The Note: McCain Mixing Economic Messages

Your bias against McCain is ridiculous. Is this the MSNBC website?

Did you see the New York Times/CBS News poll that found Obama is viewed by Americans as likely to bring about change, while McCain is seen as a “TYPICAL REPUBLICAN” who would simply continue or expand BUSH’S policies.
Evidently the “Palin effect” has worn off. Americans are not impressed that she can see Russia from Alaska. Sorry, Sarah
See the story and survey results at:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/18/us/politics/18poll.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all&oref=slogin

Let’s hope that Americans won’t be fooled again by new GOP stunts in the two months to come.
And wow, Palin has lost her appeal VERY quickly. No remark has been more silly than that she would be the Republican Obama…
Obama is riding the waves for almost two years now, with permanent exposure, and yet yesterday 14,000 people showed up again to listen to him in Vegas.
Obama is a category and a quality of his own. He has become a chapter in American history already.
Palin’s place in American history will be her 15 minutes of TV and news paper fame.

Whatever else you are going to do today, don’t forget “be patriotic, pay more taxes” (Biden) They need to make that one into a bumber sticker, sounds like something the British might have said, way back then. LOL

McCain, best days are behind him!

If McCain is only up by three in West Virgina that tells how bad the “strong economy” has gotten.

No wonder McCain is mixing his messages. His main economic advisor told us our economic woes are mental. This guy also helped the big banks with lobbying for loosening the regulations that have helped this mess.
McCain’s latest corproate American guru, Carly…she inflicted pain upon thousands of Americans as she outsourced their jobs overseas and laid off thousands more. She left HP is a tremendous mess while getting millions in compensation.
Another advisor is a Phillip Morris tobacco lobbiest Mccain once threw out of his office, but now calls friend.
How can we expect him to change the policies that have led to thsi economic crisis? He is being advised and financially supported by the very people who helped cause this mess. all while they are very well compensated, saved millions with the GOP tax reductions.
My friends, this is not change.

Ann, it seems the only real press that talking about Obama’s dirty past are British and Canadian press, and of course our bloggers. Auchi is just a name in a long list of many and if you read some of the blogs and British and Canadian sites you will find some shocking scary stuff. If the American press would do their jobs (HAHA as if) some of the others might get a real glimpse of the REAL Barack Obama.

Thank you for reporting last night on McCain’s past support of deregulation, but why did you not give Obama equal time to present his policy to solve this economic crisis? Presenting only one candidate gives tacit support of that candidate. The Bush administration’s policies have bankrupted Amnerica, and McCain has been a large part of them. We cannot continue them just because McCain has tapped once again into the support of the religious right. Why not go all the way back to his role in the Keating Five scandal? Finally, you have left behind the silliness of lipstick and personalities, and seem poised to actually report on the issues that matter to us; yet you only went halfway. ABC News, you are our last best hope for information that is comprehensive and objective. Please do your job!

Both Obama and McCain talk about change, but I offer a simple challenge to both. If you are truly a man of action, substance and good moral fiber, then put your money where your mouth is and restore some level of confidence from the middle class American public by accepting my challenge: You don’t have to have a political science degree to know that neither of you can win this election without winning the vote of the middle class American, regardless of race, gender, etc. So, here’s my challenge to you:
Commit publicly in your campaign to establish, within 90 days of taking office, your administration will immediately create an Ethics Committee, with the sole purpose and goal to bring to justice and punish corrupt politicians caught in their lies, illegal and immoral dealings with corporate lobbyist, and corporate executives who steal hard earned money from their employees and stockholders and taxpayers with their back-stabbing tactics and hiding or lying about facts that cause American’s to loose jobs, pensions, 401k’s, etc…
This committee would, with the solid support of your White House administration, eliminate the golden parachutes for these crooked politicians and corporate execs and instead, hand out severe fines and prison sentences. Member of this committee would be comprised of a handful of middle class American’s, chosen from all across the country, various races, age, gender, religions, ethnicities, etc. Committee member cannot make more than $200,000.00 per year/per household. Committee member would report directly to the President, but just like everyone else in Washington, be held accountable by the American public.
The laws of this country, state and local municipalities were established to in part, to seek out, capture and punish crooks who steal from others. If you can sit idle in the Oval office and turn a blind eye to criminals in political offices and corporate board rooms, then you are NOT a man of integrity, honor and accountability and you don’t deserve to run this great country.
Do you want to restore the faith of middle class American’s in our elected and corporate leaders? Then take this bull by the horns, commit to the cause, back it up with the funding, and prove that you are the right person for this job. Until then, faith will be non-existent. As long as there’s no accountability, oversight and jail sentence for crooked politicians and corporate execs, then we are doomed to suffer the wrath of the Same Ole Song & Dance of the last 8 years.
Even a child would know that: when the justice system stacks the odds against the criminals in double breasted suits, take away their golden parachutes, bonuses for “screwing up” and start handing out prison sentences, fines equal to the loses they caused, only then will the temptation is to do wrong be greatly reduced and the faith begins to restore itself.
So, do either of you accept this challenge to establish this Ethics Committee? It’s not an essay question, so a simple yes or no will do.
- Waiting….

The republicans are out in force today only because the rest of America woke up this week to see clearly, for the first time, how out of touch with reality McCain/Palin are. In panic mode, they are back at it, attacking the other candidate in a desperate effort to obscure the weakness of theirs.
Country over party. Keep the Republicans–the party that put us in this mess–from the WH for the sake of the country.

Can someone please explain to me what OBAMA’s plan is? Every time I hear him talk all I hear is what McCain is doing wrong… so tell us Mr. Genius, what is your plan?????

McCain = DISHONORABLE

Ok, now that was funny… I just read one of the comments above that read “how can you call the media bias when all they do is tell the truth?”! That is simply hysterical. I’m very sure you believe that too. Next to celebrities, the media are the worst teller of tall tales that exist.

It is amazing to me how biased these posts are in favor of Obama…
All of the money that people are having to pour into his campaign because of his outright lie on accepting public financing, might be money that the American public could be funneling elsewhere into the economy……

I am increasingly convinced that McCain’s ignorance actually extends beyond economic issues. The self-professed foreign policy expert couldn’t recognize the name of the president in Spain, our NATO ally. The interviewer was so surprised by his confusing responses to her questions about our relationship with Spain and its president that she forgot her next question. His gaffe is now all over the press in Spain. How embarrassing. Take a listen.
http://www.cadenaser.com/internacional/audios/interview-to-senator-mccain-english/seresc/20080918csrcsrint_1/Aes/

“Next to celebrities, the media are the worst teller of tall tales that exist.”
LOL!
What about priests and politicians?
What about Mrs. Bridge to Nowhere?
What about Bush?
What about Cheney?
What about Rumsfeld?
What about McCain?
Thank God we have our free press!!!!

I really am not trying to politicize this anymore than necessary…but in the face of this crisis and money reporters not talking about this…
…why are we not talking about this… as we are about to elect the person to deal with this issue…
with the deregulation that contributed to this
this is from wikipedia… and is footnoted at that site
The Keating Five scandal was prompted by the activities of one particular savings and loan: Lincoln Savings and Loan Association of Irvine, California. Lincoln’s chairman was Charles Keating, who ultimately served five years in prison for his corrupt mismanagement of Lincoln. In the four years since Keating’s American Continental Corporation (ACC) had purchased Lincoln in 1984, Lincoln’s assets had increased from $1.1 billion to $5.5 billion. Such savings and loan associations had been deregulated in the early 1980s, allowing them to make highly risky investments with their depositors’ money, a change of which Keating took advantage. Lincoln’s investments took the form of buying land, taking equity positions in real estate development projects, and buying high-yield junk bonds.
this was the guy John mcCain was vacationing with…like gramm…he was a deregulator lobbyist and now…those same deregulating lobbyists…just wrote his economic plan.
here is the link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_Five

Well – who’s YOUR Daddy?

Re Obama’s plan: it is on his website, clearly spelled out.
It is in his ads on television.
It is in his stump speeches.
You need to exert just a little bit of effort to find out for yourself rather than asking others to tell you.
Compared with McCain’s approach–we’ll get a committee together to study the issues–it is a fully-fleshed out call to arms against an ever weakening economy.
But to at least get you started: it guarantees a tax CUT to 95% of the people (those earning roughly under $250K), a $1000 tax rebate to help with the immediate crisis, a publics work program to improve our country’s deteriorating infrastructure and put Americans back to work, and a look at tightening the regulations the Republicans loosened to keep this economic horror story from every happening again.
Do some research. Obama has a sound plan rather than a lot of platitudes, many stumbles, and misdirected statements about our sound foundation.

Well maybe that’s just it Kitty, you shouldn’t have to exert energy to figure out his riddles. Let’s hear some straight talk instead of meandering.

A tax cut for people who do not pay any taxes now, is not a tax cut, it is an entitlement–WELFARE.

From our bedrooms to our telephones, to the Internet to our bodies, the Republicans want to control every aspect of our lives. We must vote every one of them out of office. They have a “me first” mentality and it won’t be changed. It is part of their psyche and they can’t help themselves, because this is how they survive. I am an Independent and have always believed I should vote the person, not the party. But now at 70 years old I have come to realize that in order to act as one, they think as one, all of them having the same eccentric radical views that is destroying my country. I won’t be around much longer, but I’d like to leave this country in the hands of reliable and respected leaders for my grandchildren and great grandchildren. For now, those people are Democrats.

Rember Bush telling us all to go shop after 9/11? That isn’t a president, that’s a Shopping Network host at best. I hope the U.S. doesnt vote for more of McSame.

I’m a republican but hope Obamma wins this election. Not because I think he’s the best candidate, but because the masses seem to have short memories and need to be reminded of what a democratic administation will be like. When taxes are raised and the price of gas at the pump doesn’t come down the republican party tried and true core values will look good again. People will come back to where real change started in the first place.

The problem is our leaders have to have special interest money to campaign. No way around it. As long as it is special interest $’s, the problems will never really be resolved.
Keep voting incumbents out and eventually you will see real change. When we send folks to DC special interest makes them instant millionaire for key votes, etc.
The stock market is in real trouble. Foreign investors are bailing out of American companies and taking large losses. So the billion our government gives to companies are instantly lost to folk who bail out. Not really solving the problems of fraud at the top of companies. Start taking all the assets both in the US and overseas and locking up crooked execs at the top for 25 yrs min and thing will change fast.
Neither candidate have a good plan on any issue. Just trying to get votes and trying to protect special interest behind the scenes. See where a candidate stand by looking at his pass voting record on issues is the only real way to know what his or her goals are for the future-all other ways lies.

Obama’s biggest economic plan is to take money from hard working Americans and put it into the pockets of lazy people all over the country that don’t want to contribute to society and aren’t even citizens of this country. Walk into any emergency room in the state of Florida and you can expect to wade through a flood of illegal aliens wanting free healthcare. Want to fix the broken healthcare in this country? Deny any medical benefits to anyone without proof of citizenship.

Kitty, when you’re finished making out with Obama’s backside take time to read this… that man will ruin this country.

hey foolio Stand up Chuck -
who said taxes were going to be cut for people not working?
You are as dumb as Mcstain.
tax cuts are for middle class families
tax relife is NOT for the over rich wealthy fat farts that overcharge for oil and make wallstreet crash
wake up america!!!!!!!
all you idiots for McNobrain are as stupid as it gets in america
commis? sexest? welfare? you are so mislead
get an education

Everyone can tell McCain is an Old Timer. If whoever wants to go back to the time where Technology doesn’t exist, love War instead of love Human… Then go for it. Palin is nothing but small town lady with small town mind. She needs to open her eyes to see there are much more beautiful things to see and learn rather than bringing her Christianity to play Politics. Continue to be “Hockey Mom”, because that is what she is good at instead of taking the job that waaay over her capacity.

tmacioszek
You do not tell the truth, but you reveal yourself.Can you be more of a reactionary hate-monger?
You serve neither yourself, your candidate, your party well; you are the sort of ignorant, willfil, caught in the past voter we must all work to marginalize as we move forward into the new century.

Hey, Pan,
Hurry up, the short bus is about to leave.

tmacioszek, factcheck.org and other independent sites have indicated that most middle class Americans will fare much better under Obama’s tax plan then under McCain’s. If you make more than $250,000 per year then you can expect a tax increase. Just about everyone else will benefit from lower taxes.

Bias-
1- Obamas top two economic advisers , one who was in charge of his VP search team were in charge of Fannie Mae and Freddie mac when they cooked the books, leading to their collapse.
2-Obama is #2 on a list of politicans (mostly democrats) who have accepted lobby money from Freddie Mac, oh and the democaratic congress blocked McCain’s warning in 2005 about these two companies. It’s on the record. No reporting on this anywahere. Open your eyes, anmd stop drinking the Kool-Aid just because you’re reading one side. Obama was never srutinized like this.

Being released from his own lips or by the fingertips of paid cronies?

One of the issues is the lost of good paying jobs with benefits and high energy cost. How much money does someone in India or Mexico put in the US economy? Every job outsourced weakens our economy. You can not take taxes for a man without a job. Or get lots of tax dollars from someone working without benefits or min wage.
Jobs with great benefits should be the first priority of any candidate.
As long as energy soars there will be not end to our plight.

Kitty, so true, that’s why I don’t bother trying with you dems. And I’d be willing to bet that not a one of you has ever served for your country or has a family member that currently is serving. So I wouldn’t expect any of you to fathom what it is to know the importance of a good security in times of crisis. The best man to do that is McCain.

Both candidates have special interest looking over their shoulders. No candidate is innocent.
Look at their past voting record for the most likely way they will lead. There are no guarantees, but it is the best indicator of future visions.

Sgt. HHB, 1st BN, 81ST ARTY, 556TH BDE
1970-72. And you, tmacioszek?

What we’re witnessing is the sudden death of a presidential candidacy. McCain is simply the wrong candidate with the wrong ideology for this moment in American history.
This is not the moment for a de-regulation lessez faire conservative.

Democratic Leadership in Congress Abandons America in Time of Crisis!!
You have to hand it to Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. Once they decide on a strategy, they stick with it. Bloomberg reports that the Democratic Congress will take action in the face of this economic crisis — by beating a hasty retreat:
The Democratic-controlled Congress, acknowledging that it isn’t equipped to lead the way to a solution for the financial crisis and can’t agree on a path to follow, is likely to just get out of the way.
Lawmakers say they are unlikely to take action before, or to delay, their planned ADJOURNMENTS — Sept. 26 for the House of Representatives, a week later for the Senate. While they haven’t ruled out returning after the Nov. 4 elections, they would rather wait until next year unless Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke, who are leading efforts to contain the crisis, call for help.
One reason, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said yesterday, is that “NO ONE KNOWS WHAT TO DO” at the moment.
The stench from this hypocrisy is overwhelming. Reid, Pelosi, Barack Obama, and every Democrat who could bitterly cling to a microphone over the last four days has spewed invective at the Bush administration, blaming the credit-market meltdown on Bush’s policies. Now, at the height of the crisis, the Democrats admit they haven’t a clue as to how to address it!
In the mean time, let’s be patriotic and pay more taxes, hey Joe?

McCain was against the new GI Bill, and did not bother showing up when it was voted upon. Did not stop him from being present when Bush signed it, however.

And what’s Obama’s message: TAX, TAX, TAX….

Obama & McCain are U.S. senators who are running for president. One will take office in Jan. 09. Today is Sept. 08. Neither one can do anything about the financial problem right now. WHERE IS THE CURRENT PRESIDENT OF THE “united” STATES OF AMERICA?? I didn’t see him at 9PM on TV last night or the night before giving assurances that “MY administration” is doing everything possible to solve this problem.Is he in Crawford or in Air Force One ,looking out the window,flying over Wall Street?? Do we have to put up with 4 more years of this incompetance? Please voters, do not make the same mistakes of the last two elections.

McCain voted against increasing veterans health care six times in the last two years! He voted against a mandatory rest period for troops between deployments. His record on veterans and military support issues is dismal. And yet he passes up no opportunity to exploit his POW status. He should be ashamed.

tmacioszek
Do you get paid by the word or the message?

Kiwi, you can make checks out to me anytime you like. Didn’t realize you were such a fan.

Norie,
Stretch the truth much?
And what’s Obama’s message: TAX, TAX, TAX….
That is simply a lie.
Obama would CUT taxes for 95% of the American tax payers.
Republican fear mongering is so yesterday. Get a new message, or at least one based on fact.

LOL–I will not be a fan of lies.
Republican Shill, Republican Shill, Republican shill, it is clear that you certainly are one.
I know you sleep well at night, thinking you have done your duty well, but you have only revealed the depth to which republicans will sink in an attempt to mislead the voting public.
Won’t work, not this time, but have a nice delusion thinking it will.
Ta-ta.

“And what’s Obama’s message: TAX, TAX, TAX….”
You would think this if you were a complete idiot who knows nothing about Obama’s economic plan.
Please, do yourself a favor and READ THE POLICIES.
McCain will increase taxes on 95% of Americans. His plan is to tax tax tax the poor and middle class, and give the tax breaks to the rich elite who have cheated wall street and caused a recession.
You are only helping the economy suffer by NOT KNOWING THE TRUTH ABOUT THESE CANDIDATES.

“Kermit and Miss Piggy” are in trouble. The polls are shifting back to Obama. The so-called Palin Bounce has all but evaporated.

“If you cut taxes for 95% of the country, and raise taxes for 5% then how do you make ends meet? If you over-tax corporations then you will see massive layoffs to offset the expenses, causing higher unemployment and requiring even more government bailouts. But instead of banks, it will be people we’ll have to bail out.”
First, you have to understand Obama’s WHOLE economic plan, not just 5% of it.
Then, you would realize that neither candidate will pay for what they want to spend, BUT OBAMA WILL PAY FOR ALL BUT 80 Billion, WHILE MCCAIN WILL PAY FOR ALL BUT 300 BILLION. Obama wins.
If you raise taxes on the 5% of americans that are at the top of the income charts by 1-2%, IT WILL PAY FOR MORE THEN THE AMOUNT LOST BY REDUCING THE BOTTOM 95% BY 4%. Also, Iraq is wasteing 10 BILLION a month while the coutry of Iraq has hundreds of billions of dollars in surplus to rebuild themselves.
The corporations already have the highest tax in the world, BUT THEN DO NOT PAY TAXES BECAUSE OF LOOPHOLES FROM THE PREVIOUS GOVERNMENT. Hence, economy crumbles. Obama simply wants to make it fair to all corporations, flat tax rates instead of the richest corporations paying the most for lawyers who simply right off ALL TAXES.
If you don’t understand this, you need to read the policies, and see for youself that OBAMA’S ECONOMIC PLAN MAKES SENSE AND MCCAIN’S IS THE ONE THAT WILL FURTHER BREAK THE BANK.

Why is it that some people feel that McCain is better for security reasons after all if you can smuggle a ton of cocaine into the country how about other things ?
If we can put up with a million or more illegals in here just what are they doing?
If the Islamic fundamentalists want to come in they can just walk across the rio grande like everyone else.
As far as our military are concerned they are doing a great job under extremely difficult circumstances where if you are involved in a fire fight and shoot someone you might be tried for murder. Whats up with that ? Where is the support from Bush on this one. Ever hear him or bigmac stand up for these guys.
In a capitalist society we would let all these banks go down after all if you want de regulation thats fine but if you make stupid mistakes dont expect the public to pick up the tab.
This whole situation has caused us to go 10 trillion in debt 10,000,000,000,000 just think about it.

Sept. 18 (Bloomberg) — The Democratic-controlled Congress, acknowledging that it isn’t equipped to lead the way to a solution for the financial crisis and can’t agree on a path to follow, is likely to just get out of the way.
Lawmakers say they are unlikely to take action before, or to delay, their planned adjournments — Sept. 26 for the House of Representatives, a week later for the Senate. While they haven’t ruled out returning after the Nov. 4 elections, they would rather wait until next year unless Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke, who are leading efforts to contain the crisis, call for help.
One reason, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said yesterday, is that “no one knows what to do” at the moment.

Obama has a track record of a knee-jerk call to form bipartisan commissions. As Fox points out and as Francis Beckwith documents, Obama has called for exactly the same kind of panels for:
Social Security (November 2007)
Torture (September 2007)
War crimes (August 2008)
Wall Street (April 2008)
So let’s get this straight. Obama called for a bipartisan commission on Wall Street oversight FIVE months ago. John McCain now AGREES with that suggestion. After McCain agrees, Obama says it’s nothing more than a political dodge? That’s far worse than John Kerry’s famous flip-flop on the $87 billion in war funding in 2004; it’s an admission that Obama was never serious in the first place.
Thanks for the clarification, Senator Obama. We’ll get back to ya.

I haven’t heard any sort of plan mentioned by Obama yet. Well, except for CHANGE, CHANGE, CHANGE. What is this “CHANGE” he speaks of so often? Anybody have any insight on that? If so, please send it my way. My guess is that there will be higher taxes for small business. Seems like a CHANGE to me. Not one that I want though. Not as a small business owner myself. This will eventually result in higher amounts of layoffs. Which will eventually result in an economy in worse shape than it already is. At eh Dem. National Convention, Mr. Obama mentioned that he will lower Capitol Gains taxes for small businesses. NEWS FLASH, small businesses DON’T HAVE CAPITOL GAINS TAXES, you genius! If he had more experience than the 1-1.5 years he’s actually “served” in the Senate, he might know that (the other 2 years he’s spent campaigning). Then again, he did vote “present” a lot, so maybe he wouldn’t. I’m not going to stand up and say that McCain – Palin will be immediate savors, but they will certainly do a MUCH better job than the frauds Obama – Biden would do.
It’s nice to have V.P. that is running that gives kudos to Hillary of all people, saying she is better qualified than he is. That makes both Biden and Obama (for actually picking that joke for a running mate) look like goofs. Biden has even said himself in regard to Obama, “This is no time for on the job training.” Yet Obama went and chose him anyway to boost his campaigns “experience”. Obama already has a nice, long history of choosing some real questionable people to surround himself with. Bill Ayers. Jeremiah Wright. Richard Fuld (CEO of Lehman Brothers) along with a list of other top execs from Lehman Brothers. CHANGE? Seems to me that he has more to do with the current economic CHANGE than McCain does. Hmmm …. They’ll be more CHANGE alright. A CHANGE for the worse, mark my word. Especially if he keeps these supporters and advisers around.
http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/09/obamas-sub-prime-buddies-lehman.html

tmacioszek – Thank you – You are exactly right.
Please be Americans first,do not just listen to rants without checking the facts. Read the facts or check an independent source like factcheck.org, look up the CNN report, or please read any of the independent analyst reports. Read the Washington Post report: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/06/09/ST2008060900950.html
All of them say about the same thing… unless you household income 250K, or according to the Washington Post Report $600K – your taxes would be relatively unchanged under OBAMA’s Plan. If you make that much, it would go down under McCains…anyone here among they elite 1% of the highest earners?

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factcheck.org, look up the CNN report
The OBUMA PARTY LINE!!!
FACT CHECK IS AN OBUMA SITE!!!

I can’t wait for Friday September 26 when McCain educates America on the true Obama. Everyone will be watching. Mccain is not showing his cards until then.

HP Boston:
——-I KNOW!
Stupid Corsi came right out and announced to the press that he wrote the book solely to hurt Obama’s chances in this election. Looks like Corsi wasted his time and money. Check the polls, bubba.
;D

The Bush administration has been trying to rein in Fannie and Freddie for 5 years but
Barney Frank, head of the banking committee, has blocked them at every turn. Top dems
have been getting huge campaign donations from Fannie and Freddie for years (Barak is #2).
Investigate congress their job is to regulate. Bush can’t do anything if they won’t pass
the laws.
Comment from Boston Globe:
“This is not an issue the Democrats will want to engage. Which candidate foresaw the credit crisis and tried to do something about it? As it turns out, John McCain did — and partnered with three other Senate Republicans to reform the government’s involvement in lending three years ago, after an attempt by the Bush administration died in Congress two years earlier. McCain spoke forcefully on May 25, 2006, on behalf of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005.
Even before that… BARNEY FRANK, NYT 9/11/03: “These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis,” said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. “The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.” FRANK WAS RESPONDING TO: The Bush administration today recommended the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago. Under the plan, disclosed at a Congressional hearing today, a new agency would be created within the Treasury Department to assume supervision of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the government-sponsored companies that are the two largest players in the mortgage lending industry. The new agency would have the authority, which now rests with Congress, to set one of the two capital-reserve requirements for the companies. It would exercise authority over any new lines of business. And it would determine whether the two are adequately managing the risks of their ballooning portfolios. The plan is an acknowledgment by the administration that oversight of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — which together have issued more than $1.5 trillion in outstanding debt — is broken. A report by outside investigators in July concluded that Freddie Mac manipulated its accounting to mislead investors, and critics have said Fannie Mae does not adequately hedge against rising interest rates.
by rumpswab September 18, 8:59 AM

Did any of us ever really believe we’d see in our lifetimes a Republican nominee for president say stuff like this?

Mr. McCane Mr.McCane Sir Would you like some more WAFFLES SIR you have had so many latly that you should try more.

Dan – you need to get caught up with your rhetoric. What you wrote was applicable for a McCain supporter 48 hours ago, but not now.
Remember the Army recruiting slogan about how “we do more before 9 a.m. than most people do all day?”
The new McCain slogan: I flip flop more before 9 a.m. than my opponent could in a lifetime.

OBUMA Would you like some more WAFFLES SIR you have had so many lately that you should try more.
OBUMA PUTS SO MUCH SYRUP ON HIS WAFFLES HE IS SLIPPING DOWN ON HIS KNEES BEFORE THE BELL FOR PRAYER RINGS!!

I would rather elect a really smart person with the ability to make critical decisions based on the facts, than one who continues to make poor, uninformed decisions. Obuma’s first decision was Joe Biden. McCain’s was Sarah Palen (who has more experience than Obuma she should be president, but Vice President? NOT SO MUCH!)
I suppose that experience making bad decisions is still a type of “experience”… OBUMA HAS A HUGE LEAD THERE.
Just not exactly the kind we need!

HP – do you really want to compare their first executive decisions… Biden and Palin?
The Palin excitement is waning, mostly I believe because she is no longer interesting now that the investigation in Alaska will be delayed with lawyers battling one another. That’s a drama we’ve seen before, and therefore she no longer seems new, or interesting.
And all McCain is left with is a running mate who can’t yet be trusted to wander off her talking points.

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Your bias against McCain is ridiculous. Is this the MSNBC website?
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Give us a break, no one made McCain open his mouth and spew his garbage, he did it to himself.
I thought McCain and his people were supposed to be tough, a fighter etc…
All I hear is whine whine whine coming from the McCain camp.

OldSouthernWhiteGuy – I live in Dallas County and I’m seeing a move away from the Republican party in Texas. At the 1996 mid-term elections the voters of Dallas county threw out EVERY Republican running for office. EVERY ONE. From district attorney to dog catcher. It would seem that even Texas is fed up with Republicans….

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And what’s Obama’s message: TAX, TAX, TAX….
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And your Candidate’s message: Borrow and spend like there’s no tomorrow leading to what we now can call: Bungle and Bailout economics.
That’s why we’re here, you want to spend money we don’t have, Barack wants to spend money that’s REAL.
A tax and Spend Democrat, or Borrow and bailout republican, which will save this country more money in the long run? Hint: It ain’t debt

The deregulation promoted by McCain brought about California’s energy crisis in 2000, and now the financial crisis in 2008. That’s what we would get under McCain.

WHERE ARE THE FEDS?
Are you waiting for the elections so you can keep your jobs?
What are you doing about how we were sold out in Iraq with oil contracts going to China?
What are you doing about Rangel and his tax evasions and sweetheart deals?
What are you doing about a Presidential nominee doing presumed negotiations with a foreign country?
What are you doing about an organization that receives U.S. funds yet has $$ to make political donations? And has investments in foreign countries?
What are you doing to help protect us against Voter Fraud?
WHERE ARE YOU?

The Republicans, savvy strategists that they are, figured a toothless Obama would be easier to work around than a dead-serious Clinton. So they watched with glee as the Obuma and the DNC savaged the more fearsome opponent. Ancient history now. But then came Sarah Palin, riding a REAL motorcycle, carrying a REAL rifle, and grinning a REAL grin of righteousness (yes, she scares me — I’m strong enough to admit it!). And now the Republicans have new hope, new energy, and new reason to believe that not only will they win the White House, they might change the political landscape for a generation. A little tweak to their reproductive choice platform and they may lose ten million fundamentalists but gain 50 million soccer moms. Hmmmm…
PUMA POWER!

“And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations”….Obama set the GOP VP pick, not McCain….small town, likes guns, religous, anti-trade = SP

Why would America REWARD complete Republican failure ?
We wont.

I am really tired of people saying that Obama doesn’t have a plan. It’s really simple.
Go to his website.
There are plans listed for all of the major issues.
I understand that reading is kinda “elitist” (since “elite” = “more than 1 brain cell” to most conservatives), but I think you can handle it!

If Obama is elected, then it will start a whole new I hate Obama treatment, like was done to Bush but only 10x worse.

MORE INFO CAME OUT TODAY ABOUT THE PALIN AFFAIR http://www.theveep.com
THE COUNT IS NOW 5 SCANDALS THAT PALIN HAS REVOLVING AROUND HER http://www.hotpres.com

Sarah Palin, riding a REAL motorcycle, carrying a REAL rifle, and grinning a REAL grin of righteousness (yes, she scares me — I’m strong enough to admit it!). And now the Republicans have new hope, new energy, and new reason to believe that not only will they win the White House, they might change the political landscape for a generation. A little tweak to their reproductive choice platform and they may lose ten million fundamentalists but gain 50 million soccer moms. Hmmmm…
All you SILLY bots are so afraid, don’t blame you. You do look silly though!
MORE INFO CAME OUT TODAY ABOUT THE
THE COUNT IS NOW 5 SCANDALS THAT PALIN HAS REVOLVING AROUND HER
Posted by: Jixny | Sep 18, 2008 12:59:30 PM
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Run hide, it’s SARAH the BOT exterminator!
Silly guys she can’t see you put your lipstick on!!!

Vote
Sen. John “P.O.W” McCain,
’cause the “fundamentals of the economy are strong”
&
Gov. Sarah “Lipstick” Palin,
’cause she’ll put “a moose in every pot”

Despite Death Threats Further Info From Journalist Who Exposed Obama’s Double-Dealing re: Troop Withdrawal
“While I am encouraged by the senator’s evolution, I must also appeal to him to issue a “cease and desist” plea to the battalions of his sympathizers – who have been threatening me with death and worse in the days since my article appeared. – Amer Taheri
IN Monday’s Post, I discussed how Barack Obama, during his July trip, had asked Iraqi leaders not to finalize an agreement vital to the future of US forces in Iraq – and how the effect of such a delay would be to postpone the departure of the US from Iraq beyond the time Obama himself calls for.
——————————-SILLY HUH!
Ah silly Obuma, some more silly stuff he has been up to. I hope this changes your silly little minds. He has committed a crime!

Hmm. Back in 2006 Taheri was the guy who fabricated the story that the Iranian government was requiring Jewish citizens to wear yellow badges to identify them as such. That story, which also ran in the Post, was completely discredited. Yeah, this guy is a credible source of info.
Why has this story run in the Post and FoxNews? Because it’s simply not true. Oh, but then all news sources around the world, except for the Post and Fox News, are Communist Obama front organizations, right?

Now, all of a sudden McCain says he is for a change. Change from what?From the Keating Five savings and Loan Disaster he helped creat or the present economic melt down mess he voted with Bush 90% to get us into?And he still thinks there is no problem. Infact, he thinks we’re doing well .”the economy is solid and the fundamentals sound”.What has he been snorting or drinking?He couldn’t be living here or talking about our plight. You don’t have to have much brain to see what is happening everywhere in our country around us.Yes, he says he is a maverick . He truly sees things differently.To him our economy isn’t failing, hasn’t failed ,it is succeeding,the spiral downwards is upwards to him.The crisis on wall street ,the worst since the 1929 depression is just a blib and nothing serious. What a joker. He and Bush created this quagmire, sunk us into it and now tell us to vote for them again. Somebody is crazy here. The American people still have their marbles. We got fooled twice through lies and cheating.We are not going to allow it to happen again this time. McCain now says what we need at these trying times is regulatory oversight, which would have cubbed the free wheeling ,sleaze,greed and out right thievry on wall street.One thing he forgets is that he calls himself the champion of deregulations.He and his chief economic adviser, Senator Graham,the author of the “Americans have mental depression with the economy and are a nation of whinners,”dismantled all the previous deregulations in place that could have prevented the present economic crisis,the very thing Senator McCain now wants back, after the damage has already been done.Jonn, it is a bit too late.Think things through first before you say anything.You can’t be shooting from your hip and change your mind later.This is not the kind of change America wants and needs now.Put country first, be honest with youself ,ask youself whether the country has been moving in the right direction the last eight years.If you can’t see anything wrong then you are not capable to get us out of this mess.A good leader must be able to see when something is wrong and fix it.Apparently you can’t.These times aren’t the time for lip service but for intelligent,thoughtful, consequential good planning and management.The old ways of the end justifies the means , lies cheating amd smearing do not help America. You were a POW, and even prepared to sacrifice for the Nation.Be a true patriot now. Your country is hurting badly now.It does not need a failed ideology, a corrupt policy. It needs a true new change. New fresh blood and ideas to get us out of this sinkhole.Do you know how we got there or who got us there?You must.Because you took part in creating it. You did notthig to stop it.In fact, you supported it 90%.How can you now say it was poor judgment and mismanagement that got us into ?A poor judgment, you voted for nine out of ten times?This clearly brings home what we can expect of you.Bad judgment!”I was for them but have now changed my mind”When do you really mean what you say ?I am surprised, you do have such an ever changing mind as an Aviator.What is course is the real one?Is there any judgment you have made you haven’t changed your mind on yet ? “I am for first it and Iam against later” would not be tolerated a second in the business world .No wonder one of your own chief economic spokepersons says you could not run a corporation. She was telling you and us the truth. She is trying to spare America further debacle.In other words ,what she was saying is that, if 90% of the same policies brought on this disaster ,brace yourselves for what 100% will bring us.That lady ,your chief economic should not have been fired . She is the true patriot. She is saying “Country first!” She doesn’t want us to go through the same misery four more years.Even she sees the country is in trouble and has been going in the wrong direction the last eigth years.So John ,howcome do you alone think everything is alright and the economic funfamentals sound?Remember, the American worker still remains the most hard working and productive worker in the world while this melt down is taking place.You are right. You said again and again you don’t understand economics. You are now proving it.Only strong ,smart,visionary and creative policies can get us out of this mess you help creat. Where were you when it was happening?Did you understand what Bush was doing and you were voting for 90% of the time?What were you thinking ?What jugdgment did you exercise during all these voting?. Two things are clear here.Either you did not understand what it meant all along or did not care. Either way is a sign of bad judgment. America deserves better. It will not tolerate the old mediocrity anymore.We have to get out of the economic morases.We need a new change that brings back hope and vitality. We shall not let the American dream die. We will change this in November when Obama is in the White house

Every voice heard from the candidates are based on political maneuvering. Which candidate is the best?
Seek the truth? Only thinks we know for sure is their past voting records on issues. If you eat beans all the time, i bet you like beans. Same with the voting records. Vote for the war all the time is a good indicator you love and support the war.

The issues and the candidate votes or not votes on the issues be explored on national tv as each explains why they did or did not vote on issues that are most important to the majority of Americans.
Then you could decide intelligently, not with you feelings.

McCain and Frau Palin keeping harping about how they are for “smaller govenment” and will “reduce the size of government”. While that sounds good to me (and I’m a dreaded liberal) I have yet to hear how they plan to do that. Let’s look at some budget realities. Where is our money being spent today? Defense and Homeland Security – 22%, Social Security – 21%, Medicare/Medicaid – 21%, Debt interest – 9%, so called “safety net” programs – 9%. So what part of the government do McCain/Palin plan to cut? Interest on the debt? Can’t do that. Defense? A republican? Surely you jest. Social Security? I don’t think so. McCain has said repeatedly that SS is off limits and he’d lose the senior vote. Medicare/medicaid. No way. Medicare benefits the seniors as well. Medicaid? Maybe, given Republican’s penchant for throwing needy people under the bus but not unless the they want to look like heartless robber barons. Safety net? Ha! And cancel one of Reagan’s initiatives? That leaves 18% of the budget for everything else people; Depts. of commerce, agriculture, IRS, interior, justice, labor, education, state, environment, energy, transportation…. the list goes on. The fact of the matter is that McCain and Frau Palin cannot impact the size of the federal government in any meaningful way without touching the so-called “third rails” of politics and they have no intention of doing so. It would be political suicide and they are, after all, first and foremost politicians. And please, don’t say that they will make government “more efficient”. Bush tried that line when he trumpeted his business acumen as a candidate and we all know how that turned out. And, as Carly Fiorina said, neither McCain or Frau Palin have any business sense at all.

Bush plan of smaller government has failed. So, McCain want less? Common sense is not so common.

“Lets let AIG go down and the banks to and if necessary wall st and wipe the slate clean and start again.”
Man, that’s harsh! Talk about scorched earth. I have visions of we city-dwellers (80% of the US) being driven into the countryside a la the Khmer Rouge for re-eduction on how to grow a victory garden. :-)

Yes it is harsh but you know its time for the bankers and investors to realize that if you invest in something thats bad, or have the wrong people in charge you are going to loose money. Why should the taxpayer bail them out, after all I dont see them pushing a lot of money in taxes when the going was good . Did You.?
In real terms in a capitalist society someone else will buy up the bits that work and it will go on. Why should we saddle the taxpayer with the losses ?
I’m tired of the corporate hand outs its like Robin Hood in reverse where we take from the poor and give to the rich.
to sort this country out will require a significant cut in goverment spending and an increase in taxes on those that can afford it and in this Obama is right.
Why should the taxpayer subsidize every thing including paying farmer for not growing food and the oil companies when our own seniors cant afford medication which is 30% of the price in countries abroad for the same product from the same manufacturer.
Frankly republican or democrat both parties should be ashamed at bringing this great country to its knees.