By Kate Barrett

Sep 1, 2008 2:28pm

Obama to Media, Politicos on Palin Pregnancy Story: ‘Back Off!’

At a brief press availability in Monroe, Mich., ABC News asked Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., if he had any response to Gov. Sarah Palin’s statement that her unmarried 17-year-old daughter Bristol is pregnant.

"Let me be a clear as possible:  I have said before and I will repeat again, I think people’s families are off limits," Obama said, "and people’s children are especially off limits.

"This shouldn’t be part of our politics," he continued, "It has no relevance to Gov. Palin’s performance as governor, or her potential performance as a vice president.

"And so I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories," he said. "You know my mother had me when she was 18, and how a family deals with issues and, you know, teenage children, that shouldn’t be the topic of our politics and I hope that anybody who is supporting me understands that’s off limits."

Asked about the insinuation from the McCain campaign that the liberal bloggers trafficking in rumors about Palin write for websites that mention Obama, the senator said, "I’m offended by that."

The Democratic presidential nominee said, "There is no evidence at all that any of this involved us. I hope I am as clear as can be – so in case I’m not, let me repeat: We don’t go after people’s families, we don’t get them involved in the politics. It’s not appropriate and it’s not relevant."

Concluded Obama before getting on his campaign bus headed to Milwaukee, Wisc., "Our people were not involved in any way in this and they will not be. And if I ever thought that it was somebody in my campaign that was involved in something like that, they’d be fired."

-Jake Tapper and Sunlen Miller

User Comments

Well I hope we find out what Gov. Palin’s positions are on matters not directly associated with Alaska. That said, I must question Sen. McCain’s judgment and reationale with this pick. It does not strike me that he put his Country First. Party unity maybe, but country?

Posted by: Martymar | September 1, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm

Good for Obama. I heard on Fox that he also said that if he finds out anyone working for his campaign is involved in spreading this stuff or attacking Palin’s daughter, they will be fired.

Posted by: K. Savage | September 1, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm

Leave Gov.Palin’s family issues alone!!! I am an Obama-Biden supporter and I feel this has no part in the election race. Lets discuss the real issues such as, the economy, healthcare, the war, crime in the U.S., and etc. Remember people, its not our daughter who’s pregnant…..

Posted by: Dawn | September 1, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm

I just want to say this is the first time that Obama has truly impressed me.
I’m almost embarrassed for my tough critism of him.
I won’t vote for him but he really stepped up and showed some class.
And I bet he really won over some of the women that were not quite sure of him.
I am thrilled that Obama said “Back Off”. Now if his rudest (not all of them) supporters would show the same class!
McCain/Palin08

Posted by: cindy in nc | September 1, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm

Obama always takes the high road, to bad McCain didn’t when republicans and right wing talk radio was attacking Michelle. Once again, Obama shows better leadership and judgement.

Posted by: leslie | September 1, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm

I too, hope Obama is being genuine, as his mother Ann, was 3 months pregnant when she married Obama Sr. (who had a legal wife back in Kenya)…guess that’s why he bailed on them after two years and went back to Kenya, to have more children with a total of 4 different wives.
McCain/Palin ’08

Posted by: Debra | September 1, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

*to have 8 more children with 4 different wives in total.

Posted by: Debra | September 1, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm

Debra, what is the point of bringing up the bad behavior of Barack Obama’s father? How does any of that have anything to do with either Obama himself or any issues in this campaign? You guys can’t act indignant when people say things about Palin’s family members and then attack Obama for stuff his father did that he had nothing to do with.

Posted by: K. Savage | September 1, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm

Leslie, you need to pay more attention. McCain did say back off from Michelle Obama and I’m proud of him for doing that. Just as I’m proud of Obama saying back off from Palin’s daughter.

Posted by: Mic | September 1, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm

Obama is undoubtedly taking the higher road than the McCain campaign in lieu of a McCain surrogate issuing the threat that if the Democrats attack, it will backfire spectacularly. Obama is helping to illustrate the vast difference in campaign tone.

Posted by: kat | September 1, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm

As a conservative independent who would usually be voting for the Republican, this is why Obama makes it such a tough choice. He is a person of genuine class, whatever other flaws he might have, and what’s clearly good intention.

Posted by: Patrick Ryan | September 1, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm

Belle Star…
I think you are right that Obama doesn’t want to revisit the”punishment” comment or his abortion stance.
But I really believe he means it this time.
I’m mad as hell at the idiots going crazy about this. But they are terrified of Sarah Palin and will do anything to discredit her.
By calling her tailer trash, etc. they are just turning off the small-town people Obama needs so badly.
Obama knows this cruel criticism of Palin will backfire. But I alo believe he is honoring the memory of his mother.
We’ll see if he continues to admonish his supporters
McCain/Palin08

Posted by: cindy in nc | September 1, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

Hell no! – I disagree with Obama on this one only. If you’re running for public office, the highest in this land you should be automatically disqualified if your family morals and standards are not exemplary. Sorry. This is serious business an election.

Posted by: Sarah 2 | September 1, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

Prominent religious conservatives, many of whom have been lukewarm toward McCain’s candidacy, predicted that Palin’s daughter’s pregnancy would not diminish conservative Christian enthusiasm over the vice presidential hopeful.
“I think it’s a very private matter,” said Roberta Combs, president of the Christian Coalition of America. “It’s a matter that should stay in the family and they have to work through it together. My prayers go out to them.”
Added Combs: “We’re excited about the governor and think she’s going to do well.”
Mathew Staver, dean of Liberty University School of Law, said: “We’re all sinners.”
“We all make mistakes. Certainly, the ideal is not to get pregnant out of wedlock. But she made the right decision after her mistake,” he said.
Staver also criticized anyone who would seek to make it a negative campaign issue: “It’s absolutely shameful to put her child in the spotlight. She’s not running for office. When someone can’t face issues, they try to tear down a family.”

Posted by: david from texas | September 1, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm

I would MUCH rather see McCain/Palin in the White House with their Children -
then obama with all his “Friends”
Ayres, Rev. Wright, P-Ditty – what a DISGRACE to our country!

Posted by: Molly | September 1, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm

OBAMA USED COCAINE WHEN HE WAS YOUNG!

Posted by: digid | September 1, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm

Obama is a hypocrite.
Obama said he wouldn’t go after Cindy McCain then later did.
Obama campaign was sending around e-mails pointing to the story to reporters and bringing up abstinence.
Obama lied saying he wouldn’t go after Cindy McCain then did and had the DNC go after her.
The whole campaign is hypocricy.
He should have said that is private matter instead he loves the media attention.
He should have called it a lie as there is now a picture of her being clearly present.
Obama goes on that far leftist site dailykos to post.
No one has ever asked Obama why he lied about saying he had no idea Rezko had any problems when it was later reported he knew Rezko was under federal investigation for influence peddling.

Posted by: Jason | September 1, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm

BIDEN’S SON IS A LOBBYIST, can you trust him?

Posted by: digid | September 1, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm

I don’t think this 17 year old child’s pregnancy should be brought out in the media as well, but Palin should have known that once she accepted this job that she was going to be dragged through the mud. I just think it is sad that now this poor child is going to have to go through an unwanted pregnancy and possible marriage in the public eye. People need to stop with all this nonsense and stick to the issues. Job loss, foreclosures all over the place, a stupid war that seems never ending. Stop all this other nonsense.

Posted by: New York | September 1, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm

I for once believe Obama too.
I still don’t want him to be president.
But he would have to be one horrible person to dishonor the memory of his mom and what she went through.
Trashing Palin about her daughter would also invite backlash from single moms in America.
I still believe in McCain and Sarah.

Posted by: riley | September 1, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm

why is this family off limits? you guys made michelle into a monster and her convention performances were genuine and lovely. at least she does not make airhead comments like cindy mccain when she referred to this train wreck sarah palin having national security experince because alaska is close to russia. no wonder they are having her speak when we are all busy with gustav. I hope this story becomes LARGER than rev wright where we see more about this terrible choice surface. NO we the people of this coutry will not choose a HYPOCRITE who talks family values and does not teach her kids to have any.

Posted by: anu | September 1, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm

Good for Obama. Of course this is what he believes.
This won’t stop the right wing spin machine of trying to pin it on him, of course.
But they will say anything to protect the GOP and their special interests.

Posted by: blip | September 1, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm

OBAMA USED COCAINE, GEORGE BUSH USED COCAINE….. are’nt they both similar?
Obama will be like Bush when he become President, only from democrat side

Posted by: digid | September 1, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm

McCain didn’t vet his VP, and now they’re trying to make that Obama’s fault?
I don’t say this with a smile, and I don’t say this with any joy. But I’m saying this sincerely: time to own your own failures John McCain.

Posted by: dannity | September 1, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm

I’m not an Obama supporter but I can’t agree with his comment enough, we need to turn this election back to issues and not focus on a 17 year old girl’s pregnancy. As a parent I can’t begin to imagine what this family is going through but this is a family issue and it should be private.

Posted by: Kardasia_Prime | September 1, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm

New York: Just because a pregnancy is unexpected or did not happen at a chosen time, DOES NOT mean that the baby is unwanted. Again, my two sisters became pregnant at 16 and 19. Both of them struggled but both of them could not be prouder of their kids.

Posted by: Mic | September 1, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm

Good for Obama. This issue should be left to the families involved.

Posted by: david | September 1, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm

To Patrick Ryan:
Obama said McCain didn’t care about the troops in Iraq when his own 19 year old son was serving in Iraq.
Obama should have said it was a private matter instead of bringing more attention to the daughter.
Obama also blamed McCain for the floods in the midwest when they occured.
Only Obama would talk about this in front of the media to highlight it for his own personal gain. Any thinking politician would say it is a private matter and end of story.

Posted by: James | September 1, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm

I’m sure McCain knew about this BEFORE he chose Palin as VP. It’s just part of the Rovian Game. She will drop out of her own accord and he will be able to choose the right-hand MAN he truly wanted, after having “proved” that he is the true candidate of change (by his willing to select a MAVERICK WOMAN with a history of “going against the establishment”).

Posted by: Laurel | September 1, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm

Obama is correct. Children should be off-limits. But Wright, Ayers, Rezko and his hypocrisies, fakeness, and lies should all be.

Posted by: young_voter | September 1, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm

It’s great… no matter how hard Obama tries to keep things above board.
You have people responding with unfounded attacks: Calling Obama a crackhead and a bastard and unamerican and all the other familiar attacks.
No rest for the wicked.

Posted by: blip | September 1, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm

Anu, Michelle interjects herself into the campaign with her anti american speeches.
THAT makes her fair game. Palin’s daughter did NOTHING.
Nice try though, but you fail miserably.

Posted by: Jo | September 1, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm

Blip,
Experts have tied the Palin smears to Obama’s website. They tried hard to cover their tracks, but they’ve been “outted.”
So quit defending your messiah. He’s guilty.

Posted by: Jo | September 1, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm

Sarah 2. LOL No politician has morals that are exemplary, but we have to chose based upon the best choice for us. Which means individuals need to make the best choice for them.

Posted by: Mic | September 1, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm

Man, today’s media is so far out of bounds with this type of story that it is sickening. No wonder no one trusts the press any more. It is just like Denzel Washington said in the movie “Training Day” while reading the paper, it’s all BS, but it entertains me. These type of reports are not even entertaining. Leave this woman and her family alone!!

Posted by: JRS | September 1, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm

Good for Obama… let’s keep it about the issues.
Economy. War. Foreign Policy. Trade. Education. Social Security. Etc.
If we keep focused on making America better… Obama will win this.
He doesn’t need smears to carry the day.

Posted by: blip | September 1, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm

What do you expect when most of the bloggers pushing this garbage on liberal sites have grown up only really knowing “Karl Rove Politics” where nothing is out of bounds.

Posted by: Jonze | September 1, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm

There’s some real slime merchants on this board. I wonder if McCain will step up and denounce that?

Posted by: dannity | September 1, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm

HYPOCRITE REPUBLICANS. Pontificating to us all the time aabout what is right and what is wrong. Obama is the most genuine person in the political arena. proud supporter. but, let me tell you the enthusiasm for Palin-whoooooosh- gone out the window. Mccain is a coward- he will ask her to step down. mark it. this so called brave man wills see his support slipping and he will ask her to step down and choose Jindal. Or romney or huckabee or someone else. why this woman????????? Obaa is in no danger of losing women. you don’t know how that campaign works and registers voters. he will win in a landslide.

Posted by: anu | September 1, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm

Jo… what “experts”? That is a big load of crap.
What you have is a bunch of overzealous wingnuts spinning out of control stories for no good reason at all.
Obama has no reason to care about what Palin’s family life is like. He can beat McCain on the issues… easily.

Posted by: blip | September 1, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm

I beg to disagree, Sen. Obama. Family matters should in general be off limits but Gov. Palin’s family situation does raise a legitimate question of whether Palin can afford the time to serve as a VP.

Posted by: Chris | September 1, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm

I hope that everyone on both sides of the political arguments step back and consider that all the postings on the internet are “anonymous”, and as such Republicans can pretend to be Democratic bloggers, and vice versa. I can’t believe all the back and forth over the postings when you don’t even know who is really behind the remarks. The only way to make a decision is to do your own research to your own satisfaction and make up your own mind. Many of these posters are paid by their political party to make the other party look partison, hypocritical and inane. The only ones that lose are the bloggers who can’t remain objective enough to realize that in most cases, all is not what it seems. You cannot base your judgments on the comments posted, as they are unverifiable as to their source and their party affiliation.

Posted by: winter99 | September 1, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm

I think Palin is a tough woman. She is going to go through a lot of crap over the next few months.
I believe she can handle it. This will give America a chance to see how she handles this adversity and if people still support her.
Afterall, tough times prove what we are really made of.
I’m really frightened that I actually defended Obama. Scary!
My prayers are with the people on the Gulf.

Posted by: cindy in nc | September 1, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm

<<<>>>
Intersting, so the religious right agrees with Obama that a teenage oregnancy is a “mistake.” Glad we got that settled. I’m kind of offended that she’s being called a “sinner,” though. If Obama called this girl a siner, the conservatives would lose their minds.

Posted by: K. Savage | September 1, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm

So, let me get this straight. I see the DemWits attacking and blaming Sarah Palin for Bristol’s mistake…however, its ok for you to support Obama, who himself, was conceived out of wedlock? Be For Real…you people are hyprocrits!
It’s not Obama’s issues that have made me decide to vote for McCain…its his stupid supporters!
McCain/Palin 08!

Posted by: david from texas | September 1, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm

Why hasn’t McCain declared Jerome Corsi’s book “out of bounds”?
The GOP has decided it cannot win on the issues alone.

Posted by: blip | September 1, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm

Obama had nothing to do with Ms Palin’s daughter getting pregnant, nor her outing. Women are tired of Ms Palin’s holy then thou attitude and did the research ourselves. BYW, we ARE Hillary supporters, unlike some that post here under Hillary;s name.

Posted by: Trish | September 1, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm

They sat in apew and listened to chatter they probably did not even understand at the time. this SEVENTEEN year old girl got herslef FREAKIN PREGNANT. her mother espouses family values. Obama and his family looked great on the day of his acceptance speech. that is what panicked the repubs and hence this trainwreck of a choice. keep spinning its not going to work. this story will be on the front-burner for a lonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng time. it will be good to see how you guys feel when your gal is constantly attacked. Dobson is a sinner and he admitted that himself and that hypocrite wants to influence elections? Mccain took advice from Hagee and he wants to become president?

Posted by: anu | September 1, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm

I don’t think Obama’s worthy stance will put an end to the speculation and inconsistencies behind Palin’s accounts of her and her daughter’s pregnancy.

Posted by: kat | September 1, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm

Pretty bad for Obama when the only press he can get is scolding the press and others about soon to be 17-year old, mother of his opponent, Governor Palin….and reminding them that his mother was 17 when she got pregnant with him and was married (at age 18) 6 months before Obama was born.
Governor Palin has knocked Obama out of the news. That is not good for Obama.

Posted by: Sally J. | September 1, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm

OURS CITIES ARE KEPT GROWING AND GROWING UNDER CONDITIONS OF DRUGS AND PROSTITUTION, OBAMA, WAS VICTIM TOO. THIS IS NOT AN ACCUSTOMED HABIT.HE WAS VERY ANGRY ,WHEN THE PRESS POINTED THAT OUT PUBLIC.//////

Posted by: ENE M DIAZ | September 1, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm

all i want to know is
Who’s the “BABY DADDY”
if I remember, that’s pretty close to what FOX News said about M. Obama (who is married)
I am so tired of the SELF-RIGHTOUS political right. This should teach them a lesson not to through stones

Posted by: toddo | September 1, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm

Huge supporter of Obama but this issue I will not let the media deviate from. They have to keep at it just like the rev wright thing and expose the republicans and their pastors and god-men for the hypocrites they are. sorry Obama- love ya but sick of the repub crap.

Posted by: anu | September 1, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm

Do Kids in Alaska go to College? I support
the Palin’s family with their 19 year old son going to Iraq soon and the 17 year old daughter being pregnant. It is all good news for their family.

Posted by: jesse | September 1, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm

Omongkosong:
Give it a break. All you can do is throw up un-truths!. All you have is Rev. Wright to go back and complain about!
Rev. Wright may have his issues, but I’ll bet you do too!!!!!
Hey, did you read about McCain? Graduated 2nd to last in his class of well over 800-900 hundred people. Wow!
McCain for president huh?????

Posted by: Shay | September 1, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm

I respect Senator Obama for coming out and saying this. McCain/Palin08, Biden08

Posted by: Kitty | September 1, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm

How could McCain stick up for Edwards when the “love child” was a dirty little secret? Comparing Edwards’ actions to Sarah Palin’s daughter’s pregnancy is about as lame as it gets.

Posted by: Stan | September 1, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm

Jo…
I just swallowed my pride and praised Obama and now you say his camp may be behind this.
If that is true–if someone finds that out I would say Obama is toast.
I do not like him, his arrogance, Rev Wright, etc. but I pray he was sincere by telling supporters to back off.
McCain/Palin08

Posted by: cindy in nc | September 1, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm

This is why Obama should be president. He displays good judgment and good leadership.
Yeah yeah yeah, GOP operatives are hypocrites. Not exactly breaking news.
Breaking news? Peaceful protesters enduring tear gas at the RNC in St. Paul. But, guess we don’t care how the Republicans actually DO treat citizens.

Posted by: LiberalTarian | September 1, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm

I really feel this speaks to the judgment issue – as a financial professional who owns their own successful business and also the mother of 2 children in their late teens, I would sacrifice any success or situation that would be harmful to my children. Why would this mother knowingly subject her daughter to the intense scrutiny and public humiliation this situation is sure to generate? Of course this is a private family matter, but Gov Palin should have known that this information would put her daughter and her family in the national spotlight just when the daughter is in need of some semblance of control in her own life. No mother I know would have continued with her own ambitions under these circumstances. Clearly, her own political aspirations have clouded her judgment – and isn’t that what she is being lauded for?

Posted by: bmarley | September 1, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm

Bravo, Obama! Thanks for standing up for what’s right. The pregnancy of Gov. Palin’s unmarried 17-year-old daughter should not be fodder for bloggers or the media. And thanks, Senator Obama, for doing what Senator McCain has promised but failed to do — run a civil campaign based on the issues instead of one that is characterized by smears, personal attacks, and Bush/Rove tactics.

Posted by: Jim | September 1, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm

Hey Shay is a fact!
Obama used cocaine, his daughters sat in the pew listen to Rev. Wright!

Posted by: Omongkosong | September 1, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm

Belle Star at 3:05….PERFECT POST. Every word a truth.
McCAIN/PALIN ’08

Posted by: Debra | September 1, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm

You Republicans are always willing to trust a LIE! You don’t have a clear thought about anything! You believe everything you hear, and if you don’t hear it you make it up!!!! Disgusting!
The media got a hold of news regarding Palin’s daughter! Put the blame where it belongs! Palin and her daughter! Enough said!

Posted by: Shay | September 1, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm

Obama is “afraid” of Palin? That’s a laugh. Obama/Biden is leading McCain/Palin by 6 points in the Gallup today. They lead in every other poll too. McCain got absolutely no bounce from putting this unqualified bimbo on his ticket.

Posted by: K. Savage | September 1, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm

the press will give palin a pass on this like they have repeatedly giving mccain a pass on all his stuff, including picking palin in the first place. and in the end if mccain is elected the press will give mccain a pass and wont challenge him like they didnt question and challenge bush, which will result in our country going right back to war for bad reasons. i wish the press would do their job so the blogs wouldnt have to do it for them.

Posted by: toddo | September 1, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm

Clearly, since Sarah Palin believes in faith based birth control, this is a faith based pregnancy.
Gov. Palin would do us all a favor if she bowed out citing “family concerns”. This is turning out to be an Eagleton candidacy.

Posted by: PJ | September 1, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm

I am life long Dem and my heart goes out to the entire Palin family. Any parent of teenagers who has had the “big talk” knows that instilling values is no guarantee. The shoals of adolescence are rocky and perilous. And pity that poor 17 year old boy father – who is now is an international spotlight. It does give one pause to try to imagine what the right wing hate squad would be saying – if the suddenly tight shoe were on the other foot.

Posted by: nh bob | September 1, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm

“McCain got absolutely no bounce from putting this unqualified bimbo on his ticket.”
Maybe. Maybe not.

Posted by: Carl | September 1, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm

Obama doesn’t know what to do with himself with media on hurrican and Go. Palin since Friday morning….even with the spectacle last week and mass media coverage and a week after Biden announced….

Posted by: Debra | September 1, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm

the press will give palin a pass on this like they have repeatedly giving mccain a pass on all his stuff, including picking palin in the first place. and in the end if mccain is elected the press will give mccain a pass and wont challenge him like they didnt question and challenge bush, which will result in our country going right back to war for bad reasons. i wish the press would do their job so the blogs wouldnt have to do it for them.

Posted by: toddo | September 1, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm

obama did this because he knew this would backfire big times!!! as should have all his supporters.
first it was hillary and her daughter and now sarah and her daughter-are you starting to see a pattern here? i do they are all women.
i painfully remember the way hillary’s daughter was treated and harassed by obama supporters. shame on you. we will not let you do it again…you guys sound really really desperate/pathetic.
hillary supporter

Posted by: sonia trevino | September 1, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm

As a middle-aged woman, I am insulted that McCain and his campaign think women are so shallow that they will overlook anything in order to support a woman. I love how the “don’t do as I do do as I say” is front and center of the Republican platform in regard to the Palin daughter pregnancy. It reminds me of the “pay no attention to the (wo)man behind the curtain!!!!!”

Posted by: das2 | September 1, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm

I fail to understand why this brief article would anger anyone and many of the comments here spew nothing, but anger and downright hatred. An old proverb once said: He who angers me, controls me. Think about it. Think about how anger affects your life and your happiness.

Posted by: Bev | September 1, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm

When does Obama get his bounce in the polls? Not after Hillary dropped out, not after world tour disaster, not after Biden, not after rock concert Convention….

Posted by: Debra | September 1, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm

david from texas:
If your skin is so thin that you would vote for McCain because of the someone else’s supporter’s, you have a lot of growing up to do!

Posted by: Shay | September 1, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm

sonia trevino what planet are you from. comparing hillary to palin. if i remember correctly, hillary and bill raised a wonderful, intelligent beautiful daughter who has gone to college and who made a positive contribution to her mother’s campaign. palin’s daughter contribution so far, well you know…

Posted by: toddo | September 1, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm

Well, Obama do not worry about your stuff getting involved, that’s the work of the National Enquirer. Remember what they did with John Edwards?

Posted by: Jay | September 1, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm

You cannot tell me that he didn’t know his supporters/his base on the ultra left wings blogs had not posted this days ago. He was right to say back off. He would had been creamed to said otherwise. Move on dot org supports him and look how they demean conservatives. What about that, Obama!

Posted by: Christie | September 1, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm

Palin is NO HILLARY CLINTON. I repeat, Palin is NO HILLARY CLINTON. Hillary is an ALL STAR, Palin is still trying out for the minor leagues.

Posted by: toddo | September 1, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm

There is nothing wrong with the poor girl getting herself into a pickle. The only problem I have with the whole announcement is the timing. What better time than during a major national disaster? I agree Palin should have NOT accepted the VP position because of ALL the excess baggage. It would have been the responsible thing to do in the interest of the Republican party.

Posted by: Wallysmom | September 1, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm

Notice how the majority of Republican posts are all about some tangential issue – never a truth discussion of issues or positions. Palin’s daughter should be no part of this – but her running for Gov. in 06 praising the Bridge to Nowhere – and now pretending she was against it – now that is an issue. And when she pulled the plug on the project as Gov. – did she give the money back to the taxpayers? That’s a big no. She spent the pork money on other pork projects. Now that is a issue. This daughter thing and bashing people Obama has known is just silly Swiftboat garbage.

Posted by: nh bob | September 1, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm

All I can say is thank you Sen McCain for handing us the White House on a silver platter! McCain good judgement? That’s a laugh! Obama/Biden08/12:)

Posted by: Orlando B. Fremont Ohio | September 1, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm

Debra, Obama got a ten point bump in the polls after the convention. He was leading by 8 on friday, stayed at 8 on saturday and now it’s 6. McCain got nothing from the Palin pick and will get nothing from the convention. It’s all over. McCain threw the Hail Mary and it landed harmlessly incomplete. That’s the ballgame. Obama is going to win. make your peace with it. God is on his side.

Posted by: K. Savage | September 1, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm

Palin is NO HILLARY CLINTON. I repeat, Palin is NO HILLARY CLINTON. Hillary is an ALL STAR, Palin is still trying out for the minor leagues.

Posted by: toddo | September 1, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm

“Palin’s daughter should be no part of this”
Next time, post this in all CAPs. I don’t think the majority of the liberal arm animals get it.

Posted by: Don | September 1, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm

Obama shows class in this. Let’s see if he can persuade his surrogates to behave with as much sensibility. Unfortunately for Obama and the election, there is a long history of Obama taking the high road while his supporters take another.
Maybe ruthless pursuit of power isn’t the best way to get it done. Palin is where she is because she is determined, but also because she put her family first and in Alaska, they respect that. It could be we have something to learn from Americans in small towns who still raise a flag, raise a garden, and raise a baby.
Congratulations, Grandma.

Posted by: len | September 1, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm

Obama has been totally consistent in saying that families are off-limits to political criticism. Let’s leave the Palin family out of this. Sarah Palin’s political stance and background fuel enough of a fire to flame out McCain’s campaign without any more combustibles.

Posted by: Dee | September 1, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm

Agree 100% with Obama that the family members should be off limits!
However, what CANNOT be off limits is the fact that Sarah Pollen LIED and deceived Americans as to her so-called fifth pregnancy!
LIED about her ‘water breaking’ and she flew all the way to Alaska to give birth to Trig.
LYING in a leader goes to her LACK OF TRUSTWORTHINESS!
LYING by a President and VP got Americans KILLED by the thousands in Iraq!

Posted by: Patriot | September 1, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm

He is sincere and that’s admirable but he can say what he wants…. no one (media and pundits) in their right mind is going to give her a pass…on any of it!

Posted by: tia | September 1, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm

Obama pulls me back from the brink many times. It’s so easy to be resentful of Republicans and get caught up. He is a wonderful leader in many ways and I listen to him.

Posted by: RobinL | September 1, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm

“Debra, Obama got a ten point bump in the polls after the convention. He was leading by 8 on friday, stayed at 8 on saturday and now it’s 6.”
Ummm… K. Savage, that means Obama got a bounce, and now he’s falling as the Palin pick sinks in. Further, since these daily tracking polls are 3-day rolling averages, the Palin announcement and more positive public reaction than the Biden pick hasn’t been factored in completely.
Math wasn’t your strong point, was it?

Posted by: Chistoph | September 1, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm

The simple fact is that most women stand against what Ms. Palin is for. McCain’s VP pic is a short term buzz followed by a long term hangover.

Posted by: Bev | September 1, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm

Barack Obama is a smart man to advise that we back off of Palin’s daughter. Yes, it is a very personal decision to have a child, especially an unmarried minor, and Gov. Palin’s press release stating she is “proud of Bristol’s decision to have her baby” reflects the appropriate privacy of that choice.

Posted by: Charles | September 1, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm

Re: Palin is NO HILLARY CLINTON. I repeat, Palin is NO HILLARY CLINTON. Hillary is an ALL STAR, Palin is still trying out for the minor leagues.
She doesn’t claim to be Hillary. McCain picked her for the reforms she has made in her state. Palin is a star coming up in the GOP! Keep on hating on her, it will make the base back her even stronger. I don’t hate Hillary, just disagree with her ideas. Hillary is a strong woman and that’s ok too.

Posted by: Christie | September 1, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm

With all due respect to Senator Obama, this unfortunate happening says quite a bit about Sarah Palin. While we should leave Bristol out of any discussion, her mother is a different story.
For starters, it’s hard to believe that she told John McCain about this pregnancy before he chose her.

Posted by: Madame Defarge | September 1, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm

No matter how many times you talk with teenagers about safe sex, no sex… if they want to do it, they are going to. Her daughter would have done it weither Palin was a stay at home mother or the working mother that she is. They will alway find a way.

Posted by: Jill | September 1, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm

If it was the other way around, McCain’s response would most likely be “No comment”. I’m proud to be a democrat and a strong supporter of Barack Obama.

Posted by: Kathy | September 1, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm

This is consistent with Obama taking the higher ground and not making hay of the fact that the mother Sarah Palin preached abstinence and failed to prevent the daughter from practising conservative values.

Posted by: gjkotw01 | September 1, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm

ROTFLMAO!!! This news combined with the news of Palin’s husband’s arrest for D.W.I. should put an end to McSame’s campaign. Mrs. “Family Values” seems to be awash in sin, and yet she has the nerve to pretend to be righteous and right. Well, as far as I’m concerned, these people can put their “family values” where the sun don’t shine because that’s about what they’re worth. This woman cannot even teach her 17 year old daughter right from wrong, and yet she would prance about with the gall to tell everyone about “family values”. I knew McSame was insane the day his choice of this woman for the V.P. spot on the G.O.P. ticket was announced. But, I didn’t realize how soon his lack of judgment and experience would be revealed to the world. Now, we all know, and all you McSame supporters can hide your heads in shame, as the senile, old man is given a fitting good bye party at the G.O.P. convention. Obama/Biden 08!!!

Posted by: caliguy55 | September 1, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm

Re: woman is a fraud and a hypocrite. This is what happens to extremist idiots
and this is not an extreme mean spirited statement.

Posted by: Christie | September 1, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

“…failed to prevent the daughter from practising conservative values.”
Ummmm, can you elaborate on just how anyone prevents a 17 year old from exploring sex? This should be good.

Posted by: Don | September 1, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm

Excellent move Obama. Stay above the mud slinging. The more the republicans and their supporters sling mud at you and the more you take the high road, the better you look and the more people are reminded of the kind of choice they have this election. When someone lacks substance they attack personally instead of focusing on the issues. Most Americans dont care if Palin is actually mother or grandmother of Trig, if Bristol is really pregnant or if this is a story to defuse Sarah’s pregnancy rumors. What matters to most of us now is the economy and the war in Iraq and good health care. I hope you continue to press on the issues and let the best man/woman win.

Posted by: trinity29 | September 1, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

Will Sarah Palin as Vice President advocate no birth control whatsoever?

Posted by: Pete M | September 1, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

“Good point blip! The problem with this woman is her daughter’s pregnancy goes to the heart of why Palin was chosen in the first place.”
She’s is pro-life and her daughter is having the baby instead of aborting it. Next.

Posted by: Mack | September 1, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm

While it’s beyond the scope of mere mortals to judge the pregnancy itself, it is stunning that John McCain, either picked a running mate with this kind of family drama going on, or more likely, that Sarah Palin lied to him.
If John McCain’s candidacy is this messed up from day 3, how is going to run the country for 4 years?

Posted by: Madame Defarge | September 1, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm

“Will Sarah Palin as Vice President advocate no birth control whatsoever?”
Yes and in fact she will visit all citizens to ensure that they are not using birth control.

Posted by: Mack | September 1, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm

While I agree that Palin’s daughter’s life should be off limits, Palin’s own decision to accept the nomination raises serious questions about her judgment. I would hope that any mother or father of a child with a serious disability and a teenage child who is pregnant before the nomination, would forgo the ego boost of a long-shot political campaign and take family responsibilities first.

Posted by: Bill- Vancouver | September 1, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm

Had she not been a staunch proponent of abstinance only policies and an opponent of birth control and sex education in schools, I would agree that this would be off limits. But asking why none of these things worked for her daughter when she wants to force them on everyone else’s kids is certainly a legitimate and, I would think, an unavoidable question.

Posted by: cleveyucks | September 1, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm

“While it’s beyond the scope of mere mortals to judge the pregnancy itself, it is stunning that John McCain, either picked a running mate with this kind of family drama going on, or more likely, that Sarah Palin lied to him.”
If she had an abortion then you may have a story. Someone that is pro-life that is having a baby is not news. Desperation.

Posted by: Mack | September 1, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm

Obama is right. His campaign team has nothing to do with what happened. It was McCain for trying to play poker with the Vice Presidential Seat and careless vetting process.
The media is in a frenzy to find a smoking gun on this lady, not because she’s a republican, or a woman, but because she is not known, was not vetted properly, and most importantly she could become the next president if and when McCain croaks. For a man who picked up the argument the Candidates should not be on OJT it is proof the Republican party’s only goal is power not the people’s or the nations safety, security and progress.
Because of McCain’s stupid ploy to attract Hillary voters with a PTA president, mayor of 6,000, 18 month Gov of a far away state with a population equal to that of Ft. Worth, TX primarily sitting on ice and so geographically different than the other 50, no foreign experience, no national experience, no knowledge of the constitution, no idea what the VP exactly does… the citizens joined the media in an immediate blogging hunt for anything that could, in the future, jepordize the VP and Presidential SEAT. At this time Alaska is flooded with reporters at their own will.. to finish McCain’s vetting process! This of course is the same procedure Republicans have use against the Democrats for decades and now the shoe is on the other foot.
The Who You Real Momma drama was not started by the democrats. They were picked up from multiple local written gossip articles and blogs on the woman which includes unethical firings for personal and political reasons. Yes there is a 2nd accusation at this moment. That alone is a warning to what someone having the power and authority as VP might do in the name of Moral Majority Leadership.
Can’t wait for the debates!

Posted by: Ana | September 1, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm

Re: If John McCain’s candidacy is this messed up from day 3, how is going to run the country for 4 years?
I think you should read the article in TIME before you demean John McCain. McCain was told and he didn’t see any problem with this. Neither do I.

Posted by: Christie | September 1, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm

Re: If she had an abortion then you may have a story. Someone that is pro-life that is having a baby is not news. Desperation.
Amen.

Posted by: Christie | September 1, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm

Palin needs to focus on raising her children instead of running for VP. She has a three month old and a pregnant teenager; now tell me as a mother, what is more important her children or her job!

Posted by: onaje | September 1, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm

“Palin needs to focus on raising her children instead of running for VP.”
And Barry and Michelle both work and have 2 young children. And your point was again?

Posted by: Mack | September 1, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm

Oh Boy! Let’s see if Obama really cleans house and gets rid of the kid bashers.

Posted by: irma | September 1, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

Obama, please start with the talking heads from your campaign, then media then DAILY KOS, the hate sellers.

Posted by: irma | September 1, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm

Palin’s daughter is off limits but Palin’s support for abstinence-only sex education isn’t. If after this she were to publicly admit that those positions were wrong, my respect for her would increase immensely.

Posted by: jim | September 1, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm

So what, all politicians flip-flop on issues. If it is for the good of this nation and they don’t hold on to two views, yeah why not. How about Obama has he not flip-flopped in a span of a few hours? Not just once but at least twice. Has he not supported two or more views on the same issue? So Obama supporters, is this the best you got? At least Plagin changed her mind when she realized taxpayers money were being wasted. And please stop blaming her for her teenage daughter’s pregnancy? It is pathetic. If she encourage her daughter to have an abortion when she is a pro-life, go ahead attack her. At least she did not advocate family values and later cheated on her spouse liked Edward. At least she did not advocate Campaign Finance Reform and later reject public financing liked Obama.

Posted by: FortuneFavorsTheBrave | September 1, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm

It appears that The Media will stoop to ANY level to try to derail McCain and Palin…ABC especially. By the way, what happend to the story about Biden’s backing the new Bankruptcy bill (while his SON was an exec at MBNA Credit Cards at the time…) which is now being identified as a source for the massive amount of foreclosures going on?? hmmmm? Oh, I forgot, he’s the Chosen One’s running mate, and THAT topic DOES have to do with the election..silly me!

Posted by: angus | September 1, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm

Palin needs to focus on raising her children instead of running for VP. She has a three month old and a pregnant teenager; now tell me as a mother, what is more important her children or her job!
Not many women could do this. She should be admired. Women/mothers are the base/bedrock of any family and she could be strong for our nation. Some women as men are very offended by strong women.

Posted by: Christie | September 1, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm

Oh Boy! Let’s see if Obama really cleans house and gets rid of the kid bashers.
Posted by: irma
At least he didn’t pick this harpy as his VP!

Posted by: roxanne | September 1, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm

Teenage pregnancy happens whether you are a good parent or a bad parent to your children.

Posted by: FortuneFavorsTheBrave | September 1, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm

This issue is not just about someone who is pro-life deciding to keep a baby. This is about a candidate who espouses superior “family values” who fails to put her own family before her own ambitions, who has a 17 year old daughter that has obviously not absorbed the “conservative values” that she is trying to stuff down the throats of the nation, who cannot take time out of her own aspirations to give her disabled infant the motherly care and attention it needs and deserves. This ploy by the McCain campaign is insulting to the many intelligent, accomplished women in this country who truly live the “family values” that have made this country great. Judgment is not a cloak you can take on and off as you see fit. Why, why, why would this woman subject her daughter to the scrutiny that was certain to come about as a result of her nomination? Prior to the selection of Gov Palin, I was on the fence for my vote, but I could NEVER vote for a ticket that so clearly exhibits judgment that would be a disaster for this country!!

Posted by: das2 | September 1, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm

Palin’s daughter’s pregnancy is relevant when her mother and W advocate a abstinence only policy for the rest of us

Posted by: Victor Harris | September 1, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm

Not sure all those demorcates understand the bible. The democrates dream was to put Obama in a temple. They need to study the ten commandments yet? They Obama camp made Obama an Idiol in a temple for the people that came to see him. I going to watch for the rainbow for the RNC the dream of MLK

Posted by: Gloria | September 1, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm

If Palin doesn’t know what happens in her house, it makes you wonder how she will lead the country. Of course, teens will be teens, but surely the Governor of a US State has spoken with her 16 year old daughter about birth control?!?!
Is the GOP using this poor girl as a pawn?

Posted by: Daniel | September 1, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm

Obama has no choice but to say this as the Republicans are blaming him of course. Why is she announcing it? When the Republicans speak of family values what do they mean? Most of us cannot afford to have five, six, seven children. It is difficult in “real life” to make ends meet these days with less than five children. And yes, why is this family to be untouched. Should we wait until its all said and done and then find out these things.
Does being a Republican mean the laws, rules and policies don’t apply to you? You’re above everything, the media can’t say anything negative about you only Obama? Maybe, just maybe she has a WHOLE LOT to hide!

Posted by: Maureen | September 1, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm

We should care about the INTEGRITY OF OUR LEADERS!
Sarah Pollen is a LIAR and a deceiver!
Sarah Pollen:
Lied about her so-called ‘fifth pregnancy’!
Lied about Bristol being ‘five months pregnant’!
Lied about SECOND pregnancy!
Last time President & VP LIED, thousands of Americans DIED in Iraq, along with hundreds of thousands of INNOCENT Iraqis!
We shouldn’t care about Sarah Pollen’s family, except if there is a case of incest!
We should care about the INTEGRITY OF OUR LEADERS!

Posted by: Patriot | September 1, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm

“Palin’s daughter’s pregnancy is relevant when her mother and W advocate a abstinence only policy for the rest of us”
So if you don’t want to practice abstinence then don’t. It’s still a free country.

Posted by: Mack | September 1, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm

Roxanne – your post was ugly. Palin decided that her daughter not have an abortion (unlike Obama who says he doesn’t want his daughters to be punished) says a lot about Palin’s values. Bristol will get married. What would you do is an entirely personal decision! What happened to the leftists who cry foul when it comes to a woman’s right to choose!!!! It’s only right to abort, but there’s hell to pay if you keep the baby. You can tell you kids everyday about safe sex, but there’s NO garauntee that it won’t have sex! These people who are being nasty probably don’t even have kids. No one said parenting was easy! Take the plank out of your eye before you take the spinter out of someone else’s.

Posted by: justrighttoo | September 1, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm

I am going to have to disagree with Obama on this one and agree with an earlier post on this board. A couple of months ago, Obama was talking to a black church about responsibility and teen black girls not getting pregnant. Now we have the VP’s candidate’s 17 year old daughter pregnant. The same rule that applies to black girls in the ghetto, apply to white girls that have a parent that is a politician. Her mother should have been more responsible and taught her about contraceptives.

Posted by: kelly | September 1, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm

Both candidates have millions of supporters and some of them are going to be jerks. People are people. The candidates cannot control that, but it is nice when they at least make an effort to discourage it.

Posted by: jock59801 | September 1, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm

Clearly all women with careers should STOP having careers and go home with their families until nothing at all is happening in the family, and then they can go get a little job, somewhere, again.
You guys are some feminists.

Posted by: Mari | September 1, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm

Sorry big O… When you are on the national stage claiming to be a holier than thou Christian and your underage daughter gets pregnant its’ fair game.
How many other pregnancies for the kids, is that coming out next! Sarah – if youcan’t control your kids how can you possibly help controlling the government! BTW – Sarah,greatjob on all te firings, the state police, the librarian etc…!

Posted by: Snoop | September 1, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm

I am certainly glad so many people agree that Obama is correct when he insists (or commands) that candidates’ families and children should not be subjected to political attack. I only wish he had said the same thing when Hillary and Pres. Clinton were accused of “pimping out Chelsea” during the primary.
Yes, there’s nothing like hypocrisy.

Posted by: Yavo Lem | September 1, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm

re: Is the GOP using this poor girl as a pawn?
Come on, Daniel. Parents cannot follow their kids around at school, at the mall, at the movies nor record their every move. They have their own BRAINS and their individually. Teens will explore sex, ok.

Posted by: Christie | September 1, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm

Obama has no choice but to say this as the Republicans are blaming him of course. Why is she announcing it? When the Republicans speak of family values what do they mean? Most of us cannot afford to have five, six, seven children. It is difficult in “real life” to make ends meet these days with less than five children. And yes, why is this family to be untouched. Should we wait until its all said and done and then find out these things.
Does being a Republican mean the laws, rules and policies don’t apply to you? You’re above everything, the media can’t say anything negative about you only Obama? Maybe, just maybe she has a WHOLE LOT to hide!

Posted by: Maureen | September 1, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm

First off I’m a mom of three and a grandmother of 4. I think this pregnancy is a huge issue. Kids need everything, especially when they are pregnant. What happens if Palen should become the president and her daughter is having a complicated pregnancy or delivery, she’s only 17. Will she be running the country if we’re in crisis or will she be acting as a grandma. Dad will be out on a fishing boat and she’ll want her mom to be there. I think this is a huge issue. Will she pick her childs welfare or the countries best interrests? I’m not condeming this young lady either. My child was also pregnant at 17. She needed me constantly, it took the whole family to help her through her pregnancy. I think Mrs. Palen should step down and raise her family.

Posted by: R Jess | September 1, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm

Contrasted with…. “I don’t know why she said that, but I have always been proud of my country”. (CM)
But hey, “you gotta keep your sense of humor” (JM)

Posted by: Lydia | September 1, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm

“I’m amazed at how many of you “Americans” don’t recognize the columns of WASHINGTON DC!”
He was in a football stadium, not Washington DC.

Posted by: Mack | September 1, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm

That’s ok Obama has too say that because he is better than that but I’m not. If the republicans can send hatchet men out to attack rev. wright and the people at that church, then attack michelle then attack anyone else then whats good for the goose is good for the gander. And he doesn’t have to fire me because I am republican who just doesn’t like Mccain or the way that party is acting so he can count on me to pick the hatchet up for him.

Posted by: Real republican | September 1, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm

President Bush and the Gov support abstinence only education, which can result in young people being ignorant about how to prevent unwanted pregnancies. I assume that Gov Palin used abstinence only to teach her daughter about sex. Isn’t this evidence that this education method does not work?

Posted by: Victor Harris | September 1, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm

This is a family matter and should not make any part of news. If someone decides to have many kids or no kids at all it is their business. To suggest that some of us would have more kids for tax benefit is nonsense. It smacks of arrogance.

Posted by: worldsam | September 1, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm

Re: Her mother should have been more responsible and taught her about contraceptives.
I am sure she taught her to take the responsibility of a child vs as you like to see.. play it safe and have no accidents. Obama is for late term abortions and for not having/supporting a doctor in the room to assist a baby that was born alive. How inhumane is that. You people are hard to even think about figuring out. You’re suppose to be for the poor, the innocent.

Posted by: Christie | September 1, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm

Maureen is right. Now, my mother was an only child. She and my dad had 7 of us. I suspect that this was one of several reasons that I never wanted children.

Posted by: roxanne | September 1, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm

Peach
Like all political blogs, DailyKos has both civil and uncivil people posting on it. They try to weed out the nastier stuff, but as an open forum, anonymous posters are usually allowed their freedon of speech.

Posted by: jock59801 | September 1, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm

MARI WROTE:
Clearly all women with careers should STOP having careers and go home with their families until nothing at all is happening in the family, and then they can go get a little job, somewhere, again.
You guys are some feminists.
—————————
That’s not what we’re saying all. We’re criticizing the fact that this is a circumstance where the stakes are unusually high. We’re also calling Sarah Palin on her decision to go forward knowing her teenage daughter is pregnant and she’d set her up (AND SOMEONE’S SON!)for the media meat grinder. Look at how Chelsea Clinton and Amy Carter were slammed just because of their LOOKS!!

Posted by: kate | September 1, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm

Classy response from Obama, as usual. That said, I think it is legitimate to question Gov. Palin about her opposition to what she derides as “explicit” sex education in the schools.

Posted by: Patrick | September 1, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm

EVERYONE!
Take a step back and a deep breath and answer this question honestly:
What would have happened had Barack Obama had a seventeen year old daughter who became pregnant out of wedlock?
What would the right be saying?
What would the Christian Fundies be saying?
Let me guess….

Posted by: Lou | September 1, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm

Obama has as much to do with this story as McCain has to do with the smears against Obama.
Except that McCain hasn’t spoken out against the Obama smears.

Posted by: cincyr | September 1, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm

“If the republicans can send hatchet men out to attack rev. wright and the people at that church, then attack michelle then attack anyone else then whats good for the goose is good for the gander.”
An America hating racist and a pregnant 17 year old. I don’t see the correlation.

Posted by: Mack | September 1, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm

I don’t think the issue is for women to subrogate their career until their children leave home – I think the salient issue is that if you make the decision to have five children (especially one with developmental disabilities), you should honor your first obligations before you take on more. Also, it is naive to treat the Vice-Presidency of the United States, especially in these globally trying times, as just another job that can be juggled with proper work/life balance. If your career is your primary focus, then appropriate personal decisions should be made. I am always teaching my children that there are consequences to every decision that they make, sometimes far into the future. It is irresponsible to ignore the demands of raising five children and act as if anyone who questions this is anti-feminist. Maybe true feminism is recognizing the important role both parents play in the lives of their children. Any working, professional woman knows that the “do it all Mom” is an illusion, and that that life requires a string of compromises and settlements that few speak publicly about. This fascade about the “super woman” and her family again speaks to the judgment of Sen McCain/Gov Palin and her decision to accept the nomination with the knowledge that her family would be subjected to glaring scrutiny.

Posted by: das2 | September 1, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm

What the heck? I didn’t realize how much of the daily language consists of names against women. Ladies WAKE UP!

Posted by: irma | September 1, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm

And for all of those who agree with Obama not to make it an issue, just answer this, If the shoe was on the other foot and one of his daughter was the pregnant one do you think that O’reilly and hannity would not be on the TV and radio with Rush tearing them up?

Posted by: Real republican | September 1, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm

What’s galling is this: When the subject is a pregnancy to an unwed, minority teenage mother growing up in some (presumably Democratic) urban area, that pregnancy becomes fodder for lectures from conservatives about bad parenting, the perils of welfare spending and so on. But when the subject is a pregnancy to an unwed, white teenager from some small town in a Republican state, that pregnancy is…a celebration of the wonders of God..

Posted by: kate | September 1, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm

Stan
Where is this “Greek God-like model” you are so upset about? If you are talking about the acceptance speech, I saw columns in the background similar to many you would find in Washington, D.C. Hardly a travesty, I think.

Posted by: jock59801 | September 1, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm

I don’t won’t to sound like a one note poster her, but the Gov Palin’s daughter’s pregnancy is a relevant issue when her and the GOP want to for abstinence only education policy on the entire nation.

Posted by: victor harris | September 1, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm

Hey, lets put the blame where the blame belongs.
God bless and good luck to the young Palin girl.
She had sex. teenagers do that. She got pregnant. That happens.
But why would you as a parent expose your daughter to what is out there by stepping onto the biggest and most vicious political stage in the world?

Posted by: Lou | September 1, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm

As a UK reader one wonders how much choice this young girl is actually going to get over her pregnancy. With all the media spotlight now directly on her mum and her career will be the centre of attention. I only hope the phrase “she will marry the father” was a choice the girl and the dad made.

Posted by: Dave | September 1, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm

Obama already said that this is a hands off issue. Please follow his lead…..

Posted by: Leonard | September 1, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm

Somebody knew that Bristol was pregnant on Friday, but I do not who? I noticed on Friday the daughter was carrying the baby in a huge blanket, too. Then, the family shot on the HP– with Bristol in the black baby doll dress– made me think that she was pregnant or had not lost the baby weight. If McCain knew about the daughter’s pregnancy, why wasn’t Palin becoming a grandmother in a few months not part of the initial story on Friday when she was rolled out?

Posted by: Bison | September 1, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm

My friends, please do not attack this 17 year old child, do not attack her mother for her holier-than thou stance, do not attack McCain for his verbal attacks on Chelsea Clinton when she was just 13 years old, do not attack the Republicans for saying hateful things regarding Malia Obama’s outfit at the convention, do not attack Governor Palin’s comments regarding inter-racial marriages/children, do not attack her for having a 4 month old baby and dragging him on the rigorous campaign trail, do not attack Karl Rove for calling Joe Biden a “blowhard doofus”, do not attack the religious right for “praying that torrential rain would fall on Obama as he gives his acceptance speech.” Just sit still and feel sorry for them, because they are a sad sack of people! Sad sack!

Posted by: Andrea | September 1, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm

“What’s galling is this: When the subject is a pregnancy to an unwed, minority teenage mother growing up in some (presumably Democratic) urban area, that pregnancy becomes fodder for lectures from conservatives about bad parenting, the perils of welfare spending and so on. ”
I believe in this circumstance the mother of the baby and her family will support the baby and in the case of the inner-city girl having a baby, we will all be paying to care for her baby.

Posted by: Mack | September 1, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm

Mack
Nice try but all we have to do is look at how crowded China is! Birth control is the way to go. Not abstinence because it doesn’t work…just look at Palin’s own daughter!

Posted by: roxanne | September 1, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm

Mack,
What makes you think it would be a punishment.
I have a cousin in her 40′s who had a baby girl when she was 16 and she did and is doing great; a close family and her own business.
I know that not all teenage pregnancies turn out well, but many do.

Posted by: Lou | September 1, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm

This is not a matter for public discussion. It’s a private family matter.

Posted by: fromtheshadows | September 1, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm

What the heck? I didn’t realize how much of the daily language consists of names against women. Ladies WAKE UP!
Posted by: irma
I don’t have any children out of wedlock so, they’re not talking about me.

Posted by: roxanne | September 1, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm

By Palin announcing that her teenage daughter is pregnant is supposed to deflect from the flake baby rumor, but instead it suggest that this is her daughters second pregnancy. Her daughter’s pregnancy makes it clear that the abstinence-only doesn’t work for preventing teen pregnancies. Palin wants to keep other teenagers in America from getting birth control information and devices. Palin is anti-birth-control, and anti-sex-education for teens aside from abstinence-only. The point here, are there two or one teenage pregnancies by a daughter of a policy making who advocates no sex-education for teens aside from abstinence-only? Her daughter’s pregnancy makes it clear that the abstinence-only doesn’t work for preventing teen pregnancies.

Posted by: Bison | September 1, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm

Why is Obama’s name being brought up in this when he has the “family off-limits” rule through out the election?

Posted by: Dawn | September 1, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm

“What makes you think it would be a punishment.”
‘Cause Obama already has stated as such? Was that a trick question?

Posted by: Carl | September 1, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm

What the heck? I didn’t realize how much of the daily language consists of names against women. Ladies WAKE UP!
Posted by: irma

Posted by: roxanne | September 1, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm

“Nice try but all we have to do is look at how crowded China is! Birth control is the way to go. ”
Doesn’t China restrict the amount of children their citizens can have?

Posted by: Mack | September 1, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm

Kate,
Thank you for being a voice of sanity in your post below:
save it for bible study.
What’s galling is this: When the subject is a pregnancy to an unwed, minority teenage mother growing up in some (presumably Democratic) urban area, that pregnancy becomes fodder for lectures from conservatives about bad parenting, the perils of welfare spending and so on. But when the subject is a pregnancy to an unwed, white teenager from some small town in a Republican state, that pregnancy is…a celebration of the wonders of God..

Posted by: juevosrancheros | September 1, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm

It isn’t about women’s rights. It is about a politian who has supported abstinence and teaching ONLY abstinence in all of her policies, whose daughter has now become pregnant- obviously not abstinent. This type of teaching does not work and for a women who is such a big proponent to make the case for all of us is just plan IRONIC.

Posted by: BK | September 1, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm

It isn’t about women’s rights. It is about a politian who has supported abstinence and teaching ONLY abstinence in all of her policies, whose daughter has now become pregnant- obviously not abstinent. This type of teaching does not work and for a women who is such a big proponent to make the case for all of us is just plan IRONIC.

Posted by: BK | September 1, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm

Very wise of Obama to not raise family into the frey.
He might have to answer more about where he got his middle name.
Obama cannot attack a woman, now that he and his party refused to allow the better resume elevate because Hillary, after all, is a woman.
Decisions like the Dems made glare of Edwards support of his wife and hidden secrets.
Anyone else remember the truth about the value of life Kennedy placed on another woman unable to break the glass out in time for her own survival?
The Party has to grow up and today is the beginning of it for the boys club.
Congratulations are in order for the Palin family. Babies are pretty special.
Especially that first grandchild.

Posted by: woman citizen | September 1, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm

ABSTINENCE ONLY =GOP SEX ED POLICY. Does anyone else see the hypocrisy here?

Posted by: victor harris | September 1, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm

Obama can only speak for himself and his campaign. This stuff is coming from folks in Alaska. Some of those blog dates are in March. No way is the media and National Enquirer backing off (Edwards anyone?)
The people in AK were surprised she was chosen as no one had questioned them.
Despite what he says, McCain did NOT vet her. He can try to shift the blame only so long.
He is now dealing with stuff bubbling up, and he better hope this is all there is.
But I suspect this soap opera has a few more episodes….

Posted by: Emily | September 1, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm

Well, good for you Roxanne. Happy to hear that. Really, I am. It’s a mistake I hope I never have to deal with in regards to my daughter. However, I do believe in birth control. If it were to happen, the decision (after I convince her how her life would change) would be up to her and I would go all Mama Bear on anyone that said a thing against her.

Posted by: irma | September 1, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm

I agree political families should be off limits. I wouldn’t want my boss or co-workers meddling in my personal business, either.
However, I wouldn’t lie to MY boss (boss = voters in this case) by telling him I’m pregnant – to cover up for my own daughter’s pregnancy – then lie about it – even if there’s photographic proof that you weren’t the mother.
Again…it’s no one’s business but her family’s. I’m sure she’s MOSTLY an honest person.

Posted by: Ginger | September 1, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm

“ABSTINENCE ONLY =GOP SEX ED POLICY. Does anyone else see the hypocrisy here?”
It’s a policy, no one has been arrested for having sex?

Posted by: Mack | September 1, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm

“However, I wouldn’t lie to MY boss (boss = voters in this case) by telling him I’m pregnant – to cover up for my own daughter’s pregnancy – then lie about it – even if there’s photographic proof that you weren’t the mother.”
What are you people smoking? Do you believe that Bush orchestrated 9/11 too?

Posted by: Mack | September 1, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm

Obama is taking the high road on this but the media needs to ask serious questions. Those questions need to be about Palin only in favor of abstinence being taught as sex education. She also wants creationism taught in public schools. Unless you want a nation of pregnant teens who think the world was created in 7 days these issues need to be brought to the forefront. This is not the way to improve our schools.

Posted by: wlw100 | September 1, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm

for all of us is just ironic.
BK, there is nothing ironic about any of this, these kids did what many of us have done and messed up, I am quite sure that any 17 year old knows the consequence of certain activities. Look at all the wonderful programs we have that hand out advice, protection etc and still 12 and 13 year old girls end up in the same shape.

Posted by: daid | September 1, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm

“How stupid can McCain had been? Boy what a huge mistake. If you all don’t think Sarah’s personal life is not going to be an issue, then you are totally wrong.”
So if he made a huge mistake then Barry/Biden will have a cakewalk to the Presidency. You should feel confidence not fear.

Posted by: Mack | September 1, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm

In the case of Bristol Palin’s pregnancy it should be exatctly the type of story the media should be carrying. Sara Palin believes in abstinence. she is on record as not wanting any of “…that explicit sex-ed struff” taught in public schools. Bristol obviously didn’t bother to follow mom’s abstinence only program. The fact that Bristol didn’t have access to condoms, birth control pill, gel, diaphram, etc. is certainly a factor in her getting pregnant as well. Palin is also adamently against same-ex marriage. Since Palin demands that the rest of America goose-step to her tune regarding sex. The fact that Palin’s daughter is unmarried and pregnant is very relevent to the Presidential campaign. By the way if the father of Bristol’s unborn is 18 or older he is guilty of statutory rape and should be tried. If he is under 18 and the Palins are crowing about their daughter getting married now that she is pregnant.

Posted by: Johnz52 | September 1, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm

My congratulations to the girl. Even though it is a tough time for her, after all she is bringing a new life into the world. I hope she has a healthy baby. Hopefully, Senator Obama will be President by then and life will be good for the new citizen. Plenty of young people get pregnant, so this story might resonate with those people and the parents of those daughters and sons who are young fathers. I hate for it to happen so young, because when you are young and have a child it kind of stunts your life for awhile. I don’t believe in abortion, but I believe in Senator Obama, and I always hope women will think of the child first if they are contemplating abortion. I agree that Rush would have a field day with this as well as the other conservative commentators if it were the other way around. Did someone actually comment negatively on Obama’s daughter’s dress? How cruel is that? I thought she looked so cute, as did the entire family look so like the Presidential family. I can’t wait for them to represent the U.S.
I’m not so sure Senator McCain new about the pregnancy. Of course he will say he did, he would look kind of dumb if he didn’t, but I really think this was a surprise. Maybe even the mom was surprised. It is too bad it all has to play out on the world stage, but when you look at Hollywood these days, everyone there has children out of wedlock. I think people anymore don’t think it is such a big deal, unlike Dobson’s holier than thou attitude. After all we are human, plus the tv inundates young people with stuff that was only spoken of in dark corners not that long ago. How can we expect our young people to behave when we watch mis-behavior every night on tv? We are a product of our environment.

Posted by: goldiekins | September 1, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm

For the people who claim that Sen. Obama will use his surrogates to post about this girl’s pregnancy, I ask, “Why would he remind everyone that he is the son of a teenage mother?”
Your posts are just mean spirited.
Sen. Obama can truly empathize with this girl’s situation, he’s been there.

Posted by: Bill C. | September 1, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm

Palin seems irresponsible. I could not run for office when I have a down syndrome child and a pregnant teen. Let’s face it, chances are that if your teen gets preganant, there is a problem in the family. Usually, lack of attention.

Posted by: Julie | September 1, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm

For someone who boasts the importance of ‘decision making’ and that America needs to focus more on parenting, Obama’s got a lot of nerve telling the press what they can and can’t report..it just adds to his ‘elitist’ reputation. America knows so little about McCain’s VP pick, they need to know all they can to size her up, good or bad.

Posted by: Neal | September 1, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm

RUSIAN AND THE WEST RELATION AT A CROSS ROAD, AS I WRITE, AND YET ALL WE ARE DISCUSSING IS TEENAGE PREGNANCY. WHAT HAVE WE BECOME AS A NATION? MR MAVERICK, SHOULD JUST HAVE A GOOD LOOK AT HIMSELF.

Posted by: Benbuti | September 1, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm

This young girl is a victim of innocence being forced to a degree that a girl in love could not possibly live up to. On one hand, she is not allowed birth control. On the other hand she is expected to show self control that grown ups often times cannot maintain. Now she has become a victim of her circumstance, imagine how horrendous it is for this young girl to know that her “failure” to be a perfect angel, is the topic of ridicule to the world. I am horrified for her. I feel sorry for her and all girls in her situation. Those who call her and her mother names that are offensive to ALL women are just plain EVIL.

Posted by: irma | September 1, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm

While I agree with Obama I must admit that I am curious about something? Why did Palin pull Bristol out of school last year for 5 months? If she’s 5 months pregnant now, why was she pulled then? This is why people are still unconvinced that Palin’s baby is hers and likely why the media won’t let this go. Sadly even if they do, you can bet that the National Enquirer will continue to dig. This is right up their alley!

Posted by: roxanne | September 1, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm

They didn’t leave John Edwards alone and he was not in the race, they didn’t leave Rev. Wright alone, they did not leave the people in the church while in their place of worship alone, they did not leave Michelle alone now you are supposed to be better? Why? I stand to it if the shoe were on the other foot Hanniey, O’Reily Rush none of them would be above this they would b all over it because it would “affect us as Americans” how our our leader would blah blah. Fight fire with fire. show the hypocrisy. Notice how the story is buried by the storm in New Orleans. I am a republican and a lawyer I understand dirty tricks its my job machiavelli Sun Tze through out history you do what you must to win noone remember the honorable loser.

Posted by: Real republican | September 1, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm

“Yes, but this policy has kept many kids ignorant, resulting in unwanted pregnancies,and the Gov’s daughter may be one of those kids.”
You can guide your children and give them the tools to help them make the right decisions, although since we are all human, we will make mistakes. If they are willing to accept the consequences of their actions and raise the baby then more power to them.

Posted by: Mack | September 1, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm

Wow! I can’t believe people posting about someone’s decision to have a child while she was governor of a state. Now, if it was a man, it would be ok to continue to have children up until he was 40 or even 50. Because she is a woman in an important position, then she needs to make decisions based on political and not personal feelings. Wow, I don’t think women are ready to have the glass ceiling shattered. It seems like so many of us really just want to stay where we are and not let others achieve and do something bigger or grander. BTW, I was a stay at home mom for 10 year, my decision. So I am not as career oriented as some women are, but I do not begrudge other women’s choices and I find Sarah Palin’s candidacy to be quite exciting!

Posted by: mccollegemom | September 1, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm

hypocrisy shows its ugly head. I knew all we had to do is wait..

Posted by: Angry | September 1, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm

“Palin seems irresponsible. I could not run for office when I have a down syndrome child and a pregnant teen.”
So don’t run for office then. Obviously, she is an exceptional person or she wouldn’t be the Governor of Alaska.

Posted by: Mack | September 1, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm

I noticed that the leftists are using this to disqualify Palin since they have absolutely nothing else. They surely can’t compete with Obama’s lack of experience to Palin’s executive experience. I don’t remember these same people having a cow when it came to Bill Clinton. Sounds pretty desperate. This is the same woman’s rights crowd who cry “woman’s rights!” are leaving Sarah Palin in droves.

Posted by: justrighttoo | September 1, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm

Senator Obama shows ethics here. This is another reason he gets my vote. The real FOCUS needs to be on McSame and his now even more questionable judgement and his same as Bush policies which will give us 4 more years of the same. Horrible, life costing, policies destined to bring this country to ruin.

Posted by: Newsrook | September 1, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm

HYPOCRITES!!!!

Posted by: Maria | September 1, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm

Real Republican?
John Edwards was a presidential candidate that came out strongly against Clinton’s indiscretions in the WH. Jeremiah Wright was Obama’s mentor based on the words in Obama’s book. Mrs. Obama has also taken to the campaign trail which also leads to some criticism of her comments. Bristol is a minor and not someone in politics. She should be left alone, just like Obama’s girls. Even Obama himself said he was a child of a teenage mother.

Posted by: mccollegemom | September 1, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm

I find it hard to believe that McCain was aware of this. If he was trying to appeal to the Christian Conservatives, I’d say he missed his mark. While they and many on this blog will try to put their spin on this it’s pretty embarrassing for the party that preaches Christian morals and values. This is why they’re are being ridiculed by many of us. Not the daughter but her mother’s phony ass unrealalistic stance on birth control. Without it, this is what you’re faced with.

Posted by: roxanne | September 1, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm

….I only wish he had said the same thing when Hillary and Pres. Clinton were accused of “pimping out Chelsea” during the primary.
Yes, there’s nothing like hypocrisy.
Yavo Lem | Sep 1, 2008 4:13:25 PM
Chelsea was a grown woman of 28 who was active in her mother’s political campaign. And not an innocent 17 year old who had nothing to do with her mother’s appointment. Also, it not his daughter, so what hyprocrisy are you talking about?
Obama himself never said anything about Chelsea other than she is intelligent and was raised well by her parents.

Posted by: naiima29 | September 1, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm

Nathan, You are talking about Obama and not Bristol.
Governor Palin is an unfit mother, if she can’t run her house how can she run the country. Bristol has two children, not one! That’s the Republican way, cover up the scandal to appear better than everyone else!! The whole thing is about to explode for the whole world to see. MCCain couldn’t even make a decent VP pick, just assuming that Hillary voters would be swooned by this woman! This is very embarrassing to you Conservatives. He could have chosen the senator or and former senators from Texas, NJ, and Washington State.

Posted by: Unfit to serve | September 1, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm

Sarah Palin has just hired a lawyer with regards to this trooper gate story. I really think she should step down!

Posted by: roxanne | September 1, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm

What woman who is not on an ego trip would subject her daughter to this? It would have been bad enough just in Alaska, but on the national stage! She has a “special needs” child and a teenage daugher five months pregnant about to have a shotgun wedding. She needs to stepdown and look after her family.

Posted by: Edna Walker | September 1, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm

Running for vice president is very intense and stressful add to that a special needs child and a pregnant teenager and then throw in an old man for a running mate that spells trouble.
GO OBAMA!!!

Posted by: T Daniels | September 1, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm

For the Hilary supporter who claims he said nothing when Chelsea was under attack Obama has always said that families are off limit.
I was a Hilary supporter and I remember him constantly saying he didn’t like when wives of candidates and their children are attacked.
We should respect his wishes.

Posted by: grata2ude | September 1, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm

Obama is corrent not to involve the candidtate’s families but one has to wonder about McCain’s vetting process -
that should be addressed and should be fair game…Judgement will be the key factor of the election.

Posted by: Larry S | September 1, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm

So, let me get this straight. I see the DemWits attacking and blaming Sarah Palin for Bristol’s mistake…however, its ok for you to support Obama, who himself, was conceived out of wedlock? Be For Real…you people are hyprocrits!
McCain/Palin 08!
Palin’s daughter should not be an issue in this process, I agree. But, please stop with the out of wedlock mess. What did Obama have to do with the circumsantances of his birth?
If you wanted to make a point, please use intelligent arguments. Mother of a teenage mom vs. a baby….apples and oranges.

Posted by: naiima25 | September 1, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm

By golly, the feller is right this time.

Posted by: BikernAz | September 1, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm

I think it’s pretty easy to distinguish the difference between a candidate and their family. The biggest difference being only one of them is actually running for office. When you go into a job interview, where else but in politics is it okay to ask about personal matters? That said, the biggest thing that disturbs me about Palin is the incredible amount I DON’T know about her. On the surface, the mere fact that she is out of left field raises questions about McCain’s judgement. Unfortunately for him, that seems to be the only issue left in this campaign. You can try to muddy the waters with rhetoric and unsubstantiated or disproven rumors (like justrighttoo) but when judging the candidates on their merit and achievements, Obama is the clear winner. The fact that Obama could mobilize millions here and abroad while McCain can’t even get members of his own party to attend the GOP convention is the writing on the wall that no one can dispute.

Posted by: Kratos | September 1, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm

What kind of vetting did John MCCain do? It’s posted now that the husband has a DUI! You conservatives, you guys are the ones who like to pass judgement on everyone else. He sure didn’t make it easy for you guys!

Posted by: Vanessa in South Carolina | September 1, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm

So men – do I have this right?
It was okay for John Edwards to go on campaigning for the presidency, even though his wife was told her cancer had returned and was incurable.
But Sarah Palin should stay at home because she has a Down’s Syndrome baby and her teenage daugher (who is going to marry the baby’s father), is pregnant.
Do I have that right? It would be difficult to find a bigger group of mysogynists anywhere in the country.

Posted by: Peach | September 1, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm

the whole thing sickens me. i have supported mccain through all the highs and lows. the whole palin pregnancy thing is going to hurt him a bunch. it wont change my vote, but i think it was one dumb ass move on his part. i know he is a maverick,but come on johnny. and if she did keep it from him, that in my eyes people is as close to a lier as you are going to get. as for not being relivent, they preach thier christian beliefs in the speaches they give. like i said, it wont change my vote, or maybe it will, and that is something i would never had believed i’d actually say.

Posted by: joey spanoey | September 1, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm

mccollegemom: you are wrong Edwards was out of the campaign when that news broke and had been out for about 6 months. The woman who is was with was entitled to privacy as well. The people is Wrights church consist of minors who all have the right to worship in peace. Yet all of these people were attacked and their lives were people on display for the world. What makes this girl so off limits? . And she maybe a minor but she is not 10, 8, 12 she is 17. In one year she will be 18. Thats how republicans play so fair is fair.

Posted by: Real republican | September 1, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm

Ambition has blinded Sarah Palin and her husband Todd as well as John McCain. It is nothing short of shameful for them to drag a young girl like Bristol Palin (and even more unwillingly “Levi” the reported father of Bristol’s unborn baby) onto the front pages of the tabloids surely to replace Jamie Lynn Spears.
The Palins, both in their early 40s, could have deferred the national political spotlight for a later date when their roles as parents weren’t as important. AND McCain could have selected a running mate from among scores of others. Shame on the Palins and the McCains!
This certainly demonstrates the poor judgement and focus on self we might expect from a McCain-Palin White House.

Posted by: ModerateDad | September 1, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm

i will ‘BACK OFF” this issue when mccain/palin BACK OFF these issues:
1) my gay marriage after all it is between me and my partner.
2) a woman’s right to choose, after all it is between her and her partner.
when they BACK OFF these issues i will immediately BACK OFF mccain’s affair, and palin’s terry springer drama.

Posted by: johnosahon | September 1, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm

I had a 16 year old friend who was in a similar position – pregnant, and her mother suggested let’s just tell everyone it is my baby to avoid embarrassment for my career and before friends. The daughter however said mum “no”. I want my kid to know I am its mother. She never regretted it to this day and is proud of her kid. This is an old story that happens again and again with dominating mothers. It is up to Bristol to take a stand and let Trig know that she is his mum – but no I doubt it with such a controlling parent :The barracuda.

Posted by: Stephanie | September 1, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm

Apparently people are unable to read anything but this ABC blog about this matter. McCain has said he knew about this matter. There are other articles that say everyone in town knew. Now, maybe the FBI is even more inept than I thought it was and couldn’t figure out in their vetting process what the entire town already knew.

Posted by: Peach | September 1, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm

Yup mccollegemom, I questioned a female governor’s decision to become pregnant. I am a mother of two and believe women are as valuable as men, but I also know we are physiologically different. A pregnancy is a medical condition with risks. The risks increase with age, like it or not. At 44, she CHOSE to become pregnant with her fifth child – she didn’t claim it was an oops. Being governor of the State of Alaska, (or Vice President, for that matter) isn’t quite the same as having any other job.
As soon as men can experience and choose a risky medical condition, like a pregnancy, we will see how they behave. Until then, sorry but I think she, yes a woman, showed questionable, even poor, judgement.

Posted by: detepe | September 1, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm

This is pretty common, a “successful career woman” with a messed up family.
She jumped at the V.P chance so she can use it to her advantage later, write a book, run for senate, etc…
McCain uses her, she uses McCain, and in the process her family suffers.

Posted by: Palin sells out family | September 1, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm

As a fellow Democrat, I believe that the real issues should be discussed here. I agree with Obama, families should be left out of politics. I feel that Republicans are responsible for this leak just as those who attacked McCain for adopting a black child. But if you are going to emphasis family values and abstinence, you are setting yourself up. However, private matters should remain private.

Posted by: Cstaple421 | September 1, 2008, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm

Obama had no choice to back off, when he attacked palin for being a mayor right after her annoucement as VP—women of all colors went after him so obama tossed an aid under the bus for the comment. Attacking Palins daughter now, would be total political suicide incurring a huge female backlash. He had no choice, plus as he said his mother was an unwed teen and let us not forget that his base…are made up of alot of unwed mothers.

Posted by: chattyway | September 1, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm

Palin is scary to the Orc’s that follow Obama. She may have less federal government experience (Obama spent 143 days in the Senate before starting his campaign for President), but she does have as much state and local experience. She has experience in the private sector as well as the public sector, whereas Obama has always been on the government payroll. She has executive experience as well as legislative experience, and is the only person on either party’s ticket that has exercised a veto. Advantage: McCain/Palin by three lengths.
McCain is defining the mission of his campaign as reform, prosperity and peace. Palin’s track record in reform and energy independence equal or exceed McCain’s; Obama and Biden are still trying to find out what the clamor is all about. Palin’s international experience running the national guard in a state that borders Russia is not in the same league as McCain’s, but it is clearly superior to Obama’s experience representing his “hood”, the South Side of Chicago in the Illinois legislature. Advantage: McCain/Palin by default.
The Orc’s will be tempted to try to tear down Palin by trying to find mud to sling. That will only expose them for what they are: Orcs.
Obama’s best defense against Sarah Palin is to have an equally compelling female candidate for his VP. I’ll bet he wishes he’d picked Hillary now.
You’ve got to give Obama credit, he is consistent. Unfortunately, what he’s consistent about is seriously flawed judgment.

Posted by: ragnar30066 | September 1, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm

Please stop talking about this girl. She’s a normal American teenager. Governor Palin, on the other hand, has shown that her policy about abstinence-only before marriage has failed. Let’s see if she changes her position, or if she refuses to learn from this situation.

Posted by: cturple | September 1, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm

the GOP spit in their voters faces.the GOP knows that they can shove anything down the GOP faithful’s throat.GOers dont get it Hate is over in AMERICA.It will be great when America leads the world in peace.

Posted by: truthman01 | September 1, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm

Edna Walker- a strong woman is the kind of woman that would run under these circumstances, women do it every day, their lives are hectic and full of Drama, but yet they are CEO’s, Drs, Lawyers, etc. and they hold the lives of others in their hands as they deal with the issues at home and their professions, as a woman you should not have to ask this question, that in itself is questionable.

Posted by: Kim | September 1, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm

Gosh, apparently all those years that Hillary worked so hard for the American people and she let Chelsea suffer.
Those of you saying women can’t work and raise a family successfully — you can’t have it both ways. Condemn Hillary for doing what Sarah Palin is doing or be shown to be hypocrites.

Posted by: Peach | September 1, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm

Peach,
The biggest problem I have with this whole story is that Sarah Palin put her daughter center stage in the spotlight of a US Presidential campaign which she knows can be vicious and unforgiving and that there are those out there just waiting for something like this to happen.
And as far as the posts here, don’t mistake criticism for slander.
When a story like this breaks, people have the right to criticize.
The sole person responsible for this being where it is is Sarah Palin.
I’ll even temper that by saying that there is a longshot possibility that even she may not have known about the pregnancy, but I doubt that very much.

Posted by: Lou | September 1, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm

While I do think the whole pregnancy thing is a private family matter, it does raise serious questions about McCain’s JUDGEMENT in picking someone who obviously will have to exercise some serious time management. I just don’t see how she will be able to juggle her family issues and the campaign or the VP spot. One will suffer. It also makes me think, what right does she have to be a moral compass (through legistalation) for me and my family when her own house isn’t even in order.
Perhaps McCain with his penchant for bueaty queens and pretty women was thinking with the wrong head.

Posted by: Judgement??? | September 1, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm

If Obama is really so offended (sounds like that victimhood talk he so loves) about the smears on this 17-year old, maybe he should direct his web administrator to take off some of the offensive comments about this kid.

Posted by: Peach | September 1, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm

If it was Obama who thrust is children in the national spotlight, the repubs would be foaming at the mouth about how he thru his children under the bus. The double standard is disgusting

Posted by: Double Standard | September 1, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm

I’m watching CNN right now and they sent reports up to Alaska over the weekend to investigate some of the rumors. According to their Center for Reproductive Agency
Here’s what they’ve found so far. An attempt to implement more sex education despite Palin’s objections has been unsuccessful- as a result:
High number of teenage pregnancies, high number of std’s among teens.

Posted by: roxanne | September 1, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm

Democrats might want to be very careful going after Palin’s daughter.
One of Biden’s sons and Biden’s brother are accused of defrauding a former business partner and an investor of millions of dollars in a hedge fund deal that went sour. They are now being sued. I wonder how many widows and orphans will suffer because of their greed. See how we can all play that game?

Posted by: Peach | September 1, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm

Sorry, but supporters of abstinence only programs need to be reminded at how spectacularly such policies fail.

Posted by: ollie | September 1, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm

Peach
Stop trying to blame any of this on Obama. While he would hope that everyone would back off this story, we’re all aware that is this country we have something called freedom of speech. If you McCain/Palin supporters don’t like what you’re reading, you’re fee to go to the Christian Conservative websites where they’re trying to spin this while using this girl as the poster child for anti abortion. Just don’t expect the rest of us to forget that they also preach abstinence which clearly doesn’t work.

Posted by: tippy | September 1, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm

Chelsea was a grown woman of 28 who was active in her mother’s political campaign. And not an innocent 17 year old who had nothing to do with her mother’s appointment. Also, it not his daughter, so what hyprocrisy are you talking about?
Obama himself never said anything about Chelsea other than she is intelligent and was raised well by her parents.
Posted by: naiima29
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Chelsea, at 28, or Bristol at 17, in both cases are FAMILY AND CHILDREN.
When the “pimping out” remark was made, and “reported”, Obama said nothing. Now, however, that he is the appointed nominee, suddenly attacking family and children, especially children, becomes a BIG ISSUE. That is hypocrisy in my book.
(There, I took out the reference to ABC and its “Blog”, so now maybe they won’t delete this post so quickly).

Posted by: Yavo Lem | September 1, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm

Peach
Are there any offensive comments on Obama’s website? That seems unlikely.

Posted by: jock59801 | September 1, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm

I can’t believe McCain did not pick Carly Fiorina. She is cute and cuddly as Sarah Palin and Hillary, but with three times better executive management expereience at Hewlett-Packard (market value 115.7Bln)than just 18 month for Sarah Palin (Alaska GDP: $39 billion). What a chance McCain missed on picking Carly fiorina, the second most astute woman to Hillary Rodham Clinton.
This proves that McCain has no ability to make right judgment and that his criminal war bondage cannot suffice for his electability, IMO.

Posted by: Xuli Jiang | September 1, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm

Jick59801 -
Yes – there really are offensive statements on Obama’s web site.
The web site has an administrator but I don’t think they are full time. If they are, they should be fired.
The most offensive, sexist, anti-semitic statements have stood on that web page for days at a time and been the subject of media articles.

Posted by: Peach | September 1, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm

you with out sin cast the first stone!

Posted by: Daniel | September 1, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm

Palin’s daughter is pregnant. It’s not something made up. It does not require opinion. It’s simply news. I think that reporters should treat the issue with delicacy. But, when a candidate opposes a woman’s right to reproductive health care, opposes contraception, and opposes teaching sexual education in the schools then her views on this teenage pregnancy are newsworthy. We’ve heard a lot about McCain’s life, Obama’s life, Biden’s life, but we know nothing about Palin’s life. If she didn’t want to step under a microscope then she shouldn’t have joined the campaign.

Posted by: fletc3her | September 1, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm

This is a very big news, this pregnancy, now Palin should explain how this pregnancy happend.

Posted by: Tom | September 1, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm

Good on O’Bama! Both shrewd and classy move. He knows there’s no way anyone can get people to stop talking about this, and thus will reap all the benefits of the negativity against Palin anyway. Nevertheless, he emphatically keeps himself and his campaign from the muck, giving himself a boost in the process. Bonus points for being forceful and not passive-aggressive or equivocating in his classiness.
This thing is great for Obama not only because it damages Palin, but also because he gets a chance to proclaim at the top of his lungs that he’s not using it, while still benefiting. It even lets him remind people of his life story and difficult beginnings.
That said, I wish Bristol and her family well in what must be a difficult, hectic time, and that Bristol and the baby’s father give their child a good, happy upbringing. And I’m sure Obama wishes that, too. Not only was his mother close to Bristol’s age (though married) when she had him, he appears to be that rare breed of both calculating politician and decent man.

Posted by: JLee | September 1, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm

While I do think the whole pregnancy thing is a private family matter, it does raise serious questions about McCain’s JUDGEMENT in picking someone who obviously will have to exercise some serious time management. I just don’t see how she will be able to juggle her family issues and the campaign or the VP spot. One will suffer. It also makes me think, what right does she have to be a moral compass (through legistalation) for me and my family when her own house isn’t even in order.

Posted by: Charles | September 1, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm

I disagree about the Hillary comment. Hillary had one child. One child is different than having 5. We need to stop competing against Men. Being a woman is the most powerful and beautiful thing. WE are womb-man meaning that we are more than what a man is. We are whole. With that said. We (both men & women) cannot do it all and do it well. Something will be neglected. We were created to be focused. Having children takes a lot of responsibility. They are not meant to be accessories. I am a Dr. I work over 80 hrs a week and I am raising 4 children at the same time! Well there are 163 hrs in a week. Take away sleep who is raising our children? They do not ask to be born. We need to ask ourselves what is important to us. Is it
having a successful career as a professional? Or is it being a successful mother? They both take sacrifice and they should both be respected. We as women have come a long way and I thank all of my foresisters for paving the way for us. Because of you women have more choices to live the life they choose.

Posted by: K. Mcvey | September 1, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm

She should get the same respect that John Edwards got…The difference is that we didnt choose John Edwards as our nominee but McCain did choose Palin knowing all this nonsense…
Do They really think that we are so stupid that we want Peg and Al Bundy in the White house?

Posted by: beka | September 1, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm

McCain’s judgement is flawed. Wondering what spin the Christians and Conservatives will put on this latest Palin drama? Palin should do the right thing for the ticket and drop out immediately. As it is, Obama/Biden are going to win but with Palin on the ticket, Obama will win by a landslide.

Posted by: Lawrence | September 1, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm

knowledge of the issue can be found in two articles still on anchorage daily news. this is where i saw the pictures of bristol and sarah that raised eyebrows. it’s how most of the web first started to question sarah’s entire story, which sounds like a lie. we don’t have issues with bristol being a mother of trig. we have issues with sarah using trig for votes and sympathy.
here are two anchorage articles where you can clearly see…march 2008 bristol is pregnant while sarah is not. and last weekend. neither mother nor daughter are pregnant – bristol is not the size of the earlier shot, just before trig’s birthdate in april.
august 2008 family shot with bristol holding the baby taken after the announcement, and looking too slender to be pregnant. while sarah looks the same. trig palin became an issue because sarah palin evidently used him as an issue. the first time we, as a country, ever met her.
when britney’s sister got pregnant, she didn’t use the kid for sympathy. she also came out with the truth early and shut everyone up. she went from ‘social tragedy’ to ‘who?’ in days. the palins can stop all this by being simple and honest about it. and so far, the evidence suggests the truth has not been set free.

Posted by: kravitz | September 1, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm

Oh, really? An unwed, underage, pregnant, teen? What has this to say about her family’s moral standards? Standards are derived from the parents. No control over her own children? Humm>…. Bad.

Posted by: Chucky | September 1, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm

What does any of this have to do with what is good for this country as far as the economy, the war, jobs or anything?
Why is the press and the people more interested in this soap box mentality??
The family of candidates and their children in the days when America had decency were off limits. God I miss those day.

Posted by: grata2ude | September 1, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm

The subject Palin’s pregnant teenage daughter is being vastly dismissed as a private family issue. However this became a public issue when McCain nominated Palin as VP. What does this say about parental responsibility?? What does this say for proper work/life balance?? AND what does this say about the effectiveness of Palin’s own “abstinence only” polcy?? These are issues that McCain picked Palin for in the first place. The fact that her 17 year old daughter is pregnant clearly demonstrates that Palin has not taken an active enough role in supervising her daughter and that she has devoting too much of her time to her work and not enough to her family and daughter. Further, this undermines Palin’s own “abstinence only” position. No one is necessary judging the daughter here. They are judging the VP candidate, her hypocrisy, and McCain’s judgment in choosing her.

Posted by: Chris Pearcy | September 1, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm

This is exactly why I’m voting for Obama. He’s decent. I want a decent person in our White House.
I sincerely feel for Bristol. Palin knew that news of the out-of-wedlock pregnancy would be exposed and that her daughter would become vulnerable to the harsh criticism of the public. She’s not an idiot; she knows how this game is played, and she knew that this would come out. This was an incredibly selfish move on her part.
Despite my admiration for Obama’s call to “back off,” and despite my own pity for the girl, this information does bring up two solid points:
1. Palin’s abstinence-only education DOES NOT WORK.
2. Palin is more concerned with her own success in politics than she is with her children.
On the topic of sexual education, I agree that abstinence should be the FIRST form of birth control suggested to children. But young men and women are going to have sex as soon as they’re ready to, and those kids NEED to be encouraged to use proper birth control. I was taught what sex was by my high school boyfriend. NO YOUNG WOMAN should receive their sexual education from their high school boyfriend.
Initially I felt that Palin was a decent person – not someone I would vote for based on her stance on several issues that are important to me, but a decent person nonetheless. For her to put herself before her daughter greatly changes my opinion of her. We can be such selfish, selfish people.

Posted by: Danielle | September 1, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm

Dysfunction and disinformation are alive and well. What a way to “elect” people to the two highest offices in this country. Whatever happened to common decency??? Is it extinct???

Posted by: Yavo Lem | September 1, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm

As a mother of four, I wish Palin’s daughter the very best. And I look forward to hearing more from Palin during the next two months. I don’t know much about Palin, but I am impressed with what I have heard and read. It has been so long since this country has had a true outsider in Washington. A frontier governor is a refreshing addition to the three Washington Senators representing both tickets. This is an exciting time.

Posted by: CarolC | September 1, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm

Not only would O’Reilley be all over a story like this if it were coming from the Obama Camp, he’d be intimating that John Edwards was the father. Does that make it right? Nah… Does it further hammer home the point that a two party system in this country–both flawed in their own rights–doesn’t work? Yep. Why? Because the devil is in the details, and neither party can deal with the real issues facing America today–they simply hope that we as Americans are going to on whether to vote for a woman who’s 17 year old daughter is on the verge of a shotgun wedding, or a man who’s not only the first minority every to get this far, but, also, if we believe what we’ve been told, TOTALLY inexperienced and not ready for the job of Commander and Chief. It’s going to boil down to what it always does–who are we LEAST afraid of? But when we get down to people defending this kid because she grew up in Alaska and there’s nothing else for teenagers to do there but have sex when they’re bored, why isn’t the Alaskan population booming? If we’re to believe Obama’s years in DC make him green because he hasn’t been there long enough, then, why is JFK one of the most beloved presidents of all time? Get past the smoke and mirrors and focus on the real issues…like why I’m struggling to pay my mortgage because it costs me a small fortune to drive to the bank.

Posted by: MarkKW | September 1, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm

Imagine for a moment if the same situation (pregnancy of the candidate’s teenage daughter) had occurred on the Democratic side. What righteous nonsense we would have been subjected to by the GOP. Maybe we need to re-run the celebrity ad, this time featuring Paris Hilton and Palin’s daughter, because the two of them have a lot in common.

Posted by: ChandraSF | September 1, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm

I’m actually much more curious about what it implies that Sarah Palin herself is having an unplanned baby at her age. I respect her decision not to have an abortion. But what are her views on artificial contraception? Was she not using any, and if not, was it a matter of being anti-contraception on principle? Some pro-lifers favor the rollback not just of Roe but also of Griswold, which laid down the privacy principle that is the foundation for Roe, and which was concerned with access to contraceptives not abortions. I think that’s a fair question to ask. If she’s anti-contraception as well as anti-abortion, that places her very far outside the mainstream. As someone who may end up with the power to appoint Supreme Court justices, I think that’s a question she should have to answer.

Posted by: DrBB | September 1, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm

Did any of you hear or understand this message. Discussion ended! No more posting about this issue. Enough said!
From Barack Obama: “Let me be a clear as possible: I have said before and I will repeat again, I think people’s families are off limits,” Obama said, “and people’s children are especially off limits.
“This shouldn’t be part of our politics,” he continued, “It has no relevance to Gov. Palin’s performance as governor, or her potential performance as a vice president.
“And so I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories,” he said. “You know my mother had me when she was 18, and how a family deals with issues and, you know, teenage children, that shouldn’t be the topic of our politics and I hope that anybody who is supporting me understands that’s off limits.”
Again ENOUGH SAID … No MORE POSTS on this issue.

Posted by: dlboggan | September 1, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm

The rumors of Palin faking the pregnancy still persist and could be put to rest with the release of a hospital record and a couple of eye witness accounts of Trig’s birth. McCain allowed journalists to view parts of his medical records, so Palin could allow for the same to put an end to the recurring rumors for both her own political sake that of her daughter’s.

Posted by: kat | September 1, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm

“The NYT referenced that maybe Sarah’s baby wasn’t her own. They wouldn’t do that if just some Daily Kook web sites were saying it. ”
NYT? They have no credibility anymore, especially after their phony McCain affair story.

Posted by: Mack | September 1, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm

Folks, in case you haven’t figured it out yet, Palin is not going to be the real Republican VP nominee. Word has it that Republican strategists chose her in order to buy McCain more time and to dominate the spin cycle right up through the election. We have yet to meet the real Republican VP nominee, but we will. And we’ll meet him/her at a critical juncture in the campaign. And, what’s more, our vapid, incompetent, unimaginative newsl media will fall for it, lock, stock and barrel. Sad.

Posted by: nina | September 1, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm

kat – You can’t be serious that you’re still thinking Trig isn’t Sarah Palin’s daughter. That puts you right in Obama’s, oops, I mean Daily Kos territory.
Trig is 4 months old. The daughter is 5 months pregnant. You do realize that it would be impossible for the daughter to now be pregnant if Trig was her, right?

Posted by: Peach | September 1, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm

“Word has it that Republican strategists chose her in order to buy McCain more time and to dominate the spin cycle right up through the election.”
Don’t tell me, the word came from the dailykrud?

Posted by: Mack | September 1, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm

I agree with Obama but I also believe that family values, which the Republicans value so highly, includes taking care of your family. I question how a mother with a new baby with Down’s Syndrom and a pregnant teenager has the time and energy necessary to be vice-president let alone president. I’m old fashion to believe that family should come before politics or ambition. She needs to be home with her kids.

Posted by: olivia | September 1, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm

WOW! I cannot believe what I am reading. Everyone is so self righteous. I never heard of Sara Palin before McCain’s announcement. So far everything I have read about her is that she is pro-life, pro-family, pro-ethics, pro-right to bear arms, PRO AMERICA PEOPLE! AND.. she is a mom. Never have I read so much crap. She doesn’t care about her children, she is a mother who should focus on her children and worry more about them than politics? No where have I ever read anything how the men who have run for this office should be ashamed of themselves because they are fathers and should focus on their children. People, think about what you are saying. America is about equal opportunity. It’s not about the best man for the job anymore. In this case, the best person for the job is Sara Palin. She will bring a fresh perspective to Washington, something they desperately need. So instead of bashing Sara Palin, look at yourselves and honestly ask yourself about your own values and if you would have the courage to accept that invitation knowing that your life and the lives of your children would be under a microscope. Most of us would not. Seeing her family stand together, knowing this would happen, agreeing to be united a team, a family, is commendable and speaks volumes about who she is and can be for our country. I want someone who stands united with us in the face of adversity. Her ability to speak from her experience, her heart and as a mother is just what this country needs. You all should get over yourselves. Use common sense people.

Posted by: AMB | September 1, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm

I don’t believe for a minute that McCain knew about the Bristol pregnancy at the time he chose Sarah Palin to be VP. To save face, he’s merely claiming that he knew. Good lord, how can a mother of 5 be a full time business person on top of caring for five children, including a special needs child! Obviously, Sarah Palin is NOT capable of both mothering and taking care of business. It’s too much to ask of any peron – it’s time for Palin to throw in the towel on the VP thing and start taking care of her brood. If you’re going to make that many babies, you need to tend to them after you produce them.

Posted by: biggunns | September 1, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm

If the story is true what kind of judgement does Palin have to put everyone on the commercial Alaskan Air flight in danger by getting on a 8-13 hour flight while she was in labor? It shows she does not care about anyone else. Is that who you want 1 heartbeat away from being President of the United States. If she is willing to put them at risk on the flight and her unborn child at risk waiting 22 hours until her business was done to allegedly have the child what will she do for America. No judgement at all.

Posted by: Real republican | September 1, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm

She cant even manage or control her own household, if elected how will she manage our government.

Posted by: Stud | September 1, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm

Peaches – I said the rumors are still going strong and it would behoove both Palin and her daughter to put an end them once and for all. An immediate threat from the McCain campaign of a serious backfire for the Democrats followed the campaign stating that Palin’s daughter was pregnant. I don’t think threats and accusations against Democrats will dispel rumors, only proof will.

Posted by: kat | September 1, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm

Look at the way they treated Hillary. Supposedly one of their own.

Posted by: Mack | September 1, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm

Palin’s 17 year-old daughter has been dating the 26 year-old father of her baby for three years. Thus when the relationship began, she was 14 and he 23. Age of consent in Alaska is 16. How old was she when she got pregnant?

Posted by: Curious | September 1, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm

Governor Palin has had, at most, 100,000 votes cast for her when she was elected Governor. In contrast Obama garnered 18 million votes in the Democratic primary – that is roughly 100,000 each and every day for 180 days in a row. If you think getting votes in the primary is a cakewalk, talk to Romney or Guiliani. Palin has flip-flopped on a couple of big troublesome issues – the bridge to nowhere, and a Dairy plant that went bankrupt because of her involvement in it. Then of course there is the case of her going after her brother-in-law, to get him fired as a state trooper, simply because she had the power to do so. That might well endear her to the GOP who love such vindictive bullies – after McCain has a history of such vendettas. There has been a rush to heap praise on her judgment, it’s going to unravel soon.

Posted by: ColinSF | September 1, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm

Real, she wasn’t in labor hun….she had experience some pre-labor contractions and she was leaking—she contacted her doctor and stayed in contact thru-out the entire flight which was about 8 hours including stop overs. Her labor in fact had to be induced later. I really don’t know why obamabots open their mouths about what they know nothing about.

Posted by: chattyway | September 1, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm

Listen up everybody, esp. Peach-
Regarding the Trig is Bristol’s child rumor: It’s been flying around Alaska since the Spring. Obama and his folks didn’t dream it up over the weekend. Any bloggers making hay with it found it on the net, probably while Google-vetting the largely unknown Sarah Palin.

Posted by: detepe | September 1, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm

um.. and just how many of you actually listened to your parents when you were teenagers? and what does that have to do with anything anyway? hypocrites!

Posted by: AMB | September 1, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm

The tone of the debate on this board and other Dem-dominated boards is very Un-Obama-like. If we win an election by playing dirty, using a pregnant teenage girl as a target, using sexist and mysoginistic language to refer to a female candidate, and perjorative terms to refer to a Down’s syndrome child, what in the world will we have won? The right to say “we did what was necessary to win?” The right to say we beat the smear machine at their own game? There’s nothing wrong with a rational debate over whether the pregnancy is even a legitimate issue, but for God’s sake, it should be a civil discussion.
I believe that while it has news value, it should not be an issue that reflects on Governor Sarah Palin’s candidacy becuase it would not be an issue that would reflect on Governor Steve Palin’s candidacy. Of course there will be a difference in the way a female candidate is treated in the media and public debate (see Hillary Clinton) but are we not analytical and fair-minded enough to see when a woman is being criticized for a decision that would barely raise an eyebrow if she were a man?
As an independent very strongly supporting Obama, this VP pick by McCain was the only one I feared, and I had hoped the Trooper-Gate scandal would have taken her out of the game.
I agree with those who regard this as a departure from McCain’s “Country First” mantra because this was quite obviously a tactical move designed to win the election, not to govern the nation. But as tactical moves go, this one was brilliant. Dems dismiss the viability of this “Mrs. Smith” ticket at their peril. And the kinds of attacks that are being launched on these boards will make her more sympathetic and appealing to those whose votes have not yet found a place to land.

Posted by: RobH | September 1, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm

Nina writes,”Folks, in case you haven’t figured it out yet, Palin is not going to be the real Republican VP nominee. Word has it that Republican strategists chose her in order to buy McCain more time and to dominate the spin cycle right up through the election. We have yet to meet the real Republican VP nominee, but we will. And we’ll meet him/her at a critical juncture in the campaign.”
We’ll they have to give out that name by Thursday, because that’s when the comvention ends and by then the ticket will be offically nominated.
It wouldbe strange politics to say on thing and then do another.
Oh, wait that would be right in line with John McCains 2008 campaign.

Posted by: Burke | September 1, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm

Now it’s time for all the pundits to start speculating as to who McCain’s first choice really was. Mrs. Palin will withdraw soon and the GOP can blame Obama.

Posted by: msg48 | September 1, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm

There’s a credibility problem nationwide with the McCain campaign and Palin. Claiming the daughter is five months pregnant when pictures taken over the weekend don’t back it up isn’t flying.

Posted by: kat | September 1, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm

Mack: “There in lies the problem because Barry’s supporters hate America. Didn’t his mentor of 20 years Dam America?”
Um….no.

Posted by: jock59801 | September 1, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm

Kat -
You aren’t a woman, are you? Do you know how many women are 5 mos. pregnant and are barely showing? Seriously, you need to get a grip.

Posted by: Peach | September 1, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm

Jock 59801: You seem unaware that Obama called Rev. Wright his spiritual advisor AND mentor. So that poster was correct.

Posted by: Peach | September 1, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm

Anyone who condemns a candidate or an entire Party based on what a few angry jerks say on the internet is not thinking logically.

Posted by: jock59801 | September 1, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm

I heard the teenage mom story is a lie made up to deflect the pregnancy cover up rumor. In fact if they are pushed to prove it, they will simply say that Bristol lost the baby, garnering vast empathy votes right before election.
The Republican would stoop so low.

Posted by: Jones | September 1, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm

chattyway: How ever you want to define pregnancy its irrelevant. Most airlines don’t allow women in the 3rd trimester to travel without a doctor note. He her water had broke several hours before the baby could have come at any time. To my understanding when a woman’s water break you go to the hospital ASAP or you risk injury to the baby, you dont wait give a speech then get on a commercial flight full of other people with places to go and lives of their own to take a 8-13 hour flight across 2 countries to land then pass 2 hospitals quality hospitals to do to a town’s medical center. How ever you want to spin it she put the people on the plane in danger and the baby in danger and i wouldn’t want her to be equally reckless with America and our lives as VP.

Posted by: Real republican | September 1, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm

If reading DailyKos is a sign of bad judgment,then what the heck is appearing on the overtly racist O’Reilly and Hannity shows? McCain’s done it dozens of times. Gross stupdity, it seems to me.

Posted by: ChandraSF | September 1, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm

I can’t believe you people.
First of all, knock it off with all of the religious crap. Don’t you realize that most of you holyier then thou, fundamenalists are most of the problem in this country? Stop looking at everyone elses issues, and start looking within yourselves.
This woman stands for a lot of great things. Especially the RIGHT thing. Whether YOU believe in the right to choose or not is NOT what it is about here. SHE believes that you get pregnant, you take responsibility and she not only shows that in her OWN choices, but she has apparently instilled it in her child. This girl is getting married to her boyfriend.
Have none of you ever made a mistake? Are you all so perfect? I can bet you, you have. Stop judging. Start admiring. These are people that deserve our admiration for choosing to serve our country, choosing to allow their private lives to become pubilc, choosing to take on the challenge of public life knowing there are people like YOU out there, and choosing to not let you get to them. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

Posted by: Luv2Laff | September 1, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm

teenagers need to use better judgement and stop getting pregnant before marriage.

Posted by: kevin | September 1, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm

Help me understand people… why would any of you want a President for this country who admired and sought counsel from a man who preaches hate and fear about our country for 20 years! And only after pressure from his political party, denounce him and leave his church? What kind of support does that show you? Is that the kind of leader you want?

Posted by: AMB | September 1, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm

Hannity and O’Reilly are racist?
Sure, and Olberman is an oasis of sanity.
Did you know that CNN holds KKK meetings at midnight? And ABC is sexist.
See how easy that is to say without any proof whatsoever? Some posters just don’t mind sounding foolish.

Posted by: Peach | September 1, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm

Peaches – I’m saying that the proof hasn’t been established beyond assertions made from Palin and McCain. What’s wrong with Palin showing proof and putting an end once and for all to continued rumors? Then she can campaign freely without any lingering doubts.

Posted by: kat | September 1, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm

nodevilsplease – you are obviously not a Christian so please stop quoting the bible. It’s just plain sad and embarrassing. Oh, btw.. you forgot to mention that when McCain was a prisoner of way and they found out about his father.. they were going to let him go early, but he CHOSE to stay and asked that they let others go who had been there before him…. AND, when was the past time you were in a prison camp?? just wondering.. you seem to know so much about how people should behave after being tortured for five years… IMHO

Posted by: AMB | September 1, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm

Curious: right on Title 11. Chapter 41. Section 440. and 438 define sexual misconduct. If he was 23 and she was was 14 thats a crime. It would still be a crime if he is 26 and she is 17. I hope palin is following up with the prosecution since she believes in the laws being followed and obeyed. Forget that section 436 first degree Sexual Abuse of a Minor can be charged he was over 18 and she was under 16. Maybe the laws don’t apply to her family

Posted by: Real republican | September 1, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm

HOW THE HECK TO YOU KNOW WHY MCCAIN DIVORCED HIS FIRST WIFE? Were you there? Do you KNOW them? Are they a part of your family?
Good grief people! GET YOUR OWN LIVES!

Posted by: Luv2Laff | September 1, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm

Real republican – seriously?? is that what is right for that unborn child? How can you sit in judgement of a family like that? You have no idea of their history. If she is keeping the baby and marrying the father.. the best thing for the new family is support. Your hidden agenda is sickening. Using a painful moment in Sara Palin’s family for your own political soapbox rhertoric. WOW… some people never cease to amaze me… I’m glad you aren’t my parent…

Posted by: AMB | September 1, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm

AMB -No where have I ever read anything how the men who have run for this office should be ashamed of themselves because they are fathers and should focus on their children.” That’s too bad, but some Dad’s certainly do – Joe Biden put his kids first after their mother died. No one had to remind him that it was important – he just did it because it was right. It speaks a lot to me about his “family values” and ethics and I respect him for that. Oh, and by the way, I don’t equate a “pro-gun” stand as Pro-American. I count myself as pro-life becaue I support life all the way. That includes common sense gun control, opposing the death penalty and supporting things that make life better for people. Things like health care, taking care of the environment, education opportunity for all, and programs to help those who need it. I feel that is more “pro-life” stand than the things you mention. And, I still believe that being a mother means taking care of your kids first even if it means putting your own ambitions on hold for a while. That may not be popular but it is sure ethical.

Posted by: Olivia | September 1, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm

So, Bristol Palin “will” marry the father of her unborn child. Well, I wonder if the Social Conservatives have given any thought to the possibility that the father will not want to marry Bristol. Of course, since Bristol is not due to give birth until after the election, this really doesn’t matter to a lying bunch of hypocritical right-wing nut jobs. The G.O.P. spin machine is running on high right now pumping out lie after lie for consumption by the American people. There are so many lies that are flooding the Internet from Republicans that I’ll bet people around the world are laughing their heads off at us, and wondering if we will buy this. I won’t. But, I don’t know how many of my fellow citizens I can count on to do the same thing. The Founding Fathers concept of an “educated electorate” flew out the window long ago in this country. Obama/Biden 08!!!

Posted by: caliguy55 | September 1, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm

In part I agree with Obama concerning family members being off limits. But when someone is held up as a religious conservative, nominated as possible VP to comfort the religious right, then the principles of a viewpoint that are violated should not be swept under the carpet. It is hypocritical of Palin to tout “family values” and support legislation that restricts rights based on these religious values and then expect that a “mistake” by one of her children should not reflect negatively on her. We have had 8 years of hypocrites leading this country. We don’t need 4 more. It is hypocritical and sad that the right wing is willing to turn its back on something like this just for the sake of having someone they can endorse who supports their hate values.

Posted by: BOB IC | September 1, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm

Although I understand why Sen. Obama is telling people to back off Palin’s family, it was Palin, herself, John McCain, and the McCain/Palin campaign that brought her family into question and under scrutiny.
I agree with Obama that children should not be part of the political process. I agree that he should tell people to leave them alone. He’s a father and it’s a parent’s obligation and natural instinct to protect their children.
But Palin has stated that her motherhood makes her qualified to be Vice President of the United States. She said it demonstrates her ability to multitask.
What testaments of a mother’s job performance are there other than her children’s health and behavior?
If her children do not abide by her “policies,” then Palin’s ability to “lead” is doubtful.
McCain/Palin needs to quit stretching her “qualifications.” They need to take her motherhood, her children — all of them, and her anti-abortion stance out of the game. If they continue to flout her position as a mother in her qualifications, then I want to see all of their medical records and school records including grades, attendance, health and behavior.

Posted by: Fair Game | September 1, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm

What concerns me is that if Sarah Palin doesn’t believe in birth control or condems, is it possible she could get pregnant again? Many women have recently been waiting into their late forties to have children. EEEEEEEEU!

Posted by: roxanne | September 1, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm

AMB: Don’t blame me I didn’t put Palin’s family in th spot light SHE did . You don’t want to play with the dirty political people drop out. Don’t put your name in the paper. She put her family at risk. Thats like someone taking their family to warzone then then they get hurt and you blame those shooting. Republicans started the dirty play I of all people would know because I was against strongly against Obama but when i look at my options as a pragmatist I rather his hope then the Republicans dirty tricks when the country I love is in danger. So don’t blame me when the unborn baby i targeted or Bristol or anyone else. Edwards baby was not off limited, Michelle was not , Wright and the people worshiping at their church were so neither is Palin’s family. Sun Tze said attack you enemy when they are weakest and if the Republicans wanted to play that way before they are fair targets now.

Posted by: Real republican | September 1, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm

Now at the next news conference with John McCain perhaps someone in the media will ask him if he has anything to do with the smear campaign that has been waged against the Obamas for months. Nice move, GOP, try to blame Obama for the fact that your failure to completely vet your VP is blowing up in your faces. I find it completely offensive as a woman that Palin would put her daughter through this scrutiny at such a sensitive time in her life. She had to realize that the details would come out and it strikes me as cruel. She is a politician and she is running to be the VP of the US and it never occurred to her that her family would be scrutinized like this? Her daughter deserves better, she deserves for Palin to truly put her family before politics.

Posted by: Hope | September 1, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm

Olivia – so what does being a father mean? Taking care of your kids first? Then no one who has kids should be in office! Sara Palin represents us all, as women. We have the right to be mothers and work. That is what alot of us do every day. Some of us have no choice because we are single mothers. Obviously, pro life means alot of things, more than there is space to mention. The point is this: PRO “LIFE” = Sara Pahil.. she is the People’s leader. and btw.. what the heck was Biden talking about when all all he could say about Sara Pahil is that she was “good looking” and the he is “old”… Typical…..

Posted by: AMB | September 1, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm

i dn have doubt even though you are not mature do not hesitate to have sex. the sad news is that a man can avert himself more easily then a girl regarding sex as he does not carry the baby. shame on the male

Posted by: msdkan | September 1, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm

Real republican – are you serious? PLEASE! It is up to us as “human beings” to stop the BS .. instead of promoting it as you do… Our country is in danger because of simple minds that think simpleminded things and propogate simplemindendess. PEACE brother… stop bringing war against your own..

Posted by: AMB | September 1, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm

I am the mother of two teenagers, and any one that has a teenager knows that you raise them with all the values and morals you believe in and that will help them get through life. Once you have done that you have to pray for them and wait and see what life brings for them at this age. No one teaches their teenagers to get pregnant or to impregnate a girl. It happens and we are not the judge of others. I commend Obama for saying kids are off limits. I commend John McCain for choosing her as his running mate knowing that she has a disabled child and a pregnant one. He didn’t say oh she’s a female and can’t take care of her family so she can’t help our country. He chose who he thought was best. The Obama campaign is not looking at her child to determine whether she should be on the ticket. He is looking at her qualifications and I am sure that is what will be debated not her daughter’s pregnancy. I am honored that both of these men have seen fit to respect Palin and I hope the media stays on track with that same respect.

Posted by: punchy | September 1, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm

Bible Betty is a Hypocrite!

Posted by: roxanne | September 1, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm

I just want to say this is the most intelligent and politically correct position that Obama has held all year. I am glad and thankful Obama feels politicians families are off limits. Politicians children should be off limits!! Hopefully Obama will curtail the attacks and rude things his supporters are saying about Palin’s daughter on the internet. Seriously, How messed up and sad is our country, if folks are attacking a young girl in a time she needs most support?!!!

Posted by: Thank You Obama | September 1, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm

no devils plus..
“Demands for military information were accompanied by threats to terminate my medical treatment if I [McCain] …”
You have to read the W H O L E book to get the complete story!
As for Bristol Palin, this must have been a difficult year for her… knowing that a beloved but imperfect child would be born into her family.
Although none of us condone the birthing of children out-of-wedlock, ..it happens!
And when it happens, it is better to either have the baby or abort the fetus….rather then birth and literally bury the child.
I do not envy the Palins the burden of these heavy decisions this last year….
but I do NOT think any less of her as a reformer and a maverick and a sharp, focused woman than I did yesterday>
Mccain and Palin
COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY

Posted by: america*centric | September 1, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm

Okay. What’s more important than pro-life is proper teaching regarding sex and quality of parenting, regardless of how teenagers can revolt, etc. 90% of the time, there is always a reason why teenagers engage in sex. I’m not Palin’s judge or jury and the public isn’t either.
I agree with Barak Obama that the children are off limits to the Media and their personal business. If it is true that she lied to cover-up, etc. it will unfold.
However, hypocrisy isn’t right and if there are underlying issues in need of attention, which is a family’s priority. Joe Biden, stated that the Country could get another senator, but his boys have 1 dad and he was sworn in at the hospital bedside, etc. and the Biden’s wear their love on their sleeve.
If this were Barak Obama’s family, all sorts of radical comments would be slinging from the Red camp (including the public who have a problem with a non-white as President)! All of a sudden-another Media frenzy, as we’ve witnessed.
Nothing stays hidden in the dark. It all comes to light.
As for comments of Rev. Wright, Obama, children, etc. I’m appalled at the ignorance, etc.
I don’t agree with trivializing the matter-sweeping it beneath the rug, etc.
The greater good in relationships is to abstain from sex until marriage (especially teenagers) which takes care of the out-of-wedlock issue. Marrying a man just because of pregnancy isn’t the best answer either. Studies show it often leads to divorce.
Personally, if she is expecting, I think the kinder thing (in protection of the daughter and grandchild) would have been to remain in the background-not out of shame, but to avoid what’s happening now.
Whether we like it or not, Gov. Palin’s daughter indirectly became a role model and unconsciously many Teenagers will follow suit, unless they’ve had a revelation in their lives to mature more, prioritize their studies and embrace the “love waits” message.

Posted by: Jewel | September 1, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm

Hey, AMB, the candidate you’re defending is named Sarah Palin, not Pahil.
And yes, of course mothers have the right to work, though personally I would question the judgment of any parent–male or female–who decides to seek the absolutely most demanding jobs in the country when they have five children, one of whom has special needs and needs extra care, and now we learn that their 17-yr-old also has a child on the way, which will require extra care. I don’t believe that it’s wrong for a woman to run for VP under these circumstances; I think it’s wrong and irresponsible for ANYONE, male or female, to run for VP at this particular point in his or her career. There are plenty of more manageable jobs that a politician can have at this particular point in his or her life without it being the second highest job in the country.
Not too hypocritical on the whole family values thing, eh?

Posted by: SP | September 1, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm

This is an entirely private family matter. I won’t be voting for Sen. Obama in November (my vote is still for McCain/Palin), but I completely agree that families should be off limits (unless it’s a spouse campaigning on a husband’s behalf.)
How many of the critics out there are the same ones who argue that kids will be kids, that parents cannot control everything their kids do but can only try and instill their values? It seems hypocritical to then turn around and call Sarah Palin a poor parent. Oh well, women always get blamed for events they can’t control anyway (how many times has Hillary gotten blamed for not uniting the Democrats for Obama?)
What’s the word for that? Oh yes, sexism (when do the men and fathers get blamed?)

Posted by: Not an issue | September 1, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm

Why on earth did she agree to become a VP candidate if she knew that her 17 year old unmarried daughter was 5 months pregnant? What kind of parent (mother or father) would put their child in the spotlight during such a terribly emotional time? It’s disgusting. The media is going to rip her family to shreds; and all of it could have been avoided.
And what does this say about McCain’s judgment (if indeed he did know about the pregnancy)? When McCain says “I support her 1000%”, then we know she’s toast.

Posted by: timmer | September 1, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm

I have nothing negative to say about Palin’s family. To me hers is just a normal family, apparently very united. But the hypocricy of the rapture-awating evangelical fanatics is what amazes me. Had anything close to these scandals (DWI, unmarried pregnant teen, abuse of power) been happening to a Democrats they would be up in everyone’s face talking about their “family values” hypocricy. The Obamas and the Bidens are perfect examples of American family values, but you can’t say that about the McCains and the Palins.

Posted by: Miguel | September 1, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm

One other comment: Despite all the issues/scandals surrounding the Clintons one thing they always excelled at during Bill’s campaign/administration was protecting Chelsea.

Posted by: Not an issue | September 1, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm

SP – it always amuses me how people are willing to judge what others are capable of. Don’t you think that someone as experienced, smart, dedicated and educated as Sara PALIN, gave this some thought before she accepted? But you must know more than she does about her own life and circumstances… please share with the rest of the class! I can’t wait to hear…

Posted by: AMB | September 1, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm

AMB- 100% serious. You show no quarter for an enemy who who do what they can to destroy you. Thats the problem with liberals and democrats you can not reason with irrational people. Republicans attack they run a negative campaign you whats right is to attack with equal or greater force or people will push you over. Thats how you deter these things to show people they have just as much to loose. Most Americans are not smart enough to understand intelligent explanations all they want is the gotcha one liners. They don’t care about about being nice. McCain when negative and went up in the polls turn about is fair play. When I was 7 my soccer coach told me “second place is for losers to make them feel better about themselves.” I never forgot that. Democrats and be nice and loose but ask yourself this do the history books remember who was negative, do they remember who was lost, or do they remember who won. Noone asks how. machiavelli the ends just the means and “… anyone compelled to choose will find greater security in being feared than in being loved.”

Posted by: Real republican | September 1, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm

Real republican – Thank God you aren’t a candidate!

Posted by: AMB | September 1, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm

McCain’s judgement on making Palin his VP pick is an example of ambition first. He chose her with the sole purpose of aiming former Clinton supporters. Obama put country first, he could have chosen Bayh, Kaine or Clinton to secure more votes or tilt a state like VA or IN in his favor but he put country first asking Joe Biden to help him govern our country. Palin may sound good, but let’s check the facts. Another fanatic evangelical rapture-awating far-right governor of an oil/energy state, just like George W. Bush, who believes that we, already behind in education, should be teaching our kids creationism instead of science. Palin is more of the same, McCain is Bush the third, more of the same, McSame is insane !!!

Posted by: Miguel | September 1, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm

A couple questions. How old is the father? Is messing with a 17 yo legal in AK?
What about the pipeline deal she negotiated? Is it true that AK residents put up $500 ml, and the company put up nothing but will get 3x damages for any fees (legal) that they incur if they are not used to complete the deal? If so — great job of representing AK residents.

Posted by: lakeaffect | September 1, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm

AMB: Why because I understand what it takes to win? Are you suggesting it is better to be nice and let Mccain destroy our country? That when he lets gas get to $6/gallon thats acceptable. When he starts the draft to get soldiers for his war against Iran and North korean and his 100 year war against Iraq, while ignoring the people who attacked us in Afghanistan but our country in danger. So sit by be a nice guy while he destroys social security and our economy. Yes thats right we should not be negative, so protect yourself turn the other check second place is good enough. You are right. I am sorry as i said before Palin put her family in the middle of the war that the Republicans started. What ever happens is her fault. Someone has to stand up and do what needs to be done to protect our country by any means necessary. Throughout the history of the world that is how people have survived and protected the future, Sun Tze said it Machiavelli said it Malcolm X said it, Churchill said it, FDR aid it and it is still applicable today. If she doesn’t want people to talk about her family get out of the race because the Republicans would not grant the same quarter.

Posted by: Real republican | September 1, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm

How pathetic!
John McCain pick her without vetting her, it is obvious . It was attempt to patronize women. A attempt as transparent as Eddie Haskell talking to Mrs. Cleaver.
Everyone knows if Palin was dem, the right wingers would be all over her daughter. How hypocritical!
McCain did not know about the pregnancy , or else he or Palin would have memtion earlier not release it during a hurricance, before bloggers.
I would have more respect for him if he said he didnt know. Why treat the american public as idiots.
Then the right wingers,want to blame Obama for it.How sad ? I question John McCain’s judgement and Gov Palin’s deception

Posted by: Samantha | September 1, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm

AMB:
I never said she wasn’t capable or smart. If you re-read what I wrote, I said that in my opinion–and after all that’s what these comments are–I don’t think it’s right for any candidate, male or female, to run for what is possible one of the world’s most demanding jobs when she has a 4-month-old baby, and her 17-yr-old is 5-months pregnant. That comment has nothing to do with Sarah Palin’s personal abilities or her husband’s. It has to do with their judgment about what kind of time commitment they thought was appropriate for their careers at a time in their lives when they have their hands full. Of course it’s their decision and their judgment. Nothing I say is going to change that, but MY OPINION is as I stated. If you can’t handle people expressing their opinions, then that’s your problem.

Posted by: SP | September 1, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm

I think accepting the VP slot as a champion of family values when you know you have a preggers teen is child abuse. Does this woman not care about Bristol? Why didn’t she teach the girl about birth control? Oh, she doesn’t believe in it? I don’t want this kind of person running my country.

Posted by: red lady | September 1, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm

I wonder how many liberal parents have teenage children that get pregnant.

Posted by: FortuneFavorsTheBrave | September 1, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm

Most of you on this post seriously need to get a life. Are you all in high school? Life is too short to spend it like this.

Posted by: Jackel | September 1, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm

Some of you are wasting your brain cells on a personal issue that is none of your business while our fellow americans are going through a major calamity. Shame on you.

Posted by: FortuneFavorsTheBrave | September 1, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm

Anti-war protest causing anarchy and damages in Minnesota. It is a shame to call yourselves anti-war. You can’t hold a peaceful demonstration because of your anger problem. Some of you don’t even have the courage to serve this country when it counts and you call yourselves americans.

Posted by: FortuneFavorsTheBrave | September 1, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm

SP – and my “opinion” is that people who make statements or express “opinions” about the judgement a person makes about his or her own life is simpleminded when they don’t even know the person or aren’t even a part of that’s persons life. So if you don’t like my opinion, then that is your problem. :-)

Posted by: AMB | September 1, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm

We got too many high school bloggers here?
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Most of you on this post seriously need to get a life. Are you all in high school? Life is too short to spend it like this.
Posted by: Jackel

Posted by: FortuneFavorsTheBrave | September 1, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm

deb – move to iraq, iran or afganistan… where women have no rights at all.. where women are fightng and dying to have our rights… and then say what a woman’s place should be.. good grief…

Posted by: AMB | September 1, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm

To america*centric:
Obama wasn’t conceived out of wedlock. His parents married, though against their parents’ desires. And they were both in college.

Posted by: FairGame | September 1, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm

Yes, AMB, of course. You have every right to express your misguided opinions.
;-)

Posted by: SP | September 1, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm

First of all, I don’t know why you call yourself a Real Republican. I just don’t get it.
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AMB: Why because I understand what it takes to win? Are you suggesting it is better to be nice and let Mccain destroy our country? That when he lets gas get to $6/gallon thats acceptable. When he starts the draft to get soldiers for his war against Iran and North korean and his 100 year war against Iraq, while ignoring the people who attacked us in Afghanistan but our country in danger. So sit by be a nice guy while he destroys social security and our economy. Yes thats right we should not be negative, so protect yourself turn the other check second place is good enough. You are right. I am sorry as i said before Palin put her family in the middle of the war that the Republicans started. What ever happens is her fault. Someone has to stand up and do what needs to be done to protect our country by any means necessary. Throughout the history of the world that is how people have survived and protected the future, Sun Tze said it Machiavelli said it Malcolm X said it, Churchill said it, FDR aid it and it is still applicable today. If she doesn’t want people to talk about her family get out of the race because the Republicans would not grant the same quarter.
Posted by: Real republican

Posted by: FortuneFavorsTheBrave | September 1, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm

SP – I think there is a saying about the pot calling the kettle black??? I think you know it.. right? hahaha

Posted by: AMB | September 1, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm

“I wonder how many liberal parents have teenage children that get pregnant.
Posted by: FortuneFavorsTheBrave | Sep 1, 2008 7:51:33 PM
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And I wonder how many CONSERVATIVE parents have teenage children who have gotten pregnant?
And does being conservative or liberal, republican or democrat…. have anything whatso ever to do with teen-age pregnancies? Naah!
Frankly, maybe we should re-instate those “modesty belts”….. the ones which can only be opened with a very special key held by G-d and released to the owner only after the marriage vows are declared and legalized.

Posted by: america*centric | September 1, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm

Obama is absolutely right – she’s a kid, leave her out of all discussions.

Posted by: Citizen Voter | September 1, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm

If the anti-choice christian zealot Sarah Palin wants to stick her bony nose into other people’s private lives, then I think we should stick our noses into her private life.

Posted by: Bluteau | September 1, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm

FortuneFavorsTheBrave: I am a real republican because I know I mut protect my country before I protect a corrupt party. McCain awful decision, he is feeble and pathetic. Palin being 1 heartbeat off of the reigns of control of the free world. Worse descion. I have voting Republican all my life, and i may have been wrong, but I know not to make this mistake and risk the whole free world to protect a political party. Thats why I am a real republican because I know to protect my country first.

Posted by: Real republican | September 1, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm

It’s sad that this young woman’s choices are so circumscribed by the potential opinions of the electorate. Now she has to get married to someone who may not even be right for her, why? Because some arm-chair quarterback who knows just what’s right for everyone else’s kids may disapprove of her mother otherwise? That’s the real tragedy.
It’s wrong that this poor girl is being dragged into the spotlight for something that really shouldn’t have anything to do with the election. Gov. Palin did not put her there, of course, but because of her candidacy, Bristol’s private life is going to be played out on the national stage.
Bristol is the one carrying the child and she deserves to be able to make any family planning decisions (abortion, adoption, marriage, or single motherhood) on her own, without 300 million people watching over her shoulder. Right or not, that won’t happen as long as Gov. Palin is running for vice president.

Posted by: Alan Crocker | September 1, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm

america*centric
I am glad you made this comment. You are right teenage pregnancy has no party affiliation but I was basically trying to bring out the same point to the liberals on their attack on Sandra Palin. Thanks. So whatever happened to Palin’s daughter is a family issue. It is none of these people’s business.
“And does being conservative or liberal, republican or democrat…. have anything whatso ever to do with teen-age pregnancies? Naah!”
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“I wonder how many liberal parents have teenage children that get pregnant.
Posted by: FortuneFavorsTheBrave | Sep 1, 2008 7:51:33 PM
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And I wonder how many CONSERVATIVE parents have teenage children who have gotten pregnant?
And does being conservative or liberal, republican or democrat…. have anything whatso ever to do with teen-age pregnancies? Naah!
Frankly, maybe we should re-instate those “modesty belts”….. the ones which can only be opened with a very special key held by G-d and released to the owner only after the marriage vows are declared and legalized.
Posted by: america*centric

Posted by: FortuneFavorsTheBrave | September 1, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm

Since the evangels call abortion what about fornication ? The bible and Webster both say fornication is unlawful sex . Will anybody ever tell the truth about why the evangels latched on to abortion as their main issue ? Is one sin worst than all the others ? Or is this a smoke and mirrors charade ?

Posted by: unionave | September 1, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm

Real republican – A fanatic is one who can’t change his mind and won’t change the subject.

Posted by: AMB | September 1, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm

Are you kidding? ANYONE can post ANYTHING online and people read this BS as if it is fact or truth? I can be a 14 year old posing as a Repub or Dem just having play time, stirring up the blogs.
I saw this article, but started reading the blog … like I say ARE YOU KIDDING ME? There is nothing real in America any more. All perception, posing, smoke and mirrors. Just read up on Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, Colin Powell U.N presentation, the first week of Cheney’s vice-presidency (remember the ultra secret energy policy meeting?), the “I never had sex with that woman”, and now a VP pick who is “proud” of her daughter’s choice to have her baby but felt compelled to cover her belly with a blanket and another baby at one of her first appearances. Just like these blogs … all BS.

Posted by: John Collontano | September 1, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm

CHUCK LESTER
NEVER MIND WHAT OBAMA WHOULD DO.OR DID MR MAVERICK McCAIN GOT YOU IN THIS MESS. IS IT HIM BEEN MORE CLEVER THAN ANY ONE ELSE, HIRING SOME FOR THE SECOND TOP JOB IN THE LAND WITHOUT VETTING HER THAT IS THE QUESTION MY FRIEND.

Posted by: Benbuti | September 1, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm

Two things bother me (in different ways).
First, they could have kept this quiet, and tried to protect the girl’s privacy. Instead, they decided to use it refute the rumor that Trig is not Sarah Palin’s child but Bristol’s.
Second, how did Bristol get knocked up when she was at home for months with mononucleosis?

Posted by: SqueakyRat | September 1, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm

For me- what matters is- Holy Palin is not able to save her own daughter from committing sin (Is not getting pregnant without marriage a sin in Ultra-Conservative world)…It is- and trust me when I say it will effect McCain’s candidacy. I come from Oklahoma and I really know those Ultra Conservative people. They will not vote for Obama- but they will not vote for Palin also. Pregnant at 17 without marriage- oh- that is a disaster in that circle.

Posted by: Karen | September 1, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm

Poor evangelicals!!!
your so beloved pro-life, pro-guns lady can’t really teach her kids not to have sex before marriage, she prefers campaigning for her own future than taking care of her special-needs child. She screwed her family and now she is going to ask you for your vote to screw your family.
Sins, so many sins and always from the so-called good christians (who by the way, are too RICH!!!!! seven homes and counting).

Posted by: jasonlv | September 1, 2008, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm

DailyKOS jumped the shark into the fever swamp on this one. Leave the girl alone

Posted by: Jonny5o | September 1, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm

karen – seriously? please girl.. and you don’t think that we all have skelatons in our closet? just because you don’t know about everyone’s skelaton’s doesn’t mean they don’t exist.. plesae take off those rose colored glasses honey..

Posted by: AMB | September 1, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm

Real Republican,
I respect your opinion. You made a good point but we just differ in opinion. I am in the military. I stayed in because of the 9-11 and believe in protecting this country. I truly believe we already wasted our best chance to kill Bin Laden when Clinton ignored an urgent call to ask permission to shoot Bin laden when our snipers got within eyesight of him. I know a lot of people will disagree in my comment, probably including you, but I think we did the right attacking Iraq but we used the wrong tactic after the invasion because of Donald Rumsfeld’s unwillingness to listen to the commanders on the field. The problem with Bush was he only listened to Rumsfeld when this guy was the Secretary of Defense. Bush and Rumsfeld had ignored the Powell Doctrine. Bush only agreed to the McCain’s surge because Rumsfeld resigned. I think Rumsfeld was the key person why Colin Powell resigned. Obama reminds me of Donald Rumsfeld for he setting his policy before he had a chance to the generals and the troops and for not giving the crediting the troops enough for the success of the surge. On the same token, he is advocating the Iraq surge tactic in Afghanistan. I am also surprised with Obama’s comments and flip-flop on foreign policy. I think he lacks the sense of accountability and structure that is a must for the job of the Commander-In-Chief.
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FortuneFavorsTheBrave: I am a real republican because I know I mut protect my country before I protect a corrupt party. McCain awful decision, he is feeble and pathetic. Palin being 1 heartbeat off of the reigns of control of the free world. Worse descion. I have voting Republican all my life, and i may have been wrong, but I know not to make this mistake and risk the whole free world to protect a political party. Thats why I am a real republican because I know to protect my country first.
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Posted by: FortuneFavorsTheBrave | September 1, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm

A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.

Posted by: AMB | September 1, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm

“Do NOT tell me this was done without Obama’s knowledge… or without information leaked from his headquarters!”
america*centric – you are wrong.
No one had to leak anything. I went to some Alaska online papers to see what Alaskans think about Palin. I ran across those rumors after about five minutes. The orinal comments date back to around the time Trig Palin was born.
I get email from Obama (and McCain) always asking for cash – never spreading rumors or anything else.
The “internets” have all kinds of stuff – lots of it NOT engineered by Barack Obama, so get over yourself.

Posted by: detepe | September 1, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm

AMB: Maybe you didn’t read. I did change my mind. To this day i am registered as a Republican always have been since I was allowed to vote. But I understand what’s fair is fair. Justice is blind. If it was acceptable for my party to attack the Obamas and their associates then it is equally acceptable for visa versa. I am a pragmatist, I see the republican candidate was not right for america and I changed from from being strongly against Obama to supporting him in these circumstances not because I agree with the Democratic party at all not can they except my support in any other circumstance but this is more important than party lines. So no i’m not a fanatic, I am a pragmatist who puts his country first and is willing to do what is right and proper to protect it from its enemies both external and internal.

Posted by: Real republican | September 1, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm

How old is this “Man” that articles refer to that is the father? Are we talking about a 17 year-old boy as father? Or a “Man” of legal age and thus technically and legally a rapist or sexual predator in todays legal playground? Will this affect the future vice president’s view on such relationships? Or will she give it her own a special exemption? This isn’t entirely a private issue, it reflects on this woman’s political views and ethics.

Posted by: Rick_VT | September 1, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm

Karen, and God himself did not stop Adam and Eve from eating the fruit of knowledge of good and evil. I myself, I have two daughters but I can’t honestly say that I could stop them from getting pregnant at a very tender age. I’l do my best but I can’t control them completely. In addition, Palin’s daughter is getting married.

Posted by: FortuneFavorsTheBrave | September 1, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm

Obama is always a class act.. . his responses are strong, solid, fair and issued with judgment… he never fails to walk his talk… unlike McCain whose sleaze is oozing all over.

Posted by: origood | September 1, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm

AMB, great point.
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A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.
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Posted by: FortuneFavorsTheBrave | September 1, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm

Origood, it was nice for Obama to tell the media to back off but he failed to denounce Daily Kos and Moveon.org… If he made a bold move to denounce this two organizations, I will vote for him.
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Obama is always a class act.. . his responses are strong, solid, fair and issued with judgment… he never fails to walk his talk… unlike McCain whose sleaze is oozing all over.
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Posted by: FortuneFavorsTheBrave | September 1, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm

FortuneFavorsTheBrave: No I agree that Iraq perhaps was not 100% wrong but I think that that there is a time for war and a time for peace. The military did its job, the soldiers deserve a rest and it is dangerous to continue to occupy a country which is spreading our army thin and putting soldiers life in danger. there are more important places to deploy our resources to protect America. This war is over, it is impossible to fight an insurgency of fanatics in their own country. They want to fight and kill each other let them do it. They have billions of dollars in oil profits that they protect while we use our money and resources driving us into debt and driving down our economy to support them. And what do we gain that we don’t have with a quick response strike force in the Persian gulf to take down terrorists when they pop up? My whole point is at least Obama would support America first rather than other big oil and others who would love for this to continue at risk to our national security. Clinton was 100% wrong for not killing Bin Laden when he had the opportunity but Bush is culpable too for tracking him to a cave and letting him slip out the back door while he prepared to invade Iraq. trust me I understand the issue I worked in the WTC exactly one month before 9/11. I was on the 101 floor on 8/11 in the windows of the world. But i also understand not every muslim is my enemy. And i rather find those whole are responsible for killing my friends than those who simply look like them. Obama has promised to do that in my opinion McCain has done the opposite. And he has further put this country at risk with his VP selection so no i don’t support the party, i support America and doing whats right. And its not right to allow Republicans to perform a hatchet job on the Obamas and their associates then say Palin’s family is off limits. What’s good for one is good for the other. Its childish to throw mud then cry foul when it gets thrown back at you.

Posted by: Real republican | September 1, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm

Real republican – so what about Sara Palin scares you so much? So far I haven’t been able to get any real substance from your comments about her.. I am not sure that you even really know why you don’t like her.. Do you know?

Posted by: AMB | September 1, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm

Real republican, Obama has been campaigning for 19 months but I still have not heard directly from Obama about his experience and accomplishments. At least Palin did it in her first speech. Although I didn’t like Bill Clinton as a Commander-In-Chief, he had more experience and accomplishments than Obama. He made more sense than Obama when he campaigned against the older Bush. I heard enough Bush attack, McSame attack and promises. But not enough meat in the bone.

Posted by: FortuneFavorsTheBrave | September 1, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm

“My creed is that public service must be more than doing a job efficiently and honestly. It must be a complete dedication to the people and to the nation with full recognition that every human being is entitled to courtesy and consideration, that constructive criticism is not only to be expected but sought, that smears are not only to be expected but fought, that honor is to be earned, not bought.”

Posted by: AMB | September 1, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm

“Anyone that wants the presidency so much that he’ll spend two years organizing and campaigning for it is not to be trusted with the office.”

Posted by: AMB | September 1, 2008, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm

AMB: Noone wants war but when it is brought to you if you continue to turn turn the other cheek you will have no more cheeks only a red face. I don’t advocate starting something I advocate finishing it the best way possible. if that means some innocent blood needs to be split to protect the masses its worth while. I can be wrong but it seems it takes evil to defeat evil. Thats why cops carry guns and our military does not go to battle with flowers then go with guns

Posted by: Real republican | September 1, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm

It is clear that Obama has integrity and is not afraid to debate the real issues. It is also clear that McCain is desperate… His VP choice is an indication of POOR decision making. He only met her once before offering the job. She admits to not knowing what the VP even does. She admits to not really having an opinion on Iraq. She wants to take Polar bears of the endangered species list so we can drill for oil in Alaska. Her approval rating has been slipping for months and she is embroiled in a scandalous investigation. Is John McCain really putting country first by selecting this woman to be a heartbeat away from the presidency?????

Posted by: Malika | September 1, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm

Real Republican,
“Obama has promised to do that in my opinion McCain has done the opposite.”
A promise is a promise. Word is cheap. But as I said, I heard enough promises. Promises are cheap with no meat in the bones. In order for a Commander-In-Chief to become successful, the president must know accountability and structure. So far, for 19 months, I think he has not demonstrated both. For Obama to say that Iran is a small country and does not pose a threat to us is plain ignorant. I myself have seen the Iranian with their guns pointed at us, provoking us to engage on them first to make us look bad to the rest of the world. You DO NOT hear everything in the news. Same as you, I don’t see all muslims as enemy. I also don’t like war. On the other hand, I still believe we did the right thing invading Iraq. We had to create a central battlefield against the terrorist that we can keep them busy liked a conventional war. Iraq turned out to be the perfect place since her former leader was obviously an evil person. I was also concerned about Saddam’s sons who are much more evil than him. Otherwise, we are going to end up with sporadic attacks and fighting all over the world and at home. I think that is the main reason why we have not been attack in the past 7 years. I also like what I see when women are getting treated better and equally in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Posted by: FortuneFavorsTheBrave | September 1, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm

I am a democratic woman that believes that parents should take care of their family first. How many people would give birth to a disabled child, and at the same time discover one of their minor children was pregnant, and say, SURE! I have time to be Vice President of the United States of America!
A narcissistic beauty queen, that’s who would say yes.
We all make sacrifices in our lives, I cannot fathom my mother or myself making such a selfish choice.
And.. for someone that preaches abstinence, she did a terrible job at home.

Posted by: Pamaela | September 1, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm

Real Republican, I also see the nomination of a strong women liked Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton as a major slap to Bin Laden and to both Shia and Sunni terrorists and fundamentalists and to their fundamentalist view.

Posted by: FortuneFavorsTheBrave | September 1, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm

If Palin wasn’t boasting of being a Maverick who would reverse “Ro v. Wade”,
it wouldn’t be so bad, but to see that she stated that her daughter chose to have the child,I find it very hypocritical.
She and McCain said that would reverse Roe v Wade for all women. How could you reverse every woman’s choice that allowed your own daughter to have a choice. The main key is that people fought that Your Daughter would have a choice, yet you would fight to take away every other woman’s or other woman’s daughter choice. HYPOCRIT!!!
While I sympathize with your situation, you are denying every other female their RIGHTS!!!! THAT IS NOT RIGHT !!!!
THAT IS A HYPOCRIT !!!! I’M GLAD ALASKA IS OKAY WITH IT, BUT YOU RUNNING FOR THE UNITED STATES VICE PRESIDENT !!!! AND YOU ARE FIGHTING WOMEN’S RIGHT TO CHOOSE AND THAT IS WRONG !!!!

Posted by: Woman for Change | September 1, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm

AMB: Why I don’t like McCain in summary, he betrayed our military, he stands with oil companies, he cares more about being belligerent to the world rather than protecting our country, he is for cutting taxes for the rich and leaving the middle class and poor to suffer, he is for draining our Social security so my generation will have nothing, for that matter the man has 100s of millions of dollars and still instead of saying look I want to forgo my social security check because i don’t need it just as a gesture not he happily take the check to add to his stash, he graduated almost at the bottom of his class and he is incompetent in general and that is for starters. Palin well, lets see what i know, one she is a religious fanatic as you described it easier. he want to stop the teaching of evolution in schools, she wants to ban abortion, ( I don’t support abortion but I would not pass a law to ban it its a person choice between you and your God.) She said she knew nothing about international politics she doesn’t know what the VP does, she has only in her life been on the city council of a town of about 6000 people governor for 20 months of a state of less than 1 million people. And this person is supposed to be next in line if god forbid something happens to the 72 year old cancer patient. Oh I forgot she was the sports anchor for that little bit there. You can call me elitist but she only has a journalism degree from the university of Idaho, not a degree in politics or economics or an MBA or a MD or a JD a journals BA from U of Idaho. Thats for starters, there are plenty of qualified women to be VP why pick the beauty queen no excuse me runner up to the beauty queen. Our country the free world is at stake and this is what McCain has planed a shotgun, joining of him and a beauty queen.

Posted by: Real republican | September 1, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm

Burnt Orange says the GOP is selling…or allowing the sale of “Obama bin Biden” t-shirts in St. Paul.
Meanwhile, poke around the Anchorage Daily News site and you’ll find a couple articles that suggest the baby belongs to the older daughter, she still has weight from the pregnancy, and mom used the child for sympathy votes as a political prop.
Inexcusable. Sarah Palin made the baby a political football.

Posted by: kravitz | September 1, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm

AMB said “so what does being a father mean? Taking care of your kids first? Then no one who has kids should be in office! Sara Palin represents us all, as women. We have the right to be mothers and work.
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You are right – women do have the right to work when they have children. Many women do not have a choice in the matter. But when a family is in crisis, which it sounds like this family is, is not the time to seek a demanding high political office. Most moms would take advantage of the family leave act in this situation. Frankly, it makes me very skeptical of her and of John McCain and his motives. Picking someone only because they are a woman and attractive to the conservative base makes me question his judgement. I think he was looking for shock value to steal the limelight. I always respected McCain, now I wonder if he deserves my respect.

Posted by: Olivia | September 1, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm

Pamaela, there is no such thing as perfect parent whether you are a liberal, conservative or independent. My wife and I were not perfect parents. I would not be able to say if I can stop my daughters from getting pregnant at a tender age. But all I can say is I’ll do my best to be the best parent I could be to them. This kinds of things happen.

Posted by: FortuneFavorsTheBrave | September 1, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm

McCain has known about Palin and her accomplishments for a long time. Why are women so threatened by a woman who has a family and a successful career? I think she is a role model for all girls that you can do it all. She also has a very supportive husband who co-parents with her. You diffenently cannot call her an elitist. Her family has problems just like the rest of America. You deal with the problems as they come long and get on with life.

Posted by: S Adams | September 1, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm

Hmmmm I’d say a sperm was responsible for her being pregnant and that it was going to come out at some point. Who put it there is a bit of a none point.
This is why ‘bedroom’ morals have no place in public life, it has no impact on her ability to be VP.
I’m more concerned that she was in a party that doesn’t want to be in the USA. That she may have used her position to settle a family score. That she stands for things I disagree with.
I’m more concerned McCain took a risky VP choice to satisfy his base but ALSO look a maverick on someone who will have things dragged up as she has never been tested by a harsh media really before. That shows a reckless streak and poor judgement looking to the headlines, jsut like Bush.
The Republicans are such hypocrites on this anyway… Obama is not responsible for every “liberal” blogger anymore that McCain is responsible for right wing nuts. If it is the case then I lay the Obama Muslim myth right on his doorstep.

Posted by: Pete | September 1, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm

Real Republican- is your real name Karl ROve?
Obama walk the walk, and McCain’s campaign has tried every slimy trick in the book, calling Obama a muslim and an elitist (while mcsame lost count of his homes!), comparing him to paris hilton… You sit here and call obama inexperienced when McSnarky thinks the ecomony is just fine and we need a 100 more years of war in the middle east?!?!?
McCain has set the bar so low during this election, any scumbag politician would seem decent. please show me how moveon.org is spreading any rumors about this promiscuous VP daughter (teaching abstinence only works in theory btw!), please post a link to validate the propaganda/lies you write. The Bush administration supports torture, gave contracts to their buddies like Halliburton, let New Orleans drown, decided to wiretap americans, created trillions in debt (now China owns us), spread the military so thin it can’t defend any other countries, and lied to americans about WMDs and let Bin Laden go free once they cornered him… If you were a “real republican” you would have asked this country to impeach bush and saved your party from being the disgrace it is today.
Even if McCain weren’t a snarky old man that thinks this ecomonic downtur is “psychological” and it’s funny to tell jokes about apes raping women and sing songs about bombing Iran- he would still LOSE. Bush ruined your party… no one will ever trust it again.

Posted by: bostonteapartier | September 1, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm

FortuneFavorsTheBrave: a promise is better than nothing. Mccain has promised nothing but to destroy the country. There has been 8 years of pirate politics and he promises nothing but the same. McCain talks to the base and brags about how he is just like Bush how he doesn’t know much about the economy. Then when it comes to that not being good he says voting with Bush more than 90% of the time doesn’t mean anything he is going to fix the system. Obama can’t do much worse. I say give him a chance see what he’s got. Nothing is forever. Further you an I both know why Iran hates us. If they invaded Canada and Mexico and sat their army on either board we would talk big too. You an I both know they do not have the weapons capacity to attack us both know that what ever they have we can stop and retaliate 100 fold. Do you think they are prepared to commit suicide for nothing. Let me also point out we were not attacked for many years before 9/11. Iraq poses little threat; our enemies are in Afghanistan and instead of going after them as Obama promised and plans to Mccain wants to sit back and fight in Iraq and set up bases there which will go nothing but stir up a hornets net and cause more problems then its worth. With carries groups that can strike any where in the world in an hours time why do we need boots on the ground in a place that will incite the enemy? My only point is America first.

Posted by: Real republican | September 1, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm

FortuneFavorsTheBrave,
I never suggested that parents are perfect. My points were:
1.) When your family is in crisis, you make sacrifices. Let’s face it, she has a job close to home, so saying no to the VP role would not likely hurt the family financially, and could in fact help it through what I would consider a very challenging time.
2.) She is pro-life and pro-abstinence. She has proven that a pro-abstinence approach is not effective.

Posted by: Pamela | September 1, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm

bostonteapartier : I suggest you real any of my previous post before you make such comments. I think you would see we don’t disagree all that much. And if fact I said the same thing you said so I don’t know what lies and propaganda you are refusing to because it would suggest what you said are the same.

Posted by: Real republican | September 1, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm

We live in an interesting time.
Liberal candidates with real family values – no affairs, no divorces….
Conservative candidates with questionable values… divorce, affairs, teenage pregnancies….
Hmm, what happened to “practice what you preach”….
makes me wonder about those liberals.. They appear to be setting an example for America rather than trying to preach… sort of what being ‘Christlike’ is all about
and the conservatives….. do what I want you to do , not what I do… sort of the ‘Christian’ theme these days
quite an eye-opener!!!
What would Jesus think if he was around my dear fellow christians? Sometimes I am ashamed to call myself a christian with your deep depths of hypocrisy.
Killing an innocent is evil whether it is an unborn child or an Iraqi child.. collateral damage takes place in both cases and neither is acceptable.
It is not a case of being liberal or conservative, it is about respecting life!!!!!

Posted by: Brian | September 1, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm

We live in an interesting time.
Liberal candidates with real family values – no affairs, no divorces….
Conservative candidates with questionable values… divorce, affairs, teenage pregnancies….
Hmm, what happened to “practice what you preach”….
makes me wonder about those liberals.. They appear to be setting an example for America rather than trying to preach… sort of what being ‘Christlike’ is all about
and the conservatives….. do what I want you to do , not what I do… sort of the ‘Christian’ theme these days
quite an eye-opener!!!
What would Jesus think if he was around my dear fellow christians? Sometimes I am ashamed to call myself a christian with your deep depths of hypocrisy.
Killing an innocent is evil whether it is an unborn child or an Iraqi child.. collateral damage takes place in both cases and neither is acceptable.
It is not a case of being liberal or conservative, it is about respecting life!!!!!

Posted by: brian | September 1, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm

Real Republican,
We attacked Iraq for reasons that we believed were right. We thought that they had weapons of mass destruction and we wanted to take out Sadaam Hussein. It turns out that the current admin cooked the evidence of weapons to get us in there, but our brave soldiers proved that there were no weapons. Sadaam is goine. Mission accomplished. We didn’t go in to fight the Iraqi civil war. The Iraqi government is willing to shoulder the burden and wants us out. Leaving isn’t defeat. We already won. Let’s now get out of Iraq and kick the butt of the guys who attacked us on 9/11 in Afghanistan.
Obama’s right. Leave family alone. Let’s also have McCain tell his wife enough of the catty comments like “I’ve always been proud of my country”. It was sick what Bush did to McCain in the SC primary. McCain needs to show a little backbone and also call the dogs off of Obama’s family.

Posted by: More Realer Republican | September 1, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm

Be careful of those who tout their own moral accomplishments.
Real heros don’t talk about it.
False heros talk of nothing else.

Posted by: elle | September 1, 2008, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm

It’s too bad that the young daughter has to be put under the microscope on what must be a very difficult time. Having said that, Ms. Palin knew that when she accepted McCain’s offer, so that’s that.
This actually says more about McCain than Palin. Of all the qualified Republican women, like Condi Rice, Kay Bailey Hutchinson, or Olympia Snowe, he picks a 20 month governor of a state smaller than greater Louisville with NO foreign policy experience in a time of war? I don’t get it and this revelation makes me question his judgment and how good a job he did vetting this choice, which is looking increasingly reckless for GOP prospects. Down ballot Republicans, like congressional candidates, are probably sitting around going, “John, what were you THINKING?”

Posted by: diogeron | September 1, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm

I don’t agree with Senater Obama on alot things, but he showed alot of class today and I’m sure Gov. Palin and her family appreciated the comments he made. Dem or Rep, these are still real people with real lives. When it comes to political issues let the guns loose, but this girl is only 17 anybody remember when they were 17?

Posted by: Jim | September 1, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm

More Realer Republican: You said exactly what I said, the war is over mission accomplished time to come home. Let the Iraqis fight their own civil war.
I only disagree in the point of leave them alone. There should be no quarter to Palin’s family there was none for Obama’s what’s good for one is good for the other. You want them to back off let them know if they continue with their attacks they have something to loose too. Dente worked with the Russians did it not?

Posted by: Real republican | September 1, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm

I’m glad to hear Obama say it and I’m sure he means it, unlike Bush who pledged to “fire anyone involved” in the outing of CIA agent, Valerie Plame, and then did nothing until Libby was convicted. Then, he commuted his sentence, thereby ensuring that, as the prosecutor said, he “threw dust in our eyes” and we’ll never know if Libby lied to protect Cheney. Having said that, anybody who reads Scott McClellan’s book knows the answer to that question.

Posted by: ron | September 1, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm

Parenting.. making the right choices…
Vice Presidency v/s daughter’s privacy
Political big step v/s personal family tragedy
Fantastic Opportunity v/s unbelievable embarrassment for child
The choice was clear…. let nobody fool themselves. A simple no to McCain and we would have never ever heard about this!
It is all about priorities and what we love more.
I guess that is what the Christian Right is calling Real Family Values

Posted by: brian | September 1, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm

Ideally presidental candidates should come from good families, and their children should be role models. But it is not always the case. This year, Obama came from a mother who was unwed and pregnant at 17. Now Pelin’s daughter is 17, unwed and pregnant. So what can we expect? This is imperfect world.

Posted by: Lisa | September 1, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm

This is what you get, people, with abstinence-only education and when correct sex ed is banned. Un less they just don’t have condoms in Alaska…

Posted by: Liselle | September 1, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm

As a liberal who grew up in the 60′s, got my degree, went to work, then fell in love, got pregnant, got married, became a stay-at-home mom with 2 kids, active in my community and my children’s schools, drove the same volkswagon van for 15 years, no yuppies us! made sacrifices, and then went back to work with a rewarding career in public service (based on my volunteer organizing and successes)when they left for college, I have one thing to say to Sarah: You cannot have it all at once. By accepting McCain’s choice for the VP slot, she is showing us her character: politics, not family or children come first. When John Edwards announced, with tereminal cancer victim Elizabeth at his side, he was going forward with his campaign, I instantly called him a “pig”, and this was before the affair. Why? Because if it was your or my wife or husband, you can bet we would have, for the sake of our spouse and our children, given up the ego and gone with the id: family. I think Sarah may be as egotistic as Edwards, different stripes, but essentially, the same: using and exposing their family for political gain. shame.

Posted by: Can'tHaveItAllAtOnce | September 1, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm

I knew this would happen. Liberals can’t help themselves. This will only get worse and it will get tied back to Obama every single time. This campaign is going perfectly. Every time liberal henchmen open their filthy mouths they alienate more decent Americans.

Posted by: REEE_SPECT_WALK | September 1, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm

Real republican, I am not going to entrust the security of this nation to a senator who does not have enough grit, accountability and structure to push the YES or NO buttons. Obama had voted PRESENT 130 times in the Illinois senate. Our soldiers only have one button to trigger but we know our responsibility when we pull that trigger. In addition, there is no one above the pay grade of a Commander-In-Chief except for the american people. However, whether they like the president or not, they expect the president to make decisions for them whether they like it or not. This nation can’t afford a president who will respond to a 3AM call with an above my pay grade response or this country is tiny country so it is a does not a pose a threat… Remember, the terrorists have no country.

Posted by: FortuneFavorsTheBrave | September 1, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm

Well is the tough Gov. Palin tough enough to ensure her under age daughter doesn’t get Knock up?
Evangelical pure than thou?????
How stupid, for Dobson and the rest to think it’s right because it Gov. Palin’s daughter.
I bet if it were anyone in the DEMS party, they would be condemned by now by the Holier Than Thou Evangelicals, and how bad or evil they are.
Women need the freedom of choice, what if she Hate’s his gut’s afew years down the road?…

Posted by: Salome Daigre | September 1, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm

Don’t cha’ jus’ luuuvvv these hypocrites. The fact that the daughter is “five” months pregnant means absolutely squat. The circumstantial evidence, regarding the son/grandson question, is far from dispelled by this announcement of the daughter now being “five” months along. If one wants to accept the first story line as a lie, why would they not lie about five months when maybe in fact it is only three. This would take us well past the elections, at which time the baby could go to full term, but when born, have it said that it was two months premature in order to cover the tracks. I’m just saying, think about it. I truly hate that we’re even going through this “Enquirer” moment, but given the whack job beliefs and self righteous stance of this Hockey/Hunter/”Snow Maching” VP aspirant Mom, it deserve some quick and close scrutiny.
One more thing. What does this further say about these “low reproductive info parenting whackos”
I rest my case.
http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/8/30/121350/137/486/580223

Posted by: johnie2xs | September 1, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm

I support what Barack has said.
I believe that Sarah Palin’s selfish actions to accept the nomination and the fact that John McSame did not vet this person has demonstrated that he is not a good judge of character, and thus is not prepared to be the commander and chief of this great nation.

Posted by: J Jeffrey | September 1, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm

johnie2xs, if you are just going to provide us an article from daily kos, moveon.org or Huffington post to prove your point, please stop.

Posted by: FortuneFavorsTheBrave | September 1, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm

exuse me, ree spect walk, “filthy mouth”,? is that any way to talk about a decent woman who could have been YOUR mother. get a life. my advice. I didn’t say anything about obama, I said in the case of Sarah (as with Edwards), the ego and politics prevailed, and the family suffers. not a good sign for someone who may need to pick up that 3AM phone call.

Posted by: Can'tHaveItAllAtOnce | September 1, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm

Liselle, many of us here on this blog whether you are a liberal, conservative or independent are guilty of sex with no condom or contraceptive out of wedlock. Some of us here had sex in high school. I know many of us will not admit our guilt because it is too personal.

Posted by: FortuneFavorsTheBrave | September 1, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm

J Jeffrey, his words don’t matter much if he does not denounce dailykos and moveon.org…

Posted by: FortuneFavorsTheBrave | September 1, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm

Why is Obama and the Democrats so GUTLESS? Anything negative that comes up about the Republicans, Obama says layoff, Kerry did the same thing, and so did Dukakis, when he caught Biden screwing up!. And everyone of them LOST! You are never going to win, playing defense, and playing on the other person’s field! Isn’t Obama tired of playing Defense, and losing points?

Posted by: James Laughead | September 1, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm

Obama is right just because her daughter is pregnent doesn’t meen they should make a big deal out of it they should just stick with the polls and govt. stuff

Posted by: Brittany | September 1, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm

If you don’t want this scurtiny don’t run to represent everyone. It is private except for public officials. You are OPEN to everyone.

Posted by: tukss | September 1, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm

I can’t think of much I like about Barrack Obama. Nothing really. I disagree with almost everything he supports. He’s so far to the left that he makes Hillary Clinton look like president of the NRA! Still, I have to give credit where credit is due. He is demonstrating character and leadership by insisting that Miss Palin’s pregnancy not be used as a political too against her mother. He still isn’t qualified to be President.

Posted by: Oonogil | September 1, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm

I basically thnk the whole gettin bak at each other and makin one another look bad is just plain stupid!! We want a president who can stay focused on the problems were havin right now and not on the problems that are goin on with there components people y doesn’t everyone just try to mind there own buisness: saying that in the nicest way possible

Posted by: Brittany | September 1, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm

If Obama continues to step in and defend McCain’s military “heroism” or Palin’s right to privacy once more time, I am suspending my donations to his campaign. Frankly, he does more image work for the Repubs these days than he does for his own party. In the end, he’s runs the very real risk of taking that High Road right over the heads of low information voters all the way to a big loss. This is why Repubs always win. They take advantage of every political opportunity, while Dems muzzle themselves and go into slumped-shoulder apology mode for absolutely everything.

Posted by: Larry in Dallas | September 1, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm

Brittany,
Obama’s words don’t mean much unless he denounce the base of his party, the daily kos and moveon.org who are spreading all sort of rumors.
————————————
Obama is right just because her daughter is pregnent doesn’t meen they should make a big deal out of it they should just stick with the polls and govt. stuff
Posted by: Brittany

Posted by: FortuneFavorsTheBrave | September 1, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm

what about country first? and he puts a successionist on the ticket. shame on you john mcshame. WWLD (what would lincoln do?)

Posted by: sk8boardgrind | September 1, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm

sarah palin appeared out of a cloud today preaching abstinence only education and telling us how bad sex is. then she goes home to her teen daughter who is pregnant. ahhh republican hypocracy. if she knew her daughter was having sex and allowed this to go on while even once telling the public that they should abstain… thats hypocracy. deal with it republicans. everyday something new comes out about palin… what will be next? sit back and just let the fun begin.

Posted by: sk8boardgrind | September 1, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm

U know what this whole conversation is pointless and i think if people are gona have somethin to say they should express it on election day i for one am deffently voting for obama and anyone who is smart will do the same :-P

Posted by: Brittany | September 1, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm

OKay, smart one. You made a choice but it does not make you smarter.
————————————-
U know what this whole conversation is pointless and i think if people are gona have somethin to say they should express it on election day i for one am deffently voting for obama and anyone who is smart will do the same :-P
Posted by: Brittany

Posted by: FortuneFavorsTheBrave | September 1, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm

What a wonderful mother Sarah Palin is! If she has had five kids and has a 17 year old daughter who’s pregnant, I just know she’s got what it takes to lead our nation! She could get real smart people to advise her on that foreign policy and complicated stuff. Bless her!

Posted by: Mike Collin | September 1, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm

what a wonderful hypocrite sarah palin is. she tells us we should abstain but she thinks its okay for her little angel to do whatever she wants. she supported an anti-semite (pat buchannon) she supported the bridge to nowhere before she was against it. she helped get her ex brotherinlaw fired in an abuse to power. she believes in creationism (maybe thats why her daughter is pregnant! the kid thought that her mother wanted her to create a baby… roflol)

Posted by: sk8boardgrind | September 1, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm

She should have been vetted! The McCain camp is solely responsible for these damages because they FAILED this BASIC requirement. This underscores a last minute pick. I’m still going with no cognizant long-standing Republican wanted to go down the drain with McCain. He needed someone (anyone) to accept his VP offer. She is ambitious and accepted the FASTRACK. It is very very sad for a family to be involved like this, but it all gets back to McCain and competency. The press can lay off the pregnacy but Palin and her Flat Earth Society policy of abstinece education (no contraception) is highly revelant in this case.

Posted by: Libratine | September 1, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm

Yes. Her family is off limits. However, Sarah Palin’s politics are not. Her politics include abstinence only sex-education, which have been directly proven ineffective in her household. Barack Obama has shown himself today to be a much classier politician than anyone on the Republican side. If Sarah wants to walk that path, she needs to come out against abstinence only sex-ed NOW! Anything less than that simply shows her as hypocritical.
And for all you right-wingers: If this were Obama’s daughter, you *KNOW* the likes of Rush Limbaugh, Bill O’reilly, and the entire RNC would be raking Obama over the coals for “letting his daughter get into this”.
Palin’s daughter and family needs to be left out, but Palin’s view on reality needs to be checked thoroughly.

Posted by: Jeff | September 1, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm

I got to go. As I said, Palin’s daughter is none of your business…

Posted by: FortuneFavorsTheBrave | September 1, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm

There is something fishy with Sarah. I am an RN. When a woman’s water breaks, she goes directly to the hospital and does not give a 30 minute speech then take a 9,000 mi ride on an airplane especially when there is a premature ( 7 mo ) labor. Either this really is not her baby or she is a fool. Just what we need another close to the Whitehouse. Even so, galavanting around and putting her family last is not what I think of as family values. Sorry Barack, I love you but the rest of us can keep this thing going.

Posted by: Susiej | September 1, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm

I didn’t know that Daily Kos posters ever left their insane asylum to wander over to post at ABC. But apparently they do.

Posted by: Peach | September 1, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm

Me being an atheist,This holier than thou babble really makes me want to take a nap. Pajama People…..Load they make you sleepy with the things they might say….Frank Zappa.

Posted by: broomhead | September 1, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm

This one Republican that will be writing in Mitt Romney on my ballot along with millions of other Republicans.

Posted by: Orlando B. | September 1, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm

While this is the kind of thing that happens in many families – based on her other social stances one has to assume Polin’s is a poster child to why ‘abstinece only’ education is a total failure.

Posted by: freedomfighter1975 | September 1, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm

And this is why I will vote for him, well one of the reasons! Such a honest respectable man of God! Humblness! Can you say any other politician would have handled this so nicely, or would they have attacked the canidate and used this against them! GO OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And god bless him and all the canidates and theyre families! Be blessed!

Posted by: Celeste | September 1, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm

I fully support Obama and whoever that is using my profile name to smear Obama, I have a report into ABC on this!

Posted by: Scott NH | September 2, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am

This election will be a gauge of the sane and insane, A kinda census of who would really vote for a senile old man and a woman that has not clue to the harm she doing to her family and especially her daughter. Holding her up for the public to ridicule. You are a special kind of stupid if you think this woman should be a heart beat from the Presidency.

Posted by: LMoor | September 2, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am

I agree 100% with Sen Obama and all the Republicans who are now saying that this is none of our business, it is a family matter. However I must point out that Terry Schiavo was also a family matter and none of the Republicans’ or religious right’s business. I must also point out that if you are pregnant due to rape or incest and are considering an abortion, Governor Palin does not believe that should be a family decision. She believes that decision should be made by the state and you should be forced to have that child.

Posted by: Ron | September 2, 2008, 12:24 am 12:24 am

I think Obama is going to be the next president. Palin better get her views straight and beliefs. She should of known it would get out, the family is in the public eye. Obama reacted like a true gentlemen as he is one. I do not think McCain investigated Palin to well. To me she is a phony. McCain’s wife is a snob. Obama and his wife Michelle are gracious and they are very classy, honest and most important true people, this is my opinion.

Posted by: Linda | September 2, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am

Obama’s comment was only made because he REALLY doesn’t want Palin’s daughter to be talked about because then it opens the door to his family. His mom married a bigamist Muslim when she was 3 months preg. Obama has way way more baggage than Palin.
We all know that Obama’s daughter would have already had an abortion and we would have never known about it.
And let’s talk about another well known Democrat who ran for president. Edwards. He ran for president knowing he had a love child with Reille Hunter.
Let’s focus on the issues of the candidates and what they stand for instead of taking the attention off of Obama’s inexperience and racist and terrorist friends.

Posted by: S Adams | September 2, 2008, 12:40 am 12:40 am

The pregnancy doesn’t matter. What does matter is the amount this will be a major distraction from McCain’s message, which can’t be good for the GOP no matter how the public views Palin – all of which speaks to the vetting process. It’s obvious this VP selection was made rashly and in haste – which reveals the rash and poor judgment of McCain. I certainly won’t vote for a man (or woman for that matter) whose judgment is this impulsive.

Posted by: Flotsam | September 2, 2008, 12:49 am 12:49 am

As a foreigner living in a foreign land – not USA – I can say that the world outside of America looks forward to the day Obama takes office — the world will become a safer, saner place with the Democrats in the Whitehouse under Obama’s guiding light. As for McCain and Palin, as Bill Clinton said recently, they are on the wrong side of history. Good thing, too.

Posted by: stuart rankin | September 2, 2008, 12:54 am 12:54 am

Palin and McCain, Winners are they not

Posted by: LMoor | September 2, 2008, 12:58 am 12:58 am

I DO NOT TRUST OBAMA even when he speaks in support of Palin …
He is playing GOOD COP, BAD COP
He comes out in support of Palin like Mr. Good Cop and then have his surrogates and CNN bash Palin for him …
Obama is just letting the MEDIA AND CNN DO THE DIRTY WORK FOR HIM …
Obama loves to see Palin go down and you who think he is being good need to think twice.
Obama covets the Presidency too much to not be savory this news on Palin …
How gullable can Americans get …
Obama has CNN wrapped around his finger … so CNN is doing his dirty work for him.

Posted by: YaRight | September 2, 2008, 1:03 am 1:03 am

>>>>>YaRight<<<<<
BY GOSH, YOU'VE GOT IT!
;-)

Posted by: america*centric | September 2, 2008, 1:06 am 1:06 am

On one hand I have some empathy for Palin’s family and their need for privacy, but on the other, things continue not to add up. Andrew Sullivan of the Atlantic provides a link to the Mat-Su hospital, where Trig was supposedly born on April 18th. His birth isn’t listed on the website. Producing a birth certificate is less intrusive than making a public announcement for their daughter’s pregnancy, and it would dispel some reasonable doubts.

Posted by: kat | September 2, 2008, 1:11 am 1:11 am

As an Obama supporter, I was dismayed when Sarah Palin was announced as McCain’s VP pick. It seemed like the perfect answer to the democatic ticket. As events have unfolded, I now think it was a big mistake. I raised two daughters as a single father. Things went as well as they could have for me, but it was still very hard. With the drama going on now in the family, what are they going to do if she’s elected? Would her husband take on some more responsibility? Would he quit his job to do it? I can’t believe she wouldn’t be distracted by what’s going on. It seems to me that she’s putting her career before her family. I think a lot of voters might feel that way, too. Also, the ethics investigation has yet to play out. She looks like a vindictive person, not a good quality for a politician.

Posted by: Ernie Mercer | September 2, 2008, 1:17 am 1:17 am

I previously made a post on Andrew Sullivan’s 8-31 link to Mat-Su Hospital where Trig was allegedly born. There were two births listed for his date of birth, neither his. The post was taken down rapidly, within minutes, from several hundreds of postings. I suspected that would happen. I will no longer post. I find the deletion or censorship process disconcerting, to put it mildly.

Posted by: kat | September 2, 2008, 1:20 am 1:20 am

Sen. Obama,
Here’s something we SHOULD be talking about, before we give you the keys to the White House. I wonder if you are presidential enough to have it freely and honestly reviewed:
* You and your people are trying to intimidate and shut down examination of your relationship with unrepentant American-bomber William Ayers. Why? Why did you lie about the nature of your relationship in the Spring? Is it just the relationship with him you are hiding or does it go deeper, like his family ties to the whole Chicago machine, or to ACORN and the sleaziest of bullies, or more?
Are these lies covering up a situation worse than your 20-year support for Rev. Wright’s spew?
How sleazy does this get?
We really need this conversation with the man who may be President.
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Posted by: Carol | September 2, 2008, 1:21 am 1:21 am

Posts seem to be disappearing, then appearing again!! Goodnight. I think I’d like to sleep through it all. Or maybe I’m really confused, and instead, need to waken from this bad election dream, a sentiment that the McCain camp may be experiencing.

Posted by: kat | September 2, 2008, 1:33 am 1:33 am

Obama is dead on about this. Family members were long off-limits to press scrutiny and it raised American political reporting to its highest level ever.
Those days are rapidly disappearing, lost in the daily spew of Limbaugh, Hannity and their less-talented but no less corrupt ilk. Journalism is being pushed aside by “talking points” from the left and right.
Jake, keep up the good work and don’t let the nattering punditocracy move you in any way. You’re just fine the way you are.

Posted by: gtrumpnc | September 2, 2008, 1:35 am 1:35 am

Folks: Even if Howdy Doody and Mr. Bluster get elected this time around the White House cannot possibly ever be as pathetic as it is now and has been for the last 8 years..We have a VP with more health problems than the VA’s including a dirty public mouth and itchy trigger finger attributes; We have not had a President unless you consider Alfred E. Newman, Jr. and his eight years of ridiculous illegal antics! “Mad Magazine” should be proud! The M-A-I-N thing now is to get out and exercise your RIGHT TO VOTE!!rayo

Posted by: rayobilly | September 2, 2008, 1:37 am 1:37 am

I just hope that Palin is not forcing those two young people to have the baby and to get married for their political aspirations.
Unfortunately, I think that is exactly what is happening. It is sad!

Posted by: lou | September 2, 2008, 1:37 am 1:37 am

Due to much arrogance and pride McCain has dug himself a big hole by his latest display of faulty judgment choice Palin. Therefore, we should respect Obama’s stand to lay-off the lady Palin’s family since McCain has just handed Obama the presidency gratis by this incredibly dumb move.

Posted by: c gingrich | September 2, 2008, 1:42 am 1:42 am

I think that everyone should as hard as they can, IGNORE Sarah Palin’s very interesting family drama and pay attention to the real problem with her being selected as McCain’s running mate.
I live in a housing project in the BRONX that has a population about the size of Wasilla, Alaska! Our tenant association president is sort of our MAYOR and a pretty responsible lady, but I don’t think our next step should be to elect her GOVERNOR of NEW YORK!
I just looked up the population of Alaska (626,932) and the population of the Bronx (1,364,566). For all the talk about her being the GOVERNOR of a STATE, from my perspective, it’s like someone who was in charge of HALF of the BRONX being declared to be qualified to be the “Leader of the Free World”. If you believe that being the govornor of a state with a population smaller than 20 US cities, then maybe my Tenant Association President should throw her hat into the ring and declare that SHE is ready to LEAD on DAY ONE. But we all know that just aint so. My TA president knows it, Sarah Palin should know it and so should all of us.

Posted by: downtowncyber | September 2, 2008, 1:50 am 1:50 am

The pregnancy of Sarah Palin’s unwed daughter is not off-limits in discussions of Governor Palin’s fitness to become the Vice President of the United States.
Why? Because your pregnancy is not off-limits to Sarah Palin, even if you are the victim of rape or incest.

Posted by: Mike Licht | September 2, 2008, 2:27 am 2:27 am

This response by Mr. Obama is probably the event of the highest caliber in American politics since World War II. Not only does he avoid petty politics he clearly “machine guns” it in two sentences. Who could you pick in American politics ….maybe EVER who would respond that way!
Mr. Obama, what an overwhelming blast of clean air in a world flooded with dirty politics- Thank YOU!

Posted by: rrgold55 | September 2, 2008, 2:37 am 2:37 am

You know, Obama comes out and does the right thing, and half you idiots spout off these baseless rumors about Obama.
Its pathetic. Do you people believe everything you read on the internet?
Rumors about Obama and about Palin ARE NOT NEWS. Palin’s family is off limits. Obama’s family is off limits. Grow up people.

Posted by: Matt | September 2, 2008, 2:54 am 2:54 am

Mr Obama is right ….to many times important things are missed and non relavent things are noticed …we should not judge a canadate on actions of her children … what is important is what she plans to do for the economy and about the issues in the middle east …and the soaring cost of living

Posted by: Charles | September 2, 2008, 3:13 am 3:13 am

To the extent that her daughter’s immoral acts are a reflection of her mother’s politics, and an antithesis to her religious standards, they are relevant. The girl is not the issue it is the failings and hypocrisies of her mother’s political and religious narrowness that are.
Obama is right to warn his campaign people off the topic. It has wings enough of its own.
Palin and her husband need to spend a lot more time with their children. Especially, for Palin proving that, just mouthing religious platitudes is not the same as being a true model of Christian virtues.
Anyway she will be caring for a mentally handicapped infant, probably for the rest of her and her husband’s lives, and an infant grandchild, and a daughter and son-in-law who haven’t grown up yet.
It is obvious enough from these events and the brouhaha of her sister and brother-in-law that this is a very dysfunctional family, so how can she be a quality leader of other people’s families.

Posted by: Marnie | September 2, 2008, 4:03 am 4:03 am

Republicans preached for decades Family values. Republicans preach that it is the Republican Party who have the HIGH MORALS. They preached that it is the parents responsibility to teach their children morals. Republicans preach that teen pregnancy is the fault of the parents NEGLECT, and they preach that one of the things that bad parenting results in is teen pregnancy. After being pounded for decades about moral issues I cannot believe that Sarah who NEGLECTED her daughter can ever fill the shoes of the president. I want a VP who will not neglect my issues. But all I see is a future of neglect of both me and my country if I vote for John McCain and Sarah.
I am glad that obama took the high road on this one, by refusing to give into the gossip of the teenager’s mistake. Obama is a decent man.
I used to vote Republican. I believe in Family values. That is why I will vote for Obama and Biden who are both happily married men and who are loyal to their wives and children and do not neglect their families. Biden has a history of putting his children first after he was widowed as a young father. Biden did a terrific job raising his sons alone, before meeting his second wife.
I do hope that Sarah finds what is missing in her relationship with her daughter so her daughter does not do a repeat. Many young girls who made the mistake once due to neglect, will most likely do it again unless the problem in the family is resolved.

Posted by: whatfamily value | September 2, 2008, 4:07 am 4:07 am

Barack Obama says “back off”.
I agree under normal circumstances. But this is American where the GOP constantly come around with their hypocritical Christian values talk.
This story would have no play if McCain and Palin were not claming to represent some high standard of Christian morality.
are they telling the truth or are they lying about who they are, and how there families are good for our country.
I know McCain has a disfuntional family. Now the world is getting some light on how Hypocritical Palin is.
How can you advise people on problems, when you don’t even have your own back yard living correctly?
At least Barack Obama did not cheat on his wife like McCain did.
May now that the “Republicans have taken off there Republican hats” they can look at there own lives and fix them first before they think they are able to lead this country.
Keep the drunks out of the White House.
NO MORE BUSH

Posted by: vicbennett | September 2, 2008, 4:16 am 4:16 am

It seems that one of the values Obama’s leadership is supporting is respect, civil disagreement and not stooping to the base tactics of one’s political “enemy.” McCain, too,seems to be trying to raise the level of discourse, after Obama’s speech he took time out to place an ad congratulating Obama on the speech, anniversary on which it was given and the incredible achievement of OUR country nominating a American who is also a person of color. Maybe we as a national are ready to turn a corner and return to a political debate that is about issues not about the vulberabilities of humanity all of us share. Let’s rise to the challenge of “better selves.”

Posted by: LB | September 2, 2008, 6:43 am 6:43 am

McCain is not fit to become the next president of the United States of America. He has poor judgment. Palin should have never be nominated. This shows no leadership skills in man that talk so much about family values and where he wants to take this country.

Posted by: sam roberts | September 2, 2008, 6:46 am 6:46 am

ron paul.

Posted by: dsync | September 2, 2008, 7:03 am 7:03 am

Obama’s “backoff” is the only reply he can give. If he said anything bad about pregnant teen, HE HIMSELF WOULD TRASH HIS OWN MOTHER.
Anyway, the media should be ASHAMED of themselves. First, they tried to whip up this story into some controvery. When that failed, the media – like Stephanopolus & Dowd – tried to spin this pregnancy story into a measure of McCain’s investigation of Sarah.
Just listen to Charlie Gibson on ABC Evening News 9/1/08: “Tonight we have TWO STORMS. One in Louisiana and the other in Alaska.”
What kind of crap this is? The storm in Louisian is a tragic event that displaced thousands of people. How can it be compare to the pregnancy story of Sarah’s teen daughter.
And sadly, not only ABC did this kind of sensational crap. CBS, CNN, NBC. FOX and many others did the same thing.
SHAME ON ALL OF YOU, SENSATIONAL JOURNALISTS.

Posted by: ablanche08 | September 2, 2008, 7:19 am 7:19 am

I understand all the rage and sure it is another great example for Republican hypocrisy.
But Barak is right. You don’t hurt McCain or his campaign, nor Doe-eyed Dubya Palin but the Kids. And that is utterly wrong.
IT’S THE FAULT OF MCCAIN’S POOR JUDGMENT – NOT THE KIDS SO LEAVE THEM ALONE!

Posted by: Johnny77 | September 2, 2008, 7:29 am 7:29 am

I request Obama’s opinion that the pregnancy of Palin’s daughter should not be a political issue, but I think he’s wrong. The family values and believes expressed and practiced by Palin are at issue in connection with her views on sex education in schools, family planning, marriage sanctity etc. etc. Also in question is a) John McCain’s judgement in picking a candidate such as Palin without fully contemplating the consequences of these
issues and b) HIS experience in not fully vetting his VP pick. These are very much political issues. Lastly,please explain to me why Palin’s scandal is off-limits but John Edwards’ family tragedy is not?

Posted by: Franc | September 2, 2008, 7:56 am 7:56 am

My present concern goes in the direction that the apparent lack of knowledge about Mrs Palin’s record may fear what other revelations lie in wait….

Posted by: umoh. amos (from Nigeria) | September 2, 2008, 8:06 am 8:06 am

i agree to leave alone a candidates family. but you all know that if this was obama,s daughter teh republican,s would be tearing him apart..but the republicans always paly dirty and love to hurt people. its what they do.

Posted by: tom | September 2, 2008, 8:09 am 8:09 am

I can’t believe the left want to condem a teenager for her getting pregant. there the last one to say anything about any one. the left has no morals. they believe everything is find. just look at calif. and mass. no matter who the party is you shouldn’t talk bad about a kid. tha’s just not right. that’s the family job to deal with it. besides every family in america has there on soap oprea.

Posted by: james | September 2, 2008, 8:14 am 8:14 am

This young lady is 17….not a kid. A minor, but not a kid. Though it was not the most responsible thing to do……It is her right…..And, it doesn’t make her a slut just because she got pregnant. Also, her personal life has NOTHING to do with her moms political career.
Thanks

Posted by: Chris | September 2, 2008, 8:32 am 8:32 am

I think that people need to lay off the poor girl… I mean she is by far not the only teen pregnant these days. It’s just unfortunate that her life is the public eye. I just want to praise her for having the decency to keep the child. I was a teen mom and it’s not easy. So back off…

Posted by: Jenna | September 2, 2008, 8:46 am 8:46 am

Hopefully this incident will bring us to a place of new politics. Where was the outrage about Willie Horton (remember that?). The republicans have really messed up! The issue should be 1. You quandered a projected surpuls and now leave a deficit. 2. You have deminished our moral standing in the world by engaging in tortue. 3. You led us into a war that was ill advised. Stick to the issues. John McCain you ought to be ashamed, for not vetting this well meaning person you did this for political reasons and now her life is under a micro-scope. Its better than talking about your ties to Bush

Posted by: Rory | September 2, 2008, 9:17 am 9:17 am

Of course he says ‘back off’, it’s the right thing to do as a candidate. As non-candidates not on the payroll, we the people have a right to discuss this, since it speaks to the so-called family values and personal/moral positions of those involved. It also speaks to the judgement of Mccain. If he knew about this before he selected her, and believed it would not be a big deal, then he is seriously out of touch with Americans. If he did NOT know about it beforehand, then he was either misled or lied to by omission, by Governor Palin. Neither scenario bodes well for the Mccain/Palin ticket…..

Posted by: SearamblerOne | September 2, 2008, 9:49 am 9:49 am

I think the request to “back off” the pregnancy in terms of the family and its PRIVATE decisions is correct.
HOWEVER, for me the larger issue is that McCain – Palin would FORCE THEIR decision on ALL families and ALL women thereby denying everyone else THEIR PRIVACY.
This is something Senator Obama should NOT BE SILENT ABOUT nor should he ask his supporters to do so.

Posted by: Patricia | September 2, 2008, 9:49 am 9:49 am

I wonder which part of abstinence lessons
her daughter didn’t understand???
Now what makes her parents sooooooo sure that she wants to get married NOW since she didn’t want to respect abstinence recommandations…Can you believe that she actually …had SEX!!!!!!!!!!!!! with no protection!!!!!!!!!!!!!???!!!!!!!OMGGGGGG!!!!!!
BWAHA…..HHA….HAHAHA……..
AH republicans, always giving lessons
Party of Family values blablablabla
And do they plan to divorce??????
How silly. I don’t care what family values people follow, conservative or liberal on sex, parent wants their child to be pregnant at a young age. Now whether or not the child follows abstinence or did not follow up on using the patch or condom, thats another matter. Many teenagers are known to take risk. Many of us who are adults now have taken those risks.

Posted by: eveii | September 2, 2008, 9:58 am 9:58 am

excuse me, I meant “no parent”

Posted by: evii | September 2, 2008, 10:00 am 10:00 am

What is wrong with everyone today? Why is everyone so judgemental? It’s sad how everyone claims to be Christian, yet they’re all throwing stones when the same thing is happening in their own back yard. First, this is NOT a political issue and should NOT be discussed in the race for president. Most teenagers, and some younger, are having sex, ehether you want to accept it or not. Just because your child didn’t get pregnant, doesn’t mean they’re not sexually active. You should be praising this girl for having the guts to keep her child, knowing the difficult road ahead. And to the person who compared this teenage pregnacy to Monica and Bill, PLEASE, there is not comparison. SHE is NOT the president nor did it occur in the White House while on the phone conducting business! She is your average teenage girl, period! Barack is right, this is a family matter, just like it is to all other families in this country. Children are off limits. You can teach a child until you’re blue in the face, but they’re ulitmately going to make their own decisions. You also should be praising Sarah for supporting her child instead of throwing her out in the street like some parents do. Keep the race about policical issues, not about family issues that happen to both democrat and republican families alike. Her pregancy is NOT a disgrace, all you people slamming her is the disgrace!

Posted by: Gina | September 2, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am

Whether you are the Governor of Alaska, a working mom, a stay at home mom, this has nothing to do with your teenager becoming pregnant. As a parent, you can talk safe sex until you are blue in the face. Teenagers are given more sex education in schools in the past 20 years then ever before, and they still do what they want to do. Their brains do not work as we adults would like them to. They are teenagers and are caught up in the moment. Blaming a parent is not the issue. So please leave the Governor in peace about this issue. I respect her “respect for life.” And, I sincerely hope she does not withdraw from this race. McCain has my vote for the decision he made in choosing this very smart ethical woman. I for one am proud of her. For a change we have heard from someone who shows her beliefs in her actions instead of “words.” I am a parent of 4 daughters, 2 sons9 granddaughters, 6 grandsons. We as a family have preached safe sex, abstinence and religious morals. They listen they, agree, and then they do as they please.
We are not here to judge others!!!

Posted by: Claire Delaney | September 2, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am

“Whether you are the Governor of Alaska, a working mom, a stay at home mom, this has nothing to do with your teenager becoming pregnant. As a parent, you can talk safe sex until you are blue in the face. Teenagers are given more sex education in schools in the past 20 years then ever before, and they still do what they want to do.”
The issue you seem to ignore is Ms. Palin believes that sex ed should be ‘abstinence only’. Mom did not talk safe sex, she talked no sex. She did not give her daughter the info needed to help prevent pregnancy, she merely said ‘don’t have sex’. She apparently believes this is enough info to stop her daughter from having sex. Well, it wasn’t, and this is the result. This woman BELIEVES that abstinence-only sex ed is the right course for, not only her daughter, but ALL teens. As Governor she is in a position to roll back any and all advances in her state regarding the practice and education of safe sex. As a Vice President she could take her cause to the national level. I say this is irresponsible, and incredibly narrow minded.

Posted by: SearamblerOne | September 2, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am

This response by Obama has made me view him with more Respect, This is the first time in a while he has shown the the promise of change his campaign is based on, this shows he cares about family and feels certain things should be off limits. It is this reason I will no longer talk about his wife and her remarks about America. If he is willing to leave this alone we, as Republicans should reach out and extend the same goodwill and courtesy. Good for You Obama, For the first time in this Presidential election period I am truly proud of you. This is the kind of gesture that American needs and It does not matter who it comes from Republican or Democrat admit certain personal issues are off limits.

Posted by: batesba74 | September 2, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am

What the Palin pregnancy issue does for me is shore up the fact that I am voting for a real person who is facing real American issues. She is doing it fearlessly and with pride of her child. She is supporting her child unconditionally. I know all of you democrats, you so-called Americans can’t possibly understand a teenage girl getting pregnant in today’s society – you are all such wonderful role models yourselves. I am even prouder to support Palin’s bid for the VP, and prouder still that John McCain had the guts to add her to his ticket with the knowledge of the young girl’s pregnancy. It doesn’t make him senile, or present him as being senile…far from it…it shows that in addition to being a maverick, that he is also human, and understands human frailty. I just want to offer kudos to Senator Obama for his statement that Palin’s family should not be the subject of any story in any paper, and that privacy should be given to the children of any candidate. Thank you for that.

Posted by: Dorothy | September 2, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am

Respect and Integrity are a thing of the past. The Left is ruining this country.

Posted by: RealDemocrat | September 2, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am

Those without sin cast the first stone.
Obama is correct the family is off limits, because this woman (Palin) has enough baggage coming to the VP position aside from her family issues. Actually I feel for her. You talk about inexperience, she could not understand she is being used as a token, as women have been so many times. We All must remember this woman will become Commander in Chief, if anything should happen to McCain. I am sure the terriorist foreign and domestic is just waiting for this to happen.
This proves that John McCain is out of touch, lacks concern for the American people and will do anything to win the election. What other spontaneous decisions will he make once he is in the White House? Many of his decisions maybe made out of spite or impulse. John McCain, nor Sarah Palin can be trusted. This issue about the girl should have come out on Friday, when he made his pick. Now it seems that he knew nothing about this woman. Americans being duped again by these GOOD OLD BOYS!

Posted by: L. Glover | September 2, 2008, 11:16 am 11:16 am

Shut up Obama…As much as these republican nuts attacked your wife why are you giving them credit. They deserve exactly what they get. The perfect world is coming crashing down. This is exciting for two days the media was telling us about this great PTA mom. While she was at the PTA meetings I guess the oldest daughter was at home doing something else. What is even funnier than this is how republicans are spinning this to make it sound like it is O.K. to be pregnant at 17 as long as you do not have an abortion, what a crazy world they are living in.

Posted by: Sarah | September 2, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am

For those of you saying McCain should have laid off Michelle Obama, I have one thing to say – Michelle Obama is out on the campaign trail promoting and campaigning for her husband. The same way Palin’s husband should be open to criticism of his 20 year old DUI…Michelle can be criticized for the racist views which she cronicled in her thesis. CHILDREN ARE NOT THE SAME AS ADULTS. Bristol Palin is not on the campaign trail stumping for her mother, and I’m sure that she is just an average, scared, teenage girl, who in addition to having to tell her parents that she was preganant, also has to announce it to a nation and answer to them as well. Once more, I appreciate Obama’s stance on not involving the children of candidates in discussions about performance, experience, and leadership.

Posted by: Dorothy | September 2, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am

Well, it only shows that Obama is going to be a classy leader characterised with good and sound judgement. McCain should forget it.

Posted by: Oseghale Dave | September 2, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am

I don’t care what no one says, Mitt Romney should have been VP. Now once again John McCain has sold us Republican voters out for a horrible pick for VP. THIS YEAR IS ABOUT THE ECONEMY STUPID! John I’m a Republican and you sir are no Republican you are a traitor to my party and deserve to lose. Many Republicans have decided they will not allow McCain to hijack our party and sell us out for a few trashy socialist women Hillary Clinton Votes. We are the party of values and reason and you have threatened to destroy our party by picking Palin who is a unknown and has accomplished nothing that would sugest she was a good pick for VP. Palin’s family morals and family values are in question and if we allow this woman to stay on this ticket then you have lost this race already because we will not vote for you. Either you put Mitt Romney on this ticket or we will allow the Democrats to take the White House. Choose wisely my friend! Romney/2012

Posted by: Orlando B. Fremont Ohio | September 2, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am

The story behind Palin’s ex brother in law – state trooper being fired is, he is a wife and children beater using his police taser. His wife is Palin’s sister. Her ex brother in law also threatened her father’s life. If Palin was involved in getting him fired, then it is a human interest story especially for women nationwide as there is very little in the system to protect them from domestic violence.

Posted by: francine223 | September 2, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am

I agree with Obama it is time to ignore these crazy republicans and focus on the country. By the end of the week we will hear so much about this women they are trying to compare to Hillary Clinton. This is too funny. I am having a ball with this. Now look at them she is woman, leave her alone. What was Michelle Obama? I guess a deserved what she received. Now the tables are turning. I still say if this was one of Obama’s kids the country would be exploring right now. Putting down Michelle Obama and her kid could not come out the door because whites with remain her of typical black people in America, as if this could not happen to anyone.

Posted by: Sarah | September 2, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm

I’ve read most of the comments and either agreed or disagreed. There is one that I must address – the comment that reads “if it were Obama’s daughter she would have already had an abortion”. Now how the hell would you know that. Nevermind Obama’s racist friends (as you upt it) for a moment – - was that not intended to be a racist remark?

Posted by: CB | September 2, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm

This election has become a soap opera. All parties and most people are guilty of this wretched monthly edition of the Digest, but I blame the media the most. They have stooped to the lowest common denominator and attracted as many reality-tv viewers in order to raise ratings. Shame on you, ABC News!

Posted by: anebt | September 2, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm

To CB: I am guessing that comment had to do more with Obama supporting abortion rights and saying he would not want one of his daughters “punished”(meaning by having a baby, although it could be put up for adoption) if she made a mistake. It has nothing to do with race it is a reflection on his own words. Teenage pregnancy=punishment to Obama. What about the life long consequences of emotional upheaval by killing your baby, that is punishment.

Posted by: MZ | September 2, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm

Obama’s right… families should be off limits. We get so caught up in throwing dirt during the elections all of the major issues of this country are forgotten. We need a change! My concern is that if something happens to McCain and Palin becomes the President will she be able to handle that type of responsibility having a small child, and a grand- baby on the way? As a mother I put my child before anything in this world. So what would Palin do?

Posted by: Focused | September 2, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm

Obama is MORALLY correct in saying to back off; however, the HYPOCRISY of this woman is immense, and the CHARACTER of this VP candidate SHOULD be on target. She is USING her daughter by PUSHING her into a young marriage, and trying to show the world how WONDERFUL she is by having a daughter who is choosing to have the baby instead of abort; however, the actual message being given is LOOK HOW ABSTINENCE education is better than sex education. And, this VP IS DOING women’s lib while talking against it. How hypocritical! Choosing her one DAY before he knows if she’s vetted is showing GREAT stupidity in McCain, and bad judgment.

Posted by: johnnyappleseed61 | September 2, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm

James and others, the left (including me) does NOT want to talk about or condemn a child. It’s the MOM. And not just the mom, but McCain. You may not know this, but a VERY BIG reason McCain chose her was to GET THE HILLARY VOTERS on his side He figured if he chose a woman, any woman, that would show he’s for women’s right. Well, duh. I’ve got news for McCain- HILLARY is nothing like the woman you picked for VP, so why would you expect women to vote for you because you have a token woman on the ticket?

Posted by: johnnyappleseed61 | September 2, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm

I find it disgusting that this poor girl is having her name thrown all over the media. She is seventeen and is facing an extremely hard decision and time in her life. I had my child at nineteen and was looked down upon and judeged by others. I can only imagine how hard it must be to have the whole world looking and judging you. How horrible is it that the media chooses to exploit the situation purely for politics. Wake up people! This is a child that we are involving in our sick political world! Stop being so self-righteous!!!!

Posted by: KN | September 2, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

Bravo Obama. This is perhaps the one outstanding moment of this entire election period. A politician who meant what he said and stood by what he said regardless if the piece of information could be exploited. Ms. Palin needs to learn some very important sentences. “The decisions my daughter makes are her own and are not fodder for the political machine. Whether I approve or disapprove of her descisions are a private matter between the two of us. Now, having said that, let’s talk issues.”

Posted by: Catherine | September 2, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm

re: Obama is correct the family is off limits, because this woman (Palin) has enough baggage coming to the VP position aside from her family issues. Actually I feel for her. You talk about inexperience, she could not understand she is being used as a token, as women have been so many times.
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I totally agree with the first point–families should be off limits. Unless they are putting themselves on the stage by representing their parents views or their own, they should NOT even be discussed. Those who find pleasure in someone else’s misery really need to get a clue. They need to take a look at their own lives
before they start judging and assess whether they have and are living a mistake free life. I doubt it very seriousley if any of them can say so. We all know that the more our parents try to teach us right from wrong, the more we rebel. In most instances, our mistakes have VERY little to do with what our parents taught us; in fact, our mistakes are usually a reflect of our rejecting those vital lessons in life. (This was probably the most respectable thing I have witnessed Obama do thoughout this whole process!) Secondly, anyone who knows anything about politics knows that it is a game about using people and being used. In order to get ahead in the game, you have to be comfortable being used. That’s why very few people do it & why so few are successful at it.

Posted by: Niko_in_Oakland | September 2, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

To Orlando B. Fremont – i personally had another republician that i wanted to win president but that didnt happen..so i have to get over it and know that i am seriously scared of what will happen to america if the democratic delegate gets the white house! sure there may be some things that McCain does or says that i might not agree with but atleast i will be able to sleep at night knowing i am more safe with him in the white house! if you were a REAL republician you would not be trying to “punish” McCain…you would be trying to keep an unworthy delegate away from leadership!
McCain/Palin 08!

Posted by: concernedinGA | September 2, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm

While I totally agree that candidate’s dependent children should be off limits, this situation has forced me to wonder at Mrs. Palin’s priorities. She has a 5 month old Down child, a pregnant 17 year old, and 3 other children who are obviously not her first priority. Her infant, particularly, is going to need a lot of special attention. Is she willing to sacrifice her children for the sake of her ambition? The answer to that question will say a lot about Palin’s character.

Posted by: DaveM | September 2, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm

typical Obama reply, he attacked her at first. Then let his surrogates do the dirty work, and now tries to take the high road.
sickening.

Posted by: paul | September 2, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm

actually paul, if you look at the comments below you’ll see ppl commending Obama, and then taking it upon themselves to raise questions abt the family in the same posts.

Posted by: danielGA | September 2, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm

@ typical Obama reply, he attacked her at first. Then let his surrogates do the dirty work, and now tries to take the high road.
sickening.
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How did he attack first?? Stop making up stuff. That was his first reply about this prego thing and he finally said something in response to them saying she’s more experience when she’s not. The only thing he said when she was announced as VP was “I welcome her to the campaign”. So stop making up stuff you can’t back up with facts.

Posted by: WIL | September 2, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm

plus, aren’t the Repubs the kings of doubletalk. remember how Kerry got swiftboated, how the Clinton family was ridiculed in his first run, and even the way McCain was treated in 2000. unfortunately he’s resigned himself to joining the machine, but as you can see, questioning a candidate’s character and one’s family issues has never been a problem for the Repubs. that doesn’t excuse the current obsession with the Palin family, but it is what it is.

Posted by: danielGA | September 2, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm

I am shocked with McCain’s decision to pick Sarah Palin for VP?!! All I am saying is where in the heck is she going to find the time to be VP of this country? She has her hands full as it is, kids and now a daughter having a baby at 17. All I am saying is she should not be a leader running this country she should be more concerned on being a mother and soon to be grandmother!!

Posted by: casey | September 2, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm

Hold up a minute!! Are you people seriuos?? do not say it should be a private matter when you are in the public eye nothing is private anymore.!

Posted by: casey | September 2, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm

Palin looks more like a celebrity than a political leader…

Posted by: Rani | September 2, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm

Its about time to let Obama lead this country…we should give him a chance…

Posted by: Rani | September 2, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm

Why is everyone so concerned about Palin having time to take care of her kids? Does anyone bring that issue up with Obama and his two young daughters? I’m sure the Obama’s have a support system for their young girls and I’m just as sure the Palin’s have a support system for their family. It’s not an issue but of course the left just has to make a big deal of it. If Obama had the EXACT same situation going on (five children, a daughter pregnant, and a child with a disability) I’m sure he’d still be hailed as a messiah by the media. Is that because he’s a man or because he’s a Democrat? I think it’s much more a male/female issue because if it were Michelle Obama running for President the right would be ‘worrying’(NOT!) about her family the same way the left is so ‘worried’ (NOT!) about the plight of the poor Palin children. Aren’t we all just ‘Holier Than Thou’!
It’s all just politics plain and simple. There is no candidate to vote for, maybe we’ll have better luck in the next four years and a breath of fresh air will step up for the job. As it is now it’s the same old same old.

Posted by: Eileen | September 2, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm

What is relevant is Palin’s support of Abstinance Only as public policy. Hey, Gov! It don’t work!

Posted by: Bruce | September 2, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm

OBAMA is the right man for the job! Plain and simple. Don’t be afraid, Be smart, and support the man who will go down in history as one of our betst Presidents ever!

Posted by: Jo | September 2, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm

Off limits..What if the situation was the father was abusive to children or Palin? Is this a private matter? I think that nothing is off limit if you run for public office. Being in the public light is by choice, Palin put herself first. Her daughter is young and enduring negative criticism from the public. You know she has be in tune with the negative comments. What about her feeling? What effect this is going to have on her? Is marriage the best solution? As a parent, my natural instinct is to protect my children not myself.

Posted by: Concern Parent | September 2, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm

As an Obama supporter, I am extremely proud of my candidate for not being hypocritical and standing by his previous stance that family members (especially children) are off limits. However, I’d like to offer some insight to McCain supporters as to why this issue is so “newsworthy.” Since the 1980s, the religious right has been standing at the pulpit condemning Democrats as immoral because of the National Party’s stance on abortion and more recently gay marriage. The self-righteous behavior of candidates and elected officials drawing their support from this demographic has left them even more open to criticism from progressive members of other religions as well as agnostics and atheists. Like it or not, when you paint yourself as the banner carrier for moral integrity and Christian values, you draw closer scrutiny by the media and pundits when you or someone else around you suddenly descends from grace and becomes human again.

Posted by: progressiveHoosier | September 2, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm

From the comments I here on this site and in the media: You people need to find some thing to do. Why worry about this trivia. We will see her in action, just be patient. Leave the kids alone. There are forces that are definitely paying to smear her. Time will tell who they are. So, sit back and enjoy the show.

Posted by: Mr. T | September 3, 2008, 2:02 am 2:02 am

I have to be skeptical about McCain’s choice of Sarah Palin as his vice president. I just think it’s incredibly hypocritical of McCain to give such an important position to the governor of a state with only 670,000 people, not only that but she has much less political experience than Obama. McCain’s main attacks against Obama were based on his so called lack of experience so how is her situation any different or better?? It would be very nice if he would send a clear message instead of sending mixed signals. Do his own rules or beliefs not apply to him? As for Palin’s family situation….I do think that the general public should have a right to know but on the other hand it should NOT be getting the news coverage that it is. There are much more important things going on in the world right now and I can not believe that this is one of them to some people. Focus on whats important!

Posted by: hmmmmm | September 3, 2008, 2:12 am 2:12 am

Hey people, lets face the fact that if this woman(Palin)have all the qualities that people claimed she has, to run a country is not easy compring to Alaska, where she had even failed to monitor her 17yrs old daughter who got pregnant. How can she run the country as a president when MacCain get sick? or how can she face these tough guys in the Middle east when there is crisis? I think this country must get serious to do the right things instead of making mistakes for correction all the time. All the world is looking at us now and we must create a good picture, but 17 yrs old pregnant picture to outsiders that would be embarrassing.

Posted by: Mike | September 3, 2008, 2:30 am 2:30 am

Don’t like either candidate, but have to respect Obama for his comment. That showed a lot of class.

Posted by: Donald Lee10 | September 3, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm

You lefty liberals kill me. Whats so great about Obama anyway… i rather the possible #2 candidate be less experienced than the #1 candidate. Obama would’ve been better off if he picked Oprah as his running mate. He has no chance. Liberals are ruthless and classless when it comes to rioting and blogging about the opponent. you look like a bunch of crazy people. Go save the planet or something… and the issue of her dsughter bing pregnant. Palin is Pro Life… so at least her daughter didnt have an abortion. I think that says a lot of how Palin has raised her children to take responsibility for their actions.

Posted by: obama sucks | September 4, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm

Palin’s own statement about Bristol’s pregnancy has the word “choice” in it. Apparently it’s okay for her own daughter to have a “choice” but she’d like to make abortion illegal even for cases of rape and incest.
The GOP is done. You knuckleheads have screwed-up this great country enough and it’s time to step aside. Or maybe you should put your money where your mouth is and head off to Iraq.

Posted by: jon | September 4, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm

I can not believe the number of you people that support Obama! Come on people, Stop listing to the media and go learn about Obama on your own! You WILL find that Sara Palin is Way MORE experienced then Obama!! In fact that has been proven! The only thing Obama wants to do is Raise our Taxes! and as for Obama’s so called “Change” well that is all we are going to have in our pockets if he becomes president! I for one will NOT vote for a man who’s wife was only proud of her country for the “FIRST” time or a man that doesn’t support his own country! Come on, he (I am talking about Obama) would not even say the pledge of allegiance! He doesn’t support our troops and he doesn’t even have a record for doing any thing! I mean all he has done is … OH NOTHING!!!! I do not know why so many so called Americans would vote for Obama when he does NOT support our Country!

Posted by: Daddy's girl 08 | September 5, 2008, 7:12 am 7:12 am

One issue I can’t help thinking about. Everyone is applauding Palin’s decision about having a baby with Down’s Syndrom.
The point here is that she had a choice to have the baby. No one came banging on her door to force her to have her baby. Also this holds true to her daughter. They both had a choice. If it were up to them that choice would not be there. A child having a child makes little sense. What about those seventeen or younger girls who have no family support? Are they less valuable than Palin’s daughter?

Posted by: taylors | September 5, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm

So… a non-black person couldn’t also get shot at a gas station?? Is she for real? OMG.. and this could be our next first lady? hahaha
From the February 11, 2007, edition of CBS’ 60 Minutes:
KROFT: This is a tough question to ask, but a number of years ago, Colin Powell was thinking about running for president, and his wife, Alma, really did not want him to run.
MICHELLE OBAMA: Mm-hmm.
KROFT: She was worried about some crazy person with a gun.
MICHELLE OBAMA: Mm-hmm.
KROFT: Is that something that you think about?
MICHELLE OBAMA: I don’t lose sleep over it, because the realities are that, you know, as a black man, you know, Barack can get shot going to the gas station, you know. So, you know, you can’t — you know, you can’t make decisions based on fear and the possibility of what might happen. We just weren’t raised that way.

Posted by: AMB | September 5, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm

I think Michelle should live in Pakistan or Afghanistan where women have no rights and live in fear for wanting to be treated as equals.. honestly.. this woman should not represent our country as first lady!
Michelle Obama quote
“For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my country,” she told a Milwaukee crowd today, “because it feels like hope is making a comeback.”

Posted by: AMB | September 5, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm

I think it’s very mature of him not to comment on the prenancy issue. He still doesn’t have my vote though. And as far as Palin goes. She’s using the fact that she had a child with disability to get to people. She is using that to get into your head and make you believe that she’s the one for the job. Just be real about it. I don’t care but it’s gonna take more then your child having a disability to get my vote. This is not a pitty game that we are playing here. This is the damn person that is going to be running our damn country. The one that has to clean up this stupid mess that Bush has made. Be smart about your decision people. Seriously!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Angel | September 5, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm

This is especially for: Taylor who posted comments on September 5, 2008 at 2:45:10 A.M.
You are the main reason why people are voting for Obama, and I love every moment of it. I see, I’ll have to break this down into layman’s term. First of all, Mrs. Obama’s message went completely over your head. You didn’t understand the intended first ladies message. “When she commented on being proud of her country for the very first time”, she meant, she was aware that there were people before her who began the long, turbulent, and difficult journey, a journey that was marked by sustained suffering, struggles, perseverance, bravery, achievement and survival, a triumph over adversity for African Americans. Mrs. Obama was fully aware of the complexity of racial disparity, and the experiences she and others had to endure. But now, now in her life time, she is able to see the journey of those before her, had to pay a price, in order for the people to choose a man because of his moral and intrinsic values, his honesty and integrity, and love of unmixed liberty, with the ability to lead. Senator Obama is now in that position, all because of that journey. This is a historical event for all of us, it’s an African American Odyssey which tells a story.
Senator Obama is experiencing uncommon favor, and he always will. And
no, weapon formed against him, his wife, and children or anyone who is connected with him will ever prosper. You can take this to the bank and make a deposit because, This is Real Word.

Posted by: OptimisticO | September 6, 2008, 1:35 am 1:35 am

I find laughable the way mainstream paints everyone, ”out of touch,” but it’s collective self. The ones so upset with John McCain, they actually ”issued” PRESS CREDENTIAL to an code pinker, to disrupt the speech. Shame on you also when you allow welfare to replace minority men as ”fathers” to teens as young as 14, that’s your responsibility. Since the focus has been on Gov Palins teen daughter whose ”accepted” her responsibility, I’m sure Obama&Michelle have found ”quality family time” to raise there family, beyond medias destructive influence?? So from my ”prespective” the media is out of touch on reality, or chooses to be for the sake of electing an man with questionable background as Obama lingering question IS HE AN LEGIT US AMERICAN CITIZEN TO BECOME NEXT ”POSSIBLE” TO OCCUPY WHITE HOUSE?? WHY DOESN’T HE PRODUCE HIS ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE? THANKS TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION AND CHANGE, THATS THE RULE AT GOV’T OFFICES, ARE YOU ACTUALLY YOU??? PLEASE MR.OBAMA PROVE YOUR LEGALLY US RESIDENT, THE REST OF US HAVE TOO!

Posted by: dufusdems14 | September 7, 2008, 6:10 am 6:10 am

I find laughable the way mainstream paints everyone, ”out of touch,” but it’s collective self. The ones so upset with John McCain, they actually ”issued” PRESS CREDENTIAL to an code pinker, to disrupt the speech. Shame on you also when you allow welfare to replace minority men as ”fathers” to teens as young as 14, that’s your responsibility. Since the focus has been on Gov Palins teen daughter whose ”accepted” her responsibility, I’m sure Obama&Michelle have found ”quality family time” to raise there family, beyond medias destructive influence?? So from my ”prespective” the media is out of touch on reality, or chooses to be for the sake of electing an man with questionable background as Obama lingering question IS HE AN LEGIT US AMERICAN CITIZEN TO BECOME NEXT ”POSSIBLE” TO OCCUPY WHITE HOUSE?? WHY DOESN’T HE PRODUCE HIS ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE? THANKS TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION AND CHANGE, THATS THE RULE AT GOV’T OFFICES, ARE YOU ACTUALLY YOU??? PLEASE MR.OBAMA PROVE YOUR LEGALLY US RESIDENT, THE REST OF US HAVE TOO!

Posted by: dufusdems14 | September 7, 2008, 6:17 am 6:17 am

I remember seeing Sen. Obamas Birth certificate on a site, showing he was born in Hawaii.
Now, It was crystal clear (type) but I did see it. Perhaps Snopes can confirm or deny this?

Posted by: Bitsy | October 4, 2008, 2:37 am 2:37 am

edit. I stated Obamas Birth certificate (type) was crystal clear. Mistyped. I meant it was not totally readable.

Posted by: Bitsy | October 4, 2008, 2:39 am 2:39 am

no one caused sucha fuss when jamie lynn spears got preggers. yes they talked about her but they didnt go and blame her family or attack her mother. leave them alone. ppl in the spotlight having it harder than you think…if she were your daughter, would you be ok to her name being slammed in the mud? i dont htink so. each person has their own idea of what they should do, until its thier own child. thenthe tables are turn and teeth are barred…think of it this way. her daughter was preggers before palin was vp gop. and if mccain hadnt chose her, her daughter would STILL be preggers. so get off your high horses and in stead take the plank out of your eye before you remove the speck from hers. or anyone elses for that matter.

Posted by: beth | October 14, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm

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