Oh, That Joe! (No. 22 in a Series) — Biden and the “Real” Hockey Mom
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This coming Thursday night in St. Louis, Mo., Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., will do battle with hockey mom and Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin in their first and only vice-presidential debate.
But in Hockeytown, USA, Sunday, Biden found a "real hockey mom" when he was introduced by Denise Ilitch, former president of Ilitch Holdings, which manages the Stanley Cup champion Detroit Red Wings.
"There’s been an awful lot of talk, at least in my territory, about hockey moms this election," Biden said at a rally in downtown Detroit. "Well, you just heard from the first lady of hockey, Denise. That’s a real hockey mom."
Following her introduction, Ilitch presented Red Wings jerseys to Biden and Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill. and their wives, Jill and Michelle, respectively.
"Thanks for the jerseys," Biden said. "You know, I love being here in a city where you call your athletic arena, ‘The Joe’," said avid sports fan Biden of the Red Wings’ Joe Louis Arena. "I like that. I like that a lot."
The Motor City crowd — 28,000-strong — roared its approval, as the loquacious Blue Hen continued with the sports references, bragging that if Friday’s debate between Obama and Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., had been a boxing match in Detroit, the Democrat would have been the clear victor.
"If last Friday night’s debate had taken place in the Joe Louis Arena," Biden continued. "It would have been a unanimous decision."
Minutes later, the crowd started a loud, "Lets’ go Joe!" chant, prompting Biden to step away from the podium and pause momentarily and bask in the Motown lovin’.
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Why do you hate Biden? What has he done to you?
Posted by: Ann | September 28, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
Why are right wingers are pointing out that because of their attacks on a mother who lost her son, she no longer wants his service mentioned in public?
Are they proud of their attacks on this woman?
Posted by: Ryan C | September 28, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
Next Biden will visit a State insane asylum and announce to the crowd he is going to introduce a real whacky nut who continually makes unbelievable gaffes, is continually putting his foot in his mouth, thinks he should be the next VP…”And here he is,” says Biden, “the guy looking at me in the mirror!”
Posted by: Zank | September 28, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
Odd, how Sen. Obama had to look down and READ the name of Sergeant Ryan David Jopek, isn’t it?
Phony as they come.
Posted by: Evets | September 28, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
Hi Kirsten.
We miss you up north, thanks for the post. Did you make it home for moose season.
Posted by: joe cnn | September 28, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
Joe may say some crazy things but HE KNOWS foreign policy. I feel very good about him as VP.
Posted by: cincyr | September 28, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
Is it that slow a news day?
Posted by: DMR | September 28, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
Poor Palin.
Poor, poor Palin.
Poor, poor, poor Palin.
Posted by: hank | September 28, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
Okay, so this series is supposed to be about Biden’s “Gaffes.” Lord knows, you would be up in the hundreds or better with the same series on Sarah Palin.
But where’s the gaffe here? Overuse of sports analogies, maybe, but I think few could argue that Senator Obama won the debate on points. Okay, not unanimous with republicans involved, so maybe I get your point, but it’s amazing how much you need t reach to keep this inane count going.
Thankfully, the American Public is rapidly coming to see what a danger a Palin/McSame administration would be to our country. And we’ll be putting Country First on November 4th by voting in Barack Obama as our 44th President!
Obama/Biden 08
Posted by: jackt51 | September 28, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
This “Biden Foot in Mouth” narrative” is as old and tiresome as disco. Get off it. This is #22. That’s more intelligent comments than we’ve heard from Gov. Palin in total. Finally to all you Repubs: WHERE IS MCAIN’S FLAG LAPEL PIN? Not long ago you hypocrites savaged Obama on that issue.
Posted by: R. Wood | September 28, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
Jake your despise of Joe Biden is showing way too much and too often.
If you want to be fair, there are about 5 new stories surfacing about Sarah Palin right now that other more trusting news media outlets are reporting on.
If you are going to continue trashing Joe Biden, I suggest you be fair about it and keep up on your little darling Palin and report about the other 2 ethic investigations that are surfacing and the other little stories about gifts, and how other world leaders refused to meet with her.
Posted by: l | September 28, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
Remember that Joe lost is wife and daughter in a wreck. He had to play both roles to his sons-Father and Mother-That in itself tells me what sort of wonderful man he is-this speaks volumes to me-He knows from experience how to deal with issues/grassroots middle class solutions. He had to be a leader, caretaker, nuturing parent, negotiator and problem solver for his children. Palin doesn’t have nothing on Joe at all-Not even close-
Posted by: Sophia | September 28, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
this is more vapid than the lipstick/pig thing. why not talk about Palin continually contradicting her bosses policy positions? That’s something that might actually affect us one day.
Posted by: Memnoch | September 28, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
Thank HP Boston,
I needed a quick list of lunatic right wing talking points to laugh at.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 28, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
I think it is great.
Normal guy funny…quirky…puts foot in mouth
and actually can answer questions…deftly.
and that is the bottom line.
Posted by: dl | September 28, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
HP Boston
that dog is dead…
they have been beaten for a year.
They don’t bite
and they don’t bark anymore.
Obama Biden is the ticket.
Mccain Palin
the worst ticket in our nation’s entire history.
seriously.
Posted by: dl | September 28, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
Dear Jake Trapper,
I pose the same questions to you that HP Boston posed to:
Dear Gov. Rendell,
Since I have read that you are now a member of Barack Obama’s truth squad, I am hoping that you will spread that sentiment both ways. I would like you to talk about Obama’s trip to Iraq and his conversation with Hoshyar Zebari which I and many other Americans is a violation of the Logan Act. I would also like you to bring to light his 500 thousand plus contributions from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. I would like you to tell your constituents about the Phillip Berg lawsuit which alleges Obama unqualified to run for President based on his dual citizenship. I would like you to relay the truth behind Obama’s questionable associations with convicted domestic terrorist William Ayers. Maybe show some of Reverand Wright’s sermons at your next press conference? Or perhaps bring up some facts from Dr. Lynette Long’s research into the Obama camp’s caucus fraud in Texas. Speaking of caucus fraud, how about Obama’s involvement with ACORN?
I am counting on you, Governor Rendell to do your truth squad duty!
————–*———————
HP Boston | Sep 28, 2008 4:02:07 PM
Would you investigate this and give us an unbiased report?
Thank you for your time.
Very Respectfully,
RixiRox
Posted by: ahcdesigns | September 28, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
again
ach whatever
those dogs are dead
you all have beaten them into the ground…
people saw them and realized there ain’t no bite there.
Obama Biden will be the next President and Vice President of the United States.
Mccain Palin
literally the worst ticket we have ever seen in our nation[‘s history
One was surrounded and at the center of costing us a trillion dollars… 3 TIMES!
the other who if put on a curve or scale of Vice President’s in our history would be literally put in the “Moron” or “mentally challenged” category.
literally
how scary is it when the comedienne playing the candidate is more equipped than the candidate herself.
Posted by: dl | September 28, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
Everyone please go to u tube and watch -“Burning Down The House: What Caused Our Economic Crisis?
Posted by: Cultural Amnesia | September 28, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
Biden is harmless. What’s more important right now is the status on the bailout. Asian markets open in a few hours and there is no plan. It’s very confusing. The Democrats support the bailout. Why are the Democrats helping rich investors and financiers? Shouldn’t they first try to help people who are losing their homes?
Posted by: independent | September 28, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
GOP has reached the apex of desperation when they have to bring up edwards.
Did you miss the palin cbs interview?
Posted by: also concerned in OH | September 28, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
in what regards charlie
“It’s very important when you consider even national security issues with Russia as Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where — where do they go? It’s Alaska. It’s just right over the border. It is — from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they are right there. They are right next to … to our state,” she said.
Posted by: also concerned in OH | September 28, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
Ryan C
Perhaps its actually because he didn’t KNOW her son’s name?
Do any of you really listen, really care, really KNOW what’s going on. Have you seen the Democrats playing games with this bailout, KNOWING full well it is their policy embrace of sub prime mortgages that caused the collapse? AND wow, lo and behold they try to put MORE sub prime mortgages into the bailout bill. You know their full of baloney when they insist the Repubs vote with them to give them cover. Obama is MORE of the same. Give Give Give to those who have no intention of working and take take take from those who do.
WAKE UP
Obama is an ego in a suit.
Posted by: Brenda | September 28, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
If Obama wins you can forget talk radio, guns, free speech.
Obama will eliminate any form of criticism–which he is clearly attempting to do now.
Obama’s government will control everything.
Please wake-up America.
Posted by: riley | September 28, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
“If Obama wins you can forget talk radio, guns, free speech”
If an Obama election leads to the suicides of Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity, I am all for it.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 28, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
Ryan why would you want someone to commit suicide no matter who they are?
Posted by: Cultural Amnesia | September 28, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
Biden was a great pick for VP – shows Obama put some thought into the decision.
PALIN, ON THE OTHER HAND IS A DISASTER.
John McGambler crapped out.
Posted by: Ed from MA | September 28, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
“Ryan why would you want someone to commit suicide no matter who they are?”
It takes away the power of absolution so we know Rush & Hannity will be going to hell where they deserve to be.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 28, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
“For years I have been concerned about the regulatory structure that governs Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac… and the sheer magnitude of these companies and the role they play in the housing market… If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole.” —John McCain arguing for passage of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act (S. 190) which he co-sponsored
Posted by: Cultural Amnesia | September 28, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
Could you imagine Palin talking to someone like Chavez?
“Yes!, I can see Russia from here too…If you
squint your eyes a little..I think.
Posted by: spacerook1 | September 28, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
“Um, let me be absolutely clear. Israel is a strong friend of Israel’s.”
-Barack Obama
Posted by: Cultural Amnesia | September 28, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm
Jake,
Why don’t you say anything about McCain’s propensity to gamble and what that says about his foolish risk-taking (poor decision-making), his never-ending associations with lobbyists, and likely ties to corrupt gambling interests.
Posted by: Archaeologist | September 28, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm
Obama’s campaign never allowed what unmanaged/unstaged press interviews while he was in Iraq.
Only one reporter–NBC’s Andrea Mitchell, saw right through Obama’s carefully scripted press releases from Iraq and Afghanistan and stated: “What you’re seeing is what some would call fake interviews because they’re not interviews from a journalist. So there’s a real press issue here. Politically it’s smart as can be, but deceptive and we have not seen a presidential candidate do this in my recollection ever before.”
Posted by: Cultural Amnesia | September 28, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
I’ve read this thing 3 times now and I’m still not completely understanding how this is a ‘gaffe’. Jake, I know you’ve fallen deeply in love with your concept of “## in a series” but you’re undercutting the premise when your readers can’t figure out what the heck you’re talking about. Stick to actual gaffes – it’ll make your argument stronger.
Posted by: Katy | September 28, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm
Joe Biden did a great job doing post-debate interviews for Obama.
Sarah Palin did a … hmmm … went jogging in Philly?
WHAT WAS McCAIN THINKING?
Posted by: Ed from MA | September 28, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
Biden’s funny. I like him.
Posted by: mik | September 28, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm
Joe Biden did a great job doing post-debate interviews for Obama.
Sarah Palin did a … hmmm … went jogging in Philly?
WHAT WAS McCAIN THINKING?
Posted by: Ed from MA | September 28, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
The woman gave obama the bracelet so he would remember her son’s name. Obama didn’t. In front of millions. Her son reduced to a political prop.
Posted by: geevill | September 28, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
AP — “On Saturday, Obama’s campaign targeted the 100,000-strong college football crowd at Ohio Stadium with a flyover advertising early voting and visits from staffers to surrounding bars.
“The Northeast Ohio Coalition for the Homeless believes it can round up 2,000 people from homeless shelters in the Cleveland area and get them to polling places. A donated van will shuttle voters from two shelters, including the city’s largest downtown. Seventeen other shelters are providing their own transportation.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | September 28, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
I love Jake’s Biden series. As a number of commenters have pointed out, most of the posts aren’t about gaffes. They’re more often than not rather fond anecdotes showing Biden’s old-time-pol campaign trail ebullience.
Among them is the occasional, inevitable gaffe. But even the gaffes are pretty harmless within the context of a larger-than-life, always chattering, big, affectionate puppy dog style.
It’s clear Joe’s having the time of his life in front of enthusiastic crowds being the surrogate for Obama.
Unfortunately, no one but “Oh, that Joe!” series is paying regular attention. So I thank Jake and ABC for what I find to be high-quality reporting on an entertaining part of this campaign season that the rest of the media are missing, to their loss.
Posted by: cjm51 | September 28, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
“Lets’ go Joe!” This is old time politics which I enjoy. I love the sports stories whats more American then that!
Posted by: Mark | September 28, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
Biden’s cheesy machismo, drunk-unlce bonhomie, and endless jock talk aren’t really all THAT endearing.
But it’s probably as good a way as he can think of to distract people from his so-far-disastrous “foreign policy”.
Posted by: Belle Starr | September 28, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
Katy, it’s pretty funny that Obama/Biden had to go out and find their own hockey mom. And they went one better than the GOP by having one from the current Stanley Cup champions Detroit Red Wings. For those of you unaware, that’s the Super Bowl of hockey. Sort of like, “my hockey mom’s better than your hockey mom”. How juvenile!
Posted by: It's the hockey mom, stupid | September 28, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
[Biden's] so-far-disastrous “foreign policy” …
including uncritical support of the invasion of Iraq, and his continuing intemperate support of Balkanizing Iraq, along racial lines, into three countries.
And how in the world does this blustering blowhard come off suggesting that his opponent, Sarah Palin isn’t a “real” hockey mom?
Posted by: Belle Starr | September 28, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
Some republicans are asking palin to step down and quit embarassing the party. I predict that after the debate she will be forced to step down. Only question now is, who will mccain pick to replace her? Obama/Biden 2008!!!
Posted by: pt | September 28, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm
“Some republicans are asking palin to step down and quit embarassing the party.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | September 28, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
At least Joe doesn’t think the Flintstones was a documentary.
Posted by: mila | September 28, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
Watch Joe Biden in the upcoming debate with Sarah. If he performs that snarling smile that he likes to use on opponents, he not only will destroy himself, the entire Dem. ticket will go down the drain. Should be entertaining.
Posted by: Ron | September 28, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
Joe Biden does have a disadvantage against palin. Joe can’t see Russia from Delaware…
Posted by: pt | September 28, 2008, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm
Palin stills believes man and dinosaurs walked hand in hand together 6000 bc.
If McCain puts Country First he should replace her for Lieberman.
Posted by: CLabs | September 28, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
It all comes down to whether or not you think we should continue the bush policies. If you think the war should continue indefinitely, while we spend $10,000,000,000 a month, and you think that bush has done well with the economy then mc-more-war is your man. If you think that it’s time we start to get out of iraq and do some positive things for the average American instead of just the top 1% then vote for Obama.
Posted by: pt | September 28, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
That’s an urban legend. I’m assuming since you can post on this site that you know where Google is. Use it- you’ll sound less ignorant.
Posted by: Jake | September 28, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
“If McCain puts Country First he should replace her for Lieberman.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | September 28, 2008, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm
I’m still trying to figure out why mccain confused the Packers with the Steelers while speaking to a Pittsburgh crowd. He said he used the names of the famous Steelers Defensive line of the 1970′s while being interrogated, too bad these guys weren’t even playing when mccain was being interrogated. He is either going senile or he was trying to pull one over on the Pittsburgh crowd, either way this is BAD news for mc-more-war. You can check out the article by going into google and typing “mccain steelers” and picking the first link.
Obama 2008!!!
Posted by: pt | September 28, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm
Anyone who thinks Sarah Palin is fit to be President because Vladimir Putin flies over her state is a moron.
Posted by: Bob Scofield | September 28, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
McCain has negotiated a debate format very favorable to Palin. There is limited time for responses which will allow her the one line zingers and sound bites that she delivers well. The questioner is not allowed to ask follow ups and there will be no canditate exchanges. If she manages to not dribble on herself she will blow everyone’s expectations out of the water.
Posted by: nina | September 28, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
I remember when the republicans took Michelle Obama’s “Proud of her Country” statement and spun it to mean the opposite. I wonder how they will spin the story about Mr. palin and his membership in the AIP which is an organization that wants Alaska to be separate from the other 49 states. Here’s a guy that doesn’t want to be part of the USA for Christ-sake. This also tells a lot about mccain’s decision making abilities. Obama/Biden 2008!!!
Posted by: pt | September 28, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
Joe…Good thing it was a debate and not a fight, because even at 72 and without being able to lift his arms above his head…I’m pretty sure McCain could pound Nobama in an actual fight..
Posted by: Sports fan in INDY | September 28, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
Just because mccain was a pow does not mean he should be president. The guy used to have a spine but now is nothing but a flip-flopper and a panderer. He’s also an OLD fart. The real straight-talker, John Murtha said that the Presidency is no place for an OLD man. mccain needs to retire with his millionaire wife. (The one he had an affair with after his first wife waited for him to come back from the war.) Obama 2008!!!
Posted by: pt | September 28, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
“Palin stills believes man and dinosaurs walked hand in hand together 6000 bc.”
Wow. That’s strange because I could have sworn they were all in Nancy Pelosi’s office all weekend using our money to buy themselves out of jail.
Posted by: len | September 28, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
Biden may be unceremoniously
dumped from the ticket soon.
He has not been promoting the
Dem ticket and Dem policies.
He has not been shredding McCain,
his poor record, his gimmicks,
stunts, his lack of judgment
in picking Palin, his barrage
of lies, his dishonorable
campaign tactics, false ads,
and a host of other things that
have to be dinned into the heads
of voters. In short, Biden is
not doing what he is supposed
to do.
Obama/Clinton ’08
Posted by: anon | September 28, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm
anon,
I disagree. Biden is doing exactly what he is supposed to be doing right now. He is working the crowds of blue collar, middle Americans in the battleground states. This is what the Obama campaign needs out of him right now. His job is deliver this voting block for the ticket, and quite honestly, keeping a little distance from Obama might be the best strategy to accomplish this feat. For many, this is going to come down to voting for the team that is the lesser of two evils. Biden is winning them over.
Posted by: Amy T | September 28, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm
i love joe. he’s pure awesomeness.
:)
Posted by: mm | September 28, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
Sarah is Obama in a dress…his gaffes are her gaffes…his inexperience is hers as well…his charm, her charm…they are one and the same
Posted by: InAlaska | September 28, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
If it’s not obvious by now, let me say that Biden is making the “gaffes” on purpose to make Obama look more serious and presidential. Biden is just another democrat propping up their little man-child.
Posted by: S Adams | September 28, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm
Joe Biden was chosen for VP, for his honesty free spirit and his experience!
He’s supposed to make a point when is needed. Sarah Plain was chosen for the position after only one meeting .The decisive factor was only the women’s vote and the prerequisite to be the John McCain cheerleader. She makes only scripted interviews and has very thin Resume. Sarah Plain VP? Thanks but not thanks!
Posted by: foreclosure | September 29, 2008, 12:44 am 12:44 am
What an ostrich and the Republicans have in common? Let me guess!
An ostrich bury its head in the sand and pretend everything is fine.
Republicans do the same and follow McCain!
The Republican ticket!
John McCain (We bomb everything)
Sarah Palin (I can see Russia from my house)
His aged and ambitious
She is young and motivated.
For him is the last chance to be President.
For her the last chance to be his cheerleader.
Their story SPIN, LIES and LIPSTICK
The last two days of the campaign confirmed that McCain -Plain are the most inadequate people to run this country. If Obama was O’Brian and he was white and not black,
He would not have had any trouble winning the election,
Posted by: foreclosure | September 29, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am
Now we know that not only Obama can lead, but also he had a plan for the future of this great country!
Now McCain can snooze tight. Obama can answer the 03.00 am call any time!
Rebublicans can spin like wash machine all day long! The truth is
Senator McCain past actually impairs him from to be flexible and confront the future with open mind. .Senator Obama foreign policy is moderate but also smart. That helps to keep our friends near, and or foes nearer!
Posted by: foreclosure | September 29, 2008, 12:51 am 12:51 am
Sarah Palin’s approval rating is now right about 10%.
Posted by: mara | September 29, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am
In Alaska – There are countless places where you can see Sarah Palin before a national audience – and it doesn’t look good. Obama and Palin share some kind of charisma, a few years in politics, and youth. That’s about it. One of them went to one of the top schools in the country, came out with honors, and one of them went to 5 college and went on TV. One of them believes that man and dinosaurs walked the earth at the same time. One of them charged women for their own rape kits. One of them proudly introduced the AIP in her own town – have you checked out their website? It talks a lot about home schooling, and a lot about government abuse, and suggests that Alaska keep its oil for itself. It is Ruby Ridege revisited. It is virtually not written in the English language. Todd Palin was a member until very, very recently. Why does Todd Palin hate America so much that he would belong to a party which wants its state to seceed from the union?
Posted by: mara | September 29, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am
“I’ll see your Bridge to Nowhere (or vote in favor of it anyway), and raise you The Garden That Never Was in Chicago”
Posted by: Lee | September 29, 2008, 2:23 am 2:23 am
“I’ll see your Bridge to Nowhere (or vote in favor of it anyway), and raise you The Garden That Never Was in Chicago”
Posted by: Lee | September 29, 2008, 2:23 am 2:23 am
Don’t you just love how all of Biden’s gaffes’ is billed as just “loveable Joe being Joe.” The media has been outrageous in doing this. Granted the pressure is huge for Palin and she has not performed well in several instances, but Joe is just Joe, and Sarah is just stupid? Double standard here?
Posted by: kathy | September 29, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am
I do not see what Biden did that can constitute a gaf. In-fact Biden has done a great job going to swing states and campaigning for his team. What’s Palin done? Oh yeah, she’s still in Alaska. Last time I checked that wasn’t an important swing state. Of course the people of Alaska are so tired of Palin and McCain that it would not shock me if Alaska went blue this year. I’d take Joe Biden of Palin any day of the week.
Posted by: Rick | September 29, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm