Stephanopoulos: Pelosi Offers to Postpone Congress’ Adjournment to Address Economic Crisis

I listened and watch Hillary Clinton today why doesn’t anybody take this woman serious she knows what she is talking about for God sake, now she is in a position to do some good and the democrats are getting the blame for the whole nine yards. Her speech today in the senate hit on everything. Mr bird brain Bush should be impeached he has lied so much he wouldn’t know the truth if it bit him in the ass.

So we can either have an inept congress that favors the President in public and in private. Or an inept congress that claims to stand up to the President but refuses to execute it’s oversight in any matter whatsoever. Anybody feel like voting out the incumbents or voting for any other option locally and nationally? Nah, you wanna vote for the “winner” better re-elect these turkeys again. (Those who voted for Bush, what DID you win?) “Change” is always more risky that the current crop of ineptitude that carries a D or an R next to his/her name. And THEN you’ll complain as things get even worse. What’s the definition of doing the same thing over and over while expecting a different result, oh right INSANITY!!! The only thing more incompetent than our reps. in congress is the people that vote for them. But then again, the reps. know that already. Please WAKE UP!

Hold on, just a few weeks ago Poloser adjourned the congress and took a 5 week vacation to go on a book tour, now she wants to stay in session to provide more handouts.
Lets see when they went on vaction gas near my home was almost $4 a gallon, while they were on vacation it went back down to 3.50 and now they are back and today it is $4 again.
Poloser please don’t do us any favors it is way to painful.

Doesn’t matter Bush is not interested in working with anyone, but Republicans anyway. If they happen to get some legislation passed Bush would just veto it.

dl,
I demonstrated actual knowledge. But if ignorance is virtue, you have me beat!
PS. Did you catch McCain Lying about his Lies on “The View”. Americans are a fair minded people and smart enough to know the difference between teaching sex to kindergartners (a falsehood) and teaching them with “age appropriate” information (actual words from the bill) to protect themselves from predators!

And how do you expect us to pay for this Miss Pelosi?

Nancy Pee-Lousi is a self serving, ignorant wench. She only cares about herself and image. She is the scariest of all politicains, ugly biatch

I’m w/ Niko – what a joke. Where was Barney Fife, er Frank, who is in charge of Congressional oversight over Fannie/Freddie? And dems don’t want more oil at cheaper prices, so why should we pay so the northeast gets cheaper heating oil? The liberals they vote for put us into this mess. An inept Congress and the majority party created this situation, now they try to toss the blame everywhere else. Look in the mirror, Nancy, you’re the problem.

Nancy Pelosi has had seven to nine abortions depending on who’s information you believe. She is a true hypocrite. And an ugly ugly woman

don’t blame us, we don’t know what to do! quote of the day, thanks in part of mrs.pelosi and mr.reid. worst legislative congress in our history! what else do you expect from stupid monron’s! keep on putting blame on bush and the conservatives, but your democratic leader’s said it as best they could, if you get my point!

Here in Seattle… the Democrats Hard at work in their Machinists Union strike….30,000 employess on strike want to make 77,000 instead of the the 65,000 a year…Brilliant democrats will shut down Boeing and move the 30,000 jobs overseas… thank you democrats!! In a message to Boeing employees posted on the company Web site Saturday, lead negotiator Doug Kight said the employees’ decision on the contract — as they study the impact on their families — would come down to “kitchen-table economics.”Under the current contract, Machinists earn an average base pay of $54,000 a year, or $65,000 with overtime.The company offer would, by the end of the three-year contract, increase average base pay to $65,000, or $77,000 with overtime.The company sees a hefty compensation increase. Union leaders see less than they wanted in the wage and pension increases and some raised medical costs. All I can do is laugh when all the beer belly, smoking picketers are at the unemployment line crying about there loss of a job…….instead of standing on the sidewalk in front of there company with there signs screaming-look what Bush did to us. LOL aka Hypocrites

I have heard that Nancy Pelosi and Barbara Boxer are involved in a lesbian affair. They plan to divorce their current spouses and remnarry at SF City hall. Gavin Grusome will preside over the ceremony, they will honeymoon on Alcatraz island getting locked up in cells and practicing S&M

patricio – that’s not her real face, that’s plastic, which looks like a melt-down is accuring right before her own eyes, and who’s to blame for that! tell’s ya alot about decision making!
McCain/Palin 2008

Niko_in_Oakland I disagree. I think we need to put them in front of the House(on trial) to find out their complicity in Freddy and Fannie.

Nancy Pelosi
Being a Democrat I thought you may do some justice…I really had good feelings about you..BUT now that has all changed..you are a shame to the Democrat Party
You need to get your act together, and not worry about others..
Bottom line, shape up Pelosi

curtis41 – i could not have said it better myself, right on bro!

Remember a few months back when Russia tested a financial cyber-attack against one of their former states?
…you gotta wonder…

Just kidding – I’m not a Democrat and I never was. Hail Bush! Hail Rove! Hail FOX!

If Pro and Con are opposites… then what’s the opposite of Progress?

gradwrkout – pelosi? please! she’s the worst when it come’s to coming to the middle and working with republicans, let alone bush, please! have you seen any, i mean aaannnyyyy liberal’s come to the middle to fix the problem? i’d say nnnoooooo!!!

Didn’t these lazy bastards just come back from a 5 week vacation? WTF?!?! RIP USA…I knew you well once :-(

American Gun Rights
Another history-challenged fruitcake!

John McCain is right about one thing: The current financial crisis is “difficult to understand.” Judging by the opening paragraphs of the speech he delivered in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, today, on financial reform, we can include his speechwriters in the category of “those who fail to comprehend it.”
I know that the events unfolding can be difficult to understand for many Americans. The dominoes that we have seen fall this week began with the corruption and manipulation of our home loan system. The reason this crisis started was the abuses that took place within our home loan agencies, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and within our home loan system.
Wrong.
Ever since the government seizure of Fannie and Freddie, it has been a tenet of right-wing talking points to assert that that “the home loan agencies” are the root of the subprime mortgage crisis. Since Republicans have long wanted to privatize Fannie and Freddie, they are now eager to claim that by obstructing that privatization, the Democrats are the party responsible for the current crisis.
Except: Fannie and Freddie did not cause the subprime mortgage crisis. The private sector, acting on its own initiative, serenely confident in its own financial manipulations, spawned the greatest Wall Street conniption since the Great Depression. Fannie and Freddie got into the game late, after watching in dismay as their market share in the lucrative business of originating and selling off pools of mortgage-backed securities began to shrink.
There are many bit players in this drama who bear blame, from home-buyers to government regulators, but the two biggest culprits live on Wall Street.
First: The innovative financial products that allowed bankers to pool together risky loans into packages that could earn high enough credit ratings so as to be sold to investors who would normally deem risky loans made to people with bad credit, well, risky.
Second: The proliferation of credit derivatives that allowed financial players, banks, hedge funds, insurance companies, mortgage lenders, etc., to buy protection against the risk that those pools of mortgage-backed securities (and any other kind of bond) would default.
These two innovations dovetailed nicely, allowing Wall Street to gorge itself on risky bets, while comforting itself that all bases were covered.
There were people, like the former investment banker Frank Partnoy, who saw this as it was happening and warned of potential disaster. From my review of his 2003 book, “Infectious Greed”:
What does it all add up to? In a worst-case scenario: quite a bit of trouble. In the long run, “risk” is being sold off by people who know best how to evaluate it to people who don’t know what they’re in for. As government for the most part looks the other way, the stability of the financial markets is increasingly an illusion. In the last decade alone, the markets have come closer than most people realize to collapsing. Unless serious steps are taken to change the status quo, disaster could be imminent. We haven’t seen the last of the bubbles, by any stretch of the imagination. We seem, in fact, to be addicted to them.
Wall Street’s best, brightest and filthy richest scoffed at the critics. We were shouted down by those who told us that we just didn’t understand how modern finance worked — how these new products really made the whole global financial system safer, how risk was more widely distributed than ever before, making the chances of any one disastrous economic event bringing down the system, less than ever before.
And for awhile, I will concede, it did look like Wall Street had a pretty good case. Titans like Enron and Worldcom collapsed, and the world kept on chugging along. Sept. 11 shocked the markets, but did not appear to do serious damage. Derivatives markets flourished, and a lot of people made a lot of money.
But now we know that the critics were right, that instead of distributing risk more widely, we achieved the opposite. We have indisputable evidence that the edifice constructed out of state-of-the-art financial innovation was actually weaker and more prone to collapse than we ever imagined. Sure, it’s a complicated story to explain — but it is most definitely not a case of “corruption” or “abuses” at government-sponsored enterprises such as Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. What we have witnessed over the last 18 months is a self-inflicted wound delivered by the private sector unto itself, by people who were adamant that government should stay out of their business, because the private sector simply knew better.
Government regulators agreed. And I think we’re going to wait a long time before we get a complete explanation from John McCain on how this all happened, because it would have to include the role played by his friend and economic mentor (not to mention fellow deregulator!) Phil Gramm, who did so much to make sure that the credit derivative market remained unregulated.
If you are looking for an abuse of power, that’s where to start.

dl – please enlighten me as to where I got my history wrong, you loudmouth. Am I wrong that the GOP has been the party whose ideology relentlessly pushed deregulation of capital markets? Am I wrong that the GOP controlled Congress for 12 years previous to the Democrats’ winning it back in 2006? Am I wrong that the Dems have controlled Congress for less than two years? You wingnuts are entitled to your own opinions, but facts are non-negotiable. You dumbf-ck. LOL

Capitalism – common sense died when dumb Republicans started believing that the free market could magically regulate itself. The invisible hand of the free market is giving the GOP the finger right now. LOL

deanbob – You sound like another math-challenged Republican ideologue. You can’t try and tax those who are too poor to currently pay taxes, but the problem is that THEY DON’T HAVE ANY MONEY. The rich, on the other hand, have been living high on the hog thanks to GOP tax breaks and it’s time they paid the piper and stopped forcing the middle class to bear the brunt of the tax burden. Biden is right – these people have a patriotic duty to pay their taxes back to the system that helped make them rich in the first place.

Just go home Pelosi… u lead the house that does nothing. So why stay there and make it worse. I dont want you or anyone taking any credit since you dont want to take any of the blame. So get the heck out of town. PLEASE… if I lived in your district in CA, I’d be out campaigning for anyone going up against you!

american gun rights – do you forget that the first two year’s of clinton he did’nt work with the republican’s! he spent that time working with hillary on her failed health plan which was a waste of time! then he finally woke-up and worked with the republican’s on a budget that pissed the democrats off, by which they had no plan, imagine that! that also gave us a surplus towards the end of his term, and the democrats now say they and clinton created the surplus, what hypocrites!!! my point is, you can get things done by coming to the middle and working together, but only if you have the sides in power coming to together to get things done! that’s the problem with this congress, they don’t know what to do and they are trying to put the blame on the right just to win the election, they are not coming to the middle to fix the problem’s, what hypocrites! so if you bring your ignorance around people, we’ll just walk away, because slapping you will do nothing but get that stupid all over us, which is hard to get out as you just proved once again! Mccain/Palin 2008

Jeff – why do you claim that Pelosi’s house does nothing? They have passed lots of legislation since she took office. You really aren’t very informed.

Taylor Made — lmao… that is why she has a approval rating in the low teens!!! we all know that she is only there for herself!

Oh wait and her “Annointed” one in Obama… there was no way that she wanted the only real democratic candidate since she would no longer be the most powerful woman around!

deanbob – right on my patriotic bro!!

Wrong nice try… Ex democrat sick and tired of the far left liberal’s telling me as a middle of the road person what I need. Sorry that I dont believe a single word coming out of Obama’s mouth… If I want to buy a used car, I’d go talk to him… but I want someone to run a country! Sorry he aint it!

angela maldonado Can you share with us some of the (real) positive things Ms Pelosi has done since becoming speaker?

timmaa7 – um, that’s because there was a Democratic Congress for the first two years of Clinton’s Presidency. The GOP didn’t win control of Congress till 1996. It’s hard to take you Republicans very seriously when you can’t even get your basic facts right anymore.

leo fuld So. What is rich??? And you missed the point. Was Biden, indirectly, saying those who pay no taxes must be unpatriotic? Biden doesn’t get who the real patriots are (NOT THE TAXPAERS)!

I am generally disgusted by both parties. Neither the executive or legislative branches seem to understand their incumbent responsibilities under the constitution. The Bush administration has recklessly sought to expand executive power – their actions resulting in a number of foreign and domestic crises that we as taxpayers now will be forced to cover. Meanwhile, the “Do-Nothing” Congress has done little to limit this power grab but yet now claims to be the protector of the American family. My family is tired of the propaganda on both sides – we want responsible lawmaking by representatives who hold themselves accountable for their actions. This is how Washington can protect my family, our economy, and the spirit of the American republic system of government that has served us so well over more than two centuries.

The only one who ran for president who saw it coming and knows what he’s talking about…
“Ironically, by transferring the risk of a widespread mortgage default, the government increases the likelihood of a painful crash in the housing market,” Paul predicted. “This is because the special privileges granted to Fannie and Freddie have distorted the housing market by allowing them to attract capital they could not attract under pure market conditions. As a result, capital is diverted from its most productive use into housing. This reduces the efficacy of the entire market and thus reduces the standard of living of all Americans.
“Despite the long-term damage to the economy inflicted by the government’s interference in the housing market, the government’s policy of diverting capital to other uses creates a short-term boom in housing,” Paul went on. “Like all artificially created bubbles, the boom in housing prices cannot last forever. When housing prices fall, homeowners will experience difficulty as their equity is wiped out. Furthermore, the holders of the mortgage debt will also have a loss. These losses will be greater than they would have otherwise been had government policy not actively encouraged over-investment in housing.
“I hope today’s hearing sheds light on how special privileges granted to GSEs (government sponsored enterprises ) distort the housing market and endanger American taxpayers,” Paul concluded. “Congress should act to remove taxpayer support from the housing GSEs before the bubble bursts and taxpayers are once again forced to bail out investors who were misled by foolish government interference in the market.”
On the same day, Paul introduced the “Free Housing Market Enhancement Act.” The legislation would have removed government subsidies from the Federal National Mortgage Association (Fannie Mae), the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation (Freddie Mac), and the National Home Loan Bank Board. The bill had no cosponsors; it stalled in the committee process.
Sept. 10, 2003, U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, testified before House Financial Services Committee

Biden said the rich (what ever that nebulous liberal term is) should be more patriotic and pay more taxes. What word would he use addressing the 50% who essential pay NO Tax?
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Rich Republican oil barrons and defense contractors!
The ones who get tax breaks across the board because their tight with the “in crowd” of the GOP elite.
Thanks for asking!

GOP,
Good Point! Though 50% is high, it’s more like the top 5% who don’t pay a freakin dime!

one american – you forgot one more, dingy reid, lol!

This financial mess wasn’t caused by the republicans or the democrats. It was caused by immature brats running these financial institutions who acted like teenagers whose parents were away for the weekend. They took the power they had & used it for evil, instead of good – and they should pay for it. But it was also caused by people who felt they had to “keep up with the Jones’s” and buy more house than they could afford. It’s not the job of Congress or the President to FIX this. It’s the job of the American people to stand up, take responsibility for their own actions and also demand that these companies face the consequences of THEIR actions.

Truth Hurts the GOP The question was not WHO. Specifically, what is rich? What INCOME amounts and/or ASSET amount. Ie: If I have $1 and you have $100, you would seem rich to me.

dl, the last I heard there were three branches of government, Executive, Legislative and Judicial, what is the administrative? Is that Cheney’s office? I know he’s been trying to form his own, is that the name or could it be what the “decider” now calls his refusal to follow the laws of out land?

Biden said the rich (what ever that nebulous liberal term is) should be more patriotic and pay more taxes. What word would he use addressing the 50% who essential pay NO Tax?
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Rich Republican oil barrons and defense contractors!
The ones who get tax breaks across the board because their tight with the “in crowd” of the GOP elite.
Thanks for asking!
Posted by: Truth Hurts the GOP | Sep 18, 2008 8:24:40 PM
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Here’s a few more names to add:
Nancy Pelosi and husband (btw 25 and 156 million)
The Clintons (for Hillary alone 35 million)
The Obamas (in the low millions)
Ted Kennedy (between 43 and 163 million as of 2006)
Just to name a few
Hmmm, all these people are Democrats? Something must be wrong. I thought Democrats were poor, hardworking people as opposed to all Republicans who are rich and lazy.

democrat no more – that is the point, who do you think they are voting for, i wonder!!! now, people wanna talk about greed, in that situation i see it coming from the top to the bottom! McCain/Palin2008

Typical White Elephant: Don’t worry, when Obama wins the Presidency and both houses of congress become a majority of Democrats you’ll see all kinds of legislation passed!! Thank goodness most of it will be against the greedy conservative adgenda!

ellsbells: Where was that in Alaska?

Other then a short-term fix, with long-term and repeatable issues, how is bailing out these institutions a good thing?
Are the existing executives still going to receive their massive salaries and bonuses even though they have or nearly have ruined our economy?

jr – lol, your just like your moron liberal buddies! those statement’s came from your democrat controlled congress leader’s, pelosi and reid! now do you see how uninformed and untruthful you liberal dumycrats voters are. your really a perfect example of stupid gone wild! McCain/Palin 2008

Enough is Enough!
The Republicans ran Congress from 1997-2006 and the White House from 2001-2008.
Democrats took back control of Congress in 2007 (elected in 2006). Since regaining the majority, Republicans have blocked nearly every bill brought before the Senate using Filibusters to deny a floor vote or Veto to kill the bills.
Since the President runs the Executive Branch which controls the Treasury Department, Federal Reserve, Justice Department and the “Alphabet Soup” of Regulatory Agencies, blame for this disaster clearly lies with the Republican Party.
This financial meltdown is the end result of the legislation passed by Pres. Bush and a Republican-run Congress, that deregulated the markets so the rich could get obscenely rich. They turned a blind eye to corruption and fraud allowing Wall Street power brokers to rape the American public and walk away with millions.
Time for the Republicans to “own their failure” and step aside. You have failed the American People at every level. Not only are people losing their jobs and homes, but now Bush has stuck us with a $Trillion$ tax bill that we’ll be paying for decades.
Meanwhile, the CEO’s and executives that ran these institutions into the ground are ending-up with hundreds of millions our hard-earned dollars.
WHERE IS THE ACCOUNTABILITY! The Government should be stripping these criminals of their ill-gotten gains by ceasing their assets and putting them out on the streets. Instead, Republicans defend these monsters and cover their losses for them with corporate welfare.

jr – you really don’t disappoint me! that was a family inheritance you moron! let’s talk about how hard Cindy’s parents worked to be sucessful and give their kids a good life, what a selfish hypocrite you are! that’s the American dream being past downed, and may GOD have mercy on yours for talking bad about that family in a stupid uneducated way! and you stupid liberal’s get mad when someone talks in a negative way about obama’s, hypocrites! you get what you dish you idiot!

Some of you people are idiots! If you want to know what role each player has in this government….look it up! Your comments make some of you dummer than dumb! Do you know what the Congress does? It makes up the rules…like drilling…Congress says “no drilling or drilling only somewhere where there is no oil….the President does not have a say….next time, know what the hell you are talking about before you open your mouths!

dubiousvoter – how many times did the the democrats filibuster bill’s from 2001-2007, hhmmmm! why do you really think the republican’s filibusterd, hhmmmm! i really wonder, hhmmmm!

Biden said to day that Obama’s economic policy is to “take” from the so called rich, which in main are small business owners, and after the bureaucracy and Obama’s buddies get their cut, hand it over to the middle class so they can buy “toasters’ made in China. Obama’s economic policy will decimate American business and destroy American jobs, but maybe that is what Obama wants. After all, China will benefit big time when all the American jobs are lost to China.
Makes one wonder if Obama is getting a lot of his campaign contributions from China.

The other shoe is about to drop. Obama will win, this I’ve conceded, and when he wins, his ‘hackneyed’ economic policies will start the next great depression. It’s just like 1929 all over again. Personal debt is through the roof and we can spend our way back to proserity. When Obama starts ‘fixing’ the economy, watch the whole house of cards come crumbling down. It’s too late for any economic reform. Buy gold, guns and plenty of ammo and get ready to fend for yourselves.

First they will have to sober this dumb S** of a BIT** up to read him the letter and he has not been sober in 8 years. Good LUCK…

Is it Ground Hog Day Or something Bush came out of his hole for a brief moment. Six more weeks of turmoil and then it will be spring:)

My question is why are Obama’s culpable friends at Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae hiding out in his campaign untouched by media probing? Why are all of Obama’s dealings with Chicago’s shady politicians remaining off limits and protected by the press. In the mean time, they (the press) continue to focus on a small town Mayors hockey rink or a abusive trooper’s right to taser his step child or drive drunk in a state vehicle designed to protect the public. It seems that media has relegated their reporters to parsing words, splitting hairs and finding small town gossip to fill the airways. Our country is going down a path of secrecy and favoritism in journalism that is a road of no return. Someone needs to do some real investigative reporting on the corruption in the Obama campaign. We may never recover from an Obama presidency as free Americans. The time is now to stop this madness and have open and honest media coverage of ALL THE ISSUES AND ALL THE CANDIDATES, not just inconsequential made up smoke screens as we have been getting from the press this election year.

bob, Biden came out of his hole for a brief moment and told the world that Obama’s economic plan is to confiscate money from small business and turn it over to the bureaucrats and his Rezco type buddies. Once they get their cut, than whoever is on Obama’s most favored list will be tossed some coins so they can buy “toasters” made in China. Of course this will decimate American business and destroy jobs but China will be real happy with all the jobs Obama is tossing to them. Makes one wonder if one of Obama’s big campaign contributors is China.

How does anyone expect the government to rebuild the economy when they are the ones who destroyed it? In an attempt at what our government calls, “promoting demmocracy,” they have given away everything Americans have worked for to foreigners overseas. Look at United States, trade deficits and at the idiots sititng in the U.S. Trade Representative office. Look at U.S. Government employees overseas, ripping-off big housing allowances and TDY pay, while at the same time calling themselves “CIVIL SERVANTS.” Look at how our government pays overseas foreign employees an allownace to send their children to school while American children remain uneducated. We have no trade policy, or foreign policy. The CFTC got in bed with wall-street and supported high oil prices. Government agencies decided to become involved with oil companies and wall-street, instead of supporting the American worker. Our government spends money in Iraq, while the Iraq Government sits on Billions of Dollars. Our government spends 4 Billion Dollars a year in South Korea, while South Korean soldiers sit in a “SAFE AREA” in northern Iraq, goofing off, not providing combat support to the war effort in Iraq. The United States, is the only country on earth, ignoring its people and spending money to support foreigners. Children in places like Chicago, Detroit, and New York City, suffer while our nation provides food and clothing to Georgia, and to other foreign nations. Our citizens live in tents while Bush, Cheney, and Rice, run all over the world shouting “Human Rights and Democracy.” It’s time for CHANGE. McCain and this administration, aren’t part of the solution, they’re part of the problem.

Very Concerned Even though you may be correct, let’s not give up without a fight. Just keep the silver and gold buried or in a safe place(as the #1 contingency plan).

tim – right on brother! i think it’s dubious he ran away, you really are my long lost bro, lol.

DI I have the facts I see it every day. there ate more for sale signs than you can shake a stick at…..Typical white elephant MCBUSH said middle class yearly income is $5,000,000 so I guess over that is rich, I am retired with social security which they want to change and a pension not much is it so I guess I am way below the proverty level and with that pitiful income I try to help my family so they don’t have food vochers etc. Oh and by the way I still pay over 1/3 of my income in taxes.

bob, That’s your song man, Definition from Die.net. “An object of derision; a laughingstock.” The truth hurts does it not? Deal with it.

Tim in Vietnam he is known as The Nightingale. It means ‘night songstress’

McCain looks like death warmed over…He could go at any time and we will be screwed with this BIMBO from Alaska..

If you liberals think for one second the Dems care about
the middle class, here is the proof they don’t!
A package to protect the ENGINE of American economics
must be loaded down with giveaways to buy votes!
I say let them go home and have the President call them
back in EMERGENCY session with ONE item on the
agenda.

bob – i just had to doctor my comment’s for abc on my last post to publish my statement on your ignorance! once again, for the second time in my life, your the second vet i wish would have never seen the light of day back in the states! john kerry was the first! welcome to the club moron!

By the way he got broken up by hitting the plane when he ejected from it not from the Viet Cong. Good Night Tim
God Bless America

ellsbells930 What’s wrong with generic? I am happy just to have something. I appreciate being able to have the selection available, all of the time.

I am asking everyone to email a note to Senator Boxer who is the head of the Senate Ethics Committee to ask him to investigate Sen Obama breaking the Logan Act in his attempt to get Iraq to not withdrawl troops until he took office. This is a well known story with Iraqi saying he requested it. Here is the note I sent. you can put your name in place of mine at the bottom. Please make sure you include your name and state and county at the bottom. You can exclude pumapac if you desire. Please do a bcc or blind copy if you can to prowl@pumapac.org
The more people who do this the better chance we have of getting some action on this terrible act of treason and selfishness allowing people to maybe die in a war so he could be elected. Everyone is invited to come to blog.pumapac.org a place where the common person is trying to have his voice hear. A super friendly place. please pass this around to other blog sites that might attract people to join in this effort.
Senator@boxer.senate.gov
SUBJECT: Obama in violation of Logan Act!
9/19/08
PumaPac.org
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Dear Member of the Senate Ethics Committee,
I am writing to request that you open an investigation into the actions of Senator Barack Obama with regard to his July visit to Iraq. News reports, as well as the statements from Senator Obama’s own campaign, confirm that Senator Obama attempted to negotiate a plan for troop withdrawals and a framework for the American presence in Iraq in such a way as to benefit him politically. This is clearly an unethical way for a member of the United States Senate to act, using his status and leverage as a Senator and prominent candidate to undermine the Administration and to benefit his own political career. It also appears to be a direct violation of the Logan Act.
From the Logan Act:
“Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.”
I am a member of Puma PAC, People United Means Action (http://pumapac.org). We are the Voice of the Voters in the Democratic Party and we strongly oppose Senator Obama’s selection as our Party’s nominee. We believe he is an unethical politician, disloyal to the fundamental values of our democracy.
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The Liberal Democrats don’t care about oil prices as they fervently believe we can run this country on wind and solar anyway. Besides, why should we have more energy and prosperity than the people in Bangladesh?
And,they can just blame the oil companies and, of course, Bush, for the higher prices alone and leave it at that.
This is an unprecedented opportunity to get more centralized control over the economy.
I just can’t shake this nagging feeling that we’re being slowly driven towards Socialism starting with the New Deal policies under FDR…or maybe even earlier.

Seems to me that there is enough blame to go around. Democrats, Republicans, independents….whatever, have made an attempt to gain sole control with their idea of how this country should be run and they are all equally guilty of selling the american public down the drain with lobbiests buying power. Until we stop lobbying and money and gifts exchange, and somehow get a joint effort to listen to the American public, this will go on…and on…and on to infinity. This is not the america I remember of the second world war when there was a general single purpose by all people to gain a sole purpose. Goodby to the american democracy. It is up for sale.

i heard i can stop workin if obama wins and get that money, get lots of money from him an dont have to work for this old lady no mor is ready to sit for while to watch that opre sho.