Undermining McCain Campaign Attack, Republicans Back Obama‘s Version of Meeting With Iraqi Leaders

This story only reaffirms the fact that the McCain campaign is truly desperate and will hang on to lies and rumors to deserve the American public.

Good JOb Jake and Kirit. I felt that this story was shakey at best.

Wow, it took you guys all week to cook this explanation up?
Can’t wait to see what defense you guys come up with for the Palin email hacker.

Washington Post sinks to a new low. Thanks, Jake, for fact-checking our so-called news organizations.

Jake,
I guess I give up on you now. I can see now that you’re in the bag for Senator Obama since you’re fact-checking lies against him. How dare you do that? You, journalists, are not supposed to be fact-checking lies. Just report them! Now I see you all didn’t jump on the story when it initially came out. You were trying to legitimize it, huh? How bias of you?

Chuck Hagel is the Joe Lieberman of the GOP … and not only that, the McCain spokesman said, “…if these reports are true …”
…. if they were true there would definitely be a problem for Obama!

More McCain lies.
TYPICAL REPUBLICAN.
OBAMA IS A LEADER.
McCAIN IS A LIAR.

Get on the hacker story Jake. Who cares what Chuck Hagel says. Trying to spin the story in Barry’s favor as usual.

“Chuck Hagel is the Joe Lieberman of the GOP”

harry, Obama’s great Berlin speech was terrific, it showed the world what kind of leader Obama is, bringing 200 000 Berliners on the street, is a job well done Obama. Obama is presidential and McCain is confused and out of touch.

McCain is shameful!
Country first vote Obama because Americans deserve truth not lies.
McCain living in mansions rolling in the gutter!
McCain puts his country first like when he sold it out in Vietnam.

Obama: Get into the face of your neighbors and argue if they disagree with me.
Obama is a smiling Mr. Nice Guy on the outside.
Chicago thug on the inside.
An instigater that tricks others into doing his dirty work because he doesn’t have the guts to fight his own fight.
Then he runs away and lets others take the blame.

“Get on the hacker story Jake. Who cares what Chuck Hagel says. Trying to spin the story in Barry’s favor as usual.”

John McCain’s totally reckless behavior and increasing evidence that the Sarah Palin pick was a disaster are together creating serious problems for John McCain His increasing amount of “confusion” when he speaks adds to this. We shall soon reach the point where the big question in this election is going to be if John McCain himself is to great a risk to be president.

“Obama tried in private”
Really Jake, do you understand what “in private” means?

If Palin used the government email like she is required to do! her account wouldn’t have been hacked so easily.
Lucky she wasn’t the VP imagine the impact it could have had national security.
PALIN she just doesn’t get.
Government email is provided to keep state secrets safe!

Apologize for what??
Hagel has been in the tank for Obama since day one, and I’m sure has promised his colleagues something for going along on this one.
I have no doubts this story is true. Why did it take all week for them to report on it unless they were getting THEIR story straight??
The media has been so one-side in this election it is hard to believe anything that ANY of them say anymore.

More distractions, distortions, divisions and outright lies from the Palin/McCain Double Talk Express.
What I don’t understand is why they lie about stuff that they know can be easily disproven or refuted. The Franklin Raines ad was completely untrue. This time, a Republican Senator and members of the Bush administration are calling them on their b.s.!

repubs don’t need facts to know they’re telling the truth.
facts are for elitists.

The McCain camp prefaced everything in a manner that allowed Obama to respond to an allegation. Unlike Obama’s people who just throw stuff out there hoping something sticks and the media doesn’t vet Obama’s crap very much at all. This needed to be vetted, and thank goodness, John McCain’s camp was looking out for us. No one in Mccain’s camp accused Obama of doing this. They just asked for clarification.

Lets take this to a logical conclusion: Do we want a President that will cherry pick information to support his own view despite clear and undeniable evidence that said view is very distorted? I mean wouldn’t such a President be detrimental to the well being of the United states and its people?
Such a President would be able to justify anything, simply by claiming it to be true and using the most ephemeral evidence as ‘fact’ to support that truth at the expense of more reliable advice and information.
I can’t imagine that any person pursuing such a high and noble office would have any real chance at getting the American people, regardless of party affiliation to support them.
Oh snap.

“described Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., as having urged Iraqi leaders in a private meeting to delay coming to an agreement with the Bush administration on the status of U.S. troops”
A PRIVATE MEETING -drop the water bucket Jake. Obama pulled the Iraqi leader aside and asked him IN PRIVATE

hey hang, the racist name calling this is kinda like the boy who cried wolf at this point …

mccain’s favorability is dropping like a rock. your god, palin, is already in the negatives.

“I wouldn’t put anything past Obama-he went to Iraq already believing in his head he was President Obama.”
That is why this alibi is bogus. There was an offcial meeting and President Obama’s “Private” meeting.

“A PRIVATE MEETING -drop the water bucket Jake. Obama pulled the Iraqi leader aside and asked him IN PRIVATE”
What say you, Jake, you partisan hack.

Where are Sarah Palin’s tax returns?!

Debbie, no.

McCain has lost his mind. His campaign is making things up to attack Senator Obama with…
The media needs to stop supporting out an out lies to be perpetuated.
They must stop running advertisements that include blatant lies. They must stop running articles based on blatant lies.
When the media participates in the perpectuation of lies. And let’s be honest we all know that once they are out there… they do not get cleaned up by recounting the facts. It helps a little bit but certainly not when a campaign has decided to win via lies and slander. They just keep telling the lies and running the ads.
The media is ‘being political’ when it accepts money for ads that include blatant lies no matter which party is doing it.
We as consumers of the media must start demanding that they act more responsibly and stop trying to play ‘innocent victims’ in their role.
McCain’s sex ad should have been rejected as unacceptable to run.
The american people need to actively participate in their relationship with the media as well as their relationship wwith their government.

Sandy, Sandy, Sandy! How cute!!

SandyB
Saying what McCain is going to do is far different from “playing the race card.
“Just because I don’t look like the rest of the Presidents on the dollar bills…..”
“Oh, and by the way, he’s black…”
Read the huffington post story and see who is the lair and who is laying the race card!
PS the race card only works if there is more blacks then whites…. PS America has more white then blacks!
Lucky that lots of those white folk like me look at the issues not the skin color of the candidate!
On the issues…. Barack gets my vote!

“When has Barack Obama played the race card in this campaign? You say he’s done it consistently, when has he done it once?”
Thanks for reminding me, I had almost forgotten about this littel gem:
“Nobody thinks that Bush and McCain have a real answer to the challenges we face. So what they’re going to try to do is make you scared of me,” Obama said. “You know, he’s not patriotic enough, he’s got a funny name, you know, he doesn’t look like all those other presidents on the dollar bills.”
It’s a little more subtle than when he used a more direct line against Hillary, “Did you know he’s black?” But it’s still clearly playing the race card. If you don’t see that, there’s no point in discussing it.
No one in McCain’s campaign has ever raised race as an issue. Not once. Obama was trying to puts words in the mouths of McCain’s staffers and he got stuffed on this one. We haven’t heard a peep since. This was not a proud moment for Barack.

the WP reporter (an Iranian) has also been called out a number of times already for unsubstantiated stories. This was a hatchet job from the word go. The Wp should be ashamed they ran the story without a confirmed source.

to answer your question, it’s the same reason why Obama Campaign and the Media gave credence to all the Bull that they report about PALIN AND McCAIN BEFORE IT IS VERIFIED. YOU PEOPLE KILL ME WITH THIS CRAP. HOW MANY TIMES HAVE THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN AND THE MEDIA POUNCED ON INCORRECT INFORMATION IN REFERENCE TO MCCAIN AND PALIN AND THEN FIND OUT THAT IT IS NOT ACCURATE. WHY ARE YOU ACTING SHOCKED THAT THE MAN SAID “IF THIS IS TRUE” IT’S EGREGOUS?

Even the Bush people have said McCain is not telling the truth. Are you now saying that your fearless leader Bush is a liar? Why dont we just stop all the nonsense and call all republics liars…We already know for a fact McCain, Palin and Bush are…need any more evidence?

The Huffington Post???
Oh, please…………..

Bada Bum Bum Bum, another one bites the dust.
Bye bye right wing lie!

The question is really why the Post published Taheri complete smear job, when Taheri is more discredited than James Frey!

Mack
You wrote:
“Barry is a liar. Caught red-handed attempting to make back door deals. We don’t need another Nixon.”
Flash back 2007:
Mitt Romney compared rival John McCain with late President Richard Nixon
Thursday, accusing McCain of persistently misrepresenting Romney’s positions and flat out lying!

We don’t need a Chicago thug in the Whitehouse. Lying and back door deals aren’t reform.

You tube “McCain seal”,
an ad that mocked Barack Obama, with his face on $100 bill. Released before the statement you quote Woody.
Posted by: Woody | Sep 19, 2008 1:52:49 PM
Thanks for reminding me, I had almost forgotten about this littel gem:
“Nobody thinks that Bush and McCain have a real answer to the challenges we face. So what they’re going to try to do is make you scared of me,” Obama said. “You know, he’s not patriotic enough, he’s got a funny name, you know, he doesn’t look like all those other presidents on the dollar bills.”
It’s a little more subtle than when he used a more direct line against Hillary, “Did you know he’s black?” But it’s still clearly playing the race card. If you don’t see that, there’s no point in discussing it.
No one in McCain’s campaign has ever raised race as an issue. Not once. Obama was trying to puts words in the mouths of McCain’s staffers and he got stuffed on this one. We haven’t heard a peep since. This was not a proud moment for Barack.

*contemporary

Another really bad move by McCain.
Again, it makes McCain look like a man who is extremely desperate and his lies get worse every day.
Republicans with integrity blast McCain for his repeated lies.
What frightens all Americans is McCain and Palin repeatedly violating the Commandment “Thou Shalt Not Lie”.

Who should I believe? Everyone that was there with Obama, or someone who has a history of dishonesty?
Tough choice.

“Who should I believe? Everyone that was there with Obama, or someone who has a history of dishonesty?”
Everyone wasn’t there, it was a private meeting. Open your eyes.

“How can you believe this promise when Obama voted four times to repeal the Bush tax cuts? In other words, he voted four times to take your money out of your pocket. But hey, don’t let facts get in the way of a good love fest.”
Andrew be a true patriot and give your tax cut back like your overseer, Joe Biden, told you to do.

“its no surprise that there are fears that the Republican Party might stoke racial tensions in their favor.”

“Frankly when you read stories in the news about what the GOP is doing in states with voter caging and 11th-hour legislative measures to enact voter restriction laws that disproportionately impact minority constituencies, as well as see the history of ads such as the Willie Horton ads, its no surprise that there are fears that the Republican Party might stoke racial tensions in their favor.”
You can fear all you want but your fears are unfounded. From Wiki: “there are no documented voter challenges based on caging lists in the 2004 elections”.
Are you telling me Democrats aren’t concerned about voter fraud? Do they have a problem with limiting legally registered voters to one vote? Do I have to bring up the voter fraud convictions of ACORN members? Actual convictions! And they’re doing it again but unforntunately it’s not getting a lot of play this time for whatever reason. Sorry, this issue cuts both ways as I’m sure you know.

Woody
You asked:
“How is Obama going to give tax cuts to 95% of the people if 38% of the people don’t pay any taxes today?”
The 38% you talk about pay it through payroll tax and through day today taxes…
Do you every watch the news ?
Now I don’t mean Fake news on fox I mean a real news channel ?
The 38% you speak off get a check and they get access to the same health care senators get or cash to choose there own.
They get money for higher education cost in exchange for helping their communities.
95% of Americans get tax cuts under Obama!

Chuck Bagel?
When is he going to announce for president? (day 553)
Excuse me but I’ll go with the Terhari articles.

It’s pretty clear.. another diversion tactic used by McCain.
Country first ??? I think he means McCain first.. My god, does he has no honor and proud. But then again… since his economic plans blew right in his face (remember Phil Gramm, we are a country of whiners) he has no issues more except smearing the other candidate.
Obama should run an add on this.

If there had been any truth in this it would have come out long ago An Op-ed piece does not need to have actual facts in it. It is an Opinion. If he had dones so, Hagel and the rest of The republicans that were there would have know. Obama is not stupid. But, you can’t say the same for McCain. His camp really believes that there are some really stupid people out there. That will swallow every thing they say as truth. Even when they have been called out for lying so much in the last month or so.

Woody
You have a great weekend too! : )

James
I see more truth from Obama then McCain its all relative.

This is very poorly researched;
The Strategic Framework Agreement IS the agreement that would concern troop drawdown. The status of forces (SOFA to the troops on the ground) indeed deals with the legal status of U.S. troops in country.
IF Barack asked that the Strategic Framework Agreement be delayed, he did indeed ask that an agreement on troop withdrawal be delayed. That is a fact. Whether or not Hagel or anyone else agrees that it should be subject to congressional review.
The fact is that Barack is asking for a delay in the agreement that would describe the conditions for and resulting troop levels of a drawdown. This fact is apparently not in dispute by anyone, and is direct evidence that he did attempt to cause our troop withdrawel to be delayed for a period of at least a year.
Who’s in the tank for who here?
Bob

Perhaps the McCain camp did not ask the Republicans who traveled with Obama what happened because they can’t be trusted.

THE MEDIA IS SOOOO BIASED. Waaaaaaaa.
Any story that doesn’t accuse Obama of some evil doing must be biased. Couldn’t be that the stories are just complete BS made up by haters and Republican clowns. No, it must always be the “liberal” media
Since when did the GOP start whining so much anyway?
Jesus, just watch FOX if you want Republican cheerleaders.

Haha, yes, you mean the .0035% of Obama’s total contributions that Freddie and Fannie workers have contributed.
Wow that is really some special interest money rolling in. We better watch out for the .0035% sway to the special interests of Freddie and Fannie that these have on Obama’s agenda as POTUS.

.587% of Obama’s money came from the US Air Force…
Well people who work for the US Air Force….

What did Sarah Palin say in her meeting with Iraqi leaders? Sorry, I forgot she’s never been to Iraq.

What, McCain, Republicans, right wing blogs and talk radio lying about Obama?
Lying about Iraq? Well, I never!

Charlie,
McCain came out and “announced” exactly what Barack said yesterday! Obama came out explained whats happening told America his priorities and stated how his tax plan will help the economy. He stated his support for the fed plan and said he is in favor of getting more money into the hands of middle America.

I notice the usual suspects are laying low on Palin today. I wonder why. Pop goes the Kernell.
———————–
Well, she can see a bank from her house in Alaska. And, as we’ve seen, banks are a key factor in our economy.
So, by living so close to bank, by Republican standards, Palin has domestic economic credentials.
FEEL BETTER?

Hagel’s a Republican? Well, sure… he’s been self-identifying that way, but if you actually listen to what he’s said…

If your brain can’t make your lips and tongue form the words,”President Palin”,and your lungs won’t give you any air to blow it through your larynx and out of your mouth and into the air,then VOTE FOR OBAMA.

“If your brain can’t make your lips and tongue form the words,”President Palin” … “

“Hagel’s a Republican? Well, sure… he’s been self-identifying that way, but if you actually listen to what he’s said”
Hagel has been a principled conservative Republican for decades.
I don’t agree with many of his views but to snidely refer to him as RINO shows you have little clue about the man or his record.
Its funny that the 2nd he points out reality, delusional right wingers reject him.
Same thing happened when principled Republicans thought Bush was a bad idea.
Look where that has gotten the Republican party.

Any McCain supporters here to explain their candidates boneheadedness?? Or just attack Obama?? lmao.

“President Palin would be fine.
President McCain will be fine.”
Please tell me you’re a felon and can’t vote…..

If Obama was only trying to delay the Strategic Framework Agreement, then why does the article from NBC on June 16, 2008 seem to indicate otherwise? “Obama also told Zebari, he said, that Congress should be involved in any negotiations regarding a Status of Forces agreement with Iraq. He suggested it may be better to wait until the next administration to negotiate such an agreement.” I understand that this was from a phone conversation before the visit, but it still indicates that Obama wanted the Status of Forces agreement delayed, not just the Strategic Framework Agreement.

If you grow up in Hawaii , raised by your grandparents, you’re “exotic, different.
”
Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers, a quintessential American story.
If your name is Barack you’re a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.
Name your kids Willow , Trig and Track, you’re a maverick.
Graduate from Harvard law School and you are unstable.
Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you’re well grounded.
If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer, become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor, spend 8 years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people, become chairman of the state Senate’s Health and Human Services committee, spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving of the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran’s Affairs committees, you don’t have any real leadership experience.
If your total resume is: local weather girl, 4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people, 20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000 people, then you’re qualified to become the country’s second highest ranking executive and next in line behind a man in his eighth decade.
If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising 2 beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you’re not a real Christian.
If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress,and then left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you’re a true Christian.
If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.
If, while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no other option in sex education in your state’s school system while your unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant, you’re very responsible.
If your wife is a Harvard graduate laywer who gave up a position in a prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city community, then gave that up to raise a family, your family’s values don’t represent America ‘s.
If you’re husband is nicknamed “First Dude”, with at least one DWI conviction and no college education, who didn’t register to vote until age 25 and once was a member of a group that advocated the secession of Alaska from the USA, your family is extremely admirable.

JAKE – you have got to be kidding. Mccain needs to explain himself why his campaign was so quick to believe the Post story????? that is funny! he doesn’t have the luxury of having the media look out for him 24/7 like Obama. It’s not like you guys jumped on the issue right away to either confirm or deny. Start doing your work and be even-handed about how you all cover this campaign.
Oh, and why you are at it. Why don’t you do a report on ABC Evening News about the horrible Obama Spanish ad that plays on racial tensions?? Amazing how the press has left this one alone. Shame, shame!

Jake,
Did you read any of Taheri’s follow ups? NBC quoted Obama at the time as referring to the SOFA not the SFA.

Ask his fellow Republicans? Why, that would require McCain to pull his head out of his @ss!
And as we all know, due to certain injuries he sustained as a POW, POW, POW, that is just not physically possible anymore.
You’re being so unfair!

“For all you people convinced that the idiots putzes that busted into Gov. Palin’s unsecure yahoo account by answering a simple question that any dolt could figure out by reading a biography of her, are connected with some nefarious plot with direct connections to Obama, please answer me one question.”
Sounds to me like the kid was just being an idiot. It is somewhat fishy that his father happen to be a Democratic Representative active in Obama’s campaign, but I’m thinking it’s probably just a dumb college kid doing what college kids do at that age: do stupid, rash things. Sadly for him, he’s going to pay for this in a very serious way.

How much does the RNC pay these jerks to make their comments? Hate and sarcasm is all they’ve got. Their investment accounts are crashing, so perhaps they’ll have to find jobs. The only way the right has stayed in power is through the lying corporate media, rigged voting machines, voter suppression, caging, etc. But as the ship sinks from their deregulated financial markets, we’re all going down together.

Wasn’t it the Post who also reported the false “Raines” story 3 TIMES? The one that on which the McC campaign based another lying ad.

@Bhrandon
I agree and if it is who people say it is I do think he should be punished. I just can’t see how if this was some sort of Obama operation why it would get posted where everyone could find out. That part makes no sense.
Also for those pushing it to become a big inquiry have you considered that maybe one of the reason the McCain campaign isn’t going balistic over it is because that regardless of the criminal aspects it also paints Palin in a bad light for doing government business on one of the most insecure email sites out there? Which if that was never an issue in the first place those addresses wouldn’t have been published in the news and we’d likely not be talking about this at all right now? This potentially could harm BOTH campaigns not just the Dems.
And as some one who still would really like to vote Republican it would be much appreciated if people could just calm, think a bit and look how it could play for out Palin and McCain as well. (there are negatives) I think the perps should be punished most definatly and I trust that the investigation will lead to whether there’s something more nefarious then just an idiot and if that is the case, then freak out.

It is interesting that Jake would repute this story based on a deflected Repub, but not based on the words from Iraq foreign Minister, who talked and listened directly to Obama. The very fact that it took so many days for ABC to start reporting on this, and immediately used some one’s words to say McCain’s campaign statement, there is something fishy here. Why ABC didn’t comment on this before, McCain campaign only posed on aquestion: is this is true, then Obama’s behavior is not acceptable. This is an apparent ABC’s help trying to dampen down a potentially explosive issue. Remember a TV ad is already out calling Obama on this. BUt there is not a single MSM source questioning it. They don’t want to call people’s attention to it. The problem it, no matter how you can spin this, many people believe Obama tried to stall troop withdrawal by asking Iraqis to delay the negotiation. The reporter of NYP showed Fox news of the Iraq FM’s full interview quotes published in a newspaper.

Thank you for these facts and the logical analysis.

Wow. People are really upset here…They’re jumping all over the “Hagel said” angle and crying “he’s a sellout!”….Let’s see. We have an official visit and the News Corp faithful want us to believe that Obama had “a private meeting” within an official visit while the Bush dept just watched??..like the Bush team was not in the room??….Oh wait. I forgot. That’s the plan!…We’re ALL suppose to forget that Bush was in the room during the last 8 years…Reform! Reform! Fire Chris Cox! —– Rats.

This is disturbing. I am becoming increasingly turned off by the lies, absence of facts, and/or distortions BOTH campaigns are using. It is at the point, that when I go to a news site, I need to google every article just to see if I can ink out the truth. This is unfair to the citizens of the US. Is journalistic integrity dead?

Scheunemann continued. “Senator Obama needs to reveal what he said to Iraq’s Foreign Minister during their closed door meeting.”
He did and now looks even more presidential than before the McCain camp took this most unpresidential swipe at him based on falsehood and distortion.

If this was true at that time Bush would have raised the dead and parted the Red Sea. The media is not reporting the correct version until people get bent out of shape and start responding with votes against Obama. Seems like they are inadvertently trying to sink Obama by allowing misinformation to hover in the air long enough for it to take on a negative effect. I second the motion, the media is a pathetic group of people.

I wrote back to ertdfg about the difference between the Strategic Framework Agreement and the Status of Forces Agreement. The SFA is akin to a TREATY and is being submitted in Iraq to their parliament. If you understand anything about Constitutional law here, treaties are ALSO supposed to be submitted to our Congress. Bush has tried to circumvent that process by calling it an Agreement, but Obama was merely echoing the position taken by prominent lawmakers on both sides of the aisle that it is, in reality, a treaty. And since Bush administration high ranking officials were at the meeting (Obama did not meet with anyone privately) and the Bush team is no friend to Obama, clearly they would been screaming like crazy if Obama had directly contradicted the Administration’s position to the leader of Iraq. The other agreement on Status of Forces, is seen more as a commander-in-chief type agreement that has to do with deployment of troops. While there is debate about this, too, again Bush’s team would have still been crying foul had Obama undermined their position right in front of them.
The second point I made to Hillary or Bust is that I know quadriplegics who use the computer, a LOT, I think McCain can’t possibly be so disabled as to make that impossible for him. And McCain’s lack of use or understanding of the computer is important. How can he understand the nuances and implications of an integral part of our global economic and information community if he has no real practical understanding of it.

liars, liars, liars, liars, liars, liars, liars …
What are we to do? They put out bare-faced INCREDIBLE lies, and then turn around and suggest that Democrats are liars (hey, Dems do occasionally tell one, or stretch a fact, too, but they have NOT gone to the lengths that the Republicans have — they just have NOT).
Republicans are brazen. They want the White House for four more years. They want to continue the dismemberment of our government through behind the scenes machinations, quiet presidential edicts, and keeping all their deliberations secret. There’s money to be made and power to be had and they WILL have it!
These are crazy-making times. Crazy-making.

That’s because McCain is a liar. He will do and say anything to get elected. Period. This man has sunk so low that he has to look up to see the floor. Thanks but no thanks, I don’t want that kind of president ever again.

Hmm, that’s weird, because this sounds like exactly what McCain has said in the ad. Any decision put off regarding troops would mean that they would stay longer. He might want to have a conversation with his National Security Spokesperson.
“In fact, Obama had told the Iraqis that they should not rush through a “Strategic Framework Agreement” governing the future of US forces until after President George W. Bush leaves office,” she said.

Ummm … We’re talking about two separate meetings, Jake. The one where Obama suggested that the Iraqis delay signing the SOF agreement until after the election was with Foreign Minister Zebari. The one where Hegel and Crocker were in attendance was with Prime Minister Maliki.
Pretty sloppy journalism there, bud.

McCain’s campaign taking it’s primary source from the NY Post is a really clear indication of how uncommitted to researching the facts the McSame camp really is.

Many of the posts on here are an awesome tribute to WILLFUL IGNORANCE:it’s alive and well. READ THE ARTICLE PEOPLE, it says Republicans WHO WERE THERE agree with Obama, he didn’t ask for troop withdrawls to be delayed. What a surprise, McCain’s campaign again LIED to try to score political points. It’s amazing that people are still to choosing to believe lies like this one. As I said, an awesome tribute to willful ignorance in the American public.

McCain is in panic mode. Reminds me of Bush 41 when he stooped to calling Clinton and Gore”bozos” McCain has sunk so low he could play handball off the curb. And he looks like an old Charlie Chaplin. (sorry, Charlie.)

Why no comments from Crocker and US Embassy officials in Iraq about what happened? Why instead the quotes from unidentified Bush Admin people, who say that if the story were true then Crocker would have said something? Why not just go to the people who were there, Crocker and the embassy people? Furthermore, who is the unidentified Bush Admin person with knowledge of the meeting? And what kind of knowledge? Firsthand? Hearsay? A briefing? What? And why are unidentified sources, who may or may not have been there, being used to describe what Obama supposedly said? Who are these people being quoted? From my reading of the story, only one unidentified source was at the meeting, and who knows what that person was doing there? Was that person part of Obama’s entourage or somebody else’s? This exoneration raises more questions than it answers.

So my question is, if big ‘O” insisted that any policy matters be left up to the current administration, WHY WAS HE AT THIS MEETING IN THE FIRST PLACE? I think we all know that he was going for a little ‘face time’ to look like he was strong on foreign policy and relations. If he deferred to the Bush Administration in that meeting, seems to me that he had no real purpose in being there. Hmmmmmm…

Funny! Once again, the Bush administration is having to distance itself from the McCain campaign. Who would have guessed that the McCain ticket would become such an embarrassment with their lies/gaffes that Bush would not want to be associated with them.

Drudge gave Amir more then 24 hours on the front page of the Drudge. Its amazing that this writer gets any attention at all. The neo conservatives support this guy. Its not surprising that the campaign of Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., seized upon a column written by Amir. Look whos running McCain’s campaign Schmidt/Rove. Schmidt’s war room must have been gloating again with their latest spin.

All all people, the McCain campaign should have known that anything printed in a newspaper that’s related to politics has a high probability of being inaccurate.

the TRUTH will OUT…..
but it won’t be in this bloated B O blog!
Calling McCain a liar, Calling Hillary a liar, Calling anyone who is against B O a liar AND a racist….. is … I hate to say it… but… here goes….
is like the pot calling the kettle black ‘=).
I’m from Illinois and I KNOW what Obama didn’t do for his constituents and I KNOW what he did to his competition and I KNOW how he built his lists of supporters to push him up the political ladder…..
I KNOW what it feels like to have the highest sales taxes in the country and I KNOW what an unfinished low-rent housing development begun during his first reign as a state senator and still inhabitable after all these years…I KNOW what it looks like!
And …. he’s just not my cup of tea!
So by by…….. watch B O bleed us dry….
Be careful, though.
Be very very careful!
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The possibility exists that both sides are telling the truth about the meeting in Iraq. It is entirely possible that the native english speakers in the room understood Obama to mean “Hey guys, we should really run this by Congress, especially since Bush won’t be president by the time it’s enacted,” while the Iraqis there (possibly listening through translators and until recently living in a brutal dictatorship) understood him to mean “Bush won’t be around forever, so you jerks better not screw me.” There is no true understanding across a language barrier.

Amar Taheri has been accused of making up news stories on multiple occasions. He has had his stories retracted several times as well.
For example:
He alleged that Iran’s UN ambassador, Javad Zarif, was one of the students involved in the 1979 hostage crisis at the US embassy in Tehran. In fact, Zarif was living in San Francisco at the time, attending SF State.
Taheri is a paid liar. If Obama’s campaign had any sense, they would sue him for libel. I don’t doubt that they would win.

Alaska and Arizona, Palin / McCain ticket, Mut and Jeff………These two liars are really creepy, really creepy. Obama is a smart man, a temperate man and a thoughtful man, insight, foresight and hindsite he can do it. He doesn’t require the ‘hero’ status or ‘hockey mom’ from the little town of….on the prairie.
Let’s get on with it. No games. God, this is hurting the people.

McCain-Palin have nowhere to go now but down, and I will tell you exactly how this will happen. They can run away from President Bush, but they can’t run away from the Republican Party. The Republicans will be regarded from now on as “the party that wrecked America.” Over the weeks ahead, as carnage in the economy and the financial markets ramps up, it will become increasingly clear.

Obama, not even yet the elected President, had NO business meddling in these affairs. He did it to get more media attention.

Amir Taheri has a transparent- maybe understandable- political agenda regarding the present Iranian regime and uses his meager journalistic credentials to advance it. The McCain camp does not seem to have learned any lessons from the deceptions perpetrated by some Iraqi dissidents prior to Bush’s misguided war. Fortunaely, the media seems to be more vigilent this time round.

This article is irrelevant because the previous article is already out there in cyberspace and the troops are livid. Retract away but a little too late. I personally believe the initial story as it fits into something Obama would do.

– Jake Tapper and Kirit Radia
“What actually demands an explanation is why the McCain campaign was so willing to give credence to such a questionable story with such tremendous international implications without first talking to Republicans present at Obama’s meeting with al-Maliki, who back Obama’s version of the meeting and completely dismiss the Post column as untrue.”
McCain didn’t consult factual information for the same reason he’s been putting out the bogus “video release” ads with total lies. His latest ad claims that Obama consulted Frank Raines, Fannie Mae’s ousted chief, on economic matters. Obama never did any of this, but McCain was able to appeal to his base by dragging out another historically first black man for the purpose of igniting fear and mistrust of blacks in power.
McCain’s apology for not voting for a day of remembrance of MLK was not received well for a reason. Some people are too old and set in their ways to understand progress and they will resort to the old-style lying and gimmicky politics just to win “honor”.
Losing to Obama will put him out of his mentally warped misery as he learns to be human LIKE OTHERS.
Obama/Biden 08!

I would not believe a single word the GOP says about Obama anymore. They have stooped to a new low in this election and with the global meltdown caused the be Republican administration, the CEO of AIG Maurice Greenberg himself a Republican is it any wonder that the voters are getting very angry at Republicans.
Palin is a blip on the screen and by blocking the investigation she has not thoroughly been vetted. The Republicans are really disadvantaging her by not complying with subpeona’s and there is much more to the story than we know. I would hope ABC has some reporters in Wasilla and getting to the truth before the election -the voters have the right to know everything that a public figure has done in her job while serving the public -not herself.
Palin has also not released her income taxes, I guess those nights when she slept at home and billed the taxpayer are not claimed as benefits. She would be guilty of tax evasion that is why she has not released them. Palin is just another crooked Republican with lipstick and a beehive hairdo. No biggy here and the bloom has worn off.
Republicans have put us into a despirate point and near disaster for the economy. We came this close to a total meltdown and a major depression of the country, do you actually think anyone believes any Republican now?

I would take the word of the Iraqi Foreign Minister over Senator Obama’s. has anyone asked him about caucus fraud? Has anyone in the MSM interviewed any of the people who claim to have evidence of this? Is anyone concerned about fair elections?

Andy,
“Who would have guessed that the McCain ticket would become such an embarrassment with their lies/gaffes that Bush would not want to be associated with them.”
I thought the same thing. But we wouldn’t want to fall into the Rove trap machine now would we. These republican disagreements could be heartfelt, but they could also be setting a stage. In any event, McCain’s “gaffes” are blatent lies and he cannot be trusted. The alternative is that he cannot be trusted with the presidency because he cannot differentiate between truth and right-wing radio and is, therefore, incompetent.
He’s hot-headed and quick to judge if it means divisiveness.
Obama/Biden 08!
Posted by: Andy

Those of you who think the reporter has lie before and so thinks this article about Obama meeting to stopping the withdrawal of troops is also a lie. Is as sick as McCain is a liar. And we know that for sure. He is no different from Bush. Secondly, Mr. Obama and others in the meeting, namely some Republicans Bushes said Obama’s account of the meeting is true. I’m with the reporter, if Obama has stopped the withdrawal of troop it would have been a headliner. But boy, thanks for giving Obama his dues. Most of us know how smart and competent Mr. Obama is in negotiations.

When I ask my friends if they are OK with all of the twisted false commercials McCain put out last week, they say no, but that they HAVE to support them otherwise they may lose.
I always respond by asking them if McCain wins the election, do they see that as a WIN… then they usually frown.
Enough the the tabloid spectacle. Lets all step back from the bullsh*t and use our brains for a moment.
What has the last 8 years brought us? When was the last time you felt secure financially… about 10 years about like everyone else? Do you really think all the neo-cons and wall street thugs working for McCain right now are going to change their tune?
C’mon folks… it is time to lookout for yourself and your neighbors and sweep the criminals out of Washington.
No McCain… No Cheerleader.

Hagel and Lunar are both Republicans and state that the claim is false. Also the Bush administration states it is false.
For those McCain supporters- are you now not trusting members from your own party? McCain is the only one that tells the truth? Come on! He is a liar and even his own party is not willing to go under the bus with him.
Remember that Obama is a member of the Foreign Relations Committee so he has a reason to be there to discuss these issues.
Also, the Bush/McCain camp were against a timeframe that Obama was pushing for until after he came back from his Iraq tour in July where he met with al-Maliki. Suddenly al-Maliki was ready for a timeframe so then the Bush administration started supporting a time horizon/ timetable to release troops. Exactly what Obama has been saying all along. So, how is that delaying the troop withdrawl? If anything, it shows progress for the troops.
It is amazing to me that these McCain supporters are so far brainwashed and ignorant that they only believe what McCain says even though most of his statements are lies. That is scary!!! McCainology is borderline communism!

“and didn’t Obama have an “unauthorized”policy talk”( wink wink) with the Canadians about Nafta….one of those double speak conversations that say “I say” but “I MEAN….”.”
Good example. Because firstly, no, Obama didn’t. His economic advisor, Goolsbee, spoke to the Canadian consul general in Chicago. A memo resulting from that meeting was leaked.
As for Goolsbee’s reassurances to the Canadians, bear in mind that Obama’s intention with NAFTA (as he said specifically at the time) is to include enforceable labor and environmental standards. Now, considering that Canada and the USA already have similar standards for labor and environment, who do you think that’s aimed at? Canada or Mexico?
So why’s that a good example? Because, as with this story, it’s blatantly obvious that many people decide what their opinion is first based purely on their biases, then research it to back that opinion up, ignoring anything that counters their ill-formed opinion, no matter how absurd.
In this instance, when you look at the details, there wasn’t really any contradiction with Obama saying in public that he wants to renegotiate NAFTA to include enforceable labor and environmental standards and Goolsbee saying to the Canadians in private, “don’t worry.” Now had Goolsbee been saying that to Mexico, there might have been an issue.
So in the end, whether Obama’s stance on Free Trade in general is better than McCain’s, that’s a significant issue, worth focusing on. But Goolsbee talking to the Canadians? A complete non-issue.

It’s one thing to bend the rules, another to break them. The McCain-Palin ticket keeps breaking the rules in their political ads with outright lies. I would be ashamed to have them lead this country.

Jack Tapper is doing a great job, this was an interesting story no one would cover and he got to the bottom of it.

Charlie –
See, the country is in a financial crisis. The confidence in the market place — the financial institutions has been shaken to its very core. People don’t trust their invested money is safe.
Confidence that the government is working to solve the problem is critical ( as evident today). So instead of playing politics in this sort of event, Obama rightfully said nothing about any economic plan that he may have. During times like these, democrats and republicans need to work together to solve a crisis. Projecting an image of unity and focus of the government to solve that crisis is paramount.

I thought we weren’t supposed to trust anything the Bush administration says or does?
Never mind, it is as nothing, we remember nothing!
To serve Obama, the Bush administration is, now, ZING! ZOUNDS! A beacon of light, of integrity that cannot be questioned! So let it be written!
Yea, in the final days of the Pre-Obama Era, racists, women-haters, and others, even unto Republicans unto even the members of the Bush Administration, shall be washed clean of their iniquities, shall cast away the shadows that the minions of Move On, Inc. have rendered them for years.
Let the People Hail These and All Such Patriots of the World, These who Witness Truth and Justice!
History will Judge them Well!

Posted by: USVet | Sep 19, 2008 9:02:47 PM
“Folks, there were two meetings. Jake Tapper is confused, again.”
“Meeting 1:
There was one meeting where Obama along with Bush officials met with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki.”
“Meeting 2:
And there was another separate private meeting between Obama and Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari.”
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Truely unbelievable!
It seems that Republicans have no compunction about lying, and in THIS case, fabricating “information” to support the lie! Is there no limit to the depth Republicans will sink in their blind hatred of Democrats and, in particular, Obama!?!

Republican Hagel endorsed Obama, said he wanted to be VP.
They are lying for him.

Ray,
Why not give credit where it’s due:
Hoover/Nixon/Reagan/Bush/Palin/McCain 08!

Now the wackos are even attacking their own. To the one who said that hagel “doesnt even qualify to be a republican” i have long suspected there were at least minimum proficiency lying standards to join. Thanks for the confirmation.

None of which explains why the Obama campaign spokesman, in denying the story initially, worked so very hard to conflate the two different agreements.

Well DUH
you cant believe any thing GOP or Iraqis say

Thanks for the coverage.

I am tired of all the half-truths and outright lies the McCain campaign has been spewing. Sure, the Obama campaign has stretched the truth a few times, but it is nowhere near the untruths of the McCain campaign.
-Bridge to Nowhere
-Claiming Palin didn’t take earmarks
-Claiming Obama asked for $1 billion in earmarks when he had asked only for around 300million, and Palin had asked for many times that amount per capita.
-Obama wants to teach 3-year olds “comprehensive” sex-ed when he wants to teach them enough to protect themselves from getting molested.
-Claiming Franklin Raines is Obama’s econ advisor when all the contact they had was a few discussions on econ issues. (McCain on the other hand, has golden parachute Fiorina who nearly killed HP as his econ advisor).
And now this.
Obama is also on the Senate Foreign Policy Committee, stands to reason he would be there anyway.
Please remember what happened the last time the President lied to America- Iraq- over non-existent WMDs. Bush insisted on jumping in when the UN Atomic Agency told them they had so far found little evidence of WMDs and asked the Bush Admin to at least allow them 6 more months to finish the report if he really wanted to jump into the Iraq mess.
Sadly, they were ignored.

Ummmm … Perhaps the NY Post is just another Murdoch rag meant to distribute distortions on non-right-wing nuts?
Hello!!! You really need to waste time debunking the NY POST?????
The MSM must stop falling for strawman bogus arguments like this one, global warming does not exist and that drilling for oil now will lower gas prices!
C’mon, man, get with the program …

Children, quiet down now and take your seats. Lets stop the name calling. Lets see if there are some issues we can discuss to see the difference between the tickets.
I must first clarify something. McCain is the REPUBLICAN candidate for President. He was at their convention, adopted their platform, and swore loyalty to them. His party has had the White house for 8 years and 6 years of the Congress. Unemployment is higher than it has been in 15 years, real income has dropped dramatically, the national debt has almost doubled to $9.4 Trillion. Mortgages have gone into foreclosure at a higher rate since the depression. Yet, he is running away from HIS REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT faster than Usain Bolt ran the 100 meters. Just two questions for McCain. Are you proud of the job President Bush has done on foreign policy and the economy (you voted with him 91% of the time? And, why won’t you take a picture with him?
1. I believe being well educated is a good thing, not bad. I know this is controversial, but go with me on this. Sarah Palin attended 5 colleges before she could get a degree in journalism and was at the bottom of her class. John McCain was last in his class at the Naval Academy that his daddy got him into. George Bush barely got through Yale (the elitist). Barack Obama graduated at the top of his class and was President of the Harvard Law Review making him one of the brightest, most mature and well-read men of his generation. He got in on scholarship since his single mother couldn’t afford the tuition.
2. Can we agree that Sarah Palin knows nothing about foreign policy and has admitted that she never gave it much thought? Being able to see Russia does not make you an authority on Russia, agree? What was the last book she read on foreign policy before she was nominated for VP (if she has read anything). She has never met a world leader (or any world figure of importance) and has only visited Canada and Mexico on vacation in the last year and spent a few days in Kuwait on a military base. She never set foot in Iraq and her saying so is a lie, and even if she did, she was there for 5 minutes not making her an authority on the issues between the Shia, Sunni and Kurds. During Gibson’s interview She was told to say that the U.S should not second guess Israel if it strikes Iran. The problem is that this is not U.S. Policy. The U.S. has not approved a strike by Israel and has asked Israel not to launch an attack. It happens to be McCain’s position also. She needs to keep her mouth shut or she is going to start a war. Probably with Spain since McCain’s not talking to Spain.
3. Confronting a biased press is a good thing, not a bad thing. Can we agree that Sarah Palin has done everything she and her puppeteers can do to avoid her having to face serious questions about her behavior and conduct as Mayor and Governor? Even if the press is “biased”, a person of substance and courage would face the press and prove that the stories they told were true. Hillary Clinton never ran away from the press. Sarah oh Sarah, the truth will set you free (but then again will end you political career).
4. Secrecy by our government officials is bad. If Sarah Palin and her family and staff have nothing to hide on Troopergate, forget the investigations, just go on CNN and present all your e- mails and phone calls to prove that no pressure was put on anyone to fire your ex-brother-in-law.
5. Sarah Palin and John McCain believe that Roe v. Wade guaranteeing a woman the right to choose should be overruled and will appoint justices to do it. Sarah Palin believes that if your are raped and have an abortion that you are a murderer. Why won’t she just say that on TV in front of all the women in America?
6. Can we agree that even if the “surge” reduced violence in Iraq at this time that if the country listened to Obama and not cowboy George that we would not have needed a surge and 4,200 U.S. soldiers would not be dead and 30,000 not wounded? Which decision do you want to make sure the President gets right?
7, If the surge was so successful in reducing violence, why are we being told it is fragile and Iraq could revert to violence at anytime. So, the surge is working and we need to keep our troop level over 140,000 and can’t bring anyone home. But, if the surge didn’t work we couldn’t bring our troops home because there would be too much violence and we have to stay and fight. So, WE CAN NEVER BRING THE TROOPS HOME until Iraq is a nice friendly democracy where everyone is singing Kumbaya. Simple, if McCain wins the troops stay in Iraq for at least 10 more years. If Obama wins, he brings them home in 18 months and makes the Iraqis defend their democracy.
8. John McCain announces he would fire the Chairman of the SEC. Uh, John, the President can’t fire the members of the SEC (helps to understand the rules of the government you want to lead) and you do understand this guy is a friend of yours who you voted for. Even the WSJ called you an idiot today for suggesting this.
9. John McCain, will you stand in front of Obama and call him a coward during the debates and say that you are a real patriot and Obama is not? Shame on you, but then again you are just like Bush — if people don’t agree with you they are evil and a traitors. Country First! Duetchland Uber Alis!
10. John, what kind of man is away from his wife for 4 years, comes back to find her in a wheelchair and dumps her and their 3 children for a woman 17 years younger than himself and who has hundreds of millions of dollars? What do we call a man like that? I believe we call that man of low character and disloyalty. And, at your inaugural, why didn’t you show pictures of your kids from your first wife and have them on stage with you. Are you ashamed of them that they remind people of what a slime you were to your first wife.
11. Everyone you need to look this up.
Keating 5 and the S&L Crisis. This was the worst economic crisis since the depression. Guess who was right in the scandal involving senators influencing government agencies to protect the CEOs of the S&Ls that were stealing America blind.
Finally I feel bad, and want to give Sarah an easy question. Is North Dakota north or south of South Dakota? This is not an open book and you have only one answer. I will give you a clue. The names of the states are revlevant. You have 30 MINUTES.

All gaffes considered I’d put the Gallup 9/20 daily at O-man plus 6 Saturday, plus 7 on Sunday.
With all the new material the worst Obama does at the first debate is a draw.
With Palin’s statements today re: “partisan Democrats” to blame for quashing her pro-Israel rally appearance (I guess she thinks democrats hate jews) and thereby accusing dems of ignoring Israel’s supposed exposure to a “second Holocaust (umm doesn’t Israel have 100+ nukes which kind of distinguishes this “threat” from slaughtering unarmed civilians) a game changer), it is obvious she will not be able to digest the What’s Happening In the World” Cliff Notes she was given two weeks ago. So, it seems pretty likely Biden, and the moderator, will dust her at the second debate.
TiVos on from here on out. I want to see McCain’s “Country Last” pander VP pick blow up in his face, over and over again.

Well, if Palin cannot even take on the “liberal, biased media”, and does not want to do interviews with them, because she is not treated with “respect and deference”, how is SHE going to deal with Ahmadinejad, Putin or Chavez who will be even less charitable?
You know, I think the reason why it seems that the media may like Obama more is because he’s friendlier and an easy person to talk to, and he didn’t call down fire and brimstone on reporters when the Rev. Wright thing exploded, and instead went up front to give a speech about it. Unlike Palin who prefers to play victim and dissed the media.
They now only have themselves to blame if the media’s not on their side.
Look at Cheney, he had to go to Georgia. A VP’s roles are now greatly expanded and not just ceremonial.
And Palin doesn’t even know that it was Georgia who started the Ossetian conflict, not Russia.

Tapper didn’t state the deceit and the damage done to Obama harshly enough. The right seized on Taheri’s central theme; delaying the withdrawal of our troops, instead of the true theme which is to urge a delay in negotiating a ‘Strategic Framework Agreement’.
Many in Congress fear that the agreement may lock America into obligations that Congress, the American people, and the new administration won’t be prepared to support. Most reasonable people believe it’s
an agreement that should be negotiated by the next administration.
The US has ‘Status of Forces’ agreements all over the world. That agreement or a new UN mandate would give us a legal basis to be in Iraq after December 31st of this year. I haven’t heard anyone argue that we don’t need that issue resolved before the end of the year. The more treaty-like agreement (strategic
framework) should be delayed. Agree or not, that’s the issue that Taheri distorted by stating that Obama tried to stall troop withdrawals.
The damage has already been done. The right seized Taheri’s story and ran with it. Rush Limbaugh distorted the story even further calling Obama’s position treasonous. Congress has held numerous hearings on the subject and many have come to the same conclusion as Obama and are urging the administration to delay the ‘Strategic Framework Agreement (not withdrawals). According to Limbaugh’s reasoning, they must all be treasonous.
The Limbaugh distortion is obvious on it’s face. His transcript of one of the Zebari quotes in this article reads: “He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement on US troop withdrawal until after
the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington.” It’s amazing how adding a few little words to the quote can change the meaning.
Limbaugh and others who picked up the story are willing to have their readers believe that Obama is telling his supporters that he’ll get the troops home while secretly urging the Iraqi’s to “hold them”. They’re calling Obama a hypocrite and call his actions treasonous. Understanding the issue as an oversight function and presenting a reasoned position as a Presidential candidate is hardly treasonous.
Only one of three conclusions is possible regarding McCain’s response. Either he is content to allow the American people to believe the smear, he has not educated himself about the issue (including the hearings), or he’s content to let Bush make Iraq decisions for him if he wins the election. I think his position
demands an explanation.

11. Everyone you need to look this up.
Keating 5 and the S&L Crisis. This was the worst economic crisis since the depression. Guess who was right in the scandal involving senators influencing government agencies to protect the CEOs of the S&Ls that were stealing America blind.
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Lets not forget the Keeting 5 were:
The five senators, Alan Cranston (D-CA), Dennis DeConcini (D-AZ), John Glenn (D-OH), John McCain (R-AZ), and Donald W. Riegle (D-MI), were accused of improperly aiding Charles H. Keating, Jr., chairman of the failed Lincoln Savings and Loan
After a lengthy investigation, the Senate Ethics Committee determined in 1991 that Alan Cranston, Dennis DeConcini, and Donald Riegle had substantially and improperly interfered with the FHLBB in its investigation of Lincoln Savings. Senators John Glenn and John McCain were cleared of having acted improperly but were criticized for having exercised “poor judgment”.
The Senate Ethics Committee ruled that the involvement of Glenn in the scheme was minimal, and the charges against him were dropped.[24] He was only criticized by the Committee for “poor judgment.”[27]
The Ethics Committee ruled that the involvement of McCain in the scheme was also minimal, and he too was cleared of all charges against him.[25][24] McCain was criticized by the Committee for exercising “poor judgment” when he met with the federal regulators on Keating’s behalf.[6] The report also said that McCain’s “actions were not improper nor attended with gross negligence and did not reach the level of requiring institutional action against him….Senator McCain has violated no law of the United States or specific Rule of the United States Senate

Everyone, don’t forget to register to vote before OCT 1st. Do early voting and show the world what we can do!!!!!!!

So it is official? The Washington Post is no longer a credible source, yes?
Posted by: Vile Pliskin | Sep 19, 2008 9:17:28 PM
New York Post… NOT Washington Post… big difference… no comparison!!!

Sen. Chuck Hagel why didn’t you run fur President? You’re the real person of honor!! – and I say that as a Democrat
Please serve as Secretary of State for President Obama

McCain is a liar, is VP pick is a liar and his campaign is replete with liars. Why in the world would they bother to find out the truth?? I mean, the truth really doesn’t help the lying, does it?

why and how is it that dishonest, corrupt people with not even the slightest moral values and common sense, who live in the past, can even run for high offices, mcvain and mcvain terrify us all because if their worthless values are the role model all young people in this country follow, you might as well kiss america goodby for good. Good heavens, sen. obama’s running mates wife, Jill Biden is more educated and moral and honest than either mccain and palin. I vote obama/biden 08, but even if i did not believe i them, i would NEVER vote for the total destruction of america which affects my grown children and their children and their children, and if i voted for mcvain and mcvain, that is exactly what i believe will happen. They are both liars and they do not even respect laws made for the protection of this country.

i’m 20 and i don’t plan on voting now or ever. there is no point in voting when in the end everyone gets screwed no matter who gets picked as the president. politics are shady, down right dirty, and has no truth behind anything. all i see is news about barack obama and how great he is. why not hear more about the shady past? considering the media feels the need to put mcain/palin under a bus every day. what happened to unbiased media? oh wait there never was unbiased media. all i hear is obama this obama that. you hardly hear about mcain/palin unless it’s negative. you never hear the real negatives about obama. why? people want to paint him as this saint who will change america. he promises change but seems like we hear that every election and there is still NO change so why should obama be any different? i’m tired about hearing how he will be the 1st blck president if elected. i have nothing against blacks… but my black friends hate him because he’s being painted as a full black when he isn’t. one friend told me that she doesn’t understand why he’s considered black when he’s half white. she said if obama looked whiter and didn’t look as black as he does people wouldn’t be making a big thing about him being black. race is being an issue in this presidential election when it really shouldn’t just like age shouldn’t be a huge factor either. so what if mcain is 72? so what if obama is half black? these things don’t matter. the facts matter, the issues matter. i don’t hear anyone talking issues. i don’t hear anyone talking about russia and venezuala. i don’t hear anything substantial coming from anyone except mcain. he wants to help the economy, obama wants to raise taxes in a time of crisis. tell me how is that going to help anything? at the end of the day what would he accomplish? people work hard in this country, why should we be taxed heavily for giving back to our country? why give government more of our money we worked for? why should health care be so expensive average americans can’t afford? i went to several health care providers and was quoted $300.00 per month. i can barely afford the bills, food, and gas that there is no money for health care. gas is still $4 a gallon and the price per barrel is going down. us americans will not see a drop in prices for months! by the time prices begin to change the price per barrel will be on the rise all over again and we will be stuck paying $5 per gallon. we need off shore drilling, solar, wind, bio fuels, electric cars, natural gas. we need cheaper alternatives to oil. we need an economic boot, we need cheaper health care, and more money for our schools so our children of tomorrow can learn and be successful. we need a president who knows what they’re doing, someone who will change america for the better and ot for the worse, someone who is experienced, someone who knows forgeign policies, who know what to do if america was attacked. obama wouldn’t know what to do if the answer was staring at him in the face. he can have all of his stupid advisors, and political garbage. if i was voting i can say i’m leaning towards mccain/palin.

Yaaaaay…….redgirl..i pray that your comments wake millions up for the sake of all of us, not just are grown children and grandchildren, but to preserve what is left of america and our rights as americans, i am for obama and biden as they at least represent some hope.

When the truth is discovered and you choose to believe the lie, that’s called stupid. When you choose to vote for McCain/Palin, both liars (and she is highly unqualified) and you know that chose will more than likely cause further damage to your future, in southern terms, that’s called cutting off your nose to spite your face!

The republicans in the room have to side with Obama’s version of the story or they would be in hot water. Zebari has no reason to create this story. If Obama is telling the truth (lol) then why when he released his statement did it sound a lot like a smoke and glass version of Zebari. I agree let Obama call Zebari a liar to his face. Regardless of all facts Obama should not have had any discussions in Iraq while running for President. His agenda is a conflict of interest with that of our President. This will send the wrong message to leaders of all nations.

no excuse for mccain not having enough intelligence to learn computer. …i know a man in his later 40′s who is totally blind, does not type, uses verbal clues and instructions, and with windows vista, can talk into microphone, dictate, etc, he even has his own website, …he is not exceptional, ..he just has a functioning brain, like most of us….i was 60 something before i started learning, and i know how to install operating systems, sound, etc, because of having all operating systems from win,95,98,98Se , windows xp, windows millenium, windows vista, and other, and i am just a retired grandma, who did not want her grandchildren, who learn in grade school how to use computer, to be smarter and more proficient than their grandma, and i wanted to be able to talk to them when they told me which site to go to in order to learn something or a new game to play,…..so the only reason mcvain has in not knowing how to do the computer is…laziness,inability to concentrate,…or cannot remember things long enough to learn. sorry, but that is the truth, and in this day and age computer knowledge is paramount to research and keeping up with what is happening all over the world.

Dont you guys feel sick when you see McCain?

1. Chuck Hegel is not a source to anything. He is a treator.
2The whole argument is simply disgusting. Everybody is talking about a meeting with Maliki, Hegel and many toher persons. The NT Post article IS NOT ABOUT THAT MEETING AN dthat foreig minster gave the info to the NY Post journalist. Who has absolutely no reason toimagine a discussion described.
I have no doubt that the article is correct, and that Obama is committed a criminal act by saying what he sayd.
It is as simple as that. The rest is just misinformation, falsification and cover-up a criminal act.

Zebari’s quote: “He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington.”
Limbaugh’s representation of Zebari’s quote: “He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement on US troop withdrawal until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington.”
Aren’t you tired of being spun? See my earlier entry about why those few words matter.

Chuck Hagel and his WIFE have MADE
political DONATIONS To OBAMA !!!!!
HAGEL IS AN UNPAID ADVISOR and has already openly supported the Messiah !!
Good Grief is the OBAMA MEDIA operates at ABC getting this desperate ?? I love that LIE about “Other unnamed sources ” in the Bush administration.
McCain and Palin are going to win despite this UNREAL NON STOP Propaganda peddled by the Obama Media !

I believe Tehari’s article read both and Obama’s rebuttal in Tehari’s subsequent piece and the truth is clear. All those present are simply lying to Bush and the American people so that they can not be charged with treason. Furthermore, I no longer will believe ABC, the network which edits and poorly pieces together interviews in order to make female VP candidates seem incompetent. I also have no respect for their journalists, with the exception of Diane Sawyer or George Steph, the rest are a useless bunch of Obamabots. Gibson, you suck.

Nick,
I’m 30, I make about 50K a year and I support Obama, and I will tell you why.
First of all, you are right, it seems that politics have become a circus.
But you have to look beyond that and all the stuff the media put before your eyes. If you want answers and you want to be able to vote smartly, do your own research, don’t just listen to what people tell you. Before I supported Obama, I researched his past, what people who knew him in a professional capacity thought of him. I read the books he wrote to see what he actually said in there instead of taking the bits offered on TV, without any prejudice or passion. And guess what, turns out the guy is actually as smart as they come, very thoughtful of his peers, competitive on the basketball court, and someone who will listen to what everybody has to say in a debate, not just impose his own opinion. He is far from perfect, but from where I’m standing, he’s the best in the linenup. That behavior runs from the days when he was a professor of law. All that crap about elitism, guns, his color, flag pins that the press and republican ads push are distraction. What matters is where are we now and who can actually pull us out from there. McCain admitted he doesn’t know as much as he should about the economy, and he tends to be unpredictable. He seems to be a cool guy, but that doesn’t cut it. Also, his economic plan is weak and certainly won’t fix the economy. His bragging about the surge he’s backed up working is BS. It worked because of ethnic cleansing in the region, and people being tired of getting in the crossfire between US soldiers and terrorist from other countries who came in and don’t care about collateral damage. If anything it was luck that made it work, more than the number of troops. I think Obama is right to try to get us out of Iraq ASAP, Iraq was a mess up by the Bush administration, when some fools in the white house decided that they would built facts around the policy making up for a weak casus belli (case for war).
As for voting, it’s a privilege that some other countries dream on. Don’t waste it. That’s what validates you as a citizen. That what makes sure you can’t be taken for granted by the powers that be. Don’t let that right go because you are disenchanted, it’s a mistake. Even if you are going to vote for McCain/Palin, go ahead, exercise your civic rights. You vote based on who you think will make your life and the life of your peers better. Not who looks good, who claims what. The only way you’ll vote right, and the only way things will change is if you get actively involved, not just complain about the status quo. Do your research on the candidates and support the ones you want.

Only ten days ago, a statement by Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari was quoted in the pan-Arab daily Asharq al-Awsat. Zebari himself said this about Barack Obama:
=== This question he asked me (Barak Obama) when I was in Washington some time ago I met with McCain and with Obama and Obama asked me why you urgency in signing this agreement, especially with the approaching change in the American administration and why not wait until the advent of the new administration next year even signed an agreement with A new administration and we agree on some issues and matters and the answer is with Obama, including: Iraq, I think that even if there was a democratic administration in the White House, it is better to have a policy instead of thinking exists in the file for a long time to be resolved including the nettle that the Convention are not binding The next administration be comfortable in dealing with the Iraqi people rather than the start of the crisis and their problems and seek solutions. ===

You wrote that Obama campaign national security spokesperson Wendy Morigi stated “Barack Obama has never urged a delay in negotiations.”
But on June 16, 2008 2:22 PM, NBC’s Domenico Montanaro reported that Obama did indeed urge a delay in negotiations. You can read it for yourself

I think mcCain and Palin are just nervous that Obama has already talked with American allies. mcCains lobbist see a loss of their personal foreign bank accounts, and may have to invest in America, when Obama wins. McCain has almost picked a fight with our Ally Spain. At least the spanish newspapers understands, ‘he is getting old’. Ouch.
Even Palins ‘shoot first’, idea is being talked about in other countries. Duck Tape, please.

If this were reversed and a republican nominee had gone against a sitting democrat president in this manner, there would be no end to the howling of the mainstream media. I believe that the mainstream media has become truly dangerous to the country and I thank you, Mr. Tapper, for not toeing their line.

Obama: Married to 1 woman for 19 years. 2 sweet kids. 1 car. 1 house. 3 yrs as director of Developing Communities Project. 10+ yrs Senior Lecturer of Constitutional Law (U. of Chicago), Columbia U. grad (poli sci/int’l relations), Harvard Law magna c.um laude and Editor of the Harvard Law Review. 9 yrs as civil rights atty. Senator in 5th largest state for 8 yrs, spnsring 823 bills, srvng as chrmn Health&Human Svcs Cmtee. US Senator since ’05, serving on cmtees: Foreign Relations; Enviro&Public Works, Vets’ Affairs; Health, Ed, Labor&Pensions; Homeland Security; Gvnmntl Affairs. Chrmn of subcmtee on Euro.Affairs, w/trips to Europe, MidEast, Africa. Spnsrd/cospnsrd hundreds of bills.

Let’s look at part of the article. “According to Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari”, Obama made his demand for delay a key theme of his discussions with Iraqi leaders in Baghdad in July.
“He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington,” Zebari said in an interview.
Obama insisted that Congress should be involved in negotiations on the status of US troops – and that it was in the interests of both sides not to have an agreement negotiated by the Bush administration in its “state of weakness and political confusion.”
According to being the most important part of this article. This was a second hand account of a conversation between a group of people. Three of the individuals in the room back Obama’s version and one individual gives an account to a reporter and he in turn writes a story.
People, in addition to Obama and Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, this July meeting was attended by Bush administration officials, such as U.S. Ambassador to Iraq Ryan Crocker and the Baghdad embassy’s legislative affairs advisor Rich Haughton, as well as a Republican senator, Chuck Hagel of Nebraska.
Hagel is a honorable man along with our Ambassador and there is no evidence to repudiate this.
Even if you don’t like Obama, come on, you have to believe those folks. So stop the nonsense!
PS: For the record, I am a Republican!

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You guys are hilarious. All of you. I have read many of these comments, and none of them have convinced me to change my vote.