By Natalie Gewargis

Sep 10, 2008 5:56pm

Obama on Letterman: If That’s What I’d Meant, Palin Would Be the Lipstick, ‘McCain’s Failed Policies’ the Pig

In an interview on the "Late Show with David Letterman" to air later tonight, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., answers some questions on the lipstick controversy.

Letterman asks Obama if he still thinks the Republicans are overreacting to his comments last night.

"Look this is … sort of silly season in politics –- not that there’s a non-silly season in politics," Obama says. "But it gets sillier, and it’s a common expression, at least in Illinois, I don’t know about New York City, I don’t know where you guys put lipstick on here."

To audience laughter, Obama says, "In Illinois, the expression connotes the idea that if you have a bad idea — in this case, I was talking about John McCain’s economic plans — that just calling them change, calling it something different doesn’t make it better. Hence, lipstick on a pig is still a pig."

"What I like about this scenario is because they -– the Republicans — demanded an apology," Letterman says, "so that means there had been a meeting at some point somewhere along the line (of) they got together and said, ‘You know what? He called our vice presidential candidate a pig.’ Well, that seems pretty unlikely, doesn’t it?"

"It does," agrees Obama. "Keep in mind that, technically had I meant it this way –- she would be the lipstick!"

The audience laughs, but Letterman is confused.

"You are way ahead of me," says the late night host.

"The failed policies of John McCain would be the pig," Obama says. "I mean, just following the logic of this illogical situation."

At another point, Letterman asks Obama, "Have you ever actually put lipstick on a pig?"

"The answer would be no," Obama responds. "But I think it might be fun to try."

– Jake Tapper and Sunlen Miller

User Comments

ZING!!!!!!

Posted by: Ryan C | September 10, 2008, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm

McCain’s failed policies? Like campaign finance reform, for example?

Posted by: jedclampett | September 10, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm

Obama has said that Palin has asked for a lot of earmarks, pork, whatever you want to call it and Palin owns the Lipstick word now, so why wouldn’t we think he was deliberate in his wording. Add that to his other phrase , “You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called ‘change,’ it’s still gonna stink after eight years.” He has been saying that McCain is Bushes third term and now they are taking over the word change and what do you have? A pig with Lipstick and an old stinking fish.

Posted by: Maria | September 10, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm

“McCain’s failed policies? Like campaign finance reform, for example?”
Umm ever hear of 527s or the fact that issue ad ban was found unconstitutional.
All McCain did was push the money in politics into another less accountable funnel.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 10, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm

This conversation is surreal.
Can you imagine a president having such a stupid conversation??
Obama needs to work on his defense.

Posted by: JA | September 10, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm

WOW!
Obama is in total meltdown mode now!
Obama keeps digging a deeper hole for himself!!
Pathetic!!
Barack is a sexist pig!!

Posted by: USVet | September 10, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm

Yeah there’s a lot of things they do in Chicago polits that aren’t going to fly this time around, like bullying your opponent out of the race.
We all know who you were talking about Barack or is it Barry?

Posted by: s.b. | September 10, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm

Go get ‘em Barack. Phantom insults, phony outrage.
Google: “Sarah Palin addresses the Alaska Independence Party.”
We might have our second secessionist Vice President!

Posted by: Maurizio | September 10, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm

Apparently Obama doesn’t need women voters…at all then. Since I support McCain / Palin, keep digging smart guy. Your ego was too big to pick Hillary and it too big to have simply apologized then and there.
Thank you DNC for backing Obama :-)
McCain / Palin 08′

Posted by: Obama_EmptySuit | September 10, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm

McCain rails against earmarks like they are all awful things when in reality, quite a few of them provide meaningful benefits for real people.

Posted by: johnTX | September 10, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm

Why is this a topic of discussion when people are losing their houses and men and women are dying oversees each day for this country? McCain is mudslinging to stay off message because his message is Bush’s message, and we all know how well that’s turned out. This silly stuff will die down in the next week or two and we can get back to the issues at hand. What’s wrong with this country and how President Obama is going to fix it!

Posted by: Jill | September 10, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm

Obama is in total meltdown. Between this, the Fowler comment and Biden saying Clinton would be a better VP, McCain has enough ammo for about 12 more commercials.
Someone needs to take charge of this campaign and quick. Axlerod has no idea what he is doing.

Posted by: Kris | September 10, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm

Obama says “She would be the lipstick?”
Is this any way to talk about the VP nominee of your opposition party? Is this any way to talk about an accomplished female governor?
Is this any way to talk about anyone by the nominee of the Democratic party?
Obama is showing that he lacks class.

Posted by: jack | September 10, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm

Randy Schueneman, Rick Davis, Phil Gramm, Charles Black….only a few of the lobbyists running McCain’s campaign who are putting their clients’ words in McCain’s mouth. So yeah, he’s the pig and they’re the lipstick.
McCain dumped his honor about the same way he dumped his first wife.

Posted by: kravitz | September 10, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm

Haha, great job, Obama. Total mockery is the way to go this one. Let the Reps wallow in the filth, lean on the fence and laugh at ‘em.

Posted by: joe | September 10, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm

Actually I disagree with Obama. If you were to take this metaphor to its logical conclusion, Palin would indeed be the pig, but McCain’s campaign would be the pig, not his policies. After all, McCain’s pick of Palin was an attempt to make his campaign “hip” and “new” and frankly, the most cynical thing he has done during his whole career.

Posted by: johnTX | September 10, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm

Obama opens mouth and inserts foot. What a piece of trash.
Obama’s district lost 11% of its jobs while he was there but he fails to tell voters that. And they need the National Guard to keep order. Boy, Obama is sure a leader.

Posted by: Mary | September 10, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm

Obama’s use of the pig as an illustrstion to show a FAKE CHANGE is brilliant and very appropriate. It has been use so many times. Even by Mccain himself. Because its capaign season that is why republicans are overly reacting. Making it an issue, because they have no issues to run on. Is this all they can offer? I feel that Obama is even kinder for using the pig. If republicans think Palin is the one being referred to, then they are the ones whose calling her a pig.

Posted by: SARAH-L | September 10, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm

Oh jeez…this is so ridiculous. Can you please talk about the economy, taxes, that Lehman brothers is going under, the big severance packages going to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac executives with TAXPAYERS money, health insurance, a 6% increase in unemployment, our failing education system, our falling apart infrustructure, the generals now agreeing that Afghanistan is worse off than they lead us to believe…anything other than a made up controversy like Obama using an very old, very common phrase. Its insulting and frankly, it demeaning to women that we’d find that offensive if McCant minions weren’t playing the media. And its insulting and demeaning to the press that you are all chasing this dog tail and pretending its news worthy. Its clearly just plain stupid.

Posted by: Suz in KS | September 10, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm

If John McCaint does not have the vigor to run his campaign and has to depend on a woman without nation or international experience for some mojo and invigoration of his campaign, then what does that tell the alert observer?
It tells you that if the OLD and incompetent McCaint makes it to the White House, then lobbyists will be running a McCaint’s White House in the very same way that neocons are running the administration of the INCOMPETENT bush, who is McCaint’s evil twin.

Posted by: Patriot | September 10, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm

Erg, I meant Palin would indeed be the lipstick and John McCain’s campaign would the be the pig.
I think this illustrates clearly why this metaphor should never be used by anyone. :)

Posted by: johnTX | September 10, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm

Some of you are so biased you don’t even know what’s going on. Obama is the one who raised the issue and then acted indignant that anyone called him on it. To go on Letterman’s show and continue the dialogue is just adding more fuel to the fire. He is doing this on purpose and I can only assume it is because he’d rather have this distraction than the gaffe he made on Sunday.

Posted by: Susan | September 10, 2008, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm

Oh great, a presidential candidate who think it would be “fun” to put lipstick on a pig. That’s sure presidential sounding.
Old Barry is getting a bit anxious.

Posted by: Walt | September 10, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm

A lot of undecided voters were leaning towards McCain and then he chose Palin and it was a done deal. Just look at the poll numbers and the number of undecideds are where McCain got the bump. I think it is a divide that will continue to grow if Obama keeps adding fuel to the fire. His glib talk and smiles worked in the primary, but I don’t think they will work any more.

Posted by: Susan | September 10, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm

There is no issue! This is made up drama from the GOP! He did NOT call Sarah Palin a PIG! If he did he would have said Sarah Palin is a pig in lipstick. But he didn’t.

Posted by: Joe | September 10, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm

I can see that Republicans do not get the joke. By claiming that Obama was refering to Palin, the insinuation then is that McCain’s policies is the pig and Palin the lipstick. Obama was trying to point out the illogical nature of this backward argument. LOl. Slow folks cannot keep up.

Posted by: Kevin | September 10, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm

I hear Heinz is about to introduce ketchup containers that look like lipstick tubes for hot dog lovers.

Posted by: kravitz | September 10, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm

South Carolina Democratic chairwoman Carol Fowler sharply attacked Sarah Palin today, saying John McCain had chosen a running mate ” whose primary qualification seems to be that she hasn’t had an abortion.”
This vile comment would not have been possible without Obama’s leadership.
Way to sink to a new low!

Posted by: cdo | September 10, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm

Why does the GOP call palin a pig then blame it on Obama?

Posted by: Joe | September 10, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm

Either way here, Obama looks dumb. Either, one, he meant it to be about Palin, and therefore, he’s low class; or, two, he was totally oblivious and used bad judgment when saying it!
But let’s dispense w/ the BS. Of course he meant it. And all you Obama Kool Aid drinkers trying to defend him know it too. Sad …

Posted by: D'Obama | September 10, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm

Remember Obama said:
Mcain’s confused.
Mcain Camp Said “Hey! your making fun of old people”
These are our issues, talk amongst yourselves..

Posted by: HolyGuacamole | September 10, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm

So, now Palin is lipstick. this only makes things worse — it is personal attack, very insulting to women who with open-mind, and are evaluating Palin on their own. There is no way Obama can win.

Posted by: amy | September 10, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm

Joe – do you really think that Obama’s choice of this particular saying and using the word “lipstick” wouldn’t be associated with Palin? I don’t think Obama is that stupid. He did this on purpose for some reason and if he’d stop talking about it or apologize, it would be over. Instead he continues to discuss it. He has an ulterior motive.

Posted by: Susan | September 10, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm

The 2008 presidential election is the saddest chapter in the Democratic Party history. The strongest and most qualified candidate, Hillary Clinton, was shoved aside to give way for the weakest candidate, Barack Obama.
As a staunch Hillary Clinton supporter who has full confidence in her abilities, it hurts me to witness the leadership of the Democratic Party handing the 2008 victory to the Republicans. Unfortunately, I, too, am one of the millions who will be voting for McCain/Palin for lack of a better choice.
What the Democratic Party and the media did to Hillary is such a disgrace. I am a middle-aged military man who saw my wife crying her eyes out the day Hillary dropped out of the race. My wife was crying not only because the most qualified woman candidate was pushed out of the race, but also because the Democratic Party’s real chance for victory was denied.
With so many questionable associations and shifting positions, I can not vote for Obama. Since I know what service to country is, John McCain will be my choice for president of our beloved country in November 2008.
I hope and pray that Hillary Clinton will run in 2012. She must! We need her to heal the severe wounds that the Democratic Party and the media inflicted on her and her supporters.

Posted by: Dwight | September 10, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm

Obama is DESPERATE for the spotlight to be back on him.
D E S P E R A T E!!

Posted by: Ginny | September 10, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm

Joe Biden, referring to Hillary, said “She’s easily qualified to be vice president of the United States of America and, quite frankly, it might have been a better pick than me, but she is first-rate.”
So, now we Biden admitting that Obama could have done better with his VP pick. Two things about this: first, this is one of many foot-in-mouth blunders we will see from Biden; and second, someone should ask Biden why Obama did not pick Hillary. Biden, being what he is, is likely to let slip that (1) Obama was afraid of her, (2) Michelle hated her, or (3) he asked but Hillary said no.

Posted by: David H | September 10, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm

Susan
Perhaps you should learn how to read and articulate. What Obama was trying to say is that based on the Republican logic, Palin would be the lipstick, which she isn’t because he was not talking about Palin at all. He explained that lipstick signified pretending that you are something you actually are not. Why should Obama apologize for something he didn’t say? Those that listen to him with an open mind understand what he is saying. Those like you who do not, come out with more outrage. So now the new outrage is that he is calling Palin a lipstick?

Posted by: Kevin | September 10, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm

Meh. If you were already against Obama because you think he is a Muslim or because you think blacks are scary or because you are a Bush supporter, then you’re probably going to see sexism everywhere and use it to hide your xenophobia, racism or outright stupidity.
On the flip side, if you’re for Obama because you think he’s cool or because he’s black or any other fluffy non-meaningful issue, you’re probably going to see racism everywhere to cover up your shallowness.
Both extremes are stupid. Unfortunately, both extremes make up a fairly large segment of our population. For this reason, I agree with Obama’s policy on college education for all. Obviously it is necessary to combat anti-intellectualism in our society.

Posted by: johnTX | September 10, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm

McCain used the comment ‘lipstick on a pig’ referring to Hillary’s health plan .. Obama used it as an attack on Palin. This is a Very unfair attack.

Posted by: Sue Cameron | September 10, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm

ISSUES, PLEASE TALK ABOUT THE ISSUES
Mcain is just trying to hide from the real issues facing our nation. Barrack is trying to get back to them and focus on the ideas.
Here come Barracks numbers, probably will end up higher than before the convention and all this talk about the pig’s lipstick

Posted by: Chipo1965 | September 10, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm

concerned in oh
so you really are a moron
first off its a saying… sayings are… well they are meant to be said… hence the title
the only person unaware of the internet is your guy mccain…
why you think all these things you keep posting are relevant to this election you must be a wealthy republican who is afraid because you know that mccain cant win on the issues…
which is true…
he cant win on the issues… and thats why they are making this about character and attacking obamas character..
its nothing new you do this every election cycle…

Posted by: Bhrandon | September 10, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm

sue cameron
please show me how he attacked palin with his comment?
go ahead show me please

Posted by: Bhrandon | September 10, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm

D’Obama
I agree with you to some extent. Obama shouldn’t have used that saying knowing that McCain is looking for any opportunity to play the sexism card. But having daid it doesn’t excuse the insanity of the Republican fabricated outrage. I mean, does a candidate now begin to censor every word they say because there si a woman on the tiicket? this is insane.

Posted by: Kevin | September 10, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm

ginny
how is mccain a strong leader what will he do for you?

Posted by: Bhrandon | September 10, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm

lololol Obama is doing just fine. He is doing the right thing, he’s staying focused on the issues.
Stay on Message! He will be fine.
Country First!
Obama/Biden 08

Posted by: bc46 | September 10, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm

Jake,
Your report on ABC News tonight was biased reporting in favor of Obama. You say that Obama’s lipstick quote was not meant to point to Palin. Then you say MAC has used the same expression therefore how Obama used it means nothing. WHAT? What has one have to do with the other? The audience took Obama’s words differently than you did.
I assert Obama carefully chose the words knowing he could “play” them with the knowledge that his cover could be (I’m sure his opp research told him so) MAC had used the expression before.
On the other hand, if your interpretation is correct, then Obama isn’t suited for the presidency. He suffers from foot in mouth disease.

Posted by: Halli Casser-Jayne | September 10, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm

ABC’s headline is misleading for this story. He did not say it the way the headline reads.

Posted by: Jerald | September 10, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm

HAHAHHA
This man is clueless.

Posted by: John | September 10, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm

Obama repeats oft stated farm slang.
concerned of OH accuses him of plagarism.
And even in its ridiculousness, that’s still a better argument than most other right wingers offer.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 10, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm

how can a saying that predates sara palin be a direct attack against her?
its like when he mccain camp freaked out over him saying hes lost his bearings…
someone who is a navy guy must actually know what bearings are even if he did graduate at the bottom of his class…
losings one bearings means you have lost your way..
losings one marbels is when they have gone insane

Posted by: Bhrandon | September 10, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm

As long as the McCain/Rovian campaign is lashing out and screaming about every perceived slight, THEY are the desperate ones.
This is gonna be a huge ground game, and Karl knows it.
Not. This. Time.

Posted by: bc46 | September 10, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm

I’m sure that when McCain called Hillary a pig back in October, 2007 he wishes he had gone on Letterman. Oh, my bad, when McCain used the expression “lipstick on a pig” the Democrats knew he was referring to Hillary’s health care proposal, and not her. All this phony, baloney indignation is just the same old McBush/Rove POLITICS OF DISTRACTION.

Posted by: mila | September 10, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm

If Obama had the judgment one would expect of POTUS, he would have quickly seen how this comment would be interpreted.
His friendly audience of supporters got it right away.
The man doesn’t handle pressure very well, I really want him far away from the White House.

Posted by: Terry | September 10, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm

Sue Cameron you are going to have to explain why what Obama said is different from what McCain said? The both used the exact same phrase in describing a candidates political position. How is this an attack and McCain’s is not?
This is classic Republican BS without the lipstick.

Posted by: Obamacan | September 10, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm

Another old expression goes “when you’re in hole, stop digging”

Posted by: highwayman | September 10, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm

Calling all Obama supporters. Stay on message, stay focused. Do whatever you can for the campaign.
We can do this, yes we can!
Palin is nothing but a distraction. John MCcain’s distorted, dishonorable ads are another distraction.
Country First
Obama/Biden 08

Posted by: bc46 | September 10, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm

I think the funniest thing is that both Obama and Biden voted FOR the bridge to nowhere. They even got a chance to vote to divert those funds to help after Katrina and they STILL voted for the bridge to nowhere.
Hypocrites.

Posted by: kris | September 10, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm

And this is the current state of our election. This is what we have been reduced to discuss.We have so much at stake in this election and this what we have been left to review / analyze. The funny thing is that so many people are responding to this stuff with so much passion. Is anyone concerned about the economy, crime, education or the war (s). Or is that stuff not as sexy as the lipstick, jet planes on ebay or the other “critical’ Palin concerns. This is sad silly stuff irregardless of ones party affiliation.

Posted by: Greg | September 10, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm

“lololol Obama is doing just fine. He is doing the right thing, he’s staying focused on the issues.
Stay on Message! He will be fine.
Country First!
Obama/Biden 08″…….What message? That McCain is more of the same? Exactly what does that tell us about the issues? What will Obama do in office? Make fun of McCain? If he wants to discuss the issues he can explain how he will fulfill the drawn out, fantasy list of things he will accomplish if elected. You remember? The list directly out of the party playbook. Where lollipops, money and happiness grow on trees if you will just elect the democrat. This guy calls McCain more of the same. Talk about the pot and the kettle. He is a boring rehash of the hugely unsuccessful and unpopular Carter administration. Truth be told he is so far off the message his ship is sinking and has been for weeks. This race is over unless his campaign does something drastic immediately. I can’t believe as he continues to drop dramatically in the polls you really believe he is ‘alright’. But hey, whatever helps you sleep at night.

Posted by: Dan | September 10, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm

The lipstick comment was a juvenile attempt to smear Palin. The McCain campaign and the media caught him. Now Obama is playing the “who me?” game. He is so immature. The DNC should be ashamed for putting him in front of the voters.

Posted by: Juju | September 10, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm

LOL! It’s obvious based on the comments in this thread that it’s the mouth-breathing McCain fans who are in meltdown.
Barack just owned you and your old man candidate.

Posted by: jefferson | September 10, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm

Obama is such a class act.
I feel the winds of change starting to whip up pretty nicely tonight.

Posted by: mgks | September 10, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm

Why can John McCain call Hilary Clinton a pig with lipstick and get away with it. And when Obama is talking about McCain’s policies, he is miss quoted as calling
Sarah what’s her name a pig with lipstick.I quote, “ENOUGH is ENOUGH”

Posted by: Gwen | September 10, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm

kris,
I know this might be difficult since the McCain campaign can’t seem to stay focused on FACTS, but you need to go find em when it comes to who voted for what on that bridge to nowhere.

Posted by: bc46 | September 10, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm

….I’m still trying to figure out Obama’s far fetched explanation of what he meant when he spouted on about pigs and lipstick…..
I think this is still another time when he should have preceded his comments with,”Let me make myself perfectly clear”….
even though he was magnificently obtuse!

Posted by: america*centrist | September 10, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm

No one actually believes that McCain/Palin would be better for this country than Obama/Biden. They all just follow blindly. It is pathetic how they all grasp to their selfish single issues…..
If anyone on here can give me two good reasons to allow 4 more years of this same crud (Bush) I will change my vote and vote for the Pig and the lipstick

Posted by: Chipo1965 | September 10, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm

this just in: a confused Bush tries on Laura’s lipstick

Posted by: get informed | September 10, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm

Again, McCain used the EXACT SAME SAYING about Hillary’s policies. It is a common saying. It is NOT a sexist comment.
Don’t get played people! They’re trying to distract you from the issues. McCain thinks the economy is fine the way it is. He should since his wife can afford $300,000 outfits.
Middle class people becoming homeless as they lose their houses that cost a fraction of the price of her outfit need to focus on the issues!
Obama has a plan. McCain’s constant focus on trivial things shows me he doesn’t.

Posted by: Independent08 | September 10, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm

I am seeing Obama, not the one high up there delivering good speeches. But a boy teasing a girl, and tried to get away by saying “nay,nay,nay”.
he is a 5th grader.

Posted by: amy | September 10, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm

“yes we can!” as spoken by Bob the Builder and co on the cartoons
‘Watch out, George Bush. Except for economic policy, health care policy, tax policy, education policy, foreign policy and Karl Rove-style politics … we’re really gonna shake things up in Washington,’”from a Washington post cartoon on Friday according to fox news website.

Posted by: Maria | September 10, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm

Ok Dan, don’t take it personal that we Obama/Biden supporters ignore your background noise.
You guys are the ones screaming and pulling your hair out lol
All the lies, just another distraction.
We choose to stay on message.

Posted by: bc46 | September 10, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm

The Democrats just came up with a tongue-in-cheek list of idioms that are off-limits, since Republicans are complaining so much about “lipstick on a pig.”
The list from the Democratic National Committee manages to incorporate criticisms of John McCain:
“A day late and a dollar short:” Unfair reference to Senator McCain’s plan to add trillions to the national debt.
“An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure:” Discriminatory attack against Senator McCain’s health care plan.
“All bets are off:” Prejudiced statement against John McCain’s plan to privatize Social Security and gamble American’s life savings on the stock market.
“When your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail:” Unfair attack on McCain for promising to continue George Bush’s disastrous foreign policy.
“Penny wise, pound foolish:” Unfair criticism of McCain’s shortsighted energy policy
“All hat, no cattle:” Bigoted attack against McCain’s lack of support for rural communities.
“All in a day’s work:” Biased attack on McCain’s record against organized labor.
“Birds of a feather flock together:” Unfair to point out that John McCain and Sarah Palin represent more of the same as George W. Bush.

Posted by: Love it! | September 10, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm

I think it is time for Mr. McCain to let Princess Palin speak for herself. If she has had her feelings hurt, she should stand up and say so.

Posted by: James | September 10, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm

“Calling all Obama supporters. Stay on message, stay focused. Do whatever you can for the campaign.
We can do this, yes we can!
Palin is nothing but a distraction. John MCcain’s distorted, dishonorable ads are another distraction.
Country First
Obama/Biden 08″
I know you are kidding about Country First and Obama/Biden… Neither fought for this country… Obama thinks only of himself. Everything is about him. If you dont think that, get ready for the bus since it will running everyone over. Problem is he just ran into a brick wall in McCain/Palin that has stopped him.

Posted by: Jeff | September 10, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm

When they revert to charges of insanity and more character assassination,.
I smell fear.

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 10, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm

I have watched ABC for years, but that is about to end. Having just watched your conversation with George where you agreed that the Lipstick issuse was not a big deal and McCain had used it before, I do not necessarily dissagree, but you ignoring the comment from the Democratic lead in the Carolina’s, “The only qualification palin has is that she has not had an abortion is all I needed to conclude that George and you are Democratic salesman and mongers. I think Sarah is great and I believe that you are an active part of the smear campaign. So much for ABC and any objective reporting.

Posted by: Jim Murphy | September 10, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm

Look at this guys, the nation is in a hubbub about lipstick. Isn’t that sad? Isn’t it sad that politicians and the mass media guide us into these dark corners of royal nonsuch? One side attacking and the other defending a comment that was in reality about the concept of changing many of our current policies and directions, but instead of talking about that, we argue about a damned metaphorical tube of lipstick. Sad.

Posted by: Edward | September 10, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm

Why is this headlines when it has just been disclosed that the Bush/Republican oil royalty program is full of corruption, and the oil companies have gotten away with billions owed to taxpayers?

Posted by: TAGILBERT | September 10, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm

To all you folks in the McCain inner circle who don’t get analogies and metaphors, we may need to clear up some confusion.
When folks refer to a ‘red herring’, it ain’t no fish they’re talking about.
When you hear ‘holy cow’, don’t assume there’re Hindus in the room.
When you’ve got either skeletons or an 800lb gorilla in your closet, there’s nothing to fear! It’s just a turn of phrase, you silly goose.
If y’all are planning to lead the free world, you might want to get McCain into a 4th grade English class first!

Posted by: mgks | September 10, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm

Again the democrats are running scared
as is obvious by the vitriol spewed here. No matter how you spin it, Mccain is the classier of two less than worth while candidates.

Posted by: Jenny | September 10, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm

Where are the real issues? when will there be topics that really deal with our lives discussed instead of the back and forth insults?

Posted by: mere | September 10, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm

Lol,
I think we should throw a welcome party for Bush to join us down here under the bus.

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 10, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm

It is clear from following this “issue” and reading these posts that we are living in a nation of citizens not intelligent enough to understand a metaphor. We will get the President we deserve, which will be the worst of the two options. Which one is the worst? The one America elects.

Posted by: GHale | September 10, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm

Your partisan reporting on this issue is disgraceful! There are those of us who believe that Obama’s remarks were directed at Sarah Palin and he is doing whatever he can to destroy her because she has changed the dynamics of the race. But you are as bad as NBC is your support of Obama and his candidacy. You slant your reporting so far left that it is disgusting. Where is the objective reporting?

Posted by: littlexman | September 10, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm

So now Palin is an ornament…

Posted by: FromHILLtoMAC | September 10, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm

Obama plans to return to the failed policies of high taxation coupled with an expansion of government spending.
Worse, Obama says he is absolutely committed to almost doubling the capital gains rate — something he will easily accomplish with a Democrat Congress.
In the coming months — when investors realize that Obama will raise the cap gains rate — there could be a stampede of asset sales as investors rush to take their profits now to avoid Obama’s doubling of the tax rates next year.

Posted by: Ann | September 10, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm

The problem with allocating the Federal taxpayers dollars elsewhere is that she got the money under false pretense in the first place. Sarah Palin claiming to need a new bridge built and where she planned to built it ended up being the biggest con job ever. Yet no one is discussing it. Why?

Posted by: mere | September 10, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm

McCain has used that expression many times himself but when Obama uses it, then they make a big fuss. This is just another tactic out of the dirty political playbook. Don’t get me wrong, Obama has done something similar. He suggested that McCain wants a 100 year war in Iraq. What McCain actually meant is to stay in Iraq for 100 years if really necessary, but for the time being, slowly draw down troops. However, the McCain camp really should cut the political drama if they still want the support of the American people.

Posted by: Andrew | September 10, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm

No Jeff, they haven’t, but I have, and still do.
I’m doing this for my grandkids, for my friends kids and grandkids.
I’m doing this for all those military folks overseas, my military family, that have been ready to come home.
This is about US, not sarah, nor the pig. This is about ALL the people suffering in this country. And who cares what color? We all bleed red!
This is OUR Country, so there is nothing wrong with us saying,
Country First!
Obama/Biden 08

Posted by: bc46 | September 10, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm

Jenny says “Mccain is the classier of two less than worth while candidates.”
___________________________________________________
I’ll have what your having. I could use an escape from reality……

Posted by: NMP | September 10, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm

TC,
Palin was late to the party. The phrase has been used often, by many during the campaign. She doesn’t get the executive parking space just because she’s a woman.
You Republicans need to get a few more women into office so you can get over the Chivalry thing.

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 10, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm

“Ok Dan, don’t take it personal that we Obama/Biden supporters ignore your background noise.
You guys are the ones screaming and pulling your hair out lol
All the lies, just another distraction.
We choose to stay on message.”…..And again I ask you, what message? Did you even read what I wrote?

Posted by: Dan | September 10, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm

McCain’s Camp is a bunch Hypocrites, i hope this Idiot doesnt get elected, bc if he is then we are all in serious trouble!

Posted by: Matt.G | September 10, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm

What I love is that even Fox News is calling this whole pig and lipstick thing a bullsh*t McCain tactic.

Posted by: James | September 10, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm

Boy, Obama is a gift that keeps giving. At this rate, McCain will not have to do much to win in November

Posted by: oisp | September 10, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm

Having been born and raised in So IL I can assure you it is not a commonly used phrase there…so maybe he should try again.

Posted by: samhiguchi | September 10, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm

Ann, high taxation is not good if there is fiscal responsibility. But unfortunately there has not been any type of responsibility in Washington the last 8 yrs. You retard, since our spending has gone up, our taxes HAVE to go up to cover this deficit. Please explain to me how I am wrong I would like to know.

Posted by: Citizen in FL | September 10, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm

Sigh. Looks like Fox News is standing up to this whole pig and lipstick issue and railing against the McCain camp for it.

Posted by: johnTX | September 10, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm

Quote: “On the other hand, if your interpretation is correct, then Obama isn’t suited for the presidency. He suffers from foot in mouth disease.
Halli Casser-Jayne”
If that’s the case, then neither is John McCain.

Posted by: purplehawk | September 10, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm

earthisnotflat,
I agree completely. I love how they also waste time talking about what a time waster it is.

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 10, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm

“This is about US, not sarah, nor the pig. This is about ALL the people suffering in this country.”
Tell that to the people waiting in line to buy an i-phone.

Posted by: Mack | September 10, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm

This is hilarious. McCain/Palin have no substance or plan for America so they start self inferring she is a pig. It only took 10 days for the GOP to show their true chavaunistic side.
The only like Palin because she seems like a guy. She shoots guns, she hunts, she likes the outdoors and she cowers to public opinion. I don’t know of any self confident woman that would hide her pregnancy for 7 months and then not feel the need to have more postnatal bonding than 72 hours. She did this because she feared what Alaskan’s might think.

Posted by: Rob in NC | September 10, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm

Lipstick discussion is NOT an issue that will help me get medical insurance. Lipstick discussion will not help stop FORECLOSURES. Lipstick discussion will not help fix the inner city schools education. Lipstick discussion does nothing to help stop leaving children behind. Lipstick discussion does not bring jobs back. Lipstick discussion does nothing for the economy. Lipstick discussion does nothing for the energy issues.

Posted by: mere | September 10, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm

Wow, without a teleprompter this guy is barely coherent.
Somebody thought this Chicago “machine” politician was somebody special?

Posted by: ragnar30066 | September 10, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm

mike zero zero zero, you might want to remember that without liberals, “Sierra” wouldn’t be up there debating Biden. The people who fought for women’s rights were considered “liberals” in their time. If not for them, Palin would be home gutting moose or something that night.

Posted by: mila | September 10, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm

Dan,
Senator Obama is talking about the issues that are important to the people in this country.
Senator McCain is talking about what? He’s offended from a perceived slight? He’s telling lies, and distorting facts.
Senator Obama is staying on the issues.

Posted by: bc46 | September 10, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm

Clearly when you see the tape, Obama is referring to Palin. The audience clearly gets the joke. That said, I don’t think its a big deal and she’s fair game.
PS- I don’t like either party but Obama’s tax and economic policies will lead us further into ruin.

Posted by: tp | September 10, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm

I’m a pitbull, no,..I’m a victim,..no really I’m a pitbull,..but then maybe I really am a victim.., but perhaps….

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 10, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm

“Why did he ship his kids off to private school and not try and change the failing schools in Hyde Park”
There’s nothing wrong with a Senators kids to go to private school. From a security/disruption standpoint alone it makes sense.
Look at the McCains. They felt so strongly about their children’s private education they made those schools the biggest recipients of largess from their charitable foundation.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 10, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm

Hmmm, I wonder if the GOP would give Obama flack if he looks at his watch during one of the upcoming debates??

Posted by: Paula | September 10, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm

Dan, great come back….point made

Posted by: Chipo1965 | September 10, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm

After exploring the context, I do not believe that Obama was referring to Gov. Palin. However having said that and judging by the audience response it certainly was taken as a Palin slam – probably because the “Lipstick” phrase was primarily associated with her. At the very least the comment was DUMB on Obama’s part. He should have known that the comment would be taken wrong – as I’m sure he did afterwards. He has lost many votes because of the backlash of Palin attacks, knowing this, I just can’t see Obama deliberately making that comment to hurt Palin.
McCain/Palin 08

Posted by: Manitu | September 10, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm

A “pig with lipstick” and an “old stinky fish” labled as change: These words are too much to dismiss as innocent words. It is obvious Obama’s audience interpreted his words as inflammatory and pejorative. I guess Obama’s own audience misunderstood him too.

Posted by: Benjamin | September 10, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm

So if the McCain camp uses the expression “that is the pot calling the kettle black”. Is that going to be taken as a racial comment? STOP THE MADNESSSSSSSSSS! Can we focus on somthing real PLEASE!!!! War, Economy, Fuel, Enviorment, Poverty, Education, pick one any one. When are we going to focus on these things. I don’t care about Palins religion anymore then I can about Obama’s. I care about the next 4 years. CHANGE PLEASE !!!!

Posted by: Jake | September 10, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm

What’s WRONG with us? What’s wrong with ABC News for having this nonsense as the lead on their web site? This is a discussion worthy of the greatest country in the world? A great country would not be distracted by utter nonsense – issued from either side. A great country wouldn’t have its citizens bitterly attacking each other like enemies across a disputed border. This story and many of these postings make me ashamed of my country. Is this really what we’ve come to?

Posted by: Joe W | September 10, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm

“Dan,
Senator Obama is talking about the issues that are important to the people in this country.
Senator McCain is talking about what? He’s offended from a perceived slight? He’s telling lies, and distorting facts.
Senator Obama is staying on the issues.”……..I do believe if you were paying attention this entire uproar was caused when Barack was discussing his opponents (about the only thing he has discussed since the RNC). So unless you think criticizing your opponents is talking about the issues I would say you are wrong.

Posted by: Dan | September 10, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm

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I do not own an Iphone. but I know 10 people so far with green cards who do. They have working visas to work in my country. Of course my husband, who is a United States American middle class worker lost his secure job to outsourcing. We are just Survyving on lower income from paycheck to paycheck, we can’t afford and do not want an Iphone.

Posted by: mere | September 10, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm

This is a discussion worthy of the greatest country in the world?
———
I’m afraid you may have answered your own question.

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 10, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm

If the lipstick fits, wear it!!!

Posted by: Oh Please! | September 10, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm

Did anyone actually understand the garbled explanation Obama was trying to communicate to Letterman?
I thought he sounded defensive but came across as offensive.
It made me apprehensive….
No comments?
Hmmmmm….

Posted by: lend an ear: | September 10, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm

Are you nit wits serious, with all of this smoke about insulting the republican party and Mrs. Palin? Obama did what he should have done, exposed this charade effort to deflect from the recent past. What past you may ask? Eight years of failure at the highest levels that leaves our reputation worl wide in tatters. You don’t think that what the world thinks about us matters, that’s the problem and has been for the duration of this fiasco. If this had happened on the watch of a democrat, you fools would be looking to impeach someone. And for the record tell those space cadets who bloviated about raising taxes and ruining America, Clinton did just that after studying the debacle that was Ronald Reagan and George Bush Sr., and started the greatest economic resurgance in 40 years, that’s fact.

Posted by: snow | September 10, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm

“I wonder why 0bama didn’t do anything like McCain did with his charitable foundation”
He didn’t marry into money like McCain did.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 10, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm

The real “lipstick on a pig” is the news media. People are hurting. They are losing jobs, pensions, health care and homes in a time when they are facing the highest inflation in 27 years and the highest unemployment in five. Big oil companies have corrupted the very Department of Interior group that handles the ten billion a year in oil drilling revenues which go to the government, and I could go on. And what is the media talking about? Lipstick on a pig. How many stories about Palin (who hasn’t even done one non-powderpuff interview). The media is the problem. The media needs to ask McCain-Palin, Obama-Biden where they stand on issues. Make this election about what is really happening to this nation which is the worst shape I have ever known it to be in. For the rest of this campaign, put aside the “lipstick on a pig” baloney and do what you are supposed to do.

Posted by: JB | September 10, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm

Every day that Obama spends trying to defend himself for some slip or slur, every day that he tries to put down or compare himself to Governor Palin, every day that Obama thinks he is running against George Bush is a day lost by the Obama campaign.
Every day the Democrats/Media keep Palin on the front page is a front page taken away from Obama.

Posted by: Zank | September 10, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm

“Methinks the lady doth protest too much”——Bill S.

Posted by: truth serum | September 10, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm

Sorry Dan, you’re making this out to be more than it should be.
Senator Obama was talking issues. He also made the point that McCain was trying to co-opt the change mantra. You know, that same message he has carried for the last 20 months. That one. McCain is pushing the same policies, thus the pig in lipstick metaphor.
Senator Obama is doing just fine.

Posted by: bc46 | September 10, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm

“Why is this a topic of discussion when people are losing their houses and men and women are dying oversees each day for this country?”
Because Obama has spent the last several days obsessing about the “Mayor of Wasilly” and the loss of his
“change” mojo. When you’re playing defense, you don’t talk about the “issues” so much.

Posted by: belloscm | September 10, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm

When you combine the audience reaction to the lipstick remark and add his remark about old fish, I think it’s obvious one remark was to Palin and the other to McCain. Put in another way, he’s either the dumb guy in the room who doesn’t get the joke, the only one who doesn’t get it, or he meant it as a smear. Either way, he looks bad.

Posted by: Lesa | September 10, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm

Actually Dan,
He was discussing his opponent’s POLICIES. McCain has taken a triviality and turned it into an issue. What a loser!

Posted by: Response | September 10, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm

Get lost Obama. You are an idiot.

Posted by: GetLost | September 10, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm

Obama the person of “change”, calls the great govenor of Alaska, a pig. This is the kind of “change” that has lost the election for “The One”. Obama and the media treated Hillary like a second class person. Obama would have to improve to be an elitist, with a foul mouth.
Palin Power !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Julie Sands | September 10, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm

Concerned,
Here is a story problem in Arithmetic
for you:
Mr. Obama was 27 when he did was an organizer.
Mister Obama is now 47.
Mr. Obamas children are under 10 years old.
QUESTION:
How old were Mr. Obamas children when he was an organizer?

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 10, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm

Concerned in OH
Obama’s church IS a charity. They do more charity work in south Chicago than just about anybody else.

Posted by: jock59801 | September 10, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm

A “pig with lipstick” and an “old stinky fish” labled as change: These words are too much to dismiss as innocent words. It is obvious Obama’s audience interpreted his words as inflammatory and pejorative. I guess Obama’s own audience misunderstood him too.

Posted by: Benjamin | September 10, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm

The stupid tripe and outright LIES coming out of the McCain campaign get more disgusting every day. If all they want to do is stir up idiotic drama, then try this on for size: John and Cindy McCain were having an extramarital affair together while he was still married to his first wife. And unlike McCain’s gibbering nonsense, that’s NOT made-up. It’s a FACT which McCain himself has admitted in his own words. How do all of you “value voters” feel about electing two known ADULTERERS and FORNICATORS into the White House? Let’s have a big headline ABC News story about THAT.

Posted by: Thomas | September 10, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm

The only people treating Hillary like a second class citizen are the idiots that think Failin’ will give them what they saw in Hillary.

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 10, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm

This is so stupid. Why are we discussing this. I am a female,and am sick of these female candidates making people walk on eggshells around them, having to micro analyze every single word that is said so they don’t seem sexist. (i.e. Hilliary and Palin.) It’s like you cannot question anything these people do, even when it’s pertaining to their future job and qualifications. We holler that we want to be treated equal, but when the tough questions begin to roll we holler sexism and cancel appearances.

Posted by: Saldanha | September 10, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm

Indisputable facts:
McCain used the phrase several times, as recently as refuting Hillary’s run for president. Was that a sexist attack on Hillary?
McCain’s former press secretary (female) wrote a book called Lipstick on a Pig – a phrase commonly used in politics to mean cutting through the spin.
There is a long, long list of Republicans and Democrats who use this phrase over and over.
This is made up outrage. I am a Republican and I get so mad at my party for not addressing issues.

Posted by: Katmido | September 10, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm

Oh good lord. Please Republicans, do not say “Palin Power”. Really. Especially in large groups of white people. Trust me on this one. I’m not claiming you meant it that way or anything, but just trust me.

Posted by: johnTX | September 10, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm

Well I’m not from Illinois and I’ve been hearing this expression off and on for years!!

Posted by: Paula | September 10, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm

One thing the McCain campaign has done is make sure everyone will remember Obama’s reference to his phony “change” rhetoric as no more than lipstick on a pig.

Posted by: jock59801 | September 10, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm

lol these are ALL distractions!
Who cares who’s black, who’s white?!
WE ARE ALL AMERICANS!
Go Obama, you are forcing them to lash out, with nothing!

Posted by: bc46 | September 10, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm

RYAN C:
“Look at the McCains. They felt so strongly about their children’s private education they made those schools the biggest recipients of largess from their charitable foundation”
______________
Yes, they were generous to those schools and continue to be so.
They were also generous to many many children who were desperately in need of medical help.
They gave to those who needed plastic surgery in order to lead normal lives, and even adopted a daughter, Bridget.
They gave not only of their money, but also of their time.
The percentage of their giving far outshines the paltry charity offers of Obama….. but one should never look even a small gift horse in the mouth, Ryan.
You should know that.
Obviously you don’t.

Posted by: lend an ear: | September 10, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm

“Yes, they were generous to those schools and continue to be so.”
Actually they stopped contributing as soon as the children moved onto other schools.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 10, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm

Obama, you can fool some of the people, some of the time, but not this time. You were caught, say your sorry and move on. Your other choice is to open your mouth and insert the other foot.

Posted by: martha S. | September 10, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm

What about immigrant votes? Wait and see America!

Posted by: Ebj | September 10, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm

Let’s argue some more about meaningless topics!

Posted by: johnTX | September 10, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm

this needs to stop. we are about 8 weeks away from the election and this is the pathetic crap we are judging our next leader on? what age are these people – 5? I can just see the debates -”YOU called my mooma a bad name…no, YOU called my momma a bad name.” STOP INSULTING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND TALK ABOUT THE ISSUES.

Posted by: allie | September 10, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm

Since we’re on the topic of stupid comments
You have to love the Democratic Congressman ON the FLOOR of CONGRESS comparing Obama to Jesus because he was a community organizer and Pontius Pilate a governor ( can we assume he is referring to Palin or is he talking about MCCain’s policies?) Outrageuos on multiple fronts the least being that JC was a community organizer not to mention he was the Son of GOD. Also, what ever happened to separation of Curch and State – oh that’s right it’s ok a democrat said it.
Finally, your South Carolina Chairwoman – the only qualification of Palin is that she didn’t have an abortion. You goota love it – keep it coming guys.

Posted by: TC | September 10, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm

“Keep in mind that, technically had I meant it this way –- she would be the lipstick!” What on earth does that mean?! Sounds like another sexist statement to me! Anyway, his audience understood him perfectly well – and he knows it! Just ask them! It is all code for sexism!

Posted by: Beckie | September 10, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm

This is exactly the problem with many who claim to be feminist. The concept of “protecting the little woman” is entirely anti-feminist, but there are women who want the best of both worlds, who want to pretend to be able to compete with the boys, but who – when the pressure gets tough – will say “Why are you so mean to a woman”? The Republicans are just proving that THEIR female candidate just isn’t ready for the hurly-burly of international politics. Certainly not ready to be one heartbeat away from the presidency.

Posted by: Walter Lee | September 10, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm

Debra,
I am sure that Bund progeny Sean Hannity will be spending every second talking about this.
But the fact that anyone on FoxNews is questioning this shows how utterly stupid it really is.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 10, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm

Obama has absolutely nothing to apologize to anyone for.
Now these nuts are trying to rephrase what he said to MAKE it about Palin. He’s on message. Go Barack! STAY on message.
Country First!
Obama/Biden 08

Posted by: bc46 | September 10, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm

USVet why don’t you say McCain is a sexist pig? He said this three times before. You are a gender baiter.

Posted by: Laron | September 10, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm

Poor Sean, he’s gonna bust a blood vessel.
lol

Posted by: bc46 | September 10, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm

McCain in nothing but a CLONE of BUSH and Palin is not far behind…200. million in earmarks for her alone….

Posted by: me | September 10, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm

How stupid does McSame think we voters are? He is pretending to be all upset over a term that he himself used no less than a 1/2 dozen times.

Posted by: con me not | September 10, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm

I need to find a “lipstick” charm to go with my “flip-flop” charm from the 2004 Election. It symbolized the Loser John Kerry and his flip-flops. This year I’ll be adding a “lipstick” charm to symbolize the Loser Obama. It will represent the demeaning of women by the Obama and the Democrats.

Posted by: Thanks Barry! | September 10, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm

In politics, when you are playing defense, you are losing. This was a major gaffe by Obama.

Posted by: John | September 10, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm

“McCain HAS used this phrase in regards to Universal Healthcare NOT towards a person (McCain prefaced he didn’t like to use the phrase too).”
I’ve seen the video.
He doesn’t preface it and he specifically mentions Hillary.
The audience laughs when he delivers the line.
I don’t think he was calling Hillary a pig because I know what the metaphor means.
Still it never ceases to amaze how Republicans like you (or whatever label you claim for yourself) will lie and think no one will expose it.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 10, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm

“Dan,
Senator Obama is talking about the issues that are important to the people in this country.”
Yes he likes to talk about things, although he is not very good at the follow through piece. The self-proclaimed “uniter” that hasn’t united anyone. Kind of like the compassionate conservative that we heard so much about.

Posted by: Mack | September 10, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm

Anyone who falls for McCains transparent attempts to creates some kind of outrage over obama’s remark have some serious mental issues. Do you people still believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny? Is the earth flat? Is the Moon made of cheese?? McCain/Pallin supporters are gullible and naive. Anyone who believes anything that comes out of their mouths you are just a sad. Or maybe they are just stupid.

Posted by: Kevin | September 10, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm

Obama understands right-wing culture and the effect that FOX and Limbaugh, etc have had on our politics. McCain is honestly, not-wishfully-thinking, playing right into Obama’s hands. What’s been Obama’s message? Change from the last eight years. What does McCain do? Manufacture phony outrage. Obama responds by showing the similarities with Bush-style politics. Rinse and repeat.

Posted by: Maurizio | September 10, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm

Obama looks less presidental, every day. I can see your not any different than a typical politician, maybe worse. Based on your words and actions of late, your going to lose by a landslide in November.

Posted by: Angie in Jacksonville | September 10, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm

Obama keep digging himself more into the hole..
I thought he had a better “judgment”! I guess even his “judgment” was over blown!!1

Posted by: Frieda | September 10, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm

Why can’t Obama just say he’s sorry the Republicans think Gov. Palin looks like a pig?

Posted by: october | September 10, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm

John McCain is surrounded by corporate lobbyists. Seven, according to The Times. If you think he has the guts to throw them overboard after the election you’re a dreamer.

Posted by: Steve from Danville | September 10, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm

Obama cannot win on the issues, only uneducated and unsophisticated, cannot-see-big picture dumb liberals would embrace his socialist , do-nothing policies. That is why he only agreed to 3, instead of 10 debates with McCain. His policies on taxes, healthcare, education, you name it, all big losers. Empty suit.

Posted by: Pichu | September 10, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm

It is pretty obvious that Palin’s daughter would have benefited from some sex education, isn’t it? The GOP is about at the worst I have ever seen them, they are the meanest, the most ignorant, the most cut throat bunch there is. McCain and Cheney have both used that expression, to loud guffaws from the right. What do you think their reaction would have been if it had been Obama’s daughter who was pregnant? There is no responsiblity, there is no one accountable for what they have done to our country in the past eight years and they are all in denial, and no George, that isn’t a big river in the middle east! Voting based on faith is what they do over there, let’s try to remember what being an American means. Every thing is not a moral issue. People are not evil because they don’t believe the same way you do. How can an administration like McCain/Palin ever govern our country with an unbiased, fair and realistic hand? Get a grip people. VOTE FOR OUR LIVES and the lives of our kids….how about an apology from GW for driving this country to the verge of a depression? Yeah right, rule number one with the GOP is never admit you were wrong!

Posted by: Allison | September 10, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm

I am a republican and very very conservative and above all woman who supports McCain/Palin, but this accusation from the McCain camp is by far the most absurd thing I have ever heard!What a turnoff!I have to have faith that McCain is not comfortable with this comment or the ads that followed. Our republican party has single handedly made this historic moment a kindergarten circus. Please let focus on ISSUES!!!! Not “POW” not “earmarks” ISSUES!! I hate admitting this but Obama has outlined issues alot more thoroughly than McCain has. I want to here more from him and Gov. Palin. I must say that her constant attacks on our opponent, reasonably questionable claims of “bridge to nowhere” etc, her redundant speeches, and lack of submitting to one on one interviews with no script is turning me off. Please lets not drop the ball reps. When our children look back on this in their history books, news etc, they are going to look at this like we do on segregation before the civil rights movement. SILLY! Where is the change Reps are promising us? This looks like the same old same old cheap campaigning tactics.I am deeply concerned that in the long run this will haunt us and Obama will surprise us with him taking over the white house…McCain/Palin 08

Posted by: Jusie | September 10, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm

Politicians exaggerate or sidestep issues but a litmus test of their viability is whether or not a candidate blatantly lies, promotes falsehoods and fabrications. McCain does all three, frequently, but attempts to wrap himself in the cloak of honor. His conduct would result in an expulsion from any of the military academies. It is a disgrace and more and more John becomes a man without honor.

Posted by: Mike | September 10, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm

If it is a common expression for Obama; when was the last time he used it before yesterday?

Posted by: irma | September 10, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm

I notice it was Former Gov. Swift
who made the first statement about
the pig. How ironic

Posted by: spacerook1 | September 10, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm

a McCain presidency may result in us losing our European allies. We will be fighting wars by ourselves. A McCain administration will not receive much help from the outside so expect a draft. Most world leaders are disgusting by our big stick government to date. China already owns us with all the loans we borrowed. Foreign countries are buying our banks. G_d knows who Russia is teaming up with. India is getting stronger, and I know they’ll get more of our jobs with a McCain presidency. The US is broke. We have no money to support US bully war tactics.
China owns us, let’s face it. Communist China at that. US is no longer #1. What happens to us when China wants to collect on that debt?

Posted by: communist | September 10, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm

McCain/Palin on sexism? Stones. Glass houses.
The end.

Posted by: Danny | September 10, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm

Obama doesn’t look very presidential lately.
What a big joke!
If Obama is so big on change, then why hasn’t he made any changes yet? Palin and McCain both have.

Posted by: kathy | September 10, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm

Obama has no ability as a statesman. As soon as he is not getting his way he resorts to childish schoolyard behavior stuttering his way along. This is not the leader for America. He promotes divisiveness and has no intention on being an agent of unity. He only wants to take apart Gov. Palin. How pathetic.

Posted by: bertrand | September 10, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm

And now we already see Iran and Venezuela teaming up to make sure we pay high gas prices.
We are the big bully.

Posted by: bc46 | September 10, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm

Elliot, you obviously need a new glasses prescription.

Posted by: Kitty | September 10, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm

The Bounce is OVER??
WHAT???
PALIN!!!!, Yes People, WE HAVE PALIN!!!
Soon the line will be ‘that dog don’t hunt’
Call it sexist if you like – i really don’t care.

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 10, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm

Well, Obama’s democratic colleague Missouri’s congressman use lipstick to refer Palin on the same day, his audience laughed loudly as taking it as for Palin, he is the only one did not get it.Because he just know how to beat around the b(B)ush on issues and running this election.

Posted by: tim | September 10, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm

Obama could care less about Palin.
This is not about Palin, its about WE the people.

Posted by: bc46 | September 10, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm

irma
Obama has used the expression before, long before anybody had ever heard of Sarah Palin.

Posted by: jock59801 | September 10, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm

bc46,
If you want to see who is squeezing you on gas prices – check out the 4X tax that Alaska puts on oil exports.

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 10, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm

John McCain is spending a lot of money to make himself look bad. Palin still isn’t taking questions after their campaign speeches. What’s up with this plan.

Posted by: Sharonkathleen | September 10, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm

Leonard, what I see TODAY is Iran and Venezuela trying to make sure we pay high gas prices.

Posted by: bc46 | September 10, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm

This story is all too funny! I even laughed at the picture, like something out of National Lampoon. But jokes aside, I’ll try to be somewhat serious. “At first I liked Obama’s views on how this nation would handle the Iraq situation, but not anymore. I changed my mind about him. I’m not going to vote for Obama because she called Sarah Palin a pig! I’m going to take all my marbles and go home! Boo-hoo-hoo-hoo!”

Posted by: em | September 10, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm

“a McCain presidency may result in us losing our European allies.”
At the first sign of trouble they’ll be back. You can count on that.

Posted by: Mack | September 10, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm

At this point you right wingers can have this country. Its clear that there are a lot of you who just do not want Obama as your president. So here’s to john mccain and sarah the barracuda winning another election for the good ole republican party. Good job America.

Posted by: themediasucks | September 10, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm

A jackass in a business suit with a degree from Harvard is still a jackass. It is the maturity and mindset of the animal.

Posted by: Martin | September 10, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm

Kitty:
“Gibberish” isn’t an argument, its… uh … “gibberish.”
Google: Sarah Palin addresses Alaska Independence Party. Seccssionists for McCain!

Posted by: Maurizio | September 10, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm

Just when you think Republican political cynicism can’t get any lower. Between this kind of cynicism and real hope, I opt for hope. Obama/Biden 08

Posted by: Mark T | September 10, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm

Obama – Graduated from Harvard Law School at the top of his class. Taught a class in Constitutional Law. Senator for Illinois.
Palin – Hockey mom, PTA mom, Mayor of a hick town, Governor of a State with no people. Graduated with a Degree in Journalism after changing colleges five times in as many years. Curerently under investigation in Alaska for Abuse of Power. Tried to cover up her daughters teen pregnancy by forcing her “suspected” baby’s father to marry her befor her RNC appearance. A compulsive liar with delusions of grandeur.
John McCain – Veteran of the Vietnam War. He destroyed five planes during his short stay in the military. Was shot down in a plane and was held captive. Blah, blah, blah…
I’m voting for Obama. The more I know about the Republican candidates the more I dislike them.

Posted by: Mike | September 10, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm

I can see where people might think it was a direct comment on Palin- considering how much PORK she and Alaska cost the American Tax Payer! If she can’t handle an old chestnut like this, she really is not ready for prime time in Washington. Does she plan to live in Juneau and charge us for her nights at home and travel expenses?
Probaly!

Posted by: Byram | September 10, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm

Sorry Obama . . . you can issue dictums from on high to your mindless cult but the rest of the country will make up their own minds and decide when it’s over. Go ahead and pedal your garbage to the mindless masses but the rest of us will take a pass.

Posted by: rplat | September 10, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm

Dems just can’t get enough of Governor Palin. They keep begging for her to do an interview all the while saying Obama should stay on message and not be distracted. Which is it?

Posted by: Kitty | September 10, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm

Dem Female, for everyone you work on for him to lose, WE work to bring more to Senator Obama. So have it.
Contrary to what Davis said, we’re gonna make sure this campaign remains about the issues. The issues are too important to be distracted by animals, lipstick, and liars.

Posted by: bc46 | September 10, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm

“When Obama refereed to Palin as a pig today, he essentially called all hockey Moms pigs.” No he did not. But YOU are making out they are dimwits.

Posted by: Mark T | September 10, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm

WOMEN, DO YOU NOT GET IT???!!?? There is definitely sexism going on, but it’s the McCaine camp using it against ALL women regardless of their party. McCaine camp “If we put a woman on the ticket, it doesn’t matter who, the women will support her. They won’t look at the issues.” The McCaine camp did it again with the Lipstick/Pig comment. “If we say Obama meant Palin, the women would get up in arms. They’re too stupid to think otherwise.”
Women if you don’t see if for yourself, then open your mind and do your own research.
I hear women saying they have a lot in common with Paliin. Really? In what way? I was stunned when Palin’s closest friends on Good Morning American weren’t sure if they would be voting for McCaine/Palin. I couldn’t believe it. It made me take a step back and ask, what do they know that I don’t know? I realized I didn’t know anything about her. I only know that she delivered a great speech that was written for her by the McCaine camp. I only know she keeps saying the same things over and over at every McCaine stop. It’s as if she’s just a puppet, saying only what she’s told to say. Cindy McCaine is at least given the privilege of using her own words.
Women, whether you vote for McCaine or Obama, let it because you agree with their stance on the issues and not just because Sarah is a woman. Your vote should be earned and count for something.

Posted by: Carol | September 10, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm

I cannot believe the trash talking that goes on at this site. What a disgrace to the Founders of our country. We should be writing about education, wars, peace, jobs, economy, health care. Get a life you dumbos. I got sick to my stomach reading the postings.

Posted by: Backwoods Bob | September 10, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm

Atrocious! I’m voting for Sarah. Be a man and apologize.

Posted by: Deborah Harry | September 10, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm

My wife said at dinner putting lipstick on our dog Lucy would make her a really pretty dog. I agreed.

Posted by: Bruce | September 10, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm

I think Obama took a risk in saying it. McCain’s numbers are going up, Obama’s interviews were getting luke warm reviews, something had to shake. Unfortunately, the risk he took was bad because women have become sensitive to all the female bashing coming from a camp that shouldn’t be bashing anyone. It is the Civil Rights Party. He bombed a whole village to get at the target. This also tells me that Obama is not sensitive to the fact that women are rising against the blatant sexism that permeates our society and he as well as the Republicans are the reason.

Posted by: irma | September 10, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm

McCain and Palin are an extraordinarily scummy pair – God help America should this appalling, woefully ill-prepared duo be elected in November…

Posted by: Steve Schmidt | September 10, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm

There is nothing for him to apologize for. So go find another distraction, this one is closed.

Posted by: bc46 | September 10, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm

Obama is not right for this country Please everyone who wants our country save Vote for John and Sarah

Posted by: Vickie | September 10, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm

Obama does have a good point: even if he were actually referring to Palin, she would be the lipstick, not the pig.

Posted by: jock59801 | September 10, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm

Did anyone see how the audience reacted as Obama was saying the “pig and lipstick” comment? They were already laughing as he was saying it… what do you think they thought of first when he was saying it?

Posted by: Keli | September 10, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm

Kitty: what? I’m rubber and you’re glue nyah nyah nyah
Sounds like McCain. Wheels are coming off the Republican Party.

Posted by: Maurizio | September 10, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm

To Paul Mitchell:
Here in the south it’s only good manners to apologize for the other guy’s mistake. Now, you take care of that knee, bless your little heart!

Posted by: October | September 10, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm

Pay attention, the next president will be sending judges to the supreme court. Do you want Mcsame and Palin to make those decisions for you? Watch out if these guys get in. Vote for real change and on issues. We want a president who would invest in technology.People do you realize “drill now” will not work in the short term. It will be 5 to 10 years if actions are taken today to drill. Don’t be naive with MCcain’ election promises. This POW can not deliver. Vote for obama / biden where experience counts and future will be brighter. Don’t compromise your kids future with this war monger maverick mcsame.

Posted by: silkwool | September 10, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm

this is the link to the state of alaska check book. it was put in place by governor palin in her effort to promote open and honest government. wouldn’t you want to have the same in washington dc.
how ever you might feel about governor you must admit that this is as about as good a reform as you can get. imagine what the people would do if they have access to the check book of the federal government.
take a look and make an inform decision for yourself without the talking heads.
http://fin.admin.state.ak.us/dof/checkbook_online/index.jsp

Posted by: t mcgrane | September 10, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm

Backwoods Bob
At least it keeps them off the streets.

Posted by: jock59801 | September 10, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm

Why has no one except Chris Matthews bothered to look up the number of times John McCain used this phrase – once even in reference to Hillary Clinton’s healthcare plan? We could end this manufactured controversy and focus on the economy, education, and foreign policy – issues that really matter. Liberal bias? Right. Also – I’m a woman and I wasn’t offended in the slightest. It’s a fairly common expression.

Posted by: Kate | September 10, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm

McCain, rather than backing off when called on the lipstick on pig false umbrage gambit, doesn’t back off. Rather, he dramatically ups the ante with the false You Tube video.
Gutsy? Stupid? REALLY STOOOOOPID? We will see.

Posted by: ToastOnDayOne | September 10, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm

So all hockey moms are pit bulls, only that they have lip stick on! And no one complains. But why are they not bitches with lipstick, but BULLs? Very interesting!

Posted by: Oha | September 10, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm

This nation has the most ignorant and stupidest voters. Democrats, Independents and Republicans (although I must say a vast amount of them are Republicans). In fact they (the Republicans) are the nastiest party ever! I’m just going to reiterate what Dennis Kuncinich said at the DNC ” Wake up America, wake up!!” Just snap out of it and think about what has happened to our country with the Republicans in office!

Posted by: VioletDragon | September 10, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm

This type of fake out is not new for Obama. What he does is create a fake premise, i.e John McCain’s campaign and then goes on to insert the blow that he wants to create an uproar so he can stand up in fake righteous indignation. He did it with Bill Clinton when he praised Reagan’s administration as having changed the trajectory of politics unlike President Clinton. Yet everyone attacked Clinton for objecting to his analysis. Clinton bit and I can’t blame him. Clinton knew he had been played so Obama then said to his press corp that he was vetted but you could back up a truck and unload it with the unvetted Clinton baggage. The Clinton’s let it go. Rezko, Rev. White, Ayers, etc., etc. haven’t even come out yet. Since I had studied Obama for over a year I thought “Well what a hypocrite Obama is because the Clinton could say a lot about him. That is what he wanted them to do so he could try to make it look like persecution. They didn’t give him his way this second time denying him his righteous indignation.
In this campaign people like to use the phrase “Code Words”. I assume Obama must think women are stupid by thinking we didn’t get the Palin correlation. Her lipstick phrase was played daily multiple times. It’s next to impossible not to draw the two together. Unlike John McCain “Lipstick nor Pig” was being used with great repetition by the press or at all. It was a random remark against my choice for the nomination. But let’s assume Obama wasn’t smart enough to pull the two things together, well then I even feel worse that the Democratic Party made him our nominee. I didn’t think that was possible. A word for Obama, the people in your audience got it, countless women got it and millions of people came to the same conclusion. If you are feeling Swift Boated from this then put all the millions of people who perceived it this way in the Swift Boat category. Just remember that includes a lot of your supports.

Posted by: Julie | September 10, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm

Bambi is crashing on the Intrade Future Market. It is as though someone stuck a needle to a speculative bubble and it is bursting.
Methinks the public is beginning to grasp the fact that the presumptuous emperor has no clothes.
Sarah Palin is the “child” that cries out “But he has no clothes!”

Posted by: bebe | September 10, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm

this is what the McCain camp wants to talk about?

Posted by: rst | September 10, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm

You’ve got to be some kind of idiot to twist Obama’s remarks this much to convince yourself that he was somehow referring to Palin as a pig! Come on
Republicans are so used to slinging mud and rolling around in their own garbage that naturally their ultra-sensitive to any pig-related remark.

Posted by: david armendale | September 10, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm

“Why has no one except Chris Matthews”
You lost me at Chris Matthews. Didn’t he and Olbermann get demoted? Maybe they can go work for the dailykos.

Posted by: Mack | September 10, 2008, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm

Kitty: LOL. “Too wordy” = “actually says things.” But I understand, if the election isn’t about phony outrage and gutter politics then McCain loses.
Google: Sarah Palin addresses Alaska Independence Party.
Now THAT’s gibberish!

Posted by: Maurizio | September 10, 2008, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm

bruhman—we also know what he did on the forestal—–and that is not funny.

Posted by: rodney | September 10, 2008, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm

If Palin is a conservative CHRISTIAN she should not even be wearing Lipstick.
In addition, her family should come before her career. It’s in the BIBLE, please read:
“You wives will submit to your husbands as you do to the Lord. For a husband is the head of his wife as Christ is the head of his body, the church; He gave His life to be her Savior. As the church submits to Christ, so you wives must submit to your husbands in everything”
(Ephesians 5:22-24).
Conservative CHRISTIAN’S believe this to be GOSPEL.

Posted by: Tony | September 10, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm

Public: We are numb and empty.
Campaigns: The Other is a decadent beast.
Public: We will feign outrage to alleviate boredom.
Campaigns: You will vote as predicted.
Public: The alternative is unthinkable.

Posted by: Sarah | September 10, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm

It’s really come to this? With all the problems we have in this country? The “lipstick controversy”?
The Republicans don’t have record to run on so they run all over their opponent.
I like Obama. He has a sense of humor. And unlike me, he takes these attacks in stride. I’d never survive. My skin’s too thin.

Posted by: cincyr | September 10, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm

So Obama makes this comment, one of his supporters in the US Congress says that Sarah Palin is a governor and so was Pontius Pilate, and a Democratic state chair says that Palin’s primary qualifications is that she has never had an abortion. These are the different and new politics Obama has been promising? I would rather the old way of politics thank you.

Posted by: Eric | September 10, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm

Maurizio, you actually have the audacity to think you get to decide what people will base their decisions on in this election. You don’t.

Posted by: Kitty | September 10, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm

PORK and Palin do go together- she is from Alaska the biggest pork barrel in the Nation! She says no thanks and then Keeps the money- HEY! Give back the 200 Million dollars lady- you got oil money to pay for your state and you don’t need my tax money. Like Obama says- Republicans can not run the country but they sure know how to run a bully campaign. They can’t get Obama on the issues, they ruined this country and they lied and distorted so all they have is lipstick on a pig. If the lady can’t handle this, maybe she isnt ready for the Washington BIG City. Get real-I have seen and heard much worse about Clinton and Obama from the Republicans- when it suited them. Stick to the issues, folks!

Posted by: Byram | September 10, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm

Concerned–it means (1) the issue is still in play, and (2) reflects that the closer we get to election day the harder it gets to replace Palin no matter how bad it gets.
By the way, how’s the Biden withdrawal market looking? Oh that’s right, there isn’t one.
Scoreboard. Or more appropriately, judgment.

Posted by: ToastOnDayOne | September 10, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm

Explain away, Barack. You got it nearly right. The lipstick/pig remark was for Palin (sexism) and the old fish in newspaper called change was for McCain (ageism).

Posted by: Tracy Lynn | September 10, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm

It looks like the fake Obama has been opposed. He flips on every issue, from Iraq to campaign finance, FISA to Nafta, Wright to Rezko, Hillary to Bill. And now, he implies that Palin is a pig, now he flips that she’s a lipstick. Obama is smearing with lipsticks.

Posted by: young_voter | September 10, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm

McCain owes the American people an apology for making “lipstick” an issue. When will the McCain/Palin ticket begin talking about the issues that matter?
7 Years of war
4155 American Military deaths
1 Million + foreclosures
8 days of Sarah Palin avoiding the press.
Let’s talk about the issues.

Posted by: G Scott Barrett | September 10, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm

What was the first thing that popped into your head when you heard Obama say “You can put lipstick on a pig……….”

Posted by: Maria | September 10, 2008, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm

Kitty-
People will decide this on the issues, and that means Obama will win. That’s my point. Spare me the phony outrage. Give me a counterargument, or perhaps that would be “too wordy”?

Posted by: Maurizio | September 10, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm

McCain would rather talk about anything EXCEPT the issues. Because he’s wrong on every one. Now he’s hiding behind Palin’s smoke screen. Sooner or later she’s going to realize that she’s been used as a gimmick, like Romney and Lieberman during the conventions. When she realizes she’s been used a prop it will get very ugly for McCain.

Posted by: Steve from Danville | September 10, 2008, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm

Why can’t Palin defend herself?
I thought she was a pitbull.
Hillary wouldn’t take this from a man…

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 10, 2008, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm

I would like to know how McCain/Palin plan on paying for “Their’s and dumb dumbs War? Maybe with all their tax cuts they can make disappear. LOL

Posted by: Mike | September 10, 2008, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm

I want to see fish with lipstick,
but that’s just My thing.

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 10, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm

Obama and team are quick to accuse everyone of racism, going so far as to put words into others’ mouths, but when they make a veiled slight we’re not supposed to think it’s contrived. Please! Obama painted Clinton as a racist. Clinton said it’s a “fairytale” Obama got this far referring to his “tissue-paper thin resume” (NY Post) not anything about race. The lipstick comment was 100% planned – the campaign had it as a new jab in the rally speeches. Biden had a similar lipstick line the same day. These people know exactly how to make a jab and then whistle that it wasn’t them, you can’t prove anything. I don’t trust or like Obama at all and I’m not dumb enough to think someone who was a committee organizer when he was 25-27 should tout that as major experience. The only other experience he has is voting present 135 times in the state senate and running for president as soon as he got into the US Senate. John McCain, in contrast, has a history of speaking up for what he believes in and surviving being a POW for 5 and 1/2 years and coming out to live a healthy and successful life committed to our country is the leadership our country should be proud to call our own.

Posted by: MB | September 10, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm

I agree with you, Kitty. The “outrage” is purely contrived. Nevertheless, if thinking people decide this on the issues, Obama will not win. For your own sake, pray the American people are stupid enough to be charmed by his charisma enough that they don’t look at his policies.

Posted by: Truth | September 10, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm

Obama’s been a gentleman with respect to Palin and even condemned the press going after her family and deserves the benefit of the doubt here. Also, how thin skinned of McCain and he wants to be president?

Posted by: jackieaxe | September 10, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm

Well butter my butt and call me a biscuit! I am a lifelong resident of Illinois and can’t say I’ve ever heard the phrase about a pig in lipstick. Maybe it’s a Chicago saying…

Posted by: Illinois | September 10, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm

Joe Biden today: “Hillary Clinton is as qualified or more qualified than I am to be Vice President of the United States of America. Let’s get that straight. She’s a truly close personal friend; she is qualified to be President of the United States of America. She’s easily qualified to be Vice President of the United States of America and quite frankly it might have been a better pick than me, but she is first-rate.” L O L

Posted by: Tia | September 10, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm

McCain can’t remember how many houses he owns.. McCain can’t use a computer…McCain doesn’t know what kind of car he drove last year… can anyone explain how he won the freaking nomination? Limbaugh was right when, 6 months ago, he called McCain a mush-brained wimp.

Posted by: Steve from Danville | September 10, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm

Clearly, the crowd understood that the pig/lipstick & fish/newspaper analogies were aimed directly at McCain-Palin. The crowd thought they were funny. So be it. Why doesn’t Obama just man-up and admit it? Or, would such courage be “above his pay grade?”

Posted by: Bob C | September 10, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm

Not sure everyone was paying close attention, even you Jake, but the way that I see it, Barack just gave away his hand on Letterman on national TV. In explaining that “McCain’s failed policies would be the pig and Gov. Palin would be the lipstick” he just ADMITTED that he WAS referring to Sarah Palin as the lipstick. This is all very subliminal and Freudian, but that is exactly the way that Sen. Barack Obama operates. Only this time, on national TV, he showed his hand. There is just something “not quite right” about this guy. I watch and listen to him and the quote, “Pride goeth before the fall” keeps springing to mind.

Posted by: PhillyPaul | September 10, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm

You know what the difference between George Bush and Sarah Palin is? … Lipstick!! Let’s not put more of the same in the white house. America needs a new direction and the Palin-McSame ticket will not deliver that.

Posted by: otoole | September 10, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm

I will tell you one thing.. as an owner of a small business all you Dems just be ready for the unemployement rate to rise when Oboma gets into office. . We will lay off people to pay for the higher tax. Maybe all of you will end up in the unemployment line.

Posted by: Verm | September 10, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm

Get used to it. Media clipping made George Bush look like an idiot, and the Dem’s loved it. Media clipping makes Obama look like an idiot, and he cries for mommy! Obama claims that this “happens every 4 years.” It may only happen to the Dem’s every 4 years, but it happens to Republicans every day. Perhaps the media was a bit unfair (perhaps), but the media built BO by showwing only his good points. I guess they can tear him back down by pointing out the other side…

Posted by: Don | September 10, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm

Maurizio, people will decide based upon what they want. You may think you know what people will decide upon, but you only know what you will decide. There is no way you know what everyone will base their decision on in this election.

Posted by: Kitty | September 10, 2008, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm

So now Palin is just window dressing? My goodness, he should stop talking.
The problem with Obama is that he’s jealous he’s not the center of attention anymore. Palin is.

Posted by: SAM | September 10, 2008, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm

WHAT?
Letterman is still on the air?
I thought he retired or was dead or something.

Posted by: HTuttle | September 10, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm

The difference between BUSH and John McCAIN is a “LIPSTICK”.

Posted by: T | September 10, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm

obama is imploding … acting like a fool … Biden is even embarrassed … dems are once again self inlifcting themselves with terms that describe their true nature … obama is just politics in it’s worse form … Go Palin !!!

Posted by: sam Jackson | September 10, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm

Michael Moore was is right that “Most Americans are stupid” And since he hangs out with Liberal Democrats his observations are from that side of the political spectrum!!! Obama just lost the election folks ! As before the Liberals don’t think!! They Re-act and their feelings override common sence and this is just one reason why they lose presidential elections! Secondly ; They whine and cry ” Everybody is picking on me” I need the Government to put my clothes on and feed me and send me to school and to pay for it too!! I need the Government to wipe my butt!
And you Wade as a Vietnam vet 68/69 Kontum 57th AHC you are typical of the “Left” to bring up a time in a War heroe’s life and diminish it to your uneducated pathetic meanness!
And Julie you need to listen to “Right Wing ” Radio and hear the stuff your people say about conservatives!! We hear both sides and critisize our side when they say ugly things but you on the left only hear your side which hides they’re ugliness from you. Just look at some of the letters here!

Posted by: James Thivierge | September 10, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm

Obama has done nothing and is nothing but a media darling. He makes a stupid comment and now tries to spin out of it. I hope everyone realizes he brings nothing to the table but his race. Colin Powell would have been a better “first” choice.

Posted by: Kevin | September 10, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm

Ouch,
Another darwinian reference.
My feelings are so hurt.

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 10, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm

HTuttle,
Yes, those Dems are so yesterday.

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 10, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm

Only Obama is allowed to claim the victim card. The media is outraged that someone else is a victim.

Posted by: Karen | September 10, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm

Barry, uh, can’t, uh, even, umm, talk, you know, without, uh, his, umm, tele-,uh, you know, prompter.
Barry, stick to what you do best…voting “present” (aka taking a tough stand), giving apologetic speeches to foreign countries, poorly organize communities, and write two more autobiographies.
BTW, can anyone actually name a single thing Obama has changed? Besides his mind?
If anyone honestly believes that this is “actual” change, then don’t complain when everyone’s taxes skyrocket in January.
But my neocon friends, do not worry. Obama is currently self-destructing and will end up being another footnote in history like McGovern, Dukakis, Gore, Kerry (do I need more examples of failed liberals?)

Posted by: Barry AuH2O | September 10, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm

If Obama didn’t know how this remark would be taken, especially with other remarks being said about Palin and lipstick today, then he is dumber than I thought. And we would want this guy to be our leader and say something stupid to other world leaders, then apologies saying “…that in Illinois, we call Russian leaders commies…”. Obama you are a second rate act.

Posted by: Sergio | September 10, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm

Yeah sure Obama….apparently your staff has given you a way to dig yourself out of this hole you’ve dug for you. Close but no cigar! You are done!

Posted by: tina | September 10, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm

I’m waiting to hear the phrase “political correctness run amok” from our conservative friends who have been reciting this victimization mantra for 15 years.

Posted by: Maurizio | September 10, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm

I’m a victim, no I’m not- I’m a pitbull,
but then.. maybe I am a victim…
Mr. Rove who am I really?

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 10, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm

I love the “If That’s What I’d Meant” qualifier. Can he get any weaker?

Posted by: SAM | September 10, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm

Wow, the Dems are venomous! What happened to “Change”, “Hope”, and the “new brand of politics”. All that’s easy to say when you’re up by 10 in the polls. Guess all the niceties go out the window when the goin’ gets rough, huh?

Posted by: Bob C | September 10, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm

YOU NARROW MINDED PEOPLE ONLY LIKE TO BELIEVE WHAT YOU WANT TO BELIEVE BECAUSE THAT JUSTIFIES THE SIZE OF YOUR TINY LITTLE BRAIN. YOU NARROW MINDED LITTLE PEOPLE NEED TO GROW UP AND WORK TOWARDS A BETTER WORLD FOR ALL OF US AS AMERCANS. I HAVE NEVER HEARD OBAMA BELITTLE HILLARY CLINTON. I ONLY HEARD HIM SPEAK UP ON HER BEHALF BECAUSE HE HAS RESPECT FOR HER, BECAUSE SHE IS A LADY. THAT IS MORE THAN I CAN SAY FOR THE LITTLE NARROW MINDED PEOPLE.

Posted by: mary | September 10, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm

Time to send Barack Obama back home to the Senate.
Maybe this time he’ll actually try to achieve something rather than scheme on how best to run for President.

Posted by: JA | September 10, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm

Time to send Barack Obama back home to the Senate.
Maybe this time he’ll actually try to achieve something rather than scheme on how best to run for President.

Posted by: JA | September 10, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm

I really can’t believe that people are pretending to be upset by this. It’s not gonna work, people are too smart.
Google “Sarah Palin addresses Alaska Independence Party.” It’s really interesting stuff.

Posted by: Maurizio | September 10, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm

This represents the very core of the Obama appeal, talking trash with stand up comedians before a not-so-intelligent audience.

Posted by: ironsides | September 10, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm

Sarah Palin: Charged women $1200 for their own rape kits
Joe Biden: Sponsored the Violence Against Women Act that made it illegal for police to charge a woman for investigating a crime against her
Women for Sarah Palin? Must be self-hating misogynists.

Posted by: johnTX | September 10, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm

Let’s see. 50 Million Americans don’t have health insurance – and John McCain and the press are busy reviewing comments about lipstick. John McCain dumped his disabled wife to marry an heiress young enough to be his daughter, made disgusting jokes about a little girl’s looks, and suggested that his wife take part in a topless contest in the Dakotas. There is virtually no evidence that Obama has treated his wife with anything besides respect, he stands for women’s rights (while McCain doesn’t even believe in equal pay for equal work) and OBAMA is the sexist. Try selling that one to the hog.

Posted by: mara | September 10, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm

Why can’t Obama just be man enough and admit that his use of that phrase was not appropriate since you have a female in the race. It’s just like when McCain apologized back in March for using the word tar baby in an answer about divorce. The phrases may be historical but you have to consider the current context when deciding whether to use them.

Posted by: tiredtoo | September 10, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm

Carol – Your comment about rape kits is interesting – and horrifying. Can you cite a source?

Posted by: mara | September 10, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm

Obama says when GOP demands an apology: “Sweetie, shut up and get over it”.
Only ones who seems to accept this type of message from a presidential candidate is the Dems Superdelegates.

Posted by: Sylvia Johnsen | September 10, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm

Obama is a VERY smart guy. He knew that everyone watched Sarah Palin’s speech and her lipstick quip was one of her best lines. Accordingly, he knew by invoking the word ‘lipstick’ it would bring Palin to people’s minds. This sly dig of his will cost him dearly come November 4th.

Posted by: AG | September 10, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm

Mara, TALKING ABOUT EQUAL PAY … Obama wants Hillary to work for nothing. He didn’t even consider her for a job she was qualified for, and now, he neeeeeeds her.

Posted by: Kitty | September 10, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm

So, let me get this straight, that’s not what he meant, but if it was what he meant, he’d mean to be insulting. Up until now, though I didn’t plan to vote for Senator Teleprompter, I respected him as a very savvy man. Not anymore. He takes a full five second pause between “If you put lipstick on a pig,” and “it’s still a pig” and during that pause the crowd goes wild clearly inferring that he means to speak ill of Governor Palin.
Senator Obama is being overtly disingenuous here, and it’s disgusting of him.

Posted by: Thank God for Karma | September 10, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm

For all the right-wing nut-job republican bloggers..your the ones running scared..posting as democrats !

Posted by: Shawn | September 10, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm

Mara, If you’re going to put down someone, at least get the facts straight.
Obama’s staff: 33 men and 31 women, men are paid $6,000 more than women.
Mccain staff: 30 women and 16 men and the women are paid $3,000 more than the men.
That’s what happens when you depend on the Daily Kos or Huffinton post to get your news. Use a real news source and you won’t look so foolish.

Posted by: S Adams | September 10, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm

Re: “The above my paygrade thing is worn out.” Obama’s “above my pay grade” answer was a cowardly cop-out. Bottom line – if a fetus is not life, abortion is a medical procedure. If it’s life, abortion is the termination of a life, aka murder. If Obama really does not know when life begins, how can anybody vote for someone who admits that he could be supporting the termination of life? Remember, according to Obama, a child is “punishment.” That is sick on the most fundamental level.

Posted by: Bob C | September 10, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm

Obama was being kind to Palin, and brilliant in his comparison. Palin has no substance whatsoever, and his comments will get voters to finally start thinking about it. Plus where does all of this republican indignation about the treatment of women suddenly come from? Please, women are not fools, they won’t buy it.

Posted by: robby10001 | September 10, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm

Palin is the Governor of 150000
moose in Alaska. She’s not a
Governor of pigs as BO seemed
to imply.

Posted by: anon | September 10, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm

What better way to celebrate the 28th anniversary of the election of Ronald Reagan than to elect McCain/Palin? I can see it now: Lower taxes, balanced budget, Supreme Court Justices not legislating from the bench.
Afterall, wasn’t it Barry…I am sorry, I should never have used the ‘Chosen’ one’s name in vein, that thought Reagan and other Republicans had all the best ideas over the last 30 years?
Furthermore, wasn’t it Hilary that said Obama’s claim to fame “was a speech he gave in 2004″? Didn’t Biden say that ‘the presidency doesn’t lend itself to on the job training’? Geez, doesn’t look to good for the Democrats this year.
However, I thought all liberals were supposed to be “caring, open-minded, tolerant, understanding, compassionate, loving, and sympathetic” to people from all walks of life? Or was that just another gaffe?

Posted by: Barry AuH2O | September 10, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm

Boy, he’s flailing and scratching at anything. We just might get a catfight afterall. I’m going to put my money on her, not him.

Posted by: Desparate Times | September 10, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm

Obamacles | Sep 10, 2008 8:45:24 PM
Look it up people it is poetic.
SWEET!

Posted by: beowulf1 | September 10, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm

Tomorrow Sarah Palin will appear next to his son and proudly giving him farewell and godspeed to Iraq.
I know I will shed many a tear watching this. I have fallen very much in care with Sarah and her family.

Posted by: bebe | September 10, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm

the only one making annie oakley statements is Palin. You want to be tough girl-woman up-don’t be a girlie woman, you want to talk like a man-be prepared to take what you dish out, you are embarrasing the rest of us women who know how to stand our ground.

Posted by: cowgirlblues | September 10, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm

How many Republicans have seen the video of McCain calling his wife (Cindy) a cu*t? I amazed Republicans sure can tell lies and dish trash but are poor loosers and can’t take it.

Posted by: SmileAlready | September 10, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm

“If Obama didn’t know how this remark would be taken, especially with other remarks being said about Palin and lipstick today, then he is dumber than I thought.”
Not necessarily. It seems more likely that the problem is that YOU are dumber than he thought.

Posted by: Aengil | September 10, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm

Hopefully, next week, the candidates will talk big grandma panties instead of the big issues. What will political consultants think of next? So much for both parties being about solving the issues of our day. The joke on us…

Posted by: threeriverscrossing | September 10, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm

I am not American, I live in Ireland but am following this election religiously. Why? Because ‘who is leader of the free world’ is an issue that cannot be ignored, not by Americans and not by people around the world. For example Bill and Hillary Clinton were heavily involved in the Northern Ireland Peace Process and gave alot of their time towards making peace a reality in Northern Ireland. Now if I were an American, without doubt Obama would be getting my vote. After eight years of Bush, change is needed,and John ‘the maverick’ Mc Cain cannot offer that change. I respect his patriotism, however the fact that he spent five years in a cell in Viet Nam does not mean he offers a suppiour health care policy, Nor does he offer long term soloutions to making America Energy indepentant because you can drill, drill and drill but we wont do that forever. I watched with horror the way in which the McCain camp took Obama’s lipstick remark and hit him with the sexist label; I think this is petty politics and I think the citizens of the United States would be better informed if McCain told the American folks what his policies were….not exclusively his forreign policy or his ‘drill, drill, drill’ policy. Now what was most interesting as an outsider watching this campaign was how McCain hammered obama, claiming he hadnt enough experince and THEN he picks as a running mate a lady who has been in her respective office for a similar lenght of time. Palin, in the back of her mind, must now that her selection was simply to pinch dissillusioned Hillary supports, not simply for her good character and her record. “I told congress, thanks..but no thanks, on the bridge to no where”; that would ressinate louder had she not supported it prior to opposing it. I think Americans need Obama’s vision of change, and if they need a reminder which party can improve their quality of life, increase their wages, improve their education and create more jobs, think of three words….Clinton or Bush?

Posted by: Marc | September 10, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm

This is a pig in a poke.

Posted by: woman | September 10, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm

Every time the McCain camp stirs up phony outrage, it plays into Obama’s strategy that McSame is ducking the issues. Then the McCain folk get mad because Obama won’t fall for their feeble trap. Rinse and repeat. Palin = short term gain, long term pain.

Posted by: Maurizio | September 10, 2008, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm

Palin needs to pull up her big girl panties and stop playing the victim. She wants to dish it out but I guess she can’t take it. And this is the kind of woman that some of you want. I guess you’d settle with anything.

Posted by: big girl | September 10, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm

Obama keeps digging his hole deeper. All you need are six feet, Obama. It’s time to cut bait and humbly apologize. By saying that she’s only the “lipstick” is to demean every woman out there who holds public office. This man is such a loser. I hesitate to ask my youngest sister what she thinks of him now as she is a single woman in an executive position.

Posted by: Gina | September 10, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm

This whole McCain-fueled topic of discussion is an utter disgrace to our democracy. ABC should do its job and lay out the full quotation leading up to the comment. Here is the full quotation of what Obama said, not a *single* reference to Palin.
–”John McCain says he’s about change too,” Obama told a crowd here. “So I guess his whole angle is: Watch out, George Bush — except for economic policy, healthcare policy, tax policy, education policy, foreign policy and Karl Rove-style politics, we’re really going to shake things up in Washington..
–Next Sentence: “That’s not change. That’s just calling the same thing something different. But you can put lipstick on a pig, it’s still a pig. You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change, and it’s still going to stink after eight years.”
–Let’s all go back to our English classrooms, people. And to those who are literate: stop blatantly lying by omission.

Posted by: patmac | September 10, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm

What a disappointment McCain and his campaign have become. You are not a maverick, but a desperado. McCain’s campaign has been run on topics of fear, smear, & distraction. Palin is a novelty and her persona is starting to unravel.

Posted by: enuff | September 10, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm

Obama’s lead-up to his original use of the expression makes it utterly and *objectively* clear to *any literate person* that ‘the change slogan’ is the lipstick and “the set of policies’ is the pig. End of story.

Posted by: patmac | September 10, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm

Obama is not as smart as I thought he was – the more this goe’s on the more he undoes himself. No one better at speeches but he stinks on his feet. He knew what he was doing and did it anyway. Palin deserves better – Obama and his great team need to develop some class. Biden has it but not enough to make up for junior Senator. Obama will never be president… Now Hilary is another story – back to Palin she the real deal and isn’t it refreshing.
Dem lose again and you know what they still don’t get it. That aside we need to get rid of the two party system it doesn’t work – we don’t get the best people in the country for our top jobs.
I just hope it isn’t to late to fix our country – if Obama is elected we are all doomed.

Posted by: a citizen | September 10, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm

McCain’s military record:
* crashed five military planes
* served 20 hours in combat
* spoke with enemies (McCain named PW Songbird)

Posted by: mythbuster | September 10, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm

I cannot believe we are letting the media decide what is important for us to know about our candidates. Where is the outrage? We deserve everything we get.

Posted by: Trevroc | September 10, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm

McCain has his team looking for every word they can create a scandal over because when it comes to the issues – McCAIN HAS NOTHING NEW TO OFFER!

Posted by: dan | September 10, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm

I’m new to blogging and I am quite surprized and shocked at the focus that so many people are taking on this issue. I am a native Alaskan and my question is what can the government do to help our situations in my village, in our state, and in our country. After all, that is their purpose. Simple as that. As the salmon populations decline and waters become more polluted, the economy is in a tumble, all I seem to be hearing about is who owns the copywrite on lipstick. Where is the discussion about what matters (a lot more than just the number of fish swimming upstream – that’s for sure) and I’m not hearing anything like that from McCain (he’s the one running for president, by the way). There is no substance in his politics. Let’s please focus on what matters, and show the world we can be more than trite children on the playground.

Posted by: tuqaak | September 10, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm

Sarah Palin came out spewing her mean spirited self righteousness in her speech to the republican convention so why is it that she can only be talked about in glowing terms as if she is Mary from the bible. It’s amazing how many americans would rather forget about real issues and instead tirelessly discuss the ridiculous.

Posted by: fool me once | September 10, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm

And once again, the Republicans play useless word games with the American public, to divert their attention from what is really important, and so that they do not have to qualify their laughable “change” platform against the degradation they have put our country through for hte past 8 years. The last thing they want is to actually talk about hte economy, our record national debt (which was a surplus when they took office), the urgent environmental crisis we are facing and which they continue to largely ignore, their erosion of our constitution, and the systematic selling off of our assets and resouces to large corporations, domestic and foreign. Pretty soon, we will be buying our own milk and corn from the Chinese, if we aren’t already. And all so that they can show how much political fundraising power they have and line thier own pockets. They appeal to the least educated and most racist and narrow-minded among us, and all they have to do is tell them, “you’re not racist or stupid, really. We are the party for you, don’t worry, we’ll save you from the liberals who are really at the cause of all the problems” . . . . I pray to God that Americans are better than that.

Posted by: Susan Roppel | September 10, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm

Since 1973, the US Supreme Court decision in Roe versus Wade has given choice to women about abortion as a private matter, exactly the same choice given to McCain to sin against his first wife, Carol, through adultery with his current wife, Cindi (Authority – King James Holy Bible on marriages in the eyes of God); exactly the same choice given to Bristol Palin to sin through adultery and unwed pregnancy (Authority – King James Holy Bible in the ten commandments). Obama understands that, since 1973, Roe versus Wade is not broken and does not need to be fixed. There are much higher priority issues affecting the country right now than “unborn” children. Even on that subject, research has clearly shown that Obama’s solution of comprehensive sex education and support care reduces the number of abortions, while abortions increased under Bush/McCain/Palin type policies. Obama understands that, it is the “already born” children and their parents in the middle class, the largest group of Americans, that need jobs and tax breaks right now, not just the small minority that makes over $250,000 per year- only about 2% of households. Obam/Biden = Fighting for the “the already born and unborn! ”McCain-Palin=Fighting for the “unborn” only… which group are you in???

Posted by: CommonSense | September 10, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm

I just hope it isn’t to late to fix our country – if Obama is elected we are all doomed.
Posted by: a citizen | Sep 10, 2008 9:24:16 PM
Well if people hadn’t voted for Bush twice this country wouldn’t be in the mess it’s in. And now you want to hand another 4 years over to them again. What exactly would McGoo fix. Please don’t all speak at once.

Posted by: oo | September 10, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm

Well said Senator Obama well said!!!!
Well said Senator Obama well said!!!!
Well said Senator Obama well said!!!!
Well said Senator Obama well said!!!!

Posted by: ETHAMR | September 10, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm

Posted by bebe:
Tomorrow Sarah Palin will appear next to his son and proudly giving him farewell and godspeed to Iraq.
I know I will shed many a tear watching this. I have fallen very much in care with Sarah and her family.
A Republican insider called that “narrative”
Its a well tested political ploy that is meant to work on women for this election. It has nothing go do with policy.

Posted by: truth serum | September 10, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm

LOL, the Republicans has someone that has to hidden away from any questions. What sort of statment is that?
You have NOTHING. You have an empty pantsuit there. She can’t do anything but make the same old tired statements again and again. What a joke. Then McSame comes out and totally fails today all by himself.
This country has some serious problems and you want to give us Captain Stubing and Julie McCoy from The Love Boat.
What sort of problems can she have?
Oh I don’t know….how about the fact that she had taxpayers PAY $60 per night for her to sleep at home?
Oh I dunno, the fact that she trying to obstruct justice in the independent investigation of improper firing of a city official could be another.
You don’t know her, she is your cruise director and has no idea how to steer this ship. Now Captain Stubing has his own problems. He knows nothing about economics. Well, then does she even him out at all on this? Nope, but she sure does know how to turn a phrase, “I said no thank you to that “Bridge from Nowhere”. So the only thing she does say is a flat out lie.
She calls herself a Christian and lies all the time. She has told this lie over and over and the press still can’t ask her about it. What is this??? She must be really inept if McSame has to live off her charm. He certainly has none anymore. Is that the full resume for the second highest position in the land, charm?
Country First! rrriiight.

Posted by: woman | September 10, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm

Do campaign spokespeople get approval from the candidates before making every statement to the press? I’m wondering because what the spokespeople say can clearly cause a firestorm (as demonstrated by the fallout from the McCain campaign’s complaint about the piggy lipstick metaphor and the fallout from Obama’s campaign claiming that Palin was only chosen because she didn’t have an abortion). Do the candidates pre-approve all these tactics?

Posted by: amigan | September 10, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm

Isn’t it fun to be played by Karl Rove for another 4 years? I thought it wasn’t possible, but this nonsense will be responsible for running this country directly into the ground. Of course, the neos take no responsibility for it. Got to love that about them.

Posted by: Angies_Larpers | September 10, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm

What I think is hilarious is the total (fake) outrage coming from the worlds foremost hypocrite Rush Limbaugh. Isn’t he the one that coined the term “feminazi”? Yup – The real pig turns out to be Limbaugh in mind and stature.

Posted by: dan | September 10, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm

Matt Damon or whatever from the Bourn Extreme just showed what a moron he and a butt load of other actors are in an interview. He’s just one more pretty boy actor that actually takes himself seriously that I will never spend money to watch again.

Posted by: beowulf1 | September 10, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm

CommonSense,
Allow me to summarize for you. You like Obama the most. There, does that do it?
And my question is, OK, but does he make any sense? He seems to be stuck on lipstick.
He definitely has the vote of the misogynistic wing of the Democratic Party, don’t you think?

Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | September 10, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm

No Versailles (PhD isn’t that impressive, by the way, you can buy one online) if you listen to entire sentence (sentence? the sentence began “you can” I think you mean paragraph) it is clear that the comment referred to McCain’s appropriation of the “change” banner. The “lipstick” comment followed the remark that McCain was for “change” except in the areas of tax policy, economic policy, etc. etc. So logically, it referred to that and Sarah Palin was neither mentioned or referenced. However, since Republicans never let facts get in the way, that was ignored.

Posted by: Dee Dee Lynn | September 10, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm

Imagine that, a governor with time on her hands to micro-manage the personnel file of an individual state trooper!

Posted by: CommonSense | September 10, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm

McCain has used this exact phrase publicly at least 5 times in the last couple of years and at least one time said putting lipstick on a pig when talking about Hillary Clinton’s health plan. Do I think he was calling Clinton a pig. If the mental midgets out there “actually” do believe that this is a sexist comment on th part of Obama towards Palin, or women in general, then isn’t McCain at least 5 times as sexist as Obama? I am sorry McCain apologists it CAN’T be both ways.
The McCain campaign and the idiots that are supporting him and advising him have become absolutely pathetic.
Seriously, how do you look at yourselves in the mirror???

Posted by: Brian | September 10, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm

As a POW, McCain gave out more than “name, rank, and serial number!” McCain gave the enemy the location of his base as well as the target he was going to bomb. He also told them his father was the famous Admiral McCain. In return, for giving out confidential, classified information in violation of the US military Code of Conduct, McCain was given preferential treatment by his captors. Upon McCain’s POW release and return to the states, within 1 month McCain divorced his first wife, Carol (she was a former model), because in the 3rd year of her loyal waiting for her POW husband and father of their 3 children to return, on Christmas eve while in route to deliver Christmas presents to family friends she was injured in a car wreck that required 20 operations and left her with weight gain and a limp. In total violation of biblical teaching, that states flatly that divorce is allowable only for adultery, McCain ditched Carol and married Cindi; hence, McCain and Cindi are committing adultery before our eyes. Bristol Palin, the daughter of McCain’s VP nominee, is an unwed, teenage pregnant mother having committed adultery in violation of Biblical teaching. McCain-Palin=Adultery First! McCain-Palin=Broker than the 10 commandments! Too bad McCain-Palin actions are in direct contrast to their Christian right-wing holier than thou attitudes and policies.

Posted by: CommonSense | September 10, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm

I just saw a report on FakeNews that McCain and Palin may keep campaigning together.
The GOP knows that this woman will get picked apart when she goes solo.
You repubs see it coming. You can duck and dodge and HIDE this woman all you want to. But the end is near !!!

Posted by: Order | September 10, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm

This entire story was advanced by the McCain-Palin campaign to DISTRACT Americans from the release of the budget deficit figures late yesterday. It was a DISTRACTION so that Americans wouldn’t hear about the $500 billion deficit that the George Bush Administration is leaving for the next president. $500 BILLION. That’s one-half of a trillion dollar deficit. That’s the real pig in this contest, and that’s why the Republicans are using everything they have to DISTRACT voters from real news. I hope that ABC reporters and news editors reject this kind of DISTRACTION and start focusing on the real issues. $500 BILLION!

Posted by: Reagan Democrat | September 10, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm

This entire story was advanced by the McCain-Palin campaign to DISTRACT Americans from the release of the budget deficit figures late yesterday. It was a DISTRACTION so that Americans wouldn’t hear about the $500 billion deficit that the George Bush Administration is leaving for the next president. $500 BILLION. That’s one-half of a trillion dollar deficit. That’s the real pig in this contest, and that’s why the Republicans are using everything they have to DISTRACT voters from real news. I hope that ABC reporters and news editors reject this kind of DISTRACTION and start focusing on the real issues. $500 BILLION!

Posted by: Reagan Democrat | September 10, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm

Mr. Maverick and Ms. Reformer.
His best friends are lobbyists.
And she is the champion of
earmark requests.

Posted by: anon | September 10, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm

Posted by: Susan Roppel | Sep 10, 2008 9:31:02 PM
The last thing they want is to actually talk about hte economy, our record national debt (which was a surplus when they took office)…
First, Susan, a BUDGET SURPLUS and a NATIONAL DEBT are two seperate things. The Republicans understand what this is, clearly democrats do not. One thing that wipes out a BUDGET SURPLUS is a war, such as the one we went to after 9/11.
Another thing that will wipe out a BUDGET SURPLUS is the massive government spending that Obama has in store for us. Furthermore, how are we going to pay for this? Increasing your taxes. Golly geez, I can’t wait for the government to take more of my paycheck.
Finally, if you how are the Republicans being racist and narrow-minded? Did McCain make some controverisal comment about Obama’s race? I think it was Mr. Biden that said that Obama was “a clean, articulate man”. Biden also said that since he is from Delaware, which is a former slave state, he was qualified to be president.
Once again, liberals, bring a better A-game. I am still not trying and the Republicans are still winning, just wait till Palin tears into Obama next week, he will be running away from Sarah with his tail between his legs.
BTW–The last time the NATIONAL DEBT was paid off was when Andrew Jackson was President.

Posted by: Barry AuH2O | September 10, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm

The Dem party led by Pelosi, Harry Reid and Barrack Obama is circling the drain and I can’t tell you how hard it is for me to wipe the poop eating grin off of my face.
Keep up the good work Team

Posted by: Garth Webster | September 10, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm

What a joke!
Mccain just made the worst mistake EVER choosing this girl just to try and boost the damaged REPUBLICON brand.
Please tell me we aren’t foolish enough to buy into this crap.
Imagine this girl trying to talk foreign policy with leaders of countries that want to take us over?
yeah, she has a clue.
Don’t NOT be fooled by this Britney Spears that they have thrown us just to boost mCSAMES lame attendance records. Before he chose his soccer mom, he couldn’t even fill a VFW hall. Trust me, i’VE SEEN IT.
This has to be a bad nightmare, this can’t be real that we’ll even stand for such a mockery.
this is the worst vp pick ever.
she should have been a better parent and maybe her daughter wouldn’t be in such a hole right now.
W

Posted by: semer | September 10, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm

Christian, right wing hypocrites! According to the HOLY BIBLE, in all “Christian” denominations, no one can divorce their partner except for adultery! Hence, John McCain, who divorced his first wife (mother of 3 of McCains children) because she became injured in a car wreck even though she loyally and faithfully waited for him, is living in sin with current wife Cindi…according to any and all Christian bibles. Yet, that is a sin that is overlooked by the Christian evangelicals and considered to be John McCain’s choice, with the sin being only on McCain and not on the nation. According to the HOLY BIBLE, Sarah Palin’s daughter is a sinful whore, evidence of being raised by “unfit” parents. Yet, as with McCain’s sin, Bristol Palin’s sin is overlooked as Bristol’s individual choice, with the sin being only on Bristol and not on the nation. So, why is it that, if it is indeed a sin, abortion is not viewed as a choice of the woman, with the sin being on the individual woman….and not on the nation no more than McCain’s sin or Bristol’s sin. Why do so-called Christian’s “pick and choose” which sins are allowable for choice; yet, conclude that the sin of abortion is greater than murder in Iraq, the destruction of marriage, and underage pregnancy…as espoused by the McCain-Palin ticket????

Posted by: CommonSense | September 10, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm

Mr. Tapper,
I wanted to thank you– from one journalist to another– for your contribution to journalism. It’s good to know that the Senior National Correspondent at ABC News is writing about important issues. Of all the key issues that need to be addressed at this critical time in our nation’s history, you’ve certainly found the one that truly matters. You’re a credit to the profession. Another generation had Woodward & Bernstein– we have Jake Tapper! Way to go ABC News.

Posted by: Rob | September 10, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm

I hate politics. Every 3 to 4 weeks we get a few seconds of substantative policy debate between candidates.
The rest of the time is this b.s. Madison Ave packaging. Whether you were a community organizer or a war hero, whether you have a pregnant teenager or not… what are you going to do about gas prices???
Are we really talking about pigs and lipstick???

Posted by: Justin | September 10, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm

Oh..My God,, Matt Damon…who do you think you are? McCain has served this country with honor and still serving for this country. His people (Republicans) chose him to be their nomination. You should respect for that. Then, McCain chose Sarah Palin to be his running mate. Of course you have to respect what other chose. This is what American is about…you respect the differences. Sarah is not nobody, she is serving this country as a good citizen. I’m not talking about politics here. Don’t you have decency at all? Have some respect dude. You have a wife, a mother and (3) daughters, at least show respect to ladies. That’s not a good thing to say “absurd”…”scary”..and I found it very offensive and rude. Not gentleman like at all. You look so rude during interview. Do you think you’re better than her? bring it on dude..being a mother is the most challenging job in the world. You sounded that women are inferior than men. My God…what were you thinking…drunk or drug influence?

Posted by: Harry | September 10, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm

Obama has demonstrated his patriotism his entire political career, as a community organizer, a constitutional law professor, a loving husband and father, and forf 12 years as a state senator of Illinois (population 12.8 million people of which 79.3% are white people and only 15% are black people) and 4 years as a U.S. Senator (one of only 3 blacks since reconstruction). The Senate is generally seen as the “senior class” of the U.S. Congress. Few senators are elected without some political experience at other levels, whether in the U.S. House of Representatives, or at the state level. Senatorial candidates must be at least 30 years old when they register, and must be citizens for at least nine years. They must also be residents in the states where they qualify. Senators may also be called upon to serve on committees, and have a variety of duties as they serve the people of their state.
The fact that a little more than one third of all U.S. presidents were senators suggests the importance of the Senate with respect to the presidency. It puts candidates in the public eye and gives them a better idea of the kind of politics they espouse, what they support, and how they vote on certain issues.

Posted by: CommonSense | September 10, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm

RANK…NAME…SERIAL NUMBER

Posted by: WhereDoesItEnd | September 10, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm

Barack was obviously missing his teleprompter on the Letterman show. You can always tell. First, he can’t stop stuttering without it. Second, he can’t put together an intelligible sentence without it.

Posted by: amy | September 10, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm

Note that conservatives think this is a winning issue. They really think they got Obama!

Posted by: Maurizio | September 10, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm

Funny how it took Obama almost 24 hours to think up that excuse. I still believe he was calling Palin the pig

Posted by: Registered Republican | September 10, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm

“Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people.”
– Eleanor Roosevelt
_________________________________________________
McCain/Palin – small minds for President.

Posted by: Paige | September 10, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm

Is Obama capable of starting a sentence without the word “look”? Good Lord!

Posted by: Brian W. | September 10, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm

My two sisters, both registered Democrats have made the decision to vote McCain/Palin.
Not because McCain tapped a woman but because Obama stands for nothing has accomplished nothing and will lead us to nothing.
You go girls

Posted by: Garth Webster | September 10, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm

This is such a distraction tactic on the part of the McCain campaign and its terribly frustrating. And further frustrating how much air time and web pages this coverage is receiving.
I’m pretty liberal, however I would be VERY open to considering both sides (driven by fact driven specific debate) on issues of economic, fiscal policy and foreign policy. But the moment the discussion turns to family values, abortion, anti patriotism or “liberal elitism” I tune out and pull the democrat lever. And the social conservatives do the same (except go republican). And thereby issues that affect us both equally do not get addressed or even discussed.
These distractions are a PROBLEM to all of us as Americans and it is a shame the coverage this is receiving.

Posted by: lex_soho | September 10, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm

Oh my God, ABC. You’re supposed to be a serious news organization and THIS is what you think is important? EVERY other news org has said publicly that this whole lipstick fiasco was ridiculous, most even admitting this is the time the media needs to turn the mirror around and take a good hard look at how they’re letting themselves be manipulated and led like lambs to the slaughter by the McCain campaign. COME ON, ABC. Do the American voters the service you owe them and cover THE ISSUES. Give me a break. This crap you guys keep headlining is gutter trash and you know it. Live up to your obligation to report real news and real information on real issues to the voters and your viewers. You should be embarassed that you fallen to this low.

Posted by: Debbie Gomez | September 10, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm

Patriotism…. does adorning the flag on your lapel make you a patriot? How about putting a bumper sticker on your car supporting the troops? Better yet – support the troops by signing up so troops don’t have to be on their third and fourth tours.

Posted by: WhereDoesItEnd | September 10, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm

TROOPERGATE – Trooper Mike Wooten was disciplined long before Palin took office as governor. A bipartisan committee of the Alaskan legislature voted 12 to 0 to investigate Palin after she fired Public Safety Commissioner Walter Monegan after it was learned that he had refused to fire the already disciplined Wooten who prior to his discipline had been involved in a messy divorce with Palin’s sister. The situation regarding Palin’s sister’s divorce and some inconsistent statements by Governor Palin call into question the real reasons for this firing. In fact, Governor Palin had used her Chief Of Staff, Mike Tibbles, her husband, the state’s Attorney General and herself to contact Public Safety Commissioner Monegan no less than 24 times in regards to complaints about Alaska State Trooper Mike Wooten. Common sense tells us that she “abused her power as governor.” Go figure…
It seems strange that John McCain would choose a running mate who is the subject of an ethics probe of this sort, which if it turns out badly could damage his chances right before the election. But this only proves what a high risk gamble the decision to choose Palin was in addition to her serious lack of experience should she ever become president in the event of some national emergency.
Do we really want a 72 year old “high risk” gambler, who sings “bomb, bomb Iran”…who reacts without questioning that “we are all Georgians”…who violated the military code of conduct as a POW by giving more than name, rank and serial number (he gave the location of his target and his base in return for preferential treatment by his captors)… who divorced his first wife and mother of his children, Carol, not for biblically allowed reasons (adultery) but merely because, while waiting faithfully as a POW wife, she was in a car wreck on Christmas Eve and when McCain returned 2 years later, she wasn’t quite the “fashion model” anymore (she gained some weight and walked with a limp). So much for “in sickness or in health,” right?
Sadly, McCain’s life story is that of a morally bankrupt individual and he is NOT qualified to be president nor commander in chief.

Posted by: CommonSense | September 10, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm

Palin can hide for only so
long. When people see more
of her she will confim what
many suspect – she is
unprepared and in over her
head.

Posted by: anon | September 10, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm

I’ll take your 2 new Republicans and raise you 6 new Democrats that were voting Republican until today thanks to McCain’s handling of Palin. The reactions to her, questions regarding her experience and the total over-reach today simply shows a man without the character to be President.

Posted by: Parker | September 10, 2008, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm

Jon Stewart said it best when he had Newt Gingrich on. Newt pointed out that Palin had executive experience (as Governor) that Obama and Biden lacked, so that made her more qualified than either of them. Stewart replied “ But John McCain doesn’t have any executive experience either”.
So the Republican ticket should be Palin/McCain. GOTCHA!

Posted by: AtlantaDem | September 10, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm

Thanks nocomment,
People who pretend that they are christian and thus won’t vote for Obama because of stuff such as abortion are hypocrites. They are just like pharisians in the Bible. Jesus promoted love instead of hatred. They are full of hatred and will be rejected on the last day. Jesus will tell them: ” I do not know you sinners”.They are just racists and full of hatred. Bush’s pastor asked him to go to war in Irak so to accomplish a prophety of the Bible. Are they trying to help God?
I feel sorry for them.

Posted by: crazy | September 10, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm

John McCain should call the police! Karl Rove has stolen his honor!

Posted by: slou91 | September 10, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm

Brian W: Is McCain capable of starting a sentence with something other than “My friends. . .” My God.

Posted by: Sarah | September 10, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm

MATT DAMON :::::
Could not have said it any better and more truthful than he did.
Everyone on America should watch what he said and pay damn close attention to it.
This is the second most important job in America and we’re going to let some liar with a few comic punch-lines run the white house? PLEASE….
He’s so darn right… It’s like a BAD Disney movie.
This cannot be real.
Mccain just ruined himself with this one.
That’s all we’ve been hearing on the street lately.
people are feeling tricked and offended by this disgusting mockery he has made to the presidential elections and Country by this pretty joke of a candidate.
Just like Bush, they are already in hiding and in a cloud of secrecy.
I can’t believe the republican base is even the slightest bit amused by this prank Mccain pulled to try and boost his ratings.
Another ex-republican citizen voting across the line to try and save us from any more of this mess we’ve been in for the last horrible 8 years.
Yeah, we’re in good shape now.
WAKE UP AMERICA

Posted by: semer | September 10, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm

“Demands for military information were accompanied by threats to terminate my medical treatment if I [McCain] did not cooperate. Eventually, I gave them my ship’s name and squadron number, and confirmed that my target had been the power plant.” Page 193-194, Faith of My Fathers by John McCain.
When the communist learned that McCain’s father was Admiral John S. McCain, Jr., the soon-to-be commander of all U.S. Forces in the Pacific, he was rushed to Gai Lam military hospital (U.S. government documents), a medical facility normally unavailable for U.S. POWs.
The communist Vietnamese figured, because POW McCain’s father was of such high military rank, that he was of royalty or the governing circle. Thereafter the communist bragged that they had captured “the crown prince.”
For 23 combat missions (an estimated 20 hours over enemy territory), the U.S. Navy awarded McCain a Silver Star, a Legion of Merit for Valor, a Distinguished Flying Cross, three Bronze Stars, two Commendation medals plus two Purple Hearts and a dozen service medals.
“McCain had roughly 20 hours in combat,” explains Bill Bell, a veteran of Vietnam and former chief of the U.S. Office for POW/MIA Affairs — the first official U.S. representative in Vietnam since the 1973 fall of Saigon. “Since McCain got 28 medals,” Bell continues, “that equals out to about a medal-and-a-half for each hour he spent in combat. There were infantry guys — grunts on the ground — who had more than 7,000 hours in combat and I can tell you that there were times and situations where I’m sure a prison cell would have looked pretty good to them by comparison. The question really is how many guys got that number of medals for not being shot down.”
vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com

Posted by: Steven | September 10, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm

Newsflash:
McCain and Campaign manager photographed aboard convicted con-mans yacht in Montenegro while there celebrating Montenegran Independence.
Wait thats not news that;s daily operational procedure.

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 10, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm

Did you know that Palin is antisemetic and hates Jews? Many Jews will not vote for Palin because of her extreme views and support for antisemites. I don’t know about you, but Palin is very scary and a terrible pick for McCain.

Posted by: Palin is scary | September 10, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm

Obama looks uglier and uglier.

Posted by: golfgirlusa | September 10, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm

When only two out of five Americans know how many branches of government we have how can you expect them to focus on the issues?

Posted by: Jeff A. | September 10, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm

It’s sounds like a Republican double standard to me. I guess it’s not okay for Barack Obama to play the race card but it’s okay for the leadership of the McCain party to play the sexism card. This also sounds like a case of causation versus coincidence. Obama uses “lipstick on pig” therefore he has to be directly referring to Sarah Palin. Now if he made any mention of her name in the context that’s one thing but he never mentions and goes on to use another analogy with the fish(so does that mean Obama was referring to her vagina?). These are beautiful distractions away from the real news and concerns of the day so you guys just have fun with your short attention spans .
By the way Republicans, I thing Justin Timberlake wrote a song that fits your reaction to this controversy: “Cry Me a River” is it not?

Posted by: terry | September 10, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm

PALIN’S “THANKS, BUT NO THANKS LIE”
In September, 2006, Palin showed up in Ketchikan on her gubernatorial campaign and said the bridge was essential for the town’s prosperity.
“We need to come to the defense of Southeast Alaska when proposals are on the table like the bridge,” according to the local newspaper, “and not allow the spinmeisters to turn this project or any other into something that’s so negative.”
She said she could feel the town’s pain at being derided as a “nowhere” by prominent politicians, noting that her home town, Wasilla, had recently been insulted by the state Senate president, Ben Stevens.
“OK, you’ve got valley trash standing here in the middle of nowhere,” Palin said, according to an account in the Ketchikan Daily News. “I think we’re going to make a good team as we progress that bridge project.”
One year later, Ketchikan’s Republican leaders said they were blindsided by Palin’s decision to pull the plug.
Once Palin spiked the bridge project, the money wasn’t available to Minnesota or other states, however. Congress, chastened by criticism of the Alaska funding, had removed the earmark but allowed the state to keep the $232 million and direct it to other transportation projects.

Posted by: AtlantaDem | September 10, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm

Yes that bale out of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mack was a complete disaster – one that Obama would gladly had of went along with too! Let the markets correct – tents at Wal-Mart are cheap – and we would all be alot better in the long run. Our irresponsibility is just catching up with us – Obama would do no better – he’s just a tax raising liberal pinhead.

Posted by: Steve | September 10, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm

Obama called Gov. Palin a pig, and called Sen. McCain an old fish.
The audience got it, and reacted accordingly.
He knew they got it, smirked and played along.
Everyone watching the video gets it.
Now there’s blowback and he’s trying to weasel out of the spot.
Why doesn’t he brush his shoulders like he did with Sen Clinton?

Posted by: Rick | September 10, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm

IT’S THE ECONOMY STUPID
Sarah Palin’s speech had Karl Rove’s dirty fingerprints all over it. Except for the high pitched whine the delivery was passable. The content was more of the same, attack, attack, attack. That’s the only thing the Republicans can do competently. Where are the new ideas to deal with the critical issues facing America?
They have no new ideas.
Do we deal with our failing economy by continuing to cut taxes on the rich hoping in vain that their obscene wealth will “trickle down” to the rest of us? Only if we have forgotten that Reagan and Bush already tried that and failed. Because of their failed policies the national debt has ballooned from less than 1 trillion dollars in 1980 to over 9.5 trillion dollars today, despite Clinton’s surpluses in the last years of his administration. BTW for the benefit of brain-dead Republicans one trillion is a thousand times one billion, one billion is one thousand times one million. To put this in perspective $9.5 trillion is $31,600 for every man, woman and child in the US. So for a typical family of four this amounts to $126,400.

Posted by: AtlantaDem | September 10, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm

OBAMA IS FOR THE FREE MARKETS OF CAPITALISM, constrained by the conscience of sensible government regulation! Obama understands that the government is just as essential to capitalism as is the consumer; and, he understands the government’s role to enhance and create new industries and markets when the private sector is failing to do so. For example, Obama sees that the markets are not “laissez faire capitalism” when it comes to our energy industries. This is evident by the abnormally high gas prices! This is screwing the consumer. He understands far better than Bush/McCain that our way to independence is through alternative energies, such as FUEL CELL TECHNOLOGY, BIO-MASS, BIO-DIESEL, WIND, SOLAR, BIO-THERMAL TECHNOLOGIES. Obama knows how to unleash NASA again, unfettered by the sinister repression of free scientific thought, the BUSH/McCain sought to SILENCE and edit the scientists. Obama respects the opinions of ECONOMISTS, unlike Bush/McCain/Palin, who tried to pander with gas holiday gimmicks. OBAMA 08, YES WE CAN!!

Posted by: CommonSense | September 10, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm

All DEMS who want to vote for McCain have at it. All it indicates is that you are ignoring the issues and voting because you do not like the cover of the book. If Obama is sexist then so is Hilary Clinton’s husband. I hope John McCain puts you on a leash and takes you for a walk on the south lawn.

Posted by: WhereDoesItEnd | September 10, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm

My advice to Barack Obama is to stop commenting on that “lipstick” remark or similar stuff, since what ever he says will be distorted by the media (as we can see on this abc news site).
Also he needs to stop appearring on comedy shows like Letterman’s, Leno’s etc.
He needs to appear only on serious ocasions like debates, press conferences etc.

Posted by: Kay | September 10, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm

Who cares what Matt Damon thinks? Barbara Streisand, the Baldwin brothers, or any actor or actress. Let’s stay focused on the issues. Obama has proven yet again that he keeps putting his foot in his mouth. Why would he not do this if elected President. Obama has no experience, no talent other than reading a teleprompter, and no Executive Experience. Why would anyone in their right mind think this man should be President.

Posted by: Bob | September 10, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm

Obama didn’t say it..but yeah..I think she is a pig…a right-winged extremist pig who would set us back 50 years and burn all remaining bridges to the rest of the world. The USA is on the brink of financial collapse and we need to build alliances as we simply cannot go it alone any longer. Sadly, we are headed for a major fall. China..the torch is yours…the new world superpower.

Posted by: Mark | September 10, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm

When a blindman leads another blindman, they all go down the drain. Such is what McCain is doing to the blind folks in this country. The whole world looked at us and pronounced 0ver 300million people as dumb when GWB was voted 2nd time. Only a fool repeats his mistakes!

Posted by: couch | September 10, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm

Kay,
Barack is a very smart man. Smarter than even Rove or the parrots here with their psychobabble.
Watch and learn.

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 10, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm

The ABC headline is incendiary and misleading. Let’s you know that the network is in the tank for McCAin. No wonder they chose Charlie Gibson to do the Palin love fest interview.

Posted by: block | September 10, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm

Rick – brush off your high heels and laugh. The issue is not whether it was funny. The issue is whether is what a reference to Palin. Any HONEST person with a kindergarten diploma understands that it wasn’t.

Posted by: WhereDoesItEnd | September 10, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm

Throw in her experience as Governor and she has even more experience as an Executive
===========================
Of what, polar bears and penguins. There is only 1 person per square mile in Alaska.

Posted by: oo | September 10, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm

All this mudslinging by the Republicans about Obamas lipstick remark is nothing but a subterfuge—-Yeah, keep fanning the media frenzy and the publics ire about something as insignificant as a comment about lipstick to keep the American publics minds off the real and important issues such as the economy, foriegn policy and education—issues that John McCain really doesn’t have solutions for other than what the current administration has been doing for the last eight years. These kinds of smear tactics are typical of the Republican party—-just muddy the waters by playing on the American publics emotions with insignificant minutia, while reason flys out the door!!

Posted by: Leukevent | September 10, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm

Give Palin a 5 trillion dollar surplus,
proportionally kind of like Alaska at the moment, and she will do a fine job for all of us.

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 10, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm

Ask yourself what McCain is going to do for the middle class and the poor. Cut food stamps, housing, social security and any program that helps the people because of Bush and the republicans policy’s. Is he going to reinstate the draft like he told that one lady at his rally he would. God bless us if he gets in office.

Posted by: Geraldine | September 10, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm

I am disgusted by Palin. She is an antisemite. We cannot afford another four years of Bush. Palin’s hateful views should disqualify her from running for VP. I can’t wait for Americans to realize the truth about her and her hatred of all Jewish Americans.

Posted by: No Palin for me | September 10, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm

Let’s cut taxes for the poor – everyone knows they create the most jobs!

Posted by: Steve | September 10, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm

OBAMA IS FOR THE FREE MARKETS OF CAPITALISM, constrained by the conscience of sensible government regulation! Obama understands that the government is just as essential to capitalism as is the consumer; and, he understands the government’s role to enhance and create new industries and markets when the private sector is failing to do so. For example, Obama sees that the markets are not “laissez faire capitalism” when it comes to our energy industries. This is evident by the abnormally high gas prices! This is screwing the consumer. He understands far better than Bush/McCain that our way to independence is through alternative energies, such as FUEL CELL TECHNOLOGY, BIO-MASS, BIO-DIESEL, WIND, SOLAR, BIO-THERMAL TECHNOLOGIES. Obama knows how to unleash NASA again, unfettered by the sinister repression of free scientific thought, the BUSH/McCain sought to SILENCE and edit the scientists. Obama respects the opinions of ECONOMISTS, unlike Bush/McCain/Palin, who tried to pander with gas holiday gimmicks. OBAMA 08, YES WE CAN!!

Posted by: CommonSense | September 10, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm

COUNTRY FIRST? SOUNDS LIKE AMERICA FIRST
This country is heading down the wrong path, 80% of Americans polled understand this very well after 8 years of Republican misrule. There is only one way for McCain to win and that is to lie, cheat, and steal the election from the Democrats, and that is exactly what he is trying to do with the cowed complicity of the corporatist media. I do not chose the term “corporatist” lightly. Mussolini coined the term to describe his successful merging of rich business interests (controlling the media) and authoritarian government (controlling the people). The first step in this unholy alliance is always to politicize the Church. Mussolini got the Roman Catholic Church on board, Hitler got the German Protestant Church on-board. In 2000 Bush recruited Evangelicals to the Fascist cause.
Unfortunately Americans were asleep at the wheel. Too busy watching Fox News.
Our founding Father’s saw the danger of politicized religion over 200 years ago, hence the Establishment Clause.
Consider this: Evolution is science, Creationism and its’ successor “Intelligent Design” are not. The only people who would argue otherwise are disingenuous or stupid. A 2005 survey of 34 industrialized countries revealed that less than 25% of Americans believed in the Evolution of Species. About 80% of Icelanders, Danes, Swedes, French, Japanese, and Brits believed in Evolution.
Americans were exceeded in their ignorance only by Turks.

Posted by: AtlantaDem | September 10, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm

McCain-Palin = more Enron, Tyco, and Worldcom type fraudulent scandals!

Posted by: CommonSense | September 10, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm

Sorry, Samantha, but many of us do care about these issues. Particularly those of us who are independents, that is not registered with either party. And guess what, there are hundreds of thousands of us. We can tip the election!

Posted by: MJG | September 10, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm

This comment was “almost” a slick move by Obama. He gives his base some red meat (did you see the way they all reacted at the rally?), and then gets to pretend like he didn’t mean anything by it. Of course he was taking a subtle jab at Palin. Everyone knows it. It was kind of clever, as far as the play on words. I’m just not sure he wants to be spending all this time talking about lipstick rather than policy.

Posted by: Masher | September 10, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm

FACT
BARACK OBAMA IS NOT A MUSLIM!
FACT
THE REPUBLICAN LEAD ECONOMY IS A MESS
FACT
NO HEALTHCARE UNDER MCCAIN
FACT
95% OF AMERICANS WILL BE BETTER OFF UNDER BARACK OBAMA ON AVERAGE $2500-$5500 BETTER OFF!
FACT
MCCAIN IS MORE OF THE SAME VOTED WITH BUSH 90% OF THE TIME IN THE LAST 7 YEARS!
FACT
MCCAIN VOTED WITH GEORGE BUSH 100% OF THE TIME THIS YEAR!
CHANGE IS BARACK OBAMA

Posted by: Deb | September 10, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm

As a POW, McCain gave out more than “name, rank, and serial number!” McCain gave the enemy the location of his base as well as the target he was going to bomb. He also told them his father was the famous Admiral McCain. In return, for giving out confidential, classified information in violation of the US military Code of Conduct, McCain was given preferential treatment by his captors. Upon McCain’s POW release and return to the states, within 1 month McCain divorced his first wife, Carol (she was a former model), because in the 3rd year of her loyal waiting for her POW husband and father of their 3 children to return, on Christmas eve while in route to deliver Christmas presents to family friends she was injured in a car wreck that required 20 operations and left her with weight gain and a limp. In total violation of biblical teaching, that states flatly that divorce is allowable only for adultery, McCain ditched Carol and married Cindi; hence, McCain and Cindi are committing adultery before our eyes. Bristol Palin, the daughter of McCain’s VP nominee, is an unwed, teenage pregnant mother having committed adultery in violation of Biblical teaching. McCain-Palin=Adultery First! McCain-Palin=Broker than the 10 commandments! Too bad McCain-Palin actions are in direct contrast to their Christian right-wing holier than thou attitudes and policies.

Posted by: CommonSense | September 10, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm

Back to the issues. That’s it. I’ve just spent a ridiculous amount of time trying to find McCain’s plan to ensure political reconciliation in Iraq–one of the critical goals according to his own website’s issues page–we must achieve in order to bring our troops home in victory and honor. But nothing, nada. I’m shocked! It’s looking more and more like McCain doesn’t have a plan to bring this war to an end. There is no political or diplomatic aspect to his Iraqi strategy. Yes, he was resolute about the Surge and I admire that. But we all know it wasn’t just the Surge that brought about a decline in violence in Iraq. The Sunni Awakening, a change in tactics for dealing with irreconcilables, Petraeus’ sheer brilliance as a military leader, as well as other factors not only contributed, but perhaps contributed even more to our recent military success.
You may not agree with Obama’s plan for trying to bring this war to an end, but at least he has one! The more I look at McCain, the more I find there’s no there, there. There’s no plan to get us out of Iraq. It’s just stay the course, stand up and fight, and hope things eventually change. Wow! That scares me, far more any uncertainty about Obama’s strategy, because don’t tell me the terrorists wouldn’t just love to see us mired in Iraq for years, emotionally and financially bankrupted by a war with no end.

Posted by: Jackie B. | September 10, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm

FACT
MCCAIN VOTED AGAINST LIFTING THE MINIMUM WAGE EVERY YEAR FOR THE LAST 14 YEARS!

Posted by: Deb | September 10, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm

THE 4156 DECEASED HEROES PUT COUNTRY FIRST. RANK….NAME…SERIAL NUMBER.

Posted by: WhereDoesItEnd | September 10, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm

I guess the Republicans must really think Sarah Palin is a pig if they believe he was referring to her when Obama wasn’t even mentioning her.
I could see if Obama had said “He’s got some pig in lipstick as VP…”; that would be addressing Palin. He was talking about McCain’s economic policies.
If I said in public “The opera ain’t over ’til the fat lady sings,” are Aretha Franklin fans going to think I’m insulting her.
This shows you what kind of nonsense you’ll get if you vote McCain/Palin in November. No issues, no solutions, all smokescreen tactics.
C’mon wake up America and know who you are voting for – demand the truth!

Posted by: Loa C | September 10, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm

Obama was a law professor at Chicago school of law for thirteen years…teaching constitutional law….heavily recruited…Sarah Palin was a hockey mom and mayor of a 6000 person town two years ago. I guess intellect isn’t valued anymore in this country…in that case stop sending your kids to school…it doesnt matter anyway…they dont need to know much..only to be gutsy..gritty…someone like yourself? Its not gutsy to get a mayor job in a tiny town…its gutsy to work your butt off at the best colleges in the world and be challenged by some of the best teachers in the world..maybe you should try getting a law degree from harvard and then teaching constitutional law for thirteen years…for some reason that seems far fetched.

Posted by: Jeff | September 10, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm

McCain: Economic plan cost American people $5 trillion dollars – most money goes to the ultra-rich
Obama: Economic plan cost American people $3 trillion dollars – most money goes to the middle class
Both plans suck. Obama’s sucks less.

Posted by: johnTX | September 10, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm

Honestly, who cares? I’m glad you have nothing else to worry about, Tapper. Grow up.

Posted by: Eric Wedel | September 10, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm

To No Obama 08 – Americans are only on average $600 better off over the past 8 years, so $2500 to $5500 sounds pretty significant to me…. have a little gander through FactCheck.org, its amazing what educating yourself can do

Posted by: lex_soho | September 10, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm

John S. McCain : “The Vietnam War was unwinnable.”
Though expressing anger at the North Vietnamese, McCain seemed to harbor almost no ill will toward Americans who had opposed the war. The more he read, the more he thought that America’s political and military leaders had served the country badly. The Pentagon Papers—the secret study of Vietnam decision-making—convinced him that the generals and admirals, including his father, had long known that the war was unwinnable unless the United States was willing to bomb millions of Vietnamese civilians to death. He believed that the military leadership should have resigned.
Vanity Fair, December 1999

Posted by: AtlantaDem | September 10, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm

Who needs executive experience to run a company when they will just be bailed out by taxpayers?

Posted by: WhereDoesItEnd | September 10, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm

Obama needs to sue the 4ell out of the McScam campaign for the defamation of character. He needs to sue them and announce it publicly. McCain needs to be made more careful about what he says too, not just obama having to worry about saying anything and being jumped on. Obama hAasn’t said anything untruthful about McCain that wasn’t true, but McCain has done nothing but slander Obama. If McCain’s records were opened up to the public, people would see the true John McCain for what he is. He is NO war hero with only 20 hours of flying time and he wasn’t tortured to the extent he makes everyone believe. Let’s unseal his records They went into Kerry’s records in 2004, so let’s get McCain’s out in the open. It helps to have a four star admiral for a daddy who covered up all of John McCain’s misdeeds. Nothing should be off limits about McCain just as nothing is off limits about the other candidates. Including McCain’s war record, which some of those who were with him at Hanoi Hilton said his war hero status is GREATLY exaggerated.
This piece of feces needs to have the h_e_l_l sued out of him. He’s a liar and full of corrupt associations and with a corrupt political record too.

Posted by: Dr. Detroit | September 10, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm

IN YOUR GUTS YOU KNOW HE’S NUTS!
Presidential candidate John McCain has survived five plane crashes, four melanomas, and more than five years as a prisoner of war in North Vietnam, enduring torture and solitary confinement. There would be questions about his health and his fitness for the office he seeks even if he weren’t 72 YEARS OLD, and even if he weren’t likely to be running against a man 25 years his junior.
After repeated pledges to do so going back more than a year, the McCain campaign FINALLY released information about the Arizona Republican’s health history. The release covers the year 2000 forward, a period when McCain had three of his four skin cancers removed, as well as lymph nodes and part of a salivary gland. It will not, however, include McCain’s psychiatric records, which McCain allowed a select group of reporters to examine in 1999 but have never been released to the public. The new information is unlikely to quash recurring questions about McCain’s age, his bouts with cancer, or how his experience in Vietnam may have affected his mind .
By Mark Benjami
Salon.com May 22, 2008 |

Posted by: AtlantaDem | September 10, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm

I’ve voted over 90% of the time with President Bush, even higher than some of my republican collegues.
BUSH’D

Posted by: I Approve This Message | September 10, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm

Please No obama, Palin is the Governor of an *actual* welfare state.
Compared to Obama, Palin is a freaking communist.

Posted by: johnTX | September 10, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm

Imagine applying for a job and having to reveal that you are under to ethics investigations by the legislature of your state by a bipartisan 12-0 vote to investigate. How many of you think you would be hired? Yet, McCain hired such a person to be the Vice President of the United States of America! 2 ethics probes for abuse of power. As mayor, she fired the librarian cause the librarian wouldn’t remove books that Palin thought violated her “christian” teaching. I wonder what books her daughter, Bristol, was reading…hmmmmmm

Posted by: CommonSense | September 10, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm

McCain Campaign:
How does that blowback taste.
Never throw crap in a fan.

Posted by: Omentum | September 10, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm

Palin: 100s of people can vouch for her accomplishments.
Obama: No accomplishment and nobody to vouch for them. He was blowing weed all through high school & college, but the media has failed to interview his college buddies, or his Scandinavian live in girlfriend.

Posted by: Colonel Reb | September 10, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm

The Bush/McCain “Surge” just like the Iraq War itself was just another Republican political strategy.
In his latest book, The Washington Post’s Bob Woodward reveals strategies governing the war in Iraq coming directly from President Bush and his inner circle. Scott Pelley reports:
The president announced the surge decision Jan. 10, 2007. Five more brigades would go to Baghdad; 4,000 Marines would head to Anbar province.
The next morning, he went to Fort Benning, Ga., to address military personnel and their families. His decision had been opposed by Casey and Abizaid, his military commanders in Iraq. Pace and the Joint Chiefs, his top military advisers, had suggested a smaller increase, if any at all. Schoomaker, the Army chief, had made it clear that the five brigades didn’t really exist under the Army’s current policy of 12-month rotations. But on this morning, the president delivered his own version of history.
“The commanders on the ground in Iraq, people who I listen to — by the way, that’s what you want your commander-in-chief to do. You don’t want decisions being made based upon politics or focus groups or political polls. You want your military decisions being made by military experts. They analyzed the plan, and they said to me and to the Iraqi government: ‘This won’t work unless we help them. There needs to be a bigger presence.’ ” Bush went on, “And so our commanders looked at the plan and said, ‘Mr. President, it’s not going to work until — unless we support — provide more troops.’ “

Posted by: AtlantaDem | September 10, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm

Obama lacks… class and style its funny to watch a community organizer stumble

Posted by: SeanBean | September 10, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm

McCain – his face has more
wrinkles than his brain.

Posted by: anon | September 10, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm

It got to be Stupid:
All those who have stupid written on their face when they wake up every morning cast your vote now for “Stupid am I” and McCain/Bush as my masters.
While these bloggers want to talk about lipstick, the Russians have pulled out of NATO, are practicing War games off of South America, told the Republican lead Executive Branch (BUSH) to kiss their a. moved warships into the Black Sea, had secret meetings with China and Middle Asian leaders, DEFEID THE PRESENTS OF ANTI-BILLIST MISSILSE IN NETHERLAND.
WE AMERICANS WANT TO TALK ABOUT AN ATTACK ON PALIN. YOU SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT WHAT SHE WOULD DO IF RUSSIA ATTACKED AMERICA.
WILL SHE JUST PUSH THE BUTTON AND END LIFE, AS WE KNOW IT.
WILL SHE HAVE THE SUPPORT OF OTHER COUNTRIES TO WARD OFF SUCH AN ATTACK?
WILL SHE RUN BACK TO ALASKA AND AVOID QUESTION THAT SHE DOES NOT HAVE ANSWER TO?
AMERICANS SHOULD BE SMARTER THAN THAT.
I THINK THAT McCAIN AND BUSH ARE TRYING TO TOUCH ON IGNORANCE OF SOME AMERICANS TO PROMOTE THEIR AGENDA OF FOUR MORE YEARS OF “SCREW YOU” (NO JOB GROWTH, WIDENING GAP OF RICH AND POOR).
WE SUPPORTED THE TALIBAN TO FIGHT THE RUSSIANS, NOW PAKISTAN IS TURNING IT’S BACK ON AMERICA WITH A STATEMENT TODAY THAT SAID, “AMERICA MUST NOT CROSS OUR BORDERS TO STOP THE TALIBAN”.
THE CHICKENS HAVE COME HOME TO ROOST.
WHAT WE DID TO STOP RUSSIA FROM ELIMINATING THE TALIBAN HAS COME FULL CIRCLE.
LIPSTICK. WHAT A FOOL WILL ENGAGE IN JAKE.
McCAIN/PALIN will lead us down the path of more Americans being as they call it whiners, as we, Americans become enslaved by the rich LOBBIEST.
McCain may have one of his suicide moments and Palin will become President ALL because he was behind in the POLLS.
America’s future will lie in the hands, as the Republicans Right put it, [a good looking past beauty queen WHO DESCRIBES HERSELF AS A PITBULL (DOG FIGHTING IS ILLEGAL ASK M. VICK)].
While 90% of Americans will not have a home and will live a life of poverty as a lot of THIRD WORLD NATIONS, the Rich will have theirs.
Obama with the support of REAL TRUE LOVING AMERICANS can change that by putting the PEOPLE FIRST.
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
IF YOU DWELL ON GLOOM AND DOOM, THEN SHOOT YOURSELF, AND LET THE REST OF AMERICANS STRIVE ON FOR A BETTER TOMORROW.
OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT, THE ISSUES MATTER.
McCAIN HAS MADE A BAD CHOICE FOR VICE PRESIDENT CAN WE AFFORD 4 YEARS OF BAD CHOICES. (BUSH/BROWNIE) (TOP ADVISOR OF THE DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR, {OIL SCANDALS))

Posted by: Underdog | September 10, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm

I’m actually not a loser, I do quite nicely for myself living in NYC and working in banking, but thanks for lowering the discussion level. I was simply trying to apply some fact to your statement.
I also am quite happy to pay taxes as I believe in social responsibility and helping those less fortunate than I.

Posted by: lex_soho | September 10, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm

Voters aren’t as dumb as people think.
They will make rational choices after listening to speeches, interviews, and debates.
I feel confident that most people will chose John McCain and Sarah Palin to lead our country.

Posted by: John | September 10, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm

1993 – Haiti…Mr. President, get us out!!!
1994 – Somalia…Mr. President, get us out!!!
1999 – Bosnia…Mr. President, get us out!!!
2001 – Afghanistan…Mr. President, we can muddle through!!!
2003-infinity – Iraq…Mr. President, the surge against al-Queda in Iran is working!!!

Posted by: I Know How To Win Wars | September 10, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm

We should all be in awe of her executive experience of managing a welfare state.
I’m sure she’ll be able to apply the hard lessons of taxing oil companies and giving cash handouts to citizens to our problems in the non-Saudi part of the United States.

Posted by: johnTX | September 10, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm

Tango, I am an Obama supporter who was a diehard Clinton supporter. I never turned my back on Hillary. So you haven’t got it quite right about Democrats! Real Democrats understand that they don’t always get their way in elections and move on to support the nominee because we know that our party will represent the common man rather than give huge tax breaks to already rich people who are so greedy they can’t stand the thought of giving up one penny for anything except to fight senseless wars in Iraq. Republicans know the price of everything and the value of nothing. That is why I am a Democrat who is now for Obama and I was, and am, a big Hillary fan! Palin is a pale comparison to Hillary. She stands for nothing Hillary stands for.

Posted by: Two-cats | September 10, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm

The McCain Campaign uses these hate lobbyist against Obama. These shameful people haveworked with the following companies. Lets stop supporting them ASAP until they denounce McCain. Let’s stick together and ban these businesses: Google, Verizon, US Airways, Dell, Fannie Mae, General Motors, United Technologies, Hewlett Packard, Exxon and Land of Lakes. And If McCain wins lets boycott these companies and FOX news.

Posted by: kim | September 10, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm

Obama is trying so hard to SPIN his as usual political elite comment
and trying so hard to CHANGE the subject and blaming McCain for his mistakes.
Obama will not even own up to his callous sexist comment. This is how the DNC
treat their women and this is not the first time it happen, try last primary with how
they treated Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: 2nfer | September 10, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm

Actually maybe Palin will be able to apply her hardcore executive experience as Mayor, where she ran the city into the ground and left it with a massive budget deficit.
Personally I prefer her executive experience in managing the welfare state of Alaska, but I’m not entirely sure how she’ll be able to tax the oil companies enough to hand everyone in the US their check. Well, maybe that really only works in Saudi Alaska.

Posted by: johnTX | September 10, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm

Bravo Lex. The problem with people today is that ALL they care about is making a million bucks. That’s success in a nutshell! Some where in the definition of success there has to be some significant mention of humanity. And in my opinion – if it takes having an infant who has disabilities to FINALLY understand the struggle of other similar parents, then you shouldn’t be in the business of public service.

Posted by: WhereDoesItEnd | September 10, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm

IS JOHN MCCAIN AGAINST TORTURE?
No war crimes were committed against McCain. And the techniques used are, according to the president, tools to extract accurate information. And so the false confessions that McCain was forced to make were, according to the logic of the Bush administration, as accurate as the “intelligence” we have procured from “interrogating” terror suspects. Feel safer? Now the kicker: in the Military Commissions Act, McCain acquiesced to the use of these techniques against terror suspects by the CIA. And so the tortured became the enabler of torture. Someone, somewhere cried out in pain for the same reasons McCain once did. And McCain let it continue. These are the prices people pay for power.

Posted by: AtlantaDem | September 10, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm

After reading through this long list of comments, it appears to me that with very few exceptions, the majority of us (regardless of our party preference) know virtually nothing about what we are talking about and are just making a lot of smoke and noise

Posted by: R. Arendsee | September 10, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm

Worth repeating…
IS JOHN MCCAIN AGAINST TORTURE?
No war crimes were committed against McCain. And the techniques used are, according to the president, tools to extract accurate information. And so the false confessions that McCain was forced to make were, according to the logic of the Bush administration, as accurate as the “intelligence” we have procured from “interrogating” terror suspects. Feel safer? Now the kicker: in the Military Commissions Act, McCain acquiesced to the use of these techniques against terror suspects by the CIA. And so the tortured became the enabler of torture. Someone, somewhere cried out in pain for the same reasons McCain once did. And McCain let it continue. These are the prices people pay for power.

Posted by: mark | September 10, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm

MCCAIN ALREADY TOOK ONE OATH AND BROKE IT!
U.S. MILITARY CODE OF CONDUCT
I. I am an American, fighting in the forces which guard my country and our way of life. I am prepared to give my life in their defense.
II. I will never surrender of my own free will. If in command, I will never surrender the members of my command while they still have the means to resist.
III. If I am captured I will continue to resist by all means available. I will make every effort to escape and to aid others to escape. I will accept neither parole [early release] nor special favors from the enemy.
IV. If I become a prisoner of war, I will keep faith with my fellow prisoners. I will give no information or take part in any action which might be harmful to my comrades. If I am senior, I will take command. If not, I will obey the lawful orders of those appointed over me and will back them up in every way.
V. When questioned, should I become a prisoner of war, I am bound to only give name, rank, service number, and date of birth. I will evade answering further questions to the utmost of my ability. I will make no oral or written statements disloyal to my country and its allies or harmful to their cause.
VI. I will never forget that I am an American, fighting for freedom, responsible for my actions, and dedicated to the principles which made my country free. I will trust in my God and in the United States of America.
The Military Code of Conduct is the definitive code specifying the responsibility of American Military Personnel while in combat or captivity.
vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain

Posted by: Deb | September 10, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm

For a guy that doesn’t like Obama that much, O’Reilly sure was begging for a job in Obama’s administration. “If I beat you in a game of basketball one-on-one, I wanna be Secretary of State.” Hannity, el Rushbo, and Ann Coulter are next!!!

Posted by: BruhMan | September 10, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm

I don’t find this article or ABC’s reporting on this issue to be an honest look at events. John McCain took something Obama said completely out of context to slander him. I guess securing the first Sarah Palin interview means ABC goes soft on Republican smear tactics. Shame on you.

Posted by: Em | September 10, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm

Tens of thousands of dollars in taxes you pay…yeah right, and you spend time on blogs…okay!!!

Posted by: BeuhMan | September 10, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm

NOBAMA – you must be talking about these companies the government keeps bailing out with OUR money. Is it just me or some of the LAZIEST people I know have great jobs and that alone allows them to call others lazy. Lazy is Lazy and employment has nothing to do with it. Actually it’s stealing and felonious.

Posted by: WhereDoesItEnd | September 10, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm

Someone stop him before he hurts himself. I have never seen a nervous breakdown on the major media before.
Even Biden is regretting getting stuck with this buffoon.

Posted by: paulejb | September 10, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm

Oh, I care about an extra $2000 because I’m human and everyone likes more money…..right now there is a pair of Jimmy Choo’s I’ve been eyeing.
And yes, there are lazy people out there. And some money will go to them. But it will also go to handicapped people, mentally ill, disadvantaged people, those trapped in a cycle of poverty. And not everyone has an 128 IQ, not everyone can get a great job, that doesn’t mean they should be denied basic rights to a quality of life.

Posted by: lex_soho | September 10, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm

DEB>>>thanks for the excellent and enlightening post! Most people are unaware of what a fake POW McCain is! He is not qualified to be President nor Commander-in-Chief. He is morally bankrupt, as evidenced by his breaking the military code of conduct, as evidenced by how he dumped his first wife due to her car wreck, as evidenced by his pick of Palin. McCain needs to gamble Cindi’s money at a riverboat casino, where he can sit at a slot machine and enjoy his few remaining years!

Posted by: CommonSense | September 10, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm

This is boring, I am going to the drudgereport. The liberals have been saying the same thing over and over again…”Change,Change,Change” for the past year, but when asked what kind of Change, they answer “Change”. On here, it is even worse, I agree with No Obama that this is nothing more than recycled talking points from MSNBC & CNN. Like Ann Coulter said, if they had any brains they’d be republicans.
NeoCons rejoice, November 4th, the 28th anniversary of the election of the greatest American President Ronald Reagan will be honored with the election of McCain and Palin. Another 55 days of this crap and Obama will just be a walking stutter in search of a teleprompter.

Posted by: Barry AuH2O | September 10, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm

America…your own stupidity in electing President’s who shun the rest of the world and run up massive deficits is now reaping the grave consequences. Your days as the world’s sole superpower are over. If the Russian’s don’t kick you militarily..which they certainly have the power to do…the Chinese will do so economically. The world will say “we told you so” when the Chinese dump the bonds that have financed the multi-trillion dollar debt. Enjoy your depression!!

Posted by: mike | September 10, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm

I can’t help but notice, most of you are using rumors built up by the media as your logic. Sorry but it makes you look stupid.

Posted by: obamawho08 | September 10, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm

Do Obama’s days of community organizing include the waves of violence and poverty we see and hear on the news? If not he must not have inspired too much HOPE and certainly no CHANGE in his own neighborhood.
No thanks, Mr Obama, please stay in your neighborhood.

Posted by: no obama 08 | September 10, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm

lex_soho, Good for you. If you want to help those less fortunate, may I suggest making donations to your charity of choice. Don’t use the government tax system (which is just bloated red tape) to make it. Who wants to pay more taxes!!! NOT ME!

Posted by: DanDan | September 10, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm

If Palin hadn’t used that joke it would not have come back at her. I didn’t think it was that funny. But I wonder if it was a set-up. Speech written for her and all that.

Posted by: AnnD52 | September 10, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm

“But, you know, when you’ve been taking all these earmarks when it’s convenient, and then suddenly you’re the champion anti-earmark person, that’s not change. Come on! I mean, words mean something, you can’t just make stuff up.” (OBAMA)
_________________
Note how this time, “words mean something. you can’t just make stuff up.”
(chuckle)
In any case, I have no argument against earmarks……
If there’s a need for something and the government can help, fine and dandy!
B U T. I have an aversion to having my taxed monies winding up in some legislator’s back pocket!
Sarah Palin’s earmarks were used as they were supposed to be….. for the good of her state.
Obamah’s were used to help some Illinois groups…. BUT a lot of the gold dust from his earmarks wound up lining his pockets and freezer as political pork!
As a citizen, I resent that!

Posted by: america*centric | September 10, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm

John McCain has no executive experience!

Posted by: CommonSense | September 10, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm

What do you people think is going to happen when Obama becomes president and has no idea what to do when our country is threatened again. If we would happen to go into war once again I would trust McCain who is going to show no mercy. Obama would be a push over… Not what we need right now

Posted by: obamawho08 | September 10, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm

lex_soho
Your reasoning is on par with the other dems on here:
“I’ll vote for Obama, that way I get an extra $2000, and can finally buy those Jimmy Choo’s.”
Please stay home Nov 4th, you are obviously a liberal.

Posted by: no obama 08 | September 10, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm

Obama supporters do not give these lobbyist tied mccain companies your money…..
Google, Verizon, US Airways, Dell, Fannie Mae, General Motors, and United Technologies, Hewlett Packard, Exxon and Land of Lakes. And If McCain wins lets boycott these companies and FOX news.

Posted by: kim | September 10, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm

Obama supporters do not give these lobbyist tied mccain companies your money…..
Google, Verizon, US Airways, Dell, Fannie Mae, General Motors, and United Technologies, Hewlett Packard, Exxon and Land of Lakes. And If McCain wins lets boycott these companies and FOX news.

Posted by: kim | September 10, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm

Palin will see to it !
Hillary will never be the first woman anything!
Palin will be the first female VP and President!
Watch this space Clinton is the with no place to go!!
Palin is a true American.
Posted by: GOP SMILE
————————————–
Hillary had more class than palin ever will!
Lets hope biden drops out and Hillary schools this Palin woman!
OBAMA/biden/Clinton 08

Posted by: Deb | September 10, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm

Obama is trying so hard to SPIN his as usual political elite comment
and trying so hard to CHANGE the subject and blaming McCain for his mistakes.
Obama will not even own up to his callous sexist comment. This is how the DNC
treat their women and this is not the first time it happen, try last primary with how
they treated Hillary Clinton!!!

Posted by: 2nfer | September 10, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm

The Republican party is for the rich and people who pretend that they are rich and there are a lot of pretenders in this country and on this blog..the pretenders..they don’t have money but live on credit cards and try to fool people that they are rich..much like this country which portends to be the richest country in the world yet owe China and Japan trillions of dollars. The country’s economy is going down the tubes(thanks to the Republicans)..many of these people have lost their jobs,homes etc but are going to vote Republican party and John(the wealthy)McCain..just to tell people that they voted Republican hoping that people would think they are well off/rich. There are a lot of fakers in this country and that is why they are attracted to the Republican party a party of Fakers..talk about family values and believing in the sanctity of life yet would support a war where thousands of innocent people died. Talk about God yet when Katrina did its destruction and Emperor Bush took very long to respond(wink,wink) the so called christians(in the Bible Belt) did not say a word against that ungodly response by Emperor Bush. The Republican party are much better than the Democratic party in putting out negative ads,spin, and deception(Party of values). I don’t know why people are not being open and frank..Obama is not going to win..he is not white! He made a good run but his race is his biggest obstacle..we will see a black,hispanic,chinese, jewish president around 2024.. Its that plain and simple..many whites who voted for him in the primary are going to vote for McCain in the general elections..does that make them racist? I don’t think so!..Its just a matter of “voting someone who looks like you” So get ready for McCain/Palin in November. wake up America! Heaven help us all and save us from the Republicans!

Posted by: Stanley | September 10, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm

LOL…Cindi McCain actually said that Alaska is near Russia, so, Palin has all the foreign policy experience she needs! What a Crock and waste of plastic surgery.

Posted by: CommonSense | September 10, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm

There wasn’t a major al-Qaida attack in 2003. Nor in 2004, 2005, 2006 or 2007. Manifestly, liberals thought there would be: They announced a standard of success that they expected Bush to fail.
As Bush has said, we have to be right 100 percent of the time, the terrorists only have to be right one time. Bush has been right 100 percent of the time for seven years — so much so that Americans have completely forgotten about the threat of Islamic terrorism.

Posted by: SeanBean | September 10, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm

Someone stop him before he hurts himself. I have never seen a nervous breakdown on the major media before.
Even Biden is regretting getting stuck with this buffoon.
________________________________________
No doubt! Biden looks like he hates every minute of this campaign and Obama seems to be out there all on his own. Obama is a moron who made a HUGE mistake not choosing Hillary. In all honesty Obama does not seem to be a Team player. He seems like an egotist so his chemistry with Biden is zero. All of Obama’s speeches seem canned and phony.

Posted by: Samantha | September 10, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm

SEXISM is just as bad as racism, its equally hateful and bigoted, and Obama needs to stop with this stuff. First Hillary, now Sarah…

Posted by: T | September 10, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm

You mean like on October 26, 1967…when McCain showed no mercy and was shot down on his 23rd mission in VietNam? If this is showing no mercy, I say spare us the faux heroism!!!

Posted by: BruhMan | September 10, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm

kim
Calling for a boycott on a fast moving forum makes you a liberal.
Maybe Obama can join you in January, he will have plenty of time.

Posted by: no obama 08 | September 10, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm

For his thanks, President Bush has been the target of almost unimaginable calumnies — the sort of invective liberals usually reserve for seniors who don’t separate their recyclables properly. Compared to liberals’ anger at Bush, there has always been something vaguely impersonal about their “anger” toward the terrorists.
By my count, roughly one in four books in print in the world at this very moment have the words “Bush” and “Lie” in their title.

Posted by: SeanBean | September 10, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm

Palin’s proposals are ridiculous. She is under investigation!!

Posted by: CommonSense | September 10, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm

Man, I wish Dave would stay out of politics. He’s dragging himself down to their level.

Posted by: ME | September 10, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm

FACT
BARACK OBAMA IS NOT A MUSLIM!
FACT
THE REPUBLICAN LEAD ECONOMY IS A MESS
FACT
NO HEALTHCARE UNDER MCCAIN
FACT
95% OF AMERICANS WILL BE BETTER OFF UNDER BARACK OBAMA ON AVERAGE $2500-$5500 BETTER OFF!
FACT
MCCAIN IS MORE OF THE SAME VOTED WITH BUSH 90% OF THE TIME IN THE LAST 7 YEARS!
FACT
MCCAIN VOTED WITH GEORGE BUSH 100% OF THE TIME THIS YEAR!
CHANGE IS BARACK OBAMA
FACT
MCCAIN VOTED AGAINST LIFTING THE MINIMUM WAGE EVERY YEAR FOR THE LAST 14 YEARS!

Posted by: Deb | September 10, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm

Lol, No Obama, I was trying to make a joke (albeit admittedly pretty poor), and I certainly do not make my voting decision based on how much crap I can buy.
And yes, I am a liberal, I’m not sure how you missed that blaring issue in all my prior postings. But it is unfair to ask me to stay home. This becomes a pretty boring country if either side thinks only their party has the right to make decisions, and our leaders are left untested. Perhaps McCain will win, but I hope its after having to answer some pretty difficult questions (convincingly)

Posted by: lex_soho | September 10, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm

….4156 DECEASED TROOPS.

Posted by: WhereDoesItEnd | September 10, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm

Obama is doing the same thing he did to Sen Clinton when he flipped her during a speech. Now he takes a cartoon from
the Washington Post and adds the pig and fish part to tarnish Palin and McCain.
All I am hoping is for a change in the behaviour and actions of Obama.

Posted by: Indus | September 10, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm

Palin is a pitbull.
In 2005 a judge told her to back off her brother-in-law. Evidently Palin was trying to harass the guy and get him fired… even then. So much so that official court documents reveal that a judge told her to chill out.
Then, when she was governor, she fired someone for not carrying out her vendetta.

Posted by: blip | September 10, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm

Some of you people that are so anti Obama are incredulous. You’re as bad as McCain, making things up whole cloth. Go to factcheck and start researching.
Sarah’s earmarks are ok (despite her claiming she wants them stopped), at least she used them in her state. Yeah, she got the biggest pork project in history and then canned the project and kept the money. That was YOUR money.
Obama’s earmarks in the same year were $15 per resident of Il, Palens was hundreds of dollars per resident.
What’s shameful is that factcheck has called out McCain for misconstruing their info and citing their name. McCain’s being sued for illegal rights infringement for the songs he’s been using at his rallys. These two are breaking laws left and right and are as corrupt as they come, short of Bush and Cheney themselves.

Posted by: landlocked | September 10, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm

nonsense! It does not matter where the child of an American Citizen is born. They are still an American. Next!
….4156 DECEASED TROOPS

Posted by: WhereDoesItEnd | September 10, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm

Stanley,
I am a single parent, with a minimum wage job I don’t have the credit for a credi card. I am not wealthy probably never will be. I am a die-hard republican always will be and your stereotype is really starting to tick me off.

Posted by: obamawho08 | September 10, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm

Palin-McCain = pork barrel…

Posted by: CommonSense | September 10, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm

lex soho
Don’t stay home, go ahead and vote for Obama. You are right that it is not up to anyone who can and cannot vote. With that said, do you think Obama has been asked any hard questions on his associations and past? If so, you are living with your head in the sand.

Posted by: no obama 08 | September 10, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm

hey SeanBean! Bush has NOT been right about the terrorists 100% of the time! Who was in charge when we were attacked? W is in a very small club – two to be precise: the number of presidents who have been in charge when we were successfully attacked at home!

Posted by: Hamilton | September 10, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm

Even Biden is sick of it and now wants out:
“-Hillary Clinton is as qualified or more qualified than I am to be vice president of the United States of America,” Biden said. “Let’s get that straight. She’s a truly close personal friend; she is qualified to be president of the United States of America. She’s easily qualified to be vice president of the United States of America and quite frankly it might have been a better pick than me, but she is first-rate.”
No Joe, you’re fine, it’s the idiot of your boss that is not qualified.

Posted by: Rick | September 10, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm

I love it Blip!!!

Posted by: SarahNOTPalin | September 10, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm

Obama has a great sense of humor!
He’s fighting back in a tongue in check fashion. Kinda like a caricature of himself is being exposed. We have painted him so straight laced, and he has a very dry sense of humor. Now I am laughing so hard. Wow!!! Me thinks I just saw a pig fly!

Posted by: clarity | September 10, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm

well, lucky him to have so many media back him up.
whatelse will come up tomorrow? is that the “change”?
This kind of name calling trick can not bring him into the white house…this is a national election, not a regional or primary election….the more u attack, the less u gain, do u understand….

Posted by: question | September 10, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm

Obamawho08, can you please explain why you are a “diehard” Republican? And I ask that sincerely, I have my own personal views that lead me consider myself a liberal, and pretty much everyone I know is the same (I’ve mentioned that I live in NYC, although it is a pretty equal mix here).
I really do just want to understand how someone like yourself might consider oneself Republican (without silly stereotypes)

Posted by: lex_soho | September 10, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm

This Palin is a joke. Its only a matter of time, before the novelty wears off. All the candidates are vetted. Hillary was harassed by Sean Hanity type GOP for years.
Its Palins turn. She must be vetted, thoroughly. She is no queen.
Americans demand to know Who is Sarah Palin?
She is full of lies, GOP lies!!!

Posted by: Palinos | September 10, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm

I think Obama answered some pretty tough questions on the O’Reilly Factor the past few nights. Some answers were better than others, but I don’t think Bill threw any softballs and I was impressed with how Barack handled himself. There were a lot of issues left on the table for people to mull over….

Posted by: lex_soho | September 10, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm

Lexington Soho what do you think a republican looks like?

Posted by: Samantha | September 10, 2008, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm

Has anyone noticed that McCain has been reading word for word from the exact same script over and over again? Was there a budget cut for speech writers in the GOP? C’mon Maverick we want to here something our of YOUR own mouth. Not reading from the script your attorneys and Neo-Con handlers have put together for you. It’s been months since I’ve heard McCain actually answer a question without prep. What’s the party afraid of? Maybe he might say what he really thinks and loose the election?

Posted by: dan | September 10, 2008, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm

lex_soho
To be a die-hard Republican, you must believe in traditional family values, small government, and taking responsibility for one’s own actions.
Something the Democrats lost long, long ago.

Posted by: no obama 08 | September 10, 2008, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm

Palin and McSame are both idiots!
GOP lies and fools Americans!!!
Look how they got us into the WAR for WMD!!!
Ha, GOP has lots and lots of liars!

Posted by: Ryan | September 10, 2008, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm

So, as I read through some of these comments I realize that some of our citizens are not quite as bright as they would want us to believe they are. First for the “thaswimma” every candidate speech is written for them by advisers, to include your precious obama, and for the veterans against mcain the code of conduct you posted is incomplete, survive with honor, where was that quote? Well to a real soldier that means that even if you are beaten and bruised to the point that you break, then you will only lose honor if you cant admit it. Does that make sense? No, probbaly not for you sorry for you ignorance. For all of the lipstick lovers, the comment was clearly directed at GOV Palin, now think about it boys, she is quite the looker……..Just for general purpose…to all the Hillary supporters; you are correct, she would have been a better candidate, its a shame that a thug was able to push her out of the race, lastly I will close with this…..Sen McCain is clearly the only nominee with any leadership ablilities, he is a strong american, and will stand and defend our constitution and colors. Gov Palin is a wise and strong lady who will be able to support the commander in chief for eight years, until she is ready to be the perfect incumbent. Thanks for your time and remember vote McCain/ Palin 08 or else learn to speak arabic and chinese.

Posted by: jeremypenman | September 10, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm

As a former Pub the thing that scares me most about McSame is that he chose her without vetting this chick. They tried to hide this Teen Pregnancy crap until after the election. Pandering for the women vote.IT WAS DISGUSTING! Plus he has NO IDEAS ABOUT ANYTHING!Cause if they win all that’s off the table. If he’s being sneaky now how can I trust the short armed devil after the election? PAY ATTENTION WOMEN & SEE THROUGH HIM LIKE I DID!My vote can’t be pandered to. GO OBAMA!

Posted by: MemphisforObama | September 10, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm

jeremypenman, what kind of weasel of a man would divorce his wife because she was in a car wreck? Answer = John McCain

Posted by: CommonSense | September 10, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm

I am a diehard republican because I think that fighting for our country and true patriotism is something that should not be ignored. John McCain is not only a POW but a well respected veteran. He served our country bravely and understands what true patriotism really is. I want to put my country in the hands of someone who is well qualified and is willing to FIGHT for what is right and what they believe. NOT someone who is too worried about pissing other people off which no offense to you or any other liberals out there most democrats worry about about. Not only that they change their minds constantly because they want to agree with the people who are voting. John McCain would do what is right whethere we agree with him or not. He doesn’t just change his mind.

Posted by: obamawho08 | September 10, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm

what happened to fiscal responsibility? Greed? Religious fanaticism (aka TALABAN-ish!)?
I have not heard ONE die-hard take responsibility for the travesties of the past 8 years. Not one!

Posted by: WhereDoesItEnd | September 10, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm

I could respect McCain if he had respected his wedding vows that he made to his first, loyal, faithful, loving wife Carol, who waited patiently for him to return. But, the cowardly punk ditched her….and signed a “PRE-NUP”…to jigalow off Cindi’s money!

Posted by: CommonSense | September 10, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm

PLEASE tell me that the reason that McCain picked Palin was because of COUNTRY FIRST. BS! It was to appease Evangelicals. Period. This country is made up of more than Evangelicals. Why dodge the truth on issues. What are you afraid of if the selection was on the level? Admit it – it was a political strategy. Nothing wrong with that. Just don’t spin everything. People are not stupid.

Posted by: WhereDoesItEnd | September 10, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm

Obama did not deny it.
Obama did not say it wasn’t true.
Obama did not apologize for the inference.
Bob Beckel mentioned the joke a few days earlier.
Obama meant it.

Posted by: drjohn | September 10, 2008, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm

Palin doesn’t support legalizing marijuana …. Palin said she has smoked marijuana — But says’ “remember, it was legal under state law” even if illegal under U.S. law — but says she doesn’t smoke it now.
Palin: From article in USATODAY

Posted by: Deb | September 10, 2008, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm

Bush doesn’t change his mind either. Stay the course! I don’t want a President who can not humble himself to changing conditions. It just does not make a whole lot of sense. It’s like continuing to drive straight and ignoring the detour signs.

Posted by: WhereDoesItEnd | September 10, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm

WhereDoesItEnd
Of course it was a political strategy. What are we deciding on here, who will be the neighborhood block captain.
This pick will go down as one of the smartest, while BHO’s will go down as one of the dumbest. How’s that for decision making abilities?

Posted by: no obama 08 | September 10, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm

McCain is a person just like all of us, divorce is becoming more and more common and those of you still stuck in the past thinking its this horrible thing need a dose of reality.

Posted by: obamawho08 | September 10, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm

Hey TOUGH GUY – the right thing would have been to deploy troops to Saudi Arabia )home of most of the hijackers) or at the very least provide more special forces to Afghanistan to capture Osama. Being TOUGH for the sake of it is ignorant.

Posted by: WhereDoesItEnd | September 10, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm

Obama is trying so hard to SPIN his as usual political elite comment
and trying so hard to CHANGE the subject and blaming McCain for his mistakes.Obama will not even own up to his callous sexist comment. This is how the DNC treat their women and this is not the first time it happen, try last primary with how they treated Hillary Clinton!!!

Posted by: 2nfer | September 10, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm

_____________________________________
Because to each his own. This is the first time I am voting republican. Barack Obama will not do what he says he will. I live in Illinois. I know. So on your point whether someone would benefit from a house/senate controlled by the DEMS that is pretty presumptuous on your part.
The past year has been a journey for me politically and my values have been straying from the DNC for a while now. I am a more conservative DEM. I do not find the DNC to be an effective party. I think the leadership within the DNC is weak and mediocre at best. I think it sets a bad example when Clinton and Edwards, Condit, Spitzer. The DNC has some issues. Obama associates with corrupt people, the racist church. Ick.

Posted by: Samantha | September 10, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm

I think more of the same is bull. McCain and Bush are quite different.

Posted by: obamawho08 | September 10, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm

ok – then don’t call yourself a straight talker and blow COUNTRY FIRST BS up the pants of the American public on the motivation. She aint Hilary. Don’t campaign on I am my own man bs when you know you bent over for your party. That’s all.

Posted by: WhereDoesItEnd | September 10, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm

9/11 was a horrifically tragic event and yet many people living here have thought it through and disagree with the resulting reaction of war. It is particularly frustrating when it seems that many on the right look down in disgust on our lifestyle choices and standard of living and feel it would be acceptable to legislate telling us how to live, to have to continue to be a political tool

Posted by: lex_soho | September 10, 2008, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm

Since 1973, the US Supreme Court decision in Roe versus Wade has given choice to women about abortion as a private matter, exactly the same choice given to McCain to sin against his first wife, Carol, through adultery with his current wife, Cindi (Authority – King James Holy Bible on marriages in the eyes of God); exactly the same choice given to Bristol Palin to sin through adultery and unwed pregnancy (Authority – King James Holy Bible in the ten commandments). Obama understands that, since 1973, Roe versus Wade is not broken and does not need to be fixed. There are much higher priority issues affecting the country right now than “unborn” children. Even on that subject, research has clearly shown that Obama’s solution of comprehensive sex education and support care reduces the number of abortions, while abortions increased under Bush/McCain/Palin type policies. Obama understands that, it is the “already born” children and their parents in the middle class, the largest group of Americans, that need jobs and tax breaks right now, not just the small minority that makes over $250,000 per year- only about 2% of households. Obam/Biden = Fighting for the “the already born and unborn! ”McCain-Palin=Fighting faking for the “unborn” only… which group are you in???

Posted by: CommonSense | September 10, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm

I had hoped the GOP convention would have been an apology for the last 8 years. I would have voted for McCain if he had the courage to say sorry for all of the mistakes that the party has made.
But instead they just keep driving. The car’s in a ditch. The wheels spinning in the mud. The passengers are all dead. And old Johnnie has the pedal to the metal, with the stereo blaring a beer in his hand, and smoke coming from under the hood. As if nothing is wrong with their driving in the first place.

Posted by: blip | September 10, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm

WhereDoesItEnd
Obviously, you are scared of the Palin pick since you got your feelings hurt because didn’t pick a weaker running mate. This woman has deflated BHO’s campaign, with the help of the left-leaning media.
The irony here is going to be remembered long after your feelings heal.

Posted by: no obama 08 | September 10, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm

Really…think about it…things have to be prioritized. Should the “unborn” be given higher priority than the “born” who need jobs?

Posted by: CommonSense | September 10, 2008, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm

I LOST ALL respect for John McCain when they did that little 911 thing at their convention. I wasn’t going to vote for him anyway, but I had respect for him. Today – for the good of the COUNTRY I think he should have just come out and said LOOK – let’s get back to talking about the issues. He didn’t. I can only conclude that he believed that the comment was in reference to Palin. If in this simple case he can not discern the lies from truth then there are many who will conclude that his objectivity is flawed.

Posted by: WhereDoesItEnd | September 10, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm

In 1984, Mondale got an exactly similar “bump” when he added Geraldine Ferraro to his ticket; yet, after about 3 weeks, the balloon went flat and they were routed in a landslide. PREDICTION – the same fate awaits McCain/Failin…oops, I meant Palin!

Posted by: CommonSense | September 10, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm

CommonSense
Its called the McCain pander!
John McCain:
“I know nothing about the economy”
“BOOMB BOOMB BOOMB IRAN”

Posted by: Deb | September 10, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm

GOP Hypocrisy…….. double standard…………..
McCain using the phrase “Lipstick on a pig against Hillary Clinton”
http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=5770691
Why is America even tolerating such stinking hypocrisy?

Posted by: JohnS | September 10, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm

If we would have not gone to war, our country would have seemed weak. And we would have been prone to other attacks. We have to make sure other countries understand our power, because if certain countries caught hold we are not as strong as we seem, we would be in major trouble.

Posted by: obamawho08 | September 10, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm

If you are Repulican, please do not try to pretent to be Hillary supporter. We all know there is nothing in common between Hillary and Palin. I don’t think Hillary likes to be compared with Palin either. This is another reason why Hillary hasn’t even talked about her. Palin is just not at same level, she is far below.

Posted by: PHD | September 10, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm

WRONG …I am not afraid. I just don’t like a lot of BS. I prefer in your face lets talk about the issues politics which is lacking. Talking about Palin is not helping this country. Talk about what went wrong the past 8 years and stop hinting about it. Stop saying that your policies do not mirror Bush’s and PROVE it. AND stop the hypocrisy.

Posted by: WhereDoesItEnd | September 10, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm

I’ve been thinking a lot about the hockey mom/pitbull analogy.
And, at first, I thought it was corny. But now I think there is some truth to it, at least in Palin’s case.
Men with insecurities like to keep a pitbull to make them appear macho.
Pitbulls do not know the difference between the truth and a lie.
So, I’m sure there are some other commonalities…but I’ll leave the tricky ones to the scientists.

Posted by: bataille | September 10, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm

lex_soho>>>>>great point…I love it! The pro-life sentiment ends at birth, then life no longer continues to be important!

Posted by: CommonSense | September 10, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm

PHD.
I am a full OBAMA supporter.
I just wanted to allude to the fact that McCain is an hypocrite…
Palin is just another wolf in sheep’s clothing.

Posted by: JohnS | September 10, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm

WhereDoesItEnd
How does Obama “get back to the issues?” He used the time he was gonna spend talking education to attack back and then goes on Letterman to plead his case.
The rock star is fading, even the Democrats know it.

Posted by: no obama 08 | September 10, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm

LOOK…
…4156 TROOPS are dead so we could prove what? I don’t care if the mission was to get Saddam. A well placed missile into his palace would have resulted in the same violence and political chaos with a couple of exceptions. People would be alive – A LOT of people and the country would not be mired in debt. As a vet I resent the use of TROOPS for poorly defined military actions. FOR GOD SAKES…THEIR LIVES ARE IN OUR HANDS!

Posted by: WhereDoesItEnd | September 10, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm

NOBAMA he spoke in VA today did he not?

Posted by: WhereDoesItEnd | September 10, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm

“Barack is one of the smartest people you will ever encounter who will deign to enter this messy thing called politics.”
–Michelle Obama
The definition of deign is:
To condescend: do something that one considers to be below one’s dignity

Posted by: Samantha | September 11, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am

Here are some of your differences Where does it end,
1:Torture
While both George W. Bush and John McCain believe that the president has the power to interpret torture law in whatever manner he chooses, McCain has stated on numerous occasions that he would not condone torture if elected president–and that waterboarding and other “torture lite” techniques do, in fact, constitute torture.
Does this mean that we would see no torture under a McCain administration? No. We would continue to see unsanctioned torture, we would continue to see police torture, we would probably continue to see extraordinary rendition used to outsource torture to other nations, and we might even see use of a few torture lite techniques. But on the whole, we’d probably see less torture from McCain than we’ve seen from Bush.2. Immigration Reform
A year ago, George W. Bush and John McCain both agreed that immigration reform granting a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants was the right approach. But the Republican primaries introduced immigration as John McCain’s #1 liability, and he has since revised his position to say that until the border is secured, he will not entertain immigration reform proposals. The border between the United States and Mexico is 2,000 miles wide and cannot be secured, so this would amount to an indefinite moratorium. Don’t expect McCain to sign any major immigration reform proposal, at least not during his first term.3. Same-Sex Marriage
George W. Bush supports the Federal Marriage Amendment, a proposed federal constitutional amendment that would ban same-sex marriage in every state, while John McCain opposes it (not because he supports same-sex marriage, but because he opposes unnecessary federal intervention).
In theory the president’s position on constitutional amendments is not significant, since what is required is a two-thirds congressional majority and ratification by three-quarters of the states, but in practice it is unlikely that the amendment would resurface under a Republican president who opposes it. Even if Republicans take Congress back in 2010, don’t expect the Federal Marriage Amendment to become an issue. (It stands no serious chance of passing anyway.)4. Campaign Finance Reform
George W. Bush often cites First Amendment concerns when he speaks out against campaign finance reform proposals, and sometimes his concerns are, in fact, relevant to the First Amendment. McCain is a strong supporter of campaign finance reform, and would be more likely than Bush to sign any new campaign finance legislation that reaches his desk.5. The Draft
During the 2004 election, some supporters of Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry argued that the Bush administration

Posted by: obamawho08 | September 11, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am

No comment in Mr. Tapper’s blog about ABC’s decision to air the interview with Palin on 9/11?

Posted by: DRJanelHarris | September 11, 2008, 12:01 am 12:01 am

WhereDoesItEnd
Maybe they fought thinking that a democratic foothold in the Middle East is worth fighting for. Because in the long term it is.
God bless them all.

Posted by: no obama 08 | September 11, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am

Republicans are so jealous of Obama’s charisma…they thought they finally got their own “rock star”…but, what you jokes fail to remember is that Obama has been vetted for 19 months by the public. Governor Failin is being hidden in the closet, except to come out and read speeches written by Bush’s speechwriter! She WILL get vetted and it won’t be pretty! Not by Charles Gibson, he will give her tough questions like “what’s your favorite ice cream”…

Posted by: CommonSense | September 11, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am

Campaign Finance Reform
George W. Bush often cites First Amendment concerns when he speaks out against campaign finance reform proposals, and sometimes his concerns are, in fact, relevant to the First Amendment. McCain is a strong supporter of campaign finance reform, and would be more likely than Bush to sign any new campaign finance legislation that reaches his desk.

Posted by: obamawho08 | September 11, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am

These GOP folks have their heads in the SAND.
OBAMA presented a great deal about EDUCATION today. McCain doesn’t even have a plan.
Do you think that the Titanic could have been saved by the Iceberg? Forget about McCain.
Nobody believes McCain’s pandering and distractions.

Posted by: JohnS | September 11, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am

The Draft
During the 2004 election, some supporters of Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry argued that the Bush administration would reinstate the draft if Bush was reelected. Bush vehemently denied this, and has stated that he has no interest in reinstating the draft. But McCain has said that he would seriously consider reinstating the draft as president if he feels that it is necessary in order to achieve our military objectives.

Posted by: obamawho08 | September 11, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am

no obama 08 posted:
“To be a die-hard Republican, you must believe in traditional family values, small government, and taking responsibility for one’s own actions.
Something the Democrats lost long, long, long ago.”
By your own words and definition, Republicans aren’t even Republicans.
*Traditional Family Values: Until those are inconvenient.
*Small Government: The government has grown exponentially in the last 8 years. In addition it now spies on it’s own citizens.
*Taking responsibility for one’s own actions: See Hurricane Katrina, Iraq War, Bush Presidency, Karl Rove, Valerie Plame, Terry Shiavo.
So it’s more of the same indeed. Republicans are the party of double standards. (“It’s an abomination, unless we do it, then it’s ok.”

Posted by: landlocked | September 11, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am

ObamaWHO wrote: “If we would have not gone to war, our country would have seemed weak. And we would have been prone to other attacks. We have to make sure other countries understand our power, because if certain countries caught hold we are not as strong as we seem, we would be in major trouble.”
First of all, I don’t think there was a single person in the whole world who did not think that the US could destroy a third world country.
Second of all, how does doing a lousy job sacking a third world country… mismanaging it, stretching combat forces to the limit, bankrupting the treasury…. how does that prove that we are a force to be reckoned with? If anything, the Republicans make us look stupid and inept and immoral.
Third, how can you justify killing hundreds of thousands of Iraqi and ruining tens of thousands of American lives… just to create a commercial for American military might? It would be more convincing, I think, if we defeated the Taliban, caught bin Laden, and stablized Afghanistan.
I guess it takes a Republican to think that wars should be fought just to make a rhetorical point. (And then to fail at even doing that).

Posted by: blip | September 11, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am

Colin Powell mislead the United Nations with “FORGED DOCUMENTs”…Bush launched a “war of choice” on a sovereign nation…based on lies and deception…Cheney formulated our energy policy in secret with “big oil”…The Bush family was more involved in Enron and Ken Lay, Skilling, and Fastow than was known..for them it was a blessing that Lay died and took their secrets with him to the grave!

Posted by: CommonSense | September 11, 2008, 12:07 am 12:07 am

WhereDoesItEnd
Yes, he did. But my point is that after talking about something a serious as public education, he goes to do a fluff, comedic interview with Letterman.
BHO will be a has-been rock star at this time next year and all you Democrats know it. His community still needs A LOT of work.

Posted by: no obama 08 | September 11, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am

Every republican president that has been in office in my lifetime has managed to get this country into some kind of war. Only when we have Dems in the oval office does the economy flourish and we live in some degree of peace.

Posted by: landlocked | September 11, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am

We should have gone to war, we should not still be there today. Say what you want, we made the right choice.

Posted by: obamawho08 | September 11, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am

Electoral College Counts
Obama 281 McCain 230 Ties 27

Posted by: landlocked | September 11, 2008, 12:09 am 12:09 am

When we went to war with Panama, we got Noriega and that was it. Only an idiot would try to change an entire regime, when, all ya had to do was pluck out Saddam as we did Noriega>>>if that really was the issue. The “surge” was not necessary, cause, the reduction in violence has been from the fact that we “hired” all of Saddam’s former party members (The Awakening). We could have done that without any troops. BUSH/MCCAIN/FAILIN are slap idiots!

Posted by: CommonSense | September 11, 2008, 12:11 am 12:11 am

McCain and the rest of the Republicans had a pretty good foothold in Afghanistan.
Our military men and women fought and died to overthrow the Taliban.
But did Republican leadership take this military victory, and turn their statesmanship towards creating a “foothold for Democracy” there?
Nope… they squandered all the international goodwill and credibility and money trying to gin up a war in Iraq.
They sacrificed the hard won foothold for Democracy in Afghanistan so they could get a stranglehold on oil in Iraq.
So cool it with all this utopian nonsense about how altruistic the GOP has been in the Middle East.

Posted by: blip | September 11, 2008, 12:11 am 12:11 am

Nice summary, but none of those topics are major concerns in this election. Not to demean their importance, but in reality the Economy, War, Foreign Policy and perhaps abortion are what most voters are paying closest attention to. I don’t believe in torture, but honestly I’m not going to lose sleep over it. Same sex marriage, in reality they are both the same other than McCain is a federalist which is a little more appealing. Same sex marriage- I personally do not feel it’s anyone’s business and do not feel immoral because of that position. Maybe it’s me – but if he wants to distance himself from Bush on major policy,then he should address it.

Posted by: WhereDoesItEnd | September 11, 2008, 12:11 am 12:11 am

A phony is always a phony; he can hide, he could explain it away for one or two, but he will show time and again.
When His Nothingness Zerobameus has no substance, and he tells you they are going to tell you Zero-bama has no substance. He proves to you that he has “substance” because he knew he has no substance. It’s substance, isn’t it?

Posted by: d0 | September 11, 2008, 12:12 am 12:12 am

We should have gone to war, yes ObamaWho, but we went to war with Iraq and not to war with the terrorists that attacked us. They are still out there and now stronger than pre-9/11. The military was diverted to pursue Bush’s vendetta against Saddam and we deposed him. He was a bad man no doubt. Good riddance. We still do not have Bin Laden’s head on a pike. WHY NOT?

Posted by: landlocked | September 11, 2008, 12:13 am 12:13 am

speak in circles much d0?

Posted by: landlocked | September 11, 2008, 12:13 am 12:13 am

Like I said before Bush has made many mistakes. McCain will show no mercy and find the right people.

Posted by: obamawho08 | September 11, 2008, 12:14 am 12:14 am

The “surge” was not necessary, cause, the reduction in violence has been from the fact that we “hired” all of Saddam’s former party members (The Awakening). We could have done that without any troops. BUSH/MCCAIN/FAILIN are slap idiots!

Posted by: CommonSense | September 11, 2008, 12:14 am 12:14 am

When Scooby Doo got old and tired, the writers thought that they could spice the show up by bringing in an annoying little critter named Scrappy Doo.
Scrappy got little kids all hyper. Made them run around thinking they had “puppy power”. And that if they only talked enough trash, they could win any fight.
But for the more astute viewers of Scooby Doo… we knew that Scrappy Doo was clearly the point where the show “jumped the shark.”
I think in this case, the only difference between Palin and Scrappy Doo… is the lipstick. McCain has jumped the shark on this one.

Posted by: Blip | September 11, 2008, 12:16 am 12:16 am

I’m supporting Palin this November!
I never really liked Hillary with her condescending elitist attitude. Hillary isn’t fit to touch Palin’s shoes and after Palin wows them in Washington, Clinton can kiss her her chances to be President goodbye!
Palin ’08/’12/’16!

Posted by: Sue-Anne | September 11, 2008, 12:17 am 12:17 am

landlocked
Grasping at straws is desperation at its worst, so please stop. Maybe if Clinton would have not been a “peace-lover,” bin Laden might have been dead long before 9/11. Those multimillion dollars missles blowing up ten dollar tents doesn’t count.
Republicans have to clean up the messes that incompetent Democrats leave them. And then they get bashed when things don’t work out as planned.
You just can’t win with the left.

Posted by: no obama 08 | September 11, 2008, 12:17 am 12:17 am

As I understand it, McClain bought the WMD cover for going into Iraq. He was totally wrong. What I have read is that McCain said Iraq would be a cake walk because McCain said that the US would be welcomed as liberators. Totally wrong. Do these two “wrongs of the century” count against McCain or are we supposed to forget that as thoroughly as McCain has. How much wronger can a would be world-leader get?
The Pentagon is now saying the US Afganistan policy was wrong, thanks McCain/Bush, you were wrong again today.
Afganistan was actually where alQuada was located, not in Iraq (as they tried to confuse us during the Republican convention). Memorize this McCain, alQuada was in Afaganistan. Saddam hated alQuada because they were not under his thumb…remember bin Ladin? al Quada is in Iraq now because we are there to take shots at.
Something else to remember, before we invaded Iraq, most of Iraq was a “no-fly” zone, the US controlled most of Iraq’s air-space. I don’t think Iraq, which couldn’t even fly in most of its own air space, was that much of a threat, except for the WMD…remember this, John McCain, we invaded Iraq to get imaginary WMD, not alQuada.
“Lipstick on a pig” was a common saying in the Army back in the day. It was the expression of the idea that you can dress up something so that it looks better, but underneath the decorations, it’s still what it was. (Who doesn’t know that … Governor Palin or Senator McCain? If you are smarter than them good for you. ) Obama was saying McCain trys to dress up his ideas as substantial change, but its not really the degree of change that the people are expecting. Obama is saying that McCain is trying to create the appearance that the Republican candidates are not with Bush, when they really are with Bush. (In reality, McCain is only 90% with Bush.)
The differences between Bush and McCain seem small compared to the similarities. McCain says he voted with Bush over 90% of the time. Is 90% a lot? What about 10%? (Ninety percent barnyard animal?… ten percent lipstick? Ninety percent hogwash? ten percent change?)
I think we need to redirect our attention from animal images. Is Governor Palin a barracuda, or a pit bull (with lipstick)? Neither one, she is a candidate for Vice-president. This is really a serious election, folks! I am not kidding…we are voting for a world leader who may lead us to greatness or to destruction. A world leader who’s finger is on the trigger of a vast nuclear arsenal. How important are these animal images … how will you feel in a year when one or the other of these people is president? pit bull? barracuda? pig? elephant? donkey?
What about taxes? social security? education? retirement programs? regulation of financial securities? corruption? national security? global warming? supreme count appointments?
A commercial just came on the tv here that says Palin stopped “the bridge to nowhere”, but in reality she was all for it … until it was stopped by public opinion and pressure …now, if you watch the news at all, you know that McClain commercial is an outright lie. It’s not a mistake, it is a lie. Well folks, if McCain and Governor Palin run a commercial like that, a commercial we know is a flat lie … aren’t they really telling us that they believe they can control us and get our votes by lies? That offends me, but maybe I am the only person in the US offended. Maybe that kind of a lie only offends people from one political party, but not the other political party?
Something to consider…McCain comes from the great state of Arizona, which has so much federal land that its almost like it has built in earmark equivalents … I mean, a lot of federal money goes there to keep all the federal possessions going. So Arizona probably doesn’t need earmarks that bad anyway … not as bad as Alaska does…ask Governor Palin. “Governor Palin, since you are now against earmarks, can we have all Alaska’s earmarks back right now?” (Ask her that Charlie Gibson!) “OK, how about by the end of the month?” Make the check payable to US Taxpayers! Show us you really mean it Governor Palin, and no joke.

Posted by: WeNeedGoodPres | September 11, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am

no obama 08, you’ve revealed your true disposition>>>>YOU ARE A HATER OF PEACE!! Doesn’t your bible teach that “blessed are peacemakers?”

Posted by: CommonSense | September 11, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am

That was just to show you your proof of them not being one in the same. Maybe it isn’t important voting factors but it is differnces.

Posted by: obamawho08 | September 11, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am

I dig your comments, We Need Good Pres…
But in case you didn’t notice, lots of the McCainanites in here aren’t big on reading, facts, or common sense.
They know things by reading their gut.

Posted by: blip | September 11, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am

So glad I have left the DNC. A bunch of losers going on and on about War, poverty, taxes. Not that I don’t care about it but they drag on the same issues. In all my years as a DEM I see that you guys never have anything positive to say about anything. Clinton was one of your better leaders but besides him most of the DNC “talent” is ineffective and that includes Obama. Cater was a disaster.
I was watching MSNBC Larry King Live and saw the two Obama “strategists” one a Loud Mouth radio talk show host that had no manners, the other an unkempt looking woman who needed to comb her hair. The GOP women were professional and gave clear answers.
When I see speakers for Obama like Donna Brazille they seem angry and racist. Ariana Huffington sounds like an idiot. The Obama campaign is not reaching anyone. your talking points are dull and drawn out to death (bridge to nowhere blah blah) It is like kids are running that campaign. You look unprofessional in public and you are just not appealing to anyone and your going down in the polls.
With the Obama campaign everyone is a racist or attacking your chosen one. He can make all sorts of Annie Oakly or lipstick remarks and whine that he is the victim. Obama shut up, apologize, then take the time to say YOU know Sexism has no place in this election and I am sorry if my words sounded as if they … You get it. It would have shown humility and that you are a leader.
That’s all. Instead of being dismissive and saying “fake rage” which is insulting. I am sure that someone was offended. I was.I know others who were. So Obama just said they had phony rage.
He sounds pompous. He comes out of the Greek temples, makes his own presidential seal. When I see this guy and hear words come out of his mouth, I don’t believe them. He is there for himself as he proved today.

Posted by: Samantha | September 11, 2008, 12:23 am 12:23 am

CommonSense
Name caling will get you no where. How many attacks occured on Clintons watch. Nairobi, the USS Cole, WTC ’93, how many until you stand up and fight?
Maybe we should sit in a circle and sing Kum by yah until the enemy tires of attacking.

Posted by: no obama 08 | September 11, 2008, 12:24 am 12:24 am

I’m not sure if mcCain was outraged or not….but what Obama really doesn’t understand is that some women were really outraged…and as he continues his nasty digs and mean spirited conversation he needs to hope the people that he refuses to acknowledge don’t vote.
All the bogus “racial coding” and reverse racism branding of not just Bill and Hillary but small town America and various other groups did not go unnoticed….The media participated and spread these smear campaigns and they are doing it again with Palin..
The voters will decide!

Posted by: Jackie | September 11, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am

These GOP folks have their heads in the SAND.
OBAMA presented a great deal about EDUCATION today. McCain doesn’t even have a plan.
Do you think that the Titanic could have been saved by the Iceberg? Forget about McCain.
Nobody believes McCain’s pandering and distractions.

Posted by: JohnS | September 11, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am

WeNeedGoodPres>>>>Excellent! On that note, I’m going to bed. After reading these blogs, I am convinced that Obama will win this election. The republicans have offered nothing here…no substance…no thought… McCain/Failin has been EXPOSED!

Posted by: CommonSense | September 11, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am

Samantha writes, without a shred of irony, “In all my years as a DEM I see that you guys never have anything positive to say about anything.”
And then, if you read the litany of negative stuff she wrote beneath it… there’s more carp in it than an entire lake.

Posted by: blip | September 11, 2008, 12:27 am 12:27 am

Funny you say republicans are not much on reading. Aren’t most democrats (according to your stereotype not mine) Poor or middle class, which would mean you do not have the education that we do? Republicans are just rich ignorant people right? From my understanding of the world today the “rich” are more likely to have a degree from a good school. Of course this comment does not include liberal teachers who obviously don’t apply.

Posted by: obamawho08 | September 11, 2008, 12:28 am 12:28 am

I’m a little confused about traditional family values, which traditions and whose family are we considering? Is it the fourth generation Muslim family who find the 9/11 attacks reprehensible, or is it the vegetarian family who practice Jain and are so pro-life that they won’t kill a fish for food, or perhaps a gay couple who are in a committed, loving and respectful relationship with each other? Or is it just practicing Christians we are concerned with?
I will certainly agree that having strong ethical values is important, but for a country that embraces its melting pot history, this will be incredibly difficult to legislate inclusively. And I agree, the issues we need to focus on are economy, war, perhaps healthcare

Posted by: lex_soho | September 11, 2008, 12:29 am 12:29 am

McCain/Palin WILL win this election I have no doubt. I really haven’t seen much on the democratic standpoint that I consider credible information.

Posted by: obamawho08 | September 11, 2008, 12:31 am 12:31 am

obamawho08
Left wing books are notorious flops. While books by the right are often on the best seller list. Why is that?
Because the left prefers to get its news and information in quick, short bursts, like US Weekly and Rolling Stone. Their thought and emotional processes do not allow for much more.

Posted by: no obama 08 | September 11, 2008, 12:31 am 12:31 am

That was a really nice Letterman interview — OBama seemed pretty laid-back and comfortable with the setting, and Dave spent a nice long time asking him questions. And heh, Malia had her dad walk her into school and is embarrassed, but he doesn’t care. Sound like my mom’s take on preteen embarrassment.
Nice to see that while the media in general is freaking out, the candidate himself seems in the groove.

Posted by: Grace | September 11, 2008, 12:32 am 12:32 am

Well said, no obama08
I am glad Im not the only one in here fighting for whats right.

Posted by: obamawho08 | September 11, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am

Does Sarah Palin think she is above the American people?
14 days and she has not answered a single question.
Grill Palin NOW!

Posted by: GrillPalinNow | September 11, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am

Hillary and her healthcare bribe for votes are over!
Palin is the new queen of politics!
You want healthcare work harder!
Hillary will never be President!
McCain/Palin 08
Palin/J Bush 12
Palin/J Bush 16
Hillary isnt in Palins’ Class!!!

Posted by: GOP 08 | September 11, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am

Grace
Yea sure hes in the groove while the campaign is imploding! We get that hes a cool character but then again thats what most polticians do who try to be the Change people want when thats just a word!

Posted by: staniam | September 11, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am

commonsense
not if you saw the live Rally in alaska at 11:00pm eastern…you Obamasnots can be delusional all you want but we arent going to help you that would be , ah, like putting lipstick on.

Posted by: staniam | September 11, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am

McCain’s military record:
* crashed five military planes
* served 20 hours in combat
* spoke with enemies (McCain named PW Songbird)
* asked Vietnamese to seal his records

Posted by: mythbuster | September 11, 2008, 12:43 am 12:43 am

Stan, Alaska only has 3 electoral college votes and they traditionally go Republican anyway. So your little rally is pretty insignificant….

Posted by: lex_soho | September 11, 2008, 12:44 am 12:44 am

GrillPalinNow
I look forward to this also. Palin will make any unprepared reporter eat their words. Charles Gibson will not ask the hard questions because she will have the answer to them. Something the left-leaning media has not seen in a CHANGE candidate.

Posted by: no obama 08 | September 11, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am

lex_soho
I get goosebumps when I hear her speak. Only thing I need now is a nationally televised show on MSNBC.
What a joke the Democrats are quickly becoming. Not sad to say.

Posted by: no obama 08 | September 11, 2008, 12:50 am 12:50 am

Lex
Thats not the point… it was carried live nationally… and you think that you have your electoral college thing worked out when in fact the only reputable marker for the electoral count is on election day!

Posted by: staniam | September 11, 2008, 12:50 am 12:50 am

All the Democrats had to do was put Hillary as their candidate and the election would have been sealed. Instead they put up this guy and will not take over the executive branch after 8 years of Bush.
HA HA HA HA HA
How dumb can the leftist Ivy leaguers be? I think they have already answered that.

Posted by: no obama 08 | September 11, 2008, 12:55 am 12:55 am

How can someone take a woman serious who is upset over a perceived insult to a woman by Obama BUT can rally behind McCain who insulted his own wife? Spare me talking points and help me understand.

Posted by: WhereDoesItEnd | September 11, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am

Mediocre McCain and substandard
Sarah may be resonating with a
dumbed down segment of the
electorate all of it Republican.
She’s a below average politician
unfit for veep a fact that will
be borne out once people get to
know more about her.
Republicans may be trying to fool
the public with smoke and mirrors
for a while that they have a
candidate of some worth.
Soon she will have to stop hiding
and start standing on her own
and when she does that, that’ll
be the end of her 15 minutes of
limelight.

Posted by: anon | September 11, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am

McCain will keep us in Iraq for 100 years. We spend $10 billion/month in Irqa. We borrower money to fund war. How long can we pay off all the debt? For this reason, there is no way we should put McCain in the office.

Posted by: PHD | September 11, 2008, 12:57 am 12:57 am

If all it took was to add Hilary, then that says a lot in regards to people’s motivation in voting does it not? And motivations are fine – but you have to convince this voter that it is one other than color when the policies are effectively the same. And when the alternative is polar opposites…no sensible person would not ponder the dilemma.

Posted by: WhereDoesItEnd | September 11, 2008, 12:59 am 12:59 am

Where Does It End, it defies understanding.
The smartest thing the Republic party ever did was make Family values the center of their platform. It doesn’t matter if they are weak on issues or anything, they can just throw up “We have family values and hate baby killers” and a pretty good portion trot to the polls and vote against their better self interest

Posted by: lex_soho | September 11, 2008, 1:00 am 1:00 am

Wheredoesitend
I guess you are saying that Obama wasnt really serious in the first place and that he was acting on wishes of the leaders iongress who are a failure to take the Clintons out… thats not very wise!

Posted by: staniam | September 11, 2008, 1:02 am 1:02 am

I don’t know how can liberal DEM and dummy DEM leaders pick a candidate who speaks like a street fighter? I feel shame to be a Democrat.

Posted by: stock_craft | September 11, 2008, 1:03 am 1:03 am

lex
oh thats real good call the republicans what they call our party… its not effective

Posted by: staniam | September 11, 2008, 1:03 am 1:03 am

thats true I was against the bush administration because of the war but Obama made a speech before he was elected to the senate and now that the surge worked hes acting like its still 2006 when things were in doubt

Posted by: staniam | September 11, 2008, 1:06 am 1:06 am

The price for voting Democrat:
$2500-$5500.
Thanks for the facts Deb.
————————————
You forgot
Healthcare!
Jobs!
Better Education!
Collage tuition!
Better treatment of our troops!
Respect for the rule of Law!
Sounds good dont it ?
Much better than McCains $7600 for those who make $350 000+
Unless you make $3500 000+ guess you can always use the $7600 to buy a new golf cart!

Posted by: Deb | September 11, 2008, 1:09 am 1:09 am

stock_craft
absoultely the way he draws out hiw words like “pol-i-ceh” his advisors no doubt told him to sound more urban or something… I expect will smith or denzel to show up as Obama sometime!

Posted by: staniam | September 11, 2008, 1:09 am 1:09 am

I blame voters for the behavior of politicians to a great extent. They are only giving voters what they want. Quite an irony. Family values is a slogan when in fact it has no beef. There is this class system where a coke head is better than a crack head and deserves less punishment. There is this delusional and legal separation of fates for the man who robs the corner store for $100 and the man in the suit who steals your identity and ruins your credit. It’s amazing to me that we do not tear down these walls. People are constantly criticized for being lazy and not trying to make it on their own. But those who applaud these sentiments are the same folks who instinctively see one race as superior to the other and are in positions to grant opportunities for people to better themselves. They are in positions to HUMANELY increase minimum wages at the very least to the extent it keeps up with the growing economy. You can’t boast about growth and cry when your consumers can not afford to participate in the success. Minimum wage is not a handout. If it’s anything it is an indication of how humane we are. I’m tired of the pro life stance. If life begins at conception, then where is the condemnation of the tough on crime advocates when every other week another man on death row is found to be innocent. The SADDEST state of affairs in this country is the voter.

Posted by: WhereDoesItEnd | September 11, 2008, 1:12 am 1:12 am

Deb,
I think you need to wake up, you obviously don’t know what you are talking about.
————————————–
How so ? We owe them $3trillion thanks to Bush and McCain voted for it 100%!
Why else do you think we let them poison us and our kids with toys toothpaste food and medication ?

Posted by: Deb | September 11, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am

“I thing Sarah Palin will be a great president. Obama is not a leader, and that presidential seal of his and his temple pillars not making him a leader.”
It’s above his pay grade.

Posted by: Mack | September 11, 2008, 1:14 am 1:14 am

Vic
does that mean hes summoning his gangs in inner cities to rise up and him help him

Posted by: Staniam | September 11, 2008, 1:17 am 1:17 am

“does that mean hes summoning his gangs in inner cities to rise up and him help him”
He has street “cred”.

Posted by: Mack | September 11, 2008, 1:18 am 1:18 am

Wheredoesitend
you already have your answer Obama will lose the election

Posted by: Staniam | September 11, 2008, 1:18 am 1:18 am

Carol Fowler
Obama
Biden
They. Just. Don’t. Get. It.
It is clear what the new strategy is from the Ozero campaign:
ATTACK Sarah Palin!
Obama is the same old politics. No doubt about it.
Obama.
Is.
Desperate.
NO WAY!
NO HOW!
NOBAMA!
McCain-Palin ’08
Hillary ’12

Posted by: USVet | September 11, 2008, 1:18 am 1:18 am

Obama is smart; even the fleet-footed Letterman was in his dust here. Obama tried to clarify: He is saying that McCain’s policies are the “pig” and Palin is the “lipstick.” Now the issue is: how on earth can the U.S. public be expected to understand Obama. He’s speaking to something higher than the common denominator. McCain/Palin’s appeal to the voters is that they are understandable. People “get” them. A person can understand them even if said person has zero knowledge of politics or government. McCain/Palin are speaking not only in dumbed-down verses, but also to people’s gut-level fears of the unknown. It’s working to some degree. McCain was a decent politico before these shenanigans. Now he’s rolling in the mud with the worst of them. Another one bites the dust.

Posted by: teacher | September 11, 2008, 1:24 am 1:24 am

teacher
the general public should be able to understand any candidate when they talk to them…so if Obama talks in nuianced tones its because he doesnt want to be understood right at the moment hes speaking but soon after and that is evident again in his letterman interview because he explained the lipstick on a pig thing in a freudian way

Posted by: stanaim | September 11, 2008, 1:29 am 1:29 am

Troop withdrawal from Iraq has
begun. BO presented a timetable
for bringing troops home a couple
of months ago – a plan that was
accepted rightaway by the Iraqi
government. The original plan
has been modified in some details
and has the support of the UN.
Bush realized he was becoming
irrelevant and is now supporting
the withdrawal agreement with Iraq.
So because of BO’s non-stop
campaigning for a time-bound
departure of our combat troops
from Iraq the war is drawing to a
close.
Where’s McCain in all of this?
Why is this perennial loser
even running for POTUS?

Posted by: anon | September 11, 2008, 1:30 am 1:30 am

It’s absurd to even think of McCain leading this country on education, health care, or the economy. And picking Sarah Palin destroyed any shred of credibility he had on national security.
McCain already publicly stated he doesn’t know much about the economy, and besides that he doesn’t even know how to use the internet. What kind of a leader in ANY field doesn’t know how to use the internet?

Posted by: Danny | September 11, 2008, 1:30 am 1:30 am

America needs to know these facts about Palin.
• In a videotaped speech to students at her church this year she claimed that the war in Iraq is God’s will.
• In the same speech she also claimed that it is God’s will that Alaska build a $30 million gas and oil pipeline.
• As governor, she advocates teaching creationism in public school classrooms.
• A bipartisan committee is investigating Palin who fired public safety commissioner Walt Monegan because he would not dismiss a trooper, Mike Wooten, who went through a messy divorce with her sister before Palin’s election as governor. The evidence is poring out suggesting abuse of power.
• Also refuting overwhelming scientific evidence, Plain states that global warming is not due to human activity.
• She opposes abortion even in the case of rape or incest.
• As mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, she secured almost $27 million in earmarks for her hamlet of about 6,400, assisted by a lobbyist closely allied to now-tarnished Sen. Ted Stevens. Now she says that she is opposed to earmark funding.
• Palin, who has zero experience in foreign policy and only last year received her first U.S. passport , told Alaska Business Monthly that ‘I’ve been so focused on state government, I haven’t really focused much on the war in Iraq.”
• She is under investigation as to whether she abused her power as governor by dismissing the state’s public safety commissioner for refusing to fire her former brother-in-law from the state police.
• She opposes Sex Education in schools and has a 17 year old daughter who and is now pregnant and unwed.
Palin has close ties to the extreme fringe Alaska Independence Party, which has at times sought a vote on whether the state should secede.
• As mayor, she pressured her town librarian to ban books.
• Palin is a NRA member and opposes any bans on assault weapons
(Do you need an assault weapon to kill a moose?)
• Palin flip-flopped on her support for the “Bridge to Nowhere.”
• Bush speechwriter Matthew Scully wrote Palin’s speech… How is this Change?
Whats the Difference between Bush and Palin?…. Lipstick
Clearly she is prepared to continue the Bush legacy of hypocrisy, ignorance of science, cronyism, and promoting the agenda of the extreme religious right. Palin can count herself among the members of the “Flat Earth Society.”

Posted by: God particle | September 11, 2008, 1:33 am 1:33 am

When Obama says,:
“But, you know, when you’ve been taking all these earmarks when it’s convenient, and then suddenly you’re the champion anti-earmark person, that’s not change. Come on! I mean, words mean something, you can’t just make stuff up.”
Then it’s no longer ” words… just words”….. but only when it suits him!
And as for earmarks, of all the candidates, Obama has lined the largest pork barrel with “meat”. As Obama’s patron, Emil Jones, would say say, “one man’s pork is another man’s steak”!
Way to go, Obama!

Posted by: america*centric | September 11, 2008, 1:34 am 1:34 am

Those were people. Of course they were relevant if it’s true. Willy Horton was relevant and he wasn’t even a public official.

Posted by: WhereDoesItEnd | September 11, 2008, 1:35 am 1:35 am

GOP
we are critical of Obama but critical of Bush/Rove policies as well… I was at a rally in SC in 2000 after Mccain beat Bush in NH by 19 pts…I was talkign to an advance person for Mccain and said that I hoped he took it all th way to the convention… and the person said… no he will be a good republican… Newsflash he doesnt have to carry water for BUsh or any of those people any more its his campaign!

Posted by: stanaim | September 11, 2008, 1:37 am 1:37 am

Where Does It End
THe problem is Obama walked right into a Willie Horton type thing.. several things in the last couple of weeks so hes no bettet than Dukkakis.. at least his wife isnt as crazy as Kitty was lol

Posted by: Staniam | September 11, 2008, 1:40 am 1:40 am

Lincoln is turning in his grave.
His party, the Republican party, is helping elect vice president Palin who with Separatists!
-Palin’s husband wanted to break up the Union to let Alaska go! President Lincoln is rolling…
Besides
Can you imagine what would be said if Michelle had once been in a separatist party?
Fooey on the broken media system.

Posted by: husbusfun | September 11, 2008, 1:41 am 1:41 am

husbusfun
isnt that what some people have accused michelle of… beign liek a separatist or supporting extemists its the same thing…people that know anything abotu pltics and history its like somebody gave Obama a script for this time of the campaign season 8 weeks out from the election and hes folowing it pretty well

Posted by: staniam | September 11, 2008, 1:44 am 1:44 am

GOP 08, don’t insult Hillary and Bill Clinton if GOP want the votes from Hillary and Clinton supporters.

Posted by: stock_craft | September 11, 2008, 1:47 am 1:47 am

…that is evident again in his letterman interview because he explained the lipstick on a pig thing in a freudian way.”
posted by: stanaim | Sep 11, 2008 1:29:11 AM
_______________
I felt like Obama was was explaining the lipstick fisaco to Letterman in Pig Latin.
I STILL feel that way!
What did he say?
What did he MEAN?
I am as confused as David!
Obama should have prefaced his analogy with, “Let me make myself perfectly clear”!
Not that that would have clarified anything…..
He just verbalized himself into a well lit corner where every one can snicker at him
Serves him right for belittling Hillary before, and Palin now…. and Ferraro in between!

Posted by: america*centric | September 11, 2008, 1:49 am 1:49 am

Even Joe Biden says today that Hillary would have been the better choice. I bet Biden’s comment today got under Obama’s skin.
You know it did!
Proud to be a McCain Democrat in 2008!
The Obama wing of the Democratic Party is out of control and must be stopped!
Let’s all do our part!
NO VOTES AND NO MONEY FOR OBAMA!

Posted by: USVet | September 11, 2008, 1:54 am 1:54 am

Obama is a Phony! Why hasn’t he done any “change” in his community, church, local school district, Ill. state govt, or the National senate? Obama touts “change”, but he hasn’t done any change from the ground up! Obama hasn’t done, or said anything orginal to change anythig! Obama is a phony, words, just words.

Posted by: Voteing McCain In Ohio | September 11, 2008, 1:56 am 1:56 am

Veterans and the troops contribute 6 times as much money to the Obama campaign.
6 times.
Obama is winning the military vote.
Sorry McCain. Go home. You’re too feeble minded to be president..

Posted by: husbusfun | September 11, 2008, 1:57 am 1:57 am

“Too expensive to the taxpayers?
They’re private entities.”
___________________
Not any more!
Freddie and Fannie should/probably will be cleaved into one….. so that there won’t need to be two CEO’s and double staffs.
Much more economical!
Sounds sensible to me….
McCain and Palin
COUNTRY BEFORE BROKEN DOWN DNC!

Posted by: america*centric | September 11, 2008, 2:00 am 2:00 am

As we talk about Freddie and Fannie, one of the MacCain camp manager is lobby of Freddie and Fannie. It is so ironic!

Posted by: PHD | September 11, 2008, 2:06 am 2:06 am

Even if Obama had Hillary on the ticket I wouldn’t vote for them. Palin is so much better than Hillary and her Madison Avenue pantsuits. Hillary has nothing NOTHING on Palin. I will NEVER vote for that woman. EVER.
Palin ’08, ’12, ’16!

Posted by: Sue-Anne | September 11, 2008, 2:08 am 2:08 am

Break up all these monopolies.

Posted by: WhereDoesItEnd | September 11, 2008, 2:08 am 2:08 am

Obama, pleeeeeaaassssseeee STOP digging. Now you are saying Palin is the “lipstick”, as if you are giving her a compliment.
What happened to you “judgment” you so proudly boasting?
your performance tonight was painful to watch.

Posted by: John Galt | September 11, 2008, 2:13 am 2:13 am

Well, personally I hate her! Some of my friends were going to vote for her because they thought it might be their only chance to vote for a woman, but now they’re only talking about Sarah. She’s so much like us! No one brings up Hillary anymore and I resist reminding them how they almost sold their souls to the devil.

Posted by: Sue-Anne | September 11, 2008, 2:13 am 2:13 am

A judge warned the Palin family, including Sarah, to stop harassing Wooten during his custody battle with her sister. This was before Sarah became Governer.
After Sarah became Governor however, she continued harassing Wooten.
This woman is sick and totally incapable of having executive powers.

Posted by: Polderboy | September 11, 2008, 2:17 am 2:17 am

This country is deeply divided. This is not a very good thing.

Posted by: PHD | September 11, 2008, 2:40 am 2:40 am

Does everybody know that McCain biggest campaign issue: “Earmarks” is only an extremely small part of the Federal Budget?
0.63% to be exact.
Federal Budget 2008: $2,902.00 Billion
Earmarks 2008: 18.30 Billion
= 0.63% of Federal Budget!
Currently, the deficit is projected to be 407 Billion.
Another fact not known is that earmarks are applied AFTER a sum of money is budgetted. Getting rid of an earmark, will not lower the budget.

Posted by: Polderboy | September 11, 2008, 2:52 am 2:52 am

Independent voter…..firmly…supporting HOCKEY MOMS !!!! :) Governor Palin is a working class mother with proven reform credentials !!!!!! As quoted by Tony the Tiger in his breakfast broadcast…..” She’s……Grrrrrreeeat!!!!” Their you have it people the cereal industry has endorsed John McCain and Governor Palin. :) Honestly….I really believe that John McCain and Governor Palin are a good choice !

Posted by: jon | September 11, 2008, 3:00 am 3:00 am

The problem is that dumbing down
of America has been going on for
quite a while.
Look at how the Republicans are
manipulating their party members,
an incredibly uneducated lot.
They have a veep candidate they
announced two weeks ago and they
have gone to extraordinary lengths
to keep her away from the media.
This is unheard of. They have a
whole lot of dumbed down party
people believing that this woman is
some kind of savior of their party
and that they have already won the
election. The truth is the public
knows nothing about her although two
weeks have passed since she became
the Republican veep candidate.

Posted by: anon | September 11, 2008, 3:09 am 3:09 am

Jon: “proven reform credentials”
Name one.

Posted by: Polderboy | September 11, 2008, 3:13 am 3:13 am

Palin is against abortion even in cases of rape & incest.
She explored the idea of removing books from a public library (in effect ‘banning’).
She believes in giving creationism as much scientific clout in school as evolution.
She would be a heartbeat away from the presidency (and that president, if elected, would be the oldest person to serve his first term). Palin would be appointing Supreme Court justices. Her far right viewpoints are incredibly dangerous for this reason.
She believes the crazy climate we’re living in — along with the pollution, temperature changes, polar ice caps melting, greenhouse effect, etc. — are NOT in any way man-made. (She will likely be revising this to get in line with McCain, however.)
In addition, Palin & her people claim the trooper investigation was moved up for political purposes. If she’s innocent, wouldn’t she want the report’s conclusions coming out sooner rather than later?
Anyone who truly supported Hillary and what she stands for — on the ISSUES — couldn’t possibly vote for McCain.
While McCain was certainly brave during his captivity, his personal life since has hardly been stellar — whether it’s cheating repeatedly on his disabled first wife, being a member of the Keating 5 or failing to defend his supposed friend John Kerry against GOP attacks during the 2004 campaign that he KNEW were false.
Also, take a look at Palin’s actual record. Alaska gets more federal money per capita than any other state. She hired DC lobbyists to land the very pork barrel earmarks she slams today. She didn’t quash the “Bridge to Nowhere” until Congress did — AND Alaska kept the money.
I don’t care if people are Republicans or Democrats. I respect everyone’s right to vote their conscience. That’s what makes America great. Just make sure you know who and what you’re voting FOR.

Posted by: Katie F | September 11, 2008, 3:17 am 3:17 am

Palin is ten times the woman Clinton ever was!
Palin will be the first female Vice President and the First felmale President!
Hillary Clinton will be working at walmart!
Palin 08 12 16
Hillary Never!

Posted by: GOP 08 | September 11, 2008, 3:21 am 3:21 am

Jon, how come you are unable to Name One “proven reform credential”?
Because there is none?
The Alaska Republican Party still is corrupt. Even though she has been an active member of it since the mid 90s, she has not been able to clean it up.
McCain himself has been a part of the GOP even longer. He stood by when it descended into the party it is today. Corrupt to the core. McCain has not been able to keep even the GOP on the right track.

Posted by: Polderboy | September 11, 2008, 3:40 am 3:40 am

Lets go people.
Educate the people.
Republican tactics will backfire big time.
Vote Obama/Biden 2008!

Posted by: itoldyouso | September 11, 2008, 4:10 am 4:10 am

It is so funny when McCain said same lipstick on a pig so many times, no one even paid attention to them. But after Obama said it yesterday, almost immediately, all the repulicans jumped up and down, demanding an apology. Unbelievable!
Hypocrite and ridiculous!

Posted by: PHD | September 11, 2008, 4:13 am 4:13 am

Women hate Obama now… It’s definitely past your bedtime and how immature… You should be outraged about the state of our country and what the current Administration and political party have done but instead you post a ridiculous comment.

Posted by: Martin | September 11, 2008, 4:16 am 4:16 am

Posted by: Deb | Sep 11, 2008 3:24:17 AM
Deb,
if bho supports the constitution he would with draw from the race as he is ineligible to be president. See lawsuit filed 8/21/08 in philadelphia.
the dnc and bho were just served friday. they have till 10/21/08 to prove his citizenship…

Posted by: pp | September 11, 2008, 4:29 am 4:29 am

Palin is pro earmark. Palin not change. Palin and McCain policies are the same as Bush. It’s great IF and that is a big IF you want 4 more years of the same. But maybe allowing the country to fall deeper past recession plunging through a depression, may be what it takes to open your eyes.

Posted by: mere | September 11, 2008, 4:40 am 4:40 am

Posted by: mere | Sep 11, 2008 4:40:03 AM
curious, which bho are you voting for? the one that is for campaign reform, renegotiating nafta, against fisa, against off shore drilling, wants to be out of iraq in 18 months, etc…or the one, after hillary was suspended her campaign, decided not to change nafta, opted out of federal campaign funds, voted for fisa, thought some drilling was okay, or thought we should listen to the generals in terms of iraq.
which guy is it whose policies you support?

Posted by: pp | September 11, 2008, 5:07 am 5:07 am

jon,
Palins husband worked for BP until last year fact! Palin and her husband are magor shareholders in BP.
Palins given the same speech for 14 days!
So wont face the press becuase shes under investergation for coruption and is an empty suit!

Posted by: Deb | September 11, 2008, 5:11 am 5:11 am

Wouldn’t it be INSULTING to Palin if Obama has to tip-toe around her and cannot even use a common phrase because he has to make sure he doesn’t come across as offending/insulting her?
Wouldn’t that INSULT Palin because he would then be insinuating she’s a light weight ‘cos she’s a woman and cant take the pressure?
DOESN’T she want to be treated as an equal? ISN’T that the whole point of feminism? Us women being on EQUAL standing with men, and not seen as being weaker-minded, more sensitive and unable to take it in our stride?
For goodness’ sakes, stop crying sexism, McCain camp. If Obama had said a “pitbull in a lipstick” then that would be clear. But he didn’t. He wasn’t EVEN talking about Palin before he made that comment.
Besides, who started the mudslinging first, hmm? Why is it the McCain camp can open fire on Obama but when he has the gall to finally fire back they cry foul?
If anyone has a track record of being disrespectful to women, it’s McCain. Chelsea Clinton and even his wife were at the receiving ends of some very rude barbs.
If at a time where the economy is in shambles and we have to try to avoid a return to the Cold War, the McCain camp is insistent on talking only about lipstick, what does this tell you about where their priorities really lie?

Posted by: Fed Up | September 11, 2008, 5:16 am 5:16 am

Deb,
if bho supports the constitution he would with draw from the race as he is ineligible to be president. See lawsuit filed 8/21/08 in philadelphia.
the dnc and bho were just served friday. they have till 10/21/08 to prove his citizenship…

Posted by: pp | September 11, 2008, 5:17 am 5:17 am

Posted by: Fed Up | Sep 11, 2008 5:16:08 AM
like bho didn’t use racism to get where he is?

Posted by: pp | September 11, 2008, 5:20 am 5:20 am

GOP 08
So you plan to destroy Iran and Russia…
Cheney foreign policy is alive and well.
And look at our standing in the world.
Oh, you don’t care about that. Security comes from Ratheon and General Dymanics,
I forgot.

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 11, 2008, 5:20 am 5:20 am

if the dem congress had any back bone and voted their own policies, they would keep a gop executive branch in tact…
by the way, bho and biden voted for the bridge to nowhere…

Posted by: pp | September 11, 2008, 5:22 am 5:22 am

if the dem congress had any back bone and voted their own policies, they would keep a gop executive branch in tact…
—————
This gets the George Orwell trophy of the day.

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 11, 2008, 5:25 am 5:25 am

pp,
Mr. McCain’s likely nomination as the Republican candidate for president and the happenstance of his birth in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936 are reviving a musty debate that has surfaced periodically since the founders first set quill to parchment and declared that only a “natural-born citizen” can hold the nation’s highest office.
Almost since those words were written in 1787 with scant explanation, their precise meaning has been the stuff of confusion, law school review articles, whisper campaigns and civics class debates over whether only those delivered on American soil can be truly natural born. To date, no American to take the presidential oath has had an official birthplace outside the 50 states.

Posted by: Deb | September 11, 2008, 5:28 am 5:28 am

Posted by: 4real | Sep 11, 2008 5:21:58 AM
i am a hillary supporter. bho did get the nomination via cries of racism, as well as fraud and intimidation at the caucases. He won 12 of 13 caucases. see the video, we will not be silenced…it documents personal accounts of fraud and intimidation at the caucases…by the way, many of the people describing the behaviors were black.
i will never vote bho. it goes beyond policy(though he has flipped in just 2 months on half the issues)it goes to his total lack of experience and his horrible associates.
don’t you find it interesting that mccain and palin have non political people to talk about how great they are, but bho only has michelle?

Posted by: pp | September 11, 2008, 5:28 am 5:28 am

Jon: “Governor Palin cut Government waste in Alaska.”
No she didn’t, she increased it. During her six years as mayor, general government expenditures increased by more than 33 percent. The city’s debt went from nothing to $22 million.
In June 2007, Palin signed into law a $6.6 billion operating budget—the largest in Alaska’s history.
It was the Federal Congress in 2005 who cut earmarks for one bridge to nowhere, she’s still trying to find earmarks for the second bridge to nowhere.
Yesterday we learned that she had charged the state a per diem for the 312 nights she has *spent at home* ($16,951 in total allowances) and for her family’s travel expenses ($43,490, an additional $93,000 for Palin herself).
What a reformer.
“exposed certain corrupt politicians”
That’s whistleblowing. Whisteblowing has nothing to do with reforming.
” However, OUR DEMOCRATIC then Governor pleaded for the action”
Together with Stevens and Murkowski. Knowles is not running, in case you had missed that.
You have not mentioned ONE feat she has done.

Posted by: Polderboy | September 11, 2008, 5:40 am 5:40 am

Jon.
Palin is spending $25 million in taxpayers’ dollars for an access road to a bridge that is never going to be build.
That’s Waste.

Posted by: Polderboy | September 11, 2008, 5:54 am 5:54 am

Deb,
Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in those gaps. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are “citizens of the United States at birth:”
Anyone born inside the United States
Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person’s status as a citizen of the tribe
Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.

Posted by: pp | September 11, 2008, 5:59 am 5:59 am

pp
I have presented you with facts!
You fire back with rumours and smeers
Are you really John McCain ?
In case you missed it:
In the most detailed examination yet of Senator John McCain’s eligibility to be president, a law professor at the University of Arizona has concluded that neither Mr. McCain’s birth in 1936 in the Panama Canal Zone nor the fact that his parents were American citizens is enough to satisfy the constitutional requirement that the president must be a “natural-born citizen.”
State Department manual on U.S. citizenship has to say about children born on U.S. military installations:
Despite widespread popular belief, U.S. military installations abroad and U.S. diplomatic or consular facilities are not part of the United States within the meaning of the 14th Amendment. A child born on the premises of such a facility is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of birth.

Posted by: Deb | September 11, 2008, 6:01 am 6:01 am

“natural-born citizen.”

Posted by: Deb | September 11, 2008, 6:04 am 6:04 am

pp
Its the same reason Arnold Schwarzenegger can’t be President:
Section 1 of Article II of the Constitution contains the clause:
“ No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

Posted by: Deb | September 11, 2008, 6:09 am 6:09 am

Jon e.a.
Just this year, she sent to Sen. Ted. Stevens, R-Alaska, a proposal for 31 earmarks totaling $197 million — *more, per person, than any other state*.
[...]
Palin’s requests to Congress came at a time of huge federal deficits, while Alaska state revenue was *soaring* due to rising oil prices and a major tax increase on oil production that Palin signed into law in late 2007.
Let me spell it out for you: Alaska is making huge profits in revenues from it’s resources; from those revenues she’s doling out thousands of dollars in tax-rebates to Alaskans; and at the same time, she’s begging the rest of the US to pay for het petprojects like TWO bridges to Nowhere, and 29 other Pork projects.
That’s not a reformer. That’s more of the same.
And her ethical lapses in charging the state for bogus claims (per diem-gate), her lies about her personal record (Bridges-gate, Earmarks-gate, Ebay-gate), her abuses of power (firing people for personal reasons instead of professional), are proof that she fits perfectly well in the Old Boys Club of Bush and Cheney and the rest of the Republican Party.

Posted by: Polderboy | September 11, 2008, 6:09 am 6:09 am

sorry deb,
arnold’s parents were german, mccain’s both us citizens…read your constitution regarding citizenship, and eligibility for president in its entirity.

Posted by: pp | September 11, 2008, 6:13 am 6:13 am

pp: legal scholars are still undecided if McCain is a ‘natural born citizen’.
“In the most detailed examination yet of Senator John McCain’s eligibility to be president, a law professor at the University of Arizona has concluded that neither Mr. McCain’s birth in 1936 in the Panama Canal Zone nor the fact that his parents were American citizens is enough to satisfy the constitutional requirement that the president must be a “natural-born citizen.”

Posted by: Polderboy | September 11, 2008, 6:14 am 6:14 am

pp
The analysis, by Prof. Gabriel J. Chin, focused on a 1937 law that has been largely overlooked in the debate over Mr. McCain’s eligibility to be president. The law conferred citizenship on children of American parents born in the Canal Zone after 1904, and it made John McCain a citizen just before his first birthday. But the law came too late, Professor Chin argued, to make Mr. McCain a natural-born citizen.

Posted by: Deb | September 11, 2008, 6:15 am 6:15 am

pp
Its the same reason Arnold Schwarzenegger can’t be President:
In that he is not a ntural born citizen!
He can be a Senator and a Governor not the President!
Section 1 of Article II of the Constitution contains the clause:
“ No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

Posted by: Deb | September 11, 2008, 6:20 am 6:20 am

The story in the NYTimes is about The analysis done by Prof. Gabriel J. Chin of University of Arizona.

Posted by: Deb | September 11, 2008, 6:29 am 6:29 am

pp. Sorry but that makes absolutely no sense. The article itself states that 8 USC 1403 was SPECIFICALLY written because of the special status of the Canal Zone. So that article itself acknowledges that 8 USC 1401 did not include Canal Zone.
Yet they conclude that somehow McCain, who was born in the Canal Zone, should be eligible because of 8 USC 1401.
That’s a contradiction.

Posted by: Polderboy | September 11, 2008, 6:29 am 6:29 am

The fact he can give speeches not the same one every day for 14 days.
The fact he can give interviews and not hide for fifteen days!
The fact he gets whats wrong and is trying to change it!

Posted by: Deb | September 11, 2008, 6:39 am 6:39 am

pp: just a stark reminder of another time when ‘political winds shifted in an ugly direction’. Here is a poem attributed to Pastor Martin Niemöller following the Nazi rise to power.
When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn’t a Jew.
When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.
Martin Niemöller has always been a controversial figure. This poem however is spot on.

Posted by: Polderboy | September 11, 2008, 6:45 am 6:45 am

Polderboy
Thanks for that it so some up now !
You should email that to all the media I hope Tapper reads it!
The media in this country is so weak its a joke!

Posted by: Deb | September 11, 2008, 6:50 am 6:50 am

why should i read, believe, chin. look at the constitution!!!!mccain is eligible under 1401, so 1403 does not apply.
bho is not a citizen, if he is show a birth certificate, it is that easy.
You bho supporters are freaking out as mccain/palin numbers move up.
once this election goes full speed and the ayers, wright, auchi, rezko, non-biography biography, present votes, “whitey”, racist, unamerican issues about bho come up, he is toast…
bye bye bho.
“just get over it”

Posted by: pp | September 11, 2008, 6:51 am 6:51 am

pp
yep… he knew exactly what he was doing being snarky as usual and we are tired of that… because of those antics we dont have the best qualified candidate anymore

Posted by: staniam | September 11, 2008, 6:56 am 6:56 am

Posted by: Polderboy | Sep 11, 2008 6:45:58 AM
your point…..
perhaps bho’s uncle who liberated auschwitz knew that too….

Posted by: pp | September 11, 2008, 6:56 am 6:56 am

McCain’s birth on August 29, 1936, in what was then the Panama Canal Zone was announced in the English language Panamanian American. The McCain campaign has declined to publicly release his birth certificate. WashingtonPost!
McCain needs to release his birth certificate.
I didnt know till now he hadn’t thank you!

Posted by: Deb | September 11, 2008, 6:57 am 6:57 am

JA,
the current President is George W Bush, so indeed I can imagine the President having a conversation as stupid, indeed more stupid, than this. (I don’t mean to suggest Bush is stupid, but he is very very goofy).
And on the natural born citizen stuff, I am not a constitutional lawyer, but my laymans reading of the constitution would suggest that McCain is a natural born citizen. (2 American Parents, one serving as a high ranking member of the Navy, if thats not natural born I don’t know what is!)

Posted by: markymark | September 11, 2008, 7:00 am 7:00 am

clinton and bho sponsored a bill that said mccain was a citizen.
what will mccain’s bc tell us? we know he was born in panama? they do not stamp “citizen” on the certificate. one of the issues with bho is that we DO NOT KNOW where he was born.

Posted by: pp | September 11, 2008, 7:01 am 7:01 am

pp
They sponsored a non-legaly binding resolution!
Its disscused in the articles I asked you to read!

Posted by: Deb | September 11, 2008, 7:09 am 7:09 am

pp
We have seen Barack’s birth certificate and the hospital log of his birth!
We havent seen McCain birth certificate!
Why not ???

Posted by: Deb | September 11, 2008, 7:13 am 7:13 am

Posted by: Deb | Sep 11, 2008 7:13:31 AM
NO ONE HAS SEEN HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE, only his certificate of live birth. if you have seen it, please tell the world where.

Posted by: pp | September 11, 2008, 7:19 am 7:19 am

what exactly is it you want from mccains bc? everyone acknowledges that he was born in panama.
bho voted over 130 times in the ILLINOIS SENATE as present.
Rezko and bho bought houses next to each other from the same seller. rezko paid full market price, bho paid 100,00′s of thousands less….pretty hard to explain.

Posted by: pp | September 11, 2008, 7:22 am 7:22 am

It is incredible that this is the guy that the lefties put out for our Presidency.
Especially considering the wailing about Bush and his ineptness and ill-preparedness and all that crap.
When I hear Barry talk, I hear a college undergrad.

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz | September 11, 2008, 7:23 am 7:23 am

again, deb, you are way off base…google his bc….all you will see a picture of is the CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH. there is no picture of a birth certificate anywhere. if you believe the post, i challenge you to find the copy with BIRTH CERTIFICATE written on it.
you won’t.
just get over it

Posted by: pp | September 11, 2008, 7:27 am 7:27 am

pp
The certificate has all the elements the State Department requires for proving citizenship to obtain a U.S. passport: “your full name, the full name of your parent(s), date and place of birth, sex, date the birth record was filed, and the seal or other certification of the official custodian of such records.” The names, date and place of birth, and filing date are all evident on the scanned version, and you can see the seal above.
The document is a “certification of birth,” also known as a short-form birth certificate. The long form is drawn up by the hospital and includes additional information such as birth weight and parents’ hometowns. The short form is printed by the state and draws from a database with fewer details. The Hawaii Department of Health’s birth record request form does not give the option to request a photocopy of your long-form birth certificate, but their short form has enough information to be acceptable to the State Department. We tried to ask the Hawaii DOH why they only offer the short form, among other questions, but they have not given a response.
The scan released by the campaign shows halos around the black text, making it look (to some) as though the text might have been pasted on top of an image of security paper. But the document itself has no such halos, nor do the close-up photos we took of it. We conclude that the halo seen in the image produced by the campaign is a digital artifact from the scanning process.
We asked the Obama campaign about the date stamp and the blacked-out certificate number. The certificate is stamped June 2007, because that’s when Hawaii officials produced it for the campaign, which requested that document and “all the records we could get our hands on” according to spokesperson Shauna Daly. The campaign didn’t release its copy until 2008, after speculation began to appear on the Internet questioning Obama’s citizenship. The campaign then rushed to release the document, and the rush is responsible for the blacked-out certificate number. Says Shauna: “[We] couldn’t get someone on the phone in Hawaii to tell us whether the number represented some secret information, and we erred on the side of blacking it out. Since then we’ve found out it’s pretty irrelevant for the outside world.” The document we looked at did have a certificate number; it is 151 1961 – 010641.

Posted by: Deb | September 11, 2008, 7:35 am 7:35 am

pp,
Please show me john mccains ?

Posted by: Deb | September 11, 2008, 7:38 am 7:38 am

a certificate of live birth DOES NOT prove where the birth was, ie, citizenship. you can obtain a certificate of live birth if you are born overseas and simply go to get the certificate when you return.

Posted by: pp | September 11, 2008, 7:44 am 7:44 am

Obama honey… if you want me to vote for you you need to watch those metaphors. No excuses Obama. You goofed. Bottom line. Tsk tsk tsk. Bad boy!

Posted by: terrie | September 11, 2008, 8:23 am 8:23 am

pp
Why wont mccain release his birth certificate ?
Whats he got to hide?
Why must it be keep secret ?

Posted by: Deb | September 11, 2008, 8:23 am 8:23 am

Sadly, the American people will again play the “stupid” card and vote on the soundbite rather than on the issues that supposedly matter to them. We’ll have at least 4 more years like the last 8 and will have no one to blame but stupid Americans who can’t make informed choices and, instead, make a choice based on soundbites because they are too lazy to actually pay attention longer than 30 seconds.

Posted by: Mom of Two | September 11, 2008, 8:38 am 8:38 am

And once again Obama is backpedaling on what he meant to say, how he would have said it differently, having to attempt to make himself clear.
I can’t wait to see this amateur on the world stage going up against nations that either want to see America knocked down a peg or that out and out hate us.

Posted by: marylou | September 11, 2008, 8:40 am 8:40 am

united we stand divided we fall!!!! i am a supporter of obama. that said we must stop fighting over abortion and gay marriage and it has to stop being about the rich getting super rich and we must pool together all our talents and resourses and move this nation forward together. if this nation doesnt stop fighting about religion and gays, and abortion and and stop all the mud slinging from both sides we will fall…read about the history of the roman empire they spread out there military imported three times what they made and most government policies made sure the rich were taken care of first…and they as a nation fell.. sound familiar.

Posted by: tom | September 11, 2008, 8:42 am 8:42 am

Mom of Two,
I blame the media when will they do their job the didnt tell us the truth about Iraq the havent told us the truth since 911.
News isnt about giving both side the chance to talk its about pointing out BS and telling people when someone is lying and calling things like mccains new sexist defence ploy out for what it is a excuse to not talk about the real issues!
When they do their job people might have to think about the real issues!
Peace : (

Posted by: Deb | September 11, 2008, 8:43 am 8:43 am

The latest round of “distract, divide and distort” from McSame/Rove is so offer-the-top that it’s backfired on them. Even Bill O’Reilly came to Obama’s defense on the “pig” nonsense. Fact Checker has asked McSame/Rove to stop distoring their findings in anti-Obama ads. Think about it…this bunch is so twisted that they deliberately distort Fact Checker facts.
Can there be any doubt that with McSame/Rover, we’re in for four more years of the same old b.s.?

Posted by: Brooklyn Democrat | September 11, 2008, 8:58 am 8:58 am

Playing the victim is meant to win former clinton supporters!
Like they are really going to vote away Hillary’s chance at being the first felmale VP or President just because she’s a woman! Then again maybe they will ???

Posted by: Deb | September 11, 2008, 9:18 am 9:18 am

no answers no changes
same team same tactics
8 years after we were duped by these same focuses of an election…
…got us here
what will 12 or 16 do?
Vote samrt
go read both their policy proposal their plans and their promises.
McCain’s I promise will be quick because it is everything that got us here.
answers and changes to what we have been doing that make sense…
only one choice is in front of you that does that….
don’t be lazy go read the plans…and proposals.
(as the joint chiefs says yesterday that our focus in iraq may cost us the war in Afghanistan…where the terrorists who attacked us actually are)

Posted by: dl | September 11, 2008, 9:25 am 9:25 am

I can’t believe it. BO just keeps digging himself deeper. Someone please take away the shovel. Calling a female VP candidate “lipstick” is offensive. How would he feel if someone took an African American stereotypical item or characteristic, and said that BO is just that item/characteristic? People would be furious. Racism is not tolerated, but sexism is. Unbelievable.

Posted by: USA-NC-08 | September 11, 2008, 9:31 am 9:31 am

So here we have the brightest politician in ages according to the Democrats possessing a uniquely keen intellect and superior judgement. Are we to believe that he and his incredibly large brain never imagined that the use of the “lipstick on a pig” cliche just 6 days after 37 million people watched Palin use “lipstick” as punchline, that he was in no way referring to her? Puh-leeze! Either he’s not the genious we’ve been led to believe because this will cause irreparable political damage with swing voters, or he’s just plain lying, was trying to hit back at McCain/Palin and greatly miscalculated his sophomoric use of the phrase.
If Barack Fitzgerald Obama can’t effectively defend his own purile use of hackneyed phraseology, how can he get Putin to stand down? Man, he looks weak and whiney. Now he’s relying on his TV buds to lob softballs at him and he’s got his Hollywood cronies (Matt Damon) smearing Palin by quoting from barking moonbat spam emails.
Keep talking this one up! Please, give this story some leg, people!

Posted by: Woody | September 11, 2008, 9:53 am 9:53 am

How anyone can trust this man with the safety of our country is beyond me.
When I see the touching ceremonies about 9/11 I think of that jackass Rev Wright cursing America and blaming the attacks on us.
And I think of BO willingly staying with him for 20 years. And how Obama sees no problem withing having his own teerorist pal William Ayers.
One-third of American believe Obama shares Wright’s views. Why is this race even close?

Posted by: cindy in nc | September 11, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am

A lib throwing more softballs at Obama.
Lets see Obama will continue the failed policies of our do nothing congress that went on vacation because the libs thought they deserved it, while gas prices skyrocket and people lose their jobs because of the gas prices. A Democrat Congress who wants to see the country go into a depression because they think it helps them politically. and all you drones that support them buy into their lies.
The dems are out there now saying they want to drill all knowing it aint going to happen because Pelosi will not vote on it or if they do they will put so much red tape and beauracy on it that it will be impossible to drill!
Keep Voting for libs so their elitist attitudes can destroy this country!
The democrats are using the Black and other minorities, because you ever notice how racist or sexist they are to people who do not agree with them politically.
Obama Instead of doing what McCain did for Obama and congratulate Palin for this big step Obama threw sexist comments out!!
Obama is deep in to the mud.

Posted by: spock | September 11, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am

This has been my take all along–Obama sees republican policies and their embodiment in John McCain as a tired old pig. He sees Palin as nothing more than an effort to put lipstick on that pig–an insubstantial, frivilous diversion. He really knows how to reach out to women, doesn’t he? Reminds me of the “throwing china” and “claws” remarks about Hillary. He just doesn’t get it. I think we all know who the pig is now.

Posted by: NJH | September 11, 2008, 10:08 am 10:08 am

Republican candidates will tell any LIE as long as they think some fool out there will belive them and in turn keep spreading the same LIE over and over Obama has not wavered off the path of telling the truth and the McCain camp lost it’s compass and don’t have a clue where that path IS.

Posted by: Faxbot88240 | September 11, 2008, 10:10 am 10:10 am

Deb,
Please stop titling at windmills with McCain’s citizen status. Congress settled this in 1790. If both parents are US citizens then any of their children are NATURAL BORN CITIZENS of the US regardless of where the birth takes place:
“And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond sea, or outside the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens.” (See ref. for the Act of 1795)

Posted by: Woody | September 11, 2008, 10:15 am 10:15 am

Obama I’m sure is one of those like the beauiful mind he will serve for all the people. I hope he regulates all agency
and the pigs.

Posted by: Gloria | September 11, 2008, 10:29 am 10:29 am

Obama stands for that beautful mind and McCain stands for all legally blind

Posted by: Gloria | September 11, 2008, 10:32 am 10:32 am

I am a lifelong Democrat who is voting McCain this fall- my 1st vote ever for a Republican.
I am delighted that Obama seems to be furiously digiing himself in deeper and deeper with each passing day. To now refer to the Rep VP nominee as “lipstick” is outright stupid.
Even the IntraTrade markets now have McCain leading Obama !

Posted by: American Voter | September 11, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am

Fed Up…Wouldn’t it be INSULTING to Palin if Obama has to tip-toe around her and cannot even use a common phrase because he has to make sure he doesn’t come across as offending/insulting her?
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Are you kidding me? Obama has had this entire nation tip-toeing around because new rules have been instituted by him and the DNC about what words are and are not acceptable. Remember the flap about he “boy” comment? People have been calling males “boy” FOREVER and suddenly Obama decides it is offensive. Give me a break!

Posted by: Voting for McCain because of Palin | September 11, 2008, 10:51 am 10:51 am

If Obama is not elected, it will prove to the rest of the world that America is a racist country. Sad.

Posted by: BRISTOL | September 11, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am

The only thing that’s insulting is that McCain and Palin are tied in the polls..the only thing that’s insulting is that so many Americans are dumb and willing to continue the failed policies of the last 8 years. We still haven’t won in afghanistan, and these fools got us into another war prematurely and without proper planning. They have proven their incompetence and yet half of you still want more!

Posted by: Paul | September 11, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am

You people are focusing on all the wrong details. Stop listening to the media, read their proposals, and then make you’re choice in November. Don’t allow you’re self to be swayed by propaganda, exaggerations, and distortions. Come on now, aren’t we all smarter than this? I think that anyone that voted for Bush last election should be forced to sit this one out, based on mental deficiencies.

Posted by: surroundedbyidiots | September 11, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am

“He really knows how to reach out to women, doesn’t he? Reminds me of the “throwing china” and “claws” remarks about Hillary. He just doesn’t get it. I think we all know who the pig is now.”

Posted by: Belle Starr | September 11, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am

yes, unfortunately i do think the american public is THAT STUPID. LOOK AT THE ABC VOTE OF THE DAY. the majority of people actually admitted they vote primarily on WHO THE PERSON IS AND NOT THE ISSUES. and that tells you why this race is so close since Palin was discovered and groomed. i guarantee you she does not have to decide if she buys diapers or gas today, provide school supplies and clothes for her children, make drastic cuts on groceries, watch her children suffer because she can’t take them to the doctors, give up her pets because she can’t afford them, PACK UP AND LEAVE HER HOME BECAUSE IT’S BEING TAKEN AWAY. why can’t people realize she and mccain just don’t get it? Because “SHE’S HOT”. GET READY TO STRUGGLE THROUGH 4 MORE YEARS OF NOT THE SAME, BUT WORSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i do not have faith in the american public.

Posted by: rae m gonzalez | September 11, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am

rae m gonzalez I couldn’t agree with you more. It’s really sad that most Americans seem to enjoy suffering and that’s the bottom line. It will give them something to complain about. Truth is, I believe most people love to be miserable because if they didn’t they would use their brains! The writing couldn’t be more clear but they fall into the same old stupidity. My thing is, if the stupid Americans get McCain/Palin in then their kids should be the ones drafted to all of the wars McCain has planned to keep the population down! Every single Republican’s child should go to war since that is what their stupid parents voted for. The swing voters need to just stay at home because they are bipolar! What stable person swings back and forth due to the amount of negativity in the news this week! I jsut believe people enjoy suffering and will make up every excuse to justify it! While McCain can just pick which house he is going to today and they will be trying to figure out how they are going to feed their kids and heat their homes! Sad but true!

Posted by: Past | September 11, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm

@ Jack
You don’t get it: I’m suggesting that people send Obama lipsticks. I am NOT a supporter of The CHANGEling.
However, on your “welfare state” remarks: the weasel Obama supports the Clinton “welfare reform”, and makes no mention in his campaign of the poor. Obama has backed off on rescinding the Bush tax cuts.
Maintaining a “welfare state” for the elites, which ignoring the poor, is a stupid way of doing things.
McCain claims he’ll “drain the swamp” in DC — which would certainly involve bettering the lot of the poor. Palin, meanwhile, has redistributed corporate wealth DOWNward, to the people of her state.
If you’re a right-winger, maybe you should be supporting the mob-friendly Obama/Biden ticket — whose idea of “change” seems to be that THEY ascend to the top of business as usual in DC.
As for “color”, if Obama weren’t playing on his birthday suit, he’d have been out of the primary races about the time Biden was.

Posted by: Belle Starr | September 11, 2008, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm

SAVE THE PIGS!
VOTE REPUBLICAN!

Posted by: Brian Norwood | September 11, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm

Obama was brilliant on Letterman. What a contrast to “Caribou Barbie”! Obama handles difficult interviews with grace and charisma that neither Grandpa McCain or Caribou Barbie will ever be able to touch. While Sarah “Caribou Barbie” Palin did a nice job of delivery in a completely staged setting in her acceptance speech, let’s see how she does when she’s in the hot lights without handlers getting needled and probed and mocked by the media and late night comics. As a woman who coaches female and male executives, I know this – you’ve gotta be able to take the punch when it comes and deal with it maturely. Sarah is being so protected on all fronts, it’s ridiculous. Come on, women, if we really want to be taken seriously, we seriously need to deal with the tough personal challenges instead of whining about them.

Posted by: Carol | September 11, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm

How ironic that Obama chastises McCain for criticizing Obama’s comments – Obama says “enough,” yet every chance Obama gets, he mentions the comment (and McCain’s reaction) again and again in speeches and in nationally broadcast television interviews – Obama is the one refusing to let this issue die. If it weren’t Obama doing this, we’d refer his actions as hypocritical or a double standard.

Posted by: My Two Cents | September 11, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm

Pigs everywhere are now protesting the GOP for the comparison to Sara Palin. This is going to cost the Republicans a lot of pork.

Posted by: devilkev | September 11, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm

ya know, the Republicans are the ones that are comparing Palin to a pig with lipstick, not Obama. She should be outraged…

Posted by: DaveM | September 11, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm

Suppose we could only READ about a candidate’s positions. We’re not able to see or hear the candidates speak. No pictures either.
You would be forced to consider only the ISSUES. NOT what the candidates look or sound like. Would the race STILL be this close?
Would Palin still be the best choice for women? Would McCain still be the best choice for the economy?

Posted by: anonymous | September 11, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm

Obama was arrogant, defiant, unapologetic and disrespectful on the David Letterman show. He was most definitely referring to Palin / McCain with the lipstick / fish comment and he sure enjoyed the applause over this very distasteful, repulsive joke. He is obviously jealous of the Republican’s rise in the polls and desperate! He has a real issue with powerful women. He mistreated Hillary Clinton as well. Obama is full of empty words and has little experience. He is not ready to lead this country but he is obviously ready to smear. He will keep this country divided. Palin and McCain both have proven records of bipartisanship and will unite America.

Posted by: Ashleigh | September 11, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm

“This guy is the most scripted politician around..this was planned.”

Posted by: Belle Starr | September 11, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm

Anyone trying to make more of this than the simple analogy that it is….is wasting everyones time. And that alone is suspect. Why try and distract from the important….unless you are a coward like Carl Rove….and John Mcshame.

Posted by: Ghot | September 11, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

ALL those who are criticising Obama for the ‘lipstick’ phrase- OBVIOUSLY are as CLOSE Minded as all the other repubs out there!
If you cant SEE and PERCEIVE the actual reference to the PIG and LIPSTICK and Obama’s humorous analogy on Letterman- YOU DONT GET ‘CHANGE’ – YOU DONT GET IT !!!- this kind of ignorance is going to cost this country its DREAM!!

Posted by: tk | September 11, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm

As a observer from a far off land (Canada)I can say that the fact that you people voted for GWB (twice) was kinda pathetic – I mean really that boy wasn’t bright. Now I am relived to say you will be voting for a candidate who was powerless to take on the coruption of the Illinos political system, voted “present” for most of the time there, attended a racist church or 20+ years, bought his first house with the help of Tony Rezko, was friends with William Ayres, his mentor was Rev. Wright, most questions are above his pay grade, makes TV interviewers feel tingles up their legs, took 3 interviews to get the Russia/Georgia conflict correct, he will very well sit down with supporters of 9/11 to find some middle ground, supporters (1 million on his speed dial)are college students (same ones who welcomed leader of Iran to come hear and spit in your face)- Obama is apparently the only likeable lawyer in the WORLD….and anyone who votes for him is vote to go from the frying pan into the fire.
Good luck America

Posted by: joshua | September 11, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm

A few disclosures first: I am an undeclared independent, I am white, I do have a thinking brain (apparently it now puts me in the disadvantaged category)
Ok, here we go. From what I am seeing in the press, the majority of Americans have absolutely lost their minds! The past two presidential elections were decided on the basis of one side saying the other side is scum to which the other side responded by saying oh yeah but you are bigger scum. Look what we got out of that. Instead of each one of us asking whether we are satisfied with how things are going, we are hell bent on doing the same thing AGAIN…win, win, win BASH THE HECK OUT THE OTHER SIDE, makes me feel good, and it sure has worked before. Insanity pure and simple. The meaning of lipstick on a pig is really going to keep me from losing my house, make oil prices lower, stop me from losing my job, etc., etc. Insanity really. Because I am disadvantaged by having a thinking brain someone is sure to come on here and bash me for using it. It is the thing to do. If you have gotten this far reading, I can just see you waiting to see which side I take to decide whether to jump up with your club and bash or not. As I said before, I am an independent. So far both sides are causing me to puke. And guess what? The damn terrorists were right, we have been and will continue to destroy OURSELVES. They are laughing at us…they are thinking stupid Americans, they have A-bombs, jets, tanks, missiles etc. etc. going for them but stupidity is overpowering everything they are doing and they don’t even realize it. But so what…BASH, BASH, BASH as long as the right side WINS, WINS, WINS…it is all that matters. Hardly anyone really cares what happens AFTER the election. The last two such elections proves it. Americans put an idiot in the White House who then proceeded to start wrecking it…and he was then re-elected so he could finish the project! Insanity pure and simple. Now a moment of choice is coming upon the country which could well determine its very survival and lipstick on a pig is the basis upon which it could be decided. This country could actually CHOOSE to continue the same policies that have been destroying it for eight years! My dear God, take me now, take me now…my working brain affliction is becoming just too much to bear.

Posted by: Pete J | September 11, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm

Obama is the one keeping this story in the media – McCain issued a statement days ago and that was the last they spoke of it – Obama keeps bringing it up in a highly profiled way (on Letterman, in speeches, etc.) to distract voters from the key issue in this election are we ready to a) give up on our current system and usher in a bold new socialist agenda … or do we b) reform our current system and take steps to ensure that the government does not get any bigger or more powerful. That’s the one issue that everyone should focus on right now.

Posted by: Me Again | September 11, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm

Since Sarah took offense to the lipstick on a pig analogy that is just a common one it must have hit home. They used the same comment when speaking to Hilary and I guess she didn’t get her feelings hurt or cry. Come on what is she going to do if world leaders criticize her…waa waa all the way home.

Posted by: seenitallx9 | September 11, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

I’m sorry Pete J but I just had the best laugh out loud moment I’ve had in a while.
You’ve put my feelings to words so well!

Posted by: Citizen Voter | September 11, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm

Sarah is the one who brought up the lipstick in the first place. Being from the sticks I guess they don’t use analogies there. It had nothing to do with pigs or lipstick it’s she’s another GW as is McCain no matter how you slice it.

Posted by: seenitallx9 | September 11, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm

Obama has nothing to do with keeping this in the media. You do by asking for more on it. McCain didn’t vet her and now the media is doing the job it would have done had she had any national experience or been known. Any candidate that runs for office needs to be scrutinized…the world will do it for us if we don’t. How do we look to the rest of the world?
This Republican has seen the error of her ways and is voting for Obama.

Posted by: seenitallx9 | September 11, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm

As an American women with a voting card I have never been so insulted as by the McCain/Palin campaign tactics pointed at women.
He congratulates himself for selecting a woman and then treats her in the most demeaning fashion. She has to be hidden from the public? She’s an unknown and deserves to be vetted in detail since her job means she could end up as president. The remark about limiting access to only those who show her proper deference?
He reminds me of the nightly news where we see a gunman grab and woman and/or child to deflect the police from shooting them down. He’s grabbed Palin and we are being told repeatedly about her children, about her decision to give birth to a Down’s Syndrome child. But God forbid we get discussions on how Palin might handle people with diverse religious and political beliefs.
We have some intractable problems that must be tackled. If she isn’t good enough to stand on her own two feet like his behavior seems to be saying then why should anybody consider this other then a cynical political ploy!

Posted by: Not over fast enough | September 11, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm

How hypocric OB!! He started lipstic from Palin’s speech. And blaimed on McCain and he is the man obove such a chat. He brought up lipstic story again and again, he changed face and said “enough is enough, I don’t care what they said”. It was so disgusting. Bill O, you said he wasn’t talking about Palin becouse he is so smart and intellegent?????? Don’t be fooled by BO. You think you are fare, but you were navi. OB is not like you, Bill. He tried this lipstic live on and on, so he can pretend with well managed face expression, saying McCain don’t talke about issue, only wining. But he didn’t talked about any issue at all, just blame Rep. I thought anyway it is over. And yet, look! what he is saying to David about again – Lipstic Palin on pig McCain? He doesn’t want to die this story. OB, you have to stop this kind of cheap shot!! Be realistic for citizen. PLEASE… If you don’t have nothing to talk, just be silence.

Posted by: wingc | September 11, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm

Gee for some reason this must’ve been accidentally removed.
So Obama’s got his army of shiny shoed lawyers in Alaska digging up anything they can find on Pistol Packin’ No-Abortion Palin. Considering she nixed the good ‘ol boy network, she’s earned some enemies, who were also enemies of the American people and Alaskans, the corruptoids…I’m sure they’ll feel right at home with those types.
Obama has a new book: “Plausible Deniability, Media Manipulation, Preemptive Diversion and Loaded Nuance for Cowards and Losers”
How do you think it will sell?
Just kidding of course. Sort of.
This whole PIG thing was a simple diversionary tactic to distract from Obama’s having BLAMED THE USA FOR 9-11.
Oh, yes he did. Read the Canadian article, it’s no secret, he’s just one step shy of Wright. It’s better to own the media position in a sexist manner than to be tied to his terrorist mentors. OBama has been on the TEAT OF TERRORISTS FOR DECADES. He’s been funded and cultivated by the likes of Odinga, Ayers, al Mansour and Farrakhan. Obama out and out LIED about his relationship with Ayers, yet the media is focused on the Harper Valley PTA – mayor- governor up north.
Zero vetting of Obama in Chicago and REzko and Ayers and Odinga and Wright, but troop-haulers full of zitfaced Obamacons descend on Wasilla.
They always warned you they’d take down America from WITHIN the government.
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Posted by: Alaskan Tundra Digger | September 11, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm

Ohg Rea Tone Did you see how meaningfully McCain cradled the roses a relative of a 9-11 victim gave him, whereas Obama’s let his dangle drooped from his hand ready to hand them off to an aid. Did you know OBama totally lied to you and abc and the world about his relationship with Bill Ayers? Totally lied, completely lied, he’s hiding the real terrorist-affiliated Obama and ABC is so in the tank for him the don’t vet him…they WANT a terrorist in the White House. Obama’s latest read was The Post American World, he’s been photog’ed with it several times. I’d like McCain with a grumpy temperament in a wheelchair any day compared to terrorist Obama. Did you see the way Obama told off that poor old lady who asked him what he’d do about terrorists? He never did answer her, just belittled her.

Posted by: Alaskan Tundra Digger | September 11, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm

I am a republican leaning to Democrat this time. I am so disgusted how Mccain and Palin conduct their campaign. I would like to hear their solutions to our present problems.What people get are senseless back and forth accusations. Enough is enough. I agree with Obama.

Posted by: X | September 11, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm

So OBama gets to distract from his blaming American victims for being victimized by another double entendre “don’t be so sensitive” crapload.
Remember back in January, the New York Times reported:
As Obama and his wife, Michelle, strolled triumphantly into his victory party in Des Moines, Iowa, on Jan. 3, Jay-Z’s “99 Problems” was blaring.
Oh, Oooooops, just a coincidence again. Axelrod and Obama are SICK individuals.
Now they’re calling on the Clintons for help. Hillary tried to tell us, she was afterall wearing PRISONER orange at her DNC speech. Obama played “Addicted To Love” as Bill Clinton exited the stage. They all do this, and it’s called PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY it gets attention and it distracts from more disastrous emphasis.
Like Obama’s associations with terrorists and all the data pointing to his being cultivated and funded by them for DECADES.
When O’Reilly pointed these associations out all Obama could say is “what can you say?”

Posted by: Alaskan Tundra Digger | September 11, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm

Hey, Tundra Digger, that story about the Jay-Z track was debunked within 48 hours of your talking points distributor making it up from whole cloth.

Posted by: Blue Raven | September 11, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm

The lipstick on a pig is an expression. There’s a book by the same title. Obama didn’t call Palin a pig, he called McCain’s policy the pig. McCain used the same expression about Hillary Clinton’s healthcare plan.And it’s on tape. Do some research, watch some news. Palin needs to be scrutinized. No one knows anything about her. Don’t think for one minute that the republican machine hasn’t been digging into Obama and Biden. They all do it. We know all there is to know about them. Now it’s her turn. This trying to insult the American voter with these stupid comebacks and Comercials that are flat out lies is disgusting.It makes me think she has something more to hide besides her ultra conservitive views. I for one want to know something about her. What does she stand for? What does she believe? What are her politics. She’s made the same speech, which was written for her, at every stop before returning to Alaska. Bring on the scrutiny.

Posted by: Bea | September 11, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm

Palin has a record of proven bipartisanship? Where? What? She wants to keep our children stupid and ill informed about their own bodies.She sees nothing wrong with marrying her 17yr old daughter off to her gum chewing boyfriend. Not to mention she thinks God started our war and is on our side.God dosen’t start wars. People start wars.She thinks her religion and her beliefs are the only way. I wonder what the leaders of foreign countries will think about that. Can you say Isreal?

Posted by: Miki | September 11, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm

Hey Citizen Voter, at Sep 11, 2009 3:14:04 PM, you are so right! Pete J at the mark Sep 11,2008 2:45:36 PM hit the nail right on the head…I really bust a gut on that one. I am still trying to pull myself together I laughed so hard. Everyone should read it and refer the next person coming on here to read it. I promise they will be thoroughly entertained whether Republican or Democrat…Excuse me, I have to go see my doctor to check if I broke a rib laughing so hard.

Posted by: Paul P | September 11, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm

Ashleigh wrote:
>Obama was arrogant, defiant, >unapologetic and disrespectful on the >David Letterman show.
And Palin was arrogant, defiant, demeaning, and disrespectful during her acceptance speech. The Republican delgates hooted, hollered, and laughed.
Please tell me why the Republican delegates were able laugh at her speech and the Obama crowd can’t laugh at his? There’s a double standard going on here.
>He was most definitely referring to >Palin / McCain with the lipstick / >fish comment and he sure enjoyed the >applause over this very distasteful, >repulsive joke.
The comments were aimed at McCain policies, not at the candidates personally. Please read the transcript. On the other hand, the attacks on Obama during her acceptance speech WERE personal.
>He has a real issue with powerful >women.
If he has such an issue with powerful women then why is he married to Michelle, a fellow Harvard graduate and accomplished professional woman in her own right?
>He mistreated Hillary Clinton as well.
Hillary was mainly mistreated by her own campaign advisers, not Obama. They are the ones who did not know what to do when the race wasn’t wrapped up on Super Tuesday.
>Obama is full of empty words and has >little experience.
Sounds exactly like Palin to me. Very little experience on the world scene and after one speech full of vague generalities lots of people seem willing to follow her anywhere.
>He is not ready to lead this country
Nor is she. I wouldn’t be so worried if McCain wasn’t 72 years old. He should be ashamed of himself for putting forward a relative unknown just two months before the election. We will not have a chance to get to know her and make an informed decision in November. Totally disrespectful to the voters.
>but he is obviously ready to smear. He >will keep this country divided.
Most of McCain’s ads have been proven to be either deliberately misleading or blatantly false. McCain HIRED the man who produced a smear ad against him in a previous election. So what does that say about him?

Posted by: Charlotte | September 11, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm

Dwight are you serious? So we should elect officials based on their need to heal???Crazy Man say what?????

Posted by: Elle_Woods | September 11, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm

Gee must be Michelle alway put her own make up on.
This bozo knew exactly what he was saying and who’s goat he was going after in making this comment. Only the fools fooling themselves could possibly think otherwise.
This was nothing more than a forced comment to gain attention. The office is just the winning point of a very rediculous game for both parties.
Get over it and state at least one idea that has merit and detail……..

Posted by: freethought4u | September 11, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm

Obama to Letterman: Sarah Palin is “a brilliant politician.” Thanks, Obama. I will vote for brilliance over neverending Democratic smarminess any day.

Posted by: kambiz | September 11, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm

kambiz – Why wouldn’t he say that she’s a brilliant politician? Anything else would’ve been considered sexist.

Posted by: Anita | September 11, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm

I just watched the Palin/Gibson interview.
I hope everyone watches it.
I don’t believe that comments will change someones opinions but I hope people see what I saw in Palin.
I did not see someone speaking from the heart. I saw someone saying what people will want to hear. She is a brilliant politician.

Posted by: John | September 11, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm

Did anyone notice that Michelle Obama was present to show her respect for the 9/11 event. All the Cindy, Laura,others were there but her. She should have attended.

Posted by: rick22reed | September 11, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm

I don’t get it — is that the only difference between a dog and a hockey mom? Lipstick?
Hey, did you see talk of Biden pulling a surprise by stepping down and Hillary taking his place. The Republicans would never know what hit him! Pit Bull Palin getting all ready to debate Biden. Then at the last minute, Hillary shows up. Hoooo! Would the Republicans scream bloody murder. Boy, would that be a massacre! The Palin-McBush party would be over!

Posted by: Leonardo | September 11, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm

Look here!
Sarah Palin insult the American spirit of service to the nation by ridiculing Obama service to the community. Who is this young person who will contribute towards community if Palin is vice president? Useless job of course. No, I meant Sarah doesn’t get it.
Sarah Palin insult democracy by saying she is not going to Washington to seek good opinion of people and commentators. Talk of a fake leader!
Sarah Palin talks of how she is going to get things done. And when I look over her shoulders, I see the same Bush cronies following her. Will she get rid of them when she get to White House? Of course not. She owe them a lot for helping her get where she is. And did I hear she was quoted saying she doesn’t know the work of the vice president? Oh I hope Americans don’t get into trap of Steve and Karl Rove.
And different between Cheney and Palin? lipstick.

Posted by: Gideon | September 12, 2008, 4:06 am 4:06 am

It is so sad that the American people can not see the truth. Obama will destroy this country, he will take away all your freedoms to make this nation weak so that his terrorist buddies can march right in and take over! Obama hates the USA why can’t people see that?
Is the American people that undereducated that they can be lead so blindly to vote for a leader that hates the USA?
McCain is not G. Bush he has different views and will keep America strong! Ron Paul will Also be a good choice for America!
But Obama will destroy us!
Don’t let this country die with Obama, Please America see the truth!

Posted by: Joe | September 12, 2008, 8:09 am 8:09 am

All I wanted to say here and “right now” — not discordantly I hope (yes, hope) — is that Sarah Palin’s first name makes her the namesake of Obama’s Kenyan grandmother, whose first name is Sarah too. But you knew that already!
Would Sarah invite Sarah to Alaska, after Obama’s inauguration January 20th next? That would be a truly wonderful global connect. In doing so, Sarah would have the opportunity to ask Sarah what her middle name is, or how it came about that there is such a meme at Kogelo.
There is a history there worth hearing: of journeys from Alego and sojourns in the Kendu Bay area and all the way back to Alego.
And Sarah would, graciously, accept an invitation to Kogelo. And it would be doubly wonderful.
But Sarah wouldn’t stay more than a day or two in Alaska, far from it; and far as that place is from anywhere (except the Siberian permafrost)!
There is no permalink there!
Nor will she in Washington, D.C., glorious as what will have brought her to that world capital may be (she’s made that abundantly clear to all who understand Kiswahili and Dholuo).
See, she doesn’t care much for winter! Don’t ask me if she has ever felt its full freeze — its relentless squeeze upon the ear, outdoors — as I have. And a bunch of “unaccomplished” thieves, knowing she is away, might try again (as they did this week) to break into her iconic home at Kogelo.
She has a home there, you see, not a house. The difference was settled long ago.
In D.C., however, she will not wonder why a whole nation, with all that wealth, will want her grandson to put up in a house, and not a home, even if it be the House. She knows the difference in these things, and she loves the thought.

Posted by: Mauri Yambo | September 12, 2008, 8:15 am 8:15 am

Never voted for a Democrat before. Palin is qualified to be a prom queen, nothing more. We cannot stand any more of this devisive garbage. Where did ny party go? I guess Obama will have to get us out of the ditch. My beloved Rubublican party has gone intellectually bamkrupt.

Posted by: Jason | September 12, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm

After reading yards of partisan vitriol it struck me that that is the reason why Congress has even a lower ratings than the President! Partisan cheap shots and Congress playing to the crowd mentality. It is the ISSUES that count not caterwalling and personal attack. When are we going to be grown ups and insist that Government behaves maturely. There is surprisingly, something to be said of mass hysteria.

Posted by: Victory | September 13, 2008, 9:43 am 9:43 am

I wish Tom Russett were alive. He would get to the bottom of McCains lies and distortions. He would also flush out the truth about Sarah Palin. There is a big differance in the qalifications for govener of a state which has a very small population and is filthy rich from $120.00 a barral oil and the qualification for vice president. Sarah the phony just does not cut the mustard.

Posted by: Patrick | September 13, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm

Sep 11, 2008 6:04:22 AM
Remarks posted by Deb Sep 11, 2008 6:04:22 AM
“In the most detailed examination yet of Senator John McCain’s eligibility to be president, a law professor at the University of Arizona has concluded that neither Mr. McCain’s birth in 1936 in the Panama Canal Zone nor the fact that his parents were American citizens is enough to satisfy the constitutional requirement that the president must be a “natural-born citizen.”
State Department manual on U.S. citizenship has to say about children born on U.S. military installations:
Despite widespread popular belief, U.S. military installations abroad and U.S. diplomatic or consular facilities are not part of the United States within the meaning of the 14th Amendment. A child born on the premises of such a facility is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of birth”
“Comment”
You are laughable!!! Any child born to a service member, no matter where they are, so long as they are on active duty is in fact a “natural born citizen”. I think you need to take your head out of your liberal books. The United States Constitution does not define the term “natural born citizen”; however, it does confer on Congress the power: “To establish a uniform Rule of Naturalization.” If Congress, the president, or any true American had a problem with it, I am pretty sure that they would have taken up the issue by now.
The funny thing here is that you are questioning whether McCain is a Natural born Citizen when both his parents are Citizens. His father served in the Army for the United States of America, and was deployed to the Panama Canal, at the request of CONGRESS, the President at the time, and the American people. LOL!!!! Yet, the one you should really be questioning is Obama citizenship. Obama’s mother married a non-citizen, at least that is what we are being told, and his father was born in Africa, his mother traveled outside of America for several years, as did her children. Obamba spent several years in Africa as a child with his biological father. I know that if I were to leave America for 6 months or more that I would be at risk for losing my citizenship. So where does this leave Obama????? Do you care? “I can answer that for you” NO!

Posted by: Maria | September 14, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm

i think our celebrity president loved by the media

Posted by: kip | September 22, 2009, 12:26 am 12:26 am

Although I generally like David Letterman’s wit and humor, his choice of guests quite often discust me. Obama is on his socialist agenda big time and all us lemmings are allowing him to manipulate at will.
Quite frankly, I feel Letterman and his political views show me that he’s as hypnotized and removed from reality as are the idiots that voted for Obama in the election. How are all you Obama voters feeling now? Are you starting to feel the sting of your uneducated decisions????? Choke on it.

Posted by: Scott Wulff | September 22, 2009, 11:33 am 11:33 am

come on people stop the bs grow the hell
up,palin is a dipstick and the world
knows it obama may not have experience
what president have had experience
none at least PRESIDENT OBAMA IS SMART

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