Obama: ‘Stay Calm’ on Bailout Failure; McCain Camp Blames Obama

Hey, ABC! Why don’t you cover the Obama ACORN and ACORN Housing scandals? Obama says calm down and don’t point fingers because they can and should be pointed straight at him and his Dem cohorts! We’re sick and tired of the media ignoring these issues!
Google Obama and ACORN now and read all about it!

The democrats had enough votes as they have a majority and if all the democrats would have supported it, it would have passed. They are blaming the republicans, but they did not have enough of the democrats to vote on the bill. They did not need the republicans vote to pass the bill.

You simple minded people. BiPartisan means putting politics aside for the good of the nation. When the MAJORITY of the republicans in the house vote against the bill that stands out like a sore thumb. it’s your president, your vice, your Federal Reserve Chairman, your Treasury Secretary and YOur mess that you brought us all down. Give it a break for a change and think of the nation instead of your own pettiness.

thank you great leader!

We cannot save privitisation because of these self centered republicans. Stocks are plunging worldwide as we speak and China is lauging..

The Bush Administrations policy on this? Sure he wrote up the initial proposal, but you know damn well the Republicans were kept out of the furthering negotiations on this, until McCain came to Washington. Is it hard to tell the truth? Do you get hemmoroids if you do?
Pelosi’s speech is a joke as well. My God. Chiding the Republicans, when there is actual footage from 4 years ago, of Republicans warning Congress that this was coming, and the likes of Maxine Waters, and Barney Frank going BAH…there’s nothing wrong with it.
Give me a break. Pelosi has about as much sense as a cookie. She’s an idiot. Even some of her own dems voted against it. Get it? WE DON”T WANT SOCIALISM!!!!
ACORN may have been written out of it, but remember…ACORN is just the umbrella. They are over 100′s of advocacy groups, and I’m sure a few of those got written in. I’m sure Reid tried to pull a fast one, and reinsert the bans on offshore drilling as well.
Not to mention all those people buying houses, that they couldn’t afford, wanting part of the deal to have their loans paid for. Free and clear houses for all of them, while we tax payers still have to pay our mortgages, or lose our homes.
The Press is a joke anyway. They’re so in the tank for Obama, there is absolutely no hiding it. You want socialism, go have it. This is America though, and by going socialist, you go against the Constitution. So I’d advise you all to find new digs, somewhere else.

Hey Casey-Google John McCain and the Keating Five if you want to talk about scandals.

Casey:
A few conservative web sites and blogs do not make facts. Most of this ACORN talk is just talk by a few individuals who want to get popular. There is a reason why legitimate news do not want to touch this.
Go do something useful…

I believe you are right Fran, was that not part of the election issue 2 years ago that the democrats won back the majority?
I thought the majority vote wins. If the dems have been controling the House for two years why are they continuing to blame the GOP for their unforseen mistakes when they have been the ones in control?

UsedtolikeMcCain said: ACORN is a non-profit, non-partisan social justice organization with national headquarters in New York, New Orleans and Washington, D.C. To maintain independence, ACORN does not accept government funding and is not tax exempt.
Are you freakin kidding me??? Google hon. Google!!!
Here’s a start for you…….
ACORN’s history makes for pretty interesting reading. The Clinton Administration found that ACORN was misspending government grants designed to help counsel the poor. Although it seeks minimum wage increases in cities and states across the country — ACORN sued the state of California to get out of paying its own employees the state minimum wage.
and…
Just last year, in an effort to put a wage initiative on the ballot in Albuquerque, New Mexico, ACORN employee’s forged thousands of fraudulent signatures. The group is involved in initiative efforts in a half-dozen states this year. How many thousands of signatures will they forge to forward their agenda?
Source: http://www.rottenacorn.com/
Like hell they’re not partisan. They work mostly to garner votes for the Democratic party. Even if they have to make up, steal SS numbers and names, or rob headstones in a grave yard to do it.
Barack Obama was instrumental in training many of their “community organizers. ACORN is a huge partner with Fannie Mae, and Freddie Mac. All social programs, all started by Democrats.

usedtolikemcCain: ACORN receives approximately 40% of its monies from taxpayers. It is supposed to be bipartisan, but is NOT. And, it is riddled with fraud.
From NeverLikedObama.

ACORN is an organization wholly dedicated to voter fraud.
Indict them all.
If any person even thinks about asking you, the taxpayer, to “bail out” crooks, greedy, swinish bank fatcats or those equally fat, stupid, SUV driving, over-extended, gluttonous Americans, spit in their faces. It is an obscene affront that Dems and Bush would even ask for something so ridiculous and futile. If either Obama or McCain had said “screw you” to Wall ST. they would have my vote and also would have guaranteed their election. Neither Senator had the guts, wisdom or decency to say NO to swine. So much for “vision” and change. So much for mavericks. I’m voting for Ralph Nader!

After bragging today about his role in shaping the economic bailout package, Sen. John McCain has made no statement to the press since the defeat of the bill, in part at the hands of House Republicans.
McCain boarded his Straight Talk Air charter plane a few minutes ago, but the plane has not taken off yet. McCain is in the front of the plane, separated from reporters by a brown curtain
Aides to McCain have not characterized his reaction to the bills defeat. On Sunday, he said he would “swallow hard” but vote for the plan, which he said was better than originally proposed.

ACORN is a non-profit, non-partisan social justice organization with national headquarters in New York, New Orleans and Washington, D.C. To maintain independence, ACORN does not accept government funding and is not tax exempt.
Posted by: usedtolikemcCain | Sep 29, 2008 3:28:48 PM
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Correction ACORN recieves over 40% funding from govt sources, mostly govt grants. However, they are being investigated because they are taking this money under the guise of “consumer advocacy” to line their own pockets. Typical, since Obama was part of this organization. Everything he touches turns to rust.

usedtolikemcCain:
ACORN and its fraudulent voter registration activities are being investigated in several counties in Ohio and throughout the US. They are a terrible organization. Truly vile.

Haha, I remember Obama said ‘McCain deserves zero credit for the bailout.’
He thought the plan would pass.
In McCain interview on Sunday, McCain didn’t claim credit at all, he said he will let history judge it.
Obama gamble lost!

John McCain CAN take credit for the House vote being as close as it was.
Initially, only a handful of House Republicans were in favor of the bill.
Apparently McCain was able to bring some 60+ additional House members on board for the proposal.
Why weren’t the Dems able to bring their straying 40% on board?

Well can somebody please tell me why there were a lot of Dems who did not vote for this bill? They hold the majority, so if they thought it was the best thing for us why did the Dems not vote for it? Oh that is right they needed the republicans to support it because if it failed they would not be holding the bag and than they had somebody to blame for this! Obama and the Dems all the same, look for somebody to blame and not take ownership of anything unless it will be in their benefit! Go figure! Way to go our Republican Reps, dont let the lefties put this country under anymore than they already have!

Why is it the Republicans’ fault the market is falling?
If the 40% of Dems who voted against it had come on board behind their “LEADERS” it would have been a shoo-in.

A majority of the House Dems voted for the bill. A majority of the House GOP voted against the bill. Well, Senator McCain, it’s time for you to tell your fellow Republicans to put country first.

Dems did their end of the bargain. It was the GOP who did not live up to their end of the bargain.

Here comes the Republicans ‘voodoo math’ ! LOL
The large MAJORITY of Dem’s voted “YEA”,
the large MAJORITY of Repub’s voted “NAY”. The House Republicans FAILED TO PASS THIS BILL. Do the real math.
The Dem’s only took away the Repub’s chance to go home to their districts and say “I didn’t vote for it”. What a bunch of morons. If they were for the plan they should have voted for it…don’t blame the

When has it ever been the minority party’s responsibility to pass legislation?
McCain arguably took the House Reps from 0 to 60 in a few days.
Pelosi went -94 (can’t even include Obama in the mix b/c he wasn’t) in the same time, and apparently can’t count high enough.
The Dems should have known and locked in their votes – Pelosi mismanaged it – in terms of locking down 11 more Dem votes to bring it to passage, in terms of her awful “blame the Republicans for the mess we’re in” speech – and the markets are showing.

David…The Dems voted YES…the Reps voted NO….get the facts straight..

CLASSIC OBAMA,BE “PRESENT”,it will all go away ,I have no plan till my 3500 advisors and my buddy the teleprompter comes in!

Sandy B
*This is a Republican Bill
*Requested by a Republican President and members of his cabinet.
*The Democrats heeded the dire warnings of Paulson and spent the last 8 days hammering out a compromise.
In the end, the Republicans failed to support their leader and the nominee for President of their party.

ABC, better hurry and pull the story where Obama took credit for the bailout yesterday.

Obama Bush 3rd!
Democrate supported Bush more than Republican did!

Voter: “When has it ever been the minority party’s responsibility to pass legislation?”
When the legislation was proposed by an Administration run by the minority party for the past 8 years.
It’s disgusting that you’re trying to turn the Democrats refusal to ram this down the throats of the people represented by Republicans as a bad thing. Democrats respect all Americans, not just the ones who vote for Ds and do not want to force this vile medicine down their throats.

If the Dems didn’t want the “Republican Bill” as you call it, why didn’t they immediately vote and turn it down, THEN propose some other legislation in its place?
The Dems decided they would “fix” the bill, and tried to get extra slush dollars for their pet projects involved, and that is why the public went up in arms against it.

Gallup holds steady with Obama up 8.

Obama didn’t put the ACORN funding into the bill – but whoever did it – ACORN helps with low-income housing. They probably should separate that part of their work from voter registration anyway.
All the conservatives with your backs up – and all the progressives who are pissed off because you don’t run Wall Street and make all these profits have to calm down.
We have to be very careful about our analysis – that it is reasonable and not tainted by revisionist history, fantasy, or lack of vision. It is time to stop making up your mind whether someone is an idiot or not because they aren’t in your party and realize that many of us have been duped, at one time or another, into believing things that weren’t true. I was naive about both Clinton and Edwards’ affairs. Lynne Cheney thinks that James Madison came up with our Constitution and that Thomas Jefferson had nothing to do with it. Newt and Ann Coulter are busy trying to get us to spread the news that Obama is a terrorist.
Give it a rest, folks. There’s blame to go around and we need to come up with some solution that gives us a moment to figure out how to turn our consumer-society around. We are going to need innovative teachers and inspired leaders and motivated people in every community – red or blue or green or whatever.
Go to the store and get something to cook. I’ve been making soup. Keep something good in the kitchen for your fmailies and, if you don’t have something, let me know.
Have to go teach – love, Mom

In case you didn’t notice 91 DEMOCRATS Voted Against the bill….So why would Pelosi even bring the bill to the table if her own didn’t want it. The Dem’s had plenty of votes to pass it.

MCain did nothing. The measure was ready to pass before he got his small part in th the stew…

RDB: Your old news and misleading innuendos have been covered. Most people don’t care about the collection of old news and half-truths they were shown to be. If you want to rehash them, there are several hard right sites just for you. For anyone else who cares, it’s usually quickest to just hit factcheck.org or the urban legends site, snopes.com, to get the rundown of these silly things.
PS: That New Yorker cover was a parody, not a hidden-camera photo.

MAYBE OBAMA SHOULD PACK UP AND DO WHAT THE ‘GAMBLER” TOLD HIM TO DO IN THE FIRST PLACE.. COME TO WASHINGTON
THE COUNTRY IS ABOUT TO HIT CHAOS..
OBAMA DOES NOT MIND WHAT HAPPENS TO THIS COUNTRY AS LONG AS IT ADDS TO HIS MESSAIHNESS.
HE IS CLAIMING CREDIT FOR THE BAILOUT .. MCCAIN CHANGED THE MINDS OF AT LEAST 60 SENATORS..
WHAT HAS OBAMA DONE??
RIGHT ANSWER: NOTHING!!
ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK!!
THATS ALL HE KNOWS.
HE WONT TELL US WHAT IS GOOD ABOUT OBAMA .. JUST TELLS US WHAT IS BAD ABOUT PALIN AND MCCAIN.
OBAMA DOES NOTHING!
OBAMA DOES NOTHING BUT POINT FINGERS AND PROMISE EVERYBODY THE MOON.
THIS GUY WOULD BE DIRECT FROM THE FRYING PAN INTO THE FIRE.
ONLY MCCAIN CAN HANDLE SUCH A PRECARIOUS ECONOMY WITH DISCIPLINE. LEARNING FROM NISTAKE.. OBAMA WOULD BE HANDING OUT LEFT AND RIGHT..SOCIALISM

And why couldn’t Pelosi just keep her trap shut instead of repeatedly insulting the Republicans across the aisle.
The Republicans made no bones that they were not in favor of this bill for the most part. McCain at least encouraged some of them to participate and many more decided to play ball because he did.
How come Obama wasn’t in there providing leadership to “his” Party to get the deal passed? Or is he just Pelosi’s “puppet” like everyone says??

KLS…the candidates were actually asked to stay out of this( to keep it non-political) until the president requested their presence….

Jeanie, you hit the nail on the head. When will the public wise up and toss these liberals out on their butts? Obama is a fraud and we no longer have true journalists in television because they’re all in the tank for NoBama – trying to cover up and spin everything to his advantage.

jhw … Sorry you can’t understand basic logic:
the party who didn’t support the bill (Repubs) largely voted against it.
the party which claimed the high road as it own* didn’t generate the votes for it.
Which is more inconsistent? Which is more damaging?
*as in Pelosi’s tirade

Pelosi politicized the process. The Democrats had the votes, they did not use them. It was not truly bipartisan, but only had the appearance thereof. This is precisely the kind of political lack of cooperation that McCain has been addressing in the campaign. Democrats seem to forget that the lowest approval rating is NOT of George Bush, but rather the Democrat controlled House and Senate. And the Democrats want congress to control and monitor health care? You’ve GOT to be kidding. We really need McCain/Palin now. If you want to see the federal government double in size and taxes further sink our economy into a bottomless pit, then vote for the socialist Obama and foot in mouth Biden. With a clear total Democrat stranglehold on our government, look out for your wallet and be sure to keep your guns and your religion, you will surely need all of them.

This whole thing comes down to a simple question. If you think the last 8 years of republican presidential management has been good, then vote for the republican candidates for president. But if you feel as I do that the last 8 years has seen the biggest rip off of the American people in the history of this country then you would be a fool to put the republicans back in charge.
Oh you object because you say McCain/Palin are different republicans. Your right they are even more out of touch than Bush/Cheney. Palin is an extreme social conservative who is so ignorant that she believes that humans have only been on this Earth for a short time (20,000 years) and that evolution is a hoax.
You have McCain who his whole political career has been a champion of no-government oversight of financial dealings and we see what that has gotten us. He also was heavily involved in the last major financial crisis the Keating 5, Savings and Loan bail out. He is so audacious that though he chaired the committee overseeing gambling, he regularly(once a month) went to these same casinos with their lobbyist in tow and gambled. Surprise, surprise – he wins quite often when he goes!
So if you want 4 more like the last 8. Then vote for McCain/Palin

To the idiots who want to blame the Democrats for not passing this bill. There was an agreement before hand that Dem’s and Repub’s would both deliver 2/3 of their votes – thus making it a “Bi-Partisan” bill. That was the agreement. The Dem’s kept up their end – the Repub’s did not. I know you’d love for all the Dem’s to vote Yea and pass this on their own – but Nancy isn’t that stupid. They will all jump off the cliff together or no one goes.
Get your facts straight.

Maybe John will suspend the VP debate and send Palin in to get something done.Maybe a BBQ of moose burgers will set the right tone.

Go to cnn.com and read the bill, you might be glad that it failed too! Pork and earmarks, sounds like a democrat feast!How much is going to special interest? How much to A.C.O.R.N.? Do the history, this problem dates back to about 1995 and it has Barney Franks fingerprints on it!

thegoodtimes — actually, Paulson asked McCain to get involved to round up votes.
(So did Reid and Pelosi, although they later recanted when they didn’t like his method of doing so).
McCain didn’t get involved in the negotiations (right thing), he worked as a whip (right thing), pushing House Republicans to get involved (right thing) with an authorized negotiator (right thing) and work it out, bringing their issues to the table (right thing).

Obama is in bed with ACORN, Fannie and Freddie the core causes behind the current failure and Obama is saying he will save the day? What a joke.

The McCain campaign said a new statement on the failure of the bill will be released soon.
McFalin…another katrina like response

Is this ACORN the lastest Republican talking point? Gees…….give it a break…….try talking about the real cause of this: DEREGULATION.

Obama is the one who was taking premature credit for the bill passing.
Then Pelosi shot off her mouth.

So what exactly did McCain do to help this crisis last week since he “suspended” his campaign and made a fool out of himself? I know….he sat there silently and stared at the ceiling. What was McCain doing when he told Letterman he was flying to Washington during the bailout crisis? I know…he was getting his makeup done and sitting down for an interview w/K. Couric (right after the lovely and infamous interview with his running mate). Where is McCain this week after the bailout plan didn’t pass? I know…picking out which house of his Palin can “stay at” to “prep” for the debates and probably writing her a big fat check from Cindy’s pocketbook. Boy this “maverick” is working really hard for us, isn’t he?

McCain is a hypocrite! Last week he announced he was suspending his campaign(a lie) so he could ride his white horse into Washington D C to put together a package that would save our financial system. It was members of his own party (House Republicans) that voted against the McCain/Bush plan. Now, after blowing that opportunity he’s back on the campaign trial blaming Obama. Unbelievable.

John McCain when to Washington to see what the bailout bill content. He was able to talk to House of Representatives and Senators as voting for the bill , with changes. Obama wanted it as was presented. ACRON was to receive 20% of the bailout monies until some wise congress people checked out ACRON and go rid of that subsidy. Obama has a 20 year association with ACRON, and recently sent $800,000 in campaign funds under false group name to fund their voter registration practices. No one in the media will touch this fact!

Did any of you read the bill?
Of course the Dems were pushing it, because they have control (for the time being) of both houses of Congress, and each leader gets to appoint one member of the oversight board that must each be APPROVED by Congress.
If the Republicans nominated someone for the Board that Pelosi and Reid didn’t like, they would be shot down immediately. With the Democratic control of Congress, they would virtually have control of the Board.
When it came to Fannie and Freddie, the Dems saw nothing and heard nothing wrong just two or three years ago while both organizations kept donating outrageous amounts of money to Dem candidates.
The Democratic controlled Oversight Board proposed here would probably not see or hear anything either.

Hey Casey, How about the American Public really look into the keating 5 scandal and John Mccain’s military records, his habitual gambling addiction! You can find information on John Mccain’s gambling addiction on Sept 28, issue of the N.Y. Times and the Huffington Post! The truth about Obama’s birth certificate.
Summary
In June, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned image of his birth certificate to quell speculative charges that he might not be a natural-born citizen. But the image prompted more blog-based skepticism about the document’s authenticity. And recently, author Jerome Corsi, whose book attacks Obama, said in a TV interview that the birth certificate the campaign has is “fake.”
We beg to differ. FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as “supporting documents” to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.

UNBELIEVABLE!!! The majority of Dems back BUSH’S plan…because there is no other choice after Bush and his ilk screwed up the economy. and these nimrods online are blaming the Dems/Obama because all of them didnt vote for the bill when the majority of the Republicidiots voted against it? Please PLEASE explain how that makes it Obama’s fault rather than McShames? This spin I gotta hear!

Paige, you made a good point about the republicans coming up with a bill and a solution. Why didn’t the democrats come up with their own plan and their own bill to get us out of this mess. Why didn’t they lead the charge?
There is a lot of blame going around as to how all of this got started. Read this link to get a true history: http://www.dissentmagazine.org/article/?article=1229

Paige, you made a good point about the republicans coming up with a bill and a solution. Why didn’t the democrats come up with their own plan and their own bill to get us out of this mess. Why didn’t they lead the charge?
There is a lot of blame going around as to how all of this got started. Read this link to get a true history: http://www.dissentmagazine.org/article/?article=1229

The vote failed, I believe in large part because honest, hardworking tax payers are sick and tired of footing the bill for those who don’t want to work….and are now making demands, thru ACORN that they’ve been ignored in this bail out, and their plans to get their loans written off, and a free house out of the deal is gone.
There was NO plan before McCain showed up. Bush had written up a proposal, and gave it to the Dems. Dems sat in their lil cliques, rewriting and adding their pork. ACORN being a huge benefactor of this. McCain gets to D.C. and finds out that the Republicans had been completely shut out of the process. They were just supposed to twiddle their thumbs, then swallow whatever Nancy and her goons fed to them. Be good boys now, and vote YES!!!
Well somewhere along the line, not only did Republicans, and Democrats stand up for themselves, they stood up for their constiuents wishes. Overwhelmingly the people of this nation are against this proposal as it stands.
Lordy….even Bill Clinton last week blamed the Dems, and his own administration for this mess.
I’m willing to look at both sides for info, but I can tell those who only frequent left wing sites. You fail to do your homework on this.
Obama has taken large sums of campaign contributions from ACORN, Frannie Mae, and Freddie Mac. Not to mention from Goldman Sachs. Former CEO….Henry Paulson. Don’t think he isn’t going to owe them, or any of the others named in this debacle, a debt. He’s not for the middle class. He owns rich suits, walks with rich suits, and owes rich suits for where he is now!!!

So Obama gets support from ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, the nation’s largest grassroots community organization of low- and moderate-income people. This group is committed to social and economic justice. I see nothing wrong with that, and it sure is a heck of a lot better than organizations promoting oil drilling, increased military spending, or a candidate that sings “bomb, bomb Iran” on national television. You people trying to make a big thing about ACORN really need help.

STOP blaming the GOP for this, the ONLY reason the GOP didn’t vote for it was it did not protect tax payers. The GOP is looking out for Americans, especially the hard working middle class Americans. It’s the Dems who were only out to further their political goals, such as the Obama trash!
And all your accusations of “4 more years of Bush”, well, who the heck is agreeing more with Bush now?
We need a reformer, a maverick in the white house who will stand up for the tax payers, not just “call it in”. I am so sick of Obama and his sense of self-importance, when he is a huge nobody and nobody even cares what he thinks. Look at the above article, he didn’t even bother to call or lobby with any of his senate colleagues, he was too busy cramming for his stupid debate!
as always, it’s Obama first, then country. Sad and disgusting.
FIGHT for America, people!
McCain/Palin 2008

Virginia, Land of Presidents, thanks brave members of its congressional delegation who voted to kill the insipid bailout bill.
Kudos and deep thanks to Reps. Wittman, Drake, Scott, Forbes and Goode Jr.
Loud boos and sound condemnation for Reps Cantor, Moran, Boucher, Wolf and Davis III.
VA will bail out no crooks! None
Don’t even ask is to.

delaying a vote on this bill would have had a better effect on the market then its sure defeat…..the leadership responsible for bringing it up for a vote was careless to do so until the details were hammered out that would have ensured its passage….

POINTING THE FINGER IS NOT GOING TO SOLVE OUR ECONOMY CRISIS. CALL YOUR SENATORS AND TAKE A STAND. BE A GOOD CITIZEN BY PAYING YOUR BILLS ON TIME AND DO NOT PANIC AND VOTE WISELY.

THE EVIL REPUBLICANS ARE AT IT AGAIN! WAKE UP AMERICA! IT’S TIME TO TAKE OUR COUNTRY OUT OF THE HANDS OF THE DEMAGOGUES!

algwriter….if you watched the debates, the wars won’t end with Obama. He flat out said he was taking us back into Afghanistan, and possibly Pakistan…an ally! So…….

Fran, aparently you do not know that you need 2/3 of the vote to get a bill passed. So in plain english you need both sides Republican and Democrat to get a bill passed.

mccain would’ve won easily had he chosen a more moderate running mate, and obama would’ve won the minute he announced Hillary as his running mate (who is actually the best person for the job)……both undeserving candidates showed horrendous judgment in the first big decision as nominees, and both undeserving candidates acted irrationally by not using what influence they had to make sure something substantial came out of a bailout bill, which would have ensured its passage……instead, we get more distrustful of our “leaders”, and the market responds accordingly….

linda n carolina, fyi Obama, Pelosi and Reed are blaming the Republicans for not passing it. So who is now more tied to the Bush Administration? Obama or McCain. Answer: Obama.
Plus:
– Obama has sucked up to ACORN, who is in large part responsible for brow beating banks into making the bad loans.
– Obama’s two top economic advisers are on Obama’s campaign team are Raines and Johnson. Both of them got away with millions of dollars in compensation that they are using to line Obama’s campaign coffers with.
– Obama has taken more money from Fannie and Freddie than any other Senator other than Dodds.
Bottom line, all the Democrats were in favor of providing loans to high risk borrowers in an attempt to provide housing to low income and minority borrowers. When the Republicans tried to reign this in and regulate Fannie and Freddie back in 2005 the Democrats, including, Barney Franks, are on record as saying there is no problem and blocked the proposed regulation that McCain was behind. Now the chickens have come home to roost, and the Democrats, who are responsible for the problem in the first place, are attempting to place all the blame on the Republicans and McCain. I just hope the public sees the truth and votes against every Democrat who is now running, including the guy most responsible for our current financial problems, Obama.

voting wisely and for the best interests of our children, our troops and America would’ve given us Senator Clinton as the Democratic nominee and next President

I’m going to enjoy watching McCain eat his words from his campaign speech this morning when he was taking all the credit for the passage of this bill.The guy is morally bankrupt….

OBAMA CAUSED THIS CRISIS
TO HIM AND THE CONGRESSIONAL BLACK CAUCUS THIS IS JUST 1/1000TH OF
REPARATIONS
THEY PUSHED FOR THIS THEY PROFITED THEY FOSTERED IT THEY WANTED IT
OBAMA CAUSED THIS CRISIS
http://www.nypost.com/seven/09292008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/os_dangerous_pals_131216.htm
AND HE WANTED TO STEAL EVEN MORE WITH HIS $140BILLION TO ACORN

What’s wrong with you stupid Republican ? Why don’t you support your own bill? The bill put forward by your own president, and “worked on” by your own candidate. Now McCain has to suspend his campaign again to “work” on the bailout bill.

It is strange how all of the politicians are pointing fingers at everyone else, especially McCain. The American people could care less about pointing fingers, they just want resolve. Who ever is elected president will need to be prepared to step in a lot of poop and clear out the stench left by the outgoing party.

This bill won’t work because it does not help the consumer with interest rates from credit cards. There’s no regulation on credit cards, that’s why consumers are suffering and we’re in so much debt. Regulate it now! while we still have a chance then help the companies.

Ok……….EVERYONE….can we agree to write in Hillary for Pres?????????

Terry; This was President Bush’s Bill…both sides worked on it for over a week…. It was Bush’s and repubs ideology that got us into this mess so they need to own it. Don’t talk to me about Fred and Fannie and Obama without Davis/McCain.Nobody’s hands are clean. Give up with the ACORN crap…is this the trolls talking points for the week? Get a grip have you seen the stock market?

Obama tried to STEAL ACORN MONEY that’s why he hid out in FLORIDA.
ACORN IS ROTTEN rottenacorn.com
You Americans are SUCKERS
YOU WILL BE RUINED BY THIS SOCIALIST

Now thats how a real president should be not running around faking suspension of his campaign,Taking credit for something that didnt even happen mccain couldnt even rally his own party now all he can do is play the blame game and blame obama pathetic THE REPUBLICANS KILLED THE BILL YOU OLD MORON!

Obama is Kevin Bacon from Animal House telling everyone to remain calm. Biggest drop in history. When Barry Obama speaks no one listens.

The bill was fundamentally flawed to begin with. We have had enough of government not listening to us. The bail out was supposed to give some protection to those that are in trouble with their mortgages and not give away the shop to company executives. By the time the bill reached a vote, the home protection was diluted and the company executives still had their “golden parachutes”. There is not way Americans loosing everyting in their 401-k’s are going for that. I’m gald it failed. Now get back to work and protect us Americans that are struggling and forget about the “fat cats”.

Puhleeeese – the Republicans voted no because of the executive compensation limits and the oversight, and the Democrats voted no because the American public shouldn’t have to pay any more than we’ve already paid (in cash and the blood / sanity of our service people)for the failed policies of the Bush Administration. The corruption and wanton disregard of Bush, Cheney, Rove etal for middle America is beyond comprehension. Bush should be impeached.
What is also beyond all possible comprehension is the fact that there is the remotest possibility that the Republicans could get away with stealing the election again.

Obama is the most conceited SOB i have ever seen. first thing i read this morning he is taking credit for putting this thing together in the first place. now, he is blaming others that it didn’t pass? i thought he phoned it in? i thought he had it all laid out? what happened NOBlama? He tried to take complete credit for putting it to paper, why not take credit for not being able to lead his side to passage?

ABC reporters conveniently leave out the cheap shots Obama took at McCain during the same speech. Not too partisan, uh???
Poor, poor Obama. And, my goodness, he just rises above it all, doesn’t he. When does he walk on water??

The bailout is not a perfect fix, but you can see what happens in the markets when NOTHING GETS DONE! Doing something to help our credit crisis is MUCH better than doing nothing. If the average American doesn’t think that a nearly 800 point drop in the Dow doesn’t affect them, they had better take a look at their retirement accounts!

Spend-happy, ever-slutty Dems are the sole authors of this OBSCENE fiscal debaucle. How dare Dems ask ANYONE to lift a finger to bail out their corrupt lobbyist pimps? I love to see Bush and the Dems go down in flames together as they conspire unsuccessfullly to sell our poor indebted grandkids to the Chinese so swinish Dems can get a bigger SUV next year and the Wall Street lawyers can hoard their ill-gotten profits. Dems are WHORES, and ineffective whores at that. Kudos to the brave men and women from both parties who said NO to the Wall St crooks. Anybody who voted yes is useless fodder good only to be trampled under foot. Power to the people!

Yeah, Obama was on the phone.
Who exactly was he on the phone with? Anybody that would be voting today? Any of that 40% of the Dems that didn’t vote in favor?
Did he reach that long arm across the aisle from its far left berth and contact any Republican members of Congress in a bipartisan effort to get the bill passed?
Yeah, just what I thought.

This CRISIS IS DUE TO THE CONGRESSIONAL BLACK CAUCUS AND ACORN AND GUESS WHO IS BEHIND BOTH OF THEM
OBAMA!
HE SUED CITICORP TO FORCE THEM TO MAKE UNLEVERAGED LOANS
THIS IS A PERVERTED REPARATIONS
Obama is not done raping and gutting America.

REPUBLICANS ARE lYING.
REPUBLICANS DO NOT WANT TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR BRINGING THIS ECONOMICAL DISASTER IN THE USA.
THEY ARE NOT PATRIOTS. THEY BETRAY US.
A PATRIOT DOES NOT DO THIS TO OUR COUNTRY.
ENOUGH OF REPUBLICAN LIES AND MANIPULATIONS.
ENOUGH OF REPUBLICANS IN POWER.
IT’S DEMOCRATS TIME.

John McCain and his campaign staffers are liars. McCain made a big PR flap to get his face into the picture while saying nothing at the White House meeting, doing nothing to get GOP to vote for plan and he is blaming Obama….what a load of lies….he destroyed the talks and they had to ask him to leave town because he was disrupting it – now he takes credit first for getting it passed before he found out that it didn’t….lies.

This is SPECIFICALLY DUE TO THE WILL OF THE CONGRESSIONAL BLACK CAUCUS AND OBAMA
USING ACORN AGITATORS
AND LAWSUITS THAT OBAMA WORKED
THEY FORCED THIS CRISIS
FIRST they got the “give away” trillions in unleveraged loans
SECOND they got the taxpayer to pay for them
THIRD they get to socialize banking
FOURTH OBama and his cronies have taken over a hundred million in salaries and scrapings
DO NOT ATTRIBUTE THIS TO PETTY GREED THIS WAS A WELL-ORCHESTRATED MELT-DOWN
Obama was paid to NOT enforce regulations that McCain TRIED TO IMPLEMENT.

I can’t believe what I just read. Obama tries to reassure people in his speech in Colorado, to let them know that BOTH democrats and republicans need to get back to the table and get this worked out. McCain’s camp has the audacity to say the bill failed because of Obama and the democrats. Once again McCain shows his true colors of putting HIMSELF first and not our country!

If you believe there is a bona fide financial crisis afoot, you are an idiot.
Let the trembling market fall into hell with all its over-extended gluttons in tow. Anyone in over their head is a stupid fool who deserves to sink like a stone. In fact, if you are over-extended, you owe it to us all to sink. Don’t ask us to rescue you, pigs. SINK! SINK! Every bank that dies or gets gobbled because it got greedy or made bad loans to non-creditworthy persons should likewise sink. Every American who dared to overspend in this kind of economy also deserves to sink. Don’t ask for my sympathy, ceredit gluttons. You are entitled only to my deepest contempt. How dare you saddle my grandchildren with your swinish bad debt? Enough of this reckless gluttony. Fools behold the market and shudder but the wise behold the market and see payback, justice, karma. Also,if I learn that Boy WonderBama has even thought about repressing free speech in my country, there will be holy hell to pay. Count on it.

OBAMA is capitalizing on voter perception that economy is a mess and Bush-McCain is to blame.
Ever since he entered politics, he never won because the voters liked him but because of some sinister things or events that had affected his opponents. Now this.
In the coming days, the truth will be out to show what kind of character Obama really is. HE WILL BE UNMASKED.

Why are repubs in these comments screaming about ACORN getting funds from it, when they clearly are not? Why are they screaming “Carter Did it”?
Why are they ranting that Dems control the nation and congress with a 51-49 majority?
Why are they ranting about Dems being at fault when 6 of the last 8 years they held the White House, Senate and House of reps?
Grow up people… there isn’t always a scapegoat to sacrifice when you’ve screwed up. Its OUR fault for electing them and not holding them accountable. Its our fault for not firing them all in 2004 and replacing them.
Either vote the bums out, or take your medicine like a child and quit crying.

HELLO ABC NEWS,MY NAME IS YOLANDA AND I LIVE IN STOCKTON CALIFORNIA.WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ABOUT IS SARAH PALIN;I THINK SHE’S A PHONY,SHE’S OBSCURE WHEN IT COMES TO THE ISSUE’S WHEN ASKED BY THE PRESS,SHE IS VERY ANTI-SOCIAL WHEN IT COMES TO THE PRESS.TO ME SARAH PALIN ACTS LIKE A HERMIT I WANDER HOW MANY DAYLIGHT HOURS DID SHE GOVERN IN ALASKA.SARAH PALIN ALSO BECOMES ON THE OFFENSIVE WHEN ASKED HARD SERIOUS QUESTIONS FROM THE PRESS SUCH AS THE ECONOMY,FOREIGN KNOWLEDGE,OIL,GLOBAL WARMING,HEALTHCARE ETC.ALSO I DON’T UNDERSTAND HOW SHE COULD SAY SHE IS FOR LIFE WHEN SHE KILLS ANIMALS THEY ARE PART OF GOD’S CREATION AS WELL.THIS WOMAN IS ECCENTRIC IN A BAD WAY AND VERY DANGEROUS.SARAH PALIN IS IMPULSIVE IN HER JUDGEMENTS CONCERNING THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA YOU HAVE TO BE PUDENT TO RUN THIS COUNTRY.WE ALREADY HAVE A DUMB PRESIDENT.WE CAN’T AFFORD DUMBER AND DUMBEREST.

mon bracelet est plus grand que le vôtre, you must be misinformed, as the Republican had control of The House, the Senate and The White House for 6 years. 6 Years and what have they done, mmmmm Big Oil is making huge profits like in the Billions since Republican control, the Big Corporations have been getting big Tax Breaks for moving Jobs over seas. Food prices are up because Gas prices are up, but yet Big Oil with their Big Profits still get those big tax breaks. The Rich get those nice tax loop holes that are never closed.
How can the regular person get by when everything is geared to the 250,000.00 and up per year income. But it is just like the Republican to live in the past, they can not take responsibility for thier failures, it is always someone else fault it happened under thier watch. Maybe they need more bathroom breaks in airports, they need that little activity to get thier minds clear. But stay away from the 18 and younger as you get found out quicker with the young.

JC -
As best I can tell -
233 Dems, 202 Reps.
233 > 202.
Dems in majority.

Our House of Representatives listened to over 200 of America’s top economists and smart people of this country. They did what was right not what was fast and convenient and prosperous to the very rich. The fact that the House of Representatives rejected the bail out is awesome! Here is why. The bill was a just a band-aid that still benefitted the very rich and not the people. It was not a solution to the cause of the problem. This bill would only have postponed the inevitable to just after the next President is sworn in on Jan. 29, 2009. There are real solutions to the cause of the problems of the credit crises not even considered in this terrible fast paced 700 Billion dollar extortion bail out bill for the extremely rich people of this country and around the world.
In January 2009 the 7 trillion dollars in bad mortgage loans that the banks have reported will still be unpaid. Who knows how many trillion dollars of bad mortgage debt have not been reported by the banks. 700 billion dollars won’t even come close to paying for all of this debt. Financial melt down is inevitable. Let it happen now so true recovery can begin. Bush and his Cronies did their best to ram this 770 billion dollar pay off to the rich for making this mess down our throats.
Here is some interesting info. Bush and Chaney have recently purchased homes in foreign counties to for a speedy get away to live in after their terms are over in Jan. 2009. They didn’t want this economy to blow up on them while they were still in office. They didn’t want the blame for their very real immoral, unethical and most likely illegal actions. Yeah they got both.
One last fleecing of the American people was halted by our smart members of the House of Representatives who listened to the people and over 200 of America’s top economists. We can truly thank them for listening to us.
It’s time for the people to march on Washington DC peacefully in protest if they attempt to pass this fraudulent bill again. “The only thing to fear is fear itself.” (President Franklin D. Roosevelt Democrat) Make the members of the House of Representatives and the members of the Senate know they were hired by all of us who voted for them not just a few very rich people. Make them know we are their bosses not a few rich families. We the People: Demand REAL SOLUTIONS FOR ALL PEOPLE not for just a very few extremely rich people!

Ha – this is kind of like the McCain camp accidentally releasing their add that McCain won the debate Friday morning before he admitted he would show up. Either way McCain had an attack planned on Obama. Tell me who’s playing politics?
The that acts like a statesmen and reminds people to stay calm? or the jerk whose flailing in the breeze trying to figure out which way to spin the story to help him.
The problem is the country has been force fed too much deregulation and tax breaks for the wealthy/corporations by the republicans.
It’s time to invest in American citizens on main street – our homes, our kids, our health care, our water and electric companies…. instead of your investment banker and defense contractor buddies.
It seems republicans are trying to abdicate any responsibility for the government.

Dems are doing what they always do, blame someone else.

susan, lol you are to funny, I can even read and both sides are blaming each other like they always do. So the Democrat do not have the market cornered on this one. Both Republicans and Democrats play the Blame game. So keep those jokes coming I really need the laugh.

Unfortunitely, the Dems have people like Barney Frank talking for them. This man should be jailed for his part in the failure of Fannie/Freddie. Pelosi gets up there and spins the lies again and again. She knows full well that Frank & Dodd should be jailed, that they both lied over and over again saying “Freddie/Fannie” are sound when they knew they were in bad shape. THEY ARE ALL DISHONEST CRIMINALS!

ALSO SARAH PALIN REPRESENTS HERSELF LIKE A HARLOT FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!SHE NEEDS TO DRESS A LITTLE BIT MORE MODEST TO BE A CHRISTIAN LADY SUCH AS ABIGAIL ADAMS. (READ THE BOOK), ABIGAIL ADAMS IF SHE WERE RUNNING IN THIS TIME SHE WOULD WIN AND BECOME FIRST WOMAN PRESIDENT BECAUSE SHE HELPED A LOT OF PEOPLE.

UNBELIEVABLE!!! The majority of Dems back BUSH’S plan…because there is no other choice after Bush and his ilk screwed up the economy. and these nimrods online are blaming the Dems/Obama because all of them didnt vote for the bill when the majority of the Republicidiots voted against it? Please PLEASE explain how that makes it Obama’s fault rather than McShames? This spin I gotta hear!

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I bet women every where are so happy how McCain and his people have taken women back years before a woman could vote or how abused women are treated. You do not say anything unless I tell you to. You do not go anywhere with out my Knowledge. You check with me before you do anything. If McCain had no confidence in Palin why pick her? Just for the Women’s vote?

Umm let’s see…a Rep. President that screwed up so bad that if he has a good idea, his own party wont support him, because he is toxic and you are complaining that all Dems didn’t vote for the bailout? Morons…it should be all Reps and the Dems as filler. This is nuts. Like it or not, we will need a bailout and we as tax payers are going to fricking pay. The alternative are not any better, so take the poison pill now and hope things get on track faster or wait for everything to crash and burn and start from square one. I don’t know about you, but my 401k can’t take it.

McCain asked the Republicans to vote for it. They didn’t. It’s because the Republicans would rather “see what happens” without the rescue plan. Ask: who benefits if the economy slows down? The Republicans are insulated from the downturn because of their wealth and connections. In good times, the Republicans rake in the billions. In bad times, they also rake in the billions (by buying new assets more cheaply). There is NO incentive for them to vote for the rescue package.

From the Double Talk Express:
” The U.S. economy is in essentially very good shape.’ -John McCain, Sept. 9, 2008
‘The U.S. economy is in the worst shape since the Great Depression. Possibly worse. We’ve known we were headed toward this waterfall for quite some time.’ -John McCain, Sept. 18, 2008. “

I get sick of hearing people say these loans were given to the people who couldn’t afford them or didn’t deserve them. This mess is because of greed and deregulation.
If there were rules to stop this crap this wouldn’t have happened, plan and simple. These people could pay the mortgage before the rates started increasing, what idiot decided that someone who wasn’t responsible enough for a 30 year fixed mortgage was responsible enough for an adjustable rate one????
True some used it to get into bigger homes. But the banker and lender (who I might add are suppose to be the experts) sit there and talked them into a bigger and better loan. Not because it was good for the prospective home owner, but because it was better for them. These so called “bad homeowners” would have never faulted on their loans had they been given a standard 30 year fixed loan. They might be like the rest of us at the moment and have to decide between going out to eat and taking the kids skating or paying the mortgage, but I’m sick of people trying to blame the homeowner on this one.
Humans are greedy…the more at stake the greedier they get.

ubu1991, just to inlighten you….
One of the giant mortgage companies at the heart of the credit crisis paid $15,000 a month to a firm owned by Senator John McCain’s campaign manager from the end of 2005 through last month, according to two people with direct knowledge of the arrangement. The disclosure contradicts a statement Sunday night by Mr. McCain that the campaign manager, Rick Davis, had no involvement with the company for the last several years. Mr. Davis’s firm received the payments from the company, Freddie Mac, until it was taken over by the government this month along with Fannie Mae, the other big mortgage lender whose deteriorating finances helped precipitate the cascading problems on Wall Street, the people said Freddie Mac had previously paid an advocacy group run by Davis, called the Homeownership Alliance, $30,000 a month until the end 2005, when that group was dissolved. That relationship was the subject of a New York Times story Monday, which drew angry denunciations from the McCain campaign. McCain and his aides have vehemently objected to suggestions that Davis has ties to Freddie Mac-an especially sensitive issue given that the Republican presidential candidate has blamed “the lobbyists, politicians and bureaucrats” for the mortgage crisis that recently prompted the Bush administration to take over both Freddie Mac and its companion, Fannie Mae, and put it under federal conservatorship. But neither the Times story — nor the McCain campaign — revealed that Davis’s firm, the Washington, D.C. based lobbying firm Davis Manafort, continued to receive $15,000 a month from Freddie Mac until last month-long after the Homeownership Alliance had been terminated. The two sources, who requested anonymity discussing sensitive information, told Newsweek that Davis himself approached Freddie Mac in 2006 and asked for a new consulting arrangement that would allow his firm to continue to be paid. The arrangement was approved by Hollis McLoughlin, Freddie Mac’s vice president for external relations, because “he [Davis] was John McCain’s campaign manager and it was felt you couldn’t say no,” said one of the sources. When Mr. Boortz noted approvingly that Mr. McCain had co-sponsored a Senate bill to mandate new regulations, Mr. McCain said, “I remember it very well.”
But a Freddie Mac official said Mr. McCain “never took on the role that some other Republicans did” to try to limit the companies. He named instead Senators Chuck Hagel of Nebraska, John Sununu of New Hampshire and Elizabeth Dole of North Carolina, all of whom were on the banking committee during recent years. “I remember working against a number of amendments and they were always introduced by Hagel and Sununu. John McCain was never anywhere to be found.”
A check of the records for the legislation that Mr. Boortz mentioned shows that Senator Hagel was the original sponsor on Jan. 26, 2005, and Senators Sununu and Dole were co-sponsors then. Mr. McCain did not sign on as a co-sponsor for more than a year, on May 25, 2006.

krista
Bush is a lame duck. Ever heard of that? Since he is so hated by the Democrats, why did they immediately jump on to this bailout?

Voter: “the party who didn’t support the bill (Repubs) largely voted against it.”
The leader of the Republican party (still) is President Bush. He supported the bill. The Senate Republican leader supported the bill. The House Republican leader supported the bill. The Republican presidential candidate supported the bill. This is all on the record and the quotes are still on the front page.
But in the Republican cult I suppose what Republicans mean isn’t really what they say, eh? Actually, that would explain an awful lot of McCain’s “honorable” campaigning…

McCain was quoted in support of the Bailout, “to fight for the rescue plan that puts you and your families and working Americans first.”
I read a good part of the summarized compromised Bailout. After all the vague wording and so call compromise I failed to see where the bill put families and the working American first. It all appears to continue to protect the Institutions and Elite that created this mess.

The initial goal of this bill was for it to be passed in a bi-partisan way. That means that at least 50% republicans vote for it and 50% democrats vote for it. That was that deal and both sides got together and decided what terms were necessary for them all to vote for it. Democrats held up their end of the bargain with more that 50% of their votes and the Republicans let politics their egos get in the way.

It was McCain who got over 60 of the Republicans to sign on to the bill. It was Pelosi who failed to unite her party and had to denigrate Bush and the Republicans to make her party look clean. All of the Democrats who helped write this bill, Dodd, Frank, Schumer, all had their finger in the Fannie Mae pie.
Obama does too, but he had nothing to do with the bailout, even though he took credit for it.
Republicans were against it because it smacks of socialism.
The Democrats did not need the Republican vote since they have the majority in the Senate. It was Pelosi’s job to unite Democrats and Republicans on this deal. She failed. She failed to unite her party too because the vote was split half and half between Dem and Republicans. If more Democrats had voted it would have passed.

What’s the deal? There is no plan till they come up with something that the majority will support. They haven’t yet. So all this noise is just politics. Intially, I bought into the urgency of this concern, now after watching the foolish wrangling of the parties I feel differently. Obviously this isn’t so important or surely they would stop wasting time and come up with a real plan. Surely they would not allow the world economy to crash while they play politics?
Everyone needs to get to the table and work until they find something that they can agree on and that means that neither party comes out on top. They end up side-by-side. Have they never heard of common ground and win-win! Simple concepts that certainly could move this along. But then, what’s the hurry…this is just politics…right?

That B!tch Pelosi has the nerve to tell the Republicans to stay away from the table during negotiations, then when the bailout fails she blames the Republicans and says it was unpatriotic of them not to show up. She wanted the Republicans to stay away so if the bailout passed the Democrats could take all the credit.
She is the WORST speaker of the house in history. What’s her approval rating now 5%? And that’s just family members.

If the economy was the most important thing to these Republicans that voted against the bill, there would have been nothing that Nancy Pelosi could have said to get them to reject it.
Think about it if your loving father (Bush) held out a rope to save you from falling and some woman (Pelosi) just said that your father was a jerk, you wuold still take the rope to save your life.
They just didn’t like the bailout plan, plain and simple. Why don’t they stop lying and trying to pass the buck to Democrats.

2005- Chuck Hagel, Elizabeth Dole and John Mccain proposed more oversight of Fannie Mae and Chris Dodd blocked it.
Chris Dodd, Barney Frank (with his lover who was employed by Fannie Mae), Chuck Schumer, and now we know Obama all benefited from the huge donations from Fannie Mae.

Bravo McCain supporters! If you are willing to gamble your future with McCSam, I am not. Don’t drag me into the water please!!!

McCain has a pea brain. Doesn’t he know people are not as dumb as he is? He blames Obama for everything like people are just going to believe it. It was Obama’s fault the bill didn’t pass, it was Obama’s fault for the storms, it was Obama’s fault for the Iraq war, it was Obama’s fault for my hair turning white, it was Obama’s fault for me leaving my first wife, the list goes on and on. Can this man just make a statement like a real statesman without blaming somebody else for everything? Here’s a hint…watch Obama.

I believe that Obama and the rest of the capital will come up with a better plan than was initiated by the Bush, pushed through by McCain and Vetoed by their own party the good Ole GOP! Good work McSHAME

jake – the bill didn’t pass because it is a scam, and fortunately, the majority of the House (democrats and republicans) realized it. This bill will not save us from a recession – it is an unnecessary measure that will bankrupt this country.

All I know is I’m tired of my vote not counting. I refuse to be part of the re-election of people like Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, in particular – and Republicans, as well – who put their party before their country. ENOUGH ALREADY!
Posted by: Traci
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Are you sure your on the right blog?
Your making too much sense there.
They can’t handle That!

This is what happened folks…the PEOPLE spoke, and their representatives listened! 51% of the people DID NOT want this bailout to happen, PERIOD!!! They let their representatives know, and those that remembered why there were in DC in the first place, voted against the bailout. Those who didn’t care what the people wanted, voted for it!
Posted by: LINDA
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B I N G O ! ! ! You win the prize.

Say no to bailouts! Loan them the money and charge them interest! These greedy ruthless corrupt Wall St. instituions get no free lunch! Theycaused this collapse and now want out money – screw them!
Monday, September 29th, 2008
The Rich Are Staging a Coup This Morning …a message from Michael Moore
Friends,
Let me cut to the chase. The biggest robbery in the history of this country is taking place as you read this. Though no guns are being used, 300 million hostages are being taken. Make no mistake about it: After stealing a half trillion dollars to line the pockets of their war-profiteering backers for the past five years, after lining the pockets of their fellow oilmen to the tune of over a hundred billion dollars in just the last two years, Bush and his cronies — who must soon vacate the White House — are looting the U.S. Treasury of every dollar they can grab. They are swiping as much of the silverware as they can on their way out the door.
No matter what they say, no matter how many scare words they use, they are up to their old tricks of creating fear and confusion in order to make and keep themselves and the upper one percent filthy rich. Just read the first four paragraphs of the lead story in last Monday’s New York Times and you can see what the real deal is:
“Even as policy makers worked on details of a $700 billion bailout of the financial industry, Wall Street began looking for ways to profit from it.
“Financial firms were lobbying to have all manner of troubled investments covered, not just those related to mortgages.
“At the same time, investment firms were jockeying to oversee all the assets that Treasury plans to take off the books of financial institutions, a role that could earn them hundreds of millions of dollars a year in fees.
“Nobody wants to be left out of Treasury’s proposal to buy up bad assets of financial institutions.”
Unbelievable. Wall Street and its backers created this mess and now they are going to clean up like bandits. Even Rudy Giuliani is lobbying for his firm to be hired (and paid) to “consult” in the bailout.
The problem is, nobody truly knows what this “collapse” is all about. Even Treasury Secretary Paulson admitted he doesn’t know the exact amount that is needed (he just picked the $700 billion number out of his head!). The head of the congressional budget office said he can’t figure it out nor can he explain it to anyone.
And yet, they are screeching about how the end is near! Panic! Recession! The Great Depression! Y2K! Bird flu! Killer bees! We must pass the bailout bill today!! The sky is falling! The sky is falling!
Falling for whom? NOTHING in this “bailout” package will lower the price of the gas you have to put in your car to get to work. NOTHING in this bill will protect you from losing your home. NOTHING in this bill will give you health insurance.
Health insurance? Mike, why are you bringing this up? What’s this got to do with the Wall Street collapse?
It has everything to do with it. This so-called “collapse” was triggered by the massive defaulting and foreclosures going on with people’s home mortgages. Do you know why so many Americans are losing their homes? To hear the Republicans describe it, it’s because too many working class idiots were given mortgages that they really couldn’t afford. Here’s the truth: The number one cause of people declaring bankruptcy is because of medical bills. Let me state this simply: If we had had universal health coverage, this mortgage “crisis” may never have happened.
This bailout’s mission is to protect the obscene amount of wealth that has been accumulated in the last eight years. It’s to protect the top shareholders who own and control corporate America. It’s to make sure their yachts and mansions and “way of life” go uninterrupted while the rest of America suffers and struggles to pay the bills. Let the rich suffer for once. Let them pay for the bailout. We are spending 400 million dollars a day on the war in Iraq. Let them end the war immediately and save us all another half-trillion dollars!
I have to stop writing this and you have to stop reading it. They are staging a financial coup this morning in our country. They are hoping Congress will act fast before they stop to think, before we have a chance to stop them ourselves. So stop reading this and do something — NOW! Here’s what you can do immediately:
1. Call or e-mail Senator Obama. Tell him he does not need to be sitting there trying to help prop up Bush and Cheney and the mess they’ve made. Tell him we know he has the smarts to slow this thing down and figure out what’s the best route to take. Tell him the rich have to pay for whatever help is offered. Use the leverage we have now to insist on a moratorium on home foreclosures, to insist on a move to universal health coverage, and tell him that we the people need to be in charge of the economic decisions that affect our lives, not the barons of Wall Street.
2. Take to the streets. Participate in one of the hundreds of quickly-called demonstrations that are taking place all over the country (especially those near Wall Street and DC).
3. Call your Representative in Congress and your Senators. (click here to find their phone numbers). Tell them what you told Senator Obama.
When you screw up in life, there is hell to pay. Each and every one of you reading this knows that basic lesson and has paid the consequences of your actions at some point. In this great democracy, we cannot let there be one set of rules for the vast majority of hard-working citizens, and another set of rules for the elite, who, when they screw up, are handed one more gift on a silver platter. No more! Not again!
Yours,
Michael Moore
MMFlint@aol.com
MichaelMoore.com
P.S. Having read further the details of this bailout bill, you need to know you are being lied to. They talk about how they will prevent golden parachutes. It says NOTHING about what these executives and fat cats will make in SALARY. According to Rep. Brad Sherman of California, these top managers will continue to receive million-dollar-a-month paychecks under this new bill. There is no direct ownership given to the American people for the money being handed over. Foreign banks and investors will be allowed to receive billion-dollar handouts. A large chunk of this $700 billion is going to be given directly to Chinese and Middle Eastern banks. There is NO guarantee of ever seeing that money again.
P.P.S. From talking to people I know in DC, they say the reason so many Dems are behind this is because Wall Street this weekend put a gun to their heads and said either turn over the $700 billion or the first thing we’ll start blowing up are the pension funds and 401(k)s of your middle class constituents. The Dems are scared they may make good on their threat. But this is not the time to back down or act like the typical Democrat we have witnessed for the last eight years. The Dems handed a stolen election over to Bush. The Dems gave Bush the votes he needed to invade a sovereign country. Once they took over Congress in 2007, they refused to pull the plug on the war. And now they have been cowered into being accomplices in the crime of the century. You have to call them now and say “NO!” If we let them do this, just imagine how hard it will be to get anything good done when President Obama is in the White House. THESE DEMOCRATS ARE ONLY AS STRONG AS THE BACKBONE WE GIVE THEM. CALL CONGRESS NOW.
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The dem idiots who pushed to lower lending standards are the reason for this mess….people with bad credit, should not be given bad loans that harm tax payers.

The Banks of the United States have reported 7 Trillion Dollars in bad mortgage debt. Let me ask all you geniuses out there what good is it going to do to have the tax payers buy 700 Billion Dollars of this 7 Trillion Dollar debt. Who knows how much more debt the banks and financial institutions have not been reported. Spending this 700 Billion Dollars on this debt is like throwing kerosene, dynamite and gasoline on a wild fire storm. It only makes the fire hotter and more dangerous and destroys those who fueled the fire just like giving the extremely rich this 700 billion dollars. The tax payers debt, the nation debt will just go up and prolong the tax payers suffering, starving, and wreak havoc on their physical, mental and financial health.

Why don’t they get the money back from these greedy CEO’s to pay for part of it.They created this mess.
Example :
One CEO got a severance package of 66 million dollars. Nobody is worth that amount of money.

If NOBama takes over we can look forward to mirroring cities like Detroit, Philly, Camden,Newark,Trenton,St. Louis. They are run by similar people and all are in the tank. Poverty,uneducated,welfare and murder is high. Give to the poor so they can ruin and run down everthing they get, then tax and give them more.
Posted by: Gomac | Sep 29, 2008 6:28:02 PM
The reason they are poor are because of Republicans like GWB and his cronies. That man in 8 years has destroyed this country.

Well I understand that they said McCain was directly responsible for approximately 60 of the “Ay” votes from the Republican members of the House today.
So, let me see, I believe that makes, oh yes, 60 more votes than Obama managed to bring in from his colleagues.

Obama needs to come clean with the American people, we’re not stupid, we all know he was one of the top two senators who got the most money from Fannie and Freddie. He needs to acknowledge his involvement. That is why he is keeping his distance from the financial crisis. He keeps trying to blame the republicans, but at this point that really doesn’t make any sense unless you’ve been hiding under a rock the last couple of weeks. It is all out in the open now about his involvement and the fact that he voted “NO” to the regulation of Freddie and Fannie in 2006, which would have headed off this crisis. He is not doing anything to help.

MCCAIN, THE LIAR AND BITTER, IGNORANT
MAN & HIS COMMERCIALS OF LIES !!!!
HE COULDN’T TELL THE TRUTH IF TRIPPED OVER IT.
McCain voted against the Webb amendment calling for adequate troop rest between deployments.
McCain voted against an amendment that would provide $20 million to the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) for health care facilities.
McCain was one of only 13 Senators to vote against $430,000,000 for the Department of Veteran Affairs for Medical Services for outpatient care and treatment for veterans.
McCain voted against increasing Veterans medical services funding by $1.5 billion in FY 2007 to be paid for by closing corporate tax loopholes.
McCain once again voted for abusive tax loopholes over veterans when he voted against creating a reserve fund to allow for an increase in Veterans”” medical care by $1.8 billion by eliminating abusive tax loopholes.
McCain voted to table an amendment by Senator Dodd that called for an additional $322,000,000 for safety equipment for United States forces in Iraq and to reduce the amount provided for reconstruction in Iraq by $322,000,000.
McCain urged other Senate members to table a vote (which never passed) to provide more than $1 billion for National Guard and Reserve equipment in Iraq related to a shortage of helmets, tents, bullet-proof inserts, and tactical vests.
McCain voted against increasing the amount available for medical care for veterans by $650,000,000.

BEYOND EMBASSING, MCCAIN IS PATHETIC !!!
First The Savings and Loan and Now Wall Street. No Maverick. Corrupt McCain.
From the Wikipedia. Unlike McCain’s Lies, This is The Truth. Same McCain, Different Failure. Our Country cannot afford McCain/Palin.
The Keating Five were five United States Senators accused of corruption in 1989, igniting a major political scandal as part of the larger Savings and Loan crisis of the late 1980s and early 1990s. The five senators, Alan Cranston (D-CA), Dennis DeConcini (D-AZ), John Glenn (D-OH), John McCain (R-AZ), and Donald W. Riegle (D-MI), were accused of improperly aiding Charles H. Keating, Jr., chairman of the failed Lincoln Savings and Loan Association, which was the target of an investigation by the Federal Home Loan Bank Board (FHLBB).
The core allegation of the Keating Five affair is that Keating had made contributions of about $1.3 million to various U.S. Senators, and he called on those Senators to help him resist regulators. The regulators backed off, to later disastrous consequences.

Woman for Truth…..so what you are saying is that McCain is fiscally responsible and wouldn’t vote yes on all of the democratic spending bills. Thank you, I rest my case. We need him now more than ever.

McCain, never states what his plans are or what programs he will cut. I am so tired of him blaming Obama and the democrates for this mess. McCain please tell the American middle class about YOUR plans and YOUR solutions to this economic MESS. You can start out by saying: “I am going to:” or I intend to: point 1, point 2 ect….

BEYOND EMBASSING, MCCAIN IS PATHETIC !!!
First The Savings and Loan and Now Wall Street. No Maverick. Corrupt McCain.
From the Wikipedia. Unlike McCain’s Lies, This is The Truth. Same McCain, Different Failure. Our Country cannot afford McCain/Palin.
McCain and Keating had become personal friends following their initial contacts in 1981,[10] and McCain was the closest socially to Keating of the five senators.[21] Like DeConcini, McCain considered Keating a constituent as he lived in Arizona.[18] Between 1982 and 1987, McCain had received $112,000 in political contributions from Keating and his associates.[22] In addition, McCain’s wife Cindy McCain and her father Jim Hensley had invested $359,100 in a Keating shopping center in April 1986, a year before McCain met with the regulators. McCain, his family, and their baby-sitter had made nine trips at Keating’s expense, sometimes aboard Keating’s jet. Three of the trips were made during vacations to Keating’s opulent Bahamas retreat at Cat Cay. McCain did not pay Keating (in the amount of $13,433) for some of the trips until years after they were taken, when he learned that Keating was in trouble over Lincoln.[6][23]
Just as the Savings and Loan Failed, so now does Wall Street and the Mortgage and Banking Institutions. McCain can’t try and blame Obama for the 1989 problem. He has been responsible for so much failure in this economy. Treating Wall Street Like they did the Savings and Loan.

Casey – because nobody serious actually gives a crap about those phony “scandals” that you wingnuts seem to find so compelling.

Republicans just destroyed Capitalism in America. Heckuva job, GOP!

The only way Barak Obama can save face at this point is if he tells the truth and stops blaming the other side, and starts helping to clean up the mess he helped create. I have lost all respect for the man. Way too many lies.
Posted by: Brenda | Sep 29, 2008 6:59:10 PM
Obama is not the one to blame. There are more players in this mess than you could probably name.(I am sure Georgie and Dickie boy have a hand in it somewhere).
Somebody took their eye off the ball and now you and I will end up suffering because of it.

Meet Barney Frank, One of the Architects of Fannie Mae’s Collapse
“These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis,” said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. “The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.”
- Barney Frank, September 2003
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E06E3D6123BF932A2575AC0A9659C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=2

Um, lightseeker? Back in 2003 Fannie and Freddie WEREN’T facing any financial crisis. Get a grip, nutcase. Duh.

REPUBLICANS ARE THE IDIOTS WHO GOT US INTO THIS MESS WITH DEREGULATION.. WITH DEREGULATION CAME CORPORATE GREED.. NEED I SAY MORE..

Everybody knows that the GOP’s deregulatory philosophy caused this mess and now they’re too stubborn to take responsibility and fix the problems they caused. This is the end of the Reagan Republicans and the party of Nixon. The GOP as we know it are doomed.

RICK DAVIS, MCCAIN’S AIDE, WAS GETTING HIS POCKETS LINED TO THE TUNE OF $15,000 A MONTH FROM FREDDIE MAC.. SHOWS MCCAINS KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT THE PEOPLE HE HIRES.. THAT’S PUTTING COUNTRY FIRST ALRIGHT..

I think that most everyone here that is trying to blame the democrats for not getting this passed based on the fact that they have the majority, need to go back and pay attention to highschool economics. You need a simple majority (218 out of 435) in order to just send the bill to the House. You NEED 2/3 of the vote to actually pass a bill. So by saying that since the democrats have the majority then they should have been passing bills to stop this all along is some of the most ignorant banter I have ever heard! The failure here is not that the bill failed. The failure is that all people on both sides of the aisle failed to come together and work this out in the best interest of the country. Plain and simple. I consider myself a democrat and often I am embarassed by some of the things that my representatives do BUT this is not a time for the blame game. We as Americans are not owed anything. Part of what sets us apart from the rest of the world is that if you want something or need information, then you go out and get it yourself. Without educating ourselves, then how can we expect our elected officials to do the job we need them to do. I’m sick of being led by people who win popularity contests based upon how much more money they have in order to have a successful compaign. The bottomline is that WE THE PEOPLE need to empower ourselves and DEMAND better leadership! These are dark days ahead of us folks. Something needs to be done and blaming each other for not getting things done only accomplishes more of the same——NOTHING!

I don’t understand something that perhaps someone can explain to me please (not said rhetorically, but honestly I do not get this). Why is it that when the dow went down the most in history for a single day, that when you look at the foreign currency exchange rates the dollar STRENGTHENED globally. The value of the dollar went up all around the world. Why is that?
In any case, it seems like this “economic collapse” of Wall Street is somehow good for the value of our dollar, which is really strange. Any economists out there who could explain how that’s possible?

Gosh, I admire Barack Obama. While John McCain is going off in every direction and just plain “going off,” Obama stays calm and tries to be a clear headed leader. Couple that with Sarah Palin for vp (imagine her dealing with a massive issue like this!), and to me, the choice seems clear.

jwc ..well said, i applaud you..but, most of the idiot liberals posting here will not understand how close to home you point is..it is too well written and does not trash anyone…good for you …

dvine…slow down a little..do you thin anyone is actually going to read the war and peace you just wrote?… i don’t have until xmas..the election is in Nov.

McCain and Palin are Clowns! What IDIOTS!Posted by: dvine
you make this way too much fun..it takes one to know one !!!

While you are all arguing over whose fault it is, there are serious things taking place in this country regarding this situation that is beyond partisanship. I wish people would realize that.

I believe the Republican party should be re-named the RAPE-publicans, because that is what this party has done to this country for the past almost 8 years. They have raped our treasury and put us in debt in the trillions of dollars, raped our soldiers by putting them in an illegal war, forcing them to go back again and again and then taking away their benefits when they return, raped our children by stealing from the school coffers to line their own pockets and denying them health care coverage, raped our environment by repealing laws that protected our land and sea, now they are raping us with this whole wall street debacle, which was brought about by republican deregulation which McCain had a firm hand in. Did you notice that our economy has TANKED under RAPE-publican rule? Do you like paying almost 4 bucks a gallon for gas? Do you enjoy paying more for groceries and everything else? Did you notice that since Bush got into office we are in a constant state of worry, uncertainty and fear? Is that what you want MORE of? I don’t. No, I really don’t understand why anyone votes RAPE-publican. I don’t understand all you regular middle class republicans, what do expect to gain for voting 4 more years of RAPE-publican rule? They don’t care about you at all. They only care about the few VERY WEALTHY. They protect the wealthy and screw the middle class to the wall. You are not invited to their party, you are all outsiders with your noses pressed to the window watching them frolic in their money, (which used to be YOUR money, by the way). OK, you refuse to admit you were wrong and brought calamity upon the nation for voting for Bush twice. Don’t be so wrong-headed and vote republican again. McCain will not save your party and give you the REDEMPTION you are so desperately seeking. He will bring along all the SAME Bush Cronies along with him. If you don’t want to vote Obama, then vote for anyone else. Just admit the RAPE-publicans will only give you and this nation more of the SAME. Tell them we have all had ENOUGH of this disastrous administration and all of their calamitous policies and we are NOT going to take it anymore! Enough RAPE-publican rule!

ANOTHER BIG ANTI-PALIN RALLY IN ALASKA THIS SATURDAY!!!
There was another big anti-Palin, anti-troopergate rally in Alaska this weekend. They say it was even bigger than the last one!!
After all that has happened, Alaskan’s can’t stand her either!
Lot of pictures and I just loved the homemade signs! “No more lies Palinoccio” and “Palin Humiliating Alaska” and lots more!!
She is even a BIG JOKE in her own state of Alaska! When this is all done in November, she won’t be able to get elected Dogcatcher in Wassilla!!
http://www.themudflats.net/2008/09/27/alaskans-demand-accountability-

McCain in office for over 26 years, a career Politician.

Friends of Obama: Meet Franklin D. Raines
Franklin D. Raines, former chief executive of Fannie Mae, and two other top executives are paying a total of nearly $31.4 million over their roles in a 2004 accounting scandal in a settlement that the government announced Friday.
Mr. Raines; the former chief financial officer, J. Timothy Howard; and the former controller, Leanne G. Spencer, were accused in a civil lawsuit in December 2006 of manipulating earnings over a six-year period at the company, the largest American financier and guarantor of home mortgages.
Mr. Raines, a prominent Washington figure who was President Bill Clinton’s budget director, has agreed to pay $24.7 million, including a $2 million fine. Mr. Howard is paying $6.4 million and Ms. Spencer $275,000.
Mr. Raines will also give up company stock options valued at $15.6 million.
Fannie and Freddie both had multibillion-dollar accounting scandals that stunned Wall Street and brought record civil fines against them in settlements with the government.
Ofheo had sought fines of around $100 million against the three and restitution totaling more than $115 million in bonus money tied to an improper accounting scheme.
The regulators said an accounting fraud at Fannie Mae included manipulations to reach earnings targets so that Mr. Raines, Mr. Howard, Ms. Spencer and other company executives could pocket hundreds of millions in bonuses from 1998 to 2004.
- New York Times, April 19, 2008
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/19/business/19fannie.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

People, we hear over and over from the media and from passing conversation in general the two labels…Republican and Democrat. We must really dig down here and examine this problem. It wasn’t supposed to be this way. Beliefs and values are lumped into one category or the other. It is absolutely poisonous. We have to quit going with what is considered mainstream as a start to this mess. It is orchestrated this way on purpose so that they can keep blaming each other for everything, and I do mean everything. Freak show out there, we have to do something about this!

The 228-205 roll call Monday of the vote by which the House rejected a $700 billion emergency bailout for the nation’s financial system.
ADVERTISEMENT
A “yes” vote is a vote in favor of the bailout package.
Voting yes were 140 Democrats and 65 Republicans.
Voting no were 95 Democrats and 133 Republicans.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080929/ap_on_go_co/house_rollcall_financial_meltdown_1

No bailout was good for the country. Debt would never end with it. Things would just continue to get worse and we would be asked to give more money. The big companies need to take responsibility for their own actions. Neither presidential candidate is to blame.

Derek: “Whose are these f*cknuts who actually believe McInsane’s sound barfs that Obama some how caused this???? II have a retort to your posts you paleolithic morons! The Democrats voted for this 60-40, nearly 2/3s FOR, the Republicans voted against it at an even higher rate, 63-37 AGAINST. The Democrats have a majority, yes, in that you are correct – relish it as it is the only thing you are likely to be correct on for some time – but the Democrats DO NOT have an overwhelming majority. For controversial and difficult legislation to pass, it needs leadership from both aisles. Barack provided it, McInsane just tried to play it on TV. And what happened, you’re 401(k) got smoked for another 10Gs, oops I’m sorry – I’m sure you don’t have one of those, you unemployable, uneducated, mouth-breathing Appalachians. Here’s a helpful tip, one you can actually use, before you put your britches back on in the outhouse, make sure to use the hand WITH the toilet paper to wipe your @ss – or your wife/sister won’t want to make sexy-time with you! J#sus Republicans fit in two neat categories, apathetic or illiterate.”
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Derek, you are an embarrassment and a disgrace to all Americans. The hatred and contempt that oozes from your post – as well as others you have put on this blog – are frightening. Frankly, if you are a “typical” Obama supporter we are really screwed.
I am not a party-line person, and I am no fan of Obama, but I have never spoken about him or to any of the people who support him as you have in your posts. What happens if Obama wins the election – it’s hard to imagine how much worse you, and others who post as you do, will act toward those of us who didn’t jump on the Obama bandwagon.

Frankly, I believe the bailout is a really bad,bad idea! Let the shareholders that based their future on risky investments take the blame. These companies we are bailing out are going to go bankrupt and thus their ownership will fall into the hands of those who bought into and supported them! Sure, their will be some downside to this, but it will not wind up on my back or my kids!

Friends of Obama: Recent ACORN “Community Organizing Achievements” Ignored By Mainstream Media
California: http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/74775
Florida: http://www.wesh.com/news/17541353/detail.html
North Carolina: http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/elections-chief-asks-voter-fraud/story.aspx?guid=%7BC13C6A8D-FFA9-431E-BC61-9F38CF81A367%7D&dist=hppr
Ohio: http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2008/08/cuyahoga_board_probes_voter_re.html

Traci..i read your post again..geez, i applaud you..i wish i had the words to describe idiots like you do…i just cal them idiots..you have a way about you.

What I am having a tough time grasping are the GOP elected officials who voted down the bill because Pelosi called the Bush administration on the carpet. My friends are barely hanging on to their small businesses as credit lines that were there before dry up and many House Republicans voted “nay” because their feelings were hurt? What is even more disheartening is they had the gall to admit to the public such childish behavior.
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Posted by: Paige | Sep 29, 2008 3:41:41 PM
This, i seriously hate the GOP they need to die just like the wigs and federalists. You can’t expect goodwill to win over thieves when there are no laws against stealing. Yes i know it was the clinton administration that started all this but the economy was in a FAR different shape in Clinton’s admin.

McCain is a disgusting old man…

Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | Sep 29, 2008 8:13:56 PM
He’s right the democrats don’t have an overwhelming majority like some of you have been stating. “For controversial and difficult legislation to pass, it needs leadership from both aisles.” This is also true.
I get tired of you Republicans spouting lies all the time. You wouldn’t know what a fact was if it hit you in the face.

This whole “economic crisis” is nothing more than an attempt by Pelosi, Obama and others to make the democratic party look good during the campaign – If you think they weren’t planning on using this as part of Obama’s campaign, you’re only kidding yourself. Thank goodness enough Republicans (133) AND Democrats (95) had the common sense to stop this nonsense in its tracks. Economists are screaming that this plan is a bad one – the American people are screaming that they don’t want it – today, a few brave members of the House finally listened. The fact is, there is no economic crisis – only a lending crisis and it will resolve itself in time.

i will even let you pick the subject…but, two rules..no blaming or bashing…just facts.

NO BAILOUT. Don’t panic.. MikeFromNJ is right. Everyone needs to relax. Form your investments in that which you can control. Your house for instance. Start paying it off. Buy CD’s. The funds will readjust to the market in time. That is if we do not sink a trillion into this debacle! Let those that invested in these risky comps take it. The businesses will go bankrupt and will be bought up cheaply and the shareholders will get stuck with the loss.

Posted by: J…just what i thought..all talk..geez, you amuse me

Tell that to my neighbors …their septic system failed and guess what..; they are scrambling to get credit to get it fixed. For most Americans this is not pocket change. In the real world people do not always have the luxury of time.

Posted by: J..another time …should not say reps don’t know facts, and when one calls you out on it, you run..doe’s not make you look intelligent at all..makes you look like an idiot..next time you call one of us out, plan ahead and hang around..you may learn something.

Posted by: J…just what i thought..all talk..geez, you amuse me
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | Sep 29, 2008 8:34:18 PM
We lowly democrats have to work for a living and I just happen to work third shift which starts at 10. I am glad I am so amusing at least you got your jollies for the day.

here is one fact for you…Palin is not expereinced enough to be President..that’s a fact.very few VP candidates are experienced to be VP when they are running. they turn out to be experienced 4 years later…however, fact # 2…she is qualified.

Newsflash, No one is going to get any credit even if the bill passes.

Time after time, fyi, Secretary Paulson asked McCain to come back to DC because the deal was falling apart and he needed McCain’s help. Senator Reed said that McCain was needed in DC to get the bill passed. So what happens when McCain comes to DC, the Dems play Presidential politics to the hilt and blame McCain for killing the deal when there was no deal and they knew it.
If you knew how McCain was treated by Obama and the Democrats in their cute little ambush at the White House briefing you wouldn’t want to look at Obama either. Everytime McCain looks at Obama he sees the letters L.I.A.R. Reid tells Lindsey Graham that he needs McCain to come to Washington to get the Repubicans to back the baiilout bill. (The Democrats could have passed it without the support of the Republicans, but were looking for poiitical cover). McCain takes the bait. When Obama arrives he is passed information from Paulson’s office that is confidecial information about an alternative plan from the Republicans. (Paulson is a Democrat and has staffers who clearly are). Reid, Pelosi and others plan to ambush McCain and others with this information and give there time to talk to Obama for him to pretend that he came up with these talking points himself. (He is a good pretender is nothing else). McCain listens at the meeting that clearly is an ambush and not in good faith. He tries to help move the bill forward. The Democrats stage a meeting immediately afterward to disparage McCain for coming to help. I don’t know how you Democrats can support leadership like that. God help us all if this backstabbing and putting party first in time of crisis, is the change Obama is bringing. I want to puke everytime I see Reid, and Pelosi.

Posted by: J ..go earn a living…you would just lose this one

J…you were the idiot that said ” REPs do not know what a fact is”..i simply called you out on it…do the liberal thing…run away …you would only answer a question with a question of your own…would just be a waste of time.

hello my friend rhbate.

Wing nuts: can’t argue the issues so make up crap about acorns. Limbaugh has you by your tiny nuts, squirrel face.

95 of the democrats did not vote for the bailout bill and Larry, Obama, and Nancy did not pressure them to votes “YES” because they are from the battle states and revive large number voters against it. If they are on record voting for the bill, the democrat will lose seats in November.

Conspiracy Theory 101 : class will be held tonight during the Fox News Hannity Hour. Bring your note book so you can spread lies and deceit on behalf of the morally bankrupt McCain campaign. Eat my acorns, nut job.

Come on… I understand that people need credit now. That does not change that fact. The bailout will only enable banks to leverage their current stable of BAD loans with that which they can borrow for other financial institutions (FOREIGN). Given the sate of and magnitude of BAD loans, these banks will charge an astronomical rate just to make money off of the loan. Remember the 80′s. Yes, banks will get money from the tax payer and use it to borrow from other financial institutions to stabilizetheir own crisis.

How does McCain blame Obama when the Republicans are the ones who by majority voted this down?? And what’s up with McCains wife’s new hairdo?? LOL… it’s like she wants to seem more normal, down to earth & more likeable? Instead of the rich hag we all met in the beginning!

The DOW lost 777 pts. today. I have a lot of friends who lost a bundle and they are not mad at 12 republicans. They want to ring Nancy Pelosi’s neck. She is the most hated woman in America.

Obama and Pelosi are always blaming the Republicans for the current economic meltdown. However, the cause the current financial failure lays squarely with the Democrats and their insistence in giving federally guaranteed mortgages to people who could not afford them. Than to add insult to injury, the Democrats wanted to add all sorts of goodies to the bailout like billions of dollars to ACORN, the group Obama is in bed with and under investigation for voter fraud. Republicans were able to get some of the Democratic goodies out of the bill, but they may come back now that the bill was defeated.
During an economic downturn, Obama also wants to increase government spending by a TRILLION dollars, take over the energy industry, the health industry and give tax credits and refunds to some people with money he has confiscated from others, the so called rich. Problem is the so called top 5% already pay 60% of all the taxes and in main are composed of American businesses. So under Obama’s tax plan, American businesses will be paying 80% of all the taxes? Common sense tells you this just won’t work. Businesses will eventually fold under the weight of Obama’s higher taxes and go out of business. With zero taxes to pay for all of Obama’s Trillion dollar government giveaway programs we will all be in the poor house if Obama is elected.

Squirrels for McCain lunch menu: acorn chips, acorn soup, acorn sandwiches, acorn ice cream. For desert a presentation from the morally bankrupt campaign of the biggest nut job of all, John McCain.

The congress will not be working tomorrow. They are planning to go home until Wednesday.

Thanks Pelosi! Good timing for your selfish rantings.

Thank you Democrats and those Independents and Republicans who are staying on point and rationally discussing the issue at hand. The nonsense the rest of you are spewing is why there is no reasonable bailout plan. That’s how it was on Capitol Hill all week…whine…..he said, she said…I back the plan…no I don’t…it’s his/her fault. Where’s the accountability? Certainly not with all those incumbents who were wishy washy all week and then bailed today. They should have been honest about how they felt last week and time could have been better spent on a plan that the majority all would approve. Instead we’ve wasted precious days….how very political.

McCain – your nuts are so small you’ve named them Sean and Rush. Fox News is now the official network for right-wing conspiracy theory nut jobs. Kristol is so squirrely he might be the most dangerous nutcase of them all.
Posted by: Steve from Danville
STEVEH…DID YOU READ YOUR COMMENTS BEFORE SENDING THEM?..WHO IS NUTS ??…LORD HELP YOU CHILD…BEDTIME !!

Barack Obama’s incessant drumbeat about the failure of the economic policies of the last eight years is either gross ignorance or, more likely, political blame shifting. The cause of the current meltdown is clearly the Democrat’s insistence upon giving federally guaranteed mortgages to people who could not afford them. Even now, Democrats insist, not on the minimum government involvement possible, but on adding all sorts of give-away ornaments on the bailout Christmas tree. Obama is also promising to take over the energy industry, the health industry, and to give tax credits and even refunds to some people with money he shamelessly takes from others. American business will eventually fold under the weight of Obama’s higher taxes and then think great depression, even worse.,

Congress must attach a rider to any bailout legislation bill. The rider should establish new regulations for securing mortgages, credit cards and any credit applications. The rider should establish a 40% down payment for any mortgage that is personal or for business with an income requirement of at least 60% of the remainder of the mortgage. Credit cards can only be issued in the amount of no more than 10% of personal income. Only one credit card per married family members living in the same household. No child under 18-years-of-age shall be issued a credit card unless they can show a constant income of no less than 80% of the credit card’s value. If the juvenile cannot maintain gainful employment, then the credit card shall be cancelled. At no time shall credit be more than 50% of a married couple’s income, that includes mortgages, credit cards, car purchases and whatever else is that can be purchased with credit.
Remanding personal and business credit totals should be entered on every income tax filed in each quarter or at the end of the year. The rider would track American credit use with the threat of perjury that includes fines and possible jail. You say that is too harsh a treatment. Well, so is the complete collapse of America at the hands of foreign countries buying American properties at give-away-prices.
The Americans have complained about the bailout legislation. They only point their finger in the direction of President Bush, Wall Street and the banks. It is time for the taxpayers to assume the brunt of the problem by using credit without consideration and no thought of tomorrow . Well, tomorrow has arrived and it is a financial mess created by everyone.

Jake – I repeat.. please do not edit the important posts I have been providing about the space ship that abducted John McCain, and the subsequent McCain Transplant. Did you notice that McCain would not look anyone in the eye Friday night? That is a trait of the aliens who inhabit Planet Sleazeball.

Posted by: Patrick..that was an intelligent comment…good for you…have any more?

Posted by: Steve from Danville …you need to strop making your self look like a fool,,thank about your family for God’s sake..stop it !!!

PELOSI, DODD, REID AND FRAK.. THESE ARE THE MUSKETEERS.
THEY INJECTED PARTISAN BLOOD INTO EVERYTHING BY TRYING TO PROTECT OBAMA..
MCCAIN HAD MADE A SWEET MOVE, THEY COUNTERED BY SAYING HE PARACHUTED INTO A SITUATION THEY SUPPOSEDLY HAD UNDER CONTROL. THESE FOUR CLOWNS HAD NOTHING UNDER CONTROL.
HAD MR OBAMA GONE TO WA W/O MUCH ADO, THIS MIGHT BE OVER..
THE FOUR MUSKETERRS STARTED PARTISAN OPLITICS AND ATTACKING MCCAIN’S GENUINE EFFORT.
WELL, OBAMA IS PROTECTED, HE HAD HIS DEBATE AND THE ECONOMY IS ABOUT TO COLLAPSE.
OBAMA CONTINUES TO DWELL IN THE PAST..HAD ALL THIS NOT OCCURED IN THE FIRST PLACE.. THEY DID OCCUR
WHATS THE MESSIAH’S ANSWER?
NONE!!
OBAMA IS PREOCCUPIED WITH THE POLLS AND CAMPAIGNING AS THOUGH NOTHING IS HAPPENING
IF HE CANT CONTROL HIS DEMO CONGRESS WHAT CAN HE DO.. ALL HE DOES IS TELL TELL US HOW TERRIBLE MCCAIN AND PALIN ARE..
PELOSI AND DOD HAD NO CONTROL ,,
MAYBE MCCAIN DOES NEED TO PARACHUTE IN AND TELL YOU CLOWNS WHAT TO DO..
THEY CAN PASS THIS WITH THE REBUPS BUT THATS NO GOOD FOR POLITICS.

Lib person – I love everyone except bigots, conspiracy theorists, thugs, bullies, liars and nut jobs. I have to go now, it’s time to read a good night story to my kids. It’s a story about the space ship from Planet Acorn….. see ya later.

I have a small business and, if Obama were to raise the corporate tax rate as he plans, I will be letting 20 employees go. Their work will be shifted to my remaining employees. That will allow my business to survive a 4-5% increase in federal tax. After that, I will be raising the price to my customers to make up the remainder of the corporate tax increase. I may have to raise it further to make us the new FUTA and personal income tax I have to pay – after all, I have a mortgage too, and if I don’t pay it, I get foreclosed.
I will not allow the identity and policies of the president of the United States to cause the failure of my business. So, save up your tax refund, because you will be paying it many times over in increased costs of goods and services as businesses like mine adjust to an Obama presidency. And pray that your job is absolutely essential to the day-to-day operations of your employer, because if it is not you may well find yourself not having to worry about paying taxes at all.
I prefer not to fire my employees and raise my prices. So I will be voting McCain.

Americans, Where Your Vote Will Bring Real Change
My Vote is going here:
http://www.baldwin08.com/

John McCain is really sad…He needs to retire with Cindy. Perhaps they can use Sarah Palin as there maid to wipe up the mess they have made.

Someone check the old man’s meds. The bill failed because 30% of republicans voted for it! Over 60% of democrats voted for it! Had over 60% of republicans voted for it, it woudl have passed OLD MAN! Do the math! Had you delivered the same percentage of YOUR party it would have PASSED! you were USELESS. You couldn’t even deliver YOUR OWN PARTY. How the in the world are we supposed to think you can lead this nation?????

“The notion that Nero fiddled while Rome burned is nonsense because the fiddle wasn’t invented until many centuries after he ruled Rome, from 54 to 68 A.D. He may have toyed with a lute, but certainly not a fiddle. What’s more, Nero seems to have been something less than all bad. For one thing, he was a pioneer in what we would now call ‘urban renewal.’ He planned to rebuild much of Rome and ran into a lot of trouble with property owners who resented his condemnation proceedings. When the big fire broke out in 64 A.D. (it burned nine days and destroyed two thirds of the city), Nero didn’t do much to win the hearts and minds of his people by ordering some other buildings burned to stop the fire’s progress. But in the end, Nero proved to be a pretty smart politician. He blamed the fire on the Christians, who were then a much put-upon sect and a handy scapegoat. The truth seems to be that while the Christians didn’t actually start the fire, they didn’t do much about putting it out either…”
Bush is trying to do the right thing? Well his 3 page BAILOUT plan leaves much to be desire but his heart is in the right place FINALLY. However since we have grown to distrust his take on things, the Bailout is being damned due to the guilt that is instilled in the minds of congress/AMERICANS because they feel they were hoodwinked into believing in the need to invade Iraq which was a costly mistake. We will suffer because of our leaders inability to let the past be the past and forge on!
THROW THE BUMS OUT, DEMS AND REPUBS SINCE THEY DON’T KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH ANY CRISIS–THEY ARE A JOKE!

Reading comments from my fellow Americans disgust me. Neither side
EVER sees mistakes made by their party.
They can recite a hot of mistakes by the other party and endless excuses for the failures of their party.This is why America WILL be a 3rd world country in the short future! The parties need to be ABOLISHED and the solutions to our problems addressed before it is too late.STOP making excuses for the greed and incompetence!!!!!

Jay, I am a small business owner too. The fact is is that you will never see a TRILLION DOLLARS spent. Where on earth do you think that money will come from? You are succumbing to scare tactics set forth by your party. I have seen that generic BS number thrown around this forumn and unbelievably, it has just become popular with the days following the debate. What BS

Trust me Brenda, I am just fine and by the way, why don’t you stuff it with the “your leader” BS. Go pontificate to your snake handlers.

George Bush is the Leader of the US, so why would dumb McCain say that Obama is not leading us in the economic crises. He isn’t the President,yet. He is one of 50 senators. There was no reason for McCain to suspned his campaign. He was in the way in Washington. McCain is trying to fool the American people again.

Jay, again… there is way he or anyone could spend the money. It does not and will not exist. He know this and has admitted that his administration would not be able to set all of these plans in action. Certainly spending will have to occur but only in much needed areas such as domenstic and alternative fuels.

They talk about the lesser of two evils, McCain and Obama, but they both equal more evil. McCain and Obama are change that stays the same.
My Vote is going here:
http://www.baldwin08.com/

matta, You need to read Obama’s tax policies before you call people stupid. Obama wants to raise taxes for anyone with an income of $250,000 or more. This is not the income of large corporations. It is the income of small to mid level American businesses.
Small and mid level businesses provide most of the jobs in the US. Obama’s higher taxes will kill the economic and job producing engine of the US, small and mid level business. Once they go under, we all go under.

Shut up John, Shut up Barack! You both supported this monstrosity against the American people and on behalf of your banker buddies. I’m voting 3rd party this year. And everybody who supported this bill just lost my vote!

— Has anyone noticed that Barak Obama who got his hand caught in the Freddie and Fannie cookie jar is MIA from this whole mess. Not only did he vote “NO” when the bills came forth to regulate this housing industry, he also took money from it. —
Laughable! McCain has taken more money in contributions from the FM’s, and the bill you are (and all other McCain supporters) referring to never made it out of a rebublican controlled house (although McCain won’t mention that part). This continued repetition of outright lies is getting out of hand.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/10/us/politics/10fannie.html
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill

McCain and Obama are change that stays the same.
Here is the change the American people urgently need.
Return to the values of the American way and stop the corruption in WASHINGTON, D.C.
My Vote is going here:
http://www.baldwin08.com/

Concerned American, You forget Obama’s convicted felon friend Rezco and the rampant corruption that is inherent in government. You assume, by taking money by force from American business and turning it over to government that it will “trickle down” directly back to the middle class. Not so. Government is riddled with corruption, inefficiency, red tape, and a bureaucrat sitting behind some desk, dictating to you, as Obama has said, in order to get any money from the government “you can’t drive your SUVs, eat all the food you want, or keep your thermostat at 72 degrees all the time. I WON’T ALLOW IT”

The Republicans and the Democrats NEVER look back on their past mistakes. They just continue on making the same old mistakes one right after the other.
Return to the values of the American way and stop the corruption in WASHINGTON, D.C.
My Vote is going here:
http://www.baldwin08.com/

I wish that all these simple minded democratic party idiots (an obamanuts like Cee W.) on this blog would just shut the ____ up.
As for Everym’s contention that “factcheck.org” has set the record straight on the dual-citizenship issue that voids the vile person’s eligibility for POTUS, that is just another misleading lie.
FACT: The MSM has been hiding from the true fact that there is an active court case now in progress in a federal court demanding the submission of the vile person’s real birth certificate showing time, place, and location of birth, doctor’s signature and mother’s signature, all of which are necessary to document that a person was WITNESSED being born in the U.S. “Factcheck.org” is just a mouthpiece for Obama/Ayers and the Annenberg scam that has been squandering multi-(hundreds of) millions over the years in grant giveaways as a money laundering scheme for leftist revolutionaries. Would anyone now trust the “Beobachter” press for the truth about Hitler?
FACT: In response to the Berg suit in federal court challenging the vile person to show the birth certificate to a federal judge, even the “fight she smears” vile person’s own apologetic propaganda outlet is now admitting that the vile person was, in fact, a citizen of Kenya by birth to a Kenyan father without regard to place of birth. Thus this fact was kept hidden and treated as though it were a “smear” for many months all the while it was known to be true. Thus even the vile person himself admits that he was at one time a person with “dual citizenship,” a fact that is not known by most American citizens at the present time because of his own misleading posturing and the MSM’s complicity in that. This fact is relevant apart from the fact that it exposes the vile person as having willfully tried to deceive the whole country, because it remains an open question as to whether this in and of itself disqualifies the vile person from the presidency. Many people believe that the U.S. Constitution explicitly prohibits anyone from holding the office of president that has ever at any time in their life had a loyalty to a country other than the U.S.A., with the sole exception of those born before the U.S.Constitution was written who were born in the colonies and never supported the crown of England against the continental armies of the American revolution. In other words, a man who was once a dual citizen of Kenya and the U.S.A. is ineligible for the office of president, should the Supreme Court concur with this interpretation of the Constitution. Forced to admit the truth due to the pressure applied by a lawsuit in a federal court to which the response has been delay, delay, stall, obfuscate, stonewall, stall, stall, the vile person now admits openly that he once was indeed a citizen of Kenya and was therefore at best a dual citizen of Kenya and of the U.S.A.
FACT: The vile person has thus far refused to submit a copy of his real birth certificate to the court in which the above mentioned lawsuit is being heard. The single most effective way of silencing the complaint against him would be for him to present the certificate that so many people keep insisting is really real, and he (thus far) refuses to do that–thus keeping the question open. The document on “factcheck.org” is only a government summary of a birth record having somehow been put on file, but it is not a “birth certificate” because it does not show the mother’s signature, the doctor’s signature, the hospital name, or the time and place of the supposed “birth”. The vile person’s refusal to present that document to the court can only be seen now as a defiance bred of fear that the whole true truth is damaging to the vile person’s ambitions. Were the document demanded of you or I (assuming that you were born in this country as I was and have a certified copy of your own real birth certificate), the fastest way to put this story to rest before it becomes a damaging story in the MSM would be to simply produce the certificate in the courtroom and let the judge look at it. The vile person has not done that. The natural question “WHY NOT?” is now inescapable.
FACT: Thus far, the MSM refuses to report even the story that a federal court has agreed to review the complaint submitted by the plaintiff, Mr. Berg, and had demanded that the vile person and the DNC respond by the 24th of September. (Which they did just prior to the deadline, by filing a motion to dismiss). WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS MERIT TO THIS CASE, WHETHER OR NOT THE JUDGE RULES IN FAVOR OF THE DEFENDANTS AND DISMISSES THE CASE, WHETHER OR NOT THE COURT FINDS THAT THE VILE PERSON HAS NO CONVINCING EVIDENCE THAT HE WAS INDEED BORN ON U.S. SOIL, THE FACT OF THE CASE BEING HEARD IN A FEDERAL COURT IS, IN AND OF ITSELF, NEWS. WHY HAS THE MSM NOT SAID A SINGLE WORD ABOUT EVEN THE EXISTENCE OF THIS ACTION?
If nothing else, this “non-news” story that has been completely ignored by the MSM has provoked the vile person to admit, belatedly, that he was, in fact, a citizen of Kenya at one time. Would that have happened without this suit? If for no other reason than that, the story is news. THE STORY IS NEWS! But it is not being reported. Why?
WE ARE BEING LIED TO.
THIS IS THE BIGGEST CONSPIRACY TO HIDE THE TRUTH FROM THE ENTIRE NATION IN THE HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY!
The true meaning of the message of the silence of the presses is very clear:
1.THE VILE PERSON WHO IS THE SUBJECT OF THIS STORY CANNOT BE HONORABLE.
2. THE ENTIRETY OF THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA ARE CONTROLLED BY A SINGLE WILL.
MOUNTAINS OF LIES ARE BEING FORGED TO CONVINCE THE COUNTRY THAT THIS PERSON IS OTHER THAN WHO AND WHAT HE REALLY IS. WHY?!!! WHY??!!! WHY???!!!
FURTHER, POINT NUMBER 2, ABOVE, IS A TERRIFYING REALIZATION NO MATTER WHAT ANY OF THE OTHER ISSUES ARE! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

Over 90 democrates voted against this thing——-why are the dems trying to pretend this isn’t so? Their guys are up for re-election are scared to have their names attached to this thing.

Obama tried to take enough credit earlier as well for the proposal. Also he has criticized McCain for the last week for saying the fundamentals of our economy are strong and basically said the same dang thing today!

rob, When McCain was called back to DC by Paulson, there was no deal and the Republicans were being ignored. McCain, brought the Republicans to the table. The reason the Democrats were so incensed with McCain is because it blew their plan to put all kinds of Democrat earmarks in the bill including billions of dollars to ACORN. ACORN is the corrupt organization Obama is in bed with who is under indictment for voter fraud and was involved in strong arming banks into giving bad loans to risky borrowers. The Republicans were able to get most of the Democrat earmarks out of the bill including the billions of dollars for ACORN.
What happened today is that, the Republicans were going to vote for the bill until two things happened that Pelosi was behind. First off, Pelosi made a very partisan speech that blamed all the economic problems on Bush and the Republicans. Than as the votes were being taken, a lot of Democrats, that had previously said they were going to vote for the vote, suddenly changed their votes and voted no. Pelosi was setting the Republicans up to take the fall for the vote since she knew the bill was so unpopular. McCain had nothing to do with what happened in Congress today. The blame all goes to Pelosi. Pelosi had enough Democrat votes to pass the bill and she could have passed it if she wanted to. Pelosi was just playing politics with the future our economy at stake. Pelosi make me want to throw up.

To: golfgirlusa | Sep 29, 2008 3:45:33 PM
Well, Mccain did declared “Mission Accomplished” and claimed full credit in a speech today, just before the vote.
You might want to watch the news before miss-informing others
That’s why we are in this whole because of people like you that don’t want to open their eyes and ears.

It’s a democratic mess, Obama and Dodd have about $ 330,000 worth of Fannie and Freddie monies to explain. Raines and Johnson were Obama’s advisors/friends/supporters, we can see the connection. Let the democrats pay the 700 billion, it’s their fault. Never, Never trust an empty suit liberal.
Mccain/Palin – no more liberals !!!

McCain is a joke. Laugh at loud at McCain. He cannot even admit that he made a mistake when he said, 10 DAYS AGO “the fundamentals of the economy are strong.” Admit you were wrong, McCain. Be a man and admit you were wrong about the economy. McCain.. admit you are wrong about the economy. Be a man and admit you were wrong. Admit you made a mistake. You are wrong… go ahead and admit you were wrong.

Obama should co-operate with the federal court on this lawsuit. He is not a U S citizen, he has no right to comment and no right to run for president!!!
google: Case #08-CV-4083
A lawsuit was brought by Philip J. Berg, Esquire, [Berg is a former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania; former candidate for Governor and U.S. Senate in Democratic Primaries; former Chair of the Democratic Party in Montgomery County; former member of Democratic State Committee; an attorney with offices in Montgomery County, PA and an active practice in Philadelphia, PA, filed a lawsuit in Federal Court on 8/21.
“Plaintiff Philip J. Berg, Esquire [hereinafter “Plaintiff”] hereby offers this Memorandum in support of his motion for a temporary restraining order, to enjoin Defendant Barack Hussein Obama, a/k/a Barry Obama, a/k/a Barry Soetoro, a/k/a Barack Soetoro, a/k/a Barry Dunham, a/k/a Barack Dunham [hereinafter “Obama”] from running
for the office of President of the United States”
“Obama’s grandmother on his father’s side, his half-brother and half-sister all claim Obama was born not in Hawaii but in Kenya. Reports reflect that Obama’s mother traveled to Kenya during her pregnancy; however, she was prevented from boarding a flight from Kenya to Hawaii at her late stage of pregnancy (which, apparently, was a normal restriction, to avoid births during a flight). By these reports, Stanley Ann Dunham Obama gave birth to Obama in Kenya, after which she flew home and registered Obama’s birth.”
The DNC is looking into Obama’s Kenya origial birth certificate. Another lie from “The One”. Obama was born in Mombasa, Kenya. This will be the downfall of “the one”. Obama was a citizen of kenya, USA and then Indonesia. When he became a citizen of Indonesia, he lost his status as citizen of the USA. he can never be a “natural born” citizen of the USA. Therefore, he can’t be elected president, only natural born citizens can be elected president.
“A research team went to Mombassa, Kenya, and located a Certificate Registering the birth of Barack Obama, Jr. at a Maternity Hospital, to his father, a Kenyan citizen and his mother, a U.S. citizen.”

Who is pulling the puppet strings of John McCain? His campaign manager, Rick Davis, is a paid lobbyist for Freddie Mac. That explains a lot. McCain owns 9 houses… no real estate problems. He has $100,000,000 so he ain’t feeling the pain. He’s out of touch. Lost in a fog. Nothing left in the tank except lies and smears, sleazy ads and deceit. We are done with you, John McCain.

Steve from Danville, Obama said the same thing McCain did today, the fundamentals of the economy are strong.

martha – I hope you get carpal tunnel from typing that ridiculous piece of conspiracy theory crap. Did that drop out of the sky from Planet Acorn? One thing about Obama’s plan for education is that eventually the entire electorate will be smart enough to recognize the crazy, bird-brained spew-junk from right-wing nut jobs like you.

Steve from Danville, Obama has nine terrorist friends. Read the below article and count them. http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/barack_obama_and_the_strategy.h

martha – go back to Fox News and “learn up” on some more better conspiracy junk. Spew your crap over there where the nut job ratio is more in your favor. When you take crap off the internet web sites of insane bigots and spew it as truth, you’re paving a path to the Gates of Hell for your day of reckoning.

We really need everyone to get on board with this!!! On several other blogs they encouraged people to call the National Enquirer to ask them to run the Philip Berg lawsuit story in their publication. We all kept meeting with resistance by the same woman who refused to put us through to a manager/supervisor and claimed she was a reporter for the Enquirer. She made alot of inappropriate comments/questions like “why do you hate Obama so much?” When I, and others tried to explain this wasn’t about Obama so much as preserving the Constitution of the United States, she summarily dismissed us all and basically hung up on us. I contacted, via a back door, a “higher up” with the National Enquirer and told him what had happened and asked him to cover the Berg case. He was unaware of the case. I gave him the http://www.obamacrimes.com website and he said he will look into it. However, we need thousands of people to call this Editor to state they want the lawsuit to be covered, so he doesn’t think it is only a small group of people who want this. The Editor’s name is Barry Levine and his phone number is 646-935-6042. That is his direct phone number. So, everyone, please call Mr. Levine and ask him to run this story!

Just like the Edwards Affair story, the National Enquirer is going to scoop the MSM on Obama not being a naturalized U.S. citizen. I can’t wait. It is pretty funny that a rag like the National Enquirer does a better job reporting real news that Americans need to hear vs. the MSM.

Obama: cooperate with the federal court.
Is this the change we were promised?
case UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE EASTERN DISTRICT OF PENNSYLVANIA
PHILIP J. BERG, ESQUIRE, :
Plaintiff :
vs. :CIVIL ACTION NO: 08-cv- 04083
:
BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, ET AL, :
Defendants :
Obama produce the documents.
1. Obama’s “vault” version (certified copy of his “original” long version)
Birth Certificate; and
2. A certified copy of Obama’s Certification of Citizenship;
3. A Certified copy of Obama’s Oath of Allegiance.
We are waiting Obama !!!

Jake Tapper, you fool. I ask you, I beg you, PLEASE don’t ignore the truth about McCain. This is a true story and you can check it out at the website http://www.nutjob.conspiracytheory/liesFromMcCain.net. John McCain was abducted by aliens who planted an alien midget inside his body. That’s why McCain gave everyone the hairy eye-ball during the debate… please publish this so we don’t elect an ALIEN.

Vote for Bart M — your brain is stapled to the jockey shorts of Congressman Mark Foley.

steve from queerville – You’re the last queer that should be talking about conspiracy, I’m sure you just watch biased bs, which really makes you a dum dum lib. You have no statements of fact, just ignorant attacks, typical liberal nonsense.

McCain is beside himself realizing his campaign is going down in a flaming ball of hellfire. Palin was a wet match that just exploded the fury of the netherworlds into deeper darker crevices of abysmal lies. McPain 08 never

Obama isn’t even eligbile to be POTUS. His days on the campaign trail are numbered. Yea!!!
http://www.obamacrimes.com/index.php/component/content/article/1-main/24-berg-files-opposition-to-defense-motion-for-dismissal#comments

Obama, McCain, Biden or Palin ….. It does not matter which one you vote for in November. They all agree to expand the Middle East conflict at the cost of American lives and at the cost to American taxpayers. It is no different then when President Carter (term of Presidency 1977-1981) said the United States must control the Persian Gulf because it is the hub of oil. Washington had more than thirty years to correct the United States oil shortages problem that showed its ugly head during the Carter administration and did nothing.
The answer to the oil shortage is Republicans and Democrats sending American son to die for oil. . Moreover, know the truth that it is not just a 9/11 or otherworld problem. Americans kill their own sons for OIL. Send the message loud and clear, GET OUT OF THE MIDDLE EAST. Vote for a President that says, GET OUT OF THE MIDDLE EAST and make them keep their PROMISE.
I am voting for a party that can keep a promise and a party that is against sending American troops anywhere in the world to fight United Nations problems.
My Vote is going here: Join us and free America from imperialism.
http://www.baldwin08.com/

I wish that Palin was running for prsident. She is the only candidate not involved in the banking and mortgage mess. Obama and the democrats are up to their eyeballs in this mess and McCain should have done more to stop the democrats.

maverick – you speak with forked tongue. To fix forked tongue, take Alaskan bear trap to Larry Craig’s cabin, pull down pants, bend over and ask Larry Craig to untrap the bear.

It’s funny how steve from queerville talks bad about his closet self and other homo’s. I thought that liberal Democrats represent the homo’s like steve from queerville. What a hypocrite steve from queerville is. Steve from queerville needs attention so his queerville tendencies don’t shine through. Steve from queerville needs a hug from a liberal homo’s in the room, anyone? Looks like you’re sh** out of luck steve from queerville, no homo’s here but you steve from queerville with a brown stained p*****.

Dan – LOL, what was that poll, MSNBC, LOL. Polls don’t matter you idiot, just look at Gore and Kerry, LOL. You’re more of a moron the steve from queerville with a log stuck in his stuttering mouth in a cabin for homo’s.

steve from queerville, why are you so consumed with the fact that obama is a Muslim? You should not even concern yourself with that, but protect you’re butt because Muslim’s hate queer’s like you steve from queerville. So you better run steve from queerville, because you’re not safe from the Islamic Muslim’s in queerville steve from queerville.

zeke, LMAO!

Pelosi and Obama: the right mix for failure. Democrats in control for two years and the country is headed for the deep six.
Liberals – NEVER, NEVER, NEVER !!!

Why should the dems muster the votes needed to make this bailout pass? Oh, that’s right, republicans didn’t want to face up to the backlashing. Instead, they want the dems to do all the work to get the bailout passed and then take all the credit.
It seems to me that the republicans are fair weather friends: they only put their country first when times are good and sneak off when times are bad.
Furthermore, I cannot believe the republicans are blaming pelosi’s speech and her partisan politics as the reason this bill failed. The truth of the matter is that the republicans have been so busy politicizing this bailout and crediting John McCain for his “amazing bipartisan effort” that their claims are riduculous.
Lastly, to anyone who wants to respond to my comment: please frame an argument that actually speaks to my point! I am tired of seeing replys that have little to do with the topic at hand.

The United States is like a sinking ship with a big hole in its side, Obama wants to give oars and McCain wants to give it more weight.
My Vote is going here:
http://www.baldwin08.com/

Both presidential candidates claim they will be able to bring the country together. Their slogans are bipartisanship and ‘reach across the aisle.’ But as the Bailout vote just proved, it won’t be that simple. It is not just republicans against democrats.
The New York Times has a useful tool @ http://www.nytimes.com/ref/washington/ROLLCALL.html?currentChamber=house&currentSession=2&currentCongress=110&currentRoll=674
that allows you to see graphically on a map how the representatives voted. Click on the ‘On A Map’ tab. The representatives are color coded by party and how they voted, and you get to see where their districts are located. You can filter several ways but I think the more useful view is to look at the whole big picture map with no filters.
I started to recognize certain patterns based on my understanding of the country.
I believe that the representatives were voting in the interests of their constituents. That provides a higher resolution picture of the country than just Red and Blue states. You get more information when you get down to the detail level of districts. But looking at clusters of votes on that map, you also get regional views. When you look at densely populated regions of the country, you generally see support for the bill, regardless of party.
Looking closer, there is strong bipartisan support for it in the New York area, of course. We also see clusters of bipartisan support in Los Angeles, San Francisco, and Silicon Valley. There are clusters of bipartisan support in the Dallas Houston area. There is strong support in the Chicago area but mixed support in the Detroit area. All of this makes sense to me. I even understand the large cluster of support in central Florida with large retiree populations living off investment income. Look at that solid block of republican support in Las Vegas. I won’t pretend to understand the South very well so I don’t know what favored the Bailout in places like Arkansas, Alabama, and South Carolina.
It is obvious, by looking at the map, where most of the opposition for this Bailout came from; the heartland and plains of the country. The places far removed from Wall Street and the gobbledygook of capital investments.
There are divides in the country that don’t always cleave between democrats and republicans. They are not even only as simple as conservative and liberal. This financial crisis shows that the divides are much more complex. There are parts of the country where people have to look at the financial crisis from a more practical and personal point of view. Those areas have large amounts of commercial investments. Their businesses, their jobs, their personal investments and their communities are at stake. Then there are those areas where they don’t feel they have much at stake.
I understand why representatives from commercial centers, republicans and democrats voted Yes. The more interesting part comes from the reasons for voting No.
Non stake holding, white collar, fiscal conservatives have the luxury of standing on ideology and the principles of market economics. They believe the government should stay out of it and let the market correct will itself. Non stake holding, blue collar, liberals and those who believe they have already gotten a bad deal from market economics feel it’s payback time. This is justice for those people who foreclosed on their neighbors homes and drove down their property value. This is what they deserve for shipping their jobs overseas.
The end result is we have a country divided in strange ways. We have people from opposite ends of the ideological spectrum coming together and people within parties coming apart on contentious issues. We have gridlock and ineffective government. So for the next president, it’s not going to be as simple as being bipartisan and reaching across the aisle. He will have to dig down in these details and find some core elements that Americans share if he is going to make the country work again.

Let’s try again. What does Obama mean by “stay calm”. Stay Calm my a**. The Titantic is sinking and he wants to go dancing in the ball room.

Newt Gingrich has the right solution to give congress time to work out a plan that doesn’t involve giving Paulson all that power and money. Suspend the “mark to market rule” for two weeks. He believes it will infuse liquidity into the market and it doesn’t take an act of congress. If it doesn’t work after two weeks they can reinstate the rule. Replace Paulson with the Under Sec. of the Treasury. Paulson is used to having power and spending money, and has conflict of interest. He’s not good.

McCain has been in Washington for 20+ years, what I see is a person that can’t do his job or he would have seen this coming, If I did that Bad of a job I would get Fired. And he wonts a better job and a rise in pay. WOW and how come he is not in jail for the S&L?
Saving and Loan sounds like what we have now! JOHN

McCain and the POW Cover-up:
http://www.nationinstitute.org/p/schanberg09182008pt1
By Sydney H. Schanberg
Sydney H. Schanberg, a Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter, has since 1959 been a reporter and columnist for the New York Times, Newsday and the Village Voice. He has reported extensively on the POW story.

Cindy McCain stole drugs and got illegal prescriptions.
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/1994-09-08/news/opiate-for-the-mrs/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cindy_McCain#American_Voluntary_Medical_Team

ACORN is a non-profit, non-partisan social justice organization with national headquarters in New York, New Orleans and Washington, D.C. To maintain independence, ACORN does not accept government funding and is not tax exempt. Obamabot
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Newsflash: ACorn is very partisan and very very very corrupt. Currently, it is involved in atleast 5 different major scandals for voter fraud and criminal activities. Even worse, Obama has given their organization $800,000 from his campaign to help him get elected. And this is just the tip of the iceberg. For pete’s sake OBAMABOTS sstop lying…

When did McCain flip on his alternative energy issue, because he hasn’t voted for it.
McCain, “voted against renewable sources of energy, against biofuels, against solar power, against wind power….
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/640/

Our House of Representatives listened to over 200 of America’s top economists and smart people of this country. They did what was right not what was fast and convenient and prosperous to the very rich. The fact that the House of Representatives rejected the bail out is awesome! Here is why. The bill was a just a band-aid that still benefitted the very rich and not the people. It was not a solution to the cause of the problem. This bill would only have postponed the inevitable to just after the next President is sworn in on Jan. 29, 2009. There are real solutions to the cause of the problems of the credit crises not even considered in this terrible fast paced 700 Billion dollar extortion bail out bill for the extremely rich people of this country and around the world.
In January 2009 the 7 trillion dollars in bad mortgage loans that the banks have reported will still be unpaid. Who knows how many trillion dollars of bad mortgage debt have not been reported by the banks. 700 billion dollars won’t even come close to paying for all of this debt. Financial melt down is inevitable. Let it happen now so true recovery can begin. Bush and his Cronies did their best to ram this 700 billion dollar pay off to the rich for making this mess down our throats.
Here is some interesting info. Bush and Chaney have recently purchased homes in foreign counties to for a speedy get away to live in after their terms are over in Jan. 2009. They didn’t want this economy to blow up on them while they were still in office. They didn’t want the blame for their very real immoral, unethical and most likely illegal actions. Yeah they got both.
One last fleecing of the American people was halted by our smart members of the House of Representatives who listened to the people and over 200 of America’s top economists. We can truly thank them for listening to us.
It’s time for millions of people to march on Washington DC peacefully in protest. The puppets of congress of the extremely rich are going attempt to pass this fraudulent bill again. “The only thing to fear is fear itself.” (President Franklin D. Roosevelt Democrat) Make the members of the House of Representatives and the members of the Senate know they were hired by all of us who voted for them not just a few very rich people. Make them know we are their bosses not a few rich families. We the People: Demand REAL SOLUTIONS FOR ALL PEOPLE not for just a very few extremely rich people!

He says he’s for veterans. LIAR
“Why Won’t McCain Sign the GI Bill?”
http://www.votevets.org/campaigns/ads?id=0006

BARACK OBAMA SUPPORTS AMERICA’S VETERANS
http://www.aflcio.org/issues/politics/unionveterans2008_flierobama.cfm

help Sarah Palin clean up Washington, visit http://www.sarahpalinhasaposse.com

Obama and McCain support only their party personal needs and their friends in business.
Republicans….Democrats….one in the same that will never change.
My Vote is going here:
http://www.baldwin08.com/

McCain A vote for you is like voting for Heart attack Oh thats right you have had how many?News says Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton will be Secretary of State.If so She has my Vote or should I say Obama now has my Vote

Why isn’t the MAIN STREAM MEDIA Talking about the Huge Voter Fraud taking place by Acorn, this is truly a despicable organization that is perpetrating Fraud in Any State it can.

On Sunday Obama claimed the deal was done and John McCain deserved no credit.

Correction ACORN recieves over 40% funding from govt sources, mostly govt grants. However, they are being investigated because they are taking this money under the guise of “consumer advocacy” to line their own pockets. Typical, since Obama was part of this organization.
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What does this remind me of? Hmmmm. Oh yeah, it reminds me of the way Obama helps his shady developer friends get government funds for low income housing, and then the housing becomes unlivable slums that are foreclosed on. While this is happening…Obama takes campaign cash from said developer friends.
Allegedly.
(Hope that covers me from the long arm of the “truth squads”)

**** Hope that covers me from the long arm of the “truth squads” ****
As long as you aren’t violating local laws regarding false and deceptive advertising, you are covered.. since this isn’t advertising (the false and deceptive part is of course standard republican fare).

As long as you aren’t violating local laws regarding false and deceptive advertising, you are covered.. since this isn’t advertising (the false and deceptive part is of course standard republican fare).
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Is the Obama “truth squad” gonna go after Obama too? Or are his deceptive ads above the “law of truth”?

I am writing this message to inform people of the injustice being perpretrated by Fox News against Barack Obama. For the past two weeks there has been nothing but negative reporting against senator Obama by the Fox News network, which is unfair to listeners and the candidate. This networks seemingly biased opinions are not of interest to us viewers. My concern is that negative reporting like this will influence voters that are undecided of which candidate best express their wishes. I depend on these news stations for fair, accurate and just reporting regardless of the outcome whether it be a debate or any other current event and if that cant be accomplished I feel that it is grounds for that station (Fox News network) to be boycotted until they learn and understand that those types of injustices will not be tolerated. If anyone else can relate to the unfair reporting of Fox News I suggest that you join us in a boycott of this news station. PASS THIS MESSAGE ALONG.

Undeceided (whatever that might be)
are you taking speech cues from Sarah Palin?
WHAT ARE YOU SAYING? Did you not read that the majority of the Democrats voted FOR it and teh majority of Republicans AGAINST IT?
Well I guess McCain is still in Washington, RIGHT? Cuz he WAS NOT LIVING UNTIL THIS WAS FIXED? poor guy… somebody bring him some coffee yeah?
I AM SO TIRED OF SENATOR MCCAIN USING THIS CRISIS FOR CAMPAIGN PURPOSES! JUST LIKE HE USED THE UN WORLD SUMMIT FOR SCHOOLING PURPOSES AND DEBUTANT OPPORTUNITIES!
JUST LIKE HE’S USING THE VICE-PRESIDENTIAL POST FOR MARKETING EFFORTS!
Any of you with children, specially minor children… ARE THERE ANY PROVISIONS TO WHAT’S GONNA HAPPEN TO YOUR CHILD in the event that you shouldl pass?
SEE? REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT NOMINEE IS NOT REALLY TOO CONCERNED WITH WHAT HAPPENS ONCE HE’S GONE.

AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST,
I’d like to remind you to keep praying for the prompt and safe return of GOvernor Sarah Palin.
We have reason to believe she is still alive, albeit enduring hardships that have left her with a strong disassociation between her brain and her mouth. A clear sign of mental abouse and physical deprivation (or is it the opposite? huh.. )
The reason we have is that we have been able to decode recent activities and have found that IF YOU LISTEN CAREFULLY, you can hear her screaming in the background:
TERRORIST BLONDE SHORT MAN DISGUISED AS FEMALE: “Why isn’t it better, Gov. Palin, to spend $700 billion helping middle-class families who are struggling?”
(hold on to something… this might be BUMPY!)
That’s why I say I, like every American I’m speaking with, we’re ill about this position that we have been put in where it is the taxpayers looking to bail out
AND JUMP
But ultimately, what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the health-care reform
AND JUMP!
that is needed to help shore up our economy, helping the…
AAAND JUMP INTO A QUICK PARENTHESIS!
it’s got to be all about job creation, too
AND JUMP BACK!
shoring up our economy and putting it back on the right track
AAAND LETS TAKE IT FROM THE TOP!
So health-care reform and reducing taxes and reining in spending has got to accompany tax reductions and tax relief for Americans
AAAND JUMP! BRING IT IN SARAH!
And trade, we’ve got to see trade as opportunity, not as a competitive, scary thing
AAAAND TRY TO GLUE IT ALL IN:
But one in five jobs being created in the trade sector today, we’ve got to look at that as more opportunity
AAAND NOW QUOTE FAMOUS LINE FROM RESIDENT EVIL:
All those things under the umbrella of job creation. This bailout is a part of that.
two words:
actuarial odds

McCain is to blame for the failure of the bill to pass. Obama warned about injecting presidential politics into this bailout bill but McCain’s campaign was faltering and therefore he put self before country and screwed it even form his own party ranks. Republicans are a disgrace and should be punished with more losses in the house and ultimately the presidency. McBush should not be elected unless Americans want a deep plunge in their image abroad and far greater financial peril. If you want all this vote McCain.

Very good news for all teh markets. Pre-markets is up high for all the markets. http://www.cnbc.com/id/17689937Very good news for all teh markets. Pre-markets is up high for all the markets. http://www.cnbc.com/id/17689937

Vote No, to the $700 billion bailout! Only ones to profit from the bailout are the Rich! and the Republicans

Wait a minute, this is not only Democrat that claims the sky will fail. Republican too have the same claim. Too prove it to ya, it was Bush, your voted two time Republican President that ask for it.

The pre-markets are still climbing up this morning.

Jeanie: got a lot of anger, huh? Do you ever watch anything besides FOX news? Did you notice that the REPUBLICANS wanted deregulation – and this is what happens…. And the ‘bad’ people to took out those mortgages – well, they were lied to by the mortgage people about how ‘affordable’ those loans would be, (there was intense pressure to build up packages of those loans, which were then, under deregulation, sold off as ‘prime’ when they were actually sub-prime, and, honey, that’s a whole different ball game, but when the Republicans wanted to line their pockets, this was a good way to do it – to Hell with what happens after I make my deposit to MY bank, right? Then when the economy tanks, and jobs go away (this didn’t happen this week, we’ve been sliding towards this for 8 years) and people lost their jobs, guess what? They couldn’t pay their bills. Bad, bad people. You’re right. You’re good, and the Bad people are all against you. Poor, noble Republicans **gag***.

Jeanie: the more of your comments I read, the more I think you need to take a History Class at the local Adult Ed. Recent History. Pakistan is NOT our friend. They would turn on us on a dime.
J&J: Your thoughts are so bizarre you should check out the nearest mental health center. Does your ‘Jesus’ exist? I hope to God not. The real Jesus is pure good, love, and if you CAN read, check out that trusty Christian Bible, he’s a liberal.

There is more than enough blame to go around in this mess. The biggest culprit was the deregulation of the banks during Reagan years. Remember the big “savings and loan” scandal back then? In January, when we had the “State of the Union” address, I don’t remember any mention of the five trillion dollar deficit or the billions and billions we borrowed the year before. We were told the economy was in good shape, pointing to the housing market and new home starts. Also, cutting taxes, during a long and expensive war, when they should have been raised, is another HUGH mistake. This is the most Imperialistic administration in history and they have resisted any oversights into their dealings. The GOP had no problem following Bush into a war or electing McCain as their standard bearer. How can they vote down the bailout when it is recommended by their own leadership? If they, themselves think McCain is wrong when he has emphasised the scope of the problem, why should I trust he knows enough to vote for him? They are simply playing politics with our lives. Kick the bums out.

In 2004 if the GOP wanted to take action then they could have. I wish people would stop the lying. Isn’t truth a family value? Oh wait – family values is not a rallying cry this election. I wonder why? John McCain did not do or say anything miraculous regarding Fannie and Freddie. He did nothing more than comment on an investigation that was carried out by another entity. Besides, if he has done so much in 26 years surely he and his supporters have evidence of something other than peripheral support of someone else’s work. Did he write a letter? Did he develop a plan? What has HE done in the form of legislation to enact regulation for Wall Street?

SoWhat…In 2004, the Democrats not only DIDN’T take action on this very issue, they fought AGAINST it! To me, that’s RELEVANT. Especially when those VERY SAME INDIVIDUALS now want to pretend they had absolutely NO INVOLVEMENT in how we got to this mess!!! Stop pointing fingers and start looking in the mirror!

McCain first says the economy is fundamentally sound. Then he says we’re headed for a crisis and suspends his campaign to work on the bailout bill. Then disrupts bailout negotiations by injecting partisan politics into it. Then goes to the debate while thankful others work on the bailout plan. Takes credit on Monday morning for bailout plan. Bailout plan fails due to lack of support from House Republicans and who does McCain blame? Obama! Does McCain think we’re a bunch of idiots??? Only a non-thinking Republican would believe the BS that comes out of this mans mouth.

Hey Casey
Why don’t you google John McCain’s chief financial advisor, Phil Gramm, the architect of the deregulation movement that is the root of this problem.

WTF – In 1992, a majority-Democratic Congress “mandated that Fannie and Freddie increase their purchases of mortgages for low-income and medium-income borrowers.” Andrew Cuomo (Clinton’s secretary of Housing and Urban Development) proposed that 50 percent of Fannie Mae’s and Freddie Mac’s portfolio be made up of loans to low- to moderate-income borrowers by the year 2001 after ‘investigating’ Fannie Mae for racial discrimination. If you’re going to look back, keep going!

SoWhat – First off, you comments were about how the Republicans were responsible for this issue – NOT that both Democrats and Republicans were to blame, hence my comment. Now, for you ‘questions’…Look at McCain’s record (Public records are available for you to pull up). McCain DID has sponsored legislation – rejected by Democratic Leadership, in previous attempts to stem this issue. McCain DID identify the House was going to reject this (even though Pelosi, Obama, et al) kept stating they had it complete – McCain tried to pull Obama in to put COUNTRY First, but Obama felt better ‘calling it in’. WRONG. Now look at Obama’s record (it too is somewhat available – much less detail there because, heck, he’s spent as much time CAMPAIGNING as being a Senator). Nothing, nada, ditto on reform.

Dontfkthisup – what about Democrats (40%) who voted No to this Bill? Is it ‘Too Bad’ they don’t trust their own Party’s “Leadership”? Hmmm,you can’t really blame them for that!

Obama and the Democrats are responsible
for this economic crisis. Read this:
Frank’s fingerprints are all over the financial fiasco
By Jeff Jacoby
Globe Columnist / September 28, 2008
Email| Print| Single Page| Yahoo! Buzz| ShareThisText size – + ‘THE PRIVATE SECTOR got us into this mess. The government has to get us out of it.”
That’s Barney Frank’s story, and he’s sticking to it. As the Massachusetts Democrat has explained it in recent days, the current financial crisis is the spawn of the free market run amok, with the political class guilty only of failing to rein the capitalists in. The Wall Street meltdown was caused by “bad decisions that were made by people in the private sector,” Frank said; the country is in dire straits today “thanks to a conservative philosophy that says the market knows best.” And that philosophy goes “back to Ronald Reagan, when at his inauguration he said, ‘Government is not the answer to our problems; government is the problem.’ ”
In fact, that isn’t what Reagan said. His actual words were: “In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.” Were he president today, he would be saying much the same thing.
Because while the mortgage crisis convulsing Wall Street has its share of private-sector culprits — many of whom have been learning lately just how pitiless the private sector’s discipline can be — they weren’t the ones who “got us into this mess.” Barney Frank’s talking points notwithstanding, mortgage lenders didn’t wake up one fine day deciding to junk long-held standards of creditworthiness in order to make ill-advised loans to unqualified borrowers. It would be closer to the truth to say they woke up to find the government twisting their arms and demanding that they do so – or else.
The roots of this crisis go back to the Carter administration. That was when government officials, egged on by left-wing activists, began accusing mortgage lenders of racism and “redlining” because urban blacks were being denied mortgages at a higher rate than suburban whites.
The pressure to make more loans to minorities (read: to borrowers with weak credit histories) became relentless. Congress passed the Community Reinvestment Act, empowering regulators to punish banks that failed to “meet the credit needs” of “low-income, minority, and distressed neighborhoods.” Lenders responded by loosening their underwriting standards and making increasingly shoddy loans. The two government-chartered mortgage finance firms, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, encouraged this “subprime” lending by authorizing ever more “flexible” criteria by which high-risk borrowers could be qualified for home loans, and then buying up the questionable mortgages that ensued.
All this was justified as a means of increasing homeownership among minorities and the poor. Affirmative-action policies trumped sound business practices. A manual issued by the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston advised mortgage lenders to disregard financial common sense. “Lack of credit history should not be seen as a negative factor,” the Fed’s guidelines instructed. Lenders were directed to accept welfare payments and unemployment benefits as “valid income sources” to qualify for a mortgage. Failure to comply could mean a lawsuit.
As long as housing prices kept rising, the illusion that all this was good public policy could be sustained. But it didn’t take a financial whiz to recognize that a day of reckoning would come. “What does it mean when Boston banks start making many more loans to minorities?” I asked in this space in 1995. “Most likely, that they are knowingly approving risky loans in order to get the feds and the activists off their backs . . . When the coming wave of foreclosures rolls through the inner city, which of today’s self-congratulating bankers, politicians, and regulators plans to take the credit?”
Frank doesn’t. But his fingerprints are all over this fiasco. Time and time again, Frank insisted that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were in good shape. Five years ago, for example, when the Bush administration proposed much tighter regulation of the two companies, Frank was adamant that “these two entities, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, are not facing any kind of financial crisis.” When the White House warned of “systemic risk for our financial system” unless the mortgage giants were curbed, Frank complained that the administration was more concerned about financial safety than about housing.
Now that the bubble has burst and the “systemic risk” is apparent to all, Frank blithely declares: “The private sector got us into this mess.” Well, give the congressman points for gall. Wall Street and private lenders have plenty to answer for, but it was Washington and the political class that derailed this train. If Frank is looking for a culprit to blame, he can find one suspect in the nearest mirror.
Jeff Jacoby can be reached at jacoby@globe.com.
© Copyright 2008 Globe Newspaper Company.

Oh, and reaganfan, I don’t see Obama’s name mentioned anywhere in that entire diatribe you just pasted, so what’s with your lead-in sentence about Obama being responsible for this mess? Talk about lying and stretching the truth to make it fit your own idealogy!!

SoWhat – Wow! Your political Rant just changed my mind about who I’m going to vote for! NOT! LOL!! Whatever gets you through your day, though!

RUKiddingMe?? – When I said there was enough blame to go around I was responding to this previous post by Adam, “The do nothing Democrats! They should have done something long ago to prevent failures.”— And I stand by my statement that Reagan started down the road to deregulation. (Not a criticism -just a fact.) It is now to the place that the executive branch has overstepped their constitutional limits. I am a senior citizen and have always voted Republican but the party has sold out to the far right and I can no longer support them. This anti-Christ garbage being circulated, puting a nut like Palin on the ticket, paying for a war by borrowing money from every country in the world instead of raising taxes, flat out lying about the state of the economy and paramount, lying about this war. I think every now and then it is important to clean house – and I stand by my statemnent that it is time to “kick the bums out”. There needs to be a thorough investigation of Bush, Cheney, congress and everyone down the line to find out who benefited from these loans – they should then be sued, in the name of US taxpayers, to recover the money. I say, let a private group do the investigation with the understanding they can keep 10% of the money recovered if they can build a legitament case that stand up in court. No cost to the taxpayer and I bet we will find this goes to the very top of our government. I don’t exclude anyone.

Olivia, Please…no one reading your posts will buy any of that “I have always voted Republican but the party has sold out to the far right and I can no longer support them.’ BS. If you think lies will legitimize your comments, they don’t. If your liberal, fine, be liberal. You shouldn’t feel ashamed to admit it. But don’t expect me to buy that line anymore than I buy Obama’s…

Olivia…you’ve been Republican because your SOOO Pro-Life. But your bashing a pro-life VP pick over a Pro-Abortion Presidential candidate??? He voted against the born alive bill because it contradicted the woman’s original choice to abort! Get your principals in order before pulling this BS…

Bonnie in Colorado, you do know Clinton has been out of office for almost 8 years right? You also know that when he left the USA had a surplus right? You also know that the Republicans ruled for 6 years? Why did the wonderful Bush admin not do something, I mean Bush can do no wrong, and he did get the USA to do what he wanted anyway by invading Iraq. Is it not funny that when the Saving and loans took a dive guess who was at the helm and no the Banks taking a nose dive and who is at the helm again?

Stop pointing the blame at each other Three year olds know when to stop bickering and start working togther to solve a huge Problem. When will the “leaders” of America learn to lead us? We have got to show washington that we don’t care what party you come from as long as we see someone that will get the work done.

Rezko, you are raisis

That was stupid Rezko I mean where do you come off with the right what good are you doing or trying to do with this country at whole?

during the debate, McCain didn’t look Obama in the eye, well I wouldn’t either.
He was an ugly, angry gay halloween monster.
Who did his makeup? They should be fired! He was dark and sinister, those damn eyebrows and scowls.
He just lost all the old folks vote.
scary as hell!
yeah blobama looked like a black version of Gollum the evil one!
Then again Obama looked like a gay monster in drag with all of that makeup.
Scary … and it’s not even Halloween!

caught off guard and without a telepromper, Bucky stutters like Porky Pig on cocaine. And Michelle comes across as an angry militant racist gorilla.
don’t let these freaks anywhere near the white house

mccain blames obama for anything—however mr.mccain obama is not the cause for you being so dumb—-do you actually think the public are all idiots—–dont buy something you cannot pay for—stupid people cannot save for something but you can borrow and pay back double–what a bunch of credit card idiots.

nobody bails me out if i make a mistake—–and we are to bail out these so called professionals—-PUT THE THIEVES IN JAIL–IT IS EITHER THEY STEAL YOUR MONEY–OR AS OF NOW THE GOVERNMENT WANTS TO GIVE IT TO THEM——i have a problerm with that.

McCAIN lead the charge for the republicans. So how many Congressmen from Arizona (McCAIN’s home state) supported the bill? Zero, zilch, nada, none. How is that for leadership? He couldn’t even convince his own party. Now that’s leadership! NOT!

Send a message of reform to the GOP. Economic crisis, McCAIN got you into this mess.

I supported McCAIN in the primaries and expected to vote for him in the general election, but I have watched this man become a cynical old man before my eyes. Selection of PALIN, GIMMICK. His “suspending” his campaign, GIMMICK. His blaming Obama after first saying Obama hadn’t been in Washington long enough to have an impact, GIMMICK. This man has become a manipulative, cynical, liar.

Fauxbama was second only to the Senator from Countrywide Mortgage, Senator Chris Dodd (got a sweetheart mortgage from Countrywide, while Chairman of the Banking Committee) in money received from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
These two GSE’s were at the epicenter of the mortgage meltdown. And Obama’s economics’ advisors are two former Chairman of Fannie Mae.
When the regulators have their fat little fingers in the cookie jar, it’s rather absurd to blame deregulation.

Subject: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS?
CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS?
This is very interesting and we all need to read it from start to
finish and send it on to anyone who will read it. Maybe this is
why our American Muslims are so quiet and not speaking out
about any atrocities. Can a good Muslim be a good American?
This question was forwarded to a friend who worked in Saudi
Arabia for 20 years. The following is his reply:
Theologically – no. . . . Because his allegiance is
to Allah, The moon God of Arabia
Religiously – no. . . Because no other religion is
accepted by His Allah except Islam (Quran, 2:256)(Koran)
Scripturally – no. . . Because his allegiance is to
the five Pillars of Islam and the Quran.
Geographically – no . Because his allegiance is to
Mecca, to which he turns in prayer five times a day.
Socially – no. . . Because his allegiance to Islam
forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews ..
Politically – no. . . Because he must submit to the
mullahs (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of
Israel and destruction of America , the great Satan.
Domestically – no. . . Because he is instructed to
marry four Women and beat and scourge his wife when she
disobeys him (Quran 4:34)
Intellectually – no. . Because he cannot accept the
American Constitution since it is based on Biblical
principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.
Philosophically – no. . . Because Islam, Muhammad,
and the Quran does not allow freedom of religion and
expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist. Every
Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.
Spiritually – no. . . Because when we declare
‘one nation under God,’ the Christian’s God is
loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as
Heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in The
Quran’s 99 excellent names.
Therefore, after much study and deliberation….
Perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS
in this country. – - – They obviously cannot be both ‘good’
Muslims and good Americans.
Call it what you wish it’s still the truth. You had better
believe it. The more who understand this, the better it will
be for our country and our future. The religious war is bigger
than we know or understand. .. …
And Barack Hussein Obama, a Muslim, wants to be our
President? You have GOT to be kidding! Wake up America!
Obama even says if he wins the election, he will be
sworn in on the Quran—not a Bible!
Footnote: He was sworn in on the Quran for his current
office and he refuses to pledge allegiance to the United States
or put his hand over his heart when the National Anthem is
played! The Muslims have said they will destroy us from within.
Hello! Having a Muslim president would seem to fit the bill! Will
you trust this man with our national secrets?
SO FREEDOM IS NOT FREE.
THE MARINES WANT THIS TO ROLL ALL OVER THE U.S