By Julia Hoppock

Sep 2, 2008 3:07pm

Phil Gramm : McCain Supporters ‘Not Economically Illiterate’ and Not Whiners

Bloomberg News reports that at a Financial Services Roundtable event in Minneapolis today, former Sen. Phil Gramm, R-Texas, revisited the comments that got him into trouble in July.

"If you’re sitting here today, you’re not economically illiterate and you’re not a whiner, so I’m not worried about who you’re going to vote for,” Gramm said. 

Gramm resigned as a senior adviser to McCain after giving an interview to the Washington Times in which he said "You’ve heard of mental depression; this is a mental recession…We have sort of become a nation of whiners. You just hear this constant whining, complaining about a loss of competitiveness, America in decline…We’ve never been more dominant; we’ve never had more natural advantages than we have today…Misery sells newspapers. Thank God the economy is not as bad as you read in the newspaper every day."

The Obama campaign was quick to pounce — not surprisingly since Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, mentions Gramm’s comments in every speech.

"Today, the man who wrote John McCain’s economic plan further insulted struggling Americans by suggesting that if they are not attending the Republican Convention, they are not only whiners, but economically illiterate," said Obama’s cub spokesman Tommy Vietor. "From the campaign whose candidate has said that we’ve made ‘great progress’ economically under George Bush and believes that the fundamentals of our economy are ‘strong’, that’s pretty rich."

Interestingly, Gramm used the first-person plural when describing the campaign’s vetting of Gov. Sarah Palin.

"We went through a process of vetting all possible candidates,” he said. Asked his role in the campaign, he said, "I’m a supporter.”

– jpt

User Comments

New Poll shows that Palin is getting the Youth vote? Seems the Juno scenario helped, along with the fact that Young males find her attractive and interesting.

Posted by: Peter | September 2, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm

I knew it. Gramm is still working inside the campaign

Posted by: Willem van Oranje | September 2, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm

What an idiot. Graham needs to stay far away from his “whiners” comment.

Posted by: Mary | September 2, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm

“If you’re sitting here today, you’re not economically illiterate and you’re not a whiner, so I’m not worried about who you’re going to vote for,” Gramm said.”
Aaaah yes the continued ###### on the American working man.
Nice to see the old hits are still the favorite hits when it comes to McCain and the GOP.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm

Phil Gramm –the epitomy of a big mouth with no brains and a loser to boot. Boy that McCain can sure pick them cant he ??? First ” All windup and no fastball” Gramm and now the corrupt little Prom Queen who obviously has alot to hide.

Posted by: Dan A | September 2, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm

“New Poll shows that Palin is getting the Youth vote? Seems the Juno scenario helped, along with the fact that Young males find her attractive and interesting.”
Most polls are showing her with 60% never heard of. Got a link or a poll name?

Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm

Obama made many Americans desperate.
Putting in their minds from the first day of his campaign telling them how bad they had it. (before the economy declining)
Then continues with each speech, telling them so much they believed.
So the slowed spending, as they slowed spending, the economy declined.
He gave them a joint enemy and who to blame.
He offered himself as the only one who could change government.
Obama plan to take you down, to feeling helpless and desperate, then to win you over with hope and something to believe in. Then Bring you up that He will do it. He is the only one who can.
Playing the minds of the people, playig their hearts, using their lives against them to win.
He did say he would do anything to win.
I think he did the most inhumane thing any one could. Abusing the peoples minds.

Posted by: seah | September 2, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm

Phil Gramm is an evil disgusting person. He is arrogant, selfish, a lover of money and ignoble in every respect.

Posted by: eyeonyou | September 2, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm

LOL, now Obama is so moving to audiences that he has singlehandedly destroyed the economy!
The insanity of the right wing knows no bounds.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm

What can I say about Ole Phil that hasn’t been said all ready? I just want this jerk to go far gar away and McCains traveling circus needs to fold up the big tent after this week. Watching the repubs slap each other on the backs is pretty sickening.

Posted by: The GOP sucks | September 2, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm

Next time your pumping gas think to yourself this is only in my mind, this is only in my mind.

Posted by: Saudi Prince | September 2, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm

Strange assumption that people who are “economically literate” vote for perpetuate tax cuts despite the deficits we face.
I think people who are “economically literate” are beginning to seriously question the underpinnings of the conservative economic platform.

Posted by: BBpd | September 2, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm

Ben Smith: I wrote the other day that a Palin spokeswoman said trips to Germany, Kuwait and Ireland made up her foreign travel.
Two details worth clarifying:
The Ireland trip was a refueling stop on her trip to military installations in Germany and Kuwait, spokeswoman Maria Comella said.
And she’s also visited Canada, another spokesman, Ben Porritt, says

Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm

There are many hard working Americans who consider themselves Republicans. And there are a lot of us Independents who are watching the Democrats squirm as they watch another race go 50/50. Obama is not all that to all people, but you can’t tell tham that. The DNC made a huge mistake. Maybe they will learn their lesson this time.

Posted by: Kitty | September 2, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm

Of course! Gramm never left the campaign. John McCain is a liar. John McCain is a liar. John McCain is a liar.

Posted by: Patricia | September 2, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm

I guess if McCain could hire someone who smeared him back in 2000 to work for his current campaign, there is no reason why he would not forgive a friend who said that Americans were whiners.
When a man of principle becomes a man of ambitions, everything can happen.
Just to finish with a touch of humor. Apparently, Ms Palin showed earlier interest in design. She wanted to open a boutique. She decided she would call it “Rouge Cou” which supposedly means “Redneck”.
I guess Obama was right: the only thing Americans can say in french is “Merci beaucoup”. If you can’t translate a simple english word in french, don’t worry, you might still become vice president of the USA.

Posted by: Lance D. | September 2, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm

In December 2000 Gramm helped engineer the approval of a bill that exempted energy commodity trading from government regulation and public disclosure. NUFF SAID!
Ladies & Gentlemen, this is John McCain’s economic advisor, former senator Phil Gramm. He thinks that you are a whiner and illiterate if you have any problems in today’s economy. Sure, we could blame him for high gas prices, but isn’t it nice that he helped corporations and oil tycoons got filthy rich? Plus, I heard that the economy was Obamas fault, anyway.
McCain / Palin 08
“Quit Whining, America!”

Posted by: Gramm = Corporatist | September 2, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm

Mark Whitaker on MSNBC just disclosed that according to McCain’s own timeline that the Palin children were flown into Ohio under the pretense that they would be joining their parents for an anniversary celebration and were not told about the VP announcement.
Secrecy and lies….I give you the John McCain philosophy.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm

Those who used for credit cards for frivolous purchases and then could not pay the monthly bill are whiners. Those who purchased homes without reading the fine print of future increases in monthly payments are whiners. Those who think it is more important to purchase their latest hip-hop CD than pay for gas are whiners. Those who think Uncle Sam should bail them out of their own stupid mistakes are whiners.
Yes, there are lots of whiners around and most are Obama supporters. These people are socialist minded.

Posted by: Mary | September 2, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm

Ruh roh…..Palin’s husband Todd was a registered member of the AIP until 2002
This afternoon, the director of Division of Elections in Alaska, Gail Fenumiai, told TPMmuckraker that Todd Palin registered in October 1995 to the Alaska Independence Party, a radical group that advocates for Alaskan secession from the United States.
Besides a short period of a few months in 2000 when he changed his registration to undeclared, Todd Palin remained a registered member of AIP until July 2002 when he registered again as an undeclared voter.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm

Obama made many Americans desperate.
Putting in their minds from the first day of his campaign telling them how bad they had it. (before the economy declining)
Then continues with each speech, telling them so much they believed.
So the slowed spending, as they slowed spending, the economy declined.
………………………………..
I can’t believe I’m actually reading this. LOL! Who in their right mind could believe such none sense. I guess you haven’t went to the grocery story lately and checked the prices or pumped gas, or payed any attention to the number of forclosures, or declining car sales or the unemployment rate and how many people have had to turn to food stamps to survive. People who are considered middle class.

Posted by: Jack | September 2, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm

Gramm & Mary are channeling Kent Brockman.
“And at the cost of being unpopular, I point the finger squarely at you America!”
You are going to own your failures and rhetoric Republicans…own it.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm

New Poll shows that Palin is getting the Youth vote? Seems the Juno scenario helped, along with the fact that Young males find her attractive and interesting.
…………………………………
LOL! Young males find her attrictive. I’m a 23 yr old college student and none of my buddies are drooling over Palin. LOL! She’s like our moms. If a young male finds a soccer mom attractive or interesting then that just means he can’t get a girl his own age. Nothing against soccer moms.

Posted by: Jack | September 2, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm

I guess if McCain could hire someone who smeared him back in 2000 to work for his current campaign, there is no reason why he would not forgive a friend who said that Americans were whiners.
When a man of principle becomes a man of ambitions, anything can happen.
Just to finish with a touch of humor. Apparently, Ms Palin showed earlier interest in design. She wanted to open a boutique. She decided she would call it “Rouge Cou” which supposedly means “Redneck”.
I guess Obama was right: the only thing Americans can say in french is “Merci beaucoup”. If you can’t translate a simple english word in french, don’t worry, you might still become vice president of the USA.

Posted by: Lance D. | September 2, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm

This idiot is more proof that McCain has terrible judgment and puts politics first and country LAST

Posted by: Mccain-Politics first, Country last | September 2, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm

Peter – not sure what polls you are reading? National polls are averaging an 8 pt lead….do you realize a 4-5 pt lead is a LANDSLIDE in the electrol bote
Mccain has proven he is NOT mentally qualified to be POTUS, he has gone for the hail mary and his new slogan is
McCain/Palin = POLITICS FIRST, COUNTRY LAST

Posted by: Mccain-Politics first, Country last | September 2, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm

Oh man, McCain surrounded himself with a doosy!

Posted by: Ben Straub | September 2, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm

McCain’s economic proposals for continued tax cuts to the rich and no government regulations are vintage Gramm. In 2000, with the Republicans in charge of Congress, Texas Senator Phil “ENRON” Gramm was chair of the Senate Banking Committee. He pushed through the exemption on electronic trading without a Senate hearing. Internal ENRON documents later revealed that ENRON helped write this legislation! With no regulatory interference, ENRON used manipulative trading practices to game the California electricity market and drive up prices across the state. And Gramm’s wife Wendy – as chairwoman of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission – pushed through a key regulatory exemption removing energy derivatives contracts and interest-rate swaps from federal oversight – just what ENRON wanted. She later landed on the ENRON board of directors where she became a member of the audit committee that signed off on another one of ENRON’s fraudulent moves, partnerships that hid the company’s debt. Is this the kind of thinking we want guiding the White House?

Posted by: CaliRules | September 2, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm

McCain has become the biggest whiner since the media expected real answers to questions.
Phil Gramm belongs in prison

Posted by: Julie | September 2, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm

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