Obama Targeted on ‘Sex Ed for Kindergarteners’
ABC News’ Teddy Davis and Rigel Anderson report: Barack Obama came under fire from the McCain campaign on Tuesday for backing state legislation which would have armed public school teachers in Illinois – including those who teach students as young as kindergarten – with sex education standards.
"Learning about sex before learning to read?" asks the narrator in a new ad from John McCain. "Barack Obama. Wrong on education. Wrong for your family."
Watch it HERE.
The criticism of Obama on sex education stems from his work in the Illinois state senate on legislation which would have taken the state’s entire sex education standards, which related to 6th through 12th grade, and applied them to all of K-12.
The legislation, which was never enacted, included an "opt out" provision for parents.
Sex education for kindergarteners first entered the presidential campaign on July 17, 2007 when Obama discussed his views on the topic while appearing before a Planned Parenthood conference in Washington, D.C.
Watch Video HERE.
Obama was asked his position on sex education and he mimicked an attack that was launched on him in his 2004 Senate campaign by Republican Alan Keyes.
"Barack Obama supports teaching sex education to kindergarteners," said Obama mimicking Keyes’ distinctive style of speech. "Which — I didn’t know what to tell him (laughter)."
"But it’s the right thing to do," Obama continued, "to provide age-appropriate sex education, science-based sex education in schools."
When Obama’s campaign was asked last year by ABC News to explain what kind of sex education Obama considers "age appropriate" for kindergarteners, the Obama campaign pointed to an Oct. 6, 2004 story from the Daily Herald.
"’Nobody’s suggesting that kindergartners are going to be getting information about sex in the way that we think about it,’" Obama told the Daily Herald. "’If they ask a teacher ‘where do babies come from,’ that providing information that the fact is that it’s not a stork is probably not an unhealthy thing. Although again, that’s going to be determined on a case by case basis by local communities and local school boards.’"
The legislation Obama supported also envisioned teaching kindergarteners about how to recognize "inappropriate touching."
Bill Burton, Obama’s national press secretary, responded on Tuesday to McCain’s ad with a sharply worded statement.
“It is shameful and downright perverse," said Burton, "for the McCain campaign to use a bill that was written to protect young children from sexual predators as a recycled and discredited political attack against a father of two young girls — a position that his friend Mitt Romney also holds. Last week, John McCain told Time magazine he couldn’t define what honor was. Now we know why."
Burton invoked Romney because the former Republican presidential candidate indicated to Planned Parenthood in 2002 that he supports the teaching of "responsible, age-appropriate, factually accurate health and sexuality education, including information about both abstinence and contraception, in public schools."
Prior to Romney’s tenure as governor, the Commonwealth of Massachusetts promulgated a set of K-12 goals for the teaching of sex education. Those standards remained in place during Romney’s time as governor and he did not challenge them.
Romney spokesman Eric Fehrnstrom nevertheless distinguished the position of the former governor from what Obama backed in Illinois by saying that Romney did not think that any element of sex education should be taught in kindergarten.
"The issue is whether children in kindergarten should be taught science-based sex education which is what Obama said he favors," Fehrnstrom told ABC News last year. "Gov. Romney does not support that. Let’s let our 5-year olds be 5-year olds."
Obama was targeted by McCain on sex ed after launching his own ad on education which attacked McCain for backing private school vouchers and for his one-time support for eliminating the Department of Education.
Watch it: HERE
McCain’s ad will air nationally on the Fox News Channel. It will also be seen in certain broadcast television markets in the states of Pennsylvania, Iowa, Missourri, Ohio, Minnesota, and Wisconsin.
Brian Rogers, a McCain spokesman, responded to Burton’s attack on the former POW’s honor by saying: “The Obama campaign has not disputed any of the facts in our ad, but if they want to question John McCain’s honor and record of service to this country, then that’s a debate we welcome.”
SCRIPT FOR McCAIN’s "EDUCATION" TV AD (:30):
ANNCR: Education Week says Obama "hasn’t made a significant mark on education".
That he’s "elusive" on accountability.
A "staunch defender of the existing public school monopoly".
Obama’s one accomplishment?
Legislation to teach "comprehensive sex education" to kindergartners.
Learning about sex before learning to read?
Barack Obama.
Wrong on education. Wrong for your family.
JOHN MCCAIN: I’m John McCain and I approved this message.
View the ad here.
ABC News’ Tahman Bradley contributed to this report.
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This is even lower than the Willie Horton ad of years ago. McCain has lost any semblance of integrity he ever had.
So the McCain campaign would prefer that we not arm our innocent children with the means to recognize inappropriate touching? Disgusting.
Posted by: DebM | September 9, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
Hey , don’t you know that sex ed and self defense are not the same thing? Teaching improper touching and what to do about it is self Defense. Teaching about human intercourse is sex Ed. Geese, where did you go to school ? Illinoise?
Posted by: Voted Hillary, Now Voteing McCain | September 9, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm
It gets worse. The Willie Horton ad was distorted and disgusting but had at its core some amount of truth. This ad is entirely false.
It gets worse. The Willie Horton ad was run by a 527. This ad is run directly by the campain.
They have no shame and no honor. They have decided that the votors are stupid.
Posted by: DaveC1 | September 9, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm
McCain has lost my respect. His campaign is dishonorable based on these cruel attacks the last month or so. The new NBC Poll, which is highly relaible has Obama up 47 to 46 with Mccains little bump. The Palin enthusiasim will recede soon and we will be back to the issues that Americans care about. Once this happens within the next week, the campaign for Mccain will be over. There is now way the American people will vote another damn republican in office this time. Enough is enough! I can’t wait to see McCain get embarassed at the debates against Obama. Obama will answer questions with substance and McCain is just cognitively slow.
Posted by: Duane | September 9, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm
As a Nurse Practititioner and Pediatric Nurse I just want to say that I’m outraged that Sen Obama is being attacked by the McCain camp on this. It’s been suggested in the literature that we talk to young children about predators in an age appropriate way.
My husband, a former Naval Academy Graduate, was going to vote McCain – not anymore. This is the type of swiftboat politics that he said he was against. Again, Maverick – Not anymore. Of course – should we be surprised. He stood by while the same thing was done to kerry – a fellow Vietnam vet.
Posted by: sandra wallace | September 9, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm
This add should be pulled and the McCain campaign should be ashamed. McCain is getting uglier with each day in his campaign style. While I expect some lies and embellishments in a campaign, McCain is taking this to new lows.
This is one Independent female who is NOT impressed with the McCain campaign.
(and I am not a Hillary fan)
Posted by: Sandy | September 9, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
McCain will say or do anything. Honorable man, dishonorable campaign. Shame on him.
Posted by: lynbrookbrown | September 9, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
Learning about sex before learning how to read was a great line and criticism. Go McCain-Palin!
Posted by: denn84116 | September 9, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
Teachers with guns? Obama has to be kidding. Did Obama pack a gun when he was a lecturer in Un. of Chicago?
Posted by: eviee | September 9, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
Sandra wallace- that’s short on your statement. McCain opposed to attacking Kerry on his war records. You don’t even get your fact straight there. Just because he’s a republican, doesn’t what Republican done is what he’s done too.
I came to the US from Asia at 7th grade and I didn’t know anything about sex. This kind of educatin that obama talks about lead to why our country talk publicly about sex. There’s not even a single show on TV doesn’t refer to sex, even kids’ show on Disney. Disgusting.
Posted by: hannah | September 9, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
Obama is right!
If Sarah Palin would have talked about sex life and thought her daughter to use condom or do not have sex, than perhaps bristol would not have been pregnant today!
Obama’s daughters won’t be in that situation!
Posted by: Otis | September 9, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
Sandra Wallace,
If your husband is going to change his vote because of this, he really needs to get a brain.
Then again, we all know your story is false. You’re probably a bitter old single maiden. LOL!!
Posted by: JA | September 9, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
It’s time for parents to stand up to mindless politicians, like Obama, who are more worried about pleasing the media than serving Americans, especially the most vulnerable, and lifting them up. It’s time for mothers of the world to stand up for our children and decency and say no to Obama’s Marxist dreams. Obama is wrong on sex ed and he is wrong for America. We need strength and common sense in the White House — we need McCain and Palin until Hillary can come back in 2012.
Posted by: Hillary and McCain-Palin Supporter | September 9, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
Utilizing lies, deceit and treachery, neither McCain or Palin appear suitable to serve the AMERICAN PEOPLE. McCain’s new ad is an EMBARRASSMENT to himself and the GOP! I know republicans who are repelled by it! If his advisers keep this up, insular McCain the Maverick will drive what’s left of his cattle herd over a cliff!
McShame McShame
Posted by: Libratine | September 9, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm
Or, you can use the proven failure of abstinence-only programs and end up with a pregnant teenage daughter and a shotgun wedding, like a certain Govenor from Alaska.
Posted by: justhesh | September 9, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm
…disgusting twist of reality. Too bad a legally binding oath can not be applied to these ads.
Posted by: WhereDoesItEnd | September 9, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
Obama has no experience to lead this country. Sarah at leat was a mayoe and now governer of a stae. She makes executive decisions and is well appreciated by thye state.
What Obama did for USA?
He is a good speaker, no doubt, and he is just like ordinary politicians who speaks something and do differently in practice. Its a pitty that he started worryining about a VP candidate and not the Presidential candidate.
THis is a big eye opener for the common people of this great country,
Posted by: shivaglal | September 9, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
McCain, Palin and Rove are all pigs, with or without lipstick..
Posted by: jen | September 9, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
Vote for LIARS you can believe in! MaCain/Palin. The future to nowhere!
Posted by: Jim | September 9, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
I wonder what happened to Michelle Obama? We need Michelle Obama now!
She was taking in Hillary so good during the primaries!
Come on Michelle Obama, get out there and campaign for us!
Posted by: Where is Michelle obama? | September 9, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
Teachers should not be telling Kindergarten kids where babies come from, even if they ask. The appropriate response would be “Ask your parents.” As a parent, if I did not want my child to be presented with the graphic facts before I deemed it appropriate, I would be VERY angry. The teacher is NOT the parent & needs to remember that.
Posted by: ellsbells930 | September 9, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm
I have to say, that ad is f*cking twisted. And so is this article. Why can’t you “fact check” this a little better? Framing this perverse attack against Obama as credible — is propaganda, not journalism.
Posted by: eric | September 9, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm
Sex Ed is Not The Same As Teaching about Predators. It’s In The Details Folks! Read What Is Printed!!! McCain Said Kindergarten is Too Young For SEX – ED. NOT TOO YOUNG FOR SELF DEFENSE IN KNOWLEDGE And DEED!!! No One Has The Right To Touch Your Body No matter How Old You Are – Not For Any Reason, sex Or Otherwise…..That Is What Is Apporiate For small Children !!! Obama makes wrong choices for his family and ours too! Vote McCain!!!!!
Posted by: Voteing McCain | September 9, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm
Why in the world would McSame think it would be wrong for 5 & 6 yr olds to know the correct anatomical name of their body parts? You sure are O L D McSame. And this from the party that supports teen marriage. What a joke!
Posted by: Lori | September 9, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm
Hey where is Michelle Obama?
I agree, she was taking hard on Hillary! Michelle Obama was one of the strongest campaigner for barrack. We want her back on the campaign trail , especially to connect with women!
Posted by: Paddt | September 9, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm
ABCs decision to write the headline in this way is another example of their battle to become the next FOX News.
Posted by: john | September 9, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
You’d expect Obama to be low class? Remember it was Obama that said Palin’s family was off limits to the media, despite the fact that the Republicans had a media release of the info.
It was McSame that was making ugly jokes about Chelsea Clinton while she was a teen in the White House. I’d call that classless.
Posted by: Lori | September 9, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
I’ll tell ya, there is nothing this slime machine won’t do.
Palin, even today, kept lying about her *bridge to nowhere* flip.
And now this???
This country is seriously ill, that people continue to support this crap.
Posted by: jon | September 9, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
I agree,
Michelle Obama is called for the campaign trail immediately!
Posted by: Helen | September 9, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
The viscious, negative, UN-CHRISTIAN things that are coming out of the McCain camp seem to have Karl Rove written all over them to me. Why do the Republicans insist on dragging this election into the mud? Oh yeah…they wouldn’t want us to see that they can’t compete on the actual issues that affect Americans on a daily basis! I think Jesus would be ashamed of many of the comments coming out of McCain/Palin and so many of their supporters.
Posted by: sarahpie | September 9, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
McCain/Palin will ride to victory in November. Obama’s sorry elitist leftist agenda is being exposed for what it is — an attack on the American family’s integrity and autonomy. As a father of a 3 and 6 year old, I am firmly of the belief that sex ed can wait. I was indoctrinated with graphic sex ed in the 4th grade in a great socialist left coast public school system — I am ashamed that I live in a society that thinks it is okay to rain down filth children on the public dime and call it “education”. Let’s try reading, writing and math and let sex not burden the minds of our children. Obama should be ashamed of himself for attempting to sacrifice common sense and common decency at the alter of vain and amoral “science”.
Posted by: TC | September 9, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
John McSame is a sleazy sleazy disgusting man. He has NO HONOR. I once respected that jerk. UNBELIEVABLE!
Posted by: Eraticus | September 9, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
When McCain was having his affairs was that more abstinence or did he use a condom? When he told his Chelsea joke was that showing his respect for women? Then there is the remark about his current wife …
Posted by: Nelly | September 9, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
Otis, How do you know that Gov. Palin did not tell her daughter about the facts of life and how to not get pregnant? Hasn’t your children just not obeyed the counsel you gave them? I’m sure they haven’t done everything you suggested!
I have 6 kids and I can tell you that they’ve been told alot of things and don’t always do it.
Posted by: Dave | September 9, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
It is not the school’s job to tell kids where babies come from. Come on, parents…teach your kids these things. Sex education needs to come from parents, not schools.
Posted by: dk | September 9, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
Why is OBAMA sinking low? One second he is abusing Sarah Palin as a Pig with lipstick & other count blasting McCain’s patrotism & no bills no record but preach sex education to kindergarteners. SIck for America.. Change OBAMA Change .. Give away your nomination to HIllary and run..
Posted by: George Goodman | September 9, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
Lori!
You’ve gotta be kidding me?
Obama is the one surfaced all the dirty information about Palin and her daughterthan sure he went on and siad he did not do it and families should be off limits!
And we believed it?
sure we are all so stupid!
Posted by: Sam | September 9, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
He called her a pig. The pig is his devil. He won’t eat ham for Easter. Don’t vote in the sleeper cell.
Posted by: MN nice | September 9, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
Voted Hillary, Now Voteing McCain:
Is there something wrong with age-appropriate sex-ed? Especially if you as a parent are given the option to opt-out your child?
*************
On a tangent, I do not understand the crowd who is both “pro-life” (anti-choice) and pro-abstinence only. Talk about setting kids up to fail.
Posted by: sigh | September 9, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
The Republicans totally took this out of context didn’t they? Sadly, the heading on this article will fuel the lies b/c most people don’t read beyond the heading. The true title SHOULD be “McCain Distorts Truth About Obama’s Sex Ed Plan in Schools”. I have a 5 year old and a baby. My 5 year old knows that the baby came out of momma and we have never talked about storks. We didn’t tell her about sex but we did tell her that when a man and woman love each other and get married they have a family sometimes. THAT is exactly the type of crazy sex ed Obama wants taught – whoppie. God forbid. But hey, instead we can be like Palin – who teaches abstinence and has a 17 year old pregnant daughter…and she herself had a baby 8 months after marrying Todd (or shall I say, First Dude).
Posted by: allie | September 9, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
Celebutante Sarah Palin = Paris Hilton + 20 years
Posted by: Ed from MA | September 9, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
So now ABC along with CNN stand alone in the pocket of McCain’s campaign. No other news organizations took the bait. It will bite ABC where it hurts. Palin’s “interview” on ABC will be a selection of softball questions that will not satisfy the American public.
We know that ABC made a deal with the McCain campaign out of desperation for ratings. Good luck on that, ABC
Posted by: JudiNV | September 9, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
Enough ABC you are turning into a quack news station, reporting on this as if you think Obama wanted 5 year olds to learn about how to have sex. When is our press going to live up to the great press of the past who new the huge responsiblility they were given in their part of this democracy. These cheep shots and your going over them is a testimony to the low level our press has sunk to. When are you going to do your job. This is why I am no longer watching ABC News or any TV news. I would rather watch the Comedy Channel.
Posted by: Cindy | September 9, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
I have to admit, I do not think that Obama should go after palin because he is running for a different type of politician!
But I totally agree, Michelle Obama should go out there and connect with women!
especially with pro-choice women!
Posted by: Tom | September 9, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
I agree with Obama- in this world our kids need to know a good touch from a bad touch. they need to be taught right from wrong. The way McCain is running this campaign is a downright shame and to believe that our country will stand for it is even worse. I pray we all wake up and examine the issues or lact of that are being presented by the canduidate. THis smearing from the McCain campaign is embrassing do these people realize how other countries are looking at us, I for one am not impressed with John McCains choice of VP and to me it shows a calculated move just to win the election– it certainly was not a choice that put Country first–She has not spoken on her own, she has only repeated speeches in public–will someone please tell McCain /this is not a game its our lives he’s playing with
Posted by: I Count | September 9, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
It might be useful to take an unemotional review of what the article says in getting to the root problem with what Obama is proposing… k-12 sex ed is the subject. He supported passage of this legislation at the State level in Illinois, and followed it with a stipulation that it would need to be implemented “on a case by case basis…” with local school boards establishing policy. THIS IS DANGEROUS! When you’ve got higher jurisdictions writing laws for lower municipalities- you grow government, lay the ground work for exponential (sorry for the big words…I’ll type slowly and loudly…) problems in not only interpreting what the law should be, but how to implement it.
You’d get one school district defining sex ed one way, and another school or district defining it in quite another. So much for standards in education. Sure, you can say that this is the case, state by state today— however, not in local neighborhoods. This is yet another example of Obama’s attempt to have a higher level of government medling in a lower one… And you want to elect this guy to run our country? Get real.
Posted by: NO-bama | September 9, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
and the McSame /Falin people had the nerve to complain about Sen Bidens statement earlier today on stem ceel research you have go to be kidding me like I said earlier GOP politics are do as I say not as I do we can trot out any lie, disproven statement, non factual fact there is but don’t you dare use the truth on us you can lie about us but we can’t be bothered by the truth either way .
Posted by: richardcranium1 | September 9, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
Stemcell not ceel
Posted by: richardcranium1 | September 9, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
Maybe if Palin’s daughter had taken Sex Ed she wouldn’t be KNOCKED UP at 17.
KINDA OBVIOUS STUFF IN 2008, HUH?
Posted by: Ed from MA | September 9, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
I am all for teaching age appropriate sex education but judging by the people on this board, maybe we should stick to teaching the basics in school…..like SPELLING!
Posted by: Kim | September 9, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
Wow, now all the trolls are here at Sellout ABC, now that Fox has become much more fair in its reporting. The trolls have found a new home.
Posted by: JudiNV | September 9, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
The polls are pretty much set in stone
as the campaigning comes to a close.
They are no help because there is a margin
of error with both candidates.
America has very few voters who will
swing at this time in the election process.
Those who do swing are either bipolar,
ill advised or just don’t give a damn
who gets in. Scary that the next president
will be decided by people with these traits.
What a country!
Posted by: spacerook1 | September 9, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
What’s worse, a slimy inaccurate election ad – OR a network that has no vetting process itself and/or conscience. Not Sure ABC News but your at the bottom of the heap for scuzz. Gotta love the US of A. Real good journalism guys. I think they call this Yellow Journalism at one point in US history.
Posted by: Gerry | September 9, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm
Well gee, if Sarah Palin’s kids had had adquate sex education information, maybe the daughter would not be pregnant, again. The Republicans fear sex so much they want to outlaw it for everyone except themselves. People like Larry Craig and Mark Foley and David Vitters etc. Republicans are hypocrites
Posted by: nick ames | September 9, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm
The McCain “dictatorship” shames America. If you let them dictate what you should think, you get what you deserve.
This is all serving to re-energize the Obama base. Most intelligent people cannot stomach the nazi-like intimidation by McCain’s creepy henchmen. It is frightening that some Americans will follow lockstep when McCain’s creeps TELL THEM WHAT TO THINK. BE SCARED. If you want to hand your kids over to the religious zealots, go ahead.
or, for just once in your lives, Repubs, try THINKING.
Posted by: jennie | September 9, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm
Teaching sex education to Kindergartners does not mean that you will tell them how to have sex. There are many ways to explain to a child about sex. I remember when I was younger, I was told that women get pregnant because they eat a lot and I believe it until it become clear in high school after an anatomy/sex eduaction class (I believe palin’s daughter should have learn that earlier).
The McCain Campaign is trying to distract the American public from the main issues. Very soon, they will criticize the other camp for blaming palin for not wearing pants like Hillary.
Posted by: pompidou | September 9, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
My,my. Now that the momentum has turned against him, watch the media turn on him. Fair weather friends, those media.
Posted by: garand911 | September 9, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
You conservatives are so freeking ignorant. It is IMPERATIVE that 5 year olds learn their body parts and when to say no to unwanted touch. That is age appropriate sex education for 5 year olds and what Obama is talking about!Sexual abuse is more common than physical abuse, affecting 1 in 3 girls and 1 in 4 boys before the age of 18. If we ignore the FACTS and retreat into our closed minded denial shell, kids will continue to be abused.
Posted by: Marc | September 9, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
Children should be taught what Improper Touching is. Is McSame afraid that his Republicans will go to prison more than they do now?
Posted by: txpatriot4us | September 9, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
The republicans are the party in power and he has been there the whole time.
Don’t vote for McCains Jedi mind trick of “change”.
Posted by: truth serum | September 9, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
Fox Fair who are you kidding fair and Unbalanced is more like it
Posted by: richardcranium1 | September 9, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
McCain lost his integrity? So why did Obama say you can put lipstick on a pig. Boy I hope people do not think he was referring to Palin’s remark about soccer mom’s. Because if they did, they would not find it as humorous as the audience did when he paused, waiting audience to make the connection and laugh riotiously before he delivered the punch line.
Posted by: Deborah from Oklahoma | September 9, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
No wonder McCain-Palin have no policies because they are spending so much of their time with these low down nasty untrue ads against Obama. I was an undecided voter but I have made up my mind to vote for Obama because I am tired of this divisive politics. McCain has lost my vote. I want some substance!!!!!!
Posted by: Cocomo | September 9, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
I suppose after chanting:”drill baby,drill…” the McCain campaign should have a new slogan: F**** baby, F*****…” since they oppose sex education
Posted by: piston | September 9, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm
I think the key word is age-appropiate. Curiosity and children don’t mix. Speculating with other children about “so and so’s Mom has a baby in her tummy” They should know something. No matter how cute the cabbage patch story is. It is stupid to tell a child that when they really want to know how and why she has a baby in her tummy. Kids worry and come to wrong guesses if left to figure it out these things on their own. Besides even little kids need to know appropiate and non-appropiate “things”.
Posted by: AnnD52 | September 9, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
http://sexoffenderissues.blogspot.com/
First, let me get this out. I am totally against ANY form of abuse to any human being. And I believe anyone who murders another human being should be in prison for the rest of their life (until they die). I do not believe in the death penalty for anyone. Also, I believe that once a person has been in and out of prison and has served their probation and parole, done everything required of them, and what was signed on the “contract” when they took the plea, none of this should be required of them, none of it. The state cannot tear up a contract like this, which they are basically doing, it’s unconstitutional. Many people, if they had known they would be faced with all this, they would have NOT taken a plea deal. And the courts are very aware of this and this is why they made it retroactive; thus violating ex-post facto laws! They should be allowed to get on with their life as if nothing happened. I’m not saying for it to be removed from their record, but, the crime should be removed from public view and background checks, they should not have any more restrictions, shaming, etc. If they commit another crime, then they face a lot more punishment, like everything else is treated.
When are we going to move away from being “TOUGH ON CRIME” and move to being “SMART ON CRIME?” If you locked every single sex offender up, at this moment, or killed every one of them, do you think the problem is over? No, more will follow.
I’ve heard many people say “If these laws protect one child, then they are worth it!” And at the same time, if millions are tortured, it’s ok. Offenders are losing their homes, jobs, families, and children and cannot find new jobs or homes due to the insanity of these laws. The families are also made into outcasts for associating with or being related to an ex-offender and their own children are harassed and bullied at schools due to a family member being an ex-offender.
I know these laws are a sensitive issue, but as all issues, they must be discussed and we must come up with a valid solution that will work. The laws, as they exist now, DO NOT WORK! People are always saying they cause unintended consequences. These laws have been on the books for years now, so nothing is unintended anymore. When are we going to set aside fear, hate, rage and anger and come up with a real solution? History has proven that these feelings NEVER get good laws passed but only create bad ones that punish and torture many people. These knee-jerk reactions to a slim number of high-profile crimes, like Adam Walsh and Jessica Lunsford, MUST STOP!
When an ex-offender is forced to move from his/her home, thus having to sell it, cannot find another home within the law due to the residency “buffer” zones, get fired from their jobs due to being on the registry, cannot find a new job due to being on the registry, their husband/wife lose their jobs due to a significant other being on the registry, their children lose their friends and are harassed and bullied in school due to a family member being on the registry, thus destroying the children’s lives, ex-offenders are forced into homelessness and to live under bridges, harassed by police, neighbors and probation/parole officers, have to wear “I’m a sex offender T-shirt” or have a neon green license plate on ALL their cars, have “sex offender” on their drivers license and forced to renew their licenses every year, forced from shelters during tornadoes or hurricanes, cannot give blood at some places due to being discriminated against for being on the sex offender registry, denied housing due to being on the registry, signs placed in their yards inviting harassment and ridicule from the neighbors, forced to move when the neighbors start picketing outside the ex-offenders home, the list is endless.
I THINK THIS IS CRUEL AND UNUSUAL PUNISHMENT, BEYOND THE EXTREME!
Posted by: SexOffenderIssues | September 9, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
This is absolutely so base, so profane and extreme that it brings enormous shame on McCain. That he would even suggest so patently untrue distortion is further proof that, rather than an agent of change, he has fully and completely adopted the disgusting politics of the Bush Regime.
What McClain claims is a bold-faced lie. Is he suggesting that any discussion of sex education in the schools should be met with extremist rhetoric? That’s no change, that’s how republicans have been dividing America for 30 years. It has too stop. What happened to McCain 2000? When The Bushies claimed (falsely) that he fathered a mixed race child in order to smear him in the primaries, what was the lesson he learned?
Shame on John McCain!
Posted by: thebob.bob | September 9, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
Do you really believe the her pregnant daughter has not had any sex education? At 17 years old her parents have not had dialogue about this? I would have a hard time believing that to be true. Striving for absitence is not the same as not knowing what sex is. I also don’t see how that automatically means that Sarah Palin can’t be Vice President. Am I the only one failing to see how this is relevant? Aren’t there bigger issues?
Posted by: dk | September 9, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
“Lipstick on a pig” is a well known expression and doesnt’ mean that the person is a pig. Everyone knows that and people are just jumping on Obama because they can make an issue about it.
Saying “Chelsea clinton is ugly” like McCain did is not just a well known expression.
Posted by: Pig | September 9, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
I’m sorry but this is hilarious! McCain is now beating Obama in just about every poll and you have these desperate Obama supporters saying what a bad choice she was, too funny. You can see the nervousness overtake them, you see it in the desperate name calling of their childish posts, the more you attack more their numbers go up. What a delicious twist this turned out to be, don’t you think?
Posted by: jill | September 9, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
you are dead on marc it is a shame the repervicans see it through their sick eyes and minds
Posted by: richardcranium1 | September 9, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
The problem is that McCain’s slimey ad will appeal tremendously to his base. Most sensible people now those ignoramuses can’t think critically and are about as bright as a box of rifle ammunition. Did you see all that yee hawing and woo hooing at the RNC? Gosh I bet if they had rifles and pistols in the air they would’ve shot them in the air in celebration of Palin’s and McCain’s speech LOL. They will see this ad and immediately identify self-righteously with it. The sad thing is McCain’s campaign is smarter than their base and knows it, so they send out trash like this with the knowledge that they are manipulating their base and exploiting values which they themselves probably don’t even hold.
Posted by: Manipulators | September 9, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
Hey, Hillary and McCain-Palin Supporter,
if you haven’t heard the latest. Hillary
supports Obama! Either you are confused,
ill informed or just another mole. If
Hillary were on the ticket, this is exactly
what she would be using in her agenda,
so please enlighten us with your rational.
Posted by: spacerook1 | September 9, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
Dave, you are correct. Kids, like adults, have minds of their own. The way the media tried to destroy Governor Palin for the actions of her teenage daughter is atrocious. Why did they cover up John Edwards’ affair for so long but blast Sarah Palin on this? Media bias is alive and well. It’s nice that they pick up on Obama’s foibles and misjudgments on occasion.
I’m yet to hear of anything Gov. Palin has done that is offensive. Gov. Palin has been slandered and beaten over the head continually because she dares to take on the “One”. I’m still waiting to hear of something she has done that rivals Obama’s legion of personal judgment errors and actions contrary to the national interest of the United States.
Posted by: TC | September 9, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
Agreed. This is pretty stupid ABC. Stopped watching after the democratic primary “debates”, in which Gibson and Stephanopoulos questioned Obama’s “patriotism”, whether or not he “loves America”, and about the “flag pins” for what? Half an hour? Please. You’re like FoxNews-Lite.
Posted by: Enough | September 9, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm
As a mom, I would not want their school to teach them about sex and sex practices in kindergarten or grade school. Nor would I want them to be taught that homosexuals activities are normal. Teaching them in the higher grades would be ok.
I see Obama with the attitude that anything goes and is ok in human behavior for adults. How sad, even indecent.
Posted by: Mai | September 9, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
John McCain is Mr. Magoo.
He is gooey pathetic little weenie.
Posted by: euro.guy | September 9, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm
I don’t know about you, but I had Sex Ed in High School, and avoided knocking up my girlfriend as a result.
But then again, maybe Sarah Palin’s daughter is as dumb as her mom – education just don’t take with some folk.
She can’t even manage her own house – I should let her run my country?
COUNTRY FIRST!! OBAMA/BIDEN 08!!!
Posted by: Ed from MA | September 9, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm
space cadet, I don’t care who Hillary is supporting. Although I donated to, and volunteered for, her campaign, I don’t have to blindly follow her. Obama lacks something that Hillary and McCain/Palin have in common — common sense. I look for leaders who will protect America, stand up for our families and who are in touch with reality. Obama fails on all three counts.
BTW, just because I support Hillary does not mean that I support everything she stands for or does. I don’t believe in everything McCain and Palin say or do either. Obama still sounds and acts like an empty suit to me.
Posted by: Hillary and McCain-Palin Supporter | September 9, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm
republican citizens:
Xerox, IBM, Exxon—all major corporations in the world. If you owned stock and you got a notice that this company would now be run by
1. a sickly 72-year man and
2. a former pageant queen with 18 months experience,
would you be thrilled? Would you defend them to the end? Would you be proud that they are handling your retirement, your security, your family’s well-being?
Didn’t think so. So why entrust your country and your family’s future to those two?
Are our companies more important than our oountry?
Posted by: CARL | September 9, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm
The democratic response to the McCain ad should be what was earlier suggested. The first scene would show a mother filling her young daughter’s head with superstitious nonsense such as Intelligent Design and Abstinence Only Sex education. Then the next scene would be the same young girl 9 months latter pregnant at a shot gun wedding. Then the ad would cut to the announcer asking? Do you want your daughter brought up by the McCain/Palin ticket. Vote for common sense and science in your classrooms. Vote Obama/Biden.
Posted by: ugot2bfree | September 9, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
Mr. McCain’s pick of Sarah Palin offended me.
She is a fake, a phony and a liar, and the moment he picked her, he lost my vote. As a Republican mother in Ohio, I was appalled. He didn’t want a qualified candidate. If he did, he could have picked someone like Olympia Snowe. He wanted a Barbie Doll, a creepy political trophy wife, and frankly he nauseated me.
He looks like a dirty old man.
Posted by: sylvie2566 | September 9, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
With the McCain-Bush economic policy, I think we are heading towards being the first third-world-superpower (Hmmm… maybe russia will get there before us.).
Its the economy, stupid. And if you believe we can keep spending trillions of dollars and lowering taxes (particularly on the rich) and the dollar won’t collapse, you must be smoking something.
Just so you know, your current debt is 30,000$ per person. Oh, and there are many people in the states (children, poor people) who won’t be able to pay any of this, so your share is probably more like 100,000$. You are gonna pay one way or the other. Either you do it now… or the invisible hand of the free market catches up with you later.
When currency collapses countries fall..
Vote obama.
Posted by: EconProf | September 9, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
So, is the McCain campaign pro-pedophiles now?
What kind of pervert suggests that we shouldn’t teach our kids good common sense measures to stay safe? McCain’s ad may very well be the most disgusting ad ever aired in a general election. it is truly sick.
Posted by: ElodieStClair | September 9, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
Don’t you get it?
Lipstick on a pig = Lipstick on a Republican
Because:
REPUBLICAN = PIG
Now do you get it?
COUNTRY FIRST!! OBAMA/BIDEN 08!!!
Posted by: Ed from MA | September 9, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm
My daughter was part of this so called sex ed in kindergarten this year in Florida and it was shameful!! They had a class of 5 year olds repeating the words “sexual discrimination”. Why in the world does a 5 year old need to know this? They don’t! I still don’t know who I am going to vote for in November but this does not make me want to vote Obama.
Posted by: Ginny | September 9, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm
Check out south park on this subject — the sexual harrassment panda rules.
Posted by: SexualHarrassmentPanda | September 9, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm
Wow, How Low can they go? Those republicans have hit bottom. As a sexual abuse survivor I can say first hand that if I would have been able to talk about what was happening to me as a small child the abuse would have been stopped. I did not know that it was wrong, only that it mad me feel scared, dirty, guilty, and sad. I was 6 when it started. If only someone had taught me that it was bad and that it was okay to tell…
Posted by: Kim | September 9, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm
McPig is a ONE-TRICK PHONY.
Palin is the lipstick on an OLD PIG.
COUNTRY FIRST!! OBAMA/BIDEN 08!!!
Posted by: Ed from MA | September 9, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm
CARL, your ageist and sexist remarks are laughable and fit for the stone age.
I would entrust my family, my country and my company to McCain or Palin before I entrust them to Obama or Biden. BTW, Last time I checked, Palin is the only one who actually runs real businesses — bad example. Try again.
Posted by: TC | September 9, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm
TC you are N U T S nuts nuts nuts one thing AIP , “the US is doing Gods work in Iraq”, just asking a Librarian if books could be banned , Global warming isn’t happening , polar bears of the endangered list why so she can hunt them ? the whole I was against the bridge to nowhere lie , I fight for taxpayers while asking for and getting 27 MILLION dollars in earmarks for a town of 8,000 I’m a maverick just like john when neither is the list is so long its not the imaginary stuff like Corsihas in his book its real
Posted by: richardcranium1 | September 9, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
My daughter was part of this so called sex ed in kindergarten this year in Florida and it was shameful!! They had a class of 5 year olds repeating the words “sexual discrimination”. Why in the world does a 5 year old need to know this? They don’t! I still don’t know who I am going to vote for in November but this does not make me want to vote Obama.
Posted by: Ginny | September 9, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
Should anyone be surprised that McCain would stoop this low? Rove is standing right behind him.We’ve got to keep hitting right back on these sleaze ads. Only 8 weeks to go and it won’t get any better.It’s our job now to knock down every smear, every lie and every inuendo.In their face make them prove everything they say. God all mighty we surely can’t let this happen again. Wake UP AMERICA.
Posted by: linda n carolina | September 9, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
One has to question anyone advocating misinformation or disinformation, regardless of the topic or aspects.
Obviously kindergarteners are smart and ask questions. I can imagine the politically correct Republican response as “Kids just happen” or “From the Stork” or some drawn out inappropriate religious concept based on “Intelligent Design”.
A correct answer, sensitive to the age and comprehension of the child is the correct approach. After all, we are talking about educators here, not Republican politicians when it comes answering a child’s question.
To suggest that telling the truth about where a child truly comes from, in comprehensive term, is somehow inappropriate also suggests that question a child may make about the topic is inappropriate, tantamount to censorship at the very minimum and and obfuscation of truth or down right lying to the child at the other end.
Obviously with so many philandering and adulterous politicians, might Republicans ban the very notion of reproductive science so as to keep us all in the dark about their “closed door” affairs, lest they appear as inappropriate or less than Republican in their personal standards relating to Republican dogma and “family values”.
Posted by: JOREL | September 9, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
Your daughter may have had a stupid kindergarten teacher who has their head up their rear. But this is not the norm. I had my kid in a kindergarten where they treated discrimination very nicely — they didn’t make it stupid, they just emphasized that you shouldn’t treat other people different because they are different. This included different color, different sex, different language. Etc. It was actually a pretty nice lesson for the kids.
Posted by: StupidTeachers | September 9, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
What’s wrong with you people on this board, all yall do is fuss about silly stuff. Stick to the real problems at hand, bunch of lies each and every day. Check the facts, no mim wage increase, no equal pay for women, no control over a woman’s body, no social security, no decent health care, no help on college fees, and no stem cell research. All you get is a crazy women who believe God started the war. Give me a break, you guys need to grow up!
Posted by: Susan | September 9, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
Here is the text of Illinois SB99 that is cited in the ad. It’s from the Illinois Legislature, not a campaign or blog. Read it for yourself before you ignorantly believe what you hear in a paid political ad. Democracy depends on an educated citizenry. That’s us.
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/fulltext.asp?DocName=&SessionId=3&GA=93&DocTypeId=SB&DocNum=99&GAID=3&LegID=734&SpecSess=&Session=
Posted by: Jenni | September 9, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
Ginny were in Fl did that go on I am well lets just say I know fl education and your LYING !!!!!
Posted by: richardcranium1 | September 9, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
I will tell my children where babies come from when I feel they are ready to hear it. Any teacher that feels its their place to “enlighten” my 5-year-old has really stepped over the line. I am the parent and I will take responsibility for those discussions!
And by the way, as a parent of a 3-year-old girl, we’re already have the “inappropriate” touching dicussions.
I have to agree with Romney’s spokeperson: Let’s let 5 year olds be 5 year olds. Please!
Posted by: Jenn | September 9, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
Maybe if Bristol Palin had learned sex ed in Kindergarten she wouldn’t be a teenage mom now. Sarah Palin needs to STFU and examine her own failings as a parent!
Posted by: andrew k | September 9, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm
Sarah Palin is a lying scumbag. She is a pile of crap.
Posted by: manolo | September 9, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
John McCain, the Hero. He never would have set foot in Vietnam if he wasn’t shot down. Tortured? Yes, that is sad and horrible. But, generally the military does not look at p.o.w.’s as heros. The heros are dead. He should come out and say ” i’m no hero. Iwas a p.o.w. He doesn’t know what war is like. He bombed people from 30,000 ft. And he sang.
Posted by: doug | September 9, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
Hey Jenn, Did any one say that they would be teaching children where babies come from?? Has anybody researched the bill in question???? It was going to be age appropriate. The bill was about protecting kids from sexual abuse and pedophiles. Not about having sex. Jeez.
Posted by: kim | September 9, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
Once again, drivel from 99% of posters who show just as much disregard for any form of truth or logic as the politicians they claim to be shocked by. You get what you deserve, and boy, are we in for it.
Posted by: gottabesomeonebetter | September 9, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
he Republican’s Dept. of Homeland Security and No Child Left Behind Act, combined with the perpetual wars on drugs, sex and now Islamic terror have increased the size and power of the federal government more that Obama could ever achieve, even if he wanted to. These lies and misconceptions have to stop, because they fly in the face of reality. This mass movement type propaganda is exactly how the Nazi’s got the German people to buy into the Third Reich. Centuries of liberal thought have led to the conclusion that the role of national gov’t needs to be limited to strict constitutional limits – national defense, interstate commerce, and promoting the common good. Proper Health Care should not a consumer item that you can choose to buy with your disposable income. The advances in modern medicine belong to those who provided the efforts of the past 50 years in science and medicine – the American people. Modern health care is as fundamentally a public resource as our food and water supply.
Posted by: Bob | September 9, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
I saw this posted earlier and thought enough of it to copy it down and it I thought needed repeating so here it is Since when did Jesus become an intolerant Gun loving Red-neck.
The religious right has hijacked and twisted Christianity into mean spirited, hateful brand of Fundamentalist religion to the point where it is no longer a positive loving message.
It is no different than what the fringe group of the Taliban had done to the Muslim faith.
If Jesus were alive today these same religious zealots would label him a
Community organizing socialist hippy freak… Remember folks Jesus was the ultimate Community Organizer
and Pontius Pilot was a Governor. Obama-Biden ‘08 I wish I wrote it but I didn’t I just reposted it.
Posted by: richardcranium1 | September 9, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
You know, we have seen many politicians like Obama. He is just like them. Why is he saying he is different? He is no different from others. He has no experience and its just very beasy to say, I will do this, that etc. What does he know about nuclear energy? What is he going to utalise nuclear energy?
You can tlak about alchmey. Is it a reality? You cannot lead a country by just hope!!!! Talk about reality. Why did Obama not choose Hilary?
You need to think about this. He is just a mail chauvinist. Be open minded.
Posted by: shivaglal | September 9, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
In the book “Protecting The Gift” the security expert that wrote it tells us that statistically 1 in 4 girls and 1 in 6 boys under the age of 8 will be molested and those #s are growing. That’s real and frightening!!! The plan that Obama promoted that is lumped under the title “sex education” deals with appropriate touch and molestation prevention only at that age. Despite my reading books by experts like this, i’m not a counselor, and I’m no expert on how to teach my kids about this real and relatively complicated issue. I welcome assistance from educational experts in keeping my babies safe. This ad, like most of Mccain’s recent ads crosses the line of self serving and just flat out lying to the American people. He would rather win an election than tell the truth. Predator prevention is commonly referred to as a category of sex education. And they know it.
Posted by: mother of a 2 and 6 yr. old | September 9, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
A Senile Grandpa with Bird head Beauty queen.
What a JOke!
Posted by: zen | September 9, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
Ted Arthur Haggard (June 27, 1956) is a former American evangelical preacher. Known as Pastor Ted
Well gee, if Sarah Palin’s kids had had adquate sex education information, maybe the daughter would not be pregnant, again. The Republicans fear sex so much they want to outlaw it for everyone except themselves. People like Larry Craig and Mark Foley and David Vitters etc. Republicans are hypocrites
Posted by: nick ames
***************************
Hey Nick, you forgot one of the greatest
ASSets to the party – Pastor Ted Haggard,
former American evangelical preacher,
who was one of their leading guiding forces
for the ministry (or should we say farces)
Posted by: spacerook1 | September 9, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
If America is dumb enough to elect a pair of liars like McCain and Palin, then America no longer deserves to govern itself or lead the rest of the world. We Europeans are watching this election very closely. The era of American world dominance may be coming to an end closer than you think. Choose wisely, America. The world’s eyes are on you.
Posted by: foreign observer | September 9, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
TC—you are indeed a fool. Let two ignorant fools squander your family’s future.
Palin has hidden from any question and you do not have a clue about her because her party is afraid to let her do anything but read a teleprompter. It is bizarre that anyone with any intelligence would trust a shallow frightened belligerent bunch of fools for 4 more years. You are brainwashed in to believing superficial lies, since there have been no issues discussions from the Mccain hatemongers.
Posted by: CARL | September 9, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
At this point, I just think a constitutional amendment needs to be passed outlawing the Republican Party. This nation has serious issues to address – and frankly, these kinds of slimy attacks are like the 2000 election, and we ALL know what happened to the country after that.
If the GOP is not interested in serving the American people, they need to disband. This kind of ridiculous level of discourse indicates that at least one party is only interested in ego-driven power – at any cost of ethics and integrity. I cannot think of anything less patriotic than that crap.
This nation has SERIOUS issues – and any campaign which will engage in this kind of lowlife discourse has no business holding any public office in the country.
Posted by: kevinbgoode | September 9, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
To richardcramium1:
My daughter is in a St. John’s county school and it did happen. I was homeroom mom and was present and immediately removed my daughter from the room. Unfortunately other parents were not there and didn’t have that option.
Posted by: Ginny | September 9, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
So does this mean that McCain and Palin SUPPORT child molestation? Wouldn’t surprise me, coming from the party of Larry Craig and Mark Foley.
Posted by: lulubet | September 9, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
McCain would stoop this low [with] Rove standing right behind him… we surely can’t let this happen again.
Posted by: linda n carolina | Sep 9, 2008 10:59:55 PM
_______________________________________
YUCK!
That just scarred my mind’s eye!
That situation just described by linda in carolina speaks volumes about the true ulterior motives of the maligned sexual perverts involved here.
I would NEVER leave my child unattended for one minute anywhere near Karl Rove or John McCain.
What a bunch of creeps! I dare say that I had no idea of the horrendous implications of their comments towards children and sex.
TO SHAME YOU SEXUAL PREDATORS, TO SHAME!!!
KEEP YOUR FILTHY, DISGUSTING MINDS AND HANDS OFF OUR CHILDREN YOU REPUBLICAN MOLESTING SCUM!!! MAY YOU ALL ROT IN HELL!
Posted by: MOTHER OF 3 | September 9, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
McCain hasn’t had any integrity since the day he sold his soul to Bush/Cheney in 2004. Besides, this is the man who cheated on his first wife and dumped her for a younger model. He’s all about himself.
Posted by: Cathi | September 9, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
* Republican legislator Robert A. McKee pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography.
* Republican legislator Scott Muschany was charged with molesting a 14-year old girl.
* Republican chief of staff Eric Feltner pleaded guilty to showing pornography to a 13-year old girl.
* Republican presidential campaign official Matthew Joseph Elliott was convicted of sexual exploitation of a child.
* Republican Party Chairman Donald Fleischman was charged with two counts of child enticement, two counts of contributing to the delinquency of a child and a single charge of exposing himself to a child.
* Republican prosecutor John David Roy Atchison was arrested for soliciting sex from a 5-year old girl, then killed himself three weeks later. At the time of his arrest, Atchison was an “assistant U.S. attorney” appointed by President Bush’s attorney general.
* Republican city councilman John Bryan killed himself after police began investigating allegations that he had molested three girls, including two of his adopted daughters, ages 12 and 15.
* Republican legislator Ted Klaudt was charged with raping girls under the age of 16.
*Republican city councilman Joseph Monteleone Jr. was found guilty of fondling underage girls.
* Republican congressional aide Jeffrey Nielsen was arrested for having sex with a 14-year old boy.
* Republican County Commissioner Patrick Lee McGuire surrendered to police after allegedly molesting girls between the ages of 8 and 13.
* Republican prosecutor Larry Corrigan was arrested for soliciting sex from 13-year old girls.
* Republican Mayor Jeffrey Kyle Randall was sentenced to 275 days in jail for molesting two boys — ages ten and 12 — during a six-year period.
* Republican County Board Candidate Brent Schepp was charged with molesting a 14-year old girl and killed himself three days later.
* Republican Congressman Mark Foley abruptly resigned from Congress after “sexually explicit” emails surfaced showing him flirting with a 16-year old boy.
* Republican executive Randall Casseday of the conservative Washington Times newspaper pleaded guilty to soliciting sex from a 13-year old girl on the internet.
* Republican chairman of the Oregon Christian Coalition Lou Beres confessed to molesting a 13-year old girl.
* Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd pleaded guilty to charges of soliciting sex from an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.
* Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
* Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy.
* Republican petition drive manager Tom Randall pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 14, one of them the daughter of an associate in the petition business.
* Republican County Chairman Armando Tebano pleaded guilty to fondling a 14-year-old girl.
* Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins pleaded guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.
* Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker is a convicted child molester.
* Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
* Republican Mayor Tom Adams was arrested for distributing child pornography over the internet.
* Republican Mayor John Gosek was arrested on charges of soliciting sex from two 15-year old girls.
* Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
* Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
* Republican Committeeman John R. Curtin was convicted of molesting an underage teenage boy and sentenced to serve six to 18 months in prison.
* Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.
* Republican zoning supervisor, Boy Scout leader and Lutheran church president Dennis L. Rader pleaded guilty to performing a sexual act on an 11-year old girl he murdered.
* Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.
* Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.
* Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
* Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.
* Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
* Republican advertising consultant Carey Lee Cramer was sentenced to six years in prison for molesting two 8-year old girls, one of whom appeared in an anti-Gore television commercial.
* Republican fundraiser Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
* Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
* Republican Congressman Donald “Buz” Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
* Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.
* Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.
* Republican campaign chairman Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child and was arrested again five years later on the same charge.
* Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.
* Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
* Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer.
* Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
* Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.
* Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. “Republican Marty”), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.
* Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.
* Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.
* Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced prison after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
* Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.
* Republican anti-gay activist Earl “Butch” Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.
* Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
* Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.
* Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
* Republican legislator Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).
* Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was found guilty of molesting a 15-year old girl.
* Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.
* Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.
* Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.
* Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.
* Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.
* Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.
* Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.
* Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.
* Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.
* Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a “good military man” and “church goer,” was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.
* Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.
* Republican campaign worker, police officer and self-proclaimed reverend Steve Aiken was convicted of having sex with two underage girls.
* Republican director of the “Young Republican Federation” Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.
* Republican president of the New York City Housing Development Corp. Russell Harding pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer.
* Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was found guilty of raping a 15-year old girl. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.
* Republican Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld authorized the rape of children in Iraqi prisons in order to humiliate their parents into providing information about the anti-American insurgency. See excerpt of one prisoner’s report here and his full report here.
http://www.armchairsubversive.org/
Posted by: Our Children Need Protection Against GOP Pedophiles! | September 9, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
If Americans elect McCain, the rest of the world will be forced to intervene. Regime change isn’t just for Iraqis.
Posted by: foreign observer | September 9, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
What in the world is “science-based” sex education? I take it what B-Obama means by that is “morality-free” sex education? Yeah, that’s great stuff for human beings – especially little children.
Posted by: A Difference | September 9, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
This was a bill to protect young children from falling victim to child molestation.
My gawd… come on repugs. Interesting how abc worded this headline. Biased reporting and talking points taken from McSame camp. McSame said he was going to run an honorable campaign and it has been anything but..
Posted by: Anne | September 9, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
Not sure why ABC is running this story, and especially not like this. It sounds like Obama was trying to provide kids with the tools they need to protect themselves. So why attack him for it? I suppose you can expect it from the McCain campaign, because they’re fighting an election. But why does ABC have to pick up the story, especially in a way that suggests Obama really did something offensive.
Posted by: Robin | September 9, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm
Our eyes are on you America – if the Republicans steal another election, the rest of the world will intervene to liberate the American people.
Posted by: foreign observer | September 9, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm
And McCain’s response to being called on his lack of honor and honesty in deliberately trying to mislead and divide neighbor against neighbor on this important issue…. “I’m a POW…let’s talk about honor” Sad. sad. sad. That’s frankly an insult to all the veterans and POWs I know….to invoke this sacrific and service of millions of veteran and use it as an excuse for his daily Dishonor is a disgrace. Just STOP LYING, John. Really put America first for the first time this year and Stop lying.
Posted by: mother of a 2 and 6 yr. old | September 9, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm
McCain is scum. He will do anything to win…even placing our country in jeopardy by putting someone as inexperienced as Palin to be second in command. McCain doesn’t care about the country; he ONLY cares about winning! I hope he is defeated in November.
Posted by: Danny | September 9, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm
A Difference – so you object to teaching kids how to defend themselves from Child Molesters? Does that mean you are pro-child molester? Sicko.
Posted by: Fed Up | September 9, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
McCain has no honor left. If he wins this election, he will have won it on lies and slander – and he will have tarnished his reputation among decent Americans forever.
Posted by: honest amy | September 9, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
You Far-left Moonbats are a pathetic bunch. Sex education in Kindergarden????
No wonder the US ranks behind most of the industrial world in Math & Science.
Social issues belong in the home not in the schools and Kindergarden age….is way to young.
McCain is right on with this issue.
Posted by: gtessex | September 9, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm
Its just foolish
Posted by: shivaglal | September 9, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm
I pray to God that McCain loses or dies before election day. He is a shameless liar and has disgraced his record as a hero again and again in this campaign. He is a deeply dishonest man and Palin is even worse and America cannot afford any more Republican liars who disregard the will of the people.
Posted by: Indpendent Voter | September 9, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm
OMG that list of GOP sex offenses sickening.
Posted by: Pam | September 9, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm
OTIS, Yeah, great; if Bristol Palin had learned how to put on a condom in kindergarten she wouldn’t be pregnant today. We all know it’s not all this telling teens to have sex! have sex! have sex! It’s really OK to just “DO IT” that’s responsible for illicit pregnancies, it’s these cursed abstinence programs that tell them to wait until marriage!
Posted by: Difference | September 9, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
gtessex – read the story, moonbat. It’s not “sex ed” in kindergarten – it’s teaching kids how to defend themselves from child molesters. McCain is misrepresnting Obama’s position – AGAIN. Or maybe you’re pro-child molestation? You sick wierdo.
Posted by: Indpendent Voter | September 9, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
He’s back….Rove that is. Remember the day when McCain said he’s going to run an above board campaign? Well, looks like getting elected is more important than honor and dignity. He’s got Rove on the team, he’s got Schmidt, he’s got the attack pit bull Palin doing his dirty work and he’s taking the heat off of him with all the attention on her. Let’s forget about her…she’s nothing in this campaign. Just lipstick on an ugly, lying mouth. Let’s put the spotlight back on McCain and his policies or lack thereof. He’s who we’ll have to beat. It should be easy…stay focused!
Posted by: NULLANDVOID | September 9, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm
The first video link in this story is incorrect. It does not show the McCain Ad.
Posted by: bill | September 9, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm
Difference – how long have you supported Child Molestation?
Posted by: kimbers | September 9, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm
KEEP YOUR GODDAMM HANDS AND MINDS OFF OUR CHILDREN YOU FCUKING PIG SH!T MTOHERFCUKERS!
THIS HAS GONE TOO FAR.
I HOPE THE DEER HUNTERS FIND YOU NOW!
Posted by: MAD AS HELL | September 9, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
shivaglal, Giving your stance, I know
you are upset with what is happening,
though Hillary has great ideas that can
finally go through. For that last 8 years
she has been pushing through her plans
only to be squashed by the present
administration.
If she were to be VP, she would not have
any of her proposals go through because
she is only there to break a tie vote.
Obama needs her in the Senate to get the
country back on track.
Posted by: spacerook1 | September 9, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
Obama’s comments were a “pun” (dual meaning) for you slow people out there. It had reference to Palin and a pig as well.
Posted by: william | September 9, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
If American Republicans cannot run an honest election campaign, they will not be allowed to continue in power by the rest of the world. There will be an intervention. Americans may not be able to govern themselves any longer, and the rest of the civilized world cannot afford to sit by idly and let another incompetent Republican administration stand in the way of solving global problems. Make the right choice, America.
Posted by: foreign observer | September 9, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm
MAD AS HELL – are you talking about the child molesters that Obama actually wanted kids to learn to defend themselves from?
Posted by: kimbers | September 9, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm
Independent voter. I read the damn story idiot. What do you think PARENTS are for?
As for your last remark. I’ll assume your just another Far-left Dolt that thinks government is responsible for running our lives from cradle to grave. Keep it coming Loony!
Posted by: gtessex | September 9, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
You insisted that Hillary’s Supporters would shift over to Obama after they were done pouting… It is that type of sexist attitude in the media that is bringing us over to McCain/Palin. We are women over 40 who understand Sales & Marketing – many of us are in that field ourselves & we are not going to buy the Pepsi like Campaign that won Barack the Nomination. “We’re the Ones We’ve Been Waiting For” – you expected us to be stupid enough to buy that crap. We’re intelligent – we see through both the Covert attacks from the Obama Campaign just as easily as the Overt ones from all the rest. We do our homework – we read everything we can get our hands or eyes on and we read between the lines. The media has manipulated the election process from the beginning and we will not be told who to vote for. Warning: The more you smear Sarah Palin, the more determined we will be out there garnering votes for the McCain/Palin ticket. Believe it – Report it – It’s True!
Posted by: Juli An | September 9, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
This is total crap. Nobody is teaching kids sex ed in kindergarten – they’re teaching kids to be aware of possible child molesters and how to avoid them. This is the most dishonest smear that McCain has used yet. Totally disgusting and wrong! Do you have no shame, Mr. McCain?
Posted by: louis gonzaga | September 9, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm
Social issues belong in the home not in the schools and Kindergarden age….is way to young.
McCain is right on with this issue.
Posted by: gtessex |
************************
Obviously, Palins daughter, missed
that home-sex education class.
Posted by: spacerook1 | September 9, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm
KIMBERS,
YES, AND THOSE THAT WOULD LEGISLATE TO OBSCURE THEM IN PSEUDO FAMILY VALUES AND LAWS
Posted by: MAD AS HELL | September 9, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm
gtessex:
I’m not sure what math and science have to do with sex, but many countries in Europe (who are ahead of us in math and science, but behind us in teen pregnancy) begin age-appropriate sex education very young.
And as long as social issues belong in the home, lets keep creationism there too. You can call it intelligent design, but “a pig in lipstick…”
Posted by: Enough | September 9, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm
I don’t want a teacher teaching my children sex education at the age of 4 or 5. The parents teach their kids. Not the government. The government just mess thing up and don’t teach Christian values, just their’s.
Posted by: Waggdogg | September 9, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
Obama will be regulated to a historic footnote, he is finised, the day he picked Joe Bidon.
Posted by: charley | September 9, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
gtessex,
AND YOU ARE UNCLE CHESTER THE MOLESTER DEFENDING THEM!
Posted by: MAD AS HELL | September 9, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm
Juli An – so you’re going to fall for Palin’s crap instead? Why would anybody who was smart enough to support Hillary be dumb enough to vote for Palin – who opposes everything Hillary has ever stood for – just because she wears a skirt? How stupid do you think we are? Sorry but you’re full of crap. I call B S on you. You’re not a Hillary voter and you never were. Stop lying.
Posted by: kimbers | September 9, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm
This should energize every Dem out there to make sure McCain never gets elected.Donate to Obama. This has got to stop.This is what we’re fighting for isn’t it. Take our country back. How many times do we have to get kicked in the head to see who’s doing it.Donate..volunteer your time to register voters…this is too serious to sit back and let it happen again.
Posted by: linda n carolina | September 9, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm
Disgusting. To use an effort to protect children used in this perverse manner.
This is an embarrassment to the political process.
This reminds me a lot of the slander from the Bush campaigns – more of the same.
Posted by: frank | September 9, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm
Waggdogg – actually, they’re weren’t teaching kids about sex, they were teaching them how to defend themselves against child molesters. McCain lied.
Posted by: candomble | September 9, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm
The bill was about protecting kids from sexual abuse and pedophiles. Not about having sex. Jeez. Here’s the bill…read it and get real, people.
AND ABC, when you take your head out of crafting your Palin celebrity style piece (and calling it an “interview”), would you change the misleading headline on this article.
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/fulltext.asp?DocName=&SessionId=3&GA=93&DocTypeId=SB&DocNum=99&GAID=3&LegID=734&SpecSess=&Session=
Posted by: mother of a 2 and 6 yr. old | September 9, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
LOL LOL For all you pig lovers!
McCain Used the Pig Remark too… Coincidence or just standard Senate slang???
NBC’s Carrie Dann points out, McCain himself used this phrasing during the primary campaign. On October 11, 2007, he criticized Hillary Clinton’s healthcare plan after rolling out his own plan.
“I think they put some lipstick on a pig,” he said to the Des Moines Rotary Club when asked if he could put a price tag on Hillarycare, “but it’s still a pig.”
Posted by: Libratine | September 9, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
linda n carolina, YOU ARE RIGHT ON. kimbers, YOU TOO!
I AM MAD AS HELL!
Posted by: MAD AS HELL | September 9, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm
This is the lowest point in this campaign. There is a new candidate on the scene who hasn’t been vetted by McCain, or the media and all we can come up with is THIS. I guess McCain and his operatives have dared the media to do their job. The fix is in.
Posted by: clarity | September 9, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm
MAD AS HELL – I’m not sure what that means, but I’m glad you support Obama’s attempt to protect our kids from child molesters.
Posted by: kimbers | September 9, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm
KEEP YOUR GODDAMM HANDS AND MINDS OFF OUR CHILDREN YOU FCUKING PIG SH!T MTOHERFCUKERS!
THIS HAS GONE TOO FAR.
I HOPE THE DEER HUNTERS FIND YOU NOW!
Posted by: MAD AS HELL
****************************
I hope this person doesn’t have a gun,
and commit suicide.
Posted by: spacerook1 | September 9, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
Given all the sexual abuse teachers have been doing to kids…I don’t want any teacher saying anything about sex until my child is old enough to realize that teachers can’t be trusted at times. 5 year olds do not need to learn about sex…….and not all kids are created equal to begin with—parents are in the better position to decide when their child is ready.
Posted by: chattyway | September 9, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
Why does McCain keep talking about “victory and honor” in Iraq when he’s completely without honor, scruples or shame at home? McCain has truly disgraced himself and sunk to new lows.
Posted by: tired of all the lies | September 9, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
Education is one of the MOST IMPORTANT things for children and adults. The material should, of course, be age appropriate. I fully support Obama’s position on this issue. Shame on McCain!!!
If Palin was aware of the importance of educating children about sex, she might not have a 17-year-old unmarried daughter with an unwanted pregnancy.
Posted by: jmb | September 9, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
aw ha ha, the lefties are circling the wagon, there will be a whole lot of disappointed people come November 4th. It’s fun to watch them chase their tails.
Posted by: Kim | September 9, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
Where’s the list of the Democratic party sex offenders? I don’t believe there have been only Republican offenders. I don’t believe this should come down to a party issue and don’t like what ABC has done with this article but let’s be honest – There are sickos on both sides. This blog is about when it is appropriate to teach our children about sex. It is not in kindergarten! Obama -according to this ABC article- is not just talking about inappropriate touching. He is talking about giving teachers the right to answer sex related questions at the kindergaten level -which is wrong!! That is not up to the teachers or our politicians to decide -that is up to us as parents. I would be extremely upset if my daughters teacher decided it was okay to tell her about sex. It is soooo not her place.
Posted by: Ginny | September 9, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm
kimbers,
IN RE: Juli An – so you’re going to fall for Palin’s crap instead? Why would anybody who was smart enough to support Hillary be dumb enough to vote for Palin – who opposes everything Hillary has ever stood for – just because she wears a skirt? How stupid do you think we are? Sorry but you’re full of crap. I call B S on you. You’re not a Hillary voter and you never were. Stop lying.
AND PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING ELSE RELATING TO THIS TOPIC.
Posted by: MAD AS HELL | September 9, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm
It’s just like a black person to want to sexualize children. Blacks are savages who molest their own kids at very early ages. This is why there is so much teenage pregnancy in the black community. Blacks are sexual animals.
Posted by: chattyway | September 9, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm
Obama is nothing by a clueless lying crook…why any defend him is beyond me. I suggest that Obama stop with the childish name callings because the adults are getting pist and lining up to vote him away.
Posted by: chattyway | September 9, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm
richardcranium1, you take Palin’s quote on Iraq out of context, as does most of the media. Governor Palin said to pray that there is a plan for Iraq and that the plan is God’s plan. In other words, she actually wants our government to align what we do in Iraq with God’s will. For atheists, that will sound like nonsense but for people who believe in God, it’s not that crazy of any idea…, to want there to be a plan for Iraq and to have that plan align with God’s will.
Of course it’s not popular for many on the left to suggest that God might have a hand in directing anything. I’m one who hopes that God will give our leaders wisdom — heaven knows they need it, especially in dealing with issues like the Iraq War.
As for your list of other Palin issues, they amount to nothing when compared with the porking and pandering Obama/Biden have done over the years (even over Obama’s very, very few and inconsequential years in the Senate). Obama made a big mistake when he hired on Biden, the “Senator from MBNA”, who fights against consumer protection from banks and credit card companies at every turn — Biden is bought and paid for by credit card thieves, including his credit card industry “consultant” son:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=5652512
There is a reason Joe Biden is called the “Senator from MBNA” — he has always put their interests above any other. Obama can try to spin it however he likes. Biden was a poor choice, largely because he tries to keep regular Americans enslaved to the banks and make them poorer. It’s not a great way to connect to the average American….
Posted by: TC | September 9, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm
So first Palin lies about her support on the “Bridge to Nowhere” and now McCain lies about this. If the GOP wins a campaign based on lies, do they deserve to win at all? Does truth and honesty not matter any more? Does the biggest lie win now? This is a sad day for America. I am truly frightened for our country and our democracy.
Posted by: rotten at the top | September 9, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm
I have voted republican every year since 1971.
This year I liked Obama but was open to what McCain might show me. I’m shocked, angry, ashamed of him and the Republican party for this horrific smear.
How dare you. You have gone way over the top. Dishonorable does not begin to describe the ad.
McCain has lost my respect and my vote.
Posted by: I'm through | September 9, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm
TC – what do you think God makes of Palin and McCain’s campaign lies so far?
Posted by: amber dempsey | September 9, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm
chattyway,
I can tell from your writing style that you are black.
Posted by: Just me | September 9, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
Chattyway….we know what you are…your kind is all over these posts. How do you sleep at night.You know a mind is a terrible thing to waste…….to bad you don’t have one.
Posted by: linda n carolina | September 9, 2008, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm
Some moron that goes by the name ‘Mad as Hell’ babbles on
“gtessex,
AND YOU ARE UNCLE CHESTER THE MOLESTER DEFENDING THEM!”
You are such a clever little Moonbat. Isn’t time for you to snort some more Coke? Frakking idiot!
Posted by: gtessex | September 9, 2008, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm
I was telling my AA group the truth about blacks and what animals they are and some PC Liberal complained and had me kicked out of AA. Decent white people like me are discriminated against all the time just for telling the truth.
Posted by: chattyway | September 9, 2008, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm
Those who think Obama is a christian are Christians – not Muslims (many of whom are supporting McCain! Wonder why?)
On sex ed, as parents you can opt out of having your children attend. Mine did. So, what’s the problem?
Posted by: yas | September 9, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm
gtessex – so if you are against this legislation, does that mean you’re FOR child molestation?
Posted by: la bomba | September 9, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm
It’s just like a black person to want to sexualize children. Blacks are savages who molest their own kids at very early ages. This is why there is so much teenage pregnancy in the black community. Blacks are sexual animals.
Posted by: chattyway | Sep 9, 2008 11:33:34 PM
______________________________________
I am sure your knowledge and experience on this are of a personal experience in nature.
I sympathize with you.
Was it your black father or black mother that molested you?
I am sorry that it happened to you.
Posted by: arghh | September 9, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm
I know what sexual animals black men are from when I used to turn tricks. Believe me, black men live to rape white women and children.
Posted by: chattyway | September 9, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm
foreign observer:
You may be a troll, but strangely, that’s not the first time I’ve heard that.
I imagine if America becomes too big a liability for the rest of the world we can expect at the least some “economic warfare” or something in retaliation.
Foreign relations: It’s not just for wimps anymore.
Posted by: McNasty/Barracuda '08 | September 9, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm
To I’am through…Do really think anyone would believe you ever would consider voting for McCain? You are just another clueless Far-left dolt!
Posted by: gtessex | September 9, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm
It won’t be just economic warfare. Make the right choice. Regime change isn’t just for Iraqis anymore.
Posted by: foreign observer | September 9, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
gtessex – and you support child molesters. Sick freak.
Posted by: smadj | September 9, 2008, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm
This pretty much proves that John McCain has no moral decency whatsoever. What a vile, filthy man. Totally and utterly disgraceful. If John McCain thinks that this type of filth and disgusting behavior is acceptable, he has another thing coming. These are not the American Values I grew up believing in. How could anyone support such a vile, morally bankrupt creature?
Posted by: hesingswithfrogs | September 9, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm
I would welcome a foreign liberation from Republican dictatorship if the GOP steals another election.
Posted by: Ron Paul Rules | September 9, 2008, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm
TC What is “Gods” will? Do you talk to him? Do you not think that the Iraqi’s who have been killed and maimed in this war aren’t good enough for God to care about?Does God only care about christians? Are you saying God directed the 9/11 terrorists? All the people who died that terrible day deserved it? OMG..people like youjust make me crazy!!!!
Posted by: linda n carolina | September 9, 2008, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm
Woah, chattyway. Calm down! People may start thinking you’re crazy.
Posted by: anon | September 9, 2008, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm
There are a few countries that warn their children about Americans. They are taught that Americans may be pedophiles.
Posted by: dgh629 | September 9, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm
La Bomba babbles: “gtessex – so if you are against this legislation, does that mean you’re FOR child molestation?”
Do any of you Far-left Moonbats have any brain cells at all? What do you think Assh*le? I would lock child molesters away for life. How does this piece of crap legislation prevent that?
Try using your brains and some common sense. Something that Obama has proven over and over and over again…..he doesn’t have.
Posted by: gtessex | September 9, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm
foreign observer, you might want to check out how many elections Democrats have stolen before you make accusations about Republicans. Start with the dead voters in Chicago giving an election to Kennedy over Nixon a half century ago and work your way forward to Democrat Christine Gregoire’s stealing of the Washington State governorship four years ago when poll workers in Democratic King County, on a third recount, magically “found” thousands of ballots in a closet and handed Gregoire the victory over the actual winner (prior to fraud), Dino Rossi, by less than 200 votes….. Talk about fraud and thievery. Oh yes, many of the voters in that election in King County used green cards to prove their identity. The Dems are just mad about 2000 because they couldn’t stuff the ballot boxes during recounts in Florida (as they did in Washington) before the Supreme Court stopped them from doing so…. Final note: We need federal election standards and to remove partisan hacks from running elections at any level and to make sure that only citizens vote and that they only vote once. One person, one vote.
Posted by: Stop the Thieves | September 9, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm
ABC staff writers, suggest reevaluating the prime time schedule. Or are you a part of the 48% of Americans who chooses to believe blatant lies from a dishonorable man and woman? Are you all the same people who watch others less qualified than you get promoted at your workplace? Are you the same people who pay your bills on time or experience physical discomfort when you can’t? Are you all the same people who happily accept less than the cost of living raises after your company’s CEO explains the company has experienced its most profitable year? If you answered Yes to any of these questions, stop it! You are hurting Yourselves, all Americans families, small businesses and even Wall Street. You are doing what the terrorists could never do, you are DESTROYing America from the foundation. Remember Truth, Honesty and the TRUE AMERICAN Way. It’s not just for children anymore! Edward R Murrows wanted and needed NOW more than ever.
Posted by: Edward R. Murrow wanted | September 9, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm
Sandra wallace- that’s short on your statement. McCain opposed to attacking Kerry on his war records. You don’t even get your fact straight there. Just because he’s a republican, doesn’t what Republican done is what he’s done too.
I came to the US from Asia at 7th grade and I didn’t know anything about sex. This kind of educatin that obama talks about lead to why our country talk publicly about sex. There’s not even a single show on TV doesn’t refer to sex, even kids’ show on Disney. Disgusting
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okay. let’s assume you are right. would a child to learn about sex from oh say Jamie Lynn Spears on whatever that show she’s on or would you rather have it taught in a professional, educational way.
People are simply dreaming if they think that they can simply say to their kids don’t have sex and assume that they will not do it.
Posted by: Tina | September 9, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm
anon – I will NOT calmed down. When I was in the life I was raped over and over by blacks and I know what savages they are. Obama is like every other black man – all he wants to do is rape and impregnate white women and children. This is why he wants to sexualize our children.
Posted by: chattyway | September 9, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm
“…if the GOP steals another election.”
What makes anyone think they won’t at least try? Seriously, we have Karl Rove at the helm again.
Posted by: anon | September 9, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm
JMB states: “If Palin was aware of the importance of educating children about sex, she might not have a 17-year-old unmarried daughter with an unwanted pregnancy.”
How do you know she didn’t? Did the D.A.R.E program taught in the schools to prevent kids from using drugs work?
Hint: It didn’t
Posted by: gtessex | September 9, 2008, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm
gtessex – so if you’re against child molestation, then why don’t you want to give kids the tools to defend themselves? Seems to me that you want to make it easier for child molesters to violate our kids. You are sick.
Posted by: chattyway | September 9, 2008, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm
I genuinely believe that people are far more sophisticated than they were even four years ago. This includes the demographic that the Repubs talk down to between the lines and think they can scare into voting against their own interests.
There’s a karma train a comin’ and it won’t be derailed.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 9, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
Chattyway: “when I was in the life” Are you dead? Channeling in a post…cool
Posted by: linda n carolina | September 9, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
The South and Central American Military coalition alone is comprised of 26 nations and has a standing combined army of over 6,500,000 soldiers and armaments the sextuple that of the NATO forces.
They are predominantly socialist, with powerhouse nations like Brazil, Venezuela and Cuba as well as “secret” members.
They also don’t like Bush.
Something to think about.
Posted by: A Democracia do Povo | September 9, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
Stop The Thieves – I am not speaking to you. Your kind is part of the problem. You will be dealt with by the international community as necessary. They have already drawn up a list of indictments in the Hague.
Posted by: foreign observer | September 9, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm
Another moonbat babbles: “gtessex – and you support child molesters. Sick freak.”
Fark off assh*le!
Posted by: gtessex | September 9, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm
linda n carolona – no, that’s street slang for turning tricks, hon. But you sheltered liberals wouldn’t know anything about real life on the street where black animals rape you whenever they want.
Posted by: chattyway | September 9, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm
Obama dropped to a new low with his pig/lipstick remark! In fact he dropped right into the mud and mire that pigs wallow in! His remark was disrespectful and uncalled for. He should apologize to Gov. Palin. Also 5 year olds are too young to be taught sex education! They should be told about inappropriate touching and they should be told that if anyone touches them in their private areas they should tell an adult but that is all that they need to know at that age. Parents should tell them this, not their teachers!
Posted by: carlyonsue | September 9, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm
This is a pathetic stunt, far below the person McCain used to be. If he’s going to stoop this low, what’s next? Palin must have given him another sip of the extremist kool-aid. Sad day. The Obama campaign has to respond to this. Better yet, maybe the American media can do its job and ask tough questions (of BOTH campaigns) to sift the wheat from the chaff in the claims being planted.
Posted by: Paul | September 9, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm
gtessex – are you a child molester, too or do you just want to make it easier for them because you hate Obama? Crazy Republicans would hurt our kids because of their partisan insanity.
Posted by: louis gonzaga | September 9, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm
But then, as I see the editorial shift here, I suspect they are getting their news elsewhere.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 9, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm
Chattyway
You used to be just a clueless idiot. When did you suddenly become an indecent hate-monger? This seems to be a new one of your personalities coming to the surface.
Posted by: jock59801 | September 9, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm
carolynsue – why? Palin compared herself to a dog, what’s the difference?
Posted by: manolo | September 9, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm
Brazil is the third largest weapons manufacturer in the world, with intercontinental ballistic missiles and decades old nuclear capability.
And you thought they were just a rain forest…
Posted by: A Democracia do Povo | September 9, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm
jock – sorry hon, I fell off the wagon again… Obama brings back bad memories for me…
Posted by: chattyway | September 9, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
Ed from MA, I truly like your style :o)
Country First!
Obama/Biden 08
Posted by: bc46 | September 9, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
carlyonsue.
Rupubs have been putting lipstick on pigs long before Palin was around.
What bothers you is that the analogy falls into place of its own accord.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 9, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm
Chattaway: Well what is your point…coming in here saying Obama was wanting to rape all our kids….sorry but if what happened to you is true you sound like you need help…condeming all black men doesn’t help.
Posted by: linda n carolina | September 9, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm
carolynsue – um, that’s exactly what they’re being taught. McCain is misrepresenting Obama’s position on this – again. Please don’t fall for lies.
Posted by: nimbus | September 9, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm
linda n carolina, you seem to have issues. I’m not saying any of the things you are writing. People like you, who jump to conclusions, without logic or reason, drive me crazy. Yes, I pray, therefore I talk to God. Most Americans pray too. I don’t think God directs everything. I believe that we have free will but we can follow God’s will if we choose to listen to it. Others have differeing beliefs on God, free will and such matters. I respect that. I wish you would show a little more respect for other people’s beliefs. God cares about all of us. Unfortunately, too many people don’t care enough about, or respect, other people and they kill people: on 9/11, in Pearl Harbor, on the border of Ethiopia and Eritrea, in the jungles of Colombia, etc. Some do it in the name of God. Some do it in the name of Marx or money, tribe, socialism, fascism, etc.
Posted by: Chris in NY | September 9, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm
my point is that you leftists are a bunch of communists who want to force race-mixing on all of us. NEVER!
Posted by: chattyway | September 9, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm
Sarah Palin IS a pig.
Posted by: chattyway | September 9, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm
linda n carolina,
well said. I backed off of a comment, yours is better.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 9, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm
Chattywatty, When terrorists came to kill Americans, they didn’t care whether they were Black, White, Latino, religious or ignorant. Do we really need legislation to teach manners K-Adulthood?
Posted by: Oh My God | September 10, 2008, 12:01 am 12:01 am
Clearly Obama is trying to make his battle one with Palin, not McCain. Either way he loses.
The democrats couldn’t nominate someone more qualified? Really? Out of this entire country? Yikes.
Posted by: New Englander | September 10, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am
Chris in NY: I was addressing TC and his post about doing God’s will in Iraq. I will have to see your post to see what your objection is.Ah…Chris where is your post?
Posted by: linda n carolina | September 10, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am
Aww, c’mon people. This is all much a do about nothing.
I will personally help McCain supervise the education of your children when we win the election.
No worries there.
Posted by: Mark Foley | September 10, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am
Perhaps that is what they teach at the private school that Obama sends his children to.
Private sex education for K through 12…
Or, maybe Obama’s “old uncle” thinks this type of an education is appropriate.
The chickens and the bees…
Maybe Obama can get his friend, Professor Bill Ayers, to teach the subject.
Sex education would be a blast…
Anybody But Obama…
Posted by: Jayhawk | September 10, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am
This is a new low.
That law was designed to help small children recognize innapropriate touching. Like Obama, I am a parent to young girls, so understand how important that is. The McCain/Palin camp’s insinuations are disgusting. They might as well just say that Obama wants to teach five year olds to put condoms on bananas. Shameful.
Posted by: SRE | September 10, 2008, 12:06 am 12:06 am
Mark Foley; Ha Ha…we’ll wack your peepee.
Posted by: linda n carolina | September 10, 2008, 12:06 am 12:06 am
Karl Rove, get off this blog. You’ve royally screwed America. We acknowledge it and now REJECT you.
Posted by: Get Out Karl | September 10, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am
SARAH PALIN ROCKS…….
SARAH PALIN ROCKS…….
SARAH PALIN ROCKS…….
JOHN McCAIN/SARAH PALIN ’08
COUNTRY FIRST………
Posted by: Nicholas | September 10, 2008, 12:10 am 12:10 am
Maybe if the kind of age-appropriate sex education Obama advocates had been available back in the 1970s, I could have avoided being molested three times before the age of twelve.
It’s funny how we demand three years of post-graduate schooling to be a lawyer, and between 4 to 8 years to be a doctor, but the only qualification for being a parent is the ability to procreate.
Posted by: Traci | September 10, 2008, 12:11 am 12:11 am
Woah, chattyway. Calm down! People may start thinking you’re crazy.
Posted by: anon
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Thinking? We’re convinced.
Posted by: spacerook1 | September 10, 2008, 12:12 am 12:12 am
It’s really, really hard for me to believe that there are parents out there who object strongly to teaching young kids -yes, even kindergarteners -that you should tell your teacher or your mom or your dad or WHOEVER you trust that someone has been touching you in bad places or trying to touch you in bad places and telling you it’s a secret. do you think this doesn’t happen?! it’s hard for me to tell my children these things, but it would be so much worse if this happened to them and the only information they had was what the PREDATOR told them (“it’s okay, it’s our little secret,it’s because i love you”). any parent who isn’t taking the admittedly painful step of teaching their children the skills to protect themselves is negligient. if they are prohibiting others from giving them these skills because they’re too uncomfortable to do so themselves are negligient AND ignorant and selfish.
Posted by: laurijs | September 10, 2008, 12:13 am 12:13 am
To foreign observer. We will vote republican to keep an American Patriot in the WhiteHouse FOR AMERICA. If a muslim camel gets in then he will not stand for long, neither will Americans stand to see their country be taken over by radicals. Take heed, we are watching you, and it will be you who will need the rescue if we go after your ass. We’ll Roll.
Posted by: Vote McCain | September 10, 2008, 12:14 am 12:14 am
“And you thought they were just a rain forest…”
Many Americans probably do. Remember, 2 out of 3 of our young people could not successfully find Iraq on a world map. And this was after we’ve been in Iraq for what? Five years? If we’re that bad at basic geography…
I only say all of this because it’s very sad we allow this to happen.
I’ll (loosely) tie this back to the article by saying that better education all around (including sex-education) would be a great thing.
Posted by: anon | September 10, 2008, 12:14 am 12:14 am
Nothing like stealing the innocence of youth.
Kindergarten kids have enough to deal with first time being away from home. They have enough getting use to school, the learning process and all the new kids.
They took Pray out of schools, now they want to dump sex on the youngest in our schools.
You wonder why Society is like it is.
Posted by: seah | September 10, 2008, 12:15 am 12:15 am
Vote McCain: you don’t have a lot of education, do you? Did you even graduate from high school?
Posted by: laurijs | September 10, 2008, 12:16 am 12:16 am
Some people actually think that I am a child molester just because I look like one.
I would surely advocate for sex education under Repubelickin guidelines, where I am the poster child of a safe adult image.
Posted by: Karl Rove | September 10, 2008, 12:17 am 12:17 am
Republicans will stoop lower than low. They know such tactics worked before. What does it say about us, the public?
Posted by: worldsam | September 10, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am
The 4th Estate is DEAD.
Articles like this prove it.
The media should be questioning the h+++ out of both candidates/their ads/ etc.
Ppl are dying in Iraq/our economy is on the brink of recession (or in one) and all our media can report on is something that never became law, a state bill that parents could opt out of.
hmmmm
Posted by: Lauren | September 10, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am
SARAH PALIN ROCKS McCAINS ROCKING CHAIR……
SARAH PALIN ROCKS McCAINS ROCKING CHAIR……
SARAH PALIN ROCKS.McCAINS ROCKING CHAIR……
ALASKA FIRST, COUNTRY LATER………
Posted by: spacerook1 | September 10, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am
Oh! so McCain and Palin do not want to talk about sex , but hump away– 5 kids for Palin and Lots ocming from her 5 kid brood– McCain is completely impotent– he is even hiding his mouth so he dosent show his vile yellow teeth.
Palin is the trophy Bride of the GOP and a shame.
Posted by: Misty | September 10, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am
I find it sad to see that McCain – a guy who truly did take some principled positions against his party years ago on taxes, torture and other issues – has stooped so very low as he has in this campaign.
Now he’s paired up with a VP candidate who repeats verified lies every day on the campaign trail – about her saying “no thanks” to the bridge to nowhere, about selling her jet on Ebay and firing her chef, about being an earmark maverick, etc. This is a clearly dishonest, dangerously misleading character to put near the highest office in the land, and shows extremely poor judgment, cynicism and desperation on McCain’s part.
Woe to us all if Americans aren’t wise enough to check out the facts and understand what’s going on in this election – it’s deadly serious stuff to put such untrustworthy characters like this at the top. And they even support Bush’s policies – if anyone ever gets them to talk about their actual policies. Amazing…
Posted by: kelvinator | September 10, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am
“If a muslim camel gets in then he will not stand for long, neither will Americans stand to see their country be taken over by radicals. Take heed, we are watching you, and it will be you who will need the rescue if we go after your ass. We’ll Roll.” -VoteMcCain
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Nice work. The racism was a nice touch. Who do you propose should pay for all of these wars you’re ready to start? We clearly can’t afford them ourselves – we’re borrowing money from China to pay for our current “military engagements” as it is. I can’t imagine other countries lending us money indefinitely so we can continue to enact our “cowboy” approach to diplomacy.
Posted by: anon | September 10, 2008, 12:22 am 12:22 am
“Nothing like stealing the innocence of youth.”
yeah, Seah: there’s nothing like a predator stealing some poor child’s innocence and telling her “don’t tell anyone, it’s our secret, bad things will happen to your mommy and daddy if you tell” and no one has ever talked to this child or given her the chance or the skills to know it’s not right and the courage to tell someone. so he/she carries it and feels “dirty” and wrong his/her whole life. Are you really naive enough to think this doesn’t happen all the time??!!
Posted by: laurijs | September 10, 2008, 12:23 am 12:23 am
“Learning about sex before learning how to read”. Obama learned from Rev Wright.
Obama/Biden 08
Posted by: Pro OB | September 10, 2008, 12:23 am 12:23 am
I don’t want no teacher telling my kid at the age of 5 about sex.Thats my place to talk to them when they start asking not the teacher.A 5 year old is into coloring and making new friends. Sex is so far of their minds.They are still babies in a lot of ways. It would blow their minds.Teaching them about bad people is one thing but sex no way.Obama is wrong with this and it just proves how much he wants to run our lives including our kids.I see him more and more trying to control us.
Posted by: will | September 10, 2008, 12:23 am 12:23 am
Palin is a pig?
Sex ed for teenagers?
Next thing you know, Obama will start saying things like “my muslim faith”.
This Harvard fellow sure is dumb. Too dumb to be President of my country. Maybe in his house ‘pig’ is a term of endearment. Is this the son his mother raised?
Posted by: JB | September 10, 2008, 12:23 am 12:23 am
The Republicans and McCain are pulling out all the stops to get elected. They will say and do anything, even say things they know to be untrue.
Posted by: Paul | September 10, 2008, 12:23 am 12:23 am
laurijs, just be nice, Vote McCain
probably got his G.E.D yesterday.
Posted by: spacerook1 | September 10, 2008, 12:25 am 12:25 am
This may be the Willie Horton ad of 2008.McCain has no honor and has crawled in the gutter with Rove. Wake up America this fight is for our kids and grandkids….is this what you want for our country? Have we lost our way so much in the last 8 years that this kind of smear is acceptable? God help us all if any of you approve of this ad.
Posted by: linda n carolina | September 10, 2008, 12:32 am 12:32 am
will – you don’t have a lot of education either, do you?
ooops! i’m being elitist.
hey – am i the only one who wants somebody a lot smarter than me running the country? ok, before anyone says “well, it wouldn’t be hard finding someone smarter than you – hardeeharhar”: my failure to capitalize notwithstanding, at least i can SPELL!
Posted by: laurijs | September 10, 2008, 12:33 am 12:33 am
i’m tired about hearing how honorable john mccain is. if he was an honorable person, he would have been acting like one his whole life instead of in selected elements. he has no charisma, severe anger issues and i cant look at him in front of a microphone and think that he would be a solid leader in control of this country. i’m sure his campaign is behind some of the more questionable aspects of his campaign, but it is up to mccain to set the precedent and he hasn’t always acted honorably.
obama isn’t my favorite candidate-i think he has too much republican in him to make me truly happy but the way he presents himself, keeps the debates on point, the way he rebuts vs. misinformation and the general calm presentation of himself makes me very happy to vote for him. i get the feeling that the people in obama’s organization trust him to make a good case for himself wherever he goes unlike mccain and palin who are studiously scripted, off target and are puppets being pushed around by underlings and unable to control their own destinies…kind of like the current bush administration.
Posted by: daniel | September 10, 2008, 12:34 am 12:34 am
Hypocrites! If Ms. Palin’s daughter had been better educated in sex earlier, she may have made the “f–king redneck” hockey player wear a condom.
Posted by: aswar | September 10, 2008, 12:36 am 12:36 am
What i’m not hearing from you “parents” is this. How do you answer that question of where babies come from? Do the teachers just say I don’t know? I remember as a kid being told that storks brought them, never mind I realized a stork wouldn’t bring a baby in a swadling cloth. You can opt out of your kids being told that storks don’t bring children, but shouldn’t they be told by their teachers that they have a right and obligation to report people touching them? They hear it from parents (if some of you are worthy of that title), so why not reenforce it? Noone is saying teach the kids about donkey shows, but we shouldn’t write off their curiosity. As far as Palin, well, we see how well her abstinence only sex ed worked. McCain, I respect you as a vet, but I find your half truths on this issue disturbing.
Posted by: ray | September 10, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am
Obama is taking on Palin cause he knows he can’t take on McCain. Actucally he can’t hold his own aganist Palin either. But he is desperate cause Biden can’t go up aganist Palin either.
Posted by: Voted Hillary, Now Voteing McCain | September 10, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am
I don’t think they just teach sex education to children just like that. i remember when I was in middle school they sent my mother and note about the sex education program. At the bottom it said were or not she would approve and send the letter back. I don’t believe the school just go ahead and teach without the teachers permission. In most cases it would probably lead into a law suit. Don’t you think?
Posted by: just me | September 10, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am
The boy scouts have a child protection program. every scout,Adult, needs to take the class every year. Yet the schools have no program that comes close for protecting our children. Yet liberals will never admit that their programs are bankrupt. The liberals and Obama are pulling out all the stops to get elected. They will say and do anything, even say things they know to be untrue.
Posted by: Larry | September 10, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am
Well you know Muslim Men don’t like women with an opinion or one that beats them nor do they like pigs, it really did not surprise me that Obama refer to Palin as a pig…….it is just his true personality showing thru. Attack Palin for being more experience and qualified than he, attack her via her children, and then finally start calling her stupid childish names. There is no defense for this…..and I can not figure out why anyone would a guy who calls a woman a pig to run the country.
Posted by: chattyway | September 10, 2008, 12:42 am 12:42 am
first of all Voted Hillary, Now Voteing(sic) McCain: I don’t believe that you are a former Hillary supporter, simply because you can’t spell.
If Biden can keep his temper in check, he will tear whatshername to pieces. and, oh yeah, i used to like John McCain. I used to think he was a man of integrity until he sold out the the religious right and the neocons. he used to be one of the few republicans i respected. now i can’t wait to see him embarrass himself in the debates. (wait – did i spell “embarrass” right?)
Posted by: laurijs | September 10, 2008, 12:44 am 12:44 am
no one is saying that we should go into explicit detail about sex with 5 year olds. But it isn’t a bad idea to let them know that a man and a women are needed to make a baby. But I also think that parents should be the ones to introduce sex ed to their kids, so that they can decide what they want their kids to know. The problem is that some parents dont talk to their kids and then their kids get wrong information and bad things happen.
Posted by: paulac | September 10, 2008, 12:44 am 12:44 am
Directed to user comment #2: teaching what inappropriate touching is IS an element of sex-ed, and it is simple knowledge, NOT defense. So, no, it is not self defense as opposed to sex-ed. Don’t by into the right wing’s attempt to justify such filthy tricks. And by the way, I think you meant the interjection “geez”…not “geese” which is a collection of migratory birds, you idiot. I can’t believe you said that in a line making fun of someone else’s education. Priceless!
Posted by: SaveAmericaSoon | September 10, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am
What does ignorance of sex ed at a young age get you?
Pregnant teenagers.
Hypocrisy lesson #617, brought to you by the republican party.
Posted by: davedownsouth | September 10, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am
PEOPLE PEOPLE PEOPLE DID YOU HEAR THE NEWS… TRIG PALIN IS THE NEW MESSIAH… GOD SENT A DOWNS SYNDROME BABY AS THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST TO TEST OUR FAITH!
ALL GOOD CHRISTIANS SHOULD MAKE THEIR WAY TO ALASKA NOW!!
Posted by: patrick | September 10, 2008, 12:50 am 12:50 am
What i’m not hearing from you “parents” is this. How do you answer that question of where babies come from? Do the teachers just say I don’t know? I remember as a kid being told that storks brought them, never mind I realized a stork wouldn’t bring a baby in a swadling cloth. Your bordering on criminally stupid with you comments……………. What makes you think that I want my rights as a parent given over to liberals who promote being Gay as an alternative to Normal sex. Why would you think that I would want you to give me no choice as a parent in how to raise my children.You are in need of a therapy session to set you right.
Posted by: Perry | September 10, 2008, 12:50 am 12:50 am
i have a 4 1/2 year old daughter. we taught her what her body parts are called and what inappropriate touching is. she understands that she has her own personal space.
a couple of weeks ago, she asked about how babies arrive. we showed her pictures of her mom when she was pregnant and explained that babies come out of the big belly and through a vagina. my daughter happily mentioned that she had a vagina too. we explained that when she turned into an adult like her mother it would stretch to fit a baby. she looked a little weirded out by that but she soon became happy and i think she felt connected to her mother in that moment. we didnt get into conception, guts, blood and all that. that might take a little more time to present that in a way a little girl can understand.
i feel good that we were able to give her an honest answer that was toned down enough for her to understand. i don’t know why it is so hard for people to help their kids out as they can handle it.
Posted by: daniel | September 10, 2008, 12:51 am 12:51 am
No person with half a brain will vote for McSame and Caribou Barbie!
Posted by: Patrick | September 10, 2008, 12:52 am 12:52 am
Um…what the hell is wrong with you so called “Hillary Supporters” that have completely turned on what Hillary and or party stands for !!! You’re on the wrong side of the fence you brainwashed idiots !!! I mean wait a minute…does this mean that you are going to let all of Hillary’s devotion and hard to this campaign go to waste ?!!! If you’re such die-hard supporters than vote democrat, forget about the fact that Obama is on the ticket (Whom I supported since day one) If you want your queen to be our president one day than don’t demean your vote for Mccain-Palin !!! She’s still there she ain’t going anywhere, my god !! I’m disgusted with all of you traders, get with the reality program !!! Here’s an example of what a so called “Hillary Supporter” JULI AN posted on this page in reference to all of the American women:
We’re intelligent – we see through both the Covert attacks from the Obama Campaign just as easily as the Overt ones from all the rest. We do our homework – we read everything we can get our hands or eyes on and we read between the lines. The media has manipulated the election process from the beginning and we will not be told who to vote for. Warning: The more you smear Sarah Palin, the more determined we will be out there garnering votes for the McCain/Palin ticket. Believe it – Report it – It’s True!
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See what I mean my fellow Democrats and the admirable Republicans For Obama ?!!!
HEY JULI AN !!! WAKE UP AND SMELL THE MAKE-UP !!! YOU’VE JUST BECOME ANOTHER VICTIM OF MANIPULATION, YOU BETTER START TAKING YOUR OWN ADVICE AND TURN IT AROUND SISTA !!! VOTING DEMOCRAT = TRUE HILLARY SUPPORT !!! NO WAY, NO HOW, NO MCCAIN, NO PALIN !!!
LATINA FOR
OBAMA-BIDEN 2008-2016
Posted by: Deiby | September 10, 2008, 12:53 am 12:53 am
I’m looking forward to new episodes of Sponge Bob PenisPants. Oh, and Elmo the Transexual. Dorah the Sexual Explorer (I only tried it once – that’s Uno en espanol)?
Posted by: ObamaForAmerika | September 10, 2008, 12:53 am 12:53 am
PALIN IS THE NEW MESSIAH… GOD SENT A DOWNS SYNDROME BABY AS THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST TO TEST OUR FAITH!
ALL GOOD CHRISTIANS SHOULD MAKE THEIR WAY TO ALASKA NOW!!
Posted by: patrick | Sep 10, 2008 12:50:11 AM…………………………….Not one republican has declared anyone the new messiah. Obama supporters have already claimed Obama as the second coming.
Posted by: Daniel | September 10, 2008, 12:54 am 12:54 am
My mother always told me, “boy, if somebody hits you, you better hit him back.” Obama should start lying on McCain, e.g., he cheated on his first wife, he took bribes in the Keating scandal, he used his influence to cop dope for Cindy, etc.
Posted by: Hardlabour | September 10, 2008, 12:54 am 12:54 am
Anyone who believes in creationism has no place in the white house maybe a group house
Posted by: Patrick | September 10, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am
HEY JULI AN !!! WAKE UP AND SMELL THE MAKE-UP !!! YOU’VE JUST BECOME ANOTHER VICTIM OF MANIPULATION, YOU BETTER START TAKING YOUR OWN ADVICE AND TURN IT AROUND SISTA !!! VOTING DEMOCRAT = TRUE HILLARY SUPPORT !!! NO WAY, NO HOW, NO MCCAIN, NO PALIN !!!
LATINA FOR
OBAMA-BIDEN 2008-2016……..Are you a citizen?
Posted by: Willson | September 10, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am
these democrats are vicious attack dogs coming
unglued, because they are sickos. like pig michael
moron.
Posted by: foxynewslady | September 10, 2008, 12:57 am 12:57 am
Oh? Those aren’t lies? Well, since McCain is lying on him, Obama should start telling the truth on McCain.
Posted by: Hardlabour | September 10, 2008, 12:57 am 12:57 am
Get a Life. Teens who have sex ed still get pregnant. I had girlfriends who sat thru sex ed class and they got pregnant. A cheerleader at our HS got pregnant in 11th grade. OBTW – Ever hear of type errors? Obamanuts are SO Petty. Priceless!!!!!
Posted by: suprise | September 10, 2008, 12:58 am 12:58 am
democrats are coming unglued. nobama is already
unglued. lol
Posted by: foxynewslady | September 10, 2008, 12:58 am 12:58 am
yes. obama is unglued
Posted by: foxynewslady | September 10, 2008, 12:59 am 12:59 am
If you believe in Creationism then you have to reject Geology, Biology, Physics,
Astronomy, Mathmatics, Archeology and on and on…Bush spent 2 terms assaulting science we dont need more of the same…while the rest of the world passes us by
Posted by: Patrick | September 10, 2008, 12:59 am 12:59 am
My mother always told me, “boy, if somebody hits you, you better hit him back.” Obama should start lying on McCain, e.g., he cheated on his first wife, he took bribes in the Keating scandal, he used his influence to cop dope for Cindy, etc.
Posted by: Hardlabour | Sep 10, 2008 12:54:10 AM…………..Your too late McCain had brought this stuff up and your behind the times. Plus you have failed to connect your lies in a way to make relevance to the subject.
Posted by: Daniel | September 10, 2008, 1:00 am 1:00 am
I used to respect McCain for standing up to the religious right Cooks but he flipped and cowed to them by picking book banning Caribou Barbie. Now the religious right has the GOP in another headlock
Posted by: Patrick | September 10, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am
democrats are all coming unglued. lol
Posted by: foxynewslady | September 10, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am
Perry: first of all, your post is a little jumbled, so i’m not sure i understand it, but…when my children have asked where babies come from i try to answer them honestly, but age-appropriately. i haven’t done as well as i would have liked sometimes, but my 9 almost 10 year old boy understands the mechanics and frequently asks me (his mom)about details and implications. i try my best. he has a cousin who’s gay and our next door neighbors are gay. he understands that most boys like girls and girls like boys but sometimes boys like boys and girls like girls. does that answer your question? i don’t want to tell you how to raise your children. i think it’s sad if you teach them to hate and be afraid of people who aren’t the same as you, but i guess that’s your right.
Posted by: laurijs | September 10, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am
I believe that teaching young children about “bad touching” would save a lot of young boys from Republigan child predators and other whom we teach children to trust.
Posted by: Hoosier | September 10, 2008, 1:02 am 1:02 am
Oh? Those aren’t lies? Well, since McCain is lying on him, Obama should start telling the truth on McCain.
Posted by: Hardlabour | Sep 10, 2008 12:57:46 AM………….I want the truth about Obamas friends. You know the evil ones that have been his friends for most of his life?
Posted by: mark | September 10, 2008, 1:03 am 1:03 am
Palin wears glasses instead of contacts because she thinks the glasses make her look intelligent–in a slutish porn magazine sort of way. Billy Bob and the rest of the Repugnants have glossy pinups of her at every feed store in Dixie.
Posted by: Hardlabour | September 10, 2008, 1:03 am 1:03 am
This Patrick is really coming unglued. So much anger. Anger leads to pain. Pain leads to suffering. Suffering leads to me having to support his homeless ass when he’s too “depressed” (i.e. lazy) to find gainful employment.
Posted by: BitterPeopleSuck | September 10, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am
Just keep doing it the Republican way for the past 30 years. Wait until the underage teen is pregnant, then Blame it on ‘PARENTAL NEGLECT.’ That ought-a-keep the fundings down for preventing teen pregnancies in the schools for another 30 years. Of course the numbers of teen pregnancies will just continue to rise.
Posted by: mere | September 10, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am
And the hits just keep coming, but really, is that all McCane has going for him is nit picky little crap like this that isn’t even news worthy, by the way the MEDIA is a huge part of the problem too.
This whole system is an embarassment, no wonder we wound up with Bush!
Posted by: cc | September 10, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am
The Dumb Belt (Red State Bible Belt)
has the highest rate of teen pregnancy, lowest test scores, Highest incidence of Obesity and smoking, worst economies, Highest rate of rape and incest so it is no wonder that these same troubled areas make horendous political choices
Posted by: Patrick | September 10, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am
hey suprise,
next time sit in the front during the spelling classes instead of in the back with the sluts and you will know how to spell too ;)
[quoted from suprise]
Get a Life. Teens who have sex ed still get pregnant. I had girlfriends who sat thru sex ed class and they got pregnant. A cheerleader at our HS got pregnant in 11th grade. OBTW – Ever hear of type errors? Obamanuts are SO Petty. Priceless!!!!!
Posted by: daniel | September 10, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am
If Ahnold’s the Governator, then MISS PIGGY’S THE BACONATOR!!!
soooooooooWEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK
LOL!!
COUNTRY FIRST!! OBAMA/BIDEN 08!!
Posted by: Ed from MA | September 10, 2008, 1:05 am 1:05 am
I believe that teaching young children about “bad touching” would save a lot of young boys from Republigan child predators and other whom we teach children to trust.
Posted by: Hoosier | Sep 10, 2008 1:02:03 AM………….Who is going to protect the children from liberals who advocate being Gay is a good thing.
Posted by: Mark | September 10, 2008, 1:05 am 1:05 am
the democrats that posted are smoking their dopeand madhatters because the nobama is sinking
in the polls. Our neighbors came to see us today
and said, “we are not voting for nobama, hope you
aren’t either,because he is a muslim. They found
out from some source, Jeremiah wright’s church
is not Christian but a muslim congregation of
black people. wow. can anyone tell us more?
I did find out the community organizer, working with
church groups was the church group of Jeremiah
wright’s church. He was also into the voter fraud
our neighbors told us and they said,he is a very
scarey man and we had no idea how scarey
until we got the letters from Chicagoans.
Posted by: foxynewslady | September 10, 2008, 1:05 am 1:05 am
The McCain campaign is on the defensive because of Sarah Palin’s failure as a parent, she failed to teach her 17 year old daughter about condoms. So the best defence to to go on the attack which is what McCain campaign is doing.
Posted by: Marty | September 10, 2008, 1:08 am 1:08 am
poor nobama is shocked he is behind mc cain
now and Palin is the most popular candidate for
the past 3 decades. lol
People run to meet her shouting sar-ah, sar-ah.
They are absolutely crazy about her. The rimless
eye glasses are sold out everywhere.. I tried to order
some today and the optical shop said, we have sold 420,000 pair of rimless eyeglasses since Sar-ah Palin made her acceptance speech.
Posted by: foxynewslady | September 10, 2008, 1:08 am 1:08 am
Don’t worry! This is just to distract you from LARRY CRAIG, TED HAGGARD and the rest of the Repervlican family-values-hypocrites.
Not to mention Miss Piggy’s knocked-up teenage daughter!
COUNTRY FIRST!! OBAMA/BIDEN 08!!
Posted by: Ed from MA | September 10, 2008, 1:08 am 1:08 am
Mark | Sep 10, 2008 1:05:17 AM………….Who is going to protect the children from liberals who advocate being Gay is a good thing.
________________
At least I know where I stand with the liberal gays. It’s the closet Republicans that scare me. How many have had to resign from office in the last four years for getting caught with their male interns.
Posted by: Hoosier | September 10, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am
NEW SLOGAN: WHAT’S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SARAH PALIN AND GEORGE BUSH? LIPSTICK!
Posted by: Patrick | September 10, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am
wait till biden has to meet with Palin and debate.
Poor old man may have a heart attack. We
already know when nobama meets mc cain, he
will gasp, him haw and then as he stutters, he
will go off on a tirade about how great he is.
hahah. Can’t wait to see Mc Cain and Palin knock
them out of the ring.
Posted by: foxynewslady | September 10, 2008, 1:11 am 1:11 am
Not to mention Miss Piggy’s knocked-up teenage daughter!
COUNTRY FIRST!! OBAMA/BIDEN 08!!
Posted by: Ed from MA | Sep 10, 2008 1:08:50 AM
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Wow, Ed from MA. If that’s what you consider a pig, I’d like to sleep with your fat wife. Or are you gay?
Posted by: BitterPeopleSuck | September 10, 2008, 1:11 am 1:11 am
DANIEL: You made an attempt to sound or, rather write as if you are an intelligent person questioning my construction of a statement relevant to the subject. The problem is with your comprehension, not my ability to make a cogent and appropriate observation. GO BACK TO GRADE SCHOOL and learn appropriate english word usage. It’s “you’re” (a contraction of “you are”), not “your”, you pretentious imbecile.
Posted by: Hardlabour | September 10, 2008, 1:11 am 1:11 am
alot of trash in the bin here. country first wins
an award for being plastic throw away. lol
Posted by: foxynewslady | September 10, 2008, 1:12 am 1:12 am
McCain supports sexual molesters?
Is that the kind of change that McCain and Palin are running on?
Buchanan 08
Posted by: Dave | September 10, 2008, 1:14 am 1:14 am
Please talk to your friends and family. If they have any notion of voting for McCain/Palin… DO ANYTHING YOU CAN TO SHOW THEM THAT WE CANNOT HAVE 4 MORE YEARS OF THE SAME. OBAMA 2008
Posted by: E | September 10, 2008, 1:14 am 1:14 am
The Dumb Belt (Red State Bible Belt)
has the highest rate of teen pregnancy, lowest test scores, Highest incidence of Obesity and smoking, worst economies, Highest rate of rape and incest so it is no wonder that these same troubled areas make horendous political choices
Posted by: Patrick | Sep 10, 2008 1:04:37 AM………liberals advocate Family planning, being Gay, abortions.If we wait them out they will be the smaller group. they won’t have anyone to replace themselves in the world.They could be put on the endangered list.
Posted by: Sammy2 | September 10, 2008, 1:14 am 1:14 am
I never thought about teaching sex ed to kindergartners, until my twin 5-year-olds came home one day and asked me what french kissing was. They had heard it from kids at school. Right then and there, I decided they had better hear the whole scoop from me, rather than from kids on the playground. I also got involved in a committee at school to adopt a K-6 health and sex ed curriculum. That was back in 1988. Let’s get real. What are kids today learning on the playground?
Posted by: Lisa | September 10, 2008, 1:15 am 1:15 am
i fail to see how this is a good thing. at least obama has had some national visibility and people have had time to formulate intelligent opinions about him (for or against). sarah palin has been visible for what, a week and 1/2? how can anyone actively support what she brings to the table without even hearing her speak her own words? if you like her after hearing her positions in her own words fine, but that moment hasn’t happened yet.
since obama first became visible nationally and people heard what he stood for britney spears was popular, unmarried, married, pregnant x2, unmarried, crazy and popular again. palin hasn’t even been visible for one of those fickle rock star cycles and if people are sold on that same cult of personality you give a pop star our country is in huge trouble.
Posted by: foxynewslady
poor nobama is shocked he is behind mc cain
now and Palin is the most popular candidate for
the past 3 decades. lol
People run to meet her shouting sar-ah, sar-ah.
They are absolutely crazy about her. The rimless
eye glasses are sold out everywhere.. I tried to order
some today and the optical shop said, we have sold 420,000 pair of rimless eyeglasses since Sar-ah Palin made her acceptance speech.
Posted by: daniel | September 10, 2008, 1:16 am 1:16 am
McCain supports sexual molesters?
Is that the kind of change that McCain and Palin are running on?
Buchanan 08
Posted by: Dave | Sep 10, 2008 1:14:10 AM
That is an absurd claim from a undereducated Obama supporter.
Posted by: Mark | September 10, 2008, 1:16 am 1:16 am
Unfortunately, ABC news is demonstrating its inability to distinguish news from cheap sensationalism. A more thorough investigation (hey, remember REPORTING???) will reveal that this is a pig (sans lipstick) in a poke. ABC is a dupe. Shame on you, ABC!
Posted by: Mila Davis | September 10, 2008, 1:16 am 1:16 am
Unfortunately, ABC news is demonstrating its inability to distinguish news from cheap sensationalism. A more thorough investigation (hey, remember REPORTING???) will reveal that this is a pig (sans lipstick) in a poke. ABC is a dupe. Shame on you, ABC!
Posted by: Mila Davis | September 10, 2008, 1:16 am 1:16 am
When I visited my granddaughters when they were 5, I noticed them and a friend playing with Barbie and Ken dolls. The dolls were put in sexual position, etc. When I talked to their Mon, she said they were told about sex in kindergarten, public school. Shortly later, my granddaughter was enrolled in a private school.
The sex education classes were stopped after parents complaints.
Posted by: Grannie | September 10, 2008, 1:16 am 1:16 am
Sarah Piglin (aka Miss Piggy) wears wire-frame eyeglasses!!
Sarah Piglin (aka Miss Piggy) is a CELEBRITY!!
WHOOOPEEEEEE!!!
Miss Piggy’s teenage daughter got knocked up cause Jesus said “Sex Ed is a sin”.
What values Miss Piggy demonstrates!!!
And wire-frame glasses!!!
WHOOOPEEEEEE!!!
COUNTRY FIRST!! OBAMA/BIDEN 08!!
Posted by: Ed from MA | September 10, 2008, 1:17 am 1:17 am
Please talk to your friends and family. If they have any notion of voting for McCain/Palin… DO ANYTHING YOU CAN TO SHOW THEM THAT WE CANNOT HAVE 4 MORE YEARS OF THE SAME. OBAMA 2008
Posted by: E | Sep 10, 2008 1:14:43 AM………Are you promoting hurting people for not wanting Obama as president?
Posted by: Mark | September 10, 2008, 1:19 am 1:19 am
PALIN’S OWN WORDS JUST A MONTH AGO … “As for that VP talk all the time, I’ll tell you, I still can’t answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the VP does every day?
This is why the McCain camp is hiding her from the press… she knows NADA!
Obama Biden -08
Posted by: Patrick | September 10, 2008, 1:20 am 1:20 am
PATRICK: You are wrong! Alaska has the highest incidence of rape and incest. Not sure of whether they are number one in the other categories you mentioned.
Posted by: Hardlabour | September 10, 2008, 1:21 am 1:21 am
Senator Obama’s statement about lipstick and pig are certainly out of line. He is scared and being very foolish. He just lost my vote.
Posted by: Mark | September 10, 2008, 1:23 am 1:23 am
If you are for McSame and Palin you fall into 1 of 4 catagories
1. Racist afraid of a black man
2. Evil Drill Baby Drill use up the oil forget about the future
3. STUPID AS A ROCK… you never read
4. Brainwashed by your fundamentalist preacher
Posted by: Patrick | September 10, 2008, 1:24 am 1:24 am
Sarah Piglin’s knocked-up teenage daughter.
Larry Craig’s toe-tappin’ men’s room antics.
Ted Haggard’s meth-gay-hooker habit.
Rush Limbaugh’s oxycotin-induced babbling.
Cindy McDrab’s prescription-pain-killer escape hatch.
REPERVLICAN FAMILY VALUES: PRICELESS!!
COUNTRY FIRST!! OBAMA/BIDEN 08!!
Posted by: Ed from MA | September 10, 2008, 1:24 am 1:24 am
Sarah Piglin (aka Miss Piggy) wears wire-frame eyeglasses!!
Sarah Piglin (aka Miss Piggy) is a CELEBRITY!!
WHOOOPEEEEEE!!!
Miss Piggy’s teenage daughter got knocked up cause Jesus said “Sex Ed is a sin”.
What values Miss Piggy demonstrates!!!
And wire-frame glasses!!!
WHOOOPEEEEEE!!!
COUNTRY FIRST!! OBAMA/BIDEN 08!!
Posted by: Ed from MA | Sep 10, 2008 1:17:07 AM
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Ed from Ma, seriously now. Can’t get more substance than “Piglin – Ms Piggy.” I looked over the postings and didn’t see one refference to Dumbo’s ears (Obama, in case you’re using one of those braile computers). No one called him a retard for his stammering (I mean, Christ, the guy sounds about as intelligent as Billy Bob Thorton in Slingblade or that retarted kid in What’s Eating Gilbert Grape). But I’m not cutting him for that. I happen to think he’s a Commie Pinko Bastard. – and no, not a reference to his absent father – just that he’s a condescending jerk-off. – But let’s get back to the issues.
Posted by: BitterPeopleSuck | September 10, 2008, 1:24 am 1:24 am
GRANNIE: I bet them kids are liars too. I wonder where did they learn that from? Their mom should keep them away from you. No school would teach a kindergardener the missionary position.
Posted by: Hardlabour | September 10, 2008, 1:25 am 1:25 am
John McCain’s crude Chelsea Clinton joke
By: John Amato on Saturday, February 9th, 2008 at 9:01 AM – PST
John McCain made this odious joke about Chelsea Clinton back in ‘98.
Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno.”
– Sen. John McCain, speaking to a Republican dinner, June 1998.
Not only is McCain’s hideous attempt at humor about 10 times more tasteless than what Shuster said (as the David Corn article notes, newspapers that reported on the joke wouldn’t even print it), but while the newsman’s ill-conceived comment was at least spontaneous, McCain’s joke was a prepared remark to a public audience.
Maybe McCain has more in common with Limbaugh than Rush thinks. The straight talk express should be ashamed of himself.
Posted by: arethereanymembernamesleft | September 10, 2008, 1:25 am 1:25 am
Ok, let’s put ourselves in the kids’ shoes. What do you think you’d wanna learn? There’s so many other interesting things besides sex education. Please don’t expose me to these sex stuff at my early age, I’m not interested and don’t get me interested by adding these kind of education while I’m still exploring the environment that I’ve been brought into.
Besides, too much publicity of sex (like exposure to sex talk at early age) would impose a greater risk of sexual offence. You get wat i mean?? Think about it. Don’t instill subjects of sex in a young mind! Parents can handle kindergarten kids.. That is what parents are for!
Think about it, I’m not talking about which party you should support, just plainly on this issue. Think America. Think what you want your kids, your sister and brothers to learn at kindergarten.
Thank you for your thoughts,
GOD BLESS AMERICA;>
Posted by: JOY | September 10, 2008, 1:26 am 1:26 am
Where’s the McCain ad? When I click the link it shows me an Obama ad. Typical liberal media trick by ABC to make us watch an Obama Ad.
Posted by: Nick | September 10, 2008, 1:26 am 1:26 am
Hey BITTER PEOPLE SUCK. Obama is not a bastard. His mother and father were married. Now, Palin’s grandkid, the one Bristol is knocked up with, now that is a confirmed bastard.
Posted by: Hardlabour | September 10, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am
You think Sarah Piglin’s pretty?
IN A PIG’S EYE.
Repervs are NOT SEXY.
Angelina Jolie is sexy, but then SHE’S A DEMOCRAT.
COUNTRY FIRST!! OBAMA/BIDEN 08!!
Posted by: Ed from MA | September 10, 2008, 1:28 am 1:28 am
Ed you forgot McCain’s Hanoi propaganda films, all 38 and his dumping his patient wife after he was released.
McCains Treachery and Adultery.
Priceless.
Posted by: CHUCK | September 10, 2008, 1:28 am 1:28 am
hahahah – all these Obama paid supporters claiming that McCain is attacking Obama in swiftboat like fashion really has me rolling on the flooring laughing This coming from the same Obama paid bloggers making up stories about Palin. hahahahahaha
This sex education has nothing to do with predators, just Obama’s back stepping BS he is so famous for!
Obama stated in his own words: “If they ask a teacher ‘where do babies come from,’ that providing information that the fact is that it’s not a stork is probably not an unhealthy thing”
I didn’t hear predator in there! Oh and another thing, does Obama think the teachers should tell the 5 year olds that there is no such thing as santa too?
Posted by: Niki | September 10, 2008, 1:28 am 1:28 am
I sure as hell don’t want my kids to be exposed to the fairytale of CREATIONISM
Posted by: Patrick | September 10, 2008, 1:28 am 1:28 am
As a pediatrician, I am happy to see that Obama supported age-appropriate sex education from Kindergarten through 12th grade. I applaud the comments from parents stating they want to talk to their kids about this themselves. I wish all parents would do the same. However, the harsh reality is that most don’t. Each child has the RIGHT to know about their own bodies and what is appropriate behavior. This issue is really about children’s rights. As a pediatrician, I teach each of my patients at each of their visits age-appropriate information about themselves and I am glad to see a candidate that supports the schools doing the same.
Posted by: pediatrician from MI | September 10, 2008, 1:28 am 1:28 am
This gets nuttier by the day–coming from both sides. Newsflash for McCain–age appropriate in kindergarten is waiting for the chicken eggs in the incubator to hatch. You build on that as kids get older. Pretty simple.
Posted by: LagunaTriMom | September 10, 2008, 1:32 am 1:32 am
CHATAWAY: You have some real issues. You need to go get treatment–forreal. When you were a whore (in the life), you sought out those black pimps. Statistically though, 90% of whores were raped by their daddies, uncles, brothers or other trusted family members. That is what sexualized them and turned them to whoredom. Don’t indict all black men because you got the brakes pimped off you by black doods.
Posted by: Hardlabour | September 10, 2008, 1:32 am 1:32 am
Hey ardlabour – Guess what – Obama IS A BASTARD! There is no record of a marriage or divorce between his mother and father. Even if there was, Obama’s dad never divorced his first wife which would make Obama’s mom’s “marriage” null and void.
But the point is moot because it doesn’t matter, nor should it matter if his parents were married or not.
Posted by: Niki | September 10, 2008, 1:33 am 1:33 am
who here believes in Creationism… come on its OK to admit it
Posted by: Patrick | September 10, 2008, 1:33 am 1:33 am
New Orleans is number 1 in unwed mothers and Chicago is number 2. Rape and incest in Alaska is a fault in your imagination. It is far and few between in Alaska. A AK Nurse.
Posted by: Martin | September 10, 2008, 1:33 am 1:33 am
• In a videotaped speech to students at her church this year she claimed that the war in Iraq is God’s will.
• In the same speech she also claimed that it is God’s will that Alaska build a $30 million gas and oil pipeline.
• As governor, she advocates teaching creationism in public school classrooms.
• A bipartisan committee is investigating Palin who fired public safety commissioner Walt Monegan because he would not dismiss a trooper, Mike Wooten, who went through a messy divorce with her sister before Palin’s election as governor. The evidence is poring out suggesting abuse of power.
• Also refuting overwhelming scientific evidence, Plain states that global warming is not due to human activity.
• She opposes abortion even in the case of rape or incest.
• As mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, she secured almost $27 million in earmarks for her hamlet of about 6,400, assisted by a lobbyist closely allied to now-tarnished Sen. Ted Stevens. Now she says that she is opposed to earmark funding.
• Palin, who has zero experience in foreign policy and only last year received her first U.S. passport , told Alaska Business Monthly that ‘I’ve been so focused on state government, I haven’t really focused much on the war in Iraq.”
• She is under investigation as to whether she abused her power as governor by dismissing the state’s public safety commissioner for refusing to fire her former brother-in-law from the state police.
• She opposes Sex Education in schools and has a 17 year old daughter who and is now pregnant and unwed.
Palin has close ties to the extreme fringe Alaska Independence Party, which has at times sought a vote on whether the state should secede.
Posted by: Patrick | September 10, 2008, 1:38 am 1:38 am
This is a stupid conversation. We all know its not about teaching 5 yrs olds sex ed. It about finding some angle to bash the opponent. I wish the candidates would stick to the real issues and stop the petty fighting.
Posted by: le-grif | September 10, 2008, 1:38 am 1:38 am
• As mayor, she pressured her town librarian to ban books.
• Palin is a NRA member and opposes any bans on assault weapons
(Do you need an assault weapon to kill a moose?)
• Palin flip-flopped on her support for the “Bridge to Nowhere.”
• Bush speechwriter Matthew Scully wrote Palin’s speech… How is this Change?
Whats the Difference between Bush and Palin?…. Lipstick
Clearly she is prepared to continue the Bush legacy of hypocrisy, ignorance of science, cronyism, and promoting the agenda of the extreme religious right. Palin can count herself among the members of the “Flat Earth Society.”
Posted by: Patrick | September 10, 2008, 1:39 am 1:39 am
To Jinny from FL who said: ‘My daughter was part of this so called sex ed in kindergarten this year in Florida and it was shameful!! They had a class of 5 year olds repeating the words “sexual discrimination”. Why in the world does a 5 year old need to know this? They don’t! I still don’t know who I am going to vote for in November but this does not make me want to vote Obama.’
Well Jinny, Do you even know what kind of a world Sarah Palin wants for women? She wants to make it illegal for a rape/incest victim that is impregnated by the rape to go for an abortion. A woman or even a girl irrespective of her age, if impregnated by rape, MUST still be forced to carry the fetus to term and bear the child. If she doesnt the girl will be punished/imprisoned.
Is this the USA we are talking about, or is it some middle eastern fanatic country with Burqa clad subjugated women?!!!!
Beside, Sarah Palin, believes that men MUST get paid more than women. Sarah says NO EQUAL PAY for women!!!
Sam
setu.madhavan@gmail.com
Posted by: Sam | September 10, 2008, 1:40 am 1:40 am
McCain is a gutter punk. Pure and simple.
Posted by: Tom | September 10, 2008, 1:42 am 1:42 am
pediatrician from MI – I’m glad that you feel it’s okay for a teacher to decide what is “age” appropriate sex talk to teach my 5 year old child however, as a mother of 3, I do not believe anyone has the right to decide what they should tell my child about sex at 5 years old!
Besides, it’s too easy to say ‘pediatrician from MI” Most good pediatricians I know have too much work to do then to stop and talk about the birds and the bees with their patients. You must not have many patients if you really are a doctor. I guess someone has to end up at the bottom of the class.
Posted by: Niki | September 10, 2008, 1:42 am 1:42 am
Actually Patrick – the Earth is flat. The rest of space just curves around it. The same can be said for any large body (Rosie O’donnell included).
Posted by: BitterPeopleSuck | September 10, 2008, 1:42 am 1:42 am
Chattyway your dumb as hell!!!
Posted by: J from AZ | September 10, 2008, 1:42 am 1:42 am
There is very little difference between the fanatic Muslim and the fundamentalist christians they both are stuck in literal translations of the Bible Or Koran They are the biggest threat to the modern world
2 sides of the same coin
Posted by: Patrick | September 10, 2008, 1:45 am 1:45 am
Why would McCain lie about this? He is totally disgusting to me now.
Posted by: chattyway | September 10, 2008, 1:46 am 1:46 am
Martin: Get yer facts straight. When Sarah Palin attempted to charge women in her town for the rape kits used on them when they reported they had been raped, the Alaska legislature passed a bill specifically aimed at Palin’s burg, prohibiting the practice of charging the women for the rape kits. As a side bar, it was noted that Alaska had the highest rate of rape and incest of all 50 states. Women should be outraged at her attempt to financially punish them for being raped. This is the truth, not some unsubstantiated blog chatter. But even in spite of this outrage, there are still going to be some dumb women snookered by her rimless glasses and fading beauty pageant contestant looks.
Posted by: Hardlabour | September 10, 2008, 1:47 am 1:47 am
Patrick,
Look, I think the fundamentallist Christians are nutty as hell . . . but there is a difference. When was the last time they strapped a bomb to thier child & sent him into a crowded bus? There’s nutty, and there’s evil. No lipstick between them.
Posted by: BitterPeopleSuck | September 10, 2008, 1:48 am 1:48 am
Oh, and Christians eat bacon. Can’t trust anyone who doesn’t eat bacon.
Posted by: BitterPeopleSuck | September 10, 2008, 1:49 am 1:49 am
McCain either suffers from PTSD and is being treated by a psychiatrist or, he is suffering in silence. Either way, we should have all the facts regarding his condition on the table so that we can make an informed decision regarding his fitness to serve as the Commander in Chief.
Posted by: Hardlabour | September 10, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am
Hey Willson, great question ! Am I a citizen ?!!! That’s like asking is the sky blue !!! Yeah I’m just as an American citizen as you “think you are”. Give me a break, I post that I’m a Latina for Obama-Biden and god forbid I’m an ILEGAL IMMIGRANT !!! Btw great timing to reach out to all MY FELLOW LATINO LEGAL AMERICAN CITIZENS IN THIS COUNTRY TO UNITE AND VOTE FOR THE PARTY AND LEADER THAT REPRESENTS US BEST AND WILL BRING THE POSITIVE CHANGE THAT OUR COUNTRY NEEDS TO STOP IGNORANT IDIOTS LIKE WILLSON TO QUESTION OUR CITIZENSHIP !!! KNOWLEDGE IS POWER WILLSON, GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS !!!
LATINA FOR
OBAMA-BIDEN 2008-2016
Posted by: Deiby | September 10, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am
• NEWS ALERT • NEWS ALERT •
TRIG PALIN IS THE NEW MESSIAH… GOD SENT A DOWNS SYNDROME BABY AS THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST TO TEST OUR FAITH!
ALL GOOD CHRISTIANS SHOULD MAKE THEIR WAY TO ALASKA NOW!!
Posted by: Patrick | September 10, 2008, 1:53 am 1:53 am
Sarah Piglin’s teenage daughter got knocked-up because Repiglicans don’t believe in teaching Sex Ed, AND FOR A REASON:
If they couldn’t keep the piglets ignorant when they’re still passibly good-looking, REPIGLICANS WOULDN’T BE ABLE TO PROCREATE AT ALL!!
THEY GET SO FAT AND SO UGLY SO FAST!!!
SoooooWEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK
OINK OINK OINK OINK
COUNTRY FIRST!! OBAMA/BIDEN 08!!
Posted by: Ed from MA | September 10, 2008, 1:54 am 1:54 am
Good for McCain. I hope we see more of this from his camp. He had been way to soft of Obama. I am looking foward to him bringing out all the Ayers,Wright,Flager,His muslim faith as stated yesterday on George S show. Also not visiting the wounded troops ect…. Many people were not paying attention to these important issues during the primaries. They will be paying attention now. Sorry Obama supporters but get ready for McCain / Palin in th office. I am so excited! God Bless America!
Posted by: J | September 10, 2008, 1:54 am 1:54 am
what jerk has copied my name and is posting racist junk again?
Posted by: chattyway | September 10, 2008, 1:54 am 1:54 am
Obama’s daughters won’t be in the same situation as Palin’s because they will have abortions. The sooner our kids learn about sex, the sooner they will have sex. McCain is right and Obama is wrong. Since when is it the government’s responsibility to teach kindergarten kids what “appropriate touching” is? are you liberal nut-jobs suggesting that all the kindergarten teachers will perform this task correctly? Just what kind of credentials does one need to BE a kindergarten teacher anyway? How many news stories do we have to see to find out that teachers are regularly MOLESTING CHILDREN??? You are all freaking idiots that place WAY, WAY too much faith in the government and not enough faith in common sense. You liberals completely blow me away with your lack of taking responsibility for your own kids, much less someone else’s. Why don’t you just abort them all and shut up.
Posted by: swandarox | September 10, 2008, 1:54 am 1:54 am
Speaking of PIGS???? Where is George Worthlss Bush???? He is the biggest, fat A** pig in the entire country..And stinks worse than any pig in the world..131 days left for this low life bas*ard..Speaking of PIGS..
Posted by: P-51 jock | September 10, 2008, 1:54 am 1:54 am
THESE ARE VERIFIED QUOTES FROM GOVERNOR SARAH PALIN OVER THE PAST 20+ YEARS (verified from reliable sources and newspapers): “I don’t believe in interracial relationships, I was born in Idaho and raised to believe that whites and blacks shouldn’t mix or date each other” (1986) “I want creationism as the only theory taught in our schools” (2001) “I don’t know a lot about Iran, I just heard that they are bad people” (2006) “He can say he is a christian but as far as I’m concerned, Obama is a muslim, look at his middle name” (2007) “The bible will at some point, be in every classroom in our great state if I have my way” (2005) “Here in Alaska, we don’t have hardly any black people, I never talk to them, so I was surprised that a black girl beat me in the 1984 Miss Alaska pageant”(1988) “Todd and I talked about Hurricane Katrina as God’s way of cleansing New Orleans of the blacks who have sinned, the Bible predicted it” (2005)
Posted by: Patrick | September 10, 2008, 1:58 am 1:58 am
P-51 Jack-off,
You need to get some. Hook up with Patrick or Ed’s fat wives or something (you libs like em fat. More cushion for the pushin).
Posted by: BitterPeopleSuck | September 10, 2008, 1:58 am 1:58 am
These are perverted McCain camp lies. Obama’s plan never allowed for any discussion of sex at all. What it proposed was teaching kids common sense safety lessons. Who would oppose teaching kids everyday safety lessons to keep them safe from predators? The McCain ad, whatever its intention, is pro-pedophile.
Posted by: ElodieStClair | September 10, 2008, 1:58 am 1:58 am
Being ignorant didn’t stop Sarah Piglin’s teenage daughter from getting KNOCKED UP.
Being educated allowed Michelle Obama to wait until she was ready to have two beautiful daughters RESPONSIBLY.
SARAH PIGLIN IS IRRESPONSIBLE AS A PARENT.
COUNTRY FIRST!! OBAMA/BIDEN 08!!
Posted by: Ed from MA | September 10, 2008, 1:59 am 1:59 am
Where’s the supposed “liberal” bias in the media? Why is this and “lipstick” the story and not the fact that Sarah Palin paid herself with taxpayer money to stay in her own house and paid with taxpayer money for kids to go on trips? This is not standard (before the Republicans go off on their spin) and in most states it would be fraud.
Posted by: Dee Dee Lynn | September 10, 2008, 1:59 am 1:59 am
The fact that you poor Obamabots feel a need to play such games as stealing anothers name and posting racist nonsense only again shows how pathetic you and your Messiah of nonsense it.
Posted by: chattyway | September 10, 2008, 2:02 am 2:02 am
CHATTYWAY: Did you know that more than 90% of women who whore were raped by a close family member, e.g., father, uncle or brother? Who got to you? And when you were in the life, were your pimps black? Is that why you hate black men so much? You chose that life, even though you may have been influenced to “go there” because of yuor disfunctional home environment. But look at it like this, if you were haning out with white guys instead of with black men, you would have been victimized by white men–but wait, your tricks were white, right?
Posted by: Hardlabour | September 10, 2008, 2:03 am 2:03 am
BitterPeopleSuck….I have some thing you can suck on..
Posted by: P-51 jock | September 10, 2008, 2:03 am 2:03 am
Did you all see the crowd at the GOP convention all fat white ugly people and only 24% women, 5 % black 2% hispanic
Mostly just old fat white guys
The beautiful people were in Denver the week before
Posted by: Patrick | September 10, 2008, 2:03 am 2:03 am
There are Christian groups that are overtly militant (in philosophy, at least) as well. Go look into “Joel’s Army.” It appears to be a decently sized youth movement that believes they are the last generation before the end times come. And they seem to see themselves as God’s avenging army (they call Jesus the “Dread Champion”.) While they may not be violent yet, they may not have yet had their trigger moment. Who knows what makes them decide “the end times are here, time to get to work”?
They may have actually been the subject of the movie “Jesus Camp.”
Muslim nutty and Christian nutty may be a little different, but they’re both nuts.
Posted by: anon | September 10, 2008, 2:05 am 2:05 am
p-51,
Sorry, I didn’t realize you swung that way. Don’t know any gay guys to set you up with.
Posted by: BitterPeopleSuck | September 10, 2008, 2:05 am 2:05 am
it’s amazing that the republicans preach this crap about ‘family values’…is it me or was every speaker or guest at their convention a hypocrite…first, mccain, while married is running around with cindy, giuliani, the biggest hypocrite of all, was running around (while still in the mayor’s mansion), and those shots of newt were priceless, he left his wife with cancer for a woman over half years his junior…and fred ‘listening to the dems…you would think we were in a depression’ thompson…is married to a woman that could be his daughter…now the gop vp pick unmarried underage daughter is knocked up…but they preach this ‘family values’ crap…i tell you what? is this is the definition of conservative? i would think i would want my children to be informed…there are appropriate ways to teach children…but no nevermind…because under the republican policies the educational system is shambles anyway.
Posted by: nyla | September 10, 2008, 2:08 am 2:08 am
Maybe all the Fundamentalist Christians should move to Alaska and get ready for the second coming… it should happen pretty soon as it is already 8 reays overdue according to scripture… Better get a move on it and get your place in line to heaven
Posted by: Patrick | September 10, 2008, 2:09 am 2:09 am
FAMILY VALUES BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE REPUBLICANS:
* Republican legislator Robert A. McKee pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography.
* Republican legislator Scott Muschany was charged with molesting a 14-year old girl.
* Republican chief of staff Eric Feltner pleaded guilty to showing pornography to a 13-year old girl.
* Republican presidential campaign official Matthew Joseph Elliott was convicted of sexual exploitation of a child.
* Republican Party Chairman Donald Fleischman was charged with two counts of child enticement, two counts of contributing to the delinquency of a child and a single charge of exposing himself to a child.
* Republican prosecutor John David Roy Atchison was arrested for soliciting sex from a 5-year old girl, then killed himself three weeks later. At the time of his arrest, Atchison was an “assistant U.S. attorney” appointed by President Bush’s attorney general.
* Republican city councilman John Bryan killed himself after police began investigating allegations that he had molested three girls, including two of his adopted daughters, ages 12 and 15.
* Republican legislator Ted Klaudt was charged with raping girls under the age of 16.
*Republican city councilman Joseph Monteleone Jr. was found guilty of fondling underage girls.
* Republican congressional aide Jeffrey Nielsen was arrested for having sex with a 14-year old boy.
* Republican County Commissioner Patrick Lee McGuire surrendered to police after allegedly molesting girls between the ages of 8 and 13.
* Republican prosecutor Larry Corrigan was arrested for soliciting sex from 13-year old girls.
* Republican Mayor Jeffrey Kyle Randall was sentenced to 275 days in jail for molesting two boys — ages ten and 12 — during a six-year period.
* Republican County Board Candidate Brent Schepp was charged with molesting a 14-year old girl and killed himself three days later.
* Republican Congressman Mark Foley abruptly resigned from Congress after “sexually explicit” emails surfaced showing him flirting with a 16-year old boy.
* Republican executive Randall Casseday of the conservative Washington Times newspaper pleaded guilty to soliciting sex from a 13-year old girl on the internet.
* Republican chairman of the Oregon Christian Coalition Lou Beres confessed to molesting a 13-year old girl.
* Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd pleaded guilty to charges of soliciting sex from an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.
* Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
* Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy.
* Republican petition drive manager Tom Randall pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 14, one of them the daughter of an associate in the petition business.
* Republican County Chairman Armando Tebano pleaded guilty to fondling a 14-year-old girl.
* Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins pleaded guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.
* Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker is a convicted child molester.
* Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
* Republican Mayor Tom Adams was arrested for distributing child pornography over the internet.
* Republican Mayor John Gosek was arrested on charges of soliciting sex from two 15-year old girls.
* Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
* Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
* Republican Committeeman John R. Curtin was convicted of molesting an underage teenage boy and sentenced to serve six to 18 months in prison.
* Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.
* Republican zoning supervisor, Boy Scout leader and Lutheran church president Dennis L. Rader pleaded guilty to performing a sexual act on an 11-year old girl he murdered.
* Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.
* Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.
* Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
* Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.
* Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
* Republican advertising consultant Carey Lee Cramer was sentenced to six years in prison for molesting two 8-year old girls, one of whom appeared in an anti-Gore television commercial.
* Republican fundraiser Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
* Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
* Republican Congressman Donald “Buz” Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
* Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.
* Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.
* Republican campaign chairman Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child and was arrested again five years later on the same charge.
* Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.
* Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
* Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer.
* Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
* Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.
* Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. “Republican Marty”), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.
* Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.
* Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.
* Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced prison after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
* Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.
* Republican anti-gay activist Earl “Butch” Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.
* Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
* Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.
* Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
* Republican legislator Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).
* Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was found guilty of molesting a 15-year old girl.
* Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.
* Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.
* Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.
* Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.
* Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.
* Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.
* Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.
* Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.
* Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.
* Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a “good military man” and “church goer,” was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.
* Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.
* Republican campaign worker, police officer and self-proclaimed reverend Steve Aiken was convicted of having sex with two underage girls.
* Republican director of the “Young Republican Federation” Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.
* Republican president of the New York City Housing Development Corp. Russell Harding pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer.
* Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was found guilty of raping a 15-year old girl. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.
Posted by: Patrick | September 10, 2008, 2:11 am 2:11 am
BitterPeopleSuck….You will do..Your mouth is shaped right and big enough to take it all.
Posted by: P-51 jock | September 10, 2008, 2:12 am 2:12 am
“Let five year olds be five year old?”
I think that sums up Obama position precisely.
If five year olds ask where a baby comes from, as some five year olds may, tell them to ask their parents.
If some kid inappropriately touches his classmates, make it clear that this behavior is unacceptable.
That is Obama’s position – as far as kindergartners are concerned.
McCain reads something else into Obama’s position.
Apparently McCain is a 72-year old pedophile.
Posted by: A Pig with Lipstick | September 10, 2008, 2:14 am 2:14 am
p-51,
LOL. good that you can take it as well as give it (OK, that sounded bad).
Posted by: BitterPeopleSuck | September 10, 2008, 2:14 am 2:14 am
SARAH PALIN IS A RACIST C*NT. THE ALASKA LEGISLATURE HAD TO PASS A BILL SPECIFICALLY AIMED AT WASILLA AK BANNING THE TOWN FROM CHARGING WOMEN FOR THE RAPE KITS WHEN THEY REPORTED THEY HAD BEEN RAPED. THIS WAS AIMED AT DISSUADING THE NATIVE WOMEN WHO WERE MOST VUNERABLE TO THESE ATTACKS FROM ‘WASTING TOWN RESOURCES’. THIS WOMAN IS SICK!!! AND THE ROTTEN TO THE CORE NEWS MEDIA WON’T EVEN PICK THE STORY UP.
Posted by: Hardlabour | September 10, 2008, 2:16 am 2:16 am
ALthough i am a Republican,i am so disgusted and flabergasted that Papa Mcain could sink so low all because he wants to win at all cost.
I am using this opportunity to call on FELLOW REPULICANS (both rich and poor),independents and the undecided to think about the future of their children and vote for BARRACK OBAMA who has shown maturity and decency so far in this campaign.Apart from these,he has focused on the real issues affecting us instead of distracting us like my party nominees have done so far.
Posted by: Akins | September 10, 2008, 2:20 am 2:20 am
As pointed out by others, the real story here is how ABC News is complicit in this misleading non-issue by emphasizing it in their headline instead of making the headline about the McCain campaign’s lack of ethics.
What can you do about it? The best thing you can do is support your local and national public, non-profit, and independent media, and simply opt out from corporate media and ignore their ads.
Posted by: rsarsa | September 10, 2008, 2:20 am 2:20 am
Is it appropriate to tell a child a bird brought him to you until you become pregnant and then you explain what’s in Mommy’s belly and then…confusion. In George Bush’s administration you would note that these overexposed, sexually charged bleep-filled tv shows have flourished though somehow Republicans will blame that on Congress for the last eight years. When Bush didn’t like Bill Maher he got him fired. If he wasn’t comfortable with talking about sex on the disney channel and showing optically tampered versions of young girls having sex on the WB. On the YES network a blue smily type face who represents car insurance says “[Beep]‘em. What you can’t say [Beep]?” No. You can’t. And I’m a 21 year old lover of ALL things green and skunk-like but I don’t agree with everything Bush has allowed tv to expose us to. So now how do we deal with this new world and consciousness that parents must be seeing when they look at the Pussycat Dolls and Girlicious wearing skirts made out of saran wrap? We educate our children to keep up with the change in our culture. If it was a good change I’m sure George Bush and the Republicans would have stopped the flooding of sex and tolerance of tv nakedness. So now we don’t shy away from the images thrust at young children when their parents watch tv or the parent who doesn’t care what their child watches or the child who doesn’t care if their parent cares…I knew about my ‘gina (jiynah) from my mommy as a baby girl. I knew where it was and that it was mine. Not every parent would tell their child that because they are afraid of I dunno…truth. Or as has happened so many times in the lives of young children who do not yet understand that their body does not belong to every adult that surrounds them. We have to think of the stories that people don’t dare to read because they’re too caught up with “Maverick, Change, Change, Maverick, Bridge, Thanks, Maverick, No Thanks, My Friends. Maverick. My Opponent. Veto Pen. Their Names. Hahaha Unions, Middle Class, Universal Healthcare. Maverick. Change.” You know all those Palin and McCain issues they keep reiterating verbatim as if my 21 year old memory is a subdued as McCain’s. People forgot about the little girl whose older brother was always laying with her “Toys” and she didn’t like it. It hurt when he played with her toys she said. The girl was four and had severe scar tissue in the areas Republicans are afraid to talk about. Maybe when she had told her mother “He’s always playing with my toys!” the first fifteen times she wouldn’t have reminded her fourteen year old son of the new action figures she had just bought him. She would have gotten him therapy in another county and not continued to have him babysit. I’m speaking as a sister and a victim of sexual abuse. I’m speaking as someone who was thrust into the care of my foster brother who was 16 when I was 9 and my sister was 4. If I had a teacher in school who perhaps I could have spoken with because she had introduced certain topics maybe it wouldn’t have lasted until I was 10. When you are a child any adult, any person who is bigger, stronger and more intimidating than you hold the power to manipulate and abuse that vulnerability. I knew what sex was in fourth grade. that’s just how the world is…I also knew what pain was. But I didn’t know that I could tell someone and they could help me. I just thought okay he’s gonna do it again…Do you know what kind of box that is? How could I talk to my teacher about whether or not it was okay to be touched by this boy since he often babysat me and everyone around us thought the world of him. Maybe if she had told me that it was not okay for anyone just because they were bigger to hurt me anytime they want. Someone was there to listen to me if anything should happen like inappropriate touching. When it happened I didn’t tell my teacher. I told my friends who at the time were also 9. We learned about sex Ed in gym class, from each other. Kids curse. They lie and they steal and they look at Playboy when you’re not looking. They should know what they are and what is theirs and what can’t be touched. I see nothing wrong with teaching a child the truth about their bodies. By all means don’t show them the latest Amber Alerts but don’t assume that danger is not lurking in all places including your home or even a home that the government puts you into as young children in foster care forced to live with a sadistic 16 year old who flushed kittens down the toilet as we watched and made turtles explode in the microwave. This world is not all fluff and Bridge To Nowhere fluff. John McCain seemed to look over Barack’s daughter when he considered his ad. But after all his running mate did say that even though at the time her daughter was fourteen if she should be raped and become pregnant then the child would be a gift from god. And should her daughter be younger and of reproductive age (though girls as young as 8 are regularly menstruating)and she is sexually abused by a relative she would be expected to keep that child. I wouldn’t be surprised if she made her marry him. You guys can have your Mars Attacks looking, spend $400,000 dollars in public funding to shoot wolves from airplanes with assault rifles after her state said it was y’know disgusting, cowardly, homicidal…, blatant reformer on actual truth who has only accomplished lying in her first two weeks as a possible new governmental screw up. Ontheissues.com should reveal the actual plans Barack has set forth. It would also be exciting to check out how much nothing Governor Palin has to say on it education considering her state has a catastrophic record on education progress. Or how about the Native Americans in her state feeling left out and rallying against the former beauty queen who lost to a Black woman whose first announcement to the press was not written by Carl Rove or recited several dozen times and then repeated every single day in a different jacket. This lady was paying herself to sleep at home…60 dollars a night. For real…People listen to the things that matter. Vouchers are not going to help the child in Bed Stuy whose parent is not going to take them to the better school in Manhattan. We need to make all schools better for all children. John McCain isn’t even fertile anymore why do we want him to keep our children safe. From what not knowing that your vagina is not “toys” just because someone older who you trusted told you that? Sex Ed, history, dance, piano, soccer, math, science, evolution, climate change, and Republicans sucking seem to me a fine list of studies all American children should learn. Why don’t you ask your candidate to talk about things that will actually matter next week not that he’ll take the veto pen that he had rehearsed finding so many times he lost it in his own front pocket embarrassing his practiced speech. We get it…you’re tired of the Me First, Country Second, Maverick, Change, Change Maverick, Hockey mom, Change Is Coming, Shake Things Up, Properly Vetted, Sexist. They want to put out ads about sex Ed before learning to read while Sarah palin tried to fire Wasilla’s 7 librarian of seven years after asking her about banning books on three separate occasions which include her famous emails until the town told Sarah to cut it out. That didn’t stop her from firing the police commissioner with 22 years experience, museum director and financial planner all within her first year as Mayor. She sued President Bush for putting polar Bears on the endangered species list. These are actual proven truths people. Skim over the words if you must but understand that these two people have repeated the same lines that worked at their convention for all of those culturally diverse people who represent the America they come from. The place where they live so far from one another and act so phony at church that they don’t even have communities for community organizers to help. This people tired me. If you have the internet use it to actually research things. The news can not tell you everything that you cannot with some will tell yourself. You might like Barack if you were to listen to him a
nd not just his name or horrible Curious George comments. This is America. Different types of humans live here. Alaska is like a freaking barren tundra save for some paranoid wolves who seem to always be looking above them just incase their great governor decides to riddle them with some AK shells all in the name of “God’s pipeline” How about her writing a letter to her family who didn’t even know she was “pregnant” with Bristol’s baby until everyone else found out at her 7 month (including her children she admitted…after 7 months and did not mention until 14 year old Willow said he looked like he had Down’s syndrome…?) Republicans do not make us safer by showing “9/11 videos” and insulting New Yorkers like myself and Americans everywhere. You wanna do something…”smoke ;em out of his hole!” Go to those Poppy fields you don’t want to drop bombs on because they would interrupt the daily profit of the war on “drugs”. Y’know the ones that surround your boy. That guy…Osama..oh yeah =, you don’t want to go after him because he is your boy. After all whose Daddy gave him assault weapons to kill the Russians? And after all, it’s been 7 years and the attack son September 11th are still not listed among the crimes he is wanted for on your own most wanted list. This is a sad example of the impact of Racism. Community organizer is sort of like a PTA member, a city commissioner, a Mayor of a town whose Time Square is a bar with a windmill and one truck except that Sarah Palin left Wasilla in debt of $22 million dollars for the Hockey Rink to Nowhere But 25% Tax Increases. She built rushed it to be built on land she did not take the time to consider was not owned by Wasilla. But she didn’t care. While Wasilla was being sued by the true owner who now found an 11-22 Million Dollar Hockey Center for Sarah Palin’s one son who is now 19 on his property, Sarah was sailing on a gubernatorial campaign funded by her murder buddies the NRA. Next time she should ask them to fund her campaign to kill wolves from airplanes while they run away in fear because Dr. Palin believes they are interfering with the amount of caribou and moose who are willing to come out so she can see them better to shoot them and field dress them in front of her children. Did she ever consider not having a newborn with mental disability (which as of yet have not been completely determined considering his infancy) not surrounded for four days with thousands of people screaming “Drill Baby Drill!” and “Hockey Mom!” into his delicate eardrums. Not to mention aren’t intelligent people taught not to take newborns to farmer’s markets, malls, even McDonalds’ play areas are dangerous for toddlers. Yet Dr. Palin believes that it is age appropriate to subject an infant to pass-the-baby-we’re-on-tv and grabbing him like a prop and mouthing to all of us who have researched enough to cuz you to state that “This is my baby…”Wow did you just open yourself up to further scrutiny. I can’t believe she wrote to her family as the voice of God the day she paused her schedule long enough to have the baby saying Trig is a blessing for us “down there on earth” unlike Sarah who is clearly not here with us. Sorry…I know I’ve ranted like seventeen paragraphs and no ones gonna read this but c=just consider issues and not just am I still afraid of black people. If you want to know someone’s values look at their children. Barack and Michelle’s girls are sweet, intelligent and well mannered. Megan McCain actually said that her family was “the only family that really knows about war. Seriously.” Check out the Anchorage Daily News. Read people. Learn. Know.The Issues matter. Not snow mobiling and rpivate chefs who were never really fired. I’m a 21 year old African American, native American, and Irish American. But after being a woman I am always an American and I am more interested in how these people plan to structure a world where I would feel comfortable to raise my children and love them if they are gay straight, purple or poor. I want to know that I am voting for much more than whether I like the person but even then i can only stand someone saying the same words everyday in different states for like one time by accident. This repeptitiveness is to make you placent. You believe you know where they stand on issues because of a veto pen and a bridge she stopped but kept the moeny for and used some to build a road to the same place. Don’t worry…I’m done. I’m as tired as you are. Vote for reality. NOt that B rated Maverick Movie. Gourmet Zombie Chef From Hell was better than the crap the GOP is trying to pitch with their own president currently handing off responsibility for the next president five months before he should even have the nerve. Don’t sell 9/11 a some awesome achievement please. Let us grieve without Republican capitalism (ie Sears buying the name of the first attack battalion to Iraq though our citizens died under that name and do not deserve to be exploited but the current administration sold it…)
Posted by: Amber | September 10, 2008, 2:25 am 2:25 am
Is sex education a topic that the McCain / Palin tickets wants to go after? I guess they are still trying to pin her as a great mother for supporting her daughter. I live in Illinois and my youngest child is in preschool. All three of my children attended a private preschool and had a conversation about inappropriate behavior and how they should talk to a parent. This is what Obama is talking about. The intention was not to inform them of sex. The McCain campaign is also failing to mention that the law that was passed was also inteded to place more restrictions on sex offenders. I would defend this bill until my death. Child predators are a serious and dangerous threat and as a father Obama realizes this. The republicans are making me sick. If a teenage daughter of a democratic candidate was pregnant the republicans and Rush Limbaugh would be having a hayday calling her every name under the sun. Only a republican would try to make someone believe that a person would actually teach sex education to a five or six year old. I hope all the spin McCain is trying to throw at the public comes back to bite him in the a**.
Obama / Biden 08
Posted by: mstotten | September 10, 2008, 2:26 am 2:26 am
This blog continues to have >so call experts< posting that can not chew gum and walk a straight line at the same time. Were in the world do some of you pull your trash from all the time?
Posted by: William | September 10, 2008, 2:27 am 2:27 am
Sarah Palin’s husband is a self-avowed secessionist. Bet you won’t hear about that on the campaign trail. What the Democrats need is some good 527 groups–with me controlling the content of their ads. Bet you a million dollars against a glazed donut I would beat Palin’s panties up her rump.
Posted by: Hardlabour | September 10, 2008, 2:28 am 2:28 am
Akins–you are SO right.
I keep seeing headlines about the McCain campaign’s invariably outraged/offended/apalled reactions to things Obama & Biden say.
The McCain campaign is overtly playing the media, throwing them these overly dramatic reaction bones and the media keeps biting. All they give a crap about is a sensational headline and ad revenue. This is why I only trust NPR.
I wish reporters still had some remnant of integrity and commitment to actual news reporting.
Posted by: Liz | September 10, 2008, 2:31 am 2:31 am
The circus is in town when you listen to some of this stuff. I really wonder if anyone can take this man seriously? Stay with BHO and we will have our prisons serving cookies and milk in our prison system.
Posted by: William | September 10, 2008, 2:31 am 2:31 am
I find it insulting to women that the McCaint camp picked a woman based solely on the advantage of votes rather than the interest of the American people. The disturbing thing about this headline is that the GOP is trying to juxtapose Obama to that of a pedophile while the pig with lipstick holds her baby! McCain is desperate and he may have recieved a temporary bump in the polls but I have faith that the American people aren’t stupid.
What Obama stands for and what this man can do for our future superceeds any limited experience he may be accused of having.
And Bidens interview on “Meet the Press”-WOW! Every American should see that interview! Biden is a man who doesn’t take crap from anyone and stands firm. I love Obama’s pick.
Posted by: Obamatized | September 10, 2008, 2:32 am 2:32 am
do u people hate Sen. Obama that much that you would accuse him of wanting to teach our kids and his kids indecent sex ed.Obama said age-appropiate sex ed. our kids are being destroyed for lack of knowledge.Obama have little ones himself and i dont beleive for one moment that he would expose them to some fifth that most of you all are thinking of. vote dem08
Posted by: alinVA | September 10, 2008, 2:37 am 2:37 am
McSame is lying (again). The legislation Barack Obama supported reads:
“Each class or course in comprehensive sex education offered in any of grades K through 12 shall include instruction on the prevention of sexually transmitted infections, including the prevention, transmission and spread of HIV.”
As you can see, the bill would simply add instruction on disease prevention to already existing Illinois sex-ed standards.
Posted by: Will | September 10, 2008, 2:37 am 2:37 am
ALL MEDIA SHOULD BE FIRED IF THIS STORY IS NOT SLASHED & BURNED:
The fact PalinMcBush have been allowed to spur such salacious bull without being called by all media networks is beyond comprehension.
Saying Barack wanted to teach sex education to kindergartner’s is sickening. The Rethuglican party is truly the party of lies, fears and smears. This old geezer talks about honor and love for his country– please, give me a break. If McCain really loved this country he wouldn’t have been in lock-step with Bush 90% of the time and as a result help assist in damaging the American people’s spirits.
McCain needs to man up and talk about the issues [oh, that's right-- his RECORD sucks on the ISSUES & his campaign adviser did say this election wasn't going to be about the issues that the American people care about] and stop standing behind that political woman pick he says is ready the be president if something should happen to him.
I was taught that liars shortened their days, and by the looks of it McCain doesn’t have many left. I hope Palin is ready on day one.
['I'm John McCain and I approve lies, fears, and smear... And so does my running mate Sarah Palin and the republican administration.' 'Did we do good Karl Rove?']
Posted by: Lee-- Dallas, TX | September 10, 2008, 2:38 am 2:38 am
ALL MEDIA SHOULD BE FIRED IF THIS STORY IS NOT SLASHED & BURNED:
The fact PalinMcBush have been allowed to spur such salacious bull without being called by all media networks is beyond comprehension.
Saying Barack wanted to teach sex education to kindergartner’s is sickening. The Rethuglican party is truly the party of lies, fears and smears. This old geezer talks about honor and love for his country– please, give me a break. If McCain really loved this country he wouldn’t have been in lock-step with Bush 90% of the time and as a result help assist in damaging the American people’s spirits.
McCain needs to man up and talk about the issues [oh, that's right-- his RECORD sucks on the ISSUES & his campaign adviser did say this election wasn't going to be about the issues that the American people care about] and stop standing behind that political woman pick he says is ready the be president if something should happen to him.
I was taught that liars shortened their days, and by the looks of it McCain doesn’t have many left. I hope Palin is ready on day one.
['I'm John McCain and I approve lies, fears, and smears... And so does my running mate Sarah Palin and the republican administration.' 'Did we do good Karl Rove?']
Posted by: Lee-- Dallas, TX | September 10, 2008, 2:40 am 2:40 am
Hey ABC.
Do Your Job and take these lying republicans to task!
Will Charlie have the stones to ask McCain and Palin if they think this is an appropriate ad?
Posted by: sergio | September 10, 2008, 2:42 am 2:42 am
When is Palin, going to teach her daughters to keep their legs crossed??
And McBush’s, cancer must be growing. His head is bigger in every picture you see of him..And he has that dased, deer in the headlights look in every picture..Or is he just looking at Palin’s, butt and wishing??? Cindy hang on it may be a rough ride..You knew he was a “slug” when you married him..
Posted by: P-51 jock | September 10, 2008, 2:46 am 2:46 am
ABC News should be ashamed for the way they display this article on their site.
The headline would make one think that Obama was actually for teaching kindergartners sex education when it is legislation that would enable teachers to protect children. It is only until you read through half of the article (which many don’t) that you get to the heart of the article that it is actually a McCain smear tactic.
Shame on ABC for sensationalist tactics. Typical of the Corporate American Press…
Posted by: anim367 | September 10, 2008, 2:48 am 2:48 am
It’s time for the media to DO THEIR JOBS and challenge this behavior by McCain in no uncertain terms.
This is the most despicable act of character assassination I have ever seen in American politics, and that includes Willie Horton and swiftboating.
Obama has to take this on, threaten to sue, and demand a retraction of the ad and an apology.
Voters who allow McCain to win with this kind of behavior deserve to lose their houses under his administration.
This is disgusting.
Posted by: Di | September 10, 2008, 2:51 am 2:51 am
Is this one of the changes that Americans expect to see from Obama on education?, Sex education in elementary school? Come on!. Oooooh! So, to improve education and for schools to receive more funds, they have to expand sex education to younger children!. Will somebody ask Obama what he is going to do with bad teachers? Keep them or fire them? I have heard that some teachers were fired because they did not want to joint the teachers’ union.
Posted by: no child left behind ext. | September 10, 2008, 2:54 am 2:54 am
Is this one of the changes that Americans expect to see from Obama on education?, Sex education in elementary school? Come on!. Oooooh! So, to improve education and for schools to receive more funds, they have to expand sex education to younger children!. Will somebody ask Obama what he is going to do with bad teachers? Keep them or fire them? I have heard that some teachers were fired because they did not want to joint the teachers’ union.
Posted by: no child left behind ext. | September 10, 2008, 2:55 am 2:55 am
McCain & Palin are beyond sick! For all McCain’s blubbering about running a clean campaign months ago, he must have really gotten senile in his old age.
Posted by: Pat | September 10, 2008, 3:12 am 3:12 am
AGE APPROPRIATE… AGE APPROPRIATE… LET’S SAY IT TOGETHER EVERYONE! That is the part that everyone is missing here. Let’s suppose you have a five year old. A janitor cleaning the bathroom at when she enters it says to her, ‘let’s make a banana split sweetie. I have the banana and you have the cup. When I put my banana in your cup…’ Get it? This kid, in this case, needs to know a). what (on a kids level)is really happening, b). that her body part is not a cup and his is not a banana. Think outside of the box America! For once stop thinking like an adult and think like an innocent child. The banana split sounds okay in their minds! Obama blatantly suggests ‘age-appropriate sex-ed’ not just sex education. There is a difference.
I sure hope all of us voting for McCain are right about our pick. I nightmares occassionaly when I think about how I really don’t want to be in the same position as the 2004 Bush supporters-regretting their choice and saying they made a mistake; they didn’t know he would do the things he did. FOUR YEARS IS A LONG TIME!
I’m on the verge of jumping fence and joining the team who is addressing the issues. I have many Repub friends who already have. The McCain/Palin ticket has not discussed 1 issue during the convention nor afterwards. Food for thought.
Posted by: swankyone | September 10, 2008, 3:15 am 3:15 am
There’s a tendency to think children are ignorant of sex at Kindergarten age but as we know that is not the case. The education would match their age group. At 30 my daughter admitted that at five she was sexually abused by a neighbor but really didn’t know what was going on. Children need to know.
Posted by: Amanda | September 10, 2008, 3:18 am 3:18 am
I am posting part of the bill for your reading delight.
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(b) All public elementary, junior high, and senior high
school classes that teach sex education and discuss sexual
activity or behavior intercourse shall emphasize that
abstinence is an effective method of preventing unintended is
the expected norm in that abstinence from sexual intercourse
is the only protection that is 100% effective against
unwanted teenage pregnancy, sexually transmitted diseases,
and HIV acquired immune deficiency syndrome (AIDS) when
transmitted sexually.
…
“Medically accurate” means verified or supported by
research conducted in compliance with scientific methods,
published in peer-review journals, where appropriate, and
recognized as accurate and objective by professional
organizations and agencies with expertise in the relevant
field.
All sex education courses that discuss sexual activity or
behavior intercourse shall satisfy the following criteria:
(1) Factual information presented in course
material and instruction shall be medically accurate and
objective.
(2) All (1) course material and instruction shall
be age and developmentally appropriate.
(3) Course material and instruction shall include a
discussion of sexual abstinence as a method to prevent
unintended pregnancy and sexually transmitted infections,
including HIV.
(4) Course material and instruction shall present
the latest medically factual information regarding both
the possible side effects and health benefits of all
forms of contraception, including the success and failure
rates for the prevention of pregnancy and sexually
transmitted infections, including HIV.
(5) Course material and instruction shall include a
discussion of the possible consequences of unintended
pregnancy and sexually transmitted infections, including
HIV.
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So see the full bill here and then make reasonable comments
Posted by: Neutral Man | September 10, 2008, 3:20 am 3:20 am
Obama should be jailed for this. Children at the age of 4 and 5 do not understand at this age, and it would be almost like exposing them to pornography.
And its NOT the governments job to teach our children about sexual education. They are NOT raising our kids, and our kids do NOT belong to them.
Nobama should be jailed.
Posted by: Vipyr | September 10, 2008, 3:20 am 3:20 am
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/fulltext.asp?DocName=&SessionId=3&GA=93&DocTypeId=SB&DocNum=99&GAID=3&LegID=734&SpecSess=&Session=
Posted by: Neutral Man | September 10, 2008, 3:21 am 3:21 am
AGE APPROPRIATE… AGE APPROPRIATE… LET’S SAY IT TOGETHER EVERYONE! That is the part that everyone is missing here. Let’s suppose you have a five year old. A janitor cleaning the bathroom when she enters it says to her, ‘let’s make a banana split sweetie. I have the banana and you have the cup. When I put my banana in your cup…’ Get it? This kid, in this case, needs to know a). what (on a K-5 kids level) is really happening, b). that her body part is not a cup and his is not a banana. Think outside of the box America! For once stop thinking like an adult and think like an innocent child. Teaching this kid, ‘if someone touches your body in an..’ does nothing for her because making the banana split sounds okay in the mind of a child this age! Obama blatantly suggests ‘age-appropriate sex-ed’ not just sex education. There is a difference.
I sure hope all of us voting for McCain are right about our pick. I occassionally have nightmares when I think about how I really don’t want to be in the same position as the 2004 Bush supporters-regreting their choice and saying they made a mistake; they didn’t know he would do the things he did. FOUR YEARS IS A LONG TIME!
I’m on the verge of jumping fence and joining the team who is addressing the issues. I have many Repub friends who already have. The McCain/Palin ticket has not discussed 1 issue during the convention nor afterwards. Food for thought.
Posted by: swankyone | September 10, 2008, 3:34 am 3:34 am
McCain/Palin campaign messages are all about personalities and trying to be cute. Obama/Biden campaign messages are all about important issues and concerns for peoples lives on a daily basis. Plain and simple. If anyone will still vote based on personalities are either STUPID or with LESS INTELLIGENCE! Just look what happened to this country over the last 8 years.
Posted by: junior111 | September 10, 2008, 3:42 am 3:42 am
This is the first time I’ve ever read public comments about a news story, and you all have me really, really scared for my country and our future.
How hateful and divisive most of you are.
And nary a mention of the many ways our economy, our military, our constitution, our judiciary, our health care system,our infrastructure, our educational system, our tax system,and on and on, are circling the drain after 8 years of neglect and cronyism at the top.
This is cynical distraction, folks. Get the have-nots to fight over the bones the fat cats leave behind, and they’ll never notice what they’re missing.
Wake up! Pay attention to the real decisions that are affecting our lives and our standing in the world, read, watch, listen to primary sources, get informed, and stop this nonsense.
Posted by: Flabbergasted | September 10, 2008, 3:52 am 3:52 am
I am amazed at how ignorant people are about an election. You have 2 republican that believe in taking away sooo many right from people. Will affect people lives in so many ways. In addition, believe that a war is in the best interest of the country! How silly can some people be! How many young men and women have to loose their lives before people see the light! How many people have to loose their houses and jobs before people stop focusing on silly things!!!!! Grow up and look at the fact and the substance of this election and stop wasting time and writing stupid comments!!!
Posted by: Amazed | September 10, 2008, 3:56 am 3:56 am
Mccain is low. will you lie to your 3years 4year 5years kid when they ask you where they from? I am a christian but it damn stupid to tell these they from heaven when they sincerely want to know how they came into being.Its morally appropriate to tell them Mom and dad produce them.That is sex education. It makes no sense to lie as if we trying to protect them something wrong.
Posted by: krist | September 10, 2008, 4:04 am 4:04 am
I am jusr curious.all them Mccain talks about his, his services in teh arm.That will not change the
Posted by: krist | September 10, 2008, 4:09 am 4:09 am
How do kindergarteners know about sex? At this age, they should be taught “reading/writing/and arithmetic”. This is a job for parents — not teachers.
THE OBAMA CAMP IS RUNNING AROUND LIKE CHICKENS WITH THEIR HEADS CUT OFF!
BIDEN SAID, “A WOMAN ON THE TICKET IS A STEP BACK FOR WOMEN”???? IS HE NUTS?
OBAMA HAS SENT A SMALL ARMY OF 30 LAWYERS AND INVESTIGATORS TO ALASKA TO “VET” GOVERNOR SARAH PALIN.
HAD THE DNC AND BIASED MEDIA PROPERLY “VETTED” OBAMA — HILLARY WOULD BE THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE.
WHY IS OBAMA ATTACKING HIS OPPONENT’S #2 PERSON ON THE TICKET? SHE’S NOT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. JOHN McCAIN IS.
WHY IS OBAMA ATTACKING PRESIDENT BUSH? HE’S NOT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. JOHN McCAIN IS.
YOU CAN SEND AN “IDIOT” TO HARVARD — BUT HE’S STILL AN “IDIOT”!
I’M VOTING FOR THE HONORABLE JOHN S. McCAIN IN NOVEMBER!
Posted by: OBAMA-bin-BIDEN! HA! | September 10, 2008, 4:10 am 4:10 am
If McCain and Palin will say that the earth is SQUARE. How many people will believe them? This presidential election is really becoming creepy.
Posted by: junior111 | September 10, 2008, 4:12 am 4:12 am
The old John McCain? Which one:
1959 John: The wild man who partied like a lunatic and graduated near the bottom of his class.
1969 John: War hero. Got shot down; I’m not saying that he should have taken his training more seriously, but crashing 5 planes? Anybody can have bad luck in war, but you have to work hard first to make me feel sorry for you.
1979 John: Ditched his first wife to marrying into a powerful, wealthy, connected organized crime family so he could make a career change and go into politics
1989 John: After cavorting in the Caymans with Keating – of Savings and Loan Scandal infamy – gets caught pocketing $112,000 (and doesn’t report it to the IRS). Gets off scot-free
1999 John: Uses campaign finance reform to whitewash his influence peddling sins and runs for President as a maverick
2008 John: Embraces Bush’s tax cuts, the far right religious agents of intolerance, a right wing looney as VP who believes in using science to find the oil but not to clean up the mess from oil, who believes in using science to protect her personal health but not our shared planet.
McCain is a fraud who lies, cheats and steals
Posted by: Tim | September 10, 2008, 4:18 am 4:18 am
McCain is ALL for the New Plug-IN Hybrid Electric Car and has also posted a large reward for a Company that can Extend the Range of the Electric Car Battery. OBAMA has rarely ridden in a Car, as he grew up, and still only rides on the BUS. I will now vote for the Palin/McCain Ticket, who wants to Eliminate our Need for Cars requiring any Arab OIL. OBAMA does not seem to recognize the fact that his ARAB buddies are Raping the American Consumer. Is OBAMA Retarded ?
Posted by: Steve ONeill | September 10, 2008, 5:01 am 5:01 am
Did Obama teach his kids about sex before they know how to read?
I feel he hurry to attack Sarah because her effects by anyway, anyhow. Please think twice before speak. Thanks
Posted by: James770 | September 10, 2008, 5:01 am 5:01 am
HONESTLY IT IS DISGUSTING THAT MCCAIN IS ALLOWED TO GET AWAY WITH THESE THINGS. HE HAS FULLY ADOPTED KARL ROVE’S POLITICS. HEY HERE IS AN EXPRESSION OBAMA SHOULD USE TOWARDS MCCAIN, “IF YOU LAY DOWN WITH DOGS YOU ARE GOING TO GET UP WITH FLEES.” SINCE GOV PALIN REFERS TO HERSELF AS A PITBULL SHE CAN INCLUDE HERSELF. THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE BOTHERED BY CHILDREN BEING TAUGHT TO KNOW WHEN THEY ARE BEING IMPROPERLY TOUCHED IS CHILD MOLESTERS. THAT IS A VERY SERIOUS THING TO ACCUSE SOMEONE OF. WHETHER YOU ARE REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT OR WHATEVER, NO ONE SHOULD MAKE FUN, TAKE LIGHTLY, OR LIE ABOUT SOMETHING SO SERIOUS!!!!!! MCCAIN HAS GONE TO A NEW LOW.
Posted by: Nicole | September 10, 2008, 5:02 am 5:02 am
Palin and McCain look so cute together. Question is, Will they actually campaign alone?
Posted by: terrell | September 10, 2008, 5:02 am 5:02 am
I’m just turned that she isn’t allowed to do interviews until she is ready.
Posted by: terrell | September 10, 2008, 5:06 am 5:06 am
I cannot see McCain’s ad! The link actually goes to 0bama’s ad that supposedly linked at the botom… Arrghh…
Posted by: amartya | September 10, 2008, 5:07 am 5:07 am
turned off
Posted by: terrell | September 10, 2008, 5:09 am 5:09 am
The crazies are out tonight including Hardlabour-one of Obama’s paid smear people. I also read the bill and it does not differ much between sex education for a kindergartner and high school student. I found out the hard way that government does not always know best about a 5 year old and sex education. Does Chicago and New Orleans schools have sex education? If they do, it is not working. Unfortunately 72% of AA babies are born to unwed moms and over 50% get some sort of govt. hand outs. Other ethic groups have less babies, unmarried and married. Senator Obama does not seem to have the experience and judgment needed to make sound decisions on children, education, jobs, energy, foreign affairs, etc.
I certainly do not want my country turned over to a socialist/communist with terrorists, criminals and crazies as his associates. I want a President who believes in the Constitution, traditional values, individual responsibility and the same rights and privileges for all. I do not want a liar named Obama in the White House.
Posted by: Granny | September 10, 2008, 5:10 am 5:10 am
Maybe if Sarah had sent her own daughter to a Kindergarten sex ed class, the campaign would be more issue-focused.
Posted by: Greg | September 10, 2008, 5:12 am 5:12 am
People, people, people, don’t you realize that no education is a good education. Why else would John McCain have chosen Sarah Palin?
Posted by: ziadora | September 10, 2008, 5:15 am 5:15 am
Obama needs to come out and be angry about this because its a disgraceful attack, preying on peoples ignorance of the education system and what the law was saying.
Posted by: markymark | September 10, 2008, 5:19 am 5:19 am
Without doubt, Obama/Biden are going to have to fight tough and hard.
Posted by: ziadora | September 10, 2008, 5:23 am 5:23 am
Sex Ed in Kindergarten? Calling a women a pig in lipstick? As a women I’m done with Obama.
Posted by: sue | September 10, 2008, 5:34 am 5:34 am
Get a clue McSame!! Muddying the waters to take the focus off of the real issues will not work. Guess your’re not a maverick after all. What are your plans to improve the economy,bring jobs back to our country, bringing our troops home etc.
Posted by: Tinah | September 10, 2008, 5:38 am 5:38 am
Sue you got that right, stick a fork in him, he’s done! Palin 2012!…But 1st McCain & Palin 2008!
Posted by: Sharon | September 10, 2008, 5:38 am 5:38 am
I see that the Republicans are up to their old tricks again with a blatant appeal to the right wing religious fanatics that have hijacked the Republican Party. They have nothing substantial so they trot out the old hot button issue of sex education in order to distract the voters from the real issues confronting our country. Gay bashing and terrorist fear mongering cannot be far behind. Obviously the abstinence only sex education that the Republicans favor does not work as evidenced the rising number of teenage pregnancies. Age appropriate sex education for children of all ages would go a long way toward keeping our young people safe from unwanted pregnancy and sexually transmitted disease and how could that be a bad thing? Perhaps if more parents would do their job in educating their children about sexual matters the schools would not have to do it. The Republicans need to start addressing the real issues that confront us instead of this Carl Rovian slight of hand, fear and hate mongering that for them passes for political discourse, but I guess when you have nothing better you have to resort to nonsense to try and fool the electorate.
Posted by: Brian, Atlanta, GA | September 10, 2008, 5:44 am 5:44 am
If the government bans sex-ed in schools, then your teenage daughter is far more likely to become pregant. Uh, never mind McCain.
Posted by: Bob | September 10, 2008, 5:44 am 5:44 am
Polls are showing McCain now beating him by 6 to 8 points. Bye bye NObama. The kiddies have had enough fun but now its time for the grown ups to take over.
Posted by: Denise | September 10, 2008, 5:47 am 5:47 am
Tell ya what, Ms Palin’s kids certainly need sex education. Hunting & Humping doesn’t equal good sex education.
Posted by: Trish | September 10, 2008, 6:28 am 6:28 am
Keep up the “lipstick on a pig” zingers, libs. It’s a brilliant political strategy! :)
Osama’s ship is sinking faster than the Titanic.
Posted by: Hostile Knowledge | September 10, 2008, 6:28 am 6:28 am
It ain’t over til the fat lady sings — and there has never been an election where a candidate so far ahead over the summer has not bounced back to win.
If you really believe mccain is a sure thing, you can double your money at InTrade by betting on him. Go ahead, I dare you. Won’t do it will you? That is how sure you are of it.
Put your money where you mouth is and shut up. My money is on obama and I’ll be laughing all the way to the bank.
PS: I dont’ give a damn about politics, I just make money on the horse race…. lots of money.
Posted by: FatLady | September 10, 2008, 6:30 am 6:30 am
“I had learned not to care. I blew a few smoke rings, remembering those years. Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it. Not smack, though.”
~ Barack Hussein Osama
A coke snorting pot head wants to be president…
Posted by: Hostile Knowledge | September 10, 2008, 6:36 am 6:36 am
Obama’s New Sharper Message For Winning Women’s Hearts
http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=28812
Posted by: LightSeeker | September 10, 2008, 6:40 am 6:40 am
Yup! Osama has a brilliant strategy for charming the ladies. Over at the Hillary forum they are ripping him to shreds…
Posted by: Hostile Knowledge | September 10, 2008, 6:44 am 6:44 am
Read the text of the legislation he endorsed, people. This is one terribly written piece of legislation. It *requires* instruction as to the prevention of STDs if sex education is taught under this provision, but also *requires* it be age appropriate. I can see why it didn’t pass.
That may not be what Senator Obama *meant* to do, but that’s what the legislation says. As a Harvard Law grad, he should know how to recognize terrible legislation. Guilty of what the McCain ad say? Probably not, but he is guilty of not thinking. To me, that is far worse.
13 such pupil. Each class or course in comprehensive sex
14 education offered in any of grades K through 12 shall
15 include instruction on the prevention of sexually transmitted
16 infections, including the prevention, transmission and spread
17 of HIV. Nothing in this Section prohibits instruction in
18 sanitation, hygiene or traditional courses in biology.
Full text of the legislation here.
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/fulltext.asp?DocName=&SessionId=3&GA=93&DocTypeId=SB&DocNum=99&GAID=3&LegID=734&SpecSess=&Session=
Posted by: Ray | September 10, 2008, 6:46 am 6:46 am
Actually, we’ve already got a coke snorting president — only this one lied about it. But it is pretty much common knowledge that he did it.
Posted by: TooLate | September 10, 2008, 6:47 am 6:47 am
Actually, we’ve already got a coke snorting president — only this one lied about it. But it is pretty much common knowledge that he did it.
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Really? Then please, share that “common knowledge” with the rest of us. Sources, please.
Posted by: Hostile Knowledge | September 10, 2008, 6:50 am 6:50 am
If you vote for McCain, he has said we will probably have a draft. He has even said this explicitly, but no one remembers it — or seems to care (of course he has said the opposite too, but I remember both). I keep reminding people of it, but no one wants to hear it. I don’t know why not.
I’m deaf, so I won’t be drafted… but I don’t want my friends to be drafted and killed. Please think before voting.
Posted by: PLEASE THINK | September 10, 2008, 6:51 am 6:51 am
regarding bush and coke:
Sources include:
Those in the air national guard with him and his sister in law Sharon is on the record saying this!
Just google it.
Posted by: Sources | September 10, 2008, 6:53 am 6:53 am
regarding bush and coke:
Sources include:
Those in the air national guard with him and his sister in law Sharon is on the record saying this!
Just google it.
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Hearsay & innuendo – not proof.
Osama admits it!
Posted by: Hostile Knowledge | September 10, 2008, 6:59 am 6:59 am
Here is a small but very typical post at the Hillary forum:
He is comparing Governor Palin (a pitbull in lipstick,) to a PIG and stinking fish?!!
Is he insane?
No seriously, has he lost his mind?
Is he rapping with Ludacris?
You DO NOT SAY THAT IN REFERENCE TO A WOMAN OR YOUR OPPONENT!!
Please, please, I beg of you.
Do not let this man become my President.
please
Hillary voters are crossing over to McCain-Palin in droves!!!
Posted by: Hostile Knowledge | September 10, 2008, 7:01 am 7:01 am
It’s not a coincidence that lipstick is being mentioned by Obama – OF COURSE he’s making a connection to Palin! He’s really walking on thin ice – I don’t know why he’d risk such a backlash from women.
Doesn’t anybody besides me think that the sex ed Obama is promoting would be better left alone in the schools? I mean, I really would prefer this information to come from me and my husband. I talk to my kids all the time about body parts and functions, privacy, good touch, bad touch, etc.
That being said, any education or information about sex, taught by either schools OR parents will NOT eliminate teen pregnancy – that’s just naive! And to keep talking about this teen, who has been humiliated on a worldwide level is terrible!
Posted by: namebrandx | September 10, 2008, 7:06 am 7:06 am
I am absolutely flabbergasted that Obama and his supporters have gone after Palin and her kids with the kinds of shocking vulgarity that I have witnessed.
I don’t know how he could not have a big backlash from women – and not just conservative women. I think most women are very offended. It looks like political suicide.
Posted by: Hostile Knowledge | September 10, 2008, 7:14 am 7:14 am
The language in the legislation says nothing about protecting kindergartners from predators, but that makes for a nice rebuttal talking point made up by the Obama fairy tale brigade.
Posted by: Wendell | September 10, 2008, 7:14 am 7:14 am
wow werent we told as small children what not to do ” and with the number of pedifiles around today ,children neeed to know more than ever what is inappropriate.if the republicans are against this perhaps they are wrong.
Posted by: rodney | September 10, 2008, 7:15 am 7:15 am
why do repubs lie so much–i dont get it are all americans that dumb to listen to the crap—–first thing out of palin mouth is a lie about the bridge to nowwhere.it is starting to get a little insulting—even to some of my republican friends.
Posted by: rodney | September 10, 2008, 7:23 am 7:23 am
you cannot dispute the fact that sex ed palin style dont work.her own daughter is living proof—-
Posted by: rodney | September 10, 2008, 7:30 am 7:30 am
A man ran into his daughter’s 6 y.o. friend and her parents on the street.
After a few pleasantries he looked at her and said, “Well, what do you want to be when you grow up?”
The little girl though for a minute, then said, “I want to help homeless people. There’s a homeless man over by the grocery store that’s hungry. If you give me $50 I’ll give it to him so he can eat.”
The man looked at her and said, “Tell you what I’ll do. You come over to my house and mow the lawn and mop my kitchen floor and I’ll give you the $50 to give to him.”
The little girl thought for a minute, then looked up and said, “I know! Why don’t you just get him to do the work and you can pay him directly?”
The moral: Even a 6 year old kid can be a lot smarter than liberals.
Posted by: Hostile Knowledge | September 10, 2008, 7:31 am 7:31 am
it sure seems like ABC is wanting to be like FOXNews. Can they frame the question any more biased? and then they embed the answer in right wing propoganda. Hey ABC, if I wanted tripe, i’d go to FOX. I expect better from you!!! shame on you ABC
Posted by: toddo | September 10, 2008, 7:32 am 7:32 am
So the McCain campaign would prefer that we not arm our innocent children with the means to recognize inappropriate touching? Disgusting.
Deb, isn’t that taught in the home? You are talking pretty young kids here. I can remember drug education in high school, the first thing I wanted to do is go out and try it.
Posted by: david | September 10, 2008, 7:33 am 7:33 am
i would love to hear mccain on sex ed—–straight from the hound himself–what a story that would make—might be a little obsene
this is just another distraction to get attention off mccain
goodby
Posted by: rodney | September 10, 2008, 7:35 am 7:35 am
Why was it perfectly acceptable for McCain to use the “pig in lipstick” comment twice in regards to Hillary’s policies, yet when Obama quotes him, you’re all in an uproar?
You Republicans are the most hypocritical bunch I’ve ever seen.
Pro-life for fetuses, but everyone else be d*mned – wars, death penalty, etc.
When Hollywood types (Jamie Lyn Spears) get pregnant at 16, they’re tramps and they’re parents are useless, but wow Palin’s daughter is an angel and they’re example of good parents.
It’s okay for McCain/Palin to lie, smear and mispresent, but if they get called in they go whining to everyone who will listen.
Heaven help us all if McCain and Palin are elected.
Posted by: DebM | September 10, 2008, 7:42 am 7:42 am
Obama would do well to realize that our public schools have been destroyed by the NEA and the corrupt curriculum perpetrated on our children.
If he is all about change, then stop using so-called sex ed. classes as pro secular humanist propaganda opportunities. Many NEA destroyed schools duplicitously ask for more parental involvement, while at the same time, they’re working to remove parental notification for birth control or abortions. It’s totally out of control and Obama’s handlers are part of this heinous attack on our children’s innocence.
Posted by: rural americans | September 10, 2008, 7:48 am 7:48 am
Obama had to pick sex ed , couldn’t be a safety class, needed to be about Mr.Winky and the cave? How disgusting is Obama?
Posted by: plaintalk | September 10, 2008, 7:53 am 7:53 am
Our children have to run a gauntlet of left wing secular humanist land mines before they can even get to reading, writing and math. How about phys ed. every day for every kid? That’s way more important than our children getting indoctrinated by Planned Parenthood perverts — I say perverts because this billion dollar industry preys on children and teenagers — and no one from the DNC seems to care about the destruction of lives perpetrated by so-called Planned Parenthood.
Posted by: rural americans | September 10, 2008, 7:54 am 7:54 am
The DNC has turned the urban black culture into voting slaves, but that’s not enough — the DNC has long been after our children, using the NEA, Planned Parenthood, and of course the ACLU.
As a former straight ticket voting democrat, I am saddened at what has befallen the democratic party. They’re one step away from the same programming of youth that is done by the Islamic fascists.
Posted by: rural americans | September 10, 2008, 7:58 am 7:58 am
Our daughter’s fiancé’s mother is an elementary school teacher downtown. She walked in on two first grade boys having anal sex in a stall – maybe they’ll grow up to be Republican Senators?
Because we don’t want it to be so, doesn’t make it go away. We need age appropriate sex education from K thru 12. Improper touching, and tell Mommy and teacher would be a good start.
Posted by: dennis in Indy | September 10, 2008, 8:16 am 8:16 am
Sex ed for certain kids can backfire. Especially if the wrong teacher teaches it, gives too much info and has a vulnerable student in their class. My child took a “health” class in high school (coming from a home where we had discussed sex, drugs, smoking and drinking comfortably) and walked away from it wanting to do everything that was discussed in class because of the way it was presented. The smokers were “rewarded” by trading their cigarettes for bags of candy. Most students could handle that but my child is diabetic and dealing with mental health issues and candy was something they shouldn’t have. Deep down my child wanted it and was being left out twice. There were many other things the teacher did that affected my child. The teacher’s attitude was to feel comfortable about sex. The students were instructed to holler the word penis as loud as they could. When all was said and done a year or two later the teacher was no longer teaching and listed in the court section of the paper for DWI. That same teacher…who taught a health class which included learning about alcohol abuse and DWI! It sounded like Obama gave the option for parents to have their child opt out of the class (which is important). Unfortuately we didn’t have that choice and I thought the class would be beneficial. I don’t think it should be a mandatory high school class because in my child’s case it was the catalyst for issues they are still dealing with today. I guess what I’m trying to say is sex ed classes should be handled with care and the “right” person should teach it. My other child had a different teacher a few years later and benefited from the class. Health classes (sex ed) for younger kids should be handled carefully because there is always the possiblity they could do more damage than help.
Posted by: Sue | September 10, 2008, 8:37 am 8:37 am
We NEED age appropriate sex education to protect innocent children from abuse. Sarah Palin, mother of 5, should know this and yet she stands by while “her team” lets this ad be aired? I wonder how she can even look at herself in the mirror. McCain Palin and all those who are against giving children the knowledge to protect themselves from predators – are MENTALLY UNFIT TO BE PARENTS, much less leaders.
Posted by: anon | September 10, 2008, 8:38 am 8:38 am
Why is the McCain-Palin campaign talking about sex for kids? Isn’t that a sensitive subject for them?
Posted by: Rodham Democrat | September 10, 2008, 8:42 am 8:42 am
I guess mccain wants to allow sex predators to hide in the shadows and not get caught because he will not allow discussion of bad touching
Posted by: mccain pervert | September 10, 2008, 8:54 am 8:54 am
All of you folks who either didn’t read the article or who seriously think it’s wrong to tell kids what inappropriate touching is and why it’s not appropriate–the “why it’s not appropriate is essentially sex ed–amaze me.
If a kid is being molested, it shouldn’t take them ten years until they figure out what molestation is to figure out that’s what’s happened to them.
And by the way… What. Is. Wrong. With. Kids. Knowing. That. Their. Bodies. Were. Physically. Produced. By. Their. Parents.
How does that “ruin their childhood” exactly?
Posted by: Andrew | September 10, 2008, 9:22 am 9:22 am
When you can’t talk about the real issues, you make stuff up to change the topic. McCain/Palin are trash for putting out such trash. Americans are smarter.
Posted by: kent3536 | September 10, 2008, 9:27 am 9:27 am
I suppose the mccain campaign would rather teach the kindergartners about mayor palins abstinence plan. That’s right bristol got knocked up.
It seems that telling an adult about bad touching would keep the children more safe. To bad mccain does not want the kids safe.
Posted by: Bill | September 10, 2008, 9:29 am 9:29 am
Keep it up Obama supporters!! the more you slime Palin the more support McCain/Palin will get. You did it in the primaries against Hillary and if it wasn’t for your so called super delegates he wouldn’t have won the primary!!! THERE ARE NO SUPER DELEGATES IN THE GENERAL!!! LMAO
Posted by: lovingpolitics | September 10, 2008, 9:31 am 9:31 am
Jesus Christ, where is this headed? McCain distorts and lies and then hides behind his POW rock. John, you attempt to cheapen the sacrifices made by all of our soldiers that have ever fought to defend this country. From brave soldier to coward.
Posted by: TSnow27604 | September 10, 2008, 9:34 am 9:34 am
Not talking about inappropriate touching leads to confused kids and opportunities for child molesters. Child molesters would have been against this legislation, just like McCain. Therefore, McCain, by attacking Obama on this issue, has indicated his support for molesting children.
Posted by: Strategery My Dupa | September 10, 2008, 9:58 am 9:58 am
The media is so full of crap McCain puts out this vile ad that shows his character and you don’t see anything about it on any of the msm sites today. All they want to do is talk about some “Pig” comment. Screw the media.
Posted by: themediasucks | September 10, 2008, 10:01 am 10:01 am
The danger of kindergarten-appropriate sex education is that it opens the door for agencies like GLSTN to introduce books like “I Have Two Daddies.” If this legislation were enacted, I guarantee gay advocates would be launching campaign after campaign to integrate pro-gay literature into curriculums targeting 5-year-olds and 6-year-olds. All in the name of tolerance.
I do not want my 6-year-old being taught the government’s re-definition of marriage and family.
Posted by: Jon | September 10, 2008, 10:15 am 10:15 am
Jon–You make a very good point. I had not even thought about the pro-gay aspect of the sex ed in schools.
I think some education about inappropriate touching would be okay, but then again, who is teaching this and will kids start getting paranoid everytime someone hugs them or daddy gives them a bath? It’s not above the realm of reality since we have kindergarteners who are expelled for giving their peers hugs or kisses.
Parents should be taking the initiative to teach their children about this subject themselves.
Btw–For all of you taking shots at Bristol Palin’s pregnancy, Obama would have had his daughter abort the baby and would not have told anyone about it and you know it. There are many great parents who have found themselves in this situation. It’s a fine line, when they are teens they have the “this could never happen to me mentality”. If you give them the pill, whose to say they will even take it and basically you’re giving them permission to have sex. Judge not lest ye be judged, because one day all of the scathing remarks about her will turn around to bite you on the butt and you could find yourself in the same situation.
Posted by: S Adams | September 10, 2008, 10:28 am 10:28 am
Barack Obama wants to live in the White House – but his youngest half-brother lives in the poorhouse.
George Obama, one of the candidate’s seven living half-siblings, lives on pennies a month in a hut in Africa, the Italian edition of Vanity Fair revealed.
“No one knows who I am,” George Obama, 26, told the magazine. “I live like a recluse, no one knows I exist.”
He lives on the outskirts of Nairobi in a 65-square-foot shack decorated with posters of the Italian soccer clubs AC Milan and Inter, and a calendar of beaches.
“I live here on less than a dollar a month,” he said.
The younger Obama has a front-page newspaper photo of his famous brother, the Democratic candidate who lives in a $1.65 million restored Georgian mansion in Chicago.
First Mr. Obama Help your own brother before trying to fix The family’s of America…
Posted by: GoUSA247 | September 10, 2008, 10:42 am 10:42 am
Parents need to determine what age appropriate sexual education is for their kindergartners, not children.
Defend it all you want, but you who think it’s a great idea, show your unabridge support for every burgeoning government intrusion as it usurps the right of the individual to self-govern and determine what is best for his/her child and family.
Posted by: Jon | September 10, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am
McCain is so old that he thinks everyone is good person. He doesn’t want a child to learn about pedophiles. God help us!!!!!! 19th Century thinking
Posted by: Dali | September 10, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am
Since McCain is trying to ruin someone for trying to protect little kids from child molesters, I guess we know who the rapists, perverts, pedophiles, and sickos are voting for—they’re all supporting John McCain.
Posted by: stan | September 10, 2008, 10:51 am 10:51 am
Ironically, Alaska is rated high in cases of sexual assault, rape, incest and child pornography. Obama was right, McCain was wrong.
Posted by: Charles | September 10, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am
Obama’s had some attack ads, too, folks to be fair, but this one by McCain is truly the worst I’ve seen in presidential politics, ever. Seems the man has absolutely ZERO standards about anything if he’s willing to sign off on this and say ‘I approve of this message’.
Posted by: jerry | September 10, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am
ALL MEDIA IS RIGHTWING:
Why is this true? Because the obvious questions are not discussed. EX. The energy policy that led to 9/11 and 7000 dead American and counting. I remember our 40% dependance on foreign oil in 70,80′s and in 1980′s R Ragin and REPUBLICAN removing Jimmy Carter initiaves to get us off foreign oil.That lead us to 9/11 and that lead us to over a 100,000 deaths.Only having a mainly republican media policy lead to this disaster. NO REAL DISCUSSION OF HOW THIS COULD HAPPEN.This is how you prove the negative; When the negative happens! Millions of voters believed the negative could happen.You the media didn’t hear our voice just like in the IRIAQ war we said something is wrong; but you told us we do not support the tropes.
EX.Do we have a free market system in THE OIL INDUSTRY. Where are the QUESTIONS? I think we all see the ansowers.
Posted by: Jay | September 10, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am
John McCain was once an honorable man but his blind ambition to be President and willingness to use repeatedly exposed lies shows he no longer retains any of that honor.
Let me say it clearly so he can hear it:
John McCain, you are a lying weasel and do not deserve a single vote.
Posted by: The Other Ed | September 10, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am
If right wing conservative Christian Republicans had their way, the only sex education our children would receive would be “not to do it”. Rather than schools offering an approved standardized sex education program, they say that they want it taught in the home. Problem is – they don’t teach it and if they do, it is their own repressed uninformed view of it. Sexuality is an integral part of the human condition. Children are naturally curious. If they are told the facts in an age appropriate manner, along with consequences’ their curiosity will be reduced. If they get the message that it is taboo and secret, their curiosity will build and they will get the information they want from their peers or through experimentation. Those are the facts of life…
Posted by: DaveM | September 10, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am
Jon said: “Parents need to determine what age appropriate sexual education is for their kindergartners, not children.”
Yes. That is why there was an opt-out ability in Obama’s plan, and why there is one in every public school health/family/sex education schedule I’ve seen.
I was given the choice to opt out of my kindergartner learning so basic a message as “There are many different people in our community.”
Posted by: Laura | September 10, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am
Come on, people! At least 14% of sexual abuse victims are UNDER SIX YEARS OLD! Get your heads out of the sand. I’d rather see a few false alarms than have children hurt and abused.
I’ve got a four year old. While I don’t want him to be scared, he needs to know about right touches and wrong touches, because at this age kids are very exploratory and their innocence could be easily exploited, not just by grownups but by older children. He’s learning this just like he learned that he’s not supposed to hit or bite, or let others hit or bite him.
He also knows that his baby sibling is being made in mama’s tummy in the uterus, and also in general terms how it will come out. I also reinforce that like picking noses or saying bad words, showing one’s penis in public is not polite, and the older you get, the more upset people get when it happens. :P However, we don’t treat our bodies as something to be ashamed of. That’s age appropriate sex education, and probably all that the IL state legislature was hoping for.
With this info, my son is not frightened, oversexed, or fearful of physical contact. But we want him to be respectful of others and safe, and I’m glad I laid down the boundaries without pussyfooting around.
Some families don’t teach their kids for whatever reason. Those kids need to be protected too, maybe more than others!
Posted by: jeana | September 10, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am
McCain you really screwed up big time with this ad, totally a lie and I am outraged more that you would approve this, was it Rove’s idea. Your Republican base is also upset. Shame on you. How can American make a decision on this election with no issues debated,just horrible lies and half truths. Is this what American has become? Politics/Hollywood.
Posted by: SmileAlready | September 10, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am
I think that age appropriate sex education is the right thing to do. The key is the education would be age appropriate. It empowers and protects the children from inappropriate advances and attacks. You have to remember that not all parents are “good” parents. Some don’t educate their children with information that can protect them. Some say that the it is the school’s job to educate their children about these issues.
Posted by: stace | September 10, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am
Hey, maybe if sex-ed had been taught at a young age, especially in Alaska, Palin might not have a pregnant daughter with an illegitimate child right now. Apparently her home schooling on the subject didn’t work.
Posted by: devilkev | September 10, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am
Bristol Palin could have used sex education early in her life.
Posted by: Rodham Democrat | September 10, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am
If you didn’t have hypocritical sick perverts like republicans who solicit sex in airport bathrooms,there wouldn’t be the need to teach children about ”sex”.If any of you dumb right wing dummies could fact check the education is age appropriate.Thats why most of you group not of sound mind,because you are indoctrinated to take anything without questioning.I have news for you the public school system in Ghana West Africa is better the some Publics school in the US.Ghana is a third world country and most 8th graders can read.If you would stop pointing fingers at people instead of thinking for yourself and reasoning why urban and suburban schools have unequal funding,maybe you could get the jobs that were shipped to India and China back dummies.Nigeria is even training more IT capable engineers than the US,guess what because there is a fair school system.This elections is not about black and white,its about your well being.Bush and Cheney will have money stashed for their great great grandkids what about your ”bible thumping” lots,hey maybe the church will give you welfare dummies. And one piece of advice Jesus didn’t discriminate against anyone even the gentiles and he wasn’t taking money from lobbyist to preach the gospel,he organized.To the enlightened Americans who are working hard towards making the great nation of yours once the beacon of hope of the world,have my condolence for you are fighting against ignorance and a culture of suppression which has made the elite few rich for decades since you had independence.
Posted by: Quame | September 10, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm
Not surprised to see more sleaze and lies from the McCain campaign, but shocked and disgusted by ABC’s reporting. Why will the MSM not call out McCain/Palin as liars???? Is there no journalism left in America?
Posted by: Rob Simpson | September 10, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm
You mean, with the number of “nasties” out there waiting in the backgroud to fondle our children, McCain wants to blast a man who cares enough about them to have them taught about inappropriate activity? What a Maverick! Too old recognize the necessity of some forms of sex education, huh? Maybe, all he remembers is where “it” goes, ya think? Has he spoken with teachers who have caught young children engaging in sexual activity? Believe me the numbers are great. Is he too old to remember the age of which he got his first crush. Yes, parents are responsible for teaching there children. However, for those of us that do, our children still have encounters with the children of those who don’t teach them. Now what? Make it a law requiring parents to teach their kids about sex? Under what provisions? Would I then have to worry about what another parent has taught their child? Some parents praise their boys should for losing their virginity. We teach the girls to keep it. What are we saying here? We could go on and on and on. Teach at age appropriate levels both abstinence and protection to cover all sides of the equation and let’s move on to another issue.
Posted by: Rational Voter | September 10, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm
“EX. The energy policy that led to 9/11 and 7000 dead American and counting.”
I’ve heard some people say that our unconditional support of Israel also plays a role in terrorist activities against us.
Before anyone gets upset I’m not saying we shouldn’t support Israel. I wouldn’t know what to do there, honestly. But Arabs in the region feel they have a legitimate claim to the real estate too, and they may see us and Israel as one entity in that regard.
Whatever the reason, it was a little more complex than “terrorists hate our freedoms.”
Posted by: anon | September 10, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
Sandra Wallace said: “As a Nurse Practitioner and Pediatric Nurse I just want to say that I’m outraged that Sen Obama is being attacked by the McCain camp on this. It’s been suggested in the literature that we talk to young children about predators in an age appropriate way.
My husband, a former Naval Academy Graduate, was going to vote McCain – not anymore. This is the type of swiftboat politics that he said he was against.”
Sandra, my husband was a Navy flight instructor. He too will not be voting for McCain; the campaign is disgraceful and dishonorable. He says Navy pilots are always rated on “Bad Headwork”.
Posted by: Idahogirl | September 10, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
McCain-Palin are soft on child molesters … they don’t want kids to know what “inappropriate touching” is … they want to give child molesters a free pass …
McCain-Palin are SOFT ON CHILD MOLESTERS. … They don’t want to stop the sexual abuse of children.
Posted by: WayneW | September 10, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
Those Willie Horton ads were originated by Al Gore in the Primary race, not by the Bush campaign. It gets real old hearing that the Republicans started that crap. It was typical liberal hypocrisy that the media has downplayed ever since it happened.
Posted by: Andy B | September 10, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm
Bristol Palin could have used sex education early in her life.
Posted by: Rodham Democrat | Sep 10, 2008 11:54:28 AM
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Her mommy is against the use of condoms – It’s not God’s way
Posted by: DUH | September 10, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm
As I read the posts here today there is one thing that has been pointed out, but I think is missed by a lot of people here, probably because they are blinded by their loyalty to their candidate. There is a difference between teaching a child the difference between inappropriate touching and what our body parts are and what they are for. I am for teaching about inappropriate touching and what to do about it, not sex education to children. That should be done by the parents/family. I see a lot of people on here that advocate teaching 6 year old children about sex ed. How about we teach our kids about one religion in school? Or are we going to have multiply choices about which sex education materials to choose from. This is just a thought that we should all stop and think about here. I am the father of three children of my own and a grandfather of one. One last thing, Sen. Obama has said that family is off limits. Lets honor his wish, please!
Posted by: Jeff | September 10, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
Schools are struggling enough just trying to teach kids the basics – reading, writing and math – and most schools have had to cut things like art, physical education and music just to meet test requirements for the basics. Sex education does not belong in the elementary schools – there are simply other priorities. Save the subject for middle school, at least.
Posted by: li'l me | September 10, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
I have two words for this ad: Karl Rove! I’m so ashamed of John McCain stooping this low! It’s entirely out of character for him, so you know where it’s coming from!!! Isn’t it funny? O’Reilly calls Jamie Spears parent’s “pinheads” for letting their daughter get pregnant! Wonder what he calls Bristol Palin’s parent’s? I was voting McCain til he picked her! Like Bush years ago, until he picked Cheney. I knew it was the wrong pick and I know she is the wrong pick too. She’s deceptive and it’s obvious by the fact they won’t let the press talk to her! What are they afraid of? Either she’ll be asked the wrong question, or she won’t be able to answer a question! IF the american people are so stupid this time as to vote republican again, then, our country will certainly be the laughingstock of the world!!
Posted by: Kathy | September 10, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
“Save the subject for middle school, at least.”
The key words are AGE APPROPRIATE. It should absolutely be taught at all levels of school, at an AGE APPROPRIATE level.
There are a lot of parents who ignore the topic completely with their children. If you put it in schools and give the parents the option to “opt out”, they at least have to consider it for their child one way or another.
Girls today are sexually maturing (menstruating) at earlier and earlier ages (people attribute the decrease in age with our modern diets.) That CAN start as early as age 8.
Teach them the proper names of their body parts. Teach kids to understand what’s going on with their bodies. Even though it has the word ‘sex’ in it, sex education isn’t just about intercourse.
Posted by: anon | September 10, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
For those of you who suggest a candidate’s religious beliefs won’t become involved in policy, look back. For 7 consecutive years, “Born Again” Bush withheld money from the UN Population Fund (UNFPA), an organization dedicated to global work on issues such as increasing access to contraception and family planning, HIV prevention, and improving obstetric care. Why? Because UNFPA talked to women about birth control. UNFPA did not encourage women to have abortions – it in fact convinced China in 1992 to switch to a more effective but more expensive IUD, averting 5 million abortions a decade. But for religious/political reasons, Bush withheld funding for a wide range of UNFPA programs, including life-saving support to pregnant women displaced by conflicts and natural disasters. And here in the United States? The Republican Congress approved over 1 BILLION for “abstinence-only” programs, also supported by McCain and Palin. According to health officials who testified before Congress in April 2008, these programs “had NO positive effect on high school students, and may be a factor in the high rates of sexually-transmitted disease in teens.” John McCain’s voting record shows he has followed the Republican Party line, consistently voting AGAINST access to contraception and sex-education. McCain even opposed legislation requiring that abstinence-only programs be medically accurate and based in science.
Posted by: Idahogirl | September 10, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
Schools have do not place in raising your kids.. that the PARENTS job.
Posted by: GoUSA247 | September 10, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
No Honor. No Shame. No McCain/Palin.
Posted by: ferrethead | September 10, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
Obama voted for the bill… it’s not a lie. looked it up.
Posted by: GoUSA247 | September 10, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
I wonder if Martin Luther King jr. wourld agree with Mr. Obama… I think Not.. Because MLK was a Republican.
Posted by: GoUSA247 | September 10, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
Gosh Everyone sounds so angry if you don’t like a certain canidate vote for the other one and shut up! If you individuals think your all correct great who really cares what you think its not right or wrong its what you think.Which is due to the experiences that have happened in your life. Everyon is different!! So my suggestion is vote for who you believe in and see what happens. If your candidate doesn’t win, then you’ll know you should have run.
Posted by: Cathy | September 10, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
Of course families should ideally teach sex education, but clearly that’s not always happening. Teen pregnancy can happen even in a family like Sarah Palin’s where I presume she discussed abstinence with her kids. Federal funding and laws should be based on our kids’ health needs, not fundamentalist religious beliefs. After 8 years and 1 BILLION wasted on “abstinence only” programs, it’s time to provide comprehensive, science-based sex education to prevent disease and unplanned pregnancy.
Posted by: Idahogirl | September 10, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
–Amber, thanks for your long irrelevant blog about your political interest and propaganda. I will be voting the McCain/Palen ticket for decency and change.
I have read Obama’s speeches and research him for 10 months and find him to to very dishonest and really inexperienced for the role of President.
Posted by: Mai | September 10, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
why is no one concerned that Mccain is pro-child molestation?
Posted by: Jason | September 10, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
If Palin, would teach her daughters to use their head they would not get knocked up… I am sure she has used her head a lot of times.
Posted by: P-51 jock | September 10, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
The more desperate they get, the dirtier they get. Not surprising.
So, the ad will be airing nationally on Fox? Sounds as if they are preaching to the choir.
Posted by: KM | September 10, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
McCain/Palin sink to a new low. This anti-Obama ad is a lie. “Age appropriate” sex ed includes “good touch, bad touch” lessons for Kindergarteners to prevent molestation – and that is what this Illinois legislation sought to do. McCain/Palin are really into Karl Rove tactics here.
Posted by: D | September 10, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
Dear Sirs,
The Willie Horton ad was first shown by Al Gore’s campaign during the primaries.
When a candidate makes a statement of policy then it is entirely appropriate for the opposition to advance their interpretation of what was said. And then back at ya! If you respond by yelling liar then the response is a sure loser.
In all the campaigns that I have watched, starting in 1952, I have never seen one with such a tin ear. This speaks to the experience of the whole organization. These people have never run against a competent Republican in a in a place that was not heavily Democratic.
I don’t mean to express partisanship here. I have my druthers, but I am trying to render an objective analysis based on my experience.
Regards,
Roy
Posted by: Roy Lofquist | September 10, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
McCain
FOR pedophillia
AGAINST education
There you have it folks, he’s going for the kiddie molester vote.
How desperate can he be?
Posted by: ThunderHeart | September 10, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
since when do we let schools teach 5 years old about sex ed. Who in there right mind would want some kindergarten teacher talking to their own kids about sex or even their private parts. Havent you fools been reading or watching the news. More teachers are raping and having sex with students then ever, and now NOBAMA wants teachers to teach 5 year olds about their private parts. This is why America is going to crap, because parents have to put up with this. Parents are the ones that are responsible for this talk not teachers. The Dems are out of there mind teachers are better prepared for this then parents. Dems-take responsibilty for your children and teach them correctly. Do not rely on teachers to do this. TAKE RESPONSIBILTY
Posted by: Gomac | September 10, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
I am an elementary school counselor in Austin, Texas, and I understand the need for age appropriate sex education. However, it should not take a Masters Degree in Psychology for the average American citizen to understand this need also, especially since 1 out of 3 young girls is sexually abused before reaching adulthood! Age appropriate sex education is necessary! And in any case of sex abuse, prevention is always best! I would like to invite John McCain to my office to listen to some of my students’case histories (horror stories!) I support Obama 100% on age appropriate sex education! McCain was a POW victim but released from his captivity. Sexually abused children are victims for life!
Posted by: Joyce | September 10, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
My new ad:
Creepy looking guy w/molester mustache lurks near school playground. ….
[voiceover]John McCain doesn’t think this guy’s a threat. He doesn’t want to stop child molesting.
John McCain is against teach your children about the dangers of sex offenders; about inappropriate touching. He thinks your children should be left to “figure it out on their own.”
John McCain: He’s “Yes” on child molesting … and “No” on education and keeping our kids safe.
Posted by: HalB | September 10, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
If you are familiar with the story of John McCain licking shots off his topless girlfriend in a Florida bar while she was performing, then you probably understand his ignorance regarding sex education.
Posted by: Anne | September 10, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
John McCain is a dirty old man!
Posted by: Joñi | September 10, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
Joyce, maybe you should invite the parents of the these girls to your office. Maybe they should take responsiblity for there children. Hell teachers are being convicted of pediphilia everyday. Maybe you Dems are ok with that, but not in my neighborhood. Hal you must not have kids because your lame excuse for teaching sex ed to 5 year olds is ridiculous. You would understand kids have questions and want answers, not to be given by some 25 year old newly graduated half baked kindergarten teacher. TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for your children and teach them. Do not have some fondling teacher talk to kids about sex ed.
Posted by: Gomac | September 10, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
Let’s see. Should we listen to the advice from “Joyce”, an elementary school counselor, who says 1 out of 3 young girls are sexually abused before adulthood and therefore age appropriate sex education is important? Or, should we take the advice of “Gomac” who thinks teachers are rapists and lecturing about more responsibility will work fine?
Posted by: Center One | September 10, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
Dems are Idiots. Bottom Line, Obama is an Idiot with no substance.
Posted by: Gomac | September 10, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
“Andy B” spreads more BS from the wacky-right.
“The first person to mention the Massachusetts furlough program in the 1988 presidential campaign was Al Gore. During a debate at the Felt Forum sponsored by the New York Daily News, Gore took issue with the furlough program. However, he did not specifically mention the Horton incident or even mention Horton’s name, instead asking a general question about the Massachusetts furlough program.[6]
Republicans would pick up the Horton issue after Dukakis clinched the nomination. In June 1988, Republican candidate George H.W. Bush seized on the Horton case, bringing it up repeatedly in campaign speeches. [6]Bush’s campaign manager, Lee Atwater, predicted that “by the time this election is over, Willie Horton will be a household name.”[6][7] Media consultant Roger Ailes remarked “the only question is whether we depict Willie Horton with a knife in his hand or without it.”[8]“
Posted by: thruth | September 10, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
Old is an understatement! Senile is the politically correct word! I shudder to think what could become of our country should McCain win this election!! In a few short years… there’s Cindy… feeding him oatmeal in his wheelchair…while Sarah is speaking to the UN…in tongues!
Posted by: Anne | September 10, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
OR should we listen to Center ONE who if had the choice would put children in danger by having to take that chance. MORON. Center One, get your head out from between your tail and understand you have the brain of a pea. Maybe your one of the irresponsible parents that dont teach there kids about the dangers of the world,you will let someone else do your job. Just like a Dem rely on someone else.,
Posted by: gomac | September 10, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
America’s deteriorating family environments are a continuing pattern – low education, poor jobs, bad neighborhoods, single parent, bad food, no discipline, not reading. By the time these kids reach public school, many of them are already in a negative spiral. I taught at a GED clinic for at-risk High School drop-outs and ex-offenders. My kids were physically and sexually abused (often at an early age), ignored, malnourished, and struggling with undiagnosed learning disorders. By then it’s an uphill struggle. Part of Obama’s recommendation for early childhood education cuts to the cause. When parents are TAUGHT how to participate in early childhood education (such as Head Start), the program can be interwoven with parenting RESPONSIBILITY – that’s 2 for the price of 1. If ever America needed leadership to focus on education solutions for our future, it is NOW. I will be voting for Barak Obama.
Posted by: Idahogirl | September 10, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
Before I substituted as a second grade teacher on yesterday, I would not have thought very seriously about this issue. BUt now I can see how utterly ridiculous it is. Our kids do not have enough time to learn the BASICS..reading and math. Adding sex education is ridiculous. It should be taught at HOME using home values. If schools are failing it is because so much JUNK is being forced into the curriculum (so we can have group values and thought) that teachers are struggling with keeping up and kids are NOT learning. Just check out the statistics and high failure rates. When does common sense begin?????? Why do you think kids can not learn subjective thinking….because we as adults don’t know and we can’t teach what we don’t know or use. Kids need the basics and when they get the basics down then teachers can build on that foundation social science, biology, etc. BUT so much is political goobly gock. No substance. Math and reading for the kids, PLEASE.
Posted by: Dorothy | September 10, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
I am a curriculum specialist in a public school system in Indiana. I have drafted numerous proposals for implementation of a sex education program here and finally this year it was approved. (It took some serious data to convince our conservative school board.) Even though I am a registered Republician,I will be voting for Obama this time, and not just because he supports my ideas, but because he has the best intellectual judgement to move America forward.
Posted by: Kamal | September 10, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
Dorothy, it appears that you made a snap judgement probably based on a bad day of substitute “teaching”. You said schools teach “junk”? Our school nurses and counselors are the resource people who provide excellent and needed information for students. They are well trained and sensitive to the needs of our students and our community. Perhaps you need to return to school and finish your degree and become a real teacher.
Posted by: Kamal | September 10, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
Gomac, thank you for your thoughtful comments. You are a Republican poster boy for why America needs improved education.
Posted by: Center One | September 10, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
Babies don’t have a choice of parents, and not every family is able or educated enough to compensate for the big gaps in educational attainment that appear by age 5. Some kids are born into a family atmosphere that promotes education. Some kids are born into a family that discusses sex and drugs. But over the past 40 years the US population doubled and increasingly more and more kids are NOT getting what they need at home. Our high school graduation rates have fallen since the 70s. According to Nobel Prize economist James Heckman, this decline in US education is not because of poor schools or lack of funding for college – it is our family environments which have DETERIORATED over the past 40 years. He points to huge gaps in a child’s ability to learn by age five. Sure, IQ matters, but Heckman says equally important traits are established in very young children: motivation levels, emotional stability, self-control and sociability. Why is an economist worried about US education? Our country is at risk. We are now in a globally competitive market and falling behind other countries in educational attainment. Obama’s education plan focuses on this critical early childhood education – similar to the successful, bi-partisan supported Head Start program. If ever there was a time when America needed to focus on education, it is NOW.
Posted by: Idahogirl | September 10, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
Larry Craig, another old pal of McCain’s, voted against sex education in his district too!
Posted by: westin | September 10, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
ELECTION 2008
Obama plagiarized
‘lipstick speech’?
Comments almost word-for-word copy
of Washington Post political cartoon
–WND
Posted by: PIG WITH THE LIPSTICK | September 10, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
The John McCain attack ad purporting that Barack Obama advocates age-appropriate and science-based sex education in schools has again exposed the general lack of understanding that the public has about sex education. Most of the negative comments about Obama on internet blogs seem to make the assumption that the intention of age-appropriate and science-based sex education is to teach very young children about intercourse and other adult sexual activities. That is not what Obama meant and it is not something that young children even have the capacity to grasp.
What Obama was talking about was warning young children about sexual predators and explaining concepts like “good touch and bad touch.” A specific example would be teaching young children that it is inappropriate to touch ANYONE else without their permission, including other children. This is a very important lesson and one that should be reinforced by teaching the children how to comfortably ask for permission to touch someone and how to say “NO” when they are asked and do not wish to be physically touched in any way. In addition to the problem of sexual predators, children can be very disrespectful to other children and their early experiences, particularly in the public schools, often leave scars that last a lifetime.
Other industrialized countries that teach age-appropriate and science-based sex education in the public schools have much lower rates of unwanted teenage pregnancy, abortion and STDs. Also, many studies have shown that the more age-appropriate and science-based sex education a person has, ,on average, the longer they will delay the age of initial intercourse.
It is vital that we all understand the issues involved with this discussion (the very safety of very young as well as older children) and how important they are to all of us, our society and, especially our children.
—-
Gary Schubach, Ed.D., A.C.S.
http://www.DoctorG.com
Posted by: Gary Schubach, Ed.D., A.C.S. | September 10, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
About the Obama Ayers friendship and the cover up that appears to be going on regarding Obama’s Chair person role in the the failed Annenberg Challenge.
Bill Ayers got a nice teaching job at UIC and his wife (Dorhn) got a slot in a high powered law firm, then shifted over to North Western when the state denied her law license because Daddy Ayers was friends with the old Mayor Daley. Klonsky ended up driving a cab because no one would hire him due to his radical past, even though it was less violent than Ayers and Dorhn. Everyone knew who Bill Ayers was, but they gave him a pass because no one would buck the corrupt system. When Obama came in contact with this corruption, he didn’t reject it, he befriended it.
Posted by: Mary | September 10, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
Bottom line, Obama wants the State to take over sexual education of children as young as 5 from their parents. Obama is a statist, all power to the State. What Obama is proposing now may sound pretty benign, but what is to stop Obama from educating kids about sexual preference or other issues that may go against the religious beliefs of their parents? That is what the McCain ad is all about. McCain is trying to warn us the Obama knows no limits when it comes to the power of the State over the lives of everyone, including children as young as 5.
Posted by: Mary | September 10, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
Sen. John McCain has proved himself to be unqualified and incapable of effectively leading the United States of America into the future by, among other things, his reckless, irresponsible, impulsive, and dangerous judgment in picking Sarah Palin as his running mate. Sarah Palin is a minor distraction not even worthy of discussion. However, Sen. John McCain has shown his contempt for the intelligence of the American people by making this unequivocally cynical decision to use an unknown, untested, and corrupt, serial liar like Sarah Palin to deceive voters into believing he stands for change. Sen. John McCain also disgraced himself by demonstrating a lack of courage in his choice of Sarah Palin at the last moment over much more qualified Republican men and women simply because she appeals to the base of the Republican Party, a group of voters he was going to lose. What Sen. John McCain doesn’t understand is that by appeasing the extreme right wing of the Republican Party, he is going to lose the voters that really count, i.e., moderate and independent voters, and, in doing so, certainly lose the election. Obama/Biden 2008!!!
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN1043793620080910?feedType=nl&feedName=ustopnewsafternoon
According to the Pentagon, we are losing Afghanistan.
Posted by: caliguy55 | September 10, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
This ad is not misleading. The fact is Obama supporting kindergardeners sex education. That is an absolutely ridiculous idea. Obama supports it. That’s what the ad states. What is misleading about that?
Posted by: Frank | September 10, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
Do your reporters ever investigate the veracity of such an allegation about sex education?
It is false but let me cite a verifable fact…the Netherlands has far more comprehensive sex education in their secondary school systems than we do with resultant lower numbers of std’s, teen pregnancy and other problems…we should have sex education for kids and it is simply our hypocritical attitudes that prevent us from doing this.
jim
Posted by: jim | September 10, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
Do your reporters ever investigate the veracity of such an allegation about sex education?
It is false but let me cite a verifable fact…the Netherlands has far more comprehensive sex education in their secondary school systems than we do with resultant lower numbers of std’s, teen pregnancy and other problems…we should have sex education for kids and it is simply our hypocritical attitudes that prevent us from doing this.
jim
Posted by: jim | September 10, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
Do your reporters ever investigate the veracity of such an allegation about sex education?
It is false but let me cite a verifable fact…the Netherlands has far more comprehensive sex education in their secondary school systems than we do with resultant lower numbers of std’s, teen pregnancy and other problems…we should have sex education for kids and it is simply our hypocritical attitudes that prevent us from doing this.
jim
Posted by: jim | September 10, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
This McCain ad is a flat out LIE. Here is a link to the bill they referenced in the ad: http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=99&GAID=3&DocTypeID=SB&LegId=734&SessionID=3&GA=93
Check out the amendments for yourself (something most major media outlets won’t bother doing). No where does it say that the bill is about teach sex education to kindergarten. What it does say is things like,
“[classes] shall emphasize that abstinence is the expected norm in that abstinence from sexual intercourse is the only protection that is 100% effective…”
and
“Course material and instruction shall be age appropriate”
and
“courses of instruction shall include the teaching of the alternatives to abortion, appropriate to the various grade levels; and whenever such courses of instruction are provided in any of grades 6 through 12, then such courses also shall include instruction on the prevention, transmission and spread of AIDS”
and
“No pupil shall be required to take or participate in any class or course in comprehensive sex education if his parent or guardian submits written objection…”
Once again, I say, check out the bill for yourself and see that the McCain campaign is using the same old slimy political tactics brought about by desperation and the intent of trying to scare the American public into voting for him. I don’t know about you, but I am sick of this.
Posted by: Josh | September 10, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
Nice story Teddy, the pedophiles of this country thank you. You and McCain would have our kindergarten children be completely ignorant and defenseless with respect to inappropriate touching. When are you going to stop carrying water for McCain?
Posted by: Bob Scofield | September 10, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
As a victim of a child sexual abuse at the age of 5, I can testify how it has truly had a negative impact on my life. If I had known that it was wrong, and that it was safe to tell someone about it, I would be much better off today. I don’t care who you are voting for, telling children about these things is very, very important and misrepresenting it for political gain bring tears to my eyes.
Posted by: Jen | September 10, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
so, the fact remains, mao-bama did sign his name to a bill (without voting present), that advocates alternate sex-ed to k-12 grades. one of his experience issues he’s so proud to pretend he has…..
this is one of those hot-button mao-bama issues, like killing viable fetuses.
change for the worse,
Posted by: theSwimmah | September 10, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
I have worked in preschool classrooms with 5 year old children in Chicago and they have plenty of other things going on in their lives that get in their way of being innocent children… From personal experience, children who are living in single parent homes and being cared for by older siblings will inevitably deal with gangs, sex, drugs, and more…. they can only benefit from the programs that Obama supports.
Sorry to burst everyone’s imaginary euphoric bubble, but there are 5 year old children in this country who probably have more difficult lives than most of you reading this.
Posted by: RobynK | September 10, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm
There was a time when McCain seemed like a possible choice. NOT ANYMORE. Between choosing Sarah Palin (OH, MY, GOD – She is TERRIFYING),and this type of ad, he is NOT McSame, he is looking like McWORSE…
Posted by: LuraG | September 10, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm
In this day and age, children are bombarded by sex, and with all the stories you can find on a daily basis about a child being sexually abused in this country and around the world, one would think that any responsible parent would want their child to be able to identify if an adult has touched them inappropriately or hurt them in a sexual way. It should start at home, but unfortunately it sometimes doesn’t. We no longer live in a world that protects children, because the best protection is knowledge, which is something that America’s children are not getting enough of. To assume that to shield your kids from the world can be enough is to live in blatant ignorance.
Posted by: Ericalex | September 10, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm
McCain’s ad is dishonest. That’s the story. So, why is ABC News burying the lede? Why are journalists bending over backwards to show “objectivity” when reporting on stuff they know to be untrue? Why are these tabloid web (press release) ads being covered as news?
Media coverage of this election reminds me of the disgraceful behavior of the fourth estate in the run-up to the Iraq war, when the media were basically shills for President Bush. Apparently not enough introspection was done, because the media is at it again.
Posted by: Citizen_Val | September 11, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
McCain’s ad is dishonest. That’s the story. So, why is ABC News burying the lede? Why are journalists bending over backwards to show “objectivity” when reporting on stuff they know to be untrue? Why are these tabloid web (press release) ads being covered as news?
Media coverage of this election reminds me of the disgraceful behavior of the fourth estate in the run-up to the Iraq war, when the media were basically shills for President Bush. Apparently not enough introspection was done, because the media is at it again.
Posted by: Citizen_Val | September 11, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
McCain is the only candidate ready to lead.
Obama is a Chicago con with associations that I wouldn’t let my kids near.
He’s an embarrassment.
Posted by: Rick from Pa | September 11, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
I read the Illinois bill in question (SB99) and saw the following under section 27-9.1(a): “Each class or course in comprehensive sex education offered in any of grades K through 12 shall include instruction on the prevention of sexually transmitted infections, including the prevention, transmission and spread of HIV.”
This seems to say that kindergarteners will be taught about STDs and, therefore, penetration.
Is that age appropriate?
Posted by: Nicholas Kunz | September 11, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
NEWS ALERT PALIN’S IGNORANCE EXPOSED!
CARIBOU BARBIE TALKS ABOUT INVADING RUSSIA
“US-RUSSIA WAR OVER GEORGIA MAY BE NECESSARY”
DOESN’T KNOW WHAT BUSH DOCTRINE IS.
ABC’s Gibson: What Are Your National Security Credentials?
“My National Security Credentials Have To Do With Energy…”
EVADES QUESTIONS WITH NON ANSWERS.
Posted by: God particle | September 12, 2008, 12:43 am 12:43 am
McSame Voted with Bush 95% of the Time… No Change There!!
McSame has 134 Lobbyists working on his campaign…. No Change There!!
Obama Biden ‘08
Posted by: God particle | September 12, 2008, 12:47 am 12:47 am
Typo McSame voted 91% with Bush…Still No Change There!!
Posted by: God particle | September 12, 2008, 12:50 am 12:50 am
hundreds of Bush appointed cronies have been indicted on corruption and sex offenses… more than any other administration in our History by 10 times!
Posted by: God particle | September 12, 2008, 12:53 am 12:53 am
Republican Family Values in action…
* Republican legislator Robert A. McKee pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography.
* Republican legislator Scott Muschany was charged with molesting a 14-year old girl.
* Republican chief of staff Eric Feltner pleaded guilty to showing pornography to a 13-year old girl.
* Republican presidential campaign official Matthew Joseph Elliott was convicted of sexual exploitation of a child.
* Republican Party Chairman Donald Fleischman was charged with two counts of child enticement, two counts of contributing to the delinquency of a child and a single charge of exposing himself to a child.
* Republican prosecutor John David Roy Atchison was arrested for soliciting sex from a 5-year old girl, then killed himself three weeks later. At the time of his arrest, Atchison was an “assistant U.S. attorney” appointed by President Bush’s attorney general.
* Republican city councilman John Bryan killed himself after police began investigating allegations that he had molested three girls, including two of his adopted daughters, ages 12 and 15.
* Republican legislator Ted Klaudt was charged with raping girls under the age of 16.
*Republican city councilman Joseph Monteleone Jr. was found guilty of fondling underage girls.
* Republican congressional aide Jeffrey Nielsen was arrested for having sex with a 14-year old boy.
* Republican County Commissioner Patrick Lee McGuire surrendered to police after allegedly molesting girls between the ages of 8 and 13.
* Republican prosecutor Larry Corrigan was arrested for soliciting sex from 13-year old girls.
* Republican Mayor Jeffrey Kyle Randall was sentenced to 275 days in jail for molesting two boys — ages ten and 12 — during a six-year period.
* Republican County Board Candidate Brent Schepp was charged with molesting a 14-year old girl and killed himself three days later.
* Republican Congressman Mark Foley abruptly resigned from Congress after “sexually explicit” emails surfaced showing him flirting with a 16-year old boy.
* Republican executive Randall Casseday of the conservative Washington Times newspaper pleaded guilty to soliciting sex from a 13-year old girl on the internet.
* Republican chairman of the Oregon Christian Coalition Lou Beres confessed to molesting a 13-year old girl.
* Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd pleaded guilty to charges of soliciting sex from an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.
* Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
* Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy.
* Republican petition drive manager Tom Randall pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 14, one of them the daughter of an associate in the petition business.
* Republican County Chairman Armando Tebano pleaded guilty to fondling a 14-year-old girl.
* Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins pleaded guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.
* Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker is a convicted child molester.
* Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
* Republican Mayor Tom Adams was arrested for distributing child pornography over the internet.
* Republican Mayor John Gosek was arrested on charges of soliciting sex from two 15-year old girls.
* Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
* Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
* Republican Committeeman John R. Curtin was convicted of molesting an underage teenage boy and sentenced to serve six to 18 months in prison.
* Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.
* Republican zoning supervisor, Boy Scout leader and Lutheran church president Dennis L. Rader pleaded guilty to performing a sexual act on an 11-year old girl he murdered.
* Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.
* Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.
* Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
* Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.
* Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
* Republican advertising consultant Carey Lee Cramer was sentenced to six years in prison for molesting two 8-year old girls, one of whom appeared in an anti-Gore television commercial.
* Republican fundraiser Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
* Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
* Republican Congressman Donald “Buz” Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
* Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.
* Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.
* Republican campaign chairman Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child and was arrested again five years later on the same charge.
* Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.
* Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
* Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer.
* Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
* Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.
* Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. “Republican Marty”), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.
* Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.
* Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.
* Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced prison after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
* Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.
* Republican anti-gay activist Earl “Butch” Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.
* Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
* Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.
* Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
* Republican legislator Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).
* Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was found guilty of molesting a 15-year old girl.
* Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.
* Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.
* Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.
* Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.
* Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.
* Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.
* Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.
* Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.
* Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.
* Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a “good military man” and “church goer,” was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.
* Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.
* Republican campaign worker, police officer and self-proclaimed reverend Steve Aiken was convicted of having sex with two underage girls.
* Republican director of the “Young Republican Federation” Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.
* Republican president of the New York City Housing Development Corp. Russell Harding pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer.
* Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was found guilty of raping a 15-year old girl. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.
* Republican Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld authorized the rape of children in Iraqi prisons in order to humiliate their parents into providing information about the anti-American insurgency. See excerpt of one prisoner’s report here and his full report here.
Posted by: God particle | September 12, 2008, 12:59 am 12:59 am
All this talk about McCain “lying” about Obama makes me wonder–did any other politician that all you democrats love so much ever lie? Oh yeah, Bill Clinton lied to his wife that he had an affair. So why does McCain get all the heat for lying about something that he believes–even though I admit he kind of distorted what Obama was trying to say, but he still doesn’t think inappropriate touching (even if taught as self-defense) shouldn’t be taught to kindergartners. I don’t want my 4-5 year old son taught about that so young either.
I think everyone has to remember that these are politicians we’re talking about and they say whatever they can to win the election.
Posted by: Zack | September 12, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm
I agree Zack. The last thing I want the public education screwing up is teaching my kid about innapropriate touching or where babies come from at the age of 5. No matter how they try to backtrack and spin it, this is what Obama was voting for. He voted to allow teachers to decide about teaching something a parent should be teaching.
Posted by: Kitty | September 14, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm
How terrible! McCain is actually fighting back by bringing Obama’s sex ed for tiny tots to light. How dare he even touch a topic of such importance like this! What does he want to do, spoil Barack’s coronation?
Jen Thalmann
Posted by: Jen Thalmann | September 15, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am
I cant believe this article! Can the news please try to be truthful! instead of believing this rubbish, here’s a real news flash…..read the bill….period.
Have any of you obama supporters or or those who wrote this article even read the bill? read the bill then you will actually be making a truly educated decision right? dont be sheep. news flash its a really good thing obamas bill did not pass,for the 5 year olds, let me say it again his bill did not pass…….guess why…..
Posted by: Noganav | September 16, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
Obama said it best in a debate with Alan Keyes in 2004:
“I have a six-year-old daughter and a three-year-old daughter, and one of the things my wife and I talked to our daughter about is the possibility of somebody touching them inappropriately, and what that might mean. And that was included specifically in the law, so that kindergarteners are able to exercise some possible protection against abuse, because I have family members as well as friends who suffered abuse at that age. So, that’s the kind of stuff that I was talking about in that piece of legislation. ”
Every boy and girl in the school system should know how to tell their parent that someone touched them in a way they should not have. Geesh.
Posted by: C. Daly | September 17, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
If anyone here actually read the Illinois Senate Bill 99, you would see that the title is “Sex Education.” McCain was telling the truth, even if it pisses off democrats. Sure, the bill includes the words “age-appropriate”, but who decides what that means? I don’t want some government bureaucrat or ultra-liberal teacher discussing STDs or sex with my kindergartener. I teach my child about innappropriate touching, by anyone including teachers, but that’s enough for my kindergartener. I don’t want government to decide what should be taught about sex at that age.
Posted by: S.M. | September 17, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
I see that this proposal on sex education for Obama’s campaign is getting out of hand. I do not mind sex education in schools for 6th graders and up, but to kids as young as 4 or 5 years old??? That is a little suspicious. How can you mandate schools throughout the U.S. to teach sex education without parents’ consent??? It is like that in junior high schools and high schools, but not earlier.
In general, government has to stay out of mandating personal-related lifestyles to the public. If the public right now is facing an epidemic of teen pregnancy, STDs, and rape in the children/teen groups, it is a part of parents’ fault also to resolve these issues in this situation.
Posted by: Doctor Of Ghetto | September 25, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
McCain is a dirty old man!
Posted by: Oscar López | October 9, 2008, 11:02 am 11:02 am
Wake up America!! Obama is not the right person for President. For those of you who think this is a lie about sex education for K-5 obviously do not have children or a least do not care enough to protect the innocence of their children. I wish the media would start reporting all the truth and stop being so one sided. What about the nasty ads from Obama? God help us all if Obama is elected president.
Posted by: Robin | October 23, 2008, 1:08 am 1:08 am