Was It Smart for Obama to Forgo Public Financing?
As the Republican convention ended last week, Bloomberg News reported that Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., was heading into the homestretch with $200 million.
The last Federal Election Commission report showed Obama with about $65 million cash on hand.
"Democrats never have a big money advantage over the Republicans," Obama senior adviser David Axelrod told me. "And between the Republican National Committee, the McCain campaign and the 527′s, which are spending milions of doallars — the old Swift Boat crowd — trying to beat us, McCain has enormous resources."
So, was it a mistake for Obama to forego public financing?
"No matter what configuration you get into, when you are running against the Republican Party, you are running against a lot of money," Axelrod said.
The New York Times takes a look at Obama fundraising, and some concern among fundraisers.
"The signs of concern have become evident in recent weeks as early fundraising totals have suggested that Mr. Obama’s decision to bypass public financing may not necessarily afford him the commanding financing advantage over Sen. John McCain that many had originally predicted," the NYT’s Michael Luo and Jeff Zeleny write.
"It is not yet clear whether the Obama campaign will be able to ratchet up its fundraising enough in the final two months of the campaign to make up the difference."
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Posted by: herta | September 9, 2008, 7:22 am 7:22 am
No it was not. Not only did he go against his word but he is making his supporters pay for his campaign. Another example of poor judgment on Obama’s part.
I’m so excited about Palin/McCain!
-Democrat
Posted by: Edwin | September 9, 2008, 7:23 am 7:23 am
herta,
It wasn’t courageous, it was greedy. Plus he went back on his word after he said he would take public financing. Not good. If you can’t trust someone on their word then they are worth nothing.
Democrat for Palin-McCain 2008
Posted by: samUVA | September 9, 2008, 7:28 am 7:28 am
It’s a sad commentary to think that one must buy his way into getting elected. I can only hope and pray that people will put party aside and vote for the individuals who will not reward their wealthy campaign contributors with tax breaks and programs designed to keep them rich, thus perpetuating another four more years of the same…Vote Obama and Biden who really care about the majority of Americans who are losing their homes and cannot afford healthcare. We have had enough of the Republican party bringing our country down, both nationally and internationally.
Posted by: VITAL2U | September 9, 2008, 7:30 am 7:30 am
Today’s gallup: McCain 49 – Obama: 44
John McCain’s bounce in voter support spanning the Republican National Convention is largely explained by political independents, who are shifting to him in fairly big numbers, from 40% pre-convention to 52% post-convention.
I love McCain & Palin – Change we will vote for
Posted by: mikeWill | September 9, 2008, 7:31 am 7:31 am
Palin’s church, the Wasilla Bible Church, gave its pulpit over to a figure viewed with deep hostility by many Jewish organizations: David Brickner, the executive director of Jews for Jesus.
Brickner described terrorist attacks on Israelis as God’s “judgment of unbelief” of Jews who haven’t embraced Christianity.
“Judgment is very real and we see it played out on the pages of the newspapers and on the television. It’s very real. When [Brickner's son] was in Jerusalem he was there to witness some of that judgment, some of that conflict, when a Palestinian from East Jerusalem took a bulldozer and went plowing through a score of cars, killing numbers of people. Judgment — you can’t miss it.”
Palin was in church that day, according to Palin’s pastor, Larry Kroon.
Shame on Sarah Palin for not standing up against the anti-semite ‘Jew’ Brickner.
She already lost a LOT of Jewish votes.
Posted by: ruben | September 9, 2008, 7:31 am 7:31 am
A dumb move, but what can you expect from someone with Zero experience? He listened to his handlers and it will cost him the election. Bad for him but good for the country.
A FORMER DEMOCRAT.
Posted by: Norm Stephenson | September 9, 2008, 7:34 am 7:34 am
Yes it was smart. He needed more money as he was introduced to the public and he got it. Money well-spent. Besides, the people that need Obama as our President the most don’t have a lot of money.
Thank you, Jake, for reminding me that I need to make another contribution to the Obama campaign!
Obama 08! Eight is enough!!
Posted by: Common Sense | September 9, 2008, 7:41 am 7:41 am
Obama wanted to buy the election, and the star of the campaign was going to be Obama, which is why he failed to act when Clinton offered her services and refused to share the stage. He didn’t want the election to be about winning over Bush, but wanted it to be about Obama. Well, he got his wish!?
Everybody in the media loved to say what terrible campaigns Clinton and McCain ran, even if they are winning. The only thing wrong with the Obama campaign it seems is the candidate himself.
Posted by: Sylvia Johnsen | September 9, 2008, 7:41 am 7:41 am
I don’t think that the democrats should bring up Palin’s church, it will only refuel question of Obama’s relationship with Rev Wright and that is not a good path to go down. The election is between McCain and Obama, attacking Palin is a red herring and will only bring more people out to support her if they feel she is being mistreated.
Posted by: Kardasia_Prime | September 9, 2008, 7:44 am 7:44 am
Just another lie by Obama and it is backfiring on him. He consistently shows bad judgement. McCain/Palin is change you can trust.
Posted by: Lori | September 9, 2008, 7:45 am 7:45 am
I’ve had enough of the lies and just cannot take it anymore. So, I swallowed hard and gave money to Obama today. I strongly encourage those like me to consider doing the same. Who is John McCain anymore except a pile of contradictions? You may rue his experience, but at least Barack has remained true to his ideals. We’ll take the White House back in four years!!!
Posted by: Tired Republican | September 9, 2008, 7:45 am 7:45 am
The Orwellian DNC Animal Farm that calls itself a united political party is failing.
Justice is prevailing and Obama is down in the polls.
I voted for Hillary and I am now voting for McCain. Many others are following suit by the thousands.
Like someone said in an earlier post, the DNC is a trainwreck.
Just wait until the end of September. You thought ten point gain by McCain was bad. The Obamabots will spread kool aid and lies with a vengeance. The Obama campaign is unraveling before our very eyes. The pretty ribbon and packaging and speeches are all unraveling to reveal the DNC’s gift to America- an empty suit.
My question to the Obamabots:
You maligned Hillary Clinton and used race baiting witch hunts to advance Saint Obama as your nominee but how did you expect the DNC advance to the next game when you had so many dead teammates on the field after the primaries?
Posted by: Samantha | September 9, 2008, 7:47 am 7:47 am
It was courageous? True to the ideals of our democracy? Lying again is “our” democracy?? How in the world is that courageous? It’s called being a F”N liar!
Please watch the interview with O’Reilly! He want’s to make this country a socialist country!
McCcain08!
Posted by: Justme8811 | September 9, 2008, 7:48 am 7:48 am
“Junkie. Pothead. That’s where I’d been headed: the final, fatal role of the young would-be black man. Except the highs hadn’t been about that, me trying to prove what a down brother I was. Not by then, anyway. I got high for just the opposite effect, something that could push questions of who I was out of my mind, something that could flatten out the landscape of my heart, blur the edges of my memory. I had discovered that it didn’t make any difference whether you smoked reefer in the white classmate’s sparkling new van, or in the dorm room of some brother you’d met down at the gym, or on the beach with a couple of Hawaiian kids who had dropped out of school and now spent most of their time looking for an excuse to brawl. …You might just be bored, or alone. Everybody was welcome into the club of disaffection.”
– Barack Obama
Posted by: Samantha | September 9, 2008, 7:49 am 7:49 am
If Obama is not elected Nancy Pelosi will be OUT. That’s enough for me to vote for McCain. Just say no pelosi!
Posted by: FLvoter | September 9, 2008, 7:49 am 7:49 am
As a non american I hope to see the end of this lie telling democrat OBAMA
Posted by: Jeanne-pierre | September 9, 2008, 7:53 am 7:53 am
As a Republican I will now VOTE for Obama. I’m disgusted by all the LIES from McCain and Palin. Everyday I hear more and more are running away from the Republicans. Of couse this is from people on the street not the MEDIA who run with McCain’s LIES without asking questions. It is GOD’s will that LIEARS shall be punished!
Posted by: NoCain | September 9, 2008, 7:58 am 7:58 am
“In the 21st century, white America got a wake-up call after 9/11/01. White America and the western world came to realize that people of color had not gone away, faded into the woodwork or just ‘disappeared’ as the Great White West kept on its merry way of ignoring black concerns.”
– Jeremiah Wright
The statement was made by a man who church Obama sat in for 20 years and Obama claimed was his mentor.
My question to the DNC:
DNC, who are you? I don’t recognize you anymore. Why have you become everything that you used to stand against?
For the first time in my life I will vote for a Republican – John McCain.
I may come back when you nominate a credible candidate (like Hillary Clinton) and clean up the stench of donkey poo from your farce Animal Farm party.
Posted by: Samantha | September 9, 2008, 8:01 am 8:01 am
McCain was once someone to look up to, a true “maverick” as everyone likes to say, but what really remains of that man when you compare him to the man running for President today? I’d gladly vote for the 2000 candidate, but version 2008 is so beholden to the extreme wing of our party that I don’t see how I could vote for him. He’s nothing more than a fake. Straight-talking? Not if it’s all lies. That’s why I finally decided I’d rather have Obama and why I finally, as I posted earlier, gave him some money today. I’d rather see us lose, so we can purge the idealogues and go back to conservatism we can believe in!
Posted by: Tired Republican | September 9, 2008, 8:02 am 8:02 am
Just another lie by McCain and it is backfiring on him. He consistently shows bad judgement. Obama/Biden is change you can trust.
Posted by: Sarah | September 9, 2008, 8:02 am 8:02 am
This is just one more time that his ego got into the way of a decision. Forgot about the fact he originally said he would take it. Someone mentioned his morals? What morals does he have? He changes positions on everything like the wind. He admits his only experience leading something in his entire life is running his campaign. Let me point out a few facts here:
If you have a gov’t that does all the below, then what do you have?
regulate free speech
citizens not allowed to own weapons
tell citizens what health care they will use
tell citizens what they can/cannot eat
tax country to create 2 classes: rich/poor
eliminate all motivation for success, more success=higher taxes
Sounds like socialism/communism to me. But I’m just a middle class blue collar worker that isn’t fully educated yet.
Posted by: craig | September 9, 2008, 8:06 am 8:06 am
Axelrod and Nobama are now trying to blame McCain and those dastardly rich Republicans for their flip flop on campaign financing. How absurd!
“they’re just like Bush, they’re just like Bush”! Let’s talk change, no more Nobama!
Posted by: Chris | September 9, 2008, 8:08 am 8:08 am
Sarah,
What is the lie? Didn’t OB say he would take public financing and then lied yet again and went against that? How in the world can you trust this man yet alone support him? He is not Presidential material in any way! No experience at all at any level. Just a BS’er.
Posted by: Justme8811 | September 9, 2008, 8:12 am 8:12 am
THIS IS A LIE,,,THE MCCAIN CAMP HAS ONLY RAISED 6 MIL SINCE PALINS SPEECH.THE OBAMA CAMP DID 10 MILLION IN A WEEK.THEY FAIL TO FORGOT OBAMAS POCKETS ARE STACKING UP STILL BECAUSE PALINS PICK HAS ENERGIZED THE DEMOCRATIC BASE CONTRIBUTIONS
Posted by: jr | September 9, 2008, 8:13 am 8:13 am
Obama assumed that all the Hillary Clinton big donors would go his way but some of them including Donald Trump and John Coale have donated to McCain, some of her supporters have donated to him and some are just holding back to see what happens. He just had a fundraiser with Bon Jovi and I’m sure a lot of big names in Hollywood like Oprah will fundraise for him, he’ll be fine
Posted by: Kardasia_Prime | September 9, 2008, 8:16 am 8:16 am
Wow! Many of the comments above are filled with such venom that it makes your stomach turn. I for one make over 500k a year and I’m willing to accept higher taxes to help the poor. What happened to the proverb of the old lady giving her last penny to Jesus? She gave everything she had, while the rich comparatively gave more but only a fraction of their wealth. It is a biblical principal to give to others and to help others. Yes, I worked my ass off to get where I am. Yes, a part of me does resent giving more in taxes to support those who don’t have the same work ethic that I do. Yes, we have a bloated government that doesn’t wisely spend the more money I will fork over. Despite all this, I am still willing to SACRIFICE for America. I am not looking for a president to cut taxes (I majored in finance/economic and I understand the unproven principal that if you cut taxes it stimulates the economy). I am looking for Americans to stop being selfish and to start sacrificing to make America great again.
Who wants an unpredictable president (i.e. Bush) who scoffs diplomacy and instead waves his big stick? It is time for America to take the log out of its own eye before we try to take the splinter out of someone else’s. Let’s focus on America! Let’s invest massive amounts of money in alternative energy, in education, in science and technology. Let’s invest money in an educated, passionate committee that will show us how best to invest our money. Screw being the world leader for now. Screw helping other nations. Let’s pay off America’s debt and lead by example!
I trust Obama to do this more than McCain.
Posted by: Ben | September 9, 2008, 8:17 am 8:17 am
WAIT!…I meant I am voting 100% Republican…..
Michele Obama “Yeah..what he really meant…he’s voting Republican”
Posted by: JWx2 | September 9, 2008, 8:18 am 8:18 am
JR – what are you a government auditor? If not then you don’t know what you’re talking about. You don’t know this is a lie, so why throw that out? Stick with outing the real proven lies, like the Iraqi war caused by Republican propaganda that has ruined America’s economy and reputation.
Posted by: Bob | September 9, 2008, 8:19 am 8:19 am
Its not just money its who controls the first Palin interview!
Some of us are concerned that the Palin interview will be on Schmit’s turf where he can control the environment! Charlie Gibson’s questions might get lost in the 2 day beautiful environment? A serious interview is at George Stephanopoulos’s Table where all the other candidates have done interviews for Years.
Posted by: Liz | September 9, 2008, 8:19 am 8:19 am
Axelrod and Nobama are now trying to blame McCain and those dastardly rich Republicans for their flip flop on campaign financing. How absurd!Posted by: Chris | Sep 9, 2008 8:08:44 AM
How do you get that bs out of that article. He is basically saying the special interest money the Republicans get is far greater than what Obama is receiving from his donors.
Posted by: J | September 9, 2008, 8:20 am 8:20 am
Is this another Carl Rove politics? The choice is really easy: “if you want $4.00 or $5.00 per gallon gasoline? You can vote for McCain & Palin”
“if McCain & Palin send you to another war and she believes this is God task? You can vote for McCain & Palin”
“if you want to lose your house and jobs? You can vote for McCain & Palin”
“if you do not need affordable health insurance? You can vote for McCain & Palin”
“if you ended up in the big stadium for days without help from govt? You can vote for McCain & Palin”
“if you want a failed govt that are really corrupt and lied all the time? You can vote for McCain & Palin”
Posted by: Jason McClintock | September 9, 2008, 8:20 am 8:20 am
How can anyone be saying that the McCain campaign lied about any of this??
Obama is the one that first said he would accept public financing and then did his 180-turn and said no, he wouldn’t.
How they’re crying because the money iisn’t coming in like it once was??
Hypocrites and crybabies. I have never seen anything like it…………..
Posted by: Lee | September 9, 2008, 8:20 am 8:20 am
Ben – was the over 500 K peso’s you were referring to?
Posted by: ComeonBen | September 9, 2008, 8:20 am 8:20 am
So these Blogs are such a great read every one the voted Republican is now a Democrat and tose that are Democratic are now Republican. I read a blog on Google Chrome that talked about Sarah Palin and how people should leave her alone. It make me wonder if there is a typed script party delegates are paid to place into print.
The american people get duped every 4 years into believing that there man will stand up for there ideals, only to realize they have been lied to again. If voting changed anything they would make it illegal.
Posted by: Robert Johnson | September 9, 2008, 8:20 am 8:20 am
Looks like Obama breaking his promise in order to get more money didn’t work out.
Posted by: Jon Do | September 9, 2008, 8:22 am 8:22 am
Cheaters never win.
Posted by: Tony | September 9, 2008, 8:23 am 8:23 am
McCain and Palin have the better experience and qualifications. McCain/Palin’s loyalty is undivided. We are sure of their loyalty to the US; Indonesians and Kenyans don’t claim they are citizens of those countries, too. McCain saluted the flag from Day 1, and hasn’t made it into a federal issue about wearing a flag pin, and he didn’t need to change the Federal seal into a likeness with his photo while on the campaign trail, like his DNC opponent. We know McCain/Palin are Christian, and the DNC nominee attended a church with Rev Wright for 20 years, which with Rev Wright’s weekly hostile disparaging racist sermons was a far cry from love thy neighbor as thyself principles. We have heard alot about corrupt Chicago politics and from the connections identified with the DNC candidate so far, it appears that he is welcomed and right at home with his corrupt Chicago cronies. Not so McCain, who was earlier praised by his DNC and RNC colleagues for working across party lines and unifying the parties on issues and solutions. Together, McCain/Palin can bring reform and change Washington for prosperity and peace. McCain is not running on a platform to redistribute wealth thru taxes. With the DNC’s plan, those nearing retirement will be hardest hit with the increased taxes, but most earning $40,000 and above are expected to will feel the tax increase impact of the DNC candidate. McCain/Palin will bring continued security to America, along with reforms.
Posted by: Jorge | September 9, 2008, 8:25 am 8:25 am
Posted by: Jason McClintock | Sep 9, 2008 8:20:32 AM
You are so right.
Posted by: J | September 9, 2008, 8:27 am 8:27 am
It’s fun watching Obama deconstructing. Only 10 days ago, when he thinks he’s invincible. McCain’s pick of Palin is excellent, which steals the show. Palin trumps Obama every which way, except perhaps (1) Obama is black, (2) Obama votes 97% of the time versus 90% of McCain’s, (3) Obama is all hot air and no accomplishment to show for.
Obama thinks he’s so smart in ditching public financing, reneg on a pledge that he’s all too ready to dump whenever it is convenient or suits his needs. Obama thinks he’s the only one who can fire up people and gives big rally speech. Granted, surely Palin will come back down to earth one day, but 2 months of excitement is enough to fire up the conservatives to get out to vote. With Obama, he’s now flamed out after 1.5 years. Obama is poster boy no more.
Posted by: Shane S. | September 9, 2008, 8:27 am 8:27 am
Michelle Obama made the following statement:
“Barack is one of the smartest people you will ever encounter who will deign to enter this messy thing called politics.”
The definition of deign is:
condescend: do something that one considers to be below one’s dignity
Wow Michelle Obama, thanks for giving us lowly Americans the gift of Saint Obama.
Posted by: Samantha | September 9, 2008, 8:27 am 8:27 am
JWx2 – you say you make over 500K per year and are willing to accept increased taxes to help the poor.
My question for you is, why wait for the government to do it?
Why not just give to charities? You can pick and choose the ones doing work you care about and that are doing it most efficiently.
Posted by: David | September 9, 2008, 8:29 am 8:29 am
Samantha, you make up great fake quotes. I wonder what else about you is fake as well!
Posted by: DG | September 9, 2008, 8:29 am 8:29 am
If you want lower taxes, you may want to read about Senate Bill 2433 (S.2233), that donates 0.7% of our GDP directly to the UN.
Estimated to cost US taxpayers $845 BILLION, you can read about it on Obama’s web site.
Posted by: munroej | September 9, 2008, 8:29 am 8:29 am
To the morons saying Mac is lying….um, they have to file FEC papers. Also – it’s doubly important in Mac’s case because he is accepting public $$$.
Posted by: angry black democrat | September 9, 2008, 8:30 am 8:30 am
So true Lori. Someone mentioned George Stephanopoulos as an interview. Why do people want to hear only from the left wing? So biased. So many left wing newspapers and web sites are over the top! Yet that will only help McCain/Palin.
Keep attacking and they will prevail!
McCain/Palin08!
Posted by: Justme8811 | September 9, 2008, 8:30 am 8:30 am
Nice job by the Obama Campaign, getting this message out there. I just contributed at his website.
With all the Media reports about how well Obama was fundraising, I kinda took it for granted.
I used to be GOP, but really got tired of being played a fool. The GOP keeps winning elections, treating the electorate as dimwits. And judging by the Polls, and these blogs, lots of People are.
Obama needs to stop with his *but, Americans are too smart* thing. It’s obvious they’re not, as Polls show people prefer Obama on the economy, and on getting out of Iraq, yet, they’ll be voting for McCain.
The American people seem to be treating the election as a Reality Show.
Posted by: jon | September 9, 2008, 8:30 am 8:30 am
Obama is preparing Americans for what lies ahead. He has said (unlike McCain) that the road ahead is long and difficult. He isn’t promising a panacea or quick fix like McCain. He isn’t promising a painless process. What he is trying to do is wake up Americans from apathy. When is the last time that something that was worthwhile doing was easy? I want a candidate that can involve the American people in the process. I want a candidate that will tell the American people, straight up, that it will take time and sacrifice and make people realize that plight the nation is in and be willing to help it recover. I want a candidate who will let the world help itself for a while and drop the burden of policing the world on Europe (or whoever). I don’t want a candidate who thinks simple tax cuts might revive an American economy. Who doesn’t want to make Americans realize that it will take hard work on THEIR part to revitalize America. Who doesn’t want to spend American money on a war in Iraq, in protecting Georgia or intimidated Syria and Iran by having an insanely massive military. Who doesn’t plan for 50 years from now but only 10.
In short, I want Obama!
Posted by: Ana | September 9, 2008, 8:31 am 8:31 am
Pardon my haste. It is actually S.2433.
Posted by: munroej | September 9, 2008, 8:31 am 8:31 am
Ana – I don’t want a candidate who deceives people into thinking they are involved in anything except getting him elected. Therefore, I do not want Obama.
Posted by: angry black democrat | September 9, 2008, 8:33 am 8:33 am
© 2008 WorldNetDaily
Sen. Barack Obama, perhaps giving America a preview of priorities he would pursue if elected president, is rejoicing over the Senate committee passage of a plan that could end up costing taxpayers billions of dollars in an attempt to reduce poverty in other nations.
Obama bill: $845 billion more for global poverty
Democrat sponsors act OK’d by Senate panel that would cost 0.7% of gross national product
The bill, called the Global Poverty Act, is the type of legislation, “We can – and must – make … a priority,” said Obama, a co-sponsor.
Posted by: munroej | September 9, 2008, 8:34 am 8:34 am
Nothing Obama has done since he dumped Hillary as the VP choice has been smart. His speech was unenlightening, he’s whining like a baby, he thinks he’s so much better than everyone else, and he picked Joe Big-Mouth Biden as his VP.
When Obama didn’t pick Hillary, and then McCain picked Palin and beat him at his own game, the contest was over.
There are plenty of people like Obama that will promise the moon, but there are few who are people who get it done like McCain and Palin.
Go McCain / Palin 2008!!!
Posted by: Rich | September 9, 2008, 8:39 am 8:39 am
I had a dog with a better memory than those posting is response to this article. My dog wouldn’t remember I had left the room a minute ago and jumped up and wagged his tail each I came back in the room. That is what the republicans hope we are… dogs. So we can’t remember the total hosing they have performed on the county since they took over the executive and the congress. Don’t be a dog! Remember!
All this other crap is well, crap. The GOP IS special interest money. That is why they had money before they brought in the Ms. Palin. Speak MS. Palin. What does the VP do?
Obama/Biden ’08
Posted by: DR | September 9, 2008, 8:40 am 8:40 am
I’m not concerned about the Obama campaign’s finances. For all that the McCain supporters try to say Obama has “no executive experience,” if his campaign had been a company, Barack Obama the CEO would have been on the cover of every business magazine in the country. From nothing 2 years ago, the Obama campaign has successfully raised close to $400 million (most in donations of $200 or less), spent it wisely, managed a workforce of thousands, achieved stated goals, and beat its competition, all under the direct leadership of Barack Obama, even while he spent every day on the campaign trail. Show me another American enterprise that has been so phenomenally successful in that period.
By turning down the broken Federal funding system in favor of continued participation by real Americans and by rejecting lobbyist and PAC money, Obama is fulfilling the true intent of “public financing” of our campaigns. {ProfJonathan}
Posted by: ProfJonathan | September 9, 2008, 8:43 am 8:43 am
Whether it was smart or not to change his mind on funding has little to do with his campaign bank balance. The DNC candidate committed to accepting the public funding and then at the last minute changed his mind, going back on his word. It would have been smarter to delay his decision, rather than to reverse his decision in a few short months. If the RNC did this, no doubt the DNC would be all over them claiming deception and deceit; however the RNC kept their word. The DNC candidate has support by 527 groups running ads, Oprah, foreigners, and the DNC funds assisting by running ads, so it is not just his own account, but he has lots of alternate money resources. Does ABC count these type of articles to fundraise for the DNC on ABC’s nickel, as a contribution or goodwill? —A Former Democrat–
Posted by: Tommie | September 9, 2008, 8:44 am 8:44 am
i don’t know how people can stay use the words like integrity or judgment on obama, cuz this guy has none.
the consistency from obama is that, he doesn’t have any experience (attack on palin for not being ready? oh puulease), and he can’t keep his words. i don’t know how anyone would dream of voting obama for president.
the condescending tone of obama on palin is despicable. palin can fend for herself alright, and won’t need obama to tell others her family is “off limit.”
palin can bring women votes, independent votes, and most importantly, the conservative votes. and she’s a fresh face, with energy level overshadowing obama’s. she even claims the “change agent” mantle. i love it.
with mccain’s pick of palin, the choice of biden looks so very tired, predictable, and nothing of the “change” that obama has been pledging about. then again, pledge doesn’t mean a damn thing for obama the flip-flopper.
Posted by: maureen | September 9, 2008, 8:45 am 8:45 am
This article seems to make the case that Obama is under a fund raising disadvantage. Simple truth, is he has raised more and out spent the Republicans by a very large number.
He is not an underdog when it comes to funds. This article seem either biased towards democrats or at best very inaccurate.
Posted by: dougX | September 9, 2008, 8:45 am 8:45 am
This is just more proof of Obama’s total lack of judgement.
The left is kicking themselves now for nominating an empty suit. Every left leaning person in america looks like an idiot now.
Posted by: reason | September 9, 2008, 8:45 am 8:45 am
We have your back Obama! You can count on your small donors too! I have been giving every month since January and I will give to the end. I’m sure when people read the New York Times story, they will support you! I believe you made the right decision knowing that you wouldn’t take big money from lobbyists like McCain does!I think about the RNC and all I can think about is “dirty money”.
Posted by: mollygonz | September 9, 2008, 8:45 am 8:45 am
Oh, no! Obama in bed with a slum lord!?
Obama & Rezko: 18 Years of Chicago Politics
Posted by: Eniap Samoht | 04/04/2008 4:00 AM
With the Tony Rezko trial now under way, it is about time to delve into exactly who this guy is and what connection he has with Presidential candidate Barack Obama. You may not have known it, but these two have a friendship spanning nearly two decades, and it is my intent to dig a little deeper.
Antoin “Tony” Rezko and Barack Obama first met in 1990 through one of Rezko’s companies, Rezmar. Rezko had a knack for finding future political talent and investing in it early. Three years later in 1993, Obama took a job at the Chicago law firm Davis Miner Barnhill & Galland, which represented three community groups in partnership with Rezmar. Through them, and with Obama’s help, the law firm helped Rezko obtain over $43 million in government funds to ‘improve’ low-income apartments. Years later, in one of Chicago’s coldest winters in recent years, we would find out that a dozen different lawsuits came to light in which the City of Chicago had to force Rezmar to turn on heat for its tenants; some of them had gone over five weeks without heat of any kind. Also, more than half of Rezmar’s buildings went into foreclosure, and several had to be boarded up. It turned out Rezmar had done the work on the cheap, according to a former employee who wished to remain anonymous. Great use of government spending, eh?
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Posted by: munroej | September 9, 2008, 8:49 am 8:49 am
PROFJONATHON..I couldn’t have said it better myself! Thank you for an intelligent viewpoint!
Posted by: mollygonz | September 9, 2008, 8:49 am 8:49 am
BARACK OBAMA 2008* THE ONLY WAY WE’LL BE ABLE TO RECOVER FROM 8 YEARS OF THE REPUBLICANS TAKING OVER OUR COUNTRY! WE NEED OBAMA!
Posted by: OBAMA * 08 | September 9, 2008, 8:49 am 8:49 am
I just saw an ad the other day that said Bon Jovi raised 3 million dollars for the Obama campaign.
THAT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL!
What’s with these politicians? 500 Million dollars for the Obama campaign? Is that ridiculous or what? 82,000 people in a stadium? Wonder how much that cost to rent. All those people could have watched the speech on TV just the same.
Obama should have been contributing to charity after the 10 million dollar mark.
There are starving people out there. There are poor. There is cancer research to be done.
And here’s the pompous Obama, taking in money like he’s the next king or something.
There’s something wrong when a campaign of hype needs to spend 500 million dollars to try to get elected.
Vote for the simpleton, vote for the person who has a record of service, and most of all, vote for the person that takes ACTION, not the one that promises everything with no action to show for it.
Posted by: Marty | September 9, 2008, 8:50 am 8:50 am
Marty, great joke. You think that $200 million McCain has right now should go to charity as well?
Posted by: DG | September 9, 2008, 8:52 am 8:52 am
BARACK OBAMA 2008* THE ONLY WAY WE’LL BE ABLE TO RECOVER FROM 8 YEARS OF THE REPUBLICANS TAKING OVER OUR COUNTRY! WE NEED OBAMA!
Posted by: OBAMA * 08 | September 9, 2008, 8:52 am 8:52 am
MARTY..You are too funny! Why doesn’t McCain sell one of his houses and donate the money to charity?? Or Cindy McCain could sell her 280,000 dollar outfit that she wore to the RNC and donate the money to charity!! People are starving and she wears an outfit like that..
Posted by: mollygonz | September 9, 2008, 8:53 am 8:53 am
It’s not so much the financing that is the issue. Afterall, people blamed the same thing for Kerry’s downfall, but it’s little to do with that.
Dem is paralzed cuz they don’t know how to respond to Palin who trumps Obama/Clinton combined. And McCain beats Biden hands-down.
Posted by: Herbert | September 9, 2008, 8:53 am 8:53 am
***Posted by: DG
Michelle Obama made the following statement:
“Barack is one of the smartest people you will ever encounter who will deign to enter this messy thing called politics.”
The definition of deign is:
condescend: do something that one considers to be below one’s dignity
Wow Michelle Obama, thanks for giving us lowly Americans the gift of Saint Obama.***
Actually, you just don’t understand the comment, which you obviously took out of context.
Michelle wasn’t speaking of the American People, but of her family, and what a long political campaign does to a family. She went on to say, if he loses, neither she nor her kids would want to go through the punishment of a national campaign again.
I realize you probably read this on some blog, however, you were born with a brain. It might serve you better to think, rather than just post what others want you to think.
Posted by: jon | September 9, 2008, 8:54 am 8:54 am
mollygonz,
Please educate yourself on the charitable giving by the McCain and the Clintons relative to the Obamas. Your comment if unfortuneatly quite ignorant.
Posted by: geevill | September 9, 2008, 8:56 am 8:56 am
Obama passed up public financing and now his campaign is having buyers remorse. Spin it any way you want it’s all supposition. And as far as swift boating John Kerry the only person who supported Kerry’s version of events was John Kerry everybody who served with Kerry even the commander of his unit stated he was being liberal with the truth. Fact he was in Vietnam fact he fired wepons fact he submitted paperwork requesting a purple heart but the biggest fact was the commander of the mission rejected his original claim stating there was no enemy fire which is the prerequisit for a purple heart.
Posted by: JD | September 9, 2008, 8:57 am 8:57 am
All the right wing media have shown since the convention is McCain Palin and the coverage is slanted! Palin doesn’t even know what Fannie Mae is and the media ignores that. As a disabled veteran, I’m voting against McCain who collects $58,000 a year in disablilty while denying medical care to thousands of crippled veterans living and dying in the streets. Special interests and a corrupted media may buy this election for McCain, especially since Diebold and ESS count 80% of the votes, but they are destroying all that was good about America.
Posted by: ED | September 9, 2008, 8:57 am 8:57 am
marty: “Obama should have been contributing to charity after the 10 million dollar mark.
There are starving people out there. There are poor. There is cancer research to be done.
And here’s the pompous Obama, taking in money like he’s the next king or something.”
Interesting that the post is talking about MCCAIN’S lead in money to be ‘wasted’ on the election yet you are condemning Obama. Forgive me if I find your argument not at all compelling, but rather irrationally partisan.
Posted by: jhw539 | September 9, 2008, 8:59 am 8:59 am
Don’t think for a second that the Republicans have a monopoly on the special interest money. When Obama was leading in the polls, you can bet there was a lot of special interest money flowing his way. Also, historically, GOP money has by and large come from grass roots fund raising, whereas the DNC has been primarily funded from huge donations from the likes of George Soros and the Hollywood left.
Posted by: Conservative Thinker | September 9, 2008, 8:59 am 8:59 am
Obama: Pardon me, but we had a booming economy and the lowest unemployment rate in history until the Democrats took control of the Congress.
What’s wrong with 8 more years of the same is the Democrat Congress, not the Republican President.
Posted by: munroej | September 9, 2008, 8:59 am 8:59 am
Tony,
I am actively involved in my community. I engage as much as my firm allows me to in pro bono work (which is quite substantial, actually, for a NY firm). In the past, I devoted one summer to work for Habitat for Humanity and have spent weeks in Appalachia on community service projects that ran from teaching people to read, distributing food and fixing houses. I also selectively donate more than 20% of my income to charities that have a record of doing good. What have you done?
I’ve worked very, very hard in my life. It doesn’t take Obama to make me help the poor. That is a personal choice I made decades ago.
Stand up and talk? Ok. Republicans espouse fiscal conservatism but in the last eight years have been the biggest spenders. It’s OK to spend money (and, yes, many dems don’t seem to understand the concept of spending money WISELY), but spend it on America, not Iraq. Obama proposes a paltry 150 billion over 10 years for alternative energy, which is very generous compared to what Republicans propose. But this, to me, is unsatisfactory. Spend 10 billion a month (like Bush does in Iraq) on alternative energy. Form committees (not congressional ones!) that will focus on one task: education, the environment, energy, housing, welfare, tax, etc. Then, take the advice of those committees. No candidate is an expert on everything. Make each month about one issue and get the American people involved in these issues from the ground up. You can’t help people who do not help themselves. 50 years ago America was a powerhouse of a nation. We recruited the top talent and developed our own. It’s a sad fact that now this is not nearly as true as it was. We need to import more brains and invest in technology and education. It’s a long term investment but one that pays massive dividends. I know what I propose costs $$$, but I believe that Obama is smarter than McCain. I believe that when Obama is elected he’ll have the drive and intelligence to limit the wasteful spending, or a least contain it within America. Honestly, I straddle the middle of political lines but I will vote for Obama because his speeches, while high on rhetoric, boil under the surface with a commitment to long-term plans to revitalize America. I don’t want to hear the word “war” one single time with the next president. The only word I want to hear is “America.”
Posted by: Ben | September 9, 2008, 9:00 am 9:00 am
Marty, are you an idiot? I mean really, that was unbelievably one-sided. I mean really, you don’t think the Republican Party has raised more than 10 million dollars? Please, could you possibly be more biased?
Posted by: Chris | September 9, 2008, 9:00 am 9:00 am
Judgment.
As the ObamaTitanic slowly sinks, fewer and fewer people will be wanting to donate their money to his losing cause.
Now if Barry O. had picked Hillary or Hillary was at the top of the ticket – it would be a totally different race. There would be no Governor Palin on the Republican ticket.
Judgment.
Barry O. has good judgment?
Posted by: Zank | September 9, 2008, 9:03 am 9:03 am
Hey, Jon, I didn’t post that. Someone supposedly named “Samantha” did. I responded to it.
Posted by: DG | September 9, 2008, 9:04 am 9:04 am
Amazing how ignorant some of the McCain posters are… or maybe they’re just dishonest.
The FACT is that John McCain, accepted Public Financing during the Primaries.
He used the guarantee of those Public Funds, as collateral for a loan.
Then decided to opt out of Public Financing, then kept the loan.
In other words, he used money he didn’t have as collateral… gaming the Public Finance system. This is illegal, but the Fed Election Commission couldn’t make a ruling on this, since there are too many vacancies on it, effectively making it toothless.
You try to do that at your bank… see how it goes for you.
McCain is just a hypocrite. He was for Public Financing, before he was against it, before he was for it again.
Posted by: jon | September 9, 2008, 9:05 am 9:05 am
Had Hillary been on the ticket, the Republicans would be destroying her character at the moment. Instead, they are doing the same to who? The next President of the United States, that’s who.
Posted by: DG | September 9, 2008, 9:06 am 9:06 am
JWx2: That’s a good point. I do give to charity, but I can’t accomplish what the government can (well, a smart government could). At least collect the money and distribute it to states to disburse as they see fit. I do agree that states (generally) can best manage their own citizens and should have the ability to do so.
Posted by: Ben | September 9, 2008, 9:08 am 9:08 am
Governor Palin is the Governor of Alaska. I am a proud Republican but am embarrassed that my party would so blantantly add someone to the ticket with little experience from a state with little in common to the rest of the country. McCain could have just as easily put a US citizen who has lived in another country their whole life on the ballot.
I mean seriously, no experience?!, her hair in a bun?!, those silly glasses?!, her pencil skirts?!?! Is she running as VP or McCain’s secretary? McCain’s positioning of her as the reason to vote for him is laughable.
The day he chose her, I switched sides and have been aggressively donating money and giving time to Obama/Biden. McCain can have a few Hillary voters if he wants but the media needs to know that there are a TON of republicans who are switching sides for the experience, professionalism and honesty that Obama provides.
Who’s with me?
Posted by: Jay | September 9, 2008, 9:10 am 9:10 am
Maverick:
ANCHORAGE, Sept. 8 — Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has billed taxpayers for 312 nights spent in her own home during her first 19 months in office, charging a “per diem” allowance intended to cover meals and incidental expenses while traveling on state business.
The governor also has charged the state for travel expenses to take her children on official out-of-town missions. And her husband, Todd, has billed the state for expenses and a daily allowance for trips he makes on official business for his wife.
From the Washington Post
Change you can believe in or more of the same?
Oh but let me guess what the koolaid drinkers are thinking: “Oh, but that’s just the elitist liberal media Palin attackers!” LET NO FACTS SMEAR OUR IGNORANCE!!!! There’s the real motto you folks can believe in!!!
Posted by: DG | September 9, 2008, 9:11 am 9:11 am
they did it in 2000, they did it in 2004, and they are doing it again in 2008 –> lose another election. The change in polls recently giving John McCain the lead, is no surprise. Obama has made many mistakes because of his inexperience. The Democrats slide started when Howard Dean came on board back in 2000. My guess: McCain wins this election, Hillary runs in 2012 and wins. wait and see.
Posted by: Another Former Democrat | September 9, 2008, 9:14 am 9:14 am
Obama has lousy judgement.
Can’t help to think that Obama and his crowd absolutely hate women.
What other reason to bypass Hillary Clinton (18 million voters) and put Biden on ticket?
The vile comments made by Obama democrats about Hillary Clinton was just an indication that the democratic party is the party of woman “intolerance”. (and I was a democrat for many years, but the democratic party really has changed–well, that’s one change Obama did (to the democratic party).
Now they are piling up on Palin; I am totally convinced that “any” woman is just not acceptable in the democratic party.
This “new” democratic of Obama is not the democratic party that stands up for the middle class and women. It’s just that simple.
Hillary 2012
McCain/Palin 2008
Posted by: NielPA | September 9, 2008, 9:15 am 9:15 am
I think Obama needs to stop doing so many big events and grab Bill Clinton and get out there on the back of pick up trucks and really start campaigning. Obama seems to have a really big ego and that’s why he didn’t want to choose Hillary Clinton, because he wanted to be the biggest star in the room and would have to fight for attention. Not using Bill Clinton is a mistake, look how it helped Gore and Kerry who didn’t use him. If Obama would have chose Sen Clinton the republicans would have never chose Palin. Joe Biden is not exciting at all and to be a bull dog he’s really doesn’t have a lot of bite. Sarah Palin is a new face and is very exciting so while everyone is focus on her John McCain is going to glide through the election.
Posted by: Kardasia_Prime | September 9, 2008, 9:16 am 9:16 am
I wasn’t pleased when Obama changed his mind about financing, though I do understand the reasoning behind the decision change. It takes a lot of money to challenge the Republican party.
I still do not know why people are so taken in by it. It’s what we have now – why in the world would it change? The rich will become richer – on your backs. McCain thinks you’re whiners, thinks things are going along pretty well. Please wake up.
Excuse me while I leave to make a donation to Obama. An investment in our future, for the middle class. My back aches from the last 8 years.
By the way, have you noticed all the areas that McCain in now “saying” he is for the same kinds of things Obama has campaigned for all along. Hmmm, guess he knows who’s right. But I don’t believe McCain – he thinks things are going pretty well in this country.
Posted by: Tough2Name | September 9, 2008, 9:18 am 9:18 am
I think the Obama has hit a tipping point in their campaign. Much of what drives the celebrity, media-circus ramatzz has now shifted to McCain-Palin.
It is all part of the game, and Obama would be very naive to not understand that. He is YESTERDAY’s news; the media and public have new darling and it is NOT OBAMA.
NO WAY ! NO OBAMA !!!
Posted by: McCain/Palin 2008 | September 9, 2008, 9:20 am 9:20 am
If I were the Clintons I would…stay clear of this race, pretend that they are for Obama, go to places and campaign where there is no chance to convince the public to vote for Obama, let his ship sink to the bottom and gear everything towards running for President in 2012. Palin will break the glass ceiling in 2008 and make it “easier” for Hillary to run in 2012.
Posted by: Another Former Democrat | September 9, 2008, 9:21 am 9:21 am
One big point to remember. Congress has a democratic majority for the last 2 years. Almost 2 years ago the republicans warned of the housing disaster and offered plans for the government to step in and freddie and fannie..The democrats screwed this up and rejected it time and time again.. Only when our largest home lenders are near bankruptcy did we get this bill past to help out..
DONT THINK REPUBLICANS ARE SCREWING EVERYTHING UP WHEN CONGRESS AND SENATE IS CONTROLLED BY DEMOCRATS FOR THE LAST 2 YEARS..
GO MCAIN – PALIN..
Posted by: Schmidty | September 9, 2008, 9:21 am 9:21 am
It’s obvious to me that Obama couldn’t choose Hillary. If Obama chose Hillary the Bill & Hillary would be running the country. Can you imagine Obama even thinking he was in charge with these two?
Posted by: Goldenrod | September 9, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am
Fact #1: when Obama had a post convention bounce, it was easily defendable as an insignificant and short spike in his polls.
Fact #2: when McCain had a post convention bounce, it was a sure sign of the faltering Obama campaign.
Posted by: DG | September 9, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am
Jon,
Take a deep breath. How can something be illegal if the ruling body hasn’t made a ruling? I admit the loan sounds dodgey but who made you the judge and jury? If the Democrats hadn’t played politics with the FEC board appointees for years and actually let the floor vote on an appointee or two they might have had enough memebers for a quorum by now. You never know, a David Sutter type can always slip through.
Also, the vast majority of private donations are not going to the McCain campaign directly, they are going to the RNC. As I’m sure you’re aware there are different rules for donating to a national party. McCain has been benefitting from party unity, assured that most monies donated to the RNC will be spent by the RNC to benefit McCain. What’s wrong with that? Obama could have done the same thing with the DNC but I guess he doesn’t trust Howard Dean enough.
Posted by: Woody | September 9, 2008, 9:24 am 9:24 am
This concludes that funding problem was a pre-Palin’s situation for Obama. The gap is huge. So, media bashing up Sarah Palin may not help Obama in any way to fix his image or his campaign finance. He will have to retool his campaign.
Posted by: Tim | September 9, 2008, 9:27 am 9:27 am
DG prove that any quote I made was fake and you can start with these:
1. “I had learned not to care. I blew a few smoke rings, remembering those years. Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it. Not smack, though. …” — Barack Obama
2. “It was usually an effective tactic, another one of those tricks I had learned: (White) People were satisfied so long as you were courteous and smiled and made no sudden moves. They were more than satisfied, they were relieved — such a pleasant surprise to find a well-mannered young black man who didn’t seem angry all the time.” — Barack Obama
3. “The point I was making was not that Grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn’t. But she is a typical white person…” — Barack Obama
4. On 60 minutes:
MICHELLE OBAMA: I don’t lose sleep over it, because the realities are that, you know, as a black man, you know, Barack can get shot going to the gas station, you know. So, you know, you can’t — you know, you can’t make decisions based on fear and the possibility of what might happen. We just weren’t raised that way.
Posted by: Samantha | September 9, 2008, 9:27 am 9:27 am
I AGREE, the democrats have been in charge of the senate nad congress for two years and haven’t put through anything meaningful. I voted for a democratic president since 1984…not this year! The media and the democratic party turned me off to this one. I’m not voting for a party, i’m voting for the best person to lead this country…the one that has a record and has experience. McCain is no Bush. The COUNTRY wanted change after 8 years of President Clinton (who I voted for twice)!!! We sure did get change… Now the Dmocrats want change again…Fool me once shame on me, fool me twice…not this time!
Posted by: Another Former Democrat | September 9, 2008, 9:28 am 9:28 am
Bravo, Ben – you have my respect and admiration. Thank you for all you do. I hope there are enough decent, strong, caring, unselfish (though that’s a tough one for Americans) people out there to head this country back in the right direction. We’re fading fast. And wars won’t bring us back.
Posted by: Tough2Name | September 9, 2008, 9:30 am 9:30 am
Schmidty, way to cherry pick those facts. How about the fact that Republicans did nothing to regulate the housing boom and the incredibly risky practice of the bundling and sale of bank loans to outside investors during the previous six years. And BTW, Republicans & Democrats warned of what was coming for Fannie & Freddie, but this failure was not the Democrats fault. Try to manipulate the truth better or you won’t fit in with your party!
Posted by: DG | September 9, 2008, 9:30 am 9:30 am
It is rather amusing to hear the Obama campaign claim to have a monetary disadvantage. These are the people that laid claims to the biggest fundraising days in all of history. What that means is they have squandered it all, and for what? Obama has tens of millions and is still behind. I’m thinking its a very bad idea to invest in Obama at this point. I don’t care for McCain in the least, but I cannot see giving Obama financial support. Obama’s campaign tactics have turned into mocking and scorn, and he’s run negative ads. He brought in Biden who’s pockets are filled with special interest money. The few backers that thinks he is not business as usual may be looking past reality. Next we will hear him blaming Hillary Clinton for his own mismanagement of the hundreds of millions of dollars.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | September 9, 2008, 9:33 am 9:33 am
NielPA: “just an indication that the democratic party is the party of woman “intolerance”"
Really? Then why is it that Democratic women holding actual positions of power in Congress out number Republican women 2 to 1? Why is it the Democrats had the first woman vice presidential nominee over two decades ago?
11 Democratic women Senators vs 5 Republicans women
54 women Representatives vs 21 Republican women
1st woman Speaker of the House in history is Democrats
Those are real, law-making, role-model setting, power exercising facts that make an utter lie of your absurd spin.
Posted by: jhw539 | September 9, 2008, 9:37 am 9:37 am
Thanks, munroej for posting this
”
If you want lower taxes, you may want to read about Senate Bill 2433 (S.2233), that donates 0.7% of our GDP directly to the UN.
Estimated to cost US taxpayers $845 BILLION, you can read about it on Obama’s web site.
”
This is really a stupid bill. Why should we feed the world while they are all against us?
It is very poor judgment for the Democrats, and Obama.
It is the Obama should not be our president.
McCain/Palin 08
Posted by: Microtek | September 9, 2008, 9:39 am 9:39 am
Samantha, prove the quote I questioned wasn’t fake instead of promoting your clearly racist message with the quotes you put up there. Oh but for you they prove he’s a reverse racist; clever way to try to hide what your saying, but get real. And don’t forget to mention that he did drugs in his young adulthood. Oooooh he’s so scary!!! The current enormous failure of a President was a cocaine addict for years and is an alcoholic, or have you forgotten that fact?
Posted by: DG | September 9, 2008, 9:39 am 9:39 am
Obama has raised more money than any candidate in history.
He just hasn’t managed the spending of it very well.
Which we should all take note of since he says managing his campaign is the same as Palin’s executive experience as governor.
Who is a better financial steward?
Posted by: marylou | September 9, 2008, 9:40 am 9:40 am
WestCoastMessenger: “Obama’s campaign tactics have turned into mocking and scorn”
I take it that you did not watch the Republican convention, or we can assume that you are wildly partisan and choosing to criticize Obama’s campaign for having a glass of whine while ignoring the fact that McCain’s campaign just finished chugging the last can in a 24 pack.
Also, do you consider pointing out real, factually problems with the Republican ticket (Palin is documented as supporting the Bridge to Nowhere, she is against sex education in school, she does not believe in climate change science, she appears ignorant of the basic structure of Freddie Mac, she had never even had a passport until last year, etc) “mocking and scorn?”
Posted by: jhw539 | September 9, 2008, 9:41 am 9:41 am
I can’t believe these idiots who are blaming all our problems on the 2 years of Democratically controlled congress? Do you really think they caused the whole mortgage crisis in a matter of 6 months? What exactly did they do to start this?
Oh, wait – they must have aggressively deregulated that industry and they must want to agressively deregulate others, right?
No, that was the republicans. Just like the S&L scandal (with McCain’s good buddy Charles Keating), the republicans just found a way to give billions of our taxpayer dollars to their rich friends. This time, they gave up the value of most of our homes.
Yet STILL McCain favors deregulation.
Posted by: Franklin | September 9, 2008, 9:43 am 9:43 am
Am I right in suspecting that so many ‘former democrats’ commenting here and writing as if reading from a Rove key points document is not really a coincidence?
Either we are experiencing a political miracle or there is a call center full of ‘former democrats’ getting paid by the word for carpet-commenting the blogosphere….
Good work!
Posted by: Swen Boccioli | September 9, 2008, 9:43 am 9:43 am
Mary Lou, don’t you realize that this is a elitist left wing media conspiracy to get more people to donate money to Obama today?
Posted by: DG | September 9, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am
DG, which quote are you saying is FAKE?
You screen name DG is difficult to do a search on.
Posted by: Samantha | September 9, 2008, 9:45 am 9:45 am
America cannot continue on its arrogant self-righteous path. A lot of the things Obama wants to do are unpopular, but they are most certainly in the best interest of our country and the world. You have to take risks to succeed, all McCain will do is perpetuate America’s slide to mediocrity.
Thank you Ben for the only open minded comment so far:
Wow! Many of the comments above are filled with such venom that it makes your stomach turn. I for one make over 500k a year and I’m willing to accept higher taxes to help the poor. What happened to the proverb of the old lady giving her last penny to Jesus? She gave everything she had, while the rich comparatively gave more but only a fraction of their wealth. It is a biblical principal to give to others and to help others. Yes, I worked my ass off to get where I am. Yes, a part of me does resent giving more in taxes to support those who don’t have the same work ethic that I do. Yes, we have a bloated government that doesn’t wisely spend the more money I will fork over. Despite all this, I am still willing to SACRIFICE for America. I am not looking for a president to cut taxes (I majored in finance/economic and I understand the unproven principal that if you cut taxes it stimulates the economy). I am looking for Americans to stop being selfish and to start sacrificing to make America great again.
Who wants an unpredictable president (i.e. Bush) who scoffs diplomacy and instead waves his big stick? It is time for America to take the log out of its own eye before we try to take the splinter out of someone else’s. Let’s focus on America! Let’s invest massive amounts of money in alternative energy, in education, in science and technology. Let’s invest money in an educated, passionate committee that will show us how best to invest our money. Screw being the world leader for now. Screw helping other nations. Let’s pay off America’s debt and lead by example!
I trust Obama to do this more than McCain.
Posted by: ED | September 9, 2008, 9:48 am 9:48 am
DG: The current enormous failure of a President was a cocaine addict for years and is an alcoholic, or have you forgotten that fact?
___________________________________
No, I did not and I DID NOT VOTE FOR GEORGE W. BUSH. I WILL NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA EITHER. IF YOUR FELT THAT BUSH IS SUCH A FAILURE AND YOU SITE HIS COCAINE USAGE WHY ARE YOU VOTING FOR OBAMA WHO SAID:
“Junkie. Pothead. That’s where I’d been headed: the final, fatal role of the young would-be black man. Except the highs hadn’t been about that, me trying to prove what a down brother I was. Not by then, anyway. I got high for just the opposite effect, something that could push questions of who I was out of my mind, something that could flatten out the landscape of my heart, blur the edges of my memory. I had discovered that it didn’t make any difference whether you smoked reefer in the white classmate’s sparkling new van, or in the dorm room of some brother you’d met down at the gym, or on the beach with a couple of Hawaiian kids who had dropped out of school and now spent most of their time looking for an excuse to brawl. …You might just be bored, or alone. Everybody was welcome into the club of disaffection.” — Barack Obama
YOU EXAMPLE OF GEORGE BUSH ONLY PROVES MY POINT SO THANK YOU!!!!!
Posted by: Samantha | September 9, 2008, 9:50 am 9:50 am
DG,
Forget cherry-picking, you’re doing an excellent job of rewriting history. The current subprime mess can be traced back to the Community Reinvestment Act, a product of the Carter administration. It really got some teeth with the Clinton administration added some “reforms”. Go do a little digging.
Posted by: Woody | September 9, 2008, 9:50 am 9:50 am
I do not know. Haven’t seen the results yet, but it cones up every month. suffice to say that public financing does not work to begin with. If McCain is restricted to $84 million, why is that Obama needs $200 million? Because the public financing is a scam.
Think about it McCain is digging into our Taxes for his benifit without a loss of revenue for his Campaign.
Public financing, just one more way for a politician to get at my money for private gain
Posted by: Thinking | September 9, 2008, 9:50 am 9:50 am
The CHANGEling’s campaign changed his previous promise to use public financing “so they could raise and spend unlimited sums”.
From reading the Times article — which suggests that David Plouffe and David Axelrod aren’t on the same page, message-wise — it seems uncertain that there really IS what any other campaign would consider a money shortage.
This poor-mouthing gambit, though, DOES gives the Obama campaign another way, besides race-baiting, to play the underdog — and we can look for his demoted MSNBC commentators to play this “story” for the last dollar he can extract from the poor, black, and/or gullible.
Posted by: Belle Starr | September 9, 2008, 9:53 am 9:53 am
Obama dug his own grave. He could have unified the Democrats by choosing Clinton, but he chose to be divisive. If he can’t unite his own party, how can we trust him to unite the country?
Posted by: Jane | September 9, 2008, 9:54 am 9:54 am
“If McCain is restricted to $84 million, why is that Obama needs $200 million?”
Posted by: Belle Starr | September 9, 2008, 9:55 am 9:55 am
I agree, Obama is a polarizing and divisive figure.
Posted by: Mary | September 9, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am
Some important factual corrections about the “Democratic Congress” of the past less-than-2-years:
1) There was still a Republican President who could (and did) veto legislation passed by both houses of Congress. Overturning a veto requires a 2/3 vote of both houses, meaning at least 67 in the Senate.
2) The Democratic majority in the Senate was only 1 vote at 51-49, and that of Joe Lieberman because he caucused with the Democrats. Bernie Sanders, an independent, is the other non-Democrat helping to make up the Democratic “majority.”
3) Under Senate rules, ending debate and filibuster and bringing a measure to the floor for a vote requires at least 60 votes (it’s called “cloture”). The Democrats have been 9 votes shy, even assuming Lieberman voted with them, of being able to stop Republican filibusters.
While Democrats are able to control issues like committee chairpersonships and what bills do *not* get put to a vote, they do not have anywhere near the numbers needed to either overrule Bush vetoes or block Senate Republican filibusters, so their actual ability to change policies and laws from the 6 years that Republicans held both houses and the Presidency is quite limited. Before accusing the Democrats of ineffectiveness, one should look at how many bills passed in the House but died in the Senate for lack of 60 votes. The reality is that the Republican senators and Bush still effectively keep Congress from passing legislation that might effectuate some change. A President McCain, who has not proposed anything substantially different from that of what Bush has done, would certainly not alter that calculus significantly, even if the Democrats manage to get 60 Senate seats, since they would still be under the 67 necessary to override a McCain veto.
If Americans truly want a change in the country’s direction, they must not only elect Barack Obama as President, but must work to elect more Democratic senators as well. {ProfJonathan}
Posted by: ProfJonathan | September 9, 2008, 10:04 am 10:04 am
Happy days, happy days! Time to stand up to the bullies in the media and the Hollywood celebrities who attack their own if they don’t swear allegiance to Obama. We are not fooled by ‘change’ in the slick package wrapped up by the same old far-left radicals. As McCain said: stand up, stand up for America! Country first!
Posted by: FlaLady | September 9, 2008, 10:12 am 10:12 am
Nancy Pelosi cannot manufacture Democratic senators out of whole cloth, nor can she singlehandedly change the Senate’s rules on cloture or the number of votes needed to overturn a Presidential veto. The Republican senators can choose and have chosen to block many laws from being voted upon, aided and abetted by the suddenly active veto pen of President Bush. Place the blame where it truly lies on the facts, not where your ideology would like to put it. {ProfJonathan}
Posted by: ProfJonathan | September 9, 2008, 10:18 am 10:18 am
Listen up!!!!! This is for everyone on this blog.
If you want the same 8 years, then vote for McCain/Palin.
McCain advisor admits this is not about issues in American.
If you want change, then vote for Obama/Biden.
Hillary states this is about issues in America.
Posted by: Christm | September 9, 2008, 10:19 am 10:19 am
Sarah Palin has proven so far only two things:
1. She’s good at reading a teleprompter or memorizing someone else’s talking points. That she who didn’t have time to think about Iraq to now be attacking Obama’s positions is ludicrous!
2. She’s a great liar, a fine GOP trait. She’ll just keep telling those lies, even after they’vebeen exposed because she’s just so “cute” that those Repubs just want to believe everytbing she says! They’ve drank the Koolaid, for sure!
McCain and his “soulmate.” Just what we want running our country for the next four years!
NOT!
No Way, No HOW, NO McSAME!!!
No Way, No HOW, NO PALIN!!!
Obama/Biden 08
Posted by: jackt51 | September 9, 2008, 10:19 am 10:19 am
msstickly:”jwh: Oh how generous of democrats to let women play a part. That’s so nice. It really negates the fact that they passed up the most QUALIFIED candidate because she is a woman.(sic) And they wouldn’t even let her be VP.
Women were disregarded, ignored utterly by my former party this year and there ain’t no other fact gonna change that. ”
How generous? Not really – the Democrats have just been accepting qualified women candidates and electing them for almost a generation. The Republicans haven’t. This is fact, as shown by the 2 to 1 disparty in Congress. Senator and Representative are not token positions – they are the end game, most powerful slots in the party save one (President). What, they are “letting women play a part” by placing them in the top positions of power? Um, right.
Saying women were ignored by the Democratic party this year makes you look foolish – the DNC superdelegates were overwhelmingly in favor of Senator Clinton at the start of the primaries. This is documented fact, she had a massive superdelegate lead over the whole field on day, and the fundraising windfall that entailed. She had all the support in the world and only ultimately lost out to a better run campaign that showed a superior understanding of the rules of the game (that she had a large hand than Senator Obama in setting).
Posted by: jhw539 | September 9, 2008, 10:21 am 10:21 am
Oh, and by the way, Chaxter, Nancy Pelosi is the speaker of the House of Representatives, so your criticism of her is doubly flawed. Harry Reid is the Senate Majority Leader, and it is his house that is hamstrung by a 51-49 vote shaky majority. {ProfJonathan}
Posted by: ProfJonathan | September 9, 2008, 10:22 am 10:22 am
Obama wasted $6 Million on a temple to feed his over-sized ego. Millions more
on organic colorful food.
His ego will control every decision he makes–and arrogance will defeat him.
He didn’t need public finance because money was pouring in.
He didn’t need Hillary because he didn’t want her to outshine him.
The Berlin speech would prove to America how wonderful he is–it just showed to most of us how unAmerican he is.
Posted by: harry | September 9, 2008, 10:23 am 10:23 am
“If you want change, then vote for Obama/Biden.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | September 9, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am
Was it smart ? … well you got to start asking the independent block of voters.
The former political director of Reagan, Ed Rollins is quoted as saying that the selection of Palin has been a game-changer and has energized my party like no one since Ronald Reagan did four decades ago.
However, …
If Obama camp thinks that Palin is just energizing the social conservatives, hockey/soccer mums and women; then they better look even farther and deeper, the shift is across the board.
Latest Gallup polls shows that majority of independents now prefer McCain over Obama, 52% to 37%
McCain 52%
Obama 37%
That is is 15% lead … checkmate.
Posted by: McCain/Palin 2008 | September 9, 2008, 10:26 am 10:26 am
The vile pro-Obama media has finally found someone their own size to pick
on–a 17y/old girl.
Nice to know the world is getting to see how far the media will go to get Obama elected.
They forgot one thing–most of us are decent human beings.
Posted by: sally | September 9, 2008, 10:27 am 10:27 am
“Obama wasted $6 Million on a temple to feed his over-sized ego. Millions more
on organic colorful food.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | September 9, 2008, 10:30 am 10:30 am
What gallup poll are you looking at? It’s 49/44 at 9:30 on Tuesday, sept 9. Again GOP distortion.
Wasting money on the stage for the DNC? You forget that money spent was money Obama’s supporters gave him. It was not public financing. By comparison McCain can’t even have right slide in his stage show, substituting Walter Reed Middle School for Walter Reed Hospital. And you people think that this man is fit for command when he can’t even oversee such a minor detail?
Picking on Palen’s daughter? Palen/McCain threw her under the bus by announcing it to the world. Also playing the double standard by condemning teenage pregnancy on all levels and in all places for the last 20 years, but when it’s your new golden girl’s teenage daughter that came up pregnant, then it’s God’s blessing. How many of you other than O’Reilly lambasted Jamie Lynn Spears for the same thing only a few months ago?
Mavericks you call these two? Really?
Try google and search for Keating McCain Bundler. Keating, yes the Keating 5 Keating, has bundled 5 million for McCain’s campaign. Mavericks? I think not.
Posted by: landlocked | September 9, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am
With regard to the inappropriateness of criticizing teenaged daughters, I don’t remember any of the major newspapers crafting anything remotely as vile about Bristol Palin as what Senator McCain said about Chelsea Clinton in 1998 at a fundraiser:
“”Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly?
Because her father is Janet Reno.”
The story, including the list of papers that reported (or refused to report) the “joke,” is easily discovered online (the spam filter won’t let me post the link to the 6/25/98 David Corn Salon piece that discussed it).
So has John McCain somehow changed his entire personality in 10 years, from a senator willing to savagely mock the teenaged daughter of a political rival into an open-minded gentleman? To quote Senator McCain himself, that’s not change I can believe in. {ProfJonathan}
Posted by: ProfJonathan | September 9, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am
I don’t have to vote for Obama just because Hillary Clinton or the DNC tells me to. My vote for McCain is not a spite vote or because I am angry. If I had extreme objections to McCain or Palin I would not be voting in this election at all. But I am sure that is what DNC Obamabots would advocate. That we either get over Hillary or stay at home and don’t vote for the sake of Saint Obama.
I voted for HRC in the primary. She did not win, so now my options are open.
I have been voting since Dukakis ran against Bush. I did not like either one of them but voted for Dukakis anyway. A man that I felt would be an incapable leader. When I cast my vote for Dukakis/Bentson, I did not feel good about it. Yes he lost but I promised my self that I would never vote for someone again just because they were the Democratic presidential nominee.
I voted for Clinton each time he ran and Al Gore who lost in 2000. When Kerry/Edwards Versus G.Bush came along I did not care for either candidate and chose neither.
2008 is not the case. I do admire many things about John McCain and I think that he is sincere in his desire to be a good president and lead this country. He despises Bush and I think that McCain is doing what he needs to do to keep his standing in the RNC until he wins office. When McCain was considering changing to the DNC, I was thrilled but he remained a Republican I respect that and never lost my respect for him. Bottom line, I have always respected and admired John Mccain so I have no problem choosing him over Obama. Neither does Leiberman.
I will not be a DNC robot and vote for Obama just because I traditionally vote DEM.. Why? Because I feel that he would be a DISASTER and cause irrevocable damage to the DNC. In many ways he has already divided us and has a name calling campaign.
If there are any Hillary supporters who vote out of spite, so be it. They have that right and there is nothing the Obamabots can do about it. There is however something that could have been done to prevent it and your candidate Obama took a HUGE risk and chose not to do so.
Let the chips fall where they may. You cannot force ANYONE to vote for Obama.
Now the Obamabots will tell you that I am a GOP operative. Whatever!
The DNC has an image problem. They can’t SEE themselves for the hypocrites they are.
Posted by: Samantha | September 9, 2008, 10:41 am 10:41 am
“Mavericks you call these two? Really?”
Posted by: Belle Starr | September 9, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am
People sure get hostile when they write in these blogs. I just want to say that I honestly do not understand how anyone can think Palen is really competent to be the next president if something should happen to McCain. She cares nothing about the environment. She has not been truthful regarding many issues already. Just because she is a fresh face and female people think she’s great. Amazing. Oh, and she is a pit bull with lipstick.
Posted by: Freespirit | September 9, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am
I’m a Republican, supporting Obama. I think he’s going to lose. And much as I tend to dislike Hillary Clinton personally, I think she probably would have won. The guy is 47 years old, and probably needed to lose. Were it not for the dire circumstances facing this country, I would say that was a good thing. Perhaps the dynamics of the final two months will force McCain to further adjust his position to recognize the fundamental “real” changes we need to make, in particular the need to abandon oil entirely as the source of our transportation fuel, and create an entirely new transportation fuel industry based on large-scale open-ocean aquaculture for the production of bio-diesel and hydrogen.
It’s easy to talk about supporting R&D into alternative energy sources, it’s another thing entirely to recognize the strategic necessity for this country to seize the opportunity to develop and dominate the single most critical resource for human civilization going forward: an inexhaustible, environmentally benign source of fuel for transportation. If we continue to pour capital resources into ever more expensive oil-drilling technologies, we simply prolong the fossil-fuel endgame which we will eventually lose, and which will destroy our economy in the process.
Consider the EU response to Russia’s invasion of Georgia. They are progressively more dependent upon Russia’s vast oil and gas reserves, hence the US/European alliance is becoming more and more inconvenient, particularly in view of the unstable and weakening US economy. Our only chance of remaining a dominant world power is to disconnect from imported oil, and aggressively seek to take the lead on developing the technology which must, of necessity be developed, given the finite and nearly exhausted fossil energy resources.
That is the change we need, and all other variations on the theme won’t matter if we don’t get going on it as soon as possible.
Posted by: randy | September 9, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am
Our constitution says ”We the People” he was spot-on! Not we the rich or we Big Business.
Posted by: y.sister | September 9, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am
The tide is definitely turning, it is no wonder that Obamabots are struggling to raise $, the latest Gallup poll is showing that :
A majority of Americans (52%) now consider John McCain a strong and decisive leader, while 41% say the same about Barack Obama.
That is a 11% lead !!!
Posted by: McCain/Palin 2008 | September 9, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am
“the need to abandon oil entirely as the source of our transportation fuel, and create an entirely new transportation fuel industry based on large-scale open-ocean aquaculture for the production of bio-diesel and hydrogen.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | September 9, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am
For those who think that the swing towards Palin is just a women thing, well here is another surprise for Obama the rock star :
A CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey out Tuesday indicates that 62 percent of men questioned have a favorable opinion of the Alaska governor, nine points higher than women.
I am sure Michelle is wants some of that attention !!!
Posted by: McCain/Palin 2008 | September 9, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am
I am tired of Axelrod bringing up 527 money. Last I checked there are more liberal 527s out there with much more money.
Face it, obama sold his principles and to make matters worse, he made the wrong call.
Obama shows his poor judgment once again.
He will make for a poor leader, it is clear as day.
Posted by: JA | September 9, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am
I know people dont seriously believe there is a fundraising issue with Obama….do they?? OK…keep thinking that, and around Sept 20th, no less than $100 million for the month of August. Please…haven’t the media made a fool of you long enough? Are you still buying these false narratives?
Posted by: Lynne | September 9, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
We are experiencing the Palin “bubble” and nothing more. Obama got a big, positive bubble effect when he emerged. Let’s not forget that Palin’s only been on the national scene for a week and a half.
Once she has to take interviews and questions from reporters, things will settle down.
Posted by: David | September 9, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm
We are experiencing the Palin “bubble” and nothing more. Obama got a big, positive bubble effect when he emerged. Let’s not forget that Palin’s only been on the national scene for a week and a half.
Once she has to take interviews and questions from reporters, things will settle down.
Posted by: David | September 9, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm
Samantha, probably too late for you to see this response, but my point about Bush and cocaine usage was frankly meant to put a perspective on your insistence on bringing up Obama’s avowed drug use as a young adult. Dabbling/experimenting with drugs in one’s youth is far different than an abuse problem (as W clearly had with alcohol and cocaine). Obama wrote eloquently, in my opinion, in his book about feeling himself descending into a pretty negative place – one riven with self-pity and the need for numbing. He managed to pick himself up out of that as many people have. Whether you will concede it or not, it is commendable, not a character flaw or reason to claim he is unelectable.
Further, the quote that I claim you made up had to do with your suggestion that Obama is so full of himself that somehow he was somehow condescending in the manner he viewed running for the Presidency.
Look, you’ve got your reasons for going over to McCain, but mostly, from what I can tell, they revolved around hatred for Obama because he deprived your candidate from being the nominee. I assume if you are a Democrat or independent worried about social issues that you are fine with what that entails. There were two unprecedented highly telegenic and qualified candidates for the Democratic nomination, and obviously one was going to have to lose. I feel bad that you’ve personalized it to the point that you would sell out your own interests, but that’s your choice.
Posted by: DG | September 9, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
The Obama campaign made a mistake by not taking the public financing. They believed Hillary supporters would contribute to Obama’s campaign. They have not. In fact, many have switched support to other candidates (Green Party or McCain/Palin).
The other issue is Obama’s campaign burn rate. They spend much more than they take in and that’s part of their problem. They’ve handled their finances poorly. How will they handle a national budget? We will never know as it’s likely Obama will lose in Nov. Without Hillary supporters onboard, he can’t win.
Posted by: anne | September 9, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
Bad judgements are starting to pile on for Obama and the DNC.
First, he decides to pass on public financing (the Omighty one is smug about his fund raising capabilities)
Second, he totally brushes Hillary and Bill aside and “keeps” them in line at the Convention (the anointed one only needs himself to get elected)
Now, he is behind on both! Lack of foresight & arrogance prevented him from seeing Palin coming at him.
ABC, please follow up on an article I read in the LA TIMES a month or so ago that stated that Obama has sent his volunteers to register African American criminals that have not yet been sentenced, as well as felons who have already served their sentences, so they can vote for him in November. The article said they wanted to keep this quiet because it could cause a backlash for his campaign.
Posted by: BJ | September 9, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
Obama hasn’t released his #s for August yet, so it will be interesting to see how he is doing. September totals will be telling. I think a lot of Bush supporters will be surprised by the Palin bump Obama has received.
Posted by: hazel | September 9, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
I am willing to bet, he will post a ridiculous fund raising number. Remember he gave a great speech at the end of the convention, had fundraisers, registered voters, etc.
It maybe short of their goal of $100Million, but it will be north of $50Million.
Posted by: r-dub | September 9, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm
This article raises a good question that needs to be asked: Why on Earth did Obama forgoe public financing??
If he had taken the money he still could have raised plenty of dough that could be funneled through the DNC by his appearances at fundraisers.
I think when we look back, we’ll see Obama’s undoing came with McCain’s appointment of Palin and 2 bad decisions on Barack’s part:
1. Overlooking Hillary for VP
2. Not taking the public MONEY
Posted by: HiFinance | September 9, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm
It was worse than a mistake, it was a broken promise that exposed the Obama campaign as a fraudulent lie. His campaign is not the gauzy idealistic campaign of last winter. It’s a long, hard slog to get across the finish line by hook or by crook while bamboozling as many people as possible.
Are you still fooled?
Obama Lied,
Hero-Worship Died.
Posted by: Travis Monitor | September 10, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am
“Obama is preparing Americans for what lies ahead. He has said (unlike McCain) that the road ahead is long and difficult. ”
IF Obama is President – YES, the road will be long and difficult.
Obama will be the worst President in my lifetime. (And I lived through LBJ and Carter!)
Posted by: Travis Monitor | September 10, 2008, 12:52 am 12:52 am
“If you want change, then vote for Obama/Biden.”
That’s IDIOTIC!
The DEMOCRATS control Congress.
They are the status quo right now, and they have been incompetent. If Obama was a real leader he would get his agenda passed by Congress NOW and dare Bush to veto it.
He won’t because his campaign promises dont all add up and America cant afford them.
Obama is a zero, as in zero leadership.
Posted by: Travis Monitor | September 10, 2008, 12:55 am 12:55 am