By Lee Speigel

Sep 12, 2008 8:18pm

Palin Zings Obama for Not Picking Hillary

Are there smiles in Chappaqua tonight?

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin had a little riff on how Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., must be having second-thoughts about not picking Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, as his running mate.

"I think he’s regretting not picking her now, I do," Palin told Charlie Gibson tonight on World News with Charles Gibson. "What, what determination, and grit, and even grace through some tough shots that were fired her way — she handled those well."

In response, the Obama campaign sent out a statement from former Clinton supporter Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, D-Fla., who said, "Sarah Palin should spare us the phony sentiment and respect.  Governor Palin accused Senator Clinton of whining and John McCain laughed when a questioner referred to her by using a demeaning expletive. John McCain and Sarah Palin represent no meaningful change, just the same failed  policies and same divisive, demeaning politics that has devastated the middle class."

And the Obama campaign helpfully provided links to the aforementioned "demeaning expletive"  and Palin talking about Clinton (in which Palin does not really accuse Palin of whining, but rather expresses the opinion that when a woman in politics says anything about harsh scrutiny that can be "perceived" as a "whine," it hurts women in politics generally.  A better source of this is the actually Newsweek video, which you can access HERE.)

I, too, wonder if Obama regrets not picking Clinton and perhaps I’m not alone.

In Nashua, NH, this week, the man Obama did pick, Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., defended Clinton from a man who said how glad he was that Obama picked him over Hillary, "not because she’s a woman, but because, look at the things she did in the past."

"Make no mistake about this," Biden responded. "Hillary Clinton is as qualified or more qualified than I am to be vice president of the United States of America. Let’s get that straight. She’s a truly close personal friend, she is qualified to be president of the United States of America, she’s easily qualified to be vice president of the United States of America, and quite frankly, it might have been a better pick than me. But she’s first rate, I mean that sincerely, she’s first rate, so let’s get that straight."

So much of the Palin pick seemed reactive — a response to Obama not picking Clinton by McCain, who was very focused during the primaries on the white women whom Obama has had trouble wooing. I wonder if McCain would have picked Palin had Obama selected Clinton.

- jpt

User Comments

I think McCain would still pick Palin even if Obama picked Hillary because Palin is tough, feisty and is a drawing card. After the public got to know her she drews thousands of people to McCain’s campaign. Obama is not a celebrity anymore Palin beat him out. His attacks on McCain could backfire on him and if he attacks Palin it could be worse.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 12, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm

“Sarah Palin should spare us the phony sentiment and respect. Governor Palin accused Senator Clinton of whining and John McCain laughed when a questioner referred to her by using a demeaning expletive. John McCain and Sarah Palin represent no meaningful change, just the same failed policies and same divisive, demeaning politics that has devastated the middle class,” said Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

Posted by: She | September 12, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm

Barack Obama is a creation of the corrupt Chicago political machine. Several times during his legislative career Obama has had the opportunity to speak out against and vote against the corruption in Chicago politics. Each and every time he failed to do so. He’s a charlatan; a phony. When it came to corruption in Chicago change was the furthest thing from his mind. Get the stars out of your eyes, abandon your childish celebrity worshiping, and see this man for what he really is.

Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 12, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm

Mariann Pepitone – Palin is a LIAR like McCain, well ok McCain is a PATHOLOGICAL Liar so he’s even worse

Posted by: McCain/Palin = Bush = LIRS | September 12, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm

Do the media do what you guys do to keep the horserace going — or are you generally interested in seeing this country go downhill? I ask because you seem to neglect to mention that Palin, who now continuously tries to usurp the Clinton brand, earlier this year said Clinton was “whining” during the primaries. Why no mention of that — and why the word “zings”? Speaks of “liberal” bias, I suppose. Seems bloggers have to do what people in corporate media are supposed to be getting paid for. How utterly sad.

Posted by: ndo | September 12, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm

Notice how Obama has turned to hiding behind skirts now?
He’s deliberately picking women like Wasserman-Shultz and Claire McCaskill (Hillary had enough class to refuse Obama), to come out and attack Palin for him.
If Obama wants to attack Palin (which is quite obvious at this point that he does), he should be man enough to do it himself.
McCain knew that if he picked a female running mate, it would get way under Obama’s thin skin, because of the way Obama demonstrated that he hates powerful woman with his vicious and sexist attacks on Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: OxyCon | September 12, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm

It came across to me as a calculated and superficial pander to the remaining Clinton supporters who are undecided.

Posted by: Amy T | September 12, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm

Mariann what do you mean after the public got to know her. We still don’t know her. And what attacks by Obama are you talking about. McCain seems to be the one with all the negative and false ads. Seems McCain is just using Palin in these ads because he doesn’t want to talk about the real issues that effect this country.

Posted by: annie | September 12, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm

Palin is setting herself up to be on the receiving end for one hell of a zinger in that debate with Biden. Heh…heh…heh…

Posted by: Hesiod | September 12, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm

I listened to the final interview with Gibson and Palin. Palin answered every question asked without hesitation. But Obama hesitates or stutters sometimes in answering questions and she was forthright. I am hoping she starts to campaign again soon because the days are going by fast and they have to campaign in CA,NY,NJ,PA,OH,NV,NM,SD,WVA and other states. And time is starting to run out.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 12, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm

As women find out more about Sarah Palin, they like her less.
And the pandering to Hillary just remands them why.

Posted by: Hesiod | September 12, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm

Yep that our girl. We are very proud of her. We are all voiting twice so she can win. I am not sure what happened to what his name running with her. Hopefully he is still on the ticket.

Posted by: Hottopics | September 12, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm

Word is that Obama will not win Ohio ot Virgina.
Bye Barack

Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 12, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm

Mariann Pepitone,
“I listened to the final interview with Gibson and Palin. Palin answered every question asked without hesitation. But Obama hesitates or stutters sometimes in answering questions and she was forthright.”
All I can say is some people must have selective hearing! She sounded rehearsed. It also looked like the interview was cut/pasted back together. Gibson was good, but Palin was stale.
Obama 08!

Posted by: Common Sense | September 12, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm

The DNC did not vet Obama

Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 12, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm

Keith what word is that.

Posted by: d | September 12, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm

Yes. Obama actually thinks about what he is going to say and hasn’t rehearsed a bunch of nonsense when he answers a question.
Normal people stammer and hesitate when they talk.

Posted by: Hesiod | September 12, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm

Annie: Apparently you are not up todate on politics. Obama just put out two new ads attacking McCain. And I don’t need to get to know her, McCain has to do that and he did. And what issues are you talking about? The economy? Foreclosures are the fault of the buyers and mortgage houses. The mortgage houses are at fault for giving a loan with 5 to 10% down. If you don’t have 30% to 40% down don’t buy. Don’t blame the president for everything that happens in this country. He doesn’t put the price on food or gas.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 12, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm

If Palin was stale, then Obama must be a infection. His stammering last night at the forum was evident of his inability to lead. That ad about MCain and computers is terribly done and frankly made me laugh at his terrible campaign ideas.
The Chosen One
Not for me

Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 12, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm

Biden himself has said
Hillary is better. BO
made a mistake. But he
can correct it. Biden
steps aside. Hillary
joins the ticket.
Good judgment is also
about quickly rectifying
a bad one.

Posted by: anon | September 12, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm

Of course the notion that Sarah Palin has anything in common with Hillary Clinton beyond being a female politician is truly insulting to thinking people everywhere.

Posted by: Paul Dirks | September 12, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm

Hesiod: Obama is lucky he can give a direct answer. Yes, he does have to think because he doesn’t know the answer off hand like Hillary and McCain. Even Biden and Palin can answer quicker than Obama. He lost every debate and lost the interview at the forum.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 12, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm

d, the word that I get as an Ohio pollster

Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 12, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm

Obama should have listened to the 18 million voters who wanted Clinton and put her on the ticket.
If Obama loses this race, it will be his own fault for not doing that.
McCain did the smart thing and filled the void. I don’t think he would have chosen Palin if Clinton were the VP because there would have been too direct a comparison. People would have looked to the seasoned pro, and been willing to take a chance on Obama.
What a mistake Obama has made…

Posted by: Vnd | September 12, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm

anon: Obama can’t change from Biden to Hillary. Whoever he picks he has to keep. And he didn’t want Hillary to begin with because of Bill Clinton however now he needs him because he is so desperate he doesn’t know what to do. He thought he was president now but got fooled.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 12, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm

I am not at all a Hillary fan, but to even remotely suggest that Palin is another Hillary is completely laughable. As Hillary herself said,
“Choosing a Republican [that is, McCain/Palin] to clean up this mess is like asking an iceberg to save the Titanic.” Palin is amusing entertainment, a distraction.

Posted by: Pat Monsen | September 12, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm

If Obama had picked Clinton, Palin would still be in Alaska shooting wolves from airplanes, firing people for not following up on her personal vendettas, listening to a speaker at her church claim that the Isreali’s are subject to terrorist attacks because they won’t convert to Christianity, and seeking earmarks to study crabs.

Posted by: Brooklyn Democrat | September 12, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm

Right you are, Sarah Palin. Don’t expect Hillary to support you comments publicly, but in her heart, she absolutely agrees. And let the media keep digging their hole. It is no longer a case of voting for or against candidates, it is about voting against a corrupt media that is clearly perceived to be in the pocket of one candidate.

Posted by: dbc | September 12, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm

Had Obama picked Clinton as his VP, I’m certain that McCain would never have picked such an intellectual lightweight and inexperienced empty suit as Palin while Repub women like Condoleeza Rice and Kay Bailey Hutchinson were standing by. McCain’s choice of VP clearly shows his idea of tokenism at its worst: he though he could attract the votes of all women, no matter their political views, by picking an ultraconservative reactionary like Palin.

Posted by: chuck | September 12, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm

The word I get, Keith, from my sources o the ground in Ohio is that Obama is going to blow the doors off Kerry’s 2004 turnout numbers.
So, unless McCain exceeds Bush’s numbers by at least 5% — he loses Ohio, polls or no polls.

Posted by: Hesiod | September 12, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm

Vnd: I don’t think so. Even if Obama picked Hillary McCain would have picked Palin. She is a big drawing card and may have outdone Hillary with the crowds. Hillary is favored by women voters however it doesn’t mean that she would win over Palin. When Hillary was campaigning she drew crowds however Palin drew bigger crowds campaigning with McCain. So it would be a tricky situation.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 12, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm

Mariann Pepiton,
Give it up already. The only similarities between Clinton and Palin is that they both tell whopper sized lies. At least Clinton recognized that she got caught in a lie and made an excuse. Palin didn’t even admit that she made one.

Posted by: Common Sense | September 12, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm

Campaign McCain has come up
with a new strategy to promote
Palin.
Yes, she doesn’t know a lot
of facts and figures and there
are gaps in her knowledge about
many things. She’s just like
us. A work in progress.
That’s all the more reason why
you should vote for her.

Posted by: anon | September 12, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm

I’ve said it once, I’ll say it again – America will get the President they deserve.

Posted by: Lisa | September 12, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm

Talk all you want to Obamabots. He is not winning Ohio or Virgina. For a very good reason.
Think About It.
The thing you forgot.

Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 12, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm

Pat, you’re right, Sarah Palin is no Hillary Clinton. From my perspective, she’s also no Maggie Thatcher, no Golda Meir, no Indira Gandhi, etc. Maybe she’s an Eva Peron (“seduced a nation”), but then even Evita was smarter than Gov. Palin.

Posted by: Pacific moderate | September 12, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm

Ha ha!
What a dumb statement from POllen.
Is the election over?
Has McCaint won the election? lol
Sarah Pollen hasn’t got much intelligence; and she of very little intelligence is trying to stir up trouble; BUT ONLY AMONG LOST PUMAs! lol
Obama made the best choice considering.

Posted by: Patriot | September 12, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm

Biden says stuff like that because he is an honestly nice guy. What a class act.

Posted by: Mike | September 12, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm

Deena Larsen,
Thank you for the video and news article. What a flake this Palin woman is. Ready to lead my foot. That video tells shows her leadership skill, alright. She couldn’t even stand up to unknown radio jocks, yet she’s supposed to stand up for us?!

Posted by: Common Sense | September 12, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm

Chuck: Hutchinson is far too old to be the VP. I don’t even think she is capable. And Rice wouldn’t do it anyway because Obama is half black and she is black and the odds are she would be campaigning against half of her own race. I believe McCain didn’t want Rice anyway. He interviewed Palin for at least two hours or over and then interviewed her again later. She has the same views as he does so it works out great.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 12, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm

There is no way Obama could have chosen Hillary or vise versa. Hillary spent months saying Obama was not ready to lead and had she been chosen the McCain camp would be running those ads with her saying those things non stop.

Posted by: Lauren | September 12, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm

Mariann, “what issues”. Are you kidding me. Isn’t that how we elect a president. Well that’s how I decide who to vote for. It’s not just about the economy. This country is worse off then it was 8 years. How is McCain going to be different from Bush. His ads say nothing about that. The only ads I see are him attacking Obama with lies.

Posted by: annie | September 12, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm

I don’t think alot of the Republicans understand just how subservient Mccain has become to the nutcake palinban wing of the party. This is going to be the last gasp – already everybody but the dead-enders have abandoned Bush, and it is only a naive hope that McCain is different that is keeping his campaign afloat.

Posted by: Flash Override | September 12, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm

“It is no longer a case of voting for or against candidates, it is about voting against a corrupt media that is clearly perceived to be in the pocket of one candidate.”
Well, that’s part of the heat driving the storm. The media became smug and people hate that kind of thing. It reminds them of George W. Bush.
Does Obama have regrets? If he doesn’t he is even more arrogant than supposed.
Imagine: an Alaskan housewife that no one even knew existed three weeks ago has derailed the most carefully planned and expensive campaign in American history.
That is nothing short of phenomenal.
And Americans? They love this sort of thing.
Obama’s handlers ran a rock star campaign. They’ve being beaten by a folk singer.
Go Navy!!

Posted by: len | September 12, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm

Pacific Moderate: Your right she isn’t any one of those women thank god for that. We don’t need old ladies as VP’s and they were old. She is a fresh new face and you and Patriot are just madder than heck because your chosen one, the Messiah Obama is losing the ground and he is so mad he has two new ads attacking McCain that are out today. I can’t wait until the debate between bad mouth Biden and Palin on October 2nd. I am betting she will throw rings around him.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 12, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm

The curtains are about to close on Obama. The show is ending and the credits will start to dissappear and the star will have to bow out and find another theater to prance around in.
MCCAIN PALIN 08 ALL THE WAY!

Posted by: Anna in AZ | September 12, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm

Why did Sarah Palin think she could be a good VP?

Posted by: doug | September 12, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm

It’s females ‘biting off their nose to spite their face’ syndrome. It doesn’t make sense to vote for a candidate based on whether the candidate does or doesn’t have male anatomy. No doubt if Sen. Clinton wants to be Secretary of State or some such…Sen. Obama will have some great options to consider. You see folks, the sad thing is, that a vote for Palin isn’t just bad in its own right (my silly Aunt Mae is also very entertaining, but that doesn’t mean she should be elected to the White House), it would also mean we’d get stuck with four more years of the same (Palin and McCain are both endorsed Republicans). No thanks. We can do better.

Posted by: Jordan Davidson | September 12, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm

Keith I really don’t know about Ohio but Obama has an excellent chance to win in Va. The demographics have really changed these past couple of years.

Posted by: annie | September 12, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm

If Obama had picked Hillary, there is no way McCain would have picked Palin. Doesn’t she know the Republicans are just using her? Pretty sad.
And if Obama had picked Hillary, McCain would be running nasty ads against her too. Bringing up all the scandals of the Clinton years, digging up knew scandals, you name it.
Remember it was Hillary who coined the term, “vast right-wing conspiracy”. This is why Obama couldn’t pick her. The Republicans are nastier this election because they know they have nothing to run on.

Posted by: cincyr | September 12, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm

No space to compare Obama’s desires for our country, and political stance, and how it directly compares to Marxism(class struggle/envy/warfare, for example), socialism and the desire to redistribute income(Reps are guilty too, just not NEAR as much; but basically the concept of taking the power of the dollar away from the one who earned it, and giving it to government, who will then redistribute. This IS Obama’s desire. Health care control will be a BIG step towards it. He is NO capitalist

Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 12, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm

Good bye Obama, it was nice knowing you. Fade into the woodwork now. And please take Trapper with you.

Posted by: JA | September 12, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm

Annie,
Demographics. What exactly do you mean?

Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 12, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm

len: I agree with you. Palin was an unknown to the public but Obama was a senator in congress and known. When John McCain picked her for his VP she took the public and republican’s by surprise and when she started campaigning with McCain she drew unbelieveable crowds. It stated the crowds got bigger and bigger. When she starts to campaign again his ratings will boost. I am hoping McCain wins CA, NY, NJ and OH. McCain is ahead right now. Even with Bill Clinton campaigning for him I am willing to bet she can outdraw Clinton.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 12, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm

Palin is becoming a celebrity and you know how McCain feels about celebrities.
Looks like Ms. Palin is the new Paris Hilton! She’s on the cover of People!

Posted by: Gus | September 12, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm

A guy named Keith -
The election is two months away. Why are you assuming the polls will stay as they are?
With Palin getting mixed reviews (at best) for her first interview, McCain unable to answer the tough questions from the women of “The View” (of all people!), and McCain/Palin ads/ speeches being proven to contain flat-out lies, the momentum may just turn in the opposite direction.
Plus, Todd Palin may be subpoenaed in the Troopergate investigation. That could be interesting.
Sure, they might win, but don’t count your chickens before they hatch.

Posted by: Anita | September 12, 2008, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm

One mans ultraconservative reactionary is anothers mainstream candidate

Posted by: smith | September 12, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm

Anita, I am not counting chickens but Obama is like I said inside information.
The thing you guys forgot.

Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 12, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm

Now that Bush has gone into Pakistan, it is time for McCain to step up and criticize him for it. Especially since they aren’t even taking out terrorists.
(Remember McCain criticized Obama for wanting to strike terrorists inside Pakistan)
Ayesha Ijaz Khan says:
“A pattern is beginning to emerge. Every time the Pakistani military and local tribal forces in Pakistan’s north form a successful alliance in the fight against terrorism, US forces launch offensives striking civilians in the area, thereby undermining the Pakistan military’s credibility vis a vis its own population and sabotaging the effectiveness of the joint strategy to combat terrorism in the region.”
US forces are hitting civilians because the White House needs a scapegoat for their failure in the region.
Its time for McCain and stand up for what he says he believes in, now – before more innocent lives are lost.

Posted by: Flash Override | September 12, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm

Northern Virginia is right across the bridge from DC. A lot of young professionals have moved there. It’s become very democratic. And in recent years they have elected dems such as Warner, Webb and Kaine. Years ago Va would have never elected any dem. I realize though that the Shenandoah area will remain republican. But it does seem to be moving closer and closer to a democratic state. It may not happen this election, although I’m not counting it out yet, but I bet a dem wins the state in 2012.

Posted by: annie | September 12, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm

Palin enjoyed two weeks of
divinity conferred upon her
by political image makers.
Now we find that she’s a mere
mortal like the rest of us.
She has to read voraciously,
think hard and work hard if
she wants a top job like Veep.

Posted by: anon | September 12, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm

Michael Goodwin said on CNN that Obama may trade Biden in for Clinton. I thought that was interesting in light of Biden saying Clinton may have been a better choice. Anyway I hope women will vote for Nader/Gonzalez instead of Mccain.

Posted by: Nader/Gonzalez08 | September 12, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm

doug: Why does Biden think he is a good VP. Its a two way street. If I was Obama I would worry about Biden’s mouth. It could get him in trouble as stated before. God help us if Obama got elected. You better go to church and pray for this country.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 12, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm

I bet he does regret it. Poor biden can’t get coverage to dave his life. Even if McCain had still picked Palin after Obama picked Hillry, hillary would still be getting more coverage because they media would love girl vs girl action, they keep trying to prod Hillary into attacking Palin. Meanwhile Hillary keeps her promise and campaigns for Obama this past monday in florida, and this Sunday she should be in Ohio.

Posted by: rachel | September 12, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm

Biden himself has said
Hillary is better. BO
made a mistake. But he
can correct it. Biden
steps aside. Hillary
joins the ticket.
Good judgment is also
about quickly rectifying
a bad one.

Posted by: anon | September 12, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm

Can someone tell me what Sarah is going to reform? She sounds more like an opportunist than a reformer.
How is she going to do it when she can’t even face the media. Osama is laughing in his cave right now.

Posted by: truebluemata | September 12, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm

BARACK OBAMA’S ACCOMPLISHMENTS
1.Obama has written two self-serving books
2.Editor of the Harvard law review, a student job, during which time he wrote only one anonymous note
3.Served 8 years in a state legislature, which is a collegial, not an executive position, and in which he did not distinguish himself
4.Been a law professor who left no tracks whatsoever
5. Spent almost his entire time in the US Senate running for the Presidency
6.Worked as an associate in a small law firm (associates are never managerial);
7. Been a community organizer (whatever that means).
8. His one executive experience was a complete bust: Despite being a nothing and a nobody at the time, he was put in charge of a $100,000,000 project to improve Chicago schools. Although he effectively channeled money to his political friends, the program made not a bit of difference to Chicago’s profoundly damaged educational institutions.
In terms of performance outcome, an undistinguished one.

Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 12, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm

A guy named Keith -
I’m not sure exactly what you meant to say in your reply to me. What is this “inside information?” You know everyone in Ohio and Virginia and how they plan to vote?
I’ll bet you say you know this for a fact but can’t reveal the source.

Posted by: Anita | September 12, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm

I really and truly can’t wait to see the fun Saturday Night Live will have portraying Palin (moose-hunting, gun-toting, sarcastic, scandal-ridden, small-town-mayor who can “see Russia from some parts of Alaska”). It’s gonna be an absolute hoot. Gotta love it!! Thanks Sarah. :)

Posted by: Peyton L | September 12, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm

I thought she was pretty clear that HRC was a whiner. Biden was the best pick to bring balance to the ticket. There will be a woman President in my lifetime, likely in the next 20 years. It may or may not be HRC, THERE ARE OTHERS OUT THERE!!! That is all that Palin brings to the ticket and it is not enough. Obama is the first non-white candidate I’ll vote for, Sharpton and Jackson were running as the black candidate, and that is why they could never win, Obama is running as a candidate who happens to e black. There is a difference. Both HRC and Palin both put their gender first, and that is not the way to win, that is not a qualification.

Posted by: Danny | September 12, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm

Sorry Virgina is already leaning McCain

Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 12, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm

Of course I won’t say the source (Ha Ha)
I am for McCain.

Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 12, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm

Sorry Virgina is already leaning McCain
Not by much though and things could change quickly.

Posted by: annie | September 12, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm

Obama is pulling offices out of Georgia and North Carolina.

Posted by: USVet | September 12, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm

Have you ever noticed those around Obama have had terrible things come out about them after they put their foot in their mouth supporting him publicly, and now its costing them career and money trouble ? hmmmmmm. just something i have noticed.
MCCAIN AND PALIN LOOKING BETTER AND BETTER!

Posted by: trish | September 12, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm

Anita,
If you are in Ohio, you’d know that Obama has done ZERO work in southern Ohio. Think AA’s and college students will put him over the top in Ohio? Nope.
Obama has lost Ohio.
In fact, he is closing offices and sending staff from Ohio, Georgia, and North Carolina to try and hold Pennsylvania.

Posted by: US Vet | September 12, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm

Trish, LOL or DYING like Bernie Mac. Obama has a trail of wreckage that follows him
Clinton
Alice Palmer
Jesse Jackson
Rezko
Ayers

Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 12, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm

Clinton supporter to Palin: “spare us the phony sentiment”

Alex Koppelman – Salon
As previously noted, in her interview with Charlie Gibson broadcast Friday night, Sarah Palin said of Barack Obama’s choice not to go with Hillary Clinton as his running mate, “I think he’s regretting not picking her now, I do. What, what determination, and grit, and even grace through some tough shots that were fired her way, she handled those well.”

That prompted a pretty devastating response from Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.), who was a prominent supporter of Clinton’s during the Democratic primaries. In a statement sent out by the Obama campaign, Wasserman Schultz said, “Sarah Palin should spare us the phony sentiment and respect. Governor Palin accused Senator Clinton of whining and John McCain laughed when a questioner referred to her by using a demeaning expletive.”

Posted by: cs | September 12, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm

danny Hillary did not put her gender first. The media and Obama camp did. Obama saying her claws come out, some from his camp calling her a monster. Fox saying she was pimping out Chelesa. The medaia’s stupid fixation on her paintsuits, complaining she showed no emotion then complaining she showed too much by tearing up, some one from obama camp comparing her to cruela de ville. It was shameful and noone spoke up for her, but they sure spoke up to paint her as racist when she said that MLK needed LBJ to make the civil rights law. The Obama camp was mum and said oh we dont know what she meant by that even though Yesterday Obama admitted that without goverment there would be no civil rights. I will probably vote for Obama but until he apologizes I will have no joy in voting for him.

Posted by: rachel | September 12, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm

McCain, wether elected or not will regret picking a hot head, who talks before she thinks. She is not hillary. GOP wanted Hillary so they could chew her another a/h. Palin is a Puppet for the GOP. Most women are smarter then men (McCain). they will vote on the issues. To vote gender is as bad. as a African American, I have voted the whole spectrum. The best person gets my vote Dem or GOP, but not driven by a bias.
obama / Biden 08

Posted by: sal | September 12, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm

Obama needs one big pooper scooper…he leaves quite a messy trail behind him!..maybe he should try Angel soft.

Posted by: trish | September 12, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm

The Obama team needs to stop with the “spare me” comments. They sound like bratty highschool children.

Posted by: s.b. | September 12, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm

I am democratic and i am voting McCain to shut up mouth of Macho DNC leaders.
respect woman in your act not in talking! Don’t vote DNC this year.

Posted by: hillfany | September 12, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm

OBAMA is about OBAMA…and anyone who votes for him is just a “number” to him. It is funny how people complain about Palin being in the news so much and people going wild over her…..uh…January through August having the bias media shove OBAMA down our throats wasn`t enough for you?…just something else i noticed going on. And to think…they called Hillary a whiner?…..hmmmmm.

Posted by: trish | September 12, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm

cs listened to the whole interview and Palin said that she thinks Obama regrets choosing Biden over Hillary. She praised Hillary and said she would be a good VP. Read it on the internet. The trouble with a lot of women today is they are jealous of Palin because she became a mayor then governor now VP at an early age and they are mad at themselves for not accomplishing what she did. Their jealousy is out of hating themselves.I believe even if Obama picked Hillary McCain would have picked Palin and with the crowds that Palin draws she would outdraw Hillary. And the crowds have got bigger and bigger.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 12, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm

As you watch people lose their homes, their jobs and struggle to pay for health care.. remember, McSame voted with Bush 90% of the time.
OBAMA!!

Posted by: Gus | September 12, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm

McCain ready for change, he picked a woman…and a dang good one! Something the dems wouldn`t do. So now HERE WE ARE!!!!!!!! AND You can still smell the fear in the dem party since the very second McCain did it. Palin will be a great VP or President!

Posted by: trish | September 12, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm

Four more years….is that what you want? You want our country so far down in the pits that we’ll never get out???I wouldn’t care if the dogcatcher ran against McCain…at least it would be a change from the past 8 years. McCain might have been a maverick at one time, but lets face it, all his policies are right from the republican play book. And Sarah Palin pleases the right wing base, as did GWBush. Did the republicans do anything for the Christian right? They used you and they will be glad to use you again. And you drink the kool aid willingly for a pretty face from Alaska.
Lets do something for our country. Don’t give us four more years of the policies that have tortured us for the past eight.

Posted by: yybbbaa | September 12, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm

As you watch people lose their homes, their jobs and struggle to pay for health care.. remember, McSame voted with Bush 90% of the time
_____________________________________
I haven’t lost either of my homes
I have excellent healthcare
I have a great job and lots of money
I thank God for my prosperity.
Unlike what you Obamabots want people to think–everyone’s life is not in crisis. He reminds me of Bush who continuously reminded people of how bad off they were. Then guess what it came true. Obama is the same.

Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 12, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm

After Part I of Charlie Gibson’s interview with the clueless Sarah Palin, does anyone really put any merit in anything this chickenhawk has to say? Perhaps chickenhawk is inappropriate, perhaps “Parrot-hawk” is more appropriate. You could almost hear the rote responses echoing in her head.

Posted by: You Shut Your Mouth When You're Talkin' To Me | September 12, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm

If you can’t use the truth effectively and if you allow mccain to dictate the terms to covering her as he’s doing than you have no power as journalists. You allowed bush to lie and manipulate the public for 8 years as he and the hillbilly fundamentalists drove this country into the ground and you’re doing it again. palin, mccain and bush don’t stand for any of my family’s values. you don’t get morality from the bible nor do you get it from a political party, society can’t exist without morals. If these jokers want to run on family values, they can only do so against total anarchists.

Posted by: jim z | September 12, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm

Someone posted something about Obama supporters bring Obama down…YES! And how they do it…well one way was the big riot going on outside the republican convention…..we didn`t see the mccain supporters carrying on like that on the news or anything…at the democrat convention….that was a disgrace and shameful! what great people Obama has as followers. NOT. PATHETIC!

Posted by: trish | September 12, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm

Palin is right. Even Biden, himself, said Obama should have picked Hillary. Its ok, though, since Obama Bin Lyin is going to lose anyway!
McCain/Palin 08!

Posted by: Timmy | September 12, 2008, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm

If Obama picked Hillary, it’d just be a different kind of attack.
I’m glad McCain picked Palin – as long as he doesn’t win!
McCain is a different man – he’d rather win an election than be ethical.
How cynical and how disappointing.

Posted by: Elcee | September 12, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm

Trish: And Obama is shaking in his boots so bad he had to call Bill Clinton to campaign for him because he is losing ground. The Clinton’s don’t like Obama. They are hoping he loses. They are just doing this for Hillary’s sake if she runs for the senate again so she don’t lose. Now Obama has two attack ads out against McCain which could backfire on him. I believe McCain will get the majority of the women vote because of Palin. She is a big drawing card and had more viewers than Obama did at the convention.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 12, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm

Hillary Clinton did not want to be vetted unless she was going to be the VP nominee. She set the ultimatum.
Hillary and Bill have a lot of money out there. And do any of you think the republicans wouldn’t have made us all relive the Clinton years, a la Monica, all over again?!

Posted by: bc46 | September 12, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm

McCain picking a woman is change, so what. The change we need is about this country. Now he says he is a reformer and not like Bush. So how is he going to be different from Bush.

Posted by: zz | September 12, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm

Hillary does not want Obama to win. Thats why she refuses to discount Palin. Hillary will run in 2012, while Obama is back in Chicago doing his community service, in lieu of jail time for dealings with Rezko!

Posted by: Kathy | September 12, 2008, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm

Truly sad, look at what our country has been reduced to.
McCain has done nothing for the military. And they have donated 6:1 for Obama. Obama has already pushed through 13 bills for Veterans/Armed Forces.
As a veteran, I’m voting for Obama. And I’m also voting for him for my granddaughter. She should have the right to decide for herself whether she has children or not.

Posted by: bc46 | September 12, 2008, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm

I am glad that Palin cannot fill Hillary Clintons shoes….apparently “party” means mre to Hillary than “Country” and Any of us”! And to think i voted for her in the Spring! Her campaigning for Obama…uh no….for the “Party”…is who she is campaigning for. And THAT is sending just that message, if you want to admit or not.

Posted by: trish | September 12, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm

Kathy, the ‘rezko’ issue was already investigated and Obama was not involved with any of his dealings. His home purchase was also found to be above board.

Posted by: bc46 | September 12, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm

What position would Hillary be better in….cabinet? supreme court?

Posted by: bc46 | September 12, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm

McCain was man enough, to chose a woman.

Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 12, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm

betty, Hillary doesn’t have a dog in this fight, so whatever she does will be limited.
I would say too that Hillary has much more class than Palin, so she won’t even mention the ‘whine’ comment.

Posted by: bc46 | September 12, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm

I’m sure Hillary and Bill will both have positions.

Posted by: zz | September 12, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm

The new kid on the block is toasting Obama. Who would have ever thought she would be able to out-Obama Obama. Funny stuff!
Looks like my prediction of a Clinton replay in four years is coming ever closer.
Ha ha, zombies.

Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | September 12, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm

bc46…The Rezko investigation is not over. That was just the beginning of the trials to come. Nobody, including Obama is out of the woods yet. If Obama becomes President, that could change because he would probably pardon his friend. One can only hope that he isn’t President. Read Eye on Rezko. It is very interesting.

Posted by: carolyn | September 12, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm

She can’t even govern her own house. Now she wants to govern america.
ha

Posted by: Omentum | September 12, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm

Democrats are doomed, the GOP will take Obama’s lunch.
Not only will he loose, he will drag with him some Congressional candidates.
Democrats can only blame themselves for going along with the faction coup against the Clintons.
Years of Clinton bashing by the GOP and the MSM finally paid off with these Democrats intoxicated with Clinton Derangement Syndrom. They were more motivated to defeat the most succesful Democrats in the primary, than they are about winning the general election now.
Hillary even offered the VP to Obama, and was derided for it. Now we know who was right.

Posted by: Rob | September 12, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm

Of course Hillary can run again, but after this election cycle, do you really think she would win?
I know I wouldn’t vote for her. Not after she let her little hurt feelings hurt the entire country.

Posted by: bc46 | September 12, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm

Obama who?

Posted by: Greg | September 12, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm

EFtheApostle: I am going to laugh when Obama takes his senate seat back after the election. And he will be crying on the way back that the election was fixed. He’s always crying about something. And big mouth Biden will be eaten up by Palin so bad he will have to hide.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 12, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm

Emm: That’s where your wrong. McCain would still pick Palin and at the rate Palin’s going with the public Hillary would lose. She is younger and a new fresh face. She is a big drawing card with the public. She draws more than Hillary did campaigning. Hillary has her women voters but when Palin started to campaign they waited in line to see her.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 12, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm

Palin sounds much more direct and much more honest than our very own Obama.

Posted by: young_voter | September 12, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm

All America loves Sarah Palin!
Obama and the DNC thrashed and trashed both Clintons during the campaign. And while Bill and Hillary have to play nice and act like they are for Obama, we have moved on from Obama and we will insure Hillary will rise again…..
McCain / Palin 2008
Hillary 2012

Posted by: Tracy | September 12, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm

when Palin started to campaign they waited in line to see her.
Because she is a novelty right now.

Posted by: zz | September 12, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm

Yes, A Guy Named Keith,
There are happy people in the world. There are many fortunate Americans who are making it, and living the American dream. And yes, there are even some of us fortunate ones who actually care about our fellow countrymen and women that are struggling, suffering, losing their jobs and homes, making the tough decision to put either gas in the car to get to work or food on the table to feed the family.
Yes, personally, I am happy. I too have a good life, healthy kids, a thriving small business, and fortunate to be able to care for my grandmother too.
And yes, I am angry too. Bingo! You got me! Angry that there are Americans out there that actually say “my life is great so to he** with the rest of you!” This is not the attitude that built this nation, but it is precisely the one that is tearing it apart at its seams. Darn straight I’m angry…and I am not alone!

Posted by: Amy T | September 12, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm

Palin’s qualifications:
Education – 6 schools in five years for a journalism degree. Wow, impressive.
Local sportcaster on TV, reading prepared lines. Nice. What depth of knowledge she has.
Never traveled outside the US, never wanted to either. Stopping over at airports doesn’t count.
Alaska is near Russia, therefore she has TONS of experience in foreign policy. Hey, I can see the moon from my window, but does that make me an astronaut?
She was mayor of a town that had no debt, then she left it $22 million in debt, and hired a federal lobbyist to get more pork $$$$. Such a reformer.
Sure sounds like she’s ready to be VP to me.

Posted by: EFThe Apostle | September 12, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm

Will you women pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease wake up and stop the insanity!!!! Just because Palin is a woman is no reason to vote for McCain!! That’s the DUMBEST excuse in the world! This country is in horrible shape (due to 8 years of republican abuse of which McCain was a part of). A vote for him is a vote for 4 or 8 more years of the same. This country cannot take anymore catering to the wealthy, shipping good American jobs overseas so that CEOs can put more money in their pockets, disastrous trade deals and a government that is only interested in the wealthiest citizens doing well! Stop being patsies and use your heads–McCain/Palin will finish the job Bush has started and destroy the middle class/working families of this country. That’s what’s at state here, nothing more, nothing less! I don’t care if I didn’t like Obama, I would vote for a rattlesnake if it were the alternative to 4 more years of republican abuse of this country and the American people!

Posted by: realitycheck | September 12, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm

Would have people felt better if Palin said Obama should not have picked Hillary? Geez, Gibson asked her a question and she gave a quick answer, why all the drama from the Obama campaign? I’m afraid of how Obama would act as president. He certainly is not the man I thought he was.

Posted by: Susan | September 12, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm

A guy named Keith said:
McCain was man enough, to chose a woman.
Nope, McCain *used* a woman. And that’s not being a man. Don’t tell me Palin was anything but a rash, last-minute decision.

Posted by: Shauna | September 12, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm

I seem to recall Nancy Pelosi always popping up throughout the primary, “this dream ticket will never be”. Just when you thought Nancy had vanished she would pop back up attacking Hillary.
As the media (read: MSNBC) attacked and attacked Hillary and made every comment she made an hour long Countdown to why she needed to go, Howard Dean stayed quiet.
Well Nancy, get ready to give up your Speaker of the House seat. There is a new sheriff coming to town.
Bye bye Democrats!
HELLO MCCAIN AND PALIN!

Posted by: Doug San Francisco | September 12, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm

Mariann – Did you watch the primaries? In states like West Virginia and Kentucky, the exit polls clearly showed that race was a factor when voters made their decision.

Posted by: Shauna | September 12, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm

What I want to know is how can Sarah Palin call herself a Christian and continue to tell lie after lie to the American people? She is setting a horrible example to her own children and mine. Good Christians do not knowingly lie and do not judge and mock others. I see Sarah Palin as a real hypocrite.

Posted by: Marion | September 12, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm

Gee, don’t these Obama people have real jobs to support themselves their families, and children that are being supported by welfare.
Those Obama people are here day and night insulting an American Hero, John McCain and Governor Sarah Palin, a hard working mother and outstanding role model.
Take care of your children Obama people and stop insulting real Americans.
Obama NEVER.

Posted by: Mrs. Phoenix | September 12, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm

In a matter of a few short weeks, McCain has managed to:
–excite the GOP base
– get more viewers to tune into the GOP convention and his and Palin’s historic speech than tuned into the messiah’s boring forgettable speech at the DNC
– jump ahead in the polls and STAY ahead to today
– according to gallup, obtain a shift of 20 points of white women from Obama to mcCain
– According to RCP, come from a double digit deficit in favorability behind Obama, to now being ahead
– change the Intrade odds of favoring Obama by 30 points, to now McCain leading.
Genius, truly genius. Obama, meanwhile is imploding and sinking, pathetically desperate, and completely mismanaging his campaign. If he can’t successfully manage his campaign, and if he has no other executive or foreign policy experience what so ever, how on earth can he manage our country?
Obama….liar, fraud, no experience, not ready to lead. No more old Washington politics with Obama/Biden/Bush.
Change Washington, reform our government, fight for America.
fight with me, patriots.
McCain/Palin 2008

Posted by: decentAmerican | September 12, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm

Obama has turned out to be the weakest candidate a party has nominated. What an embarrassment to the democratic party.

Posted by: LillyW | September 12, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm

IN A POLL AMONG REGISTERED VOTERS ONLY 5% SAID THEY WOULD NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA BECAUSE HE WAS BLACK.
5% IS NOT EVERYONE.
STOP RACE BAITING

Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 12, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm

Tracy – Not all of America loves Sarah. I don’t. Neither does anyone I know.
Funny how Obama supporters are sometimes called “Obamabots.” Aren’t we now seeing the emergence of “Sarahbots?” You hear one speech – over and over and over again- and you’re ready to follow her fresh face anywhere. A speech, btw, that she did not write.
The Gibson interviews show that the McCain campaign now has its own version of an “empty suit.”

Posted by: Shauna | September 12, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm

Another reason Obama will not win:
OBAMABOTS
If you can stomach them, read through comments here and on other forums and you can see how well Obama’s own supporters don’t even buy into his whole Hopey Changey Travelling Circus.
The BOTS have nothing positive to say about Obama or his record nor can they point to anything he has accomplished or done to shoe he would fight his own party. The BOTS just post childish taunts and “liar” “liar” and personal attacks. You can see how well the message of “change” and a “new kind of politics” have worked on them. Same thing happened when Hillary was running.

Posted by: Margaret MICHIGAN | September 12, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm

The Republicans voted against: equal pay for women, raising the minimum wage, healthcare for everyone (even children), the GI bill, affordable education, saving the environment, alternative fuels.
They may say that they’re for the poor and middle class but their voting record says differently. George W. Bush had 6 years with a Republican Congress and they passed no legislation that would help the middle class get ahead. They had no problem lowering taxes for the wealthy and deregulating corporations so they could make more profits. The Republicans are the party of greed.

Posted by: Marion | September 12, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm

Turns out that the “columns” were not the only thing fake a Obama’s speech from the temple of doom in Denver. The candidate was to!

Posted by: Brad | September 12, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm

LillyW: Ok, sure, Obama is a total embarrassment because voter registration is sky high and people are actually enthusiastic about voting for the man. On the GOP side, your party is praying for a top-of-the-ticket Coma so this other chickenhawk, who doesn’t know a lick about foreign policy can further ruin the country. Makes a lot of sense. By the way, thanks for helping elect Bush. Thanks for this last 8 years of catastrophe.

Posted by: You Shut Your Mouth When You're Talkin' To Me | September 12, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm

Mccain is a joke. Watching the Sarah Palin interview. She is a complete dunce.

Posted by: vuzous | September 12, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm

Obama pays his women less then the men. McCain pays the women more then the men. Interesting.

Posted by: WIvoter | September 12, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm

MargaretMICHIGAN: Yeah, the message of “change” and a “new kind of politics” did work well because McCain/Palin decided to use it themselves and that’s what they’re running on now.

Posted by: Charlotte | September 12, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm

Mariann…why don’t you defend Palin without tearing down Obama. Obama isn’t the nominee from the Christian Family Values party. He admits he’s not perfect. When he makes a mistake he at least will admit it. He doesn’t try to pretend he didn’t say it or do it like Palin and McCain.

Posted by: Marion | September 12, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm

A Guy Named Keith,
Believe me, the DNC has no points in my book either! And, I am glad to hear that you are charitable, as are many Americans of all financial means. However, you can not deny that there are wealthy Americans out there that don’t give a crap about anyone but themselves.
Imagine what kind of country we had if everyone actually cared and took committed action, not just lip service, to improving the lives of those less fortunate than themselves. Imagine a nation where community organizers were respected for the grass roots, in the trenches, work they do in communities where the social welfare safety net has failed hard-working but down on their luck Americans. Image a nation where people thought first of what is best for the nation as a whole than what is best for themselves and maybe the privileged few.
You are so right, this is not about race, and this is not about gender. This is about turning around a nation that has spiraled downhill for most over the past eight years of the Bush Administration. McCain/Palin is more of the same if not worse. Despite The DNC, how can you in good conscious vote for the GOP ticket if you care about your fellow citizens?

Posted by: Amy T | September 12, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm

You speak of Obama’s “associates,” how about Todd Palin’s associates in the Alaskan Separatist Party? They want to cede from America, not put it first.
No one should throw stones because every alleged criticism of Obama (radical associations, listening to hate speech in church, limited experience, etc.) can be thrown right back at Palin.

Posted by: Sandra | September 12, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm

Betty: Yes who did let the dogs out. Are you talking about Obama? Well, while your speaking about dogs, let me go on record to say that Hyde Park was a neighborhood that was gone to the dogs until they cleaned it up. It was filthy, smelly and completely run down so bad a California based bank closed its doors. And if Obama did community organizing he didn’t go to the Englewood neighborhood. He didn’t even want to go into Philadelphia while champaigning in PA. He was afraid of the dogs in case they let them out.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 12, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm

So Palin can attack Obama all she wants and get by with it,but he dare not defend himself for fear of beating up on a woman.Palin is a smug,arrogant witch.If she chooses to step into a mans shoes..she should be treated as such….no kid gloves.Ask her the tought questions…just like any male candidate would be asked.She is glad Hillary is not in the race.I would have voted for Hillary…if she had not been married to a man named “Bill’.

Posted by: orangecat | September 12, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm

Actually Betty, you’re right. There were no minorities at the republican convention. It was so obvious you couldn’t help but notice.

Posted by: zz | September 12, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm

A cult of personality or personality cult arises when a country’s leader uses mass media to create a heroic public image through unquestioning flattery and praise. Cults of personality are often found in dictatorships but can be found in some democracies.
A cult of personality is similar to general hero worship except that it is created specifically for political leaders.

Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 12, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm

“The point I was making was not that Grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn’t. But she is a typical white person…” — Barack Obama
This is a racist statement

Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 12, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm

I’m actually GLAD Barack Obama didn’t offer VP to Hillary. And if he had, I would have earnestly wished that she rejected it out of hand.
I support Hillary FOR PRESIDENT, nothing less! McCain and Palin are plenty fine for me for one term.
And as for 2012, we certainly don’t want to be getting ahead of ourselves, but Hillary and Jim Webb would make an outstanding team, I think. What do you guys think about Hillary running with Senator Webb as independents in 2012, regardless of who wins this election?? She could do it without the Democratic Party, don’t you think??

Posted by: Scott | September 12, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm

I cannot WAIT until Obama loses, not because I have anything against him, but because I hate his nasty supporters so very, very much.
Well that’s having the country’s best interest at heart. I’m glad we all don’t base our vote on the canidate’s supporters.

Posted by: zz | September 12, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm

0bama’s latest “issue’s related” attack ad was trying to belittle McCain for not using email.
This has nothing to do with his war injuries. McCain even said he has never sent an email because he doesn’t know how.

Posted by: zz | September 12, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm

That anit-mccain ad was terrible and most likely alienated some older voters. Obama’s campaign is run like kindergarten.

Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 12, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm

Sara was awsome in her interview and Charlie Gibson was such a jerk! The beginning of the interview was truly a commercial for Obama. His interview with Obama was Oh how did you meet Michelle, was it love at first sight…
No worries Charlie, Sara kicked your ass!

Posted by: JWiz | September 12, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm

Betty do you realize that African Americans make up about 14% of the US population and most of them live in Southern States that are going red for McCain in November?

Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 12, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm

Where IS Hillary? Is she a Democrat or not? Is gender solidarity so important to her that she isn’t campaigning against a ticket that is diametrically opposed to everything that she and the Democratic Party stands for? If Obama loses the election, many of us who support him will blame Hillary — and will sit out 2012 rather than vote for her if she’s on the ticket.

Posted by: Alex | September 12, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm

I am a Democrat voting McCain/Palin.
The DNC is corrupt and I don’t trust
a word Obama says. Our boy is an officer in the Marines in Iraq for the 3rd time. He also told us to vote McCain. He respects and is fine with Palin being Vice President. He just says NO OBAMA.

Posted by: Dean | September 12, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm

Palin can’t have it both way’s a hockey mom that every mother can relate to,who’s down to earth,who can juggle family and work even if she did pay her self for work at home.So what you are saying is every working mom that has a family can be a vp.Or is she’s that tough,fiesty women that took on her own party and shook up something’s like the good old boy’s kind of women who have proven her self in a mans world then why hide her or keep her hip to hip with mccain,O i forgot she’s round’s up the crowd for him.Have she or not proven she can handle the job and what comes with the territory. Put her out there alone like everybody else to stand her grounds.In alaska she’s used to her way or else you get fired.Tell me why mccain is not in the spot light.You do need to give him credit,he won back all the not so sure or not going to vote reps before palin was added to the ticket.But in the end even if he did use her he still would win.So who did he really out smart dems or reps.The real issue is not about her being a women with a family it’s about her having the same belief’s as mccain well some of them anyway.So no one need an excuse to vote for mccain.If you to bias out of politics tell me what would we have a fair race because it would be about issue not popularity. OBAMA/BIDEN

Posted by: babywawe | September 12, 2008, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm

A Guy Named Keith,
So wouldn’t Obama already have to already be the leader to create this?
So wouldn’t Obama have had to have control and censorship authority over all the media to create this…remember the New Yorker cartoon?
So wouldn’t Obama have had to have the ability to silence all us vocal Clinton supporters, and all the vocal McCain supporters now to accomplish this…certainly there has been questioning of him and plenty of unflattery things said?
So, wouldn’t Obama have to have control over all these Blogs, FactCheck, etc. to pull this off?
This cult of personality you speak of clearly existed/exists for Fidel Castro, Adolf Hitler, General Than Shwe, and Kim Jong-il. But, I think you are stretching to apply this to Obama. You give him a lot more credit that I can muster. If you truly believe that he is capable of creating all this than he is much smarter and much more powerful than I think.
I give Senator Obama credit for being an articulate, educated, and knowledgeable politician, with a very experienced running mate, whose proposals, positions, and past legislative stances are much more in line with my own views than those of McCain/Palin. Was he my first choice – nope. Do I personally like Obama…not so much. However, do I believe Obama/Biden is a better choice for our nation than McCain/Palin …absolutely!
This is really what it means to be “Country First!”

Posted by: Amy T | September 12, 2008, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm

Alex, this is Obama’s race to win or lose and he will do that on his own merits. I am not voting for him but Hillary has been through many campaigns, including her own I don’t think it is fair to blame anything on her. If she runs in 2012 and that if, so many things can happen between now and then. Gore never ran again.

Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 12, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm

But, I think you are stretching to apply this to Obama. You give him a lot more credit that I can muster. If you truly believe that he is capable of creating all this than he is much smarter and much more powerful than I think.
____________________________________
I don’t agree with you. Many cults of personality have a narrowed perspective. Also they are not controlling anything it is populous driven. Lenin was actually very reluctant of this status. Obama has embraced it. I dismiss him as a sycophant who has taken advantage of the situation. However it is not working anymore due to a miscalculation on his part.

Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 12, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm

To A Descent American.
Well Said!!! There are more of us than there are hater/victims like Betty.
Down with the O!!!!

Posted by: Scott | September 12, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm

The democrats chose Obama and Obama in turn chose Biden. After branding the Clintons as racists, Obama crawled his way to Harlem to seek help from the ‘First Black President’. Revenge is a dish best served cold, and it may well be Hillary versus Sarah in 2012!

Posted by: Phil | September 12, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm

The discussion of Palin’s worthiness or readiness to be VP is almost fruitless. Palin supporters are absolutely set in their opinions, are going to deny every fact about the inconsistencies in her claims and, when pushed, will ultimately respond with nothing more substantial or intelligent than insults or racist comments about whether Obama’s black or white. (What a ridiculous and narrow minded response.) My question is why anyone who supported Hillary would even consider giving Palin and McCain their vote. How is there any room whatsoever in former Hillary supporters’ political beliefs to switch their support to McCain? Despite a very slick, very negative and highly inaccurate ad campaign (the true forte of the Republicans), the facts remain: McCain may have been a maverick at one time but, aside from stand out issues like torture and immigration (a position which he’s since abandoned), he’s sold out. He’s not a maverick any longer. He’s stood with Bush on 9 out of 10 issues. 9 out of 10! Just look at his stance: McCain’s for continuing the war in Iraq ad infinitum, is opposed to Roe v Wade, is pro-gun, is anti-diplomacy–look at his stance on Iran and his reaction to Georgia, wants to privatize health care, wants to privatize Social Security (his idea was to invest SS funds in the sub-prime mortgage market–talk about bad judgment! but we don’t hear about that, do we?), voted against changes in the VA bill which would have improved benefits for veterans, wants to make the tax cuts permanent, wants to provide vouchers for public education, and on and on and on. I can only assume Palin’s platform is somewhat the same as McCain’s–although I can’t be sure since she apparently can’t really be nailed down on any policy statement, including the truth of her own record. Regardless, NONE of what McCain stands for is in agreement with Hillary’s platform. None of it. And Obama’s platform is almost identical to hers. Doesn’t that mean anything to you? IF not, why did you support Hillary in the first place? Because she’s a woman? If so, speaking as a woman myself, that’s an insult to Hillary as a politican and reduces her to nothing more than a symbol–and she’s worth a whole lot more than that. So, assuming you recognize Hillary’s value, you must have another reason for voting for McCain, and I can only assume it’s because he’s not Obama. But if that’s the case…think about what you’re doing. You’re casting your vote for a ticket that stands against EVERYTHING Hillary believes. You’re allowing yourself to be manipulated by the very same political machine that tied up President Clinton’s administration with eight years of special prosecutors only to turn around and bring Washington to a state of corruption we haven’t seen in over 80 years. You’re doing EXACTLY what the Rove machine hoped you would do. You’re playing into their hands. And you’re hurting the Democratic party–Hillary’s party, Bill Clinton’s party and, yes, Obama’s party–in a way that might be difficult to repair. This is OUR election. This is OUR time. Don’t give the power to these people for another 4 years–the world is such a dangerous place, there’s no telling where we could be in 2012. But more than that, don’t trivialize everything we’ve worked for, everything we’ve come to represent for the last 19 months by swallowing the Republican line. There’s no place in that party’s platform for people who think beyond a very, very narrow place. There’s no room in that party’s ticket for anyone who TRULY supported what Hillary Clinton believes.

Posted by: Priscilla | September 12, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm

The Obamabots made their own decisions and yet expect Hillary supporters and Hillary and Bill to get them out of a jam later. The DNC did not nominate her, they alienated many of her supporters yet now they need us in order for them to get what they want.

Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 12, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm

Yep. The day after 9/11, as part of its “get tough” makeover, the Obama campaign is mocking John McCain for not using a computer, without caring why he doesn’t use a computer. From the AP story about the computer illiterate ad:
“Our economy wouldn’t survive without the Internet, and cyber-security continues to represent one our most serious national security threats,” [Obama spokesman Dan] Pfeiffer said. “It’s extraordinary that someone who wants to be our president and our commander in chief doesn’t know how to send an e-mail.”
Well, I guess it depends on what you mean by “extraordinary.” The reason he doesn’t send email is that he can’t use a keyboard because of the relentless beatings he received from the Viet Cong in service to our country. From the Boston Globe (March 4, 2000):
McCain gets emotional at the mention of military families needing food stamps or veterans lacking health care. The outrage comes from inside: McCain’s severe war injuries prevent him from combing his hair, typing on a keyboard, or tying his shoes. Friends marvel at McCain’s encyclopedic knowledge of sports. He’s an avid fan – Ted Williams is his hero – but he can’t raise his arm above his shoulder to throw a baseball.
In a similar vein I guess it’s an outrage that the blind governor of New York David Patterson doesn’t know how to drive a car. After all, transportation issues are pretty important. How dare he serve as governor while being ignorant of what it’s like to navigate New York’s highways.
WHAT A FRAUD THIS OBAMA IS

Posted by: dave | September 12, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm

As a former Hillary supporter, I can’t believe Obama didn’t pick her for VP. It was a huge mistake. No one would have worked harder or defended him more than Hillary if he’d have given her the opportunity to put that ‘grit’ to work for him. Instead, his ego got in the way and now he’s paying the political price.
I liked Palin on 20/20 tonight. She’s direct and straightforward. She did well.

Posted by: Anne | September 12, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm

*yawn* another bias plug for liberal ABC
McCain had Sarah Palin as a choice for VP long before she was announced. Of course you would have to do some searching to know this, but I realize it’s easier to just make smear comments. NObama wants to tax the heck out of the rich, but is he too stupid to realize that it’s the rich that provide the jobs and if he raises their taxes so he can provide more social programs(which we certainly don’t need)what do you think they are going to do? For those that can think you are correct the cost of the goods the rich sell will go up to cover the extra taxes they will have to pay. NObama can’t do anything but stammer …uh uh uh without a teleprompter. Sarah Palin did not stammer, she did great. She’s a remarkable woman as is Hillary and you can bet we will see two women running on the ticket come 2012. But this independent will be voting for McCain/Palin 08. Hey ABC correct your poll results. Your guy is going down in the polls.

Posted by: Dixie | September 13, 2008, 12:01 am 12:01 am

But, A Guy Named Keith, voting McCain/Palin is like cutting off your head because you don’t like the taste of the medicine! If the medicine will have some positive efficacy, with a Democratic Congress, than isn’t it worth choking down?

Posted by: Amy T | September 13, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am

Anne, she was also very likable. I think she did very well in the interview. She was no shrinking violet. I have seen Charlie in interviews before and he has never been that drilling, sometime she could not get out one answer before he went on to the next question.

Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 13, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am

Priscilla, You are so intelectual!!! Has it ever occurred to you that some people were not die hard supporters of Hillary. They were on the fence, and now faced with an empty suite like Obama, they chose to support an honest strong successful woman. You are right, it is not about race, it is about ideas, morals, and values. None of which Obama or many in the democratic party have.

Posted by: scott | September 13, 2008, 12:05 am 12:05 am

No Amy because I genuinely think that McCain will make a better leader and that Obama would be disastrous. At the end of the day he can have as many DNC/liberal policies that he wants to. If he is an ineffective leader then it won’t matter much. Also his record in Illinois is not impressive.

Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 13, 2008, 12:05 am 12:05 am

I hate to do it, but it is so tempting and easy:
Many of Palin’s answers made about as much sense as putting lipstick on a pig.

Posted by: hmm? | September 13, 2008, 12:07 am 12:07 am

Unlike John McCain’s congratulations video he put out when Barack Obama made his acceptance speech as the first black presidential nominee for the democratic party, Obama did not congratulate McCain’s vice president pic, Sarah Palin, for being the first Republican woman to get picked as a Vice Presidential running mate.
The real Obama started to rear its ugly head as he released the following statement:
“Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency. Governor Palin shares John McCain’s commitment to overturning Roe v. Wade, the agenda of Big Oil and continuing George Bush’s failed economic policies, that’s not the change we need, it’s just more of the same.”
Obama is showing his elitist arrogance again.
Obama is bashing small town America, and worse he’s bashing, rather than congratulating, a woman who has a chance on becoming the first woman Vice President of the United States of America.
Obama is for Obama, not for America, and especially not for women in America.
This isn’t the first time Obama has disrespected women.
At least Palin has two things that Obama doesn’t have, and those are good judgment as well as executive experience as a state Governor.
Palin has a near 90% voter approval rating by voters in Alaska.
Palin also has a strong record for fighting government corruption, while Obama appears to embrace it.
Obama has associations with criminals like his political fund-raiser Antoin Rezko (Tony) who was sentenced to federal prison, racists and America haters like reverend Jeremiah Wright, and terrorists like William (Bill) Ayers.
So, keep slinging the mud with your hate and desperation, Obama.
Keep on showing your disrespect and contempt for women, especially white women who happen to oppose you and your politics.
Many of them may be bitter and cling to their religion and their guns, much as you labeled people in Pennsylvania.
But, they listen.
And they understand.
We are all listening.
Anybody But Obama…

Posted by: Jayhawk | September 13, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am

Keith, do you sincerely believe that Palin will be a qualified leader if she is one of the 20% of VPs that needs to step into the presidency? This is not just McCain vs Obama…please look at the whole ticket.

Posted by: Amy T | September 13, 2008, 12:10 am 12:10 am

I can not believe how bama is now asking the Clintons for their help. I realize Hillary is doing what she needs to do because she is trying to pay off her $20 million debt, but I bet she votes McCain/Palin. I also can’t believe how obama is saying McCain doesn’t know how to use a computor. So what? Not everybody cares to learn how to use a computor. My 75 year old mother certainly isn’t interested in how to use one. She has more things to do besides get on a computor. Hillary got tossed under the bus and as a Hillary supporter I will now vote for McCain/Palin08. Palin is a breath of fresh air and very up front with what she says. I can really relate to her and love to hear her speak and hold her own. She will mop the floor with Biden.

Posted by: Barb | September 13, 2008, 12:12 am 12:12 am

The reason why Obama did not choose Clinton is because he does NOT believe in “equal opportunity and equal pay for Women”. He does NOT practice what he preaches.
Like it or not, this is my conclusion.

Posted by: Rt | September 13, 2008, 12:15 am 12:15 am

Amy, she is as qualified as Ted Roosevelt was. She is as qualified as Obama is. His resume is just as flimsy and I don’t buy the community organizer stories.

Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 13, 2008, 12:16 am 12:16 am

OBAMA’S EGO STOOD IN THE WAY OF PICKING HILLARY….so he screwed up his CHANGE mantra and picked old Joe 37 years in the Senate, politics as usual Biden. But Biden has said three things on tape, I agree with..Obama is not ready, Obama is clean and articulate for an African American..storybook, man, and Hillary should have been the VP pick. Gotta love Joe…McCain can make the best ads off this free thinker.
So Gov. Palin stated the obvious…why blame her for what Biden and thousands in her own party are thinking.
McCAIN DOESN’T HAVE THE EGO OF OBAMA…McCAIN PUTS COUNTRY FIRST AND NOT HIMSELF!!!!!

Posted by: Debra | September 13, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am

Betty, the McCain’s have an adopted daughter from Bangladesh. She was at the convention.

Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 13, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am

Keith, I respect that we can agree to disagree at this point. I’m sad you feel the way you do. My guess is we are more alike than we are different.
My first opportunity to vote was for Clinton/Gore in 1990. I attended a rally with Gore in Jacksonville and had my car keyed when I parked my car with it’s sticker back at the apartment. I worked diligently for Kerry, making phone calls while on bed rest in 2004 from South Florida. I was so distraught when he lost. The thought of 4 more years of detrimental Republican administration is unbearable. I hope you have a change of heart.

Posted by: Amy T | September 13, 2008, 12:32 am 12:32 am

Hillary will be too old to run for President in 2012.

Posted by: prbguy777 | September 13, 2008, 12:32 am 12:32 am

FOR A MAN WHO PRETENDS TO HATE “SMALL POLITICS” OBAMA IS DOWN AND DIRTY DIGGING IN THE MUD AND SLINGING MUD.
HE THINKS HE OWNS EVERYBODY IN THE DEMO PARTY INCLUDING THE CLINTONS…
LIVE WITH YOUR EGOTISTICAL ERROR ,OBAMA.
THIS WAS A SPONTANEOUS ANSWER TO GIBSON, AND WE ALL FEEL THE SAME WAY..
WHY IS IT HEADLINE?
IF OBAMA HAD PICKED CLINTON, MCCAIN WOULD NEVER HAVE PICKED PALIN AND NOBODY WOULD HAVE THE KIND OF IMPACT THAT PALIN HAS…
NO COMBINATION WOULD HAVE RIVALED OBAMA AND CLINTON.
OBAMA IS CONFUSED AND BEMUSED..

Posted by: TJ, THE CLINTONITE | September 13, 2008, 12:34 am 12:34 am

Hey, the governor was on the list of nominees for VP all year. He might have been vetting her in the more likely outcome that Clinton would be the nominee and he needed a woman either way. It was most logical that Obama would select Hillary Clinton but he did not and that was probably McCain’s miscalculation. He went with Palin anyway.

Posted by: Crawford Rose | September 13, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am

As I recall, Bridget McCain was at the Republican Convention.
No one at this level controls what the media decides to air on the highlights in snippets.
Get over it…
But remember…
Anybody But Obama

Posted by: Jayhawk | September 13, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am

Betty, Not that it matters, but she was there I saw her. Cindy introduced her. Get past it. Or better yet, She was not there, they were hiding her because they did not want her to be on stage while they were clapping like the Palin kids. Either way, get past it.

Posted by: scott | September 13, 2008, 12:42 am 12:42 am

What I mean by not making sense is that Palin stood rather firmly on the hard line on foreign policy, but she waffled on the social issues: stating her beliefs but separating them from what would happen in a McCain/Paln administration; suggesting respect for H. Clinton in a weak ‘reaching out’ moment; and softening the hard line against ‘earmarks’ by defending her own use of them–when Gibson asked her, her justification was basically a definition of earmarks and then trying to say something on the order of some are legitimate and some are not.
Why shouldn’t a conservative question whether these might actually sound like “more of the same”? I am suspicious that McCain campaing has asked her to compromise certain principles to get into office. Then it seems from what she says she would be willing to go along with some policy decisions that disavow the people who got the ticket there.
Palin’s answers already show her to be willing to compromise her personal beliefs for political gain. She just seems like a different person in the church settings they have shown.

Posted by: hmm? | September 13, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am

Debra,
Does it help the conservative cause if conservatives fall for the very kind of celebrity they reject with liberals?

Posted by: hmm? | September 13, 2008, 12:55 am 12:55 am

If commenting about the Governor of Alaska as a woman using a negative term, even if by mistake (lipstick, etc) then why is it acceptable for her to refer to the old boy’s club in Washington? Is there not a double standard here? She would be outraged if the Democrats referred to her as an old girl.

Posted by: Tom Young | September 13, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am

Jake Tapper,
You wonder if you are not alone. Good grief. Don’t you take a look at your own blog occasionally. We’ve been saying the same thing for weeks. Obama made the biggest mistake of his political career by not picking Hillary. As a matter of fact it wasn’t just a mistake, it was stupidity.

Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | September 13, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am

Jake, in truth, he probably planned to pick Palin since he placed her on the list in MARCH!!

Posted by: Crawford Rose | September 13, 2008, 12:59 am 12:59 am

Obama made the right pick in Biden. Palin is a phony, trying to exploit the situation to McCain’s advantage. It was clear from the way the media ruthlessly attacked Hillary for her every gesture and utterance that she could not be on the ticket. If she were on the ticket, the media would still be focused on Clinton and that would distract from the Democratic message: McCain is more of the same and we need big change desperately!!
Obama/Biden ’08

Posted by: hopesprings52 | September 13, 2008, 1:00 am 1:00 am

The old boys club refers to both parties. It is a general comment. The lipstick comment was coordinated. 3 comments in 1 day by 3 different individuals. It doesn’t really matter, it just helps Palin. Keep talking about it. I only wish Palin was at the top of the ticket.

Posted by: Scott | September 13, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am

Yes, Scott, the McCain candidacy was pretty unconvincing on his own; it has been transformed, but I am wondering now whether it has been into smoke and mirrors.

Posted by: hmm? | September 13, 2008, 1:06 am 1:06 am

Biden has been terrible since 88. He is an out and out plagiarist. Neil McKinnock has a better life story than Biden but that’s neither here nor there. The strongest DEM candidate was Richardson but the party is too beholden to other, larger splinter groups to nominate a Hispanic.

Posted by: Crawford Rose | September 13, 2008, 1:07 am 1:07 am

Gibson is another pawn in the pathetic army of Slobbering Liberoid Democrat Media Shills for Obama, desperately flailing and floundering in an orgy of smears, lies, gotcha and gutter politics to attempt to destroy Governor Palin.
So far, the blatant Liberal Media bias has made Gov. Palin the most popular politician in America in record time!
Nice job, morons!!

Posted by: philly | September 13, 2008, 1:08 am 1:08 am

scott
you are right they made no effort to hide what they were doing Obama is going to lose!

Posted by: staniam | September 13, 2008, 1:09 am 1:09 am

what kind of smoke and mirrors? like magic tricks at the theater? Seriously, McCain never struck me as being any part of David Stockman’s The triumph of politics book, from whence the term arose in popular useage.

Posted by: Crawford Rose | September 13, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am

Hopesprings52
you know thats not right Obama would be ahead by 10 pts in every state if he had Hillary on the ticket and there is nothign yhou can do to counter Palin.. your coordinated attempts this week have been well… silly season!

Posted by: staniam | September 13, 2008, 1:11 am 1:11 am

Westcoastmessenger
yea the Obamabots have been bloviating about Clinton ruining his chances… it was Obama was cavalier in not picking CLinton

Posted by: staniam | September 13, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am

The David Axelrod connection to sleazy Chicago politics is almost as deep as Obama’s.
More needs to be aired about the Axelrod connection to Duval Patrick and the Daley political machine.
Anybody But Obama…

Posted by: Jayhawk | September 13, 2008, 1:14 am 1:14 am

Jayhawk
can you say plagerism….. Obama lifted speeches from Go Patrick… Gov Patrick already has dismal approval ratings in MA …Axelrod is good at hack politics but not as a campaign manager

Posted by: staniam | September 13, 2008, 1:16 am 1:16 am

And, I have to agree with those posting about the sleazy attempts of Charles Gibson to play “gotcha” with Sarah Palin.
The good thing is that she proved she is smarter than the best that the media can offer.
And, that is just another good qualification for a Vice President.
Anybody But Obama…

Posted by: Jayhawk | September 13, 2008, 1:17 am 1:17 am

I cannot believe Obama would call McCain computer illiterate when McCain CAN fly a multi million dollar jet!!!! Obama and his liberal supporters on the blogs cannot even get his campaign off the runway!!!!!!!! Maybe that is why you always hear Obama going uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,uh,uh!!!! Sarah NEVER hesitated once!

Posted by: George | September 13, 2008, 1:18 am 1:18 am

Charlie Gibson is a total pud…Gov. Palin is doing great and if she can put up with this wind bag Gibson, she’ll do great with any reporter looking to play “gotcha”. She will even go toe to toe with Biden. This is our next Vice President. Obama who?

Posted by: Debra | September 13, 2008, 1:20 am 1:20 am

Well, I was not referring to the original use, just in my own (perhaps flawed?)Here’s a web def. I just uncovered: “cover-up: something that is intended to draw attention away from something else”
Palin’s (fill in the blank: vibrancy, gender, newness to the scene) draws attention away from the weakness of McCain’s candidacy (lackluster stage presence, gender, oldness to the scene), used to create an illusion for voters.
OR
Using Palin as a conservative neophyte or blank slate to draw attention away from the political compromising needed to win and further to divert attention away from the fact that McCain actually has weaker (i.e. less hardline) stances than she (at least used to have) and her version of conservatism is useful for winning but will be tossed out or further compromised if they get the oval office.
That is the conservatives who see her as a kind of ‘savior’ (as some conservatives have accused liberals of seeing Obama) will be disappointed when she is more like a ‘voice crying in the wilderness.’

Posted by: hmm? | September 13, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am

Biden cheated on law exams and had to retake. Palin is doing great representing US…AMERICANS. So GLAD she is NOT a Washington insider! Lord she is holding her own with that crypt keeper Gibson. He is one of those closet types who gets chills up his leg for B. Hussein.

Posted by: Debra | September 13, 2008, 1:28 am 1:28 am

Who cares what Palin says, she is just instructed to say it, or perhaps she is telling McCain what to say. McCain doesn’t do to well on his own, what is up with that?
Poor McCain lost his stature to upstart that he picked. Now he can’t campaign without her.

Posted by: Thinking | September 13, 2008, 1:34 am 1:34 am

Democrates are such haters.
I have always voted for Democrates before, but the posts here show me that they are truly a bunch of haters. The Republicans, on the other hand, seem to be more of ladies and gentlemen.

Posted by: Jane | September 13, 2008, 1:39 am 1:39 am

“Biden cheated on law exams and had to retake.”
It would have been nice to know such things about Palin BEFORE she was chosen, too.
“Palin is doing great representing US…AMERICANS.”
She doesn’t represent me; she is the governor of another state asking me to participate in giving her permission to represent me.
After her answers to Gibson, the vetting process, and the suspect record of McCain as a candidate on his own, I am less inclined to give her that permission.

Posted by: hmm? | September 13, 2008, 1:43 am 1:43 am

scott
yea there are some strange alliances here…there still isnt something quite right about Obama even after their choreographed convention with the Clintons… I wonder how much Axelrod paid them? Thats not being cynical thats the truth after it was proven that Democratic delegates to Clinton were paid to go over to Obama!

Posted by: staniam | September 13, 2008, 1:46 am 1:46 am

Jane
Im going to hold off even till I get in the voting both to acknowledge to myself that Im voting for a ticket like Mccain/palin but frankly we all have no choice but to do so!

Posted by: stanaim | September 13, 2008, 1:49 am 1:49 am

McCain would rather lose his integrity than lose the election.
McCain’s support is extremely weak. His supporters can’t even formulate why they support him, the only thing they can talk about is Obama.
And it will more and more clear that SP has huge negatives and that McCain is running a very deceitfull campaign. That will erode his support even further.

Posted by: Polderboy | September 13, 2008, 1:53 am 1:53 am

So a former Clinton supporter assigned by Barry needs to speak for Hillary?

Posted by: Mack | September 13, 2008, 1:56 am 1:56 am

Biden authored the Violence Against Women Act – possibly the most important piece of legislation for women in the last 20 years.
If you’re trying to turn women off him, I’m afraid you have some serious problems since after the Violence Against Women Act passed, there was a full 60% drop in domestic violence.

Posted by: johnTX | September 13, 2008, 2:30 am 2:30 am

Debbie Wasserman was a huge Hillary supporter and I would watch her on FOX and CNN throughout the primaries. She seem to be angrier now than ever. That’s what sadness will do to you. She has to do what she has to do. Bill should fly out of the country on one of his Aids missions, and Hillary should take a medical leave for some weeks. CLINTONS SHOULDN’T LIFT ONE FINGER FOR B. HUSSEIN, UNLESS IT’S THEIR MIDDLE FINGER.

Posted by: Debra | September 13, 2008, 2:30 am 2:30 am

Obama can only win with the ignorant youth vote. The black voting block is only 14% and I’m betting there will be voter fraud in many counties. I am counting on the young voters to be that same unreliable group they have been for years.
McCAIN/PALIN ALL THE WAY, THE GROWN UP CHOICE.

Posted by: Debra | September 13, 2008, 2:36 am 2:36 am

The reazon why MCcain/Palin are so weak, is because they are BIIIIIIG LIERS !!!!!!!!!!
You can sustain lies for a while….but LIES will finally go out and bite you !!!
McCAin …please get honest…or honestly…be ready to lose !!!!!~

Posted by: skyglider2008 | September 13, 2008, 2:45 am 2:45 am

staniam: Obama blablabla this, blablablba that. Obama’s supposed negatives’ have been discussed ad nauseam for virtually every day of this year and last year. They didn’t hurt him.
SP’s negatives are beginning to leak out every day for the rest of the campaign: Rape VICTIMS to pay for the investigation themselves in Wasilla when she was mayor!!!!?
Wow, what a ‘reformer’.
But it’s clear. You can’t even formulate why you will vote for McCain.

Posted by: Polderboy | September 13, 2008, 2:46 am 2:46 am

Debra has exposed herself as a redblooded Rightwinger again, not a disappointed Hillary-supporter.
‘Voter Fraud’ is Republican Fringe Talk. BushCo have tried to proof the existence of any ‘voter fraud’ the last eigth years and they couldn’t find anything. Only people who were defrauding ACORN when they registered voters, not any elections.

Posted by: Polderboy | September 13, 2008, 2:51 am 2:51 am

skyglider2008: Exactly.
When people learn that the same people who lied us into war with Iraq are now lying to us to get McCain into the White House, they will run as fast as they can from him.

Posted by: Polderboy | September 13, 2008, 2:56 am 2:56 am

By your logic, Palin’s “negatives” may not hurt her either. Perhaps that is part of why he chose her?
She, taken in isolation, might be as teflon as Obama in that regard. When the election returns to a choice for President, the hurt that might go toward her is likely to be deflected to him for having chosen her.
I can imagine a scenario in which she remains popular while McCain plummets.

Posted by: hmm? | September 13, 2008, 2:57 am 2:57 am

Sooooooo, everyone in this forum is in the upper 1% of this nation income ???
If not…..Rep Government gives a wit for you !!!
Middle class people are voting for the Party that will NEVER vote ( give’s a wit ) for you ? !!!
And then you claim how the Government doesn’t play for you ???????
Please …..if you are in the upper 1% income rate, feel invigorated about voting for McBush !!!
Otherwise…….please think !!!!!!!

Posted by: skyglider2008 | September 13, 2008, 2:59 am 2:59 am

skyglder
you are a fool for repeating that silly phrase mcbush it isnt working and wont work

Posted by: staniam | September 13, 2008, 3:01 am 3:01 am

Polderboy
the war issue is OVER! Obama said himself that the surge worked better than he could ever have hoped… Obama is finished

Posted by: staniam | September 13, 2008, 3:03 am 3:03 am

Hey, skyglider2008, who are you calling everyone?

Posted by: hmm? | September 13, 2008, 3:03 am 3:03 am

Another BushCo feature is also visible in Palin’s ‘administration’: cronyism. She was doing a ‘heck of job’ as reformer.
One of the most qualified people she could find to be on Alaska’s Board of Game (a 7-member body that meets throughout the year for purposes of “conservation and development of game resources.”) was her retired middle-school basketball basketball coach …
She probably thought: well, Basketball is a game as well, so why not.

Posted by: Polderboy | September 13, 2008, 3:12 am 3:12 am

staniam, tell that to the families and friends and relatives of the fallen soldiers and wounded veterans that the war is ‘over’.

Posted by: Polderboy | September 13, 2008, 3:16 am 3:16 am

“He cant even master tasks that my 4 y/o niece does in a daily basis..”
As someone else said, do you think that you, your niece or Barry could land a jet on a moving aircraft carrier in the middle of the night?

Posted by: Mack | September 13, 2008, 3:24 am 3:24 am

hmm. you might be right, she might be ‘teflon’, but I doubt it. Usually, teflon only sticks on people who have some real accomplishments on their record. Palin hasn’t any, only Republican Spin.
She has all the hallmarks of being a flash-in-a-pan.

Posted by: Polderboy | September 13, 2008, 3:27 am 3:27 am

“Palin hasn’t any, only Republican Spin.”
She is running a state. What has Barry run, besides his mouth?

Posted by: Mack | September 13, 2008, 3:31 am 3:31 am

Mack, a moose could have won the Alaska race for governor. People hated the incumbent Governor.

Posted by: Polderboy | September 13, 2008, 3:37 am 3:37 am

“Mack, a moose could have won the Alaska race for governor. People hated the incumbent Governor.”
I guess that they’re just a bunch of morons up there huh? Over 80% approval rating, highest in the country.

Posted by: Mack | September 13, 2008, 3:40 am 3:40 am

Mack: “land a jet on a moving aircraft carrier in the middle of the night?”
50 years ago. And McCain still thinks he’s a soldier who can solve problems by waging wars.
He’s still humiliated that the US did not win in Vietnam, and did not win in Iraq: we’re still viewed as the occupiers – not liberators – and the Iraqis want us to leave, fast.
Now he wants revenge for his years as POW and we will have to pay for that.

Posted by: Polderboy | September 13, 2008, 3:43 am 3:43 am

Mack: “Over 80% approval rating”
Nobody is going to disappove of her for giving them thousands of dollars in handouts that the rest of the country has to pay for.

Posted by: Polderboy | September 13, 2008, 3:46 am 3:46 am

Sarah Palin is not interested in Governing. Sarah is interested in herself only. She thinks she’s competing as a contestant in American Idol.

Posted by: Polderboy | September 13, 2008, 3:51 am 3:51 am

People keep citing Palin’s approval rating in her home state as it that is some sort of evidence for something larger.
To what extent can Alaska be taken as a microcosm of the country?

Posted by: hmm? | September 13, 2008, 3:52 am 3:52 am

Polderboy
well Gov Palin as an american idol contestant will fit right in with Sen Obama as an american Idol contestant because he knows that she rivals and overtakes his popularity and people like that have self esteem eissues so I would be more worried about your candidate than anyone else in the race… I mean major issues with family and bringing in his experience in community organizing backfired because he left that because of his lack of gravitas! also thinking for years he was realated to some sortof prince of kenya when he was just a lowly civil servant… its sortof pathetic at best…and I know that you Obamabots are hearign this for the first time since you have been kept away from Obamas real backstory…oh and the truth that he really never has been destitute… went to private schools etc wants school vouchers like republicans… I can go on and on and Im right

Posted by: staniam | September 13, 2008, 4:00 am 4:00 am

Could Staniam direct us to the sources s/he would cite to explain the claims he makes about “gravitas” and “backstory”?

Posted by: hmm? | September 13, 2008, 4:06 am 4:06 am

Dear Mack,
You nailed it !
You talked the truth !!!!!!
Nevertheless, I don’t believe this instance, disqualifies Senator Obama from being President, as it doesn’t disqualify Cindy McCain from being First Lady !
We can forever discuss back and forth, but what i believe will define the elections, will be the debates between the candidates for President and VPs.
I’m for Barack, but if the McCain/Palin ticket convinces me otherwise, I will vote Rep.
As for today, McCain lies, smears and misleading ads won’t get my vote !!!
I’ll vote ISSUES ……..Not LIES !!!!
Thank you !

Posted by: skyglider2008 | September 13, 2008, 4:06 am 4:06 am

On McCain… According to a Boston Globe article written in 2000, (link availble on Drudge)
McCains war injuries prevent him from ..combing his hair,,WORKING ON A KEYBOARD…even tieing his own shoes…
Nice “attack” ad by Obama huh.

Posted by: neville | September 13, 2008, 4:43 am 4:43 am

Posted by: skyglider2008 | Sep 13, 2008 4:06:39 AM
lies!
bho has had many. his ads are also very low…saying mccain is too old to e-mail….perhaps they should investigate to see that mccain cannot type due to injuries he received in viet nam….

Posted by: pp | September 13, 2008, 4:43 am 4:43 am

Gibson gaffs
“Bush Doctrine”–There are four different Bush Doctrines,,(Charles Krathhammer, Washington Post)
PS..Gibson refered to Sept,2002 which was the month Bush spoke to the UN about Iraq non compliance of UN resolutions). Bush did NOT tell the UN that we would act “pre-emptively”

Posted by: neville | September 13, 2008, 4:48 am 4:48 am

Another Gibson Gaff
Gibson misquoted Palin about her prayer for our leaders and troops… even though he claimed to use her “exact words”
PS…Gibsons “interview” of Obama in 2007 was a puff piece with a list of softball questions that reflect the DOUBLE STANDARD being employed by all the media.
SHAMEFUL JOURNALISM by Gibson

Posted by: neville | September 13, 2008, 4:52 am 4:52 am

staniam, i have read the posts, and agree, the only way obama will win is if the clintons are behind him.
i wish bill clinton was still in office. i wish hillary was taking over the frickin bush mess…
but once again, i must bow out gracefully and wish everyone well….
please, if there are any of you left in the path of ike, please, please, go now….god have mercy….

Posted by: carlasue | September 13, 2008, 5:34 am 5:34 am

neville, you may be right…i am sure you have looked at all the resources……..

Posted by: carlasue | September 13, 2008, 5:37 am 5:37 am

Your wrong its not 85% its 95% of Americans get a tax beak under Obama!
But it doesnt mater McCain and Palin have Fox News on side…
Fox News reports Obama will raise taxes 100′s of times a day!
While its true 95% of every day Americans will get a tax break under Obama… Fox News can legaly say that he will raise taxes they just dont mention that its only on the top 1%..
Result more Americans get there News from Fox News…
GOP wins..
Q. Who started the Obama/muslim rumour ?
A. Fox News !
GOP Wins..
Q. Who started the rumour Bush beat Gore ?
A. Fox News
GOP wins

Posted by: GOP 08 | September 13, 2008, 6:10 am 6:10 am

It doesnt mater if she’s dumb as aa plant she just has to say sexist to the tough questions and america will eat it up!
Hillary’s sexist charge has stuck and the GOP wins again for at least for more years!
Palin did a shocking job but it just makes us and Clinton nuts think everyone is being mean!
In the end we will win and change this country into the god fearing nation it was meant to be.
Hillary’s fan club will change America into our dream and their nightmare!
Rove wins again!

Posted by: GOP 08 | September 13, 2008, 6:12 am 6:12 am

Sarah Palin You are NO Hillary Clinton.
Do not even try to elevate yourself to her level. You are by far inferior. You insult every woman in America with your absolutely silly comparison.

Posted by: Newsrook | September 13, 2008, 6:19 am 6:19 am

Newsrook
Hillary is the past Palin will be the first woman VP and then the first woman President! It will be all thanks to Clintons supporters that she will never be President! They are stpid and think they are helping Hillary by voting against Obama! HAHAHA
GOP Wins again!

Posted by: GOP 08 | September 13, 2008, 6:28 am 6:28 am

Palin has no right to accuse Hillary Clinton. She istying to deminish Hillary. Hillary is 100% better than her and more qualified than her.

Posted by: I.A.T smith | September 13, 2008, 6:42 am 6:42 am

By picking Palin, McCain showed he is not afraid of change, not afraid of women, not afraid to take someone outside of Washington D.C., willing to take a risk, and good judge of people and situations.
Obama’s VP pick showed his fear of Hillary, fear of powerful women (he could have picked another woman), that he feels safe with a Washington D.C. insider, that he won’t take risks, does not really want change….and he let Michelle influence his choice of VP (she vetoed Hillary from the start).

Posted by: Zank | September 13, 2008, 6:46 am 6:46 am

Hillary is the past Palin will be the first woman VP and then the first woman President! It will be all thanks to Clintons supporters that she will never be President! They are stpid and think they are helping Hillary by voting against Obama! HAHAHA
GOP Wins again!

Posted by: GOP 08 | September 13, 2008, 6:48 am 6:48 am

I remember Hillary Clinton saying that when she arrived to Bosnia in 1996 during his husband´s presidency, she rushed down the plain staircases because of the snipers around. The media showed us the real images: she was welcomed with Chelsea by the authorities.
Poor Hillary, she lost her chance. Maybe in 2012 she´s luckier. She was stepped aside by the community organizer and now he´s down in the polls screaming ´Hill, please come and save me´.

Posted by: Stephen from Indiana | September 13, 2008, 7:04 am 7:04 am

palin says this and palin says that —-the candidate from dogpatch is no authority on anything but the bridge to nowhere—and may be impeached as governer—–realy who cares what she has to say. just some more repub stratagy to get hillary voters—mccain referred to hillary as the bitxx.
she has trouble remembering her lines as she cannot answer many questions–and charlie gets slammed for asking.

Posted by: rodney | September 13, 2008, 7:16 am 7:16 am

I think that it was stupid for the Obama camp to respond to Palin’s comment they way they did. Obama just seems to be angry these days. He has lost whatever charm he use to have.
Everyone agrees, it was not smart to skip over Hillary. I think it just proves his arrogance and incompetence.

Posted by: mikeWill | September 13, 2008, 7:33 am 7:33 am

mikewill
obama did not skip over hillary–it is the willy factor that caused the problem.
he still has too much influence over her –and the scandal with willy will follow him till the end—-however mccain has managed to hide the neg part of his past–and just says he was a pow.

Posted by: rodney | September 13, 2008, 7:38 am 7:38 am

Hillary’s sexist charge has stuck and the GOP wins again for at least four more years!

Posted by: GOP 08 | September 13, 2008, 7:41 am 7:41 am

Hey GOP 08,
I would rather see John McCain and Sarah Palin be in office for the next 12 years then see Obama in Office for 4.
Obama has used “change” to promote his carrier. He is a phony. He has never made any real changes. McCain and Palin have used their carriers to create real change.
I hope we have a black president some day soon, but just not Obama. I do expect to see Clinton as president some day. But for now my support is fully behind Palin/McCain.

Posted by: samUVA | September 13, 2008, 7:42 am 7:42 am

i would never vote for the old geser who had 26 years to make a difference–and now is a super parrot trying to steal obama platform of change——what ever happened to the candidate with experience (8 years of bush experience)
you cannot teach an old dog new tricks–in this case a very old dog

Posted by: rodney | September 13, 2008, 7:47 am 7:47 am

Unfortunately, most people look at the ABC interview and focus on HOW Palin said things rather than WHAT she actually said.
She didn’t hit a home run, so now they’re blaming Gibson for condescending – yet Palin has proved herself to be very adept at condescendion during her acceptance speech. If she can dish it out, why can’t she take it?
And I thought if she’d said his name one more time I was going to lose it and send a shoe flying through the screen of my brand new television.
This isn’t American Idol or a beauty contest. Please focus on WHAT she said. If you do, you should be scared. She sounds enormously like President Bush. Ready to head into another war. An arrogance saying that her way is the right way and that she won’t listen to others. Her record in AK also shows a vindictive streak against people who did not support her.
This is NOT change.
Should Obama have chosen Hillary? I’ll admit it might have made it easier for him to get elected – though there are arguments she would have hurt him in some states. But once in office, dual vice presidents Bill and Hillary looking over his shoulder all the time would’ve made it VERY difficult for him to govern.

Posted by: Kathleen | September 13, 2008, 7:47 am 7:47 am

rodney,
Obama can use whatever excuse he wants. The fact is that he could have chosen Hillary and he did not. If Bill is such a problem, then why is he using him to bring back the people who have flocked to McCain. The decision of Obama’s to skip Hillary was arrogant. He thought he could win this without Hillary and without her supporters and it is clear that he can not.
I bet you Hillary would have piked Obama as her VP because she would want to unite the Democratic party. Obama should have picked Clinton. When he loses in November it will be his own fault.
Hopefully the DNC will get their stuff together for 2012.
Palin and McCain ROCK! – Change we can see

Posted by: mikeWill | September 13, 2008, 7:50 am 7:50 am

Way to go Joe Biden! With a runningmate like that, no wonder Barack’s numbers are plunging. He should have just attacked Gov. Palin instead of claiming how other people are more qualified than himself. Instead, all he does is talk about how much he LIKES other people. Well, gee whiz Wally! What don’t you like?
In other words, Dems are jelous because Barack picked cement shoes for a running mate while John McCain picked actual running shoes for a running mate!

Posted by: Adam | September 13, 2008, 7:51 am 7:51 am

P.S. And while I’m here, can we please call a moratorium on the phrase “Obamabot?” As someone else said in this thread, we now seem to have “Sarahbots” who have, instead of drinking Obama’s supposed Kool Aid, eaten Palin’s moose stew.

Posted by: Kathleen | September 13, 2008, 7:52 am 7:52 am

pp,
“lies!
bho has had many. his ads are also very low…saying mccain is too old to e-mail….perhaps they should investigate to see that mccain cannot type due to injuries he received in viet nam….”
The real lie is that McCain can’t type because of his hands. Did you watch his hands and finger movements during his appearance on the View? Stop listening to that hate-mongering preached on WMAL radio and you’ll get your facts straight, sheeple.
Obama’s ad merely points out that McCain has no experience in anything modern — we’re in the tech age, man!
Obama/Biden 08!
Posted by: pp

Posted by: Common Sense | September 13, 2008, 7:53 am 7:53 am

wow palin is for change—(IS THAT LIKE THE BRIDGE TO NOWHERE)
when she stated about georgia and us going there—just send her and mccain—i will start building a bunker–how absurd can she get– or better yet how dumb–she carries the mccain trademark(DUMB)

Posted by: rodney | September 13, 2008, 7:53 am 7:53 am

Spare us the phoney sentiment and respect? Geez, is this a new type of politics?

Posted by: a reader in georgia | September 13, 2008, 7:56 am 7:56 am

Common Sense
McCain did say he cant use the internet.
Makes me laugh though that obama uses that as an attack ohhh aahhh what strength what a zing! Ha Ha Ha

Posted by: GOP 08 | September 13, 2008, 7:56 am 7:56 am

Kathleen,
I was a Hillary Clinton supporter. I have been a democrat all my life but I have to tell you I really am impressed with Palin. I had already decided to vote for McCain because I think Obama is a corrupt politician who uses other people’s words and his preacher like speeches to reel in people who can’t see through him. Plus he has had time to make changes to Washington and he has done nothing. Look at his votes while in the senate. He voted “present” over 130 times. That is not change, that is playing safely.
I was not super excited to vote for McCain but I liked his style. Then he chose Palin. She has the experience, grit and best of all she has made real changes to the government. I don’t agree with her on all the issues but she is not close minded and neither am I.
I am truly excited for the Palin/McCain ticket! I’m hoping for Clinton or another great Democrat in 2012.

Posted by: Emily | September 13, 2008, 8:00 am 8:00 am

GOP 08 – Actually, the internet attack is strong in one way. It effectively points out that McCain – who claims to be for change and the future – is actually stuck in the past. He’s out of touch.
Even my mother (76 years old) knows how to use the net.

Posted by: Anita | September 13, 2008, 8:00 am 8:00 am

WOW A GUY MCCAIN CANNOT USE A COMPUTER–DONT 3RD GRADERS DO THAT—-maybe being a —d—student as mccain was is just that dumb—–lets see now a —d—student and the queen of pork —and you want them to run our country –never never—8 years have been more than enough.MUCH MORE THAN ENOUGH

Posted by: rodney | September 13, 2008, 8:02 am 8:02 am

Im Loving Emily today…
She is the people I was talking about… LOL
Love you Emily for every Emily there is a million more!
Hillary is the past Palin will be the first woman VP and then the first woman President! It will be all thanks to Clintons supporters that she will never be President! They are stpid and think they are helping Hillary by voting against Obama! HAHAHA
GOP Wins again!

Posted by: GOP 08 | September 13, 2008, 8:03 am 8:03 am

You know what everyone messied it but I think there is a high level meeting today with Hillary, Joe Biden and Obama. I think and predict Obama will accept Bidens suggestion to step aside and put Hillary back as Vice Pres. Sure Obama would catch some grief but it would be sensational news and Put Palin in her place. It would wipe that arrogant stupid smile off her face knowning she was going to debate Hillary. Ha Ha Keep saying he should have picked Hillary, He will.

Posted by: bronxliberal | September 13, 2008, 8:04 am 8:04 am

Anita
Yeah that or it just turns off older folks that also cant use a computer!
Bad ad waste of money paying to turn people off isnt smart!
GOP wins!

Posted by: GOP 08 | September 13, 2008, 8:05 am 8:05 am

Hey GOP 08,
I don’t think anyone here thinks you are really voting Palin/McCain. But if you are and you are really such a moron, then that’s okay because the Obama followers have you way out numbered. We can use a few moron’s voting for Palin/McCain to keep the rest of us humble.
-Democrat for Palin/McCain

Posted by: mikeWill | September 13, 2008, 8:06 am 8:06 am

Obama is a leader, he leads the scum of Earth. Obama is a uniter, he unites the scum of Earth.
I was for Hillary but now I don’t care when she runs or ever runs. Knowing that Obama did not win the elections, Hillary threw the elections, my vote, to Obama so that he could become the first black candidate in the democratic(?) party. The First Affirmative Action candidate and it’s Hillary’s fault. I will never support Hillary again. She did not standing up to the corrupt DNC and she diminished the election process.
Governor Sarah Palin is 300% better than Hillary. Good Bye Hillary.

Posted by: Mrs.Phoenix | September 13, 2008, 8:22 am 8:22 am

Jack
We Republicans vote on the Issues you ‘Clinton Democrats’ vote on what ??
Obama beat Hillary poor me so Ill vote for McCain.
thanks for your support but you really are stupid!
We dont want healthcare handouts and tax breaks for people that are to lazy or too stupid to work harder and get them selves ahead. You guys want the Government to do everything for you!
You guys are Pro-death and we are Pro Life we’d never vote for a Pro life person you guys dont care and will vote for McCain.
Simply you guys are stupid but thank you becuase of you evry four years we win!
Dont feel bad there are Millions like you!
GOP GOP GOP

Posted by: GOP 08 | September 13, 2008, 8:23 am 8:23 am

You are welcome! It is worth it not to see Obama in the White House. Let change Washington but not in Obama’s way of dirty, corrupt, Chicago style politics!
Posted by: I’m an Emily too (Jack) | Sep 13, 2008 8:16:26 AM
LOL. you have the nerve to call Obama dirty and corrupt when your man McCain has backed Georgie boy 90% of the time.
That’s funny.

Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 8:23 am 8:23 am

pal
if obama were really angry he’d be hitting back harder at the McCain/Palin ads that have been proven to be full of flat-out lies.

Posted by: Caroline | September 13, 2008, 8:25 am 8:25 am

The question should be does Obama regret that he didn’t pick Hillary, it should be does Michelle Obama regret not picking Hillary.

Posted by: Karl | September 13, 2008, 8:27 am 8:27 am

Unqualified, lying, war mongering, scandal-ridden, book burning religious extremist. Just the woman to replace Hillary. They must think the voters are idiots and their poll numbers will zoom up by picking her. Oh wait, their poll numbers are zooming up. I guess they were right about the stupidity of the American electorate.

Posted by: Bob | September 13, 2008, 8:27 am 8:27 am

Governor Sarah Palin is 300% better than Hillary. Good Bye Hillary.
Posted by: Mrs.Phoenix | Sep 13, 2008 8:22:56 AM
How did you come to that conclusion? You people are so shallow. You probably had no clue who she was until 2 weeks ago, now you are going to let her be second in command? Are you people that stupid?

Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 8:27 am 8:27 am

GOP 08
Older people aren’t really Obama’s base anyway, so what he has got to lose by pointing out to the rest of the country how out of touch McCain is?
And hyper-sensitivity will have reached an over-the-top level if any senior is actually offended by that ad.

Posted by: Anita | September 13, 2008, 8:30 am 8:30 am

Obama: 130 times voting ´present´
If this is really change, then I must be George Clooney. Mr. America community organizer is good for late shows but not for the White House.

Posted by: Stephen from Indiana | September 13, 2008, 8:38 am 8:38 am

Obama: 130 times voting ´present´
If this is really change, then I must be George Clooney. Mr. America community organizer is good for late shows but not for the White House.
Posted by: Stephen from Indiana | Sep 13, 2008 8:38:29 AM
That’s better than lying every time you open your mouth like McCain, but then again you have believed GWB’s lies for 8 years.

Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 8:40 am 8:40 am

J -
You’re right. As I said earlier, some people have eaten the Palin moose stew and after two weeks (of basically one speech repeated ad nauseum) don’t mind the fact that she will be a heartbeat away from the presidency – and with better odds than most VP candidates of stepping into the presidency of having to take over in an emergency.
Yikes.

Posted by: Kathleen | September 13, 2008, 8:43 am 8:43 am

Posted by: Kathleen | Sep 13, 2008 8:43:35 AM
So much for the intelligence of the American voter. Actually it is quite scary that people are that stupid.

Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 8:45 am 8:45 am

Why are we Americans willing to accept Liars for Leaders?
Posted by: Amy T | Sep 13, 2008 8:47:24 AM
Because the republicans can do it with a straight face and most of the American public believe their lies. NOT THIS TIME!

Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 8:49 am 8:49 am

If I had McCain at the top of the ticket I’d be talking about something else, too.
McCain seems to think this ship is sailing in the right direction, and pretends that all that is needed is to “switch hats” with Bush to make a change.
Meanwhile, real working people are sinking into the mud. Obama has a plan to help working people pull themselves out of the mud. It’s time this country exported something besides jobs.
McCain says he’s the real agent of change. Can you name me one thing he’s done to seriously get us on a system of renewable clean energy? Car emissions standards, alternative fuels, incentives for renewable resources, penalties for poor-performing polluters?He can pretend all he wants, but his plan keeps us on the same course we’re on right now.
But Obama sees the whole board, and he’s actively pursuing the better plan: short-term improvements in fuel efficiency, long-term reliance on renewable, clean, stable, domestic sources of energy. Spend our dollars to drill and burn each barrel of oil one time. Build renewable energy plants and reap the rewards for the next hundred years. American workers will thrive under Obama’s plan. With McCain we’ll be here again in 4 or 8 years, only a little worse off than we are right now.
And when working-class Americans do well, the rich do well too, so spare me the “redistribution of wealth” crap.
Foreign policy, McCain’s supposed area of expertise- McCain is thinking one move ahead, while Obama sees the whole board. McCain has us bogged down in Bush’s Doctrine of preemptive war. But using our military alone to solve our problems is like using a sword to cultivate a field. Obama sees the whole board. Short term: Kill Bin Laden, finish the job in Afghanistan. Long term: Get Americans back out there in foreign countries. Foreign service, Peace Corps, teaching exhanges. Teach the values of our constitution in tiny schools in areas where now the only thing being taught is hatred of America. Make moves that will give us more leverage in the world instead of less. We are weaker internationally than we’ve been in 50 years. We can’t put real pressure on other countries when we owe them hundreds of billions of dollars and rely on them for energy to keep our economy moving.

Posted by: Jennifer | September 13, 2008, 8:50 am 8:50 am

PEOPLE!!!
I have one thing to say :
STEP AWAY FROM THE MOOSE STEW!!

Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 8:51 am 8:51 am

McCain picked who he was told to pick.
McCain is also running his campaign as he is told to run it, nasty, sleazy, full of lies and distortions. Not the straight talk express he has promised. McCain is also hiding behind Palin. Is this the Maverick of 2000?
Is McCain still in charge? Who is running for President; McCain or group of lobbyist?

Posted by: Thinking | September 13, 2008, 8:55 am 8:55 am

J wrote:
>NOT THIS TIME!
From your mouth to God’s ear. : ) This week seems to have brought the beginning of a backlash against the lies, so I hope they keep getting called on them every time. We need an honorable, issues-based campaign.

Posted by: Kathleen | September 13, 2008, 8:58 am 8:58 am

“McCain picked who he was told to pick.”
You people crack me up.
It was a brilliant pick. You have underestimated everything. You have misjudged everything.
Please continue! :-)

Posted by: drjohn | September 13, 2008, 8:59 am 8:59 am

Thinking – I also wonder who’s actually running for president – McCain or Palin? He certainly is hiding behind her skirts and without her on the campaign trail the last couple of days his crowds have gotten smaller.

Posted by: Kathleen | September 13, 2008, 9:02 am 9:02 am

Amy T,
“Why are the Republicans so willing to embrace Sandra Pallin, without scrutiny, when every time she speaks she tells another whopper?”
Because “Obama can’t be trusted”. Hmm. Makes me wonder why for Republicans, only black politicians need vetting. So hypocritical, so hypocritical.
Obama 08!

Posted by: Common Sense | September 13, 2008, 9:10 am 9:10 am

It was nice for Palin and Biden to show respect for Hillary.
Unlike the DNC, BO and his hateful supporters.
The only time they praised Hillary was when they needed her to save BO’s butt at the convention.
Hillary and Bill must be loving this whole Palin thing.

Posted by: harry | September 13, 2008, 9:13 am 9:13 am

Obama didn’t have the backbone to pick Hillary. She was more popular, more qualified, and tougher.
He didn’t want a strong woman stealing his spotlight.
But another women came along and took it anyway.

Posted by: cindy in nc | September 13, 2008, 9:16 am 9:16 am

Jimbo…
Yes Al-Monsour is another one of Obama’s shady friends that the MSM media ignores.
But Glen Beck and Fox won’t.
They get the viewers BO needs most.

Posted by: harry | September 13, 2008, 9:20 am 9:20 am

You GOP people sucking up to Hillary make me sick!
Palin may be a little silly but at least she knows how to keep a man.
Hillary was done once she lied about Sniper fire! If she was Republican we’d have laughed at it. The Dems want honesty we just care about wether we win or not!
Palin will be the first female VP and President!
Hillary will never be President once the Dems lose this election half will blame her and half will blame Obama they will both be finished!
We always win! GOP

Posted by: GOP 08 | September 13, 2008, 9:20 am 9:20 am

Cindy in nc:
Get a grip dip check numbers in states that are going to elect Obama he’s ahead of McCain/Palin in them and polls there have him still ahead and rising, SOL thats McCain 273 electors for Obama only 270 needed.

Posted by: Lukeskytalker | September 13, 2008, 9:22 am 9:22 am

John McCain once was a war hero. As an Ohio supporter of Hillary Clinton, I seriously considered voting for him, and I was really pleased at first that he picked a woman as his VP.
That was then. Now, every day, I become more and more enraged at Mr. McCain. Sarah Palin only has contempt for every cause that Hillary Clinton has fought for. Ms. Palin is an abject faiilure as a parent, she kisses up but kicks down, and she is grotesquely vindictive as a politician. Her performance with Charlie Gibson was not only utterly inadequate, it was absolutely nauseating. She is incompetent. Now Mr. John McCain stands there and he thinks I am so stupid I won’t notice that camel he is trying to sell me is dead. A long time ago Mr McCain was a war hero, but all he is now is a cheap, mischievous, manipulative little swindler. I will give Mr. Obama my vote, albeit reluctantly. I will give Mr McCain and Ms. Palin my middle finger.

Posted by: sylvie2566 | September 13, 2008, 9:24 am 9:24 am

At least Cindy McCain spent her own money on the dress and has something she can auction for charity.
How much do you think Obama can get
for his $6 million styrofoam temple?
He spent millions to feed his ego–money the DNC didn’t have.
The same way he wastes millions of our money to give to Wright, Pfleger, his wife’s hospital–one billion in earmarks.

Posted by: riley | September 13, 2008, 9:24 am 9:24 am

I agree, The Clintons HAVE to be loving all this Palin stuff. Serves he DNC right. Clintons know also that Obama campaign is screwing up for for going after Palin with such viciousness. Most Americans are fair minded, and will rally around someone who is being unfairly trashed. Obama probably would have won with Clinton. Now she is no doubt looking forward to 08!

Posted by: Temagami | September 13, 2008, 9:25 am 9:25 am

Speaking of debate zingers. I regards that Obama the community organizer is Jesus; will the statement be: “I know Jesus, and Barrack, you’re NO Jesus!”

Posted by: Jack | September 13, 2008, 9:26 am 9:26 am

Palin was much better on 20/20 last night. More comfortable and less scripted.
It was refreshing to here direct answers even if the answer was unpopular (ie Roe v Wade).
Obama would ramble on and stutter give the popular answer then change it the next day.
He had tried for 4 years to hide his No vote on protecting infants who survive abortion.
Here’s a newsflash Obama: everyone knows the truth.

Posted by: sally | September 13, 2008, 9:31 am 9:31 am

Alex and others if I hear one more time where is Hillary. I will scream. She has done more than enough for Obama. More than reid and pelosi have done. She has campaigned in Nevada, Cali, New Mexico and this past Monday she was in Florida and I beleive on sunday she will be in Ohio. Leave her be. Tell Pelosi to go campaign for barack

Posted by: rachel | September 13, 2008, 9:33 am 9:33 am

I thought Palin was clearly not an aggressive conservative. She seems to know what she believes while tolerating other points of view. I think she is a moderate.

Posted by: rafraf | September 13, 2008, 9:33 am 9:33 am

Common Sense.
Student loans are NOT the same as student aid. (retired teacher, PHD ED).
Khalid al-Monsour is just another bad
guy connection for Obama’s train load full of baggage.

Posted by: Temagami | September 13, 2008, 9:38 am 9:38 am

Yes Jack…
And don’t you think those small-town people that cling to their guns and religion love that Obama is being compared to Jesus because he was a community organizer.
About as much as they love his looney Hollywood friends and that Berlin speech.

Posted by: cindy in nc | September 13, 2008, 9:40 am 9:40 am

Polarbear.
PROFOUND!! Great in-depth discussion on major issues. No wonder the bad guys think we’re idiots!!

Posted by: Jimbo | September 13, 2008, 9:41 am 9:41 am

sally – Wasn’t the 20/20 last night just a compilation of the Gibson interviews already shown on Thursday and Friday? What was different? Cause the Gibson interviews seemed to show her parroting memorized responses.
cindy in nc: Yes, it was a close race. But I think Obama made what was a logical decision, not an emotional one. It had nothing to do with a strong woman stealing his spotlight. He wouldn’t have married Michelle if he was afraid of a strong woman.
The fact is Hillary would have brought a lot of baggage and the trademark Clinton drama to the campaign. The GOP has enough fodder to provide this campaign with stupid, divisive distractions, and she would’ve provided a whole lot more material.

Posted by: Sheryl | September 13, 2008, 9:41 am 9:41 am

cindy in nc who cares?? Little Town America isn’t where to Electors are. Its the electors who elect remember Bush at least understood that very well. McCain doesnt seem to have a clue.

Posted by: depravedmaniac | September 13, 2008, 9:43 am 9:43 am

Obama’s new ferocius attack ads:
McCain can’t send an email.
BO still fighting like a spoiled 4th grader.

Posted by: harry | September 13, 2008, 9:45 am 9:45 am

Dems have themselves to blame for picking a novice with no record. He has run as a celebrity. Of course Obama should have picked Hillary.
The real issue: the Dems should have picked Hillary from the start for the top of the ticket.
The party gave away a victory in November. Deal with it.

Posted by: Marie | September 13, 2008, 9:46 am 9:46 am

I think a lot of women out there want to support a woman who is about to break the glass ceiling, any woman. The fact is there are a lot of Hillary supporters that supported Hillary because she is a woman. Those women will most likely support Palin. I see nothing wrong with that.
A also do no think Palin is patronizing Clinton. That’s just the Obama campaign’s way of trying to deflect the positivity of Palin’s statements.
I don’t like Hillary at all but I think she would have been a better candidate than Obama. Obama’s aura is dissolving and in the end he will get swamped by a lackluster John McCain.

Posted by: FDR | September 13, 2008, 9:46 am 9:46 am

The pro-Obama media and Axelrod were not paying attention. They should have been watching Fox.
Palin’s name had been tossed around as a possible choice for months.
Along with Kay Hutchinson, and Meg Whitman but they are pro-choice.
McCain sent someone to Alaska in May to begin vetting Palin.
A brilliant choice!

Posted by: riley | September 13, 2008, 9:50 am 9:50 am

rafraf,
Palin is not a moderate. She is republican through and through. Shes pro gun, pro life, Anti healthcare hand outs to poor folk who should just get better jobs! She’s anti tax breaks for the poor America and pro tax breaks for us folks that give people all the jobs!
A moderate Palin is not a true Republican she is!
GOP!

Posted by: GOP 08 | September 13, 2008, 9:52 am 9:52 am

I feel that Sarah Palin is a qualified individual.
I am voting for McCain

Posted by: Ryan C. | September 13, 2008, 9:52 am 9:52 am

The primary reason Obama couldn’t choose Clinton was not that he was afraid of having a strong woman around. It was that he could not trust having her loose cannon husband around. It’s a pity Hillary didn’t dispatch Bill with all due haste when he treated her so disrespectfully during the 90′s. I don’t follow her logic, but it was her decision to make. It’s unfortunate that the repercussions keep on coming, though.

Posted by: SmithA | September 13, 2008, 9:53 am 9:53 am

It may be because of Michelle that BO has a deep-seated dislike of strong women.
He is probably tired of being bossed around at home.
I bet Michelle could kick his butt. She seems much tougher and more authentic than Barry.

Posted by: cindy in nc | September 13, 2008, 9:54 am 9:54 am

100 and HOW MANY days in Senate when Obama decides to run for president? NO, NO, NO, ZERO, NADA, NONE, ZILTCH – EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE!! A LITTLE THIN ON RESUME’?

Posted by: Manitu | September 13, 2008, 9:55 am 9:55 am

riley
Don’t act like Palin was properly vetted because she wasn’t. If she had been, the McCain campaign would’ve known about Troopergate, her daughter’s pregnancy, the whole “Bridge to Nowhere” lie, and her husband’s ties to an Alaskan separatist movement. But most important, they would’ve discovered her lack of in-depth knowledge on national security and foreign policy.

Posted by: Sheryl | September 13, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am

McCain is really the best choice for our country. Any fool would see that.

Posted by: Ryan C. | September 13, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am

OBAMA 2008

Posted by: depravedmaniac | September 13, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am

cindi in nc
I have had similar professional experience with the women you are talking about and I share your opinion and OBAMA’S PROBABLE ATTITUDE WITH SAME!!
McCain/Palin 08

Posted by: Jimbo | September 13, 2008, 9:59 am 9:59 am

McCain is the last person on the face of this earth I would vote for dog catcher.

Posted by: Viet Nam Vets Against McCain | September 13, 2008, 9:59 am 9:59 am

Obama campaign is so negative, but he complains that others are negative against him and therefore America. His ads are mocking McCain for not able to type emails. But both of McCain’s hands are broken and one leg during his service in the Vietnam war.

Posted by: young_voter | September 13, 2008, 10:00 am 10:00 am

In Alaska Palin increased funding for families w/special needs children.
As a special ed teacher I would love to see little Trig grow up in the White House.
The spotlight will be on children with disabilites as it was with Eunice Kennedy. Her sister was mentally disabled–that’s why Eunice started Special Olympics.
That’s not the only reason I prefer McCain/Palin but a huge plus.

Posted by: cindy in nc | September 13, 2008, 10:01 am 10:01 am

Gibson did the measly job he was intended to do by the RNC, lets forget she had a telepromter behind Gibson her handlers were givign her the answers to say, you could see it in the reflerction on her glasses.

Posted by: depravedmaniac | September 13, 2008, 10:02 am 10:02 am

We have been in office for the last eight years and we have stolen the Change message!
Stupid people now believe we are the party of Change!
I love dumb voters!
We win you lose! GOP

Posted by: GOP 08 | September 13, 2008, 10:04 am 10:04 am

As steep as the path Palin faces, I am cringing at the
queations Obama will be asked during the debates
“Senator, you’ve criticized Sarah Paylin for her change of position on the Bridge to nowhere but the record shows you yourself voted for it and when there was an amendment put forth to send money for the bridge to New Orleans, you voted against sending that aid to help Katrina victims. Why?”
“Senator, you stated on the night of your nomination women were not being paid at the same rate that men are that they should be, dollar for dollar. But your own female campaign workers are only earning .88 for every dollar a man makes. Why?
It goes on and on and on.
Democrats would be well advised to tend their own
garden.
You don’t have to be politically savvy to think which
question would be more troublesome to independents:
“Why did Palin backtrack on that bridge?”
or,
“Why did Obama and Biden vote against sending $250,000,000 in financial aid to New Orleans after Katrina?”

Posted by: John Carpenter | September 13, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am

Palin is one mean spirited dishonest lady in the minds of Americans.
She goes to church and comes out acting like this?
After weeks of this who wants to go to church?

Posted by: newz4i | September 13, 2008, 10:12 am 10:12 am

“Senator, you’ve criticized Sarah Paylin for her change of position on the Bridge to nowhere but the record shows you yourself voted for it and when there was an amendment put forth to send money for the bridge to New Orleans, you voted against sending that aid to help Katrina victims. Why?”
**************************************
Because I and 81 Senators felt that the bill was wrong. The question to ask was why didn’t John McCain vote on it?

Posted by: Thinking | September 13, 2008, 10:12 am 10:12 am

If McCain is so out of touch and backwards then why is he the one that had the guts to choose a woman and make history?
Who gives a crap whether he can send an email?
Obama for all his talk about change wimped out and chose an old Washington insider. That is a step backwards.

Posted by: harry | September 13, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am

Hillary is the past Palin will be the first woman VP and then the first woman President! It will be all thanks to Clintons supporters that she will never be President! They are stpid and think they are helping Hillary by voting against Obama! HAHAHA
GOP Wins again!

Posted by: GOP 08 | September 13, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am

Considering McCain’s experience as a pilot, the dems would be fools to knock McCain for not being technological literate. Re. computer – it may well be due to his torture as a POW.

Posted by: Jimbo | September 13, 2008, 10:15 am 10:15 am

Sen Obama and his campaign are as deceitful and manipulative as their accusations against John McCain and the republican party. They set a benchmark during the primary season, when in an effort to demean the Clintons, he raised issues of tax returns, the 109M of earnings from professional fees and book royalties (what are the federal agencies meant for, if these had been any issues at all). Since nonce of the federal agencies never made any issue there, it shows the Clintons did not do anything wrong, but such issues were cleverly raised by the Obama campaign to sow seeds of doubts about the Clintons. Issues that are non-existent, fabricated, like they did horrible things in the past, were spread through messages, aided by the liberal bloggers and journalists in the media. Didn;t he say that the citizens fell through during the Clinton years, when facts suggest otherwise? They think tey are too smart that they can manipulate their way through all kinds of fabrocations, that they have mastered the art and execute it better than the republicans, but the republicans pale in comparison to what they did during the primary season. The way the Obama campaign divided the party for their pwn gains and smeared the Clintons’ reputations, especially the way they demeaned Sen Hillary Clinton, bears some similarity to the way smears were directed at John McCain in 2000 during his primary run against the current President. Also, one must remember the way they egged a section of media and so-called fashionable liberals to carry their campaign and the way they changed all their stands on criitical issues after winning the nomination. This has close similarity with the way Iraq war was propagated by a section of the media and how President Bush went back on his commitment of bipartisanship and working together with other nations, after winning the general election. That way, Sen Obama and his campaign bears more similarity to the functioning of President Bush than does John McCain.

Posted by: Rachel | September 13, 2008, 10:15 am 10:15 am

Obama has poor judgement, he ignored the most qualified democrat for VP, Hillary Clinton, so his ego will reign supreme instead he choose a Washington insider that can’t bruise his ego.

Posted by: AC | September 13, 2008, 10:17 am 10:17 am

John C,
Those are two good questions to ask. Who will be doing the asking and will they have the good sense to ask them.

Posted by: Maria | September 13, 2008, 10:18 am 10:18 am

John Carpenter
Fantastic points.
Obama voting yes to the Bridge to Nowhere and no to funds for Katrina is not something everyone knows yet.
But it just proves what many of us knew already–Obama is all talk and not what he pretends to be.
I can’t wait for those points to come out in an ad or in the debates.

Posted by: cindy in nc | September 13, 2008, 10:19 am 10:19 am

Jimbo
It is a stupid ad but john mccain said himself he cant use the internet and he is going to get his staff to teach him..
Please stop using his POW thing as a defence for everything!
Im voting for the republican ticket but mccain has milked the POW way to much!
No more POW Defence please!
GOP wins!

Posted by: GOP 08 | September 13, 2008, 10:19 am 10:19 am

It still baffles me why BHO was selected as the nominee because even if God was his running mate he’d still lose the white house.

Posted by: JULIE | September 13, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am

By the way, isn’t moose-hunting an oxymoron? Don’t the moose just stand there? Maybe it’s kind of like running against Obama – so far he’s just standing there, kind of babbling every once in awhile.

Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | September 13, 2008, 10:21 am 10:21 am

Obama and Biden voting no to Katrina relief?
That is not going to go over well.
Maybe that’s why the pro-O media has dropped talking about The Bridge to Nowhere.
In attacking Palin they are indirectly vetting Obama–I love it.

Posted by: riley | September 13, 2008, 10:23 am 10:23 am

Palin is a straight forward lady. She dares not to speak from her heart. I like her!
Palin for VP 08!

Posted by: victory | September 13, 2008, 10:25 am 10:25 am

Where are all the Obama family members? I will like to see them interview so we can get a better fell for this man.

Posted by: AC | September 13, 2008, 10:27 am 10:27 am

Schmit and Rove campaign ads scare everyone because they are branding the Media as “Piranhas!”, Democrats are “Wolves” and talented Artists are just lite “Celebrities” without talent and their voice doesn’t count. Schmidt and Rove have branded Palin as their Barracuda and Pit Bull. Now Schmit and Rove are attempting to play the victim when ever the Democrat’s response or the mainstream media starts asking the questions that are on the minds of the voters.
This will be the election that will be studied by historians. How did they do it? They took out everyone with negative ads and then created their own celebrity who is running on a open playing field now. Barracuda and Pit Bull running down field carrying the football. Can a goldfish stop them. I’m checking out a video – Trained Goldfish Performs Amazing Tricks!!. Can all talking dogs stop them? I look at the video -Talking Dogs. This election may decided by a gold fish and all talking dogs taking on Schmidt and Rove’s Barracuda and Pit Bull. I have faith in the gold fish who says “No worries Team. Everything is going to be all right!” Our Goldfish runs onto the playing field to take on Schmidt and Rove’s Barracuda. A determined mutt joins our gold fish to take on Schmidt and Rove’s Pit Bull.

Posted by: Cooday | September 13, 2008, 10:29 am 10:29 am

Obama tried to direct $3 million to a Chicago museum–the director is a huge BO fundraiser.
Obama is up to his neck in earmarks that benefit his wife, pastors, friends
or represent failed projects that lost millions.
Taxpayers wake up!

Posted by: harry | September 13, 2008, 10:29 am 10:29 am

Oh forget it John Palin is a newcomer.
The republicans should have run a Candidate like McCain. John Palin? Who is he?

Posted by: Thinking | September 13, 2008, 10:30 am 10:30 am

The reason Obama didn’t choose Hilary is because of Obama’s bias, arrogance, resentment, and poor judgement.
Nobama 08.

Posted by: victory | September 13, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am

Can anyone quote the exact Katrina bill that Obama voted against? There are often lots of other things contained in a bill that keep Senators from voting from them.
Just like McCain didn’t vote for Webb’s GI bill because he thought it would keep people from staying enlisted long-term.

Posted by: Ann | September 13, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am

Temagami,
“Common Sense. Student loans are NOT the same as student aid. (retired teacher, PHD ED).”
Who said they were? (student loan and student aid recipient… still paying them off)
“Khalid al-Monsour is just another bad
guy connection for Obama’s train load full of baggage.”
CNN is running a special this weekend about the horrible things teachers teach and their motivations for teaching/preaching garbage. Sad when a retired teacher doesn’t know what a “connection” really is.
Obama/Biden 08!

Posted by: Common Sense | September 13, 2008, 10:34 am 10:34 am

LeeLee07
John McCain said it himself he cant use the internet and he is going to get his staff to teach him!
McCain’s leg and arms were broke when he ejected from the plane not torture!
You make us look as stupid as the Hillary democrats with you lack of knowlage!
Please read the interviews with mccain when he got back to america not his book that was wrote by Carl Rove!
Im really getting sick of this POW milking!
Im voting GOP because they dont give hand out not because I believe stupid lies!
GOP 08

Posted by: GOP 08 | September 13, 2008, 10:34 am 10:34 am

Maria and Cindy C;
It is not likely that either of those issues will be asked by whoever is chosen on the debating panels/
Such questions are generally held back during the debates until an opponent raises an issue about the topic.
Obma is not likely to bring up the “Bridge” vote because McCain was one of only four senators who voted against it but he will provide that info to Palin incase Biden wants to bring it up–which he might not, aince two days ago in a stump speech, he said,
“I don’t want to waste time talking about some bridge to nowhere.
Obama’s going top have a more dijficult time with the equal-pay-for-women issue because he attempted to slam Mccain with it, so McCain will
certainly use it as a “do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do
gotcha.”
And the controversy about the bill on sex education
in Illinois for grades K-6 that Obama signed on to and then accused McCain of distorting is right out there for every one to see.
There are more political skeletons in the Obama/Biden presidency closet then there are bones buried in Pinelawn. Mccain’s a former fighter pilot and rule #1 is, “Never give your enemy knowledge of your position until you can go for the kill shot.” The proof? NOBODY saw Palin coming.

Posted by: jcarpenter | September 13, 2008, 10:35 am 10:35 am

Did anyone notice that among these posts all of a sudden we have two or three very long posts that are anti Rep? Seems to be a pattern here, but maybe I am getting irrational, MAYBE LIKE BO?

Posted by: Jimbo | September 13, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am

I really hope that they keep hammering away at the lies McCain and Palin are telling.

Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am

Palin clearly doesn’t understand the gravity of foreign policy.
NO, I repeat, NO American president or vice-president, or politician for that matter, in their RIGHT mind would AGREE to go into a NUCLEAR war with Russia. And here Palin threw it out so casually, and it’s not as though she’d added, “Of course, we will try to resolve this diplomatically”.
Do you really want this woman to be your potential Commander-in-Chief? Obama may not be as experienced as McCain, but he clearly is informed about foreign policy. And he is not someone who would so casually talk about going back into the Cold War era so lightly without even thinking of the collateral damage. Heck, even MCCAIN would NOT be crazy enough to say that.

Posted by: Logic | September 13, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am

I have grown to like Obama as he is CLEARLY the lesser of the two evils but boy had he picked Hillary as his running mate that would have been awesome.
Jiff

Posted by: JImmy Soho | September 13, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am

John McCain played a masterstroke by choosing Palin as a running mate. If some people are accusing him of using a woman to rope in women voters, then Obama is also guilty of using women to counter Sen Clinton first (remember the comments of Sen Claire Mccaskill and Gov Sebelius on behalf of the Obama campaign against Sen Clinton) and how Caroline Kennedy was employed by the Obama campign to use the reputation of the Kennedy clan as a hedge against Sen Clinton’s place for the VP slot. Now Obama campaign wants Sen Clinton to be the attack dog for his campaign against Gov Palin.

Posted by: Paula | September 13, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am

You are now entering the Twilight Zone.. Geez!
ANOTHER SHEER MISCALCUATION FROM THE REB PARTY!!!
Obama had NO CHOICE — Inner-circles know Hillary did NOT want to be VP– OK? She put out the cold vibes to Obama’s team as her dropped her hints.
****Did the Reb Party get their facts straight before they made this sheer outrageous statement and assumption?*****
And did the Reb party realize that one woman is not inter-changable with another? Or is it the Power if 8 (figure)— all women are one and the same, so long as they draw in the votes?
This is not Palin’s fault (she is a person of true integrity)– but the Reb party team is surely “out of their minds” and mis-informed her, making her look foolish yet again.
Reb Party Chant to draw in women:
So long as you have the power if 8, you are great!

Posted by: Annee Klieen | September 13, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am

Common Sense.
Re. student aid/student loan. I was responding to another blogger’s implication that they were the same. Chill-out.

Posted by: Jimbo | September 13, 2008, 10:41 am 10:41 am

Obama is an egomaniac techno elitist..Just keep insulting Americans just because we are not all carrying Blackberries.

Posted by: AC | September 13, 2008, 10:41 am 10:41 am

Posted by: Reality Check | Sep 13, 2008 10:40:46 AM
LOL…boy you nailed that one.

Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am

As the Democratic minority tried throughout the fall of 2005 to get help for people in Louisiana and Mississippi, the Republicans wanted no part of it and despite his post-Katrina pledge to “do all that is necessary to fund essential relief and recovery efforts and help those in need,” John McCain was right there to shoot down every initiative that would have helped, including 3 Democratic-sponsored bills.

Posted by: ? | September 13, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am

Obama is an egomaniac techno elitist..Just keep insulting Americans just because we are not all carrying Blackberries.
Posted by: AC | Sep 13, 2008 10:41:24 AM
I guess Karl Rove didn’t update his playbook on that yet. Get up to speed that is old new and not true.

Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am

Gibson: Can anything be done about gun violence?
Palin: All this violence is resulting just from some people pulling a trigger right? Those people would NEVER have followed any laws anyway.
WHAT?!
Has Gov Palin considered:
a) The law-abiding citizens getting their guns stolen by criminals or their kids to go out and wreak havoc?
b) The usually law-abiding husband/wife who goes mad momentarily learning his/her spouse has an affair and just picks up a double-barrelled?
c) Remember the father who saw a shadow in the doorway and picked up his gun and fired, thinking it was a burglar, only for it to turn out to be his young son?
Her answers shows she doesn’t consider things properly at all.

Posted by: Logic | September 13, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am

Eat your heart out Obama – you picked Biden; you picked defeat! Your fault!

Posted by: rodney | September 13, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am

Ann,
Good question. Obama already explained that he didn’t want all the money going to no-bid contracts for Bush’s cronies to trickle down. Instead, Obama wanted the money to go towards actually getting the work done.
Obama/Biden 08!

Posted by: Common Sense | September 13, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am

Sen Clinton to be the attack dog for his campaign against Gov Palin.
Posted by: Paula | Sep 13, 2008 10:38:50 AM
More lies. The gift from the Republicans that keeps on giving. He has NOT asked her to attack Palin.

Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am

I guest Obama as a good EGOMANIAC TECHO ELITIST is expecting an email sent to his Blackberry the next time a terrorist attack takes place..UHHH

Posted by: AC | September 13, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am

People.. you can put all the logic you want.. but remember, this race is just a popularity contest. You just vote on likes.
Decisions have been made, ‘fair and square’. Like someone first– then make all the reasonings afterwords about their qualifications to justify your likings.
Go with your feelings.. go with the crowd. aka just like high-school. aka – Just like the Bush Administration.

Posted by: Jessem | September 13, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am

Dear Mariann,
“He lost every debate and lost the interview at the forum.”
Just an FYI:
1. There have been no debates yet – so how could Barack have “lost” them? (The first one is Sept. 26 and today is Sept. 13);
2. As far as the forum interview: How can you lose an interview? It wasn’t a debate, it was an INTERVIEW.
While I sincerely believe it is indeed your right to support whomever you wish to support, I would kindly ask you to
offer your opinions in ways that don’t use falsehoods to make your point.
Thanks, and blessings to you.

Posted by: Barbyrah | September 13, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am

Reality Check,
LOL! So true. Welcome to the reality blog.
Obama/Biden 08!

Posted by: Common Sense | September 13, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am

Really, how is Obama an egomaniac and elitist?
WHO belittled his work as a community organizer?
I’m disappointed in McCain. I may not have agreed with his stands, but I would still have respected him as a man if he hadn’t started using all those outright lies about Obama in his ads. I would’ve thought that being someone who got Swift-Boated by Bush last time he would now all-too well. And his choice or Sarah Palin was clearly political instead of to benefit America in the long run.

Posted by: Logic | September 13, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am

Posted by: GOP 4 EVER | Sep 13, 2008 10:52:21 AM
ROTFLMAO. Got that down to a T!!

Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am

GOP logic: I live next to Russia therefore I have foreign policy experience. McCain: ” no one knows more about energy than Palin ” they have a pipeline don’t ya know.

Posted by: linda n carolina | September 13, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am

Would that be cities in the US or around the world?
There of course many tenets to this. I would think that in a country like the US, a blanket ban on guns won’t work because of the Constitution and people being used to mindset of having the right to carry and bear arms. What I WOULD be for would be some form a gun control to ensure it’s not so easy for criminals and thugs to get hold of guns, especially in the city where people don’t exactly have the reason of “hunting” (unless they hunt people) for having guns- other than for personal protection.

Posted by: Logic | September 13, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am

Obama has sunk to a new low with his latest ad. McCain’s arms were broken when he was a prisoner of war. It is too painful for him to use a computer keyboard. Way to go Obama make fun of the disabled. Keep dreaming Obama but you will never win the White House now.
Palin/McCain – change we can see

Posted by: Jack | September 13, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am

Dems got caught with their pants down again. Even Graig Ferguson, a new American, knew of Palin. He did an interview with her back when Palin was first mentioned months ago. She made him an honorary Alaskan or something. Maybe key to a city. Whatever it was, I was tickled when Mccain picked. I felt a tingle run up my leg.

Posted by: Kitty | September 13, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am

Why are the democrats so hateful and resentful about their candidate being down in the polls? they call ´idiot, stupid, jerk´to everyone who disagree, offending all the time. If these are the tolerant liberals let me get off. I´m not for Obama but I don´t consider his voters are foolish.
So please keep the debate in reasonable and polite terms. That´s democracy, peole with different points of view who vote the representatives they like the best.

Posted by: Stephen from Indiana | September 13, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am

Obama’s new computer skill Ad is indeed an insult to many disalbed people. It is also an insult to many many senior citizens.
Obama has serious logical problem by making computer skill a qualification for presidency. Well, he just can’t find anything else to attack McCain. Obama is desperate…

Posted by: victory | September 13, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am

Are you sure McCain can’t used a computer keyboard because of the Viet Cong? I see him holding a microphone just fine…
(And also there are many different types of crime, Concerned in Ohio, and not all of them involve the use of guns. It could be lack of education, corruption or poverty in those cities that drives up the crime rate.)

Posted by: Logic | September 13, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am

obama supporters who make fun of Palin–only emphasizes more comparisions to obama himself….
just for a second TRY TO IMAGINE OBAMA ANSWERING ANY OF THE QUESTIONS GIBSON ASKED HER………
forget the stammering obama will cough up—just imagine what kind of answers he’ll say??
obama does not have the judgement to be a leader. he can not answer questions. look how he voted “present” during his STATE senate years…he can’t make up his mind on anything.
at least we are getting to know who Palin is….most folks still DON’t know really where obama stands on anything

Posted by: john212 | September 13, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am

Obama – purely creepy!

Posted by: rodney | September 13, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am

John McCain as President of the United States will have an assistant, as would Barack Obama, to use any computer technology needed in a flash upon instruction. Have you ever seen Barack Obama in all his campaign life texting a message? I have not.

Posted by: AC | September 13, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am

John McCain’s disabilites, which DO NOT limit his ability to be President of this country, were acquired in the service of his country and ARE NOT TO BE DENIGRATED. Barack Obama wouldn’t consider the country worth breaking a finger nail for. Get rid of the self-aggrandizing low life.

Posted by: AC | September 13, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am

AC, just wondering, other then you disliking Obama’s tactics, why is it that you support McCain?
Which of his policies do you agree with?

Posted by: Logic | September 13, 2008, 11:16 am 11:16 am

Stephen from Indiana
Obama is ahead on the electoral college map. There are about 8% undecided and these people have known McCain for more than 10 years. Ask yourself why they are not supporting him. Because he lack new ideas.
They will join the Obama wagon because they have common sense. They also love America too much to let the republicans ruin it.

Posted by: Krista | September 13, 2008, 11:16 am 11:16 am

Poor Barry he was just trying to be one of the guys when he called Palin a “moose shooter”.
I bet all the “hunters” out there got a good chuckle.

Posted by: riley | September 13, 2008, 11:16 am 11:16 am

Rodney
Palin is creepy. She thinks the war in Iraq is an order from God.

Posted by: Keith | September 13, 2008, 11:18 am 11:18 am

John McCain stand in the way of searching for MIA’s:
The United States had long sought to pressure Vietnam to provide complete information on POWs and MIAs as a condition for normalizing diplomatic relations.
In October 1990 John McCain said on the floor of the Senate: “Mr. President, I am anxious to construct a new relationship with our old adversary (Vietnam)”. He, who was in a Vietnamese prison camps for five and a half years, was pushing hard for normalized relations with Hanoi long before anyone else was.

Posted by: Deb | September 13, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am

Obama has not done anything to fight the corruption in Chicago. He even chose a campaign manager that worked for the Daley Machine–Axelrod.
Obama has been weak on crime even though violence in Chicago has increased.
He wants to weaken America too–it’s no wonder the middle east favors Obama.

Posted by: sally | September 13, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am

McCain will have a bipartisan cabinet. Obama certainly would not. He will pork barrel all the country’s money to people who are unwilling, not unable, unwilling to do anything for anyone else except themselves. This country’s culture of supporting do-nothing, free loaders must stop or the country will eventually by owned by another one. Don’t you get it?!!!

Posted by: AC | September 13, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am

her writers — from Rove
she dose not come up with these she just reads them.

Posted by: GHM | September 13, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am

McCain will have a bipartisan cabinet. Obama certainly would not. He will pork barrel all the country’s money to people who are unwilling, not unable, unwilling to do anything for anyone else except themselves. This country’s culture of supporting do-nothing, free loaders must stop or the country will eventually by owned by another one. Don’t you get it?!!!
Posted by: AC | Sep 13, 2008 11:21:56 AM
Too funny. Sarah Palin the Queen of Pork and you expect these two to straighten this country out. The Republicans have ripped off the middle class for far too long. NOT THIS TIME!

Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am

victory,
Computers have disability features. Government websites are required to be 508 compliant as well. Please get a clue. There is no excuse for McCain’s lack of interest in technology.
Obama/Biden 08!

Posted by: Common Sense | September 13, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am

I might have believed the John McCain of 2000 would have a bipartisan cabinet. I don’t recognise this McCain who has stooped to low smear tactics against Obama- such as claiming Obama wants to teach full-out sex ed to kindergarteners, when he is supporting AGE-APPROPRIATE sex ed- enough for kid’s to know if they’re being molested.
How is Obama pork-barrelling money to people who won’t do anything for themselves?I had the impression that he was giving tax cuts to help people who have lost jobs or losing their homes because of the economy being crashed by Bush. He’s also aimed at ensuring children get a good education with govt funding-in exchange for some sort of community service.
The reason our economy is in bad shape is because of Iraq, not free-loaders in any case. When you spend more than a billion dollars in Iraq instead of on the economy, that’s what happens. And, the US is going to get owned by China already- they are the ones paying for the Iraq war for us while Bush goes around trumpeting having a “cheap” war, and not mentioning about the enormous bill adding up that future generations will have to pay.

Posted by: Logic | September 13, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am

Obama has sunk to a new low with his latest ad. McCain’s arms were broken when he was a prisoner of war. It is too painful for him to use a computer keyboard. Way to go Obama make fun of the disabled. Keep dreaming Obama but you will never win the White House now.
Palin/McCain – change we can see
Posted by: Jack | Sep 13, 2008 11:03:02 AM
Gee haven’t they come up with speech recognition software? Hey there’s a concept.

Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am

McCain will support education and provide Americans with the skills to get a job plus he will support small business so this country can create jobs that will not go overseas. Obama thinks that he can create government jobs and programs to reward the do nothing, country second, free loader crowd.

Posted by: AC | September 13, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am

Obama is a weak man, he will not stand up for America.

Posted by: AC | September 13, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am

Pacific Moderate: EXCUSE ME, PACIFIC MODERATE….BUT OBAMA IS NO JOHN F KENNEDY, AND THE SCARY THING IS THAT HE IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT.
AT LEAST MARTIN LUTHER KING HAD SOME VALUES…HE WAS FOR A BABY’S LIFE TO LIVE.
OBAMA IS NOT MLK EITHER.
SARAH COULD BEAT OBAMA HANDS DOWN AND SHE ISN’T EVEN RUNNING FOR THE FRONT SPOT ON TICKET.
BABIES FOR MCCAIN/PALIN

Posted by: maggie | September 13, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am

Osama avoids any tough questions, the media has not asked him tougher questions.

Posted by: kerry | September 13, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am

LeeLee07 Look it up for yourself Im not lying to you Its the gods honest truth!
Please look it up yourself!

Posted by: Deb | September 13, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am

Another thing I love about Palin
If you watch her with the crowds, she will reach way out into the crowd to shake someone’s hand. Obama will barely pinch the people on the outside. It’s like he wished he had gloves on.

Posted by: Williams | September 13, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am

How is McCain going to create jobs if he doesn’t get rid of the big deficit from the Iraq War? He wants to keep the tax cuts for the upper-income permanent- while Obama will raise them- and also for those oil companies that are making a huge profit.
Sure, there may be some free-loaders who will take advantage of the system, but the policy will benefit Americans trying to get back on their own feet and out of the hole 8 years of disastrous Bush policies has shoved them into.

Posted by: Logic | September 13, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am

Posted by: maggie | Sep 13, 2008 11:31:45 AM
Ok I’ll play. How would she beat Obama?

Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am

And LeeLee07 Just so you know Im not attacking his service Im pointing out his lies I thank you for your families service also!

Posted by: Deb | September 13, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am

Another thing I love about Palin
If you watch her with the crowds, she will reach way out into the crowd to shake someone’s hand. Obama will barely pinch the people on the outside. It’s like he wished he had gloves on.
Posted by: Williams | Sep 13, 2008 11:33:39 AM
Oh geee I think I will vote for her just on that alone!

Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am

Palin is my kind of Feminist!
Dem for Palin/McCain – Change we will vote for

Posted by: Eva | September 13, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am

John,
We all know who Obama is. If you don’t, where have you been for the past 18 months? You’d like to find some deep rooted dirt to smear around, but there’s nothing there. Since there’s not, you claim “we don’t know him”.
Palin has been in this campaign for two weeks and has done ONE interview. She has hidden from the press to keep her on Entertainment Tonight. Her record does not reflect her words. Her actions do not either. They indicate she is willing to use the power given by the people for her own person agendas. That she was for what she no says she’s against. WE”VE HAD THAT FOR 8 YEARS AND HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT HER.
Palin, so far, has only been memorizing generic GOP tag lines and has no real knowledge to justify her ability.
I agree with you though. She is nothing and we shouldn’t even have to recognize her. However, the GOP and the media has used her as a storyline. They built her up and overhyped her because of ONE speech. (Which was given to her by BUSH speechwriters.)
The good news is that the media is getting over the love affair they had for two weeks and are now starting to show the lies that have been told daily by McCain/Palin.
I hope AMERICANS are listening, and more importantly, THINKING about the rhetoric they’ve been spewing.

Posted by: Carla Simmons | September 13, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am

Of course Osama hasn’t been asked any tough questions.
Why, he hasn’t even been caught yet. Last we checked, he was holed up in Afghanistan somewhere but Bush decided to let him go free and go on a wild goose chase in Iraq.

Posted by: Logic | September 13, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am

Palin interview with Gibson was great Did you all see how Obama bad peddled on O,reilly interview He finally admitted that the surge worked

Posted by: Wayne | September 13, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am

We will leave and join with the Republicans because we really believe the Presidency is far bigger than any political party …
We vote the candidate, not the party …
And the next best candidate for the Presidency of the United States after Hillary is MCCAIN.

Posted by: kerry | September 13, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am

With assistance there’s no reason McCain would have to be computer illiterate.
He himself admitted he’s just very, very late to learn about it:
“I am learning to get online myself, and I will have that down fairly soon, getting on myself,” McCain told the New York Times in an interview that appeared Sunday. “I don’t expect to be a great communicator, I don’t expect to set up my own blog, but I am becoming computer literate to the point where I can get the information that I need.”

Posted by: Danny | September 13, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am

AC, my 88 year old dad knows how to use a computer. It’s called staying with the times.

Posted by: annie | September 13, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am

Obama’s no better please!!!!
Obama wouldn’t know honesty if it jumped up and bit him…
He sat in the pews of a church and heard nothing in reference to his illustrious pastor that was derogatory……He realized how STUPID that sounded so, he launched this master speech that would set the record straight.. Even had the audacity(love this word) to tell US that WE had racial issues. I like that touch! I guess he would know coming from a racially charged atmosphere for two decades. Made this bit production of Hillary’s tax information which revealed nothing we didn’t already probably know. But, have received campaign contributions far exceeding their total 8 year gross income…Oh my goodness that one is crazy.
Took questionable donations from none other Tony Rezko……But was the only living soul in Chicago that didn’t know the dynamics associated to him. Didn’t know him still even though he sold you the house and lived right next door…… I love it!
Can’t be held responsible you were oblivious of everything that was going on around you. Receiving money from unregistered lobbyist, their families, as well as other business associates….. But, because they were unregistered it was OK……. Call that a little double standard wouldn’t you say? Didn’t understand the voting process while in the Senate and oops my Senate records mysteriously disappeared.. Yeah right! EVERYBODY is looking at him like maybe we have a nut loose.
He made this great BIG issue oh my god Hillary has embellished her trip to Bosnia she is not to be trusted…But you on the other hand…..This next one is one of my personal favorites he truly should be nominated for an award……….
Your father was airlifted into America by way of the Kennedy’s in 1959. Story brought a tear to my eye of how your parents were able to meet through the kindness of the Kennedy’s…….Unfortunately your father came here in 1960 the air lift had already occurred……So that says…. It never happened!

Posted by: kerry | September 13, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am

Also, when is Sarah Palin going to explain why Wasilla–during her time as mayor–was the only place in Alaska that charged rape victims $300 to $1200 for their own forensic tests?

Posted by: Danny | September 13, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am

AC, my 88 year old dad knows how to use a computer. It’s called staying with the times.
Posted by: annie | Sep 13, 2008 11:40:08 AM
My mom was 69 when she learned to use one. Also there are blind people that use them in the workplace with special modifications. There is no excuse why he can’t.

Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am

Why isn’t Peolosi out hammering Palin. She’s the Speaker of the House, and highest ranking female office holder in the Democratic Party. Instead you give us Wasserman? Something is amiss. Seems like our own party leaders are backing away from a fight with Palin. Bunch of chickens. Is it because Palin is right about the Hillary matter? Looks that way.
Why did Obama pick Biden, remind me? Is it because long-winded Joe got 1% of the Democratic vote, and Hillary only got 50%?

Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | September 13, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am

Gee, what was he going to say otherwise? The surge didn’t work? Unlike Palin who continues insisting she fought the Bridge to Nowhere even though there is plenty of documentary evidence to the contrary?
In the first place, Bush should never have jumped into Iraq like this-which why Obama opposed the war. Now look at the state of civil war in the country. Even with the surge now, it’s too late to stop Al-Qaeda and the insurgency from taking root in the country. They should have provided the Iraqi army soldiers with jobs instead of giving it to the private contractors who only drove up the costs of the war and left dozens of angry young men with guns with too much time on their hands.

Posted by: Logic | September 13, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am

In an interview with the New York Times, published on April 30th, Maya Soetoro-Ng, Obama’s younger half sister, told the Times, “My whole family was Muslim, and most of the people I knew were Muslim.”

Posted by: kerry | September 13, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am

Posted by: kerry | Sep 13, 2008 11:42:24 AM
Why are you bringing up old story lines? The smears aren’t gonna cut it this time around.

Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am

Deb,
That’s ridiculous.
WCM

Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | September 13, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am

The media loves to pick on Hillary but it has barely brought to light Obama’s many lies, exaggerations and embellishments. Here are just some of his many lies: 1) His parents met at the Selma march (in fact, he was born 4 years before Selma). 2) He was fluent in Indonesian as a child. 3) He was involved in a campaign against asbestos in public housing. 4) At age 9 he had a “racial awakening” when he read an article in “Life” (later he said in “Ebony”) which he described (no such article in either magazine). 5) He has exaggerated his role in immigration reform, housing policy and community organizing 6) He claims credit for passing nuclear leak legislation that never got out of committee. 7) He said the Kennedys funded his father’s migration from Kenya to America (a lie) (See L.A. Times article, 3-30) 8) He said lobbyists won’t work in his White House and later contradicted himself 9) He originally said he didn’t have knowledge of Rezko’s wrongdoing and not much of a relationship with him and that Rezko didn’t raise much money for him (later he revised all this) 10) He said he didn’t get contribution from oil companies (he did) 11) Obama contradicted himself about his knowledge of Rev. Wright’s troubling views. 12) In Obama’s books he has exaggerated, embellished (or invented) stories of his life… for example, this account (by one of his own supporters!) on one of his past jobs: … And there are more!
Why don’t you look into these things, Jake, and do a story on Obama’s inaccuracies, embellishments and lies.

Posted by: kerry | September 13, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am

Hey Annie: 88-year old grandmother still lives on a dirt floor? Grandson should send money for a residence upgrade. But he has to keep it all for his lifestyle. By the way, McCain uses computers or didn’t you know that?

Posted by: AC | September 13, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am

Anyone can type on a pc but how many on this page has flown a fighter jet while being shot at It take a lot more skills to do that than learn how to pc work I think he got better thing to do than learn about some pc He has people on his payroll that can do that Beside Obama I’m sure has people doing his computer work for him That called delegation

Posted by: Wayne | September 13, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am

Deb -
John McCain was a POW. It is not for any of us to say what was the level of his endurance or what it should be.
We expect our POWs to hold out against the enemy as much as humanly possible, but at a certain point, and that point is different for everyone …
Do you think you would have been able to hold out against daily torture for 5 years?
PUMA!

Posted by: LeeLee07 | September 13, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am

Stop insulting obama okay

Posted by: Kelly | September 13, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am

Where is the rest of Obama’s family? We only know about Michele and kids… Lets have them come forward and talk about their big brother, Obama. Why doesn’t somebody find them and interview them?

Posted by: AC | September 13, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am

Many disillusioned Democrats have already switched to the more centrist McCain. The Democratic Party is not in touch with Mainstream America. Hillary was their only hope for a return to the White House. Maybe they really are more concerned about securing a filibuster proof congress?
Hillary Clinton has spoken, and it is now very obvious that the Democratic Party has selected the weaker presidential candidate! This primary race has revealed the underbelly of the now very left-wing Democratic Party and the left-wing media.
Only Hillary Clinton can bring healing, hope and balance to this skewed party and its extreme left-wing presumptive nominee.
I support Hillary Clinton all the way but Barack Obama lacks the trust, the gravitas and the character to be president of the United States of America.
Could a Barack Obama/Hillary Clinton ticket add some of the missing elements to the flawed Barack Obama?

Posted by: kerry | September 13, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am

West Coast–
Personally I think Palin is doing a good job of defeating herself. It gives too much dignity to Palin to have high ranking people take her on.
I also see the VP job as beneath Hillary, honestly. If she couldn’t be President, I think she is best in a job where she can be a powerhouse completely on her own terms.

Posted by: Danny | September 13, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am

What about an openly obvious anti-Clinton crusade by the Party (Dean, Pelosi, Richardson) , the DNC, the pundits, the Obama team, the MSM and all the crazed but vitriolic new democrats that Obama inspired to extremes of bigotry and hate.
The vicious name-calling and internet attacks against fellow Democrats. And The Clintons being called racists early on to sway a key demographic didn’t help her any.
the propaganda message (of divisive form ) of unity from the Obama camp.

Posted by: kerry | September 13, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am

Clinton did not have “failed” campaign. She was set-up to fail by news organizations such as Clinton Nemesis News (CNN) -with it’s Hillary hating commentaries and the rest of the sexist smear campaign while Obama was made into some god-send. Hell can freeze over before this Democratic will vote for BO. True Blue’s for Hillary will vote for McCain/Palin!!.

Posted by: kerry | September 13, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am

Hillary was not picked because Barack did not want 2 VP’s! Bill & Hillary. John picked Sarah because he was loosing big time! He would rather win than take care of the Country. If he is such a hero and there were other men released with him from the same prison that had stayed the same time why are they not HEROS also???.

Posted by: lions2tigers | September 13, 2008, 11:59 am 11:59 am

It started with Oprah and the celebrity fest.
It ended with the superdelegates dragging a limping and bleeding Obama across the finish line to hide the fact that he did not get the minimum number of pledged delegated.
It was the unfairness- why NOT take it to the convention, like the white guys of primaries past got to do?
Why not wait until the convention for the superdelegates to weigh in?
Now we are stuck with a dictator to be- who rallies the youth to new levels of antipathy against fellow democrats.

Posted by: kerry | September 13, 2008, 11:59 am 11:59 am

Yes, people who support Hillary will vote for a ticket that will oveturn Roe vs Wade?
Are you kidding?!
Hillary is a thousand times the woman Palin is. Hillary didn’t need to be shielded from the media, nor did she cry sexism when McCain referred to her policies as lipstick on a pig, unlike SOMEONE.

Posted by: Logic | September 13, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm

Why don’t you Obama people place the blame where it belongs–on you and your fearless “leader”? His greed for power and that of the democratic party leaders knows no bounds. Please do not insult my intelligence by telling me I should support Obama. He stands for nothing that I believe in! I am educated, am not bitter, and I do own a gun and go to church. All of these things are against Obama’s ideals. Oh, I am also not a “victim” like Michelle and Barrack. Only hard-working and optimistic, but do not believe that “hope” will pay my bills–( I am also not a republican). McCain is moderate–best bet–if no Clinton.

Posted by: kerry | September 13, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm

Sarah is not a feminist?
That’s not something bad!
She has all the woman dignity, courage, and wisdom,…. but no femimist stupidity.
Gov. Palin for VP 08!

Posted by: victory | September 13, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm

“Show me where I’ve ever said that there’s absolute proof that nothing that man has ever conducted or engaged in has had any effect or no effect on climate change.”
– Gov. Sarah Palin, in an interview last night on ABC News.
“A changing environment will affect Alaska more than any other state, because of our location. I’m not one though who would attribute it to being man-made.”
– Palin, in an interview with Newsmax on August 29, 2008.

Posted by: Palin is a LIAR too | September 13, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm

But manipulation of the public with the help of the media works. Then when the party and the DNC and the Superdelegates chose between AAs and youth and Older lifelongs and women.
They gambled wrong that the youth and blacks would defect, but not the lifelongs and women.
They were wrong. We have no more loyalty to the party that betrayed HRC, than blacks had. We will go, they will stay.

Posted by: kerry | September 13, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm

Reformer
Two high-ranking McCain campaign officials were longtime lobbyists for companies at center of sex-drugs-oil Interior Department scandal.

Posted by: McCain is no reformer, he's a LIAR | September 13, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm

inking Ahead
McCain state campaign co-chair files suit to begin vote purge in Wisconsin

Posted by: McCain is no reformer, he's a LIAR and a CHEATER | September 13, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm

I support Obama, and I have to agree that yes, McCain is moderate. But what about Palin? Not so.

Posted by: Logic | September 13, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm

It’s become pathological. John McCain just claimed on TV that Sarah Palin has never requested an earmark for her state — when actually her state gets more earmarks than any other state in the country. And this year she asked for $197 million worth of them herself.
Even the AP couldn’t ignore his lying — even though they phrased it in their own anemic way. “When pressed about Palin’s record of requesting and accepting such money for Alaska, McCain ignored the record and said: “Not as governor she didn’t.”
For the record Palin requested $197 million this year and $256 million last year. Per capita, that’s $288 this year and $376 last year.
To give you some perspective, Palin herself requested at least ten times the dollar value of earmarks as most states get total every year.

Posted by: McCain=LIAR | September 13, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm

I was a Hillary supporter but I would never vote for McCain. I don’t care if he has a woman running mate. It’s not about that. It’s about whose policies I agree with most and that’s the dems. We’re had Bush for 8 years. McCain really is a continuation of the Bush policies. The change we need is a different party in office.

Posted by: annie | September 13, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm

Deb –
It’s called propaganda. McCain is not the first POW to have done this nor will he be the last.
Statements like those are usually obtained from prisoners under great duress.
You believe McCain’s captors treated him with love and respect? McCain was their enemy.
PUMA!

Posted by: LeeLee07 | September 13, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm

Precisely the point. We cannot have serial and proven liars to be the President of the United States of America.
Bush lied to the US, and also the world that joined his coalition about the WMDs in Iraq. Even if it was faulty intelligence, he should never have jumped into Iraq like that without any careful consideration. And look where there got us?

Posted by: Logic | September 13, 2008, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm

Sorry Obama – This is one Hillary supporter that will vote McCain come this November. You will have no one to blame for your your loss in November but yourself, your racist church, your crooked friends AND your nasty juvenile supporters. Go back to Chicago and clean that up before you try to clean up our country. No Obama – NEVER.

Posted by: kerry | September 13, 2008, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm

Kerry, why did you support Hillary then? What she fights for are completely different from what McCain and Palin (especially Palin) believe.

Posted by: Logic | September 13, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm

So lets all unite behind the party and the candidate that trashed and bashed and disrespected us AND our candidate.
Unity is no longer possible. The haters took care of that.

Posted by: kerry | September 13, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm

Obama needs to talk more about his father side of his family..What is he afraid of?
He is willing to put his roots aside and make us believe that only his mother side of the family matters to him..WHY?

Posted by: Obama Nemisis | September 13, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm

Obama mocking annie oakley and brushing Hill off his shoulders took care of that.
Michelle Obama’s taped interview where she said she would not vote for Hillary… took care of the loyalty to party and nomiee, argument.
Obama supporters, YOU cost Obama and the DEMS this election.

Posted by: kerry | September 13, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm

LeeLee07
That would be fine except he told the same story as he did then once he was home… To both the press and to the DOD. How do you explain that ?

Posted by: Deb | September 13, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm

This true democrat will now leave the new UNdemocratic party of avid haters.
That is not the party I belonged to all my life.
Hate will NEVER unite.
When you learn that lesson and respect and tolerance… I may come back.

Posted by: kerry | September 13, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm

Obama’s father left him and his mother for a lucrative career in Harvard, and Obama got to meet his father only about once. He felt kind of abandoned by his father. On the other hand, his white mother and grandparents were the ones that took care and raised him.

Posted by: Logic | September 13, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm

Obama – Olympic class flip-flopper!

Posted by: rodney | September 13, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm

The more I read and hear the more its obvious Obama is not winning over Hillary supporters, myself included. It’s not just the women that related to Hillary, it was the blue collar hard working people of this country…He couldn’t connect with them during the primary and he isn’t connecting with them now. I don’t think that would be different regardless of whom McCain picked as his VP running mate. Choosing Sarah Palin has done one crucial thing, its caused people to take a second look at John McCain. He made a smart strategic decision that will lead him to a win. That’s what a President has to do, make strategic decisions that will result in a win for our country. Obama’s strategic decision to choose Biden to boost his foreign policy credentials, has proven to be a losing decision. His most important decision to date has given some insight into his strategic thinking, and it doesn’t look good. What a slap in the face to all those who supported Clinton, and then to expect unity within the party. It’s arrogant, and his arrogance in strategizing foreign policy matters will slap this country in its face if Obama is elected. I wish it was Hillary Clinton that I was voting for, but Obama is not an acceptable alternative. McCain is!
Virginia is for McCain/Palin!

Posted by: Angela | September 13, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm

Obama supporters, YOU cost Obama and the DEMS this election.
Posted by: kerry | Sep 13, 2008 12:09:53 PM
Right Kerry, all 18 million of us. Sorry not buying it.

Posted by: oo | September 13, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm

Obama started it off by pulling his grandma from under the bus. He acknowledged her and the fact that she raised him and he said that tonight was for her. He said she was in Hawaii and could not make it because of her health. I guess it is all the same, he does not want a typical white person around him anyway.

Posted by: kerry | September 13, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm

McCain Top Economic Adviser: He Will Raise Taxes
how many friggin LIES can Mccain tell in one week?

Posted by: ram | September 13, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm

I’ll vote for Obama when the “new” democrats learn the one precious lesson: hate does not unite.

Posted by: kerry | September 13, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm

Why did John Mccain seal his service record in 1980 and only on his order can it released ? If he is the hero and the story is true why hide it ?
PS 1980 the same year he visited Vietnam and called in the senate for normal relations with Vietnam ? Dispite the US government trying to press for information on MIA’s before doing such ?????

Posted by: Deb | September 13, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm

I think Charlie Gibson conducted a very sexist interview. Why doesn’t he have Obama back and take him to task for flip flopping on off shore drilling, the Iraq war and literally everything else he said he stood for in the primary campaign. His lies and his mind changing rival anything any brainless woman in any venue could ever have been guilty of. I want Charlie Gibson to have him back and GRILL him on this issue and ask him “do you think if you had been a woman, you would have done otherwise?” It is to S. Palin’s credit that she could use the diverse situation of that interview to her credit, but WE ALL KNOW FOLKS that Obama could not and would not be able to. So let’s be fair interview him from a sexist point of view Charlie. Why not or are you a biased journalist?

Posted by: AC | September 13, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm

“grit and determination”
That’s what Sarah thinks are the main requirements for a president or VP.
I suppose thats all she brings to the republican ticket. Hillary had and has a lot more to offer than “grit and determination.”
What a patronizing assessment of another woman. Would she characterize a male contender that way?

Posted by: estherc | September 13, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm

kerry, you seem to be the one full of hate.

Posted by: oo | September 13, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm

Obama has been drilled on all of that already. He has made himself available to be questioned. He even went on Billy O’Reilly.
Gibson was not sexist. Stop screaming sexism. Any candidate who is running for the VP needs to be presented to voters through media interviews. Gibson had to ask all those questions because Palin decided to hide from the media and didn’t make any statements on what her views were unlike Obama, Biden and McCain.
P.S I’m a woman, for the record.

Posted by: Logic | September 13, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm

This mess was caused by the DNC and the super delegates and they will have to answer to all the Democrats after Obama loses in November.

Posted by: kerry | September 13, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm

Other people here are not calling you racist. And the whole racist thing was because of Bill Clinton’s comment that “Even Jesse Jackson could win (I can’t remember which) this state”.
They accused them of playing the race card, not that they were racists. And even for that, I have great respect for Clinton who actually left office with a budget surplus and for Hillary who fights for the things we women stand for.

Posted by: Logic | September 13, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm

I want Obama to produce his father’s family. He is hiding them because of their poverty and he doesn’t want to be associated with them. Not because he is ashamed of them, but because he knows that people will realize that as president he will not represent the middle class, only the poorest people in the country because he has a special interest in redistributing wealth without work of merit to the poor. Be careful folks, your pockets are about to be fleeced.

Posted by: AC | September 13, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm

This mess was caused by the DNC and the super delegates and they will have to answer to all the Democrats after Obama loses in November.
Posted by: kerry | Sep 13, 2008 12:20:09 PM
Again, 18 million of us voted for Obama. So don’t lump us in with “all” democrats.

Posted by: oo | September 13, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm

The interview was more about Charlie than Palin. He was trying to hard to impress his competition and I think he failed. You can ask tough question without his condescending demeanor.
I was the same questions asked of Obama and Biden. Has anyone questioned Obama tough question in one on one setting???
Well the way I see it:
DEMS ARE UNITED BY HATE
REPS ARE UNITED BY LOVE (OF SARAH PALIN)

Posted by: FRIEDA | September 13, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm

How has Obama agitated hate and division?
How about Palin’s attempts to start a culture war between small town America and the big cities?

Posted by: Logic | September 13, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm

LeeLee07
Ive already read that one its the modern day ‘tale’ of back then. Look up the storys from his return! Look up DOD ducuments.. The story today isnt the truth he told back then!

Posted by: Deb | September 13, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm

Absolutely correct.
We are united by HATE of FOUR MORE YEARS of George Bush policies.
By dirty tricks and attempts at Swift Boating.
By being so confrontational and seeing people in black and white.
By the sad fall of Americans’ standing in the world because of what has happened in Iraq.

Posted by: Logic | September 13, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm

LOGIC: Obama has never been drilled on those questions in the sexist way that Palin was questioned. You didn’t listen closely because you did not listen with an open mind perhaps. I want Obama questioned by Charlie Gibson with the same smirk on his face and the same references to gender that he used in the Palin interview. Palin has not hidden from anybody. She simply has not been available long enough to reveal all the information people want to hear. She has been the best received, the busiest candidate in the short time she has had ever. Why are you afraid of the sexism issue? And, I am a woman and you are not logical, but closed minded and blind.

Posted by: Obama Nemisis | September 13, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm

Deb -
Are you going to hold McCain to those propaganda statements he made while POW?
PUMA!

Posted by: LeeLee07 | September 13, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm

Obama should of picked Hillary Clinton – she is qualified to lead – AND brings 18 MIL voters along with her. This mistake will cost the DNC the election.
GOV Palin did a great job – in spite of Charlie – he was Arrogant, rude and downright mean. His questions were OK – just his arrogant tone. SHE is a
U.S. GOV – show some respect – WHO do you think you are Charlie????

Posted by: Molly | September 13, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm

By McCain’s own account, after three or four days he cracked. He promised his Vietnamese captors, “I’ll give you military information if you will take me to the hospital …
“His Vietnamese captors soon realized their POW, John Sidney McCain III, came from a well-bred line in the American military elite. . .The Vietnamese realized, this poor stooge has propaganda value. The admiral’s boy was used to special treatment, and his captors knew that. They were working him.”
“. . .two weeks into his stay at the Vietnamese hospital, the Hanoi press began quoting him. It was not ‘name rank and serial number, or kill me’. as specified by the military code of conduct. McCain divulged specific military information: he gave the name of the aircraft carrier on which he was based, the number of U.S. pilots that had been lost, the number of aircraft in his flight formation, as well as information about the location of rescue ships.”
“…McCain was held for five and half years. The first two weeks’ behavior might have been pragmatism, but McCain soon became North Vietnam’s go-to collaborator…..McCain cooperated with the North Vietnamese for a period of three years. His situation isn’t as innocuous as that of the French barber who cuts the hair of the German occupier. McCain was repaying his captors for their kindness and mercy.
“This is the lesson of McCain’s experience as a POW: a true politician, a hollow man, his only allegiance is to power. The Vietnamese, like McCain’s campaign contributors today, protected and promoted him, and, in return, he danced to their tune. . .”Ted Lane Sampley

Posted by: Deb | September 13, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm

Obama was questioned by O’Reilly who smirked at him and also kept on interrupting him fairly hostilely. Anyway, fact is, men in general do not face sexism in politics, but yes, Obama has gone into an interview with an interviewer who was determined to ask him hard questions as O’Reilly did.
Please do not insinuate that I am close minded and whatnot. I may not agree with you but I wouldn’t insult your intelligence for not agreeing with me.
In my opinion, Gibson did need to ask Palin some hard questions about where she stands. And it showed in her lack of foreign policy knowledge and casual talk about getting into a war with Russia. She did hide from the media, McCain aides said they wouldn’t let her be questioned, claiming that they would decide if it was in the ticket’s best interest. In my opinion, what about the country’s best interest? People want to get a better feel of her before they vote.

Posted by: Logic | September 13, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm

Back to sexism. Has Obama being questioned on Why he is running for President when he is responsible for two young kids? Well. Lets have Charlie Gibson ask this question next time he gets to drill Obama.

Posted by: AC | September 13, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm

LOGIC. Don’t be so compassionate When we know that you are an Obama supporter. You must be used to be treated the way Charlie Gibson did Polin..as a stupid, inferior member of the human race.

Posted by: AC | September 13, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm

All we know about Mr. America community organizer is the word ´change´
- How will he act if North Korea and Iran continue their nuclear plans? CHANGE
- How will he act if Russia attacks our european allies? CHANGE
- How will he revive the economy by only rising taxes? CHANGE
- How will he improve education to let parents choose? CHANGE
- How will he cut down our dependence on foreign oil? CHANGE
Sorry but his arguments are exceedingly poor. McCain gives me more confidence.

Posted by: Stephen from Indiana | September 13, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm

LeeLee07
He made the same statement when he returned!
OK see you later! Again thanks for your familes service : )
Have a good day!

Posted by: Deb | September 13, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm

Stephen from Indiana
You do know that Sarah Palin put out a press release before she was picked as mccain vp running mate saying she supported Barack Obama’s energy plan ?
She said Baracks energy plan is great for Alaska and great for America.
LOL You silly man !

Posted by: Deb | September 13, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm

In spite of the obvious attempts by Charlie Gibson to produce the opposite, Sarah Palin “zinged” Obama with just the right tone.
And, it is actually Obama and the Demcrats who are doing the most damage to his own campaign.
Specifically, Obama has not succeeded in getting Clinton supporters to bury primary campaign grudges or to win them over for perceived sins on his part.
The chameleon face of Obama serves to emphasize the conflict between his early campaign riffs about change and the typical readjustment that candidates usually make after they win in primaries and head into the general election hurts him: people are giving McCain more of a pass on this than Obama.
But the biggest factor seems to be the this: John McCain, Sarah Palin, and the Republican team running the McCain campaign are simply outperforming Obama, Biden, and the team that’s running the Obama campaign.
Once again Democrats don’t seem to be as good at what it takes to move votes steadily their way in a general election Presidential campaign, even during a year when it that many predicted would be landslide year.
Meanwhile, former President Bill Clinton — who apparently has only talked to Obama once or twice since the primaries — has been less than ringing in his endorsement of Obama.
That sends a signal to some hard-core Clinton supporters about what to do — or not to do — in this election.
After all, if John McCain and Sarah Palin win this election (which polls indicate they may) the chances of Hillary Clinton running again in 2012 improve dramatically.
Sufficient reason for Hillary supporters, especially women voters, to voter McCain/Palin.
And…
As always…
Anybody But Obama…

Posted by: Jayhawk | September 13, 2008, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm

Logic: If Palin was not available to the media because aides kept her away, she can hardly be blamed for that as you blame her. People will certainly “get a feel for her” not “of her” as you describe because she will be quite available to the media until the election. Gibson did smirk, perhaps O’Reilly smirked, but he did not ask Obama if his children were being taken care of while he campaigned. Obama has had 20 months and experience in federal government to draw upon, Palin has done admirably very admirably compared to him. I think you do not understand sexism when it is happening because you are probably the victim of your upbringing. I am sorry for you, but you just don’t see what happened. IT IS TIME THAT MEN FACE SEXISM IN POLITICS IF WOMEN HAVE TO. What is in the country’s best interest is that the country grow strong and not go deeper into debt because of free money thrown to people who will just consume it and not give anything back to the country. We want no more of that! Wake up honey.

Posted by: Obama Nemisis | September 13, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm

Stephen from Indiana
You do know that Sarah Palin put out a press release before she was picked as mccain vp running mate saying she supported Barack Obama’s energy plan ?
She said Baracks energy plan is great for Alaska and great for America.
LOL You silly man !

Posted by: Deb | September 13, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm

Look, you are in every way entitled to your opinion.
And I do know about sexism, the terrible gender inequality in the Middle-East and other places. I know such things exist. My upbringing was perfectly fine, thank you. Even in developed countries. sexism does exist in the work place. I am perfectly aware of that.
To me, Gibson wasn’t being condescending. Even if you think he was-I can understand how different people may view it-what makes you think it is because he is sexist? It could be because he just doesn’t agree with her, not because she’s a woman.

Posted by: Logic | September 13, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm

As for the O’Reilly interview with Obama, Bill was pretty gentle with Obama.
But, O’Reilly did manage to get the Obama illusion and mistakes concerning Iraq out in the open.
Bill pointed out that Obama was against the war when he couldn’t and didn’t vote on it (wasn’t in the Senate, yet).
And, Obama supported the war in almost every vote (if not every vote) when he showed up to vote or didn’t vote “present.”
And, Obama was against the surge and railed against it saying that it wouldn’t work.
Then, Obama admitted that the surge had been successful beyone his “wildest dreams.”
But, Obama refused to admit being wrong on even a single issue concerning the war.
We all noticed that after the O’Reilly interview, Obama opted for friendlier turf such as David Letterman and Saturday Night Live.
No hard questions there…
But, no surprise, either…
And…
As always…
Anybody But Obama…

Posted by: Jayhawk | September 13, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm

Wow — So it turns out that in addition to Governor Palin’s other magical powers (like making her bridge-to-nowhere policy appear and disappear at will), she can channel the spirit of Senator Obama and tell what he’s thinking at any given time.
Strangely, this makes me more comfortable with her. If she does become our Vice President, I’d want to know that in an international crisis, she would have access to the mind of someone smart and qualified like Senator Obama. So if Obama is now Palin’s spirit guide, good for Palin.

Posted by: fjfjdvdv | September 13, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm

@Obamanemesis: I COMPLETELY agree with you on everything except the one last line. If a woman refuses to see the obvious sexism that is being revealed since Hillary and her supporters were bashed; now Palin, theY are simply refusing to, because they think it will diminish the fact that they support Obama. You can support a candidate and still acknowledge and condemn a wrong. WAKE UP LADIES! The sexism is there, it is real and apparently a lot of people don’t want to face it.

Posted by: irma | September 13, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm

Sexism is a belief or attitude that one gender or sex is inferior to or less valuable than the other. Ageism is stereotyping and prejudice against individuals or groups because of their age and Racism, by its simplest definition, is the belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race. WHICH FORM OD DISCRIMINATION WILL TRIUMPH IN NOVEMBER?

Posted by: SEE | September 13, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm

Paula: you wrote:
“John McCain played a masterstroke by choosing Palin as a running mate. If some people are accusing him of using a woman to rope in women voters, then Obama is also guilty of using women to counter Sen Clinton first (remember the comments of Sen Claire Mccaskill and Gov Sebelius on behalf of the Obama campaign against Sen Clinton) and how Caroline Kennedy was employed by the Obama campign to use the reputation of the Kennedy clan as a hedge against Sen Clinton’s place for the VP slot. Now Obama campaign wants Sen Clinton to be the attack dog for his campaign against Gov Palin.”
YOU ARE SO RIGHT–OBAMA: “EGO FIRST.” His pick of Biden over Clinton is the single reason he will lose in Nov. Now he wants Clinton to do his dirty work–such shameful hypocrisy. I don’t love Palin, but I can’t stand Obama. His arrogance is unmatched and he deserves to lose. Obama made it clear that he didn’t need the Clintons–which was the same as handing the White House to the Republicans.

Posted by: DuskyDakota | September 13, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm

I do know sexism exists in today’s society. In situations when things aren’t clear cut, what good does it do to scream sexism all the time? I would rather just ignore it and prove those people wrong.
I mean, would you want African-Americans saying that if Obama doesn’t win in November it’s because those who didn’t vote for him must have all been racists? And not that you voted for the candidate because he best represented your views?

Posted by: Logic | September 13, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm

Diggin the fact that the GOP bloggers are claiming victory with a month and a half still left before the election. All because of their frighteningly unqualified beauty pagent runner-up has gotten some press.
The Electoral Votes don’t indicate that McCain/Palin are “winning” anything. And polls change with the wind. With McCain and Palin spewing so much hot air for two weeks, that wind will change directions again.
The reality of Sarah Palin’s lack of knowlegde is coming out. No doubt, given her weak performance on ABC, they’ll keep her hidden from the “mean press” except for the spoon fed FOX interviews.
McFlop will also be challenged about his sudden change of heart on many critical issues. What did they do with the “maverick” anyway? He’s now just a GOP puppet.
Being from Arlington, VA; I can see the Pentagon from the rooftop of our building. (By Republican standards, I must be a military expert right) White House is 10 minutes away.
The number of Obama signs in yards around here out number McCain 10:1. But southern VA will lean heavily toward McCain because “he’s an americun and he’s white”.
The people who actually work in our government don’t want the Republicans in control. They’ve seen first hand how a Republican led administration operates. Corruption and back room backscratch “policy” making are the norm. Palin is just the newest member invited into the Good Ol Boy network. She is a pushover and will tow the line for them. The “maverick” has joined them to get elected.
McCain wanted Liberman, but he caved in to the extremimst right wing – again. He was too gutless to even chose his own running mate. This is the “maverick” the Republicans are touting.
It cracks me up they can’t even run on their own platform. (Because there is none) They had to steal Obama’s message. Now McCain and Palin are all about “change”.
—————————————-
Meet the Press Interview:
TIM RUSSERT: The fact is you are different than George Bush.
SEN. McCAIN: No. No. The fact is that I have agreed with President Bush far more than I have disagreed. And on the transcendent issues, the most important issues of our day, I’ve been totally in agreement and support of President Bush.
THOSE ARE McCAIN’S OWN WORDS. CAN’T BELIEVE SOME PEOPLE ARE STILL BUYING THE GOP SPIN! HELLLLOOOOO.

Posted by: From VA | September 13, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm

Obama is going down
McCain/Palin 227
Obama/Biden 217

Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 13, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm

Michell vetoed Hillary.
Others in the Obama campaign wanted Hillary.
Michelle said NO. Final answer.
Obama gave in to Michelle.
They all now realize it was a biiiiiiiig mistake. Fatal.
That is why Michelle has now been sent back home, away from the daily decision-making of the campaign.

Posted by: Zank | September 13, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm

Discrimination based on gender is violation of human rights. When Obama was asked tough questions by O’Reilly, there were not smirks and a condescending tone of voice by O’Reilly. Mr Gibson is a journalist, he is not a judge.

Posted by: AC | September 13, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

Population of Alaska = 683,478.
Population of Indianapolis = 741,952
Population of Chicago = 2,783,726
Gee, Gov of Alaska for a year and a half. Mayor of town only twice the size of my high school. Best buds with the oil execs. Now I feel better.

Posted by: Big Deal | September 13, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm

AC: you are right–Palin must prove that, as Governor of a state and a “hockey mom,” she is not just a hockey mom. That is by definition sexism and yet that is the burden that the media and automatic Palin-haters our there put on her. Ask yourself, did Ronald Reagan have to prove he was executive as Gov. of CA rather than just a Hollywood movie star or granduate of an unknown college? No, because he was a man. If he had been Rosie Reagan, she would have never been elected. Change Palin’s gender and the condescending, patronizing interrogation tactics would not be used. America still is sexist and it will be the defining issue of this election. Had Obama not been sexist in picking Biden over Clinton, he would not be looking at a growing gap in the race in favor of McCain.

Posted by: DuskyDakota | September 13, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

Look, maybe Gibson wasn’t sexist. Maybe he was. But the more we keep on associating every condescension with sexism, what good does it do?
To be treated equally we can’t give people the impression that every little thing will offend us and be decried as sexism. Women CAN take some tough questioning as men can.

Posted by: Logic | September 13, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm

Palin is STILL inside Ohbama’s head…
like a bad migraine. Small town girl’s
got real mojo.

Posted by: grizzly bare | September 13, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm

From VA: your message is so sexist it makes me want to vomit (as a woman and former Dem of 20 years). Go ahead, keep referring to Palin as “unqualified beauty pagent runner-up.” Ronald Reagan was an actor for 20 years and before that a sports broadcaster. Does that matter once you’ve become the GOVERNOR of your state? Or should good-looking people (women in particular) stay out of politics? You tell me what is different between Reagan in 1975 and Palin now. STOP THE SEXISM PLEASE. IT IS JUST MAKING WOMEN LIKE ME EVEN MORE UPSET AND LESS LIKELY RI VOTE FOR OBAMA.

Posted by: DuskyDakota | September 13, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm

Let us be vigilant in our observation of the media now. They are immune to lawsuit as journalists. Send women to interview Palin as it is possible that people like Gibson are not introspective enough to realize their voice tones and facial expressions combined with their questions may shape the campaign. Palin will weather all the tough questions, but we should not tolerate gender-bias in journalism which violates federally protected civil rights. The facts are these: the economic situation in a large portion of this country requires two salaries, both the husband’s and the wife’s to pay a mortgage, car payments and fund the needs of raising children. Most women do not have the choice of staying home and being mothers only. It is possible to pay rent and a car payment and survive as an individual, but if you are raising a family, you must choose between your children and your mortgage because you have to have your car to get to the grocery store and the doctor and the school in some cases. So, if women are forced by circumstances into the work place, then let us not tolerate any sexism in journalism and they come forward to serve the country. It is an abominable thing to do Mr. Gibson. You need some self-awareness training as do much of the rest of your male age-group, I suppose. This is a call for just that.

Posted by: Fyrestorme | September 13, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm

Did Charlie hurt poor Sarah Palin’s feelings?
I guess the questions too hard. Well FOX will spoon feed her so she can recite her rehersed, generic responses without the deer in the headlights look next time.
Guess you don’t like your hero being shown for who she is – a lack luster politician who has little knowledge about international affairs, domestic economics, and global diplomacy.
Now, poor victim Sarah Palin is crying about sexism. The exact thing she ridiculed Hillary Clinton about just a few moths ago! Yet when pools shows WHITE PEOPLE are the only ones moved by Palin it’s not racism right? Hypocrites.
Charlie was tough because all of the other candidates are well known at this point and have done tons of interviews. There’s less than two months until the election. Ms Palin was afraid of the press, wouldn’t do any press conferences, and we know NOTHING about her. The Republicans know the less we know, the better. That way, she can be whatever you want her to be. Even better, whatever they tell you she is.
Sorry, but the GOP schtick they were spewing at the convention was far from truthful. So THAT didn’t tell us anything about her. EVERY credible news source acknowledged there were huge distortions between the speeches and reality.
In the words of a REAL WOMAN’S ROLE MODEL, “If you can’t take the heat…” I think you know the rest.

Posted by: Not tough enough | September 13, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm

Just got word from Iowa McCain supporters are rising up and taking that state back.
Go McCain

Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 13, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm

Is the UPI an unbiased source of information? Very unlikely. Look it up – even veteran Washington reporter Helen Thomas quit the day after it was sold to a media conglomerate owned by Reverend Sun Myung Moon.
You want to play with the big boys, Mrs. Palin? You want to earn my respect? Then don’t let the campaign make you out to be a victim every time something goes wrong. Let them know you can take care of yourself and do it.
We needed a tough interview because we don’t even know who this woman is and there’s less than two months to go.

Posted by: Ann | September 13, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm

Logic is using propaganda techniques to equate tough questions with sexist questions. Tough questions are not the same as sexist questions. Sexist questions refer to gender, other discriminating questions refer race, religion, etc. If the question refers to any of these things, it is discriminatory. We do not want these questions in a high stakes campaign embellished with negative voice tones and condescending facial expressions. They should not be asked at all of anyone, ever, especially in a public forum. The campaign is about qualifications to serve, not about every personal issue a person has. Personal issues tend to be brought up to destroy the competitor. Leave out the gender, race, and religious questions.

Posted by: Fyrestorme | September 13, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm

Biden and Hillary…all together now,
“Obama’s NOT ready to be president!”
End of story.

Posted by: grizzly bare | September 13, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm

Ann,
Give you proof of what? I volunteer and I am a pollster. I am driving to IA next weekend, we are taking that place back my dear. If you are so concerned get your butt out there and campaign. We have got Ohio already.

Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 13, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm

Fyrestorme – Did you say to send women to interview Palin? They sent McCain to be interviewed by the women of ‘The View’ and that didn’t work out so well. Don’t think Palin would fare any better.
Truth is that most women journalists (unless they’re working for Good Housekeeping or Redbook) would not agree with Mrs. Palin’s views on many of the issues. I think they’d be as tough on her as their male counterparts.
And yes, IMHO she deserves tough scrutiny before we are asked to elect her to the second highest office in the land.

Posted by: Ann | September 13, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm

It’s still going to be along road…nothing’s 100% for either candidate, to be honest.
The debates will play an important role this year.
What’d I’d like would be less mudslinging- now that McCain has started the volley, the election has become nastier and nastier. Oh well.

Posted by: Logic | September 13, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm

The GOP is top notch at lying and distorting information. Obama’s organization in Iowa is unreal and far superior to anything that McBush has. And Btw, putting Palin on the ticket was not “Country First” it was politics first and country second.
Obama will turn Iowa, Ohio, Colorado and New Mexico BLUE!!!!!!
Obama/Biden ’08

Posted by: McCain = BUSH | September 13, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm

We must get the word out to everyone to know who the real Obamas are, the more the people get to know them, the less they like what they see.
Take the latest example, Michelle Obama didn’t bother to show up to pay respect to the victims of 9/11. When people noticed, the Obama campaign lied about her being at home for the first week of school. A blatant LIE, since the day before she was campaigning for Barack in Cincinnati, Ohio at the National Baptist Convention, giving a speech blurring the distinction between Church and State in the name of racial and religious divisiveness.
What do you expect from her, she’s only proud of America IF people vote for her husband!

Posted by: Rob | September 13, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm

Ann – I’ll risk women interviewing Palin. McCain’s interview was McCain’s interview. Ask her tough questions! Please do. But not with sexist overtones. She will rise to the occasion as she certainly has so far. Your sexist references about women journalists just includes you in the basket of ignorance along with all the other sexists. Sorry you lowered yourself to that.

Posted by: Fyrestorme | September 13, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm

There are many storms churning ahead. Some may metamorphose, metaphorically, into hurricanes.
Heard Palin’s husband got subpoenaed for the Troopergate thing.
Another unpredictable factor…
Well Keith, since you are a pollster, perhaps you could enlighten me about one thing, do you guys call handphones? I’ve heard that most young people who make up Obama’s supporters don’t have land lines and may be under-represented in polls.

Posted by: Logic | September 13, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm

McCain has responded to Obama’s mudslinging and he will not initiate mudslinging on a new issue, but will only respond. That was clear from the beginning. He is a gentleman, not a condescending elitist like Obama.

Posted by: Fyrestorme | September 13, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm

The Obamazoids are running scared, desperate, pulling their hair!
Not Biden, he loves his hair plugs too much.

Posted by: Rob | September 13, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm

Paulin and Mcain are not ready to lead this nation the G.o.p is full of lies and deciet. \\her interview was a bust she,s actually dumb as a rock . She is not tough she was scared of the questions asked by charlie gibson and it showed . Shes a dumb broad who needs top go back to alaska and take care of her children . To those so call hilary supporters who bank to the otherside you are traitors and you must not be concern with the issues of this country. The gop is full of bull. If hilary had won the nomination i would still had voted for her in the general election not just because she,s a women and iam not voting for Obama just because he is black?white but because he has a plan that aligns with my values.

Posted by: timothy sanders | September 13, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm

Obama will turn Iowa, Ohio, Colorado and New Mexico BLUE!!!!!!
_______________________________________
ha ha ha ha
Yes We Can
NO You Won’t!!!!!
McCain/Palin 2008

Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 13, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm

John McCain is not afraid of good fight..Obama bring it on…

Posted by: AC | September 13, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm

Why is it when someone is tough on Palin they call it sexism. And when they’re tough on Obama, they call it racism. This nonsense has got to stop. Or is this how it’s going to be from now until election day. They are canidates, period.

Posted by: erin | September 13, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

We already have our McCain victory party planned. Hillary supporters for McCain!!!

Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 13, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm

Keith, so do you guys call handphones as pollsters? Or is it land lines only?

Posted by: Logic | September 13, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm

So Logical
A miracle, oh it was beautiful, magical.
And all the birds in the trees, well theyd be singing so happily,
when McCain wins!!!

Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 13, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm

I´m a bitter woman who live in a small town and cling to my religion. When Obama stated that, me and millions of american people felt insulted. If I´m not good enough for him, he´s not either good enough for me.
This man will never be my president. Go back to Illinois Obama.

Posted by: Amanda | September 13, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm

“WOMEN FOR McCAIN/PAULIN 2008″

Posted by: Fyrestorme | September 13, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm

Fyrestorm – I simply stated that female journalists might not treat her the same way you think they would. That’s lowering myself to being sexist? Good heavens.
What “sexist overtone” was in Gibson’s question about the Bush Doctrine? About whether or not we should put Georgia into NATO? Don’t tell me that peering over his glasses made Charlie sexist – he did the same thing during the Obama/Clinton debate.
I honestly want to know whether a woman no one heard of two weeks ago is capable of handling herself as our next vice president is lowering myself to being sexist? If she’s that capable, she should be able to handle herself.

Posted by: Ann | September 13, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm

“Hillary Clinton supporters for John McCain”

Posted by: Fyrestorme | September 13, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm

McCain = 10% Maverick and 90% with Bush. Is that really what this country needs?? lol
Bush has already destroyed this country. We don’t need McCain in office continuing Bush’s failed policies. McCain talks about the straight talk express, but lately all he does is lie, spin and distort the facts. That is not straight talk!!! That is called LYING to the American people.
Clinton: “No Way, No How, No McCain”
Obama/Biden ’08

Posted by: McCain = BUSH | September 13, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm

Heck John Mccain And Sarah Paulinstine should be impeached for outright blatantly lieing about their records. What goes their old pal bull and more bull.

Posted by: timothy sanders | September 13, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm

“Barack is one of the smartest people you will ever encounter who will deign to enter this messy thing called politics.”
The definition of deign is:
condescend: do something that one considers to be below one’s dignity

Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 13, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm

Fyrestorm wrote:
>McCain has responded to Obama’s >mudslinging and he will not initiate >mudslinging on a new issue, but will >only respond.
that statement is absolutely incredible. if mccain isn’t mudslinging, then why did he release an ad saying that obama supported sex ed in kindergarten? that and other ads haven been proven to be entirely false. have you read the newspaper this week? his campaign is under increasing criticism because so much of what comes out of the mccain camp is either flat-out lies or distortion.
yes, both sides in every campaign play loose with the facts and try to “spin” things to their advantage. obama’s done it, of course. but mccain has taken it to a new low, lying with a straight face to the american public.
what’s sad is that according to a couple of articles today, the mccain campaign knows about this criticism but doesn’t care about the fact that they’re being dishonest. they just don’t care.
here’s one article:
http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=59999227-18FE-70B2-A843A61B46DCD096

Posted by: Caroline | September 13, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm

To the backsliding hilary clinton supporters who has joined john mccain, Emotions don,t win elections and the polls are not reflected of the country at as a whole. Stop your whining and wake up and join the party that respects you and not the party that will use you and lie to your children and spit you out when they are finish with you. They are known for that

Posted by: timothy sanders | September 13, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm

Palin has touched a raw nerve and once again Obama’s response seems weak. Whenever he or his staff says “Spare us the phony (outrrage, sentiment, fill in the blank)” it just sounds so weak and, well, sissyfied. “Spare me”. Who talks like that?
Did you notice there was no mention of what a great pick Biden is or how Obama is 100% confident in his pick or anything like that? Once again, Obama is caught flat-footed.

Posted by: Woody | September 13, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm

TO: WOODY your party is not a 100% behind palin what it is mCcain was doing so poorly even among his so call on base of supporters he had to do a hail mary but guess what woody it will be temporary . She was a bust on the interview and i mean a bust only fools follow shallow people.

Posted by: timothy sanders | September 13, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm

Hillary Supporters are helping McCain.
The DNC made a huge mistake.

Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 13, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm

I am a woman, registered Republican, and see that Sarah Palin has made a comment that is very unbecoming. But that is her position. As a woman I have been disappointed. She has lied, lied, lied, and continues to lie!! I see news media, fact check, analysts, have all verified lies. McCain and Palin continue the lies. McCain lies, lies, lies, lies. I am sorry to use such strong language. But these two will not admit they are lying even when proven they are lying. THEIR HAVE BEEN
EXPOSED!!! GO CHECK!!!
Ask her about her legislative ethics investigation against her as governor. This is going on now. Presently she is attempting to with hold documents and emails under “executive privilege.” We all know this legal maneuver is to keep possible damaging information away from legislature. Two sides are fighting. Sarah has hired her own defense attorney for her and her administration. Now Alaska is paying for two sides to investigate?? They are attempting to take away from bipartisan judiciary and legislative branches of government. The want the ethic board WHICH SHE APPROVES OF APPOINTMENT TO HANDLE INVESTIGATION. THIS APPOINTMENT BASED CRITERIA FRO JOB – ETHICS BOARD DEFINITELY EXHIBITS SOME QUESTIONS RE: BIAS FOR SARAH PALIN! PERIOD!
We all know of FBI investigation going on up in Alaska – 11 Republican public officials indicted + others to date since 2004. Sarah Palin is not doing this FBI investigation. Alaska government is not doing – Alaska government is who is under investigation. FBI is doing all the investigation. FBI has cleaned up Alaska Government to date. FBI is still there!

Posted by: Sharonklim | September 13, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm

McCain=Bush: And Btw, putting Biden on the ticket was not “Country First” it was “Obama’s ego first.” He couldn’t bear the thought of sharing the spotlight with Clinton, even if he needed her to win the White House. Hubris, arrogance–not qualities I want in my leaders.

Posted by: DuskyDakota | September 13, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm

even if obama had picked hillary. mccain still could of picked palin, and would of have more of a REASON to. for starters, palin energized the GOP base…and that had nothing to do with hillary. 2nd, the GOP would of been energized by the hillary pick anyway, because of how much they detest her. 3rd, mccain’s campaign knew they were in the opposite ends of making history nad HAD to find someone to offset that. 4th, with so much baggage the clintons have and how undisciplined her team is…they’re never going to be cooperative with obama’s and be a bigger distraction. the palin factor would of blown up bigger than it has already.

Posted by: gluv | September 13, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm

gluv: do you honestly think Biden was a better pick? By picking him, Obama chose to alienate 50% of Democrats (or at least SOME percentage of that). It was plain stupid and stupid people should not lead our country.

Posted by: DuskyDakota | September 13, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm

We are the ones the DNC wasn’t expecting! PUMA08

Posted by: MS | September 13, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm

Michelle Obama why did you dismiss the memory of the 9/11 victims and not attend the memorial? Why Michelle why?

Posted by: NYer | September 13, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm

timothy sanders,
Thanks for proving my point about Palin touching a nerve. If Obama selected Hillary this thing would be over and you know it. Instead he chose a political hack with a son who’s a professional lobbyist. Take a deep breath and try to actually put a few sentences together.

Posted by: Woody | September 13, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm

Deb, you can’t hold anyone accountable for anything they say in captivity. This is why torture doesn’t work (aside from the fact that it is morally wrong).
However, think about this: could you imagine the situation reversed? How do you think that Americans would react to a pilot who was bombing their homes and workplaces, killing innocent men, women and children? Would we have pulled them from certain death and given them medical care?
Something to think about.

Posted by: Flash Override | September 13, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

Greenspan: American Can’t Afford McCain’s Tax Plan

Posted by: Deb | September 13, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

Deb,
Do you realize you just posted John McCain’s confession that was obtained after torture? McCain was offered early release once the Vietnamese learned who his father was. McCain refused to be part of their propaganda ploy. After McCain refused to go home before others in order of shoot down, he was tortured like never before and eventually cracked. This is not in dispute.
Do you take joy in the fact that he was broken by torture? You either have no shame, or no clue. Which is it?

Posted by: Woody | September 13, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm

Flash Override
John McCain told the same story up until 1980 when he became the hero POW.
Go to your libary and look at old newpapers articles on John McCain you will be shocked!
Its such a load its crazy!

Posted by: Deb | September 13, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm

Deb is a troubled individual.

Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 13, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm

Woody
Both his comanding officers while he was a POW have come out and said no POW were tortured at the camp they were at and that McCain is lying..
McCain was treated well because of his dad.. John McCain gave up information that led to the death of his fellow service men..He even gave the location of America rescue ships.
Check your history not mccains book or PR.

Posted by: Deb | September 13, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm

Palin: “The federal budget, in its various manifestations, is incredibly important to us, and congressional earmarks are one aspect of this relationship.”
Palin: Loved Earmarks, before she ‘hated’ them.
That’s why she also supported Stevens as Senator for Alaska. Stevens brought home the bacon for Alaska. Stevens – with a couple of other Republicans – is a wellknown and unashamed lover of pork-barrel-spending. McCain stood aside – posturing – when Stevens was raking in billions for Alaska, but he failed and was unable to reign in Stevens. Palin even supported him.
McCain, clean up your own party first, that would show the country that you are a true leader: true leaders don’t have just nice sounding slogans, they accomplish things. You failed in doing that, how on earth do you think you or Palin are qualified to change Congress? Washington? Or the Country?
When McCain’s own party controlled Congress, earmark-spending skyrocketed. When Dems controlled Congress, earmark spending finally went down with 23%.

Posted by: Polderboy | September 13, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm

My point is not that McCain was a war criminal, that is an established fact. You are giving him too much credit if you think he fully understands and takes responsibility for his actions in Vietnam.
My point is that the confession came during his captivity , and that is wrong. McCain is said to have admitted that he was a war criminal since then, in an interview on the TV program “60 minutes”. In fact, McCain was saying that that was what he said in his confession.
It would be nice to have a President who understood the full ramifications of the fact that America killed 3 million Vietnamese in an illegal war of agression, but unfortunately McCain is not that man.

Posted by: Flash Override | September 13, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm

Polderboy
The truth is the truth!
He wasnt tortured his arms and leg were broke when he punched out of the jet he said so in his DOD briefing on his return!

Posted by: Deb | September 13, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm

TO: WOODY your party is not a 100% behind palin what it is mCcain was doing so poorly even among his so call on base of supporters he had to do a hail mary but guess what woody it will be temporary . She was a bust on the interview and i mean a bust only fools follow shallow people.

Posted by: timothy sanders | September 13, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm

Obama graduated Magna cum laude from Harvard. That means that we *know* he was in the top 20% of his class. Since he did not graduate Summa cum laude, we know he was below the top 5% in his class.
Mind you, magna cum laude is still high honors. Asking for his grades is sort of ridiculous. We know it was so far ahead of what McCain got (bottom 5% of his class), that it wold be like picking on a child.
I urge you not to go there if you don’t want either of your candidates to look like complete dolts by comparison.

Posted by: johnTX | September 13, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm

wow, there are obama supporters here dismissing McCain’s service, and the pain he went through for our country….hmm…obama sure attracts alot of really hateful people….
obama supporters also seem to hate women of any power (democratic Hillary and republican Palin),
they also seem to lack shame, and (Rhodes) and just in general ———- really full of HATE…

Posted by: john212 | September 13, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm

to those people who believe that obama disenfranchise part of the democrat base . This is not true it was hilary clinton herself who polarized the election there are more of a diverse population to the democratic party than white women. I voted fro her husband who i believe was more of a uniting figure in politics than i,ve experience in my life time. So what about these people young people,black people,hispanic people, oriental people,indian people, white people or rather U.S. citizens. Hilary clinton choose this route she is the cause of the divide not Obama.

Posted by: timothy sanders | September 13, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm

The fact that there is no evidence that he was tortured, or the fact that there is no evidence that he said “thanks but no thanks” to early release does not matter. We don’t know if he was tortured or not. Its the fact that he was a POW at all that makes his “confession” suspect.
Sampley points out that McCain gave interviews to foreign press over tea and biscuits while a prisoner, but that has no bearing on the issue. True, many US soldiers were prosecuted for a lot less after they were released from North Korean prisons, but again, that has no bearing. That was wrong to prosecute them as collaborators.
You just cannot hold someone responsible for what they did or didn’t do in captivity. Any military organization that depends on its forces not getting captured has much bigger problems. The North Vietnamese told their people to sing like a bird to avoid torture. They organized their forces in such a way as to make the information gained worthless or at least minimally damaging.

Posted by: Flash Override | September 13, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm

Johntx,
Firstly I think he has not released his undergraduate grades from Columbia. He did not attend law school straight away. He skipped time, which is usually an indication that your grades are not so great.
Also law school is graduate school. No one can have below a C in graduate school and law school is even stricter. I went to Yale for my Phd. and Dartmouth for undergrad, anyone in ivy league knows that Magna cum laude from Harvard, Yale, Princeton or any other is considered sub par.
I laugh at you people bringing up education and many of you never went to graduate school. When people ask for his grades they mean his Columbia undergraduate grades, which I suspect are terrible. Columbia is not one of the better Ivy’s and has lower standards.

Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 13, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm

Wow Mccain supporters seem to embrace a culture of lies and more lies and more lies and deciet. Wow I am an american also what makes their lies so right. Just because he picked palinstine.

Posted by: timothy sanders | September 13, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm

I’m sure Obama will release his GPA from Columbia when Palin and McCain release theirs (read: probably never).

Posted by: johnTX | September 13, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm

So what about life experiences it should count . You just want to lower the bar for Mrs Palinstine. Go figure phony republican party . decietful and straight lieing in americas face just to win only to lose . He doesn,t have to attack paulinstine but i can. Mccain and Mrs Palinstine are not the leaders this country needs the world knows it and when are you gonna know dummy.

Posted by: timothy sanders | September 13, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm

This lady is a liar and her fifteen minutes are over. She should go back to her igloo.

Posted by: gopisnuts | September 13, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm

Re: “He did not attend law school straight away. He skipped time, which is usually an indication that your grades are not so great.”
That’s not true. Lots of people work before they go to graduate school. For some programs, especially MBAs, work experience is required. DUH!

Posted by: gopisnuts | September 13, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm

Since his return from Hanoi, McCain has …
~Ignored pleas of POW/MIA Family Members for his political influence in the overall POW/MIA Issue as well as with their individual cases
~Verbally abused POW/MIA Family Members in public and private
~Attempted to negatively influence those who testified before the 1992 Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs
~Diminished legislation that gave oversight and protection to the families
~Dismantled protection to any future servicemen that go missing.

Posted by: Deb | September 13, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm

Wow, I finally am seeing the real Obama. Now ha he’s down in the polls he is sounding like an angry black man on the campaign trail. Why such hatred in his voice?

Posted by: Pat | September 13, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm

A Guy Named Keith
Thats what Palin said! Look it up !
Just as she said :
“The war in Iraq is god will..god work”
Read more learn more!

Posted by: Deb | September 13, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm

McCain takes direction from the Palinoconservatives.

Posted by: Mike | September 13, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm

Mike
If Palins and Mccain win this election the trooper will need to apply for political asylum somewhere.

Posted by: Deb | September 13, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm

New internal e-mails say Obama is having a meltdown over Palin and HAS expressed regret. I love it!

Posted by: Connie | September 13, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm

Mike
I heard McCain is the missing link !

Posted by: Deb | September 13, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm

Homo Sapiens is the missing link.
Do you think an alien visiting Earth would be able to understand a concept as primitive as nationalism?

Posted by: Flash Override | September 13, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm

I hope they do bring up his POW stuff then it will all come out – BRING IT ON usvet!

Posted by: Deb | September 13, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm

UsVet, that is good news. I am working on Iowa and Ohio is in the bag.

Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 13, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm

Concerned, I don’t think that quote says what you think it does.

Posted by: Indigo Montoya | September 13, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm

Sarah Palin did not visit troops in Iraq, a spokesperson for the Republican VP nominee confirmed Saturday, as new details emerged about the extent of the Alaska governor’s foreign travel.
In July of last year, Palin left North America for the first time to visit Alaskan troops stationed in Kuwait. Palin officials originally said her itinerary included U.S. military installations or outposts in Germany and Kuwait, and that she had visited Ireland. An Alaska spokeswoman for Palin had said Iraq was also one of the stops on that trip.
The Boston Globe reported Saturday that Palin visited the Iraqi side of a border crossing — but never journeyed past the checkpoint.
Earlier: McCain defends Palin’s experience level
Earlier, campaign aides confirmed reports that Palin’s time in Ireland on that trip had actually been a re-fueling stop.
The Obama camp – which has increasingly accused the McCain campaign of deliberately lying in ads and on the stump – was quick to highlight to that story, along with a news report that explored whether the McCain campaign have been sending out wildly inflated crowd estimates.
The McCain team has twice pointed to law enforcement as the source for those estimates – but the same officials denied to Bloomberg News that they had provided the numbers cited by the Republican nominee’s campaign.
“The McCain campaign said Governor Palin opposed the Bridge to Nowhere, but now we know she supported it,” said Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor in a statement. “They said she didn’t seek earmarks, but now we know she hired a lobbyist to get millions in pork for her town and her state. They said she visited Iraq, but today we learned that she only stopped at the border. Americans are starting to wonder, is there anything the McCain campaign isn’t lying about?”
A Palin spokesperson also confirmed Saturday that the governor had visited Mexico on a personal vacation trip. She has also visited Canada.

Posted by: Deb | September 13, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm

270 electoral votes needed to win.
Obama 273
McCain 265

Posted by: anon | September 13, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm

HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN EVEN BEFORE HE CHOSE GOV. PALIN….BUT THAT JUST MAKES IT SWEETER.
MAVERICKS, REFORMERS, COUNTRY FIRST McCAIN/PALIN TICKET.
I’m not waiting another 24 years (Ferraro) to see a women take part in leadership of this great country. Palin gets the people…not corrupt Washington insider….has Excecutive experience unlike the top of their ticket!

Posted by: Debra | September 13, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm

McCain/Palin 227
Obama/Biden 217
94 Toss Up
Now what Anon also failed to put in that post was that yesterday the tally was Obama 217, McCain 216. It looks like McCain is the one who is gaining.

Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 13, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm

Obama failed his first executive decision because of pride and immaturity – not good qualifications in a leader.
Had Hillary been the nominee, she would have had the maturity and wisdom to choose Obama as her running mate – and had she not wanted to do so, the DNC would have insisted.
Instead the DNC brushed aside the will of 18 million voters – half those who voted Democrat – and didn’t insist Obama choose Biden.
The DNC obviously doesn’t respect the will of the people, Hillary, or women (whom we have been told by Obama will “get over it”).
Well the DNC are the ones who can get over it when we vote in droves for McCain in November.

Posted by: marylou | September 13, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm

Oops! Didn’t insist Obama choose Hillary.

Posted by: marylou | September 13, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm

The DNC is paying dearly for their lack of judgment.

Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 13, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm

Obama is a loser. Hillary is a winner. The DNC made a mistake.

Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 13, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm

Keith has a point. Only about 5% of the population is saying that they will vote against Obama because of his race.

Posted by: Mike | September 13, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm

Most people are not voting Obama because of his race, but because of radical left associations and lack of experience and judgement….plus he gave Hillary the shaft.
HILL SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN/PALIN

Posted by: Debra | September 13, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm

Keith, you’re the one who brought it up. Why start whining about it?

Posted by: Mike | September 13, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm

Sarah Palin is putting her opposition to stem cell research on the back burner for the sake of the Republican ticket.
John McCain’s campaign released a radio ad Friday that calls he and Palin “mavericks” who will, if elected, back stem cell research “to help free families from the fear and devastation of illness.”
“Medical breakthroughs to help you get better, faster,” says the radio ad, which according to the campaign is running in key battleground states. “Change is coming. McCain, Palin and congressional allies. The leadership and experience to really change Washington and improve your health.”
McCain and his campaign have said the senator supports research that uses stem cells, including the embyronic variety. But Palin does not.

Posted by: Deb | September 13, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm

Deb, I guess that either McCain was lying when he told the fundamentalists that he believed that life begins at conception. Either that, or he’s too stupid to be President.

Posted by: Mike | September 13, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm

New Gallup Poll is out…. McCain is losing momentum.
Obama is gaining and will over take him next week.
Obama/Biden ’08

Posted by: McCain = BUSH | September 13, 2008, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm

RealClearPolitics has the Electoral (no toss ups) at Obama 273 – McCain 265 because Coloado just shifted from McCain to Obama.
Honestly, those numbers are so close and the swings are so close, this thing can’t be called one way or another. You might as well call it a tie.
The debates will be fun! I can’t wait. While I am for Obama, I’m hardly discounting the McCain team’s ability to debate.
I just wish we had two centrist politicians as opposed to two extremists. I mean, I’d be happier with Bush Sr. over McCain/Palin. Mind you, Palin is really what scares me… McCain I could live with, but I fear for his advanced age. I’m not super thrilled with the cronyism that will be the McCain administration, but I think we’d survive as a country.
Of course if McCain wins, Hillary is not going to have a cold chance in hell for 2012. She’ll be blamed for Obama losing this election. If Palin does really well, she’ll lose to Palin. If Palin does really poorly, women will be blamed and Hillary won’t have a shot.

Posted by: johnTX | September 13, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm

McCain/Palin 227
Obama/Biden 217
94 Toss Up
Now what Anon also failed to put in that post was that yesterday the tally was Obama 217, McCain 216. It looks like McCain is the one who is gaining.
________________________________________
@ keith,
whut you FAIL to mention is at that SAME website if you include the toss up states, it’s STILL 273 OBAMA 265 MCCAIN

Posted by: gluvnast | September 13, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm

“A guy named Keith” is right. Obama is old school Cook County politics. There’s no change here; no new anything. He’s as corrupt as all the rest of them. He had plenty of chances to change politics in Chicago and didn’t take one single one of them.

Posted by: midwestlady | September 13, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm

McCain Camp Last Week: Palin Went To Iraq… Yesterday: Palin Never Went To Iraq

Posted by: Deb | September 13, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm

I have friends in Houston, Midland, and Dallas, they are voting for McCain.
My buddy in Benbrook is campaigning for McCain too. Looks like Tarrant county is going McCain. I will speak to my cousin in Lampasas later

Posted by: Yes I Can | September 13, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm

I don’t include toss ups because they are just that. Toss Ups. Until they become solid I dont include them.

Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 13, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm

If anyone thinks that the pollsters can predict the outcome of the election this year, they are crazy.
Between so many new voters registered during Dem primary, and the youth vote having a dismal history of not showing up (but maybe they will this year) and a huge amount of Dem registrations during the primary due to Rush’s “operation chaos”, the women’s vote being jerked back and forth, Obama’s extreme associations, a truly incalculable grass roots movement in the urban areas on the side of Obama and a huge surge of the grass roots republican enthusiasm, any pollster that gets anything right this year will do so through pure dumb luck IMHO.
Looking at polls to discover who has what momentum or trouble and in what demographics is fine. But thinking you’re going to look at the polls as a predictor of who will ultimately win is ludicrous.
Spending any time fretting, glorifying or arguing who is going to win based upon the polls is insane and a complete waste of time.

Posted by: ChristianB | September 13, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm

@ midwestlady,
mccain had 26 YEARS to change washington, so whut’s your point?
the change obama speaks of is making that dramatic shift from the bush era. john mccain sold himself out and decided to coincide his ideas with bush, and lie about “reforming” without any examples of whut he intends to reform. all the major problems we americans are dealing with he’s lockstep with bush from iraq, to taxes, to education and so forth. i can understand that people fear “change” because change is venturing into the unknown, and it’s easier to stay complacent to the same because you know whut to expect. however, i cannot fathom WHY we americans want to continue to deal with the same struggling problems knowing that they’ll get worst by the day instead of taking that brave step to something new?
if you’re content with how bush is handling this nation for the past 7 to nearly 8 years, then vote for mccain. if you’re TIRED of the same B.S. day after day….then vote for obama and see if he’ll do better, if he doesn’t uphold his promise then we’ll hold him accountable…but if he’s AS disciplined as he is with his campaign in where there’s no signs of internal struggle (unlike hillary’s & mccain’s) 95% funded by the people, and CHANGE the way politicians will campaign in the future from public funding to using the internet…then look forward to a positive future.
there’s NO evidence that i have seen that obama, himself, done anything blantantly crooked…we can go all day about guilty by associations and whutnot, but obama haven’t don’t anything in where he’s being investigated on…even the rekzo thing been reviewed over and over and every single time whut obama done was completely legit & legal….
whereas, mccain is campaigning like bush/rove always campaign…whit’s so sickening is that he’s doing exactly whut bush done to HIM in 2000 witht he blatant lies and smears….the sex ed ad is the most disgusting ad i ever seen, for example….i don’t want a LEADER like that…i disapprove someone that claims to be “country 1st”, but trying to do whutever he can to win….the only people that WILL LOSE IS THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

Posted by: gluvnast | September 13, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm

factcheck.org (non-partisan and generally a fantastic resource on the half-truths given by both sides) just came back with a report on the “Alaska supplies 20% of US energy” quote.
Apparently it isn’t true. It isn’t even close to remotely true.
Alaska’s share of domestic energy production was 3.5 percent, according to the official figures kept by the U.S. Energy Information Administration.
And if by “supply” Palin meant all the energy consumed in the U.S., and not just produced here, then Alaska’s production accounted for only 2.4 percent.
The best number they could come up with is that Alaska produces 14% of the oil *produced* by the US, not supplied to. It accounts for 4.8% of the oil supplied to the US – a far cry from 20%.

Posted by: johnTX | September 13, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm

Regarding the importance of schools one attends, I would like to remind Obama supporters that Bush also went to the Ivy League schools and his grades were better than his opponents’. On the other hand, I thought Freshman Senator Obama was not running against Governor Palin. His opponent is Senator McCain, a graduate of the Naval Academy that is a better school than Columbia and Harvard combined.

Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 13, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm

Obama is the candidate of change! He has changed so much that I don’t even recognize him.

Posted by: Steve | September 13, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm

the shine is already wearing off Palin. there will be a crash and burn of the republican ticket. the debates will be a joke. McPalin will have nothing to say except to spew allegations and venom at Obama and Biden and will likely not make one substantive statement regarding the issues.

Posted by: Danny | September 13, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm

john you’re surpised? When DOESN’T the McCain campaign lie?

Posted by: Mike | September 13, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm

@ christian B
you’re 100% correct!
i personally think the best assessment is that it’s a TIE with mccain slightly losing the bit of the momentum due to the hype from the convention is coming down….
from the way it’s looking, the democrats panicked because of the predictable GOP bounce after the convention…the democrats REALLY want to win this and refuse to go out like 2004…so they panicked
i think obama was SMART when he done his speech proclaiming “ENOUGH IS ENOUGH”, it pretty much reassured some of them, hence the picking up in the gallup polls…
at the sametime, regardless of HOW most of these republicans try to deny it, they’re nervous too, because they don’t want palin to be exposed as a fraud and willing to do or say anything to her defense regardless of DAMNING evidence to suggest otherwise…they as well as mccain see this as their ONLY SHOT
so the perception game is where we’re at now. at one side, the dems are on the attack painting the mccain campaigning (which they have legit reasons behind it) as LIARS and DISHONORABLE…and on the otherside, the republicans are trying to paint obama supporters as SEXIST (even though they have some legit arguements as well)….the republicans have a slight advantage on this because they already painted the media as pro-obama so anything that the media do that are usually legitimate arguements or fair investigations towards a canidate…anything against palin, regardless of HOW FAIR the questioning is is regarded a smear….the risk they are taking is that they may be overplaying their hand…
for example, gibson was trying to be hard but hard…the bush doctrine question was an EASY question and palin’s 1st response “in whut way” was a legit reply…gibson GAVE HER an opening by asking whut do YOU feel is the bush doctrine? and that’s where she failed, because regardless of how the bush doctrine may have evolved, it was NEVER looked as “his world view”
and even with that he was trying to give her a way out all the way up to he have to define it “in his opinion” which he clearly stated it being his opinion whut it was….yet gibson gets blamed for this as well as most of the interview, forgetting EVERYTHING that had happened during the ABC DEBATE with hillary & obama…

Posted by: gluvnast | September 13, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm

Didn’t see any community organizers out during the hurricane dircting the city, organizing rescues, emergencies, relief efforts.
Only mayors.

Posted by: sally | September 13, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm

keith, give it up….
mccain graduated at the bottom of his class (and probably had influence in passing considering who his father was)
obama made history as being the 1st black president of the harvard review…
let it go

Posted by: gluvnast | September 13, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm

@ sally,
you KNOW who were the only people that aided the victims of katrina were….yup! COMMUNITY ORGANIZERS
it’s sorta odd that TRUE repiblicans pride themselves with community organizing rather than hoping for government to so-call bail them out…faith based organizations is a community organization…
haven’t you even WATCHED the last presidential forum?

Posted by: gluvnast | September 13, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm

midwestlady – I might agree that Obama is your standard pol, but I sure hope you buy the idea that McCain is all about change and beyond charges of corruption. Palin’s record, when scrutinized closely, doesn’t exactly show her as a reformer, either.

Posted by: Caroline | September 13, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm

In the interest of clarity, my last post should’ve read I hope you DON’T buy the idea that McCain is all about change.

Posted by: Caroline | September 13, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm

gluvnast
you get over it. Obama never published anything in that law review. I was only saying that the navel academy is a better school than Columbia or Harvard.

Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 13, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm

Sally – unless you were there, you can’t say with assurance that community organizers weren’t out and helping with the relief. In fact, even if you were there, you didn’t see everything and everyone, could you?
I live in a town the size of Wasilla and trust me, being mayor is not a hard job.

Posted by: Caroline | September 13, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm

Keith – Wow, I didn’t realize McCain went to the Belly Button (aka navel) Academy. Yeah, I’ve heard that a better school than Harvard.
I see you spelled it correctly in another post so I’m sure it was a typo like the kind we all make. Still, I had to comment on it cause it was just too good to pass up.

Posted by: Caroline | September 13, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm

jpt writes:
“I, too, wonder if Obama regrets not picking Clinton and perhaps I’m not alone.”

Posted by: Belle Starr | September 13, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm

Thanks Caroline for point out my typo hard to type and be on the phone with my wedding planning bridezilla sister at the same time. :-)

Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 13, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm

Course, BHO regrets not picking Hillary, but he will never be man enough to admit it! His motto is: Anyone but Hillary! That is why he is paying the price now.

Posted by: Beckie | September 13, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm

@ keith
the fact remains…obama graduated at the TOP of his class
mccain at the bottom….

Posted by: gluvnast | September 13, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm

Jake,
Please report on Sarah Palin’s legislative investigation as governor. This is going on now.
Americans need to know if Sarah Palin is innocent or guilty. Election is November 4th.
I have been watching this investigation since she was selected. I am disturbed she was going to be open, but now is not. She is not co-operating. But then damaging documents, audio tapes exist – all is due to her firing of Monegan Police Commissioner – may have been because her brother in-law was not fired. Illegal or inappropriate pressure may have been done to have officer Wooten fired by Sarah Palin and her administration. Maybe Trooper Wooten deserved. But Sarah Palin may not be taking the correct legally appropriate paths. Some damaging evidence already exists. Then all changed once she was selected as Vice President. Appears her own attorney is attempting cover- up. State now paying for two sides??? Roadblocks everywhere! John McCain sent his top lawyers up there.
I have researched and found there seems to be a pattern following Sarah Palin throughout her whole political career. I see some pattern of her disposing/firing anyone who disagrees with her, etc.
This is very important!! Americans have a right to know what is going on!!
Stay away from what her personally chosen close old childhood friends who were hired to be in her administration. Please get all opinions. She seems to get rid of people quite easily. Seems when personal issues exist- employees are fired because of these personal issues. Many bodies have been left in her path all throughout her whole political career. So she claims she gets rid of corrupt politicians?? I see FBI only is addressing Alaska Political Corruption. Alaska government is not doing an of investigation, Alaska Government is who is being investigated. So far 11 Republican elected officials indicted. No Democrats. One Democrat had FBI raid done on his office 2006, but no indictment so far.
There appears to be alot more going on up there. I have seen some agency/governmental documents and it does not appear good.

Posted by: Sharonklim | September 13, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm

picking hillary isn’t the answer, and would of been MORE of a problem. the picking palin energized the GOP base, regardless if hillary was picked for VP nominee or not. the GOP convention bounce still would of happened regardless of hillary being picked or not.
in fact the PALIN impact has nothing to do with hillary…in fact, most of the hillary women are offended by the pick because palin is POLAR opposite to hillary…the CNN polls even shows that more MEN are attracted (probably literally) to palin than women

Posted by: gluvnast | September 13, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm

WestCoastMessenger,
“Why isn’t Peolosi out hammering Palin. She’s the Speaker of the House, and highest ranking female office holder in the Democratic Party. Instead you give us Wasserman? Something is amiss. Seems like our own party leaders are backing away from a fight with Palin.”
Probably because democrat women know that there’s a higher purpose for women than simply being put on this earth for your amusement. No catfights and mudfights shall be forthcoming in public. Debates maybe.
Obama/Biden 08!

Posted by: Common Sense | September 13, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm

gluvnast,
The fact is that this election will be decided by the same group that decided last election: white women. They are traditionally the largest group of independent swing voters and this year they are swinging in a big way, from Obama to McCain.
This group explains the turnaround in Ohio and Florida and Virginia and the closing of the gap in Michigan. Once Michigan or Pennsylvania comes around it will be all over. It’s all about demographics. It’s always about demographics.

Posted by: Woody | September 13, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm

Gluv, dear, let’s confine our comparisons to apples to apples cases, shall we? You harp on Obama being the first black editor of the Harvard Law Review and contrast that with McCain’s low graduation rank from the Naval Academy. Well, we have no idea what sort of grades Obama had as an undergraduate, as he will not release them. His years at columbia are rather a mystery. And as you should surely know, the HLR position is one that is VOTED ON by the student body– that is, it is not based on academic skills necessarily but on political ones, which until the last few weeks I think most would have agreed that Obama surely has. He was elected to head up the law review and as the editor of the law review did not write a single article. And please don’t make the mistake of assuming that higher GPAs necessarily mean a great deal. After all, in an example which amuses me but probably infuriates you, GWBush was found to have had a higher GPA at Yale than John Kerry. And don’t bother telling me that it was because of his ‘connections’– neither one had a gpa to brag about, but kerry’s was even lower.

Posted by: moderate | September 13, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm

CommonSense, I would suggest a far less “noble” reason that Pelosi is not out attacking Sarah Palin– because it would surely backfire. Pelosi is not tremendously popular with the American public. Her stand on drilling and her general inability to deliver any major Democratic triumphs since becoming speaker do not signal that she would be an effective surrogate for the Obama campaign in trying to get traction with female voters.
Oh, and your statement regarding Pelosi that, “Probably because democrat women know that there’s a higher purpose for women than simply being put on this earth for your amusement. No catfights and mudfights shall be forthcoming in public” cracked me up. I recall the terribly catty way that she tried to push Hillary Clinton out of the race before the final primaries. Pelosi is not above striking out at other women for her own political purposes. And trust me, nothing that woman does is even remotely amusing.

Posted by: moderate | September 13, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm

@ woody….
i somewhut disagree. one poster said it best that it’s IMPOSSIBLE to guage how this election will turn because of all the tangibles whether positive for obama or negative for obama….there’s never been a situation LIKE this, EVER.
so, comparing it to 2004 is very unlikely. also, there’s no hardcore evidence that the white women voters are fleeing to mccain, like i said there’s a CNN poll that said that more white MEN are going towards mccain after the palin pick…then again there’s another poll that says the complete opposite.
there’s alot of X-factors to consider this time around…one is the black vote, which will be historic. another will be the youth vote which traditionally don’t vote, but if the primaries show any hint (during a time in where the youth hardly EVER pay attention to) then definitely it’s likely they’ll make a statement come november…there’s also the grassroots organization, something during obama’s time as a “community organizer” he had time to master getting people to vote…obama’s grassroots campaign is BEYOND ridiculous and the democratic new voter registration WILL be a factor regardless, and the republicans took note of that hence the fake absentee balloting from the mccain camp which they got caught in doing as well as the home forclosure threat tactic in michigan that was exposed.
also, you have bob barr you have to include that’s taking 3% of the vote and someone that ron paul is encouraging to lean towards.
there’s SO many tangibles about this general election that’s it’s impossible on whut the deciding factor is. the late great tim russert maybe RIGHT on this ending up to be a 269-269 electoral count.

Posted by: gluvnast | September 13, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm

@ moderate
i agree it’s apples and oranges. it’s somethnig that “keith” was trying to make an issue.
off-handily off the subject, i don’t see why the type of school he or she went to BE an issue. one thing that obama spoke on and i believe is true, is that our children, especially those of color should be encourage to go for puplic office regardless of whut college you went to or never went to college at all. at the sametime we should strive our children to be the best at anything they can do and college should be that neccessary step to achieve the best in life.
i’m originally from oklahoma, and we have this republican kid, literally still a teen, that’s mayor of muskogee right now. just starting college. so someone like palin i have NO issue with as how she became governor. the issue i have with her is not really at her at all, but to mccain as for picking her over more qualified republican women. i understand the mccain campaign needed a DRASTIC shock-pick and it worked, but i truely feel sorry for palin, because she’s forever knee-deep in this and i’m not sure she wants this type of attention from both sides. at one side, you see an all out attack on her, on the other you see them shelling her as if she’s a 3 year old and not an independent thinker. that’s the difference with her and hillary, with hillary…her SHADOW is still commanding this race.
one thing about obama is that he’s probably at his best whenever his back is against the wall, because he’s proven that throughout the primaries…form being 30 points behind in iowa and winning, from the rev. wright videos, to the bitter-gate, to the ABC debates, to the return of rev. wright, to the 3 AM ADS…and everytime people was saying “he’s finished” he cannot come back from that and end up pulling it off somehow. i mean even with this his back appears to be against the wall, yet he’s somehow still in it.
so who knows how it’s going to be

Posted by: gluvnast | September 13, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm

McCain would have been forced to pick Palin regardless of what the Dems did.

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 13, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm

Hmmm,
The convo here is pretty high-brow.
Can you people dumb it down a bit for the rest of us? I’m wearing my best plastic jumpsuit and I want to know where the pies are.

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 13, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm

Many of the news media behave as if they were sitting on a throne looking down upon those of us who may have far more education that they do and have have had many more experiences that they. As mother of five who supported an ill husband, sent five children to college and earned 3 degrees while taking care of my family, teaching Sunday School, attending Little League games, gymnastic meets, cooking for the family, and teaching school for 29 years simultaneously, I challenge the media gods to be able to multi-task in the way many women do. Sure Sarah Palin is qualified to be president. I believe our next president will be God’s will whether it is Obama or McCain. We will get the one we deserve.

Posted by: Mary K. Wyrick | September 14, 2008, 12:12 am 12:12 am

Mary,
Either way we will get the one that half of us deserve.

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 14, 2008, 12:17 am 12:17 am

Mary K – I agree with you on the media’s snobbery. Charles Gibson with is academic glasses came off as if he were some high achieving super human who knows what is right for America. And what has he ever done? He certainly has never produced anything of value nor was he ever in political office. I am a democrat, but I was appalled at his demeanor.

Posted by: disambiguates | September 14, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am

PALINS AN IDIOT SHE IS NO HILLARY CLINTON…
MCCAIN IS SEXIST AND IS A CLONE OF BUSH!
REPUBLICANS ARE CHANGE ? YEAH RIGHT GIVE ME A BREAK 8 YEARS THEY HAVE CONTROL THIS COUNTRY AND MADE IT A MESS!
KNOW THE WANT TO BE THE PARTY OF CHANGE!
WHAT A JOKE!
THE REPUBLICANS MUST THINK WE ARE ALL IDIOTS!
VOTE FOR TURTH VOTE FOR SOLUTIONS NOT LIES. VOTE DEM 2008

Posted by: Deb | September 14, 2008, 1:24 am 1:24 am

Okay,
Now back to our program.
Disambiguates,
There are two Charie Gibsons and while I’m not crazy about either of them I think the one who showed up took his job seriously. I think many who follow these things were expecting tea and cookies with that interview. So while no one is perfect I think he Gibson on the side of the fourth estate.
No one will ever again agree on what constitutes “unbiased” media. Once news departments became financially accountable to the shareholders, that high ground was lost forever. So in my view Gibson represents the first tentative steps at relocating a place where the mainstream media can claim some degree of impartiality without being used as a vehicle for propaganda.
I expect it to be a long road with a lot of unhappy campers along the way.

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 14, 2008, 1:34 am 1:34 am

I meant to say that I believe Gibson erred on the side of the fourth estate.

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 14, 2008, 1:35 am 1:35 am

Leonard Peltie i don’t care what your poll says,i just care about having a safe world. McCain is as dangerous as Osama Bin Laden. I say NO to violence whether in America, Afganistan or Iraq

Posted by: festygreat | September 14, 2008, 7:22 am 7:22 am

festy,
No argument there.

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 14, 2008, 7:32 am 7:32 am

No, thank YOU festygreat.
Can you provide the source of this article?

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 14, 2008, 8:08 am 8:08 am

Its a Nigerian Newspaper “The Nation”

Posted by: festygreat | September 14, 2008, 8:11 am 8:11 am

Can that article get a wider circulation, I will be glad that majority of Americans read this. As a Nigerian who lean towards American global leadership, it will be so painful to have as an elected leader of great Nation someone who would make the world less safer than Bush is leaving it. Thats my fear about John McCain

Posted by: festygreat | September 14, 2008, 8:15 am 8:15 am

Thanks,
That’s both interesting and funny.
We have a publication of the same name and everyone would assume that it came from there.
Well written and an excellent, impartial analysis that might get through some of the chatter, but some will discount it without a read I am sorry to say.
Thanks Again festygreat.

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 14, 2008, 8:17 am 8:17 am

Why would Obama regret not picking Hillary? Because she’s a woman? Are female politicians an interchangeable commodity? The question is foolishness underpinned by some degree of sexism in the unspoken assumptions. As long as the conversation is about sex, race, personality, etc, it isn’t about the issues and how the candidates’ policy proposals would impact working class and middle class Americans. McCain and Palin are seeking to distract you, and it’s working.

Posted by: Steve Collins | September 14, 2008, 8:25 am 8:25 am

Why does everyone forget how much negative baggage Hillary Clinton would have brought to the ticket? The Republicans have a thousand page dossier of information they would have used against her if she had been on the ticket in either position. Not to mention Bill’s sketchy financial dealings… She has escaped serious scrutiny, because she did not win the nomination. She has very high negatives, probably even more after the primary season…

Posted by: T | September 14, 2008, 8:27 am 8:27 am

T,
Forget Hillary unless she gets into this fight like it’s her own.
The thing to do is concentrate on NOW.
BTW, I agree completely and that is precisely how I decided on Obama.

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 14, 2008, 8:36 am 8:36 am

Leonard Peltier have you read the new york times report on palin, its tasteful and interesting to me

Posted by: festygreat | September 14, 2008, 8:54 am 8:54 am

gluvnast,
Nice talking to you. People can disagree without getting ugly about it and I enjoy engaging on that level.
I am curious about your statement that McCain overlooked other Republican women for the VP slot who would have been better picks than Palin. This is something I have thought about a lot, because I wanted all along for McCain to pick a female VP for strategic reasons. But when I looked at the possibilities, Palin kept topping my list, although I thought that she would turn down such an offer because of her new baby.
Here’s my take– the Republicans don’t have a strong bench of female contenders. Condi wants to head back to Stanford and is sincerely disinterested in elective office. Liddy Dole and Kay Bailey Hutchinson seemed older than the ideal, since McCain was looking for some youth. They are both also a bit too establishment for the purpose. I know KBH got a lot of buzz toward the end, but that was never going to fly, given the disdain she and McCain share for one another (witness her snippy, less-than-helpful comments in the early hours after the Palin pick was announced). Then there’s Carly Fiorini and Meg Whitman– fabulous businesswomen and I actually thought he might go in that direction. I do think, however, that Palin edges out these businesswomen in usefulness to the campaign.
So who did you have in mind as stronger Republican women?

Posted by: moderate | September 14, 2008, 9:37 am 9:37 am

Festygreat,
I’m sorry you are so concerned that McCain would make the world less safe. I cannot possible disagree with you more. As he said in his acceptance speech at the convention, and has said repeatedly in the past, having been intimately involved in war, having suffered and having witnessed suffering caused by war, McCain has a clear knowledge of what war means and why it must be avoided as the last option at all times. That is his philosophy and that is how he would govern. He would not rush to war, but if war became necessary, he would commit to it with sufficient resources to ensure quicker, more decisive victories than the slog we had in Iraq. In addition, McCain has spoken out against Guantanamo and the torture of prisoners. He would not feel the need to prove his toughness through the use of military force. He would concentrate on creating an efficient, well-equipped military and on working to make sure that military was used sparingly around the world. That’s the sort of balance I find reassuring and that strengthens my support of McCain as commander in chief. I’m sorry you do not share my confidence.

Posted by: moderate | September 14, 2008, 10:00 am 10:00 am

Moderate writes, “Well, we have no idea what sort of grades Obama had as an undergraduate, as he will not release them. His years at columbia are rather a mystery.”
================================
Are you kidding? Obama was only able to go to Columbia with SCHOLARSHIP money. You have to maintain at a minimum a “B” average to KEEP your scholarship in most cases. Knowing that FACT, please tell all of of us (who actually went to college) what so “mysterious” about that?
Better yet..Considering he had to use those same TRANSCRIPTS to get into Harvard Law School I think it is safe to say they were pretty exceptional, right? By the way…he graduated with honors.
Please…Don’t embarrass McCain by trying to compare him academically to Obama. There’s no contest.

Posted by: Dems | September 14, 2008, 10:09 am 10:09 am

Jake,
You are giving Sarah Palin a free ride on the legislative investigation against her in Alaska as Governor for over reaching her duties. The FBI has been investigation Alaska Republican Political Corruption since 2004. And Alaska government is not doing this. Only the FBI is conducting investigation. Alaska government are ones being investigated. FBI to date has indicted 11 Republican officials.
Jake, why is this not being addressed?? Americans have a right to know. Is it fair not to let Americans know when a candidate for Vice President is currently being investigated??
Whether we are Republican or Democrat everyone should know what is going on!!!

Posted by: Sharonklim | September 14, 2008, 10:10 am 10:10 am

Compare the questions Charlie asked Obama with the questions he asked Sarah.
And REMEMBER, Obama is the TPO of the ticket.
Fair??? No.
Obama interview:
How does it feel to break a glass ceiling?
How does it feel to “win”?
How does your family feel about your “winning” breaking a glass ceiling?
Who will be your VP?
Should you choose Hillary Clinton as VP?
Will you accept public finance?
What issues is your campaign about?
Will you visit Iraq?
Will you debate McCain at a town hall?
What did you think of your competitor’s [Clinton] speech?
Palin interview:
Do you have enough qualifications for the job you’re seeking? Specifically have you visited foreign countries and met foreign leaders?
Aren’t you conceited to be seeking this high level job?
Questions about foreign policy
-territorial integrity of Georgia
-allowing Georgia and Ukraine to be members of NATO
-NATO treaty
-Iranian nuclear threat
-what to do if Israel attacks Iran
-Al Qaeda motivations
-the Bush Doctrine
-attacking terrorists harbored by Pakistan
Is America fighting a holy war? [misquoted Palin]

Posted by: GOP Mom | September 14, 2008, 10:22 am 10:22 am

Palin’s critic of Obama is interesting in that we all know there is a problem in the Obama campaign. The air of inevitability has been lost – to say nothing of the fact Obama is behind in a lot of the polls and the electoral college map has tightened up.
Palin is the most charismatic person running. However Obama’s gaffes with his lipstick on a pig comment are not helping. The perception on Main Street is that the Obama campaign in in a tail spin. The commentators like Frank Rich are so stuck on attacking that they are missing this shift in the public perception.
Obama has to get it together and it is pretty clear that the media are not going to be much help this time around. Biased journalists like Charles Gibson and Wolfe Blitzer are infact hurting Obama and he has to do something to counteract that force.

Posted by: disambiguates | September 14, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am

Not only did Palin call Hillary
a whiner during the Dem primaries,
but she also showed more of her
nastiness by joining the chorus
of people who were urging Hillary
to drop out of the race.
Her new-found admiration for
Hillary is a ruse to attract
Dem Hillary supporters who she
thinks are patsies.

Posted by: anon | September 14, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am

The interview showed Palin
would be a calamity as Veep.
McCain as we all know would
be a calamity as POTUS.

Posted by: anon | September 14, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am

Now is the time to trade
in second-rate Biden for
first-rate Hillary.

Posted by: anon | September 14, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am

“Considering he had to use those same TRANSCRIPTS to get into Harvard Law School I think it is safe to say they were pretty exceptional, right?”

Posted by: Belle Starr | September 14, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am

anon sez:
Now is the time to trade
in second-rate Biden for
first-rate Hillary.
————————————
a Republican alternate reality where the country rallies around Hillary
Lord Haw Haw or Tokyo Rose – take your pick.

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 14, 2008, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm

I was watching an old interview between oreilly and Hillary Clinton, and comparing it to Obama’s interview.
You Dems really blew it. She is so much more intelligent and informed than Obama.
What were you guys thinking?

Posted by: JA | September 14, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm

I was watching an old interview between oreilly and Hillary Clinton, and comparing it to Obama’s interview.
You Dems really blew it. She is so much more intelligent and informed than Obama.
What were you guys thinking?

Posted by: JA | September 14, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm

Belle writes, “To ask is to answer: if the transcripts DID support The CHANGEling’s entree to Harvard Law, they’d be out there — right?”
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The question isn’t whether they are out there or not Belle. Those of us who have gone to college KNOW that in order for college transcripts to be released the “student” must approve the release. Now the question I have for you is this…..If someone graduates WITH HONORS why would you NEED to see them? Surely you realize we’re talking about Columbia (NY) and Harvard Law right?
Bell writes, “If the transcripts DIDN’T support it, the press might say more on the reports of special handling for Obama — and maybe for Axelrod’s other “change” candidates, Deval Patrick and Azevedo, who were at Harvard Law at the very same time …
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I’m sorry Belle but you’re allowing your personal bias to intefere with your logic. While you can “buy” your way into an Ivy league education (your current President) with having a less than stellar academic background, you can’t BUY the degree. Obama graduated with HONORS from Havard, taught at the University of Chicago.
Tell me something….At what point do you recognize ACHIEVEMENT? McCain graduated almost at the bottom of his class at Annapolis. If it had not been for the fact that his Grandfather was an Admiral he most likely would not have even been admitted. THAT is affirmative action at its finet. Palin attended 6 colleges in 5 years and walked away with a B.A. in Journalism.
At some point you have to be honest. As far as intelligence goes? The sum of McCain and Palin is LESS than Obama. It is what it is…..

Posted by: Dems | September 14, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm

With all due respect. Most Europeans I believe view Palin as symptomatic of the superficiality of US Politics. You are becoming the laughing stock of the worlds intelligentsia. It really is embarrassing to watch.

Posted by: Ed Austin | September 14, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm

Palin is nothing more than a face
Let’s look at her record…..
1) Notes thanks but no thanks for bridge to nowhere, truth flopped on support for bridge after media pressure from congress. She also kept the earmark money for the bridge and spent it on other pet projects in Alaska the truth is she never rebuffed congress (NBC 08/31/08,Anchorage Daily News 08/31/08, CBS 08/31/08, Reuters, CNN, CBS 09/03/08)
2) Not in Iraq as previously stated only at Kuwait-Iraq boarder…Didn’t have clearance to enter Iraq. (Boston Globe 09/13/08, CNN 09/13/08, NBC 09/14/08)
3)Against earmarks is not a true statement the truth is Alaska is the largest state per capita for the use of earmarks (LA Times 09/03/08, Washington Post 09/11/08)
4) Posable abuse of power (Troppergate) Used her position as governor to fire her ex brother in law due to bitter devorce with her sister. (CNN 09/11/08, NBC 09/03/08, Anchorage Daily News 09/05/08)
Palin may say the media is out to get her but the truth is she doesn’t tell the truth.

Posted by: Larry | September 14, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm

Dems,
I think Moderate tactfully brought up an important point. As someone who not only went to college but who holds a doctorate and teaches at one, I can tell you that scholarship students are not always brilliant people. Many get scholarships for a number of reasons other than academic excellence. Then lots of people hang onto scholarships despite less than great work. The simple fact that Obama went to Columbia with a scholarship does not prove he was a talented student. I am not arguing that he was not, simply that you should not jump to conclusions based on the limited evidence.
What some have suggested as the reason that he has not spoken of his undergraduate grades, even in his revealing memoirs, is that his grades were less than top-drawer. He does not want to be accused of getting into Harvard Law as an affirmative action pick. You ignore this very real possibility. You assume his grades must have been high because they led to his admission to Harvard grad. However it is equally likely the grades were average and he was chosen for graduate school for other reasons, including the need to increase minority admissions and his years after Columbia spent as a community organizer, the sort of life experience admissions officers eat up with a spoon.
Now do I sit back and wait to be labelled a racist for bringing up an alternative explanation? Hope not. Just pointing out that these things are often more complicated than they may appear. College admissions are not simply a matter of skimming off the smartest students from the earlier levels and advancing them. That’s a good thing, by the way. Being intellectually gifted is not the only criteria for success, or even the most important one. I am not saying Barry Obama is not very intelligent, but I am surrounded at my workplace by brilliant thinkers and am no slouch intellectually myself. It takes more than academic excellence alone to impress me.

Posted by: gettinmedieval | September 14, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm

Cronyism, secrecy, disregard for the Constitution, skeptical of science on global warming, extreme personal partisanship – sound familiar, hiring people who are less qualified solely on their fierce personal loyalty and friendship. Remember Bush’s greatest hits? “Brownie” at FEMA, Harriet Miers for Supreme Court, Alberto Gonzales as Atty General & the debacle in hiring at Justice, outing Valerie Plame to retaliate against her husband’s right of free speech & letting Scooter take the rap, the scientific “jury” is still out on global warming, the ENTIRE Interior Dept.
Well, Palin is Bush times 100.
Ethics problems aren’t always related to just bribes. It is also the abuse of power and disregard of the Constitutional separation of powers and of Church & State.

Posted by: Kate Mom of Twins | September 14, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm

to gettinmedieval:
FACT: Obama did not list his race on his application to Harvard. And as an attorney who actually went to law school, let me tell you that you can’t get into Harvard without a minimum GPA and LSAT score. They won’t even look at your application to SEE what race you are without those minimum requirements that are FAR higher than about 75% of law schools in the country. Getting into Harvard is REALLY hard. And their bar passage rate is 99% – the highest in the country, party because they only admit the best and brightest. And IN law school you are graded anonymously by NUMBER so professors can’t even take your race or your charming personality into account. He graduated Magna Cum Laude.
I don’t think you’re a racist, but I don’t think you’re thinking all that clearly either. We had 8 years of C-student governing. Look where it has gotten us. Personally, I’d like someone who can think and ponder and act wisely for a change, rather than someone who doesn’t blink but just acts. Now we have McCain (at the bottom of his class) and Palin (6 years to her degree & no transcripts from her ONLY higher education released). I think it’s time to let some of the people who got good grades do some governing. You want to take the risk that THIS time the lackluster students won’t fail. I say, we have too much to lose to risk that.

Posted by: Kate Mom of Twins | September 14, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm

Obama is the LIAR, that new ad he came out with “fundamental economy is strong”…….noticed he left the last part off of what McCain said, “but these are very, very difficult times”. How convienant Obama left that off. Thats` not exactly being honest and trustworthy on Obama`s case now is it? What a lying jerk! He has to lie and ride the shirt and skirt tails of others (Bill, Hillary, and 2 women govenors)to “try” to get votes to “try” to win the presidency! McCain and Palin can stand on their own feet, why can`t Obama stand on his own? Again and again,he just shows how weak, untrustworthy, and discreditable person he is. The truth comes out about him, over and over, more and more. He is weak and pathetic!

Posted by: trish | September 16, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm

It surprises me how people can tear down McCain and Palin; they have more intregity, morals, and values than some of you could ever have. And when did those qualities become a “bad thing”? Just another problem going on with this country today! Hillary and her supporters called “whiners”…..sounds like there is a plenty of Obama “whiners” out there. Well remember what was repeatly told to the Hillary supporters….”get over it!” BOO FREAKIN` WHO! Bunch of big babies! The truth hurts sometimes, you need to suck it up and “MOVE ON!”

Posted by: Trish | September 16, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm

THE DNC, DELEGATES, AND SUPERDELEGATES ARE TO BLAME FOR THIS MESS IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. I WILL NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA BECAUSE OF “PARTY UNITY”. I THINK THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE VOTE SHOULD BE DONE AWAY WITH COMPLETELY,…BECAUSE THEN “THE VOTE” WOULD BE STRICTLY FROM “WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES!” AND NOT FROM ANYONE ELSE. OUR VOTES NEED TO BE COUNTED AND MATTER! NOT LETTING “THOSE IN POWER” OVER-RIDING OUR VOTES. POPULAR VOTE SHOULD WIN YOU THE PRESIDENCY AND NOTHING ELSE….REGARDLESS WHO IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. THEN WE WOULD TRULY BE A FREE COUNTRY.

Posted by: Trish | September 16, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm

wouldn`t it have been nice to have been able to hear the conversation behind closed doors with Obama and Bill Clinton. lol. (well, here we are again. still can`t win it without us?) lol. hilarious! Bill and Hillary (and the 2 female governors helping Obama)…stay home, this isn`t your fight for the presidency, it is Obama`s. If he can`t win it on his own, then guess he shouldn`t be the one running for office. This is the message they are sending the public. And Why would I vote for a canidate that comes across SOOOOOO weak? I WOULDN`T…AND I WON`T.
GOOOOOO MCCAIN/PALIN! “GIVE US THEIR NAMES AND MAKE THEM FAMOUS!” (LOVIN` IT!)LOL. THAT IS AWESOME! I LOVE THIS REPUBLICAN PARTY!

Posted by: trish | September 16, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm

Palin need to get ojt for VP position.
Do they have ojt for VP?
Here is an idea for financial baliout.
The richest 400 Americans — that’s right, just four hundred people — own MORE than the bottom 150 million Americans combined. 400 rich Americans have got more stashed away than half the entire country! Their combined net worth is $1.6 trillion. During the eight years of the Bush Administration, their wealth has increased by nearly $700 billion — the same amount that they are now demanding we give to them for the “bailout.” Why don’t they just spend the money they made under Bush to bail themselves out? They’d still have nearly a trillion dollars left over to spread amongst themselves!
Of course, they are not going to do that — at least not voluntarily. George W. Bush was handed a $127 billion surplus when Bill Clinton left office. Because that money was OUR money and not his, he did what the rich prefer to do — spend it and never look back. Now we have a $9.5 trillion debt. Why on earth would we even think of giving these robber barons any more of our money?
I would like to propose my own bailout plan. My suggestions, listed below, are predicated on the singular and simple belief that the rich must pull themselves up by their own platinum bootstraps. Sorry, fellows, but you drilled it into our heads one too many times: There… is… no… free… lunch. And thank you for encouraging us to hate people on welfare! So, there will be no handouts from us to you. The Senate, tonight, is going to try to rush their version of a “bailout” bill to a vote. They must be stopped. We did it on Monday with the House, and we can do it again today with the Senate.
It is clear, though, that we cannot simply keep protesting without proposing exactly what it is we think Congress should do. So, after consulting with a number of people smarter than Phil Gramm, here is my proposal, now known as “Mike’s Rescue Plan.” It has 10 simple, straightforward points. They are:
1. APPOINT A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR TO CRIMINALLY INDICT ANYONE ON WALL STREET WHO KNOWINGLY CONTRIBUTED TO THIS COLLAPSE. Before any new money is expended, Congress must commit, by resolution, to criminally prosecute anyone who had anything to do with the attempted sacking of our economy. This means that anyone who committed insider trading, securities fraud or any action that helped bring about this collapse must go to jail. This Congress must call for a Special Prosecutor who will vigorously go after everyone who created the mess, and anyone else who attempts to scam the public in the future.
2. THE RICH MUST PAY FOR THEIR OWN BAILOUT. They may have to live in 5 houses instead of 7. They may have to drive 9 cars instead of 13. The chef for their mini-terriers may have to be reassigned. But there is no way in hell, after forcing family incomes to go down more than $2,000 dollars during the Bush years, that working people and the middle class are going to fork over one dime to underwrite the next yacht purchase.
If they truly need the $700 billion they say they need, well, here is an easy way they can raise it:
a) Every couple who makes over a million dollars a year and every single taxpayer who makes over $500,000 a year will pay a 10% surcharge tax for five years. (It’s the Senator Sanders plan. He’s like Colonel Sanders, only he’s out to fry the right chickens.) That means the rich will still be paying less income tax than when Carter was president. This will raise a total of $300 billion.
b) Like nearly every other democracy, charge a 0.25% tax on every stock transaction. This will raise more than $200 billion in a year.
c) Because every stockholder is a patriotic American, stockholders will forgo receiving a dividend check for one quarter and instead this money will go the treasury to help pay for the bailout.
d) 25% of major U.S. corporations currently pay NO federal income tax. Federal corporate tax revenues currently amount to 1.7% of the GDP compared to 5% in the 1950s. If we raise the corporate income tax back to the level of the 1950s, that gives us an extra $500 billion.
All of this combined should be enough to end the calamity. The rich will get to keep their mansions and their servants, and our United States government (“COUNTRY FIRST!”) will have a little leftover to repair some roads, bridges and schools.
3. BAIL OUT THE PEOPLE LOSING THEIR HOMES, NOT THE PEOPLE WHO WILL BUILD AN EIGHTH HOME. There are 1.3 million homes in foreclosure right now. That is what is at the heart of this problem. So instead of giving the money to the banks as a gift, pay down each of these mortgages by $100,000. Force the banks to renegotiate the mortgage so the homeowner can pay on its current value. To insure that this help does no go to speculators and those who have tried to make money by flipping houses, this bailout is only for people’s primary residence. And in return for the $100K paydown on the existing mortgage, the government gets to share in the holding of the mortgage so that it can get some of its money back. Thus, the total initial cost of fixing the mortgage crisis at its roots (instead of with the greedy lenders) is $150 billion, not $700 billion.
And let’s set the record straight. People who have defaulted on their mortgages are not “bad risks.” They are our fellow Americans, and all they wanted was what we all want and most of us still get: a home to call their own. But during the Bush years, millions of them lost the decent paying jobs they had. Six million fell into poverty. Seven million lost their health insurance. And every one of them saw their real wages go down by $2,000. Those who dare to look down on these Americans who got hit with one bad break after another should be ashamed. We are a better, stronger, safer and happier society when all of our citizens can afford to live in a home that they own.
4. IF YOUR BANK OR COMPANY GETS ANY OF OUR MONEY IN A “BAILOUT,” THEN WE OWN YOU. Sorry, that’s how it’s done. If the bank gives me money so I can buy a house, the bank “owns” that house until I pay it all back — with interest. Same deal for Wall Street. Whatever money you need to stay afloat, if our government considers you a safe risk — and necessary for the good of the country — then you can get a loan, but we will own you. If you default, we will sell you. This is how the Swedish government did it and it worked.
5. ALL REGULATIONS MUST BE RESTORED. THE REAGAN REVOLUTION IS DEAD. This catastrophe happened because we let the fox have the keys to the henhouse. In 1999, Phil Gramm authored a bill to remove all the regulations that governed Wall Street and our banking system. The bill passed and Clinton signed it. Here’s what Sen. Phil Gramm, McCain’s chief economic advisor, said at the bill signing:
“In the 1930s … it was believed that government was the answer. It was believed that stability and growth came from government overriding the functioning of free markets.
“We are here today to repeal [that] because we have learned that government is not the answer. We have learned that freedom and competition are the answers. We have learned that we promote economic growth and we promote stability by having competition and freedom.
“I am proud to be here because this is an important bill; it is a deregulatory bill. I believe that that is the wave of the future, and I am awfully proud to have been a part of making it a reality.”
This bill must be repealed. Bill Clinton can help by leading the effort for the repeal of the Gramm bill and the reinstating of even tougher regulations regarding our financial institutions. And when they’re done with that, they can restore the regulations for the airlines, the inspection of our food, the oil industry, OSHA, and every other entity that affects our daily lives. All oversight provisions for any “bailout” must have enforcement monies attached to them and criminal penalties for all offenders.
6. IF IT’S TOO BIG TO FAIL, THEN THAT MEANS IT’S TOO BIG TO EXIST. Allowing the creation of these mega-mergers and not enforcing the monopoly and anti-trust laws has allowed a number of financial institutions and corporations to become so large, the very thought of their collapse means an even bigger collapse across the entire economy. No one or two companies should have this kind of power. The so-called “economic Pearl Harbor” can’t happen when you have hundreds — thousands — of institutions where people have their money. When you have a dozen auto companies, if one goes belly-up, we don’t face a national disaster. If you have three separately-owned daily newspapers in your town, then one media company can’t call all the shots (I know… What am I thinking?! Who reads a paper anymore? Sure glad all those mergers and buyouts left us with a strong and free press!). Laws must be enacted to prevent companies from being so large and dominant that with one slingshot to the eye, the giant falls and dies. And no institution should be allowed to set up money schemes that no one can understand. If you can’t explain it in two sentences, you shouldn’t be taking anyone’s money.
7. NO EXECUTIVE SHOULD BE PAID MORE THAN 40 TIMES THEIR AVERAGE EMPLOYEE, AND NO EXECUTIVE SHOULD RECEIVE ANY KIND OF “PARACHUTE” OTHER THAN THE VERY GENEROUS SALARY HE OR SHE MADE WHILE WORKING FOR THE COMPANY. In 1980, the average American CEO made 45 times what their employees made. By 2003, they were making 254 times what their workers made. After 8 years of Bush, they now make over 400 times what their average employee makes. How this can happen at publicly held companies is beyond reason. In Britain, the average CEO makes 28 times what their average employee makes. In Japan, it’s only 17 times! The last I heard, the CEO of Toyota was living the high life in Tokyo. How does he do it on so little money? Seriously, this is an outrage. We have created the mess we’re in by letting the people at the top become bloated beyond belief with millions of dollars. This has to stop. Not only should no executive who receives help out of this mess profit from it, but any executive who was in charge of running his company into the ground should be fired before the company receives any help.
8. STRENGTHEN THE FDIC AND MAKE IT A MODEL FOR PROTECTING NOT ONLY PEOPLE’S SAVINGS, BUT ALSO THEIR PENSIONS AND THEIR HOMES. Obama was correct yesterday to propose expanding FDIC protection of people’s savings in their banks to $250,000. But this same sort of government insurance must be given to our nation’s pension funds. People should never have to worry about whether or not the money they’ve put away for their old age will be there. This will mean strict government oversight of companies who manage their employees’ funds — or perhaps it means that the companies will have to turn over those funds and their management to the government. People’s private retirement funds must also be protected, but perhaps it’s time to consider not having one’s retirement invested in the casino known as the stock market. Our government should have a solemn duty to guarantee that no one who grows old in this country has to worry about ending up destitute.
9. EVERYBODY NEEDS TO TAKE A DEEP BREATH, CALM DOWN, AND NOT LET FEAR RULE THE DAY. Turn off the TV! We are not in the Second Great Depression. The sky is not falling. Pundits and politicians are lying to us so fast and furious it’s hard not to be affected by all the fear mongering. Even I, yesterday, wrote to you and repeated what I heard on the news, that the Dow had the biggest one day drop in its history. Well, that’s true in terms of points, but its 7% drop came nowhere close to Black Monday in 1987 when the stock market in one day lost 23% of its value. In the ’80s, 3,000 banks closed, but America didn’t go out of business. These institutions have always had their ups and downs and eventually it works out. It has to, because the rich do not like their wealth being disrupted! They have a vested interest in calming things down and getting back into the Jacuzzi.
As crazy as things are right now, tens of thousands of people got a car loan this week. Thousands went to the bank and got a mortgage to buy a home. Students just back to college found banks more than happy to put them into hock for the next 15 years with a student loan. Life has gone on. Not a single person has lost any of their money if it’s in a bank or a treasury note or a CD. And the most amazing thing is that the American public hasn’t bought the scare campaign. The citizens didn’t blink, and instead told Congress to take that bailout and shove it. THAT was impressive. Why didn’t the population succumb to the fright-filled warnings from their president and his cronies? Well, you can only say ‘Saddam has da bomb’ so many times before the people realize you’re a lying sack of shite. After eight long years, the nation is worn out and simply can’t take it any longer.
10. CREATE A NATIONAL BANK, A “PEOPLE’S BANK.” If we really are itching to print up a trillion dollars, instead of giving it to a few rich people, why don’t we give it to ourselves? Now that we own Freddie and Fannie, why not set up a people’s bank? One that can provide low-interest loans for all sorts of people who want to own a home, start a small business, go to school, come up with the cure for cancer or create the next great invention. And now that we own AIG, the country’s largest insurance company, let’s take the next step and provide health insurance for everyone. Medicare for all. It will save us so much money in the long run. And we won’t be 12th on the life expectancy list. We’ll be able to have a longer life, enjoying our government-protected pension, and living to see the day when the corporate criminals who caused so much misery are let out of prison so that we can help reacclimate them to civilian life — a life with one nice home and a gas-free car that was invented with help from the People’s Bank.
Respectfully,
Texans

Posted by: Patricia | October 2, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm

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