Sep 8, 2008 7:30pm

Obama on the Need for Habeas Corpus: Distinguishing Between ‘Barack, the Bomb-Thrower’ and ‘Barack, the Guy Running for President’

FARMINGTON HILLS, Mich. — A fired-up Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., took on his opponents — "these people," he said incredulously, in a familiar refrain — for shamelessness and dishonesty.

"I have said repeatedly that there should be no contradiction between keeping America safe and secure and respecting our Constitution," Obama said. "During the Republican convention, you remember during the Republican convention, one of them, I don’t know if it was Rudy or Palin … they said, ‘Well, ya know, Sen. Obama is less interested in protecting you from terrorists than … reading them their rights.’"

(It was Palin, who said "Al Qaeda terrorists still plot to inflict catastrophic harm on America — he’s worried that someone won’t read them their rights?")

"Now, let me say this," Obama continued, "first of all, you don’t even get to read them their rights until you catch them. So, I don’t know what, they should spend more time trying to catch Osama bin Laden and we can worry about the next steps later. Hah!  I mean, seriously! These folks.

"Catch ‘em first!"

Obama said his position on this "has always been clear.  It has always been clear. If you’ve got a terrorist, take ‘em out. Take ‘em out. Anybody who was involved in 9/11 –- take ‘em out."

But, the former constitutional law professor argued, "What I have also said is this: that when you suspend habeas corpus — which has been a principle, dating before even our country, it’s the foundation of Anglo-American law — which says, very simply, if the government grabs you, then you have the right to at least ask, ‘Why was I grabbed?’ and say, ‘Maybe you’ve got the wrong person.’

"The reason you have that safeguard," he said, "is because we don’t always have the right person. We don’t always catch the right person. We may think this is Mohammed the terrorist, it might be Mohammed the cab driver. You may think it’s Barack the bomb thrower, but it might be Barack the guy running for president.

"The reason that you have this principle is not to be soft on terrorism, it’s because that’s who we are," Obama said as the crowd rose to its feet, applauding. "That’s what we’re protecting. Don’t mock the Constitution! Don’t make fun of it! Don’t suggest that it’s un-American to abide by what the founding fathers set up! It’s worked pretty well for over 200 years!

"These people!" Obama said.

Obama also mocked the new TV ad put out by the McCain campaign claiming that Gov. Sarah Palin "stopped the Bridge to Nowhere."

"I gotta admit these folks are shameless," Obama said, "because the record is indisputable," he said, describing how Palin had originally supported the project.

"I wouldn’t do that," Obama said. "I mean, I’m not perfect –"

"Yes, you are!" shouted a woman in the crowd.

"No, no, no, no," Obama said. "Talk to Michelle, she’ll tell you. But what I’m not going to do, I’m not going to describe in an ad that I did something that is opposite of what I did."

– Jake Tapper and Sunlen Miller

User Comments

What a whiner. I want some hope. I’ve found it in McCain-Palin.

Posted by: John | September 8, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm

Obama is gonna take the fight to the GOP all the way till election day.
He is going to make them own their lies, and their shameful rhetoric.
“Republicans, he suggested, “should spend their time trying to catch Osama bin Laden” instead of worry about what to do with him after he’s caught.”
Excellent.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 8, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm

“sends Michelle out to call Sarah stupid.”
And after Palin and Romney took shots at Michelle during the convention when she’s not running for office, good for her.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 8, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm

Barack Obama is the only President this country needs in the next 8 years.
He’s formidable.

Posted by: keeley | September 8, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm

I’m surprised a man who is friends with an unrepentant terrorist would joke about being a bomb thrower.

Posted by: padhorn | September 8, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm

“No, no, no, no,” Obama said. “Talk to Michelle she’ll tell you. But what I’m not going to do I’m not going to describe in an ad that I did something that is opposite of what I did.”
FISA?
Cheney Energy Bill?
Death Penalty?
Hello?

Posted by: drjohn | September 8, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm

He calling it the way it is. It’s up to the public to understand.

Posted by: Thinking | September 8, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm

If I were Obama, I would lay off the references to being a bomber. It just reminds people that he has been up close and personal with bomb throwers.

Posted by: Kitty | September 8, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm

Yep – he should be careful about using the term ‘bomb thrower’ since he’s got friends who have done that! Betcha that is the primary reason he is on the side of Habeas Corpus! With the friends that he has, he needs that safety net to protect them! Course, he could throw them under the bus instead!

Posted by: Beckie | September 8, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm

He is opn a roll. If the press will not pursue these false and misleading statements made by the Republicans then he must.

Posted by: Thinking | September 8, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm

Obillion in pork.

Posted by: Mjöllnir | September 8, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm

“He is opn a roll. If the press will not pursue these false and misleading statements made by the Republicans then he must.”
Yup. Make the press report that he called them out on their lies.
He is going to make them own their lies.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 8, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm

Please read my above post…
Obama is getting lamer and more desperate. It’s because of him that I vote again after 16 years…

Posted by: submix8c | September 8, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm

“Betcha that is the primary reason he is on the side of Habeas Corpus”
Beckie,
You don’t believe in Habeus Corpus?
Why do you hate America?

Posted by: Ryan C | September 8, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm

This is now one unserious candidate

Posted by: smith | September 8, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm

John, if you’ve found “hope” in McSame/(Im)Palin’, I’ve got a “Bridge to Nowhere” to sell you!!!
McSame and his “Soulmate” (wonder if Cindy is jealous?) will bring no hope unless you’re making $5 million a year or are a corporation for which one of their staffers/advisors work. The rest of those who vote for McSame will be sorry — for, with the Republican Ticket, there’s no hope without dopes!
Obama/Biden 08

Posted by: jackt51 | September 8, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm

Obama.
Ayers.
Obama.
Ayers.
Obama.
Ayers.
One and the same and best friends, too!
Class dismissed!

Posted by: USVet | September 8, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm

What video is this? Is there a link? What exactly did they say about the bridge – that she killed it or that she told congress no? (while both are lies, I still would like to know)

Posted by: Mike | September 8, 2008, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm

I know –”try them in abenstia– give them the death penalty and watch Europe love us”.

Posted by: cardinal | September 8, 2008, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm

Obama has a new ad out describing the McCain/Palin campaign mumbo-jumbo as just what it is — a bunch of bald-faced lies. I hope the media gets back to the facts that Obama clearly presents versus selling “spots” to the ex-beauty pageant gun-toting hocky mom who thinks we’re at war with Iran because God wants us to be.
Please don’t let these losers into the whitehouse again! Just say no to the M/P ticket of lies.
Vote for your future and your family’s future.
Obama 08!

Posted by: Plus | September 8, 2008, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm

The state has to show cause and reason for detainment. If you allow it to be dropped in one circumstance than it is a only a matter of justification of it being dropped in other circumstances. If the government can make their case, this is not a problem.

Posted by: Jason | September 8, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm

These remarks by Obama are telling because they come several days after the attacks were issued by Palin-Guiliani-McCain. The fact that it took a few days tells me something important. Obama is not quick to hit attacks with new attacks. He spends his time to think through his argument and respond. This is an admirable quality… and, one surprisingly that George W. Bush exhibited when we hit back on Afghanistan. We waited after 9/11 to survey what had happened and then hit the precise source of the problem. George Bush had the praise of the world for taking the right action after deliberation. Of course, things sort of veered of track after that moment… Now, I’m not suggesting how Obama handles political slander tells us anything about how he would handle a terrorist attack. But, it is a positive sign. I don’t want to make too much more of it than that.
While I don’t know much about Palin herself (and, I’m sure we’ll learn more as the McCain campaign allows her to communicate directly with the press and have exchanges with the public), I was somewhat disappointed in the amount of slander and attacks in her speeches. I know that these are not her words, and she’s probably being fed this material via Bush, now McCain, operatives. But, I sure hope that she doesn’t tarnish her personality before she even has a chance to tell us what that really is (in her own words).

Posted by: Truth17 | September 8, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm

Found the ad:
“She stopped the Bridge to Nowhere.”
Odd claim, since congress killed it more than 10 months before she became governor.

Posted by: Mike | September 8, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm

OBAMA IS UN-FIT FOR COMMANDER IN CHIEF.
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RELIGION,GUNS,COUNTRY FIRST ARE VERY
IMPORTANT TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE….
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McCAIN/PALIN ’08

Posted by: ROBERT | September 8, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm

John your hope is false —McCain has been on congress for years and where has it gotton us…Deeper in debt oilprices high heating oil out of sight food skyrocketing,,,,,,

Posted by: in | September 8, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm

John, you are full of crap…I think it’s ok, for him to take it to the GOP because after all, they all attacked him. Now out of a sudden, he’s a whiner, give me a break, here…Did you say anything about Mr 911..Guilliani, Palin, Reverend, Funny Man, I want to be President, Hucklebee..lol…I think it’s fair game!

Posted by: Duwee | September 8, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm

Obama getting owned on O’Reilly now!
HAHAHA!! Love it!!

Posted by: USVet | September 8, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm

McCain doesn’t care about you little people that support him here. His lobbyist and the rich cats are the ones that he will take care of when he is elected. He just needs you little ones of low you people of low information to get him to the White House.

Posted by: pearl | September 8, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm

I love of you that go straight to Ayers and forget about the 90,000-1.5 million documented civilian deaths in Iraq. A country we invaded with NO ties to 9/11 and NO weapons of Mass Destruction. Oh yea! and McCain wants to Bomb, bomb, bomb, Iran!

Posted by: NMP | September 8, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm

Do you Really Know Barack Obama?

Posted by: Samantha, A Black Woman From IL | September 8, 2008, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm

You know the supporters of Palin-McCain, oops, McCain-Palin are the same eggheads that thought “W” was the best hope for America. Can anyone tell me how that story ended?

Posted by: Pete | September 8, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm

“She took on big oil.”
I guess that refers to the one time she raised taxes on the oil company profits last year. Alaska projects they will get 11 billion in taxes, but somehow I doubt it. More than 2/3 of US corporations just dont pay any federal corporate tax, and I’m sure they’ll work around that as well. But the tax is a windfall profit tax (the rate goes up with each extra dollar in oil prices a certain amount over cost)
Didn’t mcCain criticize Obama’s call for a windfall oil profit tax?

Posted by: Mike | September 8, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm

“I’m surprised a man who is friends with an unrepentant terrorist would joke about being a bomb thrower.”
I take it you are talking about Ayers. First, he was never much of a terrorist and his group never killed anybody but one of their own, by accidence, secondly he is not Obama’s friend. Obama went to his house once, in 1995, when his predecessor in the Illinois State Senate announced her withdrawal from politics. Obama also served on a board with him. If that is friendship to you, I guess you’d call the McCain/Bush relationship sexual.

Posted by: El_Pajaro | September 8, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm

US Vet- I watched Biden on Meet The Press and Obama on This Week and McCain – Where was McCain’s VP? Still studying for her VP experience…

Posted by: NMP | September 8, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm

LMAO!!
Obama on O’Reilly tonight!
Obama doesn’t know jack!
Owned!!

Posted by: USVet | September 8, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm

El-Pajaro – Great Post! If I had to be accountable for all the people I have served on countless Boards with, I would be toast.

Posted by: NMP | September 8, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm

USVet:
guess anyone can call themselves a vet, even when they act the fool. Obama was never “friends” with Ayers, and their encounters have certainly been brief and primarily related to a foundation board on which they both served.
And Barack was like, seven years old during the hey-day of the Weather Underground. Not really an issue.
Now, Sarah Palin and her radical church? Her ties to Alaskan Separatists? Those are much more current and relevant!
Obama/Biden 08

Posted by: jackt51 | September 8, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm

Ryan C, Course I belive in Habeus Corpus! But ask yourself what your guy really believes! To quote the flip-flopper: “If you got a terrorist — take him out. Anybody who was involved in 9/11? Take him out.” Kindly tell me how are you gonna apply Habeus Corpus after you have taken him out? Is he gonna have a sign on him saying “I am a terrorist, I was involved in 9/11″? Or is he going to be taken out after we know he is one of those bad guys?
Then he suggested that Republicans should spend their time trying to CATCH Osama bin Laden, instead of worry about what to do with him after he’s caught! So aren’t we supposed to TAKE HIM OUT?! Your guy just confused me on the issue! But that is the One – can’t speak without his teleprompter!

Posted by: Beckie | September 8, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm

US Vet says Obama on O’Reilly tonight!
Obama doesn’t know jack!
__________________________________________
Actually, he does. Senator Jack Reed is an honored military man, Army Captain – his father was a WW2 hero. Surely, you must know them. They think a lot of Obama.

Posted by: Paige | September 8, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm

The McCain/Palin strategy seems to be to try to convince people that they are not Republicans. I wonder why they would do that?

Posted by: Mike | September 8, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm

I know there have been not too nice stories circulating about Palin, some maybe true, some maybe not.
But this one is true and could possibly be damaging.
Sarah Palin’s Churches and The Third Wave

Posted by: Lou | September 8, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm

NMP,
Sarah palin is connecting directly with the American people.
It was reported today that she will be doing an extensive interviews with ABC News this week. You should tune in to watch it. I’m sure America will.
I’m sure she will do great!
Meanwhile, Obama’s numbers keep dropping day by day by day by day.
No wonder Obama didn’t want anyone to watch him on O’Reilly this week. Obama showed that he doesn’t have a clue about economic policy tonight.
Keep going on the shows Obama. Keep going negative with your BS. The more you talk, the more votes you lose!
Mccain-Palin ’08
Hillary in 2012

Posted by: USVet | September 8, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm

‘Don’t mock the Constitution’ one of the best lines of this campaign.

Posted by: Maria | September 8, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm

Anyone heard about the rumor that Biden may be droppig out? Wonder why that is?
Jake, have you heard about this?

Posted by: USVet | September 8, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm

Defending Habeas Corpus and the American Constitution is THE patriotic act.
Republicans do not respect American law. That’s what drives Ron Paul crazy and makes Obama so lucid and his policies so urgent.

Posted by: General | September 8, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm

US VET – McCain energized his own base and votes he should have secured anyway. Palin’s propaganda is connecting to low information voters – she is not connecting to the “American people”. Those of us that have taken time to thoroughly research (what we can) her history and beliefs will NOT be voting Republican. I also believe that the more America learns of her extremist views – the polls will fall the other way.

Posted by: NMP | September 8, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm

Yes Politico is reporting on the Palin interview beginning to sound like a puff piece if you ask me..
Gibson is no reporter. He is a today show host, what is he doing on serious news program I have no idea. This is why McCain picked Gibson.

Posted by: Thinking | September 8, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm

Let’s take a bet to see how long it will take McCaint VP pick to flame out? lol
The Clinton Machine underestimated, ridiculed and belittled and this Harvard Law grad and University professor, and got beat.
Barack Obama IS NOT Al Gore or John Kerry!
Chicago politics isn’t for the faint at heart! lol
The marginally intelligent cCaint-Pollen are going to be shown up for the INCOMPETENTS that they are!

Posted by: Patriot | September 8, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm

Does Palin think we’re all stupid or something? This happened on the Republican’s watch, to the extent that the government can protect us from terrorists, its the Reupblicans fault.

Posted by: Mike | September 8, 2008, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm

Obama first suggest ‘take the out’. Presumably, that means shoot to kill regardless of anything. But, if you don’t take them out, read them their rights.
OK, if I’m a soldier, I think I now know what the choices are. Don’t ask, don’t tell. Shoot to kill.

Posted by: dl | September 8, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm

NMP,
It’s over for Obama. You just can’t see it yet. The extreme candidate in this race is Barack Obama.
The Obamabots think Obama walks on water and can do no wrong, can change all those red states blue and make the world his oyster, but that is not reality. It’s Obamalalaland.
America loves Sarah Palin! They do not trust Obama.
Obama is on the defense and is displaying nothing but negative attacks now.
Ayers
Rezko
FISA
ACORN
Voted for Bush-Cheney Energy Bill
Voted FOR funding of Bridge
Stabbed Hillary Clinton in the back
Stabbed Hillary Clinton in the back
Stabbed Hillary Clinton in the back
Did I mention Obama stabbed Hillary Clinton in the back?
UNFORGIVABLE!!
Obama.
Is.
Toast.
Just because the DNC elites nominated Obama, does not mean America has to elect him.
The DNC elites, the Obamabots, and the wacked mainstream media keep trying to shove Obama down our collective throat.
America doesn’t liek the taste of Obama. We are going to chew him up and spit him back to Chicago where he belongs!
NO WAY! NO HOW! NOBAMA!
Country First!
McCain-Palin ’08
Hillary in 2012

Posted by: USVet | September 8, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm

How’s that? Doesn’t congress make the laws? How can a Republican minority do what you suggest? Please explain!!!

Posted by: dl | September 8, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm

Paying Taxes is a patriotic act.
Lowering Taxes during a time of war is unpatriotic. Not providing the troops with the Armour they need is unpatriotic. Committing the troops to under supported, under funded, debacle is unpatriotic.
Hey but what they hay Republicans wear a flag pin sometimes.

Posted by: Thinking | September 8, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm

Were you in Dearborn, Michigan or Farmington Hills, Michigan? Obama can’t close the deal. We all knew that in the primaries against Hillary. There’s nothing new here. HE CAN’T CLOSE THE DEAL. He will NOT win the election in November. Thank you, Lord!

Posted by: Not Sure in Illinois | September 8, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm

Palin stopped the Bridge to Nowhere. Obama and Biden approved it before she killed it. What’s the big deal/

Posted by: Sigmonde | September 8, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm

US Vet McCain voted : NO 20 million for veteran facilities. NO…322 million for safety equipment for Iraqi troops. NO…1 million for new equipment for the National Guard.NO 430 million for veteran outpatient care. That’s how much McCain supports the troops.

Posted by: linda n carolina | September 8, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm

Thinking
A lot has been uncovered since your talking point first came into being. You should really keep up on things!

Posted by: dl | September 8, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm

Borrowing money from China to pay for an unnecessary war is not patriotic nor smart.
McSame/Bush .. say no to 4 more of the same!

Posted by: Gus | September 8, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm

How unpresidential will Obama get in his desperation? Dude’s, uhhhh, umm, err losing it. Just doesn’t get it.

Posted by: question those who question authority | September 8, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm

“We don’t always catch the right person. We may think this is Mohammed the terrorist, it might be Mohammed the cab driver.”
Racist remark?

Posted by: Batman | September 8, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm

Thinking
A lot has been uncovered since your talking point first came into being. You should really keep up on things!
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Like what the Tax cut was rescinded?
It was mistake the Armour was there?
There was enough troops from the beginning?
There was a well planed and executed plan?
It was fully funded from the beginning?
What has come out since?

Posted by: Thinking | September 8, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm

Congratulations to the Dem’s for caving in on offshore drilling. Barry’s poll numbers must be falling down the well. Please explain why you libs ignored the oil prices costing billions from the citizens. Why is drilling now good when it was evil just yesterday?

Posted by: killerbee | September 8, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm

Bush: “bin Laden? I don’t think about him really.”
Maybe the pitbull with her vast knowledge of moose hunting will find bin Laden!??
for more of the same, vote John McCain!!

Posted by: Gus | September 8, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm

Paige,
If you think Obama has the support of a majority of military families, you are really out of touch with our family. Obama does not respect our sacrifice at all! And his BS about signing up for Selective Service as some means to have military experience is a total slap in the face to the men and women that have and do wear the uniform.
Anyways, I never said anything about monetary donations. No doubt Obama gets a lot of money. That’s part of his problem. He’s money rich, and integrity poor.
And even with all his millions at hand for who knows where, he still can’t buy respect and integrity. He also received less votes than Hillary. Why? People know he is a phony.
The DNC elite nominated Obama. The voters did not.
And in the GE, it is winner take all for those big states. No more caucus BS games for Ozero to play.
America is on to Obama’s BS.
Obama’s words have brought a case of diminishing returns in support from the American people. We are seeing it in the polls. We’ll see it on election day.
Come on board!
McCain-Palin ’08
Hillary in 2012

Posted by: USVet | September 8, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm

Wow..I was just thinking about how Obama was batting 1000 for daily stupid comments and here he goes and makes a SECOND idiotic statement in the same day. I highly suggest that unless the dems want a 48 state landslide (write off the tragedy that is CA and NY) then you might want to hide Obama for the next 8 weeks just to try and keep it respectable.

Posted by: Ed | September 8, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm

Obama is completely out of control. Is this what we can expect how he will react under pressure?

Posted by: Peggy | September 8, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm

Ok, so we should trust a man who is so far left that he sounds like a socialist? I am no fond of McCain, but at least he has a backbone. All we see of Obama, is all nice talk (thanks to…the left news media). The few times he got asked tough questions, he couldn’t answer. All his rhetoric is spend $150 billion….yes I said BILLION to find an alternative fuel. There has been research going on for over 20 years (see ethonal), but he wants to spend this huge amount…One question..WHERE IS THIS MONEY COMING FROM? Easy answer..you and me!!! With todays economy this is just irresponsible talk. Today they are blasting Palins’ religion. But we can’t talk about the 20 years Obama spent listening to a man who says ‘God damn America’? He says he never heard this type of talk? Thats’ very scary. If he did not hear it, was he picking his nose…talking on his cell phone? What? In any case, do you want someone who is not listening? We already have Bush? Do we need a Democratic Bush with extreme leftist leanings? Come on America….THINK, before you vote. Don’t let the media do your thinking for you.

Posted by: Robin | September 8, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm

Talk about shameless. What business does he have attacking Palin on a Bridge she did indeed kill but both he and Biden supported? How can he attack her on earmarks when he has taken home almost three quarters of a BILLION dollars in pork?
He’s starting to step in it big time. When you’re forced into attacking the other tickets No.2, you’ve got problems…

Posted by: changer1701 | September 8, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm

Obama is a socialist, he will do anything say anything to become President
He was raised by socialists, its in his fiber, look at his history, nothing in it says he would be anything but a tax spend socialists liberal, he will destroy the American Entrprenuer and the american spirt,

Posted by: sickoflibsbs | September 8, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm

Obama is completely out of control. Is this what we can expect how he will react under pressure?
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How is that?

Posted by: Thinking | September 8, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm

To mjollnir….you need to step back and look at who has been running this country for almost eight years!bankruptcy,..foreclosures…default on loans…jobs being sent to China or India…the war in iraq costing a billion dollars a month….and now the $200 billion dollar bail out of “Fannie and Freddie Mae? You wanna talk about pork? Ask Sarah Palin to return the money for the “Bridge to no where” that she kept.She said “Thanks but no thanks” but still kept the money. Pork..just look at the repub’s.

Posted by: orangecat | September 8, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm

I can’t wait to see Palin interviewed by the tough-as-nails Charlie Gibson, who will no doubt ask her “do you believe a woman should be forced to bear her rapists child?”

Posted by: Mike | September 8, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm

Obama is such an idiot. The constitution
is for Americans not terrorists. Terrorists have no rights and and should not be treated like they are Americans and have Constitutional rights.

Posted by: JM | September 8, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm

State polls mean everything. BO and McSame tied in VA. BO up in Michigan. So with that we need either VA or CO & NM (where we are up by 5pts). Either way, winning VA will only be icing on the cake. the mavericks are toast!!

Posted by: Don | September 8, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm

This Little Piggy cried Waah, waah waah all the way home

Posted by: IXLR8 | September 8, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm

If McCain used and I quote from Obama “these poeple” to describe Obama, the whole racial divide and concure, racial profiling, and race baiting people from the left would be comming out of the woodwork to condemn him to race hell. But I guess thats how the whole libral double standard works. Notice it when a conservitive says it, ignore it when it is a black libral that says it.
(Excerpt below from the above article)
“The reason that you have this principle is not to be soft on terrorism, it’s because that’s who we are,” Obama said as the crowd rose to its feet, applauding. “That’s what we’re protecting. Don’t mock the constitution! Don’t make fun of it! Don’t suggest that it’s un-American to abide by what the founding fathers set up! It’s worked pretty well for over 200 years!
“These people!” Obama said.

Posted by: Mark | September 8, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm

Obama has it wrong – instead of ‘dont mock the constitution’,
he needs to say
‘HOW DARE YOU mock the constitution of the country that I love!”

Posted by: Flash Override | September 8, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm

How can he attack her on earmarks when he has taken home almost three quarters of a BILLION dollars in pork?
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Because he didn’t claim that he didn’t take it while she did.
IL received $25 for every IL resident on earmarks while Alsaka received $198.
See the differance? Oh and this year he requested nothing, but palin see that $198 that is hers

Posted by: Thinking | September 8, 2008, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm

JM, you dont know very much history – most terrorists that have attacked Americans are in fact American, mostly white and christian.

Posted by: Mike | September 8, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm

It is truly simple. If you are happy with your life the way it has been for the last 8 years then vote McCain….if you are not happy vote Obama. With unemployment rates highest in 5 years, soaring food prices, gasoline prices……the choice is easy.
OBAMA/BIDEN 08

Posted by: Republican4ever | September 8, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm

Our Constitution is there to protect CITIZENS of America, not those with whom we are at war.
There is no such thing as habeas corpus rights for prisoners of war, whether a lib thinks there should be or not!!!

Posted by: KFED | September 8, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm

Barack is getting desperate. This complete meltdown is going to be a joy to watch.
He’s gotten a free ride from the media and now … only now … does he have to answer to criticism. Bottom line – he can’t take it.

Posted by: InnominateUser | September 8, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm

Obama does not respect our sacrifice at all! And his BS about signing up for Selective Service as some means to have military experience is a total slap in the face to the men and women that have and do wear the uniform.
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well if you think that Bush and McSame sending our military to an unnecessary war, and then not giving them support when they return is supporting the military, well…. I have swamp land in FL I’d like to sell you.

Posted by: Gus | September 8, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm

So who do all these republicans out here tonight want us to blame for the state of the economy.
Sarah P- “Fannie and Freddie have grown too big and expensive” – as vapid as it gets!!!

Posted by: Don | September 8, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm

JM’s comment about Barack being an idiot because Habeas Corpus is for Americans not for terrorists is pretty scary and ignorant. Americans have been detained by the U.S. government in terrorist probes. So Obama’s point still stands.
It’s sad when people use patriotism as a mask for kicking around the rights that supposedly make this country the land of the free and the home of the brave.

Posted by: Chris | September 8, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm

LMAO! A democrat calling somebody shameless for what they say on the campaign trail. Oh, this is good. Didnt somebody say, history to a Democrat starts today. Keep it up Obama keep shoveling.

Posted by: gregg | September 8, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm

Great point … you’d think Barack Hussein Obama (being a Constitutional lawyer) would know that Habeus Corpus does not apply to prisoners of war … they are PRISONERS OF WAR NOT U.S. CITIZENS!

Posted by: InnominateUser | September 8, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm

KFED, if they are prisoners of war, then the Geneva Conventions apply, after all under our constitution they are US law.

Posted by: Mike | September 8, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm

JoJo… so you’re the future? Someday you’ll see the light when you grow up and get a job. Or maybe American youth has been so coddled that its a hopeless cause. Uh oh… nap time.. better put your head down and rest or you’ll be in time-out.
And CommonSense… you’re kidding me, right? Bush copying Obama’s “strategy”? Obama’s Iraq strategy has one clause… full retreat, pronto. Oh, I stand corrected, there is a second clause… spread misinformation on the success of the surge in order to undermine victory for the purpose of winning an election. But don’t worry, you’re still a Patriot.
Read up on your history folks… get a clue before you open your mouths.

Posted by: Mark L. | September 8, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm

“So who do all these republicans out here tonight want us to blame for the state of the economy.”
How about we start with your darlings in the Congress. You know the Majority liberal Democrat one with the lowest approval rating in history…you know the ones who won’t help America with it gas pump problems…you know the one led by your media circus madam..Nancy Pelosi..who spends her time whoring out her country for liberal radicals in her braindead constituency. How about we start there bro…

Posted by: Bill | September 8, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm

Barrack is getting desperate and it shows. What happened to the Messianic figure who could do no wrong?
Oh that’s right, people are calling him out on his bullsh!t and he doesn’t like it.

Posted by: InnominateUser | September 8, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm

Being civil about this, and protecting other people’s rights, is what distinguishes us from the terrorist, whether they are American or Iraqi’s. If we grab them and throw them in Jail for the rest of their lives without as much as a reason, we are no better then them. We would just be bigger terrorists.

Posted by: Nic | September 8, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm

These people, the BushGOPers will stop at nothing to hang onto their power. Hillary was Mother Theresa compared to these bottom feeders. They are committed to fostering a politics of the “lesser of two evils” rather than offering issues or solutions. No scruples, no conscience, no McCain/Palin!

Posted by: hopesprings52 | September 8, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm

The only truth Palin’s ever
told is that she looks like
a Bull Dawg with lipstick.
The amoral, filthy
Republican party has finally
found their poster child.

Posted by: delfinajones | September 8, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm

Do I see Republicans clinging to guns, and abortion? Yup Yup. One thing for damn sure – the GOP has the stupidest constituency (bar none) on the planet.
Anyone who would fall for the political version of a T&A show as a real strategy is an idiot.
All I hear are GOP talking points from 2000,2004 and again in 2008. I have a suggestion – why don’t you idiots put Karl Rove in office officially, after all he pulls all your strings – Idiots!!!! You can only laugh at these stupid people. Palin is damn near illiterate on the Economy and Iraq – this caribou barbie actully thought the gov owned Freddie and Fannie. This kind of stupidity gives me a headache!

Posted by: julescator | September 8, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm

Fight them, Sen. Obama, fight for us to take our country back!!!!

Posted by: pama | September 8, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm

“the former constitutional law professor ”
so funny. Now they have noticed that the community organizer item on his resume is not that interesting, we start refering to obama as law professor. Sounds great. Until you realize again that we still have the same package and we dive deeper into what he actually did (not so much high tech law here)

Posted by: Ann | September 8, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm

Watching Obama implode should be a complete joy. If he wants to talk about anybody being “shameless,” he should take a square look in the mirror. For some idiotic reason, he things he has the experience and qualities to be the president of the free world! What arrogance!

Posted by: Dee | September 8, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm

Hey, it only took this guy a week to fire back at Palin. Geez, he’s witty … kinda slow, these Harvard types on the one liners and comeback.

Posted by: OBama's Mama | September 8, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm

Olooser even lied about having to sighn up for the draft,he graduated in 79,the law didnt come back into effect until 1980.

Posted by: Tim | September 8, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm

USVet, you seriously need to move on. Hillary lost. Big deal. Do you HONESTLY think she would’ve had a chance against the Republican lying machine come November? No way. The Clintons are LOATHED. She couldn’t even win the primary. She wouldn’t had a chance in the general. Take it from a former Hillary supporter. But you know what? She lost, and I moved on.
And you’re giving Americans WAYYY too much credit if you think most of them have thought hard enough about the election to say ‘Obama’s too far left’. They’re too caught up in the hullabaloo that has come out of Alaska. Hook. Line. Sinker. The 2000 campaign put the writing on the wall: America’s demise. When the seat of the President is won by the ‘dude’ who seems more apt to be social at your barbecue than by his intelligence, judgment and strength, then you’ve got a downward spiral.
I support Obama but I too think he may not win in November. The people gushing over Palin were never going to vote for him anyway. They would’ve reluctantly voted for McCain or sat out the election. Obama’s too smart. Too ‘Presidential’ a la JFK and Roosevelt. President today means: Oooohhh… she can skin a moose. Yee haw! I want her protectin’ me!
If McCain/Palin win (and there’s a strong chance, bc the Repubs are GREAT at lying and stealing elections & Dems just have too much of a conscience to do that), we’ll just keep going downhill. And maybe, MAYBE some day, when this country will have hit rock bottom (bc apparently we’ve not hit it yet), we’ll wake up & the pendulum will swing back to where we pride ourselves in picking the top candidates for President and not hte bottom of the barrel.

Posted by: HG | September 8, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm

Obama says: if the government grabs you, then you have the right to at least ask, ‘Why was I grabbed?’, True, true. It’s just easier to kill terrorists rather than bringing them off the battlefield and clogging the courts.

Posted by: Kelly | September 8, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm

Even Lincoln suspended habeas corpus during the Civil War. And this ALWAYS applied to American Citizens even. On the other side, I don’t know why they don’t just make the detainees POW’s. This means we can keep them as such until Al Queda unconditionaly surrenders.

Posted by: Jeff | September 8, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm

Habeas Corpus for Americans, not for terrorists?!
An American Court is an American Court.
American Justice is American Justice.
And we should be proud of that.

Posted by: steve Z | September 8, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm

McCain = 0.9Bush
Palin = Bushette

Posted by: Loopy Lou | September 8, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm

PRISONERS OF WAR NOT U.S. CITIZENS!
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No Enemy Combatants, the Supreme Court has ruled that they do have the right. Now then if the Bush Admin decides that they want to call them Prisoners of War that is something different again

Posted by: Thinking | September 8, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm

It’s nothing new… Just worn out dreams of Marxism… all over again!!!!
America is too smart to fall for the failed tenants of economic and property seizure and government “regulation” (control of our personal health care, etc.) of Karl’s failed ideals!!
Just Damn!!!

Posted by: Howard Ino | September 8, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm

SHAME, SHAME, FLIM FLAM OBAMAMAN! You need to reevaluate your “change” platform! Everybody is wary of your kind of change – we have heard your mentor, friend and Pastor Wright talk about his hatred for the US government and things he/they don’t like about it! Are you going to bring about the kind of change they want? How about Louis Farrakhan – are you going to bring about the kind of change he wants? No one trusts you Flim Flam Obamaman!
President Elect McCain and Vice President Elect Palin will bring the kind of change and reform that America needs and wants. They aren’t stealing your code words – they are reiterating that they and only they will bring about the change that America needs and wants.
And you keep saying – these people! If you were speaking about black people, you’d be in big trouble. You need to know how to address people if you want to run in International circles. It just would not go there and for that matter, here!
In addition, everybody now knows that you can’t get your point across effectively. You are always having to go back and explain what you said. Why doesn’t America get you? Because we just don’t believe you ever! There are too many unanswered questions about you – we don’t know who you are. Even after we hear you speak we say – what? I don’t think it is because you can’t speak well – it’s just that when your words come out – they are interpreted as your not meaning what you say. You are not credible!
So when – these people – say something about you – they mean it and we understand it! That is why you will be, yet, another losing Democratic bid for the White House. In addition to being inexperienced and unvetted, you are not credible!
THE FLIM FLAM OBAMAMAN – BETTER KNOWN AS – BARACK HUSSEIN SOETORO OBAMA

Posted by: Eileen | September 8, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm

Bush-McFailin’ 08!

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 8, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm

orangecat,
Just for your info, the Pres. does not set domestic policy, The do nothing Dem led Congress does.
All has gone to hell in this country since2006 when the Dems took control of Congress.
Blame those who are responsible for the “mess” we are in, not someone who has no control over domestic policy, i.e. the President!!!

Posted by: KFED | September 8, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm

Just some facts to cut through the fog:
Anchorage Daily News, 2/8/08: “Let’s count how many things Gov. Sarah Palin’s predecessor did that she’s undone. It’s quite a list. The state-owned jet: Sold. The proposed Gravina Island “bridge to nowhere” and a pioneer road to Juneau: Won’t be funded…”
Anchorage Daily News, 3/12/08: “Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens is aggravated about what he sees as Gov. Sarah Palin’s antagonism toward the earmarks he uses to steer federal money to the state… A common target for earmark snipers is the so-called “bridge to nowhere” plugged by Alaska Rep. Don Young into the five-year transportation bill in 2005. Congress stripped the earmarks directing the spending but let the state keep the money to use on the bridge if it wanted. Palin ruffled feathers when she announced – without giving the delegation advance notice – that the state was killing the Ketchikan bridge to Gravina Island, site of the airport and a few dozen residents.”
Alaska Democratic Party website: “Palin recently cancelled the Gravina Island Bridge near Ketchikan that would have connected the Alaska mainland with Gravina Island (population: 50).”
As for the bomb throwing, I don’t believe I would have said that.

Posted by: Winston Smith | September 8, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm

Obama and the democrats ARE more interested in the rights of terrorists than about protecting America. Gov. Palin did not have to tell me this. What better proof could one get than the actions of democrats in Congress? Lets go and give terrorists rights… But it’s elections time, democrats, “the chickens are coming home…”

Posted by: Jaime | September 8, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm

Killerbee,
As a fairly well informed citizen of a coastal state, I can tell you that my state as well as any other state that relies heavily on tourism (which is just about ALL the coastal states) DO NOT WANT DRILLING in their waters, off their beautiful beaches, anywhere near the places they recreate and earn their living. Additionally, it would take at least 10 years to develop these resources, 10 years that we can be spending developing REAL energy independence in the form of our own renewables. The US has 3% of the oil resources and nearly 80% of the demand. There is no way to get around that math. And since each state has the right to declare whether or not it wishes to drill, and most do not, offshore drilling is just a Repub gimmick to get the base all excited. The Democrats know this is a gimmick yet still have to appeal to an electorate grossly uninformed about this issue (not as sexy to report on as Hollywood baby bumps and scandalous VP’s.) Offshore drilling is a no-go.

Posted by: grainne | September 8, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm

Republicans are crying about democrats in congress. Well if the they were doing their work well, they will still be in power. What do they have to show for all those years, ZILCH. Now they have the nerve to question the democratic congress. Shameless indeed

Posted by: Don | September 8, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm

Olooser even lied about having to sighn up for the draft,he graduated in 79,the law didnt come back into effect until 1980.
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That law stipulated that every male between the ages of 18 and 26 are required to sign the darft. So he did in 1980

Posted by: Thinking | September 8, 2008, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm

InnominateUser:
Do you actually believe what you write? Obama is going to be the next POTUS and you can take that to the bank! THE GOP has NO IDEA what is about to hit them. I don’t believe it was the Obama camp that made the desperate pick of Caribou Barbie a day before the campaign. Duh – who sounds desperate. It’s a damn shame they didn’t know she is illiterate – that’s why she can’t talk to the press lol lol Gee it’s hard learning all those names of the other 49 States!

Posted by: julescator | September 8, 2008, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm

Obama said he watched “little bit” of the Palin’s speech. Now, how much is “little bit”; every day he come up with some reference to statements in the Palin’s speech. When Obama does not want to show importance he says “little bit” and when he realized speech is hurting then he start giving “He Said” and “She Said” speeches.
Note: If Palin and McCain would have given similar speech it would have publicize as rant.

Posted by: Tim | September 8, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm

Oh yeah, and I forgot. Obama’s too Black for this country. He spends 20 months out in the media spotlight and people are still saying “Oohh, I don’t know. I just don’t know him enough yet. Besides, I think he’s too inexperienced.”
Four days after the pitbull’s released and America’s GUSHING over her. “We love her. She’s like one of us. She’s got WAYYY more experience than Obama. You know, like Alaska’s right next to Russia. That’s international experience!”
Segregation wasn’t long ago enough. People will say he’s ‘arrogant’ and that’s why they won’t vote for him. Bull. He’s black.
(Oh and I’m white, so all of you who will say I’m pulling the race card – look in the mirror first.)

Posted by: HG | September 8, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm

“How about we start with your darlings in the Congress. You know the Majority liberal Democrat one with the lowest approval rating in history…”
Democrats have controlled Congress for less than two of the last eight years. They didn’t make the mess, and every time they try to do some damage control, the lunatic in the White House picks up his beloved veto pen.

Posted by: El_Pajaro | September 8, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm

well, maybe Obama may have to actually say what he stands for than just give the same ole speech each ad every day. Oh wait a minute, just look at his voting record… oh no, he never votes, just says he is present.
hmmmm
There must be a reason he doesn’t really want anyone to know what he stands for.

Posted by: COWDUDE | September 8, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm

Sarah Palin probably thinks “habeas corpus” is some type of flower.

Posted by: Miranda | September 8, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm

Ever notice how the blowhards who promote never ending war do so with other people’s lives. It’s easy yo be brave when you’ve never seen the inside of a uniform. My advice to guys like Mark L — enlist.

Posted by: Boris | September 8, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm

Where in the Geneva Convention does it approve of torture? You do realize Bush has approved of us using torture at Gitmo and all their other hidden jails around the world.Makes you proud to be an American doesn’t it….doing what we condemn our enemies for.

Posted by: linda n carolina | September 8, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm

Obama is like a 3 year old crying on the playground. When his nursemaids run to assist, he manages to blurt out through the frantic whimpers “He looked at me!” wwwwaaaaaaaaaa!

Posted by: Jami | September 8, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm

To: El_Pajaro, Being 8 years old when Ayers bombed the Pentagon, Our Capital and Police Stations is no excuse to be friends with the person. There were a lot of 8 year old kids on 9/11, and none of them would never be friends with Osam Bin Laden. But not Obama. He has no problem being friends with all sorts of extreme radicals that absolutely hate America. And there’s no arguing that Ayers hates America. A book penned by Ayers, Fugitive Days, landed him in hot water on Sept. 11, 2001. That morning, the New York Times ran a story about the book in which Ayers said, “I don’t regret setting bombs. I feel we didn’t do enough.” El_Pajaro, would you be friends with Ayers, yes or no.

Posted by: Tom Genin | September 8, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm

“Sarah Palin probably thinks “habeas corpus” is some type of flower.”-Miranda
You bet, lol
Tim Kaine is not experienced but SP is. He runs a larger state and for longer. Such hypocrisy, I guess its a prerequisite to register as a…

Posted by: Don | September 8, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm

“Sarah Palin probably thinks “habeas corpus” is some type of flower.”-Miranda
You bet, lol
Tim Kaine is not experienced but SP is. He runs a larger state and for longer. Such hypocrisy, I guess its a prerequisite to register as a…

Posted by: Don | September 8, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm

US Vet – I deal in facts not wishful thinking and the fact that Vets are donating to the Obama campaign 6 to 1 over McCain does not show much support for your candidate. A poll is a measure of enthusiasm on a given day. Cash talks. You stated: “you are really out of touch with our family. Obama does not respect our sacrifice at all! And his BS about signing up for Selective Service as some means to have military experience is a total slap in the face to the men and women that have and do wear the uniform.”
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First of all – tell that to my Great Uncle a POW of WW2. Secondly, I look at the legislative facts, not hyperbole.
Mccain:
Voted against Webb amendment calling for adequate troop rest between deployments.
Voted against the new GI Bill. Oh wait, he didn’t actually show up for the vote. But I think McCain was quite clear about where he stood on that particular bill.
Voted against an amendment providing an additional $20 billion to VA medical facilities.
He was one of only 13 Senators voting against a VA bill for $430 million outpatient care and treatment funding for veterans
Voted against closing corporate loopholes to increase VA funding by $1.5 billion.
Voted against closing “abusive tax loopholes” to increase VA funding by $1.8 billion.
McCain has only a 20% rating from Disabled Veterans of America and received a D from the Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America.
Despite McCain’s claims to the contrary, he has a terrible voting record on military and veterans issues.
Obama:
Wants to fully fund the VA
Wants to allow all veterans to use VA services once again
Wants to combat homelessness among veterans
Wants to fight veteran employment discrimination
Wants to help soldiers transition back into civilian life
Wants to improve mental health treatment and care for traumatic brain injury
Obama’svoting record in the Senate actually supports his claims that he wants to help military families and veterans.
Obama also co-sponsored two important pieces of legislation still pending:
S.2963, “A bill to improve and enhance the mental health care benefits available to members of the Armed Forces and veterans, to enhance counseling and other benefits available to survivors of members of the Armed Forces and veterans, and for other purposes.”
S.2899, The Veterans Suicide Study Act
Obama has an 80% rating from Disabled Veterans of America

Posted by: Paige | September 8, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm

The Syrians have given us more and better information on terrorists than we have ever received by torturing people

Posted by: Mike | September 8, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm

McCain can’t tell ethnic groups in Middle East apart… still thinks Czechoslovakia exists… and shafted veterans in the GI Bill vote. You republicans are living in the twilight zone.
It’s also pathetic to see Reps be more excited about Palin than about your actual presidential candidate. You folks got it backwards. You actually prefer Palin to be president! Sad.

Posted by: KC | September 8, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm

Anglo-American law? Where did you get that slogan? Our country was not founded on Anglo-American anything…it was founded on Judeo-Christian thinking. This Anglo-American stuff sounds like more of the politically correct crowd thinking to me…and there is a big difference between the two. Judeo-Christian is about thinking according to the Bible’s standard’s…Anglo-American (a new phrase BTW) is an attempt to redefine our constitutional foundation and our history…ignoring our obvious Judeo-Christian heritage…This is what so many of us are tired of seeing. The political elite and university scholars trying to jam a non-Christian way of thinking down our throats…Why? Because they hate God and think they know how to do it better…thereby making themselves out to be our new gods in the process. They will win some battles but they have lost the war.

Posted by: csnarnia | September 8, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm

Sen. Obama, please continue to fight for the middle class. You are our voice and you have our support. Don’t ever doubt that. We hope that you will continue to expose the shamelessness and hypocrisy of your opponents. They’re despicable and will employ all kinds of dirty tricks to win the elections. But they will not, because Americans are not that stupid.

Posted by: AJC10 | September 8, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm

On June 12, 2008, the Supreme Court ruling in Boumediene v. Bush recognized habeas corpus rights for the Guantanamo prisoners.
Obama 08

Posted by: conjure | September 8, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm

The constitution doesn’t apply to non US citizens, especially those who are our enemies. Palin was dead on about you and you know it!
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The Supreme Court ruled otherwise, but I defer to you Tim as I am sure that is what McCain would want me to do.

Posted by: Thinking | September 8, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm

Obama and Biden can only play the “victim” card for so long and now people are opening their eyes to Mr. Change. Zero accomplishments in Illinois and D.C. but only out for himself. Trying to get that golden government parachute like 99% of all lazy government employees before they reach 50 se he can retire. Bye, bye Mr. Zero.

Posted by: Willy Brown | September 8, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm

Thanks goodness for Obama for sharing true American ideals.
McCain/Palin campaign is full of lies regarding their voting record, political ties, connection to lobbyists, and support of programs like the Bridge to Nowhere.

Posted by: Anonymiss | September 8, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm

To:KFED…and who got our a$$ in this war?Both of these wars..Duh!!And working on the third?

Posted by: orangecat | September 8, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm

Barack is imploding, his collapse is imminent.
I’m not only expecting McCain to win but win in a landslide.

Posted by: John Doe | September 8, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm

RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT 2008. ‘Nuff Said.

Posted by: M | September 8, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm

If Palin could grasp any issue with constitutional law…
you know the thing that actually made this country great…
instead of subjegating facts and science to her church beliefs…
maybe she would understand why law is important why willing it doesn’t catch anybody…
you actually have to have a plan that goes after them …maybe she could talk to her boss about that…
maybe she could point out that he’s got our focus where the terrorists AREN’T.
Meanwhile she screws up her comments on the banks
her first question so far
1 question one completely inept answer
3567 to go…
maybe she should spend less time attacking Obama …and more time doing her homework from joe lieberman every night.
atleast read the cliffnotes completely Sarah.

Posted by: dl | September 8, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm

We’d be able to take apart the Bin Laden network in a matter of days if the Republicans weren’t so interested in protecting their offshore tax shelters that they aren’t willing to let the government go after his financiers.

Posted by: Mike | September 8, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm

for shamelessness and dishonesty.
This is coming from a Chicago politician… Someone who supports Mayor Daley when an $8 million dollar contract had to be rebid after an inside deal with his nephew. Who in this country trusts a Chicago politician?

Posted by: j.jones2008 | September 8, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm

Mom!! There calling me names again!
This is not Chicago street baseball you are playing. Grow a pair and stop whining. It getting the Brie all wet.

Posted by: joe, farmington,NH | September 8, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm

ED Palin does not approve of abortion for incest and rape.This is “trashing her”??? Maybe you want the government to control your wife’s and daughter’s reproductive decisions but it’s not ok with me.Everyone has the right to know where she stands on the issues and if you and she don’t like well too bad.

Posted by: linda n carolina | September 8, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm

What a shame to have to stoop as low as Sen. Obama did in that speech.
You and I know that what Gov. Palin said was a metaphor, but yet Sen. Obama chooses to hinge his speech on it.
Them he goes on to claim, that Gov. Palin is lying when she says she stopped the bridge to no where. Folks, go back up to the article and look to the left sidebar. Do you see the link to the article entitled…”Fighting a Different Alaska Republican, Alaska Dems Credit Palin with Killing Bridge to Nowhere”.
Who’s lying now, Senator?
Senator Obama; you said just the other day, let’s focus on issues, and stop the attacks. You proclaimed that you were taking the high road.
What do you call what you’ve just done? And yet you wonder why people still distrust you?

Posted by: Evets | September 8, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm

Really. You’re focusing on Ayers? An association that is minimal and for which there is no evidence that Obama ever supported or contributed to any of Ayers’ activities with the Weather Underground. That’s what you’re focusing on? You’re not concerned that the McCain, Palin, and the other speakers at the RNC lied repeatedly to you? Much the same way the GOP has been lying to us for the last eight years?
No connection between Iraq and 9/11. Meanwhile, Bin Laden is still free. The Taliban is expanding again in Pakistan. Our military is stretched just about as thin as it can get. Most of the world dislikes us, if they don’t outright hate us. (And yes, contrary to what small minded, xenophobic, ignorant people think…that does in fact matter.)
By no means am I excusing Democrats because frankly…they’ve dropped the ball along the way too. But Obama wants to talk about policy and things that actually matter in our lives. The McCain campaign wants to make this a personality contest. They don’t want to talk about unemployment, the mortgage crisis, out-of-control energy consumption (And hey…offshore oil drilling in federal waters won’t really cut prices at the gas pump…just an fyi), or health care. They’re lying to you.
And yet…you’re focusing on Ayers. Or how elitist Obama supposedly is. Or how he’s secretly a Muslim. Don’t you care about rising unemployment? Don’t you care about people losing their homes? Don’t you care about your grandchildren inheriting a damaged planet? How can you not be angry about what has happened in this country in the last eight years? How can you laugh about the erosion of our constitutional rights? How can you label someone who cares about actually preserving the things that make us Americans as unpatriotic? How can you accept the constant lying from Bush, McCain and now Palin?
I don’t understand how anyone in this country can possibly condone the hateful, spiteful, divisive rhetoric that I heard coming from the RNC last week. I don’t understand how anyone can accept a campaign that says the issues don’t matter in this election. I don’t have health care, and I’ve taken out thousands of dollars in student loans to pay for my education. So I can teach children one day to think for themselves. Not accept whatever line some pundit or politician is shoveling at them.
I’m patently offended and disgusted that someone would have the audacity to tell me this campaign shouldn’t focus on energy policies and health care, but instead…it should be about irrelevant issues like Ayers.

Posted by: Rebecca | September 8, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm

And which lies are we talking about here? Compared to 67 hit pieces in the NY Times during Sarah Palin’s first three days, I feel “so sorry’ for Obama.
By all means vette Palin. Then allow the same degree of investigation of Obama.
You Dems are so confident, let’s shine the light of truth on all of them and see what we see. Put up or shut up.

Posted by: Flyoverman | September 8, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm

Joe Biden voted 3 times against a bill until his son was hired by MBNA in Delaware. The next time it came up he voted for it. The bill favored MBNA and Biden says it’s not how it looks. Sounds like a LAME duck to me…

Posted by: j.jones2008 | September 8, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm

I’m so sick and tired of Obama’s crying…the Middle East will eat him alive….

Posted by: Wefdog | September 8, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm

Democrats still have time to pull Obama from the presidential race. He is way below John Kerry or Al Gore at this point in the polls. Hillary has a better chance in an open election.

Posted by: John Doe | September 8, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm

same team same tactics
don’t get played for a 9th year.
throw the bums out …including the wannabe new recruits like Palin…
who seems to have ethics as strong as Bush’s and Mccain’s leadership team that is hiding the witness and calling the press “liberal” as they point their fingers
the exact same thing that Nixon did…and we saw with wmd, judicial appointees, energy closed door meetings, katrina, oh
the list is too long to list here…
but it ends with a plane on ebay…in a speech that no one knows how the line got in … hmmm sounds familiar.
enough!
we want our country back!

Posted by: dl | September 8, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm

Mc7lobbyistinmycampaign is going to shake up Washington, how about shake up your campaign?

Posted by: Don | September 8, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm

Obama is right, every one of the Republicn attack ads is based on lies and half-truths. I’m glad he is calling their bluff. American’s aren’t stupid like the Republicans want them to be. This is the internet era. You no longer have to be an insider to know when a lie is being told. All Sarah Palin has to do is tell a lie and wink, and all of the Republicans go wild, guiving her a standing ovation because they think she is “hot”. She is an empty headed Barbie doll programmed to lie, smile, and lick her lips like a two dollar hooker.

Posted by: Rich | September 8, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm

Ayers? Seriously? Thats all you got? Socialist? For real? Comments made by conservatives sound like my 14 yr old daughter. Grow up.

Posted by: FlaJay | September 8, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm

Yes, sadly they focus on Ayers regarding bombs, but fail to mention the 90,000-1.5 million documented civilian deaths in Iraq. A country we invaded with NO ties to 9/11 and NO weapons of Mass Destruction. Oh yea! and McCain wants to Bomb, bomb, bomb, Iran!

Posted by: NMP | September 8, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm

” Maybe you want the government to control your wife’s and daughter’s reproductive decisions but it’s not ok with me.”
She’s pro life. THANK GOD. What’s sad is trying to scare people into thinking that’s going to make her views forcibly yours. That’s truly low, and quite frankly pathetic. It’s also backfiring on your party in epic proportions..keep it up.

Posted by: Ed | September 8, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm

What a shame to have to stoop as low as Sen. Obama did in that speech.
You and I know that what Gov. Palin said was a metaphor, but yet Sen. Obama chooses to hinge his speech on it.
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Shame, Shame, Shame God do you people ever take responsibility for your own actions? Metaphore my foot!

Posted by: Thinking | September 8, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm

“Our Constitution is there to protect CITIZENS of America, not those with whom we are at war.
There is no such thing as habeas corpus rights for prisoners of war, whether a lib thinks there should be or not!!!”
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Now, here’s my question, KFED: the Geneva Convention was put in place to make sure that soldiers fighting in wars would be ensured a level of human treatment that could be called habeus corpus. How are our soldiers meant to feel any chance at humane treatment if we are locking up enemies and either torturing them or throwing away the key?
I know that a lot of people watch too much “24″ and think that crap actually works, but stacks of studies show that it doesn’t. You get false info out of terrified people. (You also end up imprisoning taxi drivers for half a decade.) What does work? Friendly coercion, among other things.
So it’s not about being a bleeding heart liberal. It’s about caring how our soldiers are treated, and actually paying attention to what forms of information collecting WORK.

Posted by: Grace | September 8, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm

This is a riot. When the man wasn’t saying anything back he was being soft and there was doubt that he’d be able to defend our country. Now that he is yelling and screaming because these mf’s are crazy, its too much. I agree with the guy in the beginning, it is because he is Black and that is not to say that white people that read this are racist. We are all a little shocked, we are used to Black guys doing ok for themselves, a Bill Cosby or something, but not the president. And the fact of the matter is that he will be more well received in an international stage because he is a person of color and all other people are persons of color except for Europeans (Anglo-Saxons). So they will feel a kinship with him that will never be achieved with a white candidate. Black people in America have studied other cultures all our lives so we know not to, say throw up on the prime minister or not bow when we are supposed to or any of that stuff. These old white dudes have had their heads stuck up there crouch so long, they didn’t notice anyone else was there.
Bottom line people, a law degree from Harvard against a BA from the UNiversity of Idaho or whatever degree John McCain’s family paid for him to get. Stop playing yourselves, Barack Obama is more qualified to do this job than either of the candidates because he understands American politics and the law. He also has experience in Washington, not to knock Senator McCain’s experience, because he has over 20 years experience in Washington supporting people that have led us into mindless wars and endless recessions — he hasn’t used his head in the last 20 years, so it is hard to imagine that he is going to change much after he has been voting in a way that benefits the rich and corporate for so long. I just don’t trust it.
I want cheap gas, I want ALL poor children (poor according to John McCain is anyone making less than 5 million a year, so that include 98 percent of the world)no matter what the race to go to school and get assistance from the federal government so that the American Dream can be realized for everyone. The undergraduate degree is the new high school diploma, if you don’t have at least a BA or a BS, you are screwed and in some states that is all it takes to be governor! Go Fig!

Posted by: queennubia | September 8, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm

Obama will protect and defend the constitution more than the Republicans because he is a constitutional scholar whereas McCain and Palin probably don’t understand the spirit and the letter of the constitution. Todd seems like the cool Alaskan dude. Wonder whether he is sedated to put up with his high energy wife, while his wife Sarah seems high on drugs (Caffeine). McCain is temperamental and if he becomes the president he needs to be kept away from the red button or from making other rash decisions. The only real cool ticket is Obama-Biden but if they don’t expose the dishonesty of their opponents they will be in for a surprise. Obama always remained cool through the primaries and will remain cool through the election. He has a plan and the gallup polls don’t make a difference.

Posted by: gjkotw01 | September 8, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm

I’m still just in disbelief over this. It’s just not possible for any thinking person to want more of what we’ve lived for the last 8 years. Phony motivations for war? Political manipulations of the justice department? A crashing economy? Rapidly increasing foreign debt? We’re moving quickly from George W Bush’s America to George Orwell’s, and those of you that are voting for the McCain Palin ticket are applauding the direction we’re heading in. It’s simply not possible to explain it any other way. This is a ticket that not only offers more of the same, but worse. Do all of you want to live in the first industrialized power to become a failed economic state? Does your need to see America’s posturing as a boost to your own egos and a reflection of your fears extend so far? Are you willing to see the greatest country in the history of the world fail, just so you won’t have to admit you’re wrong?
I just don’t understand how anyone can see this as a good thing; I just don’t understand how anyone can want more of this; I just don’t understand how anyone can see a vote for McCain-Palin as anything other than that.

Posted by: Sean in Los Angeles | September 8, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm

Jack,
That is an incredibly interesting post about Barak “horse”….where can that be documented?

Posted by: csnarnia | September 8, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm

NMP,
You are not a hilary suporter you never listened to a word that she said.. I think that you are a republican hack.
For the rest of the people who think that McSame/Palin are good for the country think about this dont we have a compassionate conservative in office now
God help Us all

Posted by: LeLe | September 8, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm

Rebecca, if most of the world hates us then why is it that most of the liberal governments that trash-talked us have been thrown out of office and replace with conservative ones? France, Germany, Canada… all replaced liberal leaders with conservatives. The fact of the matter is most liberal news media around the world hated us, much like MSNBC. Its a shame all countries don’t have a Fox News where you can hear the other (true) side.

Posted by: zeekbag | September 8, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm

Posted by: Rebecca | Sep 8, 2008 9:28:02 PM
Ayers is relevant, because if Obama was not a Presidential candidate he would not be granted a security clearance, based on his CURRENT associations. I do not want someone like Obama with access to things a Captain would see, much less a President.
There is enough money for healthcare to sink Montana. Try using it effectively! Besides where in the Constitution does it state the Federal governemt is to be involved in healthcare? Oh yes, it’s a “living document.” Gag me.

Posted by: Flyoverman | September 8, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm

Is it me or is Barack incoherent these days?
Barack is one to call people shameless and liars.
Sarah Palin killed the bridge to nowhere. So what if she changed her mind after the cost doubled? She made the right decision.
Barack Obama voted for the Bridge To Nowhere…and never changed his mind. He voted AGAINST using the money for Katrina relief.
John Kerry made the right decision, and then changed it to the wrong decision.
I think the winner of this is clear.
…and why is Obama calling her a “shameless liar”?
Hope? Change? New Politics?
Not…

Posted by: Matt | September 8, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm

Obama is for such change thqt he chose an almost 4 decade Senator as his running mate. I remember Carter did the same thing with Mondale and where did that one lead us? Change with a 4 decade Senator as his running mate? Wake up peoples!

Posted by: j.jones2008 | September 8, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm

It would seem that Obama’s “political skin” is as thin as his resume. I do not ever recall any politician whining and crying about the campaign process the way he does. Yes it is rough, but already it seems he does not have the right stuff to get through it let alone be Commander in Chief of the United States.
I ask you, if Obama gets elected (God help us), what is going to happen the first time Ahmadinejad or Kim Jong-il junior, or some other punk ass says boo to The Chosen One? He will probably start to cry before he huffs “these people!”

Posted by: veritaseequitas | September 8, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm

Politics is Politics and Politicians are Politicans. In the heat of a campaign they tend to turn into pissy little people that are full of meaningless rhetoric. You have to look at their record if they have one. McCain has a record of being in the aisle with both republicans and democrats many times yet to listen the left/democrats you would think he was a member of the John Birch Society that is disingenous on their part. He actually is what I would call conservative-light. Obama on the other hand has no record, to claim he does is complete nonsense. Therefore, all we can look at is his past associations and frankly they have been with less then desirably every body knows it but they are so bent on getting a democrat in the White House they have lost their sense of reality.

Posted by: Bud | September 8, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm

LeLe- did you mis-post? What are you talking about? The post names are BELOW the comments.

Posted by: NMP | September 8, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm

The McCain ticket has to rely on blatant lies in their last-ditch effort to win this election. My, McCain certainly must admire Bush—he’s using the same propaganda techniques.
Now McCain, who looks older than his own 96 year old mother, talks big and says he is going to chase Osama bin Laden to the gates of hell. With whom? The same incompetent Bush cronies who have allowed bin Laden to roam free for the last 7 years. What would McCain do if he caught him? Bore him to death by repeating his POW story over and over and over and over again?

Posted by: New Yorker for Obama | September 8, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm

Just what we need…more lawyers in the White House! Smartest people on the planet…just ask one.

Posted by: Tim | September 8, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm

wefdog
does Palin know where the middle east is?
oh yeah that’s right that is where her son is going I heard it in her speech the 35th time.
you know the son that should be off limits being used for campaigning…
Biden and mccain don’t talk about their kids going over there…hmm I guess “noble” is a subjective term…
can’t wait until she starts including details in her pseeches…and actually answering questions…and follow ups like every other politician has done since the beginning of this campaign
you know the way we find out if they have ANY clue as to ANYTHING that is going on…
she is still reading the same speech.
and not answering questions …
what candidate does one interview that is pre-;pprepared and then asks America to vote for them
same team same tactics…
throw the bums who got us here and there scummy ethics and hide and seek politics …out.

Posted by: dl | September 8, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm

How many meetings did Obama convene on his oversight committee on Afghanistan? Could they not have discussed ways to get Osama Bin Laden?
He convened ZERO meetings. ZERO.
That is the real ZEROBAMA.

Posted by: Matt | September 8, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm

After viewing “Obama Exposed” last night on CNN, I am ready to support Barrack 100% for Mayor of Chicago.

Posted by: Zonn | September 8, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm

“After viewing “Obama Exposed” last night on CNN, I am ready to support Barrack 100% for Mayor of Chicago.”
Yeah they really need a good community organizer….
/snicker

Posted by: ed | September 8, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm

Barak was NEVER a law professor. Look it up, just more media spin. The empty suit with the phony resume has the nerve to accuse anyone of anything is a joke.

Posted by: Jim | September 8, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm

Democrats are hilarious in their arguments…so much emotion, so little substance
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“This campaign will not be about issues”- Rick Davis, McSame campaign chairman

Posted by: Don | September 8, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm

McCain = 0.9Bush
Palin = Bushette

Posted by: Lofton, Kenny | September 8, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm

McCain & Palin are nothing but outright liars. They both have been caught in one lie after another.They are deceiving you every day, and just because they say somehting does not mean it is true.
You guys who still believe their lies are stupid. Yeah that’s right. He thinks you are stupid, and YOU ARE STUPID…for believing him
The worst economic record is happening right under your nose, and you want to give the repugs another chance? He thinks you are stupid, and YOU ARE STUPID for believing him.
McCain backed Bush 95% of the time, and he says he is going to change Washington? He IS Washington, and he voted for all the terrible things that are happening today! He thinks you are stupid, and YOU ARE STUPID….for believing him.
Fool me once shame on you, Fool me twice…sahme on me. Fool me three times…I am stupid. That is what you are …STUPID.

Posted by: cannary | September 8, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm

housing crisis
financial mess
Taliban regrouping
unemployment highest in 15 years
middle class shrinking
but, McCain offers up a woman with a vast knowledge of moose and none of the above matters.
for MORE OF THE SAME VOTE JOHN McCAIN!

Posted by: Gus | September 8, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm

This is rediculus name one thing that maverick john has done that is different than that compassionate conervative bozo

Posted by: LeLe | September 8, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm

Tom Genin,
that’s a no. And Obama is not friends with Ayers. That story is a classic example of the worn-out swiftboat tactics, the only thing Republicans are really good at. They only work through innuendo and cannot stand a fact check. Same with this one.

Posted by: El_Pajaro | September 8, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm

JOe – We all live in your neighborhood.

Posted by: Yup | September 8, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm

Um…I guess you don’t travel much outside of the country, Zeek. Or watch or listen to news that isn’t Fox. I read and watch a variety of news sources, including Fox. I believe the more information, the better. Saying one source is true above all others sounds a lot like brainwashing to me. No offense.
As for the constitution only protecting US citizens…
What harm does it do to give suspected terrorists due process? Doesn’t that make us better and more civilized than they are? Or do you want to get as dirty as they are?

Posted by: Rebecca | September 8, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm

Wefdog
Correction….The Middle East “is” eating him alive.

Posted by: csnarnia | September 8, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm

So if Sarah didnt stop the bridge to nowhere why does the Democratic Party website in Alaska say that she did? At least it did before they took it down. I think Obama should at least check with his own folks about that before calling Sarah a liar.

Posted by: Jack | September 8, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm

It’s beginning to shape that way, McCain by a probable landslide.

Posted by: richard | September 8, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm

He only see silence??

Posted by: LeLe | September 8, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm

Sam
why don’t you post the plans and “changes” that Mccain and palin have to get us out of this mess…
and please don’t say keep this…and keep that…
that would be the road we are on…
and show me the answers and knowledge that they have on any issue out of mcCain adn the surge quelling violence…
how about the economy?
how about our dependence on oil …and the fact that drilling only gets the oil out of the ground and the people who get it out of the ground put up to the world market…they have to…and like McCain’s big plans with oil in iraq…we get outbid by china
oh and that oil they want to drill …even if we drilled everywhere it would add 3-4% to the world supply…it doesn’t go back to America directly
did you all know that
so what are they planning …really planning with details for theat problem?
they are blowing smoke up you a@@.
McCain palin is the same false campaign that was run in 2000 and 2004.
same one same plans, same policies, same ethics, same tactics, same players…
same lobbyist leadership team…
what are they going to do and what knowledge of ANY of the issues can you show me where either of those two answered questions in detail with follow ups like Obama and Biden have done in the past 2 days in their interviews
because if you didn’t see them then you missed a lot of plans…
and a lot of answers to the horrible questions we are facing
Palin…silence…like the same wall that blocked out the scandals and mistakes of the last 8 years.

Posted by: dl | September 8, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm

Neither party has ALL of the answers. We are diverse in our wants, needs and ideals but as an Ind I have to choose someone with a solid record of defense to our country. We should not have to raise taxes for anyone but control the spending and use common sense in doing it. I have heard Obama respond and not lead. My choice is simple. I will choose McCain and volunteer my time to do it. Obama is a well educated person but I am not. I worked like hell to make my life better and didn’t blame anyone while doing it. Oh yeah… GO RAYS!

Posted by: j.jones2008 | September 8, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm

“It is not very presidential of Obama to say things like; these people, not the first time he is insulting the American people”
I’m sorry but if you’re an American and you don’t respect the constitution, you are not a true American.

Posted by: johnny | September 8, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm

“US Vet McCain voted : NO 20 million for veteran facilities. NO…322 million for safety equipment for Iraqi troops. NO…1 million for new equipment for the National Guard.NO 430 million for veteran outpatient care. That’s how much McCain supports the troops.”
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I would have voted no also since those bills had so much non-military/veteran pork attached to them. If the Dems would give a “clean bill” then there would be support for it.

Posted by: Skate | September 8, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm

Some of you people need to get your information from credible news sources other than Limbaugh and Hannity.

Posted by: earthtodorks | September 8, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm

Oh yeah, poor Barry and Joe. Like they have been totally honest themselves. What a crybaby.

Posted by: Cynthia | September 8, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm

America is going to hell in a handbasket – the religious conservatives should appreciate that reference.
With this much partisanship & hate, and with this much ignorance & attachment to old ways, we’re all doomed.
OR…. are we?
Stewart/Colbert ’08!!!

Posted by: HG | September 8, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm

Good grief. Pro-choice doesn’t mean pro-abortion. When life begins is a matter of personal faith, since I have yet to seen any scientific research that can definitively answer the question. If you believe life begins at conception, great! Don’t have an abortion.
Pro-choice is about giving a woman the right to choose what is best for her body. Neither the government nor anyone else should be poking their noses into the medical decisions a woman makes regarding her health.

Posted by: Rebecca | September 8, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm

Who would you trust…an attorney or certified patriot?

Posted by: DahktaD | September 8, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm

McCain and Palin have been telling so many lies it is pathetic. Also, McCain owes all of the community organizer and volunteers an apology. Also, McCain needs to be criminally charged for ‘receiving stolen property’ and he needs to pay for those flags the republicans stole from Obama convention. McCain and Palin have no integrity or honor!

Posted by: Leah | September 8, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm

Jack it didn’t say that Palin stopped the bridge
it said that she said…the congress wasn’t going to give them enough money in the earmark to do it.
then she kept the money
and ignored the other earmarked bridge that is twice as costly and almost as controversial…just up the bay from the other one.
yeah she said nothing about that one…and kept the money…
this woman is bad…
the worst Presidential decision for the country …throwing the nation under the bus for his own election

Posted by: dl | September 8, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm

Barack Obama: “We’re the ones that we’re waiting for”.
PUMA: “We’re the ones ‘they’ weren’t expecting”.

Posted by: PUMAWINS! | September 8, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm

Never underestimate the Stupidity of the American public. The Republicans havn’t and look how much it’s paying off.

Posted by: realist | September 8, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm

El_Pajaro,
Yes, Obama is friends with Ayers, His campaign manager even admitted it…..check your facts.

Posted by: michael Taff | September 8, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm

OMG O’Reily is eating Obama alive lmao

Posted by: Country First | September 8, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm

I do find it interesting that the Republicans that talk about the Democrats not wanting to protect America are the very same Republicans that don’t have a problem with this administration using the Constitution as toilet paper.
The Republicans talk about how sacred the 2nd Amendment is to them, but I guess they didn’t count pass two because they seem content with crapping on on the 4th, 5th, and 6th Amendments.
McCain says he’s a Maverick. And that’s all it is, talk. He believes if he says it often enough, you’ll ignore the fact he has the same policies as Bush, has voted with Bush 90% of the time. No, he thinks if you hear him say he’s a maverick, you’ll be stupid enough to believe it.

Posted by: Mark | September 8, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm

The more I hear Obama speak, he’s not presidential.

Posted by: Christie | September 8, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm

Gov’t BAILOUT of Ginnie and Fannie … the entities behind the mortgage debacle. So US TAXPAYERs have effectively funded the $BILLIONS in salary and bonuses to Democrat politicians and their crony friends.
All upside to cronies, downside underwritten by SUCKERS.
Want more of this — vote for OBAMA .

Posted by: Donald Neeley | September 8, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm

Angelene, welfare is not a business.

Posted by: Steve | September 8, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm

I sure hope Charlie is going to ask her if she will promise to make sure that Alaska gets no more earmarks
since they have an economy that is built on earmarks and the oil economy…
and don’t let that fool you
that is why she has an 80% favorability record…
the oil’s huge profits
yeah she taxed them and the state lived off them
and in all of you mcCain’s definition that tax she did…you paid for.
so in essence your theory on the windfall profits tax…YOU paid for her 80% favorability rating.

Posted by: dl | September 8, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm

Oh Jake thanks for telling us what that big word means. :)

Posted by: Thinking | September 8, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm

I would like ALL who read this to know that I can just about predict that McCain/Palin WILL win because of their true and honest effort to fight for America. And of course the liberals and the medias attacks on them will also help.

Posted by: michael Taff | September 8, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm

Make no mistake about my wife and I have donated to Obama and will vote for him. Since we own our own home and bring over $100,000 a year I can’t wait til McCain wins. When enough of you lose your healthcare, jobs and homes and maybe your diginty I’ll still be sitting here wondering how the hell all of you voted for another 4 years of Republican rule.
Best of luck!!!

Posted by: John | September 8, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm

Mrs. Phoenix, you sound a little bitter yourself. How do you know so well who Obama’s top advisor is, and if it was Mrs. Obama, what she said about Hillary? How do you presume to know what she thinks? Have you had any interactions with her, aside from seeing her on television? What makes you think she’s so bitter, aside from her complexion? Is it the complexion that vexes you so? See how I can come up with these accusations and not know who the heck you are, but still sound negative and demeaning. Well, you sound exactly like Palin and her cohorts. Take your negative UNTRUE comments to a right-wing site where you’re probably better received. Better yet, go to AOL. These people……
p.s. and for the record, Palin is the VICE PRESIDENTIAL ticket. McCain is on top, no matter how much you don’t want him to be. NEver forget that. ITs between Barack and John. We’ll see who comes out on top.

Posted by: DK | September 8, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm

I’m 57, fought aggressively against the Viet War and my last Presidential vote was ’92 for Perot.
Each 4 years I look to see if there is someone running who I can keep my lunch down long enough to get thru the voting exercise. It starts with the candidates being able to show at the least that they are grownup enough to communicate with each other in a civil manner.
Now I can’t say if I can vote for McCain yet, but I can now say I will definitely not be able to vote for Obama. When he called McCain / Palin liars he crossed the line of civility that is of great importance to me. We need as a people/nation to stop this name calling or all is lost.

Posted by: steve | September 8, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm

PUMAWINS, the last laugh will be on you. When people can’t accept reality and hang onto what they lost, they’ll never win. The whole PUMA argument that Hillary was robbed and therefore you’re going to vote McCain/Palin is biting your nose off to spite your face. You think that with Palin in power as VP for 4 years Hillary will have a chance in 2012? Seriously? I mean REALLY!?!?
Take it from a former Hillary supporter. Move on!

Posted by: HG | September 8, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm

Donald Neeley
the truth is the mortgage crisis is a direct effect from the Republican congress…adn the deregulation that Mr Gramm championed through that congress…on both banking, and energy.
do you know Mr. Gramm the guy who wrote the enron loophole
yeah …you also might know him because he literally wrote John mcCain’s economic policy
you know the one that is just a xerox of Bush’s…you know the last 8 years…
plus whatever gramm slipped in between the lines.
throw the bums out.

Posted by: dl | September 8, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm

It is 57 days before the election. WE are in dire straights in this county.
The highest unemployment rate in five years!
The bailout of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac happened today!
Palin is more like Bush than McCain. She is toxic on the environment…she hates polar bears. She does not believe ins science. She wants to teach creationism. She is not that bright. McCain is OLD.
What is wrong with you people? Did you not learn your lesson with Bush twice? Do you not know people who have lost their jobs, their homes, died prematurly becuase they could not afford a Dr? Do you know kids who have dies in the war?
Where is your sense of responsibility to our country? For God’s sake…get educated. Know who you are votging for. This is not Amercian Idol….it is for keeps, and the fate of ou country depends upon a smart electorate. Don;t be STUPID. We hav e chance to set things right in this country by voting for smart for a change…don’t let the media and bad ads make us all regret the outcome of this election because you idiots want a president who is just like you…stupid.

Posted by: cannary | September 8, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm

Thanks LDC, I will be happy as a lark WHEN McCain wins!

Posted by: michael Taff | September 8, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm

Any uneducated person who says Obama is a socialist HAS NO IDEA WHAT SOCIALISM IS!
Too bad nobody can afford to go to college anymore…thus a population of easily manipulated morons.
And the media is complicit. Mostly just a willing mouthpiece for bullying, right wing propaganda.
The founding fathers would roll in their graves.

Posted by: Shauna | September 8, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm

Obama just makes me sick. He is sooo condescending. This is what the country needs– a law professor wannabe to lecture small town America about the constitution. This guy has never done anything long enough to get really good at it and this is no exception.
NObama!

Posted by: NJH | September 8, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm

HG, thanks for the advice. I’ve moved on. McCain/Palin08.

Posted by: PUMAWINS | September 8, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm

steve
but she lied.
she did not tell the congress thanks but no thanks on that bridge
congress wasn’t looking like they were going to give her enough money for it in the earmark.
so she told the voters of the state of Alaska exactly that…then kept the money.
that is a lie.

Posted by: dl | September 8, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm

Poor Obama. He’s been unmasked for being nothing more than a talking suit. Keep crying and singing the blues. It looks so presidential.
As for Palin trying to get money for Alaska, that’s the job of an executive, to get as much as he or she can for they city/state they represent. She was doing her job and apparently doing it well.

Posted by: Dale | September 8, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm

donald neeley–great repug talking point, take the fact that repugs have been running the economy for the past 8 years and blame the fannie mae bailout on the democrats and obama; brilliant!

Posted by: rodney | September 8, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm

@Mrs. Phoenix
That’s a lie. Michelle never said that. Here’s what she said according to the Sun Times:
“At another stop, in Atlantic, Michelle said she travels with her husband in part ‘to model what it means to have family values,’ adding ‘if you can’t run your own house, you can’t run the White House.’”

Posted by: El_Pajaro | September 8, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm

Poor Obama. He’s been unmasked for being nothing more than a talking suit. Keep crying and singing the blues. It looks so presidential.
As for Palin trying to get money for Alaska, that’s the job of an executive, to get as much as he or she can for they city/state they represent. She was doing her job and apparently doing it well.
~~ You mean like getting earmarks for your constituency? Obama IQ = 2XPalin+4XMcCain
McCain = 90% Bush
Palin = Bushette

Posted by: FiFo Feefins | September 8, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm

It’s sad to think that Obama will do anything for the middle class. Are all Obama supporters so blinded by the pixie dust in their dreamworld to think that the tax increases will not come out of their pocket? Do they also think corporations pay taxes? The increase in taxes on corporations, that Obama constantly speaks of, will be passed on to consumers. All Democrats, take a deep breath and try to think rationally for once. Obama is for income redistribution, meaning your income to someone else.

Posted by: BuckeyeVet | September 8, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm

John, I’m with you. I’m a Democrat who is very grateful for a comfortable living and I’ll still vote Dem. I just don’t understand the accusation that we’re all socialists. I don’t have a problem with intelligent and moderate Republicans. I have a serious problem with neocons like Bush, Cheney and Palin. At the same time, I have a serious problem with socialism. I actually support free trade and foreign investments. So when I hear people call me a Commie and I’m dumbfounded.
Anyway, glad you and your wife are doing well!!

Posted by: HG | September 8, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm

Obama finally admitted to his “My Muslim Faith” on Sunday ABC’s “This Week”. What more proof is needed.

Posted by: Richard | September 8, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm

YOU ALL NEED TO REMEMBER THAT MCPALIN REDNECKS AND LOW INFORMATION VOTES DO NOT USE THE INTERTUBES…THEY ARE ALL PAID CAMPAIGN BLOGGERS. NO ONE WOULD ACTUALLY WRITE THIS IGNORANT CRUD UNLESS THEY WERE GETTING PAID TO DO SO.
PLEASE EDUCATE YOURSELF ON BARACK OBAMA HE IS THE REAL DEAL….WHOSE WORD ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE? THE PEOPLE WHO CANNOT ADMIT THAT BUSH IS HORRIBLE OR THE PEOPLE WHO TRIED TO STOP BUSH EVEN UNDER THREAT?

Posted by: TROLL HUNTER | September 8, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm

McCain = 0.9Bush
Palin = Bushette

Posted by: Frankly Georgian | September 8, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm

I have to admit, it’s just downright odd the way Obama has changed as a candidate since Palin was announced as McCain’s running mate.
Obama used to be the one to fascinate, the cool personality. He was suave, didn’t dare attack opponents like he does now. Now he just looks like a really bad politician. Mockery never won anyone the presidency (think Al Gore’s eye roll during the debates).
We all knew that the day would come when Obama wouuld be forced to transition from being a star to just being a regular politician, but nobody thought it would be this soon.
I almost feel bad for him. Just a month ago he was so arrogant he thought he could speak in Germany at Branderburg Gate.

Posted by: JA | September 8, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm

LMAO, “Barack the bomb thrower or Barack the man running for POTUS”. Free Republic will have so much fun with that comment, I will not need a comedy club for a month.
When I showed my wife, she said Barack must be a GOP plant to keep Hillary from winning the Presidency. I told her that Karl Rove is a genius. LOL

Posted by: Captain | September 8, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm

ludwig
Obama has more knowledge on foreign policy because he has shown us with the thousand or so questions he has been thrown and answered in detail and adeptly with several follow ups
Mccain on his second one even on iraq…
goes for the joke…the anger…or drum roll “POW”
Palin has shown us…uh…nothing!
and mccain screws up anything outside the word surge…
freakin he screws up on Iraq…hios so called specialty…oy.

Posted by: dl | September 8, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm

Palin is another example of McCain’s dangerous judgement. He thought Iraq was going to be easy. He wants surge troops to be in Iraq for 50 years AND he opposed school credit to keep ‘em holed up doing his sh!t work. He blew that whole Georgia bit by acting like a tard cowboy. And now this bleeding crack, hillbilly, bible humping, moose frau?

Posted by: Virginia Vet | September 8, 2008, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm

Somehow Obama, the “constitutional law professor”, professes that we instinctively know the difference between a suspected terrorist and an innocent citizen.
The problem IS that virtually ALL terrorists will claim innocence and demand protection of the law. That is part of the terrorist training manual.
Obama is way off base in this issue.

Posted by: William | September 8, 2008, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm

It’s indisputable that Palin killed the “bridge to nowhere.” Even the Alaska democrat party gives her the credit. Why is Obama lying?

Posted by: Capitalist Infidel | September 8, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm

I’m not going to be lectured by Barack Obama on shameless behavior. Perhaps that makes me a bitter person as he would say…

Posted by: Jeffrey | September 8, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm

The personal lives of Palin/Obama are not as important as their plans for our economy. The economic news this week was terrible. We’ve lost even more jobs to foreign-based manufacturers, have the highest unemployment in six years, and just increased our deficit to an astronomical number I can’t even comput because of this socialistic take-over of Freddie Mac/Fannie Mae. Let’s put our differences aside on the social issues and fix the economy first. After that, we can tackle those values questions. My money is not with John McCain as the change agent to pull us out of this financial mess. He has voted with Bush- the person I blame for this economic catastrophe- 90% of the time. His record, and plans, show that he will be more of the same and that will only hit our pocketbooks even harder- if that is possible.

Posted by: Karen | September 8, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm

Ludwig
Check your facts, these are EMPLOYEES of these companies if you are interested in the truth just check FEC reports filed by the campaign.

Posted by: NavyMom | September 8, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm

Its’ looking like McCain/Palin will have this wrapped up very soon, sooner then anyone thought..

Posted by: Richard | September 8, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm

Ynot….
Where did you hear those rumors?

Posted by: michael Taff | September 8, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm

It pleases me that the trolls here got nothing more than Ayers to try and distract people from seeing the obvious: the Bush/McCain Republicans have screwed up this country and it will take a Democrat to fix it (like usual). I know you wingnuts are scared…after all, your party is in tatters and will be completely out of power in DC in but a few short months. The ironic thing that even you will benefit from the Obama administration, with a stronger economy, more educational opportunities, more secure civil liberties, an effective foreign policy, affordable health care, millions of new green jobs, and an upgraded infrastructure. Oh, you’ll still complain, even as you benefit, but that’s what you folk have always done.

Posted by: Ash | September 8, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm

Do people actually buy ‘change in Washington’ message comming fom McCain campaign? Maybe I’m crazy, but where exactly was McCain employed last 20+ years??? And, again I may be wrong, was it not his party that had both congress and presidency for 6 out of last 8 years? Change…maverick…so I voted with the president 95% of the time, but i sure want to “drain that Washington swamp”. I mean, people actually beleive this????

Posted by: AJ | September 8, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm

Reminds me of the commercial “never let them see you sweat”. Obama is cracking up over a female stealing his thunder.
The Obama campaign has been thrown off thier game plan entirely. They were caught unprepared. Bring on the debates

Posted by: geevill | September 8, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm

Obama has Senate experience, working on national issues. He also has been in presidential race against Hillary of all people, where he has crafted the best assembly of advisors and talent ever for presidential race and has honed the most thought out, nuanced policies on everything national and internationl. McCain griped a lot, but every time he pulls out his Vetoin’ Pen, Obama should pull out his Blackberry and point out that as a real reformer he put all the earmarks on the internet. Perhaps if Cindy’s carpal tunner isn’t too bad she can google it for him. And Palin? She eats a mean moose, that deserves a spot on the ticket.
Obama = REAL CHANGE
Biden = MALE HILLARY
MCCain = 0.9 BUSH
Palin = Bushette

Posted by: FiFo Feefins | September 8, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm

************************************
Barry Soetoro for president.
************************************
Do any Obama supporters really know what they are supporting, or is it really this huge anti Bush thing honesty?
Honest, congress had done the least to help this country, yet Bush is 100% to blame? Where is the sense.. Honest question?
Personally both parties are 100% equal for the failures. This one finger thing is why McCain will win. To many people are stepping back, finding the holes in Obama, and getting tired of all this BS when congress keeps making headlines for nothingness.

Posted by: matt | September 8, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm

where are the answers?
where are the changes?
where are the detailed discussions from weither of the Mccain palin ticket on anything to get us out of ANY mess
drill dril drill
is not an energy policy…
it is a cheer…for the dumb.
and picking a woman for your VP who does not put science and facts over her faith…
is not answering what changes you are going to do to solve the mortgage crisis…
the economy bologne (and continuing an already failing tax policy as a way to get us out of this is not a change OR an answer)
getting help from our allies again who hate the idea of America being stupid enough to fall for this Palin thing… (a candidate who has avbsolutely no grasp or knowledge on a single issue we are facing).
dealing with al qaeda who now that we caused a wasps nest to be bashed around in Iraq in the middle east has migrated all over the world and grown bigger and angrier…
an ignored and taunted (because that is exactly what many will call the President of Georgia’s actions right or wrong before Russia invaded and after people like Jow Biden were telling the Georgian President to stop hie behavior…a President who was emboldened by his lobbyist, Scheuneman who is Mccain’s lead foreign policy adviiser now)
what about healthcare…what change are you planning Mccain palin? nothing…oh okay.
where are the answers where are the changes that they have been chanting for three days now…
blowing smoke and bologne just like Palin’s candidacy as someone who wasn’t a rove tactic just like the last 8 years throwing the country under the bus for political gain)
where are the answers, plans, changes that are going to help us?

Posted by: dl | September 8, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm

I am a former Hillary supporter and God fearing woman. No way will I vote for Palin. She loves the fetus alright, but hates the woman.

Posted by: Marce, MO | September 8, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm

dl, please note that earmarks are sent to states WITHOUT the approval or disproval of local officials. They are sent by state congressional (FEDERAL) reps. Yes, Palin did keep the money (congress sent half of what was earmarked) since it was coming anyway and used it for statewide transportation projects. If you read about the campaign for governor in 2006, Palin talks about a link to Ketchikan, not a bridge. As usual these issues are complex, but as gov. she did not build the bridge and spent the money where it was needed on other infrastructure projects.

Posted by: Jack | September 8, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm

…a little story of girl named Sarah…found a way
to secure the economics of Alaskans and how we all
paid for it…
Let’s see here “I stood up to the big oil
companies”…Impress upon yourself the stupidity of
that statement and let’s go to economics 101
class…
Sarah Palin got the oil companies to pay more money
to Alaskan citizens from their oil resource
profits…
Okay…that means that those “extra fees” will have
to be made up so the revenues of the oil companies
do not go down…this is the failings of Sarah.
Do we see what happened here..Sarah Palin made it
“legal” for the oil companies to raise the cost of
oil for every American. The cost for you and me in
the lower 48 States and Hawaii She got a boost to
the Citizens of Alaskans to get elected but those
cost were passed down to us….Are we feeling lied
to. Are we feeling screwed yet?
Increased fees charged by the State of Alaska to
the oil companies does not change the profit
margins of the oil companies…those cost get
passed along to the consumer…YOU and ME..
The Alaskans get $12,200 per citizen per year and
we get to pay that increase
SHE GOT ELECTED GOVERNOR ON EVERYONES HIGHER
GASOLINE PRICES!!!…
For months I’ve been trying to figure how the cost
of oil could go up and up this last year and a
half…well who has been governor of Alaska for 18
months.
First we figured out that speculators on Wall
Street were part to blame but now it is appears
that because Alaskans are getting higher state
revenues for every barrel of oil pumped out of
Alaska because Sarah Palin stood up to the oil
companies…well …that’s right those increased
cost everyone has been paying for.
Don’t let the lies and screwing continue…stand up
to fake and phony politicians like John McCain and
Sarah Palin…Let’s put and end to the free
loaders…they just cost everyone to much…
If it was fair we would all be Alaskans..but I
don’t think that’s going to happen…
Sarah Palin has a whole lot of explaining to do
before she will ever get my vote…
John McCain said he never was good at
economics..well here’s that proof…

Posted by: ecg3817 | September 8, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm

Somebody has to ask the question, if Obama has raised and spent millions and millions of dollars, how has McCain managed to catch up to him in the polls. Why can’t Obama close the deal? Isn’t it fair to say that he’s literally wasted millions of dollars campaigning so far? Why would we want a guy like that in charge? Trust me, I don’t like John McCain one bit. But there is a reality here that we Democrats need to own up to.

Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | September 8, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm

Honest, congress had done the least to help this country, yet Bush is 100% to blame? Where is the sense.. Honest question?
**************************************
Which congress, the republican one?
They left all this mess its gonna take a while to clean up, and blame W for setting us back some trillions, courtesy war with Iraq.

Posted by: Don | September 8, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm

“Obama also mocked the new TV ad put out by the McCain campaign claiming that Palin ‘stopped the Bridge to Nowhere.’
“I gotta admit these folks are shameless,” Obama said, “because the record is indisputable,” he said, describing how Palin had originally supported the project.
“I wouldn’t do that,” Obama said.
Yeah, sure – then why did you and Biden each actually vote *for* the wasteful bridge in the US Senate?
Very few Americans are as stupid as he thinks…

Posted by: Pat | September 8, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm

Personally both parties are 100% equal for the failures. This one finger thing is why McCain will win. To many people are stepping back, finding the holes in Obama, and getting tired of all this BS when congress keeps making headlines for nothingness.
~~~ REMOVE BUSH AND DON”T VOTE IN 0.9BUSH AND BUSHETTE !!!
Rethugs have had congress for 14 of last 16 years and POTUS for 8 .. they will eventually kill you, don’t vote for them

Posted by: Mastero | September 8, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm

Where oh where has Michelle gone? Oh where oh where can she be?

Posted by: Kevin | September 8, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm

let’s hear all about McCain’s health care program. Ohhh he doesn’t have one!
let’s hear all about McCain’s solution to unemployment. Ohhh he has no solution.
Gee, sounds like Bush to me!

Posted by: Gus | September 8, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm

Concerned in OH,
Hill wont go for that because she is looking forward to 2012…..she is planning on NObama losing.

Posted by: michael Taff | September 8, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm

Matt
you obviously aren’t listening for especially the past 2 days and here in might lie the problem
Obama and Biden were all over the place talking about plans and changes…
McCain and Palin…nothing
and as far as the congress goes…you are right… but like the war… it was a repuvblican congress that deregulated the banking sector …and created the enron loophole, and gave the country a tax credit while sending the world into a war…that would cost our children much of their future…
it is a lot harder to put those crate and barrel plates back together than it was to just handle them better.

Posted by: dl | September 8, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm

Obama is an empty suit reading Jimmy Carter speeches. There is no substance or follow through on anything.

Posted by: Jeex | September 8, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm

Why is it that McCain had 4 months to shore up his base while Obama v Hillary was going on? And he has to bring in Bushette now? McToast

Posted by: I smell McToast | September 8, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm

According to Yahoo News Davis said Palin has not been treated fairly by the media so far. “Why would we want to throw Sarah Palin into a cycle of piranhas called the news media.”
Now Schmit, Rove and Davis have successfully in advertising terms branded the media as Piranhas who have sharp teeth and are aggressive with a appetite. This is what they were thinking – Piranhas! If you pick up any paper in the heartland of America there is a reference to this in one form or anther.
I thought of a quick response to this – Democrat’s courting voters Who love Nature with the following videos – Trained Goldfish Performs Amazing Tricks! and Dolphin play bubble rings and Killer Whale and Trainer.
Ok lets not kid ourselves, The Republican attack machine is charging right now, feeling confident with a three point lead over Obama/Biden. Can a Gold Fish, Dolphin and Orca Whale Trainer extraodinaire, John Hargrove take them on and save America this election cycle? Do you think my quick response will work?
Now for Habeas Corpus – lets see how about a General Colin Powell endorsement for Obama? If we can’t have General Colin Powell’s endorsement then lets court the General’s fans. I’m working on this concept in a little storage room where I parked my computer. My goal is to clone Winston Churchill!
Barack Obama is a distance cousin of Sir Winston Churchill. I love Churchill’s great speech – “We shall fight them on the beach” Clone now Human Sir Winston Churchill will then endorse Obama/Biden. The World will be safe. It runs in the family. Of course this Winston will adapt to the times.

Posted by: Cooday | September 8, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm

Sounds like Obama-Biden campaign’s strong-arm tactics to force people to jump on the band wagon have backfired.
Sounds like fear – what’s wrong, Barack, you have a problem because finally, finally people are questioning you outright? Sorry, that’s life and that’s politics.

Posted by: Traci | September 8, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm

McCain/Palin are Mavericks!
Obama/Biden are hopey and dopey.
“these people” sounds like Rev Wright and his attacks on America.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 8, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm

Any uneducated person who says Obama is a socialist HAS NO IDEA WHAT SOCIALISM IS!
Shauna – you are correct. He’s much more aligned with Marxism. Now where did you get your degree?

Posted by: Greg | September 8, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm

Senator Nobama NEVER gives a straight answer to a question. NEVER!

Posted by: veronica10 | September 8, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm

What does he mean “these folks” and “these people”? THAT’S RACIST!! …uh, I’m mean they’re racist…. uh, whatever, vote Obama or you must be racist.

Posted by: Rich | September 8, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm

I have just read through most of the posts above and must say…. your politics is so bogged down in personal smears on two men who are seeking the best for your country (and mine by poor association). The politics of America is something that I would not like to see exported anywhere in the globe.
I note the other interesting fact is that your claim freedom of speech, liberty and justice and do nothing to practice any of it…
I feel really sad for your society.

Posted by: Matt from Oz | September 8, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm

Obama sounds like he is unhinged.
He is ranting, rambling and WRONG.
Why would anyone vote for this guy?

Posted by: philly | September 8, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm

Republicans are just protecting themselves. Go ahead and vote for McCain you non-business having, getting trickled on, tax paying fools. The world is not divided into black, white, brown or yellow; it is divided into haves and have-nots. The best way to keep the have-nots poor, it to keep them worried about other racial groups. Have fun being scared.

Posted by: El Grande | September 8, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm

Can’t wait until Nov when Obama is elected President. Maybe then McCain can finally stop with the POW stories that are more than 30 years old. Someone needs to tell him thanks for your service but you are now relieved of duty. Palin can go back to her kooky church which is associated with the freaks featured in the “Jesus Camp” documentary, who use child abuse techniques to recruit kids into the Christian version of Muslim fundamentalists.

Posted by: New Yorker for Obama | September 8, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm

To dl:
You are completely missing the point. I’m looking for a candidate strong enough to take the high road.
One having the fortitude that made this country what it is (maybe was at this point).
Whether the other side is lying or not, calling them liars is second class and shows no character. I want a grownup in the most important job in the world. Calling other people liars is not that person.

Posted by: steve | September 8, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm

Of course McCain and Palin have been absent lately, the convention just ended. Obama and Biden did the same thing after their convention. Talk about grasping for straws. I suppose you also think that Palin should immediately be thrown to the biased media who will ask absurd questions like, “What do you think of the current affairs in Mauritania?”

Posted by: BuckeyeVet | September 8, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm

Interesting how the insults and childish assaults fly when all of a sudden you’re loosing!

Posted by: Tom | September 8, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm

While I’m somewhat skeptical that McCain will do what he promises, I’m scared to death that Obama will! If he is elected, our only hope will be his total lack of leadership. 134 times, he voted “present” because it was just too difficult for him to make a decision! Is that who you want sitting in the hot seat? My campaign slogan for this election will be “McCain: The Lesser of Two Evils”.

Posted by: Mark D | September 8, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm

We can’t afford Robin Hood Obama!!
If he wants to give to the poor let him and RICH SOCIALIST friends donate (redistribute their wealth) to whatever cause or income level they choose.
Just don’t STEAL my hard earned money!!

Posted by: Lee | September 8, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm

Hey dl,
“Bums” & “scummy ethics” pretty well sums up Democratic politics, especially when you’re talking about Chicago!
I don’t think you want to start throwing rocks when your group is so full of quality characters….
Bill Ayers…oh he’s just a neighbor…oh, and I forgot to mention we served on a Board together where we squandered $43 million dollars on socialist educational schemes.
Rezko…
Saul Alinksy…
Do you really want to play that hand, dl?
Let’s see Sarah Palin managed to go after multiple politicians, in her own party, for questionable dealings. She got the Sr. Senator in her state in the cross hairs (like that hunting analogy) for questionable dealings.
I don’t think she ever voted “present” once, let alone 130 times.
And she’s got “real” executive experience…not 143 days in the Senate.
You libs hate a woman of accomplishment when she’s conservative.
Did anyone ever ask Hillary if she felt like she was being a “good mother” because she was a lawyer and had a child? Did anybody question why Biden, with young children, stayed as a Senator after his first’s wife’s death?
I didn’t think so!
Obama has had so many positions on so many issues that he could conduct the Presidential debate with himself and still lose!

Posted by: Proud Conservative! | September 8, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm

westcoastlighty
the rove tactics that got an inept and ignorant of the issues candidate like
Bush elected…it is a pwerful slimey hide and seek campaign and tactics…
Gore lost, Kerry lost…
both with great smart credentials…better than Bush’s by far… and Woodwards book is literally recording and reporting now…that Bush wasn’t savvy enough to answer questions because he was ill informed …because he has Bush saying he didn’t go to the war meetings…because he had a lot to do…what meetings did he go to
this was going to be the battle no matter who was the candidate…Bush Cheney and the gang are good at running…
and barack has shown…he’s the best we got at running… sorry he beat a huge legacy in the primary…
this Mccain campaign is being run on the same tactics and same shoulders of the people who hid wmd and fooled a nation into a war…
who hid the chronyism and failures of katrina
who hid meetings on energy behind closed doors before andd after we went to war…
whocalled the press unpatriotic and “liberal” when they tried to call them on it…
who hid judicial appointments
who his smear campaigns from the VP’s office…
who …
I mean the list goes on…
this was always going to cvome down to a literal battle of good vs. evil
and yes whether you think Bush is evil or cheney is evil or rove is evil or not…
what they did over the past 8 years with all the cover ups and secrecy (That Mccain is clearly showing he will be comfortable continuing)
was and is evil.
and as hokey as it sounds…
good, is gonna win.
throw the bums out.

Posted by: dl | September 8, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm

I think Clinton summed it up the best “ Who do you trust??? A Man that promises everything but can deliver nothing. Or someone who you agree with on only half of the issues but can deliver on everything.
Vote McCain/Palin and remember…
Obama is an empty suit reading Jimmy Carter Speeches (Obama – Kilpatrick)

Posted by: jeex | September 8, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm

Obama and Biden’s only plans for change is to take more money from those who have actually earned it and give it to people who have not. I guess Obama wants to make things “fair”.
Listening to his convention acceptance speech was a re-run of tired old Democrat talking points. Everyone is a victim that needs to be helped by Uncle Sam.
Obama likes to pretend he is the new JFK. He is just the opposite. JFK was strong on defense. JFK asked us to do for our country — Obama wants our country to do everything for us. JFK would not recognize today’s Democrat Party.

Posted by: Daisy21 | September 8, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm

These people…!!!???
You mean the ones who cling to guns, religion and distrust of immigrants?
Stick to a teleprompter, Sen Obama.
And… OMG… someone actually thinks you’re perfect… wow. Your followers scare me more than you do.

Posted by: Diamond Lou | September 8, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm

I think Clinton summed it up the best “ Who do you trust??? A Man that promises everything but can deliver nothing. Or someone who you agree with on only half of the issues but can deliver on everything.
Vote McCain/Palin and remember…
Obama is an empty suit reading Jimmy Carter Speeches (Obama – Kilpatrick)

Posted by: Yikes | September 8, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm

“1. Iraq war (6 years and 4 trillion dollars later)
2. Foreclosures
3. Gas Prices
4. Health Care Crisis
5. Joblessness
6. Bear Stearns, Indymac,Fannie Mae , Freddie Mac failed
7. Katrina mismanagement
8. Enron
9. Halliburton
10. Abu Graib
11. Osama still alive
12. Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Russia/Georgia mess
13. Global Warming
14. Price of food up
15. Deficit 9.6 trillion
16. Middle Class shrinking, poverty rate increasing
17. The economic gap between the poor and the rich widened significantly”
Every item you list is directly tied to the failed policies of the Clinton/Gore presidency. Sorry to inform you of this, I know it hurts, but the truth always does. It’s 10 years before we see the benefits/detriments of a presidency and what we have now is the result of your precious Clinton years. Just like the “glory period” during his presidency that he tried to take responsability for was the result of the Reagan years. Facts are facts.

Posted by: Willow | September 8, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm

Tough guys like Sarah Palin miss the point regarding Habeas Corpus. They think it’s being soft, but the reality is, if you’re holding the wrong person, you need to know that, because the REAL criminal is still at large! Wouldn’t she want to know that?
That’s why we have due process. Sarah Palin wouldn’t keep us safe because she’d just lock people up and think she’d solved case!

Posted by: Carol | September 8, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm

All you people lying in these comments, have you never heard of karma? How about what goes around comes around…
Jake is anyone at ABC looking into the Annenberg Challenge?

Posted by: 30yrdem-not any more | September 8, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm

I just can not wait for the debates
to see who finished first in his class (Obama) and who finished fifth from the bottom of his class (McCain).

Posted by: Jay | September 8, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm

The RNC needs to run an ad exposing the group that Obama was a “community organizer” for. I believe it was the corrupt ACORN group that he was working for. Just curious, why is it that these “community organizing” groups are only interested in registering potential Democrat voters,, and why has ACORN been charged with turning in so many fraudulent registration forms? Could it be that Democrats are once again counting on vote fraud to try to steal elections?

Posted by: Daisy21 | September 8, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm

I know Obama has been very busy and cannot write all of his speeches but he really needs to stop having Michelle write them. She’s the bomb!

Posted by: Hank | September 8, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm

Suave, unruffled, unflappable.
The entire world is in an uproar – Republicans are lying like there’s no God, Democrats are panicking and freaking out – and Obama is calm, smiling, and strong; patiently laying out his vision, his plan, his ideas.
He is amazing. And he makes everyone opposing him look small and petty. I can not WAIT to see him take the oath of office. I simply can not wait.
:o)

Posted by: Amy | September 8, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm

Barack, GO GET THEM!

Posted by: tchanta | September 8, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm

McCain/Palin are ahead in the polls, and Teleprompter Guy is panicking.
Michelle Obama is not proud of her country again. ‘America is a downright mean country!’

Posted by: Rick | September 8, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm

I think Clinton summed it up the best “ Who do you trust??? A Man that promises everything but can deliver nothing (Obama). Or someone who you agree with on only half of the issues but can deliver on everything. This is coming from your own people (Democrats).
Vote McCain/Palin and remember…
Obama is an empty suit reading Jimmy Carter Speeches (Obama – Kilpatrick)

Posted by: Yikes | September 8, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm

“He is amazing. And he makes everyone opposing him look small and petty. I can not WAIT to see him take the oath of office. I simply can not wait.”
You will be waiting at least 4 more years friend. Sorry.

Posted by: Will | September 8, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm

Never before had the Democrats a worse
ticket than the current one. And that
includes Jimmy Carter, who is proof that
peanuts are dangerous to your brain.

Posted by: Always right | September 8, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm

Obama has talked about 57 states, about abortion being “above his Pay Scale”, That the surge was wrong and the war is lost and then he claims that McCain and Palin are liars when the record is pretty clear that they both have been reformers. All he has been is “Present”. Oh I forgot that is the way people in Chicago operate. His ship is sinking and he does not have a clue.

Posted by: Wiley | September 8, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm

30yrdem-not any more
there are a lot of people lying on here but it ain’t the dems…
and you were never a dem if you would vote for a ticket with Palin on it…
hawk
anti belief in man made global warming
faith over fact
women’s equality out the window
anti stem cell
anti choice
anti anything the clintons the gores …even some of what the old Mccain use to stand for…
so no if you can vote for that ther is no way you were a democrat… unless you had a stroke and a complete ethics reordering on the future of the world.

Posted by: dl | September 8, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm

When the day comes that a fascist (corporate) police-state needs to be thrown down, just as the chains of British tyranny needed to be forceful removed, because the rightful change couldnt be recognized by peaceful means. On that day I hope those who fight for freedom arent considered terrorists…

Posted by: Jo | September 8, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm

Obama finished 75th out of 86 in his Law School class. I guess the duh’s and umms between arguments didn’t win him extra credit points? He has accomplished NOTHING! No legislation, no new ideas. Socialistic rhetoric can get you only so far. I believe in personal responsibility, small government and lower taxes..and The Bill of Rights!!!

Posted by: keepthechange | September 8, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm

I think Obama is the greatest! He dresses so nice, his smile is infectious, always wearing beautiful shirts – that’s MY man for President.

Posted by: Lucy | September 8, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm

Why doesn’t Obama go after McCain’s quick to take action. There’s video out there with McCain openly admitting he can sometimes make a decision too quickly, later to find out it was a mistake. Don’t know where I saw it. Obama said in his speech if McCain wanted a debate on temperment bring it on. McCain is known to have a short fuse. Is that someone you want taking that 3 am call?

Posted by: deb in oregon | September 8, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm

Daisy, you make a good point. Obama is starting to sound shrill.

Posted by: Connie | September 8, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm

Obama = Jimmy Carter II

Posted by: Ryan | September 8, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm

Elda Nayeli Puentes
Obamas campaign lists and lists of plans that change the sinking road we are on…
Mccain and Palin a bunch of hype about change…
none.
No answers no change.
Name one.

Posted by: dl | September 8, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm

I think Clinton summed it up the best “ Who do you trust??? A Man that promises everything but can deliver nothing. Or someone who you agree with on only half of the issues but can deliver on everything.
Vote McCain/Palin and remember…
Obama is an empty suit reading Jimmy Carter Speeches (Obama – Kilpatrick)

Posted by: Yikes | September 8, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm

And my message to Obama is;
Dear Senator Obama:
I was enthusiastically impressed with you when I heard you at the 2004 Democratic convention. I thought to myself that one day you might be president. Obviously you thought so too.
My problem is that you let your overwhelming desire to be the first black President overide your good sense. You became more obsessed with your personal potential legacy than with the good of this country.
Now, I know that everyone who runs for President must have an ego. However, in your case, you allowed your ego to actually destroy friends and enemies alike.
Instead of being the ideal President to heal racial division, the county is now more racially divided than in decades. Instead of embracing the cause of women, which was the most significant group of your base, you went out of your way to demean and disparage them. You also helped set back feminists by decades.
Because of this, we now have historic Democrats flocking to the GOP.
Senator, you could have had it all. All you had to do was have a little patience. Had you “allowed” Hillary to become President, and thus attain the position she deserves, you could have had the VP slot which would have positioned you perfectly for the Presidential run in 2016. We would then have had the first woman and the first AA Presidents in our history. A monumentous milestone. Not to mention 16 years of Democratic rule.
But you couldn’t wait. And all of America will be suffering the consequences.
Well, Senator, the tide is turning. In words you can understand: The chickens are coming home to roost.
And the cluck stops here.

Posted by: HP Boston | September 8, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm

Seriously, if people would vote on the issues and not race, it would be a landslide by OBAMA. Our country is at the lowest that it has been in a long time. For the past EIGHT years, the economy has gone down at a steady rate, WHY would anyone want more of the same?? Vote for change, because seriously, I don’t think that it can get any worst. But if you stick with the same ol, same ol, what can you expect?? Obama and his wife have every right to speak out against Palin, McCain and anyone else who’s said ill stuff towards/about them. The time has come to stand up and vote for what matters most. The Future of America.

Posted by: danja | September 8, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm

danja,
You summed it all up !!! Fantastic Post !!!!

Posted by: Yikes | September 8, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm

Obama lost the election already. Maybe he can help his buddy Tony Rezko with his appeal now.

Posted by: Jody | September 8, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm

Obama is such an empty suit and he knows it. My two favorite recent examples are 1.) when he said he was ‘thinking’ about joining the military and 2.) that his experience running for president makes him qualified to be president. Priceless!

Posted by: FLvoter | September 8, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm

This time will shape up up exactly like 2004. Kerry pretty much did himself in back then and ZEROBAMA is twice as bad.
I love my non-lib friends because they do not whine.

Posted by: Breauxman | September 8, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm

as a liberal, i got to say thank god for my blogs. this is just so juvenile. even the conservative blogs, while lightweight, at least show a little thought by their authors.
you kids stop throwing food, play nice, and i’m going back to the adult table.

Posted by: ignorance is bliss | September 8, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm

think Clinton summed it up the best “ Who do you trust??? A Man that promises everything but can deliver nothing. Or someone who you agree with on only half of the issues but can deliver on everything.
Vote McCain/Palin and remember…
Obama is an empty suit reading Jimmy Carter Speeches (Obama – Kilpatrick)

Posted by: Yikes | September 8, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm

HP Boston
Obama is still winning by a large amount considering the last few elections.
don’t be fooled by daily polls or one national after the rnc…
Obama state by state still shows he is gaining where it counts…
Mccain would have to run the table of all possibilities.
so this is a lot of bologne…especially as we see more and mroe about his judgement in picking a vp …for an election not for leading.

Posted by: dl | September 8, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm

I loved Barack Obama’s remarks. Truth told, without haebeas corpus, we’re wasting our time chasing after a lot of people who aren’t terrorits. Look at Abu Ghraib. According to the Red Cross, about 90% of the prisoners of Abu Ghraib had nothing to do with terrorism. (Some prioners were criminals – but NOT terrorists.
So we were torturing a lot of people to get information that they couldn’t give us. Or some times they gave us phony information while real terrorists were mudering our troops.
The Constitution is not only an ideal, but a darn smart document. It saves the taxpayers time and money. Thank you, Obama, for reminding us.
As for Sarah Palin,some one who disses the basic premises of the Constitution has no business running for any thing, not even dog catcher of Wasilla.

Posted by: William Joseph Miller | September 8, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm

“I think Clinton summed it up the best “ Who do you trust??? A Man that promises everything but can deliver nothing. Or someone who you agree with on only half of the issues but can deliver on everything.”
What if the guy you disagree with doesn’t actually promise anything? McCain is all hype and no specifics on his website. Obama’s got policy on his. Obama speaks policy like at the DNC. The RNC spent 99% f the convention in an orgy of the absolute worst neo-con/neo-lib/same ol’ same ol’ wanking (community organizers, are you kidding me?), and then in the last 5 minutes McCain mentions that, oh yeah, something’s going to change.

Posted by: johnny | September 8, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm

Hey, all you soldiers on the battlefield, all you guys looking down from those predator drones, you may THINK the guy with the AK 47 was the guy who shot your buddy but you COULD be wrong! Or the guy you captured with a trunk load of missiles and bombs in his car didn’t REALLY mean it when he was working for Al Qaida for 5 years. After all, he’s just a poor cab driver who didn’t have a clue what he was doing.
Capture him, bring him to the US, get him an attorney and let’s see if he REALLY was the guy who shot your friend. After all he needs same habeus corpus rights ALL Americans have!!!!

Posted by: Dave in lv | September 8, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm

Besides, I always thought that “Shameless” was a song written by Billy Joel and made popular by Garth Brooks???? LOL!

Posted by: KFED | September 8, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm

The McCain campaign has stolen:
* Bush’s failed policies
* American flags from the Obama campaign
* Change message from the Obama campaign
* Songs
McCain is more of the same. Vote Obama.

Posted by: BadMcCain | September 8, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm

Yikes America trusts the team that is not saying change…
with no changes.
It is about peoples lives sucking more and more…and Mccain and the bush cheney team and policies (because that is the dact they are the same policies)
will not get us off this road.

Posted by: dl | September 8, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm

The democrats do not deserve to win. It’s been 8 years of pure hatred for Bush starting from the minute he was elected, and that’s before 911 and Irag. The democrats wished total failure on Bush even before he took office. That’s some deserving party. Obama is just a twenty years with Reverend Wright-hatred, posture- politician, promoting more hatred with his manipulative statements, and given all benefit because he’s half black. What a joke. All these haters putting their hopes behind this guy because party comes before country. Pathetic, self-conscious, self-righteous,elite hate-mongers. Obama is an Axelrod- Chicago-thug politician in sheep’s clothing. Sarah Palin is so fresh in comparison. The democrats deserve to lose because they put hatred and party before country and solving problems. How will they howl if they lose again!

Posted by: B | September 8, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm

Obama and Biden both voted for the bridge to nowhere, and now are accusing Palin of supporting something that they voted for.
Talk about Shameless.
This former Hillary supporter is voting for Sarah!

Posted by: Hillaryvoter4McCain | September 8, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm

Maybe if he had picked Hillary—even though–she should have been at the top, he wouldn’t find his star power fizzling out faster than a dud fireworks. He never had substance, only hype, and now that he is out-hyped, he’s got nothing.

Posted by: jo chgo | September 8, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm

Senator Stevens said, “Sarah Palin never supported the ‘bridge to nowhere!’”

Posted by: Archarito | September 8, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm

Home failures, OIl price hike, employment rate hike, banking problems ,etc all started when Dems took over congress. ( check the data) , The president signs bills, congress writes. We need to throw all the dems out. We need to adhere to low taxes, cut the budget .

Posted by: tim | September 8, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm

Good play Willow. Blaming Clinton and Gore for the trouble that 2 minutes of research proves was due to policies of the Bush admin. That’s kinda like the republicans crazy belief that “reaganomics” didn’t work until Clinton term achieved the budget surplus. At least you are consistent about SOMETHING. Blaming someone else for the problems you create. Game on!

Posted by: landlocked | September 8, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm

Hey, Obama-
“”You can’t just make stuff up, you can’t just reinvent yourself,”
Obama in Flint Michigan
Obama does it every other day.

Posted by: Lulu Jones | September 8, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm

Hillaryvoter4McCain
how did Hillary vote on the bridge
it’s not only that she was for the bridge and then didn’t go forward because congress wouldn’t agree to a larger some for the bridge to pay for it all…
it’s that she then kept the money
will sarah Palin say all those earmarks that are paying for all those other things in Alaska…be revoked and stopped after she takes office
like the other bridge that costs twice as much with earmarks and almost as much controversy?
yeah bet you didn’t know there was another bridge…
yeah she didn’t oppose that one either.

Posted by: dl | September 8, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm

I can understand the comments on both sides, but Obama is coming up short in my neighborhood. It really isn’t that people think he is a bad guy, he isn’t, in fact he is a great American success story. What I seem to find is that most of my friends just think McCain has more experience and has a history of taking on Washington grid lock. I know others feel different, but it is almost weird how many people have said that to me. Especially many independents and democrats. The same folks who have supported Levin in the past. Take it for what you will, but Detroit Suburbs seem to be really moving to McCain.

Posted by: Michigan Blue | September 8, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm

It is amazing that so many have to resort to pathetic mud slinging and bald faced lies rather than simple reasoning and honest debate.
Republican rule is irresponsible by nature, they cut taxes and spend like crazy on things that do not help the economy in the long run. This is a fact, not an opinion, try reviewing the history of the last twenty years and you will see that. Weapons programs that are not necessary or do not work are just pork spending gone wild. Investment by govt on scientific research and infrastructure actually improves the economy in the long run.
Republicans cut taxes forcing someone to raise them later to pay off their debt. McCain’s corporate tax cuts will blow a hole in the US economy even larger than that created by Bush.
The responsible choice is to vote Obama/Biden to try and clean up the policy disasters of the last eight years. Good luck to those of you who refuse to let reality beat your pathetic ideologies.

Posted by: JT | September 8, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm

I have a question…
Can anyone tell me what is so good about the prospect of moving the country in a progressive direction?
Honestly, don’t spout off a bunch of talking points as your answer. Tell me exactly what you mean when you say you want a progressive agenda for our country.
You won’t change my mind, I’ll be up front about that, I just want an honest answer to my question. So everyone can know exactly what you really stand for in this political season. For that matter, what you personally stand for, if you will just answer the question.
I’m for conservative/traditional values. I believe the best course for this country is strong defense, leadership of moral values based in Christianity, lower taxes, smaller government, personal responsibility, giving a hand up rather than a hand out, that individuals ought be self-sufficient and finally, I believe each and every one of us is accountable to God.
I just don’t understand progressive to mean anything I believe. As example, progress in the fields of medicine or science make perfect sense. Progress in sociology can never happen since there will always be someone yelling loud for something.
The best way I can explain progressive as I understand would be… comedy. Think of your favorite comedian or comedienne. After watching their performance has it ever occured to you that their act always seems to digress to just plain raunchy.
That is how I understand progressive to ultimately lead any nation. This isn’t an attack, it is just the way I understand and can articulate the argument.

Posted by: Doug | September 8, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm

“You People” are hilarious!!!
“Obama reinvents himself every other day,” you whine. Yet big mac is who has changed his message 3+ times and now has had to hijack the Democrat nominee platform to try another “hail mary” at getting some attention.
ROFL!!!! Seriously you people make me laugh every time!! It’s a good thing that factual info isn’t poisonous.

Posted by: landlocked | September 8, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm

Well to the Hillary supporters, if you are now voting for Mrs. Palin, good for you. Palin will enforce a non abortion platform in America. As a Hillary supporter myself, she doesn’t represent me.

Posted by: toterm | September 8, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm

I’m confused.
Obama said his position on this “has always been clear. It has always been clear. If you’ve got a terrorist, take ‘em out. Take ‘em out. Anybody who was involved in 9/11 –- take ‘em out.”
But, the former constitutional law professor argued, “What I have also said is this: that when you suspend habeas corpus — which has been a principle, dating before even our country, it’s the foundation of Anglo-American law — which says, very simply, if the government grabs you, then you have the right to at least ask, ‘Why was I grabbed?’ and say, ‘Maybe you’ve got the wrong person.’
I thought “Take him out” means kill him. If you kill all those associated with 9/11, how is it you then give them habeas corpus rights?

Posted by: Dave in lv | September 8, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm

What is totally clear is that Barack Obama and Joe Biden voted in the US Senate for the “Bridge to Nowhere”
Even Ted Stevens said that Palin did not support it…in the debate tape for election she was luke warm at best. And no one disagrees that she stopped it.
Obama is a liar…and I’m not sure the MSM will be able to keep propping him up.

Posted by: Jackie | September 8, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm

I’m glad McCain picked Palen. She’s just made Obama’s and Biden’s jobs easier. The good governor has more skeletons in her closet than Ed Ghein. They just keep coming out and keep coming out….

Posted by: landlocked | September 8, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm

McCain/Palin really got inside the argumentative Obama’s head. The guy is coming unglued! He is really rattled. The last time he was this rattled, he had his campaign smear the Clintons as racists. Too bad that isn’t going to work this time. Now the low class Obama is calling his opponents outright liars. I don’t think I can remember a candidate for President directly smearing his opponent as a liar. There are many, many things Obama has lied about during this election. People like him that live in glass houses shouldn’t be throwing stones.

Posted by: OxyCon | September 8, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm

Suppose you had to choose between two Presidential candidates, one of whom had spent 20 years in Congress plus had considerable other relevant experience and the other of whom had about half a dozen years in the Illinois state legislature and 2 years in Congress. Which one do you think would make a better President? If you chose #1, congratulations, you picked James Buchanan over Abraham Lincoln

Posted by: hjpowell | September 8, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm

Richard: Please detail where SG is
wrong?

Posted by: Maria | September 8, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm

Isn’t this attack stuff something that Joe Biden is supposed to be doing? Isn’t Obama supposed to look presidential? Where’s the discipline? This is not good for the Obama campaign if the head of the ticket has to address the barbs of the opposition’s undercard.

Posted by: Chris in Cal | September 8, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm

I recently switch over as well, Obama offers nothing after you heard him a few times, and I like the idea of voting for a woman. He should have picked Hillary!

Posted by: mary | September 8, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm

hjpowell,
that is the best darn comment I have seen today. Excellent!

Posted by: El_Pajaro | September 8, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm

Palin wins hands down on belittling sarcasm. With sarcasm she would have nothing to say except her little fibs.

Posted by: riveted | September 8, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm

Maria – I guess SG is privy to information the general public doesn’t have access to. Right, if you belive those statistics you are as stupid as SG is. I never heard Obama say anything like what SG was saying. I am not naive, I am not a college student. I heard it all before, I can recognize a lie when I see it. Don’t let people fool you just because his post is overly long. Anybody can make things up and clam they are fact.

Posted by: Richard | September 8, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm

Obama made ONE BIG mistake ! He did
not pick Hillary – my vote goes to
McCain/Palin ! I know he would have had
a hard time controlling Bill and there-
fore I doubt he can deal with the big
problems that face our country.

Posted by: Marilyn | September 8, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm

Wasn’t “Maverick” a movie with Mel Gibson in the title role? Yep, Yep, 1994.
From IMDB.com: “Maverick is a gambler who would rather con someone than fight them.”
That sounds vaguely familiar doesn’t it

Posted by: landlocked | September 8, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm

It’s incredible how ignorant some of these McCain people are. All they can do is lie about Obama’s relationships with people. Obama meets someone through a community fundraiser and these fools want to make it sound like Obama is a close friend. If McCain is so great, why must you mutton heads lie all of the time?

Posted by: The Unshrub | September 8, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm

“there’s no such thing as presidential experience outside of the office itself.” The quality we ought to seek “is leadership.”
James A. Baker III
straight from the Jackass’s mouth

Posted by: hjpowell | September 8, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm

who’s governing Alaska these days?

Posted by: Denise | September 8, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm

Richard: I thought you could help me by
pointing out in detail where
SG is wrong. Instead you give me
nothing to work with. I’m not that smart
and I need help. Who can I trust here??

Posted by: Maria | September 8, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm

The policy prescriptions in John McCain’s acceptance speech tonight were nothing but retreads of the failed policies of the Bush-Cheney years:
He promised tax cuts for the rich and the corporations.
He promised “free trade” deals that hemorrhage American jobs.
He promised vouchers for people to pull their kids out of public schools.
He trashed the teachers’ unions.
He promised more deregulation of big business.
He promised more privatization of government services.
He promised judges who will curtail consumer protection, worker safety, and women’s reproductive rights.
He promised to continue the saber rattling and threats against Iran, Russia and any other country that defies U.S. hegemony.
He promised more militarization of our foreign policy.
He called for peace through war.

Posted by: hjpowell | September 8, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm

Reading through all of these posts, I was amazed at how inane the “Obama Haters” are. Heck, even my Mom, who is 87 yrs old, with only a 6th grade education, exhibits better critical thinking skills.
The problem with you “haters” is that you can’t see things as they are, you see things as YOU are.

Posted by: Roy A | September 8, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm

Seriously…. Do you think this nation is going to hand over our security, economy and wellbeing to a person who’s only achievements were the position of ” community organizer “, “election supervisor” and never took a pro or con stance on anything in the senate??? Why not reverse the positions Biden President (has experience) and Obama VP (needs the training).
More food for thought… If you are a Hillary supporter, do you think she will be up for running in 2016 if Obama is elected?
Vote McCain/Palin Folks (It’s a no brainer)

Posted by: Yikes | September 8, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm

Why exactly is that Obama believes that the constitution, an american document, applies to all the citizens of the world?
Do French citizens all have the right to petition our government?
and as for catch em first, and then see what happens. That pretty much sums up Barack’s whole candidacy. “Put me in office, and we’ll see what happens. I mean, Put me in first.”

Posted by: John in Wisconsin | September 8, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm

You are so full of hate and misinformation – the Republican party loves you. How long has it been since you’ve thought beyond a campaign slogan or a character assassination? There is a problem with Obama – he believes more in the American people than the Republicans do. They appeal to the lowest level and hope to draw it out and build on it – he believes they are smart enough and believe we can be better – I read these blogs and think – they are too brain washed by the politics to think on their own – God save us – let us hope there are enough voters out there to get us out of this cycle of hate.

Posted by: charlotte Penrod | September 8, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm

“It is amazing that so many have to resort to pathetic mud slinging and bald faced lies rather than simple reasoning and honest debate.
Republican rule is irresponsible by nature, they cut taxes and spend like crazy on things that do not help the economy in the long run. This is a fact, not an opinion, try reviewing the history of the last twenty years and you will see that…
Republicans cut taxes forcing someone to raise them later to pay off their debt. McCain’s corporate tax cuts will blow a hole in the US economy even larger than that created by Bush.”
Posted by: JT | Sep 8, 2008 10:58:23 PM
JT appears to be wrong. Over the last eight years, the economy grew 19% and tax revenues grew by 20% OVER Clinton and WITH the Bush tax cuts.
BTW the BUSH tax cuts removed the poorest 10 MILLION taxpayers from having to submit a tax return. Those 10 MILLION were paying taxes under the Clinton years.

Posted by: Dave in lv | September 8, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm

Seriously…. Do you think this nation is going to hand over our security, economy and wellbeing to a person who’s only achievements were the position of ” community organizer “, “election supervisor” and never took a pro or con stance on anything in the senate??? Why not reverse the positions Biden President (has experience) and Obama VP (needs the training).
More food for thought… If you are a Hillary supporter, do you think she will be up for running in 2016 if Obama is elected?
Vote McCain/Palin Folks (It’s a no brainer)

Posted by: Yikes | September 8, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm

Wow! What a stench! I just read through the first fifth of these comments, and felt like going outside to throw up. What a bunch of nincompoops! I really worry about our country when I read the poison put out by so many people. There is no logic to most of your words, only hate and blindness. You are not convincing the other side, only making them angry and less reasonable.
How about starting over with with an open mind and some kind words? Don’t breed hate because it comes back to bite you later.
Besides, you are supposedly all citizens of the same great nation, and working for the same good. Is that right?

Posted by: Myronhalo | September 8, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm

He inspires me! Obama/Biden 2008

Posted by: Michelle | September 8, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm

To think just 7 years ago this no good bazturd blew up the twin towers and now he is running for president! Thats it I am switching parties and running for McCain maybe then we’ll see obama in prison for his crimes!
Posted by: Dennis | Sep 8, 2008 11:02:28 PM
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My God some of you McBush-McMoose people are down right crazy!!
What kind of paint are you rednecks sniffing??

Posted by: Davis | September 8, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm

Why is that the same people who call republicans uneducated can’t wrap their minds around comparative advantage.
GRRRR, FREE TRADE BAD CUZ UNION SAY SO. GRRR.

Posted by: joe in virginia | September 8, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm

When you don’t really have a defense for the last 8 years and are promising 4 more, then you have to lie

Posted by: hjpowell | September 8, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm

Seriously…. Do you think this nation is going to hand over our security, economy and wellbeing to a person who’s only achievements were the position of ” community organizer “, “election supervisor” and never took a pro or con stance on anything in the senate??? Why not reverse the positions Biden President (has experience) and Obama VP (needs the training).
More food for thought… If you are a Hillary supporter, do you think she will be up for running in 2016 if Obama is elected?
Vote McCain/Palin Folks (It’s a no brainer)

Posted by: Yikes | September 8, 2008, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm

“If Palin has her way birth control will become illegal for anyone who isn’t married. There will be no books in the library that aren’t religous in origin. Well her religion anyway. Not to mention what’s been done to the constitution during this administration. Imagine what Palin and Grandpa Johnny will do.We’ll be living like the very people we are fighting for in Iraq. A country with no rights and our lives controlled by government.Censored and repressed.”
Yea right, just like that is the way she made Alaska and McCain Arizona. Stop whining and help your candidate to win.

Posted by: Jim | September 8, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm

How can you say Democrats give Americans more credit? Republicans actually trust people enough to believe they can live their own lives and be successful without the government telling how and when to do everything. People ARE smarter than democrats would let you believe. That is why there is such disconect between Democratic leaders (elitists) and the honorable rank and file democrats who are manipulated by being promised financial help from the government in exchange for their economic and social freedoms.

Posted by: Chris | September 8, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm

Richard: well, I guess you can not give
me any details were SG was wrong. I’m
so disappointed. Are you always hot air
and can not deliver???

Posted by: Maria | September 8, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm

Something happened last week. The Dems
are rattled. It’s obvious on the Net,
cable “news”, and the print media. I’m
not quite sure what it is, but taking
a cue from Ohbama’s appearances today
and the general tenor of his campaign
surrogates, a new wind is blowing. Up
north, they call it a Chinook.

Posted by: grizzly bare | September 8, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm

Michael Taff-
I researched your claim on google. Wow !!! Is Obama really getting served and dismissed for not being a natural citizen?
Berg vs. Obama, Civil Action No. 08-cv-4083

Posted by: Yikes | September 8, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm

These comments are absolutely hillarious. I can not imagine how these people make it through the day with all of this fear they have.

Is it the fear or lack of true belief in their candidate that drives them to make these crazy comments?

Gov. Palin is doing a two day interview with no restrictions to the questions. So what is the complaint? She will also be going on the Sunday shows following the interview. Make your judgements after you see how she does. You might even like her after you listen to her.

Posted by: Bill Key West | September 8, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm

If I hired a CEO to run my company, which were posting profits before he/she arrived – and for the last 7 years my company posted a deficit and I found out that billions in my name – I think I’d fire the guy – and all the guys he hired.
If McCain gets in, different guy – same guys running the show in the background.
Simple math, you can’t expect a different outcome if you play the game exactly the same way each time. Republican and conservative economics don’t work in a living, breathing, dynamic society. Its not socialism, its nationalism. We need government for many things – how will they fund everything if people don’t pay for it – borrow more from China. Dumb.

Posted by: beap | September 8, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm

You know people,Ayers is old enough to answer for himself. If you have a problem with what he allegedly did when Sen Obama was 8 years old then please take it up with him. As far as I know in the US of A, a person is considered an adult at the age of 18 years in which case even their own parents are not held responsible for what they do so why is Sen Obama being held responsible for what someone did many years ago, a man who has by all accounts, reformed his life and put it to good use to his community and thus his country.
This is another example of republican double standards, this party is looking more and more like the Pharisees in the bible. Do as I say not as I do mentality jugde the speck in your brother’s eye but totally ignore the big fat wood in your own eye. Remember as you judge others so will ya be judged!

Posted by: Believe Again | September 8, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm

“I have said repeatedly that there should be no contradiction between keeping America safe and secure and respecting our Constitution,” Obama said”…….
Respect our constitution? He’s kidding right? Obama is the one who made a faux presidential seal and removed the “sheild” (Which is a symbol of protecting the constitution) and replaced it with his ridiculous logo. Making a mockery of both the presidential seal AND our constitution.
McCain/Palin 08′
PUMA!

Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | September 8, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm

Mr. Obama has to resort to the politics of personal destruction since he himself has no record, experience, or substance to justify his presidential aspirations. He is running primarily on ambition, rhetoric, and personality. It’s also quite a stretch for some commentators to compare Mr. Omaba’s experience with that of the incomparable Abraham Lincoln.

Posted by: Phillip Lee | September 8, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm

Wow, there are some real stupid people who post on this site. Hillary supporters flocking to Palin take the cake though. You people are making Hillary look very bad. I have to believe that you are simply Repub trolls, cuz no one who agrees with Hillary on the issues could possibly vote for McCain and Palin. Their polar opposites.
Your grudge will cause quite a bit of damage. Have a conversation with a 2000 Nader voter before you make such an unnecessary mistake. Think more about which party is more likely to put a woman on the Supreme Court. Which party is more likely to address women’s issues. Time to follow Hillary’s lead and move behind the candidate that received the most votes.

Posted by: Erica | September 8, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm

Mack – she lied. Her statement is contrary to documented facts. Yet the McCain campaign turned the lie into a campaign ad.
Clearly that doesn’t bother you, or many other McCain suppporters.
Lying to the American people isn’t putting country first. It’s more of the same.
If McCain wants to try to stake a (dubious) claim to “change”, Obama should hammer the crap out of him on values. Clearly the Republicans have abandoned even the pretense of that positioning

Posted by: Ed | September 8, 2008, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm

“You know people,Ayers is old enough to answer for himself. If you have a problem with what he allegedly did when Sen Obama was 8 years old then please take it up with him. ”
Barry, with his superior intellect, knew that Ayers was an unrepentant terrorist, yet he still developed a strong relationship with him. Why?

Posted by: Mack | September 8, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm

If I were a republican, I’d be very ashamed of most of these posts. As an American, I am ashamed. This is all the more reason we need a change at the top. Attitude reflects leadership.
United we stand, divided we fall.

Posted by: Michelle | September 8, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm

Why does McGoo keep calling me his friend. I don’t even know him.

Posted by: oo | September 8, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm

‘The One’ is losing it. They need to put both candidates on stage at bipartisan campaign stops! Barry wouldnt be so quick to call people shameless liars. He not only lacks judgement, but manners and respect. Townhall meetings should be mandatory. I mean they were voluntary and he keeps saying “thats a debate that I am ready to have” and then his campaign will go into negotiations with the debate oraganisers, they’ll know and rehearse questions ahead of time…what a crock! THese jerks want to lead the USA but have to have a scripted, rehearsed debate OR they dont have the ba**s to appear face to face with each oother so we get a substantive debate instead of namecalling etc…. THERE IS NO DOUBT that ‘The One’ is a very very shady ACORN organizer from that honest land of Chicago politics who launched his political career in the home of an unrepentant domestic terrorist and he stumbled and bumbled the first and only time that he was caught off guard with the questions from G. Stephanopolous! That was a telling moment. This guy is a coward and play the victim or race card at every turn. It is undeniable. When is HE going to answer the tough questions! AND GET THIS…he had the “audacity” to say about Palin “look, you cant just reinvent yourself” ARE YOU KIDDING ME! He wasnt even challenged on that…..BARRY, you have reinvented almost EVERY position thatt you have ever taken on an AS NEEDED basis!!!!!!!! WTF?? Your gonna get trounced YO!

Posted by: Mike | September 8, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm

Yikes,
yes..he is. it will have to be looked at before he gets elected. keep your eyes and ears open for the shoe to drop.

Posted by: michael Taff | September 8, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm

Great article. Thanks for this. I didn’t get to hear this speech. I am concerned about the assault on our constitutional rights.
It is THE most confusing thing in the world to me… than people support George Bush and Cheney who got us into a war based on lies, they have led our country into massive debt. Their adminstration is hanging in a cloud of lies and abuse of power.
McCain and Palin have been ‘lying’, flat out ‘lying’ and people are buying this? I don’t understand why people can’t see that this man has switched views on legislation he authored himself. He is not honorable if he has to ‘lie’ to win… I don’t care how long he was a POW… it clearly didn’t teach him to be more honest.
I don’t understand why people find any thoughts of security in choosing a politician who lies to the american people to be their leader.
I am sick of all of the lies and abuses of power!!
Enough!!
Obama/Biden ’08

Posted by: lb | September 8, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm

“The American people aren’t stupid..”
According to Barak in a recent speach. Huey Long disagreed saying that you can never overestimate the stupid of the electorate.
Obi better hope Huey was right. His chances of winning the presidency depend on it

Posted by: mec | September 8, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm

The way our country is going, all these people that scoff at the importance of habeas corpus are going to be the ones who need it. They will be saying but I didn’t do it, you’ve got the wrong guy and the authorities will be able say, so sad, too bad, no habeous corpus. We will be back for you in a couple of years.
Why don’t they understand that the principles that gave birth to this country are for their protection as well.
They don’t seem to understand, conceptually, what the Constitution represents? I can only guess that they think because they are registered republicans they weren’t going to be spied on with illegal wire tapping.
What fools.

Posted by: Amazed | September 8, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm

Oh well

Posted by: Mack | September 8, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm

It has come to our attention that liberals are sour, whine, and are in general unhappy people because they have been consuming a steady diet of “cheese” in the form of Obama speeches.

Posted by: Spider Baby | September 8, 2008, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm

“Now the DNC media machine (soros) is trying to paint McCain as a lier. ”
I didn’t realize Soros owned the Associated Press and the Wall Street Journal, which both published articles today more or less saying that Palin lied about the Bridge to Nowhere.
Soros’s ownership stake in the WSJ in particular would come as a big surprise to its editorial staff.

Posted by: Ed | September 8, 2008, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm

Ah yes – looky looky looky – this is what Karl Rove drags out every 4 years. Ain’t they mean and hateful. This is their opportunity to be racists because they are so jealous of the wonderful guy with the brilliance who graduated from Harvard at the top of his class. Yup yup. The are green with envy becuase Obama is such a gem! I can’t say I blame them, Rove & Co. keep promising them more guns and bibles before every election but after the election, Rove disappars! lol lol

Posted by: julescator | September 8, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm

The economy sucks. Unemployment is up. Inflation is up.
What is their solution to fix it?
McCain: Lower gas prices and lessen our dependence on foreign oil by investing in renewable technologies, better batteries and better mileage autos, build nuclear power plants similar to France, and drilling for more oil.
Lower food inflation by eliminating the ethanol program which converts food (corn) into ethanol fuel for autos.
Obama’s plan to lower gas prices: “High prices are not a problem. My only issue was how fast they rose.” and make sure your cars have the correct tire pressure and tuneups, “force” people to buy 1 million new cars within 5 years that we don’t have the technology to build and develop alternative energy solutions.
Lower food inflation: A Chicago Tribune article cited Barack Obama’s statement, “Anybody gone into Whole Foods lately and see what they charge for arugula?”
No other plan known.

Posted by: Dave in lv | September 8, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm

“They think you’re Stupid”.

Posted by: julescator | September 8, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm

“”She stopped the Bridge to Nowhere.”
Odd claim, since congress killed it more than 10 months before she became governor.”
you have to look a little deeper than that – after the big public blow up about the bridge – the same money was quietly forwarded to Alaska for general infrastructure – she could have used it to build the bridge anyway – she decided to use it for other stuff and thus she canceled on the bridge. technically true.

Posted by: Rick | September 8, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm

has obama forgotten that both he and biden voted for the bridge to nowhere twice, including the second time, when his alleged friend coburn wanted him to agree with the vote to send the money for katrina relief instead? let’s see – obama votes for the bridge to nowhere twice, biden votes for the bridge to nowhere twice, and he has the nerve to make an issue of palin’s stand on the issue?
it’s a pattern of his – accuse someone of doing something and conveniently leave out the fact that he did the same thing.
would be nice if we had reporters who would point this out every time he does it.

Posted by: so saddened | September 8, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm

I’m an independent, and I have to say that McCain and Palin scare me. What I’ve seen from the way she was chosen, with all these facts coming out and the McCain camp not having any kind of professional, understandable response, leads me to think the decision was not well though-out and he/they can make the same kinds of decisions if elected. It seems a bit cavalier and reckless for my taste. I’m going Obama this election. He’s a far more well-known quantity than McCain, who has really flip-flopped all over the place the past few months. I’m not sure what he stands for.

Posted by: J. | September 8, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm

Scooter: Um you are the one with no hope and you know it. You now have dumb and dumber running your party. lol lol. You know I went to the heartland once, didn’t see the point and came back to the East coast. You guys are so jealous of Obama you dragged out Caribou Barbie from the sticks of Alaska tried to make her a star like Obama, tried to clean her up and educate her (that hasn’t happened yet) and then are trying to co-op “Change” as a campaign slogan along with country first and all the other bull you fools come up with.
Obama is the original.

Posted by: julescator | September 8, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm

So when is Obama going to have a mystery illness and let Biden take over?

Posted by: Pete | September 9, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am

Posted by: julescator | Sep 8, 2008 11:50:50 PM
Anyone who doesn’t vote for Obama is a racist and that includes all those Hillary supporters who vote for McCain too, according to this true blue democrat.
Has anyone else ever met a very smart intellectual who graduated with honors and yet didn’t have a bit of common sense?

Posted by: Dave in lv | September 9, 2008, 12:01 am 12:01 am

WOW….
I’m really glad to see such a spirited group of citizens
giving opinions on which side is best..What ever happened to being able to compromise with the opposing groups or at least being civil.
I’m a Dem who has been around for a while but this time I will be voting (For The First Time In My Life} For The Republican Ticket..
I’ve been happily married to the same lady for 51 Years and helped raise our 5 Kids..I just see this as the year for this Republican Ticket..Try to give this whole thing a look with your eyes wide open instead of calling each other names…..

Posted by: Ken Mattlin | September 9, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am

Scooter- This woman lies so much I am starting to think that Sarah Palin ain’t her real name! lol lol
It’s a disgrace that she parades that baby around like a badge when she cut the budget 62% for special needs children in Alaska. Is there anything this woman hasn’t lied about and this is just the second week.
You guys are so desperate for attention that you were forced to go way to Alaska to get a woman who you are now finding out is barely fit to be a parent, let along VP of this great nation. I don’t blame you for taking it out on Obama. waaaaaaaa waaaaaaa waaaaa

Posted by: julescator | September 9, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am

Oh boy! By the looks of some of these comments. It’s obvious that right wing republicans are not only complete failures and bold face liars, but they are growing dumber exponentially. Not really that surprised, I mean, look at their leader.
“There’s an old saying in Tennessee — I know it’s in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can’t get fooled again.” George W. Bush
LMAO!

Posted by: Chago13 | September 9, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am

Why don’t any of the MCcain R supporters mention that we spend 10 billion a month in iraq? why do they reach for the lowest common denominator and act like bullies in the school yard with their fingers up their noses saying ”we won we won” it does not matter if they fight dirty and lie as long as they win. I think this country should be split in 2, they can all go to Alaska and wait for the end of the world, destroy your own land not ours. Perhaps there are some of us evolving at a greater rate – and we believe in science and evolution and some kind of brotherhood of man.
Back to the issues. these people keep accusing Barack of spending when John McCain Palin want this war to go on endlessly when we owe trillions to China .
It is so dumb people. really. we had a surplus with Clinton and now trillion dollar deficit. what is wrong with you,, maybe you are just racist. i cannot figure out why else you would be stupid,,, or they are the same thing.

Posted by: Liza Nicklaus | September 9, 2008, 12:05 am 12:05 am

Jack Ryan,
“And some fools actually think, along with Emperor Obama, that we should give habeus corpus to terrorists when the constitution says nothing of it.”
I assume that you agree with Alberto Gonzalez when he says, “There is no express grant of habeas in the Constitution. There’s a prohibition against taking it away.” I’d be curious to see if you’d be willing to apply the same reasoning to other basic rights guaranteed in the Constitution (the right to bear arms, freedom of speech, etc). As Arlen Specter (a Republican) pointed out, Gonzalez’s claim defies reason; you can’t take something away unless it’s already been granted.
The whole reason that we have habeas corpus is to be certain that the people we catch and detain are indeed guilty of a crime. We need to know that people we are detaining are terrorists before we can treat them as such. If it can’t be proved that they are, then they should be released. Are you aware of the fact that many of the people we sent to Guantanamo and kept for years have been slowly released because there wasn’t a sliver of evidence to show they were terrorists? If you feel that strongly against basic human rights, maybe you should move to Afghanistan and join the Taliban (you might also want to learn how to spell “habeas” correctly if you want to seem like you know what you’re talking about).
As to Rezko: The conservative editorial board of the Chicago Tribune is satisfied that Obama has answered all of the salient questions and there is no indication whatsoever of any wrongdoing on his part.
As to Ayers: “Neck-deep”? Give it a rest, dude. He barely knew the guy, and there is absolutely nothing in his 11 year record of being an elected official that would indicate any sympathy for the Weathermen.
As to Marxism: Wow, you really are getting desperate, aren’t you? Obama’s policies are about as capitalistic as you can get, he just thinks that we have to make sure that there’s a more fair and even playing field, so that more people have the opportunity to make it.

Posted by: William | September 9, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am

Where is the bridge?
Did it get built?
If not, who stopped it from being built?
Any executive should try to get for their state what they can get, that is natural, but she turned against it when it was going to cost her state money…why would you not want an executive looking out for the best interest of a State?

Posted by: Rocky Lockwood | September 9, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am

Jane: That would by why the are in the “rust belt” soon to be the “dust belt” if Rove has his way. It’s mind boggleling isn’t it. One thing they say about Obama that’s true is “he’s not one of us”. you’re damn skippy he’s not. On his worse day he couldn’t stoop that low. Obama has the class, brains and temprament to run this country. Thank Goodness these Yahoos in here are in the minority in this country. But we entertain them every 4 years and I actually feel sorry for them. They will be the ones effected the most by McRove’s policies. It’s sad.

Posted by: julescator | September 9, 2008, 12:09 am 12:09 am

Response, the gas is cheaper because there is an election to be won- smarten up and use spellcheck. I think there are more misspelled words by the idiots that put others down instead of discussing the issues. My intelligence theory is proving right.

Posted by: Liza Nicklaus | September 9, 2008, 12:11 am 12:11 am

Why does Obama keep bring this, bridge to no where, up. He and Biden both voted for the money to build the bridge, Is he mad because she stopped one of his pork barrel votes

Posted by: roosterzz | September 9, 2008, 12:12 am 12:12 am

Hey, Palin seems to be a very likable person. I encourage people to check her out. There isn’t a reason under the Sun why you can’t like Palin and still vote on the issues that affect our every day lives and pull the trigger for the Obama Administration and its policies for correcting the ship so our country can get back on course.

Posted by: Animal Farmish | September 9, 2008, 12:13 am 12:13 am

William: ^5 – YOU GET MY VOTE. They are hard to get through to unless you have a hate-filled message, however, you did a great job!

Posted by: julescator | September 9, 2008, 12:13 am 12:13 am

Poor widdle Obama – did da big mean waddy from Awaska hurt your widdle feewings? What a wimp.

Posted by: Kent | September 9, 2008, 12:14 am 12:14 am

Wow, you guys are really scared of McCain winning. Have you thought that he’s the best choice. He has a history of compromise. So you’ll get what you want on the social agenda and have a true commander in chief to protect us from terrorists and the Russians. If McCain wins,we all win. If Obama wins, we all lose.

Posted by: dave202 | September 9, 2008, 12:14 am 12:14 am

Guess what fundamentalists- very angry for a god loving folk….
Do not compete religions, its all metaphor anyway. What is this – who are we?!! just live and let live..but let us have the white house this next four years and see how much better things get……and if not, like someone else said- we will probably suffer the next great depression in the us and mccain and palin and bush and all of them will be to blame…but do not forget they have millions so they will not be the ones who suffer- you will

Posted by: Liza Nicklaus | September 9, 2008, 12:17 am 12:17 am

Uh, Obama, we have a long history of suspending Habeaus Corpus during times of war- that’s how we always won them!
Afterwards the courts say “tsk, tsk” but dammit if we don’t deny suspected terrorists, enemy beligerants and enemy nationals these “constitutional rights”. Punishing treason and acts of sedition (Article III, Sec. 3*) come well before our Bill of Rights.
*”…Congress shall have the power to declare an act of treason but Attainder of Treason shall work corruption of blood or forfeiture except during the life of the person attainted.”

Posted by: Anne | September 9, 2008, 12:17 am 12:17 am

The Obama campaign is finally responding more effectively to so-called McCain/Palin “maverick” “reform” claim! My goodness, it is about time! How can McCain and Palin and their handlers think they can get away with such notorious lies? They do indeed think we are all so stupid and gullible. This pair will in reality do anything to try to get elected. It says volumes about their character! Obama’s response is what has been so much lacking–and I am Obama finally sees the merit of fighting back against such obvious (even reckless) distotions!Obama’s ad states the fact, and it is powerful. Truth will in the end trump fiction! That is the way it should be. Falsehood must be continously exposed or the people, uneducated in their leaders, will turn the levers of power to opportunists and the wrong people. I was getting fed up with the Obama campaign AND THE DNC for not effectively responding, especially when the issues and truth of this moment are on their side! Bravo! Let’s see more of this! Expose their lies continuously. GET THE MEDIA TO DO THEIR JOB BY INSISTING THAT THEY INTERVIEW PALIN IMMEDIATELY WITHOUT PRE-CONDITION. We have the right to know all we can about her if she wants to be our leader! It is not a privilege for us to ask, to know and to demand answers where there is some doubt or controversy. The Democrats should START A CLOCK and let it tick to show daily how many hours and days have passed since Palin was selected a running mate without her agreeing to a press interview–the sort of thing that Republicans pulled on Obama before his overseas trip. That should do it! Palin can’t hide for too long. Again I URGE DEMOCRATS TO START A TIME CLOCK ON PALIN. The media must seek to do its job as a sentinel of freedom in our democracy!!!

Posted by: Dr. Sam | September 9, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am

The conservative folks on this blog seem to be drinking Palin’s cool aid to actually ignore the facts…and spewing Obama hate….So Do NOT pay attention to all the HATE being spewed out on the blog…Just think for you and your family…When you vote this time, just close your eyes and think about what will happen to YOU if the Bush policies continue…I am sure you will find the answer…Vote accordingly.

Posted by: Independent | September 9, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am

Rocky Lockwood: “Where is the bridge?
Did it get built?
If not, who stopped it from being built?
Any executive should try to get for heir state what they can get, that is natural, but she turned against it when it was going to cost her state money…why would you not want an executive looking out for the best interest of a State?”
Don’t come to a conclusion if you don’t even know the facts. The bridge was a nearly $300million favor for contractors from corrupt Alaskan Republicans that they tried to sneak in as pork barrel. This major project was a bridge to a town with a whopping 50 people. Who stopped it? The US Congress called Palin out on it after the money was given to Alaska, and Palin was publically humiliated. ONly then did she say she was against the bridge. Oh yeah, this supposedly anti-pork barrel change agent kept the money.

Posted by: Alix | September 9, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am

“90,000-1.5 million documented civilian deaths in Iraq”
haha, what a contradiction in terms. If the best you can do is go from 90 x 10^4 to 1.5 * 10^6 (i.e. nearly two orders of magnitude in range) and call it “documented”, then you don’t know what that word means.

Posted by: Bob | September 9, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am

I love Obama – he makes me proud to be an American. I love this country!!!! I love that Obama came on the scene just when we need him the most. There aren’t many human beings that have his wisdom, knowledge, temprament, brilliance and he is a good person. He is as cool as a cucumber and I like that. I will never forget that picture of him in Germany in front of 200,000 screaming Germans. The whole world is rooting for Obama. They’ve seen McCain for 26 years doing nothing but yelling “hey look at me, I am a Maverick”. How the heck do you call yourself a maverick when you sat in the Senate for 26 years and had your fingerprints all over the 2 biggest financial disasters of the century, not to mention the wrong side of the war.
It looks like McCain is going to lose both the war (lost long ago) and the election. Poor thing.

Posted by: julescator | September 9, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am

It is so dumb people. really. we had a surplus with Clinton and now trillion dollar deficit. what is wrong with you,, maybe you are just racist. i cannot figure out why else you would be stupid,,, or they are the same thing.
Posted by: Liza Nicklaus | Sep 9, 2008 12:05:22 AM
Liza is a bit confused. We have a trillion dollar debt not a trillion dollar deficit.
We had a large debt when Clinton left office.
Clinton did leave a one year budget surplus along with an ACTUAL recession.
Also note while our economy sucks we have not had 2 consecutive quarters where the GDP was negative.
Last quarter our GDP grew a positive 3.3% which makes our economy the best in the industrial world.

Posted by: Dave in lv | September 9, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am

Pabw
I will not attempt to speak for all Republicans, but I assure you, many of us are voting against the agenda and record of Barack Obama. (which is hard to nail down without some research)
Barack Obama, who has a history of using the most machiavellian tactics to get elected, is not the “New Style” politician that he claims to be.
John McCain may vote along Republican lines 90% of the time, but the 10% (as compared to 4% voting against his party for Barack Obama) has consistently been to cross party lines. That is definitionally “Maverick”…at least far more maverick than Barack Obama can ever claim.

Posted by: Rocky | September 9, 2008, 12:22 am 12:22 am

This blog site is by far the most entertaining circus on the web. However, it is disturbing that objective news and reporting has been outsourced to partisan activists. Once upon a time in America, journalists could be trusted to give your the facts…

Posted by: CentristbyChoice | September 9, 2008, 12:24 am 12:24 am

The only reason lifelong democrats are now voting republican is because they are racist or have some race issues . This election is plain as day. In Europe they polled and Barack would win by a landslide . Why can’t people get passed the race thing …..the older people have more of a problem with it. It is wonderful and exciting and he could be the greatest president we have had in a hundred years… imagine that !! the other 2 are so obviously ill-prepared to take on what needs to be done, I think I will be leaving and leaving the country to the others to destroy each other.

Posted by: Liza Nicklaus | September 9, 2008, 12:25 am 12:25 am

Quote from Thundergod: “You libs have the wring picture of Conservatives. . . You have nothing to fear, and if you had a clue about economics, you would understand how lower corporate taxes will help us compete worldwide (all the other industrialized nations were snart enough to figure this out).”
I’m glad the other nations were so “snart.” Yes, look at how well our participation in the global economy has worked for us, Europe, Japan, and all other major world powers: We now owe more money to China than we can ever print, the dollar is at an all-time low, the stock market is stagnant, and we’re losing more jobs than we’re gaining. I’m glad you like China and Russia so much you commie, but I love my country enough to realize that Republican economics are not working, yet McCain will continue them.

Posted by: Alix | September 9, 2008, 12:25 am 12:25 am

For those who don’t know a recession is defined as two straight quarters with a negative GDP.
GDP is the best measure we have to objectively measure the strength or weakness of the total economy of the US.
It is not perfect, but it’s the best we’ve been able to come up with.

Posted by: Dave in lv | September 9, 2008, 12:25 am 12:25 am

Typical Obama line “I have said repeatedly “, says that a lot when he has never mentioned it before. I guess he figures people will actually believe that he had said it before.

Posted by: dgh629 | September 9, 2008, 12:25 am 12:25 am

When was Obama a professor?

Posted by: smith | September 9, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am

One of the key tenants of my Christian faith is to not bear false witness. It’s actually one of the 10 commandments passed down from God. Sara Palin rose at the RNC convention to spread lies about another person and continues to repeat those lies without regard to their impact. What’s even more disappointing is McCain and Palin seem very comfortable telling lies about things for which there’s overwhelming evidence proof of their dishonesty. When will my fellow Christians honor our teachings and reject these Judas!!!

Posted by: PhoenixLD | September 9, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am

One of the inconvenient truths about Democrats is their desire to give foreign born terrorists and “combatants” the same rights as U.S. born citizens. WHATEVER Obama says on this is meaningless. Democrats will grant rights to our enemies if they get a chance.

Posted by: bluecollarbytes | September 9, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am

Liza,
While I understand your point, I don’t understand why we would care what Europe thinks.
I was in Munich last April and the headline proclaimed that Germans overwhelmingly would vote for Obama…my response….”Does anyone remember some of the other people they have elected?”
The President of the US should be most concerned with fulfilling the self-interest of the US. BTW…Europe seems to have a increasingly glowing opinion of Sarah Palin.

Posted by: Rocky | September 9, 2008, 12:28 am 12:28 am

Hey Thundergod:
We HAVE lower taxes
We HAVE tax breaks for corporations
We HAVE a free market system
What happened? The GOP got to run their entire agenda and WHAT HAPPENED?
We have a $10 trillion deficit
We HAVE record home foreclosures
We HAVE destroyed a Soverign country and can’t put it back together
we HAVE 6.1% unemployment and climging
We HAVE higher gas prices
We HAVE Al Queda getting stronger in Afghanistan
We HAVE lost the respect of the world
We HAVE a credit crisis
We OWE a Communist Country more than $600 billion
Now you give us the case for putting the GOP back in office. If they couldn’t run their program when they had the House, Senate, Presidency, Supreme Court – then they never will.
Now pleas make the case for putting these empty suits back in office!!!! Make the case, I am listenig.

Posted by: julescator | September 9, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am

Dave , If our economy is so wonderful and better than others why are we the only ones without health insurance? How much do you make Dave? that would explain why you are a Republican and only think of yourself. There was not a trillion dollar DEBT when clinton left office and we were not in debt to China for that amount and still spending daily. It seems you are a bit confused if you are voting for McCain and Palin. It is really baffling.

Posted by: Liza Nicklaus | September 9, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am

The FBI does not vet candidates…that would be a misuse of a government agency.

Posted by: rocky | September 9, 2008, 12:31 am 12:31 am

Thank you PhoenixLD, that’s the point I’ve been trying to make, but not nearly as well as you did in your post.
There’s nothing about lying to the public – repeatedly – that puts “country first”.

Posted by: Ed | September 9, 2008, 12:32 am 12:32 am

The only person who is shameless is the career politician Obama who graduated college and just runs and runs and runs for political office. Than he states as experience his ability to run a campaign. Obama the candidate who voted for George Bush’s multi million dollar energy giveaway to haliburton. Barack Obama who now says he will keep the George Bush tax break in place. Obama who said not in his “wildiest” dreams could the worlds best military be succesful in Iraq. This Democrats for Mccain/Palin 08!

Posted by: Demnomore | September 9, 2008, 12:33 am 12:33 am

Am I reading this right? Or did Obama get misquoted? “If you’ve got a terrorist, take ‘em out.” Is Obama arguing that we just kill them and be done with it, rendering habeas corpus moot?

Posted by: Eric | September 9, 2008, 12:33 am 12:33 am

Liza,
Because we spent billions upon billions purchasing weapons and paying soldiers so Europe and Canada did not have to do so.
Had we not done so…they would have health care…provided by Russian speaking doctors.

Posted by: Rocky | September 9, 2008, 12:33 am 12:33 am

Cimarron: Please don’t make me listen to Hannity twice in one day! I listen to Hannity and then come into these blogs to hear you mindless puppets repeat verbatim everything he tells you. I say Hannity should be vetted! He whines about Obama from the first minute of his show to the last minute. I love his comedy which is why I listen to him every day.
Get a new source of information, Hannity is stupid!

Posted by: julescator | September 9, 2008, 12:34 am 12:34 am

The only reason lifelong democrats are now voting republican is because they are racist or have some race issues . This election is plain as day. In Europe they polled and Barack would win by a landslide .
Posted by: Liza Nicklaus | Sep 9, 2008 12:25:27 AM
If Obama loses in November, we have no problem if he tries for an office in Europe. His philosophy on taxation, how to defeat terrorism and how to run an economy may very well be identical to most Europeans.
Next trip, have him stay in France or Germany.
Best wishes

Posted by: Dave in lv | September 9, 2008, 12:35 am 12:35 am

I mean it when I say this: this election proves that there is still a major racism problem in this country. Regardless of what you racists say, Obama is perhaps the most inspiring politician since Kennedy. If he were white, this would be a landslide, but he’s not, so we’re going to get 4 more years of a rotten economy plus about 2 new wars. How can you have so much hate? I have read some of the disgusting and disparaging things Republicans wrote after Katrina, and this is not the America I want for my children. Ideas are ideas, and inspiration is inspiration. Quit voting on color.

Posted by: Alix | September 9, 2008, 12:35 am 12:35 am

Some people seem to have this blind faith that Obama will be able to fix the economy. Does anyone know for sure if he can balance his own checkbook? Maybe they are going on his savy land deal with the lot next door to his home?

Posted by: dgh629 | September 9, 2008, 12:36 am 12:36 am

Alix,
Nice hyperbole.
I am not voting against him because of his race….but for his policy ideas.

Posted by: rocky | September 9, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am

If Obama were white, he would not have even been considered a serious candidate. Experience does matter.

Posted by: dgh629 | September 9, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am

Wait:
We should care what a guy who legally changes his name from Barry to Barrak cares?
Or a guy who slips up on the latest ABC (PRO-Left) media and states that he is a muslim?
Or the same guy who has no more experience in the executive branch then the VP candidate of the PRESIDENTIAL candidate who he is supposed to face?
Or the same guy who claimed that he signed up for selective service clearly before Carter reinstated it?
This guy is a liar. Repeatedly.
Give me a break and realize what you are all voting for!

Posted by: Alex Wolf | September 9, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am

JW,
None of us, Republican or Democrat are that crazy.

Posted by: rocky | September 9, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am

Alix, if Obama were white, he’d have started campaigning for Hillary already.

Posted by: bluecollarbytes | September 9, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am

It started with Nixon, why we do not have health care like England, France, Canada CUBA, Norway, Australia , New Zealand, Italy ….every other industrialized country has it..that is because Nixon knew certain people could make a profit……
that is the problem with you republicans, you manipulate the naive population when you know that under your administrations the rich get richer and the middle class shrinks. the divide btwn the two get bigger and bigger.. and some people like it that way because enough is never enough. that is why some people wear 300k outfits to speak to the american people.
this is just silly… i really do think we should be two different countries. i am out of here, you won republicans, you will lose your smartest and most talented – stupidity reigns, greed reigns, inequality reigns you win, going to bed to dream of a place where people get along and are sensical.

Posted by: Liza Nicklaus | September 9, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am

Liza Nicklaus
Dave , If our economy is so wonderful and better than others why are we the only ones without health insurance?
————————————–
What’s really baffling is the idea that government (read: taxpayers) should be paying for YOUR medical insurance.
maybe step # 1 for you should be getting a damn job

Posted by: AVA | September 9, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am

No one is asking for suspending Habeas Corpus for US citizens. The question is whether it should also apply to foreigners who try to mass murder us. That was the point Palin raised in her speech.
So, Obama claims he’s honest enough to not mis-represent his own records. I’ll buy into that for now and will continue to watch. But, is he honest enough to not misrepresent others’ positions? That I seriously doubt. The proof is in his distortion of HC’s health care plan during the primary.
If anyone thinks Obama is completely honest, please give me the chance to sell you the Golden Gate bridge – very low price and you will make 1000 times your purchase price selling it as scrap metal.

Posted by: Obama-Yah-Wright | September 9, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am

It started with Nixon, why we do not have health care like England, France, Canada CUBA, Norway, Australia , New Zealand, Italy ….every other industrialized country has it..that is because Nixon knew certain people could make a profit……
that is the problem with you republicans, you manipulate the naive population when you know that under your administrations the rich get richer and the middle class shrinks. the divide btwn the two get bigger and bigger.. and some people like it that way because enough is never enough. that is why some people wear 300k outfits to speak to the american people.
this is just silly… i really do think we should be two different countries. i am out of here, you won republicans, you will lose your smartest and most talented – stupidity reigns, greed reigns, inequality reigns you win, going to bed to dream of a place where people get along and are sensical.

Posted by: Liza Nicklaus | September 9, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am

Actually Thundergod:
I’ve run my own business as well as worked for some terrible and very good managers.
The good executive pull together opinions and then leads the team toward execution. (Obama’s economic advisors)
A good executive sets goals for the company and drives them toward their attainment. (Obama’s goal for universal healthcare, lower taxes for the middle class, 80% of America)
A good executive sets a vision for the company and works with his team to push toward it. (Obama’s energy independence and green collar jobs in 10 years).
What would you seriously have an executive do other than this?
BTW, we’ve voted the congressional majority for the last 10 1/2 years and the GOP ticket for the last 8 years.
There has been ENOUGH ineptness in government. There is a civic duty that should cause you to reach out past gun control and abortion issues. These issues won’t be resolved any time soon and serve only to expand the hole in your pocket.
What we need from a DEM or GOP balanced government is fiscal responsibility not overspending based on taxes and definitely not overspending based on credit (national debt). Any adult trying to apply credit to operational expenses (groceries for an example) would be crazy yet we run our government this way. DEBT is a sure way to slavery… When China and other countries own more of the US, our policies will become adversely affected… talk about loss of FREEDOM.

Posted by: Animal Farmish | September 9, 2008, 12:40 am 12:40 am

Stop with the dumb and petty distractions of Ayers, Rev. Wright, et all. Michelle So freaking what? Miss Buffalo Chip was a 20-something and McCain was a married father of 3 with a disabled wife! Miss Moose Murderer was videotaped just this past June on her church podium asking and predicting that “God will build the pipeline in Alaska.”
This woman is under investigation and the subpoenas are being readied. That is all she is ready for Day One; not being a skinlesion from the Presidency.

Posted by: Lauren | September 9, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am

I like how the one guy is too concerned with making another person’s math and syntax look stupid that he totally ignores that somewhere between 90,000 and 1.5 million Iraqi people have died as a direct or forseeable cause of our occupation of their country. But good job with pointing out how stupid that guy who brought it up was. You were really clever. Hey go over my post with a find tooth comb to make sure I didn’t use the wrong participle.

Posted by: Roger | September 9, 2008, 12:42 am 12:42 am

Dave in lv:
Thanks for the textbook explanation of the GDP. NOW pay attention I will tell you the real life definition:
A recession is when people lose their jobs and unemployment is at 6.1%. A recession is when my house lost $100,000 in value in the last 9 months. A recession is when you watch your neighbor’s lose their house and know that you are one paycheck away from losing yours. I could go on but I think you get the point.
That’s the problem with Republicans they sprew in Black and White – we live in Gray! In 2008 the American people will send you packing with all your ideological bullshit. You are one clueless group of people and the WORSE thing for AMERICA. Now get out of our White House, you have disgraced the office!

Posted by: julescator | September 9, 2008, 12:42 am 12:42 am

As a democrat I have a tip for the Obama supporters who when they can’t come up with an argument yell “you’re a racist!”. Guess what? That won’t work.

Posted by: Dev | September 9, 2008, 12:43 am 12:43 am

Lets be a bit more clear here. The denial of habeas as passed by congress, signed by the president and, upheld by the court, applies only to aliens, not US citizens
Sounds like a lot of agreement on this one but apparently not Obama. Does he have a better solution than the 3 branches of government?
As he was never a professor of any law let alone con law I would go with what has been established rather than one mans wishes

Posted by: smith | September 9, 2008, 12:44 am 12:44 am

every person in here for palin points to her “executive experience” well you know who else had that experience george bush and he used all that experience to drive the country into the ground, obama may not be the best candidate but he is surely much better than another war mongoring republican who is out of touch and still trying to fight the viet nam war it is 2008 times have changed we can not simply bully and blow up every country just because we feel like it

Posted by: dave | September 9, 2008, 12:44 am 12:44 am

Lauren
Haven’t you ever listened to Obama when he gave speeches from the pulpit declaring HE WILL BUILD GODS KINGDOM HERE ON EARTH?
Or that he wants to be the INSTRUMENT of God.

Posted by: Dave in lv | September 9, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am

All of you Obama supporters blasting Palin and her request for a bridge shows your stupidity. The bridge was for the residents and others to get to a Ketchikan airport for travel. She certainly did not put that money in her pocket. Alaska needs thousands of miles of roads and bridges. Airplanes are the most common mode of transportation.
By the way, the good Senator Obama requested and received tax funds for his Black Liberation Theology Church that teaches hate, racism and God Damn America plus he also channeled funds to the University of Chicago and Michelle received a super-duper pay raise.
Obama is the liar and the crook.
The State of Alaska send three times more money to Washington from the sale of natural resources than it gets back in funds, Alaska is a god mine for the greedy people in Washington.
One can not travel from Anchorage, the largest city, to Juneau, the capitol, by car.

Posted by: Mary | September 9, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am

Liza,
Freedom Fries was stupid…I will admit that…but then again, so was the French attempt to sanitize their language of any “Americanisms”…
I am a Republican, and I love Europe, but I am realistic, they have what they have because America subsidized their defense during the Cold War, and continues (as evidenced by the latest Russia/Georgia conflict) to be the best hope they have from future security challenges.

Posted by: rocky | September 9, 2008, 12:48 am 12:48 am

dgh62: Also, If Obama were White, we wouldn’t be having this conversation!
:-)

Posted by: julescator | September 9, 2008, 12:49 am 12:49 am

Dave in LV:
Even Warren Buffet doesn’t necessarily go by this definition. To be truthful the formula is subjective at best – 3 negative quarters of GDP growth, etc.

Posted by: Animal Farmish | September 9, 2008, 12:51 am 12:51 am

Rocky,
I see, so all of the fighting over who is a better “career” politician for president in the democrap and republicrap camps isnt crazy?
Give me a break! This is the exact reason why our so called “democracy” is in such a mess. Long Live the ideas intentions, and the Republic our forefathers intended for us to have and that has been shamelessly destroyed by career politicians like the ones running for President now. Brainwashed americans, I am so ashamed.

Posted by: JW | September 9, 2008, 12:51 am 12:51 am

John McCain made several propaganda videos for the North Vietnamese when he was a prisoner of war. A real patriot would have said no and faced the consequences. He doesn’t have the veterans’ or servicemen’s support because he doesn’t look out for his own. He got terrible marks on veteran funding. Every soldier in Iraq is a greater patriot than this punk.

Posted by: Hanoi John | September 9, 2008, 12:52 am 12:52 am

Dev: Perhaps you are not reading the posts. Only the GOP brings up Obama’s race. Try reading the posts before commenting please!

Posted by: julescator | September 9, 2008, 12:52 am 12:52 am

Constitutional History has taught us that during times of war, certain fundamental rights may be proscribed, such as burning draft cards and speaking out about the wonders of Jihad… so why would Barak Obama, knowing this full well, worry about a suspected foreign terrorist’s right to habeus corpus in American Courts? It makes no sense.
The far left has made an egregious error in this campaign; it gravely miscalculated how much we love America and how far we’ll go to defend her. Those in the left will be only a comedic stop for the writers of history, who will chuckle how at one point in American history, there was a group that believed love of country and protecting terrorists could ever exist together on the same platform.
Not here, not never. This is OUR country. In the words of John Locke… if you don’t like it [referring to the social contract] then you can leave, now please! Thank you.

Posted by: David Hamilton OHIO | September 9, 2008, 12:52 am 12:52 am

Mary:
The attack should be couched in the hypocrisy of her anti-pork stance when she is really for pork.
That’s like saying I’m a VEGAN but I each pork chops everyday.
Wait.. What? You eat what?

Posted by: Animal Farmish | September 9, 2008, 12:53 am 12:53 am

JW,
No, we are arguing (if you want to call it that) pragmatism and reality. The last really viable 3rd party run was in 1912.
Build a national organization, and then we can talk.

Posted by: Rocky | September 9, 2008, 12:53 am 12:53 am

JW,
No, we are arguing (if you want to call it that) pragmatism and reality. The last really viable 3rd party run was in 1912.
Build a national organization, and then we can talk.

Posted by: Rocky | September 9, 2008, 12:53 am 12:53 am

when OBAMA meets with bill clinton this week (for some out of date advice) perhaps he can ask clinton why he turned down bringing OSAMA to justice.
a problem. obama is lawyer, clinton is a lawyer, kerry is a lawyer, biden is a lawyer, michelle is lawyer, hillary is a lawyer.
that statement is a serious problem for the security of this country.
lawyers ar eliable to take both sides of an argument.
clinton will argue the law as to why he did not take OSAMA when he was offered.

Posted by: deroy | September 9, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am

Palin wants to be VP, but she wants to skip the job interview. I don’t trust her.

Posted by: Jenny | September 9, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am

Rocky,
I am not talking about Russia. I am talking about France and England. I watched sicko. and it is not bias it bashes both democrats and republicans for creating the screwed up health care system we have now.
I am not so proud to admit if I am wrong. But I may have to face the fact that I just do not like the way things are in this country, spending all of this money on a war that is not working , will never be won and has killed so many americans and innocent people. This is not what i pay taxes for , this is not what I want my children to inherit. I have hope, why can’t we all have hope. what is the big problem?

Posted by: Liza Nicklaus | September 9, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am

I was listening to the fired up Obama tonight on the news. I was surprised to hear Obama “screeching”. I haven’t heard him speak in this manner before. I am still a Hillary supporter and I am afraid this might start turning people off. It reminded me of the debate when Hillary recanted whether illegal immigrants should have a drivers license. That was the start of her going downhill. Obama people, please have him tone it down a little to avoid the screeching tone. We undecideds are still trying to decide which direction to go. He needs to go back to being positive. Whenever he speaks about Palin, he is allowing the press to put her name out there one more time.

Posted by: Shell | September 9, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am

julescator
There is a difference between objective facts and anecdotes. It appears a large part of many Democrat meetings is “Look how bad I have it” victim mentality.
Yes the economy is bad, but there are objective measures. Is it worse today than when we had 21% inflation, 18% interest rates and 12% unemployment? Is it really worse than the depression (as some Democrats have claimed) when we had a 24% unemployment rate?
Did you know under Clinton the unemployment rate was often above 6%?
Even as bad as it is the economy grew 19% during the last eight years and is still the best economy in the industrial world.
Given it is bad, we can either look at who has the best plan with the best chance of success or you don’t care and pick someone who CAN make things worse.
Best wishes

Posted by: Dave in lv | September 9, 2008, 12:58 am 12:58 am

I wish Obama would settle on one accent and stick with it. He has different messages for different groups and does the same thing with his speech. He tries to sound more like a “brotha” in some cases, an intellectual in others, while tossing out a few memorized sentences in Spanish when pandering to those groups.
Would the real Obama speak ? I’d like to hear his real voice.

Posted by: TGood | September 9, 2008, 12:59 am 12:59 am

Start getting use to it: it’s gonna happen friends.
President John McCain

Posted by: Dak | September 9, 2008, 1:00 am 1:00 am

Liza,
Hope does not come from government…never has.
You apparently missed my point. England and France both were able to have socialized medicine exactly because the U.S. provided military protection at a huge cost to our nation. Add in the Marshall Plan, and other similar programs and you have the root of why Europe and Canada have socialized health care.

Posted by: rocky | September 9, 2008, 1:00 am 1:00 am

Alex Wolf:
There should be personal responsibility, even Obama has said for example that Black men should take responsibility for their children.
However when we look at what it is to be a slave versus taking on policy for the common good of the nation then you are simply making an incorrect argument.
If it could be proved through foresight that universal health care could lessen the burden on each American while maintaining a world class medical system, wouldn’t be worth it. The only problem is that we don’t have foresight so we should, when appropriate, engage in the American experiment for the benefit of all Americans.
Handing over state power to the National Government for defense is socialistic, socialistic defense. The New deal was socialism.
America is a careful blend of social pursuits and Horatio Algier motivation. Neither one can survive without the other before becoming cancerous.

Posted by: Animal Farmish | September 9, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am

Shell:
I am a self-admitted FAR right Conservative.
And I canot believe you are much happier with your candidate than I am with mine.
BUT – when mine fils, it is out of personal diagreements with this or that particular party.
Obama, on the other hand, has yet to find his voice: He is pandering to this or that wing to try to reestablish his position.
Obama IS a well spoken, and I truelly believe (though his opinions differ radically from mine) well intentioned young man.
BUT – he is a YOUNG man. One not yet ready to face the harsh real-politik problems facing this nation. Nor one ready to understand the economic nuances facing this very tough economy.
Perhaps in 10-20 years he may make a great President.
But that day is certainly not today.

Posted by: Alex Wolf | September 9, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am

Rocky,
We also did it for trade.

Posted by: Animal Farmish | September 9, 2008, 1:02 am 1:02 am

Heres’s a thought that will keep you awake at night, President Obama / Speaker Pelosi.
More flip flopping than the deck of flounder boat. Not to mention getting nothing done. Obama has created no legislation and Pelosi’s tenure has produced the the least amount of meaningful work of any congress. And both seem to have a penchant for taking vacations at times leadership is needed. (Obama in Hawaii during the Georgian crisis uttered a typically meaningless statement. Pelosi calling a recess with fuel prices soaring and a banking crisis , which saw the government taking control of half of all mortgages , before congress returned ) Kinda like sticking your head in the sand , I’d say

Posted by: Road to Ruin | September 9, 2008, 1:03 am 1:03 am

JW,
I googled something a little different to make sure…the Constitution Party got less than 1% in 2004.
I would rather try to change my party from within, than vote for a party with zero chance of winning a national election.

Posted by: rocky | September 9, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am

Dave in lv – Sorry Dave you are misinformed. We no longer have the best economy in the free world. You are sadly mistaken and should probably google the facts prior to writing on a blog. The problem is you assume you have a modicum of knowedge but you don’t. Listen to me carefully, the country would have failed were it not for the government bailing out the banks, Fannie & Freddie. Now the auto industry want $50 billion in lost cost loans to fix their problems. If you thing running up a deficit of over $10 trillion is repsonsible, then perhaps you came from a differnt planet. You clearly have no grasp on financial matters. Also, we have a $4 trillion deficit when Bush took office and a surplus. Now tell me again how well we are doing!

Posted by: julescator | September 9, 2008, 1:05 am 1:05 am

Animal Farmish,
Had Russia taken over Europe, we could have sold them goods to.
Should we have just let them whither in the vine?
BTW….All nations act in their own self interest.

Posted by: rocky | September 9, 2008, 1:06 am 1:06 am

OHH, Poor Baby Barack!!
Can’t find your picture on the front page this week!!!!

Posted by: BOB | September 9, 2008, 1:06 am 1:06 am

Dems – it is time to face the Hard Truth.
You worked yourself in a tizzy to elect the MOST LIBERAL of all US Senators and the least experienced.
You got what you wanted. As Rev Wright would say, “Them there chickens be coming home to roost.” How sweet it is…
That be the Hard Truth.

Posted by: The Hard Truth | September 9, 2008, 1:07 am 1:07 am

Rocky:
I agree all nation’s act in their own self-interest. That is what they are supposed to do. I was merely pointing this out since we always try and make our motivations seem more than what they are.
There is nothing wrong with self-interest. I just want people to be honest and say it.

Posted by: Animal Farmish | September 9, 2008, 1:08 am 1:08 am

Green Collar jobs?
I run a business designing and producing custom automation machinery for manufacturing.
I am typically beyond leading edge and at the bleeding edge! – very risky
but it is a job that needs to be done.
Our government’s executive branch is in a similar business, and I see Mcain’s
stands typically in step with those overly general statements ( keep in mind concensus is not always the wise course).
By the way what the hell is a green collar job?
If you mean engineering systems for different sources and mode of transfer for Force x Time. These jobs will be created by market demand, and manufacturing concerns.
I suppose you by the global warming crap to. Al gore fails to mention in his movie, that rises and falls in glacial core sample data lag the corresponding temperature change by about 800 years. Look closely at the graph next time, time is the x axis.
The CO2 rose from the oceans warming, and releasing it, and lessened by the oceans cooling and taking more of ot into solution.
CO2 is less than .04% ( yes that is 4 hundreths of 1%) of the atmosphere. the thermodynamics ( the study of heat transfer ) does not support this in anyway being a cause of “climate change”.
In fact,
the most prominent scientists on the IPCC withdrew their support because the real science had been edited out, and the conclusion turned to a bold faced lie.
People have had to sue to get their names off of the study.
I could go on for about 20 pages.
the only reason people are jumping on the bandwagon is that because of this crap, the funding for climate research has gone up from something like 180 million annually in the US to about 2 Billion annually.
For a piece of that pie i might even campaign for Barack buddy.
I really like your Dilbert’s boss answer about what a good executive does.
That rhetoric does nothing to mitigate the facts.
Debt is a problem, yet debt is also what keeps those we owe interested in our well being.
Admittedly, spending is way out of hand.
So what is the Democratic solution?
Increase taxes, increase spending ( orif you do reduce spending it will be done by gutting our military – DUMB!)
By the way, has Obama ever finished anything but law school?
well who ever wins I hope they do a good job, or get struck by lightning!
Peace

Posted by: Thundergod | September 9, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am

Rock,
Exactly my point. Brainwashed americans constantly voting for the same ole worn out rhetoric of promises that will never be kept by “career” politicians. What a shame people wont wake up from the same old night “meer.”
Will President McCain or Obama save us from ourselves? Not in a million years!

Posted by: JW | September 9, 2008, 1:11 am 1:11 am

Hey Dave,
Clearly Bush was too late to help your education – looks like you got left behind my friend. Sorry your so bitter.
Try night school – they can teach you things like ‘punctuation’ and ‘capitalization’.

Posted by: The Hard Truth | September 9, 2008, 1:12 am 1:12 am

Alex Wolf:
I couldn’t quite follow your counter argument. Can you please re-state it?
If you are responding to my question regarding Palin’s experience to be POTUS if some untimely demise were to befall McCain, please explain it merely on her qualifications and not in comparison to Senator Obama’s. I wasn’t asking about his preparation. I believe you already posted a comment in regard to his readiness.

Posted by: Animal Farmish | September 9, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am

Results matter and Palin did give back the money for the bridge – it’s a true story. Whatever led up to the give back is the political process, but she did not spend that money – she gave it back to the US taxpayers. So her folks in Alaska didn’t get their bridge and the windfall, and she still has 80% approval rating because she negotiated and worked it out with the supporters. It’s apparent that the DNC candidate lacks executive experience by his nitpicking her achievements. The DNC candidate has already time and time again, “describe(d) in an ad that I did something that is opposite of what I did.” Remember your Oct 2007 vote to approve expanding Nafta in Peru, and you told people in Ohio that you didn’t support Nafta but Hillary did, yet the opposite was true. Remember telling people that you would accept the government campaign financing and at the last minute changing you mind. Remember telling folks about your work on campaign ethics and yet your own campaign abuses the political process searching for for loopholes, like bussing supporters from out of state into Texas and other states to disrupt the voter’s normal caucus process. Rev Wright was your spiritual advisor who you could no less disown than your grandmother, until you disowned him, because in 20 years you never heard his weekly racist comments. He needs a new campaign strategist, who will get out his message on issues, rather than these divisive attacks tactics.

Posted by: Jorge | September 9, 2008, 1:14 am 1:14 am

still waiting tell me what bush has done good for this country, especially you hard truth tell me

Posted by: dave | September 9, 2008, 1:15 am 1:15 am

Obama must have seen his poll numbers lol he is mad. Watch the race card be played again before the week is out. I cannot wait until November 4, 2008 when Senator Barack Obama will become a National joke. His career will be over and the Obots and the DNC will have egg all over their faces. We will have a man who is willing to take on his own party for the sake of his party and a woman who has more experience then bone head barack.

Posted by: hillarysmygirl08 | September 9, 2008, 1:16 am 1:16 am

Hey Dave,
Clearly Bush was too late to help your education – looks like you got left behind my friend. Sorry your so bitter.
Try night school – they can teach you things like ‘punctuation’ and ‘capitalization’.
Posted by: The Hard Truth | Sep 9, 2008 1:12:56 AM
Hard Truth, Don’t you mean “you’re so bitter”?
Best wishes

Posted by: Dave in lv | September 9, 2008, 1:17 am 1:17 am

Mccain brought in a religion freak to his ticket to fool some people. Americans love their religion, but they also understand its complexity. Therefore, Mccain’s pandering is going to be exposed eventually. Obama will win in a landslide. Get used to it. Good job, Obama!

Posted by: Ron | September 9, 2008, 1:17 am 1:17 am

Jorge: Palin did NOT give back the money – Alaska used it for other expenditures. Get your facts right.

Posted by: Jay | September 9, 2008, 1:18 am 1:18 am

it has been 10 minutes and still nothing good that bush has done

Posted by: dave | September 9, 2008, 1:18 am 1:18 am

While I’m not surprised I am a little disappointed. Judging from the majority of these comments it’s no wonder this country is so screwed up. We truly are becoming a nation of idiots. I’m curious how many of you that posted what amount to ignorant racist comments have actually done any research on any of these candidates. Or are you simply lemmings willing to follow the leader right over the edge of the cliff? Try thinking for once. It wont hurt too much.

Posted by: Robert Kent | September 9, 2008, 1:20 am 1:20 am

Animal:
To reinstate: Both are clearly not of the caliber that one would expect of a Presidential candiate. However, only one IS running for that slot.
However, the Dem Candidate has exclusively legislative-branch experience. That is to say: One who takes (typically) the laws proposed by others and tries to advance them to the legislative branch of government. (NOTE: Not necessarily proposed laws that he or she has specifically wirtten btw).
The executive branch, like the POTUS, is a different matter. He or she is responsible for enacting those laws forwarded through the Congress and signed by the President.
In this matter, Palin has the clear advantage: She was and is a member of the executive branch of her state.
Obama, on the other hand, despite his policies you may or may not agree with, is merely a member of the legislative branch. He cannot dare claim to have any executive-branch experience. This is not a partisan argument. But a simple fact of how we govern this nation and its states.
So – Palin, despite not being my person of choice, clearly has more experience in her designated branch (using your example of any incapacitation of McCain) than any that Obama would have in full health.
This is not a partisan arguement: Just a simple fact of how things work in a Exexutive / Legislative / Judicial picture of the world.
- Alex

Posted by: Alex Wolf | September 9, 2008, 1:20 am 1:20 am

What good has Bush done? How about kept another 9/11 from happening for the last seven, count em, 7 years…duuuhhh?

Posted by: Kim | September 9, 2008, 1:21 am 1:21 am

Sarah Palin=Governor
Barack Obama=Soup Kitchen Organizer
Hmmmmmmmmmm

Posted by: Steve | September 9, 2008, 1:21 am 1:21 am

clearly mccain and palin are liars who think we are fools.they and their gorvernment have weaken our malitary and left us venurable by taking us to a war that was based on lies,and they still talk about iraq.look at how this stupid war has cost us in all areas and they are bragging about the surge being successful.in the frst place who broght voilence in iraq? it was bush-mccain-palin and thier party.we don’t need mccain-palin because thier judgement is more flawed than bush.there are so many skeletons in palins closet that is going to bring mccain down.and what do we call someone who bends the truth LIAR that is who she is.

Posted by: smauel | September 9, 2008, 1:22 am 1:22 am

Rebecca, couldn’t agree more about multiple news sources. I watch and read it all. I still think Fox give the most (no cliche intended) fair and balanced points of view, far better than MSNBC, CNN or any of the networks. My point was that when you say the whole world hates us, in reality what you were seeing was the disdain of a few liberal governments (which have since been thrown out by their electorate), played way out of proportion by our own Bush-hating, liberal media. The only thing that keeps them in check here is alternative news like Fox. While traveling abroad, the only American news I ever saw was CNN, which is hardly unbiased. So you have the whole world forming their opinion of the U.S. based on Bush-hating CNN? In all actuality, when I was out of the country most people I talked to were fully supportive of the U.S. and its policies.

Posted by: zeekbag | September 9, 2008, 1:22 am 1:22 am

It’s just as I predicted: Obama is hitting the wall. Sarah has more common sense, intelligence and eloquence in her toenail than Obama has on a good day. This election is over.

Posted by: John Wark | September 9, 2008, 1:23 am 1:23 am

Thundergod:
Nice exposition on global warming. Your answer seems to be well prepared and oft repeated. My point is even if global warming was a farce, from an R&D investment standpoint wouldn’t it be a money making industry to cultivate and grow? The demand is there and a market is available. All other C02, earth warming, water boiling/freezing is irrelevant. There are major rural countries that we could be exporting green technology to in masse, that by the way are growing middle classes based on globalism. Al Gore’s assessment is irrelevant from the fact we have a potential export that we are heavily investing in (we are investing at the state level).
On the point of market demands. Government manipulates this all the time – the steel industry, the cotton industry, corn subsidies for ethanol. I get a good laugh whenever I hear a FREE market trader talk as if government regulation, legislation, and spending doesn’t create markets or artificially prop them up.

Posted by: Animal Farmish | September 9, 2008, 1:23 am 1:23 am

Dave in lv – trust me, with MBA in hand I certainly know the definition of a recession. How about this – the country is not in a recession – technically, however the PEOPLE of the UNITED STATES are. How about that. You GOPers need to stop cutting and pasting out of textbooks and start looking at the country! Is there anything you would change at this point? Or would you continue down the same path and pray for a different result? That is the definition of INSANITY – (appropriate in this case)

Posted by: julescator | September 9, 2008, 1:24 am 1:24 am

Here’s the hard truth. America is on a rapidly moving downward spiral. We were under the delusion that the economy was growing when all we were doing was creating a credit bubble – now that bubble has imploded. In the meanwhile the Republicans continue to spend trillions on a war that cost numerous lives. The republicans have caused enough problems – it’s time to step aside and let a real leader take over. Voting for McCain would be equivalent to America going to hell – but then again, given that McCain is by his own admission an alduterer, who will say whatever he needs to in order to manipulate votes, he will wind up in hell anyway, so maybe he is an apt leader.

Posted by: Former Republican | September 9, 2008, 1:26 am 1:26 am

John Wark: Prove it. The only way McCain gets into the White House is if the Obamas and the Bidens invite him and Cindy to DINNER!

Posted by: julescator | September 9, 2008, 1:26 am 1:26 am

I heard about the MTV foreign narrator endorsement of the Soup kitchen organizer. After living overseas for 10 years and traveling 30 countries I have realized that there value’s and ours are different. So stay the Hell out of our election…
See we don’t believe that Al-Qaida can be defeated with Medication and Therapy.

Posted by: Brian | September 9, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am

Obama making an issue out of the Bridge to Nowhere when both he and Biden *supported* it? Shameless, these folks are just shameless.

Posted by: Jim | September 9, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am

still waiting tell me what bush has done good for this country, especially you hard truth tell me
Posted by: dave | Sep 9, 2008 1:15:00 AM
Dave, While Bush has blown it in a number of areas:
1. He got us out of a recession. The economy has grown 19% over seven years and is the best in the industrial world.
Even so, the economy still sucks.
2. No successful Al Qaida attack on US soil after 9/11. 2/3 of their leadership killed or captured. Numerous plots prevented. Of the estimated 20,000 Al Qaida sent to Iraq, only 2,000 remain and they are on the run without any territory they can hold.
3. First to fund stem cell research
4. First to provide substantial funds to fight aids in Africa.

Posted by: Dave in lv | September 9, 2008, 1:28 am 1:28 am

TO DAVE:
Funny how you can’t answer MY question to you. Typical of left strategy: cut and run.
President Bush has cut capital gains from over 30% to now 15% which has boosted our economy in numbers you won’t understand, foreign capital has flocked here in the trillions, causing a 20% higher tax collection than Bill Clinton did under his “great” economy [he was riding the benefits of Bush I years] That one I cannot explain to you, Sir, because I can only guess you do not understand level 1 economics.
President Bush led the middle east into a new era pinning the extremists against the reformers who previously had NO voice. In 30 years, the Iraq war will be hailed as the most risky and influential Presidential move in history. Another hard one to explain to you since I can only assume your knowledge of history extends to what you ate for breakfast, Dave. Reform movements in Beirut, Damascus, Teheran, Amman and even Saudi Arabia and Egypt have formed and Jihadist oponents are now starting to emerge… please let me know about how bad this is, don’t worry cuz that’s what I expect from you Dave.
Third, and most important for these times ahead. President Bush has sent a message, through our hardline stance with the Russians, pressure on the Chinese, and direct invasion of Iraq, that America will stand by her allies and crush her enemies.
I do disagree on many other issues with the President, but at least his name is not BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA. I stand with this country, not his.

Posted by: David Hamilton OHIO | September 9, 2008, 1:29 am 1:29 am

Republicans’ answer to housing crisis: USA USA USA USA…..
Republicans’ answer to health care crisi: USA USA USA….
Republicans’ answer to education crisis: USA USA USA…
I was astounded by this kind of chanting at the their convention. Patriotism is one thing, but it is not the answer to some of the problems we are facing.

Posted by: Ron | September 9, 2008, 1:30 am 1:30 am

was the cost of killing saddam hussein who posed no real risk to us which has been proven time in and time out worth it instead of going after the man who actually killed american citizens, and my capitilization you keep talking about, dude this is an internet comment section ill worry about capital letters when im writing a real paper not responding to scumbags like you on the internet, and who was the president who ignored repeated warning just a motn or two before 9/11 ……. i do not remember enlighten me

Posted by: dave | September 9, 2008, 1:30 am 1:30 am

Alex:
I agree with your assessment of time spent in a governor seat and time spent in congress.
It would appear based on your logic proof then that Palin should be running for President and McCain should be VP.

Posted by: Animal Farmish | September 9, 2008, 1:31 am 1:31 am

Country First…..McCain/Palin!
Obama Bin Biden going down.

Posted by: Debra | September 9, 2008, 1:31 am 1:31 am

No. traditionally liberals see the economy in the context of game theory. If you change the rules of the game through incentives and taxes – you can change the behavior of the country for the better. Yes democrats want to increase taxes – we are in a serious deficit and abstractly – we’re in a local maxima with respect to pareto efficiency.

Posted by: Nick | September 9, 2008, 1:32 am 1:32 am

zeekbag – when you say FoxNews is Fair and Balanced, you lose all credibility and need not write past that sentence. The network of Hannity, Rove, O’reilly and an assortment of hate mongering knuckleheads is not my idea of fair and balanced! You need a serious education!

Posted by: julescator | September 9, 2008, 1:32 am 1:32 am

I am gonna stop the global warming cloud hanging over the state of Tennessee. By pulling the plug on Gore’s electric transformer.

Posted by: Tim | September 9, 2008, 1:33 am 1:33 am

Animal:
Sad, isn’t it?
From either party?
310 million people and these are our choices?
One could hope that the Dems are all civic minded and didn’t care about the title and that the Reps are all smart businessmen making better $$$$ in the private sector . . .
But still . . . That Obama and McCain are this nation’s choices . . . .
Makes me wonder!

Posted by: Alex Wolf | September 9, 2008, 1:33 am 1:33 am

Barry Baby, “these people” are more concerned about the safety and welfare of the American people than they are about the “rights” of foreign terrorists.

Posted by: RKH | September 9, 2008, 1:34 am 1:34 am

Don – dude, I need your photo. You would make a great poster boy for our the Dems upcoming “Country of whiners” campaign.
Just because you have been screwed over, doesn’t mean it was your fault. Got it.
Your right, blame America First. I guess we really do suck after all. Thanks for the heads-up.

Posted by: The Hard Truth | September 9, 2008, 1:35 am 1:35 am

Dave: here are a few things GW Bush accomplished with the support of the Democratic majority congress: 1) created the no child left behind act 2001, which while not perfect was an improvement over no standards to measure performance 2) increased HIV/AIDs research by $50 Billion 3) created a $10,000 adoption tax credit to help average people adopt and this doubled the foster-care adoptions 4)created homeland security department 5) no new 911 attacks on his watch on our soil 6) Reduced H1B visas from a high of 195,000 per year to 66,000 per year 7) Negoatiated to Disarm Libya of its WMD’s 8) Increased military pay & renovated outdated military housing 9) Signed Medicare reform, including medicare prescription plan 10) funded purchase of medicine for millions of people in Africa with AIDs 11) support people with disabilities with programs to develop new technology, buy houses with year’s section 8 vouchers for disabled. 12)Made education savings funds tax-free

Posted by: Patty | September 9, 2008, 1:36 am 1:36 am

The thing that seems to amaze me is thay Obamas always seem to say I MISPOKE
why are they always having to correct themselves…it is because the truth always comes out first and then have to reword “what they really meant” if they they are trying to hide who they really are.
Can you imaging being a leader with leaders around the world and then say “what I really meant was”

Posted by: mt | September 9, 2008, 1:38 am 1:38 am

Fox News also has on it’s shows Juan Williams, Mara Liason, Alan Combs, Geraldo Rivera, etc. etc.. Please tell us what ANY other network does to present both sides of any issue in a way that is fair and balanced. Until such time, you have no reason to point fingers at Fox.

Posted by: Michael | September 9, 2008, 1:38 am 1:38 am

Ron -
Gee: Evil banks took the applications of no-income of low-income individuals to homes they couldn’t hope to finance.
BUT – who submitted those applications?
GROW UP AND LEARN HOW THINGS WORK!
EVERYONE IS AT FAULT HERE!
It isn’t a partisan issue rather then a 1) mom and pop got greedy and bought or financeed their way to negative equity
and
2) banks under empowered by both parties (do I need to provide links or are you able to google on your own? )were ready and able to provide such speculative loans.
This particular issues isn’t one of partisanship rather than one of greed by ALL parties involved.
Including Mom and Pop.
Learn how things work before you criticize please.

Posted by: Alex Wolf | September 9, 2008, 1:38 am 1:38 am

Obama is creating a huge credibility problem for himself with independent, non-partisan and fair minded voters by claiming that Gov. Palin first supported the bridge to nowhere before she opposed it.
Understand that it is roughly 900 miles from Wasilla to Gravina Island where the bridge to nowhere was to be built. It is disingenuous of Obama to suggest that Palin, then mayor of Wasilla, or any mayor for that fact, can have much say on an issue 900 miles away far outside their jurisdiction. Palin’s support as the mayor of Wasilla is relevant how?? She wouldn’t really be consulted or kept in the loop on the project. Would you expect the mayor of Yulee, Fla., about 30 miles north of Jacksonville, to be consulted on a project in the Florida Keys.
So Gov. Palin opposed the bridge when she ran for and became governor. Well, as governor she would be given the all the facts and be in position to make a judgment and take action. And, that is exactly what she did. And her judgment and the actions she took in opposing the bridge were correct.
Obama is playing with fire because he is making this spurious attack on Palin himself and it’s going to come back and bit him on ass. He’s acting pretty stupid for an intelligent – Harvard education laywer.

Posted by: pmg | September 9, 2008, 1:38 am 1:38 am

Nick – as a Financial Professional, I feel the need to educate you on the tax cutting routine the GOP runs on you people every 4 years. Here is the game. The fed cuts taxes, they run up the deficit( deferred tax bill). But the most important effect of the GOP tax cut is that all 50 states raised taxes. This is evidenced by the higher gas taxes, car rental taxes, hotel taxes, all those taxes on your phone and utility bills. This is a game. You are actually more taxed after the GOP tax cut than were you before. It is a talking point that has no validity and is not based in reality.
Ask youself. We have had tax cuts under Bush so why is the economy tanking? Don’t let people tell you what to believe – do your homework. Feds lower taxes, States raise them. This game is old and tired.

Posted by: julescator | September 9, 2008, 1:39 am 1:39 am

Nick,
All independent reports show 95% of Americans will be on average $5500 better of under Obama’s tax plan.
Companies will be better off under Obama because Americans dont save they spend.
If you didnt really believe what your writing it would be funny..
Come on Nick be real.

Posted by: Kate | September 9, 2008, 1:39 am 1:39 am

Hey Nick, here’s a little something that is not so theoretical. Real world, non-partisan stuff: “In a study of the candidates’ plans made public Wednesday, the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center concluded that in contrast to Mr. McCain, “Senator Obama offers much larger tax breaks to low- and middle-income taxpayers and would increase taxes on high-income taxpayers.”
The study said, “The largest tax cuts, as a share of income, would go to those at the bottom of the income distribution,” whereas “Senator McCain’s tax cuts would primarily benefit those with very high incomes.”
My question to you: What do you have in YOUR wallet? Which side do you fall on? WHo is gonna do more for you? Then vote that way.

Posted by: Don | September 9, 2008, 1:40 am 1:40 am

Animal Farmish
True enough, although “green technolgy” is not the answer for 3rd world countries (we need to sell them DDT so they can stop dying from malaria for christ sake).
They need a real grid, with alternatives as part of it.
The government does not need to make this priority, the market is already doing that. In fact farm subsidies have ruined the american diet.
I will support tax incentives and some R&D grants (big ones even). But in typical goernment fashion, these things usually put artificial spin on the economy that is neither long sighted enough or finite enough.
However I am hopeful no matter which way the cookie crumbles, because this is a pretty horizontally arranged country no matter what anybody says, and that really is the engine that by and large propels us anyway.
On the global warming thing, I have just done a lot of digging not alot of repeating, I just have that kind of memory, kind of annoying, isn’t it (I look for the answer, not an answer – for instance if you dig you will find out that ethanol is more energy efficient via BTU consumed per BTU produced, than gasoline- the studies that most people sight are funded by the oil companies- look for the 2002 EPA/USDA report).
I’m a republican, but I don’t go along to get along
There is spin everywhere!
Good Night and Good Life!

Posted by: Thundergod | September 9, 2008, 1:40 am 1:40 am

Alex:
There are other choices. Bob Barr and Ralph Nader. Ron Paul isn’t a viable candidate but he is pushing his Constitution party (I believe).
We do have choices in principle. Just not ones that have an impact on our future unless you go with one of the two major parties.

Posted by: Animal Farmish | September 9, 2008, 1:40 am 1:40 am

Animal:
I’m with you. Particularly since I’m in NYC.
Last election, I checked the voting demographics: I was one of 130 people out of some 23,000 people who voted against the Dem party in a general election.
Please tell me that is “Free Thinking.”
I can easily vote for a 3rd party candidate without reprocussion here.
I may yet if McCain goes wrong.
But – since i’m booking it for the night, must say it was very nice speaking with you and hope to see you again!

Posted by: Alex Wolf | September 9, 2008, 1:44 am 1:44 am

I am sitting at Obama’s Campaign Headquarters. Why?

Posted by: The Hard Truth | September 9, 2008, 1:44 am 1:44 am

Wow, excellent post Thundergod:
For once I felt educated reading a post online. Where’s the link for the ethanol energy consumption versus the energy produced. I was under the impression that it wasn’t cost effective when compared to gasoline production as well as other sources like switch grass.
I’m Democratic leaning Independent.

Posted by: Animal Farmish | September 9, 2008, 1:44 am 1:44 am

Alex Wolf and Thundergod:
Take care and have a good night!

Posted by: Animal Farmish | September 9, 2008, 1:46 am 1:46 am

“The study said, “The largest tax cuts, as a share of income, would go to those at the bottom of the income distribution,” whereas “Senator McCain’s tax cuts would primarily benefit those with very high incomes.””
Bottom line; Will Barry raise taxes? Yes. Now go away.

Posted by: Mack | September 9, 2008, 1:46 am 1:46 am

Alex:
BTW, I live in a very red county. So I face your situation in the reverse most of the time.

Posted by: Animal Farmish | September 9, 2008, 1:47 am 1:47 am

Uh, Obama AND Biden voted for the bridge to nowhere….

Posted by: Bob Hunter | September 9, 2008, 1:47 am 1:47 am

Animal Farmish: You too!
See you on the flip side!
And TY: Proof that we may disagree, but can still be civil and (dare I say: Friendly! EEK) to each other!
Thanks for that reminder Animal and here’s hoping we all sleep well tonight and for the foreseeable future!
Night my friend!

Posted by: Alex Wolf | September 9, 2008, 1:49 am 1:49 am

JOHN MCCAIN FACTS
Voted with Bush 90% of the time in recent years while Bush has less than 30% approval ratings.
This leads one to assume that McCain DOES NOT vote with the people most of the time and that people want change.
This statistic also shows that John McCain is NOT CHANGE.
Voted AGAINST the Children’s Health Insurance Bill!
McCain is rated by the Children’s Defense Fund as the worst Senator in Congress for Children.
Voted AGAINST equal pay for woman (Fair Pay Act)!
Today women make $0.73 cents for every dollar a man makes doing the same job.
He voted FOR the WAR in Iraq!
McCain has said that he would be fine if the U.S. stayed in Iraq 100 years. When asked if he knew when American troops could start to return home McCain responded: “No, but that’s not too important. What’s important is the casualties in Iraq.”
McCain’s environmental record was ranked ZERO by the League of Conservation Voters last year.
Out of 535 members of congress, he missed every single key environmental vote last year.
McCain, a veteran, OPPOSED the recent bipartisan GI Bill that will provide full funding for our troops to go to the best state colleges.
The bill still passed, but it had to be packaged with the Appropriations Bill to fund the war.
Even though he himself was tortured, McCain voted AGAINST a bill banning Waterboarding
Torture is known to provide false information that the victim gives because he wants the pain to end.
vote on facts, not smears!!

Posted by: Luigi | September 9, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am

Hard Truth, Because you can’t come back and you know it. You really don’t have a creditable response to what I asked you to count because you know it’s the “hard truth”. You can’t hide from intensified Tide. Then, those who come back from that mess over there don’t get the services the deserve, and come to find out thatr MCCain voted AGAINST veteran benefits? I’m a vet and I am incensed. You gonna wave the Flag and chant USA, USA in my face and turn around to tell me that Veterans don’t really have your support to provide for them. What kind of twisted nightmare is that?

Posted by: Don | September 9, 2008, 1:52 am 1:52 am

Mack – ooops – I guess you haven’t heard that Palin has a pastor problem He said God Damed America. lol What are the odds? You really know your candidate don’t ya.

Posted by: julescator | September 9, 2008, 1:52 am 1:52 am

julescator
A number of people I have met with absolutely no common sense had MBA’s from Ivy League schools. I am not impressed with MBA, CPA, DR. etc.
What should we change? Glad you asked.
1. Do whatever it takes to gain energy independence
Use solar, wind, geo, build nuclear power plants, clean coal, drill for new oil reserves, develop shale oil, etc.
I like Pickens plan
Result will be a better trade balance which leads to a stronger dollar, adds jobs and increases revenue to US Gov.
2. Do whatever it takes to minimize ILLEGAL immigration
- Increase the number of legal immigrants and streamline the process so that it takes a few months instead of years.
- Put heavy duty fines on businesses that employ illegals and ENFORCE it.
- Withdraw funds from sanctuary cities
- Do whatever it takes to enforce the border and SUPPORT our border police.
- Improve enforcement of people who overstay visas
result will be higher wages for most workers
3. Cut earmarks altogether, cut farm subsidies and cut or change programs that aren’t working
4. Today it is ILLEGAL to ask anyone registering to vote if they are a legal citizen. I would REQUIRE proof of citizenship before a person could register.
5. Improve the care given to military families and compensate any reservist for loss of income.
6. Increase the size of the military so tours of duty overseas is less disruptive to their lives.
7. Simplify the tax code so that anyone can do it quickly and easily.
8. Increase the number of judges and courts so that justice can be done quickly.
Plus a few other odds and ends.
Best wishes to all and good night

Posted by: Dave in lv | September 9, 2008, 1:54 am 1:54 am

I will bet everyone in this room that not one of these so called Republicans knows the details of John McCain’s health care plan. Here’s where a hush comes over the room as they go to look it up! lol lol NOW that’s an issue that should concern you.

Posted by: julescator | September 9, 2008, 1:56 am 1:56 am

Sarah is real & not a confection of dismissive condescension as the MSM are —- I watched supercilious barren women from Salon & the New Republic rebuke Palin for not being a feminist because she is pro-Life.
It’s hilarious to see a neutered crone like Steinem rant on Palin for having five kids and a successful career in the REAL WORLD—-not the ethereal realms of nutjob libtard ideology.

Posted by: daveinboca | September 9, 2008, 1:56 am 1:56 am

Dave in Iv, will you run for president? I will vote for you!!!!!

Posted by: Robin | September 9, 2008, 1:58 am 1:58 am

It’s hopeless trying to tie this guy down on his policy of hope, zero policy
info is given, other than raising taxes.
If one is judged by the friends they kept, then Elliot Ness has more work to do.

Posted by: Steve | September 9, 2008, 1:58 am 1:58 am

Dave in lv: You Repubs can’t seem to get past the talking points can you. Now tell us the HOW – we are waiting for the HOW. BTW one thing I learned from your messages- common sense ain’t so common! Talking points don’t get us gas, food on the table, lower deficits, etc. The GOP only ever has talking points with no action. They admit they run campaigns they don’t worry about governing and boy is that evident!

Posted by: julescator | September 9, 2008, 2:00 am 2:00 am

BTW, don’t hand me that Surge crap any longer. If those Bozos had listened to the people on the ground, they would have had enough boots on the ground to kick enough butt so that the entire sorry affair could have been handled up front. (Anybody remember Desert Storm? 500,000 boots on the ground, a clear cut strategy to win thanks to the brilliance of Colin Powell and Stormin’ Norman, and by GOd we won!)My point, if the prosecution of the war was PROPERLY planned and executed with enough resources and more thorough risk management, threat anticipation and contingency planning, THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN NO NEED FOR A SURGE!!!!! How many of our sons and daughters are sleeping in their grades right now because of the misguided, miscalculated failed polices of Bush, Cheney (the PuppetMaster), Rusmfeld and Wolfowitz?

Posted by: Don | September 9, 2008, 2:02 am 2:02 am

Well I rest my case. Not one Repubican in this room knows McCain’s Health Care Plan because they will vote for McCain because Palin is a mooseburger eating woman. lol lol
On that note – I am off to bed.
Have a wonderful night all.

Posted by: julescator | September 9, 2008, 2:04 am 2:04 am

Don – slow down and get it together.
I don’t think anyone is sleeping in their ‘grades’ at the moment.
b/t/w – it was the Dems (Murtha, Pelosi, et al) who wanted MORE troops until Bush put them in and then it was a bad idea.

Posted by: The Hard Truth | September 9, 2008, 2:04 am 2:04 am

Little slip of the keyboard Mr. Truth. Now Slowly, answer the point.

Posted by: Don | September 9, 2008, 2:06 am 2:06 am

Brian,
Japan invade the Phillipines (Americas second base of war against japan) and Australia who had been fighting the japs. gave America free use of all our bases and land.. We never asked for help! We offered America a second base after you lost the Phillipines we had most of our troops in the UK and europe! We had our natio’s ( our national gaurd) Fighting in papa and singapore! We were bombed by Japan for offering America harbour! They stuck your ships first!
Once again we never have dialed 1 its not the Australian way!
All of Australia supported saying sorry to our native people for the crimes of the past! 98% aprovale for saying sorry !
Once again we are Americas friends because we like you guys not because we need you!
Rudds good! Obama is the best choice in my oppinion!

Posted by: Kate | September 9, 2008, 2:12 am 2:12 am

OK, all, there is one thing you all have to admit; where else can you say what you think without the news media telling what to think? I love blogs!! I may not agree with much that has been said, but I am so very glad we can say it without worrying about going to jail…or worse. Think on that when you vote this november! Good Night all and sleep well.

Posted by: Robin | September 9, 2008, 2:13 am 2:13 am

Obama’s ‘Not Exactly’s’
1.) Selma Got Me Born – NOT EXACTLY, your parents felt safe enough to have
you in 1961 – Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.
(Google ‘Obama Selma’ for his full March 4, 2007 speech and articles about
its various untruths.)
2.) Father Was A Goat Herder – NOT EXACTLY, he was a privileged, well
educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.
3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter – NOT EXACTLY, he was part of one
of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had.
4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom – NOT EXACTLY, your
cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a
legitimate election in 2007 , in Kenya . It is the first widespread violence
in decades. The current government is pro-American but Odinga wants to
overthrow it and establish Muslim Sharia law. Your half-brother, Abongo Oba
ma, is Odinga’s follower. You interrupted your New Hampshirecampaigning to
speak to Odinga on the phone. Check out the following link for verification
of that….and for more.
Obama’s cousin Odinga in Kenya ran for president and tried to get Sharia
Muslim law in place there. When Odinga lost the elections, his followers
have burned Christians’ homes and then burned men, women and children alive
in a Christian church where they took shelter.. Obama SUPPORTED his cousin
before the election process here started. Google Obama and Odinga and see
what you get. No one wants to know the truth.
5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian – NOT EXACTLY, she does her
daily Salat prayers at 5 AM, according to her own interviews. Not to
mention, Christianity wouldn’t allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1
man.
6.) My Name is African Swahili – NOT EXACTLY, your name is Arabic and
‘Baraka’ (from which Barack came) means ‘blessed’ in that language. Hussein
is also Arabic and so is Obama. Barack Hussein Obama is not half black. If
elected, he would be the first Arab-American President, not the first black
President. Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother’s side and
43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father’s side. While Barack
Hussein Obama’s father was from Kenya , his father’s family was mainly
Arabs.. Barack Hussein Obama’s father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5%
Arab (his father’s birth certificate even states he’s Arab, not African
Negro).
7.) I Never Practiced Islam – NOT EXACTLY, you practiced it daily at
school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31
years, until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.
4-3-08 Article ‘Obama was ‘quite religious in Islam’s’
8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian – NOT EXACTLY, you were
registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making
faces (check your own book). February 28, 2008. Kristoff from the New York
Times a year ago: Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call
to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed
delightfully uncalculated (it’ll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr.
Obama described the call to prayer as ‘one of the prettiest sounds on Earth
at sunset.’ This is just one example of what Pamela is talking about when
she says ‘Obama’s narrative is being altered, enhanced and manipulated to
whitewash troubling facts.’
9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian – NOT EXACTLY, not one teacher says you
could speak the language.
10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia , I Have More Foreign Experience – NOT
EXACTLY, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn’t even speak
the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.
11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs – NOT EXACTLY, except for Africa
(surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been
anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest
allies.
12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion – NOT EXACTLY, you were
quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no
mention of struggle to identify – your classmates said you were just fine.
13.) An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office – NOT EXACTLY, Ebony has
yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did,
exist.
14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life – NOT EXACTLY,
Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and
never did, exist.
15.) I Won’t Run On A National Ticket In ’08 – NOT EXACTLY, here you are,
despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by
then, and you are all about having experience first.
16.) Voting ‘Present’ is Common In Illinois Senate – NOT EXACTLY, they are
common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.
17.) Oops, I Misvoted – NOT EXACTLY, only when caught by church groups and
Democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.
18.) I Was A Professor Of Law – NOT EXACTLY, you were a senior lecturer ON
LEAVE.
19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer – NOT EXACTLY, you were a senior
lecturer ON LEAVE.
20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill – NOT EXACTLY, you didn’t
write it, introduce it, change it, or create it.
21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass – NOT EXACTLY, it took just 14 days
from start to finish.
22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill – NOT EXACTLY, your bill was rejected by
your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation – mainly
because of your Nuclear donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.
23.) I Have Released My State Records – NOT EXACTLY, as of March, 2008,
state bills you sponsore d or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all
the special interests pork hidden within.
24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess – NOT EXACTLY, you were
part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens . You failed to
mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.
25.) My Economics Bill Will Help
America – NOT EXACTLY, your 111 economic
policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU
voted against your own bill.
26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois – NOT EXACTLY, even your own
supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.
27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year – NOT EXACTLY, they were not
YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow
Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.
28.) No One on my campaig n contacted Canada about NAFTA – NOT EXACTLY,
the Canadian Governm ent issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.
29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism – NOT EXACTLY, you missed the Iran Resolution
vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction off Israel .
30.) I Want All Votes To Count – NOT EXACTLY, you said let the delegates
decide.
31.) I Want Americans To Decide – NOT EXACTLY, you prefer caucuses that
limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate
during small windows of time.
32.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate – NOT EXACTLY, you passed 26,
most of which you didn’t write yourself.
33.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics – NOT EXACTLY, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.
34.) I Don’t Take PAC Money – NOT EXACTLY, you take loads of it.
35.) I don’t Have Lobbyists – NOT EXACTLY, you have over 47 lo bbyists, and counting.
36.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad – NOT EXACTLY, your
own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.
37. I Have Always Been Against Iraq – NOT EXACTLY, you weren’t in office
to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time.
38.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care – NOT EXACTLY, your
plan leaves us all to pay for the 15,000,000 who don’t have to buy it.

Posted by: The Doctor | September 9, 2008, 2:17 am 2:17 am

Here we are, just a few days from the 9/11 anniversary, and Obama is championing the rights of terrorists. Guess we know whose side HE is on.

Posted by: RKH | September 9, 2008, 2:17 am 2:17 am

he is scared to death!!!!!
game, set, match, mccain/palin.

Posted by: pp | September 9, 2008, 2:22 am 2:22 am

Dear god the lies.. Between Obama and his hate talking priest and Pain who supports succession (thats breaking away from the Untied States IE civil war for you uneducated) I don’t know what to believe. I do believe that whoever steals this election if they don’t fix this country I am packing up and moving to Australia…

Posted by: Concerned | September 9, 2008, 2:25 am 2:25 am

Mack,
I hope the 1400 australia troops that are leaving today for afgainistan because your country asked us for more help! Dont see what you just wrote.
Does you computer have wifi ? Tech made in Australia.
Do you drive a rear wheel drive car from either Pontiac, Chevrolet or Ford there made in Australia.
Australia ranks higher in education, science, health, maths than the USA.
We play the biggest role of any nation in NASA. From building half of your first SAT to buiding Nasa new scram jet (made in australia)!
Please fight with truth.
Australia ranks higher then America in nations others trust!
Facts please!
We are your friends because we like you! Maybe not you but we know you are not most Americans!

Posted by: Kate | September 9, 2008, 2:25 am 2:25 am

Maverick small-government conservative Sarah Palin charged Alaskan taxpayers $16,941 to spend 312 nights of her first 19 months as governor at her own house in Wasilla. Governor Palin has an official mansion in the capital, Juneau, but she’s happier making Alaska’s citizens pay her $54.33 a night to sleep in her own bed.

Posted by: matt | September 9, 2008, 2:25 am 2:25 am

The people who live in the lower 48 know so little about Alaska, its people and its problems. The size of Alaska is almost 1/4 the size if the south 48. One can not drive from Fairbanks to Juneau or from Wasilla to Ketchikan. Getting around is expensive in that one must fly commercial, or if lucky by private plane. All this land mass cost money to manage. Alaska sends three times sends more money back to Washington from sale of its natural resources than it gets from all of its earmark funds. Bet Illinois does not send $1,000 from sale of natural resources and one must wonder how much Uncle Sam send back to Illinois. Wasilla, AK is a beautiful small town and if I could I would spend my summers there for the climate and natural beauty.

Posted by: Mary | September 9, 2008, 2:26 am 2:26 am

It’s strange but the last thing Obama sounds like is presidential when he whines and shows his pique at not being the ‘Chosen One’ The presidency is not for sniveling wimps Mr.’O’
Obama claims to be an ‘Agent of Change’ His reaction to Sarah’s entry and the change it represents, instead of conveying a cool composure, has shown how weak & tentative he would be as our president. Meanwhile McCain in his acceptance speech attacks BOTH the Republican & Democrat establishment, and in one of his better speeches so far, began the process of forging a covenant of trust with moderates and independents, over his desire to drain the ‘swamp’ that Washington politics has become. Obama has campaigned as an agent of change, yet brings on board an insider that has a zero maverick rating. Obama has yet to demonstrate a proclivity to champion bold change. Where is the narrative of Obama taking-on established power bases. Chicago ward-boss style politics are among the most corrupt in the nation, and the record shows that Obama sought only to peacefully co-exist with that fetid corruption. McCain represents reform and both He & Palin have a track record that establishes that they have not only stood-up to corruption, but more importantly, have taken Leadership Point on corruption within the GOP itself. I’ll gladly take McCain/Palin’s genuine (REFORM) over Obama/Biden’s ersatz (CHANGE) every-time…

Posted by: AMR | September 9, 2008, 2:27 am 2:27 am

It’s that thing on his nose that grows larger with every lie and obfuscation he says; there was not anything there before the primaries started; and since McCain has started to resonate with his campaign, it’s been going down hill for Mr. Obama.

Posted by: whitneymuse | September 9, 2008, 2:28 am 2:28 am

Actually Palin was for the Bridge to Nowhere during her run for Governor and until it became ridiculed by Congress as pork. Then she changed her mind. Well, more like she had no choice because the costs that Alaska would have to pay kept ballooning and they knew they couldn’t get more money from the Federal government.
The idea that she saw the Bridge to Nowhere as pork and changed her mind because of ideological issues is ridiculous.
Alaska is, by all accounts, a welfare state. They tax oil companies and give the money to Alaskans who didn’t earn it. They pay everyone a yearly stipend just to live there and they’re constantly giving them money for the rise in the price of gas and other services.
Mind you, they pretty much have to do this. They have no real industry outside of oil and natural gas, very little agriculture and no manufacturing. But they have Big Oil and they treat it like a piggy bank.

Posted by: johnTX | September 9, 2008, 2:29 am 2:29 am

Australians are some of the best people on earth and are welcome on this and any other blog they wish.
They have helped the US time and again at great risk and with all too little thanks.
We may not agree and they may have a different version of English, but MANY of us value their comments. I’m not sure if the English would really approve of our version either.
Best wishes

Posted by: Dave in lv | September 9, 2008, 2:31 am 2:31 am

Who are “these people”?
Who exactly is Obama talking about????
Pathetic.

Posted by: Mia | September 9, 2008, 2:33 am 2:33 am

For those of you that don’t know why McCain voted against the Veteran’s Bill, I will explain. The bill that was on the floor gave a soldier with 6 months duty the same benefits as someone who had served for 30 years. That is what McCain was against. He believed it should work like any other retirement. The longer you in the more the benefits. That’s what he voted against. The reports have a way of hiding the truth these days. They are trying everything they can to make McCain look bad.

Posted by: Barbara | September 9, 2008, 2:39 am 2:39 am

Best wishes to you Dave in lv.
I know Americans are good people.
I have loved all my trips and friendships I have made there!
I hope you guys get it right this election!
8 years of bad leadership has made America hated and Australia hated for being your friends. We know you guys are good even if your government has been far from that!

Posted by: Kate | September 9, 2008, 2:41 am 2:41 am

Sarah Palin doesn’t get it.
On Monday, Palin claimed that lending giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac had “gotten too big and too expensive to the taxpayers.” Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are private companies NOT funded by taxpayers.
McCain is more of the same. Vote Obama.

Posted by: thinkUSA | September 9, 2008, 2:42 am 2:42 am

Well, considering we’ve been in Iraq now longer than we fought in World War 2, I imagine giving vets who have had 6 years on a battlefield the same rewards we gave veterans of WW2 a good idea.
In fact, I think giving vets a free ride for college is always a good idea.
Now, the real reason why McCain was against the GI Bill has nothing to do with “fairness” and everything to do with the fact that he was worried that if we dangled a goodie bag in front of soldiers, they wouldn’t re-enlist after their tour was over. With recruitment down, he was worried that we wouldn’t have enough soldiers to fight our wars.
Now on one hand that is a good reason from a pragmatic standpoint. From a moral standpoint, keeping soldiers poor so they have no choice but to stay in the military is pretty bad.

Posted by: johnTX | September 9, 2008, 2:52 am 2:52 am

Sorry ThinkUSA but Fannie & Freddie are both GSE’s. That stands for Government Sponsored Entities. They were both chartered by congress and benefit from subidies and tax breaks. They also both benefited from an implicit guarantee from the Federal Govt which is why they were still able to issue debt and preferred equity at a time when their balance sheets were imploding. They were never true “private” companies and as such have always cost us taxpayers a lot of money. Now they are costing us even more. They were and are too big and they were too expensive.

Posted by: leinies02 | September 9, 2008, 2:53 am 2:53 am

leinies02
Fannie & Freddie had cost the taxper $0
It is a stockholder-owned corporation authorized to make loans and loan guarantees.
The federal takeover of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac was announced on September 7, 2008, in a joint appearance by the U.S. Secretary of the Treasury, Henry Paulson, and the director of the recently-established Federal Housing Finance Agency (FHFA), James B. Lockhart III. At the news conference, Lockhart made public his decision to place two government sponsored enterprises (GSEs) conducting mortgage financial operations, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, into conservatorship conducted by the FHFA
Palin was wrong! Her own team has said so..
For you to argue anything else is um…..

Posted by: Kate | September 9, 2008, 3:01 am 3:01 am

“Obama is being rapidly revealed as an empty suit, a self-aggrandizing pole climber who has no attributes except ambition.
A change bringer? Ha, he is a product of the chicago daly machine and knows how to go along to get along. His political accomplishments are insignificant, and he’s never run anything, not a business or a government, nothing. Oh, perhaps he was too busy writing books about himself.”

Posted by: Susan | September 9, 2008, 3:04 am 3:04 am

Some of the GSEs, such as Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, are privately owned but publicly chartered

Posted by: Kate | September 9, 2008, 3:05 am 3:05 am

BO talks and talks, but never says anything. Then everyone else has to explain what they hope he said. BO stinks.

Posted by: Politicus | September 9, 2008, 3:05 am 3:05 am

Susan,
How is he an empty suit ?
So far besides FISA he has been completly honest and clear in his plans ?
McCain used to be seen as a good guy but has changed all his views on everything good that he stood for!
Palin is a stunt! How do you get woman voters they asked and then found a woman! Like ever woman is going to vote for her when everthingabout her is anti woman!
They didnt vet palin and in the end it will all come out!

Posted by: Kate | September 9, 2008, 3:14 am 3:14 am

I’ll give you another President who never had any “executive” experience: Abraham Lincoln.
In fact, Lincoln’s experience pretty much mirrors Obama’s except Lincoln was in the House and not the Senate.
So maybe you don’t want to elect Obama because of “executive experience”, but then I imagine you would have completely ignored Lincoln who served in the House for less than 2 years before he ran.
Of course, Lincoln was kicked out of the Republican party and ran for his second term under the National Union party – a party of ex-Republicans and Northern Democrats, so maybe you consider him a turncoat anyway.

Posted by: johnTX | September 9, 2008, 3:14 am 3:14 am

The liberals Second Coming is coming in second because the Hope-nosis is finally wearing off.

Posted by: mr sender | September 9, 2008, 3:15 am 3:15 am

Politicus,
McCain’s is a brand of toliet paper here in Australia…
And John’s middle name is Sidney… Its a girls name!

Posted by: Kate | September 9, 2008, 3:17 am 3:17 am

mr sender,
Winning one poll after a convention is nothing.. In the race for collage electorial votes you know the thing that counts Barack Obama is thumping McCain.

Posted by: Kate | September 9, 2008, 3:21 am 3:21 am

Is it true that Gov. Sarah Palin secured the most earmarks for Alaska than any other state? Why don’t we hear more about that? Afraid to go after the Queen of Earmarks?

Posted by: Tom | September 9, 2008, 3:23 am 3:23 am

I think it’s wonderful our Australian allies are focused on the American election. Now who’s at the head of your government? Someone who’s concerned about the environment and limits your use of carbon-based toilet paper? And Sidney can now Waltz with Matilda?

Posted by: Politicus | September 9, 2008, 3:25 am 3:25 am

Tom,
You asked:
Is it true that Gov. Sarah Palin secured the most earmarks for Alaska than any other state?
Why don’t we hear more about that? Afraid to go after the Queen of Earmarks?
YES
ABC’s owners Disney is now made up of all Republican board members.
Disney is hoping to be the new FOX!

Posted by: Kate | September 9, 2008, 3:29 am 3:29 am

Kate,
During Obama’s first debate, when he’s frantically looking for the Teleprompter and then raises his hand and say’s “present” then maybe you’ll wake up!

Posted by: mr sender | September 9, 2008, 3:34 am 3:34 am

Politicus,
I think as an ally we are interested in your election. Who you vote in may mean the loss of life for Australian troops! You voted in Bush and Austalians die in IRAQ and Afganistan.
Our PM has done many good things!

Posted by: Kate | September 9, 2008, 3:43 am 3:43 am

I love how folks here quote nonsense they’ve read on blogs such as the Syrians have provide more data than interrogation. Nonsense. You have no idea. None whatsoever. 99% of the people who comment on these stories are so far out of the loop, they’d burst into tears if they knew the facts.
I’ll clue you in on a couple:
1. Obama is fine gentleman, though inexperienced who will NOT win this election unless he sells out some of his base support. He may choose not to. . BUT…(take it easy) he will win the next election if he chooses to run with that same sacrifice, which he will. So Obama supporters, just relax. Your time will come. Consider this run, seasoning.
2. There will be a MAJOR press release in less than 30 days regarding a particular person who has been ‘a fugitive’ for some time, say, since 9/11. Can you guess who?
3. And this is a big one. The Israelis will destroy Iran’s nuclear weapons facility with the covert support of the U.S. and..hold on to your hats..the Iranians.
These you take to the bank. Oh, and by the way, ‘rough interrogation” does work. 22 Terrorist acts against the United States and another 15 against democratic nations have been thwarted by information gleaned during what’s called ‘hard’ interviews. That’s why the US, Japan, NATO, China all continue to conduct this type of information gathering. It works.

Posted by: schizoidman | September 9, 2008, 3:45 am 3:45 am

Kate, I’m sure Kevin Rudd, your PM, has done many good things. Being one day ahead on things is one of them. Being a good-looking bloke, young, inspiring, enthusiatic, and calling for change – hey just like Obama! You should be proud he had your military turn tail and run last November. Hey, just like Obama wants!

Posted by: Politicus | September 9, 2008, 3:52 am 3:52 am

As a current member of the US military, it’s very pretty clear why McCaine didn’t support the new G.I. Bill. It will make it much more comfortable to get an undergraduate degree and allow more sevicemembers with families to do so. The argument that those with 6 months get the same benefit as those with 30 years is totally false. Even if it was true so what? I’ve done nearly 10 years and actually paid into the old MGIB while the new one is free (Other than the next 2-4 years of your life of course)

Posted by: Pleas | September 9, 2008, 3:55 am 3:55 am

People keep asking Obama about Ayers, Rezko, Wright. How about we ask McCain about his relationship to Gordon Liddy?
Do you know who he is? Right, he was involved in Watergate years back. He masterminded the initial break in at DNC Office in Washington. He was convicted of burglary. And he did not also regret of his participation in the Watergate scandal. John and Gordon are really close friends you know, dates back from the 1980s. He used to contribute to McCain’s campaign. He’s now aligned with Fox News.
That’s why the GOP isn’t directly questioning Obama about his ties to Ayers and Rezko. Liddy is more damaging to McCain’s candidacy than Ayers and Rezko to Obama’s.

Posted by: Mitch | September 9, 2008, 3:56 am 3:56 am

Obama is going DOWN!!! He’s a vapid lightweight full of empty rhetoric and it is becoming more and more obvious to people by the day.
The latest thing is he’s talking about how because the economy is fragile it may not be a good idea to raise taxes. What a chump. If you FINALLY admit that lower taxes are better for the economy how the hell did you ever have the nerve and intellectual dishonesty to talk about raising them?

Posted by: Steve | September 9, 2008, 3:58 am 3:58 am

Politicus,
Australia didnt cut an run as you say we still have our navy and airforce there we removed our ground combat troops so Iraq will stand up and do it themselves!
Their were no WMD’s the war was a mistake! Like Obama… Prime Minister Rudd said so before we went there! We should have listen then.
Iraq is America’s biggest forgein policy mistake ever. Even Bill O Riely admits that!
Under Rudd interests rates have gone down wages have gone up and the economy has grown!

Posted by: Kate | September 9, 2008, 4:03 am 4:03 am

Make an ad of these people who want to go against the constitution!

Posted by: jannike | September 9, 2008, 4:05 am 4:05 am

Politicus Ayers was found not guilty!
Ayers conection to Obama has been viewed by everyone and the only one’s who care are sean hanity and his robots!

Posted by: Kate | September 9, 2008, 4:12 am 4:12 am

So Kate, our good ally. If Australia is now independent of the USA, why are you so concerned about the American election? You said: “Who you vote in may mean the loss of life for Australian troops!” Apparently not, as Rudd withdrew your ‘ground’ troops while your Navy will continue to fight off the Al Qaida Navy. OR maybe your hoping with Obama elected, you can withdraw your Navy to fight the Muslim Terrorists in Indonesia to keep safe for Australian tourists. Please…
During WWII when MacArthur landed in Australia, he couldn’t find an entire Australian Tank Battalion. But your current modern-day token support is appreciated. It’s the thought that counts, afterall.

Posted by: Politicus | September 9, 2008, 4:16 am 4:16 am

Just because McCain is really, really old doesn’t make him any less vapid. He is basically saying THE SAME BS the president was saying 8 years ago. How has that worked out? I’ll never understand folks that make the same mistakes over and over, yet expect a different outcome. Perhaps this current mess is how they like it

Posted by: Pleas | September 9, 2008, 4:20 am 4:20 am

Who wouldn’t be afraid of an entity with lots of big guns that over the last 6 years or so has demonstrated an almost total lack of judgement on when and how to use them?

Posted by: Pleas | September 9, 2008, 4:26 am 4:26 am

Kate, Ayers and his future wife, Dorhn, turned themselves in to the Feds.
“but all charges were dropped as a result of alleged ‘government legal misconduct.’ ”
Hey that means he never did anything wrong when he was the leader of the Weather Underground, now doesn’t it?
Puh-leaze… If you get a speeding ticket while driving on the right side of the road and Mad Max wrote your name down incorrectly on the citation and charges are dropped because of it, does that mean you didn’t speed on the wrong side of the road?
Ayers was quoted at age 50 that he was unrepentant and wished he could have done more (domestic terrorism). The Weather Underground claimed credit for 20 bombings. Sure wish Ayers had been a suicide bomber….Barack Obama wishes it as well..

Posted by: Politicus | September 9, 2008, 4:29 am 4:29 am

OBAMA HATERS…
I’m not sure why you hate so much. This is the one chance we have to get out of the deep hole we’ve been since the 9/11 event. Senator OBAMA has made GREAT points, he is a very smart candidate, rational, intelligent, and is extremely knowledgeable in LAW. He WILL Exercise good judgement, and even though he may increase taxes for some, the overall situation of the country will improve. I’m asking you to re-think what you believe and to look up at Barack’s thoughts and ideas… think about it… have you ever though what would happen if you had an idea and thought things could happen and ran for it? I have. And now Senator BARACK OBAMA is running against the large media chaings and candidates with unlimited funding but at the end it’s worth try a good mind.
Think About it.
OBAMA 08 PRESIDENT

Posted by: CHRIS | September 9, 2008, 4:36 am 4:36 am

1976 or 1977, with federal charges against both Ayers and Dohrn were dropped due to prosecutorial misconduct.
The were never found guilty of any crime.
Ayers is now a professor in the College of Education at the University of Illinois at Chicago, known for his work in school reform.

Posted by: Kate | September 9, 2008, 4:40 am 4:40 am

Hey dear Kate. Don’t get angry. It was Rudd and Labor which claimed Howard was beholden to Bush over the Iraq War.
“During the Australian election campaign, Mr Rudd promised to make Australia more independent of the US and pull combat troops out of Iraq.”
Independent! Get it? So why are you concerned about who gets elected here if Rudd has now made Australia Independent of the US?
And why are you upset over an American’s opinion about Australia politicians while you are making yours about America’s? [grin]

Posted by: Politicus | September 9, 2008, 4:41 am 4:41 am

“Thanks but…” I’ll just charge the state of Alaska for living in my own home. Sarah Palin
In a humble gesture to show her commitment to pork busting Palin charged the state of Alaska to pay her over 16,000 dollars for staying in her own home instead of the governors home.
Palin brought the pork back…right to her own back door.
Instead of living in Juneau Palin not only thought it beneath her to live there she felt she ought to be reimbursed for the inconvenience.
The designer clothes wearing, I’m better than you Palin seems to want it both ways. Talk like a fiscal conservative but live like a fat cat on taxpayer money.
The truth about Palin is starting to come out.

Posted by: Sarahs better than YOU!! | September 9, 2008, 4:49 am 4:49 am

I point out Obama like Rudd said the war in Iraq was a mistake history proved them both right!
Rudd has made interest rates lower wages up and the economy growing!
Just like Obama will do for you guys!

Posted by: Kate | September 9, 2008, 4:53 am 4:53 am

Why do we debate so heatedly? Nothing will change because of it. The race, as it stands, is such that if one prefers a candidate over another then one will continue to do so. Whatever proof you show a diehard McCain/Palin supporter that Obama is a good choice, they will splatter you with each of his missteps since highschool, and vice versa. Realize that the popular vote doesn’t really mean anything, and that screaming through text on a glowing box won’t do anything but raise your blood pressure and make you bitter. So what if other people think other things?

Posted by: GEEZ | September 9, 2008, 4:54 am 4:54 am

HAHAHAHA god republicans sound so stupid. “Obama friends with terrorist” and Bush hasnt done his share of bombing people. Um Hello please tell my Cheney wasnt even mentioned at the Republican Convention? Maybe Palin can speak in tongues to Iran? Same old rhetoric. Please without using the words McCain or Palin explain the past 8 years. Oh and I was in the military for 8 years and I’m a disabled vet so please dont try to fly that flag we are americans crap! This whole war on Terrorism was a marketing campaign to broaden the powers of the Executive Branch and just when you question their leadership boom the terror threat level got raised. Fear! Oh my you might get bombed at the country club after playing 18 holes. Come one and wake up and stop being so freaking gulible.

Posted by: Doug | September 9, 2008, 4:56 am 4:56 am

She fought the corrupt system!! So she could take it over and grab what she could.
Don’t forget the 44,000 she charged the state to “transport” her children, and husband, back and forth from the capital to their home in Wasilla.
I’m sure it was always “official state business”.
Yes, Palin is turning out to be a bigger liar than McCain is.

Posted by: Eddie G. | September 9, 2008, 5:00 am 5:00 am

Politicus
Australia dosent rely on the US!
We pull our own weight!
Ive lived in the US and I love America!
I hate people like you that lie so readily and insult anyone who points out their BS.
Palin and McCain lie an lie and lie and lead the world down the wrong path!
Obama is the smart choice thats who I will be hoping for!

Posted by: Kate | September 9, 2008, 5:03 am 5:03 am

anyone that has to stand on a stage and tell you what they did and brag about it is hiding something. Its called a smoke screen. And if I hear another comment about a bridge to nowhere or lipstick on farm animals or pets im going to puke. She is eye candy for the republicans.
Please it was so shameless to think american people are stupid to just fall in line cause she was a woman. Oh wait judging by some of your comments on here you are stupid enough to believe. Oh well. IT WILL BE THE SAME IF YOU VOTE MCCAIN. WAKE UP!!!!!!

Posted by: Doug | September 9, 2008, 5:04 am 5:04 am

Obama said: “I can no more disown (Jeremiah Wright) than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother – a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe.”
“The point I was making was not that Grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn’t. But she is a typical white person…”

Posted by: Samantha | September 9, 2008, 5:20 am 5:20 am

1. Barack has explained that whats at state here is to important to wait! I except that!
2. He hasnt change on guns or abortion… Ill give you fisa he did change on that!
3. Is an out and out lie you need to do some research becuase that complete BS.
Yawn…
Barack Obama 08

Posted by: Kate | September 9, 2008, 5:25 am 5:25 am

Samantha,
Everyones heard about wright and obama.. We dont care !!!

Posted by: Kate | September 9, 2008, 5:29 am 5:29 am

Habias corpus is a right under the Constitution for those charged with crimes …NOT for our enemy during war.
Obama and the Democrats wants our enemy to have Constitutional rights?..
Moranda rights? 2nd Amendment rights too? Freedom of Religion to Islamic terrorist who believe it is their religious duty to kill us?

Posted by: neville | September 9, 2008, 5:34 am 5:34 am

It’s interesting to note that none of Obama’s ancestors were involved in American history as slaves, but rather were Muslims from Kenya where the slave trade was nonexistent. Further, Obama is half white through his mother. How this identifies with “African-Americana” is beyond acceptance, and can only be explained through a 20+ year tenure of social promotion in “Rev.” Wright’s church from within that black immoral community. This also explains why the Obamatrons don’t give a rat’s behind about illegal immigration, and allows Hispanics to over-run their hoods. Think about that the next time you women and homosexuals feel weak at the knees, just before fainting…

Posted by: Russ | September 9, 2008, 5:35 am 5:35 am

Obamas record in Illinois reflects a list of legislation that handcuffed the police and specifically gave undo protections to criminals…
Obama appears to want to use the same mentality on a national level and extend protections to our enemy worldwide and handcuff our military.

Posted by: neville | September 9, 2008, 5:38 am 5:38 am

Samantha,
Palin is/was an admited pothead for years!
So what ?? So you cant use that against Obama !

Posted by: Kate | September 9, 2008, 5:39 am 5:39 am

McCain wasn’t the boogeyman in 2004 when the DNC wanted him to run as a Democrat. Palin and Hillary have much more in common than just being women. Both fight for the underdog. Both show themselves as more concerned for their constituents than in pleasing their parties. Both love and want to protect our children. Want something better for them. Both are Patriots that care about this country and want to protect her. Both, in fact all three Hillary, Palin, and McCain have stood up the corruption within their parties. Hillary faced it down every single day of the primaries. Now you can throw out this she was for the Bridge to Nowhere before she was against it. What that tells me is she was a RESPONSIBLE politician. The bridge to nowhere was going on long before Sarah came into office. This tells me she was for it because she wasn’t on the “In/Knowing” once she got in and found it was not feasible for the tax payers of Alaska she said thanks, but no thanks. Instead of going ahead with a mistake, she stood up and did the right/responsible thing for her constituents. I supported Hillary, I will now vote for McCain and Palin. No longer will I blindly follow behind either party or any candidate. Country FIRST.

Posted by: Diana | September 9, 2008, 5:41 am 5:41 am

Nevil,
During his 2004 general election campaign for U.S. Senate, police representatives credited Obama for his active engagement with police organizations.
He also recived full support of the state police durring his term as a state senator!

Posted by: Kate | September 9, 2008, 5:45 am 5:45 am

Samantha,
Puma is a republican ran stunt look up its founder he was linked to john mccains campaign then forced to quit.
Yes my spelling sucks!
I love HRC she is a great woman..
Barack is great too
I dont think much of Rice… I havent see her do much she flys to alot of places but never seems to get anything done!
Palin is a political stunt like they stick a woman in our face and we will all be so happy and not look at her and her record… Us girls are not that stupid!
Your right my spelling sucks Ive been blogging to long!

Posted by: Kate | September 9, 2008, 5:52 am 5:52 am

Samantha,
50 STATES and not 57
There were 57 contests in the Democratic Primary nomination! Barack explained his gaffe the same day! If you listened ?

Posted by: Kate | September 9, 2008, 6:04 am 6:04 am

Jack Kennedy
Knowing that McCain And Palin are bad for America doesnt make anyone an American hater.
Voting Obama is a vote for the love of the Constitution and America !
Obama 08

Posted by: Kate | September 9, 2008, 6:09 am 6:09 am

neville,
The american people will stand up there will be no palin mccain victory!
Bush should have brought every American a bunker then maybe McCain would have a hope!

Posted by: Kate | September 9, 2008, 6:14 am 6:14 am

Obama calling anyone shameless is just… well… shameless…

Posted by: Mr l3itchy | September 9, 2008, 6:18 am 6:18 am

Neville I agree.
2008: DEMS chose the wrong person as their nominee. The nominee chose the wrong person as VP
What the DNC will claim:
We lost this election due to America’s rampant threads of racism and the Republican’s exploitation of women.
The Truth:
The DNC is racist and sexist and has become the very thing it used to hate. The DNC has taken a socialist exclusionary stance.
New DNC Slogan:
You can count on us… To lose

Posted by: Samantha | September 9, 2008, 6:18 am 6:18 am

” The surge has succeeded beyond our wildest dreams” Barak Obama to Orielly
“Life begins at conception” Joe Biden on Meet the Press.
How do you libs feel about you candidates taking the McCain/Palin positions on those issues?

Posted by: neville | September 9, 2008, 6:21 am 6:21 am

Samantha
Palin smoked pot for years she says it herself! Her husband did too! Her daughters baby’s daddy says he smokes pot and does pills with his girlfriend on his myspace page!
So whats your point ? Hmmm

Posted by: Kate | September 9, 2008, 6:24 am 6:24 am

Hrm so since we haven’t caught them there should be no issue with regard to their treatment. Nice that that one is settled Mr. Black Liberation Theology.

Posted by: Teddy Atlas | September 9, 2008, 6:25 am 6:25 am

I think the fact that Obama began his career in the home of admitted terrorist William Ayers says all you need to know. He wouldn’t even bother to catch him, unless of course he wanted to be their friend.

Posted by: ggg | September 9, 2008, 6:26 am 6:26 am

Obama is an empty suit. A virtual affirmative action candidate. He’s never showed anything remotely like political courage. OTOH, McCain has frequently pissed off Republicans when he thinks it’s right to break with them and Palin took on the Republican establishment in Alaska almost single-handedly. Obama? Just the product of a political machine who, in one of his books, admitted to specifically searching for Marxist professors while in college. He’s a vile Marxist coward and nothing more.

Posted by: gggg | September 9, 2008, 6:29 am 6:29 am

Jack Kennedy-
Real Americans will not elect a radical.
Better luck next time, liberals. Next.
What exactly makes you a “Real American” besides where you were born?

Posted by: Pleas | September 9, 2008, 6:34 am 6:34 am

” Everyones heard about wright and obama.. We dont care !!! ”
That’s why you’re going to lose. When you don’t care about the racialist past of your candidate, that’s what happens.
Good luck with your affirmative action candidate. Maybe he can go back to that community organizing one day. And what is a community organizer? Obama doesn’t know either.
“When classmates in college asked me just what it was that a community organizer did, I couldn’t answer them directly. Instead, I’d pronounce on the need for change. Change in the White House, where Reagan and his minions were carrying on their dirty deeds. Change in the Congress, compliant and corrupt. Change in the mood of the country, manic and self-absorbed. Change won’t come from the top, I would say. Change will come from a mobilized grass roots.”
- Barrack Obama, Dreams from My Father
If the Marxist, terrorist lover can’t even answer this question, why should anyone regard this activity as anything other than a way to boost his political career?

Posted by: ggg | September 9, 2008, 6:35 am 6:35 am

Diana,
have you ever heard of cutting off your nose to spite your face? If you and all the others that share your view were genuine Hillary’s supporters and really cared about your country you would actually use your head to reason and not let your bile take over it.

Posted by: goodbadandugly | September 9, 2008, 6:43 am 6:43 am

i don’t envy the american people in this years election considering they have to choose between just continuing the chaos of the last 8 years (McCain/Palin) and some vague idea of “change” (Obama/Biden). being a foreigner, i would just hope that the discussion leading towards your decision would be more intelligent and less emotional.

Posted by: looseantz | September 9, 2008, 6:44 am 6:44 am

How could I FORGET???
“McCain has never mentioned my Muslim faith.”
Obama, admitting if finally? After years of pretense???
Hehe.

Posted by: ggg | September 9, 2008, 6:45 am 6:45 am

“McCain has never mentioned my Muslim faith.”
I kinda didn’t get the big deal/ McCain didn’t mention his muslim faith,since that isn’t his faith. Unlike some folks he took the high road instead of “the insinuate/rinse/repeat” method of many of his supporters

Posted by: Pleas | September 9, 2008, 6:54 am 6:54 am

The truly frightening thing about this is reading the comments. The vitriol and hatred on both sides is absolutely amazing. It’s no wonder that election campaigns have become so stupid – they merely serve the stupidity of the electorate.
Personally, I don’t care about Palin’s baby or the Bridge to Nowhere or McCain’s POW service. I don’t care if Obama had a dinner/fundraiser with Ayers or had a lunatic preacher. You are all getting distracted by crap – flag pins, babies, fist bumps, preachers. It’s totally nuts.
I want specific proposals from McCain-Palin about how they will go about shrinking government while ensuring that people can earn a decent living and have access to decent healthcare. I want to hear them articulate their ideas about the role of government in people’s lives. I hate that Palin’s selection has re-ignited the social culture wars.
From Obama-McCain, I want to know how they will pay for everything that they are proposing. It looks great on paper, but someone has to pay the bill.
There are many things that are broken right now. The housing crisis and the blow to financial services is still playing itself out. Unemployment is up and it is likely the economy is in recession. In spite of a seven year bull run in the economy, families are bringing home less money than they were seven years ago. Health care is out of reach for too many people. While the war in Iraq seems (I hope) to be winding down to a satisfactory conclusion, the war in Afghanistan is heating up – what is going to happen there?
There are serious issues that require serious discussion. This election isn’t a teevee reality show. Stop treating it like it is.

Posted by: Erinsiobhan | September 9, 2008, 7:10 am 7:10 am

Amazing what being down 10 points will do to Obama. Typical liberal whiner. “These people”!! Shut up. Nobobody cares anymore Obama. You are losing and losing big. The American people finally figured you out and they don’t like what they see.
Go cry on Oprah’s couch.

Posted by: Jim | September 9, 2008, 7:12 am 7:12 am

Samantha,
Australian news paper The Age (Australia most trusted) asked her staff wether it was true or not the said they have no comment either way.
Ask for the names of the guests with palin at the time the refused to identify them asked wether she was at the resturant staff confirmed she was.
The first report of the story was first printed printed before she became the republican vp nominee!
But your point is taken it is not straight from her mouth to my ears like the others!

Posted by: Kate | September 9, 2008, 7:12 am 7:12 am

Obama has been unmasked. I wonder if “these people” are the same people Michelle was referring to when she kept saying “they”. By the way where has Michelle been hiding?

Posted by: Lori | September 9, 2008, 7:14 am 7:14 am

Obama and Biden both voted to provide funds for the “Bridge to Nowhere”.
Obama has got to be the biggest whiner and complainer ever to run for President.

Posted by: Zank | September 9, 2008, 7:14 am 7:14 am

Shameless is correct after Palin has exploited her son’s disability and her teenage daughter’s pregnancy for political benefit. Take them on and teach them the Constitution. McSame and Palin have no respect for the Constitution, not at all, they are warmongers and fearmongers, not this time around, no more 4 years of failled republican policies inside and outside. God save America from McPalin. God bless America and God bless Obama. OBAMA/BIDEN08.

Posted by: BKMC | September 9, 2008, 7:16 am 7:16 am

You dumb Libs, please keep bashing and making fun of Gov. Palin. 20% swing of white women to McCain. Please, please keep it up. You Libs are the dumbest group of people in the world. You should not be able to vote due to your stupidity. Your same old insults are getting old. Why not think up some new ones or call the DNC for new talking points. This race is becoming a punch line on the Dem side.

Posted by: eagle1 | September 9, 2008, 7:20 am 7:20 am

Oh…and by the way, all those whiners who keep saying “McSame” or “4 more years of Bush” ??…..nobody in this country believes that for a minute.
McCain-Palin is about as FAR AWAY from Bush-Cheney as you can get. They are THE CHANGE WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR, except they don’t go telling the whole world this. THE ONE is about to be the one sitting at home voting “present” in the senate in 2009.
Nobama
Keep your change.

Posted by: Jim | September 9, 2008, 7:21 am 7:21 am

What is shameless is Obama’s relentless post hoc refashioning of the facts — and equally relentless lying about it. What revulsive is the press, such as ABC News, aiding and abetting his scam.

Posted by: Mhu Cao | September 9, 2008, 7:23 am 7:23 am

ynot4tony2,
Can you show me the record of Barack Obama and Biden voting for the bridge to no where ? LOL

Posted by: Kate | September 9, 2008, 7:27 am 7:27 am

Obama campaign is a train wreck. He’s come undone.

Posted by: Jim | September 9, 2008, 7:29 am 7:29 am

What is really funny is Hillary is the only Lib showing any class in the Gov. Palin pick. She wants to talk issues, you idiots want to throw insults. You moron libs really blew it throwing Hillary under the bus. This is more fun than a circus. Or should I say the Democrats are a circus.

Posted by: eagle1 | September 9, 2008, 7:29 am 7:29 am

yn4ny2, Biden and the Messiah did vote for the bridge. But why don’t you Google it yourself. Oh, I forgot liberals are not used to doing things themselves. They need the government.

Posted by: eagle1 | September 9, 2008, 7:35 am 7:35 am

eagle1,
For me truth is an issue!
Yes Hillary should be on the ticket!
I am yet to see or hear Barck Obama slam Palin for anything other then an issue!
Facts matter!
Truth matters!

Posted by: Kate | September 9, 2008, 7:36 am 7:36 am

Obama’s the one who’s shameless. He’s implying that habeas corpus should be given to prisoners of war. He’s saying that Palin didn’t oppose the “Bridge to Nowhere”. And on and on. He is an absolute disaster, but unfortunately, most of his “disciples” are fooled by his B.S.

Posted by: steve bourg | September 9, 2008, 7:38 am 7:38 am

What kind of law professor doesn’t understand habeas corpus does not need to apply in certain cases.
“The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion, the public safety may require it.”
Article one section 9
In addition, it is applicable to the US and US citizens bound by our laws.
The real question here is why is the messiah (O’bama) so scared and protective of his long time relationships with radical bomb planting anti-American terrorists, angry racist Nation of Islam consorting Preachers, Marxist activists, and plain old Chicago criminal thugs?

Posted by: ricardo maxwell | September 9, 2008, 7:40 am 7:40 am

As much as the liberal media and reporter gushing over “The ONE” are going to try and elect Obama to the POTUS, the country is having nothing to do with it. There is a God.
ABC News(All Barack Channel) should be ashamed of themselves for their position of being in the tank for Obama. It’s been going on for over a year.

Posted by: Jim | September 9, 2008, 7:41 am 7:41 am

The Orwellian DNC Animal Farm that calls itself a united political party is failing.
Justice is prevailing and Obama is down in the polls.
I voted for Hillary and I am now voting for McCain. Many others are following suit by the thousands.
Like someone said in an earlier post, the DNC is a trainwreck.
Just wait until the end of September. You thought ten point gain by McCain was bad. The Obamabots will spread kool aid and lies with a vengeance. The Obama campaign is unraveling before our very eyes. The pretty ribbon and packaging and speeches are all unraveling to reveal the DNC’s gift to America- an empty suit.
My question to the Obamabots:
You maligned Hillary Clinton and used race baiting witch hunts to advance Saint Obama as your nominee but how did you expect the DNC advance to the next game when you had so many dead teammates on the field after the primaries?

Posted by: Samantha | September 9, 2008, 7:42 am 7:42 am

steve bourg
are you really saying Palin didnt support the bridge to nowhere” when there a hours and hours of her saying it on video ?

Posted by: Kate | September 9, 2008, 7:42 am 7:42 am

Suspending Habeas Corpus during wartime is not unusual for the United States.
So either Obama doesn’t believe we are at war or he doesn’t know history – either way is scary.

Posted by: Jason | September 9, 2008, 7:45 am 7:45 am

“What kind of law professor doesn’t understand habeas corpus does not need to apply in certain cases.”
____________________________________
The answer is simple Ricardo. The kind of law professor that associates with criminals and racist like Rezko, Wright and Ayers. The kind of professor that teaches “CON” Law.

Posted by: Samantha | September 9, 2008, 7:46 am 7:46 am

Jack Kennedy-
for those with no concept of Real Americans, if you have to ask, you are not.
I’m pretty much as real as they come, justed wanted to know what your concept was. This country was founded on so called “radicals”. That’s kinda why the right to have your “guns” and your “god” or pretty much anything else even “wrongheaded opinions” It used to be a free country anyway, but I’d rather have my President/VP fixing issues rather than espousing their particular religouse opinions. That’s kinda how the run it over there in the desert

Posted by: Pleas | September 9, 2008, 7:49 am 7:49 am

I s’pose Kate knows God so well, even to know His will.
I love this generation, able to judge truth and not KNOW what it is! Do you, Kate, actually KNOW what God has said about you or even me?

Posted by: 1DeadManWalking | September 9, 2008, 7:51 am 7:51 am

My grandmother always said, “You can’t tell time on someone else’s clock.” Judgments about people’s personal lives are better left unsaid and unrealized.
So why then do I think that Sarah Palin would be a terrible vice president? Because I also think that John McCain would be a terrible president.
I don’t care about how Sarah Palin or John McCain take care of their families. I care about how their policy choices affect my family and millions of other Americans.
McCain and Palin get their health insurance paid for by the government (hers in Alaska and his in Washington). Yet they oppose giving the nearly 46 million uninsured Americans the same access to affordable health care.
John McCain’s kids don’t have to worry about paying for college. Yet he has opposed every single education support program to help others.
McCain and Palin say they will stand up to oil companies. Yet the only energy policy they support gives millions of dollars in tax breaks to oil companies to do more drilling and he has opposed every piece of federal legislation to explore alternative fuel sources.
McCain and Palin say they will revamp how Washington does business. Yet his campaign is filled with lobbyists and she has cooperated with Sen. Ted Stevens in funneling federal money for useless projects in Alaska for years. And McCain and Palin have no solutions for Americans worrying about their jobs in a fragile economy. iReport.com: Is Palin the right choice for you?
McCain and Palin want us to leave their families alone. Yet they want to make rules for our families by eliminating our right to make our own choices over abortion, eliminate our access to family planning education or domestic partner benefits, and our freedom from discrimination.
They want to control what our kids learn in school about sex and about science. In short, through the policies they promote and the judges they support, they want the government to have more control over our private lives than at any time in history.
McCain and Palin now say their campaign is about change, too. Yet the only real change they have proposed is a change from a suit to a skirt in the vice president’s office and one man fighting a misplaced war for another in the Oval Office.
That seems to me to be the right reason to oppose them in November. It’s not the process or the people, it’s what they represent. This unconventional choice of a vice presidential nominee by John McCain won’t result in a win in November, because McCain and Palin are the wrong choice for the country.

Posted by: an american | September 9, 2008, 7:58 am 7:58 am

Hillary is a traitor to the Democratic party! How dare she limit her attack on Sarah Palin, who is not a Democrat, and a liar, when she did not do the same for Barack Obama, who is a Democrat. Especially when, it is her sexist/racist playbook that the Republicans are now using against Barack. Perhaps because she too is a lies about her record. “Dodging bullets,” Hillary, I don’t think so.

Posted by: Hargrove | September 9, 2008, 8:01 am 8:01 am

Personally speaking, life the past 8 years under Republican leadership has been the worst I have ever experienced. Why on Earth would anyone even suggest that four more years of the same would be different? Palin is a shameless liar. I’m not sure why the hours of video of her contradicting herself time and time again aren’t enough to convince people. I’m sorry, but if you’re a “Democratic” woman voting for McCain you are either, not a Democrat, or an idiot. Seriously.

Posted by: Mike | September 9, 2008, 8:04 am 8:04 am

“In the 21st century, white America got a wake-up call after 9/11/01. White America and the western world came to realize that people of color had not gone away, faded into the woodwork or just ‘disappeared’ as the Great White West kept on its merry way of ignoring black concerns.”
– Jeremiah Wright
The statement was made by a man whose church Obama sat in for 20 years and Obama claimed was his mentor.
My question to the DNC:
DNC, who are you? I don’t recognize you anymore. Why have you become everything that you used to stand against?
For the first time in my life I will vote for a Republican – John McCain.
I may come back when you nominate a credible candidate (like Hillary Clinton) and clean up the stench of donkey poo from your farce Animal Farm party.

Posted by: Samantha | September 9, 2008, 8:04 am 8:04 am

Obama just can’t help himself. He continues to run against Sarah Palin
while John McCain gets to look like the adult. The big O can just not stand
that Sarah has stolen his thunder &
diminished his role as messiah.

Posted by: paulejb | September 9, 2008, 8:06 am 8:06 am

Any uneducated person who says Obama is a socialist HAS NO IDEA WHAT SOCIALISM IS!
Shauna: Too bad nobody can afford to go to college anymore…thus a population of easily manipulated morons.
And the media is complicit. Mostly just a willing mouthpiece for bullying, right wing propaganda.
The founding fathers would roll in their graves.
—————————–
Sorry to break it to you, Shauna, but do you realize that, throughout the majority of American history, college had been something that relatively few people could afford? In fact, more people can attend college these days than in previous days. And you know what? Take a loan out. I’m 30k in debt from college. Just means I have to maintain a steady job and pay it off. I don’t need the gov’t holding my hand and giving me everything.
McCain/Palin 08.

Posted by: Nick | September 9, 2008, 8:07 am 8:07 am

this entire mess started with John F. Kennedy… he was a womanizer, a pig, the Dem’s started making excuses way back then, and now have perfected the EXCUSE MACHINE… let’s hope America finally sees the light of truth when it comes to this Obama guy, and starts voting for honest people. Obama is a fraud, a liar, and worst of all Anti-American….

Posted by: danpa | September 9, 2008, 8:08 am 8:08 am

This is the fundamental difference between Obama and intelligent people. Non-U.S. citizens fighting our nation without uniforms or a legitimate government HAVE NO RIGHTS under the U.S. Constitution, the Geneva Convention or common sense.

Posted by: Jim Smyth | September 9, 2008, 8:08 am 8:08 am

Hargrove—Hillary is a traitor to the Democratic party! How dare she limit her attack on Sarah Palin, who is not a Democrat, and a liar, when she did not do the same for Barack Obama, who is a Democrat. Especially when, it is her sexist/racist playbook that the Republicans are now using against Barack. Perhaps because she too is a lies about her record. “Dodging bullets,” Hillary, I don’t think so.
_____________________________________
This is yet another racist statement from an Obamabot.
Hillary, the DNC kicked you to the curb for Saint Obama. Now they will blame you for this unelectable joke of a nominee not winning the election.
Hillary please disassociate with Obama. It is a set up. Let Obama fight his own losing battle. You are doing more for Obama’s campaign than his own VP nominee Joe Biden and stupid Obamabots are now calling you a traitor.
Unbelievable

Posted by: Samantha | September 9, 2008, 8:10 am 8:10 am

Change is NOT a destination; hope is NOT a strategy!
Rudy G. 2008
Communism doesn’t work because people like to own stuff.
Frank Zappa (1940 – 1993)

Posted by: ricardo maxwell | September 9, 2008, 8:12 am 8:12 am

1. Obama is unqualified and we all know it. His Fairyland isn’t going to “save” us and do we really need to be saved in the first place? We can do this on our own. If you are stupid enough to buy into Obama’s schpill about McCain being the same as Bush – then I recommend you read McCain’s history. And yes, he’s been called a Maverick for a very long time – it isn’t a new thing….believe me, you will feel stupid after educating yourself on the man.
2. Obama’s tactic are sleazy, and his short record in the Senate has produced over 200 “Present” votes, meaning he was there, but opted NOT to vote for his constituents, no reforms. So, nothing is new, business as usual in Washington. He hasn’t turned the Senate upside down, he can’t work with both sides of the isle…what’s he got going for him? Just a TelePrompTer? Oh, yes, and Fairyland is always there too I supposed.

Posted by: jackson | September 9, 2008, 8:13 am 8:13 am

Odd that Obama pointed out that Habeas Corpus has always been part of Anglo-American Law. He didn’t just poiny out that it has been part of American law, which is all that we should be concerned about, but it has been part of Anglo-American Law. Thats a term that the McCain camp would have been crucified for using. Was he pointing That since it was part of “White” law for so long, that its something that McCain should also understand, at least the way Obama interpets it.

Posted by: Al D | September 9, 2008, 8:14 am 8:14 am

What EXACTLY is Barack Obama’s relationship with Bill Ayers? Is Bill Ayers a casual acquaintance or a close friend? A business associate? What? Can someone link to any NYT or WP articles that detail the relationship? Or link to any news source that can provide the details? The info in Wikipedia is remarkably sparse.

Posted by: Frank | September 9, 2008, 8:16 am 8:16 am

Obama is right about the Bridge to Nowhere except he intentionally omits the “rest of the story”. After Sarah Palin got in to office and saw the other projects that needed to be addressed, with an informed decision, she changed her position and did oppose the Bridge to Nowhere and instead spent two million dollars for a ferry to get the people on and off the island.

Posted by: Tr | September 9, 2008, 8:19 am 8:19 am

Obama is right about the Bridge to Nowhere except he intentionally omits the “rest of the story”. After Sarah Palin got in to office and saw the other projects that needed to be addressed, with an informed decision, she changed her position and did oppose the Bridge to Nowhere and instead spent two million dollars for a ferry to get the people on and off the island.

Posted by: Tr | September 9, 2008, 8:19 am 8:19 am

Modern liberalism is the ideological enclave of underachievers and cowards.
Fight the left!!!
Fight ‘em on November 4th!!!!
Stand up for this country!!!!
or
Take the advice of Castro, Kim Jong il, and Mahmoud Ahmedinejad and vote democrat.

Posted by: Ky Marine | September 9, 2008, 8:26 am 8:26 am

Oh, no!
Obama Buys $1.65 Million Dollar Home After Election to Senate – With Help From a Kickback Pal, Of Course
January 12, 2008 by mortensign
Kickback Suspect Helped Obama Buy Home
Shortly after election to the Senate, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., bought a $1.65 million house with the help of an Illinois man now under indictment for bribes and kickbacks. Antoin “Tony” Rezko bought an adjacent lot from the same seller when Obama purchased his home under market value, a move Obama now calls a “bone-headed mistake.”
Obama’s Connection With an Accused Political Fixer Raises Questions
In sharp contrast to his tough talk about ethics reform in government, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., approached a well-known Illinois political fixer under active federal investigation, Antoin “Tony” Rezko, for “advice” as he sought to find a way to buy a house shortly after being elected to the United States Senate.
The parcel included an adjacent lot which Obama told the Chicago Tribune he could not afford because “it was already a stretch to buy the house.”
On the same day Obama closed on his house, Rezko’s wife bought the adjacent empty lot, meeting the condition of the seller who wanted to sell both properties at the same time.
Rezko had been widely reported to be under investigation by the U.S. attorney and the FBI at the time Obama contacted him and has since been indicted on corruption charges by a federal grand jury in a case that prosecutors say involves bribes, kickbacks and “efforts to illegally obtain millions of dollars.”

Posted by: munroej | September 9, 2008, 8:40 am 8:40 am

Obama’s not tossing rocks he is throwing boomerangs.
As recently as Sunday (on ABC,no less)he lied about his military aspirations evidenced by his own statement that in 1979 he had to register with selective service.
Oops-no such requirement.
The Obama campaign strategy to date has been to hide or destroy records and lie, obfuscate and then challenge any criticisms. Running on a limited resume that is absent any achievements other than election success is fraught with weakness that begs question. Diversion is the only technique that could work but it depends on a willing media.
To quote the candidate himself, “The American people are not that stupid.”

Posted by: avande7217 | September 9, 2008, 8:44 am 8:44 am

October will be very interesting in the “Truth Dept.” of the Obama Campaign. Word is Reverend Wright’s book, due out in October just before the election is going to drop the mother of all bombs on the Obama Campaign and sink it like the turd that it is.
NObama has been telling a slew of some real whoppers and Rev. Wright is going to shed some light on the truth and BO ain’t gonna like it because he also provides evidence and documentation.
BO stinks….Vote McCain-Palin!!!

Posted by: Garrison | September 9, 2008, 8:46 am 8:46 am

I am very disappointed in Obama…rather than a smooth effective communicator, he has become a squeaky and frightened reactionary. Our potential enemies, especially terrorists will have a poster of Obama with the caption reading “Girly Man!”

Posted by: Jane Baumgarten | September 9, 2008, 8:51 am 8:51 am

Biden was for plagarism before he was against it.
Biden was against Gulf War. Can you imagine what the Middle East would look like now if these two clowns were in office. Iraq would have been not only in Kuwait but Saudia Arabia too.
Biden was for dividing Iraq up into 3 sections. Who is he do dictate how Iraq divides up their own country. What a lightweight.
Biden was for the Iraq war before he was against it. He then voted against surge that has given us victory (a word not in Lib vocabulary) and voted against equipment for our troops. What a troll!!!

Posted by: eagle1 | September 9, 2008, 8:53 am 8:53 am

It is insanity to do exactly the same thing and hope for a different result. John McCain has been a Powerful member of the ruling party for the last eight years–one that controlled ALL branches of government for six of those years (there are more Republican appointments on the Supreme Court). How’s it working for you?

Posted by: Kim | September 9, 2008, 8:53 am 8:53 am

American’s are NOT going to support the whole world while suffering and living like paupers for the better good of the party, with socioeconomic structure that promotes the establishment of an egalitarian, classless, stateless society based on common ownership democrats! That is anti-American and futile attempts to pretend help and aid. Liberals are not helping other 3 world countries by forcing them to live in a primative manner and farm by primative means with our tax dollars, refusing them technology, liberty, methods and education of this century. Quit wasting our money to enslave others to your foolish communist-cult ways which you yourself wouldn’t and don’t tolerate.

Posted by: killershoes | September 9, 2008, 8:53 am 8:53 am

I don’t know if barack the guy running for president should reference barack the bomb thrower with the unrepentent bomber William Ayres standing so close to his circle of friends. Oh wait Ayres was thrown under the bus with grandma and flageler and hillary and rezko and wright. No wonder the bus has stopped moving

Posted by: Rick Bitterman | September 9, 2008, 8:54 am 8:54 am

They’re running scared…that’s why they quite touting their own plans and started rolling out the heavy lies. John McCain hasn’t been a maverick for seven years…and he didn’t “reform washington.” Sarah Palin has never been a maverick. She does however speak in tongues and prays for pipelines. There’s just too much money to be made being a cooperative jeezopublican for them to change now.
O’Bama will win huge in November.

Posted by: njohn | September 9, 2008, 8:56 am 8:56 am

Is it just me, or is that wart on obama’s face growing bigger with each lie he tells?

Posted by: PandaPatti | September 9, 2008, 8:58 am 8:58 am

Uh oh. Independents have McCain up by 15% and white women have given a 20% swing to McCain.
Ok Libs time to go to work and call all Independents and Hockey Moms RACISTS!!!
Come on, get started, you can do it.

Posted by: eagle1 | September 9, 2008, 8:59 am 8:59 am

PandaPati, now that’s funny!!!

Posted by: eagle1 | September 9, 2008, 9:01 am 9:01 am

“Yes, you are!” shouted a woman in the crowd.
Priceless.

Posted by: mediahack | September 9, 2008, 9:03 am 9:03 am

Here’s whats shameless. Advocating for a law that would close every gun store within a 5 mile radius of a school (as though kids go buy guns after school), telling a reporter that you feel the DC handgun ban “is constitutional”.
Once the court knocks down the ban, then turn around and say you support the 2nd amendment.

Posted by: Vince | September 9, 2008, 9:05 am 9:05 am

Here’s whats shameless. Advocating for a law that would close every gun store within a 5 mile radius of a school (as though kids go buy guns after school), telling a reporter that you feel the DC handgun ban “is constitutional”.
Once the court knocks down the ban, then turn around and say you support the 2nd amendment.

Posted by: Vince | September 9, 2008, 9:05 am 9:05 am

elites didn’t nominate obama…voters did. And if you think that “elite” tag doesn’t apply to republicans you are out of what’s left of your coke addled mind. By the way, Sarah has NEVER been a maverick, but she does speak in tongues and pray for pipelines. Personally I don’t vote for vice president…but I wouldn’t vote for that earmark whore in a million years. McCain? Once a maverick (7 years ago) but did he “reform washington?” That is laughably absurd!!! Any conservative worth his salt LOATHES the McCain Feingold measure…it’s on the way to being overturned. so what else did he do? ANYBODY? I know: he nearly washed out of Annapolis and then crashed five navy jets. YAAAAAY MY HERO!!!

Posted by: john | September 9, 2008, 9:06 am 9:06 am

All you libs said Palin wasn’t vetted by the press.
Can any of you libs tell me what is the Messiah’s relationship with Bill Ayers the admitted terrorist who he calls his friend.
Can you libs tell me why the Messiah sat in a church for 20 years and subjected his children to Black Theology and filthy racist speech.
Can you libs tell me why the Messiah got millions in funds for his friend Rezco the convicted felon for multi family housing and now they are all boarded up.
Can any of you libs tell me why the Messiah migrated to leftist and communist leaning professors in college.
Can any of you libs tell me if the Messiah still uses cocaine as he admitted using a lot. How do we know he is not addicted. He is currently addicted to nicotine.
The point is the press did not vet the Messiah at all. I can’t find anywhere on the internet where the so call main stream press asked any of these tough questions. When some of the came out Hillary cleaned his clock and he barely limped over the finish line.

Posted by: eagle1 | September 9, 2008, 9:13 am 9:13 am

One word
Manchurian Canditate

Posted by: Blue boy | September 9, 2008, 9:16 am 9:16 am

eagle: Fair enough, but only if you tell me John McCain’s health care plan. We all know Hannity’s talking points he repeats them ad nauseum.
One thing for damn sure – the GOP brings out the worse in Americans!

Posted by: julescator | September 9, 2008, 9:18 am 9:18 am

He is very Wright! Obama and Biden are shameless! America seems to have come awake, and is discovering the real Obama. You can poll all you want. The poll that counts is in November!
He has admitted to many misstatements recently. What a shame. The democrats believed they had found the saviour, and while he may be more eloquent than President Bush… he still can not seem to get the story Wright (sorry that is right)!

Posted by: rank | September 9, 2008, 9:21 am 9:21 am

This guy has some nerve!!! He has shifted position more times than anyone I have seen in recent political history!! Worse than Kerry in ’04! He has the nerve to open his big mouth and say these things while he ignores the fact that he has changed position on taxes, the war, health care, the economy, his church, his past (which they are still hiding). WHO DOES HE THINK HE IS?! What a piece of crap! John McCain is no saint either but his past is wide open. Sarah Palin will be interviewed by ABC this week. That will make her and her past wide open. Why won’t Obama explain Bill Ayers? Why won’t he explain Reverend Wright? Why can’t he tell the truth about why he won’t pledge to the flag or put his hand over his heart when reciting the pledge to this country? Why? Well, most likely because if all were revealed truthfully, he would have NO CHANCE of being elected. That’s why.

Posted by: John | September 9, 2008, 9:21 am 9:21 am

eagle: You whipped out that mcCain health care plan yet??? lol lol

Posted by: julescator | September 9, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am

Obama has no right to criticize any ones record when he has none other than to vote present almost 200 times.
What a chicken, too limp to take a stand even in his own state legislature. The only executive experence has been to run his 43 million fondation into the ground. He says running his campaign is his experence and he dosn’t belive in taking on the children of other candidats yet he can’t even control his own people to keep their mouths shut and not drag those children in the mud.
He is either a liar or a very poor executive or both. Which I believe he is both. He is in Panic City right now. The bloom has come off the “O” all around.

Posted by: navy65 | September 9, 2008, 9:24 am 9:24 am

Kate – care to do a minor fact check on your supposed quotes from Palin?

Posted by: Bob | September 9, 2008, 9:27 am 9:27 am

julescator – Thanks you just made my point.

Posted by: navy65 | September 9, 2008, 9:29 am 9:29 am

What a lame constitutional law professor. Miranda, the “reading your rights” ruling from the Supreme Court has only been the law since 1966, not 200 years. Habeas is not the principle at issue, that’s a canard; reading rights and advising of the right to counsel is a procedural defect which causes evidence to be excluded, preventing conviction.

Posted by: Crawford Rose | September 9, 2008, 9:31 am 9:31 am

Obama wasn’t properly vetted by the voters of the Democratic party.

Posted by: Alan | September 9, 2008, 9:32 am 9:32 am

Mac Daddy McCain and Baby Momma Drama queen! lol lol

Posted by: julescator | September 9, 2008, 9:34 am 9:34 am

Alan – Is there a point in there somewhere? Baby Momma Drama Queen is the topic. Stay on topic please. The new Celebrity in town is the advocate for teen age pregnancy and high school drop outs! Keep up will you?

Posted by: julescator | September 9, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am

THIS is what passes for a blog? It’s 99% direct quotes from an Obama speech! It’s just a political ad. No opinion, no analysis. Pathetic.

Posted by: Wise Old Lady | September 9, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am

Chris Obama is not the topic in here. we have moved on the the new stars; Mac Daddy McCain and Baby Momma Drama Queen. I can’t wait for them to get into the White House. By Novemember most of America’s teenage girls will be pregnant and will have dropped out of school like our new teen Idol Bristol!!!! He baby daddy is cute. Is the 13 year old sexually active yet?

Posted by: julescator | September 9, 2008, 9:39 am 9:39 am

Since when do non-citizens get constitutional rights? They don’t. The whole premise of that discussion is fatally flawed and once this is pointed out, the debate is over.
Are our soldiers now supposed to read Miranda rights to captured combatants? Pretty silly idea, unless you’re an Obama fan I guess.
I don’t think FDR would agree with Obama regarding prisoners of war, who by their conduct do not even qualify for Geneva Code protection, since they don’t wear a uniform.

Posted by: Ken St.Paul | September 9, 2008, 9:41 am 9:41 am

Watch to see a campaign implode. The dem’s went far left/ the media jumped on the empty suit bandwagon, the empty suite picks the stuffed shirt/ should have picked Hill/ did not have enough guts/ McCain shows courage picking an unknown reformer/Media goes nuts / exposing them for their bias/The empty suit continues to talk about his experience is better than hers/ who is he running against anyway?/ only to continue to point out his own thin resume with the Palin/ the stuff shirt complains that the sarah pick has been afraid to answer questions despite the fact she had ONE WEEK to prepare for the biggest speech of her life. now no more big speeches for bama/ empty suits strong suit/ has to debate/ not so strong because has no real convictions/ note -sat in church pew for 20 years with a bigot who hates america/ /next up/ media attempt to destroy palin. /cannot help themselves/ Biden proves he is a stuffed shirt/ cannot help himself/ the country really starts to pay attention/ Let me see?? empty suit vs war hero , who was tortured, left in a cell to die for 5 years because when offered a chance to go home/ he said no unless ALL the POW’s go / has been hated in his own party because he has reached out across party lines with a V.P. known for taking on her own party of corrupt “old boy” politician in Alaska with a 80% approval rating VS. empty suit and stuff suit / one at the top of the ticket /who has done nothing but campaign for 2 years of his 3 1/2 years in the senate and the stuffed shirt that cannot stop talking about him self.\/ watch/ i have faith in Joe Biden/ running on a campaign of change/ the duo think raising taxes on cap gains, dividends, personal income and corporations is a good idea in a slow economy despite the fact they voted for a “stimulus check” to get the economy going/ Opps / now obama says he may delay raising taxes because of the slow economy/ well if its not a good idea in a slow economy , why is it a good idea at all/ THATS the change people are looking for. Great idea!!!! Oh. by the way, the US has the 2nd highest corporate taxes in the world/ Raising their taxes will make them even more competitive in a global economy, right? The American people are starting to see the comparisons, Empty suit and stuffed shirt in big trouble. Watch obama call for Hilliary to go to battleground states, not good enough to be v.p. but please come an save me/ And everyone will see the emperor has no clothes.

Posted by: steve larson | September 9, 2008, 9:41 am 9:41 am

What does Obama have to “explain” about Ayers? That they live in the same neighborhood? That they served on a community board together (with many other people who live in their neighborhood)? That Ayers was a member of the Weather Underground when he was a child? What do you need explained to you?

Posted by: Kim | September 9, 2008, 9:42 am 9:42 am

If Obama ever caught Osama, he’d probably just ask him for a campaign contribution. Living for “Hope” is living in fantasy land. I don’t have “Hope”. I have a JOB! Symbolism over substance, the mantra of the Dems.

Posted by: Larry in Florida | September 9, 2008, 9:42 am 9:42 am

Larry in Florida:
If Mac Daddy McCain could find Bin Laden he would pimp him out to try to win this election. Baby Momma Drama Queen is going down in flames so McCain needs a new T&A act!

Posted by: julescator | September 9, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am

Isn’t it odd that Tapper does not even call Mr. Obama on the candidate’s use of habeas to change the subject from Osama bin Laden to Guantanamo detainment? Miranda is not habeas corpus and neither of those laws are not meant for belligerants but for our citizens. Plus, Abraham Lincoln suspended habeas when it was necessary to suppress rebellion in the border states so it hasn’t been absolute for 200 years.

Posted by: Crawford Rose | September 9, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am

Sean Hannity is trying to cover up his man crush on William Ayers. Ayers has balls, Hannity doesn’t

Posted by: julescator | September 9, 2008, 9:47 am 9:47 am

Obama’s position just goes to show that he hasn’t given this 5 minutes of thought. He wants to kill anyone we think may have been a terrorist. “Take em out.” He doesn’t give any value to capturing these people and a) determining if we have the right person and b) finding out who their friends out and c) getting other valuable intel out of them. He just wants to shoot first and hope for the best. Classic non-military Liberal position. He’d rather shoot Bin Laden than get his roll call list. Idiot. That’s why he’s soft on terror. He thinks everyone involved in 9/11 (except Bin Laden) is dead, so the problem is solved.

Posted by: Lex | September 9, 2008, 9:49 am 9:49 am

Repulbicans know more about irrelevant Willam Ayers than they know about John McCain’s Health Care Plan. Now I ask you – which of these two topics will affect your household? William Ayers or John McCain’s Health Care Plan. You only have 2 minutes to answer!

Posted by: julescator | September 9, 2008, 9:49 am 9:49 am

Most people know more about William Ayes than they know about McCain leaving 100,000,000 people with no tax cuts (that would be you in the middle) If you make over $250,000 McCain has all kinds of breaks for you. The more you make the bigger the tax deduction.
Now those of you that make under $250,000 Obama will cut your taxes, McCain will raise them. read the WSJ and get smart! (or is it too late for that?)

Posted by: julescator | September 9, 2008, 9:52 am 9:52 am

Julescator-Please keep insulting the Palins and her family. This is great!! Don’t you think it is time to call the independents who gave McCain a 15% lead and the white women a 20% McCanin swing RACIST. Please, Please do not stop bashing the Palin family.

Posted by: eagle35 | September 9, 2008, 9:58 am 9:58 am

Ok talking about lying -
1 – He does push for reading the rights to terrorists, because he wants to bring them here, not in Guatanamo FACT
2 – Fact they are not covered by the Constitution or Geneva Convention- They are enemy combatents not POWs
3 – The Bridge to no where Sarah never came in support of it, the previous Governor did and she stopped it. But lets say she originally supported it and then realized hey why we spending this money and then quashed it. Does not Obama change his positions daily and not to benefit the people.
4 – Obama talks about the constitution and how we should follow it, then why does he push un-constitutioanl items, like the (un)fairness Doctrine, why does he threaten peoples free speech

Posted by: spock | September 9, 2008, 9:59 am 9:59 am

Wow. Someone who cares about the constitution. You know…the thing that differentiates us from the authoritarian world like Iran, Russia, and Saudia Arabia…ya that’s it. The Constitution…starts out “We the people”…as in the document that defines the rights of the individual in a free society…yeah…you got it. The constitution. Thank-you Senator Obama for caring about the document that guides our country. Its so refreshing in a politician to care about such a vital issue. You absolutely have my vote!
Obama/Biden 08!!!

Posted by: Suz in KS | September 9, 2008, 10:01 am 10:01 am

McCain/Palin shameless…can you believe the Obamassiah has the nerver to call someone else “shameless”. He is a simple tool of the Pelosi/Reed/Murtha/Dean Party and a lying disgusting human being….

Posted by: deathbydemocraticparty | September 9, 2008, 10:02 am 10:02 am

Typical Obama, How stupid. He gets mad because Palin said he wants to catch terrorists so they can read them their rights. And his rebuttal is that we have to catch them first. Reading rights to Osama? Are you kidding. What an empty suit. Killing or catching Obama does not solve the problem alone. He thinks success in the war against radical Islam rests on catching Osama. Of, course he doesnt believe we are at war…

Posted by: Craig | September 9, 2008, 10:04 am 10:04 am

eagle35 and Ohio girl: Finally someone noticed what I have been doing. It is quite simple. This nasty campaiging doesn’t look good no matter which side you are on. The Obama supporters have been looking at this kind of stuff for months. Now you see what it’s like to be on that side of the fence.
I am one of those Independents you speak of. My point it this! This is a very serious election and we have wasted a lot of time with cheap political tricks and downright mean posts.
As Americans we should vote on the issues not who has the best insults and lies. I think we all owe it to ourselves to vote on the issues. Every election year we let our political paties pit us against each other and we end on voting against our own self interest because we think this is a school yard fight. They are all rich and will get richer no matter who wins.
I like all of these candidates they are decent people. We dishonor them when we stoop to all this pettiness. There is enough dirt on both sides to talk about for months. Let’s be smart this time and VOTE THE ISSUES – NOT THE SMEARS! Fair enough?

Posted by: julescator | September 9, 2008, 10:05 am 10:05 am

These people are shameless and dishonest. Obama is the worst of the bunch. He want to take out terrorists, spefically, “Anybody who was involved in 9/11″. I do believe all of those terrorists died in the buildings. The rest we will read them their rights and let them go. Obama will say anything to get elected. (Pay attention to the fine print.)

Posted by: zypldot | September 9, 2008, 10:06 am 10:06 am

Kim says: “What does Obama have to “explain” about Ayers? That they live in the same neighborhood? That they served on a community board together (with many other people who live in their neighborhood)? That Ayers was a member of the Weather Underground when he was a child? What do you need explained to you?”
If McCain were friends with Tim McVey or David Duke and he went to them for political advice are you telling us this would not matter? Wow!!!
And you Libs say Palin wasn’t vetted.
(ABC, why are you deleting this comment?)

Posted by: eagle35 | September 9, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am

I hope I made my point! We are better than this as Americans. It’s really easy to say mean things, however, it takes a little more time and dedication to actully decipher the issues that will affect our lives!
Vote the Issues – not the Smears! Let’s be smart this time.

Posted by: julescator | September 9, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am

I am not sure what all the bashing is about. It’s simple. If you think McCain will be the best president then vote for him. If you think Obama will be the better candidate, then vote for him.
Why all the fuss? I think most people have decided who they are going to vote for.

Posted by: julescator | September 9, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am

It would seem that the Obama crowd is in a panic. Did anyone read the Newsweek article this morning responding to the untruths being sent out by e-mail.
If it takes these kinds of lies to make a point then Obama is in serious trouble. Now he is lowering himself calling his opponents liars. What happened to the Rock Star Obama??

Posted by: Bill Key West | September 9, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am

deathbydemocraticparty:
Your choice is easy. Vote for McCain.

Posted by: julescator | September 9, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am

julecator says-”VOTE THE ISSUES – NOT THE SMEARS! Fair enough?”
julecator posts: “If Mac Daddy McCain could find Bin Laden he would pimp him out to try to win this election. Baby Momma Drama Queen is going down in flames so McCain needs a new T&A act!”
“By Novemember most of America’s teenage girls will be pregnant and will have dropped out of school like our new teen Idol Bristol!!!! He baby daddy is cute. Is the 13 year old sexually active yet?”
“Does Palin have “Sympathy Baby” on the trail with her today or is it the “glorified knocked up HS drop out?”

Posted by: eagle35 | September 9, 2008, 10:15 am 10:15 am

“VOTE THE ISSUES – NOT THE SMEARS”
The issues:
Obama will raise income taxes, business taxes, death tax, and capital gains taxes. This will hurt the economy and employment.
Obama is in favor of unrestricted right to kill innocent babies (rated 100% by NARAL).
Obama voted “present” over 100 times while a state senator.
Obama has missed 67 out of 293 votes (23%) as a US senator.
Obama is opposed to drilling for oil.
Obama wants to give social security benefits to illegal aliens.
Obama wants to cut and run from Iraq and was opposed to the surge.
Obama opposed Roberts and Aleto to the Supreme Court.
Obama wants to read terrorists their rights.
If you don’t know, don’t vote.
People who know, don’t vote for Obama.

Posted by: zypldot | September 9, 2008, 10:16 am 10:16 am

I just love the American people excecpt at election time. We seem to get really ugly as we support our favorite candidate.
I think we should lift ourselves up and look at the issues and leave the smears to the pundits. We are better than this.

Posted by: julescator | September 9, 2008, 10:18 am 10:18 am

McCain/Palin will win in November.
I am libertarian, and I will vote for McCain.
Obama camp said People in France and Germany like Obama, and when I said these people in Germany and France are not Americans and who cares?
They replied “well, McCain is strong will dominate the world, and those European countries like Germany and France don’t want to see the US dominates the world, they want to have equal share, and so they like Obama, because he is weak.”

Posted by: Beatrice | September 9, 2008, 10:19 am 10:19 am

Millions of new voter registering.. do you REALLY think these new voters are gonna vote for “more of the McCain-SAME”.. NOT.
If you believe in the “polls”, you don’t know how the media works.
Obama will win by a landslide.

Posted by: Bill | September 9, 2008, 10:21 am 10:21 am

Obama will lose simply because he lacks what the people of America want: true leadership. He has less experience than his running mate, and his campaign has the nerve to slander Palin? Pathetic!

Posted by: lostlove | September 9, 2008, 10:23 am 10:23 am

Beatrice:
Then your choice is easy – Vote McCain. Is it really necessary to bash Obama just because you like McCain. Let’s but civility back into our conversations. You have ligitimate points (without the spin). I respect you opinion. You should respect the others.

Posted by: julescator | September 9, 2008, 10:23 am 10:23 am

baraky:
soft on terrorists…
tough on normal Americans…

Posted by: jinx13 | September 9, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am

Miranda is not the issue at all. Miranda does not even apply to Habeas–it is a decision that does not even draw from Habeas. “Anglo-American” for the idiot who posted earlier, refers to the fact that Habeas is derived from British law–and yes, has been a legal principle since before our country was founded. Habeas has only been suspended a few times in our history–during wartime–and always during wars that are finite. This one is not–which suggests, of course, that if innocent people are held at Guantanamo, they can be held indefinitely. We know that there ARE, in fact, innocent people there; the government has released a considerable number without trial, admitting that they should not have been detained in the first place. Finally, McCain has been in favor (in the past, of course) of closing Guantanamo and moving detainees to Levenworth–precisely BECAUSE Habeas would then apply. So yes, foreign citizens DO get the protection of Habeas on US soil–which is why Guantanamo is off-site in the first place.

Posted by: Kim | September 9, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am

Bill – What about those polls a couple weeks ago that had Obama well ahead?
I suppose you didn’t believe those either …
Bill – It’s time to get off the computer and get some air.

Posted by: DFP | September 9, 2008, 10:26 am 10:26 am

What is shameless is the fact that Obama says he wants to help the needy, yet pushes a bill that would kill human beings before they have a chance to defend themselves.

Posted by: Charles | September 9, 2008, 10:28 am 10:28 am

Deathbydemocraticparty wrote:
Wow. Someone who cares about the constitution. You know…the thing that differentiates us from the authoritarian world like Iran, Russia, and Saudia Arabia…ya that’s it. The Constitution…starts out “We the people”…as in the document that defines the rights of the individual in a free society…yeah…you got it. The constitution. Thank-you Senator Obama for caring about the document that guides our country. Its so refreshing in a politician to care about such a vital issue. You absolutely have my vote!
Obama/Biden 08!!!
Isn’t that rich of you to know want to show respect to the Constitution, yet the far-left has no problem trampling on the Constitution when it supports judges who legislate from the bench rather than respect the Constitution and allow elected lawmakers to make laws. That’s the only way the liberals can pass their agenda. Face it, the country is center-right, not liberal.
Obama calls Republicans shameless. How shameful is it of him to run as a uniter when he is left of the left in this country. How will he govern from the center? He doesn’t know what it looks like. He wants to be above the partisanship, when has he been anything other than a partisan, voting the left party line when he’s not voting “PRESENT”. He’s got to take a stand on something since his record is completely deficient of any accomplishments other than writing his 2 memoirs and what seems to be a decent family life.

Posted by: JP | September 9, 2008, 10:28 am 10:28 am

Can you imagine what they would have done to Sarah Palin if they had a video of her minister saying “GD America” over and over again? Or, if her minister had said that the US government inflicted the aids crisis on the American people. Does BHO have no shame?

Posted by: Harold | September 9, 2008, 10:29 am 10:29 am

Obama is a wolf in sheep’s clothing being aided by the elitists of the media.
Obama when asked about his assocation with Bill Ayers stated Ayers was “just a guy who lives in the neighborhood.” But it’s not being reported that Obama was the CEO of the foundation named CAC which was founded and guided by Ayers.
Ayers is the co founder of Weather Underground, which BOMBED USA sites including the US Capital and the Pentagon.
Democrats for the sake of America, please do your homework and at least google and check into this.
And God help us, if once you check into it you can still pull the lever for Obama.

Posted by: SaraAmerica | September 9, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am

Dear julescator,
If you carefully read my comments, you would understand I didn’t bash Obama. Those statements I took from other comments and some from European blogs.
I am Libertarian new generation and you understand my stance, I do not like the extreme left liberals.
Sincere thanks

Posted by: Beatrice | September 9, 2008, 10:32 am 10:32 am

The truth is that Obama and the democrats have done everything possible to cause us to loose this war against Islamic terrorists and to cause the American people to loose support for the war and the Commander and Chief. I saved the stories with their quotes over the years, so saying that Obama is for winning the war is simply bs. And anyone who would say that Obama is perfect needs to drink some Cool-aid before the election.

Posted by: Jim Johnson | September 9, 2008, 10:32 am 10:32 am

What a joke military tribunals have worked for 200 years . The democrats are the reason we have had to fight this war with one arm tied behind our backs! I was outraged that th Suprems said forign enemy combatants deserve all rights affroded U.S. citizes. Obamma says Hillary is unfit because she used bad judgment voting for the Iraq war then he picks Biden who voted for the war ??!! Clinton had Bin Ladden 3 times and let him go!You can’t trust these people with Nat’l Security!

Posted by: warren | September 9, 2008, 10:34 am 10:34 am

I heard the Republicans spout some ridiculous stat about Obama’s public voting record, so I went to check it out myself…
…I was disappointed to see that Obama has selected “No Vote” (NV) over 40% of time.
This caused me to reflect on his commitment and responsibility to his constituents. Isn’t the whole purpose of a Representative to represent his people? (to participate in voting on the Senate floor?) That’s pretty much one of the main parts of the job description.
I have to say that when I look at Obama’s track record (things done- not just said or said he will do), that my confidence in him being the next President has dropped.
If you were on the board of a large company and were interviewing 2 promising candidates for arguably the most important position in your company, and one of the candidates had an impressive list of of accomplishments (reflecting years of experience), and the other candidate had a list of accomplishments that was clearly much thinner — would that not be an important factor to be weighed?
I admit that I’ve gotten caught up in a candidates’ appearance and how effective they are at public speaking, but am now trying to be a more responsible voter and actually research each candidate further — it’s not hard nowadays with the internet and easy access to public voting records, transcripts of candidates interviews, etc. You can actually read what they’ve said, and see what they’ve done. You are in control. You can think about it, and you can decide without the distraction of a reporter or editor that.
My hope is that more people will take a little time to do this before casting their vote this November.
We all want what is best for our Country — let us examine the candidates thoroughly, cautiously, with the same zeal, energy, and scrutiny we’d give if someone came to your door to ask if they could take your child somewhere. It’s that important.

Posted by: mnuh | September 9, 2008, 10:35 am 10:35 am

It’s been evident for many months that when Obama’s political fortunes are under duress, that he and his mentors instinctively resort to playing the victimization of racial bias in the hopes of inoculating him against criticism. However, there is an even greater issue of concern, Obama’s admitted heavy marijuana and cocaine use in high school and college may well have played a decisive role in the development of Obama’s inflated sense of his own importance; and, his pretentious demeanor. Heavy drug use can lead to hallucinations concerning ones status of grandiosity. Another clue is Obama’s frequent confused and unintelligible babblings whenever he is subjected to a public forum where he is devoid of a prepared text by his handlers to read from; which is the reason that Obama’s controllers will resist any attempt to have their candidate exposed to town-hall style forums.
Considering the fact that, if elected, Obama would be in proximity to the Nuclear Football 24/7, the American electorate has the right to know if Obama has any residual defect from his admittedly heavy former drug use. Obama’s inability to overcome his nicotine dependency suggests that he remains vunerable to such addictions. Obama has the responsibility to submit to an independent medical examination to ascertain the facts concerning his substance abuse.
Until such concerns are put to rest, this man, who has exhibited a profound lack of common-sense, should never be allowed anywhere near the Oval Office. Greg Neubeck

Posted by: Greg Neubeck | September 9, 2008, 10:35 am 10:35 am

What a joke military tribunals have worked for 200 years . The democrats are the reason we have had to fight this war with one arm tied behind our backs! I was outraged that th Suprems said forign enemy combatants deserve all rights affroded U.S. citizes. Obamma says Hillary is unfit because she used bad judgment voting for the Iraq war then he picks Biden who voted for the war ??!! Clinton had Bin Ladden 3 times and let him go!You can’t trust these people with Nat’l Security!

Posted by: warren | September 9, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am

Our constitution does not cover foreign terrorists. It is for our DOMESTIC protection. Furthermore, there are no rights bestowed upon, nor protections afforded enemy combatants (under the Geneva Convention) who are fighting a guerilla war. Someone please tell me why this is so confusing.
America no longer has a collective “moral fiber”, so the excuse of “that’s who we are” is not valid. Even so, our former moral fiber compelled us to take care of our own citizens and residents first.

Posted by: Bucho | September 9, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am

Our constitution does not cover foreign terrorists. It is for our DOMESTIC protection. Furthermore, there are no rights bestowed upon, nor protections afforded enemy combatants (under the Geneva Convention) who are fighting a guerilla war. Someone please tell me why this is so confusing.
America no longer has a collective “moral fiber”, so the excuse of “that’s who we are” is not valid. Even so, our former moral fiber compelled us to take care of our own citizens and residents first.

Posted by: Bucho | September 9, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am

Just think, we could have Palin in the middle of a vice presidential speech when God reaches out to her and she goes into a “speaking in tongues” fit like she may or may not do in her pentacostal church with the other idiotic assholes who think that in the end times people will flock to Alaska for some reason beyond me. I doubt it but maybe then Americans will wake up to what is happening in our country. We’re going to get what we deserve and it ain’t looking good. This b—- is starting to make G.W. look good. We are in trouble, the country will be destroyed by religion.

Posted by: Sam Sharp | September 9, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am

This is one independent woman, who will be voting for McCain-Palin in November.
Obama can’t seem to make up his mind. He wants to pander to the far-left as he did throughout the primaries and now is trying to move to the center without offending those who got him there.
He is a left wing extremist with some very poor characters as his advisors. His only crutch, Joe Biden, has serious health concerns with 2 brain aneurysisms the last few years and whose health is failing him according to his son.
Reverend Wright is releasing his book in October, which is supposed to contain proof of many lies by Obama and 2 or 3 serious scandals.

Posted by: Melissa | September 9, 2008, 10:42 am 10:42 am

Please review my previous post below.
You can see that I didn’t bash Obama, I only reposted others’ comments I took from other blogs. I like a rational debate on every issue, no bashing.
I cannot vote Obama who has no executive experiences to run my country; if he (Obama) were Col. Powel or Dr. Rice I sure trust them. But Obama? No I am scared. Please understand.
With respect and thank you.
Beatrice
“McCain/Palin will win in November.
I am libertarian, and I will vote for McCain.
Obama camp said People in France and Germany like Obama, and when I said these people in Germany and France are not Americans and who cares?
They replied “well, McCain is strong will dominate the world, and those European countries like Germany and France don’t want to see the US dominates the world, they want to have equal share, and so they like Obama, because he is weak.” //

Posted by: Beatrice | September 9, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am

Alibama is losing it.

Posted by: codeman | September 9, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am

Beatrice, thanks.
I too vote on the issues. My nubmer one issues is health care. When I read mcCain’s plan I cannot afford it. Under McCain we will no longer get employer sponsored health care. No only will the cost of the employer health care program be added to my income, I will incur a tax increase. If I don’t want my company’s health care plan, which costs them $9,000 I can buy my own for $15,000 per family. I am not liking that.

Posted by: julescator | September 9, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am

Please keep up with the DNC talking point insults. This is great!!! When are you going to start calling the hockey moms and independent white women “racists” now that they now that a majority support McCain? Please, please do not stop with the insults.

Posted by: eagle35 | September 9, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am

Well folks, if the Media and by that the likes of Cris Matthews and Keith Olbermann, well then Obama is a shoe in. But just maybe some people won’t let the Media chose the next President which they’ve tried do do for years.

Posted by: Rew | September 9, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am

Well folks, if the Media and by that the likes of Cris Matthews and Keith Olbermann, well then Obama is a shoe in. But just maybe some people won’t let the Media chose the next President which they’ve tried do do for years.

Posted by: Rew | September 9, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am

Bucho:
It’s confusing (to some of us) precisely because we do not know IF all residents of Guantanamo ARE enemy combatants. (If the government is releasing some, clearly not all are “foreign terrorists.”) That’s what Habeas is in place to determine.

Posted by: Kim | September 9, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am

It’s a joke to try to blame the Dems for how this war has gone. Let’s just forget about the GOP has been in the drivers seat for 6 of the last 8 years. The long parade of failed policies, tactics and politicians has all been courtesy of the Republican party. Trying to lay any of this at the feet of Dems in general and Obama in particular is beyond laughable. The attacks on Obama without taking responsibility for who brought us this far is typical of Republican tactics and rhetoric. Stop pretending that the GOP had nothing to do with it. The first step towards recovery is admitting you have a problem in the first place. How about an argument that cites FACTS? Saying that McSame and Palin are “Mavericks” isn’t enough to prove that this ticket will somehow transform Washington. How about some substance? Let’s see you PROVE IT.

Posted by: Jay In Dallas | September 9, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am

Listening to you Obamonites come unglued and unhinged to just too precious. I don’t know who is going to win, but reading your whines, insults, half truths you are parroting from the MoveOn.org types is hilarious.
You have let a 2 year, successful, strong Governor (who is not a Lib) with an approval rating above 80% make you crazy. If Obama can not handle this women how can he handle the country? This is just too good.

Posted by: eagle35 | September 9, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am

hey wasnt this country founded on christian values? we have fallen so far from that thanks to organizations like the aclu. separation of church and state didnt mean you cant have the 10 commandments up in a public place it means that the church isnt the govt & the govt isnt the church. the founders of this country would go friggin mad if they saw it today.
how many religious private schools have had shootings? how many have to have armed security guards because of the violence in the schools. when schools started out in this country they had prayer and religion. so its hard to believe that the so called scholars today could be even remotely correct in their understanding of the constitution and the intent of the founders of this country. since the schools of the founders time were teaching christian values THATS PROBABLY HOW THEY WANTED IT!

Posted by: SIM672 | September 9, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am

To Obama:
A candidate who is always on the defensive – will always lose to the candidate who is on the offense.
Quit squabbling about what others are saying about you – and start speaking about your flawed policies for America.
Either way – you are screwed.
You will never get the nomination again – ever.
Kick Rocks!!

Posted by: Jason | September 9, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am

The record is clear. The Dems took over both houses in 2006 and they have done nothing. They have a single digit approval rating. Pelosi and Reed are just punchlines of numerous jokes now. The conservative tried to tell them a raise in the minimum wage would increase unemployment particularly if done during a economic turndown and then when unemployment increases as predicted they blame Bush. Bush has tried during his entire terms to drill for American oil but was blocked by the Liberal Senate. This has also contributed to unemployment and inflation. There is plenty of blame to go around. The problem is not taxes. There has been a 20% increase in annual revenues in 8 years. The problem is spending from both sides. You think Obama will stop spending? McCain at least has a record in this regard.

Posted by: eagle35 | September 9, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am

By the looks of these boards, people don’t like Obama..period. I think he has insulted many of us and has shown he’s conceded, the most unattractive trait a person can have. His supporters continue to insult American’s and it’s a crowd I am happy not to be a part of.
McCain/Palin 2008!!

Posted by: Jadeus | September 9, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am

“What I have also said is this: that when you suspend habeas corpus — which has been a principle, dating before even our country, it’s the foundation of Anglo-American law — which says, very simply, if the government grabs you, then you have the right to at least ask, ‘Why was I grabbed?’ and say, ‘Maybe you’ve got the wrong person.’
The writ of habeas corpus serves as an important check on the manner in which state courts pay respect to federal constitutional rights. The writ is “the fundamental instrument for safeguarding individual freedom against arbitrary and lawless state action.” These are people who are not citizens, they do not and never have been given the rights that citizens of the United States have. In other words, Obama is wrong.

Posted by: Al-in-Indy | September 9, 2008, 11:17 am 11:17 am

Obama:
Quit Whining!
We already have you beat.
Stick to espousing the benefits of your policies. As that will at least make you look like a decent person when you have to congratulate the McCain/Palin camp on their historic win.
Additionally: Good luck on getting HRC to bring you on as VP in 2012 – after ignoring her as your potential VP.
Id iot!

Posted by: Jason | September 9, 2008, 11:18 am 11:18 am

Shameless is telling people that you’ll serve your full term in the Senate, then go back on your word. Shameless is attending a church for years that is anti-white and anti-semitic. Shameless is defending your church and your pastor, then denouncing them two weeks later. Shameless is being the first candidate since McCain/Feingold was passed to turn down federal campaign funds. Shameless is trying to portray yourself as anything other than one of the most drastically liberal members of the Senate. That’s what shameless is.

Posted by: Vast Right Wing Conspirator | September 9, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am

I find it amazing that people keep claiming that the Democrats have been running the country for the last 2 years. The slim majority the Democrats hold has been totally offset by Republican fillibusters and Bush himself. Get real…the Republicans have been running the country into the ground for the last 8 years…only idiots want 4 more years of Bush based policies. Obama is a highly educated man with a history of public service. McCain has one qualification…he was a POW. My father in law was a POW and he was in no way fit to run the country.

Posted by: tjs | September 9, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am

First Security and then Economy.
I trust McCain on those issues and he can make America strong.
I have followed the Economy and Security in Europe and how our Dollars dropped below Euro, I cannot trust the no executive experiences to run my country. Without security how are we going to have a strong Economy?
Most politicians give empty promises, but at least McCain has plenty experiences and he can make America safe then strong.
I am very scared to know Obama wants to run my country and he has no experiences.
I don’t trust Obama for many reasons and many people already knew the reasons why he cannot protect our great country from future attack.
I sometime asked myself “why the liberals chose Obama who has no experiences instead of many Black Americans who have more experiences and more intelligent than Obama?”
We have too many problems to solve after Bush whom I didn’t vote for, but Obama to solve? No, I don’t trust Obama with his empty promises and with no expereinces.
Thank you and please don’t attack me. I only expressed my concern for my great country.
With respect
Beatrice (Libertarian)

Posted by: Beatrice | September 9, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am

Looks like Pelosi’s puppet can’t handle the heat. O well…..

Posted by: JG | September 9, 2008, 11:34 am 11:34 am

One thing I am about 90% sure of–the position of President has become largely that of a figurehead: reassure folks in times of trouble, claim credit when times are good, blame others when times are bad, talk tough when required and above all, give good speeches with media appropriate sound-bites. Personally, my ideal president would be Morgan Freeman in the movie “Deep Impact”.

Posted by: Frank | September 9, 2008, 11:34 am 11:34 am

tjs, keep bashing a genuine war hero who paid the price. Compare this to the Messiah’s recent claim that he considered joining the military but didn’t because there was not a war he could fight in. This is just too good. I couldn’t stop laughing. Keep up the insults Libs, they are working quite well for you, aren’t they? Please, please do not stop.

Posted by: eagle35 | September 9, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am

This is too good. The latest insult is Palin hates eskimos and that is why the Republicans chose her to run on the ticket because she is a “racist” and that is who they (the Rep) wanted on the ticket.
Please do not stop this stuff. You Libs are coming completely unglued and it is a joy to watch.

Posted by: eagle35eag | September 9, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am

That’s right, Senator Obama, you can’t read ‘em their rights ’til you catch ‘em.
So far we’ve caught (and read Miranda rights to):
Sadaam Hussein
Ali Hassan Abd al-Majid al-Tikriti
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed
Ramzi Yousef
Mahmud Abouhalima
Mohammad Salameh
Nidal Ayyad
Abdul Rahman Yasin
Ahmad Ajaj
Salim Hamdan
Ali Daeem Ali
Awad Hamed al-Bandar
Abdullah Kadhem Roweed Al-Musheikhi
Taha Yassin Ramadan
Barzan Ibrahim al-Tikriti
Salim ‘Abdallah Ashur al-Shujayri
Ali Rash Nasir Jiyad al-Shammari
Abdulla Ibrahim Muhammed Hassan al Shadad
Khamis Farhan Khalaf Abd al Fahdawi
All terrorists held at Guantanamo
Other terrorists too numerous to mention
I doubt that you or the Democratic Party would have had the courage of conviction and strength to do what needed to be done to take these terrorists out of circulation. YOUR VP WANTS TO LOOK INTO PROSECUTING THOSE WHO DID!

Posted by: Ralphie | September 9, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am

The only army BO ever thought about joining was the Salvation Army. Then he found out it was a Christian organization and he decided to become a community organizer to pocket funds from John Q. Public and cozy up to William Ayers, Tony Resko and Reverend Wright.

Posted by: Jefferson | September 9, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am

It seems pretty clear to me that if Obama would’ve stopped talking about 6 months ago he’d be up in the polls like 65% to 35%, but he keeps talking. Everytime he opens his mouth he loses votes, why won’t his campaign staff force him to just stop talking?
I will say that as the person who claims to have the better temperment to be President, Obama sure is thin skinned and doesn’t seem to like taking what he dishes out at all.

Posted by: TJF | September 9, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am

If there’s anything the Republican Party loves to do it’s ignore the Constitution…well except half of the second amendment.

Posted by: Uzoma Peter Lane | September 9, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am

Rupublicans have been caught in many lies and they are still perpertuating those lies. They do not accept responsibility for the shame that they’ve brought onto this country. They lie about everything even their political records and use God to scare people into believing their lies. It is truly shameless when McCain/Palin manipulate their party base, the uneducated middle america evangelicals, because they know how to pander to their ignorance and unelightened mindset just to get themselves in office. And for what? They have no interest in doing whats right for America. They just owe big oil and in the military-industrial complex lots and lots of favors.

Posted by: Mark | September 9, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am

“Bill Clinton didn’t have terrorist fly planes into our buildings” Exactly, George Bush did and he is supposed to get credit for allowing that to happnen on his watch?? I know you want to say it’s because of Clinton’s inaction, which is total BS. The fact of the matter is George Bush downgraded the terrorist Czar from a cabinet level postion and cut the budget for fighting terrorism and moved his focus to building a missle defense system. He received a Presidental Daily Briefing on August 6th, 2001 which stated “Bin Laden determined to strike within the United States” and futher down in the text it described how he intended to use airplanes to fly into our buildings and what did George Bush do? The answer is nothing — he stayed on vacation on his fake ranch in Texas and played cowboy and now you think he is some kind of hero because he went to Irag before he caught or killed those terrorist who flew planes into our buildings. George Bush is probably the worst American in the history of this county, he represents everything that is evil and false and peopele who follow him can only be delusion to believe he is anything but.

Posted by: wareagle | September 9, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am

“Take ‘em out?” I guess that’s one way to get around habeas corpus. Brilliant soultion, Obama! And this guy was a law school professor? Can you say, “affirmative action?”

Posted by: manlyman | September 9, 2008, 11:52 am 11:52 am

Remember, folks, a tax increase ANYWHERE is a tax increase on EVERY one…
Historical fact:
When corporations have been taxed more, the cost of their goods and services went up. Meaning, the cost of living for you and me goes up.
Historical fact:
When taxes have been lowered, people and corporations have had more money to spend, and the government ended up with more money (than they would have with a tax increase) since they tax every time money changes hands.
A candidate that is telling you that you and I won’t be affected by his taxation on the large corporations “who can afford to be taxed more” (Obama said that in his interview with Bill O’Reily last night), is showing you his lack of understanding of how the economy works.

Posted by: mnuhmnuh | September 9, 2008, 11:52 am 11:52 am

I can’t believe some of the comments of you people. Do any of you even work for a living. If you did, you’d see that McCain/Paulin are not for the working class of America. Their policies will only hurt those of us who do not come from wealthy family’s and who do not have a large trust fund. He will continue to give tax breaks to Millionaires/Billionaires who run fortune 500 companies because he believes in trickle down economics. What a Crock of S*it. How many of you actually believe that the rich and powerful of this country would give anything to someone who is less fortunate than themselves, is a joke that’s never been funny. Before you criticize how Barrak’s policies will fail, why don’t you read up on the two candidates and they’ll clearly show that McCain will cost the taxpayers of this country more money than O’Bama would. Not to mention that all of this crap is comming from a former POW who knows the full extent of being in combat, but continues to put the American Military in harms way. How can he respectfully call himself an Patriot when he wants more troops involved in a war that only costs the taxpayers more money. Money that can be used to better our schools and our economy instead of shipping our hard earned dollars overseas to make other countries richer. And this is the guy that you people want to run our country…..
Wake up and smell what your shoveling people cuz 4 years of McCain/Paulin will be the same as the last 8 years of Bush/Cheney….
BTW how’s this recession benefiting you.
O’Bama’s got my vote…..

Posted by: T | September 9, 2008, 11:52 am 11:52 am

Imagine the following scenarios:
Q) Mr. President – The Russians have invaded Germany! What should we do?
A) Present.
Q) Mr. President – OPEC has announced they are stopping sales of oil to the U.S. How will we handle it?
A) Present.
Q) Mr. President – We’ve just had a dirty bomb (nuclear) detonate in New York City. What do we do now?
A) Present.
This is what a Barry Soetoro presidency means to America.

Posted by: Martin | September 9, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am

Obama is right. You can make a long list of terrorist taxi drivers arrested after 9/11, but the big man is still operating and growing stronger in the Pakistan/Afghanistan border because of the oilboy republican’s insistence on fighting the last war. Idiocy will continue if McCain wins.

Posted by: Gene Voce | September 9, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am

This forum is full of the same fools who voted for Bush twice and that have put this country on the road to disaster. Go ahead and vote for that walking corpse McSame and his Bride of Frankenstein and see what that will get you.

Posted by: John Che | September 9, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am

Wareagle, a little news for you in case you don’t know. BUSH IS NOT RUNNING!!! If Obama had joined the military, as he claimed he considered doing, I am sure the whole world we be at peace now and we would singing camp fire songs and holding hands.

Posted by: eagle35eag | September 9, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am

Sorry again Kate. Its my business to know about the GSE’s. Whether it be Fannie, Freddie, FFCB, FHLB, Farmer Mac, or even TVA, they all are chartered by Congress. As such they receive benefits in kind because of the implicit guarantee from the Federal Government. All of these entities except for FFCB have a line of credit at the U.S. Treasury Dept. Their quasi public status means they are regulated differently than their private competitors. As a result, their capital requirements are also less than their private competitors. Another big cost born by taxpayers is that neither Fannie or Freddie have to pay State or Local income taxes. Do you really believe that if they were “private” companies with no government backing that the bond market would have considered their debt AAA given their toxic balance sheet. Give it up and try finding a topic that you know something about.

Posted by: leinies02 | September 9, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am

If Obama is so correct about his opinion, then were are Bill and Hillary to back it up???

Posted by: patman | September 9, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am

julescator-
I have been reading the comments for over an hour and your comments really stand out. At some point we all tell on ourselves and you are doing a great job of representing Obama. I was undecieded and looking at ALL of the issues just wanted to say thanks for helping me choose McCain-Palin I know for sure now if your for Obama I am for McCain!!!

Posted by: Keith | September 9, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am

I am appalled to see any well thinking American suggesting that any person, regardless of their crime, does not have a right to a fair process. They should be read their right. Does anyone realize that any form of injustice for one person could spill over to your own. What if your own son or daughter was in the wrong place and the wrong time and was taken by any law enforcement personnell. Would you not want a fair process for them? You should all think things through carefully and intelligently before opening up your mouths. A person’s freedom and liberty is valuable and is protected under the constitution. Grow up and be smart instead of shooting breeze. signed: A worried Canadian who travels to the States often.

Posted by: Cher | September 9, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am

John che says: “Go ahead and vote for that walking corpse McSame and his Bride of Frankenstein and see what that will get you.”
Please do not stop insulting senior citizens and a female Governor with an 82% approval rating. How is that working for you? Please keep the insults coming. You fools do not realize how great it is to hear all these rants. Don’t forget to call her a “racist” because she does not like Eskimos either. (the latest Moveon type claim). Please don’t stop.

Posted by: eagle35eag | September 9, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm

You all missed his point though…
“Catch them first…” THEN give them rights, a trial, spend millions of dollars and countless months trying them in the media court of public appeal.
Of course, the big caveat here is whether or not they “can be caught”… which is solely dependent on the amount of effort one puts into catching them.
So in short, Obama says IF he ever catches them, then he would indeed be more concerned about their rights.
He’s a slick one… you gotta watch him.
Scott

Posted by: Scott | September 9, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm

Wareagle, say hi to cousin Neville Chamberlain.Slick Willy had several chances to “get” Binladen & refused because of his POLITICAL view that the world wouldn’t like it.The 1993 WTC attack was President Bush’s fault also I assume War less eagle? The lefties like to rewrite history.Sorry it doesn’t work that way no matter how hard you try.
Vote for O’carter???

Posted by: bill | September 9, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm

Sorry folks, as far as trickle down economics working, that’s a fact — refer to American economy in the years following Reagan’s implementation of related policies. Even Clinton got to ride the benefits of Reagan’s wave for awhile, and even took credit for the (then) current state of the economy. But as you know, the larger the vehicle, the longer the amount of time it takes to start or stop it. Clinton’s policies began to reverse the economic status and, naturally, the following administration will reap the crop previously sown. So everyone bashes Bush, ignorantly failing to follow the economic timeline… Well, that’s American politics for you.

Posted by: NCman | September 9, 2008, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm

“These people are shameless”. Now isn’t that the pot calling the kettle black?
“I’m not going to describe in an ad that I did something that is opposite of what I did.” That’s because he has never done anything of importance except further his own career and write two books about it.

Posted by: LadyPenelope | September 9, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm

What i really dont understand, maybe someone can explain it to me. Why would Obama vote present instead of taking a stand?? I mean isnt that why you go to office? To make a change and do something? I mean when people ask me if i like vanilla or chocolate ice cream i dont say present. I make a choice and lean a certain way. Seriously why did he vote present so much???????

Posted by: gregg | September 9, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm

Obama has little to offer besides judgment and change. He opposed the surge and was proven wrong. Then he lied about it in his acceptance speech. He then chose Senator Biden as a running mate. Biden has been in Washington longer than McCain.
Bad judgment, not much change, and not much hope if Obama becomes president.

Posted by: James | September 9, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm

Obama has little to offer besides judgment and change. He opposed the surge and was proven wrong. Then he lied about it in his acceptance speech. He then chose Senator Biden as a running mate. Biden has been in Washington longer than McCain.
Bad judgment, not much change, and not much hope if Obama becomes president.

Posted by: James | September 9, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm

Do you expect a soldier in a war zone who captures a terrorist on the battle field to rope off the scene, gather evidence, read him his rights, and supply him with an attorney? This is impossible in a war zone. If this goes to a criminal court in the U.S. it would be impossible to convict the scum of a parking violation. This is the real world not some TV show. Geez the ignorance is unbelievable!!!

Posted by: eagle35eag | September 9, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm

QUOTE: “It’s confusing (to some of us) precisely because we do not know IF all residents of Guantanamo ARE enemy combatants. (If the government is releasing some, clearly not all are “foreign terrorists.”) That’s what Habeas is in place to determine.”
You are mistaken. That is what military tribunals are for. The Geneva convention – to which we are co-signers to – does not recognize habeas corpus for those who fall outside the criteria of a “prisoner of war”. In fact, it grants us full rights to KILL ON THE SPOT (execution style, before or after interrogation) any person found to be waging war outside of the context of a recognized infantry. (i.e. – not wearing national military uniform/insignia)
QUOTE: “I am appalled to see any well thinking American suggesting that any person, regardless of their crime, does not have a right to a fair process. They should be read their right. Does anyone realize that any form of injustice for one person could spill over to your own. What if your own son or daughter was in the wrong place and the wrong time and was taken by any law enforcement personnell.”
You are only apalled because your life has obviously never been threatened. If my children were either brave or foolish enough to take up arms against a mechanized army, I’d give them this advice: think about what you are about to do, and what you are willing to risk. If you want to play, you must pay. We must all decide what we live and die for in this world, and we should govern ouselves accordingly. Any smart parent knows this!

Posted by: Bucho | September 9, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm

mnuhmnuh,
It’s your ignorance on display: the higher the federal deficit, the higher interest rates, the greater indebtedness of the country, and the decreased liquidity of banks to loan (who reserve money to loan to the federal government). If businesses cannot borrow, they cannot grow. The deficit has ballooned under Bush, and the McCain tax plan promises the same. Independent non-partisan tax groups (more than one) have estimated that the McCain plan will add 1.5 TRILLION dollars in deficit above Obama’s plan. Now that’s fiscal responsibility.
If tax cuts for the wealthy work so well, how is it that every Republican administration has increased our deficit–and the only budget surplus in recent memory has been under a Democrat? McCain further wants to keep spending 10 billion dollars a month in Iraq–a country with a budget surplus. So the idea that Obama plans to spend more than McCain is patently false. He just wants to spend the money here at home.
And that bridge to no where? The bridge might not be there, but the federal funds went into the coffers of Alaska. A state that currently has a huge surplus due to the high gas prices that the rest of the country is paying. Very principled move.

Posted by: Kim | September 9, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm

Obama is losing in the polls and it doesn’t look like he’s going to be king of the world. There’s HOPE after all!

Posted by: KoKoMo | September 9, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm

During this election, we, the American people, have been spoon fed by the media. Rhetoric, cartoons, and campaign propaganda are what we have received, instead of each candidate’s true agenda. What I want from the Democratic Party is their definition of Progressive and how it fits into the lives of all Americans. What I want from the Republican Party is similar. After all, no one wants to be labeled backward, but I feel if we are given the truth, then this election would be over.

Posted by: Lenora | September 9, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm

Obama has little to offer besides judgment and change. He opposed the surge and was proven wrong. Then he lied about it in his acceptance speech. He then chose Senator Biden as a running mate. Biden has been in Washington longer than McCain.
Bad judgment, not much change, and not much hope if Obama becomes president.

Posted by: James | September 9, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm

Obama has little to offer besides judgment and change. He opposed the surge and was proven wrong. Then he lied about it in his acceptance speech. He then chose Senator Biden as a running mate. Biden has been in Washington longer than McCain.
Bad judgment, not much change, and not much hope if Obama becomes president.

Posted by: James | September 9, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm

At least if Obama loses, you libs will have someone to blame again for the next four years. After eight years of attacking Bush and this country with negative hyperbole, you’ve been able fool a few more people. Maybe another four years will turn the tide for you.

Posted by: KokoMo | September 9, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm

Reading over these comments, I’m amazed how many Republicans are unemployed. With this much free time on their hands, you would think they’d volunteering in their communities, helping those around them, you know…living up to their alleged principles.

Posted by: Justin Boland | September 9, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm

I AGREE…….OBAMA AND BIDEN ARE SHAMELESS AND NOT WORTHY OF INHABITING THE WHITE HOUSE.
BYE BYE DEMOCRATS
McCAIN/PALIN ’08
PALIN IN 2012 OR 2016

Posted by: Janetta | September 9, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm

Only legal immigrants/visitors and citizens should have rights to habeas corpus. Other terrorists should be detained forever with the key thrown away.

Posted by: Mike | September 9, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm

QUOTE: “Reading over these comments, I’m amazed how many Republicans are unemployed. With this much free time on their hands, you would think they’d volunteering in their communities, helping those around them, you know…living up to their alleged principles. ”
Try self-employed… And making enough money to spend my day hours as I see fit. (and still managing to provide jobs for people like you)
What makes you qualified to assume that people are either Republican, or non-volunteers? Does not supporting Obama make someone a Republican? What if I don’t like McCain, either? Does that make me a Democrat?
Some critical thinking skills are in big need, and short supply over there.

Posted by: Bucho | September 9, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm

KoKoMo,
Those are interesting points you brought up and I will think about them, but I think you overlooked my point which was:
* For a candidate to tell the “average joe” that they won’t be affected by larger corporations being taxed more, is irresponsible.
The fact remains, a tax increase ANYWHERE will result in a tax increase on us all.
Corporations can’t just “absorb” that tax -they pass it on to the consumer by raising the cost of their goods and services.

Posted by: mnuhmnuh | September 9, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm

I can only assume that the people here bashing Obama must be wealthy and are feating that their OVER $250,000 of income will be taxed more than usual. MOST of us don’t earn nearly that amount of money, despite our Masters degrees and working 60 + hours per week. Oh….you don’t earn over $250,000 per year, then why are you backing McCain and Sister Palin?

Posted by: timid_waffle | September 9, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm

“If you’ve got a terrorist, take ‘em out.”
Meaning what? Dinner and a movie? Gitmo is a no-no for Libs. Killing them “only creates more terrorists.” So what does he mean when he says “take them out?” Obama is the master of using thousands and thousands of words to say absolutely nothing.

Posted by: Mark D | September 9, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm

I can only assume that the people here bashing Obama must be wealthy and are feating that their OVER $250,000 of income will be taxed more than usual. MOST of us don’t earn nearly that amount of money, despite our Masters degrees and working 60 + hours per week. Oh….you don’t earn over $250,000 per year, then why are you backing McCain and Sister Palin? Perhaps you want to force those young girls who were raped by Daddy to have that child…..Don’t we want less goverment control? So why Sister Palin should the government make me have that child produced from Rape and a Relative??!!

Posted by: timid_waffle | September 9, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm

The rest of the world is in favor of Obama. What does that tell you. He’s the weakest. Coddling terroists will not be the only problem when the rest of the world realizes we are run by and appeaser.

Posted by: Rich | September 9, 2008, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm

Obama.
Ayers.
Obama.
Ayers.
Obama.
Ayers.
One and the same and best friends, too!
Class dismissed!
USVet you forgot to add Rezko in that line

Posted by: oneforMcCain | September 9, 2008, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm

The rest of the world is in favor of Obama. What does that tell you. He’s the weakest. Coddling terroists will not be the only problem when the rest of the world realizes we are run by and appeaser.

Posted by: Rich | September 9, 2008, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm

There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
There is no connection between Iraq and the 9/11 terrorists.
Hussein had absolutely nothing to do with the attacks on 9/11.
Hussein is currently dead.
Why are we wasting our time in Iraq again? Oh yeah, to set up a democracy in a country that has nothing to do with our primary targets. Americans and their logic is amazing. We deserve high gas prices, more dead troops, poor economy, more foreclosed homes, increased prescription drug costs, lack of insurance coverage, higher college tuition costs. One party has been in power over the past 8 years. Even when the dems tried to do something different, it would just only be vetoed by the one person in the one party who has the highest seat in the land. Republicans are doing a wonderful job. Mccain/Palin in ’08!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: e_swift | September 9, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm

I’m 41 years old. My family has always voted Democrat, all the way back to my Great grandmother. I don’t really know why. We just did. I have never been really excited about voting for a candidate. But this year I can’t wait!
Sarah Palin has really opened my eyes. She inspries fear and loathing from people I generally disagree with. This year I am voting Republican! McCain you are either lucky or smart for choosing this woman. Watching the reaction my side has given, has switched me to your side.

Posted by: Ex -Democrat | September 9, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm

Wow. I’ve been reading the comments, and I’m shocked. This article is about a real issue, and so many of you can only toot your horns and b**** at each other like a bunch of 6 year olds on a dodgeball field. Think hard, everyone, look deep inside yourselves and at the world around you, before you start slinging party cliches and empty disses. We are the facing the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression, we’re waging multiple no-end-in-sight wars, and soldiers are dying every day.
For gods sake everybody, stop taking soundbites from campaign managers for hard truth. Stop explaining away hypocrisy and bald lies with flag-waving empty slogans. Stop acting out the stupid lazy Americans stereotype, and think harder and better about the REAL challenges that face us RIGHT NOW.

Posted by: jen12 | September 9, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm

Jen12,
Exactly !!!
Vote McCAIN/PALIN 2008

Posted by: quibbles | September 9, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm

To: timid_waffle. It’s not that people against Obama make more than $250,000, it’s that we’re not communists. My Daughter is in college at 50,000/year, my annual salary, but it’s not the govenments job (other taxpayers) to pay for her. I have healthcare through my wife’s work, but it’s not the governments job. If I want a Vette instead of healthcare, that’s my choice. For a party that so pro-choice when it comes to abortion, its amazing that you want to give every responsibility to the gov’t and rely on them to solve all of your problems.

Posted by: Tom Genin | September 9, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm

Tom G – that’s an interesting point you made. Hard to argue with.

Posted by: mnuhmnuh | September 9, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm

“If you’ve got a terrorist, take him out”.
I wish Bill Clinton had thought that way. We might never had to of dealt with any of this if he did.

Posted by: Shannon | September 9, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm

Since when was Habeas Corpus a bad thing? She mocked the constitution like it was this horrible thing. Doesn’t anyone believe in rights anymore. Isn’t that what America is all about? The real America, the one that actually includes everyone. Remember? That was what was supposed to make us different from any other country on this planet. That as our proud legacy. Why are we ruining it? Wasn’t 8 years of this mentality enough?

Posted by: sandra | September 9, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm

Blah blah blah, “Habeaus Corpus” is just the French way of saying “I surrender”.
Let’s face it, the founding fathers were living in a different time, had little to no respect for authority, and were by and large elitists. We need to fight terrorists the way they fight us, shoot first and ask questions later.

Posted by: IvyMike | September 9, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm

“Republicans, he suggested, “should spend their time trying to catch Osama bin Laden” instead of worry about what to do with him after he’s caught.”
Doesn’t that just say it all? He starts with the word “republicans”. I thought he was trying to unify the country and the parties? Shouldn’t it be, “All parties should be…”
I would like to address a comment made earlier by somone who thinks it’s ok to abort a child, if it’s a result of rape. While rape is an awful, awful thing, why does a child who didn’t ask for anything, be killed? There is an alternative, it’s called: Adoption. Think of the child as a blessing amidst horrific circumstances. Who knows, maybe there is a special purpose for that child, but if the angry/easy way is taken, the world would never find out.
You Liberal thinking democrats only want a handout. “What can my country do for me…I’m entitled.”
Let’s not forget, your golden boy Clinton, had the benefit of a Republican controlled congress. There’s your reason for the economy doing so well. Bush, comes into office, and the Dems take with control in the senate…Well, well…surprise, surprise, we’re in the toilet.
You want lower taxes and more money in your pocket? Vote McCain/Palin. You people that want to tax big corporations and the rich. Let’s not forget, it’s those with money that create jobs. I personally would rather work for someone who has money, than someone who doesn’t. Government jobs are nothing but a drain on the economy. Why? Because, you John Q. Taxpayer pays those positions. It’s always been the private sector/corporations that move and shake the economy.
Any candidate that thinks it’s smart to tax “big oil” is an idiot. Period. Play that scenario out. Our government taxes oil. What happens? You think the oil companies are going to say “Oh, I’m sorry, I’ll eat that tax increase.” No way, that relates directly to your wallet, and you the taxpayer will pay for that increase.
Let’s talk about not drilling and this BS that is Ethanol. Wonder why food prices go up? Because the price of corn went up to produce this waste of time.
Petroleum is and always will be one of the lifebloods of this country. Drill on our own soil, and let’s start making our own demands.
And lastly, ask yourself, since 9/11, have we been attacked on our own soil? I thought not. Silly Liberals, America is not for you.

Posted by: anim8tr | September 9, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm

I see people around me losing their jobs daily. I don’t understand why anyone who has been affected by the economy, which is pretty much everyone, would vote for McCain. The trickle down theory is BS, by the way. Do you really think CEOs make more money and then decide to give more to their employees out of the goodness of their hearts? I don’t think so. It never worked before and won’t work this time. Why, after 8 years of going down hill, do people not want to learn from their mistakes and change? Did you know that democrats are much more likely than republicans to have their passports? You republicans who haven’t travelled beyond your small world should get out their and see how well the rest of the liberal world lives! You think it’s bad that the rest of the world likes Obama? I think we could use some friends. What’s so great about being hated by everyone? It’s embarrassing.
Also, you people think it’s so great that Palin is “ordinary?” I’m sorry, but why would you want the leaders of your country to be ordinary? I want mine to be anything but that! I want mine to be the most intelligent, forward thinking people, like Obama, who gives us hope because he has come so far.
Would you really rather have a president with a bad temper and a VP who wants to force rape victims to keep their babies, to teach creationism in schools, and someone who knows nothing about economics? She doesn’t even know what Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac is!! How does she not know this stuff??!! No wonder they’ve been keeping her from interviews!!! I should also add that she belonged to a pentecostal church for 20 years, where people speak in tongues and where her pastor preached that attacks on Israelis are God judging them for not believing in Christ!
Is this who you want leading out nation if something happens to McCain, God forbid?!
I would be terrified if they won. I think that would be the end of us.

Posted by: Jessica | September 9, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm

People, People, People, the idiots that bought houses and cars and things they couldnt afford messed up the economy, not George Bush…want to see what living on the government dole does to people, watch the reruns of the New Orleans evacuation…they literally throw themselves on the ground and wait for the government to rescue them….that is exactly what dependency does..

Posted by: Steve | September 9, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm

Jessica,
Please stop the lying about Palin’s church and faith. None of what you said is even remotely true.
Why all the anger? Study the issues and the policies. Focus. Stop hating and stop lying.
When McCain-Palin win this historical election, you will see real “change” and real “hope” because they have experience and a track record for being Mavericks and against the Washington establishment.

Posted by: Hailey | September 9, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm

Its going to be Obama hands down. Everything else is just gravy. The GOP is on the attack way too much and its showing through. ITs been too much garbage for too long and to just have McCain come up and say “change” with nothing to back it. So sad.

Posted by: JD | September 9, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm

By the way, he is cutting taxes for 95% of you!
Jessica I would like to know where you are getting your facts. Seriously. Last I have read he wants to raise federal and death taxes just to name 2 of them.

Posted by: oneforMcCain | September 9, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm

Shameless, from a Democrat who still thinks bill Clinton walks on water?
Talk about hypocritical. The only difference between this guy and a snake is that, unfortunately this guy can speak.

Posted by: Jack Collins | September 9, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm

Jessica: Obama’s tax plan will only benefit those who pay no taxes today. Anyone who pays taxes will see their taxes increased under him and the cost of living and necessities will almost double with his policies, which means even less in your purse.
Bill O’Reilly set him straight last night about his Socialist Income Redistribution Plan and we saw NObama him and hah because he couldn’t deny it.

Posted by: Leslie | September 9, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm

Sorry Libs – your Trojan Horse has been exposed – oh my!

Posted by: David J | September 9, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm

Its going to be Obama hands down. Everything else is just gravy.
JD thenh please explain the 15 point lead McCain holds today…..

Posted by: oneforMcCain | September 9, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm

who cares if obama is islamic? what does that matter? Are you assuming all islamic people are terrorits? Or that makes Obama any less patriotic? you know all these candidates have been working for the people because they love America. Questioning a candidates patriotism is foolish.
Please educate yourself before you vote.

Posted by: Jaydee | September 9, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm

and obama had an 8 point lead a week ago, it makes no difference in how im going to vote. Is that how you vote?

Posted by: Jaydee | September 9, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm

Obama is a follower of the moron named Saul Alinsky. Crush and Destroy your opponent and tell the world anything they desire even if you tell someone else a different thing the next day. The people are too stupid to catch your lies.

Posted by: Eric | September 9, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm

All the libs can take a deep breath, relax, let it go, it’s over. It was fun while it lasted, but we can take things from here.

Posted by: D. Marshall | September 9, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm

I wouldnt vote for him for dog catcher…doesnt matter what he says or does, he is a liberal democrat, I dont vote for those clowns, costs me money that I earn, went to college to ensure I earn and I dont want it redistributed…I earned it, its that simple. Its not racist, if Clarence Thomas or Walter Williams were running I would sure as hell vote for them…

Posted by: Steve | September 9, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

Everything Obama is proposing to do will destroy the US economy and bring much worse misery than Bush did. Obama wants to invade Pakistan and that would be much worse than the war with Iraq. All of Obama’s big government plans have been tried by the Democrats in the past and failed. Only really stupid people listen to Obama, it’s a good thing for America Obama will lose the election.

Posted by: goodbyeUSA | September 9, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm

Steve wait until you see how much $$ you lose from the Fannie and freddie your GOP government just took over. OUCH! whats that? oh thats your pocketbook.
Is funny how the GOP stands for less government and there they go…bailing out Fannie and Freddie.

Posted by: Jaydee | September 9, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm

it’s not clear if palin’s hiding anything, as she’s only been in the spotlight for a few days. she’ll be examined more and more, i’m sure.
it IS VERY CLEAR that barrack is hiding parts of his past, though, and he has not been examined very well at all by most of the media.
he won’t do tough interviews.
he won’t debate until he has to.
he has changed his stance on nearly everything in the past 4 or 5 months.
will he change back after elected or not?
hey barrack, what are you affraid of?
DEBATE!
if you got a pair, you should debate mark levin. but i guess you don’t and won’t.
good luck with the rougue leaders out there, yo.

Posted by: ron | September 9, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm

I really believe that the phoney press conference that BO, gave this morning was such a set up. They really think the American people are stupid that they could not see that those 3 so called questions given by the reporters where real. Please give the American people a break. By the way the pirahans and the aligators are sharpening their teeth regarding Palin,thank God for her. McCain is really a Maveric and does not give a D..what others think, He is mature, honest and knows how to run a country when the country is in trouble, this is no time for a Pretender in an empty suit for of styrophone, and a sourpuss VP,who are so negative about America. OBiden has a problem even smiling. They say they worry that Palin is one heart beat away from the presidency, But,how about that nightmare who is only two heartbeats away…ready..POLOSI. ugggggggg…….Say no to NObama/Nobiden

Posted by: cecimor | September 9, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

goodbye, what is excatly Obama’s economic plan? You seem to know. Last I knew basically Obamas plan will save everyone making less than $250M a year some real tax dollars.
You see MCcains plan to cut corproate taxes is useless b/c Coproations manage down the bottom line to not pay taxes anyway! Do you get it? Now if there was a revenue tax that was shared by the purchases and the seller, we might be talking some turkey. but a bigger tax cut for corporations, pluhesee. I’ve seen way too many tax returns to believe that mularkey.

Posted by: Jaydee | September 9, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm

goodbye, what is excatly Obama’s economic plan? You seem to know. Last I knew basically Obamas plan will save everyone making less than $250M a year some real tax dollars.
You see MCcains plan to cut corproate taxes is useless b/c Coproations manage down the bottom line to not pay taxes anyway! Do you get it? Now if there was a revenue tax that was shared by the purchases and the seller, we might be talking some turkey. but a bigger tax cut for corporations, pluhesee. I’ve seen way too many tax returns to believe that mularkey.

Posted by: Jaydee | September 9, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm

OBAMA = LOOOOHOOOOHOOOOHOOOHOOOHOOOSER!

Posted by: djsgt | September 9, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm

Obama’s leadership experience is ZERO.
He has lead nothing. Obama votes “present” on difficult issues.
John McCain has FOUGHT his own party for what he believes in…Obama does NOT.
Obama was against drilling before he was for drilling the OCS. Since his party has been against drilling in the USA for more than 30 years…I don’t trust them with the future of our country.
Yes, McCain was against drilling the OCS before he was for it, BUT the Republicans have never been UNITED against NUCLEAR ENERGY and drilling the OCS like the Democrats.
It all adds up to a vote for McCain/Palin because I can’t trust the Democrats to put our country first and environmentalists second.
BTW, the FEDERAL RESERVE caused this housing and financial crisis by raising the FED overnight rate many times. The FED did the very same thing leading up to the year 2000 market collapse.
It wasn’t Bush that did this. It WAS the FEDERAL RESERVE under Bernanke.
I love my country and I support it with the BEST available people I can vote for… McCain/Palin 08.

Posted by: Search4Truth | September 9, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm

Unfortunately, they are bailing out Freddie and Fannie to save the idiots that were so smug over the past 5 years doing their flipping house routine and buying houses they could not afford…they should have let the bottom drop out…

Posted by: Steve | September 9, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm

Last I knew a military guy made a horrible president. can anyone say Eisenhower?

Posted by: Jaydee | September 9, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm

Steve the GOP did not hold the people in control of freddie and fannie accountable!! A free pass for the wealthy. yeah sign me up for more of that!

Posted by: Jaydee | September 9, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm

This blog is so far into Obama’s pockets, it’s a joke. How is this considered objective journalism?

Posted by: frank | September 9, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm

This blog is so far into Obama’s pockets, it’s a joke. How is this considered objective journalism?

Posted by: frank | September 9, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm

Obama now spends more time covering is tracks, being on the defensive and whining about what is said about him in a political campaign. Does he not know, “Politics is a contact sport” and his faux pas and gaffes are going to cause him nagging problems and problems that cause him to nag.
Obama, you are playing in the big leagues, for you to break down and whine to all who listen is not going to gain you a favorable position. This is a direct exposure of character and if you have any then it’s best you use it to your advantage. So far your platform leans to much on taxable wealth disribution and little emphasis on energy and resources development, this is a mater of national independence and security in a growing ever hostile world. It will take a strong willful leader to make this country maintain it’s freedom, prosperity and a improving future, your not offering any proof of substance.

Posted by: ONTIME | September 9, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm

Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. I am the great and powerful Obama!!!

Posted by: mr sender | September 9, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm

Obama is yesterdays news already. It was only a matter of time before everyone realized the emperor has no clothes. Come on now – how many major policies has he flip-flopped on in 3 months? Soldiers out of Iraq, Campaign Financing, Offshore drilling, rescinding the Bush tax cuts, and the surge that ‘wasn’t working’. Everything this guy stood for he has now flip-flopped on. Don’t you people realize? HE IS MAKING IT UP AS HE GOES ALONG! he is a fraud and finally – people are starting to realize all this.

Posted by: Robert NYC | September 9, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm

thats right ron, but the GOP had been in control for EIGHT years. sorry

Posted by: Jaydee | September 9, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm

I remember over the last eight years Greespan was warning about freddie and fannie and the government did nothing about it……him makes me think of a particular document also ignored by the GOP when in government…. something about a terrorist attack on the US….it was completely ignored can you helpme on it?

Posted by: Jaydee | September 9, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm

This political in-fighting will divide this nation. Everyday I see us dividing more and more. It almost feels like the 1800′s all over again. Too many of us are dead set on a philosophy without any rational thought about how this presidential election will effect us. Please do your homework honestly and genuinely. I know its difficult for the right to have an open mind, but give it a shot. If you don’t, and you do cause another 4 years of the most hated political thought since Mao and Lenin (yes, the neocons are seen that in that light across the globe), you will loose all of the so-called elitist over-educated liberals to other countries and you can watch those regions have economic booms and your irrational stubbornness will leave you with nothing.

Posted by: Bobby | September 9, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm

Champ, you have anyhting to say that has substance? your reply is the typical BS from the GOPers I cant stand. The republicans sound like the boy who lost his little red ball and now theyre blaming everyone and everything. so sad

Posted by: Jaydee | September 9, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm

jaydee
Which corporations don’t pay taxes?
Exxon, paid $30 BILLION in 2007, $28 BILLION in 2006
Are there some companies not paying taxes, sure. But too say all aren’t paying is just childish.
Anyway, do you really think any corporation really “pays” taxes. They just pass them on to you and me. Even your precious Ben & Jerrys or your wonderfull Mr. Soros just pass the cost on to the consumer.

Posted by: Fed Up With Liberalism | September 9, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm

Obama’s intellect is taxed by dreaming up new threats and failings allegedly posed by McCain and/or Palin. Obama has lied more and done less since 1992 than McCain and Palin combined. Add that whackjob Biden to the mix, and you have two charred pots calling their opponents black. Obamoonies and the far left zealots don’t have a plan, or a clue, or the intestinal fortitude, or the intellectual honesty to cut the social handouts, expel the illegals, tap into our national resources, oust the entrenched public service union parasites, and lay physical waste to our enemies, their supporters, and their homelands. Obama, Biden, Pelosi, Reid, and their minions are domestic enemies that pose a clear and present danger to our national security.

Posted by: mhu cao | September 9, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm

Obama chose the wrong running mate-it should have been Clinton because everyone knows that Biden is a 29 year veteran Washington hack and that is what we are all sick of, plus Palin represents something that powerful among women(other than the radicals for abortion). She can do it all with her children and the VP job the same as Obama with his children so stop the attacks on a very popular woman.

Posted by: rockychance | September 9, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm

jaydee, Ask yourself why did Freddie and Fannie give one million dollars to the Democrats….and why did Chris Dodd and Kent Conrad get special loans from Countrywide and refuse to refinance them. Chris Dodd and Kent Conrad should be cencured and booted out the door but then as Democrats it is expected so their seats are safe.

Posted by: Champsummers | September 9, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm

The bottom line to all this is that if you really think there is going to be a revolution of change in this country caused by some politician, you are a fool…regardless of party, the best interest of any politician is to stay in office and be re-elcted over and over…its not your interest they are in for, it is there own. I thought the war in Iraq was going to be done when the San Francisco hag got here…thats what you liberal clowns voted for…what happened…take care of yourselves, they sure arent going to do it for you…Tom Bradys injury has more lasting affects on your every day life than any politician does.

Posted by: Steve | September 9, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm

You know, for BHO being a “former Constitutional Law professor”, he sure needs to go back and read the Constitution and he needs to pay particular attention to the 14th Amendment to the Constitution.
The 14th Amendment defines who is a U.S. Citizen and outlines what protections they have, no matter what state they’re in. It also states who else is afforded the protection’s guaranteed by the Constitution when it states: “…nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”
Since GITMO is not a State within the 50 (or 57 as BHO said) United States, nor is it a U.S. Territory; nor is Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan or any other country or territory belonging to another country, so unless the terrorists are captured on U.S. soil, and keep in mind, GITMO is NOT U.S. soil, it’s Cuban soil, then they are not afforded the protections of the Constitution and Habeas Corpus is NOT a factor.
And I would suggest, before anyone debates my statements, please read the 14th Amendment…or better yet, read the whole Constitution including the Amendments.

Posted by: JR Ewing | September 9, 2008, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm

Ok Fed up thats one company you gave me….one. $30Billion isnt near enough. not even close. And I doubt your figure b/c if you really knew youd give me the yead end or something of more substance.
Tax cuts go in the pocket. Id rather have a tax cvut in my pocket than the coporations pocket, b/c guess what? theyre not going to hire anyone they dont think they need.

Posted by: Jaydee | September 9, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

Jimmy Carter was last military president? that only stengthens my point. Carter and Eisnehower were both lame. And commenter calling himself Hillary, You are really dumb to think Obama is going to institute the same economic policy as Carter.

Posted by: Jaydee | September 9, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm

Obama ran on a lark. Then the easily swayed Democrats who get bowled over by smooth talking snake-oil salesmen (I’ll give you free money from the US Treasury because rich people are evil!) voted in the ObamaMessiah over the HillaryQueen.
———–
FTA:
“I wouldn’t do that,” Obama said. “I mean, I’m not perfect –”
“Yes, you are!” shouted a woman in the crowd.
———–
Obama shows his Habeas Corpus and giddy goofy silly women faint at his feet.

Posted by: Politicus | September 9, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm

Tapper.. Don’t leave us on a misrepresentation — from Obama mouth.
So Palin flipped on the bridge. At least she flipped the right way – she did change her mind and oppose it. She can run the ad.
Obama. He promised to accept public financing. He flipped the wrong way.
Obama. He fist came to public office, by screwing over his mentor, his friend, and by getting the incumbent (along with 3 others) disqualified – by disenfranchising voter’s signatures…Mmm sounds a lot like Florida. Has he flipped the right way? Can he run on that?

Posted by: for parity | September 9, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm

What is with the “Obama be da man” stuff. Racist jerks. And OBAMA is a whiner. Did any of these people ever here of “projection”? It’s when you see your own worst faults in the people you don’t like — whether they’re actually there or not. The Republicans have been projecting outrageously for YEARS. All the way back to Ronnie Reagan who chastised people for their family values. Then they chastise the Dems for being big spenders — Hey, have you seen our deficit lately? And for being liars — Whoa, Mr. Rove, did you have anything to do with releasing the name of the covert CIA operative?
Oh, please, Republican hyper-partisans are acting like High School jocks, supporting their school over all others for no other reason than that it is THEIRS. Well, folks, this GOVERNMENT is ours, and we should all be thinking about IT instead of the party we’ve been part of for who knows how many years. I’m not even a Democrat, but I’m voting for Obama because the country needs him to stop McCain and Blunder Woman from taking our country the rest of the way down this road to Hell that we’re on right now.

Posted by: Pat OBrien | September 9, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm

I am glad that Obama is finally taking Palin on about her flippant “read them their rights” comment. As someone who has been fighting in a foreign country to instill freedom, I can tell you that the right of Habeas Corpus is precious and not to be mocked!

Posted by: Kono | September 9, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm

To the Liberals here complaining about the Republicans bashing Obama, Biden, Pelosi, Reid, etc.. As a Republican, may I apologize? You see, it is just that we have a bigger pool of people to choose from than you Liberals do!
I understand how it must be frustrating for you to have worn out, the “Its Bush’s fault” line.

Posted by: Rank | September 9, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

While Palin did eventually change her mind about building the bridge, she kept the $230 million that Congress had allocated for the bridge.
Without Palin and her hired lobbyists pulling for earmarks and pork, funding for the bridge would have never happened. She got money to build a bridge, kept the money, and didn’t build a bridge.
Sounds like old-school politics to me.

Posted by: AccuracyMatters | September 9, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm

I’m so glad Obama is taking such an interest in our constitution. I’d love if he also took note of people’s right to their property instead of taking their property away from them with more taxes.
He’s right, we should follow the constitution and the bill of rights!!!

Posted by: Billy D | September 9, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm

Read NEWSWEEK! They have printed all the REAL Truths about Sarah Palin to dispute all the rumors and lies on the Huffington post and Liberal Mainstream Media reports! Congrats! to “NEWSWEEK”. Go out and buy it and read it!

Posted by: arlan in IL | September 9, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

This country does not deserve a president like Senator Obama…so as much as I know he would be the right man at the right time…

Posted by: Kathrynne | September 9, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

Hllary, JayDee, et al… Ummm, I hate to be the on to break this to you…but the last active duty, military President was actually George H.W. Bush. He was a Naval Aviator during WWII.
And Snert Lee…Ouch! Nice comeback. Sarcasm much?!?!? Didn’t think so! Leave it to the professionals!

Posted by: JR Ewing | September 9, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm

jimmy carter the last great american president? Muuuuaahhhhhaa.. I was in the military during this buffoons term.
Obviously you were not born yet. I voted for the worst president because I thought a military man would look out for us. Yet soon after his election, 7 out of 10 medical personnel where I was stationed received early outs decimating
proper care for those in need.

Posted by: XRAYeyes | September 9, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm

Tom G:
‘fraid I can’t agree with you. I make what you make, my husband works as well, we both have advanced education, and we can barely make our ends meet. I certainly don’t expect government to bail me out of every problem. (I put myself through college, for god’s sake. I didn’t even expect my parents to bail me out.) But I do expect that by working 60 hours a week, I should not be drowning in health care costs (AFTER insurance premiums are paid), food costs, gas prices, property taxes, etc., etc.
If two people (my husband and myself) in a middle class family like ours cannot make enough money to manage, at the end of each month, to save for retirement, there’s a problem. All we want is some relief: decent health care; affordable child care; sustainable energy (and the jobs that go with that); reasonable tax burdens. Not too much to ask.

Posted by: Kim | September 9, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm

I am going to vote for McCain. This country does not deserve Obama. My reasoning is there has to be complete and total reboot of the country and a total shock for reform.
McCain and the republicans are capable of doing that, Bush has taken us 90% towards that goal.

Posted by: Kathy | September 9, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm

“That’s what we’re protecting. Don’t mock the Constitution! Don’t make fun of it! Don’t suggest that it’s un-American to abide by what the founding fathers set up! It’s worked pretty well for over 200 years!
???
And your position on the 2nd Amendment Mr Friend of Bomb Throwers????
Oh yeah… you amend your amends of Amendments.

Posted by: Chris | September 9, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm

What will the unions do if universal health care becomes reality?
Demand MORE!

Posted by: Militant Bunny | September 9, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm

I haven’t been a big Obama supporter, but I’ll take him over Mcsame.
It’s sounds like he’s not using a script and actually getting pissed. He’s got my attention now.

Posted by: infragreen | September 9, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm

John McCain: Lincoln Savings & Loan Scandal back in the 80′s cost the Taxpayers Billions & the Bank that went belly up last Friday was run by John McCain’s son who resigned before Federal Regulators seized it. Way to go McStains. Governor Nobody Beauty Queen who seems to think that once she’s elected it’s Her Way or the Highway. I LOVE Republicans – Do As I Say Not As I Do! I don’t care if John McCain was tortured, I don’t care if Miss Congeniality is th “Most Popular Governor in the U.S.” (Let’s see that means that she has an 80% approval rating with 200,000 people – WOW!)

Posted by: KEN | September 9, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm

If Obama doesn’t care about his half brother living in a shack on less than 12 dollars a year do you think he really cares about you? Of course not he’s just telling silly people what they want to hear since they don’t have enough sense to understand it’s all lies.
Posted by: goodbyeUSA | Sep 9, 2008 3:05:41 PM
So Obama should be responsible for all half siblings he doesn’t know.

Posted by: oo | September 9, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm

IN the 3 years 9 months Obama has been a US Senator, he sponsored 427 bills and authored 152 of them. Prior to that, he was in the Illinois State Legislature where he sponsored 820 bills to become law.
Senator Obama’s record: Of the 15 bills he sponsored or co-sponsored in 2005-7 that became law,
*2 addressed foreign policy (promote relief, security, and democracy in the Congo; and develop democratic institutions in areas under Palestinian control)
*3 addressed public health (improve mine safety; increased breast cancer research funding; reduce preterm delivery and complications, reduce infant mortality)
*2 addressed openness and accountability in government (strengthening the Freedom Of Information Act; full disclosure of all entities receiving federal funds)
*2 addressed national security (extend terrorist risk insurance; amend the Patriot Act)
*1 addressed the needs of the Armed Forces (wave passport fees to visit graves, attend memorials/funerals of veterans abroad)
And of the hundreds of bills Senator Obama introduced during the 109th and 110th Congress:
*25 addressed energy efficiency and climate change
*21 addressed health care
*20 addressed public health
*14 addressed consumer protection/labor
*13 addressed the needs of veterans and of active duty personnel and their families
*12 addressed congressional ethics and accountability
*10 addressed foreign policy
*9 addressed voting/election rights
*7 addressed education
*6 addressed relief for victims of Hurricane Katrina
*5 addressed the environment
*4 addressed discrimination
*4 addressed homeland security

Posted by: voter in pa | September 9, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm

“I mean these IDIOT Repuglicans were in charge when we suffered the worst terrorist attack in US history!”
Hey Tiger2471,
Bill Clinton left this country open to attack. The Sept. 11, 2001 attack happened only months into Bush’s presidency. Bill gave weapons to the terrorists. He is the one who gave aide to Bin Laden. Don’t blame Bush for 9/11, blame the Democrats. They are the ones who gave money and guns to Bin Laden. Bill Clinton is the one who, without any discussions with the UN, bombed Kosovo and entered into a war with Bosnia. Clinton never consulted with the UN, nor was he criticized for not doing so. George W Bush may not go down in history for being the best president we’ve ever had, but he will go down in history for having the courage to bring democracy to an Arab nation and change the face of the middle east. He has isolated Iran and North Korea. He has turned the world’s attention to the serious threats we face, and we are safer for it. As for 9/11, you can’t blame a president who had only been in office for a few months, when all the warning signs were there during Clinton’s presidency. He was just too busy lying about and covering up his scandal with Lewinsky to notice. His attention was diverted from looking out for the people of his country because he was too busy worrying about himself. COUNTRY FIRST!

Posted by: JMS2008 | September 9, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm

Here’s a question…Why is the economy, good or bad, laid on the President?
Last time I checked, the Constitution gives congress (the opposite of progress) the “power” over the “money”.
Also, from a historical perspective, the Democrats have controlled congress 30 of the last 40 yrs.
And as far as BHO’s “More of the same” stuff, hmmm, Biden has been in the Senate for 36 yrs…why hasn’t he tried to change it?

Posted by: JR Ewing | September 9, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm

Ok let me get this straight first Palin supported “The bridge to nowhere”during her gubernatorial race in 2006. A paper trail supports this.
Then she backed away from it but kept the money.
Now Senator Ted Stevens has thrown in his two cents because he wants to beat Mark Begich. Ted said he never thought? There is no paper trail to Ted’s Thought. There is a paper trail to Palin’s actions.
I rest my case.

Posted by: Paul | September 9, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm

voter in PA “You have the audacity to say that he NEEDS to take of his HALF brother halfway around the world?”
you seem to have a lower opinion of Obama than I do, what do you think Obama is going to take away some of his half brother’s almost 12 dollars a year he lives off of?

Posted by: goodbyeUSA | September 9, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm

Kim, you could not be more wrong when you say “always during wars that are finite”. By definition ALL wars are infinite until they end. There was no “exit strategy” (except victory) in the Civil War, WWI, WWII, Korea (which we are still technically in), and the only finiteness to Vietnam was quitting. Only when the instigator surrendered, did we exit (except for the Civil War, WWII, and Korea – we stayed around for many, many years longer). The finiteness here is the same, when the terrorist surrender, we can go home.

Posted by: zypldot | September 9, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

(1) President Lincoln suspended habeas corpus during the Civil War. Mr. Obama probably missed this class in consitutional history… His handlers are not well informed either :-)

Posted by: cody | September 9, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm

Our entire electoral process is designed to split America. All I have read about is extreme views from the left and right, it’s sickening. Wish a state would secede, I would join their military in a heartbeat.

Posted by: Tj | September 9, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

Kim – Try taking a good good look at yourself and stop copping out, it isn’t other American’s fault you and your husband haven’t been very successful. A lot of times people like you mismanage their finances, spend more than they can afford ,make poor career decisions, have inferiority complexes that keeps them from advancing & competing, have addictions & habits and weak morals etc.or are just kind of dumb from believing so many lies that they can’t make progress. The Democrats just in energy alone (not to mention many other things) have put huge financial pressures on the average American, they have block drilling & nuclear for decades . Oil is a big reason were fighting in the middle east too so that money could have been saved if we weren’t so depended on the Islamic nations there would be less temptation to get involved in wars over there.

Posted by: goodbyeUSA | September 9, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

‘Democrats have airdropped a mini-army of 30 lawyers, investigators and opposition researchers into Anchorage’…
Obama is scared…
The more they find on Palin, the more America loves her. They are making Palin one thing that no election has ever had… A real person that everyone can identify with.

Posted by: Wiggles | September 9, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm

On George W. Bush’s plans for a limited military redeployment from Iraq to Afghanistan.
Bush is making his move now in a attempt to help McCain. You don’t make a move like this 56 days before the voters go to the voting booth and all of a sudden have a answer that looks like a band aid or was it a Schmidt poll that said this will help McCain by a few percentage points? Already many of our sons and daughters are servicing a second or third tour.
Also over 4,000 of our sons and daughter lost their lives. Also over 30,000 of our sons and daughters have come home wounded. Did you see them marching or in wheel chairs this fourth of July? I did. No one knows how many Iraq civilians have been killed but the number do range from 200,000 to even a million. I don’t think God whats us killing other human beings over WMD that did not exist. Over 2 million Iraq civilians have left their country fearful for their lives and their families. So don’t tell me that victory is now here and try to keep asking Obama about a surge. The voters surge will happen on November 4th.
Bush left a mess. A mess that will take years to clean up. Republicans should be held accountable until its clean up. They should be accountable for 2010 and 2012 elections. It might take that long if not longer?
This will still be a divided government. Look how the Republican’s have block
bills from passing since 2006.
Obama/Biden will work with all parties and end this mess, this gridlock. McCain is just going to keep up the negative ads which are dividing this country with wedge issues.

Posted by: Bobby K | September 9, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm

Name any president… There is a mess left by all.

Posted by: wiggles | September 9, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm

But Obama voted for the bridge to nowhere. As did his Veep.
But that’s inconvenient to mention. It might be objective reporting.

Posted by: CPL | September 9, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm

Sounds like he’s out of ammo. The meltdown has begun!!!

Posted by: SerenasDad | September 9, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm

John McCain wants to cut taxes for EVERYONE and reduce spending.
Barack Obama wants to increase taxes on anyone making $30,000 a year single or $60,000 jointly to give money back to people who pay no taxes and increase government spending by $1MM.
There has not been a single economist to endorse Barack Obama’s plan, who hasn’t been paid by his campaign. While every reputable independent economist has endorsed McCain’s and gone on the record as saying Obama’s plan will put the USA into another Great Depression.
Why can’t everyone be more like John McCain and Sarah Palin and reach across party lines and buck the old system of politics? Palin is good for women and McCain is good for all Americans.
Stop the hate Dems. Stop the lying. Let’s focus on the facts and issues and all will come to see how McCain is the only choice in 2008. Bill and Hillary Clinton agree with me and apparently 54% of voters.

Posted by: Janice | September 9, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm

“voter in pa”, your facts are WAY OFF! I realize you are blinded by obamaitis, but simply chedk the Thomas Register at the Library of Congress. Obama has sponsored ONLY 152 bills.
They include: “Juneteenth Independence Day”, “congradulating the White Sox”, another Juneteenth, designating “National Summer Learning day”, and other junk.
He failed to vote on the “Defense Authorizations Bill”, “Department of Homealnd Security Appropriations”, “National Defense Authorization Acto for 2008″, and many more.
Obama is bad for America.

Posted by: zypldot | September 9, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm

About the Terrorist thing and Obama’s remarks…I think he…because of his associations…should stay the heck away from that topic.
About how great Obama has been in the Senate concerning bills..STOP IT..RIGHT NOW..THIS IS LYING. All one has to do is look at Barack Baby’s Bill…”Global Poverty Bill, wherein he gives (in addition to his big tax cut for everyone) .7% of our GDP to Third World Countries. Now…I ask you this: If you have more going out in tax cuts for his supposed 95% of the people, you are giving away .7% of the GDP, you won’t get behind drilling, you want to take away capital gains and dividend returns (which hurt the largest number of taxpayers, i.e., retirees who depend on it to LIVE..what does one end up with? ANSWER….zero “0″. BANKRUPT…OUT OF BUSINESS..BEEN HAD. Tax small businesses with increased SS tax and put them into millionaire tax bracket…and…AGAIN..YOU BANKRUPT THE COUNTRY. So..your financial wizard, Obama…is going to take your country away from you…and you…are going to vote for this? Please help me to understand this. Surely…most of you balance a checkbook?

Posted by: Carolyn | September 9, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm

goodbyeUSA:
You are extremely condescending and silly. I am very successful–simply not well-paid. There are many occupations that don’t pay above $50,000 a year; this is, in fact, the median income for most American households. I put myself through higher education, and so do not, as I said, expect any hand-outs. My point is that most households are working two jobs, and most are currently struggling. (I don’t, in fact, know anyone who is not–and all the people that I know are middle class.) The problem is the rising cost of property taxes, health care, utilities and food that is placing considerable pressure upon ordinary families. Surely we are not all spendthrifts and drug addicts.
I am for nuclear technology (and unlike our current president, can pronounce it), and will tolerate some off-shore drilling. But this cannot resolve the situation long-term. There are real policy issues to confront, and assumptions about the incompetence of others is a comfortable fiction; it is not, however, the reality of most middle class people who are experiencing real discomfort.

Posted by: Kim | September 9, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm

I see the change that Obama and his left wing loonies have in store for us.
He is changing the Democrat party to the Socialist party. CHANGE THAT WORKS??? Change that works for those votes they buy through the distribution of money earned through the sweat of hard working Americans. Illegals take delight help and change is on the way.

Posted by: sanirab | September 9, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm

Ahh poor Barry, he’s falling apart and its fun to watch.

Posted by: joey | September 9, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm

McCain/Palin ’08 – 10% Maverick 90% Bush
100% Lies

Posted by: Recovering Republican | September 9, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm

I would vote for Obama if I wasn’t a small towner clinging to my guns and religion, and this xenophobia is a pain. I really want to vote for him cause I love a presidential candidate that can actually shift on major positions within 24 hrs. and who thinks airing up your tires will have a dramatic impact on oil usage, which would possibly be true if the majority of people were driving around with under inflated tires, but since every time you get your oil changed they air up the tires, I find it doubtful.

Posted by: jeff | September 9, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm

Looks like a lot of people here are really not hearing the message that Sen.Obama is trying to deliver. I think I know why,some of you will not like this answer but really think about it. I will be the first to admit it, that all my life I was raised to believe that my race(Caucasian)was second to none. I saw it in the work place, home and at church. Now to believe that a African/American male has a real chance to be President of the United States of America is a little bit much for some people to stomach, this is shown clearly in some of the statements in this blog. A lot of Caucasians in America have a real problem with a Black Man in a position of authority and that’s the real problem….just be honest with yourself.

Posted by: Todd Balwin | September 9, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm

Hope and change have arrive and they are McCain and Pailin. Wow what ticket 2 mavericks against two idiots who have done nothing in thier unfortunate careers. I have always wanted to be a community organizer and they both plaigarize. Haha what a joke they steal other peoples speeches but think they offer change. They can’t even change someone else’s speech to give thier own. And Biden’s plaigarized speech was taken from a british socialist, kinda says something doesn’t it?

Posted by: Ben | September 9, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm

Crybama

Posted by: Dan | September 9, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm

Oh come on!! Don’t give me this white supremecist crap!! What percentage of blacks will vote for Obama. I’m sure some whites won’t vote for Obama cuz he’s black. Also, some men won’t vote for McCain because Pailin is a woman. I’m not voting for Obama because he’s a socialist it has nothing to do with the color of his skin!! So now the libs are already setting it up if he loses
America is racist, what a joke!! Why don’t the democrats come up with a candidate that isn’t an empty suit and you wouldn’t have to worry about losing cuz you have the media doing everything they can to get him elected.

Posted by: Bill | September 9, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm

I am sick and tired of hearing about Obama having been a constitutional professor. He NEVER held a professor appointment, he was merely a lecturer for about a year.
Moreover, he and Biden both voted the money for the bridge to nowhere and never withdrew their vote.
It saddens me that this country has so many gullible dupes that would vote for Obama/Biden.

Posted by: swissik | September 9, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm

A fired-up Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., took on his opponents — “these people,” he said incredulously, in a familiar refrain — for shamelessness and dishonesty.
I strongly believe Obama does know shameless and dishonesty, remember his pastor, his dealing with his Chicago pals on his home, his being on the board that now he can’t remember. I ask all to please see his voting record during his time in Washington. He has spent more time writing books than voting. “shameless”

Posted by: Richard of JAX | September 9, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm

The Obama comments are not the rhetoric of a messiah. If he’s becoming this unraveled over a political campaign, Heaven help if he’s elected and we have have a problem with Iran, etc.

Posted by: TC in San Antonio | September 9, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm

I am just one of those non-elitist, unedumakated, bible thumpin, gun totin, mean spirited racist Republicans. I did not know that until I spoke with an Obama supporter the other day. All I asked was what makes Obama qualified to be President? I was told what an uninformed racist idiot I was. However, I did not get an answer to my question, so my vote still goes to McCain Palin.

Posted by: Rank | September 9, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm

Is this election gonna turn into Reagan vs. Mondale only with the woman veep being on the winning side this time?

Posted by: Curt | September 9, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm

It looks like mr magic has lost his mojo.
Just sputtering around slinging his usual lies, just like most dems. Go Mcain/Palin 08

Posted by: Stephana | September 9, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm

Thoughts on Charlie Gibson interview with Palin.
The scenery will distract from Charlie’s questions on the issues. An environment controlled by the top republican experts Schimt and Davis. Voters remember impressions or personalities more then issues in a TV special. In a way Davis was telegraphing his next move the interview where he thinks this election will be decide on personalities and appearances not on the issues. America has the attention span of a 30 second commercial. This is when it comes to products. The Packaging of Palin is serious business.
On the mainstream talk shows there is no symbolic scenery with carefully tested poll driven pictures and books around. So there are no distractions. Palin should go on Meet the Press or George’s show environments Schmidt and Davis can’t control. All of the other candidates have been on these shows for years. We feel like we know them. Yes we can believe they are ready to represent this country. They took the questions on our minds and clearly shown the contrast and approaches of both parties. Palin hasn’t done this.
Its Palins turn to do all the shows, not on her or Davis schedule but on the voters schedule which is less the 56 days before every one goes to that booth and votes. We already know the other candidates. We don’t know Palin yet. She can finally answer the question about the bridge to nowhere.

Posted by: Cooday | September 9, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm

Cooday:
It is the 1st of many interviews she will have.
Why are you so skeptical? Does a woman being VP scare you? Joe Biden doesn’t like women unless he is drunk and hitting on them. Palin scares Joe.

Posted by: Henry | September 9, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm

Quote of the day!
“Yes, Barack Obama may be the great African-American hope, Joe Biden the reassuringly experienced eminence grise and John McCain the ultimate patriotic American hero. But as a super-mothering, feminist image-busting, glass-ceiling shattering, hunting-and-fishing so-con heroine, Palin out-symbolizes them all.”
Terry O’Neill, National Post

Posted by: Al-in-Indy | September 9, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm

“Democrats have airdropped a mini-army of 30 lawyers, investigators and opposition researchers into Anchorage, the state capital Juneau and Mrs. Palin’s hometown of Wasilla to dig into her record and background.” Quote from article in WSJ.
Yes, Obama I guess some politicians will do or say anything just to get elected!

Posted by: Rank | September 9, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm

Palin did not cut funding for special needs education in Alaska by 62 percent. She didn’t cut it at all. In fact, she tripled per-pupil funding over just three years.
She did not demand that books be banned from the Wasilla library. Some of the books on a widely circulated list were not even in print at the time. The librarian has said Palin asked a “What if?” question, but the librarian continued in her job through most of Palin’s first term.
She was never a member of the Alaskan Independence Party, a group that wants Alaskans to vote on whether they wish to secede from the United States. She’s been registered as a Republican since May 1982.
Palin never endorsed or supported Pat Buchanan for president. She once wore a Buchanan button as a “courtesy” when he visited Wasilla, but shortly afterward she was appointed to co-chair of the campaign of Steve Forbes in the state.
Palin has not pushed for teaching creationism in Alaska’s schools. She has said that students should be allowed to “debate both sides” of the evolution question, but she also said creationism “doesn’t have to be part of the curriculum.”

Posted by: Gw | September 9, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm

Oh, those of you thinking that the Obama media and campaign will actually care about facts is funny, cuz they won’t. It is also funny how hard the libs have tried to trash Pailin and all they can come up with is a couple of lies and a pregnant 17 year old. I mean they are still saying that Trig is her daughter’s son even though he is like four months old and her daughter is 5 months pregant, last I heard that wasn’t possible unless you are a lib trying to win an election.

Posted by: Pete | September 9, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm

The Democrats showed their true colors with their lies and rumor-mongering about a 5 month old disabled child.
Stay classy you lowlife liberals. I’m joining the Republicans

Posted by: Joe Lieberman | September 9, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm

I love the people bragging that Obama co-sponsored soooo many bill. Which, involves the sponsor asking if he would like to have his name on it and him saying ok. Not exactly and executive decision. Being one of 100 votes on any bill, not exactly executive experiece. Voting present repeatedly, not exactly executive experience. Executive experience is being the person who makes the final decision on EVERY issue. I wish I could just go to work and say “present” and go home then claim experience, but real life doesn’t work like that. How about getting a bill in the mail and instead of paying it just writing “present” on it, wow would life be easier like that. So I guess in a way I may envy Obama that he hasn’t ever done anything in his life with any responsibilities, but may become president. Isn’t it great, but I’m still not voting for the blank slate.

Posted by: Brenda | September 9, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm

it took Republicans to put a woman on the ticket.

Posted by: john | September 9, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm

Kathy said:”All we want is some relief: decent health care; affordable child care; sustainable energy (and the jobs that go with that); reasonable tax burdens. Not too much to ask”
It is when what you really want is for ME to pay higher taxes so you can live beyond your means.
Decent health care: what does that mean? Free?
Affordable child care: Why did you have children if you couldnt afford them? To foist them on society? Not the sign of a good parent, is it?
Sustainable energy: Ok. I guess you agree we should drill more.
Reasonable tax burdens: For thee, but not for me right?

Posted by: AntonioG | September 9, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm

The audacity of Obama is what he book should have been called. I am a minority, black and female and in this case i will vote for female not for the audacity of the man!

Posted by: Andrea | September 9, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm

Everyone keeps asking the question is Sarah Palan ready to be president?
The truth is she will learn a lot from John Mc Cain just like Obama would learn something from Biden.
Obama has been a senator for a few more months than Palin been governor, but Obama has never run anything but for an office, trying to get a job, doesn’t qualify you for the job. But the REAL larger question and the question that no one seems to be addressing, why does anyone think that Obama is more qualified than Palan to be President?
His resume for the last 20 years of his life just doesn’t stack up to Sarah’s
Palan’s got experience, she’s made decisions, she’s managed people and money, she’s put herself out there, Obama, has been an attorney for his whole life, ducking responsibility and decisions.
We don’t need someone who shifts decisions based on wind direction.
We need a leader who can standup for their convictions; we need someone with a backbone, who understands us; our fears, joys and pains.
We need someone who can take a punch and come back; John MCCain has shown that,
But there’s the focus on age…. (A bogus point) 71 isn’t old anymore, and I dont want to think that when I hit 71, my life is over, Im not productive, hell Jack Lanne is over 90 and in better physical shape than most 30 years olds, we have to get rid of the concept of too old, it should be about the person, not the number, it should be about the person not the SEX or Color.
Also think about it, McCain is tough physically, mentally and spiritually, knock him down he bounces back,
His mother is not only sharp but physically active at 96.
That being said, AGAIN why the belief that Obama is more qualified than Palan?
Whatever happens in this election I expect to see Palan running for President one day, and she’ll have my vote. Our country is indeed ready for a woman and a Black man for president. But Obama is not that Black Man, Obama is a socialist, he was raided as a socialist, look at the influences in his life. Obama believes in a different form of government, and we should be afraid of that.
The cultural wars are getting hotter, America is at a crossroad. Does the US stand on its on feet where each person solves their own problems with some assistance, or do we create a whole new society where Government does everything for us?
Obama has answered that question with a resounding yell of… Big Brother CAN.

Posted by: sickofliberalBS | September 9, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm

To have an 80% approval rating in Alaska Governor Palin has to have a lot on the ball. I have lived in 4 distinctively different areas in the USA in my life,in Alaska at present, and Alaska is by far the most diverse I have seen, and I did live in CA at one time. My guess would be that Alaska is one of the 5 most diverse states in the union. So, Governor Palin has not gained an 80% approval rating from just a bunch of small town rednecks but rather from a wide variety of races and ethnic backgrounds. As to the statement about 80% of 200,00 the number is actually over 600,00 but it doesn’t really matter what the total is – it is what the percentage indicates. 80% of a very diverse population speaks volumes on Governor Palin’s ability to perform for her constituents. I would say that John McCain and Sarah Palin truly do have the socialist democratic party scared and on the run for ways to try and devalue them as viable leaders of the free world. So, whether you are a Republican or a Democrat or Independent you should look at the whole person in evaluating your choice on November 4th. The choices one makes in the little things in life will assuredly be reflected in the choices they make in the big things.

Posted by: Mark Knickerbocker | September 9, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm

takes time to think through a thought. hmmm. Obama does that include putting your hand over your heart when you say the pledge, or wearing the flagpin in the morning. or calling your terrorist friends for advice. or saying Americans are bitter and kling to guns and bibles. I sure would not want to play chess with this guy. It would take day’s for a move.

Posted by: john | September 9, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm

After living in Alaska most of my life 29 years and now living in AZ I will tell all of you Progressive Liberal lower 48ers a little something if you think Sarah Palin is a push over keep your heads in the sand it wont hurt as much if you don’t see it coming. LOL
This is so funny watching Commie’s poop there diapers and talk all high and mighty about giving Terrorist the same rights as an American in court PLEASE LOL then in the same lame breath try and take our 2nd amendment rights away.
Yea I see how you lefties think, your all for the First Amendment if everyone thinks like You and if not we are all racist homophobes that want to steel Grandma’s SSI check then kick her down the stairs. What kind of Drugs did your Liberal Marxist commune tree hugging mommy and daddy take in the 60s???
Progressive Liberals think Terrorist should have Constitutional rights and access to our court system but when it comes down to American’s having the right to keep and bear arms well that’s just an out dated section in the Bill of Rights so the 2nd Amendment should be abolished.
Only backward thinking savage NRA types think it’s an individual right that should be preserved at any cost.
Well let me tell you a little secret comrades Millions of us are the NRA and your Messiah’s Obama and Obiden are about to really get SAVAGED by one NRA member and her name is Sarah-Barracuda Palin.
Can’t wait until the Debate in October LOL

Posted by: AlaskanInAZ | September 9, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm

does anybody notice how this liberal writer roots for the Obama canidate. the way he phrases stuff. Obama fired up. ibidi ibidi ibidi . Thats all folks. The stuterer Obama

Posted by: john | September 9, 2008, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm

Obama sounds like one of those “lounge lizards” from a supper club, creepy! What a bunch of morons swooning at his feet.

Posted by: hbell | September 9, 2008, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm

Lies, Scandals and Republicans – and you people keep falling for it over and over and over. I love watching conservatives get excited about a politician that shortly after getting elected screws them over. Now that is satisfying in so many ways.

Posted by: Craig | September 9, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm

Oh the shamelessness!!
“For the first time in my adult life I’m proud of America” wife
“God D*** America” pastor
Hypocrite who speaks one way to people in the middle America and then talk about them behind their back in San Francisco
Tony Rezko
Bill Ayers.
Mr. Obama, you want to talk about shamelessness? YOU ARE THE EPITOME OF SUCH!

Posted by: Mark | September 9, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm

I’m glad to see a few of these posts mention Obama’s wanting to turn us into a Socialist Society. That, to me, is the scariest thing about him. Why do Dems want the US to be Socialists? What Socialist country any place in the world has had the successes, the freedoms and the opportunities we have enjoyed in the United States? NONE. Is that what we really want? It may sound great but it won’t be. There is nothing in history to prove it works and it won’t work here, especially because we’ve had better.
Get a life, you Dems. If your guy wins, you won’t have much of one.

Posted by: sickofliberalsbs2 | September 9, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm

The woman who said he was perfect? Okay, okay, okay. . . was she drunk? Do you think? Or maybe she was a carefully planted operative? Or a little too crisped mentally? Or his secret lover. Thats it! Run with it, Press run with it! She’s his mistress!
Yeah!!! Blog it! Blog it . . . . oh, no. I forgot. He’s Obama. Press won’t touch that one. He’s immune to nasty blog. Hey guys! Yeah you. Try to photoshop a shot of Palin fondling the moose while she’s banning books in the library! We can go with that one!

Posted by: Drake Eight | September 9, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm

The only change you will get with McSames / PA(l)IN is the name on the door of the oval office.
Conservative christian women: are you dumb or what? You are supposed to preach peace (Christ-like) and yet you want a women who is a bikini wearing, gun-toting, kill em all mentality, woman who doesn’t remind me of how a women should be–package check please! Bet there’s a weiner-heimer hiding there.

Posted by: marlin g | September 9, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm

“Shameless?” Could Mr. Change elaborate on his associates in Syria, the Church of lovey-dovey Respect, maybe even his deconstructed “entertainers” from the Coast rolling in money while preaching responsibility? Better, discuss Michelle’s $350,000 job as an outreach director, maybe even all of his donors’ uneco-friendly jets, yachts, villas, etc. Shameless, indeed. What’s the function of a privileged outreach director anyway? Talk about hypocrisy. The only thing the liberals have mastered.

Posted by: Dan | September 9, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm

Let us look carefully at the steps to communisum. 1)freedom. willfully give it away. How? By knowingly and willingly standing for the WRONG things.
2) We arrive at the door od Socialism. Paint it with any brush, when the white wash has run off due to the tears of pain, then you will see it was just rob the rich and give to the poor. I want some of those Ivy Leaguer’s to start sharing some of their grades with me.
3) When we are at the mercy of the greatest Idiots and they instill Communisum!
Just three step backwars is all it takes

Posted by: Wellington | September 9, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm

Answers to the following:
Oh the shamelessness!!–Yes it is shameless
“For the first time in my adult life I’m proud of America” wife–Palin’s husband was a member of an organization that wants to break away from the U. S. for years. Let’s compare that to one remark that meant she wasn’t proud of the POLITICS of America.
“God D*** America” pastor–Again, sounds like Palin’s husband’s group.
Hypocrite who speaks one way to people in the middle America and then talk about them behind their back in San Francisco–Says she got rid of the Bridge to Nowhere but only after it became unpopular. Before that she was for it and even had a “Bridge to Nowhere” shirt.
Tony Rezko–No illegal acts done here. It has been investigated to the bones.
Bill Ayers.–Obama was eight years old. Ayers is now a professor.

Posted by: Becky | September 9, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm

Excerpt fom Susan Eisenhower speech at the Democrat National Convention.
I believe that Barack Obama has the energy and the temperament to lead this country. He knows that we can either advance on the distant hills of hope or retreat to the garrisons of fear. As our standard bearer, he can mobilize a demoralized America and inspire all of us to show up for duty. Discipline will be required, as will compromise, flexibility and quiet strength.
Barack Obama has already articulated a powerful vision for our nation’s future and our standing in the world.
The task before our next president will be overwhelming. But no undertaking will be more critical than bringing about a sense of national unity and purpose, built on mutual respect and bi-partisanship.
Unless we squarely face our challenges, as Americans together, we risk losing the priceless heritage bestowed on us by the sweat and the sacrifice of our forbearers. If we do not pull together, we could lose the America that has been an inspiration to the world.
On December 1, 1862, in his annual message to Congress, Abraham Lincoln immortalized this thought when he said: “We shall nobly save, or meanly lose, the last best hope of earth.”
Let us respond this November to President Lincoln’s challenge.
Let us restore the hope and bring the change that our nation so desperately needs.
When Susan Eisenhower ended her great speech with “Yes we can!” over 84,000 supporters cheered, over 38,000,000 viewers saw her on TV and jumped out of their living room couches and cheered!
Obama/Biden ’08

Posted by: Republicans for Obama | September 9, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm

Bruce Springsteen endorses Barack Obama
“He has the depth, the reflectiveness, and the resilience to be our next president
He speaks to the America I’ve envisioned in my music for the past 35 years, a generous nation with a citizenry willing to tackle nuanced and complex problems, a country that’s interested in its collective destiny and in the potential of its gathered spirit. A place where ‘…nobody crowds you, and nobody goes it alone.
Critics have tried to diminish Senator Obama through the exaggeration of certain of his comments and relationships
While these matters are worthy of some discussion, they have been ripped out of the context and fabric of the man’s life and vision … often in order to distract us from discussing the real issues: war and peace, the fight for economic and racial justice, reaffirming our Constitution, and the protection and enhancement of our environment.” Bruce Springsteen
Vote for the real change leaders!
Change we can believe in
Obama/Biden

Posted by: Independent Voter | September 9, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm

AntonioG:
I actually probably have a higher tax burden than you. (From the sound of it, you are concerned about raised taxes, which indicates an income of $250,000 or more.) My brother runs a Fortune 500 company and pays a lower percentage in taxes than I do. So, I guess fairness only concerns you when you are clutching your wallet. I also have a credit rating of 780, which would indicate that I do NOT, in fact, live beyond my means. I just teach your children. I’m in the same situation as police, firefighters, many civil servants, and other people who chose to serve their communities rather than their bank accounts.
And a final thought: we were all doing fine eight years ago.

Posted by: Kim | September 9, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm

Is anyone posting on this site over 16 years old? You sorry whiners are just writing ignorant comments on the toilet stall walls. Contrary to what your mommy told you, noone cares what you feel. If you had something worthwhile to say, people might listen. But all the name calling, made up foolishness about John McCain and Sarah Palin fails to reveal any thinking is going on among the Obama supporters. McCain and Palin support life, want to win the war in Iraq, oppose homosexual marriage, favor drilling now to move toward energy independence, just to name a few positions. If you defenders of Obama could articulate the righteousness of killing babies in the womb or on the delivery room table, the benefits of abdicating American responsibility and self-interest in the word, explain the cultural benefits of destroying the American family, and explain how windmills and batteries that don’t yet exist provide power for vehicles and lead to energy independence, perhaps some voters might be moved to your cause. Simply calling names, making up motivations, and sliming Governor Palin, sure doesn’t win people to your side. What knuckleheads.

Posted by: Marcy | September 9, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm

Wow, Tell me something Conservatives…
How is Obama any more “Socialist” than FDR? FDR gave you all that your parents had. Neocons take it all back. All that New Deal crap gave us a strong economy, strong middle class, good schools, ROADS! Cripes a little and I REPEAT, little socialism goes a long way. Everything in balance. Capitalism in it’s pure form will gobble all you little selfish scumbags up in a decades time. Obama is no Marx. Obama has no desire to strip this country of what made it the wealthiest nation in the world. He only wants to improve our home. McCain will do nothing for you. His masters won’t let him, and not enough of you spineless republican jellyfish have the balls enough to gather round and make it happen. At least Obama, who is whether you like it or not, backed by the majority of the whole world. That’s clout!
Sweet Jesus pull you heads out of your fear filled asses you degenerates.
You’ll all be bitching about no middle class soon if you continue to let your fears drive your voting. McCain is a soft serve puss. I actually liked him when he ran against W. Then he folded like the good little panty waist he is, taking it right in the can from the imbecile. He’s no Maverick. He’s a flat, lying piece of passionless horse crap.
Try voting FOR someone instead of voting AGAINST someone else. There’s only one choice for 08. Only one man will allow US the people to drive the policy making of our future.
OBAMA!!!

Posted by: the reverend | September 9, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm

Here’s what you folks don’t get about McCain’s tax plan. He will cut taxes for the wealthiest Americans and leave out 100,000,000 middle class folks. The well off folks won’t be paying higher capital gains taxes becuase they will buy Muni bonds which are tax exempt and provide income. So they will make even more more. So There is no doubt that McCain is NOT cutting taxes, he is just leaving the BUSH tax cuts in place!

Posted by: julescator | September 9, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm

Interesting how Dems keep throwing President’s approval rating of 30% in, but there is total silence on the Dems’ Congress’ 10% approval rating.
Selective hearing, vision, etc.
Worry about what super Pelosi and Reid had accomplished in 1 year (absolutely nothing).
Obama has NO chance now, thank God.

Posted by: AVA | September 9, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm

OK, one last point (I’m still at work and looking for diversion): my suggestion that I wanted a “reasonable tax burden” has attracted slurs that I’m either a wastrel or wanting society to assume expenses for my lavish lifestyle. So let me say clearly what I do want: for the wealthy (and the rich) to pay THE SAME proportion of their income in tax that I do; no more, no less. For the same health care system that Congress enjoys–no more, no less. For gas prices (and food prices, a consequence of gas) to not be fixed above $4 a gallon when companies like BP and Exxon are reporting record profits for their stockholders. I don’t want a free ride. I want an equitable distribution: no more, no less.

Posted by: Kim | September 9, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm

“So let me say clearly what I do want: for the wealthy (and the rich) to pay THE SAME proportion of their income in tax that I do”
This is a great principle. The same rate for everyone. IT’S CALL THE FLAT TAX.
Republicans have favored a flatter, fairer tax rate system but the Democrats want more income redistribution and keep wanting to jack up tax rates. Its bad for investors, business, and the economy.

Posted by: Travis Monitor | September 9, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm

“Excerpt fom Susan Eisenhower speech at the Democrat National Convention.
I believe that Barack Obama has the energy and the temperament to lead this country.”
Well, that woman sure is an idiot.
Obama lacks the experience, lacks the judgment, lacks the accomplishments, lacks the decisiveness, and has been wrong on Iraq and most issues, and shows through his many gaffes and bad judgment in people (like Rev Wright and Bill Ayers) that he’s not qualified to lead. Oh, but he has the ‘energy’ … Are we electing a jock for president?

Posted by: Travis Monitor | September 9, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm

“How is Obama any more “Socialist” than FDR? FDR gave you all that your parents had.”
Hey, spoken like a socialist! What is this guff about FDR giving our parents stuff? My parents like most parents, got what they got through their own hard work. FDR gave them and us nothing. It came, all of it, 100% of it, from the taxpayers and the people. All FDR did was lengthen the Great Depression (see “FDR’s Folly”) through his bad policies that destroyed farm products, etc. and pack the Supreme Court so the courts would rule based on politics instead of the Constitution. (The court in 1934 and 1935 declared his socialistic New Deal programs like the NRA Unconstitutional, and in 1937 he tried to pack the supreme court to get around it). FDR’s jailing of Japanese citizens makes him the most anti-Constitutional President we had.
If Obama is going to follow those footsteps, lets not follow him there.

Posted by: Travis Monitor | September 9, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm

“I am for nuclear technology (and unlike our current president, can pronounce it), and will tolerate some off-shore drilling. But this cannot resolve the situation long-term.”
Sure it can. Nuclear provides 70% of the electricity in France. If we used it to that extent in the US, and used more natural gas for transportation, *and* utilized the Saudi sized shale oil reserves in Colorado plus offshore drilling, we could cut CO2 in half via nuclear and cut foreign oil imports in half via more domestic supply and alternative fuels.

Posted by: Travis Monitor | September 9, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm

“1. Barack has explained that whats at state here is to important to wait! I except that!”
Suckers for used-car salesmen with bad spelling habits are prime Obama voters.
“2. He hasnt change on guns or abortion… Ill give you fisa he did change on that! ”
Obama is an extremist gun-grabber and a pro-abortion extremist who voted against a bill protecting infants from infanticide.
Face it, Obama is an extremist.

Posted by: Travis Monitor | September 9, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm

Travis:
Surely you are not suggesting that the Bush tax cuts that McCain wants to augment and apply permanently are based upon a flat tax model? ‘Cause I would check that….

Posted by: Kim | September 10, 2008, 9:12 am 9:12 am

Folks, no matter who gets elected the U.S. taxpayer gets it stuck in his ear. If you really want change, vote out all incumbents, term limits on house members to 6 years, Senators to eight years,no retirements (they make $175,000/yr.), no health ins. for life, same Social security as we have, no per-diems, no franking priveleges and a flat tax! Quick, name 5 politician that went bankrupt. Now, how many millionairs in Congress?

Posted by: frank | September 11, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm

Folks, no matter who gets elected the U.S. taxpayer gets it stuck in his ear. If you really want change, vote out all incumbents, term limits on house members to 6 years, Senators to eight years,no retirements (they make $175,000/yr.), no health ins. for life, same Social security as we have, no per-diems, no franking priveleges and a flat tax! Quick, name 5 politician that went bankrupt. Now, how many millionairs in Congress?

Posted by: frank | September 11, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm

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