By Kate Barrett

Sep 2, 2008 9:24am

Stephanopoulos: Three Questions Republicans Are Asking Themselves About Palin

ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos reports: Republicans were rocked yesterday by new revelations about Gov. Sarah Palin, R-Alaska, and are increasingly worried about what else they may not know about Sen. John McCain’s, R-Ariz., running mate.

Republican sources say three questions are being asked by delegates at the Republican Convention in St. Paul, Minn., and by party operatives around the country:

1) What else is out there about Palin?  Monday brought the announcement that Palin’s 17-year-old daughter is pregnant; news that Palin was once a member of the fringe Alaskan Independence Party; and the revelation that Palin’s husband was arrested for a DUI in the 1980s. The news about Palin has continued to come this morning, with the Washington Post reporting that Palin hired a lobbying firm during her time as the mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, to lobby for millions in earmarks for the small town.

2) Was the vetting process complete and professional?  Reports in Tuesday’s New York Times and Alaska Daily News both suggest the McCain campaign’s vetting of Palin was swift and superficial, although the McCain campaign continues to insist that Palin was thoroughly and professionally vetted.

3) And most significantly, what message will voters hear about McCain’s judgment that he chose someone to be his running mate who has almost no national security experience and who is so much of an unknown quantity?

As these questions continue to hang over Republicans, I’ll be asking McCain’s opponent for the presidency, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., for his perspective on these issues in an exclusive interview airing Sunday on "This Week."

User Comments

The MSM putting words in Republican mouths.

Posted by: geevill | September 2, 2008, 9:32 am 9:32 am

Palin’s husband got a DUI 22 years ago? Fine. go tell us about Obama’s drug use 22 years ago.

Posted by: geevill | September 2, 2008, 9:34 am 9:34 am

Just the tip of the iceberg. It speaks volumes to how McCain is so completely out of touch.
I’m not sure which scenario would be better for McCain: she was not vetted, or was – and still thought of as a good choice. Either way, not the best display of good judgment.

Posted by: Deep Release | September 2, 2008, 9:43 am 9:43 am

I can’t help wondering if McCain has changed his mind about wanting to be President, but can’t simply back out at this point. What better way to assure his loss than to select a running mate who is emminently unqualified to fill the job should something happen to him?

Posted by: Bob | September 2, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am

She will not survive the week as soon as the fringe group story hits the airways.

Posted by: jen | September 2, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am

Maybe Ann Coulter could give some sage advice on the issues?

Posted by: brianFL | September 2, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am

I’m glad that I am not a devoted Republican. But the faithful will not allow facts to deter them from the ticket. We have friends, names withheld, who although they are worried about their son after three tours in Iraq still worry more about whether the candidates are pro life. Go figure. I have never understood why people who in theory are against government want to use it to cram their views down the throats of others. This Republican Party I no longer recognize.

Posted by: bill | September 2, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am

McCain made a good choice for Obama. I almost feel like he is trying to lose this race. Like he knows how bad Washington is messed up and he really doesn’t want any part of it.

Posted by: beck | September 2, 2008, 9:47 am 9:47 am

geevil, McSame has not vetted seriously Miss Alaska at all, he was impressed by her beauty, few of her remarks and age and made his decision. Now the problem is that slowly but certainly media will do its work and carry our its national responsibility. This greatest nation on earth will not be between the hands of Miss Alaska and the old McCain, because they are not capable of taking care of it. God save America from McPaulin. God bless America and God bless Obama.OBAMA/BIDEN08

Posted by: BKMC | September 2, 2008, 9:47 am 9:47 am

Her daughter being pregnant or that Gov. Palin’s 5th child is actually her grandchild are not so much of an issue. The issue is why did she lie? She also voluntarily told the American people that she told the Congress “Thanks, but no thanks” with regard the Bridge to Nowhere only to be discovered from the Editor & Publisher that she did make the construction of bridge to nowhere her previous campaign cry and that she received money for that project which she later abandoned so she could use that same money to finance other projects. If you cannot be trusted with little things, how can you be trusted with bigger things?

Posted by: susie | September 2, 2008, 9:49 am 9:49 am

I am not a right-winger but I do think that Mrs. Palin should consider staying home to take care of her baby and her pregnant daughter who is going to need her full support in the coming months. I also do not think it’s fair for her to be putting her 17 year old daughter thru all this.

Posted by: pt | September 2, 2008, 9:50 am 9:50 am

Palin was obviously a poor choice.
She brings nothing to the ticket, has too many negatives and no real positives.
McCain only wanted her because she is a woman and was hoping Hillary suppporters would flock to him, and they are not.
It just shows how reckless and incompetent he really is… if he was a true maverick like he says he is, he would have gone with his first choice.
No way, No how to McCain/Palin

Posted by: lmg | September 2, 2008, 9:51 am 9:51 am

At least the McCain camp got a boost from Palin’s new press secretary Maria Bartiromo who just happened to be interviewing her in Alaska last week. Was NBC setup? Sounds like Rove

Posted by: tom | September 2, 2008, 9:52 am 9:52 am

Look, Cocaine addiction, Williams Ayers afffiliation, Rezko the felon-mortgage deal, Jeremiah Wright God Damned America, Sinclair the blow-job…Now, on the right-wing, the Palin’s drama. This is exciting and this is truly cut-throat politics! Cannot stand the heat, get the hell out of the kitchen. Let’s the game begins.

Posted by: mtr2311 | September 2, 2008, 9:55 am 9:55 am

Blowhard Joe Biden says
“if Barack grew up in our neighborhood like he did in Kansas being raised by his grandparents”
Obama never lived in Kansas.

Posted by: geevill | September 2, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am

McCain is an idiot and this VP pick will go downa s the worst in history. What does it say about the man’s judgement that he did not vet his VP pick? Even sales folks working at Walmart get vetted better than this clown, palin. Look at Rasmussen poll out this morning. McCain just handed the Presidency to Obama on a platter. What a loser.

Posted by: Kevin | September 2, 2008, 9:58 am 9:58 am

So much for John McCain’s judgment! It’s quite apparent that Sarah Palin’s vetting was minimal at best. Are these the best people that the Republican Party can put forward to lead our country? It’s definitely time for governmental change in the United States — it’s time for Obama/Biden! Howard Gallas, Reno, NV.

Posted by: Howard Gallas | September 2, 2008, 9:58 am 9:58 am

geevill | Sep 2, 2008 9:34:07 AM
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yes, and mccain’s adultery with cindy while STILL married to WIFE #1 which was also in the 80s

Posted by: johnosahon | September 2, 2008, 10:01 am 10:01 am

It’s 3:00 am and the telephone rings. Time for breastfeeding!!!!oh no, my daughter is having her baby.

Posted by: Liz | September 2, 2008, 10:02 am 10:02 am

The only constitutional duty that the VP has is to step in should something happen to the president. It’s even more important because McCain is 72, has had cancer etc. Palin does not meet that standard in any way, shape or form. Terrible pick. Plus she appears to be a drama queen, who is dominating the news day after day with negative stories. Stick a fork in McCain.

Posted by: hopesprings52 | September 2, 2008, 10:02 am 10:02 am

I am a conservative first, republican second.
As such, I am finding it harder and harder to support McCain. There were already troubles because of his “maverick” (which really means screw the GOP, I’m going liberal) tendencies such as McCain/Kennedy, McCain/Feingold, McCain/Lieberman. Note how those are very liberal Democrats he decides to team with.
But to find out that it was McCain’s intention all along to further stick it to the party by picking Lieberman or Ridge is just another straw on the conservative’s back. So he makes a rush choice of Palin and presented her as a conservative poster child to make folks like me happy. And now we see she is anything but that.
I will not vote for Obama because he is for all those things I listed that I am against. Plus, his tax policies (just as McCain’s initial opposition to the Bush tax cuts that greatly helped my situtation- and I am the definition of middle middle-class) are wrong for the country.
It is McCain that blew it. That and his little pit bull Huckabee during the primaries taking the conservative vote from Romney.
I call on the delegates at the RNC (and I was a county and state delegate) to not approve Palin. Not because of these “scandals”, but because we need to hold McCain’s feet to the conservative fire or he will either lose in November or he will ruin the party for years to come.

Posted by: Political Dean | September 2, 2008, 10:02 am 10:02 am

McCain screwd up BIG time.

Posted by: Vanessa | September 2, 2008, 10:03 am 10:03 am

I’m shocked by McCain’s choice. Is this the best VP candidate out there? I don’t think so. So, why did he choose her? I’ve heard that McCain he did so because she is a reformer. That he sees her as a duplicate of himself. If his plan is to reform Congress, how does he intend to do that? Is it through a line item veto privilege? How does he intend to “change” the Republican and Democratic Congress? Perhaps if we could get some coverage about that instead of Palin’s pregnant daughter.

Posted by: Shannon | September 2, 2008, 10:03 am 10:03 am

It is about time that msm finally ask real,legitimate, non-superficial questions about McCain’s campaign, after many,many gaffes, after many, many cover-ups, after many, many lies that were evident. John McCain does not have the executive judgment to be President.
When you review some of the qualifications of the President below, even a illiterate, blind and cross-eyed wilderbeast will know that in some of the major categories, JOHN MCCAIN lacks:
Desirable knowledge, skills, and abilities
The ideal candidate will demonstrate expertise in leadership, public service, management, international relations, and national security. He or she will also bring personal integrity, a strong sense of ethics, and the wisdom to exercise good judgment in times of uncertainty.
Leadership
The ideal candidate will have:
* A vision that inspires citizens and nations – and the ability to articulate that vision. Exceptional communication skills are required.
* The ability to attract and develop a strong team of advisors
* An aptitude for building coalitions and negotiating compromises, across parties and among nations
* The facility to assess complex situations, envision alternative outcomes, and make wise decisions
Public service
* A demonstrated commitment to public service, with clear dedication to the democratic ideals set forth in the constitution
* A deep understanding of government processes, preferably acquired through senior-level government experience
* Clear priorities and well-informed positions on national issues
Management
* Executive-level skills in strategic planning, team building, and budget management
* Experience leading a complex organisation that delivers large-scale programmes and services
* An in-depth understanding of economics; proficiency in constitutional law
More tools and resources for US voters and non-citizens alike:
US Electoral College – the office of the US National Archives and Records Administration contains material on election history, voting systems, guides for election officials and resources for teachers
Project Vote Smart – a non-partisan, non-profit US political research organisation; its 2008 presidential candidates section provides information on candidate backgrounds, issue positions, voting records, and campaign finances
ChooseYour Candidate – from the Washington Post, an interactive quiz that compares the individual’s views on national issues with those of the top presidential candidates
Core Documents of US Democracy- from the US government printing office, an archive of texts of current and historical government documents, including the US constitution
PublicAgenda – a non-partisan, non-profit organisation that provides detailed issue guides to help citizens “know more about critical policy issues so they can make thoughtful, informed decisions”
The Savvy Voter- from the Public Broadcasting System (PBS), an election guide that includes information on how to dissect an ad, analyse a poll, evaluate a platform, assess a website, and view news critically.International relations
* An exceptional talent for diplomacy. The president must be able to foster relationships and influence positive outcomes in international affairs
* Expertise in foreign policy and knowledge of alternative approaches to governance
* A well-grounded view of America’s role in an interdependent world
National security
* A full knowledge of the structure and capabilities of the US armed forces
* Direct experience of the reality of war and military power, often demonstrated through personal military service; and of the requirements and mechanics of intelligence as a means of protecting the country and its people
Personal qualities
Finally, the candidate must have the physical stamina, strength of character, and emotional resiliency to meet the demands of a high-pressure job that could affect the stability of the country, the balance of world power, and the quality of life of millions of people for generations to come.

Posted by: ITS ABOUT TIME | September 2, 2008, 10:03 am 10:03 am

McCain has just given up the experience argument. They look ridiculous saying that she defended our borders against Russia. Even taking away Obama’s State Legislature and US Senate experience, he has shown that he has been able to run a tight ship in his Presidential race for a longer period of time than Pallin was Governor.

Posted by: awmahn | September 2, 2008, 10:04 am 10:04 am

Personal details are insignificant except they give a mirror into the subject. Obama honetly wrote about his past indiscretions – showing it’s better to preemptive if you’re not a Republican. This goes to McCain’s Judgment – his motto is Country First – yet Palin belonged to a secession group; McCain’s against earmarks yet Palin lobbied for them – but now claims she’s against them — more of the same — yes. I don’t care that her daughter is pregnant – but I do care she and McCain want to make that decision for other woman young and old. Interesting how Republicans lectures minorities on unwanted pregnancies and how they are bad parents — yet the conservatives view the Palin situation as something to celebrate?

Posted by: Auntie Cairo | September 2, 2008, 10:04 am 10:04 am

At least dan quayle should be happy, since he will no longer be the “worst-vp-pick” ever.

Posted by: pt | September 2, 2008, 10:05 am 10:05 am

Someone need to review ABC’s tape of the “Hookers N’ Blow” party at the RNC. I swear that I can see Sarah Palin on stage in the background at approximately -1:02 in the video. But I guess that would be of no surprise to anyone, much less the republiCONS.

Posted by: mikexxxx | September 2, 2008, 10:06 am 10:06 am

The double standard here is UNBELIEVEABLE… Edwards fathers a love child and nobody says anything and a 17 yr old girl is pregnant and soon to be married and it’s the end of the world and John McCain? Not to mention Clinton/Cigars/Interns/Lies in the White House and “that’s his business not ours” You Liberals are an IN-CREDIBLE group.Use your brain and TRY to think outside the liberal media box for once! WOW!

Posted by: Cher FL | September 2, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am

McCain has also just given up the “Country First” argument. They look ridiculous saying that she is the best choice for the country. No one in their right mind thinks that Pallin was picked as the most qualified person to run the country. She was picked because she was in lock step with the religious right, and she is a woman. I hate Lieberman and Ridge, but even I would not make the claim that picking them would be picking someone that was unqualified.
What argument is he left with?
POW POW POW POW. Does he really think that we will elect someone because of something heroic that happened 40 years ago? I pray not.

Posted by: awmahn | September 2, 2008, 10:08 am 10:08 am

Even as an Obama supporter, the news that Palin’s husband got a DUI a million years ago is pointless and shouldnt make any headlines at all. Its a non-issue, even moreso with all the other material we are reading.
I am stunned however, that McCain supporters cant just say “wow what is he doing”. If Obama picked a Palin-equivilent, I would be pissed and qould question him big time.

Posted by: Corey | September 2, 2008, 10:08 am 10:08 am

The news media are saying that Biden will have to be soft on her or we would see him as picking on a woman… I am a woman, I think he needs to be Biden and let them debate… If she can’t take the heat then she needs to get out of the kitchen…

Posted by: beck | September 2, 2008, 10:08 am 10:08 am

If McCain’s camp did not not do a thorough vetting of Palin shame on them. If McCain’s camp did do a thorough vetting of Palin and still moved forward with this abysmal pick, also shame on them. I don’t know which position is worse.

Posted by: hopesprings52 | September 2, 2008, 10:09 am 10:09 am

Where are the exposes on Obama’s ties to Tony Rezko and his other friend Ayers, the terrorist? Is this another case of selective amnesia?

Posted by: Joaquin B | September 2, 2008, 10:09 am 10:09 am

Where are the reports od Biden’s son the lobbyist and of Biden’s ties to the financial mess we are going through?

Posted by: Joaquin B | September 2, 2008, 10:10 am 10:10 am

Cher FL: not sure but you are out of touch right along with McCain… Edwards career has ended or did not see that part?

Posted by: beck | September 2, 2008, 10:10 am 10:10 am

That’s because Palin is a great pick. her record is outstanding. She fought corruption where Obama bathed in it. Palin is not anti-American like Obama and his associates.

Posted by: geevill | September 2, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am

George really needs to ask about the ethics of earmarking a cool $1 mil for the employer who gave the “honorable” freshman Senator’s wife a 260% salary raise soon after he was elected to the US Senate.

Posted by: d0 | September 2, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am

Well there we go again. Those on their high and mighty horses, as recently as yesterday, saying that teen pregnancy is a social disease brought on by a myriad of issues that the democrats don’t just seem to see as a problem. Now look at what they are saying: Governor Palin’s family is like any other family and should be supported. Hello, one day you are saying that the right way to support a family is to be there with your children, support abstinence education, and act the “Christian Way”. The next day, OH! it’s OK to have a 14 year old date a 23 year old, a 17 year can get pregnant, a 16 year old who can get birth control (with her mother at her side?), a mother that can return to work within 3 days of giving birth to a beautiful, but challenged child, and a husband that can continue to be, pretty much, a unengaged, not too interested or non-supportive fatherLet’s look at the Republicans, while it is OK to be critical, don’t throw stones when you yourselves live in glass houses. Let;s name a few folks over the last year or so with some problems, and then the Republicans, can sit back and allow at least 30 Democrats the right to misbehave, without recourse:Vitter, Craig, Stevens, 2 sex perverts and 1 crook to name a few. If you want to stand the higher moral ground, then clean your own closets first. And yes Larry Craig is still in there, or so he believes!Palin is as unqualified as any one could be. Children that have no moral guidance (or if they did, they had lousy teachers, another reason she is a bad pick), a working mother that cares only for her job (3 days after giving birth she is back at work), a disengaged husband, a supporter of “Pork” (just ask the town of Wasilla how much return they got for the lobbiest they paid for – It was millions, not to mention her support for the “Bridge to Nowhere”, which she stilll supports but in a less expensive mode. Flip flopper, she is, as she has changed her position on several things as she has risen to the rank of Governor of a pretty backward state. What is McCain thinking, 3 electoral votes? Women’s votes? Yeah his senility is showing, Mike Huckabee or Mitt Romney would have been much better picks and they bring along many more states. The candidate for the Republicans has made a poor choice, and I for one, will not vote for a small town/time local politician who has never had a national leadership job, probably can not spell Darfur or Chechnya, let alone even been oversaes vacationing, where she shops at the local dock to pick up dinner off the boat. What in the world does Palin know about biofuels and the impact on food availability, the financial markets and where they are located, let alone how they are run and what impact there is on just the tiniest things happening, etc. Prove to me that she has a global knowledge and can show us where Tbilisi is located and what concern Russia has there, then I might think to vote for the Republicans. NO I THINK NOT. Someone needs to be gentle and tell her to go home for the good of the country.
bischo4 5:27 PM

Posted by: bischo4 | September 2, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am

Do you think McCain would have chosen Palin if she was male? This should be about qualifications, not gender. She’s a terrible choice for the second in command.

Posted by: Judy | September 2, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am

Blah, Blah, Blah.
Talk about the issues not this crap.

Posted by: Mark | September 2, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am

But after 172 days in the senate Obama is totally ready to lead as president?? 1 1/2 yrs as Governor is too inexperienced to be VICE President?? I don’t see why this is even an issue??

Posted by: Brian | September 2, 2008, 10:12 am 10:12 am

3 Big Red Flags even before you even look at her ideology and her lack of experience on national and international issues.
1.) Palin is under investigation for what amounts to an abuse of power, i.e. using her political office to conduct a personal vendetta. She was caught lying about her office’s involvement.
2.) Palin lied in her introduction to the country about her opposition to earmarks and particularly the “bridge to nowhere.”
3.) Palin was a member of a fringe political party that thinks Alaska should secede from the United States and whose founders don’t consider themselves Americans.
All this brings into relief McCain’s poor judgment. Palin was definitely not a “country first” choice.

Posted by: Ed | September 2, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am

McCain shows incompetence and poor judgment on his choice of VP. Palin is just as corrupt as the good old boys in Washington. No change there. I think the issue of her daughter’s pregnancy is serious. Why didn’t she talk to her child about this issue. I guess she was too busy with other issues as building a multi-million dollar bridge to nowhere land than to take care of her own family.

Posted by: Angie | September 2, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am

Why is it only Obhama supporters have a problem with Palin? If she was such a bad pick why the fear in your posts?

Posted by: geevill | September 2, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am

So Todd had a DUI 20 years ago. That is not a problem, the problem is he has used the Governors office as if it was his. See the Toopergate and he used it to fire another who was dating an ex wife of a friend of his.

Posted by: Thinking | September 2, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am

the real vetting process we should be concerned about is Dem Choice for President 08 Hussien Obama– we are not even sure whether he qualifies to run for the President. Is a natural US Citizen?? As a kid he had Indonesian citizenship. His ties to the CHicago underworld and anti American preachers.
The media is silent, why??
Dems , you lost the 08 by railroding the hillary Hillary, Dont railroad another WOMAN.

Posted by: vic | September 2, 2008, 10:15 am 10:15 am

After McCain picked Palin, i sent a text to my brother saying: HERE WE GO! This was a clsoe race that i predicted would be decided when one party made a big mistake. When he picked Palin, McCain didn’t just make a big mistake, he made a devastatingly stupid mistake. A grave mistake. He might survive this. But he’ll need Palin to be as skilled as Obama to have a shot. Now we’ll see what she is made of. People think what Obama has done was easy. It’s not. For a greenhorn to face the press and all their questions aday after day and not be a gaffe machine is very difficult. Palin will now be put to the test. let’s see how she responds.

Posted by: Kevin | September 2, 2008, 10:15 am 10:15 am

What a horrable parent I hope her kids are ok.

Posted by: Joe | September 2, 2008, 10:15 am 10:15 am

Pallin’s husband’s DUI 22 years ago is not important. John McCain’s judgment now is. It appears he made this decision with little thought, inadequate homework, and not according to the hight standards he himself set. What good is all that experience if it is in the hands of an irrational person? It is becoming more and more apparent that John McCain is the risky choice in this election.

Posted by: DMR | September 2, 2008, 10:15 am 10:15 am

Judy, If we were to follow your logic, what does that say of the democrats? They’ve selected someone who has no executive experience. A “community organizer” (?).

Posted by: Joaquin B | September 2, 2008, 10:16 am 10:16 am

Psa 26:4 I did not sit with liars, and I will not be found among hypocrites.
These so called evangelicals who are really political cronies hiding behind the cloth love the Republican Party more than they love God. They don’t have any family values. But we all know if that were Michelle Obama’s or Hillary Clinton’s pregnant teenage daughter Tony Perkins and others would be pointing a finger at them and saying what a poor example they are setting. They would be raking these mothers across the hotest of coals.
As a born again, bible-toting Christian, I’m offended by these hypocrites

Posted by: mary | September 2, 2008, 10:17 am 10:17 am

Months ago when I told a frind of mine that I supported Obama for president he told me that the stars will have to all line up for such a thing to happen. I think that McCain’s VP choice was the final star moving into place.

Posted by: JR | September 2, 2008, 10:17 am 10:17 am

HA! What hard questions has Obama had to face? “Are U friends with Jeramiah Wright?” “No, I hardly know him” “Oh, OK sorry I brought it up”

Posted by: Cher FL | September 2, 2008, 10:19 am 10:19 am

Excuse me! I have failed to realize that Obama’s judgement is wise ad infinitum. Rezko, Wright and Ayers are merely distractions brought up to interfere with his divine plan to achieve socialist utopia. Hail the Obamessiah!!!

Posted by: Joaquin B | September 2, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am

Mostly what bothers me is Palin’s membership in the anti-American (and downright treasonous) Alaska Independence Party.
http://www.akip.org/goal.html
GOAL
Until we as Alaskans receive our Ultimate Goal, the AIP will continue to strive to make Alaska a better place to live with less government interference in our everyday lives.
The Alaskan Independence Party’s goal is the vote we were entitled to in 1958, one choice from among the following four alternatives:
1) Remain a Territory.
2) Become a separate and Independent Nation.
3) Accept Commonwealth status.
4) Become a State.

Posted by: johnTX | September 2, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am

While I am not crazy about the idea of Palin belonging to a separatist party…..it was a way for her to express her opinion(remeber freedom of speech i think it’s in that document located at the archives building in dc)…possibly she feels alaska gives more than it gets….possibly she was tired of panty waste liberals telling her they could drill ANWR…..she’s got more balls than Barak and Biden put together…..

Posted by: dave | September 2, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am

if palin is the best that repubs have to offer—–I SURE AS HELL DONT WANT TO SEE THE WORST.–MCCAIN HIT A HOMER ON THIS ONE—WHAT GREAT LEADERSHIP AND JUDGEMENT.
MCCAIN FOR TOWN CLOWN

Posted by: rodney | September 2, 2008, 10:22 am 10:22 am

The penultimate question is:
“Would Sarah Palin shoot a pregnant moose, gut it and grind the fetus meat into hamburger, grill and eat it?”
That will be the defining question for her to answer.
“Sarah pales in comparison” will be the headline following her debate with Joe Biden.
Sheesh!

Posted by: Keith | September 2, 2008, 10:22 am 10:22 am

geevill,
You’re an order of magnitude more afraid of Obama than Obama’s supporters are afraid of Palin.

Posted by: samurai | September 2, 2008, 10:22 am 10:22 am

McJoke has sunk his own ship with his unvetted pick of unprepared, ethically-challenged, baby-story-covering-up Sarah Palin.
Where are the doctors to answer the questions about her son/grandson?
Are there any doctors willing to vouch for Bristol’s current pregnancy?
I SMELL SMOKE.

Posted by: 08AMA ALL THE WAY! | September 2, 2008, 10:23 am 10:23 am

JohnTX: AMEN to that!

Posted by: Cher FL | September 2, 2008, 10:23 am 10:23 am

Every sane American should be afraid of Obama and his plans.

Posted by: Joaquin B | September 2, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am

It’s hilarious reading these posts trying to defend Palin as a “good” choice. There’s no defense…only people trying to redirect the converstion.
She was picked based on gender. That’s it! Obviously it was a transparent attempt to try and get Hillary supporters. Certainly it wasn’t because of experience, history, or ability.
And Palin’s misuse of her power to try and get someone fired because he divorsed her sister…sounds like a repeat of the Bush Administration firing people who disagreed with them. Are lying and the abuse of power the staple Republican ideologies now?
I pick McCain as the Democratic MVP! No way this guy should be President. He’s making it easy. The GOP is glad they had hurricane to delay the convention. It bought some time and are scambling to spin all the negative stories.
Geevil, we know about Obama. We know nothing about Palin – and what we do know is all bad. McLame has once again proven he (Mr bottom 1% of his class) has no business trying to govern the most complex nation in the world. He may have been a POW (which he’s milked for 30 years), but he’s no leader.

Posted by: Thanks Johnny Maverick! | September 2, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am

How can we trust Palin who was part of a group whose motto is “Alaska First, Alaska First” and who has a policy talking about how they should infiltrate national parties in order to achieve their goal of seceding from the United States?

Posted by: johnTX | September 2, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am

Liz there is no other way for me to say this, you are a simple stupid bitch, and it’s comments like that and people like you that will cost the Democratic Ticket this November. Keep it up people the world is watching.

Posted by: Kim | September 2, 2008, 10:25 am 10:25 am

The denial of the Republicans is comical. This was the worst VP pick possible. What is true about Palin does not matter. This is about the lack of Judgment by shoot from the hip playboy “country club kid” McCain. If this is the best reformer the Republicans have, sad!

Posted by: Perspective | September 2, 2008, 10:25 am 10:25 am

what does palin’s daughter have to do with her politics? There is no way that mccain didnt know her daughter was pregnant. Are you serious? All you have to do is look at her. also, even if he didnt know, dont you think palin told him? do you really think mccain and palin were not on the same page about this?

Posted by: matt | September 2, 2008, 10:26 am 10:26 am

It’s too bad that now the conservatives have someone to rally support for, the liberal press and Dem’s have to come up with as much “dirt” as they can. Even though its not relevant or truthful. You know that now your in trouble, and can’t deal with it. What would be better, a president – Obama, or vice president – Palin with limited experience?

Posted by: John L | September 2, 2008, 10:27 am 10:27 am

geevill,
You’re an order of magnitude more afraid of Obama
Damn right. Every true American is terrified of that lowlife getting anywhere near the Whitehouse

Posted by: geevill | September 2, 2008, 10:27 am 10:27 am

Democrats have to prove they’re “patriotic”- because they are Democrats who want to change they way our faltering government operates.
Republicans claim it’s obvious they love America because they say word “patriotism” and “freedom” in all their speeches. They may think they love America, but they hate 50% of the people living here.
No thanks! We’ll take the change!

Posted by: Go Obama! | September 2, 2008, 10:27 am 10:27 am

As a proud independent voter single-issue candidates do not move me. The sooner these political parties learn this the better.
This choice appears to be based on a pro-life candidate who is young. I do not care if you are 70 or 40, but your choice for VP of the United States Of America should bring more than political base enthusiasm to your ticket.
I find it hard to accept that there was no better choice in the Republican Party than Governor Palin. What does this say about the Republican Party these days?
At this moment it going to take a miracle to move me to vote for their ticket. In 2000 I change registrations for a day just to vote for McCain, but sadly eight years later I no longer see him as the voice for change.

Posted by: Reader | September 2, 2008, 10:28 am 10:28 am

IF WRIGHT AND REZKQ ARE THE BEST YOU CAN GET AGAINST OBAMA—YOU ARE VERY WEAK INDEED —-LETS START WITH MCCAIN IN NAVAL AIR ACADAMY—AND HOW HE GOT THERE.

Posted by: rodney | September 2, 2008, 10:28 am 10:28 am

Hold on a second – aren’t DEMOCRATS always saying that their the party of people who understand teen pregnancy, drug use, free-will, people shouldn’t be overly scrutinized when they make a poor life decision blah, blah…yet when it’s a Republican who faces the same issue, all of sudden the DEMS find some kind of moral pulpit to bully from – to all DEMS – you can’t have both sides…oh wait, yes you can, and always have.

Posted by: J | September 2, 2008, 10:29 am 10:29 am

John L, I prefer the guy who taught constitutional law for 10 years and managed to properly vet his running mate.
Since the President appoints 6,000 people to office, I’d like them to be smart, hard working and not anti-American secessionists. Thanks.

Posted by: johnTX | September 2, 2008, 10:30 am 10:30 am

bill,
It is unbelievable to me that McCain, a man with so much experience showed such a lack of judgement in selecting Palin. It is obvious she was not vetted properly. It is obvious she has foreign policy experience. She supposedly is known a crusader. While, I don’t think she has the track to determine that I will grant her that title…So, now what? What policies will this crusader help promote? More drilling offshore and Alaska? Turning back Roe vs. Wade? Continued support for the Iraq war with no end in sight?
What are her positions on anything….And, oh by the way….How do staunch conversatives reconcile the fact that this woman is travelling the country campaigning while have a special needs infant at home under the care of others? Isn’t this what conservatives have railing about these last several years? That woman need to stay home with their children in order for those children to properly raised. I remember the outcry again the Edwardses for bringing their children on the campaign with them. But of course conservative hypocrisy knows no bounds..

Posted by: indy_voter | September 2, 2008, 10:30 am 10:30 am

“Every true American is terrified of that lowlife getting anywhere near the Whitehouse”
In your dreams pal.

Posted by: samurai | September 2, 2008, 10:30 am 10:30 am

and the murders and Lansky mafia connection to the budweiser empire..now we knoiw from what Jewish group McCain gets his support.

Posted by: enn | September 2, 2008, 10:30 am 10:30 am

Simple as this – we’re voting for Obama in my house now. Sarah Palin is as far from commander in chief and any woman could possibly be. I AM more qualified! I was a Hillary supporter who was going to vote for McCain. No more. John McCain and his poor judgment saw to that.

Posted by: diane senffner | September 2, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am

I hope this shows once and for all that women do not belong in the White House or as VP.
Enough is enough. Men from now on.

Posted by: Rob | September 2, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am

@Geevill, the irony is lost on people like you who just don’t get it.
Thanks for the comedy releif this morning.

Posted by: King | September 2, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am

tell us about sex starved Bill Clinton. I think this was a great choice for McCain. She will do great things.

Posted by: Cindy | September 2, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am

HA- the MSM is mad because MAC’s VEEP Pick stole the news spotlight from their messsianic hero worship thursday night…they wanted the buzz to last longer…if nothing else the Palin pick froze them out…as if John Edwards had any more experience than she did when he ran the first time for PRESIDENT.

Posted by: Tim | September 2, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am

At least she was not accused of rape like Bill.

Posted by: stan | September 2, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am

“As these questions continue to hang over Republicans, I’ll be asking McCain’s opponent for the presidency, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., for his perspective on these issues in an exclusive interview airing Sunday on “This Week.”"
George, How about doing your journalistic duty and asking Obama not just about Republican travails, but what the smooth talker would actually do in his first 100 days in office? No-one asks him this, and it is way more important subject than all this conventioneering bru-ha-ha. I am not voting for Obama, because I have a good feel for the type of president he would be, but why does no-one in the press ever ask him this question? Is it because you afraid his answer would be too revealing? Is this guy a smooth talking empty suit or not? What policies would be in place by April 2009 were he president?

Posted by: Bilko | September 2, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am

Been reading about Wallisa, and looking at photos. It’s really, really small town. Not to judge it, but if you listen to the republicans about her executive experience it sounds like she way mayor of New York City.
I’m not comfortable with this choice.

Posted by: Judy in Chicago | September 2, 2008, 10:32 am 10:32 am

Diane, what state are you governor of? What part of the economy have you handled. Alaska provides 20% of America’s energy.
Good to know you’re so qualified. And by the way, Palin is too.
Now run along and play with your dolls.

Posted by: Jo | September 2, 2008, 10:32 am 10:32 am

100% political pick to gain evangelical votes.
MCCain should have picked a VP for governing purposed, like Obama did.
More proof and yet another indication of why Obama makes better decisions for our country, while MCian makes political decisions to win elections.

Posted by: King | September 2, 2008, 10:32 am 10:32 am

rob, you cant be serious. men have children that get pregnant too. idiot.

Posted by: matt | September 2, 2008, 10:32 am 10:32 am

Check out Sarah Palin on stage at the “Hookers and Blow” party at the NRC. Review ABC’s video and stop it at -1:02 remaining. Why hasn’t this been noted before now?

Posted by: mikexxxx | September 2, 2008, 10:32 am 10:32 am

Suddenly conservatives have no problems with teen pregnancies. If it had been the reverse and this was a Democrat story, all the high moral “pundits” would have gotten on their pulpits to preach against the loose morals in democrats.

Posted by: Sunita | September 2, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am

Judy, well we are. I’m sure though that Obama who has done nothing is your choice at the TOP of the ticket, right? Lol. Riiight.

Posted by: Jo | September 2, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am

Jo, if by your logic Palin is qualified, than Obama is over-qualified

Posted by: King | September 2, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am

Imagine if Obama had been relatively unknown, and selected as Joe Biden’s Vice President. The stuff that would have poured out about him would be:
1. He is completely and utterly inexperienced.
2. He was involved in several instances of corruption and bribery while making his way through the Chicago political scene.
3. He was a drug user in his teens and twenties.
4. For twenty years, he attended a hate-filled church, with a pastor singing his hateful tune of America.
5. His father had five or more wives and is a citizen of Kenya.
6. His brother lives in a hut with no financial support or assistance.
7. He was able to purchase a house, thanks to a loan given to him by a convicted felon.
8. In his past campaigns, he found ways to disqualify his opponents from the ballot and run unopposed.
Am I missing something? What’s with the double-standard?

Posted by: Palin Supporter | September 2, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am

Those of you Dems who think you want change and are jumping on the Palin attack train need to vet your own Pres and VP picks. Obama is about the furthest thing from change you can find in Washington, other than his race. And Biden, he’s been in Washington longer than just about anyone left! Does taking a train really make you an agent of change in Washington?? Check out the “change” Obama brought to all his supporters in Chicago who are notably mute on his presidential bid. And check out how much Michelle Obama cares about health care for the poor while doing her job of keeping the poor out of the emergency room of her non-profit hospital.

Posted by: Jessica TX | September 2, 2008, 10:34 am 10:34 am

So what is of more concern? A presidential candidate with no experience, or a vice-presidential candidate with not experience?
As Mr. Obama stated, the pregnancy issue is not an issue, grow-up Diane Sawyer the way you pushed the issue in this mornings new’s as did the other liberal channels, made me want to turn the channel. Maybe the teen pregnancy you were trying to pick apart only show’s the humaness of this family. Get over it and on to issue’s.

Posted by: Lauraleels | September 2, 2008, 10:34 am 10:34 am

I can’t believe CBS is reporting the truth and only the truth!!! Your website will be taken down for reporting the truth! Look what happened to KOS!!

Posted by: pkb | September 2, 2008, 10:34 am 10:34 am

Sunita, since it’s a boyfriend and they’re getting married, your point is not so good.
Now if she were a whore and she was getting an abortion, we know you dems would be shouting her praises.

Posted by: Jo | September 2, 2008, 10:34 am 10:34 am

I voted for a republican presidential candidate 6 times, but no more. What Bush and Rove did to the GOP is a complete shame. I don’t know what the GOP stands for anymore. They have managed to mix in nascar, religion, guns and a very warped view of patriotism and somehow call it republican, I call it repugnant. I will vote democratic in this coming election.

Posted by: former republican | September 2, 2008, 10:34 am 10:34 am

Keep spinning GOP, I love the satire. Oh wait, you are serious?
LOL HAHAHAAH HahahHAAHAHaaaaaaaaa!!
*cough*
AHAHAHAHAH
ahahahaaaaaaaaaahaha

Posted by: King | September 2, 2008, 10:34 am 10:34 am

Dems scewed up big time o8 election by ignoring HIllary for the ticket. So all the hate is now directed against another WOMAN.
McCain-Palin 08
Media should be more concerned about vetting B Hussein Obama and see whether he really qualifies to run for the President.Is he illegal or a US citizen

Posted by: vic | September 2, 2008, 10:35 am 10:35 am

Something puzzles me? When Carter was elected NO ONE questioned if he should stay home and take care of a very young child. When Kerry was running Democrats overlooked his using loopholes in the system to get three military awards for the same action, message there is that it is OK for our guy to do it but not yours. As for experience she has run a state that is bigger than most countries, what has the other side done??

Posted by: curious | September 2, 2008, 10:35 am 10:35 am

Obama picked a 30 year Washington DC insider.
So much for “change.”
I’ll take that “fresh air” from Alaska.

Posted by: Beth | September 2, 2008, 10:35 am 10:35 am

The only question that should be asked is—— Is SHE qualified to be president? Can anyone honestly answer this question with a yes?

Posted by: Charleen | September 2, 2008, 10:35 am 10:35 am

…Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to ALTER or to abolish it, and to institute NEW Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness….
YEP, TIME TO CHANGE OUR GOVERNMENT!
COULDN’T HAVE SAID IT BETTER!
OBAMA 08!

Posted by: Declararion Of Independence | September 2, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am

Nobody is worried about those things but problem-stir-ers like Stephanopolous.
1-An out-of-wedlock pregnancy of a child disqualifies a parent from employment as a governing official? Are you kidding? Bristol Palin chose LIFE, which is more than Obama would want from his daughters when he said, in essence if they made a mistake he would not want them “punished with a baby”. So what is Obama’s answer? ABORTION. If it’s botched, he supports letting the baby die–that’s INFANTICIDE. Check the record and you’ll see it laid out in facts. http://www.newsweek.com/id/155560/page/1
2–The vetting process was ‘swift and superficial’? Hardly. Steph. is complaining because the process was actually kept secret from him and his cronies so he can’t believe the process was deep.
3–A dui from 1984 on Palin’s husband? Did you hear yourself?? 1984? Todd was just a kid, unlike a certain Ted Kennedy, responsible for the death of a woman as a full-grown man and serving on Capitol Hill for about 30 years longer than he should have.
You can keep digging. Palin supporters are STRONG.
Be logical, people. Mudslinging will do nothing in this campaign. Just watch.
You will all see that when there is victory in November for the American people–COUNTRY FIRST–

Posted by: Theresa T. | September 2, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am

I don’t think many Americans are worried about a DUI 22 years in a spouse’s past or a pregnant daughter. But McCain can’t get away with running someone as against corruption, big oil, etc when she cheerleads for drilling in wildlife refuges and the tracks they’re finding with the earmarked funds. The bit about seceding Alaska from the union is going to be seen as wacko. She could not have been thoroughly vetted. I’m a Dem for Obama regardless — but should McCain somehow win with this lady as his running mate, I will be downright scared. Mr. McCain Please DO put America first, find somebody else, oh please we beg of you!

Posted by: SusanK1951 | September 2, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am

How about a President (Obama) who makes good decisions and a candidate who makes political descions (McCain)
Watching the GOP analysts squirm about EVERY Palin question is pure 100% gold.

Posted by: King | September 2, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am

Why nobody ask her or the mccain campaing about her involment with the 527 Group in alaska wich the head of it is now heading to jail.

Posted by: jabe bello | September 2, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am

Palin is for abstinence only programs.
I’m really curious, did she talk to her daughter about birth control?
This is living proof that conservative ideas haven’t worked and have been totally disastrous for this country.

Posted by: Wayne Hauck | September 2, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am

“Obama was asked about whether his experience in the U.S. Senate dealing with weather-related situations compares to Palin’s executive experience running the state of Alaska and as the small town mayor of Wasilla, Alaska.
“My understanding is that Gov. Palin’s town, Wassilla, has I think 50 employees. We’ve got 2500 in this campaign. I think their budget is maybe 12 million dollars a year – we have a budget of about three times that just for the month,” Obama responded”
The false Messiah has spoken. Obama is more experiecne than Palin becuase of his executive experience running a campaign.Is Obama even running his campaign? How many of these nasty bloggers are on Obama’s payroll?
OMG, this guy is scary.

Posted by: geevill | September 2, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am

Jo, lol
I’ve voted for 30 years as a straight ticket republican. lol

Posted by: Judy in Chicago | September 2, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am

Now the media and Obama team go after yet ANOTHER woman with a vengeance.
Oh yes, that’s the way to round up the women’s vote.
LOLOL. Some people never learn.

Posted by: Jo | September 2, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am

Palin a wholly unqualified.
How pathetic GOP, you made a 100% political decision.
The voters will bury you.

Posted by: King | September 2, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am

Obama was a Senator for 19 weeks before he decided he was qualified to be President. That just about washes out the Palin-experience question.

Posted by: Jessica TX | September 2, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am

Geevill,
President Obama was in high school when he experiment with drugs. A lot of teenagers do that. I bet you experimented with drugs an alcohol also. The difference is a DUI Mr. Palin could have killed and innocent life. The family are scumbags. McSame lacks in temperment and judgement pure and simple.
MSM didn’t put any words in the Republican’s mouth. You guys did it yourself – that’s what you get for telling lies and fear mongering.
NO WAY, NO HOW, NO DRAFT, NO MCSAME/PALIN.

Posted by: ob08 | September 2, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am

Judy, sure you have.
And I’m a rock star.
Lol.

Posted by: Jo | September 2, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am

I want you, Sarah. I want you so bad. I want you. I want you so bad. It’s driving me mad. It’s driving me mad. She’s so heavy. Heavy, heavy, heavy. She’s so…

Posted by: hamishdad | September 2, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am

Jo, get a clue.
LOLOL. Some people never get it.

Posted by: King | September 2, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am

This MSM obsession with this non story is pathetic. The MSm refused to cover obama’s hate filled tied to Lybia church, his associations with a known terrorist or his financial dealings with an indicted felon. But Palin’s teenaged daughter’s pregnancy rocks the political world and MSM just can’t stop themselves from investigating her children. Do you think this has anythign to do with her being a woman? Do you think women voters will see it that way?

Posted by: s.b. | September 2, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am

“Thinker” and other smear-meisters: just remember, the things people are questioning about Palin actually happened, and can be documented through statements and actions the candidate herself made (i,e, video of her supporting the AIP when its public platform was secession for the USA); the crap you sling at Obama is completely fabricated and cannot be verified in any substantive way.

Posted by: SRW | September 2, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am

Neither she or husband realizes the challenges of raising a child with Down Syndrome.
My heart goes out for this family. This is not the right time for her to step in to the vice president’s role.

Posted by: Susan O | September 2, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am

Wow! Such dirt on Palin ( chuckle, chuckle ); how about Obama smoking weed, snorting coke “to escape the troubles of life” and talking about it? That’s ok?
Give me a break – the Dems are sweating mecury over the Palin pick, and rightly so; she has the horsepower and -genuine- charisma (unlike Obama’s artificial) to propel her and McCain right into the “white” house.

Posted by: Wally | September 2, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am

Mrs. Palin, step down! Your family needs you, your party does not.

Posted by: Ron Sampson | September 2, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am

Though everyone keeps talking about how McCain selected Palin to shore up support from the religious right, it seems to me that this was his way of getting back at them for not allowing him to pick Lieberman or Ridge because of their views on abortion. It’s like a kid saying “you want me to be quiet? fine I won’t talk at all…see how you like that?”. So he gives them a seriously flawed, but staunchly pro-life election be damned choice. Either way…it does not reflect well on McCain’s judgement or temperment.

Posted by: Roleesun | September 2, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am

I agree the DUI thing is dumb, as to drug use, Palin has also admitted drug use… so this isn’t exactly a difference.
“Palin’s husband got a DUI 22 years ago? Fine. go tell us about Obama’s drug use 22 years ago.”

Posted by: Jeff | September 2, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am

What was John McCain thinking? He definitely wasn’t paying attention tot he details when he chose Palin.

Posted by: John | September 2, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am

Biden and Obama BOTH are on VIDEO claiming that Obama isn’t ready.
For once I believe them.

Posted by: Jo | September 2, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am

Oh, I’m a liberal, Democrat, and an Obama supported. I could care less that Palin’s husband got a DUI once upon a time, or that daughter is pregnant from a moral standpoint–that’s her family’s business. BUT. What I do have a problem with is her lack of inexperience (one of McCain’s main arguments against Obama!) What happens if McCain gets elected, kicks the bucket, and suddenly this woman who has basically zero experience with anything relevant in today’s society (the economy, issues in the middle east, etc) is suddenly leader of the free world. Obama may not have all that experience either but he graduated from Columbia and Harvard, was the president of Harvard Law Review, taught at the University of Chicago, was in the Illinois Senate and the US Senate. I feel much more comfortable in those hands.

Posted by: AngiePangie | September 2, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am

I guess we have to carefully parse what Ms. Palin said about the bridge to nowhere to understand the subtle meaning: that she said “Thanks, but no thanks” to it. That must mean that first she said “Thanks”, but then she said “No thanks”. It depends on what the meaning of “but” is…

Posted by: s | September 2, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am

The Google is all you need for vetting. The Maverick used the Google. So he did his job before hiring the Caribou Barbie. Quit being so picky!!!

Posted by: Vetter | September 2, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am

THE EVANGELICALS SHOULD REALLY LOVE THIS ONE—NEW STANDARD FOR FAMILY VALUES—–AND I AM EVANGELICAL.
WONDER WHAT THE REST OF THE FAMILY LEARNED FROM HER—WOW

Posted by: rodney | September 2, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am

Get over it Goerge and the rest of you… WOW!… she and her family happen to be REAL people! I can relate to just about everything this family brings to the table! Strengthens by vote for McCain-Palin!

Posted by: TIM | September 2, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am

We finally get something close to a “regular american” and all liberals can do is whine. Just proof you don’t know what you want and you really apparently want rich, dishonest politicians who will make you feel good about your lack of personal responsibility by taking money from everyone to help others, help the environment, etc. It’s too bad the liberal idealist eutopia religion has taken over the democratic party.

Posted by: Cryos | September 2, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am

Crazy. McCain is utterly crazy to claim Sarah Palin is the most “ready on day one” VP he could have picked.
“What does the VP even do all day?” –Sarah Palin
As a woman I am embarrassed to be represented by this flake. Obama all the way.

Posted by: Mary | September 2, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am

I love that Obama supporters lash out childishly with “McJoke, McLame, McSame, etc.”, but they scream and cry if anyone has the audacity to use Barak Hussein Obama’s full name. Well I’m not sure why they have a problem with Palin’s lack of experience, but she has more experience than their good friend Barak Saddam Hussein Obama bin Biden. Whatever losers. Also, way to go attacking her kid. Of course, that’s another tough situation that Barak and the Dems wouldn’t lose sleep over since if it was his grandkid he would have already flushed the little mistake down the toilet.

Posted by: Real Deal | September 2, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am

Obama was asked about whether his experience in the U.S. Senate dealing with weather-related situations compares to Palin’s executive experience running the state of Alaska and as the small town mayor of Wasilla, Alaska.
“My understanding is that Gov. Palin’s town, Wassilla, has I think 50 employees. We’ve got 2500 in this campaign. I think their budget is maybe 12 million dollars a year – we have a budget of about three times that just for the month,” Obama responded”
To quote Sam Kinison in Back to School,
“Well,is he right?”

Posted by: geevill | September 2, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am

Jo: “Now the media and Obama team go after yet ANOTHER woman with a vengeance.”
Senator Obama’s team has demonstratively NOT been going after Palin. Quit lying.

Posted by: jhw539 | September 2, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am

who cares about her husbands dui arrest? her daughters pregnancy just means her daughter is an idiot, for the love of god, she is 17 and she is practically an adult.
The only troubling thing is that she was a member of the Alaska Independence party, which was a secessionist movement.
Mccain dumb for choosing someone that wanted Alaska to secede from the union. That can’t be good for national security.

Posted by: Obamaniac | September 2, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am

“I believe when you apply for a job position, you should be qualified, and I wouldn’t be qualified to run.”
Barack Obama in 2004 when asked about 2008
BINGO!!!

Posted by: Jo | September 2, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am

ANWAR’s footprint is smaller than LAX. DRILL, DRILL, DRILL…go Sarah Pallin! OR, should we be strapped to the Messiah’s terrorist freinds forever? Sure..that’s so much better.:(

Posted by: THINK | September 2, 2008, 10:41 am 10:41 am

Obama did cocain about 22 years aog didn’t he? That’s the man running for Potus not the husband of the VPOTUS. Cocaine, you know the substance that supports criminal gangs and drug cartels and is reponsible for thousands of murders a year in the US. Obama did cocaine, cover that story won’t you

Posted by: s.b. | September 2, 2008, 10:41 am 10:41 am

McGoo has such poor judgement and is no leader. If he wanted a woman he should have picked Condi Rice who everyone knows and respects.

Posted by: oo | September 2, 2008, 10:41 am 10:41 am

Change = Biden?

Posted by: What? | September 2, 2008, 10:42 am 10:42 am

The 4th question that Mr. Stephanopoulos should ask the Republicans is, “Why isn’t Palin wearing a flag lapel pin?”

Posted by: rucyrious | September 2, 2008, 10:42 am 10:42 am

Palin seems like a great person…
But McCain is 72, and if you look at an actuarial chart, there is a good chance that his VP will become President.
I don’t think Palin would be a good President.
It seems like a hasty decision on McCain’s part… and I have had enough of Presidents who don’t think before they act.

Posted by: blip | September 2, 2008, 10:42 am 10:42 am

The smears against Palin are coming from the Obama team. The websites have already been traced back to him.
Nice try though. You always this naive? Lol.

Posted by: Jo | September 2, 2008, 10:42 am 10:42 am

VETTER
YOU CANNOT SAY MCCAIN DOES THE GOOGLE THING——-HE DOES NOT KNOW HOW TO USE A COMPUTER.—THIS ONE WILL REALLY GET INTERESTING.

Posted by: rodney | September 2, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am

One name for you:
Ulysses S. Grant the 18th president.
Presidential experts always place Grant near the bottom of the pile due to his tolerance of corruption.
Presidential elections are not about the past, but the future. At the moment McCain is losing me, and my thinking is a few other independent voters.
This is why I question Governor Palin as his choice. The nation has moved in my humble opinion beyond a 50/50 margin due to President Bush. The difference this time will not be about energizing the base, but moving the middle. Once again it will be it’s the economy stupid time.
Respectfully,

Posted by: Reader | September 2, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am

The argument by Democrats that Palin is unsuited to the VP job because she has no foreign policy experience is one they shouldn’t be making. It points out the total lack of foreign policy experience on the part of Senator Obama, and he’s at the top of their ticket. “But wait”, they say, “Obama’s VP pick has plenty of foreign policy experience!” Yes, Senator Biden does have that experience, but he’s not at the top of the ticket.

Posted by: Steven | September 2, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am

Palin and her family should be left alone. We should focus on McCain’s judgment. He was not choosing a VP for himself but for teh Republican Party and perhaps the country. How could he be so reckless?

Posted by: John Jones | September 2, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am

Nothing about Sarah Palin’s membership in the secessionist Alaska Independence Party? Heck, she even gave a speech for their 2008 convention. Back during the last time secessionists were considered for national tickets (that is, the Civil War era), such talk was regarded by many folks as treasonable.
The Republican party is just filled with nuts, isn’t it?

Posted by: Eric Maundry | September 2, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am

I wonder why McCain didn’t pick Lindsay Grahm? He’s a conservative yet somewhat practical, he is likable, a good friend of McCain’s.
I think McCain is loosing his marbles.

Posted by: Wayne Hauck | September 2, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am

the GOP needed “star power” to compete in the 21st century media SATURATED election cycle…I don’t blame him. I was hoping for Pawlenty but…whadya gonna do. It was definitely politically motivated but in the current media culture probably unavoidable…my mom voted for Jimmy Carter because he had a nice smile. This is where about at least 20% of the american electorate is at and the party leaders know it.

Posted by: Tim | September 2, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am

Cher FL,
Clinton should villified and so should Edwards. Cheating on your shows lack of character. However, choosing someone to potentially become the second most powerful person on the planet without properly vetting them, with minimal personal contact, and with disregard to her minimal qualifications shows a gross lack of judgement. I could care less about Palin’s daughter’s pregnancy. However, conservative reaction to it is hypocritical. You know if she wasn’t one of them they would pointing all kinds of fingers at her and being judgemental rather simply “stuff happens” and she should just be loved.

Posted by: indy_voter | September 2, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am

I don’t care about trivia from the 80′s in people’s personal lives. However, the bad news about Palin seems to come daily and WILL sink McCain if they don’t do something fast. Wreckless is not a strong enough word for what McCain has done in selecting her.

Posted by: Ryan Healey | September 2, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am

Obama is an elitist. This country has been ruled by elitist for too long. I think it would be refreshing if trailer people moved into the White House and hung a moose up out back.

Posted by: hamishdad | September 2, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am

Mccains campaing speaker could not come up with something she did while in the Gov seat and cindy mccain said she has National security experience because she lives close to Russia. Wow how dumb of a first lady. That makes me a expert because i have been to Cuba,Dominican republic,Mexico and russia. I should be the next president then.

Posted by: jabe bello | September 2, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am

geevill,
Get over your hatred of President Obama. Your candidates are both liers. How do you know that President Obama did not live in Kansas. He may have for a short time when he was a baby. Besides Kansas people are happy to have President Obama’s grandparents from Kansas.
Get a life. You are annoying.

Posted by: ob08 | September 2, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am

what does obama going to columbia and being the editor of the law review have anything to do with his complete lack of foreign policy experience?

Posted by: steve | September 2, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am

Obama seems like a great person.
But Obama has no experience and is young, and there is a 100% chance he would be president on Day 1.
And that’s a problem.
Do these libs hear themselves?? Lol.

Posted by: Jo | September 2, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am

Uh, ok, guys is that the best you all can do? Her husband had a DUI back in the eighties?!! You Libs must really be hurting to find anything at all if you are going to mention that one!

Posted by: Jim | September 2, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am

“America First”? When they have to take off their “Republican Hats” to put on their “American Hats” so they can pretend (again) they give a crap potential hurrican problems: how is that America FIRST? All the above, and still McCain has a chance, cause as has been proved the last 2 elections, America is 50% moron.

Posted by: Bob | September 2, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am

REPUBLICANS TRIED TO GET HILLARY’S SUPPORTERS BY CHOSING AN UNQUALIFIED WOMAN AS A VP CANDIDATE.
NICE TRY. BUT A BAD DECSION!
MCCAIN IS JUST CONTINUING THE BAD DECISIONS MADE BY REPUBLICANS FOR THE PAST EIGHT YEARS!
MCAAIN HAS POOR JUDGEMENT.

Posted by: Sarah Victors | September 2, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am

This is truly about judgment folks, and you can now clearly see what you are “buying” when you support McSame! Most unqualified of all candidates “vetted”, or in Palin’s case, NOT VETTED. So what does that say about any of the other potential VP’s, all of you poor sods – losing to a skirt who now will be the downfall of the republicans. Let’s leave the babies and teen mother out of it – anyway, shows the staunch conservative principles in the poorest of light. But now Palin will show that she was part of a fringe radical group, supported the bridge to nowhere, and secession of Alaska from the United States, and also being under investigation for trying to get her B-I-L fired and all the worms coming out of the woodwork. Who really cares whether McSame’s VP is a man or woman??? Anyone with that amount of baggage is totally unqualified to be a mayor of any town, let alone a VP of the United States. Help, before we become further laughing stock of the world by having such politicians. Keep them OUT before we even open the door to allow McSame and Palin in!!!!

Posted by: Karen | September 2, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am

Wonder how McCain’s campaign could have done such a thorough and professional job without bothering to check the archives of their subject’s local newspaper — which are not on line. Looks to me like someone was too lazy, or pressed for time, for the normal due diligence. Not sure if this says anything about McCain himself, as much as it does the usual party hacks that actually run the campaign day to day. Dems have had similar problems. Maybe all those advisers are overpaid, even if they do seem to have lots of friends in the media.

Posted by: phil | September 2, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am

Gonna post this again since it’s so relevant. Gotta love all the lazy, hypocritical liberals who don’t even believe their own words or ideals.
We finally get something close to a “regular american” and all liberals can do is whine. Just proof you don’t know what you want and you really apparently want rich, dishonest politicians who will make you feel good about your lack of personal responsibility by taking money from everyone to help others, help the environment, etc. It’s too bad the liberal idealist eutopia religion has taken over the democratic party.

Posted by: CRyos | September 2, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am

Reagan left office 22 years ago. We can stop talking about him too, right?

Posted by: Rory | September 2, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am

The corporate media must still want Mitt “I crap corporate money” Romney on the GOP ticket.

Posted by: HGG | September 2, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am

Jabe, I have news for you. When your state borders Russian & Canada, you deal DIRECTLY with those people.
Pretty dumb, aren’t you?

Posted by: Jo | September 2, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am

Hey George!
Yeah, the Democrat’s Presidential Nominee doesn’t have National Security, Foreign Policy or administrative experience and you have the audacity to questioning the Republican’s VP nominee experience on these issues? George, it is obvious that you are so “in the tank for Obama”.

Posted by: Mountaineer7400 | September 2, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am

To George Stephanopoulus:
Please rule out Sarah Palin as a chronic liar as best as you humanly can. America deserves to know.
I can not wrap my head around a possible liar being a heart beat away from being the American president.
I just can’t.
With great thanks.
Jo

Posted by: Julie Okkema | September 2, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am

geevil: ““My understanding is that Gov. Palin’s town, Wassilla, has I think 50 employees. We’ve got 2500 in this campaign. I think their budget is maybe 12 million dollars a year – we have a budget of about three times that just for the month,” Obama responded”
To quote Sam Kinison in Back to School,
“Well,is he right?”"
Yes, but many people have already made the point that his successful campaign is an example of executive experience (that is about as long as Palin has been governor of Alaska too). This received a good deal of coverage during the primaries. The Obama campaign has been very well run, managing cash flow and employees smoothly with an executive structure and execution on par with a successful fortune 500 company. The unprecedented 2 million+ donor base is quite an achievement and an excellent example of successful and methodical business strategy. And there is no question that Senator Obama acts as the CEO of the campaign, for better or for worse (mostly better, but politically he should have handled Rev Wright quicker).

Posted by: jhw539 | September 2, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am

I find it interesting that the conservatives are blasting “liberals” for talking about Palin’s daughter’s pregnancy. I see all sorts of racist and absurd comments about Obama and the conservatives seem to think that’s okay. I love the double standard.
Joe Biden cares more for women’s rights than this Palin lady. She is like no woman I know. No sex ed? No right to choose? She sounds awful. I even heard she wanted to know how to go about banning books. When I thought she could not get any worse, she appears to be even more insane than I thought.
Surely the media will introduce everyone to the real Sarah Palin within the 2 months and the voters will decide. She and McCain and showing everyone that Obama and Biden are the clear choice.
Way to go, McCain! Obama Biden 08!!

Posted by: Holly | September 2, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am

I am very conservative and was behind McCain 100%. Now with his choice of Palin I am not so sure. I honestly feel like he handed the election to Obama.

Posted by: Conservative mother of 7 | September 2, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am

geevill,
Man, I need some of what you’re smoking. You must be smoking good if you think Palin is a great choice.

Posted by: indy_voter | September 2, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am

Wow. Focus on McCain, not Palin. Remember that the nomination fell in McCain’s lap after he had lost it because Romney was eliminated due to his Mormonism. The Palin pick is typical McCain throughout his career. His maverick style is not due to a unbendable, independent ethic but rather a brash, loose-cannon style. Sound like President Bush? McCain is not the Change We Can Believe In because he is unpredictable and it is impossible to believe in something you can’t predict.

Posted by: Thoren | September 2, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am

I don’t think the DUI is an issue. Why would they bring stuff like that up anyway. Sarah Palin’s responsibilities as a mother are an issue. Letting her daughter get pregnant at 16 doesn’t say much for looking out for your daughter. It’s clear why John McCain picked her. I think it’s going to backfire right in his face. Having no foreign policy experience at a time like this is her biggest problem. She could never stand in for McCain if someting happened to him.

Posted by: Mike | September 2, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am

I have to admit I’m much more concerned about Palin’s desire to drill ANWR and close ties to the oil industry along with McCain’s advisors (and money) coming from those same oil interests than the fact she has a pretty standard American family (sister with a messy divorce, kid expecting a baby, and had to bail her husband out one night). Her
personal situation doesn’t jive with the GOPs “Saintly Real Americans” platform – but I was pretty sick of that already.

Posted by: SFranz | September 2, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am

“Get over your hatred of President Obama. Your candidates are both liers. How do you know that President Obama did not live in Kansas. He may have for a short time when he was a baby. Besides Kansas people are happy to have President Obama’s grandparents from Kansas.
Get a life. You are annoying.”
Joe Biden said he is runnig for President and said Obama grew up in Kansas. We cannot afford to have confused brain diseased man as VP either.

Posted by: geevill | September 2, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am

The libs are pissed. They know we will win now. More people are ready for a woman VP, than an inexperienced black man for President.
Women are 1/2 the population. It’s their turn.

Posted by: Jo | September 2, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am

Let’s not forget:
Palin’s membership in the separatist Alaska Independence Party during the 1990s. She addressed the party’s convention as Governor encouraging them to “keep up the good work.”
Her firing of top Wasilla officials after taking office in a sort of “loyalty test.”
Her closure of the Wasilla museum. Perhaps they had a display with a helio-centric version of the solar system… ?? (sarcasm there)

Posted by: Jeff Davis | September 2, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am

You people are wacked. Obama never ran a town fair let alone a city. The man is a speech and a suit. WTF?

Posted by: nick | September 2, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am

Hey Geevil – before you slam Obama drug use – Sarah inhaled …
http://dwb.adn.com/news/politics/elections/governor06/story/8049298p-7942233c.html

Posted by: inhaler | September 2, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am

ALL YOU CAN SAY ABOUT MCCAINS JUDGEMENT IS——(WHAT JUDGEMENT)—-I AM SURE WE ALL WILL SLEEP WELL WITH A DITSY TWIT RUNNING THE COUNTRY—MCCAIN IS ALREADY SHOWING SIGNS OF ALZIHIMERS—OR SIMPLY OLD AGE.

Posted by: rodney | September 2, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am

Most americans vote on who they “relate to” -this is why Mac picked her. This is fact.

Posted by: Tim | September 2, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am

SFranz,
And the Palin bashing and the sexism don’t “jive” with the Left’s saying women deserve power, and we like diversity and the average Joe.
Oops.

Posted by: Jo | September 2, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am

geevill wrote:
“The MSM putting words in Republican mouths.”
Not so much as hearing the talk right now. Not that it’s a bad idea: Which is worse, that Republicans are asking themselves these questions, or that they are not? Come on, the indies have to be thinking “oh, no, more bad administration, poor thinking, lack of concern for how people are really going to feel.
No matter what, this is bad for the one who supposedly had more experience. It does make it look like more of the McSame. McCain should fire Karl Rove. I suspect this is his mistake.

Posted by: JJ Sabinas | September 2, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am

Come on liberals admit it. Despite your whining what you really want is a two faced, blood sucking lawyer who will lie to your face with a smile so you think you’re getting a good deal. You seem to reject and denounce anything else so that is what logic dictates. Kind of like most liberal platforms it is how things look not how they work. Better get some new spinners for your 1989 Honda Civic. Sad.

Posted by: Cryos | September 2, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am

The founder of the Alaskan Independence Party said this:
“I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.”
Palin became a member in 1994. Does she want to succeed from America?

Posted by: Wayne Hauck | September 2, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am

Conservative mother of 7 = sinlge male Obama paid blogger.
As a Clinton voter, I and others have seen your types all year. posing as someone else. We know all about your operation. Palin was a powerful pick which is why the leftists are freaking out trying to destroy her.

Posted by: geevill | September 2, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am

Conservative mother of 7 = sinlge male Obama paid blogger.
As a Clinton voter, I and others have seen your types all year. posing as someone else. We know all about your operation. Palin was a powerful pick which is why the leftists are freaking out trying to destroy her.

Posted by: geevill | September 2, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am

Stephanopoulos your another dimwit in the tank for Obama

Posted by: Rogers | September 2, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am

It’s not her daughter’s pregnancy that should capture our attention. It’s the mounting corruption charges Sarah Palin has stacked up in her VERY Brief political career that should concern patriotic Americans. Political firings, taking money for supporting a bridge to no-where and then saying she didn’t support it, etc. Her ethics are on track to match the corruption of the Bush/Cheney scandals and she’s only been governor for two years. It’s not surprising ethics don’t matter to McCain but I thought they mattered to the Republican party.

Posted by: Mike | September 2, 2008, 10:51 am 10:51 am

Obama is diseased with egomania
Hitler and Stalin were egomania diseased
Obama is friends with known terrorists
Obama is endorsed by Hamas
Obama is endorsed by the Black Panthers
Obama has no experience
Obama will never stop campaigning
Yikes…Sara’s daughter is knoeced up…
Guess I’ll vote for Obama
Wake Up America

Posted by: Confused | September 2, 2008, 10:51 am 10:51 am

Jeff Davis, you could go on forever about Palin, but one thing we do know……she doesn’t hang around with radicals like Rev. Wright and terrorists like Bill Ayers.
So your point is moot.

Posted by: Jo | September 2, 2008, 10:51 am 10:51 am

mike, you are an idiot. “let her daughter get pregnant.” do you think she sat in the room while her daughter was having sex? how exactly did palin ‘let’ her daughter get pregnant. typical.

Posted by: steve | September 2, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am

John from TX and Cher from FL, you guys are both in denial. You continue down the path of vitriol and slander, smear and fear. Two wars, despicable handling of Katrina, gas at $4, a crumbling economy, Look where your party has gotten us in eight years. Keep attacking Obama and the rest of us, since you can’t defend the utter failure of the GOP.

Posted by: Sean | September 2, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am

McCain DID NOT CHOOSE Sarah Palin.
The ultra-conservative “COUNCIL FOR NATIONAL SECURITY” chose Palin, and McCain just approved it like an idiot.
Like John Kerry said, McCain choosing Palin proves that McCain has sold out to the right-wing.
Too bad for McCain, that the corporate media would rather have a full-out corporatist on the ticket, like MITT ROMNEY, because they fully expect McCain’s running mate to take over during McCain’s first term, and the Republican Party as a whole WANTS IT TO BE MITT ROMNEY who takes over.
They couldn’t care less about McCain getting elected unless his running mate is their boy Mitt.

Posted by: HGG | September 2, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am

Really George, if Obama was the VP pick and was as unknown as we was two years ago, people would be asking all the same questions. Somehow over time people get use to the candidates imperfections. I don’t see these two minor revelations carrying past this week, and certainly not after people get a chance to know her.
The experience question is curios to me. I mean how is Obama’s significantly better? and he is on the top of the ticket!

Posted by: Another George | September 2, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am

Obama Vetting Process:
Obama: Joe, do you have any skeletons in your closet? Any ethics problems?
Joe: Well, my LOBBYIST son and my brother are being sued for Hedgefund FRAUD.
Obama: Well, that’s bad, but do you think the mainstream media will look into it? I mean, they’re on our team.
Joe: No way! They’re working as hard as they can to get us elected.
Obama: You’re right. No problem. Welcome to the ticket Joe!

Posted by: Jo | September 2, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am

If you want to see why McChange picked his trophy soul mate, go to http://www.vpilf.com.
Friggin’ hilarious.

Posted by: Jh Atlanta, GA | September 2, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am

GEEVILL
COMPARING BIDEN TO THE DITSY TWIT IS LAUGHABLE——BIDEN WILL GIVE HER A LESSON ON HARDBALL AND WILL SMILE AS HE DOES IT.

Posted by: rodney | September 2, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am

Obama’s campaign has more employees than the executive branch of Alaska’s state government. It has about 1/14 as many as the executive branch of the Federal government.
That’s a *big* organization. Setting up a 2,500 person organization in a year that runs smoothly is nothing short of amazing.
Does Obama run his organization? That’s a silly question. Of course he delegates management of different areas to people, just like every CEO on the planet. Do you believe the President crunches his own numbers and personally manages all 36,000 employees in the executive branch?
Alaska is smaller in population than the city of Houston – actually a lot smaller. It has no agriculture, no manufacturing, very little infrastructure and absolutely no budgetary problems (all their money comes from oil and the federal government).
Heck, the Mayor of Anchorage has a harder job than the Governor (half the population of Alaska lives in and around Anchorage).

Posted by: johnTX | September 2, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am

I don’t have anything against the idea of Alaskan Independence. It’s not treason. If the people of Alaska voted democratically to cease being a part of the United States, the United States would have no right to force them to.
However Palin is still a psychotic lunatic.

Posted by: Matthew | September 2, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am

The older I get the more I realize that 20% of republicans are greedy bas*****
and 20% of democrats are stupid fools.
In this election cycle for once we have 4 likeable people running… for once…now if only the mean stupid people of the respective parties would shut their mouths and listen to what is being said for once.

Posted by: Tim | September 2, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am

The Hillary women are not gonna fall for this crap. They’re not going to vote for this fast-track bimbo from Wasilla or whatever two-horse town she’s from

Posted by: Vetter | September 2, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am

Awwww, the MSM media got it’s collective panties in a punch because McCain picked a Washington outsider to change things up.

Posted by: geevill | September 2, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am

Obviously a lot of people here have no idea what kind of person comes from and lives in Alaska. The place hardens you and makes you tough.
Do not attack this woman on experience, she has a lot more leadership experience then Obama and is a more qualified leader then he his. Her 17 year old daughter being pregnant, is that your business? Obama wouldn’t want his daughter punished with a baby in the first place.

Posted by: Anthony | September 2, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am

I’ve got an idea that will both balance the budget and would win McCain the election.
Cut off food stamps and WIC for a month. 1/4 of liberals will die from not knowing what to do and the money we save from not shelling out every benefit under the sun will balance the budget.

Posted by: Cryos | September 2, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am

My wife and I are jazzed over McCain’s pick of Sarah Palin. This year will see our first ever donation to any presidential candidate. The fact is she is a REAL person with a REAL history. Regular folks can identify with her life. Voting “Present” 160 times as a Senator is nothing but a phony person living a non-traceable history.
The arguments tossed up against her read less serious than most Democrat politician…
Fringe Alaskan party: USA = Freedom of expression: Bill Clinton— especially when he lived in England
Husband Drunk Driving; Ted Kennedy
Fired a public official: Bill and Hillary Clinton
Little experience: Barack Obama
Pregnant at 40: my wife
Had first baby 8 months after wedding: Even my family falls into this category
if your candidates are good enough for you, then Sarah Palin’s good enough for us.

Posted by: Dave | September 2, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am

REPUBLICAN TICKET——GRANDPAW MOSES AND THE DITSY TWIT—–WHAT AN ACT.

Posted by: rodney | September 2, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am

Palin doesn’t stand for the issues that women care about….choice, reproductive rights, talking our 17 year old daughters out of getting married, gun-control, equal pay….and take it from a woman with a lot of contact with other women….we ain’t votin’ for Mooseburger Palin.
What a mistake McInsane has made.

Posted by: Stephanie | September 2, 2008, 10:56 am 10:56 am

You’re right. Alaska is small. About the size of, oh, say DELAWARE.
In fact, Delaware is so small, why do they even have a Senator Biden?
Maybe he should resign.

Posted by: Jo | September 2, 2008, 10:56 am 10:56 am

Check out Sarah Palin on stage at the “Hookers and Blow” party at the NRC. Review ABC’s video and stop it at -1:02 remaining. Why hasn’t this been noted before now?
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=5703352

Posted by: mikexxxx | September 2, 2008, 10:56 am 10:56 am

So Obama’s experience is running for office. What else do you got?

Posted by: Jim | September 2, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am

Palin needs Obama in the delivery room. He can club the baby like a seal when it pops out as he likes to support and stop the teenage mother problems right there.

Posted by: Cryos | September 2, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am

Delaware has more people than Alaska.

Posted by: Stephanie | September 2, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am

The message voters are hearing is that McCain would rather win an election than put his country first.

Posted by: gpack | September 2, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am

NEWS FLASH: Palin announces plan to increase family values – goal to have 5 more children in the next 5 years

Posted by: Vetter | September 2, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am

Hahaha! What is wrong with people who dislike Obama? It’s so sad to see people so desperate that they have to throw out “black panthers” and “Hitler”! Are you really that afraid of a black man as President? The right wingers plan is simply to scare everyone into voting for McCain. they scared everyone into voting for Bush the second time around. Fear is a powerful tool. Look how it’s ruined our country.
Obama is a great candidate and it makes me sad that there are still ignorant people out there who are afraid of people of different races. America has come a long way. I wish everyone would get with the program.

Posted by: WTF | September 2, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am

As these questions continue to hang over Republicans, I’ll be asking McCain’s opponent for the presidency, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., for his perspective on these issues in an exclusive interview airing Sunday on “This Week.”
Got to get your plug in there Georgie boy. Seems to me these are McCain’s issues, not Obama’s, so why don’t you talk to McCain about it ? Haven’t you kissed Obama’s a** enough ? I do believe, in spite of your wannabe professionalism you are the most BIASED of them all.

Posted by: old mo | September 2, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am

geevil: “Palin was a powerful pick ”
Yes, talk about her for a bit. What specifically has she done? How did she fight corruption? What did she do to improve the governance of Alaska, awash in oil-royalty money? Beyond getting a passport last year for a photo-op trip to Kuwait, what specifically is her foreign policy experience?
All I’ve heard about Palin are irrelevant personal crap, meaningless talking points and… no specific examples of why she is a “powerful pick.” You have a voice – get out the word on what she has actually done, because right now it sounds like she has done nothing. Even Obama has a few laws on the books conceived, written, and pushed through into law during his last decade+ in elected office.

Posted by: jhw539 | September 2, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am

Stephanopoulos: Just Another Newsmedia Socialist Moron Aiding in the Ruin of this Great Nation and the Idiot American’s Who Buy Into this B.S.
Grow up, liberal cry-babies and open your eyes! Don’t you see the damage you are doing to this country!?!?! Under Obama, it will be like communism without the guns…

Posted by: I want the USA back! | September 2, 2008, 10:58 am 10:58 am

eagleton!
eagleton!
eagleton!

Posted by: indy | September 2, 2008, 10:58 am 10:58 am

Four years ago Obama admitted in a press conference that he wouldn’t be ready to run for president in 2004.
Let’s trust him folks. He knows he’s not ready. He admitted it.
You don’t “mess around” with the top of the ticket. VP perhaps, not the TOP of the ticket.

Posted by: Jo | September 2, 2008, 10:58 am 10:58 am

“DITSY TWIT”….that was deep. Any other intellectual pearls for us rodney.

Posted by: nick | September 2, 2008, 10:58 am 10:58 am

“Palin’s husband got a DUI 22 years ago? Fine. go tell us about Obama’s drug use 22 years ago.”
You can put it up against Palin’s drug in the last several years. Get real she said she used Pot when it was legal in Alaska, it just became illegal this year.
She’s a seperatist!!!
Give her the boot.

Posted by: Aware Veteran | September 2, 2008, 10:58 am 10:58 am

Lunatic fringe left’s painful lesson in the subject of “blow back” coming in 5…4…3…2…1…
When will you ever learn?
What is the number one attribute for running in public office? Experience? Wrong. Authenticity and the ability for the electorate to “relate” to the candidate. Palin and family have this as their number one trait. Combine this with a relentless, nasty attack by the far left groups and the rating seeking main stream media fanning the flames – which will help to shape public opinion and bring out the biggest “sympathy” effect in modern presidential political history – and the “unintended consequences” are going to be substantial.
Good Luck.
CL

Posted by: classicalliberal | September 2, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am

“Palin doesn’t stand for the issues that women care about….choice, reproductive rights, talking our 17 year old daughters out of getting married, gun-control, equal pay….and take it from a woman with a lot of contact with other women….we ain’t votin’ for Mooseburger Palin.
What a mistake McInsane has made.
Posted by: Stephanie”
McCain isn’t expecting liberals to come over anyways. “Not for women’s rights huh?” Maybe you could learn something from Palin. 5 kids, highly intelligent, moving through the ranks of government and now the nominee for vice president. I bet she makes you look pathetic.

Posted by: Cryos | September 2, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am

As Commander of the Alaska Natl Guard, last year Palin visited the troops overseas, including those wounded in Germany.
As a guy who wants to be COMMANDER IN CHIEF of the U.S. Military, Obama couldn’t be bothered to visit the wounded.
Difference? HUGE.

Posted by: Jo | September 2, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am

“Even Obama has a few laws on the books conceived, written, and pushed through into law during his last decade+ in elected office. ”
Name one

Posted by: Jim | September 2, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am

A major consideration that seems to be overlooked re: the Palin choice…while related to experience…is much more relevant in today’s multicultural, hyper-complex world. And that is: lack of knowledge. Lack of knowledge re: histories of “hot spots,” lack of knowledge of other cultures, lack of knowledge re: past, present, and (potential) future world leaders, lack of knowledge of economics, of technology, of all that interacts with and defines our lives, not only as U.S. citizens, but as global participants.
With all due respect: I would ask you to simply listen to what Mrs. Palin has to say in these areas (or absence thereof). It’s no accident she was kept from appearing on the Sunday morning news programs; even her surrogates have admitted she’ll need to undergo an intensive learning process “at the foot” of McCain (quite a visual).
Whether she was an “executive” or not (take a look at the Wasilla City Hall and you’ll know why I had to put the word in quotes), I would much prefer two individuals at the helm who know the difference between Shiia and Sunni and who recognize the main purpose of the “surge” (more palatable to say it this way than to tell us hey, we’re sending a whole bunch more troops in for an indefinite period of time)…was to settle the political climate enough to get warring factions working with each other on political solutions amongst themselves (which has yet to happen).
P.S. I look forward to a time in the near future when our citizens embrace astute intelligence…rather than scorn it.

Posted by: Barbyrah | September 2, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am

I am very excited that McCain picked Palin as his VP. It just shows that McCain is serious about bringing change to Washington, where as Barack is keeping the old guard in place with having Biden on the ticket.
Sarah Palin is a real person with real life experiences. We all have had either someone in the family that made a decision that was a shock to others, but they will support their children and not beg for an abortion that Im sure that most demos would rather have.
I as an Independent am very proud that McCain has picked Palin and look forward to the State of the Union Address seeing Sarah Palin outclassing Pelosi during the speech.
Obama says a mistake is having a baby…pure democrat philosophy where as having a baby and supporting that child through good times and bad are a Republican philosophy.
Thank God for McCain and Palin!!!

Posted by: SBrainard | September 2, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am

There is precedent for a poorly-vetted VP candidate being dropped from the ticket – Thomas Eagleton, who was briefly on the Democratic ticket in 1972. Will this happen with Palin?

Posted by: dw | September 2, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am

Illinois here. Even when Obama was a lowly state senator in our General Assembly, he represented almost as many people in his single district (600,000) than there are in Palin’s entire state (700,000). And he was a United States Senator visiting the troops in Iraq when she was still the mayor of her village.

Posted by: Matthew | September 2, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am

CRYOS
YOU COULD DO AWAY WITH SOCIAL SECURITY ALSO -IS THIS MCCAINS PLAN.

Posted by: rodney | September 2, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am

Palin has done nothing wrong by accepting the nomination to be VP. She has a growing political career ahead of her.
On the other hand, I will not vote for McCain because he has policies that I find wasteful and rushed. Palin can not be VP, she is just not ready for the chance at presidency.
Maybe I think politicians are shady, but this pick for VP is a direct attack on Hillary Clinton supporters. McCain must really think they are sexist and dumb. I would assume that 18 million people like Hillary Clinton because she is a great leader, not because she has a vagina.

Posted by: Tim | September 2, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am

Does anyone need any more confirmation that the Fascist Republicans simply elect figure-heads? Does anyone really believe that any of the Reptiles on the Right would let this woman touch anything other than a coffee pot? Who is kidding who!!!

Posted by: pekopper | September 2, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am

What makes Alaska UNIQUE: Ice Trucking and America’s Toughest Jobs.
Yeah, right.
Seriously, folks: Minnesota and North Dakota are COLD places too. And they don’t try to secede.

Posted by: Vetter | September 2, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am

the big difference in the “experience” question when comparing Obama to Palin; Obama was voted to run for president by the American people; he WON the election; WE THE PEOPLE were willing to have faith in a fresh face in Washington; whereas the CHOICE of VP is a crucial campaign CHOICE to be made for the 2nd highest office in our country; and McCain CHOSE Palin as his best option to run our country should he not be able to complete his term;

Posted by: independent | September 2, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am

Why should that be a big deal ? Doesnt the US have millions of families just like hers? how does that in any way cloud her judgment in anything!?!!
trust the Democrats to arm-wave things as usual.

Posted by: Sonia | September 2, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am

So much for the so-called heavy weight journalists; Katie Couric of CBS & Matt Lauer of NBC who soft-pedaled around the pregnancy of Jamie Lynn Spears. Their reporting not only showed sympathy for Spears and her family, but they made shied away from the fact she was 16 when she was pregnant! Yet they are foaming at the mouth at the chance of having a chance at bringing down a politician’s family member, repeatedly mentioning she is pregnant at 17, despite the experts saying most Americans are not interested in prying into someone else’s life. The true colors of these journalists have come through in this story. While I am not saying that all is not squeaky clean in politics, but there should be equal time and reporting given to all.

Posted by: brit1 | September 2, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am

I bought a car worth $20,000 after 7 days of thoughtful comparison and homework.

Posted by: demforever | September 2, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am

Vic,
DEMS are not railroading Palin, McSame did.
President Obama 2008

Posted by: ob08 | September 2, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am

Four years ago when Kerry nominated the novice senator John Edwards who was a pretty boy with absolutely no experience in foreign policy (and this was in the middle of a war)…the reaction was quite different.
“Whooo hooo! John Edwards! We love him! He’s so cuuuuute”

Posted by: Jo | September 2, 2008, 11:02 am 11:02 am

jhw539
Palin’s done more than Obama and he’s running for PRES. Hello.
Obama: 140 working days in the STATE Senate, 1 working day in U.S. Senate…sounds like a real experienced pick for PRES. Go job DEMS!! Speaks volumes!!! What an educated decision!!!
Palin: 13 yrs in political offices

Posted by: Open your Eyes | September 2, 2008, 11:02 am 11:02 am

Jim,
Obama has authored literally hundreds of bills at the Federal level, at least a dozen of which have passed into law. You have the internet at your disposal – look them up yourself.

Posted by: Matthew | September 2, 2008, 11:02 am 11:02 am

mtr2311 is one if those gibbering fringe bots. These guys always bring the Labyrinth goblins to mind.

Posted by: Amie | September 2, 2008, 11:02 am 11:02 am

Folks,
Comparing Obama’s experience with Palin’s is ridiculous. The district he represented in Chicago is larger than the biggest city in Alaska. The state he represented as Senator is at least ten times the size Alaska and much more diverse. And he was engaged in national politics while was engaged in local politics. I am not saying Obama carries a long resume but he has been the national scene for 18 months now and is a known quantity, like or dislike him. Palin has been known by the country for less than a week and will be involved in the race two months. Americans will not really know who she is come election day. The bottom line is McCain showed an incredible lack of judgement and while he pretends to be a maverick chose his candidate (foolishly) for the same reasons many candidates were chosen in the past. Politics gain and appeasing the base of his party.

Posted by: indy_voter | September 2, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am

Blah blah blah… enough whining! America needs to WAKE UP. The dark ages have to end with this presidency!!!
Vote for CHANGE! Vote Obama Biden 08!!!

Posted by: nomorelies | September 2, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am

McCain’s VP has a better than average chance at becoming President because of McCain’s advanced age. He’s not immortal. His father died at age 71.
The top-of-the-ticket-only-matters argument doesn’t fly this year.

Posted by: johnTX | September 2, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am

Watch out everyone. The ciruit is in town. Its main character: McCain, The Clown and his assistance: Paulin, the Pimp.
This is going to be the darkest chapter in History of America.

Posted by: Nic | September 2, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am

Jim: He’s been in elected office for over 10 years. In that time he has passed a number of laws. Ignoring the Lugar-Obama legislation signed into law about the time Palin was elected Governor (how controversial is securing loose nukes?), his time in the Illinois senate gives a 4000 vote long record. He also concieved, wrote and, in the face of initial bipartisan resistance and a veto promise, ultimate got passed into law the requirement that IL police videotape interrogations and confessions in serious crimes. It has turned out to be win-win – civil rights protected against over zealous police while prosecutors have solid damning evidence in the case of good interrogations.
Your turn. Specifically, what has Palin done?

Posted by: jhw539 | September 2, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am

The Neocon’s (Rove, Kristol, Limbaugh, Hannity & Co.) have pimped John McCain’s ride. How else can one explain the selection of a political neophyte of limited intellectual abilities for Vice President? It makes no sense, except that I think that the selection of a working class Governor with bona-fide Conservative values was designed to appeal to women and the Evangelical community. McCain is 72 years old with physical and mental health issues. Chances are he will die or had to step aside during his administration. Having the head of the PTA as President is hardly something which will give Americans confidence.

Posted by: Christopher London | September 2, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am

“Obama was voted to run for president by the American people; he WON the election”
American People-no Democratic primary voters and caucus goers. Still he didn’t even win. Hillary Clnton recieved more primary votes. Neithe rone had enough delgates to win.Obama was selected as nomineee by the DNC.

Posted by: geevill | September 2, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am

It is scary how many liberals can gather around and back a man who has done nothing but given a few, however great, speeches. I’d rather see a person with real life problems in the White House then someone who was spoon-fed from birth. Both Obama and Palin worked hard to get to where they are in life, and I commend both. It’s just hard to trust someone who says they can do so many things. Let’s be realistic, and throw out this controversy about Palin’s daughter. You cannot apply one person situation to policy, and for you nuts out there who say she should stay at home to take care of her daughter are so hypocritical it isn’t funny. You want women to be independent, strong, leaders yet, you want this one to stay at home and cook moose stew for the family. I think mainstream media should come out from their cloak that they report the news based on the “need for the populus to know”. It’s so funny how long CNN blab about Palin’s daughter yesterday, as FoxNews didn’t. They might as well split into two separate media entities. OneS that support the left, and the ONE that supports the right. It makes me sick to turn on the TV these days. Please just give me facts and not speculation.

Posted by: Lefties | September 2, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am

History will repeat itself. The mainstream media will ruthlessly bash the republican ticket because they loathe them, and the left will (as usual) overplay their hand.
And just like in 2000 and 2004 we will win again.
President McCain – get use to it. Get a recommendation for a therapist now. Beat the crowd.

Posted by: Jo | September 2, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am

No one is asking the real, possible reason Palin was chosen the Republican, and everyone is tied up wondering about her daughter, her experience, was she chosen because she is a woman and might get some of the Hillary voters that are displaced by Obama’s V.P. choice. This is the big reason I believe she was chosen— Republican’s want to drill for oil in Alaska and having her as V.P. Alaskian citizens would be so proud they are more likeily to vote to allow oil drilling. Other parts of the country will say; “Well, if they don’t mind drilling in there state! why then she we” and it will get passed through congress – no one is talking about the oil there, possible oil there. People wake-up thats the real reason mcCain chose her, the OIL!

Posted by: John | September 2, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am

That’s just great! Obama is going to go on TV and praise Palin just like he’s been doing for McCain for months. Sometimes I think he wants to lose this election. Why does he have to open his big mouth and give his take on Palin’s situation. If he says something good about her, it hurts him. If he says something bad about her, the press will hang him for being sexist. It’s lose lose no matter how you put it.

Posted by: Mike | September 2, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am

FYI, In Alaska the Alaska Independence Party is not a “Fringe Group.” People that opt to live in Alaska are not the soft-bellied whiners of the lower 48. They are much more independent minded.
The choice of Palin reflects McCain’s fear of Bob Barr more than anything else. Palin is libertarian leaning. He is obviosly hoping to lure the Bob Barr vote — and hoping the rest of you won’t notice.

Posted by: Carol | September 2, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am

“3) And most significantly, what message will voters hear about McCain’s judgment that he chose someone to be his running mate who has almost no national security experience and who is so much of an unknown quantity?”
The message I got is “if America is ready to elect someone with no experience, than rise up all white man a white woman is better than black man”

Posted by: J.jay | September 2, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am

McCain is either LAZY or INCOMPETENT: He got the nomination sewn up SIX months ago, and he made no attempt – NONE, ZIP, NADA – to send people up to Alaska to research this woman. Read the news stories.

Posted by: Vetter | September 2, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am

Yaknow, if you Repunklicans are so afraid of people using their rights in a democracy and occasionally kicking your golden gods out of office, why don’t you, you know, LEAVE THE COUNTRY?
I hear Argentina is nice this time of year.
Oh, now you guys are probably saying “How dare you?”, there’s that good ol’ Repunklican double standard again. That must explain why so many of you supported Hitler, but sneered at everyone who suggested that killing off “The Other Hitler” in Iraq might not be a great idea. And you suggested that anyone who thought otherwise leave the country.
Well guess what. We aren’t leaving. Ever. So pack your bags if you can’t handle it.

Posted by: Reality Checker | September 2, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am

Give it up…. GOP
Better and holy-ier than evenone GOP
GOD fearing and can do no Wrong GOP…
Last I check Bill is not running for President. Paulin is…
If you live in glass houses don’t throw stones…. You can’t forgive Bill but can forgive Paulin…
She needs to stay home and mend her fences. Poor kids…what a shelfish woman.

Posted by: bayo ojo | September 2, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am

Cher and Joaquin,
You both talk about Ayers and Reverand Wright. That is old news…just like McSame of old politics. No news here.
You guys need to get over your hatred and get use to President Obama. He will put extra mononies in your pockets.
You guys are so uniformed and and have hangups over the past.

Posted by: ob08 | September 2, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am

Posted by: lolly | September 2, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am

PALIN is TENNESSEE TALIBAN.
No contraceptives. No abortion.
1927 ruling on science in school.
Stop her now before she is president.
McCain wont last 8 years.
End rule by faith.

Posted by: Bruce Becker | September 2, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am

Sean:
WE continue down the path of smear? (Hookers and Blow??) WE are in denial? “I don’t even know Jeramiah Wright…I only went to his church for 20 years” (and people buy this?) Ha! You are funny!
Regarding the high gas prices” Does anybody here even know what oil futures are?

Posted by: Cher Fl | September 2, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am

I think it’s hilarious watching the die hard right wingers tie themselves in knots defending Palin’s choice as VP candidate. Suddenly, legislative experience doesn’t count for anything, meaning Pailin’s two years as Governor of Alaska makes her better qualified to be President than McCain! Giuliani sees a kindred spirit in a fellow mayor. Never mind that his city is 10 times the population of her state. Her biography, we are told, is her greatest asset, but evidently only those parts of her biography they want to publicize. She secured millions in earmarks for her city and her state, though she claims to oppose them. She cancelled the bridge to nowhere after campaigning for it and, no, she didn’t give the money back, just spent it on other projects in the country’s largest welfare state. She is a separatist. She is anti-choice. She opposes allowing teenagers to make informed decisions and reduce teenage pregnancies by increasing access to contraception and sexual education. She does not believe in evolution. She thinks we can drill our way out of our energy problems. And she supports socialist programs in which extra taxes are imposed on industry in order to provide wellfare checks to every Alaskan. Otherwise, she’s a great choice.

Posted by: fletc3her | September 2, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am

Stephanopoulos is a dork so what else is new

Posted by: Rogers | September 2, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am

Remember, there are only two candidates in this presidential race who put
Country BEFORE ME !!
Responsibility BEFORE Privilege !!!
Only two, who have stood up and challenged people within their own party.
McCain / Palin in November
Registered Democrat for McCain / Palin :)

Posted by: AsBee | September 2, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am

Who cares that the DUI was 22 years ago…
Can all you people out there making such a big deal about this like it is the biggest breaking news out there honestly tell me that you’ve never had more than the legal limit of alcohol at some point in your lives and then driven a car afterwards? Maybe you were just lucky you didn’t get caught and issued a DUI, too!
And can any of us say that we dont have a connection to either a friend or family member who has gotten pregnant unwed at a young age? Barack himself has said his mother was only 18 when she had him (and he was conceived before his parents wed). It doesn’t make Palin a bad mother. When kids reach a certain age, you can’t control everything they choose to do.
Also, why is every story about Biden so jolly? If we are going to bring up every flaw about Palin…why is the media not bringing equal negative coverage to Biden, who plagarized while he was in law school and finished at the bottom half of his class. Do your research before you criticize. However, I don’t think things from 20+ years back in any of the candidates past really need to be brought up unless they are extremely heinous. All of them have their share of sins and shortcomings.

Posted by: CAE | September 2, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am

Posted by: Shannon | Sep 2, 2008 10:03:09 AM ……ask the same questions of the Obamanation!

Posted by: Chuck | September 2, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am

You people are nut-jobs! You better get your favorite mind altering substance ready because you are not going to be able to handle reality when McCain smokes Oboma in November. It’s a done deal with his selection of Palin.

Posted by: tim | September 2, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am

Obama’s first test in foreign policy was with his response to the Georgia-Russia conflict. It was so pathetically weak that he changed his response after McCain made his.
Barack Obama has no business at the top of the ticket. He has no clue about foreign policy. I’ll take my chances on McCain and his health. I’m not willing to take a chance with Obama who isn’t ready from the get go.

Posted by: Beth | September 2, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am

“As Commander of the Alaska Natl Guard, last year Palin visited the troops overseas, including those wounded in Germany.
As a guy who wants to be COMMANDER IN CHIEF of the U.S. Military, Obama couldn’t be bothered to visit the wounded.
Difference? HUGE.”
People like you make me sick. You wait just long enough so people forget, AND THEN YOU COMPLETELY GET THE FACTS WRONG.
Obama was adviceds by WASHINGTON that visiting the troops as a SENATOR is ok, by visiting the troops AS A CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT is useing the troops as a political ploy. Obama, who had his campaign people and security with him, decided not to USE the SOLDIERS as PAWNS in his campaign.
Obama made a decision to not see the troops because he knew that he would be called a monster for “using the troops to win a campaign” which is worse then “refusing to see the troops.”
The reason why washington said it is not fair for him to see the troops is that only a Senator really has the power to do it. How is that fair to a presidential nominee who is not a Senator?
You blame Obama for playing fairly, and not abusing his power as Senator to win the campaign. You make me sick.

Posted by: Tim | September 2, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am

The governor’s spokesperson claimed that after a long flight from Texas, her child Trig was born at the Mat-Su Regional hospital on 18 April.
That hospital has an online listing of births and there is no entry for a child with that name. Was it a clerical error that they forgot to list the birth of the governor’s child?
http://www.matsuregional.com/nursery/show_day.php?month=04&year=2008&day=18
http://www.matsuregional.com/nursery/nursery_calendar.php

Posted by: JoeC | September 2, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am

Open your eyes: Senator Obama has only one working day in the U.S. senate? Have you lost all touch with reality?

Posted by: jhw539 | September 2, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am

Open your eyes: Senator Obama has only one working day in the U.S. senate? Have you lost all touch with reality?

Posted by: jhw539 | September 2, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am

I never considered abortion rights as one of my concerns until this woman’s misfortunes reminded me of what can happen to any of us.
Her anti-abortion position would REQUIRE parents to give birth to hopelessly seriously handicapped children. It would also mandate that a young child, like her own daughter, have a child.

Posted by: Von Syboldt | September 2, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am

Wow, what an idiot. Horny McSame who doesn’t know how many houses he owns, turns around on a podium and becomes disoriented and left his wife who had become disabled while he was on military tour to marry a rich blond, probably just wants to have sex with Palin. That’s how the Republicans operate:
* they tell you that homosexuality is wrong while the men have sex teenage boys and solicit sex in airport bathrooms
* they tell you they are the party of family values while their daughters are having sex at 16 years of age
* they tell you they are the party of faith while they pull out all the stops to make SURE we go to war and that THEIR friends are getting paid very well for it
* they tell you the democrats are going to raise your taxes while they cut taxes for their rich friends leaving YOU holding the tax bill EVERY SINGLE TIME
Will somebody please get rid of this pack of demons and bring back what USED to be the Republican party and platform??

Posted by: carson grey | September 2, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am

>Obama is diseased with egomania
>Hitler & Stalin were diseased with egomania, Present leaders of North Korea & Iran are diseased with egomania
>Obama is endorsed by Hamas
>Obama has radical anti-american friends
>Obama is in bed with slum landlords
>Obama has no experience
>Obama cannot be trusted to be truthful
etc…
Sara’s daughter is knocked up !!!
We best vote for Obama !!!
Wake Up America !!!

Posted by: Comparison | September 2, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am

This just means the Liberal news and the Obama trolls are picking on them

Posted by: Rogers | September 2, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am

brit1 said:
“Americans are not interested in prying into someone else’s life.”
This unfortunately is not the case, but it has nothing to do with the Palin uproar. What matters is that 1)Palin lied to the American people and 2)she is willing to throw her children to the wolves to realize her ambitions.
NOT a very good mother, not a good choice for VP.

Posted by: JudiNV | September 2, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am

Get over it Stephanopoulos. Maybe you can’t remember when your BOSS had all those sexual problems IN the White House. What about Obama’s drug use. Palin has more qualifications to bring to Washington than Obama. Besides – it’s about time that women moved up to the White House. The guys don’t seem to be doing so well – as a whole. You Democraps are just sick that Obama wasn’t as smart as McCain to pick a lady.

Posted by: Ron | September 2, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am

With all due respect, this is the Palin’s personal situation and I don’t think this should be used against her. The lady is smart and intelligent, besides she is very baeutiful. Give her a chance, she will do well. Let’s not create a political circus, let’s talk about the issues that that affects this great country amd how they are solvable…Leave Palin’s personal life out and let’s focus on the real issues. We need to understand this beautiful and intelligent person…..

Posted by: Rajah | September 2, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am

It is the best gift Mccain could have given to Obama yet by chosing Palin. I am enjoying this circus around Palin’s pick. It was never a doubt Mccain would have lost the election but after Palin’s pick he practically sealed Obama’s victory.

Posted by: tony cook | September 2, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am

ok, lets say they knew all this and felt it was still worth the gamble. lets look at the other gamble. they cannot spin out of saying unwed, unsafe sex between consenting CHILDREN is okay. they are saying they celebrate it and the evangelical croud is going along. is this what dobson means by focus on the family?. mcsame is not the only one living in the dark ages.

Posted by: THE curious black | September 2, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am

This election 08 was about WOMEN, sadly Dems did’nt get it.
It was Great choice from John McCain to understand the sentiments and the undercurrents that flow and act accordingly.
Now Obama hate Machine have zeroed on Palin. Back Off!!
McCain-Palin 08

Posted by: vic | September 2, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am

geevill,
You are scary. President Obama has way more executive experience plus his time in the senate compare to lier Palin.
You are pathetic with your lies.
Change is coming – vote President Obama.

Posted by: ob08 | September 2, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am

She has just as much “national security” experience as Obama. Everyone at some point in their lives has had things happen that they are not proud of. If you dig deep enough you can find something bad about every person. I am surprised that the “change” (Obama supporters) people say they believe in change, but do not allow people to change. Good one! You all are a bunch of hypocrites. I am quite impressed with McCain’s choice.

Posted by: Andrew | September 2, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am

PALIN was PARTY SECRETARY of a secessionist party in Alaska. She was not just a young woman voting for Alaskan independence. She was an officer of the party.
Its entire purpose is to secede from the union and then have a vote on whether to be a commonwealth, independent nation or apply for statehood.
Since Alaska is already a state, if such a measure were to pass their election, Alaska would become a commonwealth or independent nation.
PALIN wears a giant flag pin. Dont fall for it.
Her actions were counter to the oath of office and the pledge of allegiance: ONE NATION, INDIVISIBLE. She worked and helped the process, to make Alaska ‘free’ of the USA.

Posted by: Bruce Becker | September 2, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am

Dear George,
Here are the questions that all Democratic Operatives (including you) should have asked yourselves several weeks ago:
1) What else is out there about Obama? What else can we do to help elect a guy who has less executive experience than Sarah Palin?
2) Can we be less objective and profession in our reporting? We need to work on our snide comments and continue to make fun of the way she talks and looks!
3) And most significantly, what lameass excuses are we going to use when the McCain-Palin ticket wins in November? Obviously we will need to point out the ignorance and stupidity of the voters in the most condescending and demeaning manner possible.

Posted by: Chuck Ruth | September 2, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am

Quoth J:
“Hold on a second – aren’t DEMOCRATS always saying that their the party of people who understand teen pregnancy, drug use, free-will, people shouldn’t be overly scrutinized when they make a poor life decision blah, blah…yet when it’s a Republican who faces the same issue, all of sudden the DEMS find some kind of moral pulpit to bully from”
Leaving aside your misspelling, the reason Democrats are making this an issue is because the Republicans go on and on about so-called “family values,” which manifestly do *not* include unmarried teens having babies. So when the Republican VP candidate’s daughter does just that, one has to wonder about the strength of her mother’s commitment to those “family values.”

Posted by: Rob | September 2, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am

Jo, darling – having fun doing damage control? I said I was concerned about her political position and tight connections to the Oil Industry. We’ll have arrived at gender equality when a woman can run not, uncriticized, but criticized for her character and ideas. The oil industry in power has done a “heckuva job” the last eight years.

Posted by: SFranz | September 2, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am

A Tom Eagletom for another age!
Let’s see… Ms Palin is determined to fight coruuption, but she’s under investigation for abuse of power.
Ms Palin is against earmarks, but she lobbied for the Bridge to Nowhere (“I was for it before I was against it”); she received $27-million in earmarks and a mayor, and she’s asking for $131-million more as governor.
Ms Palin is “America First,” but she was an active member of an Alaskan secessionist group, and gave the keynote address at their 2008 convention. The group’s stated strategy is “to infiltrate the major parties to help achieve our secessionist goals.”
Ms Palin is 100% for abstinence-only education, yet her home-schooled unmarried daughter got pregnant at 16.
Ms Palin is unwaveringly “pro-life,” yet she supports slaughtering wolves by hunting them from aircraft (how sporting!) and disregards the recommendations of her own, hand-picked experts regarding the survival of polar bears as a species.
Ms Palin has executive experience — as mayor of a town of 7,000, and as a 1-1/2-year governor of a state with more moose han people. The fact is, there are school district superintendents who oversee a bigger budget, larger staff, and greater population than the Governor of Alaska.
Her husband’s DUI is meaningless; the fact that he does not support the Republican agenda is not.
And this only a couple of days into her nomination. Speaks volumes about McCain’s judgement.

Posted by: Cynic | September 2, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am

Don’t forget:
They tell us that Democrats are Tax-and-spend liberals while this Republican leaves the biggest deficit in history.
They say Democrats are for big gov’t while the government under the Republicans has BALLOONED.
And don’t forget how Karl Rove gets his playbook from the Nazi propaganda guide!
GOP = Grand Ole Propaganda

Posted by: justin | September 2, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am

Maybe some people think that a group whose stated goal is to secede from the United States of America isn’t fringe, but we Americans believe that that is a treasonous act.
We fought a war with the South when they tried to secede where over half a million people died. We take that kind of talk very seriously.

Posted by: johnTX | September 2, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am

As a life-long Conservative Republican, I am very disappointed in Sen. McCain’s choice for Vice President. Not only does she and her family lack conservative values and principles, she has no national experience whatsoever. Her ties to the secessionist Alaska Independence Party, pork-barreling politics, and poor choices by her family demonstrate that she’s not capable of effectively running herself not her family. These certainly demonstrate she’s not ready to run the United States of America. My message to Sen. McCain: Resend your nomination of Palin and pick someone worthy of being Vice President of the United States.

Posted by: John Smith | September 2, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am

TTRO – Throw the Rascals Out.
This applies to most of them. Why would anyone want to run for political office ? If you don’t have any black sheep or events in your family, someone will make something up. No one is without flaws and certainly no family is flawless. While there are many who ran for office to help their communities, etc., there are so many who have become corrupted in their quest to improve our nation.
There are too many political benefits for those elected. Talk about pork barrel projects; take a look at the benefits to those who are elected.
. . . Raises, Retirement, Medical Care . . . to name only a few. While the government continues to operate with a non-balanced budged. Does your project need money? – just get on the bandwagon, the government will credit your account or send you a check drawn on a government account that is funded by the government itself. The government gets the money from the IRS collections (us) and ‘creates’ from thin air the rest of the money.
Don’t get this wrong. The government must operate on a balanced budget; the same as individuals must. If you spend more than you have available, you get into financial trouble if you cannot pay it back. This country is in financial and social trouble and may now be in too deep for our politicians to admit they have and continue to fail.
We are a wasteful society built on cheap energy. Now that energy is more expensive, we see the obvious. Waste not, want not continues to come to mind. Something a friend likes to quote.
If you cannot balance the budget, none of you need to be in Washington. This does not mean no social security, no social programs, no military, etc. – just balance the budget and be accountable. How difficult is that to understand?
Still don’t get it? Then for the next 5 years, spend twice your annual income and see what happens.

Posted by: Reader Also | September 2, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am

During Senator Obama’s first 8 eight months of elected service he sponsored over 820 bills.
He introduced 233 bills regarding healthcare reform,
125 bills on poverty and public assistance,
112 bills on crime fighting,
97 economic bills,
60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills,
21 ethics reform bills,
15 gun control,
6 veterans affairs and many others.
In his first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These included:
(1)the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 that became LAW,
(2)The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act that became LAW, (3)The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act that passed the Senate,
(4)The 2007 Government Ethics Bill that became LAW,
(5)The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill that is in committee just to name a few.
In all since he entered the U.S. Senate, Senator Obama has written 890 bills and co-sponsored another 1096. An impressive record, for someone who supposedly has no legislative record.

Posted by: Obama08 | September 2, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am

Honestly, Republicans, it’s over. From the way you’re talking, it sounds like some of you are still in shock. Look at the (conservative) Rasmussen poll that just came out today. McCain’s candidacy is as dead now as Hillary’s was four months ago.
It’s over.
Start planning for 2012.

Posted by: Matthew | September 2, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am

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Posted by: Wendy | September 2, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am

The contrast is quite clear between McCain and Obama.
The McCain campaign goes after Obama for his lack of experience and poor judgment.
The Obama campaign goes after McCain’s choice for running mate.
And, Old Joe Biden still plays babysitter for the Obamas…

Posted by: Jayhawk | September 2, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am

TIM,
If this pick strengthens your vote then you are smoking the same stuff Geevil is. This pick was incredibly foolish.

Posted by: indy_voter | September 2, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am

“Open your eyes: Senator Obama has only one working day in the U.S. senate? Have you lost all touch with reality?”
There are 15 Presidents that HAVE NO EXPERIENCE IN THE US SENATE. I guess this is proof that Obama has the experience needed.

Posted by: Tim | September 2, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am

Ah, the Perils of Pauline: Do I invade NOW or do I eat this mooseburger first?

Posted by: Vetter | September 2, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am

Thank you, John McCain, for handing the upcoming election to the Democrats! You truly ARE an idiot!

Posted by: Amy G | September 2, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am

Most of the comments here are comical. The fact that Palin’s daughter is pregnant has NOTHING to do with ANYTHING. This information will be used by her detractors simply to distract everyone from salient issues. Palin has MORE experience than Obama and yet Democrats have given that gentleman the “headlining postion” on their ticket. This race will now be VERY close.

Posted by: Bill | September 2, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am

democrat economic policy has always been for taking more money out of the citizens hands and spending it. repubs lower taxes and let the people make their own economic decisions.

Posted by: steve | September 2, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am

McCain did what any red blooded sailor would have done – picked the hottest woman qualified to attend state funerals and check on the health of the president daily.
She’s much easier on the eyes than Joe Lieberman…
He still has my vote.

Posted by: will | September 2, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am

Incidentally, I *do* happen to think Ms. Palin’s daughter’s condition is irrelevant and a private matter (likewise her husband’s DUI). Let’s look at Ms. Palin’s qualifications to be VP or President.
Me, I’m voting for Obama either way, but the question is how many of our citizens will do likewise? Obama’s VP pick has experience coming out his proverbial ears, whereas Ms. Palin’s affiliation with a secessionist party makes her a somewhat questionable choice. If she abused her power for personal reasons, then she’s certainly not someone I want in the White House.

Posted by: Rob | September 2, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am

Most of Obama’s Senate voting record:
Absent or Present…

Posted by: Jayhawk | September 2, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am

If McCain can’t be bothered to get the facts before choosing his Vice President, how can he be trusted to get the facts before something like going to war?

Posted by: Michael | September 2, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am

Wing nuts who think the Hillary crowd are going to vote for this secessionist, earmark-seeking dingbat just because she’s similarly anatomically equipped are NUTS!!!!!!

Posted by: Vetter | September 2, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am

WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE REPORTERS?
Why is Palin’s approval of (even brief membership in) a secessionist party not treasonous — 100 times worse than any of the other stuff about her people are complaining about?
It shows her to be totally anti-American. Where is our responsible journalism?

Posted by: Eric Howlett | September 2, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am

Was the authenticity of Obama’s birth certificate vetted yet? His citizenship is questioned because there are family members who witnessed his birth in Kenya? His mother married and divorced Indonesian man who adopted Obama? The actual birth certificate document appears to have been forged. Apparently candidates have to be citizens to be eligible to run for President…..
Check out http://www.obamacrimes.com/

Posted by: francine223 | September 2, 2008, 11:16 am 11:16 am

Was the authenticity of Obama’s birth certificate vetted yet? His citizenship is questioned because there are family members who witnessed his birth in Kenya? His mother married and divorced Indonesian man who adopted Obama? The actual birth certificate document appears to have been forged. Apparently candidates have to be citizens to be eligible to run for President…..
Check out http://www.obamacrimes.com/

Posted by: francine223 | September 2, 2008, 11:16 am 11:16 am

Mostly what bothers me is Palin’s membership in the anti-American (and downright treasonous) Alaska Independence Party.

It is not treasonous. It does not seek to undermine the sovereignty of America, which is what the word treason means. It contends that Alaskans, according to UN rules, should have been given 4 options in 1958: to remain a territory, to become an independent nation, to become a state of the USA or to be granted commonwealth status. Self-governing territories are supposed to have that right. Also, US military personnel voted and that’s against the rules. They want the vote re-taken.
Much more unfortunate for Palin, and the American people, is Vogler (the founder of the AIP)’s comments that he has no use to the US and her “goddamn institutions” which sounds a lot like the screed of a Jeremiah Wright. So it looks like American self-hatred has reached the top of the tree on both branches now. Very unfortunate. The goings-on in Georgia show how much the world needs a strong America.

Posted by: dg | September 2, 2008, 11:16 am 11:16 am

Obviously Palin wasn’t vetted properly. Choosing Palin reflects on McCain’s ability to make sound judgments. You mean to tell me that Palin is a better pick than former Sec. of Homeland Security Tom Ridge or Gov. Mitt Romney or even Gov. Tim Pawlenty?
It’s amusing to see GOP hacks trying to justify Palin’s “experience” credentials. Do you really want this person to be a heartbeat away from the presidency? Give me a break!!!

Posted by: Jennifer | September 2, 2008, 11:17 am 11:17 am

Will you idiots please stop trying to make the ridiculous argument that Palin is more experienced than Obama? You are making fools of yourselves. No one believes that, even you. Obama was making Senate trips to Iraq years ago, when Palin was the mayor of a village half the size of my university campus.

Posted by: Matthew | September 2, 2008, 11:17 am 11:17 am

I don’t care about Paline’s daughter. I care about Paline’s demonstration of her family values as advocated by her as public policy.

Posted by: Vetter | September 2, 2008, 11:17 am 11:17 am

Bill is right…this is comical..if this VEEP pick is handing the democrats the presidency. WHY all the outrage and hostility on their part? Really, I’m asking if someone can answer that. Why not congratulate Mccain and silently snicker to yourselves if you are so happy?

Posted by: THINK | September 2, 2008, 11:17 am 11:17 am

Jessica TX,
So, just how is McCain a 26 year veteran of the Senate and Palin, a political novice going to change Washington. The answer is, they aren’t. The difference in the change message is McCain is a Republican and therefore will continue if not all of the policies that have led to the mess we’re and Obama is a Democrat and will set new direction and policy. I understand Republicans don’t that type of change but it is the change this country needs.

Posted by: indy_voter | September 2, 2008, 11:18 am 11:18 am

Found some photos of Wallisa Alaska on mudflats.wordpress.com
Interesting……..very interesting.

Posted by: lolly | September 2, 2008, 11:18 am 11:18 am

Just look at us. Aren’t we all so pretty? Could it be that our unelected campain aparachiks are guiding us all into the gaping chasm of eventual obscurity? I mean, really, the race to the bottom may have been instigated by the rightwing neo-cons ten years ago. Looks like the liberal camp is making something of a comeback but how does all this make for a better America. Sara Palin brings to mind Peggy Hill dressed for success. Not important…not even close when compared to the real issues. What would Thomas Jefferson think? I think he would be holding his nose in response to the entire reek of American politics wherein the personal foibles trump statesmanship/leadership. The Republican ticket appears to stumbling under the weight of its own hypocracy. Please,please lets not reduce ourselves to their level.

Posted by: keith | September 2, 2008, 11:18 am 11:18 am

Compared to Biden, I’ll take that “fresh air” from Alaska no matter how many hidden skeletons she’s got in her closet!

Posted by: True Patriot | September 2, 2008, 11:19 am 11:19 am

McCain has made a real blunder
That has made the whole country wonder,
Was she the best pick
This chick from the sticks
To lead us when he’s six feet under?

Posted by: Diane W. | September 2, 2008, 11:19 am 11:19 am

Two questions:
1. Does the DNC pay Stephanopoulos to be a Democratic whore and slant the news to the left’s positions?
2. When are we going to get the Media Anal Exam of High Profile Democrats? Heck, the Enquirer broke the John Edwards Love Child story…

Posted by: Eddie | September 2, 2008, 11:19 am 11:19 am

Palin is nice… but not ready to lead.

Posted by: blip | September 2, 2008, 11:19 am 11:19 am

This was the worst VP pick in history. Many of my GOP friends are claiming this is going to “do McCain in” in November. The GOP are not saying it in public, but they know this was the biggest screwup ever.
Not too long ago I supported McCain over Obama because I did not believe Obama was ready to tackle the job. After the last month (and in particular the last few days) I have changed my vote to Obama. Because it appears that Mr. McCain is DEFINITELY not ready to tackle the job and Obama is.

Posted by: scadiddle | September 2, 2008, 11:19 am 11:19 am

There are obviously many fine qualities about Sarah Palin. Her leadership and popularity as Governor of Alaska are clear for all to see. Her personal story is remarkable. Her experience on international matters is not deep, but neither is Obama’s. Why is is that the liberal hate groups are so determined to tear down and smear this person and her family? And why does so much of the media follow them, fanning flames of innuendo and doubt and participating in an orchestrated character assasination? They should be ashamed. They would never do the same to Obama. Let’s let this refreshing new person on the national scene speak about the issues and problems of America and the concerns of the American people. If you do not agree with her and John McCain, or you do not like them, fine. But do not shout down with smear tactics Sarah Palin, and do not attack her family.

Posted by: Bill | September 2, 2008, 11:19 am 11:19 am

matthew, so you are saying that obama visiting iraq qualifies as foreign policy experience? than i have some friends who have served in iraq that have more experience than obama. terrible example.

Posted by: steve | September 2, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am

As I saw on another post, “Obama has more skeletons in his closet than Petsmart has bones”. Add that to the fact that he is totally inexperienced, and you actually have some lefties screaming that she is a poor VICE Presidential choice? Please, your Presidential choice is the worst in history! No experience, unsavory associations, racist/bigot friends, a Socialist/Marxist agenda, actively trying to subvert the First Amendment, where does it end? God forbid in an Obama presidency!

Posted by: FlaLady | September 2, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am

You have got to be kidding me. This is the best you liberals can come up with? Her 17 year-old daughter had a baby. Her DAUGHTER. If you want to talk about whether sexual exploits should have any bearing on whether or not someone should be in the White House, let’s talk about Bill Clinton. That was the man himself, not his daughter. And who cares if they didn’t go public with the news? It was a family matter that has no bearing on her qualifications. Then there’s the matter of her husband’s DUI back in the eighties. So what? That accusation is not even worthy of a comment other than to say that it was two decades ago. Oh, yeah, and also that it was her HUSBAND, not herself.

Posted by: Mark | September 2, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am

Face it. She has five kids… She should be at home where she belongs. The presidency or vice presidency is not a job for women..period.
Obama/Biden 08!

Posted by: Jim in Seattle | September 2, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am

Cindy McCain and various GOP pundits claim that Palin has foreign policy experience because Alaska is close to Russia!!
She’s only been outside of the country twice in her life (Germany and Iraq), but yet people still want to pump her up as this spectacular candidate!!

Posted by: Jennifer | September 2, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am

Oran’s Dictionary of the Law (1983) defines treason as: “…[a]…citizen’s actions to help a foreign government overthrow, make war against, or seriously injure the [parent nation].” In many nations, it is also often considered treason to attempt or conspire to overthrow the government, even if no foreign country is aided or involved by such an endeavor.
Seceding from the US is considered or even planning it s considered conspiring the overthrow the government (the federal government).
After the American Civil War, no person involved with the Confederate States of America was tried for treason, though a number of leading Confederates (including Jefferson Davis and Robert E. Lee) were indicted. Those who had been indicted received a blanket amnesty issued by President Andrew Johnson as he left office in 1869.
Without that blanket amnesty, people in the Confederate States would have been guilty of treason for seceding from the United States.
The Alaska Independence Party is very much a treasonous organization. Even if we won’t prosecute them, they are fully anti-American.

Posted by: johnTX | September 2, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am

I have made many, many trips overseas. I am qualified to be President, or at least Secretary of State, no?
Trips don’t mean squat. It’s the knowledge and intellectual acuity.
Palin admitted she wasn’t even CURIOUS about anything outside of Alaska. Until the phone call from the senile old fart.

Posted by: Vetter | September 2, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am

No matter how much the dems want to say Palin has little exprence, Obama has less and he is running for president not VP. I would also like to see obama’s full medical records be released. Palins Husband may of had a drinking issue 22 years ago, which says nothing about her by the way, but Obama had a drug problem. however, Its nice to see the Media back on their heels picking on a VP candidate for issues that do not really matter. Try pussing your agenda bassed on real issues and lets see who wins the Palin vs Obama fight. Just remember she is just a VP candidate. I Love watching the leftest media all sweating. Its Great!!!
Craig

Posted by: Craig | September 2, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am

bad judgement, horrible judgement. mccain is “dumb” enough to believe that any woman would do. this really insults the intelligence of every person in this country.

Posted by: mike johnson | September 2, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am

I’m going to get dizzy from the Rove-spin in the next week …
GO BARACK & JOE !!
Please please please THINK before you vote, y’all.

Posted by: Bud | September 2, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am

ObamaO8: that’s pure bull. Emil Jones, Jr. authored 95% of those bills and let Obama take credit for them. Look it up.

Posted by: Jaycee | September 2, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am

McCain sent his lawyers up to Alaska on Thursday to look into “Troopergate”, then announced Palin on Friday.
McCain spent one day picking his VP! ONE DAY!
It all reminds me of Bush and his rush to war in Iraq.
It’s an arrogant, out of touch, and dangerous man who thinks he can “shoot from the hip” when it comes to the safety and prosperity of my family.

Posted by: blip | September 2, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am

We have had a run of Governors, and Congressmen as Presidents … the last long-term Senator to serve as President was Lyndon Johnson, Nixon was Senator for California from 1950 to ’52, when he became VP.
Ford and Bush I were Congressmen; Carter, Reagan, Clinton and Bush II were Governors; Bush I was also CIA Director, Ambassador to the UN, & Envoy to China.
Time to redress the balance here … at least the next President is bound to be a Senator. Its the one after than I am worried about.

Posted by: toby | September 2, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am

What mother would not care about the psychological health of her 17 year old pregnant daughter and display her pregnancy to the world because of her own political ambitions … Sarah Palin knew this would come out and a mother with good judgement and true family values would think about protecting her child’s psychological health … her decision to accept the nomination shows poor judgement …

Posted by: dcp | September 2, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am

curious,
The difference between Democrats (men or women) having small children at home and running for office and Republicans is that Democrats have not made it an issue. If Sarah Palin can juggle it more power to her. But Republican conservatives to stop with the hypocrisy and finger pointing at Democrats who do so as well too. What I rail against is the hypocrisy shown by conservatives on this issue.

Posted by: indy_voter | September 2, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am

Note: I entirely disavow the “Rob” who said “Men only from now on.” That’s a different Rob. Mine are the two recent posts at 11:10:51 and 11:15:06.
The idea that a woman shouldn’t be in the White House is absurd, and always has been. Go back to the 18th Century, Rob.

Posted by: RobMAMN | September 2, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am

Judging by the comments here I think Obabma supporters are TERRIFIED of Sarah Palin. I liked HRC and I like Palin. Folks you demean yourselves when you talk about her pregnant daughter. Obama said Bristol is off limits and reminded people his mother was only 18 when he was born.

Posted by: Dee | September 2, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am

Obama’s drug problem is with tobacco, that’s no secret. I’m sure “W” did more coke than Barack ever imagined.

Posted by: Bud | September 2, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am

I voted for Mccain in the 2000 primary for what appeared to be a great sense of integrity, sound judgment, and the ability to think clearly and independently. When he stood at that podium in 2004 and supported GW and hugged him, I saw a man who sold himself out, swallowed his pride, a man willing to do anything and stoop to any level to get elected. I felt ashamed for him and for this country. HE lost my vote 4 years ago for being just another stooge.

Posted by: eric | September 2, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am

When we think Vice Presdient, the first thing we think is 2nd in command to our country. I don’t know what McCain was thinking, Sarah Palin is not qualified to be 2ndin command to my country. From what I have read about her I actually really like her, she should be very proud of her career accomplishments. But I think it was a insult to the american voters that the McCain camp
thought if he put a woman..any woman…on his ticket that he would get the “gender vote”. Okay so McCain wasn’t doing all of the decision making on this….who does he have on his team that is? Is this the team we need in the White House. I am an Indepentdent voter, I truly look at the candidate not the party. McCain has just sent my indendent vote to O’Bama. Also, I would like to make the comment that if Sarah was so excited and proud to be a Grandparent why did she not mention she was going to be a grandparent before this? She could have mentioned it in her acceptance speech when the entire family was there to support her
daughter in this challenge she faces as a young mother. But she did not, instead she put her daughter right out there on
the “firing line” alone to now be
judged by the entire counrty. A good
mother would not have jepordised her child’s emotional and mental health just to climb the political latter. Sarah has her plate full right now she needs to get her priorites straight.
She sounds like she is doing a fine job governing the state of Alaska, she now needs to put some effort into being a thoughtful and compassionate mother. What if this 17 year old daughter starts shouldering the blame for the “bad press” her mother is receiving? A thoughtful and comassionate mother would have considered her daughter’s emotional health in this matter.

Posted by: Sallie Taylor | September 2, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am

this whole bush=mccain is the most uninformed platform i have ever heard. i just hope people are not dumb enough to blindly follow this lead.

Posted by: steve | September 2, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am

The joke initially was that Sarah Palin was John McCain’s Harriet Myers. But the joke seems awfully close to coming true at this point.

Posted by: dennisk | September 2, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am

You people make me sick.
You’re supposed to be adults, but you’re all engaged in mindless name-calling and rumor-mongering, rather than in logical, political debate.
Dems and Repubs alike are guilty. I am SO SICK of seeing these types of comments! I am so DISGUSTED with the American people!
You ought to be ashamed of yourselves!

Posted by: Emily | September 2, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am

Incidentally, I happen to think Barack Obama’s past drug use is relevant as opposed to the conduct of any of the spouses of candidates or their VP’s. Always remember Obama’s lack of qualification and experience and his tendency to be a crowd pleaser and flip-flopper.
As for me, I’m voting for “Anybody But Obama.” That could be McCain, Nader, or PeeWee Herman. And, from the numbers emerging in the polls, a substantially growing number of voters will do the same in November. After all, the choice of VP (such as “Old Joe Biden”, the Obama babysitter) is of secondary consideration.
Listen up to your messiah, Obama supporters. Obama has declared family, especially children, as off-limits. In the socialist regime framework you will all do as you are told or get cut off from the government dole…

Posted by: Jayhawk | September 2, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am

I’m just really glad that Barack Obama, John McCain, Joe Biden and Sarah Palin are ALL a lot more intelligent than 95% of the hateful, rude, bitterly partisan people posting on this board. You people are scary. No class whatsoever.

Posted by: J | September 2, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am

This is a bombshell no matter which way you cut it– and the double speak by some is noteworthy.
Yes, unwed teenagers get pregnant in America. However, the public messages that deride this ‘behavior’ as indicative of a lack of family values or some other social defect seem to always stem from the conservative wings of our enthusiastic poltical spectrum.
And now, one who has led the charge of social conservatism has had it happen to her own daughter. Personally, I empathize- this brings it home. Problem is, she’s running for VP of the USA, and was brought in to rally a conservative base that has stiff-armed McCain for his ‘aisle briding’ work. Who will listen to her now?

Posted by: indytucker | September 2, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am

The question I would be asking McCain is what kind of message is he sending to voters choosing Sarah Palin as his VP?
Promoting religious-based programs like abstinence and teaching creationsims in the classroom is good use of federal and state money? Exploiting rather than protecting our environment will be part of his reform package? Three day maternity leaves are sufficiant for woman in the workplace?
There is no such thing as “supermom” “superwoman” and Sarah Palin drives home the point about what happens when people promote themselves as such.

Posted by: Donna | September 2, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am

For whomever the person was that tried to belittle Obama’s trips overseas to Iraq, the Middle East and Europe over the years, the main distinction is that Obama consulted with foreign leaders and commanders on the ground. He’s visited many military bases abroad, and he has gained respect of leaders from abroad and across party lines in Washington.

Posted by: Jennifer | September 2, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am

Rob, you are dead on. I’m an Obama supporter and I AM terrified of the possibility of this redneck mama becoming the president of my country.

Posted by: Bud | September 2, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am

I am no Obama fan. This is a choice between two evils:
Does America want a right-wing control freak bimbo from Northern Exposure for president (remember McCain is 72 with health issues)?

Posted by: Vetter | September 2, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am

With all his 26 years experience in Washington, McCain couldn’t run a Presidential campaign. He kept changing advisers at every turn, blaming them for his own ineptitude and poor judgment. How the heck is he going to run America?
Here was a man who ran against GW Bush 8 years ago, and failed. You would think that gave him some experience, but he has continued to falter again.
If this is what experience is all about, we prefer the fresh senator who is running a flawless campaign without the mud-slinging.
That Senator who was right on the Iraq withdrawal time table before the Iraqis insisted on one.
The Senator who said we needed to talk to Iran before Bush ordered Rice to get together with the Iranians.
That Senator who is knowledgable and articulate enough to hold his own against any other leader in the world. The Senator who will not substitute tough talk and empty threats for sound foreign policy.
Obama is everything McCain wished he was.
OBAMA/BIDEN ALL THE WAY!!

Posted by: Luckdress | September 2, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am

jayhawk: “Most of Obama’s Senate voting record:
Absent or Present…”
Compared to Senator McCain, who is mostly absent (in 2007 he didn’t even make enough votes to qualify to be ranked on that infamous ‘most liberal’ list Senator Obama headed). And in IL he made over 4000 votes, only about 130 of them were ‘present.’ Present votes were usually for clear strategy reasons (at the direction of the party chair) or for arcane constitutional objection reasons (he supported the ideals of the legislation but objected due to a constitutional technicality – he is by training a constitutional wonk).

Posted by: jhw539 | September 2, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am

liberals are scared to death of this woman–and they should be.

Posted by: captainmike | September 2, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am

In defense of McCain’s choice (and there seems little of that), change is difficult and Obama, who incessantly talks about change, isn’t going to change anything. Let’s talk about the big white elephant in the room that nobody is talking about. Most of the federal budget goes to entitlements. Who is going to change that? And how? With less than 20% of the budget going to discretionary items the president and congress have no power to change anything unless they figure out the hard problems related to entitlements. Yes, Palin is a wildcard. But that’s the only way things are really going to change. Change is the mantra but it seems that people want change without anything being different.

Posted by: MattR | September 2, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am

Non-issues: daughter’s pregnancy and husband DUI
Issues: abuse of power allegation(s), earmarks, bridge flip flop and fringe group membership, McCain probably clueless about all of it.

Posted by: ZenNonna | September 2, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am

has somebody given her a geography test?

Posted by: George | September 2, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am

has somebody given her a geography test?

Posted by: George | September 2, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am

No she hags with repubs and that is as radical as you can get. What a sad day in america,just through us anything and make the spin. Mc Cain is one for the books as being history

Posted by: pia | September 2, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am

Non-issues: daughter’s pregnancy and husband DUI
Issues: abuse of power allegation(s), earmarks, bridge flip flop. 527/Ted Stevens and fringe group membership, McCain probably clueless about all of it.

Posted by: ZenNonna | September 2, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am

People seem impressed that Ms. Palin is an ordinary person. Don’t we want our leaders to be extraordinary?

Posted by: jenny | September 2, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am

Deb
Her daughter became fair game as soon as the family brought her into this. I feel for her, but its obvious that her parents don’t know how to parent at all. Ms Palin needs to get back in the home and do her job.
Lifelong democrat. Obama for change in 08!

Posted by: Jim in Seattle | September 2, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am

I hope she can hang on for about another month. I love her.
P.S. I’m a strong Obama supporter.

Posted by: happydaze | September 2, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am

Guilt by association?
Ronald Reagan was in the socialist party when he was in his 20′s. That had nothing to do with his conservative credentials later on…
Also being in a small party doesn’t mean that she was actually a secessionist…

Posted by: Phil | September 2, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am

Face it, both Obama and Palin have serious “qualification/experience” issues. I do not like or respect Obama. I would have voted for Clinton.
But I will not vote for McCain is this Palin bimbo is on the ticket.

Posted by: Vetter | September 2, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am

Cool, ZenNonna, I was just thinking the same thing. ((**high five**))

Posted by: George | September 2, 2008, 11:34 am 11:34 am

So what really needs to change…
Bush has an approval rating of 31%, but the democratic led Congress is at 12%, and has not hit above 15% since the beginning of the year (Washington Post). Based on the approval rating Americans do not like what the democratic led congress has accomplished. So just how does the Obama/Biden ticket make a case for change? Both have voted along democratic party lines 96.0% of the time (Washington Post) compared to McCain at 88% (Washington Post). Ironically, McCain who is being billed as “More of the Same” actually deviates from the Republican party line 3 times more than Obama and Biden deviate from their party, the party that controls Congress and has an all time low approval rating. So which is really more of the same and which actually will drive change? Both McCain and Palin cross party lines, and their parties for that matter, at risk to their own political careers.
What’s all this about credentials…
All governors have the same knock, limited to no experience on the world stage and foreign affairs, yet this country has elected 16 governors as their president and 11 governors VP. 15 senators have been elected president.
As mayor, Palin was the Chief Executive Officer of her town, managing financials, personnel, services, and capital improvements, yes for a small town. She’s now a 1st term governor of Alaska. There is no arguing that Alaska is a small state, but she is a governor none the less. Palin does have some unique credentials which the talking heads continue to downplay or just plain ignore. Energy independence is one of this country’s biggest issues, impacting national security, the economy, and our lifestyle. Palin thoroughly understands the energy landscape, and how energy rich Alaska plays into national security by lessening the US’s dependency on foreign suppliers. She’s already proven she can tangle with big oil and come out with a win-win for business, the environment, jobs, and people. She’s also tangled with her own party big wigs and won those battles. Her approval rating as governor is 80% (New York Times). She is has no foreign affairs credentials, having only traveled to visit with Alaska’s National Guard stationed in Kuwait.
Obama does have an Ivy League education, is an attorney, a community organizer, Illinois state senator, and now is a 1st term US senator. Much of his time as a senator has been spent on his own presidential campaign. Obama does have the ability to draw enormous crowds here and abroad. He also lacks foreign affair credentials. He tried to quiet that criticism and took a trip abroad in July. His travel cost taxpayers about $28,000. Eight other freshman senators took office the same time as Obama, and the next closest spent $19,200 of taxpayer’s money on travel (NY York Times).
A heartbeat away or the heartbeat…
Which is more important, voting for an experienced presidential candidate or an experienced VP candidate? McCain and Obama’s experience, credentials, and ideology need to be compared. Looking at their voting records it appears they have common ground around immigration, stem cell research, gay marriage, the environment, and energy independence. Where they diverge is on taxes, national security, and social programs.
You have to ask why Obama tapped long time Delaware senator Joe Biden as his VP. Biden’s serving in his 6th consecutive term in the Senate and is on the judiciary and foreign relations committees. Biden brings strong credentials, just as McCain does. But Biden isn’t running as the presidential candidate against McCain, and Biden isn’t running against Palin. Anyway you slice it, the democratic presidential candidate has less experience governing than the republican presidential or VP candidate.
Does size really matter…
Alaska is a small state and ranks 47th in state population. Do you ever recall a presidential or vice presidential credentials being questioned based on the size of the state they govern? Former democratic presidential candidate Howard Dean was Vermont’s governor, 49th in state population. Former democratic presidential candidate Bill Richardson of New Mexico, ranks 36thin state population with less than 2 million. Former democratic presidential candidate George McGovern was governor of South Dakota, 46th in state population. 7 states have a population of less than 1 million, so does that mean that the governors of these small states can not be considered to lead this country based on the size of their state? 8 states have a population between 1 and 2 million. 6 states have a population between 2 and 3 million, including Arkansas. President Bill Clinton was Arkansas’ governor, 32nd in state population.
Do as I say not as I do…
All talking heads as well as democratic leaders and mouth pieces seem to be having a field day chuckling and snickering in the most condescending way about the gun toting, moose meat eating, beauty queen, card carrying union member, blue collar, sportscaster wanna be, hockey mom, small town mayor turned small state governor that is now the Republican VP candidate. It’s incredulous that the party that aligns itself with everyday working class people is bashing someone with such a diverse background. The LA Times, Washington Post, and NY Times all raced to publish pictures of Palin standing in front of a kill, pictures of her in snowmobile garb, and pictures of her at local council meetings. You have to wonder how this will play out with swing state voters. Are they as offended as the highbrow crowd by hunting, snowmobiling, and everyday life?
Moose meat…
Alaska brings us moose meat and salmon, Texas bbq, Wisconsin cheese, Maine lobster, Georgia peaches, California wine, North Carolina livermush, Oklahoma okra, Vermont maple sugar, and Washington apples. What’s the point? If this candidate came from the inner city, Hollywood, the beltway, or the sushi eating and wine sipping crowd, would we hear those same snickers? If you have relatives that live in Alaska, you have an understanding that eating moose meat is as common as eating crabs in Maryland. Seeing a moose wander onto the golf course is as common as Floridians seeing alligators in their lakes. Foreign to those that live in the beltway or major metropolitan areas, yes. Since Governor Palin’s husband and children are of Eskimo descent should we assume there is some undercurrent of discrimination and disrespect underway or should we just assume ignorance?
Where’s the outrage…
So Obama has a minister that hates the US and fosters racial divide, is friends with an avowed terrorist that participated in the bombing of the Pentagon, and has ties to a convicted felon. It scares people that Palin is a member of an anti-abortion group called Feminists for Life (FFL), maybe due in part as some are trying to portray her as a right to life extremist. FFL doesn’t endorse or support candidates of any party, and their mission is to address the unmet needs of women who are pregnant or parenting. FFL has a college outreach program that challenges college and university administrators to provide resources for pregnant and parenting students. Preconception issues including abstinence and contraception are outside their mission. Palin is pro-contraception (Anchorage Daily News), which seems to align with non-extremist views.
Palin also believes creationism should be taught in our schools. Some see this as backwards or scary. But if you consider we teach our kids about Kwanza and Islam in schools, why shouldn’t creationism as a part of Christianity be taught? These should all be part of our children’s humanities education. “Teach both. You know, don’t be afraid of information….Healthy debate is so important and it’s so valuable in our schools. I am a proponent of teaching both. And you know, I say this too as the daughter of a science teacher.” (Anchorage Daily News).
Baby, oh baby
Exactly how was the best way to handle this? Should McCain has said during his speech, and Sarah’s daughter is pregnant? Shoiuld Palin have come out during her acceptance speech and said, oh by the way my daughter is pregnant? It’s a family matter, and a matter that many families have had to deal with since the beginning of time. What is hard to understand is why people are jumping on this as a sign that she was not fully vetted. What exactly does this have to do with the vetting process? Why would people jump to the conclusion that this was a surprise to McCain?
Who do you like…
At the end of the day each individual needs to decide what presidential candidate they feel most comfortable with and cast their vote accordingly. In this day of information overload you need to be cautious about the information being presented and consider not just the source, but the motivation driving that source.

Posted by: steb | September 2, 2008, 11:34 am 11:34 am

Mike J: Good point.
In some ways, I’m having flashbacks of the Harriet Miers debacle. I’m sure there are GOP women of national stature, outstanding preparation, and impeccable qualifications – but where are they when the big jobs are announced?

Posted by: SFranz | September 2, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am

The Obamanistas are still try to discredit Ms. Palin, but it’s not a mystery, she’s a smart, down-to-earth person that takes a no-nonsense approach to politics. Be it Republican or Democrat, her crusade against corruption in government rings true and the good people of this country welcome that change and not the same old politics. The more they get to know her, the more they will respect her.

Posted by: Smitty | September 2, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am

It seems as though many (most?) of the conservative postings here are emotionally charged, full of hate, and pretty/very uninformed. Do you all just latch onto what Rush and others of his ilk tell you and then repeat it without putting a little more effort into fact checking? What’s really unfortunate is that these characteristics are what lead to GWB, the worst President this country has ever had… even worse than Reagan! What a sorry situation for this country…

Posted by: DiscriminatingVoter | September 2, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am

To Joaquin B and geevil: I hope you both get the help you so obviously + desperately need.

Posted by: John | September 2, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am

steve: “this whole bush=mccain is the most uninformed platform i have ever heard.”
He holds identical economic policies (down to extending the Bush tax cuts), identical foreign policy ideals (although he sees the USSR in Putin’s eyes), identical support for offshore oil giveaways, and was part of the Rubberstamp Republican Congress that made Bush’s first 6 years so much fun (he almost always voted party lines to support Bush).
Based on reality, how do you see McCain’s policies differing from Bush’s?

Posted by: jhw539 | September 2, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am

Jim, Nice sexist attitude. way to represent your party.

Posted by: steve | September 2, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am

“Experience,” “qualifications” …
here are the qualifications:
“No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.”
OBAMA is a LEADER. Look at his campaign. McCain is a PUPPET. Look at his campaign.

Posted by: Bud | September 2, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am

Boy, liberals want change, women’s rights, and new blood in Washington.
But when a person emerges with just these qualifications, they get raped by libs.
No women in politics? That eliminates Hitlery. Guess that’s why Obammma didn’t vet her.
Palin/McCain 08

Posted by: LarryMan | September 2, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am

Sure Regan was part of the socialist party when he was young, but Palin made a video for the Alaska Independence Party convention *this year*.

Posted by: johnTX | September 2, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am

A party whose purpose is to advocate a referendum on independence is by definition engaged in advocating a change in the status quo —> secession. The only reason they haven’t been prosecuted is the wordplay they used to go around the federal statutes.

Posted by: Vetter | September 2, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am

The daughter’s pregnancy and the husband’s DUI are just silly stuff.
The ethics investigation, the report Palin was for the bridge to nowhere before she was against it, the report she employed federal lobbyists to bring the pork to her town of 6,000, and the report she once belonged to a fringe party advocating Alaskan secession from the Union aren’t. These raise some questions.
We all know McCain didn’t vet her, despite his claims to the contrary. If he had, the campaign would have controlled the release of this information better.
That too raises questions about McCain’s judgment and willingness to make important decisions in a knee-jerk fasion.

Posted by: Paul | September 2, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am

Yeah, Francine2230, the birth certificate has been thoroughly vetted. You can read the whole article here (and see the hi-res photographs):
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
but here’s a synopsis:
FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as “supporting documents” to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.
Recently FactCheck representatives got a chance to spend some time with the birth certificate, and we can attest to the fact that it is real and three-dimensional and resides at the Obama headquarters in Chicago. We can assure readers that the certificate does bear a raised seal, and that it’s stamped on the back by Hawaii state registrar Alvin T. Onaka (who uses a signature stamp rather than signing individual birth certificates).
In fact, the conspiracy would need to be even deeper than our colleagues realized. In late July, a researcher looking to dig up dirt on Obama instead found a birth announcement that had been published in the Honolulu Advertiser on Sunday, Aug. 13, 1961.

Posted by: Cynic | September 2, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am

To LarryMan: This goes overlooked almost all of the time. Obama didn’t vet Hillary because she went through the vetting process during the lengthy primary season. It’s been said time and time again, but people tend to forget that that length of time in the public eye day in, day out serves as an excellent vetting solution.
P.S. Name calling is childish.

Posted by: John | September 2, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am

…WITH LIBERTY AND HYPOCRACY FOR ALL !!

Posted by: keith | September 2, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am

JohnTX: “…but Palin made a video for the Alaska Independence Party convention *this year*.”
Are you serious? If so, she’s done and will be eventually forced to drop from the ticket.

Posted by: Paul | September 2, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am

Smitty: ” Be it Republican or Democrat, her crusade against corruption in government rings true and the good people of this country welcome that change and not the same old politics. The more they get to know her, the more they will respect her.”
Help us get to know her. Beyond the “corruption crusader” soundbites she used to get elected, what has she *done* to fight corruption in Alaska? Was she one of the people instrumental in bringing to light Senator Steven’s gravy train from the oil companies? Throw out a fact or two and you’ll make a better case than just repeating the hollow talking points that both sides are spewing.

Posted by: jhw539 | September 2, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am

“And most significantly, what message will voters hear about McCain’s judgment that he chose someone to be his running mate who has almost no national security experience”…What do you mean “Almost none”…she has NONE…ZILCH!

Posted by: Scabby-Nubtail | September 2, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am

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- Drug abuse (and poor education) does harm to the user.
(Hence, George Bush & Marilyn Monroe)
- D.U.I. does harm to children and others who are innocent motorists or bystanders.
Because Palin has “No Experience”: Blame Obama?
Because hurricane Gustav disrupts the GOP Convention and reminds us of the Ruplican’s lack of empathy during Katrina : Blame Obama?
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Ordinary citizens who recognize a declining economy, rising joblessness, increased hatred, increasing health insurance costs, recession, increased lawlessness, declining home values: Should we too Blame Obama?
- Democrats didn’t Pick Palin
- Independents didn’t Pick Palin
- McCain Picked Palin because she wears a dress.
The only logical explanation is he used a Dartboard!
Just because I’m not dumbfounded by this Republican Hypocrisy…. don’t believe that I’m blind or dumbfounded enough to vote for McCain or Obama for the wrong reason.
I DID NOT VOTE FOR GEORGE BUSH his 1st or 2nd term!
- And -
I WILL NOT VOTE FOR JOHN McCAIN either!
I’M SUPPORTING OBAMA for the right reasons. Don’t let fear, hatred, anger, or prejudices mislead you. This is already a historic event!
IndependentVoter2007
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Posted by: IndependentVoter2007 | September 2, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am

The real reason for choosing Palin: Dobson and his bible-thumping wife-beating child-abusing closet-gay Jesus freaks.

Posted by: Vetter | September 2, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am

I can’t defend McCain. It makes me so angry. I can’t even try anymore to explain this. It just makes me sound like an idiot.

Posted by: JMom | September 2, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am

What a load of crap 99% of this is, Frankly nothing has come out on Palin that even compares to the skeletons in Obama’s closet and She is not the Head of the ticket. Frankly I would love to see an African American president, but after hearing the Reverend and some of his past associates, that did it for me 100%, keep talking about Mccains judgement picking Palin, what about the Democrats judgement putting this bigget as the lead of their ticket? I can only hope that if Obama is elected that he is bashed every second of the way the same way Bush has been, why not keep all the hatred and division the democrates started with Bush going to make their candidate the next person to leave sulfer at the UN.

Posted by: Tom | September 2, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am

CHANGE the VP Selection —–
I bet there surely will be a change in the VP selection.
The wrong person was vetted, chosen for the wrong reasons, chosen to keep more obvious picks from being slammed. The person does not share the ideas of the top of the ticket, and that person has many, many personal problems.
Sarah Palin?
No, Hairplug Joe.
Palin/McCain 08

Posted by: LarryMan | September 2, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am

BUD- You wrote:
“Boy, liberals want change, women’s rights, and new blood in Washington.
But when a person emerges with just these qualifications, they get raped by libs.”
Women’s rights??? That is why most women I know would not vote for Palin. She is a dinosaur (anti-right to choose). The only thing she has in common with Hillary is a vagina. If anything, she is bad for women’s rights. The government has no right to tell women what to do with their bodies. Women are smart enough to make their own decisions. With McCain and Palin in office, they’ll attempt to overthrow Roe vs Wade. Shame on them! A lot of women have fought long and hard for that freedom.

Posted by: Huh | September 2, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am

McCain has lost my vote. What was he thinking to put the party through this? Everything about this person has brought up all the questions back home. Like everyone was over his age issue and now everyone is talking about how close the VP being one heart beat away from the President and how old he is. And then, he had beaten Obama with the experience issue and now we are talking about the experience issue in the McCain camp. He needs to figure out a new direction quickly before the rest of this stuff comes to light.

Posted by: kent3536 | September 2, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am

Obama holds a degree from Harvard Law School. Insane in the membrane McCain graduated as one of the bottom five in his class of more than 900 at the Naval Academy. Sarah Palin only holds a bachelor’s degree in communications from some school in Idaho.
We’re facing tough times. Have the Repubicans completely lost their minds??????

Posted by: education counts | September 2, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am

I think Jayhawk is misrepresenting Obama’s voting record. The way state senate votes are conducted (which he is referring to) vs. the way US Senate votes are conducted are quite different.
McCain hasn’t cast a vote for any type
of any legislation since April. He didn’t even vote on the GI Bill. He was adamently against it, then once the vote passed he ended up taking credit for a bill that Sen. Jim Webb authored.
McCain touts himself to be such an advocate for the military, and he didn’t even vote for a bill that would benefit vets from the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.

Posted by: Jennifer | September 2, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am

I agree that no one has a spotless resume, including MANY republicans. The interesting thing to me is the reticence the media has in investigating family issues on the democratic side, and the gleeful way in which they exploit alleged failures and hypocrisies on the other.
One example, that should be pretty obvious, is the media’s timidity in investigating the John Edwards “love-child” story (which they have dropped off of completely). Seems to contrast with the current hysteria over Palin.
Should have been a big story, since had it not come out or rumors not been developing, Obama might have picked him as VP and killed his own campaign…he did come in 3d.
The list of problem people in both D and R parties is huge…sorry if I can’t remember everyone’s name right off the top. Is it really such a big deal?
Billy Carter
Roger Clinton
Obama’s father
Obama’s half brother
McCain’s half sister-in-law
Gore’s son
George Bush senior’s son :)
The Bush twins (pretty minor though, wasn’t it an ID thing?)
The point is, the frenzy over Palin seems a bit outlandish…

Posted by: Wade | September 2, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am

Hold on now, the names are UNDER our comments.
I was going to say that what we think of as “women’s rights” and Sarah Barracuda are mutually exclusive.
She seems to be about women’s right to be second-class citizens.

Posted by: Bud | September 2, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am

when will abortion finally be a moot issue? it will not change. people’s views on abortion are moot barring a supreme court reversal or constitutional amendment.

Posted by: steve | September 2, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am

I have to keep reminding myself that these message boards aren’t really representative of either party…
Especially today, reading these defenses of the Palin pick, that’s important. I remember when the Republicans were the party of stability; the party who nominated the next guy in line. They strove to, above all else, not be weird.
I have to think there are a lot of Republicans who still value that approach, and who are simply dismayed at McCain’s campaign right now. But I also have to think those Republicans aren’t here.

Posted by: Paul | September 2, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am

Cyros
So….what is your definition of “regular american”? I bet you believed GWB was a “regular american”. “Regular american” does equal competent. And to argue she is competent….she has nothing her resume to suggest that one way or the other. To suggest, as McCain, that she is best candidate is absurd and an insult to voters.

Posted by: indy_voter | September 2, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am

Steve
I’m not trying to represent my whole party but a lot of us Dems do feel this way but have been afraid to say it.
I’m just giving a little “straight talk” from an active lifelong Democrat. Others may not say it, but they feel it.
She should be at home trying to raise those kids.
The one thing I agree with McCain on is that talking straight is important.
Time for change.
Obama/Biden 08!

Posted by: Jim in Seattle | September 2, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am

Interesting postings. Its so interesting to note that how easily people gets into argument to avoid the real topic of discussion. Many folks here (mostly republicans) chose here to attack Obama or Democrates instead of just expressing their views on the topic at hand. When you just throw stones, both sides get hurt and result is total destruction. Look inside your own first. Life would be much more nicer.

Posted by: Nick | September 2, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am

What ever happened to the neocon/republican mantra on family values. Let’s review. Who throws first wife under the bus because she is sick and all broken up,then commits adultery,then trades her in for a newer model? Who says all the time, country first, then picks a person ;by consensus not qualified as next in charge if needed, per her own words”just what does the vp do”,let alone the pres. job? Who supports a pres,that lies our coutry into war,and squanders the treasury at 10 billion a month? Who is quoted as saying “I dont know much about economics” ? Who is the person rejected by his own party in 2000, for a more qualified guy,(BUSH) for the job he now wants? Who is the guy,time and time again, displays poor judgement in his decision making process? Well, I could go on and on,but what’s the point. That the polls are close is not a reflection on JOHN McCAIN, but rather an indictment on the AMERICAM PEOPLE for voting for these type of people. If you really want more of the same, then vote McCAIN! And don’t you dare complain when you get more of the same.I say ENOUGH ALREADY!!!

Posted by: zeke | September 2, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am

I am a Christian by faith and a staunch republican.
I’d like to refer to a quote from my favorite book which is the Holy Bible:
John 8:41: So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself and said unto them, “He that is without sin among you let him first cast a stone at her.” King James Version
Here is my question to all of you who wish to “cast stones” at Gov. Palin….
Have you ever done anything wrong at all in your life?
Have you ever lied?
Have you ever broken a promise???
If you can answer yes to any of these questions why in the word are you pointing fingers at Gov. Palin????
All of you have a nice day and try to be kind to each other on here….
Because He lives,
Alicia

Posted by: Alicia | September 2, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am

Read today’s paper:
Palin was mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, she employed a lobbying firm to get almost $27 million in federal earmarks for that community of 6,700.
Just a typical opportunist. Not much different from the female VP who lied and slept their way to the top at your company.

Posted by: Vetter | September 2, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am

So, just who did the best job of picking a VP to run with.
Joe Biden was able to gain the confidence and votes from a full 1% of DEMOCRATS in Iowa and quickly gave up his campaign. For the math challenged that means he was REJECTED by 99% of the Democrats in Iowa. Then, Obama totally ignored the other Democrat who received over 80 million votes. Was that a preview of the “good judgement” we can expect from him as President?
Sara Palin actually won the election of Governor of Alaska from ALL the Voters democrats and republicans and continues to have a 65% – 80% approval rating. This compares to the 13% approval rating of congress, home of Obama and Biden. Much lower than Bush, but of course you don’t see much reporting on that do you.
It’s also very interesting just how silent the womens’s lib movement is now when it’s a republican is being attached by the left wing bloggers and the biased media. Who, by the way, are totally ignoring the fact that Obama has said (much to his credit)that family, especially children should be off limits. That begs the question of Obama’s leadership when even those who support him refuse to follow his lead.

Posted by: Jim | September 2, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am

A slo-mo train wreck, dammit.

Posted by: Gorgon '08 | September 2, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am

education counts – remember, too, our recent history for as clear an indication of how bizarre these attempts to compare Palin and Obama are.
In December 2006, every journalist and news junkie was wondering who was going to run, from both parties. Guilliani, Clinton, Thompson, McCain, Richardson… those questions were circulating. And in that mix was Obama. Though he was overshadowed by attention on Clinton, the question was out there.
During that time, for some odd reason, I don’t recall anyone asking about whether Palin would run.

Posted by: Paul | September 2, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am

jim,
so you are saying women have no business being in politics or in any profession whatsoever if they have kids? Are you saying that if a woman has children she cannot have any job outside of the home? interesting viewpoint from a life long democrat.

Posted by: steve | September 2, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am

Bud, I’m with you. Repubs seem to think all Obama voters are Obamaniacs. I’m not very happy with the guy myself, but if you care about the future of this country there is no other choice. McCain is a fruitcake who selected a “soulmate” indeed for Veep. Palin is one of those people who thinks she can just lie her way through life and nobody will notice.

Posted by: Nomo Stew | September 2, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am

What really worries me about Palin is her environmental policies (especially in regards to drilling in the ANWR). Given the state of our environment these days I think it is evermore important for us, as consumers to support ‘green businesses’ that benefit the environment. For example, http://www.simplestop.net stops your postal junk mail and benefits the environment.

Posted by: Clark | September 2, 2008, 11:52 am 11:52 am

I am not impressed with my vote choices this year. We get Obama who has no experience in foreign affairs. Or we get McCain. It comes down to who do I think will it take longer to ruin the country? That for me is a hard decision. For all of you who have a problem with killing something that en-dangers the human life (wolves), and keep questioning why Palin approves the killing of wolves, maybe if you lived where wolves are a threat to your life style you city people would understand. Did you know in New Mexico and Arizona over the last several years they have reintroduced the mexican grey wolf to the wild. Something you will not hear of are the dangers that come along with this re-introduction. In New Mexico they are having to build saftey shelters for kids at school bus stops to ensure their saftey. When you start chosing an animal’s life over a child’s you have got major issues. Palin keep up the good work in Alaska. Palin if you need one more gun in the helicopter let me know. Hell I will even ride a long for free!

Posted by: South West | September 2, 2008, 11:52 am 11:52 am

This Letter From Michael Moore:
Well, I guess God got my email and answered my prayer. Man, the power of the Internet! He even emailed me back! I’ll share that with you in the next few days. Proof there is a God in heaven? Never explain comedy or satire or the ironic comment. Those who get it, get it. Those who don’t, never will…
John McCain said “it’s time to take our Republican hats off and put our American hats on.” Really? It would have been nice if Sen. McCain had put on his American hat in the three years since Katrina. Just so no one is fooled by all his fake concern for the people on the Gulf Coast, let’s look at his record post-Katrina, compliments of Chris Hayes of The Nation:
If (McCain) cared about New Orleans and the Gulf Coast he could have done something these past three years. He could have made Gulf Reconstruction his issue, he could have excoriated his party for pushing federal dollars into the hands of cronies, for providing inadequate resources, for allowing the further destruction of the wetlands that serve as the only natural barrier to storm surges. He could have taken on the insurance companies that have been serially screwing the residents of the gulf. But he was too busy pushing for more troops, and more war and running for president.
Instead this is his record [via Mother Jones]:
Though McCain issued a statement the next week (after Katrina) calling on Congress to make sacrifices in order to fund recovery efforts, he was quoted in The New Leader on September 1 [2005] cautioning against over-spending in support of Katrina’s victims. “We also have to be concerned about future generations of Americans,” he said. “We’re going to end up with the highest deficit, probably, in the history of this country.”
That attitude was borne out in McCain’s actions and votes. Forty Senators and 100 members of Congress visited New Orleans before he did; he finally got there in March 2006. He voted against establishing a Congressional commission to examine the Federal, State, and local responses to Katrina in med-September 2005. He repeated that vote in 2006. He voted against allowing up to 52 weeks of unemployment benefits to people affected by the hurricane, and in 2006 voted against appropriating $109 billion in supplemental emergency funding, including $28 billion for hurricane relief.
So honestly, it’s an insult to watch him make a show of concern now. …
The possibility of a storm (a storm that never hit New Orleans, and was no longer a hurricane by last night) was enough for McCain to essentially cancel most of the first day of the convention. Cut and run? The AP reported yesterday that conventions have always been held when the nation was facing perilous moments. Right smack in the middle of World War II, the Republicans and the Democrats both held full conventions. Thousands of Americans were being killed every week. The Republicans held their convention in Chicago less than two weeks after D-Day. No one faulted them for that. In fact, it made Americans feel good that, no matter what happens, NOTHING stops Democracy. No retreat, no surrender…
So McCain and company used the hurricane for political advantage, to have an excuse to not have Bush and Cheney live and in person in St. Paul (Bush will appear Tuesday night via satellite). And he used the hurricane as a chance to release a potentially controversial story in the hopes that the hurricane would dominate the news and not many would notice. One hour after Gustav hit land, the McCain campaign announced that Vice Presidential candidate Sarah Palin’s teenage daughter is pregnant. I don’t want to say much more beyond this, as I agree with Barack Obama that “people’s families are off limits, and people’s children are especially off limits.”
I do feel very sorry that this minor, this child, now has to have her privacy sacrificed because her mother accepted an offer to run for VP. Obama’s right — the children are off limits. I remember when John McCain cruelly trashed Chelsea Clinton when she was a child in the White House. He told reporters that she was “ugly” “because Janet Reno is her father.” Of course, McCain would like us now to accord Palin’s daughter the respect he wouldn’t give Chelsea.
This does not mean that a discussion about the stupidity of “abstinence-only” sex ed classes is off the table; nor should we not talk about the right of a teenager to terminate a pregnancy (a right that has been essentially eliminated as the Supreme Court believes forcing a child to have a child against its will is not a form a child abuse), or Gov. Palin’s desire to make abortion illegal for anyone who is raped, a victim of incest or who may die if they bring the fetus to term. She’s “proud” of her daughter’s “decision to have her baby.” Uh-huh. Ok…
Word comes tonight that McCain’s people lied about Palin being vetted — the FBI has admitted they did NOT vet her. So McCain has dispatched ten operatives and investigators to Alaska to find out if there’s anything else that’s about to hit the fan regarding his veep pick, a woman he had run into only once in his life and then called her on her cell phone two weeks ago at the Alaska State Fair. That was it before she made the short list and was selected. McCain’s radar — honed perhaps during his own self-admitted indiscretionary phase of his life — is telling him there’s more to the Palin story. You mean things like her support of the Alaska Secessionist Party or being one of the directors of recently-arrested Sen. Ted Stevens’ political action groups? Heck, I dunno. We shall see…
But before everyone gets all smug and self-righteous about the Palin selection, remember where you live. You live in a nation of gun owners and hunters. You live in a country where one out of three girls get pregnant before they are 20. You live in a nation of C students. Knocking Bush for being a C student only endeared him to the nation of C students. Knock Palin for having kids, for having a kid who’s having a baby, for anything that is part of her normalness — a normalness that looks very familiar to so many millions of Americans — well, you do this at your own peril. Assuming she’s still on the ticket two weeks from now, she will be a much tougher opponent than anyone expects. You live in a country that voted for Dan Quayle.
I’ll close with this report on ABC tonight by investigative reporter Brian Ross. It shows Republicans in St. Paul taking off their Republican hats and putting on their American hats. In the meantime they should keep those hats ready as a new hurricane was announced today. No, not Hannah. She’s already on her way to Florida for Friday. The new one is called Ike, scheduled to hit the Gulf early next week. Ike. He’s the one who warned us about the “military-industrial complex.”
More to come…
Michael Moore
MMFlint@aol.com
MichaelMoore.com

Posted by: Sophia | September 2, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am

Tom: “why not keep all the hatred and division the democrates started with Bush”
Are you serious? Were you alive in the 90′s? Don’t you recall the whole impeachment over a blow job? Or how Republicans roundly denounced President Clinton’s attempts to kill Osama Bin Laden as “Monica Missiles” on the floor of the Senate (thanks for putting national security ahead of partisan point scoring Republicans)?

Posted by: jhw539 | September 2, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am

Thanks, Alicia. It’s nice to hear from someone who’s actually read that book.
I’d like to see that level of forgiveness for Barack Obama. I sure haven’t.

Posted by: Bud | September 2, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am

To rightwingers who ask for compassion and understanding and all that good stuff:
Where was your love and compassion for the poor and homeless, for uninsured sick children, for wounded veterans, or for Cindy Sheehan?

Posted by: Vetter | September 2, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am

Jim: “It’s also very interesting just how silent the womens’s lib movement is now when it’s a republican is being attached by the left wing bloggers and the biased media.”
I’m not an expert on women’s lib, but I’m guessing it means support for women being treated the same as men.
If Palin was a man with the exact same background (well, minus the motherhood and beauty pageants, of course), we’d see the same questions.
Actually we wouldn’t, because McCain never would have considered a Mr. Palin. And we all know that’s true.
This wasn’t country first; it was politics first.

Posted by: Paul | September 2, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am

All you negative people will be sorry by voting for “Obama”..there will be change alright!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: 2foolish4u | September 2, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am

I am not concerned that someone’s daughter became pregnant out of wedlock (it could happen to anyone). I am concerned that the news is coming out now, as it does make one ask the question: was this news hidden and if so, why? Any VP had to be considered as a potential president. As a mother, I cannot help but wonder how in the world someone can be a mother to so many children, among them an infant with special needs and a teen obviously in need of something…..(perhaps more attention from her parents… who knows but teens don’t get pregnant due to lack of education — they get pregnant out of rebellion, or out of neediness, perhaps to get someone’s attention, etc. My personal conviction on this topic). It matters because we have to consider her a potential president. It also matters because the Republicans are usually the first to go around pointing the finger at everyone’s “moral” failings… those who live in glass houses should not throw stones. As to Barack Obama’s drug use as a teen — the big difference is it is in the past (this isn’t and she is going to require alot from her mother — she needs her at this time) and Obama revealed his past himself before he was nominated as a Presidential candidate. I am impressed that Sen. Obama is not himself making this a targeted issue. He shows more character in these things…..

Posted by: Debbie G | September 2, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am

A son who is rebellious, an unmarried 17-yr old pregnant and a Down Syndrome 4-month old. If Palin can’t manage her personal life how can she manage the country? Is this really the expectations we have for our leaders?

Posted by: Marcy | September 2, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am

Lack of judgement and disrespect for women were demonstrated by McCain by the Palin choice – did he really think that choosing a token woman would woo the Hillary supporters – how cynical.

Posted by: nancy | September 2, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am

I can’t beleive any of these things are an issue? Her husband had a DUI in the 80′s? Her daughter is pregnant? What do any of these things have to do with her qauilifications? God, the Obama lemmings kill me. I am not even a McCain fan, but Obama? I think not. And you know what strikes me funny? The DNC made a hero out of Ted Kennedy. Does anyone remember Mary Jo Kopechny? You know, the female that Ted Kennedy MURDERED by driving his drunk ass off a bridge and then leaving her to die? He was given a two month SUSPENDED sentance for leaving the scene of an accident. What a joke.
PEACE
Bob
http://www.wakeupamericans.webs.com

Posted by: Bob in Ohio | September 2, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am

Ready to be President? This from James Dobson and Focus onthe Family:
“Many will not agree with my opinion on that subject, but it is borne of experience with thousands of families. All things being equal, I believe Mom is still needed at home as the kids grow. Why? Because the heavy demands of child rearing do not slacken with the passage of time. In reality, the teen years generate as much pressure on the parents as any other era. An adolescent turns a house upside down — literally and figuratively. Not only is the typical rebellion of those years a stressful experience, but the chauffeuring, supervising, cooking, and cleaning required to support a teenager can be exhausting.
Someone within the family must reserve the time and energy to cope with those new challenges. Mom is the candidate of choice.”
FLIP_FLOP???

Posted by: 11thCavVet | September 2, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am

I am a 29 year old married female successful small business owner, who up until this year, was a registered Republican. Disgusted with the Bush administration, I recently changed my party affiliation and became a Hillary supporter.
When Barack took the nomination, I looked to McCain for one last chance to show me he could choose some one that would give me confidence in supporting the republican ticket. McCain failed me… and I think the feeling of this whole situation echoes the McGovern/Eagleton incident.
I believe that Barack will be elected, I only hope congress will help moderate his extreme tax policies.

Posted by: M | September 2, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am

When will McCain and Palin give interviews? What are they afraid of?

Posted by: Selinab | September 2, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am

How disguating this is to watch the attack dogs go after this woman. Her daughter is engaged and pregnant? Wow I guess Sarah Palin is a horrible mother. Her husband got a DUI over 22 years ago? wow Sarah Palin is a horrible person. And now George is putting words in Republicans mouths? Sorry Georgie, but we are very happy and excited that the Dems are running scared. Sarah Palin is a great leader and will continue to be as vice president of the UNited States.

Posted by: DOn | September 2, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am

Marcy: “If Palin can’t manage her personal life…”
As an Obama supporter, I have to say that’s a cheap shot.
The question I have is why McCain made a knee-jerk pick without thinking it through, vetting the potential running mate, etc. As for Palin’s family, she’s a parent dealing with some of the difficulties a lot of parents deal with.

Posted by: Paul | September 2, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am

He who is without sin let him cast the first stone.

Posted by: Man of Conscience | September 2, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am

Good Gawd!!! Palin is not an environmentalist? Give me a Break!!!
She knows more about the environment than any South Side Chicago Slumlord. She actualy walks in the environment.
ANWR? How many of you green weenies have ever been to ANWR? Seen it?
Just keep drinking Obammy flavored kool-aid and pizz it into your gas tanks.
Until we drill in ANWR and offshore, the democrats will continue to keep the economy down.
Happy?
Palin/McCain 08

Posted by: LarryMan | September 2, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am

wow its funny you republicans like to make associations to obama from people he knows that did things when he was 8 years old, but get fuming mad when someone brings up that palins husband had a dui 22 years ago
lol
you guys are all double standards… hey what happened to all the experience arguments?
awwwww mccain smashed his only talking point for the last 4 months with a pic for VP that was obviously not vetted….
mccain also says it was because he wanted lieberman, but his advisors talked him out of it…
looks like his judgment is in serious jeapordy… he doesnt take the presidency serious….

Posted by: bhrandon | September 2, 2008, 11:59 am 11:59 am

DOn: “…but we are very happy and excited that the Dems are running scared.”
Um, maybe its me, but it doesn’t seem to be the Dems who are running scared here.

Posted by: Paul | September 2, 2008, 11:59 am 11:59 am

steb
Thank you for that excellent post. It’s nice to hear a rational and informed voice. Many of the posts here a emotionally charged and irrational. The liberal voices are ranting out of fear of Palin, but many conservatives allow themselves to be drawn into to bickering.

Posted by: Dee | September 2, 2008, 11:59 am 11:59 am

jhw59-
How you can generalize two totally different people as having the “same economic” policies is beyond me. Bush cut taxes to put more money in the pockets of american citizens and mccain supports the same. But, as i’m sure you know, the controller of the purse in the US is the congress not the president. further, besides tax rates, the other most powerful tool to control the economy is the interest rate, which is controlled by the fed. so many ignorant people listen to politicians say my goal is to strengthen the economy. the truth is, the president has little power to do this, especially without congressional approval. also, the candidates view on abortion is irrelevant. save a reversal by the supreme court or a constitutional amendment, abortion is moot.

Posted by: steve | September 2, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm

I think we should elect Obama, then he can take our salries and divide them among us so we all can live in peace, harmony and equality, then he can force his beliefs on us all in whatever fashion he chooses. He can finish disposing religion in the US. Then spend 1/2 of whats left over giving money overseas trying to buy approval, then he can spend whats left from that providing materials required for his new protection / enforcement team the new Waffen SS. Once he is elected to a second term after meeting with all the radical nations and deciding we should not fight them with religion removed from the US he can then proclaim Islam as the official US religion… SWEET!! he’s got my vote!

Posted by: Tom | September 2, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm

LarryMan: “She actualy walks in the environment.”
Don’t we all?

Posted by: Paul | September 2, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm

I’m no democrat, neither Republican, but I have to say this 72 y.o. Vet/Hockey Mom Ticket is sooooooooooo 80′s, and so not 2008 to me ;)

Posted by: da | September 2, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm

Jim: “Then, Obama totally ignored the other Democrat who received over 80 million votes.”
Are you getting fed these absurd “facts” from somewhere or do you just make them up out of whole cloth? There were a total of 80 million voters in the primaries.

Posted by: jhw539 | September 2, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm

You are asking more of her than the Dems asked of Obama….She is more qualified to be VP them Mr. Obama is to be President. I rather have her than Obama any day…Far more mystery about him….But the press will never ask!!!!

Posted by: PCTHOR | September 2, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm

“Jim in Seattle” said “The presidency or vice presidency is not a job for women..period.
Obama/Biden 08!”
Jim, you’re embarrassing us. The notion that one’s reproductive plumbing dis/qualifies one for office is absurd. There’s nothing about one’s gender that affects one’s qualification to hold office; you sound like a throwback to the eighteenth century, which is not the kind of message Obama’s campaign is presenting. Please don’t “help” Obama any more. Or are you a plant?

Posted by: RobMAMN | September 2, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm

The Alaska Independent Party, which Palin was a member of for two years, has as their platform the secession of Alaska from the United States.
Look it up. Check out their leaders.
Beats the snot out of not wanting to wear a flag lapel pin.

Posted by: spencerfalco | September 2, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm

Very typical lib statements. Socialists who think they everything about everybody. Keep bouncing responsibility off your candidate and you’ve created the perfect echo chamber.

Posted by: Laughs at Dems | September 2, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm

Bill,
Where do you come off saying Palin has more experience than Obama? That’s absurd. Palin has not involved in one issue of national significance..Zero. The fact that she has been mayor of her hometown city and state of Alask (pop; 700,000) is un-impressive. I’ve heard conservatives say “well, she has actually run something”. To equate her experience with the running the country is liking saying a manager of a local thrift shop for the past 2 years is qualified to be CEO of Walmart. The problem you folks ignore is that Obama has been in the national spotlight for 18 months. Like or dislike him everyone knows him…90% of the country does not know Palin very well and probably will not know enough about her come election day…But somehow that is okay to conservatives..Incredibly, foolish on McCain’s part and hypocritical on conservatives part..

Posted by: indy_voter | September 2, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm

To Steb, you have written such a well-thought out and insightful response. Your comments should be read by all and taken to heart.

Posted by: agnesob | September 2, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm

Yes, It is likely that Palin was chosen to bring over the Hillary supporters. This much is fairly apparent.
This is an insult it infers that Hillary supporters are a simple bunch that can be lured in such a manner. The McCain campaign made a mistake and it was arrogant and audacious. Think backlash. Think landslide.
The only thing Plain and Hillary have in common is gender. Obviously. We care more about our country than to vote for who can wear the pantsuit or pantyhose. The issues have never been more pressing.
A picture is worth more than a thousand words:
1. The photo of the Palin family in the Boston Globe gave me pause. Daughters holding baby bottle and baby (strategically placed in front of a swollen belly, poor dear) , they all sit with a stunned look on their faces, nary a smile. Family life should indeed be private. If they are being trotted out by the GOP will someone please tell them “when your smiling and the whole world will smile with you!’ Lalala. OR maybe they just can’t pull it off for mom this time, given the world is crashing in on them…. I feel sorry for them: Their parents maybe should have had the safe sex talk awhile back with them and then follow up. But wait: by having the sex talk, or the condom talk it may incite them to have premarital sex! Parenting is the toughest and most important job of all and I say this as a working mother of 3 school-age kids. I have a career, went to graduate school, etc. but it would be all for nothing if my kids are running off course.
2. The shots of McCain and Palin. Please. It looks like an invitation to the high school Daddy Daughter Dance.

Posted by: Susan | September 2, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm

Hah hah, gotta love those posts that say “Palin is inexperienced, but so is Obama”. Difference is, Obama has managed to win the nomination and leads comfortably in the polls — he’s been interviewed by “the people” and they have given him the thumbs up. Palin has not passed been vetted by the voters. She might yet be, but it’s looking doubtful. Bad pick Mac.

Posted by: JTS | September 2, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm

Considering the private “personal” lives of JFK and Bill Clinton, was this the expectation we had of our leaders?

Posted by: David Blair | September 2, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm

From the first and most important appointment, that of VP, we see clearly now: McCain doesn’t give a rats a** about the economy or national security. Palin is dangerously uneducated. Were he putting country first, he’d have picked any number of other very capable men & women among them (e.g. Condi). He cares only using a token female right winger and with a pretty face with the hope of winning the election — clearly putting country LAST, McSame’s own ego (and his new pretty face) first.

Posted by: patmac | September 2, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm

i wish all the left wing nuts out there would shutup!!!!
if this had happened to a democrate, everything would be just fine.
oh, they would have wanted the girl to have an abortion i am sure.
enought already, leave the family out of it for once.

Posted by: john | September 2, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm

The difference between the Liberal end and the Conservative end.
The Liberal end find excuses for their failures usually linked race, gender, or sexual preference linked to them selves and their opposition.
The Conservative end preaches conservative values, and while they may not achieve the goal, they still succeed. They don’t find excuses as ften.

Posted by: Independant | September 2, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm

Can’t wait for Babs Streisand to get in on this one. Oh wait wasn’t she going to leave the country when Bush was elected?

Posted by: Liz | September 2, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm

Bob in Ohio: “I can’t beleive any of these things are an issue?”
As for the tabloid crap, I’m with you. But are you saying her potential support for Alaskan secession isn’t an issue? Or an ongoing investigation into potential abuse of authority? Or a record on issues that seems at odds with what she now claims to be?

Posted by: Paul | September 2, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm

Answers:
1) What else is there about Palin? Let’s see what the MSM finds out. They’ve been excellent digging up all kinds of things on Obama, correct? I mean we know all we need to know about Obama’s connections to Ayers, Wright, Rezko, Frank Marshall Davis, ACORN and on and on.
2) Feel free to question the vetting process. I don’t think McCain gives a hoot.
3) One could argue that Palin has as much foreign policy experience as Bill Clinton did when he ran for president, governed a much larger state, managed a bigger budget and oversaw 20% of the nations energy supply. Let’s not forget she’s on the bottom of the ticket, not the top. How much foreign policy experience does Obama have? Two years in the Debate Club (aka Senate) doesn’t add up to much. By picking Biden he apparently felt he needed someone whispering in his ear on such matters.
Herein lies the political brilliance of this pick. With Palin, McCain simultaneously defanged Biden and highlighted the parallels between his VP choice and the TOP of the Democratic ticket. On a 4th-and-1 from the 50, McCain threw a sideline bomb for the TD. Obama had the same choice and ran the fullback up the middle. Safe and boring and the clock is winding down.

Posted by: Woody | September 2, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm

Not drilling in ANWR caused the economy to tank?
Funny, I thought it was running up the national debt while (literally) sending plane-loads of cash to Iraq and bailing out out-of-control mortgage lenders.
Running up the debt always kills the dollar. Basic economics. If we want oil companies to drop their prices, then they need a good ol’ market solution – real competition. Which is the best argument out there for new – non oil – energy.
If you want a strong economy – quit running up the debt.

Posted by: Sfranz | September 2, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm

Choices:
1. Obama is a self-aggradizing flip flopping dirtbag and a Chicago politician. Biden is a corrupt MBNA sellout windbag.
2. McCain is senile and 72 with cancer issues. Palin is a lying power-hungry bimbo who is clueless and doesn’t know what a VP does.

Posted by: Vetter | September 2, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm

How wonderful to see the “enlightened” Libs making jokes about a working woman with children. And to top it off, since when are feminists concerned with marriage?
This reminds me of the “One Free Pass” rule that NOW invented to excuse their support of Bill Clinton after the scandal involving the young sycophantic intern, Monica Lewinsky.
Situational ethics at its worst.

Posted by: dolly lama | September 2, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm

Steve,
Sure women can have jobs e be in public service, even with kids… But the Presidency? With young children? Look around here and elsewhere and read between the lines…
Dems may not say it outright like me, but I think it is quite obviously apparent that the feeling is out there.
Obama/Biden 08!

Posted by: Jim in Seattle | September 2, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm

“Obama totally ignored the other Democrat who received over 80 million votes.”
If by “80″ you mean “18″, and by “ignored” you mean “praise in every speech” …

Posted by: Bud | September 2, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm

@tom a couple posts up.
you’re a moron. time to come out from under your rock.

Posted by: jeff | September 2, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm

OMG, I can’t believe it. All the facts about Palin are so revealing. She wasn’t vetted by McCain?
Did the Dems vet BO? NO. If they had, they would have realized that he’s an anti-American elitist and his wife is a sniviling Anti-American B*tch. If they had looked at BO at all, they would know that he has zero experience.
Now, the press is comparing BO’s experience with Palin’s…what a hoot! Now BO is running against Palin and she is still more qualified than him.
So, let’s see, Palin’s daughter is pregnant, here husband had a DUI 20 years ago, she went after money for her town, and the political hacks in Alaska have tried to pull her into a scandal…sounds like just the type of person that has all the credentials to be a typical American…not perfect, but definitely not an extremist like BO and his wife!
Mr. President and Madam Vive President…has a great ring to it.

Posted by: Chasmodee | September 2, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm

Its so cute. Picture this: Mom, VP of the USA. along with daughter, both nursing their babies and announcing they are both pregnant again!

Posted by: petena | September 2, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm

Palin is a good choice. She has more international experience than Obama. she her husband and daughter are dealing with the pregnancy in a manner consistent with their faith. while she is pregnant out of wedlock as some say she will be marrying the father of the child and probably met him at church. while girls get pregnant without being married the ratio of inside the church and outside the church to the dismay of many church leaders is not much different.

Posted by: raymond | September 2, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm

her crusade against corruption in government rings true and the good people of this country welcome that change and not the same old politics. The more they get to know her, the more they will respect her.”
I just read how the money she earmarked as town mayor for her town is sorta missing. that when she left the town was left in debt, something like 25 million in debt???? It is all over the other sites.

Posted by: beck | September 2, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm

jim in seattle,
So then a man with children cannot be the president either? doesnt obama have young girls? I dont understand your point. Her husband is capable of raising the children if she is the president the same as michelle is if barack is president. your sexist and antiquated views are scary.

Posted by: steve | September 2, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm

Jim in Seattle – I’m guessing if she was the vice president, she’d have a full-time nanny taking care of the kids.
Is that the ideal family situation? Of course not. But then a lot of kids don’t grow up with ideal family situations.
I have to agree with the earlier poster. Your argument is a little demeaning.

Posted by: Paul | September 2, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm

Religiously and otherwise, I believe Sarah Palin should withdraw herself from the VP position, a spot that could land her in the president’s office at a heartbeat. Here are my reasons, among other things
1. No one tries to solve a problem (teenage pregnancy) by showing that they have the problem. Though it puts her in a position to empathize with other mothers, the best leader is one who prevents the problem in the first place; thus showing that she can help other mothers by, at least, setting an example. Jesus did not show how to over sin by sinning and then showing the steps to repentance. He set the perfect example for us to follow.
2. The bible says that if a person cannot govern his/her own household, they cannot govern a public office. (1 Timothy 3: 4&5
3. Her daughter is a bad example for my daughter, your daughter and Bristol’s other sisters. Seventeen (17) year-olds should be in school not anywhere else. According to the bible, one should first clear his/her eyes first before he/she tries to help someone clear theirs. (Matt 7: 5)
4. It gives a negative impression about McCain’s judgment.

Posted by: Fabian | September 2, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm

Frontier female governor, fighter of big oil, a leader who holds her party leaders accountable, a block to wasteful spending, blue collar background, union ties, and she can fish, hunt, and survive in the wilderness. Wow. No lilly handed politician here. Congrats on soon being a grandma.
And a special hi to Palin’s plagaerist, and druggie/real estate shark competitors. This self sufficient frontier lady governor kinda scares you, eh?

Posted by: Wendy1 | September 2, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm

McCain always thinks he’s so smart. But remember when he thought Lassie was one of the 3 Stooges?
No Senator McCain, Lassie was neither Larry, Moe nor Curly. Lassie was a TV dog, and a darn good one. Just look at all the times he saved little Timmy.

Posted by: Not the Stooges | September 2, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm

raymond: “She has more international experience than Obama.”
Maybe if you close your eyes and click your heels together, that will be true.

Posted by: Paul | September 2, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm

I am so embarassed by the comments on this page! First of all, Palin is an AMERICAN! Since when do we judge what small town or University someone graduates from as the most important factor in a president? If you look through history, did all of our Presidents (great ones?) graduate from Harvard? Are you saying that if you graduate from a state school you aren’t smart enough to run for public office? Are you saying that if you work your way up from PTA to Vice-President, you aren’t worthy? Are you saying that raising a family as a working mom means that you aren’t in touch with American moms? Are you saying that because someone’s daughter becomes pregnant they are bad parents?
I guess I always thought that this country was founded on the grounds that all people were created equal! I thought that the dream that thousands of people a year risk their lives for to come to the US, was that you can come from NOTHING and be very successful. I thought the class system was dead. I was always told that anyone could accomplish the american dream, regardless of where they came from. I would also say that the obstacles that Gov. Palin has had to overcome have given her the edge to UNDERSTAND just what us “average” americans deal with daily.
What I have learned this week is that the American people in general can’t have a political debate with issues without making deragative personal attacks. I have also learned that there really is discrimination against working women.
What needs to happen for this country to treat people equally? I am sad about the opinions of people in this country. I offer one piece of advice, the next time you choose to point out people’s flaws, think of your own. You are not perfect, neither are they. Keep your debate to the issues, not personal attacks! It is natural to disagree with people, the personal attacks show that you have a lack of knowledge on the topics and have to resort to put-downs.
God bless Gov. Palin in this tough time for her family. For the first time in a long time, I feel like there is a candidate that understands a working mom, raising a family, middle income america, and the need to keep our families safe. From an undecided voter to a McCain-Palin voter.

Posted by: aMom | September 2, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm

Face it folks. Palin’s life is exactly what happens in this country evry single day. Like it or not. Why are you all trying to make excuses ?
I’m not a Republican & after Hillary lost, no longer a DEM, but I cannot live w/ an OBAMA bin BIDEN Ticket.
The DEM PARTY & OBAMA really scrwed themselves this time by treating Hillary like they did. I say GO SARAH !

Posted by: stevince | September 2, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm

OK, the spin is making me dizzy.
I have an important concern. Palin was a beauty queen …
was there a swimsuit competition, and are there photographs?

Posted by: Bud | September 2, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm

Alright, for the sake of argument, consider how different this whole “scandal” would play if ( a black man, ie. Obama)’s facetious 17 year old daughter was pregnant out of wed lock. I don’t care one way or the other about the value judgement of “unwed mothers”, but conservatives have tried to own this particular moral high ground argument long enough. When this happens to black families it’s a question of parenting skills. When it happens to rich white people, they say, “look, they’re regular people, leave them alone.” This woman just had a retarded baby, they demand a lot more attention than an average child. You’re 17 year old daughter is gonna pop soon. Stay home and take care of your own life. You have become the bad parents that you are always complaining about!

Posted by: F.D. | September 2, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm

It’s now official: The Republican party as well as McCain’s campaign are both simultaneously imploding. In one McMasterful stroke John McMost-experienced shows us what spending over a third of one’s life in the Washington cesspool does for one’s judgment.

Posted by: elviseinstein | September 2, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm

Looks like the young man her daughter is marrying will have a long and happy marriage. His facebook page says he just wants to f***G chillin’ and stuff and he DOES NOT WANT kids. Check it out.

Posted by: Vetter | September 2, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm

steve: “How you can generalize two totally different people as having the “same economic” policies is beyond me.”
I don’t understand your confusion. The president writes the budget that is submitted to Congress for approval each year. John McCain’s stated budget priorities and specifics (spending priorities, national resource exploitation, extending the Bush tax cuts, etc.) are identical to President Bush’s (hence McCain’s strong and consistent voting in support of President Bush’s economic policy). These budget policies are commonly referred to in the English language as an “economic policy.”
Specifically, where do McCain and Bush differ on economic policy? They are even in lockstep on the disposition of America’s offshore oil deposits now (McCain flipped on this within just a few days of President Bush publicly advancing this policy).
Now you can give factual citations of where McCain holds an economic policy *not* directly inline with President Bush to refute my factual identifications of a few where he is inline.

Posted by: jhw539 | September 2, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm

OK McCain,
Hurricane is over, it only turned out to be a Category 1 and missed New Orleans, so can we get back to that Republican convention of yours??
How long are you going to hide behind this puny tropical storm anyway?
We the American People WANT to see the complete and utter FAILURE of you and your RNC Convention, in all of its Glory!!!
We can’t wait to hear the “POWER” of your acceptance speech on Thursday! We want YOU TO TELL US like Mr. Obama did, why you would make a better president than he would!!!
Say are you going to have a LIME GREEN background behind you again! I really think that one was a winner, do it again!!
We are also all waiting to have your new VP speak to us as well, to assure us that she can step into your shoes at a moments notice and be president…
But can you please tell her not to give that same “hockey mom” speech again, you know the one with the centerpoint being that LIE about the “Bridge to Nowhere” OK? We have had enough of that centerpiece of why you picked her LIE!
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN3125537020080901
That speech is getting a little boring, we want to hear something POWERFUL from your new VP, to show us she is not just a “lightweight” beauty queen!!!
Thanks John!!

Posted by: Davis | September 2, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm

It’s like watching the soaps. I’m on the edge of my seat for whatever transgressions are going to happen next. This campaign was made for our 24hr news service
Could John McCain be that incredibly savvy that Palin’s story just makes her even more tangible a candidate? She has to deal with some of the same issues that the every day American has to deal with. She’s of the people not above them.

Posted by: KMAC | September 2, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm

My prediction – if she supported a fringe party that advocates Alaskan secession from the Union as recently as the last couple years, she will be forced to withdraw from the ticket.

Posted by: Paul | September 2, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm

So, all the Dems are saying that a woman with children can’t be the VP or POTUS. Really?, then why does she have a husband? He seems perfectly capable of being a good father while mom is at work. Also, are Dems so stupid as to think that there isn’t Secret Service Daddy Daycare? While she serves, her family will be very well taken care of. After she has served eight years as POTUS, she will be taken care of for life!

Posted by: Chasmodee | September 2, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm

I’m sorry, but real family values mean you don’t expose your 17 year old pregnant out of wedlock daughter and her teen aged hockey player boyfriend to such very predictable media attention by agreeing to be a candidate for VP.

Posted by: efemmeral | September 2, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm

All we need is an unqualified Democrat to take office and raise taxes do nothing about this war. I have no respect for people anti-war protesting what they don’t know is that we are a free country due to FIGHTING for our independence!

Posted by: Bill Johns | September 2, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm

I think that some of the posters would like to deflect the topic and turn it around on Obama.
All the information that is coming out about Palin is swift and furious. The media is doing a better job of vetting Palin than the McCain camp did. This gives evidence to the type of judgment McCain has, and it doesn’t look very sound.

Posted by: Jennifer | September 2, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm

YOU IDIOTS!
Let’s face it. It would not have mattered who McCain picked. The MSM would have smeared them.
Republicans. Stop crying like babies about Palin. This is a war for the future of the nation: Marxism or Capitalism.
Democrats: Stop whining about “vetting”, and stop making “mommy jokes.” If we are going to start Borking, start with your VP candidate, who was investigated in law school for ethical violations. Also, Google “Neil Kinnock” and Biden. If we are taking about families, where is Obama’s brother? I am my brother’s keeper. Ha.

Posted by: Logicman | September 2, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm

Remember, there are only two candidates in this presidential race who put
Country BEFORE ME !!
Responsibility BEFORE Privilege !!!
Only two, who have stood up and challenged people within their own party.
McCain / Palin in November
Registered Democrat for McCain / Palin :)
Right on. Obama runs under this platform of change but has done NOTHING to even try to make his party reasonable. Pelosi won’t allow a vote on drilling because “she needs to change the world.” Are democrats called republicans extremists? Lol.

Posted by: Cryos | September 2, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm

Hey Repubs,
looks to me the GOP is just unable to rune a decent campaign this year.
Instead of continually throwing nonsenses and smears at Obama, could you guys please detail me your political arguments on the issues? Like:
-Economical and Tax program?
-Healthcare?
-Climate Issue?
You know, like real issues that concern us all?
I’d gladly vote for your candidate, if he has something good to offer to me and my family’s future.
A non-democrat/non-republican dad, tired of offensive posts

Posted by: dad | September 2, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm

the comment by Vic (Posted by: vic | Sep 2, 2008 10:15:02 AM)explains why people still vote for the current Republican party. Don’t you see how unless you’re wealthy or part of a small minority of Americans the rest of the idealism is just used to keep you in the party? I’m not a huge fan of the Dems either but really – how can you not favor a clearly more qualified person (I’m still asking myself this from the last election)

Posted by: Steve | September 2, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm

WARNING – WARNING – WARNING -
Forget the McCain not vetting lie. The Washington Post published a big article detailing the process they went through.
She was on the original list, then the last two weeks she was looked at thoroughly and her background investigated.
Then she was flew to Arizona and met with McCain, his selection committee, then McCain again, then Cindy McCain.
THAT story is as goofy as her non pregnancy.
Libs, try and get a life. I know it’s hard for some of you.
Palin/McCain 08

Posted by: LarryMan | September 2, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm

aMom: “First of all, Palin is an AMERICAN!”
Reportedly, if she had her way and Alaska seceeded from the Union, she wouldn’t be an American.

Posted by: Paul | September 2, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm

I don’t understand the bid deal surrounding Bristol Palin’s pregnacy. F she is seventeen years old( a minor)the media shouldn’t be aloud to talk about her 24/7 there are much more important things to talk about on CNN or The Today Show.WHen a celebrity is young and pregnant it is accepted why the double standard?

Posted by: Candace M | September 2, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm

Whether the Conservatives actually believe that this isn’t a story, they have painted themselves into a corner by declaring a cease fire. They are now forced to focus on the issues and leave personal business out of the race.
This footnote will be revisited if the Conservatives refuse to leave it to the issues.
Personally, I don’t understand why Sarah had to make a statement. Her daughter is of legal consent. They should have down played it…but they didn’t and there is a reason why they chose to platform it with a glorified speech. There’s more to it. But unfortunately Bristol’s celebrity will far exceed any that Barach allegedly has.
She is pop culture. Don’t feel sorry for her. Teenagers like her don’t apologize much for what they do. She’s an adult…so let it be. Move on…and stop making this a bigger issue than it is. It should have said…”I am going to be a grandma”. Embrace it. Stop acting political about it.

Posted by: NuShooz | September 2, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm

Wendy, your Kool-Aid is much more potent than ours!
Fighter of big oil?? Her hubby is an oil worker and she wants to plunder ANWR.
A block to wasteful spending? Paying lobbyists to solicit Wasilla pork? She was for the bridge before she was against it … let’s see, what does Karl call that? Oh yeah, a FLIP-FLOPPER.

Posted by: Bud | September 2, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm

Democrats who vote for Palin have serious issues. Republicans who vote for Palin are hypocrites. But this is entirely expected.

Posted by: Vetter | September 2, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm

Democrats who vote for Palin have serious issues. Republicans who vote for Palin are hypocrites. But this is entirely expected.

Posted by: Vetter | September 2, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm

If he wanted to pick a GOOD female republican he should have picked Elizabeth Dole. She has made a great senator and would make a good VP.
Its sad to see McCain making such mistakes so early on. Too bad. I think I will have to vote for Obama/Biden.

Posted by: howell | September 2, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm

McCain committed a huge mistake! Now, the party needs to waste time cleanig Palin’s mess.

Posted by: Sonny | September 2, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm

Looks like Barack Hussien Obama, 666 maybe he is ANTI Christ,. wants socialist Utopia in USA. Same one the world got rid off in Soviet Union.
McCain/Palin 08

Posted by: vic | September 2, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm

Criticizing Governor Palin for “no foreign policy or national security experience” is a double-standard. George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan and Jimmy Carter were also governors and by definition did not concern themselves with foreign policy and had no national security experience. They all have had foreign policy successes.
Don W. Joe
Asian American Politics
http://www.asianam.org

Posted by: Don | September 2, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm

Sorry my last statement was incorrect. Pelosi “needs to save the world.” I suppose the millions her and other democrats get from environmental groups, lawyers and foreign companies have nothing to do with their extremist decisions.

Posted by: Cryos | September 2, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm

Let me get this straight, Sen. Obama is held accountable for what other adults that he has no control over says but this woman is not to be held accountable for what a child in her house does?
Michelle Obama’s comments can be used against Sen. Obama but Cindy McCains drug stealing, and Mr. Palins drunk driving are not relevant?
It is okay for repubs to make the private sexual affairs of millions of women a political issue but her own child having unprotected, prematial sex and spitting out babies while she is still a baby is a private family matter.
You neo-cons are masters of hypocrisy!

Posted by: chris | September 2, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm

Davis:
Do you find BO powerful. He’s a winp who got stomped by the Clintons at his own convention. he repeated the same old crap as he pretended to be Zues on Mt. Olypussy. But for people like you, wimps are the order of the day. All the more evident since you can’t stand powerful women…they bother you:^(

Posted by: Chasmodee | September 2, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm

Alicia, you ask: “If you can answer yes to any of these questions why in the word are you pointing fingers at Gov. Palin????”
The answer, Alicia, is simple. No one is pointing fingers at her shouting “Sinner!”; we are asking questions about her honesty and her ability to lead and inspire — both of of which are necessary qualities for someone who may very well be sitting in the office of President of the United States.
Yes, Alicia, it’s Christian to forgive and not point fingers, but it’s also important to choose leaders wisely based on their character.
For example, Palin said she’s against earmarks and that she said no to “The Bridge to Nowhere.” Both of these statements have been shown to be lies. That does not condemn her any more than it condemns anyone else — who here hasn’t told a lie in their life? No, she’s not being condemned as a person for lying, but yes, her lies make her unqualified for a vice-presidency that may well turn into a presidency.
She’s also a member of a group whose avowed objective is for Alaska to secede from the U.S. Does that sound like a sentiment desirable in a vice-president?
Not condemning or finger-pointing; just choosing a leader wisely.

Posted by: Cynic | September 2, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm

I thought McCain was the right choice for me. Since Palin came onboard as VP, forget it. I will vote for men with experience – Obama/Biden. I was a card carrying member of the gop but not anymore.

Posted by: Jim | September 2, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm

McCain/Palin will not lose this election. You heard it here first. First off, Palin has energized the Conservative base. Second off, the Conservative base was just waiting for a reason to fight. This carrying on about Palin’s daughter will open the floodgates for the Republican machine to go negative HARD and FAST against Barry O. You think Lee Atwater and Karl Rove would not LOVE an opening like this?
You hear he was a Muslim??? What a great country this is.

Posted by: Slix2072 | September 2, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm

sounds like some heavy vetting alright.
See ya McLame.

Posted by: dj | September 2, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm

Finally McSame and the Repubs are getting exactly what they deserve. Palin? What a loser. As a woman I am appalled that she would launch her 17yr old daughter into the national spotlight for her own political gain. And on top of that she has an infant with down syndrome who requires special care. My God!!!! This shows what kind of mother she is so imagine what kind of leader she will be. And with McCain having had cancer 4times….count them 4 and he is 72…she is literally a heartbeat away from being president. Considering the average white males life expectancy is 75…this is a mess. She is a mess and everyone who votes for her is a mess! OBAMA ALL THE WAY TO THE WHITE HOUSE. NOW THERES CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN.

Posted by: jaron | September 2, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm

Remember, when you hear a bell ring an angel gets its wings – and when Alaskan Oil makes a dollar Alaska citizens get a shiny new check. Palin is on the record as an oil supporter and in favor of drilling ANWR. Unfortunately, it is a sign of her provincial perspective not a
readiness to handle national issues.

Posted by: SFranz | September 2, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm

Don,
please list George W. Bush’s foreign policy successes.

Posted by: Bud | September 2, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm

Here’s a Question we Republicans and other concerned citizens are asking:
Why is the MSM including ABC News
writing this crap instead investigating
Obama’s relationship with
weather underground terrorist
William Ayers?
August 22, 2008
Bill & Barack’s Excellent Adventure
By Thomas Lifson
William Ayers, unrepentant terrorist and education professor, is once again being tied to Barack Obama in the public mind. Controversy builds over the withholding of the archives of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, an expensive failed school reform effort headed by Obama and effectively run by Ayers, held by the library of the University of Illinois Chicago. Researchers who have gained access to a few documents recording the history of the project have found strong evidence of a very important working relationship between the two men on the project, Obama’s sole claim to executive experience.
Oddly enough, even though the project produced no measurable improvement in student performance according to its own final report, educators and administrators — participants and grantees of the CAC — were reported by outside monitors to be often “ebullient” about the activities. For insiders, it was an excellent adventure. For the pupils stuck in the failing public schools of Chicago, an ongoing, unrelieved disaster.
Obama and his campaign long have gone out of their way to downplay, in fact distort, the long and evidently deep relationship between Ayers and Obama. In the Philadelphia Democratic debate last April, George Stephanopoulos asked Obama about his relationship with Ayers, and the candidate responded:
“This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who’s a professor of English in Chicago, who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He’s not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis.
“And the notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago when I was 8 years old, somehow reflects on me and my values, doesn’t make much sense, George. [....]
“So this kind of game, in which anybody who I know, regardless of how flimsy the relationship is, is somehow — somehow their ideas could be attributed to me — I think the American people are smarter than that. They’re not going to suggest somehow that that is reflective of my views, because it obviously isn’t.”
Almost two months earlier, the “neighbor” talking point campaign manager David Axelrod introduced the notion that Obama and Ayers were mostly just neighbors, telling The Politico’s Ben Smith,
“Bill Ayers lives in his neighborhood. Their kids attend the same school,” he said. “They’re certainly friendly, they know each other, as anyone whose kids go to school together.”
Ayers and his wife are in their sixties, while the Obamas are in their mid-forties. Ayers’ children are all adults, while Obama’s children are currently 10 and 7. Axelrod’s prevarication is telling, bespeaking confidence that nobody in the media will bother to dispute an obvious falsehood.
“Flimsy” turns out to be a completely misleading word when it comes to characterizing the Obama-Ayers relationship.
Notwithstanding the campaign’s efforts to direct attention away from Ayers, a 527 group, American Issues Project, has just released the following ad tying Obama to Ayers, and says it is spending 2.8 million on television airtime in key states.
Despite the legally questionable embargo of the CAC archives, most of its tax returns and official evaluations of the CAC have already been made public. In the hands of intrepid bloggers such as Steve Diamond, Tom Maguire and Dan Riehl, there is already proof of Obama’s extensive involvement with Ayers over the course of his chairmanship, and an emerging picture of Obama’s indecisiveness and absence when serious problems needed leadership.
Barack Obama joined the CAC shortly after William Ayers and Anne C. Hallett received news that their letter of November 8, 1994 submitting a grant proposal to The Annenberg Challenge had been approved. They were to get as much as $49 million from Annenberg, plus tens of millions more dollars from other foundations. Obama’s involvement predates by months the actual incorporation of the CAC and his appointment as founding chairman of the board. He came on board almost as soon as the proposal was approved.
How on earth did a relatively unknown associate at a politically-connected but small Chicago law firm come to be entrusted with the heady task of handing out tens of millions of dollars of other people’s money?
Keep in mind that Obama was at this point in his career very undistinguished considering his pedigree. It would be a kind understatement to say he had underperformed his academic resume. Three years out of Harvard Law and the Law Review Presidency, here is a short list of some of the things Obama had not done:
Clerked for a US Supreme Court Justice (or any Federal Judge);
worked in an important legal position at any level of serious responsibility;
written a law review article or note or published anything of legal substance.
As of 1995 Obama may have had the most professionally empty resume of any President of the Harvard Law Review three years gone from “The Law School.”
And yet Ayers gave him a gig that would enable him to hand out large amounts of money to many people in Chicago, who could be expected to be grateful, once Obama ran for office — as he was to do later that very year, in an event held at the home of Ayers and Dohrn.
Quite clearly, Obama was already well-enough known and trusted by Ayers to be offered the sensitive, prestigious and highly visible post of chairman of this important new undertaking. So we must ask, when did Obama and Ayers actually first get to know one another? And how did they come to trust one another?
One possible connection between Ayers and Obama was Sidley Austin, the prestigious Chicago law firm where Obama had a summer job after his first year at Harvard Law School, and where he met his future wife Michelle, assigned to him as a mentor. Also working at Sidley Austin was Bernadine Dohrn, wife of William Ayers, and a fellow Weather Underground terrorist. Given the shared “progressive” politics of the three, they probably knew one another and associated together at a firm known as a white shoe corporate practice.
Or Obama might have met Ayers even earlier, during his stint as a community organizer on the South Side of Chicago, in fact. Ayers was a well-known and very active figure in left wing Chicago politics, and might have encountered the young, articulate, Ivy League educated rookie black radical Obama, working in a Saul Alinksy spinoff.
We soon will know much more about the period of collaboration between Obama and Ayers following the start of the CAC. Even if the archives continue to be withheld from public scrutiny, the cat is out of the bag with the documents available to all. The formidable analytical engine of bloggers trading insights and new data is warming up.
But the period prior to 1995, the time when Bill and Barack, the terrorist and the presidential aspirant, got to know one another and build the relationship of trust, is one excellent adventure likely to remain obscure.

Posted by: reaganfan | September 2, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm

Between Obama/Biden and McCain/Palin, Obama/Biden is the lesser of the two evil tickets. Pinch your nose shut.

Posted by: Vetter | September 2, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm

It is so absurd, insulting and irresponsible = MAYBE McCain had enough. He couldn’t win on his own convictions – the right wing fascists wouldn’t allow it. MAYBE this is his way of making a point? One of them has to drop out – Palin or McCain.

Posted by: erica | September 2, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm

Like everyone was commenting on Friday, Sarah Palin is a virtual unknown on the national political scene.
It is typical that anything deemed BAD or CONTROVERSIAL would be the first items that the public and MSM come up with to acquaint people with her.
A DUI her husband acquired 22 years ago, before they were even married, before he was a father or husband, in my book, is irrelevant.
A poor decision made by her 17-year-old daughter while on a Friday night date with her boyfriend, does not qualify as a blemish on her record as far as I am concerned. The only reason we are even learning this is because of the beliefs that Palin and her family share regarding abortion. Who knows how many other children of presidential or vice-presidential candidates had daughters who became pregnant, but the circumstances were quickly remedied by a quick trip to the clinic, or in less recent times, Puerto Rico?
Her two-year membership in a group that allegedly considered secession for Alaska hardly compares with a 20-year membership in an American-hating, radical church. At least she had the good sense to leave after a short period of time. Just because she was a member does not mean she was living and breathing this group’s doctrines, or attending every meeting. In the 1950s, how many Americans attended perhaps one meeting of what was deemed by the McCartney people to be an “Un-American” group, and then had their lives ruined forever??
Her seeming support years ago of Senator Stevens, also seems to be a choice that she reconsidered, and then went in the opposite direction from after a short period of time.
Regarding “Troopergate,” until the final results of the investigation are in, it is hard to say how that one will end. I read on Friday that she was soon to be deposed regarding the investigation. Anyone with half a brain in their head, even someone with nothing to hide, would hire legal representation to assist them during a deposition while they are being questioned by attorneys from the other side. There are two sides to every story, and I’m sure Palin has hers.
I am certain that once everyone draws their claws back in and allows the dust to settle, Palin will sit down with the media and provide answers to all of these lingering questions.

Posted by: SandyB | September 2, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm

I’m no democrat, neither Republican, but I have to say this 72 y.o. Vet/Hockey Mom Ticket is sooooooooooo 80′s, and so not 2008 to me ;)
Posted by: da | Sep 2, 2008 12:01:14 PM
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Hahahaha!!! So true!

Posted by: LOL | September 2, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm

“….he chose someone to be his running mate who has almost no national security experience and who is so much of an unknown quantity?…..
Well, she is the VP running mate! What makes anyone think Obama has any of these qualities….National Security Experience…. an “…Unknown quantity”….? Give me a break!!!!!

Posted by: M. Vermilye | September 2, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm

jhw59-
well done, you cited 4 examples where bush and mccain are the same on ‘economic policy’ yet claim that their policies are *identical*. Identical in the common english language means exactly the same or without distinction. you have failed to support your outlandish claim. for starters, mccain wants to cut the corporate tax rate from 35% to 25%. thus, their ecomomic polcies are not identical. further, mccain has not spent a day as president nor has he written one budget proposal as president. most of what you are claiming is based purely on conjecture. finally, republican economic policy, not bush economic policy, is proven and supported by the most respected economist in the world.

Posted by: steve | September 2, 2008, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm

Someone had the audacity to claim that Palin has foreign policy experience?
Oh yeah, because Alaska is close to Russia.
The GOP spin doctors are going to eventually unravel. They’re sounding like a broken record with all of those programed talking points.
Palin is not this reformer that people claim, because she was one of the forefront supporters of Ted Stevens and supported one of his 527 ads. She was for Bridge to Nowhere, and she lobbied for $40 million in earmarks for the town of Wasilla. How can she be a champion of ehtics reform, when she’s being investigated for abuse of power?

Posted by: Jennifer | September 2, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm

chas -
funny name-calling … when all else fails, hm?

Posted by: Bud | September 2, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm

Wade,
The Big Deal IS the fact that SHE, may end up in charge of the greatest nation on earth that has fallen on hard times!!!
None of the people u listed had anything to do with public office!!!!!!

Posted by: John | September 2, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm

Woody: “One could argue that Palin has as much foreign policy experience as Bill Clinton did when he ran for president, governed a much larger state, managed a bigger budget and oversaw 20% of the nations energy supply.”
Palin only got a passport in 2007, Bill Clinton was a Rhodes scholar who studied abroad.
Arkansas has over 4 times the population of Alaska. It is generally accepted that governing trees is not too hard and, believe it or not, our entire system of government bases representation on population.
Alaksa has about $11 billion in revenue (they are LOVING the high price of oil) while Arkansas has about $15 billion in revenue.
In 2007 Alaska generated 263,595 barrels of oil. America imported 3,658,701. If your math is a bit weak, Alaska supplied about 7% of our oil needs. Note that oil is only a portion of the nations energy needs – this completely ignores the electrical and natural gas components, which Alaska does not help provide.
Were you incorrect or just lying? Do you even know anymore?

Posted by: jhw539 | September 2, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm

“I don’t understand the bid deal surrounding Bristol Palin’s pregnacy. F she is seventeen years old( a minor)the media shouldn’t be aloud to talk about her 24/7 there are much more important things to talk about on CNN or The Today Show.WHen a celebrity is young and pregnant it is accepted why the double standard?
Posted by: Candace M”
The answer is simple. Pure hyprocrisy. Liberals attempt to use people’s own conscience and values against themselves to make people believe the liberals really care about the issues not the person, but liberals show how shallow and partisan they are when the person doesn’t agree with them.
Democrats had a ton of prepared speeches and attack ads prepped for Pawlenty or Romney so were unprepared for this. So their knee jerk reaction is to attack the teenage pregnancy issue since they have nothing else ready to rally their entitlement crowd bloggers to.

Posted by: Cryos | September 2, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm

I am sure Todd is all for this. He is known as the shadow govenor. Her stint as Mayor was also filled with problems. Who vetted her? They are the ones who should be fired.
NO matter how hard the republicans try and sell the country [out] and their delegates, the Palins will either resign, step down or cause reds states to love the color blue.

Posted by: BDR | September 2, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm

The Maverick’s choice to choose an unknown woman speaks volumes of his desire to gain Clinton supporters through the use of another woman, who clearly has no experience nor business being a candidate on his ticket. How many women (Republican or Democratic) love being used to further McCain’s chauvinistic dream? Why else would he pick her with no real political experience? Obviously, the Maverick will go to any lengths to become president. Are these the kind of chances your willing to vote for, and what do you think he will do in the White House?

Posted by: TD from CA | September 2, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm

Steve and Tom,
Tax cuts are economic snake oil. Shame on us indeed if we keep falling for that. If anything, there is an inverse relationship between tax cuts for the wealthy and a strong economy. It’s not how much you tax, it’s what you do with the money, and Democrats understand the value of infrastructure and positive support for productivity. That’s why Democrats are always better for the economy:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/31/business/31view.html?em

Posted by: Nomo Stew | September 2, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm

Ya know, I don’t give a rat’s ass about foreign experience. Foreign experience usually means handing out your hard-earned tax dollars to corrupt dictators. AMERICA and AMERICANS first.

Posted by: Vetter | September 2, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm

Obama is not qualified to be president. He was not vetted. Of, course, the media has been keeping his dirt under the rug but that can’t go on forever. Since we vote for president, not VP, I’ll vote for the person most qualified for the job of President. That is McCain. McCain didn’t need to pick a woman to woo women voters. He will get the votes of all women who have the ability to think for themselves, regardless of his choice for VP. McCain/Palin is for cleaning up government. Obama/Biden is as corrupt as they come.

Posted by: ipotter | September 2, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm

Two comments: Why is it that in mentioning Obama’s experience, people seem to leave out his eight years in the Illinois State Senate? And why are conservatives so willing to say “this is what happens in daily life” when they seem to be incapable of recognizing that a lot of what they preach against and judge others by also is part of the normal human condition. That is the kind of tolerance that Obama speaks about.

Posted by: Lisa | September 2, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm

would like to know what Palin would do if she receives a 3am phone call.
Will she:
1) Take the call
2) Need to breastfeed her own child
3) Help her daughter with her newborn
Family should always come first. There is nothing sexist about that. I don’t recall any other Presidential candidate having so much baggage. She should be a responsible parent and wait 4 more years.

Posted by: sarah | September 2, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm

Democrats are having a hell of a time trying to discredit Palin. Pregnant teen? so what. “problems” with McCains vetting process? come on. experience (executive and foreign affairs)? you’ve got to be kidding….. I recommend that democrats point that high-minded criticism at their own candidate before they look to the opposition.
Democrats have no moral or factual standing on any of this.

Posted by: Rod | September 2, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm

plunder anwr? tapping into those resources will have a direct impact on our lives and will move us toward energy independence. you need to check your facts about the impacts it will have on the environment.

Posted by: steb | September 2, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm

TTRO – Throw the Rascals Out (Again).
Neither McCain nor Obama will individually decide the fate of this country. The Congress, Senate & Supreme Court are deciding this now as in the past and as in the future. The best we can do is vote for the person & party we think is the lesser of two or three evils. It is unfortunate it has come to that. Instead of picking the best, we have to pick the best of the worst ones.
Whether I am voting locally or nationally, usually I vote for the loser. This time I am considering changing my vote. I may vote for the one I want to lose, not win.
Perhaps the reason the RNC has delayed the conference this week is not because of the hurricane, but because they hope Gov. Palin will back out or at least they will have time to rethink their new problem this week. Personal and Family matters are just that – personal and off limits just as Senator Obama has stated.
Both have something to offer this country, but what to the Democrats and the Republicans have to offer and how are they going to do it. i.e, make their promises work?

Posted by: TBuzz | September 2, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm

If you are judging Palin because you believed she “lied” than you really are holding Republicans and Democrats to different standards. Bill Clinton is a liar~ He had no problem lying to the American public and NoBama Hussain is no different.
What’s the difference between a Palin and NoBama? NOTHING

Posted by: Phil | September 2, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm

nomo stew-
how typical, you cite a new york times article to support you view that democratic economic policy is superior. by the way, it is generally accepted among economists that economic policy doesnt take effect for 4-6 years after implementation. but i’m sure you knew that.

Posted by: steve | September 2, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm

Is McCain the father?

Posted by: Firth | September 2, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm

Is Gov Palin really the best choice that John McCain could find? I am sure that he could have done better. With Republicans recently suffering from so many high profile sex scandals, he should have advoided this kind of distraction. For those of us Independents who truly value family life, this is a death knell. I absolutely agree that the 17 year old should have her baby, her choices in getting her there are simply poor. By having premarital, unprotected sex she has gone against the values my family stands for. I do not think I want my 10 year old and 7 year old to see Gov Palin’s family as an example.

Posted by: Carol | September 2, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm

Who knows -
Maybe McCain was so disgusted at his own party base’s refusal to let him choose Lieberman, that he picked someone he sorta knew was dodgy, that the party would go nuts over, before letting all the juice out – making them look like fools.
Maybe he’s Sampson in the Temple, pulling the whole edifice down around their self-righteous ears.
Maybe this is his way of saving our country.
(With all the Hollywood story lines breaking out over the last day, might as well add one of my own. This election has gone from unusual, to down right weird).

Posted by: Chicka | September 2, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm

steve: “for starters, mccain wants to cut the corporate tax rate from 35% to 25%. thus, their ecomomic polcies are not identical.”
Really? Google Bush corporate tax cut. A cut of the corporate tax rate is a policy President Bush has been pushing since last year.
“further, mccain has not spent a day as president nor has he written one budget proposal as president. most of what you are claiming is based purely on conjecture.”
Are you completely ignorant of how the budget process works? Again, the president writes it and Congress votes on it. McCain has been making public his position on economic policy through his votes for decades.
“finally, republican economic policy, not bush economic policy, is proven and supported by the most respected economist in the world. ”
Nonsense. Who is this most respected economist in the world? And I suppose we are suppose to assume that the economic policy implemented by Republicans when they had control of both Congress and the presidency is somehow “bush economic policy” rather than Republican policy? Corporate socialism, privatizing gain while socializing loss (ala Bear Sterns) is hardly widely respected economic policy, nor is allowing infrastructure to decay, nor is consumer economic stimulus approaches versus infrastructure investment.

Posted by: jhw539 | September 2, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm

How did McCain in the last 1% of Naval Acadmey class get to be an aviator,when only the top classmen were selected?Wasn’t McCain still married to his then seroiusly injured wife while still dating his present wife?. What is this called? Didn’t McCain have a hand in the saving and loan scandals?Didn’t Sarah Palin belong to Indepedent Alaska party?Did she belong to Group 527?Is she not against premarital sex?Is she not against Planned parenthood?Is she not against sex education?Isn’t she against corruption?Did she lie to us about the Brigde to nowhere?Did she abused her power and seek large lobby money?What do they stand for?Poor judgment,hypocrisy or just lies or all of the above?America deserves better than that.Yes, McCain served the nation well in uniform,was a POW as all other POWS. But as a leader, a sick old leader? No!Two wrongs do not make one right,not even a half right. Good leadership calls for good judgment and intelligence. McCain and Palin fail on all counts.The Twenty first century America needs intelligent, dynamic and beyond repproach leaders. McCain and Palin are not.Let’s spare our country further disgrace.

Posted by: jim page | September 2, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm

Maury says: You are NOT the father

Posted by: Vetter | September 2, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm

A plant? Give me a break…are you?
Look around you people….are you blind? It doesn’t take rocket science to read between the lines of many of these comments, here and everywhere else. Go look for yourself.
I have been a staunch Obama supporter from day one, NOT a Hillary supporter…as she was a Republican is disguise. Get over yourselves. It is less about Palin simply being a woman and more about the fact that she obviously can’t even keep control of her family and we want this woman being our VP? Am I a minority voice in the Democratic party…..again, look around,…obviously, I’m not!

Posted by: Jim in Seattle | September 2, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm

Children baggage? Women VP’s sleeping their way to the top? I suggest you all get your heads out of your *sses.

Posted by: normal | September 2, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm

Let’s talk about the Republican “SHOTGUN WEDDING” that is going to be coming up between Bristol and Levi. You know the “boy” that doesn’t want to have any kids?
Gee, I sure hope that he doesn’t want to get a job in Alaska state government…
Because if he messes up with her daughter, Sarah Palin will have him fired!!!!
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Davis | September 2, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm

TBuzz: you are 100% correct in my opinion, the delay is to stall to “vet” her more and get her to back out. I hope Rove is behind the scenes and through some of these “revelations” trying to make this happen. the problem is the genie is out of the bottle now and no matter what happens there will be fallout.

Posted by: 1percenter | September 2, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm

I’d bet the ranch Palin will resign from the ticket, or better yet, back off the ticket before she is formally nominated this week

Posted by: DublBogey | September 2, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm

Paul… PROVE IT! Unless you have EVIDENCE it is hear say! You are part of the problem…. debate the issues, not make personal attacks. Thank you for helping to prove my point!

Posted by: aMom | September 2, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm

Who cares what grades you had in elementary school or what rank you had or what college you went to? I for one am freakin’ TIRED of the Harvard/Yale cult. Time for a president who did NOT go to Harvard or Yale.
W went to both and look how he turned out.

Posted by: Vetter | September 2, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm

Vetter: Actually, I’m agreeing (somewhat) with one of your ravings.
Remember in May when our boy McCain reluctantly let go former Congressman Thomas Loeffler from the campaign because it came out Loeffler represents Saudi Arabia as a registered lobbyist?
My problem isn’t with McCain – its with the people he hires. His campaign has run out of money twice and he sold his soul to black gold, Texas tea, for this campaign.
Big oil would love another puppet they can use to control the White House. While McCain is no puppet, Palin might suit them just fine.

Posted by: SFranz | September 2, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm

“you need to check your facts about the impacts it will have on the environment.”
YOU need to check your facts on the impacts it will have on the oil market.

Posted by: Bud | September 2, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm

wow – i just linked here and started
reading the comments and thought i must have accidently linked to the Democratic
Party Headquarters blog …
then looked at top banner – saw it was
ABC news site and realized why its all
left wing nonsense here.
who CARES who is vice president ?
We had Nixon’s fiasco in mid 70′s
over 30 years ago – slim chance of
something like that ever happening again
- then FDR’s death in 1945 over 60 yrs
ago … so im not staying up nights
worrying about vice presidental successions .
I was undecided until the Russian
invasion of Georgia ( don’t tell me
the S.Ossetians started it ).
THIS was the best test we’ve had to see
how these two candidates would react on
foreign policy.
McCain immediate strong response was
exactly what the USA needed .
Obama’s give-me-a-few-days-for-my-advisors-to-tell-me-what-to-say
was amazingly inept.
On domestic policy however – neither
candidate impresses me.
We DESPARATELY need better candidates
but WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND would subject their family to this crap ?
Good thing Jesus isn’t running for
Office … since he had no education,
unmarried, no money, “bad” friends,
and “new” religous ideas ->
ABCNews would have a field day reporting
on JC !!!!
He/She who is without sin ( or pregnant
daughters) – let them throw stones
..and write for ABC”News”.
Shame on ALL OF YOU for posting this
story .. THIS ISN”T NEWS !
Obama’s BEST moment for me has come
NOW – when he rightly condemns such
hypocritical invasion of privacy.
I have ZERO respect for ABCNews and all
other reporters until they subject
THEMSELVES to the same SCRUTINY as they
feel free to SUBJECT EVERYONE ELSE .
We need no comedy shows on TV .
Just list on Air all the sins and
peccadillo’s of the the TV anchormen – AND THEIR OWN FAMILIES and we’d have
enough jokes for years to come.
And of course – lets not forget all
the executives making policy…
If anyone feels they have to right to
tell other people what to think -
then they must open up their OWN lives
for examination and ridicule.
and all their executives.

Posted by: dan | September 2, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm

Is Sarah Palin blaming the federal government for her daughters pregnancy because we have not spent enough money on abstinence programs? Now that’s demeaning to parents!

Posted by: Knwmn | September 2, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm

So is that fact that the 1st term senator from Illinois’ mother was a pregnat teenager when she got married and the fact that his father died while driving drunk ………should any of that be important? Come on…………

Posted by: clinton from MA | September 2, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm

Obama probably thinks ANWR is one of his Arab/muslim supporters at the University of Chicago. he has never been there, Biden has never been there and neither have you Obama bloggers.

Posted by: geevill | September 2, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm

No, Clinton, that should not be important because it has nothing to do with the candidate himself. The difference with Palin is that SHE is under an ethics investigation, SHE was a member of the Independant Party in Alaska advocating for cecession from the union.

Posted by: DublBogey | September 2, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm

In conclusion:
McCain is senile, and Palin is a dingbat
Obama is no change, and Biden is no change.
If you think Obama has a magic wand for “change”, I have a bridge to sell.

Posted by: Vetter | September 2, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm

geevil, one thing you are right about is that we should go back 20 some years and ask about Obama’s marijuna use. Then, of course, we should also go back 20 years and ask about McCain’s infidelity. Unless of course you want to apply a double standard?

Posted by: DublBogey | September 2, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm

Dan,
this conversation has included viewpoints from both sides, I don’t think ABC is really filtering it.
Just – one side has facts, one side has drivel and prejudice.
Which is which probably depends on your viewpoint, eh?
bottom line is HOPE vs. FEAR and I have to go with HOPE because I am sick of FEAR.

Posted by: Bud | September 2, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm

It’s too bad about Gov. Palin’s teen-aged daughter being 5 months pregnant by her high-school boyfriend. NOTE: It’s ironic in that Palin favors the teaching of CREATIONISM in public schools — but is against kids’ instruction in the basic facts of PROCREATION and methods to prevent same. The girl is going to have the baby and HOPES to marry the boyfriend — maybe a White House wedding?
Then there’s the news of an ongoing investigation of the Gov. Palin, to determine if she unethically used her position to push for the firing of her ex-brother-in-law from his position as state trooper. Sen. McCain’s rash judgment in choosing Gov. Palin as his running mate and his possible successor despite knowing about these potentially explosive negatives sure to surface in breaking news? Eeeww!
Does anyone recall Sen. McGovern’s having to REPLACE his candidate for Vice President because of Sen. Eagleton’s having sought treatment for depression in his distant past? (Sargent Shriver joined the ticket instead). Anyone watching Gov. Palin presenting her public record in over-the-top terms might suspect the opposite side of that coin: MANIC tendencies! Wouldn’t a more balanced parent pass up a penetrating national spotlight on herself to shield an unwed pregnant daughter from wider media frenzy? Palin’s highly self-centered.
Is Sen. McCain bewitched by Gov. Palin’s extreme fundamentalism and huge enthusiasm for increased oil and gas drilling in Alaska? Does he need more campaign funds and activism from the far right?? He might have been better served by pursuing a more thorough grilling of his candidate, because his reputation for impulsive behavior is again at the fore. And what of the perennial GOP mantra “family values”??? Not a New Deal, but a Dead Deal at last.
McCain says he’s also a “reform” candidate, but he’s really regressing to the G W Bush rejection of truth, science, individual rights and separation of church & state, favoring the dark days before Roe v Wade!

Posted by: ArtLvr | September 2, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm

I’m not worried what negative thing(s) we need to know about Palin BUT I know you and those like you are hoping.
McCain and Palin all the way, Baby!

Posted by: DZ | September 2, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm

To whoever says Obama respects your PRIVACY: Didn’t he just vote for WARRANTLESS WIRETAPPING?
Give me a break with the Obama worship and revisionist crap.

Posted by: Vetter | September 2, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm

whoa, now smoking herb (a gift from God) and adultery are now comparable?
I love this train of “thought.”

Posted by: Bud | September 2, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm

Is the teenage daughter really getting married? Her boyfriend’s Myspace page said, “I’m a F…. redneck… I’ll kick ass. I don’t want kids.”

Posted by: Sue Ann | September 2, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm

What kind of mother would put her teenaged daughter through this?

Posted by: Sue Ann | September 2, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm

The anger and frustration being vented by the liberals here confirms John McCain made the correct choice. I am an independent that had decided to vote for Bob Barr until the Palin choice. I am pleasantly surprised by McCain’s insight and I feel I have underestimated him. I will vote Republican…

Posted by: Swifty | September 2, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm

“plunder anwr? tapping into those resources will have a direct impact on our lives and will move us toward energy independence. you need to check your facts about the impacts it will have on the environment.
Posted by: steb”
Democrats don’t have facts when it comes to oil, energy, and the environment. Their special interests get their nutjob leaders like Pelosi to throw out logic in the name of idealistic eutopia “saving the world.”
All of Greenpeace, the Sierra Club, etc special interest millions sure have gone to good use. Liberal protect extremist environmentalism with political correctness and have their voters fighting policies that hurt themselves and their country. More liberals need to leave the classroom for the real world from time to time.

Posted by: Cryos | September 2, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm

So far, the things they have decided to report about Sarah Palin, indicates that she might ought to be a Democrat, who, by and large on purpose do the things they say Palin has done.

Posted by: Texas Troublemaker | September 2, 2008, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm

I am one of the women who supported Hillary, who was disappointed when she lost to Obama and seriously considered jumping ship to vote for McCain. Not anymore. I am dumbfounded and insulted by McCain’s haste and lack of judgment in the selection of Sarah Palin for Vice President. Does McCain really believe I supported Hillary ONLY because she’s a woman? That I will give my vote for any woman who has a pedigree with a conservative agenda? I didn’t support Hillary to make history, per see, but to address the complex issues in my life and those of other Americans. Unemployment, falling home values, inadequate public schools, the never-ending war in Iraq, and increasing health care costs are issues that greatly affect me. I DON’T NEED A MAVERICK, Mr. McCain. I need someone (male or female) who has a plan, has a history of making sound judgments, who exemplifies leadership to direct a better life for me, my family, my country. I am so sad to say this, but this does not look like the same John McCain of the past. I liked John McCain and even though I would have voted for Hillary, there’s a part of me that would have wondered if McCain should have received my vote. I can now go to the polls assured (after doing my research) that McCain is NOT a maverick, but a man so eager to win he’s forgotten how serious his actions affect others.

Posted by: Sheri | September 2, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm

The Dems look for any reason to slam McCain because he represents the party that keeps beating them. He could choose a homeless person and would still win because Dems are losers. Look at 2004-they should never have lost that election-it was a perfect storm for them to win and yet they didn’t. Deja vu all over again for the Dems.

Posted by: Brian | September 2, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm

“What kind of mother would put her teenaged daughter through this?
Posted by: Sue Ann”
All the “compassionate, loving” liberals are the ones putting the daughter through this. Had this been Obama’s daughter there wouldn’t be any worries he would have the seal mallot ready to club it as soon as it pops out.

Posted by: Cryos | September 2, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm

“What kind of daughter would put her teenage daughter through this?”
An unfit one, Sue Allen. She should go be a parent and pull herself out of this race, fast.
Obama 08

Posted by: Jim in Seattle | September 2, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm

Regardless of her personal life, Palin is a flipflopper who has used the federal government to fund PORK projects: “Palin undertook a lobby effort that, during her last four-year term as mayor, secured nearly $27 million in Congressional earmarked funds for Wasilla (note: Wasilia had a population of 5,469 as of the 200 census). The largest earmark was $15 million for a rail link between Wasilla and the ski resort community of Girdwood, home town of Senator Ted Stevens.” If this isn’t a “bridge to nowhere”, then what is? SHAMEFUL.

Posted by: Mickey | September 2, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm

I get so sick of being labelled “liberal.”
I’d have to call myself a social libertarian and a fiscal conservative … I’m 900% behind Barack Obama.
Whatever, you love your labels, it helps to divide us, right?

Posted by: Bud | September 2, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm

Everybody needs to get over this. I applaud her. She is a working Mother and showes people she can have a family too. It is by choice she does what she does. Like my Choice to stay home with my children. If she was a male we wouldn’t be saying anything about Him working and having kids. We are making this a big issue, when who really cares. At this point its a race to dig up the worst about people,when well enough should be left alone.

Posted by: Becki | September 2, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm

Isn’t it obvious that this election is NOT about what is best for the country? What is best for us is almost always in the middle. NEITHER side get’s my gold star for being right! This election is about the same divisive BS we have argued about for way too long now! It is about the haves versus the have-nots. It is about incessant greed. It is about who is more of a hypocrite. I have no problem with a “Christian” minor breaking GOD’s laws and getting pregnant out of wedlock because mistakes happen…unless we listen to and obey our mother who preaches abstinence, in this case! I have a problem with the hypocrisy of the party supporting her. Never practicing what they preach! Impeaching a President while having affairs. Clinton inhaled, but Bush snorted coke.” The former matters, the latter does not. Their actions ALWAYS end up speaking louder than their words. Hmmm…Christians who believe in no abortion then agree to capital punishment and war (which brings eminent death to thousands). Christians whose preachers tell them their wealth is a reward from GOD for working hard? Was Jesus rich? It’s so funny how one minute it’s…”you bad democrats” and the next it is “forgive the republicans.” As I understand it, Bush did cocaine too! I think (I said THINK) he and Cheney have 3 DUI’s between them. How many DUIs do you think Congress has? It is scary! Bristol’s boyfriend SHOULD be in jail for statutory rape. If he was black, he would be! Since he is now of the priveledged sect, he will be honored for impregnating a minor and then marrying her when they are way too young! What about Palin’s judgment to end up pregnant at 43? I am not slamming them for messing up. We all do. I am slamming them for acting like they are perfect. The greedy of this country have hijacked the GOP under the guise of Christianity! How shameful. Unless you make over $1 million a year, you should not be voting Republican! Wake UP! You know who you are. You cannot be a christian and then believe in staunch bigotry, greed, and war mongering.

Posted by: Kirk | September 2, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm

sounds radical to me…not
Platform and Goal of the Alaskan Independence Party
Preamble
We affirm that all political power is inherent in the people; that all government originates with the people, is founded on their will only, is instituted to protect the rights of the individual; that all persons have a natural right to life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, and the enjoyment of the rewards of their own industry; that all persons are equal and entitled to equal protection under the law. We stand on a firm constitutional foundation.
Platform
We pledge to exert our best efforts to accomplish the following:
To effect full compliance with the constitutions of the United States of America and the State of Alaska.
To support and defend States’ Rights, Individual Rights, Property Rights, and the Equal Footing Doctrine as guaranteed by the constitutions of the United States of America and the state of Alaska.
To advocate the convening of a State Constitutional Convention at the constitutionally designated 10 year interval.
To reinforce the unalienable rights endowed by our Creator to Alaska law, by eliminating the use of the word “privilege” in the Alaska statutes.
To amend the Constitution of the State of Alaska so as to re-establish the rights of all Alaskan residents to entry upon all public lands within the state, and to acquire private property interest there in, under fair and reasonable conditions. Such property interest shall include surface and sub-surface patent.
To foster a constitutional amendment abolishing and prohibiting all property taxes.
To seek the complete repatriation of the public lands, held by the federal government, to the state and people of Alaska in conformance with Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17, of the federal constitution.
To prohibit all bureaucratic regulations and judicial rulings purporting to have the effect of law, except that which shall be approved by the elected legislature.
To preserve and protect the Alaska Permanent Fund, Permanent fund earnings, earnings reserve fund and individual Permanent Fund Dividends.
To provide for the direct popular election of the attorney general, all judges, and magistrates.
To provide for the development of unrestricted, statewide, surface transportation and utility corridors as needed by the public or any individual.
To affirm and assert every possible right-of-way established under R.S. 2477 of July 26, 1866, before its repeal by the Federal Land Management Policy Act of October 21, 1976.
To support the right of the individual to keep and bear arms.
To support the complete abolition of the concept of sovereign or governmental immunity, so as to restore accountability for public servants.
To support the rights of parents to privately or home school their children.
To support the privatization of government services.
To oppose the borrowing of money by government for any purposes other than for capital improvements.
To strengthen the traditional family and support individual accountability without government interference or regulation.
To support the right of jurors to judge the law as well as the facts, according to their conscience.
To support “Jobs for Alaskans…First!”

Posted by: normal | September 2, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm

CAROL – My goodness…
You don’t want your kids to see Sarah Palin because she had a baby, her daughter is pregnant and not married. You are ASHAMED!!
Guess you were ashamed too when Slick Willie had sex with a little girl half his age and lied to his wife about it??? Did you have your kids “look away” from him too?
Sarah Palin will overcome this problem. But most of all, she will overcome all this democratic vitriolic HATE that permiates the democrat party.
Palin/McCain 08

Posted by: LarryMan | September 2, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm

cryos,
I can’t cut and paste your comment, but that is way out of line.
Out west we have a word for you, it rhymes with “bass hole”

Posted by: Bud | September 2, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm

Geevill,
You’re an idiot!! Drilling in the Alaskan Wildlife Reserve will not decrease our reliance on foreign oil. It will take at least 10 years for oil drilling to have any kind of effect.
And for the people who claim that a level of intelligence shouldn’t have to be a requirement for a President or Vice President are probably the same people who voted for Bush twice.
Democrats as a whole aren’t attacking Palin’s daughter. We are simply pointing out the level of hypocrisy in their claims to having a hold on family values. Palin is a staunch supporter of abstinence only programs instead of real sex education for teens. And when news broke that her own daughter turns out to be pregnant nullifies her argument of abstinence only for teens.

Posted by: Jennifer | September 2, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm

“Does McCain really believe I supported Hillary ONLY because she’s a woman? That I will give my vote for any woman who has a pedigree with a conservative agenda? I didn’t support Hillary to make history, per see, but to address the complex issues in my life and those of other Americans.”
Of course Hillary voters were a factor in this decision but I don’t think the primary factor. Liberals try this “republicans are racist and sexist and only want white males in office.” This was partially an image issue; a false image created by the racist, sexist left wing who sees minorities and women as pawns not equal players.
McCain countered that punch and came out swinging. You’ll see proof to the truth that republicans will support and race or gender if they agree with the person on the issues. The shallow, disingenous liberal attack will be moot.

Posted by: Cryos | September 2, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm

Midwest fiscal conservative. Im not voting for mccain. If i vote for mccain I get depression with wwiii. I do not trust him to sit at the top. Plus he cheated on his first wife after her car accident and hooked up with the sugar mommy.
Palin vp pick wasis stupid. sold out to right wind extremeists. Sounds like highschool popluarity/beautey contest. Only two meetings with her. SHe for aK seceding from union.
No to mcsame..

Posted by: Whosthatthere | September 2, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm

“Did you have your kids “look away” from him too?”
I wish I could have, but the Republicans wouldn’t allow it. We didn’t even have to know, let alone look away.

Posted by: Bud | September 2, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm

Far too much press coverage of the 17 year old daughter. Stay out of Palin’s children’s lives. Obama’s dad died how? None of this is important! What is important is what each candidate can or will do. Americans do not need the press to interpret or “think” for them. This is just like the “journalist” reporting his/her interpretaion of what was said in a State of the Union. News folks should report the facts – that is news. However, creating stories and calling it “news” is what we get and it ranks right up there with waste management.

Posted by: RWH | September 2, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm

Gov Palin is the chief law enforcement officer for her state. Does she have any plans to charge the 18 year old for statutory rape who impregnated her 17 year old daughter?

Posted by: Michael | September 2, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm

As a registered nurse and mother, I don’t have any compliments to give Gov. Palin. What kind of LEADER would hop a 8 hour flight in a high risk pregnancy with her water broken? Maybe she did not care about the health of her child, but she certainly did not put any pea size of thought into the safety of other passengers. No normal person would fly in that fashion. She’s going to fall and make the GOP look absolutely ridiculous!!!! And if she is so PRO LIFE, WHY would you hide your pregnancy for 8 months? Stand up and lead by example, Gov. Palin. It’s a house of cards ready to fall, fall, fall!!!

Posted by: Janet | September 2, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm

aMom: “Paul… PROVE IT! Unless you have EVIDENCE it is hear say!”
Prove what?
That’s an honest question. In the flurry of messages here, I’m not sure what I responded to who.

Posted by: Paul | September 2, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm

Thank God there is still free speech in America.People fought and died for our freedom to this (and still do).
Be grateful that you live in a great country like this.I am Republican, but don’t hate any Democrats. They are fellow Americans, no mattter how wrong or misguided they may be.
Is Sarah Palin blaming the federal government for her daughters pregnancy because we have not spent enough money on abstinence programs? Now that’s demeaning to parents!
I don’t know if she is.But more responsible parenting in this nation would solve many, many problems.
America: Democrats and Republicans -
Start taking more responsiblility for yourself and in the world around you. Make your part of the world a better place to be.YOU make the difference.

Posted by: Buddy | September 2, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm

I amused by all the discussions about Sarah Palin and her qualifications to be President if John McCain is elected President but cannot complete his term in office. All the Republican strategists say emphatically that she is. My question is “Suppose John McCain, for some reason, has to give up his presidential bid before the election takes place. Will the Republicans and their strategists, who obviously believe that the average American is an idiot, allow her to run for President of the United States of America?”.

Posted by: Amused | September 2, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm

I’m concerned about McCain’s health. He has had several serious bouts with cancer and was not forthcoming about releasing his medical records. He allowed selected members of the press to be in a room for only 3 hours to review reams of paper about his health. And now he selects someone as VP with so little experience. Why aren’t the press dealing with this basic reality?

Posted by: Bob | September 2, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm

One good thing is this may put that very silly “Barack” (blessed) “Hussein” (a name meaning “good, small, and handsome) business to rest.
Now we’ve got Sarah Palin with her own naming issues times five:
Track (a boy named during running season)
Bristol Bay – the name of the Palin fishing hole
Willow – another town in Alaska
Piper – a common plane in Alaska
Trig Paxson Van – Paxson is a local snowboarding area and Van is a pun of
“Van Palin” for “Van Halen” and Trig is Palin’s great uncle.
Then we have Joe (“He shall add”) Biden
and John (“Lord is gracious”) McCain along with Sarah (“Princess”) Palin.
Interestingly, all of the candidates (including Barack) have semetic first names.
Bring out the torches and pitchforks! We have a candidate with a love for “funny names!”

Posted by: SFranz | September 2, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm

Cryos, If it were Obama’s daughter, the reaction would be the same, except from Republicans. I would question the values and sensitivity of him and his wife if they chose to put their teenaged daughter through this.

Posted by: Sue Ann | September 2, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm

“Does she have any plans to charge the 18 year old for statutory rape who impregnated her 17 year old daughter?”
Lots of stuff is OK in Alaska. Actually I don’t think it would be statutory rape in Oregon either, there’s some exemption for stupid kids.

Posted by: Bud | September 2, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm

aMom – if you meant the secession part, that’s what the news is reporting – she was at one point supporting the Alaskan Independence Party, which reportedly has as part of its platform secession from the United States.
I haven’t been to its website, so I don’t know whether that’s the case. But that’s what the news said.
Someone here added that she cut a video supporting them earlier this year. I also don’t know whether that’s true.
As I predicted, if – IF – this party really favors secession from the Union and if – IF – she supported this party in, say the last couple years, she may well be forced to withdraw from the ticket.

Posted by: Paul | September 2, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm

This is completely ridiculous. This news about the pregnancy is completely irrelevant. Her daughter is not running for office and that is all that matters. Everyone knows that no matter how strict you are with teenagers, sometimes this happens anyways. This is not a reflection of her qualifications. Anyone that is saying otherwise needs to listen to their candidate Obama who said this topic is not on the table for discussion. If you respect your candidate and your party, you should listen to him. Also, to say that she doesn’t have the necessary experience when Obama’s resume consists of community organizer and limited days in Senate is shocking! She is the only one who has executive experience and even though she has only been a governor for a short while, she has done amazing things for Alaska and has an approval rating in the 80s or 90s. She is also the most popular governor in the U.S. That is outstanding! If she did that only in two years, imagine the great things she could do for this country! It is very petty that anyone would question her abilities and would judge her based upon her daughter’s actions. As far as any other allegations, this is a smart, respectable woman that would not put herself in a position to be humiliated. I’m sure we will all see very shortly that she has complete integrity and didn’t do anything improper.

Posted by: Daniela | September 2, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm

This is completely ridiculous. This news about the pregnancy is completely irrelevant. Her daughter is not running for office and that is all that matters. Everyone knows that no matter how strict you are with teenagers, sometimes this happens anyways. This is not a reflection of her qualifications. Anyone that is saying otherwise needs to listen to their candidate Obama who said this topic is not on the table for discussion. If you respect your candidate and your party, you should listen to him. Also, to say that she doesn’t have the necessary experience when Obama’s resume consists of community organizer and limited days in Senate is shocking! She is the only one who has executive experience and even though she has only been a governor for a short while, she has done amazing things for Alaska and has an approval rating in the 80s or 90s. She is also the most popular governor in the U.S. That is outstanding! If she did that only in two years, imagine the great things she could do for this country! It is very petty that anyone would question her abilities and would judge her based upon her daughter’s actions. As far as any other allegations, this is a smart, respectable woman that would not put herself in a position to be humiliated. I’m sure we will all see very shortly that she has complete integrity and didn’t do anything improper.

Posted by: Daniela | September 2, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm

Daniela: “Everyone knows that no matter how strict you are with teenagers, sometimes this happens anyways.”
I agree. And between unwanted pregnancies and STDs that are out there, it would be good if kids used protection.
Oh, wait, Palin doesn’t support that, huh?

Posted by: Paul | September 2, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm

“I’m sure we will all see very shortly that she has complete integrity and didn’t do anything improper.”
Swiftboaters know how much that is going to matter. ..

Posted by: Bud | September 2, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm

I am tired of reading post that called Obama anti-American and tired of post calling McCain senile. I know, I should just stop reading them. But I have to comment because I do love this country. This is an important election. Can’t we look at the differences in policy instead of just making up stuff or accepting the garbage from the garbage-makers? Look at what each stands for and decide what kind of government you want. And while your are at it take a close, very close look a your representatives up for re-election. Our children and grand-children deserve the best country we can give them. Our government is only as good as the judgement of its people. If you are unhappy with what is going on, then think about how you made your decisions in the past. And encourage everyone to think and to vote.

Posted by: miller | September 2, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm

The issues are the Judgement and Temperment of McCain, not DUI’s or pregnancies.
My late father was a USAF lifer: a fighter pilot then a squadron commander a finally a base commander. He once grounded, then had transferred a friends father who had made a “low pass” on the flight line. I asked him why? He said “reckless pilots kill themselves or others.”
I think McCain must have been an awful pilot. His decision making is a low pass on all of us.

Posted by: David | September 2, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm

Well, either way, it is bad. If she is elected to be VP. How can she take care of her BABIES when she is busy to take care of the country? Then it will be unfair to her BABIES. If she takes care of here BABIES, the, how can she take care of our country? Then it is unfair to American. If she ditches her babies, then can you trust such a woman? Beside, what kind parent she is? Are we pro-teen-mother? She even cannot take care her daughter, can she takes care of the country? I think she should stay home take care of her babeis. Sad…. What kind roll model she is. So, all Amrican teenager get pregnant, it is okay, look up our VP. Isn’t that is a big burden to American as well as to the parent?

Posted by: Booka | September 2, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm

Larryman,
You are correct, I was very ashamed to have a president who had an affair with a young intern. My values do not change because someone belongs to one party or another. I think as a real converative Christian, I am deeply troubled by Gov Palin’s daughter’s situation. I am aware that many of my fellow conservatives are willing to turn a blind eye and even praise the young lady because she elected not to abort the child. That may be commendable but as a result of her actions she is now going to be an unwed teenage mother. That is not a good example for children. I also know that if the pregnant teen were the daughter of Biden or Obama, my fellow conservatives would not be so forgiving. That’s the truth. I couldn’t care less if the parents are Republicans or Democrats. It’s the principle that bothers me.

Posted by: Carol | September 2, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm

All I have to say is “Let the games..I mean…debates begin”. Wake up White America your crapping the bottom of the barrel with Mcain/Palin. To the rest of the world you look like the most pathetic lot Europe spat out.

Posted by: Ann | September 2, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm

P.S. I’m getting tired of hearing about women’s “rights”, as in Sarah Palin has a “right” to have a career argument….. even though she has a big family. I’m concerned about the kids; not about her rights to be a powerful political figure. Yes, women can work and raise a family without anyone suffering greatly and the opposite is true as well — you can be a stay at home mom and be a lousy mom. However, I do not believe you can be the President of the United States and raise a newborn with special needs, as well as 4 other children, one a teen who also now has “special needs” and do a good job at being a President, let alone a good job at being their mother. A mother’s heart will pull her towards that baby — and it should. My friend’s grandson has Down’s Syndrome. He is a little boy who has a great deal of need and so much so that his mother quit her part time job to be sure to meet his needs. He had many unanticpated health issues and has had multiple surgeries already. Being the President of the US(a possibility for Gov. Palin if McCain’s elected) or even the VP is alot different than simply having a career. What about the kids? Why does she think SHE’s so important that only SHE can be McCain’s VP pick? Lots of other people can be that. No one else can be a mom to HER teen in need, and HER baby with very special needs. Is this being pro-life? I think it’s being “Pro-Me and Pro-my Ambition”. Sorry Gov. Palin. My opinion is not against your daughter being pregnant. It’s in support of your daughter’s and other children’s need to have their mother home at least at night…. to help with homework, to kiss good night to listen to how their day was, to hold that baby … your husband plays an important role… they need both parents esp. because they have special needs. I think Gov. Palin should stick to being Gov. of Alaska — ambitious enough for someone on whom her children rely. I think Gov. Palin will regret her decision to accept the nomination to be VP. If you want to quote Bible verses, I’d be cautious on this one.

Posted by: Debbie G | September 2, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm

Booka – I’m sure the VP makes enough to afford a nanny.
Besides, McCain himself laid out the job of vice president: inquire daily about the health of the president, and attend funerals. Sounds like she would have time for the babies.
The bigger question is why McCain made such a knee-jerk pick in the first place.

Posted by: Paul | September 2, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm

Just who is calling who idiots? Because McCain chose someone with little experience?
Just who are the idiots who chose a democrat for president with so little experience?
I say un-choose Obammma, and choose Hitlery for president.
Palin/McCain 08

Posted by: LarryMan | September 2, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm

Raise taxes to build an ice hockey rink in Alaska?? Bush couldn’t find oil in Texas, Palin can’t find ice in Alaska? What is wrong with these people?

Posted by: F.D. | September 2, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm

Bud – you need an economics class refresher to better understand supply and demand. Impacts to the oil market are significant.
Discovery of the Prudhoe Bay oilfield was announced in July 1968, the largest deposit ever found in North America. Environmentalists called it a “few months’ supply.” Nine years later over 13 billion barrels of oil has flowed. Prudhoe Bay natural gas reserves are 30.9 trillion cubic feet.
Studies of the ANWR coastal plain indicates it may contain between 6 and 16 billion barrels of recoverable oil (between 11.6 and 31.5 billion barrels in-place). ANWR oil could provide an additional 30 to 50 years of reliable supply. Natural gas, produced with the oil, could be reinjected or added to a new gas pipeline originating in Prudhoe Bay.
Environmentalists are dismayed that their reality never came true. For instance, the Central Arctic caribou herd has grown from 3,000 to as high as 27,100 in the last 20 years. Drilling activity in ANWR would be limited to winter months when wildlife does not frequent the coastal plain.

Posted by: steb | September 2, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm

I don’t think it is any coincidence that there are many photos of her oldest child caring for the younger ones – non of that “grandbaby” nonesense – but what usually happens in large families when older children are around.
That is going to change when Bristol has her own child shortly, but I’m sure Mrs. Palin would do as many Washingtonians do – and hire a nanny or have her husband become the full-time caregiver.
We have many terrible parents – and some very good ones – in politics.
We do look at it more closely when its the mother not the father – which is a shame as valuing good parenting is an important measure of good character and bad fathers ought to be equally criticized as bad mothers.

Posted by: SFranz | September 2, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm

“Did you have your kids “look away” from him too?”
I wish I could have, but the Republicans wouldn’t allow it. We didn’t even have to know, let alone look away.
Posted by: Bud”
The media saturated everyone with the Clinton sex scandal to avoid covering the other less known scandals such as real estate deals in Arkansas, technology transfer to China, underhanded democratic fundraising from China, involvement in savings and loans issues, Watergate, etc.
The media successfully got most people to believe it was “just about sex” which was not the point of the investigations but was the area republicans could prove Clinton was lying. Amazing how many suspicious deaths there were around Clinton on those issues. If the same thing happened with Bush there would be a blogsphere field day.
The funny thing is that the MSM created Clinton’s legacy by hiding his shortcomings. Then they destroyed the legacy they created to shoehorn in Obama. And the same liberals that were red in the face defending Clinton in the 90s are now red faced saying how bad he was and how Obama is better. Politics is amusing for people that have a memory older than 1 week.

Posted by: Cryos | September 2, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm

All this crap about morality and religion is distracting from the real issues. Truth is the economy has suffered under every Republican administration in the last 100 years, and grown with Democratic adminstrations. http://www.globalstrategywatch.com/independent-insight/66f04d29fd0ee9454060512879a2246b
The world according to John McCain is one in which America is triumphant at home and abroad thanks to the Bush legacy, rolling to victory internationally and mastering its domestic economic problems. If daily news, like reports of the 10 French soldiers killed by a resurgent Taliban in Afghanistan and the U.S. government’s imminent nationalization of much of the American mortgage-lending industry, would seem to deny such a rosy scenario, then that only shows skeptics lack the courage that sustained McCain as a prisoner of war in Vietnam.
There you have it encapsulated, the McCain campaign for president, an irrational mélange of patriotic swagger and blindness to reality that is proving disturbingly successful with uninformed voters. How else to explain the many millions of Americans who tell pollsters they prefer a continuation of Republican rule when so many of them are losing their homes to foreclosure and the nation is devastated by out-of-control military spending?
The economy is in a downward spiral, the national debt is at an all-time high, the dollar is an international disgrace and inflation in July had the steepest rise in 27 years, driven by oil prices fivefold higher than when George W. Bush invaded the nation with the world’s second-largest petroleum reserves.
Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

Posted by: Mike Robinson | September 2, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm

John McCain has George W Bush to thank for the dismal image of the Republican Party. On his own, John McCain has damaged himself through his own doings, the latest is the flawed judgment in his VP selection. He pandered a voting block rather than put America’s interests first.

Posted by: Lou R | September 2, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm

I would like to respectufully remind Mr. Stephanppollrtrrr that Gorverness Palin leads the nations state in closest proximity to RUSSIA, therefore she is not all that ignorant of foreign policy. She can even hear them at night… while she prays for all the hungry children and peace on earth.

Posted by: GIGI | September 2, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm

jhw539 :”Palin only got a passport in 2007, Bill Clinton was a Rhodes scholar who studied abroad.”
So while Bill was studying and Oxford and not inhaling, he became a foreign policy expert? Yeah, OK.
“Arkansas has over 4 times the population of Alaska. It is generally accepted that governing trees is not too hard and, believe it or not, our entire system of government bases representation on population.”
So population is the sole measure of responsibility when governing a state? What about natural resources? They don’t count? Okay, for the sake of argument I’ll stipulate your point (even though it’s horribly simplistic). By your measurement of responsibility and effectivness, Reagan was 12 times more qualified to be President than Clinton was. See how silly?
“Alaksa has about $11 billion in revenue (they are LOVING the high price of oil) while Arkansas has about $15 billion in revenue.”
Last time I checked Bill Clinton was not the governor of Arkansas in 2008. When Clinton was governor in 1992 the Arkansas state budget was around $2 billion. I don’t know what that is when adjusted for inflation (about 2%/yr.) but it’s not $15 billion.
“In 2007 Alaska generated 263,595 barrels of oil.”
Incorrect. According to the Alaska State Budget, Alaska produced 740,000 barrels per day. The US produced 5.1 million bbl/d. So Alaska produced 15% of US domestic supply. I said 20%, I was wrong.
“If your math is a bit weak, Alaska supplied about 7% of our oil needs. Note that oil is only a portion of the nations energy needs – this completely ignores the electrical and natural gas components, which Alaska does not help provide.
Were you incorrect or just lying? Do you even know anymore?”
Thanks for the insults. I was wrong on one point by 5% and admit as much. The answer to the question as to whether or not Palin’s experience is comparable to Bill Clinton, or Obama for that matter, is an unqualified “YES”. Now please respond to my other points about MSM failing to dive deeply into Rezko, Wright, Frank Marshal Davis (Uncle Frank in Audacity of Hope), Ayers, etc.

Posted by: Woody | September 2, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

Returning to work 3 days after giving birth, ignoring the needs of a sexually active daughter, and accepting bribes from lobbyist are not the kind of standards I would be promoting if I was trying to reform my party.
Clearly, McCain is so far removed from “reality” that he can’t see dysfunction when it’s staring him in the face.
The question I would be asking is if he’s competent to make decisions about anything anymore? And why isn’t a 17 year old’s pregnancy an issue in Alaska? It certainly becomes an issue for all of us here in the lower 48.

Posted by: Connie Mae | September 2, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm

Make the correct choice. Vote Obama so he can decide which children are up to par for birth. For the rest of them we can use the Obama mallot, club them to death and give them to stem cell research.

Posted by: Cryos | September 2, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm

Let call it Princes Diaries III
If McSame/Palin get elected, the following will happen.
The daughter is pregnant. The father of the child unwilling be force to marry the daughter due to political pressure, doing the right thing, blah blah blah. Daughter and Son-In-Law in a loveless marriage. Son-In-Law will receive special privileges and opportunities for knocking up the VP daughter. MOST AMERICAN WILL WORK HARD to get special privileges and job opportunities.
Son-In-Law will get some reasonable paying Job to support the family.
A divorce may happen during next 4 years. Single Mom running around in the White House.
Palin has to choose to give Motherly Advice to daughter or do her political job.

Posted by: PrincessDiaries | September 2, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm

cryos,
you and your freakin’ mallet. I’ll bet the Palins go on a family seal-clubbing trip every year … but anyway.
Obama has the realistic notion of trying to reduce the number of abortions and teen pregnancies through education, rather than just making them illegal (and creating a dangerous black market.)

Posted by: Bud | September 2, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm

I wonder if Jo has a job? What will her boss say?

Posted by: Bruno | September 2, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm

Cryos,
What a strange interpretation of “Pro-choice”.
The law of the land is that the girl and her family can decide whether to have a child or not – and Bristol has, apparently, made her decision.
The decision of the highest court is that difficult decision is best made by families, not governments.
Bristol’s choice would likely be unchanged under Obama – or frankly under McCain.
The idea that Obama is forcing young girls to abort their pregnancies is just downright silly.

Posted by: SFranz | September 2, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm

I think McCain’s move to nominate Palin for his VP was an insult to all women who were going for Hilary Clinton. Did he really think people were just voting for Clinton because she was a woman? It’s an insult to Clinton’s political knowledge, determination and beliefs to think that any woman would be able to woo her voters to the Republican side. I know I will be voting for Obama and Biden. They “get it”. They understand how the challenges people face as a low to middle class American. I can’t see anyone running a country compassionately for its people when they can’t relate to the people’s struggle. Would you rather be counseled by someone who has faced a death of a loved one and can understand how you felt or someone who hasn’t but can just give you the same learned behavior from their training? By the way, Palin’s husband’s DUI shouldn’t even be in the press. Nor should any infidelities, drug usage, etc. Because it’s just the media trying to spin you to look at these candidates the way they want you to look at them. If everyone would actually just look at the facts and not just stubbornly follow your party we would be in a better situation.

Posted by: KrisV | September 2, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm

I would like to respectufully remind Mr. Stephanppollrtrrr that Gorverness Palin leads the nations state in closest proximity to RUSSIA, therefore she is not all that ignorant of foreign policy. She can even hear them at night… while she prays for all the hungry children and peace on earth.

Posted by: back at the real issue here | September 2, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm

KrisV,
you really don’t think McCain’s marital and extra-marital episodes are an indication of the essence of his character?

Posted by: Bud | September 2, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm

Posting this again since there appears to be Hillary voters which feel this nomination was directed at them. I don’t think it was. It is an issue of party image that the democrats and MSM have perpetuated and McCain just kicked the false image in the nuts.
Of course Hillary voters were a factor in this decision but I don’t think the primary factor. Liberals try this “republicans are racist and sexist and only want white males in office.” This was partially an image issue; a false image created by the racist, sexist left wing who sees minorities and women as pawns not equal players.
McCain countered that punch and came out swinging. You’ll see proof to the truth that republicans will support and race or gender if they agree with the person on the issues. The shallow, disingenous liberal attack will be moot.”

Posted by: Cryos | September 2, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm

It’s pretty obvious that the choice was made as a blatent pandering to Hillary supporters who cared only about seeing a woman in the white house. I also disagree with the idea that the candidates personal lives should be off limits – if male politicians affairs are made public and are usually cause for resignation, then Palin’s indiscretions (including the possible cover-up of her daughters first pregnancy??) should be throughly investigated by the press and communicated to the public. We have a right to be fully informed, and at this point, it seems that there may be more that we don’t know that could surface soon…hopefully she’ll be smart and pull out.

Posted by: Kate | September 2, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm

I find it rather annoying when people keep emphasising the Hussein in Obama’s name- because its blatantly obvious what you’re trying to insinuate- Hussein= Saddam Hussein or some other Islamic extremist. It’s sad if nowadays a Middle-Eastern sounding name immediately brings to mind a gun-toting, explosives strapped suicide bomber- for the rest of the Muslims in the world who aren’t extremists.
If you want to argue on any issue, focus on things that are actually relevant- like perhaps saying Obama isn’t experienced enough- I personally don’t buy that, but it’s an argument that is at least based on fact and not on underhanded fear-mongering.
On the issue of say, McCain/Palin having more international experience, experience may count, but as to whether it really translates into making better choices, I’m not convinced by McCain. McCain may be older than Obama, but I don’t see much logic in making tax cuts for the upper-income permanent when the economy and country is running on a huge deficit because of the spending in Iraq. It’s only going to be a vicious cycle. It’s a mistaken assumption that one can wage a “cheap” war- throughout history, taxes have been raised during the world wars, the korean and vietnam wars-except for Iraq. That’s the only way to pay for them without our economy suffering in the long run from the massive deficit. It may hurt a little now, but it’ll stop the deficit from snowballing.
I’m not American, but I’ve been following this election closely-as have many people from around the world. The fact is the US has a great impact on the rest of the world, which is why we are so interested in seeing who’s the next president going to be. Obama seems to be a fresh face, and I’ll admit his being of mixed-blood alone made him an exciting candidate- not to say I did not take his policies into consideration. Even if the surname “Hussein” sounds too uncomfortably associated with terrorists to some of you, look at it this way. These terrorist groups proliferate from painting a picture of an enemy, an enemy that has absolutely nothing in common with them, that is completely at odds with their ideals- and this won’t work as well anymore if the “enemy” appears to hold some similarities with them-and is willing to talk to them-as with Iran- instead of taking a confrontational approach.

Posted by: A thought | September 2, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm

This was a great move by McCain…pick a VP that is female and won’t make it through the media so that you can then pick your real VP after Palin backs out.
Still get the female vote by saying you wanted a strong female in office.
Republicans could sell ice cubes to Eskimos and winter clothes to Central Americans.

Posted by: Toby | September 2, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm

“Cryos,
What a strange interpretation of “Pro-choice”.
Not an interpretation of pro-choice. I’m politically pro-choice although personally pro-life.
It is an interpretation of Obama’s explicit support for killing babies that live from partial birth abortion. Where should we draw the line. Maybe if the baby is premature and the mother decides before the 9 month time she doesn’t want to keep the baby maybe she can terminate it then too.
Most of the rational, logical posts I put in here get ignored since liberals don’t have an answer (maybe an ideal but not a rational answer) so I throw in some things to liven it up and get responses.

Posted by: Cryos | September 2, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm

I wasn’t aware I was supposed to be asking these three questions about Gov. Palin! How foolish of me. Here I was asking myself how she and Sen. McCain planned to implement a comprehensive energy plan, revive the economy, and weed out corruption on the Potomac. Maybe I should have asked myself if she cut in the lunch-line in middle school. But what do I know, I’m no fancy inside-the-beltway political pundit. I’m just an average, flag-waving, tax-paying, red-blooded American. And with Palin on the ticket, I am now 100% behind McCain’s campaign. Bring on November!

Posted by: AmericanPatriot | September 2, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm

Kate,
I’m sorry, do male politicians actual resign when caught having an affair? I guess I forgt that Bill Clinton resigned after being caught with Monica. Thanks for the history lesson.
Mark

Posted by: Mark | September 2, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm

Dysfunction? How does one describe the dysfunctional family in Today’s society in America? Palin simply faces the same day to day struggles that all of us do as parents of teens and pre-teens.Maybe its time that we have a “real” person at the executive level versus a politician that is not in touch with reality.If we look hard enough at all the candidates,there are plenty of skeletons in the closet.

Posted by: Ginny | September 2, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm

Dear American Patriot,
That’s why I would like to respectufully remind Mr. Stephanppollrtrrr that Gorverness Palin leads the nations state in closest proximity to RUSSIA, therefore she is not all that ignorant of foreign policy. She can even hear them at night… while she prays for all the hungry children and peace on earth.

Posted by: ihavemoreforeignexperiencethanher | September 2, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm

Democrats are so two faced. You might as well admit that the kook fringe has taken over the Party and (As Elizabeth Edwards does) post briefings on the Daily Kos.
Let’s see:
It’s okay to have Felons; Racists; Terrorists; and Anti-Semites for friends… But a woman with a Down’s Syndrome Child and Pregnant Daughter is a Problem?
Get a Life…

Posted by: Eddie | September 2, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm

What part of “hazard to others” don’t you understand when you equate drug-alcohol ingestion with drunk driving. People are not maimed and killed if they used a designated driver.

Posted by: MADD Mom | September 2, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm

My prediction – if she supported a fringe party that advocates Alaskan secession from the Union as recently as the last couple years, she will be forced to withdraw from the ticket.
EXACTLY!! Forget the teen pregnancy issue, although it is sad that this was brought out for the public to view. Palin is not qualified to be VP; McCain did not have her vetted properly.

Posted by: Kariann | September 2, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm

Cindy McCain and VP Sarah Palin can go shopping for high-end good on tax payers money. McLame choose Sarah Palin because Cindy going to be lonely in the White House. Cindy is away from all 5 homes, oops 7 homes, opps 8 homes, oops was 10 homes.
Cindy and Palin does need to decorate the White House. The dynamic Duo can visit other head of state spouses and help with the decorations. Gucci and Coach Purchase for all wives of Head of States. Any spouse of Head of States are men, too bad! You left out!
If though I am voting for Obama, there are thousands of more qualify women in the US that meet Republican Conservative Standards.

Posted by: PrincessDiaries | September 2, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm

I was planning to vote for McCain but I am not happy with his choice for vice president. I may vote for Obama after all. I really don’t want to vote for a Democrat though. Can someone else please run as an Independent? I almost wish Hillary was still in this race.

Posted by: a mom | September 2, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm

Palin strikes me as unloyal; first she abandons Ted Stevens as soon as the tide turns on him, then she sacrifices her daughter’s privacy to deflect rumors that her youngest child really is her grandchild. I am a Republican, and unless the Party can do better than this, it doesn’t get my vote.

Posted by: Dr. Dutch Evil | September 2, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm

All of the interviews I’ve seen of republicans defending Palin convince me that they all are sticking to the script. They have no real confidence or convictions about this woman whom they themselves no nothing about!!!
They are trusting McCain’s vetting process will hold when surprise after surprise keep coming out of the closet.
The latest: Reports indicate that new damaging evidence is piling up against Palin on the trooper investigation!!
Let’s not forget the hypocracy of republicans seeming to not be upset or even disappointed with Palin’s teen daughter being pregnant. Their biggest argument as republicans is that they stand for conservative family values.
First McCain made an issue about experience, then picked someone with so little. Palin preaches abstinance and no sex ed. talk and defends her teen pregnant daughter.
This is a plot to get McCain in office so that Palin will run against Hillary in 2012. By then McCain will be too old.

Posted by: Charlie | September 2, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm

“this won’t work as well anymore if the “enemy” appears to hold some similarities with them-and is willing to talk to them-as with Iran- instead of taking a confrontational approach.”
No offense but this makes you completely naive. If you look at history or even at modern times you can see that most negotiations are hot air. WWII is a prime example I’ll offer a couple modern ones.
Iran isn’t “willing to talk about it” they are not negotiating AT ALL and are using the talks as a stall tactic and to prevent justification for taking out their nuclear facilities with military. We’ve offered them incentive after incentive then act mad when they live up to their promise of “no compromise and continuing uranium enrichment.”
The EU and Russia situation is another example of “negotiations.” Putin lied to Sarkozy and the EU by signing a peace treaty and continuing to destroy Georgian infrastructure. And the EU is doing nothing as a consequence because Russia supplies their energy.
Leaders like Putin and Ahmadinejad know that people like Obama and Sarkozy are weak minded, weak willed and can be manipulated into any situation as long as it looks good to their voters back home.

Posted by: Cryos | September 2, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm

not sure why Stepphie Stephanopoulos is asking these strange questions considering he was fired from the Clinton Whitehouse which is pretty hard to do unless you’re a complete moron…Nevertheless, I guess the question should be why did the republicans choose a brilliant and beautiful running mate for VP when the demoncrats chose someone less experienced than her FOR THE TOP JOB?

Posted by: keef1234 | September 2, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm

The pot calling the kettle black!
“…has almost no national security experience and who is so much of an unknown quantity.” Can you say OBAMA

Posted by: CMK | September 2, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

The irony is that you are all whining that she doesn’t have any experience and wasn’t properly vetted yet Obama is nothing more than a community activist turned junior senator and has had scandal after scandal. He has LESS experience than Palin and more scandal. Dems are as blind to it as they are seeing the faults in Palin.

Posted by: Ivan Ivanovich | September 2, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

Compared to Obama’s pick of VP McCain did an outstanding job. How can Obama pick a person who recently had this to say about minorities “”I’ve had a great relationship [with East Indians in America]. In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian Americans – moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-11 or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I’m not joking.” — Joe Biden, speaking to Indian-Americans.
What was Obama thinking?

Posted by: Kevin | September 2, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm

If this is the level of sound judgment we can expect from a McCain administration we better all plan on voting for Obama. How can anyone be thoroughly vetted in one day? McCain’s play for the female vote by putting a woman on the ticket is sooooooo obvious and a slap in the face to thinking American women voters! He should be ashamed of this “publicity stunt” at the expense of the country!

Posted by: Cheryl S | September 2, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm

we now found out that Lieberman was the actual choice of McShame until 10 days ago but he did not want to bother the republicans. SO MUCH OF A MAVERICK!!!!!!

Posted by: vs | September 2, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm

I am proud of the fact that we have a woman running for vicepresident. I believe in a fair chance for a Mom. I also believe in the importance of giving babies the chance to have love and all the support they need. That is why I think Sarah Palin should stay at hand to her 5 month old baby that has with special needs, and not in office. As far as she would have been a male, I also think the same. That baby needs the parents at home not at the “front”. The vicepresidency it’s not running the budget for Alaska, is way more responsability. Go home to your baby, he needs you since the moment you decided to have him so proudly.

Posted by: Lucia Lorenzo Kohn | September 2, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm

If Obama remains “unknown” to you, maybe you need to make just a little effort.
http://www.barackobama.com

Posted by: Bud | September 2, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm

I am Pro-Choice and personally Pro-Life and yes it is possible to be both. What bothers me about Palin is that she is ANTI-CHOICE yet in explaining her newborn with Downs Syndrome, it is described that she and her husband CHOSE to have him after having found out about his disablities. And then that “she is proud of her daughter’s DECISION to keep her unborn baby.” Both of these statements infer a choice. If she does not believe in a woman’s right to choose, then these statements should not be made. There should be no applause for either instance.

Posted by: Jaydub | September 2, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm

why is it so hard for people to believe that mccain knew about the pregnancy, but chose her anyway? Why should her daughter’s pregnancy have any bearing on her politics and candidacy?

Posted by: john | September 2, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm

Isn’t it amazing that the many elitist Democrats would fight for the rights of teens to have sex and have all the “protection” they want…and even more important, have abortions as the ultimate birth control, BUT it is so horrible that a teen is pregnant and intends to keep her child? And why is this a big black mark for the mother of the teen? Hypocrites and elitists are making a big issue of this but would rather ignore all moral failures on the other side of the political fence, and there are many.

Posted by: Lois | September 2, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm

I love this comment:
“I wasn’t aware I was supposed to be asking these three questions about Gov. Palin! How foolish of me. Here I was asking myself how she and Sen. McCain planned to implement a comprehensive energy plan, revive the economy, and weed out corruption on the Potomac. Maybe I should have asked myself if she cut in the lunch-line in middle school. But what do I know, I’m no fancy inside-the-beltway political pundit. I’m just an average, flag-waving, tax-paying, red-blooded American. And with Palin on the ticket, I am now 100% behind McCain’s campaign. Bring on November!”
Seriously people, stick to the issues. You know what I think the news actually means, that people will actually see her as a REAL AMERICAN with REAL ADVERSITIES just like everyone else. Honestly, idont see how anyone can say she is any less experienced than Obama. No arguement there, but for those who challenge this, namely Obama people, you must remember that she is VP not president like Obama.
I am currently a registered Dem but just until they count my vote as one they lost. When you take away all the smoke and mirrors, I want confident people who do not waiver and flip and flop all over the place the please others in their party. Believe it or not, I DO THINK McCain and Palin would do a better damn job than Obama/Biden anyday. That Dem camp has too many “bignames” to answer to. Thanks, but no thanks. Either way, the dems have LOST my vote this election year.

Posted by: MHaylock | September 2, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm

One step closer to voting McCain in November. Of course lets be honest. I have been a registered Republican for years now. I haven’t really felt drawn to one or the other when it comes to the canidates, as I have felt that both are poor choices. However the more I do my own research, and the more Obama supporters keep running their mouths I am going to be voting McCain/Palin in November. I am a person who has made mistakes in my life. I know that my parents taught me to live a certain way, and being an American teenager I often chose to do my own thing. That doesn’t make my parents bad parents. That doesn’t mean that they are liars because they taught me something and I went against it. It is part of growing up. A lot of people learn by mistakes. I know I do.
Now I will not say that Obama should not be entitled to the same respect that Republicans are requiring for Palin. I believe in forgiveness. If I didn’t I would be screwed. How ever I have learned by taking the time to do a little bit of research I can often come to my own conclusion about something. I do not want to vote or not vote for someone because of something that an outside source is saying. If you want to know what a Catholic believes don’t ask a Jew. Go to the source. To be honest one more time… most of you aren’t smart enough to do that.

Posted by: close | September 2, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm

Poor liberals. Their attack strategy had changed into class warfare and sexism/racism with the “McCain is too rich and Obama is more of a regular person.”
Then they are forced to change their strategy the next week to “Palin is too much of a regular person and should be taking care of her kids.”
Wow I would like to see the reaction if it was republicans saying that a female democratic candidate should stay at home and take care of her kids not run for office. I could see the feminist picket lines from here. Hyprocrisy at its finest.

Posted by: Cryos | September 2, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm

Oh my god!! I guess I’m naive but I really didn’t think people could hate so much. I find it somewhat puzzling to understand why so many want to run the Republican party and they are mad, no furious, when their direction is not heeded. I happen to think we have a good slate of candidtates on both sides and I am not the least worried of who gets the nod. We all lived through Carter, Clinton and the two Bushes—relax.

Posted by: FREDJ | September 2, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm

The sexism here is blatant and discusting. Ladies you need to listen up because MSM and the paranoid Obamites are trying to tell women that can’t be in roles of leadership. They need to go home and take care of the kids. The MSM have the gall to focus there questions about her leadership because her daughter had a unplanned pregnancy – not Palin – but they ignored the facts Biden and lying about his college credentials and the plagerism scandals, not to mention how much they tried to sweep the REV Wright scandal under the rug.

Posted by: Cole | September 2, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm

I like sarah, if she was a pro-choice democrat that baby would have been aborted months ago- she talks the talk and walks the walk
as for excutive experience- even Obama is now trying to claime he has more
“Well, my understanding is that Governor Palin’s town of Wasilla has, I think, 50 employees. We’ve got 2,500 in this campaign. I think their budget is maybe $12 million a year. You know, we have a budget of about three times that just for the month. So I think that our ability to manage large systems and to execute I think has been made clear over the last couple of years,” Obama said.
Sarah is already proving her worth,
she runs a state bigger than most countries , with a 10 Billion dollar budget and 24,000 employees, but unfortuately one badly behaved state trooper who happens to be her ex-brother in law

Posted by: oregonian | September 2, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm

I think McCain’s choice was great. I am willing to help with the campaign for the first time. She is bright, gutsy, and willing to take on the norm. Aren’t we all sick of the norm in Washington. Leave her husband alone for a DUI 20+ years old. It wasn’t even HER, as I remember Obama HIMSELF did drugs. So she has kids, so does Obama! Don’t tell me the liberals think women should sit home and raise the kids now!
She is tuff, she will stand up to the Good Ole Boys, and that is what we need. My husband and I work hard to make ove $150K a year, now Obama says I am rich and will raise my taxes! Maybe we should sit home on our butts and get national medical care, and pay lower taxes!

Posted by: Conservative Mom | September 2, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm

I certainly want McCain and Palin to get elected…so does Osama bin laden and so does Vladimir Putin! McCain will get us into war #3, war #4, and war#5.

Posted by: garysgary | September 2, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm

I am excited about Mr. McCain’s pick in Sarah Palin. Sorry liberals, this so called scandall is not going to deter my vote by any streach. I was reluctantly going to vote for McCain anyway, but now I’m excited! If this makes me unpopular on this liberal thread, GREAT! I don’t belive for one second that anyone on this thread who says this pick will deter them was planning to vote Republican in the first place! The thing is, there are SO MANY who belive the same way as me. That’s what this tantrum by the liberal left is all about..They are afraid! Go ahead deny it. We aren’t buying.

Posted by: THINK | September 2, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm

There you go, a closed mind is an empty mind.
It’s true, we are afraid. Afraid of what would happen to this country if redneck mama becomes the president.

Posted by: Bud | September 2, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

Bud:
That is such a great comeback…You got nuthin better than that?

Posted by: THINK | September 2, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm

Typical liberal: just hurl insults, without thought

Posted by: THINK | September 2, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm

Have you ever known a “red-neck mama”? They are cool! Bud maybe your hippy mama could learn a thing or two from Palin!

Posted by: Hell Yes! | September 2, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

Was that an insult without thought?

Posted by: Hell No! | September 2, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm

I am not too sure the DUI offense for Todd Palin 20+ years ago is a relevant question, although it is an interesting piece for the family portrait (some would dismiss it as very average, very American, life happens) and from all I hear in Alaska one needs to qualify it with whether the person was driving a vehicle or an airplane.
But all the other questions are relevant and needed because there is so precious little for the public to vet this woman on and there is so little time to do so, especially since she has the highest probability of succeeding a president than anyone before. Any question that gets at this woman’s moral character (her single asset that brought McCain to choose her), judgment, integrity and experience is fair game, and I hope every single thing comes out. Perhaps for the first time in the history of presidential politics, we the public will have to decide matters on the principle of “Where there’s smoke, there’s fire.”
More important than the public’s Palin is what these things will tell us about McCain himself. In his first decision as a national (versus Arizonan) public official, I am not impressed at all, and I certainly do not want to have to wake up each morning wondering what the guy did the night before if he gets elected.

Posted by: ETM | September 2, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm

Lol between the protacted primary and McCains VP pick the real attitudes behind the fake, empty facade of the democratic party’s image is beginning to show. The MSM is trying to do their best to cover it up but their blatent bias is being noticed while trying to do so.

Posted by: Cryos | September 2, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm

You know what I think, I think Bamabots better get used to the idea of LOSING in Novemeber. You know what th4y say, the only bad publicity is NO publicity at all.
Obama is going to lose in Novemeber and they can thank their unwillingness to LISTEN to 18 million people when we spoke.

Posted by: MHaylock | September 2, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm

AND IF YOU DONT THINK HE WILL LOSE, THEN BETTER THINK AGAIN. I AM REALLY DAMN GOOD AT CALLING THESE ELECTIONS AND HAVE DONE SO FOR THE LAST 3. STRANGE FEELING IT IS, BUT REALLY ON POINT. ITS ALMOST TOO OBVIOUS.

Posted by: MHAYLOCK | September 2, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm

Wow, her husband had a DUI over 20 years ago. What a scandal!!! Her daughter had sex, how outrageous!
Watergate was a scandal. Iran/Contra was a scandal. Chapaquitic was a scandal. The circumstances surounding the death of Vince Foster’s death should have created one. Gun wiped clean, gun not in his hand etc…
But this crap? A prego daughter and a 20 year old DUI are not scandals. The fact that democrats think that they are scandals along with the internet rumor that Trig was not Sarah’s baby is very indicative of just how afraid the democrats are of Sarah Palin. $10 Million in two days. Go Sarah!!!!!

Posted by: Mark | September 2, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm

Everybody is assuming that McCain had more than one choice for VP. Could it be that he went all the way down the list until he found someone that would take the position? I wouldn’t take it with a less than 45% chance of winning. Would you?

Posted by: Pete | September 2, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm

One of the worst parts of this mess is Sarah Palin choosing to drag her daughter through the firestorm of media attention. She knows what it’s like out there as a candidate. Her daughter’s picture is now plastered on every front page in the world. Palin is a very selfish, hypocritical woman.
However, maybe there is a silver lining for McCain AFTER ALL; perhaps his right- wing fundamentalist buddies will somehow turn it into the first Republican Virgin Birth. They are truly annointed by GOD….

Posted by: cha cha | September 2, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm

Never mind asking Obama these questions, George. You should be asking McCain.

Posted by: Laura Rubenis | September 2, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm

I think it’s sad that a child is going to have a child. Her life is ruined. She is being forced to grow up way too soon. I don’t understand why they didn’t use protection especially in this day and age with Aids. That is the responsible thing to do. Were they not taught that. And if they weren’t shame on their parents.

Posted by: concerned parent | September 2, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm

Besides the hyprocrisy, it makes me sick to listen to neo-cons dance around the issues. Day after day, I listen to McCain and various rightwing mouth pieces fail to answer questions or for the matter, stay on topic.
1.) To assume women vote based on gender is sexist.
2.) I am waiting for the Republican Party’s platform change with respect to affirmative action. (Who are they kidding to suggest Palin is the most qualified Republican?) (Moreover, lame attempts to NOT note and confront their hypocrisy by trying to shift the focus on the Democrats is CLASSIC REPUBLICAN
3.) Palin may be a mother and that’s great, but is she the most qualified person for the job (on the Republican side that is)? (DO NOT slip into she has more executive experience than Obama, Biden or McCain or I HOPE YOU ARE will to put Palin at the TOP of the ticket!) If being a senator is worthless, then toss McCain out of the race.
4.)I respectfully DISAGREE with Obama when it come to Bristol. Her pregnancy has been MADE an issue by the REPUBLICAN ideology. Palin had a choice to be tested and later decided to have Trig. (She did not have OTHER people make that choice for her.) (Palin’s daughter apparently is deciding to have her baby.) (Pro-Choice is about being able to have a CHOICE and not having the government control one’s body.) Instead of worrying about everyone else getting to heaven and playing on religion to get elected, maybe the Republicans need to focus on repairing their sense of morality.

Posted by: David | September 2, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm

“Let me be as clear as possible … I think people’s families are off-limits and people’s children are especially off-limits,” said Senator Obama. (stated speaking in Michigan)
Funny how their own canidate feels this way, but most democrats do not show the respect people deserve.
Obama thanks for being respectful. You deserve the same! I think that is very big of you to be this way.
I support McCain’s choice of Palin!

Posted by: South West | September 2, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm

Dear John and Sarah:
The heavier the flak, the closer you are to the target. We’ll see you getting sworn in in January, and we know the Bible won’t burn your hand.
McCain/Palin08, Palin/Jindal 2012 and 2016.

Posted by: spincut | September 2, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm

Cha Cha,
It’s already been announced that she will be getting married to the father soon. No Virin Birth, but it was a nice thought.
As the daughter of the governor of Alaska, Bristol would have been all over the Alaskan newpapers anyway.
Jamie Lynn Spears has gets pregnant and the world can’t wait to ooh and ahhh at the pics of the little bastard.
Bristol Palin gets pregnant and Democrats think her mom should pull out of the race. Wishful thinking on the part of democracts. If you truly thought she was bad for the republican ticket, you’d want her to stay in the race. Love the logic by democrats. She’s going to kill McCain’s chances, she needs to pull out. Thanks for looking out for our candidate.

Posted by: mark | September 2, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm

McCAIN SHOULD HAVE STUCK WITH HIS FIRST CHOICE FOR VICE PRESIDENT … “MADONNA”

Posted by: jamesearlc | September 2, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm

It figures that many of you are casting stones, thats what the do nothings of this world do best.
Is Ms Palin the only one in government who is becoming a grandmother?
Is Ms Palin the only one in government whose teen is becoming a parent?
One could name many high profile politicians whose children have placed others in grave danger or even caused bodily hard to others, having a child is a blessing.
This is so comical reading your rants when you have overlooked so many because they are on “your side”

Posted by: Babs | September 2, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm

As a woman that was supportive of Hilary, does McCain really think that the average “Hilary Supporter” is so stupid that they will vote for him because he chose a woman as his VP?
Those that supported Hilary did not do so just because she is a woman – it’s what she stood/stands for!
Equal rights for qomen and minorities, the right for a woman to choose how to live her life and when to have a child. That includes the right to birth control and sex education, as well as the right to chose to have an abortion, no matter what the reason.
Women who supported Hilary will NOT flock to McCain’s camp because of Palin – if anything, he has just driven them off even more – Palin is everything that Hilary is not – she is a fool, and I for one don’t want her any where near the White House – what happens when McCain has a heart attack and dies in office and leaves her in charge? Think about her running our country…she can’t even run her own family!

Posted by: Ay | September 2, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm

Yes we will.

Posted by: MHAYLOCK | September 2, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm

LEVI JOHNSTON’S STATEMENT ON HIS PERSONAL MYSPACE TODAY: “I’m a f***in’ redneck,” he wrote. “I live to play hockey … I’ll kick ass.” Somewhat more troubling for 17-year-old Bristol Palin is the following: “I don’t want kids.”
HAHA Wait till this comes clearly out REPUBS!!!!!

Posted by: LOL | September 2, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm

Ay,
Are you going to say that in your family immediate or not that you have never had a problem? If you do say that you are lying. Everyone on this earth has problems of some kind at home. Shame on you for ridiculing another persons problems. I hope you can continue to live your problem free life.

Posted by: asdf | September 2, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm

This Jerry Springer Nation of ours is just too funny–you can’t make this stuff up—McCain you just gave obama the biggest gift you could–CYA Loser–and here come the taxes with bama!!!

Posted by: tom tom | September 2, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm

PALIN IS CERTAINLY NO COMPARISON TO HILLARY …SHE WON’T SURVIVE THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER

Posted by: jamesearlc | September 2, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm

Was Mcbush thinking back to Churhill,
who said He would make a pact with the Devil himself to beat the Nazi horde?
Mcbush has fouled up big time.

Posted by: edward magee | September 2, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm

Palin caught on Jerry Springer punching her alcoholic strumpet of a daughter—no kidding check you tube……. June 2007

Posted by: tom tom | September 2, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm

Mcbush is ready for a 3:00 am phone call,
he mostly likely is up anyway.

Posted by: edward magee | September 2, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm

Mcbush is ready for a 3:00 am phone call,
he mostly likely is up anyway.

Posted by: edward magee | September 2, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm

GREAT EXECUTIVE DECISION MAKING EXPERIENCE …”ADVISE YOUR 17 YEAR OLD PREGNANT DAUGHTER TO MARRY THE HOCKY PLAYER WHO DOESN’T WANT KIDS ON JERRY SPIRNGER SHOW …

Posted by: jamesearlc | September 2, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm

I thank Gov. Palin for educating us about Alaska and how they are milking the American taxpayer for federal welfare.
I thought Appalachia was in south. I guess I was wrong.

Posted by: NH-resident | September 2, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm

It’s clear that Democrats want women to have a career and families, just not Palin. They want women to have a choice about pregancy, as long as you choose abortion (I too am pro-choice but personally I am pro-life). Democrats want experience, as long as it’s in your vice presendial candidate, not your presidential candidate. Democrats want new blood in the White House, but not a Republican’s. Democrats want energy independence as long as it can be achieved without disturbing a single blade of grass. Democrats want economic prosperity for all, so if you don’t want to work hard we’ll just tax those that do so you can enjoy the benefits of their hard work. Democrats want world peace, unless that peace requires standing for a cause. The Democrats want a history-making candidate in the White House, unless it’s a woman on the Republican ticket. The Democrats want health care for everyone, and if you choose a lifestyle that puts tatoos, drugs, movies, designer clothes, new cars, and jewelry ahead of providing food and health care for your family, then we’ll just tax people more so they can provide it for you without disturbing your lifestyle. Same goes for retirement planning and education. Democrats want God out of the schools but want kids to learn about Islam and Kwanza (how about a Humanities class that teaches about the major religions around the world, including Christianity, an economics class is also needed, and world history). The Democrats want to negotiate, just not with Republicans as demonstrated through the dismal performance of this Congress (they have a 12% vs Bush’s 31% approval rating). Democrats want to overlook associations and actions in one’s past like a life long relationship with a minister that spews racial hatred, unless it’s Palin’s association with FFL or AIP. Intersting times indeed.

Posted by: steb | September 2, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm

Okay, they want no one too discuss that Bristol is pregnat. Let’s talk about trig and the fact that Gov. Palin never appeared to be with child until when? I and every female knows that each time you have a child, there’s a reminder we carry physically from that child. Another thing, Trig is not even 6 mos old yet! She returned to work 3 days after the birth of her child. I viewed the photos and concurr that it wasn’t Gov. Palin that was with child. So, maybe she had a serrogate mother to carry Trig for her. Just a thought! Yeah right!!!!

Posted by: Ranger01 | September 2, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm

mark: “Bristol Palin gets pregnant and Democrats think her mom should pull out of the race.”
No, they think that she is not qualified to be pushing abstinence-only sex education as the one and only best way to raise our nation’s children. There’s a subtle difference there, see if you can find it.

Posted by: jhw539 | September 2, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm

I have always been tired of the GOP using Religion and God to sway voters….it should simply be about the critical issues and the best leaders to build concensus and implement necessary change to help ALL Americans, not just the faithful. I thought it was hypocritical that Gov. Palin had her poor 17year old daughter holding the 4-month baby with a blanket covering her belly…if she was sooo proud, why were they hiding this? This is so obviously a tactic and it insults educated women like me who can see right thru this risky move. I wonder how the GOP and the media would react if it was a political family that happeed to be Hispanic or black? Would we see it as simply a “common mistake”?! or, would we call it another example of the lack of American values and a baby out of wedlock?!?
Clearly there is a double standard and hypocrisy…Again, it should be about the best candidates and focus on issues.

Posted by: mo | September 2, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm

Bush has his soul mate, Putin so I guess McCain had to have one too.
Maybe the grand baby was calculated to be a good smoke screen to hide Sarah’s own little path of corruption. She kept the bridge money by the way.
In 2002 Todd was fined for snowmobiling in protected wilderness. She supports the air wolf hunt, is against protecting polar bears and doesn’t believe in global warning.

Posted by: Judy M | September 2, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm

You don’t see what’s going on. He wants to ditch her and pick a pro-choice candidate once the screams get too loud.

Posted by: texasbob | September 2, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm

Woody: I am working off of contemporary budget data for Alaska and Arkansas that is publically available. Perhaps they did differ radically in 1992.
And I can’t keep up with your non-standard definition of what “oversaw 20% of the nations energy supply” actually means, nor why your numbers don’t line up with the official http://www.eia.doe.gov numbers (and I’m not sure you’re even aware you’re switching units, but I left off the x1000 modifier so I won’t harp too much on that).
Regardless, your appeal to facts that cannot be checked and very nebulous definitions doesn’t really interest me in further debate.

Posted by: jhw539 | September 2, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm

No matter who McCain chose, it would upset someone. And I really don’t care if the Dem’s don’t like the choice. She isn’t on your ticket! You’re still peeved that Hillary IS NOT! You guys whined about the 2000 and 2004 elections and you whined about your own stinking primary results. You gave better seats to the “banished” deligates then you did to the folks from Utah. The Repubs punished the states that had their primary early and they are sticking to it. How come no one mentions that Biden got caught plagierizing? Farewell to the Clinton Dynasty! May all it’s dress stains, “I didn’t inhale”, “it depends on what your definition of is is”, the trashing of the White House upon departure and other embarassing Mementoes continually remind us that we dont’ want anymore of that.

Posted by: Ke | September 2, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm

HAHAHHAHAH global warming – riddle me this batman…where did Lake George and the Great Lakes in NYS come from? How about the Rocky Mountains and the Adirondacks? How about the Grand Canyon? Some of the best vinyards used to be in Greenland and England. Climate change is not man made. It comes from volcano’s, erosion, and land shifts since I’m sure you think all these came about from SUVs. I thought Dems believed in evolution and change.

Posted by: normal | September 2, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm

HAHAHHAHAH global warming – riddle me this batman…where did Lake George and the Great Lakes in NYS come from? How about the Rocky Mountains and the Adirondacks? How about the Grand Canyon? Some of the best vinyards used to be in Greenland and England. Climate change is not man made. It comes from volcano’s, erosion, and land shifts since I’m sure you think all these came about from SUVs. I thought Dems believed in evolution and change.

Posted by: normal | September 2, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm

McCain people often comment that those who write posts which are critical of Palin must be scared. Well I for one am. This cynical and politically calculated pick has put McCain first and country second. This woman cannot stand in for president – nobody knows her, she hasn’t been fully vetted, she holds radical views (creationism in schools, global warming is a hoax, Alaskan independence, anti-choice), she is under an ethics investigation, and she needs to cite her proximity to another country as foreign policy experience. If by some slim margin of chance McCain makes it into the white house only to die or be incapacitated a sports-caster, PTA, beauty queen of a half term governor becomes the leader of the free world; yes, I’m scared and you should be too. This is madness.

Posted by: Scared | September 2, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm

She didn’t have a passport until 2007????!!!!!! The woman is not prepared to be President and Commander in Chief by January. This McCain pick boggles the mind. I don’t get it. McCain has handed Obama the election because even I might now hold my nose and vote Democrat. McCain,Biden and Obama (in that order) would make decent presidents. But Palin??!! What a bizarre choice as VP (and thus president in waiting).

Posted by: Karen | September 2, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm

She must have put a tingle in the old guy’s dingle.
Poor McCain, got caught thinking with the wrong head!

Posted by: Bill in NC | September 2, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm

The most important question, is why McCain wasn’t able to stand up and insist that he chose his own running mate. McCain wanted Joe Lieberman or Tom Ridge. He caved in to the extreme religious right and picked an ultra conservative woman because he was convinced they would put a messy battle on the floor of the convention and/or not come out and vote for him. He has sent a message to the American people that he is not his own man. McCain is no maverick, he is a gelded old horse who will allow the relgious right to take the reigns of the white house. His candidacy will not be one of reforming corruption, it will be a religious reformation.

Posted by: Madeleine | September 2, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm

Soon there will be a gunshot wedding. Now Gunshot VP. Why are republicans forcing Palin to run. She said, she does not know the job of the VP. Republicans are lunatics.

Posted by: ROME | September 2, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm

Palin was a fantastic choice. It showed us just the kind of decision maker McCain is. I believe it is very similar to the fine judgement shown durin our most recent crusade into Iraq. Jump in with both feet on limited or bad information. Not change, more of the same. Heck, I’m even considered a conservative by most. Where are the real conservatives? They are the smart ones not these pretenders that the GOP has been serving up. Barr? Perhaps.

Posted by: zippy20082012 | September 2, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm

Wow, it’s amazing that people still don’t know Obama. I guess if they took their thumbs out of their ears and quit humming they’d know all about him. Or are they just mad that their trumped up ‘but he knew so and so when he was eight’ sort of stories have already been examined and discarded as what they are: nonsense.

Posted by: Who are you? | September 2, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm

McCain’s shoot from the hip selection of Palin is just one more example of his unsuitability for the job of commander in chief of any country much less the United States of America.
I’m sure that none of his advisors advised him to selection this young lady.
It’s not one thing, its everything that is wrong with this choice. And I fear we’ve not heard the last or the worst.
This is one former lifetime Republican voter that will cast his vote for and support Obama and Biden – we can’t risk a wild man in the oval office.

Posted by: 2dmills | September 2, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm

I tried being a Democrat once, when Gary Hart ran, I just couldn’t muster enough hate and anger to sustain it afterwards. Life to short to be smug and mean all the time…
It’s just easier being an independent or a Republican. I couldn’t imagine feeling good about running Bristol Palin’s life in the ground. Good luck with all your hate and anger issues…

Posted by: A ME reader | September 2, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm

I must say that Obama looked a little smarmy last night when interviewed. He knows it is in the bag unless Rev. Wright comes out of his cave on the day before the election. GOP should have not allowed McCain and Huckabee team up on Romney. He would have won this thing. So sad, so sad. Maybe the GOP will go to apportionment in the next primary so someone like McCain won’t be able to win the election so early. He only had about 4 mos. to make this bad decision. Still only talked to her twice. I seen kids get more scrutiny for a job at McDonalds.

Posted by: zippy20082012 | September 2, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm

I think this whole process is really stupid. If you read these blogs it’s like the country is split in 2(dem or rep). I think we should take party affiliation out of the equation and look at what is right in front of our eyes. John McCain is a dangerous pick. He proved that with his VP pick. There was no vetting done this is obvious. If his very first decision was made so poorly and with an agenda what will happen when he has to make a decision on war? We all will be in trouble.

Posted by: timeForChange | September 2, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm

I just can’t get enough of the Sarah debacle.

Posted by: Scot | September 2, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm

Geevill you are wrong. Between the ages of 2 and 6, Obama lived with his mother in Kansas.

Posted by: Jinx | September 2, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm

Mrs. Palin would be well advised to reconsider and decline the nomination. Personal reasons…and she seems to have plenty. It’s still not too late and I am sure they can spin it.
This would give McCain a second chance to get it right. Without Palin stepping aside, McCain will never win the election.

Posted by: Rudy | September 2, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm

Posted by: Eddie | September 2, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm

Don’t want Palin answering the phone at 3:00 a.m. if, God forbid, McCain was president and if, God forbid, McCain then had a tragic age-related health problem and died in office. Experience in WASHINGTON is what is important, not in Alaska.

Posted by: Sallie | September 2, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm

no bump for obama coming out of the convention, worst performance coming out of a convention in this decade, either party, now it’s a dead heat with palin pulling in more of the undecided, obama is losing the blue collar man and palin plays into that demographic as well as women, yes women, contrary to popular believe women dont vote based on just the candidate’s view of abortion
the media is bent out of shape because they didnt know sarah palin, laughable, my 17 year old son has been talking about her for months as a potential vp for mccain
the more the media and dems try to frame her up as a bad choice, unqualified, or a mom that needs to ffocus on her family, the more undecided women will decide
mccain / palin 08

Posted by: woman | September 2, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm

to the blogger named “woman”
You are ignorant! The statements you posted are ignorant and incorrect.

Posted by: ignorantPeopleNeedToGo | September 2, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm

“the more the media and dems try to frame her up as a bad choice, unqualified, or a mom that needs to focus on her family, the more undecided women will decide”
I heard a great Quote today. It said that when Palin was told that the Dems and the Democratic Media (and face it folks, except for FOX they are) would try to destroy her… Reportedly she said “Do you know the difference between a Hockey Mom and a Pit Bull?
Lipstick”

Posted by: Eddie | September 2, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm

Puzzling that McCain self-describes himself the original “maverick,” (Webster’s definition means “refusing to conform to that of a party or group.”) It’s a sad day for GOP. RIP.

Posted by: concerned citizen | September 2, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm

“to the blogger named “woman”
You are ignorant! The statements you posted are ignorant and incorrect.
Posted by: ignorantPeopleNeedToGo | Sep 2, 2008 5:36:25 PM”
Were you born Brain Damaged… Or did that happen later?

Posted by: Eddie | September 2, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm

I didnt hate the Clintons for Whitewater, misappropriating FBI files, Bill humping interns, etc. I dont hate Joe Biden for his family swindling millions from hedge fund investors. I dont hate Palin because her kid got knocked up either.
All the Dems were whining during Clinton’s follies that we need to focus on the issues. All the Reps where whining about character, etc. The irony is great. Me? I care about the issues. I find laudable aspects and fault with both candidates. All four, if you include VP nominees. I am torn as to whether I would rather have the moral freedom of Americans infringed upon by McCain/Palin or the financial freedom of American ruined by Obama/Biden. Not an easy choice. Whats worse? Not having the right to privacy without government intrusion or not having the right to prosperity without wealth redistribution. I dont know.

Posted by: Chasman | September 2, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm

If Obama didn’t get a bump after the DNC, then his 6-9 point rise in most polls must be due to the selection of Palin. Oh, that was before this latest unfortunate declaration. I don’t mind her daughter being pregnant, it is the shot gun wedding that makes no sense. Poor girl tangled in mom’s political web. I would like to see her and her mom on Jerry Springer or Maury Povic.

Posted by: zippy20082012 | September 2, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm

to the blogger ignorantPeopleNeedToGo that responded to me with :You are ignorant! The statements you posted are ignorant and incorrect.”
Obama, a senator from Illinois, had a 47-44 percent advantage over McCain in Rasmussen tracking results through Aug. 30, the same margin he had a week ago, before the Democratic convention began. Including undecided voters who say they’re leaning toward one candidate or another, Obama leads 49-46 percent, Rasmussen said.
Good comeback! Not. Not ignorant or incorrect. Check your facts. In a Rasmussen Reports tracking poll, 35 percent of those surveyed said Palin’s selection made them more likely to vote for McCain, while 33 percent said they were less likely to back the Arizona senator. Most voters questioned in the Rasmussen poll had a good impression of Palin, who beat out more experienced contenders to join McCain’s ticket.
I was an undecided, indepentent, working woman with children and husband, as are many, many of my friends, and the discussions we’ve been having since seems to support this as well
McCain / Palin 08

Posted by: woman | September 2, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm

Gee, I really like Obama, but I would like him better if he had been president of the PTA. HUH??? When was the last time a man used that as his credentials for any job, let alone VP. PLEEEEEEEZE, stop this madness. Even a job at McDonalds requires more than a 15 minute interview…Says a lot for McCain’s decision making ability.

Posted by: VITAL2U | September 2, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm

I could not care less that her daughter is pregnant; that her son has Down’s Syndrome or that she is a woman. I want to know why she belonged for two years to a group that advocated Alaska’s secession from the USA. Does she still hold those beliefs? Did shed become Governor with the intention of pushing that agenda? Is she merely an advocate of what is politically expediant at the moment? I want to know???

Posted by: MJG | September 2, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm

To the bloggers ignorantPeopleNeedToGo and Eddie who replied:
You are ignorant! The statements you posted are ignorant and incorrect.
Were you born Brain Damaged… Or did that happen later?
Your responses are very telling, resorting to name calling and insults when you can’t dispute facts or have a factual debate. Very telling indeed.

Posted by: another woman | September 2, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm

Forget Bristol. The REAL reason you should flee Sarah Palin like the plague is that she is a DOMINIONIST (google it, scary stuff people), aka neo-pentacostalism. You know, the speaking in tongues, snake handling, faith healing antics you might have seen on TV….. YOU WANT THAT CALLING THE SHOTS AS POTUS???? You thought BushCo were pushing for theocracy, you ain’t seen nothing yet! The primary goal for Dominionism is to replace our secular government with a theocracy and bit by bit they’ve been hard at work doing exactly that. How do you think somebody with such little experience got picked for that spot? If McCain kicks it, your next POTUS WILL rule this nation as a THEOCRACY, and not the faith that our “founding fathers” established either, but with all the nutcase theatrics that we’ve seen with the Terry Schiavo intervention, Rapture nuts, the “war on Christmas” fanatics, and oh yes, abortion will be VERY illegal in any form. Roe vs Wade WILL be wiped out, especially after 3 soon to be retiring Supreme Court justices get replaced by her administration. Who will it be? James Dobson? Pat Buchanan? Reverend Moon? John Ashcroft, or perhaps Ken Blackwell. Why do you think the religious right are so fired up about her? Minority rights? GONE! Secular education? GONE! Contraception? GONE! Freedom of Religion? GONE! Will there be more wars? YOU BETTER BELIEVE THERE WILL BE! Forced prayer in schools? YEAH BUDDY! ****DANGER WILL ROBINSON DANGER!!!****

Posted by: LogicRulez | September 2, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm

Forget Bristol. The REAL reason you should flee Sarah Palin like the plague is that she is a DOMINIONIST (google it, scary stuff people), aka neo-pentacostalism. You know, the speaking in tongues, snake handling, faith healing antics you might have seen on TV….. YOU WANT THAT CALLING THE SHOTS AS POTUS???? You thought BushCo were pushing for theocracy, you ain’t seen nothing yet! The primary goal for Dominionism is to replace our secular government with a theocracy and bit by bit they’ve been hard at work doing exactly that. How do you think somebody with such little experience got picked for that spot? If McCain kicks it, your next POTUS WILL rule this nation as a THEOCRACY, and not the faith that our “founding fathers” established either, but with all the nutcase theatrics that we’ve seen with the Terry Schiavo intervention, Rapture nuts, the “war on Christmas” fanatics, and oh yes, abortion will be VERY illegal in any form. Roe vs Wade WILL be wiped out, especially after 3 soon to be retiring Supreme Court justices get replaced by her administration. Who will it be? James Dobson? Pat Buchanan? Reverend Moon? John Ashcroft, or perhaps Ken Blackwell. Why do you think the religious right are so fired up about her? Minority rights? GONE! Secular education? GONE! Contraception? GONE! Freedom of Religion? GONE! Will there be more wars? YOU BETTER BELIEVE THERE WILL BE! Forced prayer in schools? YEAH BUDDY! ****DANGER WILL ROBINSON DANGER!!!****

Posted by: LogicRulez | September 2, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm

Check the facts people. The media is now saying that may not be the case as they have registration cards going back to the early 90′s, she’s registered as a republican. And you really need to check out the AIF site. They really seem to be more aligned with Ron Paul beliefs.
http://www.usiap.org

Posted by: woman | September 2, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm

What’s the matter with ALL OF YOU DEMONATIC’CLOWNS’? ? ? Have you gotten a little afraid of dealing with a woman who has balls! ! !…and stands up to the ‘good ole boys’? ? ?…and, i for one, DON’T CARE WHICH PARTY THEY’RE FROM? ? ? God Bless and Long Live McCain! ! ! He’ll probably be President for only one term…and then ‘Billary’ is going to be up against a real, live woman! ! ! One who doesn’t TALK THE TALK while she lies about her walk! ! ! You know…if not…let me remind you that ‘she was runiing with her head down in Bosnia while under SNIPER FIRE! ! !…Well…those type of lies just don’t work with the ‘real fold’ like the Comedian ‘Sinbad’ who was there and shamed her for her ‘disgracing of the Secret Service’ and our ‘military’! ! ! It seems like this is some type of ‘disease’ that the ‘Dems, Dee’s, and Do’s’ have! Billary doesn’t stand a chance at being President of this fair, miraculous land any more then ‘OBAMESSIAH’ and if she’s planning on runnig in 2012….she certainly cna’t even ‘SHINE THE SHOES’ OF LAURA PALIN! ! !…Who’ll DEFINITELY BE THE FIRST ‘LADY’ PRESIDENT OF THESE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! ! !

Posted by: margaret kelly | September 2, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm

What’s all this about credentials…
All governors have the same knock, limited to no experience on the world stage and foreign affairs, yet this country has elected 16 governors as their president and 11 governors VP. 15 senators have been elected president.
As mayor, Palin was the Chief Executive Officer of her town, managing financials, personnel, services, and capital improvements, yes for a small town. She’s now a 1st term governor of Alaska. There is no arguing that Alaska is a small state, but she is a governor none the less. Palin does have some unique credentials which the talking heads continue to downplay or just plain ignore. Energy independence is one of this country’s biggest issues, impacting national security, the economy, and our lifestyle. Palin thoroughly understands the energy landscape, and how energy rich Alaska plays into national security by lessening the US’s dependency on foreign suppliers. She’s already proven she can tangle with big oil and come out with a win-win for business, the environment, jobs, and people. She’s also tangled with her own party big wigs and won those battles. Her approval rating as governor is 80% (New York Times). She is has no foreign affairs credentials, having only traveled to visit with Alaska’s National Guard stationed in Kuwait.
Obama does have an Ivy League education, is an attorney, a community organizer, Illinois state senator, and now is a 1st term US senator. Much of his time as a senator has been spent on his own presidential campaign. Obama does have the ability to draw enormous crowds here and abroad. He also lacks foreign affair credentials. He tried to quiet that criticism and took a trip abroad in July. His travel cost taxpayers about $28,000. Eight other freshman senators took office the same time as Obama, and the next closest spent $19,200 of taxpayer’s money on travel (NY York Times).

Posted by: steb | September 2, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm

To those people who are so concerned about Palin being associated with a certain political movement for 2 whole years: Where is your similar concern that Obama hung out with domestic terrorists and spent TWENTY years going to a racist church every week??
I give both people benefit of the doubt and accept that they are fine, upstanding Americans until proven otherwise, but come on, can you be less hypocritical?

Posted by: Chasman | September 2, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm

Where the heck are the role models in this world. Our teenage girls needs to understand that their lives is placed on the back burner because she allows life to take care of them.
Yeah, Gov. Sarah’s daugther made a mistake once and then turned around and made another. Gov. Sarah knows she didn’t have Trig and now forces Bristol to get married and future complicate things. This is backwards for women.
And, I want to know what the hell Obama and McCain’s stand is on this type of thing. What type of help will they give to young women who makes a mistake.
This is a National concern to me, and nothing or not enough things are being done about it!
More than a step backwards!

Posted by: Ranger01 | September 2, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm

Where the heck are the role models in this world. Our teenage girls needs to understand that their lives is placed on the back burner because she allows life to take care of them.
Yeah, Gov. Sarah’s daugther made a mistake once and then turned around and made another. Gov. Sarah knows she didn’t have Trig and now forces Bristol to get married and future complicate things. This is backwards for women.
And, I want to know what the hell Obama and McCain’s stand is on this type of thing. What type of help will they give to young women who makes a mistake.
This is a National concern to me, and nothing or not enough things are being done about it!
More than a step backwards!

Posted by: Ranger01 | September 2, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm

Private family matters are those that no one finds out about, they are definitely not announced for the entire nation to deliberate over.
We now claims that it’s acceptable and Normal, that these things happen yet no one does anything about it!
Gov. Palin, its the lies!

Posted by: Ranger01 | September 2, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm

If Gov Palin was so thoroughly vetted, why didn’t her daughter get married before the announcement….we are told they will marry, why are they waiting?

Posted by: yybbbaa | September 2, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm

“Minority rights? GONE! Secular education? GONE! Contraception? GONE! Freedom of Religion? GONE! Will there be more wars? YOU BETTER BELIEVE THERE WILL BE! Forced prayer in schools? YEAH BUDDY! ****DANGER WILL ROBINSON DANGER!!!****”
I am most curious about this comment… “Minority rights.” As I am not too enthused about the term “minority” I have to ask if you actually believe we really ever had any in the FIRST PLACE. And the last time I checked, Affirmative Action was chucked out the window a LONG LONG TIME AGO. READ UP PEOPLE.
If you ask me, Obama is more a threat to “minority” rights than a Palin or McCain could ever be. Once they put that black man up there you will hear in America that all is well in “minority hood, see there is a black man running the country now.” Meantime someone innocent kid was just murdered, the police have kicked the ass of several more black people, and somehow, I just cant get that job or raise I deserve. His entire candidacy leaves me with a completely uneasy feeling.
IT REALLY IS TOOOO SOON for America. These comments say it all.

Posted by: MHAYLOCK | September 2, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm

http://www.akip.org/
correct link

Posted by: woman | September 2, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm

And another thing… WhatEVER happened to “CITIZEN RIGHTS” I didnt realize as a “Minority” that mine were SEPERATE!

Posted by: MHAYLOCK | September 2, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm

Everyone has skeletons-how about Billary and his numerous trists… “I did not have sexual relations with that woman-Ms.Lewinsky”
Mr Obama Husein and Bill Ayers, Rev Psycho Wright and the rest of his revolting problems.
Is everyone on a witch hunt or what?

Posted by: bob | September 2, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm

Cryo,
I beg to differ. I live in a very rural town and there are many Republicans on welfare. How dumb is that. Voting on values and not the needs of your family.

Posted by: vic | September 2, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm

This says to me that we don’t want someone who makes knee jerk decisions like this running the most powerful nation on Earth.
His judgment is seriously in question at this point.
The histrionic response from the republicans says it all, they are scared as heck about this and they should be. Independents will not be swayed by a fanatic of the religious right.

Posted by: Gulp | September 2, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm

At Wasilla Bible Church, Jews For Jesus spoke. Sarah Palin was in attendance. Thanks Politico!
NEXXXT!!!!!

Posted by: kravitz | September 2, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm

OK, so Gov. Palin has a Pregnant Daughter, and Her Husband had a DUI 22 or so years ago and there are allegations of political misteps in the AK states higest office ( most likely info from the opposition) ; Oh and john Mc Cain is not a “true” hero just because he sustained torture at the hand of Barbarians. Obama is nothing but an ex-political agitator and Biden is simply thirty years woth of “Good-old-boy” politics. Hmm Is anyone out there concerned that the Russkies are testing the waters and Iran’s thumbing their collective noses the rest of the world?? Does it not scare anyone that Nikie Kruschav( can anyone spell his name)made a statement 47 years ago that they( the commies) would defeat us from within, and it is comming true?? Is there no one who wants to stand against depravity and sanctify MARRIAGE as it was naturally intended, between a man and a woman?? Are all of you trapped in the Peoples Republic of Berkley, and completely incapable of bringing out REAL issues BLOG about???? How eternal is 50 years anyway???

Posted by: cuzinmikie | September 2, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm

When complains about “Senator Obama experience, s not mention Sen Mccain 25 yr member as well.
And for executive experince:
“My understanding is that Gov. Palin’s town, Wassilla, has I think 50 employees. We’ve got 2500 in this campaign. I think their budget is maybe 12 million dollars a year – we have a budget of about three times that just for the month,” Obama responded”.
His numbers are right.
Wasilla budget is ONLYy 12.5 Mill$
http://www.cityofwasilla.com/index.aspx?page=49
Plus Wasilla, ak use a city administrator, who does the real work. and the mayor (palin) is a figurehead job. Giving her plenty of time to intimidate librarian and police chief. Wasilla went in debt for Palins pet projects. and do NOT disagree with her
incredible poor decisinon. Mccain looks like an angry child. If i cant pick my guy the entire RNC is going down in flames. Like the jets he crashed on purpose. another reason not to trust his judgement. He will get POd and start a war
THis is a scary pick

Posted by: whos that there | September 3, 2008, 12:06 am 12:06 am

If Sarah Palin becomes president if something should happen,it would be like telling my cousin who is a manager at McDonalds to become CEO. But I’m not really for Obama either… sigh. I hate it when I have to pick the lesser of two evils.

Posted by: Carson | September 3, 2008, 1:25 am 1:25 am

Liberal sexism knows no bounds.
Why has Obama never once been asked real questions about his character and associations? Why is the media attacking a 17 year old girl? Why are questions about Obama’s fathering skills never brought up?
Liberal sexism is the answer.

Posted by: reason | September 3, 2008, 9:04 am 9:04 am

JIM IN SEATTLE – yeah right! lol nice try… SO is that a “maverick” move? to pose as Obama supporters while leaving messages like that!?
I LOVE IT! WHOEVER COULD HAVE THOUGHT OF SUCH GENIOUS!?
REASON:
Liberals are not sexist, remember? Liberals are hard core extreme judgmental people who don’t understand that there’s nothing wrong with lying, covering up stuff, unresponsible parents, drinking kids having sex etc etc etc… They just are SO MEAN and don’t understand that it’s NO BIG DEAL. If only their stoopid morals weren’t so high, Palin would not have to make up so many lies just to keep up with it! BAD BAD LIBERALS!

Posted by: GIGI | September 3, 2008, 9:13 am 9:13 am

“Is there no one who wants to stand against depravity and sanctify MARRIAGE as it was naturally intended, between a man and a woman?? ”
shouldn’t that say “between two teens that have no idea what they are doing just so that their mommy can clean her name and run for vice president”?
Let me tell you something… My cousin’s wife left him for another woman. After almost 20 years! The courts gave her EVERYTHING, of course! the “poor wife” right?
She is living in the house that my cousin bought for himself and his family… he lives in a rented room in a third world country now. SHE LIVES THERE WITH HER LESBIAN PARTNER, and until she remarries, my cousin has to send her alimony checks every month! but then of course, she can’t really marry her lover, can she now?
Didn’t think of that, brainiacs! You hate gays you say? well there are gays who are loving your dumb asses!

Posted by: THANKYOUREPUBLICANS! | September 3, 2008, 9:31 am 9:31 am

John McLame was 894 out 899 in his naval academy class. He would be the dumbest president ever and that’s saying a lot looking at the current president. Why wouldn’t this country want someone smart running it?

Posted by: No Way, No How, No McLame | September 3, 2008, 9:50 am 9:50 am

I am so excited that McSame has chosen a token female. If he thinks that women are so ignorant that they will choose to vote for a woman that wants to erase decades of female progress, just because she has a uterus, he is insane. This is clearly a desperation move, and a hasty one at that. This chick is alledgedly a reformer, but has a laundry list of her own corruption. Good luck GOP. More of the same corrupt politics that we have endured for 7 1/2 years.

Posted by: No more Grampy McSame | September 3, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am

Umm… These are Obama talking points, not republican concerns. Palin once belonged to a “fringe group”? Up until a few months ago Obama was chanting “Amen” to Rev Wright spewing “God D America” and indoctrinating his children in that racism. Obama hangs out with people who bombed the pentagon and police stations, and wish they had bombed more. Sarah’s daughter is a pregnant teenager? Obama’s MOTHER was a pregnant unwed teenager. The New York Times, who inappropriately gave MoveOn.Org their “General Betray-Us” ad at 1/3 of the normal price for a full-page ad, says that McCain’s vetting was superficial? Oh they MUST be right! They are soooo unbiased! Please, keep it coming!

Posted by: HawkTheSlayer | September 4, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm

why don’t we see the media questioning Barack Obama how can take care of our citizens with compassion when he ignores his own bother suffering through a horible life in Africa. He’s going to help us and he couldn’t give a damb about his own brother. How can we believe him? He doesn’t even know me and he’s going to look out for me and my family, please.
Maybe George can run Newts comments to MSNBC’s reporter and ask Barack to respond. What experience does he have that make him more qualified over Palin.

Posted by: DemsBite | September 4, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm

Reading all the small minded bitch bite comments on here tells me the Obama people fear Palin. I find it all very amusing that this is the best you can come up with. Try discussing the real issues instead.

Posted by: buckaroobonsai | September 4, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm

How can the democrats be so stupid- have our candidate Obama answer the questions about his association with Ahers and the racist preacher. We nominated a completely inexperienced liar and now want to throw stones. the real vetting process we should be concerned about is Dem Choice for President 08 Hussien Obama– we are not even sure whether he qualifies to run for the President. Is a natural US Citizen?? As a kid he had Indonesian citizenship. His ties to the CHicago underworld and anti American preachers.
The media is silent, why??
Dems , you lost the 08 by railroding the hillary Hillary, Dont railroad another WOMAN.

Posted by: owner of a new party | September 4, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm

Obamas relations with home grown terrorist Like Bill Ayers and the Muslim Black Panther leader and his use of Cocane scares me… What dose he really have planed for America?
He seems to be more concerned about other countries and what Amercia can do for them…..

Posted by: Dan c | September 4, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm

I just read all of these comments, most of you sound like angry liberals who know the end is near. Now your true colors are showing and America is finally seeing you all for who you really are! I just hope Sarah Palin can withstand the fury that will be descending upon her and her family.

Posted by: jj | September 4, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm

Politics is America has become a sad decision of the lessor of 2 evils. If analysts, staff members and canidates would get down to the business of STANDING for what this country is about, and not spend so much negative energy ,then and only then can we have “change”. No one is perfect, not you, not me and not the canidates. Ones ability and accomplishments should be more of the issue. Id rather know what Im getting upfront, then hope for change.

Posted by: OHgal | September 4, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm

All of these little things about Mrs. Palin’s life really don’t mean a damn thing in the grand scheme of things. I would like to see a show of hands from anyone who doesn’t have a DUI or a pregnant teen or a weird uncle or some other thing in their family. What this tells me is that she is just like the rest of us. She has the same family issue’s that we all have.
Remember the old saying” He who lives in a glass house.”

Posted by: Mark Horner | September 4, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm

why this little known woman from Alaska who is Hanson Polin in USA get so much attention. she is nothing much but cheap skate.

Posted by: d.Jaya | September 4, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm

Three new questions:
Will your approach to this campaign change when Obama announces that Biden is dropping out due to health concerns, and that he has selected Hillary as his replacement?
What is your knowledge of “community organizers” and what they do in Chicago?
Why do you oppose adding the polar bear to the “endangered species” list?

Posted by: ragnar30066 | September 4, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm

I want to know why Cheney met with the oil execs of Chevron & BP – as his first official stop in Georgia – on his way to give 1 billion of taxpayers dollars to the Georgia government. And why PALIN SAID GEORGIA WAS A DEMOCRACY BEING THREATENED BY RUSSIA and McCain said we are all “Georgians”.
Republicans lie and lie and lie about what they do around the world for OIL. I’m so sick of it.
See this TIME mag article:
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1838710,00.html

Posted by: Beap | September 5, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm

Sarah Palin is a earmarks goddess. The woman loves earmarks and lobbied for them. She not a reformer, but a deformer.

Posted by: D.Johnson | September 5, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm

Objective evidence over subjective. Look at what people do vs. what people say. I am so fed up with the lying which has gone on for so long. But, when I look at the big picture, this Ex R is voting for the Democrats. Straight ticket.

Posted by: Elizabeth Scherdt | September 5, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm

Sarah Palin is an earmarks goddess. The woman loves earmarks and lobbied for them. She not a reformer, but a deformer.

Posted by: D.Johnson | September 5, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm

Sarah Palin is a earmarks goddess. The woman loves earmarks and lobbied for them. She not a reformer, but a deformer.

Posted by: D.Johnson | September 5, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm

Sarah Palin is a earmarks goddess. The woman loves earmarks and lobbied for them. She not a reformer, but a deformer.

Posted by: D.Johnson | September 5, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm

Geebil You have your nerve complaining about the (quote) “MSM putting words in Republican mouths.” In fact, the MSM has been way too lenient with the Reublicans and hid, didn’t cover, hasn’t exposed a lot of skullduggery going on behind the scenes in the McCain campaign, such as all the lobbyists he has on staff; such as all his associations with now disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff and the fact that McCain hid tons of pages of investigative documents related to the Abramoff probe. Was he trying to hide his own connections to Abramoff?
I could go on for pages about all the dirt that McCain is hiding, like his associations with mob bosses, and the MSM has FAILED to bring out any of this all the time they were going after Obama over Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers. I’d say you cons have your nerve to pitch about the press, seeing they have coddled your candidate way too much. I hope the Democrats sue the “H” out of that Simmons fat cat who is bankrolling a new swiftboat type book full of lies and distortions about Obama. I think they finally are getting wise and beginning to sue the Republicans for their slander, and it’s about time.

Posted by: JL | September 6, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am

jj: you got it wrong. Your post should have read as follows:
“I just read all of these comments, most of you cons sound like brain-dead, robotic parrots, who know the end is near. Now your true colors are showing with all your truth twisting, slander and avoidance of the issues. America is finally seeing you all for who you really are! I just hope Barack Obama can can withstand the hypocritical fury of the right wing that will continue to descend on him and his family from the likes of impudent, lying, ignorant, high-handed “evangelicals” like Sarah Palin. She is dragging her poor family through the knot hole just so she can pump up her own ego.

Posted by: Dr._Detroit | September 6, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am

When is the pro-Obama media going to really investigate Obama’s dealings with terrorist Ayers, Rev. Wright, Louis Farrakan, and convicted felon Tony Rezko. Quit protecting Obama and trying to shove Obama down the American people’s throats.

Posted by: Doreen | September 6, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm

George – I am an urban professional female with an MBA from a well-known school. Like many of my highly educated, very hardworking friends and colleagues, I am completely aghast at McCain’s choice for a VP candidate so late in the game. We are counting on you and your fellow reporters to thoroughly vette Gov. Palin so the American public can really get to know her policy views. We are finding it ludicrously hypocritical that the Republican machine is keeping her as far away from the press as possible when she used to be a journalist herself. If Ms. Palin can’t handle the heat, she should get out of the fire! Just so you know, I have never participated in these blogs before nor contributed money to any presidential campaign since becoming eligible to vote 24 years ago -until yesterday! And my contribution went to the Obama campaign. My friends and I have never volunteered to help a presidential campaign before, but we are thinking of helping the Obama-Biden ticket now. America has too much at stake to allow McCain-Palin-Neocons to control its future. I don’t mind paying my share of taxes, but I want it to go to improving healthcare and education, not war!

Posted by: West Coaster | September 6, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm

Let me put this in simple terms for all of you feeble-minded people who are being swayed by rumors that are being fanned by PAID Obama bloggers or the liberal Obama-loving media.
1)Experience: McCain over 20+ years in Senate; Obama 2 years in the Senate.
Palin is not running for President
2)Heartbeat away argument: Reagan was elected at 73 years old. Woodrow Wilson became PRESIDENT after only 18 months as governor of NJ. Palin has been governor for 18 months.
3)Vetting process was done completely. Just because it was done in secret, doesn’t mean it wasn’t done.
4)BS rumors about her are all fabrications, and the media is stretching the facts. I can list pages and pages of illegal things that Obama and Biden have done which the media is not reporting.
5)Credibility of George Stephanopoulos: Zero. He watched Clinton have an affair with Clinton and said nothing. Plus he is still a member of the Democratic party.

Posted by: a d | September 6, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm

On the National Security “question”:
“Alaska is the first line of defense in our missile interceptor defense system. The 49th Missile Defense Battalion of the Alaska National Guard is the unit that protects the entire nation from ballistic missile attacks. It’s on permanent active duty, unlike other Guard units.
As governor of Alaska, Palin is briefed on highly classified military issues, homeland security, and counterterrorism. Her exposure to classified material may rival even Biden’s.
She’s also the commander in chief of the Alaska State Defense Force (ASDF), a federally recognized militia incorporated into Homeland Security’s counterterrorism plans.
Palin is privy to military and intelligence secrets that are vital to the entire country’s defense. Given Alaska’s proximity to Russia, she may have security clearances we don’t even know about.
According to the Washington Post, she first met with McCain in February, but nobody ever found out. This is a woman used to keeping secrets.
She can be entrusted with our national security, because she already is.”
Also:
“Soldiers of the 49th Missile Defense Battalion defend America from an intercontinental ballistic missile threat 24 hours a day, seven days a week, while maintaining competency in all warrior tasks. (Photo by Sgt. Jack W. Carlson III, Unit Reporter, 49th Missile Defense Battalion.)
U.S. Northern Command brought the 100th Missile
Defense Brigade (Ground-Based Midcourse Defense) to operational level for the first time in response to the July 2006 North Korean missile crisis. Previously maintained in test mode, the brigade, headquartered at Colorado Springs, Colorado, and its 49th Missile Defense Battalion (Ground-Based Missile Defense) at Fort Greely, Alaska, remained at high alert status for the duration of the crisis.”
So I don’t see a problem there. I don’t care about her husband’s DUI more than 20 years ago–he was either a teenager or just turned twenty. It’s not like he had multiple DUIs. And it’s Alaska, not the Boston freeway. NOT GOOD ever to drink and drive, but maybe not the big deal everyone is making it to be. He probably learned from it not to do it again. About Bristol. OMG–adolescents do what they do . . . but it’s REALLY A CRAPPY thing to do to hold them up to ridicule the way the media did. The developmental stage they’re in can be characterized as steeped in the “imaginary audience” in that teens of that age already think everyone is looking at them and thinking about them, etc. I thought McCain did a great job welcoming them and making them feel normalized. And what’s Palin supposed to do–make some big announcement: “Oh, and my 17-year-old daughter . . . ” Palin’s unconditional support for the two of them is great. And about abstinence education–the teens who get a chance to take those classes really like them, because they teach social skills of personal assertiveness, and that every date does not have to involve intercourse. Teens like being empowered. Even condoms have a 35% failure rate, so maybe it’s nice to know there’s alternatives to the sex 24/7 pressure zone kids live in, right? I recommend http://www.rantburg.com for a thorough history of news articles dealing with the WOT. Many of hundreds of thousands of articles archived since 9-11, for those who actually want to become educated.

Posted by: Colorado | September 7, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am

Sarah Palin is George Bush in a skirt. We voted for Bush in 2004 because he was a family man, religious, and the one we’d most like to have a beer with. McCain is as paranoid and hot for war as Cheney. Bush/Cheney = McCain/Palin. If you disagree, please tell me how they are different?

Posted by: Amy | September 7, 2008, 9:00 am 9:00 am

She gave one speech that she didn’t even write! This is either the biggest hype job ever conceived or the Republican are in much worse collective shape than anyone yet knows.

Posted by: Halifax | September 7, 2008, 9:37 am 9:37 am

Come’on ABC. Why aren’t you screaming to have an interview with that woman (Palin)? Isn’t she a candidate for the second highest office in the land? Why are you gyus (the press) protecting her? From what? Ask her the hard questions you ask the dems. If she can’t take the heat then perhaps she should just bail out. Do you think the Ghaddafis and Ahmadinejads of this world are going to respect a person who has to be protected from the press in her own country?

Posted by: Sean | September 7, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am

So Barak writes his own speeches? ha ha that’s funny. (thanks Halifax for the Sunday morning funnies – - ha ha LMAO)
Set aside everything else about her for a moment, at least she has around 12 years of EXECUTIVE experience. Yeah, yeah – mayor of a small town in Alaska is NOTHING compared to a “community organizer” which has NO responsibilities, and then there was that little ol’ Govenor job.
Obama compared his campaigning to her Mayorship. “My campaign budget is, uh, about, umm, 3 times as much, uh, in a month as ,uh her entire yearly budget.” (Her annual budget as Mayor was about $12 million.)
If he compared his campaign budget to her Governorship budget, he’d have to campaign for about 21 years in order to spend her annual budget. ($9 billion per year vs $36 million per month – do the math.)
How much executive experience do Obama and Biden together have? NONE – ZERO – ZILCH

Posted by: glen6431 | September 7, 2008, 10:17 am 10:17 am

I wonder what other questions are “above” Barak’s pay grade?

Posted by: glen6431 | September 7, 2008, 10:21 am 10:21 am

“John McCain hasn’t talked about my Muslim faith.” – hmm – - – a Freudian slip?
Barak just said it on George Steph’s Sunday morning program.
In fairness, George caused him to pause and he corrected himself to “Christian” faith.
He may be Christian, but may have spent a little too much time in a Muslim school in Indonesia.
Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted.
Vladimir Lenin

Posted by: glen6431 | September 7, 2008, 10:27 am 10:27 am

I am sick of partisan hypocrisy. Kneejerk Republicans somehow excuse the 27 million dollars in federal earmarks Palin took as mayor of tiny Wasilla, while claiming McCain/Palin are fiscal conservative crusaders. When did our poltics become so polluted that party identification trumps principles? We are a nation of liars, snake oil salesmen and political opportunists. God help us.

Posted by: Amy | September 7, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am

A mayor of a town of 7000 hires a Washington DC lobbyist and gets $27,000,000 of pork and leaves the town $22,000,000 in debt.
FORGET the personal stuff. This alone (though there’s lots more) should be enough to sink the Republicans.
Dems should repeat that laugh line over and over and over again. Isn’t that more humorous than, “Community organizer? What?”
Cheers

Posted by: cmhmd | September 7, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am

Well Amy – Perhaps if the Federal Gov’t wasn’t taking so much money from the potential coffers of the States, then Mayors and Governors wouldn’t have to ask for money (earmarks) from Washington.
Reduce the size of Federal Gov’t by 50 or 60% and let the States handle things locally. This is the principal this country was founded on.
I don’t know the exact numbers, but across the nation people pay about 5 times as much in Federal income tax as they do in State income tax.
When speaking of earmarks, isn’t it interesting that after Sen Obama arrived in WA, an earmark he got went to a hospital in the Chicago area. The same hospital that Michele works in. At the same time, her salary went up something like $70,000 annually. – hmmm

Posted by: glen6431 | September 7, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am

cmhmd – And yet she has an 80-90% approval rating.
Seems the folks in Wasilla aren’t concerned.
Look a straw – grasp grasp!

Posted by: glen6431 | September 7, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am

Politics of hate. I hate Bush, Chenney, McCain and Palin. You hate Kerry, Clinton, and Obama. Meanwhle, America is falling further behind, China owns more of our real estate and billions of American dollars are transferred to the Middle East, to be spend by terrorists in attacking us. How’s this partisan hatred working out for the USA? And if you start blaming it all on those “liberals,” you are part of the problem.

Posted by: Amy | September 7, 2008, 10:56 am 10:56 am

There is a fourth issue which is far larger than the other three. It is quite clear that Todd and Sarah have NOT been pursuing a country first policy whatsoever.
For aeons of time the media talked about what it would be like to have Bill hanging around —- but it is painfully obvious that America will be well served by Hill, Bill and Jill —-
but what about TODD.
The only things that we know about Todd is that he belonged to a union and a violent revolutionary Alaska First movement and that Ms. Palin implicitly gave it support with her welcoming remarks. These are NOT youthful indiscretions or experimentation – this is recent history.
Were Todd and Sarah Democrats, there is little doubt that he would be on his way to Guantanamo – not as pretenders sitting on the White House lawn

Posted by: devere | September 7, 2008, 11:02 am 11:02 am

States Receiving Most in Federal Spending Per Dollar of Federal Taxes Paid:
1. D.C. ($6.17)
2. North Dakota ($2.03)
3. New Mexico ($1.89) (flipped Red in 2004)
4. Mississippi ($1.84)
5. Alaska ($1.82)
6. West Virginia ($1.74)
7. Montana ($1.64)
8. Alabama ($1.61)
9. South Dakota ($1.59)
10. Arkansas ($1.53)

Posted by: Amy | September 7, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am

Glen6431:
>>cmhmd – And yet she has an 80-90% approval rating.
Seems the folks in Wasilla aren’t concerned.
Look a straw – grasp grasp!<<
Ah, proving my point. Sucking at the Federal teat and decrying wasteful government spending. We should make that the Red State pledge of allegience! You are aware that the Red states suck vigorously at the federal teat, right? You know those "independent-minded" citizens of the Red States all take more out of the federal budget than they put in, right?
And you're aware they can do that because of their disproportionate power in the Senate, right? I mean, the 600,000 citizens of Alaska get the same number of votes as California. The Founding Fathers' biggest mistake!
Cheers,

Posted by: cmhmd | September 7, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am

States Receiving LEAST in Federal Spending Per Dollar of Federal Taxes Paid:
1. New Jersey ($0.62)
2. Connecticut ($0.64)
3. New Hampshire ($0.68)
4. Nevada ($0.73)
5. Illinois ($0.77)
6. Minnesota ($0.77)
7. Colorado ($0.79)
8. Massachusetts ($0.79)
9. California ($0.81)
10. New York ($0.81)
And yet, George Will insists that red state voters are against earmarks, federal programs, etc. He will never tell you that the blue states receive fewer federal dollars than red states. How can democracy survive when political arguments exclude the facts?

Posted by: Amy | September 7, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am

Every Sunday that Sarah fails to appear on Sunday shows, the networks should put out an empty chair and place a cutout of Sarah in it.
Once a show, the moderator can ask, “Ms . Palin, “what do you think about this issue?” followed by about 15 seconds of silence and then move on.

Posted by: devere | September 7, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am

Amy – I can’t speak for you, I’ll let you speak for yourself. You said ” I hate Bush, Chenney, McCain and Palin.”
I don’t HATE Obama, Kerry, Clinton or Bieden. They are just so wrong in their positions on most things.
Russia invades Georgia. Obama’s first reaction is to quantify the action as equal blame for both. – — WHAT?
After his THIRD try on the subject he provides the same position as McCain.
Boy that’s clear concise thinking.

Posted by: glen6431 | September 7, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am

Is this column a re-run from LAST WEEK? Talk about repeating the same lie so many times that it becomes “truth”. Well at least those desparately clinging to Obama’s “all talk” policy seem to have become converted. Taking federal money is not the problem, since we give so much of it to them (hey its OUR MONEY) The problem is when something UNIMPORTANT is tacked onto something critical. I dont trust Obama…or Biden.

Posted by: Thotman | September 7, 2008, 11:52 am 11:52 am

It’s still one thin speech, glen____. I guess the campaign isn’t making her available for interviews because (a) she was an afterthought pick; (b) she’s not ready for daytime, let alone primetime. Oh–wait a minute–it’s because the press was mean to her. Cry me a river.

Posted by: Halifax | September 7, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am

Cmhmd – Wrote: “I mean, the 600,000 citizens of Alaska get the same number of votes as California. The Founding Fathers’ biggest mistake!”
Your knowledge of the Federal Gov’t structure is amazing. Have you ever heard of the House of Representatives?
Alaska has what 1 or 2 and Calif has something like 60? (I didn’t look it up so feel free to be critical.)

Posted by: glen6431 | September 7, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am

devere | Sep 7, 2008 11:46:57 AM
Hey devere – Similar has already been done. I believe the “clock” got to something like 600 days before Obama appeared on Fox News – Chris Wallace’s show.
I like your short silence idea though.
ha ha

Posted by: glen6431 | September 7, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm

Hey Amy – With respect to all of the numbers you posted, a question.
Does the comparison of income paid in to income paid out include the natural resources royalties that the Fed collects (and other Fed fees), or is it just income taxes?

Posted by: glen6431 | September 7, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm

Hypocrisy, hypocrisy. Russia is wrong to invade a country in response to Georgian troops moving to its borders but its OK for Bush to invade Iraq, the enemy of the people who actually attacked us on 9/11, and to threaten to invade Iran, another country whose leaders are elected like Georgia? The Republicans built up Saddam, sold him arms, AND supported the Taliban when they were fighting the Russians. Hypocrites, hypocrites, hypocrites.

Posted by: Amy | September 7, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm

Amy – I’ll give you an “A” and this
“Russia is wrong to invade a country in response to Georgian troops moving to its borders. . . ”
Maybe you should have advised Obama before he stuck his foot in his mouth – - twice.
Iran’s elections are like Georgia’s. ha Another Sunday funnies. ha ha “D-”
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. (I believe that’s an old Arabic saying.)
Hypocrites – Just another word for politics. (And today one could add the National Organization of Women. NOW – Who espouse a woman can have it all – Family, career, success, etc. – - So long as she’s a liberal. Now that’s hypocritical.)
bbfn

Posted by: glen6431 | September 7, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm

Love the idea of the enemy of the enemy is my friend bbfn- by that basis GWB and Saddam had the basis for a David-Jonathan relationship

Posted by: devere | September 7, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm

Halifax said:
>>Alaska has what 1 or 2 and Calif has something like 60? (I didn’t look it up so feel free to be critical)<<
Umm, Duh? As it should be. BUT even in the house the tiny state do better:
Wikipedia: "the present size of 435 seats means one member represents on average about 650,000 people; but exact representation per member varies by state. Four states – Wyoming, Vermont, Alaska and North Dakota – currently have populations smaller than the average for a single district, resulting in over-representation for residents of those states." [Yes, I see Vermont in there.- cmhmd]
But as we see year in and year out, the Senate is where bills are made or broken. The disproportionate power of the low populaton states in the legislature and electoral college is hurting America. Bush v. Gore being a pretty good example!
Cheers,

Posted by: cmhmd | September 7, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm

Mr. Stphanopulos, I don’t understand Senators McCain’s pick for VP, there were sufficient well experience republican women to chose from. Why Palin? Ms Palin stated the war in Iraq was a task from GOD. What will happen if she becomes president. Will it be a task from GOD to invade Russia, Iraq. I hope the American people can see through this scam to gain votes. I’m a disabled veteran, and respect McCain’s service for our country, but it’s obvious he is more concerned about votes then the future of our Nation.

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