Obama Supporters: The High Road is the Right Road But….

last line is absolutely right… it goes to show what thugs the republicans really are.
scrutinize the other person beittle mame destroy… dig deeper and get more dirt then you could ever bring up…
but if its the repubs getting the attention its…. off limits, its not a good idea to bring it up…
it shows what values democrats have… we know people are human and F up and we dont want to exploit someone for human faults.
lol its lame, i think we should grow a few pairs, but i must say i do it too.
i think we are hte party of values

Face It: They Didn’t Vet Her
Earlier I noted Andrea Mitchell’s reference to reports that the McCain camp had just sent a team of GOP lawyers up to Alaska to do what I guess you’d call a post-vetting of Sarah Palin. Now George Stephanopoulos appears to have more. George says the McCainers are sending a “rapid response team of about ten operatives that includes lawyers” to do the aforementioned deeper vet. A lot of attention is being given to Gov. Palin’s daughter’s situation. The much bigger deal is the expanding trooper-gate investigation, the fact that Palin lied in her Friday speech about her purported opposition to the Bridge to Nowhere, her apparent former membership in the secessionist Alaska Independence Party, and more. Individually, you can come to your own judgment about how consequential these stories are. What they show pretty clearly now — in addition to the news that the McCain campaign is only now sending in a vetting team — is that John McCain didn’t do any serious vetting of Palin before he invited her to join his ticket and, he hopes, become Vice President of the United States.
Fundamentally, of course, this is about John McCain. And the real issue here is what this slapdash decision says about his judgment.
–Josh Marshall

I just think that the way the Republicians attack every little thing, all is fair and appropriate in return. Seems their abstinence policy works about as good as the rest of their values. Yeh, right….

“Children are like wet cement. Whatever falls on them makes an impression.” Dr. Haim Ginott.
I think Governor Palin should turn down the VP offer and take care of her family.
http://SmarterToddler.net

: Samantha
Why don’t you spread your legs for Levi!
Btch!

spin spin spin good lord. I for one do not believe McCain knew of this ahead of time and went ahead with the Palin pick over Pawlenty. McCain had no choice but to say he knew about this ahead of time other wise saying he did not know would say something about his decision making …
that she was not properly vetted and he selected her anyway … that he made a decision without spending the appropriate amount of due diligence …
anyone who thinks he knew and went ahead with the Palin pick is lying to themselves …
thank goodness for the hurricane so that the full limelight of the media was not on the RNC and allowed folks to circle the wagons and decided how they were as a group going to spin this …
jeesh ….

spin spin spin good lord. I for one do not believe McCain knew of this ahead of time and went ahead with the Palin pick over Pawlenty. McCain had no choice but to say he knew about this ahead of time other wise saying he did not know would say something about his decision making …
that she was not properly vetted and he selected her anyway … that he made a decision without spending the appropriate amount of due diligence …
anyone who thinks he knew and went ahead with the Palin pick is lying to themselves …
thank goodness for the hurricane so that the full limelight of the media was not on the RNC and allowed folks to circle the wagons and decided how they were as a group going to spin this …
jeesh ….

decentAmerican |
Right! Let’s see if Bristol makes it to Harvard!

It’s a bit amusing to hear the democrats all posting that she should stay home barefoot and pregnant. Don’t bother to post an abc “news” acticle as support. Their whole site now reads like an Obama blog. But you gotta hand it to them, they sure put on an increadable 2 day smear campaign on short notice. If you can say somethink interesting, don’t reply.

I feel sorry for Palin’s daughter being thrust into public spotlight like this. It wasn’t her choice, it was her mother’s. Good for Obama for taking the high road. But what hypocrits her fundamentalist supporters are to say stay out of this family’s affairs! Palin is the one who would stop someone else’s daughter from having an abortion, even if it was because of rape. She would stop sex education classes other than abstinence only because it’s what SHE believes. (It didn’t work out too well for her own daughter, did it?) She and her supporters want to shove their religious and political beliefs down everyone else’s throat and condemn those that disagree. I guess they can dish it out but not take it.

The vitriole spewed on all of these blogs is absolutely insane!
Democrat, Republican, or Independant, how can you call yourself an American when you ALL stoop to such low levels debate! Be ashamed! What are we teaching our children about the American way of life and democracy?

The Republican Party is being held hostage by the Religious Right . This puppet has practically ruined Palin’s family. If he knew that Palin’s daughter was pregnant, he should have reconsidered his decision to offer her the opportunity to be his running mate. Palin would have emerged in 4 years and become a power house. As it stands, we now have America questioning her capabilities as a mother. In order for this ticket to win, she has to convince the American people that she is a great mother and not a distraction.

Hang in there Sarah Palin. The media onslaught was absolutely predictable and indicates they truly fear you. Always remember that you share the stage with a candidate who is a famous plaegerist and another who participated in shady real estate deals and was a drug user. In such esteemed company, your record looks stellar.

averagejoe…take a quick survey, and you will see that most of the vitriol is from Obama supporters, who will seize any opportunity to attack like a herd of hyenas. A perfect example of this is the indespicable and low down rumor about Trig…..they are not satisfied attacking Palin, so they go after an innocent baby?
Atrocious, you all ought to be ashamed of yourselves. Is this the “change” that Obama has instilled in you? Were you all good people once, and now your love of Obama has brought out your innermost evil? What give you the right to start false and horrific rumors about children?
You know that saying about not throwing stones? the hypocrisy of the Dems talking about family values:
A previous sitting president who committed adultery in the whitehouse.
A Dem candidate who had an affair and a child out of wedlock, while his wife has cancer.
And…..
The Dem Prez nominee with a history of drug use.
Family values? You have some nerve…..

Palin has been governor of Alaska and is well qualified for managing a budget. Her results for the time she has been in public office are excellent. She has shown her ability to work within the party to get things done that benefit the people. The DNC candidates have no experience in managing a budget. The DNC presidential candidate is unqualified with little experience, and fewer results to show for his time in office than Palin. The best option is to choose a candidate who can get the job done, which is McCain/Palin 2008.

“Democrat, Republican, or Independant, how can you call yourself an American when you ALL stoop to such low levels debate! Be ashamed! What are we teaching our children about the American way of life and democracy?”
Just expressing our opinions, averagejoe. If you think this is vitriolic, you really don’t get around much. I worry about the damage done to this country by Bush and his followers who tried to kill free speech and public dissent for the last 8 years. Remember the Dixie Chicks? They received death threats for criticizing Bush and the war in Iraq. They were practically run out of the country!! Worry about that, not this comment board.

dear Ron — if you are accusing Palin of being irresponsible because Bristol is pregnant, then you are also calling Obama’s grandmother irresponsible as her daughter got pregnant with Barack out of wedlock too. It is rather unfortunate that Obama is still getting advice from this “irresponsible” grandmother, isn’t it? shows a profound lack of judgement, according to you.

Its a non issue and has nothing to do with the vice presidency. Obama was also referring to the vicious smear campaign to try to libel a 17 year old girl and an infant with Down’s syndrown perpetuated by major main stream bloggers that support him. their actions were reprehensible. He said if anyone in his campaign was connected to it they would be fired. I hope he means that.

Go back to Alaska ansd stay there.you are a lie ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

“She also manages the National Guard in Alaska, which is the first ballistic system on guard for the US for any missile attack on the US, and therefore is active 24 hours, the only one of it’s kind in the US. For that, she gets special security briefing.”
Posted by: decentAmerican | Sep 1, 2008 9:35:55 PM
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THIS IS A TOTAL LIE! Just like the rest of your points in your “posts!”
The missile defense system in Alaska has NOTHING TO DO with the National guard you liar!
That sysytem is ran by the US Air Force and is controlled entirely by the Federal Government and the Pentagon – I know this for a fact!!!
What do you think they are going to let that backwoods beauty queen Palin be responsible for controlling our national defense!!!
Are all of you Republicans just liars or what???
Palin isn’t qualified to do anything with a gun besides shoot deer, fox, bears and wolves from an AIRPLANE!!!
But that is another matter….

To Vickie, Obama never visited europe before last month.
Palin visited Europe before Obama.
Palin visited our troops in Germany unlike Obama.
I hate this election with every fiber in my body. The coverage sucks.
Obama is the guy who praised Hamas in 2004 but said he couldn’t say it publicly.
McCain has visited Europe hundreds of times. McCain has attended a nato security conference meeting every year.
Obama has never been to south america.

decentAmerican who only made it to Junior High. The irresponsibility on McCain’s behalf is that she was not properly vetted and he should have known this was going to distract the campaign, and on Palin’s part for trying to cover it up, not from us but the people of Alaska whom she represents. I know that you are trying to bring Obama’s past into this, but his mother wasn’t running for Vice President of the United States….. big difference.

Jason…you are wrong. Obama has been to Europe several times in his life. He also was in Iraq before. He’s also been to Africa several times and actually lived in Indonesia. Stop the lies please.

Is PUMA anything like the COUGARS ?

I fully agree that a candidate’s private family life should stay private, especially the children’s. As a parent and a grandparent of a loving Downs child my heart goes out to the Palin family. Sarah Palin’s politics on social issues, however, are open to discussion and this has made her vulnerable. Ms. Palin would if she could use her office to define each American family’s options about birth control education, pregnancy, choice, and would insert religious instruction into public schools. Yes, religious instruction. Creationism is a conservative religious belief based on a literal interpretation of the Bible. It has no basis in science, yet Ms. Palin wants her church’s dogma taught in every child’s science class. The Palin family’s decisions about deeply personal choices should private, theirs alone, not that of the Supreme Court, the Religious Right or the party in power. And so should yours.

puma are sneakers of the 1980′s

Obama is free to take the high road – McStupid is scuttling his own ship.
Never interfere with an enemy when he is destroying himself.

*A public school teacher was arrested today at **John F. Kennedy
International Airport as he attempted to board a flight while in
possession of a ruler, a protractor, a set square, a slide rule, and a calculator.
At a morning press conference, the Attorney General said he believes the
man is a member of the notorious Al-gebra movement.
He did not identify the man,
who has been charged by the FBI
with carrying weapons of math instruction.
“Al-gebra is a problem for us,” the Attorney General said.
“They desire solutions by means and extremes,
and sometimes go off on
tangents in a search of absolute value.
They use secret code names like ‘x’ and ‘y’ and refer to themselves as ‘unknowns,’
but we have determined they belong to a common denominator
of the axis of medieval with coordinates in every country.
As the Greek philanderer Isosceles used to say,
‘There are 3 sides to every triangle.’”
When asked to comment on the arrest, Senator Obama said,
“If God had wanted us to have better Weapons of Math Instruction,
he would have given us more fingers and toes.”

Uh, have any of you heard of Larry Sinclair and looked into all of the parishoners of Trinity church of christ who have unfortunately died since Obama announced? Hilliary’s not the only one with a body count! Not that McCain’s hands are clean with all of the men he and Kerry knowingly left behind to slave labor in Vietnam… (even STILL to this day American Free Press) These men are beyond despicable! Happy voting!

Obama has never been vetted.
This is a guy who lied about Rezko.
Obama bought land from Rezko when he was under federal investigation for influence peddling by patrick fitzgerald.
Obama had rezko build a fence and buy 1/6th of his lot which made the rest of the lot far less in value.
Obama then lied to the Washington Post saying he didn’t know about the investigation and no one could have known Rezko had any problems. Well it turned out later he did know Rezko was under federal investigation for influence peddling and called him. Rezko had been in the chicago papers for three years.
Obama hasn’t been vetted.
This is a guy who wrote a book about Wright.
Copies speeches from Duval Patrick.
Calls Father Pfleger a moral compass.
Hangs out with islamic supporters like Khalidi.
Obama tells a palestinian activist hamas supporter in 2004 to keep up the good work but he couldn’t talk about it because of the election.
Obama raised money for militant palestinian groups in the west bank.
Obama called ICE agents terrorists for arresting illegals.
Obama wants to let off the thugs of Jenna6 who beat that kid senseless.

George has again shown his “True
Colors”………….So you’re wondering
what else you can dig up on Sarah Palin
and family…….
The Palin Family has more class than
you !!!!!!!!!!!!

Obama bloggers will never take the high road – NEVER. And Obama knows it. After all, early in the election process, he help boot camp for bloggers to teach his followers how to produce slime.

I am voting for Ron Paul.

HEY PALIN FANS!!
I just heard on Larry King Live that a McCain team is on their way to Alaska to “do further vetting on Palin!”
Isn’t it a little late for that McCain? Shouldn’t you have done that before you picked her?
I bet Romney is laughing at you right this second McDummy!!!
On CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS and just about every TV Network out there they are tearing Palin to shreds! All the Republicans are spinning their butt’s off, but their spin just sounds totally ridiculous!!!
No Republican will answer the point blank question of “IS PALIN READY TO TAKEOVER AS COMMANDER AND CHIEF IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO McCAIN??”
You should all see them dancing around throwing out the Republican talking points, that she has more “executive experience than either Obama or Biden!
It is just a riot!!!
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!!!!!!

I’ve never seen such support from the “Dobson” crowd, dealing with the Palin’s daughter. With such support from the holiest of all, I can just see the thousands of evangelical young ladies going at it like a room full of bunnies!

hmmm,
If Ms. Palin is a member, or was a member, of the American Independence Party, which advocates secession from the US, then it’s highly unlikely that Ms. Palin will be able to obtain a security clearance from the Federal Government. Since I hold a security clearance I understand what will disqualify her and this is real high on the list. How can a person be VP without a security clearance?

Aston,
Because, like Ms. Palin, that person is not in any way qualified for the VP position. Duh.

Given that Palin has more executive experience than Obama, it looks to me that the Democratic party FAILED its primary objection, and that’s putting up a candidate that is ready to be President from day #1. Epic. Fail.

Chrie E
Your guy still isn’t a VP nominee and Palin is. I guess she’s at least more qualified than him.

Life happens… it’s those who can courageously take the bull head on and endure that I respect. We get hit by life … and isn’t it wonderful to have supportive family to help us through all of life’s woes. Courage and endurance, regardless of the judgment put on one from society, should be hugged. When you take problems head on and not hide, you can look at yourself everyday… and never have to lie. How wonderful that is to live in peace with yourself.
I appreciate that the Palin family is taking these life tests head on.
McCain/Palin ’08…
And I appreciate the integrity McCain has in regards to him knowing this family issue,and is still not afraid of the problems it may cause. Knowing she’s the only champion that has taken on gov’t corruption, energy issues, etc.
Sadly, we as a society has become so cruel and blinded to how fathers can be a good parent. When there are problems w/a family, the first person to be judged is the mother… not realizing that problems come to all race, age, gender, socioeconomics background.

ron paul speaking live at the rally for the republic
http://www.mogulus.com/republicmedia

Obama has spoken – if his daughters get pregnant, he’d take the easy way out and tell his daughters to abort their problem.

Why are you people not commenting on Obama’s use of cocaine and what it can do to the brain cells? Using cocaine is worse than getting pregnant; at least she is bring a life into this world, perhaps another Einstein or Churchill, you never know what a baby will turn out to be.
Don’t be such hypocrits; how many of you had sex in your teens or committed adultry? Look in the mirror, folks.

Ahhh…the “new” politics promised by the Obamatrons is in full swing.
Strange. They bear a strange resemblance to some of the most despicable gutter politics this nation has ever seen, but hey – who’s watching?
Remember when Barack Obama sold cocaine? Has he ever been held accountable for that? What coke would Jesus have sold, Obamatrons?

the real problem with some on the left is she is engaged to be married to the father and is keeping the child (I guess she dosnt mind being punished with a child }.

Aston,
My guy? You assume much Aston. I’m not thrilled with the nominees of either party. I was just responding to comments about Palin’s “executive experience”.
I thought that this stream was about Palin’s daughter. Personally I think we should leave the candidate’s kids out of the debate. This is really a private matter. Shame on the Republican party for holding her up on the national stage as a shining example of family values. She is a 17-year-old girl. EVERYONE, Republicans and democrats alike, should leave her alone. We have plenty of vitriol to spew at eachother’s candidates without involving children.

D A M N A L L O F Y O U!!!!!
LEAVE THE 17 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER
A L O N E…..HAVE YOU NO SHAME OR COMPASSION OR DECENCY????????

@mother of 5 daughters -
AMEN!

You folks are just unbelievable. Attack Palin all you want, she’s the candidate. But the kids? They didn’t bring this on themselves, the vultures on the left are dragging them into this. And enjoying every perverted minute of it.
Sick. But fully expected.

Michael McCoy,
Because we are not interested in your Obama lies anymore.. We are much more interested in how Palin was a POT HEAD!
The American people just find all of Palins “trailer trash stories” much more interesting and juicy than all of that old news you Republicans try to push!!!
Don’t you get it? McDummy and his new beauty queen Sarah Palin are going to be the laughing stock of every office water cooler in America tomorrow morning!!!!
Can you Republicans say President Obama??

While they are vetting Palin, I hope they remember to also vet that guy who is running for president.
You know him, what’s his name??
Oh yeah, Barack Obama.
PUMA!

Bill in NC, obviously you are not thinking with a head at all

How is it possible that the people I can’t stand the most: Lieberman, Ferraro, Hillary supporters are behind the GOP candidate? That the GOP nominee ignores picking someone knowledgeable in the economy when poll after poll says that the economy is what everybody cares about.
Someone please point me to where all the Republicans have gone as I seem to have missed the memo.

so Chris, You would vote for Obama who has little experience? He is a freshman senator who hasn’t done anything except run for President. In our IL legislature, Obama voted PRESENT 120 times. I figure he did this so he wouldn’t be pigeanholed on issues by having voted for them. When asked about 6 of votes, he even said he hit the wrong voting button. Are you real sure you want him in the White House? He might hit the wrong button there and start a war.

Davis, Obama did cocaine. So why call Palin a pot head? Hypocrite

Davis -
Most Republicans and Hillary Supporters are rallying behind Palin. The only ones picking her apart are Obama Supporters and they were not going to vote for her anyway. :D
Umm, maybe no one has told you, but 3 of the Keating 5 were Democrats and were found guilty; John McCain was cleared, so it really is a non-issue.
What else do you have????
PUMA! McCain/Palin 2008 in lieu of Hillary Rodham Clinton

Sandy, I didn’t say that at all. You assume I’m a Democrat because I pointed out an obvious flaw in the GOP ticket? Neither ticket is particularly awe inspiring is it? Obama lacks experience but has leadership qualities – like Kennedy in 1960. McCain was involved in the Keating S & L scandal in the 1980s. If that’s an example of his leadership then I’ll pass. Plus, if the truth be told, he’s a real jerk, according to my company’s lobbyists who have regular contact with him.

box, no one can put religious instructions in our schools because of our constitution? So what are you blathering about/

For a group of people who have been shouting “CHANGE” at the top of their lungs for 17 months and preaching about woman’s rights, equal pay, breaking glass ceilings and that teen pregnancy needs more attention for far longer; I am shocked and appalled at the unelievably negative sentiments.
I thought that Liberals were supposed to be fair minded ones about these things and Conservates were supposed to be the crotchety old spinsters. Silly me.

Really and truly why is it the Evangelicals and so called conservatives won’t stand and condemn this pregnancy. This is setting a horrible example for our youth. Stand and say this is not acceptable. We do not condone this type of behavior. Why is it that so called conservatives are so fake and biased. They think its ok for innocent children to die in Iraq, but say they are pro life. God is not pleased.

The bombshell may involve the murder of Donald Young, a 47-year-old choir master at former Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s Trinity United Church of Christ—the same congregation that Obama has attended for the past 20 years. Two other young black men that attended the same church—Larry Bland and Nate Spencer—were also murdered execution style with bullets to the backs of their heads—all within 40 days of each other, beginning in November 2007. All three were openly homosexual.
What links this story to Barack Obama is that, according to an acquaintance of Obama, Larry Sinclair, Obama is a closet bisexual with whom he had sexual and drug-related encounters in November 1999.
Further, Sinclair claims that Obama was friendly with at least two of these deceased parishioners, and that choir director Donald had contacted him shortly before being murdered from multiple gunshot wounds on December 23, 2007.
These killings are receiving a number of different reactions. Mike Parker, reporting for CBS in Chicago, wrote, “Activists fear gay African-Americans are being targeted for murder,” while Marc Loveless of the Coalition for Justice and Respect queries, “Are we under attack? Is this a serial killer?”
An even more sinister aspect of this case is being investigated. According to Sinclair in an affidavit to the Chicago Police Department, Donald Young had informed him that he and Barack Obama were “intimate” with each other.

Davis: your obsessive love for Obama has got you even believing your own lies, your are just babbling! You know nothing about our defense system!
“Alaska is the first line of defense in our missile interceptor defense system. The 49th Missile Defense Battalion of the Alaska National Guard is the unit that protects the entire nation from ballistic missile attacks. It’s on permanent active duty, unlike other Guard units.
As governor of Alaska, Palin is briefed on highly classified military issues, homeland security, and counterterrorism. Her exposure to classified material may rival even Biden’s.
She’s also the commander in chief of the Alaska State Defense Force (ASDF), a federally recognized militia incorporated into Homeland Security’s counterterrorism plans.
Palin is privy to military and intelligence secrets that are vital to the entire country’s defense. Given Alaska’s proximity to Russia, she may have security clearances we don’t even know about.
According to the Washington Post, she first met with McCain in February, but nobody ever found out. This is a woman used to keeping secrets.
She can be entrusted with our national security, because she already is. ”
—savagepolitics
You can look that up, it’s all there.
As for this vetting; it’s both shocking and disgusting that in a matter of 3 days since Palin was annouced as VP, she has been driven through the mud by crazy Obama supporters, and there are demands to be vetted. Yet, Obama has been on the campaign for almost two years, and he STILL has not been fully vetted. There are numerous aspects of his past that we know NOTHING about. Why is this? Is it sexism, that the woman candidate needs to be vetted, but the much more inexperienced male gets a free pass?
Before you go making demands about vetting Palin; make sure your Obama is vetted. Why are his entire Illinois senate records unavailable? Why did they bar the release of the annerberg challenge records? Why are is the campaign trying to hard to block Kurtz’s discussion of those files?
Trust: the GOP is on top of it all. October surprise my friends, October surprise.

If Sarah Palin’s daughter’s pregnancy is a private issue that has no relevance to the Presidential race, than how can McCain be criticized for reaching that same conclusion? His critics agree that it’s irrelevant, but then they criticize him for not properly vetting Palin, meaning that he should have disqualified her on the grounds that her daughter was pregnant. They want it both ways: The pregnancy is a non-issue, but McCain making it a non-issue is an issue. Folks on the Left make no sense.

What implies bad judgement here on McCain’s part? The fact that Palin has a 17 yr old daughter who is pregnant?
What, should she bow out because of it?
Would we expect that from a male candidate? That her husband had a DUI
20 yrs ago when he was 22? Ted Kennedy drank like a fish throughout most of his Senate career and no one expected him to leave the Senate. In fact if we want to talk dysfunctional family the let’s talk the Kennedys who supposedly just passed the torch to Obama. Infidelity, alcoholism, bribes, kids with drug addictions, rape allegations, car accidents while under the influence resulting in a young women’s death and so on. I’m an Independent, not a Republican but I have always been disgusted with the hypocrisy of the right but I am really disheartened with the hypocrisy of the left. I expected better from Democrats. I also can’t believe the hoopla around her experience given Obama’s slim resume of spending almost his entire first term in the US Senate either doing exploratory committees around a Presidential bid and the rest campaigning for President. People keep mentioning his foreign relations sub-committee. Until just recently he never held one meeting in his stewardship of that committe. He has an abysmal record of even showing up to vote. Where was he on Kyle Lieberman? I don’t know, he gave two different excuses for missing that vote. He was a State Senator while Palin has been a Governor. He was community organizing while she sat on a City Council and was a Mayor. The only difference is Palin didn’t hire Axelrod to strategize and implement events and press to make his candidate with the slim resume look Presidential. Biden was a political choice on Obama’s part to compensate for his lack of foreign policy experience and to attract blue collar voters. Palin clearly was a political choice to not attract Clinton women per se because most of them will not support an anti-choice candidate but rather to attract blue collar and rural voters regardless of gender, to solidify his conservative base and as these sexist attacks on Palin keep coming in from the left, I have no doubt she can pick up some of those Clinton supporters because of it. I question Obama’s judgement about leaving an opening for McCain to take advantage of by not putting Clinton on the ticket. Obviously McCain’s choice threw the Obama camp for a loop and clearly they don’t know how to play it yet and are throwing the whole kitchen sink. The McCain camp says they knew about the pregnancy, the young woman is 5 months pregnant so I have no basis to believe they are lying. It’s not like the young women wouldn’t be showing soon. I give McCain alot more credit for dismissing this pregnancy, something that is occurring in households all over this Country, while the Democrats are acting like Palin should be thrown off the bus. And experience? If any of you recall, Obama’s first choice and who he really wanted on his ticket before he made a political decision and picked Biden, was Tim Kaine from Virginia. Tim Kaine was on the City Council and Mayor of Richmond, Virgina for a combined total of 7 years. He was Lt. Governor and has only been Governor for the same length of time as Palin. If Obama had put him on the ticket would you Obama supporters be screaming about inexperience? Palin was a Commissioner
on Energy, one of our biggest issues facing this Country, on top of her almost identical experience with Tim Kaine. Would Kaine not be a problem because he’s your candidate’s pick? or is it because he’s male? There are young,gifted, up and coming politicians within both the Democrats and Republicans- Palin, Jindal and Obama being three of them. The Democrats opted to put one of their bright and shining stars on the top of the ticket and now McCain has opted to put one on the bottom of the ticket. I have never been so disappointed in the Democratic party and the Democrats as I have this election.

If McCain wanted to shake up the base….well, congratulations. He passes on Romney? Pawlenty? For Palin?? There either was no vetting or a disregard of what little there was…. Either way, McCain looks a foolish egomaniac. He got it right the first phrase in his introduction, “she’s just what I need”. Yeah, you and no one else. Thanks, McCain.

we know the girl is 17 ,, what is the father is 18 or older … what does the law say about this ? spin all you want republicans … this is a mess …
look up the law you ding bats.

A word to all Democrats out there. Those who are firmly on the left will stay there and those firmly on the right will stay there and nothing either party does will change that …. NOTHING.
This is all about the 10% voters that have not yet made up their mind. Name calling from right or left, will not persuade them.
What the Democrats need to be concerned about is the fact that since the day Sarah palin was introduced a NEWLY fired up conservative base made 4 million dollars in on-line contributions to the The McCain campaign. As of that Friday there wont be any voter turnout problem for the GOP anymore.
GAME ON !!!

Obama was a bastard child.
He learned “family values” from a loose woman, his mother, and continues to get advice from one of the “smartest” people he knows, his grandmother, who was irresponsible in letter her daughter get pregnant. How can we trust the judgement of Obama, who was raised in this setting?
How does that sound, Obama supporters? Pretty disgusting? b/c that is EXACTLY what you are doing to Palin, right now. You all are appalling, and it is no surprise that Obama is the only one who can instill this type of evil in you.

1percenter She’s a Governor and last I heard they deal with State budgets.
I’m from MN and I know our Governor is dealing consistently with economic issues so I would imagine it’s not all that different in Alaska. When did Obama have executive experience and deal solely with a budget? He’s not dealing with his campaign budget, where would he have the time? Obama was a State Senator and Palin has been a Governor and last I heard the Governor’s run the show in the State.
They have the veto power. What State are you from that your Governor has nothing to do with your State economy?
And don’t you think the State economy is impacted by what happens on a National level? Do you think Palin is so stupid she’s not aware of that? I think you should watch the CNBC interview with her and then tell me she doesn’t deal with the economy or some of the issues facing us on a National level.

Obama’s supposed first choice for his VP candidate was Tim Kaine from Virginia. Obama opted though to make a political choice and bring on Biden to compensate for his lack of foreign policy experience and to attract those blue collar voters that Clinton overwhelmingly was winning over him.
Gee, Tim Kaine was on the City Council and Mayor of Richmond for a combination of 7 years, was Lt. Governor and has been the Governor of Virginia as long as Palin has in Alaska. I doubt you Obama supporters would have been screaming about his inexperience. Would that be because it’s your own candidate’s choice? or because he’s
male? Obama, given his slim resume and minimal foreign policy experience, probably couldn’t afford to bring on someone like Kaine. McCain can. If Obama can have 300 foreign policy advisors I think McCain can round up a couple hundred for Palin.

Tibbes had earlier fired the governor’s legislative liaison John Bitney, reportedly as a consequence of Bitney dating the estranged wife of a friend of Todd Palin, the Governor’s husband. Andrew Halcro calls Todd Palin, who also played a role in the Monegan firing, the “Shadow Governor.”

If Sarah Palin needed to prove that she was the actual mother of her newest child, why not JUST produce her medical records of the delivery Why expose your own daughter’s teen pregnancy as an explanation. It wasn’t necessary and makes one wonder what else we do’t know about this woman – such as she was a member of a political groupin 1990′s that urged Alaska to secede from the Union. Can McCain truly think that the about is a recommendation for the individual who is only a heartbeat away from the Presidency?

Jo:
“hanging out in the Trinity Church for 20 years total contradicts your stance.”
“Obama has been long-time pals with anti-Americans (Wright and Ayers), but now says he is a great American. His gullible supporters go by what he says, not what he does.

We have a vice presidential candidate whom it appears was not even remotely fully vetted before being picked.
She believes the Pledge of Allegiance was written by the Founding Fathers.
She is vehemently against explicit sex-ed, and coincidentally has a pregnant teen daughter.
She has had to hire private counsel to defend her in a special investigation over whether she fired Alaska’s public safety commissioner after he refused to fire her ex-brother in law.
As mayor of Wasilla, she fired department heads who disagreed with her, including the police chief.
While running for governor, she supported the infamous “Bridge to Nowhere”, telling residents of Ketchikan that she didn’t think they were nowhere. When introduced as McCain’s choice, she flip-flopped and said she told Congress, “No, thanks,” about the bridge.
And oh, yes, she was a member of an Alaskan separatist party.
These are facts and stories that existed before last week, much as any staunch GOP member would love to dump this on Democratic supporters. The only thing that would exceed the Republicans’ shrill disclaimer that there is no truth to anything negative about Governor Palin is the self-righteous denunciation that would be thundering from the right if these stories were about a Democrat.
I don’t delight in this partisan BS bickering. And the only person who seems to be interested in changing this, and working TOGETHER, is Senator Obama. I hope this country wakes up.
Obama/Biden ’08

“Palin’s daughter is pregnant? That’s a shame. But Obama hanging out with Rezko, Wright and Ayers?? That’s just downright SCARY.”
But he has a base support of blacks, die-hard democrats, and youngsters who think he’s cool. Speaks for itself.

Kim,
This country has awakened. That’s why even after the most fawning coverage in all of presidential history, Obama is basically tied with McCain – even after 40 million watched his speech.
As far as Palin, she decided the bridge was costing too much, she wanted that trooper fired because he was violent and tasered his own son, among other things, and I think she’s so darn good she scares the hell out of you because you know women will love her.
She WAS vetted. It’s Obama who wasn’ vetted by YOU people.
But nice try. Run along and have a cookie.

Ahhh Your all Such wonderful people, From such wonderful homes.
Your lives are perfect, everyone in your family is perfect, You live a pefect life. That mush be so Awesome.
The perfect people so full of Hate.
Where did all this hate come from?
Did you people always have so much hate and comtempt in your hearts? Did you always Attack people so evil and hateful?
Seriously, It is horribly sad.
I have seen people attack in the name of party, I have seen people attack others in the same party.
Does Obama generate This hate, or just ask that you project it.
Seems I have never seen Americans hating Americans so bad until he started. It is Frightful. Can he actually get so many to spew so much hate?
Adults should really not be acting like this. It is not healthy for You or the country.
I suggest you take some time and find out what the motivation is for such hate and attacks. Then ask yourself When you started doing it, what has motivated you and realize it is not a good thing.
I hope to God you are able to stop it or control it. It is not good for you, the people around you or the country.
I sure do not want kids growing up thinking it is ok.

It took just a few days to dig up stuff on Palin, yet the mainstream media took a WHOLE YEAR (after some of the primary elections) to find out about Obama’s 20 year MENTOR and PASTOR who is a jew hating, anti american, hate spewing, black separatist.
Oh and that was only after Sean Hannity shamed them into reporting it.
Must be nice to have the entire mainstream media covering your ass for you.
And yet he still can’t reach that 50% mark. Speaks volumes.

Seah, you think there is hate in here for Obama?
LOL. I guess you’ve had your eyes and ears closed for the last 8 years of the most vile, hatefest for President Bush.
Get a clue.

Mike T-
I agree. I am so tired of the Evangelicals caring only about the abortion issue. Let me make it perfectly clear that I abhor abortion, think that it is murder of an innocent soul, and should only be allowed in cases of rape, incest, or danger to the life of the mother.
But to think that Palin is the poster child for conservatism because she is pro-life is just too much.
The record shows she lied about the “bridge to nowhere”. She was for it before she was against it.
She eloped with her husband and if accounts are correct, she had her firstborn only 7.5 months later.
I used to think the trooper thing was no issue, but now I am not sure.
She clearly showed flawed judgement in flying from Texas back to Alaska after her water had broken- especially when she was already a riskier pregnancy.
I do not hold her accountable for her daughter’s behavior, other than to say it looks like daughter is following in her footsteps. The apple usually doesn’t fall far from the tree.
But my anger is at McCain for not doing a proper vetting and then trying to pass her off as a conservative poster child to try to appease conservatives like me. My anger is at the rabid Evangelicals who forget that the first sin is the pre-marital sex and should be fighting that instead of or at least in addtion to focusing on abortion. My anger is at those same Evangelicals and their support of that joke Huckabee who split the conservative vote allowing McCain in in the first place and then fighting to keep Romney out as VP.
I will not vote for Obama and his record of socialism and infanticide. But I am having an ever harder time agreeing to vote for McCain.

Paula Obama very eloquently pointed out today that this young woman’s pregnancy has no relevence in regards to Palin’s abilities as Governor or as a potential VP. Why should McCain not have considered her as a VP choice because of this? Would we expect a man to drop out if this situation occurred in his family? The McCain claims Palin told them of this pregnancy almost immediately and there is absolutely nothing other then those on the left’s speculation and rumor-mongering to believe otherwise. I actually give McCain credit for not disqualifying this woman because of it. If he had, and that had come out then all the Obama supporters would have all of a sudden found their feminist roots and cried sexism. I have no doubt this family has taken into account the media scrutiny they could be under and I would think it would be remiss if the McCain camp hadn’t pointed out them the harshness of the media and asked them if they could handle it. Obviously they felt they could, but I question whether Palin really understood the venom of the National press and what Clinton endured throughout the primaries. I don’t know if anyone could be prepared for the type of trash and venom and hate that is being directed at this young girl and Palin and her family from Obama supporters and those on the left. Clinton, whether you like her or hate her, was unique in that she had spent almost her entire adult life in the political arena and had been on the end of attacks from the right for years going so far as accusing her of being involved in Foster’s death, her having an affair with Foster, her being a lesbian and on and on. When Clinton said she could handle the right wing she could and that prepared her for the attacks from Obama supporters and the left. There is really no woman other then Clinton, other then perhaps Ferraro, who could possibly know what it is to be in this position. I can honestly say I have never been so disgusted and disheartened with the Democrats then I have this election.
This is a family going through a situation families throughout this Country are going through everyday and we don’t expect those fathers and mothers to just quit their jobs or expect that they be fired, so why would we expect that of McCain or Palin?

Political Dean,
Pull the lever for McCain anyway. Sarah Palin is a fiscal conservative and she fights corruption. That’s why they want this investigation into her anyway, because she fought the bad guys and they’re pissed.
Just imagine a president who has buddies like Bill Ayers and Rev Wright. It’s enough to make you not sleep at night.

Republicans need to get off their high horse before Miss Congeniality thinks its a moose and shoots it…..

I hope Governor Palin takes a page right out of Chelsa Clinton’s playbook. Just tell the press, the bloggers, the gossips, the women haters, the self-righteous liberals and conservatives –’That it’s none of their business!’ Oh, and one more thing, tell the Obama campaign to stop peddling the crap like they did to destroy Hillary’s campaign.

No Way, No How, No McCain – Hillary’s message to America!

Jo’s posts are great! I agree with every word.

Debra, so true. Obama will lose. Hillary would have won in November. And all because the media didn’t do their job of vetting Obama till after the primaries started.
Excellent.

Don’t be fooled by Obama seeming to “take the high road”…
When you know the media and your minions behind the scenes will do your dirty work for you, then you know you can safely stand back and pretend to be shocked and saddened that this vile stuff is going on.
Puhleeeze.

Lets vet Obama on:
Reverend Jeremy Wright
Toney Rezko
William Ayers
Rashid Khalidi
Emil Jones
Father Michael Pfleger
Emil Jones
Anneneburg Challenge

and dont forget Donald Young and Larry Bland,

anotherview,
But if we did that kind of vetting, our boy Obama would never win.
Signed,
The Mainstream Media

Ron Paul? Oh yes, there were some protests on the news. Some vile people spitting and cursing at police and passersby and smashing windows.
Oh yeah, and they were wearing Ron Paul buttons.
Nice people. Lol.

Debra, AMEN.

How is this for judgment?
“Hi I’m Obama and I’m the #1 most liberal senator in the U.S. And so to diversy my ticket a little, I think I’ll pick Biden, the 3rd most liberal guy in the senate.”
I think that was a brilliant move. I think that will help me win. Lol.

PALIN=Harriet Miers
Palin/pregnant daughter underage out of wedlock-Cheney/gay pregnant daughter not married (to man)
McCain is doing all of the worst things–we saw from the Bush years!
And Palin is a amalgamation of all of those bad choices in one!

Once again we witness the double standard that the Conservatives practice when it comes to their sins.
I could care less about this girl’s pregnancy. I do care about her hypocritical mother, though. Someone who runs around preaching about “putting family first” and then foists her vulnerable, pregnant teenager onto the national stage so she can pursue her own narcissistic dreams is a scumbag of a human being.
We’ve had ENOUGH Conservative scumbags in the White House for several lifetimes—thank you very much! And we CAN SAY ANYTHING WE WANT ABOUT IT. I don’t see any reason to let the Right ride on this one!!

SO WHAT ABOUT THAT BRIDGE TO NOWHERE ANYWAY??
McCain has bragged that Palin opposed the famous “Bridge to Nowhere,” only to learn now that Palin supported the project and even told residents of Ketchikan that they weren’t “nowhere” to her.
After the national outcry, she decided to spend the funds allocated to the bridge for something else. Actually, maybe it’s more fair to say that coincident with the national outcry, she changed her mind. The story shows her political judgment, but it is not a reformer’s credential…
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN3125537020080901
Likewise, though she did cut property taxes as mayor of Wassila, she raised the sales tax, making her hardly a tax cutter…
The Republicans and McCain can Hide behind this “minor hurricane” (now downgraded to a Tropical Storm and missing New Orleans) anymore…
So as the wind and rain goes away, the “Palin VP Pick Storm” is only going to grow! It will grow into the biggest disaster for McCain and the Republicans in the last 50 years!!!!
Bye, bye Mr. McCain!!!!

There’s only one reason Barack is taking the high road and that is attacking Sarah Palin and her daughter is creating a lot of blowback for his campaign. Kids don’t use good judgment and make mistakes that’s why we call them children. liberal vitriol is doing a lot of good for the GOP and the public exposure of the hate party is heartwarming. So, keep it up, please.

Well, you can count me as one person whose not buying the latest spin in the least. Immediately after Palin was chosen as McCain’s running-mate, the bloggers were all over the story that Sarah Palin’s fifth child, Trig, was in fact the child of her 17 year-old daughter, Bristol.
The history of that story goes something like this: Palin announces her fifth pregnancy to a SHOCKED media and STAFF just a little more than a month before she actually gives birth. The media points out that the Governor, who was supposedly more than seven month pregnant, looked not at all pregnant. Published pictures taken around Super Tuesday show a very thin Palin. In addition, it was reported that classmates of daughter, Bristol, say she was removed from school for a period of four to five months prior to and including the time of Trig’s birth, supposedly because she was suffering from a long bout of mono.
If that’s not coincidence enough, today comes the revelation that, well, 17 year-old Bristol is in fact now pregnant – and coincidentally five months pregnant. So we’re supposed to believe that she got pregnant at roughly the exact same time that her mother was giving birth to her brother, Trig (conveniently squashing the possibility that Trig is Bristol’s), while she was out of school convalescing from a long bout of mono.
So why do I now get the feeling that Bristol will have an unfortunate miscarriage either just prior to or after the election? And since teen girls often deliver prematurely – as early as 7-1/2 months – that would give enough slack in the normal nine month pregnancy period to allow for Bristol to have actually gotten pregnant again after giving birth to Trig.
Think that can’t happen? My own sister gave birth to two babies in just under 20 months, while 17 and 19. Oh, and similar to Palin’s daughter, she was taken out of school by my parents – the story line being that she had transferred to a private school out of the area – a ruse no one believed, including both friends and teachers who confronted me at school about whether or not she had given birth.

JP2-
Sorry, but the true crazies are the Ron Paul fanatics.
I was a delegate at the WA State GOP convention and the stuff they tried to push through on platform was crazy.
Plus, Ron Paul is one of the biggest hypocrites around. He loads up bills with earmarks and then votes against them (knowing they will pass anyway) so that his district gets the cash and then he has the nerve to go around saying he is conservative and fights pork.
And he, like Obama, is, was, and will be forever wrong on the issue of national security.

So now having a pregnant teenage daughter disqualifies someone for public office? Get real.

Two weeks ago I was a Democrat. Today I’m an Independent. I am so tired of the extreme liberal and mean-spirited left of our party. Someone on this blog actually called that little girl a slut. No political objective is worth what liberals are willing to do to get it.

This is a perfect example of the business as usual in Washington! Just as Bush did not get all the facts before invading Iraq, McCain did not get all the facts before selecting Palin. You should all be pissed off…that man has the nerve to make her the potential VP and possible future President which is a total disregard for the people of this country. To leave us in the hands of a woman who was on the committee to make Alaska Independent of the US, who has zilch experience, and cannot even be there for her children. The McCain supporters should be ashamed of him. Continuing to make a circus out of our country…we have been laughed at by the rest of the world for 8 years and 8 is ENOUGH!

“Two weeks ago I was a Democrat. Today I’m an Independent. I am so tired of the extreme liberal and mean-spirited left of our party.”
I know how you feel. Those left-wing nuts need to leave the party and join the socialist or communist parties were they belong.

Who’s running for office the mother or the daughter? Last I checked it was the mother. Why would the choices of the daughter/child have any bearing on the decisions the mother/parent would have to make as a V.P.? Do decisions your child/brother/sister make have an bearing on decisions you need to make at your job? Leave the child out of the discussion.
What, you can’t find anything else to use that would “prove” this individual is not “worthy” to be a Vice President?

“You should all be pissed off…that man has the nerve to make her the potential VP and possible future President which is a total disregard for the people of this country.”
I’d rather have those 2 in the Whitehouse than the likes of Barry and his mentor Wright. Not to mention his whacked out domestic terrorist friend, Ayers.

“I would like to think that at some point in your lives, you were good people, but somehow your obsession with Obama, has drawn out the sheer worst in people. At what other time in your life would you have justified yourself as OK to attack a child? ”
A few months ago they were attacking Hillary. So I guess they are misogynists.They have a love affair going with Barry.

OK McCain,
Hurricane is over, it only turned out to be a Category 1 and missed New Orleans, so can we get back to that Republican convention of yours??
How long are you going to hide behind this puny tropical storm anyway?
We the American People WANT to see the complete and utter FAILURE of you and your RNC Convention, in all of its Glory!!!
We can’t wait to hear the “POWER” of your acceptance speech on Thursday! We want YOU TO TELL US like Mr. Obama did, why you would make a better president than he would!!!
Say are you going to have a LIME GREEN background behind you again! I really think that one was a winner, do it again!!
We are also all waiting to have your new VP speak to us as well, to assure us that she can step into your shoes at a moments notice and be president…
But can you please tell her not to give that same “hockey mom” speech again, you know the one with the centerpoint being that LIE about the “Bridge to Nowhere” OK? We have had enough of that LIE!
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN3125537020080901
That speech is getting a little boring, we want to hear something POWERFUL from your new VP, to show us she is not just a “lightweight” beauty queen!!!
Thanks John!!

“Say are you going to have a LIME GREEN background behind you again! I really think that one was a winner, do it again!!”
I guess it can’t compare to a faux-greek temple and a free concert.

Frankly, the photograph of Bristol carrying “her brother” looks a great deal like a mom cradling her breast-fed infant. It is tender and maternal. But if Palin lied about this fifth child, what does this make her as a VP to be a 72-year-old heartbeat away from the most powerful office in the world, with our national security and military and economy to manage?

“While Obama might do a hundred things as President that I believe are bad for the country, I am confident that he would surround himself with experienced, informed, competent advisors and that he would make no world-destroying blunders.
Yes look no further than his mentor of 20 years, Wright. Wasn’t he on his advisory committee until he was forced to throw him under the bus. He can always look to Ayers for domestic advice, since he has a lot of experience in that area.

“MACK: At least Obama can fill a stadium.”
Offer them a concert and they will come.

“Mack my dear, you are proving yourself to be quite desperate now. Cute though.”
It seems to me that desperation is attacking a VP candidate’s kid. Why the fear of Palin? If she is such a bad pick then it should be a cakewalk. You should be celebrating.

Obama knows how to fill a stadium with rock concerts….while the rest of us grown ups not fascinated with celebrity pop stars, are focused on voting McCain/Palin in Nov.
Hey does anybody know if the good Rev. Wright, Ayers, Rezko and Pfleger had front row seats at the Grecian Gore Fest last Thursday?
Obama’s big Biden/Convention bump?
When WILL this guy get to double digits, like Kerry did?

“Hey does anybody know if the good Rev. Wright, Ayers, Rezko and Pfleger had front row seats at the Grecian Gore Fest last Thursday?”
Don’t know about the rest of them, although I believe that his good friend and real estate agent, Rezko is in prison.

“Goodnight Mack!”
Goodnight Kim. Back at it tomorrow.

Mack…don’t let the slime here on these blogs get to you. Americans get it right in the booth on Nov. 4th…I have faith the top of the ticket is ALWAYS WHAT VOTERS ARE VOTING FOR. And with a no one knew him last year, inexperienced, friends with criminals, racists and Anti Americans, kind of Dem candidate like BO, there is no way. If every young and delusional and black voter can make it happen then we’re in trouble. I would have voted for a Colin or Condi but never B. Hussein. And the making history by voting for him is null and void as I will be voting McCAIN/PALIN.

Darn, I’m trying to go to bed….
alpaig52: The bottom line is Kaine was NOT picked. Regardless, judgment AGAIN shown by Obama. Gees you guys are truly scared!
All the references to Ayers, Wright, whoever else you want to throw out there is just desperation. You aqree being laughed at by the MAJORITY of people.
Look, we haqd to put up with your dumb pick TWICE. Deal with it. It’s our turn!

Mack I agree. The Obama camp was obviously caught off guard and are worried about Palin otherwise we wouldn’t be seeing the kitchen sink thrown at her and her family right now.
Everyone thinks McCain put Palin on the ticket to woo Clinton supporters but Palin’s conservative positions on social issues won’t bring alot of them over. What she can do though is appeal to those blue collar and rural voters that Hillary was overwhelmingly winning and that Biden was brought on to appeal to. She also solidifys McCain’s GOP conservative base and after reading all the trash on these blogs coming from Obama supporters I’m sure a few Clinton supporters will come on board when they see the sexism lodged at Palin and now her daughter. If anyone’s judgement should be questioned, and I have no doubt it is right now in the Obama camp, it was the decision to not put Clinton on the ticket.

“Mack…don’t let the slime here on these blogs get to you.”
I would definitely define some of them as slime. Look at the way they attacked one of their own, Hillary.
Country first always.

“Look, we haqd to put up with your dumb pick TWICE. Deal with it. It’s our turn!”
Yes, you are entitled to your dumb pick. 2 Wrongs don’t make it Wright.

Reily….Obama should be in double digits after his rock fest last Thursday and the media blitz. Republicans have lost 25% of their convention so far, and expected to lose more with no media coverage. It’s more important to film the drizzle/aftermath of Gustav, I guess that’s what the liberal media thinks. Well it won’t work…McCain’s fundraising is up big time and his numbers are holding steady and fairly even IN A NO BRAINER DEM YEAR, RIGHT?
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN/PALIN

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It’s amazing that as I read an US magazine tonight on THE RECORD page, there are 3 pregnancies or births to celebrities THAT ARE NOT MARRIED. The lib Hollywood crowd, same one that supports BO, announce pregnancies between unmarrieds as if it’s a celebration, and yet this same crowd is so quick to attack Gov. Palin and Bristol. I’m just comforted that McCain knew about this and decided to go ahead and invite Gov. Palin on board. Since Bristol is 5 months along, clearly Palin knew about it. I originally thought Bristol had been keeping it a secret from her parents, since she probably didn’t know her mom was being vetted for VP.
Either way this doesn’t change my mind in the least….still voting for the best man to lead this country…John Sydney and never Barack Hussein. Palin will do a fine job…has more executive experience THAN ALL THREE CANDIDATES.

It always amazes me how republicans can be so two-faced. They attack, attack, attack Obama on experience and then put a far less qualified candidate on the ticket of a 72yr old cancer surviver, they attack on values and then put a politician who puts politics before family (it should be her business, but the repubs made it ours by default, they accuse Obama of being a liar, but politifact has McCain as much more dishonest, they get up in arms about Rezko and here this woman is directly abusing power for her personal ends, they cry about liberal bloggers but it is the McCain camp that offers McCain Blogger Points or whatever they are called, and though not the last instance of their hypocrisy they have the nerve to claim that Obama is going to ruin the economy when they already have. It makes me sick to think half of our country is so completely ignorant of their own self-righteous hypocrisy. The fascist right is the source of much that is wrong with the US, but they won’t fool, scare, or threaten us this into voting against our better interests this year.

The McCain people seem to think that the media vetting Palin where the McCain campaign did not is a sign of fear or of unfairness or even sexism. Wrong. Obama has been thoroughly vetted for the last year and a half (unless your an anti-christ conspiracy theorist) and we have the same right to know who this person is as we did to find out who he is. It is rather unfair of McCain to do this to people who were considering voting for him. Her views are radical to say the least and her blatant contempt for science and the environment is highly disturbing. The fact is that this comes of as a cynical attempt to play politics with gender and I fear that it will backfire. I went from considering McCain a viable alternative to understanding that the man is more double speak than straight talk and ruling altogether. He said he wanted a VP who could step right into the job in case he has health problems and this is his solution? Scary.

VETTING….Obama was not vetted regarding Rev. Wright, Rezko and Ayers before his 11 state win in Feb…he would never have won in Iowa if they knew the 20 relationship of the mentor/uncle who married him, baptised his girls and yelled racist, hateful anti-American sermons from the pulpit. BO’s relationship with Ayers and Rezko (and still being looked into) hadn’t been revealed before Feb. either….SO OBAMA WASN’T VETTED.

tx mom….no, I switched to McCain when Hillary dropped out. I am an Independent who would rather see a Hillary or McCain Presidency but NEVER an Obama Presidency…AND DON’T CALL ME A RACIST.

Inata…McCain DOES PUT AMERICA FIRST…THAT’S WHY MILLIONS OF US WILL BE VOTING FOR HIM. Obama and his celebrity only come first with him and it is so apparent to all. WHAT HAS HE DONE FOR ANY OF US? Really, what has he done in 2 years, except campaign for Prez? His ego is the biggest thing he has going for him.

Debra,
Where did I call you a racist?
I never mentioned anything about race or racism.
Do you have some kind of complex about this?

alpaig,
I am puzzled by your logic. So if someone has difficulties in their life, or makes bad decisions, it makes them like “everyone else” and this then means they will be a great President?
Wow. No I don’t want a president who is “just like everyone else.” I mean, my ex brother in law whose got two illegitimate kids and has had three divorces, he’s a nice guy, and he’s just like lots of other people, but I don’t think he’s qualified to run the country.
And Debra, the press has looked into all those things about Obama you mentioned, even though some of these things concern looking not into his life, but into the lives of those around him (even casual acquaintances).
So by your reasoning, its perfectly okay to be looking into Sarah Palin’s daughter’s private life.
Frankly, you are wrong on both counts.

Remember: everyone uses drugs every day. Count them in your house 4 fun.

Unwed teen age daughter!? ABC news is talking about a teen aged daughter who isn’t involved in the political debate. This unwed teen aged daughter wasn’t on the road with her mom.
Like Hillary Clinton who ABC implied multiple times that Chelsea was separate from the debate although she was on the road with the Hill team.
Equally entertaining is the notion that Obama Wife and Kids are off of the debate even though his wife is never two inches from the Limelight. The Obamas directly shoved their kids into interviews with reporters, a bit ignorantly.
But after all who is keeping count? I am sure Paulins daughter snuck out and did some political fundrasing and interviewing while espousing her political POV. Which would completely justify this, right?

we only use “Pro-Life” depleted uranium “bunker busters”. Radiation disfigurement for Jesus.

My republican son voted for Hillary Clinton. I fell off my chair when he told me. He said, Hillary is extremely intelligent and could have been one of the best presidents of our time.
My son thought I would be voting for Obama since he is corrupt and most democrats are blindly voting for him. I am not voting for Obama. Frankly, I don’t think my president’s name should be Barrack Hussein Obama Jr. I would have more respect for Obama if he went to his native country Kenya and help them become civilized. Instead Obama is trying to make America into a 3rd world country like Kenya. I hate the name Barrack Hussein Obama. Period. It’s like drinking sewer water. gike!
I Love You Hillary. Obama NEVER.

The respect McCain has shown Obama and now Obama is showing Palin is extraordinary. I hope it points towards a brighter, more diverse future for the US and, eventually, for the Western world. Do you think a black President or female VP could enfranchise others in the States and across the globe? I’d love to know your thoughts on the FreshMinds Talent Blog: http://blogs.freshminds.co.uk/talent/?p=385

Once the party of human dignity, human rights, womens rights, the party of the people, now the democratic party has become the party of thugs, goons, low life trash.
I was a democrat all my adult life. What was I thinking? Hillary is the only true democrat, the one I love and respect. NO Obama. Kenya refugee.

And her daughter being pregnant makes her unfit because? Oh wait, because she has more experience at running something bigger than their own campaign? Yes folks Obama, said on 9/1/08 on tv that he was the more experienced of the 2( himself and Palin) because he ran HIS OWN CAMPAIGN for 2 years. Well, not that running a state is the same as the country but it is a heck of a lot more important and demanding than a campaign. Is anyone really listening to this guy? The last I checked Palin was running for VP not the president of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
By his own admission, Obama says, he is experienced at running a campaign and that gives him more experience that the the leader of a state. Where is this guy from and what is he thinking. The sad part is he believes it! Do you believe it also???????? Change might be a good thing but are you sure the change you are going to get with Obama is going to help this county.

Mr. Wray is an example of a win at all cost person. Ms. Palins daughter is just like many kids who simply made a mistake, has nothing to do with politics, has nothing to do with how she was raised, has nothing to do with the values of her Mom. I am an older man, the result of a Mom who was 16 at my birth. She is and always has been a wonderful Mother, a mother of 4 and grandmother of 6, a dedicated democrat(to my chagrin). So please Mr. wray and others like you dismount from your high horse and leave it alone. There are issues important to us all and we don’t get to hear them for all this nonsense.

Since when is a pregnancy a violation of family values?
If Bristol marries the guy, and keeps the baby, how is this wrong?
Oh, by the way, Ann Dunham Obama gave birth to Barack when she was 18.
Tramp.

That’s right, everybody. Keep up with the Palin daughter smears.
Keep suggesting the ‘hypocrisy’ of the Republicans.
You sound just like John Kerry and John Edwards did when they thought they were being sly by noting that Cheney’s daughter is a lesbian.
The subtext is exactly same:
“A responsible Republican does NOT have a lesbian daughter/pregnant teenage daughter.”
And it’s going to play just as well with voters now as it did then.
Republicans will rally around Palin (shocked by this? Republicans are people, too) and Independents will be put off by those making the charges.
And this just may be the straw that breaks the Democrats’ backs just like it was then.

“Private Issue” in a presidential campaign? Is everyone crazy? This is definitely a public concern. So-called “conservatives” went insane because Jamie Lynn Spears got pregnant and she is just in a TV show. Everyone was in an uproar over what a terrible role model she is! Now these same folks are saying having a pregnant teen in the White House for children have as a role model is perfectly fine? No way!! Republicans have one rule for themselves and another for everyone else.
And these kids are going to get married at ages 17 & 18?? What a joke! So by the time they’re 23 they’ll be divorced with 3 or 4 screwed up kids running around. Nice.
Sarah Palin is going around proclaiming she is a dedicated prolifer because she gave birth to a down syndrome baby. Well, there are only 2 tests available to pregnant women to determine with certainty if a child will be born with Down Syndrome. Both are extremely risky to the fetus!! Why would you put your unborn baby at risk for miscarriage if you intended to continue the pregnancy no matter what?? The only reason any pregnant women chooses to take this risk is because they want the choice to terminate the pregnancy. If she says anything else she is lying. Yes, she ultimately chose to keep her child–which is wonderful–but she did so after putting him as great risk.
Another hypocrisy: Sarah Palin and her commercial fisherman husband are both avid hunters. Pro-life?? Apparently they are arrogant enough to decide that some lives are worth saving and that they have the right to take others. There are repulsive photos of her and her husband on her Alaska governor’s web page under “bio” of her all smiles with some poor murdered deer whose live she stole for no reason.
This woman is a phony hipocrit.

Obama is a Chicago con and the world is finally waking up……..
Obama never won the primary. Obama stole it from Hillary.The world watched as the DNC handed the nomination to Obama by silencing voters.
The media can say what they want about Obama winning the primary but voters know the truth, especially Clinton supporters. Obama ignored voters. Florida and Michigan will never forget it.
Obama and Michelle were given a second chance to put Hillary on his ticket, but instead chose to hog the glory and embarrass the Democratic Party.
Obama could have won these women over. He should have taken advantage of the Clinton’s popularity and the love still felt for them throughout the world. Instead, he lost more respect from women across America. McCain is winning the Hillary women with his VP pick.
Obama is risky, radical and not a great patriot. Remember: Rezko, (the criminal), Reverend Wright (the anti Semitic racist) and William Ayers ( Obama’s coworker = domestic terrorist)
The list of his ugly friends with radical beliefs are endless.
God is watching and the world is laughing at our unfair voting process in the Democratic Party.
Obama should step down.

Sg_NE
You don’t know anything about the Florida election. Every recount that has been done since the election, including a YEAR LONG recount done by the media making sure to count every possible vote in an exhaustive fashion, found that Bush won Florida.
They had election laws in Florida, which were followed to the letter by Republicans during the recount. Gore wanted to keep recounting votes until he found a way to win. They even did recounts ONLY in Gore heavy counties trying to alter the total. The liberal Florida Supreme Court decided that what was said very clearly in Florida election law had to be overturned to give their fellow Democrats time to try and find enough votes to win. Eventually, the US Supreme Court decided Florida election law should stand, and that they’d recounted enough.
But it’s all moot in the end, as again, every recount done since has shown that Bush won anyway.

Why don’t you people try picking on an adult…leave this little girl alone at least until she graduates high school…how about a little decency?
I don’t understand the hate-fullness and mean-spiritedness you see from libs today. It should go against everything you all stand for no? I read a couple posts and the comments section at the Kos about this…it makes me sad to know that so many people can be that nasty and hateful to a 17-year old girl just because her mom is a Republican. How ironic and hypocritical.

I think John Mccain has just shown to the American people about his poor jugdment picking some one to be your VP and then go after to check her record is like given the best medication to some body who is death, i think Sara Palin did not do her work as a mother because a mother has to teach her girls about sex eduation from the start of their menstration so she has failed on that, secondly she is a teeneger and the guy who inpregnated her most be a teeneger too so who will pay the bills for two unemployed couples, the family communique of Mr and Mrs Palin yesterday is a spam message because being a parent comes responsibility were in the world has a seventeen year old becomes responsible, i think John Mccain has put politics first and country second this contradict his own message as writen on the baner of the 29/08/2008 when he introduce Mrs Sara Palin.

Looks like the liberal blogs are getting nervous after the smear campaign against Gov Palin. Did you know Newsweek and moveon funds the Daily Kos which was spreading lies about Palin. Obama realized it will backfire so he came up with a strong response. Shame on you liberal left…
- A McCain Democrat from MA

David,
I could not have said it any better.

Psa 26:4 I did not sit with liars, and I will not be found among hypocrites.
These so called evangelicals who are really political cronies hiding behind the cloth love the Republican Party more than they love God. They don’t have any family values. But we all know if that were Michelle Obama’s or Hillary Clinton’s pregnant teenage daughter Tony Perkins and others would be pointing a finger at them and saying what a poor example they are setting. They would be raking these mothers across the hotest of coals.
As a born again, bible-toting Christian, I’m offended by these hypocrites

“Children are like wet cement. Whatever falls on them makes an impression.” Dr. Haim Ginott”
What impression did Jeremiah Wright and William Ayres make on the Obama kids?
I’m sure some Clinton supporters recognize the Obama smear tactics.

I’m so happy that the so many of the Democrats commenting in this thread show themselves to be so tolerant of others. Heaven forbid that anyone, other than a liberal, makes a mistake in judgement as this young lady has done.
Does teaching abstinence always work? Of course not you idiots! But does teaching nothing but birth control work? Obviously not since the unwed birth rate is constantly increasing. So what’s wrong with teaching all of it, including the FACT that the only 100% reliable birth control method is abstinence.
I have to say I am sickened by the outpouring of vitriol from liberals I have witnessed since the the announcement of Sarah Palin to be a candidate for VP.
I challenge anyone to show me examples from any mainstream conservative site that even remotely approaches the hate spewed by some of the people commenting on this site.

The Democrat Party – from Camelot (JFK) to Gutter Trash in two short generations.
Ya’ll are so wound up in your self-hatred that you cannot see reality anymore. I have nothing but pity for you.

Most Americans can relate to Sarah Palin and her family.
Obama’s strange family A fist bumbing wife. zero friends. racist church. terrorist neighbor. convicted felon business partner.

If Chelsey Clinton became pregnant as a teen in the white house what then would the my fellow republicans & the media be saying about it?

oh and argh! that’s exactly what this article is about. Obama has strictly said that he doesn’t believe in dragging anyone’s family through the political mud, AND he mentioned in his OFFICIAL statement that his mother gave birth to him at 18. So PLEASE stop wasting everybody’s time with your purely idiotic factually WRONG statements.

geevill get with the times. Fist bumps are very common. Oh I guess not with your generation though.

I respectfully submit that you critics of Palin don’t quite get it.
Simply because you hold certain views (about family or whatever) does not mean your family is expected to be perfect in every respect. That is a REALLY important point not a throw -away defense.
Why? Because the whole philosophy of conservatism has among its premises that humans are not perfect nor perfectable. We ARE expected to try to live morally, but that does not mean people never make mistakes, nor can we have children who’s behavior is always perfect.
That’s why we believe in freedom and responsiblity, not a utopian vision of “progressive” government control of our affairs. Think about it, please.
Thank you!
Craig

Also, are you implying that only republicans/conservatives have the sole domain over such ideas as the acceptance of imperfection and the strive for ideals? Like as if some how you conservatives are the only progressive thinkers in the political and ideological landscape. Get it?

Argh! please read the article above, to which we are directing our comments. It clearly states that Obama has officially said that this matter should be off limits to all who wish to speculate. I am at a loss, you seem to be impervious to reason OR fact. Argh!, are you an idiot?

Leave the kid out of this. Question Palin’s political decisions and definitely look closely at her decisions as governor but leave the daughter out of this.
Obama said the right thing and you need to give him credit for that whether you think it was a political move or truly a personal response.
Obama-Biden 2008!

Republicans think they own the value issues. Yet cannot prevent their daughters from fornicating around. They pontificate on morality, yet are corrupt like the devil himself. The hypocrisy of these republicans is stunning and shocking!

Leave her alone. Leave her Alone. Republicans are so quick to defend Palins daughter’s pregnancy as off limits. When you walk around claiming to be the compass of moral values, nothing is off limits.
I bet if one of the Obama girls got pregnant. It wouldnt be off limits, The republicans would run wild with.

The Republicans on this site expected that they could say horrible things, peddle terrible stories about Obama, his family, and Democrats in general, pound us again and again, and not be hit back eventually by the Democrats they ticked off. Sounds naive to me.
If you decide anything goes in sliming and defaming a party, and you use this ruthless approach to batter the political opposition out of contention, sooner or later, some of these people will see being a little ruthless as the only way to defend their interests and their candidates.
If you feel so shocked, so dismayed, so outraged by the corrosive attention these folks have been getting in the Palin family, you should step back and consider just how everybody feels about this “vetting” that Republicans have been doing about Obama’s life and family.

did obama wink at his supporters when he suggested that palin’s daughter was off-limits?

I am afraid I don’t understand why this should be a “private matter”.
Just two days ago Republican commentators were pointing to Gov. Palin’s “Personal Biography” as the very reason why we should be voting for her.
Just TWO DAYS ago her supporters and advocates celebrated her “personal biography”, her decision as a 40+-year old woman to have a child with down’s syndrome as THE VERY REASON we should be voting for her.
Now, two-days later, after a potentially embarrassing revelation, her “personal biography” is off-limits?
What changed? Does the entire Republican party, like Sen. McCain, no longer know its own mind?

I am afraid I don’t understand why this should be a “private matter”.
Is sex-education, and the efficacy of various forms of sex-education – abstinence only, contraception use, not a matter of public policy?
Just two days ago, Republicans were cheering on Gov. Palin, in particular for her choice as a 40+ year old woman to carry a child with down’s syndrome to term. Republicans made Gov. Palin’s “private life” a matter of “public discussion”. They cheered because they told voters she was particularly qualified BECAUSE OF HER PERSONAL BIOGRAPHY : here is a woman who not only talks-the-talk, but also walks-the-walk.
So, we are just taking them up on their invitation, and examining that personal biography closely. There is nothing slimy about it.

I have always been tired of the GOP using Religion and God to sway voters….it should simply be about the critical issues and the best leaders to build concensus and implement necessary change to help ALL Americans, not just the faithful. I thought it was hypocritical that Gov. Palin had her poor 17year old daughter holding the 4-month baby with a blanket covering her belly…if she was sooo proud, why were they hiding this? This is so obviously a tactic and it insults educated women like me who can see right thru this risky move. I wonder how the GOP and the media would react if it was a political family that happeed to be Hispanic or black? Would we see it as simply a “common mistake”?! or, would we call it another example of the lack of American values and a baby out of wedlock?!?
Clearly there is a double standard and hypocrisy…Again, it should be about the best candidates and focus on issues.

this is about McCain, period. he says he knew ahead of time that Palin’s minor daughter was pregnant … this is a lie.
Look .. McCain has been doing everything he can for months to get traction. He has been crying that he gets no news coverage.
Do you really believe that with the full spot light of the media on the RNC McCain wanted to spend his time saying keep the girl out of it or … yes Palin was fully vetted ? Answer is no.
You know as well as I do McCain wanted to be spending this time attacking Obama. He has wasted some of his prime time coverage to do so by having to spend time spinning this.
You people are crazy to continue to harp on …leave the girl alone BS.
This is all about McCain the fact that not enough folks are talking about McCain tells me that the spin to deflect this away from McCain and on to this girl is working.
This is shameful … McCain an adult should be stepping up and telling the American people why he chose to have something like this disclosed the way it was to the world. Had he know he should have announced it and after announcing it said, now everyone back off the girl; and folks would have. The way this came out is borderline scandaleous. McCain chose how this came out … and in doing so he is responsible for the way the media is reacting to this HE john mccain has put this girl in the media limelight.
This is about McCain … anyone who thinks otherwise drinks too much mainstream media kool aid.

am one of those independents that everyone wants to swing to their side of the Dem/Rep line and here is where I am at right now. I have not made up my mind on who to vote for as I do not know enough about Sen. Obama yet but… using a teen as a political tool turns me off. we did not see the Clinton’s, Gore’s, Bush’s, in fact… I’m 51 and I have never seen children used as weapons in America (political or otherwise). A lot of us independents are watching to see just how this plays out but as it stands right this moment… I am leaning towards voting for the republicans due to the nasty nature of the innuendos that many of the press and (as I see above) Obama supporters are putting out there. I have not made up my mind yet and Sen. Obama said what I believe is the proper course of action but this is not what I am seeing from his supporters… I am interested in seeing just how civilized and humane the Dems actually are.

I am happy to see Mrs Palin’s daughter keeping her child as Palin kept her child. What makes anyone think just because you are for family values that none of our children will ever make a mistake. That would be very immature thinking. This does not mean they are a bad parent, for we can’t be with our children 24/7. You know none of us are guaranteed the “perfect” family, but what we do when one makes a mistake in life, that shows what kind of “family” it really is.
We as parents get from our “children”, it doesn’t matter what I do, or not do, for it doesn’t affect anyone but me…
this… shows that whatever we do,,,,does effect those your life touches..for the good or for the bad.
As the saying goes, when life hands you a lemon, what you need to do is to make lemonade…

Subject: Obama & McCain on taxes
Here is why Obama is bad news and why he has no idea how to lead
A few points to remember and consider:
You can verify the tax information at
> http://money.cnn.com/news/specials/election/2008/index..html,
> if you’d like.
>
> (INTERESTING DATA JUST RECEIVED ON TAXES
> & PROPOSED CHANGES IN TAXES AFTER 2008 GENERAL
> ELECTION.)
> Time to consider your pocketbook:
>
> CAPITAL GAINS TAX
>
> MCCAIN:
> 0% on home sales up to $500,000 per home
> (couples). McCain does not propose any change in existing
> home sales income tax.
>
> OBAMA:
> 28% on profit from ALL home sales
>
> How does this affect you?
> If you sell your home and make a profit, you
> will pay 28% of your gain on taxes. If you are heading
> toward retirement and would like to down-size your home or
> move into a retirement community, 28% of the money you make
> from your home will go to taxes. This proposal will
> adversely affect the elderly who are counting on the income
> from their homes as part of their retirement income.
>
> DIVIDEND TAX
> MCCAIN : 15% (no change)
>
> OBAMA : 39.6%
>
> How will this affect you?
> If you have any money invested in stock
> market, IRA, mutual funds, college funds, life insurance,
> retirement accounts, or anything that pays or reinvests
> dividends, you will now be paying nearly 40% of the money
> earned on taxes if Obama becomes president. The experts
> predict that ‘Higher tax rates on dividends and capital
> gains would crash the stock market, yet do absolutely
> nothing to cut the deficit.’
>
> INCOME TAX (find your bracket)
> MCCAIN (no changes)
>
> Single making 30K – tax $4,500
> Single making 50K – tax $12,500
> Single making 75K – tax $18,750
> Married making 60K- tax $9,000
> Married making 75K – tax $18,750
> Married making 125K – tax $31,250
>
> OBAMA (reverse all tax cuts)
>
> Single making 30K – tax $8,400
> Single making 50K – tax $14,000
> Single making 75K – tax $23,250
> Married making 60K – tax $16,800
> Married making 75K – tax $21,000
> Married making 125K – tax $38,750
>
> Under Obama, your taxes will more than
> double!
>
> How does this affect you? No explanation
> needed. This is pretty straight
> forward.
>
> INHERITANCE TAX
>
> MCCAIN 0% (No change, Bush repealed
> this tax)
>
> OBAMA Restore the inheritance
> tax
>
> How does this affect you?
>
> Many families have lost businesses, farms,
> ranches, and homes that have been in their families for
> generations because they could not afford the inheritance
> tax. Those willing their assets to loved ones will only lose
> them to these taxes.
>
> NEW TAXES BEING PROPOSED BY OBAMA
>
> New government taxes proposed on homes that
> are more than 2400 square feet.
>
> New gasoline taxes (as if gas weren’t
> high enough already)
>
> New taxes on natural resources consumption
> (heating gas, water, electricity)
>
> New taxes on retirement accounts, and last
> but not least….
>
> New taxes to pay for socialized medicine so
> we can receive the same level of medical care as other
> third-world countries!!!
>
> THE FOREGOING IS SOMETHING YOU SHOULD BE
> AWARE OF. . . IT SHOULD MAKE YOU THINK BEFORE YOU CAST YOUR
> VOTE IN NOVEMBER.
>
> Please spread the word. This will catch
> a lot of families off guard.
>
>
>
> In God we trust!