Palin to Meet World Leaders, Bono

I do not care how many heads of state the girl meets. She still scares the heck out of me. McCain demonstrated his inability to react in a crisis last week as well.

Palin can stare down Chavez and Ahmadinejad. Obama wants to diplome with them.

Just handshakes and personal meeting is not going to be engouh to give her wealth of foreign policy experience. They need to start her with geography lessons first and follow it up with history lessons.

Why is this news? Shouldn’t we be looking for someone for whom meeting world leaders is not an event but part of their job profile?

Palin Speaks Out About Dangers Ahmadinejad Poses

Palin on Ahmadinejad: He Must Be Stopped by the New York Sun is Governor Sarah Palin’s response as she was denied the opportunity to speak at an anti-Ahmadinejad rally in New York City.The world must awake to the threat this

All you Palin-bashers, remember, Obama’s claim to fame is giving a speech to Germans, and playing basketball with some troops. He’s running for President, right?

From:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/sarah-palin-meets-with-afghani.html
Saturday, September 20, 2008
Sarah Palin Meets with Afghan President Karzai (Transcript)

“Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin will meet next week with Afghan President Hamid Karzai in New York, on the sidelines of the opening of the U.N. General Assembly, according to Afghan officials in Washington.”–Washington Post

TRANSCRIPT:
Palin: Oh, Mr. President, it is such a pleasure to meet you, you’re the first head of state that I have had the opportunity to meet–which is more than many Vice Presidents–and I’m so glad that my first one is an Afghani.
You know, in Trig’s class there was a little Afghani? He was the child of one of the oil executives, and he was so cute, with his little turban runnin’ around, everyone just loved him, and felt for him…
Karzai: Yes.
Palin: And everyone knew that we just had to defend him and keep him free and that’s why I think that with a Palin/McCain…
Palin Aide: (looking up from clipboard) McCain/Palin.
Palin: …McCain/Palin ticket, we can make sure of that, if we have to attack Russia, even, I mean, to keep people free at home, just like we want to keep our people free. We have so much in common! I know you have the problem with the poppies, and I understand so well, Mr. Karzai, because we have the same problem with the crystal meth in Wasilla? And I said “Look, we’ve got to shake this up!” and then that’s just what I said, I said ‘Look, let’s just see what we have in common with these guys!” And that’s just what you could do with the Taliban, Mr. Karzai. They’ve already so moral, and they want people to live by the straight and narrow, and they’ve got the newspapers sayin’ and the schools doin’ lots of the right things. They just need to get some of the right ideas, and pray to the right Lord. And, if they don’t understand, we still have the weapons left over from Iraq, and then we can’t blink, we can’t blink, can we, Mr. Karzai?
Karzai: (Looks at Palin silently without moving his head. Pauses.). Blink?
Palin: Right. The thing is, we just have to hit the ground runnin’, Mr. Karzai. That’s what I do. A few weeks ago I didn’t even know what a Vice President does</i?! That's why I put a clock on my wall–do you have the same clocks as we do in Afghanistan? With the twelve numbers? (points in air to numbers on air clock)–Anyway, I said "I'm gonna measure just how much time I have left here" and that's what you could do, I think, with the war, Mr. Karzai, is to put up a clock so you know just how much time you have left until you finish it. I tell you, Mr. Karzai, it’s such a motivating influence on my staff, the good ones, anyway, they know what they’re supposed to finish and when, they hear me sayin’ “Look at the clock, people, look at the clock, and know what you have left to finish…”
Karzai: Yes.
Palin: And so I said to my husband, Todd–I call him the “First Dude”–Do you have that word ‘Dude’ here in Afghanistan?–maybe it’s like “Khan” or “Emir” or somethin’?–I said to him, ‘Todd, we have to take a look at what’s happenin’ in Afghanistan–before McCain called or any other thing happened–’ cause I saw that Russia was right across from us, and then right next to that you have all the ‘Stans–(counts cross fingers) Kyrgyzstan, oh, what’s the others?–well, you are aware of them, of course, Mr. Karzai (laughs)…
Karzai: (Nods)
Palin: And if we don’t let other people know of what I’m aware of then the world won’t change, Mr. Karzai. I know we have the same goals even if we don’t have the same God yet…(aide touches Palin on shoulder, whispers). ‘Even’, not ‘yet’, I meant ‘same God even, Mr. Karzai, and my point is, we can’t let others stop our choice, which is freedom for those who deserve it, and that’s why I know a Palin/McCain…
Palin Aide: (reaching over to touch shoulder)
Palin: Stop! (brushing aide’s hand off)…McCain/Palin ticket will do just what you want, Mr. Karzai…
Second Palin Aide Approaches: It’s time for your next appointment, Gov. Palin.
Palin: It was so good meeting you, President Karzai, and all of your other people, it was so good meeting you too! Shalom! (waves, exits).
Karzai: (to his aide, in Pashto): She makes the last one look like the Grand Mufti.
Cite:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/sarah-palin-meets-with-afghani.html

I would rather have my VP a little lacking in the foreign affairs dept than have my president seriously lacking in the foreign affairs dept.

McCain/Palin=A knee jerk reactionary & His idiot Bimbo who knows zilch.

Wong…Palin is a joke. She cannot even handle her own internal investigation without McCain sending in “troops” to stop the process. PLEASE….THIS WOMEN IS A DISGRACE!!!

Come on Repub’s tell us again about that bridge she claims she told Congress “No thanks if we want a bridge we will build it ourselves, but thanks for the millions were going to keep them”. Lets not mention the mess she left her town in as Mayor she had a sports complex built only she forgot one big item. She forgot you need clear title to the land you build it on. Not smart the town of Wasill is still in litigation for that major blunder by Palin, now how big a blunder do you want that idiot to make in Washington???? Pushing the wrong button in Washington could start a nuclear war…. I think she needs to just go home and screw up Alkaska more.

Gee Ann you are a died in the wool Repub aren’t you they could steal you blind and (which they have, or mabey you didn’t notice) you still follow like a sheep to the slaughter house.

This election is going to be the litmus test for race relations in this country and exactly how far we have come. It is just ridiculous the overwhelming support McCain an Palin gets in light of their gross failures and mistakes… Obama is held to a much higher standard than others only because he is black.. mind you… he is half white and was raised by TWO white women. This country should be ashamed at the hypocrisy of this election… Obama who is not perfect is the obvious choice… The republicans are relying heavily on the following to win:
1) Racism of the uneducated and misinformed and those who are just downright biggoted and racist.
2) Lies… McCane and Palin have showed more than anyone else that they are prepared to lie to win… if they win… they will fit right into Washington.. Remember THERE ARE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION.. how quick we forget
3) Bully the Media. Could you imagine what the Repubs and MSM would have done if Obama chose a Palin.. Simply.. His campaign would be over. Imagine NO questions for Palin to this date… and the media is letting them get away with it.
4) Connections… Do you people really think the wealthy in this country are going to sit down and allow Obama to come in and raise their taxes.. The status quo are always gonna want every penny… The republicans represent the wealthiest 2% of this country who do not give a hoot about the poor or shrinking middle class
5) Hypocrisy.. Could you imagine if Obama had a pregnant teenager with her black lover on stage what the republicans would say… Game Over…
I am saddened and trust that right thinking people would vote their conscience and hearts for Hope and Change… Obama represents the future… Young People, ROCK the vote and lets change America for the better…

SAM…you need a reality check…without someone who understands the economy there won’t be any country to look after the terrorists. Maybe you don’t understand how important this mess in Wall Street is right now? McCain thinks it is all Oki Doki…yezzzz

McCain scares me, but Palin scares me more. Can you imagine this women a heart beat away from being president? Wow, I nver thought I would live to see our country so low…

Hey diva
You wrote, “Washington bureaucrats and there double talk.”
I guess grammer and spelling must have been too difficult for you…leave the politics to the rest of us.

It’s like a college study abroad program.

Wanda.. In your case… YOU have proven that “common sense” is NOT very common.

MElsey – Diva is one of the children who got left behind in Bush’s education plans.

= I guess grammer and spelling must have been too difficult foryou…=
Grammer! what’s the hell going on? LOL.

Wanda great to see you like RED as in ink. Lest you forget, McCain origionally voted for the deregulation that started this mess years ago.

The tradition is after the meeting our leaders hold a joint press conference.
We as American votors will all be looking forward to what was talked about

Helpful Information for Sarah Palin to use in her Visits with Foreign Leaders:
1. People in most countries do not hunt and kill moose.
2. Only from Alaska can one see Russia. No other US states can see Russia from their land.
3. Do not attempt to convert President Karzai to Christianity. He will not like that. However, you might mention your friend, the Kenyan Witch Hunter that you credit for your becoming Governor.
4. Do not use the word “redneck” among diplomats. They may misconstrue what you are saying.
5. Do not offer President Karzai any of your children’s leftover cocaine or other drugs. Karzai has plenty of heroin available back home.
6. Afghanistan is a country in Asia. Alaska is a state, not a country, although we understand you and Todd want to make it its own country.
7. Avoid Alaskan “redneck” and slang words like “Howdy,” “Y’all” and “Miss Alaska Beauty Pageant.” They translate to swear words in other languages.

McCain = DISHONORABLE; Palin = SCARY!!!

In reply to JB and militarymom: I hate to disappoint you guys but I’m not a Republican – but neither am I a Democrat. I would have voted for JFK if I’d been old enough. I’m sorry to say that I did vote for Carter. I voted for Reagan and I voted for Clinton. If anybody but that whiney Al Gore had been running I would have voted Democrat then. I vote for who I think is the best for this country – and
Jobama is just not it in this election.

Wanda, I’m with you, seen to many educated people who have trouble tying their shoes, let alone make an intelligent decision. Common sense is way more valuable to me than any degree. You can have all the degrees in the world and that still doesn’t make you smart or intelligent.

The mere fact that Palin is representing the lower 48 in any way shape or form to the international community is disgusting and insulting! She needs to go back to the backwards thinking, lack of higher education, highest rape/incest levels in the US, crystal meth capital state of Alaska!!

Dear Jenny,
“I do not care how many heads of state the girl meets. She still scares the heck out of me. McCain demonstrated his inability to react in a crisis last week as well.”
Well, your post establishes two things:
1. You, and your good-time Obamaton buddies, have a low threshold when it comes to being “scared.” I’ll bet you faint when you see a mouse too. Here’s what’s really scary: a backbenching senator, with only 143 working days on the job, who’s already written two autobiographies, declared lengthy periods of his life “off limits,” and thinks there’s “57 states,” believing he’s actually ready to be President.
2. You’ve obviously overlooked the fact that Barack Obama was (and is) part of the recent Wall Street problem. Dare I mention how much money he got from places like Lehman Brothers? McCain was warning about this “crisis” at least as far back as 2005, but who do you suppose helped shoot down the corrective legislation he proposed?
Hmmmmmmmm?

Wanda… The world is changing around us.. Do you care about the next generation… Do you care about where we are in the world view… Do you understand that it takes INTELLECT and WISDOM and JUDGEMENT to run a country… Do NOT confuse yourself… Obama knows his limitations which is why he has NOT surrounded himself with “YES” men… Republicans win at all costs is exactly the proof that they are LIARS… The are relying on you to continue Bush’s legacy… How you voted in the past does not matter… what matters is that you set aside personal bias and TRY to be Objective on the facts before you… if you do that… then you will understand why Obama is the only choice… I do not know what the future holds… but I know I need a THINKER in the white house… the days of “my gut” must be tempered with inclusion… Everyone has a voice… we must take our country back and stop believing the BS the republicans are shoving down out throats. Your bias towards Obama is not from facts.. its from your own personal prejudice… Once McCane and Palin repeal Roe vs Wade, all the women raped or been victims of incest, I hope you will be able to help… as for gay rights… out the door… and remember the economy… who cares about that… oh and the brave men and women dying in Iraq… whats a couple thousand more dead… Country FIRST!!!!!

the question is;
when will Palin meet with USA leaders, Including Bush and have a direct unscripted dialog with the American people? In the best free society on earth, why is that asking too much?

@HeadofState:
“A few days ago, she was ready to invade Russia (which she could see from her border).”
Actually, that is a LIE. 90% of Sarah Palin’s remarks about establishing good relations with Russia were “edited out” by ABCNews in an attempt to make her look extreme.
If the same had been done to Obama, I am sure we could have counted on a profound reaction from the left.

Please tell me what Obama has done in his life that we should vote for him???

Things that make you say hmmmm…
Bono, a celebrity, understands more about world affairs than our potential VP.

reddog0216,
The democrats have a very slim majority in both houses and a Republican President in office. Does it really need explaining?

MarkJ:
1.McCain thought Putin was President of Germany. I dont care how little you know about foreign policy, but Christs sake most ppl know who Putin is!
2.McCain boasts he’s been the most deregulating senator there ever was. He’s part of the problem! He was against bail-outs before he was for it. Sound familiar? Flip-flop queen Palin is in good company; stupid minds think alike.

Next tuesday Palin will be ready for the job. Never mind her lies and her ignorance on domestic and foreign relations issues; once she has looked Bono in the eyes through equally cool designer glasses, she will be fired up and ready to go.

A majority is a majority why did they block what McCain tried to do with fannie and freddie were they to busy line ther pockets????

Great, Ahmadinejad must be stopped. Stopped from what Palin? Pakistan, our “Ally” who just shot at us has nukes. Are you gonna “Stop” them too. How bout north Korea? Are you gonna stop them too? Oh wait, we’ll be too busy stopping Russia. Just as soon as we get done “Stopping” Iraq I think I know what Palins foriegn policy is now. Step 1) Learn the name of a foriegn leader. Step 2) Vow to “Stop” them.
Ms. Palin… who is going to stop them? We have no military, no international friends and no friggin money!

Mark – If you count the fifty states AND territories there are 57. The man was tired and at the end of a long campaign swing. Give him a break. He still knows the difference between Atlanta and what ever the capitol of Georgia is.
Hey we are all effected by this Wall Street mess. I can asssure you that Obama may have gotten help from Lehman Bros. But McCain did as well and has I am sure over the last 20 years or more. Lest we forget little Cindy Lou and ALL of her investments. Also McCain fought for and voted for the deregulation that started all this mess.

You know…samhiguchi, Bill Mitchell et al… Your thinking is why Americans die in mindless wars… You elect idiots to the white house who have “common sense” and the rest of the country has to suffer… Another elction cycle, and because Obama is Black, you choosing another pair of idiots to go send more Americans to die… sad.. really sad… the ecnonomy is down the crapper and yet we wanna vote McCane… we are truly gluttons for punishment… and the “common sense” people of this great nation will vote another pair of idiots into the white house for more pain… Thanks for your bigotry and hate… we deserve what we get…

I completely understand how it works .I still dont understand why they blocked McCain in what he tried to do with fannie and freddie if they were for fixxing a problem with the regulation

samhiguchi, what part of graduating Maga Cum Laude don’t you understand??? It translates “graduated with highest honors” means TOP OF CLASS idiot.

= Please tell me what Obama has done in his life that we should vote for him? =
No sweat,my brother. After adding Georgia and Russia to the 50 states, OB will figure out what will be the next 5 states of the great USA with the help of his 300 advisors. He is confused which states: USA of America or 57 states of World Organzation of lslamic Conference.

No jb McCain graduated 894 of 899. 5th from the bottom

tragic that sarah palin is meeting with foreign leaders before meeting with the press to answer questions regarding her experience, values and solutions to America’s issues. isn’t she running for VP of America? smells like a marketing campaign to me.

Anti – Obviously you did not read an earlier post. I will put it in all caps so you can see it. THERE ARE 57 STATES AND TERRITORIES. (NO I CANNOT NAME ALL OF THEM. TERRITORIES NOT STATES). I think that the man was tired and made a gaffe. You know what those are don’t you? It is what McCain says every time he opens his mouth. MOVE ON!

Well if Obama has nothing to hide, then where are his transcripts?????????? Plain and simple, where are they, why won’t he release them to the public? What part of that don’t you understand?!
JB, give it up, I’m one of the idiots who voted for Obama in the Senate….your racist crap is REALLY getting old!

Palin will listen and learn. The shallow one just posed for photo-ops and tried to make a deal with the Iraqi leadership to defer America’s exit until he was president so he could get credit.
What a bad choice he is!

And whatever Palin may lack in foreign policy experience, she makes up for with EXECUTIVE experience, the actual day-to-day running of a government, which is experience NONE of the other three candidates possess.
And what tremendous foreign policy experience does Obama, the PRESIDENTIAL candidate, have?
Oh, I forgot, he made a speech in Germany, and attempted to have troop withdrawals from Iraq stalled until after the election.
Silly me….

FYI
What did Obama do. He jsut met these leaders for 15 minutes and running for President. She is running for only VP.
She ran City /State.
What did Obama ran ( Rezko/Michele/Wright)
Mccain’08

jenny-Palin Why are we talikng about palin when she will release her tax returns she has to The facts are that people believe that obama and biden are so for the people why have they not done more for the people ?? They talk the talk but do not walk the walk!

samyouguchiistoohigh damn your thick as sh*t aren’t you???? As well as pure dumb top of class will require straigth A’s dip.

Artic Princess is as dumb as they come cute face nice butt thats what McCain saw and you can tell he wants her bad.

reddog,
are you serious? Biden takes public transit to work. you can’t walk the walk any more than that, your arguments are thin. McCain has 13 cars, Obama 1. pick a new line of debate.

reddog – same can be said for McCain. Palin was brought up because Biden was brought up.

melsey, some of the most educated people don’t know there a$$ from a hole in the ground. So a master’s degree only tells me one thing about you, you are in a lot of debt.

Here is the short and simple answer to those on the fence.Lets assume all the blame for the nations problems is from the Clinton admin. Does it take eight years to right the ship? I am not a straight party voter, but I can not think of one good thing that has happened over the past eight years. I can sure remeber a lot of embarrassing ones though.Thank goodness George W is going to be gone know matter what!!

SandyB,
The facts can get in the way. You asked for experience, but it doesn’t count now. You’ll vote for McCain just like you probably voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004.
Obama has shown the temperament, intellect, and discipline that could really help our country.

Um, who’s the “celebrity” candidate now?

I heard that Obama passed a meeting like this one up because his speech writer was on vacation that week and that personal teleprompters weren’t allowed in the meeting area.

Sarah Palin meeting world leaders isn’t going to change the fact that dear Sarah thinks she is above the law, wants to ban books she doesn’t like, has fouled her own nest, has no use for environmental concerns, wants creationism taught in the schools, and is a member of an extreme religion, among just a few of her negatives. McCain’s choice of her says everything about his judgment and character!!!

Loves no country you heard wrong because Obama writes his own speeches.

Judge is the idiot, the idiot is the Judge

We Americans must stand together in this time of great need for the United States of American. We must come to realize that Obama is nothing more than an egotistical harmful person to America is. Taxing the rich and business is a smoke screen used by Obama to tax all Americans with hidden taxes. Obama will be a puppet to his campaign contributors at the cost of taxing all Americans. There is no free ride.
Private interest groups and tax hungry government officials feared seventy-three old President Reagan as a governor of California and later as President of America. Why? They all knew that President Reagan was his own man. John McCain is his own man. The man is John McCain.
Sarah Palin is her own woman. Many are making disgusting comments about Sarah Palin out of fear and envy. The catty women would love to have the opportunity presented to Sarah Palin, but they know in their own hearts it will never happen.
News commentators pick at everything about Sarah Palin because she has what they cannot tolerate in a woman. Sarah has the intellect to be a mayor, a governor, a vice-president and a president of our great nation. Some men fear that Sarah Palin could rise to the highest office and be President of the United States of America. Obama does not have executive experience. Sarah Palin has executive experience.
The ABC News Panel says that it fears John McCain. These weak men fear John McCain and Sarah Palin. These weaklings have forgotten the powers of congress to control a president. The ABC News Panel’s true fears are that a woman may become the President of the United States of America. It does not matter who she is or what her qualifications are they fear a woman. These weaklings of men live in fear that a woman will receive the powers of the President of the United States of America. What boyish sissies the ABC News Panel is.
Any woman that does not vote for Sarah Palin votes against herself. Women must band together and know that a vote for Sarah Palin is a vote for you.
News commentators and writers want you to believe Sarah Palin is not the person for Vice-President. There is fear in their words that Sarah Palin will become the next president of the United States of American. There are men that cannot tolerate the thought of women in high responsible positions. The fear is not on Sarah Palin’s true qualifications, but based only on that she is a woman.
John McCain does not fear women. Obama has less women working in his office. John McCain has more women workers on staff. Obama women workers earn much less than then the men on his staff do. John McCain women workers earn more than the men on his staff do.
I can sense the fear that a woman could actually become president of the United States of America. I am like John McCain and it does not matter to me the sex of the person. As vice-president or president, Sarah Palin can do it for American.
It better to back a woman and not the little no nothing boys that runs against her.
For those Obama voters click here:
http://townhall.com/Columnists/KevinMcCullough/2006/07/23/bamboozled_obamas_big_black_lie
McCain is the man. The man is McCain.

sandy, you must not realize that mccain has the highest rate of absenteeism for any senator this year–and has had some of the highest over time for any sitting senator. that means MCCAIN DOESN’T SHOW UP TO VOTE. so, what were you saying about how candidates should do work, rather than campaigning?

diva: “her true self”… I love it. You must not have been paying much attention to the news this past few weeks. I believe she has been vented on how many lies she can tell in a day… “her true self.” uhmmmm.

Everyone keeps going on about experience.
Well…
The CEOs of AIG and Lehmann brothers had a century of experience between them.
They sank their companies, are running off with multi-million dollar golden parachutes, and stuck taxpayers with the bill.
—-
Experience? I’ll take good judgment over experience in these changing times.
Anyone who claims “decades of experience” in these radically changing times is precisely the wrong person to lead this country.
They have decades of the wrong experience.
We need someone who is sober, with fresh ideas.
WE need new leadership.

I truly believe that if you vote McCain you are and have had a good past 8 years, it is the only excuse I can find for you people. What a huge mistake it would be for us to put this man in office.

I love how all you Obama supporters claim that Palin is “empty-headed,” and “stupid” and “inexperienced.”
What has Senator Obama ever done that’s worthy of being president? Graduating from Harvard Law (big whoop!) Voting “present” in the Illinois legislature? Running for president for 4 years?
When has Obama ever had to make a difficult decision? Whether to choose a Wall street job or be a “community organizer?” To vote “present?” To give a speech? Wow. That’s tough. Too bad they don’t give you Medals of Honor for that kind of bravery!
Obama has NO accomplishments and no resume. Everyone knows it.
And yet, all Democrats can do is make snarky comments about Sarah Palin, the next VP.

Nope,ronnieraygun. It’s correct…and actually, he just get his speeches from Deval Patrick’s old stuff.

@dl & SandyB get your facts straight before spewing lies that have been proven wrong.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/undermining-mcc.html
I trust Bono to see through the bs of the meeting.

any one care to read for themselves without the media http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bills_sponsored_by_Barack_Obama_in_the_United_States_

The more things change the more they stay the same. Palin is better than what you will find at
http://townhall.com/Columnists/KevinMcCullough/2006/07/23/bamboozled_obamas_big_black_lie

S Adams, since you put so much faith in Greenspan, I assume that you are not voting for McCain, since Greenspan said his tax cuts would be devastating to the economy.
Also, I don’t know what you’re looking at, but at the end of 2006, Greenspan told Congress: “There is a good chance of coming out of this in good shape, but average housing prices are likely to be down this year relative to 2005. I don’t know, but I think the worst of this may well be over,” (MSNBC.com, 10/9/06).

WHO CARES WHO SHE MEETS SHE IS NOT GOING TO BE VP ANYWAY GO OBAMA

lets face it she went to 5 colleges in 6 years, i dont care how much she crams for this exam, she gets a big fat F

We should all be so lucky to get Pre- on the job training. They’re gong to keep prepping her until she gets it right!
Unfortunately it will be at the expense of the American people if she and the old Mccain get elected.

“lets face it she went to 5 colleges in 6 years, i dont care how much she crams for this exam, she gets a big fat F”
And Barry was a drug abuser while he was in college.

I feel really bad for people with blinders on I really hope for all of our sake that whoever gets in can reach across the aslie and work together to make change actually happen

Mack, you are evidence that all McCain has to run on anymore is smears, lies, and one-liners. He has nothing to offer the country, so he runs on distractions and changing the subject.

What did Chuck Hagel say again? Oh yeah, Palin is not qualified and she insults the American people. http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-trailhagel19-2008sep19,0,5108510.story

Bono is such a philanthropist. Why make him suffer so?

Omen, there’s alot of Republican’s out here that will partially agree with you on that point. But many Democrats seem to forget that George W. Bush isn’t running for a third term.

Loves this country, then why not talk about what you think McCain will do that will make such a big difference and will mark such a significant departure from Bush’s policies?

Mack, please learn how to use facts, not lies. Hagel has not endorsed either candidate.

ethel08–Where have you been? Drudgereport has been slammed for being in Obama’s pocket. He has reported more positive about Obama than McCain this election. Oh, wait I forgot you liberals only read Huffington Report and Daily Kos, no wonder you misguided fools are voting for the puppet of the Democratic party, Barack Hussein Muhammad Obama.

“Mack, please learn how to use facts, not lies. Hagel has not endorsed either candidate.”
Just like CNN and MSNBC have not endorsed a candidate.

So, Mack, you think Colin Powell has endorsed Obama to–merely by not supporting McCain???
This is more of that “for us or against us” crap.

Palin will gain considerable experience by meeting with the foreign leaders. Her Fox interviews were really good, she has the special capacity to connect with people. When she was asked about the army of lawyers that are in Alaska digging up dirt on her, her answer was: well I know this is all about, I just hope they spend lots of money there and help with our local economy. I like that answer. Give her a chance to make a case for herself, and let her mature. I believe at the end, she will be a great asset for the McCain campaign. I am very confident that McCain will win.

McCain and his policies are similar enough to George W. to make me think it would be the same. I see a lot of changes in McCain over the past few days to make me think he is changing. But it also makes me think he is changing because he has been wrong for the past 26 years. He seems to be changing because he wants to get elected. America! We can believe in that kind of change if we want to but we will be the fools.

OK, now anyone who talks to a campaign is a supporter? That means that the head of the Concord Coalition is endorsing both candidates.

Posted by: m@cchiavelli | Sep 22, 2008 12:27:58 PM
What are you talking about?

Here’s an article from 2007 that talks about Obama’s many controversial votes in the state senate. I have no idea if this is what you mean by a full report:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/01/17/politics/main2369157.shtml

Christine, you forget that recently McCain hardly has a voting record. He has the highest rate of absenteeism of any senator this year, and among the highest for the past several years.
The Republicans get all in a froth about the “present” vote–which like, it or not, is a long tradition in Illinois politics for many reasons–and ignore the fact that their guy DOES NOT EVEN SHOW UP TO VOTE AT ALL. Nope, not even for the veterans bill.

m@cchiavelli,
Are you saying that Obama just voting with his party because he knew the proposal would be voted down anyway? So now Congress votes collectively and do not have an original thought of their own? What the h*ll are they there for?
I’ll tell you what would help Americans right now is to get rid of Pelosi, Barney Frank Reid, Obama and the other most liberal senators. Since 2005 when they took over Congress our economy has been doing a nose dive.

“Oh please spare me the Republican wingnut talking points. ”
And then you go ahead and list the left wing nut talking points for our amusement.

that’s exatly right ethel08. They try and use it as a talking point. McCain hasn’t been the same since 2000. The Republican brand shaped him over so that way they could get the votes of the more “conservative” base. That’s why they chose Palin for him. They weren’t getting behind him well enough. They didn’t trust him, and I really think he doesn’t like Huckabee well enough after the primaries to have picked him to sure up the vote.

Palin is what this country needs.
Think a woman can’t do it…….think again. She will surprise everyone, because she will go to work instead of thinking how great it is to make history

I don’t like U2 anymore anyway.

The elitist obamabots are still charging prejudice and racism.
Look. Republicans will not vote for Obama because he is an unreconstructed tax-and-spend liberal. I personally believe that’s what he wants us to think he is because the reality is vastly worse, but that’s just me.
As far as Republicans are concerned, his skin color has nothing to do with it. I can virtually guarantee that the first black president will be Republican.
Obama’s biggest problem is with the liberal mindset that the oppressed must be rescued – by them. That comes from an unadmitted, maybe even unrecognized, but deeply felt sense of superiority -moral and intellectual – as is so clearly illustrated by the comments above.
Obama’s big problem is that so many of his “supporters”, in their heart of hearts, view him just as Biden himself described him -a “clean, articulate black man” and will never pull the lever in the privacy of the booth.

Yes, Palin can lead our national government to even more deficit–just like she led her small town to a $20 million deficit. This is certainly what our country needs–bigger deficits for years to come.

I don’t care about Sarah Palin’s lack of foreign leader experience. I DO CARE that she is patriotic, proud of our military, and Palin accepts all the pressure been placed upon her to perform. Palin knows she has to earn the world’s respect and she is up to the challenge. Palin is a true AMERICAN, who will represent our great nation humbly. I find that comforting and refreshing. I think she is a great VP pick.

After the US has forced the world to put up with an ignorant and bullyish cowboy for almost eight years, it will be interesting to see how the world is going to react to this equally ignorant pit bull in lipstick.

Think about this!
It could happen!!!
Much is made of McCain’s age. Has anyone brought up the fact that Obama smokes and both of his parents died at an early age. Plus Biden has had two brain aneurysms which could have killed him. If they both died while in office; that would leave Nancy Pelosi as president. I can’t think of a better reason to vote for McCain & Palin.

m@cchiavelli
Thanks for the illustration of intellectual superiority and elitism
You’re a real “Prince” of a guy

JRinLA, what your analysis fails to recognize is, well, the truth that McCain’s plan has absolutely no way to address the deficit.
Americans are finally looking deeper into the old cliche that Republicans are for smaller government and fiscal conservatism. Republicans have repeatedly grown the government over the past 30 years, and they have recently gotten our deficit to approach $10 trillion.
In 2001 McCain voted against the Bush tax cuts because he thought they hurt the middle class in order to benefit the rich. He also claimed it was wrong to give massive tax cuts during a time of war. He knew the cuts would drive up the deficit. Now, those same tax cuts are the heart of his economic policy. He is even promising more than Bush did. Even Greenspan says we can’t afford such cuts right now.
So, sorry, but after watching our deficit balloon and reading McCain’s plan, which fails to address it, I have no confidence that he is any kind of fiscal conservative. These are the same scare tactics used against Bill Clinton, whom the right wing claimed was a far left, tax and spend liberal, and he ended up shrinking government and balancing the budget. Much of the Clinton financial team are currently advising Obama. He’s also added Warren Buffet and Paul O’Neill.
Who is on McCain’s again?

Posted by: S Adams | Sep 22, 2008 12:39:50 PM
Posted by: JRinLA | Sep 22, 2008 12:35:56 PM
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Let me make it REALLY REALLY simple for you…
If Obama voted “present” on a piece of legislation, and the legislation passed – that means he voted “YES” (but with reservations)
If Obama voted “present” on a piece of legislation, and the legislation failed to pass – that means he voted “NO” (but with reservations).
I have no idea if he was voting with or against the Democratic party on these votes.
You’d have go go back over the votes and determine which party favored them, which party opposed them, which party got what they wanted, and whose side Obama was on.

” You and I KNOW that if he was white… this election would be over…”
Yeah, if it was Kerry or Gore running…oh wait

The foreign leaders will be asking themselves, if Johnny McSame has lost his mind by picking this airhead as his running mate. Meanwhile, Vladimir Putin and his Chinese counterparts will be licking their lips at the thought of this airhead assuming the Presidency of the United States should Johnny pass away (which is highly probable). God help us all, if this should come to pass. Obama/Biden 2008!!!

If Obama was white.. this election would be over… If Obama’s daughter was pregnant with her black lover on stage.. this election would be over… If Obama had LIED just like McCaine… This election would be over… If Obama chose a Palin for VP… this election would be over… If Obama said a quarter of the gaffes, mis-statements and error that came from Mccane, this election would be over… If Obama sunk into the GUTTER like McCane.. this election would be over… If only Obama had white skin… He would win this presidency…

We should vote for McCain & Palin because they practice Christian principles and are god-fearing.

Posted by: JRinLA | Sep 22, 2008 1:02:54 PM
m@cchiavelli
Thanks for the illustration of intellectual superiority and elitism
You’re a real “Prince” of a guy

Obama has more years of experience as an elected public official than Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, Rudy Giuliani, Fred Thompson or Mitt Romney, or that he has more foreign policy experience than four out of the last five presidents had when they were elected.

Palin became mayor of small town Wasilla that did not even have a police station. As mayor she brought in commerce, i.e. Wal-mart, Home depot, etc, (stores big cities take for granted). Wasilla’s population rose and she had a police station built and hired police officers. She built the sports complex that the community voted for and that increased revenues for Wasilla.
Someone commented that Palin increased sales tax, even on food. Alaska let’s the individual cities decide whether or not to tax food. In case you didn’t know, Alaska is the only state that does not collect state sales tax or levy individual income tax on personal income. Alaska also sends out petroleum revenue checks to their citizens.

JRinLA … I am very objective because I refused to support Jackson, Sharpton or to a lesser extent.. Clarence Thomas… My point is this… Being a black intellectual makes you biggots uncomfortable because you are NOT accustomed to someone of color transcending race… His mother is as white as you… Black entertainers, athletes or convicts is easy to stomach and accept… but a black who is able to shine because of his mind and the CONTENT OF HIS CHARACTER… OMG.. How dare we support someone like dat… MCane is living the good life with his 9 houses and 13 cars… you dont care about anyone but yourselves… the economy in the crapper, soldiers STILL dying for Weapons of Mass Destruction… You people who support the blind republican party are simply not able to think beyond your prejudice or biggotry… I am voting for HOPE and CHANGE… It’s time to turn the page…

After reading these blogs, all I can say is:
Stop the Hate.

“Being a black intellectual makes you biggots uncomfortable because you are NOT accustomed to someone of color transcending race…”
Who cares? It’s so selfish to believe that everything boils done to race. It seems that the only group that is mostly voting on race are those that identity themselves as African Americans.

and, Ethel08, the crisis started because Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, both GSE’as you note, were overleveraged. They also “cooked the books” to balance their accounts.
The Bush administration and Republicans in Congress, McCain included, tried to place limits on the GSEs’ risky investments, but their efforts were successfully resisted by most Democrats – including Obama.
And, it just so happens that Obama received the second largest contributions EVER from Fannie and Freddie (behind Chris Dodd). And Obama has only been in the Senate for 3 1/2 years! Now THERE’S AN ACCOMPLISHMENT.
That’s the real story here. Obama and the Democrats were bought and paid for.

Sorry, jb,
go look in the mirror for the bigots.
Republicans gave the world the first and second black Secretary of State and this administration has by far the most diverse cabinet ever. The first black president will be a republican. Maybe Michael Steele.
Heck, Maybe Condi.
Mccain has hinted about going only one term. I’ve always thought:
PALIN/JINDAL ’12
But maybe:
PALIN/RICE ’12
That’d be historic, eh?
And Republicans would vote character, not color.

Tom, actually you are the one putting your fingers in your ears. You make assertions and then never back them up. First, you claim Obama’s done nothing. Then, when presented with a list of legislation, you respond, “Oh, ok, well *that* legislation doesn’t count. Because I said so.”
This is what you are now doing when you assert, without evidence, that all economists agree with McCain. Here is an article from the WSJ editorial board, which doesn’t:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122204078161261183.html?mod=special_page_campaign2008_mostpop
Don’t forget that the SEC, this week, just blamed short-sellers too.
There is plenty of blame to go around here. The bottom line is that we would still be bailing out Fannie and Freddie, even if McCain’s legislation would have passed. They simply hold too many of America’s mortgages to let them fail.

Tom: You can cover your lying eyes to and pretend Davis “the head of McCain’s campaign” didn’t make 2 million working to PREVENT regulation on Fannie and Freddie.

Tom, so you disagree with McCain’s assessment on 60 Minutes last night that the Bush administration “failed” to do anything significant in relation to Freddie and Fannie?

FACT CHECK TIME:
Fact Check: Did Obama ‘profit’ from Fannie and Freddie?
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/19/fact-check-did-obama-profit-from-fannie-and-freddie/

s Adams:
Young niccolo is simply convinced of his intellectual greatness, and our lack thereof.

Ethel08 -
The Bush administration clearly did not work hard enough to overcome the cronyism, corruption and influence peddling that lead Obama to vote against Senate Resolution 91 in 2005, which would have prevented this whole mess.
Oh, and 1 of the 3 co-sponsors of that measure? John McCain.
So, Ethel08, you’re still going to defend Obama for blocking efforts to reform Freddie and Fannie in 2005 and receiving $125,000 in contributions from them in less than 3 1/2 years?

JRinLA… I agree.. republicans vote character… Carl Rove helped define your parties’ moral compass and then we got 8 years of Bush. Vote McCane because “character” counts… His character is beyond reproach… Gluttons for Punishment… That’s what you republicans are… as for the token Blacks you have quoted… that’s funny…

ANCHORAGE, Alaska (CNN) — Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s hometown required women to pay for their own rape examinations while she was mayor, a practice her police chief fought to keep as late as 2000.
A former Alaskan lawmaker says it seems unlikely that Gov. Sarah Palin was unaware of Wasilla’s policy.
Former state Rep. Eric Croft, a Democrat, sponsored a state law requiring cities to provide the examinations free of charge to victims. He said the only ongoing resistance he met was from Wasilla, where Palin was mayor from 1996 to 2002.

Tom, McCain’s legislation would not have changed the fundamental situation about subprime lending, and it would not have changed the amount of mortgages that Fannie and Freddie were involved in. His statements came only after a huge report was issued about the accounting problems there, and he only addressed the accounting problems. He seemed to show no interest in the other significant problems within the housing sector. Had McCain’s legislation passed, the crisis still would have occurred because of the number of mortgages Fannie and Freddie were involved in, and we would still be bailing them out.
In addition, the Republicans controlled Congress for approximately a dozen years, from 1994-2006, and for six of those years, they had a member of their own party in the White House. The subprime situation and accounting scandals across all industries were ongoing then. Yet, they did nothing about them. I have no problem admitting that Democrats share in the blame of Fannie and Freddie growing to the size they expanded to, but they have only been in charge for two years and with a scant majority in the Senate. Why is it so hard for you to admit that Republicans also share that blame–including people on McCain’s staff today? In addition, there is NO PROOF that this legislation would have averted the current crisis; virtually zero economists believe this.
Finally, Obama was not a part of the Senate Banking Committee that stopped the legislation and neither were any of his advisers.

This is from Bloomberg.com: Tellingly, three former SEC chairmen, a Democrat, Arthur Levitt, and two Republicans, David Ruder and Bill Donaldson, have endorsed Obama. Levitt is a board member of Bloomberg LP, the parent company of Bloomberg News.
Donaldson, who was tapped by Bush to head the SEC, says Obama called him last year about the financial-regulatory problems. He has never heard from McCain.
“Obama has been talking about the need for better financial regulation well before this crisis hit and has done some real thinking about it,” says Donaldson, a lifelong Republican. “McCain comes across as someone who suddenly realized changes have to be made.”

Yeah, I’m having lunch with an accountant, dinner with a doctor and checking in with my lawyer tomorrow. So, I will be totally qualified as an accountant, doctor and lawyer. Get a life McSame/McPalin, even the ability to see Russian from your window does not place you on par with Condi Rice. The last week has shown that McSame is losing his marbles with his “garbles” regarding the economy. Depending on McPalin to help him out is akin to asking the geeko on Geico to help out! GW would seem line Einstein compared to these two Mc characters. Therefore, it is inconceivable why any of us would like to bring more damage to ourselves by supporting them. It’s time to say NO to McSame/McPalin, who are “fundamentally” more dangerous than anyone realize.

Linda -
You can spout whatever you want about Rick Davis, who is McCain’s campaign manager, and Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Davis isn’t on the ballot, is he?
The point is McCain sponsored legislation (S190) in 2005 to deal with the growing Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac problem. Did Rick Davis or any other lobbyist influence McCain’s decision? Clearly not.
Obama, on the other hand, received $125,000 in campaign contributions from Freddie/Fannie PAC’s and employees, and blocked S190 from being passed.
And, here we are today dealing with the mess. Thanks, Senator Obama!
Those are the facts. You may not like them, but there they are.

CAUTION , AMERICAN COULD BE GIVING 50 BILLION MORE TO UN FOR WORLD HUNGER . IF oblama is elected .
He is so , much of a terrorist .

YES , I SPELLED oblama right . oh no .,
MAY IT’S HUSSEIN !
WE DIDN’T FORGET SEPT 11 TH . BUSTER .

JRinLA… I am not going to match wits with you or try to prove or disprove… Those people are YES men… Save Colin Powell who is not in the same category as the others… were all puppets… even though Bush used Colin Powell… Clarence Thomas is a joke… my point is… none of them threatened the republican establishment.. he hop and skipped to the tune of Geaorge Bush… Stop playin gotcha… we both know the truth inside… you just wanna paint a picture to make yourself feel better about what the FACTS today show… black or white… you are STILL a GLUTTON FOR PUNISHMENT…

S. Adams wrote:
“let me remind you that Greenspan warned the Democratic congress in 2005 that Fanny Mae and Freddy mac”
LIARS, All LIARS – McCain, Palin and their supporters – the Congress wasn’t controlled by the Dems in 2005 – the Dem took a slim majority in the Npv 2006 election – with the term startins in Jan 2007. Please stop lying.
Wanda – I want my country’s leader to be educated jsut like other industrialize nations.
Samhiguchi is a racist.

whylie – There are Honda and Volkswagon plants here in the USA. So he could be teiing the truth. That having been said’ I could personally ar what kind of car he dries. He still scares me to death. To vloitle and “Loose Cannon”.

Why not? America is already the laughing stock of half the world.
I live in Bangor, Maine, and I am closer to Russia than Sarah palin in Alaska is. Can I be V.P.?

whylie–Who cares how many cars McCain has???
He has 7 kids. I’m sure he has bought them a car, as I have for my son as my dad did for me and my siblings when we were kids. So what?? Jay Leno has 84 cars and 73 morocycles. Does that make him Un-American? What do the liberals have against someone working hard and having something to show for it?

Palin is McCain’s purest expression of Country First–he has no regard for this country.
Maybe in the UN consultations he can stir up a war or two to get the adrenalin flowing, but I fear that dementia is overtaking him fast….then it will be all up to Sarah. get ready to bail.

The number of McCain’s cars and houses is an indicator of how ‘out of touch’ he is with the American people. More important, however, is the fact that he cannot decide which side of an issue he is on. The GOP keeps calling Barack an ‘elitist’ while ignoring the fact that McCain is living in a remote world reserved for the upper echelon elite. We’ve had 8 yrs of good-ol’-boy-I-wanna-have-a-beer-with-ya’ politics ruled by the least common denominator. Isn’t it time that we had a serious candidate that offered intelligent and thought filled solutions? The fact that the Palin/McCain ticket could prevail absolutely terrifies me.

I remember there was a time when America stood as a beacon to the world with your wealth, resources and world domination. Those days are almost over. The question is not if the United States will survive but which new super-powers will take the most?
China? Russia? or Europe?
There is no way that a nation can continually borrow and borrow trillions from other super-powers without a “collection day”. Americans are just dumb and blind enough to “fool” themselves into electing McCain. When this new imbecile is done finishing off what Bush began … let the divisions begin. I hope as Europeans we get a good chunk of America, perhaps the eastern seaboard and south. The Russians will most likely claim the northern hemisphere of America and China, of course, the West and South West.
I never thought I would live long enough to see this happen in my lifetime but that day is just over the horizon. With the election of McCain … the demise of America shall finally commence and then it will soon be over. (Please vote for McCain … wink wink)

Dear God, why does America have to suffer the indignity of having the rest of the world think we seriously propose this person as an international leader..? I know for a fact the U.S. is being eyed with renewed suspicion across the globe for its inability to shut down this Palin farce immediately, and what that impotence means about how incredibly shallow, irrational and untrustworthy we have become. Most of the world thinks our electoral decision is simple: Choose the 21st Century thinker, choose the cool-headed candidate, choose Obama. They thought this even before Palin. Now we just look confused and behind the times even for hesitating to quell this “extremist hockey-mom president” malarkey.

Wylie – you and I said the same thing. You said it better though.

To JRinLA
Michael Steele – you must be kidding – he is a repub mouthpiece. He could not win MD. I used to work with him and he is dumb – another GW. Plus he likes to delegate out of sheer laziness and lack of intellect. So no thanks for him being the first black president. BTW, Clinton had more minorities (racial, ethnic and gender) in his cabint – so stop the lies.

If you want to talk about lying Whylie, then look at your own candidate who has flip-flopped on every position he held since his nomination. I have seen him give different answers according to who his audience is. Look back when Obama first got into the race, and look at his positions now. He is trying to be more mainstream to appeal to a broader base just to get elected. The cars McCain bought might have been manufactured in the U.S. I have a toyota and my son drives a volkswagon, does that make me any less american?

Tom, the bill did not give the government the authority to “crack down.” The bill made Freddie and Fannie 100% private companies–no longer GSEs. The subprime crisis would have continued, and they still would have needed a bailout, just like Bear Stearns and AIG–two other completely private companies–did.
Obama wasn’t in the Banking Committee, which is the committee that killed this legislation that, according to you (and virtually no one else), would have Saved the Entire Economy from Ruin.
And you can still can’t answer why the Republican controlled Congress of over a decade didn’t do anything to stop the problem. BUT they did green light the new kinds of securities instruments that have led to the exuberance in the housing market. They also passed the legislation that dismantled the Glass-Steagall Act.
reddog, please. Everyone–even McCain–admits he had a very privileged upbringing. He is the descendant of two Navy admirals, and the McCains were a powerful and wealthy family.

S Adams, stop with the cliches of the Holllywood fundraiser. McCain had just held his own at the end of August. He raised $4.7 million in two days in California, including an event at the Beverly Hills Hilton, attended Patricia Heaton, Craig Nelson, Jon Cryer, among many others.
Let’s not forget Arnold Schwarzenegger and Fred Thompson.

Oh wait, now we’re counting flip flops? I’ll play:
How about John McCain saying repeatedly in 2002 that the Iraq War would be easy, and then in 2007 saying that anyone who ever thought the war would be easy was naive of the facts?
How about how on the Senate floor in 2001 he claimed that the Bush tax cuts went against his “conscience” because they forced middle-class tax payers who needed tax relief “the most” to pay more in order to benefit the rich? But now in 2008, these same cuts that he found so morally offensive are now the heart of his own tax plan, even thought our deficit has quadrupled since 2001?
How about how he denounced Rovian tactics when he was a candidate in 1999, and now has hired the same Bush team in order to win in 2008?
How about how he thought Lieberman and Ridge were most qualified for the VP job, but when his party said they would revolt if he picked either of them, he backed down and picked Palin, whom he hardly knew? Then he stands up in his convention speech and says he will go against his party?
How about in 1999 when he said that Roe v Wade should not be overturned? But in his 2008 campaign platform, he says it is a flawed decision that MUST be overturned?
Or how about in 2005 when he said that “we’ve got to adjudicate” the cases of the people held in Guatanamo? But then in 2008, he denounced the conservative Supreme Court’s decision to allow just that?
He claims now to have been a strong critic of George Bush’s–a maverick–but in the primaries, he argued repeatedly: “on the transcendent issues, the most important issues of our day, I’ve been totally in agreement and support of President Bush.” But now he is trying so hard to distance himself from Bush–while keeping all of the same policies on these “transcendent issues.”
How about claiming in 1999 when he was in South Carolina that he thought the confederate flag should continue to fly over the capitol and that it was a symbol of “heritage”? Then, after he lost the election, he admitted on television and in his own book that he only said that to get elected. Here’s the quotation: “[It was the] sacrifice of principle for personal ambition. I feared that if I answered honestly, I could not win the South Carolina primary. So I chose to compromise my principles.”
See, McCain is used to going back on his principles to win.
Seriously, this guy’s gone back on so many things that I can’t believe you right wingers want to bring up flip flopping! If you get him elected, how can you be sure which John McCain will show up in January?

Yes, MT, because what this country really needs in a leader right now is someone who “will not blink.” Because what we’ve really been missing in the past 8 years is a president with haughty certainty, who never admits accountability, and doesn’t think through any decisions. Indeed! More certainty, more stubbornness, and an inability to reflect on previous decisions are exactly the qualities that have been lacking in the White House over the past 8 years!

Ethel08 -
I think this meme is getting tired, but ok..
The s190 legislation proposed in 2005, co-sponsored by McCain, would have (if not defeated by Democrats) created a new agency within the Treasury Department to assume supervision of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, who, as you know, were the two largest players in the sub-prime mortgage lending industry.
The new agency would have had the authority, which had rested with Congress, to set one of the two capital-reserve requirements for the companies. The agency would have exercised authority over any new lines of business. And it would have been required to determine whether the two are adequately managing the risks of their ballooning portfolios.
Both Fannie and Freddie together issued more than $1.5 trillion in outstanding debt, which has now been thrust on the taxpayers.
Even after the 2005 report concluded that Freddie Mac manipulated its accounting to mislead investors, neither OBAMA nor the Democrats did anything about it.
McCain tried to do something about it. Could he have done more? Maybe. But to sit there and tell everyone that Obama a) wasn’t taking contributions from Fannie/Freddy or b) the legislation wouldn’t have made a difference, is pure fantasy.

MEETING WORLD LEADERS HERE IN THE US JUST TO TRY TO DECIEVE AMERICANS ON FOREIGN POLICY CREDENTIALS IS NOT ENOUGH! SHE IS CORRUPT, UNDER CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION AND SHAMELESSLY LIES!! SHE IS JUST NOT QUALIFIED !!

Palin, rocks!
60,000 came to her rally in Florida yesterday! SIXTY THOUSAND!!! chanting…
Sarah! Sarah!
It was quite something!
Go Sarah, go!
McCain/Palin 2008!

And I never claimed Obama didn’t take contributions from Freddie and Fannie. So I hope you don’t try to insinuate that McCain’s campaign isn’t being led by a bunch of people who profited as well.
I am arguing that Obama had nothing to do with McCain’s legislation being stopped.

Actually, my mom lives in Alaska and she has been shocked to hear Sarah Palin’s newfound folksy speech patterns. She said she never dropped her g’s before she started this run for VP, and she thinks she’s a total phony. My mom lives in Willow, near Wasilla, and she had a reasonably favorable opinion of the Palins (she was not living there when Palin was mayor, though). My mom was a Hillary supporter who was considering voting for McCain initially, but now that the truth has started to emerge about Sarah Palin and McCain 2.0 has been unveiled, she is firmly in the Obama camp.

Obama said he’s been to all 57 states right? I thought he was 1st in his class. At least McCain knew how many states he was defending while in the Military, LOL.

Palin? Bono?
Which one is the most pretentious celebrity?!

A woman who wanted rape victims to pay for their own rape kits. Nice solid values there…also, anti-gay, pro-censorship, plus left the town she was mayor of deeply in debt. Sounds like a good Republican to me!!!!!!

Mark, I’d choose Obama for that role, LOL.

Truman baby, your more like a cry baby. change your dirty diapers, it’s starting to stink around here, LOL.

Bkwoman, do you wanna talk like a man, or act like a woman. Who cares about queers in the first place. you must be a liberal moron, not a democrat, only liberals stand up for homo’s.

So, Bush-in-a-skirt is going to shake hands with a few of the heads of state we pay regularly and that is supposed to give her foreign policy credentials? When she says she can “see Russian from her door,” that’s like saying you can see San Francisco from a deck in St. Louis. Is her hubby and kids going to be there too? Remember her kids, the ones she wanted to keep from the media that she shows up with all the time? I wonder how the shotgun wedding is moving along.
Sarah Bush-in-a-skirt Palin…no morals, no foreign policy experience, nothing but a big mouth and designer glasses.

WHAT THE HELL HAS OSOMA OBAMA EVER DONE TO EARN THE RIGHT TO RUN THIS COUNTRY??? WOULD YOU WANT YOUR CHILD FIGHTING TO PROTECT THIS COUNTRY WITH HIM AS COMMANDER AND CHIEF? HELL NO!! WE’LL FOR SURE HAVE A DRAFT BECAUSE NO ONE WILL VOLUNTARILY JOIN THE MILITARY. HE CAN’T MAKE ANY DECISIONS HE ONLY VOTES PRESENT. WHAT KIND OF PRESIDENT WOULD THAT BE. “I’M HERE BUT DON’T ASK ME WHAT WE SHOULD DO…..” COME ON PAY ATTENTION TO THE FACTS, HE CAN’T LEAD…. HE HAS NO EXPERIENCE. PERIOD….

Any woman who would vote for Palin only because she is a woman is ignorant and sexist! Palin is NO CLINTON! Look at the issues not the vagina!

To TR: No need to yell, we can all hear you just fine.

ckt, Obama has no executive experience or Joe biden for that matter, what’s your point you liberal nut.

TR–You make very valid points, my husband is a captain in the Air Force and expects to resign his commission if Obama is elected.

Cheryl, what has Obama done for Pow’s and Mia’s families or even Biden

To Liberals are Idiots: It may be a stretch to assume that you can follow a thread, but my statement about McCain’s experience was a response to the post made by TR. BTW, the sophomoric name calling is a bit childish, don’t you think? And the lack of ability to apply logic to an argument is a resounding testament to the public school system and its inability to turn out people who can think on their own.

Republicans are child-molesting morons, LOL. Nice name change, LOL. How does that have anything to do with the candidates, let me guess, your now accusing McCain of child molesting, LOL. You just proved my point, Liberals are Idiots, LOL.
Posted by: Liberals are Idiots | Sep 22, 2008 6:23:54 PM
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dl is a queer left nut, his other nut is missing somewhere in San Francisco.
Posted by: Liberals are Idiots | Sep 22, 2008 5:09:48 PM
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Mr President? is that YOU?

To Liberals are Idiots: You have made numerous homophobic references, are you insecure in your sexuality?

Wanda, the Nazi’s were great patriots, too. I’m sure their Hitler campaign signs said “Country First”, or something like that, too.

To Neli: Ditto!! Or how about your oncologist graduated at number 894 out of 895. When you’re diagnosed with terminal cancer and he tells you that you’re fundamentally sound….just what does that mean? Or he decides on a course of treatment in the morning but by noon he’s reversed his opinion. Why do so many Americans hold such a low expectation of their commander in chief? Folks this isn’t a congeniality contest. The stakes are too high.

The Real Culprits In This Meltdown
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> INVESTOR’S BUSINESS DAILY
> Posted 9/15/2008
> Big Government: Barack Obama and Democrats blame the historic
> financial turmoil on the market. But if it’s dysfunctional, Democrats
> during the Clinton years are a prime reason for it.
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> Obama in a statement yesterday blamed the shocking new round of
> subprime-related bankruptcies on the free-market system, and
> specifically the “trickle-down” economics of the Bush administration,
> which he tried to gig opponent John McCain for wanting to extend.
> But it was the Clinton administration, obsessed with multiculturalism,
> that dictated where mortgage lenders could lend, and originally helped
> create the market for the high-risk subprime loans now infecting like
> a retrovirus the balance sheets of many of Wall Street’s most revered
> institutions.
> Tough new regulations forced lenders into high-risk areas where they
> had no choice but to lower lending standards to make the loans that
> sound business practices had previously guarded against making. It was
> either that or face stiff government penalties.
> The untold story in this whole national crisis is that President
> Clinton put on steroids the Community Redevelopment Act, a well-
> intended Carter-era law designed to encourage minority homeownership.
> And in so doing, he helped create the market for the risky subprime
> loans that he and Democrats now decry as not only greedy but
> “predatory.”
> Yes, the market was fueled by greed and overleveraging in the
> secondary market for subprimes, vis-a-vis mortgaged-backed securities
> traded on Wall Street. But the seed was planted in the ’90s by Clinton
> and his social engineers. They were the political catalyst behind this
> slow-motion financial train wreck.
> And it was the Clinton administration that mismanaged the quasi-
> governmental agencies that over the decades have come to manage the
> real estate market in America.
> As soon as Clinton crony Franklin Delano Raines took the helm in 1999
> at Fannie Mae, for example, he used it as his personal piggy bank,
> looting it for a total of almost $100 million in compensation by the
> time he left in early 2005 under an ethical cloud.
> Other Clinton cronies, including Janet Reno aide Jamie Gorelick,
> padded their pockets to the tune of another $75 million.
> Raines was accused of overstating earnings and shifting losses so he
> and other senior executives could earn big bonuses.
> In the end, Fannie had to pay a record $400 million civil fine for SEC
> and other violations, while also agreeing as part of a settlement to
> make changes in its accounting procedures and ways of managing risk.
> But it was too little, too late. Raines had reportedly steered Fannie
> Mae business to subprime giant Countrywide Financial, which was saved
> from bankruptcy by Bank of America.
> At the same time, the Clinton administration was pushing Fannie and
> her brother Freddie Mac to buy more mortgages from low-income
> households.
> The Clinton-era corruption, combined with unprecedented catering to
> affordable-housing lobbyists, resulted in today’s nationalization of
> both Fannie and Freddie, a move that is expected to cost taxpayers
> tens of billions of dollars.
> And the worst is far from over. By the time it is, we’ll all be paying
> for Clinton’s social experiment, one that Obama hopes to trump with a
> whole new round of meddling in the housing and jobs markets. In fact,
> the social experiment Obama has planned could dwarf both the Great
> Society and New Deal in size and scope.
> There’s a political root cause to this mess that we ignore at our
> peril. If we blame the wrong culprits, we’ll learn the wrong lessons.
> And taxpayers will be on the hook for even larger bailouts down the
> road.
> But the government-can-do-no-wrong crowd just doesn’t get it. They
> won’t acknowledge the law of unintended consequences from well-
> meaning, if misguided, acts.
> Obama and Democrats on the Hill think even more regulation and more
> interference in the market will solve the problem their policies
> helped cause. For now, unarmed by the historic record, conventional
> wisdom is buying into their blame-business-first rhetoric and bigger-
> government solutions.
> While government arguably has a role in helping low-income folks buy a
> home, Clinton went overboard by strong-arming lenders with tougher and
> tougher regulations, which only led to lenders taking on hundreds of
> billions in subprime bilge.
> Market failure? Hardly. Once again, this crisis has government’s
> fingerprints all over it.

Well you can’t blame any bravery/challenged conservative for being terrified of homosexuals, The courage they display when they stand up and admit they are different than most people is very intimidating. It’s better to keep your preferences secret in places like airport bathrooms

For those Obama voters click here:
http://townhall.com/Columnists/KevinMcCullough/2006/07/23/bamboozled_obamas_big_black_lie
McCain is the man. The man is McCain.

Woww…..the things that some people say online. Sheeeeesh.
I’m a little confused. Let me see if I have this straight… (I hope I’m not offending anyone).
If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you’re ‘exotic and different.’
Grow up in Alaska and you like moose burgers, and it’s a quintessential American story.
If your name is Barack you’re a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.
Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, and you’re a maverick.
Obtain your BS degree from Columbia Univ, then graduate from Harvard Law School, that makes you unstable.
Attend 5 different small and community colleges before graduating with a BS in journalism at Univ of Idaho after 6 yrs, and you’re well grounded.
If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer, become the
first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration
drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law
professor giving lectures, spend 8 years as a State Senator representing a district with over
750,000 people, become chairman of the state Senate’s Health and Human
Services committee, spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a
state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the
Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works, and Veteran’s Affairs
committees, you don’t have any real leadership experience (or foreign policy experience).
If your total resume is: local weather girl, 4 years on the city council and 6
years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people, 20 months as the
governor of a state with only 650,000 people, have eyes good enough to be able to see Russia across the water, obtained your very first US passport one year ago in 2007, then you’re qualified to become the country’s second highest ranking executive.
If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising 2
beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you’re not a real
Christian.
If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and left your
disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you’re a Christian.
If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including the proper
use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.
If, while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no
other option in sex education in your state’s school system while your unwed
teen daughter ends up pregnant, you’re very responsible.
If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position in a
prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city community,
then gave that up to raise a family, your family’s values don’t represent
America’s.
If your husband is nicknamed ‘First Dude’, with at least one DWI conviction
and no college education, who didn’t register to vote until age 25 and once was
a member of a group that advocated the secession of Alaska from the USA, your
family situation is extremely admirable.
OK, much clearer now. Whew. Steve

John McCain has prostituted himself, his country and whatever values he once had. The proof is in his “maverick” nature, which is an unwillingness to see anything but his own point of view–which has been demonstrably and consistently greed and power-oriented. He is a walking sepulchre of scandal and savage ambition, and his running mate is a hollow doll of profoundly mundane service to Big Oil and The Patriarchy. Obama/Biden 2008-2016.

Yeah, there probably weren’t any zoroastrians in there either….what’s your point?

lol…BTW, you are aware that there were women participating in the Revolutionary War are you not? I noticed that they had been omitted from your narrative. Do you not like women?

Ok, and why do you think that Obama is a nightmare?

For those Obama voters click here:
http://townhall.com/Columnists/KevinMcCullough/2006/07/23/bamboozled_obamas_big_black_lie
McCain is the man. The man is McCain.

It’s obvious to anyone with any intelligence or education that Palin is a dangerous dolt who doesn’t know Myanmar from Tupperware. That’s not the issue. As always, for the election, the only issue is the level of stupidity of the swing voters. Any of them not invincibly ignorant, or invincibly bigoted, have doubtless agreed with the educated that she’s an empty-headed person who would be a disaster as president. The rest, who may tragically provide Palin a majority, are simply fools, the same idiots who voted for Bush twice. TWICE!

Obama wants taxes and more taxes to pay for all his empty promises. America needs cuts in aid given to foreign countries that do not even like us. McCain wants to cut 700 billion dollars in foreign aid to countries that do not even like us. Before you worry about your own special interest, you better worry about Obama and the taxes he promises. Those taxes he claims tax only the rich and business is another Obama lie. All taxation trickles down to every taxpaying citizen. Obama is one big lie after the other.
McCain is the man. The man is McCain

By Jon Christian Ryter
January 16, 2008
NewsWithViews.com
In 1991 a young Muslim Harvard Law College graduate named Barack Hussein Obama (who has denied his Islamic past and Muslim roots for as long as he has been a public figure) became a civil rights community activist working out of the Trinity United Church of Christ. Obama worked as a community organizer for Trinity in poor black neighborhoods. Trinity’s senior pastor Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr, a black racist, who preached radical Afrocentric theology and didn’t mind delivering profanity-spiked sermons found a congregation-builder in Obama. Because of what Wright called Obama’s multiple-faith background and his Harvard education, he was a natural community-builder.
When Obama broke onto the national political scene in 2004, not only did he attempt to erase all traces his Islamic childhood, but he also tried to erase the nature of his relationship with Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr, the pastor of Trinity United Church of Christ. (When your country is at war with Islamic extremists being a Muslim is not the shortest route to the White House.) Obama has told the media his reason for shielding his pastor was because “…he respected Mr. Wright’s work for the poor and his fight against injustice.” In reality Dr. Wright’s work was to denounce the United States as a white racist nation. That’s not good press for an African American candidate who needs to win a majority of the white vote to win the office of President.
Click the link and learn truth.
http://www.newswithviews.com/Ryter/jon212.htm
McCain is the man. The man is McCain

ckt, the facts are that Obama has, almost 130 times taken the easy way out and voted present throughout his congressional career. Those were the time I would consider him not having done his job. Obama was either making calculated decisions on how to avoid controversy, or else he just did not know enough about the issues he was to vote. It means he was either being a coward or he was too uninformed. At least in my view, that is far too many “present” votes to be considered a true leader.
And I do not entirely disagree about McCain. However I have seen the same “change of heart” with Obama of late. I am hearing more and more half-truths, misleading, and out of context quotes used by both sides. If you think it is only one side that pulls that garbage, you have only been paying attention to one side only.
Lastly, I apologize if I do not sound “educated” enough on the keyboard. Maybe you can explain to me what exactly is a “lobbyist consutant”.

When a man has to continuously lie about his past, then there is something much deeper he is trying to hide. I would rather put a crook in the White House than a liar. Obama is man with a circle of lies.
This link shows the most serious information of all about a presidential candidate.
http://www.newswithviews.com/Ryter/jon212.htm
McCain is the man. The man is McCain

Sandra: That’s exactly right; We confessed Republican yellow bellies can relate to the Palin/McCain ticket much better than these other candidates with such intimidating qualities. Who knows how far they might go? World peace? A society with a large, healthy, educated middle class? It’s terrifying.

When a man has to continuously lie about his past, then there is something much deeper he is trying to hide. I would rather put a crook in the White House than a liar. Obama is man with a circle of lies. Obama has his wires crossed.
This link shows the most serious information of all about a presidential candidate.
http://www.newswithviews.com/Ryter/jon212.htm
McCain is the man. The man is McCain

I would rather put a crook in the White House than a liar.
Posted by: Judge | Sep 22, 2008 9:10:30 PM
——————-
ACTUALLY; YOU’VE DONE BOTH … TWICE.
AND WHEN YOU HAVE SOME REAL OBJECTIVE SOURCES, NOT AFFILIATED TO ANY PARTY THEN I WILL LOOK AGAIN.
SURELY YOU CAN POST WHATEVER COMES OUT OF YOUR REAR END, BUT WHO I AM NOT GOING TO WASTE MY TIME READING OTHER PEOPLE’S OPINION. I LIKE FACTS BETTER.
EVEN WHEN THEY DON’T HELP OBAMA. WHY?
BECAUSE I DON’T PUT MY PARTY FIRST. I PUT MY CONTRY FIRST. HAVE YOU READ ANY OF MY -WELL DOCUMENTED AND SOURCES ACCOUNTED FOR- FACTS?

There are no true comparisons to the lies that come from Obama’s mouth.
I do not see anything that shows Palin’s disrespect for the American flag. I do not see pictures of Palin associating with Muslims in foreign countries. No one can show Palin consorting with Dr. Wright who works is to denounce the United States as a white racist nation. Sarah Palin may twist words for political gain, but Palin does not hide from her past. That’s the big difference between Obama and Palin.
When a man has to continuously lie about his past, then there is something much deeper he is trying to hide. I would rather put a crook in the White House than a liar. Obama is man with a circle of lies.
This link shows the most serious information of all about a presidential candidate.
http://www.newswithviews.com/Ryter/jon212.htm
McCain is the man. The man is McCain

How exactly can a senile, geriatric and revolting geezer be called “the man”?
Posted by: Sandra | Sep 22, 2008 8:53:54 PM
—————
SANDRA, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, MCCAIN ONCE WAS A MAN WHO GAVE HIS ALL FOR HIS COUNTRY. BAD STUDENT, BAD PILOT, WHO CARES! HE’S A MAN WITH AN AMAZING STORY TO TELL AND WE SHOULD BE GRATEFUL AND PROUD TO CALL HIM AN AMERICAN HERO.
ALAS, HE SHOULD HAVE WON THE REPUBLICAN TICKET BACK WHEN BUSH FIRST RAN… SHAMEFULLY THE REPUBLICAN PARTY CHOSE THE WRONG MAN. REGRETFULLY REALLY… NOW HE’S BACK FOR WHAT HE’S “DUE”

In God’s economy, degrees mean nothing. He takes what the so called “wise” looks down upon and utterly confounds them. He also says that He puts kings on their thrones and “takes them down”. The Libs who condone abortion, guy marriage, and all the other abominations that have been going on in this country will some day be held accountable by a Holy God, and let’s see who has the last laugh.

McCain and Palin will be in the Whitehouse in November. They are destined for such a time as this. God will finally be able to run this country leaders that are submitted to Him and not sold out for their own power and gain. Remember, the Bible says that, “man’s knowledge is foolishness to Him.”

She has not business meeting any head of State. I bet you she would not be able to point Georgia or Afghanistan on a map.

Please, marry a Muslim and become one of his four wives. When you are too old to serve the family, go find a place in the street to sleep.
There are many that can tell you this is the Muslin way.
I respect the Jews and all they have to offer the world. The Jews work for world peace and the improvement of the world. I do not know any Jews that have four wives
Posted by: Judge | Sep 22, 2008 9:43:34 PM
———————
ACTUALLY, I HAVE READ THE QUO’RAN. SEE I AM NOT AFRAID OF WHAT’S DIFFERENT.
I AM AFRAID OF IGNORANCE.
I LEARNED THAT FROM HIS HOLINESS TENZIN GYATZO; THE DALAI LAMA, WHEN HE SPOKE AT FIU AND UM (MIAMI, FL) AND BEFORE YOU DAMN YOURSELF ALLOW ME TO SAY THIS: MCCAIN AND HIS HOLINESS MET IN JULY OF 2008 AND I ADMIRE JOHN MCCAIN FOR ADVOCATING FOR THE FREEDOM OF TIBET.

Posted by: angela | Sep 22, 2008 9:48:56 PM
LADY, MY HUMBLE ADVISE IS NOT TO GO THERE.
DO NOT EVEN THINK OF SHAKING THE FOUNDATIONS OF MY FAITH. BECAUSE NOT ONCE IN THIS HERE BOARD HAS AN INSULT OR A LIE COME OUT OF MY MOUTH. AND FURTHERMORE THERE IS THE ONE COMANDMENT THAT SAYS THAT YOU SHOULD NOT USE THE NAME OF THE LORD IN VAIN.
JUST A THOUGHT.

Cool! I’m so jealous of Sarah Palin, she’ll be talking with Bono! And Boo to Sen. McCain for talking about Obama’s fundraising with Barbara Streisand. Streisand is too good of a singer for you to mock Obama for being around. I mean if this was Celine Dion I would be ok with the mocking(Dion is not one of my favorite singers). Oh but Sarah will talk with the President of Afghanistan. I hope she read up on the guy before she talked with him. McCain is old and old men can get away with not doing homework because they think they know everything (that’s why I don’t volunteer sitting with them in hospitals because they want me to sometimes sit on their lap and I’m like “I know I’m light but if you break a hip, you know you’re gonna die in six to eight weeks” because men can’t survive a broken hip as long as women can.). But anyway going off topic for a sec., the point is I’m sure God has more things better to do than to help support people’s political agendas. Like make sure flowers grow and stuff. I’m sure he would rather want us to get along then to crap all over each other other because we are all made in his image. Plus none of us is perfect except for Jesus Christ and I know I haven’t seen him walking around anybody’s neighborhood. You know there’s a saying around a hair salon I go to sometimes, “Girl, you better clip your broken ends before you hate on someone’s curl.” So stop the hate-er-aid. One love!

Judge: Can you tell your caretakers to take you off your computer now? You alluded to being 70 yrs. It’s bedtime now.

“SARAH: Oh but Sarah will talk with the President of Afghanistan. I hope she read up on the guy before she talked with him.”
I BET YOU A PEPSI SHE’S GONNA ASK HIM “SO WHERE’S THE MISSUS”?
I CAN’T BELIEVE THEY ARE GOING TO HUMILIATE THE MEMORY OF BHUTTO BY HAVING HER MEET WITH HIM.

It just shows the false assumptions made by Obama backers. I live in Asia and it is morning here. If any one needs a caretaker or a nurse, it must be your demented self. You Obama backers certainly do show how ignorant you really are.

ha…Bono has more foreign policy experience. I’m sure they’ll still have plenty to talk about, like their extensive travels in Ireland.

Posted by: Judge | Sep 22, 2008 10:33:57 PM
I do not have any more time for these foolish Obama backers
:)
I DIDN’T THINK SO EITHER..

oh honey I’m sorry…
I don’t think he’s coming back.
At least while he thinks I am here.

What the hel1. I don’t understand why I wasn’t asked to be on the ticket with McCain. I don’t know jack about economics but then neither does Sarah so that shouldn’t disqualify me. I’m not too sure what the answer is in regard to the peace process between Israel and Palestine either. I may have to give that one to Sarah though; I suppose God will tell her what the answer is. I am not sure how to balance concerns over human rights and freedom in China with our growing economic interdependence with that country, but I doubt Sarah even knows that China is an up and coming powerhouse. I only went to 3 colleges to get my degree; however, the thing that makes me a lot more qualified than Palin is that I spent a semester in Japan and went to an international school. The students there were from all over the world. If there is a write in option on the ballot can everyone scratch Sarah out and write me in. That would be so cool. I think that I am a lot more qualified than she is, I would be way more entertaining, and I am not in an apocalyptic cult that falsely thinks war will bring about the rapture – so no nuclear winter!

I think you need to understand what you’re talking about before you shoot your mouth off. The ‘present’ vote has nuances that are probably too much for the McCain-ites to understand, but here goes:
Because bills need “yes” votes to pass, “present” translates to “a soft no,” as Deputy Republican Senate Leader Christine Radogno of Lemont put it.
“One use for it is when you favor an idea, but you think the bill has a fatal flaw of some sort,” she said. “Another is when you have a conflict of interest. And another is when you want to play both sides of the fence . . . or to avoid casting a vote that your next opponent will try to take out of context.”
Across the aisle, Sen. John Cullerton, a Chicago Democrat, defined “present” as “no with an explanation.”
Cullerton said another use of the seemingly squirrelly vote is to “signify displeasure with the process, but not the concept.” He added that you’d be hard-pressed to find members of the General Assembly—including key allies of John McCain—who don’t use it from time to time for various reasons.
Illinois legislators have been casting “present” votes since at least 1931, according to the House clerk’s office. But the idea hasn’t swept the nation.
A recent survey by the National Conference of State Legislatures found that only Colorado, Delaware, Massachusetts, Missouri and Texas allow similar options in at least one chamber.
Lawmakers in Hawaii can vote “kanalua,” meaning undecided. But House clerk Pat Mau-Shimizu said Monday that it’s more of a stalling tactic than a hedge or protest, and that “kanalua” turns into a “yes” after the third and final roll call.
Most Hawaiians don’t understand it, she said. And most Illinoisans don’t understand the subtleties of “present” votes, in part because they mean different things (including unsavory, slippery things) at different times.
Obama has defended many of his “present” votes in the Illinois Senate as part of the larger legislative strategy of the Democratic caucus and not a failure of nerve or attempt to conceal his true sentiments from voters.
I’m not here to referee that claim. I’m here to say that there’s only one word for the integrity of those who use the raw number of an Illinois legislator’s “present” votes to draw a conclusion about him: Absent.

McCaine-GIGI 08 – Why would you think that just because someone doesn’t belong to some nutty evangelical church they are a devil worshiper? Do you think Methodists, Lutherans, and other mainstream protestant denominations are all devil worshipers? And maybe she lives in a state that has a perpetual summer, like Hawaii or Southern California, that doesn’t adhere to the ‘white after labor day’ rule. She apparently is a surfer so this may be a safe bet. And why do you think SurferChick is a forger?

Someone asked earlier about ‘lobbyist consultants’. McCain has placed on his staff more lobbyists than any other ’08 candidate. These are the same ‘fat cats’ that he portends to distain.
Tom Loeffler – Campaign Co-Chair
PhRMA, Southwest Airlines, Toyota, & Martin Marietta.
Slade Gorton – Honorary Chairman for Washington State. Burlington Northern, Sante Fe Corp, Weyerhauser, Fidelity National Financial
David Crane — Sr Policy Advisor. The Washington Group, Delta Airlines, Assoc of American Railroads, and the goverments of Panama and Bangladesh
Charlie Black — Campaign Spokesman.
BKSH & Associates representing JP Morgan, Occidental, and General Motors
CEO Rick Davis — Partner at Davis Manafort whose clients include SBC Communications and Verizon
Christian Ferry
Mike Dennehey
Carly Fiorinna who bailed out of HP with a 42 million dollar parachute after causing 20,000 people to join the unemployment lines.
All told, McCain has 11 lobbyists on his ‘inner circle’ staff. Again, more than ANY OTHER ’08 candidate, republican or democrat. Who do you think will play politics ‘as usual’?

Gigi and Tiff are the usual kind of person that supports subversive people. I live in the Philippines just north of the Muslim MILF. The MILF are murdering innocent men, women and children for nothing more than personal gain. Since you are all so worldly, you should know the meaning of the MILF. There is nothing like Muslim teachings to teach you to how to murder beautiful peace loving people. People that for the most part are hard working farmers and fishermen. These are the same teaching Obama received during his youth and in later years. No one can guarantee that Obama has put aside his Muslim teaching. In fact, a person becomes more of what they are taught as a youngster. He cannot put aside his Muslim teachings or the time with Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr., the pastor of Trinity United Church of Christ.
Gigi never think an ex US ARMY man would run from someone like you. Tiff, I hope you are living in the comforts of your habitat. Your assumption of me is dead wrong. Just be ready for the very worse if Obama wins the presidential election. However, after phone calls to my Republican Pennsylvania constituent, they are confirming that Obama is losing the rural vote. Obama may carry Philadelphia, but that race will be closer than is reported by ABC.
If the Democrats would have selected a black Jew, I would consider him a possible selection for my vote as President. Never would I select Obama. I would rather give my vote to McCain no mater what.
Please, read the entire link.
http://www.newswithviews.com/Ryter/jon212.htm
McCain is the man. The man is McCain

So what is this; The Gospel According to Anne Coulter? From the Rovian depths of hell comes the art of the lie that the republicans have perfected and taken to an inconceivable level. There are so many fallacies in that last post that I don’t even know where to start. Look, you’re wearing me out. Your narrow-minded, uneducated, and psuedo-informed responses are too bizarre to dignify any longer. I’m out of here, but I leave on one note…remember that just because you have silenced a person does not mean that you have changed him/her.

Why associate with the person in this link?
http://www.newswithviews.com/Ryter/jon212.htm
You have the wrong story about Obama. His teaching are of the Muslims.

Dot be real…as a presidential candidate she can meet with whoever she wants.
You Obama people just cannot understand that Obama is a Muslim. You try to tear apart true Americans that have a true American spirit. Palin doe not associate with Muslims and she does not associate with people who think American is nothing more than a white racist nation.
McCain is the man. The man is McCain

Bono…
Now Sarah Palin’s life will be complete.
I used to believe in other parallel universes, now I know I’m living in one.
Bono…Good grief.

OMG DOT HE DIDN’T EVEN READ THE POST!
lol!!!!! JUDGE, YOU THOUGHT DOT WAS TALKING ABOUT PALIN?
NO. SHE’S TALKING ABOUT THE GOBAL INITIATIVE THAT WAS SIGNED AS A PACT BETWEEN SEVERAL NATIONS, BACK WHEN CLINTON WAS PRESIDENT. AMONG OTHER GOALS, THEY WANT TO COMIT TO END WORLD HUNGER.
THIS IS DONE WITH THE UNITED NATIONS AND THE UNITED STATES IS ONE OF THE COUNTRIES THAT HAS CONTRIBUTED THE LESS TOWARDS THE GOAL THEY AGREED UPON. DENMARK IS ONE OF THE COUNTRIES THAT HAS CONTRIBUTED THE MOST. THERE IS A REPORT, AND STRAIGHT FROM THE UNITED NATIONS AND NOT FROM SOME ‘OPINION’ WEBSITE (THANKS JUDGE, BUT SOME OF US POST OUR OWN OPINIONS, NOT OTHER’S… THAT’S TOO DARN EASY!)
HERE’S A LINK TO THE MILLENIUM DEVELOPMENT GOALS REPORT, FROM THE UNITED NATION http://mdgs.un.org/unsd/mdg/Resources/Static/Products/Progress2007/UNSD_MDG_Report_2007e.pdf
IN IT YOU WILL SEE THE PROGRESS, OR LACK THEREOF…
THIS COULD HELP US HEAL THE FOREIGN AFFAIRS ISSUES WE HAVE… OR NOT… DEPENDS ON WHO WE CHOOSE.
DUDE… THAT WAS PLAIN EMBARRASING! LOL! IT’S NOT JUST COPY AND PASTE YOU KNOW!

JUDGE, I DON’T READ PARTISAN PROPAGANDA…
WHY DON’T YOU READ WHAT DOT WAS TALKING ABOUT, AND FIND HOW WHY ALL THESE HEADS OF STATE AND PHILANTROPERS SUCH AS BONO ARE COMING HERE:
http://mdgs.un.org/unsd/mdg/Resources/Static/Products/Progress2007/UNSD_MDG_Report_2007e.pdf
STRAAAIGHT FROM THE UNITED NATIONS! FRESH FROM THE PRINTERS!!!
SHOWING HOW THE UNITED STATES IS AMONG THE BOTTOM TWO NATIONS, WITH THE LEAST GOALS REACHED.
MCCAIN IS FREE-LOADING AND USING IT TO EXPOSE PALIN… WHILE AT THE SAME TIME BACKSTABING OBAMA BY USING THIS VERY PROGRAM TO TELL ALL OF YOU THAT OBAMA IS TRYING TO END WORLD HUNGER…
I AM NOT SURE I LIKE THAT.

You talk about propaganda….Do you know how much money really goes to world hunger. The United States pays most of the bills for the United Nations. Countries like Russia and many other nations never pay one red cent to help pay for the United Nations. American taxpayers foot the bill for the UN.
I see hunger here in the Philippines and the United States is one of the few that gives help to the poor in the Philippines. I know medical doctors that come to the Philippines to perform surgeries and other medical procedures here in the Philippines. I do not see much help here in the Philippines if any from other countries.
I know where Obama’s contributions will go. Obama’s contributions will go to help the Muslim countries subvert Democracy. You ignore the truth in the links I ask everyone to read. And you dare talk about propaganda. You live in a fish bowl and the real world passes you by.
The United States helped countries after World War II…countries like Japan, Germany, Philippines, England, France, Italy, Yugoslavia and so many others. The only country that every repaid their debt to the United States was Germany.
You people know crap when it comes to the United States and all the monies it has handed out to help world hunger and in the efforts of peace.
You think Muslim Obama is the latest and the greatest. He’s all yours. I know Pennsylvania is turning away from Obama. McCain/ Palin may be not the best, but anything is better than Muslim Obama.

You talk about propaganda….Do you know how much money really goes to world hunger.
THIS COMMENT ALREADY PROVES YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
The United States pays most of the bills for the United Nations.
WRONG, THE UNITED STATES IS THE HIGHEST PAYING MEMBER BUT IT DOES NOT PAY MOST OF THE “BILLS”. FUNDING COMES FROM EACH MEMBER NATION USING A PERCENTAGE BASED ON GROWTH, POPULATION INCOME, EXTERNATL DEBT ETC.
Countries like Russia and many other nations never pay one red cent to help pay for the United Nations.
FALSE, ACCORDING TO THE WORLD FEDERATION OF THE UNITED NATIONS ASSOCIATIONS, THE TOP EIGHT CONTRIBUTORS TO THE UN ARE: USA (25%); Japan (15.4%); Germany (9%); France (6.4%); the United Kingdom (5.3%); Italy (5.2%); Russia (4.5%); and Canada (3.1%). Collectively, they account for more than 73% of the regular UN budget.
HOW CAN YOU LIE SO, BLATANTLY?????
American taxpayers foot the bill for the UN.
AMERICAN TAXPAYERS MIGHT FOOT THE BILL FOR THE AMOUNT DUE TO THE UN BY AMERICA. WHAT? YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH FOREIGN POLICY? – A TRAVELLED MAN LIKE YOU??? HMMM…..
I see hunger here in the Philippines and the United States is one of the few that gives help to the poor in the Philippines. I know medical doctors that come to the Philippines to perform surgeries and other medical procedures here in the Philippines. I do not see much help here in the Philippines if any from other countries.
FIRST AND FOREMOST WE ARE LUCKY TO LIVE IN SUCH A GREAN COUNTYR. SECOND: THAT WHICH YOU DO NOT SEE DOES NOT EXIST?
THAT SOUNDS LIKE A PERSONAL PROBLEM TO ME, YOU SHOULD GET THAT FIXED.
I know where Obama’s contributions will go. Obama’s contributions will go to help the Muslim countries subvert Democracy.
AND WHICH CONTRIBUTIONS ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? BECAUSE DOT’S COMMENTS ARE ABOUT SENATOR DAVIS’ PROPOSED BILL.
You ignore the truth in the links I ask everyone to read.
ACTUALLY, WRONG AGAIN. I HAVE READ THE LINKS AND IT TURNS OUT, UNVALIDATED THEM TIME AFTER TIME. AND NOT WITH PARTISANSHIP WEBSITES OR EDITORIAL COMMENTARIES LIKE IRRESPONSIBLE PEOPLE LIKE YOU DO… I HAVE CITED AGAIN AND AGAIN AND HERE YOU GO AGIAN: FACTCHECK.ORG POLITIFACT.COM SNOPES.COM AND SEVERAL OTHERS… I READ YOURS, I KNOW THEM BY HEART. I STUDIED THEM AND FOUND OBJECTIVE INFORMATION THAT DIFFUSES IT YET YOU CONTINUE TO IGNORE THE FACTS.
And you dare talk about propaganda. You live in a fish bowl and the real world passes you by.
THAT IS YOUR IGNORANT ASSUMPTION. WHEN YOU SERVE ME AN OBJECTIVE WEBSITE I WILL APOLOGYZE TO YOU. IN THE MEANTIME YOU SIR, ARE A FARSE.
The United States helped countries after World War II…countries like Japan, Germany, Philippines, England, France, Italy, Yugoslavia and so many others.
IT IS THANKS TO RESPONSIBLE PEOPLE WHO PUT THEIR COUNTRY FIRST AND THEIR PRIDE AND FEARS ASIDE THAT THIS GREAT NATION OF OURS HAS STRIVED. THIS IS THE LEGACY OF TRUE HEROES. AND MY GENERATION IS IN CHARGE OF MAKING SURE OUR CONSITUTION’S PROMISE OF ALL MEN CREATED EQUAL STRIVES!
The only country that every repaid their debt to the United States was Germany.
You people know crap when it comes to the United States and all the monies it has handed out to help world hunger and in the efforts of peace.
I HAVE A LOT TO LEARN, BUT AT LEAST I KNOW THAT THE MILLENIUM DEVELOPMENT GOAL ISN’T A DEBUTANT PARTY FOR SARAH PALIN.
You think Muslim Obama is the latest and the greatest.
NO, I THINK AMERICAN’S ARE THE LATEST AND TEH GREATESTS. AND WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE, AND WE WILL.
He’s all yours. I know Pennsylvania is turning away from Obama. McCain/ Palin may be not the best, but anything is better than Muslim Obama.
WELL YOU CAN’T GIVE MORE THAN YOU HAVE. AND THIS IS ALL YOU HAD.

It’s truly a joke that a rock and roll musician is put on equal footing as a world leader. These rock stars believe they are gods, but, they are corrupting influences. They cloak themselves in causes, but, that doesn’t make them good. It sickens me that Bono is put in the same sentence as those responsible for Planet Earth. I think we are truly doomed.

Jenny – Sarah Palin scares the heck out of you??? You know why? Because she has principles, dignity and knows who she IS!! The left is afraid of her because she will bring structure and conservative principles to the office of vice president. She will stand up for what she believes in and that just scares you guys to death!!

PBS is doing one of those instant online polls to ask “America” if they
think Sarah Palin is fit to be Vice President.
The GOP has launched a successful all out blitz to get Republicans to go on
the site and click “Yes”. As a result right now it looks like 51% of “America” thinks Palin is qualified. The Republicans are going to be milking
this for all its worth in their press efforts.
We need to drive more Democrats and those opposed to Palin to the site to
click “NO”. Let’s not give the GOP another easy weapon to put in their PR
arsenal!
Here’s the link:
http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html
You don’t have to enter your email address or anything, just click “NO”.

“Hey Melsey, your criticism of Sarah Palin’s accent/language shows how small
minded people can truly be (with or without a master’s degree). Palin is just revealing her true self….a real person with good values and beliefs.
Most Americans are tired of the “elite on the street” Washington bureaucrats and there double talk. Finally, someone like Palin gives us straight talk and some Americans can’t deal with it. I’m proud to be one of those
“educated” Americans that can understand straight talk. Sorry you can’t.”
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Sorry Diva, I’m an “educated” woman with a masters and PhD degree in a very high profile field and I support Obama. Do you HONESTLY believe that Palin has good morals/values when:
1. She/her husband are too busy trying to climb to the top rather than talking care of their million kids, one of which is pregnant/high school dropout/going to marry a dropout, and the other of which has Down’s? Shouldn’t SOMEONE be tending to them or is that their 17 year old’s job to hold/take care of the baby?? Sorry, its not being sexist. I choose to have a high profile career but I don’t plan on having 10 kids either.
2. Do you think Palin has good values when she snipes endangered species, such as wolves, from airplanes and takes other endangered species off of the list?
3. Do you think Palin has good values when she makes rape victims pay for their own rape kits?
4. Do you think Palin has good values when she will not allow a woman to choose (oh, and if you force every woman not to have an abortion, then I suspect YOU are willing to take care of the babies and pay for them)?
5. Do you think Palin has good morals and values when she blatantly lied about the bridge to nowhere?
6. Do you think Palin has good morals and values when she talks about going to war with Russia without “blinking for a second?”
7. Do you think Palin has good morals and values when War is just “Gods will” as she has decided it to be, regardless of how many innocent lives will be lost?
8. Do you think McCain has good morals when he cheated on his sick first wife for a younger/MUCH RICHER woman?
If you’re claiming to understand “straight talk” then you BETTER start reading up (not People magazine but something with more substance) and listing out why Palin is SO FULL of straight talk and so much more “moral” than anyone else. Its sickening to live in a country where the word “educated” is replaced with elistist, snobbery, etc. So in your world, does “educated” mean excuses, someone who believes and perpetuates lies, and someone who will vote a vapid and unskilled woman into office just because they’re a woman (not to mention what a mockery she is making of women)? If so, please keep making excuses, keep believing that McCain/Palin are so honest and full of integrity when the rest of the world isnt, keep ignoring the plethora of FACTS that despute the lies, keep ignoring the fact that Palin’s experience revolves around seeing some piece of land from her window and McCain’s is merely age and a “lack of understanding about the economy.” But then…you shouldn’t call yourself educated in the process. I dont want some “down home” ignorance running this country…you see what just happened for the past 8 years since all of you “educated” people elected and re-elected our current president. Its time for insight and intelligence. If that makes me elitist, so be it for the future of our country.

Oh…I forgot to add an important point and that is if Obama was a Muslim, then why has he been the ONLY ONE to keep saying that we should have/should put troops in Pakistan to dismember terrorist cells? Since you people may not know this, but Pakistan is a MUSLIM country.

YOU KNOW WHAT, I’M STARTING TO WISH OBAMA WAS A MUSLIM… SO HE COULD HOOK IT UP AND CREATE A NEW ALLIANCE!
ETA BOMBED ANOTHER CAR TODAY, DO YOU THINK ANYONE HERE CARES?
BUT IF THAT COUNTRY WHERE ETA BOMBARDED THE CAR DOES NOT JUMP AT OUR NEEDS, WE CONDEMN THEM!
WE COULD USE THAT COUNTRY’S ALLIANCE RIGHT NOW:
DID YOU KNOW THAT A RUSSIAN SQUADRON OF NAVY SHIPS ARE HEADED FOR VENEZUELA AND THAT CHAVEZ JUST ARRIVED IN CHINA FOR A STATE VISIT?
SOURCES: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/sep/23/russia.venezuela
BEIJING: Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez said his country is no longer the backyard of the U.S. and that he finds it more important to visit Beijing than New York, as he arrived Tuesday in China’s capital on first leg of an international tour.
THE INTERNATIONAL HERALD TRIBUNE OF ASIA-PACIFIC http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/09/23/asia/AS-China-Venezuela.php

As an independent former Hillary supporter I await the judgement of Bono before making up my mind since he is obviously unswayed by the pro Obama press which will not report that he is really an Arab.

Just one more thing…Muslim Obama knows nothing about tactics and warfare.
Muslim Obama is an attorney and that is all he is. We all know what is joked about attorneys and how they can be trusted. Please, do not forget the link.
http://www.newswithviews.com/Ryter/jon212.htm

Just one more thing…Muslim Obama knows nothing about tactics and warfare.
Muslim Obama is an attorney and that is all he is. We all know what is joked about attorneys and how they can be trusted. Please, do not forget the link.
http://www.newswithviews.com/Ryter/jon212.htm
Posted by: Judge | Sep 23, 2008 11:37:12
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FUNNY… YOU KNOW WHO ELSE IS AN ATORNEY?
MARGARET THATCHER

Yes, but Margaret Thatcher did not have Muslim teachings.
Please, do not forget the link.
http://www.newswithviews.com/Ryter/jon212.htm

More from England:
In the 1950s Margaret Thatcher trained as a lawyer, specialising in taxation. She was elected to Parliament in 1959 as Member of Parliament (MP) for Finchley, a north London constituency, which she continued to represent until she was made a member of the House of Lords (as Baroness Thatcher) in 1992. Within two years, she was given junior office in the administration of Harold Macmillan and during 1964-70 (when the Conservatives were again in Opposition), established her place among the senior figures of the party, serving continuously as a shadow minister. When the Conservatives returned to office in 1970, under the premiership of Edward Heath, she achieved cabinet rank as Education Secretary.
Please, do not forget the link.
http://www.newswithviews.com/Ryter/jon212.htm

So Ms. Palin meets with world leaders. When’s she going to take some questions from the U.S. Press Corps? There’s a fool born every minute and millions of them are going to cast their votes for Grandpa and the Beauty Queen. How sad and low we’ve sunk in this once great country.

JUDGE
YOU ARE NOT CORRECTING ME, YOU ACTUALLY JUST VALIDATED ME.K
THANK YOU, YOU PRETTY MUCH COPIED AND PASTED, BUT AT LEAST YOU WROTE THE SAME I DID…
WHAT’S YOUR POINT?
I GUESS IF WE CAN COMPARE PALIN TO THATCHER, YOU DON’T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ME COMPARING PAMELA ANDERSON WITH THE VIRGIN MARY.

Judge: Boston Hearld art. reads biased to me.

Palin is smarter than Obama. It is hard to tell how much brain damage he suffered after being on CRACK COCAINE all through high school and college. That is almost 8 years of hard core drugs. Not just experimenting but habitual Crack use. His brain must have been permanently damaged from such drug use.

Sarah Palin will be meeting with World Leaders in New York today. Rest assured they will find her very charming just as they would be charmed by a meeting with another Hockey Mom or Soccer Mom or even a Hockey Child. We will not know what transpires during that meeting but I can tell you this: I have met at least one of the people who will meet with her and I have had the opportunity to meet and greet him on many occasions since then. The first time I actually met him was over thirty years ago. I am an average individual who is the spouse of another average individual who is often in attendance at events where the attendants are for the most part very prominent individuals that might also include royalty.
Another event about ten years ago, attended only by statesmen and world leaders, past and present, and very few others, began with a reception that was so crowded that one could hardly make a pathway through to get by. As I pushed my way by a small group of men who had their backs turned to me he reached out and grabbed my hand to speak to me. The last time I saw him was at an event about two years ago and again he was exceedingly charming.
Most world leaders are very cordial and gracious to most other people. Palin will be treated by them with the same regard. They will very likely treat her with the same respect extended to me or to anyone else of any station in life. The difference will be that I know I am not presidential or vice presidential material and this meeting will not miraculously turn her into such either.

Sarah Palin does not need any miracles.
Obama needs many miracle.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=74783
http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=60559
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=74635

You people who keep on saying that Obama is a Muslim KNOW that he isn’t one, but you love to spread lies just like your Old wrinkly guy McSame. Obama is much smarter than McSame and Palin put together- Obama was at the top of his class at Harvard, Palin went to 5 different schools and barely graduated, and McCain was 4th from the very bottom at the Navel Academy. I choose the smarter person, hands down. Look where bottom of his class GW Bush has gotten us. Clinton was at the top of his class too. I choose brains to lead the country, it really matters, folks!! Obama Biden 08′

Biden cannot keep up with Obama’s lies.
“NO coal plants here in America,” Biden said. “Build them, if they’re going to build them, OVER THERE. Make them clean.”
Hey Joe, be sure to repeat that message at all your campaign stops in Ohio, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, and Kentucky—especially to all those Union Coal Miners. Idiot.
This answer fits quite nicely into John McCain’s case that Obama has been saying “no” to ALL new sources of energy. As they said at the Dem convention, “The most important barrel of oil is the one we don’t use.”
McCain did not miss a beat:
ARLINGTON, VA — Congresswoman Shelly Moore Capito (R-WV), former Virginia Governor and Senator George Allen, former Congressman Scott McInnis (R-CO) and RNC Chairman Mike Duncan will announce the McCain-Palin campaign’s Coalition to Protect Coal Jobs, a nationwide group including members of Congress, state government and other influential leaders. The coalition will help spread the message about the importance of clean coal technology and the advantages of tapping the country’s vast coal reserves. As part of John McCain’s “all of the above” energy plan, the Lexington Project, clean coal will be a strong component of the drive to energy independence. In addition to providing domestic energy, the coal industry is a key part of the economy in several states.
John McCain’s support for clean coal technology is in sharp contrast to that of his opponents. Joe Biden visited Virginia on Saturday, saying that he was a “hard-coal miner” and that it was “nice to be back in coal country” while Obama supporter, Congressman Rick Boucher (D-VA) said “Senator Obama’s a friend of coal.” But just two days later in Ohio, Senator Biden said he wants “no coal plants here in America” and that he and Senator Obama are “not supporting clean coal.”

GIGI…When you learn how to read the news in a proper way, you will understand the real truth about the Muslim Obama lies. I did not put Bush in the White House. The Democrats did the voting for the Republican candidates. Much in the same way that Biden has lost Pennsylvania and is losing all the other coal states.

I don’t know if I’m the first actual Alaskan to post here, but I can tell you that not everyone in Alaska loves Palin, especially with her having abandoned us completely to McCain’s Rovian mechanisms. This woman is an ignorant, small town, right wing nutcase, and Alaska is a world unto itself. Being able to govern here in Alaska, to the small extent she has done so, has ZILCH to do with her ability to serve in a national or international capacity. And the National Guard thing? Please. She loses control of that as soon as they are mobilized, and there’s a mere handful up here anyway.
Those voters who want someone like “you” in office: do you really think any of those wealthy Republican corporate sell-outs care about you or can relate to you in any way? And Sarah may not look like one of them, but she is gunning to be one, believe me. It is Halloween, after all. Don’t be fooled by the disguise!

if bono can make jesse helms ‘riverdance’ -
he can probably make sarah palin belly dance
to ‘mysterious ways’!
mark jaquette @
illustrationism &
bammgraphics !