Oh, That Joe! (No. 15 in a Series) — Biden Distances Himself From an Obama-Biden Ad
In an interview that aired on CBS, Sen. Barack Obama’s running mate Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., distanced himself from an Obama-Biden TV ad.
Katie Couric asked Biden about the "tone of the campaign" adding that "you guys haven’t been completely guilt-free, making fun of John McCain’s inability to use a computer."
Embed link – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SKjTqgjq8E
Couric was apparently referring to the fact that an Obama-Biden TV ad tried to make fun of Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., for being so out of touch he doesn’t use a computer — though as ABC News reported, the real reason McCain doesn’t use a computer is because of his war wounds. Small tasks make his shoulders ache, so he tries to avoid any repetitive exercise.
"I thought that was terrible by the way," Biden said of the ad.
"Why’d you do it then?" asked Couric.
"I didn’t know we did it and if I had anything to do with it, we would have never done it," Biden said, "and I don’t think Barack, you know, I just think…I don’t think there was anything intentional about that, they were trying to make another point."
- jpt
UPDATE: Biden issued a statement tonight, saying, “I was asked about an ad I’d never seen, reacting merely to press reports. As I said right then, I knew there was nothing intentionally personal in the criticism of Sen. McCain’s views, which look backwards not forwards, and are out of touch with the new economic challenges we face today. Having now reviewed the ad, it is even more clear to me that, given the disgraceful tenor of Sen. McCain’s ads and their persistent falsehoods, his campaign is in no position to criticize, especially when they continue to distort Barack’s votes on an issue as personal as keeping kids safe from sexual predators."
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Come on, he uses his fingers to work the Blackberry he invented, shoulders have nothing to do with it,plus there is voice software. Come on Joe be YOU. We in Pa love you for being who you are…nothing matches the lies they are telling. Where is the OUTRAGE against it
Posted by: clo sheridan | September 22, 2008, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm
A politician speaking his mind – what a difference from the Palin-McCain ticket that totally depends on scripts provided by aides of the Bush-Cheney administration!
Biden for VP!
Posted by: hank | September 22, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
Biden is sabotaging Obama’s campaign. Damn it, Joe.
Posted by: xyzaffair | September 22, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
Take his batteries out.
How can you screw this up Joe.
come on!!!!
Posted by: Omentum | September 22, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
McCain is out of touch.
Posted by: Omentum | September 22, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
hmmm. Geez obama you should really clue your vp in on the negative ads you plan to run.
Posted by: rachel | September 22, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
Cant wait to see the ads coming out where Palin is praising obama during the primaries
oh yeah and the one where she is asking for a job description for VP
Posted by: Omentum | September 22, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm
Joe Biden is an honest man running with a dishonest man … it is that simple.
Posted by: Francisco Cardenas | September 22, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm
Are you serious? McCain can’t click a mouse button because of WAR WOUNDS, pullleease. He writes, shakes hands, eats and drinks using those hands, this is crap. Poor ole John, Booo Hoooo. Well if he’s SO VERY VERY disabled, maybe he’s TOO disabled for the job.
Posted by: JR | September 22, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
“I’m Barack Obama and I approved of this message.” – Barack Obama. “Words? Just words?” Uh-huh. Sure sounds like it.
Posted by: Thank God for Karma | September 22, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
That “gaffe” is an example of why people, even those of us who are not supporting his candidacy, have real affection for Joe. That was a sincere statement– he thought that particular ad was inappropriate. Things like that, and the time he called for a wheelchair-bound politician to stand up, are not reasons to ridicule him. They are what make him authentic.
now, his clever little statements about Gov. Palin were far less charming to me. He was doing that clever put-down without appearing to put-down stuff– “I have a hard time preparing to debate her because I don’t know what she thinks, what her positions are.” Really, Joe? Your people haven’t taped any of her speeches, like that knock-out one at the convention? Your people haven’t looked at her record as governor or as chair of the alaska oil commission or as mayor? You think you know her, and you want to sound dismissive of her as an unknown without appearing to be dismissive. Sorry, Joe, that one didn’t work.
Posted by: moderate | September 22, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
Obama: Absolutely clueless!
Posted by: dl | September 22, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
Joe Biden is my senator, and I can tell you, he is distraught by this campaign. I can see it in his body language. I feel sorry for him, but at the same time, I’m going to give him some slack. He is taking one for the team. Barack Obama owes John McCain and apology.
Posted by: Kitty | September 22, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
If I were a Democrat, I would have voted Biden in for Pres. nominee to begin with. He’s the best out of the 4. However, it’s also just as important that he may not be another “yes man” like Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld, Gates, and McCain have been.
Posted by: so_lo_4 | September 22, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm
I just hope if somehow, McCain is able to pull through and wins, although I have to admit that Obama supporters are just too strong, McCain is able to raise his arms higher than he has ever been to celebrate his victory.
Posted by: young_voter | September 22, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm
I’m not a McCain supporter, but what the h*** does it matter if he can’t use a computer. BTW, I’m not a Obama supporter either. I’m looking for someone to support.
Posted by: Ron | September 22, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm
What difference does it make if McCain doesn’t or can’t use a computer? Email is a drag on the American workforce. It wastes a lot of time. Personally, I don’t really bother with it. If McCain chooses not to use it, so what? It was a stupid ad.
Posted by: Kitty | September 22, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
Biden is a laugh machine.
Posted by: notafool | September 22, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
McCain could use voice technology. People who are paralyzed from the neck down use email. McCain just didn’t want to learn something new. I can appreciate that because I’m almost his age and I don’t want any challenges, either. But I’m retired; I just putter around my own little life. McCain wants to run the world.
Posted by: Karen | September 22, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm
Jake:
Please, please…you can easily get a couple more “Oh that Joe” out of this single interview. For example, at about 2 minutes into the clip:
“When the stock market crashed, Franklin Roosevelt got on television and didn’t just talk about the, you know, princes of greed”
Um…FDR wasn’t president when the market crashed and I’m pretty sure FDR wasn’t popping on TV to reassure the people of anything during his administration.
SHEESH. WHY do these people get a pass? And Katie Couric, just sitting there nodding at this? Maybe she didn’t realize how stupid an assertion that was, herself??
Posted by: Lisa | September 22, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm
Awwww, McCain’s shoulder’s ache so he can’t type . . . maybe if he wasn’t such a big fat liar I could believe that . . . as it stands, I don’t believe it for one minute.
The ad was FAIR because John McCain said himself that he was LEARNING, so if he is LEARNING, that must mean it is LEARNABLE, therefore all the excuses being made for this LIAR are just a BUNCH OF BULL.
McCain is out of touch because:
- He doesn’t know how many houses he has
- He doesn’t know how many cars he has
- He doesn’t know the difference between an American made and foreign made car
- He doesn’t know who the Prime Minister of Spain is
- He doesn’t know about Carly Fiorina’s golden parachute
- He doesn’t know about Sarah Palin’s earmarks as govenor
- He doesn’t know that his campaign manager Rick Davis took 2 MILLION DOLLARS from Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac to provide “access” to John McCain
Either John McCain is a BIG FAT LIAR or he has ALZHEIMER’S!
Either way, he is UNFIT TO LEAD!
Posted by: Nobodys fool | September 22, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm
“FDR wasn’t president when the market crashed and I’m pretty sure FDR wasn’t popping on TV to reassure the people of anything during his administration.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | September 22, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
Barack Obama learned from the best. He never does anything unintentionally and Biden knows it.
Posted by: RL in Illinois | September 22, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm
“If LIES are okay, then pointing out that THE OLD GUY CAN’T USE A COMPUTER is fair too!”
what a sweetheart you are.
By the way, Clinton sent 2 emails in his tenure as President. Just thought you would want to know.
Posted by: notafool | September 22, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm
How many presidents before Clinton used the computer? Answer none. You don’t have to know how to use a computer to be a good president. All Obama and Biden accomplished with the ad was to offend most voters 40 and older. Keep em coming Obama, the hole is getting deeper, in 6 weeks it’s going to cave in.
Posted by: Kay | September 22, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
Notafool,
You mean a sweetheart like that liar Sarah Palin?
Thanks but no thanks for your McCain colored glasses . . . time to call a spade a spade and a LIAR a LIAR.
I notice that you folks never say you aren’t lying, you just try to change the subject or feign outrage.
Not gonna work this time.
If McCain/Palin are so great, why do they lie so much? Strange, don’t you think?
Posted by: Nobodys fool | September 22, 2008, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm
Kay,
It’s easy to hide behind the computer stuff, but the point of the ad is that McCain is out of touch with Main Street.
I provided a LONG and PARTIAL list of things John McCain said he doesn’t know.
Did I mention the ECONOMY is one of those things?
What do you think about that? Have all President’s known nothing about that too Kay?
Face the truth and quit trying to hide behind phony outrage – we are facing a financial crisis and we are going to send in two folks who know nothing about the economy, one of which helped create this mess?
And you are whining about a computer in an ad? People are dying Kay – time focus on the REAL ISSUES. This is not a popularity contest – this is our future!
Posted by: Nobodys fool | September 22, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
Trochilus,
And you turn a blind eye to all the blatant lies that John McCain is telling about his record, Sarah Palin’s record, and Barack Obama’s record?
That doesn’t bother you at all?
Why no press conferences? Why no interviews? Why the lies?
And you call Obama a head case?
Pot, meet kettle.
Posted by: Nobodys fool | September 22, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm
McCain cannot use a computer. Has he disputed this? No he has not. He is completely out of date. I don’t understand why this is even an issue.
Posted by: Pulease.... | September 22, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm
If the old fart cannot use a computer, why is that unfair game?
Posted by: John Kovacs | September 22, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm
If the old fart cannot use a computer, why is that unfair game?
Posted by: John Kovacs | September 22, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm
Good to see that decency and friendship transcend ugly politics.
BTW, lots of folks do not use a computer. Most of them are in their late 50′s and up. Lotta voters in there.
E-mail came out in about 92-94. It does not make a person smart nor does it mean a person will make good decisions.
Posted by: donbl | September 22, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
Typical – Critique of McCan’t is met by a reference to his war wounds, while any mention of Palin’s incompetence must surely display reprehensible cheavanism. It sickens me to hear reporters say that Biden should “go easy” on poser palin as not to disturb any mindless sensibilities. Don’t back down, Joe. Now is not the time to appease those who will not recieve your vote regardless. McCain is an out of touch old geezer who can’t even use a computer, and it has nothing to do with his disability.
Posted by: Bubba McGee | September 22, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
If McCain’s shoulders ache from his war wounds, and this is what prevents him from using a computer (never mind that he’s said he doesn’t know how) – THEN HIS AGE AND HEALTH ARE FAIR GAME. And they should be. This is the oldest man to run for a first term presidency, he has suffered war wounds, and he has had bouts with cancer. Why isn’t this being plastered all over the news, why isn’t investigative journalism being done on this? Whatever happened to full disclosure?
If McCain is kept from doing what MOST people consider a routine and integral part of their workday – using computers – don’t we deserve to know how much his health, age, and war wounds affect him?? God knows McCain brings up his war hero status often enough when it casts him in a good light.
Posted by: jon in maryland | September 22, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
I agree with ‘Clo Sheridan’! This is complete crap. McCain shoots low and now Obama can’? Come on! I will agree the Obama is a fool for stooping to his level but he had a right to. But more importantly, this is another reason why Joe Biden should not be on the ticket. He keeps going off message! Obama camp please get someone who can stay on message.
Posted by: Olaniyi | September 22, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm
By the way, Lisa | Sep 22, 2008 9:37:41 PM hit the nail on the head!
Joe could really stand for a little refresher course in American History, including the history of technology!
While FDR was indeed the first American President to appear on TV, it was for a limited promotion piece for the World’s Fair in 1939, fully a decade after the stock market crash. And FDR was not elected until 1932. As for the number of televisions, only a few thousand very rudimentary televisions — maybe 8,000 or so — were produced in the US prior to WW-II, and then there was a wartime halt to any such productions.
It was 1945 before they began to be produced for the mass market.
Sorry, Joe!
Posted by: Trochilus | September 22, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
Where’s that damn button? I know it’s around here somewhere, looked kinda red last time. Cindy???
Posted by: Really now | September 22, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
How many presidents before Clinton used the computer? Answer none. You don’t have to know how to use a computer to be a good president. All Obama and Biden accomplished with the ad was to offend most voters 40 and older. Keep em coming Obama, the hole is getting deeper, in 6 weeks it’s going to cave in.
Posted by: Kay
*********************
Hey Kay, I’m guessing that you must be under 40
years old, thinking no one older than you can use a
computer. You might want to bump that up past
50 YO (baby boomers). The majority of people at
that age have intelligence and are using
computers! Also this group will not support
another Republican
this time. Computer illiterate or not
Posted by: spacerook1 | September 22, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
Whoa Nobody’s fool–calm down. This blog is about the stupid ad Obama put out about McCain’s lack of computer experience. The fact is, it was a low blow since McCain can’t lift his arm high enough to type. Cindy combs his hair for him.
If you want to rant about the economy, well, Obama doesn’t know anything about either. In fact, all I’ve heard from Obama is we need reform but he hasn’t outlined what he’s going to do. He’s stayed pretty mute on the bail out crisis.
If you are refering to the war when you said people are dying, well I know about that too, since my husband is in the military and I know many other good people who have served in Iraq. If you want to be outraged on behalf of the people who are harmed in war, well McCain had almost every bone broke in his body. What no sympathy for him? He served our country too.
Posted by: Kay | September 22, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm
I don’t care if he can’t use a computer. I support John McCain because of his outstanding personal character and lifetime of service to our country and because he is a moderate who has worked extremely well with his colleagues on both sides of the political spectrum to cut waste and fraud in our government. I am not voting for Obama because of his lack of experience, his ties to the corrupt Chicago Democratic machine, his liberal “tax and spend” voting record and I am afraid that if he is elected he will surround himself with radicals — as he seems to have done in the past.
Posted by: TexasJimBob | September 22, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
While he may have some pain from his injury, I doubt it prevents him from using a computer. I bet he doesn’t use one simply because he doesn’t have any interest in learning new things. By the way, he flew some after rehabbing for the injury.
Posted by: hjay5 | September 22, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
Spacerook1–Okay let’s bump it up to 50 plus that Obama/Biden offended.
Posted by: Kay | September 22, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
It’s hilarious to read the whining from the McSame supporters here. McSlime is running the most dishonorable campaign in modern history and now you morons whine about Obama hitting back. Sorry but the Democratic candidate is allowed negative ads as much as a republican. I receive a push poll call taht asked me if I was concerned if blacks would riot if Obama was successful. Screw you people!
Posted by: pieceof cake | September 22, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm
What I like about Senator Biden is that he’s cynical and runs at the mouth, and because of that the truth occasionally comes out — a rarity for a national politician. Frankly I like to see the occasional humility and owning up to mistakes like this. Better that than the contortions the McCain campaign went through a few days ago when, rather than explaining that McCain simply misunderstand the Spanish radio host in Florida, he REALLY DID intend to insult the Prime Minister of our NATO/Afghanistan ally Spain.
Posted by: Mike in Seattle | September 22, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm
Key: “How many presidents before Clinton used the computer? Answer none.”
This is wrong. Bush the elder used a laptop.
More important than whether you USE a computer is that you understand the nature of today’s information culture and economy. Sadly, McCain fails on both points.
Posted by: Mike in Seattle | September 22, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
Biden should not have apologized for the ad. There is no legitimate excuse for someone in McCain’s position to not be able to use technology such as a computer or email. My grandmother was a quadriplegic for 40+ years due to MS. She could barely move her neck and could only slightly wiggle one pinky finger, yet at the age of 75, she learned to use a computer. She wrote her autobiography using MS Word, and sent email to friends and family daily until she died in her 80′s.
So now tell me, what is McCain’s excuse?
Posted by: Inkabinka | September 22, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
Sounds like Biden got corrected by the marketing department there at the Obama camp. He is a strong admirer of McCain’s .
Posted by: rafraf | September 22, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm
I think both sides of the campaign have run questionable ads. I give Sen. Biden credit for distancing himself from this. All the candidates have such a hectic schedule, often times, they’re not aware of everything that is happening in their own campaigns. That includes the ads that are being run. They certainly know about the one’s they participate in on-camera, but might be oblivious to many of the other ads run in their name. They leave the judgement call to the staff running their campaigns. This one was a bad call. The McCain camp recently ran a totally false ad saying that Obama sponsored legislation that would teach sex education to kindergardeners. The news media quickly corrected the misinformation in that ad, but the McCain refused to apologize for it. At least Biden has the character to admit a mistake even though he wasn’t responsible for it.
Posted by: Gabriel Feher | September 22, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm
spacerock, have ever had carpal tunnel or repetitive strain injury? Well, I do and I can say that clicking the mouse hurts my hands and wrists and elbows. I am right handed and I have trained myself to use the mouse with my left hand because I can’t use my right hand caus eof pain and numbness. Obviously you are too ignorant of the subject to make an inteligent assesment of McCain’s hand and arm problems. Old injuries hurt.
Posted by: Sandy | September 22, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
Joe Biden, god you gotta love him even when you want to strangle him. Obama chose Biden because he didn’t want a puppet who would just stand in front of him at rallys and just try to tear down Mccain and laud what a savior Obama is and how Obama was a POW for 5 years…oh sorry, I was getting them mixed up with someone else for a moment. Joe’s an honorable man and will say what he thinks, period! Obama is also an honorable man and will take it for what it was, Joes honest opinion. You won’t see a meltdown here.
Posted by: John from Texas | September 22, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
Oh yeah, remember back during the times when democratic candidates were trying to get nominated, Biden stated that Obama was not ready to lead and the presidency doesn’t lead itself to on the job training. That’s funny. Great job Biden, you are doing well for McCain. Haha. Obama served one term in the Senate. Truly inexperienced.
Posted by: BMR | September 22, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
WOW. First, when asked directly, Sen. Joe Biden gave his HONEST initial resonse, “I thought the ad was terrible”. THEN, when he probably got yelled at by Barack, he returns with a totally lame, “Well, yeah, it was a bad ad, but Sen. McCain has no room to point fingers at Barack!”. Has this campaign now totally devolved into a stupid & immature schoolyard fight? Personally, Im gonna go with Sen. Biden’s FIRST response. Barack’s attack against McCain for not using a computer was ‘TERRIBLE”. Leave it at that Joe, its more respectful.
Posted by: PhillyPaul | September 22, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
Let me guess, Biden is sooooooo upset and will drop out of the race so Hillary can step in. Surprise surprise!!
Posted by: Dave | September 22, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm
“FDR wasn’t president when the market crashed and I’m pretty sure FDR wasn’t popping on TV to reassure the people of anything during his administration.”
___________
When FDR ruled the roost, Tv had not been born…. or at least wasn’t available to the public.
He DID make use of the radio, however, and some of his Fireside Chats were noteworthy.
BTW THAT Democratic Party was totally different from this one!
Posted by: in retrospect | September 22, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
This ad was stupid because the people who the Democratic campaign should be targeting right now do not consider that someone who doesnt use the internet is out of touch. They wasted money and looked bad on this one, I hope they don’t repeat this kind of mistake again, we don’t have a lot of room for errors. Dems should hit the GOP hard, really hard, but on things like bad judgement, greed, McBush, lobbyists, economic crisis, failed foreign policy, McCain’s record of voting against raising min wage, against women’s rights, against regulations protecting consumers. Expose McCain and the GOP for what they are, just 4 more years of failure.
Barack Obama President 2008
Joe Biden Vice-President 2008
Beverly Perdue, NC Governor 2008
Kay Hagan, US Senator for NC 2008
Democratic Party 2008 for a better America
Posted by: Miguel | September 22, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
to-moderate
I agree with you about Joe being genuine, but I disagree he was trying to be dismissive of Palin. I’ve actually tried to find out factual info about Palin. Her speeches are “canned bush repub. rhetoric” The only truly original thing I’ve heard her say was at a rally when she said ” oil is a fungible commodity and you know they can mark the molecules…..” Don’t remember what she said after that, I had to go take some apirin.
Posted by: John from Texas | September 22, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm
He can say it’s mean spirited but it is certainly relevant. We do not need a Cold War, 20th century mentality leading this nation in the 21st century. So many things have changed, we cannot stagnate with backward, outdated philosophies.
Posted by: TSnow27604 | September 22, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
Dear Trochilus and Kay,
Thanks for all the tips about “calming down” and shouting – that really helped.
I am not paid for my comments, unless you count the satisfaction I receive knocking down all the LIES coming out of the Palin/McCain camp.
Now that I answered your question, I must wonder why neither of you answered mine: Why does the Palin/McCain ticket lie so much? Why do the supporters of Palin/McCain claim to be Christians, but turn a blind eye to all the lies?
A very simple question, but still no answer. Just alot of distractions about POW’s and husbands in the military.
I’m thankful for the service of the military, which makes it all the more REPREHENSIBLE that their lives are so cavalierly put at risk by, dare I say it, LIARS.
How can you trust a proven liar to be leader of the free world? Please explain – I am sincerely confused (and yes angered) by this inexplicable phenomenon from seemingly reasonable Americans.
Has George Bush set the bar so very low that you have accepted lying as a normal part of American government?
P.S. If you can’t or won’t answer the question, please save all the cute “fool” jokes – not funny and not an answer.
Posted by: Nobodys fool | September 22, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm
Hey Miguel! I hear ya! That’s my ticket too. Get that do nothing Dole out of office.
Posted by: TSnow27604 | September 22, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm
They say John McCain can’t use a computer…but just the other day when he was on Rachel Ray he said his favorite past time was barbecuing……..Or maybe he meant to say that his favorite past time is watching Cindy barbecue…Because who would season the meat, turn the meat etc..This guy is a big liar and will say or do anything to get elected….
Posted by: hobbs518 | September 22, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
Gabriel Feher | Sep 22, 2008 10:58:40 PM
questions ads on both sides, but somehow mentions only the McCain ad on sex education for kindergarteners. But Byron York in NRO made a very persuasive case with meticulous proof that the McCain ad was 100% correct!
http://article.nationalreview.com/print/?q=NzI3ZDUzOTE0ZThlMTU3MTY0MDI4ZTY0MTZhY2I2MGY=
As for Obama’s ads — Consider the views of Ruth Marcus, who is a Democrat, and who wrote an excellent column in the Washington Post about the dishonesty of the Obama campaign ads.
Here is a part of what Ruth had to say, as was noted in Powerline, here:
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2008/09/021580.php
“Obama has descended to similarly scurrilous tactics on the stump and on the air. On immigration, Obama is running a Spanish-language ad that unfairly lumps McCain together with Rush Limbaugh — and quotes Limbaugh out of context. …
Obama has been furthest out of line, however, on Social Security, stooping to the kind of scare tactics he once derided.
“If my opponent had his way, the millions of Floridians who rely on it would have had their Social Security tied up in the stock market this week,” Obama said Saturday as he campaigned in that retiree-heavy state. “Millions of families would’ve been scrambling to figure out how to give their mothers and fathers, their grandmothers and grandfathers, the secure retirement that every American deserves.”
This is simply false — even leaving aside the incendiary language about “privatizing” Social Security. As the invaluable FactCheck.org noted, the private account plan suggested by President Bush and backed by McCain would not have applied to anyone born before 1950. It would not have changed benefits by a single penny for current retirees like the nice Florida folks that Obama was trying to rile up. …
Obama’s ads on Social Security are equally misleading. “Cutting benefits in half, risking Social Security on the stock market,” it warns. “The Bush-McCain privatization plan. Can you really afford more of the same?”
Cutting benefits in half? As FactCheck notes, “this is a rank misrepresentation.” …
To Democrats who worry about whether their nominee is willing to do whatever it takes to win: You can calm down.
Posted by: Trochilus | September 22, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
PALIN & MCSHAME need to go away! I am tired of them whining, and copying Obama!
I don’t think that this ad was bad, and I don’t think that it was a ad. I don’t see how he is distancing himself, and He didn’t say anything out of the ordinary! I know that Mccain has a lot of gaffes, and you republicans are grasping for straws, but This won’t work
Posted by: Ms Gunn | September 22, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
it was clear that Obama didn’t like Biden’s response to Katie so Obama’s spin team went into gear and created a “proper response” from Joe. Obama is sick!!!
Posted by: MccainPalin08 | September 22, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
I think the fact that when Obama supporters lay out clear factual arguments against McCain, some conservatives claim that we are being paid by the campaign is quite telling. I know you’re not used to seeing policy based responses to posed questions but you ought to try it sometime. It’s quite interesting and enlightening. Or maybe you’re afraid you will see that McCain offers nothing positive.
Posted by: TSnow27604 | September 22, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
“Obama is financially connected to the Fannie and Freddie groups and therefore must have been responsible for the downfall!”
—————
ALTHOUGH he did nothing to shore them up, he wasn’t responsible for their downfall..
HOWEVER, he was the second biggest receiver of their kickbacks… and he was there the shortest time!
NcCain pocketed $15,000, a piddly sum compared to the short-termer’s $178,000;
some say Obama took even more!
In Illinois, Obama took in a lot of pork from his friends, including Rezko, who would put in for funds for low income housing and then let the pproperties go to pot, and default on payments.
Even today in Illinois, there is at least one such development begun under B O’s watch.. which is still an un-finished eyesore.
So, yes, although Obama wasn’t a big spender (back then) when it came to low -income housing and the current mortgage debacle, Obama was a BIG albeit relatively obscure player … especially when it came to cashing in.
I wonder if any of this money was ever declared on his taxes?
Naaah!
Posted by: eyes open | September 22, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm
oh make no mistake, they are not copying Obama .. they are in front of the issues, Obama is behind waiting for a poll to tell him which side to fall on. If McCain were copying Obama, we’d see more of the following:
• “I have a lifetime of experience that I will bring to the White House. I know Senator McCain has a lifetime of experience that he will bring to the White House. And Senator Obama has a speech he gave in 2002.” — Hillary Clinton
Biden’s comments on McCain: “I think he can be ready, but right now, I don’t think he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on the job training.” – Senator Joe Biden (If his own running mate has doubts about whether he’s ready for the job… shouldn’t you?)
Bill Clinton on The View TODAY: Clinton said McCain was instrumental his administration’s normalizing relations with Vietnam and said he had proven his worth to the American people.
“The American people, for good and sufficient reasons, admire him,” Clinton said of McCain. “He’s given something in life the rest of us can’t match.”
VOTE MCCAIN!!!
Posted by: Ralph | September 22, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm
McCain supporters:
Seeking someone to explain why Palin/McCain lies so much – can anyone explain?
In your world, do the facts matter, or are you in some kind of conservative fantasy dreamland where you only answer the questions you write like your candidates?
You keep changing the subject, but you won’t answer the question.
Predictable.
Sweet dreams – but of course you all dream day and night! lol
Posted by: Nobodys fool | September 22, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
John McCain in the New York Times, July 13, 2008:
“I am becoming computer literate to the point where I can get the information that I need.”
Oops.
Posted by: Danny | September 22, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm
Gov. Palin to Congress: “Thanks but no thanks on that bridge to nowhere. If Alaskans wanted a bridge, we’d build it ourselves.
“AMERICANS TO OBAMA: “THANKS BUT NO THANKS ON THAT SPEECH TO NOWHERE. IF AMERICANS WANTED A SPEECH, WE’D WRITE IT OURSELVES.”
Posted by: PalinPower | September 22, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm
Nobody’s fool–I don’t know what McCain lies you are talking about, please elaborate.
Obama, however, has completely flipped on every issue. He only says what everyone wants to hear. For example, I’ve heard him speak about his position on late term abortions at one event and say something completely different on the subject at another. He changes his answer depending on the audience.
Another was his basis for even being a candidate, his aversion to the war in Iraq. He said that he would pull all troops immediately once he became president. Now he says 16 months.
Posted by: Kay | September 22, 2008, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm
First, I think Sen. Biden’s comments show that Obama is a strong enough leader to bring someone on board that can think independently and will challenge and inform him – much like Lincoln surrounded himself with smart people who often disagreed. What a contrast to the pre-programmed, totally scripted and unavailable Palin. Second, I know quadriplegics and people in their 90′s who use the computer regularly – in fact rely on it. Physical handicaps are not prohibitive by any means. But what McCain’s lack of interest in learning to use a computer does show is a significant lack of curiosity about the future and progress. And it MUST make us wonder about his ability to comprehend and make decisions about a significant technology that is completely intertwined with the national and international economic, information and communication policies and functions. It just feels like McCain wants the world to go backward not forward – but progress marches on and going back will just continue to erode America’s place in the world. No matter how much McCain may wish it so, this is not 1980 and never will be again.
Posted by: Kate Mom of Twins | September 22, 2008, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm
Obama spent a million dollars on consultants to tell him how he could show he was better qualified than McCain – their answer: TYPING!!!!!!
Go McCain Palin!!!
Posted by: robert b | September 22, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm
Obama thinks he’s Lincoln, now Mom of Twins thinks he’s Lincoln! Geeeeze … duhhhh
Posted by: Abe | September 22, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm
Everyone is so worried about who is going to tax … it’s what the taxes are spent on that matters. The Bush tax cuts are great but the spending hsa to stop. Keep taxing the wealthy, the businesses, capital gains, etc and you won’t have to worry about helping the middle class. There won’t be an economy or jobs available to go to … therefore your middle class will become low-class. Get it? You all are so greedy and so ready to take what you haven’t earned and what isn’t rightfully yours for some “robinhood, Obamahood” propaganda. Think. Sure, tax the hell out of businesses, capital gains and wait and see what job you wake up to? We’ll all be working at McDonalds! I for one, admire those in business and have no problem with how much money they make as long as I’m being paid well and I really am happy with my income considering I have a high school diploma for my education. I make $60K/year (which includes some overtime). What have I done to deserve more? In reality, my company is paying me well and I hope those who run the company I work for continue making money. I don’t care how much their bonuses are. I am being paid a fair wage for my contribution and am sure I’m not qualified to do what they do.
Posted by: dontbegreedy | September 22, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
This excuse about the “war wounds” keeping McCain from using a computer is a bunch of malarkey. I know blind and deaf people that use a computer. There is technology now (that McCain is likely unaware of) that enables people with different disabilities to use a computer.
If McCain were trying to crank out code every day on a computer, like me to a certain extent, he might have a legitimate excuse, but not for regular but occasional correspondence and reading.
I believe not using a computer in this day and age is a legitimate issue, and does put one out of touch. Gone are the days when a computer is considered an exotic device, only accessible by geeks or technology experts. The computer is now a basic tool of communication and information access.
There is nothing false about hope.
Posted by: w_roos | September 22, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm
After promising to run a
respectful campaign centered
on issues, McCain is runnning
one that is lower than a
snake’s belly.
There is no Dem ad too low
or too negative. Give this
merchant of lies and distortions
a dose of his own medicine.
Posted by: anon | September 22, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm
Seriously, Kay, you’re kidding me right?
What lies?
- Thanks, but no thanks on the Bridge to Nowhere?
- Palin has not requested earmarks as govenor?
- Barack Obama is going to raise taxes on the middle class?
- Barack Obama is going to raise taxes on people making $42,000?
- Sarah Palin fired the cook and sold the plane on ebay?
- John McCain has never requested an earmark?
- John McCain opposed deregulation of financial markets?
- John McCain has always bought American cars?
All LIES Kay! This is just off the top of my head. I could give he/she a pass if they didn’t keep REPEATING THE LIES after they have already been debunked!
Do some research Kay – John McCain is taking you for a ride.
Posted by: Nobody's fool | September 22, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm
Save your sympathy. Mccain doesn’t have to use the computer, he has surrogate’s who are more than willing to do this task. Couric, why not do a CREDIBLE interview of Palin. American voter’s will not be fooled with this sympathy ploy. No Mccain, No Palin.
Posted by: luvienne | September 22, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
w_roos, If you believe it, it must be true…..
“There is nothing false about hope”.
That’s deep
Posted by: robin | September 22, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm
McCain’s smarter than both Obama and Biden. In fact he is alot smarter than the whole Democratic Congress. in the words of Ann Coulter:
“If the Democrats had any brains they would be Republicans.
Posted by: Registered Republican | September 22, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm
I’m voting for Palin/McCain cause I want all of mine and your children to be sent half way around the world, to fight for a cause that changes with the wind, and consider themselves Georgians all while their parents retirement is getting sucked up by deregulation and corporate greed.
Isn’t it great to be a Republican this year!
Posted by: Ironicrat | September 23, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am
“”the real reason McCain doesn’t use a computer is because of his war wounds.”"
Yet paraplegics use computers, people with severe arthritis use computers. Were there’s a will, there’s a way. It still doesn’t address why McCain has no KNOWLEDGE of modern communication media. Except for the Blackberry…which he created.
Posted by: lee-usa | September 23, 2008, 12:01 am 12:01 am
Maverick
cares for the people
Country First!
America Lover
Intelligent
National Election Winner
Posted by: Registered Republican | September 23, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am
I’ll agree with part of what “anon | Sep 22, 2008 11:54:42 PM” sez –
this part:
“There is no Dem ad too low
or too negative.”
Posted by: Trochilus | September 23, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am
This excuse about the “war wounds” keeping McCain from using a computer is a bunch of malarkey. I know blind and deaf people that use a computer. There is technology now (that McCain is likely unaware of) that enables people with different disabilities to use a computer.
If McCain were trying to crank out code every day on a computer, like me to a certain extent, he might have a legitimate excuse, but not for regular but occasional correspondence and reading.
I believe not using a computer in this day and age is a legitimate issue, and does put one out of touch. Gone are the days when a computer is considered an exotic device, only accessible by geeks or technology experts. The computer is now a basic tool of communication and information access.
There is nothing false about hope.
Posted by: w_roos | Sep 22, 2008 11:51:35 PM ………….. Every one is not a geek nor do they feel they need to use something that Has no relevance in their lives. Most people don’t need it. Yet the fad is forced upon everyday people by geeks who cannot see the world past their keyboard. I find Microsoft blue screens of death a good reason to stay off computers.Vista is a great example of why computers are not woth having. Built in spy ware.
Posted by: jeff | September 23, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am
Maverick
cares for the people
Country First!
American Lover
Intelligent
National Election Winner
Posted by: Luv my President | September 23, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am
Funny real funny all these posts about using a computer. Who really cares if he can or can’t it does not matter, in fact it might be better that he doesn’t and then he might really meet face to face with people instead of sending a email. Obama couldn’t even announce his VP pick he had to do it on email. I am not really all that into someone using it and I was a IT manager for years.
Posted by: Robert | September 23, 2008, 12:06 am 12:06 am
Gotta love the Joe!
McCain/Palin08
HillaryClinton2012
Posted by: Jill | September 23, 2008, 12:07 am 12:07 am
McCain earmarks:
The Nov. 6 article “McCain Breaks Own Pork Rule” inaccurately stated that Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) violated his own rules against so-called “pork barrel” spending. The Senate Parliamentarian’s office maintains that the provision was properly authorized in the Senate-passed version of the fiscal 2004 Defense authorization bill and did not need to be signed by the president to be considered “authorized,” as the article suggested. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-Texas), chairwoman of the Appropriations subcommittee on military construction, told Roll Call that McCain never asked her to put the $14.3 million project for Arizona’s Luke Air Force Base into the fiscal 2004 military construction bill
Posted by: Ralph | September 23, 2008, 12:10 am 12:10 am
Belle, i am not white. both my parents are Americans. i am a hard worker, i have my own mind, i can relate to how the economy works, i don’t ask for more than i’m willing to work for or capable of earning, i will never be a victim. I have been confronted with prejudice. Lots of Dem’s are victims. Not saying you are. Don’t know your circumstances but I do know if you list a ton of excuses, that tells me you’re “a victim”.
Posted by: Ralph | September 23, 2008, 12:17 am 12:17 am
Foolish–since Ralph pretty much summed up Obama’s tax fiasco and filled you in on the Plane put on e-bay, let me add that every governor or Senator has earmarks, it’s good business for the good of the state they are representing, the problem is too many earmarks, such as Obama. He has the most earmarks and pork barrel spending of any Senator. McCain’s pork barrel $0.
As for the bridge to no where— was the bridge built?
Posted by: Kay | September 23, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am
Anyone debating the proposed tax plans of both candidates after last week’s US financial market debacle are truly STUCK ON STUPID. Right her right now, the Republican Administration is trying to steal every last liquid cents out of our economy and all you dummies can do is argue on what is yet to be while the adminstration’s government/corporate mauraders are trying to coax Congress to turn a blind eye to a bailout that will reward the CEO’s associated with the plan. Stop bickering about tomorrow when the country’s future is at stake. Call your Congressman, hell email them or send a homing pigeon but stop wasting precious time. Tell them how you want everyday Americans to be bailed out of the financial chaos that Wall Street created and to stop rewarding the mauraders for bad behaviour!
Posted by: clarity | September 23, 2008, 12:27 am 12:27 am
vote mccain/palin
Posted by: guard 20 | September 23, 2008, 12:33 am 12:33 am
Next thing you know he’s going to distance himself from the Obama half of the ticket. That’s Joe Biden, the master of tounge-trippery.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | September 23, 2008, 12:34 am 12:34 am
Kay..the bridge wasn’t built, nor the money returned which, to me, means she is still guilty of taking pork.
Posted by: akskimo | September 23, 2008, 12:35 am 12:35 am
Right
Posted by: Jim | September 23, 2008, 12:36 am 12:36 am
McCain is running for President; he is not applying for a secretary or data base clerk position . Americans will vote for him based on the trust, credibility, leadership, and the unique quality of the Commander and Chief. If he can not type 60 wpm, we will provide him with a voice recognition software that can type more than twice faster that speed. Americans need him to reform our government to serve the country and the people, to fight corruptions, to stream line spending, and to bring back Americans’ dreams, NOT SOCIALISM.
Posted by: nocatnowaco | September 23, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am
Joe I always thought you where a free speaking individual. This is a clear attempt by obama puting words in your mouth. He clearly did not like what you said. This democrate is voting for Mcain/Palin
Posted by: chris | September 23, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am
Ralph–thanks I was just about to comment to aksimo-If he’s from Alaska he should have known that Palin had the ferry system upgraded to the little town of Ketchikan, population: a few dozen, and put the money into new road construction throughout Alaska.
What, did he think she put it in her checking account?
Posted by: Kay | September 23, 2008, 12:47 am 12:47 am
I bet Obama’s liberal media friends will also write up a fake cover story about about how the Democratic State Senator Mike Kernell’s son hacked Governor Sarah Palin’s email account and posted it on the internet.
Posted by: wired | September 23, 2008, 12:47 am 12:47 am
Ralph-same here. Too much time on the computer is bad for you, I guess McCain will outlive us all. Have a good one.
Posted by: Kay | September 23, 2008, 12:53 am 12:53 am
No, we didn’t ALL change our minds! A bridge to the airport in Ketchikan, not exactly “nowhere”, would have been nice, considering it rains there 8 days a week and when it is also blowing 50+ mph the 1500′ (or so) walk down to the ferry seems like miles! And the ferry is not much more than a rowboat with a 4 x 4 cabin on it. In fact, 99% of us Alaskans found out like the rest of America did…in the newspaper. But, of course, the people that got the most benefit from the pork live in her “neck of the woods”.
Posted by: akskimo | September 23, 2008, 12:53 am 12:53 am
akskimo – who cares? I don’t live there. Do it with your own money – not my tax dollars. I thought you Alaskans were a bunch of self-reliant libertarians who didn’t need any handouts… Guess I was mistaken. LOL
Posted by: American Gun Rights | September 23, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am
Ralph and Kay are the same poster talking to himself.
Posted by: nimbus | September 23, 2008, 12:57 am 12:57 am
PalinPower – how is that ever gonna happen with McCain so far behind in the delegate count and slipping fast in the popular vote polls?
Posted by: nimbus | September 23, 2008, 12:58 am 12:58 am
Biden was the one that said “Obama would be a President in training”
Hillary said he could not answer the phone at 3AM and make executive decisions.
There is a reason they said this! because they believe it is true!!!
Posted by: maryt | September 23, 2008, 1:00 am 1:00 am
I seriously have grave doubts about anybody who thinks they can run the economy but has no clue how to use a computer. McCain is out of touch.
Posted by: patty patts | September 23, 2008, 1:00 am 1:00 am
Yes, I am older than 10 and I DO live in Alaska…born and raised here actually. I don’t know what ferry service she “upgraded”. The ferry I am referring to only runs from the aiport (which is on an island)to the mainlaind..Ketchikan. As for the Alaska Marine Highway System there have been serious cuts and schedule reductions to those runs in Southeast Alaska.
Posted by: akskimo | September 23, 2008, 1:02 am 1:02 am
As I said, Obama liberal friends would lie and make up a cover story for the Obama supporter breaking the law. Democratic State Senator Mike Kernell is an Obama supporter.
I bet Obama’s liberal media friends will also write up a fake cover story about about how the Democratic State Senator Mike Kernell’s son hacked Governor Sarah Palin’s email account and posted it on the internet.
Posted by: Wired | September 23, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am
The Obama code word of the day. Deregulation. Use your computer for something useful like reading.
The truth about why they hate McCain and Palin. They make them feel ashamed and when someone makes you feel ashamed you must destroy them. McCain stepped up to the plate and he still steps up to the plate, for 26 years never asked for an earmark which have increased to 10,000 by the way, and he still won his state again and again even without the bribery, and AZ is booming. Palin stepped up to the plate, when fate dealt her a scary hand she didn’t say no, she said how will this make me better and stronger. So they hate because people like McCain and Palin make them feel ashamed.
Posted by: pennsylvaniavoter | September 23, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am
Listen folks, Palin is a joke. Women are NOT going to vote for her because she is a woman. Can we friggen move into the 21st century people? Do people think women are THAT stupid? REALLY? Palin would send women’s rights issues back 100 years. I don’t know about the women on this site, but there is no friggen way I’m going to let that happen.
Posted by: Mary | September 23, 2008, 1:18 am 1:18 am
The author must have it out for Biden. What has Joe done to him? Reporting the news to inspire discussion is one thing using it as some sort of personal vandetta is another the author should go leech some where else.
Posted by: Joe Craig | September 23, 2008, 1:22 am 1:22 am
That ad was so bad even Biden admitted it. I like his blatant lie in his statement later, pretending he never even saw the ad. Those men are a joke.
There is only one straight-talker in this election and that is McCain.
Posted by: Bob | September 23, 2008, 1:22 am 1:22 am
Neither one of them have the right to call foul on the ads! They have both stooped so low. At least Obama/Biden do interviews and Biden is allowed to answer questions spontaneously. Unlike Sarah who has to follow a script and is not allowed off her leash. I don’t want to vote for either one!
Posted by: akskimo | September 23, 2008, 1:23 am 1:23 am
Even if he could use email why would he?
He doesn’t need a virtual life, he has a real one.
Posted by: pennsylvaniavoter | September 23, 2008, 1:24 am 1:24 am
Americans will have lost their mind if they elect Obama. What is his most stated reason for why he should be elected? Hate for Bush. Well, that does not qualify Obama. To all of you Obama followers, put your thinking caps back on and think carefully. You are electing the president of the United States; this is not an MTV awards contest. If you wanted to elect Obama simply for the sake of making history, you now can do the same by electing McCain-Palin without risking the country.
Posted by: speedy_453 | September 23, 2008, 1:24 am 1:24 am
Barry Obama is the hypocrite of the century. He runs the most negative ads and campaign, and somehow the media and him spin it to make it seem like McCain is the negative one.
If Biden is ashamed of this ad, which he should be, I wonder what he thinks of the one where they claim McCain and his Republican friends are intolerant and think Mexicans are stupid and should shut their mouths. Yeah, where’s the hope and change in THAT one?
Obama is the biggest fraud of the century.
I miss Hillary.
Posted by: Bob | September 23, 2008, 1:25 am 1:25 am
Countdown to Biden’s dismissal
from the Dem ticket has begun.
Posted by: anon | September 23, 2008, 1:26 am 1:26 am
//Listen folks, Palin is a joke. Women are NOT going to vote for her because she is a woman. Can we friggen move into the 21st century people? Do people think women are THAT stupid? REALLY? Palin would send women’s rights issues back 100 years. I don’t know about the women on this site, but there is no friggen way I’m going to let that happen.//
This woman is voting for Sarah Palin. And millions of other women will too, and yes many will vote for her because she is a woman. What’s women’s rights issues? The right to get an abortion? How about the right for women to hold powerful positions? Isn’t that more important? How about women’s rights to be heard, to be respected, to govern, to be leaders?
Abortion is one issue, not every issue. And frankly, as VP, she does not have much say on those social issues.
Posted by: Marissa | September 23, 2008, 1:29 am 1:29 am
Barrack Obama may win this election but as someone in the military my sincere respect belongs to Senator McCain.
Posted by: FortuneFavorsTheBrave | September 23, 2008, 1:30 am 1:30 am
The hysterical part of this thread is reading all the comments from Ds lauding Biden for his “honesty” in admitting the ad was terrible … until he retracted the statement two hours later!!! I guess Senator Biden got taken to the woodshed by the Obama campaign. And then … even better! he claims he hadn’t seen the ad!!! (you know, the one he said was terrible!!) And then some complete non sequitur about McCain running misleading ads (so that means it’s ok for the Obama campaign to run misleading ads too??) He is a total comedy!
Posted by: gjd13 | September 23, 2008, 1:31 am 1:31 am
I would hardly call being a greasy pole climber making something of your life.
Obama could’ve used his education to help people, I am sure there are plenty of poor people in Chicago who could’ve used some defending. Or maybe you mean when he was trying to help the people living in asbestos and the going got a little too rough and it took too long he quit. Or maybe you mean when the people in Chicago were living in the cold and filth and he took money from their landlord to further his ambitions. Or maybe the one time he stood up and voted no, when babies were dying in a closet. If that’s what Harvard taught him, no thanks.
Posted by: pennsylvaniavoter | September 23, 2008, 1:42 am 1:42 am
Sarah is not ready to be president! McCain will most likely not live to fulfill his term. She can’t even speak without a script and then it’s the same cr@p over and over and over!
Posted by: akskimo | September 23, 2008, 1:44 am 1:44 am
Joe Biden’s vice presidential
candidacy is in its last few
days. He’ll soon be replaced.
Posted by: anon | September 23, 2008, 1:46 am 1:46 am
All of you republicans who say all Democrats do is “tax and spend” can eat your words. It’s the republicans that have left this country in the worse financial mess since the Great Depression. So much for the fiscally conservatives republicans. Its going to take Obama/Biden to get us out of this mess. McCain/Palin – Thanks, But No Thanks”. McCain can put her on his wife’s plane and fly her back to Alaska on November 5.
Obama/Biden 08!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
Posted by: AngieJ | September 23, 2008, 1:53 am 1:53 am
McCain/Palin all the way to
a nation always at war and
an economy on life support.
Obama/Clinton ’08
Posted by: anon | September 23, 2008, 1:55 am 1:55 am
McCain-Palin will make history this November. We will elect the first woman vice president of the US. Even Palin is more prepared for the presidency than Barack Hussein. She has had actual govermental responsibilities while Obama thinks that running a political campaign and doing community service for an america hating church is sufficient preparation. In fact, because of this so called “service” Obama now feels entitled to be the next president.
Posted by: speedy_453 | September 23, 2008, 1:56 am 1:56 am
McCain/Palin all the way to
monumental disaster.
Obama/Clinton ’08
Posted by: anon | September 23, 2008, 1:59 am 1:59 am
Obama probably gave Joe a scolding for undermining his campaign.
It looks like the honeymoon is over for the Democratic ticket.
Hmmmm… McCain and Palin are looking better all the time.
They get along and work well together, plus their party is unified.
That is the team of Mavericks I would want working for me in the White House.
Posted by: SF | September 23, 2008, 2:02 am 2:02 am
Obama/biden 2008 to
an unprecedented
american disaster
Posted by: speedy_453 | September 23, 2008, 2:03 am 2:03 am
Biden will soon be history.
Obama/Clinton ’08
Posted by: anon | September 23, 2008, 2:03 am 2:03 am
Obama/anyone 2008 to
an unprecedented
american disaster!
Posted by: speedy_453 | September 23, 2008, 2:05 am 2:05 am
MARY:
Your vote is yours.
******
You can friggen waste it any way, on any one you want
******
Gabriel Feher | Sep 23, 2008 12:13:36 AM
Don’t you believe that children should be taught at home about “inappropriate touching” BEFORE they get to kindergarten?
So what would they be taught in kindergarten that would be grade appropriate? hmmmmm?
******
Kay:
It’s not the “earmarks” that are bad;
it’s the “pork bellies” that stink up the pot!
And as Emil Jones told Obama, his protege, “one man’s pork is another man’s steak”!
Obama, being a shrewd man when it comes to money, got the picture real fast and used it to the very best of his ability:
in earmarking Michele’s employer and affecting an annual increase in her salary of more than $200,00 per year.
in “assisting” his associates in gleaning low cost mortgages for building and re-habbing .
This was how Obama received much of the $175,000 in kickbacks from Fannie and Freddy.. and it should be noted that most of the properties on which the loans were taken were permitted to decline and the loans went into default!
And this is just a thimble full of the graft undertaken by Obama during his senatorial stay!
THIS is who you want for President!
As for me, though, I’ll take:
MCCAIN AND PALIN!
COUNTRY BEFORE BROKEN DOWN DUMBO-CRATS!
Posted by: just wondering,,,,,,, | September 23, 2008, 2:06 am 2:06 am
it’s like a bunch of people repeating there favorite cable news show talking points… let’s wake up america and vote for excellence not familiarity. Look what happened the previous two elections..
Posted by: daylene | September 23, 2008, 2:07 am 2:07 am
McCain/Palin like Bush/Cheney
are about as constructive as
a wrecking ball.
Obama/Clinton ’08
Posted by: anon | September 23, 2008, 2:11 am 2:11 am
>>>pennsylvaniavoter | Sep 23, 2008 1:42:07 AM
________
YES!
THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT I MEANT!
;-)
And I LIVE in Illinois and have recently seen one of the housing developments begun under Obama’s first term as a state senator…….
AND IT’s STILL UNFINISHED!!!!!
UGH!
Posted by: EYES WIDE OPEN! | September 23, 2008, 2:15 am 2:15 am
McCain/Palin all the way
to another trillion dollar
war and another trillion
dollar bailout.
Obama/Clinton ’08
Posted by: anon | September 23, 2008, 2:16 am 2:16 am
I just recieved an E-Mail stating that a sudden convenient illness will force Joe Biden out as Obamas Vice presidential candidate in October. Could it be Obama is regretting his VP pick? Every one in the world knows Hillary would have won him the Presidency hands down. Obamas love of self and blatant arrogance has made my choice easy: Go McCain-Palin !!!!
Posted by: robin | September 23, 2008, 2:20 am 2:20 am
Go McCain-Palin! Go Away!
Go Bush-Cheney! Go Away!
Obama/Clinton ’08
Posted by: anon | September 23, 2008, 2:25 am 2:25 am
just….In a perfect world children would be taught about inappropriate touching, etc. at home, before Kindergarten and older children/teens would be taught about the “birds and the bees” at home as well. Unfortunately, this is not a perfect world and many, many young children and teens are not taught any of that in the home. This would have helped those children and the “responsible” parents would have had a choice to opt out. Nothing wrong with that as I see it.
Posted by: imo | September 23, 2008, 2:27 am 2:27 am
Even though Senator McCain may have war injuries and wishes to refrain from repetative motion including using a computer he could still use technology for the disable that use voice command! What a lame excuse! He truly is out of touch…I thank him for his service during the war and I am humbled by his commitment but enough already! He is sucking it as dry as the sand in Iraq.
Posted by: Stockton CA voter | September 23, 2008, 2:31 am 2:31 am
Obama should never have been a senator let alone a presidential nominee. With the corrupt Daley political machine running Chicago even Al Franken could be a senator. The Democrats get more dead peoples’ votes in Chicago than anywhere in the country. Nixon was bad so Caretr was elected, went from bad to worse. Bush was worthless but don’t replace him with an anti-patriotic, racist (learn Spanish, Wright), corrupt (Rezko, Ayers), commie. This country has been at war with all that Obama represents for years—why would you want him as our leader? His wife is as bad or worse. Coincidentally, Obama and his wife are both lawyers in the Clinton mold. Is the Associated Press being paid by his election committee? I am an Independent and I approve of this message.
Posted by: Ron Powell | September 23, 2008, 2:38 am 2:38 am
Anyone that keeps signing blog entries with “Obama/Clinton ’08″ on the bottom of the messages is truly out of touch. Duh, it’s Obama/Biden ’08, for better or for worse. It’s obviously a subtly hope to win back the Clinton supporters that may be drifting around. And, likewise, questioning McCain’s faculties is very dishonorable and out of touch.
Posted by: Patrick | September 23, 2008, 2:52 am 2:52 am
Haha I love how Emma is so gullible that she (or most likely HE) bought all that gutter-trash rumors spreading about Biden planning to drop out. I seriously thought people by now would be smarter than that but I guess with the way bush almost won his second term in office (Democratic ballots were thrown away in 2 states) people not have enough intelligence to see through all the garbage being said about Obama and his party. If Emma were truly an intelligent woman, she’d be outraged to hear that as mayor, Palin allowed people to be charged for rape kits when they seek help from the police. I guess when you are a fanatical Pro-Lifer you will be against rape kits since it comes with the morning after pill. Ah well if McPain wins and we become a 3rd-World country, we all know which group of people to blame for it.
Oh yeah and Palin backed off from her ‘Thanks but no thanks to that bridge to nowhere’ after being repeatedly criticized about that blatant lie, now it’s all about the ‘Road to nowhere’ that she spent millions building with the federal funds that lead right to that bridge to nowhere that she supposedly turned her back on.
Have fun talking yourself out of that one Palin.
Posted by: Isaac Andrade | September 23, 2008, 3:03 am 3:03 am
To Stockton from Oroville Cal—Obama had to learn to use the computer so as to carry on all his under-handed dealings with Ayers, Rezko, Wright, etc. and if he is so ‘in touch’ how come he didn’t know how many states we have and that the president serves a 4 year term, not 5. What a dumb ass—”I used to want to be a lawyer, now I are one”. As an Independent, I approve of this message, wholeheartedly.
Posted by: Ron Powell | September 23, 2008, 3:08 am 3:08 am
The latest ABC/Gallup poll found that 72% of white conservatives, in a hypothetical situation where their drowning daughter was heroically saved by a black man, would want to hang the hero for having put his filthy black hands on her. The other 28% would move out of state and change their names.
Posted by: Hardlabour | September 23, 2008, 3:20 am 3:20 am
[though as ABC News reported, the real reason McCain doesn't use a computer is because of his war wounds.]
The real reason is that McCain is stuck in the 50s.
Posted by: Steve J. | September 23, 2008, 3:24 am 3:24 am
Women voting for Sarah Palin is like black people voting for Clarence Thomas. Just don’t make sense.
Posted by: Hardlabour | September 23, 2008, 3:25 am 3:25 am
McCain doesn’t type—that is what clerical staff is for. I am sure the white house has a secretary or two if an email needs to be sent. Obama was both an idiot and obnoxious for his ad.
Posted by: chattyway | September 23, 2008, 3:26 am 3:26 am
I don’t know what went on in obama’s small brain to chose Biden—but gee talk about a lapse in good judgement.
Posted by: chattyway | September 23, 2008, 3:27 am 3:27 am
Presidents don’t use email and kindergartener’s should stick to ABC’s not STD’s (sexually transmitted disease)which is what was included in the bill if Obama even read it.
Posted by: freedom1 | September 23, 2008, 3:27 am 3:27 am
Ron Powe, McCains Advisors are the ones who Own the Oil Wells. How about asking them why they are playing with todays Oil Prices, when America is suffering. They control the Big Oil, Which controls you dollar.
McCains Tycoons are playing still playing with American lifes. Who is ready to steal your Morgages? McCains Advisors, that’s who. It called a Take-Over. McCain is Multi-faced.
John McCain Funded By Soros Since 2001
Candidate’s Reform Institute Also Accepted Funds From Teresa Kerry
McCain has said ‘NO’, to gun shows.
Vote ‘NO’ to McCain. Or let ‘Big Oil Tycoons’, Own You!!!
Posted by: historyforgotten | September 23, 2008, 3:27 am 3:27 am
McCain is not running for President. His Oil Tycoons are. They already run Wall Street with Oil. Ask them to lower the price. Say ‘NO’, to Tycoons against a Free America.
Posted by: historyforgotten | September 23, 2008, 3:37 am 3:37 am
Hey just wondering…Some children are not taught about inappropriate touching at home because…some of the inappropriate touching is…happening at home!!!!
Posted by: Gabriel Feher | September 23, 2008, 3:46 am 3:46 am
And another thing…just wondering. Given your premise that parents should teach their children about inappropriate touching BEFORE attending kindergarten, how would they do it “grade appropriate”?
Posted by: Gabriel Feher | September 23, 2008, 4:10 am 4:10 am
Not buying it. If McCain was a data entry employee, I would buy the repetitive movement issue. At 72, he should be able to send at least 3 emails a day and surf at least 1 hour daily using one hand and a pencil to type. McCain just does not know computers and is certainly out of touch when it comes to simple technology. No excuses for him since he is so very wealthy especially with a wife worth more than 100 million. Biden needs to decide whether he is running with Obama or McCain and get some spine, some toughness if he wants to be VP come election day. Obama/Biden, McCain/Palin need to stop playing nice and get on with it. It is winner take all for 4 years of the highest, most powerful office in the USA!
Posted by: Lawrence | September 23, 2008, 5:36 am 5:36 am
Bill Clinton was a hero for burning his draft card. Quayle and GWB were burned at the stake for only serving in the National Guard. Kerry’s service alone should have got him elected. The fact that Obama nor Biden served while McCain spent 20+ years in uniform is irrelevant. Now they criticize how McCain copes with war wounds. …. The hypocrisy of the Religious Right drove me to the Democratic party. The hypocrisy of the left wing has now far surpassed that of the right.
Posted by: Oonogil | September 23, 2008, 5:45 am 5:45 am
I am pointing the finger back at myself when I post this, spending way too much time at this computer. I can’t fault a man who spends his time more productively. Call him out of touch if you must, but he’s getting more done than a lot of us reading all of this crap. Just remember, you can’t believe everything you read, especially in these comments! I’m so sick of all of the campaign negativity!
Posted by: beanniebaby | September 23, 2008, 6:31 am 6:31 am
Biden doesn’t even watch the Obama/Biden ads. Sounds like the rest of Americans.
Posted by: Dave | September 23, 2008, 7:08 am 7:08 am
Remember……Joe has a problem with his mouth.
Posted by: Independent minded | September 23, 2008, 7:16 am 7:16 am
continued
Instead, the list below concerns Obama’s associates and business dealings.
It is a sordid group, comprised of the America-hating, anti-Israel, and explicitly racial Left. There is big money involved, as with the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, and bizarre organizations to which money was funneled.
Obama’s milieu is the intersection of Chicago politics and the fringe Left; there is much to be explored and explained about Obama. Below is a partial list where Obama remains unvetted:
1. Trinity United Church of Christ. Obama’s 20-year membership in an explicitly racist church, a church with rhetoric too hot for Oprah.
2. Rezko. Obama’s ties to Tony Rezko and the 2005 purchase of the Obamas’ home. Obama funnelling money to Rezko’s sleazy businesses.
3. Ayers. Obama’s extensive ties to unrepentant terroist Bill Ayers.
4. Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC). Obama and Ayers together dispensing tens of millions of dollars supposedly for educational organizations.
Although now just being investigated, it’s known that money was funnelled to Ayers’ friend, radical Mike Klonsky, a founding member of the Maoist Party of the United States.
5. Minister Louis Farrakhan. Obama is surrounded by people like Rev. Willie Barrow, a friend and admirer of the anti-white, anti-Semitic Farrakhan.
If the media doesn’t do their job, we may end up with this guy as President.
Posted by: Al from NJ | September 23, 2008, 7:18 am 7:18 am
A Plea to the Media:
Vet Obama!
Below is a limited list of areas where the media has failed to investigate Obama.
This list does not include Obama’s many policy reversals or outright fabrications, like the statement that the Kennedy family facilitated his father coming to the United States.
It does not include Obama’s habit of voting %u2018present’ as a member of the Illinois State Senate nor his strange maneuverings regarding a born alive bill.
continued page 1
Posted by: Al from NJ | September 23, 2008, 7:19 am 7:19 am
How is it that 97 percent of African Americans are voting for Obama.
Isn’t racism on both sides?
Posted by: Rick from Pa | September 23, 2008, 7:21 am 7:21 am
Who is Biden running for again? I think he’s around 5 for 5 on the ingenious comments. Did Obama screen this guy before his selection?
Posted by: Mike | September 23, 2008, 7:43 am 7:43 am
Mike I gues u don’t know african american usually votes democrat more than 90% in all the recent elections.
So there is nothing racist in it.
Posted by: Mike Peterson | September 23, 2008, 8:17 am 8:17 am
The whole argument is bogus starting with Katie Couric. The Obama ad did NOT seek to denigrate McCain because of war injuriies. Clearly, it spoke to the fact that McCain is old fashioned. A lot of elderly people are frightened by technology. Katie Couric knows this. She continues to carry water for the McCain campaign.
If McCain wanted to use the computer and could not because of wara injuries, technology has the answer to that and has enough money to buy that technology. Let’s be real about this.
Posted by: LMartin | September 23, 2008, 8:41 am 8:41 am
Oonogil and the rest of the posters here don’t realize it is perfectly acceptable for time-strapped people to pick up their cellphone and delegate responsibilities. A president doesn’t surf the web in place of briefings by his staff.
Executives don’t do secretarial work–they make decisions based on the input of their advisors. Their secretaries do the emailing and responding. Do you think a president wants to go ON RECORD for every statement he may make, offhand, in an email???
Get real. If Warren Buffet can get by without email (he doesn’t use it) then certainly a president of the US CAN AND SHOULD AVOID EMAIL whether or not he may be physically handicapped (no, not “challenged”).
Posted by: Bengal | September 23, 2008, 8:46 am 8:46 am
IF JOE HAS A PROBLEM AND IS DISTANCING HIMSELF FROM THE ATTACK ADDS,MAYBE OBHAMA SHOULD RECONCIDER, AND DROP HIM IN FAVER OF HILLERY, WHO WOULDNT BE SO SQEAMISH ABOUT GOING AFTER THE OPPONANT!! AFTER ALL HE SAID IT FIRST MAYBE BHO SHOULD HAVE CHOSEN HER FOR THE JOB,MANNY OTHER THINK SO TOO,AND WE WOULD BE WAY THE HELL AHEAD HAD HE DONE SO!
Posted by: RELD1127 | September 23, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am
Wow, all those comments and not ONE McCain supporter answered the queston “Why does the Palin/McCain ticket lie so much?”
Oh well, I guess the answer is clear . . .
That’s what liars do!
You reap what you sow folks . . . and Palin/McCain is sowing LIES.
Can anyone dispute that? Just say you don’t care, but don’t say it’s not true.
And no list of things about Obama is going to change the truth about your candidate.
Time to face reality folks. John McCain and Sarah Palin are not mavericks or reformers. They are lying politicians.
Period.
Posted by: Nobodys fool | September 23, 2008, 9:25 am 9:25 am
Democrats have lied to the American People on more issues and laws than they have ever told their mother the truth.
Fact: other than in Vietnam, Korea and WWII, Democrats have comprized less than 10% of the Military.
Fact: Of all the Military appropriation bills passed by Congress, Only the ones by Republicans gave our young people the proper equipment.
Fact: Of all the VA Appropriations given by Congress only the ones by Republicans addressed the real issues of Combat injuries.
Fact: 2/3 of all politicans in Congress are multi Millionaires, and Democrats.
Fact: when Jobs where being shipped off to foreign shores only a few Democrats joined the Republicans call for it to stop. Rust Belt Mid West.
Fact: when housing market was all $250K homes and no Average income homes, Congress was dead silent.
Fact when housing market slumpted Democrats did nothing. When jobs are lost to illegal immegrants Democrats did nothing.
Fact: Now that it is their source of income, the Stocks Rigged Market. It ois bail them out cart blanche.
Fact New Energy bill pushed through the House yesterday, was a scam, it opened nothing but un reachable oil sights that would ADD to the cost of oil and added hugh government taxes and costs.
A Pelosi scam to bilk more Dimwitted American Poor into thinking the Democrats care. BS
Posted by: Butcher | September 23, 2008, 9:33 am 9:33 am
McCain/Palin ’08-’16 sounds really good.
By this time next year it will be Obama who?
If the Democrats in Congress had really felt that the war in Iraq was not right. It could have mustered the votes to oppose it and stop it.
They could have put there foot down and said no. But they did not, they thought of themselves first, the soldiers second and the American People last as usual. Now they play the anger card and sympathy for the lost sons and daughters, while they continue to dishonour those that have served this nation in every war with inadequate care, benefits and support groups.
Ill never vote DNC nor ever fight a war for them again. They are the scum of the Earth.
Posted by: Butcher | September 23, 2008, 9:43 am 9:43 am
Joe B is dead on. I think most of their ads are fair criticisms, but that one was just plain dumb, war wounds or not.
I’m an IT director and an electronics junkie, and even I don’t think that a presidential candidates’ technical expertise is a disqualifier to the office, or a significant indication that he’s out of touch.
That said, McCain has 1,000,000.2 far more obvious ways in which he’s out of touch. Obama-Biden would be far better served to focus on them.
Posted by: robsolf | September 23, 2008, 9:50 am 9:50 am
Well, Obama said he didn’t want to choose a “Yes Man” for VP. He got that!
Posted by: Paula | September 23, 2008, 10:06 am 10:06 am
When I see Joe Biden, I see a Vice-Presidential nominee who suffers from serious internal fights regarding his own party’s presidential nominee’s qualifications. It’s so apparent that Joe is having difficulty accepting the fact that he is serving as a mouthpiece for a rookie senator who only possesses a record of speeches.
I like Joe Biden very much and I beleive he is an honest and genuine person. I truly admire him and, through the few occasions I spoke to him in person, I saw firsthand what a remarkable person he is. The problem is, Joe Biden is much more qualified than Brack Obama to be presidnet.
As an avid Hillary Clinton supporter, I am truly saddened by the horrible actions of the Democratic Party leadership that denied us a candidate who is much more qualified than Obama. If Hillary had not been mistreated and unfairly pushed out of the race that she had won, maybe a Hillary-Biden ticket would have been possible.
Regardless, I can not and will never vote for a shady preidential nominee like Barack Obama who, for twenty years, have been closely associated with people who hold anti-American sentiments. It is, therefore, with a great sense of duty as a patriotic American that I will be voting for McCain-Palin in Novemeber.
Posted by: Robert | September 23, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am
“As an avid Hillary Clinton supporter, I am truly saddened by the horrible actions of the Democratic Party leadership that denied us a candidate who is much more qualified than Obama. If Hillary had not been mistreated and unfairly pushed out of the race that she had won, maybe a Hillary-Biden ticket would have been possible. ”
- Robert
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Sorry, but in America the person with the most votes wins. That person was Senator Obama.
No amount of whining is going to change that. Everyone played by the same set of rules. Everyone knew the rules in advance. Senator Clinton lost.
Part of being a grown up is accepting the good with the bad and facing reality.
We are facing too many big problems to be sitting around crying in our milk and pouting while the country goes to hell in a hand basket.
You don’t have to like Senator Obama, you just have to love your country more than you hate him.
Can you do that for us?
Real people are really dying and losing their life savings, so this is a little more important than “hurt feelings” this year.
Posted by: Nobodys fool | September 23, 2008, 10:29 am 10:29 am
Bob,
How many more chances should we give he Republican Party before you realize that they don’t know WTH the are doing?
Posted by: Nobodys fool | September 23, 2008, 10:30 am 10:30 am
I just don’t get Hillary supporters, like Robert, saying that she “won the race” and she was “pushed out unfairly”. What??? Where is that coming from? What reality is that based on??
It was a close race and got bitter there at the end, but how in the world can anyone think she won?! She had fewer votes. Period. The reason why she was pressured to exit the race before the very last vote was because it was mathematically impossible for her to win! Period. There’s no big coverup or scandal. Anyone with a 3rd grade math level could figure that out.
If her supporters are going to bring up Michigan and Florida – Hillary herself signed an agreement that they wouldn’t be counted – that is, until she realized she would need the results and started saying the opposite. Stop being so childish. Obama won. Either get behind him and support the Democratic platform or join the Republican party, but cut the BS historical revisionism.
The sexist attitudes toward Hillary were coming from the press and from some supporters of Obama, not from him nor his campaign. So, get over it and let’s get these repubs out of the white house finally!
Posted by: Jim Bouchet | September 23, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am
Obama has now come out and said he will support the use of military force in rogue nations and will also back a military surge (ha, ha) in Afghanistan. Just another 360, too many to count, from the King of Flip-Floppers. So all of of you libs still decrying war and death, and looking for a leader who won’t use military might, it looks like you’re out of luck.
Posted by: Jaycee | September 23, 2008, 10:42 am 10:42 am
Regarding a comment by LMartin | Sep 23, 2008 8:41:37 AM — your statement is wrong in one very important respect.
You say: “The Obama ad did NOT seek to denigrate McCain because of war injuriies [sic].”
No one said the campaign did it openly. That is exactly what is most deceitful and dishonest about the ad.
The fact is that human beings in the Obama Campaign, including Barry himself, knew that John has difficulty typing because of those injuries.
There were news stories about that fact going all the way back to 2000, and some even more recently. But Obama and the people around him decided to run the nasty ad anyway. And he and his campaign are now reaping the consequences — deservedly so!
By “distancing himself” from the ad, Biden is being a bit disingenuous too — and with his “update” statement (see above), he is all over the map.
Typical Joe Biden.
Why didn’t he just say, “That ad is disgraceful, and the campaign should pull it and we should apologize to John.”
Please explain why he didn’t do that?
I think we all know the answer to that. You Obama/Biden supporters are willing to see them do anything to win — even dishonor a man for war wounds he received on YOUR behalf.
Sarah Palin is exactly right. In spite of what Obama and Biden claim now, John McCain really is the only one who “fought for you.”
Did Joe Biden ever fight for this country? No.
Mr. “I wanted to be a professional football player” got himself student deferrments and stayed in school, thus avoided being drafted. When they ran out, he suddenly found something “wrong” and got himself a 4-F status.
Everyone who went through that time knew that some doctor somewhere would be willing to write that letter about a “condition” that would get you out of the draft. Everyone knew it!
Let’s see that letter, Joe.
Posted by: Trochilus | September 23, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am
Joe Biden’s comments again bring into focus that He clearly does not want this job. Looking more closely at His various statements (and that of former Pres. Clinton) They both subtly endorse ‘a great man’-Not BO. Biden’s lack of enthusiasm for His own campaign says it all about BO’s lack of judgement and failure of leadership. TOO LATE NOW !
Posted by: ripster24007 | September 23, 2008, 10:51 am 10:51 am
McCain is running a dishonorable slimy campaign. Oops! Can’t say that because he is a former POW. McCain is computer illerate.Oops! Can’t say that because he is a former POW. McCain is old.Oops! Can’t say that because he is a formor POW.Oops! Can’t say that because he is a formor POW. McCain picked the most incompetent VP ever.campaign. Oops! Can’t say that because he is a formor POW.McCain never wants to talk about his POW status in the campaign! BS!
Posted by: pieceof cake | September 23, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am
I can’t help wondering if John McCain would have been as magnanimous as Joe Biden was in his initial reaction to the McCain smear about his lack of technical expertise.
We used to like McCain, as recently as 2000, but we now think that Joe’s recent criticism of him has been right on the money. What happened to the other John McCain? Why did he sell out?
Posted by: Donna Hughes | September 23, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am
“Obama spent a million dollars on consultants to tell him how he could show he was better qualified than McCain – their answer: TYPING!!!!!! ”
That’s just too funny.
Posted by: Angelo | September 23, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am
Trochilus,
When will John McCain and Sarah Palin apologize for all the lies the tell daily?
You might not like the ad, but the simple fact is, its TRUE.
There is no getting around that.
Posted by: Nobodys fool | September 23, 2008, 10:58 am 10:58 am
Wait until Senator Obama’s crutch
( tele-prompter ) is taken away
Friday night.
McCain can’t type, Obama can’t think.
Posted by: Angelo | September 23, 2008, 11:02 am 11:02 am
Here’s a good comment by Paula | Sep 23, 2008 10:06:37 AM. She says:
“Well, Obama said he didn’t want to choose a “Yes Man” for VP. He got that!”
Exactly right!
But with his new “update” statement, it looks like Barry really got himself an, “e) All of the Above” Man!
Typical Joe Biden!
and as for Barry . . . Good judgment there fella! Ha! Um . . . isn’t that what you say you are running on? He should check on the dashboard. His judgment needle is vibrating down on “E!”
Posted by: Trochilus | September 23, 2008, 11:02 am 11:02 am
When Your running mate criticizes the distorted assertions in It’s Own commercials…Well thats something You cant ‘get around’
Posted by: ripster24007 | September 23, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am
Sorry to disappoint Trochilus, but I’m a WOMAN.
And you can’t dispute the fact that Senator McCain and Gov. Palin tell a lot of lies.
You can’t because they do.
Senator McCain is up to his eyeballs in the very lobbyist corruption and deregulation that he now decries.
He only mentions the parts of his past that make him look good, and not a word about the Savings and Loan Debacle that led to a government bail out that he was a big part of. (Google Keating 5 if you war wounds will let you.)
The only question Trochilus, is why none of this bothers you?
Under what circumstances is lying permitted, when you agree with the liar?
Posted by: Nobodys fool | September 23, 2008, 11:34 am 11:34 am
Nobody’s fool:
You are confused, it is Obama who lies everytime he opens his mouth. I have never heard him say the same thing twice. He changes his positions depending on who his audience is.
Last week, I distinctly heard him say he supported Paulson’s bailout plan, this morning on the TODAY show with Matt Lauer he said he did not agree with it.
He became the nominee because he said he wanted to withdraw from Iraq immediately, now he says 16 months.
He said he was for tax increases, then tax cuts, now tax increases.
He said he was for universal healthcare, now he admits it would bankrupt the govt.
He supported the late term abortion bill, now he says he didn’t.
These are just a few, there are way more, but I’m not doing the homework for you.
As for McCain, he says the same thing at every town hall meeting and conference I’ve seen. Saddleback forum was the same talking points he has been saying.
Obama’s “like a box of chocolates”, you never know what you’re going to get.
Posted by: S Adams | September 23, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
McCain is running a dishonorable slimy campaign. Oops! Can’t say that because he is a former POW. McCain is computer illerate.Oops! Can’t say that because he is a former POW. McCain is old.Oops! Can’t say that because he is a formor POW.Oops! Can’t say that because he is a formor POW. McCain picked the most incompetent VP ever.campaign. Oops! Can’t say that because he is a formor POW.McCain never wants to talk about his POW status in the campaign! BS!
Posted by: pieceof cake | Sep 23, 2008 10:55:12 AM
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Obama has the most liberal Senate record, Oops! can’t say that, you’re racist.
Biden: Obama is clean and articulate, Oops! can’t say that, you’re racist.
If Obama were white, he would have never made it this far, Oops! can’t say that, you’re racist.
Obama admitted to use crack, oops! can’t talk about that, you’re racist.
Can’t talk about, his mother, father’s heritage, grandmother, unless you call her “Typical white person”, or you’re racist.
You can’t talk about his lack of experience, you’re racist.
Can’t talk about his patriotism or flag pin, you’re racist.
Can’t talk about his big ears, You’re racist.
Anytime, anyone disagrees with Obama, they are called a racist.
Posted by: S Adams | September 23, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
If Obama didn’t know about the ad, and he claims that his experience running a political campaign is sufficient experience to run our country, shouldn’t he backup a step and take responsibility for the ad that he personally endorsed on national television?
Also, so what if John McCain chooses to not use the computer. My parents don’t use the computer – and they are very intelligent and well respected people as well – and they get along fine.
Posted by: Gloria Bonnell | September 23, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
Hey, NF, did you request to have the — Nobodys fool | Sep 23, 2008 11:42:40 AM — comment removed?
Good for you! In my opinion, it made you look really bad!
As for your prior challenge — Nobodys fool | Sep 23, 2008 11:34:04 AM — that I “(Google Keating 5 if you war wounds will let you.)” I will say this:
Unlike John McCain I fortunately do not have any war wounds.
But unlike Joe Biden (or Bill Clinton), I did serve honorably in the United States military during the Viet-Nam War. I had mortars fired at me a few times, but they all missed!
I was drafted, and at the time was not very happy about it. At the request of a family member, and before reporting, I went to be see a doctor in Irvington, NJ. I could have gotten a letter from him that would have gotten me out of having to serve — for what he called a “constitutionally bad back” problem.
But I decided right then that I wanted to be able to look in the mirror every day for the rest of my life. I grew up that day. I told the doctor I was going to “go for a second opinion.” He smiled and told me I was making the right decision. It was indeed one of the best decisions I ever made.
So, fortunately NF, I don’t have any war wounds you try to mock me about, though I did spend 13 months in the US Army in Vietnam, including All of the year 1970.
And, may I add, for quite obvious reasons on behalf of several close friends of mine, I do not particularly like anyone who does make fun of those who have war wounds. Your obnoxious comment, cited above, qualifies you for my “don’t particularly like” status.
Congratulations — if that’s what “spins your record!”
Posted by: Trochilus | September 23, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
Dear S. Adams:
Thank you for taking the time to actually attempt to answer the question.
I appreciate it. However, I disagree.
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“Last week, I distinctly heard him say he supported Paulson’s bailout plan, this morning on the TODAY show with Matt Lauer he said he did not agree with it. ”
Senator Obama agrees that something needs to be done, but he wants it done the right way. This is not a lie. This is called “thoughtfulness”.
Also, Senator McCain indicated in his 60 Minutes interview that he supported the bailout as well, and yesterday he was not so sure. What’s the difference?
It took more than a week to get into this situation, so a little “thinking” might be good, no?
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“He became the nominee because he said he wanted to withdraw from Iraq immediately, now he says 16 months. ”
This is not true. Senator Obama has said REPEATEDLY that we need to be as careful getting out of Iraq as we were careless getting in. That has always been his position. So once again, this is not a lie.
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“He said he was for tax increases, then tax cuts, now tax increases. ”
Senator Obama is for tax CUTS for the middle class, and tax increases for the less than 5% of Americans making over $250,000 a year. That has been his position for the entire campaign.
That is also one of the biggest lies that Senator McCain keeps repeating – that Obama would raise taxes on the middle class. That is a LIE, and yet McCain keeps repeating it. Explain that.
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“He said he was for universal healthcare, now he admits it would bankrupt the govt.”
Senator Obama is for universal ACCESS to affordable healthcare. His plan would allow those who are happy with their current insurance to keep it, and those who are not would be able to PURCHASE insurance at an AFFORDABLE rate. Those who are uninsured would be insured by the government, but that is not the same as insuring everyone as the McCain campaign continues to imply.
Senator Obama has indicated a willingness to modify his plans based on market realities caused by Republican policies like deregulation.
That is called GOOD GOVERNMENT. John McCain still claims he can balance the budget in his first term. Another lie? I think so.
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“He supported the late term abortion bill, now he says he didn’t.”
Senator Obama does not support abortion, he supports a woman’s right to CHOOSE whether she will have the baby or not. Abortion is a bad thing, but it is also a personal thing. We can agree to disagree about this, but once again it is not a “lie”, it is a disagreement.
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Once again, thank you for taking the time to respond, but as you can see, I have done some “homework” of my own, and I will continue to. I ask you to do the same.
Posted by: Nobodys fool | September 23, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
Why do you think they are hiding Palin from the media/press, she would absolutley reveal who she is. They are making sure she is kept under close watch until the election is over. If by chance Repubs when, she is going to set womens rights back, the church she attends believes they can change people from being Gay or Lesbian, she has a revenge mentality, she doesn’t believe in aborstion under any circumstances, even if a young girl has been RAPED! Who in their right mind would do that to any young girl/women? But people are following her and McCain down the Garden path. JUST BLINDLY!
Posted by: for real | September 23, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm