On Taxes, Obama Faces Air Assault

How can Obama still be talking about cutting taxes when they are spenting 1.5 trillion dollars bailing out the economy? Is he stupid?

Obama is finally back on track, thanks to media’s relentless attack on Palin and a huge financial crisis.
It is ironic that the candidate who can only say “I will” but not “I did or I have done” relies on:
1. an economic crisis to get 3-point lead
2. a delay troop withdrawal to to make his judgment look right
3. a mob of haters to smear and discredit a governor with 86% approval rate so that he can look more experienced.
The liberal media’s intolerance is appalling. interestingly, Obama’s political career is up when America goes down.

I would have a difficult time believing anyone could cut anyones taxes with all the stuff going on these days. None of the candidates are talking future ss, medicare and medicaid which are 4 or 5 times the official deficit. Both candidates also need to see where the problem came from, under regulation doesn’t seem to fit, a few managers making a few million doesn’t seem to fit
could 3 or 4 percent of people defaulting on home loans cause all this?

In any given year, Whenever there is a majority democrat congress the stock market has negative growth. Whenever there is a republican majority congress even if the president is democrat or republican there is positive stock market growth. Why whenver the democrats take over congress my porfolio growth goes in the dumps?

Ed wrote – “How can Obama still be talking about cutting taxes when they are spenting 1.5 trillion dollars bailing out the economy? Is he stupid?”
——and he wants to give $50-billion to foreign countries – and who pays for that — middle-class taxpayers!!

Gosp, now the liberals have the monopoly of what´s patriotic and unpatriotic. A bit more and they´ll get to totalitarism. Obama is becoming dangerously near to fascism: ´I´m in possession of the truth and whoever challenges to disagree is unpatriotic´. In Russia or Cuba he would have sent us to jail.

Obama can “slick” talked to some ill-informed voters. His true color is showing. (No Pun intended).
All talk and NO action. Just like his empty suite.
His running mate Joe, keeps sticking his foot in his mouth every time he opens it. Good job, Joe. Tell some more lies about how your wife and your daughter were killed. It was a tragic accident. But he found a way to blame on the trucker with the made up story of drinking and driving. Yeap! The Delaware folks were aware of it.

“So don’t believe those commercials,” Obama concluded. “I’m a tax-cutter. I’m gonna put some money in your pockets so you can spend that money buying groceries and buying gas and you can help that small business.”
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Obama says he is a tax cutter, yet, he has never cut one red cent off of anyones taxes in America, and he is proposing to spend close to 1.5 trillion dollars in new socialist programs and another 50 billion to help other countries. I know, he can get a trillion dollar loan from Oprah. I guarantee you if this empty suited tax and spend liberal gets in the white house, all us us will be paying more taxes or out of work completely.

Yah, right. All the Dems know how to do is tax, to pay for all their welfare programs, the ones that keep the welfare cities enslaved because the poorer they are, the more money they can get, which only perpetuates dependency. Don’t drink the Kool Aid, man.

Hahaha funny plane
Seems like Obama is further flustered.

I think it is patriotic to pay taxes. How else would anything be done in this country, health care medicare, everything you have to pay taxes. Rather than give a cut to those of us under 250 thousand, and that’s what he says – why can’t people understand that, I would just make the tax system fair. I would make the really rich pay their taxes, rather than creating a million loopholes for them to get out of. I don’t mind taxes within reason but I want everybody to pay their fair share. Obama is going to lower taxes on most of us, unless you are making over 250 thousand, that’s what Biden meant. The country is in bad enough shape without contorting the facts.

Aren’t you glad the SS was not privatized right now? We would all be scrambling. It is bad enough with our 401K. They say it is safe, but is it ever really? I think the crash was a lot worse than they are letting on. The SS was never meant to be a “retirement” fund but that is what it is now and we have to pay for it. Nothing is free.

Hey icanseeclearlynow, that “invisible father” and “community organizer” combination sounds eerily familiar. I wonder if that resume has ever worked for anyone else…

The Government is talking about bailing out the homeowner, how is that any different than what Obama suggests? At least Obama knows we are in trouble, he does not keep repeating ridiculous words to the contrary, and he has not backtracked.

My husband and I have donated money to Obama’s campaign. BTW, we are not Muslims nor blacks.
Let’s vote for president based on what the candidates stand, not on rumors.

How can “95% of the people get a tax cut” when 40% of Americans don’t even pay taxes?
Well, I believe Obama will find a way to give that 40% even more – but that means the other 55% of us that were going to get a cut will instead have to pony up the difference to pay for all of Obama’s new handouts, government growth, and world welfare.
Who honestly believes that we can have a tax cut at this time? And is it responsible – or patriotic – to even be considering it?

Solution to the nation’s energy problem;
just install some wind turbines in front of Obama and capture some of the hot air that flows so freely from this wind bag. The amount of energy saved could be astronomical! What a joke!

Can I Sue Federal Government if I could not get my Social Security when I retire?
Liberals Never Get It
McCain’08

Wow, doesn’t look like they care too much for Obama in Florida…
Doesn’t that make two protests in two days???
Did he really think there would be no repercussions from his original opposition to not counting their votes in the primary?? (His about-face for the Convention didn’t fool too many I don’t think)
I’ll bet just Joe Biden and Bill and Hillary campaign in Florida from now on.
Any more protests might tarnish his “golden” image…………….

Is the Secret Service in the habit of letting small planes fly over outdoor appearances of presidential candidates? Seems risky.

Where is McCain and his intern Palin, when is his hand puppet going to walk & talk on her own. (She has to memorize the codes to the mass destruction weapons)….scary

McCain and his 100 million dollars is one of the people faced with a tax increase from Obama. No wonder he finds fault with that idea and lies about Obama’s plan. He’s one of the top 5% and he’s, as usual, just “lookin out for number one”.
Quiz, who lies more, Palin or McCain?
McCain, since Sarah just repeats ole John’s lies and his get told twice.

Only the Republican’s could afford a small plane and do an Air Assault on over 95 percent of all America working families at a Obama Rally in Florida on taxes. I just heard that McCain has 9 house now, but we can’t talk about this right? Listen McCain and his friends will do alright after this election. Those of us who are have no homes or about to lose the one dream house because of the Republicans being in control for the past 8 years are the ones worried. I could care less about a Republican stunt like a plane doing an Air Assault on us especially when I head to the store in a few minutes to buy food I might not be able to afford soon. I need to start thinking about cutting back now at the store. Jake you know that fall chill I felt this morning has me worried about how I’m going to pay for the gas and electric bill this winter. I’m already behind on the summer bills just using the air conditioner. Its going to get hard really hard for a lot of us and I don’t know what to do.

Twenty thousand people turned out in Jacksonville today at an Obama rally, and your comment is about one guy in an airplane?

All you have to do is check with Fact Check and you will get your information right. Obama will give back 3 x more money to the people then McCain.
If you don’t like him just say so, but don’t lie like the rest og your party.
Palin left owning money on a Hockey facility that was built on land that they do not own leaving the Alaska in debt and the man is still suing for his money.
ALSO, PALIN IS A LIER EVERYTHING CAME OUT OF HER MONTH WAS HALF A TRUTH, MISLEADING A STRIEGHT LIE. CHECK THE FACTS FOR YOUR SELF.
NO WAY, NO MCCAIN, ON PALIN.
“YES, OBAMA THE TAX CUTTER”

marylou, he said a tax cut for 95% if the “working people”. I too have given to the Obama campaing, discusted with what our country has endured under Bush, and which will continue if McCain is elected. I am a white man, 60 yrs. old, who lives in WVa. Doesn’t fit the black or young demographic, does it? But many of us don’t. Get used to it.

Jay – the only people who benefit from republican rule are millionaires and billionaires. Follow the money.

If the govement can bail out the rich, then SURELY there should be a ‘bailout’ for 95% of Americans.
Wealthy SELFISH Americans just want to take, take, take until the economy crash!
Wealthy Americans are just showing their greed by not allowing working families to get a tax break!

I’m glad Obama is showing humor in his speeches, and his tax plan will benefit me and my family, I can’t wait till he is president.

John McCain has a problem in Florida!
Fundamentally, McCain’s problem is that he has a bunch of neo-con economic advisors that HATE and want to DESTROY Social Security.
Specifically, McCain wants to divert incoming Social Security contributions to PRIVATE ACCOUNTS.
Two problems:
1. Today’s social security taxes are currently paying for today’s retirees’ retirement checks! If you divert today’s contributions, the fund goes into default many years earlier.
How many of Florada’s senior citizens are going to vote for McCain when they realize he is working for the bankrupcy of the Social Security system.
2. When the people who have chosen to divert their Social Security taxes get ready to retire and they discover 20 or 30% of their retirement has been destroyed by a bear market they will demand a BAILOUT!

RE: American young are called to be patriotic in wars; but the wealthy should not be patriotic too?
We have an all volunteer military. That comment is way dumb and makes one think that certain people are just jealous of those who have more.. by this thinking…so you think you can judge them.. then as to govern them…of how their own earnings can be stolen by your socialism.

I will put the money in your pockets.
hmmm,,,,where the money come from?
I’d better write down everything you’ve promised to people.

Now that is creative with the plane flying overhead.
Good thing it happened to a strong candidate though.
If it happened to Palin, they would be crying sexism.
If it happened to Mccain, he would just be crying.

There are only a few questions Americans will never have to ask themselves about John Mccain:
Who is this man?
Can you trust him with the Presidency?
Furthermore, WHo would you rather have managed your money – John Mccain or BArack Obama?
Those are the questions many Americans must ask themselves this November.
WHo would you trust to handle your money in these times of Geo Political and economic crises. A man who has already lived his life and is successful or a man who is looking to enrich himself and his alllies and who wasted $66 million working on the Annenberg project.
When you can answer those questiosn honestly, you will know who to vote for this election.

Christie,
“We have an all volunteer military. That comment is way dumb and makes one think that certain people are just jealous of those who have more.. by this thinking…so you think you can judge them.. then as to govern them…of how their own earnings can be stolen by your socialism. ”
What you said lacks reasoning. The bailout for the wealthy for overextending is proposed by the Republican Paulson and the Republican Bush. Taxing the poor to sustain the wealth of the wealthiest people in America is just plain wrong.
Obama/Biden 08!

When investment icons point out that our tax structure gives unfair advantage to the wealthy – it is patriotic to pay their fair share.
Check out how many corporations in the US pay no taxes and employ tactics with offshore accounts to ensure there are no US taxable profits per loopholes.
I’m voting for Obama for the future of the next generation.

“Who is this man?”
Simple.
08abma
Obama graduated Magna cum Laude from Harvard.
McCain graduated at the bottom of his class.
Obama earned his wealth himself.
McCain married wealth.
McCain’s time is over, he had his chance and he failed miserably. He had 26 years to reform Washington but he couldn’t even change his own party. He stood by while his own party descended into the most corrupt party in history and was fully bought and run by K-Street. He voted with his party leader 90% of the time.

Facts are truthful—Obama is not.
Back on May 25, 2006 John McCain spoke “I join as a cosponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole. I urge my colleagues to support swift action on this GSE reform legislation………Barack Obama and other Democrats OPPOSED and did nothing.

The “protest” went barely noticed, a waste of precious fuel. I know, I was there. Perhaps it was the thunderous hum of thousands upon thousands of Obama supporters (not to mention the overflow of eight thousand who were not able to fit into the venue but chose to stay anyway). To observers, the plane trailing the “hot wings”-like banner, was taken for what it was: an adolescent prank.

I’m voting with MY pocketbook this time around. That means Obama! Both myself and my son can use a $4000 per year reduction on college tuitions over the next several years. I want someone who will actually follow thru with alternative fuels not McCain and Palin who are in bed with the oil companies and will never do anything but off shore drilling and drill in Alaska (her home state) and continue to be the only people who profit from drilling. McCain has never mentioned social security only war.
College Education is very important to me look who has one
OBAMA — Harvard Law School
Biden —– Syracuse University College of Law
MCCain ????? economics D- Sarah ????? beauty school
OBAMA/BIDEN 08

Many of you have forgotten that the Iraq war has cost us almost $6OO BILLION, I repeat, 6 HUNDRED BILLION dollars and counting by the minute.
This money is UNACCOUNTABLE – it is not even included in our national budget- no one is watching where it goes. But it comes from YOU AND ME.
Obama will end this fruitless drain on OUR tax dollars and return this UNBELIEVABLE sum to domestic spending where it belongs!
He will also eliminate the tax cuts to the upper 1% income bracket because it is NOT TRICKLING DOWN. Reaganomics has proved to be a disaster and we are now paying for it bailing out Wall Street. Obama will put things right. Get with it folks!
OBAMA/BIDEN ‘O8 and ’12!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

“Senator McCain was against the Bush tax cuts and now says he’s for the Bush tax cuts. He was against ethanol, then for ethanol, then against ethanol.”
“I think Senator McCain is willing to say anything to try and get elected. He’s been looking for this job for a long, long time.”
All according to Mitt Romney, January this year.
And now we all see: Romney was SO right.
McCain is the most horrible flip-flopper in GOP history. I will no longer call him a Republican and I will no longer vote for him.
Noa he suddenly is AGAINST the privatization of social security… In 2004 he was strongly supporting it.
And that’s just one example among many.
I’ve totally had it with McCain.

Where in the freeking world is His Nothingness going to the cash to pay all the things he promised you? $1000 bucks per person, a warping $300 billion in 2009, a new No Child Left Behind, a warping $50 billion per year, a health care for ya all, a warping $300 billion …
You wait to see he will impose a federal sales taxes soon.

Underdog -
Zero-bama voted for the $13 billion pallet flown to Iraq. Ask him first.

GOP troubled, I feekl the same. Newsweek today called the McCain campaign The ZigZag Epress, and the bad news is that they’re right.
McCain totally blew it this week on the economy. I jumped from the Express and might vote Obama.
I’m afraid McCain might steer this country towards the total financial meltdown.

What’s Palin’s experience as a ‘fiscal conservative’ and responsible executive? Throw taxpayers money into bottomless pits.
She threw $600,000 at a dairy to try to keep it open but in just two months time she already had to sell the dairy for a loss.
“Palin wasn’t at all shy about infusing taxpayer dollars into the Matanuska Maid dairy company, a state-owned business that reported dramatic losses in 2005 and 2006, a period just prior to when she took office.
After a state board ordered the company closed in 2007, Palin made a plea to keep the dairy open and *offered a $600,000 grant* to avoid closure. When the board rejected the grant and voted to close it down, she maneuvered around it, eventually installing a new board that accepted the grant and kept the dairy open.
“They couldn’t compete in the marketplace, period. They were never going to be able to turn the corner and the governor, she just didn’t care,” said former state Rep. Andrew Halcro, who ran for governor against Palin as an independent in 2006. “She’s perfectly willing to throw public money at what should be a private enterprise, at the risk of taxpayers.”
At the time, Palin was optimistic that the company could be saved, declaring: “We can revitalize [the company] and that’s what our commitment is.”
But Mat-Maid, as it was known in Alaska, failed to stanch its losses. Within two months, Palin reversed her decision and called for a sale of the financially ailing dairy. It was later sold for less than half its original asking price of $3.35 million.
“When I heard her talking about AIG, I thought, for Chrisake, that’s exactly what we were talking about a year ago,” Halcro said.

Obama continues to lie and lie again. He will NEVER become the POTUS!
McCain/Palin 08!
“Country First!”

Friday, September 19, 2008 John McCain, using his starkest language to date to define the election, told voters Friday that Americans have a simple choice when they cast their ballots in November.“Country first or Obama first,” he said, repeating a new rhetorical barb that he unveiled Thursday night.While the GOP presidential nominee has long made “country first” the motto of his campaign, he usually leaves unstated the implicit message that his rival Barack Obama is not putting national interests above his own ambition.
Who is John McCain?
Robert Mugabe! from Zimbabwe!
You vote for me.
Or CHAOS!
McCain is desperate to be President!

Want to talk about judgment? Let’s talk about the stupid war on Iraq Thousands of brave Americans dead and injured. Let’s talk about the deregulation of the market and for consequence the collapsed economy. Lets talk about the billions dollars gifted to the oil companies resulting on today price of petrol.
What the ostrich and the Republicans have in common. Let me guess!
Both hide their head on the sand and pretend everything is fine!
An ostrich bury its head in the sand and pretend everything is fine!
Republicans do the same and follow McCain!
America and the world is suffering with the blunders of Bush the Administration.
I don’t have any problem in characterizing McCain .He is a Republican! According to his own campaign, Republicans are corrupt and incompetent.
Obviously he has inside information

John McCain and Sarah Palin want to be elected like Republicans ,but they are trying to avoid discussing issues critical for the American families. And portraying themselves like reformers because they are embarrassed of the last 8 years of the Republicans –Bush Administration.This election is not only about some bridge in Alaska!it is about all the bridges and roads in all of United States ,because they are all crying out for repairs and maintenance. This is because for the last 8 years the Bush and the Republicans have spent enormous amounts to build up Iraq and they have forgotten about the needs of their own country.
John McCain and Sarah Plain promise of change: Is a change to Nowhere.
Nowhere near to help the American people with a real economic change.
Nowhere near to build America’s independence from oil.
Nowhere near to help the 95% of the American families.
Nowhere near to help the entrepreneurs and working families to keep jobs in America.
Nowhere near to provide the medical care reform for the American people and the Veterans who they are not fought for the red and blue states of the electoral map they fought against the terror and to keep America on the map.
At the end of the day Americans have a chance to repair the damages of the Bush Administration. If they are not ready to see this campaign on the colors of the electoral map RED and BLUE. But only focus on the color of the candidates BLACK and WHITE then they deserve another four years of economic chaos, job losses, foreclosures and deal new hostile fronts around the world.

McCain/Palin 08

Mary,
Just a reminder…Obama’s plan is for almost a trillion in new spending, that his campaign readily admits won’t come from a balanced budget.
So what we have is massive bailouts, plus nearly a trillion in new spending, much of which will be entitlement dollars. I don’t see how that’s a recipe for success.
Obama’s admission that he won’t be able to immediately raise taxes on the wealthy, as it will weaken the economy, speaks volumes about his “plan.”

Now I know the Republican is behind this. Was it yesterday that a group of black interupted Obama speech. The Republican have not same in their game. Having their people disrupt Obama event. This is not accident that this happen again. This is trick of those dirty Republican. I think Obama shoud do the same thing to McShame.

“I have a long record of that support of alternate energy,” McCain said. “I come from a state where we have sunshine 360 days a year … I’ve always been for all of those and I have not missed any crucial vote.”
In fact, on Dec. 13, 2007, the Senate was considering a bill to spend $13 billion on renewable power over five years. The cloture vote to allow the amendment to be brought to the Senate floor required 60 votes; it received 59 for, 40 against, and one senator absent. Yes, you guessed it: No McCain. A spokesman later said he would have voted to block the bill. …
When you add in McCain’s legislative efforts to cut funding for the most energy-efficient form of national travel (passenger rail) you find that McCain has voted against clean energy and the environment – or said he would have done so – more than 50 times since the early 1990s. And McCain has voted with the Oklahoma oilman and global-warming denier a remarkable 42 out of 44 times.

It is time for the rich to step in and stop getting nice tax break from the Republican and taking from the poor. They were giving tax break, so the Republican say, to help created job in the USA instead the out sourced them to China.

As I said a couple nites ago, you never get people who volunteer extra money to the government, even those people that agree with “Plugsy” Biden….most sane people take advantage of tax deductions when they file.
But if you agree with Biden, don’t itemized your return! Follow your patriotic duty, like Biden says…
I read where Obama took every single deduction he could. Wonder why that is.

What ever!
Mr.Obamba.
I’m getting increasingly optimistic the American people are going to reject you resoundingly and give McCain a landslide.

gl works for Obama, and he is getting all the young white people out to vote. Well, I’m glad he cleared that up.

“that all went belly up”
No they didn’t.
Iraq went belly up. That’s for sure.

What’s patriotic to the
Republicans?
Devastating the economy
and the financial markets.
Sending you off to war
claiming war their god’s
will and you are to perform
their god’s task.

Now that the Wall Street fat-cats are guaranteed a bailout at American taxpayers expense, OBAMA’S PLAN TO TAX THE FATCATS MAKES EVEN MORE SENSE.
LET THEM PAY FOR THEIR OWN MISTAKES!!!
NO MORE REPUBLICANS.
McCAIN/PALIN:
SAME BUSH, DIFFERENT DAY.

If the country is so soured on Republicans, Obama should be ahead 20 points, but people still have a lot of doubts about him.
The debates will determine the election, it seems. If Obama does like he did with Hillary, in the last debate, McCain will likely win. If Obama can do a Nixon vs Kennedy thing, the reverse is true, it seems.

Look at Iraq, even if there’s less violence now due to the surge, it’s bleeding the US at least US$12 billion per month. The Iraqi govt, on the otherhand, despite being in a war torn country, has had a BUDGET SURPLUS of a few billions.
Good in the long term? Maybe, but Iraq definitely will not be able to become “a shining beacon of democracy” in the middle-east any time soon. This country has been under a dictatorship, and then colonial rule before that. Look at some of the weaker Asian democracies too, the reason they aren’t supported as easily is because people’s mindsets haven’t had enough time to adjust. A democracy requires other institution to support it besides free and fair elections.
A free media is one-there must be a culture of not being afraid to discuss things.
Al-Qaeda did not have a strong presence in Iraq before, but now they are. Some Iraqis who are resentful of the mess we made of their country had joined the insurgency. And we had to PAY them to get them to stop fighting. Our army is also no longer at 100%, and enlistment rates have been down. Significantly, if we do not rebuild the military- as Obama said- we may not be in a strong position to face future, stronger conflicts.

I don’t know, really. Even if McCain wants to start a war with Iran or North Korea, or to continue being “Hamas’ worst nightmare”, WHERE is he going to get the money from?
He is not increasing taxes for ANYONE! That makes no sense!
Borrow from China as Bush did (and we are still doing) for Iraq? A point of interest: they’re charging interest and the bill currently has about twelve zeroes behind. Someone’s going to have to pick up the tab in the future.

Obama will riase taxes on the rich then the rich will no longer be the rich so he will have to raise taxes on the new rich. That new rich will be those making over say $150,000 and then when they are no longer the rich we have to finad a new richand so on. Soon we will all be even, broke! The really rich will just hide their money and quit trying to make more and so won’t need to hire any of the middle class. Obama is a dangerous choice for America at this time in our history.

MCCAIN AND PALIN ARE LOSERS WITH NO PLAN TO GET OUR COUNTRY OUT OF THIS MESS.. SPEWING THE SAME CONVENTION BS! 6 YEARS OF REPUBLICAN MAJORITY AND 8 YEARS OF BUSH HAS GOTTEN OUR COUNTRY NOWHERE FAST.. JUST LIKE SELFISH, IDIOT REPUBLICANS TO SCREW EVERYTHING UP FOR DEMOCRATS TO COME AND STRAIGHTEN OUT, AGAIN.. I’VE HAD ENOUGH OF THE REPUBLICAN’S LACK OF LEADERSHIP.. I’LL NEVER VOTE FOR ‘EM..
OBAMA / BIDEN – CHANGE WE ALL NEED

If you raise taxes and take more out of the economy then revenues will tend to drop over time. Keeping more in the economy does in fact create more revenue for the government. No one even noticed after the Bush tax cuts that revenues for the government were up. Unfortunately all in Washington were trying to outspend each other. That blame lies across the board.

AtomicDog,
well, you are right of course, we’ve gotten pretty far from free market principles with these bailouts…but it’s not a conspiracy.
The truth of this is that liberal lending beliefs that “underserved” communities should be afforded credit, which Carter championed, and Clinton furthered, has alot to do with the mess were in. Bad loans were made to people who had no ability to pay, and then were repackaged in such a way that they could damage our entire economy.
So you might say that free market principles were removed at the governments request, in a fit of social engineering gone a muck.

If the dems want to win the election they should but Hillary at the top of the ticket. Can Obama. I had actually considered voting for Hillary at one point but would never vote for Obama. As liberal as she is at least she would not sell her country to further her own agenda. She would rub someone out maybe but not sell out her country. Thanks for putting Obama on the ticket, I came to my senses. NO, NO I won’t vote for Obama. A vote for Obama is a vote for UN control of the United States.

If Obama had not repeatedly voted to raise taxes on the middle class, there would not be a question about his intentions. Look at Obama’s record and you will see that he is a phony.
- A democrat who is proud to vote McCain/Palin

hippiechucker: “Bad loans were made to people who had no ability to pay, and then were repackaged in such a way that they could damage our entire economy.”
Wrong. The trouble was that mortgage brokers were getting kickbacks for luring people into mortgages that were more profitable to the lenders.
Just one statistic will make this extremely clear: the Wall Street Journal reported in 2006 that *61%* of all borrowers receiving subprime loans had credit scores *high enough to qualify for prime conventional loans*.
Borrowers were getting screwed, that was the problem. Countrywide paid the brokers a fee for luring people into riskier and more expensive loans. Countrywide didn’t care that they had a bunch of risky loans as assets because they securitized them and sold them as securities to banks and investors.
Since the late 70s, people with poor credit histories were already able to get a subprime mortgage. It only went belly up when in the mid to late 90s the Republicans repealed the regulations that had been in place since the Great Depression.

The top 50% of fat cats pay 97% of our taxes. The top 1% pay 39%!!!
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I love these stats. There just like the ones you hear getting tosses out by FOX news everyday. Of course, they refuse to acknowledge one simple fact.
As a percentage of income, the wealthiest Americans PAY FAR LESS than the middle class.Does THAT seem like a fair tax system?
A person making $40,000 PAYS A HIGHER PERCENTAGE of his income than someone who make $40,000,000! One needs that money for survival the other just to be even more filthy rich.
Someone with 40K and two kids needs every dime just to keep his family fed. So forgive me if I don’t feel sorry for that poor soul who can’t buy his seventh house this year – like SOME PEOPLE ALREADY HAVE.
The disparity between the rich and the middle class is larger than any point in our nation’s history. It has gotten that way because Republican policy has created rules that cater to only the wealthiest Americans. The screw the middle class mentality needs to end now.
Look at all major powers thoughout history. Their downfall began with the loss of the middle class.

Umm, no, Milton. The more you earn, the higher the percentage you pay. It’s called, in accounting terms, your “tax bracket”.

Look at Obama’s record and you will see that he is a phony.
- A democrat who is proud to vote McCain/Palin
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Seems an odd statement coming from someone voting for McCain/Palin.
Their records and their own words indicate inconsistencies across the board.
“I, in good conscience, cannot support the Bush taxcuts”
“Now that I’m running for President, giving those rich folks a tax cut is a good idea.”
“I support the notion that a woman should have the right to make her own decisions about her body”
“Now that I’m running for President, I think Roe v Wade should be reversed”
etc……..
“I said thanks but no thanks”….sure you did
“I will cooperate with investegators”
“I will not appear if supoenaed”
GOP, the prime hypocracy

hippiechucker: “The more you earn, the higher the percentage you pay.”
That used to be the case, in the old days. Not any more.
Listen to Warren Buffet. Warren Buffet paid a 17.7% tax rate on his $46 million of taxable income in 2006, while his employees paid an average 32.9% tax rate (his receptionist’s tax rate was 30%).

Here’s another interesting statistic that will blow you away.
Thirty years ago, average CEO pay to average worker’s pay was 35:1
In 2007 it’s 344:1

Well the Warren Buffet reference always makes me a laugh. He is referring the the money he makes off of DIVIDENDS, not a salary like his secretary. Try again. Go download from the IRS what tax brackets are, instead of getting your info from the Daily Kos, maybe.

hippie: that’s his income.

Wow, I live in Ohio too, and heard Alaskains screaming for help from crime and rape. Our factory Union is voting Obama, so they can continue putting out fuel cells for the future. Mccain has told our company to stick with oil, and Downgrade our engine department. Our car designers have a fear of McCains backwater ideas, and fear another overseas transfer. Obama and Biden have let me keep my guns, because I am a lawful citizen. And I do support regulations on assult rifles and rocket launchers. Besides Obama and Biden understand that the constitution, works for lawful citizens. Not Foriegners who wish to sell Palin more automatic rifles. Republicans wishing for American jobs and a future are voting Obama this year. Our town hall has even talked about how money from middle class tax cuts will support new roads and drainage around the Knox lake. Unlike Palins failer to upgrade Alaskas properly. McCains tax cuts will not help our town at all. But gives Tycoons another chance to invest in foreign accounts. As they always have, with each tax cut they get. McCain for foreign investment.Obama for American investment.Our Republican town is supporting a Democrate for change this year. Hopefully Far-Right Republicans can understand, they support Tycoons. Our town wants solar and hydro power, to help run local factories, so oil can be used for gasoline. At least until we can upgrade to better automobiles. McCain has not supported our Solar power run sewer system. ‘Oil is the way’. No. It is the Oil Tycoons way. 48 of his oil rigs just sank to the bottom of the ocean. Pollution. Oh yes. But fish do not like that part. If we would have supported greenier fuels, we would have had better energy supplies. As an Ohioian you must have had power outages, for Ike. We did. Republican and Dems for Obama. For a Free America.

Obama’s statements are true. This has been fact checked. Those starting at 250,000 would have small increase or no change. And increased earning would increase as goes up. Only super rich would pay $2000+ more in taxes. Below $250,000 taxes would be decreased. Average Americans will get money back.
John Mccain tax plan gives decrease taxes to $250,000 or above. And is more beneficial to higher income group. Below $250,000 would have some tax breaks. Cost less than McCains to government
I am aware John McCain has been lying about this and making claims Obama will increase taxes for all Americans. Please go to fact check to verify. I also saw CNN had analyst- he did excellent presentation comparing both tax plans. Costs more than Obama’s to government

Interesting…This Blog by Tapper was about taxes and few post actually address it. If you actually believe McCain will NOT raise your taxes with our country 10 trillion dollars in debt and an additional trillion just added for the bail-out of institutions he fought hard to deregulate – you are living in fantasyland. Keeping our debt high will cause interest rates to trend higher as the amount of public debt crowds out private credit markets and reduces the amount of capital available for private loans. While we thought 18% prime rates were bad in the 1970s, we really haven’t seen anything yet, if the debt trend continues.
As interest rates increase, the cost of living for the average working family goes through the roof.
McCain will HAVE to raise taxes. You can listen to him continue to lie or just use your brain.

McCain has said he will keep the tax cuts for the wealthy. He will not deliver the tax cuts to the middle class that we so desperately need. It’s time for government by, of and for the super rich to end! Haven’t the wealthy made enough yet at our expense to feel secure? Don’t they feel it’s time for the good of the country to pay their fair share? As Biden said, on one hand you have greed, and on the other you have love of country. It is patriotic to step up and pay your fair share for the public good. The Republicans will fight that concept tooth and nail, because if they had their way, the very rich would pay no taxes at all.

Wait a minute…I thought liberals were against tax cuts! Ohhh….right….its bad if Republicans get them, got it.

Willem,
You didnt say how Obama would pay for HIS cuts. He’s already said he cant balance the budget, you know that right. Plus, he’s got a trillion in new spending to put on our backs….

“I made $342k last year.”
That’s counterfeiting. That’s illegal
“Why do you think you deserve any of my money?”
Why do you think you deserve any of that money?
Have you paid for using my roads and bridges and police and security and firebrigades and judges and courts and military and education and healthcare and social security, preventing you from having to swat away masses of sick people coming at your door, begging for help yourself? In effect, guaranteeing you a stable society so you don’t have to pay your own private army?

ac: “here int the United States!”
Don’t be obtuse. That the Rich generate jobs in the US has been disproven the last 8 years. Unemployment is 6.1 and rising at an alarming rate.
After decades of Republicans pushing that mantra, I’m glad that that false assumption can finally be thrown in the dustbin of history as totally flawed and “voodoo economics”.

goon” It’s as simple as that, unless you think poor people should pay just as much for the very things they don’t use and you take for granted every single day.
________________
I know a lot of poor people who have taken out loans to travel the highways or flyways to Disney Land or Universal Studios…..
____________
I’ve never been to either, even though I would have liked to and I’m not particularly poor.
I think ALL OF US should accept responsibility for the infrastructure of our country!
Poor or not, you have to get from point A to pointg B one way or the other.
If you don’t have a car, then you probably use a bus or a train…… which run along roads or on tracks….

LOL, Anyone who believes a single word out of McBushes mouth is a complete fool. he is a proven LIAR and pretty much everything he has said lately is either made up as he goes along or is ab outright LIE>
Jiff

oh the people. the huddled masses. oh the poor, poor people. it’s not morning in america again. it’s doom and gloom. the poor, poor people. wait, when I went out today amoungst the peolpe today, i didn’t get the dreaded feeling i get after watching an obama speech. or reading the news. there’s something going on here. methinks we’re being bamboozled. hoodwinked. okey doke. i figured it out. whew.

Concerned in OH:
Pulling nrs out of your ass now are we? 15%-20%?
But from what you’re asking, it’s not clear what you mean by ‘making’.
Your $342k was revenues what your business was making? Was it corporate profits? Or was it your personal income out of that business?
Only in the first instance makes your question sense.

oh don’t be so jealous. you ,too, can take risk and be rewarded for it. you might lose your life savings, but there is also the possibility of reward. sometimes, well, most of the time, people seem to forget that most wealthy people didn’t just wake up rich one day. they worked. they risked – sometimes everything! – to grab the brass ring. is is blatantly unpatriotic to call those amoung us who go for it unpatriotic for not wanting to give away the reward. and most wealthy people i know are generous to charities that are accountable to their doners, unlike the federal goevernment .

Kitty, only at the expense of American lives does it become Patriotic. If you make 250,000 dollars a year, skip giving yourself a raise and invest in another American employee. You can take that risk as well. And hey, you may even allow that American to put American food on the table. A happier American can even invest in an American store, and support an American product. The next year, as you see more money spent on your product , give youself a raise. It turns out that taking a chance on Americans can be its own reward. Cool concept, I know. If you really want a long term investment, support America. Not a Tycoon. Even the fantastic Railroad builders, invested in America and created a fantastic railroad system. As they started to send money overseas, the railroads were lacking in the infrastruture they needed. If you want to be a Tycoon, be an American one, not a foreign one. Keep the money in America and support America. Sure, you can support products from a foreign country. But to support an American company to grow, with education and employees. That makes me proud to be an American. If you make millions a year, try giving raises to Americans.

if you do make 250k or more a year you should kick a in a little more because you can afford it. But if you are check to check all you need is a little breathing room, so maybe oneday you can hit the 250k mark. The more the middle class has the more the will spend which is better for the ENTIRE ECONOMY not just those whose greed can get the best of them

Spirit In the Sky, Concerned is no business owner.
Small business owners don’t have the time to spend day and night on boards and fora like this.
They work hard to survive the Bush years.

So the rich get all the tax breaks? And the low life peasants get the crubs off the table by getting another $8/hr job at the local wal-mart or piggly wiggly with no health insurance. If the middle class and the lower middle class has more disposible income they will spend it on the things and services that they aspire to. The rich will not hire more the will hoard and send there money someplace else where it wont be taxed. 250k by all means is not rich but i am 110% confident if this does occur the rich will find a loophole or tax shelter or some other way for their money not to be taxed. So why are you complaining?

The GOP believes that by giving tax breaks to Corporations & wealthy businessmen, there would job creation and higher investment in our markets. Thus there would be a trickle down of wealth to the working class. They wanted less regulation of the Banking Industry, Financial markets and Mortgage industry. It is now apparent that this Repubublican philosophy has brought America to the brink of financial ruin. Now the tax payers are bailing out big business again, For the last 8 years under Bush and with McCains unwavering support, the American got one small slice of the Pie and the rest of the pie was divided up between Lobbyist, Energy and Banking Industries. I prefer Obama’s plan of insuring that there remains a large middle class, by giving the tax breaks, healthcare, needed infrastructure repairs throughout the nation,and his emphasis on alternative fuels. I believe in America first, That is the main reason to vote Obama! What is more important than securing America’s economic & moral future?
Obama/Biden 08

DON’T FOOL YOUR SELF, RICH PEOPLE DOESN’T HAVE A COUNTRY.
THEY JUST HAVE MONEY AND PASSPORT!

-DON’T FOOL YOUR SELF, RICH PEOPLE DOESN’T HAVE A COUNTRY.
THEY JUST HAVE MONEY AND PASSPORT!
Posted by: foreclosure | Sep 21, 2008 3:42:03 AM-
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I am suggesting changing the colors of the electoral map .From Red and Blue, to Black and White. Also I suggest Spanish language to be taught to kinder gardens with American / English like second choice. Fidel Castro and Hugo Chavez like guests of Honor at the day when Obama sworn President.
That is no bad idea, is far better from have another 4 years of Bush administration with the puppet of the far right McCain as President .And then after he pass away have the Pit-bull with lipstick bombing Russia .
Why McCain can’t put together two sentences and Sarah Plain give only scripted interviews? That indicates mental constipation and final state of plain idiocy.
I don’t have any problem in characterizing McCain .He is a Republican! According to his own campaign, Republicans are corrupt and incompetent.
Obviously he has inside information!
OBAMA is Black but is your last hope!

Who’s the real racist? The 40% of whites who won’t vote for a black man or the 98% of blacks who won’t vote for a white man?

Nick, as a Republican, I understand investing in America, is worth it. Vote Independant if you must, but a Far Right Lobbiest vote, is like voting for Non-America. McCains ‘quick buck’ thinking, has already been used by lobbiests for more than 20 years, and has only cause economic harm, for a long run. McCain is letting his Tycoon ties to Bush, smear his name. Invest in America, vote Obama and Biden.

dO — you ask where is the money going to come from for Obama to keep his promises????
The Iraq War is currently costing 12 BILLION A MONTH.
He ends the war. You do the math.
Posted by: swing state bluesblog | Sep 20, 2008 9:14:48 PM
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Mr. swing,
Yeah.. That is what he promised you, wink wink. First, do you really think $12 billion will make a swing for his $1 trillion promise in 2009 and counting (just like he promised you to build 1 million hybrid plug-ins in the NEXT 10 YEARS to solve your long-term foreign oil dependency; currently, there are more than 250 million vehicles on the road)?
Secondly, in case, His Nothingness forgot to inform you blind followers, that $12 billion per month is BORROWED money, not even counted as Federal deficit, which His Nothingness voted for it. Ask him why did he vote for that $12 billion dollars? Just because he will tell you now he will stop spending it? Smart you-know-what.

Just a minute McCain said the fundamentals of the economy are strong .Probably he was thinking about the family Business.
Posted by: foreclosure | Sep 20, 2008 9:25:08 PM
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The last time that a President or a Presidential candidate in this country has brought such a pesmistic attitude into the general population, and fooled so many blind followers is, actually, now, by His Nothingness.
If you have nothing in your record, you scare your constituent to death.
I thought Americans are always optimistic to its future, even at the darkest moments. Yet, Zero-bama, being Nothingness, tells you there is nothing optimistic in this economy, and it is to sink to the bottom of the third world, if you do not vote for him. If you did vote for him, he promises to give you $1000 bucks, using his “reserve” from the sunk-to-bottom-economy.

But people, make no mistake.
everybody will see tax increased under Obama. People who think not, you are just buch of unrealists.
why the rech people should be only patriatic. All the poor one of us should be patriatic too.
the proportion will be different though, that’s fair.
Paying a lot of taxes is inevitable. If we are going to save this country, and have decent health care, there is no other way.
Obama doesn’t tell you that though. But you can see he is very talented at taking money out of people’s pocket. You realize that right? Half billion for the campaign, what a shameless circus under the bad economy. Is the economy really bad?
Anyway, he is telling us he only gets money out of small pockets. but in reality, majority of his money comes from big riches, including FreddyMac, FennyMae and ethanol industry etc. He only tells you majority of his donors are small donors. Which is same to McCain.
Now he tells you he will only tax rich. Don’t forget, he gets money for everyone and he is good at it.
And we should be all happy paying taxes. It’s a civil duty, dude.
He tells you

For all the people who think Obama´s plan isn´t a good one: Do you think Bush´s was a good one? Trickle down economics hasn´t worked. We´re in the biggest economic crisis since the Great Depression! Would you rather see your tax dollars going towards reconstructing Iraq (a war that should never have been waged in the first place) or being spent here at home for things like health care and shoring up our social security and infrastructure providing jobs? We don´t need McSame, the chameleon. Do you ask yourself why, suddenly, Bush finds 700 BILLION (nearly a TRILLION) dollars of OUR money to bail out Wall Street greed and could never find that money to provide health care, fix US infrastructure, and provide jobs? Corporate socialism at its finest. Time to give back to the people. Obama/Biden 2008.

What ever you do don’t make Michelle mad! That women is about to blow a gasket.

they used these same arguments to get us into this whole and keep their tax burden only growing at half of the rate (just as it has for the last 40 years) redistributing that burden up…because of trickle down economics
guess what trickle down economics has had no effect in the long run on either direction of our economy.
it’s a falisy.
all trickle down economics does is make sure the priority is on the rich
and not where our engine is
what they don’t tell you is that is the middle class has more money to spend that creates more need for business and more spending.
it works both ways liars.

Do you ask yourself why, suddenly, Bush finds 700 BILLION (nearly a TRILLION) dollars of OUR money to bail out Wall Street greed and could never find that money to provide health care, fix US infrastructure, and provide jobs?
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Well give the Republicans credit, they did find a TRILLION dollars to fight a war that had no clear mission, no definition of what constitutes victory, and has accomplished nothing other than create chaos in the middle east.
Who cares if the domestic economy has gone to hell? At least HALIBURTON and other defense contractors have recorded RECORD PROFITS under Republican leadership and I feel good about that. They deserve it.
The best part is, according to McSame and Bush, no one ever has to pay for their war. However, we may all be speaking Manderin in this coutry in a few years if it continues.

Historyforgotten, you may need to spend less time on the computer and more time working on an education. Regardless of who you choose to support, allowed is the word you were looking for not “aloud”.
Finding the lesser of two evils is what my plan is for my vote. Trying to wade through the garbage in the political ads takes a lot of time.
The best thing is this is America, I have been proud to be an American my entire life regardless of President, Clinton, Bush, Carter. I do not need Obama standing on his soapbox to make me proud.
Those of you who do need Obama to be proud, get real, the President does not make the country, the people do. All people, white, black, brown, male, female.
With the economy the way it is today, we ALL will see a tax increase regardless of how much we make. Congress will ensure that, not the President, regardless who that may be following the November election.
Everyone wants change, change the Congress.

Correction: Jim Johnson, who was Barack Obama’s economic advisor, was not only CEO and Vice Chairman of Fannie Me, he was also a managing director at Lehman Brothers

Republicans, in EVERY election, always use words like “socialism” and “communism” as a lame attemt to try and discredit a more democratic economic policy.
Yah, I hear ya there McCarthy!
Our system has NEVER been a pure capitalist system. The recent bailout shows that all too clearly.
We have always had regulations, price controls, tarrifs, import duties, etc. that all affect the nature of the various markets. It’s an obvious mixture of various economic concepts.
Our nation was founded on the principle of a government FOR THE PEOPLE. And “the people” are the majority – not just the top 15% of the wealthiest Americans.
The current Republican administration (the most corrupt in over half a century)has ONLY catered to the minority of mega-rich individuals. McCain proposes more of the same. And his sidekick speaks using WORD-FOR-WORD slogans that were used by Bush. They “reform” nothing.
NO WAY WE REWARD THE REPUBLICAN PARTY FOR WHAT THEY HAVE DONE TO OUR COUNTRY!
They’ll just continue the same course and do it again.

SINCE WE HAVE SUCH MASSIVE TRADE IMBALANCE–AND INVESTORS CREATING JOBS DO SO IN OTHER COUNTRIES—SUCKING THE LIFE OUT OF US—JUST MAYBE WE SHOULD START A TRADE TAX—-AND DONT TELL US WE WILL BE HURT—THAT IS UNLESS YOU WANT TO WORK FOR A DOLLAR OR TWO PER HOUR WITH ABSOLUTELY NO BENIFITS OR REGARD FOR THE ENVIROMENT—-WE ARE ON OUR WAY TO BEING A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY—THE MASSIVE TRADE IMBALANCE HAS TO BE STOPPED—-OUR GOVERNMENT HAS GONE CRAZY,AND BIG BUSINESS SUCH AS WALMART MAKES BILLIONS AND WE GET CRAP.JOBS PAID AS MUCH 20 YEARS AGO—WE MUST DEMAND CHANGE.STOP THE EXPORT OF JOBS.

WHEN THE EXPORT OF JOBS –AND THE IMPORT OF CHINESE PRODUCTS STOPS –THE SMALL BUSINESSES THAT ARE THE BACKBONE OF OUR ECONOMY WILL START TO RECOVER—THE SUPERSTORES AND THEIR IMPORTS ARE DESTROYING US—-WE HAVE BEEN SOLD OUT FOR THE LAST 16 YEARS –LIKE IT OR NOT IF THERE IS NO CONTROLLS, WE WILL SEE IT GET A LOT WORSE HERE—-A FACT THAT NO ONE CAN DENY.

Trickle Down My Leg,
Actually, most alarmingly, Bush hasn’t even found 1 (closer to 3, actually) trillion dollars to wage the Iraq war. He’s currently using America’s credit card and billing everything to countries like China- that’s how he was able to get away with not raising, and actually cutting taxes for a while. Well, since the number is running into the trillions already, you can just imagine the interest we’re going to have to pay eventually.
Socialist policies do not make a country a socialist country. A socialist country would go much further- with the government owning EVERYTHING, like the entertainment, all the industries and sectors. It would be impossible for a president to try to change all of that. Government taking more charge of healthcare and welfare is pretty standard. No, the US is not in danger of becoming socialist/communist. The media and culture of freedom of speech Americans have enjoyed and believed in is something supremely difficult to dismantle.

Well, I suppose McCain will then be exposed for corruption again, like he did in the Keating 5 scandal? And perhaps Palin will fire someone else for refusing to fire yet another relative for personal reasons, if you want to go by that.
Actually you’re right, Obama IS going to raise taxes. For the UPPER-INCOME and corporations, so that we actually have SOME money to reverse the deficit. McCain wants to continue staying in Iraq, but HOW is he going to fund it? 12 billion dollars per month is no small amount.

“RAISING TAXES IS INDEED UN-PATRIOTIC”..
WE DON’T GET ANY SERVICE FROM THE
GOVERNMENT EVERYTIME WE DEPOSIT OUR
HARD EARNED MONEY….
CHECK THE HURRICANE VICTIMS IN TEXAS…
F E M A TURNED DOWN MOST OF THE
THE REQUESTS FOR HELP…AS UNQUALIFIED.
DO YOU REALLY WANT TO PAY MORE TAXES???
I DON’T…………
McCAIN/PALIN ’08

HEY!! WAKE UP!!!
He said PAYING taxes was patriotic, not raising them. If you think otherwise
you are either selfish and myopic beyond description or your favorite hobby is offshore accounts.

People think that the Failin’-McGoo ticket is going to bring them mana from heaven after their fearless leaders jsut brought them socialism.
Move over, once again it’s time for Democrats to drive.
Hoover
Nixon
Reagan
Bush 2
Kids with matches in a wooden house, over and over and over….

Yea the way he kept his promise on FISA, townhall debates and public finance.
The way he says one thing in small towns about gun rights but votes for major gun restrictions.
The only people being hoodwinked are the
ones that absolutely refuse to believe the facts about Obama.
He’s a radical thug from Chicago that didn’t fight corruption but reveled in it.

Obama’s 95% tax cut is a lie since 40% do not even pay taxes.
He will kill small businesses and the jobs that go with them.
These people are being hoodwinked because many of them probably work for small business.

jpt writes:
a small airplane flew overhead pulling a banner that read, “Raising taxes is not patriotic.”

You can ignore anything Obama is saying about taxes. Obama has shown he will change positions at the drop of a hat. He will raise everyone’s taxes because he is a committed socialist.

“Obama has shown he will change positions at the drop of a hat. He will raise everyone’s taxes because he is a committed socialist.”

Has anyone asked what Obama is going to do about capital gains taxes, death taxes and payroll taxes. He is raising taxes on everybody guaranteed. Look at his senatorial voting record on taxes he has done it 4 times check it out go to senate.gov its there. This guy will do and say anything to get elected. The economy has not been that bad wake up America in 2001 we got nailed by terrorists and had a meltdown fromn the internet. Learn your economic history before you start quoting the crap the media is telling you. We will survive and it is and will not be anything like the great depression.

meggie,
Small businesses have failed to hire people. I hope they make a law that says selling people’s credit reports and girlie magazines from their basement does not constitute a business. These scam jobs must go because they have no intention of expanding their “businesses” and I’m tired of paying for your write-offs.
If you’re small business material that can drive the economy, figure out how to expand your business and hire people. It defies common sense to say you cannot hire people because of a small tax imposition. To do so, one would have to completely disregard all the write-offs you get for employing people. To do so would say that you are only in business to avoid paying taxes.
Obama/Biden 08!

I often wonder if we’d be seeing this much hatred of McCain from the left if he had switched parties like Kerry wanted him too, and he had seriously considered after his run-ins with Bush in 2000. To hear all of you talk, he’s a Bircher.
Give me a break.
Bottom line, folks….Obama wants to raise taxes, and he has too, not to help you and me, but to pay for nearly a trillion in new spending, to pay for pet liberal projects like universal child care for everyones children.
In terms of the protectionist tone that alot of Obama folks take, its important to remember that after his blustering about repealing NAFTA, he sent an aide to privately tell the Canadians that its just election year bullcrap. Look it up…and then do some thinking. How will massive corporate taxes affect jobs….positively?
Those of you railing about jobs moving to China, need to understand that jobs are always on the move. Anybody who’s been to the Northeast sees lots of empty factories, whose industry left for the South after the war….because the cost of doing business was CHEAPER.
The only way, the only certain way, to keep jobs is to reduce the burden on business to stop the flow of jobs elsewhere.
Turns out there’s lots of Chinese out of work now, having lost their jobs to the Vietnamese. Get it?
Unless we’re willing to completely turn over our businesses to the government, jobs will always come and go in a capitalist society, and Obama’s taxes can only hasten that movement through his higher taxation.

Handouts/Welfare/Reparations
Health Insurance even to illegal immigrants.
Obama has voted 94 times to raise taxes.
He has to raise taxes to fund his earmarks and handouts. Just look at his record.

Giving tax cuts to the wealthy during a time of war is unpatriotic.
And those of you repeating the line that Obama voted 94 times to raise taxes, you obviously saw Palin on Hannity and are repeating the lie.
This accusation was debunked by Factcheckdotorg last JULY! Titled, “Tax Tally Trickery”.

Obama has recently stated in an interview on ABC “This Week” he would hold off on ALL tax increases, including those making $250k while we are in a recession.
Why isn’t anyone asking about the inconsistancy between what he says and what is on his website?
Why isn’t anyone asking what effect this would have on the deficit and our total debt?

Experience
>
>
>> You couldn’t get a job at McDonalds and become district manager after
>>> 143 days of experience.
>>>
>>> You couldn’t become chief of surgery after 143 days of experience
>>> of being a surgeon.
>>>
>>> You couldn’t get a job as a teacher and be the superintendent after
>>> 143 days of experience.
>>>
>>> You couldn’t join the military and become a colonel after a 143 days
>>> of experience.
>>>
>>> You couldn’t get a job as a reporter and become the nightly news
>>> anchor after 143 days of experience.
>>>
>>> BUT….
>>>
>>> From the time Barack Obama was sworn in as a United State Senator, to
>>> the time he announced he was forming a Presidential exploratory
>>> committee, he logged 143 days of experience in the Senate. That’s how
>>> many days the Senate was actually in session and working. After 143
>>> days of work experience, Obama believed he was ready to be Commander
>>> In Chief, Leader of the Free World, and fill the shoes of Abraham
>>> Lincoln, FDR, JFK and Ronald Reagan. 143 days.
>>>

hippiechucker,
“Bottom line, folks….Obama wants to raise taxes, and he has too, not to help you and me, but to pay for nearly a trillion in new spending, to pay for pet liberal projects like universal child care for everyones children.”
You can’t be serious! Liberal pet projects? Republican Paulson’s proposed welfare package for Wall Street pushes the national debt to approximately $12 TRILLION and he is demanding that no relief be granted for taxpayers.
Do you people watch the news?
Obama/Biden 08!

Common Sense
Clinton had an average unemployment rate of 5.85% with a high of 7.3%.
Carter had an unemployment rate of over 12%.
The Depression had unemployment rates of about 25%.
We went from 5.8% to 6.1% unemployment.
According to a few Dems, Depression here we come!

“Foreign banks, which were initially excluded from the plan, lobbied successfully over the weekend to be able to sell the toxic U.S. mortgage debt owned by their American units to the Treasury, getting the same treatment as United States banks.”
Republicans bail out the world and leave Americans broke….. that’s ‘reform’ we can believe in.

davei n lv,
“Clinton had an average unemployment rate of 5.85% with a high of 7.3%. Carter had an unemployment rate of over 12%. The Depression had unemployment rates of about 25%. We went from 5.8% to 6.1% unemployment. According to a few Dems, Depression here we come!”
Curious, did they count 20 hr/wk “jobs” as being employed back then? Do we now? Were employed H1B visa recipients included in the “employed” group back then? Are they now?
The only thing that is keeping the unemployment rate lower than they actually are is the new ways to “account” these numbers. Stats do indeed lie.
Obama/Biden 08!
Obama/Biden 08!
Obama/Biden 08!
Obama/Biden 08!
Obama/Biden 08!
Obama/Biden 08!