The Note: Palin Caught in Image War
ABC News’ Rick Klein reports in Wednesday’s Note:
ST. PAUL, Minn. —
The war over Gov. Sarah Palin’s image is on. (And Team McCain can only hope that it’s not already lost.)
What the McCain campaign realizes is that there are two Republican National Conventions now underway — one in St. Paul, and one back home.
In the first, inside the hall, they feel good about being Republicans again. The party’s stars are cycling through (where was this Fred Thompson last year?), the nominee has delegates’ (and — thanks, Joe Lieberman — one big Democrat’s) blessing, and there’s this new young partner who’s got everyone buzzing.
But — as clear as that giant, high-definition American flag rippling behind the podium — none of that may matter over in that other convention that’s playing out in the press reports that seep into American homes.
Certainly not if the running mate doesn’t impress Wednesday (and probably not if the McCain-Palin operation can’t control the media firestorm before she takes the stage).
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The broad issue this Wednesday: The campaign is perilously close to losing control of Palin’s image — and thus the stakes are raised for a speech that was going to be the most closely watched of the convention anyway.
“Core conservatives are smitten with the 44-year-old governor, who opposes abortion in all cases, including rape and incest. And millions of dollars in donations have poured in,” Peter Wallsten and Doyle McManus write in the Los Angeles Times “But Republican strategists don’t know how she will play among moderate swing voters, including blue-collar Democrats, who have been moving toward Barack Obama but might like Palin’s middle-class roots.”
Said former Bush adviser Dan Bartlett: “There’s no middle ground on this for John McCain. . . . She is either going to be a wild success or a spectacular failure.”
“It’s going to be a wild ride,” former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, R-Ga., tells USA Today.
Here comes the pushback: Team McCain plays the gender card and the media-bias card with a full-on offensive — press conferences, surrogate TV and radio appearances (designed to demand fair treatment for Palin and her family), plus a new ad:
“The McCain campaign will launch a television ad directly comparing Governor Palin’s executive experience as a governor who oversees 24,000 state employees, 14 statewide cabinet agencies and a 10 billion dollar budget to Barack Obama’s experience as a one-term junior Senator from Illinois,” a campaign aide tells The Note.
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ABC News’ Hope Ditto contributed to this report.
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Okay News Media – Palin’s church in Alaska – give it equal time as Obama’s church in Chicago. Or will she get a pass? Or will the media be acccused of being sexist for even asking? Someine alert Hannity. He needs to talk about this NON-STOP.
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Brickner also described terrorist attacks on Israelis as God’s “judgment of unbelief” of Jews who haven’t embraced Christianity.
“Judgment is very real and we see it played out on the pages of the newspapers and on the television. It’s very real. When [Brickner's son] was in Jerusalem he was there to witness some of that judgment, some of that conflict, when a Palestinian from East Jerusalem took a bulldozer and went plowing through a score of cars, killing numbers of people. Judgment — you can’t miss it.”
Palin was in church that day, Kroon said, though he cautioned against attributing Brickner’s views to her.
Posted by: NMP | September 3, 2008, 9:18 am 9:18 am
and this is all before the new info on her business being shut down by her own state and her video of the “sermon” she gives about our soldiers “fighting for God”
the worst choice for Vice president in our nation’s history…
America’s done with the right wing …their war on science and democracy…
get this woman out of the debate…
Posted by: dl | September 3, 2008, 9:21 am 9:21 am
“Here comes the pushback: Team McCain plays the gender card and the media-bias card with a full-on offensive — press conferences, surrogate TV and radio appearances (designed to demand fair treatment for Palin and her family).”
Wasn’t it McCain that once joked about Chelsea Clinton being ugly because Janet Reno was her father?
Can you say hypocrisy?
Anyway, none of this matters because the bottom line is Palin will give a good speech tonight, but will still have to drop from the ticket 1) if the ethics investigation says she abused her authority or 2) if she had recent involvement with a secessionist political party.
And there’s still a lot we don’t know about Palin. When the media encounters this much weird stuff this quickly, they start looking deeper.
Posted by: Paul | September 3, 2008, 9:22 am 9:22 am
Palin is Alaskan for “right wing drama”
Posted by: dl | September 3, 2008, 9:22 am 9:22 am
How would it be treated if it were Michelle Obama with a 17 year old pregnant daughter. Or a teenage Chelsea Clinton in the white house?
Posted by: just askin | September 3, 2008, 9:24 am 9:24 am
Image – Schmimage! Look at the issues and the choice is clear as night and day [dare I say... it's as clear as black and white?]
Posted by: Deep Release | September 3, 2008, 9:25 am 9:25 am
The reason Sarah Palin is attacked so visciously by liberals is because she has more experience than the top of the Democratic ticket. When the Democrats whine about her lack of foreign affairs experience, all the Republicans have to do is point to Obama’s similar lack of foreign affairs experience. The Democrats forced Joe Biden on Barack Obama to shore up his lack of experience. It’s now clear to the entire country that the wrong man is at the top of the ticket. Dems are embarrassed, and Repubs are laughing.
Posted by: Disappointed by Not Suprised | September 3, 2008, 9:27 am 9:27 am
I was student body president for 2 years in my high school and 2 years residential student body president at my college…over twice as many people as the number in Palin’s home town
do I have enough “executive experience” even if I, like Palin, can’t spell “mujahadin” never mind explain what it is?
again THE worst choice for VP and self-serving judgment by a Presidential candidate in our nation’s history.
Posted by: dl | September 3, 2008, 9:27 am 9:27 am
If the Republicans are trying to play the gender card, it certainly is working on me. I’ve been a Democrat all my life. I was sickened by the way Democrats treated Hillary, and I am sickened by the way they are attacking Sarah Palin. Why do I owe loyalty to a party that clearly shows little respect for women? I realize the Republicans are trying to exploit the anger of Democratic women. At the same time, I applaud the fact that Republicans don’t seem to have a problem with a woman in the White House. Conservatives have treated Palin with far more respect than many Democrats treated Clinton. I was going to stay home in November. With the nomination of Sarah Palin, I will cast my vote for the Republicans.
Posted by: Another Sarah | September 3, 2008, 9:28 am 9:28 am
I can see why McCain picked her… she’s under investigation for corruption and abuse of power to retaliate against her enemies. That’s all the vetters needed to know.
Posted by: hopesprings52 | September 3, 2008, 9:28 am 9:28 am
Disappointed- please just tell us WHAT foreign policy experience she has – just name one thing and it can not involve the National Guard.
Posted by: NMP | September 3, 2008, 9:29 am 9:29 am
I don’t care what they say about Sarah Palin. I’m voting for McCain-Palin, or McCain-Whoever. Democrats should realize that not all Democrats are LEFT-WING NUTS. Some of us are moderate Democrats, and we DO consider Obama’s membership in a racist, anti-Semitic, un-American church relevant. The Dems lost me for this year, although I will vote Democratic in my state. Obama was a bad mistake. He has no more foreign affairs experience than Sarah Palin, and she’s at the BOTTOM of the Republican ticket.
Posted by: Andrea, Ex - Dem | September 3, 2008, 9:31 am 9:31 am
Let the vetting begin.
Her equal is Joe Biden but she is new like Obama was so she needs equal scrutiny to what Obama & family had.
DRIP,DRIP,DRIP
Posted by: watching | September 3, 2008, 9:31 am 9:31 am
Y’all do realize if she supports secession she doesn’t even want to be an American, right?
I think this is one of the truly bizarre storylines I’ve seen in American politics.
Posted by: Paul | September 3, 2008, 9:33 am 9:33 am
With expectations this low, her speech can only become a success. But there are too many questions surrounding her candidacy for her to answer in one speech, and when all the convention excitement settles down, she will have to answer for them one by one.
Posted by: El_Pajaro | September 3, 2008, 9:35 am 9:35 am
The more the liberals attack Sarah Palin, the more I like her. I am sickened by my own party. They trashed Hillary, and now they’re trashing another woman. And they expect my vote. LOL
Posted by: Hokie Freak's Better Half | September 3, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am
andrea
you prove that their are some “right wing nuts” then in the Dem party also.
moderates think Palen is the worst vp candidate in history as much as left wing as you say “nut jobs” do
she is ill equipped with the knowledge andfamiliarity with ANY of the issues we face outside …energy awareness and policy built on oil and gas exclusively …that’s a good energy policy with what we are facing…not.
the worst VP candidate in our nation’s history…all to play a gender card.
sad…
Posted by: dl | September 3, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am
And a male governor picked to run as a vice presidential candidate while he was being investigated for abuse of power… we’d never hear a word about that.
Damned sexist media!
Posted by: Paul | September 3, 2008, 9:38 am 9:38 am
These questions are all just media hype. This is the first election in very long time when no one from the greater South has been on either ticket and during the past 40 years the ticket with a southerner has always prevailed.
Everyone seems to think that so many States are in play for the “other” party this year, but I seriously doubt it. It will once again, be about the working class and their perception of who best represents them and their lives (whether it’s an accurate comparison or not). My guess is that all those non-represented Southern and lower mid-west States will go with McCain/Palin because of the “whose life looks more like mine” issue. I think most of those blue collar voters from swing states will also be pulling the lever with the same idea in mind.
The country is in a mess, but it has been for a long time. Every four years we hope for something positive, but we get the closest approximation to what middle American sees when they look in the mirror.
Posted by: mhhunt | September 3, 2008, 9:38 am 9:38 am
mhhunt: “These questions are all just media hype.”
No they’re not. She is under investigation. That’s not media hype. Now, granted, investigation doesn’t equal guilt, but we do know she’s already been caught in a lie about the potential abuse of power.
And while we don’t know whether she was involved with this secessionist party or not, we have heard from three members including a former AIP chairman who say on the record she was involved, and recently, too.
Not media hype at all.
Posted by: Paul | September 3, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am
I just find it funny how people keep referring her as a “soccer mom”…
Isn’t is strange that she could only find 3 days to stay away from her Gov. Desk after giving birth to a premature child with DS? But now she has found 7 days to stay away from her Gov. Desk so she can campaign?
This woman is corrupt, unfit and very unqualified… but she will give her cheerleader rah rah speech tonight and still repeat all her lies, and the media will go wild and say she was the hit of the party and SHE is the republican party….. mark my words.
The media will be sucking up to her now that the sexism card has been played….
her first acceptance speech was awful, and the media thought it was outta this world…. so its only fitting they will think tonights will be a grand slam.
Palin:
A wanna be, who never will be
Posted by: lmg | September 3, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am
And just to clarify the lie comment, Palin once said she didn’t have any direct communication with the guy she fired about him not firing her brother in law… only to now learn investigators have voicemails and e-mails to the contrary.
Posted by: Paul | September 3, 2008, 9:46 am 9:46 am
Palins image is fine and she will do as well as anyone else. It is the press, the inner circles of the inside the beltway people who act as if they have just taken a Tabasco enema.
Posted by: david | September 3, 2008, 9:48 am 9:48 am
McCain’s Judgement & McCain’s Ulterior Motives are going to be EXPLOITED on this one in the WORSE OF WAYS !!!
McCain did Not Vet This Woman at all !!!
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Source: http://www.thenewyorktimes.com
Note: The surprises, however, continued Monday when it was revealed that Palin’s 17-year-old daughter was pregnant, that the governor had hired a lawyer to defend her in an ethics investigation, that she attended meetings of a fringe party calling for Alaskan independence and that her husband had been arrested for drunken driving.
Big Note: Ms. Clark said that Ms. Palin’s Husband, Todd, was a Former Member of the Party.
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Big Note: After checking the party’s archives, Ms. Clark said that she could find no documentation that Governor Palin had been a member of the party.
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The Biggest Note: She said Ms. Palin ATTENDED the party’s (1994 and 2006) Conventions and Provided a Video-Taped Address as governor to the (2008 Convention)
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You were surprised, sure. But what about McCain?
September 2, 2008, 10:32 pm
Alaska Party Official Says Palin Was Not a Member
By The New York Times
The chairwoman of an Alaskan political party that advocates a vote on the state’s succession from the union said Tuesday that she had been mistaken when she said Gov. Sarah Palin was a member of the group.
A front-page story in The New York Times on Tuesday and articles in other news media reported that Ms. Palin was a member of the Alaska Independence Party for two years in the 1990’s.
Big Note: The information in the Times article was based on a statement issued Monday night by Lynette Clark, the party’s chairwoman, who said that Ms. Palin joined the party in 1994 and in 1996 changed her registration to Republican.
COVER UP, COVER UP: On Tuesday Night, Ms. Clark said that her initial statement was incorrect and had been based on erroneous information provided by another member of the party whom she declined to identify.
The McCain campaign also disputed the Times report, saying that Ms. Palin had been registered consistently as a Republican.
Posted by: o. | September 3, 2008, 9:48 am 9:48 am
So David, this investigation is nothing to you?
Or her reported involvement with a secessionist political party? Nothing?
Or that McCain says she was thoroughly vetted and we since learn that, well, maybe ‘thoroughly’ isn’t exactly the right word?
Posted by: Paul | September 3, 2008, 9:51 am 9:51 am
I watch the media and my democratic party rip apart Hillary and display sexism that would have fit in perfectly circa the early 1900s. I absolutely will not stand by and see it happen to yet another strong, very capable woman. The more they try to beat her up the stronger resolve I get. I’m spreading the word and promoting her to everyone I meet.
Posted by: Humble American | September 3, 2008, 9:53 am 9:53 am
The media is trying to get this girl to commit suicide, by putting extreme pressure on her and then they can ask the VP nominee.. how do you feel now?
Posted by: hilly-billy | September 3, 2008, 9:53 am 9:53 am
What worries me most about McCain/Palin ticket is their environmental policy (especially regarding drilling in the ANWR). I think it is evermore important for us, as consumers to support ‘green businesses’ that benefit the environment. For example, http://www.simplestop.net stops your postal junk mail and benefits the environment.
Posted by: Clark | September 3, 2008, 9:54 am 9:54 am
Hmmm, we see the AIP plot thickening.
The fact that her husband was a member actually may help her. Going to meetings as a spouse doesn’t necessarily indicate support for the party’s goals.
But I was a little suspicious when the McCain campaign produced Republican registration cards going back to when she first registered to vote. Who keeps those cards? That sounded like cover-up, but who knows.
I do know this. Being registered in one party doesn’t mean you can’t be involved in another party. However, again, the husband’s membership may well give her the cover she needs.
Posted by: Paul | September 3, 2008, 9:55 am 9:55 am
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/31/alaska-national-guard-gen_n_122860.html
SARAH PALIN & MAJ. GENERAL CRAIG CAMPBELL, DO NOT CONTROL THE ALSKAN NATIONAL GAURD, THE PRESIDENT & THE PENTAGON ITSELF, “CONTROLS THE NATIONAL GAURD.
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NOTE: Maj. Gen. Craig Campbell, adjutant general of the Alaska National Guard, considers Palin “extremely responsive and smart” and says she is in charge when it comes to in-state services, such as emergencies and natural disasters where the National Guard is the first responder.
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NOTE: But, in an interview with The Associated Press on Sunday, Maj. Gen. Craig Campbell said He and Palin play NO ROLE IN NATIONAL DEFENSE ACTIVITIES, even when they involve the ALSKA NATIONAL GAURD
The entire operation is under federal control, and the governor is not briefed on situations.
Stephen C. Donehoo, managing director of Kissinger McLarty Associates in Washington, and former military intelligence officer specializing in Latin America:
“No doubt the campaign staff have her hooked up to a fire hose on foreign policy issues,” said Stephen C. Donehoo, managing director of Kissinger McLarty Associates in Washington and a former military intelligence officer.
“No doubt they fear a debate with Joe Biden that touches foreign affairs,” Donehoo said. “My guess is Graham and (Joe) Lieberman are doing a lot of tutoring.”
Republican Sen. Norm Coleman of Minnesota appears to have no such worries, given what he considers to be Obama’s lack of experience.
“The PRESIDENT sets the TONE,” Coleman said. “The EXPERIENCE issue is on the other side. The No. 1 guy there is the guy without the experience.”
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Contributing to this report were AP writers Tom Raum, Jim Kuhnhenn, Glen Johnson and Nestor Ikeda in St. Paul and Anne Sutton in Juneau, Alaska.
Posted by: o. | September 3, 2008, 9:59 am 9:59 am
The Republicans have Palin in seclusion busily stuffing her right wing head with facts, facts, and more facts to make her look good. She will address the convention with the best speech that money can buy. We will be watching a tricked out individual who looks and sounds like Mrs. America who has turned to politics to save us all.
Posted by: Two-cats | September 3, 2008, 10:00 am 10:00 am
Humble American: “The more they try to beat her up the stronger resolve I get.”
Please. She’s a governor under investigation. If the media didn’t pursue that, they’d be derelict.
And even the thing about the daughter. Some blogs awkwardly repeated rumors that some Alaskans had started about the DS baby being a grandchild rather than a child. To counter those blogs, the McCain campaign released information about the daughter being now pregnant.
The media relayed that release.
If anything, the media is getting played for chumps by the McCain campaign.
“Oh look at that. They reported our release. Those sexist pigs!”
Posted by: Paul | September 3, 2008, 10:02 am 10:02 am
Well, of course, bash the media for asking the questions that the public is entitled to have asked.
That is the only strategy left when you have no answers. Attack the questioner.
I notice that the journalists that McCain attacked are WOMEN.
So he is racist, mediaist and sexist.
She’s not qualified to be VP and may be guilty of treason (secession from the Union–remember the Civil War).
Posted by: susan | September 3, 2008, 10:03 am 10:03 am
o. – the president controls “federalized” National Guardsmen, but when not in that status they are under their respective governor’s control.
Posted by: Paul | September 3, 2008, 10:03 am 10:03 am
Sarah Palin’s image? Well she doesn’t believe evolution or sex education should be taught in public schools. Guess that’s why her daughter was stupid enough to have unprotected sex. Makes you wonder how many STDs the girl has considering an 18 year old boy is usually been around a few. Oh well, from her perspective that is just God’s will! I really do not understand where God said go forth and be ignorant. However, the conservative right wants to do just that, bury their heads in the sand and if you have the courage to look around and ask questions you’re a labeled a liberal that should be banned from society.
The McCain camp is right in one way though, his administration would be nothing like GW’s it would be much worse.
Posted by: Floridian | September 3, 2008, 10:04 am 10:04 am
This is what happens, media aside, when a candidate is not vetted fully and the presidential candidate lacks solid judgement. Now, this selection of “Sarah WHO” is being turned into a sexist-ridden incident rather than lack of experience and illegal dismissals of government employees are coming to the forefront. So much for John McCain being his “own man”! Howard Gallas, Reno, NV.
Posted by: Howard Gallas | September 3, 2008, 10:05 am 10:05 am
“Another working class mom” is NOT what this country needs as the VP pick. The country needs someone with serious national and international credentials on Foreign Policy, Economy, Environment, Health Care, etc. A Governor from a state with the population of a small American city will simply not do.
Posted by: Bob Williams | September 3, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am
Be afraid, be very afraid.
Palin is part of a heretical Christian movement that promotes end-times “theology” and believes that the ends justify the means.
I knew someone from Alaska who believed this same stuff and evidently it is not that uncommon there. They believe that Alaska is the place of safety for people to hide out during the Tribulation. They also believe in prophecies from these pastors who tell them to get ready for Armageddon. I’ve read some stuff her pastor has said and it made the hair rise on the back of my neck. It is the same stuff this person I knew use to spout off.
Also, I believe this will BACKFIRE big time on McCain. I’m a Christian and I believe that the mainstream Christians of this country cannot go along with the heresy that her pastor preaches….and that she has been videotaped agreeing with. I think there will be a crack in his base when word gets out about what she actually believes, and knowing what I know about this movement, there is no way she will disavow her pastor as Obama did after he came to his senses about him. She WON’T come to her senses because she is brainwashed into believing that some sort of Christian Jihad is called for.
Kool-aid anyone?
Posted by: Gretchen | September 3, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am
YOU PEOPLE ARE SCARED OF THE TRUTH…ESPECIALLY WHEN IN I POST THE DAMN TRUTH…
ABC YOU ARE AS WORSE AS SARAH PALIN HERSELF…
Posted by: o. | September 3, 2008, 10:15 am 10:15 am
She has no image… she is an EMPTY SUITE just like McCain. I watched the convention last night. What a bunch of blow up crap and no substance. To actually think we would fall for the words “CHANGE” coming from a Republicans mouth is actually laughable. They have nothing… they have said nothing… they have no policies except for the same 8 years we got screwed in. No thanks!
Posted by: beck | September 3, 2008, 10:16 am 10:16 am
ABC: why not get videos on this… I would like to see what this is all about… After all.. You are our source of honest coverage.
Palin is part of a heretical Christian movement that promotes end-times “theology” and believes that the ends justify the means.
I knew someone from Alaska who believed this same stuff and evidently it is not that uncommon there. They believe that Alaska is the place of safety for people to hide out during the Tribulation. They also believe in prophecies from these pastors who tell them to get ready for Armageddon. I’ve read some stuff her pastor has said and it made the hair rise on the back of my neck. It is the same stuff this person I knew use to spout off.
Posted by: beck | September 3, 2008, 10:19 am 10:19 am
I just love the constant attacks on Palin’s character, personal choices, and motherhood by liberals who CLAIM to support feminism. She is a classic feminist in every sense. PLEASE, PLEASE, keep it up. Women voters across the company are getting angrier by the day. This will backfire spectacularly.
Posted by: Jim in OH | September 3, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/31/alaska-national-guard-gen_n_122860.html
PAUL YOU ARE DEAD WRONG….
SARAH PALIN & MAJ. GENERAL CRAIG CAMPBELL, DO NOT CONTROL THE ALSKAN NATIONAL GAURD, THE PRESIDENT & THE PENTAGON ITSELF, “CONTROLS THE NATIONAL GAURD.
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NOTE: Maj. Gen. Craig Campbell, adjutant general of the Alaska National Guard, considers Palin “Extremely Responsive and Smart” and says she is in charge when it comes to (In-State Services), such as Emergencies and Natural Disasters where the National Guard is the First Responder.
MEANING: HEAVY SNOW STORMS AN SUCH, NOT MILITARY ACTIVITIES, SHE’S NOT EVEN BRIEFED ON MILITARY MATTERS, AT ALL !!!
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NOTE: But, in an interview with The Associated Press on Sunday…..
Maj. Gen. Craig Campbell said He and Palin “PLAY NO ROLE IN NATIONAL DEFENSE ACTIVITIES”, EVEN WHEN THEY INVOLVE THE ALASKA NATIONAL GAURD”
The entire operation is under federal control, and the governor is not briefed on situations.
Posted by: o. | September 3, 2008, 10:26 am 10:26 am
Note to the uninformed women of America, the ability to birth, sustain and nuture a child is what set us women apart from men, we are certainly equals but different. This cynical ticket designed to gain Hillary voters should not sway us, nothing about Palin is about women’s issues. This is a man’s way of shutting us up by danggling infront of us, what he thinks we want, a woman she is, just not the right woman. In 90% of this world a four month old is still breastfed, the female leaders you see today have delayed having or taken time off to have children, there can be no two ways about it, as is proven by the results of her daughter’s decision. If Palin doesn’t get this then she cannot be a true representative for any female, let alone champion our causes.
Posted by: Iamwoman | September 3, 2008, 10:35 am 10:35 am
I think this is all about good judgement, with neither McCain nor Palin seem to have. A mother which puts her carrier before the immense pressure and damage that this will do to her pregnant young child and which she would have been fully aware of, is not thinking straight.
I would have loved to have a woman as president or vice, however to have an unqualified, unprepared woman is patronizing and will set women’s lib back decades. I am terrified to have 2 trigger happy mavericks as potential leaders of the free world. We need some intelligent, calm persons with good enough judgement to weigh different aspects and listen to sound advisors. Shoot off the hip and mouth politics we had enough in the last 8 years and it landed us in a deep pile of s.. We are already now the laughing stock of the world, let’s stop this soap opera and vote before this “American Idol” selection completely gets out of hand.
Posted by: martha | September 3, 2008, 10:42 am 10:42 am
This pretty much sums up the McCain mentality:
McCain’s Voice Mail to Palin Leaked to Press (Listen)
http://www.236.com/blog/w/lee_camp/mccains_voice_mail_to_palin_le_8644.php
Posted by: patriot | September 3, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am
Thank God for the NRA!!!Now Bristol’s mom can have her shotgun wedding. As far as Experience…George Bush had experience as Governor of TX, Obama’s experience is the experience of everyday families living from pay check to paycheck, with 8 years of economic mismanagement, lies to go into Iraq, and Lieberman as Judas. Yeah, that says a lot for the GOP. Oh, can we have the KIP, just like the AIP. Yeah, the Alaskan secessionist what an example of patriotism. In the 90′s I was in Desert Storm. Ms. Sara was with the AIP, and Obama was trying to help workers in Chicago who had lost their jobs. Teen pregnancy or Colombine massacre… parents too obsessed with their carreers and not enough with their children.
Posted by: Willie in Kansas | September 3, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am
How stupid would a real Hillary voter be if they were swayed to Palin? She is the polar opposite of every position. The only Hillary voter she would steal would be a moron.
She wants a sex education policy of ignorance, and we can see what that brought into her house. Very successful plan ma’am.
She grabbed as much pork as she could as Mayor and Governor, and now claims she was against it. Please. Do 10 seconds research and you can see the flagrant lies.
She’s a ‘reformer’ who directed Ted Stevens’ 527 organization! Yeah, reform. That’s the Ted mantra.
She wants Creationism taught in school. Absurd enough, but AS SCIENCE?!?!
She’s not capable of running the United States and I’m not sure she should have been running Alaska. With the health questions for McCain, this choice cost him my vote. No way I’d put someone so compelled to stupidity by their religion in a position to dictate the next 3 Supreme Court Justices.
I agree with the earlier post – Why is this Levi kid not up on charges for child molestation and rape? He belongs on a sex offenders list. Oh, that’s right, that list is only for other people.
Posted by: AngryAndSad | September 3, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am
As a woman I am sooooo sick of us females using the sex card, for all the talk of equality we whine, and really can’t take the heat. If you have dirty laundry you don’t want aired, get your feelings easily hurt, don’t get in an arena where they will. I don’t need a pass from any man, Palin, Hillary and any female who seek to shatter any glass ceiling should not have one either…this is like hearing about the race card sick, sick of it. Give me a woman who can throw and take a punch, then I say we are on the way.
Posted by: Iamwoman | September 3, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am
Every day when I think the media can’t possibly sink any lower…they prove me wrong.
Kind of hypocritical attacking Palin, when the media in this country couldn’t get elected dog catcher.
I haven’t watched ABC in a long time, because every time I do they are constantly trying to spoon feed me their spin on the news.
I don’t care about what ABC has to say about Palin, I am a big boy and I can decide for myself.
I learned a long time ago the ones making the biggest noise is usually doing so to try and make up for their own shortcomings.
Posted by: dan | September 3, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am
“The Alaska State Defence Force (ASDF) is a military entity authorized by both the State Code of Alaska and Executive Order. The State Defense Force (SDF) is the state’s authorized militia and assumes the state mission of the Alaska National Guard in the event the Guard is mobilized. It is separate from the National Guard and reports to the Governor of Alaska as Commander-in-Chief. The SDF is composed of retired active and reserve military personnel and selected professional persons who volunteer their time and talents in further service to their state.” – wikipedia
Posted by: Norman | September 3, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am
It’s interesting how the McCain camp has been given so many passes by the media from gaffe after gaffe. Now, all of a sudden they’re pissed because the media is actually doing their job for once. The media vetted Palin before the McCain campaign did!!
It’s obvious Palin wasn’t vetted. Actually, a new Washington Post article states that she was interviewed the day before McCain chose her as his VP candidate. So that makes a total of two times they have met.
Would you entrust someone to help you run the country that you’ve only met twice? We’re in the middle of two wars, the economy’s in the bucket and somehow Palin’s the best VP choice McCain could find? Sounds like a bridge to nowhere…
Posted by: Jennifer | September 3, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am
The GOP better watch comparing “executive experience for the TOP guys, If you use their standard, she has more experience (in 20 months?) than John MCCain. Gimme a break, she has been a mayor and just became a governor and they claim “more experience. And what does she do once elected, abuse the power given her, as mayor AND as governor. We dont nneed anymore power hungry cowboys (cowgirls) running our country. We dont need more of the same.
Posted by: Mark C-Virginia | September 3, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am
Never seen Democrats so “uneasy” about Sarah Palin.
I LOVE IT!
By the way, as of today, your party is just leading by 3% in the polls, just following your convention… you should be leading by 10-12%.
By the way, keep up the bashing of women – you’re upsetting many of them. I know of a few “hard core” liberals who are disgusted by the attacks on Palin’s family and are now voting Republican for the first time!!!
Smart man, McCain… It’s working!!!
Posted by: Elaine | September 3, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am
Just so I can understand liberal “logic”; explain to me 1) how Kennedy can murder a young woman and be re-elected 25 times as a Democratic senator, 2) how Robert Byrd can serve as a kleagle in the KKK and be the Democrats longest sitting senator 3) if a teenage kid of a Republican gets caught doing what virtually all teenagers have done – somehow her mother’s character, values, and ability to govern is called into question.
Is this the same “logic” that calls GWB a war monger when it seemed perfectly fine that Truman incinerated 300,000 civilians in an instant (Remember that liberal credo “the end does not justify the means”) while Kennedy and Johnson killed millions in Vietnam?
Is this the same “logic” that caused Obama to pick Biden who received less than 900 votes and was the first candidate to drop out the Democratic primaries yet walk away from Hillary who had 18,000,000 votes?
Is this the same “logic” that required the networks to run stories and air the photos of the underwear laden prisoners at Abu grab 100 times more than the stories regarding the decapitated civilian prisoners of Al Qaeda?
Is this the same “logic” that says “we must keep people from developing the wilderness so only I can use them when I camp and hike”?
Is this the same “logic” that says we must do everything we can to save some obscure snail that nobody has ever or will ever see but it’s perfectly fine to suck the brains out of unborn children in an effort to kill them and call it an a abortion?
Is this the same “logic” that says abstinence only sex education doesn’t work when virtually every girl who becomes pregnant had been taught endlessly about birth control meaning that that isn’t working either but you never seem to mention that in all your rants?
Is this the same “logic” that says liberalism is about individual freedom and the uncensored expression of one’s beliefs in an effort to make the country a better place but conservatives are ridiculed for practicing their own form of religion, expressing their opinions towards public education, the war, welfare, the death penalty, abortion, etc, etc, etc?
Is this the same “logic” that says health care is biased towards men yet men live on average 7 years less than woman?
Is this the same “logic” that espouses redistribution of wealth but never seems to get around to addressing investment of time, commitment of money, risk of losing everything, or endless liability?
Is this the same “logic” that demanded we not quarantine AIDS victims when the virus was first exposed in the early 80”s because it would be a violation of human rights, so instead 10’s of millions of additional people have been killed by the virus?
Posted by: Robert Campbell | September 3, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am
Mark C-Virginia:
I’ve been thinking the same thing. I wonder when the media is going to pick up on that?
Posted by: Jennifer | September 3, 2008, 10:58 am 10:58 am
The sexist liberal media has been doing a massive hit job on Palin.
CNN is the worst of the liberal sexists. But almost all the media outlets have lived under a double standard.
None of these questions were asked of Obama.
Liberal Sexism is setting womens issues back 100 years.
Posted by: sarah | September 3, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am
Republican woman, stay away from me. Republican woman, mama let me be. Don’t come hangin’ around my door. I don’t wanna see your face no more. I got more important things to do. Than spend my time growin’ old with you. I don’t need your war machines. I don’t need your beauty queens. Northern lights can hypnotize. Sparkle someone else’s eyes. Goodbye, Republican woman. Goodbye, Republican chick. Goodbye, Republican broad … (Adapted from The Guess Who’s American Woman)
Posted by: hamishdad | September 3, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am
Palin has governed a mere 600,000 people for 18 months in a state that receives so much federal aide (more than any other state) and is so oil rich it returns thousands of dollars to its citizens every year. It is hardly the kind of state that prepares anyone for serving the UNITED –(something Palin opposes by the way (supporting Alaskan succession from the Union)) — States.
Her experience is more akin to that of an oil rich nation like Venezuela or Saudi Arabia.
Posted by: john | September 3, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am
Another Sarah = another PUMA straggler who doesn’t realize that PUMA has been thoroughly debunked and exposed to all America as the cloaked Republican racist group that it is.
Give it up, you sorry fringe freak, we’re laughing at you.
Posted by: mediawatch | September 3, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am
This will backfire on the the far left-wing liberals and the biased media. There’s already backlash. Sit back and enjoy the show.
Posted by: Mack | September 3, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am
“The McCain campaign will launch a television ad directly comparing Governor Palin’s executive experience as a governor who oversees 24,000 state employees, 14 statewide cabinet agencies and a 10 billion dollar budget to Barack Obama’s experience as a one-term junior Senator from Illinois,” a campaign aide tells The Note.
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By this same logic, wouldn’t that mean that Palin also has more experience than McCain himself? And if that’s the case, shouldn’t the GOP take McCain off the ticket and replace him? Just sayin’ is all.
Posted by: Steve R. | September 3, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am
“Another Sarah = another PUMA straggler who doesn’t realize that PUMA has been thoroughly debunked and exposed to all America as the cloaked Republican racist group that it is.”
Exposed by who? Dailykrud & Huffpoop? Sorry, but it’s real. Get used to it.
Posted by: Mack | September 3, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am
hamishdad, very nice. It would make a nice campaign ad!
Posted by: JudiNV | September 3, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am
“Disappointed- please just tell us WHAT foreign policy experience she has – just name one thing and it can not involve the National Guard.”
I wouldn’t be worrying about her so much. You may want to focus your attention on the empty-suit at the top of your ticket. Fred Thompson incinerated him in his speech last night.
Posted by: Mack | September 3, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am
Got curious about the “PALIN INVESTIGATION” some of the Obama supporters are ranting about without offering any FACTS against Palin..So I thought I’d offer them: Trooper Micheal Wooten (ex-brother-in-law of Palin) Married and divorced 4 times. The record indicates a serious and concentrated pattern of ABUSE OF POWER AND ILLEGAL ACTIVITY..Col Julia Grimes,(2006) Head of Alaska State Troopers gave written instructions to suspend Trooper Micheal Wooten. He has been written up seven times since he joined the force..for such things as:
Child Abuse: Using a taser on his kid
Illegal Hunting
Drinking and Driving on the job
Threats of violence against citizens of Alaska.
Now if I were in a position of authority it stands to reason that this is one rogue cop that should not be in the job . And if he is being protected by Walt Monegan, he should not be on the job either…AND THATS WHAT THIS INVESTIGATION IS ALL ABOUT.
Information: Anchorage Daily News, article written by Lisa Demer, 07/27/08..
Posted by: Curious Indep | September 3, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am
Funny how the Dems keep bringing up inexperience, when Obama has none and is up for the presidency… hmmm.
He’s been in the Senate for 3.5 yrs, 2 of which he has been campaigning. He’s never run anything in his life, Sarah Palin has. By the way, nobody ever questined Hillary’s experience when she ran for Senate of NY. She had NO EXPERIENCE except running around in the White House and a FAILED health care reform plan…. Sarah Palin has accomplished what she has on her own, not because she was a former First Lady.
Amazing how attacks on her daughter have overplayed Obama’s attendance of of an anti-white, anti-USA, place of worship and comments made by Michelle Obama on how this is the first time she is proud to be an American…
Is that all you’ve got folks? Attacks on a 17 yr old? ARE ANY OF YOU AWARE THAT OBAMA’S MOTHER GAVE BIRTH TO HIM AT 18 AND WAS NOT MARRIED???
That’s the difference between Reps and Dems… Republicans do not persecute people on their mistakes because everyone makes them. It’s living up to your responsibility that’s truly admirable.
The majority of Democrats are for “everything goes and no consequences”. If a teenage girl becomes pregnant…(the Democrat way) go out and have an abortion or collect a check from the government. This family is doing the right thing and living up to their responsibility…. not killing a human life or expecting the government to support it. And what are they getting in return???? Attack after attack..
The only explanation to this is….. Wow! you Dems are in a panic are you?
Please, please stop taking about your concerns for the environment and how some life form may be inconvenienced as a result of drilling, when you approve of taking a human life when it’s not convenient. Please stop bringing up the fact that some type of dessert scorpion may not be able to migrate to find a mate because of drilling, when our dependence on oil is filling the pockets of potential terrorists and lunatics like Chavez.
Posted by: Jenny | September 3, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am
Maybe even James Dobson didn’t vette her enough
Palin belongs to a religious denomination that is not well liked by mainstream protestants. The Assembly of God denomination, a pentecostal sect, has long garnered distrust from Baptists for its faith healings, exorcisms, snake handling during church services, and its worship of the Holy Spirit.
Posted by: Palin is Possessed | September 3, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am
Wow!!! Is this country not pathetic. The liberal media, for the first time ever has an African-American running for president on a major ticket who is so un-interesting that they have to spend the entirety of their time picking on a person who was selected to run as v.p.!!! Pathetic!!!
Posted by: edaw | September 3, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am
i have never see so much crap being said before about a person.You know you are all talking about a 17 year old girl..If that was your daughter it would be ok?.You know the world is watching and you all have made us look like a joke.no wonder the rest of the world don’t think much of us. we are a bunch of babies.She did this he done that. Everyone even you have done something wrong in your past but of course you don’t want anyone to know about it.But its ok for you to beat someone else to the point of no return but don’t do it to you( right).Grow up. Party lines have gotten so out of control.In some country’s you would be hung for saying the things you are saying. thank god for America where we can say what we want no mater what happens to someone else.Freedom of speech more like freedom to be stupid.
Posted by: Ashamed | September 3, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am
I’m a woman who supported Hillary throughout her primary run. Even to the point of going door to door, handing out info sheets.
Then, the Democratic party anointed Obama as their leader. I saw it for what it was – sexism. I decided then and there I would vote for McCain.
This past week, McCain announced that he had chosen a female VP with nowhere near Hillary’s experience or competence. I saw it for what it was – sexism.
So now I have to decide whether Barr or Nader is least sexist.
It is getting *so* hard to be an indignant female voter these days…
Posted by: HillarySupporter | September 3, 2008, 11:19 am 11:19 am
So, they are SERIOUSLY going to contend that Palin’s government experience exceeds Obama’s? I think a simple waterhead with a minimal knowledge of how government works would know that isn’t true.
The Palin appointment is basically a desperate and cynical move by McCain to appeal to arch- conservatives, whom he shares little political ground with—and to appeal to women, some of whom are on the fence about Obama, but should be scared as hell over Palin’s political leanings.
It’s a Hail Mary (literally) by McCain. And he has his spin machine in full swing over Palin, which is the most cynical part of their already cynical and bitter campaign. To say that sexism is a reason for scrutinizing and criticizing Palin’s record is beyond belief.
Posted by: tdub | September 3, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am
In the first real decision of what could be John McCain’s presidency, he bungled it.
… looking more like Bush everyday.
Posted by: john | September 3, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am
I was kind of in the middle, but after last night, it seems like Republicans are more eager to work together as Americans.
There is also no doubt that there is no prouder American than McCain. His love for this nation is incredible.
I have to see Palin tonight, but so far she seems like someone I can relate to as an American mom. I think she really understands hard working American values and everyday concerns better than Obama / Biden. They’re flying way above the clouds.
The smear tactics against Sarah Palin’s family have also turned me off.
I will probably go for the McCain/Palin ticket in November.
Posted by: Tiffany | September 3, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am
I agree with Robert Campbell. The Dems are so outmof touch, my uber-liberal brother is voting for McCain. As for me, I’m for Sarah-all you pro-choice women only care if the choice is abortion-hypocrites! If a woman succeeds in a way you don’t approve, you tear her down. Free speech for only those you agree with. You preach tolerance and are the most INTOLERABLE of all!
Posted by: Dianne | September 3, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am
The Truth About Sarah Palin:
Dear friends,
So many people have asked me about what I know about Sarah Palin in the
last 2 days that I decided to write something up . . .
Basically, Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton have only 2 things in
common: their gender and their good looks. :)
You have my permission to forward this to your friends/email contacts
with my name and email address attached, but please do not post it on
any websites, as there are too many kooks out there . . .
Thanks,
Anne
ABOUT SARAH PALIN
I am a resident of Wasilla, Alaska. I have known Sarah since 1992.
Everyone here knows Sarah, so it is nothing special to say we are on a
first-name basis. Our children have attended the same schools. Her
father was my child’s favorite substitute teacher. I also am on a
first name basis with her parents and mother-in-law. I attended more
City Council meetings during her administration than about 99% of the
residents of the city.
She is enormously popular; in every way she’s like the most popular
girl in middle school. Even men who think she is a poor choice and
won’t vote for her can’t quit smiling when talking about her because
she is a “babe”.
It is astonishing and almost scary how well she can keep a secret. She
kept her most recent pregnancy a secret from her children and parents
for seven months.
She is “pro-life”. She recently gave birth to a Down’s syndrome baby.
There is no cover-up involved, here; Trig is her baby.
She is energetic and hardworking. She regularly worked out at the gym.
She is savvy. She doesn’t take positions; she just “puts things out
there” and if they prove to be popular, then she takes credit.
Her husband works a union job on the North Slope for BP and is a
champion snowmobile racer. Todd Palin’s kind of job is highly
sought-after because of the schedule and high pay. He arranges his
work schedule so he can fish for salmon in Bristol Bay for a month or
so in summer, but by no stretch of the imagination is fishing their
major source of income. Nor has her life-style ever been anything
like that of native Alaskans.
Sarah and her whole family are avid hunters.
She’s smart.
Her experience is as mayor of a city with a population of about 5,000
(at the time), and less than 2 years as governor of a state with about
670,000 residents.
During her mayoral administration most of the actual work of running
this small city was turned over to an administrator. She had been
pushed to hire this administrator by party power-brokers after she had
gotten herself into some trouble over precipitous firings which had
given rise to a recall campaign.
Sarah campaigned in Wasilla as a “fiscal conservative”. During her 6
years as Mayor, she increased general government expenditures by over
33%. During those same 6 years the amount of taxes collected by the
City increased by 38%. This was during a period of low inflation
(1996-2002). She reduced progressive property taxes and increased a
regressive sales tax which taxed even food. The tax cuts that she
promoted benefited large corporate property owners way more than they
benefited residents.
The huge increases in tax revenues during her mayoral administration
weren’t enough to fund everything on her wish list though, borrowed
money was needed, too. She inherited a city with zero debt, but left it
with indebtedness of over $22 million. What did Mayor Palin encourage
the voters to borrow money for? Was it the infrastructure that she said
she supported? The sewage treatment plant that the city lacked? or a
new library? No. $1m for a park. $15m-plus for construction of a
multi-use sports complex which she rushed through to build on a piece
of property that the City didn’t even have clear title to, that was
still in litigation 7 yrs later–to the delight of the lawyers
involved! The sports complex itself is a nice addition to the
community but a huge money pit, not the profit-generator she claimed it
would be. She also supported bonds for $5.5m for road projects that
could have been done in 5-7 yrs without any borrowing.
While Mayor, City Hall was extensively remodeled and her office
redecorated more than once.
These are small numbers, but Wasilla is a very small city.
As an oil producer, the high price of oil has created a budget surplus
in Alaska. Rather than invest this surplus in technology that will
make us energy independent and increase efficiency, as Governor she
proposed distribution of this surplus to every individual in the state.
In this time of record state revenues and budget surpluses, she
recommended that the state borrow/bond for road projects, even while
she proposed distribution of surplus state revenues: spend today’s
surplus, borrow for needs.
She’s not very tolerant of divergent opinions or open to outside ideas
or compromise. As Mayor, she fought ideas that weren’t generated by
her or her staff. Ideas weren’t evaluated on their merits, but on the
basis of who proposed them.
While Sarah was Mayor of Wasilla she tried to fire our highly respected
City Librarian because the Librarian refused to consider removing from
the library some books that Sarah wanted removed. City residents
rallied to the defense of the City Librarian and against Palin’s
attempt at out-and-out censorship, so Palin backed down and withdrew
her termination letter. People who fought her attempt to oust the
Librarian are on her enemies list to this day.
Sarah complained about the “old boy’s club” when she first ran for
Mayor, so what did she bring Wasilla? A new set of “old boys”. Palin
fired most of the experienced staff she inherited. At the City and as
Governor she hired or elevated new, inexperienced, obscure people,
creating a staff totally dependent on her for their jobs and eternally
grateful and fiercely loyal–loyal to the point of abusing their power
to further her personal agenda, as she has acknowledged happened in the
case of pressuring the State’s top cop (see below).
As Mayor, Sarah fired Wasilla’s Police Chief because he “intimidated”
her, she told the press. As Governor, her recent firing of Alaska’s top
cop has the ring of familiarity about it. He served at her pleasure
and she had every legal right to fire him, but it’s pretty clear that
an important factor in her decision to fire him was because he wouldn’t
fire her sister’s ex-husband, a State Trooper. Under investigation
for abuse of power, she has had to admit that more than 2 dozen
contacts were made between her staff and family to the person that she
later fired, pressuring him to fire her ex-brother-in-law. She tried to
replace the man she fired with a man who she knew had been reprimanded
for sexual harassment; when this caused a public furor, she withdrew
her support.
She has bitten the hand of every person who extended theirs to her in
help. The City Council person who personally escorted her around town
introducing her to voters when she first ran for Wasilla City Council
became one of her first targets when she was later elected Mayor. She
abruptly fired her loyal City Administrator; even people who didn’t
like the guy were stunned by this ruthlessness.
Fear of retribution has kept all of these people from saying anything
publicly about her.
When then-Governor Murkowski was handing out political plums, Sarah got
the best, Chair of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission: one
of the few jobs not in Juneau and one of the best paid. She had no
background in oil & gas issues. Within months of scoring this great
job which paid $122,400/yr, she was complaining in the press about the
high salary. I was told that she hated that job: the commute, the
structured hours, the work. Sarah became aware that a member of this
Commission (who was also the State Chair of the Republican Party)
engaged in unethical behavior on the job. In a gutsy move which some
undoubtedly cautioned her could be political suicide, Sarah solved all
her problems in one fell swoop: got out of the job she hated and
garnered gobs of media attention as the patron saint of ethics and as a
gutsy fighter against the “old boys’ club” when she dramatically quit,
exposing this man’s ethics violations (for which he was fined).
As Mayor, she had her hand stuck out as far as anyone for pork from
Senator Ted Stevens. Lately, she has castigated his pork-barrel
politics and publicly humiliated him. She only opposed the “bridge to
nowhere” after it became clear that it would be unwise not to.
As Governor, she gave the Legislature no direction and budget
guidelines, then made a big grandstand display of line-item vetoing
projects, calling them pork. Public outcry and further legislative
action restored most of these projects–which had been vetoed simply
because she was not aware of their importance–but with the unobservant
she had gained a reputation as “anti-pork”.
She is solidly Republican: no political maverick. The State party
leaders hate her because she has bit them in the back and humiliated
them. Other members of the party object to her self-description as a
fiscal conservative.
Around Wasilla there are people who went to high school with Sarah.
They call her “Sarah Barracuda” because of her unbridled ambition and
predatory ruthlessness. Before she became so powerful, very ugly
stories circulated around town about shenanigans she pulled to be made
point guard on the high school basketball team. When Sarah’s
mother-in-law, a highly respected member of the community and
experienced manager, ran for Mayor, Sarah refused to endorse her.
As Governor, she stepped outside of the box and put together of package
of legislation known as “AGIA” that forced the oil companies to march
to the beat of her drum.
Like most Alaskans, she favors drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife
Refuge. She has questioned if the loss of sea ice is linked to
global warming. She campaigned “as a private citizen” against a state
initiaitive that would have either a) protected salmon streams from
pollution from mines, or b) tied up in the courts all mining in the
state (depending on who you listen to). She has pushed the State’s
lawsuit against the Dept. of the Interior’s decision to list polar
bears as threatened species.
McCain is the oldest person to ever run for President; Sarah will be a
heartbeat away from being President.
There has to be literally millions of Americans who are more
knowledgeable and experienced than she.
However, there’s a lot of people who have underestimated her and are
regretting it.
CLAIM VS FACT
*”Hockey mom”: true for a few years
*”PTA mom”: true years ago when her first-born was in elementary
school, not since
*”NRA supporter”: absolutely true
*social conservative: mixed. Opposes gay marriage, BUT vetoed a bill
that would have denied benefits to employees in same-sex relationships
(said she did this because it was unconsitutional).
*pro-creationism: mixed. Supports it, BUT did nothing as Governor to
promote it.
*”Pro-life”: mixed. Knowingly gave birth to a Down’s syndrome baby
BUT declined to call a special legislative session on some pro-life
legislation
*”Experienced”: Some high schools have more students than Wasilla has
residents. Many cities have more residents than the state of Alaska.
No legislative experience other than City Council. Little hands-on
supervisory or managerial experience; needed help of a city
administrator to run town of about 5,000.
*political maverick: not at all
*gutsy: absolutely!
*open & transparent: ??? Good at keeping secrets. Not good at
explaining actions.
*has a developed philosophy of public policy: no
*”a Greenie”: no. Turned Wasilla into a wasteland of big box stores
and disconnected parking lots. Is pro-drilling off-shore and in ANWR.
*fiscal conservative: not by my definition!
*pro-infrastructure: No. Promoted a sports complex and park in a city
without a sewage treatment plant or storm drainage system. Built
streets to early 20th century standards.
*pro-tax relief: Lowered taxes for businesses, increased tax burden on
residents
*pro-small government: No. Oversaw greatest expansion of city
government in Wasilla’s history.
*pro-labor/pro-union. No. Just because her husband works union
doesn’t make her pro-labor. I have seen nothing to support any claim
that she is pro-labor/pro-union.
WHY AM I WRITING THIS?
First, I have long believed in the importance of being an informed
voter. I am a voter registrar. For 10 years I put on student voting
programs in the schools. If you google my name (Anne, last name redacted
Alaska), you will find references to my participation in local
government, education, and PTA/parent organizations.
Secondly, I’ve always operated in the belief that “Bad things happen
when good people stay silent”. Few people know as much as I do because
few have gone to as many City Council meetings.
Third, I am just a housewife. I don’t have a job she can bump me out
of. I don’t belong to any organization that she can hurt. But, I am no
fool; she is immensely popular here, and it is likely that this will
cost me somehow in the future: that’s life.
Fourth, she has hated me since back in 1996, when I was one of the 100
or so people who rallied to support the City Librarian against Sarah’s
attempt at censorship.
Fifth, I looked around and realized that everybody else was afraid to
say anything because they were somehow vulnerable.
CAVEATS
I am not a statistician. I developed the numbers for the increase in
spending & taxation 2 years ago (when Palin was running for Governor)
from information supplied to me by the Finance Director of the City of
Wasilla, and I can’t recall exactly what I adjusted for: did I adjust
for inflation? for population increases? Right now, it is impossible
for a private person to get any info out of City Hall–they are
swamped. So I can’t verify my numbers.
You may have noticed that there are various numbers circulating for the
population of Wasilla, ranging from my “about 5,000″, up to 9,000. The
day Palin’s selection was announced a city official told me that the
current population is about 7,000. The official 2000 census count was
5,460. I have used about 5,000 because Palin was Mayor from 1996 to
2002, and the city was growing rapidly in the mid-90′s.
Posted by: christopher | September 3, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am
As a Republican I can’t believe McCain’s pick for VP. Seriously, if using the standards the McCain campaign has been tossing out, Palin is more qualified than McCain himself. LAUGHABLE! This woman is a joke who is not only NOT qualified, but her relgious beliefs scare me.
Posted by: Kim in GA | September 3, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am
I agree with Ashame. this is so out of control.So much hate.pointing figures at everyone.No wonder why everyone hates us.We can’t even like ourself s.
Posted by: I Agree | September 3, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am
I wanna hear what her pastor said in past sermons. I wanna read her spouses comments. I am all for treating this poor white thrash neo con equal. Expose her for what she really is and why McCain really picked her.
Ironic how you people can dish it out when it is Sen. Obama but can’t take scrutinity when it it is your own candidate. This know nothing bimbo is the worst pick possible and really illustrates Gramp’s lack of judgement.
Posted by: chris c | September 3, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am
Palin is a religious extremist who is dangerous. Even mainstream protestants are afraid of her weird beliefs, one of which is speaking in tongues.
Posted by: Fanatic | September 3, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am
The greatest measure of McCain’s lack of judgment is his selection of Palin as VP candidate. He didn’t know what he didn’t know and yet he jumped in with both feet. We don’t know Palin at all, and apparently neither does McCain. He had to look down at his cheat sheet to get her name when he introduced her. He spent about fifteen minutes in total speaking with her prior to the announcement of her candidacy. His decision to go along with this candidate speaks worlds about McCain’s poor judgment. Palin has not been thoroughly vetted, he just sent a team to Alaska to nose around, and this is a serious lapse in judgment. . If as claimed, McCain knew about the poor kid who is pregnant, as totally irrelevant as that is, he had to also have known there would be a huge media storm distracting from his campaign. Furthermore, she is deeply involved in a political scandal concerning abuse of her official powers. Is this the best the Republican Party has to offer?? A lightweight, anti-choice, creationist, anti-animal, anti-environment, pro-oil candidate who won her limited fame on right-wing radio talk shows? The thought that she would be a heartbeat away from the presidency in light of her gross inexperience and McCain’s age and health- is absolutely terrifying. More importantly, McCain has clearly demonstrated significant lack of judgment which disqualifies him for the highest office in the land.
Posted by: jefflz | September 3, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am
Will those people who are complaining about “smear tactics”, please be even handed about it?
If you’re going to complain about the rumor about Trig not being Sarah’s (a rumor that’s been in national circulation for all of three days), then complain about the rumor that Obama is a Muslim (which, though consistsntly disproven, is still in circulation) or that Michelle Obama rants about “whitey” (which, again has been proven false, but is still around).
ALL of these smears are just distractions. Let Palin stand up and talk about her positions, plans, promises and record. Then judge her based on these and some straightforward fact-checking. It’s that simple.
Posted by: philko | September 3, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am
There is some evidence that Palin’s church preaches Neo-Pentacostal Dominionism, which says that the country should become, in essence, a Theocracy. These people believe that Jesus will not come back to rule over the earth until the “church” takes over all temporal power, including governments. They believe their job is to help make that happen by infiltration. This is truly scary.
Posted by: Doc DB | September 3, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am
Oh, here we go … the Republicans, as always, are now spinning this whole matter as sexism. It is so typical Republican propaganda, and it’s amusing how some people are biting. To those that commented that they will switch their votes from Hillary to Sarah, because she’s also a woman – guess what, that is also sexism. You are only voting for someone because she is a woman, and not really looking at what she really stands for as a person, and as a politician. I for one do not care whether she is a woman or a man. Any new and pretty unknown person running for VP should go through this type of scrutiny. I want as much information about her to be revealed (good or bad). Do we want to find out about these things once she is in office – when it is to late to make a decision on her?
Posted by: John | September 3, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am
So if Obama is to be held accountable for what his one-time whack-job pastor, Rev. Wright, says from the pulpit, shouldn’t Palin be held accountable as well for her church’s outlandish beliefs? Or does the GOP want to apply a double standard, as they are so good at?
Posted by: Doc DB | September 3, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am
whats with all the name calling bimbo, extremist.and calling her daughter names. What has this country come to when adults act like kids. we are in so much trouble.
Posted by: hmmm | September 3, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am
The right wing clarification is complete. Palin was not a member of the secessionist party, BUT HER HUSBAND WAS.
Posted by: Bruce Becker | September 3, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am
Palin’s minister Brickner described terrorist attacks on Israelis as God’s “judgment of unbelief” on Jews who haven’t converted to Christianity.
Palin was in church that day, Kroon said
Posted by: Bruce Becker | September 3, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am
christopher – usually I skip the long posts, assuming they are just some article cut and paste. But thanks for taking the time to write all that. Very interesting.
Posted by: Paul | September 3, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am
The Palin policy: DONT ASK, DONT TELL.
DONT EDUCATE THE YOUNG.
DONT PROVIDE CONTRACEPTIVES.
And my personal favorite, global warming policy by Bibllical retort: there can be no global warming because the planet is only 5000 years old. There was no ice age.
And she was not a member of the secessionist party but her husband was.
Posted by: Bruce Becker | September 3, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am
I’m for Obama through and through, but I have to say I LOVE the energy Sarah Palin brings to her appearances. And, the Repubs are right, the more Sarah Palin gets bashed, the more it becomes a question of us vs. them and women vs. men and right vs. wrong … and the issues get left on the sidelines, while we knee-jerk our way into a decision based on pure, raw, I’ll-get-back-at-you emotion.
I don’t know Sarah Palin. Her appearances suggest dynamism and energy. If she’s made decisions stick in Alaska, that ROCKS.
My worry goes in a different direction. The world has changed dramatically. And, no, I’m not talking about the continuing strife and wars. I’m talking about technology, about instant communication, about money moving at internet speeds, about WHO does WHAT, WHERE and WHEN for WHOM. This new way of working and getting paid for it is STILL BEING CREATED as we speak.
The problem is that since this is so new, no-one truly understands it. AND NO ONE PERSON HAS THE ANSWER because the QUESTIONS haven’t yet been framed correctly.
That’s why I’m worried that McCain is not the answer. I think he relies too much on his own gut. That’s why I’m worried about Palin – I don’t know enough about her so that’s one risk; and what I do hear tends to be about effectiveness around business-as-usual, but not about complex issues.
That’s why I AM for Obama. As I’ve watched over the last year or so, I’ve seen him inspiring people, raising issues, coming up with ideas, listening and adjusting his positions as he learns more about different sides of complex issues. That’s why I was impressed when he chose Biden. He’ll need insights into not only the issues, but the existing decision making processes (read how Congress works) to BE effective.
Bill Gates had no experience but look at Microsoft. Look at the guys who are building Google. These are SMART people who recognize the world is changing, and have found ways to be effective.
Today we need a smart person, who can ask the right questions, and inspire people to come up with answers and implement them. He also needs SUPPORT from experience: a person like Biden who knows how things work, and HOW those can be changed to meet our new challenges.
We are in the process of CREATING the next set of deep values for our families, for the families of global citizens, and for the preservation of our planet.
Posted by: Mandeep | September 3, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am
hamishdad…Let’s see that’s an Indonesian name isn’t it…Now where have I heard “Indonesian” mentioned with regards to our current election…hmmmmm..BTW hamishdad is a professional paid blogger…Try changing your name to Frank or Dave or I know “Paul”
Posted by: Curious Indep | September 3, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am
It’s interesting how people are now claiming the media is being sexist. People are asking questions because they don’t know anything about her!!
And enough already with the GOP tagline that Palin has more “executive experience.” Please if that’s the case, she has more “executive experience” than John McCain and Joe Biden.
Trying to glorify her as a “reformer” will backfire as well. She was for the Bridge to Nowhere before she was against it. She lobbied for earmarks for Wasilla and the state, and she supported Ted Stevens 527 before she railed against him.
Palin was picked in order to satisfy the conservative base, and to garner disaffected Clinton voters. McCain really wanted Liberman, but was pressured to choose someone he had only met twice. Yeah, somekind of maverick he’s proven himself to be!!
Posted by: Jennifer | September 3, 2008, 11:52 am 11:52 am
half you people are hypocrites. I bet you know , or even have parents who were pregnate at 17. its not that uncommon , hell even obama’s mother was 17 when , oops she was pregnant with the little Muslim.
Posted by: Big TX | September 3, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am
jennifer u do realize that obama was trying to say he had executive expirence because he handles his campaign??? The funny thing is the dumbnut doesn’t run it his campaign manager does. HEHE he’s such a tool!
Posted by: Big TX | September 3, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am
Big TX, you are a Big-Ot. You know very well he is not a Muslim and never has been.
Posted by: Doc DB | September 3, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am
Even the Obama campaign has its ultra-fringe fanatics and they are out in force spitting and spewing their leftist brand of hatred. They tried to sling garbage at Governor Palin, even using the subject of her young daughter’s pregnancy as a reason not to vote for her. Well it didn’t work. The Republican ticket has what Republicans want; a fiscal conservative who is an advocate for the unborn, an advocate for the right to bear arms, a family much like that in everyday America, and a strict interpreter of the Constitution. She has proven that she is a responsive representative of her constituents needs and not a slave to a social agenda. She has an approval rating of 80% and is fast on her feet.
If desperate untethered liberals want to continue showing their true colors; then I say, good riddance. They will learn want David Axelrod and a now permanently crippled Obama campaign learned recently when they shot themselves in the foot through snippy remarks and one sided attacks with no substance to back what they say. Don’t forget to vote.
–McCAIN-PALIN ’08–
Posted by: Back From Iraq | September 3, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am
People like you that spread outlandish lies are despicable.
Posted by: Doc DB | September 3, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am
After Palins speech the big screen behind her onstage will have a short video with Pat Robertson approving her message.
Posted by: Apocalypse Tonight | September 3, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am
Back From Iraq, have you examined McCain’s record on military and veteran’s issues? It is deplorable. He was against the new GI Bill. He voted against seven different bills that would have increased veterans health care. He voted against flack vests for Guard and Reserve troops. He voted against the mandatory rest period between deployments. The Disabled American Veterans gave him a 20% rating on vet’s issues; the Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America gave him a letter grade of D. McCain pretends to be a big supporter of troops and vets, and then stabs them in the back. He is a hypocrite. This is one vet (1970-72) who is not fooled.
Posted by: Doc DB | September 3, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm
Obama lied on his application to the illionis bar for failing to report his other names. Barry Soetora,Barack Duham,Barry Duham.. When he was adopted by his father mr Duham he became a citizen of Indonesia.Did he get his U S citizen ship paper? and if he did when? He didn’t want people to know about his other names because of what he did under those name. look the names up. You saying dirt about Palin how about some dirt on Obama. hmm fair play.And can a President of the U.S.A have dual citizen ship? He was a muslin and active in black rights.(to get rid of white people look it up)for awhile. how do we know if he doesn’t still feel that way? just because he say’s so. hmm
Posted by: FairPlay | September 3, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm
Gotta say Christopher reading your “essay” brings up memories of most of my university professors, read the first 7 chapters and provide critiques of all by our next meeting…..PAINFUL TO GET THROUGH….I have a real problem with information provided without the sources cited..BECOMES JUST ANOTHER OPINION BASED UPON RUMORS..
Posted by: CuriousIndep | September 3, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm
By the way, on veterans and military legislation, the DAV gave Obama an 80% rating. The IAVA gave him a letter grade of B+
Posted by: Doc DB | September 3, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm
Doc DB,
You’re right, Obama is not a Muslim; he’s not a Christian either; he’s a self centered, self proclaimed prophet of the ultra left who thinks he can create some sort of undefined change and form us all in his image. Sounds more like an Eastern Cult to me. Regardless, he will never be president and commander-in-chief; his handler and trainer David Axelrod saw to that.
–McCAIN-PALIN ’08–
Posted by: Back From Iraq | September 3, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm
Right, trust in the ethical, moral Karl Rove!
Posted by: Doc DB | September 3, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm
But Back from Iraq,
aren’t you concerned about McCain’s horrible record on vet’s issues?
Posted by: Doc DB | September 3, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm
The left and its think tanks, the Main Stream Media, are scared to death of Sarah Palin. This is fantastic!
Posted by: Norman | September 3, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm
Big TX,
Admittedly, Obama shouldn’t have taken the bait on that question. The problem with this “executive experience” tagline that the GOP has produced won’t last for very long. McCain has never ran a city or a state for that matter, so does that make him not qualified?
Unlike John McCain, Obama is the one who makes the final decisions on how his campaign is run. McCain was pressured by his staff to pick Palin, that’s not country first, that’s caving in to your base.
Posted by: Jennifer | September 3, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
McCain passed over Romney for this fruitcake? Mitt had no baggage, was a successful businessman, and a governor.
Posted by: Romney Fan | September 3, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
I Thought SARAH PALIN was a Religious conservative. FIRING her small TOWN Police Chief just to keep the bars open?
The Washington Independent reported on Monday that another Sarah Palin firing scandal had been overlooked:
Early in her tenure as mayor, the city council threatened to recall her over accusations that she fired the city’s police chief, Irl Stambaugh, and the library director, Mary Ellen Emmons, without warning. She accused them in a letter saying: “I do not feel I have your full support in my efforts to govern the city of Wasilla. Therefore I intend to terminate your employment …” (The Anchorage Daily News, via nexis)
Ultimately, Palin let the library director have her job back; though Stambaugh’s position was not returned. The police chief took the matter to court, where a judge sided with Palin, saying city law allows the mayor to fire the police chief without cause.
ABC News today gives more information on this scandal. The police chief says he was fired because her campaign contributors, including bars and the NRA, didn’t like his work:
After taking over as Mayor of the small town of Wasilla, Palin fired the longtime local police chief. The former police chief, Irl Stambaugh says he was fired because he stepped on the toes of Palin’s campaign contributors, including bar owners and the National Rifle Association.
Stambaugh’s lawyer, William Jermain, says the chief tried to move up the closing hours of local bars from 5 a.m. to two a.m. after a spurt of drunk driving accidents and arrests.
“His crackdown on that practice by the bars was not appreciated by her and that was one reason she terminated Irl,” said Jermain.
Palin the gift that just keeps on giving!!
Vote for real leaders Obama/Biden ’08!!!
Posted by: Davis | September 3, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
As a combat vet myself, I am outraged at McCain’s duplicity. He does not hesitate to exploit his POW status at every opportunity and then turn around and desert the veterans who have sacrificed so much. He should be ashamed, but he has no shame.
Posted by: Doc DB | September 3, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
Uh oh – guess the Palin pick isn’t working out so well for the Republicans. They’re back to “issues” like Obama’s secret decoder Indonesian name.
Posted by: Paul | September 3, 2008, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm
LOL, good one Paul
Posted by: Doc DB | September 3, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
Doc DB,
Like you, my wife and I are both wartime veterans and members of DAV. Having recently returned from duty in Iraq with regular, reserve and National Guard personnel, I can assure you that Obama is not well thought of by the majority of personnel who consider him, as well as Pelosi, Reid, Kennedy, Feinstein, Clinton, and what are openly referred to as fifth columnists and traitors to our efforts and successes against the enemy.
Concerning the new GI Bill; it is a good bill, as was the alternate bill proposed by Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) but for now unfunded and uncertain in the future. Concerning other veterans’ issues; the Department of Veterans’ Affairs has received more funding under the Bush Administration than the Clinton Administration with only the Reagan Administration coming second. VA health care and administrative services are now better coordinated and more cost effective than other private and public healthcare in America; all under this administration and due to the efforts of conservatives like John McCain. Don’t expect it to continue to improve under a Democratic regeme.
While I am a member of DAV, I am also a member of American Legion who gives John McCain overwhelming support.
–McCain-Palin ’08–
Posted by: Back From Iraq | September 3, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm
Doc DB: “As a combat vet myself, I am outraged at McCain’s duplicity.”
Ditto. I ran a Marine arty gunline during Desert Storm.
If you want to understand McCain, consider what Navy officers mean when they snidely refer to their “enlisted friends.” And boat schoolers are the worst. It doesn’t surprise me at all that McCain would say something like: we can’t offer college to these guys, because some might go.
And yes, he really said that.
By the way, if you know what Navy officers do mean when they refer to their “enlisted friends,” then consider how McCain calls everyone his friend. Not a doubt in my mind what he’s really saying.
Posted by: Paul | September 3, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
Fair enough, Back. Thank you for your service and your sacrifice and that of your wife. I still am very disappointed in McCain’s voting record on these issues. It has made the difference in my decision.
Posted by: Doc DB | September 3, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
The only image Palin needs to worry about is that fine anatomical prowess of hers. I am hoping we finally get a swimsuit VP calendar once she’s in office. I bet she knocks ‘em dead with those fine curves, full figure and sex-appeal! That’s all I need for a good image! She doesn’t need to have any more experience than she has already! YUMMY!
Posted by: John Adamston | September 3, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
Back from Iraq: “Having recently returned from duty in Iraq with regular, reserve and National Guard personnel, I can assure you that Obama is not well thought of by the majority of personnel who consider him…”
I have to tell you, I’m retired from the Marines but now work as a civilian on a Marine Corps base. I’m seeing a lot more Obama bumperstickers than McCain bumperstickers.
And among officers, I know of many who were pretty shocked with McCain’s response to the Georgian situation. Raised a lot of eyebrows among people who understand the implications of his kneejerk statements.
Posted by: Paul | September 3, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
Even more outrageous is the picture of McCain standing behind Bush as he signed the new GI Bill. He was against it, did not show up the day of the vote on the bill, and yet was there ready to take credit.
Posted by: Doc DB | September 3, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
Doc DB
Thank you for your fine service too. No candidate will ever be everything to all people; I just have to go with what I see before me and commit. Regardless of who wins, constant interactive participation between elections is a must these days.
Posted by: Back From Iraq | September 3, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm
Women are not getting angrier every minute because someone says something bad about Palin. I’m a woman in every way, and that woman should not be on anyone’s ticket. I’m not a woman who wants a pitty party, either we deserve it or not. She’s the worse person McCain could have chosen. Stop blaming her inexperience and choices on liberals. She is what she is. If she were on the democratic ticket, I’d feel just the same. Some of us just can’t imagine supporting an African American, end of story. Even if American will fall harder than the past eight years, at least that democrat isn’t in office, right?
Posted by: No excuses | September 3, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
Here’s irony for you: I recently ordered a new US Army Veteran baseball cap from a great on-line surplus site. When the cap came, it had a tag saying “Made in Vietnam.” I thought my, how the worm has turned! But hey, forgive and forget, life is short. They even have some upscale resorts that they are marketing to Americans!
Posted by: Doc DB | September 3, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
If Palin is such a poor McCain choice and an inept VP candidate, then why does the left criticize her at all? McCain made a foolish decision and he will lose, right? I mean, Obama has his 50% in the polls now. He’s the superior candidate, right? There’s nothing to worry about. It’s all in the bag.
Posted by: Jim in OH | September 3, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
backfromiraq…docdb is not EXACTLY correct in his comment:
At issue on the James Webb GI Bill was that McCain opposed the measure, as the Pentagon, “out of concern that providing such a benefit, full-ride college scholarships, after only three years of service would encourage people to leave the military after completing only one enlistment even as the US fights two wars is trying to increase the size of the Army and Marine Corps.” He, McCain, and fellow repubs co-sponsored a bill that would increase benefits in conjunction with a veteran’s length of service. USATODAY Article: McCain,Obama spar over new GI bill proposal, 05/22/2008
docdb… AVA grade of D was a grade given nearly 3 years ago..look toward this Fall for the new rating .
WELCOME BACK….Someone VERY SPECIAL TO ME just got back from their 2nd tour to the “sandbox.”
Posted by: CuriousIndep | September 3, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
No excuses, fine, if women aren’t upset about the attacks on Palin, then McCain will lose and you have nothing to worry about. Just sit back, relax, and celebrate Obama’s victory in November.
Posted by: Jim in OH | September 3, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
Noexcuses…It is not Palin who is at issue here..it’s her kids and husband who are being slammed by some left-wing bloggers…Look at her and her policies..Her kids and husband will have no affect on future government policy…just as Obama’s family will have not affect
Posted by: CuriousIndep | September 3, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
Left wingnuts are saying that she should have the right to abort the baby to an unwed mother.
Well Obammma’s mother was also unwed when she got pregnant. Where would he/we be today if she had done that?
You wouldn’t be chanting CHANGE, CHANGE, CHANGE.
Palin/McCain 08
Posted by: LarryMan | September 3, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
REPUBLICAN SHOT GUN WEDDING?
On the father-to-be, Levi Johnston: “On his MySpace page, he calls himself a ‘redneck’ who likes to snowboard and ride dirt bikes… But mostly loves hockey,”
ABC’s Lisa Fletcher reports. “He’s in a relationship but quote, “doesn’t want kids.” Personal revelations on a Website page that has now been taken down.”
Now they have dragged this guy into the spotlight today, and further embarrassed both him and Bristol. I thought the Republicans said this was a PRIVATE family matter? Well they just made it about as PUBLIC as you can get!!!!
Palin the gift that keeps on giving!!!!
Posted by: Davis | September 3, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
The SS Palin the “sinking ship?”
On Tuesday independent political analyst Charlie Cook said: “She can’t take on a whole lot more water.”
And somebody’s talking on the inside: “A GOP source with close ties to the campaign said that McCain aides ‘vetted her through Google and clipping services, ” Barabak writes. ”
If instead of looking like a hockey mom, she looks like a person from a weird family, this could sink her,’ said one GOP strategist who requested anonymity to speak candidly.”
Looks like she was vetted really good there McDummy! But we used “the Google says the McCain Campaign!”
Palin, the gift that just keeps on Giving!!!
Posted by: Davis | September 3, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
BTW doc db Obama got a B+ from DAV Yes, however he was only a Senator for a few months…Fact: Obama voted 80 percent for Disabled American Veterans in 2005, in 2006 he recieved the B+….Obama became a Senator in 2005, January???? So that B+ is based upon just a few months as a Senator…as he only has 3 plus years experience and campaigned for 20 months of that…Qualified to be President????
Posted by: CuriousIndep | September 3, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
Jerry! Jerry! Jerry! Jerry!
Posted by: Tom | September 3, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
I thought the Republicans said this was a PRIVATE family matter? Well they just made it about as PUBLIC as you can get!!!!
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Nothing says family values like parading around the babydaddy of your teenage daughter at a political convention watched by millions of people AFTER requesting that the media stay out of family business.
The GOP is officially the hot mess of the year.
Posted by: Steve R. | September 3, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
CuriousIndep,
I remember there was indeed some concern about people leaving the services early to cash in on their VA Educational Benefits. The bill proposed by Senator Lindsey Graham started out with about the same monetarily, but commenced after a longer time in service and with increasing benefits tied into length of service. Of course, injured veterans regardless of time in service would fall under the VA Chapter 31 bill which would also be enhanced monetarily and provide greater benefits than those received by uninjured veterans. The bill was still in the works when the present bill authored by Senator James Webb was implemented instead, so we may never know what the Graham plan would have looked like in its finished state.
Truthfully, in all fairness to both sides, there doesn’t seem to be any grand exodus from the Armed Forces to collect VA benefits. That is probably due to what I see as a combination of patriotism, a determination to complete the victory in Iraq and Afghanistan, and no doubt, the absolute best pay and benefits the U.S. Armed Forces have ever experienced. My recent experience too shows support among the troops for a president and legislators who support them. When I was in Iraq, neither the president, nor any conservative congressman could make the trip without experiencing the genuine closeness and admiration of the troops. I didn’t see that when Bill Clinton made visits to deployed troops, neither does one hear fond remarks from the troops concerning Obama’s “visit” to deployed troops several weeks ago, especially his refusal to see injured troops.
This election is between polar opposites in how an American democratic republic should be defended, administered and interpreted. From what I see as a veteran with recent service in Iraq, and who now lives and works in a large military community, I have no doubt that the men and women of the military, though diverse, will show far greater support for McCain, than an Obama regime.
Posted by: Back From Iraq | September 3, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
I can’t wait for Obama to be president so I can quit my job and get free things! No taxes ’cause I’ll have no income above poverty! Hey, no incentive to work feels great – thanks Mr. Community O(rganizer).
Posted by: greg | September 3, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
Our country is facing serious issues. And here comes Palin with so much baggage. The real issues are diverted. Much is still unknown about her.We dont know what more are out there. I dont understand why GOPs are so willing to take so much risk. Maybe its their pride and just wanna to stick to their decision however wrong it is. It comes down to Maccain’s judgement and decision making. It highlights his tendency to be temperamental and compulsive. That is not a good quality of a leader.
Posted by: ROME | September 3, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
I dont understand why GOPs are so willing to take so much risk. Maybe its their pride and just wanna to stick to their decision however wrong it is.
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This is why the GOP is so scared right now. They know McCain made a horrible decision (if he even made the decision at all, but that just calls into question another one of his many problems).
Posted by: Steve R. | September 3, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
If I was a Republican I would be beating my head against the wall right now!!!
None of you Republican trolls here can deny that McDummy’s poor pick of Palin for VP, has thrown your whole campaign off message and stopped your attack!!!
You dummies will spend every waking minute left in this campaign defending McCain’s poor choice of VP and his horrible JUDGMENT!!!
In fact that is the NEW theme of the Obama campaign – JUDGMENT!!
Thank you John McCain!!!
Posted by: Davis | September 3, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
The RNC is out trying to HIRE “people of color” off the streets of St. Paul right now!!
If you are HOMELESS and a person of color the Republicans are finally going to give you a job!!!
After last nights display of a 99% Lilly White crowd of fat, bald and rich looking white people attending their convention, they need an IMAGE CHANGE in a HURRY!!!!!
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Davis | September 3, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
Gee, the statutes are clear in Alaska; Any underage sex with an adult is a punishable offense. Baby daddy was 18 already before Bristol was even close to consensual sex…
Maybe the governor of Alaska can intervene here, LOL
POOR JUDGMENT ALL AROUND!
Posted by: John | September 3, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
You need to read “A note to all by Anne Kilkenny”. A longtime resident of Wasilla, Anne has known Palin since 1992 and decided to give the facts of Palin’s tenure in Wasilla, since most people were too scared to do so. It’s not a pretty picture.
Her reason? “First, I have long believed in the importance of being an informed
voter. I am a voter registrar. For 10 years I put on student voting
programs in the schools. If you google my name (Anne Kilkenny +
Alaska), you will find references to my participation in local
government, education, and PTA/parent organizations.
Secondly, I’ve always operated in the belief that “Bad things happen
when good people stay silent”. Few people know as much as I do because
few have gone to as many City Council meetings.”
Her link: http://www.andrys.com/palin-kilkenny.html
Forget the illegitimate baby…that’s small potatoes compared to all the other stuff that’s going to come out; believe me, it’s pretty amazing. I’ve been tracking this for days, weeding out rumor from fact.
Posted by: NMJ | September 3, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
Republicans seem to value image more than substance. And they want to control that image. They did the same with GWB until his incompetence couldn’t be hidden. Republicans have nobody to blame but John McCain for letting Palin’s “image” get away from them. What he expect with a last minute decision to select an unknown governor of a remote state.
Posted by: indy_voter | September 3, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
Jim in OH,
Palin is no feminist since as far as I know she does not support any issues real feminists care about. She is simply a women trying to balance a career and her family. I do not have a problem with that. What I do have a problem with is her positions on issues and the hypocrisy in the Republican party in their support for her. All of a sudden Republicans are okay with the obvious sacrifices to family in pursuit of her career. She has five children, one with special needs that she either takes on the campaign trail with her or must leave with others to take care of. If she were a Democrat she would be villified for that…
Posted by: indy_voter | September 3, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
For those who are interested….Sarah Palin won the 1999 Wasilla mayor race with a total of 909 votes….Again, a total of 909 votes….She lost the Alaska lieutenant governorship primary in 2002 with a total of 19,114 votes. Yet she somehow managed to run for governor in 2006 where she garnered a total of 114,000 votes….And with such a groundswell of support McCain chooses her to be his running mate? Those who want to talk about Obama’s lack of experience need to understand that the man has garnered 18 million votes already from primaries….almost 100 times the votes Palin garnered in all her elections combined. Come election day Obama will have been under scrutiny of the American people for 18 months. Palin will have been under scrutiny for two months. And those who want to bash Obama, his association with Rev. Wright wasn’t made public until several months into the primary season. McCain and Republicans are basically saying trust us on Palin. I for one will not be fooled and hope others aren’t either. And Republicans should only blame themselves for this fiasco not the media…
Posted by: indy_voter | September 3, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
Dianne,
As opposed to you listening to all sides before making a decision. Abortion rights means you have a choice. If you want to keep the baby it is your choice. If you want to abort the baby it is your choice. Not the state’s. Conservatives like to talk about liberty unless it is someone elses. Conservatives like to talk about personal responsibility as long as it is someone elses.
Posted by: indy_voter | September 3, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
Smart voters should not put a bet on someone whose background is not very clear and questionable. Palin’s history appears to be very shady. I wonder what more will come out. She has totally turned the campaign season into a circus. Real issues got diverted. I will never vote for someone who has a doubtful history. I dont want to regret later on. At least now, I know Obama and Biden more. I also know Mccaine, that is why I am not voting for him.
Posted by: ROME | September 3, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
LarryMan,
You and all your pro-life friends always miss the point. It is up to women to choose not the government. Conservatives talk loudly about government staying out of people lives until it comes to their personal decisions.
Posted by: indy_voter | September 3, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
Smart voters should not put a bet on someone whose background is not very clear and questionable. Palin’s history appears to be very shady. I wonder what more will come out. She has totally turned the campaign season into a circus. Real issues got diverted. I will never vote for someone who has a doubtful history. I dont want to regret later on. At least now, I know Obama and Biden more. I also know Mccaine, that is why I am not voting for him.
Just like what happed to Bush. We voted for him and now, we have all the regrets. He is even the most hated and unpopular president. We should be smarter now and should learn from our experience.
Posted by: ROME | September 3, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
Let me see … McCain-Palin or Obama-Biden. Hmmmmm … gee, I have to make a decision … hmmmm … oh yeah, now I remember. Obama-Biden are Euro-socialists who would fold in a fight with terrorists, misinterpret our Constitution until it didn’t exist anymore, outlaw guns, parental rights, victim rights and a free market economy. They would cater to trial lawyers, criminals and the abortion industry. Meanwhile, McCain-Palin just like to p*ss everybody off; guess that’s why they’re mavericks. We’ll, in light of the choice here, I’ll take the mavericks.
–McCain-Palin ’08–
Posted by: Back From Iraq | September 3, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
Sarah has EXECTUTIVE experience *running a government* (something NONE of the other candidates can actually boast, even John McCain as Governor of Alaska and got there by defeating the *incumbent* Republican Governor, who was definitely part of the “old school” and who WAS very much in the pocket of the big oil companies. We in Alaska wanted change – and we got it in the person of Sarah Palin!
Sarah Palin is everything she looks to be and more. Her approval rating as Governor of Alaska has been as high as 95% and is currently leveled out consistently in the upper 80 percentile throughout the state (and in both parties) – the HIGHEST approval rating of ANY sitting Governor.
Posted by: GoUSA247 | September 3, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
Let’s just say something: If Obama picked Clinton as his VP, then, I would not even be interested in Palin, nor McCain. However, in the states (big primary states Democrats need to win), Clinton overwhelmingly beat Obama.
In Massachusetts, the vote was 58% to 42%. We are angered. And we are now interested in the McCain/Palin ticket. The more and more the media destroy Palin, without even understanding her positions, her toughness and her intelligence, the more and more, it’s helping us angry Clinton supporters to take a closer look at McCain and Palin. And, I tell you, as a Massachusetts Independent, who can’t stand Bush, McCain gets my vote and Palin does as well.
Posted by: Massachusetts4McCain&Palin | September 3, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
JOHN MCCAIN A TRUE AMERICAN TRAITOR PUTTING HIMSELF FIRST BEFORE HIS OWN COUNTRY.
ASK AMERICAN POWS THEY HAVE NOTHING BUT HAVING SHAME AND BE OFFENDED BY HIM WHILE KNOWING THAT HE WAS CRACKED AND
GAVE UP HIS COUNTRY TO COMMUNISTS PLAYING IN MOVIE AGAINST HIS OWN COUNTRY.
AMERICAN ENEMY MAY WANT THIS COWARD AND CROOK AS PRESIDENT BUT REAL AMERICAN HEROES NOT.
Posted by: kevin | September 4, 2008, 3:07 am 3:07 am
These charges of sexist treatment by the media are totally bogus. McCain’s very selection of her was inherently sexist. If she were a man with such sparse credentials, would McCain have chosen her? Over Romney, Lieberman, Pawlenty, and Jindal? No way. Why won’t McCain answer the question of why qualified women like Kay Bailey Hutchinson, Meg Whitman, Condi Rice, and Olympia Snowe weren’t on the final list?
Posted by: PalinObsessed | September 4, 2008, 3:59 am 3:59 am
Yes, indeed, Sarah Palin is everything she looks to be and more. All this stuff about her family is irrelevant and just a distraction. Wait until you hear about all the scandals that actually have to do with her performance as mayor and governor. That is her “executive experience,” after all, and should be fair game. You will not want her anywhere near the Oval Office.
Posted by: ConcernedforAmerica | September 4, 2008, 4:08 am 4:08 am
It is the same party for the last 8 years, just a different label. So if you want more of the last 8 years these are you people. John McCain has voted with his president 90% of the time and I don’t know if people can vote for a 10% chance on change.
Posted by: kent353 | September 4, 2008, 7:20 am 7:20 am