Oh, That Joe! (No. 14 in a Series) – Biden Says Obama Won’t Take His Beretta

Joe better get that in writing because Obama’s stump speech on gun rights do not match his record in the Senate.
BO doesn’t want people to know he is the most anti-gun presidential candidate in history.
He voted for stricter gun control trying to ban shotguns and some hunting rifles. He is against concealed weapons.
With Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Biden running this country–well you better buy a gun before Jan. 20th if you want one.
Don’t believe Joe Biden either.

naturally. In Obama’s America, Senators may be able to own firearms. And other people, like Rosie O’Donnel’s security detail. The rest of us? I doubt it.

Typical liberal politicians at work! Say anything to whatever crowd you are speaking to! It is okay to lie if it gets you elected! NOBAMA!!!! NOBIDEN!!

Funny enough, those are the kind of jokes that win crowds over. Nobody is taking any notice of Joe but he is dealing a great deal of damage for Obama on Mccain. Mccain is stucked with Palin and neither can campaign without the other. Obama will not be campaigning much next week while he is preparing for the debates, Biden will be in charge. Cant wait till next week. Also, all Obama has to do next week, is to hold his own and cream Mccain when it comes to the town hall and economy debates.

LOL. Good work, Mr. Tapper.
It is good to see a journalist having a bit of fun with a Democrat’s gaffes. For a change.

Isn’t Biden the guy on the back of the milk carton?

Those are the kind of jokes that win crowds. Funny enough no one is taking any notice of Biden but he is dealing a great deal of damage on Mccain for Obama. He knows Mccain’s strengths and weaknesses and who says he cant win the bluecollar voters. He sure knows what they like to hear because he has deep bluecollar roots. If there is anybody that can win Ohio and PA for Obama, it is Joe Biden and Bill Clinton because they both have that small town heritage and know what to say to those voters.

“Barack Obama ain’t taking my shotguns”
This bit of condescension will go down in history next to “Is this where I get me a hunting license?” LOL

Could Joe Biden be trying to throw the election? just asking, because in a speech before a crowd last week, Joe told the audience that Hillary was better for the choice than he was. Is this a pattern of what is to come?

It’s a tough call. Dems attack the Second Amendment.. the Republicans gut the rest of the Bill of Rights.

Joe owns a gun …. hmm he got an “F” in ROTC in college and was 4F (didn’t want to go Vietnam….)
Wonder if really knows how to use the gun???
Joe’s childhood dream was to play football and be in the football hall of fame…. tough to dream about that when the Hall of Fame didn’t even exist until Joe was 21.

I think Joe is a very emotional person, and a good man for sure. . .he’s just doing what he’s supposed to do. . .but Obama is NOT about to ‘gut’ the 2nd amendment. . .the GOP has NOTHING ELSE to run on, except perhaps abortion rights. . . . what else can they do ???
The economy is in ruins. .WHY??? . . .they’re economic policies have been all about DEREGULATION, and NO OVERSIGHT. . .the very government they denouce, now has to
step in and Save Us . .from THEM !!
Can you say STUPID ??? That’s what the eelectorate will be, IF they put McCain and Palin in office. . .she’s clueless, and he’s a mental case. . . Guns, yeah !! that’s the ticket. . .let’s scare people, and win on that. . .Good Luck !!!!

And Cmon you know that bitter comment was not derogatory. We all know what he meant but thats Politics. He has paid the price and he is stil paying. Just look at Mccain’s comments that the fundamentals of the economy are still strong, of course everyone knows what he was trying to relay but in Politics, you twist it the other way round. Thats Politics and it set him back that he may never recover till the elections are over. He has made those comments like fifteen times but Monday’s own came at the wrongest time and Mccain is sure paying the price. Look at the shift in Polls in just four days.

Obama’s exact quote on guns “I’m sure we can find away to honor the Constitutional right to bear arms, without letting AK-47′s get into the wrong hands”
This kind of tempered judgement is why Obama is up in the polls.
My republican friends, there is more to being an American than owning a Weapon of Mass Destruction.

And yesterday’s comment on Social Security may have secured Obama the Presidency unless Obama makes a grave mistake. Mccain has said things that should never have been mentioned at this time. How could he have given those comments on Social security this week. Obama is going to beat on it for the next three days, debates, and till the end of the elections. Bush made those comments and the Republicans lost the majority in the Senate. Now Mccain is repeating it. That is a perfect gift to Obama and the Democrats.

pieceof cake
Not yet.. Give it time he is old! He will get there and Palin will say she saw him do it and swear to it on a bible!

Hey, Joe, buy American!
Beretta is nice, but it is still made in Italy.
Remington, Winchester, Mossberg (Joe they are nearby in North Haven, Connecticut) make great shotguns available from American companies.
——
Wonder what Joe’s other gun is.

Evidently you don’t like Joe Biden and judging by the majority of the rest of your posts, you don’t care for the Democrat ticket as a whole. To criticize Joe Biden’s “gaffes” but not go after Sarah Palin’s bizarre comments at all (at the recent Michigan town hall meeting she responded to a question about economic empowerment for women by talking about sports…) seems pretty biased to me. It’s fine if you’re supporting John McCain, just be explicit about it and don’t try to peddle this blog as being fair and balanced.

McCain is in panic mode.
Moose-shooting thunder
thighs is slipping badly
in every new poll.
Palin’s confidence is
inversely proportional
to her extensive ignorance
of every issue that
matters. Repubs thought
for a while they had a
phenom. But she’s proving
to be a phenomenal failure
in convincing voters of
her readiness and competence
for the job.

Obma/Biden is a dead-end ticket.
Obama/Clinton will deliver a
decisive haymaker to Macain/Palin
on November 4.
Biden is wasting time instead of
stepping down voluntarily. He’s
not cut out for big things.

The record clearly shows that Biden and Obama worked hard to earn the ‘F’ rating on gun-rights that the NRA branded them with. Heck anyone with half a neuron can easily look up the Democratic Party platform for 2008 which calls for a ban on so-called “assault weapons” (in reality primarily a widescale ban on self-loading rifles).
What is even more disturbing though is the astonishing dishonesty Obama/Biden are employing to conceal their anti-gun politics. Such stunning deceit speaks to much more than the gun issue and brings into question what kind of leaders they would be in office. Perhaps the real reason Obama selected Biden as his VP is because they are so mentally compatible — well educated, intellectual, egoist, elitist, and profoundly dishonest.

Crazy Joe 13

Mr. America community organizer criticized the ´bitter American people who cling to their religion and rifles´. Now he doesn´t think they are bitter but lovely.
Nothing strange in Obama. His ability to say one thing and the opposite is really astonishing.

How is saying he owns two guns and that Obama’s not going to take them away a gaffe?
Isn’t a gaffe more like saying “I told them ‘thanks but no thanks’” when discussing a Bridge a candidate actually supported and took millions in federal earmark money for? Isn’t a gaffe trying to fire the head of the FEC (federal election commission) in a speech about Wall Street yesterday by McCain?
Joe has a couple of guns…no big deal.

Legal guns are not the ones that the country has a problem with it is the ones that criminals have that is the problem and stopping gun ownership would only increase the illigals having them. But people like Obama have to stand on something and when he is talking to the SF or LA bunch it is no guns but when he is in the midwest its we should be able to have guns. He knows how to form his speach to meet the needs of the ones he is talking to. Some day it will catch up with him but I am not sure before he is elected. if after that then we better be ready to fight his gun ban.

I’ll take Barack Obama and Joe Biden anyday over Unstable and Unable– McCain and Palin.
I once had respect for McCain, but no longer after he chose know nothing radical rightwinger Palin.
God forbid McCain is elected and passes away while in office. Ten scariest words in the English language: “Vladimir Putin calling on line one for you, President Palin”

Charlton Chew:
Whew…..were you the one with Obama in San Francisco that recorded his “bitterly clinging to guns and religion” remarks????
Sure sounds like you also buy into that philosophy………..

Evidently I’m the only one who finds it rather strange that the vice presidential nominee is vaguely threatening his own presidential nominee with the statement, “…if he tries to fool with my Beretta, he’s got a problem.”
It’s one thing to disagree with a running mate on an issue; another to publically threaten to create a problem for him over that issue.
————-Read between the lines. Im sure he said it in a light tone and was making the point that Obama wont mess with gun ownership laws. He isnt threatening Obama as you should know that or at least guess that.

FACT CHECK
A new Obama ad characterizes the “Bush-McCain privatization plan” as “cutting Social Security Benefits in half.” This is a falsehood sure to frighten seniors who rely on their Social Security checks. In truth, McCain does not propose to cut those checks at all.

Oh, That Sarah! (No. 26 in a Series)
“I said thanks, but no thanks, to that Bridge to Nowhere”

Biden has lost all crdibility with people because of his lies. The worse one, is telling people the truck driver that killed his wife and daughter was drinking! No such thing and he knows it! He never had any charges brought against him. It was Biden’s wife who wondered out into the intersection, and got hit.

Obama is smart enough to know that gun in criminal hand in the inner city is a problem and the right to bear arm to protect one”s home is a constitutional right and he respects that right where is the Beef. The NRA thinks that Ak 47 are ok and Al Capone and tommy guns are ok too get reaeeeeeeeel
Obama/Biden 08

I wonder if Biden carries a gun on his train rides home every night?

Marylou,
I agree with you. I noticed this a long time ago. He slurs and makes jokes as if certain people need this to understand the stupidity of what he is selling. Don’t work and don’t pay taxes and get a tax gift from those who do. There are not 95% people working. I cannot beleive how many reporters and newspapers there are falling for his line of deception. He has said that you only have to fool people until after the election. This is a game for Obama to prove the American people will fall for anything. He is more trusted than people who have any kind of experience. What exactly did he do in Chicago except use those prople as stepping stones. It is horrible there with crime. Where is the conscience of the people who knowingly are supporting him knowing how he really is? SAD!

What exactly did McCain do in
his 26 years in the Senate?
One of his many infamous lines:
“I am fundamentally a deregulator.”
Now he offers ideas to prevent
future crashes in financial
markets.

Both Obama and McCain will let
you keep your guns.
The difference is McCain will
send you off to war to fight
with them.

This phony attempt to connect with middle-America is every bit as lame and transparent as John Kerry in 2004, trying to sound down-to-earth by going into a gun store and saying for the cameras, “I’m here to get me a huntin’ license.”

Malarkey Joe explain JOYCE FOUNDATION and the Chicago gun ban.

Joe Biden just makes me laugh…….. To think we could have had Hillary!!

I know that Sen. Biden is a smart guy. I know that he means well. So why does he keep saying stupid, condescending things? Sen. Obama favors very strict gun control. An anti-gun Democrat President + a Congress dominated by anti-gun Democrats = more restrictions on guns, ammunition, carry permits, and gun owners. Sen. Biden has to know that.

In all seriousness,
This election is running so close, and there are so many problems to deal with, the winner might actually boil down to whatever the crisis of the morning is right around Election Day.
Last week, economic problems, financial meltdown, advantage to Democrats,
Today, possible Al Qaeda bombing in Pakistan, terrorism re-emerging, advantage Republicans.
Keep track of what’s going on in the nation and the world over the next five weeks, we might be able to figure this one out……

Ham-fisted foreign policies
and ruinous economic policies -
Bush and his wannabe successor
McCain have nothing good to
show for their many years in
politics.

Biden speaks his mind. But
it’s a disorganized mind.

Biden is dragging the party
down. Only Hillary can turn
the tide.

I am honestly laughing so hard that tears are running down my face. Was there stunned silence in the room??? Please share the audiences reaction!
I am worried all the rumors about Obama dumping Biden — I mean Biden will come down with an unexpected health issue and will be forced to leave the ticket right after the VP debate– so Hilary can run as VP. Just think of the fun we will miss out on.

Republican accomplishments
of the last eight years -
a disastrous war and a
decimated economy.
McCain has voted with bush
more than 95 percent of the
time. McCain has many ideas.
They are all failed ideas.

I thought ol’ Joe was cut of more common cloth. Why does he have to have an Italian shotgun? Isn’t an American-made Ruger Red Label O/U shotgun good enough for him?
I’m glad to see that Biden is falling into the John “I’m a serious hunter and gun owner” Kerry mode. You know – talk about your fancy over & under shotgun when most people use either a pump or semi-auto because they can’t afford a nice double.
The Second Amendment ain’t about duck hunting and finally the Supreme Court agreed on that. And it doesn’t just apply to fancy shotguns owned by career politicians. It also applies to Glocks, 1911′s, AR-15s, and AK’s as well as cheap Jennings or Lorcin .25 ACPs owned by some resident of the inner city.

I’ll vote for Obama/Biden, though I own nine guns. Why? They are NOT the Bushies who saddled us with another trillion dollar buyout!
Look, gun owners. There’s not much sense in worrying about owning guns if we’re constantly using them, because using them means a bunch of us will get KILLED.
The incumbent Republicans shattered the economy, or allowed it to happen. They deserve to be thrown out. The only realistic way to do that is to vote the Dems in for four years and RIDE THEIR BUTTS the whole time.

MARK, there has never been a Marxist in favor of gun control.

All the reporters and Obama’s 30 lawyers up in Alaska to dig up dirt on Gov. Palin. Biden told reporters in ’88 that he was at the top of his college and law school classes – both lies. He also plagerized speaches from lefties in Europe. Guess reporters already know that Biden is a phoney…that’s why there are no reporters following Biden around but dozens following Gov. Palin. Makes you wonder why son Hunter Biden, also with low grades, became a Sr. VP with MBNA Bank in Deleware in his 20s.

First the repubs tell us to be freightened of Obama he’s muslim. That didn’t work, so then we have to be afraid because he’s inexperienced..hello Palin, then they start skipping over some details in their commercials, then they start telling out right lies. Like the bridge to nowhere story with a few important details left out.Now Obama is going to take away our guns. Sorry don’t believe that and I live in a rural area and my husband is a hunter. Our economy is collapsing and we may skip right over a recession and right into a depression. I’m afraid of more important things than guns and the hype they try to force feed me

I am glad Obama is not out to take hand guns and shotguns away from honest people. His fight to keep assualt rifles and rocket launchers, out of criminal hands though, continue to be oppossed, by those who think anyone should get there hands on them. Its scary to think that American are willing to hand military weapons to anybody. Republicans and Democratics alike support Obamas regulations, on gun control. I just wish more Americans would just read his ideas, and comprehend, that he feels children shouldn’t own assult weapons. Yes, I know some far-rightys, wish to see an Abrams tank, or a fighter jet in everyone christmas stocking, but that happens to be what the military is for. How quickly Americans forget Waco and Ruby Ridge. When more than 75% of Americans fought, to restrict the use of Military weapons. Biden and Obama both agree that buying an assualt rifle, out of the back of a russians van, should be illeagal. But far-rightys would rather sacrifice their children, so the parents can shoot clay pigions. Palin would rather put a hand gun in a childs hand than to take care of Alaskas crime rate. Quick money, on a hand gun sale, in Palins pocket. She would sell a dirty nuke in a suitcase, if she thought she could make a dollar. Check her basement. Is that a tunnel to Russia?

Jaf,
You forgot…his running mate is “clean and articulate.”
Posted by: Hongqi | Sep 20, 2008 10:07:32 PM
I’m rolling on the floor laughing!
Biden is a joke a minute. I wonder if BO was aware of Joe’s clingy-ness with his guns.
All the McCain/Palin camp need to do is keep tabs on the flubs and wait.

Ruby Ridge and Waco, had NRA members, that supported the fall of the government. It is one of those ‘secret’ groups that use ‘war’ as a way to forceful peace. When you drop out of the NRA, they send you hate mail for six months, claiming your next door neighbor is a terrorist. These become the extremists. The parents of the Combine killings, were NRA members. Teaching hate and handing a gun to a child is a wrong message. Did you know my ex-NRA group, passed up three ‘sign-ups’ because of race. Two group outings convinced me that it was the wrong group to associate with. So I stopped supporting them, and recieved hate mail for six months. You do not have to join a militant group, to own a hunting rifle. I still hunt deer, rabbit, and squirrel every year. Thank you Obama, for trying to keep weapons, away from gangland terrorist. Free America from crime. Alaska needs help against crime.Palin has already given everyone guns, and crime became worse. Go figure.

The gun issue is always used as a political pawn. It’s all about the candidate posturing up to their supporters.
Given the magnitude of support required to ammend the Constitution(2/3 of congress, 3/4 of the States) it’s EXTREMELY unlikely there will EVER be an issue supported by that many Americans as to merit another ammendment.
The discussion for or against the second ammendment is a partisan waste of time.

Exactly.
I mean, it’s no problem for people to carry guns for sport or protection, but it becomes troublesome when it’s too easy for criminals to get weapons- and even military stuff.
To completely get rid of the second amendment would be a colossal task. People just want some regulations, that’s all.

i nominate biden as poster boy for the sarah palin special needs project.

If Obama is against guns that means Biden’s too. There should be no exception to the rules or he should change his speech. I wasn’t aware that Biden had guns. There is no need for guns in the home. Too many children were shot handling their parent’s guns that didn’t have them hidden. I am voting for McCain but I wish Palin would stop hunting and shooting in the wild for food when there is plenty of food to be bought in the store. Kerry is another one that hunts and shoots birds.

WestCoastMessenger,
Yes, it must be acknowledge there’s a debate over the interpretation of the word, but what worried me was how Palin didn’t even seem to have the foggiest idea that it was some sort of policy ( no matter how screwed up) of Bush’s. This can be seen from how she went on about Bush ridding the world of Islamic extremists and said “His worldview?”.
Maybe she wasn’t sure of the specifications, fine, even thought this is the corner stone of Bush’s foreign policy. But she did not seem to even recognize the legal implications of the word “Doctrine” and its policy implications either.

if hillary had been obamas v.p we would not be having most of these discussions. but no we can’t have a woman outshine the ‘one’ now can we, especially one that is smarter than him.
obama poor judgement selecting joe. please send him hunting for moose with sarah.

“The fundamentals of our economy are strong!”
(In the background, Lehman Brothers goes bankrupt, and Merril Lynch has to be bought over, and AIG is bailed out)
-Slow John McCain then?

The fundamentals of our economy are strong—-its the housing bubble and the crooks on WallStreet that are killing us.

Amen Miz….You are right with: “Evidently I’m the only one who finds it rather strange that the vice presidential nominee is vaguely threatening his own presidential nominee with the statement, “…if he tries to fool with my Beretta, he’s got a problem.”
It’s one thing to disagree with a running mate on an issue; another to publically threaten to create a problem for him over that issue.”
I found the whole exchange bizarre bordering on psychotic breakdown.

It’s funny how Far right Republicans can not interprate the constitution. Thats why I am a middle ground Republican that understands, that McCain made a mistake, when he said Obama wants to take your guns away. Biden tells the people, mcCain is wrong and Obama can not take the guns away, and those Far Righters lose the understanding of the Constitution. Republicans, come back to the middle groubd called Earth, and reread the Constitution. Obama is for taking assualt rifles away from criminals. Giving guns to everybody in Alaska, has not helped Palins crime rate. Middle Republicans that understand the law, are voting for Obama, because mcCain is out of touch with us. i am aa Republican who understands the law. I dont understand why mcCains Tycoons, are not understanding the constitution. mcCain was a good man once, but now he lets the Oil and foreign investors whisper in his ear of the quick buck. Please help McCain come back to earth. Americans for America. Not Tycoons for foreign investments. Except Spain. McCain thought Spain was in South America. Have you seen our allies rantings, on Palins and McCains remarks? Ouch. But Palin will have a chance to talk about more investment with Afganistan, next week. Hopefully the Tycoons will pull out a map for her, and point out where it is.

Injest, you are right. The family did only fire the hunting rifles. But the asssalt rifles were confiscated by authorites. Two German rifles, three M-16s, one AK-47, two shotguns. And four unspecified hand guns. The authorites wanted to confiscate the assalt rifles, when they were fired upon. Read more than one blog. Read many reports. And develope your own understanding. One opinion, does not make it ‘truth’.

I’ll bet that the “Berettas” owned by Biden are shotguns and he intentionally used the name to cause readers to infer he was talking about 9 mm pistols. Most people don’t picture shotguns called Berettas. Dems have gotten TOO good at these word games and we must be diligent. Liberals like Biden are more than happy to see everything BUT shotguns removed from our reach and use rhetoric like this to insinuate that Liberal politicians are as keen on 2nd Amendment rights as Conservatives. They SAY they want to remove “automatic” weapons from the reach of average citizens, but mean to eliminate access to much more. This while knowing darned well that the crooks will always maintain steady access to THEIR supply and get what they want by the time 911 calls bring the protectors around. Protectors who themselves are often charged and convicted for ‘violating the civil rights’ of the criminals.

The sad part is that most criminals get their weapons from law abiding citizens, who don’t believe in regulations. If a hunter really needs an automatic rifle to shoot a rabbit. I suggest, they stick to a bee bee gun. Less random shots.

you must fight fire with fire. if a criminal appears before you with a semi automatic, you must have equal firepower to get out alive. i do not own guns, except the H20 kind, but I don’t ever want a criminal to think I might be a law abiding citizen toting a single fire pistol. I want that thug to think I might have the same firepower as him/her. It’s that simple.

Kitty, thats why we must take assault rifles away from criminals. Thats like telling a woman who is pregnant, ‘you are being invaded. Kill it’. If a terrorist living in Miami uses a nuke in St. Louis, do you really plan on using a nuke on Miami. It starts with education first. Remember the Old West, where everyone had a pistol. If everyone walked around with cocealed uzis, would you shoot the first one who, looked at you funny? We need to support our law enforcment, unstead of investing in foreign countries. Read this twice if you have to, but just think about what you really want. A Free America, does not come from freedom of gun choice. It comes from taking guns away, from the unlawful. Any Good person with an assault rifle, can have a bad day, and start shooting anybody. Everybody still has a cold war mentality.

Imagine that Joe “he takes the train home almost every night” Biden owns 2 gun’s
BOTH Not Made in America!!

Voting McCain in Ohio sez:
The right to bear arms in the constitution actucally is so the people of this country can have a revolution, if some idiot becomes president and tries to change the laws and constitution and this nation from Demarcocy to anything else. The NRA knows this too, hunting is secondary.
—————————————-
Well you better lock & load then, you now own some very large Capitalist enterprises.

It’s funny how Far right Republicans can not interprate the constitution. Thats why I am a middle ground Republican that understands, that McCain made a mistake, when he said Obama wants to take your guns away. Biden tells the people, mcCain is wrong and Obama can not take the guns away, and those Far Righters lose the understanding of the Constitution. Republicans, come back to the middle groubd called Earth, and reread the Constitution. Obama is for taking assualt rifles away from criminals. Giving guns to everybody in Alaska, has not helped Palins crime rate. Middle Republicans that understand the law, are voting for Obama, because mcCain is out of touch with us. i am aa Republican who understands the law. I dont understand why mcCains Tycoons, are not understanding the constitution. mcCain was a good man once, but now he lets the Oil and foreign investors whisper in his ear of the quick buck. Please help McCain come back to earth. Americans for America. Not Tycoons for foreign investments. Except Spain. McCain thought Spain was in South America. Have you seen our allies rantings, on Palins and McCains remarks? Ouch. But Palin will have a chance to talk about more investment with Afganistan, next week. Hopefully the Tycoons will pull out a map for her, and point out where it is.

The only time the republicans talk about abortion and gun control is when they need votes.

WOW! I never knew Beretta made a shotgun.

Obama will Push for Place taking your guns on the states and local governments to do.
Obama is anti-guns
Obama wants to take away the nuclear power, Nuclear missles, Nuclear defense of this country. He has stated that many times in his career.
By Mr Bidens comments he knows and it proves Obama is anti-2nd amendment rights of gun owners. Showing we have a VP candidate who’s views and principles differ from the Presidental Candidate on the same ticket.
The Democratic Party is in Shambles as it is, thanks to Mr Obama. With it getting worse by the day.
From One Democratic voter to all, Please vote for anyone but Obama if you love America and want to see This Great Country Survive.

Is PALIN ready to take over? I don’t see Biden making big gaffes such as insinuating at a Second Cold War. Yes, I know she later did say they would use diplomacy, but her phrasing allowed her words to be so easily misconstrued. The Russians could keep on replaying “Perhaps so” to fan outrage if they wanted to. And she called Iran a terrorist nation, I’m sure there’re some cross citizens who don’t like America too much who are only going to dislike it further for being lumped together. Their president may say one thing, but I can assure you most average citizens don’t want to get into a war any more than we do.
Gaffes over small things or gaffes over foreign policy? Which is worse?
And Obama does not want to revoke the Second Amendment. He simply wants to make it harder for criminals to get rocket-launchers or sniper-rifles that are usually restricted to the military, and crooks in general, from obtaining fire arms to easily with more regulation (Checking of records e.g).

“If you think this is not about race you are wrong! The blacks in this country 98% will vote for Obama only because he is Black nothing more! God help us if he does win because 90% of them believe the Whites owe them something, and if Obama is elected they will demand we pay them something! — chuck”
I am more afraid of ppl like you, than i am of Osama and the delusional fundametalists.

So then, why didn’t Obama sign the DC amicus bill ? Ever heard the the Joyce Foundation of which Obama was a board member who doled out big bucks to anti-gun groups.
Did you know thwt Obama wdid and would support the power of government to have you arrested if you shot someone who was inside your home. He did not support the “Castle Dcotrine” law that was passed, and the passed again over the govenor’s veto, in the illinois State legislature..

Historyforgotten: You seem to be ignorant of the difference between a sear and a firing pin. Filing down a firing pin disables a weapon.

Oh, please Sen. Biden. How frickin’ dumb do you think we are in the flyover? What, is “Beretta” the only gun name you could come up with on the fly?
Sad. Pathetic. Moronic.

Beretta does make a shotgun. Just google it. The Beretta handgun was the most used handgun, that security and police officers use. He has fired them at the local gun range in his home town. Sorry if I use to much detail.

Didn’t Americans realize now how Obama is anti-American values. His change is purposely to have cultutual change.. from the best democratic government system and governance to a big government controlled systeme – healthcare to education to family values, from a succesful capitalist economy to a socialistic equality of distributing wealth by taxes and using police pwoer of the State to regulate wealth accumulation fo individuals, from religious freedom to mobilizing liberation of theology through twisting Christian dogmas for the sake of Black theology, from freedom from debt of every family and financial idependence to dependency of the government welfare fund by dole outs and expanding welfare benifits to lazy minority… and many more. Completely anti-American and the liberals who are behind Obama will control and develop and new kind of world order he preached in Germany recently ( rather than visit the troops he went to announce the new world order he is expecting to lead as backed by his boss, the real power behind this)

In Communist China during the Cultural Revolution, Mao seized all the assets of the rich, their land, their money, whatever, and said it now belonged to state, and then went about allocating every peasant a piecw of a noble’s land.
Having the upper income pay taxes to help the lower income get some credits to help them climb out of the huge hole the Bush admin has run them into is hardly the same as a socialist ideology. Do you know what a socialist country is like? It means all the major companies that control the food you eat to what underwear you wear, all come under the government, not just healthcare, and there’s little or no privatization at all.

So Joe has a couple of $3000 Italian shotguns? What a regular guy…

Well KennyBloggins, I guess being an American is a great thing. I never shot one before, but the Beretta shotgun, looks nice.

historyforgotten,
I don’t know, to me Obama/Biden seems the clear-cut choice. I think we also need something different from the shoot-first ask later cowboy kind of politics Bush championed especially in the Middle-East. That’s only won the US more enemies and wasted the lives of American soldiers and taxpayer’s money.

Belle Starr, He’s right about The CHANGEling’s “malarkey”, though.
You do realize he refered to McCains changling malarkey? :)
Watch the Whole Clip. Slowly if you must. :)
It slams McCain for his malarkey flip-flopping. Biden knows Obama can not take your rifles and handguns away. Thats a Majority vote in the Senate. Thats why Biden is making fun of McCain. Sorry if you didn’t get it the first time. :)

historyforgotten
You say…
“mussle loader” for muzzle loader
“410/22 rifle” for .410 shotgun
“filing down firing pin” for conversion of a rifle to a machinegun
…and that sounds to me like someone pretending to demonstrate knowledge about firearms, when they really don’t know the subject.
I think it’s remarkable how many of your opinions on gun policy seem to match so closely talking points from an anti-gun group such as the VPC or AHSA.
Oh and as for your fear of weapons which are easily converted to machineguns, the existing NFA of 1934 law already allow the ATF to prohibit such firearms. Which is why the original semi-auto version of the MAC-10 was removed from the marketplace back around 1982.
Obama’s proposed ban on so-called “assault-weapons” has nothing to do with machineguns (or criminals). It is primarily a ban on rifles. And rifles of all types account for less than 7% of all the means used for murder in the U.S., and the phony “assault-weapon” subtype would only be a small fraction of that 7%. So in other words murders by “assault-weapon” probably number less than the number of deaths by lightning-strike. “Assault-weapons” are not a real problem except in the fevered imaginations of gun-prohibitionists.
An “assault-weapon” ban has always been and always will be a joke. And like the Washington D.C. ban on handguns just as vulnerable to challenge on second amendment grounds. (At least until Obama packs the courts)

Fresh from football fantasy camp, the blustering Biden is now reduced to “clinging to guns” in public, possibly hoping to compete with Governor Palin, who really DOES know guns.
It’s scary enough that this do-nothing ambition freak is supposedly in charge of Foreign Relations — putting him in striking distance of the presidency would be a disaster.

Failin’ Palin may know guns.
But she can never hit the
target.
Obama/Clinton ’08

-and I still have co-workers, in our union, that are still members.-
Sorry, hit enter to quickly.

Watch the Whole Clip. Slowly if you must … Sorry if you didn’t get it the first time.

Brad, the handgun ban was asked for by the police force, during DCs crime times. Most law enforcment officials will state clearly, how the want ‘not a ban’,but restrictions, in place to save police officers lives. I am not an expert on weapons, but living on several army bases has aloud me access to view and handel many types. Muzzel loader, sorry I miss-spelled it. Again no expert. Yes, I even loaded bullets backwards, in a .22 rifle when I was 12 years old. My first experience with guns. My sixteenth birday, my grand father gave me a single shot .22. It was an old hand me down, but a hunting accident, caused me to loose it. By law, I was not able to obtain a hunting license again, until I was 18.

Our founding fathers wanted us to have guns so we keep our politicians in line—my guess Obama/Biden/Rangel others are just scarred that eventually voters and taxpayers are going to decide they have had enough of their scams and bring their guns to hold the next Boston tea party.

Hmm…
I just saw a comment I posted vanish after a few minutes. I wonder why that happened. Or if it will happen again.
Well I tried to post information (with a link) to the FBI murder statistics from 2001-2005. It shows that murder by rifle accounts for only 2.7% of murders. My original statement of 7% was grossly too high.
Knives are used almost five times more often than rifles. So shouldn’t knives be higher priority for Obama to ban?

Chattyway…you should look up your history. The Boston Tea Part was a farce. The villans dressed up like Indians to shift the blame and not take responsibility for what they did…Tallyho!

The last comment by Harry is pure, fabricated b.s. and is indicative of the Republicans willingness to SAY anything and DO anything to stay in power. Someday THEY will decide to take your guns away because THEY have no respect for the constitution. Sadly, the GOP faithful won’t learn this until it’s too late.

“Knives are used almost five times more often than rifles. So shouldn’t knives be higher priority for Obama to ban?”

“You seem so determined to dislike Obama you are arguing on things that are not even logical.”

No, but you were instead making remarks like “Wonder what kind of guns he brings eh?” And yes I can keep up, thank you.
I think “It’s either Country first or Obama first” McCain is worse, when he said before that he would “never stoop to questioning his opponent’s patriotism”.
Please enlighten me as to what is it about Obama you just cannot stand.

MCCAIN PUT LIPSTICK ON THAT PIG
AND TOOK IT OFF THE NEXT DAY
MCCAIN SAID THE ECONOMY IS STRONG AND SOUND, WE ARE NOT TO WEARY
MORTGAGE CRISES, PEOPLE ARE ALREADY OUT OF THEIR HOMES
HEALTH CARE ALREADY LOST, BECAUSE OF JOBS
JOBS ARE ALREADY LOST, NO MONEY
MCCAIN ALREADY VOTED 95% OF THE TIME WITH BUSH
MCCAIN SAYS DON’T WEARY BE HAPPY
RETIREMENT MONEY LOST BECAUSE OF BAD DEALING
MCCAIN CERTAINLY DO NOT HAVE TO WEARY, CRIMINAL CINDY IS RICH, THEY HAVE 10 HOUSES, SOME DONE HAVE ONE
TROOPS, ARE ALREADY HUNGRY, HOMELESS AND WITHOUT BENEFIT
BECAUSE MCCAIN OPPOSED GI BILL

Joe Biden pushed for an “assault weapon” ban long before Clinton was even elected. He’s in favor of lawsuits intended to bankrupt gun manufacturers. He voted to confirm the judges who would’ve overturned the 2nd amendment in Heller and voted against confirming all but 1 judge who voted to support the RKBA.
Biden has no credibility on the issue of taking guns away. He’s spent decades in DC trying to do just that, and anyone who falls for this “malarky” shouldn’t be too surprised when their guns are next.

Joe Biden saying about Obama: “if he tries to fool with my Beretta, he’s got a problem.”
Joe likes his gun. He threatens anyone that wants to take it from him
Ahh…but remember in the July 2007 debate what Joe Biden said about the gun owning questioner that “he needed help” and was “not mentally qualified to own that gun”?
And then brags about legislation to ban guns.

No ban on guns if you ask me only for tm who are corrupted need not one in there hands at all, go take them all on please get them out our neighborhoods.

Biden must be one of those terrible American “clinging to his guns and religion”.

If you plan to buy a gun better get it before Jan 20th
Obama/Biden’s promises are not good.

Biden is a complete liar. He brags that his one big accomplishment was railroading through the Clinton assault weapon ban of 1994. Like Sen. Feinstein, he only wants to keep HIS gun. But he wants to take yours. DC elietism.

After Obama bans everyones guns, he can move to the next stage in his path to Utopia. Michelle’s universal mandatory volunteer (sic) public works program. Unconstitutional ?, not after he packs the Supreme Court with his cronies.

Obama can say he is for guns, but he has already stated that his Supreme Courts picks will be so liberal that it will not matter.

Should, heaven forbid, Obama-Biden somehow pull it off Nov 4, there will be a huge run on guns in this country starting Wed Nov 5. It will be a fantastic time to own a gunshot, and a fantastic time for little else in this once great nation. The effect of their gun control policies is for only the bad guys to have guns. They absolutely refuse to admit how many problems have been avoided by the mere brandishing of a gun, or the sound of a shotgun being readied for use. In their view of things, if trouble happens, as in Washington D.C., you will be asked to cower in your home with your trusty phone on 911 speed-dial. Good luck with that!

Less guns = totalatarian state? Anyone been to Europe lately?

jack burton– Actually, McCain voted along party lines only 88% of the time, but many have rounded that up to 90%. Rounding it up even further to imply he voted along party lines more than 95% of the time is just misleading. However, even that figure would have been less than Obama voting along party lines 97% of the time.
You meant this as a criticism of McCain, yet failed to apply it to Obama. It’s time to take an honest look at your candidate and see him for what he really is.
What is Obama? A twelve-year Constitutional law professor who believed the D.C. ban was constitutional and refused to sign the amicus brief requesting it be overturned. SCOTUS declared it to be unconstitutional and overturned it, only to have Obama say he has ALWAYS believed the Second Amendment to be an individual right. He was wrong, yet refused to admit it.
A man with only 143 working days under his belt as a Senator. You can’t work at McDonald’s and become district manager after 143 days, much less President of the company. As VP this argument would not be as strong, but he is not ready for the Presidency.
Time for an honest look people. Neither candidate is perfect, but the McCain/Palin ticket is the best choice on a number of different levels.

You know, I watched some of his town hall rallies and I get the same impression. The more he talks the more he sounds kind of paranoid or fanatical.
“Biden is downright strange. He veers from one extreme to the next and seems to get extremely agitated with very little provocation. I used to like this guy, but lately he kinda gives me the creeps. What’s up?”

Another example of Joe Biden Pandering to the voters of America. He, like Mitt Romney probably only went hunting once in his life when he was a kid and now calls himself a gun lover.

Biden talks about wanting to keep his little barreta (shot gun). Big Deal! what about his barreta handgun (if he’s got one) for home protection. It’s not sporting arms i’m worried about. It’s the home protection models that they want to take away…so the only one left having any real protection will be the criminal that knocks down your door. What about home protection arms, mr. president and v.p. hopefuls? Go ahead and reaasure us that you’ll make NO moves on the legality of keeping arms for home protection…the real reason we were guaranteed the proteciton encompassed by the 2nd amendment.

According to MP – Ohio, “Obama says ‘we can find middle ground on guns’. His idea of middle ground on guns is “no guns”.
On what are you basing this “no guns” assumption? Perhapsyou are basing it on Obama’s 12-year stint as an ivy league professor lecturing on Constitutional law.
And Palin?!! Come on… She can shoot a moose and see Russia from her state so she has military and foreign policy experience? That’s a pretty far reach!

Obama’s history on the subject pretty well dooms him for the shooter/hunter vote.
Last year I worked and lived in China, this year it’s Japan and next year I’ll be in Thailand. The freedoms we still have left in the U.S. need to be protected (and expanded to more original levels. I’m having trouble coping with the lack of individual freedom here in Asia.
Having said that, I was in the U.S. for some meetings in July and made sure to stop and pick up another handgun. I’m headed back in October and will add an AR15 to one of the safes in my gun room.
It’s great when my 4 sons, 1 son-in-law and 7 grandsons hit the range. It might be even more fun when my wife, daughter, 3 daughters-in-law and two grand daughters go, but the best is when we are all there together, sharing hints on shooting and concealed carry.
Internationally, it seems that Obama is much more popular but when you talk to people here it’s because he’s more like the Socialist/Communist people they are used to being their rulers and many of them would ultimately like to see the U.S. weaker

I am glad that I can protect my children, if I ever have to, with my gun. I hope I NEVER have to use it. But I want to be able to, because the bad guys will always find a way to get guns, even if they are banned.

Uh, hey Julie…glad you are there and I’m here. You can keep your little “utopia” and ‘subject’ mindset.
This is still America for the time being where freemen have weapons. I pray it stays that way. I do intend to vote that way as well.

Ha, it didn’t take “President” Obama long to lie about that one did it? In the era of the internet it’s going to be a lot harder for these corrupt politicians to bury their past lies. Maybe that’s why they’re pushing so hard for the “Fairness Doctrine” in Talk Radio and online.