By Kate Barrett

Sep 27, 2008 1:15pm

Palin Gets the Full Philly Treatment: “Hey Hockey Mom — Keep the Puck out of PA”

Someone had the bright idea of sending Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin to the Irish Pub on Walnut Street in downtown Philly before the debate yesterday.

More than 400 McCain-Palin supporters were in the bar waiting for her; more than 300 McCain-Palin opponents were outside the bar, heckling her on as Philadelphians know how to do.

Sporting a red Phillies jacket, over a white t-shirt that read "Sarahcuda," Palin entered the bar to the protestors chanting "Obama! Obama!"

Some set off flares.

They held up signs: "McSame/Failin’;" "Hey Hockey Mom — keep the puck out of PA;" "Just like Bush in lipstick."

Inside the pub, the reception was very warm, with supporters swarming her, asking for autographs and pictures.

"Thanks for inviting us into The Irish Pub," Palin told the assembled throngs, "and we know this is going to be a great night for our ticket. Thank you for being here for rooting on John McCain tonight in the debate even, you guys, thank you. Yeah.

"Great to be here in the city of brotherly and sisterly love," she continued. "Thank you and we feel that. And truly all the support that you’re providing us in this area that is so paramount to victory on November 4th. We thank you so much for all your support. Hope we all get around to meet each and every one of you so I can personally thank you guys for the support that you’re showing and for being so reform-minded and knowing that we have opportunity to put government back on the side of the people and shake things up in DC.

"And for that I thank you for being on the team," she concluded. "And hopefully we can bring more people from this area on that team, you guys, truly. As our mission, getting to DC, shaking things up, working for you. John McCain and I will never forget whom we are working for is for you. So we love you guys, city of brotherly love. Thank you."

Some middle-aged guys wore red and blue hockey jerseys that said "USA" and "VP" on the front, and "Palin" on the back. They’d had them made in Canada. Palin signed the jerseys after which they gave her one.

A different man gave her his Philadelphia Flyers hat, which she also donned.

Her exit from the Irish Pub was met with a harsh wave of boos from the protesters standing on Walnut Street.

As she eased into her motorcade one man yelled, "I can see Alaska from Walnut Street!"

-jpt

User Comments

That was mean but Palin should have been on TV spinning for McCain rather than at a debate party in Philadelphia.

Posted by: Sandra | September 27, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm

I wonder if Palin has a bracelet too?
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If she does, I bet she will remember whose name is on it, unlike your messiah who could not remember without looking last night.

Posted by: she will | September 27, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm

these obamacons are so nasty and hateful … it’s like who would want to be one of them??? … attacking someone verbally outside of a bar really makes their Obama look good??!!!!
McCain-Palin ’08

Posted by: Francisco Cardenas | September 27, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm

the debate next week will be her death knell, there is no level of preparation she can get that will allow her to even appear to be ready to be President. Her every comment will be canned practiced rhetoric and she will be unable to present any off the cuff and original ideas of her own, she will have no relevant experience that she will be able to call on that cannot be soundly refuted, and she will smile and punt and say I’ll get back to you on that. She’ll try to use McCain’s record and that will continue to be disasterous as Biden has MORE experience than McCain and will know him better than she does. Any references from her regarding what McCain thinks will be responded with “I’ve known John McCain for almost 30 years, he’s a friend of mine” He will be polite, and gentlemanly but he will not go easy on her. She will be taken to task and there will be no question that McCain’s judegement must be questioned by independents and even his own party as to how he could pick someone so grossly underqualified for the job.

Posted by: Danny | September 27, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

Jake,
Sounds like she handled the crowds fine. Thanks for letting us know what she was up to last evening.
I am one of those who is nervously awaitng the vp debate. But I admit to being mystified by Palin’s less than surefooted performances in her interviews with Gibson and Couric. I have now had the opportunity to see video of some past interviews she did on CSpan (and I’ve seen her on CNBC). Have you seen them? She’s everything I want her to be in an interview– personable, articulate, intelligent, well-versed on the issues, comfortable, prepared. What has happened to Gov. Palin? I hope that gifted speaker is the one who shows up for the debate.
And Concerned, thanks for the bracelet joke. I thought that was downright childish of Obama and not terribly effective, esp. when he stumbled over the name of the person who gave it to him, almost as if he had to struggle to remember. And yet, none of the commentators I saw last night on CNN or FOX or ABC (I REFUSE to even peak at MSNBC) picked up on it. They were busy assuring me that Obama had been the calm, confident one who came across better, while I kept scratching my head and saying, “Did you hear the bracelet exchange? Did you notice how often he interrupted McCain? Did you notice that he refused to give McCain the common courtesy of addressing him by his title, familiarly calling him “John” while McCain consistently spoke to “Sen. Obama”? ARe you sure we were watching the same debate?” But what else was I expecting? Someday I’ll learn.

Posted by: moderate | September 27, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

I don’t understand the hatred. It doesn’t make sense to me. People were hating her within hours of McCain saying her name on stage in Canton OH. As if just by the sight of her made people mad. I guess people think beautiful people have no job running for office.
My explanation is that they are using her to talk about things they wish they could talk about when discussing Obama. I mean Obama did not meet his first head of state until his summer tour, and during the primary he counted as his foreign policy experience his childhood in Indonesia. No one blinked. Sarah Palin said that she has been to Canada, Mexico, Kuwait and Germany and they want to know how come she did not go to more places.
I want to know how come no none has mentioned that when John Edwards became VP he had been in the senate 1 term and a trial lawyer before that. No one asked him about his foreign policy experience. This whole I hate Palin just because thing is getting old.

Posted by: coolrepublica | September 27, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

Must be a slooo news day.

Posted by: Captain America | September 27, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

wow , where is all the defense of freedom of speech from the McPalin bots? Hmm, you decry that the NRA gets called out on trying to broadcast false information, but if some people want to esxpress their opinion in a public place, whoa! Wanting freedom only for the people who agree with you is not patriotism it is fascism. Without tolerance, freedom is a false promise.

Posted by: Danny | September 27, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

I have no comments to make about Sarah palin, I will leave it up to the conservatives to deal with her the same way they dealt with Harriet Miers when they understood she was not up to the task.

Posted by: Truth Matters | September 27, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

Sheepbrain1. Thanks for reminding me (how could I have forgotted). The city of brotherly love – the fattest in the nation. What do you expect from people on the dole? That they would work for a living. I am glad I live in Texas. Texans know how to treat ladies.
Hockey moms for Palin.

Posted by: bekulbokem | September 27, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm

I didn’t realize there were that many cluless people in Philly! Palin has shown nothing but stupidity and these people still hold on!!

Posted by: John | September 27, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm

Pathetic Palin can talk to people in a bar, but cannot talk to the press.
Palin running as VP is an insult to the American people. And, an insult to intelligent women.

Posted by: Jan | September 27, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm

McSame/Failin
Love that……………

Posted by: JR | September 27, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm

McCAIN; P.O.W.
PALIN: M.I.A.

Posted by: Ed from MA | September 27, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm

Biden watched the debate Friday night and appeared on tv afterwards to support his presidential running partner.
Palin was in a freakin bar and didn’t even have the courtesy to support McCain’s debate results.
Is is that McCain and Palin don’t get along? After all, they both do oppose each other on certain issues.
A vice president that doesn’t support her president’s actions? Yeah, that will really be good for us Americans if they get in office.

Posted by: LOfromMO1 | September 27, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm

Palin was at a bar during the debate?
Biden was on TV supporting Obama during the debate?

Posted by: newz4i | September 27, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm

Why would she talk to the press? She tried with Gibson and Coreick and was trashed. Let’s see if she is a “pit-bull with lipstick” with Biden. In Philly when you don’t work you can go to the rallies and protest. Maybe she should have invited them in for a drink.
In Texas we respect women…we will listen to what she has to say and make our decision.

Posted by: MEW | September 27, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm

Like Matt Dilion said, Palin as VP is like a bad Disney movie (Hockey MOM to VP). I say its more like a reject from American idol that gets votes for cause her hair looks nice. Go ahead and vote em in. See ya at the unemployment
line

Posted by: Puppet4VP | September 27, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm

Palin will be about as useless to the American people as she is to her running mate. Drink up!!

Posted by: Puat | September 27, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm

No. Biden got one.

Posted by: Roger Miller | September 27, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm

Palin may remember the name on the bracelet, but she won’t remember the issues because she doesn’t know what they are.

Posted by: WendyL | September 27, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm

McCain-Palin ’08
Sorry it ain’t going to happen.

Posted by: gl | September 27, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm

So you would rather have a guy as VP who doesn’t now who the president was during the depression and tells people the president came on TV and made an announcement when the stock market fell…….TV wasn’t invented for decades. That is who you want to be a heartbeat from the presidency? NOT ME.

Posted by: Joan Barnes | September 27, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm

This ding bat got called out by CNN for a post debate comment but there were no signs of her anywhere. Biden was on CNN and MSNBC. He’s not afraid to talk right or wrong…she’s a straightup joke and the rep know it. Stop runnin Casper (u know, da ghost)

Posted by: Puppet4VP | September 27, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm

Sarah Palin’s usefulness to the GOP has apparently ended. If she does not show the American people on Thursday that she knows her stuff and is ready to lead this great nation, McCain and his campaign will be tossing her under the next bus headed for Alaska. Mark my words!

Posted by: indy in tx | September 27, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm

Is the alternative a VP that hides because she doesn’t even know who Franklin Roosevelt is?
I’ll take Biden’s gregarious gaffe-ishness any day.
McCAIN: P.O.W.
PALIN: M.I.A.

Posted by: Ed from MA | September 27, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm

Joan
I would like my VP to come out of the bushes when things get tough. Not run from the issues. Make a stand and stand by it. right or wrong. Tell me where Palin stands… oh yea, she’ll get back with us in writing…Need to write her off da ticket – straight joke and embarrassment to the country

Posted by: Puppet4VP | September 27, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

bekulbokem – it says something about people’s intelligence, or lack thereof, that they can listen to Palin in an extremely benign and gentle interview with Katie Couric and still think it’s ok for her to be one step away from the presidency. If THAT’s who you want in charge, good luck. You will totally, totally need it. McCain did not, repeat, did not put country first when he chose her as his running mate. You poor fools.

Posted by: counting crows | September 27, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm

Now that Palin has made it official that her position on Sen. Ted Veco Stevens is “thanks, but no comment,”
it is time for a new Palin watch. “If you should become President would you nominate fresh, reform minded Supreme Court Justices like Harriet Miers?”

Posted by: ricky | September 27, 2008, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm

Bekubolkem said ” I am glad I live in Texas. Texans know how to treat ladies.
Hockey moms for Palin.” Nonsense. No self respecting Texas Mom lets her boy play hockey. Second, real Texans only concern with global warming is how quickly the ice melts so Texas can be the “largest and grandest” state again in the words of their state song. Texas joined the US on its own initiative. Alaska was surplus Ruskie property.

Posted by: ricky | September 27, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm

I don’t hate Palin personally, I don’t know her. I hate everything she represents:
1) Hypocrisy – accountability and transparency except when she is asked to answer to charges, then everyone is a no show
2) Sexism – let’s pick a woman but make sure that she is attractive and silent for the most part – or better yet not intellegent enough to question our agenda
3) Religious Fanatasicm – she holds governmental prayer meetings, attends a church that preaches about witchcraft and anti-semitism, and talks about Iraq as “God’s War”
We have been fighting this narrow mindedness for centuries. Whether you like it or not there is a seperation between church and state for a reason – because historically the two DO NOT rule well together!

Posted by: Sharon | September 27, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm

Seriously…this country is going down da tubes and McCain/Palin is the answer? If you vote for them blame youselves next year. I’m not sure I would want to take over this mess Bush has created, But black, blue or green, Obama runs circles around that guy. Guess thats normal, he has to be twice as qualified.

Posted by: Puppet4VP | September 27, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm

Every poll shows that Johnny McSame lost last night’s debate by 20 points or more. And, some conservative commentators are crawling out of the woodwork to call for Palin’s resignation from the G.O.P. ticket. This call being made even before she debates Sen. Joe Biden. doesn’t bode well for the G.O.P. ticket, even though we know she’ll look like a complete airhead during the debate. The G.O.P. reminds me of the Tidy Bowl man as he gets suck down into the toilet. Obama/Biden 2008!!!

Posted by: caliguy55 | September 27, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm

samhiguchi
Blah Blah Blah Obama Blah Blah Blah. Just admit that Palin was a terrible choice. And McCain made a bad decision of choosing her. If he needed conservatives that bad he should of chose Giuliani at least he could of attempted to make New Your a swing state and solidify Florida.

Posted by: MM | September 27, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm

Sandra said “Palin should have been on TV spinning for McCain rather than at a debate party in Philadelphia.” Since when does the head of the Palin-McCain ticket need to spin for the old Geezer who is head of her fan club?

Posted by: ricky | September 27, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm

I am so afraid for this country if McCain and Palin are elected in Nov. The country will witness vicious, venom spewing, hateful attacks on McCain and Palin for the next four years. The vile insults and meaness Democrats and liberals have exhibited toward Bush will pale in comparison. I don’t know if it’s more evident because of the internet or this country has spawned a generation of hate mongers. I am almost 70 and I fear letting my views be known in my neighborhood because of the hate attacks it provokes from Obama supporters. These people are sick.

Posted by: Mary in Hawaii | September 27, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm

God I miss Philly! I have been living in Florida for three years and am totally bored.

Posted by: DMR | September 27, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm

Obama’s supporters are just plain rude, hateful and childish. One might say they’re imitating their shallow leader!

Posted by: dl | September 27, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm

I love Philly. A few years ago a friend took me down to see the gum trees on South St. Jake, you know what I’m talking about.

Posted by: Tungsten | September 27, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm

McCain cause this mess. Sending surrogates to bang the sex card every time the GOP ticket was criticize. The media didn’t like that and made McCain feel it.McCain had to win the debate to keep the race competitive but since he hasn’t been talking about the issues (believe race is about personalities) he wasn’t able to concretely give his ideas. That why he was talking about government spending during the economic crisis and not foreclosures, wall street or main street. McCain hinged his War stance on the Surge without providing context and gave Obama an opening to undermine his claims. All Obama needed to do is stand toe to toe with McCain and Obama exceeded that in that he won some foreign policy arguments. The debate may be a tie but Obama won the NIGHT.

Posted by: MM | September 27, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm

Why did palin not come out last night and support mccain on the media like biden did her blowing off the media is like her saying we the people are not good enough to hear from her well OBAMA BLEW MCCAIN AWAY IN THE DEBATE HE WAS GREAT cant wait for the palin/biden debate you think obama did a landslide last night wait until biden gets done with I CAN SEE RUSSIA FROM MY HOUSE HAHAHAH OBAMA/BIDEN08

Posted by: angie | September 27, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

Coolrepublica said “I don’t understand the hatred. It doesn’t make sense to me.” As many leaders of the values voters remind us “Hate the lies not the liars.” I don’t hate Palin. I miss
Quayle. He never said “Thanks, but no thanks for that potatoe.”

Posted by: ricky | September 27, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm

ricky
Your right hate the lie but you should still hold the liar accountable. Protesting is a way to do that, plus it is protected by the 1st amendment in the constitution.

Posted by: MM | September 27, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm

Wonder how the “Hold Palin Accountable Rally” is going on in Alaska….
More and more are seeing her for what she really is…. NOTHING

Posted by: l | September 27, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm

Some ask why should she talk to the press? Maybe because she is running for the second highest position in the country? Why is she running away from the press? One debate won’t let us know if she is ready or not, and she needs to be ready. Weather people like it or not the more she runs away the more they will ripe apart every word she says because there not much out there for the press to report on, and the last time I checked she was a big thing. She got the base up and going, and now all we get are two or three interviews? Why was she picked then if not to support McCain in all events including showing her face on TV once the debate is over? Who cares about what Rudy G. says or thinks, last time I checked he wasn’t running as McCain number two? So why are we hearing from him and not her? Your losing my vote with everyday that goes by Mr.McCain…

Posted by: jeff | September 27, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm

Man… this is so obvious, the new tactic played by the McCain campaign. Have some ghostwriters write those fake stories that liberals = intolerance.
You McCain campaign guy’s are really bonkers, instead focusing on important matters.
McCain really doesn’t now the difference between tactics and strategy… And you can’t win this election by STUPID TACTICS.

Posted by: CLabs | September 27, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm

cs provided a link to back up the claim that “McCain Camp insiders say Palin “clueless.” I did not follow it.
They are a just bunch of paid lobbyists.

Posted by: ricky | September 27, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm

MM
Just to let you no how accountable and well experience Palin is. The McCain campaign is now running the Alaskan government. Politizing the government before getting elected is a step foward in Bush’s book.
The debate got so bad for McCain he started comparing Obama to Bush. Nothing substantive about that.He ran out of arguments against Obama. Hence the de-evolution into “it’s dangerous, and it’s naive, and he’s inexperience, and 26 years ago.”

Posted by: MM | September 27, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm

Obama thugs are intolerant and act like mobs. They are a disgrace to decent Americans everywhere. So much for the city of brotherly and sisterly love, more like brotherly and sisterly hate.

Posted by: JKIR | September 27, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm

Easy win for McCain. He has a really good grasp of the issues and a record of getting stuff done.
Conversely, Obama has rhetoric and no record. I was shocked how disrespectful and malicous Obama seemed yesterday, constantly interrupting McCain while he spoke, and addressing him by his first name.
Most folks agree that Obama didn”t look like the proverbial “cool customer” last night, instead he seemed angry when he wasn”t speaking, and when he did speak, standoffish.

Posted by: Lyn | September 27, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm

If McCain is smart, he either dumps Palin before the vice-presidential debate or finds a way to cancel it. There’s no way Palin is up to the challenge.
I don’t like Joe Biden, but as an independent supporting Obama, I hope McCain keeps Palin on the ticket and that the debate goes on.
I’ll enjoy seeing that unqualified, uninformed, self-satisfied nut go down in flames.

Posted by: Alex | September 27, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm

MM. I agree with you. Probably on most things. Especially on 1st Amendment rights. So here is one of my freely expressed and constitutionally protected opinions. Most people who dress up in pink outfits and disrupt hearings both look and sound silly.
That said, Philadelphians razzing is not only constitutionally protected, it is an expectation fundamentally endowed by their maker.

Posted by: ricky | September 27, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm

ricky
It’s funny … The Democrats were either going to nominate a woman or an African-American and somehow the Democrats are people of intolerance. It took the Republicans over 30 years to pick a female VP (that was way less qualified then Ferraro at the time when she was nominated).
Republicans screwed it up with deregulation. They didn’t realize that some regulations are there for a reason. The first rule of economics is that in the market people will act on self interest. If you legalize stealing, well guess what.

Posted by: MM | September 27, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm

Alex
I agree completely but I think that the republicans deserve better. I would love to see McCain throw the election away but it is not fair to the American people. Replace her with Huckabee at least people like him and know he is probably better at the economy then Palin or McCain. But McCain made his decision, I think he needs to sleep in it. If he switches now it’ll be too late and would be viewed as a slap in the face.

Posted by: MM | September 27, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm

JKIR said “Obama thugs are intolerant and act like mobs. They are a disgrace to decent Americans everywhere. So much for the city of brotherly and sisterly love, more like brotherly and sisterly hate.” If JKIR was a ball player he wouldn’t last half an inning if traded to Philly.

Posted by: ricky | September 27, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm

JKIR, I apologize. Pretend I an McCain and you are Obama. “I have been to Philadelphia. JKIR just does not understand.”

Posted by: ricky | September 27, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm

Oh, please! Biden had his Hillary moment when he said his helicopter had to make an emergency landing in a war zone, when they only had to land because of weather.
When Hillary made the same slip about her visit to Bosnia, the misogynist, liberal media was all over this story for a month, hammering her constantly. With Biden, hardly a peep…
Why do women not have equal rights in this country! and why does nobody seem to care!

Posted by: Judy | September 27, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

Judy
Hillary told the story more then once in a span of 3 months. By any other standard that is considered a lie. That is not sexist that is fact. And Biden, he didn’t make out of Iowa.

Posted by: MM | September 27, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm

Why do people who support Obama act like they are in a trance. College educated people are more likely to get caught up in a CULT.

Posted by: dee | September 27, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm

MM, please. Quit demeaning these strong Palin defenders who are upset that Cinderella was greeted outside a bar in Philadelphia by a crowd behaving like, how shall I phrase it, a bunch of Hockey Moms?

Posted by: ricky | September 27, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm

Rex
McCain insulted the American people with his VP pick. Now the people are using their 1st amendment right to show their anger.

Posted by: MM | September 27, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm

Dee is right. Those of us educated in college are more likely to be caught up in trances because, unlike Palin, we did not get hands laid on us and encantations which protect us from witchcraft. If I had not gone to college I would have learned that in Creation Science class.

Posted by: ricky | September 27, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

ricky
I’m sorry I demean them. I thought I was demeaning the pitbull in lipstick. I’ve never met a hockey mom, and I’m sure there nice people.
Proof:
Hockey Mom = Football Dad + XX chromosomes
Therefore
Football Dad = Pitbull
XX chromosomes = lipstick
How’s that for equal rights.

Posted by: MM | September 27, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm

Round 1: Obama
Round 2: Biden???

Posted by: Vanessa | September 27, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm

lol, wow… there has ALWAYS been people who use their “first amendment” rights like this. it just so happens, that this is by far, the most crucial election in our lifetimes so therefore, there will be more of this sort of things. especially from the underdgo democrats. they tend to activate like this more than republicns. nothing new.

Posted by: tim | September 27, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm

roxanne
Hillary gave that argument and Obama made her look like an idiot for doing it.
“The notion is that somehow my supporters are delusional and will see the light.” – Obama.
Worse yet it is an attack on voters which is a no no for any election.

Posted by: MM | September 27, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm

It is better not to display a political yard sign and let people think you are not interested in the election than to display a McCain/Palin sign and let them think you are an idiot :)
Any more of those Palin interviews before the debate?

Posted by: JR | September 27, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm

Obama thugs are intolerant and act like mobs. They are a disgrace to decent Americans everywhere. So much for the city of brotherly and sisterly love, more like brotherly and sisterly hate.
Posted by: JKIR |
Are you serious? I guess you didn’t know that they also booed Santa Claus. If you can’t stand the heat…well you know!

Posted by: roxanne | September 27, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm

If you truly are an undecided voter and haven’t seen Bill Moyer’s interview of Andrew Bacevich, you owe it to yourself and to your family to see this interview, and perhaps read Bacevich’s book, before you vote….
Bill Moyers is a leftist commentator. He has nothing to do with news and in no way could be called a journalist or reporter. He only invites people on that support his views. I put him in the same group as Hannity, Olbermann and Maddow. I always take whatever this group says with a grain of salt, because it’s biased to start off with. CSPAN is only real place to get just what was said and nothing more added.

Posted by: Tedinski | September 27, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm

I think McCain is right about ignoring education in this country. You start educating these kids and the Republicans will never win another election.

Posted by: Jim | September 27, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm

It is absolutely frightening to think that there are some Americans out there who wouldn’t mind having a ‘green’ Sarah Falin as their VP, in these highly complex and challenging domestic and foreign worlds.
No doubt that these are some of the same people who helped elect and re-elect the INCOMPETENT and wild bush to practically bring American economy, military, etc to their knees!
No foreign power has ever harmed America the way that bush-McCaint have harmed America with their lack of intelligence, incompetence and lack of vision and judgment.
Sarah Falin would merely complete the destruction of things America.

Posted by: Patriot | September 27, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm

ricky
MM is not my initials, they are the initials of my nick name. I happen to believe in the big bang and that it has no impact whatsoever in my faith in God. I don’t know where the Marxist thing is coming from. Perhaps your being sarcastic again.

Posted by: MM | September 27, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm

Tim
Are you making up stuff. I never said or wrote that. You guys and put whatever signs you want in your yard. You must be talking about a different MM.

Posted by: MM | September 27, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm

McCain and Palin should get their own network and do interviews. That is the only way they can be respected as human beings. Yes, they are human beings no matter what you might think. The press we have today is abnoxious, if they can ask the question when someones loved one has just met a tragic death, quote: “how did you feel” what a totally rude and stupid question.
No matter what McCain and Palin do it isn’t good enough. For instance, The View, Obama was treated like a sex idol and McCain was totally disrespected, eyerolling, and snickers no matter what he said. And, you ask why won’t they appear on TV and talk to the press.
Let Obama have his day with the press. They have such a love for him.
We hear about Ayers, Wright and all the other unsavory characters Obama has been involved with, and it is OK. If anything like this were to be linked to McCain or Palin it would be all we hear from the press and the republican party would throw them under the bus.
Let Obama have his day with the press. Maybe if we wish hard enough he will step in it.

Posted by: MEW | September 27, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm

roxanne…
you can keep talking about mccains “poosr” performance all you want. he could suffer a heart attack in the next debate, and i still wont vote for obama. so keep talking.

Posted by: tim | September 27, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm

ugh is not a word. like you’re canidate, you can spin it all you want, it dosent change the truth.

Posted by: tim | September 27, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm

Sarah Palin has been total disappointment. She has been kept away from News Media, only recently giving a very few and interviews were total disaster comments by her. Even with her intense studying since she was selected as Vice President she has not managed to grasp good substantive knowledge. Sarah Palin is presently under legislative investigation for abuse of power as Governor of Alaska. Alaska is presently under FBI investigation for political corruption – 11 Republican politicians indicted to date. FBI has been doing since 2004 long before Sarah Palin became governor. I have followed since she was chosen. My research, court transcripts of divorce trial, government/agency documents reveal damaging evidence she did indeed abuse her power as Governor. Sarah Palin is an alarming and shock factor!! No way is she qualified, somewhat knowledgeable now, or honest.

Posted by: Sharonklim | September 27, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm

No foreign power has ever harmed America the way that bush-McCaint have harmed America with their lack of intelligence, incompetence and lack of vision and judgment.
Do you always over-react like this? I think you’re all duped. The country will go on and do just fine no matter who’s elected. They’re all liars and crooks when you get right down to it. McCain and Obama both will do, say or act however they need to in order to win. 99% of Congress is the same way. Just look at what’s currently happening, do you see one single person admitting that maybe they helped cause this financial problem? No you don’t, they point at each other instead. I guess that makes them all right because they all caused it.

Posted by: Tedinski | September 27, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm

tim
I am not spinning anything. I pointing out the fact you challenge someone base on a word that has been used for decades and maybe even centuries. I have made mistakes before and have admitted it, why can’t you admit that what you did was at least incorrect if not wrong.

Posted by: MM | September 27, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm

The TRUE winner last night was Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee. McCains a fool. He knows nothing on the economy and fumbled his way around every question. My fellow republicans don’t kid yourself. Obama won the debate.
Enough with the democratic and republican party. Bob Barr08

Posted by: Alan | September 27, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm

Check out that Sarah Palin interview with Katie Couric!

Posted by: Jim | September 27, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm

Gus, better stay on the Alaska side of the Red River. Texans’s ain’t gender discriminating folk. We got cattle.
McCain-Palin? They got sheep.

Posted by: ricky | September 27, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm

I wonder if Palin has a bracelet too?
Posted by: Concerned in OH
I wonder if she has a brain! All we hear from her are stump speeches. Does she have any independent thoughts? Maybe she can get that crazy pastor to pray for one!

Posted by: roxanne | September 27, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm

Alan
I loved the idea if Bob Barr replacing McCain if he decided to not debate. It would of put Barr on the map and eventually led to an flow of supporters from McCain to Barr. But maybe I’m a little bias.

Posted by: MM | September 27, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm

This substantiates how really low class Barack Obama and his supporters are. That said, both Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton said that Obama was not ready to be President,and he proved it last night with his sorry performance in the debate. The pro-Obama media can try to spin it differently, but it will not work for the American people.

Posted by: Doreen | September 27, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm

Check out that Sarah Palin interview with Katie Couric!
Posted by: Jim
I’ll get ya some and bring um to ya!
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha! That was priceless!

Posted by: roxanne | September 27, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm

Obama Gestapo tactics at work in Philly.
Obama Gestapo tactics in Missouri threatening to arrest anyone you says an “untruth” about him.

Posted by: Zank | September 27, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm

Change we can believe in. That’s the democratic party who you want running Washington. HA!

Posted by: Christie | September 27, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm

Hmmp…B.Hussein Obama…has some liberal whiners in PA, huh…You think Republicans have time to send people to picket Biden? Get a life people! Sour grapes for Obama. The Dem’s need to listen to their former president and his first Lady, Bill & Hillary Clinton. Common…leave her alone…let the final election poll decide the administration. The Dem’s must be REALLY desperate and afraid of Sarah Palin to put on such a pathetic display. Anyway it was good to see MCCain mop the floor with Obama in the debate. That smile was a clear look of confidence. McCain is no slouch in a debate. No nervousness there at all. What did one person say,”You don’t score points on defence, friend. You got to go on the offense to win the game”. Go MCCain, Go Palin…the future president and vice president of the U.S.
JMO…for now…
:-)

Posted by: NorAnder | September 27, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm

>>>Obama Gestapo tactics at work in Philly.
Obama Gestapo tactics in Missouri threatening to arrest anyone you says an “untruth” about him.
They are doing that in VA too.

Posted by: Christie | September 27, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm

len
Thugs voter cage
Patriots protest

Posted by: MM | September 27, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm

roxanne…
ok. lets just say mccain did get “whipped” (whatever that means) last night. what does that change for you?

Posted by: tim | September 27, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm

Ask yourself…
If Obama had selected a running mate with the same education and experience as Palin, how do you think many Republicans would have responded?
My guess.. they would have called Obama an incompetent fool. I can just hear Rush, Bill O., Ann and Sean. They would be telling us that this is proof the radical liberals have lost their minds and should be sectioned.
The fact is…. McCain is telling America that Sarah Palin is the best available Republican ready to step in as President. That, my friends, makes John McCain look like a complete idiot.
It is your vote, folks. If you think either McCain or Palin can do a better job than Bush and Cheney… go for it.

Posted by: JR | September 27, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm

BTW: where was McSame’s flag lapel pin last night… it’s soooooo disrespectful of him…

Posted by: jeru | September 27, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm

roxanne…
ok. lets just say mccain did get “whipped” (whatever that means) last night. what does that change for you?
Posted by: tim
It doesn’t change anything but it does confirm what the rest of us have known for sometime now. McCain is an angry, old man with no clue about how to move this country forward.

Posted by: roxanne | September 27, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm

iraq was not a “mistake” to the majority of americans in the beginning. how it was handled is another story. katrina? do your research. look at the distinction between federal assistance and states responsibility. and 9/11 warnings?! you mean like the ones clinton ignored since 92? not to mention the terrorist actions that killed americans that he ignored? is that the warnings you are talking about? BOTH PARTIES ARE TO BLAME. quit playing the partisan game.

Posted by: tim | September 27, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm

if Palin can’t handle a bar in Philly hows she going to deal with Putin?

Posted by: jeru | September 27, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm

roxanne..
tell me, is it mccain himself you dont like, or his stance on the issues? becuse all you do is make stupid jokes about him and his age, and lack of eduaction and blah, blah, blah. all the personal attacks on him and any : idiot” who happens to support him. so tell me why you are voting for obama instead of comming in here and venting on all the “idiots”?

Posted by: tim | September 27, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm

tim
I like McCain as a person. Not how he runs his campaign though. I didn’t like that couldn’t look Obama in the eye when he was attacking him. I don’t like he supports the Iraq war, I don’t like he likes deregulation. I disagree with his voting record on Vet Benefits, and that he has surrounded himself with Federal Lobbyist. Specifically Rick Davis.

Posted by: MM | September 27, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm

“THE MONEY IS NOT THERE. but that dosent matter to the “mindless” left”
———-
The “left” is definitely not mindless; however, there is a different perspective.
If you compare the United States to most other Western countries, you may see that there are different sets of ideals and priorities. The FACT is.. if we truly want to survive, we absolutely have to change our direction.

Posted by: Jim | September 27, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm

Palin seems quite capable of handling boorish behavior. Her position on this bailout fiasco will be of great interest to conservatives. Many Democrats are pushing for the bailout. Not all are buying it but Frank, Pelosi and Reed seem quite sold on the idea of giving billions to wealth financiers.

Posted by: independent | September 27, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm

“if Palin can’t handle a bar in Philly hows she going to deal with Putin?”
She’ll offer Dobby a sock.
Obama is a bean counter. He recites numbers and statistics, but when it comes down to essential American values, he is totally confused. The right answer to the question of lessons learned about the war is that America prospered by not being a first-strike nation, that the Bush Doctrine while tactically correct, is strategically flawed.
A good lawyer would have understood that. A practiced lawyer would have taken advantage of the opening. Instead, he recited economic numbers.
That’s a professor, not a leader.

Posted by: len | September 27, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm

what is so hard for you liberals oto understand about this?! let me try to make this as simple as i can for you people. ok, im a conservative. not a right wing nut, evangevical nut job, but a fairly strong conservative. i dont really like john mccain. or alot of the republicans. so, what is it about barack obama that should entice me to vote for him exactly? he has the most liberal voting record in the senate, (when he actually voted) and plays the party line more than lindsay lohan. again, im not saying that i like mccain and alot of the republicans, but i cant STAND obamas policies and about 90 percent of the democrats ideas regarding the role of government. so why do you liberals find it amazing that we are going to give up on our values as conservatives and just vote for the “new guy”?! because he is young? because he speaks well? because he “energizes” the youth vote? you liberals just act like eveyone who wants “change” should vote obama. and its just not that simple. there are too many fundamental differences between people like him and conservatives. thats where the dems made a huge mistake. why they didnt offer someone more of a centrist, ill nevr know. it would have been a landslide.

Posted by: tim | September 27, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm

I believe that better if you argue the policies but you don’t. I am not voting for Obama because he is young and like able. You guys did that with Bush. I don’t think you understand anything and whats at stake. This debate is not about personality despite the McCain talking points. More Americans agree with Obama on most the issues.

Posted by: MM | September 27, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm

Could someone tell me how does dropping bombs on villages, killing people who you can’t even see, qualifies you as a hero.
Is it because you got cought and weren’t killed for it?–and blah blah blah infinitum
Obviously someone who’s never served one day in the military and probably has disdain for it. It wasn’t McCain’s decision to drop bombs, like it isn’t a soldier or sailor or marine or airman who decides they want to kill people. Those decisions are made by our policy makers and others who are appointed above us, we carry them out to the best of our abilities. All whoever served and all currently in uniform are heros as far as I’m concerned. You think sacrifice means a bad review or drop in the polls, but what about the men and women who’ve sacrificed their very lives just so a leftist like you can’t rant away. Give at least a little thanks to the military.

Posted by: Tedinski | September 27, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm

McCain getting his congressional history a little wrong.
McCain: Back in 1983, when I was a brand-new United States congressman,
the one — the person I admired the most and still admire the most, Ronald
Reagan, wanted to send Marines into Lebanon. And I saw that, and I saw the
situation, and I stood up, and I voted against that because I was afraid
that they couldn’t make peace in a place where 300 or 400 or several
hundred Marines would make a difference. Tragically, I was right: Nearly
300 Marines lost their lives in the bombing of the barracks.
This isn’t right. Marines were initially deployed to Lebanon in August 1982. McCain, however, was not elected to the U.S. House until November 1982, more than three months after Marines had already landed.

Posted by: Republican no more! | September 27, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

Palin must go! She has brought down the cause for intelligent women EVERYWHERE!
Send her back to skin a moose!

Posted by: Independant American Woman | September 27, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm

That is exactly the cynical behavior I was elluding to. The goal is not to shut someone up. It’s to prove why the candidate you support (your candidate) is better. I don’t like people making arguments that are not factual. I believe if helps you better if I corrected you instead of being nasty and disagree able. I don’t have to shut people up because the truth is on my side.

Posted by: MM | September 27, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm

Wow no love in the the city of brotherly love. Sarah “bewitched” Pailin is going to zap somebody with her mystical powers. I thought I saw her nose twinkle.

Posted by: Omentum | September 27, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm

yard signs:
I can see Russia from my window!
I was like 2 feet away from Henry Kissinger!
I survived a bar in Philly!

Posted by: Gus | September 27, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm

well, im not sure if more people agree with obama on the issues or not. i would have to say not because its a dead heat, so that pretty much debunks your claim. and i believe that obama is a GREAT politician. he knows what to say and who to say it to. he knows, because of mistakes made by both parties, the country is in danger. so, he is already one up just because he is new and his party is not in office right now. he is a socialist. i dont like socialism. i like the free market. i like capitalism. thats the bottom line. im saying that some of what he says dosent SOUND good, but i dont see things at face value like liberals do. there is ALOT more than meets the eye with a guy like obama, and there are different types of “dangerous”.

Posted by: tim | September 27, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm

Re: Sarah “bewitched” Pailin
LOLOL

Posted by: McHooverville | September 27, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm

im not here to support any canidate. if i could vote who i think would actually “change” america for the better, it would be ron paul. but, since we live in a media and special interest controlled nation, that is not an option. im here simply to disagree with barack obama and to try to voice my opinion why he would be worse for the country than john mccain. pretty simple really. they are both clowns, just so happens obama has a better outfit.

Posted by: tim | September 27, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm

You have no idea what a socialist is. It hasn’t been a dead heat for over a week now. You guys think health care is socialist then guess what Great Britain, Canada, half of Europe are socialist countries are socialist. That means most of NATO is socialist. And you happen to gloss over the fact that capitalism unregulated is disastrous which was just proven again this past month. So stop meandering around claiming socialist and appealing to people fears because that is not talking about the issues.

Posted by: MM | September 27, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm

Good information from the Tax Policy Center. McCain’s proposals are MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE and give less to most families making under $250,000. After all, the Reagan Revolution was about taking from the middle class to finance tax cuts for the rich.
Both John McCain and Barack Obama have proposed tax plans that would substantially increase the national debt over the next ten years, according to a newly updated analysis by the non-partisan Tax Policy Center. Compared to current law, TPC estimates the Obama plan would cut taxes by $2.9 trillion from 2009-2018. McCain would reduce taxes by nearly $4.2 trillion.
Obama would give larger tax cuts to low- and moderate-income households and pay some of the cost by raising taxes on high-income taxpayers.
In contrast, McCain would cut taxes across the board and give the biggest cuts to the highest-income households.

Posted by: Jim | September 27, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm

Do you really think she can’t take that kind of rude behaviour? She’s been to a few hockey games. She’ll buck up just fine.

Posted by: s.b. | September 27, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm

I would have voted for Ron Paul too…
But that cant happen so it Obama that gets my vote this time!

Posted by: Republican no more! | September 27, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm

What do you disagree with Obama on. Avoid using the “words” socialist and ugh and interjections.

Posted by: MM | September 27, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm

Senator McCain had home field advantage last Night FOREIGN POLICY. If it is a tie and count that for a win for Obama. It was a tie at worst and I personally feel that Obama smacked McCain around in a diplomatic matter. McCain threw a few punches that looked nice but it was just barfed up stump speech garb.
Frankly McCain has no footing. He tried serveral time to move to the center and try to do some cum-by-ya by touting his flimsy bi-partisan record.
face it OBAMA IS GOING TO WIN THE NEXT 2 DEBATES AND THIS ELECTION.

Posted by: Omentum | September 27, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm

trickle down economics isnt the problem, its that the government spends WAAAAAY too much money!!!!!!!!!!! are you kidding me?! it isnt a taxing issue, its a spending issue. why do those on the left ALWAYS blame it on taxes? even if tax rates change, history has shown that revenue remains relatively the same. so what does that tell us? ITS A SPENDING ISSUE. i am awake and paying attention sir. dont sit and listen to obama and his “taxes will save the middle class B.S” its all a lie and you apparently are falling for it.

Posted by: tim | September 27, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm

Government spending …. Who’s fault is that? “Socialist” Clinton has a surplus in spending.
Another thing Trickle down economics is the problem. Because The rich don’t spend as much as the poor and that leads to less money being pulled in by the government. So the pain of the lower classes trickled up via bad loans in the mortgage crisis. The Wall Streets banks didn’t have any money and now that there can’t be any loans. Small and large businesses are about to take a hit.

Posted by: MM | September 27, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm

IF HE SAY he didnt win miss congeniality one more time …. I am going to pass out.
That was sarah palin that won miss congeniality

Posted by: Omentum | September 27, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm

wow. first off, did i say regulation is a bad thing? of course not, because its necesarry. but just because there are changes that need to be made, that dosent mean im automatically going to hand everything over to the government!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and i do know what socialism is. in a nutshell, its when the government is in charge of things. im not here to debate on wheter socialism is a good thing or not, im just telling you that barack obama says he wants government control and oversight on more issues than any other presidential nominee in out history. this isnt made up, these are his words. so tell me, what makes you trust the government so much? tell me one issue that they have handled properly and effectively that gives you so much trust in them? thats the issue.

Posted by: tim | September 27, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm

Omentum
I thought the Ms. Congeniality line is Weird. It brought thoughts of Palin (Beauty Queen) more then thoughts on Obama. I thought it was well establish that Obama earned the nomination. This line also made McCain seem like a creepy old man.

Posted by: MM | September 27, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm

Healthcare – Obama is not socializing it, despite the misconception. Under his plan people can (not forced) purchase the government plan. There is no take over of Insurance companies – (That is socialist).
Regulation – Obama proposed closing tax loopholes also regulating the market so that they will not give bad loans (Subprime Mortgages) – which nobody disagrees with
- Cap and trade CO2 emissions (brings revenue to the government) keeps the enviroment cleaner and pushes for cleaner technology.
This is just a few.

Posted by: MM | September 27, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm

Whichever one wins they’ll only do part of what they promise, anyone who’s voted before knows that. a President isn’t a king and can’t just force his/her will on the whole population. Politics tends to go in cycles and people generally like checks and balances. If Obama gets in he’ll likely only enjoy a Democratic controlled congress for a couple years before that changes to Republican hands again, and then he’ll have a hard time doing anything. It’s happened over and over in our history and seems to be what the public likes.

Posted by: Tedinski | September 27, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm

Davis
What was up with McCain’s lip licking that was just weird!
obama talked directly to mccain..
Mccain couldnt even look at obam.
My mom always said guilty people and lairs can’t look you in the eye.

Posted by: Republican no more! | September 27, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm

I rather have a dream and have something to work towards. Then have no dream and give up.

Posted by: MM | September 27, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm

Did you folk see NC is now in play for Obama ?
Obama could win more than 300 E C votes

Posted by: Republican no more! | September 27, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm

I can hear the guy’s in the bar now, hey honey put some lipstick on this. LOL
EX Republican

Posted by: RGeier | September 27, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm

Obama supporters sound as immature as Obama himself. Obama comes across as a spoiled selfish and he makes my skin crowl. His ego is out of control and he is apparently believes everything he hears from the ABSleeze and the other mainstream media. He is a legend in his own mind!

Posted by: ubu1991 | September 27, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm

Gee….Obama has a hard time speaking without a teleprompter! Ah..ah..um…ah um … Obama’s speech of a teleprompter is less than articulate, and his lack of first hand experience in world events showed. Obama is just not experience, or articulate. His diction is atrocious, and he word stubles a great deal. Obama came accross in the interview as a first term junior senator with no real experience. Obama is a bad choice for President.

Posted by: jon | September 27, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm

Obama seems to be leading Virginia. I would like Obama win Florida. If Obama wins Florida McCain loses period. But the only poll that matters is the one on November 4.

Posted by: MM | September 27, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm

RGeier LOL

Posted by: Republican no more! | September 27, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm

MM you obviously don’t know your history. Just look at past elections if you don’t believe it. You really must think that everyone will love Obama and he’ll do a bang up job leading the country. As a citizen I sure hope he does, but remember that if things go wrong during his administration he’ll get blamed for that too. Politics is a two edged sword.

Posted by: Tedinski | September 27, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm

Tedinski
History goes back farther then the democratic and republican parties.

Posted by: MM | September 27, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm

Obama is promising anything to anybody to get a vote, and it is disgusting. I make the example of his no Nuclear Power position prior to the debate, and during the debate he plays that he doesn’t really have a problem with Nuclear Power. Well Obama….are you FOR or AGAINST ….Nuclear Power???? Obama is a Typical TWO FACED politician, with no real experience, and a bunch of talk that doesn’t work in the real world.

Posted by: jon | September 27, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm

Tim,
Right on!!
Ask folks from Canada about their health care and government. With Obama our government will be socialist.
Too bad we live in a blind and selfish society. Hopefully in the voting booth folks will vote for who they really believe in and not be swayed by an empty suit and empty promises.

Posted by: MEW | September 27, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm

I don’t care for Sarah Palin, a member of the wackiest sect of Christianity. But there is NO excuse for the way she was treated in Philadelphia, one of America’s highest-crime cities.
They need to clean up their own mess, and then think about treating people with a little respect, even if they disagree with someone’s politics.
Sarah Palin is an absolutely absurd choice for V.P., but she is still a human. The “protest”, as described is disgusting.

Posted by: Rhys | September 27, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm

Obama’s position changes daily, depending on what voter group he is lying to.

Posted by: jon | September 27, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm

Rhys
I’ve said it before I’ll say it again
Thugs voter cage
Patriots protest
The Boston Tea Party was a angry protest, I think calling someone something that sounds like a explicative is disgusting is exaggerating.

Posted by: MM | September 27, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm

jon
No they don’t and I’ve watch him in East Coast, West Coast, Mid West, South. McCain talking points are easy to cut and paste isn’t it.

Posted by: MM | September 27, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm

MEW
I just wanted to make sure….

Posted by: MM | September 27, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm

Alaska Govenor Sarah Palin’s husband supports Alaska seceding from the U.S. and her spiritual mentor is a witch doctor.
Why is no one questioning them about that?

Posted by: McCain/Palin = Corporations First | September 27, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm

Your comments I was referring to your comments. What else could I be referring to. I don’t even know you.

Posted by: MM | September 27, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm

I would like to ask only one question of my fellow republicans. If the last 8 years of Bush (with McCain’s approval,a.k.a. his voting record) has been great for the country, then how the heck did McCain ever get the nomination, instead of running that “patriot” VP Cheney to continue the current administration’s policies???

Posted by: Charlie | September 27, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm

It is good to react to the Republican machine attacks.
We need to show our strength and stop being bullied by these guys.
ENOUGH OF REPUBLICAN LIES AND MANIPULATION.
ENOUGH OF REPUBLICANS IN POWER…8 YEARS IS MORE THAN ENOUGH DISASTERS.
GOD IS NOT FOR REPUBLICANS…WE SHOULD START READING HIS MESSAGES.
LET’S GO BACK TO GOOD DEMOCRATIC TIMES:
IN PEACE,
WITH JOBS,
WITH MONEY,
LEADING THE WORD.
09′ IS DEMOCRATS TIME.

Posted by: Enough | September 27, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm

Just because a couple of nut-case blogs prints something doesn’t make it true. No matter how bad you want to believe it.

Posted by: The Unshrub | September 27, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm

Obama and Democrats
The new Communist Party

Posted by: sam | September 27, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm

OBAMA: “Well, Senator McCain is absolutely right that the earmarks process has been abused, which is why I suspended any requests for my home state”
Another huge Obama gaffe. Obama admits he abused earmarks!

Posted by: geevill | September 27, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm

voter
Exactly
Fox is to Republican like
MSNBC is to Democrat.
When the Fox poll says that Obama won – there shouldn’t be an argument.

Posted by: MM | September 27, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm

At the debate, John McCain showed up without running mate Sarah Palin, which is a shame because she actually has a lot of experience with financial matters. You know, she lives right next to a bank.

Posted by: hank | September 27, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm

geevill
Look at the substance of the earmarks and you’ll be titillatingly surprised. Palin still has more earmarks per person in her state. One Obama earmark was for gang violence prevention. I guess that means Obama was wrong for asking for that.

Posted by: MM | September 27, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm

The only way Obama can win is to call people racist, use scare tactics, call out his thugs to intimidate people.
BO is way to wimpy to fight his own fights.

Posted by: riley | September 27, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm

riley
Obama hasn’t called anybody racist. McCain camp sure did scream sexism though. But I guess McCain can release an ad trying to link Obama to a black man he only met for 5 minutes.
The movie “Head of State” did the same with the guy at the gas station. Although the movie was more absurd then real life, Art imitates life.

Posted by: MM | September 27, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm

Kissinger was just on Fox lying his butt off!
Obama: Senator McCain mentioned Henry Kissinger, who’s one of his advisers, who, along with five recent secretaries of state, just said that we should meet with Iran – guess what – without precondition. This is one of your own advisers.
Kissinger Sept. 20: Well, I am in favor of negotiating with Iran. And one utility of negotiation is to put before Iran our vision of a Middle East, of a stable Middle East, and our notion on nuclear proliferation at a high enough level so that they have to study it. And, therefore, I actually have preferred doing it at the secretary of state level so that we — we know we’re dealing with authentic…
CNN’s Frank Sesno: Put at a very high level right out of the box?
Kissinger: Initially, yes.But I do not believe that we can make conditions for the opening of negotiations.

Posted by: Republican no more! | September 27, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm

Thinking about the following characteristics and qualities, please say whether you think each one better described Barack Obama or John McCain during tonight’s debate:
• Was more intelligent: Obama 55%, McCain 30%
• Expressed his views more clearly: Obama 53%, McCain 36%
• Spent more time attacking his opponent: McCain 60%, Obama 23%
• Was more sincere and authentic: Obama 46%, McCain 38%
• Seemed to be the stronger leader: Obama 49%, McCain 43%
• Was more likeable: Obama 61%, McCain 26%
• Was more in touch with the needs and problems of people like you: Obama 62%, McCain 32%

Posted by: Outcome | September 27, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm

Caribou Barbie in Philly?

Posted by: Gus | September 27, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm

The sad thing is Obama himself encouraged his supporters to be rude and disrespectful. What a shame!

Posted by: Fallon | September 27, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm

I don’t think the Palin problem is fixable.
She is who she is: an unqualified fundamentalist liar with no knowledge of or experience in national domestic or foreign policy.
And McCain had absolutely no idea who she was when he picked her.

Posted by: kissinger | September 27, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm

Trashes America
Why didnt John McCain have a flag Pin on ?
Who hates America ??
Palin’s husband wants Alaska to be its own country Palin was a member till she became Govoner.
Yawn…
Middle class folk will take their country back from the lobbyists the pull mccains strings.
Vote Obama
This former Republican is!

Posted by: Republican no more! | September 27, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm

Wow, if Obama has such contempt for the working man, why is every member of my blue collar Pittsburgh family voting for him? Obviously they don’t feel contempt. Why are unions supporting Obama? Because they know that Obama is on their side. How can some guy married to an heiress, and who doesn’t even know how many houses he owns, be on the side of working men and women?

Posted by: aisler | September 27, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm

If you missed the news this week, you didn’t miss all that much.
The stock market threatened to crash, but didn’t.
John McCain threatened to skip the presidential debate unless members of Congress approved a huge financial bailout, but they didn’t, so he didn’t.
The debate went on; the candidates stayed on message; the pundits all
agreed that it wasn’t a “game-changer.”
You did miss the largest bank failure in American history, not to mention a $25 billion bailout of the auto industry, but that’s chump change these days, right?
You might not have heard that investment banks are now officially extinct, but basically the economy is on the same precipice it was on last week.
What you DID miss was an amazing week of political theater, starring the frenetic, operatic, borderline erratic McCain, the former fighter pilot who seems to have found his calling as a kamikaze politician.
He might not win the election — another thing you missed this week was Barack Obama pulling ahead in the polls — but when it’s over he’s a shoo-in for a show on TNT.
RuPaul doesn’t know drama like McCain knows drama.

Posted by: Bloody Mary | September 27, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm

“The truth is,” Obama said, “through ninety minutes of debating, John McCain had a lot to say about me, but he had nothing to say about you. He didn’t even say the words “middle class.” Didn’t say the words “working people.””
Obama discussed the bailout package that lawmakers hope to pass this weekend before markets open on Monday, laying out his proposals and reiterating the need for strict oversight.
“This administration started off by asking for a blank check to solve this problem,” said Obama. “It is unacceptable to expect the American people to hand this administration or any Administration a $700 billion without any conditions attached, without any oversight when a lack of oversight in Washington and on Wall Street is exactly what got us into this mess in the first place.”
The Illinois senator mocked McCain for stealing the Democrats’ lines, laughing, “You gotta come up with your own stuff!”
“He’s been grabbing our signs, using our slogans,” said Obama. “The other day he said, I think, we need to ‘turn the page.’ It’s like, come on, John! I’ve been saying that for – how long have I been saying that? Pretty soon I’m going to have to start saying I’m a maverick!”

Posted by: Republican no more! | September 27, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm

Do you all hate Palin because she is beautiful…or just because she has more experience than the top of the democrat ticket?
She is a Governor…like Bush, Clinton, Reagan and Carter. That is real experience. 2 years as a Senator where you vote for nothing of substance, accomplish ZERO, and are proven to be the most liberal Senator in history is not experience. Obama is a disgrace.

Posted by: Dave | September 27, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm

Dave
I dont hate Palin I feel sorry for her I think she is in way over her head!
Being McCains running mate is a bad move! She should bow out and people should leave her alone!

Posted by: Republican no more! | September 27, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm

Dave
I dont hate Palin I feel sorry for her I think she is in way over her head!
Being McCains running mate is a bad move! She should bow out and people should leave her alone!

Posted by: Republican no more! | September 27, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm

REPUBLICANS ARE GETTING REALLY NERVOUS!!
There are ONLY 5 days to go until Palin has to take the stage next to Biden in the VP debate…
For 90 MINUTES she will stand up there and utter embarrassing “gibberish” just like she did with Katie Couric on CBS the other night…
The big difference is that this will be on TV in front of 60 million Americans watching and listening very closely to every word she speaks…..
Man, if I was a Republican I would be thinking about suicide right about now!
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Davis | September 27, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm

Palin Foreign Policy Irish pub talk.
Do you know I help the peace process in Ireland ?We stop for refueling the airplane there
Did you know I can see Russia from my house?
Did you know I said Thanks but not thanks to the bridge to nowhere?
Responsibilities of the Vice- President?
First to be Senator McCain cheerleader, and second if he die I will bomb Russia!
If I am ready to be President?
Of course I will never blink!

Posted by: foreclosure | September 27, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm

ellen
Borring!
Barack Obama is for the middle class and tax breaks for real people not coperations like john mccain is!
John McCain had a lot to say about Obama, but he had nothing to say about us. He didn’t even say the words “middle class.” Didn’t say the words “working people.””
Republican for Obama!

Posted by: Republican no more! | September 27, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm

She must have just learned the word paramount as she seems to be using it a lot lately.

Posted by: dzymzlzy | September 27, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm

MM,
Palin is not in Congress. She cannot propose a cent in earmarks. Your bracelet wearing boy Obama admitted he abused the earmark system.

Posted by: geevill | September 27, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm

The Arctic Ice Queen got a
chilly reception in Philly.
Comes with the territory.

Posted by: anon | September 27, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm

Now we know that not only Obama can lead, but also he had a plan for the future of this great country!
Now McCain can snooze tight. Obama can answer the 03.00 am call any time!
Rebublicans can spin like wash machine all day long! The truth is
Senator McCain past actually impairs him from to be flexible and confront the future with open mind. .Senator Obama foreign policy is moderate but also smart. That helps to keep our friends near, and or foes nearer!
What an ostrich and the Republicans have in common? Let me guess!
An ostrich bury its head in the sand and pretend everything is fine.
Republicans do the same and follow McCain!

Posted by: foreclosure | September 27, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm

McCain said he would not go to the debates until a deal was done on the $700b package!
Was the deal done ??
NO
Did he go to the Debate ?
Yes
When he tells Iran not to do this or else will they believe him ?
NO
McCain blinked said one thing then backed down like a worm!
McCains unfit to lead!

Posted by: Republican no more! | September 27, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm

Hannity interview with Sarah Palin was charming. She looks so confident and savvy! ONLY because of so many rehearsals!

Posted by: foreclosure | September 27, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm

Looks like the pitbull with lipstick has been muzzled. While Biden made the rounds on most networks, Palin was where? Is McCain so distrustful of Palin’s abilities, that he won’t allow her to speak to the press on his behalf. How sexist of McCain to muzzle Palin.

Posted by: Joyce | September 27, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm

@cara: Using Father Pfleger’s phrases and terms hardly makes you sound like someone hopeful for real change. It’s thuggery.
Obama is a bean counter. That’s why he needs the mob to get him elected.

Posted by: len | September 27, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm

Why are Obama supporters so full of hate? And why do they even bother to protest? No one, who is there, cares. I do not care for Obama, but it would never occur to me to say to myself, hey, Obama is in Philly, I think I will go protest him being there. He has a right to hold a rally, or stop by a bar. Only Dems preach rights, unless you do not agree with them.

Posted by: Ally | September 27, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm

What?! Why can’t Gov. Sarah Palin make a appearance in PA? This is America? Why can’t she make a appearance to he supporters. Why are Obama supporters being so unamerican? Why are they trying block Gov. Palin from speaking. Let’s be Civil. This a free country.
This is still America we have a democracy. We all get to vote. Then we tally up the votes. The one with the most votes become President. This haterd and anger trying keep her from speaking only shows fear from the Obama.
Behave civilly. Let Gov Palin speak to her supporters. And she will get to speak to her supports whether the Obama camp wants her to or not. And Obama will speak to his. When the election is over. We all have to live with each other. This blocking her is wrong! All this anger and aggression is wrong! The people get vote.
The People will choose the President. Not the obama Camp. You guys are becoming Thugs. Is that what you want people to think of Obama?
Danny

Posted by: Dannygirl | September 27, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm

What?! Why can’t Gov. Sarah Palin make a appearance in PA? This is America? Why can’t she make a appearance to her supporters. Why are Obama supporters being so unamerican? Why are they trying block Gov. Palin from speaking. Let’s be Civil. This a free country.
This is still America we have a democracy. We all get to vote. Then we tally up the votes. The one with the most votes become President. This haterd and anger trying keep her from speaking only shows fear from the Obama.
Behave civilly. Let Gov Palin speak to her supporters. And she will get to speak to her supports whether the Obama camp wants her to or not. And Obama will speak to his. When the election is over. We all have to live with each other. This blocking her is wrong! All this anger and aggression is wrong! The people get vote.
The People will choose the President. Not the obama Camp. You guys are becoming Thugs. Is that what you want people to think of Obama?
Danny

Posted by: Dannygirl | September 27, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm

Give me a break about the negative sentiment towards McCain/Palin. Don’t tell me you never saw the racist comments being made.
Palin is an embarrassment to herself, and McCain did some wacky things the last two weeks.
With the financial crisis and Palin giving these terrible interviews it’s no wonder McCain is losing his marbles.
I predict after the Palin-Biden debate it’s pretty much game over. The people will see the emperor is wearing nothing at all.

Posted by: CLabs | September 27, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm

“Sarah “bewitched” Pailin is going to zap somebody with her mystical powers. I thought I saw her nose twinkle.”
So now the Democrats are going after a forty year old sitcom character?
My stars!
I guess you don’t ming Nancy “Esmerelda” Pelosi stirring a cauldron full of pork for the Wall Street hedge fund managers but forgetting which Blackberry is hers.
Oh well. Alabama is up on Georgia right now and some contests are just more important the Barack’s Magic Beans.

Posted by: len | September 27, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm

I dont like Palin. But I actually feel sorry for her. John McCain has not only made her a laughing stock but he also is helping her ruin her career. Although she should have said Thanks but No thanks when asked to be his VP But with that Big Ego of hers she will Crash and Burn…. Hmmm do you think her pastor Did get rid of the Witchcraft. And now not only The Whole US but possibly Alaska will be rid of her also.

Posted by: Kim | September 27, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm

Can we now admit the obvious? Sarah Palin is utterly unqualified to be vice president.
She is a feisty, charismatic politician who has done some good things in Alaska. But she has never spent a day thinking about any important national or international issue, and this is a hell of a time to start. The next administration is going to face a set of challenges unlike any in recent memory. There is an ongoing military operation in Iraq that still costs $10 billion a month, a war against the Taliban in Afghanistan and Pakistan that is not going well and is not easily fixed. Iran, Russia and Venezuela present tough strategic challenges.
Domestically, the bailout and reform of the financial industry will take years and hundreds of billions of dollars. Health-care costs, unless curtailed, will bankrupt the federal government. Social Security, immigration, collapsing infrastructure and education are all going to get much worse if they are not handled soon.
And the American government is stretched to the limit. Between the Bush tax cuts, homeland-security needs, Iraq, Afghanistan and the bailout, the budget is looking bleak. Plus, within a few years, the retirement of the baby boomers begins with its massive and rising costs (in the trillions).
Obviously these are very serious challenges and constraints. In these times, for John McCain to have chosen this person to be his running mate is fundamentally irresponsible. McCain says that he always puts country first. In this important case, it is simply not true.

Posted by: time bomb | September 27, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm

John McCain hobby? Political stunts!
John McCain dream? Be the president no matter what!
John McCain political ideology? Opportunist!
John McCain cheerleader? Sarah Palin.!
John McCain favorite place? Florida, many elderly residents and you can manipulate the voting results!
John McCain favorite Cable news? FOX spin masters!
John McCain favorite movie? Pinocchio!
John McCain favorite song? Bomb.Bomb..Bomb Iran!
John McCain favorite word.? President Reagan ,my friends!.
John McCain friends? Wealthy people like him.!
John McCain ability ?Regular flip flop.!
John McCain number of houses? Seven!
John McCain Number of cars?Eleven!
John McCain favorite song?Bomb.Bomb..Bomb Iran!
John McCain definition of middle class?Under five million assets!
John McCain family business value? Over hundred millions!

Posted by: foreclosure | September 27, 2008, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm

“I guess you don’t ming Nancy “Esmerelda” Pelosi stirring a cauldron full of pork for the Wall Street hedge fund managers ”
The enormous profits being made by hedge funds only started during the Bush government. Now we must bailout Wallstreet, else the economy will collapse.
We should thank Phil Gramm and George W. for this fine mess they got us into.

Posted by: CLabs | September 27, 2008, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm

Why doesn’t the press ever mention the fact that this woman uses the phrase, “you guys,” all of the time. I get super irritated when the server at the local Denny’s says that to me and my daughter. Now I have to listen to our Vice Presidential candidate saying it????? No wonder she needed so many colleges to get her degree.

Posted by: wow | September 27, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm

The democratic party has become the party of hate mongers. I find Palin perfectly capable and a lot more entertaining than the blow hard Biden. I am a long time democrat and I want everyone to have a voice.

Posted by: dydx | September 27, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm

People in the US think that being rude is a sign of intelligence. Palin has more executive experience than anyone else in the race. OK, as a democrat, I find some of her positions odd, but she is certainly better than Dan Quayle – OK, I am searching for a democrat – Jimmy Carter comes to mind. I think she would do a better job than Carter did. At least she is listening to the people. She has an 83% approval rating as governor.

Posted by: dydx | September 27, 2008, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm

What are Obama’s qualifications again??

Posted by: sc | September 27, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm

Obama supporters are oh soo classy… Must be that
new “get in your face” strategy being advocated by the candidate himself.

Posted by: Nod | September 27, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm

I find Palin perfectly capable and a lot more entertaining
Not perfectly capable but definately entertaining.

Posted by: zz | September 27, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm

This board is full of dung, and many Republican shills – real waste of time for the most part.
We need change over the past 8 years of going down the wrong track, and having mostly cronies appointed in driving the bus over the cliff…Gonzalez, “Brownie”, Libby, Goodling –it’s a VERY long list. Miserable Failure — enough already.
Anyone notice that McCain, if up to him, never would have pulled troops out of Vietnam? Said he would always help his ‘boys’, but gave no support to the 2008 Veterans bill? Abject accomplished liar, and dishonorable in his role as presidential nominee.
Friends don’t let friends vote Republican.

Posted by: Jack of PA | September 27, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm

As I recall, Pennsylvania Democrats chose Hillary Clinton over Obama.
I would guess that the same voters who are “clinging to their religion and guns” (as Obama put it) will take a closer look at Obama’s stance on guns and religion before they vote.
The few that protested Sarah Palin are undoubtedly paid Obamabots.
With Obama and Biden, we would have two of the three most liberal voting Senators in the United States running a regime occupying the White House.
No matter how Obama supporters spin it, Obama/Biden will not be good for religion or individual gun ownership in this country.
Not good for Pennsylvania or any other state in the Union.
Anybody But Obama/Biden…

Posted by: Jayhawk | September 27, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm

We all have to remember the democratic party and the biased liberal media have done a real hack job on Sarah Palin. They went after her like she was the #1 on the ticket, because after the convention she made their #1 look mediocre. So she didn’t have the best interview with Katie, big deal, have you listened to Joe Biden lately and nobody is even asking him any questions. We have to go back to her accomplishments in Alaska and what made John pick her in the first place. He didn’t pick her because she gives a good interview, he picked her because she is a go getter and she will help trim the fat in Washington. I have not lost my respect or support for her, that is exactly what the dems want to happen. Fellow Republicans don’t play into it! Stand by our girl and she will work hard for us in Washington.

Posted by: Brenda | September 27, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm

Just goes to show, no matter the case, the media will always spin a negative slant on Gov. McCain, reinforcing the fact that they are in bed with Obama. She’s doing everything a VP candidate should do, meet with heads of state, meet with common ordinary people, do interviews, etc, but it doesn’t matter, the media will always show it in a negative light, nitpicking at her every word or gesture. Obama and Biden have never gone through this blatantly biased gauntlet that the media has placed up for Gov. Palin. It’s great to know that whenever the media launches their own blanket negative campaign on a candidate, you can always be assured that the person will be good for America and rather than vote for the “lesser of the two evils”, it would be easier to say “Vote for the candidate the media hates.”

Posted by: Emm | September 27, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm

Is dannygirl suggesting that the Obama campaign is muzzling Palin. Wow how did they become so powerfull. Has McCain so totally lost it that his opponent is running his campaign?
You know republicans can’t have it both ways about Palin’s experience. John McCain told Romney in one of the debates that he was not qualified to be president, because he had only been mayor and governor, and that he had led for profit, and not for patriotism, as he John McCain, discounting the last part, how does Palin’s executive eeperience differ from Romney’s?

Posted by: morrigan | September 27, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm

Typical Philly fans. Palin would have received a warm welcome if she was in Pittsburgh. Maybe the Flyers fans are still bitter they lost to the Penguins in the Stanley Cup Playoffs. Pittsburgh for McCain/Palin ’08

Posted by: WesternPA | September 27, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm

What is Obama’s answer to lack of cash flow in banks?
Tax them more.
What is Obama’s deeds as to “equal opportunity & pay for women”?
No VP ticket for women.
What is Obama’s solution to Iran’s nuclear threat?
Meet their President Unconditionally.
Obama want to change USA into a thrid world country.
That’s degradation. That isn’t change.
McCain-Palin for American future.

Posted by: Reuel | September 27, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm

“We should thank Phil Gramm and George W. for this fine mess they got us into.”
Nope. Barney Frank stood there and told the world Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were “just fine” when McCain proposed reform. The very people telling you they are saving the republic are the very people who took the biggest handouts from the crooks.
And now they have their bean counter at the top of their ticket.
Palin? Not sophisticated enough? Not educated enough? Not smooth enough?
Doesn’t it occur to you the people who are are the very people who are robbing the national treasury right now?
When common people are too common for the highest office, something very very wrong has happened. Since when did we accept that we are the nation of the Ivy Leaguers?
Take back the government. Say no to the thugs in the expensive suits. Tell them they can take their services back to tjeir bankers in Moscow and Beijing. They love ‘em over there.

Posted by: len | September 27, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm

Quite the Palin solidarity-fest here
tonight. I hope all that loyalty indicates your readiness to go down with the ship. One week from now we’ll sail by and pick up the survivors.

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 27, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm

“One week from now we’ll sail by and pick up the survivors.”
A USC fan no doubt. Oregon State just a bunch of hick players, right?
This will be the sweetest election season in the last five. People are starting to do the math and read the non-mainstream news sources. They are beginning to understand that the bean counter with a slick speech is just a front dummy for the biggest bunch of rip off artists ever to grace the halls of Congress, and that’s saying a lot.
I think it’s Harry Truman time and you and yours are about to get the shock of your lives. Hope you can get some of those millions back from the mob.

Posted by: len | September 27, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm

Palin? Not sophisticated enough? Not educated enough? Not smooth enough?
Nothing against her personally but she’s a joke!! She is way over her head. There’s a reason why McCain is not letting her do more interviews.

Posted by: zz | September 27, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm

lenny,
I’m a Wolverine.

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 27, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm

Lenny,
One more thing, Truman was a Democrat, so what is your point?

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 28, 2008, 12:01 am 12:01 am

She’s doing more interviews than Biden, despite the media bias and ridiculous attempts to unfairly judge her.
The Dem robots are stepping up irrelevant comments to shift focus off of the fact that Biden had to be told by Obama to shut his mouth because they can’t even coordinate their lies to match on any given day.
Where does it say that McCain isn’t allowing Gov. Palin to do interviews? What sort of nonsense are you perpetuating with that ridiculous claim?
Why would McCain/Palin give any additional opportunity to be misrepresented by a biased in bed with Obama media?

Posted by: Emm | September 28, 2008, 12:11 am 12:11 am

Emm,
Getting elected with two cans and a string would be difficult even for Reagan.
If she is too good for the lowly press, then she is too good for the rest of us.

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 28, 2008, 12:13 am 12:13 am

It’s interesting that we get some reporting on this while many stories at least as relevant if not moreso get no national coverage at all. How about the news from KMOV in Missouri that Obama supporters in government there – St. Louis County Circuit Attorney Bob McCulloch, St. Louis City Circuit Attorney Jennifer Joyce, Jefferson County Sheriff Glenn Boyer, and the leader of his Missouri campaign, Senator Claire McCaskill – are forming a “truth squad” to sic the law on those putting out “untrue” ads on him? “If they’re not going to tell the truth, somebody’s got to step up and say, ‘That’s not the truth. This is the truth,’” McCullogh told the station. As KMOV put it, “The Barack Obama campaign is asking Missouri law enforcement to target anyone who lies or runs a misleading TV ad during the presidential campaign.”
And it’s amazing how the media can lie so easily. I’ve seen two articles which claim Palin said in her Gibson interview that Alaska’s proximity to Russia gave her foreign policy experience (Couric claimed the same thing). Check the transcript; she said no such thing. She answered questions about Russia, one of them on the proximity angle. And part of her answer was cut out. Now if you were a reporter interviewing a top politician from Alaska, and you asked about Russia along the lines of it being a threat, wouldn’t the state’s proximity come up first thing? During the Cold War (which so many people have evidently either forgotten or never experienced) the Soviet Union’s proximity to the U.S. due to Alaska was often mentioned. If you’re an Alaskan politician of a certain level, you should be thinking a lot of Russia being just next door. Does our military in that vicinity have Russia on their minds? Of course it does. Just recently Canada felt that Russia was trying to be intimidated and boosted their military alertness. “We are concerned about not just Russia’s claims through the international process, but Russia’s testing of Canadian airspace and other indications … (of) some desire to work outside of the international framework,” said Prime Minister Stephen Harper.

Posted by: Erika | September 28, 2008, 2:10 am 2:10 am

Joe Biden was chosen for VP, for his honesty free spirit and his experience!
He’s supposed to make a point when is needed. Sarah Plain was chosen for the position after only one meeting .The decisive factor was only the women’s vote and the prerequisite to be the John McCain cheerleader. She makes only scripted interviews and has very thin Resume. Sarah Plain VP? Thanks but not thanks!

Posted by: foreclosure | September 28, 2008, 2:27 am 2:27 am

Joe Biden was chosen for VP, for his honesty free spirit and his experience!
He’s supposed to make a point when is needed. Sarah Plain was chosen for the position after only one meeting .The decisive factor was only the women’s vote and the prerequisite to be the John McCain cheerleader. She makes only scripted interviews and has very thin Resume. Sarah Plain VP? Thanks but not thanks!

Posted by: foreclosure | September 28, 2008, 2:27 am 2:27 am

Emm,
She was asked to elaborate on her foreign policy experience. In response, she discussed Alaskas proximity to Russia.
It’s possible that she was answering a different question than the one posed.
How does that make me more confident in her grasp of international relations?

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 28, 2008, 2:30 am 2:30 am

The news here is that someone, ANYONE, was able to get through the multiple layers of McCain campaign aides insulating Palin from everyone but hardcore supporters.
A reasonable person has to ask: what are they hiding?

Posted by: Dave | September 28, 2008, 6:08 am 6:08 am

The Republican ticket!
John McCain (We bomb everything)
Sarah Palin (I see Russia from my house)
His aged and ambitious
She is young and motivated.
For him is the last chance to be President
For her the last chance to be his cheerleader.
Their story SPIN, LIES and LIPSTICK

Posted by: foreclosure | September 28, 2008, 6:56 am 6:56 am

New Republican slogan should be:
“Vote for the party that the media hates.”

Posted by: MEW | September 28, 2008, 10:26 am 10:26 am

Dave:
“A reasonable person has to ask: what are they hiding?”
Haven’t you heard, McCain and Palin are Republican; they have to be hiding something. Obama doesn’t have savory friends, doesn’t lie and his minister…
“Vote for the party the media hates.”

Posted by: MEW | September 28, 2008, 10:32 am 10:32 am

Obama is the one who said you can’t change Washington by simply changing the chairs people sit in. Then he puts a 36-year Washington insider on his ticket.
Now we have a true outsider added to a ticket who is closer to the lives of real Americans than any of the other three on the tickets.
Someone who can represent real people without Washington connections or favors owed to anyone. Paired with a maverick who has the best chance of bringing real change to the way Washington works than anyone else we’ve seen from either party.
The Democrats are using the scare tactic that McCain will suddenly drop dead and Palin will have to take over. Not likely with all we know about how closely Presidents are monitored by their physicians. But it’s the only chance they have of defeating the Republicans.
Bill Clinton said don’t let yourself be influenced because someone is trying to scare you. Smart man, Clinton.

Posted by: marylou | September 28, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am

Democrats are the ones that sold out our SSI.Democrats are the ones that REFUSED to recognize the problems with FannieMae and FreddieMac. Democrats are the ones who sold out main street for wall street. If you want the truth check out the voting records. There are bad apples in both groups, just fewer in the current Republican ticket. What we need to do is eliminate the electoral colledge in order to allow for third and even fourth party viability. As things stand at the moment I will be voting for the lesser of two evils. The Republicans! Oh, by the way this republican is well educated.

Posted by: Denise Povilat | September 28, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am

Denise,
The Dems introduced sub-prime loans in 1999, which was bad, and signed off on Phil Gramms economic agenda.
The Repubs introduced leveraging and the derivative market in 2003 through intensive, relentless deregulation.
If you think the Dems are primarily responsible for the problem then you are not as objective about the situation as you would like us to think.
I agree about the 2 party system. The only real solution is a parliamentary government, and we know how likely that is.

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 28, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm

McCain says he is a reformer because the records showed. Yes, the RECORDS showed. To win the election, he has changed his position to align with Bush. For example, tax cut. I wonder how he reforms the country when the majority of his aids are Bush’s people. As for Palin, she may be fine as a state governor, but absolutely has NO CLUES or SKILLS to run our country.

Posted by: CT | September 28, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm

leonardo:
Wolverine? Congrats on Wisconsin. Shocking weekend in the top ten. The Tide rolled over Georgia. WHOOP!!
“One more thing, Truman was a Democrat, so what is your point?”
Truman was a haberdasher first, and considered for the ticket only because FDR thought him incapable of being a power player. No one thought him capable of stepping in and FDR knew he was himself, unlikely to make it.
He did it anyway.
You know what you know but you know, you never know, you know? Life’s a long song.

Posted by: len | September 28, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm

That’s the Obama way, send out your brownshirts.

Posted by: pennsylvaniavoter | September 28, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm

Obama still only has 58% of Hillary Democrats onboard, same as June. That is about 7 million that won’t vote for Obama. Only about 30% of Democrats voted in the primaries. If the trend holds that is about 21 million Democrats that won’t vote for Obama. He can’t even get the Democrats.

Posted by: pennsylvaniavoter | September 28, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm

Leonard Peltier,
You wrote:
“She was asked to elaborate on her foreign policy experience. In response, she discussed Alaskas proximity to Russia.”
No, that isn’t the case. That’s clear from the transcript on the ABC site:
GIBSON: Let me ask you about some specific national security situations.
PALIN: Sure.
GIBSON: Let’s start, because we are near Russia, let’s start with Russia and Georgia.
The administration has said we’ve got to maintain the territorial integrity of Georgia. Do you believe the United States should try to restore Georgian sovereignty over South Ossetia and Abkhazia?
PALIN: First off, we’re going to continue good relations with Saakashvili there. I was able to speak with him the other day and giving him my commitment, as John McCain’s running mate, that we will be committed to Georgia. And we’ve got to keep an eye on Russia. For Russia to have exerted such pressure in terms of invading a smaller democratic country, unprovoked, is unacceptable and we have to keep…
GIBSON: You believe unprovoked.
PALIN: I do believe unprovoked and we have got to keep our eyes on Russia, under the leadership there. I think it was unfortunate. That manifestation that we saw with that invasion of Georgia shows us some steps backwards that Russia has recently taken away from the race toward a more democratic nation with democratic ideals.That’s why we have to keep an eye on Russia.
And, Charlie, you’re in Alaska. We have that very narrow maritime border between the United States, and the 49th state, Alaska, and Russia. They are our next door neighbors.We need to have a good relationship with them. They’re very, very important to us and they are our next door neighbor.
GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?
PALIN: They’re our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.
GIBSON: What insight does that give you into what they’re doing in Georgia?
PALIN: Well, I’m giving you that perspective of how small our world is and how important it is that we work with our allies to keep good relation with all of these countries, especially Russia. We will not repeat a Cold War. We must have good relationship with our allies, pressuring, also, helping us to remind Russia that it’s in their benefit, also, a mutually beneficial relationship for us all to be getting along.
(I also have another post a little further down with more on this subject).

Posted by: Erika | September 28, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm

Katie Couric and others are knowingly distorting what Palin said when they have the transcript of the interview. The media, who are supposed to be guardians of the truth, should set the record straight rather than running with this distortion for all its worth.

Posted by: Erika | September 28, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm

Who cares about Couric? Still, no one. Palin is doing just fine, and this election is hugely funny {even as the nation’s future is at risk from a Leftist educated no-nothing who threatens to team up with Pelosi/Reid/Wrangel/Wexler/Dudd/Schmucker/ana Barney’s frank}

Posted by: bluecollarbytes | September 28, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm

A citizen Vice President what a refreshing idea. Since all foreign decisions are on the latest news coming from a country and experts in the law and relations are going to be presented at briefings, what is the point of knowing the mistakes of the last few presidencies.
USA policies are not respected and everyone agrees most decisions of the past about war were flawed. Then Palin brings into the next presidency an innocent citizens views and not the MSM carpetbaggers paid for thoughts or the bought and paid for Washington politicals. What is not to like about the Govenor Palin? Maybe if she runs the 50 states well, Obama will tell her how to get the other 7 states to like her?
Cheers, rfm

Posted by: Ronald Murphy | September 28, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm

The extreme rightwingers are out tonight blowing their horns on Palin’s VP qualifications! Palin cannot even speak English fluently, she cannot tell when to use “is” or “are”, “has” or have”, etc. She seems to have problems completing sentences and really does not make too much sense. Yeah, she is gotta be good for ya extreme rightwingers….she was “exorcised” by her Pentacostal preacher to remove the “witch” in her. She is under investigation for abuse of power, she had to return tainted money AFTER it was brought to the forefront. She fires good people and hires her highschool friends who are not qualified for the government jobs. Her husband belonged to, and she supported, an outfit in Alaska that wants to secede from the United States, an outfit that CONDEMNS AMERICA!! ANY SANE PERSON WOULD CALL THIS “ANTI-AMERICAN”!! Palin and her dude have NO business being anywhere near the White House!! The Republicans, Bush, and McCain have all but destroyed our country, perhaps McCain specifically picked Palin to help him complete the job. Then The United States of America would become “The Lower 49 States of Alaska”. Isn’t Sarah part Russian?? That right there should tell you something. Would Sarah then convert the entire country to Russian rules?? McCain, the Repubs, and Sarah Palin are NOT to be trusted!! Haven’t we had enough of lies and BS in the last almost eight years?? What are you?? Suckers for punishment??

Posted by: NinaK | September 28, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm

Not only is McCain out of touch but….anybody here that advocates voting for McCain who is a member of the republican party the same party that has screwed up and ruined our great nation is either a paid blogger, delusional or stupid. I could add more but you get the picture.
Why should republicans get rewarded for screwing up America from Iraq to this financial mess? Isn’t that like rewarding CEOs with huge bonuses even when they screw up the company. Sure let’s reward the people that screwed things up. Who’s stupid enought to do that? A fool, idiot, moron, masochist, lobbyist?

Posted by: McCain/Palin = Corporations First | September 29, 2008, 1:52 am 1:52 am

“Why should republicans get rewarded for screwing up America from Iraq to this financial mess?”
This financial mess is the Repubicans’ fault because the Democrats’ responsibility isn’t talked about. According to a 9/11/03 NY Times article, “New Agency Proposed to Oversee Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae,” Pres. Bush pushed for more oversight of FM/FM back at that time:
“The plan is an acknowledgment by the administration that oversight of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — which together have issued more than $1.5 trillion in outstanding debt — is broken. A report by outside investigators in July concluded that Freddie Mac manipulated its accounting to mislead investors, and critics have said Fannie Mae does not adequately hedge against rising interest rates.”
And:
“‘These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis,’ said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. ‘The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.’” (The Boston Herald has two articles today on Barney Frank’s responsibility for the crisis, and quote him as saying, “in 2003, nobody that I knew of foresaw the crisis of subprime lending, and that is what caused this problem.”).
The article reports that the proposal was opposed by Democrats.
There are plenty of other Dem connections as well to FM/FM, such as the top campaign donation recipients being prominent Dems (according to the Hartford Courant’s “Crumbling Financial Giants Gave Generously To Dodd” – Sens. Dodd, Obama and Kerry; Kerry’s GOP opponent has called on him to return the funds) and other Dems making a ton of money off of FM/FM while the the books were being cooked (such as former Clinton officials Franklin D. Raines and Jamie Gorelick – see the informative Slate article, “Fannie Mae and the Vast Bipartisan Conspiracy” that seems to name dozens of Dems and Repubs linked to Fannie Mae).
McCain was also behind efforts in 2005 to reform FM/FM, the “Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005.”
Now Dems are taking the “democratic capitalist” position on executive compensation for those who will lead these troubled entities, giving the same arguments about having to compensate to get good people, etc.
Underneath it all, though, the Dems seem to have their hearts set on communism (see Saul Alinsky, whose proteges Obama worked for). Castro is not only not different from the president of France or the P.M. of England, but a hero. All the atrocities of communism seem to mean nothing to them. A California bill, SB 1322, sought to repeal a law against the positive teaching of communism in schools – “teaching communism with the intent to indoctrinate or to inculcate in the mind of any pupil a preference for communism.” However, Schwarzenegger just vetoed it, saying: “Many Californians have fled Communist regimes, immigrated to the United States and sought freedom in our nation because of the human rights abuses perpetuated in other parts of the world,” Schwarzenegger said in his veto message. “It is important particularly for those people that California maintains the protections of current law.” We’re ignoring China’s communism and have forgotten the cold war. I just read the story a North Korean political prisoner, “Eyes of the Tailless Animals.” It puts in perspective what communism is like. You have the same human greed and corruption, but but a permanent greedy and corrupt class at the top controls every aspect of people’s lives without any accountability at all, as they’re just “protecting” the people from greedy and corrupt capitalism, imprisoning them for their own good and forcing their opinions on them.
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Democrats have been campaigning for Obama on this crisis loudly all along and the voting-for-Obama members of the mainstream media has been all too glad to help them out. You would have never have known from the media coverage on McCain which was all negative, but last Thursday after McCain’s bold moves, he drew even with Obama in the Gallup poll (I’m sure the media knew that, though). If anything, McCain and the Republicans haven’t defended themselves enough during this crisis. The media has talked about Republican attempts to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac during the Bush administration. The NY Times article from 9/11/03, “New Agency Proposed to Oversee Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae.” The measure was opposed by Democrats. McCain co-sponsored the “Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005,” and then sternly warned about the dangers of not doing something about FM/FM in 2006, as Mr. Tapper acknowledged in a post awhile back.
I wonder, if both sides believe bipartisanship and not blame is needed right now, but one side keeps attacking for the sake of the election anyway, would it be okay for the other side to defend itself if the shoe was on the other foot and it was the horrible Republicans attacking first and the noble Democrats just defending themselves?

Posted by: Erika | September 30, 2008, 1:52 am 1:52 am

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