Obama to Try to School McCain on Education Reform

And BTW is “working with the Governors” what the bush kennedy no chlid left behind program does?

McCain is truly out of touch and does NOT understand anything that us normals do. Hell, he thinks Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae are government agencies! He’s wrong on education and he’s wrong on economics. What else is wrong with McCain?
Obama/Biden for the people!

How much money will be wasted and how much corruption will take place until we “close down” the charter schools that don’t perform?

Read between the lines… McCain will import more foreigners to fill teacher jobs.
Obama/Biden 08!
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UPDATE: RNC spox Alex Conant asks, “What has Barack Obama ever done for education reform other than give speeches about it? Senator Obama wants our schools to answer to unions and entrenched bureaucracies, while Senator McCain wants schools to answer to parents and students. Unlike Obama, McCain will shake up failed school bureaucracies with competition, empower parents with choice, remove barriers to qualified instructors, attract and reward good teachers, and help bad teachers find another line of work.”

Yes, Obama will teach Mccain about education. After all Mccain knows about militery, not about eduction or science.

All you have to do is Google BO on his record with the Chicago schools and you will find out he has done nothing of any importance there. So, for him to try & talk us into thinking he is the big reformer of education with a plan is pretty comical. Actually, he is pretty comical. I watch him on tv & see it more as a standup comedy routine. He goes on about Palin making up stories about herself when he changed his story so many times it is ridiculous. I love the one now about “I thought about joing the military but Vietnam was over”. LOL! What a loser!

Just say “no” to the anti-education Bullwinkle (Palin) and her flying squirrel Rocky (McCain). They want tv ratings and the spotlight, we want a president that deals with the issues.
Obama/Biden 08!

The Federal government should go back to having NO role in education. The Federal Dept. of Education was established in 1979, and after trillions of dollars down the government rathole, kids are dumber than ever. I’m waiting for one of them to recommend abolishing the Dept. of Education (which like most other federal bureaucracies, has no constitutional justification for existing in the first place).

As his own daughters attend a $20K per child school in Chicago and would most likely attend private school in Washington, Obama is in a very tough position of trying not to look like a hypocrite. He’s in favor of public schools and gets huge support from the teacher’s unions who generally oppose charter schools and school choice yet sends his own kids private (which in Chicago I would too). So if the public schools are failing whose fault is it? Does he favor non-union charter schools? Will he really go up against the powerful entrenched teacher’s unions? He’s never shown much instinct to criticize those who give him political power.

Obama has the RECORD of supporting charter schools and school reform in ILLINOIS.
Obama has the RECORD of supporting the funding called for, but missing, from ‘No Child Left Behind’.
Obama is calling on the training and REPLACEMENT of ineffective teachers.
John McCain’s record on education is… NONE.

McCain is painfully weak on education. It’s just not something he cares about (he’s more into wars). Obama has a detailed, specific plan, from increasing funding for proven programs like Head Start to professional development for teachers, to making college more affordable. And how about actually funding No Child Left Behind? McCain is just another Bush Republican, pretending to support public education when he really wants to undermine it.

You maligned Hillary Clinton and used race baiting witch hunts to advance Saint Obama as your nominee but how did you expect the DNC advance to the next game when you had so many dead teammates on the field after the primaries?
Posted by: Samantha | Sep 9, 2008 8:39:03 AM
I was a die hard Hillary supporter and I have no clue how some of you can even fathom voting for McCain/Palin. They represent everything Hillary is against.
This spite vote is silly and ridiculous. It won’t put gas in your care it won’t feed you and your kids and it won’t create jobs.
Suck it up and let her run again in 2012 and 2016. She certainly has come to terms with it and so has Bill. If you really think voting for McCain is going to teach the democrats anything you are naive and on top of that stupid.
This is about people’s lives and the future of this country, not who we are pissed off at.

New Palin revelations in The Washington Post today….
ANCHORAGE, Sept. 8 — Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has billed taxpayers for 312 nights spent in her own home during her first 19 months in office, charging a “per diem” allowance intended to cover meals and incidental expenses while traveling on state business.
The governor also has charged the state for travel expenses to take her children on official out-of-town missions. And her husband, Todd, has billed the state for expenses and a daily allowance for trips he makes on official business for his wife.
The governor’s daughters and husband charged the state $43,490 to travel, and many of the trips were between their house in Wasilla and Juneau, the capital city 600 miles away, the documents show.
The more we know about her, the less we like her.

Posted by: justice | Sep 9, 2008 8:48:08 AM
GASP…not Princess Palin! I am shocked.

Obama wants to go here? Education rdform with the Annenberg challenge with his terroist pal.

Obama can educate McCain on a few things if McCain wants to learn, like: How to hate America for 20 years and in one day be forgiven. How to associate with terrorist and in one day have it forgotten. How to design your own personal logo and paint it over the American flag. How to do drugs and mask it in the open. How to read from a teleprompter. How to have your wife forgiven in one day for 40 years of not being proud of America. How to belittle middle America. How to throw your own family under the bus to further your political career. More to come….

McCain says he doesn’t need a stupid education….his Dad was an Admiral.

Rob – No Child Left Behind one the the many Bush meses created in the last eight years. At least no one has died. Now are you sure you really want to go there?

What is the definition of a “charter school”? What is the measurement criteria as to whether or not they have been successful? How do their graduates fare in the marketplace? Why do we need special funding set aside for such schools? If they’re so great why don’t we simply spend our existing education funding (up to 90% of which is paid for with local taxes anyway, not federal) on these types of schools? Before we spend another dime on these programs we should answer all of these questions.
Also, is it fair to ask if his backing of charter schools is a precursor to his nationalising of his Public Allies program. It’s all about “universal, voluntary” taxpayer funded “education” to promote “social entreprenures”, whatever that means. In reality it’s a way to “educate” young impressionable minds on how to become activists. Go check out the web site. There’s a link to it from BMO’s site (Milhouse).

I wish I had 1/10000 of the tax dollars spent on programs that didn’t and still don’t work. It sounds so “good” to say millions of dollars are allocated to improve those folks in poverty. Most have become handouts with no significant results.
This has caused people become “married” to the government. It is easier than working for a living.
I am what is considered part of the middle class. I have worked for 43 years and I am single mother of 4 who put my children through college with the help of student loans. Those loans have all been paid back.
The Democratic party has become a party of Socialists.

“At least she has the intelligence not to vote against her interests and the future of this country, unlike you”.
J, Most of the idiots that post for McCain/Palin are paid GOP trolls. Time for them to check in with Daddy John for more talking points.

“No but I think her dogs graduated obedience school. Does that count? I loved your comment btw”.
Ms Sarah even has the Pitbull owners up in arms against her. They don’t want their noble beast’s name associated with her. Can’t blame them for that.

Ms Sarah even has the Pitbull owners up in arms against her. They don’t want their noble beast’s name associated with her. Can’t blame them for that.
Posted by: Chuck | Sep 9, 2008 9:14:15 AM
I also see the group Heart doesn’t want them using the Barracuda song anymore.

Not all of Chicago thinks Obama is “The One”.
McCain raised $5million last night in Chicago.
Obama took millions in earmarks then let homes turn into slums, and has turned his back on corruption.
Chicago knows Obama very well.

McCain and the GOP still want to play got-cha politics — Old-time Party Politics, which most Americans are weary and growing tired of. The GOP lead us into a Pretend and Fake war, the Iraq invasion. The Real war was and is in Afghanistan where Bin Ladin is hiding today. That is not change you can believe in. Most Americans want Truth and Authenticity. We don’t want to be led into a fake war for oil! We don’t want our young men and women dying for oil and a fake war that should have never been authorized. John McCain likes to say he is good on national security, yet he voted Yes to authorize the fake war the Iraq War. What we need desperately today is more honesty by our politicians in this nation instead of the politics of Got-cha, Lies and the tearing down of one’s opponent through dishonesty. The debate should be about the real issues, not pretend wars or personal attacks and or empty and false slogans because it does nothing for the day to day lives of American people.
The Republican operatives have belittled and berated Barack Obama as just speeches, however, Barack has over 20 years of experience in public service, plus a Natural Talent to organize and get things done, as evidenced by the successful running of his Campaign. Barack Obama has an innate judgment as evidenced by his speaking out against the Iraq war when it was not popular because he had the intelligence and common sense to know that the real was was in Afghanistan not Iraq. Bin Ladin did and does not live in Iraq. Barack Obama has the ability to inspire people to unite in a common cause to bring about the Necessary Changes we need today. Because if we do not unite for change, for true democracy, together we will all go down with the ship and be united anyway but in a negative way and not a positive way.
We definitely need a change in the way our politicians campaign which as to date, tears down one’s opponent through lies and dishonesty which only tears the country down and puts a bad taste in our mouths, though each candidate has the right to point out true policy differences. We should demand honesty and integrity from our politicians and stop letting them lead us down a yellow brick road of illusion, misstatements, lies and dirty political maneuvering!
Barack Obama is no ordinary man. He is not the Messiah, but he is an Old Soul or Disciple. He was born to lead and born to take humanity to a higher stage of unity and prosperity. His message has been throughout that all children are Everybody’s Children, and that we must change the “mindset” for going into wars. He tells us that in order for us to make it as a society and solve our problems, that we must stop being divisive: gays against straight, Muslims, Jews, Palestinians, Christians must unite and respect one another’s religions. That will be his greatest gift to humanity at this time — the ability to see each other as ourselves — or together we can go down with the ship. Everyday he risks his life. He is not running because he has a thirst for power. He offers up his life for his love of humanity and to its next stage of evolution. We should embrace this gift and offer up our prayers that he can finish his mission, his high calling. We must stopped being fooled by politicians who only has the best interest of their pocketbooks and big corporations and not the pocket books of everyday average citizens. It should not take 10 years for the minimum wage to be increased, there is no justification for that. That should tell you there that politicians who vote no for an increase care nothing about your day to day struggles. And you have to ask yourself “What has the GOP done for me lately”? The years when the American Dream was thriving, they were years when there was Democratic Presidents and Congress. That is the true party of the people. If we are to get back to the American dream again we must put in office that party who has always been inclusive and the people’s champion. That party is the Democratic Party.
And lastly we must not listen to those who refuse to understand the changing of the old order, and the awakening of humanity to the new possibilities. We need a complete purification of the political and economical arenas which would be of the greatest value in bringing back Americas greatness and strength.

Chuck – I think McCain is basking in her limelight. Because of her he is pulling in more people than ever at his speeches. Only problem they want to hear her not him. I think that once she get out on her own her true inner Cheney will be revealed.

what’s obama going to say
“Have rich grandparents that send you all the way thru to Private Schools”

More Palin coruption uncovered:
ANCHORAGE, Sept. 8 — Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has billed taxpayers for 312 nights spent in her own home during her first 19 months in office, charging a “per diem” allowance intended to cover meals and incidental expenses while traveling on state business.
The governor also has charged the state for travel expenses to take her children on official out-of-town missions. And her husband, Todd, has billed the state for expenses and a daily allowance for trips he makes on official business for his wife.
Palin, who earns $125,000 a year, claimed and received $16,951 as her allowance, according to an analysis of her travel documents by The Washington Post.

I think it is great the Palin and McCain are winning over all the Clinton supporters! Just imagine the irony in the terrible event that something happens to President McCain and thanks to all the Hillary supporters that voted for McCain, the amazing Sarah Palin becomes the FIRST WOMAN PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!!!!!!! Hopefully that won’t happen & we will ELECT the first female POTUS 4 years. Palin for President 2012!!!!!!!!!

Who is that mystery man that got Obama into Harvard?
Another questionable associate for Obama: Al-Monsour.
While the MSM vets Palin they really should take the time to vet Obama.

Obama is showing how panicked he really is by focusing so much attention on Palin.
I thought he was running against McCain.
Notice how the questions about her qualifications have stopped?
In the frenzy to learn about Palin the pro-Obama media accidently pointed out her many qualifications–which indirectly pointed out Obama’s lack of any.
His silliest arguement was–well I’ve been campaigning that’s why I’m more qualified.

Too much money has been wasted on education. Spend too much time teaching the required tests and not enough R/W/A. The system has been ‘dumbed down’ so much that the graduates don’t know who the VP is much less read and write. There should be more technical schools. Teach the students something they can use.
As for student loans, my son had a loan and had to pay it back two times, yes, two times.

“Obama will try to sound bipartisan, according to his campaign.”

Thank you Chuck and Sarah for your unsolicited help getting John McCain elected. The more you bash Palin because she is a woman the more you push the women over to McCain! COULDN’T HAVE DONE IT WITHOUT YOUR HELP! THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU! So, keep bashing her and keep calling her suzy chapstick, etc. because it keeps pushing the women over to McCain. You are just never going to learn, are you? Well, maybe you won’t learn but I bet the next time a women runs for President, the candidates running will remember to keep their huge pie holes shut regarding gender! lolol But what did Obama say about us? “They’ll get over it! WE HAVEN’T GOTTEN OVER IT AND NEVER WILL! And, not only will we oppose any candidate who uses the gender card, we will also oppose any candidate, who anyone supports who bashes women and that includes if the bashing comes from other women. The gloves are off and we ready to get down and dirty and fight this to end. If Obama kept his big mouth shut this race would be a landslide but he had get full of himself and yak it up so I hope he loses big time in November now! No mercy for women and no mercy for him!

Mary Anne
Stop talking bull !
Stop repeating lines from FOX
Palin bagged out Hillary Clinton none of us smart girls are going to vote for her and her god crazy Ideas!
Take a breath and try talking truth.

Does Obama associate with ANYONE possessing good character, honor and integrity?
DO YOU REALLY KNOW WHO BARACK OBAMA IS???
What IS illegal: Taking Cocaine and bombing the Capitol, the Pentagon and police stations like Ayers.
Being a corrupt Chicago slumlord is illegal as Rezko found out. And Obama is associated with both of them.
He associates with race-baiters like Jeremy Wright and Khalid Mansour.
He backstabbed community organizer” Alice Palmer.
He dumped the Maytag workers in Galesburg, IL in favor of his political cronies.
Yes Obama is a fairy tale: AMERICAN GANGSTER
DNC why did you fail your values and put Obama on your ticket? It was clear that Hillary was the more qualified candidate and deserving of the nomination.

Anita:
You are wrong! Check the CNN polls because droves of women are swinging over to McCain’s side now so I guess Obama shouldn’t have said about us, “They’ll get over it!” He should have stopped running off at the mouth against the female gender and he should have apologized for getting off track and saying those sexist comments about Hillary Clinton. Did you know that a candidate admitting that he made a mistake actually usually becomes more endearing to the people and that people can forgive almost anything and give that person back their support? But, your brilliant harvard grad Obama couldn’t figure that one out. Oh yes, you are really behind a bright guy! NOT!

GOP backing: Just because Palin might become President by default doesn’t mean that Hillary could not be elected President. You are seeing skewed polls because Obama’s junkies are upset that we are throwing our support behind McCain. And, just for your information, Hillary is moderate to right. It is is Obama and his group who are far left and who attacked the Clintons mercilessly. This is why we are voting for McCain but if people like you keep shooting their mouths off you will push women back to Obama. You say you don’t want Obama to win. So, than why are helping him with your mouth and attitude?

Mary Anne..
Hillary chance of being the first Female President will be over and done with Palin will see to that!
Dems are done!

After 26 years in Washington of indifference to issues that matter to the working Middle class and single working moms, do you really think that John McCain is going to do an about face and put the changes in that he and his party have BLOCKED for decades?

Two things…I cannot understand why people are questioning McCain’s judgement on selecting Palin. We should be questioning Obama’s judgement for not picking Hillary. A Hillary pick would have sealed the deal. Second, Obama might want to stay away from education. Liberals, for years, have been pumping money into a broken public education system which works solely for hte teachers unionss. There is no relation between money and educational performance. In addition, liberls oppose giving parents the option of choosing schools for their kids.

This Palin-thing is hilarious….I can’t believe how utterly stupid people are….McCain isn’t brilliant, he was dumb to pick her. I used to love the guy but have lost all respect for him….Republicans don’t want to do a thing except continue to enrich themselves and divide the people by injecting all this foolishness into the debate. GOP are liars – first, last and always.

Hmm: according to CNN, The CHANGEling’s Ohio “education” event is invitation-only. CNN didn’t say whether the press is among the disinvited.
Guess it’s another one of those fake “democratic” events which will serve as video fodder for campaign commercials.
All this, and FISA (and escalation in Afghanistan, and offshore drilling, and waffling on Bush tax cuts) too. Why anybody would consider voting for this gang of flim-flammers is beyond me — and I’m a Jesse Jackson Democrat.
What HAPPENED to Jesse last week, anyway? These guys remind one of … the Borgias.

this is so scarey…..Another 4 years of this bs….(passing out a clue)…Am i the only one feeling this “recession “?

washak67- The republicans will abuse that issue till everyone is blue in the face…enough talk..more action! Im embarrassed as a woman to know that Hillary supporters could now support McCain….Is it because they dislike Obama so much that they are wiling to switch parties and vote for the next woman in a suit?? Palin could not be more different than Hillary Clinton….why ladies, why??!!

After 26 years in Washington, how can anyone believe that John McCain will change anything? After 8 years of backing Bush and Republican agendas, how can anyone believe that John McCain will have their best interests at heart?
If John McCain becomes president, it will be more of the same.

This is how I see it.
Obama come on!
No more MR nice guy.Go on the attack do not let the replublicans win this time around.
Republicans stole the last two elections by using dirty tactics that actually worked.
Do not let it happened again.
Republicans will use any means to win the election so why you would not fight the same way. It is only fair.
That is how things work around here because what matters is who wins at the end.
Do no let GOP Republicans win another term.
I believe our country is better off with Obama and that the changes that he will implement our country will be set in a better direction.

It’s very ironic that McCain and Palin talk about change…..Didn’t Bush’s speech writer write Palin’s speech? Come on ladies-why do you fall for this?

owen jacob wrote: “A Country gets the Leaders they deserve.”
I think you might be right on this; I keep asking myself, “What in the &^%# did I do to deserve the last eight years?!”
Whatever it was, I hope my atonement is complete.

Why are the candidates looking for alternatives – when they should reform the school systems we have in place. Hire more teachers, better pay, rebuild delapadated schools and turn the schools back to the teachers. Let them discipline the children (no hitting) without the parents intervening. Install a dress code and require students respect their peers and teachers. Get back to basics, the three R’s.

“After three decades of indifference on education, do you really believe that John McCain is going to make a difference now?” …gosh Obama…McCain wasn’t president of these 57 states the last three decades. He was in the do nothing senate with you…where voting “present” was the norm.

Can we get back to education?
I’ve been a parent for 30 years and our family has lived in three midwestern communities in two different states. Each of them had very fine schools. I question the accuracy of politicians and members of the media who make sweeping statements trashing public schools, as if they are all the same. Moreover, I have worked for a public school for the last ten years and have seen the negative impact of treating all public schools the same regardless of their inherent (and immense) differences. NCLB policies have literally shortchanged teachers and students. Communities and the issues they face are all different and can’t be solved by sweeping government policies that pretend that the strengths/shortcomings of each school districts are identical.

Maybe I’m wrong, but I thought most liberals hated the No Child Left Behind policy because it was created by Bush. And now Obama is going to attack McCain for not fully supporting it? Makes as much sense as most liberal posters on this website.

Flailing, Barack, flailing–all of this education reform nonsense from a guy who claims overwhelming support from teachers’ unions and whose Annenberg Challenge with Ayers sunk millions into Chicago schools with no discernible positive results.
How is it possible that Obama is not already a laughingstock?

Mark in Florida:
The 2001 Bush tax cuts turned around the 2000-01 recession. The combination of the 2001 and 2003 Bush tax cuts greatly diminished the effect that 9/11 and the corporate scandals had on our economy. Then we actually had 52 consecutive months of job growth (last month of growth was December 2007) before the slumping housing market, the subprime mortgage crisis and skyrocketing energy prices all hit at the same time causing the current downturn in the economy. YET in spite of these latest blows to the economy, GDP actually grew the first two quarters of 2008: 0.9% growth in the 1st quarter and 3.3% growth in the 2nd quarter.
I contend that it has been the Bush domestic policies that has gotten us through the major hits that our economy has seen during his two terms.

Obama did not let his own children suffer the public schools of Chicago. They go to a pricey private school. Chicago public schools have disintegrated with Obama representing those people. High School dropout rates soared, yet Obama and Williams spent $50 million on “improving Education in Chicago Public Schools”. Everyone admit his attempts were huge failures. Where did the $50 million go? If you have an unrepentant terrorist as an “educational reformer” aren’t you off to a bad start.

I think it’s funny how repub’s say “Do you want to elect the biggest celebrity ever?” How do they think Reagan got elected president? (He was a movie star.) How do they think Arnold Swarzenegger got elected governor of California? (He was the biggest movie star of his time.) And now the repub’s flip-flop (again) and say that being a celebrity is a bad thing. But when it’s their candidate it’s o.k. (Hypocrites!)

So if you stink at your job you get fired, unless you are a teacher. Then, Obama wants the taxpayer to get bad teachers “tutors” to help them not be so bad. Why not fire them? Obama cannot state; FIRE BAD TEACHERS. Welfare for bad teachers. Send bad teachers to charter schools to learn how to be not-as-bad teachers?

I have followed government since the 60s when I was active in some of the things that lead to changes in this country. I’m not proud when some of these changes have lead.
The Dept. of Education is a joke, when a teacher can’t comtroll her classroom because they are not allowed to, someone’s feeling might get hurt if they are made to behave. One thing comes to mind in our local school a student (if you can call him that) has been in trouble over 50 time, you name it he’s done it, including threating the principle with a knife, has been aloud to stay in classes because his family know someone in political office, this is just one example that I know, because we have been very involved in pushing our kids to learn. That is the main reason the no child left behind and the other rules Wash. DC has sent to the states that education has failed in the US. We don’t need more of the same, more taxes and more rules from the eliete of DC or Chi Town Elite. PS My wife is a fomer teacher with Headstart & elem. school.
PSS Why doesn’t the email fund raising elite raise money from outside of the US for school not just a political party race?

“The pastor again? Why don’t we talk about Palin’s believes?”

Wow! Do we Americans have a corrupt liberal wolfpack press or what?
Here is the same wolfpack that hunted down Hillary Clinton. Weaken her from all their attacks and eventually killed her campaign.
NOW we have the same Pro-Obama liberal wolfpack press going after another woman, Sarah. With the same exact intensions as they had with Hillary.
On November 4th We The People need to send a very strong message to our corrupt liberal wolfpack.
………………………..McCain / Palin…………………..because it really is time that we broke this glass ceiling……………at long last.

BG-I know it’s worse than that. And it should scare the heck out of everyone that this extreme fanatic could be our president one day.

I’m actually not crazy about Obama OR McCain. But we’ve had 8 years of Republican leadership, and look where it’s got us, and I think it’s time for a real change.
I don’t love all of Obama’s policy ideas but I think he will surround himself with a lot of smart, knowledgeable people and he will make good decisions based on the available information.
It seems to me that if we really want change, Obama is the bold choice. The right choice…

itoldyouso, funny comment. Wrong, but funny! Guess who does the housework in the Palin family? Now there is some real change for you!

“The thought that this could be “God’s will” is incredibly twisted.”

perceptions-I an getting sick and tired of you people twisting it into sexism! Do you really believe I am dumb enough and vote for a woman because I am a woman? What is wrong with you? I want my daughter to be able to have the right to choose if god forbid she is raped and becomes pregnant. I want equal pay for women. And I don’t want a nutcase who thinks the Iraq war is god’s will to be our vice- or our president. I don’t care if she is a woman! She is the WRONG woman. Are you really that shallow??

stop2think:
Obama actually authored a lot of education reform bills in the Illinois state senate. The records are there, you can always reference for more clarity. McCain and Palin don’t care about education. McCain has being in the U.S. senate for twenty donkey years, what has he done to advance the quality of education in this country? McCain placed last in his air force academy class, why should he care about education. McCain abhors learning. His dad was an air force admiral; he didn’t see the need to learn or educate himself. McCain like Bush got to where he is today, because of the statute of their parents. Talk about silver spoons.
It took Palin five years and six different schools to graduate from college, obviously college was a hassle to her. You can see that glaringly in her seventeen year old daughter who choose sex over college. I bet you, if care is not taken, she may not see the four walls of a college in her life. When it comes to education, both McCain and Palin are not good role models for our children. Palin even moved to ban some books that disagreed with her faith from the Alaska public library. Talk about being autocratic and abuse of power.
Palin keeps reading from scripts on every campaign stop. That mess will get old very soon. Can she articulate two sentences off head? Americas should wake up. This woman is not qualified in any measure of imagination to be vice president. I am very optimistic that Americans will wake up to this gimmick very soon.

Do any of you even read the story you are posting under. It seems as you simply look to find as many places as you can to post old lies and biases. This is embarrassing. At least try and stick to the topic. Just because you post the same things over and over doesn’t make them true!

Albert…if you ever care to see how well Obama has done with the schools in his South Chicago district… best advice, carry a gun.

How can McCain expect people to think he’s any different than Bush when all he’s putting on the table is exactly what Bush and the Republicans been pushing for years?’ Vouchers will never be funded enough to help lower or middle income families to send their child to a private school. It will only turn out to be another backdoor tax break for the wealthy. Most kids that go to private schools have enough to get there without government help or they wouldn’t be going and almost all private schools are associated with religion. What happens to those kids not in religious families? No, McCain is not offering anything new.

Bottom line is, and always have been… The Republicans, led by John McCain and Sarah Palin… will give us four more years of the Bush policies and plans. Palin is not a reformer as she would like everyone to think. She was for the bridge until she was called out on it, then she was against it but kept the money. She fire people because they don’t agree with her, abuse of power. She is not experience enough, to take over if God forbid something was to happen to McCain. To me, and my family and friends and people in our community it is a no-brainer. As Hillary said it No Way, No How, No McCain and No Palin. My vote and our community vote, made up of whites and blacks, latino, and asains will go for Obama. He will reduce taxes on the middle class, which by the way is the majority in this country, that is people making under $250,000 a year. McCain on the other hand will also reduce taxes, however not as much for middle class, 3%, and under McCain the wealthiest of Americans will get the most increase. Tell me who needs it more, people???? The middle class, my vote will be for Obama, and I don’t care if he is black or white… Our family’s future depends on our vote. We do not wnat 4 more years of Bushs policies, or this was…. I am a woman and an independent swinging to Obama. Thx

Obama…four more years of Nancy Pelosi and pals…a do nothing congress and a done nothing President.

no child left behind SHOULD BE LEFT BEHIND. Just another stupid Bush Bomb.

“Belle Starr- The “one sided carnage”? Are you for real?
Forgot about 9-11? Thats where the people are hiding that caused 9-11. Please explain the carnage in Iraq that was started and supported by Bush with the support of McCain, and of course-god.”

Gary:
The violence in south side Chicago and in every inner city in this country is due in part to the neglect of the white ruling class in the Republican Party? The policies of Bush, Cheney and McCain continue to denigrate blacks and other minorities in this country. Katrina was a vivid example. These past eight years have seen growing violence in inner cities across this country due to poverty, stemming from maladministration of the Bush- Cheney years.

What I would like to know from all the Obama critics posting in here (with their copy and paste propaganda) is did you vote for Bush for his second term? Be honest. If you did then I don’t think your political opinions should really hold much weight. Now is the time to admit you were wrong, tuck your tail, and let another party give it a try. If you didn’t have the sense to see what a joke Bush’s presidency was at 4 years, then maybe you should do a little real research instead of just believing and repeating what you are told.

Obama is gasping for…MONEY. HELP!!! ROFLMAO

“Senator Obama’s kids go to a white private school.”

I am really concerned that if McCain dies and Palin takes over we are going to be in a world of hurt. She does not have a law degree and she is a religious fanatic.
Our religious beliefs are personal and should not be a qualifying factor.
We need what every employer looks for in an employee: Loyalty, honesty and willingness to work hard till the job is done right.
Every relidgion has those same requirements!
We should glory in our differences and bond together in our sameness. We are all humans who want a safe place to raise our children and thrive in our
enviroment. The republicans want us to bend to their relidgiuos beliefs, and treat people unequally, based on sex.
I live in a very small town in Oregon, raising pigs and fighting weeds. The world I see on TV is such a far away place. Here we believe in equallity for all people reguardless of race or sex, as our consitition promises.
Palin believes we as woman do not have the right to make choices about our own bodies. This means stem cell research and a host of other issues not yet dicussed will hamper our development as a nation, based on her beliefs.
I am voting for Obama, as all people are intitled to the same freedoms.

Owen: I believe that “ladies” were using their heads and not their hearts win they supported Hillary Clinton. Don’t to your man Obama. Ask him why he did not pick a woman (not just any woman, but a woman with 18 MILLION VOTERS) to go on his ticket – The “Dream Ticket”, remember?

Concerned:
Katrina was a disaster beyond the State of Louisiana to tackle. It took President Bush four days, to respond to a disaster of such magnitude. Probably because the colors of those affected, did not matter so much to him. The Republicans don’t care about the plight of minorities. Your convention was a clear indication of that. The Republican Party has become the party of Whites in an America that continues to witness a more diverse population. The country is changing, but the Republican Party is stuck in the ideation of the past.

Obama will not change the public school system until he is no longer in favor of the union. The union is ruining the system. Anyway, I am a woman voting on issues that matter most to me, and let me tell you, Obama is no where near anything i stand for. I support McCain and Palin. I think that maybe she has used the wrong wording in her speech about Iraq being God’s will, but as a Christian I do understand what she is saying. I am sorry but hundred’s of thousand’s of Iraqi’s died at Saddam’s hands on a yearly basis, you can not tell me that they are better off w/out him. Also I am against abortion. My believe tells me if you are raped or a product of incest go take the plan b pill, this will stop the egg from implanting into your uterus, thus preventing the pregnancy. I was raised in an abstinance only household and my school never really taught about protection, but i think maybe in the 4 yrs of high school i know of 3 girls that got pregnant. It does not fail, but kids will do what they want. No one here knows what type of protection her daughter was using. Protection (condoms, birth control) are not 100%, they both fail at times. The only 100% is abstinance. If you really thing roe v wade will be overturned if they win you are kidding yourself anyway. Back to the subject. Obama is not a reformer. No one was complaining while our economy was booming, now in the past yr and half things have gone down hill. Look at the facts: Wasnt it 2 years ago when we voted in mostly democrates into congress? Isn’t it after they took office that things started to fail? I think yeah bush had hand in this, but honestly, he can not do anything w/o congress…

Harry you said…”Kind or curious how many radicals become college educators–but is it education or brainwashing?”….well ask all those Doctors coming out of college….wait a minute don’t have many of them these days do we? But since college does tend to make the mind expand and build on history and lessons learned – yep, they probably do become more “liberal” – respect for human beings and individual dignity tends to make one more liberal – kind of like a Republican going to jail: he’ll call for his attorney and become a strong Democrat. Haven’t seen it fail yet.

If you really care to see how good Obama does, check out his South Chicago district. Wear proper attire…pistol or two with ample ammunition, bullet proof vest a few knives…and never go at night.

It seems like Obama must be campaigning for McCain. I have listened to campaign speeches for elections from Carter until now. The speeches have been all the same. The proposals for reforming our schools sound the same. The work done has had the same result –> failing schools and lower scores. Obama’s proposals are more of the same –> absolutely no change. He proposes pumping more money into the same ole failing system. It sounds like we need Maverick types of change not pumping more money into the same thing. That is more what has been tried over and over. I say that accusing McCain for not pumping more money into the same failure is quite a compliment to McCain. No, McCain is calling for real change. Why don’t some of you go to the DNC and RNC websites and read the party platforms? Obama says that he will try to support teachers who don’t teach well and get rid of them if they don’t. Same ole same ole & how is he going to do that? He can’t –> they are part of a teachers union. McCain is for real change so why would he pump more money into something that is no change at all. Does Obama think that people are so empty headed as to think that this proposal is any change at all. Thank you Obama for campaigning for McCain (i.e. pointing out that McCain is not for the same ole failing systems. Secondly, the federal government cannot control every public school. It is too massive. The system must be designed to bring about its own change at the control of the people who want good education for their kids –> the parents themselves. McCain’s proposals are for doing that. With McCain’s proposal if a public school doesn’t perform, it will naturally decline while the performing schools (public, private, or homeschool) will naturally increase. The underperforming schools and teachers will naturally be shutdown and the performing ones will thrive. The control of where a parent’s child is educated is up to the parent and so should the tax dollars associated with that child’s education. Obama’s platform (go read it) says that a child has the right to a public education – no freedome to choose in a free nation – Obama is anti-choice. McCain’s platform (go read it) says that it is a parent’s right to decide(choose) on their child’s education whereever it is (public, private, home, or combination – be creative) –> freedom to choose in a free nation. McCain’s plan sounds like change and Obama’s is the same ole broken record. Thanks Obama for making that obvious.
Education is a very complicated with a much simpler solution. It is complicated because people are complicated. The problem is not just teachers. It is also students and parents. There are want to learn students and don’t want to (or care to) learns students and that usually coorrelates to the parent. Parents who want their children to learn want them to be in class rooms with other children who want to learn with a good teacher who can teach them. That cannot be accomplished with pumping money into a school system. The want to learners (regardless of race/color, gender, etc) have to be segregated from the don’t want/care to learners. This will happen naturally when the parents have control as they should without pumping money into a system that does not accomplish that. Again, McCain stands for change.

I think charter schools provide some healthy competition for puplic schools. I also think they would possibly have less violence in them. Seeing that they can accept private funding puts them at an advantage over public schools. But seeing that they do not have to meet the same requirements as public schools may be a disadvantage.

it is painfully clear with each passing day that the Democrats nominated the wrong person…they should have nominated the only person who would’ve beat mccain/palin and been the best President that our children, our troops and America needs right now: Senator Clinton

Palin is not only a religious fanatic; she strikes me as being a vindictive witch. We don’t need that kind of crap in the Vice President’s office while there are wars going on and our economy is in the trash can.

After reading some of these comments, I was shocked to see McCain only sponsered 38 bills and not ONE related to healthcare or education.
Obama had several including medical refor for our veterans. Please do your research before voting or judging a man by his name or Lies about his faith. He is actually fighting for people in the US..

In response to Washak67′s post. Why is that when conservative woman run for office that their womanhood is called into question? The fundamental question is not how do you woman feel being used to get votes? Instead, shouldn’t it be: Why did the liberal platform not select as a running mate for their candidate the woman who received more popular votes than their nominee in the primary process? The question of do woman really support the issues of the McCain-Palin platform should not be funneled to the single issue of abortion. As if abortion is the test of a women’s independence. Shouldn’t all people be against the elimination of humans by default? Shouldn’t we address the issues that lead to unwanted pregnancy as separate from termination of an unborn child? In the case of rape shouldn’t we as a society support a woman financially in her medical expenses, and then assist her in placing that child, if still unwanted, into a home that will love that child. Isn’t this settled law as we found out in the Chief Justice Roberts confirmation process. As a father of a daughter if she was raped I recognize that the visible results of that rape are while important are insignificant to the hidden ramification of such an ordeal. I certainly agree that equal pay for women is a moral and legal issue worth fighting for and doesn’t the selection of Palin validate that. Through success women no longer have limitations. The Army will have the first 4 star general officer this year and she reached that level not based on her sex but on her performance. How on earth can you claim that women should have the same opportunity as men and then ask this question: Do you really fall for this when they parade their 5 kids in front of you and brainwash you into thinking that this is the right person to lead this country? Last time I checked more than half of all American’s are women and most of them have both careers and children. My own wife is more than capable of not only managing her work load but mentoring and raising our children and she would never hide them from public view. Isn’t brainwashing something you control? It is after all your mind. I reject your premise of the Iraq war as God’s Will in relation to casualties. By the way God should always be capitalized. Furthermore, the greatest Micro generation is doing an awesome job in this time of protracted war; I know I am one of them. You throw that figure out without any context or attention to the sacrifice that American Service members bear. I have personally done 15 death notifications and I know the price of war upfront and personal. Even though I have over 21 years of active service I plan to remain in the Army as long as possible. What has been your sacrifice for your country that you speak about it as if you were personally attacked? My guess is that you haven’t even found it in your heart to donate your time or money to support those that have serves and are in need. I really do believe all that and McCain is my man and Palin is my women. Where is your women on your ticket, oh that’s right she wasn’t even considered as the VP I guess Mr. Biden will have to ride the train and change his reading material to Cosmo, an Us magazine on the train and try to play a woman in the Hollywood produced production of the Shakespearean Obama candicy. Careful what you ask for you might just get it.

Harper:
The war in Iraq is a sin. We need to come home. Iraq is the wrong battle field

The Presidential election was too close to call. Neither the Republican candidate nor the Democratic candidate had enough votes to win. There was much talk about ballot recounting, court challenges, etc., but a week-long ice fishing competition seemed the sportsmanlike way to settle things. The candidate that caught the most fish at the end of the week would win the election.
Therefore, it was decided that there should be an ice fishing contest between the two candidates to determine the winner.
After much of back and forth discussion, it was decided that the contest take place on a remote frozen lake in northern Minnesota .
There were to be no observers present, and both men were to be sent out separat ely on this isolated lake and return at 5 P.M. with their catch for counting and verification by a team of neutral parties.
At the end of the first day, McCain returned to the starting line and he had ten fish. Soon, Obama returned and had no fish. Well, everyone assumed he was just having another ‘bad hair’ day or something and hopefully, he would catch up the next day.
At the end of the 2nd day McCain came in with 20 fish and Obama came in again with none.
That evening, Harry Reid & Nancy Pelosi got together secretly with Obama and said, ‘Obama, I think John McCain is a low-life and he is cheatin’. We want you to go out tomorrow and don’t even bother with fishing. Just spy on him and see just how he is cheating.’
The next night (after McCain returns with 50 fish), Harry said to Obama, ‘Well, tell me, how is John McCain cheating?’
Obama replied, ‘Harry, you’re not going to believe this, but he’s cutting holes in the ice.’

Hillary backers told the press “BACK OFF” on Palin. Things just get more and more interesting. LOL

To say Obama and wife are elite is almost humorous. They both grew up in very poor beginnings and have made it thus far in america from hard work and education. A previouis ignorant poster brought up they can’t vote for Obama because he’s muslim and wants to kill all infidels. Those are the types of people who are unemployed and don’t have a place to live and say they will vote for McCain, because his polices will change things. (even though his policies are bushes) Just unintelligent people.

Albert wrote: “Obama actually authored a lot of education reform bills in the Illinois state senate.”
Unlike the Liberal Left, MOST Americans believe in results. It’s not what you say or what you write, or in this case what you authored, what really matters are results of all of this reform? Obviously the reform bills didn’t work since Sen. Obama is not touting the “great job he did” for the Illinois school systems.
It is the Democrats who don’t care about children. They put the system and the unions before the interests of the children. That’s because they want to be able to use the school failures, and education in general, as a perennial issue. Vouchers is the only way to cure the broken system. We Republicans want to give all parents the opportunity to choose rather than being forced to send their children to failing schools. When the public schools begin losing their federal money, only then will they finally improve their schools.
Now as for Katrina, the difference between 2005 and 2008 was cooperation by the local and state governments with the feds. In 2005 President Bush offered to take control of the situation 3 days before Katrina hit. Gov. Blanco turned him down. President Bush and Homeland Security begged Mayor Nagin to order mandatory evacuations on Friday and Saturday. Instead Mayor Nagin ordered mandatory evacuations on Sunday–less than 24 hours before Katrina made landfall. Furthermore, Mayor Nagin instructed those who could not leave New Orleans to find shelter at the Superdome and the Convention Center, and then failed to provide food, water or even protection for those individuals. Ironically in a drill just the year before, they simulated a disaster in which they used the Superdome as an emergency shelter. They FAILED the test miserably. Instead of learning from the mistakes made during the drill they REPEATED the same mistakes–with the exact same results. Finally, Gov. Blanco didn’t send in the National Guard until a couple of days AFTER Katrina hit. Had Gov. Blanco allowed the feds to take control of the situation three days before Katrina hit, the results in 2005 would have been totally different.

hey drew,
there are many more positions in a white house administration that pres. and vice pres. Im sure Hillary can be more effective as the secretary of health and education, than as a vp. sure he could have locked up the election with her as the vp, but he would have wasted her talent and inteligence with a position that requires very little of both. Obama picked someone who can be a good vice pres, not someone who would win him the election
-Do you feel duped? because you should
Palin was picked because she’s a woman, and for no other reason. Maybe she can do the job. im sure she’s capable. but if the GOP wants us to believe that she is more qualified than the others on Mccain’s list (Lieberman etc…) then they have absolutely no respect for the very same people they calim to fight for. Pailin’s kids, her gender, her home state and her qualifications, have nothing to do with her being chosen as the VP choice. Its sad that she and the rest fo the GOP aren’t smart enough to see that. the GOP becomes more transparent with every election. sheep sheep sheep.

Actually, McCain’s education adviser has totally transformed schools in Arizona. If she can do for the country what she did for Arizona, education in this country will be improved drastically. On this issue, I think Obama and McCain both have very good plans, although McCain has a proven winner on his side.

If you think Obama will help public schools, check out the schools in his district. No wonder he sends his kids to private school.

“Midwayer1111 Guns are needed for wars”. …ha ha, and there’s probably more in South Chicago than Iraq! LOL, rhbate.

YOU MUST BE JOKING!
Ask the folks in Chicago what they think of Obama and his back-pocket buddies, the CTU (Chicago Teachers Union). Chicago public schools get 20 percent more money than the rest of the country. They have the highest paid teachers — to do what? Work a half day! Because Obama will support anybody who supports him: the CTU and their demands. Who suffers? — The kids suffer. The perks he has pulled from the Daly Machine did nothing for students; it did everything for Barak Obama and the CTU.
Obama doesn’t WANT real reforms — “Merit pay” on HIS terms (and the likes of the CTU), not on the terms of the American Federation of Teachers (that’s why they backed Hillary). Unbelievable Jake – you’ve opened another can of worms for your buddy.

Even though I will not vote for Obama I have to agree the education is very important because if you take a close look around the world especially China and India the help the university students with their school fees. McCain/Palin is not talking about education, medical,economy Palin had no idea who Freddie or Fannie is/was. Maybe they don’t believe/think education is important because Palin took 6 years to complete hers and McCain 3rd or 4th from the bottom of the list. I am not sure about Palin we women don’t know enough about her maybe she is putting her career before her children especially one with DS, one pregnant with little education. McCain/Palin lost my vote she is not qualified to be VP. I hope women see through her.

rhbate … if you think the GOP convention was something, you missed out on the THOUSANDS of protesters marching the streets of St. Paul. Hundreds of arrests. In fact, there seemed to be more people marching in protest outside the convention than there were inside for the rediculous “Night of the living Dead” GOP show. I did find it rather rude McCain’s speech was stopped several times from protesters in the audience. Sigh. Shrug.

Andy, and how is it Obama’s fault that 125 people were shot in Chicago? I’m confused.

I grew up in the deep south, where there’s thriving competition for and among private schools, and a very large part of the population sends their kids to these schools. The result of this “healthy competition”, is that good teachers go to good schools where there is good money. If you don’t have good money, your kids can’t have good teachers or a good education (or a safe learning environment for that matter). Public schools are reserved for poor kids, and troubled kids that got kicked out of the private system. Increased privatization means increased disparity between the rich and poor, increased class stagnation, and increased racial and class segregation.

Owen,
I’m sorry about your experiences, but….it is not Palin’s fault. Why is no one questioning why Obama can leave his kids at home and focus on his career? Palin has a husband to help just like Obama has a wife. Why is it that people say Palin is not focusing enough on her family and he is??? You are helping out the double standard. If it is okay for a father to have a career and a family, it is also okay for a mother. If your father had been home for you, the babysitter would not have had to care for you. Why would it be any different for Palin than for Obama? They both have families (like most of the rest of the country) and, both parents are capable of loving and nurturing the children.
On another note; there seems to be a lot of bashing of education. I will be the first to agree that there needs to be accountability. There are some people in education who should not be teaching. However, there are also MANY teachers working hard, trying to do the very best for kids. I work with students who come to school with no socks or underwear and wearing the same shirt for weeks at a time. Yes, I have high academic standards for my students, but how can I expect them to learn when they don’t have food to eat at home or clean clothes to put on. Let’s examine more than just education and REALLY help the children of our nation.
Furthermore, I am an educated woman (two master’s degrees and then some) and I don’t like how some people on this forum have suggested that only uneducated women would decide to vote for Palin. I am quite capable of conducting my own research and seeing that her philosophies line up with mine. I don’t need your help selecting a candidate nor do I need you to assume I must not have an education because of the choices I make in politics. Educated women can and do support Palin. And, they also edit what they post so that they don’t look uneducated :)

Gosh, after reading all of your logical and intelligent remarks, now I want to vote for BOTH tickets!
Folks, if you didn’t know who you were going to vote for before now, you obviously have no political convictions at all. It doesn’t matter if McCain is old, Obama is an elitist, Palin is religious, or Biden is a plagiarist. Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics. You might win, but you’re still Differently Abled :)

James Danley: Have you ever heard about the extremely successful, bi-partisan supported program, Head Start? This program is not as you suggest,“indoctrinating more of our children even earlier with Liberal ideology”. Head Start promotes school readiness by enhancing the social and cognitive development of children through educational, health, nutritional, and social services. Obama embraces Professor James Heckman’s (2000 Nobel Prize for Economics) recommendation for early childhood education because it cuts to the cause: deteriorating family environments. Since parents participate with early childhood education such as Head Start, programs are interwoven with parent education – that’s helpng 2 for the price of 1. Ask any teacher. Over the past 40 years America’s deteriorating family environments have become a continuing pattern – low education, single parent, bad food, no discipline, not reading, etc. By the time these kids reach public school, many of them are already in a negative spiral. I taught at a GED clinic for High School drop-outs and ex-offenders. My kids were also physically abused, ignored, malnourished, or struggling with undiagnosed learning disorders. By then it’s an uphill struggle. Is it just you, or do all Conservatives lack empathy?

Idahogirl, I do not lack empathy. As I understand it, Head Start is for low-income children. That is fine. But when every child is given free preschool it will become mandatory. Then that takes away the choice and infringes on the right of the parents to teach their children their own values.