The Note: Palin Charged With Reviving McCain Ticket
ABC News’ Rick Klein reports in Monday’s Note:
Now that (we presume) the economy will be saved and the republic will endure and our money is as safe as the politicians who crafted this bailout package (read: not very), a few questions to take us into a week that will surely be more predictable than the last one:
How many presidents do you need to save a bailout bill?
How many winners were there in Friday’s debate?
How many more ready-made opportunities do the candidates have to shift the terms of the race? (How many times has the Obama campaign done anything as bold as the McCain campaign does about every other week?)
How much impact will "Saturday Night Live" have if politics subsumes the jokes?
Read the rest of The Note — and get all the latest on the 2008 election, Congress, the White House and the wide world of politics every day — from Rick Klein by bookmarking this link.
How many times will Bill Clinton say, "Barack Obama is the best man for the job"?
How many more times can Gov. Sarah Palin unleash words instead of answers without seeing her image cemented by the national media? (How much does Steve Schmidt care about that question?)
(Is the answer to all the above questions, "zero"?)
This is why you pick a vice president (plus the Tina Fey impersonations, we suppose). Palin will be critical to Sen. John McCain’s success this week — the flubs and fumbles under close scrutiny, the episodes where she seems to contradict McCain while talking circles around herself under an unforgiving glare.
The pressure would rest on the McCain ticket’s shoulders anyway, given the shuttle (and shifting) diplomacy of last week that didn’t quite work out. Add to that a first debate that cements the status quo, a running mate who seems to be getting worse the more (still limited) time she’s out there, and a very big week gets bigger for Sarah Palin.
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Posted by: Bill Graves | September 29, 2008, 8:48 am 8:48 am
Dear Gov. Rendell,
Since I have read that you are now a member of Barack Obama’s truth squad, I am hoping that you will spread that sentiment both ways. I would like you to talk about Obama’s trip to Iraq and his conversation with Hoshyar Zebari which I and many other Americans is a violation of the Logan Act. I would also like you to bring to light his 500 thousand plus contributions from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. I would like you to tell your constituents about the Phillip Berg lawsuit which alleges Obama unqualified to run for President based on his dual citizenship. I would like you to relay the truth behind Obama’s questionable associations with convicted domestic terrorist William Ayers. Maybe show some of Reverand Wright’s sermons at your next press conference? Or perhaps bring up some facts from Dr. Lynette Long’s research into the Obama camp’s caucus fraud in Texas. Speaking of caucus fraud, how about Obama’s involvement with ACORN?
I am counting on you, Governor Rendell to do your truth squad duty!
Posted by: HP Boston | September 29, 2008, 8:48 am 8:48 am
I hope she does well to shut everybody up.It amazes me that all the mistakes Biden makes he gets a pass from the media. CNN ran a story about her not even being elected when the Bridge to nowhere were put in play.They also reported how biden/obama voted against taking the money from the bridge to nowhere and fixing a bridge damaged during Katrina Good for you CNN of course we will see if you continue to run it or will it fade as most truths about Obama
Posted by: reddog0216 | September 29, 2008, 8:50 am 8:50 am
HP Just because someone goes to someones church listens to them spew racist non american coments,has the pastor marry them does not mean they ever heard what wright was spewing.Hold on I cant stop from laughing What a Joke .The media really dislikes republicans and gives Him a pass
Posted by: reddog0216 | September 29, 2008, 8:54 am 8:54 am
Yes, Biden and his “35+ years of experience” that everyone thinks is such a big deal.
Palin is a novice in national politics and of course is going to make mistakes.
What’s the excuse fro Biden when he has all the experience? He doesn’t even know U.S. History.
I’ll be Palin knows FDR wasn’t President in 1929. Problem is, no one ever asks her those questions………
Posted by: Lee | September 29, 2008, 8:58 am 8:58 am
THE DEMOCRATS ARE MEAN SPIRITED AND HATEFUL TOWARDS WOMEN. I WILL BE MOVING MY HILLARY VOTE TO MCCAIN.
Posted by: TINA | September 29, 2008, 9:01 am 9:01 am
More than bail out we need “persons of truth” in the White House. After hearing the debate, I can’t imagine Oboma saying anything that was actually the truth. I can’t imagine him saying anything of substance, or that dosent include “I” “I” “I” for most of what he says.
By the way, When you are in Alaska and hear those jets overhead. That roar is more than likely on its way to the border to let the Russians know that we are there. Therefore, Sarah Palin as governor of a “First Defense State” would have more foreign experience, if for no other reason, because two other Countries border her state. Maybe she is not at liberty to disclose too much information about what goes on around those borders. Think about it, Oboma has not had that experience.
Thanks Sarah Palin for your Honesty.
jjsjr
Posted by: jjs | September 29, 2008, 9:02 am 9:02 am
How many times has the Obama campaign done anything as bold as the McCain campaign does about every other week?
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If it was a question of boldness, then zero would be good for McCain, but being it is absurdness that we are talking about zero is good for Obama.
McCain is fighting this campaign like we have fought the Iraq war, no planing involved, no clear direction for winning, and not sure what the goal is.
So far his attempt at shock and awe, has been all shock, but no awe.
Posted by: Thinking | September 29, 2008, 9:02 am 9:02 am
I would not ask a mother of FIVE (one Pregnant and one a newborn) to bring cookies to a cookout, much less to be VicePresident of my country.
NO MORE NONSENSE
NO MORE REPUBLICAN GOVERNMENT
NO MORE.
Posted by: GIGI - FREE SARAH | September 29, 2008, 9:03 am 9:03 am
jjs
you should really consider running for Secretary of Defense.
Get real.
Posted by: GIGI - FREE SARAH | September 29, 2008, 9:05 am 9:05 am
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Posted by: Penny | September 29, 2008, 9:06 am 9:06 am
THE DEMOCRATS ARE MEAN SPIRITED AND HATEFUL TOWARDS WOMEN. I WILL BE MOVING MY HILLARY VOTE TO MCCAIN.
Posted by: TINA | Sep 29, 2008 9:01:45 AM
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First: you are not a woman
Second: ARE YOU SINGLE, LIVING WITH YOUR PARENTS?
DO YOU HAVE CLEAN SOCKS – RIGHT NOW?
lol!
Third: Try dating, outside of your family circle.
enough of this nonsense.
Posted by: GIGI - FREE SARAH | September 29, 2008, 9:07 am 9:07 am
WOW, another example of extreme bias! When did anyone ever hold the top of the Democratic ticket, Obama, to the same standard;
How many more times can Gov. Sarah Palin unleash words instead of answers without seeing her image cemented by the national media?
DIDN’T you see the debate, Obama must have answered half of his questions with wordage rather than facts or details. GET OVER YOURSELF MEDIA FOOL! Remember when this is done you will have no credibility then, as you have none now!
Posted by: TW Stone | September 29, 2008, 9:08 am 9:08 am
You know, ever since I heard that McCain called his wife Cindy the “C” word in public whenever I see or hear his name I think “McHunt”!
Posted by: Bill in NC | September 29, 2008, 9:10 am 9:10 am
jjs,
Nice stretch. Even if the Russians attacked through Alaska, the majority of the military stationed in Alaska is currently under Federal control, not state control. Palin would only have control over the National Guard, which in the case of an attack, would immediately fall under Federal control. The only control she has over the National Guard is in the case of disaster or another crisis like civil unrest, not attack by international force.
Posted by: Mack | September 29, 2008, 9:12 am 9:12 am
All your comments and yet the wars drag on. If another country invaded America and occupied it and my wife and kids were killed I would have nothing. I don’t care how long it would take, I would strap bombs to my chest and visit the country responsible. That is the Bush legacy and all McCain can do is underscore it and put an exclamation mark after it. And he’d do it with stupid pride. Bush and McCain paint a bulls-eye on an American city like Seattle or Boston or Miami and it stays there for at least fifty years. Go ahead and vote for John McCain if you live in the same fool’s paradise as him and George Bush. In fact, because everyone is allowed to vote, some people vote who are idiots.
Posted by: thoren | September 29, 2008, 9:12 am 9:12 am
If I have my way I will ask Oboma to withdraw from the race because. I do not want an innocent man like him that has the interest of peace and growth of his country America to be blamed for the collapse of America empire. From my own point of view I think America has reached it climax just like other big empires before America. With regards to the debate between Oboma and McCain I realy can understand that majority of Americans love and glorify war so much instead of diplomacy and peace otherwise I do not understand why McCain can still have the affront to vie for the oval office and some American people in their right senses came out in mass to support him, knowing fully well that he is a war monger and he contributed a lot to the American present economic situation. I do not understand if America recognized that they have lost control and respect of world since eight years ago. I wonder why they did not notice that China and France are seriously fighting for the leadership position America carelessly dropped. China has taken over Africa and Middle East while France is in control of Europe through their new charismatic leader. Presently China and Russia are fighting for the control of South America. The world is changing so fast that military power or war no longer determine your might but your efficiency in diplomacy, economy and vibrant leadership. Years ago USSR was carried away by it’s military might and later collapsed. Thanks to God that Putin came to save them from completely vanishing from the world map. During those years of Putin he did not fight any war but concentrated on economy and diplomacy that is reason Russia is again a country to be counted on as a world power. China for years avoided war but resorted to making friends with countries and creating markets, that is the reason they have a lot of market to supply their goods and products. In Africa I can hardly see any American product. But let me warn America there are two traps which I pray you do not plunge into, the traps are Iran and Russia. This may lead to the total collapse of your empire if you resort to war instead of diplomacy as solution to resolve the crazy act of these two countries. Most Europe countries are no longer happy with your incessant wars which has brought economic problems to them and bad relationship with the middle east and many other continents. Take example from your NATO member Spain that withdrew their troops from Iraq. You may not agree with my view but you will realize what I mean when you start up another war.
Spain example is a warning. NATO OR NO NATO be informed that Europe are no longer ready for any other war. Peace with your enemy is the only way to avoid this calamity. Read the hand writing on the wall, you are being circled by enemies you created out of carelessness. South America, Canada, Cuba are all against you. Do not pretend you do not know that Canada is nursing a bad feeling against you. With peace and diplomacy I am sure you will get Osama bin laden and also defeat terrorism, but with aggression you may find it impossible. I do not think that the Arabs like Osama and his gang of murderers but what I think is that they do not like the way America is going about it. Quote me, any day America chose the way of diplomacy I am sure the Arab world will provide Osama and his gang to America to face justice because they know where he is hiding. Iran nuke will came to end, North Korea will also stop their nuke adventures. Chaves rhetoric will come a stop, the world will love America once again. Listen to your former secretaries even though Mr. Kissinger cowardly denied what he said when he was pressed by Christina Amampur to clarify his stand on diplomacy and direct taik with your enemies, he mumbled his last word but we all heard him. America should not because of pride and ego get into what they cannot handle. McCain is too dangerous to rule America for now. He will bring more problems to you. From the statements ot the people of Europe and their leaders with respect to Oboma tour in Europe you can understand that they do not like McCain, Middle East do not like him, your neighbours in American continent do not like him, Asia do not like him even Africa does not like him. America should chose a president the world would accept so that your diplomacy and relationship in the world you are leading would agree. I know America has right to elect who ever they want as president but should elect the person that will be accepted to the world you are leading so that your foreign policies will be accepted by other nations. If you elect McCain honestly you may be isolated by other countries who do not love war but peace.
Keny christian
Posted by: keny | September 29, 2008, 9:14 am 9:14 am
TINA:
You are sexist. That’s one of the main reasons McCain chose Palin – because they know that negative attacks on a nice looking mother just rubs people the wrong way.
jjs:
Do you really think the federal goverment would let the governer of Alaska handle international diplomacy with Russia just because she’s close to the border? Please.
It isn’t fair to the American people that the Republican Party is allowed to keep someone running for such an important position in this country away from any unscripted questioning for so long. The voters deserve to hear from a person who could be running our country if McCain dies. Her choice as a running mate was a gimmick to get votes, and that’s not the way a democracy should be run.
Posted by: Ben | September 29, 2008, 9:15 am 9:15 am
Here is one to add to your article:
How many times does Obama need to say Sen. McCain is right, during the debate?
Posted by: James | September 29, 2008, 9:17 am 9:17 am
TW,
Both sides had prepared 2 minute statements and possible rebutal statements for the debate. It was their ability to adjust to what the other person said that was important. In this aspect, I think Obama did a little better. It seemed like McCain had certain phrases he was to use and he used it whether it fit or not.
Posted by: Mack | September 29, 2008, 9:19 am 9:19 am
I am just sort of waiting to see what type of STUNT Palin is going to pull to get out of the debate Thursday. lol ;)
Posted by: Omidal | September 29, 2008, 9:19 am 9:19 am
Here is one to add to your article:
How many times does Obama need to say Sen. McCain is right, during the debate?
Posted by: James | Sep 29, 2008 9:17:42 AM
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who cares?
it’s all in the context, what are you doing?
Really? that’s all it takes to sway you?
Posted by: GIGI --- FREE SARAH | September 29, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am
Obama supporters love to talk about whether Gov. Palin is ready to be president (even though she’s running for VP). The real questions is whether a community organizer from Chicago with close ties to a convicted felon, an unrepentant 60s bomber and the corrupt Chicago political machine is ready to be president. I think not. Another Democrat for McCain / Palin.
Posted by: Graniteman | September 29, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am
Once again big mouth Republican jerks venting their John Wayne “I know everything” BS. Bring back the draft McSame. Then send this laughablre phony, Palin, off to Iraq. On the front line. Then and only then will their be JUSTICE from the disgusting anti-constructive Republican Party.
Posted by: DEBBIE HONERS | September 29, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am
James,
Why would he say McCain was not right in instances where he was? Two candidates can have some common ground on some topics, but if you notice beyond the statement that John got something right, Obama expanded on what McCain said. It was not a cop out to get out of answering. Also, the majority of those statements were around the economy, which was an area where the two sides did not have many differences as to what was needed for resolution.
Posted by: Mack | September 29, 2008, 9:25 am 9:25 am
Did I just hear right?? I just heard on CNN that a McCain campaign surrogate was making remarks regarding the Conservatives calling for Palin to step down because of her unpreparedness and demonstrated shortcomings in her recent interviews.
The defense was that -”Only the intelligent conservatives are calling for her to step aside.” That most other conservatives are not.
Did they just basically say, only unintelligent conservatives are supporting Palin?
Posted by: Ken | September 29, 2008, 9:27 am 9:27 am
AND ENOUGH WITH THIS RELIGIOUS NONSENSE TOO!
Last time I checked this was a country of LIBERTY AND FREEDOM.
or was it JUSTICE? and was it “JUST FOR THE CHRISTIANS” or was it FOR ALL?
ENOUGH, Republicans are turning this country into a dictatorship where if you are not with the “norm” in COLOR, RELIGION, CONVICTIONS, FAMILY STRUCTURE , then you are no good.
You know sometimes I think we have some BIG GIGANTIC BRASS BAWLS to talk about uniformity in any way shape or form.
EVERYBODY GO BACK TO WHERE YOU CAME FROM (and this land is not OUR land last time I checked) or embrace a state of UNITED brotherhood and HUMANITY.
oh and Enough with the Republicans already. out out out out with civil dissobedience if necessary, but OUT.
Posted by: GIGI - FREE SARAH | September 29, 2008, 9:27 am 9:27 am
Graniteman,
Maybe it is because Democrats know how to look beyond the short term. Palin is VP on the ticket of the oldest running President in history. And to add to the concern, he is a twice over cancer survivor, 6 years into the typical 8 year recurrance of the cancer. So, who is running as VP on the ticket is as important as who is running for President because the chances the VP will become President is high.
Posted by: Mack | September 29, 2008, 9:27 am 9:27 am
Republicans should learn never to throw boomerangs from glass house. The Democrats suffer from maladies, but the hypocracy and double-speak of the Republicans this cycle is intolerable. I used to identify favorably with the Republican Party and John McCain. But his general campaign has ruined my faith in both institutions. I guess John McCain will keep running for President, but I wish he wouldn’t.
HP in Boston. Saying Obama violated the Logan Act is like accusing McCain of having an illigitimate child in South Carolina. Even if you could substantiate your comment, John McCain’s own statements during the course of the campaign would be enough to draw him up on the charges that you wish to level against Obama. Alternatively, why not look into McCain’s associations with organizaed crime and draw up some RICO charges? Or let’s go old school and talk about the Keating Five.
Posted by: AL in TX | September 29, 2008, 9:29 am 9:29 am
One thing I haven’t seen mentioned by anyone but that bothered the heck out of me from the debate was that McCain never looked at Obama. To me that smacks of a lack of courage or at least graciousness which I would have expected McCain to have an abundance of given his age and experience.
Obama bothered me with raising his hand so much to get a question in: trying too hard to be a nice guy?
Posted by: richard | September 29, 2008, 9:29 am 9:29 am
Ken,
There have been 3 or 4 Conservatives that have asked Palin to step down. One, a woman, was in support of Palin when she was first selected, but wrote an editorial after the Couric interview for her to step aside. They are concerned that the more she is allowed to talk, the more people will realize she is not ready for the major leagues of National Governmnent. If that happens, they are afraid the ticket will lose the independents and borderline Republicans.
Posted by: Mack | September 29, 2008, 9:30 am 9:30 am
All your comments and yet the wars drag on. If another country invaded America and occupied it and my wife and kids were killed I would have nothing. I don’t care how long it would take, I would strap bombs to my chest and visit the country responsible. That is the Bush legacy and all McCain can do is underscore it and put an exclamation mark after it. And he’d do it with stupid pride. Bush and McCain paint a bulls-eye on an American city like Seattle or Boston or Miami and it stays there for at least fifty years. Go ahead and vote for John McCain if you live in the same fool’s paradise as him and George Bush. In fact, because everyone is allowed to vote, some people vote who are idiots.
Posted by: thoren | Sep 29, 2008 9:12:45 AM
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Brother,
you forget… those are not “real” people. It’s like a video game. Who cares if their children are left limbless or thei little bodies are found only after removing rubble and sand… it’s not “real” to us.
more than 75% of the time, we don’t even hear about it.
BUt you know WHO does? the rest of the world.
who is the real terrorist now?
Posted by: GIGI - FREE SARAH | September 29, 2008, 9:32 am 9:32 am
Hey HPBoston, Obama has dual citizenship? NO! But I guess you must be upset since you probably just got laid off from HP or did you get laid off while McCain’s adviser, Fiorina, was CEO and left with 40 million? While McCain’s blathered about CEO golden parachutes he denied that he was talking about Carly, “she’s a great woman”. McCain might be down to just racists by the time of the election.
Posted by: john | September 29, 2008, 9:32 am 9:32 am
hp boston has been let out of the asylum again i see
score enough good behavior points that they allow you a few minutes on the comp hp?
Posted by: Bhrandon | September 29, 2008, 9:34 am 9:34 am
You can boldly go to war and put our kids lives at stake for lies too right. Electing Mc Same is ludicrous and to put Palin anywhere near a decision to put our kids in harms way even more so. Barack is not too nice he is however very intelligent as opposed to mc Grumpy. Senator Obama is a reasoned individual displaying a great temperament for being President of the United States. Senator Mc Same is going to have to replace his knee if he keeps jerking it this much. On Monday our fundamentals are strong then lets drop everything and run to Washington so we can distract America from the issues. Mc Grumpy does not want the focus on I am now down nine(9) points in the polls and my campaign manager Rick Davis has been taking $15,000 a month from Freddie Mac. Look the other way and don’t ask my running mate any questions while she is in the cocoon we are keeping her in. Senator Obama has on his economic team Warren Buffet, Robert Reich, Paul Volcker all great advisers. Obama can also walk and chew gum at the same time which Mr. Lets delay on the debate until some day when America is not focused on the economic crisis my Republican cronies created. Run to George W. Mc Same and then tell us how you are not exactly the same as him. You were against the AIG bailout and then for it, you blamed Obama for it all and now want to work with him. Take your meds you are getting frenetic and tough to keep up with what you believe. Your ruses wont pull any more wool over the American electorate. To recap Senator Obama is the by far better choice for our economy and our country and its standing in the world. OBAMANOS! SI SE PUEDE! YES WE CAN AND WILL WIN IN November! I am a decorated veteran of the US Army, My son fought it he 82nd Airborne in Iraq and I approve this message. Airborne all the Way and then some!
Posted by: Col Joseph Bento US Army Ret | September 29, 2008, 9:37 am 9:37 am
John Mccain v/s the Media.
I agree With Jefferson in his line of reasoning it is better to have even a vile, nauseous media rather than have no free media.
I guess right now Media is desperate to control the minds of the people but they have been sidestepped by technology. So in this WAR OF WORDS its technology that will triump and truth prevail.
McCain/ Palin 08
Posted by: vic | September 29, 2008, 9:38 am 9:38 am
OMG Palin is a moron. I cannot believe that she seriously thinks that because Alaska is close to Russia, that gives her foreign policy experience and millions of suckas out there are gullible enough to fall for that one.
Yes, she is the female version of “W”.
Her answers are pathetic as her views.
Well Cuba is even closer to Fla, does that give Gov Crist even more foreign policy experience? What a laugh….
Posted by: greg | September 29, 2008, 9:38 am 9:38 am
Palin did revive the McCain ticket-but…the novelty of an unknown, mother and woman can only be stretched out for so long. Look all this is all cute but.
we are almost in a depression-This is serious stuff we are dealing with. Bantering each other with silly words doesn’t change the balance of deficit. I might add the McCain voted for Cox and helped in degregulation. He was warned of the problems and didn’t do anything. Now he wants to fire Cox? So does the republican? Too too late-the damage is already done. You need to keep Cox in there to clean up the mess he created and to be accountable. Thos who made a large profit of money should be fined 35 to 40 % on penalties. They knew exactly what they were doing. Socialism is what we are blaming on Obama. Lets see family are losing homes, due to not having insurance there is about 30 % of people dying because they can’t get treatment, savings is not possible because every penny is going to put food on our table, heating, gas for the car and paying the mortgage. Our Captialism hasn’t been working for the last 8 years. Prove to me it has-give me facts. Look at statistics about the loss to Americans in the areas I mention. I just cried when a family lost their loved one because their insurance was capped and had to take him off the ventilator. It was my daughters teacher’s husband. give me a break!!!!
Posted by: Sophia | September 29, 2008, 9:40 am 9:40 am
The problem with Palin’s answers to Courics’s questions is this:
Half of America thinks Palin DID do a good job. Half of America is so dumb that, because they didn’t understand a word Palin said, they think she DID say something coherent.
This half of America NEVER understands what ANY politicians are saying because they have a first-grade mentality and simply cannot truly comphrehend anything past that level.
SO, Sarah can string a bunch of big words together in an incoherent stream of blather, and half of America thinks she is smart and polished and will vote for her. They are simply too dumb to know how dumb they are.
Posted by: mavisdarling | September 29, 2008, 9:41 am 9:41 am
Let’s get real. Of course, Biden has made ridiculous remarks. I cringe when he gets ready to speak. But there’s a qualitative difference. It’s one thing to get your history screwed up: it’s another to say you have foreign policy experience because you can see Russia from an outlier island. Have you actually listened to some of those remarks???
Posted by: richard | September 29, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am
As they say in some games, for Palin to revive McCain’s campaign is a “big ask”.
I think he will just be praying she does not show him up completely.
Obama will be praying that Joe Biden has a gaffe-free hour or so.
I really don’t expect anything to be settled. There is much more at stake for the Republicans. But even if Palin is an out-and-out winner, it will hardly affect the race. Verdict: a week lost by the McCain camp to prepare Palin for a debate that will have little meaning other than to vindicate or damn John McCain’s political judgment.
Posted by: toby | September 29, 2008, 9:45 am 9:45 am
mavisdarling,
so sad but so true!
That’s why I’m all in favor of Obama starting a new strategy with his campaign.
no more Mr. Nice guy, we need to do it the way they do it and put our shame on hold. It worked for Bush! and now it’s working for McCain.
We should hire Karl Rove (eeeeeK! the chills!, I think I threw up a little)
Posted by: GIGI - FREE SARAH | September 29, 2008, 9:46 am 9:46 am
Sarah Palin may not be the most experienced candidate running for VP, but at least she’s second on the ticket under McCain. Senator Obama hasn’t shown that he knows even half what Senator McCain does in order to run the country, not to mention the fact that he’s only served less than two years in the senate, most of that running a presidential campaign. Dems, say what you want, you always do, even though mean spirited (see above comments GiGi and Al) I still feel McCain/Palin has more experience and I will be voting for them come November.
Posted by: Tom | September 29, 2008, 9:46 am 9:46 am
McCain keeps saying “country first” that it’s not about him… it’s about the country…so then why would he choose Palin as a VP..He’s gotta know that he’s at an age that he can get sick and die. And then Palin would be in charge..Anyone with a brain can se that McCain is full of crap when he says “country first” and then panders to the female vote by picking Palin. There had to be a more qualified choice in the republican party than this bimbo.
McCains choice of Palin is so transparent.. It’s very scary that this woman, who by the way proved that she has misused her power (read about the state trooper she fired) has her finger near the big red button…it’s scary that she had the mind set to try and ban books from the library…
But lucky for us …she keeps an eye on Russia. What a BIMBO! I hope you all are smart enough to see how dangerous having Palin near the whitehouse will be….She can’t even talk in a coherent way on a TV interview…can you imagine if she had to speak to other world leaders..She’s a fluke …a wanna be…a poser….Tina Fey would be a better choice for VP !
Posted by: David | September 29, 2008, 9:46 am 9:46 am
Think about this. We have lawyers who were trained in ivy league universities running our country. And where are we? Our country is in trouble politically and economically and we have all the well trained, educated men and women in our country ruining our country.
So here comes someone from the grass roots in Alaska. Taking on a very powerful political machine, winning a very tough opponent and we now look down upon that so we can have more intellectuals running this country?
Why???
Posted by: nobama | September 29, 2008, 9:48 am 9:48 am
Did I just hear right?? I just heard on CNN that a McCain campaign surrogate was making remarks regarding the Conservatives calling for Palin to step down because of her unpreparedness and demonstrated shortcomings in her recent interviews.
The defense was that -”Only the intelligent conservatives are calling for her to step aside.” That most other conservatives are not.
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I heard that on Fox this morning. Please don’t laugh, I watch Fox just to see how they spin Palinism. I guess most conservatives are just easily manipulated lemmings according to the McCain campaign staff.
All morning they have basically tried to lower the bar for Palin. “The debate is not fair because it is 60% international relations”. “Biden is an expert debater.” etc….
The expectations for Palin are so low, if she doesn’t fall off the podium, it will be considered a success.
This is the BEST the GOP has to offer.
Posted by: Yep, that's what they said | September 29, 2008, 9:48 am 9:48 am
For some unknown reason, the bridge to no where, will be blown up. Palin will miss the debate because she will have to rush back to Alaska to take charge of re-routing the global commerce that has been shut down, due to the loss of the bridge (to no where). She will issue a statement, “blaming Russia”. Tina Fey will take her place in the Thursday nite debate.
Posted by: rick | September 29, 2008, 9:48 am 9:48 am
John Mccain v/s the Media.
I agree With Jefferson in his line of reasoning it is better to have even a vile, nauseous media rather than have no free media.
I guess right now Media is desperate to control the minds of the people but they have been sidestepped by technology. So in this WAR OF WORDS its technology that will triump and truth prevail.
McCain/ Palin 08
Posted by: vic | Sep 29, 2008 9:38:32 AM
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If I was ugly, I’d throw rocks at my mirrors too.
Move to the land of the blind, and get all others drunk until I looked pretty in their eyes while I’m at it.
Posted by: GIGI - FREE SARAH | September 29, 2008, 9:49 am 9:49 am
Let me see now….having applied all of the reasoning put forth as to why Sarah Palin should withdraw and applying it equally to the other candidates….hmmmmm….it appears that it is time to ask Mr. Obama to withdraw from the race as well because he is in a virtual dead heat with Palin on the “experience” factors. Mr. McCain…please get your staff to trust your pick and let Sarah Palin be Sarah Palin. She has a source of wisdom and strength that has been suppressed by political gameplaying. Let her be who she is. No one person is going to change what our nation will now face but I’d rather have someone who is standing on principle than rhetoric.
Posted by: Lee | September 29, 2008, 9:53 am 9:53 am
Lets face it McCain has made a joke of his campaign.
One stunt after another.
Putting Palin on his ticket. Lets face it everybody knows she is out of her league. I am sure she is a great alaskan governer but she is no diplomat or VP.
McCain insults you at every stop, I can’t believe people can’t see it. I was a Conservative but the way the party has gone is horrible Bush can’t string a sentance together and McCain does stunt after stunt. Please enough already!!
Obama may not be as experienced but to be honest he is showing he has much better temparance and coolness. Look at how he has ran his campaign. Look at what he brings for the american brand.
Plus he has ideas and thinks!! Something our politicians have had problems doing. Does anybody realize how badly the states is now percieved worldwide with the current idiot running the whitehouse. Then McCain expects you to pick him when he does stunt after stunt and puts palin on the ticket. Please watch the katie Couric interview it is embarrasing and painful. If you don’t see that you are fooling yourself.
Posted by: Nick | September 29, 2008, 9:54 am 9:54 am
Dear Gov. Rendell,
Since I have read that you are now a member of Barack Obama’s truth squad, I am hoping that you will spread that sentiment both ways. I would like you to talk about Obama’s trip to Iraq and his conversation with Hoshyar Zebari which I and many other Americans is a violation of the Logan Act. I would also like you to bring to light his 500 thousand plus contributions from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. I would like you to tell your constituents about the Phillip Berg lawsuit which alleges Obama unqualified to run for President based on his dual citizenship. I would like you to relay the truth behind Obama’s questionable associations with convicted domestic terrorist William Ayers. Maybe show some of Reverand Wright’s sermons at your next press conference? Or perhaps bring up some facts from Dr. Lynette Long’s research into the Obama camp’s caucus fraud in Texas. Speaking of caucus fraud, how about Obama’s involvement with ACORN?
I am counting on you, Governor Rendell to do your truth squad duty!
Posted by: HP Boston | September 29, 2008, 9:55 am 9:55 am
Ken,
That is too funny! Can you remember who the surrogate was? Hilarious!
I used to think a McCain presidency wouldn’t be too bad, but after watching his impulsive actions over the last month I’m scared as heck!
Posted by: Southern Girl | September 29, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am
THE DEMOCRATS ARE MEAN SPIRITED AND HATEFUL TOWARDS WOMEN. I WILL BE MOVING MY HILLARY VOTE TO MCCAIN.
Posted by: TINA | Sep 29, 2008 9:01:45 AM
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It was the simple minded people like you that the Palin pick was aiming at. It’s too bad we need the votes of at least some of the lesser intellectually inclined to win. Go take a look at each states average IQ, then see what party they voted for. As the IQ average goes up they vote democrat and the opposite is also true. What’s extra funny is the swing states all have an average IQ level of 99; this seems to be the tipping point of intelligence.
Posted by: Creamsykle | September 29, 2008, 9:58 am 9:58 am
Dear Gov. Rendell,
Since I have read that you are now a member of Barack Obama’s truth squad, I am hoping that you will spread that sentiment both ways. I would like you to talk about Obama’s trip to Iraq and his conversation with Hoshyar Zebari which I and many other Americans is a violation of the Logan Act. I would also like you to bring to light his 500 thousand plus contributions from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. I would like you to tell your constituents about the Phillip Berg lawsuit which alleges Obama unqualified to run for President based on his dual citizenship. I would like you to relay the truth behind Obama’s questionable associations with convicted domestic terrorist William Ayers. Maybe show some of Reverand Wright’s sermons at your next press conference? Or perhaps bring up some facts from Dr. Lynette Long’s research into the Obama camp’s caucus fraud in Texas. Speaking of caucus fraud, how about Obama’s involvement with ACORN?
I am counting on you, Governor Rendell to do your truth squad duty!
Posted by: HP Boston | September 29, 2008, 9:59 am 9:59 am
To partially quote “My Friend” John McCain:
What Sarah Palin’s defenders don’t understand is that Barack Obama and Joe Biden HAVE been put through the wringer by the media many, many times.
However, they balance that by BEING AVAILABLE for interviews and questions. All that Palin has given the media are flubbed interviews. Without any good interviews to counterbalance this, then we are left to conclude that she really is a dingbat.
Hannity doesn’t count- it is obvious that he fed her the questions ahead of time.
Posted by: Concerned | September 29, 2008, 10:01 am 10:01 am
Palin will win the debate. She will parrot talking points when the right topics come up.
Memorable key words will spill out all over the TV.
Even if the topic of teaching pseudo-science like dinosaurs walking with men, like in the faith-based diorama in Kentucky, does come up, expect her to win over even more fundamentalists. After all, Palin is working with faith-based material, not logic that appeals to everyone. She doesnt have to appeal to everyone, just to the base. RIght now 3/4 of fundamentalists intend to vote for Palin-McCain. If she can make that 4/5ths, then maybe Palin-McCain wins in November.
Posted by: Bruce Becker | September 29, 2008, 10:02 am 10:02 am
A community organizer is OK.
An over zealous and crooked organizer is repulsive.
With the huge budget, the Axelrod machine stole all primary caucuses. They had the money to pay office and campaign staff, and ads.
The Obama network is beyond the regular campaign, it is everywhere and almost unstoppable, with a dire outlook.
Corruption and poor national defense will be the Obama legacy.
Palin and McCain are straight characters, and innocent Americans. Let us vote for them.
PS I was a Democrat, and still hate the conservative social myths.
Posted by: CommunityOrganizerOK | September 29, 2008, 10:02 am 10:02 am
I love how Republican women pretend they’re Hillary voters who are switching sides because Palin is being “beat up” by liberals. It’s the media beating up on Palin, including many conservative Republicans who are now calling for Palin to step down FOR THE GOOD OF THE COUNTRY. If Palin can’t take any scruntiny without crying about it or her supporters crying about it, she should’t be on the ticket. Women can’t argue that we should be treated as equals and then cry when we have to walk with the big dogs and take our licks like any other candidate.
You have to be extremely partisan to say Obama has been given a pass by the media. Rev. Wright was discussed nearly 24/7 on the news (all negative for Obama) for at least 6 weeks straight. On top of that the media dragged in Father Pfleger, Tony Rezko, and now some have even tried to tie Kwame Kilpatrick to Obama. So, what free pass are you talking about with Obama and the media?
It’s not a free pass. You’re just pissed that Americans have heard these stories and it didn’t give HRC and now it isn’t giving McCain an advantage. That’s the only way many of you would see the media as doing its job–if they take down Obama ON BEHALF OF MCCAIN BECAUSE MCCAIN CAN’T DO IT HIMSELF!!! The problem is that every American has heard the scandals/peolple I’ve already mentioned and Obama is still up in the polls.
People…THERE ARE NO MORE VOTES OUT THERE ON REV. WRIGHT, ETC. Find something new—How about a real issue?
And, again, Palin needs to take the scrutiny. We still no nothing about her and she could end up as President, if McCain’s elected and becomes incapcitated or dies. Get over it. She needs way more scrutiny. If she can’t take it, she should go back to Alaska. Obama and his wife have been taking major hits for more than 20 months! Get over yourselves.
Posted by: S. Williams | September 29, 2008, 10:03 am 10:03 am
Frankly, I wish that people who voted G. W. Bush twice would lose their voting rights or at the very least be subject to a small fine to help pay for the Wall Street bailout and the Iraq war. I admit to voting for him once, in 2000, but at least I learned my lesson and refused to vote for him again in 2004. I feel guilty enough for my first vote, but there appear to be a lot of people willing to risk the security of the nation — both domestically and internationally — by voting Republican once again. It boggles my mind.
Posted by: Southern Girl | September 29, 2008, 10:05 am 10:05 am
Ah Ah I I your right John numerous times, oh wait… let me interupt continuously because I am not mature enough to HOLD MY THOUGHT until it is my turn to speak!
My kids can do this, and he can’t. Yea, this is the guy I want in charge.
In GOD we trust, so take your liberal minded ass to France or anywhere but MY country
Posted by: Mike in MD | September 29, 2008, 10:05 am 10:05 am
I thought I would provide a link to back up my statement.
http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2004/US-Election-IQ2004.htm
However you can get average IQ by state from many other sources that will verify this.
Posted by: Creamsykle | September 29, 2008, 10:06 am 10:06 am
Thoren’s point is a good one.
Obama is winning big among college educated voters and Palin/McCain has the same big lead among voters who never attended college.
Remember, the average IQ is 100. That means 10′s of millions of registered voters have IQ’s in the 80′s and 90′s. They will not follow complex issues.
Palin’s D in macro-economics is appealing to those people, her constitutents in Alaska, which has the lowest percentage of college grads in the USA.
Posted by: Bruce Becker | September 29, 2008, 10:08 am 10:08 am
Posted by: Southern Girl | Sep 29, 2008 10:05:26 AM
I dont think you get it the wall street problems were not caused by bush But by the democrats
Posted by: reddog0216 | September 29, 2008, 10:09 am 10:09 am
Sarah Palin simply does NOT have the mental capabilities for the job. PERIOD. She is clueless. Nothing she does will prepare her because she just flat-out isn’t SMART enough.
Anybody who thinks otherwise is either just as stupid as SHE is, or you are deluding yourself because you are a racist pig.
She has proven that she has NO capacity for critical thinking. I mean come ON, folks. She still honestly thinks that since Alaska is next to Russia that it gives her foreign policy experience. How do you explain THAT nonsense?
Palin was elected by a bunch of YAY-HOO Alaskans. The majority of the Alaskan population is MEN. She won a beauty contest disquised as an election and now you think she has “experience”. Her popularity in Alaska is declining fast, I might add.
Obama is brilliant. He is SMART, he definitely has the mental capabilities to be president. The only problem I see is his color. So many of your arguments, that he isn’t experienced enough, or that he is stupid, or WHATEVER, are simply remarks made by STUPID RACISTS. It’s so transparent.
That is the ONLY reason Obama isn’t running away with this thing. A pretty pathetic testament to what kind of people live in this country, I might add. To racists, anybody of color is by definition stupid. That is SOOOOOO pathetic.
Obama can run intellectual circles around 99% of this country. FACT.
I’m sorry if this isn’t a “politically correct” comment. Sadly, it’s the TRUTH.
Posted by: mavisdarling | September 29, 2008, 10:09 am 10:09 am
I am just frustrated with the spins after spins by “stuck and single minded” republicans of Palin’s interview. Everybody makes mistakes and may not know everything. But to put new “buzz words” she learned from the masters randomly in a a sentence is not mistakes. It’s just plain stupidity and lack of inderstanding the meaning of the words in context.
Posted by: Deb | September 29, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am
Holly cow batman…what a joke.
American has become such a vacuous state devoid of any shred of intellectual and moral leadership. I’ll give the nod to Obama as the lesser of 2 evils, but if this is the best either party can muster, whew…we’re in trouble.
For a capitalist country to be teetering on the brink of financial collapse, it appears a very real possibility that America will go down in history as a relatively short lived experiment. A country built on the premise of freedom and equality ultimately undone by it’s own avarice and a lust for moral superiority.
Parlez-vous Canadian?
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In the beginning, man created god in his own image.
Posted by: thePauper | September 29, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am
Bruce, obviously your none to bright yourself! I would think Alaska has the lowest population too.
My wife and I are both well educated and we find it vexing that you cannot see through the haze!
Posted by: Mike in MD | September 29, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am
Just think about it. It is not the Americalns are reading or listing to Plain’s interview and some of the spiners view of Palin. It’s the whole world is watching. We still have not learned from the mistakes made from BUSH. It’s a very bad image for a country like USA that they can’t even pick a VP who can ONLY read when someone writes for her (as she did in the convention), but is unable to construct a good sentence with substance. It’s a shame.
Posted by: Deb | September 29, 2008, 10:21 am 10:21 am
Southern Girl:
Frankly, I wish that people who voted G. W. Bush twice would lose their voting rights or at the very least be subject to a small fine to help pay for the Wall Street bailout and the Iraq war.
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What next? reLearning camps. Nazi tried that before.
We Had financial bubbles before . People have such short memories Last bubble was the DOT COM bubble under Clinton watch. But Our market system corrected that and I am confident we’ll overcome this too And most people directly involved in this Mortagage Bubble have affiliation to Democrats.
McCain/ Palin 08
Posted by: vic | September 29, 2008, 10:23 am 10:23 am
Wow, the continued bias of uninformed people on this comment board continues to boggles the mind. It’s soooo easy to insert innuendo and make statements and try to sway people with garbage without taking any responsibility for seeking out the truth. Get the FACTS and VOTE, VOTE, VOTE!
Posted by: PleaseChange | September 29, 2008, 10:23 am 10:23 am
Mike, I wouldn’t be calling people out for being “none too bright”, if I were you.
You said “Bruce, obviously your none to bright yourself!”
Mike, if you want to say “you are” then you need to use the contraction “you’re” NOT
“your”. Also, another mistake: the word “to” used when you meant “too”.
You’re calling people stupid yet you obviously didn’t make it through third grade English yourself.
My point has been proven!!
Posted by: mavisdarling | September 29, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am
When will the republicans get it, that they can no longer nominate morons for office? Sarah Palin is a moron and McCain is another for choosing her as his running mate.
Posted by: George | September 29, 2008, 10:26 am 10:26 am
Mike, explain why this is your country and doesn’t belong to those who might differ in opinion with you. Isn’t this what a democracy is about?
Posted by: richard | September 29, 2008, 10:26 am 10:26 am
You’re a gasbag. Get to the point.
Posted by: joe | September 29, 2008, 10:27 am 10:27 am
I sense that Sarah Palin is a likable person, but I seriously don’t think she should be a heartbeat away from the presidency. This was a hypocritical “celebrity” pick for McCain that gathers attention, but is not worthy of a serious vote of confidence.Surely there could have been a more qualified woman that McCain could have picked.
When a president picks his vice president we should have confindence that this person could run the country”just in case.” I see that with Biden and I do not with Palin. Two months on the national scene is not enough vetting and despite all the conservative and female interest in this VP pick, for what she brings it was a bad pick! She’s not going to win any votes.All she is doing is giving those people who refuse to vote for an African African another lame excuse not to vote for the clearly best ticket that is Obama-Biden.
Posted by: TV | September 29, 2008, 10:29 am 10:29 am
I find it amusing that Mike THINKS he’s educated. Mike doesn’t even have basic elementary school grammar skills. Is it any wonder that a person like Sarah Palin was somehow able to “get” a college degree??
Posted by: mavisdarling | September 29, 2008, 10:30 am 10:30 am
When I say get the facts, this might be a good place to start:
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/does_barack_obama_have_kenyan_citizenship.html
Posted by: PleaseChange | September 29, 2008, 10:30 am 10:30 am
“American has become such a vacuous state devoid of any shred of intellectual and moral leadership. I’ll give the nod to Obama as the lesser of 2 evils, but if this is the best either party can muster, whew…we’re in trouble.”
My guess is you wouldn’t know leadership if it bit you in the butt.
Parlez vous latin?
damnant quodnon intelligunt.
Posted by: John Carpenter | September 29, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am
Bristol’s wedding will be announced in or around the debate in order to shape public opinion of her. More smokescreens.
Posted by: tj | September 29, 2008, 10:34 am 10:34 am
James Terry, Chief Public Advocate for the Consumers Rights League, today testified at a joint House Administration and House Judiciary Committee oversight hearing on “Federal, State and Local Efforts to Prepare for the General 2008 Election,” where he highlighted “corruption at every level of ACORN including embezzlement, cover-ups, misuse of taxpayer funds and voter fraud.” An excerpt of his testimony follows:
http://www.consumersrightsleague.org/news/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=23729
and more …
http://www.consumersrightsleague.org/news/DocumentQuery.aspx?DocumentTypeID=730
Here is a definition of “martial law” as it applies to congressional rules
“The Leadership apparently intends to use a process known as “martial law” to allow these bills to be brought to the floor very shortly after negotiations are completed, with the result that Members of the House are likely to have virtually no time to examine and consider the details of the legislation before they will be required to vote on it.”
http://www.cbpp.org/7-28-06bud-stmt.htm
Posted by: HP Boston | September 29, 2008, 10:35 am 10:35 am
I also sense that McCain is likable and wants whats good for this country, but fails to understand what is needed and better for this country.A metaphor for McCain and Obama would be McCain is the telegraph and Obama is high speed internet.Both work and would serve a purpose but the internet is clearly more effective.
Posted by: TV | September 29, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am
mavisdarling Being educated has nothing to do with common sense or intelligence
Posted by: reddog0216 | September 29, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am
she will smile, she will nod, she will be pithy and charming, and she will talk ad nauseum and say nothing of substance. This is about qualified and not, and Biden has won that already, so this debate will devolve into a popularity contest, and Biden is no cheerleader.
Posted by: Danny | September 29, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am
This financial crisis, gas crisis and unemployment crisis all stand to erode the American standard of living. However, the ignorance and bigotry displayed during this election proves that our educational/intelligence crisis far outweigh anything else to ensure the demise of our nation.
Anyone with an ounce of common sense would know that we are heading down the wrong path, a path toward collapse. Yet, we would rather ensure our eventual doom, than give up our idiotic bigotry.
This is a sure sign of a nation which has gone mad. History will record that twice in America’s history that racism took us to the brink of destruction…the Civil War and the 2008 Election.
Posted by: Dean N | September 29, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am
When I say get the facts, this might be a good place to start:
http://www.factcheck.org/.html
Posted by: PleaseChange | Sep 29, 2008 10:30:44 AM
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POVERTY PIMP!
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Posted by: HP Boston | September 29, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am
Oooh, I can’t WAIT for Bristol Palin’s wedding!!
It just warms my heart to see a pregnant teenage bride. What could possibly be more wholesome and all-American than THAT?
Posted by: mavisdarling | September 29, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am
reddog0216:
You make a quite a sweeping statement, you may consider yourself an oracle but the rest of us see you as human. Care to show why Bush isn’t responsible and “the democrats” are or is that something you were told and do not understand.
Once Sarah Palin leaves Alaska she is out of her element. She reached her pinnacle as a hamlet mayor a few years ago.
Posted by: Ronnn | September 29, 2008, 10:41 am 10:41 am
Dear Gov. Rendell,
Since I have read that you are now a member of Barack Obama’s truth squad, I am hoping that you will spread that sentiment both ways. I would like you to talk about Obama’s trip to Iraq and his conversation with Hoshyar Zebari which I and many other Americans is a violation of the Logan Act. I would also like you to bring to light his 500 thousand plus contributions from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. I would like you to tell your constituents about the Phillip Berg lawsuit which alleges Obama unqualified to run for President based on his dual citizenship. I would like you to relay the truth behind Obama’s questionable associations with convicted domestic terrorist William Ayers. Maybe show some of Reverand Wright’s sermons at your next press conference? Or perhaps bring up some facts from Dr. Lynette Long’s research into the Obama camp’s caucus fraud in Texas. Speaking of caucus fraud, how about Obama’s involvement with ACORN?
I am counting on you, Governor Rendell to do your truth squad duty!
Posted by: HP Boston | September 29, 2008, 10:41 am 10:41 am
Give it up, HP Boston. Obama studied at Harvard. Palin is lucky to be able to spell that. Given the state this country is in you’d have to be an absolute moron to vote Republican. And we women are offended that the GOP decided not to nominate a qualified candidate who happens to be female. They do exist but none appeal as much to the whack job religious right.
Posted by: Wisconsinite | September 29, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am
Posted by: Dean N | Sep 29, 2008 10:38:54 AM
The financial crisis was started by democrats That is a fact!The democrats love the high price of gasoline it makes people be more resopsible for how they choose things like engery star fuel economy etc…They have been blocking Refineries for years in the name of the enviroment.Unemployment is high but not a crisis yet
Posted by: reddog0216 | September 29, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am
It’s simply not true that education has nothing to do with intelligence. You can bet there is a high correlation with IQ and higher academic performance not to mention a greater understanding of the topic being studied(that’s what an education means).
Now, of course, not all educated persons have common sense. But common sense will not give you what education will with the sciences: accounting, economics, math, etc.)
Posted by: richard | September 29, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am
Poor Sarah – all dressed up and nowhere to go. McCain’s use of this woman is utterly shameless. She’s his ‘get out the vote’ hand puppet.
Apparently the PUMA ranks are shrinking. They seem to be inbreeding. This Berg lawsuit is like catnip to them. I think its time for them to find some other cause for their victimization.
Posted by: Bill | September 29, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am
Wisconsinite
McCain vs Obama
Palin Vs biden
Posted by: reddog0216 | September 29, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am
One of the skill Palin will have to develop before she becomes president is to construct a sentence in comprehensible English when she is not repeating a talking point of reading a speech.
I suppose if Bush can do it Palin can.
Palin is an intelligent person I suspect but her lack of education whether she is a college graduate or not is apparent.
Posted by: Ronnn | September 29, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am
Anybody with even a shred of common sense knows that being able to see Russia from an island in your state does NOT qualify you as an expert in foreign policy.
Sarah Palin is not only STOOOPID, she has NO COMMON SENSE, either.
Posted by: mavisdarling | September 29, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am
As a lifelong Republican, I can say that me and all of my friends (also repugs) are voting for the Obama ticket with no reservations. This woman should be home with her kids. And that’s not sexist! Her place is home until that is taken care of. Hilary was the right woman, not this one. I’m part of the Republican base and believe me, all of us conservative people are trying to get this choice reconsidered and she has not energized the base. IF the media weren’t so much in the tank for McSame, there would be a whole lot of attention as to how this woman is so unprepared to be President. So, for the first time ever, I am voting Democrat. Funny how Sen. Obama seems much more in line with my traditional values. This Republican finally sees the truth!
Posted by: Buzzer | September 29, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am
“BOLD?”
More like stupid gambling with America’s future.
Is that change we can believe in?
No my friends, McCain is the same we can’t believe in.
Remember how strong the fundamentals were so short a time ago?
Remember the I don’t know how many houses I have idiocy?
Obama my be yound ga and untired but McCain is tried TIRED and worn out.
Posted by: M. Tobias | September 29, 2008, 10:58 am 10:58 am
Obama was wrong to ever preface a statemet by saying “John McCain is right” Bad debate form. The smart wording would have been: “John agrees with me that…”. Much better to make the other person agree with you than to agree with him. Other than that McCain came off as the popular (but dumb) jock running for student body president.
Posted by: Bob Noll | September 29, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am
Ronnn
Did You read it did you see the facts????
Posted by: reddog0216 | September 29, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am
Reddog:
You made the statement, you need to support it. If you do not understand the issue well enough then tell us that. My purpose was to have the evidence here not on another website.
You made the statement and it is so sweeping that it can not possibly be true. But if you prefer to leave your ignorant remark stand as is, that is fine with me.
Posted by: Ronnn | September 29, 2008, 11:02 am 11:02 am
The CRA was passed by the 95th United States Congress and signed into law by President Jimmy Carter in 1977 as a result of national grassroots pressure for affordable housing, and despite considerable opposition from the mainstream banking community.[1] Only one banker, Ron Grzywinski from ShoreBank in Chicago, testified in favor of the act.[2] The CRA mandates that each banking institution be evaluated to determine if it has met the credit needs of its entire community. That record is taken into account when the federal government considers an institution’s application for deposit facilities, including mergers and acquisitions after the Riegle-Neal Interstate Banking and Branching Efficiency Act of 1994 repealed restrictions on interstate banking.[3] However, until 1995 the Act was laxly enforced and banks only were required to advertise in local minority newspapers or sit on the boards of local community groups.[4] The CRA is enforced by the financial regulators (Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (“FDIC”), Office of the Comptroller of the Currency (“OCC”), Office of Thrift Supervision (“OTS”), and the Federal Reserve System).[citation needed]
The bill encouraged mortgage lending through two government sponsored enterprises (“GSEs”). One, the Federal National Mortgage Association, commonly known as Fannie Mae, enables mortgage companies, savings and loans, commercial banks, credit unions, and state and local housing finance agencies to lend to home buyers. The other, the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation, commonly known as Freddie Mac, buys mortgages on the secondary market and sell them as mortgage-backed securities on the open market.[5] It also charged the Federal Reserve System to implement the CRA through ensuring banks and savings and loans met their CRA obligations.[3]
Clinton Administration Changes of 1995
In early 1993 President Bill Clinton ordered new regulations for the CRA which would increase access to mortgage credit for inner city and distressed rural communities.[7] The new rules went into effect on January 31, 1995 and featured: requiring strictly numerical assessments to get a satisfactory CRA rating; using federal home-loan data broken down by neighborhood, income group, and race; encouraging community groups to complain when banks were not loaning enough to specified neighborhood, income group, and race; allowing community groups that marketed loans to target to groups to collect a fee from the banks.[4][6]
The new rules, during a time when many banks were merging and needed to pass the CRA review process to do so, substantially increased the number and aggregate amount of loans to low- and moderate-income borrowers for home loans, some of which were “risky mortgages.” Banks set up CRA departments, a CRA consultant industry was created and new financial-services firms helped banks invest in packaged portfolios of CRA loans to ensure compliance. Established and new community groups began marketing such mortgages. The Senate Banking Committee estimated that as of 2000, as a result of CRA, such groups had received $9.5 billion in services and salaries. As of that time such groups also had received tens of billions of dollars in multi-year commitments from banks, including ACORN Housing $760 million; Boston-based Neighborhood Assistance Corporation of America $3 billion; a New Jersey Citizen Action-led coalition $13 billion; the Massachusetts Affordable Housing Alliance $220 million.[4] The number of CRA mortgage loans increased by 39 percent between 1993 and 1998, while other loans increased by only 17 percent.[8][9]
Related rule changes gave Fannie and Freddie extraordinary leverage, allowing them to hold just 2.5% of capital to back their investments, vs. 10% for banks, encouraging banks to make even more loans to low income communities, often with no down payment and little documentation. By 2007, Fannie and Freddie owned or guaranteed nearly half of the $12 trillion U.S. mortgage market.[5] Due to massive financial losses, on September 7, 2008 the Federal Housing Finance Agency (FHFA) put Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac under the conservatorship of the FHFA.[10]
Posted by: reddog0216 | September 29, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am
There are the facts plain and simple
Posted by: reddog0216 | September 29, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am
most of the first 25 presidents didnt know much about foreign policy either.
as for Sarah Palin that may be a good thing.
at least she’s not in a 35 year rut like Biden.
personally think that if she were a certified babbling idiot, she’d be better that what we have in washington today.
though i dont agree with all her religious beliefs there hers not mine.
and i remember small town values in hicksville USA.
we were raised to be proud of our country, our school, our city, our county, and our states.
thats my 3 cents………….
Posted by: ffox909 | September 29, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am
Clinton Administration Changes of 1995
In early 1993 President Bill Clinton ordered new regulations for the CRA which would increase access to mortgage credit for inner city and distressed rural communities.[7] The new rules went into effect on January 31, 1995 and featured: requiring strictly numerical assessments to get a satisfactory CRA rating; using federal home-loan data broken down by neighborhood, income group, and race; encouraging community groups to complain when banks were not loaning enough to specified neighborhood, income group, and race; allowing community groups that marketed loans to target to groups to collect a fee from the banks.[4][6]
The new rules, during a time when many banks were merging and needed to pass the CRA review process to do so, substantially increased the number and aggregate amount of loans to low- and moderate-income borrowers for home loans, some of which were “risky mortgages.” Banks set up CRA departments, a CRA consultant industry was created and new financial-services firms helped banks invest in packaged portfolios of CRA loans to ensure compliance. Established and new community groups began marketing such mortgages. The Senate Banking Committee estimated that as of 2000, as a result of CRA, such groups had received $9.5 billion in services and salaries. As of that time such groups also had received tens of billions of dollars in multi-year commitments from banks, including ACORN Housing $760 million; Boston-based Neighborhood Assistance Corporation of America $3 billion; a New Jersey Citizen Action-led coalition $13 billion; the Massachusetts Affordable Housing Alliance $220 million.[4] The number of CRA mortgage loans increased by 39 percent between 1993 and 1998, while other loans increased by only 17 percent.[8][9]
Related rule changes gave Fannie and Freddie extraordinary leverage, allowing them to hold just 2.5% of capital to back their investments, vs. 10% for banks, encouraging banks to make even more loans to low income communities, often with no down payment and little documentation. By 2007, Fannie and Freddie owned or guaranteed nearly half of the $12 trillion U.S. mortgage market.[5] Due to massive financial losses, on September 7, 2008 the Federal Housing Finance Agency (FHFA) put Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac under the conservatorship of the FHFA.[10]
Posted by: reddog0216 | September 29, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am
Sarah Palin is a gifted orator.
She will beat Biden handedly.
Let us not forget to set the bar properly for Mrs. Palin.
Posted by: PulSamsara | September 29, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am
Hey this is what deregulators wanted to do
In 2002 there was an interagency review of the effectiveness of the 1995 regulatory changes to the Community Reinvestment Act and new proposals were considered.[6] In related 2003 proposals, the Bush Administration recommended that a new Department of the Treasury agency should supervise the primary agents guaranteeing subprime loans, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Congressional support was approximately split along Party lines and the proposal eventually failed.[11] The New York Times, calling Barney Frank “the ranking Democrat on the House Financial Services Committee,” quoted his opposition to the changes: “These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis. The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.”[12]
The Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC), the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, and the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency put new regulations into effect September of 2005. [13] The regulations were opposed by a contingent of Democrats[14]
The regulations included less restrictive new definitions of “small” and “intermediate small” banks.[3] “Intermediate small banks” were defined as banks with assets of less than $1 billion, but allows banks to opt for examination as a large bank.[13] Currently banks with assets greater than $1.061 billion have their CRA performance evaluated according to lending, investment and service tests. The agencies use the Consumer Price Index to adjust the asset size thresholds for small and large institutions annually
Posted by: reddog0216 | September 29, 2008, 11:18 am 11:18 am
simply said banks were forced by the democrats to take on bad loans which led to the crisis
Posted by: reddog0216 | September 29, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am
Everyone ready for this Thursday’s debate?
I believe that in this week’s debate, Sarah Palin’s true colors would show: her lack of ability and knowledge to support the United States as Vice President. Her interview with Kathy Couric clearly proves it. I do respect the fact that she is a woman running for office, but what matters is whether or not she is suitable for the position. George W. Bush (our Republican President, a.k.a. the party Sarah Palin belongs to in this election) said: “Americans will look closely at the judgment, the experience, and the policies of candidates…” in the Republican National Convention on September 2nd. If Sarah Palin doesn’t come strong on very important issues like foreign policy, how can we expect her to be a good Vice President?
I learned a lot about Sarah Palin at http://www.dailysource.org/palin
Posted by: Annonymous | September 29, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am
Obama has no idea how he sounds when he calls McCain’s reaction to the bailout to Katrina, he says Mccain just stood there like FEMA and Bush…….
he has no shame, and by the way does this sound familiar when Obama didnt go at first to the Gustav
hurrican area in was it, parts of Mississippi? (will give him credit, he did go to the Houston astrodome where some of the victims were housed)
Obama said then, “There was no magic reason why now instead of earlier. We didn’t want to come down here unless there was something concrete and productive to do.”
In describing his rationale for not visiting the Gulf Coast this week, Obama said the “tail” of his staff, traveling media, Secret Service and local authorities could get in the way of hurricane-relief initiatives.
The Illinois senator noted this week that he has had conversations with Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal (R), New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin, and the head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency about Gustav.
Obama’s running mate, Sen. Joseph Biden (D-Del.), was also among the senators who had not visited New Orleans or the surrounding areas at the six-month anniversary of Katrina.
Grilled about it on “Meet the Press” by the late Tim Russert, the loquacious Biden paused several seconds before answering that he didn’t want to appear to be grandstanding. Shortly after that interview, Biden toured the Gulf Coast.
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But to even bring up a comparison to Katrina is
Posted by: HP Boston | September 29, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am
Dear Gov. Rendell,
Since I have read that you are now a member of Barack Obama’s truth squad, I am hoping that you will spread that sentiment both ways. I would like you to talk about Obama’s trip to Iraq and his conversation with Hoshyar Zebari which I and many other Americans is a violation of the Logan Act. I would also like you to bring to light his 500 thousand plus contributions from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. I would like you to tell your constituents about the Phillip Berg lawsuit which alleges Obama unqualified to run for President based on his dual citizenship. I would like you to relay the truth behind Obama’s questionable associations with convicted domestic terrorist William Ayers. Maybe show some of Reverand Wright’s sermons at your next press conference? Or perhaps bring up some facts from Dr. Lynette Long’s research into the Obama camp’s caucus fraud in Texas. Speaking of caucus fraud, how about Obama’s involvement with ACORN?
I am counting on you, Governor Rendell to do your truth squad duty!
Posted by: HP Boston | September 29, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am
They called me today, asking who I am voting for…of course I told them THE ONE…OBAMA, even tho, when I walk into the booth I will be voting McCain. These pollsters make me laugh.
Posted by: Thotman | September 29, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am
Obama, McCain, Biden or Palin…..it does not matter which one you vote for in November. They all agree to expand the Middle East conflict at the cost of American lives and at the cost to American taxpayers. It is no different then when President Carter (term of Presidency 1977-1981) said the United States must control the Persian Gulf because it is the hub of oil. Washington had more than thirty years to correct the United States oil shortages problem that showed its ugly head during the Carter administration and did nothing.
Obama quote, “This is not an easy situation. You’ve got cross-border attacks against U.S. troops,” Obama added. “And we’ve got a choice. We could allow our troops to just be on the defensive and absorb those blows again and again and again, if Pakistan is unwilling to cooperate, or we have to start making some decisions.”
Obama agrees with imperialistic ideas. This is a dangerous man ready to strike out at any country for his own mislead principles. Obama proved in Missouri that he has complete disregard for the Bill Of Rights and that he must grow up to real facts.
Obama’s position on cross-border raids sounds similar to the one stated by Palin last night, although Palin did not explicitly say whether she would support raids without the Pakistani government’s permission. When asked in her interview with ABC News’ Charles Gibson this month whether the U.S. has the right to go into Pakistan without the approval of the Pakistani government, Palin said, “that the U.S. has to “exercise all options.”
The oil problem is a United States problem and not Iraq’s or Pakistan‘s problem. The oil problem is every American’s problem. Strict conservation can cut American oil consumption by 65%. American’s fill the highways with their cars with no consideration of self-restraints and conservation. We are a greedy people ready to destroy the common good of man for our own needs.
Do not point the finger at President Bush. Point the finger at yourself, look into a mirror, and ask, how many people must die before I correct my decadence. The next time you use your car think of the innocent people that die so you can drive somewhere. Moreover, know the truth that it is not just a 9/11 or otherworld problem. Americans kill their own sons for OIL. Send the message loud and clear, GET OUT OF THE MIDDLE EAST. Vote for a President that says, GET OUT OF THE MIDDLE EAST and make them keep their PROMISE.
The financial crisis is American people spending money they did not have, buying everything on credit. That is another story that is blaming President Bush, the banking system, Wall Street, regulation, deregulation or whatever. Again, the American people do not know self-restraints.
Yes, I am a natural born American citizen that served my country honorable in the United States Army and I strongly believe in the American Constitution and The Bill Of Rights. Obama is not the answer and John McCain is not the answer. The answers lay with the American people taking control of themselves and taking control of THEIR government by being constantly alert to what is really happening in Washington.
Posted by: Judge | September 29, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am
Anyway….
The Dems are sexist because McCain called his ex’s a c—. (was that before or after he divorced her while she was still in the hospital?)
The Media is liberal because Fox News is the most watched news channel, while AirAmerica can barely hang on.
The financial crisis is the Dems fault because McCain was in favor of deregulating the banks and was part of The Keating Five.
The Dems are Socialists because the Repubs are in favor of buying (thus nationalizing) the Banks and handing out huge subsidies to the likes of GM and Big Agriculture.
Rev Wright is a nut job (well, he is!!) because Palin was protected from witchcraft and from her pastor.
Posted by: palinslist.org | September 29, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am
Ronnn
where did you go? The statements are supported like most obama supporters duck the facts
Posted by: reddog0216 | September 29, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am
From Tonny hutabarat (Silent no More)
http://www.PojokIndonesia.com
She can make a different, she gonna be one of them who’s relly on God help.
She gonna be a Winner.
GBU Mc Cain & Palin, we always pray for u
Posted by: Tonny hutabarat | September 29, 2008, 11:34 am 11:34 am
Sigh. Where are we?
For eight years we have patiently waited for the small child to yell out, “the Emperor has no clothes.” And Palin comes along to make it all even more theater of the absurd.
Come on, she is unqualified. Read David Brooks, Andrew Sullivan, and now Kathleen Sullivan. Forget what sane Democrats think .. who are all too timid anyway.
It is all Roman Circus. Serve up to the people what will amuse them. These lists are filled with people of no sense.
The really sad fact is that Biden cannot win on Thursday. If a woman wants to compete on Thursday night, do it on common ground. Don’t tell me you can’t say that to a woman.
McCain was attack dog number one. And if Biden emulates this .. watch the silly howls of indignation. Just watch.
Posted by: Phil | September 29, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am
Reddog0216
That does not explain the mortgage mess that occurred at Bear Sterns that according to a Wall Street front page article was caused by failure of the SEC to properly regulate Bear Stearns. All of the mortgages that were fraudulent mortgages created in 2005, 2006 and 2007 came about because of a failure by the Bush administration to create the proper regulatory structure to regulate the non-bank entities that were lending. That is what I know off the top of my head. I think however the principal culprit was Greenspan.
All that you blamed on the Democrats can also be shared by the Republicans for there were five years where they controlled both the legislature and the executive and nothing was done to correct it.
If you want to start blaming real good you could go back to Lyndon Johnson who created Fannie and Freddie, it was a poor business model at the start.
Fannie and Freddie are not the cause of this mess. That problem was handle a few weeks ago. What we have is the unwinding of financial assets that were created on a false premise and now a mountain of credit will fall. It was predictable. Warren Buffett and others had done so and Bush’s failure to regulate made the problem worse.
This is a mess and there are lots of people responsible. Going forward there will need to be further regulation particularly when interest rates are dropped very low and this regulation will have to be done discriminately so that our economy is not choked off.
Yes there were members of both parties that were creators of this mess. But when something goes wrong it is the job of the president to show leadership on the problem and Bush failed to do so.
reddog0216:
You are talking about an economic and financial problem as if it were solely a political problem. If you want to talk about the subject you are going to have to talk about it from a broader perspective.
Posted by: Ronnn | September 29, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am
Ronnn
This is from the so called deregulators
In 2002 there was an interagency review of the effectiveness of the 1995 regulatory changes to the Community Reinvestment Act and new proposals were considered.[6] In related 2003 proposals, the Bush Administration recommended that a new Department of the Treasury agency should supervise the primary agents guaranteeing subprime loans, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Congressional support was approximately split along Party lines and the proposal eventually failed.[11] The New York Times, calling Barney Frank “the ranking Democrat on the House Financial Services Committee,” quoted his opposition to the changes: “These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis. The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.”[12]
The Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC), the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, and the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency put new regulations into effect September of 2005. [13] The regulations were opposed by a contingent of Democrats[14]
The regulations included less restrictive new definitions of “small” and “intermediate small” banks.[3] “Intermediate small banks” were defined as banks with assets of less than $1 billion, but allows banks to opt for examination as a large bank.[13] Currently banks with assets greater than $1.061 billion have their CRA performance evaluated according to lending, investment and service tests. The agencies use the Consumer Price Index to adjust the asset size thresholds for small and large institutions annually
Posted by: reddog0216 | September 29, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am
Gov. Palin lives next to Alaska and Canada. I live between Cnada and Mexico. I know a lot more about Mexico and Canada’s politics, people and culture than I do about Russia’s. Is it fair to assume Gov. Palin knows a little more about Russia than I do?
Posted by: Deborah Harry | September 29, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm
Its not soley a political problem people who bought houses need to take some resposibility here they drove the market up and up.Then failed to live up to there agreement in paying the mortgage To say fannie and freddie are not the problem is navie they sold these mortgages to banks after they held them for the required 45 day period.
Do you know how the assigned risk works in the auto insurance industry ?It guarntees people will get insurance and they push it on to companies that have no choice but to take it driving our rates up.It is the same policy
Posted by: reddog0216 | September 29, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm
what is wrong with voting for common people “like us”?
There is nothing wrong with this, and this is why America is great. I really like that Palin is a go-getter that went from PTA to Governor and that can have a family while working. I do respect that a lot. However please consider this. When you are sick and need surgery, do you want your cousin to operate on you or someone that is excellent at this? when you apply for a job, do you want your CEO to be just like you and have no real knowledge of future technology or do you want someone that has been keeping up with news and future?
Years in government and education help but I do not think a person that went to Harvard or Princeton are better than someone that did not go to college. However, a lot MORE people that went to those schools tend to be smarter and more intellectually curious. I knew that Bush went to Yale and I still think he was not ready for President given his non sense answers with a lack of understanding of complex issues. I know some people that have not gone to college that are brilliant and understand what is going on much better. When it comes to Palin I have to judge based on her responses to complex issues that will affect us everyday. I do not know how you can HONESTLY look at her economy and foreign policy responses and say that this person has ANY ANY ANY idea of what she is talking about? People, this is our future. Please try to make sense of what she is saying and remember yourself in an operating room with your cousin trying to save you…
Posted by: annoyedvoter | September 29, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
reddog0216, there are other things going on in this world and here is only part of it.
You and I are having a cultural struggle because you are wishing to blame someone and I am only interesting in blaming if by pointing out the culprit so we can solve the problem.
We need more regulation. I know regulation is both good and bad. Obama is a compromiser. He supported death penalty in a rape case, he voted for the 2005 energy bill and for the intelligence bill. These are things that I do not agree with him but I know he understands the big picture and has a desire to get things accomplished and that he will move toward non punitive regulation.
McCain has been burdened by a history of opposing regulation. The man himself, though very nasty, is capable of changing position. He did it many times in the past two weeks. But he has as his allies, the Republicans in the house who on this crisis have behaved like idiots. For McCain to get anything done he will be carrying around these idiots so McCain will be able to accomplish little.
This is why I favor Obama. Not because he has ultra left wing economic policy. It is because he is not so radical that I favor him. I know he will compromise.
My retirement money comes from the market and during Bush’s 8 years the market is down around !0% as things stand at this time. That is much less than the threefold rise during Clinton. Use some common sense, reddog, the difference in market outcome must say something that contradicts your perception of right and wrong.
I do not try to change your mind only to let you know that it is possible to support Obama and use common sense and intelligence. I think that is a foreign concept and you need to get out and meet more people who have different backgrounds than you.
Posted by: Ronnn | September 29, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm
reddog0216, there are other things going on in this world and here is only part of it.
You and I are having a cultural struggle because you are wishing to blame someone and I am only interesting in blaming if by pointing out the culprit so we can solve the problem.
We need more regulation. I know regulation is both good and bad. Obama is a compromiser. He supported death penalty in a rape case, he voted for the 2005 energy bill and for the intelligence bill. These are things that I do not agree with him but I know he understands the big picture and has a desire to get things accomplished and that he will move toward non punitive regulation.
McCain has been burdened by a history of opposing regulation. The man himself, though very nasty, is capable of changing position. He did it many times in the past two weeks. But he has as his allies, the Republicans in the house who on this crisis have behaved like idiots. For McCain to get anything done he will be carrying around these idiots so McCain will be able to accomplish little.
This is why I favor Obama. Not because he has ultra left wing economic policy. It is because he is not so radical that I favor him. I know he will compromise.
My retirement money comes from the market and during Bush’s 8 years the market is down around !0% as things stand at this time. That is much less than the threefold rise during Clinton. Use some common sense, reddog, the difference in market outcome must say something that contradicts your perception of right and wrong.
I do not try to change your mind only to let you know that it is possible to support Obama and use common sense and intelligence. I think that is a foreign concept and you need to get out and meet more people who have different backgrounds than you.
Posted by: Ronnn | September 29, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm
Gov. Blunt Statement on Obama Campaign’s Abusive Use of Missouri Law Enforcement
JEFFERSON CITY – Gov. Matt Blunt today issued the following statement on news reports that have exposed plans by U.S. Senator Barack Obama to use Missouri law enforcement to threaten and intimidate his critics.
“St. Louis County Circuit Attorney Bob McCulloch, St. Louis City Circuit Attorney Jennifer Joyce, Jefferson County Sheriff Glenn Boyer, and Obama and the leader of his Missouri campaign Senator Claire McCaskill have attached the stench of police state tactics to the Obama-Biden campaign.
“What Senator Obama and his helpers are doing is scandalous beyond words, the party that claims to be the party of Thomas Jefferson is abusing the justice system and offices of public trust to silence political criticism with threats of prosecution and criminal punishment.
“This abuse of the law for intimidation insults the most sacred principles and ideals of Jefferson. I can think of nothing more offensive to Jefferson’s thinking than using the power of the state to deprive Americans of their civil rights. The only conceivable purpose of Messrs. McCulloch, Obama and the others is to frighten people away from expressing themselves, to chill free and open debate, to suppress support and donations to conservative organizations targeted by this anti-civil rights, to strangle criticism of Mr. Obama, to suppress ads about his support of higher taxes, and to choke out criticism on television, radio, the Internet, blogs, e-mail and daily conversation about the election.
“Barack Obama needs to grow up. Leftist blogs and others in the press constantly say false things about me and my family. Usually, we ignore false and scurrilous accusations because the purveyors have no credibility. When necessary, we refute them. Enlisting Missouri law enforcement to intimidate people and kill free debate is reminiscent of the Sedition Acts – not a free society.”
Posted by: HP Boston | September 29, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
Buzzer: “As a lifelong Republican…”
It’s my observation that about 95% of the time, anonymous comments like yours are entirely false. Let’s just take a look:
1. I have never seen a Republican refer to himself or herself as a “repug”. Looks more like your true bias slipped out there. Oops!
2. “Hilary [sic] was the right woman, not this one.” Yes, of course, that’s what all the Republican base has been saying since, oh, never.
3. “…all of us conservative people are trying to get this choice reconsidered and she has not energized the base.” Yeah, right, can you imagine just how much more fired up the base would be with Joe Lieberman? Neither can I.
4. I’ve also not seen many (if any) self-described Republicans use the term “McSame”. And I don’t know any who think the media are “in the tank” for Sen. McCain.
5. “Funny how Sen. Obama seems much more in line with my traditional values.” Such as what, exactly?
“This Republican finally sees the truth!” Whatever. I assert that you aren’t a Republican, and you have never been. Please find some new talking points to astroturf everywhere. Bye :)
Posted by: snowed in | September 29, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
THERE IS A BETTING POOL AT WORK TODAY!!
We are all betting whether or not Palin runs crying from the stage in shame in Thursday’s debate with Joe Biden.
I picked the 65 minute square, but there are several squares left. One at 45 minutes and a couple at around the 70 minute mark, what do you guys think I should do?
Do you think the 65 minute square is a safe bet??
Oh also there was a pool just started on whether she just cries and doesn’t run from the stage, I got the 42 minute square there….
Like a moose in the headlights, with lipstick!!!
On another note did you all see Sarah in a bikini in video of her 1984 Miss Alaska beauty contest?? I think she should just wear that outfit on the stage with Biden, that should really throw him off!!!!
Posted by: Davis | September 29, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm
The culprit is the democrats and by pointing that out is blaming Obama because he was there to avoid this mess and yet he stood on the sideline and did nothing thats why I Point blame.Here is an excat instance that McCain tried to regulate and yet people dismiss it why? If you are concerned abot the markets and you say they went up three fold they went up under clinton10th Worst Stock Market Crash:
Date Started: 1/15/2000
Date Ended: 10/9/2002
Total Days: 999
Starting DJIA: 11,792.98
Ending DJIA: 7,286.27
Total Loss: -37.8%
Posted by: reddog0216 | September 29, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
This bailout has to do with derivatives which were hedging techniques that were created to offset risk. The problem is that they were leveraged and as all of these assets unwound because the housing market deteriorated all over the country at once. There is also the fear of the unwinding of other debt obligations like credit cards etc.
This bailout will not affect Freddie or Fannie. If your point is they were involved in the creation of this problem I agree but the magnitude and depth of this problem is far greater than them. They were simply the tip of the iceberg. Though the Republican’s denied it there was too much debt in the system. Housing prices went too high and the Fed just ignored it.
I do not know anything about auto insurance but I am confident that you only see the problem from a narrow perspective which is what makes McCain appealing because that is what he is doing in this campaign. Obama sees things from a broader perspective and that is why he can be trusted and McCain can not.
Posted by: Ronnn | September 29, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm
SARAH PALIN WAS ONLY PICKED BY McCAIN, age72. SARAH PALIN IS NOT READDY TO BE VICE PRESIDENT. THE BEST THING SARAH PALIN CAN DO NOW FOR PARTY AND COUNTRY IS TO DROP OUT OF THE RACE. IN 2012 ON, THE MEMBERS OF THE GIVEN PARTY MUST ALSO VOTE FOR THE VICE PRESIDENT CANDIDATE OF THEIR PARTY ACCOUNT WE CANNOT HAVE SARAH PALINS OUT OF THE BLUE SKY.
Posted by: PATRICK HENRY | September 29, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
You still dont get it the rise in the cost of housing was a direct effect of sub prime mortgages.If more people are qualfied to buy a house thet equals demand then rising cost simple supply and demand correct.Fannie and freddie sold these sub prime mortgages to these banks that are folding where do you not see the connection
Posted by: reddog0216 | September 29, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
reddog0216 you can not see beyond the tip off your nose. I gave you a chance to open up your mind. You refuse. From the bottom of the market in 2002 till now is up 25%. That takes away all of the responsibility for that drop from Bush which is not warranted. If you think I will argue back and forth with someone who is so authoritarian that he can’t conceive that the world is more complex than you will ever understand. Also the fact that the market performance between Clinton and Bush, although admittedly I overstated it, is real and significant and you can not grant me the facts makes this a beliefs conflict as I said before and they can go on forever.
In this argument the you narrow-mindedness won. I don’t have any more time for this.
Posted by: Ronnn | September 29, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
ronn
It is typical when you present facts about something people result to name calling and I dont want to discuss this anymore now I can see why you are voting for who you are facts are meaningless I guess.I am not an authority on anything just able to connect some simple dots
Posted by: reddog0216 | September 29, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
The rise in cost of housing was a result of fed policy.
You do not understand. Greed by lender, borrowers and the fed is the tottal problem and more regulation is the solution. Now you’re wasting my time.
Posted by: Ronnn | September 29, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
Ronnn
Excatly and McCain and the bush adim tried to get some and the democrats blocked it I just showed you that.But I guess you do not want to believe it
Posted by: reddog0216 | September 29, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
Take a look at the Palin swimsuit video at the 1984 Miss Alaska beauty pageant, before the McCain campaign gets it taken down everywhere!!
They already have managed to get it taken down at you tube….
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/26/sarah-palins-beauty-pagea_n_129667.html
Posted by: Davis | September 29, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
James wrote: Here is one to add to your article:
How many times does Obama need to say Sen. McCain is right, during the debate
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If your implication is that Senator Obama doesn’t have ideas of his own, you’re on the wrong track. His giving credit to McCain simply indicates that he is willing to acknowledge that McCain can be right about some things. But you will recall that each time Senator Obama said that McCain was right, he also said, But here’s where we differ” and went on to explain what the differences were. Obama’s willingness to admit that his opponent can be right about certain things shows that he is willing to work with him and others across the aisle – a far cry from McCain’s obvious intransigence.
Posted by: lorwich | September 29, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
Sara Palen is not a lawyer like both Clintons and both Obama’s and Biden. Most the problems in this country have been created by lawers, we do not need two more tainting the white house. Sara Palen is hated because she is a decent woman,a good wife and mother. she is a good govener and unlike Mrs. Obama, Sara Palen loves America and always has. She will make a great vice-president and if necessary a great president. Obama has shown that running for presiden requires no particular skills whatsoever, he is an empty suit and no amount of media hype can change that.Jimmie Carter was put in the oval office by Democrats and he was useless. He has now become a traitor and an embaressment to America.If Sara Palen came out of the sky, Biden crawled from under a rock, considering the hatchet job he did Robert Bork, Biden is unfit for any public office.
Herschel Copeland
Posted by: Herschel Copeland | September 29, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
Sarah Palin is simply not ready… She may be a great admin person and a kind, decent, person, yet she isn’t prepared for the VP job. It was selfish (sexist and narcissistic too) of John McCain to choose her. John had so many terrific, qualified people to choose from! At this point it seems cruel considering what it will do to Sarah Palin’s political future and self esteem. If McCain wanted a woman he could have gone with Kay Hutchinson or Olympia Snow (what a remarkable personal story) – He’d have probably swayed me then… The way Sarah Palin answers questions by using up time and repeating the words of the question attempting to sound like she had some information about the subject… the sentences that led to nothing or the rambling thoughts… My stomach turned for the poor woman. Even if she does well in the debates Sarah’s already established herself as one of those “pull the string” dolls that’s programmed with what to say. Not only is she not ready now, it appears her mind isn’t one that would ever be ready to be president.
Some are saying that at the beginning of the Dem. Campaign Barrack Obama didn’t know all of the material as well, but what is being left out is that Obama has a brilliant mind capable of depth and nuance that he’s displayed throughout his life. Does the average person realize how difficult it is to get in to Harvard Law? Does the average person understand what the LSAT is and how high you’d have to score to be accepted? Or that Obama’s score was probably in the top 5-7 % of ALL lawyers who take the LSAT? It may seem a small point, yet I’m talking about the starting block. Barrack starts off with this mind that can take open many doors that most of us will never open. Sarah Palin went to 5 or more (lower level) Colleges just to complete a four year degree in journalism… This doesn’t make one confidant that Palin will do well with “on the job” training.
Palin is in way over her head. Not because of the media, but because of her total ignorance on vital subjects and her lack of depth and intelligence. I’m just an average mom of four. I too am honest, hate corruption, and I’m a Washington Outsider. I have held an executive director position with a million plus budget, yet, if someone asked me to be the VP, I would have the intelligenct to first blink… and then think… and then recognize – for the good of this wonderful, hurting nation – that I wouldn’t be the best choice. Ignorant people fool only themselves. Sarah’s abilities are such a farce that when I hear her talk about nothing significant leading to no place informed it elicits compassion and empathy from this average mom who supported Hillary and is definitely voting Obama/Biden.
Posted by: collette | September 29, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
Palin doesn’t have to revive anything!
McCain cleaned Obama’s clock in
Friday’s debate and Palin will do the
same to Dopey Joe Biden!
Let’s not forget that the Left leaning
pollsters who are in the majority
claimed that John Kerry had won
all three debates in 2004 and claimed
through their inaccurate “exit polls”
that John Kerry had won the election!
The liberal news media will claim that
Obama won all three debates and that
somehow Dopey Joe will outperform
Palin, but it’s the election day vote that counts and McCain/Palin will win
that one!
Don’t forget that Fox News in their last
2004 poll before the election had
Kerry ahead by 2 points!
McCain/Palin 08 bet your housse on it!
Posted by: reaganfan | September 29, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
Sarah Palin is simply not ready… She may be a great admin person and a kind, decent, person, yet she isn’t prepared for the VP job. It was selfish (sexist and narcissistic too) of John McCain to choose her. John had so many terrific, qualified people to choose from! At this point it seems cruel considering what it will do to Sarah Palin’s political future and self esteem. If McCain wanted a woman he could have gone with Kay Hutchinson or Olympia Snow (what a remarkable personal story) – He’d have probably swayed me then… The way Sarah Palin answers questions by using up time and repeating the words of the question attempting to sound like she had some information about the subject… the sentences that led to nothing or the rambling thoughts… My stomach turned for the poor woman. Even if she does well in the debates Sarah’s already established herself as one of those “pull the string” dolls that’s programmed with what to say. Not only is she not ready now, it appears her mind isn’t one that would ever be ready to be president.
Some are saying that at the beginning of the Dem. Campaign Barrack Obama didn’t know all of the material as well, but what is being left out is that Obama has a brilliant mind capable of depth and nuance that he’s displayed throughout his life. Does the average person realize how difficult it is to get in to Harvard Law? Does the average person understand what the LSAT is and how high you’d have to score to be accepted? Or that Obama’s score was probably in the top 5-7 % of ALL lawyers who take the LSAT? It may seem a small point, yet I’m talking about the starting block. Barrack starts off with this mind that can take open many doors that most of us will never open. Sarah Palin went to 5 or more (lower level) Colleges just to complete a four year degree in journalism… This doesn’t make one confidant that Palin will do well with “on the job” training.
Palin is in way over her head. Not because of the media, but because of her total ignorance on vital subjects and her lack of depth and intelligence. I’m just an average mom of four. I too am honest, hate corruption, and I’m a Washington Outsider. I have held an executive director position with a million plus budget, yet, if someone asked me to be the VP, I would have the intelligenct to first blink… and then think… and then recognize – for the good of this wonderful, hurting nation – that I wouldn’t be the best choice. Ignorant people fool only themselves. Sarah’s abilities are such a farce that when I hear her talk about nothing significant leading to no place informed it elicits compassion and empathy from this average mom who supported Hillary and is definitely voting Obama/Biden.
Posted by: collette | September 29, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
That’s house with one s!
Posted by: reaganfan | September 29, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
Buzzer you’re a liar!
No republican lifelong or otherwise
would ever call him or herself
a “repug”!
You liberal democrats are the
namecallers!
You can’t win an argument with the facts
so you resort to namecalling like
repugs, mcsame etc! Grow Up!
Posted by: reaganfan | September 29, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
Sara Palin has no understanding about the national issues, international issues and she has no idea what is means by foreigh policy. McCain and camp are just liars and flip-floppers. McCain reverses his policies everyday and is attacking Obama desperately.
Posted by: Amy | September 29, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
Can we now admit the obvious? Sarah Palin is utterly unqualified to be vice president. She is a feisty, charismatic politician who has done some good things in Alaska. But she has never spent a day thinking about any important national or international issue, and this is a hell of a time to start. …In these times, for John McCain to have chosen this person to be his running mate is fundamentally irresponsible. McCain says that he always puts country first. In this important case, it is simply not true.
Posted by: William, Ramona, CA | September 29, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
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Posted by: dlw | September 29, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm
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Posted by: dlw | September 30, 2008, 1:05 am 1:05 am