Sep 7, 2008 11:35am

Stephanopoulos: Obama Considered Joining the Military

ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos reports: In an exclusive "This Week" interview, Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama said he considered joining the military after finishing high school.

"I had to sign up for selective service when I graduated from High School," Obama said. "I actually always thought of the military as an ennobling and you know, honorable option."

Obama suggested his decision not to enlist was an issue of timing, not service. "I graduated in 1979.  The Vietnam War had come to an end.  We weren’t engaged in an active military conflict at that point.  And so, it’s not an option that I ever decided to pursue," he said.

In his first Sunday morning show appearance since accepting the Democratic presidential nomination, Obama used the question as an opportunity to criticize Republican presidential candidate John McCain on veteran’s benefits.

"One of the things that I want to make sure of," Obama said, "is that, for those young men and women who decided to pursue a military career, that they are treated with the honor and dignity they deserve during service and when they get home."

"And this is actually an area where John McCain and I have had some disagreements in terms of funding veteran services and disability payments, and dealing with post-traumatic stress disorder — things that I prioritize," Obama said. 

User Comments

I wanted to join military when I was FIVE years old….. ABC ..talk about Obama’s room mate siddique when he was in Columbia and those LOST years………

Posted by: inde | September 7, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am

Posted by: newme234 | September 7, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am

UMMM, OKKKK!!
Sure, you did. Because any cursory review of your history supports that. His grandfather testified UNDER OATH that he was a Communist, and they moved to Seattle just so Obama’s mother could attend a left wing high school, that taught classes about anarchy…
Not to mention Obama’s mentor in Hawaii, Frank Marshall Davis, who was a communist also. (who bragged in his memoir about a 13 year old he and his wife seduced, that Frank)
If you’re in effect raised by Communists, joining the military is the LAST thing you want to do, unless you’re lying in full pander mode trying to save your own butt in an election.
Smear? If the truth is a smear, then I guess I’m smearing.

Posted by: hippie_chucker | September 7, 2008, 11:59 am 11:59 am

SARAH PALIN IS NOT ON TRAINING WHEELS WE CAN BELIEVE IN
“There’s a lot of complaining that the McCain campaign won’t allow anyone to interview Sarah Palin. And for the major news outlets that would be in line for such an interview there’s a logic to keeping up the drumbeat. But McCain campaign manager Rick Davis is right: It’s their campaign to run. They can do it how they want. Everyone else should just shut up, stop complaining and call the reality for what it is.
Davis says Palin won’t give any interviews until she feels “comfortable” giving one. And this morning he added that she wouldn’t give any “until the point in time when she’ll be treated with respect and deference.”
Sarah Palin could be the President of the United States in four and a half months. We tend to think of this as an abstraction; but it’s true. And yet today she’s so unprepared and knows so little about the challenges and tasks facing the country that she can’t even give a softball interview.
That’s really all we need to know. Yes, she’s off being prepped at some undisclosed location. And I’ve little doubt that by the time her debate rolls around she’ll be sufficiently pumped full of slogans and bromides to make a show of it. But now, this moment, is the one that tells us all we need to know.
As is so often the case, Palin is the incarnation of the Republican slurs. The darling of the hard-right; she gives a stem-winding speeches. She pushes all their buttons. But she’s such a lightweight, they can’t risk letting her answer a few questions. Not even on Fox. They know she’s not ready and probably never will be. But they think the politics might work for them.”
–Josh Marshall

Posted by: Ehhh | September 7, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm

We all had to sign up for Selective Service you bofo! That’s not “considering to join the military.” Obama is clearly losing it. Why oh why did we not pick Hillary as our nominee?

Posted by: Joe | September 7, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm

Hahahahaha…LOL. This guy is about to be president?
You see, the media has been successful to portray that W Bush is dumb guy despite the fact that he went to Yale and Harvard Business School. And as it turned out, his grades were better than those of Al Gore and John Kerry. And now the liberal democrats and their faithful media have been successful to portray that Obama is a genius despite his very poor direct and unscripted communication skills. And he does not even have any publications under his name except his two autobios. What a megalomania guy.
Obama’s candidacy is a fraud.

Posted by: John Carson | September 7, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm

i suppose we all consider it to some degree or another. I considered it for a short period after high school. Never too seriously, but i considered it nonetheless.
I think George was reading an email from someone who asked if Obama ever considered it, or why he never considered it. It was kind of a condescending question…like if you don’t serve you’re not worthy of being an american. Typical right wing uber/psuedo patriot rantings.

Posted by: dave | September 7, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm

LMAO!

Posted by: trettion | September 7, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm

It sounded soooooooo cheap!
Well, that was not above his pay grade, anyway. He is always capable of lying.

Posted by: Rob | September 7, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm

hippie_chucker,
You’re identifier is “hippie_chucker?” I think I just tuned out.
Have a nice Sunday.

Posted by: really | September 7, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm

Sarah Palin is spending time with her oldest son, Track, this weekend since he will be leaving for duty in Itaq next week. I don’t blame her for that because I spent a lot of time with my son before both his tours there. He is there as we speak.
Semper Fi

Posted by: Bob | September 7, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm

Obama got C in political science whwn he was in Columbia…. They don’t want to talk about his Lost years.

Posted by: Clinton supporter | September 7, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm

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Hey, EHHHHHcho. How about sticking with the topic of this thread. It’s about Obammy DODGING the military, remember.
Ok, since you are obsessed with Sarah Palin, let’s roll.
Think back, try, back 3, 4, 5 months ago. Sarah was running a State government, giving birth, fighting state corruption, and balancing a budget. No one could dream she would be chosen for the 2nd most important job in the free world. Why the hell should she care what went on in the Oral Office?
So now, you want her to jump in and face the Pr!ck Noberman, have Matthews slobber all over her, and each not give her a chance to answer their questions before they drum her off the stage. Yes, I can see that you WOULD like that.
But it don’t work that way. She will get some OJT (that stands for On the Job Training for you Obammabots) before she has to go into battle with liberal whackos.
So, give her just a little leeway. Just pretend that she is a “community organizer”.
Palin – 08

Posted by: LarryMan | September 7, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm

Obama is a serial liar.

Posted by: young_voter | September 7, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm

In this interview, Obama says he is in favor of school vouchers and a bigger military. I have to hand it to Barrry…he said it without giggling.

Posted by: Change? | September 7, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm

from the article: “I graduated in 1979. The Vietnam War had come to an end. We weren’t engaged in an active military conflict at that point. And so, it’s not an option that I ever decided to pursue,”
Personally, I graduated in 1983 and DID enlist in the military.
Leadership from the community organization specialist?

Posted by: greg216 | September 7, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm

lol. Is he really that nervous about where this election is going?!

Posted by: mpCT | September 7, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm

Clinton supporter,
Change your name to “Obama hater” or “Republican,” it would be more honest. Or does honesty matter to you?
BTW – If you were able to dig up all this information, what makes you think the rest of us can’t? Whose intelligence are you disregarding? The people you’re trying to convince? Huh.
Maybe we should ask about your grades.

Posted by: really | September 7, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm

Why the preferential treatment for Sarah? If she is as good as they say she is, she can handle it all! WOW, aren’t you all being protective one who needs to be able to handle the heat.

Posted by: veritas1st | September 7, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm

I would like to know the answer to this question – Did Obama write about considering military service in either one of his 2 memoirs/books?
If the answer is no, I am very suspect of his claim in Sept. 2008.

Posted by: MCarroll | September 7, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm

If he had joined he might have been part of the illegal wars that the u.s military were involved in.
The wars in Nicaragua, Managua, and Guatemala. The ones where over 500,000 were killed. The wars where we supplied rebels illegally with money we got from supplying arms to IRAN.

Posted by: Lawyers Guns and Money | September 7, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm

Obama: Mister panderer. There’s nothing he won’t say!

Posted by: rodney | September 7, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm

2 of our most respected Presidents in times of war were Lincoln and FDR. Neither one served in the military.

Posted by: mary | September 7, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm

Let’s not be sexist. Did Sarah “consider” joining the military?

Posted by: veritas1st | September 7, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm

Let’s not be sexist. Let’s talk about Sarah and her military aspirations.

Posted by: veritas1st | September 7, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm

mary
It’s not about serving or not serving.
It’s about Obama and his inability to find truth.

Posted by: rodney | September 7, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm

No young_voter, the republicans are serial liars. Looks like you’re a republican, oops, same size shoes, eh?!

Posted by: bc46 | September 7, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm

Is there a reason that we cannot address Sarah Palin’s military service?

Posted by: veritas1st | September 7, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm

oh rodney, do you really want to talk about who has the inability to find truth? Do you really want to talk about how many lies were introduced from the republicans?
Lets all hope that the Alaska Crab Queen can find another administrator to help her do her job. When it comes to her “experience” you all HAVE to lie because to tell the truth would prove she’s not qualified to run this country.
It’s the economy, stupid. Anything else, like joining the military, is just a distraction.

Posted by: bc46 | September 7, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm

He’s never mentioned it before, not even in two autobiographies, but Barack Obama has suddenly remembered that he considered joining the military.
Obama disclosed that he had once considered serving in the military.
“You know, I actually did,” Obama said. “I had to sign up for Selective Service when I graduated from high school. And I was growing up in Hawaii. And I have friends whose parents were in the military. There are a lot of Army, military bases there.
“And I actually always thought of the military as an ennobling and, you know, honorable option. But keep in mind that I graduated in 1979. The Vietnam War had come to an end. We weren’t engaged in an active military conflict at that point. And so, it’s not an option that I ever decided to pursue.”
UPDATE at 9/7/08 9:12:26 am:
Just one problem with Obama’s little story.
Registration for selective service was not reinstated until 1980.
On March 25, 1975, Pres. Gerald Ford signed Proclamation 4360, Terminating Registration Procedures Under Military Selective Service Act, eliminating the registration requirement for all 18-25 year old male citizens. Then on July 2, 1980, President Jimmy Carter signed Proclamation 4771, Registration Under the Military Selective Service Act, retroactively re-establishing the Selective Service registration requirement for all 18-26 year old male citizens born on or after January 1, 1960. Only men born between March 29, 1957, and December 31, 1959, were completely exempt from Selective Service registration. The first registrations after Proclamation 4771 took place on Monday, July 21, 1980, for those men born in January, February and March 1960 at U.S. Post Offices.

Posted by: Joe | September 7, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm

We would all love to see Obama’s transcripts from Columbia. Why can’t we see them???
We would also like to see his senatorial records, his medical HISTORY, ALL of his educational records and his ever-elusive birth certificate.
Yeah, Barry, we know you may have CONSIDERED the military, but we all know you lack the well, whatever, to ever do anything other than promote yourself for your OWN benefit.
PUMA! McCain/Palin 2008 – In lieu of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.
“No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party which ignores her sex.”
- Susan B. Anthony

Posted by: LeeLee07 | September 7, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm

That statement was just so much more political pandering and probably lies. His whole life has been about his self-centered need for attention, not courage or service.

Posted by: Mary | September 7, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm

I still have yet to see any of these conservatives come to the rescue of Barbie when it comes to her education, forget about her non-military service.
She calls anyone with an education an elitist. Again, forget the military service. 6 yrs to get a 4 yr degree? In journalism to boot. All hail our intelligent super power lol The world is sitting back laughing at just how stupid the US is, with this farce of a vp pick. McCain’s slogan should really say Me and Party First. He’d rather lose a country to win an election.

Posted by: bc46 | September 7, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm

Obama is THE pick of the Iranian government and Hezbullah. They are cheering him on. Enough said!

Posted by: T.M. Whitworth | September 7, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm

lol actually T.M. they are cheering on the oh so intelligent hockeymom.

Posted by: bc46 | September 7, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm

Obama is such a pandering jerk.
Oh i considered joing the military.
Well you didnt so stop your bs tactics.
This is why McCain will win!!!!

Posted by: MLBS | September 7, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm

First Obama said he signed up for the Selective Service–yes, everyone does but some how he makes it sound like he is special. Obama made a mistake and said during the interview “my Muslin faith” and Stephanopolous had to correct him and say “your Christian faith” —sort of interetsing. When asked the question about the “results” of the tax cuts, Obama didn’t touch that question if they would create jobs or eliminate them….Why doesn’t George Stepanopulous run for office…he is very sharp and can think….Obama doesn’t listen to the questions, he repeats the same answers like he has been programmed. And, no one “monks” his 2 years experience as a “community organizer”. They do good work in communities…everyone is questioning the level of work and expertise needed to be President. Can you put a elementary school teacher (who does excellent work in our communities) to teach a college course? I am very disappointed in Obama’s answers and will not vote for him now. No need for the debates—he cannot think well or coordinate his thoughts.

Posted by: Ann | September 7, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm

As far as I know, efforts to confirm his registration have been unsuccessful, and Sen. Obama has failed thus far to offer proof of registration, or authorize this information to the general public. It is in the public’s interest to know whether a potential president followed the law during his lifetime.
However, Obama can lay this issue to rest immediately by providing proof of his Selective Service registration, which is required to serve in the Executive Branch. The President of the United States of America is the head of the Executive Branch of government.
Hmmmmm, don’t tell me, I already know – any “proof” is irretrievably lost.
PUMA! McCain/Palin 2008 – In lieu of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.
“No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party which ignores her sex.”
- Susan B. Anthony

Posted by: LeeLee07 | September 7, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm

‘Obama is a serial liar.’ — ‘Change your name to “Obama hater” or “Republican,” it would be more honest. Or does honesty matter to you?’
Doesn’t this say it all?? This is exactly why Obamajoey WILL be elected. The proof happens to have been repeated several times in this country. Just look at the Clintoon elections, the DC mayoral, terrible Teddy K. (pre and post Chappaquiddick),and on and on… The more these candidates lie and then tell us to believe them, because we look good or can speak well, the more the idiot public elects them. We are our own worst enemy when it comes to our elected officials.
So, more power to Obamajoey — to the biggest liars, go the spoils (this countries wealth and offices).

Posted by: freethought4u | September 7, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm

Shame on you Obama, are you an American man??
Do we want this kid of person as commander-in-chief, to command our soldiers??????????????????????????????

Posted by: golfgirlusa | September 7, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm

If Obama registered, he’d have a draft card. He probably put that with his birth certificate.
Serial liar – YES.
Pathological liar – YES!

Posted by: rodney | September 7, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm

Sarah Palin just mislead by saying that she ‘put the luxury jet on eBay’ knowing well that people are not going to see it differently from ‘sold it on eBay’ – that’s the argument campaign used to defend her!
Now the mask is off! McCain said that the part he loved most in Palin’s speech was that she ‘sold the jey on eBay’ – No cover-ups possible..liars are out in the open! Let us wait and see what campaign says for this? Or that Palin mislead John as well?

Posted by: Siddhartha | September 7, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm

Before anyone dismisses the fact that Sarah Palin is Commander of the Alaska National Guard consider this. Alaska is the first line of defense in our missile interceptor defense system. The 49th Missile Defense Battalion of the Alaska National Guard is the unit that protects the entire nation from ballistic missile attacks. It’s on permanent active duty, unlike other Guard units.
As governor of Alaska , Palin is briefed on highly classified military issues, homeland security, and counter-terrorism. Her exposure to classified material may rival even Biden’s and certainly by far exceeds Obama’s.
She’s also the commander in chief of the Alaska State Defense Force (ASDF), a federally recognized militia incorporated into Homeland Security’s counter-terrorism plans. Palin is privy to military and intelligence secrets that are vital to the entire country’s defense. Given Alaska ‘s proximity to Russia , she may have security clearances we don’t even know about.
According to the Washington Post, she first met with McCain in February, but nobody ever found out. This is a woman used to keeping secrets.
She can be entrusted with our national security, because she already is.

Posted by: Bob | September 7, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm

Palin is in charge of the National Guard in Alaska. She has leadership skills in the military. It pays to read: Greta Van Susteren went and got the facts about Governor Palin’s performance as head of Alaska’s National Guard from Major General Craig E. Campbell.” You can check out the interview for yourself.

Posted by: Libby | September 7, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm

“If Obama registered, he’d have a draft card. He probably put that with his birth certificate.”
Yes, being a serial liar is within Senator Obama’s “pay grade”.
People, wake up and look carefully before you cast your vote!
McCain 08!
Hillary 2012!

Posted by: Rob | September 7, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm

It is not too late Obama, you can join the military right now. I will see you in Iraq. Remember to bring your friend with you, Senator Bi N-L-A den.

Posted by: Kevin P | September 7, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm

McCain’s “Little Eskimo” will come on the talk shows when she’s ready. Which will probably be never.

Posted by: ericmiami | September 7, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm

Depends on which military Obama wanted to join. Not the USA.
He already belonged to the African Muslim God Dmn America military of Chicago, Farrakhan, his native country Kynia madrassa, and his followers who throw the American flag in the garbage.
America, no one has done more for you than John McCain, in blood and flesh. A real American Hero including his grandfather and father.

Posted by: Mrs. Phoenix | September 7, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm

WHAT IS A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER?

Posted by: Pat234 | September 7, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm

WHAT IS A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER?

Posted by: Pat234 | September 7, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm

Oops. There wasn’t selective service until 1980. What a idiot!

Posted by: dlc | September 7, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm

Go ahead we could use you and the rest of your slimy, scumbag colleagues who send other people’s children off to fight. And when your kid stumbles into the theater he/she is safely tucked away from the combat zone, and chaperoned like Al Gore. Join the fight Barack! Join the fight McCain, you wanna “follow bin Laden into the gates of hell”, I’ll give you my weapon and a canteen. March on Johnny boy! Nah, you get more money and attention SAYIING you’ll catch him rather than put special forces and the CIA on his butt until we catch and kill ‘em. I guess that makes bin Laden your “useful idiot” to parrot out in some phony tape every time your party needs a couple of points in the approval rating or to deflect the flak from the latest scandal of the week. You won’t catch bin Laden, but your sure as hell get alot of power chasing after the hologram that is the bin Laden/al Quaeda farce inspired “War on Terror.” I guess some CIA assets never stop in their usefulness, do they John/Barack? Oh and thank your son for his imploding of that bank in Arizona. I’m sure somewhere you and your buddy Frank Keating are having a big laugh over that bilking of the taxpayers again. Have a night of fun with Jeanne Palfrey’s girls on me!

Posted by: argh! | September 7, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm

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Barryio didn’t have to join the military.
He was DODGING SNIPER FIRE IN CHICAGO back then.
His friend Bill Aires took care of all those snipers, though.
Palin 08

Posted by: LarryMan | September 7, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm

30 days from now Obama will be talking like Hillary-McCain. Yes he would have copied policy of Hillary & McCain.
He did not say which military May be he was talking about Osama’s militry

Posted by: adam | September 7, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

This is as believable as him sitting in that three ring circus of a church he attended for 20 years and not hearing Rev. Wright spew his hate and fury.
And can someone tell me why he didn’t have the balls to put Hillary on the ticket as VP despite her 18 million votes?
Ugh -

Posted by: ch | September 7, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm

So which McCain do you want to vote for:
There was the one who was for RoeVWade (circa 2000) and the one who is against Roe (circa 2008)
There is the one who is against the bush tax cute (circa 2002) and the one who is for them (circa 2008)
There is the one who said the invasion of Iraq would be easy (2003) and the one who said that he knew it would never be easy (2008)
There is the one who was for immigration reform (2003) and the one who would vote against the bill that he himself wrote (2008).
Sure, McCain was once a maverick Republican, but he isn’t anymore — he’s turned into George Bush. And for those of you who think you are getting one of them or the other, you had better think again… once he gets in office, which one do you think he’ll be?

Posted by: scaretactics | September 7, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm

McCain holds to his principles — and his principle is that he will take any position that the republican party tells him to take.

Posted by: morescare | September 7, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm

ch -
THAT IS TOTALLY UNFAIR!!!!
You know Michelle has his peanuts hidden away in a LockBox! :)
PUMA! McCain/Palin 2008 – In lieu of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.
“No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party which ignores her sex.”
- Susan B. Anthony

Posted by: LeeLee07 | September 7, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm

Oh yeah, and he flopped his position on torture. He started by saying it was a “principled stand” against using extreme interrogation techniques. Then he changed his mind on this too. Since he felt so strong about this issue, but the republican base made him switch, I really wonder if he feels like the puppet he is.

Posted by: stillmorescare | September 7, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm

I served on a local selective service board in the early 80s. I honestly can’t remember if prior to that, if young men were required to register (1976 -1980). Anyone know for sure?

Posted by: Manitu | September 7, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm

Why the preferential treatment for Sarah? If she is as good as they say she is, she can handle it all! WOW, aren’t you all being protective one who needs to be able to handle the heat.
Posted by: veritas1st | Sep 7, 2008 12:32:01 PM
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She and their handlers are emulating Obuma… they are trying to hide the fact that she was merely a community organizer.
The truth will come out!

Posted by: HP Boston | September 7, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm

Did anyone notice that Obama talked about attacks on his “Muslim Faith”? Then Stepn had to correct him and said; “But you’re Christian.” Obama clarified, but man WHAT A MISTAKE! For the record, I am not religious, but I have no problem with any religion. We all know there are extremists in anything. To paraphrase the late Joseph Campbell, religion is a need of humans, and if it serves to provide a moral compass; as long as it is not used to oppress people, it is all good. Nevertheless, WHAT A MISTAKE TO MAKE RIGHT NOW. Getting thrown off balance huh Obama?

Posted by: irma | September 7, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++=
scarebaby, your rant is easy to explain.
John McCain can support an issue until the situation changes. Like he was against additional drilling UNTIL gas hit $400 a gallon. So now we need to drill and he got the message.
As for Bush, I hope like hell he is more like Bush. Bush has done a super job, especially on the economy.
Too bad the democrats in congress won’t do THEIR jobs.
Palin 08

Posted by: LarryMan | September 7, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm

Mr. Obama would not have had the choice to go into the military service in 1979. His admitted drug use would have disqualified him. Perhaps he could have lied on his application.

Posted by: Frye | September 7, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm

He also wanted to be a fireman and an astronaut. Guys that qualifies most of us to be president too….

Posted by: Scott | September 7, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm

Larry you are as brain dead as any Republican I have read the post of. Not to mention quite the racist also.

Posted by: General Douglas McArthur | September 7, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm

Wow!
No wonder BHO is doing all these talk shows. Just found out: McCain-Palin ahead by 4% in Zogby and ahead by 3% in Gallup.
No wonder he has a small army of lawyers up there in Alaska right now digging up serious dirt, (they hope), on Gov. Palin.
Let’s see, 30 lawyers up there for a week would cost around $1.5 million. That’s serious money for investigating someone who’s not even your direct opponent.
I wonder if the Obamabots realize where all their contributions are going? Well, we where some of it is going. Mustn’t forget the $6 million Greek temple.
Word of advice: don’t waste it on this man; he’s simply not worth the expense.

Posted by: Marty | September 7, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

Sure, Bush has done a wonderful job on the economy. What are you smoking?

Posted by: LArryisaMoron | September 7, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm

Yes Gerald Ford had the Selective Service Act canceled in 1975 it was reinstated in 1980 by President Carter, for registration purposes only as there was no need for drafting as the All voluntary Armed Services were recruting all the people they needed. But they wanted a ready source of names in case a draft might become necessary.

Posted by: Gomer Pyle USMC | September 7, 2008, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm

He should have been an actor, what with his talented reading and all. Besides, he is really good at pulling off other people’s ideals and ideas. He does have a problem being WHOMEVER he really is.

Posted by: irma | September 7, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm

Bush is the economic hero of the rich upper class of America whom he has served with complet distinction, making them filty rich and destroying middle America. Yea Team Were Number 1 go GOP.

Posted by: Saddlesablazing | September 7, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm

larry man did you mean the job the Republican President and his 49 Senators are blocking and have been since they lost the House and Senate last election, but not enough so the democrats could pass legislation even if vetoed??? is that the job your talking about or is it your crapola speech every Republican gives like drill here drill now as if the oil companies weren’t doing just that when crude was worth 140 a barrel. At that price every oil man was foaming at the mouth to drill.

Posted by: ronnieraygun | September 7, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm

In case anyone cares that plane was not sold on e-bay. It was sold privately to an entrepreneur for 2.1 mil dollars.
A bit of a fib???

Posted by: Pat Napolitano Marietta. Ga. | September 7, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm

Pat not a fib an ommision of facts which is the same as lying.

Posted by: Ernest T Bass | September 7, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm

What’s another way to spell O*B*A*M*A?
Answer: P*E*L*O*S*I
Yep, Obama is Pelosi’s boy!

Posted by: rodney | September 7, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm

OK Larryman! but is drilling relvant now after gas has gone down? Now is the chance for a long term solution not just mindless drilling! and 2 u Scott, jsut because Obama had aspirations as a young kid doesn’t mean he is not qualified for the job. McCain’s record shows numerous flip-flops in congress and nothing more! Just because a man serves in the military, it doesn’t justify his claim to presidency!

Posted by: ruserious? | September 7, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

I’ve always been very conservative, but I just can’t bring myself to vote for McCain. Maybe it is because I’m an internet addict and i’ve seen SO many videos of McCain completely contradicting himself and being just entirely disingenuous. He’s changed his opinion on EVERYTHING. I don’t know what he stands for anymore. I think I’m going to sit this election out. I don’t even care if obama gets elected — maybe us republicans need a chance to regroup and get some new ideas instead of just saying the same thing that Bush said in 2000.

Posted by: notliberal | September 7, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm

Saudis pay for Obama’s Harvard education?. See Newsmax/Ken Timmerman.
Seems clear. Also, an Obama hate america connection long before Rev. Wright. Obama may have just been gullible but Obama/Panther/Saudi/Harvard connection is real.

Posted by: Manitu | September 7, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm

Drilling is economically stupid. You have this resource — you KNOW it is going to get more and more valuable and more and more scarce. So as soon as the price starts to look good you sell? NO! you hold it and sell when the price is REALLY high. Drilling now is bad economics. Save it for when we can get a decent price for it.

Posted by: drill | September 7, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm

Give me a break with all the stupid name-calling. Things like
“Obama hates america” and “McCain is a crook” are just plain stupid. Is there any hope of having a real discussion here?

Posted by: givemeabreak | September 7, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm

Anyone see this clip of people at the RNC trying to define “small town values”. Basically, all they can think of to say about “values” is that they hate gays.. This is hysterical
http://thebruceblog.wordpress.com/2008/09/06/video-daily-show-republicans-define-small-town-values-lol/

Posted by: smalltownvalues | September 7, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm

Gee. I missed that entry in his books. If he had considered it, don’t you think he’d of put it in his books, right next to trying “blow?”

Posted by: Jackson | September 7, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm

I LOVE the daily show. They had a great clip showing side by side Bush’s 2000 speech and McCain’s 2008 speech. They are EXACTLY the same. It is so frightening!
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/09/06/daily-show-2008-mccain-2000-bush/

Posted by: dailyshowfan | September 7, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm

notliberal.
Examples of McCain changing mind on everything? If that is true, and as a cons, I disagree very much, is that a bad thing? Changing mind is one thing, but what Obama does is much more serious than changing mind. If McCain loses this election, The REPS may NEVER have the chance to regroup. If you are really a cons, you have to be really exited about Gov. Palin, NO?

Posted by: Manitu | September 7, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm

POLLS THAT MATTER
The State-by-State Electoral College Map:
Obama 301
McCain 224
Tie 13
See http://www.electoral-vote.com/
Ypou need just 270 to win. Obama has 31 in reserve and when he gets Florida and Virginia, it is over.
I can see why the Repugs are pannicking. They have had a negative bounce in the polls that matter after their convention.
McOldman is toast.

Posted by: Steve_NJ | September 7, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm

What is scary???
Nancy Pelosi is 3rd in line for the Presidency.
Pelosi and Reid are destroying the House and Senate and are the cause of an approval rating o 9-12%. Pelosi is from SF — so I understand why she keep getting re-elected. But I would think the voters of Nevada would have more sense.

Posted by: susie | September 7, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm

Obama: Fight high pump prices by putting air in your tires and by drilling where there is no oil to be found. That’s Obama’s plan and he’s sticking to it.
Until, that is, some poll find it unpalatable. Then, he’ll change is stance on a dime!

Posted by: rodney | September 7, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm

drill.
BEST scenario is two years from drill to pump. If Israel his Iran this fall, it is already too late. Then what? We will keep making excuses for NOT drilling until we are forced onto bicycles or using those things at the bottom of our legs. So wonderful!

Posted by: Manitu | September 7, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm

Rodney.
THAT CAN’T BE YOU!!!!!!

Posted by: Manitu | September 7, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm

Obama: “Small town folk are so confused about the complexities of life that they cling to their bible and tote their guns wherever they go. Now, you people in San Francisco are elite and intelligent and … WHAT DO YOU MEAN THIS IS BEING RECORDED?”
“Well, that was probably a poor choice of words …”.

Posted by: rodney | September 7, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm

————————————–
You brilliant libs who look at every mindless video put out by dailyshow, dailykos, or at http://www.iamatotalidiot.com.
On election day, be sure and just vote on the internet. Your vote will count, trust me.
Trust me, like you do Obammy.
Palin – 08

Posted by: LarryMan | September 7, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm

RCP:
Barack Obama 273 John McCain 265 (when no toss ups)
Ladies and gentlemen, this is a dead heat.

Posted by: JA | September 7, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm

Regarding the post by “Joe” at 12:41:05 PM: Just to add, on 6/2/80, when Selective Service was reinstated by Carter, we were 7 months into the Iranian Hostage Crisis (a pretty significant “active military conflict” Obama doesn’t seem to recall).
According to Selective Service records posted at Free Republic, Obama registered for Selective Service in Hawaii on September 4, 1980 (#61-1125539-1). On that day, we were exactly 10 months into the “active military crisis” and exactly 6 months from the tragic, failed attempt to rescue the hostages, Operation Eagle Claw.
So Obama better hope he was only lying, otherwise the question is: “If you actively considered the military, and didn’t join because you felt nothing significant was going on, please tell us why you didn’t consider the Iranian Hostage Crisis an ‘”active military crisis?’”

Posted by: EJH | September 7, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm

You have to love Obama.
First he’s fighting hypothetical opponents (hypothetical John McCain who might, in a possible world, make a comment about his race or alleged Muslim background).
Now, we have Obama telling us of a possible world in which he joined the military.
REALITY is Obama, you DIDN’T join (you probably never even seriously considered it).
The ironic thing is, by this logic since Obama wrote in elementary school that he wanted to be president he has shown his political ambition to precede his love for his country. LOL

Posted by: JA | September 7, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm

People, would any of you accidentally call yourself Muslim?

Posted by: Misstickly | September 7, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm

Wait a minute…I graduated in 1979 too. This is exactly when the Iranian Hostage Crisis was going on. This is also when America had “the Worst Commander in Chief” in modern history. I joined the Army and served proudly. President Carter destroyed the morale of our military. When Ronald Reagan became President he immediatly change our military for the better. Obama = Jimmy Carter…the Worst Commander in Chief in modern history…not what we need in dangerous times.

Posted by: Ranger Bert | September 7, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm

As for the working class which all the Obama supports claim to want to help, yet throughout the campaign, they were not a focus but rather ideas of who as a person should be our DeM nominee. Not based on accomplishments, but who is being reached. The Obama backers chose youth enthusiasm which consisted of bashing Hillary as a woman, as a Clinton, as a supposed racist (WHICH SHE IS NOT AND NEVER HAS BEEN) as well as bashing her supporters. Not based on issues, but a full force attack to destroy a DEMOCRATIC LEGACY in order to promote one man who did nothing to help the people in comparison to all the service of the CLINTONS. Ted Kennedy, Pelosi, Kerry all of them put Obama before party, before the people, before the country when they cut the REAl DEMOCRATS OFF. At least to the working class, drilling means jobs…cheaper fuel….less dependency…bridge to energy that is better for environ and also produces more jobs. Stronger military for the REAL threat, meaning MORE JOBS. Rather than telling us how “backward” we are in comparison to your college going youth, you should have been speaking to our IMMEDIATE SURVIVAL, where there is no room to be bashed about ideals not being where you think they should be as reason to vote for you. Palin stepped in, and although her philosophy may be a concern; her energy plan spoke to the people who need to survive, you know the ones you all find yourselves superior to.

Posted by: irma | September 7, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm

I’m not a liberal, but I think drilling is stupid. We have a resource… and it is only going to get more valuable. So we want to sell it now when it is cheap. Just stupid. 4$ a gallon is nothing compared to what gas is going to cost in 10 years. We’ll get 40$ a gallon for it in ten years. Thats a 10x return in 10 years. Pretty good. We should keep the stuff in the ground until the last moment…

Posted by: nodrill | September 7, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm

Economy.
Will some lib on here please explain to me how increasing the size of the Fed by 20 – 30 percent, as Obama wants to do, will be a boom for the economy? As I see it, and I have to say most economists probably see it – IT WILL BE A BOOMERANG!! Don’t be too long, must go to store for a bottle of vino!!

Posted by: Manitu | September 7, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm

I would never accidentally call myself anything I am not. It was interesting. If he is or was Muslim, he should have admitted it and gone: “And what of it?!” In anycase, here is what I will do for you, as proven by my work in…..But he couldn’t do that because there wasn’t much there….

Posted by: irma | September 7, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm

Why why why can’t people see that McCain is a total fake. He has flipped flopped his position on everything from RoeVWade to Torture to Iraq to Drilling to Immigration and the list goes on and on and on. There isn’t a thing he stands for anymore. In every single case he flipped from his “principled” position to the “politically expedient” position.
Maverick=flip-flopper.

Posted by: whywhywhy | September 7, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm

I hope Sarah Palin is asked why she didn’t join the military. And why didn’t Bush or Cheney?

Posted by: ALB | September 7, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm

Why, why, couldn’t Obama realize he shouldn’t turn his back on DEMOCRATIC people, while distorting whom they are just to get elected.

Posted by: irma | September 7, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm

I’m for Obama because I like someone with big ears to tell me where to go. I’m frightened to go anywhere by myself and Obama changes position enough that following him is really interesting.
Come on fellow lemmings – there is plenty of room at the rear of our column. Ready, March!

Posted by: Lemmings for Obama | September 7, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm

Even though the Republicans have screwed most things up and shamelessly lie everyday, they got my vote, because I like to reward failure.

Posted by: Patriot | September 7, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm

When you ask people who need jobs who they want, they could careless if the gal or guy has one Muslim head and one Christian head and what color they might be. Mention: JOBS like Hillary did, and you have their attention. Oh yeah and implying they are racist to boot, well that just makes them feel like, becoming one. OBAMA IS A RACE BAITOR and everyone refused to see it. He has divided people that shared a philosophy, but that philosophy turned into criticism of the poor who can’t afford higher education; nice way to make us feel like you’re on our side.

Posted by: irma | September 7, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm

It appears that by the logic exhibited on this board that unless people join the military, they are not fit to serve in politics. So I assume that Palin, Romney (and all of his sons), and every single Republican who did not serve in the military is unfit. I look forward to your condemnation of Palen and lack of service to our country. (And just because she is a woman doesn’t count. She did not have a baby until her mid-twenties, plenty of time for her to join the military and serve our country.)

Posted by: ALB | September 7, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm

Barack “shape-shifter” Obama finally confesses that rescinding President Bush’s tax cuts or raising new taxes will hurt the economy. (Associated press, 2008) He has amazingly shape-shifted into a tax cutting republican, but don’t hold your breath, in a second he will shape-shift into something new.

Posted by: Norman | September 7, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm

If Obama had been sent to Viet
Nam, he would have needed a
change alright.

Posted by: jimboster | September 7, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm

ALB.
BUSH WAS IN THE MILITARY – YOU IDIOT!!

Posted by: Manitu | September 7, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm

“I thought about joining the military. But I also admired women so much, I was considering a sex change operation. Of course, that may have jeopardized my quasi-homosexual relationship at the time. Have I missed kissing the a$$ of any major constiuency?”

Posted by: FishMonger | September 7, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm

What a shame!
We should add a restriction in constitution that, the man who didn’t not join milirary can not join the presidential campaign.

Posted by: golfgirlusa | September 7, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm

Obama certainly is getting desperate here, man!
What exactly qualifies as “considering going into the military?”
I would bet at least 80% of the population has asked themselves if they would want to go into the military. Does that mean all those people have considered it? I guess so! Obama is going down. He just gets worse and worse.

Posted by: Paul | September 7, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm

Democrats, lets be true to ourselves, putting Palin on the ticket is a samrt political move by Mccain and they are now dictating the rules by playing the gender card. The elections are not lost yet. Mccain is ahead because of the covention. We wouldnt get a realistic view of the race till Thursday next week. So far, Obama and Biden have been doing well in their interviews. Biden was good today but Obama was excellent. He may have made a slip but everybody understood the direction he was heading and not the bloggers playing games on these blogs. I think Obama has to pull the plug from Mccain-Palin. Let him give an idea of how his cabinet is going to look like and what Hillary Clinton position is going to be. He is behind not because a lot of Republicans are coming out for Mccains but instead a lot of Democrats are moving out from him. he is still beating Mccain on independents but he has to increase Democratic support and the only joker left for him is to indicate where Hillary Clinton will play. He will still win otherwise let him start planning on how to increase the youth vote or the black support. Waoh never thought we could be thrice stupid. And please stop bashing Palin’s family. The biggest movement is not from the ladies but from uneducated white men. Call them whatever, the blue-collar, reagan democrats or working class. He is winning the working class females but the males are leaving in droves and many more are undecided. They dont want to vote Mccain but we are giving them a reason not to vote Obama.

Posted by: vuzous | September 7, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm

You can’t blame people for how they vote, you can only blame a candidate’s strategy for how the candidate “inspired” them to vote. BTW; Hillary got more votes. In any case, Obama’s strategy pushed people away, there was a void, and for a percentage (that will make enough of the difference), the void was filled. Politics 101…..Any Democrat could have wrapped this election and we all know that. But nooooo, the Obama DEMS decided they were the ELITE answer to EVERYTHING. Of course they had to try to destroy the one “we people” thought really spoke to us. Now you all expect to just USE her to promote the loser.

Posted by: irma | September 7, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm

NEWSFLASH! THIS JUST IN:
McCAIN IS ACCUSED OF THEFT!
Apparently still reeling from being caught stealing no less than 12,000 US flags from the Democrats in an overnight raid recently, now authorities are revealing more theft complaints involving McCain and his personal entourage.
As if stealing 12,000 flags and blaming it on local Boy Scouts wasn’t enough, McCain now stands accused of stealing a copy of Gideon’s bible from a hotel in Minneapolis during his stay there for the convention earlier this week.
Hotel employees gave a list of several items missing from the Hotel after McCain stayed there, including the Bible. Other missing items included three cocktail glasses, an ice bucket, several bars of soap, three rolls of toilet paper and those tiny little ketchup and mustard bottles.
Boy Scouts den mothers also expressed their dismay given the recent circumstances surround the wild accusations that somehow Boy Scouts were wandering the Invesco Arena area during the late hours after the DNC Convention and had stumbled upon 12,000 US flags, which they were then alleged to have stolen and having fenced in Minneapolis to the RNC. “I am shocked” said one mother. “Little Jimmy is home by sunset and tucked in by 8:30 every night, including weekends”.
“These Bibles are no longer free to steal” said the Hotel manager anonymously for fear of scurrilous reprisals by Republican fanatics. “It clearly states on the inside cover that you have to send away now for a free copy of the Gideon’s Bible” exclaimed the Hotel manager.
“You can’t just go willy-nilly taking things as if you own the world” the manager added. “I hear he was illegally downloading music off the internet last month to use in his TV commercials to bash the Democrats.”
Apparently McCain has long suffered from a rare disorder called “Hotel Kleptomania” stemming all the way back to his days in the Hanoi Hilton, where staff still insist he would take spoons, which have not been accounted for to this day. McCain still holds a grudge against the Hiltons, recently implicating young Paris Hilton in one of his regular tirades about Barack Obama, his staunch Democratic rival for the presidency.
The Hiltons were not available for comment, but a spokesperson for the Hotel chain said that McCain has been blacklisted from staying at their hotels since the early 70s due to missing items whenever he would stay at one of their hotels.
This is just one more blow to the McCain camp, still reeling from theft accusations including stealing Barack Obama’s political campaign theme and message as well, a message of change and reform. “We knew he had taken the message”, as did several witnesses who spotted McCain, Washington insider and veteran politician for a quarter century, spouting the term change and reform where several members of the American public were gathered.
One witness said he knew McCain had stolen Obama’s message when he heard McCain having tremendous difficulty pronouncing the word “change”. “It sounded so strange coming from Mr. McCain that you could readily see he was unfamiliar with the concept or how to pronounce the word” said one eye witness. A local panhandler handed McCain a dollar, thinking McCain was begging for a hand out. “I just felt sorry for the guy” said the homeless man, he kept saying “change”.
Mr. Obama stated that “This is a sad day for all Americans” and lamented that McCain really had no message or content of his own to use for his campaign. Mr. Obama volunteered to donate his political message and theme to McCain just as soon as he was finished with them, after November 6th.
Democratic supporters feeling bad for poor McCain have started a campaign and are mailing McCain their loose change.

Posted by: THIS JUST IN | September 7, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm

Norman.
You might not believe me, but the AP is not exactly friendly to REPS. Not as obvious as NY TIMES, but close.

Posted by: Manitu | September 7, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm

McCain served his country and Obama opted not too. McCain’s a veteran and Obama isn’t. This can only mean that only McCain is qualified to be Commander-in-Chief or to speak on veteran’s benefits. Sorry but, McCain’s got Obama beat in this category hands down.

Posted by: denn84116 | September 7, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm

People on this blog are just reading the headlines to form their opinions. Obama did not just indicate he planned on joining the Military. It just shows many people did not watch the interview. You can watch the whole interview on this same site. The answer was in response to a gal’s question, and the question was phrased as ‘Did you ever had any plans or notion on joining the Military and if you didnt why? He mentioned his registering for selective service and why he never pursued the option on joining the military. he was marvellous in his answers. Watch it yourself. Its on this site. You dont have to google or start searching. STOP INSINUATING.

Posted by: vuzous | September 7, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm

Posted by: LightSeeker | September 7, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm

What a shame!
We should add a restriction in constitution that, the man who didn’t not join milirary can not join the presidential campaign.
Posted by: golfgirlusa | Sep 7, 2008 3:32:37 PM
—————————————
OK, while I am not going to berate golfgurl’s comments as ignorant of pretty much every value that Republicans AND Democrats hold dear, I am going to suggest that golfgurl (probably a guy) must now write a 500 page essay about why America is based on the principals that DO NOT require the president to have military experience.
For extra credit, you can also write a 500 word essay about why the same holds true for religious affiliations.
Put your thinking cap on gurl!
PS – I personally have feeling similar to that which you expressed about the military requirement.
But I don’t always express them in public forums such as this one.
For starters, I might have certain beliefs that absolute moronic imbeciles should be restricted from writing on public forums, talking in public without a moderator and in some cases even vreathing air while not monitored, for THEIR own good. But I am not expressing those ideas here as they would be wholly out of place.
NOW, the reason I KNOW that golfgurl is a MAN and not a gurl is out of her SEXIST comment about how the president should be a MAN! – Go ahead and re-read it now and you’ll agree – Sadly, another Republican blogger/agent. – They need to up that stipend for those Rep bloggers…maybe they’ll get some intelligent posters (maybe they should hire a few Dems to work with them, LOL)

Posted by: HUH | September 7, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm

Obama “My Muslim Faith”
Obama is lucky Stephanopoulos is a Democrat and jumped in to cover that up.

Posted by: seah | September 7, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm

Barack Obama: On Appeasement
“The U.S. should find a mechanism whereby the disaffected have an effective outlet for their grievances, which assures them they are getting social services… The U.S. needs a foreign policy that looks at the root causes of problems and dangers. (Obama compared Hezbollah to Hamas.) Both need to be compelled to understand that they’re going down a blind alley with violence that weakens their legitimate claims… If they decide to shift, we’re going to recognize that. That’s an evolution that should be recognized.”

Posted by: LightSeeker | September 7, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

FDR was one of the best WARTIME Presidents with NO military experience. This is a silly side show, there are plenty of OTHER ISSUES ON THE TABLE. Man, I guess one of the things someone is forgetting to teach in Politics these days is FOCUS. THE CLINTONS ARE MASTERS AT THIS, too bad we have Obama instead.

Posted by: irma | September 7, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

Obama “I had to sign up for selective service when I graduated from High School,” he explained. “I actually always thought of the military as an ennobling and you know, honorable option.”
Sorry this statement is just not true. Obama implied that he signed up for the Selective Service right after graduating from High School. But really this was not possible. The Selective Service on March 25, 1975 had been terminated for sign up by President Gerald Ford. On July 2, 1980 President Jimmy Carter re-established the Selective Service registration requirement for all male citizens born on or after January 1, 1960. Obama graduated from high school in June 1979. He was out of school over a full year before he registered for the selective service, so technically he did not register after graduating from high school he did something else for that year? This is the problem with Obama, nothing is clear. Most of his records are not available to examine, his facts are blurred with other evidence.

Posted by: Mike | September 7, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm

Irma, for almost like a year, i have known you as a vocal Hillary Clinton supporter. I know you are Hispanic and I understand your not supporting Obama but Mccain? You can do better. Hispanics are one the hardest working Americans but they will do themselves a great dis-service supporting Mccain. Mccain that scampered to his base by leaving the hispanics in the middle of the ocean when he needed to please his base. I would prefer somebody who never supported me than someone who wll dump me in the middle of the ocean so as to please a collect-few of people.

Posted by: eyes like summer sun | September 7, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

I’m going to vote for Republicans because I like to reward failure.
… and I think Obama intends to enslave the white race too.

Posted by: rewardfailure | September 7, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm

Eyes like summer sun; I never stated I support McCain, however I understand the support for McCain. I don’t judge the support, I judge Political strategy. I detest strategy that insults multitudes of people in order to promote one man.

Posted by: irma | September 7, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm

BTW; I am Puerto Rican and a descendent of slaves as well as latina; two very hard working groups. Don’t blame me for Obama’s “inspiration.” He inspires people to vote, well they’re doing that and all the insults and superiority will never inspire any result you are hoping for.

Posted by: irma | September 7, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm

I bet Palin’s daughter is going to have a mysterious “miscarriage”.
Just a thought…

Posted by: conspiracy | September 7, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm

All you who support McCain… well, you are going to get four more years of the same policies that are dumping this country into the crapper: Economics, International Diplomacy, Immigration.. whatever. You name the issue, the policies of the last eight years have stunk.
Pretty soon we will be a once-superpower-now-irrelevant country. Go ahead, vote McCain.. .you’ll get what you deserve.

Posted by: getwhatyoudeserve | September 7, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm

That’s a good point about war-time president.
The last GOOD war-time president that was a republican was LINCOLN, who also had no military background. In fact, some might argue, myself included, that he was one if not the greatest president ever. And yes, HE WAS A REPUBLICAN, Just goes to show you that with a really good president, party affiliation does not matter.
Now, we look at presidents and their performance in wars America was involved in.
LINCOLN – Republican – Led us into a horrible but necessary war to stop Southern secession and to abolish slavery. While very bloody and tragic, the results were what makes us a great nation to this very day.
WILSON – Democrat – Led us into World War I. Another horrible war, which American presence help to end victoriously, putting evil at bay, albeit only for a short period, but also putting America on the map as a super power. Wilson’s and America’s contributions to the world are felt to this very day.
ROOSEVELT – Democrat – Led us into World War II. One of the worst wars of all time, where American presence once again saved the world from the forces of evil, Roosevelt and the US military solidified America’s position as super power and savior of the planet. The accomplishments of WWII are too numerous to outline here. Go read about it more for your further edification.
EISENHOWER – Republican WITH Military background (And an astounding back ground at that!). Oversaw the Korean War, which was actually a “conflict” and whose terms are still not resolved, leaving the conflict open-ended, stalled in quagmire and where America could claim no victory after suffering horrible losses and casualties. The war has left the peninsula of Korea divided to this very day. A failure for America od the biggest magnitude, as it represents America’s first defeat against the horrors of communism.
NIXON – Republican – Oversaw the regrettable defeat and surrender of American Military forces against Vietnam and the evil forces of communism FOR A SECOND TIME! Accomplishments were so unfortunate that many Americans suffered needlessly as POWs, disabled or lost their lives with no tangible results. Today we actually see the Bush administration WORKING with the Vietnamese to help corporate America set up shop there to give the people of Vietnam American jobs! Ouch!
BUSH I – Republican – Led us into the rescue of Kuwait and the first invasion of Iraq. While the accomplishments of the American military were formidable in freeing Kuwait, the military was kneecapped in resolving the Iraq “issue”, leading us to the military quagmire America finds itself stuck in to this very day. A resounding success at one end and a bitter failure at the other, costing America countless casualties and inflicting horrible death toll on innocent people while DESTROYING America’s heroic image as super power and world leader.
BUSH II – Republican – Led us into wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, where the military has yet to achieve the end results of victory, peacekeeper or any other tangible results, managing only to eliminate Saddam Hussein up until now. The most villainous leader of evil of modern times, Osama bin Laden still evades American justice. The results we live this very day: A divided American public, a horrible economy and rabid Democrats and Republicans alike calling for the blood of the opposite side in an election, readily seen on this blog and countless others across the internet.
In conclusion, we clearly see that Democrats, NOT Republicans, have successfully lead us into and out of successful, necessary and relevant conflicts with tremendous strategy, implementation of the US military and positive world benefits in the outcome.
God Bless America! Americans Unite!

Posted by: HUH | September 7, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm

Yeah must admit it that we Obama supporters maybe we over-reacted in some issues but it can be expected when they were both history-making candidates. All the same, its nice to read your views again, have a pleasant day and thanks for your response.

Posted by: eyes like summer sun | September 7, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm

I’m a USMC vet of the first iraq war.
Although I like McCain being that he is the soldier, i’m voting Obama. McCain, Bush, and all their neocon friends just don’t understand that their actions are causing more and more people around the world to view America as a target. They have made more terrorists in the world, not fewer. They talk like cowboys, but they don’t think. And after 6 years, where is Bin-Laden? Our country needs new leadership.
Obama ’08

Posted by: vet | September 7, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm

Thank you EYESLIKESUMMERRAIN, discussion over insults sure makes things a little less heated and reactionary huh? It was nice interacting with you too.

Posted by: irma | September 7, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm

OOOOPs. SUMMERSUN.

Posted by: irma | September 7, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm

Obama did graduate from high school in Hawaii in 1979, but he could not have registered for Selective Service then. Nobody could. In 1975, President Gerald Ford terminated the Military Selective Service Act. It was not reinstated until July 1980. That is one year after Obama graduated from high school. In July 1980, Obama was no longer living in Hawaii. He was living in Los Angeles.

Posted by: Karen | September 7, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm

Obama did graduate from high school in Hawaii in 1979, but he could not have registered for Selective Service then. Nobody could. In 1975, President Gerald Ford terminated the Military Selective Service Act. It was not reinstated until July 1980. That is one year after Obama graduated from high school. In July 1980, Obama was no longer living in Hawaii. He was living in Los Angeles.

Posted by: Karen | September 7, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm

What lies, or perhaps a misplaced memory from the drug stupors. He didn’t sign up for the selective service when he graduated in 1979. The facts are that on March 25, 1975, Pres. Gerald Ford signed Proclamation 4360, Terminating Registration Procedures Under Military Selective Service Act, eliminating the registration requirement for all 18-25 year old male citizens. Then on July 2, 1980, President Jimmy Carter signed Proclamation 4771, Registration Under the Military Selective Service Act, retroactively re-establishing the Selective Service registration requirement for all 18-26 year old male citizens born on or after January 1, 1960.

Posted by: lordy lordy | September 7, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm

Obama asserted in a Colorado Springs speech that the U.S. needs a “civilian national security force” that would be as powerful, strong and well-funded as the half-trillion dollar Army, Marines, Navy and Air Force. In the July 2 speech in Colorado Springs, Obama insisted the U.S. “cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set.”He continued, “We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.””Big Brother had nothing on the Obamas,” said IBD. “They plan to herd American youth into government-funded re-education camps where they’ll be brainwashed into thinking America is a racist, oppressive place in need of ’social change.’

Posted by: HP Boston | September 7, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm

Sure Senator, The nerve of this phony guy….I guess doing drugs at that time disqualified him….Or better yet maybe Ayers told him we can do better things in the U.S. like bomb our government buildings together.
Senator you are the woulda,coulda,shoulda candidate.
Can we finally call this guy stupid!!

Posted by: sowhat | September 7, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm

Oh look – 14 of the 15 stories “On the Radar” are about Obama – what a big surprise!!! And not even one of them is about how he’s now showing how dumb his plan for the economy is since he’s now saying, again what people want to hear, that he won’t stop the Bush tax cuts right away…
That’s just like how he was thinking of joining the military!!! Just another example of him saying what people want to hear…

Posted by: anon | September 7, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm

Did everyone forget Obama’s line in the early campaign? If I am elected president I will end the war in Iraq and pull our troops out in 90 days?? And now I will end the war responsibly? Flip Flop?

Posted by: Cindy | September 7, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm

Cindy,
So after he wins, how do you want him to end the war? Irresponsibly or responsibly???
Seems like a pretty stupid question, but you go ahead and try answering it any way, as practice,

Posted by: DUH | September 7, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm

logistically it would take approx. 5+ years to get everyone back home. troops, equip. etc. etc.
We would end the war in victory not retreat.
DUH?

Posted by: Cindy | September 7, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm

Obama did graduate from high school in Hawaii in 1979, but he could not have registered for Selective Service then. Nobody could. In 1975, President Gerald Ford terminated the Military Selective Service Act. It was not reinstated until July 1980. That is one year after Obama graduated from high school. In July 1980, Obama was no longer living in Hawaii. He was living in Los Angeles.
Posted by: Karen | Sep 7, 2008 4:30:52 PM
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There you go Karen – Good sleuth work!
And that proves??? Oh, that he is mistaken about dates 20 years ago or you are. Who cares?
I know you don’t remember this, but when did you have your first period? Sex for the first time? First break up with a boy friend? Yeah, OK

Posted by: DUH | September 7, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm

Cindy,duh,
So after he wins, how do you want him to end the war? Irresponsibly or responsibly???
Answer?

Posted by: DUH | September 7, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm

Cindy duh,
Also, what’s your military expertise based on here when YOU state it will take 5 years?
Surely you are basing this on previous wars America won? Your own military experience when YOU won wars?
Oh, you READ it somewhere…OK, good

Posted by: DUH | September 7, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm

I find it amusing that everyone posting here assumes that they know THE truth about the other side. Things are never as simple as they look, especially when we’re arrogant enough to think that we’re always right.

Posted by: Andy | September 7, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm

Obama asserted in a Colorado Springs speech that the U.S. needs a “civilian national security force” that would be as powerful, strong and well-funded as the half-trillion dollar Army, Marines, Navy and Air Force. In the July 2 speech in Colorado Springs, Obama insisted the U.S. “cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set.”He continued, “We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.””Big Brother had nothing on the Obamas,” said IBD. “They plan to herd American youth into government-funded re-education camps where they’ll be brainwashed into thinking America is a racist, oppressive place in need of ’social change.’

Posted by: HP Boston | September 7, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm

I’d rather have McCain for years than Hussein for 8 years!

Posted by: carolyn | September 7, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm

I said 5 plus years… I may not be an expert but I think 90 days was unrealistic.. and I’m not the one running for Commander in Chief. Where is Obama’s expertise? Apparently someone told him 90 days was logistically impossible. And thank you… you said the magic words…. “you read it somewhere.”
Thats the problem with all the Obama followers. These poor people are going to be let down terribly if he elected President. People cannot make up their own minds these days. Whatever is the trend or popular. Listened to what our candidates are saying….. straight out of their mouths. Obama shifts his statements according to what the people want to hear. I cannot wait until the debates.
By the way Duh, I come from a strong, proud military family presently serving overseas (Army and Air Force)!!

Posted by: Cindy | September 7, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm

Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Dean, Kennedy …
Four of the founders of the new Socialist Party of America (SPA)
They and the party will tell you what you like, what you can eat, where you will work.

Posted by: rodney | September 7, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm

Karen, this was very good work. Obama told all Americans that he registered for the selective service after high school in Hawaii. This just shows that he cannot remember events and timing clearly—-he did not register after high school in Hawaii because there was so selective service registration until after July 20, 1980 and he was not even living in Hawaii. What comes out of his mouth must be taken with a grain of salt because he cannot get his events or times right.

Posted by: Mike | September 7, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm

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Cindy, don’t let these infantile jerks here get to you. It’s none of their business when you had your first period, first had sex or whatever.
DUH is only asking that because he thinks he may be your long lost little boy. His picture is on milk cartons.
Obammy would have done well in the military. They have plenty of “company organizers”.
Palin – 08

Posted by: LarryMan | September 7, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm

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vet, I was a Marine before you were born and I learned that a Marine never quits and is not a pu**y.
Therefore, I think that you are really Jack Murtha posting incognito. And we all know that he is a gutless marine (purposefully uncapitalized).
So if you truly intend to vote for Obammy ————–
Drop and give me 20.
Palin – 08

Posted by: LarryMan | September 7, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm

“I had to sign up for selective service when I graduated from High School”
Joe is correct. Obama the LIAR did not have to sign up for selective service at least until July 1980. “I graduated in 1979″ says Obama. So let’s go media. report on this like you reported on the ebay story.

Posted by: geevill | September 7, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm

McCain’s colors- RED, WHITE & BLUE
Obama’s colors- yellow and pink(o)

Posted by: Ed | September 7, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm

THIS JUST IN is parroting dailykos talking points to claim the GOP stole flags that Obama and the DNC threw in the trash. BUSTED!

Posted by: geevill | September 7, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! Now, time for a beer!

Posted by: Christie | September 7, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm

he couldnt have passed the drug test…remember he was doing cocaine in those years, he told that to all those school children,,he was experimenting with illegal drugs

Posted by: tom | September 7, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm

RE: McCain’s colors- RED, WHITE & BLUE
Obama’s colors- yellow and pink(o)
Amen, Ed.

Posted by: Christie | September 7, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm

I got a job washing dishes at the local golf club when I was 14 (my parents didn’t belong). I too thought about joining the military, but when I got out of high school I had $11,000 saved up so I thought I would try college until the money ran out. Got out of college in four years, but decided to work for “big business.”

Posted by: Lover Not Fighter | September 7, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm

We all had to sign up for Selective Service you bofo! That’s not “considering to join the military.” Obama is clearly losing it. Why oh why did we not pick Hillary as our nominee?
Posted by: Joe | Sep 7, 2008 12:04:18 PM
Remember, Joe…Obama wasn’t “elected” the nominee, he was “selected” by the DNC, Pelosi, Dean, Reid and the StupidDelegates!
McCain/Palin 08!
“Country First!”

Posted by: david from texas | September 7, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm

At least John Edwards had an affair with a woman.

Posted by: rodney | September 7, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm

Fearmongering Republicans are NOT patriotic because Bush has flushed this country down the crap hole and left us with enough debt for the next two generations… when you idiots vote for Mccane I trust you can accpet all the economic suffering to come while he chooses one of his seven houses to relax in with all his republican cronies who continue to maintain the rich 2% status quo while the middle class continues to suffer… The Rev Wright and Ayers is soo damn tired.. try Palins husband wanting Alaska to be independent… your hypocrisy is phenomenal… we are STUPID, STUPID, STUPID… Mccane shovels the bullshit and you idiots swallow it like mindless fools… Country first… nah.. just spin the bullshit an watch how dumb they are.. I just need to do like Rove and Say anything… they are stupid and would believe it… FACTS people, just the facts.. YES THERE ARE WEAPONS of MASS DESTRUCTION.. mY HEART pains at the continued loss of life for an Idiot president, a republican party that “JUST DOES NOT GET IT” and all the fools who STILL gonna follow them… McSame, Palin, what a load of crap… They know we are stupid, stupid, so they got a shot no matter what… heaven help us in November…

Posted by: JOHNF | September 7, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm

Obama said he signed up AFTER he went to high school in Hawaii. He did. You cannot sign up before the age of 18. Obama went to high school in Hawaii. He signed up AFTER that time, NOT before, as it would be impossible.
Next you’ll have us believe that Obama denies the sky is blue, because he mentions the rain on a cloudy day, when ther’s no blue sky in sight.
Obviously these patheticpoints are moot in trying to convince us that you Republicans are terrified of Obama and will stop at nothing to grasp at meaningless straws to convince us of your terror.
Don’t be afraid of Obama. He’s not a bad guy. in fact, you should all be thanking GOD that Hillary is out of the equation! I know I do!
Count your blessings my children.
Anyway, the point about asking you insignificant questions about what you can remember 10, 20 or 30 years ago is just to show you that some relevant info gets clouded in time.
Obama did sign up after high school in Hawaii, Can you show that he signed up before??? No, The End.
Also, THIS JUST IN, that is a hysterical parody on recent highlights in the campaigns!
I can imagine it is obviously a parody, as it was intended.
Ironically, Republicans here were already running into damage control over the humorous, air lightening story! Well done!
Chicken little, THE SKY IS FALLING!!!
Republicans, RUN FOR YOUR LIVES, OBAMA IS COMING!
He’s that pinko commie flag tossin’ gay boy with roots in Islam and a hand in everyone’s pockets from the south side of Chicago!!! GOD HELP US, HA HA HA HA!

Posted by: DUH | September 7, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm

Fearmongering Republicans are NOT patriotic because Bush has flushed this country down the crap hole and left us with enough debt for the next two generations… when you idiots vote for Mccane I trust you can accpet all the economic suffering to come while he chooses one of his seven houses to relax in with all his republican cronies who continue to maintain the rich 2% status quo while the middle class continues to suffer… The Rev Wright and Ayers is soo damn tired.. try Palins husband wanting Alaska to be independent… your hypocrisy is phenomenal… we are STUPID, STUPID, STUPID… Mccane shovels the bullshit and you idiots swallow it like mindless fools… Country first… nah.. just spin the bullshit an watch how dumb they are.. I just need to do like Rove and Say anything… they are stupid and would believe it… FACTS people, just the facts.. YES THERE ARE WEAPONS of MASS DESTRUCTION.. mY HEART pains at the loss of life for following an Idiot president and McBush and republican party that “just does not and WOULD NOT get it” and all the fools who STILL gonna follow them… McSame, Palin, what a load of crap… They know we are stupid, stupid, so they got a shot no matter what… heaven help us in November…

Posted by: johnF | September 7, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm

HUH…I noticed you didn’t mention Viet Nam…and who got us in there! Kennedy and Johnson started that war. Nixon eventually got us out!You have your own little view of history!

Posted by: Ed | September 7, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm

Here’s the topic Republicans,
SATAN is really SANTA spelled differently.
Discuss amongst yourselves…
HA HA HA HA!

Posted by: DUH | September 7, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm

I started to join the military but my terrorist friends and Militant wife figured we could destroy America easier this way LMAO this guy is so friggin stupid

Posted by: Country First | September 7, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm

Here’s the topic Demwits,
SATAN is really OBAMA spelled differently.
Discuss amongst yourselves…
HA HA HA HA!

Posted by: DoDo | September 7, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm

Duh…
Cindy,
So after he wins, how do you want him to end the war? Irresponsibly or responsibly???
Seems like a pretty stupid question, but you go ahead and try answering it any way, as practice,
Duh—You are the one that asked the stupid question. Cindy already told you that Obama had previously stated that he would pull the troops out in 90 days. When Obama found out that the majority of Americans thought that was not the right thing to do, he THEN said that he would end the war responsibly.
Maybe for practice you can try remembering what somebody else has said before you jump in and make a fool of yourself. It’s like when Obama said Iran was a tiny country and not a serious threat. Then later he said Iran was dangerous. So your not the only one that can’t remember what was said. Obama can’t even remeber what HE says. Try to practice that memory of yours until NOV. 4th.

Posted by: carolyn | September 7, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm

Ed,
JFK was not around long enough to resolve the matter. Small matter of being dead and all. I’d rather remember Kennedy as the guy that bagged Marilyn, got us racing to the moon and left us dreaming of greatness to this very day!
Johnson’s exit strategy was annihilated once he left office. We will never know how he would have ended things.
NIXON began the secret war, lying to the American public while ESCALATING that war into the misery history records it as.
Try harder/ Make America work!
God Bless America! Americans Unite!

Posted by: HUH | September 7, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm

Dear Dodo,
I know you are but what am I?
I’m rubber, you’re glue…
HA HA HA HA

Posted by: DUH | September 7, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm

“HUH…I noticed you didn’t mention Viet Nam…and who got us in there! Kennedy and Johnson started that war. Nixon eventually got us out!You have your own little view of history!”
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Actualy it was Ike who first got us involved in Viet Nam. Revbiew your history.

Posted by: Thinking | September 7, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm

HUH! No disrespect to JFK or LBJ…..

Posted by: DoDo | September 7, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm

DUH
Unfortunately, when a person lies as many times as Obama has lied, even a truth now and then is difficult to believe!

Posted by: PUMA for Palin | September 7, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm

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JohnFU, want to tell us just how Bush “flushed the country down the crap hole”???? McCain’s going to cause economic suffering???
The ONLY reason we are suffering is because of high gas prices, THE ONLY REASON. When people have to spend $75 to fill up, they buy less food, don’t eat out, less clothes for kids, don’t buy drugs ….. sorry.
But you get the picture. It’s a domino effect that impacts every single part of every person.
That is why democrats are so smart. They keep the gas prices artifically high and, OH YEAH, blame it on that damn Bush. And mindless idiots cannot see past their 50 IQ and suck it up. Anybody like that here?
YOUR heart pains??? Guess you weren’t in NY 9/11/01. Guess you didn’t see the people diving off the 83rd floor head first into the pavement. Yes, believe it or not, PEOPLE DIED that day, many people, many innocent people.
So since Bush went after them over there, can you tell me just how many terrorists strikes we have had here? Take your time, I will wait…….
You did say one thing completely right. WE (that is, you) ARE STUPID.
Thanks man.
Palin – 08

Posted by: LarryMan | September 7, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm

HUH…Johnson had an exit strategy??!!
We agree for sure on one thing… JFK was boinkin’ Marilyn…and for that I salute him!!! Lucky dead bastard

Posted by: Ed | September 7, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm

carolyn
I don’t think your sticking words in my mouth is what I intended or said. I also on the same note feel you are not capable nor qualified to answer for Cindy.
The point is, most Americans hate the war. Read any newspapers lately?
I personally hate that my brothers die there every day fighting for the lies and financial gain of Bush and a few of his buddies. This is NOT an honorable war America should have EVER fought.
As for ending it, I propose Blitzkrieg.
I kinda like your feistiness though. Are you really a woman? I ask only because most “females” here are not. The Republican base here feels they can accomplish more as gals than guys.
Let me know ;)

Posted by: DUH | September 7, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm

Thinking not…go and review it yourself. Ike only sent military advisers. JFK was the one who escalated the thing into a full blown conflict!

Posted by: Ed | September 7, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm

Obama: If you actively considered the military, and didn’t join because you felt nothing significant was going on, please tell us why you didn’t consider the Iranian Hostage Crisis an “active military conflict?”

Posted by: EJH | September 7, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm

Ed,
I am glad we were able to find common ground!
Peace brother!

Posted by: HUH | September 7, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm

OK, so now Obama is not going to rescind the Bush tax cuts and not raise taxes…. ” The surge will not work”….. “I didn’t think that the Iraqis would find a political solution”… “I registered for the draft in 1979″ What the heck is going on here??

Posted by: Manitu | September 7, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm

Ed,
BTW, IKE is linked to the Korean conflict. I left him out of the Vietnam thing.
IKE was one of the great guys. God Bless him!
We’re still brothers on the Marilyn thing though!

Posted by: HUH | September 7, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm

“Thinking not…go and review it yourself. Ike only sent military advisers. JFK was the one who escalated the thing into a full blown conflict!”
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Only sent Military Advisers. LOL How do you think it started then. We made the commitment to pick a side in a Civil war, and made it a national threat, under Ike. Yes Ike did this. It became a full blown thing under Johnson, not JFK , and it caused Johnson to decide not seek reelection in 1968.

Posted by: Thinking | September 7, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm

Sad news for you libs…. Obama’s credentials for Pres are now a bigger issue than Iraq war. War? Aside from an occasional crazy, the war no longer exists. GUESS WHO WON – NO THANKS TO THE PELOSI LOSERS IN CONGRESS!!

Posted by: Manitu | September 7, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm

Just to remind Obama of the Iraq War De-Escalation Act of 2007 that he introduced: to stop the 2007 troop surge and to remove all combat forces by March 31, 2008.
It’s black on white, on record. Seems he has forgotten the bills he introduced himself.

Posted by: Donoke9_10 | September 7, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm

Obama joining the military is all very well and good.The way to hell is paved with good intentions. But McCain actually did join the military. Which one do you think knows more about the horrors of war and how to prevent them? Not Obama.

Posted by: jschmidt | September 7, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm

Manitu,
America won. At the great expense of our fighting men and women who many sacrificed all for us to sit here with potty mouths arguing about these civilian issues.
God Bless them! I Love You Guys!
Thank You!

Posted by: HUH | September 7, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm

and Obama alluded to McCains not voting for the veteran bill. Of course he didn’t explain that it was money that was the reason. Do you give people a pension for 2 years of service? No But the Dems have the bottomless hole for expenses called the taxpayer and they never have to look like the bad guy with money. They can just give it away. McCain tries to hold the line on pensions and he gets ridiculed. McCain has always supported veterans causes but in this case the pensions were unreasonable after such a short service time.

Posted by: jschmidt | September 7, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm

“Aside from an occasional crazy, the war no longer exists. GUESS WHO WON”
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Who is Crazy? Why are our troops still there? If it was a war against the terrorists, then why are we still in Afganistan? why is bin Laden still around? Why is our Military streached to the point of breaking? Why is the Airforce complainig about the need to replace the aircraft that is being worn down by this war? Why has Bush just recently decided that we can not draw down more troops? Why are we still spending 10 billion a month there?
Won? When?

Posted by: Thinking | September 7, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm

Thinking
RE. Vietnam. We were a member of SEATO at that time. And it was a time when our leaders had a funny notion that we needed to honor our commitments. This was also a time of the cold war in which communism was a threat to the whole world. I did not vote for Kennedy, but he really makes Obama, Pelosi and company look like a bunch of losers.

Posted by: Manitu | September 7, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm

He said this, she did that, blah blah blah…
This is all irrelevant and moot.
No one here will EVER convince the other side into changing their minds.
Venting frustration and anger is fine, and we all do it well here.
I suggest that regardless of who becomes President that we send a strong message to that person of what real change WE want as Americans.
Obviously both parties agree that the last 8 years could have, should have been a lot better than they were.
Attacking each other always sparks the wrong response.
“He started it” “No, she started it” and so on.
I will cross the aisle any time to work with my brothers to find common ground, no matter how painful.
Can you do the same? Or are you “entitled” to your position, upon the great towers of alabaster?
Disrespecting ourselves by disrespecting others will only keep the status quo alive.
Remember, both sides want CHANGE!

Posted by: DUH | September 7, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm

Thinking
your knowledge of history is utterly appalling. Home schooled?

Posted by: rodney | September 7, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm

DUH
Please try to construct a coherent paragraph?

Posted by: rodney | September 7, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm

BTW, http://www.israelinsider.com posted an article that Obama would be served his court papers of the lawsuit filed by Philip J. Berg, Esq. regarding Obama’s eligibility for presidency.
When I googled Philip J. Berg, I also found a related link saying that:
“The DNC and Barack Obama were served on Sep. 4, 2008 with the legal documents, Civil Action No.08-CV-4083. The DNC was served at 12:00 pm and Sen. Obama at 1:00 pm. The U.S. Attorney’s Office accepted service on behalf of the Federal Elections Committee on Aug.22,2008.”
Why is it that we haven’t heard anything about this from the American MSM? Instead they’re chasing the No.2 on the Republican ticket for stories about her pregnant daughter.
We already know that MSM are pro-Obama, but this reminds me of the John Edwards story that was reported by a tabloid and covered-up by MSM because they didn’t want Edwards’ voters to go to Hillary.

Posted by: Donoke9-10 | September 7, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm

Thinking.
You forgot to say Surge. What Surge? The Korean war ended in the early 50s – we still have troops there. Germany surrendered in 1945 – we still have troops there. Sounds like you libs are grasping for anything. BYE, BYE, BO

Posted by: Manitu | September 7, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm

Thinking
your knowledge of history is utterly appalling. Home schooled?
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Sure Rodney Point out where I was wrong.
Did Ike Commit us to South Vietnam? Did Ike send Military Advisers? Did we send more troops to defend the Military advisers?
Yes, Yes and Yes.
Appalling? you call it appalling without any defense of the statement?

Posted by: Thinking | September 7, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm

To quote Homer J.Simpson who has more brains than Barack Obama and Joe Biden Combined!!
” LOUSY DEMOCRATS”
MCCAIN/PALIN 2008
REAL AMERICANS NOT ANTI WAR IDIOTS UNITE

Posted by: MLBS | September 7, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm

Thinking.
Whether is was Ike or JFK – it was the right thing to do.

Posted by: Manitu | September 7, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm

“Thinking.
Whether is was Ike or JFK – it was the right thing to do. ”
Well gee the other Republican poster was saying that it was the Democrats who got us involved in a negative way.
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HUH…I noticed you didn’t mention Viet Nam…and who got us in there! Kennedy and Johnson started that war. Nixon eventually got us out! You have your own little view of history!”
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So I guess it was the right thing or the wrong thing to do for Republicans depending if you are attacking Democrats or defending Republicans.
I was there, I supported it as then as was pointed out, we had what was called commitment, but as most people then, I changed my mind about it.

Posted by: Thinking | September 7, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm

Obama is proving again and again that he can LIE without any problem.
Obama = Perpetual IIER

Posted by: JKan | September 7, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm

Thinking
your knowledge of history is utterly appalling. Home schooled?
Posted by: rodney | Sep 7, 2008 7:18:02 PM
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OMG!
History is the one topic MOST Americans fail at, and is also evidenced here by most. Funny thing is wikipedia is a few clicks away…
HA HA HA,
“rodney” was SO appalled! Poor baby

Posted by: DUH | September 7, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm

Thinking,
I wasn’t mentioning the fact about JFK, as it wasn’t a “conflict” at that point.
LBJ’s role cannot be defined because he wasn’t there to finish the job, one way or another.
NIXON on the other hand warped the war into an absurd tragedy, as history will show you.
I am SO APPALLED that you didn’t fugure the hierarchy out, LOLOL!

Posted by: HUH | September 7, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm

Thinking,
I wasn’t mentioning the fact about JFK, as it wasn’t a “conflict” at that point.
LBJ’s role cannot be defined because he wasn’t there to finish the job, one way or another.
NIXON on the other hand warped the war into an absurd tragedy, as history will show you.
I am SO APPALLED that you didn’t fugure the hierarchy out, LOLOL!
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Am sorry what the heck are you talking about?

Posted by: Thinking | September 7, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm

HUH-
I think if you check history- Nixon ended the war in Jan 1973- Johnson escalated the war with the Tonkin Gulf Resolutions. Might want to read this:
http://faculty.smu.edu/dsimon/Change-Viet4.html

Posted by: jschmidt | September 7, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm

Thinking,
I wasn’t mentioning the fact about JFK, as it wasn’t a “conflict” at that point.
LBJ’s role cannot be defined because he wasn’t there to finish the job, one way or another.
NIXON on the other hand warped the war into an absurd tragedy, as history will show you.
I am SO APPALLED that you didn’t fugure the hierarchy out, LOLOL!
***************************************
“Am sorry what the heck are you talking about?”
Posted by: Thinking | Sep 7, 2008 8:03:54 PM
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In Response to;
HUH…I noticed you didn’t mention Viet Nam…and who got us in there! Kennedy and Johnson started that war. Nixon eventually got us out! You have your own little view of history!”
Posted by: Thinking | Sep 7, 2008 7:53:45 PM
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Did you not make that query???
I am SO APPALLED at your attention span!
In other words, answering why JFK and LBJ were left out, etc. Never mind, I see smoke coming from those gears perhaps…
Maybe “thinking” is a dangerous thing in the wrong hands?
Hmmmm…..appalling, appalling
As Marlon Brando whispered it best in a wonderful war movie…
“The horror, the horror…”

Posted by: HUH | September 7, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm

I liked LBJ, although I did not vote for him. But, it was LBJ’s lack of commitment to winning that war, that caused it’s continuation. THAT LACK OF HIS COMMITMENT WAS CAUSED BY HIS INDECISION WHICH WAS CAUSED BY HIS CAVING IN TO THE LIB CRAZIES OF THAT ERA. KENNEDY, GOLDWATER OR PRESENT DAY BUSH WOULD HAVE FINISHED IF OFF A HECK OF A LOT SOONER – WITH VICTORY.

Posted by: Manitu | September 7, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm

LOL! How does this guy take HIMSELF seriously??? What a joke NoBama is. Our country cannot afford 4 more years of a joke and empty suit for president.
Plan A: Hillary
Plan B: McCain

Posted by: Mom4Hillary | September 7, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm

jschmidt,
That’s correct and is not in conflict with what I have stated. I think you might want to check history and learn about the NIXON years in the war, specifically the secret aspects and the escalation that resulted from Nixon stating that he was in negotiations with the Viet Cong when in reality he had expanded the war into Laos and Cambodia and intensified the bombardment of the north, etc…
All irrelelvant here. The point of the post is still clear; Republican presidents don’t know how to win wars. The last one was won by a Republican presidentin 1865. You know, the Civil War, where, OH, never mind….

Posted by: HUH | September 7, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm

This joke was told by McCain in public during the 2000 campaign:
“Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly?
Because Janet Reno is her father.”
And now he has the nerve to get all indignant if anyone asks any questions about Palin’s daughter.
I agree families should be off limits — and Obama made it clear that he agrees on this too.
But Michelle Obama was dragged through the wringer. And McCain clearly feels free to make jokes at a teenage girl’s expense. Doesnt’ anyone notice the double standard?
Anyone who tells a joke like that has got to be a jerk. I’m voting Obama.

Posted by: Maude | September 7, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm

Obama saying he would increase the military is absolutely the opposite of what he said in a taped interview during the last year where he said he would downsize the military and shrink our weapons budget drastically. This would leave the U.S. very defenseless. Obama is a habitual liar.

Posted by: concerneramerican | September 7, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm

Mom4Hillary,
Appaerntly you didn’t get the memo yet? This is not the election. Remeber your thoughts and cast your vote at that time.
We’ve already heard that one about as many times as we have dollars tied up in national debt to China.
Go try and fool someone else, like your self, somewhere else.
I am sorry,
That’s not what I mean to say.
Mom4Hillary,
That’s so true. I agree with you 100%. You are so right abouth that.
Thank you so much for providing that thought provoking, deep commentary about Obama.
I think now that you’ve posted that, the entirety of the American public can rest at ease and make their decision. I know I can!
Thank you, you are wonderful.Good thought provoking material!

Posted by: DUH | September 7, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm

HUH
As far as I know I was not Talking to you but ED who was Made a comment to you. I have not read your posts.
I picked up the thread from:
Ed | Sep 7, 2008 6:32:59 PM
He made that Statement not me,
It seemed to me that Ed was blaming the Viet Nam War on the Democrats. I was merely pointing out that that was incorrect.
It has nothing to do with Attention span, but everything to do with that I was not responding to you.
I guess I should have said Ed first.
Sorry for the confusion.

Posted by: Thinking | September 7, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm

concerneramerican,
What Obama meant id he is going to downsize, or shrink, the weapons the soldiers have to use.
Mini weapons are easier to carry.
There, I hope that’s all cleared up for you now.
Thanks for stopping by.
Please let the next one waiting at the door in as you leave so we can hear their relevat comment next.
Thanks.

Posted by: DUH | September 7, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm

Thinking,
Can you please tell me what you are talking about?
JUST KIDDING!
Cool!

Posted by: HUH | September 7, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm

Huh- I think history shows that Nixon ended the war. January 23, 1973- Argue with history not with me.

Posted by: jschmidt | September 7, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm

Maude: I remember when McCain said those nasty things about little chelsea. I hope he has asked forgiveness for that type of behavior.
I don’t think I want a man with so little heart in charge of our country. If McCain is willing to call a young girl nasty names in front of the whole country…

Posted by: Joan | September 7, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm

I WAS AGAINST IT BEFORE I WAS FOR IT!! LOL

Posted by: CURIOUS INDEP | September 7, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm

jschmidt,
Are you really under the impression that I am arguning with you?
Hmmm,
Is this a typical thing to read something in plain English, ignore it and then make an obtuse comment in complete irrelevance to what was stated, reading onto the statement ideas that were not presented?
I don’t think I ever disputed when the war ended.
I just mentioned the facts leading up to that inevitable, infamous day in American history.
However, you go ahead and feel free to continue as if I did not just write this and proceed according to whatever moves you.
The point you need to take with you is a simlpe one, designed for the simplicity of the ever increasingly copmplex mind of folks like yourself.
REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTS DON’T WIN WARS. EXCEPTING LINCOLN, OF COURSE.
I’ll go ahead and make a simple post, devoted to just that single concept, so perhaps other folk, suffering the same condition as yourself may comprehend that idea and use it when deciding the next president.

Posted by: HUH | September 7, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm

REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTS DON’T WIN WARS.
(EXCEPTING LINCOLN, THE MAN!)

Posted by: HUH | September 7, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm

Just think, Obama would be our first black gay Muslim president. Now that would be a first.

Posted by: rodney | September 7, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm

Huh- apoligizes- I get what you are saying about winning wars not ending wars. Nixon did indeed end it but not win it. Of course the last official war was WWII. Oh and you may not count it but Reagan won Grenada.

Posted by: jschmidt | September 7, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm

Sarah Palin strongly believes that Men must be paid MORE than women! Sarah Palin also wants to force women/girls that are victims of rape/incest to carry such fetuses resulting from the said rape/incest to full term, then deliver the baby – irrespective of the will of the victim or even her age. And to think that women are cheering Sarah Palin from the rooftops as the poster girl of womens rights who will spectacularly smash through that presidential/Vice presidential glass ceiling.
Some folks wrongly think that being a woman she will moderate or help turn McCain around from his opposition to equal pay to women. Like this statement one Dave from Baltimore, posted on another site:”I hope Palin breaks with McCain on equal pay for equal work – it would pave the way to a better future for her four children and grandson.”
Are you kidding me?!!! Gov. Palin is even more hardcore in her opposition to equal pay for WOMEN, than is McCain. Sarah Palin believes that women must be paid LESS than men – no ifs and buts about it. Period.
McCain, when pushed about his vote AGAINST giving women equal pay as men, has tried to flip-flop saying that ‘if women are to aspire to equal pay, they must first aspire to achieve college eduction”.
In other words, in McCain’s world, only college educated women shall be extended equality with men in terms of pay/wages. Sarah Palin’s views about (rather against) equal pay for women are very straightforward, and cast in stone: Women must get paid LESS than men. College educated or not, when it comes to pay parity, women are less than men. Coming from a Woman herself, its ironic, but true!
Kind of like an Afro-American person advocating slavery and segregation of the black population!! Wierd isn’t it?
Strangely, Sarah Palin is being trumpeted as the symbol of a woman smashing through the glass ceiling!
(We are not even going into her strident opposition to abortion even if the pregnancy is a result of rape/incest, and the victim wants to abort the fetus. Sarah Palin believes that such rape/incest survivors must be forced to carry the fetus resulting from rape/incest to term, then deliver the baby. NO exceptions, no termination. If such a woman chooses to abort the baby, she commits a crime, and must be tried as a criminal and punished for opting to abort the fetus. Even if the pregnant female is a MINOR child, she would still have to deliver the baby.
Just so you know, several courts in the country have allowed visitation/parental rights to rapists and the parents or rapists to meet and bond with children born due to the said rape.
I shudder to even imagine what happens when victims of rape/incest are forced to bear the children resulting from the rape (one Sarah Palin’s wishes becomes the law), and then having to drop off the child at the rapists (child’s father) door for court sanctioned visits to dad. What would go through the mother’s mind? Would such rapists not molest these children all over again. What if this rapist rapes this child/daughter all over again…repeating this unbelievably grotesque cycle!!!!!!
Is this American women we are talking about or some burqa clad subjugated women from some Taliban country?!
Sam
setu.madhavan@gmail.com

Posted by: Sam | September 7, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm

Sam- do you have any documentation from the MSM to back up your claims about equal pay- not Daily Kos,MoveOn, Huffington or any of the leftist blogs.

Posted by: jschmidt | September 7, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm

There is a 22 degree earthquake comming to republican party.
Palin may be impeached from Alaska as goverenor…
Sept. 5 (Bloomberg) — Half of U.S. voters said first-term Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, the Republican vice presidential nominee, doesn’t have the experience needed to be an effective president, according to an ABC News poll.
The entire republican campaign is based on no factual facts,because they cannt give a list of any progress in USA
ECOMONY. The only words out of the past is death ,death and military. If there is one republican who is ready to stand uo and tell the american public . How many jobs have you created for USA citizens .
How many have you helped achieve home ownership..
HOW many Americans are better off then they where 8 years ago.
How have you managed the USA banking system to aviod a collaspe as when daddy Bush was in all savings and loans callaspe. and had be be bailed out . please if you have any self respect at all please explain all the wonderfull accomplishments you have completed for USA ecomony…
Her husband, Todd, twice registered as a member of the Alaskan Independence Party, a fierce states’ rights group …
This is not mccains agenda I smell huge conflict and party war down road of campain…for Republican party
First, she announced that her unmarried 17-year-old daughter, Bristol Palin, was pregnant. Among the other revelations:
—A private attorney is authorized to spend $95,000 of state money to defend her against accusations of abuse of power.
—Palin sought pork-barrel projects for her city and state, contrary to her reformist image.
—Her husband once belonged to a fringe political group in Alaska, with some members supporting secession from the United States.Palin could face impeachment if she is found guility of office abuse this would really be a railroad spike in republican party

Posted by: 360Group | September 7, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm

Public Allies is a Chicago organization of taxpayer-funded protesters. Barack Obama founded Public Allies in Chicago in 1992, and Michelle Obama became the executive director. The group uses taxpayer dollars to entice kids to sign up for Marxist indoctrination. The Public Allies paid members spend most of their time protesting and to despise this country. Public Allies teaches the young adults that work for them that America is a racist, oppressive place in need of “social change.” – (Hollywoodgrind.com, 2008), (publicallies.org, 2008)

Posted by: Norman | September 7, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm

360group-On the investigation of Palin-the Democratic chair of the states Judiciary committee is pushing this probe on Palin. Sound like a Democratic hatchet job on a Republican Governor.In a July 31 interview with CNBC, Palin defended the dismissal of Monegan, saying, “It is a governor’s prerogative, a right, to fill that Cabinet with members whom she or he believes will do best for the people whom we are serving.”Palin promised her full cooperation. KTUU reported that Wooten’s personnel file, which was released at his request, showed that Palin and her husband filed an unspecified number of complaints against him during the custody case. Court documents included an e-mail that Sarah Palin sent as a private citizen to the director of the troopers division in August 2005, accusing Wooten of drinking in his patrol car, “illegal hunting techniques,” firing a Taser at his young stepson and threatening to kill her father. An internal investigation, which dismissed many of the complaints. Wooten was, however, suspended for 10 days for shooting a moose and using the Taser on his stepson, a suspension that Monegan later reduced to five days.Wooten remains a state trooper, and the matter never came to wide public attention until last month, when Monegan accused Palin’s husband and gubernatorial staff of having leaned on him to fire the trooper.
Tasr’d his stepson- guy deserved to be fired
Palin had a 85% approval rate in Alaska which is 76% higher than Nancy Pelosi and Nancy is third in line for the Presidency. So talk to me again how Sarah Palin is not qualified. Sarah is more qualified than Obama.

Posted by: jschmidt | September 7, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm

I wonder if he thought of being a fireman or police man as well? What’s his point? Didn’t Hillary say the same thing? Why do these two feel the need to say they thought about joining the military, but never did?
Thousands of us considered and did. It wasn’t that difficult of a decision.

Posted by: Grand Old Party | September 7, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm

HE LIED !!!!!!!
The earliest he could have registered is July 1980, over 1 year after he graduated. He would of been in Harvard. Draft registration was not available for him until then. He is caught, and can’t weasel out of this. An insult to all veterans.

Posted by: Eric | September 7, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm

This guy is a world class liar, who thinks we are as stupid as he is, and will say ANYTHING to get elected.

Posted by: Michael Oberndorf | September 7, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm

This brother is either full of sh-t or he is on crack!

Posted by: mtr2311 | September 7, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm

“I graduated in 1979. The Vietnam War had come to an end. We weren’t engaged in an active military conflict at that point. And so, it’s not an option that I ever decided to pursue,” he said.
So, he would have enlisted had a war been being waged? Harrumph. BTW, the Vietnam War had ended over five years earlier when he was 12 or so. His statement really isn’t believable.

Posted by: KG | September 7, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm

Republicans don’t have intellegence of a kangaroo. They were unable to manage protection of USA and mantain
viable ecomony in USA. OBAMA is the only person who has phd in law ,and will be able to protect country and build ecomony . The republican party just does not have the education to
qualifications
There is a 22 degree earthquake comming to republican party.
Palin may be impeached from Alaska as goverenor…
Sept. 5 (Bloomberg) — Half of U.S. voters said first-term Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, the Republican vice presidential nominee, doesn’t have the experience needed to be an effective president, according to an ABC News poll.
The entire republican campaign is based on no factual facts,because they cannt give a list of any progress in USA
ECOMONY. The only words out of the past is death ,death and military. If there is one republican who is ready to stand uo and tell the american public . How many jobs have you created for USA citizens .
How many have you helped achieve home ownership..
HOW many Americans are better off then they where 8 years ago.
How have you managed the USA banking system to aviod a collaspe as when daddy Bush was in all savings and loans callaspe. and had be be bailed out . please if you have any self respect at all please explain all the wonderfull accomplishments you have completed for USA ecomony…
Her husband, Todd, twice registered as a member of the Alaskan Independence Party, a fierce states’ rights group …
This is not mccains agenda I smell huge conflict and party war down road of campain…for Republican party
First, she announced that her unmarried 17-year-old daughter, Bristol Palin, was pregnant. Among the other revelations:
—A private attorney is authorized to spend $95,000 of state money to defend her against accusations of abuse of power.
—Palin sought pork-barrel projects for her city and state, contrary to her reformist image.
—Her husband once belonged to a fringe political group in Alaska, with some members supporting secession from the United States.Palin could face impeachment if she is found guility of office abuse this would really be a railroad spike in republican party

Posted by: 360Group | September 8, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am

He wanted to join the military but he didn’t because the war was winding down?
Do you really think he would have joined if the war had not been winding down? What a bunch of double talk. It should not have made any difference if he really wanted to serve. Peactime service is important because the country needs to be prepared for war if necessary.

Posted by: KEN | September 8, 2008, 12:32 am 12:32 am

Serving in the military is not a prerequisite to be president. If he didn’t consider serving, I’d have more respect for him if he said so. But this new revelation that he considered joining strikes me as total pandering. I could be wrong, but there’s nothing in his history or past statements to support such an attitude.

Posted by: Billwood | September 8, 2008, 3:05 am 3:05 am

1979? Didn’t the Vietnam war end in ’75? I don’t think as a Freshman in high school, BO was thinking of war. He is lying.

Posted by: Mike | September 8, 2008, 3:08 am 3:08 am

Hmmm… while I did not read all the comments bcause most of them were boring and stupid, let me cut to the chase here.
Who gives a crap about Sarah Palin and her military service or lack thereof? She never made it an issue. However the teflon candidate Obama brought it up, so that makes his service or lack therof, very much fair game.
I think Robert Heinlein had the right idea when he described a society where NO ONE had the right to vote or hold public office til they had served a stint in the service. However, since we don’t have that sort of a society yet, I’d say that I prefer the McCain/Palin ticket where we have someone with a full career in the military (with executive experience), with a VP that is a supporter of the military and self-determination (with executive experience), vs. a candidate with nothing but shadows, doubts, lies and a distinct aversion to the truth in his past, with no executive experience, with a VP nomination that comes from one of the smallest states in the union, no service history, and again no executive experience, and only spent 4 YEARS working at a law firm before going into public office.
Who best represents the American people? A team that fought for us and experienced what it’s like to work for a living? Or a team of elitist snobs that have never broken a sweat in honest physical labor in their entire lives? I’m going with the former, and that is most certainly Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin.

Posted by: Greg | September 8, 2008, 3:40 am 3:40 am

Obama considered the military? What a joker (possibly liar) he is.
Instead he took his free ride on the Affirmative-Action Express..Chooo..Choooo….

Posted by: Sam Deakins | September 8, 2008, 4:22 am 4:22 am

Obama considered the military? FFS, HOW STUPID DO WE LOOK?
INFIDEL>

Posted by: Infidel | September 8, 2008, 5:12 am 5:12 am

I am a 3x combat veteran. The thing that bothers me on this is not that he didn’t serve, that’s OK we weren’t at war and we did have an all volunteer force. It the fact this is an obvious LIE (based on easy to check facts); it’s pandering and playing the electorate as fools. I am mad and very insulted — I’m voting McCain!

Posted by: EricF | September 8, 2008, 7:20 am 7:20 am

Tell me he’s kidding?
The reason many Clinton supporters will not vote for Obama is because they are embarrassed of him, his life, his unfair tactics and his beliefs. And they still don’t know all about him.
1. They don’t want a candidate that has been in a twenty year relationship with Reverend Wright and the Trinity United Church of Christ.
2. They don’t’ want a candidate that has a twenty year relationship with Father Pflaeger and refers to him as his compass in life
3. They don’t want a candidate that went to a church that supports Louis Farrakhan, an anti Semitic racist, that has led a rally of 20,000 Nation of Islam members to support Obama in Chicago
4. They don’t want to defend Black Liberation theology.
5. They don’t want a candidate that lies about his relationship with Tony Rezko, the Syrian Criminal that sold his property to Obama and supported his campaign.
6. They don’t want a candidate that could work with a domestic terrorist, William Ayers.
7. They don’t want a candidate that Hamas supports.
8. They don’t want a candidate that Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam support
9. They don’t want a candidate that has a wife that has just now realized she was proud of our country.
10. They don’t want a candidate that denies Florida and Michigan their voices
11. They don’t want a candidate that mentions 57 states in his speeches. 50 states in the USA and 57 states in the Nation of Islam (IOC website)
12. They don’t want a candidate that fights unfair and hyjacks Michigan delegate votes from his opponent.
13. They don’t want a candidate that is inexperienced, especially dealing with military issues.
14. They don’t want a candidate that considers it a loss to not to be able to attend his anti American, racist Church.
15. They don’t want a candidate that has a “non practicing” Muslim father, but avoids the entire discussion of his father.
16. They don’t’ want a candidate that won’t debate
17. They don’t’ want a candidate that misleads the youth with an ‘Obama girl and her behind in their face”
18. They don’t want a candidate that says he’s an African American and missed the MLK Remembrance Day and the Louisiana Black Caucus meeting
19. They don’t want a candidate that enjoys laughing at sexism.
20. They don’t want a candidate that switches his position on gun control, FISA, the war in Iraq and abortion issues.
21. They don’t want a candidate that showcases his daughters on TV shows.
22. They don’t’ want a candidate that has poor judgment..
23. They don’t’ want a candidate named; Barack Hussein Obama
24. He is embarrassing.
25. He scares them to death.

Posted by: al from nj | September 8, 2008, 8:04 am 8:04 am

regarding Sarah taking 6 years to finish college – MOST people take longer than 4 years because even with help paying for classes, books, and tuition, they still have to WORK at LEAST part time to pay their bills.
Also – is it possible that the ‘Ivy League’ colleges just give students a ‘pass’ if they fall in line with the liberal agenda? Do any of them actually have to pass courses like American History, Composition 101, micro biology, or spend a full year doing their student teaching for an education degree?

Posted by: Barbara | September 8, 2008, 8:26 am 8:26 am

Iran’s leadership has expressed “great pleasure” at the prospect of a Barack Obama victory in November, according to Menashe Amir, the Iranian-born head of Radio Israel’s Persian language service.
Iranian religious leaders said if Obama will enter the White House, then Islam will conquer the heart of the American nation
The Iranian leadership likes Obama “mainly because he is a Muslim,” according to Amir. His first name, Barack, comes from “al-baraq,” which is the name of the horse that Muslims believe Muhammad rode on his way to paradise. If he wins the election, Muslims will be very proud of such a conquest, such a win.

Posted by: GoUSA247 | September 8, 2008, 8:39 am 8:39 am

Two things: 1) if it’s ‘ennobling’, why would it matter whether the Viet Nam conflict was over or not and 2) why was there no mention of this in any of his memoirs? Seems awful convenient, at a time when he needs to emphasize some degree of patriotism and (possibly) ingratiate himself with the men and women of the Armed Forces, that he just now brings this up. Makes me further question his veracity and sincerity.

Posted by: gwp | September 8, 2008, 9:22 am 9:22 am

NOBAMA,,, NOSAMA,,, OR CHELSEA’S MOMMA,,,
I wanted to join the military,,,, this guy is such the talker,,, he will probably later come out and say “no. but what I really meant,,,”
Well we were in a conflict in 1979,,, I was in the military,,, the US Navy…. not only was the “cold war” in full bloom,,, but also in November 1979,,, Iran took our embassy hostage holding 52 Americans captive for a total of 444 days,,, into January of 1981… Within hours of the signing in of President Reagan… Yea,,, I floated around the Persian Gulf a lot in that time,,, onboard the GREAT aircraft carrier,,, THE USS MIDWAY!!!
It is too easy to look back and say “I wanted to join the military,,, BUT,,, ” that makes me sick,,, this guy has a gift of saying to anyone what they want to hear,,, TRUE or FALSE…
This is as bad as Mr. Obama making the remark on Mr. Bill O’Reilly’s show how the surge in Iraq” succeeded beyond wildest dreams”,,, another sick comment this man has made!!! It was only in July (July 15th,,, factually) that he made his comment,,, the Iraqi surge has hurt Americans interests,,, why would he even open his mouth like this BEFORE going to Iraq???
More dribble from Mr. Obama,,,
“In the 18 months since the surge began, the strain on our military has increased, our troops and their families have borne an enormous burden, and American taxpayers have spent another $200 billion in Iraq,” he said.
And in these days with video and video recorders,,, it is harder to say something and get away with it,,, Thank you, You Tube!!!
You can view more interesting video,,, coming straight out his mouth on You Tube!!!
If we are now electing our presidents based on the ability to make a good speech,,, maybe we should start recruiting from high school and college debate classes,,, we could get by with far less pay also….

Posted by: PGardner | September 8, 2008, 9:40 am 9:40 am

B. Hssein’s attempt to somehow link himself to the Vietnam war is comical. The Vietnam war ended in 1974. By 1979 it was almost a distant memory and no one would have considered joining the military with any thoughts of Vietnam in mind.

Posted by: Paul | September 8, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am

Mr. Obama,,, always wants to play the victim,,,, what a shame,,,
Mr. Obama was the one who brought up the race card also by him stating,, first it was,,, Oh,,, and by the way,,, did we mention he was black,,,, then it was Oh,,, and by the way,,, did we mention,,, he doesn’t look like the other presidents,,, Well here,,,, OH,,, AND BY THE WAY,,, DID WE MENTION,,, SHE IS,,, CUTE???? May God Bless Senator John & Cindy McCain and Gov Sarah & Todd Palin,,, and may our God continue to Bless America !!! McCain & Palin 08 !!!

Posted by: PGardner | September 8, 2008, 9:55 am 9:55 am

Palin put herself through school so it might have taken longer than an education payed for by the Muslims in Saudi Arabia! But with that said, Palin can debate without notes, speak clearly and has pretty ears where as NObama has large dumbbo ears, stutters when asked a question not scripted, and has proven to be an idiot.
Muslim madona of the press!!!

Posted by: krayon51 | September 8, 2008, 10:04 am 10:04 am

Ever notice how he has to lean his head to one side with that deer in the headlight look when asked a question. He has a hard time maintaining eye contact when he is lieing which is when his big ol lips are moving under that big ol hose between them big ol ears. He could make a fortune in a freak show if he ever gets tired of being the laughing stock of America!

Posted by: krayon51 | September 8, 2008, 10:10 am 10:10 am

Another lie.
Selective Service was NOT in effect in 1979.
It was stopped in 1973, and not reinstituted until Jul 1980.
Barack Hussein Obama is as much a coward and liar as Bill Clinton.

Posted by: Frank H | September 8, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am

I for one am thoroughly glad that obama didn’t decide to join the service. I would never have wanted him covering my ass. much less anybody elses. he’s not military material as for as i and my veteran buddies believe. he just doesnt have the right mindset. i make this statement based on what i have read about him and his comments and printed record of his deeds. it’s probably just a political ploy to make him look like he was ‘patriotic’ and was thinking about heeding the call to ‘protect the U.S. against any and all threats foreign and domestic’. if he had enlisted he probably would have joined the ranks of those dangerous and risky soldiers/sailors/marines that were fragged.
I was a U.S. Navy and Air Force Combat Vet of several years.

Posted by: michael gray | September 8, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am

George, George, George….a perfect follow up question to Obama’s statement he considered the millitary was to ask why he didn’t include this in his two books? Why didn’t you ask this…it was screaming for you to ask it? Didn’t someone prep you about his books?

Posted by: MplsTom | September 8, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am

Truth is Obama is showing signs of emotional dysfunction, just short of full blown mental illness. That’s why he leans his head to the right and stammers so much when answering unscripted questions. I agree, Hillary would have been the better candidate, at least she is just an angry leftist in search of a taste of the treasury. Obama is made evil by his black liberation philosophy and Muslim leanings.

Posted by: John K | September 8, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am

Gee! I registered with Selective Service in 1970. After all, it’s the law! And Viet Nam was still going on when they drew my number a year later. It was #15. The draft was suspended about a month after that, and Viet Nam ended in 1972. I was commissioned in the Army through the ROTC program in 1975 and served the next 11 years in an Active Dury capacity. If Mr. O wanted to serve his country, he could have done the same. He did not. He graduated in 1979. What else had happened by 1979? Let’s see, Carter had re-installed Khoeini in Iran and the Shah (our Ally) had been deposed; The Panama canal had been given away; the instant peace divident at the close of Viet Nam meant that a ‘massive’ military was no longer needed, and the Carter administration was actively dismantling it, and our intelligence community; and closer to where I was…(deployed as an Armored Cavalry officer in Germany) the Czech Air Force (part of the Warsaw Pact…remember them?) had crossed over int West German airspace by more than 60 miles and fired two air to air missiles at a US Army helicopter en route to perform aerial patrol along the West German – Czech border. The Carter Administration did nothing. That’s exactly what I expect Obama will do in a similar incident.
Electing Barry is the equivalent of giving Jimmy Carter a second term. Who cares if he registered with Selective Service? When I think of Barry serving, I simply see him riding in the tank instead of Michael Dukakis.
No difference. The MSM still refuses to ask him about his association with Khalid al Mansour, William Ayers, and Bernardine Dohrn, not to mention Tony Rezko. They ignore this just as they ignore the hanky panky with the Annenberg Challenge monies that Mr. O and Bill Ayers parcelled out. They won’t even ask about the sweetheart real estate deal Mr. O got on his $1.65 million home. Forget about Rev. Wright’s GD America comment. Find out what he taught about abortion. I will bet he wasn’t in favor of infanticide, as O is. The MSM won’t even ask him about statements he made in his own biography to the effect that when it finally comes doen to it, he’ll stand with the Muslims. I don’t say buy his book, but I do say check it out at the Library and read it. And don’t forget Hitler wrote what he wanted to do too!
’nuff said!

Posted by: BobinHouTX | September 8, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am

I hope you all are enjoying this silly little debate over him considering joining the military…who really cares…what does it have to do with anything? All I can say is, I had more money in my pocket after everything was paid eight years ago than I do now. I know I could buy everything I needed without worrying if I had enough money for gas. The bottom line is, over the last eight year the republicans have lied about everything and they have used fear to control simple minded Americans. The two smartest people in politics…Rove and Cheney. They can get you suckers to believe anything….even after evidence shows they lied!!! When are you guys going to deal with that?

Posted by: Tell the Truth | September 8, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm

It is very clear that the Media is letting Obama off the hook repeatedly,instead of pursuing the truth on our behalf.I want to know why he didn’t want to serve in any capacity in the U.S. military during peacetime?I also want to know if his recreational drug use included L.S.D..If so did he ever O.D. or have a bad trip? Did he ever deal drugs on any scale?

Posted by: John P. | September 8, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm

Actually, Lincoln DID have some military experience. He was elected a captain in the militia during the Black Hawk War of 1832. While he did not see real action, he did command troops and did come across farmers who had been killed by Indians.

Posted by: Bob Lincoln | September 8, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm

He makes it sounds that being Nam was over with that was the reason he did not join. There is nothing like a wanna-be warrior.

Posted by: dornooc | September 8, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm

If only there was a war to fight, the
” Chosen One ” would have joined?? This guy is the gift that just keeps giving. For all of his supposed intelligence he sure says an awful lot of stupid things.

Posted by: Ray, Concord, Ohio | September 8, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
What gets me about military hating liberals is they can’t see the big picture.
Back when I was in the Marines, a black guy kinda befriended me who was on the post boxing team. In the morning after chow, a bus would come by, pick him up, and he would go off “training” all day.
We then went about our usual day. When we would come in from the field, he would be laying on his bunk waiting for us.
It’s what I can’t understand about the Ali’s and Obammy’s of this world. If you have a special talent, the military will use that talent and you will get special favors.
But, it takes someone smart to have that “special talent”.
Palin – 08

Posted by: LarryMan | September 8, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

OK, and we, the gullible masses, are supposed to just eat that load of crap? We’re not all your “sheeple”, Obama. Or, were you referring to someone ELSE’s military, like that of the Soviet Union or the PLO?

Posted by: ScottinVA | September 8, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm

Anyone catch Obamallah’s referring to Hezbollah and Hamas having “legitimate claims?” This, on the heels of his brother claiming he (Obamallah) was definitely a muslim when growing up; a day after he made the so-called “slip” in which he identified his “faith” as muslim?
Is The Anointed One trying to throw the election???

Posted by: ScottinVA | September 8, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm

Michael Gray, RE: why didn’t Obamallah mention his one-time desire to join the military in his books? VERY good question.

Posted by: ScottinVA | September 8, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm

Posted by: ScottinVA | September 8, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm

It was either the military or community organizing.

Posted by: Sam Deakins | September 8, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm

More evidence of Obama’s selective memory and I will tell you what you want to hear.

Posted by: dadminnesota | September 8, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm

RE: ScottinVA. yep; it’s a good question, as is most of what obama’s got to say or doesn’t say; i.e. dadminnesota says it best.

Posted by: michael gray | September 8, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm

According to the Selective Service Website, regiatration was no reinstated until 1980. How could BO have registered after graduating from high school in 1979 as he stated in the interview. Is someone out there (George maybe) going to challenge him on this or will it be left unchecked like everything else he says?

Posted by: RGB | September 8, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm

Is he saying he “WOULD” have joined if the war was still going in 1979?

Posted by: Dennis | September 8, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm

EXCUSE ME….The Iranian Revolution started in January 1978, the Islamic Republic was declared in April 1979, the Iranian Hostage crisis began in October 1979, Operation Eagle Claw (intending to rescue 52 Americans) failed in April 1980, Iraq invaded Iran in September 1980, starting a six-year war.
BUT….to Obama….”I graduated in 1979. The Vietnam War had come to an end. We weren’t engaged in an active military conflict at that point. And so, it’s not an option that I ever decided to pursue,”
Yes, the Viet Nam conflict was over but didn’t he ever catch the news on television or read a newspaper?? The US was very much actively engaged and the threat of a very serious war was immediate. (Operation Eagle Claw resulted in the deaths of eight US servicemen.) This is a very bad start for someone who claims to be internationally saavy.

Posted by: DonReynolds | September 8, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm

Duh, he didn’t join because they was NO war? LOL. As if he would have bypassed college and joined the army if we were at war. What a joke.

Posted by: timmy the geek | September 8, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm

when did joinign the military become the only legitimate way to claim service to yoru country?

Posted by: Jason | September 8, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm

getwhatyoudeserve if that is indeed your real name. my goodness you are one vapid person with little or no real understanding of the facts. Though you do have a way of writing that I’m sure is interesting to those people that have no interest in actual facts.
I shall attempt to enlighten your kookaid blinded mind.
first, eisenhower did not lead us into korea moron, truman (a dem) did that. and it was our first UN mission. which of course doomed it to stalemate or worse. In fact it was only When Eisenhower was president that any military gains were made.
Lie number #2. Nixon did not lead us into vietman. it was two dems, kennedy and lbj. Again it was only after Nixon became president that the war was ended.
Lie number #2b- the clinton administration led the way in the normalizing of relations with vietnam.(mccain big supporter) not the bush administration. Again your writing style is not restrained by the truth. I hhope you people reading this understand that this kind of writing is jjust SOP for the left. it’s called misinformation, and it sounds good.
Lie #3 Bush 1 led us into a “military quagmire” we’ll that was not true, since there were less then #400 deaths related to combat in that Liberation of Kuwait, which by the way, was what the UN agreed to when the whole thing started. It was done in less then a 100hrs. that is leadership.
Lie#4 Since the war in Iraq is nearing an end, a victorious end. In fact US troops will be handing over security of bagdad by the end of summer, many deployments have been canceled or postponed, and double the amount of young men where shot to dealth in chicago last year then in Irag and Afganistan, I would say maybe, when all iis said done this stratagy could be considered very bright. After all folks, this nation has not been attacked since we started attacking the enemy. And since the surge has been so brillently successful, more troops have died in training then did in combat in Iraq. Sadam is not killing his people, the tailiban is not exacuting woman in soccer stadiums, and planning attacks on NY, Or va, or wherever.
Are you ready to hand this office to a guy that would not know a gig line from the fireing line. come on you know we can trust this guy, appeasers and marxists, not good. we end up in wars with millions dead, not a few thousand.
Oh and our good friend, getwhatyoudeserve (no doubt michelle obama on the dl)forgot a few wars, and presidents that lead us into them.
let’s see we should make it easy for him.
dem presidents: mexican american(polk)
ww1:wilson
ww2:fdr
korea:truman
Vietnam:kennedy,lbj
Republican pres;
civil war: Lincoln
first gulf: bush 1
iraq afgan war on terror;bush2
vote dem, end up in war.

Posted by: shilosteve | September 8, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm

I am a retired USAR LTC. Obama said that “serving in the military was not an option” when he was young. Was that because back in the 80′s he probably could not get in under the high standards and probably could not pass a security background check because of his doping days.
Back during the 80′s and 90′s we still had active enemies at the Korean DMZ and the Fulda GaP. We also had Desert Storm and Somalia. All of the Generals that support you now, probably would had rated you at the bottom of the pile in an OER or if you had enlisted, you would had an Article 15 for your doping habits.
But after 9/11, he could and still now, apply for a direct commission as a JAG lawyer in the reserves. With the lowering of the standards now, he could probably get in now. So, why did you not step up to the plate like other real Americans did after 9/11???

Posted by: Downrange6 | September 8, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm

I was for it before I was against it…err no wait..I was against it before I was for it….I am soooo confused George help me out here…
Seriously Senator don’t use our brave military to push for votes. It only makes you look……

Posted by: Curious Indep | September 8, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm

He thought about it but didn’t do it. Sarah’s son did it. We all think about a lot of things – he didn’t walk the walk but he’s talking the talk!

Posted by: Mary | September 8, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm

Considered joining is a long fall from joining. I enlisted in 1973 in the Air Force and served 20 years. My sons did enlist in the Marines, and served two tours in Iraq If it mattered to Obama, he would have done it. He still can, the Army would take him. Talk is cheap, and frankly he put himself in a bad position by mentioning it in the way he did. He would have done better not to have said a thing.

Posted by: AF Veteran | September 8, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm

Obama Not Truthfull About Selective Service
Obama to Stephanopoulos: The Democratic Nominee Considered Joining the Military
September 07, 2008 11:35 AM
“I had to sign up for selective service when I graduated from High School,” he explained. “I actually always thought of the military as an ennobling and you know, honorable option.”
Check the dates!

Posted by: Linda | September 8, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm

Barry the LIAR Obama, you never considered the military and you did NOT have to sign up for the Selective Service as it had been discontinued from 1973 to 1980. What a LOSER BHO !!!

Posted by: mike | September 8, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm

You can not believe this man. Anyone who was in highschool back in ’79 would know that the selective service – aka draft was suspended as of 1975 and not reinstated until our good ole boy Jimmy Carter took office in 1980. So for Obama to say he had to sign up for selective service is absolutely absurd. Nice try BUCKO.
And now for something completely different….

Posted by: big bamboo | September 8, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm

Gee, you think he would have mentioned that in his two memoirs. He talked about everything else.
Thinking about and doing are two very different things.

Posted by: dlc | September 8, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm

i guess he also wanted to be in at the Iron Triangle, khe Sanh, TET

Posted by: mike | September 8, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm

……and to think George S did not correct him on the selective service issue like he did with The big O’s faith and religion………
Only his hairdresser knows for sure….

Posted by: big bamboo | September 8, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm

Suprise surprise. Signing up for the selective service was not required in 1979. The requirement to sign up stopped in 1973 and was re-instated in 1980. But why did Obama say he had to sign up when he graduated in 1979?
Sounds like more BS form Obama to me!

Posted by: Greg Girtman | September 8, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm

LARRYMAN,
The only “drilling” that has been going on have been by Levi :) So please leave my Mommy out of it.
BTW, I asked you yesterday, If you would marry me? I am still waiting for that answer before I have to wed this myspace redneck.
BTW, please check out more info about my mom:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/08/fact-check-palin-and-the-_n_124912.html

Posted by: Bristol | September 8, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm

Actually,
Since my Dad is 44, I decided to give him a call to see if he had to register for Selective Service. He said he did register, it was mandatory, and it was before 1980 because then he just joined the Marines a year after that.
He also says he still needed it because his current job requested the actual service number to fill out his security questionnaire so he can obtain access to classified materials. Not having the Selective Service number hurts you for a security clearance.
Here is info that is quoted from the Selective Service System government site:
Beginning in late 1979, a series of “revitalization” efforts were begun in an effort to upgrade the System’s capability for rapid mobilization in an emergency, and in the summer of 1980 the registration requirement was resumed.
Sure seems to be alot of bullsh:t around here. Maybe I need some sh:t waders in here.

Posted by: Dean | September 8, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm

How could he register for selective service after high school in 1979 when it wasn’t instituted until 1980? I am constantly amazed at how the people in the MSM constantly overlook anything this guy says. He’s lying, plain and simple.

Posted by: slayur | September 9, 2008, 2:59 am 2:59 am

At least 1/3 of Obamas support is comprised of those who damn America,those that will do whatever starletts with chihuahuas in their purses tell them to do,community organisers who register people who are tripping their ass off at rock the vote concerts & the people who come down from their trip & have a vague recollection of signing something ,somewhere…

Posted by: I.C said the Blindman | September 9, 2008, 6:24 am 6:24 am

DEMOCRAT PARTY SHLD CHANGE TO
OSAMA-BIDEN PARTY
OBAMA STANDS FOR = OSAMA
BIDEN STANDS FOR = BINLADEN
BE CAREFUL AMERICAN PEOPLE

Posted by: goody vigaedor | September 9, 2008, 7:21 am 7:21 am

(((Hey all you Repubs))))
The economy sucks…and GW was in the service…state side anyway. Do you think his one weekend a month two weeks a year helped him be a better Pres…?
Wait, I will as a former New Orleans resident…

Posted by: Tell the Truth | September 9, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm

=====================================
Tellthetruth, why are you not telling the truth? You wouldn’t know about the economy if it was stuck up your butt.
The economy was great until democrats took over house and senate. Why don’t they boost oil supplies?????
I’ll tell you why since you can’t see past the boogers in your nose.
Because they don’t WANT the economy to improve right now. All they would have to do is ANNOUNCE the drilling of oil and the future price would drop under a dollar and the price of gas would drop back to $1.50. Then all the transportation costs would drop, people would eat our again, buy more goods. Why is it that any normal idiot can see that?
GW was in the service, RIGHT, that was a hell of a lot more than Slick Willie OR the “community organ grinder” did. I too was in the Marines state side. I was able to go to college while in the Marines.
What does New Orleans have to do with anything? Oh, I remember, Bush killed all those black people on purpose, Right?????
Good thing there was a REpublican Governor there now or even more would have died.
Had enough?
Palin – 08

Posted by: LarryMan | September 9, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm

Larry, you’re absolutely right. If BO is elected this country’s in trouble. The last time the three houses of govt were controlled by dems was during the Carter administration. The misery index was the highest since the great depression. Obama, Pelosi and Reid’s plan for govt. is the same as Carter’s : high taxes, high spending on well fare and other inefficient wasteful government programs isolationism (no foreign trade), strong labor unions very much like the Chavez govt in Venezuela but we don’t have oil to help pay for it.
I agree with you, “why can’t any normal idiot” see that electing Obama will be a disaster for the economy. Witness the recent bailout of Fanny and Freddy putting the tax payers on the hook for 200 billion. Republicans have tried since 2000 to get Barney and his democratic cohorts to reform them. Barneys response was no, there is no problem with these fine institutions. They are buying sub prime mortgages. This is good for the country.

Posted by: Redneckerson | September 11, 2008, 7:00 am 7:00 am

Mary – “Two of our most respectd Presidents in times of was were Lincoln & FDR. Neither one served in the military”. So you know: Lincoln served as a Captain in the Illinois Militia (Infantry Division) during the Black Hawk War of 1832, and FDR, while not a sailor, served as Assistant Secretary of the Navy 1913 – 1920.

Posted by: George Thompson | September 14, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm

I have sent a letter to the Democratic Party in D.C. some months ago. This was when there was a race to see who they would win the nomination. My comment to them was this election has taken the country like the lips of the statue of Liberty. The election has put a new vibrant meaning to the Golden Doors of America. A new hope, a result of the original tired, poor of huddled masses, whose generations has grown to breath free.
Today we have Japanese, Mexican, Iranians, India’s and others teeming our shores. If not now then when will our elected officails reflect the cross cultures that make up America today? Do we wait for their children born here as Americans to grow up and run for President, or do we mentor for the next generation?
I wrote a poem called “HOLD THAT LINE” and has sent it out to The View, the Obamas, the Clintons, Opraha,and others plus published online with my local news paper. My voice is maybe to soft to be heard and I am one of the millions Americans that feel the shock wave issued from Washington D.C. while they blow money and bail out the rich for their greed.
The last economic stimulus check I didn’t get the full amount and do not understand why. The money needs to go directly people and not get ate up by the government for child support, taxes owed, garnishment or any thing else. Directly to the people, let the people decide how they will spend or save it.
This bail out is a joke. That money should go to the people who are effected by the loans to pay the companies. This clears the people of the delinquent debt, spares their credit score, and restores the money for the companies to continue business.
This is like here in Michigan I can get a home heating credit. It is my credit, but I don’t get the money because Michigan sends it directly to the Gas Company. What are our politicians thinking about. It was my credit not the Gas Company.
So what do you think it is not fare and it is not right, but we need a serious CHANGE in our America.

Posted by: Betty | October 22, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm

“HOLD THAT LINE”
Did you know you were stronger than you think; Your weakness is not your weakest link.
Yet you countinue in curiosity; Not paying attention to what you do now, for how it turns out to be.
Holding on to what you cannot let go; It Is not just a job, but a part of life you have come to know.
AMERICA you see is heridity; Exhibited through out history.
The first AMERICANS were Indians, known by their tribes; Centuries later they still survive.
No matter how many generations it may take; To right the wrong is the stand they make.
The Underground Railroad was more than what it seemed; There was a UNION in the songs that the slaves would sing.
Guidance for those strong enough, whose spirit heard the call; Escape in a time when there was no Labor Laws.
Religions are committed, a committment many of us make; The fellowship of people, for all that could be lost, is what is at stake.
Many leaders who have not lived to see today; We continue on, with the strength from the prayers we have prayed.
Retirement is not an act; Retirees have UNITED to keep their benefits in tack.
Youth starting out in the world, but do not know who they are;Employers know, if we do not teach them, they will not go far.
Cultures banning together to escape their suffering, still by boat; UNITED, their governments knew their actions was no joke.
Lives sacrificed trying to cross the borders; Lying to live where there is a better order.
Wild life corral together, for each others co-existence; Stead fast is their UNION, born with natural instincts.
Yesterday people suffered, fought and died; What else could they loose when they still had their pride.
Wars, where are our soldiers are ordered to go;To fight, is it right? Who really knows.
The lost of body parts, minds mangled, to death; Soldiers, their families, communities, all gasp their breaths.
From the stone age, to the computer technologyis this all we have learned;While AMERICAS jobs leave AMERICA, is Big Business concerned.
Today we still hear CHANGE and respond to the cry; Strong spirits that will not let the injustice be pushed to the side.
Tomorrow – We prepare our next generation for, to face with clarity or disparity; Our families and our homes are our first charities.
Thank the Lord for all His blessings and that He gave you another day; That in UNITY, you have a VOICE, and it has been heard, all that you have to say.
Did you know you were stronger than you are lead to think; Your weakness is not your weakest link.
As time goes on and future history, we cannot tell; A new hope, as in the political arena, History, evolves the minorities, has been unveiled.
Your VOICE is your VOTE, peacefully assembled, the AMERICA of all cultures who can vote under God; Not violence, Not drugs, Not alcohol.
Representatives fromacross this country, assurance of the responsibility; For improvements to todays and tomorrows generations of life’s quality.
With the neagtives of different eclectics, to narrowed minded to support it; The response to a call, defying cultural identity, this has not been aborted.
Still THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, a strong spirited pride unleavened to persevere; It cannot be coerced, restrained, or liquidated because you AMERICA CARES.
AMERICA knows it is stronger than closed minds could think;Revealing that young to the elderly, military men and women, veterans, low income, homeless, middle class, the rich, the workers, the handicapped, old and new political parties, scandels, drugs, viloence, as some of many labels and steor typed discriminations are not some of AMERICAS weakest links.
Persistence, with knowledge as our power; For success will shine with assurance for THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA ON THAT DAWNING hour….
Irregardless of what comes with time; Our SUCCESS with our AMERICA is when UNITED WE “HOLD THAT LINE”

Posted by: Betty | October 22, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm

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