By Jennifer Parker

Sep 17, 2008 2:03pm

Senate Majority Leader on Economic Woes: ‘No One Knows What to Do’

ABC News’ Z. Byron Wolf reports from Capitol Hill: Don’t look for any legislation in the near future to address the financial crisis.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, asked today what new regulatory actions Congress can take, said, bluntly, "No one knows what to do. We are in new territory here. This is a different game. We’re not here playing soccer, basketball or football, this is a new game and we’re going to have to figure out how to do it."

A Reid spokesman said neither Treasury Secretary Paulson nor Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke offered up any suggestions for new regulatory legislation when they met with Reid in the Capitol building Tuesday night, either.

In the short run, Democrats are trying to push through a second stimulus package with funding for infrastructure improvements, renewable energy tax credits and other things. But all agree it will be up to the next President and Congress to do any re-regulation.

And its important to remember that there is no congressional oversight on the string of bailouts by the Federal Reserve of AIG, the nation’s largest insurance company, or the lending giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

Moments after the press conference, on the Senate floor, Reid said he will keep the Senate in pro forma session after the Sept. 30th departure date so that committees can meet and consider the problem.

He praised Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke for their work in engineering the bailouts.

But the senate majority leader said, "the good intentions of these two decent men cannot escape the reality that the Bush administration’s willful of oversight and zealous embrace of big business is responsible for the crisis we now face."

Reid went through a litany of bankruptcy protection bills aimed at shielding consumers rather than corporations that he said Republicans had blocked. With more protections for consumers and if the Bush administration had more zealously, or at all, policed the markets with the regulatory tools at their disposal, he wondered if the financial crisis would be happening at all.

And he seemed to forget how he voted on a now-controversial bill that largely de-regulated the financial services industry in 1999. It was written by Sen. Phil Gramm of Texas, who has since retired and is a McCain economic adviser. And Democrats, including Reid, opposed the bill when it first passed the Senate with 54 votes.

But they voted for an updated version of the bill in December of 1999 and President Clinton signed it. Reid and all but 7 Democrats in office at the time voted for the version of the bill that ultimately became law even though he said he opposed the bill when he spoke on the Senate floor today.
Regardless, Reid said the de-regulation is less important than the current administration not enforcing remaining law.

"The bill said that one holding company could own more than one type of financial services company (e.g., insurance, investment bank, commercial bank). The law did not say that regulators should no longer regulate. The problem is regulators asleep at the switch – they haven’t enforced what’s on the books. That’s McCain’s philosophy, Bush’s philosophy," he said.

But speeches like that one drew the ire of Republicans, including Sen. Mitch McConnell, the Republican leader.

"Now more than ever is the time to rise above politics and to work together. our constituents don’t want campaign speeches and hyperpartisan accusations. They want security for their homes and for their savings. They want energy security and lower costs for gas and oil, and they want protection from future tax hikes on their income. Government should be focused on bipartisan efforts to address the fundamental problems in the credit markets and must be cautious in putting taxpayer dollars at risk. and we should work together to help all Americans. "

It’s worth noting that the things McConnell suggested are inherently partisan. Protection from future tax hikes does not have uniform appeal among Democrats and "lower costs for gas and oil," coming from McConnell, would likely include drilling for oil in Alaska and off-shore.

Not everyone agrees about the cause of the financial turmoil, but on Capitol Hill they are blaming politicians over the businesses that are melting down.

Sen. Jim DeMint, R-SC, an avowed free marketer, said the problems go back to the creation of public-private hybrids like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. He said the market is not under-regulated, but over-regulated.

"Many of the problems we’re having today, particularly the problems with AIG., the failures on Wall Street, the mortgage industry, actually go back not to greed in the private market but political greed," Demint said.

"The problems that were created when this Congress and this government set up Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac as government-sponsored enter prices with the implied and now very explicit backing of the American people provided so much cheap credit to the market, securities that were bought and sold by many companies. AIG is in trouble because of these bad mortgages that originated with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. My point is that the problems we’re having are caused by the wrong kind of government intervention. this is not a failure of free enterprise. This is a failure of government solutions and the lack of government oversight into enterprises like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac that were started."

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Check out this article at Elsevier ScienceDirect:
“The Moose of the Apocalypse: Andrej Bitov’s ‘Čelovek v Pejzaže’”
By: Priscilla Meyer
Abstract
Andrei Bitov’s ‘Man in Landscape’ uses two motifs from Revelation to trace the narrator’s relationship to his divine origin: reptilian beasts and the interplay of light and dark. The apocalyptic animals, coupled with the hero’s passages from light into darkness and from darkness into light, explicate the narrator’s pilgrim’s progress from spiritual blindness to a life-giving epiphany. The narrator is led through two days of drunken wanderings by a painter who projects his own frailties onto God; he finally recognizes his blasphemy and flees the artist’s apartment, later, like John of Patmos, to provide a record of his revelation….
…And there is a MOOSE involved.
========================================================================
Hmmm…might be worth a second look given the “apocalyptic” collapse of our banking system, right after Gov. Palin’s arrival on the national scene;-)
http://tinyurl.com/4gvyl8

Posted by: niccolo m@chiavelli | September 17, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

“No one knows what to do….”
Isn’t that why we elected these idiots??? To FIGURE OUT what to do!!!!
If Reid doesn’t know what to do, then what makes him think he knows who to blame???? Like yesterday, when it was entirely McCain and the Republicans fault.
If they don’t know what to do to fix it, then how can they know who to blame?
They’ve been in control for the last two years, are we to understand that they’ve been CLUELESS the entire time??

Posted by: SandyB | September 17, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm

If congress doesn’t know what to do. Why don’t we replace them with someone that does. That is the reason we are in the trouble we’re in now. No oversight, bedfellows with big business, crime and high places. America is going to the dogs.

Posted by: William | September 17, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

I’m not sure who is dumber – Dingy Harry or Stretch Pelosi. What a waste of oxygen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Ed Stanowicz | September 17, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

niccolo: I’ll bet that you believe Harry Potter is a real person also. Apacalyptic in fantasy land but a needed correction in the real world.

Posted by: bombem | September 17, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm

Leadership!

Posted by: it's vintage, duh | September 17, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm

niccolo, that has got to be the dumbest thing I’ve read. Are you seriously equating Palin’s arrival on the national level with something that’s been going on for years? Please…..

Posted by: Kevin | September 17, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm

After TWO years controlling both houses of Congress.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, “No one knows what to do.”
Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, “We’re not to blame.”
The Dems know how to hold pointless witch-hunt hearings, but not how to lead.

Posted by: carl | September 17, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm

Don’t Do Anything, Senator! You are responsible for this mess and any action by you will only exacerbate the situation!

Posted by: The Dude | September 17, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm

OMG First Polosi, House Majority Leader (D) comes up with the Dems new campaign slogan..”Hey Don’t Blame Us,” and now Reid, Senate Majority Leader (D) adds to it “No One Know What To Do.” I, with some reluctance, lean McCain, but even I am feeling for Obama…Can’t you keep your people in line….how do you expect us to have confidence in you as a leader….I am waiting for Obama’s to say “Hey, It’s Not My Job.”

Posted by: checks and balances | September 17, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm

McCain tried to stop the madness of Fannie Mae / Freddie Mac back in 2005 and the Dems stopped it.
Obama gets tons of cash from the assholes who run it so they don’t keep an eye on their shenanigans.
Obama as POTUS is a depression in the making.
McCain is a proven leader and will give the confidence and courage to reform the regulation of the housing loan industry.
Obama will do nothing.

Posted by: Tom | September 17, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm

I know what to do. Don’t let McPalin near the White house or we are in for the worse..

Posted by: James | September 17, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm

McCAIN SAYS!!
“I know how to fix it. I know how to fix the corruption,” he said of the nation’s economic problems during an appearance Tuesday on NBC’s “Today” show. “I’ve been fighting it the whole time I’ve been in Congress.”
Ya, sure he has been fighting it all along…
DID HE FORGET HE ONE OF THE DIRTIEST AND CORRUPT SENATORS OF ALL TIME, during the KEATING FIVE scandal in 1989???
Google the KEATING FIVE “My Friends.”

Posted by: Davis | September 17, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

and these are the same people who are running around telling everyone Palin has no experiance in how Washington works
at this point i’d say that her biggiest asset

Posted by: insonh | September 17, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm

Don’t forget Presidential candidate Barack Obama, “It’s above my pay grade.”
Judgment to Lead? NO.

Posted by: carl | September 17, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm

As head of the comerce comitee. McCain took all regulations off.

Posted by: James | September 17, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm

Yes, by all means, let’s keep Pelosi, Reid, and the rest of the do-nothing Congress in charge of all of our futures….
“No one knows what to do…”
What a thing for a Senate Majority LEADER to be saying……………

Posted by: SandyB | September 17, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm

Ahhhh…..
Now I know why the Congress has a 9% approval rating.
A 5th grader would know better about what to do than Harry Reid.
We need change in the Congress!!!!!

Posted by: smartsy66 | September 17, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm

“No one knows what to do….” — Harry ‘dingy’ Reid,
“This was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal.” — Lord Barack Obama.
Harry said the democrats are clueless. So why isn’t the Lord Obama the most merciful messiah helping out here? Surely fixing the economy is a lot easier than healing the planet! Please Lord Obama, please use your godly zap ray power to fix the economy.

Posted by: Norman | September 17, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm

this is entirely the republicans faults,
mccain is for more deregulation no matter what hes saying today he has always been for deregulation (which is what got us in this place)
the bush cheney philosophy has also played a huge roll in how we got here
phil gramm (mccains friend and long time economic advisor) was the one who snuck this deregulation into a bill that allowed thsi sub prime mess.
so yes absolutely this falls ot the administration and what htey have allowed to go on for the last 8 years. We had a surplus and no debt, and now under bush he has bankrupt this country and we are in a free fall.
dont be fooled about that, but no one knows how far this goes… some people said with fannie and freddie that that was the bottom, but as we are seeing, we now have a new bottom
no one can give a definitive answer about what to do, so far it seems like obama has a bigger grasp on the things that we need to do to possibly stop this free fall, and mccain just seems to be going with whatever sounds politically nice but has no real suggestions other then he will clean it up.

Posted by: Bhrandon | September 17, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm

Big government was the cause of this problem. Obama wants to make big government even bigger. A fool’s answer!!

Posted by: dl | September 17, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm

Palin has no experience
dont act like she does, she is the most unqualified vp candidate in the history of vp candidates…
we all know that mccain took a gamble and did not vet her, and his political stunt is not looking so good so far.

Posted by: Bhrandon | September 17, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm

At LAST! An honest statement from Sen. Reid:
“This is WAY over MY pay grade! I’m in over my fu**ing head on this one, and I’m going to…going to…huh? I don’t have a CLUE what the f**k I’m going to do. Maybe Nancy Pelosi will buy a clue FOR me. Yeah! That’d work!”

Posted by: alwyr | September 17, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm

the republicans constantly talk about smaller government… wonder what happened under bush cheney?
and if obamas a fool for giving an answer then whats mccain for giving no answer?
a moron?

Posted by: Bhrandon | September 17, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm

congress has 2 more democratic votes than the republicans, bush still vetos everything sent his way, the republicans have been in charge for the last 6 years and have lost slight power in the last year
you cant blame this congress for everything they have done over the last 6 years
you cant call iraq a success with the surge you just cant suddenly change your mind and erase the last 6 years with one good news story
im sorry republicans you are failures
and right now YOU DID THIS TO US

Posted by: Bhrandon | September 17, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm

Check out this article at Elsevier ScienceDirect:
“The Moose of the Apocalypse: Andrej Bitov’s ‘Čelovek v Pejzaže’”
By: Priscilla Meyer
Abstract
Andrei Bitov’s ‘Man in Landscape’ uses two motifs from Revelation to trace the narrator’s relationship to his divine origin: reptilian beasts and the interplay of light and dark. The apocalyptic animals, coupled with the hero’s passages from light into darkness and from darkness into light, explicate the narrator’s pilgrim’s progress from spiritual blindness to a life-giving epiphany. The narrator is led through two days of drunken wanderings by a painter who projects his own frailties onto God; he finally recognizes his blasphemy and flees the artist’s apartment, later, like John of Patmos, to provide a record of his revelation….
…And there is a MOOSE involved.
——————–
Yes and Sarah Palin kill Mooses and eats them too. She is the murderer in this story.

Posted by: Andy | September 17, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm

mccain palin bush cheney hte most ethical president and vp candidates ever
love all the terrible scandals palin is involved in… too bad mccain didnt vet her
hsi vp pick shows what kind of leader he will be and just how far this man has fallen
his campaign is nothing but lies and dishonesty
straight talk?
yea right
thanks but no thanks

Posted by: Bhrandon | September 17, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

“Many of the problems we’re having today, particularly the problems with AIG., the failures on Wall Street, the mortgage industry, actually go back not to greed in the private market but political greed,” Demint said.
Um, that’s not what McCain says. He says not only is greed at fault (and was talking about good ol’ fashioned private sector greed for money), but he’s going to get rid of greed – seriously.
But then why would anyone listen to what McCain has to say anymore.
How do you know when McCain is contradicting himself?
His lips are moving.

Posted by: Paul | September 17, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm

obama is one of the largest recipients of campaign donations from fannie mae/mac and we wonder why no oversight.
this do nothing congress does not know what to do? i do, lets show them the door in november.

Posted by: nevada | September 17, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm

Bhrandon – well, the Republicans talk about a lot of stuff, but I sure can’t think of any part of government that actually took concrete steps to make any smaller.
Reagan talked about it for a while, but he never followed through.

Posted by: Paul | September 17, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm

Hey Bhrandon , two years ago John McCain warned that Freddie and Fannie would fail. The democrats ignored him. The question is why did they ignore him? Well, look at who is in the pockets of these institutions and you will find many democrats with Chris Dodd, and Obama, number 1 and 2.
John McCain now suggest that an investigation take place – I bet democrats will fight this because many democrats will go to jail.

Posted by: Norman | September 17, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm

Obama got a sweetheart deal from his mortgage company and looked the other way while Rome was burning. Obama to money from all the principles now in trouble or who have failed – again, he looked the other way.
Obama – the selling of America!

Posted by: dl | September 17, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm

Norman – “…two years ago John McCain warned that Freddie and Fannie would fail.”
Huh, I never saw that before. Can you post the quote from McCain?

Posted by: Paul | September 17, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm

Harry, the best thing you can do is get government out of the way.

Posted by: Keith Smith | September 17, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm

“Don’t forget Presidential candidate Barack Obama, “It’s above my pay grade.”
Judgment to Lead? NO.”
Hey stupid republican idiot, don’t go miquoting Obama. That was in reply to a question about abortion, and what he meant was that the decision belongs to God and the mother, not to Republican Big Brother Government.
This forum is about the economy. Obama knows how to lead. If he had been our president 8 years ago, we wouldn’t have borrowed $1 Trillion from the Chinese to fighting the War of Bush’s ego in Iraq, our national debt would be $1 Trillion lower, and the American dollar would not be devalued in the world currency market as it is today. Not to mention, Al Queda would have been chased the gates of Afghanistan and killed, and 4,176 American soldiers would be alive today.
Take your republican stupidity and stick it up your a** because American can not afford any more idiots like you, Bush, Cheyney, McWarDebt, and Palin bringing collossal destruction upon us.

Posted by: clifton | September 17, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

People need to think about: Do I really want to elect a President who says he really does not understand economics at this time? mccain/palin would be a complete disaster. Obama/Biden 2008!!!

Posted by: pt | September 17, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

Harry: First take off your party loyalty hat, go back and see where it worked as it was suppose to have worked and then where it started to loose money. There is a real good chance that some politician such as yourself stepped in to “make things better” (better known as vote pandering)and screwed the pooch (the pooches are we the tax payers)

Posted by: david | September 17, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

committee on finance/banking and currency chair Max Baucus ( DEMOCRAT) ranking member Chuck Grassley (DEMOCRAT). Committee on financial services Barney Frank (DEMOCRAT)
you do the math.

Posted by: nevada | September 17, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm

McCain knew what to do in 2005….. but you know who was busy getting their pockets lined and defeated it.
READ IT ALL.
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/17/mccains-attempt-to-fix-fannie-mae-freddie-mac-in-2005/
CC

Posted by: CapedConservative | September 17, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm

Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi prove that, if you’re from a ‘safe’ district or state, you can be elected enough to rise through the ranks of DC power — even if you’re completely incompetent!
Washington is broke and the shallow one doesn’t offer a clue about how to fix it!

Posted by: dl | September 17, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm

Hey Paul, its in the congressional record. Look it up for yourself.

Posted by: Norman | September 17, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm

Let’s talk to Barney Frank and Chris Dodd, since it is he and Dodd who chair the committees that have regulatory oversight for the companies getting the bailouts. Clinton pushed through the legislation that allowed depository institutions to also become brokerage institutions (Glass Spiegel act I think) something that was outlawed since the depression. The republicans don’t get a free pass on this one either, but McCain warned about this exact situation in 2005, he is on the record.

Posted by: twilson | September 17, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm

We all know what the first thing to do
Reid must step down.

Posted by: geevill | September 17, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm

Your hard-earned tax dollars at work, America!!!!
“No one knows what to do…”
But believe they know who to blame….
I simply cannot believe that I have been a member of this party of idiots for 30 years, and actually cheered in relief when they won both houses of Congress two years ago.
Not this time…………………..

Posted by: SandyB | September 17, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm

This is why I think reagan was the most overrated president in history. He’s the guy that de-regulated all these banks. He’s the guy that said we don’t need to make auto makers increase their fuel economy because gas prices came down at the time. What we really don’t need now is a bush-3, and that is what mccain offers. Obama/Biden 2008!!!

Posted by: pt | September 17, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm

Hey Davis,
In response to your screed concerning John McCain and the Keating Five fiasco, let me offer a little info for you. At one time, I too, thought McCain was tied up with that mess. Well, I recently saw an interview with Robert Bennett, Bill Clinton’s lawyer and a Democrat, if you remember. Well, he was the investigator in charge of the Keating investigation that went on for well over a year and he said that he came to the conclusion that John McCain is one of the most HONEST and DECENT politicians he has ever met and, that McCain was innocent of ANY misconduct in the Keating investigation. He presented this evidence to the Senate committee (controlled by the Dems who were in the majority) and they totally ignored him and included him in their sanctions because the other four Senators were Democrats and they just could not have all the people sanctioned only Democrats and they had to have a Republican included in order to not have the Dems take all the heat. So Davis, you have the right to your opinion, but you should use a little less emotion and try a more reasoned approach.

Posted by: JohnC | September 17, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm

hey Paul, I did the work for you..
Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005
Bill Summary
1/26/2005–Introduced. Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005 – Amends the Federal Housing Enterprises Financial Safety and Soundness Act of 1992 to establish: (1) in lieu of the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight of the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD), an independent Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Agency which shall have authority over the Federal Home Loan Bank Finance Corporation, the Federal Home Loan Banks, the Federal National Mortgage Association (Fannie Mae), and the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation (Freddie Mac); and (2) the Federal Housing Enterprise Board. Sets forth operating, administrative, and regulatory provisions of the Agency, including provisions respecting: (1) assessment authority; (2) authority to limit nonmission-related assets; (3) minimum and critical capital levels; (4) risk-based capital test; (5) capital classifications and undercapitalized enterprises; (6) enforcement actions and penalties; (7) golden parachutes; and (8) reporting. Amends the Federal Home Loan Bank Act to establish the Federal Home Loan Bank Finance Corporation. Transfers the functions of the Office of Finance of the Federal Home Loan Banks to such Corporation. Excludes the Federal Home Loan Banks from certain securities reporting requirements. Abolishes the Federal Housing Finance Board.

Posted by: Norman | September 17, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm

Palin will speak in tongues and will save the day. Thank heavens her briliance has arrived just in time to save us all.
Republicans have controlled Congress through Bill Clinton’s years (1990′s) to 2006 when the Democrats got a slim majority in the House and one vote in the Senate.
John McCain has been in Congress 26 years and served on the Commerce Committee, but cannot remember what it does.
During this period, Republicans have had the deregulated finances they still tout and they have destroyed our economy.
How can any intelligent working person vote for them?

Posted by: susan | September 17, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm

It started with “Community organizers” like obama playing the race card to force loans to unqualified black people.

Posted by: geevill | September 17, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm

Yep…no one in Congress knows what to do, nor has known what to do…
OOPS, except for the “Kook”…
http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2003/cr091003.htm
Keep burying your heads in the sand folks and toe your pathetic party lines…
In the meantime, we’ll keep making money.
Good Luck.

Posted by: ClassicalLiberal | September 17, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm

mccain warned that this would happen and yes it is part of the congressional record.

Posted by: nevada | September 17, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm

HON. RON PAUL OF TEXAS
IN THE HOUSE FINANCIAL SERVICES COMMITTEE
September 10, 2003
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac Subsidies Distort the Housing Market
Mr. Chairman, thank you for holding this hearing on the Treasury Department’s views regarding government sponsored enterprises (GSEs). I would also like to thank Secretaries Snow and Martinez for taking time out of their busy schedules to appear before the committee.
I hope this committee spends some time examining the special privileges provided to GSEs by the federal government. According to the Congressional Budget Office, the housing-related GSEs received 13.6 billion worth of indirect federal subsidies in fiscal year 2000 alone. Today, I will introduce the Free Housing Market Enhancement Act, which removes government subsidies from the Federal National Mortgage Association (Fannie Mae), the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation (Freddie Mac), and the National Home Loan Bank Board.
One of the major government privileges granted to GSEs is a line of credit with the United States Treasury. According to some estimates, the line of credit may be worth over $2 billion dollars. This explicit promise by the Treasury to bail out GSEs in times of economic difficulty helps the GSEs attract investors who are willing to settle for lower yields than they would demand in the absence of the subsidy. Thus, the line of credit distorts the allocation of capital. More importantly, the line of credit is a promise on behalf of the government to engage in a huge unconstitutional and immoral income transfer from working Americans to holders of GSE debt.
The Free Housing Market Enhancement Act also repeals the explicit grant of legal authority given to the Federal Reserve to purchase GSE debt. GSEs are the only institutions besides the United States Treasury granted explicit statutory authority to monetize their debt through the Federal Reserve. This provision gives the GSEs a source of liquidity unavailable to their competitors.
The connection between the GSEs and the government helps isolate the GSE management from market discipline. This isolation from market discipline is the root cause of the recent reports of mismanagement occurring at Fannie and Freddie. After all, if Fannie and Freddie were not underwritten by the federal government, investors would demand Fannie and Freddie provide assurance that they follow accepted management and accounting practices.
Ironically, by transferring the risk of a widespread mortgage default, the government increases the likelihood of a painful crash in the housing market. This is because the special privileges granted to Fannie and Freddie have distorted the housing market by allowing them to attract capital they could not attract under pure market conditions. As a result, capital is diverted from its most productive use into housing. This reduces the efficacy of the entire market and thus reduces the standard of living of all Americans.
Despite the long-term damage to the economy inflicted by the government’s interference in the housing market, the government’s policy of diverting capital to other uses creates a short-term boom in housing. Like all artificially-created bubbles, the boom in housing prices cannot last forever. When housing prices fall, homeowners will experience difficulty as their equity is wiped out. Furthermore, the holders of the mortgage debt will also have a loss. These losses will be greater than they would have otherwise been had government policy not actively encouraged over-investment in housing.
Perhaps the Federal Reserve can stave off the day of reckoning by purchasing GSE debt and pumping liquidity into the housing market, but this cannot hold off the inevitable drop in the housing market forever. In fact, postponing the necessary, but painful market corrections will only deepen the inevitable fall. The more people invested in the market, the greater the effects across the economy when the bubble bursts.
No less an authority than Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan has expressed concern that government subsidies provided to GSEs make investors underestimate the risk of investing in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
Mr. Chairman, I would like to once again thank the Financial Services Committee for holding this hearing. I would also like to thank Secretaries Snow and Martinez for their presence here today. I hope today’s hearing sheds light on how special privileges granted to GSEs distort the housing market and endanger American taxpayers. Congress should act to remove taxpayer support from the housing GSEs before the bubble bursts and taxpayers are once again forced to bail out investors who were misled by foolish government interference in the market. I therefore hope this committee will soon stand up for American taxpayers and investors by acting on my Free Housing Market Enhancement Act.

Posted by: ClassicalLiberal | September 17, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm

Spoken like a true Democrat.
Reid just shrugs his shoulders and says “we have no ideas”. Seems the Dems are only good at complaining and pointing fingers.

Posted by: JA | September 17, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm

McCain will fix it!!!!
Obama will fix it!!!!
ROFLMAO.
Good Luck Sheep!

Posted by: ClassicalLiberal | September 17, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm

This is not the Republican’s fault, at least not wholly. Twice, in 2003 and 2005, the Republicans tried to institute better oversight. Even the NYT thought the President’s idea in 2003 was a good idea, since accounting scandals had been going on for years and no one in Congress (who had oversight) was doing anything about it. Both times, it never got out of committee in the Senate, thanks to Chris Dodd and the lobbying efforts of Fannie and Freddie. This was predicted years ago by, you guessed it, John McCain. This subprime mess was caused by enacting legislation to force lenders to expand home ownership into the lower income areas – a noble goal. It had the affect of rapidly raising home prices, pricing lower income homeowners out. The only way to keep up with the directive was to drastically expand the subprime loans in order to qualify more homeowners. These guys took it way too far, with no-doc and interest only loans. It made tons of money short term, but they didn’t say no to those they knew wouldn’t be able to pay.
Overall, this falls on the Democrats almost exclusively, as they blocked all efforts to rein in the two largest mortgage underwriters as a matter of politics, not governance. IF you want to blame it on Presidents, blame it on Bill Clinton, he pushed for the relaxed rules and he signed the dereg bill you all try to pin on GWB and McCain.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer | September 17, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm

norman thank you for taking the time to post the record that PROVES that mccain warned that this would happen.

Posted by: nevada | September 17, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm

clifton | Sep 17, 2008 2:54:13 PM
Clifton, you are another mindless Obama sheep bleating “Hope and Change” and offering only insults and obscenity instead of intelligence. Grow up, boy–and put away the beer muscles.
Obama’s gutless response to the abortion question–as a candidate who wants to appoint the Justices who will decide all abortion issues in America–shows just how devoid of leadership Obama is–as well as Reid and Pelosi. Obama’s paygrade answer was just one more “Present” vote added to the mountain he cast in the Illinois senate.

Posted by: carl | September 17, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm

McCain will find it almost impossible to live up to his vow of no earmarks, gridlock would result if Congress refused to go along with such an executive branch power grab.
And that’s what members of McCain’s own party are saying.
“I don’t think it’s the right approach,” said Rep. Ralph Regula, an Ohio Republican who has spent three decades on the House Appropriations Committee. “I haven’t done an earmark I wouldn’t be happy to have spread all over the front pages of the paper.”
Rep. C.W. Bill Young (R-Fla.), a former Appropriations Committee chairman, warns that both parties in Congress would protect their power against a no-earmark policy.
“The Constitution is very specific and very clear about who appropriates money,” Young said. “Not all earmarks are pork-barrel spending.”
McCain has billed himself and his running mate as mavericks who will stand up to foolish spending.

Posted by: richardcranium1 | September 17, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm

Hey, Mister Community Organizer:
Can’t you offer anything positive to do?
I thought not!
So, continue puffing hot air and making personal attacks. By all means, avoid being pinned down on any issue. Blame Martians or someone else for the problems. And above all, keep looking down your nose at your followers.
Posted by

Posted by: dl | September 17, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm

The Democratic idiots in Congress can’t figure this out, but we’re supposed to elect Obama so the Democrats can have control of Congress and the White House???
Yeah, right………………….

Posted by: SandyB | September 17, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm

This congress is a disaster but the worst is being hidden because the media is way too busy misrepresenting republican candidates and editing their true statements.
Here is some straight talk…
Democratic congress (see Barney Frank video) would not permit any look at Fannie/Freddie – in response to Bush 2003 request and McCain 2005 for oversight to determine all the looming problems.
Obama is one of the top 3 recipients of money from Fannie/Freddie.
Democrats lead all the committees that would be looking at the banks and credits rules.
Democrats were executives for Fannie/Freddie and accumulated 100′s of millions of dollars while doing it in the past dozen years.
Now, why do you think old do nothing Harry Reid doesn’t know what to do?
If you are supporting the idea that Democrats are not the problem with this credit/banking problem, you are part of the problem too. You and your children will be he beneficiaries of continuing to support them and let them take your hard earned cash.

Posted by: SusanG | September 17, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm

Hey Norman! Isn’t your candidate the guy who keeps whining about CEOs getting a ton of cash while screwing the little people? Maybe Obambi could start by getting tough with these CEOs, eh? Heres a little information for you. By conservative estimates, Mudd, 49, and Syron, 64, will leave with an additional $7.3 million and $6.3 million, respectively, as part of a severance package, according to an analysis by Paul Hodgson at the Corporate Library. Mudd is another genius from General Electric, the company that owns NBC. Syron claims that he received enormous pressure from an un-named lawmaker pushing Freddie to take on the bad loans. So the Times reports that as Syron and others sat in a conference room reviewing the memo, Syron “refused to consider possibilities for reducing Freddie Mac’s risks. He said we couldn’t afford to say no to anyone.” I wonder who in Congress was pressuring him to take bad loans?

Posted by: gordon | September 17, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm

Per the article: R-SC DeMint says that AIG is in trouble because of bad mortgages that originated with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. So a Republican has stated the problem and we’re supposed to vote for McCain who has lobbyist in his campaign as advisors for these institutions? To add insult to injury, the McCain camp hired uber Washington lobbyist, William Timmons to run his transition team to the White House should he get elected. This lobbyist so close to McCain has registered to work on bills that deal with the regulations of troubled mortgage lenders Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, a bill to provide farm subsidies and bills that regulate domestic oil-drilling. How is McCain going to serve two masters?

Posted by: Paige | September 17, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm

Okay, I read the link.
My thoughts are first, its an exaggeration to say McCain predicted the collapse of Freddie/Fannie, and second, we see another reference to golden parachutes… which takes us down an interesting avenue.
The bill which McCain co-sponsored would have set up yet another governmental organization to oversee Fannie and Freddie, right? I mean, that’s basically all it does.
It doesn’t do anything about predatory lending practices. Basically what McCain was arguing against was cooking the books by Fannie/Freddie executives, in order to qualify for bonuses – which don’t get me wrong, certainly is a valid concern.
And we see how this body would oversee accounting as well as bonuses and pensions – golden parachutes are called out.
Now this week when McCain says he’ll eliminate golden parachutes throughout the financial sector, is he talking about a similar governmental expansion, to oversee fully non-governmental corporations, and that seemingly can over-rule the private corporate boards?

Posted by: Paul | September 17, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm

Reid can start be returning his pay.

Posted by: geevill | September 17, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm

“No one is sure what to do”
Charge! Blindly in to the night……

Posted by: Uncle Bob | September 17, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm

Hey nevada, you are welcome, the truth is everywhere! If democrats did real research and ignore the biased liberal media they will be stunned at what they find and how they have been misled.

Posted by: Norman | September 17, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm

The general co-chairman of John McCain’s presidential campaign, former Sen. Phil Gramm (R-Texas), led the charge in 1999 to repeal a Depression-era banking regulation law that Democrat Barack Obama claimed on Thursday contributed significantly to today’s economic turmoil.
“A regulatory structure set up for banks in the 1930s needed to change because the nature of business had changed,” the Illinois senator running for president said in a New York economic speech. “But by the time [it] was repealed in 1999, the $300 million lobbying effort that drove deregulation was more about facilitating mergers than creating an efficient regulatory framework.”
Gramm’s role in the swift and dramatic recent restructuring of the nation’s investment houses and practices didn’t stop there.
A year after the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act repealed the old regulations, Swiss Bank UBS gobbled up brokerage house Paine Weber. Two years later, Gramm settled in as a vice chairman of UBS’s new investment banking arm.
Later, he became a major player in its government affairs operation. According to federal lobbying disclosure records, Gramm lobbied Congress, the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department about banking and mortgage issues in 2005 and 2006.
During those years, the mortgage industry pressed Congress to roll back strong state rules that sought to stem the rise of predatory tactics used by lenders and brokers to place homeowners in high-cost mortgages.
For his work, Gramm and two other lobbyists collected $750,000 in fees from UBS’s American subsidiary. In the past year, UBS has written down more than $18 billion in exposure to subprime loans and other risky securities and is considering cutting as many as 8,000 jobs.
Gramm did not respond to an e-mail and was unavailable for comment, according to a UBS spokesman. The bank has no official position on the subprime crisis, the spokesman said, but is a member of the Financial Services Roundtable and other industry groups that are actively lobbying Congress on the issue.
Now, some housing experts and economists see Gramm’s thinking in the recent housing proposal from McCain, the Republican Party’s presumed presidential nominee. Gramm is often a surrogate for the Arizona senator, particularly in meetings focused on the economy. And McCain has hinted he’d consider the former Texas senator for Treasury secretary in a McCain administration.
McCain delivered an economic speech Tuesday that had Gramm’s input, but it was written by domestic policy adviser Douglas Holtz-Eakin.
“Sen. Gramm was one of dozens of folks whom Sen. McCain has consulted on the housing issue, including Carly Fiorina and Meg Whitman from eBay,” said McCain campaign spokesman Brian Rogers. “They’ve been friends for years, and he values Sen. Gramm’s advice.”
In the speech, McCain rejected the type of aggressive government intervention in the economic meltdown that has been embraced by his Democratic opponents — and even some Bush advisers.
“I have always been committed to the principle that it is not the duty of government to bail out and reward those who act irresponsibly, whether they are big banks or small borrowers,” McCain said. “Government assistance to the banking system should be based solely on preventing systemic risk that would endanger the entire financial system and the economy.”

Posted by: richardcranium1 | September 17, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm

What about that Ron Paul guy? He seemed to predict the whole thing. Why not ask him?

Posted by: Ben Straub | September 17, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm

Clifton -
How about the Congressional Record as a source of McCain’s take on Fannie-Freddie? Go to Thomas – it’s all there
comments on joining as cosponsor FEDERAL HOUSING ENTERPRISE REGULATORY REFORM ACT OF 2005 — (Senate – May 25, 2006)
Don’t forget to look at NYT for its discussion on how the Dems pushed back on Bush/Republican plan in 2003 to add additional oversight/reform to Fannie/Freddie.

Posted by: END | September 17, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm

Clueless Harry Reid head of the most inept Congress EVAR! 9% Approval of the Do-Nothing Congress.
IMPEACH REID AND PELOSI!!!

Posted by: SkinsFan | September 17, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm

People should listen, Ben….they should listen now and they should have been listening all along rather than dissing.
Unfortunately, people in this country put their pathetic party loyalty above all else. Obama, McCain….BOTH MORE OF THE SAME. People will wake up sooner or later….
Good Luck.
http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2003/cr091003.htm

Posted by: ClassicalLiberal | September 17, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm

Reid and Pelosi, the top Democratic Congressional geniuses who have now brought you….
Democratic Presidential Nominee Barack Obama………
Wow, what a ringing endorsement……

Posted by: SandyB | September 17, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm

>>Norman – “…two years ago John McCain
>>warned that Freddie and Fannie would
>>fail.”
>Huh, I never saw that before. Can you
>post the quote from McCain?
I’m not Norman, but here’s a link http://tinyurl.com/5t3jts
May 25, 2006: “…For years I have been concerned about the regulatory structure that governs Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac–known as Government-sponsored entities or GSEs–and the sheer magnitude of these companies and the role they play in the housing market. OFHEO’s report this week does nothing to ease these concerns. In fact, the report does quite the contrary. OFHEO’s report solidifies my view that the GSEs need to be reformed without delay….”
He nailed it spot on. The Democrats blocked reform.
-RegularJoe

Posted by: RegularJoe | September 17, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm

Hey…..
At least this guy is honest.
They don’t know WHAT to do !!!

Posted by: John McNugget | September 17, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm

The subprime mortgage loan products were invented and implemented during the Bush Administration. The executive branch and the lobbyists who write the policy for Bush (and now McCain) are responsible. We never had subprime loans until Wall Street, with help from their lobbyists and friends in the White House, dreamed it up.

Posted by: Steve from Danville | September 17, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm

When Roosevelt’s New Deal acted to rein in the abuses in financial markets, it regulated the major players — commercial banks, investment banks, stock brokers, holding companies, and stock exchanges. But two of the biggest purveyors of risk today — hedge funds and private-equity firms — simply did not exist. Today, private-equity firms and hedge funds do most of the things banks and investment banks do. They basically create credit by making markets in exotic securities. They buy and sell firms. They speculate in financial markets with borrowed money, taking much bigger risks than regulated banks. According to House Banking Committee Chair Barney Frank, more than half the credit created in recent years has been created by essentially unregulated institutions. The people in charge of the government — conservative Republicans — took the view that these new-wave financial players offered transactions between consenting adults who needed no special consumer protection. But they were oblivious to the risks to the larger system.

Posted by: richardcranium1 | September 17, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm

Ron Paul was right all along. What a kook!

Posted by: Huh | September 17, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm

McCain: “I have always been committed to the principle that it is not the duty of government to bail out and reward those who act irresponsibly, whether they are big banks or small borrowers,” McCain said. “Government assistance to the banking system should be based solely on preventing systemic risk that would endanger the entire financial system and the economy.”
Well, no kidding. That’s U.S. policy, and I haven’t heard anyone from either party suggest changing it.
The issue is when systemic risk to the entire financial system exists.
The Bush Administration, especially its Treasury Dept, thinks that’s the case with AIG. McCain can disagree all he likes, but from what I heard on C-Span, the Bush Administration gave lawmakers a pretty compelling case.

Posted by: Paul | September 17, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm

Repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act. This action, in 1999, was one of two major cases when a cornerstone of New Deal regulation was explicitly repealed. (The other was the repeal of the Public Utility Holding Company Act, and if your utility rates are sky-high, you can thank Congress for that, too.) Glass-Steagall provided that if you wanted to speculate as an investment bank, good luck to you. But commercial banks were part of the banking system. They created credit. They were regulated, supervised, usually enjoyed FDIC insurance, and had access to advances from the Fed in emergencies. So commercial banks and investment banks were two different creatures that should stay out of each other’s knitting.
But beginning in the 1980s, regulators who didn’t believe in regulation either allowed explicit waivers of some aspects of Glass-Steagall or looked the other way as commercial banks and investment banks became more alike. By 1999, when Citigroup had jumped the gun and assembled a supermarket that included a commercial bank, investment bank, stock brokerage, and insurance company, Glass Steagall was so hollowed out that it was effectively dead. The coup de grace was its official repeal, in the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. That’s Gramm as in former Sen. Phil Gramm, a deregulation zealot and top adviser to John McCain.

Posted by: richardcranium1 | September 17, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm

If ever there were a reason NOT to vote for the shallow one, it’s the Pelosi/Reid combo. Can you imagine what DC would be like with those three idiots.

Posted by: dl | September 17, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm

Failing to Police Sub-prime. The core idea of bank regulation is that government inspectors periodically examine the quality of bank assets. If too large a portion of a bank’s loan portfolio is behind in its interest payments, the bank is made to raise more capital as a cushion against losses. Problems are nipped in the bud. But complex securities require more sophisticated regulation than simple loans. Regulators basically waived the rule on adequate capital for the new wave of mortgage lenders who created sub-prime. Many mortgage companies were not banks. They made loans only to sell them off to the Wall Street sinners of Deadly Sin No. 1 (see above). So there was no loan portfolio to examine, and no real capital. The Democratic Congress anticipated this problem in 1994, when it passed the Homeownership Opportunity and Equity Protection Act. This prescient law required the Federal Reserve to regulate the loan-origination standards of mortgage companies that were not otherwise government-regulated. But Alan Greenspan, a free-market zealot, never implemented the law. And when Republicans took over Congress in 1995, they never called him on the carpet.

Posted by: richardcranium1 | September 17, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm

hey Steve from Danville,
The National Homeownership Strategy began in 1994 when Clinton directed HUD Secretary Henry Cisneros to come up with a plan…
For many potential homebuyers, the lack of cash available to accumulate the required downpayment and closing costs is the major impediment to purchasing a home. Other households do not have sufficient available income to to make the monthly payments on mortgages financed at market interest rates for standard loan terms. Financing strategies, fueled by the creativity and resources of the private and public sectors, should address both of these financial barriers to homeownership.

Posted by: Norman | September 17, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm

The war in Iraq, and now the war on the American taxpayers (who will pay for the bail-out and golden parachutes) will go down as the biggest blunders in American History since the Civil War. Thank you George Bush. And NO WAY to John McCain, more of the same old crap.

Posted by: Steve from Danville | September 17, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm

Good thing that “experienced” politicians like Reid and Pelosi are in charge of Congress.
NOT!
So much for the value of “experience”. The blind leading the blind.

Posted by: Jon Do | September 17, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm

>Clueless Harry Reid head of the most
>inept Congress EVAR! 9% Approval of the
>Do-Nothing Congress.
The real mystery is where they found 9% that approve!!
-RegularJoe

Posted by: RegularJoe | September 17, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm

Steve from Danville
You really should get out more often.

Posted by: dl | September 17, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm

Steve from Danville, this cr@p started with ober democrat FDR when he invented the new deal. Tax payers will be paying for that mess for ever. Now the Lord Obama wants to now expand this!!!

Posted by: Norman | September 17, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm

RegularJoe: “He nailed it spot on. The Democrats blocked reform.”
Not true, based on your own link.
What was blocked was an attempt to further expand government for the sake of creating an accounting oversight organization that could prevent bogus executive payouts.
What McCain didn’t do was predict that either housing giant was in trouble – only that its accounting practices could hurt housing.
Now I’m not saying McCain was wrong or right on this. I don’t like government expansion, but I’m not crazy about executives getting bogus bonuses, either.
But let’s not pretend that the bill you linked would have prevented this current situation.

Posted by: Paul | September 17, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm

Imagine how bad its going to be when social security blows up – Thank you FDR!

Posted by: Norman | September 17, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm

“The war in Iraq, and now the war on the American taxpayers (who will pay for the bail-out and golden parachutes) will go down as the biggest blunders in American History since the Civil War. Thank you George Bush. And NO WAY to John McCain, more of the same old crap.”
Lemme guess, Obama is the anti-war candidate?
HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa!!!!
There’s no place like home…
*heel click, heel click, heel click*
There’s no place like home….
Good Luck.

Posted by: ClassicalLiberal | September 17, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm

Did anyone listen to Frau Palin’s speech on Monday? In the same speech she demanded new regulation and oversight of the financial industry and then went on to say that, once elected, she would fight to remove governmental intrusion into the free market. IN THE SAME SPEECH!! Does she even know what she is saying when she flip-flops IN THE SAME SPEECH? At least McCain waited 12 hours before he flip-flopped. and she has the cred to be president !!!!!! These Deregulations are the same ones that John McCain and the Keating 5 got in so much trouble for and the GOP pushed thru in the 90′s and up to 2004 in the Mort,stocks, energy, and banking fields they push for NO oversight and now in the same speech she says she wants and doesn’t want Gov. regulations ?!?

Posted by: richardcranium1 | September 17, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm

richardcranium1 >> blah blah endless blah blah cut-and-paste blah blah hysterical blah blah even more blah blah does he think anyone is going to read all this blah blah incredibly still more blah blah etc….
Brevity is the soul of wit. It would appear, then, that you are witless.
Even your name would be more fitting in its briefer form!
-RegularJoe

Posted by: RegularJoe | September 17, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm

Norman: “Steve from Danville, this cr@p started with ober democrat FDR when he invented the new deal. Tax payers will be paying for that mess for ever. Now the Lord Obama wants to now expand this!!!”
Well, Norman, the New Deal and World War II combined didn’t even equal as much debt as we’ve run up by invading Iraq.
Check out the history of the debt – it didn’t hit its first trillion dollars until sometime in the 1970s.
The debt ballooned first under Reagan, and then more dauntingly under this Bush Administration. Bush took over with roughtly a $5 trillion debt, and it will be over $10 trillion when he leaves office.

Posted by: Paul | September 17, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm

Norman: If you are trying to blame the previous administration for the proliferation of “liar loans” it’s not going to stick. These loans were extremely uncommon in the in the 1990′s. It wasn’t until the refi boom of 2000-2004 that they proliferated into the nightmare enducing end game we are now enduring. Lehman Brothers and their subsidiary BNC Mortgage were the main culprits. Can anyone really expect or trust McCain and the Republicans to fix a problem invented on Wall Sreet? John McCain, god bless him, can’t keep his story straight from one day to the next.

Posted by: Steve from Danville | September 17, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm

Two words: Ron Paul

Posted by: Ben Straub | September 17, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm

Funny…
Republican pundits are always quick to whine that Democrats are guilty of trying to “wage class warfare”, whenever Democrats point out how unfair our tax-system is – favoring corporate tax-breaks and shifting the tax burden unfairly onto the shoulders of middle and low-income working American families…
…though in fact it is Republicans who, lacking coherent policies for the future, and unwilling to take responsibility for their own past failures over the past 8 years….
are the one’s who whimper witlessly about how “liberal elites”, “Harvard educated this or that….”, the “elite liberal media”… are being somehow being unfair to their beloved “Walmart Shopping Hockey Mom”.
The Republican party – What a “party of whiners”!
(to paraphrase John McCain’s economic policy advisor Phil Gramm, who called America “a nation of whiners” for worrying about the current state of our national economy)

Posted by: niccolo m@chiavelli | September 17, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm

Anyone on this blog from Nevada that wants to admit they voted for Harry Reid?
How about SF — why do keep sending Pelosi back to Congress.
No matter who becomes President the scariest thought in the world is that Nancy Pelosi is 3rd in line for the Presidency. OMG!!!

Posted by: Kerrie | September 17, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm

Please get rid of Harry Reid…. he is the biggest whinner of all….
Reid – “Oil makes us SICK,SICK,SICK”
Harry — you make me SICK,SICK,SICK!!

Posted by: Amanda | September 17, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm

Paul, Mr. Bush, who took office with a $236 billion surplus that turned into a deficit we did NOT have a deficit when he took office

Posted by: richardcranium1 | September 17, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm

Hey Harry why not ask Ron Paul. Everything he said in the debates has come true. People mocked him and called him a kook, yet he was 100% accurate in his accessments.

Posted by: antenian | September 17, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm

Hey Pres. Bush -
Now that you’ve gotten us into a war in Iraq that we did not need to wage…
Now that your willful lack of oversight and deregulation of financial markets has resulted in the bankruptcy or sale of 3 of our nation’s five largest banks.
Now that your willful lack of oversight and deregulation of financial markets has resulted in the sub-prime mortgage crisis, a crisis that is dragging down the entire American economy.
What are you going to do next?
George Bush:
I’m going to “Walt Disney Land”:-)
But seriously, what do I care….
I’m going to stick the nation and the next generation with the bill. Its not mine to pay.:-) You all U.S.A. can pick up the tab.
I’m going home to retirement in Crawford , Texas. I go mine…what do I care about what anybody else might be suffering….”

Posted by: niccolo m@chiavelli | September 17, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm

Better Nancy Pelosi than Moose Lady!

Posted by: Wm. J. LePetomaine | September 17, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm

Regulosi: Come out, come out where ever you are!!

Posted by: bombem | September 17, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm

Hey regular joeGOP was my last post short enough for you moron go drink some more koolaid I posted those things to show truth and yes some say it better then me but I have to know something to know what to post and what to look for jerkoff all you do is come on here and throw out stupid crap to people you disagree with and don’t support your views

Posted by: richardcranium1 | September 17, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm

Well, I was around back when a Democrat Congress let the economy tank by inaction at the end of the Bush 41 term. I’ve been watching it happen again for two years (they didn’t even bother to deliver on the #1 promise: end the War in Iraq).
But this time the Democrats may have opened Pandora’s Box on themselves. I wonder if Americans will vote in an untested Democratic Junior Senator to take over in a real time of crisis?
The Russians, Chinese, Iranians, etc. will push Obama to see if he’s as weak as he looks, and a wrong move could escalate big-time, like JFK’s missle crisis and Berlin Wall, or Carter’s hostage crisis.
And I wouldn’t be surprised under Obama to see a return to the Carter economy. If he really does try to redistribute the wealth of the “rich” with taxes he will find out that they didn’t get to be rich by being stupid. They will move their wealth to tax shelters or offshore and ride out his 4 years, killing the U.S. economy while making a return on investment in China or India or whereever else they find a business opportunity to their liking, and I won’t blame them a bit. Who knows? I might end up in India myself the way my company is shifting work its technical work there…

Posted by: Jon Do | September 17, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm

Flip-flop, Diddy-bop McCain. First he was for deregulation. Now, of course, we need more regulation in the financial industry. Hypocrite.

Posted by: Wm. J. LePetomaine | September 17, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm

Richard – we did have a debt, though.
And by the way, we did have a deficit even in Clinton’s last year, the way most people would consider the numbers.
The Clinton Administration followed the same accounting procedures as its predecessors, and under those procedures we did have a surplus. But that doesn’t count the money we borrowed from trust funds; most notably Social Security. All balanced out, we still were in deficit spending and the debt continued to grow.
But even if it hadn’t, just balancing the budget does nothing to reduce the debt. The personal finance analogy would be making credit card payments that keep the balance steady – but not actually paying off the balance.

Posted by: Paul | September 17, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm

Oh and I picked my name just for guys like YOU reg joe

Posted by: richardcranium1 | September 17, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm

Regulosi: Come out, come out where ever you are!!

Posted by: bombem | September 17, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm

Harry Reid is a dunce.

Posted by: Mack | September 17, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm

Flip-flop, Diddy-Bop McCain. Sixteen years being a part of the system, voting 90% of the time with Bush. Now he wants us to believe he is a “reformer” taking on his own party? How dumb does he think people are?

Posted by: Wm. J. LePetomaine | September 17, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm

Maybe it is above Reid’s paygrade? Isn’t that the Obama-approved answer for really hard questions?

Posted by: Holdfast | September 17, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm

Anyone see today’s gallup poll (www.gallup.com). Obama is up for the 6th straight day, and now has pulled again of McCain in the Gallup, Zogby, and Reuters polls.
He’s not the white, evangelical, end-of-times, big-brother-spying-on-Americans, dumb-war-starting, trillion-dollar-debt-selling, government expansionist that republicans want in office, but he is gaining the confidence of Americans and pulling ahead despite the efforts of the RNC staffers who pretend to be ordinary people posting here.
A brighter day is ahead…

Posted by: clifton | September 17, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm

RegularJoe: >>”He nailed it spot on. The
>>Democrats blocked reform.”
>Not true, based on your own link.
>What was blocked was an attempt to
>further expand government for the sake
>of creating an accounting oversight
>organization that could prevent bogus
>executive payouts.
Gee, Politifact (though not necessarily glowing with praise for McCain) seems to think that the intent was more than that. But supposing you were correct. A significant part of the current problem stems from executives at FM/FM manipulating the books to make it look like things were better than they were (a la Enron) in order to receive performance-based bonuses. So even if your assertion was correct, your conclusion bespeaks a lack of understanding of the problem. Would the bill have avoided the meltdown? We’ll never know. But McCain at least saw it coming, and attempted to increase oversight.

Posted by: RegularJoe | September 17, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm

antenian,
I’ve come to realize that people don’t want to hear the truth.
America…a beautiful country….filled with a bunch of idiots.
Get in line sheep….your party is going to be leaving without you…..your headed to the land of Serfdom.
Good Luck.

Posted by: ClassicalLiberal | September 17, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm

Does John McCain know much or even care about the current financial meltdown?
Why should he? His personal fortune, his multi-millions will remain untouched by our current financial troubles.
His wife’s beer franchise will keep him wealthy – people drink beer in good times and in bad. :-)
======================================
When he now says – “The financial markets need more oversight”. Don’t believe for a second that he’s going to act on this promise.
I doubt he can balance his own checkbook, let alone begin to understand the complex problems associated with enacting new, comprehensive, and effective oversight regulations.
Anyway…throughout his career he has been vocally opposed to oversight.

Posted by: niccolo m@chiavelli | September 17, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm

Reg joe Mccain has been quoted and there is Video of him saying “no one could have seen this coming” in 2007 so when did he see it coming? after no one could have

Posted by: richardcranium1 | September 17, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

Kerrie: your attack on Pelosi is just another partisan smoke screen. She had nothing to do with the subprime crisis. You do point out one thing that IS important, however. It will be necessary to obtain a large majority in the upcoming elections to sweep out the GOP riffraff like Larry Craig, Tom DeLay, Mark Foley, Jack Abramoff wannabees, and the other lobbyist hacks who are obstructing democracy in America.

Posted by: Steve from Danville | September 17, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm

RichardCranium1> Paul, Mr. Bush, who took
>office with a $236 billion surplus
>that turned into a deficit we did NOT
>have a deficit when he took office
In addition to Paul’s observations, I also note that he took office with a recession — partly of Clinton’s making, by bursting the dot-com bubble (needed doing, but timing was calculated to cause mess on next president’s watch) and the HUGE technology sales rush leading up to and sales drop following Y2K (every company replaced every piece of high tech gear in 1998-1999, then didn’t need anything for a couple of years after that).
Bush also inherited a global terrorism crisis that was just about to explode — not something I blame on Clinton as much as some do, but I certainly don’t blame Bush.
BTW, I smell an all-day pissing match in the making. Sorry, I haven’t time. Go ahead and savage me with the final word, and let onlookers decide who has the “stuff”.
-RegularJoe

Posted by: RegularJoe | September 17, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm

McCain and his Republican cronies let greed go unregulated with Phil Gramm’s 1999 de-regulation bill. Gramm made a bundle of money due to that bill. Another one of McCain’s “good intentions” gone to heck. Welcome to Heck, McCain.

Posted by: Sallie32cat | September 17, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm

The Dems will promise all things to all people but when the time comes to make important decisions they become paralyzed with indecisiveness. Worst case examples of leadership and yet ABC is still worried sick about Palin’s tanning bed.

Posted by: Tobias2012 | September 17, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm

Obama hasn’t been ahead for 6 straight days…….
Go drink some more Kool Aid…..

Posted by: SandyB | September 17, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm

Why is the media not calling Obama out about his role in the Fannie Freddie catastrophe? Obama is the number two recipient of campaign contributions from Fannie and Freddie. Obama has never introduced any legislation that would have regulated Fannie and Freddie’s loan practices of making loans to high risk borrowers. Yet Obama is saying now as President he will take the action necessary to regulated Fannie and Freddie. Problem is Obama is not credible on this issue or any other issue for that manner. Obama’s top two economic advisers are former Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac CEO’s who may have pulled strings to give Obama a “heads up”on the recent government bail-out plan. Washington Prowler has the story: Obama’s economic advisers from day one and who have raised him a ton of money: are Franklin Raines and Jim Johnson. Both of them are up to their eyeballs in the mortgage debacle. Both Raines and Johnson have served as CEO of Fannie Mae, with Raines taking over from Johnson. How Obama can say with a straight face that Republicans are responsible for the mess, when it is his key advisers who ran the agencies that that are the primary people behind the mess is beyond belief. The people who are responsible for what may well be the single largest government bailout in history are Obama‘s top economic advisors.. And every single one of them made millions off the collapse that are lining Obama’s campaign coffers. If McCain had Raines and Johnson as his campaign advisers you can bet the farm that the media would be all over it. Why the silence? Beware the Obama/Media complex.

Posted by: sam | September 17, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm

“The Pelosi-Obama Congress has failed to pass an all-of-the-above energy plan, failed to stop earmarks, and failed to break the partisan gridlock that plagues Washington, If Pelosi thinks the Democratic Congress is doing a good job handling the economy now, then just imagine how bad our economy would be if Democrats controlled the White House, too.” — Alex Conant.

Posted by: Norman | September 17, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm

Obama wants to raise taxes on American businesses and hand over the money to the middle class and poor so they can go out and buy “toasters” made in China so all the American jobs go to China and American business goes under.

Posted by: Sara | September 17, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm

mccain may have seen it coming and it looks like his statement was particularly about them falsifying their profit margins….
phil gramm is the person most responsible for this de regulation and mccain as he has stated is a fundamental de regulator
maybe thats what he meant by the fundamentals of our economy are strong

Posted by: Bhrandon | September 17, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm

I’ll tell you what to do Reid – go home and take Nancy and Dean w. you for starters. Then we the people need to put in congress someone who has economical common sense. But we don’t do that! We just sent John Kerry back to congress (he has been there since 1984) and last night on TV, I heard him talking about saving the earth! Sweet Jesus! I want to save the planet as much as the next guy but I want to have food on the table, I want to have a job and a roof above my head to. We need a few things to get the economy on solid footing again and I would list them here but it is just to log and the dim-wits from Washington are to corrupt and to power drunk to do anything for the middle class American. We are in the mess we are in because of the special interests in Washington, because of the lobbyists who convinced the Congress to free the credit markets so all Joe Smow can get loans on top of loans regardless if they could pay back or not. Then Joe Bidden and his son come up with the new anti-bankrupcy laws so now the credit card companies and credit collection companies have more power over Joe Smow. And the politicians pretend ‘they did not know’. AIG was a good company to save but i am not sure it can be saved since AIG insures the rest of the banks against their own stupid decisions to engage in risky loan practices. And so it goes a catch 22. Good luck America!

Posted by: Olga MA | September 17, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm

Why doesn’t Obambi the Messiah contact Reid and Pelosi and tell them what to do. Obambi has been on the campaign trail for two days telling Americans that we don’t need Commissions we have the answers.
Well if Obambi has the answers why doesn’t he tell Reid and Barney Frank.

Posted by: JAZ | September 17, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm

We have had the most unaccomplished Congress EVER and this is AFTER Democrats took house.
Get these guys out of here and don’t even think about getting Obama in there.
Look at these resources:
http://online.wsj.com/public/article_print/SB122126282034130461.html
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/17/mccains-attempt-to-fix-fannie-mae-freddie-mac-in-2005/
http://mccainpalin2008.blogspot.com/2008/09/blame-democrats-for-this-crisis-and-one.html
-Paul
http://mccainpalin2008.blogspot.com

Posted by: Paul | September 17, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm

Notice all the republicans, and mccain supporters actually have nothing material to say except for rhetoric?
This IS bush’s fault.. He has vetoed everything.
He appointed ben bernanke, and christopher cox… These people stood blindly by… while american companies were being raided..
They removed all of the regulations turned a blind eys..
Let oil go to 150, and now down to 80…
Seriously… who is making money here…
All of bush and his cronies, are trying to go out making as much money off of us innocent taxpayers as they can..
WAKE UP AMERICA and vote for OBAMA.
Mccain will plunge us into a depresssion..

Posted by: frank | September 17, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm

We are paying for the sins of democratizing the American dream. We thought that it was un-American if someone cannot own a house and that it bears no risk to enlarge home ownership. If everyone out there was as lucky as Obama to have a Rezko to subsidize his/her own house, we would not be in this housing mess.
Let’s vote for Obama and hope that he will bring a large supply of Rezko type of people to bail us all out.

Posted by: Obama-Yah-Wright | September 17, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm

Let’s not forget that it was only after Biden changed his mind about making bankruptcy harder on the consumer that the dems got behind that legislation. It was coincidential that his son got a big time job with the bank that was lobbying for the changes.

Posted by: Vince | September 17, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm

Harry Reid On Economic Woes: No One Knows What to Do

No one knows what to do.
Dont look for any legislation in the near future to address the financial crisis.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, asked today what new regulatory actions Congress can take, said, bluntly, N…

Posted by: Right Voices | September 17, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm

We have had the most unaccomplished Congress EVER and this is AFTER Democrats took house.
Get these guys out of here and don’t even think about getting Obama in there.
McCain has a history of GETTING THINGS done. Look at the shambles Chicago and Detroit is in because of socialist ideals that Obama is pushing!
Look at these resources and it will become obvious how dangerous Obama is:
http://online.wsj.com/public/article_print/SB122126282034130461.html
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/17/mccains-attempt-to-fix-fannie-mae-freddie-mac-in-2005/
http://mccainpalin2008.blogspot.com/2008/09/blame-democrats-for-this-crisis-and-one.html
-Paul
http://mccainpalin2008.blogspot.com

Posted by: Paul | September 17, 2008, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm

I’m sorry Senator Reid. There is someone that knows what to do. I remember just four short years ago we were encourged to let one Republican know they were on the wrong side and should run as a Democrat. Now he’s the boogeyman.
I also remember just three short years ago several articles that one man was trying to fight it. Trying to get in and investigate what was going on because the numbers weren’t adding up. I remember the Democrats fighting it tooth and nail. Doing anything they could to shoot it down.
That man is John McCain in both those scenerios. You know it, and I know it, and anyone that’s read a newspaper knows it. I’d be willing to bet that if ABC looked at their archives they’d know it also. Or perhaps they already did and didn’t want to add that into this article…Why?

Posted by: Diana | September 17, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm

I also remember just three short years ago several articles that one man was trying to fight it. Trying to get in and investigate what was going on because the numbers weren’t adding up. I remember the Democrats fighting it tooth and nail. Doing anything they could to shoot it down
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I suppose you mean three years ago when there was a REPUBLICAN controlled Congress?
Good point!

Posted by: Communication Breakdown | September 17, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm

Palin told FOX News’ Sean Hannity that it was “unfair” for Barack Obama to criticize McCain earlier in the week for saying “the fundamentals of our economy are strong.” She said McCain was clearly talking about the workforce.
“It was an unfair attack on the verbiage that Senator McCain chose to use, because … he means our workforce, he means the ingenuity of the American people,” Palin said. “And of course that is strong and that is the foundation of our economy. So that was an unfair attack there.”
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Sure McSame was REALLY talking about the glorious hard work ethic and ingenuity of the American people. And Palin was REALLY quoting Licoln when she mentioned “God’s war”.
Seriously, do people really buy this BS. It’s just so absurd it’s insulting.
If they had any sense, they’d of said McCain said that to calm fears and was trying to prevent a market crash.
But apparently, he was talking about the American work force. Uh…right.

Posted by: Palinisms - too silly to ignore | September 17, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm

Palin told FOX News’ Sean Hannity that it was “unfair” for Barack Obama to criticize McCain earlier in the week for saying “the fundamentals of our economy are strong.” She said McCain was clearly talking about the workforce.
“It was an unfair attack on the verbiage that Senator McCain chose to use, because … he means our workforce, he means the ingenuity of the American people,” Palin said. “And of course that is strong and that is the foundation of our economy. So that was an unfair attack there.”
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Sure McSame was REALLY talking about the glorious hard work ethic and ingenuity of the American people. And Palin was REALLY quoting Licoln when she mentioned “God’s war”.
Seriously, do people really buy this BS. It’s just so absurd it’s insulting.
If they had any sense, they’d of said McCain said that to calm fears and was trying to prevent a market crash.
But apparently, he was talking about the American work force. Uh…right.

Posted by: Palinisms - too silly to ignore | September 17, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm

I wish someone would sit down and explain the word “socialism” to Republican bloggers. Though they use the term EVERY election, they always look foolish and ignorant because they obviously have no clue as to what “socialism” really means.
And our economy is not a pure capitalist model. It is a mixture of private enterprise, controlled markets, and government interventions.
Quit waving psuedo patriotic flags and get a clue!

Posted by: Milton Freidman | September 17, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm

They Don’t know what to do? GOD help us.

Posted by: a reader in georgia | September 17, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm

When George Bush and the federal government have to take over AIG, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, there isn’t much that Republicans can say about “socialism” without conceding that the GOP “free market” system is broken. It’s not just broken, it’s been carpet-bombed and left for dead. Now we have another buying opportunity for the Chinese who, under Bush-McCain, now have a death grip on America. Just mail your next mortgage payment to China and thank the Republicans who led us all down this path. Fix America: Dump the GOP and their Wall Street Lobbyists.

Posted by: Steve from Danville | September 17, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm

Long after Palin is just a quirky footnote to the 2008 campaign, and McCain has retired to one of his nine houses, American taxpayers will be paying bill for the lack of executive oversight. Thank you, Republicans. As Reagan once said: When Republicans run the government, then “government is the problem.”

Posted by: Steve from Danville | September 17, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm

LMAO! I am having fun looking at the Democrats blaming the Republicans for the mess that we are. Yes, it was the republicans who engineered the deregulation of the financial sector, but they forgot to mention, as usual, that they bought into it. You people who want to blame the Republicans missed a very important point that was made in the article: “[T]they voted for an updated version of the bill in December of 1999 and President Clinton signed it. Reid and all but 7 Democrats in office at the time voted for the version of the bill that ultimately became law.” Now that we are in the mess, they claim that the deregulation isn’t the problem, but the lack of oversight by the Bush administration? I am no economist, but isn’t that what “deregulation” usually entail, fewer and simpler regulations coupled with minimal government oversight?

Posted by: Niko_in_Oakland | September 17, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm

America, I am NH Pragmatist because I can no longer call myself a “Republican” or a “conservative“. I am a “Pragmatist” and I ask you to join me! In my mind a “Pragmatist” is a person whom is “Pragmatic” and as such accepts the “FACTS” of reality. A Pragmatist in government must accept the fact that every human, by nature, is driven by a combination of both Good and Evil impulses. In the movie “Wall Street” we heard “Greed is Good” and in a way it is. Greed is the driving force behind the economy. It has always been human greed and ambition that was the driving force that has driven humanity to its greatest heights, and most crushing defeats. Greed and ambition will always be with us, and to deny that fact is to deny a fundamental reality of our collective natures. There is yet another fact we must also embrace, and that is “pride”. Yes “Pride” is a fundamental fact of human nature as well. When we embrace our “pride” in ourselves we logically hold ourselves above those we see as “different” and from that prism of elevated self worth emanates the rainbow of evils known as; class-ism, sexism, racism, religious prejudice, and nationalism. Yes that rainbow of hate and envy emanates from the fundamental human sin of “Pride”. Now lets look at the Conservatives and the Liberals. The Ancient Greek philosopher Aristotle once contemplated the nature of “Human Virtue”. He theorized that human virtue could not be found as existing in any pure state of being. What he realized was that “Virtue” could only be found as a relative state of balance between two opposing states of human vice! This is very important to understanding the role Government must play in the regulation of a free market economy! Getting to the “bottom line”, what this means is that economies will always fail, when they are subject to either the vice of over regulation, or the opposing vice of under regulation by their Governing bodies! That I believe is a “natural fact” that has its root cause in the very nature of human greed and ambition. As such, I believe the prevailing Republican governmental theory of “Deregulation” is the root cause of the present economic crash. Deregulation had in effect set the forces of greed and ambition free to run wild throughout all of Western Society. The result being periods of economic boom that expanded the economy without the benefit of a good foundation or skeletal structure to give structural integrity to the economic house of cards! Like the herbicide 2.4.D, “Deregulation” allowed the leaves to grow wildly while retarding the development of the root system necessary to support and maintain the additional foliage. As a result, just like how the plant poisoned by 2.4.D literally grows itself to death by depleting its nutrient supply, the economy that is poisoned by de-regulation, grows itself to death as it depletes its capital assets faster than capital can be generated! But what of “Liberalism” well “My friends” liberalism in its purest form is every bit as great a sin as is pure Conservatism for it represents the opposite extreme of the political pendulum swing. Liberals will over grow Government, and over regulate the private sector. In effect, over regulation denies the economy the freedom to grow by denying it light, water and the nutrients it needs to grow at the most robust though sustainable rate. What America needs is a hybridization of both Liberal and Conservative values. What America needs in all areas of Government, is a government body that will find, and then remain in that place of “Pragmatic Virtue”, which can only be found in that relative mean, between the two extremes of vice that we know as “Liberal” and “Conservative” values! You will not find that place through “Liberal Democrats” or “Conservative Republicans”! It will only be found in “honest” and thoughtful politicians that apply a “pragmatic approach” to governing. For the record labels are BS and as “individuals” we must think of “individual responsibility” but governments must not! Governments must “Regulate” to keep the society as a whole from descending into a state of total chaos. For the record I support Obama, but not because he is a Democrat, or because I see him as perfect, but rather because in his words I hear a man of “Pragmatism”. Unfortunately in McCain I hear something that is both dangerous, deceiving and empty!

Posted by: nh Pragmatist | September 17, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm

The American people know what to do, Reid, we can start by kicking all of you Dems right out the door!! Yesterday you idiots concocted a drilling bill knowing full well it was designed to fail….the experts have said that drilling within 50 miles has the most gas and can be gotten within a year…but you thugs decided to say 100miles and NOT share any royalties with the states…you stacked the deck and did not care if the American people are suffering with this gas crisis..no wonder your ratings are in the toilet! I have never, in my 69 years seen a Congress so inept and all of you should be put in jail for acts against the citizens of this country! All of you had better get ready, because you all will be out on the street…unfortunately not soon enough!!

Posted by: mfmros | September 17, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm

LOL, “No one knows what they are doing”, just perfect, should become this governments new theme. Funny isn’t it? Laughing until we die. They now mock us with statements such as this. We don’t need another rigged election with two candidates that work for the same thieves that brought this calamity upon us – we need a revolution!

Posted by: wtfrudoing | September 17, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm

Congress has authority over financial and budgetary matters, For the past 2 years that Democrats
have been leading the Congress. Things have been sour and the financial woes are
getting worse, simply Democrat Nancy Pelosi and Democrat Harry Reid were sleeping at the switch
and taking vacations while the rest of the country is financially going down the drain.
Last spring Nancy Pelosi forced congress in vacation and let the national security bill
expire risking our national security and last summer vacation Nancy Pelosi with out fail took a vacation while americans
where paying $4/gallon of gas. This is your Typical Liberal Democrat way of doing things
in Washington and this is the CHANGE that Obama wants, mind you these are Obama’s friends
who think alike and do things alike.

Posted by: 2nfer | September 17, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm

This is the fault of everyone who thinks that the government should be involved in the regulation of markets.
Let them go down in flames and then the revolution will begin.

Posted by: Terry | September 17, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm

I am shocked to see Reid not saying we need more regulations like Obama who won’t even think of trying to find out what went wrong.Obama and the Democrats need to stop saying every problem can be fixed by Washington and Reid will most likely deny he did not support more regulations as the only fix for the start.McCain ha the rigt solution to this problem 1)find out what went wrong,2)Find the right solution for the problem,3)Apply the correct and proper action that wil not only fix the problem but prevent it from occuring again.

Posted by: Jesse Tomblin | September 17, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm

McCain Warned of Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac Meltdown in 2006: Democrats Ignored Him
From the Congressional Record (May 25, 2006):
Mr. President, this week Fannie Mae’s regulator reported that the company’s quarterly reports of profit growth over the past few years were “illusions deliberately and systematically created” by the company’s senior management, which resulted in a $10.6 billion accounting scandal.
The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight’s report goes on to say that Fannie Mae employees deliberately and intentionally manipulated financial reports to hit earnings targets in order to trigger bonuses for senior executives. In the case of Franklin Raines, Fannie Mae’s former chief executive officer, OFHEO’s report shows that over half of Mr. Raines’ compensation for the 6 years through 2003 was directly tied to meeting earnings targets. The report of financial misconduct at Fannie Mae echoes the deeply troubling $5 billion profit restatement at Freddie Mac.
The OFHEO report also states that Fannie Mae used its political power to lobby Congress in an effort to interfere with the regulator’s examination of the company’s accounting problems. This report comes some weeks after Freddie Mac paid a record $3.8 million fine in a settlement with the Federal Election Commission and restated lobbying disclosure reports from 2004 to 2005. These are entities that have demonstrated over and over again that they are deeply in need of reform.
For years I have been concerned about the regulatory structure that governs Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac–known as Government-sponsored entities or GSEs–and the sheer magnitude of these companies and the role they play in the housing market. OFHEO’s report this week does nothing to ease these concerns. In fact, the report does quite the contrary. OFHEO’s report solidifies my view that the GSEs need to be reformed without delay.
I join as a cosponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole.
I urge my colleagues to support swift action on this GSE reform legislation.

Posted by: LightSeeker | September 17, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm

Clean the house, and the senate from these do nothing hacks. Term limits please!

Posted by: Timmy | September 17, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm

From Bush’s 2002 speech to HUD:
“And so, therefore, I’ve called — yesterday, I called upon the private sector to help us and help the home buyers. We need more capital in the private markets for first-time, low-income buyers. And I’m proud to report that Fannie Mae has heard the call and, as I understand, it’s about $440 billion over a period of time. They’ve used their influence to create that much capital available for the type of home buyer we’re talking about here. It’s in their charter; it now needs to be implemented. Freddie Mac is interested in helping. I appreciate both of those agencies providing the underpinnings of good capital.”

Posted by: Dan | September 17, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm

Posted by: Mark | Sep 17, 2008 9:40:00 PM
Wait a second….Dem’s have controlled the purse string (Congress) and the Senate for the past couple years. I would say the present day failure rests really damned heavy on them too!
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Let’s give Bonnie & Clyde the keys to the Bank!!!
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The current crisis is the direct consequence of the deregulation of America’s financial institutions.
This is a McCain policy, this is a Republican ideology.
Remember Reagonomics?
Deregulation + cut taxes + do not cut government programs =
A growing economy, more jobs, trickle down from the rich to the poor.
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In fact what we have is
Reagonomics
Deregulation + reduction of taxes + do not cut government programs =
1. The U.S. taxpayer is on the hook for billions in private debt held by banks that have gone bankrupt.
2. The U.S. taxpayer is on the hook for collapsing financial institutions.
3. The U.S. taxpayer is on the hook for paying hundreds of millions in interest payments on loans taken out from foreign countries.
4. The U.S economy is in hoc to foreign governments and sovereign funds.
5. The budget is in deficit, and will remain in deficit for decades to come.
5. 40 million Americans have no health insurance
5. Real wages in sharp decline, more than 600,000 jobs lost in the last year alone, record profits for private defense contractors (Halliburton, Blackwater), record profits for private healthcare and pharma companies, record profits for oil companies
6. Gas at more than $4.00 a gallon.
And BTW: When Bush, McCain, and other Republicans took over the government from Clinton – THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT WAS IN SURPLUS. A surplus that was to last until 2010!!!
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IT is the Republican party, and the Republican party alone that has driven us into this ditch.
Vote McCain/Palin?
That’s like giving Bonnie & Clyde the keys to the bank. LOL!
That’s like making Charlie Manson the prison warden.
That’s like making “Billy the Kid” the Sheriff of Dodge

Posted by: niccolo m@chiavelli | September 17, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm

Oh come on it’s all their fault and ours for allowing our government to perform like this. After all these senators and congressmen are suppose to be representing us the people.
If this was a business these over paid insured people would be fired. We need to stop acting like we are working for them and make them work for us.

Posted by: plh | September 17, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm

liberals are just doing what they always do lie now we pay later just like clinton and the cigar bar.why do you think clinton was called the first black PRESIDENT because he gave black people and white people houses they could not afford.my grass has weeds blame BUSH,my kids have to much homework blame BUSH,the moon is out blame BUSH,the cable is out blame BUSH,my dog just sh#@ on the lawn blame BUSH,The football game was great blame BUSH,coffee is over priced blame BUSH,and no i am not a redneck racist from GEORIGA.

Posted by: tony | September 17, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm

Timmy is right

Posted by: plh | September 17, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm

KEEP THIS ECONOMY STRONG DRINK BEER.

Posted by: tony | September 17, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm

What istruly sad is the money that has been spent in thepasttwo years on these campaign could have gone to feed house and cloth many people. It could have provided health care for children.

Posted by: plh | September 17, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm

WELL I GUESS BUSH JUST WANTED EVERYONE TO HAVE A HOME.JUST BLAME HIM FOR EVERYTHING IF THAT MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER.LIBERALS WHINE WHINE ABOUT ANYTHING WHEN THEY ARE NOT IN POWER.I GUESS NONE OF THIS WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF WE WOULD HAVE VOTED FOR KETCHUP BOY, WHO WOULD WE HAVE BLAMED THEN. I GUESS IT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE EASTER BUNNY.

Posted by: anthony | September 17, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm

Vladimir Ilyich Lenin reincarnated as Hussein Obama. The good old days are coming back.Those were the days my friend.As soon as Obama is president, he will introduce his 5 year plan.

Posted by: Karl | September 17, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm

Here is the problem. We have politicians running the country. Don’t think because a person has a law degree from Harvard (or Yale, Princeton, etc.) that he or she knows about economics or how to run a government entity and deal with budgeting, etc.
The smartest of the smart are making the big bucks and paying big lumps of money to politicians to do their bidding.
Obama has received loads more than McCain in money from these big investment firms (look it up folks) and what makes you think he won’t continue to do their bidding?
I’m for McCain and Palin, because I am confident that they will shake things up and make sure the people know the goings on of government.
Final note: If you don’t like what they’re all doing, then run for office yourself. If you don’t have time, desire, etc., then watch where you throw those rocks.

Posted by: Michelle | September 17, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm

One more note. If you think that the economy sucks, then quit giving all your hard-earned cash to Hollywood celebs, sports stars, and marketers of useless goods. Invest in solid infrastructure industries and tell Hollywood that you don’t need to get paid millions of dollars to shoot a movie for 8 weeks.

Posted by: Michelle | September 17, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm

America we are drowing and where are the true leaders with gut. How can Senator Reid even articulate such a dumb statement. I have a suggestion on what can be done in regard to Fannie and Freddie the Democrats who received the most contributions starting with Senator Dodd, Biden, Obam, Schumer, Clinton and Reid can write a big refund check to the American taxpayers. And all those Republicans who received similar contributions from Fannie and Freddie can do the same.

Posted by: Naydean | September 18, 2008, 12:53 am 12:53 am

Get Reid out of the majority leader of the Senate. This guys is completely incompetent. Get a mad dog Democrat in there to fight the Republicans and ram through some legislation to help Americans – dang it!

Posted by: Bob | September 18, 2008, 8:48 am 8:48 am

The Reid Pelosi circus doesn’t know what to do, that’s a revelation. The DO NOTHING democrats of the last two years have been the most ineffective congress I have ever seen. I can only wish I lived in the same state as these two incompetent so called lawmakers so I could vote them out.
Now imagine an Obama presidency leading these two idiots that don’t know what to do. Tell me again why these two are leaders in their party but, don’t know what to do. We are screwed in this nation with so called leaders like this.
And you want me to vote for the same party these idiots are part of!

Posted by: Independent minded | September 18, 2008, 8:49 am 8:49 am

Ron Paul knows what to do.

Posted by: Dary | September 18, 2008, 9:24 am 9:24 am

Hint to Harry:
Trot on over to the House of Reps and have Ron Paul give you a lesson or 12 in Austrian economics and the problem with central banks and our outrageous monetary “policy”.
Hint to the rest of you arguing over whether it’s the fault of the dems or the repubs, they’re ALL at fault for their complete lack of economic knowledge, their lack of intellectual curiosity, and for allowing the Federal Reserve Bank (which is neither federal nor a reserve) to continue to bankrupt this country through inflation, which created all these bubbles and devalued our dollar down to near-nothing.
Until they wake up and do something about the root of the problem, we’re on the fast track to a major depression.
I suggest you educate yourselves so you can at least understand the fraud that has been perpetrated upon We The People. Wake up before it’s too late!

Posted by: Ludwig Von Mises | September 18, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am

I guess Reid means the Big Business that employs millions upon millions of Americans, provides them with benefits, and pumps billions of dollars (although never enough to suit him) into government coffers. Yeah, THAT Big Business!
And when did it become the government’s job to shield ANYONE…..consumers OR businesses…..from the consequences of their OWN STUPIDITY? That’s called the Rationing Effect of The Market, which he would know if he had ever read a book on fundamental economic principles, instead of The Economic and Philosophic Manuscripts of 1844 or the Communist Manifesto.

Posted by: Rod | September 18, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm

and the dems are the one’s who appointed obama to run for the oval office, the other’s made their choice by themselves, and they don’t know what to do, hhmmmm!!! so i guess we need to elect another moron liberal to the white house so they can go on a bigger stage to tell the american people, WE DON’T KNOW WHAT TO DO! don’t forget, obama is still in the u.s. senate voting PRESENT, and their leader is saying their lost! the house speaker is telling the American people don’t blame us, for what? not knowing what to do! aleast the republicans knew that if the liberal’s gained control, that would happen! let’s all remember, that it’s the liberal democrats in control of the legislation PROGRESS to actually get things done, not the real democrats like joe lieberman! and who is joe voting for, McCain, thank you JOE! you see, joe know’s how stupid his colleague’s really are first hand! and the liberal’s want to elect another i don’t know what to do senator! obama is already lost out on his campaign trail. and what is this about reid saying to put a time line on this would be disasterous, you got to be freaking kidding me! what hypocrites! but what can we say about that, it’s in their nature to be judgemental moron’s not knowing what to do!

Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 18, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm

Pelosi, Reid, Rangel, Frank – Is anyone surprised they don’t know what to do? Did any of your cringe when you saw them take over? These people are self admitted morons (“We don’t know what to do”). Well, if you don’t know what do to, then how can you have oversight responsibility? How about you call your buddies in from Freddie, Fannie and AIG and get a crash course. These clowns are supposed to work for us and NOT WALK OFF OF THE JOB DURING AN MAJOR ECONOMIC CRISIS.

Posted by: Ziggy | September 18, 2008, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm

bob – the democrats have to stop electing liberal’s and start electing true blue democrats. thats the problem, they run as democrats and then legislate as liberal’s!

Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 18, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm

niccolo – and hand the keys over to who, liberals that are finally admiting to not knowing what to do. the blame game they always play we already knew about because they have already been saying that for some time! it’s just now that they are being verbal about not knowing what to do! we all knew that, but they would never admit it before, which makes them now what?! i know, idiot’s, stupid, morons, and last but not least, the truth finally proves them to be LIARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 18, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm

Lowering energy costs is a partisan issue? If that’s the case, the democrats may as well hang up their heels and run back to their districts behind Pelosi and Reid.
The democrats have already lost.

Posted by: Patricia_g | September 18, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm

Well, Palin figured out what to do in Alaska. Even if she just does to the oil companies nationwide what she did there, it will be a good start!
Obama is a placebo, a tool of Wall Street. He got a liberal record on issues like abortion, but on money issues he changes the fine print to favor big money.

Posted by: fsteele | September 18, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm

PS. For that matter, the Clintons probably know what to do. In the 90s they turned a giant deficit into a giant surplus. And who is more likely to listen to them — McCain who listened to Hillary about global warming, or arrogant Obama?

Posted by: fsteele | September 18, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm

If Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid doesn’t know what to do then maybe he needs to step down. Sitting on his hands isn’t helping those of us losing our 401K. Reid, what a joke.

Posted by: tlatexaspuma | September 18, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm

Yes, Reid should step down and give Senate Majority Leader to Hillary! There’s already a movement for that:
hrcforsenatemajorityleader09.com

Posted by: fsteele | September 18, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm

Is it funny how these politicans forget about the Bush 03 and 05 proprosal to regulate exactly what happened with fannie/freddie. Also Senate Repulbicans tried to introduce regulation to oversee these problems in 03,05 and 06. Check it out. Senator McCain was a co-sponser on all 3 bills. What reform has the Democrats ever proprosed or passed concerning Fannie/Freddie. Let’s have some facts!

Posted by: pat | September 18, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm

But the Obama people don’t like facts. They won’t bother to look up these facts.Give us the bills within the past 15 years where Democrats tried to regulate and solve some of these Fannie/Freddie problems. GIVE ME FACTS!
Not hyperboly.I faintly remember Clinton attempting something. But, only remember the 2000′s. Also remember Bush trying to do something about SSI but that was shut down also. Knowone including repulicans wanted to talk about it except a few Republicans like Ron Paul. Give us some facts here folks.

Posted by: rebecca | September 18, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm

A first step in solving the economic problem would be for Congress to stop trying to force banks to make loans to people based on affirmative action. Get out of business’ way and let them thrive.
And CEO’s convicted of crime should lose their golden parachutes.

Posted by: Michelle | September 18, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm

What to do? Phone Hillary.
It’s 3 a.m.
w w w . hrcforsenatemajorityleader09 . c o m

Posted by: fsteele | September 18, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm

very simple, vote the laws back in place to protect the investor they voted to remove a few yrs ago. And, support the laws or get a new job.

Posted by: Bill | September 18, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm

So much for Obama’s blatant attempt to
make political gains out of the
current economic downturn:
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, asked today what new regulatory actions Congress can take, said, bluntly, “No one knows what to do. We are in new territory here. This is a different game. We’re not here playing soccer, basketball or football, this is a new game and we’re going to have to figure out how to do it.”
The “one” doesn’t know what to do either! Obama’s solution is to trash
the President and John McCain
and try to scare people into a panic, possibly causing a depression!
Would Barack Obama be willing to destroy
our economy in order to be elected
president?

Posted by: reaganfan | September 18, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm

you all want some fact’s, well, here ya go! “DONT’ BLAME US, WE DON’T KNOW WHAT TO DO”. pelosi and reid gave us all what we need to know, lol!

Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 18, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm

So….how is it that we have Obama and Biden touting their experience and ability to deal with THE ECONOMY but Harry Reid thinks ‘we don’t know what to do’. My suggestion would be that these people of change and leadership get back to their Washington jobs and show us how to deal with this. Democrats have the majority – it isn’t like those pesky republicans will stop them from fully demonstrating their leadership……

Posted by: me | September 18, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm

Hillary knows what to do. She’s been warning about this stuff since at least last autumn.
Reid, step down and give the Senate Majority Leadership to this competent woman!
Senator Clinton urged the administration and the Congress to move quickly to adopt [her] proposals and prevent the crisis from worsening.
“Time is of the essence. Any delay could be ruinous for both financial institutions and confidence in our markets,” Senator Clinton said.

clinton.senate.gov/news/statements/details.cfm?id=303208&&

Posted by: fsteele | September 18, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm

And we’re supposed to elect Obama who is also clueless and give these guys full reign. No thanks, with McCain at least we’ll have a balance of power.

Posted by: rrow | September 18, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm

We have Barack Milhouse Obama who responds an issue is above his pay grade. No Michelle you are not cute at all.
We have Harry Reed who today doesn’t know what to do about our economy.
We have Nancy Leprosy who saved lots of trees by selling about 50 copies of her pathetic excuse of a book.
On the other side we have a war hero and a Governor who want to serve the people not have the people serve them. I prefer them. No brainer.
Obama Reed Pelosi get out of Washington you dumb dopes and find another country to mess up.

Posted by: thegr8 1 | September 18, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm

I know what we can do. Stop paying for public assistance and services for illegal immigrants and deport the illegals that are taking up space in our jails. We can’t afford to support this burden anymore since we have become so indepted in the last week. We could use that jail space for the executives that we, the tax payers, are bailing out. I think the tax burden on Californians is about $100 billion for public assistance/services for illegals. That’s about half of what it cost to bail out Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac…We have to cut expenses.

Posted by: cpietrus | September 19, 2008, 8:58 am 8:58 am

I hope they decide since they “don’t know what to do” that they will take taht as an indication THAT THEY SHOULD NOT DO ANYTHING. ESPECIALLY FORM ANOTHER FEDERAL INSTITUTION THEY CAN SCREW UP.

Posted by: Mike in Kennesaw | September 19, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am

Brilliant Reid, fist the war was lost and now you’ve fallen and can’t get up. Wake up America do you REALLY want this group of “don’t know what to do” clowns to remain in congress, let alone have a canidate for president who’s resume is more lacking for president than any in my lifetime. Bob

Posted by: Bob | September 19, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am

Who do they think they are kidding? Obama received contributions of about 120,000 from ordinary citizens who happened to work at Freddie and Fannie. Ordinary citizens have to right to contribute to election campaigns, no matter who they work for. Considering that he has received campaign contributions from almost 2 million Americans, and over 300 million in total, this is very little. On the other hand, McCain has received over 116,000 in contributions from the MANAGERS AND LOBBYISTS at Fannie and Freddie, to Obama’s 16,000. Which one is more to blame for the crisis? Why does McCain keep saying these huge lies- does he really think the truth will not come out? Does he really think we are all that stupid? Does he think if he says it loudly enough we will all believe it? What a farce. McCain has lost all credibility.
See
http://www.sctimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080920/NEWS01/109200014/1009

Posted by: katharine | September 20, 2008, 2:38 am 2:38 am

Whoa–this just hit me:
Obama Bi[nla]den
Ugh!

Posted by: april | September 22, 2008, 1:56 am 1:56 am

If the Democratic congress, Pelosi, and Reid spent as much time legislating, as they do playing partisan politics and making nasty accusations, our country would be in good shape.They both say that from now on, after we get the 750 Billion, we’ll make sure their is oversight! … then, they attach a multi-billion dollar pork bill for Acorn, to the bailout bill. Pelosi and Reid should be reminded that only 15% of the country give them a favorable rating. Conditions would rapidly improve in America, if Pelosi and Reid would step down, so we could replace them with legislators who represent most of the people … not just 15%.

Posted by: Gina | September 26, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm

Reid, Pelosi, Dodd, Frank, Kerry are lying traitors of the first order. Get as mad as you like, you know it is true. There are some others, but those will do. I would just as soon see the economy collapse before wanting to see them stay in their abusive power.

Posted by: John B | October 1, 2008, 3:56 am 3:56 am

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