By Arnab Datta

Sep 3, 2008 8:23pm

Palin to Zing Obama’s ‘Community Organizer’ Days

ABC News’ Teddy Davis and Imtiyaz Delawala report: When Sarah Palin addresses the Republican National Convention on Wednesday evening, she is planning to deflect attacks on her readiness to be vice president, in part, by zinging Sen. Barack Obama’s days as a community organizer.

"I guess a small-town mayor is sort of like a ‘community organizer,’ except that you have actual responsibilities," Palin plans to say, according to excerpts of her remarks which were released to the media.

Obama was elected to the U.S. Senate in 2004 and to the Illinois State Senate in 1996. But he often cites his days as a community organizer, prior to his matriculation at Harvard Law School, as evidence that he understands the concerns of everyday Americans.

"When I listen to another worker tell me that his factory has shut down," Obama said at last week’s Democratic National Convention, "I remember all those men and women on the South Side of Chicago who I stood by and fought for two decades ago after the local steel plant closed."

Prior to Palin’s election as governor of Alaska in 2006, she served as a member of the city council and mayor of her tiny hometown of Wasilla (population 6,700 at the time). During Wednesday night coverage of the Republican convention, the McCain campaign is planning to air a television ad on CNN and Fox, contrasting Palin’s experience with that of Obama.

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http://www.santamonicadispatch.com/?p=572
THis is the Real Sarah Palin

Posted by: Sarah | September 3, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm

excerpts on how sarah ran government”
Her experience is as mayor of a city with a population of about 5,000 (at the time), and less than two years as governor of a state with about 670,000 residents.
During her mayoral administration most of the actual work of running this small city was turned over to an administrator. She had been pushed to hire this administrator by party power brokers after she had gotten herself into some trouble over precipitous firings which had given rise to a recall campaign.
Sarah campaigned in Wasilla as a “fiscal conservative.” During her six years as Mayor, she increased general government expenditures by over 33%. During those same six years the amount of taxes collected by the City increased by 38%. This was during a period of low inflation (1996-2002). She reduced progressive property taxes and increased a regressive sales tax which taxed even food. The tax cuts that she promoted benefited large corporate property owners way more than they benefited residents.

Posted by: revealed | September 3, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm

part 2:
The huge increases in tax revenues during her mayoral administration
weren’t enough to fund everything on her wish list though, borrowed
money was needed, too. She inherited a city with zero debt, but left it with indebtedness of over $22 million. What did Mayor Palin encourage the voters to borrow money for? Was it the infrastructure that she said she supported? The sewage treatment plant that the city lacked? or a new library? No. $1m for a park. $15m-plus for construction of a multi-use sports complex which she rushed through to build on a piece of property that the City didn’t even have clear title to, that was still in litigation seven years later–to the delight of the lawyers involved! The sports complex itself is a nice addition to the community but a huge money pit, not the profit-generator she claimed it would be. She also supported bonds for $5.5m for road projects that could have been done in 5-7 yrs without any borrowing.
While Mayor, City Hall was extensively remodeled and her office redecorated more than once.
These are small numbers, but Wasilla is a very small city.
As an oil producer, the high price of oil has created a budget surplus in Alaska. Rather than invest this surplus in technology that will make us energy independent and increase efficiency, as Governor she proposed distribution of this surplus to every individual in the state.
In this time of record state revenues and budget surpluses, she ecommended that the state borrow/bond for road projects, even while she proposed distribution of surplus state revenues: spend today’s surplus, borrow for needs.
She’s not very tolerant of divergent opinions or open to outside ideas
or compromise. As Mayor, she fought ideas that weren’t generated by her or her staff. Ideas weren’t evaluated on their merits, but on the basis of who proposed them.

Posted by: revealed | September 3, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm

CNN’s Jack Cafferty, a bona-fide Obama sycophant and news hack, recently suggested that McCain “should consider replacing Palin.” This after making his case that she’s a “weak” candidate.
Let’s think about this for a moment.
Why would an Obama supporter insist that an “unqualified” VP candidate on the opposing ticket withdraw? Wouldn’t a weak candidate IMPROVE Obama’s election chances?
It’s rather obvious that Cafferty is absolutely terrified of the game-changing nature Palin’s introduction has had on the race and the damage she’ll do to Obama. Liberals are literally wetting their pants on live TV. The shrillness is through the roof. Hysterical. This irrational behavior, more than anything else, tells me that McCain’s pick was an absolutely BRILLIANT strategy. And I truly believe he knew this would occur. I have my differences with McCain, but the man is a genius.

Posted by: Jim in OH | September 3, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm

part 3
While Sarah was Mayor of Wasilla she tried to fire our highly respected City Librarian because the Librarian refused to consider removing from the library some books that Sarah wanted removed. City residents rallied to the defense of the City Librarian and against Palin’s attempt at out-and-out censorship, so Palin backed down and withdrew her termination letter. People who fought her attempt to oust the Librarian are on her enemies list to this day.
Sarah complained about the “old boy’s club” when she first ran for Mayor, so what did she bring Wasilla? A new set of “old boys”. Palin fired most of the experienced staff she inherited. At the City and as Governor she hired or elevated new, inexperienced, obscure people, creating a staff totally dependent on her for their jobs and eternally grateful and fiercely loyal — loyal to the point of abusing their power to further her personal agenda, as she has acknowledged happened in the case of pressuring the State’s top cop (see below).
As Mayor, Sarah fired Wasilla’s Police Chief because he “intimidated” her, she told the press. As Governor, her recent firing of Alaska’s top cop has the ring of familiarity about it. He served at her pleasure and she had every legal right to fire him, but it’s pretty clear that an important factor in her decision to fire him was because he wouldn’tfire her sister’s ex-husband, a State Trooper. Under investigationfor abuse of power, she has had to admit that more than two dozen contacts were made between her staff and family to the person that she later fired, pressuring him to fire her ex-brother-in-law. She tried to replace the man she fired with a man who she knew had been reprimanded for sexual harassment; when this caused a public furor, she withdrew her support.
She has bitten the hand of every person who extended theirs to her in help. The City Council person who personally escorted her around town introducing her to voters when she first ran for Wasilla City Council became one of her first targets when she was later elected Mayor. She abruptly fired her loyal City Administrator; even people who didn’t like the guy were stunned by this ruthlessness.
Fear of retribution has kept all of these people from saying anything
publicly about her.
When then-Governor Murkowski was handing out political plums, Sarah got the best, Chair of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission: one of the few jobs not in Juneau and one of the best paid. She had no background in oil & gas issues. Within months of scoring this great job which paid $122,400/yr, she was complaining in the press about the high salary. I was told that she hated that job: the commute, the structured hours, the work. Sarah became aware that a member of this Commission (who was also the State Chair of the Republican Party) engaged in unethical behavior on the job. In a gutsy move which some undoubtedly cautioned her could be political suicide, Sarah solved all her problems in one fell swoop: got out of the job she hated andgarnered gobs of media attention as the patron saint of ethics and as gutsy fighter against the “old boys’ club” when she dramatically quit, exposing this man’s ethics violations (for which he was fined)..
As Mayor, she had her hand stuck out as far as anyone for pork from Senator Ted Stevens. Lately, she has castigated his pork-barrel politics and publicly humiliated him. She only opposed the “bridge to nowhere” after it became clear that it would be unwise not to.
As Governor, she gave the Legislature no direction and budget guidelines, then made a big grandstand display of line-item vetoing projects, calling them pork. Public outcry and further legislative action restored most of these projects — which had been vetoed simply because she was not aware of their importance — but with the unobservant she had gained a reputation as “anti-pork”.
She is solidly Republican: no political maverick. The State party leaders hate her because she has bit them in the back and humiliated them. Other members of the party object to her self-description as a fiscal conservative.
Around Wasilla there are people who went to high school with Sarah. They call her “Sarah Barracuda” because of her unbridled ambition and predatory ruthlessness. Before she became so powerful, very ugly stories circulated around town about shenanigans she pulled to be made point guard on the high school basketball team. When Sarah’s mother-in-law, a highly respected member of the community and experienced manager, ran for Mayor, Sarah refused to endorse her.
As Governor, she stepped outside of the box and put together a package
of legislation known as “AGIA” that forced the oil companies to march to the beat of her drum.
Like most Alaskans, she favors drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. She has questioned if the loss of sea ice is linked to global warming. She campaigned “as a private citizen” against a state initiative that would have either a) protected salmon streams from pollution from mines, or b) tied up in the courts all mining in the state (depending on who you listen to). She has pushed the State’s lawsuit against the Dept. of the Interior’s decision to list polar bears as threatened species.

Posted by: revealed | September 3, 2008, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm

revealed, nice smear piece on Palin. Obama paying you to post lies again? Unfortunately, it doesn’t jibe with the ACTUAL record or the experiences of her constituents, who give her the highest approval rating of any governor in the country. Oddly, your smear piece also doesn’t seem to mention her ability to take down corrupt politicians in her own party. You know, things that actually matter to people sick of corrupt politicians. Like Obama, for example.

Posted by: Jim in OH | September 3, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm

The media has changed from a news source to a bias tabloid.
Democrat for Palin/McCain

Posted by: Lance | September 3, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm

so was the media a new source rather than a biased tabloid when it ran 24/7 7 days a week coverage on Rev Wright, ayers, patriotism crap, etc?

Posted by: revealed | September 3, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm

Smear job? This is factual and documented. YOu would have had to know this if Palin was vetted.

Posted by: revealed | September 3, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm

Thank you, revealed for your extensive copying from whatever the source is. It seems that OB and Sarah, both have quite some baggage, each of his or of her own. The difference is OB runs for president seat and Sarah is for the vice-president seat. Evidently, you have chosen your own poison. So be it.

Posted by: mtr2311 | September 3, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm

Can you provide more information against Obama? I bet you can’t. Do you know Why he voted present instead of yes and no? or Why he took house from Rezko when there were so many real estate agents in the market?

Posted by: Tim | September 3, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm

Abbreviated from Gerard Baker – Times of London… let’s compare the two candidates:
Obama: Worked his way to the top by cultivating, pandering to and stroking the most powerful interest groups in the all-pervasive Chicago political machine, ensuring his views were aligned with the power brokers there.
Palin: Worked her way to the top by challenging, attacking and actively undermining the Republican party establishment in her native Alaska. She ran against incumbent Republicans as a candidate willing and able to clean the Augean Stables of her state’s government.
Political Biography
Obama: A classic, if unusually talented, greasy-pole climber. Held a succession of jobs that constitute the standard route to the top in his party’s internal politics: “community organizer”, law professor, state senator.
Palin:A woman with a wide range of interests in a well-variegated life. Held a succession of jobs – sports journalist, commercial fisherwoman, state oil and gas commissioner, before entering local politics. A resume that suggests something other than burning political ambition from the cradle but rather the sort of experience that enables her to understand the concerns of most Americans.
Political history
Obama: Elected to statewide office only after a disastrous first run for a congressional seat and after his Republican opponent was exposed in a sexual scandal. Won seat eventually in contest against a candidate who didn’t even live in the state.
Palin: Elected to statewide office by challenging a long-serving Republican incumbent governor despite intense opposition from the party.
Executive experience
Obama: Makes executive decisions every day that affect the lives of his campaign staff and a vast crowd of traveling journalists
Palin:Makes executive decisions every day that affect the lives of 500,000 people in her state, and that impact crucial issues of national economic interest such as the supply and cost of energy to the United States.
Bottom line: Palin as Veep is more qualified than the Dems pick.

Posted by: Diamond Lou | September 3, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm

–revealed– Do you live in Alaska or have any real knowledge of Alaska. I believe most of your spewing is none sense.
I lived in Alaska and know Wailla quite well. These projects were not her ideas but were voted on by the residents, OK. Get your facts straight and get off the Obama band wagon.

Posted by: Mary | September 3, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm

Dont go there Miss Wa-Silly

Posted by: Omentum | September 3, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm

Diamond Lou,
Revert back to passages 1, 2, and 3.
This is the real Palin, and noone knows her better than the folks from her home town and state, no like someone blowing smoke in some London crap.

Posted by: revealed | September 3, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm

don’t take my word for it
KARL ROVE’S BRILLIANT ANALYSIS…..
Republican strategist Karl Rove said on Face The Nation Sunday that he expects presumptive Democratic nominee Barack Obama to choose a running mate based on political calculations, not the person’s readiness for the job.
“I think he’s going to make an intensely political choice, not a governing choice,” Rove said. “He’s going to view this through the prism of a candidate, not through the prism of president; that is to say, he’s going to pick somebody that he thinks will on the margin help him in a state like Indiana or Missouri or Virginia. He’s not going to be thinking big and broad about the responsibilities of president.”
Rove singled out Virginia governor Tim Kaine, also a Face The Nation guest, as an example of such a pick.
“With all due respect again to Governor Kaine, he’s been a governor for three years, he’s been able but undistinguished,” Rove said. “I don’t think people could really name a big, important thing that he’s done. He was mayor of the 105th largest city in America.”
Rove continued: “So if he were to pick Governor Kaine, it would be an intensely political choice where he said, `You know what? I’m really not, first and foremost, concerned with, is this person capable of being president of the United States.”
Yes, the real problem with Tim Kaine is that he’s only been governor of a large state for three years, and before that, he was only the mayor of a mid-size city. This, of course, made him “undistinguished,” unprepared for national office, and the very idea of putting him on a national ticket was practically ridiculous.
Thanks, Karl.
edit: facts to ponder:
Alaska 670,000
Virginia 7,643,000
Wasilla, Alaska(palin was mayor) Population in July 2007: 9,780
As of 2007, the city of Richmond,Virginia (kaine was mayor) estimated population is 200,123

Posted by: Omentum | September 3, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm

Sarah has EXECTUTIVE experience *running a government* (something NONE of the other candidates can actually boast, even John McCain as Governor of Alaska and got there by defeating the *incumbent* Republican Governor, who was definitely part of the “old school” and who WAS very much in the pocket of the big oil companies. We in Alaska wanted change – and we got it in the person of Sarah Palin!
Sarah Palin is everything she looks to be and more. Her approval rating as Governor of Alaska has been as high as 95% and is currently leveled out consistently in the upper 80 percentile throughout the state (and in both parties) – the HIGHEST approval rating of ANY sitting Governor.

Posted by: GoUSA247 | September 3, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm

Palin and her family have been smeared relentlessly by the hard left and nearly the entire mainstream media this past week. McCain really caught them off guard and they are livid. Obama could have chosen a woman VP, but decided instead to go with a six-term Senator to represent his message of “change.” Since the announcement of Palin, the left sensed the damage this would cause and has become completely unhinged. Obama operatives are actively planting smears and talking points on multiple left wing blogs. Anything that terrifies the left is something we need much more of. Palin connects with common, decent people. She’s an extremely smart and popular governor who is fiercely independent and fights corruption wherever she sees it.
The real unknown is not Palin, who already has an impressive record of accomplishments. The unknown is Obama. What do we really know about him beyond his rhetoric at the Temple of Zeus? Nothing. He’s a man with a murky past who the media purposely protects and promotes. He is an unprincipled elitist whose world views have been shaped by communists, socialists, terrorists, indicted fundraisers, anti-American preachers, and Chicago thugs. But somehow those associations aren’t newsworthy. Palin’s pregnant daughter! Her husband’s 22-year old DUI! Now those are important to our country’s future! The press has spent much more effort in the past week digging up dirt on Palin than they ever spent unraveling Obama’s past and connections to radical organizations (like ACORN, the masters of voter fraud…going on right now in Milwaukee, in fact) in the past 19 months!
I’ll make a prediction. If by some fit of insanity Americans do elect Obama, you will quickly see a case of buyer’s remorse unprecedented in our history. I’ve done a lot of research on Obama and his policies (since the media refuses to) and he is not who people think he is. He will, in lockstep with incompetent fools like Pelosi and Reid, run our wonderful country straight into the ground in short order. Mark my words.

Posted by: Jim in OH | September 3, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm

These are all documented. The Alaskan Democratic Opposition Research team had released a 67 page report that had been done on Palin.
Should tell your candidate that he should have made a wise judgment call and vetted his pick so she would not have to be vetted in front of the world.

Posted by: revealed | September 3, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm

Guys, please give Revealed some credit for spendimg a lot of time to copy articles from some National Inquirers or such. That effort should not go un-noticed. Revealed drinks her or his own kool-aid not mine or yours. Just do not get too high now, Revealed. Kool-aid is Kool-aid, Reps or Libs!

Posted by: mtr2311 | September 3, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm

Jack Cafferty is a closet homo and total sexist….stopped watching CNN because of him…they need to sack him.
Palin Rocks, so did Hillary and McCain the Maverick GOT IT RIGHT…..DEMS DIDN’T!

Posted by: Debra | September 3, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm

Joe Biden on Obama: “I think he can be ready, but right now I don’t believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training.”

Posted by: Jim in OH | September 3, 2008, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm

I think maybe she should have been careful about all the backs she stabbed or stepped on, because it seems like a lot of humming birds are beginning to sing.
Be careful how you treat people.

Posted by: Watch who you step on | September 3, 2008, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm

Palin is making fun of someone being a community organizer? What a joke. What was she doing? Right, member of the PTA. Nice.
And why is no one calling McCain out on this “executive experience” argument? They are essentially saying that she is more qualified than McCain!
If this backwoods country buys this gimmick, it deserves to wallow in the mire that is sure to result.

Posted by: What an A-hole | September 3, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm

More stuff on Palin which outlines information that I have document on this blog for the world to see:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13084.html

Posted by: Watch who you step on | September 3, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm

once again, sarah palin proves her ignorance by not knowing what a community organizer does and the many thankless hours they endure–the amount of organizational and “executive” skills they must possess to carry out their job/mission. so much for her being a “woman of the people.”
no, that’s okay republican lemmings, please vote for mccain and palin and give us more of the same from these “mavericks.”

Posted by: BRC | September 3, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm

Debra—-Interesting that you refer to someone as a “closet homo” while calling others sexist. Bigot.

Posted by: TBR | September 3, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm

Mary…this Mary disputes your “facts”. Sarah Palin and her buddy Ted Stevens worked Alaskan politics together. She is no maverick. She is no saint. She is a fraud.

Posted by: Mary | September 3, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm

Debra, I never was a fan of Hillary primarily because of her policies. However, what the Obama campaign and their surrogates did to her was absolutely unforgivable. Now we’re witnessing an even more vicious character assassination attempt on Palin. It’s disgusting and beyond the pale. And even more disturbing, this provides us with a preview of the types of thug tactics we Americans can expect during an Obama administration. It’s Chicago-style politics on a national scale. Obama has clearly demonstrated his brand of “change.” That should send chills down all our spines.

Posted by: Jim in OH | September 3, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm

Smearing helped Obama to get Hillary out of his way.
It will be interesting to see How far Obama will go in this election?

Posted by: Tim | September 3, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm

I would like for Revealed to google American Issues Project and please copy the whole articles about OB’s camp pressured the Dept of Justice to prosecute the donors of the AIP for supporting the freedom of speech regarding Wllliams Ayres, the unrepented terrorist and OB relationship.

Posted by: mtr2311 | September 3, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm

What Barack Obama learned from the Communist Party
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/07/what_barack_obama_learned_from.html

Posted by: Jim in OH | September 3, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm

Please tell how figuring out how many light poles the town needed or man hole covers replaced or whether to put in a sewer system instead of using septic tanks, must have been monumental decision making on Palin’s part. Enough to make her qualified to be VP. She is as significant as a fart in a space suit.

Posted by: depravedmaniac | September 3, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm

how is the media biased in this?
soooo when obama was under the same scrutiny about who he was, was he exotic, what does he believe… that wasnt sexist.. that was fine
but when an unknown, unvetted vp pick is thrust into the spot light, why cant the media ask her questions?
we are right to ask her questions…
and JIM IN OH i dont know why you are confusing hte media with the obama campaign… obamas camp has done nothing to her… they stood up for her, but maybe thats sexist too
the simple fact is, sara palin was a terribly quick unvettted decision by mccain and he is paying hte price…
i hope the media continues to vet her because from what i hear we shouldnt have this unqualified lady anywhere near the presidency

Posted by: bhrandon | September 3, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm

Tim, don’t blame it on Obama,
he wasn’t in Alaska when she was f’ing up the city and government. He didn’t tell her to lie about being for the bridge to nowhere before she was against it, oh, i can go on and on…

Posted by: Watch who you step on | September 3, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm

Take a long gander at the Republican audienc at this so call convention. If you see anyone not on Social Security your the only one who has. I’ll bet the drinks on the floor are a combination of Geritol & Prune juice.

Posted by: Saddlesablazing | September 3, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm

Jim in OH…Sarah Palin knowingly walked her family into arena with the lions. I feel bad for her children because they had no choice. I have no pity for her. She knew what was coming.

Posted by: Mary | September 3, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm

saddleblazing
thanx for making me chuckle..i needed it to cool my temper and unbelievable disgust from the trainwreck that is McCain Palin

Posted by: Watch who you step on | September 3, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm

It was bloggers from Alaska that brought all this information on Palin to the attention of the rest of the country not the news media FYI.

Posted by: Ernest T Bass | September 3, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm

One of the most damaging long-standing associations Obama has is with ACORN–a radical group he worked with in his “community organizing” days and implicated as a contributor to the subprime mortgage meltdown and rampant voter fraud, including recent fraud documented in Lousisiana and Wisconsin.
Google “Democrats’ Vote Drive in Louisiana Stirs Concern”
and “10 more voter registration workers face investigation”
MSM’s reaction: ” Let’s get Palin! She has a pregnant daughter!”

Posted by: Jim in OH | September 3, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm

Republican woman, stay away from me. Republican woman, mama let me be. Don’t come hangin’ around my door. I don’t wanna see your face no more. I got more important things to do. Than spend my time growin’ old with you. I don’t need your war machines. I don’t need your beauty queens. Northern lights can hypnotize. Sparkle someone else’s eyes. Goodbye, Republican woman. Goodbye, Republican chick. Goodbye, Republican broad … (Adapted from The Guess Who’s American Woman)

Posted by: hamishdad | September 3, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm

Your most welcom Watch who you step on, I’m still waiting for the return of the Republican party that existed prior to Nixon’s resignation, when those middle of the road Republican retake the party I will come home.

Posted by: Saddlesablazing | September 3, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm

Character witnesses for McCain -almost everyone who speaks including former Dem VP candidate Lieberman and current Dem VP candidate Joe Biden (I would be honored to run with John MCCain).
How many character witnesses did Obama have at his convention.-zero. Even Hillary talked about a generic Democrat.

Posted by: geevill | September 3, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm

To Watch who you step on: Lets talk about Obama’s adventure Where will we start: Do you want to start with Ayer? or Do you want start with Rezko or Do you want to talk about why he voted Present or Do you want talk about his judgement on Iraq or do you want to talk about his experience as Campaign Executive or as his Community Organizer(Even a company CEO or a district Manager has more money and people to manage ask any corporate Execs)

Posted by: Tim | September 3, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm

bhrandon, you can’t be serious. Do you know anything about Chicago politicians and their tactics? I spent time in that city. They have a long history of regularly smearing opponents and destroying them. They plant smears in ways that can’t be traced. You can bet Obama’s campaign was and continues to be involved in smearing Palin through their surrogates. And I’m not a conspiracy theorist. It’s the way those thugs operate.

Posted by: Jim in OH | September 3, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm

You all need to listen to what Ron Reagan Jr has to say about this McCain Palin ticket. Says volumes Nancy Reagan isn’t at the convention, volumes……

Posted by: ronnieraygun | September 3, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm

Jim in Ohio,
do you really want to talk about voter registration fraud? Your party? the Republican party that stole the presidency from Gore? The party that evolved from old time “Southern Democrats” in the 60′s who were mad as hell that “nig***” were getting a right to vote so they beat them and instituted literacy tests, and poll taxes to block them from voting that they switched parties and declared themselves the Republicans that we have today??
Go sit down, dude

Posted by: Watch who you step on | September 3, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm

To those of you going off about Cafferty:
How do you respond to the news that many prominent Republicans, including Ronald Reagans son, don’t think Palin is ready for the job?
Also, while the rest of the CNN news team were busy digging into the pregnancy story, Cafferty focused on the other, real issues surrounding Palin. You should at least give him some credit for that.

Posted by: El_Pajaro | September 3, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm

We can talk about Wright also or we can talk about Michelle Obama who was not proud of America. I forgot to metntion these earlier. Smearing can be done.

Posted by: Tim | September 3, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm

Tim, you are talking about sh** that has been debunked in the media long ago. It just the racist repugs who wants to see America go backwards that keep bringing it up because they can’t find real things on Obama. Oh believe it, they were digging deeply and still are, and that is the best they can come up with.
The media has passed on McCain, but they are sure vetting the hell out of Sarah..good for them

Posted by: Watch who you step on | September 3, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm

revealed, Palin’s political enemies, some of whom she probably helped take down, write opposition research on her to smear her. And you post it and actually believe it as truth. Wow, you must be new to politics.

Posted by: Jim in OH | September 3, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm

If Palin wants to play hardball, I hope Obama/Biden give it to her. I am sick and tired of everyone saying they need to “be careful” of how they handle her! If she wants to be in the big league, then she’d better toughen up her skin and take her shots the way everyone else has to! What’s sexist to me is the absurd insistence of Republicans that she has to be treated with kid gloves–please!! The woman is vying for the vice Presidency and she needs to be tough. Russia isn’t going to treat her like a china doll!

Posted by: realitycheck | September 3, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm

Cafferty has lost his ability to judge properly. So, don’t take him seriously. Let him jump up and down and let him say what he want to say.

Posted by: Tim | September 3, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm

Why is she poking at Obama. She is not running against him. Already gone to her head and thinks she is the Presidential candidate. Not surprising knowing that Old MCCain is close to being called home by the Almighty. This is one dangerously ambitious woman; NS mbition is horrible when you are not qualified!

Posted by: Sarah2 | September 3, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm

Media is not the “Complete Truth”. These things can be brought again and hammered to people the same way Obama will try to do with Palin.

Posted by: Tim | September 3, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm

Yeah, she should have been careful about the people she used, fired, lied on, and treated like crap.
All the information recovered are facts and is documented well. No smears…just truth.
America is not standing for this. We have way too much to lose.
She is unVice Presidential and McCain does not have the Judgment that America needs in these perilous times.
Vet on media

Posted by: Watch who you step on | September 3, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm

Watch who you step on, the media is not “vetting” her. She is a threat to their ideology and they are smearing her via character assasination and vicious personal attacks on her family, including her children. Many of these details are immaterial regarding her ability to govern and they go way beyond the norms of decency. Fair-minded Americans across the country are rightly outraged. I’d love to see your reaction if they did this to Obama and his family. You’d scream bloody murder.

Posted by: Jim in OH | September 3, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm

Anyone who has the guts to go after the crooks who have had their hands in tax payers pockets for years is going to be slam-dunked. Their money machine ran out of dollars. Some members of the Alaska Democratic Opposition Research team are being investigated too.
More federal money goes from Alaska to Washington than Alaska gets back so why should Alaska not get their fair share? Exception, the military has three very large bases there.

Posted by: Mary | September 3, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm

Obama should jump up and down if the Mc Cain has selected unVice Presidential candidates and move on. The truth is you Obama folks and Media thinks that she is trully a VP candidate and she eclipsed the Obama’s experience and trying hard to get rid of her the same way you folks did with Clinton.

Posted by: Tim | September 3, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm

I’m through talking to some of you uniformed folks. You are beneath me. I’ve said my piece and I’m moving on.

Posted by: Watch who you step on | September 3, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm

Put a neocon script in front of Palin and watch her lips move. God help us.

Posted by: hamishdad | September 3, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm

Watch who you step on, so because voter fraud has occurred in the past, we should just ignore it now when Obama’s Dem operatives perpetrate it via his ACORN associates? Are you not aware that these are serious federal crimes? Have people gone completely insane? ALL VOTER FRAUD SHOULD BE EXPOSED AND PROSECUTED.

Posted by: Jim in OH | September 3, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm

Palin isw not fit to be VP.

Posted by: leche | September 3, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm

Jim in Oh if this had been a Democrat’s problem your people would be smearing them to the moon so get off your soap box you’ve no room to talk and you know it.

Posted by: ronnieraygun | September 3, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm

1.If Washighton is broken, why hasn’t McCain fixed it in all his years there?
2.Neither a woman or a man ‘has it all’when they work, have families,have homes/apartments – children need a parent – Is Mr. Palin going to be the full-time parent of 5 children? Can Mrs. Palin be away from all her children – one newborn with special needs and one having a child of her own? on a regular basis?
3. Do politicians really believe women are so shallow and stupid to vote for someone just because their is a female candidate?
4. What political party has provided ‘welfare’ to corporations? (
chrysler, Fannie Mae?? Left a budget deficit when he had a balanced budget to start with? What political party keeps using
5. Who of the candidates would qualify for the CEO of GE? Exon? GMC? Microsoft?

Posted by: pathways | September 3, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm

rudy the dufus
get off the stage

Posted by: Omentum | September 3, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm

if washington is broke why is the hell will we want to elect 90% of the problem again.
sorry
8 is enough

Posted by: Omentum | September 3, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm

rudy the dufus
rudy the dufus

Posted by: Omentum | September 3, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm

john mccain really knows about foreign policy. he is so out of touch with america its like he a foreign citizen.

Posted by: Omentum | September 3, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm

senator palin??
rudy you are the weakest link

Posted by: Omentum | September 3, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm

ronnieraygun, who are “my people”? You don’t even know my politics or background. Have you seen ANY group openly attacking Obama’s children or questioning Obama’s ability to effectively father his children on 24/7 news cycles? It is absolutely disgusting what the radical left has done this week. There is no justification for it. None. I don’t care what you think of Palin’s politics. There is a thing called human decency. There is a line. And people across the political spectrum are outraged. Don’t believe me? Read the online Hillary forums.

Posted by: Jim in OH | September 3, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm

I LOVE IT!!!!! BYE BYE, DEMWITS!!!!!
MCCAIN/PALIN 08!
COUNTRY FIRST!

Posted by: david from texas | September 3, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm

Thank you, Omentum, for watching the next Vice President of the United States!!!!!
McCain/Palin 08!
Country First!

Posted by: david from texas | September 3, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm

THE RNC TONIGHT LOOKED LIKE A HILLBILLY
FAMILY REUNION. I REALLY NEEDED A GOOD
LAUGH! POOR REPULICANS! PLEASENT
DREAMS TONIGHT! BOO

Posted by: JEFF W | September 3, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm

MAN, SHE IS RIPPIN OBAMA A NEW ONE!!!!!

Posted by: david from texas | September 3, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm

sarah Palin is inexperienced in what she does. she abused her power in alaska becaue of some personal vendetta. who knows if she is going to do the same in the white house. macain and palin support Goerge W Bush who has the lowest popularity rating in the country. nobody wants the same as bush. her pregnant daughter to say the least is a sad case in the eyes of the church.

Posted by: kyle | September 3, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm

Wow! I bet Obama’s ass is as raggedy as a bowl of Chinese spaghetti right about now!
LMAO!!! :D
PUMA!
McCain/Palin 2008 – In lieu of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Posted by: LeeLee07 | September 3, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm

WOW – WAY TO GO SARAH AND RUDY!!! OUTSTANDING!!! ABSOLUTLY, TWO HOME RUN SPEECHES!!!

Posted by: Manitu | September 3, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm

Kyle
It’s over. Sarah and Rudy just knocked Obama out of the box!!!

Posted by: Temagami | September 3, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm

That tingling Chris Matthews is feeling is cr*p running down his leg. Palin nailed it. Prediction: Obama’s camp will now go predictably negative to belittle her now that she made their candidate look like the empty suit he is. I’m also pretty sure they’re not happy about her “styrofoam columns” remark. Priceless.

Posted by: Jim in OH | September 3, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm

No wonder loons are doing their best to trash Gov. Palin!!! AFTER TONIGHT THEY GOTTA BE SCARED!! BYE, BYE, Obama. Looks like it’s over!!!!!

Posted by: Jimbo | September 3, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm

Palin tore Obama apart. Wow, Amazing.

Posted by: Grand Old Party | September 3, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm

MAN, SHE IS RIPPIN OBAMA A NEW ONE!!!!!
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Yes she is. So did Giuliani. But they left out all the facts and lied about everything. Ya know, Obama turned down a big money Wall Street job to be a community organizer. They make Obama look like he’s a community organizer running for president. It’s funny she mentioned terrorists because she don’t know anything about it. If you look at Obama’s education you can see he’s pretty smart.
====== Education ======
===== Undergraduate =====
**Occidental College**, Los Angeles, CA\\
Undergraduate, 1981-1983
**Columbia University**\\
B.A. Political Science with specialization in international relations \\
Thesis topic: Soviet nuclear disarmament
===== Graduate =====
**Harvard Law School** \\
J.D. //magna cum laude//
1988-1991
President, Harvard Law Review
====== Organizing and other work experience ======
* **1983-1984** Writer/Researcher for Business International Corporation. Helped companies understand overseas markets in the “Financing Foreign Operations” service and wrote for the “Business International Money Report”
* **1984-1985** Community Organizer for New York Public Interest Research Group (PIRG), promoting personal, community, and government reform at City College in Harlem.
* **1985-1988** Director of the Developing Communities Project (DCP), a church-based community organization originally comprising eight Catholic parishes in Greater Roseland on Chicago’s South Side. While director grew the DCP staff from 1 to 13 and their budget from $70,000 to $400,000.
* **1992** Led Chicago’s Project Vote! push. This effort resulted in a record number of voter registrations, over 600,000 in Chicago. ((http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/January-1993/Vote-of-Confidence/))
====== Teaching ======
* **1993-2004** Visiting Law and Government Fellow, then Senior Lecturer, in Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago Law School. Taught courses on the due process and equal protection areas of constitutional law, on voting rights, and on racism and law. Helped develop a casebook on voting rights.
====== Law Practice =====
* **1993-2002** Worked as an associate attorney with Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland. Represented non-profits and private individuals in urban development projects, voting rights cases, and wrongful firings. Filed major suit that forced the state of Illinois to enforce the Motor Voter Law and successfully argued a wrongful firing case before the U.S. 7th Circuit Court of Appeals.
====== Illinois Senate 1996-2004 ======
* chairman, Health and Human Services Committee
* Spearheaded a successful bipartisan effort in Illinois to pass the broadest ethics-reform legislation by any state in 25 years, and also gained bipartisan support for his successful bills reforming death penalty interrogations and ending racial profiling by police. Worked with the Republican-led effort to reform welfare
* Also sponsored successful bills expanding tax credits and child-care subsidies for low-income working families, protecting overtime pay for workers, expanding health care for children, and providing job skills training for juveniles
===== ====== Sponsored Bill Statistics ====== =====
* Number of sponsored bills: 65
* Number of sponsored bills passed: 0
* Number of co-sponsored bills 364
* Number of co-sponsored bills passed: 5
http://www.opencongress.org (9/3/2008—-dankster keeps taking this out for some reason)
====== United States Senate 2004-present ======
* Member, Senate Foreign Relations Committee
* Chairman, Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee on European Affairs
* Member, Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions
* Member, Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs
* Member, Senate Committee on Veterans’ Affairs
* Shares responsibility for the bipartisan __Coburn-Obama Federal Funding Accountability and Transparency Act of 2006__, requiring full online disclosure of all entities receiving federal funds, and the bipartisan __Lugar-Obama Cooperative Proliferation Detection, Interdiction Assistance, and Conventional Threat Reduction Act of 2006__, deepening non-proliferation work with WMD and including surface-to-air missiles, land mines, and other weapons that may be used by terrorists

Posted by: HemiHead | September 3, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm

Gov. Palin stole my line. “She has more executive experience than Obama and Biden put together!!” I posted that last night!!

Posted by: Jimbo | September 3, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm

Observations about Palin’s speech tonight:
1. Good job in front on friendly audience. Needs to keep it up.
2. Doesn’t really understand how Washington works – like you can’t line item veto things you don’t want – but who cares.
3. She was gonna tell me what the Alaska governor does then forgot. Don’t bring up ‘bridge to nowhere’ – that’s Ted Stevens’ mess.
4. Like the hockey mom vs. pitbull joke.
5. Too many frickin Obama-like platitudes. They basically lifted one of his dumb speeches from early on and added a few jabs.
6. I think she has minimal understanding of how the economy works outside of Alaska.
Overall a nice job, but I’m left feeling that she’s hopelessly underprepared and unready to be #2 on the ticket. She’s polarizing the left a bit too much in a way that will make them more likely to vote. She’s also a little to cavalier distorting facts considering that she’s only been on the scene for a few days.
Still should’ve picked Romney, Hutchinson or someone with more experience.

Posted by: 1percenter | September 3, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm

Jimbo: your “line” has been a talking point since last week. Sorry.

Posted by: 1percenter | September 3, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm

I love what Palin said about Obama in this statement:
“The American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of ‘personal discovery.’ This world of threats and dangers is not just a community, and it doesn’t just need an organizer,” Palin said, a clear reference to Obama’s time as a community organizer in Chicago.
McCain/Palin 08!
Country First!

Posted by: david from texas | September 3, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm

Watching the talking heads on MSNBC and they are NOT pleased about the “mockery” of their Messiah. The women, especially, are barely able to contain their anger. They can barely speak. I’m so enjoying this. They weren’t sure before, but they KNOW they’re in trouble now. She exuded charisma, a direct connection to her audience, delivered a substantive pro-American message, and had the poise of a down-to-earth leader. Expect the left to become even more unhinged tomorrow! That’ll tell you all you need to know.

Posted by: Jim in OH | September 3, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm

attention fanboys/girls: remember the whole argument against obama was speeches? she just gave one speech that was relieving but also demonstrated that she’s not ready. i think i was groaning like everyone there when she listed the PTA as qualifying experience to be second-in-line to the Presidency.
imagine for a moment what happens if someone more experienced actually gave the VP speech. it would’ve been over. instead it’s a roll of the dice…

Posted by: 1percenter | September 3, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm

HemiHead.
“Sarah and Rudi lied about everything.”
Typical lib response – you knew they were going to hit home runs so your prepared that piece of junk to post. Sad – looks bad for your man. Sorry.

Posted by: Jimbo | September 3, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm

1percenter
Sounds like you’re trying to convince yourself!!

Posted by: Jimbo | September 3, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm

She exuded charisma, a direct connection to her audience, delivered a substantive pro-American message, and had the poise of a down-to-earth leader. Expect the left to become even more unhinged tomorrow! That’ll tell you all you need to know.
Posted by: Jim in OH | Sep 3, 2008 11:43:32 PM
I totally agree. The DemWits don’t know how to deal with Palin. She came out swinging….I am going to LOVE to watch her bring down Big Mouth Biden in a debate. This woman ROCKS!!!!

Posted by: david from texas | September 3, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm

I am trying to convince myself that she’s not ruinous. yes.

Posted by: 1percenter | September 3, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm

Palin was right to jump in there and take on the media. They have been pro Obama 80 percent of the time. He was the “golden child”, the “messiah”, the Jim Jones of the 21st century…..Palin has cajones and the DemWits have a fight on their hands!

Posted by: TJ | September 3, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm

David/TX
Agree, ‘Prepared’ beats ‘personal discovery’ all day long. It’s over!!

Posted by: Manitu | September 3, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm

I am so glad that even though my favorite, Hillary, is not the nominee, that Palin is. She is a wonderful example for women everywhere! I caught myself during her speech, yelling, standing up, calling my friends….it was wonderful!
Can’t wait to go to the beauty shop tomorrow! I have a feeling that many, many undecided voters will go with McCain/Palin this year!
Independent for McCain/Palin!

Posted by: angie | September 3, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm

Libs hate two major groups: Strong conservative women and strong conservative blacks. WHY? Libs have a very difficult problem admitting that they even exist AND…. given a chance, members of those two groups will win converts, cutting into the lib base. THAT’S WHY THEY ARE HATED AND EXPLAINS THE IRRATIONAL, HATE POSTS AS ON A SITE LIKE THIS – EXPLAINS A LOT!!

Posted by: Manitu | September 4, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am

See, that’s what I’m talking about: when crazied Hillary supporters start talking about jumping on board I start thinking that I’m in the wrong place. I don’t agree with Hillary on practically anything, including my choice of whiskey.

Posted by: 1percenter | September 4, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am

Daisy Mae, Hockey Mom, President of the PTA and folksy cutesy are an insult as a role model to Women. She bats her eyes, swoons and laughs just like a little girl does when she’s trying to borrow the car from Daddy. Get this bimbo out of here.

Posted by: seenitallx9 | September 4, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am

Jeff.
Actually, a hillbilly get-together is something you need to see for yourself – expand your horizons – might help you to understand about people that value religion and guns!! Nah.. on the other hand….

Posted by: Manitu | September 4, 2008, 12:09 am 12:09 am

seenitallx9.
Honey, It’s going to take a lot more than your low life garbage to bring this little lady down.

Posted by: Manitu | September 4, 2008, 12:12 am 12:12 am

Can’t wait to see what McCain’s media uncovers about Sarah tomorrow. Maybe they’ll lift the coverup so we can see who she really is. Her own mother in law doesn’t support her….hmm think she knows something?

Posted by: seenitallx9 | September 4, 2008, 12:14 am 12:14 am

HemiHead.
“Sarah and Rudi lied about everything.”
Typical lib response – you knew they were going to hit home runs so your prepared that piece of junk to post. Sad – looks bad for your man. Sorry.
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I didn’t prepare nothing. I cut that from Obama’s resume. Here’s something else I just cut.
Mr. Giuliani, the former New York City mayor, began making the argument early Wednesday. “Barack Obama has never governed a city, never governed a state, never governed an agency, never run a military unit, never run anything,” Mr. Giuliani said on the CBS “Early Show” in an interview the McCain campaign sent to reporters.
If his formulation sounded a little familiar, it is because it was one of the few criticisms that Mr. Giuliani aimed at Mr. McCain during the heat of their primary fight, saying that he had “never run a city, never run a state, never run a government.” So, is this typical liberal bull. Or republican lies.

Posted by: HemiHead | September 4, 2008, 12:14 am 12:14 am

seenitallx9.
Honey, It’s going to take a lot more than your low life garbage to bring this little lady down.
Posted by: Manitu | Sep 4, 2008 12:12:59 AM
I agree with you on that, Manitu!
McCain/Palin 08!
Country First!

Posted by: david from texas | September 4, 2008, 12:15 am 12:15 am

Manitu
You said it little lady. I rest my case.

Posted by: seenitallx9 | September 4, 2008, 12:16 am 12:16 am

Sorry Manitu
I forgot the quotation marks around “little lady” from your own words.

Posted by: seenitallx9 | September 4, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am

seenitallx9
If that is your best put-down of Gov. Palin, from what I saw and heard tonight you are going to have to expand your arsenal – LIKE MAYBE ACTUALLY DISCUSSING SOME REAL ISSUES!!

Posted by: Manitu | September 4, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am

1percenter, I disagree. Many Americans are absolutely exhausted hearing elitist, multi-term gasbags in Washington drone on and on about new ways to squander our tax dollars and further grow government while enriching themselves. They always “know” what’s best for us without consulting us. People are numb and feel powerless to change our broken system. They’re hungering for positive leaders who listen to them and have the proven ability to reform and shake up Washington. Palin reminds me of a lot of women business leaders I know here in the Midwest. They’re down-to-earth and disarming, but extremely competent and tough as nails when focused on business. What politician these days has an 80% approval rating from his or her constituents? Palin obviously does what her people expect her to do. That ability to truly listen to your constituents and then execute, while being fiscally responsible, is an extremely rare trait these days. It’s exactly the type of leadership we deserve and have lacked for many years. And all the entrenched politicians in the pockets of lobbyists won’t like it one bit.

Posted by: Jim in OH | September 4, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am

here’s what worries me: i think the attacks on Palin thus far have not come from the dems, but rather conservatives who were hoping to scare her out of the race. obviously that didn’t happen. the dems are gonna have a lot of ammo on her and i’m not sure she’ll come off too well without the teleprompter (Obama-itis). likewise, the dems are too smart to have the men attack her – you’re gonna see every woman democrat in the next few weeks start knocking Palin and she won’t be able to say ‘sexism sexism sexism’ (isn’t that a democrat line anyway?)

Posted by: 1percenter | September 4, 2008, 12:22 am 12:22 am

seenitallx9.
Indefinite… Are you saying that size matters or doesn’t matter?

Posted by: Manitu | September 4, 2008, 12:23 am 12:23 am

Do you really want the president of the PTA running our country when the old guy kicks the bucket? Yes, there will be issues and it won’t be whether the town needs the 11th traffic light or should they use the the town hall for the Christmas party instead of the new sports complex. Running Mayberry is much different than running our country. Known facts: McCain is 72 and a heartbeat away from dementia as we’ve seen. POW’s life span is shorter than most people for the abuse they suffered. He’s had cancer in the recent past. He’s hot headed and doesn’t care how long a war lasts. He’s Republican just like GW and got us into this mess. She’s his soulmate…need I say more. I work in a senior park and 72 year olds around here are scared for him to be elected. He’ll be 80 if he gets reelected. His decision for running mate shows his stupidity. There were other women he could have asked. Pawlenty also would have been wonderful. But leaving the country in his hands…you have to be kidding.

Posted by: seenitallx9 | September 4, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am

Jim in OH: no question the democrats want to spend our money. the problem is the current republicans have been wasting it even more. so, my problem with her Obama-like speech is that she gives nothing on how to slow spending. First, you can’t veto “earmarks” like she suggests because there are no line-item vetos. Second, even if you do get rid of ALL earmarks – the government still goes broke because of Medicare and Social Security. Third, a ‘tax credit’ is not a substitute for health insurance and its rising costs which is really crippling businesses much like high fuel prices. So, tonight I didn’t hear much of anything, maybe there’s more meat there – but when the economy is the number 1 thing people care about this year, I would stress that more in the VP pick…

Posted by: 1percenter | September 4, 2008, 12:27 am 12:27 am

Jesus was a community organizer.

Posted by: AkaDad | September 4, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am

Yes, I noted that though she only pointed to having more ‘executive’ experience than Sen. Obama or Sen. Biden; it applies just as well to Sen. McCain.
But there’s a real possibility of this woman becoming President should John McCain win the vote.
I just want the old guard out of the White House, and that is only assured with a vote for Obama. I’ve been very disappointed to see them take over control of McCain and his decisions over the past few months.

Posted by: Bad_Buoy | September 4, 2008, 12:31 am 12:31 am

Manitu
You made the put down calling Sarah “little lady”
I didn’t.

Posted by: seenitallx9 | September 4, 2008, 12:31 am 12:31 am

AkaDad: unfortunately, in today’s politics, He would be termed a “sandal-wearing, long-haired, peacenik, socialist”

Posted by: MIguy | September 4, 2008, 12:32 am 12:32 am

HemiHead.
Notice that Rudi NEVER SAID THAN MCCAIN HAD NEVER RUN A MILITARY UNIT!! Just a MINOR. point. Sorry, Hemi, you lost me when you stated that “Rudi and Gov. Palin lied about everything.” You libs have buchered the word ‘Lie’, so much that it has really lost meaning on sites such as this one.’

Posted by: Manitu | September 4, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am

“Little lady” is a put down? Is the term NOT politically correct? I guess that you were never in the Navy(US)?

Posted by: Manitu | September 4, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am

Go back to Alaska and gut a moose. I don’t want you to represent me.

Posted by: GoAwayPalin | September 4, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am

I LOVE THE SMELL OF PANIC IN THE EVENING..HEMIHEAD..NICE RESUME, NOW WHAT HAS HE DONE…WHAT BILL HAS HE INTRODUCED? WHAT BUDGET HAS HE SIGNED? HE’S A FRESHMEN SENATOR, THAT’S IT. SINCE JANUARY OF 2005 HE’S BEEN A PART-TIME SENATOR, PART-TIME CAMPAIGNER. THREE YEARS IN THE SENATE AND 19 PLUS MONTHS CAMPAIGNING. HE ATTENDS MEETINGS, WHEN HE’S NOT CAMPAIGNING….BESIDES….WHY ARE YOU COMPARING YOUR PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE TO THE REPUB VICE PRESIDENTIAL CANIDIDATE??

Posted by: CuriousIndep | September 4, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am

I loved the part of the speech tonight where she said that the special needs children will have an advocate. Then why didn’t she mention if she supports te 08Repub platform which does not recognize pre-school and kindergarten as
as a necessity(page 16 of Platform). You can bet when cuts are made by this group it will programs here in the US
and not abroad. Steward and Colbert seem to announcing the policies of all these guys better than the cable or mainstream media.

Posted by: aw | September 4, 2008, 12:49 am 12:49 am

Gov. Palin sure can deliver a prepared speech!
She threw some real punches this evening (in contrast to the gracious way in which he welcomed her onto the national stage. She drew first blood. No doubt about it. I am impressed. She is no Dan Quayle… though she hasn’t taken any questions from the public yet. I guess that’s her next big test.
Still, to give her credit, her comments on the Russian invasion of Georgia made her sound more expert and knowledgeable on those issues than John McCain, or even Condoleeza Rice – a Russia Expert.
I guess living in Alaska next to Russia DOES make you an expert on Russia.
Her inexperience, and lack of any interest in any public policy issues outside of Alaska, however, is not something that she can dismiss with a rhetorical flourish. We have yet to see her think on her feet.
Mentioning her son in Iraq thrilled a crowd that seems to think that all soldiers are Republicans, but having a son in Iraq does not qualify you to be president, not even having a son die in a Iraq makes a mother an expert on the Iraq war – otherwise we’d all be voting for Cindy Sheehan to be our next president.
The rest of the speech was red-state meat, and sure thrilled the party base.
However, it was so over the top, it contradicted another, key message of John McCain’s campaign, one made by Joe Lieberman the night before – that McCain can work across party lines. Doesn’t look like that in light of Gov. Palin’s speech.
The speech sounded nothing like McCain and everything like something a Bush operative might have prepared….
McCain has been attacked by Democrats and independents for not being true to himself, but for being true to President Bush. This speech came right out of the Bush/Rove playbook, and made the Democrats case for them.
McCain preaches reform, independence, and bi-partisanship. He says he is a maverick – there was nothing maverick, bi-partisan, or new in this speech.
I guess I’m still not clear what McCain thinks he’s up to, who’s his constituency? Independents? Doesn’t look like it. Moderate Republicans? Not from what I heard tonight.
This speech was a no-holds barred, balls-out, Republican rebel yell, and gave the lie to McCain’s promise to cross party lines.
We’ll see if the American public wants four more years of Republican chest-thumping.

Posted by: m@cchiavelli | September 4, 2008, 12:53 am 12:53 am

I so love the world that I send my only daugther to save the world.

Posted by: God | September 4, 2008, 12:54 am 12:54 am

1percenter, the number one thing we have to do is get our energy situation under control because that has a critical ripple effect throughout our economy and has all sorts of geopolitical ramifications. On that count alone, Palin has more practical knowledge and experience than any candidate on either ticket. I really didn’t expect to hear a ton of policy details tonight because that’s not the intent of the speech. But it was certainly a speech that connected with me compared to Obama’s at the Temple of Zeus. And it was only the first speech. We’ll hear more concrete policy details from both tickets in the coming weeks.

Posted by: Jim in OH | September 4, 2008, 12:55 am 12:55 am

I am a retired teacher AND I DO NOT SUPPORT FEDERAL GOVEDRNMENT PARTICIPATION IN PRESCHOOL AND KINDERGARTEN EITHER. ARE YOU SAYING THAT ALL CHILDREN OF THAT AGE GROUP ARE SPECIAL NEEDS? I DOUBT IT!

Posted by: Manitu | September 4, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am

And Obama just want to tell us all the things that is wrong with us and America and everry thing, and all the evils of capitalisum, like the evils of owning seven houses etc. And the greatness of comunisum is, you can not own houses , land or your bussines, every body is equally poor.And you will need a permit to travel from Chicago to Detroit.

Posted by: Walter | September 4, 2008, 12:57 am 12:57 am

BTW:
She diminished Obama’s accomplishments, and elevated, exaggerated or straight-out lied about her own accomplishments tonight. For example, the idea that she killed the Bridge-to-Nowhere.
That works in a speech, but this speech will be picked apart tomorrow in all the media. Not clear why she is setting herself up for a fall.

Posted by: m@cchiavelli | September 4, 2008, 12:57 am 12:57 am

Oh America! I am afraid. Just read the above. This pure seething hatred stalks and infects every corner and street and home in America.
At least one silver lining exists within this dark raging storm cloud.
The decider and uniter and finger-on-the-nukyoular button of the past 7+ years will be gone…shent backs to da new Bush Libary in Cruffurd and its one book, “My Pet Goat.”
Interesting that his wife, the literate librarian chooses to live in Dallas, despite access to their “humble” ranch in Crawford.
I am remembering another Texan 1st lady. I didn’t like her much when she was in “power.” But Lady Bird became one of my heros post her “power” (like another humble person from Plains).
Laura, take note! Now is your chance. You have the opportunity to escape the slime.
Considering slime…
Wonder what’s up for the Dickster? And what ever happened to Rummy? Frankly…who cares? They both deserve waterboarding. Then again, why waste water?
But finally…General Powell…where are you? Come back. America needs you. Know this! We know you were thrown under the bus. But there is no bus big enough to crush what you have to offer this country. Please come back.

Posted by: lostrax | September 4, 2008, 12:58 am 12:58 am

John McCain could have picked a blind bassett hound for VP and put it on stage. Once it started to bark, the translation would appear, “Obama is nothing” and the whole audience would have had their trained pasty smiles showing with laughter. Hey how do you trick a Republican to actually vote against their best interest after 8 years of pure hell? Answer: do the same thing you’ve always done. Don’t talk about the economy, health care, veterans’ issues, middle class, and they’ll suck it up every time.

Posted by: JV | September 4, 2008, 12:59 am 12:59 am

Gov. Palin’s comments on the Russian invasion of Georgia made her sound more expert and knowledgeable on those issues than John McCain, or even Condoleeza Rice – a Russia Expert.
I guess living in Alaska next to Russia DOES make you an expert on Russia.

Posted by: m@cchiavelli | September 4, 2008, 12:59 am 12:59 am

Repubs are the biggest masochistic ideologues in the world. They are a slave to their own thinking and liked to get whipped with the outcome of their own elections. For example, they say “Obama’s going to expand government” all the while knowing that Bush did not veto (or line item veto) one freaking bill. Now they say, “We want change!” Change from what? How about change from your idiotic voting patterns. I hope all you folks looked out in the crowd in that convention arena. Did you really get a sense that this was “REAL” America? Looked like a country club full of elitists to me.

Posted by: JV | September 4, 2008, 1:05 am 1:05 am

Posted by: Jim in OH | Sep 3, 2008 9:00:30 PM
Palin was smeared.
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Nonsense.
Is she so fragile?
If she can’t stand the heat she should have stayed in the kitchen.
Nobody but conspiracy theorists on blogs “smeared” Gov. Palin. of course people responded to even the wildest stories – no-one knew anything about her.
The mainstream media has treated her family with complete respect. Please, point to one example when the media “smeared” Gov. Palin. That’s just a trumped up charge, and pretty slimy from a party that just 6 months ago was flaying Hillary Clinton alive for complaining about perceived sexism.

Posted by: m@cchiavelli | September 4, 2008, 1:07 am 1:07 am

This constant obsession with Palin’s “imperfect” experience is bordering on the ridiculous. It’s a VP slot. She will be mentored by McCain. She’s already a proven executive. She’ll learn fast. Everyone in that position is trained on the job.
How much did Democrats worry about the suitability of Bill Clinton’s experience as Arkansas governor and the depth of his foreign policy experience before he became PRESIDENT (not VP!)? I’ll tell you because I remember. Not at all. Apparently people have short memories.
Alaska is a strategic state and Palin has proven she can run it effectively and responsibly. In fact, she’s run Alaska better than Bill Clinton ran Arkansas. So please, give it a rest.

Posted by: Jim in OH | September 4, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am

Barf ODama attack dogs are out in full force. Guess he has met his match. She is smarter, prettier and has done more than just run her mouth off.

Posted by: Martin | September 4, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am

The convention hall that shows the most flag waving wins. And let’s turn the convention hall into a good old fashion Chrisitan revival. I thought that Sarah Palin was about to break out any second and speak in tongues. Afterwards, the surrogates would translate it for them into Obama bashing and the crowd would shout “Four more years!” Talk about drinking the kool aid? Man, they’re freebasing the powder!!

Posted by: JV | September 4, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am

Yes, beauty is what this country needs right now isn’t it Martin? First it’s the anti-intellectual GW Bush and now the pretty one. I think you have proven to us how Republican think about country first.

Posted by: JV | September 4, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am

This constant obsession with Palin’s “imperfect” experience is bordering on the ridiculous.
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One reason why people focus on experience is because McCain made it THE THEME of his campaign until last Friday.
Apparently, he thought it was important.
Democrats never thought experience was such a big issue, they thought Obama’s superior judgement, policies, intelligence, thoughtfulness, and ability to understand the complex problems facing the country made him the better candidate.
McCain kept harping on the importance of experience, he promised – given his advance age – that he would appoint a candidate with experience, who was qualified to replace him.
To many of us, the question is not who has more experience, Obama or McCain, Obama or Palin, Biden or McCain, etc.
The question is why McCain did a complete 360.
Does he even know his own mind?

Posted by: m@cchiavelli | September 4, 2008, 1:16 am 1:16 am

Mentioning her son in Iraq thrilled a crowd that seems to think that all soldiers are Republicans, but having a son in Iraq does not qualify you to be president, not even having a son die in a Iraq makes a mother an expert on the Iraq war – otherwise we’d all be voting for Cindy Sheehan to be our next president.

Posted by: m@cchiavelli | September 4, 2008, 1:17 am 1:17 am

After seeing and hearing Sarah Palin and her wonderful speech and known abilibities to make the changes, I wonder why Obama is still in the running. Obama runs his mouth. She runs the largest state in the union.
I also loved Rudy’s speech.

Posted by: Mary | September 4, 2008, 1:19 am 1:19 am

The speech sounded nothing like McCain and everything like something a Bush operative might have prepared….
McCain has been attacked by Democrats and independents for not being true to himself, but for being true to President Bush. This speech came right out of the Bush/Rove playbook, and made the Democrats case for them.
McCain preaches reform, independence, and bi-partisanship. He says he is a maverick – there was nothing maverick, bi-partisan, or new in this speech.
I guess I’m still not clear what McCain thinks he’s up to, who’s his constituency? Independents? Doesn’t look like it. Moderate Republicans? Not from what I heard tonight.
This speech was a no-holds barred, balls-out, Republican rebel yell, and gave the lie to McCain’s promise to cross party lines.
We’ll see if the American public wants four more years of Republican chest-thumping.

Posted by: m@cchiavelli | September 4, 2008, 1:21 am 1:21 am

Let’s face it; We are all lost here – Democrat and Republican alike. Never has the presidential election appeared to be such a farce. Obama, Palin, McCain, Biden, Oh My! Hillary, please forgive us in our hour of need! Now we know better. Romney, we hardly knew ye. Now we will all suffer needlessly no matter who wins. Change – sure, like I change my socks every day – they are still socks… Maverick – yeah, OK – I drove one in 1975 – let’s just say that it was nice for a few miles, but it aint around today. We are all in trouble. The patients are now running the sanatorium!

Posted by: Bob | September 4, 2008, 1:22 am 1:22 am

You have to check out this 30 second clip of Cindy McCain explaining Palin’s National Security Experience. http://sensico.wordpress.com/2008/08/31/cindy-mccain-explains-why-sarah-palin-is-experienced/

Posted by: HemiHead | September 4, 2008, 1:25 am 1:25 am

Google “Clean Break” and then you’ll start to get a sense of the policy that’s driving the Republicans. Look at the document that is considered the neo-con manifesto. It’s up to Sarah Palin to complete the checklist of the goals? Oil, Israel, and the good old Military Industrial Complex are driving this country. Not old-fashioned values or morals. Let’s be clear, fear and hatred get you stupid Republicans to act more than anything else. The xenophobia drives you to make irrational decisions. This is exactly what they want you to do and you behave just as they plan on you behaving. They don’t care about you one bit. Let me quote Col. Lawrence B. Wilkerson, retired United States Army Colonel and former chief of staff to United States Secretary of State Colin Powell, about the speech Powell made before the United Nations on Feb. 5, 2003, laying out a case for war with Iraq, included falsehoods of which Powell had never been made aware. He said, “My participation in that presentation at the UN constitutes the lowest point in my professional life. I participated in a hoax on the American people, the international community and the United Nations Security Council.”
This administration lied to you along with John McCain enforcing it with “My friends, I will have an energy policy which will eliminate our dependence on oil from Middle East that will then prevent us from having ever to send our young men and women into conflict again in the Middle East.”
Give me an effing break!!!

Posted by: JV | September 4, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am

The Obama campaign has hired up to 25,000 people to run his campaign. Some 300 are to be bloggers and they are sure busy tonight with their distortions and lies. They forget that Alaska has 1/4 area of the rest of the states. Just the vast acreage cause insurmountable problems and solutions.
One can not get on highways to get very far. Airplanes travel is a must.

Posted by: Martin | September 4, 2008, 1:30 am 1:30 am

Obama galvanized the nation, and sutained its attention for two years.
McCain of 2008 has lost the Democrats, Independents and moderate Republicans who loved him in 2000. His last Democratic friend is Joe Lieberman – someone who has lost his own bearings.
Palin galvanized the evangelical-wing of the Republican base – this weekend.
We’ll see who appeals to a broader constituency. Who really offers policies that can change the disastrous course Bush, his party, and his cronies have set this nation on.

Posted by: m@cchiavelli | September 4, 2008, 1:31 am 1:31 am

m@cchiavelli, you apparently aren’t looking very hard. Palin treated with respect by the MSM? Hahahahaha. I just watched Larry King on CNN where three different women pundits totally distored her positions. Right after her speech I saw the same thing on MSNBC. The NYT ran THREE front page, anti-Palin stories in ONE DAY this week, including a story that raised questions about her daughter. And the link below is but one more example of op-eds I saw posted in a major newspapers and magazines all week. You can believe what you want to believe. If Obama’s family was scrutinized like this, you Obamabots would go bananas.
http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/sally_quinn/2008/08/sarah_polin.html

Posted by: Jim in OH | September 4, 2008, 1:31 am 1:31 am

Posted by: Bob | Sep 4, 2008 1:22:14 AM
I feel reassured. Your comments convince me that there is a least one other citizen out there in cyberspace who is still sane.

Posted by: m@cchiavelli | September 4, 2008, 1:34 am 1:34 am

m@cchiavelli, unfortunately for your candidate most Americans are center-right and identify much more strongly with McCain/Palin than an unproven elitist like Obama. Obama has never had a significant lead over McCain even when he had exclusive coverage from his sycophants in the media. The more people hear him, the less they like him. The more people hear McCain/Palin, the more they like them. Face it. Obama blew it by not making Hillary VP. C ya next time.

Posted by: Jim in OH | September 4, 2008, 1:42 am 1:42 am

Posted by: Jim in OH | Sep 4, 2008 1:31:57 AM
O.K. I’ll grant you, I’m making light of the cries of “for shame” on the part of some defenders of Gov. Palin right now. But McCain, Hillary, Obama have been subjected to just this sort of vitriol from the MSM and bloggers for months running now. It goes with the territory, and is to be expected. This kind of intense scrutiny is a normal part of the “hazing” that goes with running for president.
Why is it necessary? Why can’t we all just get along? Well, for one because we want our Presidents and Vice-Presidents to be able to stand up for themselves.
I don’t think the MSM or “liberal” media are being any harder on Palin than the MSM or “conservative” media have been on Obama (Rev. Wright, Reznik, Ayres, his inexperience, his arrogance, etc.) or McCain (the Keating five, his messy family divorce, his seeming morphing from an independent into someone to the right of Bush, etc)
Lets not even start with how hard the media left, right, and mainstream have been on the Clinton’s.
The road to the most powerful office in the world SHOULD be punishing.
To quote someone wise (Gov. Palin commenting on Sen. Clinton a couple of months ago) “to whine about media scrutiny, or harsh treatment by the media is unbecoming, you should just try harder and prove your critics wrong.

Posted by: m@cchiavelli | September 4, 2008, 1:44 am 1:44 am

Posted by: Jim in OH | Sep 4, 2008 1:42:07 AM
…most Americans are center-right and identify much more strongly with McCain/Palin than an unproven elitist like Obama…”
I know that’s what you believe, but as you yourself point out, your assertions are not backed up by the polls.
Belief aint money in the bank. See you in November.

Posted by: m@cchiavelli | September 4, 2008, 1:47 am 1:47 am

HemiHead.
Notice that Rudi NEVER SAID THAN MCCAIN HAD NEVER RUN A MILITARY UNIT!! Just a MINOR. point. Sorry, Hemi, you lost me when you stated that “Rudi and Gov. Palin lied about everything.” You libs have buchered the word ‘Lie’, so much that it has really lost meaning on sites such as this one.’
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McCain never did run a military unit. He finished something like 897 out of 900 in his class, crashed 5 plane’s, and sat out the war as a POW. If it wasn’t for his Old Man he would’ve been tossed out long before getting shot down in the last plane. John McCain can’t even turn on a computer. If he’s country and troops first why did he vote against health care for our troops 4 years in a row. Why have our troops given more money to Obama’s campaign than McCain’s by a margin of 6 to 1. If Obama wants our troops to lose what’s the deal.

Posted by: HemiHead | September 4, 2008, 1:52 am 1:52 am

If you think the media has been hard on Palin just wait until they actually interview her!!! Let them vet the candidate that John W. McCain did not.
If you don’t like all the stories about her coming out ask yourself if she was truly the best person for the job.
I bet not one of you even knew who she was until last week. You will have to go on “the google” on the internets, to find out who the hell she really is. But wait, let the Pulitzer prize winning National Enquirer find out for you because they’re hot on her trail!

Posted by: JV | September 4, 2008, 1:57 am 1:57 am

WOW REPUBLICANS!!!!
I am watching the CNN reply of the convention tonight. I got home only in time to watch the Palin speech…
It sounded thin and PLAIN to me…
BUT ROMNEY WOW!!! That guy should be the VP!!!! Shoot, I would vote for him as a Democrat for President!!!
Gee, your guy McCain sure made a BIG mistake with that VP pick, YA THINK??

Posted by: Daisy | September 4, 2008, 1:58 am 1:58 am

By the way Jim in OH | Sep 4, 2008 1:42:07 AM:
I consider myself a left-of-center Democrat, but a liberal hawk.
The kind of Democrat Joe Lieberman used to be before he sold his soul in the hopes of a second run for the Vice-presidency.
I supported Hillary in the most recent Democratic primaries, and voted for…guess who…Sen. John McCain in the 2000 primaries.
I supported the invasion of Iraq, but think that Bush and his cronies completely bungled the occupation, and failed the mission.
I think that McCain has been wrong throughout the course of the war – except on one point – the surge in Iraq.
He got that right.
But since he was wrong at every other point, I don’t think he is the right man to bring our troops home with honor.
I will be voting for Obama this November. I expect competence in my leaders.

Posted by: m@cchiavelli | September 4, 2008, 1:58 am 1:58 am

Overall, Palin’s speech was interesting though some of her jabs at Obama were a little rough, especially the one on Obama being a Community Organizer. MLK was also considered to be a Community Organizer. Does anyone want to try to degrade MLK’s experience???

Posted by: IchBinAnonymous | September 4, 2008, 2:23 am 2:23 am

unlike some of the folks on here, i’m not ready to beatify Palin after one scripted speech. she did a good job, now time to move on. the problem with these ‘surprise’ picks is that one day they’re the greatest and next day they’re the worst. there’s no middle for them – that’s the problem with this pick. needlessly risky. same speech could’ve been given by someone more tested and known. her folksy-ness may turn grating and ignorant down the road. i’d like less personality and more substance.
but we’ve got lemons so have got to make lemonade. we’ll see what the ol’ guy is up to tonight.

Posted by: 1percenter | September 4, 2008, 2:28 am 2:28 am

i was impressed. Ms. Palin proved her ability to read the prompter and follow the script(ure).
She is devout…no doubt…but about what?
Her best joke was off the prompter and resonates with any true ice hockey fan…note carefully the word ICE. there is no other hockey. Indeed there are few other true sports (apology…and all the best to Mr. Phelps…i taught blind kids swimming…so I understand your passion).
Michigan has 2 sports. Sorry Pistons & Tigers & Lions…I love you)…but true Michigan sport involves water.
Michigan is my home…where I grew up. Michigan is in deep trouble. The heart of America, indeed the entire mid-west is in trouble…and has been for 7+ years. Recession? Hell NO! It Is DEPRESSION. Thank You Bush Republicans.
Hey America! You can raise chickens…and rabbits in your backyard…and the former foreclosed neighbors’ backyards. And rabbit tastes like chicken! Just don’t let your children witness butchering of their pets. Welcome to the mid-west.
I swim. i love to swim. My mother tells of my very young gravitation to any puddle and my need to splash and play. But my true love is hard water.
There is no adrenaline sense of speed like an ice boat on a wide open lake. And there is no adrenaline rush like violence on a pair of skates limited to control of a tiny puck by the ballet skill of a skater with a broomstick to move that puck.
I skated before i walked. I played ice hockey in college. I taught figure skating. I coached PeeWees. I know HockeyMoms.
So I know the joke about pittbulls wearing lipstick. And I laughed my butt off. My mom is just such. Then again…meet my dad. Pittbulls with lipstick have no clue. Never-the-less my respect for Ms. Palin soared.
BUT
Her joke about “community organizers” proved and defined the people we witnessed as republicans.
That crowd…that RNC crud laughed…and says it all.
I have devoted my life to community organization. I have fought for teaching swimming to blind kids and ice skating to all. And this is only part of my life as a licensed professional community planner and landscape architect.
I am ashamed that there are Americans so filled with hate…for other Americans. You witnessed that hatred on the RNC floor…and the empty seats in the RNC gallery…despite the programmed cheerleading and “hand painted” signs of Ms. Palin’s scripted RNC audience.
You witnessed the “profile” of the republican America. It was right there…up front on camera.
How many of those people broke manicured fingernails scraping their Bush/Cheney and W stickers off the bumpers of their gas-sucking SUVs?
You witnessed the Americans(?) who voted for DUBLOON twice.
NOTE: You cannot script an audience fully occupying some open air stadium.

Posted by: lostrax | September 4, 2008, 2:48 am 2:48 am

Oh dear she just insulted all the community orgainzers that get up at the wee hours of the morning and walk the streets tiredlessly to take care of our homeless, poor and mentally challanged residents…The are caring men and women, pastors, teachers, policemen, firefighters, students, seniors and just ordinary people who care about americas unfortunate and she just told us our jobs are not important…that we dont have responsibilities and it does not count…Palin my dear you do not count. I want a president who knows what is like to walk the streets in the cold and look out for the less fortunate.

Posted by: Heather | September 4, 2008, 3:02 am 3:02 am

HEATHER!
thank you

Posted by: lostrax | September 4, 2008, 3:15 am 3:15 am

you are welcome Lostrax…I will continue to wear my old worn out sneakers and with my hard un manicured hands…care for the many WWII veterans that still are homeless and suffer from mental illness that roam the streets begging…Palin made me feel so depressed that McCain thought she represented Hillary. I take care of the unfortunate and also listen to them…McCain is Insane.

Posted by: heather | September 4, 2008, 3:36 am 3:36 am

NPR (national public radio) reported that the RNC had 36 black delegates and less than 2% other…the rest White…This is not america…America is a UNITED country of all race.

Posted by: heather | September 4, 2008, 3:38 am 3:38 am

HEATHER!
WOW a response so soon.
know this…dear god…know this…
you are not alone.
there are many many many many folk who believe and fight.
always smile. i fight and still i weep. but occasionally i find time to break out in a great big grin beyond some smile…like now…thank you.
r

Posted by: lostrax | September 4, 2008, 3:52 am 3:52 am

PLEASE,
WILL SOMEONE ON CAMERA ASK THE FOLLOWING SIMPLE QUESTION OF FORMER NYC MAYOR RUDY G:
“What progress has been made toward identifying, arresting, indicting and convicting those who looted the underground mall (including banks, and jewelers, as well as sunglasses kiosks) during and within 24 hours of the wtc towers collapse?”

Posted by: lostrax | September 4, 2008, 4:20 am 4:20 am

If you want to see a great speech from the democratic convention that was blacked out by the media, go to You Tube and look up “Kucinich Wake up America.” Watch the 6 minute version. It’s the best minute speech you’ll ever hear.

Posted by: HemiHead | September 4, 2008, 4:27 am 4:27 am

This convention has become so hateful and uninspiring. The RNC has gone way too far to the right for my taste. I feel like the Republicans are saying that they are America and anyone who doesn’t agree with the extremely socially conservative platform put forth by the RNC this year isn’t truly American and doesn’t put their country first. I’m not gay, I don’t have any gay family or friends, but it bothers me when a major political party has a speaker (Mitt Romney) talk about discriminating against a group of Americans and it’s received with cheers by a crowd of thousands. I’m pro-choice, and it’s clear that unless you agree with their stance on abortion, you are not fully welcome in the Grand Old Party. Otherwise, Lieberman would be the VP candidate. McCain has buckled to the angry right.
As a moderate, I’m sick and tired of the lunatic fringes that have come together in St. Paul this week (left and right, both the anarchists and the GOP).
I teared up in frustration tonight watching the speeches. I’m tired of a Republican party that embraces ignorance and tells me that I’m not a hard worker because I went to college, or that I’m not authentically American because I’m not from a small town. My grandfather was a janitor who worked hard to put my mother through college so she could have a better life for herself (of course, it would be much harder for him to do that today).
I want our country to move beyond these divisive politics and work together to solve the critical issues facing us all like the economy, healthcare, energy and jobs. I watched Obama’s speech and I was excited that between Obama and McCain, we would have an election about the issues and bipartisanship. Then McCain made a cynical pick with Sarah Palin and now the GOP is holding a hateful convention, trying to incite another culture war. I think it’s wrong for anyone to attack Palin’s daughter, and I have so much respect for Obama that he spoke out against it. At their convention, the Democrats did not belittle McCain or his service, but tonight speaker after speaker has belittled Obama in a way that is simply disrespectful, and I feel insulted as an American and a voter. I hope Obama will work to keep the election from sinking into that same old politics!
ENOUGH!!!! I WANT POSITIVITY!!!! I WANT CHANGE!!!! I’M VOTING OBAMA!!!!

Posted by: Megan K. | September 4, 2008, 4:43 am 4:43 am

yup! his speech is only a moment in the entire effort. wake up america! i will vote for him and ron paul, even though i know my vote will be meaningless. but at least…please lord recognize that what i say, and fight for everyday is represented by what i do on voting day.

Posted by: lostrax | September 4, 2008, 4:48 am 4:48 am

lol…abc edited my question re rg and ntc wtc. so guys….anyone investigating?????????
hmmmmmm??????

Posted by: lostrax | September 4, 2008, 4:55 am 4:55 am

Did Lisa Lampanelli write Gov. Palin’s Speech?
Palin’s speech sounded like nothing so much as a Comedy Central Roast of Barack Obama: belittling, abusive, dismissive, and vicious.
Funny, HA HA…
meanwhile the nation burns.
Does she have anything more?
People are losing their homes, Bush and the Republican Congress have run up record deficits, bankrupted our country’s moral standing,
ignored public cries for accountability, abused the our legal traditions with impunity, re-ignited the Cold War, inflamed the Middle East,
neutered the Middle East peace process, done nothing to contain Iran’s nuclear program, allowed the Taliban to re-emerge in Afghanistan,
created new, put our nation in hoc to China, failed to solve the problems with our health insurance system and social security, …
The nation looks to the McCain and Palin for a solution, and all we hear, once again, is how McCain was a P.O.W. and Palin was a member of teh P.T.A?
Have Republicans gone insane?

Posted by: Emperor Nero - just fiddlin' while Rome burns | September 4, 2008, 5:00 am 5:00 am

I can understand why McCain’s five years as a P.O.W. would be relevant if we were sending him to a prison cell in Guantanomo Bay.
But how does it qualify him to be President of the United States?
How, in God’s name, does spending five years in a prison cell in the Hanoi Hilton prepare you for any decision you will have to make over four years in the Oval Office?
What’s McCain going do when things continue to go from bad to worse, give the nation a thumbs up?

Posted by: Emperor Nero - just fiddlin' while Rome burns | September 4, 2008, 5:12 am 5:12 am

thanks, that’s a very good post , thanks a lot

Posted by: العاب شمس الدين | September 4, 2008, 5:16 am 5:16 am

ahhh..heck with it. i’ll try again.
HEY!
WILL ANYONE PLEASE ASK MR. GULLIANNI:
WHAT PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE TOWARD IDENTIFYING, ARRESTING. INDICTING, CONVICTING THOSE WHO LOOTED THE UNDERGROUND MALL (INCLUDING BANKS AND JEWELERS, AS WELL AS SUNGLASSES KIOSKS) DURING AND WITHIN 24 HOURS OF THE WTC TOWERS COLLAPSE???

Posted by: lostrax | September 4, 2008, 5:17 am 5:17 am

Community Organizers with Actual Responsibilities
Sarah Palin’s statement against ‘community organizers’, that “I guess a small-town mayor is sort of like a `community organizer,’ except that you have actual responsibilities,” is counterproductive and an attack on all movements that have emerged in the U.S. to form social and political change, including the organized movements that forged a pathway in order that women like Belva Ann Bennett Lockwood , Shirley Chisolm, Carol Mosely Braun, Sarah Palin, Hillary Clinton, etc., would have the opportunity to announce their bid for the White House.
Palins’ attack on Barack Obama as a community organizer and that he had no “actual responsibility” that would give credence to the Democratic elect for President, inadvertently attacks a monumental fabric of American society. To compare an elected official position to a position as a community organizer, minimizes the arduous work, the tumultuous tears and sweat, and the remarkable lives that were loss in nurturing and elevating the civil rights movement, Chicano movement, the gay rights movement, and even the feminist movement which Palin owes her respect and acknowledgment.
There are millions of people today in the U.S. that are community organizers and find it their responsibility to incite social change, whether through voter registration, youth and family development, equal housing and employment justice, and there are even graduate and undergraduate programs, websites, which focus on community organizing for those who are interested in careers that promote social ‘responsible’ change.
Palin’s pursuit to derogate Barack Obama’s experience in order to win over voters can also isolate those members of society dedicated to mobilizing communities toward a common view, and as community organizers – these same people are looking to vote for a President that will not only be responsible, yet appreciative for the work that is endured and conducted on the “high plane of dignity and discipline,” in order to ensure the “freedom and the security of justice” for all Americans, whether Republican, Democrat, Independent, etc.
Zeenab Fowlk
Born and raised in Oregon
U.S. Community Organizer since 1982
Actual Responsibilities can be submitted on request

Posted by: Zeenab Fowlk | September 4, 2008, 6:35 am 6:35 am

Oh dear, now that Palin has humorously exposed Obama as a do-nothing Senator with a pathetic resume (not even one bill with his name on it), Obama has unleashed the “Community Organizer” minons to pile on Palin. It is to laugh. I welcome extensive inquiries into Obama’s community organizing activities. Has anyone noticed how few details about these activities are out there? There’s good reason for this. His connections to radical groups will be fully exposed. Let’s hear all about it!

Posted by: Jim in OH | September 4, 2008, 7:26 am 7:26 am

Us Magazine Takes Down Palin Poll Because 71% Supported Palin
http://www.usmagazine.com/polladmin/poll_hp2_v5c.php?action=results&poll_id=1149
Oops. LOL.

Posted by: Jim in OH | September 4, 2008, 7:56 am 7:56 am

The GOP has made a terrible mistake on Palin. In spite of her great speech last night, how could they not pick someone like Kay B. Hutchinson or even Meg Whitman, who I thought gave a wonderful sppech. Palin, governs a state that has more moose than people, and zero foreign policy experience. Isn’t this lack of foreign policy experience a red flag in today’s trying world? Time to wake up people.

Posted by: Derek | September 4, 2008, 8:39 am 8:39 am

Jim in OH…What are you like the resident fanboy here?
We get it. You are a McCain\Palin supporter. We understand that. What we can’t understand is why you have over 20 posts in this particular comment section.
There are other McCain supporters here who think you are acting like an idiot! The only favor you are providing is for the Dems, real Republicans don’t need to keep tooting the horn, our politics resonate enough for themselves!
Leave that type of politics for the Dems. Grow up!!!

Posted by: Derek | September 4, 2008, 8:47 am 8:47 am

John McCain and Sarah Palin have brought change to America turning the stale old politics on it head. Now the MSM is falling over themselves trying to catch up with what happened. Sarah is a threat to the old same-old-same-old who will do their best to defend the old status quo – we see this with the smears. I am going to love watching Sarah break down plugs in a debate. I love the way she stabs those *daggers* with a smile. Wow!!!
Country first, McCain/Palin 08

Posted by: Norman | September 4, 2008, 8:49 am 8:49 am

Wow,
The Republican puppeteers are truly great manipulators and I take my hat off to them.
The press was so easily and transparently manipulated that I am sure no one with any sense believed they would hear a critical word against Gov. Palin’s speech, or MS. Palin herself for that matter.
God, it is so bad that even Chris Matthews sat beside McCain’s spokeswoman and laughed at Community Organizers who, he sad, just show up in your town and “make trouble.”

Posted by: sdanielle | September 4, 2008, 8:59 am 8:59 am

Wasn’t the first night of the RNC all about “Service” to your country? Was there a change of thinking after one night? Why was there so much mockery made of community organizers? Doesn’t make much sense. Shorty memory or hypocrisy?

Posted by: Jason | September 4, 2008, 9:28 am 9:28 am

Service yes, but to suggest that a community organizer who didn’t do a very good job of organizing the South Side of Chicago (read the wonderful headlines about the goings-on in this wonderful part of the city) is ready to “organize” our country and world is joke. He has the simplicity of hope and the absence of substance. Nice guy with big hopes and dreams for his future, just no plans or experience on how to run the country or anything for that matter. His wife is more qualified to be president then he is.

Posted by: Elle | September 4, 2008, 9:58 am 9:58 am

Great Speech…. Just that a speech,
somebody pissed her off…..
what is funny to me is that she spent a lot of time bashing and not a lot of time on the real issues….

Posted by: Cicly | September 4, 2008, 10:00 am 10:00 am

Palin’s speech last night rekindled some old memories of another political party from the past. The ever decreasing differences and increasing similarities between the GOP and the NSDAP are alarming, to say the least. Of course, the scapegoats and targets of focused national hatred are different today, but the agenda is identical. Non-alignment with the GOP will increasingly result in alienation, financial desparity, eventual deportation (of many undesirables, such as immigrants, those with different political views and many other “non-republican” fringe groups). As in the past, deportation alone will not resolve the perceived problems and solutions the GOP feels must be implemented to “make America better” and will ever increasingly take a more hard-line approach to the continual issues facing America. A final solution will come to pass as the GOP becomes increasingly nationalistic as it strives for “American perfection”. Those in poverty, with differing political views, the disabled, the lower levels of the working class, minorities, even many seniors will need to be dealt with in dramatic fashion to uphold the ideals of the GOP and what it will eventually deem necessary for the survival of the party. And the Nazis, as we once called them, will not gas people, they’ll just selectively penalize and reward through specialized tax codes for the loyal and restrictions of civil rights for the rest. The GOP will alienate and punish all that do not “goose-step” in line with its ideology and crush any opposition through political, social, economic and “moral” codes. Sieg Heil!

Posted by: John | September 4, 2008, 10:08 am 10:08 am

It’s over obamites. Quit whining and wring your hands.Splash some cold water on your faces and wake up. It’s over for Obama.
Your boy sucks, it’s over.Sarah will stomp his skinny tail into the ground in every sense of the words.
Wait until O”reilly gets ahold of the liar tonite!!!

Posted by: Observer | September 4, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am

We should really commend the speech writter,I heard this is ths same writter who wrote speeches for Bush. And of course we should give credit to Sarah for the excellent reading skill in the teleprompter. She has accomplished what she is being hired for– to entertain the base. They were sure entertained. But where is the PLAN. Where is VISION. It is very negative, mostly sarcasm and devisive. It does not uplift and inspire. She attacks people but not the problem. This will not solve our country’s problem. This is not what we are looking for for a leader.

Posted by: ROME | September 4, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am

how does community organizer compare with sports caster?

Posted by: xmarks | September 4, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am

This shows how the right is out-of-touch with regular Americans.

Posted by: Eric | September 4, 2008, 11:59 am 11:59 am

Americans will never vote black. Just like they will never vote Jewish (just ask Lieberman and Gore). By default, the white Christians will always win (let’s face it, we didn’t let the South secede when they wanted to and now we carry their legacy…).
Does anyone honestly think that redneck, six-packin’, gun-toting white men will ever vote otherwise? Their wives will follow suit.
No Republicans will ever be swayed to the Democratic ticket on this election either.
That leaves 12 – 17% of the vote left for the Dems.
God bless America!

Posted by: Rit | September 4, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm

The truth behind the Obama community organizer debate:
The only reason Obama became a community organizer was to shore up the appeal of his resume for his Harvard Law School application. This is the strategy of every applicant, who has ambitious goals. His motivation to serve as a community organizer was driven more by self-interest than that of the community’s interest. This is a 100% fact. So, stop griping about Palin’s attack on faux-community organizers like Obama.

Posted by: a d | September 4, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm

I was willing to give Gov. Palin the benefit of the doubt. I was hoping she would come out to introduce herself and provide substance solutions to America’s problems – economic and national security.
I was hoping she would put forth her vision for America and how to effectively assist in leading us in this 21st century.
But instead she was a let down. Her answer to defending her accomplishments was to try and diminish Sen. Obama’s strong legislative record and accomplishments. She stayed on the attack, lying and using vicious, divisive, gutter attacks. Basically, she proved and defined herself as someone who’s deeply rooted in the old failed and dirty politics America have seen year after year.
She has no real plan to make the American people lives better on the very serious issues we are facing – education, health care, mortgage crisis, poverty, energy crisis, job losses, etc.
She has proven, as have McCain, that she is committed to continuing the failed policies of Bush. And this is a shame since Bush has the lowest approval rating ever – 26%. …this is a shame since 80 % of the American people believe the country is on the wrong track and people are desperately seeking a new and better direction. This is a shame since America has lost it’s creditability abroad and neither McCain nor Palin has any solutions to offer the American people and our allies around the world. They are so “out-of-touch” on the needs that this nation is facing right now in this defining moment in history. They just don’t get it. They truly don’t have real solutions to fix this nation’s serious problems.
It’s time for the American people to get it right and NOT vote for McCain-Palin, instead vote for change. It’s time for this country to turn the page and seek a new and better future for ourselves and our children. It’s time for REAL change in Washington, it’s time to elect Barack Obama for president !
It’s the Obama-Biden ticket that’s needed at this defining moment in our history because this team is wiser and stronger to meet the challenges this nation faces at home and abroad.

Posted by: Barack Obama IS Our next president | September 4, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm

Bill Clinton believes Obama has the mindset of a Chicago street thug (Politico, 2008). So a community organizer must be a Chicago street thug.

Posted by: Norman | September 4, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm

Palin’s speech was well recited and eloquently delivered. However, the content was mere rhetoric and was an outright attack, not on Barack Obama, but on the heart of America. It is the community organizers that make America great. It was the community organizers that declared their independence and made America. And for Palin-McCain to attack America-to attack the ordinary American person- in this way is very un-American. What happen to changing your community to change America? It takes community organizers to do this.
What about Martin Luther King, Jr.? He was one of the greatest community organizers of our generation. According to Palin, he had no responsibilities. According to Palin, Martin Luther King, Jr. was unimportant. I believe Martin Luther King, Jr. would have made an excellent President, even though he was just a preacher turned community organizer. Except for Martin Luther King, Jr., I would not be where I am today. America would not be where it is today. He believed he could change America by changing his community; without him standing up first in his community; I would not even be able to ride in the front of the bus.
Enough is enough! Palin’s speech showed me the continued elitist nature of the Republican Party and for this reason we must support the Barack-Biden ticket. The Republicans-at least McCain-Palin- don’t care about the ordinary American. No! Palin made that very clear in her speech. She only cares for those who already have the strength, the financial capability, and the know how to build their bridges. But what about the ones who desire to build but can’t or don’t know how? Thank God for the community organizers.
I believe McCain-Palin owe the American people an apology for attacking community organizers. This was not just an attack on Barack Obama-he was a community organizers,- but on every current community organizer who just wants to make a difference in his or her community. For the community organizer who has the strength to stand up when others either do not care or do not have the courage or the know how to stand. God Bless America! God Bless the everyday American who believes he can change his America for the better one community at a time. God Bless the community organizers who declared independence and decided to become America. God Bless the Community Organizer.

Posted by: LBruce | September 4, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm

“Much has been written about Obama’s career as a “community organizer,” a benign term that was actually the brainchild of Marxist agitator Saul Alinsky, whose writings Obama studied and who founded an organization in Chicago for which Obama worked.” – HyScience 2008

Posted by: Norman | September 4, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm

Sadly, unfortunately – Palin words discredited and disservices all the community organizers who work exceedingly hard each day to be hopeful and helpful in changing the lives of all Americans faced amongst serious issues not excluding food, clothing, water and shelter as constitutional; fundamental necessities of any society.

Posted by: Knoxland | September 4, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm

I wonder about all those community organizers that try to help the less fortunate, the elderly, the disabled – you know, like kids with Down syndrome and their parents, etc

Posted by: Jayhawk | September 4, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm

Even in this short piece, the writers (ABC News’ Teddy Davis and Imtiyaz Delawala) have inserted their personal bias when referencing Gov. Palin’s hometown. They include the adjective of “tiny” when describing her hometown and cite the town’s population of 6,700.
However, when they reference Sen. Obama’s community organizing and state senate days there is never any mention of the size/population that he represented. Do “community organizers” know how big their community is? If not, then at the very least, there should be a population figure associated with the district he represented as a state senator. Is this population also “tiny?” We can’t judge because we are never given the comparative information.
On another issue I have is that the media never questions what Sen. Obama did or accomplished as a community organizer. They are as quick to cite this experience as they are to deride Gov. Palin’s experience as a mayor. In fact, the article quotes the senator’s own reference to this experience, “When I listen to another worker tell me that his factory has shut down,” Obama said at last week’s Democratic National Convention, “I remember all those men and women on the South Side of Chicago who I stood by and fought for two decades ago after the local steel plant closed.” — This last sentence should be a starting point for a “tiny” bit of journalistic investigation. He “fought for two decades. . .” what does this mean? Did he get anyone of these folks a job? Did he work to attract capital to the area to create new jobs? If so, how may jobs? How many were lost and how many did his efforts create? It would seem to me these are pretty basic questions.
I hope this is at least food for thought.
Julio

Posted by: jsuarez | September 4, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm

Julio, actually we can judge. Wasilla, AK, where Sarah Palin was a mayor has roughly the same number of inhabitants as the housing complex in which Obama was a community organizer.
Wasilla: 5,469 (2000 census)
Altgeld Gardens: 3,400 or 5,300 (some sources say current population is 3,400, some say it was 5,300 when he worked there — I couldn’t confirm)
So, in this case, “tiny” isn’t really an editorial bias.
Plus, it was a faith-based organization leading Obama’s program. Why doesn’t that get mentioned? Because it was Catholic, and the religious right considers Catholics akin to pagans.

Posted by: Nicole | September 4, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm

thank you Lostrax and Heather for your giving back. I too work with at risk youth in addition to my regular day job, I volunteer at the school, am a PTA president, Girl Scout troop leader and an advocate for teaching literacy to adults.
It bothered me the most that she could be that . . . HARD. The fact that the spectators found her comments about community organizing funny sealed it for me.
We simply cannot afford to have a McCain/Palin ticket in the White House.

Posted by: notthistime | September 4, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm

One more thing – what also concerned me is after the speech — MSNBC pundits were discussing the results and someone asked — what does a community organizer do anyway? Another one responded — they just get people all riled up to protest about nothing.. . or something to that effect.
They are COMPLETELY out of touch and insensitive to the needs of some of our citizens. That is horrible.
We need an Obama/Biden administration. We have to fight for it. Get out the vote, make sure our friends, family members etc. validate their voter registration cards (saw a few posts regarding missing cards) and take this thing across the finish line.

Posted by: notthistime | September 4, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm

Jesus was a Community Organizer.
Pontius Pilate was a Governor.

Posted by: Virginia Vet | September 5, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am

a community organizer is a volunteer, which repubs say they’re for, and a mayor is part of GOVERNMENT which must be paid for with TAXES, which repubs say they’re against.
so make up your minds, repubs.

Posted by: jon w | September 5, 2008, 10:29 am 10:29 am

This will absolutely blow your mind. One more reason why you never hear the details of Obama’s “community organizing” activities in the mainstream media. People, we are being duped on an unimaginable level.
Michelle’s Boot Camps For Radicals
http://www.investors.com/editorial/editorialcontent.asp?secid=1501&status=article&id=305420655186700

Posted by: Jim in OH | September 5, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am

Why does the American public find this woman appealing? She is insulting and negative. The Roseanne Barr of presidential elections.

Posted by: ann | September 5, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm

Disparaging community organizing disparages all of the people who need help making their voices heard. Perhaps Palin and McCain are not interested in hearing these people’s voices–they are often poor and minority.

Posted by: Melissa | September 6, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm

Charlies Manson was also a community organizer!

Posted by: Ron | September 7, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm

Jesus Christ and his disciples were community organizers. Pontius Pilate was a governor.

Posted by: Fred Fernandez | September 8, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm

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