By Julia Hoppock

Sep 11, 2008 6:12pm

Women Against Sarah Palin Speak Out

ABC News’ Julia Hoppock reports: With recent polls suggesting that women are flocking to the McCain/Palin ticket, there is a growing chorus of female voices who want to put a stop to this trend, and fast. 

Two women in New York felt so strongly that Palin was the wrong choice they created a blog called "Women Against Sarah Palin" and are using the site to post emails from women who write in from all over the country about why they think Palin is the wrong choice for Vice President and the wrong choice for American women.

"We felt as though McCain’s choice was this kind of way to automatically grab female voters and we found that assumption was very insulting to our intelligence as female voters in America," said Lyra Kilston, a 31 year old art magazine editor in New York who helped create the blog.

Shortly after Palin’s selection, Kilston and her co-worker Quinn Latimer, citing what they saw as ‘mounting disbelief, fury and dread’ among their female friends over the selection of Sarah Palin, sent out an email to forty of their friends soliciting reaction the Alaska Governor’s nomination for their blog.  The women also asked the recipients to forward the email to everyone they knew so that others could do the same.

Within a week they received up to 80,000 responses from women from Alaska to Florida, and now estimate they are receiving response emails at a rate of three per second.

"I don’t think either of us thought it would get this large or it would reach this many people," said Latimer.

While Kilston’s and Latimer’s blog has gained a lot of traction, polls reflect that Palin is viewed favorably by those in her peer group. A recent ABC News Washington Post poll found that 67 percent of white women viewed Palin favorably.

The two women take issue with Palin’s stance on abortion rights, (she is anti-abortion rights) her views on climate change, (Palin has said she does not believe that global warming is man made) and what they perceive as a lack of experience.

"Palin’s political views are in every way a slap in the face to the accomplishments that our mothers and grandmothers and great-grandmothers have fiercely fought for," they wrote in their email.

While the women strongly believe that Palin is not qualified to be vice president, they also don’t want their blog to be a smear website.  They hope voters, the media, and contributors to their website focus on Sarah Palin’s record rather than her biography. Latimer thinks that the election discourse has taken an ugly turn since Palin’s selection. 

"I think it has changed the election from something that was rigorous and intellectual and demanding on the people who were following it, said Latimer.  "McCain has changed that by bringing [Palin] on board.  Suddenly its ‘Us Weekly. Suddenly its ‘People Magazine’ as opposed to a serious election on serious issues."

User Comments

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Waaaaa! Waaaaaaaaaa! Waaaaaaaaa! Women can’t have Hitlery, who DODGED SNIPER FIRE IN BOSNIA, so they want to set women’s rights back 100 years. Oops, sorry, I mean liberal puke women.
If I can’t have MY way, I’m going to take my marbles and go home.
Do I have to say it again?
Waaaaaaaaaa! Waaaaaaaaaaa! Waaaaaaaaaaa!!
Palin – 08

Posted by: LarryMan | September 11, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm

Too bad … there are a lot more women “for Palin” than there is against!
McCain-Palin ’08
Hillary 2012!!!

Posted by: Francisco Cardenas | September 11, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm

These women are the reason why women have been held back for so long. Is not so much the “good old bolys” or others; we are our worst enemies.

Posted by: Chatis | September 11, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm

Umm. You are wrong actually. There are more women against Palin than for her. Try doing your research you uneducated wacko!
Independents for Obama/Biden!!

Posted by: Independent | September 11, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm

Jealous old hags…
Obama had a chance to pick a winner, Hillary and bungled it… poor judgement.
McCain did not make the same mistake.
McCain-Palin ’08
Hillary 2012…

Posted by: Steve from Dallas | September 11, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm

Palin’s abuse of rape victims is disgusting. Satan has a room in hell reserved just for her.
If Charlie Gibson can’t ask real questions, he needs to retire and let a real journalist take over.

Posted by: Veronica | September 11, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm

ALL the women I know are against Sarah Palin.
But then, something tells me that Sarah Palin is against all the women I know.
And against me, for that matter.
Against Hillary.
Against Ellen.
Against Oprah.
Against many of the rights women fought for in modern history.
Against women, period.
She might be pro-Thatcher though, the Iron Lady who ruined The United Kingdom.

Posted by: greta | September 11, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm

Pa(l)in = Bush with a lipstick

Posted by: JJ | September 11, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm

McSame is so arrogant to think that he can insult our intelligence by thinking that we women will support Palin and him, no matter what!!! Who the hell do they think we are? We cannot and will not support four more years of the same old policies that has dragged us into an unwarranted war, spent trillions on it, destroyed lives of many of our soldiers and families, brought the economy, not only to a standstill, but a downward spiral, loss of jobs and homes and ensured that the next generation will definitely be worst off than ever. Can we support more of this? The answer can only be a resounding NO!!! No to McShame and the barracuda!!!

Posted by: Karen | September 11, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm

Right hillbilly commenters, Palin is all about women’s rights. Gee I can’t wait until I have the right to be barefoot and pregnant again after 4 years of McCain/Palin. Yee-haw!

Posted by: NotaRepublicunt | September 11, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm

So, are they saying the average American woman doesn’t have the sense to make a well-informed decision? I tell you what…my wife votes for who she darn well pleases. Usually the same way as I vote, but certainly not always. Don’t forget, it was democrats who closed the curtain behind them and voted for Reagan. Remember, one the curtain closes….

Posted by: Mike | September 11, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm

Sarah Palin is to woman the same way that Clarence Thomas is to African-Americans.
Both are NOT advocates for their cohorts. Most women are pro-choice or at least make exceptions for abortions in the case of rape and incest. Most African-Americans believe the OPPOSITE of what Clarence Thomas stands for.

Posted by: Angela | September 11, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm

I think it’s idiotic for these stupid libs that think Sarah Palin isn’t as good a role model for women as Hilary Clinton. Why not? Just b/c her views are different. I’m not a Hilary supporter, but I think she has kicked ass for women’s rights! That is CONSERVATIVE thinking—which eqautes to COMMON SENSE! Something liberals just don’t have….

Posted by: Molly | September 11, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm

Francisco,
Have you gone to war? Would you be willing to go to war? Because if McCain/Palin are elected, you won’t have a choice, unless you you have some kind of physical/mental problem. They are going to bring back the DRAFT!

Posted by: fempharoh08 | September 11, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm

Hey, NotaRepublicu….
You should have been on the debate team. Your rapier wit is….unique.

Posted by: Mike | September 11, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm

PALIN IS A TERRIBLE PICK FOR WOMEN

Posted by: Bhrandon | September 11, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm

PEOPLE OF AMERICA, WAKE UP!!!!! WE ARE IN DANGER. HAS ANYONE ON THE PALIN BAND WAGON ACTUALLY LOOKED AND HER RECORD?? NOT THE MEDIA HYPE OR PALIN HYPE HER RECORD?? PLEASE STOP AND THINK. JOHN MCCAIN SO THAT AFTER OBAMA’S CONVENTION, HE WAS ALL BUT SUNK. PEOPLE THIS IS MCCAIN FOR PRESIDENT, NOT PALIN. MCCAIN IS USING PALIN AND A QUICK FIX FOR A BROKEN PARTY. IT WON’T LAST!!!!!!!! OBAMA 08!!!

Posted by: KIM | September 11, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm

Two women start a website… Wow!
That’s HUGE. Big Story yah got here…

Posted by: patman | September 11, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm

I am so distraught over John McCain’s choice. I literally can’t sleep at night thinking she could soon be PRRESIDENT!! She doesn’t even use good grammar!! I want someone with INTELLIGENCE and good judgement to be in charge. Palin is a political joke, given to us by a man long past his prime. If it was “country first” he would have picked someone we could believe in. McStupid blew it!!!

Posted by: I'm not that stupid!! | September 11, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm

For all those women claiming to be for Hilary and voting for McCain/Palin: SHAME ON YOU! You demean the rest of us AND Hilary by voting purely on gender and not on the issues at hand. Our country is in a major economic crisis. Learn the facts, and base your vote on platforms, NOT gender/color.

Posted by: RealWomenforReal Issues | September 11, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm

I sent my message to “women Against Sarah Palin” earlier today. What’s interesting is that there are so many different reasons that some women are against her. My reason is that as a person with a degree in US History I am appalled that Palin seems to have absolutely no understanding, regard, or respect for the Constitution. Same as Bush and Cheney and that terrifies me.

Posted by: jane | September 11, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm

The candidacy of McCaine and Palin poses a very serious threat to the safety and freedoms we enjoy here in the US- They are both able to hold their own beliefs but not to thrust them on the rest of us. McCain is a man who at the tax payers expense went to the US Naval Academy and basically wasted four years graduating fifth from the bottom of his class.
His war service in Vietnam is admirable but many others served and were imprisoned and they have not used it to achieve fame or fortune.
His rhetoric about Russia and Georgia smacks of George W Bush- a president who has bankrupted this country and criminally neglected the national problems .
Sarah Palin is bottom line-not suited to be the VP or the President of the United States. I applaud her service to her state and she may raise her family and conduct her self as she wishes . That is because she is an American. She seems to think that everyone else needs to believe the same thing and current news shows that she has not accomplished all that she has claimed- I am 68 years old and I have never been more frightened about the future of this country. Stephanie Detjens Oregon

Posted by: stephanie detjens | September 11, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm

We need someone very smart as president, someone who understands the whole concept, and have great analytical thinking. Remember one thing only, intelligence and vision doesn’t have race and gender. Analyze all the data and get a judgement for yourself, for your future, your jobs, life, and kids. Don’t take the luxury to vote for meaningless reasons. Unless the last 8 years were so darn good to you, which most Americans don’t think.
http://stopwarmccain.blogspot.com

Posted by: James Liberty | September 11, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm

The feminist movement should not exclude those women who are pro-life. It’s absurd to think that holding such a belief as the fetus has rights at conception is contrary to the feminist movement.
Feminist movements should focus on universally accepted things like: no discrimination based on gender, equal rights, etc.
This is just a liberal women’s way to enter politics, under the garb of feminism. It’s despicable and sets back the feminist cause.
Maybe if you stopped conflating politics and feminism you would have seen hillary as pres.

Posted by: JA | September 11, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm

There sure are alot of frustrated lesbians on this blog.

Posted by: joey | September 11, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm

As a devout Christian voter tired of the extreme Christian right pretending to speak for me, I am extremely disturbed by McCain/Palin (or should I say McCain/Ann Coulter). The extremely conservative views of Ms. Palin will not serve our country well (including teaching religion in public schools via intelligent design for God’s sake?! C’mon who’s going to teach what the curriculum, Rev. Phelps?!). Also, the fact that the extreme right is ecstatic at Palin suggests to me that the economy is going to be put on the back seat in favor or the latest social issue that social conservatives believe in.
It is time to heal this world, to help those in need, and narrow the gap between rich and poor. It is time to wake up and accept that we need to work together once and for all. While I do not think abortion is right, I also do not think that that is the worst problem plaguing our country. I think helping the poor (instead of more tax breaks for the rich), not risking the retirement of our seniors by privatizing social security, helping the environment, and ensuring we have insurance for all is extremely important. This is the true embodiment of Christian love.
God forbid something happens to McCain and she’s our president?! She’s so polarizing! I think Ms. Palin’s views on intelligent design, praying the gay away, funding of private Christian schools over public schools, and the like to see how she is very similar to Ann Coulter ideologically. McCain clearly showed poor decision-making in picking her–being pressured by the extreme right-wing. What we end up with is worse than even Bush/Cheney–we end up with a McCain/Coulter!

Posted by: faithntruth | September 11, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm

Its about time reality sinks in!! I am an older white woman and until recently Republican…. I could never support a woman whose adult “experience” is limited to a couple years of small town politics and several years on the PTA and local church board. We are talking about someone being the leader of the free world! The crash course they are giving her right now may fool too many people into thinking she actually has knowledge, interest and true opinions of the world and national affairs. I am terrified she will trick us into thinking she is capable. She is pretty. She is a good speech reader. She is likeable. SHE IS NOT PRESIDENTIAL MATERIAL!!!!

Posted by: mary S | September 11, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm

mOLLY,
Would you want to keep your baby?

Posted by: fempharoh08 | September 11, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm

Wow, I must have missed ABC News story on black people against Obama. Or hair-plugs for men against Biden. Maybe the lonely women of NY should spend some time in Alaska, sounds like they need some action.

Posted by: Karen | September 11, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm

I am a 60 year old white, educated, professional AND Christian woman who has looked forward eargerly to having a woman in the White House. However, the RIGHT person in the White House if far more important. Palin does not represent the majority of women in this country. A vote for McCain is dangerous. The possiblity that this woman could be the president is absolutely bone-chilling and more frightening than anything we have faced as a nation in a long time. McCain and Palin’s lies, insults, hatred and mockery demonstrate clearly they should not be elected. Experience counts. Intelligence counts. Motives count. Integrity counts. Character counts. These two lose all around. McCain’s ads that slam Obama have not so well hidden racial overtones and this alone should not be tolerated and is grounds enough to block them out of the White House.

Posted by: Angie McCoy | September 11, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm

All I Know is that I have been waiting YEARS for the idiot Bush to stop saying “NUCULER” instead of nuclear and I just heard palin say that incorrect word in Charles Gibson’s interview. I am never going to survive this. Is there not a single political adviser that is brave enough to correct these dopes?

Posted by: Bon | September 11, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm

Also there seems to be quite a few fake devout Christians and fake rebulicans and independants too.
Its obvious from what you write that you arent what you say you are, but nice try.
Now stop typing and IRON MY SHIRT!

Posted by: joey | September 11, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE, PALIN IS A GOOD CHOICE, OBAMA IS AN IDOT, HE CAN NOT TALK WELL AND HE ONLY PROMISE’S TO RAISE TAX’S AND INCREASE GOVERMENT.
I THINK WE SHOULD GIVE MCCAIN/PALIN A CHANCE AND I THINK SHE WOULD MAKE A HELL OF A PRESIDENT IF NECESSARY.

Posted by: HENDRY | September 11, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm

I thought the interview with Palin was rediculous. She did answer your questions Charlie…. You just didn’t like her answers!!! It seemed pretty obvious by your behavior who you support. Did you really think of those questions for the Vice-Presidential candidate or did someone make them up for you? I support McCain and Palin. I have no doubt who’s side they are on.

Posted by: Tina Granger | September 11, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm

fempharoh08
yep, kept 2 of them! However, I’m not sure what you’re getting at?
What I am sure of is that Palin has all you democrats SCARED! LOVE IT!

Posted by: Molly | September 11, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm

i am a white woman blah blah blah
nice try, so sorry its really obvious what your up to.
look at me im a white woman and a christian and a republican but im not for Palin blah blah hwa hwa wha B.S.
Pro lib/dem bloggers are working overtime.

Posted by: joey | September 11, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm

The liberal women of our country just cannot stand the fact that a smart, attractive, successful, strong woman with conservative Christian faith is running for Vice President. They’re working overtime trying to discredit this fine woman.
We’re a deeply divided nation….even seven years after Sept. 11, 2001….what happened to the passion of just being PROUD AMERICANS?!

Posted by: Southern lady | September 11, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm

Charlie Gibson did a great job with Sarah….her lack of knowledge and experience was obvious. Sarah got a little “testy” when challenged….

Posted by: Marylou | September 11, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm

It is refreshing to see a woman give Charlie an intelligent response in the Palin interview. Watch his body language as he tries to spew his liberal bullshit but is repelled by her great responses.

Posted by: Binder | September 11, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm

Any women who truly supported Hillary could not possibly support Palin – Geez!! Palin doesn’t believe that global warming is man-made, she’s against abortion even in cases of rape and incest (how inhumane!), she only got her first passport a few months ago and today she says we should go to war with Russia!! The woman is definitely an attempt on McCain’s part to misrepresent his platform – he voted for Bush 90% of the time & no amount of razzle-dazzle is going to change that!!
OBAMA in ’08!!!!!!!!!!111

Posted by: Mary May | September 11, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm

Any women who truly supported Hillary could not possibly support Palin – Geez!! Palin doesn’t believe that global warming is man-made, she’s against abortion even in cases of rape and incest (how inhumane!), she only got her first passport a few months ago and today she says we should go to war with Russia!! The woman is definitely an attempt on McCain’s part to misrepresent his platform – he voted for Bush 90% of the time & no amount of razzle-dazzle is going to change that!!
OBAMA in ’08!!!!!!!!!!111

Posted by: Mary May | September 11, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm

HILLARY GIRLS, PUMAS, CLINTONISTAS…
WE
ALL
SAY!!!!
NO WAY, NO HOW!!!NO MCCAIN/PALIN…..
WE ARE HILLARY GIRLS. MCCAIN THINKS THAT JUST BECAUSE WE ARE WOMEN WE ARE GOING TO RUN TO PALIN. PALIN IS CLEARLY ON THE WRONG SIDE OF WOMEN ISSUES. PALIN IS AN EXTREMIST. McCain vote for women equal pay. Biden is a decent human being he created and sponsor a bill call the DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ACT. Potecting women agaist domestic abuse, I urge you all to look into this. I supported Hillary as a republincan women and now I will support OBAMA/BIDEN. This time I am will but my party aside and vote for OBAMA. I fyou think palin is on our side look at her record. I dont belive in abortion but I also dont belive if my child was raped I am going to make her keep her baby. Palin just dont understand This will be a mental issues not only for the mother but also for the child. Her positions are just too extreme.

Posted by: Mrs. Leonard-Hillary girls | September 11, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm

I am an old liberal democrat plagerist with hair plugs and i was going to vote for Obama/Biden but now Im…..
Hahahahahahaha

Posted by: joey | September 11, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm

Bon, you must be an English teacher or want to be one. What point does it make to take issue on how they say the word.

Posted by: William | September 11, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm

If She were a He, would he be the VP?
Doubt it.
Tokenism is worse than Sexism.

Posted by: Think | September 11, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm

If you’re supporting Palin because you honestly think she’s well qualified to be VP and potentially president, and because you agree with her on the issues, good for you.
But there’s nothing feminist about electing an underqualified woman, especially one whose track record on issues affecting women is terrible (not to mention the environment, the economy, etc). Joe Biden authored the Violence Against Women Act while as mayor of Wasilla Sarah P was charging rape victims for evidence kits until the practice was outlawed by the state. I know which one has earned my feminist vote!

Posted by: Donna | September 11, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm

Well… Ugly women have to vote for someone.

Posted by: Mike | September 11, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm

CORRECTION: MCCAIN VOTED AGAISNT WOMEN EQUAL PAY. SAD BUT TRUE.
THIS REPUBLINCAN WHITE FEMALE SAY NO TOO!!! I WILL NEVER SUPPORT THIS PALIN!!! WHAT A JOKE!!!!

Posted by: MRS. LEONARD | September 11, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm

McSame/Payolies don’t represent change. This is dream, no, fantasy ticket for the end of the ole boy line: sad pathetic boring old man makes himself feel younger by getting a younger woman who remakes herself in his image. This is second time McSame has dumped his woman for a younger one. What is new about that? If Payolies was really a maverick why are they keeping her sequestered in Purdah until she memorizes Carl Rove’s talking points. Same ole same. yawn.
Too bad white married women with children in our nation are not better education to critically the difference between a made for TV movie plot and the real deal. There is nothing phony about Obama and Biden. There is no there there with Palin. Meanwhile, dress up that pig with lipstick or an entire woman or however you want and McCain will still be a crazy old man out of touch with the real world.

Posted by: nevadarose | September 11, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm

I think it’s idiotic for these stupid libs that think Sarah Palin isn’t as good a role model for women as Hilary Clinton. Why not? Just b/c her views are different. I’m not a Hilary supporter, but I think she has kicked ass for women’s rights! That is CONSERVATIVE thinking—which eqautes to COMMON SENSE! Something liberals just don’t have….
Posted by: Molly | Sep 11, 2008 6:32:15 PM
Name on thing she has done for women’s rights.

Posted by: J | September 11, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm

I think if McCain really thought that just b/c he put a woman on his ticket that all women would flock to his ticket is ridiculous. That sounds more like something a liberal would do—play race and gender cards—Sarah Palin is a CONSERVATIVE woman! Everyone knows that Conservative women don’t count w/liberals. Again, it’s called COMMON SENSE, people—please stop drinking the koolaid!

Posted by: Molly | September 11, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm

I will strongly agree. Palin is to extreme and a big false.

Posted by: Val | September 11, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm

“..Tokenism is worse than Sexism..”
It certainly is.
Just ask the Democrats about the big “Token” they have heading their ticket this year…………..

Posted by: SandyB | September 11, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm

She would go to war in a heart beat and think God made he do it.This woman is setting us back years and he views are not what this America needs.]McCain is riding on her skirt tails and he is about to fall.He choice her for votes not the safety of the people.For pity sakes think before you vote republican,,,,,,,,,

Posted by: indp voter | September 11, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm

It is funny about the comments about we want women to succeed JUST NOT THIS ONE. I remember the same comments being made about Hillary Clinton when she was running…we want a first woman president but Hillary is not the right one, she’s too divisive, she stood by her cheating man etc etc etc. Even though Hillary was pro choice the major pro choice organization came out publicly for Obama during the primary…so much for solidarity on THE ONE issue women supposedly care about.
My opinion is for a lot of these women there will never be THE RIGHT woman candidate. FYI …not every woman is pro choice, and not every woman votes based on the abortion issue. Some of us actually look at other things in our candidate..get over yourselves. The only embarrassment and insult to women is these groups that purport to be for women…but only for certain ones. When feminists were fight for equality apparently it did not apply for all women

Posted by: ynot | September 11, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm

I’m guessing many of the anti Palin posters on here have at one point agreed with the sentiment “Don’t like abortion? Don’t have one”. Let me throw that logic back at you: “Don’t like Palin? Don’t vote for her”. Creating echo chamber blogs isn’t necessary, just cast your ballot for the Obamessiah like you have been planning and let those of us who share Sarah’s politics cast our vote for her. I Mean, it’s not like bitter whining on a blog is going to win someone over who is already planning on voting for palin…get a dog if you are that bored.

Posted by: Lawrence Richardson | September 11, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm

i hope everybody can read throught the lines and detect that this blog was started by ALL BLACK WOMEN ……..they would say or do anything to get obama elected……….you dont want people to call you the “N” word but you would call sarah palin a pig…………
CONDALEEZA RICE WOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOU ALL.
why dont you name your blog BLACK MURDERERS FOR OBAMAS ELECTION………. YOUR CAUSE SPEAKS IGNORANCE TO THE WHOLE WORLD…………….WHICH IS WHAT YOUR RACE REALLY NEEDS RIGHT NOW, MORE IGNORANCE…………………….YOUR BLOG DOES NOT HAVE THOUSANDS OF HITS, YOU WOULD LIE TO TRY AND SUPPORT YOUR CAUSE, BUT THE POLLS AND FREE SPEECH ALREADY CALL YOU LIARS CAUSE THERE ARE MANY, MANY , MANY PEOPLE EXPECIALLY WOMEN, WHITE WOMEN THAT BELIEVE IN SARAH PALIN AND ALL YOU MURDERERS WILL BE SORRY FOR ALL THE CHILDREN YOU ABORTED CAUSE HELL WILL BE YOUR HOME

Posted by: ccl | September 11, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm

Why are Feminists/Democrats so angry? They sound hateful and ugly. Gov. Palin’s positive and passionate words are so refreshing…maybe that is why SO many are flocking to the McCain/Palin ticket.
Not to mention Mr and Mrs. Obama are not up to the task. They lack both character and courage!

Posted by: Linda | September 11, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm

Molly said:
I think if McCain really thought that just b/c he put a woman on his ticket that all women would flock to his ticket is ridiculous. That sounds more like something a liberal would do—play race and gender cards—Sarah Palin is a CONSERVATIVE woman! Everyone knows that Conservative women don’t count w/liberals. Again, it’s called COMMON SENSE, people—please stop drinking the koolaid!
DO YOU THINK PALIN ACTS CONSERVATIVE??? YOU MUST BE ON DREAMING. THIS PALIN ACTS LIKE SHES A ROCK STAR!!! SHES LOUD AND ALL OVER THE PALCE. I have to admit the Michelle Obama acts more like a conservative women. This was my point. I am a conservative women and I can belive that we conservatives are acting like teens around this women. Lets me real her family alone is all over the place. If she cant control her family what makes you thinks she can control being a president. She does not act conservative. If anything she act like a red-neck. I am an educated white female, take it from me shes no conservative, shes an extremist.

Posted by: Barbra Rice | September 11, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm

It’s obvious from the majority of posts on this blog that the liberal men & women of this country are intimidated by Ms. Palin and how comfortable she is with her self-assured attitude. How can you not trust your future with this woman?
I’d rather have her calling the shots instead of Obama/Biden.

Posted by: Toker | September 11, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm

I AGREE 100% PALIN IS A FALSE!!!!the truth is coming to hunt her!!.

Posted by: Jean-indepedent | September 11, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm

I can not understand how you were all willing to vote for Bush who had the same experience, But oh yeah! you are the fools voting for another inexperienced fool Obama.
Great Choice!

Posted by: Melissa | September 11, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm

I Wonder why a group of women against Palin would start in New York, could it be that they feel somehow…superior to their sisters in the small towns and cities in the rest of the country?

Posted by: david | September 11, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm

Sarah Palin has done more in two weeks for women than anyone else in history, expect those who foufht for their right to vote!

Posted by: N | September 11, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm

I am sorry, this is no liberal. I am a true conservative and a long time hard-core republincan I will say it loud and clear. Palin is no conservative. Palin is an extremist. PERIOD.
TOKER: you must be a young republincan man falling in love with this tramp. Look out!!! republincan women.

Posted by: Barbra | September 11, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm

I question McCain’s judgement in selecting Sarah Palin to be his running mate. McCain without Palin is just another dufus. He needs her to energize his campaign but she’s not qualified for the office of vice president. It scares me.Lucy B.

Posted by: Lucy M. Borik | September 11, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm

How sad that women form a group to destroy another woman. Why don’t you simply let her present herself to the country, answer questions, and let the voters decide?
Anyway, my girlfriends and I will be voting for McCain and Sarah. The more the extremists attack her, the more I admire all the things she has to endure.
GO SARAH!!!! YOU GO GIRL!!!!
“CUANDO LOS PERROS LADRAN, ES QUE AVANZAMOS”

Posted by: Metsa Rama | September 11, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm

What has Obama done for women?
For anybody?
For the people of Illinois?
Not a damn thing!
More of the same Chicago politics… NOTHING!
Send Obama Bin Laden back to charm school where he belongs!

Posted by: E | September 11, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm

Sarah Palin has done more in two weeks for women than anyone else in history, expect those who foufht for their right to vote!
Posted by: N | Sep 11, 2008 7:10:55 PM
Like what?

Posted by: J | September 11, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm

Moralizing,rabid liberals like “The women against Sarah Palin” are amongst the most intolerant, the most deluded and the most threatening of people to a free society. Sarah Palin is a woman who is pro-life and practises what she preaches. And yet, the so called “pro-choice” women are outraged at her own personal choice.
The pro-choice notion that women are left to make a free and open decision is often only a liberal illusion. Male partners or family members routinely pressure a pregnant woman to make an abortion “choice” by threats of abandonment and rejection, or by scornful condemnations of personal shame and recklessness and many other deviously selfish methods to ensure the woman makes the right “choice”. Before these women condemn Sarah Palin, they should investigate the reality of how most unexpectedly pregnant women are treated by family members that are not loving and supportive like Sarah’s family appear to be.

Posted by: Dorea G. | September 11, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm

Sorry Barbra, not in love, just reacting to what I see. My choice is up in the air but you have to admit, Palin is the one getting all of the air time.

Posted by: Toker | September 11, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm

I’m a black lesbian physician who works at an abortion clinic, and I think I’m going to support McCain/Palin!!! I guess i’m reluctant to vote for a ticket with TWO people that have never made executive decisions. Being a bloviating senator for decades (or in obama’s case, tens of months) doesn’t quite do it for me.
Female Black Lesbians for Palin!!!!!

Posted by: Shonequa-Noxema | September 11, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm

TO METSA RAMA: Take this from a white female. Palin is the wrong answer for us women. Palin is way to extreme. McCain voted over and over again for women equal pay. If you so value yourself as a women, McCain is not you answer. Palin will not do annything for Hispanic women, Asian Women nor white women. I hate to say this Palin is no women friend. I really belive eventhouhg I did not like the Clintons that Hillary was a true advacate for us women. I am a rebublincan women and I will not support this women name Palin

Posted by: Barbra Clements | September 11, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm

Tolerance. That’s what I love about the old feminist ideology. NEVER were they about choice. They were about man hating, baby hating, family hating and destroying the USA for their Marxist ends. Be afraid old fems, be very afraid. There are women out their yearning to make a loud statement as they throw off the mantle of oppression from a bunch of hateful,intolerant old broads. Thank you, Sarah for your leadership and inspiration. Your scaring the old socialist hags to death.

Posted by: Charm | September 11, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm

Posted by: Shonequa-Noxema | Sep 11, 2008 7:19:31 PM
Ok troll. Like we believe that bs.

Posted by: J | September 11, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm

Are those “exact words” from the web site’s operators, or are they being misquoted like Charles Gibson did to Governor Palin tonight?

Posted by: andycanuck | September 11, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm

Last time I checked McCain was runnig for President… Hes way too old!!! and to just think, palin will take over is a very, very scary thing. I rather have Obama/biden any old day.
NO PALIN.

Posted by: Jess | September 11, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm

Women against Palin? The point being? I think I’ve seen the polls and somewhere around half are opposed to Palin (give or take 10 percent or so). I strongly suspect these are women that would not be voting for McCain in any case so, again, what’s the point? Oh, I see! There are actual Democrats that won’t be voting McCain/Palin! Gee, who would have ever thought such a thing?

Posted by: CasualObserver | September 11, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm

Charm wrote:
Tolerance. That’s what I love about the old feminist ideology. NEVER were they about choice. They were about man hating, baby hating, family hating and destroying the USA for their Marxist ends. Be afraid old fems, be very afraid. There are women out their yearning to make a loud statement as they throw off the mantle of oppression from a bunch of hateful,intolerant old broads. Thank you, Sarah for your leadership and inspiration. Your scaring the old socialist hags to death.
ARE YOU CRAZY!!! YOU THINK PALIN IS THE ANSWER TO EVERYTHING WE SO HAD FOUGHT FOR!!! YOU NEED TO EDUCATE YOURSELF ABOUT FEMINIST. PALIN IS NOT THE ONE. HILLARY WAS ON OUR SIDE.
NO PALIN.

Posted by: GRACE | September 11, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm

PALIN!!! NO FEMINIST. PALIN IS AN EXTREMIST,.

Posted by: CAROL | September 11, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm

This is a question to Charley. Did Palin have a chance to review your questions before the show??????????

Posted by: Stan | September 11, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm

Palin will put things back 50 years if she gets elected. Somebody compared her to Margaret Thatcher on another blog. I am sorry this woman is NO Margarete Thatcher and she is NO Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: J | September 11, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm

I trully belive that McCain choose the wrong candidate. I attended her rally in PA and I was not happy. I can see it in her eyes that she was not being honest. She did not once talked about a single issues. Sad.

Posted by: GAIL-Scranton PA | September 11, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm

Again, here come the Obama demons – all the work of Obama and Axelrod.
I will make sure to give them a little comment on their blog.
McCain/Palin 08

Posted by: disgusted in Illinois | September 11, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm

Good thing you went against the grain…could have shown the women FOR Palin since she’s swung women to McCain by 20 points…but this is pretty much what I’ve learned to expect from this media.

Posted by: Joe | September 11, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm

Sarah is more qualified than Obama – if she were a man none of this would be happening. She is a smart, impressive, conservative woman and liberal feminists can’t stand that! Read Camile Paglia, she at least has some integrity and she is a real feminist!

Posted by: Alison | September 11, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm

Gail wrote:
I trully belive that McCain choose the wrong candidate. I attended her rally in PA and I was not happy. I can see it in her eyes that she was not being honest. She did not once talked about a single issues. Sad.
Did you forget this is a beauty contest. Sad but true. Barack needs to get down and dirty and hit back hard. I am a proud red-neck and I think Brack is ok!!! I like Biden a bit better.

Posted by: Bob | September 11, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm

All the mothers and grandmothers of todays American women worked for the right to abort babies. Really?
From the pictures I’ve seen of the feminist leaders of the 50s and 60s I don’t think they had too many children. How many children did the deliriously happy in her singular old age Gloria Steinem have?

Posted by: Bemused Observer | September 11, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm

Posted by: GAIL-Scranton PA | Sep 11, 2008 7:32:02 PM
The Republicans can’t talk about issues because that is what matters, not all this other hoopla. IF they had solutions it might make it a bit easier.

Posted by: J | September 11, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm

Sarah Palin is truly a Republican – say what you think they want to hear. Her Bridge to Nowhere – she sent the money back. Right! Now read the rest of the story about how many earmarks she got for Alaska. About hiring a lobbiest to get more. She is an all for me person and God help us if she ever become President.

Posted by: Glenda | September 11, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm

Hey J, this isn’t about prochoice. This is about a 44 year old woman who has not once told us her views about national and foreign issues. Hey N, Joe Biden has done WWWAAAAYYY more for women than Palin will ever do. And he has been a great father to his children too. Check the record. Do the Research. Hey Lucy, follow your advice, wait for Palin to answer a few serious questions about issues and policies, listen to the answers and decide instead of announcing that you and your “girlfriends” have predeciding–that they don’t care about our country to make the very best decision possible with the most facts they can get. I don’t know why people are treating this like a made for TV movie. This is the real deal people. This matters. We cannot afford short sighted dogmatism in our lives any more. We did that and thus far over 5000 US troops are dead, we now spend 2 billion a week in Iraq while Iraqis won’t spend their own money to take care of their country. The Taliban is on the rise in Afghanistan and home foreclosures in the US are at a historical level. When you lose your job or your home or, God forbid, your cousin in Iraq, please don’t blame it on liberal and shoot up my church like that nut in Knowville did last month. Think about how irresponsibly you made this decision, how little research you really took the time to do to read the speeches of Obama, Biden, McCain, and Palin, how little you learned about their career histories, their achievements, their family lives, their real character and devotion to community, how you just heard whatever few sound bytes the networks fed you and then you made a knee jerk decision. You took the lazy way out. Every soldier who dies for your carelessness for your hard headed closed minded arrogance, your lack of due diligence to learn the issues, that will be on you beginning November 5th. Freedom has never been free, and neither is knowledge–you have to earn it.

Posted by: nevadarose | September 11, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm

I sent this to Fox news last night..This is my first time responding with my opinion to a network but I must say Obama/Mc Cain/Palin is the most interesting, enraging and passionate campaign I have ever witnessed. I feel obligated to express my views. The Bill O’Reilly camp along with most of the reporters on that channel seem biased. I have watched various programs on occasion. The fair and balanced statement does not appear to be true. I have heard stories about the station being quietly owned by the Republican party and from watching it appears to be true. The Republican party is not willing for a minority, particularly a person of color run the country while they take a backseat but they have no problem putting an alcoholic, egotistical personal family score settler and his cohorts in office for two terms to totally screw up our country, destroy the economy, leave us in the worst state we have ever been in while enabling terrorist from every county with the courage to publicly ridicule and challenge America on our own soil. Now they want to dupe us with the same but the picture is prettier..
On this eve of Sept 10th, Every American should reflect on what they were doing and where they were and what has resulted for years after that terrible day to remind themselves of the ignorance and results of the current administration. To prove you are fair and balanced, perhaps the TV stations should run a commentary tomorrow on 9/11 and let the world know exactly how many young men and women have lost their lives, how many were maimed to the point of permanent disability and how many military marriages ended in divorce due to the Iraq war that was initiated on the ego of the current admin and John Mc Cain. He is no better or different than the present admin.
I am a mother of four with a career that was not an easy path and I made some sacrifices.. I have a son in the military. He is being re-deployed like thousands of young men and women before him. I, like many mothers and parents do not have solid sleep while our children are abroad in harms way. My son loves his country, he is a young man & contrary to your average Republican perception is responsible, well spoken, bright and intelligent. I raised him to be that way. Tell me why he can not imagine or believe he could be President one day? Tell me why he can not watch a man running for presidential office be judged fairly and not looked upon as an “Angry” black man when Obama comments about Palin. In fact, Obama has been treding lightly to avoid the typical sterotype if a man of intelligence has a strong opinion.
As a woman, I am appalled at Mc Cains choice for a running mate. I am confident that there are several women of various backgrounds from one of the other 49 states that are more intelligent and have more on the ball than Palin does. What incenses me more is that we have (some) women that are trying to justify Palin just because she is a woman. I can not do this in good conscience. How can “we as” women say we are extremely comfortable with (if elected) Palin who would be a heart beat away from the Presidency? I can not accept that women of these great American states are that shallow and short sighted. We have seen too much from the sidelines… I do not see her (Palin) adding one single ounce of validity to the campaign and no, I refuse to say she is just like us… She is a woman who has not experienced the unjust treatment that the majority of us have faced or been stererotyped into. Please, Lets get real…her child who is going to the Military (Iraq) will NOT be put in harms way. He will always be protected. She will sleep at night! Now for the private family matter, If Chelsea Clinton or the Party Girl Bush twins came up pregnant while thier parents were in office there would have been a public outrage!
Recognizing that no one is perfect I will give her that with her wayward daughter but I can not see a mother with good judgmentment wanting to even take on a VP role such as this with a Pregnant teenage daughter whom she is forcing to marry, 2 additional kids and a special needs child who really needs his mother especially when he is less than 6 month old… What happened to sacrificing the ego? Mothers put thier family first so she is not setting a good example or being a role model… What message is she sending? You can have it all ? Well you can’t, there is a consequence to every choice. That is why I don’t DRINK the small town soccer Mom Kool Aid. This chick has an huge ego and really doesn’t care….. Additionally, every picture I see of the family it appears that the baby is being held and seems very comfortable with the pregnant daughter even when Palin is nearby, I have not seen the husband hold his son yet… Hmmmmm. Who is spending the real quality time with baby?
Regarding the lipstick/Pig quasi controversy, its a farce, this woman and the McCain camp are playing usual dirty politics and portraying her as “the victim” woman, this is a classic tactic (weapon) used to emasculate or silence opponents. What would the McCain camp do if another country opposes her ? Its interesting that Mc Cain used the same statement months ago…
What I know for sure is that the entire world is watching and judging us by what happens in this race and the outcome. The Obama/Biden ticket is now balanced because of Bidens experience. The Mc Cain (Fossil)/Palin ticket is not. McCain could and should have made a better choice. This is serious times and we as a country better make sure that whomever represents our country and women realistically be up the task…
Respectfully,
F. Brown
California

Posted by: felecia brown | September 11, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm

Posted by: Alison | Sep 11, 2008 7:35:47 PM
Oh get off that bull. If she was a woman who would be able to take over as President it would be one thing. The woman doesn’t have a clue. She’s a female McCain, actually worse. She stands for everything women have fought so hard against.

Posted by: J | September 11, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm

Alison wrote:
Sarah is more qualified than Obama – if she were a man none of this would be happening. She is a smart, impressive, conservative woman and liberal feminists can’t stand that! Read Camile Paglia, she at least has some integrity and she is a real feminist!
I am a republincan women. Plain does not act conservative. Where have you been??. She is loud and all over the place.She acts liek a rock star. Sorry conservative females dont act like that. Alison are you conservative?? Palin simply has no class. Michelle Obama acts more conservative than her. This is a republincan white female telling you like it is. Alison dear I am very sorry but Palin if anything acts like a red neck. I can belive this women is even being consider for this post as she does not represents us women. Alison please dont lie, she is not a feminist. A true feminist now that Palin is not a feminist. Period.

Posted by: Grace Huffman | September 11, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm

Interesting interview w/Gibson-Palin. I notice McCain/Palin have the same stance on entry of two eastern European countries into NATO. So they both sides are willing to risk war with Russia (after all, permitting them in the NATO treaty we signed, that is the obligation). Of course, some people aren’t familiar with the NATO treaty and don’t realize that coming to the aid of other members, including war when necessary, is precisely what it means.

Posted by: CasualObserver | September 11, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm

I am starting a blog “MEN AGAINST ‘WOMEN AGAINST SARAH PALIN’.
I hope it is more successful than the other blog Caucasian Oprah Watchers (C.O.W.s). Boy were those chicks stupid.

Posted by: Mitchell | September 11, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm

WOMEN AGAIST PALIN IS ABOUT DAMM TIME!!! I HOPE THEY START ONE WITH REPUBLICAN WOMEN AGAIST PALIN.

Posted by: JESS | September 11, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm

Hillary GIRLS SAY:
NO WAY!! NO HOW!! NO MCCAIN/PALIN

Posted by: BARBRA | September 11, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm

Remember though she didn’t blink…lol

Posted by: J | September 11, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm

Palin is a true example of what feminism SHOULD be. Opportunity to make it on your own – unlike Monica Lewinsky’s ex-boyfriend’s wife…..

Posted by: Michel | September 11, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm

A PIG WITHOUT LIPSTICK IS MCSAME WITHOUT PALIN

Posted by: nevadarose | September 11, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm

Gee. I bet if I watch this thread long enough, there will be more “Republican” woman against Palin than there are “Republican” women registered to vote…. Why do people think anyone would ever believe a post on the Internet that begins:
I am a long-time member of Party-A but because of blah blah blah, I’m going to vote for Party-B. You have to have an IQ smaller than your shoe size to belive it.

Posted by: CasualObserver | September 11, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm

Hillary GIRLS SAY:
NO WAY!! NO HOW!! NO MCCAIN/PALIN
Posted by: BARBRA | Sep 11, 2008 7:47:25 PM
YOU bet we do!

Posted by: J | September 11, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm

Women are their own worst enemy, I’ve known this all my life. They’ll throw away their credibility with both hands just to keep their party in office. “Women are equal! Unless they’re pro-life, or middle-class, or they belong to the wrong religion!”
Women deserve the backlash if they continue to be this stupid. And that backlash will last a lot longer than a presidency.
I’m sure that somewhere, a man has already justified not promoting the woman with a family on the basis that, this seems to be just fine with liberals.
They may win the election, but they’ll lose the war. And they’ll deserve to lose it.

Posted by: Alexis | September 11, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm

1) If Gov. Palin’s selection was an “insult” to “women” then why do these babes feel a need to do ~anything~ at all. Wouldn’t her mere presence on the ticket be enough to turn all womyn against her? This then is obviously a wasted, effort… kind of like telling a hair-raising story to a bald headed man.
2) Gov. Palin is actually pro-choice. Doubt me? Do you really think she would disagree with anything on this page.
http://hubpages.com/hub/For-Women-Only—-A-Pictorial-Journey-About-Choice

Posted by: jack burton | September 11, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm

I am a woman, an independent, had no intention of ever voting for Hillary, and no intention of supporting Palin. To think that women would support Palin just because she’s also a woman is kind of insulting to me. I will give it up to her for being a successful working mom, but bottom line is I think her views are narrow-minded and ignorant. I respect that people have the right to conduct their lives according to their religious/spiritual beliefs, but I am concerned that she may impose her conservative beliefs on policies that affect other women.

Posted by: kittyarmy | September 11, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm

Somebody please tell me how waking up in Texas with minor contractions and leaking fluid, going ahead and giving a speech and then getting on one, two, three flights (Houston, Seattle, Ankorage), then driving 45 minutes before going to a medical facility because you want your baby, who you already know has downs syndrome, is a sign of a responsible parent? This is a woman who will go after whatever she wants no matter who gets hurt, or who dies in the process. But hey, God’s on her side no matter what, right? Do the research. Make an informed decision this time. It matters.

Posted by: nevadarose | September 11, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm

Jack Burton,
All I can say is if any woman supported Hillary there is no way they would vote for McCain/Palin.

Posted by: J | September 11, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm

“I could never support a woman whose adult “experience” is limited to a couple years of small town politics and several years on the PTA and local church board. ”
When the opposition has to lie this blatantly then we know we’ve got them on the run. :-)

Posted by: jack burton | September 11, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm

How DARE McCain put a woman on the ticket who didn’t marry up, look the other way while her husband cheated on her, & defend him against accusations of rape?
Putting someone on the ticket who worked with her hands, has more executive experience than the other three combined, who thinks for herself and made her own way to the top — what kind a woman is that? Why, she hasn’t even been certified as a woman by the liberal feminist establishment. It’s an outrage I tell you!

Posted by: DaMav | September 11, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm

Posted by: jack burton | Sep 11, 2008 8:01:46 PM
How is she qualified to be a heartbeat away from the Presidency?

Posted by: J | September 11, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm

All of you CRAZY republicants made me donate $100 to Obama/ Biden, thanks for that nudge!

Posted by: Columbus MPH student | September 11, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm

Jack Burton, what does any of your rant have to do with who should be the leader of the free world?

Posted by: nevadarose | September 11, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm

“Jack Burton,
All I can say is if any woman supported Hillary there is no way they would vote for McCain/Palin. ”
So… how did you get that God gig that gives you such supernatural powers that you can speak for every Hillary supporter across the country. Did you see it advertised on Craigslist? Does it come with a killer retirement plan?
If that is “all you can say” then it is pretty apparent that you’ve already said enough to show that you really have no clue as to what you are “saying.”

Posted by: jack burton | September 11, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm

For all the ignorant posters on here who read the headline and not the article, it actually says:
“ABC News’ Julia Hoppock reports: With recent polls suggesting that women are flocking to the McCain/Palin ticket, there is a growing chorus of female voices who want to put a stop to this trend, and fast.” So obviously, the polls are showing women ARE flocking to Palin. Good grief. Talk about a bunch of shrewish fishwives. Deal with it.

Posted by: Glynn | September 11, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm

I’m a lifelong conservative woman… er…I’m a lifelong progressive man who…er…I’m a lifelong feminist that ….er…I’m an independent woman who was leaning toward McCain but now I’m definitely gonna vote for Obama because Palin lacks experience. (yeah that’s it…)
Sheesh! How do you people keep track of your persona de jour?
Obama has set up a network of web sock puppets to do all these postings. Nobody in their right mind believes what is said in them.

Posted by: in_awe | September 11, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm

“Somebody please tell me how waking up in Texas with minor contractions and leaking fluid, going ahead and giving a speech and then getting on one, two, three flights (Houston, Seattle, Ankorage), then driving 45 minutes before going to a medical facility because you want your baby, who you already know has downs syndrome, is a sign of a responsible parent? ”
Somebody tell me, since Gov. Palin consulted with her doctor beforehand, how ~anyone~ can possibly question what goes on between her doctor and a woman. Hasn’t anyone here ever heard of Roe v. Wade?

Posted by: jack burton | September 11, 2008, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm

felecia brown, it was John Kerry who disparaged men and women in the military, not the Republicans. Please get that right.

Posted by: Glynn | September 11, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm

“Posted by: jack burton | Sep 11, 2008 8:01:46 PM
How is she qualified to be a heartbeat away from the Presidency?”
Hmmm… unless there are two of us Jack Burtons here then it is obvious that someone is trying to play games with identities.
How so typical…

Posted by: jack burton | September 11, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm

Jack Burton,
She is everything that Hillary has fought so hard against. That was my point which was obviously lost on you.
I was not speaking for ALL Hillary supporters. It is just unfathomable that they would vote for somebody completely opposite of Hillary.

Posted by: J | September 11, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm

Somebody tell me, since Gov. Palin consulted with her doctor beforehand, how ~anyone~ can possibly question what goes on between her doctor and a woman. Hasn’t anyone here ever heard of Roe v. Wade?”
Oh, Jack Burton, you know the left only trots out Roe vs Wade when they want to kill something.

Posted by: Glynn | September 11, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm

Country First. Palin/McCain will screw up the rest of the world later!

Posted by: Paula | September 11, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm

“Jack Burton, what does any of your rant have to do with who should be the leader of the free world?”
1) You’re welcome to cite any “rant” that you think I have posted. Give detail. Be specific. Or is your definition of a “rant” any post which disagrees with you? Or that you can’t think of a good answer for?
2) I wasn’t aware that the rules of the site dictated that each and every answer must include specific information concerning qualifications for “who should be the leader of the free world”. I assure you I will try to do better next time.
3) BTW, what did any of ~your~ post have to do with “who should be the leader of the free world”? Did I inadvertantly miss any of it?

Posted by: jack burton | September 11, 2008, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm

A vote for McCain is a vote for against all women. Stand up and vote for Obama and real change that this country desperately needs.

Posted by: Deb | September 11, 2008, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm

She didn’t know what the Bush Doctrine was. Tried to fake it then Gibson had to explain it to her. Enough with these intellectual lightweights!

Posted by: bud | September 11, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm

I can see that every female Obama precinct captain, campaign worker and freelance Obambot is doing “her” bit here, as is the the black bag job who is pretending to be a sn illiterate racist. (Is that you, Axelrod?) In the unlikely event that any of you girls aren’t affiliated with the Obama campaign or the Soros empire, may I say that your opinions do not represent mine– not all of us women are gullible enough to believe that Interntional Socialism /Progressivism is good for women.

Posted by: RebaC | September 11, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm

Lets see….
Pro-choice AKA the right to kill a baby.
Hell of a moral position, but no problem for this bunch of shallow ugly bitches.
Qualifications?
Compared to what?
Obama – with a resume on a tissue?
Sarah too successful?
Too good looking?
Gotcha.

Posted by: Graywolf | September 11, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm

Posted by: bud | Sep 11, 2008 8:16:23 PM
You could tell she memorized whatever she said. I guess Karl Rove, Bush and McCain had her study their talking points.

Posted by: J | September 11, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm

J sez:
Jack Burton,
She is everything that Hillary has fought so hard against. That was my point which was obviously lost on you.
Jack responds:
Yeppers… the Governor has a happy home life with a satisfied husband. Hillary sure has fought ~that~ battle for years. And Gov. Palin got elected to her ~own~ office. That’s another Hillary battle that she fought, eh.
And I’ll leave it to others to wonder why you have to retroactivly try to “make a point” out of a post that was shown to be fairly silly.
j sez:
I was not speaking for ALL Hillary supporters. It is just unfathomable that they would vote for somebody completely opposite of Hillary.
Jack responds:
Oh… you ~weren’t~? Then I’d advise you to go back and take another look at your post and see just where you went wrong in your phrasing. Because to any English speaking person that is EXACTLY what you posted.
And of course, you actually mean “unfathomable to you” don’t you?

Posted by: jack burton | September 11, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm

She said that she has some “insight” into Russia because they are practically neighbors with Alaska. SNL is going to have a field day.

Posted by: Hal | September 11, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm

Posted by: RebaC | Sep 11, 2008 8:18:09 PM
Well when they take away everything that women in the past have worked so hard to achieve, then come back whining like a baby. Sarah Palin and McCain will do nothing to advance women’s issues.

Posted by: J | September 11, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm

Palin’s pick by McCain was a cynical exercise in vote grabbing. He was not thinking of the country at all. To be sure, it seems as if he’s had some short-term success, however he’s still behind in the states that matter, and what’s worse, he’s lost all credibility as someone we can trust to use proper judgment. He’s now seen as a gambler, and if this is the sort of decision making he’d use as president, then God help us all. It’s a dangerous world out there, and Obama/Biden is looking more and more like the safer and more reliable choice.

Posted by: Mark O | September 11, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm

jack,
Quit playing word games. Just like a republican troll to twist the words of another.
Once again, if women who supported Hilary are going to vote for Palin it doesn’t make sense. She is everything Hillary is against. I won’t vote for somebody just because she has the same body parts that I do.

Posted by: J | September 11, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm

I commend the women from New York who have set up the website to give those of us who think Sarah Palin IS NOT a role model for women and IS NOT qualified to be a VP let alone the President, an opportunity to voice our opinion. Give me a break, do all of you pro-Palin supporters really think that her substandard education and her minimal government service gives her the qualifications that are proportinate to the job? Its amazing how low we have set our standards. I wont even get into the family issues, although she seems to not be eligible for the Superstar Mom status you want to believe she has achieved.

Posted by: Eleen | September 11, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm

“Well when they take away everything that women in the past have worked so hard to achieve,”
So the fact that Gov. Palin worked “hard” to achieve one of the only 50 governships in the United States is a real clue that she is going to ensure that no other woman ever again has that opportunity.
I see.
[pssstt... have you been checked for paranoia yet?]

Posted by: jack burton | September 11, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm

It is just so sad to see this breathtakingly unqualified woman used for craven political purposes. She clearly has no clue about national issues. I think that Palin would set women back years if she became vice president. She would give sexists all the fodder they need to say, “she women can’t handle it” just because THIS woman won’t be able to handle it. Palin will just be a joke worse than Dan Quayle ever was.

Posted by: Carlin | September 11, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm

As a woman, who has voted for members of all parties (yep, even those 3rd parties), the LAST thing I consider when casting my vote in an election such as a Presidential election is who can best represent the interests of women.
When I enter that voting booth during a federal election I am an AMERICAN first. I vote based on who I believe best represents what this country stands for: That’s the only “identity” that matters to me.
This year for me: Obama/Biden: Not the ones.

Posted by: Whatever | September 11, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm

Palin is being used to bring in money.
Female oil company employees were used reduce the amount the royalties paid to to the government.
Sex Oil and Drugs
Digg – Sex, Drugs, and Oil Government officials handling billions of dollars in oil royalties are accused of receiving improper gifts and having sex with employees.
digg.com/politics/Sex_Drugs_and_Oil – 46k
Guess what the Bush Administration does not
want the justice department to press charges.
It’s time for a change.

Posted by: Mr. Unite Us | September 11, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm

jack burton,
So what? What has she done to help other women since she has become Governor?

Posted by: J | September 11, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm

“She said that she has some “insight” into Russia because they are practically neighbors with Alaska. SNL is going to have a field day.”
You are aware, are you not, that every Govonor of Alaska spends an appreciable amount of time negotiating such things as fishing rights, overflights, and even things such as search-and-rescue with their counterparts in Russia.
No… of course you aren’t.

Posted by: jack burton | September 11, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm

Remember Dinosaurs roamed the earth 4000 years ago….

Posted by: bstabler | September 11, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm

WAKE UP AMERICA!!!! Do you really want this woman a breath away from the presidency??? I’m an Independent white woman. I voted for McCain in the primary. His choice of Sarah Palin- as wonderful in so many ways as she may be- was reckless and irresponsible. I’m amazed and shocked the polls are as close as they are after this choice. It is SO scary to me. I am so shocked that the American public at large is as ignorant as they are for even considering this ticket as an option.

Posted by: Angela | September 11, 2008, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm

Love the idea of a hockey mom being able to climb the ladder and be heard! However, I am completely mistified as to why anyone would consider her to be the VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES aThis is nothing other than a political ploy to boost John McCain. COUNTLESS numbers of photos of him…standing BEHIND her with his little hands folded on top on each other….with FEATHERS coming out of his mouth…..sly little grey fox…make that white fox. Old White Fox….who just happens to BE the Good Old Boys Club. He is pathetic. And WE are pathetic if we elect these two people.

Posted by: Lesley | September 11, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm

I dont think Sarah Palin has done anything to help women, and it appears she was overly dependent on the “First Dude” including him in emails that pertained to Government business. So if you want to know who is setting women back, I think you need to look at Sarah Palin. We have been struggling for years to recognized for our accomplishments and treated as equal accordingly. Women dont want to be rewarded just because they are women and we are need to fill some quota or in this case used in order for the Republicans to win the election and drive the country further into deeper despair.

Posted by: Eileen | September 11, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm

since when a strong woman who has her own views and lives her life consistent with her values is a slap to her mother and grandmother? Sarah like the rest of the women have the chance to have their own views expressed verbally and how they live their lives is a testament to the hard fought battles by the previous generations.
Freedom of choices and freedome to express oneself! If these folks said that there can only be one view, their view, then it is them who slap and discredit the work of the previous pioneers who fought to give women their independence and their voice. Celebrate the differences!

Posted by: vote4thebest | September 11, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm

Governor Palin is provincial and impulsive. If all you need to be vice president or president is a college degree, husband (in the background), children, strong opinions, moose hunting or fishing experience, ability to read a budget, and lipstick, a lot of us could fill her boots and then some. I’d like to see some show of intellectual curiosity and sophistication and ability to stand alone and answer the public’s questions without prompting!
Anchorage, AK

Posted by: Spence | September 11, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm

Right on Bstabler. I supported McCain eight years ago, but not now. He has sold his soul to the party hacks. Palin is the worst excuse for VP since Dan Quayle.

Posted by: nevadarose | September 11, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm

Democrats – why do you continually nominate these pompous, elite empty suits? John Kerry and now Barrack Obama. If you would nominate someone with substance you might stand a chance. Obama is an admitted liar, and he continues to tell lies. He has ZERO real accomplishments for CHANGE in the Illinois Government, the US Senate and from his days as a “community organizer”. He is all show and no action! McCain is a maverick and Palin has real executive experience at government reform. This year they are the best choice for change!

Posted by: jinwa | September 11, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm

J sez:
jack,
Quit playing word games. Just like a republican troll to twist the words of another.
Jack responds:
You’re welcome to cite just where I “twisted” any of your words. Be specific. Give detail. Put up or shut up.
But you can’t, eh. It’s just your defense because you were nailed and you have no other way to excuse yourself. It must be all Jack’s fault.
So tell us, which words of yours did I “twist.”
j sez:
Once again, if women who supported Hilary are going to vote for Palin it doesn’t make sense.
jack responds:
“…it doesn’t make sense” to whom? You? And you just can’t concede, can you, that there are Hillary supporters out there who ~will~ support for Gov. Palin.
j sez:
She is everything Hillary is against.
Jack responds:
“everything”? Hillary is against mothers? Hillary is against women working their way up the food chain to become the highest elected official in their state? Hillary is against being faithfully married to the same man for decades? Hillary is against being smart, educated, successful, driven, and pretty to boot?
j sez:
I won’t vote for somebody just because she has the same body parts that I do.
Jack responds:
1) I wasn’t aware that anyone was asking you to do that.
2) If given the choice between to equally qualified liberal democrats, one a man and the other a woman, I am fairly positive we all know just who you would vote for.

Posted by: jack burton | September 11, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm

“You are aware, are you not, that every Govonor of Alaska…”
Really? They negotiate fishing and overflight rights? Wow!
What else do “Govonors” of Alaska and other Republican VP candidates do that makes them qualified to be the US President? Take spelling lessons, hopefully? Potatoe, anyone?

Posted by: Sankaps | September 11, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm

you think Hillary would not have included Bill in emails bc’s?

Posted by: nevadarose | September 11, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm

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Wow, scary. I never thought there were so many democrats that were so afraid of Sarah Palin that they were ready to slit their wrists.
And you Hitlery supporters, such loyalty. You probably were with her when she was DODGING SNIPER FIRE IN BOSNIA.
Sorry to inform you whiners but Sarah Palin has as much experience as, let me see, Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan, Jimmah Cartah, George Bush. Weren’t they, let me think, GUVnors???
How about some cheese with that whine.
Palin – 08

Posted by: LarryMan | September 11, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm

Republicans, as someone who is proud to call Chicago her home and who lives not to far from Obama you all have it SOOOOO wrong. The Obamas are good people who have been dedicated to the City and to their community. To boil it down to say he has done nothing and is a liar is what is wrong with this country. They are good people, they are well educated and they are backed up by a team of advisors who will certainly help him and Biden get this country back on track.

Posted by: Eileen | September 11, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm

“jack burton,
So what? What has she done to help other women since she has become Governor? ”
I wasn’t aware that the tasks of a governor included “helping other women”.
Would you ask any male governor what he has done to “help other men”?
It takes a special kind of liberal democrat to think that women need “help” from a governor to suceed in life.

Posted by: jack burton | September 11, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm

Republicans are INSANE. As of tonight their candidates will be exposed for the frauds that they are. Whoever supports these linatics should be put imprisoned for domestic terriosm!!

Posted by: Jake | September 11, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm

Two women start a website… Wow!
That’s HUGE. Big Story yah got here…
Posted by: patman | Sep 11,
Actually it must be hugh. Not only did I receive an email from them, almost every women I know also received one. And I am talking different parts of the country. I guess word travels fast.

Posted by: erin | September 11, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm

“Remember Dinosaurs roamed the earth 4000 years ago….”
You’ve been punked, eh. But you’re in good company.
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/273243.php

Posted by: jack burton | September 11, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++=
Spence, you said —
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I’d like to see some show of intellectual curiosity and sophistication and ability to stand alone and answer the public’s questions without prompting!
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I would too, from Obammy. And we saw just what he could do when he was not “prompted” at Saddleback. He couldn’t find his butt with both hands.
Palin stood alone and was full of intellectual curiousity, in Alaska as Governor. When the time comes she will be able to do her job as Vice President.
Palin – 08

Posted by: LarryMan | September 11, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm

“So if you want to know who is setting women back, I think you need to look at Sarah Palin. We have been struggling for years to recognized for our accomplishments and treated as equal accordingly. Women dont want to be rewarded just because they are women and we are need to fill some quota ”
Yeppers… the good folk of Alaska voted her in as govenor just to set womyn back and to fill a quota.
Then again… maybe not.

Posted by: jack burton | September 11, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm

None of the women I work with like Palin. In fact they HATE her even worse than I do. Republicans are seting theselves for an EPIC FAIL.

Posted by: Jake | September 11, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm

McCain/Palin = EPIC FAIL

Posted by: Jake | September 11, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm

jack, you are an idiot plain and simple. YA just don’t get it do you? All your posts shows me that you hate Hillary. Secondly , there are women that will vote for her just because she is a woman. Some us aren’t that stupid.
I really don’t care, it’s up to them if they want to ruin this country even more.
I also don’t care what sex a candidate is. I look at what they can bring to this country not what sex they are.
Just like a republican to read stuff into what somebody said.

Posted by: J | September 11, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm

“If all you need to be vice president or president is a college degree, husband (in the background), children, strong opinions, moose hunting or fishing experience, ability to read a budget, and lipstick, a lot of us could fill her boots and then some.”
So afraid of a strong woman that her very real accomplishments have to be totally ignored.
I think the women of America are beginning to have their eyes opened quite well about just how closed minded the libs are when they don’t get their way.

Posted by: jack burton | September 11, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm

I didnt say the voters of Alaska picked her to fill a quota, but McCain sure did, otherwise please explain his failure to pick candidates that were more qualified? Oh you cant, because I have yet to hear a Republican answer that question…wonder why?

Posted by: Eileen | September 11, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm

I love these ‘is she qualified’ questions because she always ends up being compared to the least qualified candidate for President ever put on a ticket by a political party in history — and wins.
If you have a hard time winning an argument that Obama is more qualified by experience, then why is he at the top of the ticket?

Posted by: DaMav | September 11, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm

Jack Burton,
I asked you what she has done for women as Governor. Where’s the answer?

Posted by: J | September 11, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm

====================================
Eileen, I have nothing personal against Obammy. BUT can you tell me what he will do to improve this country, promote jobs, keep us safe, and protect the Constitution?
Last I saw, he is going to promote socialism, he is going to take from the rich and give to the poor, he is going to make it harder for small businesses, hurt jobs, he is going to downsize the military, destroy our nukes, and pull us out of countries where we have established ourselves.
Finally, he is going to make guns illegal and take away MY Constitutional Right to own one.
I await your response with bated breath.
Palin – 08

Posted by: LarryMan | September 11, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm

Men who assume that women are dumb like Sarah Palin a lot.
The others don’t.

Posted by: starsky | September 11, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm

some random poster sez:
Really? They negotiate fishing and overflight rights? Wow!
Jack responds:
Yep… and that pretty much destroys the previous post that I was responding to that tried to mock her state being neighbors with Russia, didn’t it.
But that’s the best you’ve got, isn’t it.
some random poster sez:
What else do “Govonors” of Alaska and other Republican VP candidates do that makes them qualified to be the US President? Take spelling lessons, hopefully? Potatoe, anyone?
Jack responds:
Well, they could be a first term senator who has not bothered to actually, you know, GO to any committee meetings because he’s been too busy running for president since the day he was elected. That may be why he gets so easily confused as to what committees he is actually on.

Posted by: jack burton | September 11, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm

I think you can think of her favorably but still not think she should be Vice President.

Posted by: cincyr | September 11, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm

Wow, we must be living on different planets, because I have never heard or read that Barack is going to do any of those things. If we start with the 2nd amendment first, he is on record and saying her supports upholding the constitution, with the exception being to take AK47′s out of the hands of criminals and make it difficult for criminals to get guns. He has promoted the idea of giving tax credits to companies to keep jobs in the U.S. instead of giving tax credits to companies to take jobs out of the country. He has no record of saying he is going to downsize the military, he has plans to send more troops to Afghanistan and maybe once and for all capture Bin Laden, remember him? Should I go on? In regards to tax cuts, hope you all know that Bushes tax cuts go to people that make over $350k a year, his plan is to eliminate those tax breaks and allocate them to the MIDDLE class.

Posted by: Eileen | September 11, 2008, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm

“None of the women I work with like Palin. In fact they HATE her even worse than I do. Republicans are seting theselves for an EPIC FAIL.”
Pauline Kael, who was an American film critic who wrote for The New Yorker magazine, is reported to have said, when Nixon won the 1972 election, “How can that be? No one I know voted for Nixon!”

Posted by: jack burton | September 11, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm

I think Jack Burton is Karl Rove. Same lame old responses.

Posted by: J | September 11, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm

Proves nothing.
More than 80% men & women in Alaska supports Palin. It isn’t because she is a woman. It’s because he serves the people.
Of course out of the remainding 20% you can find some “Woman against Sarah Palin”.
What are these woman actually for? “woman for no woman but a black man”?

Posted by: RT | September 11, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm

Posted by: Eileen | Sep 11, 2008 9:04:34 PM
You should know these republican trolls make stuff up and post it as true. They don’t think most of us are intelligent enough to find out our candidates position on things. But then they like to put lipstick on pigs.

Posted by: J | September 11, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm

The Gov. of Alaska has more power than the gov. of NY, Illinois and California. Actually, there is only one state that has more power than Alaska and that is Mass. Palin started her political career 2 years before Obama and she actually has executive experience. So if you guys can say that she has no experience than I guess he doesn’t either.

Posted by: jean | September 11, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm

99% OF THESE POSTS ARE FROM THE SAME POSTER. HE IS EITHER INSANE WITH MULTIPLE PERSONALITIES OR ROBIN WILLIAMS (which would be the same thing anyway) PLEASE CALL 1-800-SHRINK4U

Posted by: NOT FOOLED | September 11, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm

Sorry Jean, but where I live Mayor of a town of 7000 is a part time job and something most people do in the off hours. Up until now I had no idea it was considered to equate to Executive experience.

Posted by: Eileen | September 11, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm

J rambles:
jack, you are an idiot plain and simple. YA just don’t get it do you? All your posts shows me that you hate Hillary. Secondly , there are women that will vote for her just because she is a woman. Some us aren’t that stupid.
I really don’t care, it’s up to them if they want to ruin this country even more.
I also don’t care what sex a candidate is. I look at what they can bring to this country not what sex they are.
Just like a republican to read stuff into what somebody said.
Jack responds:
A little thin-skinned eh. Now you’re resorting to name calling. That will impress the readers to no end.
Please cite any quote that would lead you to think I “hate” Hillary. Go ahead. You have my posts right in front of you. Be specific. Give detail.
Certainly you can back this charge up because we know for sure that you wouldn’t want to be thought of as a scatterbrained woman not able to remember from moment to moment what was on her mind?
Speaking of which… I know it is a “woman’s perogative” to change her mind but you did it in such a whiplash fashion that even ~my~ neck is sore. NOW you are posting that ~some~ Hillary supporters WILL vote for Gov. Palin?
And nice try on ducking the question of voting for two equally attractive candidates, one of whom happens to be a woman. We all noticed that you never said you wouldn’t vote that way.

Posted by: jack burton | September 11, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm

J = Carl Rove clone?

Posted by: nevadarose | September 11, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm

“I didnt say the voters of Alaska picked her to fill a quota, but McCain sure did, otherwise please explain his failure to pick candidates that were more qualified? Oh you cant, because I have yet to hear a Republican answer that question…wonder why?”
Sen. Biden said yesterday that Sen. Clinton was more qualified than he to be vice-president. Now, how does ~that~ make you feel? :-)

Posted by: jack burton | September 11, 2008, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm

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Ya see, Eileen. Most supporters of Obamma don’t know the issues, don’t care about the issues, and will just march lock-step to the voting booth.
He has publically stated that he will eliminate our nukes. He has stated that he will reduce the military. He has said he wants an illegal Assault Weapon Ban more restrictive than the last one which was overturned.
“Tax increases to companies that take jobs out of the country”. That’s a misnomer, means nothing. Any tax increase to any company will mean that YOU and ME pay it.
Oh, I forgot. What is his plan to bring down gas prices which is the major cost of the economy downturn? Don’t say Air Up Your Tires. We need more supply to lessen the demand. The best and fastest way is to Drill in ANWR, where no one lives, but Caribu.
Whew!!!
Palin – 08

Posted by: LarryMan | September 11, 2008, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm

99% OF THESE POSTS ARE FROM THE SAME POSTER. HE IS EITHER INSANE WITH MULTIPLE PERSONALITIES OR ROBIN WILLIAMS (which would be the same thing anyway) PLEASE CALL 1-800-SHRINK4U

Posted by: NOT FOOLED | September 11, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm

j sez:
I asked you what she has done for women as Governor. Where’s the answer?
Jack responds:
Scroll back up and you’ll see it. Thank God Al Gore invented the scroll back when he invented the internet so that silly questions such as this only have to answered once.

Posted by: jack burton | September 11, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm

Like I said Larry we must be on different planets, the make believe world that you all live in and then the one we live in. Sorry but as usual you guys just make stuff up or maybe this is what you heard listening to Rush?

Posted by: Eileen | September 11, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm

Eileen – I think you are the one making stuff up… Obama has done nothing. He is only good at hanging out with criminals. Rescko, Ayers and Wright… He may have been 8 when ayers commited those crimes, but he took his money in 1995 for campaign contributions. Now why would a know communist like bill ayers want obama to become president? that is not made up Eileen…. Maybe Obama is the troll, not the republicans.

Posted by: jb | September 11, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm

“Men who assume that women are dumb like Sarah Palin a lot.”
Yeah… that argument will impress the independent women immensely. “Agree with us or we think you’re dumb.”

Posted by: jack burton | September 11, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm

Sorry liberal ladies – you are willing to kill your own unborn children to the toon of 15+ million to date primarily as a means of birth control. Now that is the real “inconvient truth”! Don’t you dare presume that you speak for all women (even educated, highly degreed women) in this country. You do have freedom of choice – the choice to keep your pants on or not!

Posted by: prolife for Palin | September 11, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm

Palin is a religious nut ball. Praying for a pipeline baby… Drill baby drill – the new mantra for sex with lobbyists!
The women has no credentials.
And the silly repubelickins that vote for this mess. There’s a reason for Alaska, we can keep all the backwood smoke hicks there.
Let’s face it, after eight years – conservative can’t govern, like at all!

Posted by: ben | September 11, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm

Expand to Meet Military Needs on the Ground: Barack Obama supports plans to increase the size of the Army by 65,000 soldiers and the Marines by 27,000 troops. Increasing our end strength will help units retrain and re-equip properly between deployments and decrease the strain on military families.

Posted by: Eileen | September 11, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm

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Eileen, I don’t listen to Rush. I listen to Brian and the Judge, O’Reilly, Spencer Hughes, Andrew Wilkow, Hannity, and John Gibson.
I don’t have to “make up stuff”, I know my rights and don’t intend for Obammma to take them away.
Perhaps you want to feed at the Chicago machine trough, but I don’t.
Palin – 08

Posted by: LarryMan | September 11, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm

“If we start with the 2nd amendment first, he is on record and saying her supports upholding the constitution, with the exception being to take AK47′s out of the hands of criminals and make it difficult for criminals to get guns.”
Really… because here is what he actually says…complete with cited references so you can look each point up for yourself to see what the truth is…
http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Federal/Read.aspx?id=3991

Posted by: jack burton | September 11, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm

“I think Jack Burton is Karl Rove. Same lame old responses.”
And ~this~ is the very best that j can do, eh.
:-)

Posted by: jack burton | September 11, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm

nevadarose: A mother of 4 is aware of her own body and knows that once labor begins it could be a day or 2 before the baby is born. She knows how it was for the first 4 kids and how her body reacts. I have 2 kids and I was in labor for 3 days with each of them. My water broke on a wednesday and my son was born on friday afternoon. I could have traveled to Japan and back in that time period. the same situation occurred with my second son. It is not fair to criticize her for that.

Posted by: jb | September 11, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm

Larry, sorry but no I’m not just trying to fill the troughs of the Chicago machine, just trying to post the facts as so many people like yourself would rather not take the time to learn them. I just posted his plans for the Military and will be happy to post his energy plans but somehow think your not really interested in knowing the facts.

Posted by: Eileen | September 11, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm

small group of Obama supporters are usually very vocal and very good at making the world think they represent everyone by drowning out other voices and attacking others viciously. Hillary has been the first victim. Women, wake up, if tough as Palin and Hillary can’t even make it to VP (let alone P, who else can? If you are tough and attentive to business, they can say you are not femine and not caring the family enough. If you are attractive and tender, they would say you don’t have enough leadership. If you keep falling for the big trap that the washington establishment set up for you, then no women win. That’s why European are more progressive than the US in this aspect. Even a VP position incurred so much resistence, when the European has strong female leaders decades ago, don’t everybody think we are REALLY REALLY BACKWARD in all these hysteria!!

Posted by: independent heart | September 11, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm

Oh I’m sorry I forgot that the NRA is the most reliable source, silly me. I actually heard Obama say that in person. Why we spend time even talking about the 2nd amendment when we have so many real issues is beyond me. In the meantime our education system is horrible, we are losing jobs, China owns most of our debt, but gosh darn it lets make sure we are all armed! I keep forgetting that is most important, thanks for the reminder Jack and Larry!

Posted by: Eileen | September 11, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm

Eileen – How is obama going to expand the military as you describe? It is easy to get info. from the Obama website, but how is he going to pay for that? Also, you forgot to mention the draft that he will apply. In Feb. 2006 Charlie Rangel (D) wanted to reinstate the draft. I guess that is how obama plans to increase the military.

Posted by: jean | September 11, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm

We need a leader like Sarah Paline in America now. She will be a great president and a great leader.Obama is not a leader, all he talks is this is wrong and that is wrong everything is wrong obout America for him. If he find so much wrong, he should move to Kenya,to his muslim cousin Odinga. We dont need Obama and we dont need Michelle.Every day he insults us Americans.

Posted by: Moe | September 11, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm

“Oh I’m sorry I forgot that the NRA is the most reliable source, silly me.”
Well, since each bullet point about Obama’s views towards firearms came with a specific cite that YOU could check for yourself to see what he actually said then I would heartily agree that you are silly.
And I am not sure why you think that concern about those who would limit constitutional freedom is less important that anything else. Or do you also feel that the arguments concerning the Patriot Act are meaningless?
And since you mention education problems, have you asked Barry what he did with the hundreds of millions of dollars he spent with his terrorist buddy on “improving” Chicago’s schools? They did a real “bang up” job so to speak, eh.

Posted by: jack burton | September 11, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm

Why dont all you Republicans tell me how McCain is going to rebuild the military, you guys are the ones that ruined it to begin with, lets hear it! Also tell me how we are going to eliminate the, what is it now, $700 billion dollar deficit. I’m all ears.

Posted by: Eileen | September 11, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm

OMG I’m shocked by the interview she gave to Charlie Gibson. She’s a total nitwit, an amateur in politics!
Alaska first, Sarah!
Better leave America to Hillary!
And yes, to Obama.
She was even worse than Dan Quale!!! I’m ashamed that it has to be a woman who is so dumb in this race; but I blame McCain, not this hockey mom turned Governor of the less than 700,000 Alaskans….

Posted by: miranda | September 11, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm

You Republicans just like to make stuff up. I especially liked the one yesterday that Obama wants to teach sex education to Pre-schoolers! That was hysterical.

Posted by: Eileen | September 11, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm

Eileen, I’d like to hear that as well. Why should republicans remain in the white house. How will McCain be different.

Posted by: erin | September 11, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm

Shes a disgrace to women. I can’t even put into words how outraged I am but I’ll try…she is a parrot being told what to say and not very well I might add…having been kept from the news since the convention and repeating the same old lies over and over again.She has no strenghs to give this country we’ll be in world war 3 for sure.Thats all Mcstupid talks about,victory in Iraq…how can there be a victory when we a democractic nation invaded an innocent country and killed thousands of their women and children..Osama Bin Laden is from OIL COUNTRY EGYPT (you know the people Bush holds hands with and tells them to make sure their families safely leave the country right after 9/11) What honor us there to be there??? I must be a wack job ….Obama still live on in Afganistan for years untouched by Bush….while McStupid sings BOMB BOMB BOMB IRAN to the tune of Barbara Ann of the Beach Boys….no other issues will matter we will end up going into a nuclear war thanks to these idiots of mass mental stupidity….I’m disgusted with the GOP lies and power hungry people and 8 years of Bush..will we be stupid enough to vote McStupid?? GOD help us!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Jeannette M. Cetnarowski | September 11, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm

As a working mother and grandmother, I just can’t see how Palin can balance being a REAL mother to her children AND run a country. Nothing replaces maternal instinct and I think Palin doesn’t have it. She had a baby…handicapped baby, FIVE months ago and still wants to take on the nation!! What a mother!! I know how hard it is to balance the attention children need and keep a full time job. I just can’t understand why she kept popping out the puppies when she is pursuing a demanding career!! She didn’t have to abort just use some protection!! I think she’s intelligent enough to figure that out!! Actually, I’m just thinking she is just selfish and conceded. Look at me!! I can hunt!! I’m a hockey mom!!

Posted by: Michele | September 11, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm

“You Republicans just like to make stuff up. I especially liked the one yesterday that Obama wants to teach sex education to Pre-schoolers! That was hysterical.”
If you think it is “hysterical” why don’t you quote the bill here so we can all see what he voted for. Because it sure does say that ALL grades would be taught things that many parents would be uncomfortable with.

Posted by: jack burton | September 11, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm

“Why dont all you Republicans tell me how McCain is going to rebuild the military, you guys are the ones that ruined it to begin with, lets hear it!”
Well… as a vet with 26 years in I am not sure that you have it correct about the military being “ruined.” But perhaps you can tell us your military experience so we can judge your beliefs accordingly.
“Also tell me how we are going to eliminate the, what is it now, $700 billion dollar deficit. I’m all ears.”
Barry requested almost a BILLION DOLLARS in earmarks in a part-time three years. McCain has requested none. Perhaps we can start there, eh.

Posted by: jack burton | September 11, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm

Jack, who can argue with your logic? I’m certain the intent wasnt to begin to educate children about predators and inappropriate touching at early age, of course not! It had to be to teach them about sex! Once again I’m so silly in my beliefs.

Posted by: Eileen | September 11, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm

“I just can’t understand why she kept popping out the puppies when she is pursuing a demanding career!! ”
I guess the ol’ feminist motto of “you can have it all” has gone done the tubes, eh.
I’ll be much more careful about either hiring or promoting women in the future if I have the slighest idea they are going to be “popping out puppies.”

Posted by: jack burton | September 11, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm

Gee Jack I dont have military experience, but my husband certainly does! Fortunately I get alot of my military ideas from him. Once again you changed subjects and didnt answer questions.

Posted by: Eileen | September 11, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm

“Jack, who can argue with your logic?”
Still won’t quote the actual legislation, eh.

Posted by: jack burton | September 11, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm

“Gee Jack I dont have military experience, but my husband certainly does! Fortunately I get alot of my military ideas from him. Once again you changed subjects and didnt answer questions.”
Another woman who has to get her information from a “man”? MY wife has 26 years in the military herself. She can think about these issues without me having to “give her military ideas”.
And I didn’t answer it because you started from a false premise. That error in logic doesn’t require an answer.

Posted by: jack burton | September 11, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm

Jack, it is just so stupid, its not worth even arguing with you, your right. Obama wants to ruin the military, the country, our children, he wants to leave us vulnerable to attacks. It gets to be so absurd with you people it just becomes a joke. Once again Republicans just make stuff up and people like you believe it. Its all very sad and its destructive to our great nation and it has been the reason we not find ourselves to be in the position we are in.

Posted by: Eileen | September 11, 2008, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm

My goodness, eileen… someone disagrees with you and has the nerve to actually ask you to back up what you say and your response is to go off on a rant?
Is that the best you can do?
I’m trying very hard to bite my tongue and not say anything about hysterical women but some of you make it very hard on us guys to remain politically correct.

Posted by: jack burton | September 11, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm

I’m would actually be quite surprise if there are more women than men are pro-choice. The liberal ideology of women are pro-choice is stupid. Being a mother is a special feeling to many women. I imagine most mothers would encourage their teens to keep their babies if they make mistakes.
by the way, National Women Organization should changed to Liberal/Democrat National Women Organization since they are not supporting just any woman in high office.

Posted by: hannah | September 11, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm

Jack go to the Illinois General Assembly web site. It has the full text of SB0099 legislation.

Posted by: d | September 11, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm

One of the things I like about Sarah is her AUTHENTICITY. She is who she is and not some fake personality molded for public viewing- all the while hiding her true feelings. I never felt like the Clintons (nor Obama) let their REAL SELF show. They are guarded and calculating, not to be confused with thoughtful and pensive. I get the impression that Sarah is pretty much the same person no matter who she is talking to. I would rather deal with someone who is GENUINE, even if they don’t have the highest IQ in the room, than someone who is SO SMART that they have to manipulate me with what THEY THINK I need to see and hear. Honestly….I can handle the truth.
AVERAGE & REAL VS GENUIS & PHONEY

Posted by: Mitchell | September 11, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm

“Jack go to the Illinois General Assembly web site. It has the full text of SB0099 legislation.”
Sorry, d, but eileen made an accusation. It is up to her to back it up, not up to me to go chasing something down,.

Posted by: jack burton | September 11, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm

It is about time we have a real choice to vote for. Palin is a breath of fresh air and it shows the kind of leader McCain will be that he choose her. To bad Obamba… you lose!

Posted by: Kathleen | September 11, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm

This post is so long that I am not sure if this already has been brought up. Remember that Sarah Palin tried to ban classic novels from a library, and then tried to fire the librarian for not obliging. That in itself is enough reason to keep her as far from the White House as possible.

Posted by: Ann | September 11, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm

Palin is a Stepford Wife/Vice President. Either she was programmed by McCain or some foreign entity.
LarryMan is grammatically challenged, therefore his comments should not be considered valid.
Democrat until Republicans show intelligence,
Kate

Posted by: Kate | September 11, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm

Ann, I completely agree! Isn’t that what the Nazi’s did? It would be extremely dangerous to have Palin in office.

Posted by: Beth | September 11, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm

Ms. Palin’s comments about the bridge to no-where remind me of how important it is for Obama to get on message about the need for us to get onto the bridge to somewhere. He needs to contrast her trite, repetitive mantra, with something substantive. We must get onto the Bridge to Somewhere, with good leadership, vision for the future, paid for not by earmarks but by our effort and intelligence to create a better society. As women, we have fought to gain financial indpendence (remember when we could only get a credit card in our husbands’ name?, control over our bodies (Our Bodies Ourselves) and equal pay for equal work. McCain doesn’t see us as equals, nor does he see Sarah Palin as an equal.
Let’s go after a national child care policy, encompassing the needs of all mothers/fathers with respect to children… from health care, to child care, educational support and neighborhood safety. Now is the time we need to speak up and articulate our agenda. Lynn

Posted by: lynn | September 11, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm

“Remember that Sarah Palin tried to ban classic novels from a library, and then tried to fire the librarian for not obliging. ”
When the dims have to resort to outright lying to try to advance their case then we know we’ve already won.
http://www.bookpatrol.net/2008/09/sara-palins-library-issue-is-now.html

Posted by: jack burton | September 11, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm

Every woman who wants to keep her rights, safety, and equality should read the following:
Women: *Please* email this to 5 women that you know:
From:
Head of State
http://tinyurl.com/65qxee
Sunday, September 07, 2008
10 Ways in Which, For Women, Sarah Palin Is *Exactly* Like George W. Bush
1) Like Bush, she is completely against a woman’s right to choose (in fact, she exceeds Bush in that she is against a woman’s right to choose even in cases of rape or incest;
2) Like Bush, she opposes stem cell research to prevent fatal diseases in men, women and children;
3) Like Bush, supports the teaching of Creationism alongside Evolution in public schools;
4) Like Bush, does not believe that Global Warming is man made;
5) Like Bush, has supported abstinence-only sex education methods that have proven ineffective;
6) Like Bush, has virtually no foreign policy experience prior to running for national office–(in Palin’s case, despite a 72-year old, chronically ill running mate)
7) Like Bush, has engaged in conduct that has resulted in current government investigation of her actions;
8) Like Bush, has made statements which indicate lack of knowledge of basic elements of the office they are running for (Palin, July 2008: “What exactly does the Vice President do everyday?”);
9) Like Bush, has been sequestered to prevent her being asked questions that she has not yet been prepared to answer;
10) Like Bush, talks like a reformer–yet in her actions (i.e., relying on lobbying, supporting the Bridge to Nowhere before she was against it) acts in the most typical, all-too-familiar fashion.
H/T: On The Issues
Cite:
Head of State
http://tinyurl.com/65qxee

Posted by: Cara Prado | September 11, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm

NEWS FLASH SHOCKER!!:
Father of Bristol Palin’s baby speaks…
http://www.blackbottom.com/watch.php?v=WdBJd9b9i8A
You all should at least watch this link. It’s probably going to be deleted soon. Another Palin family shocker….
This is just too much of a SHOCKER!

Posted by: tbstang | September 11, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm

Nonetheless, Sarah Palin has demonstrated extreme immorality in her decision making. A woman lacking such morals should be feared by all.

Posted by: Beth | September 11, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm

Nonetheless, Sarah Palin has demonstrated extreme immorality in her decision making. A woman lacking such morals should be feared by all.

Posted by: Beth | September 11, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm

“Nonetheless, Sarah Palin has demonstrated extreme immorality in her decision making. A woman lacking such morals should be feared by all.”
So even though you found yourself agreeing with a complete lie you choose to label Gov. Palin “immoral”?
:-)

Posted by: jack burton | September 11, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm

Ann – that is incorrect. She never tried to ban any book. She asked a question of the librarian as to how she would feel if asked to ban a book. Palin did not, however, ban anything. The list of banned books being circulated that is attributed to Palin is actually a list of books that have been banned by various people at different times. The list includes all of the Harry Potter books, none of which was even published when this allegedly took place 12 years ago.

Posted by: Joanne600 | September 11, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm

Reading some of these angry, whiny posts against Sarah Palin, one can see why the streets of New York are full of single women, mouths set in grim lines, clutching their elbows while striding home in the evening to empty apartments that will never know the blessing of a warm,loving touch.

Posted by: Duard | September 11, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm

I don’t know if Beth was referring to the book banning or not. Without that, many other decisions made by Palin were extremely immoral, or unethical at the very least.

Posted by: Lynn | September 11, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm

I can’t believe there are actually women stupid enough to fall for this Palin idiocy. Republicans bank on voters being stupid- this time they’ve narrowed it down to women. Palin’s a moron, anybody catch her ABC interview? Talk about a moose in the headlights. She had no idea what “Bush doctrine” is. And then the Republicans called ABC to whine that Gibson was “mean” to her. That interview was a disaster… even if you put lipstick on it, it was still a pig.

Posted by: Jade | September 11, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm

Duard, you can be sure of one thing. With McCain/Palin in office, many more women will be out in the streets

Posted by: Lynn | September 11, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm

Visit the blog
http://womenagainstsarahpalin.blogspot.com
I am heartened and proud to see all the articulate, well-thought-out comments from women of all ages and walks of life. (Unlike the shrill name-calling from both the left and right you find so many places on the internet).
Sarah Palin does not speak for me.

Posted by: JD | September 11, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm

I’ll bet the real “Head of State” (Bill Clinton) prefers Sarah over Hillary

Posted by: Boss Marston | September 11, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm

Google Dominionism. The AOG church Sarah Palin was a member of for 20+ years WANTS religious war. They believe it is the responsibility of the United States to have dominion in the name of Jesus over the entire Earth. Dominion is also created by doing business in exclusive religious cartels.
Palin also took a town that was in the black and left it $20 million in the red AND without decent roads or city planning. She is the queen of earmarks in a state that gets the 3rd highest per capital federal dollars in the union. She used our taxes to buy popularity in her state. She also deliberately ignored the advice of Alaska’s professional scientists, who said moose populations in the state are not in danger of decimation by wolves and Palin’s estimate of optimal moose counts is too high. She ignored them in order to subsidize, with tax dollars, rich hunters running wolves down in airplanes and then hacking off their left front leg to be turned in for a $150. bounty.

Posted by: eye | September 11, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm

Jealous old hags, militant lesbians, and Tigerbeat Teenagers pretty much make up the Anti-Palin group.
Of course add the women who think that a female must be liberal, like they think all blacks most act in group think (I loved that post) and you have a grasp of what makes up the self righteous media as well.

Posted by: TiminPhx | September 11, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm

Like Bush, she is completely against a woman’s right to choose (in fact, she exceeds Bush in that she is against a woman’s right to choose even in cases of rape or incest;
[Yeah… desiring innocent babies to live is a sign of a real meanie.]
Like Bush, she opposes stem cell research to prevent fatal diseases in men, women and children;
[first lie, but not the last. Please find anywhere, any legitimate cite, that shows that Gov. Palin or Pres. Bush is “against” stem cell research. Be specific. Give detail. But you can’t, can you. Because you just made that up out of thin air.]
Like Bush, supports the teaching of Creationism alongside Evolution in public schools;
[Second lie.
When asked during a televised debate in 2006 about evolution and
creationism, Palin said, according to the Anchorage Daily News: "Teach both.
You know, don't be afraid of information. Healthy debate is so important,
and it's so valuable in our schools. I am a proponent of teaching both."
In a subsequent interview with the Daily News, Palin said discussion of
alternative views on the origins of life should be allowed in Alaska
classrooms. "I don't think there should be a prohibition against debate if
it comes up in class. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE PART OF THE CURRICULUM," she
said.
So why did you lie? Because you depend upon biased media for your
information? Because you're ignorant? Because you are a Democrat? All of the
above?]
Like Bush, does not believe that Global Warming is man made;
[Gee… just like tens of thousand of climate scientists across the globe. ]
Like Bush, has supported abstinence-only sex education methods that have proven ineffective;
[Thirty percent of teen girls get pregnant. SEVENTY percent of African American teens get pregnant. That standard sex education in school is proving highly effective, eh. And by the way… this is the third lie…,
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-sexed6-2008sep06,0,3119305.story
and here…
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=OGRkNDJlMjMxMTI2MWE4OWUyNDI2NDdkOGUxNTc1Njg= ]
Like Bush, has virtually no foreign policy experience prior to running for national office–(in Palin’s case, despite a 72-year old, chronically ill running mate)
[Like Obama, has virtually no foreign policy experience prior to running for national office.
Like Bill Clinton, has virtually no foreign policy experience prior to running for national office.
Like Edwards, has virtually no foreign policy experience prior to running for national office.
Want to play this game some more?].
Like Bush, has engaged in conduct that has resulted in current government investigation of her actions;
[Democratic presidential candidate from Alaska, Sen. Mike Gravel, explains that this is a trumped up, bogus charge against Gov. Palin.
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/09/comedy-gold-lefty-radio-hosts-crestfallen-as-palin-defended-by-mike-gravel/ ]
Like Bush, has made statements which indicate lack of knowledge of basic elements of the office they are running for (Palin, July 2008: “What exactly does the Vice President do everyday?”);
[Fourth lie. But consistent. Why not give the full quote? Because it will show your lie?]
Like Bush, has been sequestered to prevent her being asked questions that she has not yet been prepared to answer;
[Yeppers… the fact that no one every watches ABC News is proof of this lie.]
Like Bush, talks like a reformer–yet in her actions (i.e., relying on lobbying, supporting the Bridge to Nowhere before she was against it) acts in the most typical, all-too-familiar fashion.
[So changing one’s mind to ensure the community is better off is somehow “wrong” That’s quite some standard there.]

Posted by: jack burton | September 11, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm

“I don’t know if Beth was referring to the book banning or not. Without that, many other decisions made by Palin were extremely immoral, or unethical at the very least.”
lynn… doesn’t the concept that one of your cherished beliefs turns out to be completely wrong make you at least ~wonder~ about some of the other things you “know” about Gov. Palin?

Posted by: jack burton | September 11, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm

American women better hope Palin doesn’t become the next VP. You want the first woman VP or President to be someone totally qualified for the job, and not just a token candidate. If she does turn out not to be ready, she will push the women’s movement so far back that another woman will probably not be nominated for a very long time. I want so much to see equality be given to women, and have a woman finally crack that highest glass ceiling, but not this way, and not with this one!

Posted by: Andrea | September 11, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm

“She had no idea what “Bush doctrine” is. ”
1) At times, Bush had no idea what the Bush doctrine was/is. Ask five people who study the issue and you’ll get seven or eight answers.
2) Sorry, but there is nothing in the video that backs up what you just posted. She merely asked for clarification of a question that was far too broadbased to be of any value.
3) If someone asks you, “What is your favorite?” I would bet that your answer is “favorite what?” Does that indeed mean that YOU don’t know what your favorite is?

Posted by: jack burton | September 11, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm

“…not just a token candidate.”
I find it so fascinating that the elected governor of a state is a “token” because she doesn’t adhere to the “accepted liberal mindset.”

Posted by: jack burton | September 11, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm

I’ve just finished watching a video log of the 9/11 terrorist attacks. How easily and quickly we forget! Do you think that the appeasement that Obama offers is the answer? Then you are doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past.
I won’t be doomed with you, though, because I’m voting for McCain/Palin. They have the courage of their convictions–something that Obama/Biden haven’t demonstrated. Your anger is so revealing–could there be a touch of regret/guilt over your “choice” to blithely obliterate a human life with an earlier abortion?

Posted by: Nancy Y. Jordan | September 11, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm

Yes! Crush this filthy vile sickening excuse for a woman. We will not let her hang out with the in crowd. She will not get invited to any of the good partys. We will exclude her and bully her until she slits her wrists.
The womans club is sickening!
Leftism is so lost in hate that I wonder why it exsists at all. Sickening.

Posted by: Hillary Flintstone | September 11, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm

Nancy Y. Jordan – I have a question for you, since your memory is so much better than ours. What is the reason we are in Iraq? Please do not say it’s because of 9/11!

Posted by: Andrea | September 11, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm

“She had no idea what “Bush doctrine” is. ”
From Wikipedia…
The Bush Doctrine is a phrase used to describe VARIOUS RELATED [emph. mine] foreign policy principles of United States president George W. Bush, created in the wake of the September 11, 2001 attacks. The phrase initially described the policy that the United States had the right to treat countries that harbor or give aid to terrorist groups as terrorists themselves, which was used to justify the invasion of Afghanistan.[1] Later it came to include additional elements, including the controversial policy of preventive war, which held that the United States should depose foreign regimes that represented a threat to the security of the United States, even if that threat was not immediate (used to justify the invasion of Iraq), a policy of supporting democracy around the world, especially in the Middle East, as a strategy for combating the spread of terrorism, and a willingness to pursue U.S. military interests in a unilateral way.[2][3][4] Some of these policies were codified in a National Security Council text entitled the National Security Strategy of the United States published on September 20, 2002
—————————-
I’m positive that if Gov. Palin announced that she developed a cure for both cancer and AIDs you folk would be on the net that very day posting that this proves she apparently really didn’t care about people with liver disease.

Posted by: jack burton | September 11, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm

Yes, Andrea, indirectly, that IS the reason. And let me ask you one–are you one of those who believe that 9/11 was a Republican plot fomented to provide an excuse to invade Iraq for its oil?

Posted by: Nancy Y. Jordan | September 11, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm

I am a white woman college educated medical professional and registered Republican. I was totally excited about Sarah Palin being chosen. My excitement soon turned to disappointment. I have just recently retired from my lifelong job as a medical professional. Friday morning I started my search on Sarah Palim. I found lots of “red alarms”.
I wanted to make sure I was not voting for a ticket merely because of gender. I saw she gave an excellent speech. I nneded to find out who she was and if I saw any patterns that would casue problems. I did!
(1)Acceptance Speech – CLAIM SHE TOOK ON GOOD OLE BOY IN CLEANING UP POLITICAL CORRUPTION ALASKA – NOT TRUE – FBI WAS DOING BEFORE SHE TOOK OFFICE. FBI STARTED 2004. FIRST LEGISLATOR OFFICE RAID AUG, 2004. SARAH PALIN RAN FOR GOVERNORS OFFIXE ON “CHANGE”, ELECTED TO OFFICE NOV, 2006. SARAH PALIN DID NOT START INVESTIGATION. SARAH PALIN AND ALASKA GOPVERNMENT DID NOT DO ANY OF INVESTIGATION. FBI INDICTED 11 REPUBLICAN LEGISLATORS, NO DEMOCRATS +LOBBYIST + OIL EXECUTIVES + OTHERS. SARAH PALIN HAS DONE NOTHING BUT RIDE THE WAVE. CLAIMS TO ALASKANS SHE IS CLEANING UP GOVERNMENT. FACT IS FBI IS DOING. Go google Alaska Political Corruption – go to wikipedia. Info is there and can more up in Alaska.
(3)CLAIM SHE SAID NO TO BRIDGE TO NOWWHERE – Not true -fact checked – lied – She was totally supporting – then when it died in washington and was killed, she changed stance and klilled it in Alaska – but biggest fact is Washington still gave Alaska the money but labeled under different category. she accepted the money – verified lie all news media + fact check.com
(4)As mayor of Wasilla she starting building sports complex she got earmark money for without having legal title to land it was built on – Wasilla still in legal litigation- almost $2,000,000 dollars more for land- plus legal fees- land was actually sold to someone else since city of Wasila did not confirm actual sale final papers.
(5)Sarah Palin – Almost recalled as serving as mayor of Wasilla. Fired many staff, librarian and police chief. Recall Group of citizens formed as librarian quite popular and Palin forced to rehire librarian. Police Chief not as popular since he want to close bars at 2am instead of leaving open until 5am- statistics proff showed dramatic increase crime early morning hours and was getting out of hand. City did not like bars closed?? Residents Upset. Police Chief sued city. Judge in court transcripts stated police chief only lost because his legal signed document with former mayor stating he could only be fired for poor performance was not passed though city council. Was oversight by prior mayor. Palin was forced to get city administrator.
(5)Palin is under legislative investigation as governor at present – complaint is she fired poiice commissioner because he would not fire her brother inlaw. Her sister was involved nasty divorce. Some complaints about divorce and complaint ledges she continued to pressure to have brother inlaw fired even after being ggovernor. Legislative and judiciary branches of Alaska government voted for the investigation. They hired a private out side attorney. Palin said she had nothing to hide. Then proof started showing not true. Then she got chosen as Vice President. Then she hired her own defense attorney to defend herself and her administration. Now her attorney is attempting to take investigation away from legislature and judiciary arms of government. Palin files complaint against herself. Her attorney says they want Ethics Board to handle. But Ethic Board is a Governor appointed committee?? Conflict of interest and bias may be present. Her attorney has been taking all depositions. He is sending to Ethic Board. There has been with holding of emails and other information and claims of executive privilege. Legislative and judiciary branch had already gotten some depositions and appears some damaging information. Released were audio tapes of one conversation in attempt to let public know some problems, plus some incriminating emails shown from Palin to Monegan Police Commisssioner fired, to fire her brother inlaw. Relased by Monegan to major news outlet. Now attorney is attempting to block the supenas to get deposition by attorney legislature and judiciary officials hired. The elected officials on the voted for legislative investigative committee are bipartisan. There are about 4-5 Democrats and 10 Republicans. Number may be wrong slightly as info on affiliated parties vague.
I do know Republicans far outnumber Democrats. It appears major cover – up is being attempted by Palin. McCain also has top attorneys up there.
Please read below latest news article today
News articled from Wall Street Journal – September 11 – may go to website to verify
ANCHORAGE, Alaska — An informal adviser who has counseled Gov. Sarah Palin on ethics issues urged her in July to apologize for her handling of the dismissal of the state’s public safety commissioner and warned that the matter could snowball into a bigger scandal.
He also said, in a letter reviewed by The Wall Street Journal, that she should fire any aides who had raised concerns with the chief over a state trooper who was involved in a bitter divorce with the governor’s sister.
In the letter, written before Sen. John McCain picked the Alaska governor as his running mate, former U.S. Attorney Wevley Shea warned Gov. Palin that “the situation is now grave” and recommended that she and her husband, Todd Palin, apologize for “overreaching or perceived overreaching” for using her position to try to get Trooper Mike Wooten fired from the force.
Mr. Shea was acting on his own in writing the letter, with no official capacity. In late 2006, Gov. Palin asked him to co-write an ethics report for Gov. Palin with then-House Democratic leader Ethan Berkowitz that recommended new financial-disclosure rules for elected and appointed officials in the statehouse. That report served as a key document for the ethics bill she later signed into law.
Read the letters from Wevley Shea to Gov. Palin and her aides.
After his initial letter in July, Mr. Shea followed up with another letter, dated Aug. 4, in which he told Gov. Palin that she probably couldn’t legally shun a legislative investigation into the firing of Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan.
Gov. Palin has taken the opposite tack, hiring a private attorney to advise in a matter that has become known as “Troopergate.” Seven Palin administration employees have refused to meet with the independent investigator. The McCain-Palin campaign has argued that the state legislature has no right to look into the matter. Palin spokesmen say the state personnel board is the appropriate investigative body, setting up a showdown between the state’s legislative and executive branches.
The McCain-Palin campaign referred comment on the letters to the governor’s office, which confirmed receipt of them. “While we can’t always act on every idea, Gov. Palin thanks Mr. Shea for his counsel,” Sharon Leighow, the governor’s deputy press secretary, said in a statement.
Members of the House and Judiciary committees overseeing the probe — which lawmakers want wrapped up by early October — meet Friday to consider issuing subpoenas to the governor’s staff.
Mr. Shea, in his Aug. 4 letter, warned Gov. Palin against taking her current approach. “My feeling is this is not a personnel matter. It doesn’t have anything to do with the governing of the state of Alaska,” he said in an interview this week.
The governor has denied any wrongdoing in the matter and said the commissioner was removed over an unrelated budget dispute. After bipartisan committees of the state legislature in late July approved $100,000 to hire an independent investigator to see if any laws were broken, Gov. Palin pledged the full cooperation of herself and her staff.
I find many other issues/problems with Sarah Palin too. Would take a book. Women’s issues would never be addressed by her. John McCain has never voted for women’s issues. McCain spoke he does not support equal pay.
As a woman I can not support Sarah Palin. I can not vote for John McCain.

Posted by: Sharonklim | September 11, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm

jack burton – you are quoting the oh so reliable Wikipedia? The website where anyone with access to a computer can update the contents of each web page? Really?!

Posted by: Andrea | September 11, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm

Why isn’t anyone pointing out that if McCain kicks the bucket Palin’s vice president will be Nancy Pelosi. Imagine the cat fights!

Posted by: tlucian | September 11, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm

“Nancy Y. Jordan – I have a question for you, since your memory is so much better than ours. What is the reason we are in Iraq? Please do not say it’s because of 9/11!”
HERE YA GO… A TRIP DOWN MEMORY LANE…
“In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members…
It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well, effects American security.
This is a very difficult vote, this is probably the hardest decision I’ve ever had to make. Any vote that might lead to war should be hard, but I cast it with conviction.”
Senator Hillary Clinton (Democrat, New York)
Addressing the US Senate
October 10, 2002

Posted by: jack burton | September 11, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm

The democrats love womens rights…..as long the woman is leftwing, she has rights. Their problem with Sarah Palin is two fold. First and foremost she represents a threat to their ideology. She’s reached the place she stands from an extremely humble beginning, She didn’t come up through the ranks of the enlightened elite. The American people look at Sarah Palin as one of their own, she could be somebodies mom, neighbor, coworker, or wife. Liberals can’t seem to understand that simple fact. Little Towns like Wasilla Alaska are where a good portion of America grew up. I don’t think calling their inhabitants backwards trailer trash is a good plan for winning an election.

Posted by: Mike L. | September 11, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm

OR MAYBE YOU’LL LIKE THIS ONE BETTER…
“In the next century, the community of nations may see more and more the very kind of threat Iraq poses now — a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction ready to use them or provide them to terrorists, drug traffickers or organized criminals who travel the world among us unnoticed.
If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow by the knowledge that they can act with impunity, even in the face of a clear message from the United Nations Security Council and clear evidence of a weapons of mass destruction program.”
President Clinton
Address to Joint Chiefs of Staff and Pentagon staff
February 17, 1998

Posted by: jack burton | September 11, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm

I KINDA THINK THIS ONE IS SPECIAL, COMING FROM A WOMAN AND ALL…
“Iraq is a long way from Ohio, but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face.”
Madeleine Albright, President Clinton’s Secretary of State
Town Hall Meeting on Iraq at Ohio State University
February 18, 1998

Posted by: jack burton | September 11, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm

PERHAPS THIS QUOTE WILL HELP YOU OUT…
Regime change in Iraq has been official US policy since 1998. The Iraq Liberation Act of 1998, signed into law by President Clinton, states:
“It should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime.”
Iraq Liberation Act of 1998
105th Congress, 2nd Session
September 29, 1998

Posted by: jack burton | September 11, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm

We should start a Obama isnt a real man club. You know stop him from catching on. Make kinda like a way point for emails and information backing up the fact that Obama isnt a real man. yaaa thats a great idea. NOT. Men extend basic respect for the most part and dont (I repeat) dont act like 8 year olds. Grow up ladys of the left because the light your standing in isnt flattering at all.

Posted by: Hillary Flintstone | September 11, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm

Wow! Now thatis a big surprise, Women Against Sarah Palin. I think that group goes by NOW. Let’s call them what they really are, pro-choice women against Sarah Palin.

Posted by: Educator | September 11, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm

“jack burton – you are quoting the oh so reliable Wikipedia? The website where anyone with access to a computer can update the contents of each web page? Really?!”
You’re welcome to point out where wiki was anywhere in error in what I posted. Be specific. Give detail.
If you won’t (or, as is the real case, can’t) then your post was pretty pointless, eh.

Posted by: jack burton | September 11, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm

Yes, Andrea, indirectly, that IS the reason. And let me ask you one–are you one of those who believe that 9/11 was a Republican plot fomented to provide an excuse to invade Iraq for its oil?
Posted by: Nancy Y. Jordan | Sep 11, 2008 11:17:02 PM
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Hi Nancy – If I remember correctly, we invaded Iraq, because Bush/Cheney/McCain and our government believed that Saddam Hussein is a threat to America, because he had WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION! How quickly we forget our modern American history! As much as I agree with us being in Afghanistan, because that’s where Bin Laden was (the guy that actually put together the attacks on American on 9/11), I would have to say that we have failed miserably in both Afghanistan and Iraq. Seven years later, we still haven’t caught Bin Laden, and because our military has become overextended with both wars, Bin Laden is now in Pakistan! Years later, we still haven’t found the “Weapons of Mass Destruction” that Saddam Hussein was supposed to be hiding. We have over 4000 dead American soldiers, no Bin Laden, no “Weapons of Mass Destruction”, billions of dollars spent, and we can’t get out of either war. Now what reasons will McCain/Palin give us in order to invade Iran and North Korea next?

Posted by: Andrea | September 11, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm

So, women who are OPPOSED to the election of McCain are advising us that they should be happy with his VP selection? Is this a new kind of logic?

Posted by: james wilson | September 11, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm

“Why isn’t anyone pointing out that if McCain kicks the bucket Palin’s vice president will be Nancy Pelosi. Imagine the cat fights!”
I would guess that no one is pointing it out is because it is not true. But that’s just my best guess.
Perhaps you can explain how Rockefeller wound up as VP for Ford instead of the then Speaker of the House.
Don’t they teach anything in school today?

Posted by: jack burton | September 11, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm

Before posting my comments I took the time to read each and every comment on this board. It does not matter if a person is a liberal , conserative,or anything inbetween. Each person has an emotional reaction to Ms. Palin. Why? I do not know. I have read that one woman would vote for her because she has a gun. Does having a gun make anyone a good choice for VP? I have a gun too. I have taken the time to read as much about Ms. Palin as I can and she is just NOT qualified for the job of VP. I too not only own a gun but have been a hard working mother, while taking care of my elderly grandmother, and a special needs child and being on chemo during this time . If Ms. Palin is qualifyed to be a VP and most likly step into the Presidency (if Mc Cain wins that is which is unlikely), why , when she became Mayor of a small town did she hand over the job to someone who easily handled the job themsleves. My entire family on both sides have acted with old fashioned patriotism , all the way back to the American Revolution. But does this make me qualified to be the potential leader of the most powerful country in known history? No. Nor is Ms. Palin. She is correct in defining herself as a pitbull with lipstick. That is her only statement of her qualificaions. Yes, have listened to her speak, and gave Mc Cain the same chance. He has had his chance to make change , after serving his country for 26 years, and look at the mess our country is now in. To the person who said that Barack speaks badly must have mistaken him for someone else. His mannor of speach is clear, to the point , and is a gentleman. Not a doggy. Ms. Palin reminds me of highschool and the haughty cheerleaders who thought that they had a voice only for the beautiful, (or God , whom Ms Palin seems to know and speak to and for.When I was young a person who claimed to speak to God was promtly put into a mental hospital) Its the work of the ordinary person that is the back bone of this wonderful country. Mc Cain flaunts the sad fate he endured as a captured soldier. But he knew the risks when he signed up. At least he is still here amoung the living. I have a few relatives whos bodies were never found. Not even a bone to bury with honor. Ms. Palin flaunts her disabled child like a shield. I have a disabled child too and would never do that to my dear daughter. That is disrespectful to all women and men who have special needs children. So what is her problem.? I dont know. I still do not know what her views are , really. Only that she gave her daughter the choice that she would gladly take away from the rest of us. The old definition of a Republican is ” socialy hands off and ecomicaly conservative. ” Period. Does Ms Palin or Mc Cain, stand up to this very real definition of a Republican? To those who think liberals are pot smoking , drooling morons, you would be suprised who is a Democrate or liberal . Many Republicans are far more liberal than one might think. You never know what your neighbor is Really thinking until you ask. Ms. Palin is Not VP material . And I do ask. Everyone I have asked are frightened. Not because of what Ms. Palin stands (which is still unclear)for but what she does. That pistol packing momma should go back to her pom poms and gun and get back to her assault against her own environment , and shoot animals. There are many people better qualified to be VP than her and I do not care if its a male or female. Its about who is qualifed for the job. Ms. Palin is not. (I regret repeating myself and will most likely get some feedback on that one) but Ms. Palin seems to bring out the worst in most everyone. What will she do if she becomes (unfortuantely) President,? How will she handle the abuse she will get from other countries . Go to war with them because they disagree with her. ? Our country is on the verge of a great new road to follow. Will we follow the old road or step into the new ? So far the old road has taken us nowhere but down. I will proudly vote for Barack Obama and Biden . They are more qualifed to lead us to a new world order , And no one can figure out why the rest of the world hate Americans.? Just go to a forgien country and actually talk to real ordinary people and see what they say. I have. Have you? But it does not matter if you have had the good luck to acutally speak to others of different cultures , religion or nationalailty within their own countries, there are many legal immigratnts who will gladly give you a different perspective if you bother to ask. My long time neighbor was from Germany and lived with her mother during WW 11. I also worked for a very kindly Jewish family, two gay men who had 50 happy years of co habitation. The one sadly passed away while I was working for them. This country is made up not only of Christians but of many different religions , cultures and opinions. That is what America is supose to be. The bottom line. Its about being informed and make the good choice. This is it friends. Will we survive the next 4 years . Its up to us to decide and believe me the entire world is watching what we do. Good luck to America.

Posted by: Louise | September 11, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm

And seven years later, Andrea, we have had no more terrorist attacks on our country. That doesn’t sound like “failure” to me!

Posted by: Nancy Y. Jordan | September 11, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm

kids, it’s been fun but it’s getting past my bedtime.
if anyone is still posting tomorrow I might bring myself to join you.
But just remember, virtually everything said about the Governor here has been proven to be either mistaken or an outright, knowing lie. Keep that in mind as you read any further posts.
And that’s my “preemptive strike” for truth, goodness, and the American way. (and apple pie too)
Oh… and in a bit of shameless promotion since the holidays are approaching if you want the absolute best ever recipe for Turkey Dressing you can look here:
http://hubpages.com/hub/Jacks-World-Famous-Thanksgiving-StuffingDressing

Posted by: jack burton | September 11, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm

goodnight jack.

Posted by: Nancy Y. Jordan | September 11, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm

Are you implying that we cannot protect our own land without having to invade every country we think might have terrorists? Put yourself in Iran’s place, if a foreign land invaded Canada and Mexico, wouldn’t you want to ready yourself too, in case this foreign land decides that we should be invaded too?

Posted by: Andrea | September 11, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm

Quote:
I want someone with INTELLIGENCE and good judgement to be in charge.
I want someone who can spell judgment to judge others.

Posted by: Suuzi62 | September 11, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm

Quote:
I want someone with INTELLIGENCE and good judgement to be in charge.
I want someone who can spell judgment to judge others.

Posted by: Suuzi62 | September 11, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm

Damn, my keyboard must be stuck again.

Posted by: Suuzi62 | September 11, 2008, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm

Nancy – In addition, if your logic is that we need to invade countries where terrorists are, in order to make our country safe. Should we then invade Iran, Pakistan, Lebanon, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, The Philippines and Indonesia too? Not to mention that there are terrorist cells all over Europe and North Africa as well. Should our military be over there too?

Posted by: Andrea | September 11, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm

The right wing is able to sit, listen,learn and adapt. We welcome Obama into the Game and look forward to forever including African Americans at all levels of politics. Why are Average American women silenced by the left. Like it or not Woman, REAL Woman now have a voice at the highest level. These women combined with the men who love them will carry Sara Palin to the White House. Your small world is shrinking and your logic is flawed, 50 years has pickled your brains.

Posted by: Hillary Flintstone | September 11, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm

I am struck dumb by Governor Palin’s response to the Bush Doctrine question. That she knew nothing about it is bad enough for someone who could become the leader of the free world, but the way she tried to pretend that she knew was embarrassing and frightening. What are we supposed to do if she becomes VP? Invest in bomb shelters? Will someone please tell her Russia has nukes?

Posted by: Beep | September 11, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm

I am a mother and I am a republican. I would like to know how is that a woman knew she was carrying an unborn child diagnosed with Down syndrome ,travels 12 hours in labor (after her water break) to Alaska from Texas by plane. Did her trie to kill her unborn baby? my doctor tell me that I can kill my baby or she will be brain dead.

Posted by: melissa | September 11, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm

You think this is bad google about John MCCAin saying about women being rape and enjoying it and mention ape or monkey. We as women need to tied these two together and make sure everyone see it…..

Posted by: Ann | September 11, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm

Ann – if you want to hear something appaling? When Palin was mayor of Wasilla, the city billed sexual assault victims and their insurance companies for the cost of rape kits and forensic examinations. Read the link below if you want more info.
They made the rape victim pay? What kind of justice is that? She might be a woman, but she is totally out-of-touch with the needs of women.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jfTm-bOoREGlDJnQXYG9I2CDN-wQD934SK0G0

Posted by: Andrea | September 12, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am

Seven years. No memorial. No Osama bin Laden. A lot of red ink going towards invading the wrong country: http://zfacts.com/p/447.html . Oh, but it’s not patriotic to want a President who might know enough about the Middle East to have predicted that the Sunni and the Shia Muslims in Iraq might just go back to their centuries-old conflict. It’s not patriotic to want our C in C to make sure he is not wasting the lives of our troops in a bogged down mess like VietNam and Iraq. If we vote for Obama, someone might say we are jealous of Sarah Palin’s looks. I quiver in fear of the insult. I’d rather face Russia’s nukes when McCain loses his terrible temper with Putin or Palin declares war. Riiiight.

Posted by: Beep | September 12, 2008, 12:01 am 12:01 am

She did make rape victims pay for their rape kits. And yet she doesn’t balance budgets. The neocon way–stick it to the little people; kiss the behinds of the superrich, wage wars on the credit card, and call anybody who disagrees with you an “elitist”. If you can spell it. I am not voting for the guy who will tax me for the health benefits I get from my employer, who can’t remember how many homes he owns, who is totally out of touch with the challenges facing people who only earn the nation’s median income, and who would choose a VP who has no knowledge of the world beyond our borders.

Posted by: Beep | September 12, 2008, 12:11 am 12:11 am

Ladies,you’re insecurity is showing. I’ll bet most of you live in the city and are afraid of breaking your nails or mussing your hair. I’d rather have Sarah Palin for president than Nancy Pelosi. I just can’t see Hillary, Nancy, & Michelle all together without a cat fight…much like all of you. Your lives must be empty and void to carry on so. Such anger and poison. Just like a Dem to tear down and destroy what they can’t understand and are afraid of…the only way to conquer is to smear and degrade.

Posted by: strongerthanyou | September 12, 2008, 12:14 am 12:14 am

Why isn’t anyone pointing out that if McCain kicks the bucket Sarah Palin’s vice president will be Nancy Pelosi due to presidential succession? Yes, this evolving drama can get even weirder!

Posted by: tlucian | September 12, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am

I am really disturbed by the lack of education most of you people obviously have. First of all, where do you get by assuming that McCain only picked Palin because she is a woman and trying to get women’s votes?? All of you who think so are a product of far left media coverage and are obviously stupid enough to be brainwashed. All you liberal women against Palin should take a good hard look at your presidential candidate and realize that he has a thinner resume than Palin. It is appalling that you would disgrace a women because she doesn’t share the same views as you. If anything, Palin on the ticket has proven that feminists only support liberal women…and all you liberal feminists and liberal feminists groups have now been proven to be frauds. If you are a group who support the advancement of liberal women then give yourself that title… but don’t pretend you are advocating for all women because it is now very apparent that you are not.

Posted by: Elyse | September 12, 2008, 12:23 am 12:23 am

I’ll bet most of you live in the city and are afraid of breaking your nails or mussing your hair.
Posted by: strongerthanyou | Sep 12, 2008 12:14:35 AM
It sounds like your only qualifications for someone to become a leader of this country, is for that person be able to shoot moose, fish and live in a small town. I think it’s great that she can do all those things, be a mother, play basketball, etc., etc., but that doesn’t automatically mean she is what’s best for our nation. We are upset, because we care about this country! We care about the direction our country is headed! We keep ourselves informed, because we care! If we think someone is not right to lead this country, then we speak our minds. Isn’t that what being an American is supposed to be?

Posted by: Andrea | September 12, 2008, 12:25 am 12:25 am

I thought the Bush/Cheney team was the worst in US history (HNN Poll: 61% of Historians Rate the Bush Presidency Worst), but McCain/Palin would have them beat-that’s what you get when public education is devalued.
Obama was president of Harvard Law Review, McCain was a legacy (and adulterer) and Palin barely finished college.

Posted by: lilyx | September 12, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am

This election is too important to be sidetracked by this nonsense. Sarah Palin is not running for President. McCain is. We need to quit focusing on the Jerry Springer Show that is Sarah Palin and focus on the real issues–the economy, the wars, education, global warming, skyrocketing energy costs, unemployment, the failing banks, etc. McCain is part of the party that brought us this nightmare;before this year he was proud to be photographed with George Bush, to be seen as an ally of our current President. So how is this man going to even begin to get us out of this mess? Why would he want to? His constiuency of lobbyists and rich people are doing just fine–it’s the rest of us who are suffering. Do you really want to return to a time like that of the robberbarons–a time when the middleclass was practically nonexistent, and working people were basically chattel to be abused for their employers’ astronomical profit margins.
The Republicans over and over again use these cultural wedge issues to keep working people from voting in their own economic interest.They are laughing all the way to the bank. The Republicans were in charge of all three branches of government for six years, and they didn’t ban abortion or ban gay marriage or make Christianity our state religion or make English our national language, etc. They wouldn’t have anything to distract the populace with if they actually moved legislatively on these issues. They need poor and middle class people who believe in these cultural issues to continue to support them even though it means that they get poorer and poorer. And don’t think they sincerely believe in these issues as well. Look at the way many, if not most, Republicans live, look at the scandals that Republicans have been associated with–they want the vote of cultural conservatives, but after the lever has been pulled in the ballot box, those voters can be forgotten until the next election when the Republicans will rile them up again, and get folks to cut off their noses to spite their faces.
The Bible talks about straining gnats and swallowing camels. It also says that it is harder for a rich man to enter heaven than for a camel to go through the eye of a needle. The rich Republicans are giving us plenty of gnats to strain in terms of cultural issues that we can’t resolve through legislative means, and meanwhile we just keep swallowing those camels–the economic problems that the Congress and Senate and White House COULD resolve, so that real wealth could be earned by a multitude of American citizens willing to work hard if given real oppotunities. Just think, we could help some of those rich folks get into heaven by reducing their profit margins and taxing the wealthiest among us at a higher, fairer rate. Vote economics first, and work within our churches to address cultural issues. Afterall, our founding fathers in their wisdom decided that in the United States church and government should be separate, and that is as much to protect the churches as it is to protect the freedoms in our constitution.

Posted by: mnm63 | September 12, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am

Oh and Andrea…how about we get some two-sided coverage on the issues…they would love you over at MSNBC wouldn’t they? lets just post an article from the AP who we all know ( or do we) are liberal extremists.
http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MjJhYzdlZmMzMzA1NGViNmE2MmUxYmUxZDg1NmQ1ZTk=

Posted by: E | September 12, 2008, 12:31 am 12:31 am

The McCain strategy was and is the most outrageous insult to voter intelligence. We are voting for a Vice President, second in command of our once-glorious nation, NOT American Idol! Obama wanted to take the high road, but the sleazy ads produced by McCain’s campaign take it to a new low. I am 73, am more frightened by this election than the eight years of disgrace we’ve endured.

Posted by: Noreen | September 12, 2008, 12:32 am 12:32 am

Strongerthanyou, your argument is nothing more than ad hominem. Obama would know what that means. The “cat fight” fantasy doesn’t answer the questions a lot of us have about Governor Palin. Why did she make rape victims pay for their rape kits? Why does she support “abstinence only” sex ed when it didn’t work in her own family? What does she recommend women who are carrying a Downs baby do if they don’t have the money to take care of the child…are the oh so compassionate Republican taxpayers going to lend a hand there? Why does she close her eyes to global climate change when the effects are dramatic already in her own home state? Why does she even talk about war with Russia when they have nukes? Why does she pretend to know about things she has no clue about on national television? Exactly where does she think McCain should cut the federal budget and which people are going to be hurt when he does it? He hasn’t bothered to tell us; does she know? Does she support his plan to tax us on health care benefits we get from our employers? She seems to favor an aggressive foreign policy; how does she plan to pay for future wars? What does she think should be done about unemployment going up? About Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and Bear Stearns needing bailouts with more on the way? Why does she support drilling in Alaska when the oil will take a long time to get online and will not even begin to keep us from slamming hard into the coming energy crisis? Oh but I’m not supposed to ask her any questions; I’m a woman! I should vote for her because she’s a woman! Well, at this point, I’d vote for an alien with green skin if he/she/it would get the mess this country is about to fall into straightened out. Since the alien didn’t show up, I guess I’ll console myself with the Harvard graduate and the Senator with years of experience who doesn’t look like he’s about to kick the bucket and leave a moose catcher in charge of the nation.

Posted by: Beep | September 12, 2008, 12:33 am 12:33 am

wow…i love how everyone says we are fighting for change in this country because we are Americans. I guess all you people who are voting for Obama because you are “Americans” are ready to give up your democratic rights to someone who is planning on starting income redistribution practices…a SOCIALIST practice…..of course why would any of you “Americans” who are in the bottom 40% who don’t pay any income tax at all be opposed to something that gives you income tax rebates in the mail….way to go “Americans”…looks like republicans aren’t the only one’s who consider their pockets when they vote, now do they?

Posted by: E | September 12, 2008, 12:40 am 12:40 am

Posted by: E | Sep 12, 2008 12:31:52 AM
E – You need to use some new material. The whole “liberal media”/”leftist elists” schtick is getting stale. I’m not defending some in the media. Some are biased, but there are other media outlets that favors the other side as well (i.e. Fox News, Rush Limbaugh). I actually do watch Fox News and listen to Rush Limbaugh as well, in order to see the other side of the story. Just because their points of views are different, it doesn’t necessarily mean I will ostracize them for it. It means keeping an open-mind about things, maybe you should try it, instead of automatically dismissing any information that comes from what you call the “liberal media”.

Posted by: Andrea | September 12, 2008, 12:43 am 12:43 am

Dailykos in drag?

Posted by: Mack | September 12, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am

Too bad Ms. Hoppock doesn’t identify the political affiliation of Latimer & Kilston. I’ll bet they’re both Dem’s who disagree with Palin idealogically. So what’s the big deal that they’re getting attention from other Dem’s who also disagree with Palin idealogically? If they were Rep’s this story would be have more meaning.
It’s interesting how NOW supports working mothers with responsibilities in the work force…except conservative women. What a bunch of hypocrites!!!

Posted by: 42n82bfearless | September 12, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am

“The whole “liberal media”/”leftist elists” schtick is getting stale.”
The majority of journalists define themselves as liberal. Look it up.

Posted by: Mack | September 12, 2008, 12:47 am 12:47 am

On Nov. 4th, the message we as voters should send to McCain/Palin – “Thanks, but No Thanks”

Posted by: Linda | September 12, 2008, 12:55 am 12:55 am

Can anyone tell me WHY the press isn’t using this time to ferret out and print all the things about Obama and Michelle’s backgrounds? Obama said on a newscast Sunday “my Muslim faith” and the commentator corrected him to ‘my Christian faith’. Why did he correct him? And why hasn’t more been printed and reported about his family ties? There’s a lot of things that need to be exposed, yet everyone is sticking their heads in the sand and pretending it doesn’t exist for some reason. He’s Muslim, in his 40′s, and fits the terrorists description to a “T”, as well as the anti-Christ mentioned in the Bible.

Posted by: linedancer | September 12, 2008, 12:55 am 12:55 am

Can anyone tell me WHY the press isn’t using this time to ferret out and print all the things about Obama and Michelle’s backgrounds? Obama said on a newscast Sunday “my Muslim faith” and the commentator corrected him to ‘my Christian faith’. Why did he correct him? And why hasn’t more been printed and reported about his family ties? There’s a lot of things that need to be exposed, yet everyone is sticking their heads in the sand and pretending it doesn’t exist for some reason. He’s Muslim, in his 40′s, and fits the terrorists description to a “T”, as well as the anti-Christ mentioned in the Bible.

Posted by: linedancer | September 12, 2008, 12:55 am 12:55 am

Andrea- you posted an article from the AP that said she was a governor when it was a policy…it didn’t even say in the article that she supported it…If you read the article I posted about it…you would see that it is a problem around the whole country and she may have not even known about the policy. Stop pretending you aren’t biased…because you are. You are just helping the media spread more untrue rumors. The democrats are scared because even the republic VP candidate has more experiences than their presidential candidate and they are are trying frantically to dig up anything they can. You want to play that game with Palin? I can play that game with Obama too. Its a disgrace to be a governor of a city who makes rape victims pay for their rape kits but not a disgrace to vote against fund for troops who are fighting for out country (even if they don’t support the war)???

Posted by: E | September 12, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am

Bush didn’t send everyone’s income tax checks back. Guess he is “socialist”, too. McCain has not said how he plans to fund more wars, pay for more bailouts of fragile financial institutions, pay for the coming energy crisis, pay for climate change, without repealing the Bush tax cuts in any way. He’s going to do it all with cuts in programs. Well, which programs? Who is going to be out in the street, and how many? His proposal to tax people on their employer-based health care benefits isn’t a program cut, but since it’s a Republican idea that tax is ok. If the people who have benefited overwhelmingly from the income redistribution brought about by “trickle down” economics aren’t willing to give up the extra home they can’t even remember to count (McCain couldn’t remember how many he owns), I guess it has to come from the poor and the middle class, then? We can step over the poor who die in the streets on our way to our third job to pay the gasoline and grocery bills–oh wait. Unemployment is going UP. How are we going to get our third job? The Republicans don’t care. They care about their rich friends and their rich campaign donors. And run around screaming about “liberals” and “socialism” instead of telling the truth about the economic, foreign policy, energy, and environmental challenges we face. I’m NOT going to vote to keep running up the bill for the generations to follow me. I’m willing to pay what I can afford and I think the super-rich should do the same. It’s not like they are all starting businesses and creating jobs so spare me that argument as well if it’s about to appear on the screen. I want to start a business. Can you find me an affordable health insurance policy? I have a pre-existing condition. We spend more per capita (that’s per person for the educationally challenged) than ANY other nation on health care. Why are so many of our citizens struggling with health care access issues? Why would anyone even THINK of voting for a man whose health care advisor said we all have good insurance because we can go to hospital emergency rooms if we need treatment? And don’t forget his genius economic advisor, who said the economic squeezes a lot of us are feeling are all in our minds. We cannot afford more ignorance, more complete absence of empathy, more neocons. We’ve tried them and they have failed miserably. Why would we try them again? Whatever for?

Posted by: Beep | September 12, 2008, 12:57 am 12:57 am

Obama is not a Muslim. Not that I care. Not all Muslims are terrorists. Not all Christians are nonviolent, either. And he’s not the AntiChrist. Christ told us to give to the poor. McCain wants the rich to keep getting richer. Is he the AntiChrist? I’m *sure* I saw him wearing a beret once…

Posted by: beep | September 12, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am

I am a former Hillary supporter and became an Obama supporter during the primaries. I can’t stand Palin. The mother of 5 as experience is sooo overated. Who cares, so she doesn’t use protection and she is able to raise a daughter that gets knocked up by the age of 17 big deal. Had it been Obama’s daughter pregnant at the age of 17 the conservatives would have had a field day. As an educated women I am finding that Palin supporters are either ignorant on the issues or conveniently putting “party first” they rather have republicans win the white house than actually solve real issues. I swear if the Rove tactics win again I think liberals should form a seperate country where cures through embryonic stem cells can be found, people can have universal healthcare and children can have access to high quality education. What do you think?

Posted by: CG | September 12, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am

Noreen, you have jumped to so many conclusions and apparantly haven’t used your internet to do your research on Palin. Granted, some things may still seem vague. But if you’d been listening to both sides of the news, you would know more about Palin, honestly. You must admit,Palin has been in the spotlight for only a short time, while Obama has blowing smoke out of his butt and saying nothing for years. Take away his mike and you have nothing…he’s lost at one-on-one interviews. Everything has been given to him thus far, including his money from Oprah and the criminals. And why oh why hasn’t the mainstream media probed him more? Don’t you realize Obama is involved with ACORN…one of the most corrupt “community organizing” groups in the nation? He supported ACORN now and then when they were found guilty of registering (trying to) illegals and bussing anyone they could find to the polls in Wisconsin during the last presidential election? That’s only scratching the surface. Obama is the dangerous one. And Noreen, knowledge is only power to an extent…one needs wisdom to know how to use it, or it becomes the arrogance that is so prevalent in the Dems and especially in Obama. You automatically assume that “we is all pig farmers” out here and you’ve got all the answers. Let Palin speak a bit. Be fair, give her some breathing room and she’ll come around. She brings with her a great spirit…and some backbone…something America lacks. Democrats make you think you are less than you really are and that you just can’t make it without them. Aren’t you tired of settling for the crumbs from their table? As “Baby Boomers”, we have created more government and mandates than any other generation I know. There is no freedom in more government control. Self-government is where it’s at. I know, I’m from Alaska, too. “Alaska, the land of the individual and other endangered species.”

Posted by: strongerthanyou | September 12, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am

…but don’t pretend you are advocating for all women because it is now very apparent that you are not.
Posted by: Elyse | Sep 12, 2008 12:23:24 AM
I hope you don’t think you or Palin are advocates of all women.
No feminist would deny your right to have a healthy baby, yet Sarah Palin would take away every woman’s right to choose not to have a baby…even in cases of rape and incest. Not only that, she’d cut funds for poor women who have special needs children…people she ought to be able to relate to since her own baby is a Downs Syndrome child.
The disdain she holds for people who work in community service, which includes volunteering to help developmentally disabled children like her own, is appalling…yet she wants respect? What women is she representing here?
And finally, she has spoken about not ruling out the possibility of a war with Russia, as if our military would be in any shape to deal with something like that. She may not object to sending her boy out to die in a war that never should have begun; but I sure as heck don’t want her to think I feel the same way. She does NOT represent my views.

Posted by: bjanna | September 12, 2008, 1:05 am 1:05 am

My God, you Democrats are so mean spirited it’s ridiculous. Do you ever stop to read your posts before you hit “post”?
If you don’t like Sarah Palin… don’t like her. Who cares what you think anyway? Don’t vote for her. What’s the point of trashing a woman on the internet that you don’t even really know? I can’t believe half the crap I’ve read on here.
Someone actually said they’re not voting for her because they think “she hates Oprah and Ellen”. WHAT?!?!?!?! lol

Posted by: bc | September 12, 2008, 1:06 am 1:06 am

Here’s something to consider: instead of voting for a candidate who gives to the poor, how about voting for a candidate who helps the poor help themselves. Just giving to poor people does not solve their problem. It’s only a temporary solution. Poor people need to be given opportunities to work and support themselves.
“Give a man a fish, he eats for a night. Teach a man to fish, he eats for a lifetime.”
McCain/Palin 08!

Posted by: 42n82bfearless | September 12, 2008, 1:07 am 1:07 am

I love how democrats assume all republicans have multiple house. I am from a 5 person family and both my parents work extremely hard to earn their living and support our family. Our family would most likely not receive any rebate in the mail and we do not own multiple houses nor have an abundance of money to spend how we wish. It is ignorant for democrats to assume every conservative is wealthy.
And for all the democrats who think this trickle down effect will fix the economy….You are very wrong. Obama is planning on raising taxes for small businesses from 36 percent to almost 57%. Know what that means? less jobs. In addition, democrats will increase the deficit because they increase government spending on programs…and if they plan on giving out all the money received from taxes back to the people…..how will they decrease the deficit??
And oooooo please with the environment and global warming…ugh pick up a science book and read about the stretch of the earth’s rotation around the sun…you know..the solar cycle that results in and ice age about every 100,000 years?? And that environmental leader of yours Al Gore ..loooved the movie about global warming..and also looved the part where he showed the ice caps melting…did he mention that that was a scene from the movie the “day after tomorrow”…ya it was Styrofoam.

Posted by: E | September 12, 2008, 1:11 am 1:11 am

I am not afraid of “the government” in a democracy. We ARE the government. Although I’m a little scared of those of you who want the government poking in women’s wombs. And I’m a christian who does not care for abortion. But making abortions illegal makes illegal abortions. Helping women get access to contraception and not letting large numbers fall into poverty is what prevents abortions. That costs money. Those who won’t put their money where their mouths are have some logs to take out of their eyes. We could save a lot of money if we stopped electing neocons, though. Financing their red ink is getting a tad expensive. All that money and NOTHING to show for it. No infrastructure repaired, no alternative energy, no health care mess fixed, no climate change solutions. No helping the poor, as Christ directed. No helping the middle class, as common sense directs. Just a big fat bill accruing interest every day. The “income redistribution” was just fine as long it was going from my little pocketbook to the super-rich. Because they fund campaigns? Well, those of you who vote McCain/Palin can set up a charitable fund and pay off THIS: http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/ . Because I don’t think my 3 year old niece should have to do it.

Posted by: Beep | September 12, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am

I am sick of the hyprocritical liberal attitude. I used to believe that they were tolerant of others beliefs but now I see that they want others to be tolerant of their beliefs only. Pro-choice only if the choice is abortion. Pro-free speech only if they are the ones speaking. Is there room in America for more than one point of view? Not for the liberals. As a college educated woman, my eyes are finally opened. Vote for a woman only if she thinks like me???? Only if she doesn’t mention God??? I support McCain and Palin. The first time ever that I will vote Republican.

Posted by: Recovering Liberal | September 12, 2008, 1:17 am 1:17 am

McCain isn’t helping the poor help themselves, and Bush didn’t either. The New Republicans are helping the super rich at the expense of the rest of us. And they’ve managed to get a lot of you voting against your own self-interest as well as some of your professed Christian beliefs. That’s a big con. They’re good. I see right through them; I used to be one. Now I’m a fiscal conservative for Obama ’08.

Posted by: Beep | September 12, 2008, 1:17 am 1:17 am

Its unfortunate that democrats feel that the country is the way it is because of republicans. Don’t people realize that all politicians are the same??? They blow smoke up people’s butts to get elected and then changed their mind. Is it just me or does Obama’s campaign remind anyone of say…Bill Clinton’s campaign. He chanted “Change Change ! Lower taxes for the middle class” And what did he do?? raised taxes… just because he is a democrat doesn’t mean you can trust him liberals. Maybe you should consider voting for the person who has more experience.

Posted by: E | September 12, 2008, 1:19 am 1:19 am

Um, “liberals” are somehow silencing Sarah Palin? Wasn’t she on national televison tonight? She’s free to say what she wants and believe what she wants. And I am free to disagree with her. Welcome to the First Amendment. I think the neocons haven’t trashed that one completely yet.

Posted by: Beep | September 12, 2008, 1:20 am 1:20 am

There are so many reasons why Sarah Palin is not ready to be vice president. Chiefly, she shows a decided bent toward recrimination and abuse of power against anyone who does not agree with her (ala “Troopergate” and “Librariangate” and “Policechiefgate”). That is a dangerous characteristic that reminds me, simultaneously, of both Bush and Cheney. We need to restore diplomacy in the world, which requires leaders who understand how to listen and negotiate with others. In addition, she has lied, repeatedly, about the earmarks for Alaska–most notably, the money for the “bridge to nowhere”, which she was in favor of before it became a national albatross. Most egregiously, she took the Federal funds that were set aside for the bridge anyway, and built a gravel road to nowhere. In addition, I think she demonstrated an inability to properly manage as a mayor, as witnessed by the fact that this small town was left $20M in debt, even after receiving $27M in earmarks.

Posted by: Carol | September 12, 2008, 1:20 am 1:20 am

“Read my lips — no new taxes”.
Who said that? Hint: it wasn’t Bill Clinton.

Posted by: Beep | September 12, 2008, 1:21 am 1:21 am

Let’s look at the top of the tickets. Everyone knows the Obama story, right? Chicago politics at its best. The Daly machine– been around longer than most of us. Politics worse than usual. No change here. I think the youth who believe that it will be different under Obama, need to wake up. I think we are beginning to see the real candidate as he shows us his true character.

Posted by: Recovering Liberal | September 12, 2008, 1:25 am 1:25 am

Beep– get your facts straight before stating things about Sarah Palin. You just lost my respect for what you say.

Posted by: Recovering Liberal | September 12, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am

“Obama will raise taxes on small businesses” — another McCain lie. It’s not nice to lie, Senator McCain. Some uninformed folks might just believe you. http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/more_tax_deceptions.html

Posted by: Beep | September 12, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am

I’ll do my best to go on living then without your respect, Recovering Liberal. I’m a Recovering Republican, myself.

Posted by: Beep | September 12, 2008, 1:29 am 1:29 am

If Palin was for abortion and had a D next to her name…. need I say more. Wow, these “women” are proving to be pretty irrational in their vitriol against Gov. Palin. When only a week ago they didn’t even know who she was. God help you if you cross the “victim/feminism” paradigm and think for yourself for once. Especially if your a woman with a chance at having real power. The moral bankruptcy of this ideology is here for all to see. Finally… Sad, very tragic indeed.

Posted by: argh! | September 12, 2008, 1:32 am 1:32 am

Beep-
“Read my lips” wasn’t McCain or Palin either, so what’s your point?
Sure, you have a right to your opinion, just as we all do. We can agree to disagree. But Obama will try to redistribute wealth without providing needed jobs for the poor.
Interesting that the approval rating for the Democrat-controlled Congress is lower than the approval rating of an unpopular President. Just imagine how low approval ratings could get if the Democrats control Congress & the Presidency! Bye-bye checks & balances!

Posted by: 42n82bfearless | September 12, 2008, 1:33 am 1:33 am

Oh, we shouldn’t vote for Obama because he comes from Chicago! I was born in Las Vegas. I’d better never run for office. I must support organized crime and blistering sunburns! Sheesh.

Posted by: Beep | September 12, 2008, 1:34 am 1:34 am

Neocons redistributed wealth without providing jobs for the poor, and now you seem to be asking me to vote for more of them. And it was a Republican who promised “no new taxes”; you were saying not to trust Democrats because they might raise taxes. That “Democrat controlled” Congress doesn’t have enough Dems to override the Republican President’s vetos OR stop the Republican filibusters. Yet.

Posted by: Beep | September 12, 2008, 1:39 am 1:39 am

Beep-
I’m not asking you to vote Republican. I just think you’re wrong. I thought we were going to agree to disagree.

Posted by: 42n82bfearless | September 12, 2008, 1:47 am 1:47 am

What kind of Liberal bi–hes would waste their time with this kind of website. This from the “party of tolerance”, right. The Victa-crats are in scared s–tless mode….and it’s showing itself more everyday. Their boy isn’t all that….just ask Hill, Bill and Biden…not ready for primetime. Palin on the other hand has executive experience and not just community organizing (i.e. getting asbestos removed from a building).
GO PALIN, GO! THE REFORMERS ALL THE WAY TO THE WH….where McCain WILL APPOINT DEMS TO HIS CABINET, BECASUE HE IS BIPARTISAN AND NOT EGO DRIVEN LIKE B. HUSSEIN.
These 80,000 women are libs and not party of the Palin pack, who needs them anyway?

Posted by: Debra | September 12, 2008, 1:48 am 1:48 am

I am a woman who is thinking for myself. I have systemic lupus erythematosus. I’m seriously ill a lot of the time, but I would love to give a home business a try. I need an affordable health insurance policy. I’ve used up my allotted time for “work attempts” (why aren’t they unlimited? Because Republicans won’t fix programs; they either throw them out completely or make no changes at all) so I have to get a private policy. If you find me one, please email me at xbeepx@gmail.com. By the way, I’m on experimental chemotherapy, so make sure the policy covers it. I know that all the compassionate Christians out there voting for McCain will want to help me, because Jesus said to help the poor and the sick. I know that all the people who say they believe in hard work will help me, because I know that I will work very hard as long as I don’t drop dead from lack of health care. I have a very expensive education. If I die you lose what was invested in me by taxpayers. When you are done finding me a health care policy, could you please show the Republicans in my state who want to make more cuts in our Medicaid program how to cut from those folks who get to keep a whole $600 a month of their income to qualify to get health care coverage? This is in a state with one of the highest housing costs in the nation; $600 doesn’t even rent you a room. My mom is middle class, but her pension-supported health care premiums keep going up, and she is having a harder and harder time paying them. When John McCain taxes her health care benefits, I suppose she will breathe a lot easier. When Republicans find me my health care policy, figure out how to help my mother, and come out here and live on $600 a month to show those folks how it’s done, I’ll give McCain’s genius health care plan another look. Take the challenge. Show me that neocon compassion, wisdom, and knowledge of economics (I have a degree in it but don’t mind me). I can’t stay up all night on this computer but I eagerly await your solutions! Write me!

Posted by: Beep | September 12, 2008, 1:50 am 1:50 am

This is my first time reading this blog and I must say that I am shocked by the level of hatred so many of the Republican male posters are directing toward women. What the heck is wrong with you boys? Spend some quality time with your blow-up doll and lighten up!
And some of the Republican women are complaining about Democrats being “hateful.” Clearly, they have a total blind spot when it comes to the behavior of their own party for, say, at least the last 16 years.
I’M A HOCKEY MOM, feminist, wife, mother of three, who loves to fish and be outdoors as often as possible. Yet, I think the choice of Sarah Palin is cynical, it was pandering, it’s insulting and appalling. She makes George W. Bush look well-informed and intelligent. Sarah Palin is self-righteous and egotistical and it’s easy to imagine her being a disaster at anything involving diplomacy.
Worst of all, she will be one temper-tantrum induced stroke away from the Presidency. Anyone who argues that she is qualified for that is flat-out lying.

Posted by: Sara in MN | September 12, 2008, 1:53 am 1:53 am

Sara-
You sound like the kettle calling the coffee black…not exactly a pleasant greeting to those you disagree with. Sounds like someone lit your volcano ’cause you’re just spewing a lot of nonsense!
It’s honestly laughable to suggest that Palin is self-righteous & egotistical, but Obama “the Messiah” is not. Whether you want to believe it or not, she is more qualified for the Presidency than Obama…and that’s not lying. It’s pretty easy to imagine Obama trying diplomacy while being bullied by Putin or Achmadinajad…”Hey, uh let’s talk this out….” as he’s letting us get attacked. Sorry, Obama just doesn’t inspire confidence.

Posted by: 42n82bfearless | September 12, 2008, 2:13 am 2:13 am

I think it’s very simple. Forget about the four of them. It’s about going left or staying a capitalist country.
Women are as good as, and very often better than, men! Sarah Palin has more executive experience than the three men combined.

Posted by: Freya | September 12, 2008, 2:29 am 2:29 am

I’m sorry Sarah but how do you know already that Palin is egotistical and self-righteous? Do you have supernatural powers that enable you to know everything about the woman to make that judgment? Because last time i checked she has been in the national spotlight for i dunno a week or 2? Now I on the other hand would call Obama egotistical and self-righteous …but at least I’ve had the last 19 months to make that judgment.

Posted by: E | September 12, 2008, 2:34 am 2:34 am

No, 42n82bfearless, she is not more qualified than Obama. When she was mayor of Wasilla, it was necessary to hire a city administration (for the first time in the town’s history) because she couldn’t run things. She was governor for 20 months. There is a great deal of lying and exaggeration on the part of Repubs trying to claim she is “more experienced.” It’s just silly.
She certainly doesn’t have the knowledge that would make her a safe choice to lead the Free World.
As far as the tone of my post, I would suggest that you read the entire thread, particularly the comments from “Joey” and others. But, it’s typical for Repubs to whine when criticized. They can dish it out, but can’t take it.

Posted by: Sara in MN | September 12, 2008, 2:38 am 2:38 am

To E: Listen to her talk. She doesn’t listen, she is clueless about what she doesn’t know.
She is George W. Bush in a skirt.

Posted by: Sara in MN | September 12, 2008, 2:40 am 2:40 am

The overwhelming majority of women support Palin. It is about time that this country had a woman VP and Sarah Palin is the best person for the job.

Posted by: janephilip | September 12, 2008, 2:47 am 2:47 am

Honestly Sara it is possible that Obama has more experience to be president than Palin…granted it is very close no matter what you think…But guess what? Palin isn’t running for president and its pretty sad that the democratic candidate barely beats her…if he even does….when it comes to experience. If you are going to play the experience card against Palin then fine..but I don’t think you’ll have much to argue when it comes to comparing the experience of the 2 presidential candidates.
O and your comment about Sara Palin..obviously shows how uneducated and ignorant you are to this election. The least you can do is educate yourself on both sides of the matter and make and informed decision….what a responsible voter should do…it sounds like you are the type of person who’s research is based on US Weekly

Posted by: E | September 12, 2008, 2:48 am 2:48 am

When I learned that Palin was McCain’s running mate, I fell over. My first reaction was “Who the hell is she?” I think that McCain could have done a lot better job.
This woman failed when being asked what the Bush Doctrine was – since she is aligned with the Republican party… don’t you think in the least, she’d know what the hell it was?

Posted by: Kristine | September 12, 2008, 3:11 am 3:11 am

You are so correct,, Who Is She, after 19 months of torture they had every story to tell on Obama,, now this skirt comes in and gives McCain an Rise and Rightwings are going crazy, And she doesn’t have a clue!! Seriously they think it’s ok for her to only say a few sentences and hold her hands through the 1st interview,, PLZ one heart beat away!! C’mon this guy is 72 yrs old, Time to enjoy the 7-8 houses that you have!!!Alaska is more her speed!!
Go Obiden!!!

Posted by: NitaBarack | September 12, 2008, 4:48 am 4:48 am

Palin’s grammar is embarrassing as a governor much less as a possible VP. I am a high school English teacher and I put her English usage at about the 6th grade. How pompous and stupid to say she is ready to be our President. Ridilicious. She was nothing but a blizzard of words last night on the interview and she did not even speak in complete sentences most of the time. A real HICK who clearly is “a wanna be someone important”. How sad our nation has come to having someone like her run for national office. Says a great deal about how far we have sunk under Bush. She has done an inadequate job with her own kids. God help us!I do not vote for someone just because they have the same wiring I do. Only stupid people consider that as the sole criteria. We are a pathetic nation at this point.

Posted by: barbarababby | September 12, 2008, 5:10 am 5:10 am

IF Palin couldn’t get ready for her 1st interview,, She certainly can’t be a heart beat away from her 72 yr old running mate with health problems, MCCAIN WAS NOT THINKING FROM HIS BRAIN WHEN HE PICKED HER, IT WAS SOMETHING ELSE!! CINDY HAS DONE ALL SHE CAN DO!! PERSONAL AND POLITICAL STUNT,,,PEOPLE BE REALISTIC!!!
GO OBIDEN!!!!!

Posted by: NitaBarack | September 12, 2008, 5:14 am 5:14 am

Sarah Palin has proven repeatedly that she has a tendency to turn on those who disagree with her. As a leader of our country, that would be extremely dangerous. If you are interested in seeing this country turn into a dictatorship, by all means support Palin.

Posted by: Lynn | September 12, 2008, 5:18 am 5:18 am

First of all, I would like to say that Biden’s comments about Hillary POSSBILY making a better VP or would definatly make a great Pres was said out of total respect. And the media blew it out of proportion, as usual. Yes she would have made a great VP – but Obamam made the right choice – she wouldn’t have been happy as VP (basically, she’s already done that and has a T-shirt, and deserves nothing less than the PRES role – 2012.
RE: Sara: As well as not having a clue on global focus, foreign policies or diplomacy, the world that Sara Palin doesn’t understand — I have several acquaintances who are single mothers and licensed dancers/strippers (yes I have a wide range of friends). With very little support or enforcement of dead beat dads, it’s the one feasible means where they can have flexibility in hours, feed their children, pay rent, and make a high enough wage to pay to pay daycare. And there are thousands, thousands more like them in the U.S. Many of them are good, honest women and great mothers, just trying to get by. Many of these women, strippers or not, turn to drugs and alchohol due to depression and end up abusing, abondoning or neglecting their children, who end up as childhood death statistics. One of these women I know, is a real pro dancer — great bod and legs from years of dancing, and great mother. She was recently followed from her house by local police and served a subpoena outside of her son’s daycare to testify before the grand jury in the local XXXXXX dance club owner’s trial — alleged tax evasion and promoting prostitution in order for women to pay house fees (the city didn’t believe they were receiving their cut of taxes nor receiving their payoffs to council members). At any rate, she had to hire an attorney to the tune of $2,400 to represent her, and basically defended the owners and dancers and dismissed, deemed a non-credible witness, even though the police had video footage of her entering an upstairs apartment with former governor XXXXXX (who wasn’t called to testify – too high profile) — and she said, “is that illegal -entering an apartment?) She also said, its a legal, licensed establishment that the owner’s offered for many women struggling with the current economy to make a decent living – if anything happened outside of that, no one one was forced, nor did they (the owners) receive a cut. And, if you think your kind, doesn’t mix with my kind, think again!” I applaud her for speaking her mind and the stating the truth. These women think of the dance clubs as their savior and only means of support – it’s our society that brings on the real damage. I was in residential real estate. I had to pay broker’s fees (pimp fees as I call em) desk fees, advertising fees. . .that year I had a $8K loss on my taxes. So. . .say I had decided to turn a trick to pay my brokers fees, is it fair to say that my broker forced me into prostitution?
That’s what they are trying to say at XXXXX. They have been after these guys for years. It’s a profit business, just like any other. . .some women are good at it, some or not. Many make a great living, and some turn to brining in money on the side by their own free will.
Anyway, if Sara were to run this country and had her personal beliefs, morals/values. . .supporter of the NRA, against birth control/abortion & no sex education forced upon others, there would be many more women struggling to support their children, many ending up in the stripping industry — and there is a risk if they push the limits as in any other industry and will end up dead or near death found in a ditch or roadside. . .as another stripper I know who was rapped at gunpoint by 4 men and left for dead in SFO, found by a passerby with lacerations on her neck, head crushed by a rock, but survived and continues to dance – the only means she has to adequately support her child. cut from an email I received tonight from Vicki. . seamed fitting —
————-In September 1960, I woke up one morning with six hungry babies and just 75 cents in my pocket.Their father was gone. The boys ranged from three months to seven years; their sister was two. Their Dad had never been much more than a presence they feared. Whenever they heard his tires crunch on the gravel driveway they would scramble to hide under their beds. He did manage to leave $15 a week to buy groceries. Now that he had decided to leave, there would be no more beatings, but no food either. If there was a welfare system in effect in southern Indiana at that time, I certainly knew nothing about it. I scrubbed the kids until they looked brand new and then put on my best homemade dress, loadedThem into the rusty old 51 Chevy and drove off to find a job. The seven of us went to every factory, store and restaurant in our small town. No luck. The kids stayed crammed into the car and tried to be quiet while I tried to convince who ever would listen that I was willing to learnOr do anything. I had to have a job. Stillno luck. The last place we went to, just a few miles out of town, wasan old Root Beer Barrel drive-in t hat had been converted to a truckstop. It was called the Big Wheel. An old lady named Granny owned the place and she peeked out of the window from time to time at all those kids. She needed someone on the graveyard shift, 11 at night until seven in the morning. She paid 65 cents an hour, and I could start that night. I raced home and called the teenager down the street that baby-sat for people. I bargained with her to come and sleep on my sofa for a dollar a night. She could arrive with her pajamas on and the kids would already beAsleep This seemed like a good arrangement to her, so we made a deal. That night when the little ones and I knelt to say our prayers, we all thanked God for finding Mommy a job. And so I started at the Big Wheel. When I got home in the mornings I woke the baby-sitter up and sent her home with one dollar of my tip money– fully half of what IAveraged every night. As the weeks went by, heating bills added a strain to my meager wage. Thetires on the old Chevy had the consistency of penny balloons and beganto leak. I had to fill them with air on the way to work and again everymorning before I could go home………

Posted by: Ms. Charise | September 12, 2008, 5:22 am 5:22 am

NitaBarack,
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe Palin was NOT McCain’s top VP choice. Lieberman was definitely on his list, as was another whose name is failing me (not Pawlenty). From what I read, it was his campaign manager who steered him to Palin in order to draw in NRA and evangelical voters.

Posted by: Karen | September 12, 2008, 5:27 am 5:27 am

MCCAIN HAD THE LAST SAY SO IN THE MATTER,, HE GOT A RISE FROM HER,, AND THAT WAS IT!! THIS CHOICE RESORTED BACK TO THE MAVERICK IN HIM,, I GUESS AT 72 IT STILL EXISTS…LIEBERMAN, THAT TRAITOR WILL BE JOB HUNTING WHEN THE DEMOCRATS TAKE OVER IN JAN 09,,

Posted by: NitaBarack | September 12, 2008, 5:34 am 5:34 am

I agree with you there.

Posted by: Karen | September 12, 2008, 5:41 am 5:41 am

It just goes to show that McCain can’t make decisions, at least not for the right reasons.

Posted by: Karen | September 12, 2008, 5:42 am 5:42 am

Palin might just make it to the Oval Office. It’s a frightening thought that it has come to this. I feel like this is a bad dream. McCain…”country first” my foot!

Posted by: grace | September 12, 2008, 5:48 am 5:48 am

Jack Burton posted this link last night:
http://www.bookpatrol.net/2008/09/sara-palins-library-issue-is-now.html
This article, an attempt to prove that Palin’s book banning conversation with the librarian was strictly “rhetorical”, states:
“Upon taking office, Mayor Palin did ask for several department heads to resign — including the librarian. The resignations requests were nothing more than Mayor Palin taking over as the city’s chief executive and seeking to have department heads in place who supported her agenda in Wasilla.”
“The new mayor’s startling demand for resignations tested the department heads’ willingness to transfer their loyalties to the new administration.”
I’m sorry, but a mayor trying to fire a librarian because she does not support “her agenda” is scary, no matter how you look at it. What type of loyalty does she expect? Imagine what she would try at the federal level…

Posted by: Lynn | September 12, 2008, 6:08 am 6:08 am

The other day my boyfreind’s17 yr old daughter told him that she was not planning on having children because “she did not want them to suffer” in a world racked by global warming – i thought that this child understood the threat of global warming better than every republican and how tragic the current state of the world is.
Sara Palin’s extremist views belong in the deep freeze – not on the red button in the white house!
Debra Solomon
NY NY 10001

Posted by: debra solomon | September 12, 2008, 6:10 am 6:10 am

Why not change the right-wing war cry to Red-Neck Women for Palin? Red-Neck Media for Palin. Red-Neck Polls see Palin as appealing to women.
Red-Necks I applaud your power in this country. Even though you do NOT represent a majority of the people. You now have your chapter in history that includes the idiocy of the Bush Administration and if Palin/McCain is elected, will continue on to perhaps atrocities that we hope get written about if there is still a world left.
Let me tell you something though. That upper 1% of the country doesn’t really care about the poor under educated extreme Christo-Fascist Red-Neck. They are using you.. yes, like the whore you are. But you are being ridden hard and it will be your kind that disappears first when the United States economy collapses or you can no longer get health care for all of your unwanted pregnancies. And it will be your sons and daughters who are sacrificed in the needless wars. Ye Haw to you under educated, Fox brainwashed Red-Necks. Ride that bomb to oblivion!

Posted by: Cindy | September 12, 2008, 6:47 am 6:47 am

;-0 ;-O Cindy,, now you going to have to sit in the corner for that kind of outburst..shame shame Alaskan’s know only Red Salmon,, not Red-Necks,,
Go OBIDEN!!!

Posted by: NitaBarack | September 12, 2008, 6:57 am 6:57 am

If Sarah Palin had thrown her hat into the ring to run for President last year before the primaries started up in January, she’d have suffered the same fate as Messrs. Brownback, Hunter, Tancredo and Thompson. She would’ve been seen as the incurious, ill-educated, right-wing extremist she is. Remember that, those of you who love her now. Would you have loved her as much during primary season earlier this year? I think not. Yet you want her as President-in-waiting now – it boggles the mind.

Posted by: Lola Getz | September 12, 2008, 8:10 am 8:10 am

“I am a mother and I am a republican. I would like to know how is that a woman knew she was carrying an unborn child diagnosed with Down syndrome ,travels 12 hours in labor (after her water break) to Alaska from Texas by plane. Did her trie to kill her unborn baby? my doctor tell me that I can kill my baby or she will be brain dead.”
1) Her water didn’t “break.” Don’t believe everything you read.
2) She wasn’t in “labor.” Don’t believe everything you read.
3) She spoke with her doctor and had his concurance on traveling. Who are YOU to come between a woman and her doctor?

Posted by: jack burton | September 12, 2008, 8:41 am 8:41 am

“It sounds like your only qualifications for someone to become a leader of this country, is for that person be able to shoot moose, fish and live in a small town. I think it’s great that she can do all those things, be a mother, play basketball, etc., etc., but that doesn’t automatically mean she is what’s best for our nation. We are upset, because we care about this country! We care about the direction our country is headed! We keep ourselves informed, because we care! ”
If you are so “informed” then why don’t you know that Gov. Palin is a sitting govenor of a state? You seemed to have left ~that~ off your “list.”

Posted by: jack burton | September 12, 2008, 8:45 am 8:45 am

I am so glad this blog has come into existence. I, too, have not been able to sleep since Sarah Palin was announced as V.P. candidate by McCain. My reaction to McCain’s decision was”this is a joke”. Now I am frightened at the possibility that she could possibly lead our country. I watched her acceptance speech and saw a woman who is nasty and demeaning and polarizing. I can’t imagine her negotiating with Foreign heads of State.
Her views on abortion, the environment, the economy, gay rights, the separation of church and State, education, women’s rights,stem-cell research and freedom of speech are against everything that I believe in. She would set this country back at a time when other countries are moving forward.

Posted by: Marsha M | September 12, 2008, 8:48 am 8:48 am

“Obama was president of Harvard Law Review, McCain was a legacy (and adulterer) and Palin barely finished college.”
1) It’s not how much education you have but what you’ve learned.
2) Let’s see ~you~ get thru the Naval Academy.
3) You have a special insight to Gov. Palin’ college transcripts? Please share them with all of us.

Posted by: jack burton | September 12, 2008, 8:48 am 8:48 am

“Obama was president of Harvard Law Review, McCain was a legacy (and adulterer) and Palin barely finished college.”
1) It’s not how much education you have but what you’ve learned.
2) Let’s see ~you~ get thru the Naval Academy.
3) You have a special insight to Gov. Palin’ college transcripts? Please share them with all of us.

Posted by: jack burton | September 12, 2008, 8:48 am 8:48 am

“Obama wanted to take the high road”
Yeppers, that’s why every three or four days he’d be accusing McCain of being a racist.

Posted by: jack burton | September 12, 2008, 8:51 am 8:51 am

“Why does she close her eyes to global climate change when the effects are dramatic already in her own home state?”
Let me pick just one illustration here to show how vacant the arguments are that the libs are putting forth.
while I do believe that she has expressed some skepticism that warming is wholly human-caused, the existence of the Alaska Climate Change Sub-Cabinet and the Alaska Climate Change Strategy work demonstrate that she’s considering the problem and has brought together people more expert than she to advise her.
This and many more answers to the continued lies the womyn here are telling can be found at
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/separating-palin-fact-from-palin-fiction/2/

Posted by: jack burton | September 12, 2008, 8:57 am 8:57 am

So NitaBarack, ill educated? On what basis do you assign that insult? She does have a degree and life experiences are far more educating than the liberal diatribe that spews from most of the professors that occupy the campuses of our universities. Particularly the so called elite campuses. Two years as a governor!
PLENTY of opportunity to fail and lose her constituents confidence! LOOK at her approval rating! >80%. Look at her record!

Posted by: USMCInfidel | September 12, 2008, 8:59 am 8:59 am

“Christ told us to give to the poor. ”
Really? Perhaps you can quote a Bible verse where Christ told the government that it was their job to take money from people and give it to the poor.

Posted by: jack burton | September 12, 2008, 9:01 am 9:01 am

“I swear if the Rove tactics win again I think liberals should form a seperate country ”
You already have one. It’s called Canada. They would be happy to take you in. Of course, if you get sick you’ll wait three months to see a doctor, but I am sure you can put up with that.

Posted by: jack burton | September 12, 2008, 9:03 am 9:03 am

Enough already! This country is in a huge economic mess! I am voting based on issues alone. Not on gender ,race , religion.
Oh by the way Palin ,Wolves have families too!!! Could not resist.
No Planet, No People, No Problems!

Posted by: Terri | September 12, 2008, 9:09 am 9:09 am

No feminist would deny your right to have a healthy baby, yet Sarah Palin would take away every woman’s right to choose not to have a baby…even in cases of rape and incest.
[yeah, protecting the innocent victim of circumstances is a bad thing to do. Bad Sarah.]
Not only that, she’d cut funds for poor women who have special needs children…people she ought to be able to relate to since her own baby is a Downs Syndrome child.
[Sigh… another lie. Like cockroaches. She increased the funding. Period. She may not have increased it as much as YOU would want… but an “increase” is not a “cut” in any logical system except liberal-speak]
The disdain she holds for people who work in community service, which includes volunteering to help developmentally disabled children like her own, is appalling…yet she wants respect?
[What disdain? She was tweaking Barry and you know that was it.]
What women is she representing here?
[Have you ever felt the need to ask a male candidate what “man” he is representing?]
And finally, she has spoken about not ruling out the possibility of a war with Russia, as if our military would be in any shape to deal with something like that.
[She answered a question with the truth that we have certain treaty obligations that we MAY have to fulfill. You don’t like the answer? Then agitate to get us out of NATO. Otherwise, why do you expect ~any~ VP/president to just set aside treaties that they don’t like?]
She may not object to sending her boy out to die in a war that never should have begun; but I sure as heck don’t want her to think I feel the same way. She does NOT represent my views.
[I am sure she understands that not all liberals agree with her. Why do you expect her not to understand that?]

Posted by: jack burton | September 12, 2008, 9:11 am 9:11 am

There are so many reasons why Sarah Palin is not ready to be vice president. Chiefly, she shows a decided bent toward recrimination and abuse of power against anyone who does not agree with her (ala “Troopergate” and “Librariangate” and “Policechiefgate”).
[I guess that tasering a child and stating that he is going to kill the family ~could~ be characterized as a “disagreement” but perhaps that is just me. And I do recall that Mr. Clinton FIRED ALL 70 federal prosecutors when he came into office – an act that no previous president had done.]
We need to restore diplomacy in the world, which requires leaders who understand how to listen and negotiate with others.
[Please explain to all of us how a governor that got an agreement for a much needed pipeline that cost 800 billion dollars to be built that all of her (male) predecessors couldn’t do has a problem with “listening and negotiating.”]
In addition, she has lied, repeatedly, about the earmarks for Alaska–most notably, the money for the “bridge to nowhere”, which she was in favor of before it became a national albatross. Most egregiously, she took the Federal funds that were set aside for the bridge anyway, and built a gravel road to nowhere.
[Where is that “bridge”? Has anybody walked across it lately? Drove? Oh.. . of course not. Gov. Palin killed it, didn’t she. And you would criticize someone for eventually coming to the right decision? And which funds were “set aside”?]
In addition, I think she demonstrated an inability to properly manage as a mayor, as witnessed by the fact that this small town was left $20M in debt, even after receiving $27M in earmarks.
[So if the TOWN citizens voted themselves a bond issue for something they think they needed… this is Palin’s fault?]

Posted by: jack burton | September 12, 2008, 9:21 am 9:21 am

This is my first time reading this blog and I must say that I am shocked by the level of hatred so many of the Republican male posters are directing toward women.
[TRANSLATION: How DARE you disagree with us!!!!]
What the heck is wrong with you boys? Spend some quality time with your blow-up doll and lighten up!
[It seems as if that concern for “level of hatred” only goes one way, eh. :-) ]
I’M A HOCKEY MOM, feminist, wife, mother of three, who loves to fish and be outdoors as often as possible. Yet, I think the choice of Sarah Palin is cynical, it was pandering, it’s insulting and appalling.
[Are you also the sitting governor of your state, and one of the most popular politicians in the country?]
She makes George W. Bush look well-informed and intelligent. Sarah Palin is self-righteous and egotistical and it’s easy to imagine her being a disaster at anything involving diplomacy.
[Which is why she has been so successful in her own state, eh.]
Worst of all, she will be one temper-tantrum induced stroke away from the Presidency. Anyone who argues that she is qualified for that is flat-out lying.
[Worst of all, Barry will BE the Presidency. Anyone who argues that he is qualified for that is flat-out lying.]

Posted by: jack burton | September 12, 2008, 9:27 am 9:27 am

When I learned that Palin was McCain’s running mate, I fell over. My first reaction was “Who the hell is she?”
[You get a certain amount of credit for admitting your ignorance to the world…but many of us have been following her career for quite a number of months now.]
I think that McCain could have done a lot better job.
[TRANSLATION: I think he should have appointed a liberal]
This woman failed when being asked what the Bush Doctrine was – since she is aligned with the Republican party… don’t you think in the least, she’d know what the hell it was?
[Please explain just how asking for a clarification of a very open question is “failing” it. The Doctrine has evolved over the years and has a number of component parts. Just what section and what part was the interviewer asking about? YOU certainly don’t know, do you.]

Posted by: jack burton | September 12, 2008, 9:33 am 9:33 am

“now this skirt comes in and gives McCain an Rise and Rightwings are going crazy, ”
And ~this~ is the very best the libs can do, eh.
:-)

Posted by: jack burton | September 12, 2008, 9:35 am 9:35 am

“Palin’s grammar is embarrassing as a governor much less as a possible VP. I am a high school English teacher and I put her English usage at about the 6th grade. How pompous and stupid to say she is ready to be our President. Ridilicious.”
This is too precious for words. Ridilicious indeed.
:-)

Posted by: jack burton | September 12, 2008, 9:37 am 9:37 am

“Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe Palin was NOT McCain’s top VP choice. ”
Okay… consider yourself corrected.
McCain had a number of people he was considering. Only McCain knows who was on “top” of that list.
But Gov. Palin was strongly considered from the very beginning of the search.
http://patterico.com/2008/09/03/why-the-press-claims-falsely-that-sarah-palin-wasnt-vetted-because-unlike-you-they-dont-read-beldar-so-they-got-surprised-by-the-pick-and-they-dont-like-being-surprised/

Posted by: jack burton | September 12, 2008, 9:42 am 9:42 am

“I’m sorry, but a mayor trying to fire a librarian because she does not support “her agenda” is scary, no matter how you look at it. What type of loyalty does she expect? Imagine what she would try at the federal level…”
1) I wasn’t aware that “librarians” had such a sacrosanct position in society. Is that a job akin to a priest or something?
2) “Agenda” means a lot of things. Perhaps Mayor Palin wanted to modernize the computer system and the librarian liked the old fashioned paper system better. “Let the kids use computers at home!!!” Maybe the librarian thought the town needed to put a ten cent sales tax increase on all purchases to give her a larger salary. The fact is… YOU don’t know, do you?
3) What would you think of VP Palin coming in and on the first day FIRING all federal prosecutor attorneys? Just like Clinton did, which was unprecedented.

Posted by: jack burton | September 12, 2008, 9:48 am 9:48 am

I love these women who tout themselves as being “highly educated” while criticizing Palin, and in the same paragraph misspell “separate” as “seperate”,CG—-a mistake that an educated 3rd grader wouldn’t make!
And barabarababby called herself an English teacher and criticized Palin’s grammar! She then proceeded to misspell “ridiculous” and then used a sentence fragment. No wonder our education system is declining when THAT is who is teaching 6th graders! ARRGH!!!!

Posted by: Nancy Y. Jordan | September 12, 2008, 9:49 am 9:49 am

“The other day my boyfreind’s17 yr old daughter told him that she was not planning on having children because “she did not want them to suffer” in a world racked by global warming – i thought that this child understood the threat of global warming better than every republican and how tragic the current state of the world is.”
Great news. Less liberals raising kids…more conservatives raising kids. Win Win for all.
:-)

Posted by: jack burton | September 12, 2008, 9:50 am 9:50 am

Debra Solomon, please, find your Seroquel XR bottle before you do something rash! It’s obvious you haven’t been taking your medicine. My what a wonderful sharing pleasing personality you have. Just slightly on the hysterical side!

Posted by: USMCInfidel | September 12, 2008, 9:52 am 9:52 am

“I am so glad this blog has come into existence. I, too, have not been able to sleep since Sarah Palin was announced as V.P. candidate by McCain.”
Two weeks without sleep? Wow. Must be closing in on a new record.
What is going to happen to you when McCain/Palin wins?

Posted by: jack burton | September 12, 2008, 9:53 am 9:53 am

Give ‘em HELL Jack! I love it1

Posted by: USMCInfidel | September 12, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am

Palin proves she’s the Trojan Horse for McCain’s campaign. After the first ABC interview, its clear Palin has confused hubris with courage and strength with arrogance. Her cockiness will undo her in the end.

Posted by: annie | September 12, 2008, 10:09 am 10:09 am

it is a joke and a sorry state in our nation that ANYONE, let alone women, are even considering her as a qualified candidate. Count me as another woman against Palin–she’s nothing but an extreme right-wing, corrupt neo-con hypocrite with a pretty face.
Not anyone I want near the White House, regardless of gender.

Posted by: cally | September 12, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am

“Give ‘em HELL Jack! I love it1″
Always glad to hear from one of the Navy’s younger cousins.
:-)
Thanks for your service.

Posted by: jack burton | September 12, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am

“she’s nothing but an extreme right-wing, corrupt neo-con hypocrite with a pretty face.”
Beats having an extreme left-wing, corrupt socialist hypocrite with an ugly face.

Posted by: jack burton | September 12, 2008, 10:16 am 10:16 am

I do not follow party lines but we should all consider what my 11 year old son said. Either way you look at it we are voting now for a VP. The president elect will die in office (either health issue or criminal act) and we have to make the choice as to who can step in running. Palin does not have the experience now, to hit the ground running. She can be ‘taught’ but we need someone who doesn’t need a learning curve. She has no foreign policy understanding (hence her interview)at this point. Putting a gun in someone hands does not qualify them to lead a country or decide foreign policy. I think if the country were ready for a female president McCain would have been running against Hillary. McCain is not qualified just because he served our country and she is not qualified. Sometime down the road maybe but not at this point. McCain has turned this into a sexist election and Palin is just his pawn.

Posted by: Shari | September 12, 2008, 10:28 am 10:28 am

hey, Mary May, hey stupid. Get your facts straight about pregnancy from rape and incest. Your making a mountain out of a mole hill lady. I know that it is a drastic time for a women who gets raped and becomes pregnant. But most women who get raped, one in about 20 who do get pregnant.. if is reported to police can have what is known as a DNC afterwards or take morning after pill. The chances of getting pregnant from a rape are very low. Incest risks is low too. they happen maybe 1 in 5000. I was around when Roe Vs Wade was voted on, and back then in the late 60′s and 70 the so called “Planned Parenthood” taught that abortion would make you sterile. then came along the woman libers. And a bunch of other creeps, then the idea that abortion was invented to stop the black population because they assumed that it would be the african american that would get abortions. So the so called “planned parenthood” changed their writings and it is in print today “abortion was safe”. You can find the older documents of the “‘Planned parenthood” that says it was not safe and it is in writing. you can find an old copy explaining who they are. Women of this country, lower themselves when they get abortions, because it says that they have no control over their bodies, and that they are victims of men. we have the right to birth control. We are not animals, we can reason. that is what separates us from animals. the ability to reason and use birth control. I feel sorry for women who have had abortions, young girls, etc. There are many of us who can not have children. I would love to have a baby that is not wanted and was not rinsed down the drain. Heartbeat starts at 35 days for the fetus. its a baby then. If its not alive then why does it have to be killed. hmmm?. Roe vs Wade only perpetuates abortions, and causes some women who are sloppy and careless with their boundaries to become more so cause they have a way out. So the baby must die so that women can do what she wants. But we must go on. the law is in place and will probably never change. It might be controled somewhat, but even if mccain and palin are in office, Roe vs Wade will never go away. Abortion is her to stay. We are a society of convenience, and we dont like thinkgs to stop us in our tracks, we want this and that now.
I am against abortion, but I don’t see the McCain or Palin being able to take that law off the books. Now partial birth abortion, not good.

Posted by: smitty | September 12, 2008, 10:30 am 10:30 am

“Palin does not have the experience now, to hit the ground running.”
And Barry does?

Posted by: jack burton | September 12, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am

I think we have see the male version of Sarah Palin for 8 long years, now u want the female version? Please it is not about whether she is woman or man it is about the same ole same ole..war, no vision of the future and oil,oil,oil and more oil

Posted by: khd | September 12, 2008, 10:34 am 10:34 am

You notice it’s the men that are so stridently FOR Sarahh Palin and her stances on issues. Men are afraid of strong, independent, critically thinking women, so they turn nasty and insulting becoming no more that silly trolls on web sites. Sarah Palin is controlled by her pastor and her husband, who she emailed on every issue facing her as mayor and governor. She has no original ideas…..she is a Manchurian Candidate.

Posted by: lavndrblue | September 12, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am

I am for McCain and Palin, I want them to win. I don’t remember seeing this kind of hate for Hilary when she was running, but Biden will probably step down and they will have Hilary as VP. I bet 10 bucks within the next 48 hours, It will happen. The Dems want to be the first in all things. McCain did a great job in picking her. You dog her because all you have seen in the public eye is these so called women libers that burn their bras, hate men, hate their bodies and hate being women.
go McCain Palin.

Posted by: smitty | September 12, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am

These woman group are not for real woman issues. Just like the Jessie Jackson in the world who don’t stand for ALL black people advancement These are more about their own agendas and some case self advancement they are for woman rights There biggest belief is abortion rights All the other issues are just smoke screens to make you think it woman rights Just like the Jessie Jackson attacking Bill Cosby and even Obama when they spoke out on real problem that are in our black community they got chastised by Mr Jackson The same is true when these woman attack VP Palin They’re really attacking her on her abortion position and the fact that is she has conventional values They know that if a woman like Sarah gets to on a national platform they’ll have a real problem It could effect their group, which in turn effects their pocket book and some case they would be out of work as organizers Most woman in the US don’t have the same views that the far left woman have These ideals are more like the woman in EU than are in the US
It is ok not to agree with her on the issues but to denounces her success and say that she unqualified is going pretty far Again the media and the far left don’t want her to have a plat from not because she not qualify but because of her stance on abortion If she came out tomorrow morning said that she was for abortion they would flock to her like baby chickens The tone that far left woman have toward anyone that has a different speaks for itself In this country we should be able to debate the issues and agree to disagree and if the majority don’t agree with you don’t belittle them
If you plan to vote in this election take some time go back and look at the past ten years Look at the all the street protest this country has had and tell me which groups act uncivilized. I think they are Abortion right activist. Gay rights and anti war group Its is not the conservatives who are out raged I ask all voters look deep into your mind and heart to search for what import to you Which values do want imposed on your children

Posted by: Pam | September 12, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am

She is a pretty pitbull. Doesn’t blink .. doesn’t THINK, but her mouth is open and she recites sound bites. She is a scary pitbull, her church “speaks in tongues.” Go see the pictures of her underage daughter holding 1/2 gallons of booze at parties. Why isn’t Trak off to college instead of Iraq? Wasilla City Hall is about the size of Taco Bell in San Diego. She sure couldn’t schmooze with heads of state as she is a menopausal pitbull and she will set women’s rights back 100 yrs. Go Obama. He graduated top of his law class at Harvard. McCain graduated 5th from BOTTOM of his class at Annapolis. You can google any of these facts and see the pics of her dau drinking, Wasilla City Hall,etc I did.

Posted by: sally | September 12, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am

Joe Biden was CORRECT! She is a giant step back. She is no Hillary – definately no Hillary. Shouldn’t be compared in the same sentence.

Posted by: brandi | September 12, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am

Sarah Palin is….trooper gate, token candidate, self-righteous zealot, gun totting, moose killing, anti-women rights, uninformed, void of Foreign Affair policies and Wrong for America.
John McSame and Sarah Trooper Gate, Scary!
Barack Obama for President!
Change we Need…Change we can Believe in!
Obama/Biden 08

Posted by: michelle | September 12, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am

You notice it’s the men that are so stridently FOR Sarahh Palin and her stances on issues.
[Really? I certainly noticed a lot of women’s names here defending the Governor. Perhaps you overlooked them in your haste to post bogus info.]
[Men are afraid of strong, independent, critically thinking women, so they turn nasty and insulting becoming no more that silly trolls on web sites. ]
Many liberals will completely contradict themselves if you give them enough posts, but it takes a very special talent to do it within the space of just a few sentences. Men are “stridently for” a strong, independent, critically thinking Sarah Palin and “Men are afraid of strong, independent, critically thinking women:”]
Sarah Palin is controlled by her pastor and her husband, who she emailed on every issue facing her as mayor and governor. She has no original ideas…..she is a Manchurian Candidate.
{Yeppers… and that’s why she was voted in as governor of her state and has approval ratings north of 70 percent. Because she’s “controlled” by men.]

Posted by: jack burton | September 12, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am

Seems to me the comments from conservatives are vindictive and demeaning… hateful and closed minded. Sarah is pretty, feisty, and willing to be molded into whatever her party wants her to be– “without blinking” as she herself said. A crash course on how to be a VP isn’t exactly what Americans need now. This is not a popularity contest, it’s serious business. Learn about the issues and vote for the party that will serve you best. Reps are from the past… same old “Give the rich more of MY money and IF I’m lucky I’ll get to keep my job and scrape by.” Dems have the better platform this time. Health care, education, foreign policy, national security, economy make more sense to me. Don’t exactly know what Palin thinks.. perhaps she hasn’t been told yet what to say.

Posted by: kj | September 12, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am

“her church “speaks in tongues.”"
And ~this~ is the best they can do, eh.
:-)

Posted by: jack burton | September 12, 2008, 10:58 am 10:58 am

Bad news, gals…
Obama’s 28 male staffers divided among themselves total payroll expenditures of $1,523,120. Thus, Obama’s average male employee earned $54,397.
Obama’s 30 female employees split $1,354,580 among themselves, or $45,152, on average.
On average, Obama’s female staffers earn just 83 cents for every dollar his male staffers make
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NmEzMTZmNTk5MDI0NTZmNjUwMjllN2ZlZTc0MWFmYzY=

Posted by: jack burton | September 12, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am

McCain’s 17 male staffers split $916,914, thus averaging $53,936. His 25 female employees divided $1,396,958 and averaged $55,878.
On average, according to these data, women in John McCain’s office make $1.04 for every dollar a man makes. In fact, ceteris paribus, a typical female staffer could earn 21 cents more per dollar paid to her male counterpart — while adding $10,726 to her annual income — by leaving Barack Obama’s office and going to work for John McCain.

Posted by: jack burton | September 12, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am

“Seems to me the comments from conservatives are vindictive and demeaning… hateful and closed minded.”
Who said…
Sarah Palin is….trooper gate, token candidate, self-righteous zealot,
She sure couldn’t schmooze with heads of state as she is a menopausal pitbull and she will set women’s rights back 100 yrs.
Sarah Palin is controlled by her pastor and her husband,
She has no original ideas…..she is a Manchurian Candidate.
she’s nothing but an extreme right-wing, corrupt neo-con hypocrite with a pretty face.”
She would’ve been seen as the incurious, ill-educated, right-wing extremist she is.
Would you like a couple hundred more? Or do you give up now?

Posted by: jack burton | September 12, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am

The left is going bananas over Governor Palin’s answer to Gibson’s “Bush Doctrine” question. I thought I’d add a little history of the “Bush Doctrine” using the search function at NYTimes.com.
http://media.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ODFkOTU3MjUwYWM4N2I1NzE2ZjU3NGQzZjg0MzYyZjk=

Posted by: jack burton | September 12, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am

Jack,
If McCain/Palin openly support the Bush agenda, and we know where this country has gone since Bush became president, what good can they possibly do for this country? Our economy sucks, people are foreclosing on their homes faster than ever, more people continue dying in Iraq, and we have an unfathomable deficit. Sounds great to me.

Posted by: Barb | September 12, 2008, 11:19 am 11:19 am

Please put aside that we are speaking about a woman. Put aside what “side” you are on and you’ll notice the simple fact that she is unintelligent and dangerous. Just like Mr. Bush. Mr. Bush has the lowest approval rating for a president ever. The McCain/Palin ticket, if not for the likes of Karl Rove and his chronies, would be getting the same reaction.

Posted by: HB | September 12, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am

Sarah Palin is pretty, reasonably smart, and a fabulous public speaker. She could carry any message and deliver it convincingly. The problem lies not in who she is but what she has done in the past. Her actions have been terribly unethical and even immoral at times.

Posted by: Kathy | September 12, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am

“Jack,
If McCain/Palin openly support the Bush agenda, and we know where this country has gone since Bush became president, what good can they possibly do for this country? Our economy sucks, people are foreclosing on their homes faster than ever, more people continue dying in Iraq, and we have an unfathomable deficit. Sounds great to me.”
1) McCain has been the number one critic of Bush’s lack of resolve in regard to vetoing the excessive spending of Congress. But I guess you don’t know that, eh.
2) The “economy” by objective, measurable standards is not doing bad at all. Yes, there are always people hurt in transitional times (the buggywhip manufacturers are still complaining about those new-fangled cars) but the strenghth of the nation is not measured in how many sad stories one can find.
3)Congress was warned years ago that Freddie//Fannie Mae was out of control and going to crash… and they did nothing about it. Do you think there is a reason why Congress approval is about 13% right now.
4) Yes, people die in a war. Good thing your attitude wasn’t prevalent in 1943 or else all of Europe would be goosestepping and speaking German.
5) Ask Congress about that “deficit.” THEY are the ones that control the budget.

Posted by: jack burton | September 12, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am

“Put aside what “side” you are on and you’ll notice the simple fact that she is unintelligent and dangerous. ”
Sounds to me like another one of the comments that are “vindictive and demeaning… hateful and closed minded.”
Oh… wait… wasn’t it the ~conservatives~ who were posting comments like that?

Posted by: jack burton | September 12, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am

“Her actions have been terribly unethical and even immoral at times.”
And ~which~ actions have these been? Be specific. Give detail.

Posted by: jack burton | September 12, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am

The economy has posted 2 consecutive quarters of growth. Foreclosures are not a result of the economy – the economy (since you believe it is bad) is a result of foreclosures. The American people, as usual, over-extended themselves. The deficit didn’t start yesterday, 1 year ago or 8 years ago – there has yet to be the right combination in the executive branch which controlled spending. The gov’t has been a sad reflection of the typical American – spend more than you earn.
As far as Palin goes – remember, she is #2 on the ticket. The focus should be the #1 spot and if you stop treating your party affiliation as a religious belief, you might see things as they are and be able to make an intelligent choice. Wait, intelligent and liberal is an oxymoron.
McCain/Palin 08!

Posted by: Mary in AZ | September 12, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am

America embracing Sarah Palin as the possible leader of the free world (If John McCain is unable to finish his tenure in office) is the equivalent of you hearing about some new miracle weight loss drug and then deciding that that is all you, your family, and everyone you ever met or ever will meet, needs to be thin, glamorous, rich, successful and happy for the rest of your life! This is about judgement, plain and simple. It’s about choosing someone to represent the whole of the people of the United States, not just the lunatic fringe. Remember, more people have died in the name of religion, than for any other reason under the sun. We need someone with sound judgement to keep our country safe and to protect the rights of ALL the people.

Posted by: Barbara P. | September 12, 2008, 11:52 am 11:52 am

Who Hates Sarah Palin?
Wednesday, September 10, 2008
By Greg Gutfeld
According to many in the media, we truly have discovered someone worse than Hitler — and it’s Sarah Palin.
Head to any left-wing blog or even CNN for that matter and you’ll find the zaniest of conspiracies — froth that even a dude with rabies would find unseemly.
So how can one person create so much bile among folks who claim to be the most tolerant in the universe? I mean, liberals are the good people: They’re open-minded, caring and of course, fair.
But somehow, a Republican lady in her 40s is exempt from this treatment. Perhaps, she truly is the devil in a dress, a ghoul that eats children and pollutes the planet and possibly beats Barack Obama, the patron saint of every customer buying wheat germ in bulk at GNC.
But I know the real reason why every single elitist media type is terrified of her. They’ve never met her. And by “her,” I don’t mean Sarah Palin. I mean “her”, an actual normal woman with a bunch of kids, an average husband and no desire to watch “The L Word.”
She’s scary to these folks the way Wal-Mart is scary to them: Both are alien to someone who blogs about their chakras. They won’t go there, because they’ve never been there.
To them, hating Sarah Palin is a symptom of larger bigotry against the rest of us, the normal. If they saw her at a party, they would wonder how she got in. She’s the anti-Obama, the anti-New York Times, the anti-everything that Tim Robbins loves, which is why I love her — and you should too.

Posted by: Heidi | September 12, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am

I can’t believe a woman would vote for Palin just because she is a woman! Rather than helping to break through the glass ceiling, she is helping to put in a new one. Why? She is the perfect puppet for the male majority. She looks cute but has little else but the knowledge of how to play the coy little helpless thing that many males want to protect.
Look at how her interview with Charlie Gibson went. When she couldn’t answer a simple question regarding an important doctrine President Bush put into place — who is a fellow Republican — she tries to cover her ignorance with by the standard throwing back a question, “PALIN: In what respect, Charlie?” Politically, given the issues of this election it’s like Gibson asked – what’s 2 + 2 “PALIN: In what respect, Charlie?” No wonder, Gibson had to look at his notes and ask this SIMPLE question again. But, rather than most Americans seeing her ignorance, they saw Gibson as being harsh and rude. Yet, they gave Hillary hell for allowing her eyes to tear up for a second.
Sure, she’s a “working mom” and it’s “sexist” to question her desire to take on such a time-consuming responsibility such as this campaign when she has a special needs infant at home. But if she wants equal treatment, then why was most of her acceptance speech about her family and husband — clearly devoid of any pressing political issues.
We need someone with the intelligence to help run this country, not someone who would be detrimental to women’s rights by merely being a puppet for men to manipulate bringing back the stereotype that women are good for little else but to look at — but look we put one in an important position (pat on back).

Posted by: Lisa Perry | September 12, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm

I think Charlie tried very hard to get straight answers out of Palin. She just seems afraid to lets show who she really is. Actually I don’t think she knows and if she doesn’t know her on mind how can we even make any kind of judgement on her. I did not hear her answer one question, Charlie asked she just kept dancing around the questions and he would ask them over and over she still never gave a straight answer. Very scary. Because we can not only think of her as vice president we have to think about possibly become president. America is so close to being in shi–r this would put it over the top. Women we need to think with our heads, WE ARE NOT STUPID SO LET”S NOT ACT STUPID. MCBUSH-PALIN IS NOT THE ANSWER TO OUR PROBLEMS.IN ALL LIKELYHOOD MAKE THINGS SO MUCH WORSE.

Posted by: tami | September 12, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm

“It’s about choosing someone to represent the whole of the people of the United States, not just the lunatic fringe”
Sounds to me like another one of the comments that are “vindictive and demeaning… hateful and closed minded.”
Oh… wait… wasn’t it supposed to be the ~conservatives~ who were posting comments like that?

Posted by: jack burton | September 12, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm

Who cares what all 80,000 nags think you have no credibility no doubt the majority of you would rather have Hillary and her five timing or more idiot husband how many of you would put up with that from your husband, partner,lover what ever you want to call her. This is all about pro-choice the choice you just decided to give yourself’s.

Posted by: FA | September 12, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm

Why are you liberals so mean and angry?
Sarah is right for this country. Low taxes, the right energy policy, security of this country. You want socialism –go to Europe.

Posted by: JD | September 12, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm

There is no comparison between Hillary and Palin (what’s her name). McCain is suffering from demetria and needed a pretty woman to look at and choose Palin. McCain’s whole campaign now seems to be built around him picking the “Bridge to Nowhere Woman”. I believe if he wanted a women, there are a number of great contenders available; so why Palin?

Posted by: Carolyn Townsend | September 12, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm

Although I am registered as a Democrat, I was leaning toward voting independent this election when Hillary lost the nomination. I find the democratic party frustrating. The are spineless when it comes to opposing the Bush administration’s policies and supreme court justice nominations. I find very little differences between the two party. However, the thought of Palin being a heartbeat away from the presidency scares the day light out of me; I will be voting for Obama. I find the McCaine-Palin ticket insulting. Palin is no Hillary. Palin doesn’t represent what I stand for. Does the McCaine campaign thinks that women will vote for Palin because we share the same reproductive system? The recent positive poll endorsement of Palin from white female voters makes me doubt that as a group we made that much progress toward women’s right and in fact I think we have regressed. Why aren’t the American women concern with the real issues? What about equal pay for equal work and the right to choose? Being a former beauty queen, working mother, having a child with down syndrome, having a unwed pregnant teenager, and living in a state that is close to Russia doesn’t qualify you for the second highest office. If it does, then all females that fit Palin’s profile should also qualify for the position. Those are the only true facts about Palin. Everything that she has claimed in her speeches are lies. Why are women allowing the Republican party to use someone as dangerous as Palin, under the false pretense of women’s right, as a pawn for their party?

Posted by: No Palin | September 12, 2008, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm

I can’t believe a woman would vote for Palin just because she is a woman!
[But you do believe that people vote for Hillary “just because she is a woman”?]
Rather than helping to break through the glass ceiling, she is helping to put in a new one. Why? She is the perfect puppet for the male majority. She looks cute but has little else but the knowledge of how to play the coy little helpless thing that many males want to protect.
[Yeppers… and that is why the good citizens voted her in as Governor over several men. Because she “looks cute,” is a “perfect puppet,” and has “little else but the knowledge of how to play the coy little helpless thing that many males want to protect.”]
Look at how her interview with Charlie Gibson went. When she couldn’t answer a simple question regarding an important doctrine President Bush put into place — who is a fellow Republican — she tries to cover her ignorance with by the standard throwing back a question, “PALIN: In what respect, Charlie?”
[The left is going bananas over Governor Palin's answer to Gibson's "Bush Doctrine" question. I thought I'd add a little history of the "Bush Doctrine" using the search function at NYTimes.com.
Mr. Bush acknowledged that he had yet to fully form the ''Bush doctrine,'' or to think through how the American victory in Iraq would affect his vow to deal with weapons of mass destruction on a global basis.
http://media.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ODFkOTU3MjUwYWM4N2I1NzE2ZjU3NGQzZjg0MzYyZjk=
Exit question: How do you know a liberal woman is lying? If her fingers are typing.]
Politically, given the issues of this election it’s like Gibson asked – what’s 2 + 2 “PALIN: In what respect, Charlie?”
[Actually, it is much more like Gibson asking, “So, what do you think of the universe.”]
No wonder, Gibson had to look at his notes and ask this SIMPLE question again. But, rather than most Americans seeing her ignorance, they saw Gibson as being harsh and rude. Yet, they gave Hillary hell for allowing her eyes to tear up for a second.
[No… they saw Gibson as a mope who was trying to play “gotcha.”]
Sure, she’s a “working mom” and it’s “sexist” to question her desire to take on such a time-consuming responsibility such as this campaign when she has a special needs infant at home.
[Is it “sexist” to question a male candidate’s desire to take on such a time-consuming responsibility such as a campaign when he has a special needs infant at home.]
But if she wants equal treatment, then why was most of her acceptance speech about her family and husband — clearly devoid of any pressing political issues.
[Here’s the transcript. You can see for yourself how much of a lie the above statement is.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26535811/ ]
We need someone with the intelligence to help run this country, not someone who would be detrimental to women’s rights by merely being a puppet for men to manipulate bringing back the stereotype that women are good for little else but to look at — but look we put one in an important position (pat on back).
{Yep… the Governor was elected to the highest state office in Alaska and one of the only 50 governors in the United States only because she was “good for little else but to look at” and the voters understood that she was a “puppet for men to manipulate.”]

Posted by: jack burton | September 12, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm

HA! Typical frightened little boys and girls. Hate-filled, small-minded, small-genitaliaed jackaninies, and you neocon-women who follow them will bring down this country.
Wait…they already have! Eight years of this dreck. Eight years of evangelical bullying, hatred and ignorance and you want more. Masochists.
Did you even watch the interview? Did you hear the dribble this useless shill spouted? She could barely get the talking points together, never mind communicating an original thought that wasn’t injected into her mind by her boss.
Ignorant, uber-religious wing nuts. I hope Obama gets elected, teaches your ignorant brats about evolution and makes them read Nabokov’s Lolita, raises taxes on all the rich, whiteys and fires up the liberals to rise against you insane neocons.
And I don’t even like Obama. But just to spite you sycophants, I’m gonna vote for him.
BTW, jealous old hags?? Dope. Do your research and you’ll find mostly YOUNG, EDUCATED, CAPABLE and HOT women who support Obama/Biden and aren’t stupid enough to buy into McSame’s sexist ideology that gender follows gender.
You hausfraus who ARE naive enough to follow this woman/child’s rhetoric deserve what you get: your bodies ruled, your environment polluted, your books banned and your children sent to white the rich white man’s war!

Posted by: Jack | September 12, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm

Palin is a smart, capable, trustworthy, classy, well-spoken woman. I love that this sweet girl-next-door has all the liberal half wits like the women who wrote this pathetic blog scared to death! And jealous.
Haha!

Posted by: Jodi | September 12, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm

“There is no comparison between Hillary and Palin (what’s her name).”
1) Ain’t that the truth.
2) Palin’s husband hasn’t been catting around for decades
3) Palin got elected on HER own name.
4) Palin never thought she was co-president of the United States.
5) Palin never turned a thousand dollars into one hundred thousand dollars based on exceptionally shady finacial transactions.
6) Palin never once “lost” important papers that somehow magically turned up in her home years later.
7) Want more comparisons?

Posted by: jack burton | September 12, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm

I was a Hillary supporter and after witnessing what the Obama/Axlerod campaign did to her (and Bill) and the lib media…basically kick her in the teeth, I MUST and WILL vote McCain/Palin. The day Hillary dropped out I contributed to McCain, as Obama is unacceptable in everyway. He has nothing in his resume except 143 days in the Senate and 130 present votes, while he campaigns in his 57 Islamic states. He is scarey.
Women against women is fascinating to me…even the blacks embrace their own as evidenced by the 98% supporting Obama (they are 14% of our population). Ladies….you must want to wait another 24 years to see a nominee….like Ferraro. Hillary was the most amazing candidate to come along and look what they did to her (yes, Obama)….SHE WOULD UNDERSTAND WHY I’M VOTING McCAIN/PALIN.

Posted by: Debra | September 12, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm

the thought of Palin being a heartbeat away from the presidency scares the day light out of me;
[The thought of Barry being the heartbeat of the presidency scares the daylight out of most people.]
Does the McCaine campaign thinks that women will vote for Palin because we share the same reproductive system? The recent positive poll endorsement of Palin from white female voters makes me doubt that as a group we made that much progress toward women’s right and in fact I think we have regressed.
[I guess you just answered your own question, eh. Yes, McCain thinks that… and you just admitted that he’s right.]
Being a former beauty queen, working mother, having a child with down syndrome, having a unwed pregnant teenager, and living in a state that is close to Russia doesn’t qualify you for the second highest office. If it does, then all females that fit Palin’s profile should also qualify for the position. Those are the only true facts about Palin.
[Dear Readers, please note how the hysterical womyn have to totally ignore the TRUE FACT that Gov. Palin has been elected as the highest state official in her state, and is one of the only fifty state governors in the United States. One day some of you are going to wake up and wonder just why this is. :-) ]
Everything that she has claimed in her speeches are lies.
[Please list these “lies.” Be specific. Give detail.]

Posted by: jack burton | September 12, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm

HA! Typical frightened little boys and girls. Hate-filled, small-minded, small-genitaliaed jackaninies, and you neocon-women who follow them will bring down this country.
Did you hear the dribble this useless shill spouted? She could barely get the talking points together, never mind communicating an original thought that wasn’t injected into her mind by her boss.
Ignorant, uber-religious wing nuts. I hope Obama gets elected, teaches your ignorant brats about evolution and makes them read Nabokov’s Lolita, raises taxes on all the rich, whiteys and fires up the liberals to rise against you insane neocons.
—————————
Sounds to me like another one of the comments that are “vindictive and demeaning… hateful and closed minded.”
Oh… wait… wasn’t it supposed to be the ~conservatives~ who were posting comments like that?

Posted by: jack burton | September 12, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm

The Victa-crat pary….supposed to be the party of Tolerence, but only when you do and say as they tell you. C’mon Dem women, join the ranks…don’t let them threaten you with that lose your right to choose crap…..ain’t going to happen, ladies, not in today’s sexualized culture. And who would vote on one issue anyway.
CHANGE IS COMING AND IT’S McCAIN/PALIN..real reformers who will appoint Republicans AND DEMOCRATS to his cabinet….the wealthiest to take only $1 in salary. True Bipartisan government….I believe McCain, as his ego isn’t more important than his country. Obama DOES EVERYTHING FOR HIMSELF….DOESN’T DESERVE TO BE POTUS!

Posted by: Debra | September 12, 2008, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm

McCain could have picked a African-American women who had short hair, wore pant suits and had a husband and 2 children and the feminist/liberal movement would still be insulted. “Does McCain think we’re so stupid that we would vote for him just because he chose a woman who stands for everything we’d stand for? I’m insulted!”

Posted by: Mary in AZ | September 12, 2008, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm

All this neocon rage tells me you are all afraid. Are you scared that Obama will favor the black man, and leave rich whitey in the dust? Don’t worry, he’ll take care of you too.
Hey Jodi, try and actually READ something about politics.
Classy? Do her shoes match her bag?? I’m certain “classy” will get her far when she builds her bridge to nowhere and goes to war with Putin.
Enough nonsense.

Posted by: Jack | September 12, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm

I have been closely watching the election race from here in Canada and I am sure that people all over the world are paying close attention for many reasons – one of them being that we are watching history in the making. I rarely post even though I do read a lot of the responses. However, I find that as I watch all of this unfold, I am becoming increasingly concerned with the games that are being played in order to convince the voters who they should vote for. I watched McCain bring in Sarah Palin and I was excited that a woman was being given the opportunity (I am a woman myself, mother of five, I also had a daughter who became pregnanat and my oldest required special needs – so I thought I could relate)But, the more I see of her and the spin that McCain and his campaign are putting on this, I realise that this is all about using the celebrity factor (for which he blasted the Obama faction) to bring out the crowds – something he was unable to do on his own merits. He copied them on this and then he copied them on the “Change”. You know what they say “Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery”.
I honestly believe that we will not see Palin campaigning on her own – for 2 reasons. One, McCain will not be able to deal with her having more people show up at her meetings than show up at his. And two, he cannot allow her to speak to the public and answer questions by herself. She needs to be shielded as much as possible and she needs to speak from scripts if he is to maintain the upper hand. This woman has her own agenda and he is just a pawn in her plan to become president, a position that she may honestly believe God has chosen for her.

Posted by: Vivmar | September 12, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm

Hey Jackie boy, just trying to play on your turf, baby! Hate-filled rhetoric (along with lies, pandering and incompetence, of course), got ol’ Dubya and his coterie of creeps eight years of slackin’ off and lots of nice, oil money that your kids gave their lives for. If you’re not bothered that they’re trying to flimflam you into another four, then you and yours need to get off the planet and find your own, nice, safe neoconny world.
Please, please do. Maybe ya’ll can fund the spaceship through another war. Wheeee!!

Posted by: Jack | September 12, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm

“All this neocon rage tells me you are all afraid.”
Let me quote from the original article…
“We felt as though McCain’s choice was this kind of way to automatically grab female voters and we found that assumption was very insulting to our intelligence as female voters in America,”
Sure sounds to me as if the “rage” is all coming from the womyn’s side of the fence.

Posted by: jack burton | September 12, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm

“This woman has her own agenda and he is just a pawn in her plan to become president, a position that she may honestly believe God has chosen for her. ”
Is paranoia a common occurance amoung Canadians?

Posted by: jack burton | September 12, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm

“If you’re not bothered that they’re trying to flimflam you into another four, then you and yours need to get off the planet and find your own, nice, safe neoconny world.”
And ~this~ is the very best that jack can do, eh.
:-)

Posted by: jack burton | September 12, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm

Wow, Jackie boy, if you call that rage, then you ain’t seen a pitbull with lipstick going after its prey. Or was it a pig?
Oh, and what’s a womyn? Do you write olde english, or was that a misspelling? I’m figuring the latter since neocons aren’t that bright, baby!

Posted by: Jack | September 12, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm

Warmonger, indeed…
“We should start with the premise that the United States, like all sovereign nations, has the unilateral right to defend itself against attack. As such, our campaign to take out Al Qaeda base camps and the Taliban regime that harbored them was entirely justified… (I)f we’ve got (Osama bin Laden) in our sites, we should ask for Pakistan’s cooperation, we should ask Pakistan to take him out. But if they don’t, we shouldn’t need permission to go after folks that killed 3,000 Americans.”
Oops, sorry. That was actually Barack Obama.
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/which_candidate_is_the_dangerous_one/

Posted by: jack burton | September 12, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm

Wow, Jackie boy, if you call that rage, then you ain’t seen a pitbull with lipstick going after its prey. Or was it a pig?
[Actually… I don’t think ~anyone~ has seen a “pitbull with lipstick.” Indeed, the difference that Gov. Palin specifically pointed out is that a pitbull ~doesn’t~ wear lipstick. But that’s what happens when you don’t pay attention – you make silly statements such as that.]
Oh, and what’s a womyn? Do you write olde english, or was that a misspelling? I’m figuring the latter since neocons aren’t that bright, baby!
[You’ll have to ask these womyn what it means… perhaps you think they also are not “that bright” eh.
http://www.michfest.com/
And then you can buy a t-shirt from these not too bright womyn…
http://shop.cafepress.com/design/588961 ]

Posted by: jack burton | September 12, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm

Hmmmm. Touche Jackie boy. Touche. But wait…shouldn’t you warmongers vote for him, and leave Sweet Sarah to field dress a moose.
Sadly, I have to end this repertoire to go back to my day job, slapping around neocons, but…good luck with your firings.

Posted by: Jack | September 12, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm

Latimer, you’ve got to be kidding! Now its John McCain’s fault for the slutty behavior of the rags US and People? Your statement is cheap and tawdry. You’re just another elitist thinking you can slide those kinds of statements past the public without getting called on it. Sloppy, sloppy, sloppy. The NOW feminist movement is failing because successful middle American women value their individual freedoms; they don’t want to be cowed into conforming to ANYONE’s opinions or choices. Sarah Palin is fantastic and her successes should be celebrated along with her supportive family, especially by women. She has already stated that she wouldn’t force her personal choices of faith and life on anyone else but would respect their personal choices. You should wish you were as classy. Shame on you Latimer.

Posted by: Ruth | September 12, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

Andrea Wrote:
“…if you want to hear something appalling? When Palin was mayor of Wasilla, the city billed sexual assault victims…for the cost of rape kits and forensic examinations.”
==========================================
Now either this is true or it is false.
Does it matter? Well, facts USED to matter in American politics – in the era B.S.P.,i.e. “Before Sarah Palin”.
Below is a link to an article in the Alaska Daily News, currently one of the few unbiased, accurate sources of information on Sarah Palin’s ACTUAL record.
Get the facts at their online newspaper: http://www.adn.com
These guys actually KNOW who Sarah Palin is, they KNOW her actual records, they base their reporting on actual FACTS, rather than the right or left-wing fantasies, fictions, distortions, lies, and blog-inspired conspiracy theories.
The ADN IS the place to get if you want to base your discussion on facts:-)
So, True or False?
When Sarah Palin was Mayor, did Wasilla bill sexual assault victims…for the cost of rape kits and forensic examinations.”
IT IS A TRUE.
More disturbing…Wasilla was the ONLY city in Alaska that charged rape victims. The ONLY city.
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Here’s some of what you’ll read in todays ADN.
“…Eight years ago, complaints about charging rape victims for medical exams in Wasilla prompted the Alaska Legislature to pass a bill — signed into law by Gov. Knowles — that banned the practice [of charging rape victims for rape kits] statewide.
“There was one town in Alaska that was charging victims for this, and that was Wasilla,” Knowles said
A May 23, 2000, article in Wasilla’s newspaper, The Frontiersman, noted that Alaska State Troopers and most municipal police agencies regularly pay for such exams, which cost between $300 and $1,200 apiece.
“(But) the Wasilla police department does charge the victims of sexual assault for the tests,” the newspaper reported.
Read more on the front page of today’s Alaska Daily News:
http://www.adn.com/sarah-palin/story/522583.html

Posted by: niccolo m@cchiavelli | September 12, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

Jack attempts:
“Hmmmm. Touche Jackie boy. Touche. But wait…shouldn’t you warmongers vote for him, and leave Sweet Sarah to field dress a moose.”
Mr. Burton responds:
I retired with 26 years in the military. My brother is retired military. My wife retired with 26 years in. Her father was retired military. Out of her 28 cousins 17 of them are either career military or married to one. We’ve lost track of the number of younger generation in the military.
Unlike you, our family knows what war is. And, like Sen. McCain said,
“I hate war. It’s terrible beyond imagination. I’m running for president to keep the country I love safe and prevent other families from risking their loved ones in war as my family has. I will draw on all my experience with the world and its leaders, and all the tools at our disposal — diplomatic, economic, military, and the power of our ideals — to build the foundations for a stable and enduring peace.”
Jack tries again:
Sadly, I have to end this repertoire to go back to my day job, slapping around neocons, but…good luck with your firings.
Mr. Burton points out:
Cotton swabs and marshmallows seem to be your “weapons of choice” for your “slapping around.” I’ve seem better commenters from the third grade class. :-)

Posted by: jack burton | September 12, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm

So, True or False?
When Sarah Palin was Mayor, did Wasilla bill sexual assault victims…for the cost of rape kits and forensic examinations.”
——————————–
So… true or false?
1) Did this practice begin ~prior~ to Mayor Palin?
2) Did she have the power to overturn it?
3) Did she agree with the practice?
4) Did she disagree with the practice?
5) Do other cities across the nation have (had) the same policy?
When you can answer those then you might actually have a story.

Posted by: jack burton | September 12, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm

Sarah’s bridge
The bridge, a span from the city to Gravina Island, home to only a few dozen people, secured a $223 million earmark in 2005. The pricey designation raised a furor and critics, including McCain, used the bridge as an example of wasteful federal spending on politicians’ pet projects…
…National fury over the bridge caused Congress to remove the earmark designation, but Alaska was still granted an equivalent amount of transportation money to be used at its own discretion.
Last year, Palin announced she was stopping state work on the controversial project, earning her admirers from earmark critics and budget hawks from around the nation. The move also thrust her into the spotlight as a reform-minded newcomer.
The state, however, never gave back any of the money that was originally earmarked for the Gravina Island bridge, said Weinstein and Elerding.
Read complete article at:
http://www.reuters.com/article/vcCandidateFeed7/idUSN3125537020080901

Posted by: Richard Banks | September 12, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm

Strength is not found in a rifle…
Intelligence is not found in empty rhetoric…
A voice for women and girls (and me) is not found in Sarah Palin!

Posted by: Hope | September 12, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm

Time reported last week, for example, that Palin asked the Wasilla librarian, Mary Ellen Baker, about the process for banning books. Baker was reportedly “aghast” at the question. Soon after taking office, Palin, according to a New York Times report, fired Baker, and news reports from the time indicate that Palin thought Baker hadn’t done enough to give her “full support” to the mayor.
Palin reversed course on Baker’s dismissal after a local outcry, and later said the discussions about banning books were “rhetorical.”
But as long as McCain aides are talking about this issue, maybe they can answer a couple of additional questions, such as, “Why did Palin try to fire the librarian in the first place?” Or how about, “Why did Palin broach the subject of book-banning if she had no intention of trying to ban books?”

Posted by: Rodney Meldley | September 12, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm

Another day, another skeleton in Sarah Palin’s closet. Via ABC News comes word of a second questionable firing of a government employee. You’ll recall that Palin is currently under investigation for canning a public safety commissioner who did not fire a state trooper who just so happened to be her ex-brother-in-law. The findings of that case should be out just in time for the election, unless GOP lawyers can work their magic and suppress their release.
But back to the latest scandal-in-waiting, and this one should really have people scratching their heads:
After taking over as mayor of the small town of Wasilla, Palin fired the longtime local police chief. The former police chief, Irl Stambaugh says he was fired because he stepped on the toes of Palin’s campaign contributors, including bar owners and the National Rifle Association.
Stambaugh’s lawyer, William Jermain, says the chief tried to move up the closing hours of local bars from 5 a.m. to two a.m. after a spurt of drunk driving accidents and arrests.
Odd coincidence: Palin’s husband was charged with DUI back in 1986. An interesting guy, Todd Palin. He also belonged to the AIP, that Alaskan secessionist party whose founder often spews about how he hates America’s government, and has cursed the flag. I thought of that when watching the video essay on the American flag at last night’s GOP convention.
By David Knowles, aol news

Posted by: Arthur O'Neil | September 12, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm

McCain should be ashamed of the danger he has put us all in by the selection of Sarah Palin. He would do anything to win. She is so far from what this country needs right now it isn’t funny and McCain sounds like a bungling old man when he defends her and can someone please define what an “Energy Expert” is and tell me what credentials she has that allows McCain to say she the most energy knowledge of anyone in the country and that this is more important that foreign affairs experence. Wake up people the republicans playing us for fools if we let this happen.

Posted by: Sarah | September 12, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm

whites have accused us blacks for the longest for voting because of race. Well being a black woman i’m getting sick of woman that are pro palin because she’s a woman. Most palin supporters are so wrapped in the word “hockey mom” and womans “role model” that they choose to ignore or just dont want to research her record, or her ACTUAL experience revelant to job she’s to be elected for.
I hate emotional voters. lets stick to the issues guys. this isnt the miss america pageant

Posted by: dana | September 12, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

Veronica, you are an ass! you never heard of the woman before last week but now YOU know she’s going to hell. I think that because of the way you think you’ll know for sure having the room next door.

Posted by: bombem | September 12, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm

Palin’s Hockey Rink Leads
To Legal Trouble in Town She Led
By MICHAEL M. PHILLIPS
September 6, 2008; Page A5
Full story:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122065537792905483.html

Posted by: Openyour Eyes | September 12, 2008, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm

The more you attack Palin, the more popular she becomes! News for all of you ignorant, hypocritcal Obama supporters… mainstream America,the heartland,Christians, support and think like Sarah Palin. We love God. We love our country. We lover our families. We are tolerant of others beliefs and ideas, and we believe people have a right to live their own lives. This campaign has shown the real face of all liberals– intolerance if you don’t think like them. Keep spinning!
McCain/Palin 08

Posted by: Patty | September 12, 2008, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm

dana…..WE have as much right as YOU to put our support behind Gov. Palin, as WE identify with HER. For what it’s worth I was for Hillary because of her strength and intelligence and B. Hussein has a paper thin resume and is clearly lacking in JUDGEMENT….so I immediately switched my support to McCain when Hill dropped out. Adding Gov. Palin just makes the deal so much sweeter.
If 14% of Amercians can choose Obama because of his skin color and not be questioned than god da– it, WE WOMEN SHOULD NOT BE QUESTIONED EITHER.
I could never vote for the MOST LIBERAL CANDIDATE TO EVER RUN…..LOOK AT THE HISTORY BOOKS, AMERICANS VOTE RIGHT OF CENTER….EXCEPT WHEN CENTRISTS LIKE BILL CLINTON RUN.

Posted by: Debra | September 12, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm

Yes it is dana, that’s exacty what it is, “IT”S A MRS AMERICA CONTEST” and this time she will win!!!

Posted by: bombem | September 12, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm

…and by the way:
If you are a younger male candidate who thinks for himself and makes his own decisions you are “presumptuous”.
If you are an older male candidate who makes last minute decisions you refuse to explain, you are a “shoot from the hip” maverick.

Posted by: BenSmithBlog | September 12, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm

Arthur O’Neil….yeah Todd Palin had a DUI before he married Sarah from too many beers. Obama however smoked crack, did blow, a felony….so what’s your point. Everyone knows Obama was a druggie in the early 80′s.
As for Todd and accusing him of some anti American crap….LET’S JUST ROLE THE REV. WRIGHT TAPES, OBAMA’S “OLD UNCLE” AND INFLUENTIAL MENTOR…..GOD DA– AMERICA, U.S. OF K.K.K., “BILL WAS RIDIN US”, while simulating sex in the pulpit.
When will you Bots get over the ridiculous smears you are hoping will be taken seriously? Really, if Obama/Axlerod can’t get anything out of Alsaka with their 30 lawyers and Private Investigators swarming the state, YOU ALL NEED TO GIVE IT UP…SHE’S THE REAL DEAL AND OUR NEXT VICE PRESIDENT!

Posted by: Debra | September 12, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm

First of all, let me say I do not believe we have good choices for the presidency in either party. That being said, one must weigh the knowledge and experience of those choices. We have a history making event, either way it goes; with either the first man of color in the White House or the first female in the vice presidency. We have an opportunity to make history even further with voting someone into the vice presidency that while she is a dynamic politician, clearly does not have the knowledge or experience we as Americans not only have the right to expect, but demand. Her views are not in keeping with the forward movements of this century. She is against sex education, birth control and is pro-life. With the rate of adolescent pregnancy, who in their right mind would not want our children educated on sexual behavior, pregnancy and bringing new life into the world? When you look at third world countries, where overpopulation is a huge issue, as is starvation, who in their right mind would be against birth control? This is a very personal choice and decision which we should have the freedom to make ourselves. As for pro-life…..I believe that too is a very personal decision, one that should include all circumstances such as the age of the parent, the ability to appropriately care and provide for the child. Oh and maybe we should also take into consideration how many children are born into this world because of domestic violence (i.e. forced sex), rape and just plain lack of education. Hmmmm and Sarah doesn’t believe in sex education.
Then, we have other issues such gun control. Yes, you guessed it, she’s against it. How many people will continue to die because of the politics behind gun control or should I say lack thereof? My biggest concern is that this is a kindergarten politician about to enter a race that should be considered on a doctorate level. She does not have the experience needed for this position, and certainly does not have what appears to be needed to run this country, should something happen to Mr. McCain while holding the office of the presidency. We all should be proud, that once again, a woman is being considered for the second highest office and position of power. However, we also should be very concerned about the future of this country and our freedoms to choose. In the interviews with Charles Gibson of ABC News, Sarah Palin did not give a convincing presentation. She skirted direct questions, even getting direction from Mr. Gibson. She could not respond on issues that do and will have major impact on this country. I will admit that Mr. Gibson was pretty hard on her, however it seems appropriate considering she may well be the next vice president of our country.
Personally, I will have to think long and hard on my choices when it comes time to vote. I can guarantee one thing. I will not vote for Sarah Palin just because she’s a woman. She’s a woman, that while she is strong and outspoken, is against everything I believe in, and hope to see come of our future.

Posted by: Sheryl | September 12, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm

I’ve read through quite a few of the comments (not enough time for all 437 that have accrued so far) and it’s interesting to note that the only thing the pro-Palin commenters do is make personal insults to those expressing anti-Palin feelings (such as, “there are a lot of lesbians out there” — or “New York women need to get some action” — huh??) Schoolyard rhetoric.
All of the factual, reasoned argument comes from the anti-Palin camp. See the very first comment for an example of the solid reasoning of the pro-Palin side. Does this tell you something?
I hope and pray that there are more thinkers who vote in November than people who only know how to use the “Nuh-uh” argument. You know, “The sky is blue.” “Nuh-uh.”
The election’s gotten to be all about Sarah now. If you’re as pro-life, pro-war, anti-science, anti-environment, pro-religious dogma as she is, vote for her. That’s your right as an American. There’s absolutely a clear choice in this election. But don’t vote for her because she’s a woman. If you don’t like her policies, don’t vote for her. She certainly doesn’t represent my views, as a 52-year old woman, just ’cause she wears a skirt.
We’ll see on election day if this country has learned anything at all from the debacle of the last eight year. I hope so.

Posted by: JC | September 12, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm

I love how everyone ignores the facts and happily participates in smearing each other…we’ll never come together as a Country…sigh

Posted by: David Hart | September 12, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm

OBAMA IS NOT A LEADER!
LET’S EXAMINE WHAT HE’S DONE FOR HIS OWN CONSTITUENCY IN CHICAGO,IL.
– THEY HAVE THE HIGHEST UNEMPLOYMENT RATES IN THE COUNTRY.
– THEY HAVE SOME OF THE HIGHEST FORECLOSRE RATES IN THE COUNTRY.
– THE CHICAGO PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM IS ONE OF THE WORST IN THE COUNTRY (while Nobama’s daughters go to elite private schools.)
– HE HAS WRITTEN TWO BOOKS, BUT NO SIGNIFICANT PIECE OF LEGISLATION OR REFORM.
– HE HAS CLOSE FRIENDSHIPS WITH KNOWN TERRORISTS AND CONVICTED FELONS (eg. Bill Ayers, Tony Rezko)
– IS A KNOWN RACIST (20 year friendship with the adulterer Rev. Wright)
– HAS A WIFE WHO HAS NEVER BEEN PROUD OF HER COUNTRY, UNTIL HER HUSBAND BECAME DEM. NOMINEE FOR PRESIDENT.
– VOTE 130 TIMES PRESENT IN STATE LEGISLATURE, BECAUSE COULD NOT MAKE A DEICISION ON ISSUES.
THIS IS WHO YOU LIBERALS WANT FOR PRESIDENT? THIS SCARES ME!

Posted by: CHICAGO IN S-HOLE | September 12, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm

It’s unfortunate that Sarah Palin could set back women’s efforts to the dark ages. Just because she’s a pretty face doesn’t make her a good person (but a lot of men seem to think that’s all that matters!) It’s clear she’s not a good choice for VP, not just because she’s not qualified (just another republican hypocrisy) but because she’s anti-choice, anti-open government, anti-environment, PRO-CORPORATE. McSenile and Palin will just continue in the same vein as the bushites.

Posted by: Merry in Colorado | September 12, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm

Sorry about the URL . . . but that is the one that I created.
I am a retired Ohio University professor of design,
a retired principal of a design studio specializing in Public Relations.
May I suggest to you . . . post the latest entries as they come in.
B. Deahl
Athens, Ohio

Posted by: B. Deahl | September 12, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm

A Tick-Tock of The Big Palin Scandal
In Alaska, it’s known as Troopergate and, sometimes, Wootengate.
Newly selected GOP vice-presidential nominee Sarah Palin, Alaska’s first female governor, has been dogged by controversy since July 11, when she fired Public Safety Commissoner Walter Monegan. At the time, a spokesperson for Palin said the 44-year-old governor wanted to take the public safety department in a new direction. Monegan said any complaints from the governor about his job performance had “never been communicated” to him.
Then things started to get messy. Reports arose that Palin had fired Monegan because, despite pressure from her, her family, and her staff, he had refused to fire State Trooper Mike Wooten, the ex-husband of Palin’s sister, Molly McCann. Monegan told The Anchorage Daily News that “for better than a year,” his office had received phone calls and other inquiries from Palin’s office and even her husband, Todd, about why Wooten hadn’t been dismissed. At the time, he was embroiled in a custody fight with McCann. Todd said he had set up a meeting with Monegan in December 2006, just after his wife took office, to discuss Wooten, but insisted that he never told Monegan to fire the trooper.
Full story:
http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2008/08/29/a-tick-tock-of-the-big-palin-scandal.aspx

Posted by: Bryson | September 12, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm

Palin’s Post-Scandal Appointee Served Just Two Weeks
By Kate Klonick – August 29, 2008, 7:32PM
It looks like there’s even more muck than meets the eye in Trooper-Gate.
After the allegedly improper firing of Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin (R) appointed former Kenai Police Chief Chuck Kopp to the post.
Kopp served just two weeks this summer as the head of law enforcement in Alaska, resigning on July 25, after a past complaint of sexual harassment and a subsequent letter of reprimand surfaced in news reports.
But Palin made sure he had a soft fall from grace, giving him a $10,000 severance package for just two weeks served.
While Palin has conceded she was aware of the past complaint against Kopp, she claims that she thought the complaint had been unsubstantiated and was unaware of the letter of reprimand.

Posted by: Gus Mortinson | September 12, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm

Is this actually the “Jack Burton” comment section or what?
I see that he responded to some statements in my post, but I see no indication that he has made an attempt to actually go through the thread and read the misogynist comments from many male posters, who can’t seem to disagreed with a Democratic woman without calling her a Lesbian, a hag or a nag. Yet, Sarah Palin (and their own apparently insecure sexuality) is clearly off-limits.

Posted by: Sara in MN | September 12, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm

SARAH PALIN IS NOT OPPOSED TO GOING TO WAR WITH RUSSIA
Written by CORKSPHERE on Sep-12-08 2:16am
From: corksphere.blogspot.com
I was shocked beyond belief when asked if we would have to go to war with Russia because of their invasion of Georgia, her answer was a flippant “Perhaps so.” I am still trying to wrap my brain around that answer since the head of our country namely our president and vice president must exude an air of confidence. That answer is tantamount to sticking one’s finger up in the air and seeing which way the wind blows.
What Palin fails to realize is Russia’s nuclear capability as well as the toll taken when humans are sent into the battle field. We are already bogged down in Iraq and we also have troops in Afghanistan as well as limited forces in Pakistan. With what military force can we even think of going to war with Russia?
In closing we have already lost too many troops. In Iraq we have lost to date, 4,158 and in Afghanistan we have lost, 519. Should McCain and Palin choose to go to war with Russia, I cannot even fathom the count. Can you?

Posted by: Lou Marconi | September 12, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm

Since a vice president can be kept in a do-nothing position the serious issue may not be Palin herself. Much more serious and telling is that McCain has such egocentric ambition and complete disregard for the American people that he has not bothered to provide a clearly experienced and capable person to replace him should he be unable to finish the job.

Posted by: June | September 12, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm

It scares the hell out of me that Sarah Palin could possibly become President if John Mc were to die in the next 4 years. I do not agree with her beliefs, i.e.., women’s right to choose, global warming, endangered species, drilling there is some much more. I think John could have picked a women who was much more qualified. Just think if Obama would have picked Hillary, she would have chewed Sarah up and spit her out.

Posted by: Stephanie R | September 12, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm

More on Trooper Gate:
But, Sarah Palin is currently under an ethics investigation by the Alaska state legislature. The details of this investigation read like a trashy novel, and I suspect that the players will soon have new found celebrity on the national stage. I’ll try to explain for all you non-Alaskans who suddenly have good reason to want to know more about Sarah Palin. For those of you not interested in trashy novels, feel free to skip ahead. Here it is…what we in Alaska call “TrooperGate”.
Full story:
http://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/08/29/what-is-mccain-thinking-one-alaskans-perspective/

Posted by: John Simons | September 12, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm

Sarah Palin’s nomination is an insult to all women! The republicans think just because she “wears lipstick” all of the female Hilary supporters will be willing to go blindly along. I was a Hilary supporter but I am very happy to say I will be voting for Obama in November. My vote has nothing to do with gender or race it has everything to do with policy. Fix the economy! Stop the war! Preserve a woman’s right to choose! Provide national healthcare! Bring our country back to the position of world respect that we enjoyed when Bill Clinton was president. The current administration is an embarrassment to all Americans and we don’t need four more years of that.

Posted by: tptsharron | September 12, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm

“When asked last month about the vice presidency, she [Sarah Palin] said, ‘I still can’t answer that question until someone answers for me: ‘What is it exactly that the VP does every day?’ When asked about Iraq, she said, ‘I haven’t really focused much on the war in Iraq.’ ”
-Gloria Steinem, September 4, 2008

Posted by: Frank Lorca | September 12, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm

can someone please explain to the governor what it’s like to be a rape victim? no feeling, thinking human being would force their own raped daughter to have a rape baby. she should have her daughters taken away from her for their own safety. the only thing worse than a rapist is a person that sanctions one. how can you call yourself pro life when you would callously destroy women’s and girl’s souls without blinking an eye?

Posted by: Donna Gonzalez | September 12, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm

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democrat idiots are a disgrace. Can’t have Hitlery so cut Palin’s throat.
At least Palin didn’t DODGE SNIPER FIRE IN BOSNIA.
She is smart, can give speeches that inspire, not put to sleep like Hitlery. And even though you deserve it, she won’t Vince Foster you.
She IS going to be president one day. REad it and weep.
Palin – 08

Posted by: LarryMan | September 12, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm

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Can someone please explain to Donna Gonzalez what it is like to take forceps and punch in the skull of a poor, innocent, defenseless baby.
Too bad no one used forceps on you back before you crossed the border.
Not every idiot in this country is heartless enough to want to kill a tiny, living being. Forgot, democrats have no heart.
Palin – 08

Posted by: LarryMan | September 12, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm

As you can see from my email address, I was (am) a Hockey Mom. Sara Palin does NOT represent me, anymore than John McCain now represents me because I am not old. I have been married 34 years to the same man and have two grown up daughters. My younger daughter, who still plays hockey as an adult, is a teacher and soon to be married. My older daughter is a lesbian and we fully support her the way she is. I am as proud of her as my straight daughter.
I instilled GOALS in my daughters, the first and foremost which WASN’T to get married and have babies ASAP. I can say that having been married for decades myself. You need to become YOU first.
Again Sara Palin does NOT represent me OR my daughters.

Posted by: Joanne Hublitz | September 12, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm

I dont know what it feels like to be raped, BUT I do know what it feels like to be the product of a rape, However, I was put up for adoption… I do not necessarily agree with abortion, as I could have feel victim to it, but I dont agree with force…. As a women and because of my background I am torn, You will never know how any of these women feel unless you walk a mile in there shoes, NOW dont get me wrong, I am Greatful so Greatful for the life that I was graced with…
I dont think it makes you any less human or any less of a person because you make this choice to abort, I think of different women who have been forced to carry their babies until full term knowing that their seed is already dead, forced to bear babies that have no heart beat, no life… BUT I also think about those individuals who use abortion as a way of birth control… I guess I am saying that I am empathetic towards those (in my eyes) who deserve the empathy, but that doesnt make me right and that doesnt make me the expert on the subject, I can only speak for myself and how I feel…
the problem that I have found throught these blogs is that Human beings have not been given the right to voice their own opinions (as they see it), once they do they are immediatly attacked, by both Demo and Repubs and Independents…
Judge ye not least ye be judged…

Posted by: Cicly | September 12, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm

I would love to see a woman in the White House, but Sarah Palin is not qualified to be vice president, let alone president.
As women we must make informed and intelligent decisions regarding our choices of the women we want to put in positions of power or we will only prove to the male population that we are all the things they have always said we were.
Please don’t vote for a woman just because she is a women, anymore than you would vote a man just because he is a man.
I believe there are qualified women out there and their time is coming very soon. Let’s not blow it now when we are finally being taken seriously.

Posted by: lbk | September 12, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm

Who am I?
I am under 45 years old,
I love the outdoors,
I hunt,
I am a Republican reformer,
I have taken on the Republican Party establishment,
I have many children,
I have a spot on the national ticket as vice president with less than two
years in the governor’s office.
Did you guess?
I am Teddy Roosevelt in 1900.
His image stands alongside Washington, Jefferson and Lincoln on Mount Rushmore. Surveys of scholars have consistently ranked him from third to seventh on the list of greatest American presidents.
Palin 08

Posted by: THE TRUTH | September 12, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm

Liberal claims of “the world is going to come to an end” if McCain-Palin win are greatly exaggerated. Please use original thought and logical discussion to voice your concern or choice. And don’t blame Republicans because you chose a Diva instead of Hillary. I can’t wait to see Hillary and Palin run in 2012. That will be something to remember if you whackos don’t hijack the election with your hate and smears.

Posted by: John (Colorado) | September 12, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm

As a women, I can say that I am proud of the accomplishment of ANY women who can step up and take a challenge, I am proud of women like Gov. Palin and Sen. Clinton, especially since there was a time that Women had NO voice, No voice in the home, NO voice in Politics…At the same time I am a African American, and I must say, that I am also proud of the accomplishments of Sen. Obama, again, We had no voice in the communities that we helped build at one time…. Women had the right to vote before African americans did….
Come this November i wont be voting because of a Women or Because of a African American Man, I will be voting for that individual whose voice is my voice, whose views are my views, whose concerns and issues are my concerns.. its not going to be based upon whose popular with PDIDDY or Matt Damon…..I havnt decided yet who that is, but I am taking my time and weighing the good, the bad and the ugly of all the candidates, their views on war, their backgrounds, their views on taxes, their views on college, their views on medicar and the elderly, etc… ALL the things that are important TO ME and MY FAMILY and their future, I have a daughter i have to think about her future, college… I have a grandmother in her mid 80′s I have to think about how things will effect her, I have a mother and father in there 60′s…I have a community thats important to me…
My vote is counts

Posted by: Cicly | September 12, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm

My vote is counts

Posted by: Cicly | September 12, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm

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Posted by: Cicly | September 12, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm

Its pathetic that those who claim to support Palin cannot see that based on the economic issue alone should convince them that McCain/Pailn is the WRONG CHOICE! McCain supports the Bush tax policies. Sarah Palin is not going to change that. We have objective evidence of 8 years of Bush/McCain trickel down theory–the highest unemployment in 5 years, record housing foreclosures, and a financial market that is in collapse. Is this what Pailn’s supporters want for their families and their country? This is not about who makes one feel good (frankly, Palin may be an interesting person based on my superficial impression). HOWEVER, based on her interview with Charles Gibson, Sarah Palin is not qualified. She repeated responses, redirected questions to respond to something not asked, and was not familiar with the Bush doctrine (the latter should have been a give). She is perky, pretty, knows how to thrust her fist to appear forceful. But she is vacuous and not demonstrably to think on her own. Sarah Palin is NOT the best person to be vice president of the United States.

Posted by: Su Jay | September 12, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm

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Posted by: Cicly | September 12, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm

Who am I?
i am over 45 years old.
I am a wife and mother.
I am not affiliated with either party.
I love wildlife and am environmentally conscious.
i love the outdoors.
I fear for the future.
I vote and I research issues. I am not swayed by ads.
My vote counts.It will not be for McCain.

Posted by: Emily | September 12, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm

It is evident so far that Sarah Palin’s rule structure is, “My rules for me and my rules for you.” Not my idea of going forward for change in the twenty first century.

Posted by: ubba in CA | September 12, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm

Let me say this as a 55 year old white woman. Palin/McCain will:
Start the DRAFT because of their
Wars with Iran and Russia
Overturn Roe v Wade
No health care, in fact, with McCain, no Cafeteria Plan! You’ll be taxed on all your earnings, prior to health taken out.
No more unemployment insurance. I have never collected, but others who pay in, along with their employers, need it, often desperately.
Privatize Social Security, so a couple of hedge fund managers on Wall St can make a fortune off of your hard work!
Well, no thanks. China owns enough of this country already, and with 2 more wars, they’ll own all of us and everything in this country.
NO!
STOP VOTING AGAINST YOUR OWN BEST INTERESTS! IT’S ABSURD, BECAUSE OF THE COLOR OF SOMEONES SKIN! GET REAL, MEN AND WOMEN WILL BE DRAFTED, YOU MARK MY WORDS, IT WILL HAPPEN.
Won’t matter though. Russia (oil) is the richest country on earth and has way more nuclear weapons than we and our allies combined. You won’t live to see another day, if you go to war with them. It’ll be all over then.
Good luck to ya’

Posted by: Robin | September 12, 2008, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm

ANYBODY who votes for ANY candidate solely based on their sex/race/religion is AN ABSOLUTE FOOL and is undermining democracy in this nation.

Posted by: SickOfStupid | September 12, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm

SARAH PALIN’S EXPERIENCE:
TO MY DEAR WOMEN FRIENDS:
Don’t dismiss the fact that Sarah Palin is Commander of the Alaska National Guard– consider this.
Alaska is the first line of defense in our missile interceptor defense system. The 49th Missile Defense Battalion of the Alaska National Guard is the unit that protects the entire nation from ballistic missile attacks. It’s on permanent active duty, unlike other Guard units.
As governor of Alaska , Palin is briefed on highly classified military issues, homeland security, and counterterrorism. Her exposure to classified material may rival even Biden’s and certainly by far exceeds Obama’s.
She’s also the commander in chief of the Alaska State Defense Force (ASDF), a federally recognized militia incorporated into Homeland Security’s counterterrorism plans.
Palin is privy to military and intelligence secrets that are vital to the entire country’s defense. Given Alaska ‘s proximity to Russia , she may have security clearances we don’t even know about.
According to the Washington Post, she first met with McCain in February, but nobody ever found out. This is a woman used to keeping secrets.
She can be entrusted with our national security, because she already is.
MC CAIN/PALIN 08
PALIN 2012
AND please STOP YOUR WHINING about this accomplished woman – at least give her credit – at 44 – Governor of a STATE – what have you been doing for your country lately???except what seems to be working against it AND women – talk about going backwards??

Posted by: floyovercountry | September 12, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm

I am a transsexual and me and my lover have started a blog called “Transsexuals for Barack Obama”. Can ABC create a story for us too?

Posted by: Sam_Widge | September 12, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm

Please stop calling Sarah Palin “pro-life” She is not pro-life. She is anti-abortion or pro-human-birth. After the baby is born, she doesn’t give the non-aborted baby another thought.
If she really cared about the welfare of children, she could have adopted handicapped children.
When all the children in foster care have homes, when 4 USA kids a day aren’t being abused /neglected to death by their caregivers, then maybe I’ll be anti-abortion. Until them, I’m pro abortion. Aborted babies go straight to Heaven, which I’m sure is better than living in Hell.
I challenge Sarah to move in with a family that doesn’t want her, not speak for 2 years and continue to live with that family for the next 16-18 years. The family can do anything to Sarah, and she can’t even complain. That’s what the anti-abortionist causes to happen. Yes, the mother could give the baby up for adoption, but that simply doesn’t happen very often. Hey, that’s what Bristol could do, give the baby up for adoption. Now THAT would be a good example.

Posted by: practicaloptimist | September 12, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm

@ Sep 12, 2008 1:37:32 PM
“Jack Burton” quotes me:
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So, True or False?
When Sarah Palin was Mayor, did Wasilla bill sexual assault victims…for the cost of rape kits and forensic examinations.”
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Jack Burton’s response:
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So… true or false?
1) Did this practice begin ~prior~ to Mayor Palin?
2) Did she have the power to overturn it?
3) Did she agree with the practice?
4) Did she disagree with the practice?
5) Do other cities across the nation have (had) the same policy?
When you can answer those then you might actually have a story.
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My answers:
1) Irrelevant. As mayor, she either had it in her power to change the policy, or at least express her outrage, then lead that change through whatever mechanisms were needed (City council vote, public referendum, etc).
2) See my answer to 1.
3) We don’t know, and won’t until Gov. Palin speaks out on the issue. She isn’t talking, by the way. Her spokesperson has so-far refused to answer specific questions (see article in USATODAY).
But we do know this: either she knew, and did nothng to change it, or she didn’t know and so was grossly misinformed as Mayor. She cared enough to ask the local librarian if she could ban specific books, but she never bothered to learn that her own police department was charging rape victims for rape kits? Some executive!
4) See my answer to 3
5) Irrelevant. That other mayors or cities may be grossly irresponsible, and act punitively toward rape victims is not at issue. What is at issue is that, while Sarah Palin was Mayor, Wasilla WAS THE ONLY CITY IN ALASKA to do so. The Alaskan State Legislature had to pass special legislation in order to address Wasilla’s REFUSAL to change its policy.
Yes, Wasilla’s peculiar policy came to public attention, yet Wasilla still refused to change its policy.
BTW, the Chief-of-Police in Wasilla who is on record refusing to change the city’s policy, is the Chief-of-Police that Mayor Palin appointed after firing the previous, popular Chief “because he intimidated her”.
Lastly, its not really my job to answer the above questions, as you suggest Jack Burton, it is Sarah Palin’s job to answer the questions you pose. And she is not talking to the media.

Posted by: niccolo m@cchiavelli | September 12, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm

Posted by: floyovercountry | Sep 12, 2008 6:10:52 PM
Don’t dismiss the fact that Sarah Palin is Commander of the Alaska National Guard– consider this.
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I’ll dismiss it. She is not directly or even formally responsible for the 49th Missile Defense Battalion of the Alaska National Guard.
As you note, the 49th is unit that protects the entire nation from ballistic missile attacks. It’s on permanent active duty, unlike other Guard units.
But it is run directly by the U.S. Army. As Gov. of Alaska, Sarah Palin has no more oversight, control over policy, deployment, staffing decisions, decision-making power than you or I.
She does NOT command the 49th in any meaningful sense the word COMMAND.

Posted by: niccolo m@cchiavelli | September 12, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm

I’m just an old fart, even older than John McCain. Never imagined that the selection of a bright, talented middle age female as a running mate would cause such panic among the retarded citizens and idiots among us.
Of course I realize that Obama, the messiah is not just another crooked politician from Chicago. Fifty years ago when I was graduating with my degree in Political Science, Chicago was recognized as the city where the dead elected the leadership. By 1968, the same bunch of thugs still ran the windy city. Nothing has changed, Obama epitiomizes the Chicago machine politician.
“You will be judged by the company you keep!” Obama shall in my family be judged as an associate of Tony Rezko, William Ayers, Bernadette Dohrn and other criminals and enemies that are not the ones that Barry knew. Obama is a product of Chicago machine politics, he associates with criminals and terrorists.
For me, I’ll vote for that young fellow John McCain, a man of great character and strength and for the pit bull with lipstick that came from Alaska.

Posted by: Stargazer in Savannah | September 12, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm

niccolo m@cchiavelli. The President of the United States Commands, The Governor of each of the several States command, the Commander of Centcom commands. The commander of each and every Army unit larger than a platoon commands. John McCain once commanded. Each and every one of those commands is in a ‘meaningful sense’.
Best I can tell you and Obama don’t know the difference between Command and Staff.
Your ignorance is duly noted!

Posted by: Stargazer in Savannah | September 12, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm

There are 3 main qualifications for becoming Vice President of the United States, the rest is up to you:
1) Must be a natural born citizen (or citizen) of the United States
2) Must be at least 35 years old
3) Must have been a resident living within the United States for 14 years

Posted by: DLC | September 12, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm

John McCain claims to always put his country first. If that was true, why would he pick such an inexperienced person as his running mate? There are many more qualified people who he could have picked. He picked her purely for the way she would influence the voters. She did not even know what the job of Vice President consisted of. Has she ever been to Washington? Does she know how the law works? John McCain isn’t all that smart. Do you realize that John Mccain graduated at the bottom of his class? He was 894th out of 899 graduates. By his own admission, he got barely passing grades. He only got the job as aircraft carrier pilot because his father was an admiral. He crashed 5 planes. There are numerous videos of his contradictory statements on many of the issues. Obama graduated from Harvard Law School. He had almost all A’s. He was elected president of the Harvard Law Review. He spent his time helping people get work to improve low-income neighborhoods. Obama does not take contributions from lobbyists. McCain does. Sarah Palin should not be the Vice President. What if John McCain dies the day after he takes office. We will have a President who knows nothing about the job. Please people, there is plenty of information at your fingertips to do research on the candidates. I may have considered voting for McCain until he picked Sarah Palin. He cares only about winning the election and does not care about the catastrophic effects on the country and the world of Sarah Palin as President.

Posted by: Betty | September 12, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm

This one sums it up…
http://mccainpalinworld.com/

Posted by: Florida Voter | September 12, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm

Where can I get a WOMEN AGAINST PALIN button?
J

Posted by: Jan | September 12, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm

Haven’t we had enough of the cowboy “bring ‘em on” mentality? Of the rash, act-before-you-think temperment? Of the “I don’t care what you think, I’m going to do it anyway” personality? This country and the world is desperate for some intelligent, careful, thoughtful people to be in such a powerful position. We don’t need to subject our dear world to anymore hell.

Posted by: KathleenS | September 12, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm

I was going to vote Obama but after he picked his “Hillary would have been a better pick than me” VP candidate (I agree with him by the way and probably would have voted for Obama/Clinton) and made that comment about guns and Bible in San Francisco (showing true colors?), I’m going to vote McCain/Palin.
Go Sarah, don’t you dare back down to these men and left-wing nutjob women who don’t represent my views at all.

Posted by: Former Obama Girl | September 12, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm

I’m highly offended that the current McCain/Palin ad airing in our area (New York City) assumes that we are so stupid that we don’t know who has been in office for the last eight years! They refer to “tax and spend” democrats as if Democrats were the ones who took an interited budget surplus and turned it into a giant and increasing deficit!! The last time I looked, Bill Clinton, who created a balanced budget and budget surplusses for his last two years in office, was a so-called “tax and spend” Democrat, while “Shrub-ya” is a Republican. Hello-o-o!

Posted by: Beth | September 12, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm

Beth,
LOL – That ad must have been directed by Huckabee. Remember his speech at the RNC?
I swear I thought it was a sabotage job.

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 12, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm

There are 3 main qualifications for becoming Vice President of the United States, the rest is up to you:
1) Must be a natural born citizen (or citizen) of the United States
2) Must be at least 35 years old
3) Must have been a resident living within the United States for 14 years
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Brain Cells are definitely optional.

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 12, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm

From men for the McCain/Palin ticket. Why do you want to hurt Sarah & her family. How many working moms with kids and a husband are out there? What makes you qualified to say Sarah Palin can’t do it. She has been doing it for a long time. She also has had a much more difficult position. Stop! Explain just how Sarah Palin will set back womens progress? Why wouldn’t Hillary Clinton have? Oh, I got it Shes not qualified because she is part of the GOP who believes in family values. As far as the fight she is bringing to the scared. Remember… the attacks on her came first. I’m betting she is tougher than the crazy left & the mainstream media combined!

Posted by: Paul | September 12, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm

Paul,
No, the problem is that Palin decided to raise 5 kids instead of reading books and learning how the world works.
That is not a slander I’m just saying stick with what works for you.

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 12, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm

The following message, slightly edited, was found online. It’s a message that applies to all, regardless of political affiliation or leaning.
I really hope people will read it carefully, and deeply consider what they are doing in the voting booth. An election is not a popularity contest. It is a job interview. If you were going to hire someone to run your company, would you choose the person you like the best, or the person who will perform the best?
Stop voting for people you want to have a beer with. Stop voting for folksy. Stop voting for people who remind you of your neighbor. Stop voting for the ideologically uncompromising, the staggeringly ignorant, and the blazingly incompetent.
It’s a voting booth, not a clown car.

Posted by: bjanna | September 12, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm

McCain/Palin want to impose their religious-based point of view on the women of America. Sarah Palin does not believe in abortion–does not believe women who are raped, incested or ripped apart have ANY rights and must carry their rapist’s baby to term. Now that’s the true definition of BIG GOVERNMENT!I live in Utah with it’s religious-based government. Trust me it’s oppressive.
Sarah Palin does not believe in birth control’,that it is ‘an abomination unto the LORD’!Or sex education for that matter–only abstinence based teaching–and we all can see how far that got her own unmarried daughter, Bristol–who will deliver a baby in December.
Sarah Palin doesn’t know a thing about foreign policy–ONLY THAT ALASKA IS NEXT DOOR TO RUSSIA! It’s called GEOGRAPHY,Sarah. MCCAIN/PALIN are down right SCARY! Dana in Salt Lake City, Utah

Posted by: Dana Terrill | September 12, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm

Posted by: Stargazer in Savannah | Sep 12, 2008 7:16:13 PM
You confidently conclude…
“Your ignorance is duly noted!
=======================================
“WONDERFUL WORLD OF PALIN FANTASY LAND”
Your arrogance, despite your ignorance no longer astonishes me…..
This is a pattern I’ve discovered among Palin’s supporters. Bold assertions of out-right naked lies, on the assumption I suppose, that people will just accept them at their word.
Incidentally, “Stargazer in Savannah”, I never said she doesn’t have a command role over the Alaska National Guard, I said she had NO COMMAND ROLE over the “49th Missile Defense Battalion of the Alaska National Guard.”
This was something other Palin supporters have asserted, AND IT IS NOT TRUE. Either THEY are lying, or they are ignorant.
Since you have taken their side of the argument, YOUR IGNORANCE IS DULY NOTED.;-)
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Well here are the FACTS on Gov. Palin’s COMMAND EXERIENCE for the rest of us who still live, work, and breathe in a world based on facts – you know the real world, not the “Wonderful World of Palin Fantasy Land”
The governor of Alaska has NO command role with the National Guard troops engaged in combat operations in Iraq (or anywhere else).
The governor of Alaska has NO command role with the 49th Missile Defense Battalion stationed in Alaska.
The governor of Alaska DOES HAVE a command role over the National Guard with regards to natural disasters and homeland security.
HOWEVER, these issues are handled in practice, on a day-to-day basis by a mamber of her cabinet, Maj. Gen. Craig, the adjutant general for Alaska
Maj. Gen. Craig also handles veterans’ affairs.
What is Gov. Palin’s actual direct experience? Has she ever called up the Alaska National Guard?
Gov. Palin has called up the guard ONE TIME, in 2007, to fight wildfires.
She held them on standby ONE OTHER TIME, for a 2007 whaling conference.
She was expecting radical protestors to show up to try and disrupt the conference. In the end, little happened, and the guard was never summoned.

Posted by: the dumbest b*tch alive | September 12, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm

Who are you people? Dinosaurs from caves? When my 11 year old daughter learned about Sarah Palin she said, “mom, that’s you”. I am a proud upper management full time working mother, cheerleader mom, and wife and don’t know what planet the rest of you came from but try living living in this century. McCain/Palin 2008 all the way! Or, I guess you guys like living with socialism.

Posted by: LuLu | September 12, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm

What is with these negative comments? Is that the nature of Palin supporters?The divisive nature of this campaign leaves me speechless. I came to this website because the name decribed exactly how I feel. The way I understand it is that we have the right to disagree. “Jealous old hags…”?”Waaaaa! Waaaaaaaaaa! Waaaaaaaaa! Women can’t have Hitlery…” Who are these people????

Posted by: Jacquie | September 12, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm

Everything I have learned about mccain palin scares me to death. “the dumbest b*tch alive” said”McCain/Palin 2008 all the way! Or, I guess you guys like living with socialism.” Well I sure don’t agree with that! Why would she call herself “”the dumbest b*tch alive”? But sadly, with her attitude I have to agree with her. MR. OBAMA/ MR. BIDEN to save America!

Posted by: Jacquie | September 12, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm

LuLu,
I don’t know what you are trying to say, but do you personally feel ready to run for vice president? Being just like you does not necessarily make her a good candidate. There are many women out there who would make fabulous presidents (not just Hillary). Sarah Palin just isn’t one of them, based on her previous experience and actions.

Posted by: Beth | September 12, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm

The major problem with Sarah Palin is that she truly is a loose cannon. She has a history of using her power to make life a living hell for those who vocally speak against her. Can you imagine the damage she could do at the federal level? It terrifies me.

Posted by: Julie | September 12, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm

Being a woman myself, I have been eager to see how Hilary conducted herself during the primaries and although she did not end up getting the nomination, I felt that she did an admirable job, and, at the end of it, I still have a lot of respect and admiration for her. So, when the announcement came that John McCain has selected a woman for his running mate, I was very excited. I look forward to seeing women become successful not only in the private sector but also in the public sector. I couldn’t wait to hear Palin’s speech at the convention. Oh, what a disappointment! She was so – oh, let me just say it – Catty! This is a trait that is uniquely feminine and perhaps one of the least attractive parts of the female psyche. Venom just dripped from her lips as she cut Obama to pieces. And if you look at her face, she looked like the cat who had just stolen the cream and eaten it all up. She was enjoying every minute of it. The sad part of it all was the the audience was enjoying it just as much. Now, in alll fairness, I did not like Rudy Guilliani’s speech any more than hers but I was hoping that, as a woman, she would be able to rise above all this and deliver a speech that hit home with all the points she want to touch on but do it in an honest and ethical manner. It can be done and has been done by many of the famous politiicians in our history and one can admire them for their vocal orations and their ability to drive their points across and yet still maintain the dignity of their opponent. This she did not do. It saddens me and I have taken her off my list of people I admire and respect. I have also taken John McCain off that list also. He knew what was going to be said and allowed it to happen. All credibility has been lost. The sad part of this is that everybody kept saying that Obama is not very strong as he was not doing the same thing. What a sad state of affairs – that people running for office have to sink to such low levels in order to prove to their voters they are up to the job of being President. And, sadly, he is now hitting back and now it is becoming a mud-slinging match. We should be insisting on both sides rising up to the occasion and showing their finer traits – not lowering themselves and displaying all their warts. Sarah Palin is exactly what John McCain needed and got but you know the saying “Be careful what you wish for – you may just get it!” She has not won me over, in fact, she scares me. I am very concerned that John McCain has become blinded with his desire to win the election that he has lost something very precious along the way – his integrity. His statement “I would rather lose an election than lose a war” should be changed to “I would rather lose my integrity than lose the election” It is all so transparent – just who does he think he is fooling – well, actually he is fooling a lot of people, more’s the pity!

Posted by: mo | September 12, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm

This country is gradually becoming a dictatorship, first by Bush/Cheney, and if we’re not careful by McCain/Palin. The abuse of power demonstrated by these individuals is going unnoticed by many, but our basic freedoms are slowly being taken away.

Posted by: David | September 12, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm

I always find it odd that men can criticize other men freely, but women cannot criticize other women without being called names like jealous, or lesbian, or hags, to name a few. This name calling shows me that some men and women are very backward in women’s equality issues. How are such people fit to judge a suitable candidate? As a pretty white woman between 40 and 55 (same as Palin)I consider Palin unfit to be VP or President, based on research my husband and I have carefully done and continue to do–on ALL CANDIDATES, as any responsible voter should do. I do not vote strictly democratic, but it must be someone extremely special to get me to vote another party. McCain and Palin do not qualify in my considered opinion for all the various reasons some very intelligent women have already written on this blog. I REALLY want a woman as VP or President, but she must be very qualified, experienced and large minded. It is scary that Palin thinks being “hard wired” qualifies her in either position and it insults people who have worked hard to educate themselves in foreign relations, domestic governmental functions and just plain know how to respect other people in all countries, especially our own. If she is Pro-life, what is she doing shoving the care of her very needy 5 month old baby off on someone else to pursue her career? This is not just a healthy baby how ever she raised her other children. It is a special needs child. If she is Pro-life, why is she aligning herself with a party which wants to ignore science and why is she allowing big business to run rampant over a beautiful environment. Pro-lifers can’t draw the line at birthing babies. They need to be in it for the whole commitment. This baby will likely not live a full life. She needs to be with Trig as much as possible, putting–yes–putting her career on hold for the sake of a baby SHE BROUGHT INTO THIS WORLD. Maybe during the course of stepping back and being a real mother, she will become a wiser person, a person she is not now. Somehow Hillary raised a child who has self-respect and self-control. Palin has not shown the U.S. this in her own daughter. She is not a shining example of a mother. She is not someone I want to point out to any little girl as a good model, who has an important job as Governor, yet involves herself in micromanaging, sticking her nose into personal affairs, firing librarians. Leaders know how to delegate to capable people. They don’t disguise meddling as “being hands on.” She will not have my vote, I have heard enough scandal and enough from her own lips to know she is not who we want in our history books. We need the most capable candidates ready to start fixing the mess of the last almost 8 years. We need a leader who is not tied to the upper class and needs of their rich buddies and corporations, but one who realizes these rich entities will someday not exist (they are disappearing now with HUGE severance packages–you know to whom I refer). The Fannie Mae’s, Freddy Mac’s and others are now going to be financed by the middle class. The first candidate who suggests they will try these CEO’s for criminal acts will have my attention. BTW, most of these posts show a ton of class. I like that in a candidate, she does not have it. French tip fingernails, expensive clothes and hairdos do not a classy person make. Looks like if we can’t have Hillary, we will have a very classy first lady in Michele Obama. Not crazy about a black candidate at this time (only because if he doesn’t completey fix Bush’s mess people will blame his color) or a woman candidate (same reason) but we’ve got to back the Democratic party. It is the only party who looks after you if you earn under $250,000/year or so. More programs and higher taxes? The very wealthy will be called on to pay more of their share.

Posted by: Fairlady | September 13, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am

Once again nothing but media hype and vapid noise distracting us all from the issues, the facts and data we need to make an intelligent decision on the right team to lead our country through these troubled waters.

Posted by: Mary | September 13, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am

To reiterate one more thing:
If women cannot critique or criticize a FEmale candidate like men critique or criticize a MALE candidate, then the people who criticize us and call us ugly names for doing so are the ones who are not ready for a female leader.

Posted by: Fairlady | September 13, 2008, 1:06 am 1:06 am

It is absolutely stupid to pick Palin as the VP. No need to argue. American who choose McCain/ Palin they all are racist. If they take a look back deep down to their heart, they will all realize that it’s their ego who vote for McCain/Palin, not their heart and mind.

Posted by: NonBlockLady | September 13, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am

Sarah Palin as Vice President? Her qualifications and experience and beliefs are what it’s all about:
Become mayor; have as many kids as you can in a few years but take time out to shoot a whole lot of cute animals from a plane with a high powered shotgun and then go home; bake cookies and while they are baking decide you are opposed to abortion under any circumstances. So up to this point she’s conflicted *?* kill an innocent animal but don’t get bloody….make sure that the government decides that every woman must give birth to the baby no matter what the circumstances surrounding the pregnancy.
And as for her lessons given by McCain in a few short weeks on how to be Vice Prez. It reminds me of Buffalo Bob with Howdy Doody funnelling every word and philosphy no matter how archaic! It’s a scarey pick for VP! Say it isn’t so: we go from a Dude you want to go to happy hour with to a Hockey Mom? I’ll even bet she brings the orange pieces laced with fertility drugs and gives the kiddies at the end of each game a brand new shiny Howitzer! Don’t let me be singing on Nov. 4 “It’s Howdy Time!

Posted by: Clarabell in VA | September 13, 2008, 1:18 am 1:18 am

This is the scaries development in this whole campaign. Is it the Brady Bunch everyone wants to have as a reality show?

Posted by: Eva | September 13, 2008, 1:20 am 1:20 am

Well, as a 59 yr old white woman, I’m voting for McCain/Palin. Talk about a loss cannon, what is Biden? He’s been in the Senate for 35 yrs & now he’s going to show OBAMA what needs to be done to change the world. Give me a break. You feminist can just keep crying & complaining about a strong woman who’s showing OBAMA how to campaign. If OBAMA wins, he will have the liberal media to thank since their not asking him any hard questions about his past in any area. They Don’t Want to Know, it might cause people to question his honesty. He & Michelle sat in that church for all those years & didn’t have any idea of Rev. Wright’s views. Yeah right & I have a bridge to sell you!!! Go Sarah.

Posted by: rednan152 | September 13, 2008, 1:23 am 1:23 am

Well, as a 59 yr old white woman, I’m voting for McCain/Palin. Talk about a loss cannon, what is Biden? He’s been in the Senate for 35 yrs & now he’s going to show OBAMA what needs to be done to change the world. Give me a break. You feminist can just keep crying & complaining about a strong woman who’s showing OBAMA how to campaign. If OBAMA wins, he will have the liberal media to thank since their not asking him any hard questions about his past in any area. They Don’t Want to Know, it might cause people to question his honesty. He & Michelle sat in that church for all those years & didn’t have any idea of Rev. Wright’s views. Yeah right & I have a bridge to sell you!!! Go Sarah.
Posted by: rednan152 | Sep 13, 2008 1:23:33 AM
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So NOW you’re a 59 yr old woman. I have read your crap posted as pretty much every woman from every age bracket.
Obviously you are another republican Drag Queen, which DOES NOT qualify you as a WOMAN. Loser

Posted by: A REAL woMAN | September 13, 2008, 2:17 am 2:17 am

From a liberal democrat congressman on the floor of the U.S. House of Representatives… (I paraphrase) Jesus Christ, like Senator Obama, was a community organizer… Pontius Pilot was a governor! If this ridiculous statement alone does not totally underscore the incredulous “rock star” fan fair that the elite liberal media and other “mindless” liberals have associated with Sen. Obama… as well as the abhorrent abuse perpetrated on Gov. Palin, I don’t know what does! It is the right of every American to have an opinion, and so those of you who don’t agree with Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin… that is fine… don’t vote for them. But conversely, there are those of us who don’t agree with Sen. Obama or Sen. Biden… and we won’t vote for them, including me! What I find amazing is the absolute vicious vitriol that is expounded by the left when they feel threatened or when they don’t agree with someone else’s opinion. Case and point, “The Daily KOS” website! The statement by this congressman on the House floor is just the tip of the iceberg. From the moment that Gov. Palin was selected as Sen. McCain’s running mate, the vile comments made about her and her family by the left should make anyone associated with the Democrat Party or liberal ideology totally ashamed. You may not agree with Gov. Palin beliefs or opinions, but to attack this wonderful mother and woman is simply disgusting. I simply cannot believe just how hateful the people of our nation have become… including many of the writers to this blog. There was a time when decency was the foundation of America… I believe it is lost! When I was growing up back in the 50’s, my dad taught me that a woman was God’s greatest creation… that she was the giver of life… the softer gentler one… the one that you could always count on for comfort when the going got tough… and most of all he said, always treat a woman with respect and the dignity no matter what. You see… my mother and father were from the “Greatest Generation”… those that grew up during the Great Depression and saved the world from tyranny during WWII… they believed in the importance of treating people with respect. To attack Gov. Palin, a woman… a mother… a governor, this way is a sad testimony to where we are headed as a nation! And by the way, here’s a “News Flash” for you liberal minded people, Sen. Obama is not some “anointed chosen one” to save it! Moreover, and I hope this doesn’t burst your idealist bubble too badly, even though I believe that Sen. Obama is a decent and intelligent person, he is not Jesus Christ. I dare say that, 2000 years from now, if the human race does survive, anyone will know who Sen. Obama was or what he did! So, on Nov. 4th I will vote for the two people that I think most represent those values and ideals that I believe in, and whose leadership I think will be best for our country. I suggest you do the same!

Posted by: Don | September 13, 2008, 3:51 am 3:51 am

McCain’s campaign should be over, done, cooked, imploded because:
-he was celebrating his birthday with a cake while New Orleans was drowning
-he was in a Party that has been a governing disaster for the past 8 years
-he had fellow Senators of his Party publicly worried about his temper and temperament to be POTUS.
-he violated campaign rules about flying in private aircraft owned by his wife at n/c to his campaign
-he let Cindy show up for his nominating convention,wearing $330,000 worth of jewels and clothes
-he dumped his 1st wife for a 24 year old heiress to a beer fortune, committing adultery in the process.
-he’s surrounded himself with a lobbyist operation of 150 people who manage his campaign.
-a lobbyist got him to intercede with the FCC on broadcasting licensing with a potential sex angle involved.
-he’s 72 years old with a medical history of numerous occurrences of cancer.
-he erroneously fingered Iraq for the 9/11 attack.
-he used his office to allow his wife to carry narcotics for her consumption on a diplomatic passport and his influence as a senator to keep her out of jail.
-he was involved in the Keating Five scandal where he traded campaign favors for political influence
-he picked a running mate who lacks the knowledge to be president
-he couldn’t remember what borders Afghanistan.
-he confused Iraq with Iran, shia with sunni
-he involved himself in a regional conflict on Russia’s border with potential for WW III
-he called his wife a trollop and c++t in public, laughed when Hillary was called a bitch, made a joke about rape and another about Chelsea when she was a girl
-he continues to lie about Palin’s accomplishments, particularly on earmarks and the bridge to nowhere.
-he stated that Joe Biden probably knew more about energy than any other person in the US.
-he graduated at the fifth to last in his class of 899 and crashed 5 jets

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 13, 2008, 4:24 am 4:24 am

Did it ever occur to anyone why McCain chose Palin?
I am an educated woman, and I can tell you, his choice was not for the best interests of this country. When Obama won the ticket, the GOP saw an opportunity (base on the HRC fan base) to capitalize on the situation and bring a woman on the ticket to ‘win’ the women votes. Had Obama chose Clinton as his VP, McCain would never have chosen Palin for his running mate.
If McCain truely wanted to ‘reform’ Washington, he would have chose someone with true experience and not someone who has a vagina that can help him win an election (not being sexist here, just pointing out a fact – he would not have chose Palin had Clinton been involved on the ticket). She has many opposite views than McCain ie stem cell research, The right to chose in the case of incest or rape – McCain and Palin aren’t even on the same PAGE!!!
Again, do you honestly think he has the best interests in the country as a primary agenda by choosing someone to win him votes?
if McCain/Palin win, prepare for WWIII

Posted by: Leslie | September 13, 2008, 4:55 am 4:55 am

In rebuttal to ‘Leslie’ and her reference to Sen. McCain choosing a “vagina” rather than someone with true experience, all I can say is… wherever you received your education (per your preface that you are an educated woman), you might want to consider asking that institution for a refund! That said, it’s no wonder you believe that a McCain/Palin victory would result in WWIII… how sadly ill informed you are and how poor your judgment is to assess a situation. It’s a shame that there wasn’t some way to revoke voter registrations for voters with such an exorbitantly high level of ignorance. Not an insult, just a statement of fact.

Posted by: Don | September 13, 2008, 6:53 am 6:53 am

I really thought that Bush would be enough, but evidently there are many more of you that have your heads so far up your own asses that you are willing to entertain the thought of voting for the GOP.
That being said, Obama made a huge error in not choosing Hillary. Biden is a great man, don’t get me wrong, but Obama needed to add to his resume. And didn’t.
The McCain camp saw this and capitalized on it. Palin is nothing more than an empty shell of a person in a nice suit loaded with tons of overzealous religious beliefs. Which she wants YOUR legal system to reflect. Regardless of what you may believe.
McCain may have war experience over Obama, but DO YOU REALLY WANT MORE WAR?? REALLY? Do you want your children to be fighting this war and getting blown to pieces 20 years from now. If the answer is yes, then you deserve what you get. If the answer is no, then continue to speak out so others hear you.
At this point it almost appears that both parties have mucked this up so badly that what Americans really need is a third party, who are somewhat bullshit free.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008, 8:15 am 8:15 am

I would like everyone to read what Sarah Palin stands for “straight from the horss mouth” as you would say:
“Our scientist feel confident that it would be unwarranted to list Cook Inlet belugas now,” Gov. Palin said. “Seven years ago, NMFS determined that these whales weren’t endangered, and since then, we’ve actually seen the beginnings of an increase in their population. We are all doing everything we can to help protect these important marine mammals.”
Please visit all info site to see the stances on all candidates before you decide to vote on them because of their gender…….I am a women and it disgraces me that other women would be ignorant enough to vote on a candiate just because of her gender!
No Party Affiliation.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008, 8:59 am 8:59 am

Enough!! Palin already confirmed that she would overturn Roe Vs Wade. WAKE UP PEOPLE !!! This is not a candidate that who supports a Women’s rights nor the rights of a common working Americans. WAKE UP!!

Posted by: Mara M | September 13, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am

I’m sick of hearing that Gov. Palin is too inexperienced to be a “heartbeat away from the presidency”. Obama is just as, or even more, inexperienced, and, if elected, he will not be “a heartbeat away”; his will be the heartbeat.

Posted by: Denise in PA | September 13, 2008, 10:25 am 10:25 am

What a couple of idiots.. Get a life!!!!

Posted by: Rhonda | September 13, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am

That blog is sour grapes turned rotten. They should give it up before they make even bigger fools of yourselves. It sounds a lot like “Code Pink” and the rest of those perverted, pseudointellectual idiots.

Posted by: rplat | September 13, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am

I truly believe that the selection of Sarah Palin is a “political gimmick”. McCain is riding her skirt to propel him into the White House. Once he is in there, Sarah can resign from being Vice President and happily go back to Alaska giving McCain the opportunity to pick his first choice Leibermann. This is so scary. I love this country and I hope that people can look beyond their predjudice and make the smart and responsible choice for the next president of this great country, Obama.
God help us all

Posted by: Cy | September 13, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am

I have watched this whole election unfold. I must say I’m not comfortable with Mccain’s choice either. There seems to have been an assumption that she’d do well as a VP and that women would flock to her since she made a remark that Obama is regreting for not having chosen Hillary. Wake up people, this is not about who’s liked the most or most popular. We got hit 7 yrs. ago and you cannot risk again. Obama has been preparing for all his life and is well versed and well read. You can see he’s knows what he’s talking about and his choice of Biden was well thought through by many advisors.Biden has over 30 yrs.of foreign experince under his belt, Hillary respects that decision and she wishes well for our country. Put color and gender selfish issues aside and fight for your children’s future. If these two men are not the right ones, you can throw them out in 4 yrs. give Palin a little time, get to know her before you make such a hasty decision.This is not to discred her as a nice person or as agood example of a mother.

Posted by: ruth | September 13, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am

Where to even start…wouldn’t it be nice if we could agree to disagree-there is no absolute “right” way of running this country.We can not possibly represent the melting pot with 2 parties. This country is not just black and white ,Christian or other,poor and wealthy.
Reading all these posts I can see how angry and ugly Republican and Democrats get with each other-that won’t get this country fixed!
One of my strongest opinions however is that religious belief should not be how the country is run. Religion for thousands of years in all nations has caused wars and oppression. Why? do you really think that is what God wants. I think that one’s religious practices should be personal-not political. To tell another to live according to your religions teachings-is implying theirs is not the right way. Passing judgement on another(according to Christs teachings) is not for us to decide-but God. So let’s focus on things we can make change.
I will make my vote Obamma/Bidden because they most closely represent my views on issues. Experience level honestly does not bother me… Do you think they had a ton of experience when our founding fathers started the United States- no! mistakes are the only way to make improvements.

Posted by: japaneseIrishScottishCherokeeGirl! | September 13, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm

Posted by: Denise in PA | Sep 13, 2008 10:25:41 AM
I’m sick of hearing that Gov. Palin is too inexperienced to be a “heartbeat away from the presidency”. Obama is just as, or even more, inexperienced, and, if elected, he will not be “a heartbeat away”; his will be the heartbeat.
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I rarely agree with a McCain/Palin supporter, but I have to agree with Denise on this…whether or not Gov. Palin has enough “experience” to be Commander-in-Chief isn’t a relevant question.
Who knows? Maybe Gov. Palin would rise to the occasion, if – God forbid – McCain should not survive his first term, and she were to take over the reins of government.
Maybe we can look at the question of “experience” from a different angle.
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Does anything in Governor Palin’s past suggest that she WOULD rise to the occasion?
Now, I know how to ski – downhill and cross-country in the winter snow.
I have never water-skied.
Should I feel confident that I can water ski, based on the fact that I know how to down-hill ski?
Hmmmm….
I know how to play ping-pong, a game with a paddle, a ball, and a net.
Does that mean I will be a good tennis player?
My child can swim the dog-paddle.
Does that mean that my child should enter the 200 m butterfly in the Olympics?
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Here’s another way to look at Gov. Palin , and the question of experience.
I speak English pretty well. Does that fact that I can speak English, mean that I would be good at speaking Mandarin Chinese – if only I bothered to try?
Again, I can add, subtract, divide, and multiply numbers with the best of them. I’m middle-aged, do you think I should consider switching careers and try to get a degree in advanced Physics?
I’ve never shown any interest at all in foreign affairs, international finance, the complicated interplay between the various branches of government at the federal level. I don’t even know what it is the VP does., I’m hard-pressed to name the capital of Belgium, let alone the capital of Saudi Arabia. What exactly is the Bush Doctrine, again? And the IMF, the World Bank. I know that NATO – well – those are the good guys. But what are the conditions of memberhsip? Why aren’t GEORGIA & the UKRAINE already members of NATO? Jeez, they have that big bully Putin breatthing down their necks….I know I said Putin invaded Georgia UNPROVOKED…and that really isn’t the case…GEORGIA DID PROVOKE RUSSIA, no doubt about that, but still, PUTIN is just such a big bully – I want to pop him one. So, yeah go to war with RUSSIA!
And while we’re at it, let’s take on that meanie Ahmadini the Djini – the “first Dude” of Iran. I know I could take him out mano-a-mano. He’s just a wimp – I skin moose with my bare hands…

Posted by: An Independent Thinker | September 13, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm

Global warming is real. Human overpopulation is the primary cause. Palin’s decision to have a fifth child in her mid forties is indicative of an ego bigger than her brain. We have had enough of that with the Current Occupant.

Posted by: Nancy | September 13, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm

Why are they reporting only one side of the story? We are Women for Palin, http://www.womenforpalin.net, and we have Women for Palin parties going this weekend and about to launch several states, totally through grassroots networking. Why don’t they tell the whole stoy?
http://www.womenforpalin.net

Posted by: Mary | September 13, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm

Don, for myriad examples of absolute vicious vitriol expounded by the right, please see Rush Limbaugh and Bill O’Reilly. But I thank you for posting the one and only informed, intelligent, rational, and cool-headed pro-Palin comment in this entire chain. Thank you for refraining from name-calling and hateful and irrelevant references to someone’s purported race and sexual orientation in justifying your political stance. You are right: we are all entitled to our opinion, and fortunately in this great country we all have a broad constitutional right to express our political opinion, certainly in the context of a blog. I suggest that those who support McCain/Palin or are against Obama/Biden express themselves in a similar blog and rather than criticize those with opposing views for doing so. Live and let live.

Posted by: tkb | September 13, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm

Without Palin, McCain has nothing, not even the benefit of his integrity. Once the Palin-hype dies down and the public begins to see her for what she truly is, support for McC/P will dwindle. The far right wants to keep everyone in the dark ages – teaching non-science/nonsense creationism, global warming has no man-made component, abstinence-only sex ed. Ignorance must truly be bliss for McC/P supporters. Thankfully, they are the true minority.

Posted by: redorb | September 13, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm

I could care less… woman or no woman on the ticket. The VP ought to, at minimum, know what the job entails, know what the running mate on the ticket stands for and be able to express that policy using the English language above the average 3rd-grade level, and if shipping her son off to war so PROUDLY have some understanding about why we went to war in Iraq, what is happening in the region to date, and what policies have guided our path since. Bush, McCain, Palin- who cares? I think the ticket asserting they are the new messiah and saviors of the world (all in God’s name) is this trinity of ignorance… dumb, dumber, and -wait for it– DUMBEST! IN THAT ORDER!!! Hearing voices and attributing behavior to those voices used to be a sign of mental illness- not the new gold standard qualification for VP.
WHITE, GUN OWNER, CHRISTIAN, REPUBLICAN, WOMAN, MOTHER AND WIFE—- HAND ON THE BIBLE, GUN OVER MY SHOULDER, VOTING FOR OBAMA/BIDEN!!!!!!

Posted by: Nik | September 13, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm

Nominating Palin as his VP candidate is one of the most insulting move by McCain for all women and to the candidate herself and to add insult to injury he is running around telling all of us ‘dummies’ how qualified she is! For ANYONE who thinks that Palin is anything like Hillary Clinton, is an insult for Hillary Clinton and all women, while I don’t agree with Hillary Clinton or some of her policies, at least I know who she is and she has done a lot for womens rights. I will not allow this women to come in without any hard work and destroy what many great women like, Clinton, Pelosi, and Rice have worked so hard accomplish. With this choice, McCain just lost my vote!

Posted by: amy | September 13, 2008, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm

And for the experience argument… who are you kidding? Obama has been involved in politics, in community organizations, in faith-based projects, in the law nearly his whole adult life. Palin woke up one day, and over a moose burger thought- golly, I’ve had a few kids, done a little hunting, been a beauty queen, didn’t quite meet that goal of being a journalist and sportscaster.. what the hell- I’ll try being a mayor, no governor, oh OKAY– sure, VP sounds fun…. what do I have to do? “GULP.”
Uhhhh — I’ll take that darn community organizing, Harvard constitutional law professor, the attorney, who seems dedicated to helping every day folks get back on their feet– you know the guy who actually has some intelligence… the one who can walk AND talk at the same time, and has a proven record of putting policy into action on the street, that guy who GETS IT. — So Sarah, I guess I can call her Sarah, I’ll just say “thanks, but no thanks” to YOUR bridge to nowhere. For being such a pitbull, Sarah, as you call yourself, you spend an amazing amount of time asking the Republicans to dry your tears, and crying about having your feelings hurt. My granddaughter stands taller in the face of scrutiny than this VP wanna-be. Oh- did I mention, she’s only 8?! Maybe SHE should run for office….

Posted by: Moose what | September 13, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm

It’s not just that she is against what most women. She is totally unqualified to become CEO of a large company much less a heartbeat away from becoming the leader of this great country. McCain has shown us he exhibits the same poor judgment we have come to expect from Bush. Please people – this is not a popularity vote on American Idol. This is a serious choice for our future.
52 YR OLD WHITE WOMAN/FORMER MILITARY
OBAMA/BIDEN 08

Posted by: paula | September 13, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

I am truly angry, for the very first time in my 65 years, at the choice a presidential candidate has made for his running mate….and the person who, if John McCain wins this coming election, will be the person who will succeed him as leader of this nation if anything happens to him. Sarah Palin is a “shill”,brought onboard this ticket to (1) supposedly attract female voters; (2) give some spark and beauty to the Republican campaign; and (3) cater to the conservative element of the Republican Party, many of whom neither trust nor even like McCain. And all of these reasons are ABSOLUTELY the wrong reasons for nominating her for the vice-presidential slot. It is dangerous politics at a time when our country desperately needs thoughtful direction from our leaders.
I know everyone talks about Palin’s lack of experience and to be honest, that is not the issue that scares me. Afterall, how much experience did Harry Truman have in a national leadership role before he became president? What does worry me is where she stands on some major issues that effects not only women, but our country in general. That she endorses drilling for more oil in the Alaska wilderness IS NOT A SOLUTION to our dependence on foreign oil and it will forever change the landscape and potentially the wildlife of one of our last great wildernesses. And it will profit those same oil companies that have reaped huge amounts of money from the oil crisis already! That she whole-heartedly backs the Bush administration’s stance on Iraq is troubling. And I recently heard someone actually say that she does understand foreign affairs because she has lived in Alaska and that is close to Russia! Outrageous!
I have yet to hear any substantial plan from her or McCain for dealing with national health care, with the hemorraging of American jobs to foreign countries, with the ever-growing problem of our struggling educational system…and the list goes on and on!
I don’t want to see a “pretty face in those ever-so-cute glasses” leading us in the same direction we’ve been heading for the past 8 years. I want intelligent, well-designed solutions to the problems that face my America, a country I have always loved and wanted other countries and people to admire for what we stood for.
Please get the word out…it is so critical that anyone who at least wants to give real change a chance gets out and votes for Senators Obama and Biden this coming November. I am proud to join all the other women who have contributed to this blog to say that Sarah Palin and all that she does or does not stand for is NOT FOR ME!

Posted by: SLHB | September 13, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm

I am so glad to see so many women with some common sense.
To the Hilary/voting for Palin women
It is on Video that Paline blasted Hiliary in the primaries, she stated that Hiliary was a whiner and bad example for the woman movement. I am sure that had an affect on Hiliary not winning the primaries. Chales Moore, republican. said abut Hiliary Clinton she go get her apron strings is she could take the heat. McCain used the pig with lipstick twice on Hiliary. The Palin republican crew bashed Hiliary in the primaires and took probably the few votes she needed to win. And now you are going to reward Palin and McCain with your vote and have Palin the first Woman president instead of Hilary? What kind of loyalty is that? And you are not supporting Hilary now that is campaigning for Obama, clearly saying she think he is a better choice then the McCain/Palin? You are making a mockry of your own statement. And setting women back a lot.
I am an independent white profesional single mom. I raised my children all by myself with no help from family. And It has been rough. It terrifies me that the number of white women who openly state that they don’t care about the issues(equal pay for women, support for school education, lower taxes for the middle class as opposed to the wealthy, not jumping into more wars at a hrop of a hat when we are already weak from the Iraq war, etc) but just want to show how vindictive they can be when they don’t get their way. Isn’t this an image that the women’s momvement tried to correct 30 years ago. Are you really going to take us back there?
Palin may be a strong woman but if she is why doesn’t she get in the arean with the good ole boys now and face them head on? Instead of running and hiding from the tough reporters questions? Hilary sure has face a lot of tough questions, why shouldn’t Palin have to do the same. Charles Gibson was a walk in the park to what all other candidates have had to face(both men and women).
I am truly fightened for my dauters’ future and yours. Please put your emotions aside and think about what your actions are saying to the world about women.
To the women who are blogging here we need to go to ralleys and let out view be heard . Let this country know that not all women favor Palin. We need to send emails to all the networks news and talk shows letting themn know there is a large number of women who do not agree with the Palin choice. We need to let our voices be heard

Posted by: Linsa | September 13, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm

Add me to the list of the over 50 white women who do not want to see Sara Palin become the next VP. We need more than a cheerleader, more than a pageant contestant, and more than a person who will hold back women’s rights. Being a fiesty mom does not a VP make. Thanks for hosting this blog.

Posted by: Sue | September 13, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm

These “women against Sarah Palin” show that liberal women are not for women per se. After all these years of running on one issue, Roe v. Wade, finally here’s a woman who can run on more than that one issue. If women in the party support Palin, Democrat men have lost their ticket to ride into Washington on the Row v. Wade express and that’s what’s been happening. You would think the Democrats would have more women in ther ranks than the Republicans do but they don’t and they never did. We are finally waking up to the fact that Democrats never had our best interests at heart…just their own power.

Posted by: dropdeadgeorgeous | September 13, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm

McCain/palin Ticket is a ticket for Idiots,uneducated and stupid, ready to be fooled by GOP again.
Congrats, idiots, follow McWar to increase his wealth and Alaska’s boarders.

Posted by: Linda,Fl | September 13, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm

I have never known any candidate to choose a running mate that came in with so many bones rattling in the closet. McCain’s pick was worse than just sexist, once again, as when he cheated on his first wife, who was a model, to marry the Rodeo Queen beer baroness, he was thinking with his little head (the one that is confined behind his zipper).
Those who are swept up with the ex-beauty contestant, Peggy Hill (Hank’s wife, and Bobby’s mother) look-alike, are not looking at the fact that Elizabeth Dole, or Kay Bailey Hutchinson, for two, would have made better running mates if a women was needed. When Palin’s lustre wear off, and when women’s voice is heard that Palin’s extreme views are opposed to the rights that they have fought to attain, it will be too late for the Republicans to replace her as she damages their ticket. In the event that more negative press comes from the courts in Alaska involving her “TrooperGate” scandal, or after a decision is made in about mid-October, the Republican McCain will be washed out. He will be responsible for the sinking of his own ass. McCain is a guy who does not know which direction his campaign in traveling. At first glance, one would think that Palin is at the top of the ticket, and he is the running mate. She has been secured from the media because she doesn’t know her ass from a hole in the ground…which is the actual truth. The videos on MySpace of her speaking prior to VP selection, and afterwards do not lie.

Posted by: cetewayo | September 13, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm

I am a 73 year-old American woman, who feels that the selection of Sarah Palin as a vice presidential candidate was an insult to every woman in this country, young and old. Her willingness to be used as a pawn by “the good old boys” certainly does not represent what women have worked and fought to achieve in this country. Being mayor of a town with a population no larger than some high schools, and governor for one and a half years, does not qualify her to hold this nation’s second highest office or be a heartbeat away from the presidency. As for her speech at the convention, all she did was use the skills she learned in obtaining her communications degree to recite the words and non/half-truths written by a Bush speechwriter. Most communications graduates (including my son) could do as well. It is, without a doubt, the most irresponsible decision ever made by a man who claims to love his country. Perhaps having an unqualified beauty queen on his arm as he travels around the country campaigning is more to his liking and less intimidating than having a more qualified candidate. Apparently he looked for the same qualifications for VP as he did in selecting his two wives – all three are beauty queens.
Shirley T
Seattle, WA

Posted by: shirley T | September 13, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm

Bottom line: Hillary Clinton rode her husband’s coattails — while Sarah Palin made it on her own!

Posted by: Laura M | September 13, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm

For LarryMan, Molly & Southern Lady.
1st LarryMan:Keep in mind that Fascism goes with conservatism.So calling Hillary “Hitlary” tells me you are weak in understanding political leftism.You need to get current with the political environment.So…in your ignorance, it is easy to understand why you are for the likes of Palin (That’s your fascist).
Molly:
If Palin is such a kick ass for women’s rights, why is she against a woman’s right to choose for her own body ? Or stem cell research that could help women with many deseases?
Southern Lady
I think you and most conservatives confuse LOVE for one’s country with PRIDE. I truly love my country, but I am not always proud of it. The last 8 years I have been anything but proud of how this administration has handled foreign policy, oil and energy, the economy, Iraq and Afganistan US infrastructure, stem cell research,torture,over stepping homeland security, Haliburtan preferences, abortoin rights, the complete idiocy of Creationism giving tax breaks to the very rich.Is this a country you can call “being proud “of ?

Posted by: Doug T. | September 13, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm

Bottom Line: True feminists aren’t threatened by Sarah Palin!

Posted by: laura M | September 13, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm

Add me to the list of over 70 white women who will not vote for McCain/Palin.
PLEASE, FORWARD TO ME THE EMAIL ADDRESS WHERE MY DAUGHTERS, GRANDAUGHTERS & I CAN JOIN THIS MOVEMENT!

Posted by: Hattie Fallert | September 13, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm

Here are some pics of Sarah’s kid.
Guns, booze, and girl on girl tongue action.
http://mojo.channel955.com/cc-common/gallery/display.html?album_id=135887

Posted by: Bill | September 13, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm

I am appalled by McCain’s selection of Palin. But let’s focus on McCain. His reason for choosing Palin is clear. She is a decoy to divert attention away from McCain’s miserable record on women’s rights.
McCain opposes legislation on equal pay, making it harder for women to sue over pay discrimination. (The Fair Pay “Lily Ledbetter” bill.) McCain voted against funding to fight domestic violence. McCain voted against requiring health insurers to cover birth control. He opposes women’s right to reproductive choice.
Women, especially, need to understand that McCain is an opportunist and women are being played.

Posted by: Helene | September 13, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm

In my view, the educated, informed women are the Obama voters, the Palin voters … just need to do more research. I’m deeply offended by the Palin choice and as a former Hillary supporter, Palin secured my vote for Obama. The McCain ticket is the single biggest threat to women’s rights in recent history, and it sickens me that a woman is behind it.
OBAMA BIDEN 08!

Posted by: Megan | September 13, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm

The reason demoncrat don’r like Sarah is because she has not done” like:
she has not had six kids by six different men who failed to marry her.
she has not lived on food stamps in a big city government project.
she has not lived in a big city run by a queer mayor.
she just doesn’t meld with the majority of demoncrats from big cities.

Posted by: Texas Troublemaker | September 13, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm

The reason demoncrats don’t like Sarah is because she has not done” like:
she has not had six kids by six different men who failed to marry her.
she has not lived on food stamps in a big city government project.
she has not lived in a big city run by a queer mayor.
she just doesn’t meld with the majority of demoncrats from big cities.

Posted by: Texas Troublemaker | September 13, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm

why do all of you leftist think that the whole country believes what you do. Why is it such a threat to your selfworth, if a woman without all your views, is possibly going to be elected. I have never seen such hatred and vicious attacks by people who claim to be “the most compasionate, free thinking, and clear minded” people in the world. Yeah, I am talking about you liberals who like to tout your desires to help the less fortunate or oppressed. Yet, when someone who does not exactly fit your mold (and believe me it is not the mold of America) becomes part of the american discussion, you liberals turn into the most closed minded, hateful, bigots in the world. At some point you need to realize that your beliefs are not the beliefs of the majority, and your dipicable attacks and lies, only show the hipocricy which is your life.
thank you and have a nice day.

Posted by: jonathan | September 13, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm

Palin is a disastrous choice of a VP pick. McCain is not ready to be president because now you how McCain will make executive decisions as president:
1. Palin not vetted. He will not do his homework about very important matters in the WH. He met with her only once. And now she’s his running mate? He’s OK with that?
2. Country First? No – McCain first at any cost. How can he possibly care about Americans?
3. He will lie to us. He lied to us about the required qualifications of the VP – must be ready on day one to step in to be president. (That’s laughable after hearing her schoolgirl scripted responses for Gibson.)
4. He will make huge gambles that will most certainly affect our security. This was a big campaign and is turning into a big fiasco.
God help us all if Americans elect McCain.

Posted by: FMA in Mass | September 13, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm

We left the party because we are the “bitter old white people clinging to our guns and God”. We left the party in June after the violation of
three million voters in Florida and Michigan. Where were the writers of this site? Where was all the indignation over the silencing of three million American votes?
Where was their outrage?
Or are these women, like so many others, expecting me, after having my vote violated, to thank my violaters, by voting for their party?
Where was my party when WE needed it? Where were these ladies? Or don’t they think the violation of three millions voters and the sexist treatment of Hillary has anything to do with them?
We are not voting for John McCain merely because of Sarah Palin, whom we do like and find very refreshing, even if we do not agree with her on many issues. We left the party in June after the violation of three million voters in Florida and Michigan, which we fought for for several months. Personally, I would have preferred Lieberman or Tom Ridge. But we have liked John McCain since 2000, when he stood on his integrity during the abysmal Republican primary against GWB; we respect McCain for his service to our country and trust him and his integrity. We are voting country over party. His acceptance speech made me weep. It reminded me of the great hope of America.
MCCAIN 08
HILLARY 2012

Posted by: Sandy Diana | September 13, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm

McCain and Palin have told over and over lie after lie after lie. Don’t for one minute think they will stop if they get in office. Palin is ignorant and uncultured, Should she ever serve as president, we will be the laughing stock of the world. China might even pull its money out of its never ending lending program. Oh, yes, expect the draft, and, in consequence, we’ll have the late 60′s and early 70′s all over again.

Posted by: W. Worth | September 13, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm

I’m an independent and am truly concerned that folks will be fooled by this Palin ploy and vote for McCain. But please consider some things before voting.
We are in a HUGE mess as a country in almost EVERY POSSIBLE WAY. Our economy is teetering on the brink of disaster not seen since the great depression,and the war in Iraq is costing us how much a month? Our roads and bridges are falling apart but we can’t afford to fix them. Our health care system is completely broken leaving millions of people without care at all or denied care because of pre-existing conditions. The illegal war in Iraq has discredited us everywhere in the world and we are a lot LESS SAFE than we were on 9/11. We are facing threats from Russia and the nuclear arms race is starting up all over again. What about retirement for the baby boomers? Do you think we can actually afford it? Did you know that America has over 700 military bases around the world? Can we really afford that? Oh, and what about our addiction to oil – do you really think drilling for more is the answer? Then what happens when we run out of oil or when a foreign country decides to cut us off? Don’t you think we should make it a national priority to move to alternative energy? And don’t get me started about global warming.
Come on fellow Americans – these are REAL PROBLEMS but the Republicans who have been at the helm these last 8 years want us to elect more of the same – policies that are very nearly destroying the America we love? Why is that? I just don’t understand it. Do we trust THEM to fix it? Think about what’s at stake and who represents the REAL RISK here.
WAKE UP! THINK!!

Posted by: Concerned Citizen | September 13, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm

I’m a Christian who believes the Bible and teachings of Jesus Christ. Palin is an evangelical Christian and I understand that you Republicans are supposedly Christians.
Yet listen to yourselves. What vitriol and disrespect you spew to anyone who doesn’t see things YOUR way. You actually sound like you’re full of hatred! Are you putting your political party above your faith? What would Jesus say to that? Love your neighbor as yourself. Love God with all your heart, mind, soul and strength.
What we need is more respectful, civilized talk when we disagree. Don’t stoop to the (spiritual) enemy’s methods.

Posted by: Christian for Obama | September 13, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm

it’s funny how all you liberal democrates attack McCain and Palin on the exact issue’s you should actually be asking about obama and biden. Palin has finished multiple term’s as mayor and half a term as Governor. obama in the Illinois state senate never finished a full term and never finished a full term in the U.S. Senate before running for President of the United States. and for your information about community organizers, they take their complaints and suggestion’s the the city councel members who also has a head member make the final decision, hmmmmm, let’s see, is that not the mayor??? if obama is so great a leader (organizer)and person why did he not run for a city councel seat or even
mayor? i’ll tell you why. in the state senate he never created a bill and always voted present instead of voting yes or no even with his own parties bill’s , in the u.s. senate he never
created a bill and and only voted once with a no on the iraq war and the rest of the bill’s that dealt with the nations other interest he voted present. you want to know why he never ran for city councel memeber or mayor. you want to know why he never voted yes or no in the state senate and only once in the U.S., that was so he could not have a record to run on if he voted yes or no that would make him look bad and hurt his chances of running for President. so he voted against the war, so what, he did that so he can gain sympathy from frustrated Americans because he is right on one thing, war is never popular and frustrating. he played all of you who are voting for him. look at the way you democrates are tearing McCain and Palin up and down from their past records but not obama and he does not even have records to question, he played you people like a violin. his actual records of existense is association’s with a terrorist and radical extremist’s full of bitter hatred. you say, well, they have reason’s to be mad. really? disagree with them on issue’s and see how they react to you, obama does not care about you, face the fact’s.McCain/Palin 08

Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 13, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm

I am dismayed over the vicious lies that McCain and Palin continually throw out. Lie now, they’ll lie later. Palin is an ignorant and decidedly uncultured person. On the plus side, if she were ever President, American would finally have to shed its hubris. China would probably pull back all the money they’re lent us. By the way, we find out now that she never went to Iraq – only Kuwait.

Posted by: W. Worth | September 13, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm

I’m certain Joe Biden knows what the Bush Doctrine is, and doesn’t need hours of coaching on foreign policy (and speaking in platitudes). He has spoken with heads of state and didn’t just pick up his first passport two years ago. I’m confident that he could mop the floor with Sarah Palin in any debate. Oh yeah, and he knows how to pronounce “nuclear” too. See ya in back in Wasilla, Sarah, the party’s over.

Posted by: redorb | September 13, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm

As a lifelong feminist, I am pleased that women are enjoying greater influence in the political arena–it is what feminists have worked for and hoped for, for years.
I am pleased that the Republican Party has finally considered a woman seriously as a candidate on the presidential ticket.
With that said, I am deeply concerned about Sarah Palin and her stance on a variety of issues. I become uncomfortable when any political leader suggests that a war is “God’s will.” I think that’s an extremely dangerous and arrogant world view.
I’m also concerned about her stance on global warming. The super storms that we are now experiencing, the hurricanes that are now wracking our coasts and threatening lives are a result of climate change and global warming. Scientists are all saying this, and have been saying this for a long time.
I’m concerned about her stance on abstinence-only education, because it’s clearly not working–and the evidence of this exists within her own family.
I’m concerned about her stance on reproductive health and freedom–anyone who is that virulently anti-choice is also against birth control and other family planning services.
All of these concerns are valid, and should be discussed. What I find particularly appalling is how incredibly polarized we’ve become as a nation–it seems that many of us can no longer debate the issues in a civil and respectful manner, but have to resort to bullying to get their points across. I’ve noticed a lot of that in the negative posts–the negative posters who are name-calling, hurtling insults and the like must really be threatened and scared? They must not believe in their candidate as much as they would like us to believe . . .

Posted by: Kerry | September 13, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm

Can we all focus on the issues such as the economy etc….not female vs. male…black vs. white…The Republican party did this to us last time around..all the smoke..and what do we have when it settles? We had a Bush that doesn’t/didn’t and never will care about us the middle class The middle class is beat down again and again and again and now they’re trying to do it again with a female. Palin is not the person for the job…with or without her baggage..

Posted by: Anna Cornelison | September 13, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm

kerry – your a feminist right, you talk with calm manner’s when i have never known feminist to act calm and civil because of thier anger and hatred toward’s men. now your feminist buddy’s are attacking Gov. Palin with anger and lies, so why don’t you get control of your feminits buddies attitudes and straighten them out before you tell other people how to talk and act without attacking out of anger and lies. the american people with commonsense and the republican’s are not stupid, because we all see the double standard here with Gov. Palin. if she was on the democratic ticket she would not be getting attacked with lies coming from your side. im not attacking you personally, but you need to understand liberal women are the bitter and angry one’s that make calm respectful women as yourself look bad. the feminists cause is over because of Gov. Palin and the left is just mad that she is not a democrat and don’t share her view’s. what did happen to commonsense and respect, the left is using a double standard with her and don’t care how the look anyway because they are just angry and bitter people who like to control and tell people what to do, pelosi is a good example of that fact.

Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 13, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm

Though I am not planning to vote for McCain & Palin I’m not totally against her, however I am fed up with the half truths surrounding everything she does. She was aasked if she has a maid and she said and her kids are expected to help out. But I know for a fact that she had a nanny. I gues she wasn’t asked so she didn’t have to respond to that question. Or maybe she doesn’t have one anymore because she wants to look like she can do it all. Who cares? If I had four or five kids and could afford it I would have one too! Plus when her husband was wokring for the oil company he was on a rotational schedule. One week off and one week on or two weeks off and two weeks on.
Then there are the people who want to believe she’s just one of the girls. I’ve lived in Wasilla 25 years and the only time I EVER saw her in the grocery store was when she was campaining for mayor. For awhile we only had one tiny grocery store. Then for a long time we only had two. Who did her shopping?

Posted by: Alaskan Woman | September 13, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm

Re: the abortion issue: it is demeaning to women to believe that this is our ONLY issue. We also care about national security, the US dependence on foreign oil/energy and the loss of American jobs due to our culture’s obession for cheap goods.
As for abstinence, I ask ALL parents: Why is it up to the school system to teach your children not to have sex before marriage? Why do parents want everyone to parent their children, right down to fundamental, basic issues such as this? And where is the forgiveness if your child does indeed have sex before marriage and does get pregnant? And why is the stigma–for all you “feminists” out there–always on the young lady and her mother, not on the boy and his father and what his father did–or did not teach him?
The self-proclaimed “feminists” of today have an agenda…it is abortion and abortion only. We feminists of the old school believe that ALL women–indeed, ALL people are created equal…not just white, upper-middle-class Northeast or left-coast Ivy League, latte-drinking “prochoice” liberals. If a sister is prolife, as is Laura Ingraham, Sarah Palin, or Kay Bailey Hutchison, she is as worthy of
respect as Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, or Barbara Boxer.
I am shocked and appalled to see such anger and hatred against a woman who has done the work and made it on her own from other women who should know better. But then, until their daughters and granddaughters face opposition, these so-called “feminists” will tear every other woman apart, much like they did to Hillary Clinton, until they need support. Which, of course, they will expect from the same sisters they have hated and violated. Silly rabbits!
McCain 08
Hillary Clinton 2012

Posted by: Sandy Diana | September 13, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm

So, Mr. James “Liberty”…I haven’t seen any evidence of intelligence in Obama other than that he can read a teleprompter…he is actually very stupid sounding when he doesn’t have the script in front of him!

Posted by: Jerry Waddell | September 13, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm

Timmaaa7,
Thank you for writing in your opinion. I have to disagree with your statement that feminists hate men. I’m a feminist, and I certainly don’t hate men at all. My father defines himself as a feminist, and so do many of my male friends. While this space is to short for me to define what I feel feminism is, in short, I feel it’s ensuring that women have the same opportunities as everyone else. While we’ve made progress, I feel that we have a ways to go. For instance, the Fair Pay act, which McCain opposed. Women still make approximately 70 cents to the dollar that every man makes. That is one of the reasons that I can’t in good conscience, vote for McCain.
You mentioned a double standard in your message–I must also respectfully disagree with you on your suggestion that if Palin was on the Democratic ticket we wouldn’t be responding the way that we are. I was a Hillary Clinton supporter, and while I was thrilled to see a woman so close to gaining the nomination, I didn’t supporter her just because of that–it was because she stood for the issues that I care deeply about, and am concerned about with regards to our country’s future.
I was angry at the portrayal of Hillary Clinton by the media–I really felt there was a double standard when it came to the media’s coverage of her. When it comes to the media, it seems that more often than not, their portrayals of women in politics, regardless of whether they are Republicans or Democrats leaves a lot to be desired.
I am a proud, liberal Democrat–just as I’m sure you are a proud Republican. I can agree with you that the political climate is getting more and more devisive. And, there is blame on both sides of the fence for this. I think that we all need to remember that while we may not agree on the issues, whether we are “red” or “blue”, we are all first and foremost Americans–and we should treat each other with respect and civility in our debates. Thanks!

Posted by: Kerry | September 13, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm

Alaskan Woman – does Gov. Palin always have to be seen in the grocery store when your there. did’nt she do good things for the city as mayor, did’nt she do good for alaska and wasilla at the same time, how did she get that high approval rating, did she have to be seen shopping with you to get your approval, give me a break. and thier is a difference between a maid and a nanny, a maid takes care of household duties and a nanny watches and feeds the kids but does not have to clean. so, how do you know if she had a maid or nanny, maybe she was doing her duties as mayor, mother, and wife and was to busy to meet you at the grocery store, you think about that? plus do you spend multiple hours at the store waiting to see her, what about you duties or do you have any? sorry Sara Palin (wife, mother, mayor, gov.)could not fit you into her busy schedule to meet you at the grocery store, GOD bless.

Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 13, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm

Women are NOT Pit Bulls
Normal Woam would not gamble politics with sick infant child on Campaign Trail
Normal woman would not bring unwed pregnant teen daughter on National stage to show
Normal woman would not spread false in official events
Normal woman would protect victims of rape.
This Monster Pit Bull is an image of what is NOT Normal Woman is.
It is ugly low-minded personality, Moron-Mom,Moron-woman, Monster.
It is Disgrace for America to put this Moron on the ticket.
Disgrace for generations to come.
we know – GOP is fooling us again with this Moron.
American people are NOT stupid
NOWAY
NOHOW
NO McWAR
NO Pit Bull

Posted by: Linda,Fl | September 13, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm

Ahhhh, but if Sarah Palin was a
Democrat, all you Liberal
Dems would be worshipping her as a Goddess, and all those things you all hate and criticize Senator Palin about would be the Holy Grail. It’s a pity you can’t be joyful about a woman’s achievement that has nothing to do with your daughter or granddaughters or nieces. You don’t have to vote for her, but an attempt at respect for another human being apparently too much for you. And then you wonder why so many folk are so disillusioned with the Democrat party.
A question:
If two years of community activism makes Senator Obama instantly qualified to be President of the greatest country in the world, does four years of paid work as a social worker qualify me to be Queen of the Universe? After all, I have two more years experience than
Senator Obama–that’s GOT to count for something!
McCain 08
Hillary 2012

Posted by: Sandy Diana | September 13, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm

If Sarah Palin continues to evade questions regarding her actions as governor and mayor, how can we possibly trust her. She is extremely gifted at evading questions in a very poised way. Take, for example, the questions about her initial stance on the Bridge to Nowhere in her recent interview. I believe she was asked the same question at least 4 times. Either she is hiding something or she is too stupid to understand a very clear and direct question.

Posted by: Anna | September 13, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm

If Barack Obama continues to evade questions regarding his actions as…..what??? Anything he’s done? But he hasn’t done anything, so how can we possibly trust him? He is extremely gifted at evading questions in a very poised way. Take, for example, the questions about his Rev. Wright church attendance and Bill Aryes relationship.I believe he’s been asked over several months the same questions. Either he is hiding something or he is too stupid to understand a very clear and direct question.

Posted by: Sandy Diana | September 13, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm

Sandy Diana,
If Obama chose a running mate like Sarah Palin, I would be be scared over to the McCain side immediately. Not because of her experience, but because of what she stands for. She is a master at lying and manipulation, as can be seen in her interviews. Notice how often she avoids questions regarding the Bridge to Nowhere, the book banning, the public safety commissioner, and the list goes on.
Furthermore, if Obama’s VP choice had said the Iraq war was “God’s will”, that in itself would be enough to send me running in the other direction.

Posted by: Beth | September 13, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm

linda – can you show us any more anger and stupidity from you and your side. talking about her decision’s as a mother and woman like that make’s you moron’s look even more ignorant. you’re just jealous that she’s more beautiful inside and out and your not. your just mad that she did’nt kill and innocent baby like your horring a** would have done and probaly have you freakin baby killing idiot moron liberal peace of sh**. McCain/Palin08

Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 13, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm

I love how people blindly trust Palin whenever her values or honesty is put to question. Take the book banning for example. Perhaps her questions were “rhetorical” and her attempt at firing of the librarian was just coincidence. However, at this point we only have her word against those of others. This and other key issues need further investigation until they are completely resolved.

Posted by: Deb B | September 13, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm

linda – the word peace was spelled that way for a reason, can you figure it out? i don’t think you can so i’ll explain real quick. you liberal’s say you are peaceful and for peace yet you would rather hate people for not killing baby’s and praise terrorist who would do nothing but kill you if you don’t convert to thier way’s. please educate yourself with commonsense please!

Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 13, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm

Beth, thank you for your response to me. I am an old lady. Your argument is something the Dems have manipulated me with for the past 30 years. Fear and Guilt and Victimization.
Please answer my question: Where was your righteous indignation when the Florida and Michigan votes were discounted? Where was your outrage? And what did YOU do to get those votes to count?
You are believing the lying liberal media who annoited Obama. That is your choice, of course, but it is still a free country. You cannot and will not change my mind and the minds of millions of people out there that John McCain is a good and decent human being and can and will be President of the United States. I’ll be waiting for your answer to my questions. Thanks.
McCain 08
Hillary 2012

Posted by: Sandy Diana | September 13, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm

Deb B,
I wholeheartedly agree with what you said. While I understand there is a bogus “banned book” list circulating the internet, that is actually not true, it does concern me that Sarah Palin would ask a rhetorical question regarding the banning of books, and then attempt to get the librarian fired shortly thereafter. I don’t think that we are getting the full story regarding this situation, and I would like to hear more about exactly what transpired.
As a writer, I’m deeply disturbed by the suggestion that Palin could have any connection with a banned book effort. That’s definitely one issue among many that weighs on my mind when I consider her positions on the issues.

Posted by: Kerry | September 13, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm

kerry – the books talked about with the librarian was harry potter books. she was just looking out for the moral well being of the community kids. now, i understand it’s not her job to morally raise other people’s kid’s, but she was just looking after thier safety. that show’s how good of a heart she has when it comes to kids. look at big cities and their problem’s with kid’s, can you blame that all on the book’s, no. but it is the parent’s responsablity to morally raise thier kids how they see fit, and every body know’s not all parent’s do their job as parent’s. as an example, my nephew is into those books along with alot of his friend’s and some of their personalities are destructive at home, school, and abroad acting out in wierd manners such as talking about dragon’s and demon’s and putting spell’s on people and especially teacher’s and also has led to some kids getting into satanic influeces. columbine was just an
opening into the forsight of today’s parents neglect towards the well being of their kids life mentally and morally.

Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 13, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm

We have a child with Down Syndrome who is the pride and joy of our lives. I know first hand the amount of research and learning, extensive therapy and doctor appointments, and constant major decisions that need to be made regarding her care and education. I would say that the first couple of years are the most overwhelming because this was so new to us.
She is doing great at age 13, and I know that this is largely due to the early intervention that we sought out for her (and of course her extremely hard work and wonderful personality). We took her to regular speech, OT, and physical therapy. The appointments were just a small part of her therapy, as the critical piece was my husband and I using all of these techniques to help her learn at home.
I have several friends who also have children with Down Syndrome, and in many cases, both parents work full time jobs. Especially during the early childhood years, they had to work even harder by teaching and monitoring other caregivers on how to work with their child’s unique special needs.
The problem is that being Vice President is far more than a full time job.
Not only do Sarah and her husband have a baby with special needs, but they also have a pregnant teenage daughter who I’m sure needs extra love and support from her parents right now.
If Sarah Palin chooses to run for such a major office at another point in her life, I think she should go for it. It just seems that at this time in her life, she and her husband need to put their family first.
Normally I would not feel it is my place to question anyone’s current career choices, but being a heartbeat away from president cannot be taken lightly.

Posted by: Julie | September 13, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm

I am 71 years old and against Sarah Palin!
I am old enough to remember back alley abortions. Whether I believe in them or not..I believe in a woman’s RIGHT to choose. There are seats on the Supreme Court open and hopefully not to pro-lifers. Many other reasons, even tho she seems to be “macho” that I believe she would be WRONG for women as a VP and a possible President.Just because she is female doesn’t mean WOMEN will vote for her

Posted by: kutzeh | September 14, 2008, 12:06 am 12:06 am

Timaaa7,
Thanks for your response. I have no doubt that Sarah Palin cares deeply for children, and that she is very family oriented–I can definitely see that, when it comes to her own children. And, I understand that some people disagree with the content of the Harry Potter books. That is definitely an individual’s right and choice when it comes to literature and everything else.
When it comes to banning a book so that no one can read it, that’s what really bothers me. As a person who really values education, I think it’s better to expose people to all kinds of books–even if they don’t necessarily agree with the content, I think there’s always something to learn from them. I know I’ve read books that I really end up not liking or disagreeing with, but it helps me form my own thoughts and opinions about things. I like to think that most people are inherently good, and will be able to find the right way, no matter what they are exposed to.
I do agree that a lot of this is the responsibility of the parents. It’s too bad that in many cases the parents aren’t as involved as they could be. But that’s also where a community comes in–I really like that saying, “It takes a Village to raise a child.” I think that’s very true–not that it’s entirely a community’s responsibility to raise a child, but that a community can provide a lot of positive influences in a child’s life.
I think when it comes to children getting involved in damaging behaviors, to themselves and others it’s a combination of a lot of factors–including what is happening in the family, what supports exist for the child ect. I think in this case a much better and more effective approach is looking at the system as a whole–what is the child not getting that he or she needs? And specifically addressing those needs. I believe that a lot of problems today with young people have to do with poverty, and kids living without the resources that they need to live healthy lives. That’s what appeals to me about the Democratic Party–I feel that they have a better grasp on the struggles that the middle class is dealing with. That’s just my opinion though! :-)
Thanks again for sharing your thoughts!

Posted by: Kerry | September 14, 2008, 12:06 am 12:06 am

Julie, Congrats on your lovely family and all your hard work in your personal choice–being a parent.
Your points are well-taken. May I offer this: There are many women who are raising differentially abled kids, without husbands or extended families. They are smart, tough women who are real mountain lions when it comes to their cubs. And yet, they never make it on that liberal bastion, “Oprah”, they are never held in martyred esteem, and they quietly take care of their chosen lives–kids–with great grace and grit.
I have NO doubt that Governor Palin is not only capable of doing the same, but that she can do it without all the drama and martyrdom the Dems wish to infuse her with. Her family unit is so strong and loving. She has come this far, so splendidly, with the same issues and concerns as so many parents experience nowadays–child deployed to Iraq, pregnant teen daughter. Let me ask you: If it were Governor SAUL Palin or Governor STAN Palin, would anybody be questioning HIS skills? Of course not! The “Little Lady” would stay at home and take care of the kids. Well, in this case, Governor Palin’s “little lady” is the “First Dude” of the state of Alaska, the father of their children who will be with their children, to love and nuture and raise them. Is this such a bad thing? It’s an INTACT family unit (now that’s a rarity in America!!!) and both the mom and dad are equal parents in the raising of the children they chose to create, carry to term and parent. This should be cause for joy, such a wonderful example of a strong marriage and family values, and the honoring of one’s marriage vows and the lives these parents chose to bring into the world and accept PERSONAL responsibility to love and nuture and raise right, we should be celebrating the truimph that it really is. Instead all we do is try to destroy it. We should feel very blessed and lucky that the glass ceiling is truly cracking because a qualified woman with all these family attributes is achieving a great first for all women in this country.
McCain 08
Hillary 2012

Posted by: Sandy Diana | September 14, 2008, 12:12 am 12:12 am

Timmaaa7 -
Where on earth did you hear that the books in question were Harry Potter? The rhetorical questions about book banning took place in 1996. The first Harry Potter book was not released in the US until late 1998, so I do not see how she possibly could have been been talking about Harry Potter books.
You had better check your sources before making such false statements.

Posted by: Mark | September 14, 2008, 12:12 am 12:12 am

Sarah Palin is a far superior role model for young women than Hillary Clinton will ever be… and some women don’t want to vote for her? If that’s not a great way for women to sabotage their own gender, I don’t know what is.
P.S. Palin currently has an 80% approval rating, which is significantly higher than any of the three men can boast.

Posted by: James | September 14, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am

Kutzuh, I am not only old enough to remeber back alley abortions, someone I love almost died from one. And do you also remember Stonewall? How about Griswold vs CT?
However, the fear of abortion being turned over to the states doesn’t bother me. You see, the chickens have come home to roost. When Florida and Michigan were denied their primary votes, may I ask where your outrage was then? What did you personally do to help get those votes to stand? Nothing, you say? You did nothing? But how is it possible that you want everyone to vote for your candidate so that your daughters and granddaughters can have that necessary abortion before they go off on their trust fund education at Yale? O, I see—you need my vote to help keep abortion–how do you say it–”safe and legal”, yet you did nothing to help the voices of three million disenfranchised voters be counted. Is that correct? And now you want me to reward your party of violation by giving it my vote because someday, somewhere, some latte liberal will need an abortion before she goes off to study at the Sorbonne with her Trustifarian boyfriend. I’ll pass, thanks.
McCain 08
Hillary 2012

Posted by: Sandy Diana | September 14, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am

Hi Sandy Diana,
I agree that if the “first dude” is committed to being the primary caregiver of the children, this could work. He would need to be the type of person that is willing to research the many options out there and determine what is right for their son Trig (correct me if I have the wrong one here). The question is, is he willing and able to make this commitment if they win the election?
I just agree with Julie that this couple has more on their plate than the average family right now, and I hope that they truly understand what they are getting into.

Posted by: Ann | September 14, 2008, 12:29 am 12:29 am

Sandy Diana- If you are such a strong Hillary supporter, are you truly comfortable with the views of McCain/Palin? To me, it sounds like you are making a protest vote, which can be terribly dangerous if you do not think about what your vote truly stands for. If you dislike Obama that much, pick a third party candidate that most closely represents your views.

Posted by: Mark | September 14, 2008, 12:48 am 12:48 am

mark – how is this for a correction. i can admit to being wrong only by using the wrong books name’s in reverse, harry potter book were and issue at it’s time of release but just talked about with no action. the librarian issue was about the books go ask alice and pastor,i am gay. those moral issue’s we’re what the town had issue’s about. the main reason for issue’s of the firing of the librarian was from the frustration of resident’s and the librarian having personal issue’s with one another over differences of moral overtone with the book issues. the librarian is a city official appointed in most cities and can not disrespect any citizens by code of conduct. that is why sara asked the librarian such question’s and walked away. sara was just doing her job which is to serve the community. and once again, issue’s can be talked about freely, but no book’s were ever taking off the shelf. that is how sara listens to the people from both side’s.

Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 14, 2008, 12:59 am 12:59 am

Sarah Palin??? What a joke!!! It is so interesting as to how many women that I work with think that she is wonderful. Wonderful for what??? Making babies, killing innocent animals, etc. She is just another red neck that has made it to the “elitist” class based on her financial status. But her red neck values still resound loudly. Hey, you can take a red neck from the trailer but you can’t take the trailer from the red neck. MCcain and family values??? You do mean the adulterer who travel across country to pursue his barbie doll (Cindy) while he was still married to Carol. Carol had been in an accident and she couldn’t continue to pose as his trophy wife. What else could a man like John do??? Surely, we don’t want him to remain in a marriage when his arm piece is not perfect. What a hypocrite!!!!!!!! Oh yeah, the margin between middle class and the rich is 5 million. OUT OF TOUCH!! What is so funny is that many people who make less than 100K a year are voting for him. What will he do for you? Nothing. He will continue to whore the rednecks as the republicans have done for years. Republican Party makes the poor pitiful rednecks fell important. NOT!!!
I can’t wait for the day when we vote based on issues and not race, gender or religion.

Posted by: Nina | September 14, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am

In response to Sandy Diana’s comments:
If my husband decided to run for VP at a time when we had a baby with down syndrome, a pregnant teenager, two children in between, and a son going going to war, I would be pretty upset with him for picking such bad timing.

Posted by: Carol N | September 14, 2008, 1:07 am 1:07 am

To E: ‘Sorry, I’ve never read US magazine.
And I’m considerably more well-informed than you, if you think that Sarah Palin is qualified to V.P.
Get your head out of your partisan behind and actually do some research on this woman.

Posted by: Sara in MN | September 14, 2008, 2:19 am 2:19 am

sarah palin is no more than a political harlot. the republicans have put her in a tight skirt and sexy specs, and then put her on the political corner to lure votes from uninformed women. well count me out, i’m not buying!! sarah palin is the WRONG woman!

Posted by: pattybomiss | September 14, 2008, 2:39 am 2:39 am

nina – i guess you would rather kill innocent babies instead of putting food on your table for your family, yes hunting is legal like your moronic baby killing laws. forgive us for having moral’s and fearing and loving GOD in Jesus name. we are not religious freaks but you must be a freak of nature. so go and eat your grass oat’s and hang out with your lesbian and queer friends and dream of the day when there is no goverment rule with moral’s and no GOD to fear like you dream of and see what happen’s to you stupid moron’s, what, that already happened(sodom and gomorah). or is your moronic parent’s to blame too for your stupid behavior! your parent’s must have been porn stars, because they sure did’nt raise you with any moral’s you freaking baby killer! HHMMMMMM!!!! meat taste good you idiotic liberal, go to your cave and shut up!!!

Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 14, 2008, 3:04 am 3:04 am

timmaaa7…and you call yourself a christian?

Posted by: kim | September 14, 2008, 4:08 am 4:08 am

Palin was a bad decision for McCain, because he just wanted a ‘shocker’.McCain is the one to attack on this issue.Palin just doesn’t see it yet.If She really wants to make a difference, she needs to Step away for now, and read up on how the other 49 states are run.Maybe for the next election, she will be more familar with real government politics, and not have a personal agenda, but a worldly agenda.It’s just Weird to hear her talk of ‘God’ and ‘War’ and how everyone should have a gun.Right now she sounds like an ‘extremist’, and I am not ready for World War III.I am happy she can put her family aside, to run Alasaka, but she needs to curb the crime rate in her home state, before trying to curb crime in all the states.Again, McCain is the one to go after, for his ideas, of the ‘Sex’ card being played.

Posted by: historyforgotten | September 14, 2008, 6:17 am 6:17 am

The one thing I like about being a Liberal, is the ‘Freedom of Imagination’. It feels good to imagine that one day, we will live in a Free and Equal Country, that our Fore-Fathers once Imagined. I am also glad we can be conservative, on a personal level, and pass on traditions, that may or may not, be accepted by others.But to live in a conservative dictatorship, where the rich rule the country, makes me wonder if McCain/Palin are being influenced by Russia.Palin after all can see Russia, from her house.As for timmaaa7, do you think Jesus wished we all had guns? Or, do you just believe, that ‘anyone can hurt anyone’, and just be forgiven? Everybody needs to get away from the idea that Palin is a woman, and see her, as a corruptable politician.I am personal glad to see a larger demographic, represtened in this election.But my vote will not be fixated on Race, Color, Greed, or Sex.Just Good Politics.

Posted by: historyforgotten | September 14, 2008, 6:41 am 6:41 am

P.S…Remember, the two for President, are Obama and McCain.Palin has to be compared to Biden, for those who want to compare politicians.

Posted by: historyforgotten | September 14, 2008, 6:49 am 6:49 am

To Charlie Gibson: When you asked Sarah Palin her views regarding the Bush’s Doctrine which of Bush’s Doctrines were you referring to? And do you know there is old news video evidence proving that several years ago you didn’t really know what the Bush Doctrines were either. Charlie what gives you the right to look down your nose and over your glasses at Sarah Palin as if your were instructing a novice on Bush Doctrine? Sorry Charlie you disappointed me and a lot of us…. you have set yourself apart….you just don’t get it any more….. are you too old…. does ABC need a change?

Posted by: E. Holler | September 14, 2008, 8:18 am 8:18 am

Carol:Do you have a pregnant teen, a Down syndrome baby and a son going to war? Have you ever experienced this?
Have you been asked to serve your country, for a cause greater than yourself?
Unless you can answer “Yes” to both those questions, you are not qualified to judge or criticize Sarah Palin’s actions. What you can do is pray for her to continue to be the strong, loving, nuturing, WOman she is…because if this were a man no one would care, or else he would be deified for it. Are you even married? Do you have kids? No one knows what goes on between a deeply committed, couple, except the couple themselves. To suggest that Sarah and her husband did not discuss this is patently untrue. Were you there?
McCain 08
Hillary 2012

Posted by: Sandy Diana | September 14, 2008, 8:59 am 8:59 am

Hi Mark–Thanks for your comments to me. I picked John McCain, after the Dems violated me and three million other voters, because I respect him and his integrity and service to our country. Whom he picked for VP was of little interest to me, though I did lobby online for Tom Ridge or Lieberman. My husband and I do find Sarah Palin bright and refreshing, even if we don’t agree with many of her views. I want to make it abundantly clear that this is not a protest vote, though I’m sure the whiny Liberal press will position it that way. My husband and I have been used by the Democrat party for over 30 years. We have faithfully stood by them and voted straight party line, no questions asked. We became interested in John McCain in 2000 during the angry battle the Bushies gave him in 2000, and have followed his actions ever since. Many Dems I know are very interested in McCain, but not because of Sarah Palin. Are you old enough to remember Reagan Dems? Because if you are, it’s those voters who have been awakened by this contest and are coming home to roost in McCain’s corner. This is a two party system at present and one of those candidates–Obama or McCain will be elected President. After watching Obama ignore the lose of three million primary votes–indeed, stand idly by and do NOTHING–those his minions called/wrote/fought tough and hard NOT to have our votes count because if they were Obama would lose and Hillary would win, we Hillary supporters were sent a message: GO TO HELL. WE DON’T WANT YOU.
Well, hell, then they got want they wanted! It’s their party and they got want they wanted—now they expect we the voters to “reconsider” because of big, bad, John McCain and Hockey Mom Palin. Didn’t the Obama supporters stop and think that they would need the support of the very people they fought so hard to disenfranchise? Maybe you should ask CHris Matthews or Roland Martin, or Eugene Robinson, or several of my neighbors who spent months blogging and snailmailing Dems in the party to NOT allow the FL and MI votes to count. Many of us disenfranchised have moved on to other candidates–Ralph Nadar, Cynthia McKinney, and yes, John McCain.
My husband and I believe John McCain has the best chance of winning this election and running this country with respect and dignity, inclusive of all Americans, not just the ones who voted for him (sound familiar)?

Posted by: Sandy Diana | September 14, 2008, 9:22 am 9:22 am

Sandy-
But then why weren’t you so angered by the Florida situation in the 2000 election?

Posted by: Beth | September 14, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am

Kim,
Timmaaa7 obviously is NOT a christian. Jesus did not teach us to hate the way he does.

Posted by: Dave | September 14, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am

Beth, I was. I fought it all the way, as high as I could. It was a horrible travesty. But it the was Bush Repubs discounting the votes of Democrats, not Democrats discounting votes of Democrats becuase they HAD to have Obama as the cadidate. The elections were rigged. When your own team turns on you, violates you and then asks you to support it, even though it did you harm, there’s a problem. One’s personal integrity in one’s voice is at stake. Does one follow the party line after the violation cause, gosh, shucks, all the big white men must know best for little ole us in the heartland and the south, or does one say: “I’VE HAD ENOUGH WITH THIS BULLSHIT. THERE MUST BE SOMETHING BETTER OUT THERE THAN A PARTY THAT DOESN’T WANT ME UNLESS I VOTE FOR THEIR ONE-CANDIDATE AND ONE CANDIDATE ONLY?–ya know, kinda sounding like Nazi Germany there, boys and girls. A one-candidate party. Read your history. It ain’t pretty.
What did you do in 2000? What did you do in 2008? If you did nothing, then please say so. Present your candidate as Barack Obama and we will have no argument. It is your right to vote for whom you want, regardless of what I think, even though that privilege was denied me and three million others in FL and MI. Just don’t expect me to see eye-to-eye with you. Maybe in 2012, but not now.
Again, I ask, “Where is your outrage? What did YOU do to ensure the equality of votes of three MILLION Democrats–your brothers and sisters!!!—would count equally in the Dem primary? Where is your outrage? Where? I look forward to your answers.
McCain 08
Hillary 2012

Posted by: Sandy Diana | September 14, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am

This is for timmaaa7
Thank you so much for writing that because you just proved that everything that I wrote was true. HYPOCRISY STILL LIVES!!! See, it is YOUR kind of christianity (NOT!) that is frightening. No true christian would write those things. What GOD do you serve? How proud of you must he be after that. I obviously step on YOUR toes. Should your parents be blamed for your behavior or your GOD? I noticed in your name calling, you used used moron and stupid repeatedly. WOW, don’t we need a boost in vocabulary. When reading your response, I felt your hate. Does your GOD teach you to hate? Mine does not. I don’t hate you, McCain, or Palin; however, I respect that we have different views and I think that the 3 of you are hypocrites. I HAVE that right right now.
This is the issue: I make over 100K a year. Do you? So does my husband!!! However, can our economy (which McCain admitted that he knew little about) stand 4 more years of the same mess. See, I pay the same thing for gas and groceries as you do; however, is it hurting you? It is hurting many American people. Do you even care about the economy? McCain has proposed tax cuts (but not for the middle class.) Sorry, that me. Is it you? See I am sick of the rich getting richer at the poor and middle class expense. Don’t be his whore!! Vote for what you need.

Posted by: nina | September 14, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am

This is for timmaaa7
Thank you so much for writing that because you just proved that everything that I wrote was true. HYPOCRISY STILL LIVES!!! See, it is YOUR kind of christianity (NOT!) that is frightening. No true christian would write those things. What GOD do you serve? How proud of you must he be after that. I obviously step on YOUR toes. Should your parents be blamed for your behavior or your GOD? I noticed in your name calling, you used used moron and stupid repeatedly. WOW, don’t we need a boost in vocabulary. When reading your response, I felt your hate. Does your GOD teach you to hate? Mine does not. I don’t hate you, McCain, or Palin; however, I respect that we have different views and I think that the 3 of you are hypocrites. I HAVE that right right now.
This is the issue: I make over 100K a year. Do you? So does my husband!!! However, can our economy (which McCain admitted that he knew little about) stand 4 more years of the same mess. See, I pay the same thing for gas and groceries as you do; however, is it hurting you? It is hurting many American people. Do you even care about the economy? McCain has proposed tax cuts (but not for the middle class.) Sorry, that me. Is it you? See I am sick of the rich getting richer at the poor and middle class expense. Don’t be his whore!! Vote for what you need.

Posted by: nina | September 14, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am

I’m a grandmother who has spent my whole life in small towns. Small towns like the one T W (that woman) comes from.
If it weren’t for community leaders and volunteers small towns couldn’t exist. Is’nt that Democracy, the people organizing to run their communities and the country?
To see T W and her Side Kick Giulani, stand on the stage and laugh about Obama being a community organizer was the height of Hypocrisy on their part.
If McCain thinks most women will vote for him because of That Woman, he’s wrong. We have higher standards than that.

Posted by: Sandy | September 14, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am

It is becoming glaringly apparent that Sarah Palin is the female version of George Bush. Does a wolf in sheeps clothing ring a bell for anyone. Wake up America and do the right thing, the very future of our country depends on it!!!

Posted by: Douglas Farwell | September 14, 2008, 11:18 am 11:18 am

N wrote-
Sarah Palin has done more in two weeks for women than anyone else in history, expect those who foufht for their right to vote!
ABSOLUTE B.S.! If the republicans win, they will screw everything up even more than it is. Palin will set us back a century, all the work the women before us did will be put to waste by this dog in lipstick.

Posted by: lena | September 14, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am

It is people like timmaaa7 that give Americans a bad name.

Posted by: Kevin | September 14, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm

It is people like timmaaa7 that give Americans and Christians a bad name. I am both, and want the world to know that most of us are not that bigoted and hateful.

Posted by: Kevin | September 14, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm

Oops it looks like my comment was posted an extra time before I was finished.

Posted by: Kevin | September 14, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm

Sounds as if the liberal left ladies have their pantyhose in a wad. Suggest they call their doctor and have their meds changed ASAP.
As for the Obamessiah’s campaign, the gurgling sound you hear is his campaign going down the toilet…quickly. Face it, if he couldn’t even make the right decision to chose Ms. Clinton as his running mate, how in God’s name can he make decisions regarding the welfare of the U.S. and its citizens? It’s as simple as that – whether you’re a Palin-hater or a Palin-supporter. The Obamessiah dissed Ms. Clinton when he should have chosen her, so ‘the chosen one’ isn’t doing very well on choosing, is he?

Posted by: Carol | September 14, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm

Kevin, don’t be fooled by timmaaa7. He may pretend to be a Christian, but his comments are so anti christian it makes me cringe. I have no idea what he follows, but it certainly isn’t the teachings of Jesus Christ.

Posted by: Ann | September 14, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm

Carol- How can you support Hillary and then just reverse your views to those of McCain/Palin? Even Hillary is now campaigning for Obama because she realizes how devastating the alternative could be.

Posted by: Jack | September 14, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm

Jack’s point is very valid, so this question is directed to Sandy Diana.
If Hillary herself can get past this outrage, why can’t you. She is putting aside her anger (and possibly her future as president in 2012) just so she can do what is right for the country. If anyone has a right to remain bitter, it is Hillary, but she has chosen to move on.

Posted by: Lynn | September 14, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm

Sarah Palin is being keep away from the media except in very controlled situations and that tells me they are afraid that we all will figure out she is not ready. Lets stop calling each other names and get this women vetted. This is not a game. This is scary stuff and she could end up president and we don’t even know her. I found her interview with Gibson rehearsed and astoundingly lacking in diplomatic tone and basic knowledge.

Posted by: Sarah | September 14, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm

Hey John…come out from behind Sarah’s skirt and tell us what you really stand for.

Posted by: Susan | September 14, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm

How can anyone stand behind a woman who is being hidden from the media whenever possible? She needs to be questioned to find out who she really is and what she truly stands for. Until then, stop portraying her as someone who she may not be. Once she is questioned without rehearsal, and we see her true colors, then we can make informed decisions. Maybe I am wrong and this woman really is a saint, but we do not have any proof either way.

Posted by: Bob | September 14, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm

John McCain has been a part of the dysfunction in our government for nearly 3 decades. It is illogical to think he is going to change anything now? He doesn’t care what he has to do or say to get elected or who he will leave running the country should he die in office. Please people slow down. Demand to know more about this women before you vote. That is not too much to ask.

Posted by: Sally | September 14, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm

Bob has it exactly right.

Posted by: Sarah | September 14, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm

I agree that the interview with Gibson was telling. There’s a comment earlier in this thread stating that Gibson didn’t know what “the Bush Doctrine” was a few years ago either. That may be true. The difference is that Gibson wasn’t seeking the 2nd highest political position in our country . . . so how important was it for him to know? If Palin can’t handle an interview with a journalist, how is she going to handle diplomatic issues?

Posted by: chaz | September 14, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm

Hi Lynn, Thanks for your comment to me. By asking me this question, you are freely admitting there was an injustice done to the voters in Florida and MMichigan.
Therefore, it appears you are comfortable with it. Why does it bother you that I choose, after my violation, not to be violated again? Hillary will do her best for her party because that’s the kind of person she is, and for that, I applaud her and will vote for her again in 2012 if the old white guys in the Dem party will allow her to win next time.
When the Dems said “We don’t want you and we are going to steal your vote from you to prove this”, I chose to leave and look around at other candidates who were running. I chose John McCain for whom I have deep respect for his inegrity and service to our country, and he chose Sarah Palin, whom I find bright and refreshing, but with whom I have several differences of opinion. But as a woman and a servant of the public good, she has my highest respect.
What puzzles me is why you won’t get over your issues with folk not wanting to vote for your candidates, and the incapability for your team to grasp that they were not team players, and we who are no longer on the team are under no obligation to support it. You all are so outraged over that, lol, but you ignored the loss of 3 million votes of your fellow dems so your candidate would win the nomination. Now you’re angry because some of us don’t want to play in your yard anymore! You threw us off the team, and now we’ve joined another team.
When the right captain comes back to the team, my husband and I may come back. But until that time, we are free agents and loving every minute of it! We feel like rock stars…everybody wants us!
Tell me, Lynn, what rule am I breaking by not voting for Barack Obama? Thanks.

Posted by: Sandy Diana | September 14, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm

WOW, maybe timmaaa7 went to church or mass this morning. Maybe he will come back and discuss the issues without hatred. I assume that Palin is a good person until I have proof otherwise; however, this alone does not qualify you for VP.
Let’s think about it. How much have we heard from Cheney other than him shooting his hunting partner and not being punished. I think for most people that is usually punishable by law. Oh yeah, the other thing we know about him is that he is getting so rich because his company is rebuilding IRAQ. How quaint is that? Your boss tears it down and hires you to build it up for billions of dollars. Rich getting richer at the expense of lives and the American people. I have lost several family members in Iraq. This war is senseless unless you are one of the gun toters that love war. Political Gangsters! Drive by shooting in Iraq!! Sorry, that is another website. This is about Palin.
Mothers of down syndrome kids were very insulted that she wishes to advertise that “I can’t my baby even though I knew.” KNEW WHAT! You never know what kind of blessing the Lord is sending you. But whatever it is- it is yours!!!

Posted by: nina | September 14, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm

WOW, maybe timmaaa7 went to church or mass this morning. Maybe he will come back and discuss the issues without hatred. I assume that Palin is a good person until I have proof otherwise; however, this alone does not qualify you for VP.
Let’s think about it. How much have we heard from Cheney other than him shooting his hunting partner and not being punished. I think for most people that is usually punishable by law. Oh yeah, the other thing we know about him is that he is getting so rich because his company is rebuilding IRAQ. How quaint is that? Your boss tears it down and hires you to build it up for billions of dollars. Rich getting richer at the expense of lives and the American people. I have lost several family members in Iraq. This war is senseless unless you are one of the gun toters that love war. Political Gangsters! Drive by shooting in Iraq!! Sorry, that is another website. This is about Palin.
Mothers of down syndrome kids were very insulted that she wishes to advertise that “I kept my baby even though I knew.” KNEW WHAT! You never know what kind of blessing the Lord is sending you. But whatever it is- it is yours!!!

Posted by: nina | September 14, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm

Nina, I was very touched by your last paragraph. Girl, you have heart. I wish you the best however you choose to vote. Peace

Posted by: Sandy Diana | September 14, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm

Hey Everyone!
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Posted by: Josh | September 14, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm

As always, I am stunned by how few Americans bother to read the websites of the candidates.
As a woman. I honestly don’t care what Palin’s sex is (and for those of you who also don’t know your history, Palin is the SECOND vice presidential female nominee from a major party so McCain’s picking her is not so groundbreaking).
I do care, though, about Palin’s inexperience (please, do not tell me that being a US senator from a major state with one of the nation’s largest cities {Obama] is the same as being the mayor of a town of 9,000 and governor of a state a fraction the size of Chicago). I do care about the fact that Palin has never traveled outside the US (it’s good to understand how others view us when making foreign policy). I do care about the fact that Palin clearly belongs to a church which preaches hate (against gays etc.). I do care about the fact that Palin has only given empty promises about caring for people with disabilities (while Obama has this as a central issue in his campaign and on his website). I do care about the fact that Palin does not seem to have read a newspaper (haven’t we seen the dangers of that with Bush?!). I do care about the fact that she does not believe global warming is man-made.
And on and on.
Outside of very wealthy white males who stand to benefit enormously from a McCain-Palin presidency and who will not lose any rights, I am hard-pressed to understand why ANYONE would vote for this woman.

Posted by: allie | September 14, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm

NY persons do not understand women in the rest of the country. Get out into the country and smell freedom in the air.
How is it that Mars, Titan and Pluto (which is moving away from the sun) are warming? Maybe like the earth, they share the sun?? Man might be a contributor to global warming, but not the root cause here on earth.
Call the NY girls a WAAAAAAmbulance.

Posted by: Sable | September 14, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm

Amen Allie. That’s what I don’t get. Why are the very people McCain is not going to take care of voting for him and why are they afraid to let us vet Palin as much as the other candidates have been so far. I am a single mom, caring for two elderly parents, one with advanced Parkinson’s Disease and the other with Alzheimer’s. The cost of drugs for their care is unbelievable. It used to be when I got a raise it meant things got a little easier, but because of the way my health insurance, prescription drugs and food and gas have shot up it makes very little difference any more. McCain is not going to address these things. He has never cared before.
We live in Arizona where the schools are ranked nearly the lowest in the country, but still he has a very high rating here. I believe that is because of the huge retirement population we have here. They are the ones that love McCain. Not those of us trying to raise kids here. I feel he does nothing to help my family.

Posted by: Sarah | September 14, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm

Sable get over yourself. Living in the country does not give you some great incite into being a better American. Oh, let me guess. You are for McCain/Palin. They have been pushing that derisive crap for weeks.

Posted by: Sally | September 14, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm

The Palin pick is an insult to any thinking person, woman or man. Only a person who spent the last 8 years under a rock would not know what the Bush doctrine is. Her views are offensive to women – anti-abortion, creationsim, bigotry, the curled lip… Enough! This country has been a laughing stock for 8 years now. Who wants to go back even more, all the way to the Dark Ages? Time for a CHANGE!!!

Posted by: kat | September 14, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm

Sorry guys. Mispelled divisive in previous entry.

Posted by: Sally | September 14, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm

Sandy Diana,
Of course you are not breaking any rule by not voting for Barack Obama. However, are choosing the right candidates by picking someone “with whom you have several differences of opinion”? Obama may not be the answer for you, but there always are other candidates on the ticket.
If you look at your basic views, are they more in sync with Obama/Biden or McCain/Palin? If you can honestly say that McCain best represent your views, then you should vote for them.

Posted by: Lynn | September 14, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm

Sandy Diana,
Of course you are not breaking any rule by not voting for Barack Obama. However, are choosing the right candidates by picking someone “with whom you have several differences of opinion”? Obama may not be the answer for you, but there always are other candidates on the ticket.
If you look at your basic views, are they more in sync with Obama/Biden or McCain/Palin? If you can honestly say that McCain/Palin best represent your views, then you should vote for them.

Posted by: Lynn | September 14, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm

Oh and by the way, I am registered as an independent. I have tended to vote for democratic candidates in recent years because I tend to agree with them more, but I consider each candidate individually. I actually prefer Hillary, but I’ve decided that Obama is still a much better choice for this country than McCain’s.

Posted by: Lynn | September 14, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm

Oh and by the way, I am registered as an independent. I have tended to vote for democratic candidates in recent years because I tend to agree with them more, but I consider each candidate individually. I actually prefer Hillary, but I’ve decided that Obama is still a much better choice for this country than McCain.

Posted by: Lynn | September 14, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm

I’m not sure why my messages all post twice. The first time I click post, nothing happens, so when I post again I see my message twice. Must be my browser. Sorry

Posted by: Lynn | September 14, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm

Let’s face it, those who watched the Charles Gibson/Sarah Palin interview, and support her will find no fault in the interview. At least that is what they will say publicly. Anyone with an ounce of common sense should be terrified at the thought of that woman being that close to the most powerful position is this country. Matt Damon hit the nail on the head, for which he is be criticized. He said, can you imagine her sitting down to talk with Vladmir Putin. It’s mind boggling why more people aren’t outraged. Scary isn’t it. It’s one thing to have confidence in your self, but confidence in ones self does not qualify you to be the Vice President and possibly the President. To her Republican supporters, it seems she can do no wrong. Short of committing murder they will continue to support her. That should you have stupid they are. Everyday more and more of her untruths are being uncovered. I predict she will do very poorly when she debates Senator Biden. I also predict that it won’t matter to the racist Republican party supporters. Also, I read John McCain has decided that he and Sarah Palin will continue campaigning together. He knows he cannot draw a crowd, and lots of foolish, misinformed people will come out to see her. Wake up people. John McCain, the same John McCain who admitted he did not have any experience with the economy, the same John McCain who keeps touting the surge is working in a country that never should have been invaded, the same John McCain who only separated himself from President Bush because of his political ambitions, the same John McCain who is a warmonger and is too old. Chuck Norris himself said it. Now he supports him. This is one of the most important elections of my lifetime. For the sake of my future and the generations that follow, we cannot afford four more years like the last eight.

Posted by: Jeannie M | September 14, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm

As an American woman, the daughter of legal immigrants, I know the value of voting. My parents fled a dictatorship in South America to ensure a better life for their children, and to make sure that I would grow up in a great land where my vote would count.
As a Chicago resident I am fortunate to have had the opportunity to vote for Barack Obama in the past, in fact, he was the first Democrat I ever voted for. That’s right, I used to vote Republican. I am fiscally conservative but I trend towards liberal social values. The Republican Party has lost me and no doubt countless others by taking us into a disastrous war, supporting backwards foreign policy and trampling the individual rights and opportunities that make this country a beacon of freedom around the globe.
I believe in democracy, and if you include George H.W. Bush as VP, Hillary Clinton would have made it 32 years of a Clinton or a Bush in the White House. I am ready for a fresh leader, that is Barack Obama.
I am profoundly offended and outraged that the Republican Party thinks that I am so stupid that I will vote for this ridiculous woman because I have a husband, a daughter, and two X chromosomes.
John McCain has lived past the average life expectancy for a man in the U.S.A. He has battled cancer and is still monitored closely. Despite the fact that I am not crazy about his politics, I honor his bravery and service to our country. He is out of his mind, however, if he thinks I want Sarah Palin one unsteady heartbeat away from the presidency. He has nerve talking about Obama’s experience when he picks a woman he has never met, with even less experience as his number 2. Shame on him and the Republican Party. Shame on Sarah Palin for accepting a nomination she knows she is not qualified for, and shame on her for thinking American women are too ignorant to realize what she is; the wrong women to represent us.

Posted by: Andrea | September 14, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm

palin is not qualified to be vp. Period.
It would be better to have a conversation about issues and background rather than name calling.

Posted by: mimi2 | September 14, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm

Lynn, locally/state/federal I am voting Dem. I am voting McCain/Palin at the top of the ticket.
Remember civics class, boys and girls? Checks and balances? A Repub President will do much better with a Dem congress as Clinton did with the “Contract ‘on’ America” (see, I show my liberal roots, lol)and Newt Gingrich and the gang. Ahhh, the good old days. For another istory lesson, kids, Ronald Reagan (for those of you not old enough to vote in this election and/or the historically ignorant, by choice or chance) did very well with a Dem Congress.
So, all you liberals out there: stop getting your organic undies in a twist. Mr. McCain is known as a maverick whose own party has serious concerns about his “values” because he has proven he can work across party lines–look at the work he has done with Joe Lieberman.
Lynn, I am an old war horse who has been around since the Carter days, lol, except in those days I was like you: liberaliberaliberal. I have a conservative friend who told me something last week which I have been pondering. Perhaps you will enjoy it:
“When you are young and you are not a liberal, you have no heart. When you are old and you are not a conservative, you have no brain”.
I wish you well you on your mission. Your candidate is very fortunate to have such a passionate and thinking person on his team. Cheers!

Posted by: Sandy Diana | September 14, 2008, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm

Imagine being a republican pundit right now. They must secretly hate McSenile for picking Palin, because they have to constantly defend stuff like this little jewel from the Gibson interview.
GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?
Palin: They’re our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land her in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.
I can’t wait for the debates.
But the ultimate responsibility for picking someone so unprepared to be a heartbeat away from the presidency is John McCain. If they win and God forbid he dies in office you have to ask yourself is this the person you want to have a finger on the proverbial red button? I shutter to think.

Posted by: Sarah | September 14, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm

Once and for all McCain is not a Maverick! Just an old horse. He is the senator in my state and only takes care of the rich. I can’t wait until he retires and we get some change in Arizona. We have an abundance of older folks here that keep him in office.

Posted by: Sarah | September 14, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm

Thank you for starting this blog. I am a retired professional woman who raised a family and went to school and/or worked as I raised my family. Most of my friends were doing the same. Since we are a generation older than Sara Palin, we encountered many more gender-related barriers than women find today. To overcome these barriers, we simply worked harder. In any event, Sara Palin who represents the neo-conservative world of Cheney, et al. does not represent my friends or myself. Many of my opposing views to her policies have been summarized by others (above) or can be noted in Frank Rich’s column in the NY Times today (Sunday).
I have learned recently that Alaska continues to receive a percentage of oil company profits annually. So what does Palin mean when she says that she continues to oppose the oil companies?
By the way, I think that the democrats have done a terrible job of handling the Palin phenomenon. She is an individual who is a media phenom. People like her. They believe her home-style delivery of anything (true or false) that she says. She is a formidable opponent.
I do not know any other parent who believes in keeping a pregnancy secret from other family members. Is that a policy of the far-right?
Her naive political policies, probably scripted by advisors, frighten me. I already have lived through the era of McCarthyism and was happy to have this country survive it. I don’t need a repetition to test my patriotism.
I live in Florida. In speaking with employed colleagues, it appears that young women support Palin. How does one reach these young women?

Posted by: edith | September 14, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm

Edith, I enjoyed reading your comments. They are refreshing and insightful, even if I don’t agree with some of them.
As a former social worker, I can tell you from professional experience that family systems are as unique as fingerprints. What one family unit may or may not do is entirely based on the individuals who comprise that unit and their particular circumstances, societal,emotional, inherited, etc.
To make an assessment re: Palin’s daughter’s pregnancy–”is that what right-wing families do” is a biased sounding generalization not worthy, IMHO, of the rest of your discourse.
You mention you live in Florida? Are you familiar with the Casey Anthony case that is happening in Orlando? She’s a young, single mom (how Dems just LOVE those cultural stereotypes) whose 3-year-old daughter Kaley Marie has been missing since June. Though there is circumstantial evidence, it cannot legally be proven that this young lady murdered her precious baby. If we are to assume that all “right-wing families keep secrets” then we can also assume that all single mothers murder their babies at the age of three, due to the example of Casey
Anthony.
Casey Anthony and her family could be Dems, ya know. Just throwing that out to you…
Perhaps you may not want to assume or judge Sarah Palin and her family, unless you were there.

Posted by: Sandy Diana | September 14, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm

Do you mean women have fought for rights all these years to have someone like Sarah Palin come along! I can imagine if Obama had put a beautiful black woman on the ticket and she had come on stage with five children,the 17year old being unwed and pregnant what the Rep. Swift Boaters would have said…Picture that one and tell me it isn’t about race!

Posted by: Sandy Pettitt | September 14, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm

Sarah,hello to an Arizonian!
I like John McCain. I’m voting for him. May I share a story from another state?
Joe Lieberman has served the people of that most liberal state, Connecticut, since 1978. In 2006, his own party, disgusted with Joe voting his conscience by voting for the Iraq war, told him to drop dead in the Primary, and overwhelmingly elected a millionaire liberal named Ned Lamont to run for the Senate seat that Joe had held for almost thirty years. Lamont had little political experience, I believe, but the ultra-left CT Dems wanted him anyway, based on one thing, and one thing only: Lamont was against the war.
Joe didn’t get mad. He ran as an Independent and said “Let the entire state of Connecticut decide if they want me in office–Repubs, Dems, Indies. If they say no, I’ll step down”
The rest is history, of course. Joe Lieberman overwhelmingly defeated Ned Lamont, who has since faded into obscurity.
I mention this for two reasons, the first being that this is what will happen in November. The American people will vote for who they believe is the best person to run this country. And, God willing that ALL the votes are counted, it will be the right person. My second reason is that McCain and Lieberman have worked together for years, though on different sides of the aisle and country–Connecticut, I dare say, is very different from Arizona! But it takes a lot of courage of character for someone to work well and closely with another who is not held in high esteem by one’s party/team. It does that John McCain has great ability to be, well, he is a maverick.
You say tomahto, I say tomayto, lol. Just wanted to share a different American perspective with you.
McCain 08
Hillary 2012

Posted by: Sandy Diana | September 14, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm

Hi Sandy, this is Sandy, too.
You are right. It is all about race. Nobody is allowed to oppose Senator Obama because he is 1/2 black. If anyone says they are not voting for him, they are racist. Trust me, I live it everyday. Senator Obama has 95% (at last count) of the black vote in this county, but is you are white and not voting for him, you are a racist. If you are black and not voting for him, you are an “Oreo”. And if you are black and a Republican, your people consider you the anti-christ.
Ask Roland Martin and Eugene Robinson, they’ll tell you. Why do you think the Dem party wanted Obama him on the top of the ticket–instead of the most qualified and experienced candidate, Hillary Clinton? They wanted Obama so badly that they were willing to disenfranchise the primary votes of two states in order to have him win. But if those two states had gone for Obama, I can only imagine the cries of racism.
You’re right, Sandy. Pure and total racism. But not how you think. Cheers.
McCain 08
Hillary 2012

Posted by: Sandy Diana | September 14, 2008, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm

It is not, of course, just women against Palin. This is one of the campaigns that goes beyond petition e-action that can be found online:
http://www.thepoint.com/campaigns/fight-back-broadcast-the-truth-about-sarah-palin
It aims to bring collective internet action together with a pledge-based campaign that would ultimately finance an anti-Palin advertisement in a major paper, swing-state by swing-state.

Posted by: Alex @ Make Something Happen | September 14, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm

There a few thing that I would like to break down. I am not quick to get on the bus with just anyone. I am a 29 year old minority mother of 4 whom resides in Alaska. I believe that Palin is not the right person for vp for McCain me personally I am for Obama but I respect peoples opinions on the matter. Sarah has not done by her self as many things here as she has claimed and still to this day refuses to meet with any minority leaders in Alaska. Even though ALL the past governors of Alaska have had at least one meeting with them. On a number of occasions she has been asked to meet and has flat out refused. This is not hear say it is straight from the horses mouth. She is willing to drag a small baby with a disability all over the country and not spend the time required bonding and giving her son a stable home life with his mother now attendants. All I want to say is vote for a president not vice president. Whom ever you choose make sure that you are fully informed on the facts and yes there are over 60,000 black people in Alaska for those who don’t know we don’t all support Palin. I love the thought of a woman being vp I just don’t think she’s the right one. I know my husband family whom happens to be blended with both black and native Alaskan agree.
Concerned Alaskan

Posted by: Latoya | September 14, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm

This really had to make liberal ABC news headlines did it? Too funny. Sounds like a bunch of whinners to me, because Hillary got tossed under the bus by NObama you don’t like Sarah. Well you know what I think in 2012 it will be Palin-Clinton. You know I’m also sick of hearing about McCain’s age. 72 is not that old in this day and age and age certainly gives you experience. NObama is an elitist snob on an ego trip. Are you ready to bury your parents at that age or yourselves? Sandy very good comment. I live in Florida and have been watching the case. You know you can teach your children all the right values, but you don’t know what will happen in that the back seat of a Chevy so stop judging Sarah on her daughter. In Alaska it’s legal for a minor to get an abortion and Bristol could have done that, but instead she told her mom and I think that’s great. Sarah is down to earth and I like that. Smart of NObama to keep a muzzle on that wife of his. McCain/Palin08

Posted by: Dixie | September 14, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm

Hi Sandy,
I respect your right to vote for who ever you feel represents your issues the best. The problem for me is John McCain could have chosen Joe Lieberman. He wanted to and I would have more respect for him as a “Maverick” if he had, but his choice proves to me he is anything but. He needed to pull in the religious right and it appears to me that that is how he made his decision. Obama didn’t let anyone force him to chose someone he didn’t want. I started out for Hillary and now I am totally on board with Obama.
Its not about liking or disliking. He has not represented the issues I care about in the state of Arizona and so I have a point of reference to know he is not suddenly going to care about these issues if he is President.
I guess we will have to respectfully agree to disagree and pray that the best man/women for the job wins.

Posted by: Sarah | September 14, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm

I am a 70 year old retired US History teacher. I have always voted for the person regardless of party. I was all set to vote for McCain until he selected his running mate. Did he really think he could dupe the women of this country into voting for Palin? Come on, any intelligent person can see what he had in mind. Can you see her sitting across the table with leaders of the world talking about the latest soccer game or the color of her new lipstick? Fluff, not substance is what I see. Guess with that, Obama gets my vote or maybe someone will start a write in campaign for Mitt Romney. Remember the vice-president is only a heartbeat away from being the leader of this great country!

Posted by: Sue | September 14, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm

Well, look at this–an Australian paper tells it like it is. So how many McCain/Palin voters are ready for MORE WAR? Wondering why the economy is going down the drain? Read on…and pass it on please!
Iraq war ’caused slowdown in the US’
I
Peter Wilson, Europe correspondent | February 28, 2008
THE Iraq war has cost the US 50-60 times more than the Bush administration predicted and was a central cause of the sub-prime banking crisis threatening the world economy, according to Nobel Prize-winning economist Joseph Stiglitz.
The former World Bank vice-president yesterday said the war had, so far, cost the US something like $US3trillion ($3.3 trillion) compared with the $US50-$US60-billion predicted in 2003.
Australia also faced a real bill much greater than the $2.2billion in military spending reported last week by Australian Defence Force chief Angus Houston, Professor Stiglitz said, pointing to higher oil prices and other indirect costs of the wars.
Professor Stiglitz told the Chatham House think tank in London that the Bush White House was currently estimating the cost of the war at about $US500 billion, but that figure massively understated things such as the medical and welfare costs of US military servicemen.
The war was now the second-most expensive in US history after World War II and the second-longest after Vietnam, he said.
The spending on Iraq was a hidden cause of the current credit crunch because the US central bank responded to the massive financial drain of the war by flooding the American economy with cheap credit.
“The regulators were looking the other way and money was being lent to anybody this side of a life-support system,” he said.
That led to a housing bubble and a consumption boom, and the fallout was plunging the US economy into recession and saddling the next US president with the biggest budget deficit in history, he said.
Professor Stiglitz, an academic at the Columbia Business School and a former economic adviser to president Bill Clinton, said a further $US500 billion was going to be spent on the fighting in the next two years and that could have been used more effectively to improve the security and quality of life of Americans and the rest of the world.
The money being spent on the war each week would be enough to wipe out illiteracy around the world, he said.
Just a few days’ funding would be enough to provide health insurance for US children who were not covered, he said.
The public had been encouraged by the White House to ignore the costs of the war because of the belief that the war would somehow pay for itself or be paid for by Iraqi oil or US allies.
“When the Bush administration went to war in Iraq it obviously didn’t focus very much on the cost. Larry Lindsey, the chief economic adviser, said the cost was going to be between $US100billion and $US200 billion – and for that slight moment of quasi-honesty he was fired.
“(Then defence secretary Donald) Rumsfeld responded and said ‘baloney’, and the number the administration came up with was $US50 to $US60 billion. We have calculated that the cost was more like $US3 trillion.
“Three trillion is a very conservative number, the true costs are likely to be much larger than that.”
Five years after the war, the US was still spending about $US50billion every three months on direct military costs, he said.
Professor Stiglitz and another Clinton administration economist, Linda Bilmes, have produced a book, The Three Trillion Dollar War, pulling together their research on the true cost of the war, which does not include the cost to Iraq.
One of the greatest discrepancies is that the official figures do not include the long-term healthcare and social benefits for injured servicemen, who are surviving previously fatal attacks because of improved body armour.
“The ratio of injuries to fatalities in a normal war is 2:1. In this war they admitted to 7:1 but a true number is (something) like 15:1.”
Some 100,000 servicemen have been diagnosed with serious psychological problems and the soldiers doing the most tours of duty have not yet returned.
Professor Stiglitz attributed to the Iraq war $US5-$US10 of the almost $US80-a-barrel increase in oil prices since the start of the war, adding that it would have been reasonable to attribute more than $US35 of that rise to the war.
He said the British bill for its role in the war was about 20 times the pound stg. 1billion ($2.1 billion) that former prime minister Tony Blair estimated before the war.
The British Government was yesterday ordered to release details of its planning for the war, when the country’s Information Commissioner backed a Freedom of Information request for the minutes of two cabinet meetings in the days before the war.
Commissioner Richard Thomas said that because of the importance of the decision to go to war, the public interest in disclosing the minutes outweighed the public interest in withholding the information.
THE Iraq war has cost the US 50-60 times more than the Bush administration predicted and was a central cause of the sub-prime banking crisis threatening the world economy, according to Nobel Prize-winning economist Joseph Stiglitz.
The former World Bank vice-president yesterday said the war had, so far, cost the US something like $US3trillion ($3.3 trillion) compared with the $US50-$US60-billion predicted in 2003.
Australia also faced a real bill much greater than the $2.2billion in military spending reported last week by Australian Defence Force chief Angus Houston, Professor Stiglitz said, pointing to higher oil prices and other indirect costs of the wars.
Professor Stiglitz told the Chatham House think tank in London that the Bush White House was currently estimating the cost of the war at about $US500 billion, but that figure massively understated things such as the medical and welfare costs of US military servicemen.
The war was now the second-most expensive in US history after World War II and the second-longest after Vietnam, he said.
The spending on Iraq was a hidden cause of the current credit crunch because the US central bank responded to the massive financial drain of the war by flooding the American economy with cheap credit.
“The regulators were looking the other way and money was being lent to anybody this side of a life-support system,” he said.
That led to a housing bubble and a consumption boom, and the fallout was plunging the US economy into recession and saddling the next US president with the biggest budget deficit in history, he said.
Professor Stiglitz, an academic at the Columbia Business School and a former economic adviser to president Bill Clinton, said a further $US500 billion was going to be spent on the fighting in the next two years and that could have been used more effectively to improve the security and quality of life of Americans and the rest of the world.
The money being spent on the war each week would be enough to wipe out illiteracy around the world, he said.
Just a few days’ funding would be enough to provide health insurance for US children who were not covered, he said.
The public had been encouraged by the White House to ignore the costs of the war because of the belief that the war would somehow pay for itself or be paid for by Iraqi oil or US allies.
“When the Bush administration went to war in Iraq it obviously didn’t focus very much on the cost. Larry Lindsey, the chief economic adviser, said the cost was going to be between $US100billion and $US200 billion – and for that slight moment of quasi-honesty he was fired.
“(Then defence secretary Donald) Rumsfeld responded and said ‘baloney’, and the number the administration came up with was $US50 to $US60 billion. We have calculated that the cost was more like $US3 trillion.
“Three trillion is a very conservative number, the true costs are likely to be much larger than that.”
Five years after the war, the US was still spending about $US50billion every three months on direct military costs, he said.
Professor Stiglitz and another Clinton administration economist, Linda Bilmes, have produced a book, The Three Trillion Dollar War, pulling together their research on the true cost of the war, which does not include the cost to Iraq.
One of the greatest discrepancies is that the official figures do not include the long-term healthcare and social benefits for injured servicemen, who are surviving previously fatal attacks because of improved body armour.
“The ratio of injuries to fatalities in a normal war is 2:1. In this war they admitted to 7:1 but a true number is (something) like 15:1.”
Some 100,000 servicemen have been diagnosed with serious psychological problems and the soldiers doing the most tours of duty have not yet returned.
Professor Stiglitz attributed to the Iraq war $US5-$US10 of the almost $US80-a-barrel increase in oil prices since the start of the war, adding that it would have been reasonable to attribute more than $US35 of that rise to the war.
He said the British bill for its role in the war was about 20 times the pound stg. 1billion ($2.1 billion) that former prime minister Tony Blair estimated before the war.
The British Government was yesterday ordered to release details of its planning for the war, when the country’s Information Commissioner backed a Freedom of Information request for the minutes of two cabinet meetings in the days before the war.
Commissioner Richard Thomas said that because of the importance of the decision to go to war, the public interest in disclosing the minutes outweighed the public interest in withholding the information.

Posted by: Lamb | September 15, 2008, 12:54 am 12:54 am

Hi Sandy, Yeah, I would have loved to see McCain pick Lieberman too, lol. Or at the very least, Tom Ridge. But he did pick Sarah Palin, and while I am still learning about her, I do find her strong and refreshing. Keep working for your candidate, he is lucky to have you onboard. Cheers!

Posted by: Sandy Diana | September 15, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am

Sarah, the above message is for you. Sorry, it’s late out here. Take care.

Posted by: Sandy Diana | September 15, 2008, 1:06 am 1:06 am

I’m shocked and saddened at the ugliness of most of these postings. The number of people on here saying that women who don’t support Palin must be ugly or lesbians is revolting. Same old tired arguments that were used against the suffragettes in fact.
Incredible sexism in action. And the smugness and meanness and mocking tone with which it’s being said is truly awful. And yet I’m sure most of those posters think that they’re good “Christians.” Jesus had more humility and charity in one hair on his head than all of you do put together.
You should truly be ashamed of yoursleves.
Furthermore, I hate to burst your bubble but I am a very attractive woman who is against Palin. And guess what? My attractiveness has nothing to do with how I’m voting. Nor should Palin’s physical appearance have anything to do with support for her.
I’m against her because she tried to BAN BOOKS, and when she couldn’t, she tried to fire the librarian who opposed her scheme, because she made rape victims PAY FOR THEIR OWN RAPE KITS, because she spent $400,000 for an aerial wolf-killing initiative but refused to fund a shelter for HOMELESS MOTHERS AND CHILDREN.
The hypocrisy and vindictiveness of these items is terrifying to me. She wants to ban abortion even in cases of rape and incest but then not support women with children who have no home.
To Sandy Diana, I ask you this, how can you possibly vote for a ticket that stands diametrically opposed to Hillary Clinton’s values? I’m trying hard to believe that you were once a Hillary supporter but find it difficult knowing what Palin stands for.
I’d welcome hearing your thoughts on how that happened.
As for your checks and balances comments, I suggest you also try to remember civics class: SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE.
Anyone who wants to legislate for the nation based on their own religious beliefs, is an affront to our founding fathers. And untlimately, that is why as a registered Independent, I’m voting for Obama/Biden.

Posted by: lisat | September 15, 2008, 1:12 am 1:12 am

I hope you all vote for McCain and you continue losing your jobs and your homes because we have been able to buy homes at a great rate without bias and maybe you will have to move back to the ghetto.

Posted by: Clyde R. Hoffman | September 15, 2008, 1:56 am 1:56 am

the responses on here from the Palin supporters are so sad. this VP nomination is a complete embarrassment to all of us. is ignorance really bliss? not in this case. i don’t think so. wake up america !!!

Posted by: palinscaresme | September 15, 2008, 3:43 am 3:43 am

You crazy ### people have any you served in the military? You Libs talk a good talk but are never willing to walk the walk.

Posted by: r Sykosky | September 15, 2008, 5:50 am 5:50 am

I haven’t read ALL the responses because frankly, time is money and I don’t have time reading the responses of Christian fundamentalist, Taliban wannabees. Make no mistake about it, I am a Christian, have been one for 45 years of my life, am a mother and wife of 25 years, have a large family. HOW DARE Sarah Palin and the GOP characterize themselves as the party of “family values”; they are the exact opposite of that. Try liars, cheaters, and hypocrites to the max, commiters of sacrilege by hijacking our religion of Christianity and claiming it as their own domain and using God and Jesus as their office mascot. This alone is unbelievable! Now they present us with a woman who shoots wolves via low flying planes and snipers. This is not “hunting”, this is shooting fish in a barrel. Secondly, this woman can take her anti-woman stance and beliefs and shove it up where the sun doesn’t shine. She can take the “it’s a task from God” cr*p and stick that up there too. Under no circumstance, should this looney-toon be anywhere near secret little buttons that will send us all to Nuclear Holocaust just because she wants to speed up Armeggedon and rapture due to her fundamentalist beliefs. And one more thing, to you Christian conservative women, how dare you turn against your fellow sisters, the ones that you claim to be your sisters in Christ by falling for this Eva Perrone wannebee, who wants power for herself, and nothing less, by portraying herself as some sort of hockey mom. Yeah, she’s a hockey mom from hell. If my choice was Palin or Beelzebub, I’d choose Beelzebub; at least you know where you stand with him.

Posted by: maicde | September 15, 2008, 9:31 am 9:31 am

We don’t want Hillary liberal freak women. Palin is a real woman. They are the ones who hate men, and GOD so much they kill unborn babies. Look at our family structure. We shouldn’t pay for unwanted pregnancies either stop fooling around period if you don’t want babies or take BC and pay for it yourself.None of you want to take your own responsibility in anything and try to force us to pay for all your misdeeds. Their is no global warming it is GOD made and if you think the rest of us won’t pay for your filth well we will have to so this is one conservative sister who prays for all you. We blame us for not stopping you for the filth you teach in our schools, the teachers you can’t fire, the TV shows and movies that can even show a cartoon anymore without nudity or sexual pervertions. Your Democratic platform is trying to make everything gender neutral take away our freedom of religion like you did out of the schools, and try and take away our decorations for christmas. Well behold the power of GOD work through MCCain/ Palin presidency. The power of prayer will surely make you all more frenzied, and than the Palin selection did.
My 4th child serves in Iraq and they all vote Rep..And 6 other Hillary girls have switched.. told prayers work..hahaha

Posted by: debbie | September 15, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am

We don’t want Hillary liberal freak women. Palin is a real woman. They are the ones who hate men, and GOD so much they kill unborn babies. Look at our family structure. We shouldn’t pay for unwanted pregnancies either stop fooling around period if you don’t want babies or take BC and pay for it yourself.None of you want to take your own responsibility in anything and try to force us to pay for all your misdeeds. Their is no global warming it is GOD made and if you think the rest of us won’t pay for your filth well we will have to so this is one conservative sister who prays for all you. We blame us for not stopping you for the filth you teach in our schools, the teachers you can’t fire, the TV shows and movies that can even show a cartoon anymore without nudity or sexual pervertions. Your Democratic platform is trying to make everything gender neutral take away our freedom of religion like you did out of the schools, and try and take away our decorations for christmas. Well behold the power of GOD work through MCCain/ Palin presidency. The power of prayer will surely make you all more frenzied, and than the Palin selection did.
My 4th child serves in Iraq and they all vote Rep..And 6 other Hillary girls have switched.. told prayers work..hahaha

Posted by: debbie | September 15, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am

Hi Lisa, Thanks for taking the time to respond to my message (and for keeping it civil, lol. Civil Discourse can be so messy, sometimes:))
Please tell me where, in any of my posts, I mentioned or discussed separation of church and state, and whether I am for it or against it. I notice you capitalized it in your response to me. I want to understand why.
Secondly, please forgive me, to all who have read and responded to this previous post, but I am going to reprint it here to answer Lisa. Thank you for your patience:
My husband and I left the party because we are the “bitter old white people clinging to our guns and God”. We left the party in June after the violation of
three million voters in Florida and Michigan. Where were the writers of this site? Where was all the indignation over the silencing of three million American votes?
Where was their outrage?
Or are these women, like so many others, expecting me, after having my vote violated, to thank my violaters, by voting for their party?
Where was my party when WE needed it? Where were these ladies? Or don’t they think the violation of three millions voters and the sexist treatment of Hillary has anything to do with them?
We are not voting for John McCain merely because of Sarah Palin, whom we do like and find very refreshing, even if we do not agree with her on many issues. We left the party in June after the violation of three million voters in Florida and Michigan, which we fought for for several months. Personally, I would have preferred Lieberman or Tom Ridge. But we have liked John McCain since 2000, when he stood on his integrity during the abysmal Republican primary against GWB; we respect McCain for his service to our country and trust him and his integrity. We are voting country over party. His acceptance speech made me weep. It reminded me of the great hope of America.
MCCAIN 08
Hillary 2012″
Many folk have responded to me and while not agreeing with me, have articulated their reasons with dignity and respect.
Lisa, I have a few questions for you:
Why does everything come down to abortion?
Do you believe a woman can be both a feminist and prolife?
Where were you when 3 million votes were violated in order to make sure that Senator Obama won the Dem primary? Where was your outrage then?
I am a prochoice, progun, DRILL, BABY, DRILL, non-party affilated old lady. I CHOOSE (there’s that pesky word again!) to vote for John McCain because I trust and respect him, his integrity, and his service to our country.
If you are attempting to change my mind, may I suggest you use your life force for something else?–perhaps blogging out all the reasons YOU believe your candidate is the BEST person for the job. It’s a much more positive use of energy.
I look forward to reading your answers to my questions, Lisa. Thanks.
McCain 08
Hillary 2012

Posted by: Sandy Diana | September 15, 2008, 10:30 am 10:30 am

Read the blogs above. It is scary to see how many stupid ignorant people there are who think that this no nothing Sarah Palin would make a great VP! GOD FORBID Sandy…

Posted by: asw | September 15, 2008, 11:18 am 11:18 am

Hi Sandy Diana,
You wrote a comment yesterday about the importance of checks and balances. I completely agree with you on that. The problem is that we do not know how congress is going to turn out after this election. Just because it is Democrat now does not mean it will stay that way. What if we end up with McCain and a republican congress?

Posted by: Jeff | September 15, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am

I am scared to death by Sarah Palin. A woman who uses her power to get even with people should not be leading this country.

Posted by: Jeff | September 15, 2008, 11:52 am 11:52 am

I have read about some far right Evangelists stating that Sarah Palin was “chosen by God”. If that is true, she is probably the catalyst for our country’s big fall as a superpower. It happened to the Romans, so it is bound to happen to us at some point.

Posted by: Steve | September 15, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am

I had been considering McCain as a candidate, especially after Hillary was not picked. When I heard that he had chosen a woman, I was very intrigued. She seemed beautiful, poised and articulate. When I heard that she had a child with Down Syndrome, I thought, “Wow, she could be a great advocate for people with disabilities.”
Unfortunately, the more I read about Sarah Palin, the more I realized how wrong my first impression was. I hate to say this, but she is a conniving snake. She fires people when they don’t agree with her, and sometimes to get even. I watched her interviews, and she is slick! She carries herself beautifully, yet she does not answer the important questions about her past actions as mayor or governor.
By selecting Palin, McCain proved that he is no Maverick at all. I am so disappointed in him for making his VP choice solely to draw in more votes from the Evangelical and gun enthusiasts, and some uninformed women. I have come to realize that the only right vote for our country is Obama/Biden.

Posted by: Linda | September 15, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm

Jeff, then we must campaign and support our candidates of choice! What if we end up with a Dem congress and Dem Pres? Personally, that would be just as bad (I am voting Dem on most of my lower ticket–ssshhhhh–don’t tell anybody, I dont’ want my crusty old lady credentials to be rescinded, lol) But remember, after all this is settled, no matter who wins, we will all have to help each other.
My friends (lol!) I really like John McCain. I’ve liked and respected him since 2000 and have followed his career with great interest. My mind is made up. Had the Dems not kicked 3 million voters off their team in order to make sure their candidate of choice was their candidate, as opposed to him winning the Primary FAIRLY, I would be honoring the will of my party and voting for Obama, though Senator McCain has always had my deep respect. I probably would not have considered him in all those dark months so many of us fought day and night to get the votes counted…but my party didn’t listen and many members of my party all fought tooth and nail to make sure that the votes wouldn’t count. This horrible violation of the will of the people opened my eyes to all other candidates, but in the end, John McCain won my heart.
Linda, I appreciate your opinion and choice, with which I respectfully disagree. However, we may be on the same side come 2012 when Hillary runs again and if the old white guys in the Dem party allow all the votes to be counted this time and put aside their sexist/racist obesseion. Cheers to ya, girl!
McCain 08
Hillary 2012

Posted by: Sandy Diana | September 15, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm

Hi asw, you know you are entitled to your opinion, but why be mean about it?
It’s your vote and your choice of whom to vote for. But please, can you try not to insult those who are not voting for your candidate? It would make the world a much more civil place. Of course, it’s your life and your choice, but why be part of the problem?
McCain 08
Hillary 2012

Posted by: Sandy Diana | September 15, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm

Below you will see information defining an “Energy Expert”. The reason I sought out this information is because John McCain continues to refer to Sarah Palin as the “top Energy Expert in the USA.” In reviewing the resume provided by the Republican party, Sarah Palin holds none of the degrees or job related experience required to claim this title and it alarms me that John McCain continues to say it.
To see the video go to You Tube and search for
McCain: Palin Is Top Energy Expert In US, Understands Russi
Dear Inquirer,
Thank you for your inquiry concerning energy experts.
We do not have a listing of the “top energy expert” that you were
seeking.
Hope this information helps. Please contact us again if you need
further assistance with energy data or statistics.
Bill Horvath
Energy Information Administration
(202)586-8800
william.horvath@eia.doe.gov
My question is:
Please define an what makes someone an energy expert? What are the
qualifications/education requirements? Who is the top energy expert(s)
in the USA?

Posted by: Sarah | September 15, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm

Sorry. I couldn’t get the address to post so here is the definition of an Energy Expert from the Energy Information Administration Official Energy Statistics for the U.S. Government.
Who Qualifies?
While we prefer degrees in mathematics, statistics, economics, operations research and engineering for entry-level positions, degrees in social sciences or business are okay too, especially if you have an emphasis on statistical data gathering and analysis. We are also looking for graduates who have taken courses in regression and linear modeling, exploratory data analysis, and in econometrics. Beyond the technical qualifications, EIA seeks intelligent, flexible and motivated employees who have good team skills and who like to think critically, innovate and solve problems. And if you are a talented writer, so much the better! U.S. citizenship is required.
Learn more about EIA and the benefits of working with us.

Posted by: Sarah | September 15, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm

If Obama picked Clinton, the Republicans would have said that he was playing the gender card. The only reason Palin was picked because she is a woman. She didn’t blink when she was asked to be VP. She didn’t take into consideration her family, her job as Gov. of Alaska or the fact the fact that she’s not ready for the job. Christian conservatives who live in her small town in Alaska won’t even vote for her. Think about it.

Posted by: sue | September 15, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm

Ms Palin is female. That is why she is running on the ticket. Such a violation to our intelligence, and our brothers intelligence, that Mr. McCain would play out this plan with a cocky assurance that people would vote for him.
Well Mr. McCain, you do NOT get my vote. You WILL NOT receive my sisters vote. You do NOT deserve my daughters vote.
Ms. Palin is NOT capable of running a small town let alone a country. People- please read what is out there, what is known and what is NOT known about her. This is NOT a game. We are in it for our basic rights as human beings. DEMOCRATS FOR A BETTER TOMORROW, DEMOCRATS FOR A CHANGE!!

Posted by: chris | September 15, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm

Ms Palin is female. That is why she is running on the ticket. Such a violation to our intelligence, and our brothers intelligence, that Mr. McCain would play out this plan with a cocky assurance that people would vote for him.
Well Mr. McCain, you do NOT get my vote. You WILL NOT receive my sisters vote. You do NOT deserve my daughters vote.
Ms. Palin is NOT capable of running a small town let alone a country. People- please read what is out there, what is known and what is NOT known about her. This is NOT a game. We are in it for our basic rights as human beings. DEMOCRATS FOR A BETTER TOMORROW, DEMOCRATS FOR A CHANGE!!

Posted by: chris | September 15, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm

I just saw an Italian blog talking about the eventuality of a campaign against abortion that might start with a provocative ad.
here is the link of the blog
http://www.sorelleditalia.net/2008/09/15/bucato-a-mano

Posted by: adrian | September 15, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

There is no little bottom to push to send us anywhere. Cant go to war without approvel. Everyone says McCain wont last he will die she will take over. What makes you think Obama will make if he wins. There entire middle country out there that ppl forget about. I am sick of hearing because Paln is a Mom of 5 she cant do it. Why not. Thats the most horrable thing I have ever heard. I also find it awful that woman groups are not standing up for her due that she is pro-life. She is a woman who worked to get where she is. THe only thing Hilary did was marry a man. Biden is a singel dad so he can not do the job either. His state has less ppl then Alaska so he cant do the job either. Obama does not have much more experince then she does. Obama will bring solcism to our country. If that what you want go to china. As far as his taxes im not rich by far and everyone says republican only give tax brakes to the rich. i have gotten a rebate check every year since Bush. He wants to change that. Also why should i give what i have worked very very hard to for to someone who wants to be lazy. Im sick of handouts. Get up and do something for your self. Im tired of helping ppl who can do it them selfs but wont. If someone is able to make millions a year cause they went for it why the hell not. Why should we take it from them cause some jerk off in the hood didnt finish highschool and would rather be on welfare.

Posted by: Sick of it | September 15, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm

Perhaps the long-desired, coaxed, cajoled Rapture will come for these fundamentalist jihadists (of all religions) before November and Ms. Palin will simply go away. And the rest of us, left behind, will breathe a sigh of relief.
America means separation of church and state. Ms. Palin and the rest of these neo con men and women can’t abide by that. They’ll get their self-sanctified little claws all up in the Constitution until we’re all eyes wide shut at a MegaChurch or a MegaMall…same difference.

Posted by: pokesalad annie | September 15, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm

If you read the newspapers this morning, and I’m not referring to the “liberal press”, it seems to me that it is time we stopped sniping at one another….calling each other names…insulting our opposition’s views on either McCain/Palin or Obama/Biden, and really look at what is happening in this country this very instant.
Hurricane Ike has left a huge area of our Gulf Coast devastated. Inundated by water and sitting in sweltering darkness, with a dawn-to-dusk curfew in effect, and still, some 36 hours after Ike made landfall, no emergency federal disaster aid has made it into Houston. Is this not reminiscent of the Katrina fiasco when local New Orleans residents were basically left to fend for themselves while the Washington establishment, both Democrats and Republicans, comfortably attended cocktail parties?
The other big headline today is that Lehman Brothers, an institution which I believe has been in existance for over 150 years is declaring bankruptcy; Merrill Lynch has been bought out by Bank of America, saving it from financial failure; and AIG is probably the next big financial/insurance group to hit the rocks.
Now I’m not laying all the blame for these disasters at the feet of the current administration…but the lack of a proactive response to all of these foreseeable problems leads me to believe that they either don’t care about the potential fall-out of these or any other future crises on the average, run-of-the-mill American, or they can’t plan ahead enough to deal with these types of disasters, thus sparing its citizens the economic or personal suffering that many of these occurences have caused us.
If we can’t see that it is time to look for CHANGE, to at least give some other group a chance to show us what they can do to make this a government “for, by and of the people” once again, then we truly deserve to have our civil rights amended with impunity, our economic basis eroded by greedy, but irresponsible corporations, and our personal lives disrupted by disasters which we must learn to deal with on our own!
This election is not about deciding whether we think Sarah Palin is qualified for the second highest job in this land or whether it is important that Barrack Obama is the first black presidential candidate in U.S. history….it IS about finding a new approach to getting our government back to serving the people who work and live and die for it every day. And in my humble opinion, the Republicans have shown over the past 8 years that they can’t or won’t do that!

Posted by: SLHB | September 15, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm

Interestingly, my sons had a conversation several months ago regarding Hillary. My 9 year old said, “I hope she becomes president because we have never had a woman president.” My 12 year old’s response was, “Well you can’t pick someone just because they are a woman – she has to be the right person for the job.” Now, if a 12-year-old can figure this out, why can’t McCain?

Posted by: Ellen | September 15, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

Palin is really pretty for a conservative square head. She doesn’t know that the Bush doctrine means “first strike” on other nations is our new forgien policy, but she’s really pretty. She Thinks the earth is 6,000 years old, but she’s really pretty. She governs the smallest populated state in the USA, but she’s really pretty. She wants to revert back to coat hanger aborations for desperate women, but she’s really pretty. She can spew out the same old nasty conservative rhetoric as the good ole’ boys do without even using a telepromter, but she’s really pretty. She can’t think outside of the box that conseravtives call a head, but she is really pretty. If I was going to vote for someone who was really pretty. I’d vote for her. But, I don’t vote for pretty. I vote for be most qualified and she is NOT!

Posted by: Mr. Independent | September 15, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm

Ellen, you mean why can’t the Democrat party figure it out, don’t you, lol?

Posted by: Sandy Diana | September 15, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm

I want to thank ABC News for allowing this open forum and for the free bandwidth. I also appreciate very much everyone who chose to respond to me with thoughtfulness and respectful passion. You all help me to understand.
I wish you all well. God Bless. Sandy Diana

Posted by: Sandy Diana | September 15, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm

To Sandy Diana,
Lisat here. Hmm, I’m more than a little confused my your repsonse to my post.
I did not, in fact, concentrate on abortion at all in my post. I must confess that I find it disingenous of you to say that I did, it is very clear that I did not.
If you’ll take a moment to reread it, you’ll see I mention three other subjects, as well as abortion. AND, I mentioned abortion only in terms of Palin’s hypocrisy in being anti-choice, but line-item vetoing money for a shelter for women with children.
Please do not distort my words.
As to your first question, yes, I do believe a woman can be both a feminist and anti-choice, as long as this is her private decision for herself and her own life and she is not trying to put her opinion on the matter into law. I myself have never, and would never, have an abortion. That does not mean, however, that I think my own opinion and the choice I would make, should be the choice forced upon all women…especially those who have been violated by rape and incest, as Mrs. Palin would do.
As to where I was when the states that decided to change their Democratic primaries without authorization, I was upset about the stupidity of it all. But the fact remains that those states had no business deciding that they were going to change the dates of their primaries without going through the proper channels to do so. This is not an anarchy and people cannot decide to thumb your noses at the way things are set up and not expect repurcussions, much as I found it upsetting as a Hilary supporter.
Fine that they wanted the primaries changed. So then work towards that for next election. Again, sadly misguided.
It seems that you are assuming that I am a Democrat. I am not. I have been a registered Independent from the time I could first vote at 18 and still am 20 years later.
Am I to assume that you were equally outraged that the Supreme Court appointed Bush in 2000? Where were you when Florida, in the hands of Jeb Bush, gave the election to George Bush? Are you equally outraged that the votes of many people in Florida were not counted due to blockades of minority neighborhoods? To me, that is much more horrendous than a group of people who brought it upon themselves by flagrantly disobeying the party’s rules.
It is most upsetting that so many voters had to pay the price for others’ shortsightedness this election year. However, turning around and voting for McCain/Palin due to this sounds like cutting off your nose to spite your face.
According to nonpartisan groups, and Alan Greenspan, McCain’s tax plan will hurt the middle class even more, as did Bush’s, while Obama’s will give the 81% of us who don’t make over $250,000 a break. That’s as big a deal to me as allowing a woman to control her own body is, Sandy D.
Moving on, I put SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE in caps because it is a critical issue. Our country was founded on it and Palin respresents the mindset that her own religious views should be made law: creationism in public schools, abstinence only being taught in the classroom, and her comments about how the Alaska pipeline is the “will of God.”
According to the fundamentalists in the Middle East, 9/11 was also the will of their God and I find it VERY upsetting to hear people throwing around that phrase in the public sphere, and then using it as a justification for their beliefs.
It gives them a false moral high ground. If you state that the Alaskan pipeline is the “will of God” then you cast everyone who disagrees with you as Godless. I find that highly offensive. Mrs. Palin is not a conduit to God and as a spritual person I find her using her religion in that manner objectionable. I find saying something like the pipeline is the will of God, to be completely self-serving and despicable.
Furthermore, the fact that you like Sarah Palin although you don’t agree with her on many issues, as you stated, is, to me, part of the problem with this country.
It is the issues that count. You are not going out to lunch with the candidates, you are entrusting the country to them.
Also, I ask you to keep in mind that it is a FACT, a matter of public reecord, that John McCain voted aginst the “equal pay for women” act. Again it is a matter of public record that he has voted with Bush 90% of the time.
You did not answer my original question so I’ll ask it again: How do you, who purport to have been a Hilary supporter, vote for a ticket that has exactly opposite values from her?
Moreover, I am not trying to change your mind, Sandy D. Is that what you’re doing on here, trying to change the minds of others? After all, you’re on here posting your opinions and writing back and forth to others as well.
My intention is public discourse on what I consider to be the most important election of my lifetime. What’s yours?

Posted by: lisat | September 15, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm

I have never in my life been so scared of a presidential election! Can any reasonable person think that this woman is qualified to be president!!

Posted by: Jura Mohen | September 15, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm

Hi Jura,
I have been thinking the very same thing and what makes her even more scary is that I think she truly believes she is ready and or that she can bluff her way though what ever comes up, because I think she has in the past. She has an extremely narrow view of the world, which may work in Alaska, but for a world leader. It is frightening.
In answer to your question…no, no reasonable person can think that she is qualified.

Posted by: Sarah | September 15, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm

The question isnt if sarah palin is ready to become president, the question is if a certifiable fruitcake like this creatiure, whatever her gender, should be considered for dog cather. I still hope I shall wake up and this whole thing will be a hige joke. How dare she claim to speak for women !

Posted by: sandra | September 15, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm

It is amazing to me to read through these posts and think that half of the men that have posted on here in a very conservative light have a clue what women’s rights are. The tone of your messages are ridiculous. I am not saying that every men has an idea what women want…there are a few out there that may have a clue…but they only understand because they open their ears and listen to what women in their lives have to say…but that is not the majority.
Let’s get back to the issues….
So, let’s say it’s a race only on the issue of abortion and your daughter was raped at the age of 14 by a close friend of the family. What is your reaction? Are you going to require her to quit school so you can hide her at home? After a McCain/Palin election is she going to disobey you and go have an illegal abortion on her own in an alley of Alaska? Will she survive?
A McCain/Palin win will mean that these issues are discussions around your family dinner table…with your kids…on your watch…
What will you say? This would be a great time to have that birds/bees discussion that wasn’t taught in school.

Posted by: Kage | September 16, 2008, 12:24 am 12:24 am

It’s not enough to vote. Everyone please read this article from “06: http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election_stolen
And for the people on here claiming that Obama has web-puppets, or that these posts are written by just a few: your posts are actually similar in tone/message but with different usernames.

Posted by: bsweet | September 16, 2008, 12:36 am 12:36 am

Breaking News and Commentary from Citizens For Legitimate Government
10 Sep 2008
http://www.legitgov.org/
All items are here:
http://www.legitgov.org/#breaking_news
Lipstick Smear: Obama Assails ‘Latest Made-Up Controversy by the John McCain Campaign’ 10 Sep 2008 In Norfolk, Va., this morning, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., directly took on the false charge by Sen. John McCain’s campaign that Obama had called Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin a pig. Obama called it “the latest made-up controversy by the John McCain campaign.” [Pigs, outraged, protest! Do *not* compare us to sociopath Sarah Palin! No animal wants to be compared with Caribou Barbie! You can put lipstick on a polar bear-killing terrorist and it's still a polar bear-killing terrorist. --LRP]
Sarah Palin Eaten by Polar Bear [] by godblessthedead 09 Sep 2008 Security guards and fellow hunters out for a day’s sport along with Alaska Governor Sarah Palin watched in helpless horror yesterday afternoon as a large polar bear (Ursus maritimus) suddenly emerged from the trees, gobbled up the Republican Vice-Presidential candidate in one bite, dashed back into the forest, and escaped before anyone could do anything about it. “Bears are highly intelligent,” explained a Greenpeace spokesperson, “and it seems that this one acted on his own initiative.” (Satire! But I can dream, can’t I?)

Posted by: Klare | September 16, 2008, 1:54 am 1:54 am

How can you respect someone who snidely belittles community organizers? This country was founded by COMMUNITY ORGANIZERS.If Ms. Palin is qualified WHY has she been sheltered from the media, oh what a field day would be had if Joe Biden refused to answer guestions from anyone.I am a middle aged white female who is not afraid of an intelligent well spoken half BLACK half WHITE man.I am afraid of the lack of intelligence displayed by sooo many eligible voters in this country.I want a leader who will take on the issues facing us, the war in iraq,the energy crisis, health care,our declining education system,the economy,global warming ,our standing in the world,and last but not least the decline of the middle class who ends up footing the bill for every stupid decision our goverment makes. When the news is dominated by lipstick on a pig I am sickened.Wake up America.We as a nation have been screwed by our leaders and the news media. I need a real change, not the pennies the republicans have left me with. From a registered female republican in Delaware

Posted by: Liz | September 16, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am

Sandy Diana,
I believe the reason so many people are questioning you is that you claim to be such a strong Hillary supporter. Why do you suddenly go against everything Hillary stands for and choose McCain/Palin? Hillary would be outraged if she knew you were doing this because of her. You need to think hard about your true beliefs. If it turns out that you truly do not support Hillary’s views, them perhaps McCain/Palin is the right choice for you. Please think long and hard about this.

Posted by: Christine | September 16, 2008, 10:27 am 10:27 am

Everyone stop the bickering and see the facts – a vote for McCain/Palin – is a vote against not only women but our children. She wants to take sex education out of schools and put in the homes, because obviously she did such a great job of teaching her children the responsibilities of sex. This will not solve the problem but increase the amount of teenage preganancies as well as STD’s and AIDS amongst children across this country – is that the future you want for your children? She is for women paying for their own rape kits at the hospital – as if a rape victom had not already been thru enough.
Let’s all stop this constant chattering about Palin and force McCain to talk about the real issues – which as long as you are all stuck on lipstick and fashion – are getting ignored -which is exactly what McCain wants because then he does not have to explain his plans for the country and his supporters will sit there shocked when nothing in this country changes if he is elected. We can’t let that happen. Educate yourselves see what Palin really stands for and recognize her lies she is telling the American population and don’t let her get away with it. It is time for a change – OBAMA this country needs you!

Posted by: Jen | September 16, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm

This white mom supports Barack Obama and Joe Biden because I believe our country will be safer, our economy will be stronger, and my kids’ health and education will be better if they are in charge.
I’ve started a blog at http://whitemom4obama.blogspot.com/ to show you why I feel that way, keep tabs on what is going on, and try to help you sort through the craziness of this election.
In an election where the media tells us a lot about whether or not people are “like us,” this blog will track what the candidates care about, and act on, because I want a President that looks out for me, for my family, and for my country, more than I want a President that is “like me.”
Come join the conversation.

Posted by: jlynphd | September 16, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm

There may be hope. This article is from Newsweek/September 16, 2008
Palin’s Favorability Ratings Begin to Falter
To know her is not necessarily to love her.
When John McCain picked Sarah Palin as his running mate late last month, the Alaska governor quickly became a media phenomenon. Largely unknown, she existed at first in something of an information vacuum, and due to the shock of her selection–everyone loves a surprise–the press rushed to fill the void with whatever data was easily available. Mostly this consisted of human interest material; Palin had plenty to go around. Mooseburgers. Float planes. Ice Fishing. Beauty pageants. Teen pregnancy. Et cetera. By the end of her first 15 minutes in the spotlight–which included her speech at the Republican National Convention in St. Paul–Palin existed mostly as an idea: a frontier supermom who’d triumphed over adversity (the Ol’ Boys Club, the “liberal media”). Palin spent her first week reading from a teleprompter and avoiding questions from the press–and the public–so as not to sully this useful image.
The polls reflected the early success of her strategy. In the three days after Palin joined Team McCain–Aug. 29-31–32 percent of voters told the pollsters at Diageo/Hotline that they had a favorable opinion of her; most (48 percent) didn’t know enough to say. By Sept. 4, however, 43 percent of Diageo/Hotline respondents approved of Palin with only 25 percent disapproving–an 18-point split. Apparently, voters were liking what they were hearing. Four days later, Palin’s approval rating had climbed to 47 percent (+17), and by Sept. 13 it had hit 52 percent. The gap at that point between her favorable and unfavorable numbers–22 percent–was larger than either McCain’s (+20) or Obama’s (+13).
But then a funny thing happened: Palin lost some of her luster. Since Sept. 13, Palin’s unfavorables have climbed from 30 percent to 36 percent. Meanwhile, her favorables have slipped from 52 percent to 48 percent. That’s a three-day net swing of -10 points, and it leaves her in the Sept. 15 Diageo/Hotline tracking poll with the smallest favorability split (+10) of any of the Final Four. Over the course of a single weekend, in other words, Palin went from being the most popular White House hopeful to the least.
What happened? I’d argue that Palin’s considerable novelty is starting to wear off. In part it’s the result of a steady stream of unhelpful stories: her unfamiliarity with the Bush Doctrine during last Thursday’s interview with Charles Gibson (video above); her refusal to cooperate with the Troopergate investigation; her repeated stretching of truth on everything from earmarks to the Bridge to Nowhere to the amount of energy her state produces. That stuff has a way of inspiring disapproval and eroding one’s support. (Interestingly, Palin’s preparedness numbers–about 50 percent yes, 45 percent no–haven’t budged.) But mostly it’s the start of an inevitable process. Between now and Nov. 4, voters will stop seeing Palin as a fascinating story and starting taking her measure as an actual candidate for office. Some will approve; some won’t. It remains to be seen whether Palin’s recent slide will continue, or hurt John McCain in the polls. But it’s hard to argue that the journey from intriguing new superstar to earthbound politician doesn’t involve a loss of altitude.
Just ask Barack Obama.

Posted by: Sarah | September 16, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm

I found this other great site. Check it out. See what the young women who started it has to say.
http://www.womenagainstpalin.com

Posted by: Sarah | September 16, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm

All the women I know detest Palin, she does not speak for most of us. Only the conservative right who are against women’s rights support her.
OBAMA/BIDEN 2008!!

Posted by: evelyn | September 16, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm

I cannot believe how my sisters are thinking and acting! Sarah Palin is a triumph for women. Repeating lies and exaggerations without checking them out makes people into fools. Reading many of these posts is like looking into an assylum.
Who are these “women’s groups” kidding anyway? They were never going to vote for McCain in the first place, but rather, they want to try to sway the opinions of the rest of us. Also, they don’t speak for all women, just the extremely liberal ones.
There are more ways to be a feminist than just the “Godless man-hater” variety. Sarah Palin is a great example of a very real woman who embraces her femininity and womanhood while holding high office and doing it well.
Having her as VP can only be positive for women. Future women won’t have to deal with being some type of novelty. They can have the same scrutiny and criticism a man should have, instead of all this other extra garbage.
A real vote for a sound U.S.A. and for women is McCain/Palin in ’08!

Posted by: Jane Doe | September 16, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm

check out http://womenagainstsarahpalin.org/
another anti-Palin website and blog

Posted by: Irene Herz | September 16, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm

Sandy Diana I would hope that you are not a UK expat and it is merely an utterly ANNOYING coincidence that you keep saying “cheers” at the end of your irksome diatribes…or perhaps you are a yank that lived abroad or travels or visits with friends in Britain…whatever the case maybe you are making yourself and whatever group you hail from look awfully narrow-minded, ignorant and thick! Glad your have signed off and BTW don’t let the keyboard hit you in the arse on the way out!

Posted by: Kate | September 16, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm

wow!! thank you for starting this blog! I was getting discouraged that I was the only woman who can’t stand Palin’s stand on various issues essential to women!!
I’m so glad I’m not the only republican
woman who is ashamed of the McCain/Palin tactic.
Sad truth is, he could have chosen any number of well qualified women with ample experience to be his running mate. Who does he chose? A woman who is certainly not a represntative of woman or Americans! She jst happens to be appealing to white women under the rouse of “shes one of us”! She’s not one of us!! I don’t have others taking care of my kids. I work because I have to put food on the table!!
I can’t imagine being glad that my daughters have a woman politician to look up to when all I can see is a woman who is full of….well…lets just admit it….CRAP!!!!
Palin needs to go home and take care of the mess she calls her family. Perhaps if she devoted more attention to her kids instead of running off to chase ambitions (being used by McCain for women’s votes, she would be much better off!! Go home Palin – where you belong!!!!!!

Posted by: tyler | September 16, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm

wow!! thank you for starting this blog! I was getting discouraged that I was the only woman who can’t stand Palin’s stand on various issues essential to women!!
I’m so glad I’m not the only republican
woman who is ashamed of the McCain/Palin tactic.
Sad truth is, he could have chosen any number of well qualified women with ample experience to be his running mate. Who does he chose? A woman who is certainly not a represntative of woman or Americans! She jst happens to be appealing to white women under the rouse of “shes one of us”! She’s not one of us!! I don’t have others taking care of my kids. I work because I have to put food on the table!!
I can’t imagine being glad that my daughters have a woman politician to look up to when all I can see is a woman who is full of….well…lets just admit it….CRAP!!!!
Palin needs to go home and take care of the mess she calls her family. Perhaps if she devoted more attention to her kids instead of running off to chase ambitions (being used by McCain for women’s votes, she would be much better off!! Go home Palin – where you belong!!!!!!

Posted by: tyler | September 16, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm

Sarah Palin is not vice-presidential material. Period. If the NASCAR and WALMART crowd can’t figure that out, then God help us.

Posted by: moxielin | September 16, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm

Good to know I am not the only one who thinks this neocon in lipstick is nothing more than a shrewdly placed distraction. Yeah, I admire her spunk and ambition, but her stance on rape victims and other women’s issues, not to mention censorship, etc, makes her a bad choice. I admire her for staying feminine in a “man’s” world but she is not the first to do that. Anne Richards comes to mind. The difference is principals. I am looking for some world peace here and not Armageddon. She has no idea how to lead this country out of domestic and foreign troubles. She is the wrong choice.

Posted by: metoo | September 17, 2008, 12:11 am 12:11 am

As a woman, (also past PTA pres & proud mother of 3 daughters), I feel completely patronized by the Republican machine that chose a wholly unqualified Sarah Palin. She’s a joke.
As a Christian, the last time I read the Bible, Jesus was “the community organizer,” and Pilot was “the mayor” of a small backwater town.
If Sarah Palin was a man, “he” would not be considered VP material on any political party (Dem/Rep/Lib…).
Those of you even thinking of slamming my comment as “liberal”: STOP insulting my intelligence, and my religion!

Posted by: Gracie | September 17, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

Thanks, Jane Doe and a very few other women with a common sense. To me it’s painful to read all these hateful, disgusting, rude and completely mendacious remarks post by, so called, independantly minded people. I was Hillery supporter and from the beginning of this campaign knew that I would never ever vote for Obama. He is a stronger version of Carter, which, in my opinion, is even more dangerous. Listen to him, ladies. Open your ears and just listen and analyze what he’s saying and what he represents. THE MAN IS JUST FOR HIMSELF. He doesn’t care about you, your families, your each-day life. He, as well, as his wife, doesn’t care for this country. Him not choosing Hillery as his VP, shows just that. All his life he was a loser, using back-door tactics, stabbing people, who were helping him, in the back. All his “victories” in Chicago, his voting record, his statements – everything about him makes me mad. YES, I SUPPORT MCCAIN/PALIN ticket now! How can you talk about her experience, when your candidate for THE PRESIDENT doesn’t have not just any experience in anything, but doesn’t understand how economy works in this country. You are so happy that he promised to cut taxes for 95% of MIDDLE-CLASS FAMILIES, but he will raise taxes on people and companies that provide jobs and supply products here. He’ll give a family a $1000 a year, but then, EVERYBODY will pay more for everything and, on top of that, you’ll pay more taxes on everything you buy, because the price will be higher. And he’ll raise taxes on much more – read his programs. He even doesn’t understand that corporations do not pay taxes – people who work in corporations pay taxes. It’s all just talks, talks, talks. If you don’t remember Carter’s time with 23% interest rate, let me tell you something – you just don’t see what’s going to happen when this nobody comes to power. And, please, stop saying that “this woman”, meaning Palin, is a bad choice for VP. She did more in her short few years in politics, that your candidate did in his whole life. She is one of us, he is one of a hateful circle of people, whos dream is to destroy us.

Posted by: Helen | September 17, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm

I am 67 years old and (up until recently) proud to be a Republican. I never even considered voting for a democrat until 2000. I had high hopes for a breath of fresh air after 8 years of a president who has destroyed our country in far too many ways to count. I anxiously awaited McCain’s VP choice, and even was intrigued by Palin on that first day. You can’t imagine my disappointment when I learned more about her. All along I thought McCain would steer away from the Bush path, but his VP choice has proven me wrong.
The republican party is not the same party it was 25 years ago. It is turning into an establishment full of corruption, and violations of our constitution. The republicans I know firmly believed in separation of church and state, freedom of speech, and checks and balances, just to name a few core values. Not so with the current Bush administration and Sarah Palin. They are a complete disgrace to the republican party.

Posted by: Barb | September 17, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm

So Helen, if you want to talk about “stabbing people, who were helping him, in the back”, perhaps you should read more about what Sarah Palin has done as both mayor and governor.
Also, how on earth was Carter dangerous??? I have the utmost respect for that man. He has done far more for humankind than most of us could ever fathom. His one fault, perhaps, was that he was not as aggressive as he needed to be in that office. You wrote yourself that Obama is “a stronger version of Carter”, so that should not be an issue for him.
I think my favorite is your line stating that Obama “is one of a hateful circle of people, whos dream is to destroy us.” What facts do you have to back that up?

Posted by: Allison | September 17, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm

Helen-
I have to agree that my first choice was Hillary, but when you compare Obama/Biden to McCain/Palin, it is not hard to figure out who most closely represents Hillary’s views. I would not be at all surprised if Obama has a specific appointment in mind for Hillary if he becomes president. Obama did not get where he did by back stabbing, as you claim. He worked extremely hard to get into college, and he earned those good grades (unlike a couple others whose names I will not mention here).

Posted by: Jack | September 17, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm

Allison, it is one thing to fire people who are not going along with the vision of the newly elected mayor/governor (that’s why each new president brings along his own cabinet and his own people) and win an election by destroying the opponent. Each time Obama won the election in Chicago, he didn’t even have any opponents. The first time his people found some discrepancies with the APPLICATION of the woman, very popular Senator, by the way, whom he substituted in the Congress (the application was a formality and wasn’t even provided by her – her staff did it) and second time he brought up the divorce case of his opponent and made it ugly. That’s for the first argument. In response to Carter, I’m sorry that you feel so strong about the man. Him building houses for the poor, has nothing to do with his time in the White House – it was a horror!! A lot of what’s happening now in the real estate, I believe, came from his economic programs. Do you remember that all these adjustable mortgages, balloons, etc, were introduced during the time when the interest rate was 23% (if not higher) during his presidency. And the terrorist’s movement started after he was not able to handle the Iran crisis and made the USA the laughing stock of the world. He was weak, uneducated, unexperienced and, simply, not smart. And in regard of Obama’s being one of a hateful circle of people – do I have to remind you of his 20some years association with the pastor, among some other not so pleasant people? Or maybe you think that they love us and our country? And Jack, I’m very happy that Obama earned good grades in college, but just recently he learned that there are not 37 states in the USA. And don’t even think that he will offer Hillery some “specific appointment” and that she would be happy to be a member of his cabinet. I certainly hope that she is better then that.

Posted by: Helen | September 17, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm

50 year old mother of four from Mississippi join in this protest. I got such a sad feeling when I watched her special needs child at the DNC. She got the infant and positioned him face forward for the cameras to photograph his face. Of special note to me is both she and her husband are traveling around campaigning. Not one parent is at home with the children. In spite of her profane ignorance, that tells me a lot about her character. The role of the mother and father is different, yet equal. That is the way we were created by God. When you become a parent, there are self-sacrifices. With children, you pay now or pay later, and a solid foundation is priceless.

Posted by: Eve | September 17, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm

There is a sense that liberal Obama women will betray their gender for their male Democrat bosses. Under Bill Clinton, so called feminists ran for cover when Clinton’s stain appeared on the dress of a low-level government worker. Then there was the media destruction of many women by Clinton and the gals on the left, while other women attempted to to explain to their young daughters what the Democrat president was doing to office workers with his little cigar.
Even when a long-handled woman resurfaced with a rape charge against Clinton, liberal women attacked the victim while Clinton smirked in that hillbilly way….
Similarly, with Palin, liberal women are American women’s worst enemy. They are clawing and tearing at Palin like a pack of she-wolves, never questioning the talking points and orders given them by Obama and his operatives. Perhaps the womens’ movement is dead. That would explain how Obama was able to turn Hillary into his reluctant personal cheerleader so easily.
Whatcha think ladies?
http://americanpoliticalblog.wordpress.com/

Posted by: Larry Clifton | September 17, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm

Food for Thought: Hillary does not want to be VP. She ran for the democratic presidential nomination. VP is second; however, Hillary wants what she wants, and that is to be the first female president of the United States. She will be our first female President. Obama paid her campaign debts to the tune of 35M. Believe me it was not a gift. This is politics. Don’t ever under estimate Hillary R. Clinton. She always has a plan. That VP stuff, forget it. That’s beneath her.

Posted by: Eve | September 17, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm

Very sad that so many of the comments here include name calling. We are ALL one nation – not just red and blue “states.” I suspect many of you are too young to relate to the struggle for women’s rights and that may be why you are unable to stick to the ISSUES.
I think we need to start talking about QUALIFICATIONS instead of experience. No one has the experience to be President of the United States unless they’ve BEEN President of the United States. The only person in this whole race who even came close to that got knocked out of the race. It seems to me that on the question of qualifications the Democratic ticket has a clear advantage. Unfortunately, too many Americans seem to prefer a leader that seems like the guy (or girl) next door. They wouldn’t trust loaning their lawn mower to this guy, but they’re willing to give him (or her) control over their 401K. It’s time to get off the ego trip and admit that when it comes to the ‘leader of the free world’, it’s probably best to elect someone who IS smarter than we THINK we are.

Posted by: Ranga | September 17, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm

Look, dont hate these women because they see through all the false enthusiasm over Sarah Palin. These are SMART women. They are not part of the phony flock going to Mccain just because he tapped a woman to run with him. So Kudos to Women agains Palin!!!Palin and Hilary have NOTHING in common, other than being female, so if you call yourself both Hilary and Palin supporter you are attempting the impossible. And you sound retarded doing so. Thats like worshipping God and the devil simultaneously. Its OBSURD! And in this case, very SEXIST on your part.

Posted by: New Jersey | September 17, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm

Look, dont hate these women because they see through all the false enthusiasm over Sarah Palin. These are SMART women. They are not part of the phony flock going to Mccain just because he tapped a woman to run with him. So Kudos to Women agains Palin!!!Palin and Hilary have NOTHING in common, other than being female, so if you call yourself both Hilary and Palin supporter you are attempting the impossible. And you sound retarded doing so. Thats like worshipping God and the devil simultaneously. Its OBSURD! And in this case, very SEXIST on your part.

Posted by: New Jersey | September 17, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm

The feminist are up in arms over Sarah Palin – why? Numerous reasons! But the number one reason besides the fact she has a great record and is intelligent, they don’t like her because she is attractive – unlike the SCAGS who dominate their ranks.

Posted by: Chris Golis | September 17, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm

As Lady Rothschild shoved back in her own plate of condescension… the Choice issue is a noose the DNC keeps trying to hand around women’s necks as though they (the DNC) are the only ones who can protect women’s rights. The rights of women are spelled out in the constitution. If you believe in the constitution, you don’t have to put your faith in Obama, Reid, or Dean to protect your rights. Choice no longer has to be the noose that binds you to an ideology or elitist mentality that doesn’t serve your needs.
Proud woman who supports Palin – 08.

Posted by: Beth | September 17, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm

Chris, I should be offend, but that is so funny. You are right, a better word however would be skanky.

Posted by: Julie Anna | September 17, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm

I have never taken the time to blog before, but I feel compelled to speak about Sarah Palin. Are we all even talking about the same person? I agree her experience is weak, but that doesn’t seem to matter in this election. I don’t understand the hatered toward her. She appears to be a person who lives by conservative moral standards. She is a strong woman, a working mom, and she believes in the right to life of unborn children. Maybe you don’t agree about when life begins, but why would you hate someone for erroring on the conservative side of that issue?

Posted by: Kim | September 17, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm

Woman against Palin drop flipping dead. I’m so sick of woman who trash other woman. And the National Organization of Woman that I was a member of in the 70′s are a bunch of pathetic women haters. I’m SICK of the discrimination against woman it’s worse than racism and many woman are the ones that do it. McCain/Palin for me, never voting Democrat again. I’m an independent.

Posted by: Linda | September 17, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm

You idiots think that Palin is inexperienced for a VP and you are voting for Obama? Please…Hehe…always thought my fellow woman could be stupid at times but now you are all acting like lesbian Koolaid drinking Pied Piper sheep. Wish I was a man, my own sex embarrasses me. By the way, I’m not blue collar, I make $130K a year.

Posted by: Linda | September 17, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm

What’s up with all the lesbian attacks. I love d***, but I don’t like Palin for VP. I’m all woman, but Palin is the wrong woman for this job. Count me in as a WASP (Woman Against Sarah Palin)!!! Obama/Biden 08 & 12!!!

Posted by: Elisa | September 17, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm

Helen, it is possible that Hillary would not want a position in the Obama cabinet, but we do know that she was open to the idea of VP at one point. Hillary has many talents that might be best utilized in a position other than VP. Personally, I think that she was the best presidential candidate out there, and she would have been a fabulous president. Maybe her chance will come in 2012.

Posted by: Elizabeth | September 17, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm

I’m a little confused. Let me see if I have this straight…..
* If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you’re “exotic, different.”
* Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers, a quintessential American story.
* If your name is Barack you’re a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.
* Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, you’re a maverick.
* Graduate from Harvard law School and you are unstable.
* Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you’re well-grounded.
* If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer, become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor, spend 8 years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people, become chairman of the state Senate’s Health and Human Services committee, spend 2 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran’s Affairs committees, you don’t have any real leadership experience.
* If your total resume is: local weather girl, 4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people, 20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000 people, then you’re qualified to become the country’s second highest ranking executive.
* If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising 2 daughters, all within Protestant churches, you’re not a real Christian.
* If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and left your broken and disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you’re a Christian.
* If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.
* If, while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no other option in sex education in your state’s school system while your unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant, you’re very responsible.
* If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position in a prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city community, then gave that up to raise a family, your family’s values don’t represent America’s.
* If your husband is nicknamed “First Dude”, with at least one DWI conviction and no college education, who didn’t register to vote until age 25 and once was a member of a group that advocated the secession of Alaska from the USA, your family is extremely admirable.
OK, much clearer now.

Posted by: another woman against palin | September 18, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am

I am so unbelievably proud of all the amazing women against Palin. Women have a voice and they’re using it.
I felt so insulted when Palin was the VP pick, McCain must think we are STUPID now we know for sure who the stupid one is.
I really do have hope again.

Posted by: Sandra | September 18, 2008, 12:52 am 12:52 am

The post by another women against palin is great. I love it!

Posted by: Sarah | September 18, 2008, 1:14 am 1:14 am

Sarah Palin is not qualified? I have to laugh when I hear that as those against her have the total nutcase, zero brain Pelosi right behind her. These women think they are men, but missing the plumbing, so slanted in their view they hate anyone who does not agree. What a country, even the narrow minded have a chance.

Posted by: Steve | September 18, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am

Any woman who supports this “Stepford Wife” and well trained monkey deserves the crap the Republicans have brought about. Unfortunately, people like me have to eat the same crap because of uneducated fools that support this Bimbo and McBush. Global warming is “God hugging us closer?” Well then, I hope he hugs all you ignorant fools close enough to choke you.

Posted by: Mary | September 18, 2008, 10:56 am 10:56 am

We need to get out, get people registered and make sure they vote. I wish I lived in a swing state. Obama all the way

Posted by: emily | September 18, 2008, 10:58 am 10:58 am

All right, Another Brainwashed Woman Against the Common Sense, let’s talk facts.
If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, because your unstable mother was jumping from one extremist to another and your first “teacher” was a COMMUNIST, who, among other things, taught you “never trust white people” – you are “exotic” and for sure “different”. Most of American parents teach their kids to be kind, nice to others, and trustful.
If you became Christian in a tender age of twenty something, thanks to an extremist, a disgusting pastor, who hates this country and its people as much, as his “first” teacher did, I would like to know who you were before that – atheist, Muslim, Jew?
I also would like to know what were you doing in Columbia University? Of course, you told us that you were spending all your time in the library (using drugs, probably, between introducing yourself to great books). By the way, what books, I would like to know. Why all your records of that time are inaccessible? What, I would like to know, are you hiding, Mr. Obama?
If you spent 3 years as a “brilliant community organizer” not achieving anything (your own words) – what were you organizing over there? I lived in Chicago at that time – the south part of that city was also inaccessible to law abiding, normal citizens of that great city.
If you were such a great professor of a Constitutional Law, why not a single student of yours came up and told us anything, SOMETHING about your greatness? Maybe, because you were just “present” there, as well as you were present during all the voting on the main, IMPORTANT issues in Chicago’s Senate? I also would like to know how did you become a chairman of the state Senate’s Health and Human Services committee, on your first year in the Senate? Whom did you stub and whose asses did you kiss? And why, as a chairman of that committee, you were against a simple, human law, to provide a medical help to children born alive after abortion? The picture of that poor baby, thrown in a dirty room, between brooms and garbage cans, screaming for help, should never be forgotten by anyone. And please, Another Woman, don’t even go in the area of him, sponsoring 131 bills – what bills? And what does it mean – sponsoring? Not introducing! Not fighting for! Spooooooooooonsoooooooooring…. And we know by now, that those 131 bills were not something important – he didn’t even vote for something important. Oh, I am sorry, he sponsored a very important bill – to teach 5 years old “appropriate sex education, including the proper use of birth control”. Do you read what you write? Do you understand what you say? And don’t tell me that it was to teach kids how to avoid sex predators – READ THE STUPID THING.
If you have been married to the same woman… and in your first year in Chicago’s Senate, your wife’s salary jumped by some insignificant 170% and her boss got 1 million dollars of people’s money, of course, she would stay married to you. And in regard to her working for “the betterment of her inner city community” – the hospital she worked for sent most of sick people (like 70% of them) coming to them for help, unfortunately without the insurance, to other hospitals in the area.
I don’t know who you are and what’s the purpose of you writing this nonsense, but you are still in dark. I hope that someday everything would become clearer to you. I only hope that it won’t be too late.

Posted by: Helen | September 18, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am

Oh what a perversion of the facts, but that seems to be all the republicans seem to have left.

Posted by: Get real | September 18, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm

It’s my day off (I teach and AFT card holding union member) My youngest (11 mo)of 4 is finally napping and I thought I would take a stroll over to “the dark side” of liberal feminism, namely this web site. WOW the hatred and frankly bull I see is unbelievable! And toward another sister! Yes I am WOMAN! NO ABORTION is NOT my only issue, and I APPLAUD any strong woman shattering the glass ceiling, getting it done!Finally a role model for my 19 yr old daughter!A strong woman taking charge, running things that MEN usually run!
Remember sisters, for years our place was in the kitchen barefoot and pregnant! As I type this i am barefoot, starting dinner, paying bills, playing with my 4 year old, checking my e-mail, working on my dissertation, checking on my plummeting 401K, writing my congresswoman, and counting the days until I can afford for my husband to be a stay at home dad! You go Sister Sara! You have got me thinking of running for governor of my state!

Posted by: Kimba | September 18, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm

What, no comments sisters?

Posted by: Kimba | September 18, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm

To a “Get Real” person. Thank you for not calling me names (that’s what I expected) and for not putting all those lies in contrast to my true information about Mr. Obama’s greatness. Please, wake up. Everything I wrote about is the TRUTH. THE FACTS. You can find this information(of course, not here and not on MSNBC). It’s open to public. And for Kimba – good, girl, go and do something you believe in.

Posted by: Helen | September 18, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm

OK so I will preach a little more…
I don’t need men to tell me how to vote, me to protect my rights. Men to take my money (redistribute).
I choose to keep men around! I am the giver of life! I ( and you my sister) are the center of it all!
Yes I would have voted for Hillary and as a TRUE feminist I vote for EVERY woman I can! Now is our time to stand together my sisters and take what is rightfully ours, THE POWER. Support All women! Fight for all women! We can haggle over the spoils at the end of the war!

Posted by: Kimba | September 18, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm

still nothing from the liberal libbers? Well I have more…
Are you so bitter and disenchanted that you will just swallow whatever bitter pill the dems give you? Tell me how a man can ever support a woman’s agenda? Do you really think a male Senator from Chicago cares about you my sisters? The Dems had there chance and they chose MEN.
I believe this is MaCain’s Legacy, he will hand over the reigns to A WOMAN! And the Dems. Well sisters, we would have to wait 8 more years to see that. Take the power when you can. Work hard for the betterment of WOMEN THROUGH WOMEN.

Posted by: Kimba | September 18, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm

opps, sorry about the spelling errors, chalk it up to my passion for the issue.

Posted by: Kimba | September 18, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm

Helen,
It is clear that you are are among the most brainwashed of anyone here. Have you been listening to those “Christian” talk shows? I checked on your claims on factcheck and could find almost nothing on any of them. Please wake up from your dream state before it’s too late.

Posted by: Steve | September 18, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm

People like Helen deserve our pity. She probably doesn’t even realize that she is being fed a bunch of lies.

Posted by: Linda | September 18, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm

I have one comment for Allison,
Sister you are so sadly mistaken about Carter. That man is a supporter of the PLO. Normally I would not care about this, but Palestine, like most Muslim countries is very very anti woman. To tell a woman to cover her head, to kill her if you want,to not allow her an education or the freedom to work and to keep her in the home as one of your many wives DOES NOT support a feminist agenda. WAKE UP!

Posted by: Kimba | September 18, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm

Do I deserve your pity as well Linda? Have I been fed a bunch of lies? Is there not anyone who will debate me?
What will it take to enrage you women? How many times will you allow yourselves to be PASSED OVER so a MAN who is far less qualified is picked? I am so angry at the Democratic establishment for not picking Hillary I doubt I will Ever support them.
I listen to Palin and I hear a strong woman. What do I hear from the left? Directives to Pelosi and Clinton to “Go get the women’s vote and bring them back to the party” I say GET LOST!

Posted by: Kimba | September 18, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm

I had to copy this from a previous post, It looks like it has been lost on my fellow feminists. Come on sisters, how much MORE proof do you need?
Obama’s 28 male staffers divided among themselves total payroll expenditures of $1,523,120. Thus, Obama’s average male employee earned $54,397.
Obama’s 30 female employees split $1,354,580 among themselves, or $45,152, on average.
On average, Obama’s female staffers earn just 83 cents for every dollar his male staffers make
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NmEzMTZmNTk5MDI0NTZmNjUwMjllN2ZlZTc0MWFmYzY=
Posted by: jack burton | Sep 12, 2008 11:00:11 AM
McCain’s 17 male staffers split $916,914, thus averaging $53,936. His 25 female employees divided $1,396,958 and averaged $55,878.
On average, according to these data, women in John McCain’s office make $1.04 for every dollar a man makes. In fact, ceteris paribus, a typical female staffer could earn 21 cents more per dollar paid to her male counterpart — while adding $10,726 to her annual income — by leaving Barack Obama’s office and going to work for John McCain.

Posted by: Kimba | September 18, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm

I will say this one more time.
Feminists wake up!!!Take charge!!!Vote the only ticket that actually has a WOMAN!
It IS your only choice. If you truly believe in equallity for women, than vote for the WOMAN!
Come on, its really not that difficult, Women Unite!

Posted by: Kimba | September 18, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm

To another woman against palin,
Thanks for your post. It pretty much sums up how the republicans would like us to think. Very scary.

Posted by: Louisa | September 18, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm

Helen,
I told you that I checked factcheck.org. You can find many different versions of a story on Google. Factcheck researches claims and verifies whether or not they are true.

Posted by: Steve | September 18, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm

My dear Steve, what couldn’t you find? Google the information. I hope you know how. Everything I wrote, is the TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. What do you mean “almost nothing”. Spend a little but more time, if you want to know the truth. And let me give you another fact, the good one – do you know that Senator Obama made around 3 mil. last year (not counting his salary as a Senator) and didn’t pay a penny of the tax on it. You know why? He invested with some company (don’t try to do the same, it is for RICH only, and I’m mot taking about people with $250000 a year income) that pays untaxable dividents. How do you like this? He tells you to be patriots and pay as much in taxes as he will make you to pay, but when it comes to Mr. Obama (and Mrs. Obama, by the way) they are patriots just by saying that. Again, this is the truth. Look at their tax returns. THIS MAN IS A FRAUD. In everything. So… don’t tell me to wake up. I am fully awake and the more I learn about the man, the more sleepless I become.
Thanks, Linda, for pitying me – honestly, I don’t deserve it. Because when I hear something that is too good to be true, I’m checking it out and make a solid decision based on facts. You are eating from the plate full of lies and deceptions. Sorry, lady.

Posted by: Helen | September 18, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm

Sorry, Steve, for putting another version of the same letter – it didn’t go through the first time, so I thought it got lost. Again, would you please, tell me exactly what information you couldn’t find.

Posted by: Helen | September 18, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm

I will say this one more time.
Feminists wake up!!!Take charge!!!Vote the only ticket that actually has a WOMAN!
It IS your only choice. If you truly believe in equality for women, than vote for the WOMAN!
Come on, its really not that difficult, Women Unite!

Posted by: Kimba | September 18, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm

“A liberal is a MAN who will give away everything he doesn’t own”… Frank Dane

Posted by: Kimba | September 18, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm

Read this article to see the truth about that natural gas pipeline Palin claims she has started. It’s not where near to being started, in fact we could call it the pipeline to nowhere and she wants to take it through Canada and send more of our jobs out of the country. When she was running for governor her moto was “Canada My Ass-It’s Alaska’s Gas”. Once she got elected she was willing to consider “other options”.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/sep/15/palins-pipeline-less-meets-eye

Posted by: Sarah | September 19, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm

Sarah, when will you stop hearing what you want to hear and interpreting the information the way you want it to be interpret? I did read the article you advertized (another one interpreting the information the way the want to, but even they gave her some credit) and then googled another information about the subject. I don’t trust political informers, most of them are bias, as we all know, I trust professionals. The Financial Post (August 30, 2008) said the following: “After DECADES with minimal progress on a gas pipeline, Alaska now has two competing projects on the go. Ms. Palin… constructed the Alaska Gasline Inducement Act, sprinkled with financial incentives…”. That’s exactly what she was saying all along – the process began. She didn’t say it’s a done deal, she said it started! To your information, she also cancelled all of Exxon’s leases in one of the oil and gas field in Alaska for failing to develop the zone. And… surprise, surprise… Exxon filed the suit, of course, and MOVED EQUIPMENT INTO AREA. To me, the woman is a doer, not a liar, and not a talking head. She does, what she says – she fights oil companies and makes them work for the American people. What did Mr. Obama fought for beside himself, and what actions were taking due to his fight? You should be ashamed of yourself, Sarah.

Posted by: Helen | September 19, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm

If people would just listen to her interviews, they would realize that Palin never answers the questions. She constantly goes off on tangents or talks around the questions. Either she can’t stay focused, she doesn’t understand the questions, or she has a lot to hide. None of those possibilities speak well for her as a potential leader of this country.

Posted by: Elizabeth | September 19, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm

The thing that gets me the most is how people claiming to support Hillary can possibly vote for Palin. I am a strong Hillary supporter, and was disappointed when she lost. She had well laid out plans for the economy, health care, and foreign policy. Palin has none of this, and her views are absolutely opposite from those of Hillary. Besides the fact that they are both female and beautiful, they have absolutely NOTHING in common.
If you are looking for a candidate just like Bush, then Palin may be your answer. Personally, I am hoping for a change in direction after the past 8 years of failure.

Posted by: Caroline | September 19, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm

Sarah Palin is merely a female promoting a rich white male agenda (i.e. “Bush in lipstick”). As women, we should be appalled by this. There are so many republican women out there who would have been fabulous, and I am so disappointed in McCain for making such a poor choice.

Posted by: Lynn | September 19, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm

If these comments are the best you two could come with, Hurray for all the empty-headed women in here. Instead of discussion, you come up with silly opinions of “how she talks” or, even better, “she doesn’t have any plans”. She is not running for presidency! I was Hillery supporter, because of two bed things you have to go with the one that is better. Never in my life I would vote for somebody like Obama – the man who doesn’t give a damn about anything or anyone, but himself. I put the country and what’s going on in here much higher then the question of abortions and equal pay. Why do we have now so many women in high corporate positions, my I ask? Because they are good at what they are doing. I believe in my inner power, my skills, my education, and my professional skills. Hillery is the politician, one of so many on the Capital Hill who forgot how the real life is a long time ago. She raised her only child in the governor mansion, then moved to the White House, then to the Senate and now wants to be the First Woman-President. I respect her strenght, but, if you ask my opinion of who is better in the White House, without any hesitation I would say – Palin. She is one of us, Hillery is one of them. Politic is more important to her then issues. And she proved it just yesterday, when decided not to go to the rally against that crazy from Iran. Sorry, girls.

Posted by: Helen | September 19, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm

Helen, This isn’t a blog supporting Palin…maybe you should find one and spend your time there. You really do need to check your facts before you post. There are several – poltifact; factcheck; snopes. Then check the polls. Your rantings are are just a tad insane!

Posted by: Jen | September 19, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm

Where do you find your evidence to support your claim that Obama “doesn’t give a damn about anything or anyone, but himself”? Have you ever tried the excellent sources mentioned by Jen? I have found factcheck to be especially helpful. So much of what we find on Google is simply lies, and these resources were designed specifically to validate or invalidate claims from both sides.

Posted by: Steve | September 19, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm

I’m sorry, I forgot to write that my above post was addressed to Helen.

Posted by: Steve | September 19, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm

A watchdog group called LegiStorm posts online the salaries for Capitol Hill staffers. “We have no political affiliations and no political purpose except to make the workings of Congress as transparent as possible,” its website explains. Parsing LegiStorm’s official data, gleaned from the Secretary of the Senate, offers a fascinating glimpse at pay equity in the World’s Greatest Deliberative Body.
The most recent statistics are for the half-year from Oct. 1, 2007 to March 31, 2008, excluding interns and focusing on full-time personnel. For someone who worked only until, say, last Feb. 29, extrapolating up to six months’ service simplifies this analysis. Doubling these half-year figures illustrates how a year’s worth of Senate employees’ paychecks should look.
Based on these calculations, Obama’s 28 male staffers divided among themselves total payroll expenditures of $1,523,120. Thus, Obama’s average male employee earned $54,397.
Obama’s 30 female employees split $1,354,580 among themselves, or $45,152, on average.
Why this disparity? One reason may be the under-representation of women in Obama’s highest-compensated ranks. Among Obama’s five best-paid advisors, only one was a woman. Among his top 20, seven were women.
Again, on average, Obama’s female staffers earn just 83 cents for every dollar his male staffers make. This figure certainly exceeds the 77-cent threshold that Obama’s campaign website condemns. However, 83 cents do not equal $1.
Indeed not, but what’s really interesting is that when you look at who the presidential candidates actually employ and what they pay them, John McCain appears to be far more about action, as opposed to just talk, where gender pay equity is concerned:
McCain’s 17 male staffers split $916,914, thus averaging $53,936. His 25 female employees divided $1,396,958 and averaged $55,878.
On average, according to these data, women in John McCain’s office make $1.04 for every dollar a man makes. In fact, all other things being equal, a typical female staffer could earn 21 cents more per dollar paid to her male counterpart — while adding $10,726 to her annual income — by leaving Barack Obama’s office and going to work for John McCain.
How could this be?
One explanation could be that women compose a majority of McCain’s highest-paid aides. Among his top-five best-compensated staffers, three are women. Of his 20-highest-salaried employees, 13 are women. The Republican presidential nominee relies on women — much more than men — for advice at the highest, and thus, best-paid levels.
In short, these statistics suggest that John McCain is more than fair with his female employees, while Barack Obama — at the expense of the women who work for him — quietly perpetuates the very same pay-equity divide that he loudly denounces. Of all people, the Democratic standard bearer should understand that equal pay begins at home.
I could not agree more. Less talk, more action, please, Mr. Obama…

Posted by: Judge | September 19, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm

It is amazing that Obama had no idea of what to do about the financial crisis. When the markets rose up supporting the Republican methods, Obama suddenly agreed that it was a good idea and states McCain is in panic. John McCain does not know panic. Anyone that has survived being a severely tortured prisoner of war and was a fighter jet pilot that coolly escaped a burning aircraft on an exploding aircraft carrier never panics. John McCain is a man.
Obama talks with insecure emotions. He is a weak individual who will crumble under extreme world pressure. Look at Obama and see the little boy that he is.
Obama is not qualified to be the President of the United States of American. Palin has more experience running government the Obama. He has not experience in an executive position. Palin has experience in an executive position.

Posted by: Judge | September 19, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm

Jen, I thought that this blog is for people exchanging their thoughts and feelings. But you are right – it is not. It’s for some mean, angry, bad informed (or maybe too well informed) liers who have just one thing in common – to do whatever possible to promote their candidate no matter how dangerous and full of himself he is. You can’t argue with me with facts – you don’t have this mental ability and facts are against you. And you can’t use any of your tactics with me – facts speak for themselves. With this blog you just excersize your emptiness. Poor you. I was going to stop partiacipating in, so called, discussions here anyhow. No use. Complete nonsense and, to be honest, you bored me to death. Good buy.

Posted by: Helen | September 19, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm

All you liberal women are just upset because Palin represents how America truly feels, and pro-homo lifestyle feels threatened. Palin is Christian, right-to life (not pro-choice for a bunch of women who won’t keep their legs closed), and wants to give us the right to protect ourselves with guns (instead of just being victims of them). Hillary is just a liberal lesbian who hasn’t come out of the closet yet. Obama slipped in an interview and mentioned his “Muslim” faith. Why isn’t the liberal media jumping all over that?!!! Plus, Palin’s husband is hot! Obama’s wife looks more masculine than he does!

Posted by: Tina | September 20, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm

Tina – are you classifying Bristol as “a woman who won’t keep her legs closed?

Posted by: Jen | September 20, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm

Wow, Tina, you have proved yourself to be ignorant, homophobic and racist. In one email you managed to judge and slam just about every segment of our society. How very Christian of you. Love thy fellow man and all that. You do Palin proud. So let me make sure I understand, you have absolutely no respect for anyone who is different from you and unless they are “Christian” they can’t raise children who “keep their legs closed.” Apparently, Governor Palin isn’t having too much success in that area either.
And just for the record, statistics show that most Americans are no longer as backward thinking as you are.

Posted by: Shocked by the Hate | September 20, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm

I don’t know who or what Tina follows, but it certainly is not the teachings of Jesus Christ. Jesus did not teach us to be so hateful and bigoted.
It is people like Tina who give Americans and Christians a bad name. She may have been born in America, but she is NOT a Christian.

Posted by: Ann | September 20, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm

Hi Ann,
I totally agree.

Posted by: Shocked by the Hate | September 20, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm

Why are people so hard on Cindy McCain and Michelle Obama and yet they don’t hold Palin’s husband to the same standards. Such as his level of education (he will be meeting world leaders with his wife and be expected to be able to converse in an intelligent and informed manner) or his good works (which don’t usually include community service for a DUI). I guess he could entertain them with stories of why he wouldn’t testify about Troopergate.
We are going to continue to be the laughing stock of the world. Bush wasn’t bad enough? We have to subject ourselves to 4 more years? We already chose one from the bottom of his class. Do we have to do it again

Posted by: We must ask more questions | September 21, 2008, 12:09 am 12:09 am

Palin is NOT my choice. It’s not about voting for her because she is a woman. Her platform is against women’s rights!! She doesn’t support the issues that advance women to lead empowered lives: anti-choice; she supports a right wing religious agenda to keep women as their husband’s subordinate; Palin supports censorship in libraries; she promotes backward sex education programs like abstinence only; look at what happened to her dauther Bristol under this direction; never once has she mentioned what she will do to help working women. There’s millions of people living in poverty in this country and all Palin talks about is Soccer moms. She’s not addressing the working mothers who have to hold two jobs to make ends meet. Palin only knows her privileged platform.
NO PALIN!! She’s a BAD Disney Soccer Mom Movie as stated so correctly by Matt Damon. Her folksy views would be a global embarrassment to our country. Her media hype will fade soon when people see there’s not much there for our country.

Posted by: heidi | September 21, 2008, 2:32 am 2:32 am

I’m a woman vote AGAINST PALIN.
She would be a bad Disney Soccer Mom movie. Palin does not speak intelligently on the issues and uses the bible as a cover for her wordly ignorance.
She does not advance the women’s right platform. She is against women. She supports the coservative male agenda. Palin would set back women’s right 40 years. That’s why the Republican’s love her so much. The ignorant folk believe they are threatened by a women’s right to choose; instead they should be worrying about issues of foreign policy and our current broken economic system. Who cares what a woman chooses to do in her private life. Keep this campaign about the issues that affect our citizens and the livlihood, NOT private personal choices. GET REAL Palin and Republicans!!

Posted by: Heidi | September 21, 2008, 2:40 am 2:40 am

To We must ask more questions,
I completely agree! As Tina so eloquently stated, “Palin’s husband is hot!” That is the only positive thing I have heard about the man. For some reason, first dudes do not seem to get the same scrutiny as first ladies.

Posted by: Sandy | September 21, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am

i dont see why women in this country are looking at this woman like she is the second coming.
i have looked up info on her to see what she is for and against. i have learned some things that i dont like at all. shes just a bigger lier as most of thses people in wash. i am neither dem nor rep and women need to get over the thrill as it were… and look at what all this woman stands for. she is so against women i cant even begin to state it all. she is against abortion in any form. where i as a woman myself and neither for or against it but i will never get in the way of another womans choice to choose. i truly fear that if she and mccain get into the whitehouse what is to come. the over turn of roe v wade and that one thing alone will bring all kinds of trouble with women going to crazy lengths to do what they feel they need to do. PLEASE WOMEN OF AMERICA PLEASE PLEASE I BEG OF YOU LOOK AT ALL THIS WOMAN IS FOR AND AGAINST…. BECAUSE IF YOU VOTE FOR HER JUST BECAUSE SHES A WOMAN THEN YOU WILL REGRET IT. DO YOUR HOMEWORK ON NOT ONLY HER BUT ALL THE PEOPLE THATS RUNNING . THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME VOICE MY VIEWS

Posted by: renee | September 23, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm

When I first saw that Hillary was running for president, I was mortified. Just the thought of another clinton getting near the white house really bothered me since bill was the cause of 9/11 and had osama handed to him twice but let him go. Also, they were the ones who pushed for everyone should own a home and look what that has done to our economy. The media today is so biased toward obama that even you fools are now jumping on the bandwagon. You claim falsehoods against someone you know nothing about. Banning books, please half the books they claimed where not even out when she was mayor. Not everyone in this country are as ignorant as you osama lovers are. We actually do our homework and make an intelligent pick when it comes to leading this country. Obama has done nothing to better the U.S. You womenagainstpalin are just like today’s media. You are totally bias and one-sided. I cannot wait until the lawsuits come out on false reporting and smearing that has taken place during this election. We, the American people have been threatened by riots, lied to, and have not been given the right to our voice. CNN, MSNBC, ABC, Cafferty, The View, Oprah, ACORN to name a few and now “WAP”. The media refuses to report on Rev Wright, Ayers, Campaign money received from terrorist groups, Voter registration fraud (ACORN) or anything negative that might deal with Obama. They used these same tactics during the primaries and that is why Hillary was not your pick. Now we have “The Messiah” “The One”. If you really would do your homework instead of trying to smear a true American, you would see everything I have said is true. Your goal is to keep a female from office without knowing the truth. Shame on you. You females are exactly where you belong, fighting against your own progression

Posted by: Adrian | September 23, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm

I am an Independent white voter. I am disappointed as to who McCain selected as his running mate for V.P. I thought a lot of Sarah Palin at first, then I realized that she will be just like George Bush. If this woman was smart and updated on world issues, then I can see why McCain chose her.
During Palin’s interviews it was obvious that she (Palin) did not know what she was talking about. It takes an idiot not to see that she is not able to handle this country and world matters. Now, if she were Hillary Clinton or any other intelligent, smart, experience or Republican woman, then McCain would have my vote. Romney or Huckabee would have been a much better selection.
I was insulted as a woman for John McCain not to pick any other intelligent Republican woman, or better yet he could have chosen Romney or Huckabee. John McCain did not pick Palin for her experience; he picked her because he wanted attention. I am just so tired of the other countries laughing and thinking we Americans are stupid and always select stupid people in office. If John McCain were selected, then some men in this country would think that all women are weak, stupid, and flighty, because of Sarah Palin. This would set women back in this country. John McCain is only using Sarah Palin. He will treat her like dirt later. Some people on this site says that John McCain and his wife has character; I guess we could possibly have an used to be adulter and his wife, a use to be mistress and drug addict. According to the National Enquirer newspaper, Palin cheated on her husband,and she and her husband were in an organization that wanted to pull the state of Alaska to secede from the U.S. So, does Palin and her husband have character? McCain should have checked her background out more thoroughly.
Ron Paul, Bob Barr, and the other Independents who are running for president are people of character. I wonder if Obama has character. I guess we will find out.

Posted by: Wenda | September 26, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm

To Adrian
Which one of the people running for president or vice president is NOT a TRUE AMERICAN??????

Posted by: nina | September 28, 2008, 12:25 am 12:25 am

Let me start off by saying that I am a proud DEMOCRAT!!!!!
It amazes me constantly at the hypocrisy of some republicans. You hide behind Christianity but the real demon always appears. I follow the teachings of Jesus Christ and I have never seen so much hate especially from HELEN, ADRIAN, etc. It is one thing to discuss the issues but the issues do not seem to matter.
In this race, we can only go on what they say and who we really believe in. McCain said that this race will not be about issues but personality. WRONG!!! The race is about race unfortunately. If Obama was white, McCain would not have a chance. I work with many bigots and they say “I can’t vote for a black person.” At least they know it and can admit it. Why must race play such an important part in EVERYTHING!! You know why?? Because so many of you do not believe in the teachings of Jesus Christ. I do and it shocks me the hate you read about both presidential candidates. I particulary think Palin is a big joke but I do not hate or dislike her. I think her entire situation (from DUI and separatist husband down to her pregnant daughter) is hilarious. I also thought the way she paraded her pregnant teen and bragged on the upcoming shotgun wedding was disgusting. Still, I do not hate her. Those are her battles, not mine besides those are not the issues. But no one cares about the issues anymore.

Posted by: nina | September 28, 2008, 12:36 am 12:36 am

Nina you make very very good points
about this woman…. i dont understand people in this country at all. how hard is it to look up the facts… but the bottom line is that she doesnt need to be vp or possibly pres. if mccains old ass kicks the bucket…. i have to put it that way because i dont like the man… and no i am not a Dem.. and no i am not a Rep. either.. what sticks in my gut is that he picked her not because she was qualified but shes just a token pick….i dont see how people dont see that…. i dont care what party your from… how can she even stand next to him when he voted against equal pay for women…. i guess women dont matter to either of them… but what also gets unders my skin about him being mccain is that he talked about how he loves the vets and they know that he will take care of them…when he has voted against funding for them or not even bothered to show up to vote… he has voted against the GI bill i mean what an ass but anyway this isnt about him we are talking about her… she cant even stand up and face the music on this troopergate thing… how cowardous is that… from her down to her husband and on to her aides… if she has nothing to hid then she would have answered their questions and gotten it over with… but she is ducking and running for cover after saying she would cooperiate… people only see what they want to see… in people they dont want to face the truth…. i see that in some of the respones written here…mccain only met her once… what does that tell you all… he didnt fully check into her…. he waited to see who obama was going to pick and when he didnt pick Hillary then he saw his chance…. and just grabbed someone….. he hasnt got the sense… sugar cube….. thats been stepped on….

Posted by: renee | September 28, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm

If these Palin supporters truly believe that a woman is qualified simply because she IS a woman, then they are the ones who are putting the fight for women’s rights in this country back 100 years.
McCain pulled Palin in knowing she wasn’t qualified, but that she would appeal to the “Joe Six-Pack” who likes to think about having sex with her, and the “hockey moms” he knew wouldn’t have the time to really look at the fine details of the debates or the reality of her ineptitude (don’t believe me? just watch some of their responses to her candidacy..they are as lacking as her responses to any significant question).
Just ask yourself this question; do you REALLY want a vice president who can’t even name ONE publication that they read daily about world and domestic affairs. There is no question she may have some talents, but she should be Tina Fey, not the vice president of THIS country!

Posted by: Roxanne | October 5, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm

I went to college and have 2 AS degrees and A BS degree in Bus Management.
I competed in Beauty pageants in my younger days, I divorced my husband because I wanted to go to college and learn. He liked me participating in Pageants and said I should take up gourment cooking and not math and stats. I wasted my life and my money learning when I should have been putting on lipstick. Palin is very mean in her presentations, but she always looks good. And I know as a woman I have learned my lesson. We will never get ahead being intelligent looks are really the only thing that matters for us. I only wish I would have not wasted my money on college and saved it for a face lift. Being liberal has gotten me know where. I want to stay home and clean a house and get my hair done instead of working 12 hour shifts back to back. Palin is a genius. She did the least amount of work to get ahead. She even gets to bring her children to work with her.
And her oldest daughter does a great job raising Trig. The Women is a genius.
She makes everyone think she is not so smart and makes mistakes and its ok because she doesn’t know better. ?
THE WOMAN IS A GENIUS

Posted by: disappointed | October 8, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am

Ya know, when you call you wife a c–t, you don’t have to hit her. McCain is abusive to women, he’s dishonest, manipulative, and angry. And yes, Palin is a political whore for hookin’ up with him. She will do ANYTHING to gain political power for the purpose of advancing her personal agenda. Her abuse of power in AK, her secretiveness, disrespect of those who disagree with her, and blatant disregard for the rule of law are personality characteristics that will only intensify with the power of the VP behind her. Need I go on? Knowledge, education, experience, ability, skills (obviously lack of).

Posted by: Patti Brown | October 9, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am

No Palin-No McCain.
They do not care about the welbeing or the welfare of mainstream American. To busy slandering. Talk about solutions for the education system, unemployment and healthcare. People are really struggling and all you people care about are the peers of Sarah Palin. Most of these people are wealthy and can never relate to those that are struggling even with college degrees. They look out for themselves and the heck with everyone else. It’s sad. These people are so nasty with how they debate. No dignity, and no respect for citizens outside of their class.

Posted by: Donna | October 10, 2008, 2:03 am 2:03 am

Looks like McCain just gave the presidency to Obama..It is time for him to DUMP Sarah and get a real candidate, not just a pretty face.

Posted by: Sue | October 11, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm

Sarah Palin doesn’t even understand what a V.P. does all day, and should know that asking on national T.V. is going to make her look like an ignorant second grader who, surprisingly, has two years of leading experience. She’s under investigation for corruption in her own state, for goodness sake, and she wants to be the vice president of the United States? McCain is 74 and has had cancer 4 times. There’s a 30% chance that he’ll die in office, if he does, we’re stuck with Palin. If Palin doesn’t know what a V.P. does all day, she won’t have a clue as to what the President does! This is a woman we’re sending to meetings with leaders of countries that already don’t like us that much. Sending her to those meetings is basically like a transition straight into World War 3! I don’t think we need a President, or a VICE president, where one’s living in the past, and one wants polar bears off the endangered species list. She thinks she can see Russia out of her backyard. She lives in ALASKA! You’d have to live on one of the far islands to see Russia. I’m not saying she’s not a perfectly nice person, which, she may very well be, but she does not have the qualification, intellectuality, or knowledge of the job, or WORLD MAP for that matter, to be our V.P.

Posted by: AMC in AZ | October 12, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm

Palin is a joke, Julia Dreyfuss the 2nd..everyone thought Clinton was an old hag,,she knows how to run a country,,Palin knows how to try to act..and can’t even do that successfully..shes a joke..her hubby may be the one running the show, heard he is all around all the time..and as far as her special needs child, I commend her,,but parading that child in front of all of America is a ploy she needs her ass kicked thats a pity ploy and her daughter pregnant oh hell yeah,great role model for everyone..McCain just picked her for publicity because he’s too damn old to run the country,,has the scars to prove it,I commend him for his act in the war,,but his scars are from there not congress or washington..and I AM TIRED OF HEARING Obama is a terriorist he is trying to play the ole RACE CARD and get Obama hurt..PALIN AND MCCAIN NEED TO GO SIT DOWN and leave the country to fresh minds fresh ideas and CHANGE.

Posted by: gerry | October 20, 2008, 5:32 am 5:32 am

Palin is a joke, Julia Dreyfuss the 2nd..everyone thought Clinton was an old hag,,she knows how to run a country,,Palin knows how to try to act..and can’t even do that successfully..shes a joke..her hubby may be the one running the show, heard he is all around all the time..and as far as her special needs child, I commend her,,but parading that child in front of all of America is a ploy she needs her ass kicked thats a pity ploy and her daughter pregnant oh hell yeah,great role model for everyone..McCain just picked her for publicity because he’s too damn old to run the country,,has the scars to prove it,I commend him for his act in the war,,but his scars are from there not congress or washington..and I AM TIRED OF HEARING Obama is a terriorist he is trying to play the ole RACE CARD and get Obama hurt..PALIN AND MCCAIN NEED TO GO SIT DOWN and leave the country to fresh minds fresh ideas and CHANGE.

Posted by: gerry | October 20, 2008, 5:32 am 5:32 am

I cant believe what McCain has become. I once had respect for him, but he has become another creep politician. ROBOCALLS…???? When McNasty ran aginst Bush, he vowed not to stup to these filthy levels…now look at him!! I’m sure this is the RNC’c doing, because McCain has much more class. Looks like most Americans are not falling for the filthy divisive tricks of the past…I wouldnt dare be part of electing a creep into the white house…MCCAIN CAN FORGET MY VOTE !!!!

Posted by: Ricki Lake | October 20, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

Obama for president, Palin for HOCKEY MOM OF THE YEAR..that is HER resume, besides carrying a rifle on her hip..should call her PISTOL CARRYIN PALIN…IF McCain is elected,,god forbid he passes on how in the hell does she have the credentials to run a country? She can’t even control her own daughter and keep her in track from gettin knocked up…as i said before…good role model,,just like Brittney Spears and her little sister,,why not let them in men,,thats all your lookin at anyway…your not looking at the persons abilities just their physical appearance,,Palin is HOT? Lord have mercy, must be alot of ole geezer’s out there,she looks like a school marm.

Posted by: gerry | October 21, 2008, 9:15 am 9:15 am

I’ve noticed that many of the pro-Palin comments have slowed down. Could it be because she has been found to have abused her power while governor, she paid for her kids’ travel with state funds, she has been found to have spent $150,000 on clothes since her nomination, she has claimed foreign policy experience because Russia is close to Alaska, she said New Hampshire was in the great Northwest, she has incited violence at her rallies, she insinuated that democrats were fake Americans and last but not least, couldn’t tell a third grader what the responsibilities of the vice president are?

Posted by: Amy | October 22, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm

We women could learn a thing or two from the African American Communtiy like being Proud of our gender. And proud that we have finally gotten to a point that we have this opportunity. I think this show African American Men have surpassed Women of all race. Mabe the cat scratching has something to do with this. Watch The View, and you can clearly see women have alot to learn…

Posted by: angela | October 23, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm

Most people who throw the word socialist around could not even define it if they wanted to. It is a Republican/Fox News talking point and that is all.
To see how the candidates have voted in the senate go to Project Vote Smart and check it out.
McCAIN
2007 American Civil Liberties Union gave Senator McCain a grade of 50.
2005-2006 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Campaign for America’s Future 17 percent in 2005-2006 on energy legislation.
2007 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Environment America 0 percent in 2008.
2007-2008 In 2007-2008 National Education Association gave Senator McCain a grade of F.
2007-2008 In 2007-2008 Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America gave Senator McCain a grade of D.
2006 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Disabled American Veterans 20 percent in 2006.
2007-2008 Based on a point system, with points assigned for actions in support of or in opposition to Federation for American Immigration Reform’s position, Senator McCain received a rating of 44.
OBAMA
2007 American Civil Liberties Union gave Senator Obama a grade of 80
2005-2006 Senator Obama supported the interests of the Campaign for America’s Future 100 percent in 2005-2006 on energy legislation.
2007 Senator Obama supported the interests of the Environment America 90 percent in 2008.
2007-2008 In 2007-2008 National Education Association gave Senator Obama a grade of A.
2007-2008 In 2007-2008 Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America gave Senator Obama a grade of B.
2007-2008 Based on a point system, with points assigned for actions in support of or in opposition to Federation for American Immigration Reform’s position, Senator Obama received a rating of 25.

Posted by: Sarah | October 26, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm

It is embarrassing for women everywhere how she has been treated. And what kind of message is this giving to our daughter’s and young women when accomplishments such as being governor is ignored and what clothes she wears is given so much press. The media says “Who cares what you’ve accomplished! What we really want to know is what did you wear and what do you read?” It is still true that a women has to work twice as hard and be twice as good to earn the same position as a man. Apparently she has to run for VP and President while Biden only has to run for President.

Posted by: Jenni | October 28, 2008, 12:31 am 12:31 am

Hello All:
Yea I think the $150,000.00 for clothes cuts true to the lie that Palin is a sorta gosh by golly Joe six Pack “average” JT Plumber sort of person. She is truly elitist and dishonest at every level including the Trooper Gate scandal or a she calls it “Taser Gate”- another crooked Republican from the most crooked state in the Union- alaska
A good pick for Democrats– Thanks McCain– your hallow and narrow minded view has pretty much sealed the deal for Obama. Also Palin in 2012- we can only hope- just keep runnin’ that nag.

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Posted by: kayla | November 1, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm

It’s America’s loss that Sarah Palin and John Mccain are not the elected president and the VP. All you dumb middle class people that voted for obama, you guys are all gonna loose your money. I haven’t got one good reason as to why Obama and Biden should be in office. My parents’ hardworking money is going to go to people that are too lazy to work…Screw sharing the wealth

Posted by: Sarah | November 13, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm

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There are dead Tibetans, Indians and Soviets who would question the assertion that China is not outward looking. They may not be bold about it (yet) but they continue to probe not only those on their borders but the US as well (surprise showing of the stealth fighter, development of carrier killer missiles, supply of arms and technology to rogue states like Iran). There is also the testosterone bomb ticking away there due to a shortage of women thanks to the one child policy. A little military adventurism is a sure outlet for the angst of un-paired male appetites and if done right could even relieve them of some excess old folks as their own demographic baby boom becomes a burden.

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