The Remaining Game Changers

I feel McCain will completely annihialate Obama in the debates. It’s very apparent that Obama cannot speak without a teleprompter or a speech written by Axelrod. On the other hand, McCain is a master in debates and will completely dominate.
McCain/Palin 08!
“Country First!”

Email your Congress Person and Tell Them
“NO MORE BAILOUTS”
by David Neal
09-21-08
On the 10th of June 2008, the Bank of International Settlements announced the largest gain in derivatives outstanding since they started to report on this. The notional value of all outstanding derivatives now totals approximately $1.144 QUADRILLION. That is 1144 TRILLION DOLLARS.
At the exchange rate this week (Wednesday), 35 trillion British Pounds was equivalent to U.S. $62 trillion. According to the International Swaps and Derivatives Association , $62 trillion is the notional value of credit default swaps (CDS) out there, somewhere, in the market. Credit default swaps are not standardized instruments. In fact, they technically aren’t true securities in the classic sense of the word in that they’re not transparent, aren’t traded on any exchange, aren’t subject to present securities laws, and aren’t regulated. They are, however, at risk – all $62 trillion of them.
These are TRILLIONS of Dollars not BILLIONS
Frustrated by the US government’s rescue of AIG, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, a group of 100 conservative congressmen today urged the Bush administration to stop keeping Wall Street afloat.
The RSC members, all serving in the House of Representatives, noted with alarm that the government action this week “has the appearance of a socialist and not a free market approach to managing our economy”.
Rescuing failing financial firms has “set a dangerous and unmistakable precedent for the federal government both to be looked to and relied upon to save private sector companies from the consequences of their poor economic decisions,” the RSC members wrote.
All while this was going on the Major Media could only talk of the “New Messiah”. Not one ounce of investigative journalism on the subject of who is liable for all this debt. Not one article, not a single word telling of the vast financial imbalances of leveraged monies, YOU our elected officials and the Big Banks have created.
Just 9 days ago Henry Paulson (i.e.. former CEO of one of The Banks Too Big to Fail, Goldman Sachs) told us “all is well”. He has no idea what to do or what will come of this or he is a liar.
The very same people that put us into this mess are the very same people advising the President and Congress on how to fix the problems they have created. This is insanity! The bailouts now being proposed are not bailing out American Workers but are bailing out the rest of the World on the backs of the AMERICAN TAXPAYER as if we don’t have a huge enough burden already.
The numbers posed by the Bank of International Settlements are staggering. Billion Dollar infusions will do nothing to stop the inevitable. A few weeks ago the billions and billions in infusions of American greenbacks probably helped delay, but did not repair the devastation. Today these same Billions of Dollars in bailouts are absorbed like a thirsty Whale.
I can tell Congress one thing is for sure, that a movement has started and I and many many more like me are going to stop paying our taxes if this insanity of bailouts is not stopped, now! And we will vote every congressperson out of office if they vote for anymore bailouts, period!!!
We are in historically unprecedented times. The foundation is being laid for a default of USTreasurys in the wake of the greatest regulatory failure in modern history (i.e.. the repeal of Glass-Steagall), and the collapse of the US financial system. If you look back, Paul Volker predicted this would happen if the newly appointed Alan Greenspan implemented his ideas to make more money for the banks.
When this happens the World will turn their backs on us and things will get nasty real quick. All we will be left with is the American citizens, to pick up the pieces and start over.
Congress needs to remember who butters it’s bread and start standing up for American Citizens like you were put there to do. We are not worried about a “global financial meltdown”, we are worried about being taxed to death and putting groceries on the table. We could care less about what happens to Wall Street. You also need to understand, we can and will – take back our country from the criminals in charge now.
Here is a link to find your Congress Persons and email them your anger on these socialist bailouts that will do nothing to help the massive financial imbalances we face. They will only line the pockets of the architects of this mess and make our Tax burden unbearable.
STOP THE INSANITY NOW!!!

THE VILLAGES — Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin told wildly cheering, flag-waving, chanting supporters that John McCain is “the only great man in this race” and promised Sunday he will fix the nation’s economy if voters give the GOP four more years in the White House.
“He won’t say this, so I’ll say it for him,” the Alaska governor said in an almost confidential tone at the close of her first Florida stump speech. “There is only one man in this election who has ever really fought for you. John McCain wore the uniform of his country for 22 years — talk about tough.”
The Villages, a vast, upscale planned community north of Orlando, has about 70,000 mostly adult residents — many of them military retirees — who vote reliably Republican in statewide races. Tens of thousands inched along roads into the picturesque town square of the complex, where they stood in sweltering heat for about four hours as local GOP officials and a country band revved up the crowd.
“Sa-Rah! Sa-Rah!” they chanted at every mention of her name, applauding loudly and waiving tiny American flags that were distributed — along with free water bottles — by local volunteers. The fire chief estimated the crowd at 60,000.

trickle down does not work mccain so you shovel up. Thanks but no thanks to maccain/pallin

John McCain is an avid reader and is known for rereading many works of his favorite authors. The favorite author of John McCain is Herman Wouk who has written The Winds of War, War and Remembrance, and the Caine Mutiny. Wouk served as an executive Naval officer aboard a minesweeper during War War II and used that experience in forming the character of Captain Queeg in the Caine Mutiny. Victor Henry the main character in Winds of War and War and Remembrance was a naval officer who became a confidant both to FDR and Harry Truman. FDR and Harry Truman went outside the normal channels of military command and relied on Victor Henry for straight talk advice on how to approach Russia and Germany and Japan prior and during World War II. John McCain sees himself as the Victor Henry character who was a realist in foreign policy and understood the nuances of war and foreign policy better than anyone. John McCain is a realist and more knowledgeable about foreign policy than either Joe Biden or Barack Obama due to his experiences and also just growing up as the son and grandson of Navy admirals. It is totally inaccurate to argue that John McCain is somehow dogmatic in his approach and understanding of foreign affairs. Herman Wouk wove history into his novels. There is saying that those who do not know history are doomed to repeat history. John McCain knows history and has lived it and will use that knowledge to guide the United States through the tough challenges that we face in the war on terror and dealing with a resurgent Russia.

“With all do respect moderator, I can’t fully answer that question right now. But in seriousness my friend, when I was a POW, I didnt have the option to answer or not answer a question. That was the difference between life and death. I had to answer the guards. So I think I’ve earned the right, to take a pass on this particular question”- McCain in about 4 days
Obama/Biden

I would like to know why the media isn’t highlighting the fact that Sen. Obama ridiculed Sen. McCain because he didn’t use a computer – trying to make it seem that he is too old for new-fangled technology. Sen. McCain is entirely capable of dealing with new technology, except that typing on a pc is very difficult due to his injuries while fighting for his country. If McCain’s camp had created an ad as absolutely stupid and clueless about Obama, the media would have been howling for his head. I really hope that most people do understand that McCain has been called the most techno-savvy person in congress. This is one concrete example of the numerous lies from Sen Obama. I would like to see one solid example of a lie from Sen. McCain. It is easy to say that he lies, but no one will give an example. Let’s hear it.

bhcg89: How such a visionary person as McCain and so educated about foreign policy and war as put us in this mess. How such a good reader and historian and with that is mccain finish 894 of 899 at the naval academy. How just growing up as the son and grandson of Navy admirals as the audacity to flip-flop from one day to the next. Come on Bro, explain

PoliticsAsUsual, yes keep going. Thanks but no thanks to Obama

For those who neglect history, there was another governor who was under 45. One who also loved the outdoors, hunted, and had a bunch of kids. One who was a Republican reformer, and not afraid to attack his own party. One who became VP after just two years as governor. Amazing similarity but Teddy Roosevelt went on to become one of our greatest presidents.
Jerry Sweeney
Sarah Palin could be the best VP and the greatest President this nation ever had.
Women support Sarah Palin.

McCain weakness are debates. His strength might be a town hall sort of meeting, but he will be challenged in this area.

McCain/Palin ’08
No, it won’t be 4 more years of the same- it will be 4 years of reform, economic growth, renewed leadership and REAL CHANGE!

I welcome the debates and hope to be able to watch every minute. I hope that some will be using live questions posed by regular citizens of all sociao-economic backgrounds, not just news personalities whose paychecks are ultimately provided by large corporate interests.

You guys crack me up. It is always someone else. John McCain will get up and say the same thing over and over. There will be a striking difference in the obivious way the guys look. One is white, one is black. One is young and one is old. One has a low confident voice and the other one has a high pitched sort of voice. One will remind everyone of the future and one will everyone of the past.

Notice how the liberal media always tries to spin the economy toward the Democrats? Click here to read a Bloomberg article on “How the Democrats Created the Financial Crisis:” http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aSKSoiNbnQY0

Insanity is defined as doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results. Twice in the last 8 years the American people have allowed the Republicans to steal presidential elections; and, as a consequence, this country is in the worst shape it’s ever been in since the Great Depression (which was also caused by Republican policies). Now, how can anyone with an once of intellect believe that electing another Republican administration will somehow result in something different than what we’ve seen in the last 8 years. One has to be insane to believe that something different will happen by doing the same thing. Think about it people. This is our last chance to get it right. If we don’t, the destruction of the United States started by the Bush administration will be finished by the Palin/McCain administration. Obama/Biden 2008!!!

Everytime McCain flubs he looks for sympathy and pulls out his “war wounds” to end any intelligent debate. Palin’s ignorance is so scary, she is an insult to women’s intelligence.
The Republicans have pretended to be patriotic and to love America, when all along they wanted to plunder the treasury for their own gains.
It is definitely TIME FOR CHANGE – and steer this wounderful country back on couse again

I hope McCain brings up Ayers and the great USA hater the reverend w. Obama listened to him for 20 years so I guess he adopts the rev’s theories.

Idiot Quote of the Century
‘My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you’ll join with me as we try to change it’.

“Obama is a very smart man. His heritage shows diversity and struggle, just like what America represents. He inspires people, he believes in debate and dissenting views and in navigating amongst the best and the brightest. He understands complex issues and has a genuine sense of self-sacrifice.”
This poster, after mocking Palin’s assumed lack of experience then goes on to laud Obama’s as noted above! Isn’t it quite telling, s/he can’t actually list any real experience here? Where’s teh beef? And s/he makes fun of Palin who is just the VP pick?! That’s laughable.

I couldn’t let this one go: someone up thread said that McCain can’t use a computer because of his war injuries. Baloney. That’s nonsense being put out by Fox News. Truth is, McCain points to people in the crowd, he signs autographs, he punches out numbers on a cell phone. He gives the silly “thumbs up.” His war injuries were to his shoulders, not his fingers.
Look, there are a lot of people in their 50′s and older who never got into using computers. John McCain is one of them. That’s all there is to it.

“Almsot every one love Sarah Palin.” Yeah, right. She’s got the highest negative poll numbers of anyone in the race.
Most people don’t like her because they realize her simplistic world view combined with a “don’t blink” confidence is way too similar to another problem child: George W. Bush.
McCain follows Bush in his policies; Palin follows Bush in her character. A very dangerous mix, indeed.

The only people who love Sara Palin are moose hunters and the far right wing of the Republican party. She will be so toast in the Debates. She has been running for a full month and only 2 interviews. Just that story paints the whole picture. She is better at moose hunting than interviews.

There is reason why democrats score point in the economy, because the economy does better with democrats historicaly ESPECIALLY in times of financial crises. We need another JFK< FDRand that is Obama. Even their educations are nearly identical. And their backgrounds, degrees in law, followed by being a senator for JFK. Being young, being able to think outside the box,and simply BEING Outside the box. I am hopeful if Obama gets in. When i THink of Obama I think of us having the same green revolution technology boom as Germany and denmark are enjoying. When I think of McCain I think I need toget a chicken coop in teh backyad and stock up on rice.

Debate on economy. Two views. Obama: “regulate Wall Street”. McCain: “Let’s just fire everybody; and by the way, remember all that stuff about deregulation I pushed years ago – well, nevermind.” How about that AIG bailout? Obama:”Pathetic, but necessary.” McCain:”I was against before I was for it before I was against it…again”.

I dont’ love Sarah Palin. As an animal lover and proud supporter of the environment, she scares me to death. Does everyone just vote party regardless of their candidates stand on issues? Do you know what she stands for? Here’s one issue she supported..and you tell me if this is the type of person you want to be that close to leader of the country. Have you ever heard of aerial hunting? It’s a brutal practice. Wolves are shot from low-flying aircraft or chased to exhaustion, then killed at point-blank range.
Governor Sarah Palin, the Republican nominee for Vice President, promotes this barbaric practice, exploiting a loophole in the Federal Airborne Hunting Act to allow private wolf killers to shoot down wolves using aircraft. To encourage the killing, she even proposed a $150 bounty for the left foreleg of each dead wolf!
We have to get the word out about this! Please watch this powerful new television ad by Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund, and then share it with every wildlife lover you know:
http://actionfund.defenders.org/palintvwolf

Hello Barefootboy. The our Great Nation can not afford the economic views of the Republican party any longer. It is a simple fact. The current President came into office with a surplus and is leaving in 8 years witht he greatest debt. Another 4 years of the last 8 years and I will have to learn Chinese because they will own this Country.

kent—very true kent….we must vote democrat from top of ticket to teh bottom or face the destruction the republicans will continue to bring down on us.

You and kent will probably be on the losing end on this one. Why is it that Palin has twice as many people at her rallys that Obama? I just don’t think the American people are a dense as you two. Will know soon.

I’m a registered Republican and I see how far the GOP has gone to the dogs, ever since BUSH and McSAME. I will vote for OBAMA because he is not a BUSH-CLONE. McCAIN “I think you will find that I agree with the president most of the time, not all of the time, but on every important issue, about 90% of the time I stood by the President”. And of course also said that the economy is “fundamentally strong” of course he has had no option but to do a flip-flop.
Speaking of flip-flops, he said “I do not support a bailout” then the very next day, after BUSH announced the largest bailout in US history he said “the bailout was necassary”. The truth is he can’t possibly make that judgement either way because as he said “I really don’t have a very good understand economics”.

The only thing that I will be disspointed with that come November when Sara Palin heads back to Alaska is that I will not know the lastest recipe for moose stew. I was really looking forward to that.

I am telling you everyone at that rally for Palin was to learn the lastest tip on moose hunting. The season is about to open soon.

…would like to know why the media isn’t highlighting the fact that Sen. Obama ridiculed Sen. McCain because he didn’t use a computer…Sen. McCain is entirely capable of dealing with new technology, except that typing on a pc is very difficult due to his injuries while fighting for his country…
Posted by: just_the_facts_maam | Sep 22, 2008 11:18:51 AM
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Get real. McCAIN has admitted that he “does not know how to google”. Heck, my mother who is about McCAAIN’s age (and retired for 10 years) doesn’t use a computer. Even McCAIN has admitted this and he admits to very little. If it were untrue then the McCAIN camp would respond and the media would cover it.
This has nothing to do with war injuries, it is completely generational and this add is nothing compared to adds run by the McCAIN/PALIN LIE MACHINE.

No, it won’t be 4 more years of the same- it will be 4 years of reform, economic growth, renewed leadership and REAL CHANGE!
Posted by: PA4McCain-Palin 08 | Sep 22, 2008 12:52:53 PM
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I have a “Bridge to Nowhere” I would like to sell you or if you don’t like bridges I could sell you the “Road to Nowhere” that Alaska has built with taxpayers money (it cost millions and leads to the “Bridge to nowhere or at least to where the bridge was suppose to be).

DEAR ABBY:
I have always wanted to have my family history traced,
but I can’t afford to spend a lot of money to do it. Any
suggestions?
Sam in California.
DEAR SAM: Register as a republican, and run for public office.

indevoter you need to find out all about the things that was in that bill before you comment on it. He was for some of it, but some things the veterans administration was against. I’m active in the American Legion and Knew what was going on. You libs need to research these things instead of shooting your mouth off not knowing what the bill said.

from vetsforobama – NOT MY OPINION, theirs – and what part of “time and time again” did you not get.
A cursory dig through John McCain’s voting record begs the question: how can the same man who served so honorably as a soldier serve soldiers so dishonorably? How can we point to his experience in North Vietnam as the mold which forged his character, when the character that it forged voted against the interests of his fellow veterans time and time again?

A college student in Denver is creating a stir after notifying the media that her English professor gave her classmates an anti-Sarah Palin writing assignment.
Janna Barber is a student at Metro State College in Denver, Colorado, where she attends an English class taught by Andrew Hallam — who she describes as a “self-styled liberal Bush basher.” The controversy began when Hallam gave an assignment that directed his students to write an essay contradicting what he called the “fairy tale image” of Alaska Governor Sarah Palin. Furthermore, according to Barber, Hallam asked Republican students to identify themselves, and then he sat back and laughed while other students ridiculed them and shouted four-letter obscenities.
This upset Barber, who filed a complaint with the school and brought the matter to the attention of the local CBS affiliate. Since then she has appeared on Fox News and the O’Reilly Factor.
Matt Barber is Janna’s older brother and the director of cultural affairs at Liberty Counsel. He says the school has been “obstinate” about the incident thus far.
“They are really setting out my sister Janna and trying to portraying her as kind of a lone agitator in this situation,” says the Liberty Counsel spokesman. “And [they] are not expressing any remorse and are giving no indication that they intend to exercise any disciplinary action against Professor Hallam, which is definitely due.”
But Matt says since the story broke, Hallam has announced the assignment will include other political figures such as Barack Obama and John McCain. Regardless, Matt contends the damage is already done. He also believes this problem is not isolated.
“So I would encourage — and I know Janna is encouraging — other Republican and conservative students on campuses around the country to stand up and expose their professors who are trying to brainwash students on college campuses,” says Matt.
The local CBS affiliate quotes a school spokesperson who acknowledged that while it is the responsibility of the school to provide opportunity for critical thinking and civic engagement, Hallem “should have broadened [the assignment] and included all the political figures.”

Biden ‘honored’ to speak at pro-homosexual gala Pro-family activist Peter LaBarbera says Joe Biden’s upcoming appearance at the national dinner for the largest homosexual civil rights group shows what is truly at stake in the presidential election.
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Wonder if Larry Sinclair will be there. If so Obama better go also, Biden may beat his time.
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barefootboy, Are you jealous? Maybe your feet aren’t the only thing that is bare. Eith a post like that, you’re either jealous or a homophobe.
And just like McCAIN/PALIN you’re practicing the politics of destraction rather than face the issues.
On the issues McCAIN/PALEN couldn’t beat spongebob.

John McCAIN said he would fire the head of the FCC (who is on record as saying he’s quitting at the end of Bush”s term), Even Republican”s believe this was not a very Presidential move. John McCAIN said the fundamentals of the economy are strong, not just the other day, he also said it a month ago. President BUSH has been telling us not to worry and then announces the largest bailout in American history. Then McCAIN had to back peddle and say that the American worker is fundamentally strong. That sentence doesn’t even make sense. McCAIN said that he did not favor the bailout of AIG, then the next day it was announced that AIG would be bailed out and he said it was necessary (a complete flip-flop) in one day.
Believe McCAIN when he says “I don’t really know much about economics”, which are his words before he has tried to reinvent himself as a financial guru.

Here is how McCAIN handled his first major decision, the choice of the VP. First he chose Senator Leibermann to be his running mate, but Limbaugh and other conservatives lambasted him. Then he chose Tom Ridge, but because of his views on abortion, this trial balloon also popped. So, he picks a 21 month Governor of the third least populous state, after meeting her just one time.
This is what PALIN had to say “As for that VP talk all the time, I”ll tell you, I still can”t answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the VP does every day?” Sarah Palin, interview with CNBC”s “Kudlow & Co”, July 2008
McCAIN can answer what the VP job is. According to McCAIN “the job of the Vice President is to inquire on the health of the President and attend the funerals of third world dictators”.

indevoter
These aren’t arguments, they are FACTS. Something BHO supporters seem to have no grasp of. In science, words mean little, unless they can be backed up by FACTS.
Under BHO, it would be much easier to get on welfare, form community programs for everything imaginable that receive federal money, etc… For people that work hard, pay their bills on time, pay more than their fair share already to support, even further, able-bodied, nonproductive citizens that have no desire to work, or contribute to society, is socialism. And really unAmerican. And oh yeah, he is an African-American.

Indevoter just proved my point better than I ever could have could.
This Obama drone made 7 references to the Bush administration, and only 3 to McCain. With the “McShame” thrown in their for good measure.
Democrats must have been at the back of the line when God was handing out brains.

I’m registered democrat but will soon be registering as an independent before people accuse me of being gay.
Posted by: barefootboy | Sep 22, 2008 2:08:24 PM
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Gay or straight, I doubt you could get any either way.

palin’s job as a vp would be to continue to sit there an smile. not saying a word or answering one question. Nice pick Republicans, You chose a puppet.

Gay or straight, I doubt you could get any either way.
Posted by: indevoter
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That’s probably the first truth you have told today. Yes I’m 78 and don’t have the desires I used to, but I’m living with my wife of 54 years and she still weight 118 lb and has held her shape and won a coiuple of beauty contest when she is in her teens. I tell people in a joking way that i have to produce on Christmas eve and already dread it.
Now go back to your liberal hole. I will be gone for a couple of hours.

Kathy, you’re watching the wrong news media. Switch on over to FOX news. That is where you want to be. They have 24 hour coverage with McCain/Palin. Each time they open mouth and insert foot, FOX drags them back in, cleans them up, hands them a script and turns on the cameras. They must be getting frustrated by now.

Everybody lets vote for Change. Real Change We Can Believe In. The only ones that can make that happen are McCain/Palin. Seriously, Obama is not an option. He will do very serious harm to this country. The people of this country are finally starting to wake up to the truth and see Obama for what he is. Stop, look and listen! Learn the truth before it is too late. He is scary!

Hahaha, inefectual Democratic government?
First off, the regulatory system and agencies that would have been in charge of preventing this meltdown fall within the Executive Branch. I hate to burst your little bubble, but two years of a Democratic Congress that was not allowed to take any action because of record Republican filibustering had no impact on this disaster. Bush/McCain policies of cowering in the corner with tail firmly placed between legs while Wall Street ‘gets drunk’ (Bush’s words, not mine) allowed these firms to run wild without consequence. They are now feeling the pain of that irresponsiblity.
I, like most Americans, yearn for a return to the Clinton Democratic Economic years. When Washington put the interests of those in the living room over those in the Board Room, and we all benefited.
After the market collapse, Obama immediatly detailed a plan to reign in corporate stupidity, preserve the free market, and help individuals stay in their homes.
McDrool on the other hand-
Said the economy was strong
then said it wasn’t
then said it was but he meant workers
then said he would fire the SEC chair
then realized he can’t as President
then said he would fire the FEC chair
then took a nap
then said he wouldn’t talk to a key ally
then said he would
then said he wouldn’t
then said we need a 9/11 commission
then said maybe we don’t
then said we do.
Then Palin said ‘lipstick’ a thousand times.
Former Soldier, former Republcan, former Hillary supporter, proud woman, proud American for Obama.

Just to correct many of your commenters, McCain rarely if ever mentions his POW experience on the stump. That’s why it was so dramatic in his acceptance speech.
The pathetic envy of his life experiences motivates his foes to accuse him of this obsession with his imprisonment. They know they would have died of fright their first night in captivity, and would have rushed to be let go if offered early release as McCain was. It took great character to turn his captors down, and this enemies know, deep down, that their characters are weak.
It is a classic example of projection. McCain exemplifies the masculinity and bravery that most of his foes lack, so they have to trash it in order to continue having any self-regard.
I sympathize, but I wish you guys would grow up and stop publicizing your neuroses and panic.

McCain will look angry and old in the debates. He’ll look like Bush, just older whos been in WASHINGTON MUCH MUCH Longer. I’m glad people underestimate Obama. McCain’s in trouble. Look at these state polls! OBAMA now up 6 in VA? WOW.

jmo, but the game-changer has always been waiting in the undecided percentage. once the race card was played on Bill Clinton, voters began worrying that if Bill Clinton could be called a racist, it could happen to anyone. from that moment on, undecideds began breaking sharply toward Hillary in the voting booth. again, this is not because these undecideds are racists, but because they were concerned about being perceived as racists. Obama usually converted his poll numbers into votes (he didn’t overpoll), but Hillary always underpolled, then picked up significant support from the undecideds.
the media shouldn’t have portrayed Bill Clinton as a racist and the Obama campaign shouldn’t have let it drag on. short term gains, but long term worries, because now they can’t get an accurate take on where voters really stand.
so, undecideds=potential Trojan Horse. if the undecided percentage is still significant the day before the election, it’s going to be President McCain.

Everyone’s bashing Palin. She has as much or more experience than Obama. It’s really interesting to see all this hate spewing from the Obama supporters. I think this country will end up in an even bigger mess if we have the same party running congress and the white house. There will be no checks and balances.

The topic of the debate this week is definitely supposed to be foreign policy and run by Lehrer, I think.
It will be interesting to see how many times the topic gets shifted to the economy.
I’m just waiting for my absentee ballot, so I can cast my vote and finally put an end to the cacophony that this campaign has become.

Neither candidate gets it. Friday night in October? Every swing voter is going to be watching high school football.

Hey, I’m with Wong of Dynamite and the others who actually read or listen to news and what the candidates say and do. And I’m not “bashing” Governor Palin. I just don’t want a Vice President who makes up stuff, believes she should be able to have civil servant-protected public employees fired, and tells inconsistent stories from one moment to the next. There is no comparison, Diana, between Obama who actually has a good record for being a clean politician in Illinois, and Governor Pailin, who sticks to incorrect stories like glue, and is willing to bury an investigation into her practices that was initiated at her invitation by Republicans. This is not “bashing,” it’s vetting a prospective vice president. Which is something, by the way, that McCain failed to do.
So, yes, my support goes all the way to Obama.
Caldwell Young

I thought about voting for Sen. McCain, but when he brought on Gov. Palin, I realized how little she knows about things outside of Alaskan politics.
It’s not her fault, but she’s not ready. And at Sen. McCain’s age and health, I think a President Palin is not just risky, but dangerous.

Sorry it’s Gallup that has Obama with a slight lead in RV’s but a large lead for McCain in LV’s

To tm who posted much earlier:
You state that Obama is open to new ideas, yet he has never once demonstrated a willingness or ability to walk across the aisle to work with republicans. All you need to do is look at his voting record.
As for Obama being a visionary or progressive, give me a break. This guy, along with all of the other so-called progressives, peddles in outdated collectivism. His policies are based upon New Deal concepts from the 1930′s.
As for Palin not being qualified or ready, no one on this board or anywhere else has been able to offer up anything to suggest Obama is ready. Just look how he botched the whole Russia/Georgia thing. He changed his mind multiple times over 3 days. You can’t do that in a crises situation. That’s not being open-minded, it’s being unprepared and just not too bright.

So here goes again to my Republican friends:
help me understand why I (we) should go Republican again this year given the Republican leadership 12 out of 14 years of Congress and 8 of the last 12 as President and we got:
1. Mission Accomplished – ooops, no its not
2. not one WMD, anywhere.
3. Abu Gharib and other torture incidents that now leave our people open to torture
4. a badly mismanaged war in Iraq and thousands dead and injured – I know, cause my brother did two tours and got injured – his conclusion – “this mission is FUBAR and I am not going back” as of Aug 2007 he retired after 25 years in the Marines.
5. Katrina – a huge national embarassment and preventable tragedy
6. CIA agents having their cover blown from the White House, no less
7. a massive budgetary surplus, squandered in less than 4 years
8. the biggest expansion of government since FDR
9. our standing in the world is at nil – trsut me I am an internatinal businessman, and it is very hard to do business these days..no one trusts us anymore
10. the biggest financial meltdown since the great depression – and soon to be $11.5trillion in debt mostly to the Chinese and Saudis (so much for Natl Security)
I’ll give you, the Bush admin took it to Al Qaeda big time…and Pres Bush has very quietly done some great things for Africa (AIDS meds, etc.)
Now here is the challenge…I want to see people man up/woman up like I am and admitting my vote last time was potentially not too smart, and I dont want to hear Republican talking points, or happy talk that the “fundamentals of the economy are good” or scardey talk that if the Dems get in Al Qaeds will nuke us…or Obama, this and Obama that
just give me 10 things that the Republicans are going to change if we give the them Congress and the White House – again…what is going to be different than the last 8-10 years….I look forward to intelligent discourse, and no abuse…

I will admit that the vote I made 4 years ago for Bush was a massive mistake and one that I will not make again. By the way McCain has botched everything and will destory this country and again I am a Republican.
Obama/Biden 08/12

Where do they get this bs about Palins 60,000 people in Florida from. My mom was there she said she thought 8-10,000 people at most and from the pics I’ve seen that seems about right. So where did this 60,000 come from. Schmidt? Another comment from my ma. People sat and stood there for hours in the blazing sun, Palin showed up, spoke for 25 minutes, didn’t take any questions and then was whisked away. The reaction of my ma and many others, very underwhelmed. And I love the comments where McCain is going to destroy Obama in these debates. Yep 894th out of a class of 899 versus the first black president of the Harvard Law Review. I’m sure Obama is paralysed with fear…….at the prospect of another one of those corpse like smiles from McCain.

To Indithinker:
Your post is one long series of talking points. It’s all straight from the playbook. By the way, as an international businessman, you ought to be able to spell international properly.
It would take too long to deal with all of your posts, so I’ll just take a few.
First, in case you haven’t read the papers, it was Richard Armitage who blew the cover of Valerie Plame, who was already well known anyway.
Second, the idea that what happened at Abu Gharib opens our people up to more torture is laughable on it’s face. Torture has been commonplace in war for as long as there’s been war. Do you honestly believe that if went to war with say Iran, Iranian policy would be to increase torture due to Abu Gharib? I don’t think people with their mindset ever need a greater incentive to act like animals.
As for the squandered surplus, nothing angers me more than when Congress has a surplus to spend. It’s the American people’s money, not theirs. Here’s a novel idea; why not cut out all of the useless, unconstitutional items in the budget and give the money back to the people who produced it in the first place, Americans.

IN44, when you feel the need to tell us your smart, that’s when we get suspicious. Your intellect should be obvious, and I guess you realize it isn’t.
Your not, nor have ever been a republican. Saying you were is just your not so clever way of trying to increase the impact of your statements. No republican talks the way you do. Sorry, but your just not that smart.

The reality of this election is this. If Obama is not ahead by 10 pts. coming to election night he will lose. Not because he is not the best candidate, the smartest candidate, or because of his policies, or position on issues. Not because the Rep. Admin is the worst in history, the economy is reaching depression era crisis,gov’t bailing out the rich has become policy on the backs of the middle class, debt at record highs, war continuing at nauseum, etc. It is because he is black and America is still not ready for a black leader in 2008.

Um, Tony. It’s “you’re” not “your” when one is trying to say “you are,” as in “…you’re just not that smart.” It would certainly be embarrassing to misuse such a word in a post questioning or completely denying the intelligence of another poster.
Luckily, nobody on this forum has…. oops!!!!

I too love the comments that McCain is going to destroy Obama in the debates. They’re made by people who either refuse to listen to what Obama says and refuse to recognize just how on top of all the major issues he is, or have become so zombified by listening to McCain and Palin robotically repeat their simple-minded talking points that they simply can’t recognize genuine intelligence when they see it.
Either way, idiots like that are helping keep expectations for Obama’s performance low, so when he mops the floor with McCain the overall effect on the voting public will be all the more overwhelming. Thanks for your help!
And Matt, if you looking for “integrity,” then how can take McCain seriously? The last few weeks have caught him in lie after lie after lie, and shown him flip-flopping on every position like a fish out of water. If that’s what you consider “integrity,” I’d hate to see what counts as dishonesty and lack of principle in your world.
And Chris, I think you’re dead wrong. Think back to the Dem primaries — Obama consistently underpolled by at least 5-6 points. When Clinton was supposed to blow him out in TX & IN, he came within a couple points of beating her. Her expected 18-20 point win in PA ended up being 9 points. And what was supposed to be a tight race in NC ended up with Clinton losing by 14. The old polling methods haven’t caught up to the new realities of this year’s electorate. So long as it’s still a horserace in the polls going into the election Obama’s going to win. He’ll have all the Kerry states, Iowa’s already in the bag, and his leads in CO and NM keep growing. All he needs is ONE more state and he wins.

You act as if there is no Bradley Effect at all to be considered in this election. A lead of a few percentage points in nationwide popular votes gives a Democratic candidate no advantage at all. And a black Democratic candidate should be considered significantly behind if his national popular vote edge is only a point or two. Less then 6 points and he loses the election in the electoral college.

It makes no sense spending trillions of dollars trying to shore up this Rube Goldberg matrix of interdependent financial black holes. Rather, we should let capitalism do the clean up for us. Sure, the investors involved will suffer significant losses and the investment banks will fail. So what. Assets are still assets, and cash is still cash. The end result standing aside and letting the ill-advised experiment of separating investment and risk fail, is that it will force commercial and private borrowers and lenders to base their transactions on reality going forward. Rather than killing the credit markets, getting back to basics is absolutely essential to their future vitality.

Yes, Obama is a cunning linguist. He can say one minute that he will get our troops out of Iraq and the next minute he can say if Al Queada was in Irag he’ll put troops in and the press doesn’t even challenge him. Meantime Cindy McCain says she has always loved America and the press jumps all over her.
Obama puts a lot of thought into his words as he reads from the teleprompter.

Barry will be toast. He simply regurgitates all the Soros talking points. No guts, no morals. A political hack – Chicago style.
McCain will win in 6 weeks.

Republicans need to face the facts: We’ve got you. Soon, we’ll get your guns too! There are more black people than racists in America. Sarah Palin plays terribly in urban areas. BO is a leftist, and many of us do agree with Rev. Wright. We do believe in Marxism. We believe in Late term abortion. And we believe rich people should have to pay for it. Not all of us, but many of us. We’d love it if BO trounced on your gun rights. We’ll use the fairness doctrine to shut Michael Savage up. We want socialized medecine. And we’ve got you now. Here’s the best part: you get a front row seat! She plays great in Texas. Iowa, not so much. Colorado, nope try again. New Mexico, Como se dice whitey? Hate to let you in on the secret, but it’s all we need. Sorry bout your luck!

ruby I wouldn’t get too overconfident. If a sub-committee is convened to find the culprits, guess who will be found at fault. If you want the truth:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Reinvestment_Act

Ruby–Thought I’d point out that “Typical White Person” came from Obama. That’s what he called his grandmother in his “great” race speech.

dem in chicago–I’m shocked! You’re from Chicago and you think Obama is going to win! Remember McGovern? That’s what will happen to Obama.

Dude, you lied in your description of your self. Karl was chief strategist in ’04.
Why don’t disclose your man-crush on Obama?

Have you wondered why the Congress was so quick to investigate ENRON, but have you heard a word about them investigating the current CEOs and what happened?

Sean A I wonder what the MSM has in store to help Obama overcome his speech handicap?

You can jump and twist and shout all you want, but McCain made the two key plays in this election.
1) Of all the possible choices, he picked Palin. Palin is George Bush in lipstick. She is even more crazily ideological than Bush. I want change.
2) Before picking Palin, McCain indicated his first choice was Lieberman. If elected, social conservatives now know Maverick McCain would likely nominate pro-choice Lieberman to an easy confirmation to the Supreme Court. McCain is sufficiently vindictive to get back at the “agents of intolerance”.
A relevant piece related to the above is that the Palin pick was done to “solidify McCain’s base”. But the “base” referred to are the religious right. What happened to the fiscal conservatives that used to be the “base” of the Republican Party??? If you have been a fiscal conservative Republican for many years, you know that one year ago John McCain was not your candidate. I am not a Republican but I do respect the role that fiscally conservative Republicans have played in balancing our national political agenda. They were horribly excluded this election and should let people know about it. John McCain is more dangerous to our economy than Obama in the same way that George Bush has been more dangerous to our economy than Bill Clinton was. You can jump and twist and shout all you want, but you know it’s true.

It truly amazes me how many people still believe Barack Obama has a chance in this election. Sometimes the writing can be emblazoned on the wall with spotlights and a siren blaring and the dolts of the world still wouldn’t see it.
Here’s a clue–John McCain could trip climbing the stairs at the debate, hiccup all the way through, fall asleep for ten minutes in the middle and let the word “uppity” slip in his closing statement AND HE’LL STILL BE ELECTED PRESIDENT IN NOVEMBER.
Barack Obama cannot win, and has never had a chance. Are you people really this naive?
Here’s another hint–this year it is truly a “race” to the White House…but not in the sense of a contest. LOOK BEYOND THE PRESS. Do some homework. You’ll figure it out.
LAST HINT–Obama will lose virtually every Republican vote. He’ll lose a significant majority of the senior vote. He’ll lose a majority of the women’s vote. This in and of itself is probably enough to cost him the election…but he’s going to lose a significant portion of the DEMOCRAT vote, and all the pretty words in the world can’t make that go away. Here are some search terms to look for…”ABC News poll race factor”, “AP-Yahoo race poll”, “the Bradley effect”. There are others. They are clear. Obama cannot win!

John McCain is an avid reader and is known for rereading many works of his favorite authors. The favorite author of John McCain is Herman Wouk who has written The Winds of War, War and Remembrance, and the Caine Mutiny. Wouk served as an executive Naval officer aboard a minesweeper during War War II and used that experience in forming the character of Captain Queeg in the Caine Mutiny. Victor Henry the main character in Winds of War and War and Remembrance was a naval officer who became a confidant both to FDR and Harry Truman. FDR and Harry Truman went outside the normal channels of military command and relied on Victor Henry for straight talk advice on how to approach Russia and Germany and Japan prior and during World War II. John McCain sees himself as the Victor Henry character who was a realist in foreign policy and understood the nuances of war and foreign policy better than anyone. John McCain is a realist and more knowledgeable about foreign policy than either Joe Biden or Barack Obama due to his experiences and also just growing up as the son and grandson of Navy admirals. Barack Obama and Joe Biden have no military background between them and do not even have the background to know who to connect with to get straight back channel information. Barack Obama and Joe Biden lack the knowledge to even ask the right questions even if they could line up a current day Pug Henry commander to give them the straight scoop. It is totally inaccurate to argue that John McCain is somehow dogmatic in his approach and understanding of foreign affairs. Herman Wouk wove history into his novels. There is saying that those who do not know history are doomed to repeat history. John McCain knows history and has lived it and will use that knowledge to guide the United States through the tough challenges that we face in the war on terror, radical Islam and dealing with a resurgent Russia.

In 2003, the Bush Administration recommended what the NY Times called “the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago.” [5] This change was to move governmental supervision of two of the primary agents guaranteeing subprime loans, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac under a new agency created within the Department of the Treasury. However, it did not alter the implicit guarantee that Washington will bail the companies out if they run into financial difficulty; that perception enabled them to issue debt at significantly lower rates than their competitors. The changes were generally opposed along Party lines and eventually failed to happen. Representative Barney Frank(D-MA) claimed of the thrifts “These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis, the more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.” Representative Mel Watt (D-NC) added “I don’t see much other than a shell game going on here, moving something from one agency to another and in the process weakening the bargaining power of poorer families and their ability to get affordable housing.”
Some Repubs crossed the aisle-so no overhaul.

Eww! Everytime I think of a far right-wing bloggers screaming about the “liberal” media, I always imagine a guy with glasses and very unattractive. Right-wing women for some reason look way better and yet they can be more sometimes more “nutty”. Anyway you people suck, because it should totally be about the issues and not old war hero vs. black man. And to the last person who said that Obama doesn’t have a chance. You are such a loser. Wake up and smell the Starbucks. You hink Obama is going to lose because he is black. You didn’t come out and say it but I can take a hint and I hope you are wrong in every kind of way. Because you sound like someone from the 50s and not relevant to the real issues. And women are smart enough to decide on the issues. We pick with emotion when it comes to men, hairstyles, shades of foundation, but when it comes to bringing change to the crap our country has been through, we know more than you think. Stay cool people!

Anyone who votes for McCain puts America in great danger. Sarah Palin is entirely unprepared and she is his CHOICE for President beside himself.
On merits alone Bush’s mismanagement cannot be condoned, and those who voted for him twice should apologize and just not vote in 2008.
Now, with Sarah Palin a heartbeat away, you are irresponsible to vote for McCain even if you have supported the party for every year of your life. This isn’t Obama’s fault or my fault or your fault, it is John McCain’s fault. There are literally hundreds and hundreds of more qualified people in the upper tiers of government in our country, including many women. John McCain put this country in harms way by intentionally disrupting an important debate about the future of our country by playing to our most naive voters’ most primative fears.
Fortunately, if Obama wins then Sarah Palin will be forgotten in history books, an interesting tid-bit like the Lincoln-Douglas Debates.
If McCain wins, however, it will be his “Nero” moment, when McCain single-handedly chose winning an election and being popular over having a competent and intelligent person to lead the ship.

Tiff All about issues. The housing problems of today are caused by the laws the democrats passed. But MSM chooses to ignore them. DEMS complain about CEOs, but where’s the investigation (like for Enron)? There won’t be any, because all of the Dems are just too busy covering for each other.

Uh, barefootboy, what rock do you live under?

During these serious times, people are acting immature! Why? Who knows! I wish that people can work together and figure it out quickly. If our dollar falls into negative value, we will definitely go into deep market depression. It is unfortunate that McCain get the bad wrap, because the crisis accord under his party administration. George Bush is in the charge, but it takes a long time for such a crisis to break out like this. I do believe both parties are to blame here. Instead of playing the blame game, I wish they focus on solving it. Even though, Barrack started by pouncing on a misstep in choice of word from McCain, McCain should not be punished like this. Plus, Barrack got him flustered and McCain couldn’t recover from Obama’s laundry of lies. So, I am not here to play politics! I want the best person in the office. It is McCain.

McCain is old! So, he does not have a bad motive! He really want to serve. Country first!! Don’t you think!

Palin would make a great president…the president of your local pta.

God Bless Sarah Palin!

John McCain’s campaign for presidency is slowly dying.

Master debator McCain will win the debates if he learns where Spain is. I expected more from seasoned politician. If Sarah Palin was running for President, I’d feel safer with her around, she didn’t have passport ’til the last year and saw Russia from the Alaskan island, the foreign policy expereince not too many politicians like Biden can match.

indevoter,
The bailout is a joke! A bad joke on the American people. If Warren Buffet can invest $5B in Goldman Sachs new “bank”, then Goldman Sachs and the rest of the Wall Street gang can come up with more friends to bail them out. Why should American taxpayers have to do it?!
Goldman Sachs stole your investments. Bush regime = Paulson and Cox. Instead of going after these crooks, they sick the FBI on the companies that helped Americans become homeowners.
I think it is time for our state congressional reps to *get the connection between outsourcing/insourcing our jobs and the inability to purchase homes. Paulson is trying to scare us into giving his buddies our hard earned money, but we need to attach a few things to prevent another beg request in the future.
Please contact your state reps and let them know that Wall Street gets no $700B deal unless every H1B visa recipient gets sent home so that Americans can work. There is no worker shortage and the temporary workers do not buy homes or invest in our economy.
We do not have to sit idly bye.
YES WE CAN!
Obama/Biden 08!

Berg Filed an Answer Sept. 29th, 2008
(Lafayette Hill, Pennsylvania – 09/29/08) – Philip J. Berg, Esquire, the Attorney who filed suit against Barack H. Obama challenging Senator Obama’s lack of “qualifications” to serve as President of the United States, announced today that he filed his Opposition and Brief to Obama and Democratic National Committee [DNC] Joint Motion to Dismiss in the case of Berg v. Obama, No. 08-cv-04083.
Berg feels confident that he has “Standing” and the Court will allow the case to go forward. Our response was due in 14 days, but the Court requested our answer by Monday, September 29, 2008 and we complied.
In our response we set forth sufficient reasons that I have “Standing” to bring this lawsuit. Furthermore, I set forth additional reasons that indicate Obama does not meet the qualifications for President of the United States and Obama should be removed from the ballot and held accountable.
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Berg again stressed his position regarding the urgency of this case as, “we” the people, are heading to a “Constitutional Crisis” if this case is not resolved forthwith.
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