By Jaketapper

Sep 11, 2008 11:38pm

When He’s Facing a Tough Woman…Obama Goes on ‘SNL’

Live from New York … it’s Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill.

The campaign confirms that the Democratic presidential nominee will appear on the season premiere of "Saturday Night Live," with guest host Michael Phelps.

Last time Obama went on the show was in November 2007 (Watch HERE) — when he was battling the political star power of a different woman, Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y.

Since that appearance, "SNL" emerged as a player in the presidential election, with Clinton at a Democratic primary debate in Ohio even referencing an "SNL" skit mocking media adulation for Obama. (Not to mention Tina Fey’s "b*tch is the new black" paean to Clinton.)

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., hosted the show several years ago (HERE’S his in/famous skit singing Barbra Streisand songs), and executive producer Lorne Michaels has donated money to McCain’s campaign. Michaels has said that the show is in discussions with Fey about coming back to portray her doppelganger, Gov. Sarah Palin.

The Obama campaign leaked the news of this second "SNL" gig to what seems to be rapidly becoming its favorite media outlet, People magazine, which scored the first joint interview with Obama and his then-freshly-named running mate, Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del. (And only one of two joint interviews the duo have done, period.)

Obama often complains about the media not covering enough substance, and focusing on too much entertainment-related tabloid nonsense.

- jpt

User Comments

Well if Sarah Palin can bring comedy to the ABC Nightly News, Barack can bring a big dose reality to SNL.

Posted by: Danny | September 11, 2008, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm

Astonishing. A candidate for the Vice Presidency of the United States gives her first interview, is unable to answer questions most high school students could answer, misquotes energy reserves, is not even remotely clear on the disasterous foreign policy doctrines of the Republican administration which is currently in place, and the newsman write ABOUT OBAMA ON SNL? How much do you get paid?

Posted by: mara | September 11, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm

Lest we forget, he just took his cause to Keith Olberman, MSBC and Bill O’Reilly, Faux… oops Fox News. Your snark is unworthy of him and you.

Posted by: ppicard | September 11, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm

I think Barack went over and above what any other candidate in this race has done with his gigantic interview series with Bill O’Reilly.
So now they have to do joint interviews, too? How about one with all their wives, childrens, and pets, and another with their respective campaign managers and the person who served them a sandwich filled with french fries at a street fair in Pittsburgh?
And by the way I meant to write “dose of reality” in the first post.

Posted by: Danny | September 11, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm

Obama knew exactly what he was doing in making the lipstick on a pig comment he is preoccupied with Palins fame and seems like his silly season comments are backfiring as well!

Posted by: staniam | September 11, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm

“Perhaps so”?
Dear God, Pray for us.
Threatening war with the world’s only other arrmed-to-the-teeth nuclear heavyweight ought to be accompanied by more than a “perhaps so” when queried about a possible direct armed conflict with Russia.
Careless and slapdash remarks and answers can easily lead to setting the world on fire.
When she answered a question about her “insight into Russian actions” with: “you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska”, I thought I was listening to a child in Kindergarten.

Posted by: Polderboy | September 11, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm

Barack Obama is a statesman. He can also have fun and SNL is a comedy show. It is not meant to be taken seriously but Jake it seems you have hard time distinguishing between media and news. Maybe that is the problem. I don’t have a hard time but many do. So don’t feel too bad.
The news at its best is supposed to tell the facts and only the facts without any slant at all. Those days seem to be gone.
The entertainment industry seems to have become muddled into the news department. You guys aren’t about informing us anymore. It is about your take on things. So we never get to truly judge a situation by ourselves. You do it for us and give us your slant. Then we judge through your glasses. That is not doing your job as a journalist. That is why we never discuss the issues. We discuss stupid things because that is what you feed us. It is all about the exclusive. The ratings. The numbers.
Here we are, trying to dig ourselves from too many problems to be discussed here and you want to talk about an SNL appearance. Who cares that he had a huge day of talking about service and remembering 9/11.
You can focus on what you think is important and can influence many. I can only hope to God that people are listening to the speeches and the issues, because that is what is important here. Focus. Its important.
Who is showing the judgement and stature of the President of The United States? I think that the level of respect, or lack thereof, for the American electorate speaks for itself.
Now put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Posted by: woman | September 11, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm

Michelle loves her kids more than Ms. I dont blink.
Posted by: NO_MORE_LIES | Sep 11, 2008
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Ehn…
Michelle loves her kids, staying home with them rather than paying tributes with her Pres-want-to-be husband to victims of a national tragedy.
Your Ms. I don’t blink went home without blink seeing her son, 19, off to harmed way – to a war zone – for her country.
Is there a way of measuring “love”?

Posted by: d0 | September 12, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am

Polderboy
you got it wrong by Obama thinking he is looking dignified and thoughtful the last couple of days have had him looking like a child…

Posted by: staniam | September 12, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am

woman
Obama isnt the answer no matter if you think he is the lesser of two evils or god forbid the messiah…he is just a regular poltician like anyone else… hes proved that recently

Posted by: staniam | September 12, 2008, 12:05 am 12:05 am

“only one of two joint interviews the duo have done, period”
McCain & Palin have done zero interviews.
Someone needs to tell Palin that this country’s first two VPs had met with foreign heads of state, and that was before airplanes were invented! They were John Adams and Thomas Jefferson. I guess she hasn’t yet watched the HBO series “John Adams”.
And the question about our troops going over the border into Pakistan. Does she not know current events? U.S. troops crossed the border into Pakistan last week. And Pakistan is not happy about it. Just today, the Pakistan’s army chief said they will defend sovereignty “at all cost”.

Posted by: cincyr | September 12, 2008, 12:06 am 12:06 am

well, People was also the only outlet Palin had an interview with.
Just sayin’

Posted by: Benjamin | September 12, 2008, 12:06 am 12:06 am

staniam
More talking points. You know McCain also cried sexism for the fish reference. This is absurd. By your definition McCain is sexist because he called Hillary a pig. McCain is less qualified then Palin because she has “executive” experience. Palin didn’t know the Bush Doctrine which has cause the biggest military blunder in decades. Palin incompetence = Bush incompetence. In other words who can put lipstick on Bush its still Bush.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 12:07 am 12:07 am

staniam
Prove it. Regular politicans find it easier to smear and character assassinate rather then build a grassroots organization. I’ll take Obama over McCain anyday.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 12:10 am 12:10 am

I almost threw up when I watched the clip of him with David Letterman.
I can’t believe what he said.
Act like immature person.

Posted by: catleya | September 12, 2008, 12:10 am 12:10 am

Obama isnt the answer no matter if you think he is the lesser of two evils or god forbid the messiah…he is just a regular poltician like anyone else… hes proved that recently
Posted by: staniam | Sep 12, 2008 12:05:22 AM
Why isn’t he the best person to be President of the United States?
I will only respond to true issues that we face every day, I will not get into inuendo or character attacks. Just tell me what your issue is. What is important to you?

Posted by: woman | September 12, 2008, 12:11 am 12:11 am

She clearly had no idea what she was talking about. The ten days of training did not seem to have helped.

Posted by: Eva | September 12, 2008, 12:12 am 12:12 am

I hope America is not asleep at the wheel this election as they were in 2004…wake up people! Sarah Palin is the Republican hail mary pass…intercept it lest we be stuck for another 4 years in a downward spiral and once again be the laughing stock of the world.

Posted by: Shirley | September 12, 2008, 12:12 am 12:12 am

SNL is still on? Time flies.

Posted by: Kitty | September 12, 2008, 12:12 am 12:12 am

Funny how Obama derided Hillary Clinton for these types of appearances, then when he saw they were popular, he started doing them.
I thought it was interesting that the great orator wasn’t asked to speak at any of the 9/11 ceremonies – he instead chose to try to get a good laugh on Letterman last night. Personally, I wish he would move permanently to American Idol, SNL and People magazine. He may be celebrity material, but he is not fit to run our country. It seems at least some people are finally starting to see that.

Posted by: Traci | September 12, 2008, 12:13 am 12:13 am

Yes, MM, and every one of those people want something diffrent from Obama. It’s a good thing he’s going to do all that stuff he has planned.

Posted by: Kitty | September 12, 2008, 12:15 am 12:15 am

Even Charlie didn’t get the gist of the doctrine.

Posted by: Kitty | September 12, 2008, 12:17 am 12:17 am

Jake, Palin is not tough, saw her interview, and the rest of the planet is laughing their heads off, she looked lost, the only thing missing was gum chewing….

Posted by: Mark | September 12, 2008, 12:17 am 12:17 am

Kitty
At least Obama has proposed something. What has McCain proposed; “Drill Here, Drill Now”. I guess McCain cares more about oil companies then getting people access to health care. Wait by his definition everybody has health care because of the emergency room.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am

Kitty
Charlie explain the Doctrine to her. The Bush Doctrine is the preemptive war, war on terrorist, no negotiations with dictator policy.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am

A Pew Survey on News Consumption released August 17, 2008 revealed that viewers of The Daily Show and The Colbert Report were more knowledgeable about current events than those who watch Bill O’Reilly, Lou Dobbs, Larry King, and the “average consumers of NBC, ABC, Fox News, CNN, C-SPAN and daily newspapers.”

Posted by: Polderboy | September 12, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am

Why all the fuss America why don’t we just go ahead and vote McCain and continue the slip and slide of the economy. It will be fun for me to watch the faces of people when they behold in incompetense of this old man and his beautiful sidekick. Its fun for me to see and hear the Republicans defend George Bush and the economy. Heaven help us all and save us from the Republicans!

Posted by: Stanley | September 12, 2008, 12:22 am 12:22 am

Why isn’t anyone pointing out that if McCain kicks the bucket Sarah Palin’s vice president will be Nancy Pelosi due to presidential succession? Yes, this evolving drama can get even weirder!

Posted by: tlucian | September 12, 2008, 12:23 am 12:23 am

Its pretty sad that we’ll probably learn more about where Obama stands on the issues from his appearance on SNL than we will from the ‘news’ media.

Posted by: Flash Override | September 12, 2008, 12:23 am 12:23 am

tlucian
That is crazy scary. Palin/Pelosie.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 12:24 am 12:24 am

Republican party=war=bad economy. The Republican party is for the rich and those who pretend to be rich and there are a lot of pretenders in this country and on this blog. All pretense..we pretend that we are the riches country in the world when in fact we owe China and Japan trillions of dollars..The credit card mentality is killing us. If you are rich or pretend to be rich then McCain’s your man. Heaven help us all and save us from the Republicans

Posted by: Stanley | September 12, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am

So much for wanting the emphasis on issues not personalities! So Obama’s star power is eclipsed by Palin, so he heads to SNL for a celebrity boost? I think it would be better to spend time preparing for the debates, then preparing for SNL.

Posted by: anne | September 12, 2008, 12:27 am 12:27 am

Heaven help us all and save us from the Republicans! Please Lord,Please!

Posted by: Stanley | September 12, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am

Tlucian
good point so why are the Obamamaniacs so excercized about Palin… it would be like it was back in Adams time…the truth is they just enjoy his snarky wit and obvious intelligence but that doesnt a president make…we havent had the brightest president the last 8 yrs but he was still president

Posted by: staniam | September 12, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am

I can’t believe what a difference editing makes! I saw the two versions of the Gibson interview that aired at both ABC Nightly News and then the full version on Nightline. What a difference! I thought she looked OK on ABC, but I wished her answers were more in depth. Well, on Nightline, they showed the longer version of her answers. What a difference.
She did fantastic when you see the full version. Charlie asked tough questions but she held her own. I like her even more now.

Posted by: Anne | September 12, 2008, 12:31 am 12:31 am

anne
exactly its a double standard…he was people to only take him seriously as a camndidate for national office and Palin threatens that nevermind their different ideologies

Posted by: staniam | September 12, 2008, 12:33 am 12:33 am

staniam
We are better then the last 8 years. Obama will be a better president then both McCain and Bush. That’s the point of running for President.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 12:34 am 12:34 am

MM
if you self important Obamabots would take time to read history rather than rewrite it you would know about such things… you keep saying Obama is a constitutional scholar so you would leave that to him… it is incumbent on everyone to know how the succession clause in the constitution works before you go into the voting booth rather than relying on the personality of a presidential candidate that you adore but enrages 50 percent of the electorate

Posted by: staniam | September 12, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am

She’ll have achmadinnerjacket for dinner. He’ll be so busy wiping his drool, he won’t be thinking about anything but her. I’d rather watch her on SNL than Obama. I have Obama fatigue.

Posted by: Kitty | September 12, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am

tlucian:
that is incorrect. in the event that the president dies and the vice president becomes the president, he (or she) appoints a new vice president. when lyndon johnson assumed the presidency following the death of john kennedy, the vice presidency remained vacant for two years.
the speaker of the house succeeds as president only upon the death of both the president and vice president.

Posted by: John | September 12, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am

staniam
Don’t try to lecture me on the constitution after what the Republican administration has done to the constitution.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 12:40 am 12:40 am

Countries with the most Nuclear Weapons
Rank Country Number of warheads
1 Russia 28,240
2 United States 12,070
3 France 510
4 China 425
5 United Kingdom 400
6 Israel uncertain
7 India uncertain
8 Pakistan uncertain
Source: BBC
__ ____ _____
I think sarah thins Russia is just another Iraq .
watching her with these deer in headlite looks at the questions was painful.

Posted by: john | September 12, 2008, 12:43 am 12:43 am

staniam, john
You guys fail to realize what “Kick the Bucket means” Let me spell it out for you. If McCain dies in office, VP Palin becomes President, and Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosie becomes Vice President. That clause is in the constitution. Therefore the Palin/Pelosie administration.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 12:44 am 12:44 am

MM
the slogan “four years better than the last eight” is patently dumb and dead in the water… Mccain succeeded in defining himself as not Bush and for that you are scared to death!

Posted by: stanaim | September 12, 2008, 12:44 am 12:44 am

Did you know you can actually see Russia from Alaska?
Phew.
I can see her on that island in the Bering Street, yelling at Putin: “Yooohoooo, I can SEEEEEE you”

Posted by: Polderboy | September 12, 2008, 12:44 am 12:44 am

SNL will fit Obama’s perfectly because of his fake character. In fact I am beginning to think that he’s faker than fake because at the very least fake has a word to describe it.

Posted by: country voter | September 12, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am

john “I think sarah thins Russia is just another Iraq .”
More like a Moose-hunt.

Posted by: Polderboy | September 12, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am

What does the 25th amendment say?

Posted by: Kitty | September 12, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am

MM
actually if you recall when FDR died Truman became president and he picked his VP… succession only has to do with the president… in the old days when there was just the electoral college nbot popular vote the candidate who was second became VP… so you are wrong in that point…

Posted by: staniam | September 12, 2008, 12:47 am 12:47 am

stanaim
1. You got the slogan wrong.
2. It is true – you even admitted it.
3. McCain votes 90% with Bush – hardly a maverick, for the surge, still against withdrawal, voted against GI Bill … You know what I concede the point. McCain is not Bush; he is worse than Bush.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 12:48 am 12:48 am

Polderboy. No, I didn’t know you could actually see Russia from Alaska. I am already learnig from the future VP. I mean, I knew Alaska was way up there, but I didn’t know we were close enough to see.

Posted by: Kitty | September 12, 2008, 12:52 am 12:52 am

It says if something happened to the president, the vp becomes president, then the president gets to select a vp. so, the only way it would be palin/pelosi is if palin was cooky enough to pick that whack job.

Posted by: Kitty | September 12, 2008, 12:54 am 12:54 am

Kitty
True but that pick has to be approved by a Congressional vote therefor the vacancy will be pass to the Speaker of the House to act as acting Vice President until the VP Pick is approved.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am

Kitty
True but that pick has to be approved by a Congressional vote therefor the vacancy will be pass to the Speaker of the House to act as acting Vice President until the VP Pick is approved.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 12:58 am 12:58 am

MM:
Are you kidding me? Check out the U.S. Constitution (Article 2, Section 1) and the 25th Amendment. Both are pretty clear.
Any succession where the Speaker of the House would assume the Presidency (she can not assume the Vice Presidency unless appointed) would only arise if BOTH the President and Vice President “kicked the bucket.”

Posted by: John | September 12, 2008, 12:59 am 12:59 am

Country voter
I was willing to keep an Open mind about Obama since he is the nominee but I can tell bs when I see it and when someone tries to do that to people its like fingers on a blackboard to me

Posted by: staniam | September 12, 2008, 12:59 am 12:59 am

Well it”s blatantly obvious that Palin does not have the tools for VP. I have nothing against her at all. But the fact is she reminds me of my next door neighbor.
Decent person, but nothing exceptional about her. She is in WAY over her head. This isn”t a position for the average person. And it”s clear the Palin is quite average.
Anyone who votes for that ticket now, is simply voting because of their own ignorance.

Posted by: marty | September 12, 2008, 12:59 am 12:59 am

Obama has been reaching out to the America people this week with interviews on Fox news, a fourth of their viewers are independents, also the mainstream audience with This Week With George Stephanopoulos. SNL should be a fun one to watch which targets a younger audience as well as those that grew up with it.
Whats interesting is that McCain hasn’t really spoken to the media since mid August. Palins is doing her one interview special. They both need to reach out to the voters through the mainstream media as well, not just the conservative ones. Unless Schmit wants to protect his lead right through to the election.
SNL, the Jon Stewart show and Steve Colbert report when it comes to political humor are the Will Rodgers of our time. They are not entertainment-related tabloid nonsense. Also a nice tidbit about Will Rodgers is hes part Cherokee and influenced many of the political humorists of our time.

Posted by: Cooday | September 12, 2008, 1:02 am 1:02 am

John
25th Ammendment Section 4

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 1:06 am 1:06 am

MM
I dont weven have to look at the 25th amendment to know that the the speaker would not become president unless the Pres and VP are incompacitated.. if the VP becomes president they get to chose their vp it could be the speaker but doesnt have to be

Posted by: stanaim | September 12, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am

staniam
I sort of hard to get out a war when the president promises to continue a war without funding. The Majority was 51 majority meaning that Congress is essentially in a stalemate. Also the republicans hold the record this congress for most filibusters. Filibuster prevents votes and slows down Congress – - The do nothing congress.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 1:11 am 1:11 am

marty
ignorance is not the issue her its principle in that Obama is more tied to lobbyists and inner workings of washington than Palin and even mccain are… thats why its foolish for Obama to even mention Palins name… you people will carry this out and be dissapointed with the result but that is your plight!

Posted by: staniam | September 12, 2008, 1:12 am 1:12 am

MM:
25th Amendment, Section 4 in entirety:
“Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.”
I am VERY interested to see how you interpret that as meaning that the Speaker of the House can somehow become “acting” Vice President.

Posted by: John | September 12, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am

MM:
25th Amendment, Section 4:
“Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.”
I am VERY interested to see how you interpret that as meaning that the Speaker of the House can somehow become “acting” Vice President.

Posted by: John | September 12, 2008, 1:14 am 1:14 am

stanaim
I wasn’t even talking about Pelosie becoming the president so the succession is mute. The issue is the vacancy of the Vice Presidential. The new President does appoint the new President but until Congress approves the new Pick the VP slot goes to the speaker as (acting).

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 1:14 am 1:14 am

MM
the couldve done something… they promised to cut off funding if thats what it took they did have the votes its that members… ssometimes even democrats put in poison pills to kill their own amendments… Obama was doing what was poltically expedient… you have no argument…furthermore.. my congressman Heath Shuler will be re-elected because he stands up to both parties… we need a new framework where we go back to how they did it in the 18th and 19th century… you cannot deny that Obama has more lobbyists working for him… that is a fact

Posted by: staniam | September 12, 2008, 1:16 am 1:16 am

MM
nope you just wrong I wasnt saying you said that Pelosi would become president I said that the person that bnecomes president gets to pick the vp and the senate confirmation is largely perfuctory… you just need to come back to earth like Obama has been made to do and make rational realistic decisions in this election… Obamas constituiency… Younger people and african americans will not dictate to the rest oft he electorate who becomes president or how they do it… you have to follow FEC rules period! thats why Axelrod cant do anythign about palin so far… he cant manipulate the system as usual!

Posted by: staniam | September 12, 2008, 1:20 am 1:20 am

John
MM is wrong… your are technicallly acting VP until you are approved by the senate but in a time of national crisis the congressional leaders would not oppose a new presidents pick!

Posted by: staniam | September 12, 2008, 1:22 am 1:22 am

Well then I apologize and concede the point. The Speaker can only succeed and act as President rather then VP.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 1:23 am 1:23 am

Have you been on People.com? Have you seen how many McCain/Cindy McCain/Palin/Palin family entries there are? As well as Michelle Obama/Obama entries too.
Obama and Biden had their first joint interview there and then McCain and Palin followed with the same.
I think advertising to those audiences is smart, so long as you talk about the issues at least partly while you’re there and allow others to become familiarized with you, which is what Obama/Biden did on their interview.
It’s all about introducing yourself to voters, and no doubt, introducing yourself to the masses interested in the entertainment world and not so much in politics, and who vote, is smart.
It’s when politics and issues are turned into entertainment and tabloid tidbits and soap operas that there is a problem.
So I disagree with your link about Obama’s complaints about tabloidizing issues and his choice, or McCain/Palin’s choice, to introduce themselves to viewers via outlets such as these: I see the two things as distinct.

Posted by: Forster | September 12, 2008, 1:23 am 1:23 am

McCain’s campaign has jumped the barracuda.
It is no more.
It is deceased.
It is a dead campaign.
It is pushing up daisies.
SAY GOODNIGHT, JOHN!
Buh-bye.

Posted by: Ed from MA | September 12, 2008, 1:24 am 1:24 am

Kitty
It appeared to me she just has a partial dental plate ;) I have been watching her on c-span before that and the clicking and smacking sounds indicates that… not to mention her family effectively helped W get elected since her daughter did that documentary on his campaign plane in 2000 so they are all complicit we need a dratic break from the current cronyism system that protects both parties

Posted by: staniam | September 12, 2008, 1:25 am 1:25 am

John
MM is wrong… your are technicallly acting VP until you are approved by the senate but in a time of national crisis the congressional leaders would not oppose a new presidents pick!
—————————————–
NO I am completely wrong. Speaker cannot be VP, and congress will oppose a stupid Pick.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 1:25 am 1:25 am

Ed, can you site your source?

Posted by: Kitty | September 12, 2008, 1:26 am 1:26 am

staniam
I have a nutcracker of a question. Barr was the first to apply to be put on the Texas ballot. Obama did his after the Convention the day before the deadline. If McCain excepts the nomination a week latter how is he still on the Texas Ballot?

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am

staniam
Ed heard Palin confuse Bush Doctrine with Bush’s world view. That sound is louder then cats screaming while walking on a chalk board.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 1:30 am 1:30 am

MM
I have a question for you…if the3re are 4 recognizeable candidates well 5 if you count the nut cynthia mckinney… how do you expect Obama to win in a landslide and even for him to get a plurality… at this point the winner of the election will get much less than 50 percent…. Bill Clinton got 42 percent to Bushes 38 in 92 so your in deep trouble!

Posted by: staniam | September 12, 2008, 1:30 am 1:30 am

staniam
The landslide wouldn’t be how many electoral. The landslide would be the additional legislatures to make Congress a bigger majority. But still another question why do republicans voter cage in Ohio.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 1:33 am 1:33 am

MM
the Bush Doctrine was so named by the media that felt guilty for aiding and abetting the president after Iraq was such a disaster.. to protect themselves its silly even to bring that up… you are just scared that Obamas convention was pretty much muted the day after it was over till now

Posted by: staniam | September 12, 2008, 1:33 am 1:33 am

The way the Repubs talk about Sarah Palin’s interview reminds me of MICHAEL Palin (Monty Python) with his dead parrot.
“It’s just sleepin”
“It’s pinin for the fjords”
NO IT’S NOT. IT’S DEAD.
FACE IT Y’ALL: McCAIN BLEW IT.

Posted by: Ed from MA | September 12, 2008, 1:33 am 1:33 am

MM
I think the lates polls have Obama leading in OHio and I was talkign about popular vote and if Obama wins by less of a margin in popular vote and less than 50 percent he will be just liek Bush under attack even before he takes office

Posted by: staniam | September 12, 2008, 1:35 am 1:35 am

staniam
The first thing I thought when we invaded Iraq was, Why – Aren’t we still in Afghanistan fighting the terrorist? Every President has a Doctrine with respect to Foreign Policy. This has been the defining policy of Bush; The Bush Doctrine.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 1:35 am 1:35 am

MM, what is the Bush doctrine in one sentence?

Posted by: Kitty | September 12, 2008, 1:36 am 1:36 am

jackt51
so you admit Obamas first comment that set it off was planned and he intended turn the palin lipstick on a pitbull thing on its head… talk about being hypocritical… Im not even an extemist… there will be a wave of people that will laugh him out of washington… 2 yrs from now guaranteed Obama will be bck in Il a laughing stock.. he will resign from the senate because his purpose wasnt served

Posted by: staniam | September 12, 2008, 1:38 am 1:38 am

staniam
Ohio – Bush voter caged in Ohio. I think most polls underestimate Obama’s numbers because they don’t include newly registered voters. Obama has proven to get out the vote and hopefully the Diebolds will not mysteriously malfunction again. And what ever happen to McCain 10 pt lead. It plummeted to 5 pts in less then a week.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 1:38 am 1:38 am

Kitty
Bush Doctrine is the policy of preemption of war in the case of defense, no negotiations with dictators, or extremist government leaders, and the war on terrorism.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 1:41 am 1:41 am

MM
the reason we left afganistan was that Bush convened National security meetings the first week of his administration to find ways to attack Iraq…. and 9/11 served his purpose but he had to go to afganistan first..Obama never acted on anything about Iraq he made a speech in 2002 and since then in the senate has voted for final passage of all the presidents bills

Posted by: staniam | September 12, 2008, 1:41 am 1:41 am

Kitty
I forgot unilateralism.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 1:42 am 1:42 am

staniam
Those bills included funding and body armor for the troops. And Obama did propose the timetables for withdrawal.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 1:44 am 1:44 am

MM
I dont knpw where you get those numbers.. I read lots of thigns everyday and I have read from serveral sources that the DNC-Obama fundraising is down and Mcains is up and the younger people have backed off of Obama because he is indixating he wont be exteme change like they woant but more of a centrist… I guess they are naieve because any fool knows you have to go to the center to win an election

Posted by: staniam | September 12, 2008, 1:45 am 1:45 am

MM but he voted for final passage to say you included a provision in a bill that may or may not be voted down b efore final passage does not mean you authored the bill

Posted by: stanam | September 12, 2008, 1:47 am 1:47 am

staniam
First of all DNC numbers are always lower then RNC numbers. Obama fundraising numbers are still on pace. Also DNC has registered over 2 million new voters. The RNC has lost about 300 thousand.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 1:47 am 1:47 am

Kitty
What was your point? That I know the Bush doctrine and Palin doesn’t..

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 1:49 am 1:49 am

stanam
Your saying final passage. Of what. Which bill.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 1:50 am 1:50 am

MM, DEMS need to register lots more voters. Believe it or not, there are many people who don’t vet the candidates until around now. Hillary tried to get people to do the research, but she wasn’t able to get them to do it. As more people see the inexusable way Obama behaved, they will either go for Mccain or stay home.

Posted by: Kitty | September 12, 2008, 1:50 am 1:50 am

Electoral-vote.com has Obama down to 273 electoral votes which means he wins but you people were saying he would have way over 300 at the dem convention lol

Posted by: stanaim | September 12, 2008, 1:50 am 1:50 am

Kitty
Hillary did the vetting. Palin needs 18 months of vetting in 60 days. Of course it is going to be harsh.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 1:52 am 1:52 am

stanaim
The race is still young. 300 is an achievable number.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 1:53 am 1:53 am

Kitty
absoutely… people like the smarmy Donna Brazille trumpetted Obama in the primaries and like Babe Ruth for the yankees she said what she was goign to do in the rules comittee in June and did it… she alone is responsible for Bush winning in 2000 so thats a little arrogance at work

Posted by: stanaim | September 12, 2008, 1:53 am 1:53 am

Let’s end all of the socialism rhetoric. Our government has a job to do, one they have not done in 8 years–TAKE CARE OF HOME FIRST.Why are so many ill informed number crunching ANTI-OBAMITES willing to over look the billions we are spending in our war budget, billions on international aid abroad as well as the 1 billion Condi delivered to Georgia. But somehow Obama, by giving the middle class a tax break and restoring funding for federal programs and having the insight to create a better America should be seen as BRILLIANT DOMESTIC POLICY that will replenish us not deplete us which is exactly opposite of what has transpired over an 8 year period.

Posted by: clarity | September 12, 2008, 1:54 am 1:54 am

MM
my point is he was at 340 something before the convention… the closer you get to the election the electoral numbers should go up so you have a problem… he may win but its not certain liek you thought… kindof Obamas magic wand comment to Oreilly… hes not superhuman after all just a poltician

Posted by: stanaim | September 12, 2008, 1:56 am 1:56 am

Kitty
I meant isn’t instead of is.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 1:56 am 1:56 am

MM
but bush didnt actually sign anything to law and congress didnt vett him on the Iraq war… he did it by executive order… those other things became law

Posted by: staniam | September 12, 2008, 1:57 am 1:57 am

stanaim
Dems weren’t 340 before the convention. Look at Realclearpolitics they’re more accurate.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 1:57 am 1:57 am

clarity
Obama saying he can give a tax break is not necessarily doing it since hes a politician modeled after GW bush hich is indesputable… hes more conservative than Bush is… and going to the center to get elected

Posted by: stanaim | September 12, 2008, 2:00 am 2:00 am

staniam
The executive order came after Congress approved the authorization of force. The law in it self was unconstitutional and should of been declared so by the Justice department via separation of powers in the constitution.
By the way that was a Republican Congress.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 2:01 am 2:01 am

stanaim
I never thought I see the day when your only argument left is that Obama is Bush. ha Ha HA.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 2:02 am 2:02 am

Nope MM, if you remember 60 days into Obama and almsot everyone was still in the dark about him. He was teh Messiah. Now, he’s the popular kid from high school who works at the car wash (i read that someowhere and thought it was so funny i rmembered it). Palin is still untouchable on that front. Those of us whe weren;t enamored with Obama remember this phase of his beginning. It’s a repaet.

Posted by: Kitty | September 12, 2008, 2:03 am 2:03 am

Kitty
I was wrong on the Speaker Vp thing I admitted it. But your wrong to say that I think I’m smart. Well since you have the internet go to that link about the Bush Doctrine. The bottom of the page list other Doctrine by other Presidents as well.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 2:05 am 2:05 am

MM thats not my only argument but the kind of arrogant pontificating he does is exactly the way Bush put down Gore in 2000 now you people are reattled by someone like palin saying what they think and find that shes more popular than Obama or Mccain just deal with it now because you will have to after the election..everyone is saying Obama is Dukkakis now… I guess you dont remember that time so you cant reference it

Posted by: stanaim | September 12, 2008, 2:06 am 2:06 am

Kitty
That is incomparable. Obama was popular when first ran but no one gave him a chance against Hillary. Palin just got thrown in at the last minute 60 days before the election.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 2:07 am 2:07 am

stanaim
Bush ran the wolves ad. McCain ran the wolves ad. Actions speak louder then words and in this case your wrong. McCain has been running his camp more in lockstep with Bush. Bush didn’t try and register people. Obama did. So your argument has so many holes it’s swiss.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 2:09 am 2:09 am

What this is your report for tonight Jake?
You guys just had a Candidate for the VP who did not know what the bush doctrine was, and said we m,ave have to go to war with Russia, over Georgia, after we get them into NATO over the objections of the rest of NATO.
Are you nuts? Every politician goes on SNL this isn’t news, Even McCain been there.
God you guys wonder why the press gets it but kicked now and again?

Posted by: Thinking | September 12, 2008, 2:11 am 2:11 am

Kitty
these people have just been kept in a bubble about anything other than Obama and thats the real danger for them

Posted by: staniam | September 12, 2008, 2:11 am 2:11 am

Kitty
I read this from you. Just because there are facts doesn’t mean it is true. Most modern President have a Doctrine. Bush Doctrine is a fact not an opinion.
You can go down that road if you want.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 2:13 am 2:13 am

MM, many of those people who are newly registered are not going to vote for Obama. WHen someone registers you from the Obama people, they will register you as a democrat (you know they will). That doesn’t mean those newly registered voters are goin to vote for Obama.

Posted by: Kitty | September 12, 2008, 2:13 am 2:13 am

staniam
No bubble for me. I like republicans, they make good friends. That doesn’t mean I can’t disagree with them.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 2:14 am 2:14 am

MM
but Mccain has a different personality than Bush .. Obama has the same cocky Harvard educated attitide as Bush and you see where that got us…you know they are looking at what was successful poltically for Bush because they think if he can get elected they can…

Posted by: stanaim | September 12, 2008, 2:15 am 2:15 am

Kitty
When you sign up to register. There are boxes for party affiliation. Obama people just don’t go and checking registration form Democrat that is against the law.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 2:16 am 2:16 am

MM
they are being questioned about the way they register people… like they got people to caucus for Obama in TX because no Clinton people showed up to sign people in… it may not be illegal but its underhanded…

Posted by: staniam | September 12, 2008, 2:20 am 2:20 am

MM, this is the real world. if someone touting BO comes to the door and convinces you to register, most people will probably register as democrat while to Obama person is standing right there. What I am saying is those very people will then vet the candidate and many will not vote for him.

Posted by: Kitty | September 12, 2008, 2:20 am 2:20 am

but Mccain has a different personality than Bush .. Obama has the same cocky Harvard educated attitide as Bush and you see where that got us…you know they are looking at what was successful poltically for Bush because they think if he can get elected they can…
Posted by: stanaim | Sep 12, 2008 2:15:15 AM
Bush went to Yale and was a C student. And love to Party. Bush also came from rich oil money. Obama went to Harvard and graduated Magna Cum Laude. Obama went to school on scholarships and once had to live on food stamps. Bush arrogant yes. Obama arrogant no.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 2:21 am 2:21 am

lol MM yes, like the obama people would NEVER break the law. lol lol that’s funny

Posted by: Kitty | September 12, 2008, 2:23 am 2:23 am

Kitty
Now you are arguing that Obama didn’t register as many people as he thinks. Well guess what. Explain the Republicans taking the time out of there busy schedules to leave the Republican party.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 2:23 am 2:23 am

MM
all that stuff is inaccurate he was on foodstamps but not very long… Gore went to Yale CLintons went to Yale… Bush went to Harvard Business school… that is a fact .. you have to look at and footnote information that is not just included in links from Obamas website… its too transparent if you dont!

Posted by: staniam | September 12, 2008, 2:23 am 2:23 am

staniam, Kitty
God Forbid, more people get registered to vote. Oh no the Democrats are registering people, lets find a way to attack it. Democracy is at it’s best when people get involved and vote.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 2:25 am 2:25 am

MM
I personally called and registered several thousand people in NC in 2006 and in the primaries … IM not going to do a thing for the GE no money sent or anything… there are lots more like me… we will not do it because of Obama period!

Posted by: staniam | September 12, 2008, 2:26 am 2:26 am

MM here’s a fact for you. Peolpe think Obama is very arrogant. It’s all I hear whenever I talk to people who aren’t afraid to speak out about him. I’d even bet that there are a lot fo people who still say they are voting for Obama just so they aren’t called racist. It’s just easier to speak at the voting booth. I am looking forward to election day. It’s going to be fun to watch.

Posted by: Kitty | September 12, 2008, 2:26 am 2:26 am

NO, MM Obama can add up all teh newly registered people. I’m not disputing he has had a massive new registered voter tally. I’m saying as more time goes by and those people find out who he is, they will not pull the lever for him.

Posted by: Kitty | September 12, 2008, 2:28 am 2:28 am

Kitty
The only people that cry racism are the people running against Barack. No one really thinks anyone running is racist.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 2:28 am 2:28 am

Kitty at the very least it wont be a landslide for Obama like they say and prob more towards a squeaker for Mccain they are scared they wouldnt be on here if they werent

Posted by: staniam | September 12, 2008, 2:29 am 2:29 am

staniam
Why not Obama question mark?

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 2:29 am 2:29 am

staniam
So you are not voting for Obama because it is not going to be a landslide victory.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 2:31 am 2:31 am

MM, I’m going to guess that I’m older than you and know a wider variety of people, and i can tell you this: free speech has suffered from this whole Obama fiasco. There are lots of people who are not racist but will not speak out about Obama becasue they do not want to defend themsleves against this charge. I know this for A FACT.

Posted by: Kitty | September 12, 2008, 2:33 am 2:33 am

MM
Bush graduated from Harvard … wikipedia is frequently wrong because anyone can edit it

Posted by: staniam | September 12, 2008, 2:34 am 2:34 am

Palin has gotten into Obama’s head. If he were smart he would not be playing his silly word games. He is arrogant and a bully. He will not win–look at his demeanor he is angry. He is not the pleasant eloquent speaker he thought he was–he is done!

Posted by: Bonnie | September 12, 2008, 2:37 am 2:37 am

staniam
We’re both right he graduated from Yale and Harvard.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 2:38 am 2:38 am

stanaim
I am no more wrong now to decide now then you are to decide latter.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 2:39 am 2:39 am

MM. I’m not afraid. I wear my Mccain tshirt and I’m proud. I would get a yard sign but I have to figure out where to put it so it won’t get stolen. People don’t want to be bothered with defending themselves. They’ll just go vote.

Posted by: Kitty | September 12, 2008, 2:39 am 2:39 am

Kitty
That is not what I meant and you know it.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 2:40 am 2:40 am

Bonnie
yep he made that lipstick comment because he is weary of not havign everything handed to him … the clintons are sincerely trying to help out but even they cabnt save him now

Posted by: staniam | September 12, 2008, 2:40 am 2:40 am

staniam
He made those comments because people actually use the phrase. McCain even used it. NO ONE cried sexism when McCain used it against Clinton. The whole argument is Hypocritical.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 2:42 am 2:42 am

MM, I would agree with you but I have no idea waht you are referring to. what did you not mean that i thought you meant? lol it’s late i need to go to sleep

Posted by: Kitty | September 12, 2008, 2:42 am 2:42 am

Take 5 minutes and 2 seconds of your life and view the following you-tube video. In it, you can hear very grave warnings from REPUBLICANS and MILITARY men, warning you for a McCain Administration and the consequences that it would probably have.
View it, and think about it, when you pull that lever on Election Day.
ABC does not allow to paste a direct link: go to you-tube and search for “Republicans and military men on John McCain”

Posted by: Polderboy | September 12, 2008, 2:42 am 2:42 am

MM
but to say thats not what you meant when you actually did mean it that way is un american…this election will not be decided by shrill leftist professors and younger people thats all his pig comment played to

Posted by: staniam | September 12, 2008, 2:44 am 2:44 am

We’re really using the phrase around our house now. It’s going to be a pop culture thing now. Everywhere you go, people will be talking about lipstick and pigs. Read my lipstick: no new pigs. We jsut make stuff up all day long. It’s relaly been fun, and I’m glad Obama said it and I’m glad Mccain people made a mountain out of a molehill.

Posted by: Kitty | September 12, 2008, 2:45 am 2:45 am

staniam
You know what Obama meant, and it had nothing to do with sexism.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 2:45 am 2:45 am

Polderboy
if Mccain gets in and theres a draft …. the young people that oppose mccain wouldnt not only be obligated to go they deserve to!

Posted by: staniam | September 12, 2008, 2:46 am 2:46 am

Kitty
The worse apart it is that none of this is close to the issues. During this debate Banks got taken over by the government, and 4200 people lost their jobs.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 2:47 am 2:47 am

MM
It had to do with Palin.. because he mentioned her by name after that and the crowd knew what he was saying… hes not anything special just someone trying gert elected and for the first time in this election season he will ave to work for it… god forbid!

Posted by: staniam | September 12, 2008, 2:48 am 2:48 am

staniam
I guess you haven’t seen the clip. He was referring to Bush policy. Even crazy O’Reilly said that it wasn’t aimed at Palin.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 2:49 am 2:49 am

Kitty
we are too…and thats exactly what they are going to lead with on SNL…. too bad they will have to be diplomatic with Obama appearing on the show

Posted by: staniam | September 12, 2008, 2:50 am 2:50 am

staniam
He also talked about fish right after. Did he call Palin a smelly fish also.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 2:50 am 2:50 am

MM, nad here’s the deal. The notion that BO is going to ride in and wave his magic Obama wand and fix all these things you mentioned is not rooted in logic. it’s rooted in wishful thinking. So those of us who know presidents don’t really control all of that, we focus on character. Hence, I’m voting McCain.

Posted by: Kitty | September 12, 2008, 2:52 am 2:52 am

MM
I have seen it but he was using inuendo so the crowd would react and even editorials are saying Obama tried to turn the Pitbull in lipstick coment on its head.. the point is he is incredibly smart to be doign a dumb thing by taking Palin on directly

Posted by: staniam | September 12, 2008, 2:52 am 2:52 am

staniam: even O’Reilly thinks McCain was being silly.
And that says it all.

Posted by: Polderboy | September 12, 2008, 2:53 am 2:53 am

No MM, as Obama stated on letterman, he would have been calling Palin the lipstick and Mccain is the smelly fish.

Posted by: Kitty | September 12, 2008, 2:54 am 2:54 am

MM
well the conventional wisdom is he was referrign to mccain… and he repeatedf it on latterman that night after it became embarrassing

Posted by: staniam | September 12, 2008, 2:55 am 2:55 am

Kitty, watch that video “Republicans and military men on John McCain” I mentioned and see if you still are comfortable waging McCain’s magic wand.
Know what you vote for when you vote for McCain.
Listen carefully to what Scott Ritter has to say. VERY very carefully.

Posted by: Polderboy | September 12, 2008, 2:56 am 2:56 am

Kitty
Us Obamabots never thought Obama would enact everything on the first day. We need a majority Congress for that.
staniam
So you agree he wasn’t attacking her gender. Just position her as Bush in sheep’s clothing.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 2:56 am 2:56 am

Bottom line is he blew the joke. It wasn’t funny the way he said it. Then again, he’s never been known to have a sense of humor.

Posted by: Kitty | September 12, 2008, 2:57 am 2:57 am

MM
it was calculated by the Obama campaign to use that there is no question abotu that now… to say he didnt mean that then on letterman to say that what he wouldve meant is the same

Posted by: staniam | September 12, 2008, 2:58 am 2:58 am

Kitty
Listen to the Letterman interview again. He was saying using McCain’s logic Palin was the lipstick and McCain was the fish.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 2:58 am 2:58 am

Kitty
Not true – he used humor in South Carolina Primary.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 2:59 am 2:59 am

yes…. Obama doesnt have a sense of humor! that is typical of college professor types…this campaign cant be about issues because Obama himself is preventing it from being that way!

Posted by: staniam | September 12, 2008, 3:00 am 3:00 am

Polderboy, I’ve already made up my mind. I was for Obama like white on rice. Then I realized who he is and what kind of world I would be leaving my child if I particiopated in electing him. I was distraught for a long time. But that was a long time ago. I got off his bandwagon in 2007. I guess you could say i realized he was just a pig with big lipstick.

Posted by: Kitty | September 12, 2008, 3:00 am 3:00 am

When Fix news says “wait a minute, this is not true” to Republicans. You know it is a fake controversy.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 3:01 am 3:01 am

MM
saying that he was using Palins logic … hes still transferring the analogy directly to himself

Posted by: staniam | September 12, 2008, 3:01 am 3:01 am

Kitty, staniam
Obama has been talking about the issues. The news just stop covering them. Obama has been talking about the issues 45 minutes every stop. McCain and Palin only talk about the issues 10 to 15 minutes each. Who’s campaign is really about the issues?
I have follow Obama since the Beginning of the campaign and I am proud to say he has run a camp I would like to be proud of. It may not be perfect but it is better then the alternative. I would rather lose the election with Obama then win with McCain character assassinations.

Posted by: MM | September 12, 2008, 3:05 am 3:05 am

MM, your issues and my issues are different. Mine take less time to talk about. Plus Obama does use a lot fo extra words that aren’t really needed.

Posted by: Kitty | September 12, 2008, 3:08 am 3:08 am

Then you can send your kids to the wars McCain is itching to start.
And in the words of Scott Ritter: “Pick your city, tell me which one you want gone: Seattle? LA? Boston? New York? Miami? Pick one! Because at least one’s going!”

Posted by: Polderboy | September 12, 2008, 3:09 am 3:09 am

Polderboy, who is this Scott Ritter person, and why would you listen to such an alarmest?

Posted by: Kitty | September 12, 2008, 3:11 am 3:11 am

Scott Ritter is THE Republican and Military man who has an in depth knowledge of the Muslim world.
He was one of several authorities who have predicted EVERYTHING that was going to happen and NOT going to happen when the US would invade Iraq.
He was part of the Weapons Inspections Teams in the 90s and has been dealing with Afghanistan, Iraq and Iran from the late 80s.

Posted by: Polderboy | September 12, 2008, 3:23 am 3:23 am

Kitty: “why would you listen to such an alarmest?”
That’s what people said in 2002 too. Scott was proven to be right, they were wrong.

Posted by: Polderboy | September 12, 2008, 3:25 am 3:25 am

Jake, I am confident that you would know that People Magazine is in the same genre as Access Hollywood, Entertainment Tonight, Inside Edition, ect., and these media sources are for entertainment. Therefore, he is not complaining about them.
He is really complaining about press and news sources like ABC, CBS, NBC, Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, CNN, FOX, MSNBC, etc, that prefer their nothingness type of fake journalism, erroring on the side of journalistic ethics by airing irrevelant **** like lipstick on the pig fake controversies.
Let People do the tabloid stuff, and ABC and the rest do report on news adhering to ethical journalism standards, like they are suppose to. He is just saying “do your job!”

Posted by: duh | September 12, 2008, 4:31 am 4:31 am

What other tough woman has Obama faced other than Clinton? Certainly not Palin, the who lacks confidence to stand before the media without hand holding, raising the sexist stereotype of women always needing to be protected and cannot stand on their own. Palin, is weak and needs men to protect her from the big bad press. She is too weak when confronted, only appears to be strong when she uses her position to bully and intimidate people out of their jobs. Hillary is the only tough one because she always faced her critics and the media head on like a real woman.

Posted by: weak | September 12, 2008, 4:40 am 4:40 am

Not blinking is also an attribute that could be given to a deer in the headlights, or perhaps a moose in the sights of Ms. Palin’s gun. Neither of these would make a good candidate a few of John McBush’s heartbeats away from the presidency, nor would this misguided and crazed idiot from Frostbite Falls that has been put on the national scene.
Jerry w

Posted by: jerry w | September 12, 2008, 4:48 am 4:48 am

I am a Republican and even I can’t get behind Palin. She is WAY out of her league. She looked really foolish with that interview. You can tell she had NO idea of what she’s talking about. The most she knows about Russia is that she can Russia on a clear day from Alaska. DUH!! I not saying she’s not a nice lady I’m just saying she’s DEFINITELY NOT prepared or qualified to be the President.

Posted by: Yes Yes Yall | September 12, 2008, 4:58 am 4:58 am

Obama should do well – he’s always good with a script (cue cards, teleprompters). Just hope his writers give hime something funny.
They should avoid down-home sayings, he always comes off badly… like the lipstick thing. He was trying to be cleaver and over-reached. If it’s comedy, he should stick to dry, straight-man stuff. He’s awfulwith zingers so he needs to avoid it.
Maybe a sequence where he talks about lipstick with Miss Piggy!

Posted by: diamond lou | September 12, 2008, 5:02 am 5:02 am

Does anyone actually believe the yellow-journalism attack ads used by this network are going to stick to Palin? Look at the “news stories” put out there. If they are competing with the National Enquirer for tacky, specious reporting, then maybe we should be blogging on the Enquirer’s website.

Posted by: CentristbyChoice | September 12, 2008, 5:19 am 5:19 am

She has 30 Rock do it if you must but I think we will be seeing the last of Sarah on the 4th of Nov.

Posted by: musicpromo1 | September 12, 2008, 5:35 am 5:35 am

Obama is losing it.
He’s not in the spotlight anymore.
He can’t brag about change, he’s far from it.
He can’t brag about experience, he doesn’t have it.
He can’t talk about his religious beliefs because of Reverend Wright.
He can’t mention his middle name because it’s Hussein.
He can’t talk about Military experience because he never served.
Obama is scared of losing. I was more frieghtened of him winning.
Pray McCain/Palin wins. We need experience first.

Posted by: Al from NJ | September 12, 2008, 5:41 am 5:41 am

Al from N
Q: Let ‘s move on to what you say is the number one issue facing the United States in our time. And that is the challenge of addressing Islamist extremism. What credentials does Gov. Palin have — in national security, diplomacy, foreign policy — that qualify her to be your partner in that, on that issue: the fight against Islamic extremism?
McCain: Well, obviously the economy is also a major challenge facing America.
Q: No, I’m using your words, Senator McCain, you have said, this summer…
McCain: No, I said…
Q: That the number one challenge of our time is Islamic extremism…
McCain: No, I said the greatest challenge of our time is national security threats. I’ve also said that jobs and the economy are the number one issue facing America.
McCain: So, ah, but the point is Governor Palin was right on the issues. She understands energy, which is one of the fundamental issues of our national security. She was responsible for a $40 billion pipeline that’s gonna bring natural gas to the lower 48.
*But as the New York Times reported yesterday, “the pipeline exists only on paper.” And though Palin has thus far proved adept at “attracting developers to a project that has eluded Alaska governors for three decades … Ms. Palin has overstated both the progress that has been made and the certainty of success.”*
McCain: She knows more about energy than probably anybody else in the Unites States. She is governor of a state [pause] that 20 percent of America’s energy supply comes from there.
*Leave aside the wildly overstated assertion that Palin is America’s top expert on energy. McCain also claimed that the state produces “20 percent of America’s energy supply,” which is just wrong.
In 2005, Alaska produced 3.5 percent of America’s energy supply.*
Individually, these were perhaps all minor flubs. But taken in total, they suggested a patten of lies or untruths.

Posted by: Deb | September 12, 2008, 5:53 am 5:53 am

Actress, reality tv star and PETA activist Pamela Anderson is no fan of Sarah Palin. The Canadian-turned-American citizen was asked if she she’d seen the photo of VP candidate Sarah Palin, a proud hunter, with an animal fur in the background Anderson let loose.
“I can’t stand her,” Pam blurted out.

Posted by: Deb | September 12, 2008, 5:58 am 5:58 am

PALIN TALKS ABOUT INVADING RUSSIA
US-RUSSIA WAR OVER GEORGIA MAY BE NECESSARY…
DOESN’T KNOW WHAT BUSH DOCTRINE IS…
ABC’s Gibson: What Are Your National Security Credentials…?
My National Security Credentials Have To Do With Energy…
VOTE MCCAIN/PALIN IF YOU OWN A BOMB SHELTER!
BOMB IRAN BOMB RUSSIA!! RUSSIA CAN BOMB BACK !!!

Posted by: Deb | September 12, 2008, 6:06 am 6:06 am

FORT WAINWRIGHT, Alaska, Sept. 11 — Gov. Sarah Palin linked the war in Iraq with the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, telling an Iraq-bound brigade of soldiers that included her son that they would “defend the innocent from the enemies who planned and carried out and rejoiced in the death of thousands of Americans.”
The idea that the Iraqi government under Saddam Hussein helped al-Qaeda plan the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, a view once promoted by Bush administration officials, has since been rejected by every one, even by the president Bush himself.
PALIN MCCAIN READY TO LIE TO AMERICA EACH AND EVERY DAY!

Posted by: Deb | September 12, 2008, 6:18 am 6:18 am

Quote from Deb:
FORT WAINWRIGHT, Alaska, Sept. 11 — Gov. Sarah Palin linked the war in Iraq with the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, telling an Iraq-bound brigade of soldiers that included her son that they would “defend the innocent from the enemies who planned and carried out and rejoiced in the death of thousands of Americans.”
The idea that the Iraqi government under Saddam Hussein helped al-Qaeda plan the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, a view once promoted by Bush administration officials, has since been rejected by every one, even by the president Bush himself.
Your comment was taken from Washington Post which already been corrected, so check your facts. It was rejected that Saddam Hussein was not involved in 9/11, but we not fighting Saddam Hussein right now, we are fighting with Al Qaida in Iraq, who were involved in 9/11.

Posted by: Phillip | September 12, 2008, 6:25 am 6:25 am

“Can we talk about my son who went in the Army to avoid going to jail. He’s a hero ya know. How about my pregnant daughter? My misuse of political power?…..anything but my frightening lack of knowledge and experience…Thank You Charlie”

Posted by: Sarah P | September 12, 2008, 6:26 am 6:26 am

Phillip
Sadam had nothing to do with 911 Bush told us he did McCain told us he did!
FOX news told us 27000 times it did it was a lie.
Al Qaida in Iraq has no links or ties to Al Qaida fact!
Al Qaida in Iraq is a term created by the Bush government to try to trick the American public into believing there is a link!
Department of defence information on : Al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI) is a group playing an active role in the Iraqi insurgency.
SO IT IS REALLY THE IRAQ FREEDOM FIGHTERS! JUST AS I WOULD FIGHT ANY NATION THE INVADE OUR NATION!
AQI is one of Iraq’s most feared militant organisations and many experts regard it as the United States’ most formidable enemy in the country.
The UN say’s that the threat posed by AQI is exaggerated that a “heavy focus on al-Qaeda obscures a much more complicated situation on the ground.
AQI is in reality the Mujahideen Shura Council (MSC), in an attempt to unify Sunni insurgents in Iraq. However, its efforts to recruit Iraqi Sunni nationalists and secular groups were undermined by its violent tactics against civilians and its extreme Islamic fundamentalist doctrine. Because of these impediments, the attempt was largely unsuccessful.
According to both the July 2007 National Intelligence Estimate and the Defense Intelligence Agency reports AQI accounted for 15 percent of attacks in Iraq. However, the Congressional Research Service noted in its September 2007 report that attacks from al-Qaeda are less than two percent of the violence in Iraq and criticized the Bush administration’s statistics, noting that its false reporting of insurgency attacks as AQI attacks has increased since the “surge” operations began.
Al Qaida is not Al Qaida in Iraq.
Osama bin Laden’s Al Qaida was named “al-Qaida” in an executive order issued by President Bill Clinton in 1998. Al Qaida was realy a group called Maktab al-Khadamat.
ITs BS
We named all the Iraqi freedom fighters Al Qaida in Iraq. When the truth is these two groups have no ties!

Posted by: Deb | September 12, 2008, 6:44 am 6:44 am

Maktab al-Khidamat the real Al Qaida group was renamed by US Intelegence agencies to hide from the American people the fact that the US government trained and funded the group for the war against the Soviets in Afghanistan.
So most of the American public doesnt know we created the monster!

Posted by: Deb | September 12, 2008, 6:52 am 6:52 am

MAK maintained a close liaison with Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) agency through which the CIA funneled money and training to Osama bin Laden’s MAK for the Afghan war with the Russians.

Posted by: Deb | September 12, 2008, 6:55 am 6:55 am

Several former members of the “active service” of the CIA were employed and provided as “expert consultants” to Osama bin Laden’s MAK.

Posted by: Deb | September 12, 2008, 6:57 am 6:57 am

Phillip
So Palin gave correct answer ?
Georgia is NOT a NATO member!And thus Article five means nothing.
“PALIN TALKS ABOUT INVADING RUSSIA
US-RUSSIA WAR OVER GEORGIA MAY BE NECESSARY”

Posted by: Deb | September 12, 2008, 7:14 am 7:14 am

“Iraq war was gods will”, “lizards of satan”, “no global warming”, “oil comes from dinosaurs”.
This is crazy crazy crazy!
Seriously people?

Posted by: T-Rex | September 12, 2008, 7:18 am 7:18 am

Deb.
Question was asked if Sarah Palin will support Georgia NATO membership. She said Yes. Then Charle asked if after Georgia becomes NATO member will US will go to war with Russia, if Russia attack Georgia.
She said “Perhaps”, and she is right. that doesn’t mean use of military force.
Again from Article 5:
The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.
And also we all know that US supported “freedom fighters”, but it was when USSR invaded Afghanistan. It has nothing to do with Osama Bin Laden. He wasn’t in any commanding position at that time. I should know, I am from former Soviet Union and I did my 2 years of service in Soviet Army in Afghanistan 1983-1985.

Posted by: Phillip | September 12, 2008, 7:36 am 7:36 am

palin mccain never!

Posted by: Deb | September 12, 2008, 7:37 am 7:37 am

Phillip
You wrote:
“And also we all know that US supported “freedom fighters”, but it was when USSR invaded Afghanistan. It has nothing to do with Osama Bin Laden.”
—————————————
Osama Bin Laden was its leader your statment is 100% lacking in facts.. Maybe thats why you lost the war when you fought for russia!

Posted by: Deb | September 12, 2008, 7:57 am 7:57 am

T-Rex is McCain wins im going on a four year holiday too Australia!

Posted by: Deb | September 12, 2008, 7:58 am 7:58 am

and McCain’s going to be on “RACHEL RAY” and “THE VIEW” today… but that’s different, Jake? McCain’s allowed to be on these shows, but not Obama.
I see your point.

Posted by: cs | September 12, 2008, 8:44 am 8:44 am

A lot of hysteria here this morning!

Posted by: marylou | September 12, 2008, 8:51 am 8:51 am

Yeah, Obama is falling back on his strengths: pop-media. He is/was the pop-cultured candidate after all, the first one ever. It’s why so much of his support resides in those who live and breath pop culture. Solutions to problems are always easier in the movies, on TV, in blogs, in text message ALERTS, on day time talky shows. Many Americans gets their values from such things. As the McCain/Palin phenom is showing, many don’t. It’s looking like a majority don’t.

Posted by: bluecollarbytes | September 12, 2008, 8:56 am 8:56 am

This Moron Pit Bull along with McWar Paranoia are leading this Nation to the Hell of Military Dictatorship of low-developed dishonest “leaders”.
America, wake up.
We should prevent this happen.

Posted by: Linda,Fl | September 12, 2008, 8:56 am 8:56 am

Did you know:

Washinton Monthly: Rape Exams

As Steve noted earlier, when Sarah Palin was mayor, Wasilla used to charge rape victims for their forensic exams. It’s abhorrent, especially when you note that as mayor of Wasilla, Sarah Palin had no problem raising money to build a sports center, but drew the line at paying for rape exams.

But there are two points that are worth underscoring… Not collecting this evidence means significantly lowering your chances of convicting the man who did it. …Not collecting the evidence that would put rapists behind bars means more rape victims in the future. You’d think that $5,000 to $14,000 a year would be a small price to pay for putting violent sex offenders behind bars. Apparently, Sarah Palin disagrees.

Second, Alaska had to ban this practice in order to qualify for funding under the Violence Against Women Act, which was, of course, sponsored by Joe Biden.

Posted by: cs | September 12, 2008, 9:01 am 9:01 am

Joe Sudbay: McCain opposed Biden’s legislation to stop charging rape victims for sexual assault exams

Okay, this issue gets bigger by the hour… Now, the issue has moved beyond just Sarah Palin charging rape victims for rape kits (i.e., intrusive forensic rape exams, exams that are needed to prove the rape and find the rapist). It now involves McCain and Joe Biden. …the McCain campaign turned that “lipstick on a pig” line into a two-day story—and it was about nothing. This is a real issue that affects the health and safety of women in America. …

Biden has been a champion in the effort to end domestic violence. I know this first-hand from my work on the Board of the National Network to End Domestic Violence. Biden championed the effort to stop charging rape victims for exams after they’d been sexually assaulted. John McCain voted against Biden’s efforts — repeatedly. Like his running mate, John McCain wanted to charge rape victims for exams.

Jed Lewison has uncovered the details:

In 1994, John McCain voted against legislation — pushed through Congress by Joe Biden — that helped put an end to the practice of charging rape victims for sexual assault exams.

Twisted as it may sound, charging victims for a forensic exam was a real problem. For example, as AMERICAblog has documented (and the media is now reporting), when Sarah Palin was mayor of Wasilla, the town charged rape victims for the exams.

Biden’s legislation required that state, local, and Indian governments provide the rape exams to victims free of charge as a condition of receiving federal funds under the Violence Against Women Act. In 2000, Alaska finally passed state legislation in order to qualify for federal funding.

McCain not only opposed Biden’s legislation, but also has voted against funding it as recently as October 2007.

Posted by: cs | September 12, 2008, 9:03 am 9:03 am

“Actress, reality tv star and PETA activist Pamela Anderson is no fan of Sarah Palin.”
Yes,stars across the globe are banding together to sign a petition saying Palin is bad for their business.
Why?
Men like her. Women like her. There goes the neighborhood.

Posted by: len | September 12, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am

How did he dare to put this Monster on VO Ticket???
How did he dare???
McWar, You Betrayed This country!

Posted by: Linda,Fl | September 12, 2008, 10:25 am 10:25 am

When is Palin going to make an appearance on SNL?
After her performance last night, she’d fit right in with the Not Ready for Prime Time Players.

Posted by: Tim | September 12, 2008, 10:25 am 10:25 am

To Deb.
I don’t know what else to tell you. Osama was never a major player in Afghan war against Soviet Union.
Do yourself a favor and just read
“Charlie Wilson’s War”, maybe that will help you understand that war.

Posted by: phillip | September 12, 2008, 10:34 am 10:34 am

And where else to get a better perspective than SNL when the Republican candidates are SNL?

Posted by: Richard | September 12, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am

It is amazing how many women are envious of Sarah Palin. The jealousy is eating them out. Well, the solution is get busy and accomplish something in you life and don’t worry about other people that did. That’s the real story. That goes for the men also. Obama stated he was a community organizer? He didn’t say in what neighborhood. I live in Chicago, lived here all my life, know the soutside, northside, eastside and westside. I remember the Hyde Park are when it was as filty as a pigs sty and a lot of the neighborhoods on the southside that were spotless at one time. I would hate to see them now.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 12, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm

mara: If you watch the Jay Leno show, when he is asking questions to college student’s, none of them have been able to answer one question. They are a big joke. They couldn’t even answer who the first president was. Get a life. How dumb can they be?

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 12, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm

So now Obama won’t be on SNL because of the hurricane. I think it’s because of this column. How long has the hurricane been heading toward the coast and he just now cancels?

Posted by: Maria | September 13, 2008, 8:10 am 8:10 am

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