The Story Behind Biden’s Emergency Helicopter Landing in Afghanistan

Well this should take the spotlight off of the economic meltdown.

Jake, seriously….didn’t you hear that Biden was waving his Beretta at the Taliban?
He keeps spare clips inside each hair plug…
Like a Vietnam Vet said the other day…who the hell is Joe Biden to lecture me about patriotism, when he hasn’t served a day in his life?
STFU Biden. No one believes your fake story about crashing into the Taliban Mountains…there’s only one war hero in this campaign, plugsy.

Joe forgot to read the Obama memos regarding Hillary’s landing under sniper fire incident.
Good ol’ Joe….was it four or five deferments to avoid service in the Viet Nam war?
The biggest braggers are the ones that never really have to do it.

“the senators and their delegation returned to Bagram Air Base in a motor convoy”

Similar to the storey Joe tells about “As a kid I dreamed of being in the Football Hall of Fame?”
Only trouble is the football hall of fame didn’t exist until Joe was 22.
Whoops –

jpt quotes Biden:
“That’s where Bin Laden is.”

Keep talkin Joe, I love it!! This guy is rich!!

Tapper,
How about some commentary for once pointing out the obvious implied lie in Biden’s statements that he was forced down by the enemy, not weather?
Cmon man.

In all seriousness, Crazy Joe repeats this line about being shot down and the story about the tragic death of his wife, when everyone knows what sadly happened.
Is Crazy Joe, well, crazy? Delusional?

a helicopter is forced down in hostile territory in the mountains where al qaeda is hiding out…
and they have to ride out in a convoy in that same storm through the mountains…where al qaeda is hiding out…
and you all are trying to make that out as not scary as **#$,
there was Nothing about enemy fire…but WHO CARES…

“Good ol’ Joe….was it four or five deferments to avoid service in the Viet Nam war?”

Say, did Crazy Joe copy the story from Hillary about having their helos grounded due to fierce enemy fire?
What is it about these crazy dems?

I was there when this happened and it was a joke. We all thought Kerry was going to put himself in for another Medal. The story is factually correct except that the Senators had any say in the matter, none of them new how to fly. I wouldn’t say it was a blizzard though, I just remember low ceilings and poor visibility, most of us had the common sense to check the weather before we tried the pass, but Senators and Generals have a way of presuring a good pilot to do dumb things whehter its intentional or not.

Come on Biden, tell the truth. The pilot was really forced down because you were in the back screaming and puking! Unlike the floor of that chopper it’s time for you to come clean!

Jake
this is a sad story…
you are creating a story that isn’t there…
he didn’t say anything wrong
his helicopter goes down in hostile territory (weather visibility who cares why…he never said why)
as we are seeing our economy get plundered
it would be one thing if he actually said something wrong
but now you are just creating something that isn’t there.

“…come back to Afghanistan…”
Wasn’t that “Come back to Jamaca” when someone else was said the first time?

I’m sorry, but Biden is just an idiot. And what’s worse, he’s a blow-hard, so nobody escapes seeing that he’s an idiot. Couldn’t Obama have found a better running mate? ANYBODY would have been better!

STAND UP CHUCK! Seriously, how many of us who are frequent fliers have had to land because of bad weather? Biden, in telling this ‘story’ was trying to leave the impression he was in danger in a war zone. Too funny. Can’t wait for the VP debates.

Hillary is laughing herself silly at these two bumbling idiots. What a team.

Yes, dl, I called Biden an idiot. And, frankly, I cannot believe Obama was stupid enough to choose him as a running mate. That act, as much as anything, shows that Obama is NOT qualified to be President.

Diane
do you even know …do you put on a television ever…or have you read the news in the past …oh 10 years?
do you know what is going on in the mountains of the Pakistani Afghan border?
oy
no wonder we got Bush and there are a bunch of really ________ people who still think Mccain after his third trillion involvement down the tubes from us…is a viable president.

Good old Joe 4 deferments but don’t get to upset remember Hilary was under sniper fire in bosnia. Poor old Joe got his hair plugs wet running from the chopper to the car ducking all the way. The Democrats the same people who made a big deal out of Bushes non service. Clinton the draft dodger, Hilary the liar and good old Joe pelted by snowflakes.

Well Bill, as we both know, Biden IS a Democrat. What do you expect from him?

BorderLegion: Bill left office with a surplus. McBush created the biggest deficit in history while deregulating the banking and securities industries so another one trillion dollars of your money can be spent to fix what they broke.

Right. And Palin can see Russia from her house.

Odd- he should inquire what mrs palin would do about health care, not in the constitution, yet for years he has spent endless energy on attacking our right to self defense- IN THE CONSTITUTION. The dems are UNFIT for service- even as congresspeople!

I seem to remember the Bush administration being handed an economy on its way into recession. Seems those tax cuts averted the economic woes left by billy boy and his bunch.

Almost as good of a story as Hillary dodging bullets then video shows her getting flowers from a girl….

Why do the same Democrats who diss McCain’s military service, have to try to make up service of their own?

He didnt say the Chooper was shot down he didnt Claim he was a hero like someone else running! Yet no mention of that in any media!
Why has no one in the American media asked for McCain’s war files why has no one asked for copies of the propganda video’s and radio broadcast mccain made for the viet cong ?
Shouldnt Americans be allowed to judge that meterial before they cast a vote for their leader ?
Your media is weak its easy to deal with the trival and stupid then to report the issues and facts!
We American’s can only get real news from Comedy Central you nation is in trouble!
God help you all!

Sorry Terry2f, but the only person who has exposed himself as a total idiot is Joe Biden. Of course, no thinking person is surprised. He’s made a career of doing just that!

Sorry Jeff I hate to burst your idotic bubble but Clinton left office with a budget surplus in place which G W spent like it was yesterdays leftovers. The economy was not in a recession when Clinton left office. But you go on believing your parties tripe and assine talking points they show your ignorance wqhen you post them.

gary: The other guy with a comb over can buy all your Republicans twice over and he thinks G W Bush is an idiot, yes I’m talking about Donald Trump.

O, That Joe! What a clown. Makes me wonder just what are all those years of experience worth? I mean, a shot glass only holds a couple of ounces, no matter how big the bottle of whiskey is.

Oh ronnieraygun…name calling unbecomes you..

Let the institutions go hell and give the taxpayers a $3,500-$4,500 incentive and let us save the economy and ourselves not their bonuses and their jobs.

and ronnieray do you know why Iraq is dealing with the chicoms?? Because the Dems in congress wouldn’t let our own companies in to bid…

FINALLY PROOF

skaterdon thats wrong the Chinese are being invited back in to do the job they were doing before we attacked Sadam’s army.

Too bad they weren’t in a balloon: there would have been enough Biden hot air to carry them over the Hindu Kush.

Before you go blaming Pres. Bush (yes he is OUR President) for the financial melt down, please consider the following. They are facts.
1. In 2003 Pres. Bush tried to have a law passed reorganizing and restricting Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, It was a non-starter in Congress.
2. In 2005 Sen McCain introduced a bill in the Senate to reorganize and restrict the same two entities. It never got out of Committee.
3. The same two entities gave hundreds of thousands of dollars to Congress- people to head off oversight. Sen Dodd was the largest recipient. In the short time Sen. Obama sereved, he was the second largest recipient over the last (I think) 10 years.
The Wall Street Journal has been editorializing about this potential problem for years, but what did they know – it was only conservative smear tactics. We’re paying the price form ignoring this problem. It just didn’t go away and it won’t solve itself.
There is plenty of blame to go around, to both parties. AND what’s worse, Congress is still at it playing politics with a plan that just might work – no guarantees – but at least it is better than watching America’s economy go down the drain for partisan political purposes.
Who cares what forced Joe Biden’s plane down? To use a metaphor, The Titanic is sinking, so lets try and get the passengers in the the lifeboats before we all drown. Let’s stop the partisan bickering. This is too serious a problem to screw around with. I don’t care who is at fault – I want the Congress to try,at least, to solve the problem.If they don’t we are doomed – really and truly and both Republicans and Democrats will be hurt.

Biden has met with many world leaders as a member of the foreign relations committee. In his autobiography he tells a very interesting story of how the crisis in Bosnia was first brought to attention, and he had to meet Slobodan Milosevic.

Sounds real crazy both Biden and Obama talking about invading Pakistan. Guess what happened over the weekend and what the govt. of Pakistan said has no meaning to these two.

Obama will never be elected because the American people do not elect flakes..remember Dukakis..McGovern..Gore & Kerry…so you Dems shoiuld be looking to 2012

Another useless, trivia story – but the Senator asked for it by trying to make himself sound more militarily qualified than he is.
Few people will vote based on the VP, anyway – unless they can’t decide between the other two.

Joe Schmo wadda yaano. Insert foot into mouth. Whadda idiot…
Mccain/Palin 2008

ATTENTION:
Don’t be fooled!
OBAMA/BIDEN = agree with the McCain/Palin foreign policy!
–NATO membership for Georgia and Ukraine =CHECK
–Iraq troop withdrawal when the generals say so =CHECK
–Iran containment and the use of premptive force if needed [i.e. the so called "Bush Doctrine"] =CHECK
OBAMA/BIDEN = Trying to pull one over on gullible Democrats this November – don’t be fooled!
Someone needs to ask OBAMA/BIDEN if they knew Iran was planning an attack on Israel, would they preemptively stop Iran using US forces?

Man oh man you Republicans sure love to play unfair, at every chance. The quote by Biden clearly says nothing about being shot at, dogding missiles, parachuting out, or anything else that implies military assault. He simply said his helicopter was “forced down” inbetween both hostile countries.
At worst, since Biden didn’t say WHAT caused his chopper to land, one’s imagination might suggest that Afghan and Pakistan are dangerous places, and maybe they were under fire. But he didn’t say that… so why is your first reaction to LIE and put MORE words in his mouth? To respond to a quote he didn’t make? This isn’t Hillary saying we were “under fire”. He simply said his chopper was “forced down”, in this case by a snowstorm. You had the opportunity to criticise this quote fairly to a lesser degree based on implication, but most choose to attack it unfairly and dishonestly. It says alot about the lack of your integrity and honesty – anything to win, right?
It’s exactly these poor skills of analysis and interpretation that 1) got us into Iraq based on fraudulent data, and 2) made the rest of the world HATE AMERICA.
I pray you all look up from your death march before it’s too late. If you don’t realize that all McCain knows is war, and with him comes much more war that we can’t afford or sustain, then we’re all screwed.

Jeff if you get to ask Palin a question ask her what she is going to do about the Russian Navy, which has been invited to have naval manuvers off the coast of South America by Hugo Chaves the President of Venezula??? Like she will what not blink??? now theres and answer!!!!!!hahahahahahahaah.

Regardless of what party a politician is affiliated with — when a Senator says his helicopter was “forced down,” 99.9% of people will infer that it was forced down by enemy fire…and when it is later revealed that the helicopter was forced down simply by weather conditions, then the Senator looks disingenuous.

So will this run repeatedly in the media and really hurt Biden like Hillary when she claimed that she landed under fire? Someone has to hold Biden responsible for his wild comment.

Wait…. does getting hit by a snowball qualify for a purple heart?

OK, so let’s run Biden and Palin together on the “pathological liars” ticket. Their names even rhyme…

TS Mommy, since you’re a lib it isn’t surprising that you make excuses for Joe. It’s embarrassingly obvoius that he was trying to impress the naive (you & the left).

Jeez, what a pathetic idiot. And the Dems have the nerve to ridicule Sarah Palin ?

“Forced down”? Is that similar to “sniper fire”? Sounds like an overhyped pilot “there I was story”. Fits the Dems perfectly.

This is just another Biden whopper, he just can’t shut up.

I fly military helicopters. If I ever landed unexpectedly due to weather and claimed I was “forced down” I’d be tarred, feathered, and never again taken seriously.
I’ll never trust Biden again. Didn’t much anyway.

Britsh&Interested:
The part that wasn’t true about Biden’s story is being forced down. A pilot electing to land for safety reasons in bad weather and being “forced down” have some very different connotations. Of course, Biden’s twist is that he hopes people will think Osama had him in his sights.
I’m sure he would have, but he was probably out for a Latte in Islamabad at the time.

Igor, thanks for your service. I truly admire you guys. My oldest son was a Marine and makes me proud every time I think of him. You’re the greatest!

Pinned down by sniper fire…….he misspoke…….he’s a Democrat.

No American with any self respect could accept a position on a ticket with an empty suit like Obama.
I have admiration for Sen. Jack Reed of Rhode Island for saying NO.

2-1 Republicans are to blame. Oh I’m sorry southerconservative were you saying something.

Are you trying to say making an emergency landing in enemy territory, in a snowstorm, isn’t scary business? You wouldn’t maybe then talk about your experience, if you made it out ok?
Democrat or Republican, we criticize the dumbest things sometimes.

You repubs are really reaching. There is no way that you will be able to trump the Dem ticket’s in terms of truthfulness. Honesty and authenticity are character traits that develop over time. McCain and Palin both are reeling because they have not practiced these attributes. They have no frame of reference for honesty.

It was Taliban snow. Can’t you people see how dangerous that is?

Well, it’s been fun, but I’m going to read the Good Book and go to bed. Y’all say your prayers!
Semper fi!!!

The US is 12th of the quality of life index, the UK is 17th. Next BS point please!

God forbid if Obama is our next president. That man could not handle the pressure and Biden is so aloof and distant I would not trust him to run the controls of a carnival ride. If Obama gets elected the military will essentially have to stage a coup and remove him from office. He just doesn’t have what it takes to be president. He’s not man enough. It’s a rough and rugged world out there. We need more former military officers to get involved with politics and run for office. Like Eisenhower and Teddy Roosevelt. Colin Powell would make a great president as would Schwartzkof but Obama? No way…he probably has decent management skills and he’s definitely a smart guy but standing up to the world’s thugs requires a FU attitude at times and frankly speaking Obama doesn’t come across as intimidating at all. He’s more of a “bake sale” guy as opposed to “cage match” guy which is what we need right now.

For point of clarity, the term “forced down” implies a hostile threat while the appropriate term of art would be “precautionary” landing due to weather.
The pilot was smart to land if he was concerned about flying in the midst of cumulo-granitus. Those particular clouds have a very solid core.
As they say — it’s better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air than in the air wishing you were on the ground.
Joe Biden is a freakin’ chicken hawk who received 7 educational deferments to avoid serving during the Viet Nam era.
“Forced down” my butt! Just another drama queen running for office. Well, at least he wasn’t under sniper fire, eh?
LOL

It was my Delta Raiders (1-158IN RGMT, AZ ARNG) that rescued Biden, Hagel & Kerry, along with MG Rodriguez. First off, there was no 3 star general. It was Major General (2 Star) Rodriguez on-board, the 82nd Airborne Division’s Commander, & a great commander at that. Secondly, the birds were landed due to heavy snow. My Raiders Gun-Trucks had to stop approximately 1 mile away from the landing site,also due to the heavy snow, hoofing it to their position, then escorting them back, onward to Bagram. Senator Chuck Hagel was very grateful & happy to see the Raiders. Just ask SSG Pardue, SSG McClain, SSG Dempsey, SGT Genthe, 1LT Chamberlain, et al – All Delta Company, 1-158IN RGMT RAIDERS… God Bless America & Our Troops.

Hahahahaha! I suppose he thinks he’s a war hero now too. Maybe we should give him a purple heart for almost nearly being practically on the actual cusp of danger.

re:Post by: British & interested | Sep 22, 2008 8:17:58 PM
Good points. Obama headed the Nato oversight committee. Did Europe follow through on Obama’s request to fulfill their commitment to send the Nato troops to Afghanistan? Some did. Most didn’t.
Did Europe agree to Obama’s request that troops sent to Afghanistan should be actually prepared to fight? Australia and Canada sent in more fighting troops than Germany. Italy, Spain and others combined.
Obama has said he will disregard Pakistan’s territorial integrity when it comes to fighting the Taliban and Al Qaida? Will Europe back him all the way?
Obama has proposed a law requiring both the US AND Europe to reduce WORLDWIDE poverty by 50% by 2015. Is Eurpope beginning to pay it’s share to make this happen? All those poor Russian, Chinese, African and Middle Eastern folks need our cash to get out of poverty. Are you giving .7% of your GDP to make this happen?
How does Europe feel when Obama said we need to begin to negotiate with Iran to stop them from developing nuclear weapons capability. How about when Obama said under his administration he will CHANGE the negotiations to begin to offer carrots as well as sticks. I guess all your negotiations didn’t mean zip to him and all you were offering were threats without true incentives.
Virtually all of those countries know nothing of Obama’s policies or positions. They are like many in the US in love with his rhetoric and some of his dreams.

Biden was making a point – that AlQaeda isn’t in Iraq they’re in Afganistan. Why just recently Biden’s chopper was FORCED DOWN in Afganistan, that’s how you know Al-Q is strong in Afganistan. That was the point of his remarks. The implication was CLEAR that they were forced down by Al-Qaeda. It’s called LYING. Anybody remember Hilly under fire with Chelsea in Bosnia?

Given what visibility is like in Alaska, I guess Palin must have been “forced down” in “hostile territory” hundres

Dave in l
Britan did Australia did (Only after talking to Obama)…
If oobama is elected relations wwith the rest of the world will improve it just a fact.
Wether you care or not what ever!

You proved my point even if the figures are old:
2007
2.EU $16.830 trillion
3.US $13.794 trillion
500M is included in that you ninny!
So whats your point ???

I am the Captain that went to get him. He was in one the most secure place of Afghanistan were they went down. To this day I nor my men have received a thank from Him. It was a snow storm and he complained about how long it took us took get there.

British & interested
Just curious. Why is the NATO run Afghanistan mission going so badly?
What is Europe doing to fix it?

Where would we, the United States, be right now if the entire global community refused to lend us one more dime?
This is not the time to be badmouthing our allies. We live in a global community and its about time everyone woke up and realized what that really means to our existence!

“Where would we, the United States, be right now if the entire global community refused to lend us one more dime?”
Gee Amy, explain to me how we are coercing so many countries to lend us money.

Joe Biden had a chance to take out Bin Laden, and he didn’t do it. WHY?

southernconservative;
If you believe that McCain/Palin are liars and the “O” camp tells the truth, you are no more conservative than Bill and Hill. I am a conservative libertarian and I can CLEARLY see the lies, half truths, and communist ideals of not only the obama camp, but the vast majority of the democrats in government. There are a great number of ordinary citizen democrats that are honest, decent people. They are really conservative and identify as dems because their parents did. That is not the case with most dems in government. They are marxists with an evil agenda and constantly lie trying to move said agenda along. Long live America and her beautiful Constitution!

notafool
If china called in you 3 Trillion dollar debt to them your nation would be scr*wed.

notafool
Incase you missed it:
Posted by: Dave in lv | Sep 22, 2008 9:35:40 PM
British & interested
Just curious. Why is the NATO run Afghanistan mission going so badly?
What is Europe doing to fix it?
=======================================

There is being forced down and being forced down. You will notice that Joe didn’t make any distinctions or tried very hard to show that it was a non hostile cause. “Our Imagination…” leads us to believe based on his story that somehow he was “forced down” versus landing due to weather. So whose fault it it? His, for trying to imply something that isn’t and then running with it. Sounds a lot like another passenger on that helicopter. Jerk I and Jerk II.

Joey avoided the draft five times! Last week, they had his transcripts from the Univ. Of Delaware, all C’s, only A’s were in Phys. Ed and Joey flunked ROTC.

The EU isnt scared of Russia we just dont see them as a major threat!
Georgia started a war to take a rebel provice back in doing so they killed russian peace keapers!
If they had been US or UK peace keepers we take action to!
Nrth Ireland belongs to Ireland the should have it back half of the uk think they should..
Your confused all you conserviates didnt know that the EU is bigger and has more money than you..
You didnt know that that the EU milatary is biggerthan yours..
You didnt know that even nations like australia with the same population as texas gave more money to other countries than yours did.
News flash your not number one anymore!
In anything really..
Except starting wars.. You are good people that have been ruled by the wrong people for too long!
You can change it or go down the same path it will be a lonely one!

Funny how this article simply states what Biden said, that his helicopter was forced down, which IT WAS! I like the way republicans spin something so miniscule instead of reading the man’s message.
This phony war in Iraq was started for NO APPARENT REASON, we have let OSAMA BIN LADEN WALK!
WAKE UP AMERICA!!!! The blind leading the blind.

Quotes:
Sarah Palin — “I went to a fight and a hockey game broke out!”
Joe Biden — “I went a rug factory and a shag carpet grew out of my head like a Chia Pet!”
John McCain — “I was able to endure those years in the prison camp by way of my faith in God and my great country…The United States of America. We are not perfect but we’ll forever be trying to better ourselves and learn from our mistakes.”
Barak Obama — “Damn, this is some real good crack.”

Thank-you Ladies & Gentlemen for the props. Nice to see CPT Dalrymple from the 82nd DSTB post as well. I only ask that everyone keep Our Military deployed throughout the world, & their Families whom are separated from them, in our thoughts & prayers…

We have been hearing a lot in this presidential campaign about experience but you know there is also legitimate questions about the respective candidate’s judgment and foresight. For starters, what does the candidate’s VP selections say about their judgment and foresight?

We receive a pretty steady stream of military coffins in Canada from the mess in Afganistan.I guess its because after 9/11 it was understood that membership in NATO may lead to shooting because someone else was attacked. McCain and Palin appear to understand that too.The people who appear to have trouble getting their head around it are the Europeans and Senator Obama’s booster club in the US media

yourbrainwashed
We have been fighting phoney wars since this natio started. Just read a little history. civil war, spanish american, british defence ww1 ww2 somolia gulf war 1. But Saddan pushed a little to far, said Bill and Hillary Clinton and most other dems along with rebubs. A lesson was needed to promote th UN.

DIRK….Fools – I hope your 401k and mutual funds are doing well. This election is about the economy (period) repubs had 8 years to de-regulate everything (see phil grahm) and now its a mess. think about your children and the mess we’re giving them. stop focusing on the iraq problem – we all know it was a lie and will never benefit the usa
The Dems did this in 2yrs! What could they do in 4? Carter all over again and he $ucked bad

How sad. The choice here is simple. You can vote in a young communist with dictatorial leanings, or an old liberal populist who wants everyone to like him. Who do you think will do less damage in four years?
As for this story, Biden implies, heavily, that his helicopter was forced down in Afghanistan as the result human enemy action.
” ‘If you want to know where Al Qaeda lives, you want to know where Bin Laden is, come back to Afghanistan with me,” Biden said. “Come back to the area where my helicopter was forced down, with a three-star general and three senators at 10,500 feet in the middle of those mountains. I can tell you where they are.’ “, sounds a hell of a lot more macho than, ‘ “If you want to know where Al Qaeda lives, you want to know where Bin Laden is, come back to Afghanistan with me,” Biden said. “Come back to the area where I was stranded by a snowstorm, with a three-star general and three senators at 10,500 feet in the middle of those mountains. I can tell you where they are,’ “. Doesn’t it?

well brain washed. he also said they they were on the road between pakistan and afghanastin the superhighway of terror. when in fact as the rescuing officer who was there said they were in the safest part of the area no way near terror highway. to-boot he compained about how long it took and never thanked them. what a claasy guy. NOT!! your line is true you really are brain washed

I am so sure the media will attack Biden for this as they did Hillary when she made her Bosnia comment?
I doubt the media even mentions it they are all in bag for Obama

I was also there, after I came back from Cambodia.

I didn’t read a lie in Biden’s comment. the helicopter was brought down, noting more. I can’t believe how many comments were generated having nothing to do about the story.
Anyways, biden didn’t say anything wrong in his comment.

I’m leaving these Obama minions to you guys and gals. Their whining dribble makes my head hurt.
Just say “No” to Obama in November!

It seems that many of these comments are full of something that smells bad. Truth is a scarce commody in these web sites. A multitude of alleged facts us gleaned from the most insignificant happenings.
Actually the liberals spew out the most garbage and the conservatives seem to be crossing the “T”s and dotting the “I”s with their version of the events. Its too bad that more people don’t give a damn about their country and stick to the truth.
What is the truth? I’m not sure that I really know anymore. Can’t trust the networks anymore. Can’t trust the newspapers anymore. Cant trust the politicians anymore. Cant trust 98% of the respondents in these web sites anymore.
So who can you trust? I’ll be damned if I know anymore. What a disgusting turn of events this political scene has turned out to be!
BAH HUMBUG TO ALL THE LIARS HEREIN!!!

Why doesn’t Senator Biden say who rescued him after his helicopter was forced down? He was rescued by the private contractors of Blackwater Worldwide.

One thing to ponder….if the GOP caused the financial crisis you can bet the Dem controlled congress would be holding hearings..the hearings are not happening because the Dems know who is to blame…good nite..

And then he took the controls, regaining air speed and attacked and killed 638 taliban.

The only thing that forced Biden’s copter to the ground was the sheer weight of his BS and the hot air he was spouting with all his blustering stories.

and your point is?
Last time I checked the Senate was debating a trillion dollar bail-out…and you’re playing political semantics with a VP candidate? One would think it was a slow news day, but it’s NOT!

Lynne – Do a “Find” for Tex’s comments below:
“Posted by: TEX | Sep 22, 2008 10:28:03 PM”
Then go have some more kool-aid.

Axelrodian Trojan Moose Tuesday A.M. Newswhip!

Clever But Stunned Democrats Attempt to Relate to Bitter Stupid Bastards with No Critical Thinking SkillsBanned Obama References 1 Banned Obama References 2 A Pig the Size of a Shetland Pony Holds Woman Hostage! Now you know how the Obama

Funny how Liberals have to use insults & name calling to make their points. That’s the kind of people Obama attracts.

As usual the democrats are lying. They don’t have the guts to be a hero like John McCain, they have to create invisible enemy’s and pretend to be under fire like Hillary claimed to be. It just amazes me that the democrats can still get any votes. Only idiots and losers would vote for these bums.

Can you imagine how upset Obama supporters will be if the Big O does lose the election??

Where is the criminal investigation on
Freddie Mack and Freddie May. All these guys are crooks to the MAX!
ALL THESE GUYS THAT COOKED THE BOOKS
Christopher Todd, Chuck Schumer, Barney Frank, Barack Obama, Hillary, and all that was involved in this.
They should all resign!

wow you people are dumber and more easily lead than pundits on fark
these terrorists don’t resemble the ones from a crappy bruce willis movie. they don’t have the cinematic ability to ‘force a helicopter down.’ They TRY to shoot them down. The response of the jet heli is not to land, dumbasses. Read by someone not trying to muckrake, his comments do not insinuate anything except, “holy crap, we were pissing ourselves because the pilot had to land in the damn mountains.”

joe biden – war hero! gosh gee
john mccain – war hero! who cares
obama – no experience! gosh gee
palin – no experience! who cares
I’ll take real here and experience running something any day.

this comment is for ann who posted the day of sep,23 2008at1:56:21am. Ann you claimed john mcain was in denial about global warming. How about this when Michigan was covered with 1.50 miles of 20,ooo years ago was it man made global warming that made the ice melt. Or was it the wooly mammoths farting that caused the ice to melt u tell me. lol
“lously old libs”

Jeremy,
Global warming isn’t new science. Studies have been going on since the 1890′s. We have reached the point where we can no longer ignore it. We know that when you spew CO2 into the air,or when too many cattle poop and fart and give off methane gas things are going to heat up. We know that man’s activities ( how many people in the world now, 6.7 billion?) are increasing the temperature of the planet. Even if it’s a combination of both nature and man made we are running out of time. The book “The End of Nature”.
We maybe have a small window left to turn things around. Maybe both parties should stop with the petty bickering and start acting like adults and roll up our sleeves together and get to work on what we agree on. There is no doubt that we have to make radical changes in how we live. Should we wait until all the oil runs out? By the way, the russians have the oil…maybe it’s time to change the rules of the game and make oil obsolete.

Jon,
Well, your doing ok with 3 examples of republicans being veterans. I did say 5 examples. Hmmm, seems you forgot your #1 guy, Bush. Oh yeah, but he was sleeping it off in a airplane hanger in alabama, he didn’t make it Viet Nam and before that he was a cheerleader at Yale. Ahh, let’s see Cheney, hmmm no, he flunked out of Yale and then he got off the hook somehow. It’s pretty well known that Republican politicians have served less in the military than democrats. You should show a little for any person who goes into the military, regardless of party affiliation.

Hey Jimma Carter,
That’s what Obama’s been saying all along. We need to put more resources into Afganistan and Pakistan. It needs more resources than Bush and McCain have been giving it. Sounds like Obama’s your answer.

Ann,
Geez, where to start. There are 19 Republican senators that are vets. No, it’s not nice to mock veterans. Tell Barack Hussein (I thought about joining) Obama after he said McCain was dishonorable. Get real!!
The financial crisis goes back further than 6 years. The housing crisis that led to the financial crisis had a good start when Carter implemented the Community Reinvestment Act forcing lenders to give loans to people that could not afford them so everyone can be homeowners. Clinton reinforced it so lenders had to come up with inventive loans so people that should not be given loans were able to get them. Otherwise the lenders were accused of redlining and faced penalties. Barney Frank was in charge of oversight. Obama has taken more bribery money in a shorter amount of time than any other Senator to do nothing. And he has repaid them by doing just that.
WOW, this is too easy!
How can it be illegal wire tapping if the congress signs off on it?
Habeus Corpus is an American right. We don’t have to grant our rights to non-citizens (including those that sneak into the country).
The Geneva Convention does not apply to terrorists but even so, they have it much better than they give our brave countrymen.
Murdering women and children indicates they were specifically targeted. Like the babies that Obama wants killed after a botched abortion. Unfortunately, only the first one is untrue.
I was just getting over the Global Cooling of the 70′s when the Global Warming hit. Now it’s global climate change since it is not getting warmer any longer. Just keep hanging on to your hope. Oh, and the world isn’t flat. Hate to burst another bubble.
Jump back to the Daily Kos where you can join in the rally and nobody gets to post anything the sheep don’t want to hear.

Dave B,
What a bunch of B.S. It’s late, I’ve got to get up early and drive my children to school tomorrow.
You obviously either work for the RNC or your sitting at your computer w/ the republican playbook.
Veterans, my point was to stop trashing veterans no matter what party they are with…they all deserve respect.
Re: Fannie and Obama, here’s 9/22/08 quote from Newsweek “…Never mind the fact that Raines never actually advised Obama on anything. The real problem here is that McCain’s campaign is swarming with 26 advisers or fundraisers who have lobbied for Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac–including nearly a dozen who lobby right now. As the Washington Monthly’s Steve Benen wrote last week, “one of McCain’s top policy advisers, Charlie Black, was lobbyist for Freddie Mac for 10 years, while his campaign manager, Rick Davis, lobbied to help Fannie and Freddie steer clear of additional federal regulations [and earned $2 million in the process]… Tom Loeffler, who serves McCain’s campaign co-chairman, also lobbied for Fannie Mae. Aquiles Suarez, a McCain economic adviser, was a Fannie Mae executive. Dan Crippen, a McCain adviser who helped craft the campaign’s health-care policy, lobbied for Fannie Mae (and Merrill Lynch). Arthur B. Culvahouse, who helped lead McCain’s VP search committee, also lobbied for Fannie Mae.” According to former Fannie Mae executive William Maloni, “photographs of Sen. McCain’s staff… loo[k] to me like the team of lobbyists who used to report to me.” Without these ties–which are far more extensive than Obama’s–McCain would have every right to say that associating with officials from troubled financial institutions is a sign of bad judgment. Again, it’s not like Obama’s hands are spotless. But with them, McCain offers Obama an otherwise unavailable opportunity to remind voters that McCain’s own judgment–at least by McCain’s own standards–is worse. So much for “no seat… at the table.”
Earthday in the 1970′s …I went to some of those celebrations as a kid…no they were not all about “global cooling.” It was much more that. It was the being of the environmental movement and inspired by Rachel Carson, the author of “Silent Spring.”
China debt….your answer made no sense.
My point was Bush want to allow people to invest their Social Security funds in the stock market. The stock market is not the best place for amateurs.
Katrina…your argument has been disputed 100′s of times and the republics fired Mr. Brown for failing at his FEMA job. I like the rest of American wondered “where is our President in this crisis?”
Wiretapping case is currently in the courts and AT&T is having to defend it’s self. Case still pending. Your answer about FISA is wrong. FISA was set up so the goverment could listen to calls and then apply for a retroactive warrant. Out of 100′s of warrants Fisa turned down only a few. My problem is not with wiretapping terrorist, it is the wiretapping they are doing with american journalist and other polictians outside their party.
Let’s not even mention the outing of spies.
Yes, haebua corpus is under attack by the bush administration. Your answer, silliness.

This story could take on a life of its own. It’s not that Senator lied about anything, it’s the way that the story is phrased and omission of critical facts. such as the reason they had to land was due to bad weather. To the people on here who talk about Global warming, Global cooling, and climate change, as a meteorologist I have yet to see any study as any great evidence that man is having huge influence on the Global climate. There have been studies showing thinner ice thickness in parts of Polar regions and there are studies showing thicker ice in other parts of the polar regions. I remember 2005 when there was huge increase in the number of tropical systems in the Atlantic Basin. People wanted to blame this on Global warming. What most people didn’t want to point out, was that the Pacific basin had far fewer Tropical Cyclones than normal. this was actually a result of the quasi biennial oscillation of upper level winds. I for one believe that if global warming were in deed truth, there would be no need to change the buzz term.

“Earthday in the 1970′s …I went to some of those celebrations as a kid…no they were not all about “global cooling.” It was much more that. It was the being of the environmental movement and inspired by Rachel Carson, the author of “Silent Spring.” Rachael Carson was another Gore alarmist that didn’t let facts stand in the way of truth. Her book was responsible for the banning of DDT… maybe the best insecticide ever discovered by man… remember the law od uninteded consequences??? Result of banning DDT.. 15,000,000 dead people… Why is Bill Gates building a plant in Africa to start producing DDT??? Why do liberals depend on their “feelings” instead of facts?

Biden; Forced Down, Forced Out?

Joe Biden has been embellishing a story just a little bit and that story is that his helicopter was forced down in Afghanistan. While I suppose that we would technically call it forced down, the reality is that it landed because of weather. So, if I …

Interesting… When you can’t refute a fact, attack with ridicule. Now THAT is right out of the James Carville/Paul Bagala playbook!

Biden’s bravado is merely another Demo”rat” attempt at creating an imaginary moment of heroism. Biden needs to contract with a wastewater treatment plant to directly collect his sewage as it pours from his mouth and try to treat it before it is released to the people (where it will be investigated and checked for Bovine fecal matter). Biden has learned well from Hillary Clinton and John Kerry and all his demo”rat”ic friends. They are able to create fairy tales and pretend they are truth. A proper name for this disease is “pathological liars.” Come on Joe, you need to stand up and apologize to the snow storm that forced your flight to land. Even John Kerry said that was what happened.
How can Biden be a leader when he cannot even tell the truth? How can this be a potential “next president?” NO! Just say not to BO! And Biden’s gotta go.

I grew up in Delaware when they had a REAL Senator. He must be rolling over in his grave at the thought of Joe Biden a heartbeat away from the Presidency!

How many Purple Hearts did Kerry-Patton received for this adventure? Must be at least two! Was it Christmas Eve again? Secret mission? I would like to hear this story after Joe’s had a few, I’m sure it just gets better and better!

Just Googled this story…it seems the helicopter never took off. The flight was canceled due to the approaching bad weather. I guess having a flight canceled is the same as being forced down in the minds of Kerry and Biden. The convoy was to the base O-Club for a few drinks and war stories.

Of course Bin Laden isn’t in Iraq. We’re there!! He’d be safer in the streets of DC than he would be in Iraq.

To Meteologist Man,
Dont confuse em with the facts, my friend. Its a religion to them. And their religion is grounded Only in faith, not faith and facts. Regards.

Sen Biden nice job you big loser! Aborting a mission for weather is not the same as being shot down. I can’t believe you are trying to make yourself sound like a hero when you are a zero. You should take better notes and listen to Sen McCain who is a true war hero. Pulling out of Iraq would leave that country in chaos but who cares as long as we have forced health care and $10 gallon for gas? I already have one of Sen Clinton’s forced HMO and it sucks! We should have the freedom to choose or own health care.

Yeah, Biden also lies about his first wife who died in a car accident. Even today, Biden claims a drunk truck driver killed her, when in fact, the driver wasn’t drunk and wasn’t cited, nor was his truck found to be unsafe. The conclusion of the authorities is that his wife pulled out in front of the truck. No doubt Biden was trying to get sympathy vote and he’ll trash a dead man and his family to score political points.

Biden the super slueth! So he believes that Bin Laden is where the US helicopter with three senators and 2 generals went down, waited out a snow storm without incident. With Biden on the case it won’t take long to get Bin Laden now.

terry2f, biden lied by omission and you want to trust him to fix the economy?
Google Johson, Rains, Freddy Mac, Fanny Mae and Obama. See who actually screwed Freddy and Fanny, made millions in the screwing and now work for obama.
Or do facts scare you if they show your guy to be the crook everyone else knows he is?

If they just would have had a community organizer they would have been able to avoid that storm.
“His rise is remarkable in its own right. It’s the kind of thing that could happen only in America. But he’s never run a city, never run a state, never run a business. He’s never had to lead people in crisis. This is not a personal attack. It’s a statement of fact: Barack Obama has never led anything.” — Rudy Giuliani

Here is a first hand account of Biden’s helicopter ride:
Hey folks,
If you watch the news or read the papers Im sure you saw the article about the helicopters full of senators etc… that landed on a mountain over here in Afghan. Yeah, it WAS us, 7 of my buddies and myself. Yeah, it sucked, and yeah, it was cold as heck. We were out there for too dang long in the snow, rain, ice, sleet and wind. But, we had CAS (close air support) flying over (F-15s and A-10s) head at nearly all times and they had a live Predator feed going the whole time too (when they could see anyway).
It was pretty hairy at first, but once we were on the ground all was ok. We had about 100 or so locals (freindly? who knows) all around on the mountain tops watching all night. No shots fired, so, we didnt either. Its all good.
Shortly after the landing, we had ground guys (Arizona National Guard) mobilized and on thier way to our location. Now, about the AZ guys… AWESOME is the only word to describe them. I have worked with many active and guard units, and these fellas were TOP NOTCH for sure. Outstanding. The guys stood outside, all night and all day, in the rain, snow, wind etc… Tough as nails, and didnt complain for a second. A huge thank you goes out to those boys for doin what they do best.
So, part of their force took the senators, generals ect… back “home” and the rest stayed with us. Then it was a waiting game for weather to clear. Now, 37 hours after we departed, we are “home”.
Good times good times. I have some pics of the area, weather ect… and I’ll post them when I can.

There’s that dang global warming again, messing up the good senator’s ride to glory…

Let’s see if this gets as much play as HIllary and the sniper fire.
Oh wait — we only massacre HRC, don’t we? The Chosen One’s team gets preferential treatment from most.

Sara …
Biden’s lies includes what he says and what he intentionaly does not say. He ment it to be taken as if he were forced down by hostels. You don’t know Joe very well do you? Ask him about his alter-ego …Neil Kinnock.

Also, since this story was published months ago and was very well known, I doubt he thought he had to go into intricate detail to explain what happened. It was common knowledge.

“He ment it to be taken as if he were forced down by hostels.”
It’s the “inn” thing to do.

Sara, you rube….
If Biden was quoting Kinnock; why was Neil Kinnock talking about the Biden family in Pa. He was not quoting Kinnock…he took the entire speech and made it his own. Again…if it was a quote…why was Kinnock talking about the Biden family??

Thanks again, Joe
WASHINGTON, DC — Another case of Joe being Joe.
The Delaware Senator took issue with an attack ad from his own side in an interview with CBS, telling Katie Couric that the Obama hit on McCain’s ignorance of computers and technology was “terrible.” The ad paints McCain as out of touch — and all but calls him ancient — but doesn’t mention that the Arizona Senator’s war injuries actually prevent him from using computers for an extended period.
Asked whether he’s disappointed with the tone of the campaign, including the ad that Couric characterized as “making fun of John mcCain’s inability to use a computer,” Biden said “I thought that was terrible by the way.
“I didn’t know we did it and if I had anything to do with it, we would have never done it”

I was there, in the helicopter, on the controls. I can tell you all right now, it was NOT fun at any point. Was it dangerous? YES, yes it was. Why you ask? Try flying a helicopter past 14000 foot tall mountains that you CANT SEE! Then, find a place to land, in the mountains, when you CANT SEE! NOT fun. Oh, and yes, Im still in Afghanistan right now.
Sen. Biden did just fine. He really is a pretty good guy, and his comments were accurate and appropriate in my opinion.
They were not “rescued” by Blackwater civilians. They were convoyed to Bagram by the infantry of the Arizona National Guard that was doing all the fighting in the area at that time. Excellent bunch of guys. They stayed with us (the crews) until we could be extracted the next afternoon.
As a US Army Pilot, Sen. Biden has my respect, as do all the other people who were involved with the situation.

Dave,
Don’t you remember Pres. Clinton wanted every American to be able to buy a house! So the mortgage industry lowered all the existing standards, ignored marginal credit scores, did not require buyers to put any money into a house-IE no down payment, and let them have the seller pay the buyers closing cost, even created down payment assistance program disguising themselves as a non-profit organization, created 100% financing and did 80/20 loans (1st loan for 80% and a 2nd for 20%) so the marginal buyer could get out of PMI insurance etc, not to mention lets do a interest only loan on ARMS because home prices always rise…..This is the problem with the mortgage and banking industry today, we had no rules-no minimum standards if you had a pulse you got a loan…thus we will all suffer, the 1st wave of mortgage companies to go under where in the secondary mortgage markets holding the 2nd lien at 20% and no insurance, now we have the primary mortgage market falling. Wake-up nothing is free in life, and if it is to one person, someone else is the one paying for it.
“Dave B,
One last thing. From 2000 -2006 we had a republican president, a republican congress, a repubican senate. Why didn’t you fix Fannie Mae? Jimmie Carter’s problems? or Bill Clinton’s? Just take the responsiblity and stop blaming the democrats.”

If Joe Biden knew he was flying into a dangerous storm and flew anyhow then he is not only crazy, he risked other people’s lives as part of his mania. Ditto for Hagel and Kerry. As officer vets, Hagel and Kerry are supposed to have the smarts and judgement to avoid unnecessarily risking American service lives.
As to the supposed “flyer” of the helicopter – let’s have his name, rank, serial number. This “flyer” in “Afghanistan” is probably a hoaxer.
Which makes me sick of the bastards who perpetrate these insults to our heroic service members.
-Retired Army Officer

omg, he was joking around. haters can turn anything into a lash. before you go on about biden, can you explain to us why palin lies so much? bridge to nowhere? earmarks? she’s only been around for a few weeks, and already lied more than the other 3 candidates combined. heard she was ambitious….

Senator Biden tried to embellish what happened during his VP helo flight.
He was on helo to avoid problems on the ground. The aircraft was forced to land due to weather.
No hostile fire was involved. Biden told the story so it sounded like he was shot at and forced down by enemy fire.
Biden is a story teller who lives in a fantasy world. He still can see FDR on TV telling America about the crash of 1929.
Hmm!
How many other delusions does he have?

Biden was not joking when he told his story.
Biden was trying to emphasize that our real enemies are in Afghanistan and not in Iraq.
Hmm! Joe knows were the bad guys are cause his helicopter was forced down by problems with visibility in a snowstorm.

I wouldn’t believe Joe Biden under oath!

Sounds a little bit like Hillary running for cover under withering fields of interlocking sniper fire!