By Natalie Gewargis

Oct 30, 2008 5:36pm

33.5 Million Watch Obama Infomercial

ABC News’ Kate Barrett Reports: More than 33.5 million people watched Democratic candidate Barack Obama’s message Wednesday night on primetime television, according to today’s Nielsen ratings.

The 30-minute infomercial aired at 8 p.m. last night on seven networks and cable stations, immediately drawing reviews from political analysts Wednesday evening, which continued throughout the morning Thursday.

The lengthy ad featured average American families talking about the challenges they face as Obama outlined his policy plans should he win the White House. The production ended with Obama speaking live from a campaign rally in Florida.

By comparison, the three presidential debates between Obama and Republican opponent John McCain brought in between 52.4 and 63.2 million viewers each, Nielsen reported.

According to Nielsen, the last comparable long-form campaign advertisement, featuring third-party candidate Ross Perot, bought in nearly 22.7 million viewers.

In addition to the more than 33 million people who watched the senator’s infomercial, Obama’s appearance on Comedy Central’s Daily Show last night sparked the highest-rated episode of the show’s history.

User Comments

Yes, it really changed my mind. From now on, we will follow our Dearest Leader to the Promise Land of Common-Good-Society, in which we all have the highest spirits from each according to his ability and to each according to his need.
Long Live Comrade 0bama!
Yes We Can.

Posted by: factcheck | October 30, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm

It was a great show.. and touched to the core of most Americans today who are facing our economic problems together. I think most realize that McCain is just a third term of Bush and this country can’t stand more of that. This just drove that message home.
Obama in 2008 – for the future of America!

Posted by: willy | October 30, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm

I may not make much money, but I do feel it is wrong to take from others.

Posted by: Roger | October 30, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm

They should have watched Larry King where McCain says Obama is NOT a socialist. Does this man remember what he says from day to day?
In an interview with Larry King that aired last night, John McCain admitted that he doesn’t think Barack Obama is a socialist, which runs counter to most of his campaign rhetoric for the past week.
Transcript, via CNN:
KING: You don’t believe Barack Obama is a socialist, do you?
MCCAIN: No. But, I do believe — I do believe that he’s been in the far left of American politics. He has stated time after time that he believes in “spreading the wealth around.” He’s talked about courts that would redistribute the wealth.
He has a record of voting against tax cuts and for tax increases. And I don’t think there’s any doubt that he would increase spending and he would, sooner or later, we would be increasing taxes. There is no doubt in my mind that that’s what his record — 94 times he voted to cut taxes — against tax cuts and for tax increases. He voted for — and that’s what matters. Not rhetoric. To raise taxes on individuals making $42,000 a year.
KING: Concerning spreading the wealth, isn’t the graduated income tax spreading the wealth? If you and I paid more so that Jimmy can get some for him, or pay for a welfare recipient, that’s spreading the wealth.
MCCAIN: Well, that’s spreading the wealth in the respect that we do have a graduated income tax. That’s a far cry from taking from one group of Americans and giving to another. I mean, that’s dramatically different.
Sen. Obama clearly has talked about for years, redistributive policies. And that’s not the way we create wealth in America. That’s not the way we grow our economy. That’s not the way we create jobs.

Posted by: Jwench | October 30, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm

I didn’t watch the infomercial but I watched him on The Daily Show. It was great.

Posted by: Tbone | October 30, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm

Obama/Biden by a landslide! Any Republicans left in office should go to Iraq and hold it down while the troops come home!

Posted by: john copeland | October 30, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm

Oh some of you are so gullible …’take from others’ … hell, there is tax collection isn’t there ??? Wake up.
Obama is this generations JFK.

Posted by: wayne | October 30, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm

You smart asses, I swear. It was a GREAT show of pride and love for the American people which we have NOT seen for a long long long long time. We finally have someone that honestly cares and he is going to do the best he can to make it happen. So rock on Obama, you go

Posted by: Wendy | October 30, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm

How is taxing the rich stealing? The rich have been stealing from the working middle class since Ronald Reagan.

Posted by: tsmilo | October 30, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm

My family was so touched by last night’s presentation, that my 13 year old daughter was moved to tears with the hope that our country will be restored. I am so glad I cast my vote for Barack Obama!

Posted by: moosedog | October 30, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm

We may make a little over $150,000 in a metro city, but that is not a lot with all the bills and a tax increase coming our way if Obama wins. He has said 250 and then it was 200, but what can you really believe at this point from a person hat just wants your vote.

Posted by: Lou | October 30, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm

A question of perspective :Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin, what if things were switched around? Think about it. Would the country’s collective point of view be different? Could racism be the culprit?
Ponder the following: What if the Obama’s had paraded five children across the stage, including a three-month-old infant and an unwed, pregnant teenage daughter? What if John McCain was a former president of the Harvard Law Review?• What if Barack Obama finished fifth from the bottom of his graduating class?• What if McCain had only married once, and Obama was a divorcee?• What if Obama was the candidate who left his first wife after a severe disfiguring car accident, when she no longer measured up to his standards?• What if Obama had met his second wife in a bar and had a long affair while he was still married? • What if Michelle Obama was the wife who not only became addicted to painkillers but also acquired them illegally through her charitable organization?• What if Cindy McCain graduated from Harvard?• What if Obama had been a member of the Keating Five? (The Keating Five were 5 US Senators accused of corruption in 1989, igniting a major political scandal as part of the larger Savings and Loan crisis of the late 1980s and early 1990s.)• What if McCain was a charismatic, eloquent speaker?• What if Obama couldn’t read from a teleprompter?• What if Obama was the one who had military experience that included discipline problems and a record of crashing seven planes?• What if Obama was the one who was known to display publicly, on many occasions, a serious anger management problem?• What if Michelle Obama’s family had made their money from beer distribution?• What if the Obama’s had adopted a white child?• You could easily add to this list. If these questions reflected reality, do you really believe the election numbers would be as close as they are? This is what racism does. It covers up, rationalizes and minimizes positive qualities in one candidate and emphasizes negative qualities in another when there is a color difference.
EDUCATION BACKGROUND:• Barack Obama: Columbia University – B.A. Political Science with a Specialization in International Relations. * Harvard – Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude / Joseph Biden: *University of Delaware – B.A. in History and B.A. in Political Science. *Syracuse University College of Law – Juris Doctor (J.D.) vs. • John McCain: *United States Naval Academy – Class rank: 894 of 899 / Sarah Palin: * Hawaii Pacific University – 1 semester *North Idaho College – 2 semesters – general study * University of Idaho – 2 semesters – journalism *Matanuska-Susitna College – 1 semester *University of Idaho – 3 semesters – B.A. in Journalism.
Education isn’t everything, but this is about the two highest offices in the land as well as our standing in the world. You make the call.

Posted by: Michelle Angelique | October 30, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm

He has said 250 and then it was 200, but what can you really believe at this point from a person hat just wants your vote.
Posted by: Lou | Oct 30, 2008 5:50:24 PM
He has said all along that it is $200,000 for a single person and $250,000 for a married people. Look it up.

Posted by: Jwench | October 30, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm

I feel hope.

Posted by: hang | October 30, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm

I JUST FEEL ITS TIME WE HAD A SMART PRESIDENT WHO ACTUALLY REMEMBERS TO PUT THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE FIRST. McCAIN WANTS TO REWARD THE RICH AND MAKE THEM RICHER, HOW IS THAT PROGRESS WHEN PEOPLE ARE GOING THRU A FINACIAL CRISIS? THAT MAKES NO SENSE

Posted by: CALIFORNIA MAN | October 30, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm

Obama isn’t going to “take” money from the rich and give to the poor. He is simply going to make the rich pay their fair share (which they don’t due to tax loopholes and other deceit) and help to ease some of the burden for the middle class. He also believes and supports unions which are central to enabling working Americans to be able to take care of their families without government assistance.

Posted by: Irby gal | October 30, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm

my 13 year old daughter was moved to tears with the hope that our country will be restored.
Posted by: moosedog | Oct 30, 2008 5:50:11 PM
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Does she understand to what he is “restoring” it?
Blindness caused 8 years of disaster under Bush. Now, you learned nothing.

Posted by: skinny dog | October 30, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm

Was Clinton a Socialist? we had some of the largest economic growth we have ever seen, Obama’s tax plan is very akin to Clinton’s. In fact even John McCain’s plan is progressive in that if you make more money you pay more, does this make him a socialist? the difference in there tax plans is mainly focus of the dispersion, real socialists and communists are laughing at the republican’s absurd attempt to link him to socialism.

Posted by: Eric | October 30, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm

Posted by: Michelle Angelique | Oct 30, 2008 5:52:16 PM
Excellent,excellent post.

Posted by: Jwench | October 30, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm

There is another name for “spreading the wealth around.” It is called civilization.

Posted by: jock59801 | October 30, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm

hussein must be in narcissistic heaven.
Just in case he didn’t fully explain his loony-left welfare plan and his related radical wealth re-distribution plan, here is a summary that even a hussein sycophant might understand (provide somebody reads it to them very, very S-L-O-W-L-Y):
1. hussein will raise taxes (somebody has to pay for this welfare). As plagiarist-joe biden said: RAISING TAXES IS “PATRIOTIC”. plagiarist-joe also recently blurted out that hussein is, in fact, lying when he says that only those with incomes above $250K will get tax increases. According to plagiarist-joe, that figure is now down to $150K and likely to go lower. OPEN YOUR WALLETS, AMERICA!
2. Since most of hussein’s supporters don’t contribute to society, don’t earn meaningful income and therefore don’t pay taxes, hussein plans to re-distribute wealth by giving the tax money paid by hard-working, successful Americans to these people via a tax credit. For example, consider those college pukes that primarily live off their parents for drug money (and probably will do so for the rest of their lives). Say they earn a few dollars flipping-burgers, and pay no income taxes. Under hussein’s plan, even these pukes WILL GET A CHECK OF $1000 FROM THE IRS.
3. Thus hussein will, in fact, create the biggest welfare system ever in the world. He will penalize those that work hard and are successful, and provide cash payment to those slugs and slackers that don’t contribute.
4. his socialististic plan for social secuirty is along the same lines – but even more frightening, since it will accelerate the bankruptcy of this vital program
For every hard-working American: be afraid, be very afraid of hussein’s plans to socialize America. Reject this shallow, arrogant, platitude-spouting, inexperienced, drug-addicted, elitist, narcissistic, flip-flopping gas-bag who is so mentally deficient from extensive drug use he even has to plagiarize his hollow platitudes. Instead, vote for somebody who will reform the Washington mess – instead of making it an even more horrific monster.

Posted by: ALEX H. | October 30, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm

How could you not watch it, it was freakin’ every where! I’m suffering from “Obama Overload” and am so sick of seeing him and hearing from him that I’d be willing to vote for him if he’d just shut up! My god, he’s obnoxious. Oh… just kidding about voting for him – I don’t feel like becoming the next Canada.

Posted by: Cronn | October 30, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm

One of many things I really liked about this 30 minute video was the diversity represented. Look at the people in McCain/Palin videos and all you see is a bunch of pale faces staring back. Go Obama!!!

Posted by: Jeffers13450 | October 30, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm

If it were not an infomercial, he may regret what’s being said. When he is not well rehearsed, we are always in for a good story & more broken promises.

Posted by: Tom | October 30, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm

He has said all along that it is $200,000 for a single person and $250,000 for a married people. Look it up.
Posted by: Jwench | Oct 30, 2008 5:52:37 PM
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Except he does not spell out to inform you in his infomercial that it is a Marriage Tax Penalty for a couple on $150K extra than two unmarried singles.
0bama = Marriage Tax Penalty.

Posted by: skinny dog | October 30, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm

Posted by: Eric | Oct 30, 2008 5:54:37 PM
Even John McCain said that he isn’t a socialist. I don’t know about anybody else but I am all for trying something new and different.

Posted by: Jwench | October 30, 2008, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm

Anyone who has ever voted for President based on tax issues, has voted to redistribute wealth. The ONLY question is whether we redistribute it up or down. Bush redistributed it upward, and now we want it BACK.

Posted by: jock59801 | October 30, 2008, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm

Jock59801 – I like the way you think!!! I’ve seen some of your other posts and you really make good sense. Thanks for sharing your thoughts! -Moosedoggy

Posted by: moosedog | October 30, 2008, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm

Hi From Switzerland;
Watched this on video. Reminded of what I thought of America in the old days before September 11. You guys sure suffered over that and this reminded me not to be so angry at you for the awful stuff we had to go through because of this.
Good luck.

Posted by: Garry | October 30, 2008, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm

“We may make a little over $150,000 in a metro city, but that is not a lot with all the bills and a tax increase coming our way if Obama wins. He has said 250 and then it was 200, but what can you really believe at this point from a person hat just wants your vote.”…….Obama said if you earn under 250,000 you will not see a tax increase; if you earn 200,000 or under you will see a tax cut. I’ve heard him say it several times, it’s on his website and does not seem confusing to me. A rough calculation depending on the number of dependents you have and your age, based on 150,000 is that you will see your taxes decrease $1,000. Hold him to it, I will. But you won’t see any cuts under McCain.

Posted by: Mike | October 30, 2008, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm

Lou – Try to follow me on this although it may be hard for some of you uneducated redneck hillbilly Republicans to understand. Obama has not changed anything in his tax postion. It has always been stated that if you make 250,000 a year you WILL NOT see a tax increase. If you make under $200,000 you will see a tax decrease. The way the tax code is set up, those who make between 200,000 and 250,000 their taxes will likely stay the same. Nothing has changed, you Repukes just have comprehension problem.

Posted by: PhilBgood | October 30, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm

I loved it. I watched it with my entire family and I’m so glad that such a huge numbers of Americans also watched. It helped show Obama the man–and he is a good man. It’s high time we elected someone like that to be president.

Posted by: Marine Vet | October 30, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm

I would love to see a program or read an article on the effects this election is having on the mental and physical health of Americans because I am a nervous wreck. All I do is watch political commentary, read about it on the internet and participate in blog discussions. I am afraid that I will experience a sort of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder or Post Partum like depression when this is over. I sometimes feel like I am addicted to this election and I need help. Does anyone else share this anxiety or is it just me?

Posted by: Biafra | October 30, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm

wayne, do you know what you just said?

Posted by: bo | October 30, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm

ExxonMobil announced today they set the biggest national record for quarterly profit and McCain wants to give them additional billions in tax breaks – you want to vote for McCain why?

Posted by: Carole.K | October 30, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm

and take a way the secret ballot. Now that is a good one…Obama. That way union bosses can bully people when it comes to voting.

Posted by: Marty | October 30, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm

After this Obama guy spent millions of dollars on tv commercials………and after watching him “performing” in his own “oval office” infomercial……..
Why am I having difficulty trusting him?
Why am I still thinking that Hillary Clinton was the best chance we had for a democratic party victory?
Why do I find John McCain’s story and experience more compelling than Obama’s?
Why do I still find Obama’s anti-American associations very disturbing?
Why?!
In the next few days, Obama will be spending millions of dollars more in these very difficult economic times.
The problem is……..
He will never succeed in buying my vote!

Posted by: Virginian | October 30, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm

Of course i watched it. I always watch comedy hour on wednesdays.

Posted by: bo | October 30, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm

I watched and was very moved. If I hadn’t already voted early for him, I would have rushed out today and voted for Obama/Biden. It gave him a chanch for people to see just him–not in a debate where McCain was butting in, lieing–McCain is just an angry old man trying one last time for a last hurrah! and as for Palin–she is so far out of her league-abused power-charged Alaska for kids/husband for travel, her lack of knowledge of any issue, cannot even have a decent interview–they have run a very dirty campaign-and should be ashamed of themselves! Last night was a chance for anyone who hadn’t had the chance to see Obama to see him as he is–a man who we would be proud to call our leader and President of our great country. He, along with Joe Biden, will choose a cabinet who will bring this country back to where we should be!!

Posted by: lola | October 30, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm

AMERICA… RED n BLUE states alike, we need this man in the White House. He is for real, and for those of you who happen to be racist, maybe you can vote for him too, as he is half white.

Posted by: Squierghia74 | October 30, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm

I call this a classic example of socialism that only goes UP – ExxonMobil announced today they set the biggest national record for quarterly profit and McCain wants to give them billions in tax breaks – you want to vote for McCain why?

Posted by: Carole.K | October 30, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm

ALEX H.
The hard-working Americans who are voting for Obama, might think you were being kind of silly, especially when you accuse them of not contributing to society.

Posted by: jock59801 | October 30, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm

Posted by: ALEX H. | Oct 30, 2008 5:55:28 PM
My name is ALEX H the bigot and he approves this message. Do us a favor and keep you backwards thinking to yourself.

Posted by: Jwench | October 30, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm

Lou,
I can’t agree with you more. Let’s have these well educated,smart people in whitehouse this time. We do we insist on having ordinary people at the helm when they are elected to address extra-ordinary problems?

Posted by: t.k. | October 30, 2008, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm

After all the free publicity and the free pass Obama has been given by the network news people, it was nice that he gave some money to them …

Posted by: Francisco Cardenas | October 30, 2008, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm

Yep, I listened to that bull when he ran for senator and I voted for him. Now I know that the say anything do nothing senator does not live up to his word. Just take a long look at the Illinois Dem control government and think that this man is going to take it national. I hope everyone will feel the pain that we do in Illinois.

Posted by: Hagar | October 30, 2008, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm

Mike, you make 150,000. Well according to the OBAMA tax calculator, if you are single and make 101,000 you get ZERO $0 tax saving with Obama. Check out his calculator for yourself.

Posted by: bo | October 30, 2008, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm

Today on my way to lunch I passed a homeless guy with a sign that read “Vote Obama, I need the money.” I laughed.
Once in the restaurant my server had on a “Obama 08″ tie, again I laughed as he had given away his political preference–just imagine the coincidence.
When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone who I deemed more in need–the homeless guy outside. The server angrily stormed from my sight.
I went outside, gave the homeless guy $10 and told him to thank the server inside as I’ve decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was grateful.
At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient deserved money more.
I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application.

Posted by: Capitalism | October 30, 2008, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm

Virginian
I don’t know. Why?
Nobody is buying your vote unless you are selling it. Vote for who you want, like everybody else.

Posted by: jock59801 | October 30, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm

I think I prefer ideas that don’t require a soundtrack to make them palatable.

Posted by: Chris | October 30, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm

The infomercial was a desperate attempt to reel in idiots.
Someone tell me how Bill Clinton could say just 2 months ago that “obama is a fairytale not qualified to be President”.
And then hug and kiss him on a stage last night.
I will tell you the are bot liars and at least one of them an adulterer in the Whitehouse for God’s sake and right under his wifes nose.
Yeah, Clinton is a crediable guy!

Posted by: darrylfromindy | October 30, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm

With McCains so-called tax plan my taxes will go up and we only make about 90,000 a year. I have an employer health care plan that costs my employer about 12K a year. Under McCains plan I will have to now pay taxes on that 12K a year. Even after deducting the 5K a year tax credit McCain proposes I will still pay taxes on an additional $7,000. That’s a tax increase of about $800 for me.

Posted by: Drew Hoffman | October 30, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm

ExxonMobil announced today they set the biggest national record for quarterly profit and McCain wants to give them additional billions in tax breaks – you want to vote for McCain why?
Posted by: Carole.K | Oct 30, 2008 5:59:21 PM
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In 0bama’s twisted world, the person who voted against giving big oil tax credits is the one to give them billions of tax break.
But, the very One, 0bama, who voted to support Bush and Cheney to give the big oil tax credits resulted in the Exxon profit, is the Messiah not giving the tax credits.
What is freeking going on, Budda?

Posted by: skinny dog | October 30, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm

Obama is nothing but a lying con artist.

Posted by: Ryan | October 30, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm

I keep hearing this non-sense about Obama changing the level of income where he will increase taxes, he has said it plain and simple, and it has been the same each and every time.
If you make under 250,000 dollars a year in PERSONAL income (not your small business as McCain suggests) your taxes will not go up one penny.
If you make under 150,000 dollars a year your taxes will go DOWN. there is a difference between not changing and going up. If you make under 250,000 dollars a year in personal income you have nothing to worry about, plus if you are making more than 250,000 dollars a year think of the middle class families that are struggling because they aren’t.
For every dollar you have, someone else doesn’t have that dollar, I think greed has run our politics for far too long, it’s about time we have someone running for president who is dedicated to making those positive changes.
Barak Obama 2008!!

Posted by: Senior for Obama | October 30, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm

– Except he does not spell out to inform you in his infomercial that it is a Marriage Tax Penalty for a couple on $150K extra than two unmarried singles. –
You mean the very exact same one that exists today and will exist under either Obama or McCain..
quite a stretch there.. but if you prefer to be ignorant, that is your decision!
Obama in 2008 for a better America!

Posted by: willy | October 30, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm

Posted by: Capitalism | Oct 30, 2008 6:01:53 PM
You Betcha did. Too bad that was posted on here about 4 days ago. Is that in the GOP playbook?

Posted by: Jwench | October 30, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm

Posted by: Michelle Angelique | Oct 30, 2008 5:52:16 PM
I couldn’t have said it better myself. Great job!

Posted by: MH | October 30, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm

Capitalism
That story MIGHT be more effective if 20 different people had not copied it in here in the last few days. You might want to at least put quotes around the stories you take from someone else.

Posted by: jock59801 | October 30, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm

Promises can be broken just like Clinton did not want to raise taxes for the middle class and he did. Gore broke the tie. With Pelosi and Reid making the calls, how can you trust them too.

Posted by: Tom | October 30, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm

I don’t believe a word he says. What makes us believe that Barack Obama won’t become more liberal once he enters the White House? He will have the backing of a Democrat Congress – a Congress that has already warmed to his ideas on issues like taxes and healthcare. He will have the star power that comes along with being the American Idol candidate.
Basic political science 101 says that when a candidate runs for president, he always moves his policies more towards to center … which makes sense, because you are trying to appeal to the greatest number of people in order to be elected. Once the candidate is elected, they can then shift more towards their true political beliefs on the right or the left. Now Barack Obama is currently the most liberal Senator in Washington. Based on this theory, Obama is bound to shift back to the left after he is elected. So my question is … how far will he shift? With all of this momentum, a mandate from the people and no speeds pumps in the legislature, what would be stopping him?

Posted by: MG | October 30, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm

Roger: “I may not make much money, but I do feel it is wrong to take from others.”
The entire basis of modern civilization is “taking from others.” The difference between Obama and McCain’s tax plans is about 4% in the top bracket – you see that as the break point between the only known stable form of government for a first world nation (progressive taxation) and stealing?

Posted by: jhw539 | October 30, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm

OMG PEOPLE give me a break, those who were taken in by OBAMA I mean really what a phony!! He stands there and preaches about helping everyone in this economical crisis and then spends millions to BUY the presidential race. WAKE UP!
He should have RE-DISTRIBUTED THAT MONEY TO THOSE FACING FORCLOSURE.
THUMBS DOWN TO OBAMA he acts like he is the president already. I’m prayin he’s not the next leader of the free world…….

Posted by: Nancy from NJ | October 30, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm

Great piece, Lou:
A question of perspective :Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin, what if things were switched around? Think about it. Would the country’s collective point of view be different? Could racism be the culprit?
Ponder the following: What if the Obama’s had paraded five children across the stage, including a three-month-old infant and an unwed, pregnant teenage daughter? …..

Posted by: Jan | October 30, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm

Moosedog, why are you erroneously stating Obama’s tax policy. Is it because his tax policy is superior to McCain’s. Obama wants to make thing better for the middle class. McCain wants to make things better for rich people. YOU ARE NOT RICH. McCain’s policies will not help KMART republicans like you. For the past eight years they have been laughing about how they duped people like you. WAKE UP, the real republicans have treated you and the rest of us like dirt on the BOTTOM of their shoes. IT IS TIME FOR A CHANGE.

Posted by: ToryWatcher | October 30, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm

Posted by: darrylfromindy | Oct 30, 2008 6:03:46 PM
Because Bill Clinton knows how dangerous McCain is. Put the primary stuff to rest. It’s over and done with.Both Clinton’s got over the loss and are working hard to get Obama elected. BTW I was a Hillary supporter.

Posted by: Jwench | October 30, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm

I think that he’s been very consistent:
200k or less gets a tax break
250k or less stays the same
If I’m not mistaken, that’s on taxable income – so subtract mortgage, etc.
It’s a 3.6% increase in the top bracket – so think about it – if you make $250,100.00, then you would pay 3 dollars and 60 cents more under Obama.
Like he said, back to the level under Clinton. McCain used to have about exactly the same attitude as Obama, until he went far right whacko on us.
And think about this – I have a (wealthy) friend who is a hard core McCain supporter, largely because of the return of the progressive tax under Obama. He is inventing some kind of electronic doo-dad that he can’t tell me about. His target market is people like me – what he doesn’t seem to realize is that I won’t buy his product now, because my budget got clobbered – along with the rest of the middle class. If the tax breaks keep going to the richest 1 – 5%, his market stays at 1-5% of the population. If people like all of us (I’m figuring all the rich folks are out to dinner, not on these blogs) have a fairer deal and can start getting ahead again, then his market grows exponentially.
If Barack Obama’s plan is so bad, why is is supported by the likes of Warren Buffet and Paul Volker?

Posted by: Steve from NH | October 30, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm

Well if you like marxism, this guy is for you. Barack Obama is saying to Joe the plumber that he believes the power of government ought to be used to redistribute wealth in the United States,” to take wealth from productive people and give it to people who have not been as successful. And that is socialism at best — and I think you could even make a case that, in its own way, it’s MARXISM.” This guy will bring down morals and destroy our economy, trust me.

Posted by: Anna | October 30, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm

Why did Obama fly to Hawaii to have the governor seal his birth records? Why is he friends with Ayers, Rezko, Khalidi? Why did Rezko by the lot next to his mansion and then Obama buy part of it back? Seems like Obama is more corrupt than Stevens! Why would you ever want to tax anybody at a federal rate higher than 30%? Small businesses make up more than half of that 5-10% Obama wants to raise taxes on … kiss your job good buy. Recession will turn into depression if we elect Obama.

Posted by: grizzlyo | October 30, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm

jock59801, good posts!
biafra, I sympathize with your anxiety. I’ve found that watching Jon Stewart and the Colbert Report on Comedy Central has really made me laugh hard and get some of the anxiety out of my system. You should try it.

Posted by: Jeffers13450 | October 30, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm

What a suave, smooth talking tell me what I want to hear kinda guy. Give him the emmy allready…America’s doomed.

Posted by: obamanation | October 30, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm

Obama doesn’t work for free – so for all of you who calls him less than a Capitalist? Shame on you. He earns money.
I am glad he is an AMERICAN and will be our next POTUS. He will bring this country back from the brink of moral and financial bankruptcy.

Posted by: Independant American Woman | October 30, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm

The homeless guy was grateful.
At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient deserved money more.
I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application.
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So you’re favoring obama’s plan since he gives taxes back to people who work for a living? Is that it? Because when you talk about Obama wanting to give money to people who don’t pay any taxes, you haven’t read the actual record, or you did and are willfully ignorant or you’re deliberately lying. Only people who pay taxes can get any tax credit under Obama. You know this is true. So which is it? Are you an idiot, illiterate or a liar?

Posted by: USMC | October 30, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm

He said below $250K your taxes will not go up.
Below $200K you get A TAX CUT.
Get it?
IT’S SIMPLE, REALLY.

Posted by: Ed from MA | October 30, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm

Hey Capitalism…
YOU POST the same homeless guy at lunch story every day…. wow you really are generous! you must have given that guy a million bucks already, is it the same waiter serving you each time?

Posted by: Squierghia74 | October 30, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm

he’s good with this, reading what he has to say! in this time of econmic crisis, it’s not good to spend too much money for infomercials!
i’m scared to death with “spreding the wealth around”.
after watching last night, i rather go with MCCAIN/PALIN!!!

Posted by: benn | October 30, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm

I hope all of the republicans loose. Finally we might be able to get something done in our government. I am tired of the negative ads, fear and control of the republicans. I am a Christian and I see a lot of Christians who are republicans because of the evangelican right, but the republicans have made it impossible to vote for them.

Posted by: Erik Smith | October 30, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm

How can anyone know for certain what Obama will do, there are people here that act as if they have had a private conversation with him, and he has spilled his secrets to them. He may just get this country on track again. It amazes me all of the right wingers who do not mind the rich getting a tax break but cry like little girls if the middle class get one. Crazy world maybe they are of the class system and they do not think they deserve the same break that Bush gave the upper echelon?

Posted by: Linda | October 30, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm

HE IS NOT BUYING MY VOTE!!
conservatives, come wed. don’t spend too much time laughing at the lib whiners… (okay, forget i said that) laugh and laugh, and don’t forget to bring your – i told you so’s

Posted by: jason | October 30, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm

MG
Actually, The Economist magazine (center-right) endorsed Obama today, saying they were satisfied he would govern toward the center. Everybody has an opinion, of course.

Posted by: jock59801 | October 30, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm

He should have RE-DISTRIBUTED THAT MONEY TO THOSE FACING FORCLOSURE.
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Firt of all that WOULD be Socialism. Second of all, that is illegal under election law.
IDIOT.

Posted by: USMC | October 30, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm

I am sure the Clintons are getting some assistance for there campaign debt from Obama and that’s why they are helping him out.

Posted by: Mark | October 30, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm

benn
I’m sure the idea of people helping other people is anathema to you, but I wouldn’t be so proud of it.

Posted by: jock59801 | October 30, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm

OBAMA CAN SPEND ALL HE WANTS ON INFOMERICALS, ADS, CARTOONS FOR ALL I CARE.
HE CANNOT BUY MY VOTE!!!

Posted by: bb | October 30, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm

Firt of all that WOULD be Socialism. Second of all, that is illegal under election law.
IDIOT.
Your the idiot where did you learn how to spell …………..J*** O**

Posted by: Nancy from NJ | October 30, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm

Hopefully, the LA Times tape arrives soon enough. The American people have a right to listen to it. How can you trust someone with so many secrets.

Posted by: George | October 30, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm

I would not call that impressive….Sarah Palin had over 80 Million when she first came and over 80 million on the debate with Biden…when you consider there are over 220 Million in this country….33 million is not that impressive 192 Million DID NOT watch him…me either!!

Posted by: mfmros | October 30, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm

Bottom Line….
OBAMA=DOOMED

Posted by: Nancy from NJ | October 30, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm

Anna
I guess you must think McCain is a socialist to, then:
John McCain, Oct. 2000: “So, look, here’s what I really believe, that when you are — reach a certain level of comfort, there’s nothing wrong with paying somewhat more. … And frankly, I think the first people who deserve a tax cut are working Americans with children that need to educate their children, and they’re the ones that I would support tax cuts for first.”
SOUNDS LIKE OBAMA.

Posted by: jock59801 | October 30, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm

I want to know what all of the scared GOP’ers are going to do come Wednesday if Obama is elected POTUS.

Posted by: Jwench | October 30, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm

John McCain is doing what republicans are good at, making EVERYTHING look negative.
Just as one example, John McCain continues to hammer Obama for not accepting public financing for his presidential campaign. This in my opinion is a VERY good thing. I am disappointed that McCain did in fact! By rejecting public financing Obama has not taken a cent of our tax money to pay for his election, every penny came to him freely. McCain supporters should be glad that none of their tax money is going to Obama. As an Obama supporter I am disapointed in McCain’s option to take public financing because that means that my hard earned tax dollars are going to him. End of Story, give it up already…

Posted by: Senior for Obama | October 30, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm

The socialism, marxism, communist thing is so yesterday.. please call me when they come to pick up my tractor to give to the ‘collective’.. in the mean time, stop crying your BS tears in my coffee.
A vote for McCain means you will pay more in taxes so the rich can pay less. A vote for Obama means the middle class can pay less in taxes and the rich a little more. It’s pretty simple. It all goes to government spending, which lately has gone crazy.

Posted by: willy | October 30, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm

Like a lot of folks in this state, I have a job.
I work, they pay me. I pay my taxes and the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit. In order to get that paycheck, I am required to pass a random urine test with which I have no problem. What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people who don’t have to pass a urine test.
Shouldn’t one have to pass a urine test to get a welfare check because I have to pass one to earn it for them? Please understand, I have no problem with helping people get back on their feet. I do, on the other hand, have a problem with helping someone sitting on their butt, doing drugs, while I work. . . . Can you imagine
how much money the state would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a public assistance check?
I guess we could title that program, ‘Urine or You’re Out’.

Posted by: Capitalism | October 30, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm

mfmros: “33 million is not that impressive”
To put it in context, in 2006 the total number of votes was 80,588,000.

Posted by: jhw539 | October 30, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm

Obama should have used some of that money to provide for his Aunt in Boston who lives in the slums…..so much for Obama’s “I am my brothers keeper”!!! Liar, liar, liar!!!

Posted by: mfmros | October 30, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm

I watched and thought WOW!
Then I went to the polls today to an absentee ballot due to not being able to vote on Tuesday.
There was a long line, you know, for a Thursday afternoon, 20 minute wait. People stated that they were there due to being worried that Obama will win. So they are there to help out the McCain- Palin ticket.
So, the informercial kinda helped everyone. Like he said it would.

Posted by: mike | October 30, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm

FYI…voter fraud already happening in Texas….A friend of ours went and tried to vote today….She was told that she had already voted…She said no I have not already voted…Voting Officals pulled up her voting number and said that she had voted on Sunday and voted for Obama…The lady said BS, I did NOT vote and I am voting for McCain….I want to see who sign my name on the voting register….And the rest of the story will come tomorrow….I knew that Slick Willy Obama & all his shaddy friends would go this far to make sure he will win the election….

Posted by: 55Mariposa | October 30, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm

Hopefully, the LA Times tape arrives soon enough. The American people have a right to listen to it. How can you trust someone with so many secrets.
Posted by: George | Oct 30, 2008 6:14:16 PM
How can you trust the person that funded Khalidi at one time? Works both ways.

Posted by: Jwench | October 30, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm

I enjoyed Japanese healthcare for 14 years before moving back to the States. How I miss it! Reasonable costs. Total choice. Don’t believe McCains lies. Universal healthcare CAN work!

Posted by: Ash | October 30, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm

Laugh all you want Republicans. The HORRID leadership of your party creating war and the largest debt increase in WORLD HISTORY will be rewarded this coming Tuesday with a landslide for Obama. GOOD BYE GOP. Come back younger, more intelligent, and with more ideas and less fear.

Posted by: Patrick | October 30, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm

At 41 this is the worst I have seen our country split. We have rednecks hanging Obama and liberals wearing shirts that call Palin a C–t. It does not matter who wins we have lost the civil in civilations. From the outside it looks like half our contry hates each other. My sister a lesbian lives in NYC and is voting for Obama I am a sounthern Baptist living in Nashville voting for McCain I love her and always will. Change in our country is not going to come from on of these two men but from each other.
Racism does plague our country Politics does. God Bless all of you.

Posted by: Jim | October 30, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm

How many people in this forum right now attend church?
And how many people that do attend church have heard their Priest, Minister, Preacher….say GD America.
Well….that phony liar Obama does. And he has listened to that rhetoric for 20 years. He won’t admit it. Its a fact.
Obama is a racist loser and we can expect riots November 5 after he loses.

Posted by: darrylfromindy | October 30, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm

it’s not hard when you’re taking illegal money from foreign powers like Hamas and Hezbolla. It’s well documented; the Obama campaign deliberately does not screen its online contributions and does not turn over data on online contributions under $200, so special interests foreign and domestic have given the Obama campaign millions of dollars each through hundreds of thousands of transactions under $200 for special favors should he become elected.

Posted by: Obamacrat for McCain | October 30, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm

In his new ‘Defining Moment’ ad he says, “Families making under $200,000 get a tax cut.” That is very different from $250,000 for families that he’s been speaking about. His campaign promises are a little too flexible and varied for me to feel comfortable with him as president. I don’t like punishing acheivment and rewarding mediocrity which is what his tax plan does. I’ll benefit from his plan but it just isn’t worth it in the long run to me for short term personal gain. Try to look at the big picture and how it will effect us long term, especially your job if you work for a mid to large size company. Caveat emptor!

Posted by: Oh Please! | October 30, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm

HE CANNOT BUY MY VOTE!!!
Posted by: bb | Oct 30, 2008 6:11:56 PM
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Sadly, he appears to be succeeding. He has been promising to give you $1000 if you vote for him.
Read the blogs, they are all talking about Me, Me, Me. How much more 0bama will give ME.
For those who cry foul of the 8 years of disasters that brought down their spirits and hope of living, you deserve it since you are so easily bought.

Posted by: skinny dog | October 30, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm

I sometimes buy kitchen gadgets from watching infomercials – but as is usually the case with most things sold via infomercial, they usually they end up to be over-priced and not worth the hype. Just like buying a kitchen gadget, hopefully the American people will be smart enough to ignore the fancy sales pitch (most of us know a sales pitch when we hear one), examine the facts and vote solely based on who this candidate was and what he did before he began running for president.

Posted by: Say it ain't so | October 30, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm

Boy, 33K watched.
The Repugs must be gnashing their teeth.
It is really over.
McCain is toast.

Posted by: Steve_NJ | October 30, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm

“I haven’t cleared this with him and he may even be mad at me for saying this so close to the election, but I know what else he said to his economic advisers (during the crisis),” Clinton told the crowd at a Wednesday night rally with Obama in Florida. “He said, ‘Tell me what the right thing to do is. What’s the right thing for America? Don’t tell me what’s popular. You tell me what’s right — I’ll figure out how to sell it.’”

Posted by: david | October 30, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm

Capitalism: “Shouldn’t one have to pass a urine test to get a welfare check ”
The descent of the Republican party into advocating an intrusive, all-powerful government right out of 1984 disgusts me. You’re willing to give up fundamental freedoms and create massive government power structures that could corrupt our nation just to score a petty partisan point? Useful fool indeed.

Posted by: jhw539 | October 30, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm

** What I do have a problem with is the
** distribution of my taxes to people who
** don’t have to pass a urine test.
I don’t think those that make more than $250K are subject to urine tests.. but I guess you could ask them, since your tax money is currently going to them, and will continue, even more so, under McCain.

Posted by: willy | October 30, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm

We are for Obama. We all wish him good luck.

Posted by: mm | October 30, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm

skinny dog
Republican have been promising to cut taxes in elections for over 100 years. Now you think there is something wrong with Obama doing it?

Posted by: jock59801 | October 30, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm

Obama should have used some of that money to provide for his Aunt in Boston who lives in the slums…..so much for Obama’s “I am my brothers keeper”!!! Liar, liar, liar!!!
Posted by: mfmros | Oct 30, 2008 6:16:41 PM
And I just bet you take care of every one of your aunts and uncles. Twit.

Posted by: Jwench | October 30, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm

enough talk already! GET OUT THERE AND VOTE FOR CHANGE!

Posted by: digguron | October 30, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm

Obama is going to have a hard time pulling the country together if elected, unless he starts being HONEST. Is he going to have the main stream media continue to protect him and supress the other outlets that don’t.

Posted by: Peter | October 30, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm

Silly me. When the headline read “Nielson Knockout” I assumed the ad’s ratings would be high. Turns out, that was a bit misleading. Those boring debates attracted twice as many viewers.

Posted by: me again | October 30, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm

BOTTOM LINE 2:
NANCY=Not the fastest horse in the barn!
McCAIN/PALIN = NEANDERTHAL POLITICS + continued DOOM for the middle and working class.

Posted by: Squierghia74 | October 30, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm

*** “Families making under $200,000 get a tax cut.” That is very different from $250,000 for families that he’s been speaking about.
***
Nope, exactly the same thing he has been saying since the start of the election, on his web site, and in his television ads.

Posted by: willy | October 30, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm

I guess we could title that program, ‘Urine or You’re Out’.
Posted by: Capitalism | Oct 30, 2008 6:15:41 PM
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You racist Capitalism. Are you profiling, implicating his black brothers?
“It’s Our Time. It’s 0bama Time”.

Posted by: skinny dog | October 30, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm

you hear 33 million and think it’s a big number – how many watched the vp debate to see sarah palin – ill answer for you 80 million (so even if we split it down the middle libtards – that’s 40 million)
40,000,000 > 33,000,000.
pushing daisies pulled 6.65 million last night going up against THE MESSIAH.
tvbythenumbers has the total number watching on cbs, nbc, and fox at 26.4 million (give each of them a third – even give a little less to fox) and he probably averaged 9.5 million viewers each on nbc and cbs.
NOT VERY IMPRESSIVE, LOOK AT YOUR OWN NUMBERS ABC!!!!

Posted by: jason | October 30, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm

People are coming out in record numbers this election cycle..just to make sure Obama bites the dust!! So far, in the early voting….McCain is ahead…You beggers, looking for a handout better get a job!!

Posted by: mfmros | October 30, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm

And I just bet you take care of every one of your aunts and uncles. Twit.
Posted by: Jwench | Oct 30, 2008 6:20:30 PM
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like we all have 150 mill come in a month
give me a break Obama is a phony!!

Posted by: Nancy from NJ | October 30, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm

Hey Obama just put forth a new revelation about the economy. Tune in for his brilliant deductions and prophetic words!:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27460758/

Posted by: msa123 | October 30, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm

Obamacrat for McCain
Actually, the Republicans have admitted they have absolutely no evidence of that, and John McCain himself has had to return money that was found out to have come from Jordan. It happens.

Posted by: jock59801 | October 30, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm

Wow 33.5 million people watched it. It was pretty good.

Posted by: Nancy | October 30, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm

A friend of mine who “was” undecided on who to vote for watch Obama last…today she said it scared her to death because it reminded her of Hitler…she is not undecided any more…McCain will get her vote!!

Posted by: mfmros | October 30, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm

Update America:
The Associated Press watched it, and surprisingly, the 30-minute infomercial also failed to impress them:
“Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama was LESS THAN UPFRONT in his half-hour commercial Wednesday night about the costs of his programs and the crushing budget pressures he would face in office.
Obama’s assertion that “I’ve offered spending cuts above and beyond” the expense of his promises is accepted ONLY by his partisans. His vow to save money by “eliminating programs that don’t work” masks his FAILURE throughout the campaign to specify what those programs are – beyond the withdrawal of troops from Iraq.”
Calvin Woodward reports that Obama misled viewers on at least five key points in his 30-minute final argument:
–Health care costs – Obama claimed his plan would lower costs by $2500 per year per family, but it DOES NOT. In fact, Obama can’t point to any particular cost reductions. He plans to spend $50 billion over five years on modernization and chronic-disease prevention and presumes that this will lower costs in the future, but in the meantime it RAISES COSTS at least in the short run on everyone (the $50 billion doesn’t come out of thin air).
–The Pay-Go of his plans – NO, he hasn’t demonstrated that he’s found the revenue for his spending, despite his claims last night. Non-partisan analysts believe that his spending programs will ADD at least $428 billion to the DEFICIT in his first term, and that’s if you accept his non-specific pledge to cut spending in other areas.
–Tax cuts for working class families – Before the commercial aired, he had already begun BACKING AWAY from that idea because of the financial crisis, although Obama didn’t acknowledge it in the ad.
–The “right” to affordable health care – Obama DOES NOT guarantee coverage in any of his plans, at least not for adults.
–Getting out of Iraq – Obama noted that the US spends $10 billion a month in Iraq and talked again about “bringing that war to a close” — but he’s BACKED AWAY from his previous pledges to get out on a strict 16-month timetable, which is as fast as the remaining units can be properly withdrawn.

Posted by: Update America | October 30, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm

I thought obama was great and his points are very heartfelt. Mccain might want to have personal conversation with Charles Keating in cell to talk about the old days of deregulation and screwing over the American Economy so we can all LEARN WHAT NOT TO DO. Remeber the Keating 5? Do a Google search. Sad stuff.

Posted by: sean hutch | October 30, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm

Hey, Nance, Where do you think all that money came from anyway?
The money that Senator Obama is spending on his campaign is the money that 6.1 million people like me donated to him to spend on his campaign. I sure didn’t send him checks so he could send them to you.

Posted by: bamboozed99 | October 30, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm

Nancy from NJ
You do know that Obama can not legally give campaign money to anyone he wants? We gave it to him to use on his campaign, so he had darn well better.

Posted by: jock59801 | October 30, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm

*** So far, in the early voting….McCain is ahead.. ***
Umm, not in Florida, where he is significantly behind :)

Posted by: willy | October 30, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm

THE REVEALING OF L.A. TIME TAPE IS THE KEY FOR PALIN- MC CAIN TICKET VICTORY.IT IS THE VICTORY ISSUE AVAILABLE NOW/////////////////
Posted by: ENE MDIAZ | Oct 30, 2008 6:20:24 PM
McCain was on a board that funded Khalidi. I just don’t get the GOP double standard.

Posted by: Jwench | October 30, 2008, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm

Urine Trouble! Politics is a hustling business. Why is the public so shocked to find hustlers?

Posted by: Ash | October 30, 2008, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm

Some people must be living under a rock to think that Obama´s taxation policies are socialism. Obama´s undoing of the tax cuts that Bush gave to the wealthiest 5% or so of Americans is “spreading the wealth around” and that´s a BAD thing? There´s something wrong with that logic. I´m an American now living in London, England and I´ll tell you, I love the public health system they have here. I pay my taxes and get my health care when I want and need it. As much as I like this system, I bet Obama´s will be even better. Go Obama-Biden 08 and beyond. Time to stop this wasteful war, time to spend some of our tax money on the things that matter.

Posted by: George | October 30, 2008, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm

Jock–
Under what “election law” is it illegal to re-distribute money to those facing foreclosure? Do you have an authority to cite to? Perhaps before calling others idiots, you should make sure you are saying idiotic things.
Love and peace.
Vote Bob Barr 2008

Posted by: psyoustink | October 30, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm

How dose someone who works but doesn’t pay income taxes get a tax cut anyway? Once Obama can explain this to me I might vote for him. But right now I just see it has handing money to people who don’t pay in.

Posted by: sam | October 30, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm

To: Steve from NH
The 3.6% increase in tax rate is on your total net income … not just the amount above 250000. So you can’t say that someone who makes 250,100 will pay $3.60 more (i.e. 100*.036). You need to take .036 * your 250,100 to get the different .. or about $9000 more!!!

Posted by: mathwhiz | October 30, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm

Hey, Nance, Where do you think all that money came from anyway?
The money that Senator Obama is spending on his campaign is the money that 6.1 million people like me donated to him to spend on his campaign. I sure didn’t send him checks so he could send them to you.
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Yeah I know where it came from, I just can’t figure out why? Can’t you see he is a phony? Don’t trust the man is all I’m saying.

Posted by: Nancy from NJ | October 30, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm

mfmros
LOL. If Obama reminded your sister of Hitler, I fear for her sanity. Do you have another explanation?

Posted by: jock59801 | October 30, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm

skinny dog
Republican have been promising to cut taxes in elections for over 100 years. Now you think there is something wrong with Obama doing it?
Posted by: jock59801 | Oct 30, 2008 6:20:08 PM
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Please be informed, since you get nothing useful, informative from his Infomercial.
McCain will increase No person’s taxes.
0bama will increase many people’s taxes, starting social security cap, from the current $102K to $150K, a warping $3000 tax alone for those of you making $100K-$150K – just name one.
Worst of all, he redistributes them, to 40% of people who pays no dime of taxes.

Posted by: skinny dog | October 30, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm

Nancy from NJ
Apparently, many millions of Americans disagree with your assessment of Obama. That’s OK. That’s why we have a democracy.

Posted by: jock59801 | October 30, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm

It’s no secret that Alaskan’s have no respect for those of us who live in the ‘lower 48”, but the part that really troubles me is the association and membership that both Sarah and Todd have in the Alaska Independent Party which calls for Alaska to secede from the United States.
AIP founder, Joe Vogler has made the following comments regarding seceding and the United States in general: “The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government,” and “I won’t be buried under their damn flag,”
Sarah and Todd Palin have never repudiated or distanced themselves from those statements.

Posted by: PhilBgood | October 30, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm

The marginal income tax rate was higher under Eisenhower than Bush and no one calls Eisenhower a socialist.

Posted by: Ash | October 30, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm

jock59801, you said: “Republican have been promising to cut taxes in elections for over 100 years. Now you think there is something wrong with Obama doing it?” I think you misunderstand the situation. Bush lowered the tax rate to the lowest point since 1991 for all Americans, across the board, including low-wage earners who became exempt from paying taxes. McCain is talking about EXTENDING those cuts and adding additional cuts and credits aimed at low and middle income workers. Obama is proposing allowing the Bush cuts to EXPIRE across the board, then rewriting the tax code. Yes, he promises lower taxes for people making less then $200,000 a year, but would raise taxes on all others. There’s a big difference – because it’s yet to be determined (until Congress is back in session and the new plan has been written and passed) that he can deliver on his promise.

Posted by: Lil M | October 30, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm

Jwench – Obama should practice what he preaches. So what if it’s just an aunt. If he wants to help those that pay no taxes, what is so different than helping his family. If he wants to spread the wealth, why doesn’t he chip in from the $4 mil they made last year.

Posted by: Sally | October 30, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm

It just amazes me how easily some sheep can be blinded. Sarah Palin just can’t shut up about the money wasted on fruit fly research without bothering to discover the research is forwarding AUTISM, a cornerstone of her campaign! Meanwhile she has been Governor for less time than Obama has been running for President, yet condemns HIM for being inexperienced! She ran on ethics reform, then was found guilty of ethics violations! I could write a whole essay on how stupid she is. John McCain meanwhile can’t help himself from accusing Obama of breaking his word, yet has run the dirtiest campaign ever, despite promising not to! Here’s a guy that literally completely re-invented himself to run for President so all the toothless hillbillies would vote for him because they are afraid of the black man! Yes, Democrats are coming to steal your guns you home-schooled moron! So hole-up in your trailer, stay drunk and crank the Billy-Ray Cirus!

Posted by: Fettastic | October 30, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm

Ed from MA…..WRONG>>>>>Single man/woman with no dependents making 101,000 by Obama’s Own Tax Calculator gets $0 (ZERO) tax savings. Check it out for yourself on his tax calculator. What happened to the $250,000, I mean, $200,000, I mean, $150,000?????????

Posted by: bo | October 30, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm

Born in 1925 I paid poll tax before the Civil Rights Legislation of 1965. I didn’t have to take a literacy test – probably because I am white. The biggest redistribution of wealth in this nation’s history was the tax cut for the wealthy by George W. Bush – but McCain supporters like to ignore that and McCain’s promise to the base (which he courted by getting GWB’s endorsement) that he wan’t to extened those cuts. Since McCain voted repeatedly (as of late last year) against raising the minimum wage (hard to live on at $14k a full year) I have always had a hard time during his “straight talk” campaign that his support for the working men and women didn’t have some strings attached like minimum wage freezes. The phrase “small business” tossed around for some reason except for Senator Obama explaining that most small businesses fall well within his tax cut remain a rally call for McCain, but he has continually supported the Administration’s Labor Secty who has been small business’ worst enemy and heaven knows Ms. Chao (the wife of Republican Mitch McConnel by the way) cut about 100 inspectors from the Mine and Health Inspection agency and that the agency failed to inspect 107 of the 731 underground mines in 2006 (we won’t mention mine disasters like Sego etc. – war is war whether here or abroad and we should just accept death, regardless of accountability or choice). At 83 I could go on for hours about the reason to vote for Senator Obama, but indulge me one minute and let me say one thing – we elders often take care of our rose garden until we can’t – we remember the beauty and the dew on the roses even when we can’t bend over and tend to the problems of bugs and overgrown weeds. We look for a new tender, someone who will take care of the young seeds we planted so long ago. Senator Obama – I give you my vote – please tend to my garden (my lovely America – it has caused me great pain at times, my baby son was killed in Viet Nam – and it has given me great joy and happiness). Look after my garden. Bless everyone.

Posted by: OnTheGloryRoad | October 30, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm

Repugnicants have proven over and over that they have nothing left but vitriol and poison.
Stick a fork in it… your time is done.

Posted by: Vince | October 30, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm

Obama tax package — Taxes go down for couples making under $250,000/year and for single people the threshhold is under $200,000.
The plan is not to take $$$ from the wealthy and hand it over to the less wealthy; rather the increased taxes on the wealthy will go to fund better medical care, etc., for the less fortunate. That’s not socialism; even McCain said so on Larry King.

Posted by: Larsch | October 30, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm

CNN ran a piece today that showed a high school of inner city blacks.
Everyone of them said they wanted to see a black man elected President.
Now if that is not UNEDUCATED, I dont know what is.
It shows how ignorant people can be.
And that is scary.
Get ready for riots when he loses.

Posted by: darrylfromindy | October 30, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm

Posted by: jock59801
What about all his ties Ayers, Wright etc…this doesn’t creep you out at all??

Posted by: Nancy from NJ | October 30, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm

It was great. Let the healing of the nation begin now.

Posted by: Rev. Ike | October 30, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm

It just amazes me how easily some sheep can be blinded. Sarah Palin just can’t shut up about the money wasted on fruit fly research without bothering to discover the research is forwarding AUTISM, a cornerstone of her campaign! Meanwhile she has been Governor for less time than Obama has been running for President, yet condemns HIM for being inexperienced! She ran on ethics reform, then was found guilty of ethics violations! I could write a whole essay on how stupid she is. John McCain meanwhile can’t help himself from accusing Obama of breaking his word, yet has run the dirtiest campaign ever, despite promising not to! Here’s a guy that literally completely re-invented himself to run for President so all the toothless hillbillies would vote for him because they are afraid of the black man! Yes, Democrats are coming to steal your guns you home-schooled moron! So hole-up in your trailer, stay drunk and crank the Billy-Ray Cirus!

Posted by: Fettastic | October 30, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm

It just amazes me how easily some sheep can be blinded. Sarah Palin just can’t shut up about the money wasted on fruit fly research without bothering to discover the research is forwarding AUTISM, a cornerstone of her campaign! Meanwhile she has been Governor for less time than Obama has been running for President, yet condemns HIM for being inexperienced! She ran on ethics reform, then was found guilty of ethics violations! I could write a whole essay on how stupid she is. John McCain meanwhile can’t help himself from accusing Obama of breaking his word, yet has run the dirtiest campaign ever, despite promising not to! Here’s a guy that literally completely re-invented himself to run for President so all the toothless hillbillies would vote for him because they are afraid of the black man! Yes, Democrats are coming to steal your guns you home-schooled moron! So hole-up in your trailer, stay drunk and crank the Billy-Ray Cirus!

Posted by: Fettastic | October 30, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm

It wouldn’t matter to me who was on it…I have a hard time believing 33.5M people chose to watch an infomercial during prime time.

Posted by: Ed | October 30, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm

Great piece, Mitchell Angelique:
A question of perspective :Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin, what if things were switched around? Think about it. Would the country’s collective point of view be different? Could racism be the culprit?
Ponder the following: What if the Obama’s had paraded five children across the stage, including a three-month-old infant and an unwed, pregnant teenage daughter? …..

Posted by: Jan | October 30, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm

Bo – Try to follow me on this although it may be hard for some of you uneducated redneck hillbilly Republicans to understand. Obama has not changed anything in his tax postion. It has always been stated that if you make 250,000 a year you WILL NOT see a tax increase. If you make under $200,000 you will see a tax decrease. The way the tax code is set up, those who make between 200,000 and 250,000 their taxes will likely stay the same. Nothing has changed, you Repukes just have comprehension problem.

Posted by: PhilBgood | October 30, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm

jwench: My family are all self sufficient..however, if one of them needed help…our entire family would help..in a heartbeat! Obama only thinks of himself…his poor old grandma dying??? and HOW much time did he spend with the woman? Give me a break..Obama is an arrogant, egostistical sob….if he cannot help his family what the hell makes you think he will give you anything…get a job!!

Posted by: mfmros | October 30, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm

– Health care costs – Obama claimed his
– plan would lower costs by $2500 per
– year per family,
That was the Wall Street Jounal and other analysis. In all, Obamas plan is superior to McCains, more efficient and would result in more Americans being able to get insurance (47% of currently uninsured americans compared to 7% at peak under McCain)
http://www.epi.org/content.cfm/pm126
– Non-partisan analysts believe that
– his spending programs will ADD at
– least $428 billion to the DEFICIT in
– his first term, and that’s if you
– accept his non-specific pledge to cut
– spending in other areas.
And McCains proposed plans would be almost double that. Funny how it looks different when you actually compare the two instead of just doing a one sided analysis, isn’t it!
– ax cuts for working class familie
Still there.. visit his web site, or check out the analysis at the TPC
http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/
– but he’s BACKED AWAY from his
– previous pledges to get out on a
– strict 16-month timetable
True, he no longer needs to stress that point since Bush and the Generals on the ground are now doing it for him.. apparently you haven’t been reading the news lately.
Your lies are just more of the same, and simply make you look ignorant.. please post some real facts and maybe people would take you more seriously.

Posted by: willy | October 30, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm

like we all have 150 mill come in a month
give me a break Obama is a phony!!
Posted by: Nancy from NJ | Oct 30, 2008 6:22:30 PM
He doesn’t make 150 million a month. . McCain is a liar. Now run along and be scared of the the Obama bogey man like McCain and Palin have been telling you to.

Posted by: Jwench | October 30, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm

All of this talk about the amount of money he spent. Remember it wasn’t public money so if you didn’t donate you should complain.

Posted by: somegoodsomebad | October 30, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm

HURRY, all you naive Obama supporters. He’s ordering you all to VOTE EARLY before more of his shady past comes up and bites him in the ass – again! HURRY, you foolish, clueless libs!

Posted by: Bogey | October 30, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm

Yall are funny, Nobody knows who is ahead in early voting because they haven’t counted the votes yet:)

Posted by: bo | October 30, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm

Ed: “I have a hard time believing 33.5M people chose to watch an infomercial during prime time.”
Trouble believing reality as measured by the private corporation who makes millions and directs billions of dollars in investment based solely on the integrity and accuracy of their numbers (Nielsen)?
Let me guess – proud member of the Republican Party of Ignorance?

Posted by: jhw539 | October 30, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm

Why didn’t he talk about how he is partially responsible for putting our country into this shape?
Read from Investors Business Daily how Barack Obama and the Democrats are responsible for the Mortgage Crisis:
http://epaper.investors.com/Repository/ml.asp?Ref=SUJELzIwMDgvMTAvMzAjQXIwMDEwMA==&Mode=HTML&Locale=english-skin-custom-ibd
Ever wonder why there are no hearings for who in government is responsible for this messup? It’s because the Democrats would be investigating themselves.

Posted by: Michael | October 30, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm

Update America:
Investors Flee From ‘Change’ Obama Hypes
By JACK KEMP AND PETER FERRARA | Posted Monday, October 27, 2008 4:30 PM PT
Are Barack Obama’s proposed tax increases adversely affecting our financial markets? We say yes, unambiguously. The senator has done a masterful job distracting attention from his tax increases with his $500-per-worker tax credit supposedly for 95% of Americans.
Obama has also set forth more than half a dozen additional refundable income tax credits targeted to low- and moderate-income workers for child care, education, housing, welfare, retirement, health care and other social purposes.
These tax credits are devised to phase-out based on income, which will ultimately increase marginal income tax rates for middle-class workers. In other words, as you earn more, you suffer a penalty in the phase-out of these credits, which has the exact effect of a marginal tax rate increase. That harms, rather than improves, the economy.
With the bottom 40% of income earners not paying any federal income taxes, such tax credits would not reduce any tax liability for these workers. Instead, since they’re refundable, they would involve new checks from the federal government.
These are not tax cuts as Obama is promising. They are new government spending programs buried in the tax code and estimated to cost $1.3 trillion over 10 years.
Obama argues that while these workers do not pay income taxes, they do pay payroll taxes. True, but his planned credits do not involve cuts in payroll taxes. They are refundable income tax credits designed to redistribute income and “spread the wealth.”
Meantime, Obama has proposed effective tax increases of 20% or more in the two top income-tax rates, phasing out the personal exemptions and all itemized deductions for top earners, as well as raising their tax rates.
He wants a 33% increase in the tax rates on capital gains and dividends, an increase of 16% to 32% in the top payroll tax rate, reinstatement of the death tax with a 45% top rate, and a new payroll tax on employers estimated at 7% to help finance his health insurance plan. He’s also contending for higher tariffs under his protectionist policies.
Finally, he would increase corporate taxes by 25%, though American businesses already face the second-highest marginal tax rates in the industrialized world, thus directly harming manufacturing and job creation while weakening demand for the dollar.
Obama argues disingenuously that his tax increases would only affect higher-income workers and “corporate fat cats.” But it is precisely these top marginal tax rates that control incentives for savings, investment, entrepreneurship, business expansion, jobs and economic growth. While he wants to tax the rich, the burden will fall on the poor and the middle class.
In their new book, “The End of Prosperity,” Art Laffer, Steve Moore and Peter Tanous argue that the threat of this tax tsunami is already destabilizing our financial markets and causing capital flight from America.
They write, “Hot capital is escaping over the borders out of the United States and flowing into China, India, Europe, and even Japan. . . Starting in late 2007, foreigners started pulling their money out of the United States, and Americans started investing more abroad. Global investors are losing confidence in the U.S.”
The American economy was in shambles when Reagan entered office in 1981. Inflation had soared by 25% over the prior two years, unemployment was heading toward 10%, the prime interest rate hit 21%, poverty was on a 33% upswing and real family income had decreased by almost 10% due to the stagflation of the late 1970s.
Reagan cut the top income-tax rate from 70% to 50%, adopted an additional 25% across-the-board rate cut and sliced capital gains taxes in half. The 1986 tax reform left us with just two tax rates of 15% and 28%. Reagan slashed spending growth, lowered tariffs, reduced regulatory burdens and promoted anti-inflation monetary policies.
The result, the authors explain, was actually a 25-year, noninflationary economic boom, with only two brief, mild recessions in 1990 and 2001. “We call this period, 1982-2007, the 25-year boom — the greatest period of wealth creation in the history of the planet,” they write. “Adjusting for inflation, more wealth was created in America in the 25-year boom than in the previous 200 years.”
By 1989, the economy had grown by almost one-third, the equivalent of adding the entire economy of West Germany to our U.S. economy. In 1984 alone, real economic growth boomed by 6.8%, the highest in 50 years. Nearly 20 million new jobs were created in the 1980s, increasing U.S. civilian employment by almost 20%. Unemployment fell to 5.3% by 1989.
Spectacularly, inflation was slashed to 3.2% by 1983. The prime rate fell to 6.25% by 1992, even though opponents had argued that Reagan’s tax cuts would increase interest rates. Family income reversed its decline, poverty reversed its rise and tax revenues actually doubled.
This is the “Change We Need” today.
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=309998514066924

Posted by: Update America | October 30, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm

George, you said “Some people must be living under a rock to think that Obama´s taxation policies are socialism. Obama´s undoing of the tax cuts that Bush gave to the to the top 5 % of Americans.”
Stop lying. Those cuts were across the board – ALL TAXPAYERS received a cut. It’s a sign of desperation when people lie to support their position. The top wage earners already pay 32 % tax, the lower 40 % of wage earners are exempt from paying taxes – they pay NOTHING but still receive the benefits of our tax dollars at work.

Posted by: Lil M | October 30, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm

Letting the healing begin? he was like a used car salesman selling promises that he can not keep. If we get a lemon, we can not trade it in for 4 years.

Posted by: Jane | October 30, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm

palin is spreading the wealth in alaska. alaskans don’t pay income tax or state sales tax. the get this check, kinda like a welfare check for oil. palin said so herself, “we can afford to share resource wealth with alaskans and suspend the state fuel tax.” these are her words.

Posted by: maya | October 30, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm

ANYONE WHO WOULD …
vote for McCain knowing that Palin is a heartbeat away from being president herself, Please THINK VERY Carefully about that. She is so unqualified it’s dangerous!
They’re own Campaign Managers have said & I quote… “she is a whack job” and “she is so uninformed about domestic and foreign policy it’s scary”

Posted by: Squierghia74 | October 30, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm

The Iraq War is estimated to cost (when it is all said and done when the last vet dies) in excess of 3 trillion dollars. Is this a campaign issue? Hardly? Is it on the public agenda? No. So don’t complain how your tax dollars are spent!

Posted by: Ash | October 30, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm

Hey guess what? In an interview with NBC, Obama has predicted…. a significant recession…!!
AND he said that he thinks the job of the next president is going to be tougher than ever! The man is nothing short of pure genius!! And yet his faithful followers believe he is so wise and insightful! I wonder if they could have arrived at the same conclusion, or if Obama is just that completely brilliant!? LOL

Posted by: msa123 | October 30, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm

Both candidates stink. Obama is a socialist, McCain will reach across the aisle and together with Kennedy bring amnesty to millions of illegal aliens. Everyone of us will be negatively impacted by whoever wins, especially if Obama wins, with a Democratic controlled Congress and House.
To you who say, “I’d rather get some of that money instead of Big Oil getting all the Corporate Welfate they get”, get a clue. The U.S. Government did really well, thanks to the taxes they paid. Exxon-Mobile paid $27 BILLION in taxes last year. That’s as much tax money from ONE company as the bottom 50% of taxpayers paid, which equals 65 million people, whose adjusted gross income rate was 3% vs. Exxon’s adjusted gross income rate of 41%. Obama wants to “spread the wealth”, and that is Marxism. For those of you who want a free handout, how about instead working harder? You know, getting and education so that you can get a higher paying job? To think that the rich OWE you anything is ludicrous. The working class does NOT carry the load in this country, and to even think that the rich don’t pay their fair share is not true. The Tax Foundation shows the top 1% of wage-earners in this country pay nearly 40% of the burdern, which is an 11% INCREASE over 1999, when BJ Clinton was President. Not fair? PLEASE! They don’t do this because they have all the wealth, because they account for just 21% of the total adjusted gross income. Not fair? You’re right, they are paying DOUBLE what they should be paying. The top 10% of earners pay 70% of the load. The top 50% pay 96.4% of the entire tax burdern. The next 10% pays 3.6%, and the bottom 40% pay NOTHING. To say the working class carries the full load while the rich just keep getting richer and paying LESS is not true and comes directly from the “Communist Manifesto” by karl marx. Those who don’t learn from history are bound to repeat it and from some of your comments, you are them.

Posted by: john | October 30, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm

I would rather have an experienced senator with military experience anyday because if we can’t keep our country safe from terrorists we have no economy hence NO JOBS! McCain is for job creation especially thru small businesses which employ 70% of our workforce. If they are taxed to high heaven under Obama there will be little if any jobs left and no job creation. Small businesses can’t afford it. He is also getting rid of the cap with FICA. Small business owners pay that tax too. That is another 7% added to the business owner’s tax liability. Obama has little respect or regard for our military, keeps police detail at rallies out of sight and is planning on weakening our military with reduction in ICBM’s and working with the Russians under Putin (KGB) in getting rig of nuclear warheads. He is dreaming! Russians will laugh at us knowing Obama is delusional. No wonder the Middle EAst and other enemies want him to win. He is a greenhorn and with terrorist and radical friends,ie Ayers, Dohrn, Alinsky, Kahlidi Rezko (Syrian) etc. He doesn’t have a clue when it comes to national security. Also, character and who your friends are are IMPORTANT. Don’t ever get caught up with how someone delivers a speech especially by teleprompter. It is substance. He is way tooo smooth. By the way, where is he going to get all the money to stimulate the economy let alone pay for his socialistic health care plan?

Posted by: tracy woods | October 30, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm

Before John McCain’s tour of duty in Vietnam, he married Carol Shepp, a model from Philadelphia. On his 23rd bombing mission over North Vietnam in 1967, McCain was shot down and captured.
While he was imprisoned, Carol was in an auto wreck (1969), thrown through her car’s windshield and left seriously injured. Despite her injures, she refused to allow her POW husband to be notified about her condition, fearing that such news would not be good for him while he was being held prisoner.
When McCain returned to the United States in 1973 after more than five years as a prisoner of war, he found his wife was a different person. The accident “left her 4 inches shorter and on crutches, and she had gained a good deal of weight.”
Yearning to make the grade of admiral, McCain enrolled in the National War College at Fort McNair in Washington, D.C. and underwent physical therapy in order to fly again. The Navy excused his permanent disabilities and reinstated him to flight status, effectively positioning him for promotion.
In his book, The Nightingale’s Song, Robert Timberg chronicled McCain’s post-Vietnam military assignments and some of his “adulterous” behavior leading to his divorce from Carol and marriage to Cindy Hensley.
Timberg wrote, “in the fall of 1974, McCain was transferred to Jacksonville as the executive officer of Replacement Air Group 174, the long-sought flying billet at last a reality. A few months later, he assumed command of the RAG, which trained pilots and crews for carrier deployments. The assignment was controversial, some calling it favoritism, a sop to the famous son of a famous father and grandfather [both were Navy admirals], since he had not first commanded a squadron, the usual career path.”
While Executive Officer and later as Squadron Commander McCain used his authority to arrange frequent flights that allowed him to carouse with subordinates and “engage in extra-marital affairs.” Such behavior was a violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice rules against adultery and fraternization with subordinates..
Timberg wrote, “Off duty, usually on routine cross-country flights to Yuma and El Centro, John started carousing and running around with women. To make matters worse, some of the women with whom he was linked by rumor were subordinates . . . At the time the rumors were so widespread that, true or not, they became part of McCain’s persona, impossible not to take note of.”
In early 1977, Admiral Jim Holloway, Chief of Naval Operations promoted McCain to captain and transferred him from his command position “to Washington as the number-two man in the Navy’s Senate liaison office. It wasn’t long before the “fun loving and irreverent” McCain had turned the liaison office into a “late-afternoon gathering spot where senators and staffers, usually from the Armed Services and Foreign Relations committees, would drop in for a drink and the chance to unwind.”
In 1979 at a military reception in Honolulu, McCain met Cindy Hensley, an attractive 25-year-old woman from a very wealthy politically-connected Arizona family. Cindy’s father, Jim, founded the Hensley and Company, the nation’s third-largest Anheuser-Busch distributor.
McCain described their first meeting, “She was lovely, intelligent and charming, 17 years my junior but poised and confident. I monopolized her attention the entire time, taking care to prevent anyone else from intruding on our conversation. When it came time to leave the party, I persuaded her to join me for drinks at the Royal Hawaiian Hotel. By the evening’s end, I was in love.”
While still married to Carol, McCain began an adulterous relationship with Cindy. He married Cindy in May 1980 — just a month after dumping Carol and securing a divorce. The newlyweds honeymooned in Hawaii.
McCain followed his young, millionairess wife back to Arizona where her father helped catapult McCain into politics,
Today, Cindy Hensley McCain is chairwoman of Hensley’s board of directors. Hensley and Company financial reports show assets worth a minimum of $28 million for the McCains.

Posted by: Drew Hoffman | October 30, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm

Jwench
=========
No insults neccessary.
Just saw thru Obama from day 1….

Posted by: Nancy from NJ | October 30, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm

CNN ran a piece today that showed a high school of inner city blacks.
Everyone of them said they wanted to see a black man elected President.
Now if that is not UNEDUCATED, I dont know what is.
It shows how ignorant people can be.
And that is scary.
Get ready for riots when he loses.

Posted by: darrylfromindy | October 30, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm

Hopefully, this election will signal the long overdue death of the republican party and their racist, militaristic and divisive governing style.
Maybe America will soon again begin to resemble the great country I grew up in.

Posted by: Pat | October 30, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm

CNN ran a piece today that showed a high school of inner city blacks.
Everyone of them said they wanted to see a black man elected President.
Now if that is not UNEDUCATED, I dont know what is.
It shows how ignorant people can be.
And that is scary.
Get ready for riots when he loses.

Posted by: darrylfromindy | October 30, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm

i am an independent voter. i have already turned in my absentee ballot and voted for mc cain. he may lose and so be it.however we will find the hard way the mistake you made by hiring this no experience man.i have hired hundreds of highly educated people and countless with 4.0s from the finest universities taught by those who were unable to make in the world. based on my experience i will take a 2.5 student who had to work his/her way through college anyday. for those who liken the great one to jfk…he was a c student and damn near got us into a nuculear war and marlyin monroe drugs etc. where has BHO been for the past 20 years?

Posted by: catman | October 30, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm

I didn’t see it last night, but I knew OBAMA-BIDEN video did well as always.
As for the bottle-blonde of the View Elisabeth Hasselbeck or Hasselfront…she says “it was boring.” It shows that she has a cold-chilly heart. A very angy woman. Rather than expresses her view intelligently, she screams on top of her lungs about nothing. Just like Sarah Drag Palin. Never sits still and analyzes someone else’s opinion. If you don’t think like her, you are wrong and an enemy. Is this a new trade-mark for us republicans?
I am a republican voting and supporting the OBAMA-BIDEN TICKET.
Say it ain’t so….very well said. It shows you don’t even know great things that Obama did, even if you try. Prejudices and hatred are snakes in-disguises in people like you. You can’t even see the truth if it bites you…hate blinds and bleeds your cold heart, if you have any.

Posted by: khatts98178 | October 30, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm

CNN ran a piece today that showed a high school of inner city blacks.
Everyone of them said they wanted to see a black man elected President.
Now if that is not UNEDUCATED, I dont know what is.
It shows how ignorant people can be.
And that is scary.
Get ready for riots when he loses.

Posted by: darrylfromindy | October 30, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm

Update America:
Talking about Obama ethics and observance of the constitution………..
Philip J. Berg is Appealing to the U.S. Supreme Court as Obama is “NOT” qualified to be President of the United States Lawsuit Against Obama Dismissed from Philadelphia Federal Court
For Immediate Release: – 10/25/08 – Contact Info at end.
UPDATE: Ruling attached at end. It’s a really poor copy, but it is all we have for the moment. Willl put up a better copy when we get one.
(Lafayette Hill, Pennsylvania – 10/25/08) – Philip J. Berg, Esquire, the Attorney who filed suit against Barack H. Obama challenging Senator Obama’s lack of “qualifications” to serve as President of the United States, announced today that he is immediately appealing the dismissal of his case to the United States Supreme Court. The case is Berg v. Obama, No. 08-cv-04083.
Berg said, “I am totally disappointed by Judge Surrick’s decision and, for all citizens of the United States, I am immediately appealing to the U.S. Supreme Court.
This is a question of who has standing to uphold our Constitution. If I don’t have standing, if you don’t have standing, if your neighbor doesn’t have standing to question the eligibility of an individual to be President of the United States – the Commander-in-Chief, the most powerful person in the world – then who does?
So, anyone can just claim to be eligible for congress or the presidency without having their legal status, age or citizenship questioned.
According to Judge Surrick, we the people have no right to police the eligibility requirements under the U.S. Constitution.
What happened to ‘…Government of the people, by the people, for the people,…’ Abraham Lincoln in his Gettysburg Address 1863.
We must legally prevent Obama, the unqualified candidate, from taking the Office of the Presidency of the United States,” Berg said.
Our website obamacrimes.com now has 71.8 + million hits. We are urging all to spread the word of our website – and forward to your local newspapers and radio and TV stations.
Berg again stressed his position regarding the urgency of this case as, “we” the people, are heading to a “Constitutional Crisis” if this case is not resolved forthwith.
* * For copies of all Court Pleadings, go to obamacrimes.com

Posted by: Update America | October 30, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm

Bo’s story would be more amusing if it were true. Funny, I heard a McCain representative on the Straight Talk Express relating the exact same scenario as a hypothetical situation. The only poetic license Bo took is the addition of the homeless man’s sign and the waiter’s tie!
All graduated tax codes are “wealth redistribution.” Obama want to bring money back to the middle class which has been kicking in corporate welfare for far too long. Reagan’s Trickle-down economics have built an unprecendented wealthy class in America by “redistributing wealth” from middle class to corporate America. The middle class grows ever smaller, and it takes two incomes just to make it.

Posted by: JH | October 30, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm

Lil M: “The top wage earners already pay 32 % tax, the lower 40 % of wage earners are exempt from paying taxes – they pay NOTHING but still receive the benefits of our tax dollars at work.”
For someone condemning others for lying, you are incredibly cavalier with the facts. There is a list of exceptions (sales tax isn’t a tax, payroll taxes are a tax, property tax isn’t a tax, gas tax isn’t a tax, etc.) and careful definition required to make what you wrote above merely an exageration rather than an outright lie.

Posted by: jhw539 | October 30, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm

This guy has the best ideas by far. by far. No comparison. The CEO of GOOGLE endorses this guy. Ok, you wonder how smallbusiness that you want ot grow to big business owners think??? ask a HUGELY successful one. The CEO of Google, a nd consider how much MORE this guy will pay in taxes under Obama, but he still wants him. that says ALOT!

Posted by: frank | October 30, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm

People harp that OBAMA is a socialist by spreading the wealth around. EXCUSE ME!!!! What has the Republican party been doing to bail out Banks, AIG, FREDDY MAC/ FANNIE MAY, oh and the HUGE tax breaks to oil companies, horse apple’s. It smacks of SOIALISM to the RICHEST FORM. Sorry people you can’t call OBAMA a Socialist when the Republican Party and their pinions do the same them for BIG BUSINESS.

Posted by: smackgurl1960 | October 30, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm

People harp that OBAMA is a socialist by spreading the wealth around. EXCUSE ME!!!! What has the Republican party been doing to bail out Banks, AIG, FREDDY MAC/ FANNIE MAY, oh and the HUGE tax breaks to oil companies, horse apple’s. It smacks of SOIALISM to the RICHEST FORM. Sorry people you can’t call OBAMA a Socialist when the Republican Party and their pinions do the same them for BIG BUSINESS.

Posted by: smackgurl1960 | October 30, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm

YOU MIGHT BE A REPUBLICAN (REDNECK) IF…
*You run around shouting you are a real christian and don’t believe in that thar sex eddication stuff and yer 17 year old unmarried daughter is preggers by her drop-out boyfriend!
*You go to 5 different colleges just to get an undergraduate degree in that thar journalism stuff.
*You graddyate in the bottom 5 of yer class! All them Harvard folks is so elitist, aint they? Them with thar fancy eddications! So unneccesary to run this here country with. Heck, that don’t take no smarts or book learnin!
*You like to shoot them poor defenseless animals from your helly-copter. Gee it is so sportsmanlike, aint it? It makes the white snow all nice and red like. Purty!
*You call your opponent every name in the book and spread all kindsa nasty baseless gossip, (even though he has treated you all with respect and avoided the numerous chances to throw real mud back at y’all!), just sos you can win this here election! Damn straight!
*yer wife done get herself addicted to them thar drugs and stole them from a charity she worked for! OOh, that thar is a real doozy!
*You spend 150,000 dollars on some nice new duds when you just finished telling the folks how you was “one of them”, and then you get all kinda uppity like when people fuss over that. Silly people! Can’t a gal look spiffy on what amounts to over 2 years salary for an average person? Gee golly whiz!
*You might be a republican (redneck) if you still insist on votin for these here people even though the truth is hittin ya smack between the eyes that your party don’t really represent you all at all. They is the party of the wealthy and the priveledged. They is just puttin on some flannel shirts to trick ya Gomer! You know better than that now, doncha?
*Ya’ll have a good day now, ya hear?! YEEHAW!

Posted by: To You All | October 30, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm

RE: Obamas tax proposal. Obama intends to roll back the Bush tax cuts for anyone earning personal income of over 250K. That means anyone earning over 250K will be taxed as they were before the Bush tax cuts.
Anyone earning between 200K and 250K will see no change in their tax rates. That is where the “250″ number comes from.
Anyone earning less than 200K will see a decrease in taxes. This is where the “200″ number comes from. Joe Biden referred to the middle-class as people earning less than 150K, which is where the “150″ number came from. They fall into the under 200K crowd and hence will receive a tax cut.
What are McCains numbers? Does anyone know? Maybe it’s because he’s too busy criticizing Obama to tell us where he stands?

Posted by: Dave | October 30, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm

Bo and Francisco Cardenas are a paid republican hack(s). And Ene Mdiaz with Rush’s garbage. I have seen the exact same posts on other sites with different names so these must be the talking points for the rest of the week.
Not an original thought in a republican head.

Posted by: Site Watcher | October 30, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm

Mike, you make 150,000. Well according to the OBAMA tax calculator, if you are single and make 101,000 you get ZERO $0 tax saving with Obama. Check out his calculator for yourself.
Posted by: bo | Oct 30, 2008 6:01:50 PM

funny, I just tried it myself… if I were making 100,000 to 150,000… no dependants, no college loans, no mortgage, no deductions at all.
I get $1000 in tax cuts. http://taxcut.barackobama.com/
you sure you didn’t use mcsame’s calculator?

Posted by: Soundboy_Jeff | October 30, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm

I didn’t see it last night, but I knew OBAMA-BIDEN video did well as always.
As for the bottle-blonde of the View Elisabeth Hasselbeck or Hasselfront…she says “it was boring.” It shows that she has a cold-chilly heart. A very angy woman. Rather than expresses her view intelligently, she screams on top of her lungs about nothing. Just like Sarah Drag Palin. Never sits still and analyzes someone else’s opinion. If you don’t think like her, you are wrong and an enemy. Is this a new trade-mark for us republicans?
I am a republican voting and supporting the OBAMA-BIDEN TICKET.
Say it ain’t so….very well said. It shows you don’t even know great things that Obama did, even if you try. Prejudices and hatred are snakes in-disguises in people like you. You can’t even see the truth if it bites you…hate blinds and bleeds your cold heart, if you have any.

Posted by: khatts98178 | October 30, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm

– By the way, where is he going to get
– all the money to stimulate the economy
– let alone pay for his socialistic
– health care plan?
Hmm, where is McCain going to get the money for HIS health care plan, which costs roughtly the same.. until you add in his ‘high risk’ pools, which tack on another trillion.. and with all that money being thrown at it, McCains plan winds up losing coverage for more americans. Just like his tax plan, McCains health plan favors the wealthy and would be a disaster for this country.
http://www.epi.org/content.cfm/pm126

Posted by: willy | October 30, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm

E_DAY – 5: ELECTORAL COLLEGE EV POLLS
2008
Obama 375
McCain 157
Tie 6
2004
Bush 280
Kerry 243
Tie 15
State-by-State Polls Are What Matters And Always Predict The Winer.
IT’OVER. THE FAT LADY START SINGING SOON…….

Posted by: Steve_NJ | October 30, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm

Ask yourself, what did Wallstreet do in response to this???? Remarkably stable day, even after the bigrally you’d think it would hav e tanked again????? did it??? wallstreet got a big hunk of what Obama will do, did they tank? Nope. The breathed a sigh of relief.

Posted by: matt | October 30, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm

you hear 33 million and think it’s a big number – how many watched the vp debate to see sarah palin – ill answer for you 80 million (so even if we split it down the middle libtards – that’s 40 million)
40,000,000 > 33,000,000.
pushing daisies pulled 6.65 million last night going up against THE MESSIAH.
tvbythenumbers has the total number watching on cbs, nbc, and fox at 26.4 million (give each of them a third – even give a little less to fox) and he probably averaged 9.5 million viewers each on nbc and cbs.
NOT VERY IMPRESSIVE, LOOK AT YOUR OWN NUMBERS ABC!!!!

Posted by: jason | October 30, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm

CNN ran a piece today that showed a high school of inner city blacks.
Everyone of them said they wanted to see a black man elected President.
Now if that is not UNEDUCATED, I dont know what is.
It shows how ignorant people can be.
And that is scary.
Get ready for riots when he loses.

Posted by: darrylfromindy | October 30, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm

I didn’t see it last night, but I knew OBAMA-BIDEN video did well as always.
As for the bottle-blonde of the View Elisabeth Hasselbeck or Hasselfront…she says “it was boring.” It shows that she has a cold-chilly heart. A very angy woman. Rather than expresses her view intelligently, she screams on top of her lungs about nothing. Just like Sarah Drag Palin. Never sits still and analyzes someone else’s opinion. If you don’t think like her, you are wrong and an enemy. Is this a new trade-mark for us republicans?
I am a republican voting and supporting the OBAMA-BIDEN TICKET.
Say it ain’t so….very well said. It shows you don’t even know great things that Obama did, even if you try. Prejudices and hatred are snakes in-disguises in people like you. You can’t even see the truth if it bites you…hate blinds and bleeds your cold heart, if you have any.

Posted by: khatts98178 | October 30, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm

Nancy from NY – “Your the idiot where did you learn how to spell” Nancy, you made a spelling and a grammar error while calling someone else an idiot for a spelling error. What does that make you? Even professional writers make spelling and typing mistakes. I don’t consider them idiots. That’s why all great writers depend on others to proofread their material before publishing.

Posted by: MikeMo1947 | October 30, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm

THREE WORDS NEOCONS…
PRESIDENT ELECT OBAMA!
THE GOP REIGN OF DARKNESS IS ALMOST OVER!

Posted by: Lou | October 30, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm

Having been in the military and taken part in that US form of socialized medicine, I won’t be signing up for that program. Do people really believe they’ll be airlifted to Duke University for a brain scan like Ted Kennedy under BHO’s plan? He keeps saying everyone will “enjoy the same benefits that I have.” Right.
What part of last night’s message underscored self-reliance? None of it.

Posted by: JGB007 | October 30, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm

*** you sure you didn’t use mcsame’s calculator?
Does he even have one??? I haven’t been able to find it.. guess he doesn’t want people to know that you need to be earning over $150K a year to see any tax cut.
Vote for McCain if you want to pay more taxes so the rich can pay less.

Posted by: willy | October 30, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm

To you all-
You are uneducated. If you have a degree (not from a burn) your parents should ask for their money back!
Loser!!!

Posted by: darrylfromindy | October 30, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm

I hope you naive Obama supporters realize than under the “Messiah’s” tax plan, non-profit organizations such as United Way, Salvation Army, Red Cross, etc. are going to become nonexistent. The business’ and their employees who have contributed millions of dollars to these wonderful organizations over the years are saying “to hell with it”. Since Obama is going to be spreading their profit around to people who don’t even pay income taxes, why on earth would they want to contribute even more? They’re NOT going to!!
You clueless people need to see through this man’s “fluff talk” and think for yourselves. Do your damn homework – it’s your duty as an American.

Posted by: Bogey | October 30, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm

The 6 million spent to show a Hollywood movie was a waste of money. Goodbye America—The press has been bought and if they had any “guts” or wanted to protect America they would have reported the “real” news to the population. Obama is ineligible to be President. He has performed the worst possible deception on the America and really does not care.

Posted by: Mike | October 30, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm

What are McCains numbers? Does anyone know? Maybe it’s because he’s too busy criticizing Obama to tell us where he stands?
Posted by: Dave | Oct 30, 2008 6:37:50 PM

Dave, here’s a site that does an ‘average tax’ comparison:
http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/11/news/economy/candidates_taxproposals_tpc/index.htm
it really is more like a return to Clinton’s tax plan.
who had a problem with Clinton’s tax plan? the rich, of course.

Posted by: Soundboy_Jeff | October 30, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm

– Having been in the military and taken
– part in that US form of socialized
– medicine
I’ve never heard of health insurance coverage being called ‘socialized medicine’.. but I guess the less informed can spin it however they like.

Posted by: willy | October 30, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm

MikeMo1947
=====
It’s NJ not NY You guys are really nasty!!
Can’t even post without all your nasty comments…what’s the deal?

Posted by: Nancy from NJ | October 30, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm

Sarah Palin calls Obama a socialist for wanting to “spread the wealth”. Well, in Alaska all residents receive a cut of the windfall profits that big oil companies make. The residents don’t have to do anything except live in Alaska to recieve a share of the oil companies profits. Sarah herself has referred to this as “spreading the wealth”, so does that make her and the whole state of Alaska socialists? Huh, does it?

Posted by: Swoosh | October 30, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm

I watched it. Highly produced; just like Obama.

Posted by: Mike Adams | October 30, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm

how in the heck do you think mccain can help us fight terrorist who want to attack us? he’s lived is entire life on a floating cloud. his whole military career was based on this father and grandfather’s credentials. he got what was given to him because of them. he got the senate because of cindy’s dad helping him out a great deal. i don’t want a president who expects everything to be given to him or go his way. he is a stupid, childish, old enough to know better, loser.
OBAMA/BIDEN ’08

Posted by: maya | October 30, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm

History will be made Nov 4th!
what side will you be on … muahahahh
how can you tell your grandkids you voted against the brilliance of Obama?
Its like telling your grandkids you voted against women voting rights
shame you on U .. and Bush
CHANGE IS COMING!

Posted by: Obama 08 | October 30, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm

I saw the commercial. It was well done and had very good information. Could John McCain have given us one of these instead of a barrage of attack ads? Did anyone notice that the 30 minute commercial never mentioned John McCain or Sarah Palin? Classy.

Posted by: Edward | October 30, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm

jhw539 – I was referring to income tax as not all states have sales tax and property taxes vary wildly depending on where you live. Sales tax and property taxes are determined by voters and lawmakers in those state and local areas – not by Washington. Other taxes – impact fees, etc., also vary depending on where you live.

Posted by: Lil M | October 30, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm

JGB008: “What part of last night’s message underscored self-reliance?”
If you want self-reliance, move to your libertarian utopia of Somalia. The modern world is built on reliance upon your fellow citizens – a survivalist growing his own food in a cabin in Montana contributes nothing and has to visit those poor, dependent upon other, modern folk every time he needs some antibiotics, a flashlight, or any of the basic benefits of modern society. You’re living in a fantasy land if you worship “self reliance” over proven modern programs (France’s medical system is actually a pretty good model, judging by facts like $ per person versus life expectancy).

Posted by: jhw539 | October 30, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm

Capitalism: Today on my way to lunch I passed a homeless guy with a sign that read “Vote Obama, I need the money.” I laughed.
Once in the restaurant my server had on a “Obama 08″ tie, again I laughed as he had given away his political preference–just imagine the coincidence.
When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone who I deemed more in need–the homeless guy outside. The server angrily stormed from my sight.
I went outside, gave the homeless guy $10 and told him to thank the server inside as I’ve decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was grateful.
At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient deserved money more.
I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application.
*******************
What a schmuck! You’ve stiffed a guy his tip over SPITE??? And then you compared a homeless guy that didn’t earn that tip to everyone making under $250,000??? I’ve seen your similar posts on here before — you’re pathetic.

Posted by: Paula | October 30, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm

this is why the greatest place in the world is CA
b/c after everything is said and done … we are still better than everyone other state

Posted by: Obama 2012 | October 30, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm

CNN ran a piece today that showed a high school of inner city blacks.
Everyone of them said they wanted to see a black man elected President.
Now if that is not UNEDUCATED, I dont know what is.
It shows how ignorant people can be.
And that is scary.
Get ready for riots when he loses.

Posted by: darrylfromindy | October 30, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm

Obama voted for the bailout. Obama and his party opposed Republican legislation in 2005 for more regulations on lenders. Obama is taking money from people in high places… do you think he will not owe them for this? You are completely naive if you think Obama is any different than the whole lot of them in DC. Seems that you’re just grasping at straws b/c you can’t admit that we have all just been screwed.

Posted by: msa123 | October 30, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm

Update America:
Hershey, Pennsylvania:
More Afro-Americans voting for McCain because Obama is of POOR character. As one man said, “I celebrate Martin Luther King Day every year. Martin Luther King said it is not the color of a man’s skin, it is the character of the man”.
There is no need to say anything more about Obama. The character of a man is more important than the color of his skin. Obama’s shields his true character, restricts his true self from view of the voting public.
This post repeats because Obama supporters constantly distort the truth. Obama is of POOR Character as said by a Hershey, Pennsylvania McCain Afro-American voter. This post will repeat as necessary.

Posted by: Update America | October 30, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm

STOP your crying … REPUBLICANS .. you are all drowning., guess what . OBAMA will WIN on Nov 4 !!! so just stop your BS and go cry with Joe P&$^%$.

Posted by: Coy | October 30, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm

CNN ran a piece today that showed a high school of inner city blacks.
Everyone of them said they wanted to see a black man elected President.
Now if that is not UNEDUCATED, I dont know what is.
It shows how ignorant people can be.
And that is scary.
Get ready for riots when he loses.

Posted by: darrylfromindy | October 30, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm

Lil M: “jhw539 – I was referring to income tax…”
OK (I’ll have to find that state with no state income tax, sales tax, gas tax, or property tax!). Now keep going with all the other exceptions to your original inflammatory accusation because as it stands, your statement is still false (a lie) by common definition of the English language.

Posted by: jhw539 | October 30, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm

CNN ran a piece today that showed a high school of inner city blacks.
Everyone of them said they wanted to see a black man elected President.
Now if that is not UNEDUCATED, I dont know what is.
It shows how ignorant people can be.
And that is scary.
Get ready for riots when he loses.

Posted by: darrylfromindy | October 30, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm

maya
CHANGE IS COMING!
==============
If it’s the change your thinking I Hope it’s not coming my way.
LMAO (Brilliance)

Posted by: Nancy from NJ | October 30, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm

jhw539 – just go to the IRS’s website if you want to confirm the income tax brackets. It’s all online.

Posted by: Lil M | October 30, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm

SoundboyJeff, thanks for the link. It appears that I would receive a much more substantial tax cut under Obama’s plan than under McCains plan. My wallet is voting for Obama.
Though, I still want to hear something out of McCains mouth other than criticism and whining.

Posted by: Dave | October 30, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm

you hear 33 million and think it’s a big number – how many watched the vp debate to see sarah palin – ill answer for you 80 million (so even if we split it down the middle libtards – that’s 40 million)
40,000,000 > 33,000,000.
pushing daisies pulled 6.65 million last night going up against THE MESSIAH.
tvbythenumbers has the total number watching on cbs, nbc, and fox at 26.4 million (give each of them a third – even give a little less to fox) and he probably averaged 9.5 million viewers each on nbc and cbs.
NOT VERY IMPRESSIVE, LOOK AT YOUR OWN NUMBERS ABC!!!!

Posted by: jason | October 30, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm

Ever wonder why there are no hearings for who in government is responsible for this messup? It’s because the Democrats would be investigating themselves.
Posted by: Michael | Oct 30, 2008 6:32:20 PM

and mcsame’s financial advisor phil gramm had NOTHING to do with deregulating the banking industry, wall st. and the insurance industry, right?
egad. you’re a fool.

Posted by: Soundboy_Jeff | October 30, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm

I amazed that everyone falls for this line from Obama, he is a dangerous person to have in the white house. We know nothing about him at all. Many people if he is elected will regret that they voted for him. How do we go from a President Reagan to a Obama in 20 years disgraceful. We worry about what the world cares about us. We forget since world war 1 we have been saving the world. Most people don’t even know what the issues are in this election, but he gives a nice speech and he is going to take care of everyone. Perhaps if he is elected the day after he is sworn in, we might as well shut down all non-profits, red cross, salvation army and let our new god take care of things

Posted by: Joe | October 30, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm

jhw539 New Hampshire, for one.

Posted by: Lil M | October 30, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm

Who cares about the rich, be responsible for yourself! Pretty sad if you are just hoping for the government to take care of you.

Posted by: Sue | October 30, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm

33.5 million saw it and it cost 3 million to run.
That’s less than 30 cents per viewer.
MAKES GREAT ECONOMIC SENSE.
OBAMA CAN HANDLE ECONOMIC ISSUES.
GO OBAMA!!!!

Posted by: Ed from MA | October 30, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm

– I went outside, gave the homeless guy
– $10 and told him to thank the server
– inside as I’ve decided he could use the
– money more. The homeless guy was
– grateful.
Well, as a true die hard McCain supporter, you should have taken that $10 and gone to the closest mansion in your area and given it to the owner.. I’m sure he would appreciate it.

Posted by: willy | October 30, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm

Sarah Palin is better prepared than you think to be President, if need be. As the chief executive of her state, she has more experience than Obama, who had only a year in the US Senate before he began running for President. A year!!! Besides, I thought Washington DC was broke and we were looking for change? As for the Iraq War, she has a son who is deployed to Iraq. Who does Obama have in it? What’s HIS military record? For all you believers, women in particular, who say “women can have it all and do it all”, where are you? You’ve gone strangely quiet. Instead, you seem to be saying, “she needs to be barefoot and pregnant and stay home with her kids.” Hypocrites!!!! As for her daughter being pregnant and her pro-life stance, if this were Obama’s daughter, would he tought pro-life or abortion? That’s a no-brainer.

Posted by: john | October 30, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm

Wow Obama got 33,500,000 to turn in . The McSame camp must be kicking themselves for not doing the same.
See this is why Obama is the better choice then McSame .Obama has a more clearer vision for the future of this country.McSame will just follow the policy of the last two term president and look at the fix we are in now.two wars, a bailout,nationl debt in the trillion,wall street hanging on for life,I hope the American people do not make the same mistake three times in a role.

Posted by: KWOLF443 | October 30, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm

Obama was great!! He will be a great leader!!! Vote, vote, vote Obama!!!!

Posted by: JimM | October 30, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm

ed from ma – it cost 3 million to make, not to put on the air

Posted by: jason | October 30, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm

If I didn’t have to live in this country after the election, I would really hope that Obama gets in… I would just love to see the looks on his faithful followers faces when they figure out who and what he is really all about.

Posted by: msa123 | October 30, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm

Barack Obama is one of the few candidates (Hillary too) who is offering any solutions to America’s multiple problem. He has proven he is willing to listen to the voice of the people. I have no doubt Hillary will play a major role, if he is elected.
McCain and Palin have only offered divisiveness, pettiness, and polarization – driving a wedge of social status, race and ethnicity and fear.
Let the healing of the nation begin.
OBAMA ’08

Posted by: Rev. Ike | October 30, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm

Right on Joe!!!

Posted by: darrylfromindy | October 30, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm

Update America:
DON’T BE A PAWN! Obama’s policies have been TRIED and FAILED. Creating a welfare nation is not going to work. And Universal Healthcare is sssssp – inhale now – a pipe dream. CONSIDER THIS: Incredibly, we have no definitive explanation of why a global financial crisis suddenly materialized just six weeks before U.S. elections. IF SUBPRIME loans hadn’t happened in the FIRST place there wouldn’t have been PRODUCT to bundle, sell and mutilate. DEMOCRATS headed the FINANCE committees that fought reform. The CRA was “revised” during Clinton’s reign leading to SubPrime abuses—which ultimately ABUSED low-income people. (That’s right, they keep you weak and dependent!)
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/24/whitewashing-fannie-freddie/
Then left-leaning hedge fund operators who profited off Mortgage-Backed-Securities (i.e., THIEVES with offshore accounts to avoid taxes) poured their profits into Obama & the Democrats—who want more government because THEY need jobs! MORE TAXES – MORE GOV’T – MORE JOBS (for them!)
http://www.aim.org/aim-column/soros-bets-on-us-economic-collapse/
Beyond the Dems, Who Is the Economic Meltdown REALLY benefiting?
HAMAS PRAISES OBAMA AGAIN — and Biden, Too. Ahmed Yousef says that the terrorist group would send Obama a congratulation letter “the moment he will win the election.”
AL-JAZEERA FOR OBAMA http://www.aim.org/aim-column/al-jazeera-for-obama/
From The Audacity of Hope: “I will stand with the MUSLIMS should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”
Before you VOTE please visit: http://www.actforamerica.org/ & see VOTER GUIDE. Act for America is dedicated to educating the West about the spread of radical Islam.

Posted by: Update America | October 30, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm

http://taxcut.barackobama.com/
Wow! That’s cool! We’d get $1800 w/Obama – $0 w/McCain!

Posted by: Paula | October 30, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm

I thought Obama did GREAT and I am voting for him!

Posted by: Zellie | October 30, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm

darrylfromindy – HS blacks excited about the possibility of a black president! Why is that dumb? Are you saying our military is dumb because they are overwhelmingly for the candidate that is a military hero. This situation happens all the time. When one of the final candidates is from state XXZ, it is typical that they vote overwhelming for the candidate from their state. This was true for the first Catholic president. Usually, if there is a strong candidate that has something in common with you, you tend to for them.

Posted by: MikeMo1947 | October 30, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm

– Most people don’t even know what the
– issues are in this election,
I’d say that is true for the McCain supporters, since most are voting for him simply because they are anti-obama and really haven’t given much thought to each candidates platform.

Posted by: willy | October 30, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm

Hurry and go out and vote for Obama early so you don’t find out things like Obama’s aunt living in housing projects in Boston “who cannot talk to anyone until november 5th.” Spread everyone else’s wealth but not your own.
She lives in housing projects but still manages to make campaign contributions.

Posted by: Cryos | October 30, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm

CNN ran a piece today that showed a high school of inner city blacks.
Everyone of them said they wanted to see a black man elected President.
Now if that is not UNEDUCATED, I dont know what is.
It shows how ignorant people can be.
And that is scary.
Get ready for riots when he loses.

Posted by: darrylfromindy | October 30, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm

Palin is a joke of a politician…
you can put anybody up there and read a damn script (add the winks and you “betcha”) ..her lack of political intellect couldnt be clearer

Posted by: Obama 08 | October 30, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm

John…
I know you REALLY like Palin, and I love a smart strong women, BUT SORRY… Ms. Palin would make a great stewardess or dental assistant. NOT VICE President!

Posted by: Squierghia74 | October 30, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm

Darryl, Obama didn’t get this far because he’s black. If that were true, Jesse Jackson would have made it a lot further than he did in his attempt. Maybe you should try to understand why those poor black kids feel the way they do, instead of calling them uneducated. I think maybe you are the one who is uneducated and ignorant. You’re definitely not inquisitive enough for your opinion to matter to anyone but yourself. Please do us all, and yourself, a favor and keep your opinions to yourself.

Posted by: dave | October 30, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm

Hey ALEX H. – Does that H stand for hussein? You come off to me as a racist full of fear. Good, because racists should be full of fear as much as they’re full of their sense of entitlement. McCain is a war-hero, and I thank him for his service. I haven’t munch nice to say about Palin as all I know of her is that she wants to trump women’s right to choice, and I disagree with that. Michelle Angelique, nice breakdown of educational experiences. Obama Biden 2008!

Posted by: Troy Killhoy | October 30, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm

For those of you who fall for the “socialism” crap McCain has been feeding you, or think, as Roger said, “I may not make much money, but I do feel it is wrong to take from others”, think about this — for the past eight years OTHERS IN THE PERSON OF THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION HAVE BEEN TAKING FROM ALL OF US AND GIVING IT TO THEIR RICH FRIENDS WHILE THE MIDDLE CLASS STAGNATED THEN LOST WEALTH.
Please, wake up already people. McCain is four more years of Bush, and that’s if the cancer survivor outlives average U.S. male life expectancy of 75.2 years. If he doesn’t then we get PRESIDENT PALIN and I guaranty THAT WILL BE, AS HARD AS IT IS TO BELIEVE, EVEN WORSE THAN FOUR MORE YEARS OF BUSH!
GOBAMA! :)

Posted by: bob | October 30, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm

All of you anti-tax Republicans are hypocrites. I have been hearing the no-tax line from the Republicans for 40 years. It is pure bull. Here are the results; Ronald Reagan record spending, largest deficits in history; George Bush “no-new taxes” Senior – record deficits, record spending and raised taxes; Bill Clinton budget surplus and economic prosperity (delusional republicans deny this fact); George Bush Jr – record deficits and worst economic crisis since the great depression. Alan Greenspan said he was wrong about regulation. McCain said he did not understand economics and the economy was sound. The Republicans are economic morons. Their save the rich and big business at all cost has crashed our economy. It’s the deficits that have tanked the dollar.

Posted by: Perspective | October 30, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm

Republicans talk of small government and less public spending. They have in the past 8 years created over 2 trillion dollars of debt which future generations will be burdened with.
We need a inspirational educated and smart leader to guide this country to recovery. Flag waving and putting stickers to support the troops is not a
sacrifice. Real sacrifice is when our country was mobilised after Pearl
harbor,the Britsh also sacrificed.
How many repubican senators and congressmen have their sons and daughter in Iraq. They are a bunc of hypocrats.
Top 10 Reasons Why Rrepublicans Suck and
why they will lose badly in the election.
10. They are incompetent.
9. They lie like a rug.They lie like a dog. Just lie all the time.
8. They are pack of crooks.
7.They are unbearably sanctimonius.
6.They have no sense of humour.
5. They are losing the wat on terror.
4.They have put our economoc future in Bejing’s hand.
3.They steal elections.
2.Oh yeah, they are destroying the planet too.
1. They suck up topower.

Posted by: M.Naik | October 30, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm

Squierghia74 – - so not only are you racist (see previous posts) you’re sexist too.
grow up and get educated

Posted by: jason | October 30, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm

Update America…read this UPDATE! You are racist!!!
Healthcare will work!
New technology to get us off oil will work!
Lower taxes for 95% of us, will work!
But your fear mongering, racist, neo-con, smears, lies, and dismantling of the truth won’t!
You got 8, you ain’t getting the next 4!
LONG LIVE TRUTH!

Posted by: Zellie | October 30, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm

How dumb and gullible are some people.
What would you expect!
I wonder if the results would have been the same if there were more decent options to watch on tv.

Posted by: jacki | October 30, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm

“I may not make much money, but I do feel it is wrong to take from others.”
So you think a nation of well over 300 million people can function without taxation? Every large civilized society in history has required taxation to first develop, and then survive.

Posted by: bugg | October 30, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm

The residents don’t have to do anything except live in Alaska to recieve a share of the oil companies profits. Sarah herself has referred to this as “spreading the wealth”, so does that make her and the whole state of Alaska socialists? Huh, does it?
Posted by: Swoosh | Oct 30, 2008 6:42:09 PM

that’s different though, she was thinking of the COUNTRY of Alaska’s well being at the time..
now she’s talking about Socialism in Amurrika.
/snark
:-)

Posted by: Soundboy_Jeff | October 30, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm

– “I will stand with the MUSLIMS should
– the political winds shift in an ugly
– direction.”
Unfortunately for you, the word “MUSLIMS” does not appear in that quote in the book.. it is being circulated in a SPAM email that the truely ignorant are buying into.. what a (non)surprise that you did also!
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ownwords.asp

Posted by: willy | October 30, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm

Mike-
In all due respect..it is racism at its best.
Kinda like a High School of white kids saying I am voting for McCain because he is white.
Voting on a candidate because of color is wrong.
I am white and would not hesitate to vote for a black candidate I thought was qualified.
Obama is not what I had in mind.
Thanks for responding thought. I was wondering why nobody touched my post.
Probably because they dont have a solid rebuttal.

Posted by: darrylfromindy | October 30, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm

Update America:
PRINCETON, NJ — A Gallup update based on more than 21,000 interviews conducted as part of Gallup Poll Daily tracking in October shows that registered voters’ religious intensity continues to be a powerful predictor of their presidential vote choice. John McCain wins overwhelmingly among non-Hispanic whites who attend church weekly, while Barack Obama dominates among whites who seldom or never attend church.
Non Hispanic White that attend church weekly: Obama 28%…..McCain 65%
White Hispanic White that attend church weekly: Obama 43%…McCain 46%
Looks like Mr. Wright using the name of God in vain, Obama and Pastor Joel Hunter praying to (false) GODS lost the race to control religious people that believe in one GOD. AMEN.

Posted by: Update America | October 30, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm

You can call it scare tactics, whatever you want. If you were told that what a known thief might do to if you befriend him/her, would that be a warning or a scare tactic?
“All the people in the Arab and Islamic world and in Africa applauded this man [Obama]… [and] may have even been involved in legitimate contribution campaigns” to his campaign, said Gadhafi. The Libyan dictator described Obama as “a black citizen of Kenyan African origins, a Muslim, who had studied in an Islamic school in Indonesia.”
The Gadhafi address aired on Al-Jazeera TV on June 11, 2008.

Posted by: msa123 | October 30, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm

Vote your conscience. What team is best for the whole of society? REALLY. Obama. Vote for the candidate that will do the most for the most people. Put your wife, sister, child, husband, brother, or your parents well-being in the best hands. Stop thinking about what your country can do for YOU and start thinking about what you can do to improve your country. Selfish America needs a makeover–NOW. Obama can give us that.

Posted by: TuesdayVotes | October 30, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm

mccain supporter ‘nancy from nj’ laughs at her own jokes… in a blog post. oh, boy.

Posted by: otis | October 30, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm

Dave-
I am educated. You want to take from people like me and give to the illiterate. Just like Obama.
You are a racist. If that was a school of white kids….you would be screaming bloody murder!
Double standard for you!

Posted by: darrylfromindy | October 30, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm

Jason
I’m White and my wife is african american.
& I am not sexist, I said I like strong smart women.
Unfortunately Sara Palin is Not Smart.
Her own campaign managers have called her and I quote “A Whack Job” and “So uninformed and uneducated about foreign and domestic policies it’s scary” These things were said about her by her own people.

Posted by: Squierghia74 | October 30, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm

READ THIS!
AP: Palin’s Alaska Spreads The Wealth
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/30/ap-palins-alaska-spreads_n_139435.html

Posted by: Mary for Obama | October 30, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm

After living overseas for many years I have to laugh at the American Hysteria. Do you really think reality is Conservative/Liberal, Republican/Democrat,Red/Blue? Its like the primitive forest dweller living in a remote area of Borneo who believes that spirits control every aspect of his world. Yes, it is his reality and he can certainly find evidence of its veracity but it certainly isn’t a hard-bed reality.

Posted by: Ash | October 30, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm

Posted by: Update America | Oct 30, 2008 6:49:21 PM

egad! you actually quote the Washington Times as NEWS?!?!?
reverend moon would be sooooo proud of you… the National Enquirer is a better source of “facts” than the Washington Times.
left leaning hedge fund managers?!?
BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHH!!! that’s the best laugh I’ve had all day!
you drank the coolaid.

Posted by: Soundboy_Jeff | October 30, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm

– Looks like Mr. Wright using the name of — God in vain, Obama and Pastor Joel
– Hunter praying to (false) GODS lost the
– race to control religious people that
– believe in one GOD.
Which one is the false one?

Posted by: willy | October 30, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm

While millions were watching millions of dollars being wasted by Sen. Obama’s VH 1 state of union address informercial, some of us became aware from an article that ran in the UK Times (a liberal leaning paper) that Sen. Obama’s Kenyan aunt and uncle were living at the poverty level in a low income hosuing project in Boston. Obviously, Sen. Obama was not inclined to “spread his wealth around” to help his needy relatives. He was too busy deifying himself on network TV. A classic example of “do as I say, not as I do. Hypocrisy and sophistry all rolled up into one big fraud.

Posted by: ellennova | October 30, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm

Palin actually does spread the wealth around – in Alaska. AP article just out. She is a fullblown hypocrite. Hypocrite hypocrite hypocrite.

Posted by: Mary for Obama | October 30, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm

To Barack Hussein Obama,
The New York Times carried a story on Saturday, October 4, 2008, that proved you had a significantly closer relationship with Bill Ayers than what you previously admitted. While the issue of your relationship is of concern, the greater concern is that you lied to America about it.
The Chicago Sun reported on May 8, 2008, that FBI records showed that you had a significantly closer relationship with Tony Rezko than what you previously admitted. In the interview, you said that you only saw Mr. Rezko a couple of times a year. The FBI files showed that you saw him weekly. While the issue of your relationship is of concern, the greater concern is that you lied to America about it.
Your speech in Philadelphia on March 18, 2008, about ‘race’ contradicted your statement to Anderson Cooper on March 14 when you said that you never heard Reverend Wright make his negative statements about white America. While your attendance at Trinity Church for 20 years is of concern, the greater concern is that you lied to America on March 14.
In your 1st debate with John McCain, you said that you never said that you would meet with the leaders of Cuba, Venezuela, Iran, and North Korea without ‘preparations’ at lower levels … Joe Biden repeated your words in his debate with Sarah Palin … while the video tape from your debate last February clearly shows that you answered ‘I would’ to the question of meeting with those leaders within 12 months without ‘any’ preconditions. While your judgement about meeting with enemies of the USA without pre-conditions is of concern, the greater concern is that you lied to America in the debate with McCain.
On July 14, 2008, you said that you always knew that the surge would work while the video tapes of you from more than a year ago show that you stated that the surge would not work. While your judgement about military strategy as a potential commander-in-chief is of concern, the greater concern is that you lied to America on July 14.
You now claim that your reason for voting against funding for the troops was because the bill did not include a time line for withdrawal, while the video tapes of you from more than a year ago show that you voted against additional funding because you wanted our troops to be removed immediately … not in 16 months after the 2008 election as you now claim. While your judgement about removing our troops unilaterally in 2007 is of concern, the greater concern is that you lied to America about your previous position.
You claim to have a record of working with Republicans while the record shows that the only bill that you sponsored with a Republican was with Chuck Lugar … and it failed. The record shows that you vote 97% in concert with the Democrat party and that you have the most liberal voting record in the Senate. You joined Republicans only 13% of the time in your votes and those 13% were only after agreement from the Democrat party. While it is of concern that you fail to include conservatives in your actions and that you are such a liberal, the greater concern is that you distorted the truth.
In the primary debates of last February, 2008, you claimed to have talked with a ‘Captain’ of a platoon in Afghanistan ‘the other day’ when in fact you had a discussion in 2003 with a Lieutenant who had just been deployed to Afghanistan.
You lied in that debate.
In your debates last spring, you claimed to have been a ‘professor of Constitutional law’ when in fact you have never been a professor of Constitutional law. In this last debate, you were careful to say that you ‘taught a law class’ and never mentioned being a ‘professor of Constitutional law.’
You lied last spring.
You and Joe Biden both claimed that John McCain voted against additional funding for our troops when the actual records show the opposite. You distorted the truth.
You and Joe Biden claim that John McCain voted against funding for alternate energy sources 20 times when the record shows that John McCain specifically voted against funding for bio fuels, especially corn … and he was right …. corn is too expensive at producing ethanol, and using corn to make ethanol increased the price of corn from $2 a bushel to $6 a bushel for food.
You distorted the truth.
You and Joe Biden claim that John McCain voted like both of you for a tax increase on those making as little as $42,000 per year while the voting record clearly shows that John McCain did not vote as you and Joe Biden.
You lied to America.
You and Joe Biden claim that John McCain voted with George W. Bush 90% of the time when you know that Democrats also vote 90% of the time with the President (including Joe Biden) because the vast majority of the votes are procedural. You are one of the few who has not voted 90% of the time with the president because you have been missing from the Senate since the day you got elected. While your absence from your job in the Senate is of concern, the greater concern is that you spin the facts.
You did not take an active role in the rescue plan. You claimed that the Senate did not need you while the real reason that you abstained was because of your close relationships with the executives of Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Countrywide, and Acorn … who all helped cause the financial problems of today … and they all made major contributions to your campaign. While your relationship with these executives and your protection of them for your brief 3 years in the Senate (along with Barney Frank, Chuck Schumer, Maxine Waters, and Chris Dodd) is of concern, the greater concern is that you are being deceitful.
You forgot to mention that you personally represented Tony Rezko and Acorn. Tony Rezko, an Arab and close friend to you, was convicted of fraud in Chicago real estate transactions that bilked millions of tax dollars from the Illinois government for renovation projects that you sponsored as a state senator … and Acorn has been convicted of voter fraud, real estate sub prime loan intimidation, and illegal campaign contributions. Tony Rezko has contributed hundreds of thousands of dollars to your political campaigns. You personally used your political positions to steer money to both Tony Rezko and Acorn and you used Acorn to register thousands of phony voters for Democrats and you. While your relationships with Rezko and Acorn are of concern, the greater concern is that you omitted important facts about your relationships with them to America.
During your campaign, you said: ‘typical white person.’ ‘They cling to their guns and religion.’ ‘They will say that I am black.’ You played the race card. You tried to label any criticism about you as racist.
You divide America.
You claim that you will reduce taxes for 95% of America, but you forgot to tell America that those reductions are after you remove the Bush tax reductions. You have requested close to $1 billion in earmarks and several million for Acorn. Your social programs will cost America $1 trillion per year and you claim that a reduction in military spending ($100 billion for Iraq) can pay for it. While your economic plan of adding 30% to the size of our federal government is of concern, the greater concern is that you are deceiving America.
The drain to America’s economy by foreign supplied oil is $700 billion per year (5% of GDP) while the war in Iraq is $100 billion (less than 1% of GDP). You voted against any increases to oil exploration for the last 3 years and any expansion of nuclear facilities. Yet today, you say that you have always been for more oil and more nuclear.
You are lying to America.
Mr. Obama, you claimed that you ‘changed’ your mind about public financing for your campaign because of the money spent by Republican PACs in 2004. The truth is that the Democrat PACs in 2004, 2006, and 2008 spent twice as much as the Republican PACs (especially George Soros and MoveOn.org).
You are lying to America.
Mr. Obama, you have done nothing to stop the actions of the teachers union and college professors in the USA. They eliminated religion from our history. They teach pro gay agendas and discuss sex with students as young as first grade. They bring their personal politics into the classrooms. They disparage conservatives. They brainwash our children. They are in it for themselves ….. not America. Are you reluctant to condemn their actions because teachers/professors and the NEA contribute 25% of all money donated to Democrats and none to Republicans?
You are deceiving America.
Oh, Mr. Obama, Teddy Roosevelt said about a hundred years ago that we Americans should first look at the character of our leaders before anything else.
Your character looks horrible. While you make good speeches, motivating speeches, your character does not match your rhetoric. You talk the talk, but do not walk the walk.
1. You lied to America. You lied many times. You distorted facts. You parsed your answers like a lawyer.
2. You distorted the record of John McCain in your words and in your advertisements.
3. You had associations with some very bad people for your personal political gains and then lied about those associations.
4. You divide America about race and about class.
Now let me compare your record of lies, distortions, race baiting, and associations to John McCain: War hero. Annapolis graduate with ‘Country first.’ Operational leadership experience like all 43 previously elected presidents of the USA as a Navy officer for 22 years. 26 years in the Senate. Straight talk. Maverick. 54% of the time participated on bills with Democrats. Never asked for an earmark. The only blemish on his record is his part in the Keating 5 debacle about 25 years ago.
Mr. Obama, at Harvard Law School, you learned that the end does not justify the means. You learned that perjury, false witness, dishonesty, distortion of truth are never tolerated. Yet, your dishonesty is overwhelming. Your dishonesty is tremendously greater than the dishonesty that caused the impeachment and disbarment of Bill Clinton. Your dishonesty is tremendously greater than the dishonesty of Scooter Libby.
You should be ashamed.
Mr. Obama, it is time for us Americans to put aside our differences on political issues and vote against you because of your dishonest character. It is time for all of us Americans to put aside our political issues and vote for America first. It is time for America to vote for honesty.
Any people who vote for you after understanding that you are dishonest should be ashamed of themselves for making their personal political issues more important than character. Would these same people vote for the anti-Christ if the anti-Christ promised them riches? Would they make a golden calf while Moses was up the mountain? Would they hire someone for a job if that someone lied in an interview? Of course not. So why do some of these people justify their votes for you even though they know you are dishonest? Why do they excuse your dishonesty? Because some of these people are frightened about the future, the economy, and their financial security …. and you are preying on their fears with empty promises … and because some (especially our young people) are consumed by your wonderful style and promises for ‘change’ like the Germans who voted for Adolf Hitler in 1932. The greed/envy by Germans in 1932 kept them from recognizing Hitler for who he was. They loved his style. Greed and envy are keeping many Americans from recognizing you … your style has camouflaged your dishonesty …. but many of us see you for who you really are … and we will not stop exposing who you are every day, forever if it is necessary.
Mr. Obama, you are dishonest. Anyone who votes for you is enabling dishonesty.
Mr. Obama, America cannot trust that you will put America first in your decisions about the future.
Mr. Obama, you are not the ‘change’ that America deserves. We cannot trust you.
Mr. Obama, You are not ready and not fit to be commander-in-chief.
Mr. Obama, John McCain does not have as much money as your campaign to refute all of your false statements. And for whatever reasons, the mainstream media will not give adequate coverage or research about your lies, distortions, word parsing, bad associations, race baiting, lack of operational leadership experience, and generally dishonest character. The media is diverting our attention from your relationships and ignoring the fact that you lied about those relationships. The fact that you lied is much more important than the relationships themselves …. just like with Bill Clinton and Richard Nixon … Monica Lewinski and Watergate were not nearly as bad as the fact that those men lied about the events … false witness … perjury … your relationships and bad judgements are bad on their own ….. but your lies are even worse.
Mr. Obama, in a democracy, we get what we deserve. And God help America if we deserve you.
This letter was written by.
Michael Master

Posted by: jerry | October 30, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm

It is very comforting to know the election will soon be over, and that McSame and Peggy Hill will not be elected.
Obviously I do not like everything about Obama (esp. that his positions on many issues are too much like those of McSame). But instead of having a rabid animal in the WH, we will have someone who can use a calm and logical approach to forming policy.

Posted by: bugg | October 30, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm

Obama and Clinton went to the same charm school.
The both have zero integrity.
Can you imagine Reagan in the oval office with a girl on her knees???
Thats liberals for you. Lets put some more gays on primetime.
Yeah…..nice.

Posted by: darrylfromindy | October 30, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm

WoW! All the scarecrows now sit and wish they only had a brain…
Democrats controlled the congress for 30+ years until republicans got control for a short two years….who do you think started this economic mess? Clinton and his Congress who inherited an upward moving economy and run the country into the ground…don’t you remember Clinton and his cronies bowed to the begging Wall Street crowd to let them sell securities against mortgage portfolios? Ooops! where those bad portfolios, Bunky? I sowwy…
Yea stand up and say YEA! I’m voting for Obama. I didn’t watch because I didn’t need some smartass trying to feed me more BS…There’s a reason his initials are BO…..

Posted by: Al | October 30, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm

Darryl, everyone in this country is afforded the right to vote. They can vote for or against anyone using any criteria they want. It’s not wrong to have a reason to vote. It’s more wrong to have a reason not to vote. A lot of women voted for Hillary because she was a woman, and that is their right. Women will vote for McCain his running mate is a woman, and that is their right. People will vote for McCain because the NRA told them to, and that is their right. People will vote for Obama because he’s black, and that is their right. And some people, a few, will vote for the candidate that they think will do the best job. And that is their right.

Posted by: dave | October 30, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm

darrylfromindy – If you don’t vote for a black man because of his position on several important issues or their experience, that is not racism. If you vote for a black man because you do agree with most of his positions, that does not make you a racist either. You are absolutely correct that we should be voting on issues and not voting based on skin color or gaffs during many months of speeches. Also, thanks back to you for having a meaningful conversation!

Posted by: MikeMo1947 | October 30, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm

mikemo: I would hope relating to someone because of skin color is a little different than relating to someone who served in the military. Your argument makes no sense. One is something that you are born with, one is service for your country.

Posted by: msa123 | October 30, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm

Update America
Please try not to lie quite so much. The false quote from Obama’s book is especially slimy.

Posted by: jock59801 | October 30, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm

“Obama’s Mansion, Saddam’s Money” by Daniel Pipes
Philadelphia Bulletin, October 29, 2008
“Barack Obama’s house purchase depended on favors from Antoin S. “Tony” Rezko, flush with a “loan” from Nadhmi Auchi, whose fortune derived in part from Saddam Hussein’s favor.
When seen in the context of Obama’s other dubious connections (Ayers, Davidson, Wright, Khalidi, et al.), this network is all the more alarming.”
http://www.thebulletin.us/site/index.cfm?newsid=20180978&BRD=2737&PAG=461&dept_id=576361&rfi=8

Posted by: George | October 30, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm

– While millions were watching millions
– of dollars being wasted by Sen. Obama
Some of that money was mine, and I consider it well spent..
As for relatives in Keyna.. I don’t think they pay US taxes.. and I have several relatives who live in relative poverty, and yet they refuse to accept my help..
And I’m not voting for them either.. I’m voting for Obama and for the future of our Country.

Posted by: willy | October 30, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm

This election has taught me some things:
1) Don’t trust the media. It’s understandable to have a little bias in the way reporters deliver the news because let’s face it, we’re human and we’re bound to insert our feelings and opinions. However, journalism can be said to be at its worst during this election when the media blatantly crushes McCain just to exalt Obama. Studies show that there has been much more negative coverage on the McCain campaign than on Obama and that’s not even taking into account the omission of some negative news about Obama and his campaign. Has the media forgotten their ethic code? Do they even have one? They should be reminded that their job is to report the news and we, the people, decide what’s relevant and what’s not. They shouldn’t step out of bound and manipulate their audience into thinking their way or in this case, voting their way. If a doctor manipulates his patient into doing a treatment without fully disclosing all the facts, benefits and risks alike, he would be dragged in front of the ethics committee and beaten up with the malpractice suits. I believe the same ethics should apply to the media. Although it may not be a life and death situation, but there are “side effects” if we vote wrong in this election.

Posted by: George | October 30, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm

2) Apparently there is no work experience required for the job of Presidency. Take Obama for example, he worked as a community organizer straight out of college, then went on to run for Senator, but his opponent dropped out because he was going through a divorce. So that was an easy race. Once a Senator, he dodged voting on any legislation by voting “Present” 130 times. That’s not “yes” or “no”, that’s “I don’t know, but I’m here”. Among the few occasions that he managed to make up his mind, he voted the wrong way 6 times. He had to have people strike those off his records. After sitting in his Senator seat for less than a year, he officially announced that he’s running for President. That’s not a very impressive resume for the highest position in the land.

Posted by: George | October 30, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm

3) Obama may not be the most qualified candidate in my book, but I have to admit, he’s a good used car salesman. I have not seen anyone selling absolute bogus so well. Let’s start with his famous “I’ll cut taxes for 95% of the people”, that means giving tax cuts for people making less than $250,000. Oh wait, he’s lowered it to $200,000, and Biden said $150,000 but they never retracted that “gaff”. Oh well, we’ll never know for sure. The point is, what he conveniently forgets to mention is that the “tax cut” comes in a form of a check and 40% of the population don’t pay taxes, yet, they’re still getting these checks. Also, Obama promises to cut spending, but his spending proposal from all his programs would put us in $1 trillion deficits next year alone. Aside from facing a record-breaking deficit, where will he get the money for his “tax cut”? Well, he plans to increase taxes on people/businesses making more than $200K and also increasing corporate taxes to ~40%. For an individual, a $200K salary may be a lot, but anyone running a small business or a startup company knows that a $200,000 gross profit (or Earnings Before Interest, Taxes, Depreciation and Amortization (EBITDA)) is nothing. This will add more burdens to small businesses that are trying to stay afloat as is. The US already has the second highest corporate taxes in the world, which drives businesses to outsourcing. If you think that all these tax hikes won’t affect you, think again before your boss can’t afford to keep you and you find your job being offered overseas. Why not just let businesses flourish so they would keep jobs here instead of proposing a tax credit for businesses with newly hired US employees, which would add to the 1 trillion deficits burden? The only way the $200K or $150K tax cut threshold can’t hurt is if you’re on welfare already, so now the “tax cut” would give you another check, but you can’t be any more laid off than you already are.

Posted by: George | October 30, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm

darrylfromindy
No, it is not racist, although it is a legitimate question. First of all, about 90% of blacks have always voted for the Democratic candidate, who has always been white before now. If additional people want to vote for the first African-American candidate in history, can you blame them? After 200 years, the possibility of having someone in the White House he REALLY understands their issues, when they thought it could never happen in their lifetime. And you can’t say it is “just” because he is black – they can so that he is also competent and good on their issues.
To be racist, that would have to be doing it because they think the white candidate is inherently inferior or incompetent just because he is white. While there could be some blacks who believe that, I’d bet there were more whites going the other way.

Posted by: jock59801 | October 30, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm

As for healthcare, he generally stated that he would lower health care costs for a family by $2500 a year. This is far from the truth. He doesn’t plan on lowering premiums by $2500 or any amount. He plans to spend $50 billions in hope of improving access to disease management programs, so that in the end consumers would end up saving money up to $2500. This has not been tested or proven; it’s only an optimistic analysis, which many economists are still skeptical. When he says that he “believes every American has a right to affordable health care”, he doesn’t mean that it’s a guarantee health coverage for all. He has no plans to carry this out, except for offering government-subsidized coverage similar to the programs we already have instated now.

Posted by: George | October 30, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm

4) If it looks like a duck, talks like a duck, it’s a politician. Obama started off his campaign by promising a new type of race. A race that will not include the usual dirty politics; then as the heat got worse, he resorted to the same old politics of mudslinging. That’s not to say McCain didn’t do it too. But what happened to “The One” with higher standards and morale? Obama also promised to accept public funding for his campaign like McCain, but when he saw the potential for more money, his eyes got bigger and he forgot the promise he made. Well, I think that was probably a smart move on his part albeit that it was not a noble thing, especially if you’re running on a noble stance. But, at least his broken promise got him $150 millions to run 4 times as many ads as McCain, prime time TV spot on all 7 channels, and a $2 million presumptuous victory party. What did you expect? Obama is not the “Messiah” the media makes him out to be. Keanu Reeves is still “The One”.

Posted by: George | October 30, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm

5) Look beyond for what they’re not telling you, after all, they’re politicians. Many seats in Congress and the Senate are up for grabs this year and from the look of it, the Republicans aren’t doing well. I’m a Democrat, so that doesn’t really concern me, right? Wrong. The point of a three-branch government is for check and balances. If you have 2 of those branches in cahoots and they appoint the Supreme Justices for the third branch, where will the checks & balances be? Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid already have a $200 million spending proposal waiting for Obama to approve. Representative Barney Frank has a 25% cut for military funding waiting for Obama to sign off on. Shouldn’t we wait to bring our troops home safely before cutting funding? Wouldn’t that be a responsible thing to do? I guess not.

Posted by: George | October 30, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm

6) Forget integrity, the ends justifies the means. People may say that Obama can’t be held guilty by association with radicals like Frank Marshall Davis, who was connected to the Communist Party USA and a father figure to Obama when he was growing up in Hawaii as stated in his early editions of his book (stories about Davis was later taken out in his later editions to avoid controversy); William Ayers, a non-repent radical whose organization bombed government buildings, and stated in 2001 “I regret not bombing more” and in 2002 “I’m a Marxist”—Ayers & Obama did more than just serving together on a board of directors which he had led people to believe (in 1995, Ayers hosted a party to launch Obama’s first run for office. In 1997, Obama wrote a blurb praising Ayers’ book. Later Michelle Obama held a panel at the Uni. of Chicago featuring Ayers and Obama); Tony Rezko, a convicted felon on several counts of fraud and bribery who also helped Obama buy his 1.3 million home for $300,000 less than the asking price and Nadhmi Auchi loaned him the money, which was received from Saddam Hussein; Rashid Khalidi, who has ties to the Palestinian Liberation Organization and a close friend of Obama as he pointed out during a toast—which the LA Times refuses to release the video; the infamous, Rev. Jeremiah Wright; ACORN, a supposedly non-partisan group which was found to be the one who harassed bank employees at their homes & work places into giving people who didn’t qualify for loans and even illegal immigrants risky loans that contributed to the crash of the housing market today & is currently under investigation for voter fraud in 13 states, declared during its national convention that Obama needs them & while registering people for early voting, they encouraged and even bribed people to vote Obama by offering money. In the past, Obama was ACORN’s advocate & trainer. His campaign gave $800,000 to an umbrella organization that has ACORN on its payroll; John L. McKnight, a “disciple to the socialist agitator Saul ‘The Red’ Alinsky”, helped Obama get into Harvard Law School; and the list goes on. Being around radicals & Marxists, no wonder he adopted the socialist idea of “spreading the wealth around” and stated in a 2001 interview that the court should “venture into the issues of redistribution of wealth and economic justice”. It’s ok to have acquaintances & you can’t be guilty just by association, but when you surround yourself with certain types of character, then this applies: “Tell me who your friends are and I’ll tell you who you are.”

Posted by: George | October 30, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm

Update America:
By Larry Former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volker has endorsed Senator Barack Obama for president, and economist Larry Kudlow, a disciplined, free market conservative of the first order, is floored by the news:
This is an unbelievable story. Former Fed Chairman Paul Volcker—Mr. Hard Money, anti-deficit, sound financial himself—has endorsed Senator Obama for President.
This is a big deal.
Once upon a time, many years ago, I was a Volcker speechwriter at the New York Fed. He’s a great American. He’s a classic conservative. He’s a man of fiscal and monetary rectitude. While he was originally appointed Fed Chair by Jimmy Carter, Volcker ultimately teamed up with Ronald Reagan to put the kibosh on runaway inflation. He would not have made this endorsement on a whim. Believe me. He never gets involved in these kinds of political decisions.
Is Paul Volcker the new Robert Rubin? Is it possible that Mr. Volcker is somehow tutoring Obama? Is it possible that Obama is more financially conservative than originally believed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Update America Break:
Paul Volker was conservative Republican President Reagan’s man.
This could mean that Obama is really a conservative and NOT a liberal.
There is no other reason to have Volker as Obama’s mentor.
This could be a dirty trick on the Democrats. Ha… Ha… Ha… Ha
The Obama deceptions will never stop. Obama will do a U-turn on his liberal voters.

Posted by: Update America | October 30, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm

-I just want to generate REAL conversation, thats all.
It is tough talk.

Posted by: darrylfromindy | October 30, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm

7) It doesn’t matter how much you try to explain yourself, people will always think “if you’re not with me, you’re against me”. Take Joe “the Plumber” for example, he asked Obama a simple question about his tax plan and just because Obama shot himself in the foot with the “redistribution of wealth”, Obama & his campaign, the media, Obama supporters ripped Joe to bits. Joe didn’t even bother seeking out Obama to trip him with the question. He was playing football with his son in the front yard when Obama came to his neighborhood to campaign. He didn’t say he has a plumbing business or that he’s making $250,000. He simply said I’m interested in buying a plumbing business. Yet, Obama & Biden already mocked him the next day with “I don’t know any plumber making $250,000”. People mocked Joe for even dreaming of owning the plumbing business that he’s been working for 15 years. But, isn’t that the basis of the American Dream? Isn’t it a little elitist to tell someone you’ll never there, so don’t try? The media camped outside Joe’s house for days (how come no one is camping outside any of Obama’s questionable friends’ houses?). People digging up Joe’s bank statements, IRS records, and family stories just to mock him for not being able to “keep his family together”—since when was being a single dad a bad thing?
A TV station in Orlando, Florida was punished by the Obama camp by having their interviews with the campaign personnel stripped. All because Biden was given hard and direct questions about Obama’s socialist comment of “spread the wealth around”, his speech when he said, “mark my words…if you remember anything else I said, remember this, within 6 months of being President, we will have a generated crisis. The world will test Obama…”, etc. If Obama can’t take the heat of the press and a citizen, how will he take the heat from Putin or other leaders? What kind of “Change” are they advertising when they’re pushing to “spread the wealth” and punishing people for holding a different point of view? Is the “Change” really a change out of democracy?

Posted by: George | October 30, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm

This “Change” is already seen in many Obama supporters. They dub all those who hold a different view and vote McCain as racist or stupid or backwards. They refuse to recognize that some people look at things from a different angle or from all angles and take a different stance. But, no matter how you try to explain that your vote really bases on Obama’s character and inexperience, they’re still convinced that your vote is a racist vote. There has been more racism outcry on the Obama side than anybody’s. Their only example of racism is the comment “kill him” that was caught during one of the McCain rally, but they forget to mention that McCain stopped his speech and corrected them. He also corrected someone calling Obama a Muslim and sent his representative to convince a woman who had an Obama effigy to take it down. How come Obama doesn’t do the same when people have a Palin mannequin hanging by a noose or when they make sexist & hurtful comments about Palin and her children? I thought the candidates’ families are left out of the mudslinging or was it just the Obama family because the press sure likes to leave out a lot of Michelle Obama’s un-American things (e.g. her anti-American thesis that she wrote).

Posted by: George | October 30, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm

The McCain campaign could have done this but it would have been 30 minutes of him complaining and pointing and gritting his teeth and offering no hope to anyone.

Posted by: nick ames | October 30, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm

8) Play on people’s craving for change and they’ll forget you don’t have a good solution for change. Obama’s strategy has been to paint McCain as a continuation of Bush and it seems like people ate it up. It’s apparent that they don’t necessarily vote for Obama, but vote against Bush. Sorry, but Bush isn’t running in this election. Yet, they’re still justifying their votes against Bush now by saying that McCain is Bush, but let’s step back…the only reason you don’t have records of Obama voting with Bush is because he’s been voting “Present” for 130 times in less than a year. His only accomplishment so far is to play on people’s craving for change.
I didn’t think Bush would make a good President the same way I don’t think Obama is qualified.

Posted by: George | October 30, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm

8) Play on people’s craving for change and they’ll forget you don’t have a good solution for change. Obama’s strategy has been to paint McCain as a continuation of Bush and it seems like people ate it up. It’s apparent that they don’t necessarily vote for Obama, but vote against Bush. Sorry, but Bush isn’t running in this election. Yet, they’re still justifying their votes against Bush now by saying that McCain is Bush, but let’s step back…the only reason you don’t have records of Obama voting with Bush is because he’s been voting “Present” for 130 times in less than a year. His only accomplishment so far is to play on people’s craving for change.
I didn’t think Bush would make a good President the same way I don’t think Obama is qualified.

Posted by: George | October 30, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm

– This could mean that Obama is really a
– conservative and NOT a liberal.
Could be! Guess Obama has your vote then, huh!

Posted by: willy | October 30, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm

Check Foxnews.com latest poll. The
media on this web page are Hussein lovers any way !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Joey | October 30, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm

Update America, you forgot to mention one critical endorsement for McCain from his Al Q buddies:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/26/opinion/26kristof.html?scp=1&sq=kristoff%20mccain%20al%20queda&st=cse

Posted by: Yes_We_Will | October 30, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm

If a black man is elected to the presidency two things will happen: 1) an explosion of creativity beyond speculation just like when women and blacks broke throught their respective barriers in this country and 2) disappointment on the realization that black leaders are just as corrupt as white ones (look to MLK’s hometown of Atlanta to find politicians as corrupt as any in history – and all black).

Posted by: Ash | October 30, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm

Daryl,
GREAT Post. Obama’s policies have been TRIED and FAILED. Creating a welfare nation is not going to work. And Universal Healthcare is a pipe dream.
As for the global financial crisis that suddenly materialized just six weeks before U.S. elections, that was clearly planned. DEMOCRATS do head the FINANCE committees that seek reform, which was clearly spelled out this week, and yes, it is designed to keep us weak and dependent! How? The now want to knock down the existing 401(k) plan system and replace it with a government-run pension plan funded by employee contributions. Sounds nice. Participants would be guaranteed an inflation-beating return and a lifetime stream of income. Sounds too good to be true. What people want from their pensions is guaranteed income for life. The “new” plan will “require” we make “mandatory” contributions equal to at least 5 percent of our earnings, with the option of contributing higher amounts if we wish.
• Those contributions would be offset by a $600 federal tax credit each participant would receive.
• As with a 401(k) plan, workers would have individual accounts they could track. The balance of each account would depend on each worker’s contributions and income level.
• The Social Security Administration would handle account management, and the Thrift Savings Plan — a “well-regarded” retirement plan for federal employees — would manage the money.
• Participants would be guaranteed a fixed rate of return that exceeds inflation by 3 percent. Participants could receive an inflation-beating return above 3 percent “if” the government’s investment returns were high enough. At retirement, participants’ account balances would be converted into a lifetime stream of income that adjusts for inflation. There would be options to take partial lump sum payments, opt for lower payments in return for survivor benefits and, upon death, leave a portion of a financial account balance.
They say the intent of the plan is not to replace Social Security. Rather, Guaranteed Savings Accounts would supplement Social Security.
Reagan was right: Government is not a solution to the problem. Government IS the problem.
In addition, you make a great point that Hamas and other enemies of the State clearly support Obama. Get a clue America. Islamists attacked us under Clinton and Bush, and they will continue their assault under Obama.
Thanks for the post.

Posted by: john | October 30, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm

– Looks like Mr. Wright using the name of — God in vain, Obama and Pastor Joel
– Hunter praying to (false) GODS lost the
– race to control religious people that
– believe in one GOD.
Which one is the false one?
Posted by: willy | Oct 30, 2008 6:59:23 PM

willy, whichever one he doesn’t believe in, of course.
:-)
the funny thing is… if Christ were to come back today, he wouldn’t understand any of these people were supposedly ‘Christian’.
hate, lies, bigotry, greed, slander… not very Christian of these supposed Christians.
one has to wonder how many of the ‘seven deadly sins’ members of the Christian right break on a daily basis.
if they want to talk about Socialism… Christ was the first one.
something about helping your fellow man out I think?

Posted by: Soundboy_Jeff | October 30, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm

Larsch posts a comment…that proves how ignorant he can be…
Poor Larsch…wishing for a
bright Red world where
being a racist
is all the rage.

Posted by: Larsch posts a comment | October 30, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm

“Can you imagine Reagan in the oval office with a girl on her knees???”
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Are you kidding? Our only divorced prez was probably impotent.

Posted by: bugg | October 30, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm

– Obama’s strategy has been to paint
– McCain as a continuation of Bush and it
– seems like people ate it up
Please explain how McCain differs significantly from Bush on any issue. Lots of people have been asking, nobody is able to give an example. Face it, McCain is a third term of a dumber Bush on steroids.

Posted by: willy | October 30, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm

You have probably guessed I am for McCain.
So I say this with the upmost respect people……………………………………………
Obama will be the greatest President ever OR the biggest bust ever.
Odds are the latter AND i for one am not willing to take that chance.
So it is the lesser evil for me AND many other come November 4.
Marx my words!

Posted by: darrylfromindy | October 30, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm

I had to miss this last night — does anyone know where/when I can see it?

Posted by: JJ | October 30, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm

jerry – Like most I did not read all your post. I just skimmed the first part. If you don’t think McCain or any previous presidential candidate lies, distorts, and changes the position during a campaign, then you are not very experienced at politics in America. They all do it in abundance to try to create an image that will help them win. At 60, I have decided that it is never going to change and it takes much time to find the truth about both candidates and make you best guess because no one knows for sure which will do the best in unknown future circumstances. Even great presidents fail on most of their promises.

Posted by: MikeMo1947 | October 30, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm

When a person purports to earn $4,000,000 per year and does not help his own elderly and needy relatives, what does that say about that person’s character. No matter what religion you are or whether you are an atheist, you come to the only one conclusion. That person is only interested in “self.”

Posted by: ellennova | October 30, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm

Wow. 33.5 million? So just exactly how many eligable voters are out of that number? Plus really do not see why a McCain supporter would bother to even watch it. Only the Obama supporters and the undecides would watch it.
Just too bad we have no way to know just exactly how many voters will go vote. If we have that number, we can make a guess how many people might be supporting Obama.

Posted by: GWP | October 30, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm

Thirty minutes of great TV. Only issue oriented. Never slammed McCain. Terrific! I voted for Obama today.

Posted by: LarryP | October 30, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm

I make over $300,000/yr. in gross income. It hasn’t always been this way. However, as a result of hard work, determination, and a few breaks along the way, I am where I am.
In as much as life has been good to me in many ways, I feel a moral obligation to help others achieve as much as I’ve achieved, if not more. It’s a simple matter of “giving back” – being appreciative for what you have and demonstrating that appreciation by helping others to reach their goals in life.
As a result, I am not at all offended or threatened by Sen Obama’s tax plan, in which case I would be subject to a higher percentage in taxes than those in the middle-class income bracket. Additionally, I do not view this tax plan as a “redistribution of wealth”. In fact, I look at it as a tax model that reduces the tax burden for hard-working middle-class Americans, thereby helping them to make ends meet and keep food on the table each day. Why would I whine about a tax system that attempts to accomplish this? Only the rich who want to get richer and richer and see others become poorer and poorer would whine about a plan such as this, or refer to it as “redistribution of wealth”. I call it paying my proportional fair share of taxes. To whom much is given, much should be required.
“Joe The Executive”

Posted by: Roger | October 30, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm

A friend asked me how smart was BO when he didn’t pick Clinton for VP…with all the folks that died mysteriously around the Clintons, she would get Pres after all…good call not to pick her, but now half of the dumbasses in America are standing up to vote for BO and do you know what would happen if he loses? Wwe would have a black revolt on our hands.. and it would all be whitey’s fault. We have so many good things about America, but they’re getting ruined with Liberal policies. Look how we can have people hanging an effigy of of a white woman and gt away with it because it “scary” to think of her as VP…but you hang a black effigy and you have racism… A unqualified man in the office is scary to me…what BS.
If I wanted to get on the cover of CN , that’s all I’d have to do…hang up a black effigy and wait for the camera trucks…course I’d have to load the shotgun to keep the Libera…I mean lynchers away…America wake up. Now is not the time to have a “Great Experiment”

Posted by: Ace | October 30, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm

This is horrible..He should be a news anchor not the president!

Posted by: Denny | October 30, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm

Posted by: George | Oct 30, 2008 7:05:48 PM

funny… supposedly Obama and Biden “mocked” joe the plumber?
they didn’t mention a few things about him when they were ‘mocking’ him… like the fact that he’s complaining about his taxes going up when he has a judgement against him for NOT PAYING his taxes?
like the fact that he is being touted as the “average Joe 6-pack”… and he was charged with beating his wife? (yup, EVERY ‘average’ guy beats his wife, right??)
or how about the FACT that “Joe the plumber” ISN’T A LICENSED PLUMBER?!?
something about the word ‘vetting’ is going through my head… I guess because I’m a Democrat, God knows the republican party doesn’t bother even THINKING about vetting anyone.

Posted by: Soundboy_Jeff | October 30, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm

ACE-
You should be a carpenter…..you hit the nail on ther head brother!!!!

Posted by: darrylfromindy | October 30, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm

What is the experience argument? What is the experience and how do you obtain it?

Posted by: Mom Mom | October 30, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm

obama is one of the slickest politicians we have ever seen. i cant stand the fact he might win.

Posted by: tim | October 30, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm

“Just too bad we have no way to know just exactly how many voters will go vote.”
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We’ll find out soon. Will not have to guess.

Posted by: bugg | October 30, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm

Posted by: George | Oct 30, 2008 7:04:00 PM

George… considering the frequency of your posts… and their lengthy content… I’d just like to ask.
how much is the RNC paying blog posters these days?

Posted by: Soundboy_Jeff | October 30, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm

John, you seem to be quite confident in your opinion that “Universal Healthcare is a pipe dream.”
Some form of universal health care is what many, if not most, industrialized countries have. Taiwan, Japan, England, Canada, Germany, and on and on.
In all of these countries, health care is regarded as a human right, not a privilege for a few. This attitude prevails on both sides of the political spectrum.
We don’t have a perfect health care system in this country. It has many serious flaws. We can do better.

Posted by: LBC | October 30, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm

In our current system, we pay our taxes and govt. spreads it, whether it is for schools, welfare, farm subsides, medicare, SSI, and the list goes on.
If you haven’t felt that you had to pray for the country and feel that we were doomed over these past four years and a Republican presidency…then you have skin of steel and 4 years under a democratic presidency should be a peice of cake!! If you prefer to hear the philosophy of Joe the Plumber and Hose the whatever, good for you!
I think the fact that Obama having raised the amount of money that his campaign has is a great reflection of how commited the people are to helping change occur. The fact that he chose to use that amount to talk about the lives of every day people, our problems and callenges, was life this infomercial was “for the people”.
I think it is another good example of his commitment and his heart!!

Posted by: wethepeople | October 30, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm

Just remember, Rev. Wright, who has know Sen. Obama for over 20 years, said as a politician, Sen. Obama will say anything to get elected. I believe him.

Posted by: Grams | October 30, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm

I’d rather see the real Obama that performed in the LA Times video. The video where he is purportedly back-slapping with supporters of terrorism.

Posted by: Mack | October 30, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm

People not voting Democratic this year are just scared of voting for a non-white man. There really is no other explanation why someone would allow the republicans to control the white house for another 4 years. This should be a no-brainer. Billions a month to a war against a country that never attacked us and a astronomical deficit as a result. Give me a break! Rome fell for lesser sins.

Posted by: Dan | October 30, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm

JJ, Right here on this site there’s a link on the home page.
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=6142550

Posted by: Yes_We_Will | October 30, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm

It is funny that people here criticize Obama for being able to put together and express coherent thoughts without bumbling through it like McCain. It seems they prefer incompetence in a prez.

Posted by: bugg | October 30, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm

LBC…
you’re right. WE CAN DO BETTER. we can do better in ALOT of areas, but why does the left always think that we have to the give government control of these things to make them better?!

Posted by: tim | October 30, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm

I am curious; does everyone feel we have lunatics running around hell bent on destroying the Dems and Barack, or worse? This is the worst political divide I have ever seen in our country. The venom, hate and vile that is coming out of too many McCain supporters is scary. The number of these ‘whackos’ is increasing. All of the rabble rousers should be held accountable for any and all acts of violence that may ensue; i.e. Limbaugh, Colter, Savage, O’Reilley, Hannity, Hedgecock, Fox News, etc. Most of all McCain and Palin need to be held accountable for any violence that ensues. They could have stopped this.

Posted by: SomebodyHandJohnSomeGinko | October 30, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm

Being a permanent (12 year) resident I do not get to vote in this election yet I feel compelled to make a point or two in the matter. If nothing else I would like not having to explain myself when I go to Europe in two weeks. No doubt only the remaining undecided can be swayed – and if nothing else perhaps a little dose of pragmatism may be what’s missing….
The candidates can make promises until they are blue in the face. Remember who writes lawns and regulations and who signs it. If McCain wins, more then likely he will be spending his term vetoing legislation coming from a democratically ruled senate and congress. In other words, no matter what he promises for all intents and purposes he will get very little if anything done. On the other hand, if Obama wins there is the chance of full control of the legislatorial by the democrats; for better or worse that is. But can it be any worse?
All of our true international allies, current and potential, are democracies. That means that their (elected) leaders will not act in contrary to the popular opinion about the US, its administration, and policies. If McCain wins, their position will remain unchanged and we remain largely internationally isolated with our hands tied for at least four more years. Obama on the other hand, has a huge popularly credit in just about every country that matters. This means that the leaders of our allies may not only be willing but also able to corporate with the US in little affairs such as Iraq and Afghanistan. That is what will bring victory and our troops home sooner than any surge ever will.
Without government (tax) funding for major infrastructure investments and research and development there would be no highway system, railroad system, major ports and airports, computers, internet, GPS, satellite TV, nuclear power, mp3 players, space travel, Teflon, reverse osmosis and desalination, etc. etc. All the technologies and infrastructure were developed with federal and state funding – by the tax payer. By in larger the taxes you pay benefit you but you don’t benefit from the 120 ft yacht and private island paid for with the taxes the super rich should have paid.
Every technological, medial, or scientific advancement has been made because of very smart, highly educated people – or as they are now called Elitist. These are the people that really create jobs, by innovating, inventing, by being visionary. Just think of how many jobs have come from the creators of Google, Microsoft, HP, Apple, IBM, these people were not rich, thinking about how to best trickle down – they were smart first and then became rich. While Joe the plumber may fix your faucet he’s not likely going to be behind the next scientific breakthrough, not cure any disease, or develop the next Microsoft or Google. So really we are much better of with more “Elitism”.
Finally supporting the weakest members of society may it be through scholarships, food stamps, unemployment checks, low income housing, or shelters is as much socialism as it is to treat somebody’s medial emergency even though they don’t have insurance and can’t pay for it. It’s funny that our compassioned conservatives only remember their Christian values when it comes to abortion or gay marriage.
Vote Obama! It’s our best bet.

Posted by: mbgerm | October 30, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm

Robert-
If your going to continue to drink and post…..please proof your work.
You should be watching Ellen….since you tivo it everyday!

Posted by: darrylfromindy | October 30, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm

In tough times we need to feel good , And in some way barack have a way to rally everyone regardless of what you are . in office we finally will have someone who can steady the ship in rough waters.

Posted by: sam | October 30, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm

By the way, why are people being meanspirited toward each other? Who is anyone to tell anyone else who to vote for? Belittling anyone on the other side will not make them vote for your candidate no matter what. Vote for who you want to vote and do not go around attacking anyone who does not for your candidate. It’s rude and not necessary, for it will not change anything anyway.
Sheesh! Let’s not change this country into Zimbabwe, where if you do not vote for a certain person, you get beat up and/or killed. That’s not how a democracy works.

Posted by: GWP | October 30, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm

Willy, Sen. Obama’s elderly Kenyan relatives do not live in Kenya. According to the UK Times, they live in a low income housing project in Boston, not too far from Harvard. There is no mention in the article that their law professor nephew ever offered assistance and they refused.He obviously had other more lofty pursuits on his mind.

Posted by: ellennova | October 30, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm

dan…
that is the most ridiculous claim ive heard all day!!! i love it… anyone who isnt for obama is OBVIOUSLY a racist…. lol typical liberal.

Posted by: tim | October 30, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm

Please keep up the lies about ‘Muslim”, ‘terrorists”. etc. Those are exactly the gutter tactics that have turned off so many Americans to McCain. Thanks for your support.

Posted by: bugg | October 30, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm

For those of you against progressive taxation, as our system stands, go ahead and stop paying taxes. When you do please do us a favor and stop sending your kids to public schools, stop cashing social security checks, don’t rely on firemen to save your house or the police to help you out, stop your grandparents medicaid coverage, drive on dirt roads you’ve drawn yourself and figure out how to cross water w/o a bridge AND instead of letting the government figure out defense on your behalf, figure it out yourself. Wait, some of those programs actually work for you? I’m sure the poor folks working two jobs may feel the way you do about different programs that work for them.

Posted by: ces | October 30, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm

I am so proud of Senator Obama. After watching his 30 min ad I felt very proud to be an american ….Unlike watching the McCain/Pailn rallies which make you feel sick & as if you need a hot bath to wash off their filth!

Posted by: SomebodyHandJohnSomeGinko | October 30, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm

“People not voting Democratic this year are just scared of voting for a non-white man.”
Not everyone has been brain-washed. Some of actually think for ourselves and don’t rely on the media for guidance. Only useful idiots can’t see through the rhetoric.

Posted by: Mack | October 30, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm

There seems to be a lot of paranoia about Obama’s tax plan. It’s not that radical, people. It’s a shifting of part of the tax burden from the middle class to the rich. Bush did it the other way. These things go back and forth and always have.
So much talk about handouts etc — don’t you realize we already have tax brackets, people who earn more pay a higher percentage? That’s nothing new. And we already have tax credits. E.g., for first time home-buyers. Is that a handout???
The hysteria needs to be dialed down a bit. Obama’s plan is really not that dramatic, and besides most people posting here will probably benefit from it.

Posted by: BJ | October 30, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm

you’re right. WE CAN DO BETTER. we can do better in ALOT of areas, but why does the left always think that we have to the give government control of these things to make them better?!
Posted by: tim | Oct 30, 2008 7:18:54 PM

because, as deregulation of the financial industries shows, you can’t trust people to regulate themselves.
the rich just want to get richer, and the class division grows wider by the year.
unless you have government rules… our country would go under from the greed of the few at the top.
.

Posted by: Soundboy_Jeff | October 30, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm

I didn’t watch…

Posted by: billy | October 30, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm

– It seems they prefer incompetence in a prez. –
They do.. it was the rabid right that gave us 8 years of a numbnuts in office. One who thinks that increasing spending and cutting taxes is the way to solve our problems. One who I seriously doubt has ever read the Constitution, or his sidekick, who is now claiming that the VP position is not part of the executive branch.
And now they want us to elect a dumber Bush that would continue spending and cut taxes even further.
These people do not care about their country, and it shows.

Posted by: Concerned American | October 30, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm

****Breaking News CNN**********
An offshore correspondent is reporting Michelle Obama is really Osama Bin Laden in makeup.
HAHAHAAHAHA…come on people….relax!

Posted by: darrylfromindy | October 30, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm

Being a permanent (12 year) resident I do not get to vote in this election yet I feel compelled to make a point or two in the matter. If nothing else I would like not having to explain myself when I go to Europe in two weeks. No doubt only the remaining undecided can be swayed – and if nothing else perhaps a little dose of pragmatism may be what’s missing….
The candidates can make promises until they are blue in the face. Remember who writes lawns and regulations and who signs it. If McCain wins, more then likely he will be spending his term vetoing legislation coming from a democratically ruled senate and congress. In other words, no matter what he promises for all intents and purposes he will get very little if anything done. On the other hand, if Obama wins there is the chance of full control of the legislatorial by the democrats; for better or worse that is. But can it be any worse?
All of our true international allies, current and potential, are democracies. That means that their (elected) leaders will not act in contrary to the popular opinion about the US, its administration, and policies. If McCain wins, their position will remain unchanged and we remain largely internationally isolated with our hands tied for at least four more years. Obama on the other hand, has a huge popularly credit in just about every country that matters. This means that the leaders of our allies may not only be willing but also able to corporate with the US in little affairs such as Iraq and Afghanistan. That is what will bring victory and our troops home sooner than any surge ever will.
Without government (tax) funding for major infrastructure investments and research and development there would be no highway system, railroad system, major ports and airports, computers, internet, GPS, satellite TV, nuclear power, mp3 players, space travel, Teflon, reverse osmosis and desalination, etc. etc. All the technologies and infrastructure were developed with federal and state funding – by the tax payer. By in larger the taxes you pay benefit you but you don’t benefit from the 120 ft yacht and private island paid for with the taxes the super rich should have paid.
Every technological, medial, or scientific advancement has been made because of very smart, highly educated people – or as they are now called Elitist. These are the people that really create jobs, by innovating, inventing, by being visionary. Just think of how many jobs have come from the creators of Google, Microsoft, HP, Apple, IBM, these people were not rich, thinking about how to best trickle down – they were smart first and then became rich. While Joe the plumber may fix your faucet he’s not likely going to be behind the next scientific breakthrough, not cure any disease, or develop the next Microsoft or Google. So really we are much better of with more “Elitism”.
Finally supporting the weakest members of society may it be through scholarships, food stamps, unemployment checks, low income housing, or shelters is as much socialism as it is to treat somebody’s medial emergency even though they don’t have insurance and can’t pay for it. It’s funny that our compassioned conservatives only remember their Christian values when it comes to abortion or gay marriage.
Vote Obama! It’s our best bet.

Posted by: mbgerm | October 30, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm

I FEEL PRETTY
Obama
I feel pretty,
Oh, so pretty,
I feel pretty, and witty and gay,
And I pity
Any boy who isn’t me today.
I feel charming,
Oh, so charming–
It’s alarming how charming I feel,
And so pretty
That I hardly can believe I’m real.
See the pretty boy in that mirror there:
Who can that attractive boy be?
Such a pretty face,
Such a pretty suit,
Such a pretty smile,
Such a pretty me!
I feel stunning
And entrancing–
Feel like running and dancing for joy,
For I’m loved
By a pretty wonderful USA!
ROSALIA, CONSUELO, FRANCISCA
Have you met my good friend,Barak,
The craziest boy on the block?
You’ll know him the minute you see him–
he’s the one who is in an advanced
State of shock.
he thinks he’s is love.
he thinks he’s in Spain.
he isn’t in love,
he’s merely insane.
It must be the heat
Or some rare disease
Or too much to eat,
Or maybe it’s fleas.
Keep away from him –
Send for Chino!
This is not the Barak
We know!
Modest and pure,
Polite and refined,
Well-bred and mature
And out of his mind!
BARAK
I feel pretty,
Oh, so pretty
That the city should give me its key.
A committee
Should be organized to honor me.
I feel dizzy
I feel sunny,
I feel fizzy and funny and fine,
And so pretty,
CAPT. America can just resign!
See the pretty BOY in that mirror there:
ROSALIA, CONSUELO, FRANCISCA
What mirror where?
barak
Who can that attractive girl be?
ROSALIA, CONSUELO, FRANCISCA
Which? What? Where? Whom?
BARAK
Such a pretty face,
Such a pretty dress,
Such a pretty smile,
Such a pretty me!
ALL
I feel stunning
And entrancing–
Feel like running and dancing for joy,
For I’m love
from: THE BEST SIDE STORY
By a pretty wonderful boy!

Posted by: johnXdem | October 30, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm

All the cornbeef Commies,the Lexus liberals, and the buffet Bosheviks will be crying in their Borscht next Tuesday.

Posted by: Hippie Smasher | October 30, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm

Somebody hand….
You probably are in debt from buying crap from QVC…you gulliable liberal.

Posted by: darrylfromindy | October 30, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm

CNN ran a piece today that showed a high school of inner city blacks.
Everyone of them said they wanted to see a black man elected President.
Now if that is not UNEDUCATED, I dont know what is.
It shows how ignorant people can be.
And that is scary.
Get ready for riots when he loses.
Posted by: darrylfromindy | Oct 30, 2008 6:50:42 PM
It’s called being PROUD.

Posted by: annie | October 30, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm

McCain is SO negative. His campaign speeches are NOT about what he can do, but What Obama won’t do. I am so tired of his cranky, old, underdog, whiny, mantra. Grow up McCain…this isn’t highschool, it’s the PRESIDENCY of the United States.

Posted by: Intelligent voter | October 30, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm

As a supporter of Obama, yes, to assume someone votes against Obama due to racism is as ridiculous as the many, many lies posted about Obama by Mccain supporters.
Everyone gets a vote, and you don’t have to justify to anyone ‘why’ you vote that way.

Posted by: bugg | October 30, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm

soundboy jeff..
i didnt say i was against regulation. you’re right, if certain things arent regulated, greed will eventually ruin it. you forgot to mention the liberal agenda that has been in congress for over a decade, which was to make the banks lend money to people who couldnt afford it. now ALL of us are paying for their “american dream”. but i was referring to health care. just because we have issues to fix with it, why do some (liberals) think we should trust government to do this?! its a simple question i have for all liberals: WHAT MAKES YOU TRUST THE GOVERNMENT SO MUCH? its odd that i never , ever get a direct reply to that one… lol

Posted by: tim | October 30, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm

Obama redistributed the wealth from taxpayers to rich bankers when he supported the Bush bail out plan. Obama talks change then does same as Bush, supporting rich corrupt bankers instead of the people. Change for Obama is just a slick talking political slogan that he did not follow when he had a perfect chance to support the people instead of big business.

Posted by: Victor | October 30, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm

The best thing about the Obama infomercial is that there was no crime. All his supporters were watching their messiah instead of out looting. They are going to have to work double time now to make up for the dem’s loss of support funds.

Posted by: Jose Shema | October 30, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm

“you forgot to mention the liberal agenda that has been in congress for over a decade,”
Interesting. I didn’t realize Republicans were considered to be liberals.

Posted by: bugg | October 30, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm

ces at 7:22pm — nice post. A lot of people seem to give absolutely no thought to what their taxes are used for. It takes a lot to support a first world economy. Roads, garbage removal, snow removal, a police force, schools, bridges, etc. etc. People brush all that off as if we don’t really need any of that.
The truth is we all depend on many things on a daily basis which the government provides, with our tax dollars, and which we take for granted.

Posted by: BJ | October 30, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm

CNN Breaking News (again)
NASA has contacted Obama and offered him a position after he loses the election……….
They need him to listen for life on Mars.
They figure with the size of his ears….he will hear the Martians.
HAHAHAHA …..now that was funny.

Posted by: darrylfromindy | October 30, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm

this is what a man would do when he is behind….guess who dont believe the polls also….:::????::::

Posted by: johnXdem | October 30, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm

Johnxdem….thank you for no longer being a Democrat, you’re an immature disgrace. Grow up!
I guess you think it’s okay for mcCain to have 70 lobbyists on his campiagn payroll and the next person who he picked to head his transition team is William Timmons, the biggest lobbyist on capitol hill. McCain is in the pockets of big business and lobbyists, just like Bush and your buying it. Read something other than kiddie poems.

Posted by: Intelligent voter | October 30, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm

Dear Biafra. u r not alone. My problem is I find it so amazing that people cannot see the whole picture. McCain may be a super hero, but that is all. In his choosing Palin to be 2nd in command makes me wonder if his days as a POW are catching up to him, as in one of his rallies he was quoted as saying “my fellow prisoners” instead of my fellow citizens. Now that’s scary.

Posted by: BJS | October 30, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm

bugg…
what republican in the congress is to blame for making the financial institutions make loans to idiots who couldnt afford it??!!

Posted by: tim | October 30, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm

I can’t read any more of these posts. The ignorance level is hurting my head. So many people saying how wonderful it will be under Obama… they’re living in la-la land.
If BO is so righteous, then why doesn’t he put his money where his mouth is? Spending so much money to convince the weakminded that he should be Pres…BUT NEVER TALKING ABOUT HOW HE HAS EXPERIENCE TO DO WHAT HE SAYS. He HAS to spend that much money, because he couldn’t do it on merit.
I’m not a McCain fan, but he has a proven track record.
As far as Job experience and taxes.
Governors make the best Presidents because you run the State like a country…so that’s the best job experience that can be had. So many people on this blog just repeat what they hear…you’ve been sold a 10 carat diamond for $2 bucks, want to guess what it’s worth?
If you watched the 30 min fiction movie of BO, you got what you paid for…

Posted by: Ace | October 30, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm

“Obama infomercial”
The founding fathers are spinning in their graves.

Posted by: Mack | October 30, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm

Intelligent voter,,,,,,your not the boss of me…..

Posted by: johnXdem | October 30, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm

OBAMA IS A PARANOID WIERDO.

Posted by: Jim | October 30, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm

Jose go back to your own country.

Posted by: , | October 30, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm

Twas The Night Before The Elections
‘Twas the night before elections
And all through the town
Tempers were flaring
Emotions all up and down!
I, in my bathrobe
With a cat in my lap
Had cut off the TV
Tired of political crap.
When all of a sudden
There arose such a noise
I peered out of my window
Saw Obama and his boys
They had come for my wallet
They wanted my pay
To give to the other s
Who had not worked a day!
He snatched up my money
And quick as a wink
Jumped back on his bandwagon
As I gagged from the stink
He then rallied his henchmen
Who were pulling his cart
I could tell they were out
To tear my country apart!
” On Fannie, on Fr eddie,
On Biden and Ayers!
On Acorn, On Pelosi”
He screamed at the pairs!
They took off for his cause
And as he flew out of sight
I heard him laugh at the nation
Who wouldn’t stand up and fight!
So I leave you to think
On this one final note-
IF YOU DONT WANT SOCIALISM
GET OUT AND VOTE!!!!

Posted by: Karl | October 30, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm

bugg…
also, im sure you looked at my general question to all the liberals in here who have the balls to answer it…. why do you trust he government so much, in order to want more and more of it?

Posted by: tim | October 30, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm

Why is it socialism giving tax breaks to the middle class but not giving tax breaks to the wealthy.

Posted by: Just Wondering | October 30, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm

Jim, I agree! I think he’s paranoid because he has low self-esteem because he doesn’t know anything. He’s proved that when asked questions off the cuff and when he doesn’t answer right, HE BAD-MOUTHS THE PEOPLE WHO ASK HIM THE QUESTION!

Posted by: Anna | October 30, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm

“Yes_we_will” — I just saw you posted the link to the ad — thanks!

Posted by: JJ | October 30, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm

– I’m not a McCain fan, but he has a proven track record. –
Yes he does.. He was against the Bush tax cuts, and now he is for them.
He fought against waterboarding and then voted against the bill that would prevent them.
He had no problem funding militant terrorists until he realized saying so would be a liability.
He said he would run an honorable campaign, and that went out the window in the beginning of the campaign.
He has a dismal military career and would have been given the boot if it were not for his families influence.
He has a short temper and is trigger happy. He has made more enemies in Congress than he has friends.
He has come out and said he knows nothing about the economy, yet wants us to trust him to fix it by reducing taxes even further. Sorry, I don’t want to pay higher taxes so he can give it to the wealthy.
His family life is a disaster, and his behavior over the last several months mirrors his personal life.
He tries to form tenuous associations between Obama and others, neglecting to mention his own direct involvement with some of the worst elements in our world.
Quite a record.

Posted by: Concerned American | October 30, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm

whooooaaa, slow down all you obama supporters.. not all at once here.. lol i cant get ONE reply from an obama supporter in here why they trust the government so much??!! no one hasthe balls??!!

Posted by: tim | October 30, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm

tim,
I was just addressing your lie, when you said “you forgot to mention the liberal agenda that has been in congress for over a decade,”. Republicans have been in control for the vast majority of during that period.
I do not address your other points becasue you do lie.

Posted by: bugg | October 30, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm

That infomercial was a freaking joke! Anyone pick up on the fake Oval Office backdrop? Just like the fake seal he had. All things to make the weak minded and easily swayed think he is actually presidential. I’m sure during the whole 30 minutes George Stephanopolis was pleasuring himself.

Posted by: MBNA Joe | October 30, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm

Karl, Just like a Republican…..spending hours of time making up stupid poems….I think I’ll give Obama another donation and make some more campaign calls–GO OBAMA!

Posted by: Intelligent voter | October 30, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm

Obama redistributed the wealth from taxpayers to rich bankers when he supported the Bush bail out plan. Obama talks change then did what Bush wanted, supporting rich corrupt bankers instead of the people. Don’t just talk change, do it. Obama didn’t have the balls to stand up for the people when he voted with politicians to support bail out of rich banks. Obama, try supporting american people not banks. Don’t just talk change, do it when you have a perfect chance.

Posted by: Victor | October 30, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm

“Posted by: Ace | Oct 30, 2008 7:35:45 PM”
Great post. These people can’t separate reality from fantasy.

Posted by: Mack | October 30, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm

odingas banner for the ORANGE PARTY\
SOCIAL DEMOCRACY FOR CHANGE\
see what happened there when his distant relative lost?\\
mob control will be needed in shy town…

Posted by: johnXdem | October 30, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm

bugg…
you’re trying to tell me the liberals in congress have NOT been pushing for increasing the number of homeowners in our country?! have you not done ANY research on this at all, or are you just being stubborn?! also, dont be scared… just tell me why you trust the government so much.. you can do it…

Posted by: tim | October 30, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm

– i cant get ONE reply from an obama supporter in here why they trust the government so much?? –
Nobody trusts the government to do everything right.. we just trust Obama more than we trust McCain, who has continued to lie to the American public since his campaign started, whos proposed plans would wind up costing almost twice that of Obamas, and yet he has absolutely no way to generate revenue at all, and whos plans are simply mirror images of Bush.

Posted by: Concerned American | October 30, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm

INTELLIGENT VOTER…..I am a Democrat and have voted that way FOR YEARS but not this year,,,,What a joke Obama is and a disgrace to our country. I crossed the party line last week and voted early for McCain

Posted by: Karl | October 30, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm

Does anyone know where we can get a legal proof of where Obama was born. His grandmother (father’s side) says she was at his birth – IN KENYA. It is said that there is no real birth certificate for him in the U.S. This would disqualify him to be president. Can ABC use their resources to find out?

Posted by: Brenda | October 30, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm

I am excited and look forward to the future with Obama as our leader! I don’t know who all of you people are who are against paying taxes. Do you not use the things that taxes pay for like schools, police, roads, hospitals?

Posted by: Lauren | October 30, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm

concerned american…
i could give a lengthy reply to that, but ill hold on that and keep it real simple: why do YOU trust obama more than mccain?

Posted by: tim | October 30, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm

“Can ABC use their resources to find out?”
They’re too busy investigating Palin’s shoes and aliens.

Posted by: Mack | October 30, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm

tim,
I called you on a flat out lie, not a difference of opinion or interpretation. You still ignore that. I will not discuss anything of substance with anyone who deliberately lies about hard facts.

Posted by: bugg | October 30, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm

half his donations were $100.00 hardy har har har (holding my sides ),,,oh ad man you slay me,,,,har har,,,,,,Intelligent Voter ,,,your a msonmer of sorts,,,,,,,Your man tragedyed by Hillary,,,,,and that was not funny,,,,,,Bill eats jimCROW,,,,and recants “this man is a fairy tale” “give me a break”…..IT ALL TRUST AND I DONT TRUST THIS MAN TO TELL ME WHICH WAY THE WIND BLOW….S.

Posted by: johnXdem | October 30, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm

I just want to say, “THANK YOU!” to everyone that is voting for McPalin. So that they have a sporting chance against OBAMA!

Posted by: Looney | October 30, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm

bugg…
you’re just saying that because,apparently, you dont want to talk about it. tell me that im lying when i say, “it has been a liberal agenda in congress, for over a decade, to push for more homeowners in america”. you cant. its documented. the facts are everywhere. im not saying its the only problem, but you simply cant say thats a lie.

Posted by: tim | October 30, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm

This fool spends 7 million dollars to blow his lies and propoganda at us. Obama is not a U.S citizen and it will come out next year. He was born in Kenya and his tribe has testified to that. He will be impeached, put on trial for high crimes and misdemeanors, imprisoned, and finally and thankfully deported.
It’s coming.

Posted by: Jim | October 30, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm

let me try yet again: obama supporters.. please tell me why you trust the government so much?

Posted by: tim | October 30, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm

HE CON OL ME

Posted by: johnXdem | October 30, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm

YOU MIGHT BE A REPUBLICAN (REDNECK) IF…
*You run around shouting you are a real christian and don’t believe in that thar sex eddication stuff and yer 17 year old unmarried daughter is preggers by her drop-out boyfriend!
*You go to 5 different colleges just to get an undergraduate degree in that thar journalism stuff.
*You graddyate in the bottom 5 of yer class! All them Harvard folks is so elitist, aint they? Them with thar fancy eddications! So unneccesary to run this here country with. Heck, that don’t take no smarts or book learnin!
*You like to shoot them poor defenseless animals from your helly-copter. Gee it is so sportsmanlike, aint it? It makes the white snow all nice and red like. Purty!
*You call your opponent every name in the book and spread all kindsa nasty baseless gossip, (even though he has treated you all with respect and avoided the numerous chances to throw real mud back at y’all!), just sos you can win this here election! Damn straight!
*yer wife done get herself addicted to them thar drugs and stole them from a charity she worked for! OOh, that thar is a real doozy!
*You spend 150,000 dollars on some nice new duds when you just finished telling the folks how you was “one of them”, and then you get all kinda uppity like when people fuss over that. Silly people! Can’t a gal look spiffy on what amounts to over 2 years salary for an average person? Gee golly whiz!
*You might be a republican (redneck) if you still insist on votin for these here people even though the truth is hittin ya smack between the eyes that your party don’t really represent you all at all. They is the party of the wealthy and the priveledged. They is just puttin on some flannel shirts to trick ya Gomer! You know better than that now, doncha?
*Ya’ll have a good day now, ya hear?! YEEHAW!

Posted by: Hey Y'all! | October 30, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm

– why do YOU trust obama more than mccain? –
I’ve looked at his record and what legislation he has introduced, fought for and backed. I’ve seen where his intentions are and have been since leaving college. I’ve looked at each candidates positions on the issues and see that Obamas would be better for this country and more Americans. I’ve found that time and time again his insight has been the right direction for the country despite it not always being the ‘popular’ one.
McCain on the other hand would have us continue down the path laid out by Bush and Co., and in fact, Bushs foreign policy was largely crafted by McCain, particularly with regards to Iraq. He has an overly heavy military mindset and the lack of intelligence or rational composition to properly guide that military mindset. His health insurance plan is a disaster for our country which is already in a crisis, as is his tax plan, both of which simply favor the wealthy. His foreign policy stance would continue this country along it’s isolationist and unilateral venue, further eroding our national security and foreign allies cooperation.
I could go on, but I’m sure it would be wasted electrons.
Obama – for the future of our Country.

Posted by: Concerned American | October 30, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm

MAN NIP U LATER
BIG 10 4

Posted by: johnXdem | October 30, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm

Obama is inspiring and a good man and you don’t have to agree with his policies or vote for him, but if all you can do is throw insults and make racist statements instead of facts, that’s pretty sad. John McCain has run a despicable camp make no mistake, that is how he will govern.
Obama/Biden 08

Posted by: Sarah | October 30, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm

A Godless country is a failed country whoever is in charge. What did you think would happen when you pushed to take God out of everything? This country is in the state that it is in because of lack of morals ; killing unborn babies, homosexual rights, adultery, greed. I never knew about partial births until this election. As someone who has lost a child I find it repulsive. God is so merciful if it were me I would see that some people were barren.

Posted by: tr | October 30, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm

Tim,
Are you in Dallas area?

Posted by: darrylfromindy | October 30, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm

Tim,
Are you in Dallas area?

Posted by: darrylfromindy | October 30, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm

tim — you’re asking about why some people trust the government so much (I think you originally asked in the context of, why would we want gov’t to be involved with health care).
I wouldn’t say I trust gov’t so much. But I do think that there are some things government does well, better than states or towns or companies can do on their own.
Some examples off the top of my head:
* I think the U.S. Post Office does an amazing job. For a few cents, a letter arrives anywhere in the country a day or two later, no matter the weather. It’s a pretty good service. I’d hate to see that being privatized.
* I lived in England during the time that Margaret Thatcher was privatizing everything. The trains used to be run by BritRail, which was gov’t-owned. They were super efficient, on time, and clean. Now they are all privatized and when I go back there, the same routes take me much longer, and are much less reliable.
* In Japan, the insurance companies are non-profit, and the government sets the rates. The companies compete for greatest efficiency. No-one in Japan goes bankrupt because of medical bills. No-one has trouble getting coverage because of a pre-existing condition. Most people approve highly of their health care system.
In this country, we let the health insurance companies get away with way too much. Good for them, bad for us. People’s lives can be ruined by medical expenses (this is something you only become aware of once you’ve been in this situation or known someone who has). Corporations are by nature greedy. I believe there is a role for government to play in regulating them and setting rates (more of a role than currently exists).
Those are a few examples where I think government can be beneficial.
Well that’s enough for one post.

Posted by: Alan K. | October 30, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm

concerned american…
thanks for at least having the courage to state your beliefs. im amazed, you are the only one in here in over an hour, that actually said what they believe. i dont agree with alot that you say, seeing that obama is kind of like going all in with a pair of deuces, but you’re entitled to you’re opinion.

Posted by: tim | October 30, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm

– What did you think would happen when you pushed to take God out of everything? –
The vast majority of intolerance and hatred would be removed from our society, and people would finally realize that there is no greater good than humanity and would start working towards improving that greater good. Thank you for asking.

Posted by: Concerned American | October 30, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm

i masterbated 3 times watching the infomercial!!!

Posted by: stephen | October 30, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm

The McCain Family Newsletter proudly endorses Barack Obama for president.
http://www.236.com/news/2008/10/28/the_mccain_family_newsletter_p_9849.php

Posted by: No MCcain | October 30, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm

The LA Times should show us the video of Obama and his pal Rashid Khalidi calling for the destruction of Israel and insulting this nation.

Posted by: Demsnever | October 30, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm

Was at the Obama rally today and was close enough to the stage to shout to him that we conservative Virginians don’t accept his socialist agenda in our state. Got some local cheers.

Posted by: jamesferrel | October 30, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm

Lil M: “jhw539 – just go to the IRS’s website if you want to confirm the income tax brackets. It’s all online.”
You are being disingeious. Your original screed had nothing to do with tax brackets, it had to do with the lie that “the lower 40 % of wage earners are exempt from paying taxes – they pay NOTHING…” This is completely and totally untrue and indicates either dishonesty or a shocking ignorance of reality.

Posted by: jhw539 | October 30, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm

Fact 1: Tim says “”you forgot to mention the liberal agenda that has been in congress for over a decade,”
Fact 2: Republicans controlled Congress during most of that period.
Therefore, either Tim believes Republicans are liberals or he is a liar.
Ignore the trolls.

Posted by: bugg | October 30, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm

– What did you think would happen when you pushed to take God out of everything? –
________________________
Less wars.

Posted by: , | October 30, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm

tim said:
“it has been a liberal agenda in congress, for over a decade, to push for more homeowners in america”
Ok, this is correct. The ultimate goal is for EVERYONE who WANTS a home of their own to be empowered to make that purchase. But there will always be the Potters (from It’s a Wonderful Life) of this world that would NOT like that very much. I am puzzled as to why you mention this. Since the Republicans have controlled the House from 1995 to 2007, NOTHING could be done to promote this … So what is your point?

Posted by: truth seeker | October 30, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm

Lil M: “jhw539 New Hampshire, for one.”
New Hampshire for one what? They have gas tax, they have property tax, they tax capital gains, etc.
Your original statement was a hollow talking point that required a page of fine print not to be a blatant lie. You omitted the page of fine print and posted a blatant lie. I am trying to discern if this was deliberate or because, as the Republicans hope, you honestly don’t understand all the caveats and exceptions they had to include to make your original statement ‘true.’

Posted by: jhw539 | October 30, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm

– conservative Virginians don’t accept his socialist agenda in our state –
Hmm, well it appears that Obama is supported 53% to McCains 43% in VA.. guess those conservative Virginians don’t hold a majority, or some of them are secretly voting for Obama.

Posted by: Concerned American | October 30, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm

“A Godless country is a failed country whoever is in charge”
—————————————-
All countrys are godless. They are also tooth-fairy-less.

Posted by: bugg | October 30, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm

Well it took me 5 min to get to the comment box but. I am just 15 and i cant vote but i am the vp of the freshman class at my school and if i had the right to vote i probably wold not vote. i think that we need a president who has the ideas of the democrat and republican side. that way we wont have a civil war in the legislature.

Posted by: Blake Ross | October 30, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm

Universal Healthcare is a broad concept that has been implemented in several ways. The problem is we are being asked to put our trust in politicians, and history teaches us that it’s wrong, and dangerous, to blindly trust government. In the US, most of the existing problems with our current healthcare system are a direct result of statism. For example, it’s common sense that prevention is the name of the game, and that one can stay healthy by implementing lifestyle changes, such as eating healthy and exercising. You hurt no one but yourself if you choose to smoke, drink alcohol, etc. It’s your body, do what you want, I don’t care, however, it becomes MY business when government forces me to pay for your bad behaviors, as the supporters of socialized health care propose. Government is not the answer to our health care problems. Government is the problem.

Posted by: john | October 30, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm

It’s all about good speech and lots of MONEY.
Whoever can talk and have more money will win this election.
If he wins, I’ll be waiting for his judgment.

Posted by: catleya | October 30, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm

‘,’ [8:06;24]
Well put.

Posted by: bugg | October 30, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm

– Universal Healthcare is a broad concept that has been implemented in several ways. –
Most people believe that ‘Universal healthcare’ is socialized medicine, particularly when looking at Obamas health plan. That is an inaccurate description. Obama does nothing to health care providers, and simply would create a national heath insurance provider that would be in addition to, and compete against existing private providers.
The difference would be that the national insurance pool would be larger, therefore able to negotiate better prices and absorb high risk patients. It will not be mandatory, and people with existing coverage can continue on with their policies and ignore the national insurance. In addition, tax cuts for businesses providing health insurance for their employers would result in an estimated $140 billion a year in savings, which would be injected directly into our economy, along with the increase in revenue due to the increased number of insured patients (47% of currently uninsured as opposed to 7% at peak under McCain).
McCain on the other hand would tax employer provided health insurance in an effort to switch people to private coverage, and would then give a fixed tax credit across the board regardless of income. Like his tax plan, his health plan favors the wealthy, and would result in more Americans losing coverage.
http://www.epi.org/content.cfm/pm126

Posted by: Concerned American | October 30, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm

One thing we must all remember…all of these folks are politicians. The Clintons, The Bushes, the Kennedy’s, the Pelosi’s, the Reid’s the Gore’s the McCain’s, the Obama’s, the Biden’s, the Palins,…they are all politicians. Our government has not been for the people or by the people for a long time. It has been and still is for the money and by the money. You folks just do what you can and don’t count on these politicians doing any of this stuff they are promising, because they don’t do much at all.Clinton had a democratic congress and senate, and Bush had a Republican one. Both of them did very little of what they promised. Clinton followed the money and so did Bush, so does McCain and so does Obama. Just vote for who you think is the best candidate and stop this silly rangling.

Posted by: Mike | October 30, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm

For those of you who think its wrong to take from others fail to understand that we need roads, bridges, hospitals, schools, etc. There are also people less fortunate than us, who can’t afford health care, or college tuition. You can’t forgot about the disabled or the elderly either. We need to pay taxes, and it would make sense that those who can afford to pay more taxes, pay more taxes.

Posted by: Kathy | October 30, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm

Clinton had a Democratic congress and asked for a $16 BILLION dollar economic package and got denied because Congress back then said this was fiscally unresponsible. Compare that with today. Yikes!!!
The next time you hear a politician use the word ‘billion’ in a casual manner, think about whether you want the
‘politicians’ spending YOUR tax money.
A billion is a difficult number to comprehend, but one advertising agency did a good job of putting that figure into some perspective in one of it’s releases.
A. A billion seconds ago it was 1959..
B. A billion minutes ago Jesus was alive.
C. A billion hours ago our ancestors were living in the Stone Age.
D. A billion days ago no-one walked on the earth on two feet.
E. A billion dollars ago was only 8 hours and 20 minutes, at the rate our government is spending it.
While this thought is still fresh in our brain… let’s take a look at New Orleans …
It’s amazing what you can learn with some simple division.
Louisiana Senator, Mary Landrieu (D) is presently asking Congress for 250 BILLION DOLLARS to rebuild New
Orleans . Interesting number… what does it mean?
A. Well… if you are one of the 484,674 residents of New Orleans (every man, woman, and child) you each
get $516,528.
B. Or… if you have one of the 188,251 homes in New Orleans , your home gets $1,329,787.
C. Or… if you are a family of four… your family gets $2,066,012.
Washington, D. C…HELLO!
Are your calculators broken??
Consider the following taxes:
Accounts Receivable Tax
Building Permit Tax
CDL License Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Dog License Tax
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax
Fuel Permit Tax
Gasoline Tax
Hunting License Tax
Inheritance Tax
Inventory Tax
IRS Interest Charges (tax on top of tax)
IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
Liquor Tax
Luxury Tax
Marriage License Tax
Medicare Tax
Property Tax
Real Estate Tax
Service charge taxes
Social Security Tax
Road Usage Tax (Truckers)
Sales Taxes
Recreational Vehicle Tax
School Tax
State Income Tax
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
Telephone Federal Excise Tax
Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax
Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Tax
Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
Telephone Recurring and Non-recurring Charges Tax
Telephone State and Local Tax
Telephone Usage Charge Tax
Utility Tax
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Watercraft Registration Tax
Well Permit Tax
Workers Compensation Tax
Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago… and our nation was the most prosperous in the world.
We had absolutely no national debt…
We had the largest middle class in the world….
and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.
What happened?
Can you spell ‘politicians!’
And I still have to press “1″ for English.

Posted by: john | October 30, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm

Nothing could be more hysterically ironic than reading anti-Obama posts stating that those that are pro-Obama are the ones that are brainwashed. I read 5 negative comments, and not a single one of them had an intelligible argument or well-defined logic to back them up. Just pathetically unintelligent, thoughtless people blabbering on because their low self-esteem and abundant insecurities lead them to extreme jealousy of Obama for all of the success he’s endured – something not a single one of these anti-Obama people could do in a dozen lifetimes. I have been saying this since the beginning: Every single intelligent, respectable person I know, and this includes hundreds and hundreds of people, is going for Obama and when they explain why they use these beautiful things called “facts”, “logic” and “reasoning”. They aren’t pitifully manipulated and greatly influenced by anything and everything they hear, especially when it comes from people who graduated 894 out of 899 in their class (McCain).
Some people are leaders, most people are followers. Followers are manipulated and influenced easily and don’t have the capacity to think for themselves. As a result, when they hear the most absurdly fabricated lies such as “Obama’s a socialist” they really believe it – they don’t have the mental capacity or the IQ points to sit back and analyze that accusation for themselves. They’ll believe anything the disgusting, disgraceful McCain says because (a) they’re followers, and (b) they’re not intelligent enough to think for themselves. It’s so pathetic to see such a large amount of pitiful souls in this conutry so incredibly stupid; but remember, 28% of the population has “below average intelligence” – you can’t expect these people to think logically. They’ll always be stupid, and they’ll always be oblivious to it. Part of being stupid is that you don’t know you’re stupid; its not like they look in the mirror and say “Hey! Im Stupid!” They’ll just never know how dumb and inferior they are.

Posted by: Joey Lombardo | October 30, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm

Update America:
We like those Obama supporters’ quotes from the bible. They think Jesus says to spread the wealth.
Apart from salvation, there is perhaps a way that the concept “God helps those who help themselves” is correct. As an example, if you asked me to help you move a piece of furniture, but then just watched me as I moved the furniture for you, I was not actually helping you. I would be doing the work for you. Many Christians fall into the trap of inactivity. Many Christians ask God for help, but then expect God to do everything Himself. They excuse this by pointing to the fact that God will provide according to His will and in His timing. However, this is not a reason for inactivity. As a specific example, if you are in need of a job, ask the Lord to help you find a job – but then be active in actually looking for a job. While it is in His power to do so, it is highly unlikely that God will cause employers to come looking for you!
Christians fall into the trap of inactivity. Sounds like Obama supporters waiting to share the wealth.
Update America does not respond to any Obama supporters without credentials.

Posted by: Update America | October 30, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm

Take these two canidates and the campaines they have run. One has been dissaplined and focused and did what he thought was best instead of what his camp thought was best. Sure he would have a bad day here and there but he kept on track and went right back to his game plan and focus. The other has been all over the place with no real direction. He cant stay on one point with consistancy and is bouncing off the walls.Take the temperment of both. The salesmanship of both. The finacial management of both. Now tell me which you would rather have and who would do better running the White House. McCain was loosing until he brought in Palin and that brought him past Obama for a few weeks in the polls until she started getting interviewed and back the polls for McCain fell. One canidate brings mobs of people and the other brings in modest amounts of people unless Palin is there. Sounds to me that the best thing to happen to McCain was palin and that speaks a lot about McCain as to what kind of president he would be and how the White House and country would be run by his administration. I will take the other canidate Obama.

Posted by: CW | October 30, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm

People keep talking about Obama’s plan as being a redistribution of wealth, as though wealthier people are going to pay more and all of that money will go into welfare. That is pretty far from the truth. If you look at what our country is spending money on (see page 5 of this link to the US budget: http://www.gpoaccess.gov/usbudget/fy08/pdf/budget/tables.pdf) you can see that in 2007 and 2008 about half of our budget relates to defense. Other money is being spent on health and human services to develop flu vaccines each year and to study diseases, on veterans’ affairs, on the core of engineers to help with infostructure of dams, bridges, etc, on justice, on education, and energy. Although some money goes to things like medicaid or children’s social services, it is probably a lot less than many people think. A progressive tax (such as we already have) taxes the wealthiest at a higher rate than the poor not to “give their money to the poor” but rather because the country needs a certain amount of money to keep it functioning properly, and the wealthy are better equipped to help (the old John McCain admitted this himself a few years back). If the tax rates of the wealthy were brought down to meet the rates of the poor, the rates of the poor would also have to rise by a good deal to make up the difference. For the sake of ease, let’s say that the difference for each is 10%; which would more affect the ability of someone to survive, $1000 out of the income of someone making $10,000 per year or $10,000 out of the income of someone making $100,000 per year? Taxing the poor at lower rates not only is better for the lower income individuals, but also for the country as a whole. Rates that allow people to stay in their homes rather than be wandering the streets, and allow children to have the food they need to pay attention in school both will contribute to lower crime rates that we can all enjoy. I’m not pretending that we as a nation are not paying for some ridiculous add ons as well, and I hope that something is done about that in future years, but that is an issue separate from progressive taxes.

Posted by: all_names_r_taken | October 30, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm

Update America?!? BAHAHAHAAHHA MUAHUAHUAHAUAHAUH ROLFALMFLAMFO. Update America, nobody gives two flying doo-doo’s about your incompetent, small-minded perspective, especially when you’re laughably trying to use Bible quotes to try to make an argument that makes absolutely no sense in any respect, although I’m certain you’re oblivious to this.
In one post, you’ve exhibited an enormous amount of exceptionally unprecedented stupidity. Is it a coincidence that you are also anti-Obama? Uh, no. Stupid people, by definition, have trouble using logic to make a correlation between different elements. You are a perfect example of this “UPDATE AMERICA” (HAHAHAHA) – oh, no!! HE WONT RESPOND TO ME BECAUSE I DONT HAVE CREDENTIALS!!!
Yea, you’ve got it all figured out. There’s no such thing as evolution – the world was magically created, along with the millions of organisms, substances, fossils, mountains, in 4004 B.C. right? Dinosaur bones are all just a hoax, aren’t they, Mister Religious Man?

Posted by: Joey Lombardo | October 30, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm

– We like those Obama supporters’ quotes from the bible. They think Jesus says to spread the wealth. –
In case you missed it, jesus isn’t on the ballot.. and what he has to say is irrelevant.

Posted by: Concerned American | October 30, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm

Michelle Angelique: I alwayf felt the same way, however I did not really deconstruct the issue as clearly as you have. Kudos to you

Posted by: Euclid | October 30, 2008, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm

Helen E Jones-Kelly a black democrat is going after Joe the plumber. Are blacks so racists that they are punishing Joe the plumber. This is completely unAmerica.
This woman has donated the maximum amount to the Obama campaign. Is she an Obama zealot. Are black racist allowed to use their office to terrorize decent citizens.

Posted by: Demsnever | October 30, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm

– Yea, you’ve got it all figured out. There’s no such thing as evolution – the world was magically created, –
No, no no.. you have it all wrong.. since the religious zealots were legally banned from teaching creationism in school, they came up with ‘intelligent design’ as a wrapper to make it sound somewhat scientific.. you know, irreducible complexity and all those other big words to make it sound oh so scientific to those who have no clue. Of course, it still depended on the big hand in the sky, but we should overlook that part of the ‘theory’ because that part doesn’t really fit into scientific theory or can be reproduced or verified. Unfortunately, once it was introduced into any scientific body for analysis, it fell apart and crumbled like the dried up cow pie it was. But of course, we are supposed to ignore that part as well :)

Posted by: Concerned American | October 30, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm

Has amyone seen how much this infomercial cost??

Posted by: amazed801 | October 30, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm

It is going to be an up hill struggle for any canidate that is elected. If we really love America we all have to come together and pull this country out of the hole that it is in. It wasn’t enought to give wall street a 700 billion bailout. But, George Bush is continuing to cause havoc around the world before he leave ofice. Thanks a lot to GOP.

Posted by: Maggie | October 30, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm

Forget the polls. IT’S GOING TO BE A LANSLIDE. OBAMA/BIDEN O8
Polls don’t include new registers.
Just look as Colorado turn Blue.
100,000 showed up in Colo. to hear Obama and only 4500 to hear McCain. That tells the true story.

Posted by: fatladysinging | October 30, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm

– Are black racist allowed to use their office to terrorize decent citizens. –
Well, apparently it’s just fine when a white woman does it in Alaska.. you betcha!

Posted by: Concerned American | October 30, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm

Hey JOHN.. I got that stupid Billion dollar email too. How smart you are for figuring out how to copy and paste.
What you fail to realize is that without taxes, you wouldn’t have a road to drive on. Without taxes, our telephone lines wouldn’t be built so you could be on the internet. Without taxes, our children were barely getting a 6th grade education. Without social security, our elderly faced harsh poverty. on and on and on….

Posted by: BIRD | October 30, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm

– Has amyone seen how much this infomercial cost?? –
Why? Do they need some more cash? I’ll send another check tomorrow.. and maybe go by and purchase some more Obama t-shirts along the way.

Posted by: Concerned American | October 30, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm

Obama claims that 95% of America will be getting a tax cut, so that means that the other 5% will get higher taxes because they earn over $250K…right???
But according to the census bureau:
Families that earn 100K to 149K represent 10% of the population
Families that earn 150K to 199K represent 3% of the population
Families that earn 200K to 249K represent 1% of the population
Families that earn 250K and up represent 1% of the population
So if Obama is “only” going to raise taxes on the highest 5%.of Americans…that means PEOPLE EARNING AS LOW AS $150K will BE TAXED HIGHER…..Obama is lying…HE WILL TAX ANYONE earning $150K NOT JUST $250K like he says.
If he lies about this…what else is he lying about?
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income_in_the_United_States

Posted by: MikeFromNJ | October 30, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm

my 13 year old daughter was moved to tears with the hope that our country will be restored.
Posted by: moosedog | Oct 30, 2008 5:50:11 PM
====
Does she understand to what he is “restoring” it?
Blindness caused 8 years of disaster under Bush. Now, you learned nothing.
Posted by: skinny dog | Oct 30, 2008 5:53:57 PM
——————————–
To the American Dream. Obviously. what did you think? To the Russian Dream? Hey, wake up. This is a capitalist, democratic society. Okay? Obama is tinkering with the engine. He is not rebuilding it.
He is pressing the grow the pie lever, by prudently managing taxes so that the majority (95%) of the American taxpayers are going to see reduced taxes. That ain’t socialism my friend, that is pure economics 101. If you don’t understand that, well that is your problem.
This person’s 13 year old gets it – says a lot about you eh?

Posted by: PaulStewart9 | October 30, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm

No seriously -I just remember hearing how much a minute advertisement cost during the Super Bowl so I can’t imagine how much money was spent on this infomercial.

Posted by: amazed801 | October 30, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm

– But according to the census bureau: –
Census bureau is inaccurate when reporting incomes, and is based on individuals reporting their own status, which do not always reflect reality.
For accuracy, please refer to the IRS tax data at:
http://www.irs.gov/taxstats/index.html
Where you will notice that those reporting $250K or more represents somewhere around 4.76% of family incomes. We are being nice and rounding it to 5% for clarity sake :)

Posted by: Concerned American | October 30, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm

If I promised to give you a million dollars tomorrow if you give me a $100 today…would you do it?
You would say NO. WHY would you say NO? Because you don’t KNOW ME.
Even if I PROMISED YOU and crossed my heart…you wouldn’t give me your $100. WHY?
Because you DON’T know me and plus I’m “just” using words…ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS…yes?
Then WHY is everyone believing what Obama SAYS? He is JUST USING WORDS. He is just a politician promising you the million dollars that I promised.
AND people DON”T know Obama. LOOK at his record! He says he won’t raise taxes, yet he has voted FOR raising them on the Middle Class. He says he’ll take public financing, then doesn’t. He says he doesn’t associate with this person or that person and then we discover he lied. Why do people believe a POLITICIAN that lies?
http://www.meetbarackobama.com/
Remember, actions speak louder than words.

Posted by: MIke | October 30, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm

Why is it that only white people are at McCain and Palin rallies? Why no blacks, Asian, Latino, Native America, Mid-Eastern, etc? Do they only allow whites?

Posted by: rhbate | October 30, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm

One good way our tax dollars are being spent: research to help prevent, properly diagnose, and treat diseases and disorders such as Alzheimer’s disease, autism, diabetes, and cancer. Scientific research is expensive and nearly all of the money for equipment and salaries are paid through the National Institutes of Health. Although there are some private foundations that provide funding, they do not provide nearly enough to pay for what needs to be done. A freeze on spending, such as what Senator McCain proposes, will make it extremely difficult for this work to get done.

Posted by: all_names_r_taken | October 30, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm

RHBate—wow are you playing the race card??

Posted by: amazed801 | October 30, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm

CNN’s Campbell Brown sounded off on Sen. Barack Obama’s unprecedented amount of campaign money.
—You may have heard that Wednesday night Barack Obama will be on five different TV networks speaking directly to the American people.
He bought 30 minutes of airtime from the different networks, a very expensive purchase. But hey, he can afford it. Barack Obama is loaded, way more loaded than John McCain, way more loaded than any presidential candidate has ever been at this stage of the campaign.
Just to throw a number out: He has raised well over $600 million since the start of his campaign, close to what George Bush and John Kerry raised combined in 2004.
Without question, Obama has set the bar at new height with a truly staggering sum of cash. And that is why as we approach this November, it is worth reminding ourselves what Barack Obama said last November.
One year ago, he made a PROMISE. He pledged to accept public financing and to work with the Republican nominee to ensure that they both operated within those LIMITS.—
We can all rest assured, however, that if a Republican candidate had explicitly promised to take public financing only to change his mind once he had gotten the nomination, then went on to raise more than $600 million dollars, roughly two thirds of which has been raised through fraud-enabling practices (credit card fraud), and outspent his opponent by three-to-one on TV, that’d be cool, too. Right? What, no?
In Palm Beach, Florida, today Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., attacked Sen. Barack Obama’s pending 30-minute prime-time address as a “gauzy, feel-good commercial,” that was “paid for with broken promises.”

Posted by: CNN Finally! Calls Out Obama on Breaking Campaign Finance Promise | October 30, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm

Concerned American- You ostensibly do not have the least bit of an education, but just like all the other pitifully dumb anti-evolution zealots, you’ll argue that you have one and you know all about science. Your utter lack of intelligence is blatantly intimidated by these “big scientific words” that you speak of. You simply cannot understand and comprehend how this works. The only thing that makes sense in your low-IQ brain is if this “hand from above” had something to do with it. Stupid people, by definition, have great difficulty in using logic to make a correlation. You couldn’t be a more perfect example. Science has been proven beyond your wildest dreams. Religion has never been proven nor will it ever be – at best, it’s a fantasy story on the same level as Harry Potter or Lord of the Rings. To believe what you read in the bible to be true above everything else makes you sadly pitiful.
A story about Noah’s Ark, where a 900-year-old man and his 500-year-old son take every single species of every single organism in the entire planet (over 72 million species) in just a couple days makes perfect sense, doesn’t it?!? Oh, I’m sorry – they took a male and female of each, so that’s 144 million species, and they put them all on that “boat” in 260,000 seconds. 144 million species in 260,000 seconds? So they moved roughly 553 animals PER SECOND onto that boat! Wow! Of course, that’s much more logical and realistic than science, right?!? The world was all of a sudden magically created in 4004 BC, right? The millions of pieces of evidence that prove that things were going on way before 4004 BC can’t be accurate because the bible didn’t say that, right?! Of course! Perhaps one day you’ll attain an education and leave the fantasy to your preschool children.

Posted by: Joey Lombardo | October 30, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm

RHBate—wow are you playing the race card??
Posted by: amazed801 | Oct 30, 2008 8:58:41 PM
___________________
When is asking a question playing the race card? Instead of attacking me, why don’t you try answering the question.

Posted by: rhbate | October 30, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm

Concerned American- You ostensibly do not have the least bit of an education, but just like all the other pitifully dumb anti-evolution zealots, you’ll argue that you have one and you know all about science. Your utter lack of intelligence is blatantly intimidated by these “big scientific words” that you speak of. You simply cannot understand and comprehend how this works. The only thing that makes sense in your low-IQ brain is if this “hand from above” had something to do with it. Stupid people, by definition, have great difficulty in using logic to make a correlation. You couldn’t be a more perfect example. Science has been proven beyond your wildest dreams. Religion has never been proven nor will it ever be – at best, it’s a fantasy story on the same level as Harry Potter or Lord of the Rings. To believe what you read in the bible to be true above everything else makes you sadly pitiful.
A story about Noah’s Ark, where a 900-year-old man and his 500-year-old son take every single species of every single organism in the entire planet (over 72 million species) in just a couple days makes perfect sense, doesn’t it?!? Oh, I’m sorry – they took a male and female of each, so that’s 144 million species, and they put them all on that “boat” in 260,000 seconds. 144 million species in 260,000 seconds? So they moved roughly 553 animals PER SECOND onto that boat! Wow! Of course, that’s much more logical and realistic than science, right?!? The world was all of a sudden magically created in 4004 BC, right? The millions of pieces of evidence that prove that things were going on way before 4004 BC can’t be accurate because the bible didn’t say that, right?! Of course! Perhaps one day you’ll attain an education and leave the fantasy to your preschool children.

Posted by: Joey Lombardo | October 30, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm

Nothing could be more hysterically ironic than reading anti-Obama posts stating that those that are pro-Obama are the ones that are brainwashed. I read 5 negative comments, and not a single one of them had an intelligible argument or well-defined logic to back them up. Just pathetically unintelligent, thoughtless people blabbering on because their low self-esteem and abundant insecurities lead them to extreme jealousy of Obama for all of the success he’s endured – something not a single one of these anti-Obama people could do in a dozen lifetimes. I have been saying this since the beginning: Every single intelligent, respectable person I know, and this includes hundreds and hundreds of people, is going for Obama and when they explain why they use these beautiful things called “facts”, “logic” and “reasoning”. They aren’t pitifully manipulated and greatly influenced by anything and everything they hear, especially when it comes from people who graduated 894 out of 899 in their class (McCain).
Some people are leaders, most people are followers. Followers are manipulated and influenced easily and don’t have the capacity to think for themselves. As a result, when they hear the most absurdly fabricated lies such as “Obama’s a socialist” they really believe it – they don’t have the mental capacity or the IQ points to sit back and analyze that accusation for themselves. They’ll believe anything the disgusting, disgraceful McCain says because (a) they’re followers, and (b) they’re not intelligent enough to think for themselves. It’s so pathetic to see such a large amount of pitiful souls in this conutry so incredibly stupid; but remember, 28% of the population has “below average intelligence” – you can’t expect these people to think logically. They’ll always be stupid, and they’ll always be oblivious to it. Part of being stupid is that you don’t know you’re stupid; its not like they look in the mirror and say “Hey! Im Stupid!” They’ll just never know how dumb and inferior they are.

Posted by: Joey Lombardo | October 30, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm

As Americans, we ALL agree that politicians LIE, CHEAT AND STEAL and will do anything to win their next election.
Yet people accept every pledge/speech made by Obama like it is truth and will happen…not that McCain is much better…I mean they are BOTH POLITICIANS.
But when you look at Obama’s record…he has NEVER delivered what he has promised either in the state legislature or the Senate…yet people believe every word. People don’t put faith in a “God”, but they put faith into Obama even though proof of his failures is abundant.
Now, I’m not saying McCain is much better…but the excitement over Obama is so weird because its based off of just some guy who can make a GOOD SPEECH.
I also find it weird when Obama supporters can’t explain Obama’s platform…except the words “change” and “tax cuts”. Why do people vote for a person that they know nothing about??
Obama claims he will give everyone a tax cut…yet in the last year he voted twice to raise taxes.
This example and many others is what I find confusing. Obama talks great things, but when you look at his record…it tells a different story.

Posted by: Scott | October 30, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm

Many of you right wing bloggers talking about “Socialism” really need to pay attention. Bush gave us the biggest expansion of government in US history. Bush gave us the biggest deficit in US history. Bush gave us the biggest loss of civil liberties in US history. Bush is nationalizing US banks. A communist move.
And while McCain is not physically Bush, they are two separate people, they are not much different. Indeed McCain is more of the same, only more so. Its obvious to me that you all wouldn’t know a socialist if he were slapping you in the face.
The right wing commentary will just get more and more ideological and indeed hysterical. It will continue to try to paint Obama what he is not. It will continue to try to destroy his character. That is their only hope. It is not going to work.

Posted by: PaulStewart9 | October 30, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm

To those who spouting Socialist. Well, if Obama is a socialist, then McCain and Bush are bush-wacking Pirates, dressed in business suits. In league with those running some of the the large businesses these days with “golden parachutes”, with special note of the oil companies, car companies and the investment banks. All of them crying “deregulation, deregulation”, “self regulation, self regulation”, “limits to liability”, “limits to liability”, etc….
The American people are starting to tune out the Republican Party. And rightly so. I think the reason is obvious – America as a Nation trumps the Republican Party. Many are starting to see through the Republican facade. William Buckley Jr. gets it, Colin Powell really gets it, but the Party Leaders and demagogues do not – especially people like Rush, Bush, Bachmann and and de Rothschild. The Party is so imbued in its own Propaganda, in its own sense of Superiority and Self Righteousness, that it has indeed lost its way.
The Republican Party has something of a Maoist sentiment of being the ruling Party and the Ruling Class. In spite of the dissent of most of the Nation. Real Republicans need to seize the levers of the Party, tear it down and rebuild from the grass roots up. Its ownership is too centered in selfish ideological hands and its philosophy has gone Piratical; way too right wing. I think it is way out of the mainstream. For so long it has been there, and held its ground by moving the mainstream and demonizing the left. No more.

Posted by: PaulStewart9 | October 30, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm

Why is it that only white people are at McCain and Palin rallies? Why no blacks, Asian, Latino, Native America, Mid-Eastern, etc? Do they only allow whites?
Posted by: rhbate | Oct 30, 2008 8:54:52 PM

Posted by: rhbate | October 30, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm

As a liberal supporting Obama, I woujld like to see taxes cut as well. But first we have to reduce spending. And our greatest increases in spending in recent decades have occurred under Republican administrations.

Posted by: bugg | October 30, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm

I believe that Republicans do not have a lock on conservatism – indeed, Obama is a true pragmatist and he knows that you need to be fiscally conservative to be more socially liberal. Otherwise it does not add up. He is not really a liberal. Obama and the Democrats also understand you can’t let the Foxes run the Hen Houses, and certainly not under self policing policies. And certainly not with limits on liability if they eat all the Hens and can’t replace them when caught.
Republicans today do not understand the concept of collective. This is mostly because they are the ones that are benefiting from the Caveman’s survival of the fittest ideas and the “ownership” society. They have the money and the power and they view and work politics to maintain it. They feel entitled and they pay lip service to social policies while generally demonizing them as being something unAmerican. When, indeed America needs to shift away from the extreme right wing to a more common sense approach.

Posted by: PaulStewart9 | October 30, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm

Brenda,
Here is a link to Senator Obama’s birth certificate. He was born in Hawaii and is therefore a natural born US citizen.
http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate

Posted by: all_names_r_taken | October 30, 2008, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm

Some of the Repubs here sound so depressive. Jeez. Cheer up a little, people. We’ve had 8 disastrous years of your guy, and we’re still here, ready to face another day.
Maybe it won’t be so bad. You don’t know how it’s going to go if Obama wins. And try a little humility please. If you voted for G.W. Bush, at least admit that you don’t have a perfect record of choosing winners.
It won’t be as bad as you think. Heck, maybe it will be great. You’d be a lot happier (and nicer to be around) if you could try to cheer up and get a little hope.

Posted by: Carl | October 30, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm

Republican Party leaders and their rich backers want to keep giving the mainstream masses a wind up toy. A Bush, a Palin, a McCain or any Barbie or Ken will do. Just dress ‘em up and get ‘em talkin’ just like ole “Joe Six Pack” and “Joe the Plumber” whoever that is. Its sure not you or me. Let them think their leaders are just like you. This has kept the masses happy, while Republicans and cronies eat the Hens.
Of course, when the Hens are noticed missing, it will be someone else’ fault. Probably the Democrats somehow, it does not matter how, or someone in Iraq. No wait, it might be Putin, or possibly its Castro, no wait he’s almost dead, okay then, Chavez …… Or maybe that Muslim Arab Socialist African Malaysian Hawaiian and UnAmerican Obama…… And so the tomfoolery goes……..

Posted by: PaulStewart9 | October 30, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm

Liberals are not socialists. The latter is a word sullied by dictators and megalomaniacs. Theirs’ is a false concept of socialism, used for selfish gain and to keep the masses poor and in chains. As McCain has said – strong backs, or the backbone of America is that American laborer. A back strong enough to carry the malarkey called Republican Conservatism or, I think, Piratical Conservative is more fitting.
There is no stronger Nation than one with a well run economic engine. One that is fairly and sensibly regulated. One that shares the wealth equitably. One that is built on morally sound incentive systems for its operators. One with a collective advancement and support system for all its members.
Republicans as much or more than any others will tell you that you don’t send into battle men without protection and weapons. You don’t send men that are unskilled and untrained in the use of weapons. You don’t win battles by leaving your compatriots unprotected. And you don’t leave the weak and wounded behind. Their rescue is the mark of heroes. If its heroic in the battlefields of war, why not so in the battlefields of life?
America is indeed headed for a brighter future with Obama than with McCain.

Posted by: PaulStewart9 | October 30, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm

If voting for Obama means I can get healthcare and the rich can only afford 3 cars instead of 4… I’ll take it.

Posted by: Amanda | October 30, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm

RHBATE—Ok, but only if you answer this one first–why are 95% of blacks voting for Obama??

Posted by: amazed801 | October 30, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm

What a bunch of nonsense to claim no one but whites go to Palin and McCain rallies. Have you not heard of Tito or seen the commercials…I by the way have been to a rally and I am native American. Hello. The question you should be asking is why are the Obamabots a bunch of racist fascists?

Posted by: chattyway | October 30, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm

PaulStewart,
You are correct. Republicans are more socially conservative than Democrats. But the Democratic party is probably more fiscally conservative than the GOP.
That it because the GOP is controlled by spend-crazy neo-conservatives instead of conservatives.

Posted by: bugg | October 30, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm

– LOOK at his record! –
We have silly, that’s one of the reasons we are voting for him.
– He says he won’t raise taxes, yet he has voted FOR raising them on the Middle Class. –
He voted on a bill that among other things let existing tax cuts expire.. careful how you twist facts.
– He says he’ll take public financing, then doesn’t. –
Of course not.. once he saw the huge grassroots support within the US and the World, and realizing that due to his color and background he would be facing a huge hurdle, just like he has his whole life, that it would be to his benefit. But hey, what are you complaining about? He isn’t spending tax payer money on his campaign like McCain is.. I gave.. did you?
– He says he doesn’t associate with this person or that person and then we discover he lied. –
Nowhere has he lied.. just more GOP tricks taking sound bites out of context and trying to twist them into something far from reality. He has been open and honest about his relationships in the past, and has publicly denounced actions taken by those individuals in the past where appropriate.
Perfect case in point, Ayers; In the debate against Clinton, when asked about him, the GOP would have you believe that he simply said “he is a guy who lives in my neighborhood”, which is wildly inaccurate. George asked him about Ayers, and his meeting with him in his living room, to which Obama responded:
“OBAMA: George, but this is an example of what I’m talking about. This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who’s a professor of English in Chicago who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He’s not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis.
And the notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8 years old, somehow reflects on me and my values doesn’t make much sense, George.
The fact is that I’m also friendly with Tom Coburn, one of the most conservative Republicans in the United States Senate, who, during his campaign, once said that it might be appropriate to apply the death penalty to those who carried out abortions.
Do I need to apologize for Mr. Coburn’s statements? Because I certainly don’t agree with those, either.
So this kind of game in which anybody who I know, regardless of how flimsy the relationship is, that somehow their ideas could be attributed to me, I think the American people are smarter than that. They’re not going to suggest somehow that that is reflective of my views, because it obviously isn’t.”
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/DemocraticDebate/story?id=4670271
Simply more of McCain and Co. taking out of context statements and blowing them up to sound if there is some kind of conspiracy going on behind the backs of Americans. Of course many would say “well there was more”, but who cares? It would not have been appropriate for him to go down and list ever single instance.. and even if he had, people would still not believe him and say there must be more.
– Why do people believe a POLITICIAN that lies? –
If you want to look for a politician who has been lying consistently over and over again since the beginning of this campaign, then look no further than John McCain and Sarah Palin.. so much so, that TIME magazine has this to say about him;
“McCain’s lies have ranged from the annoying to the sleazy, and the problem is in both degree and kind. His campaign has been a ceaseless assault on his opponent’s character and policies, featuring a consistent—and witting—disdain for the truth. Even after 38 million Americans heard Obama say in his speech at the Democratic National Convention that he was open to offshore oil-drilling and building new nuclear-power plants, McCain flatly said in his acceptance speech that Obama opposed both. Normal political practice would be for McCain to say, “Obama says he’s ‘open to’ offshore drilling, but he’s always opposed it. How can we believe him?” This persistence in repeating demonstrably false charges is something new in presidential politics.”
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1842030,00.html
Notice the last sentence of that statement. Amazing, isn’t it.

Posted by: Concerned American | October 30, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm

Umm…Bugg have you even read your candidates position———–he is not planning on cutting spending unless you count killing off the military which I am sure Obama’s terrorists friends will love and have pushed Obama for. Obama is pushing for the largest government spending bill ever……..and yet none of his supporters are smart enough to figure out how he will get the money for it (In case you don’t know, he plans on jacking up taxes for the entire working class just all like all marxist do.) This is why over a 100 economists have come out in protest of Obama.

Posted by: chattyway | October 30, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm

RHBATE–Did they get the message from someone???—
Well, I didn’t think it would be Rick Davis, but I’m glad somebody finally had the courage to bring to an end a tactic that has rankled rank-and-file Democrats who have been saying ‘no deal’ to Obama since January: his campaign’s constant, vile abuse of the race card to silence those who see through him:
From Obama’s loudmouth, dad-bashing campaign co-chair Jesse Jackson, Jr. claiming Hillary was insensitive to Katrina victims, to the now infamous ‘leaked’ memo claiming the Clintons and all around them were racist;
From the contrived overreaction to Bill Clinton’s observations that Obama’s Iraq war opposition was a “fairy tale” to similar fake outrage when Mr. Clinton compared Obama’s South Carolina primary win to Jesse Jackson’s;
From the Obama campaign’s pretending to be postracial in public while threatening black superdelegates in private to Obama waiting until black voters vaulted him to the nomination before bashing black fathers with lame stereotypes, the Obama campaign at every turn has sought to use racial politics as a bludgeon, beating the opposition into submission.
In the process, they have set race relations in America back immeasurably, splitting the Democratic party and demonizing Democratic icons in the process.

Posted by: amazed801 | October 30, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm

Jesse is sharpening his hedge clippers.

Posted by: Hippie Smasher | October 30, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm

Chattway,
Despite your hyperbole, I will address one point.
I don’t expect any politicain to cut spending. But some increase it more than do others. Republicans are the ones of record that increase spending the most.

Posted by: bugg | October 30, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm

– Ok, but only if you answer this one first–why are 95% of blacks voting for Obama?? –
In case you missed it in past elections, blacks historically vote Democratic. Currently, gallup polls have it as 91% for Obama. In 2004, blacks voted 88% for Kerry. Claiming that there are racial reasons may be true for a very small percentage, but claiming it is the only reason is just ignorant.
http://www.gallup.com/

Posted by: Concerned American | October 30, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm

RHBATE—Ok, but only if you answer this one first–why are 95% of blacks voting for Obama??
Posted by: amazed801 | Oct 30, 2008 9:08:31 PM
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Nearly 90% of them voted for Gore and for Kerry. Don’t you know that? It is not a racist thing. Well maybe the 5% difference eh?

Posted by: PaulStewart9 | October 30, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm

If it was Giuliani, Bush, McCain or any other that opted out of campaign financing to go on and raise more money by far and from the grass roots, they would be heralded as heroes. As brilliant. Why is it with Obama that McCain is saying it must be suspect? Is it because Obama is an African American? What gives here…..
I say Obama was brilliant in opting out. It was a huge gamble, it was a maverick move……… and it succeeded brilliantly.

Posted by: PaulStewart9 | October 30, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm

Concerned American,
Did 0bama feed you more dirts in the afternoon?
So twisted, so deceptive, so blind.
Dangerous.

Posted by: skinny dog | October 30, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm

Joey Lombardo, I think Concerned American is actually on your side agreeing that evolution is more sound than creationism. Seems as though some sarcasm was at work there in his/her post.

Posted by: all_names_r_taken | October 30, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm

Obama saved the taxpayers $85 million by opting out of public financing. He went the capitalist way of raising the money himself for his own campaign. Brilliant.

Posted by: PaulStewart9 | October 30, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm

These are some of the most lame yet bigoted posts I’ve read in a while. I wonder if most of these are coming from real people or the paid Republican hacks out there? Either way, it’s really pathetic.

Posted by: Time to take your meds | October 30, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm

Joey Lombardo, I think Concerned American is actually on your side agreeing that evolution is more sound than creationism. Seems as though some sarcasm was at work there in his/her post.

Posted by: all_names_r_taken | October 30, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm

PaulStewart, nice posts, very informative and articulate. Keep fighting the good fight!

Posted by: LCB | October 30, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm

First off just let me say that this is history in the making. Obama is a man of leadership and spirit. At first I was for Mcain but after hearing all the debates and to both parties, I made up my mind. Mcain started running out of things to say and his temper started to flare and then came the name calling. We don’t need a disorganized three year old in the White House. Mcain has never said anything about our economy that is going to help middle class families, only small businesses. What about the people who work for these businesses? The people who have families to feed too? Never heard a word on that out of Mcains mouth. So basically the people who are wealthy are going to continue sipping their wine while the rest of us struggle to make ends meet. Ummmm….what’s wrong with that picture? Hello the economy is built from the bottom up, DUH!!! You can have all these small businesses and huge companies but what’s the use if no one can afford to buy anything? That’s why businesses are closing their doors and laying people off because they are not making enough business. Obama’s infomercial just brought me to tears. I am 27 years old and was a single mother during my 3 1/2 years in college. I struggled to pay my mortgage, electricity, propane, ect… I worked graveyard and went to school full time and had to make ends meet off $5.75/hr and my student loans. There were times when i couldn’t even afford to buy much groceries. During the winter months I had to apply for LIHEAP to help pay my propane bill which was about $250 every month. This program helped me once a year and the rest was up to me. There was a time where i couldn’t afford it and me and my daughter had to use about 10 blankets and an electric heater to keep us warm at night. Well Mcain voted against funding LIHEAP. Hmmmm…go figure. I finally got my degree and thought becoming a registered nurse, i would be free and clear of struggle. But now the way the economy is, I’m still stuggling. They take out soooo much taxes from my check and i find myself back at square one. Working at a university hospital, I see healthcare from a different perspective. I take care of mostly elderly people. This last week I met an elderly couple. The woman could hardly talk and the husband was retired from the Navy. The wife was very ill. But the husband was always there by her side to help her eat and make sure she was okay. He was so protective of her, of course because he loved her. I will never forget the talk we had. He told me about their life together and how he retired from the military. And how now that they were growing older it was getting harder for them to make it with all their medical bills and medications. This man did his time serving and protecting the U.S. and this is how we pay him back, letting him struggle. It made my eyes water. I could go on and on about the situations i’ve seen but i think i have made my point. Obama hit the nail right on the head and what we need is a president who can understand and look out for everyone, even the small people. Obama is an inspiration to all Americans. He still stands strong even after all of Mcains nasty three year old comments. Socialist, redistributer…HA! Maybe Mcain should stop talking about what’s wrong with Joe the Plumbers situation and start talking about EVERYONE elses situation. So if you haven’t voted yet please do so and think of YOUR living situation now and 30 years from now..I voted for OBAMA!
Monica The Nurse
(LOL)

Posted by: Monica | October 30, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm

Where did Obama get that kind of cash? CBS News investigative correspondent Sharyl Attkisson Follows the Money.—–
Early on, both Sens. Barack Obama and John McCain promised to limit their fundraising – but Obama reversed that pledge when he won his party’s nomination.
Now he ranks as the greatest political fundraiser of all time: More than $603 million, compared to $358 million for McCain.
Obama’s broken another record: he’s gotten more money than anyone in history from unidentified donors – with names like “Doodad,” who lists his employer as “Loving” and has given more than $17,000 dollars – way over federal limits.

Posted by: amazed801 | October 30, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm

Bugg, unfortunately it is no exaggeration. Over 100 economists have written in protest of Obama lies of economic plan—which will surely kill the US economy. Atleast one is a Nobel prize winner. And again, Obama wants the biggest the government spending ever instituted…EVER with no equals. And of course, none of his dingy supporters have clue where the money will be coming from…
As history shows marxist often claim they are only going to take from the rich, but always work their way down to the entire working class while killing off the economy along the way. Just like at Chavez and Venzuela and look how even the Middle Class had to flee Vezuela has Chavez seized everyone’s assets and killed jobs. We are next if people don’t brighten up, and stop Obama from stealing the election.

Posted by: chattyway | October 30, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm

CBS–ATKINNSON–FOLLOW THE MONEY
“Obama’s corporate donor list looks like a Who’s Who of the Wall Street collapse – except some have given more to Obama. Lots more.
“The Obama campaign has just vacuumed up the money in this cycle, specifically from Goldman Sachs, Obama has received over $740,000, as opposed to McCain’s $220,000,” Krumholz said.
Not to mention that the former head of Goldman Sachs, Robert Rubin, is Obama’s chief economic advisor – and two current executives are bundling for him (David Heller and Bruce Heyman). “Bundlers” are mega-fundraisers who, critics say, get special access.
Another big Obama bundler is Citicorp’s Michael Froman. Obama’s even tapped him to help put together his new administration.
Obama has tripled McCain’s haul from Lehman Brothers interests.
Citigroup, Morgan Stanley and JP Morgan Chase? More, more and lots more to Obama.

Posted by: amazed801 | October 30, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm

amazed801,
On the very day when Joe Biden announced his candidacy for the President, he was accused of a racist, for the freeking God sake of praising the race-baiting, Zero-record, Liar.

Posted by: skinny dog | October 30, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm

Obama has muslim terrorists and socialist around the world wanting him to take over and corrupt the US–she he opted for public funds so they could buy him the election illegally and he could hide much of the illegal activity. He has been snagged often taking illegal funds from overseas and terrorists.

Posted by: chattyway | October 30, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm

Chattyway,
Your incessant name calling (marxists, terrorists, dingy supporters) destroy what little credibility you ever had.

Posted by: bugg | October 30, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm

Does the oil in Alaska belong to all Americans or just to the people of Alaska ?

Posted by: beware of the New World Order | October 30, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm

– he is not planning on cutting spending unless you count killing off the military which I am sure Obama’s terrorists friends will love and have pushed Obama for. –
Most people except the neocons would like to see defense spending cut, particularly those large no-bid contracts going out to Cheney and friends. The world has changed, and tactics to deal with terrorists need to change as well. In case you missed it, military force rarely works when dealing with terrorists.. as pointed out in the Iraq Study Group, and again reinforced by the analysis of over 600 terrorist groups over the last 40 or so years:
http://www.rand.org/pubs/testimonies/CT314/index.html
– Obama is pushing for the largest government spending bill ever –
Again, in case you missed it, the tax policy center analysis shows that McCains spending plan would result in almost twice the increase of national debt that Obama would.. and when you throw in McCains ‘high rish’ insurance pool which was not included in that analysis, you can tack on another $1 trillion.. and he still has absolutely no way to increase revenue like Obama does.. he will just continue cutting taxes and spending like Bush, just a little dumber and older.

Posted by: Concerned American | October 30, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm

Obama’s broken another record: he’s gotten more money than anyone in history from unidentified donors – with names like “Doodad,” who lists his employer as “Loving” and has given more than $17,000 dollars – way over federal limits.
Posted by: amazed801 | Oct 30, 2008 9:24:20 PM
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Yet, he won’t use that money, but yours, your hard-earn taxed dollars to buy votes, promising to give you $1000 dollars if you vote for him.

Posted by: skinny dog | October 30, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm

RHBATE—Ok, but only if you answer this one first–why are 95% of blacks voting for Obama??
Posted by: amazed801 | Oct 30, 2008 9:08:31 PM
because this is the first the person running looks somewhat like a black…black get the first attempt on the house..over 200 years of free labor affords black people the right to vote black…besides Obama is the right choice

Posted by: beware of the New World Order | October 30, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm

You 0bama, our Dearest Leader, haters, can you take a rest, letting our greatest comrade not do what he promised to do.
He promised to vote against and even filabuster the FISA bill at time when he needed your votes.
He broke his promise to vote for the FISA bill to give Bush the power to spy on you, taking your constitutional right away.
Hillary Clinton, AS PROMISED, voted against the FISA bill. So, did John McCain.

Posted by: skinny dog | October 30, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm

To all the rabid liars and spreaders of McCain’s disinformation:
Your job will soon be over. So relax and have a drink. There is virtually no one who is now undecided. McCain can slink away and hope the voters of Arizona have not noticed just how vile he is.

Posted by: bugg | October 30, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm

Does the oil in Alaska belong to all Americans or just to the people of Alaska ?

Posted by: beware of the New World Order | October 30, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm

PaulStewart,
You are correct. Republicans are more socially conservative than Democrats. But the Democratic party is probably more fiscally conservative than the GOP.
That it because the GOP is controlled by spend-crazy neo-conservatives instead of conservatives.
Posted by: bugg | Oct 30, 2008 9:11:31 P
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Agree. And also, I believe strongly that Obama is a fiscal conservative. He knows that to be more liberal socially you need to be more conservative fiscally. You have to grow the pie. Then it can be shared in a way that is not socialist, but more liberal. That more liberal is just about helping people with some extremely important things that all Americans deserve a right to – affordable health care, jobs, education, food on the table, social security that works when you are old. I don’t mean hand outs, free jobs, or the like as some will argue. Just an economy where there are jobs out there, a system where education is a critical priority in the economy (it is an absolute must for America to lead in education in the world). No one should be faced with being left out of health care. Especially for life threatening issues. I mean, the conservatives are big on the divisive issue of when or when not to abort. What about applying some of that self righteousness to the people that are already here living too? I mean, don’t they count as much as the fetus?
The system has to support the American Dream – meaning the dream has to actually be achievable by those that through hard work and self development are willing to do what it takes…
A bit long winded in agreeing, but, Obama in short gets it that you need to understand and work the economic levers in a way that is progressive to the entire people. That is a conservative idea that he fundamentally appreciates and indeed will apply well….

Posted by: PaulStewart9 | October 30, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm

PaulStewart,
You are correct. Republicans are more socially conservative than Democrats. But the Democratic party is probably more fiscally conservative than the GOP.
That it because the GOP is controlled by spend-crazy neo-conservatives instead of conservatives.
Posted by: bugg | Oct 30, 2008 9:11:31 P
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Agree. And also, I believe strongly that Obama is a fiscal conservative. He knows that to be more liberal socially you need to be more conservative fiscally. You have to grow the pie. Then it can be shared in a way that is not socialist, but more liberal. That more liberal is just about helping people with some extremely important things that all Americans deserve a right to – affordable health care, jobs, education, food on the table, social security that works when you are old. I don’t mean hand outs, free jobs, or the like as some will argue. Just an economy where there are jobs out there, a system where education is a critical priority in the economy (it is an absolute must for America to lead in education in the world). No one should be faced with being left out of health care. Especially for life threatening issues. I mean, the conservatives are big on the divisive issue of when or when not to abort. What about applying some of that self righteousness to the people that are already here living too? I mean, don’t they count as much as the fetus?
The system has to support the American Dream – meaning the dream has to actually be achievable by those that through hard work and self development are willing to do what it takes…
A bit long winded in agreeing, but, Obama in short gets it that you need to understand and work the economic levers in a way that is progressive to the entire people. That is a conservative idea that he fundamentally appreciates and indeed will apply well….

Posted by: PaulStewart9 | October 30, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm

Now obamabots, I have to ask you….if Obama cared at all about the poor or working class———–don’t you think he would have some history of helping the poor in his own family? Common sense dictates yes, but the facts say he hasn’t. Stop drinking the kool-aid already.
Obama’s Aunt Found Living in Rundown Boston Neighborhood
The Democratic candidate’s Kenyan aunt is found living in a rundown public housing neighborhood in South Boston
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By James Bone, Rob Crilly and Ben Macintyre, The Times of London
Barack Obama has lived one version of the American dream that has taken him to the steps of the White House. But a few miles from where the Democratic presidential candidate studied at Harvard, his Kenyan aunt and uncle, immigrants living in modest circumstances in Boston, have a contrasting American story.
Zeituni Onyango, the aunt so affectionately described in Obama’s best-selling memoir “Dreams fFrom My Father,” lives in a disabled-access flat on a rundown public housing estate in South Boston.
A second relative believed to be the long-lost “Uncle Omar” described in the book was beaten by armed robbers with a “sawed-off rifle” while working in a corner shop in the Dorchester area of the city. He was later evicted from his one-bedroom apartment for failing to pay $2,324.20 in bills, according to the Boston Housing Court.
The press has repeatedly rehearsed Obama’s extraordinary odyssey, but the other side of the family’s American experience has only been revealed in parts. Just across town from where Obama made history as the first black president of the Harvard Law Review, some of his closest blood relatives have confronted the harshness of immigrant life in America.
In his book Obama writes that “Uncle Omar” had gone missing after moving to Boston in the 1960s a quarter-century before Obama first visited his family in Kenya. Aunt Zeituni is now also living in Boston, and recently made a $260 campaign contribution to her nephew’s presidential bid from a work address in the city.
Speaking outside her home in Flaherty Way, South Boston, on Tuesday, Onyango, 56, confirmed she was the “Auntie Zeituni” in Obama’s memoir. She declined to answer most other questions about her relationship with the presidential contender until after the November 4 election.
“I can’t talk about it, I just pray for him, that’s all,” she said, adding: “After the 4th, I can talk to anyone.”
Click to read the complete story at the Times of London

Posted by: chattyway | October 30, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm

Our Dearest Leader, who will bring us to the Promised Wonderland in Karl’s Dreams, up on his arrival to the Senate, the “honorable” Freshman Junior Senator from Illinois immediately earmarked a cool $1,000,000 for the employer who has just raised his wife’s salary by 150% up on learning the employee’s husband just elected to the Honorable job in the US Senate.
Our great Leader knows how to work with money. Don’t you trust him?

Posted by: skinny dog | October 30, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm

amazed,
Many people tend to vote in blocks … blacks, Southerners, religious fundamentalists, etc.
Vote for whom you wish, for any reason you wish. No one has to justify to anyone else why they cast their one vote.

Posted by: bugg | October 30, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm

Remember America Obama likes to throw people under the bus who aren’t convenient. From his RACIST pastor to his white grandmother , along with his half brother living on $12.00 per month in Africa. What a guy.

Posted by: Hippie Smasher | October 30, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm

Obama and our welfare state–
http://online.wsj.com/article/For the Obama Democrats, a tax cut is no longer letting you keep more of what you earn. In their lexicon, a tax cut includes tens of billions of dollars in government handouts that are disguised by the phrase tax credit. Mr. Obama is proposing to create or expand no fewer than seven such credits for individuals.Here’s the political catch. All but the clean car credit would be refundable, which is Washington-speak for the fact that you can receive these checks even if you have no income-tax liability. In other words, they are an income transfer — a federal check — from taxpayers to nontaxpayers. Once upon a time we called this welfare,

Posted by: amazed801 | October 30, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm

– He promised to vote against and even filabuster the FISA bill at time when he needed your votes. –
And yet, we still support him :) Of course, McCain did not vote against it, he didn’t even bother showing up to vote. He was one of only three senators who didn’t show up. Not suprising though, since McCain has missed more votes this session of Congress than any other Senator (over 64%).. a pattern he has shown for a while now (he was 3rd most absent in the last session of Congress).
And of course, McCain has voted against some of his own bills when the political winds shifted.. like on waterboarding. Funny how a former POW would vote against limiting torture as long as it would get him some votes.
He slamed Bush for his ‘tax cuts to the wealthy’ in 2000, yet reversed that stance in order to pander to his ‘base’ this year. Instead of picking a running mate that would put Country first, he again pandered to his ‘base’ and picked a bag of rocks that would simply garner him the far-right and wayside hillary voters.

Posted by: Concerned American | October 30, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm

Obama has been GREAT throughout this campaign. At first I thought he was weak by not defending his self while McCain constantly attacked him, but that was part of CHANGE from the old politics. McCain is still attacking and NOT focusing on the issues. Then he picked Palin “BAD JUDGEMENT” she is an absolute IDIOT, thats why they minimize her exposure to interviews. Imagine her if they won and McCain died!!! OMG Special Ed children are smarter than her!!! PLEASE VOTE FOR OBAMA, and SAVE OUR COUNTRY!!!! and perhaps our LIVES!!!

Posted by: Da' Kiqueeng | October 30, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm

RHBATE—Did you hear?–Bugg said
“Many people tend to vote in blocks … blacks, Southerners, religious fundamentalists, etc.
Vote for whom you wish, for any reason you wish. No one has to justify to anyone else why they cast their one vote./ or go to listen to a certin candidate speak.”

Posted by: amazed801 | October 30, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm

Yea Joe Biden was a great pick if you want a macaroon as VP.

Posted by: Hippie Smasher | October 30, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm

Obama’s broken another record: he’s gotten more money than anyone in history from unidentified donors – with names like “Doodad,” who lists his employer as “Loving” and has given more than $17,000 dollars – way over federal limits.
Posted by: amazed801 | Oct 30, 2008 9:24:20 PM
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Yet, he won’t use that money, but yours, your hard-earn taxed dollars to buy votes, promising to give you $1000 dollars if you vote for him.
Posted by: skinny dog | Oct 30, 2008 9:29:56 PM
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If it was Giuliani, Bush, McCain or any other that opted out of campaign financing to go on and raise more money by far and from the grass roots, they would be heralded as heroes. As brilliant. Why is it with Obama that McCain is saying it must be suspect? Is it because Obama is an African American? What gives here…..
I say Obama was brilliant in opting out. It was a huge gamble, it was a maverick move……… and it succeeded brilliantly.
Obama saved the taxpayers $85 million by opting out of public financing. He went the capitalist way of raising the money himself for his own campaign. Brilliant.

Posted by: PaulStewart9 | October 30, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm

I have to ask you….if Obama cared at all about the poor or working class———–don’t you think he would have some history of helping the poor in his own family? Common sense dictates yes, but the facts say he hasn’t.
Obama’s Aunt Found Living in Rundown Boston Neighborhood
The Democratic candidate’s Kenyan aunt is found living in a rundown public housing neighborhood in South Boston
Posted by: chattyway | Oct 30, 2008 9:40:03 PM
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You cannot be so demanding of our Dearest Leader’s time. He is so busy taking care of and helping other people. He had to use his time to earmark dollars to reward Mr. Rezko, the good Housing Developer, who helped so many on his Chicago Southside streets, to have more contracts from Illinois legislation to do his work. What is important? Helping his aunt on Boston’s street, or helping many on his Chicago streets?
Our Leader has the greater call from Karl, to do best for the Common good of the society, not his own blood.

Posted by: skinny dog | October 30, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm

We all will decide on our own – but since knowledge is power, I am passing this along…
A question of perspective :
Obama/Biden v.s. McCain/Palin, what if things were switched around?….. think about it. Would the country’s collective point of view be different? Could racism be the culprit? Ponder the following:
キ What if the Obamas had paraded five children across the stage, including a three-month-old infant and an unwed, pregnant teenage daughter?
キ What if John McCain was a former president of the Harvard Law Review?
キ What if Barack Obama finished fifth from the bottom of his graduating class?
キ What if McCain had only married once, and Obama was a divorcee?
キ What if Obama was the candidate who left his first wife after a severe disfiguring car accident, when she no longer measured up to his standards?
キ What if Obama had met his second wife in a bar and had a long affair while he was still married?
キ What if Michelle Obama was the wife who not only became addicted to painkillers but also acquired them illegally through her charitable organization?
キ What if Cindy McCain graduated from Harvard?
キ What if Obama had been a member of the Keating Five? (The Keating Five were five United States Senators accused of corruption in 1989, igniting a major political scandal as part of the larger Savings and Loan crisis of the late 1980s and early 1990s.)
キ What if McCain was a charismatic, eloquent speaker?
キ What if Obama couldn’t read from a teleprompter?
キ What if Obama was the one who had military experience that included discipline problems and a record of crashi ng seven planes?
キ What if Obama was the one who was known to display publicly, on many occasions, a serious anger management problem?
キ What if Michelle Obama’s family had made their money from beer distribution?
キ What if the Obamas had adopted a white child?
キ You could easily add to this list. If these questions reflected reality, do you really believe the election numbers would be as close as they are?
This is what racism does. It covers up, rationalizes and minimizes positive qualities in one candidate and emphasizes negative qualities in another when there is a color difference.
Educational Background:
キ Barack Obama:
o Columbia University – B.A. Political Science with a Specialization in International Relations.
o Harvard – Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude
キ Joseph Biden:
o University of Delaware – B.A. in History and B.A. in Political Science.
o Syracuse University College of Law – Juris Doctor (J.D.)
vs.
キ John McCain:
o United States Naval Academy – Class rank: 894 of 899
キ Sarah Palin:
o Hawaii Pacific University – 1 semester
o North Idaho College – 2 semesters – general study
o University of Idaho – 2 semesters – journalism
o &n bsp; Matanuska-Susitna College – 1 semester
o University of Idaho – 3 semesters – B.A. in Journalism
Education isn’t everything, but this is about the two highest offices in the land as well as our standing in the world. You make the call.

Posted by: Michelle Angelique | October 30, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm

– Yea Joe Biden was a great pick if you want a macaroon as VP. –
no, that would be Palin.. no, I take that back.. I thin a macaroon is smarter than Palin, and would probably be much tastier to eat.

Posted by: Concerned American | October 30, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm

And what will these Wall Street people expect to get for all of their enormous donations to Obama??–I think I would have preferred that he honored his word so he wouldn’t owe anyone a favor(kind of like the favor he owed Rezko)–
Obama’s corporate donor list looks like a Who’s Who of the Wall Street collapse – except some have given more to Obama. Lots more.
“The Obama campaign has just vacuumed up the money in this cycle, specifically from Goldman Sachs, Obama has received over $740,000, as opposed to McCain’s $220,000,” Krumholz said.
Not to mention that the former head of Goldman Sachs, Robert Rubin, is Obama’s chief economic advisor – and two current executives are bundling for him (David Heller and Bruce Heyman). “Bundlers” are mega-fundraisers who, critics say, get special access.
Another big Obama bundler is Citicorp’s Michael Froman. Obama’s even tapped him to help put together his new administration.
Obama has tripled McCain’s haul from Lehman Brothers interests.
Citigroup, Morgan Stanley and JP Morgan Chase? More, more and lots more to Obama.

Posted by: amazed801 | October 30, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm

Just remember folks.. if you want to pay more in taxes so the wealthy can pay less, vote McCain. If you want more Americans to lose health insurance thereby increasing the burden on everyone, vote McCain. If you truly enjoy war and the spilling of American blood for no valid reason, vote McCain. If you want 3 1/2 year more of a dumber Bush on steroids, vote McCain.
The rest of us real Americans are voting for what is best for the Country. We are voting for a future. We are voting Obama.

Posted by: Concerned American | October 30, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm

I say Obama was brilliant in opting out.
Posted by: PaulStewart9 | Oct 30, 2008 9:46:18 PM
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Yup. To you Capitalists, you only know things like a man of his word, honesty, hardworking.
We blind followers can care less whether or not he breaks his promises. He will take care of us as he promised. As Concerned American said, we still support him no matter what promises he breaks. “It’s Our Time, It’s 0bama Time” to destroy you capitalists.

Posted by: skinny dog | October 30, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm

OntheGloryRoad ~ if you are still on this board, thank you for such a beautiful post. I choked up reading it. It was very moving.
For those of you who say they won’t be voting for Obama because they “just don’t know enough about the guy” – The reason I will not be voting for McCain is because I KNOW TOO MUCH ABOUT THE GUY. He’s a deceitful adulterer and hypocrite who fabricates lies about Obama only because he has no decent position on which to base his candidacy.

Posted by: Michelle Angelique | October 30, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm

A little more info for the knowledge is power crowd–
“call it a tax cut.The Tax Foundation estimates that under the Obama plan 63 million Americans, or 44% of all tax filers, would have no income tax liability and most of those would get a check from the IRS each year. The Heritage Foundation’s Center for Data Analysis estimates that by 2011, under the Obama plan, an additional 10 million filers would pay zero taxes while cashing checks from the IRS. The total annual expenditures on refundable tax credits would rise over the next 10 years by $647 billion to $1.054 trillion, according to the Tax Policy Center. This means that the tax-credit welfare state would soon cost four times actual cash welfare. By redefining such income payments as tax credits, the Obama campaign also redefines them away as a tax share of GDP. Presto, the federal tax burden looks much smaller than it really is”

Posted by: amazed801 | October 30, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm

“John has made a pact with the devil,” says Lincoln Chafee, the former GOP senator, who has been appalled at his one-time colleague’s readiness to sacrifice principle for power. Chafee and McCain were the only Republicans to vote against the Bush tax cuts. They locked arms in opposition to drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. And they worked together in the “Gang of 14,” which blocked some of Bush’s worst judges from the federal bench.
“On all three — sadly, sadly, sadly — McCain has flip-flopped,” Chafee says. And forget all the “Country First” sloganeering, he adds. “McCain is putting himself first. He’s putting himself first in blinking neon lights.”

Posted by: JohnM | October 30, 2008, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm

I feel that if you are a republican, you must be unsure of your candidate, to feel you have to argue his case for him on this post. I saw the video and have followed the whole campaign, and McCain has nothing to offer the American people,(in my opinion) but I wont dwell on that. There may or may not be rioting on Nov. 5,2008 reguardless of who wins the presidency. This election should be based on good vs. bad, and Truth vs. Lies and whats best for our Country!
OBAMA/BIDEN 2008

Posted by: feast52000 | October 30, 2008, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm

Changes proposed by Obama’s campaign advisors would mean the national debt would grow by $5.7 trillion over 10 years, while proposals spelled out by McCain’s campaign would add $7.4 trillion, according to the Tax Policy Center. If you add up proposals made in stump speeches, the total 10-year debt increase comes to $5.4 trillion for Obama and $10.9 trillion for McCain, according to the center’s analysis.

Posted by: TaxMan | October 30, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm

NOw about Obama’s health care plan–
THE SPIN: “That’s why my health care plan includes improving information technology, requires coverage for preventive care and pre-existing conditions and lowers health care costs for the typical family by $2,500 a year.”
THE FACTS: His plan does not lower premiums by $2,500, or any set amount. Obama hopes that by spending $50 billion over five years on electronic medical records and by improving access to proven disease management programs, among other steps, consumers will end up saving money. He uses an optimistic analysis to suggest cost reductions in national health care spending could amount to the equivalent of $2,500 for a family of four. Many economists are skeptical those savings can be achieved, but even if they are, it’s not a certainty that every dollar would be passed on to consumers in the form of lower premiums.

Posted by: amazed801 | October 30, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm

McCain and Palin threw us all under the bus.

Posted by: Ashley Todd | October 30, 2008, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm

“Caught the show, too, with a house full of my son’s friends, late twenties, early thirties. These guys got up and did the hopey dopey. Pretty funny.
You put your paycheck in, you take your paycheck out, you put your paycheck in and you shake it all about. You do the hopey dopey and you pay the other guy, that’s what’s all about.
You put your service hours in, you take your service hours out, you put your service hours in and you shake em all about. You do the hopey dopey and you work yourself to the ground, that’s what it’s all about.
That’s a sample, it went on and on. I guess there are no BO supporters in this house here in Calif.”

Posted by: cindy | October 30, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm

And yet McCains health plan would cost roughly the same (until you add in his ‘high risk’ pool which tacks on another $1 trillion), but would cause more americans to lose insurance. Now that is a great deal!

Posted by: TaxMan | October 30, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm

It’s amazing—–The more trash McCain and Palin hurl at him the greater his focus and equanimity. Barack Obama shows that not only does he have class but is a person of real integrity!
His manner and countenance reveal a person who is thoughtful, centered and who seeks to put others first.
He will serve this nation and all of it’s citizens well.
God bless and keep you Barack Obama!

Posted by: Leukevent | October 30, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm

1,636 dead voters registered in Florida
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Viva, ACORN.

Posted by: skinny dog | October 30, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm

How does that McCain health plan work again?
Oh yeah.. he would tax my employer for providing me health insurance. That is an effort to get me to switch to a private carrier, and due to his deregulation, it might mean crossing state lines to get coverage or care. Then he would give me a $5000 tax credit to cover my $14,000 family policy.
Hmm, sounds like the rich guys might be able to afford it, but not the poor working slobs who are just trying to put food on the table and keep a roof over their families head.
Oh, I forgot.. McCain thinks that the “middle class” earns over $150K, since those are the only ones who would see a tax break under his failed trickle down third term Bush plan. What a nice guy he is.

Posted by: Concerned American | October 30, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm

LIke McCain said in the last debate listen to the words—
THE SPIN: “I also believe every American has a right to affordable health care.”
THE FACTS: That belief should not be confused with a guarantee of health coverage for all. He makes no such promise. Obama hinted as much in the ad when he said about the problem of the uninsured: “I want to start doing something about it.” He would mandate coverage for children but not adults. His program is aimed at making insurance more affordable by offering the choice of government-subsidized coverage similar to that in a plan for federal employees and other steps, including requiring larger employers to share costs of insuring workers.

Posted by: amazed801 | October 30, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm

Hey, Paul Stewart9: Are you talking about Karl Rove or Karl Marx? I’d say Rove. Don’t worry, he’s in the background trying to steal this election, too. That way, the Bushies can take all of your hard-earned money — legally.

Posted by: usapatri8 | October 30, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm

More than likely the same dead voters that voted for Bush??????

Posted by: feast52000 | October 30, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm

All you people that are bad mouthing Obama are either greedy rich bastards, racist or just plain DUMB! Get over yourselves and your Republican roots, THEY’RE SHOWING!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Monica | October 30, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm

TO THE CHRISTIANS:
Would you Christians HERE, say these hateful, biggoted things YOU SAY AND WRITE EVERYDAY .. TO JESUS if HE was standing there with you IN YOUR HOUSE ???
I DO NOT THINK YOU WOULD SAY THESE THINGS TO YOUR JEWISH MESSIAH, WHO UNDERWENT MORE MISTREATMENT IN HIS LIFE THEN YOU IN YOUR CUSHY CHURCH PEW LIVES ever have…
SHAME ON YOU PEOPLE FOR TRYING TO DESTROY SOMEONE SO YOU CAN HAVE YOUR ARROGANT WAY ..
MCCAIN AND PALIN WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER OFF RUNNING A CLEAN CAMPAIGN.
EVEN IF MCCAIN WINS, HE MAY BE SORRY HE LISTENED TO THE KARL ROVE TYPES …

Posted by: remnant888 | October 30, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm

Both John McCain and Barack Obama have proposed tax plans that would substantially increase the national debt over the next ten years, according to a newly updated analysis by the non-partisan Tax Policy Center. Compared to current law, TPC estimates the Obama plan would cut taxes by $2.9 trillion from 2009-2018. McCain would reduce taxes by nearly $4.2 trillion. Obama would give larger tax cuts to low- and moderate-income households and pay some of the cost by raising taxes on high-income taxpayers. In contrast, McCain would cut taxes across the board

Posted by: amazed801 | October 30, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm

Iran is plotting a nuclear strike on Israel immediately after Barrack Obama is elected President. The Iranians believe president Obama will not send US troops to aid Israel, and will not take a side in the ensuing conflict. If McCain is elected they will not go through with the attack, fearing the McCain administration will firmly back Israel.

Posted by: Waylon | October 30, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm

The reason I’m not voting for Obama is that I know TOO MUCH ABOUT THE GUY.
If you’ve graduated high school you’re old enough to have learned that the majority of Americans are too lazy or too ignorant to make informed decisions.
Voting for Obama is simply jumping on a band wagon. It sounds pretty, and virtually everyone is bored with the Bush administration. So you want change? I agree. Consider the change you are voting for with Obama. If he is elected please quote me, thirty years from now people will look back at his character, ideology, and influence as radical and damaging.
I ask everyone to vote. However, voting also gives everyone a responsibility to be educated about both candidates. Don’t watch a thirty minute program on Obama, see P. Diddy endorse him, and then repeat what you heard from the weird guy in your english class about how cool he is.
Do research with an open mind. Your life and your children’s life is something you shouldn’t be so quick to risk for a “fad.” Obama has some amazing campaign techniques. He knows exactly how to inspire people who just want to be told what to do, and who don’t want to think for themself. Be your own leader and THINK.
Also, don’t be so quick to defend “choice.” Everyone has the right to choose, but our nation has collectively decided to elect a government that will punish choices that infringe upon another’s rights. Please don’t vote for a president who has voted against the Born Alive Act four times in three years. Killing a baby who has survived an attempted abortion, is already outside of the womb, and is breathing is murder.
http://www.americaschoicenow.com/
Just THINK for yourself. Voting for someone doesn’t mean you have to agree on every issue they support, but one as important as protecting your life you may want to take into consideration.
Don’t be the person thirty years from now who has to admit he voted for someone that would do such haneous things as Obama has supported.
Every citizen with the power to vote has a social responsibility. Fulfill it.

Posted by: Abby | October 30, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm

The reason I’m not voting for Obama is that I know TOO MUCH ABOUT THE GUY.
If you’ve graduated high school you’re old enough to have learned that the majority of Americans are too lazy or too ignorant to make informed decisions.
Voting for Obama is simply jumping on a band wagon. It sounds pretty, and virtually everyone is bored with the Bush administration. So you want change? I agree. Consider the change you are voting for with Obama. If he is elected please quote me, thirty years from now people will look back at his character, ideology, and influence as radical and damaging.
I ask everyone to vote. However, voting also gives everyone a responsibility to be educated about both candidates. Don’t watch a thirty minute program on Obama, see P. Diddy endorse him, and then repeat what you heard from the weird guy in your english class about how cool he is.
Do research with an open mind. Your life and your children’s life is something you shouldn’t be so quick to risk for a “fad.” Obama has some amazing campaign techniques. He knows exactly how to inspire people who just want to be told what to do, and who don’t want to think for themself. Be your own leader and THINK.
Also, don’t be so quick to defend “choice.” Everyone has the right to choose, but our nation has collectively decided to elect a government that will punish choices that infringe upon another’s rights. Please don’t vote for a president who has voted against the Born Alive Act four times in three years. Killing a baby who has survived an attempted abortion, is already outside of the womb, and is breathing is murder.
http://www.americaschoicenow.com/
Just THINK for yourself. Voting for someone doesn’t mean you have to agree on every issue they support, but one as important as protecting your life you may want to take into consideration.
Don’t be the person thirty years from now who has to admit he voted for someone that would do such haneous things as Obama has supported.
Every citizen with the power to vote has a social responsibility. Fulfill it.

Posted by: Abby | October 30, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm

Bilking News: Exxon/Mobil reports 14.8 BILLION dollar profit for 3rd quarter. Isn’t it nice that Bush’s, Cheney’s, McCain’s, and Palin’s buddies can reap our lost hard-earned dollars up to the last moment! Cannot wait to see the Martin-Marietta report! And think how many of your dollars are being shipped overseas to the Bush’s closest friends – the Saudis.

Posted by: usapatri8 | October 30, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm

“America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.”
–Abraham Lincoln

Posted by: amazed801 | October 30, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm

“1,636 dead voters registered in Florida”
oh i know!! and we will see how terrible that fact plays out when all those people rise up from the dead to cast their ballot on election day. Oh.. and mickey mouse.

Posted by: BIRD | October 30, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm

– That belief should not be confused with a guarantee of health coverage for all. He makes no such promise and never has. –
True.. he makes no such promise. And as the Tax Policy Center points out, his plan would cover more currently uninsured Americans (47%) than McCains plan would (7% at peak), be more efficient at doing so and provide an economic stimulus by saving businesses already providing health coverage for their employees an estimated $140 billion a year. Not to mention the increased revenue to health care providers due to the increased number of insured patients.
Even the Commonwealth Fund supports it!
http://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/publications_show.htm?doc_id=707948
Face it guys, it’s superior in virtually every respect, hands down. All you whining and complaining simply makes you look ignorant. Not one single analysis has come to a different conclusion.

Posted by: Concerned American | October 30, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm

Abby;
You must think you are slick.
First, you state the obvious and non-partisan: “Just THINK for yourself.”
Then, you tell us what to THINK: “Don’t be the person thirty years from now who has to admit he voted for someone that would do such haneous things as Obama has supported.”
You need to work on your act (and learn how to spell “heinous”).

Posted by: bugg | October 30, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm

– So you want change? I agree. Consider the change you are voting for with Obama. If he is elected please quote me, thirty years from now people will look back at his character, ideology, and influence as radical and damaging. –
Yeah, anyone old enough to have been through the last 10 or so election cycles have heard your sky is falling claims over and over again at each juncture.
Now, explain how, in any significant way, McCains stance on the issues differs from Bush..
Go on, give it a whirl.. nobody has been able to articulate it yet.. not even McCain.

Posted by: Concerned American | October 30, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm

FactCheck.org reported on the political donations from oil companies this year:
It’s true that Obama doesn’t take money directly from oil companies, but then, no presidential, House or Senate candidate does. They can’t: Corporations have been prohibited from contributing directly to federal candidates since the Tillman Act became law in 1907.
Obama has, however, accepted more than $213,000 in contributions from individuals who work for, or whose spouses work for, companies in the oil and gas industry, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.

Posted by: amazed801 | October 30, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm

Amazed, I, too, like those quotes from people like Lincoln:
Military glory–that attractive rainbow, that rises in showers of blood–that serpent’s eye, that charms to destroy…
~Abraham Lincoln
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If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
~James Madison
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Governments constantly choose between telling lies and fighting wars, with the end result always being the same. One will always lead to the other.
~Thomas Jefferson
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Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official…
~Theodore Roosevelt
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The dangerous patriot…drifts into chauvinism and exhibits blind enthusiasm for military actions.
~Colonel James A. Donovan, Marine Corps
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I hope our wisdom will grow with our power, and teach us, that the less we use our power the greater it will be.
~Thomas Jefferson
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The statesman who yields to war fever…is no longer the master of policy but the slave of unforeseeable and uncontrollable events.
~Sir Winston Churchill
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Of all the enemies to public liberty, war is perhaps the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other.
~James Madison
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War is a racket. It always has been. It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious.
~General Smedley Butler
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Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism.
~George Washington
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Posted by: bugg | October 30, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm

exxon mobil made 14 billion dollars in profits in this last quarter, the largest profits ever in the history of a us corporation…. and mccain wants to give them a tax cut.

Posted by: sk8boardgrind | October 30, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm

Glad you have ‘seen the light’ amazed801.. as your post points out, McCain would raise the national debt by $4.2 trillion, while Obama would only be $2.9 (and those are numbers just on tax plans).
Add up the other spending stuff, and you got McCain hitting us for $10.9 trillion over 10 years, and Obama for $5.4 (almost half what McCain wants to spend!).
Good boy!

Posted by: Concerned American | October 30, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm

Actually, McCain is favored by Al-Qaeda because they realize that Obama would not be as beneficial in drawing more recruits. You see, Democrats don’t still live in the “Injuns and Cowboys” age. Their thinking is a bit more complex than Repubs. I know that makes them un-American because they don’t believe that the U.S. should unilaterally bully the rest of the world. And, gee, they must be unpatriotic to not support Bush’s war in Iraq (the one our children will be paying for because he cut taxes, especially for the wealthy, during the war).
Obama may ask some sacrifices from American citizens…Bush told us to go shopping after 9-11. You guys just don’t get it. Bush/Cheney have brought us to ground zero and you think your votes should still count??

Posted by: Spruce | October 30, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm

Waylon,
“Iran is plotting a nuclear strike on Israel immediately after Barrack Obama is elected President. ”
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Lol. Of course it is. I, too, have a secret decoder ring that told me that.

Posted by: bugg | October 30, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm

– Iran is plotting a nuclear strike on Israel immediately after Barrack Obama is elected President. –
Let them.. I’m sure Israel can take care of themselves, and we don’t have the money to send troops anywhere at the moment.. you can feel free to go over there though if you feel strongly enough about it :)

Posted by: Concerned American | October 30, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm

Concerned American–Reread ….
‘Obama plan would cut taxes by $2.9 trillion from 2009-2018. McCain would reduce taxes by nearly $4.2 trillion.’–notice no insult either…

Posted by: amazed801 | October 30, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm

I can understand Israel’s concerns–
“At the World Policy Forum in France, the Reverend Jesse Jackson declared, ‘Although Zionists, who have controlled American policy for decades, remain strong, the decades of putting Israel’s interests first would end once Obama becomes president.’

Posted by: amazed801 | October 30, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm

– Concerned American–Reread –
I was the one that gave you the link.. apparently you are the one with reading comprehension skills below par.. what part of “Both John McCain and Barack Obama have proposed tax plans that would substantially INCREASE THE NATIONAL DEBT over the next ten years” and then goes on to give you the AMOUNT they would raise the national debt. You simply don’t get it do you? It’s no wonder you are voting for McCain.. you can’t even understand what you read!

Posted by: Concerned American | October 30, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm

Just for clarification, Obama has said all along that if you make less than $200,000 then you get a tax break. If you make $200,000 to $250,000 you have no change in your taxe rate. If you make more than $250,000 then you get a whopping 3% increase. And all Obama meant by “spreading the wealth” was continuation of the graduated tax system. It’s just that the middle class who are suffering won’t have to bear the brunt of it.

Posted by: Ben Shalom | October 30, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm

Waylon–
That is why France’s Sarkosky called Obama “immature and naive” when it comes to Iran.

Posted by: amazed801 | October 30, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm

– I can understand Israel’s concerns –
I can’t.. Iran doesn’t even have nuclear weapons.. so I guess that would thwart any plans they have on a ‘nuclear strike’ wouldn’t you think?
But the more gullible certainly will fall for it :)

Posted by: Concerned American | October 30, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm

Abby, I am fulfilling my social responsibility in kicking the Repubs out of office. They have shown themselves to be exceptionally prone to catering to lobbyists and large corporations and not caring about the common people. In fact, I am tired of being lied to by my President and VP, tired of being deceived so they can give away our taxes to their cronies in the defense and oil industries.
Are you aware that some defense stocks rose by 8,000-15,000% during Bush’s term? Our government has been a failure at governing for the long-term interests of the people and this land.
I want someone who can think past the short-term profits of CEOs, see the big picture, and realize the hard work that we all need to do to improve this country…from the ground up.
We need to invest in OUR infrastructure, OUR schools and educational system, OUR future…and not continue to throw away American lives and money in wars begun by an unthinking, shoot-from-the-gut, unblinking, incurious, can’t-believe-you-re-elected-him man of less than ordinary backbone.

Posted by: Spruce | October 30, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm

INVESTORS FLEE FROM OBAMA”S TAX PLAN_KEMP
“Obama argues disingenuously that his tax increases would only affect higher-income workers and corporate fat cats. But it is precisely these top marginal tax rates that control incentives for savings, investment, entrepreneurship, business expansion, jobs and economic growth. While he wants to tax the rich, the burden will fall on the poor and the middle class.”

Posted by: amazed801 | October 30, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm

– That is why France’s Sarkosky called Obama “immature and naive” when it comes to Iran. –
Yes, obtained from some unnamed ‘Government official’ in Israel based on yet unidentified ‘reports’..
All the while, in the real world, Sarkosky has said: “The remarks attributed by the newspaper Haaretz to the president of the French Republic concerning Sen. Obama’s positions on Iran are groundless,” the French Embassy said in a statement. “To the contrary, the in-depth discussions between the president of the republic and Sen. Obama on Iran during their meeting in Paris in July demonstrated a broad convergence of views on this issue,”
Whoops.. chalk off another ‘attack’ point :)

Posted by: Concerned American | October 30, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm

Concerned American–Again reread article– SARKOKSY never said that it was an aide. OOPS guess it;s back on the table.

Posted by: amazed801 | October 30, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm

You can fool some of the people some of the time but you can fool Obama followers all the time. Obama is one to be showy and phoney ..phoney Oval Office ..phony speaches and phoney promises..he could not even keep the simple promise of Fed funds and not voting to grandfather easedropping…he avoided the truth about his plans and actual cost..a fool and his vote will soon be sorry if Obama wins the elections he if the worst of all the candidates that could buy the Oval office.

Posted by: SLS | October 30, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm

More facts about Obama helping the middle class———
These tax credits are devised to phase-out based on income, which will ultimately increase marginal income tax rates for middle-class workers. In other words, as you earn more, you suffer a penalty in the phase-out of these credits, which has the exact effect of a marginal tax rate increase. That harms, rather than improves, the economy.

Posted by: amazed801 | October 30, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm

– But it is precisely these top marginal tax rates that control incentives for savings, investment, entrepreneurship, business expansion, jobs and economic growth. While he wants to tax the rich, the burden will fall on the poor and the middle class.” –
Hmm, lets see, we have tried the trickle down plan now numerous times and every time it has failed, causing the debt to skyrocket and unemployment to rise.. and by increasing the tax rate to the wealthy, the “middle class” will absorb more of the tax burden.. yeah, that makes sense.. to those who have no grasp on economics!

Posted by: Concerned American | October 30, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm

amazed, I find it odd that you care what Sarkovsky said. Think for yourself.

Posted by: bugg | October 30, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm

‘With the bottom 40% of income earners not paying any federal income taxes, such tax credits would not reduce any tax liability for these workers. Instead, since they’re refundable, they would involve new checks from the federal government.’

Posted by: amazed801 | October 30, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm

I am a proud supporter of Barack Obama and Joe Biden. Obama has conducted his campaign in such a remarkable way. Every step is measured, and well thought. This infomercial is targeting undecided voters few days before election day, at a time where polls tend to get closer, to counter-attack the negative attacks McCain has been and will continue to make. The GOP is scared and desperate, they want to stay in power, and they will continue to get nastier and lower. Let’s get involved, let’s talk to people, make sure people you know show up and vote. We’ve come too far and now we have to fight harder than ever. Let’s make sure we all vote and elect Obama/Biden ’08.
God bless America

Posted by: miguel | October 30, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm

I am a proud supporter of Barack Obama and Joe Biden. Obama has conducted his campaign in such a remarkable way. Every step is measured, and well thought. This infomercial is targeting undecided voters few days before election day, at a time where polls tend to get closer, to counter-attack the negative attacks McCain has been and will continue to make. The GOP is scared and desperate, they want to stay in power, and they will continue to get nastier and lower. Let’s get involved, let’s talk to people, make sure people you know show up and vote. We’ve come too far and now we have to fight harder than ever. Let’s make sure we all vote and elect Obama/Biden ’08.
God bless America

Posted by: miguel | October 30, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm

bugg– Thanks–I would offer you the same advice!

Posted by: amazed801 | October 30, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm

Character. Character. Character.
In so many ways, on so many occasions McCain has thrown his under the wheels of his “Straight-Talk Express”.
During the debates, he acted like a boy compared to Obama.
One man has a vision of improving this country. The other has a vision of getting rid of earmarks. Fine, let him stay in the Senate and work on getting rid of earmarks.
It seems like we all had some respect for McCain back in 2000. Isn’t is ironic that McCain may be burned by Karl Rove twice? Once by Rove’s smears/fears tactics used by Bush in the 2000 campaign. The second time by McCain himself using Rove’s tactics…Country First??
No. The perennial divisive tactics of FEAR. Maybe, just maybe, we will have grown wise to their cheap campaign tricks.

Posted by: Spruce | October 30, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm

I’m glad to see that so many of you got that warm tingly feeling up your leg last night. I suppose that was worth the millions of dollars (that were donated by people so poor they can’t put gas in their cars to get to work…I suppose).

Posted by: Grand Old Party | October 30, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm

I have no idea how the people in the McCain campaign sleep at night. Lie after lie after lie. They are running a campaign based on fear they are placing into their followers. Obama is a decent, honest public servant who only wants to make this country better. I only hope that voters realize this next week.

Posted by: Linda | October 30, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm

Before all of you get too excited about all the jobs Obama will be “creating”
Obama’s tax-rate increases on income will fall heavily on small businesses, which create the majority of net new jobs.
Here’s why: According to Internal Revenue Service data, half of all business income is taxed at individual rather than corporate tax rates, and about two-thirds of all flow-through business income is earned by small-business owners with annual incomes exceeding $200,000.
The bottom line: Up to one-third of all business income is taxed at the two marginal rates Obama wants to raise.
Look on the bright side: You’ll get a nice tax break on the income tax you’ll be paying from your unemployment compensation.

Posted by: Present | October 30, 2008, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm

I watched the stupid infomercial, but it doesn’t mean I support Obama.

Posted by: S Adams | October 30, 2008, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm

Most people that talk about taxes have never fill out their taxes except for the EZ form or 1040 with no deductions. When you have complex tax filing and understanding it along with your CPA or whomever that fills out your form each year, then you can speak on the issues of taxes. Don’t just trust your CPA or your tax person; you need to know just as much as they do because it is your money. Take the time to learn it because you should know it. At that point, then you can speak intelligent about the issue of taxes.
Go and vote for Obama/Biden ticket because they do have a better plan, a better mission statement, a better goal for America, a better course of action of implementing the plan. If you don’t know what the qualities of a leader, then look at Senator Obama and vote for the Obama/Biden ticket. Your vote will not be wasted! When real true people make it, they reach back to help bring somebody forward. They don’t hide behind gated communities cutting themselves off from the country from which they have stolen the pension plans of their employees. Obama/Biden is not just trying to reach back to bring somebody forward, they are reaching back to bring forward America. It’s doesn’t get any better than that. Leaders that you can depend on! Obama/Biden

Posted by: Jose | October 30, 2008, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm

- YES WE CAN! – VOTE FOR CHANGE – 2008

Posted by: Targaray | October 30, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm

It was a great presentation, to the point, offers his plan on resolving some tough issues. I was moved and it is great to have a hope for the future.
Whatever McCain like to say about Obama, McCain just cannot move people with his speech at all. McCain just cannot bring inspiration to the audience.

Posted by: OpenEyes | October 31, 2008, 12:05 am 12:05 am

I am happy to say I didn’t bother to watch the programmed mannequine messiah deliver his “message to the nation,” while immitating a genuine commander-in-chief. He should have saved his little drama for Halloween and played the part of the “CANDY MAN” passing out the candy after the show.
Not since Adolph Hitler’s rise to power in Germany, have we seen such a political aberration as this; and, it is also interesting to note, that his greatest public audience to date, was actually in Berlin. As a reformed “user” (and possibly even a “dealer,”) he obviously knows exactly what methods to employ to get his clients hooked on his psycho-rhetoric.
This is “trick or treat” to the max, and really spooky too!

Posted by: T-Jack | October 31, 2008, 12:06 am 12:06 am

I understand the middle and lower class desire to raise the tax rate on $250K plus incomes, but in real life practice it doesn’t work. It’s a job killer, which leads to tax revenues actually decreasing. It’s not a theory, it’s proven fact that has been proven over and over throughout history. Combine that with increasing capital gains and you have the perfect storm. Kill jobs and stifle investment. It’s very similar to what happened in 1929, where a simple recession was turned into a severe depression because the government mishandled the situation.

Posted by: Present | October 31, 2008, 12:06 am 12:06 am

Isn’t it just awesome that he can spend millions of dollars in advertising and needless informercials to “help the country”?? If he wants to “Spread the Wealth” he should have used some of the ridiculous amounts of campaign money idiots are throwing at him. Whoo hoo, let’s get the MOST liberal of the liberals in office. Yay.

Posted by: camaro91 | October 31, 2008, 12:16 am 12:16 am

Ahaha!
Obama just realized that we have one President at a time! At least, that is what he recently told President Sarkozy of France!… (see article below)
Yes, after Obama got blasted by Germany’s Merkel and the media (here and abroad) for giving that pathetic speech in Berlin – the speech that is NOT going down in history as Obama imagined it – now he turned down Sarkozy’s invitation to attend the economic crisis summit on Nov. 15.
I guess the “hypocrite” did not want to hear the music again and also did not want to be seen together with President Bush and Sarkozy (Sarkozy is a right wing conservative).
Of course, we know that Obama does not like to associate himself with right wing conservatives – he prefers the company of terrorrists/socialists/radicals/marxists!!
He will mot attend the Economic Crisis Summit which President Bush and President Sarkozy are co-hosting in Washington but he had no problem giving touring Europe and giving a speech in Berlin! His Audacity went to Berlin but did not even visit our wounded soldiers at the Ramstein airforce base.
Read the full story here…You will also find an international level “gaffe” by Biden that Europeans paid attention to but the American people do not even know about it. That is because our left wing liberal media does not like to report negative things about their “Chosen Ones”.
This is just a partial comment from the story as published in the International Herald Tribune:

Posted by: Natasha | October 31, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am

He is ready to be the commender in chief. He shows great leadership. Obama looks more experience than John McCain. He is very positive. I will vote for him. He deserves my vote.

Posted by: THAMSON | October 31, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am

Hmmm…Gaza Arabs for Obama ’08…
([ISRAEL/INTERNATIONAL] IHC News, 29 October 2008)
1. Abu Jayyab and other Arab residents of Gaza have been running a freelance phone campaign for Democratic presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama in the final days of the US presidential race. According to a recent article in the Al-Hayat Al-Jadia daily, Gaza Arab support teams use Internet sites that allow free calls from which they randomly phone individuals in the United States and urge them to vote for Obama. Other forms of support for the Democratic senator have issued forth from the Hamas-controlled region in past months: A July 2008 probe into Obama’s received donations alleged he had accepted $30,000 in 2007 from two Arab brothers living in the Gaza Strip. Additionally, during an April 2008 radio interview, Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh’s political advisor Ahmed Yousef said, “Actually, we like Mr. Obama. We hope he will [win] the election.” Republican presidential candidate Senator John McCain commented in response it was clear why Hamas would not want him to be the American president, and if the terrorist organization favored Obama then people could make judgements accordingly. A Reuter’s telephone poll released 29 October revealed Obama holds a four point national lead over McCain. A recent survey of 500 Israeli Jewish adults commissioned by the Rabin Center for Israel Studies showed Israelis overwhelmingly prefer McCain to Obama. If given the opportunity to vote in the US presidential election, Israelis would choose McCain by a margin of 12% over his Democratic opponent. (Sources: INN/IHC)
2. French President Nicolas Sarkozy has reportedly described US presidential candidate Barack Obama’s stance on Iran as being “utterly immature,” and composed of “formulations empty of all content.” Sarkozy’s criticisms, made during closed meetings in France, reached Israel’s government in recently forwarded reports. According to a senior Israeli source, Sarkozy fears Obama might “arrogantly” ignore the policy of five permanent members of the UN Security Council plus Germany who maintain a united front on Iran. The French president is concerned Obama will open a direct dialogue with the Islamic Republic with no preconditions. Sarkozy has repeatedly expressed disappointment with Obama’s views on Iran since meeting with the Democratic senator in July 2008. He is of the opinion Obama’s stance is not crystallized and too open. Aides to the French president who held separate meetings with Obama’s advisors left talks with similar impressions and expressed similar disappointment. (Sources: Haaretz/IHC)
http://www.infoisrael.net/cgi-local/text.pl?source=2/a/ix/291020081

Posted by: Natasha | October 31, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am

Would the country’s collective point of view be different if…..
What if the Obamas had paraded five children across the stage, including a three month old infant and an unwed, pregnant teenage daughter?
What if John McCain was a former Editor in Chief of the Harvard Law Review?
What if Barack Obama finished *fifth from the bottom* of his graduating class?
What if McCain had only married once, and Obama was a divorcee?
What if Obama was the candidate who left his first wife after a severe disfiguring car accident, when she no longer measured up to his standards?
What if Obama had met his second wife in a bar and had a long affair while he was still married?
What if Michelle Obama was the wife who not only became addicted to pain killers but also acquired them illegally through her charitable organization?
What if Cindy McCain graduated from Harvard?
What if Obama had been a member of the Keating Five?(The Keating Five were five United States Senators accused of corruption in 1989, igniting a major political scandal as part of the larger Savings and Loan crisis of the late 1980s and early 1990s.)
What if McCain was a charismatic, eloquent speaker?
What if Obama couldn’t read from a teleprompter?
What if Obama was the one who had military experience that included discipline problems and a record of*crashing seven planes*?
What if Obama was the one who was known to display publicly, on many occasions, a serious anger management problem?
What if Michelle Obama’s family had made their money from beer distribution?
What if the Obamas had adopted a white child?
You could easily add to this list. If these questions reflected reality, do you really believe the election numbers would be as close as they are?
This is what racism does. It covers up, rationalizes and minimizes positive qualities in one candidate and emphasizes negative qualities in another when there is a color difference.
Educational Background:
Barack Obama:
Columbia University – B.A. Political Science with a Specialization
In International Relations.
Harvard – Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude
Joseph Biden:
University of Delaware – B.A. in History and B.A. in Political
Science.
Syracuse University College of Law – Juris Doctor (J.D.)
vs.
John McCain:
United States Naval Academy – Class rank: 894 of 899
Sarah Palin:
Hawaii Pacific University – 1 semester
North Idaho College – 2 semesters – general study
University of Idaho – 2 semesters – journalism
Matanuska-Susitna College – 1 semester
University of Idaho – 3 semesters – B.A. in Journalism
Education isn’t everything, but this is about the two highest offices in the land as well as our standing in the e world. You make the call.
There has to be a reason that, in spite of the above, we are where we are today.
Of course, there is a generous dosage of country-wide stupidity too.
“It’s a funny thing about life; if you refuse to accept anything but the best, you very often get it.”

Posted by: Hank | October 31, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am

Natasha – You sure distorted that story and even included some old distortions in your comments. The writer basically said that Europe better not get their hopes up about Obama because he is going to be no different than McCain. They will both put America first and will want things done America’s way. So if you are a McCain supporter, why would you critize Obama when some leaders in Europe sees him no different than McCain. Besides, I am sure you would have been critical of Obama and his arrogance for accepting an invitation to this economic summit when he had not even won election. Since the article did not say why he turned down the offer, the writer gave his opinion as to why Obama turned it down. In other words, the article was an opinion piece and not a news report.

Posted by: MikeMo1947 | October 31, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am

MY WIFEY WAS JUST TRYING TO SAY, SHE WOULD ONLY BE PROUD OF AMERICA IF GOOD OLE BUCKY WAS ELECTED PREZ. NOW DON’T BOTHER ME ASKING ABOUT ISSUES ANYMORE. (yes but mister president, it’s time for the State of the Union Address). WELL, JUST RUN THAT HOPE AND CHANGE CAMPAIGN SPEECH BY THOSE SUCKERS AGAIN.

Posted by: . | October 31, 2008, 12:47 am 12:47 am

OBAMA & THE ARABS – WHY MUSLIMS SEE HIM AS ONE OF THEM
New York Post
October 28, 2008
‘OBAMA! Inshallah!” – Obama! Allah willing! That slogan, scribbled on walls in Gaza, indicates the hopes that Barack Obama has inspired among Arabs.
While Obama has tried to push his origins into the background, his “Islamic roots” have won him a place in many Arabs’ hearts.
One columnist, Mohamed Al-Menshawi, hails Obama as “the candidate with Muslim roots” and as the “harbinger of solidarity between Americans and the Muslim world.”
Another, Al-Jazeera’s Aala al-Bayoumi, notes: “Had it not been for Obama, Arabs would not even bother to follow the US presidential race.” What makes the difference is Obama’s “Islamic and African roots.”
Marwan Bishara hails Obama’s “radical politics”: “For the US to vote in an African-American progressive liberal would certainly mark a departure from the hyper and violent conservatism of the Bush-McCain camp,” he writes. An Obama presidency “would be better for both the US and the Arab world.”
Obama especially appeals to pan-Arab nationalists angry at the United States for having ousted Saddam Hussein. Obama’s promise to leave Iraq gives pan-Arabs their only chance (albeit slim) to destroy the new Iraqi democracy.
While radical Arabs, including the Hamas leadership, favor Obama, most Arab officials are wary of him. They fear his inexperience and leftist connections might destroy all that has been gained in Iraq, provoke a bigger mess in Afghanistan, trigger a war with Pakistan and open the way for Khomeinist hegemony in the region.
Note that Obama wouldn’t be the first politician with Muslim roots to lead a major non-Muslim country. Carlos Menem, a Muslim of Syrian descent, served as Argentina’s president from 1989 to 1999. But he dropped his Arab-Islamic first name and adopted his baptismal Christian name before entering politics.
Obama, by contrast, has retained his Arabic-Islamic names. (Barack means “blessed” and Hussein means “beautiful.”) His family name is Swahili, an East African lingua franca based on Arabic. Arab commentators note that his siblings also all have Arabic Muslim names. His sister is called Oumah, Arabic for “the community of the faithful his older daughter, Malia, bears the name of a daughter of the Caliph Othman, who commissioned the compilation of the first edition of the Koran. That Obama’s stepfather was also a Muslim (from Indonesia) strengthens the empathy that many Arabs feel for him.
The Syrian regime has also indicated its preference for Obama, not least because President Bush forced it to end its 29-year military occupation of Lebanon. Buthaina Shaaban, an adviser to President Bashar al-Assad, has welcomed Obama’s call for radical change in US policy. She writes, “The change suggested by Obama is essential not only for the US but for the entire human family.”
Also enthusiastic for Obama is the Lebanese Hezbollah. The party’s No. 2, Sheik Naim al-Kassim, went as far as inviting Americans to vote Obama as a step toward peace with Islam. (The party disowned his comments as “personal opinion.”) Pro- Hezbollah columnist Amal Saad-Ghorayeb has no doubt that Arabs should welcome an Obama presidency because “African-Americans are more sympathetic to Arabs because they, too, are oppressed.”
Hussein Shobokshi, a liberal Saudi commentator, predicts that “Obama’s ascent to power in America would mark an important moral transformation in the superpower and is a healthy indicator of the long-awaited improvement in the international arena.” He envisages a new system in America in which “nongovernmental institutions will participate in the political decision-making process in an effective manner,” while “capitalism will undergo fundamental adjustment.”
Another liberal writer, Diana Makkled, sees Obama’s success as a sign that America is still the place where dreams are realized. That a man with a Muslim-African background might become president “could only take place in the US, not in the banana republics we live in,” she writes.
Arabs welcomed and widely commented on Colin Powell’s assertion that, even if Obama were a Muslim, it should not be held against him.
Some columnists have also noted Obama’s close ties to a number of Palestinian radicals, including Rashid Khalidi and the late Edward Said, as signs that the senator would change US Middle East policy in the Arabs’ favor. Strengthening that impression was an interview the Rev. Jessie Jackson granted to several Arab media outlets, including Al-Jazeera and the popular Internet newspaper Elaph, in which he promised an end to the United States’ allegedly pro-Israel policy.
Not all Arab commentators are struck by Obamania, however. His flip-flops on issues – including the future of Jerusalem, withdrawal from Iraq and dealing with the Iranian nuclear threat – have prompted some to counsel caution.
Tareq Al-Houmayed, editor of the daily Asharq Alawsat, warns Arabs not to expect too much: “Every American president would be governed by American interests. Obama’s understanding of politics is not important here.”
Abdulrahman al-Rashed, a Saudi commentator, also notes that no president can radically alter US global policies. He advises Arabs to neither have exaggerated hopes nor be dispirited when Obama tells the Israelis “more than they hoped to hear” to win Jewish support.
Amir Taheri’s latest book, “The Persian Night: Iran Under the Khomeinist Revolution,” is due out next month.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10282008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/obama__the_arabs_135632.htm?page=0

Posted by: Natasha | October 31, 2008, 12:48 am 12:48 am

Hank – Excellent post, but I disagree with the conclusion that this is caused by racism. I think racism is only a small part of the problem. I think the major reason is our two major parties that try to create false realities about themselves and their opponent. The average voter cannot sort it all out or have the time to dig for the truth. They just go by what they hear in the news, ads and comments from friends. Most news just let the candidates express their talking points and don’t correct the distortions.

Posted by: MikeMo1947 | October 31, 2008, 12:58 am 12:58 am

Natasha – You sure distorted that story and even included some old distortions in your comments.
MikeMo1947
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Distorted are your eyes, BOZO! My comments are very specific to a particular part of the article, which I chose to comment on. I posted the partila article of the story exactly as it appears on the article.
My comments pertain to that portion alone and the fact that you do not agree does not mean that I distorted the story, which as I said I have copied from its original source with the link provided.
Whether you like it or not the fact renains that Obama has officially turned down President Sarkozy’s invitation giving as a reason that America has one President at a time. In my opninion he made a as—le out of himself given the fact that he mat with both Sarkozy in France and Merkel in Germany during his trip in Europe, while in fact AMERICA HAD ONE PRESIDENT BACK THEN! Do you get the point. BOZO??
Let me try again, so you do not paly stupid with me again…
Yes, in my opinion Obama is a HYPOCRITE. How is it that he did not think of the fact that we had “one President at a time” when His Audacity went Europe giving that embarassing speech in Berlin?
It is apparent that the fact tha the got blasted by Germany’s Merkel and the media here and in Europe at that time – he changed his tune now.
To make it a little simpler for you BOZO…Obama flip-flopped! (it is not the first time).
Unless of course, you are going to convince us that His Audacity just realized that “America had one President at a time”….
Yeah – he suddenly learned it by some “Epiphany”
Obama – went to Europe thinking that he was going to meet a bunch of “angry” people – people against President Bush. Little that he did not know – THAT NAIVE AND GEOPOLITICALLY INEPT ONE – that Europe has made a sharp turn to the “conservative right” and that both Sarkozy and Merkel have replaced “anti-Bush” leaders. Obama thought that he was going to get lots of “talking points, ie. Europe hates us and all that crap. Perhaps the European Socialists hate us but NOT THE NEW EUROPEAN CONSERVATIVE RIGHT. So the trip blew in Obama’s face with Merkel having “blasted” Obama for his audacity to speak in Berlin.
You probably can not even find France on the map – let alone commenting about anything that has to do with global geopolitical issues.
McCain is right: That One is indeed NAIVE! It will surely be very interesting to see him – if elected – dealing with Sarkozy and Merkel (two right wing conservatives). Oh yeah, we have not even mentioned Italy yet!!
Obama the Socialist/Radical/Marxist with the European “Conservative Right”! Ahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Natasha | October 31, 2008, 1:32 am 1:32 am

Posted again for those who keep defending Obama’s sudden “Epiphany” that is “America has only one President at a time”
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Ahahaha!
Obama just realized that we have one President at a time! At least, that is what he recently told President Sarkozy of France!… (see article below)
Yes, after Obama got blasted by Germany’s Merkel and the media (here and abroad) for giving that pathetic speech in Berlin – the speech that is NOT going down in history as Obama imagined it – now he turned down Sarkozy’s invitation to attend the economic crisis summit on Nov. 15.
I guess the “hypocrite” did not want to hear the music again and also did not want to be seen together with President Bush and Sarkozy (Sarkozy is a right wing conservative).
Of course, we know that Obama does not like to associate himself with right wing conservatives – he prefers the company of terrorrists/socialists/radicals/marxists!!
He will mot attend the Economic Crisis Summit which President Bush and President Sarkozy are co-hosting in Washington but he had no problem giving touring Europe and giving a speech in Berlin! His Audacity went to Berlin but did not even visit our wounded soldiers at the Ramstein airforce base.
Read the full story here…You will also find an international level “gaffe” by Biden that Europeans paid attention to but the American people do not even know about it. That is because our left wing liberal media does not like to report negative things about their “Chosen Ones”.
This is just a partial comment from the story as published in the International Herald Tribune:

Posted by: Natasha | October 31, 2008, 1:37 am 1:37 am

MY WIFEY WAS JUST TRYING TO SAY, SHE WOULD ONLY BE PROUD OF AMERICA IF GOOD OLE BUCKY WAS ELECTED PREZ. NOW DON’T BOTHER ME ASKING ABOUT ISSUES ANYMORE. (yes but mister president, it’s time for the State of the Union Address). WELL, JUST RUN THAT HOPE AND CHANGE CAMPAIGN SPEECH BY THOSE SUCKERS AGAIN.
Posted by: . |
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Ahahaha!
Check this out…
At another ABC blog, “k” wrote:
PUTIN IS ON THE PHONE? TELL THAT BRO TO WAIT A MINUTE, UNTIL I CAN STOP STUTTERING. WHAT? NUCLEAR MISSLES HEADED THIS WAY? TELL HIM I HAVE A PLAN FOR HOPE AND CHANGE, AND I’LL GET BACK TO HIM AS SOON AS I FIGURE IT OUT!
Posted by: k
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/10/obama-will-say.html?cid=136007211#comment-136007211

Posted by: Natasha | October 31, 2008, 1:44 am 1:44 am

McCain pals around with Michael Goldfarb! Check out the video of CNN’s Rich Sanchez and McCain flak Goldfarb. Laugh your ### off. McCain has surrounded himself with a bunch of incompetents. This might be the best of the lot.

Posted by: Steve from Danville | October 31, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am

Release the supressed tape LA Times!! Let us see what is so damaging.

Posted by: zeke | October 31, 2008, 1:52 am 1:52 am

Obama has surrounded himself with a bunch of radicals

Posted by: zeke | October 31, 2008, 1:55 am 1:55 am

The buffoons who surround McCain are almost as wacky as the zealots who post their nut job conspiracy theories on ABC News. Go read a book, wacko. The neo-cons play you like a violin… you are the low-information voter, the low-hanging fruit that makes Karl Rove laugh himself to sleep every night.

Posted by: Steve from Danville | October 31, 2008, 1:57 am 1:57 am

The low-information voter is the target for McCain Palin these days. There incoherent barbs don’t make sense to anyone else. That’s why conservaties like George Will and David Brooks are mocking the losers who eat it up. Karl Rove invented the low-hanging fruit in the Republican base. When the fruit finally realize they are being played for suckers they will head for the hills.

Posted by: Steve from Danville | October 31, 2008, 2:00 am 2:00 am

The leadership of the Republican party has abandoned most Republican voters. By getting cozy with wing nuts like Hannity and Limbaugh, they have turned their backs on the centrists who now own the only voice of reason in the GOP. The right wing is completely nutty. Centrists and independents: vote Democratic this year and send a message to the hijackers on the right wing.

Posted by: Steve from Danville | October 31, 2008, 2:03 am 2:03 am

To save the Republican party it might be necessary to burn it down first. The leadership of the GOP has completely cut loose from any form of reality in terms of meeting the challenges of America. Get elected and then get re-elected… keep feeding the lobbyists. Voters need to send a message this time: vote 100% Democratic.

Posted by: Steve from Danville | October 31, 2008, 2:06 am 2:06 am

Judith Crist, won’t you people ever learn? It’s “I’ll get you my pretty and your little dog too. Ahahahaha!!!!”

Posted by: Wicked Witch of the West | October 31, 2008, 2:42 am 2:42 am

– Obama has surrounded himself with a bunch of radicals –
Obama could have a field day if he wanted to play the guilt-by-association game.
Doubtful that it would come out of the Obama campaign though, who has maintained the high road and not tried to drag guilt by association smear tactics into the fray. Any attack thus far has been against McCains stance on policy, not his character.
Of course, there are many, many more questionable and direct associations that McCain has over his past 26 years in Congress, including ties with Obama Bin Laden himself when he was ‘our friend’. Those who have researched his career know full well what they are, the atrocities that were committed with his blessings, and what they implicate in terms of judgment and character.
However, just the fact that McCain cannot defend his own platform speaks volumes about how he in no way puts country first and is simply in the race to win at any cost. Just look at his ‘honorable’ campaign is and how even fellow friends and former allies are now trying to distance themselves.
Sure, the straight line GOP zealots would rather look the other way, and the rest of the Anti-Obama crowd is just drooling at the mouth trying to find anything to justify their positions and keep from shattering their world view, regardless of how tenuous or absurd.
That is the way in politics for many. Fortunately, for many others, we look at what each candidate represents for the future of this great country and what direction it will take us. McCain would have us continue down that same road to eventual destruction. His does not differ in any significant way from Bush or his policy stance. His tax plan is just a continuation of a tried and failed trickle down plan that has never worked in our nations history and for the last 8 years has led us into recession. His health plan would be a disaster for a nation that is now in the middle of a health crisis, resulting in even more Americans losing coverage. His foreign policy stance would continue us along our existing path of isolation and unilateral decision making practices. His energy policy would simply lengthen our reliance on oil and dump even more money into an infrastructure that we so desperately need to get away from. His short fuse and knee-jerk reactionary persona would put or national security at risk and overburden our already taxed military forces. Maybe back in 2000, when the economy was good, we had a balanced budget and were at peace. But not now.. we cannot afford it.
Obama – for the future of America.

Posted by: Concerned American | October 31, 2008, 2:53 am 2:53 am

This presentation is a must for all morally sound patriotic Americans.
A VIDEO PORTRAIT OF BARAK HUSSEIN OBAMA
http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?RsrcID=2036

Posted by: Natasha | October 31, 2008, 2:53 am 2:53 am

Obama has surrounded himself with a bunch of radicals
Posted by: zeke
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The Boston Herald
It is what it is: Obama allied with scoundrels
Saturday, October 11, 2008
In the best tradition of Bill Clinton’s declaration that the answer to the question of whether he was having an affair depended on “what the definition of is is,” Sen. Barack Obama was clearly concealing the truth when he said that William Ayers was “just a guy who lives in my neighborhood.”
The Ayers-Obama connection was, in fact, an intimate collaboration that it led to the only executive or administrative experience in Obama’s life.
After Walter Annenberg’s foundation offered several hundred million dollars to American public schools in the mid-’90s, Ayers applied for $50 million for Chicago. His purpose was to “raise political consciousness” in schools.
After he won the grant, Ayers’ group chose Obama to distribute the $50 million, and the future senator raised another $60 million from other civic groups to augment it. In doing so, he was following Ayers’ admonition to grant the funds to “external” organizations, like American Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN), to pair with schools and conduct programs to radicalize and politicize the students.
Reading, math and science achievement tests counted for little in the grants, but the school’s success in preaching a radical agenda determined how much money it got.
Obama should have run screaming at the sight of Ayers and his wife, Bernardine Dohrn. Ayers has admitted bombing the U.S. Capitol and the Pentagon, and his wife was imprisoned for failing to cooperate in solving the robbery of a Brink’s car in which two police were killed. Far from remorse, Ayers told The New York Times [NYT], in September 2001, that he wished he “could have done more.” Ayers only avoided conviction when the evidence against him turned out to be contained in illegal wiretaps. He was, in fact, guilty as sin.
So let’s sum up Obama’s Chicago connections. His chief financial supporter was Tony Rezko, now on his way to prison. His spiritual adviser was the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, of “God damn America” fame. And the guy who got him his only administrative job is former terrorist Ayers.
Not a good recommendation for a president.
The Boston Herald
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/opinion/op_ed/view.bg?articleid=1124922

Posted by: Natasha | October 31, 2008, 2:57 am 2:57 am

The left wing liberal media clowns did not report anything about this…
Obama fundraiser, convicted of fraud, spills beans
The Associated Press
By MIKE ROBINSON – Oct 11, 2008
CHICAGO (AP) — Jailed political fundraiser Antoin “Tony” Rezko, the Chicago real estate developer who helped launch Barack Obama on his political career, is whispering secrets to federal prosecutors about corruption in Illinois and the political fallout could be explosive.
Democratic Gov. Rod Blagojevich, whose administration faces multiple federal investigations over how it handed out jobs and money with advice from Rezko, is considered the most vulnerable.
Rezko also was friendly with Obama — offering him a job when he finished law school, funding his earliest political campaigns and purchasing a lot next to his house. But based on the known facts, charges so far and testimony at Rezko’s trial, there’s no indication there’ll be an October surprise that could hurt the Democratic presidential nominee — even though Rezko says prosecutors are pressing him for dirt about Obama.
“I think this strikes fear into the Blagojevich administration and the Statehouse Democrats but not into the Obama campaign,” says state Sen. Kirk Dillard, R-Westmont, a John McCain delegate to the GOP convention but an old friend of Obama.
Rezko, 53, a real estate developer, was convicted in June of scheming to use his clout with the Blagojevich administration to squeeze $7 million in kickbacks out of a contractor and seven money management firms seeking to do business with the state.
Within two months, Rezko was seen in U.S. Attorney Patrick J. Fitzgerald’s office, along with his attorneys.
There has been no official confirmation that Rezko is talking but his sentencing has been postponed indefinitely and both sides say they are going to “engage in discussions that could affect their sentencing postures.”
“They never would have delayed the sentencing if he weren’t talking — it’s proof positive,” said Jay Stewart, executive director of the Better Government Association of Chicago.
In addition, attorneys say federal investigators have been questioning Blagojevich contributions around the state using information that only Rezko could have supplied. Finally, courthouse personnel requesting anonymity because grand jury probes are secret said Rezko has been repeatedly brought from his cell to the U.S. attorney’s office to talk to prosecutors.
Rezko could have a lot to tell. He has raised millions of dollars in campaign money for many Illinois politicians and according to federal prosecutors used his clout to control appointments to state boards.
Obama has sent to charity $159,000 that Rezko raised for his campaigns for the state legislature, the House and the Senate. Rezko raised nothing for Obama’s White House run.
Obama’s name came up in testimony at the trial four times, twice in connection with an obscure legislative memo, as a guest at a Rezko party and when defense attorney Joseph Duffy told jurors his client was a friend of the senator.
None of the witnesses accused the Democratic nominee for president of doing anything improper.
But questions concerning Obama’s relationship with Rezko linger, particularly over Rezko’s role in the purchase of the Obamas’ home.
The two have known each other for years, starting when Rezko offered Obama a job after he graduated from Harvard Law School in 1991. Obama didn’t take it, but a friendship developed.
The men talked politics frequently and occasionally dined together with their wives.
In 2005, the Obamas paid $1.65 million for their home near the University of Chicago. The sellers wanted a parcel they owned next door to sell on the same day, and Rezko’s wife, Rita, was the buyer. At the request of the Obamas, Mrs. Rezko later sold them a 10-foot strip of land to enlarge their lot. They paid $104,500.
The deal took place while Rezko was under investigation and when details of the cozy relationship surfaced, Obama said it was a “bonehead” error to have asked for the additional land because it looked like he was getting a favor.
“I regret it,” Obama said at the time. “I’m going to make sure that from this point on I don’t even come close to the line.”
McCain and vice running mate Sarah Palin have mentioned Rezko little if at all. But Republicans have aired a television ad focusing on Rezko. And McCain aides have repeatedly tweaked their opponent over the real estate deal in e-mails to reporters.
“We’re delighted to have a debate on judgment with Barack Obama, who bought his million-dollar mansion in a shady deal with a convicted felon,” McCain spokesman Brian Rogers said in August.
Blagojevich, meanwhile, got a black eye from the trial.
One witness testified that Blagojevich talked about hiring him for a major state job while his $25,000 donation to the governor’s campaign fund was lying on the table.
Two attorneys testified that Blagojevich hinted that they could get lucrative state contracts if they raised money — possibly for a future White House campaign.
Obama’s name has not surfaced in accounts of the investigation since the trial. But Rezko himself raised it in a letter to the judge months ago.
“Your Honor, the prosecutors have been overzealous in pursuing a crime that never happened,” he wrote. “They are pressuring me to tell them the wrong things that I supposedly know about Gov. Blagojevich and Sen. Barack Obama.”
© 2008 The Associated Press.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hQmszDq4LOiRMcYNSaUdrmvTcB2AD93O8N500

Posted by: Natasha | October 31, 2008, 3:05 am 3:05 am

The tide is turning against Obama. Voters have come to realize that he is a fake. Some people are still fooled by him but many are beginning to open their eyes and see Obama for the trickster that he is.
It is up to all good Americans to come out and vote for John McCain. Get your family and friends and their friends as well to come out and vote for John McCain.
Decent hardworking citizens have to reclaim this country from this African conman and the liberal elite media that blindly supports him.
America first.

Posted by: Demsnever | October 31, 2008, 3:19 am 3:19 am

A vote for Obama is a vote for Bill Ayers and Rashid Khalidi.

Posted by: John Biden | October 31, 2008, 3:21 am 3:21 am

I am very concerned that Obama is a hardcore socialist and wants to spread the wealth as he puts it.
This will chase away our companies and hardworking people to foreign countries.

Posted by: Sally Bull | October 31, 2008, 3:23 am 3:23 am

Christians have to vote for John McCain. To vote for Obama would mean that millions and millions of innocent babies would be killed.
Christians must act now. They have to come out and vote for John McCain. Do not let evil get a foothold in this nation.

Posted by: Christians4McCain | October 31, 2008, 3:25 am 3:25 am

Let us pray that voters will not be taken in the the empty rhetoric of Obama and look at the character of the man. He will do or say anything to get elected.
John McCain is a good and decent man who has given his life in the service of this nation. Let us give the man our support.
McCain/Palin ’08.

Posted by: Christians4McCain | October 31, 2008, 3:27 am 3:27 am

Hey folks ..get out your history books and see who assasined Sen Robt F Kennedy (who was running for Pres of the United States)…the answer is Sirhan Sirhan.
I am sure that by now you too have heard of Barack’s association with and longtime friendship with Bill Ayres. If it weren’t for BIll Ayres Barack wouldn’t have had his political campaign started. BIll helped Barack out alot. BIll’s Dad (Thomas) had a lot of money and was head of a big company (CONED) and Thomas sort of ran Chicaago cuz of his money.
Bill Ayres and his wife and 2 more of their friend wrote a book called Prairie Fire. Rememer me mentioning Sirhan Sirhan. One of the people the book was dedicated to (which means ..given honor to) was Sirhan Sirhan.
That means the man who launched Barack Obama’s political career BIll Ayres was saying “way to go Sirhan Sirhan ” when he dedicated the book to him.
That’s crazy how what goes around comes around.
So … You connect the dots.
Barack’s buddy Bill Ayres (who launched Barack’s political career cuz of the money he had cuz of his father Thomas Ayres) was giving a high five to Sirhan Sirhan the guy who murdered Sen Robt F Kennedy (who at that time was running for Pres of the U.S.)
THAT’s along with why Barack can’t have the LA TIMEs tape released…what he personally said about ISRAEL..
Obama said to rile audience up during toast. He congratulates Khalidi for his work saying “Israel has no God-given right to occupy Palestine” plus there’s been “genocide against the Palestinian people by Israelis.”
It would be really controversial if it got out. Tha’s why they will not even let a transcript get out.

Posted by: goforit999 | October 31, 2008, 3:35 am 3:35 am

Christians4McCain: I totally agree with everything you said! I am a Christian, too, and I’m voting for McCain!

Posted by: carlyonsue | October 31, 2008, 3:45 am 3:45 am

I watched Obama’s program last night. It did absolutely nothing for me! To me it was a complete waste of his time and money! It was even a little boring to me! It didn’t change my mind at all! I made up my mind a long time ago! I’m voting for McCain and Palin!

Posted by: carlyonsue | October 31, 2008, 3:58 am 3:58 am

The pro-Obama liberal elite media has already written off John McCain.
Hussein Muhammad Obama has already prepared his victory speech and spent an enormous amount of money on a victory party.
Meanwhile there were reports that Mr Obama had approached a controversial congressman, Rahm Emanuel, to be his chief of staff when he becomes president.
It would appear that Obama is already counting his chickens.
He has become too cocky and not learn the lessons from the past. It is the people who decide the outcome of the elections and not the liberal elite media.
Let me tell you Mr Obama, it ain”t over till the fat lady sings. The tide is turning against you. People now are opening their eyes to your deception.
John McCain will be the next President of the United States of America and you can take that to the bank.

Posted by: Christians4McCain | October 31, 2008, 4:10 am 4:10 am

I call upon all decent Americans to get down on their knees and pray that the voters of this nation will make the right choice.
Let us pray that no one is gullible enough to be taken in by the empty rhetoric of Mr Hussein Muhammad Obama. His words are sweeter than the serpent on the tree who caused Adam and Eve to turn against GOD.
If evil takes root in this country and millions and millions of innocent babies are slaughtered, it is because good and decent Christians have failed to go out and vote for John McCain.
We owe it to the unborn children of this great nation to go out and vote for John McCain. The man had risked his life for this nation. The least we can do is to go out and cast our vote for him and to get our families and friends to do so as well.
GOD Bless America.

Posted by: Christians4McCain | October 31, 2008, 4:17 am 4:17 am

When the ultra-right wing Christians are for one candidate, then I know I am right to vote for the other candidate.
There is no god and there will be no POTUS McCain.

Posted by: bugg | October 31, 2008, 4:20 am 4:20 am

Obama has only been in the senate for three years but he is the second highest receivers or donation from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
All Recipients of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac Campaign Contributions, 1989-2008 (follow link for complete list)
Dodd, Christopher $165,400
Obama, Barack $126,349
Kerry, John $111,000
McCain, John $21,550
All Recipients of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac Campaign Contributions, 1989-2008
http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/2008/09/18/all-recipients-of-fannie-mae-and-freddie-mac-campaign-contributions-1989-2008/

Posted by: Natasha | October 31, 2008, 4:46 am 4:46 am

I see the crazy has come out again.
Deep breaths, guys.

Posted by: Timely? | October 31, 2008, 4:50 am 4:50 am

Man, these McCain posters are a bunch of windbags. I guess they think the length of their posts will compensate for the lack of substance in their posts.

Posted by: bugg | October 31, 2008, 5:00 am 5:00 am

Here is an article from debka.com, an Israeli publication, which sheds light on what Sen. Biden was talking about when he said that the world would test Sen. Obama:
US intelligence: Iran will be able to build first nuclear bomb by February 2009
DEBKAfile Exclusive Report
October 26, 2008, 11:29 AM (GMT+02:00)
US intelligence’s amended estimate, that Iran will be ready to build its first bomb just one month after the next US president is sworn in, is disclosed by DEBKAfile’s Washington sources as having been relayed as a guideline to the Middle East teams of both presidential candidates, Senators John McCain and Barack Obama.
The information prompted the assertion by Democratic vice presidential nominee Joseph Biden in Seattle Sunday, Oct. 19: “It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy.”
McCain retorted Tuesday, Oct. 21: “America does not need a president that needs to be tested. I’ve been tested. I was aboard the Enterprise off the coast of Cuba. I’ve been there.”)
DEBKAfile’s military sources cite the new US timeline: By late January, 2009, Iran will have accumulated enough low-grade enriched uranium (up to 5%) for its “break-out” to weapons grade (90%) material within a short time. For this, the Iranians have achieved the necessary technology. In February, they can move on to start building their first nuclear bomb.
US intelligence believes Tehran has the personnel, plans and diagrams for a bomb and has been running experiments to this end for the past two years. The UN International Atomic Energy Agency in Vienna last week asked Tehran to clarify recent complex experiments they conducted in detonating nuclear materials for a weapon, but received no answer.
The same US evaluation adds that the Iranian leadership is holding off its go-ahead to start building the bomb until the last minute so as to ward off international pressure to stop at the red line.
This development together with the galloping global economic crisis will force the incoming US president to go straight into decision-making without pause on Day One in the Oval Office. He will have to determine which urgent measures can serve best for keeping a nuclear bomb out of the Islamic republic’s hands – diplomatic or military – and how to proceed if those measures fail.
His knowledge of the challenge colored Sen. Biden’s additional words in Seattle: “Remember I said it standing here if you don’t remember anything else I said. Watch, we’re gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.”
Israel’s political and military leaders also face a tough dilemma that can no longer be put off of whether to strike Iran’s nuclear installations militarily in the next three months between US presidencies before the last window closes, or take a chance on coordination with the next president.
Waiting for the “international community” to do the job of stopping Iran, as urged by governments headed by Ariel Sharon and Ehud Olmert – and strongly advocated Tzipi Livni, foreign minister and would-be prime minister – has been a washout. Iran stands defiantly on the threshold of a nuclear weapon.

Posted by: Fred D. | October 31, 2008, 5:02 am 5:02 am

The US, Israel, India, Pakistan, etc. can have nukes, but Iran cannot? That is absurd.
I would rather everyone get rid of them, but if one can have them, then all can.
Iran is not the nation that has in recent years invaded another country without cause. Its leaders are far more prone to peace than are US leaders. The international wackos reside in Washington.

Posted by: bugg | October 31, 2008, 5:15 am 5:15 am

HaHaHa. Does dumb@ss liberals are spreading their BS again.
Don’t these imbeciles know that the Obama’s aides now want that fake to lower the those empty rhetorics because he has raised peoples’ expectations so high that they expect him to perform miracles for the economy.
If I was a dumb@ss liberal, I wouldn’t consider my life worth living.
Be careful what you ask for. You might just get it.

Posted by: Christians4McCain | October 31, 2008, 5:23 am 5:23 am

The US, Israel, India, Pakistan, etc. can have nukes, but Iran cannot? That is absurd.
I would rather everyone get rid of them, but if one can have them, then all can.
Iran is not the nation that has in recent years invaded another country without cause. Its leaders are far more prone to peace than are US leaders. The international wackos reside in Washington.
Posted by: bugg | Oct 31, 2008 5:15:35 AM
These are typical remarks of a muslim fundamentalist who is angry at the millions of muslim terrorists killed in the war on terror.

Posted by: Demsnever | October 31, 2008, 5:25 am 5:25 am

Iran is not the nation that has in recent years invaded another country without cause. Its leaders are far more prone to peace than are US leaders. The international wackos reside in Washington.
Posted by: bugg | Oct 31, 2008 5:15:35 AM
You must be the biggest nutcase to post here or a radical muslim to say that Iran is better than us. Why are you muslims so dumb???

Posted by: John Biden | October 31, 2008, 5:28 am 5:28 am

bugg – you must be the biggest @sshole here. Someone ought to shaft their rod up your @rse.

Posted by: John Biden | October 31, 2008, 5:29 am 5:29 am

“You must be the biggest nutcase to post here or a radical muslim to say that Iran is better than us.”
I said they are more prone to peace. That is based on actions, not cheap words.

Posted by: bugg | October 31, 2008, 5:30 am 5:30 am

John Biden, yes, I know the truth hurts you. As an American, I too consider it shameful the depths to which the US has sunk.

Posted by: bugg | October 31, 2008, 5:33 am 5:33 am

John Biden:
“Someone ought to shaft their rod up your @rse. ”
Sorry, but I’m straight. These boards are not appropriate places for your cruising.

Posted by: bugg | October 31, 2008, 5:41 am 5:41 am

Roger,
It’s very noble to not want to take from others. It sounds like you are a good person.
Just remember that every time you drive down a road or walk under city lights, those things are built and maintained by taxes that somebody has to pay.
That means that those who pay less taxes or no taxes are sort of taking from those who pay more.
That’s not wrong and nobody should make you feel guilty about that. That’s what a society is about. Building infrastructure, paying for schools, financing the military.
Obama wants to help finance health care to make sure everyone has access to a doctor’s care, or a hospital if needed.
That doesn’t mean he wants to take from someone. Still, somebody has to pay taxes or we would go back to living in the stone age, where only the biggest, meanest brutes would survive – even though their live expectancy would be about 30 years.

Posted by: Paul New man | October 31, 2008, 6:17 am 6:17 am

sorry, life expectancy!

Posted by: Paul New man | October 31, 2008, 6:18 am 6:18 am

Christians4McCain,
“HaHaHa. Does dumb@ss liberals are spreading their BS again.”
Could you run that post through a spelling and grammar checker and try again.
I’d like to understand what you meant but for the life of me I can’t.

Posted by: Paul New man | October 31, 2008, 6:22 am 6:22 am

Fred D.
That was an interesting post.
I too am worried about Iran having nuclear capacity (or nucular, as GWB and Palin would say).
Perhaps Bush, who’s a lame duck president anyway, can launch a number of bunker-busters and destroy the Iranian facilities before leaving office.
It would make the next president’s job a lot easier.

Posted by: Bust'em | October 31, 2008, 6:26 am 6:26 am

Natasha,
Those Fanniemae statistics are BS. No candidate could legally receive that much from a corporation.
These are mostly donations of employes of the corporation.
It would be interesting to see who has received the most donations from, say, the US Military or Haliburton, based on that manner of accounting.

Posted by: Bust'em | October 31, 2008, 6:30 am 6:30 am

Well said, Michelle Angelique. God bless you.

Posted by: Kunle Dare | October 31, 2008, 6:34 am 6:34 am

“Posted by: Michelle Angelique | Oct 30, 2008 5:52:16 PM
Excellent,excellent post.”
Seconded

Posted by: Paul New man | October 31, 2008, 6:40 am 6:40 am

As Michelle Angelique so eloquently pointed out, the polls at this point in time should be at least 70/30 in favor of Obama.
He’s a once-in-a-generation leader. We haven’t had a candidate as inspiring since JFK.
I certainly hope there won’t be a so-called Brady effect, because race is visibly a major factor in keeping the election as close as it is.
This one should be a no-brainer.

Posted by: Paul New man | October 31, 2008, 6:43 am 6:43 am

The Los Angeles Times is refusing to release a videotape that it says shows Barack Obama praising a Chicago professor who was an alleged mouthpiece for the Palestine Liberation Organization while it was a designated terrorist group in the 1970s and ’80s.
According an LA Times article written by Peter Wallsten in April, Obama was a “friend and frequent dinner companion” of Rashid Khalidi, who from 1976 to1982 was reportedly a director of the official Palestinian press agency, WAFA, which was operating in exile from Beirut with the PLO.
Click here to read the original LA Times story: ‘Palestinians See a Friend in Barack Obama.’
In the article — based on the videotape obtained by the Times — Wallsten said Obama addressed an audience during a 2003 farewell dinner for Khalidi, who was Obama’s colleague at the University of Chicago, before his departure for Columbia University in New York. Obama said his many talks with Khalidi and his wife Mona stood as “consistent reminders to me of my own blind spots and my own biases.”

Posted by: Tom Barranger | October 31, 2008, 6:47 am 6:47 am

OBAMA’S MILITANT RACISM REVEALED
In her senior thesis at Princeton , Michele Obama, the wife of Barack Obama
stated that America was a nation founded on ‘crime and hatred’.
Moreover, she stated that whites in America were ‘ineradicably racist’. The
1985 thesis, titled ‘Princeton-Educated Blacks and the Black Community’ was
written under her maiden name, Michelle LaVaughn Robinson.
Michelle Obama stated in her thesis that to ‘Whites at Princeton , it often
seems as if, to them, she will always be Black first…’ However, it was reported
by a fellow black classmate, ‘If those ‘Whites at Princeton ‘ really saw Michelle
as one who always would ‘be Black first,’ it seems that she gave them that
impression’.
Most alarming is Michele Obama’s use of the terms ‘separationist’ and
‘integrationist’ when describing the views of black people.
Mrs. Obama clearly identifies herself with a ‘separationist’ view of race.
‘By actually working with the Black lower class or within their communities as
a result of their ideologies, a separationist may better understand the desperation
of their situation and feel more hopeless about a resolution as opposed to an
integrationist who is ignorant to their plight.’
Obama writes that the path she chose by attending Princeton would likely lead to
her ‘further integration and/or assimilation into a white cultural and social structure
that will only allow me to remain on the periphery of society; never becoming a full
participant.’
Michele Obama clearly has a chip on her shoulder.
Not only does she see separate black and white societies in America , but she elevates black over white in her world.
Here is another passage that is uncomfortable and ominous in meaning:
‘There was no doubt in my mind that as a member of the black
community, I am obligated to this community and will utilize
all of my present and future resources to benefit the black
community first and foremost.’
What is Michelle Obama planning to do with her future resources if she’s first
lady that will elevate black over white in America ?
The following passage appears to be a call to arms for affirmative action
policies that could be the hallmark of an Obama administration.
‘Predominately white universities like Princeton are socially and academically
designed to cater to the needs of the white students comprising the bulk of
their enrollments.’
The conclusion of her thesis is alarming.
Michelle Obama’s poll of black alumni concludes that other black students
at Princeton do not share her obsession with blackness. But rather than
celebrate, she is horrified that black alumni identify with our common
American culture more than they value the color of their skin. ‘I hoped that
these findings would help me conclude that despite the high degree of
identification with whites as a result of the educational and occupational
path that black Princeton alumni follow, the alumni would still maintain a
certain level of identification with the black community. However, these
findings do not support this possibility.’
Is it no wonder that most black alumni ignored her racist questionnaire?
Only 89 students responded out of 400 who were asked for input.
Michelle Obama does not look into a crowd of Obama supporters and see
Americans. She sees black people and white people eternally conflicted
with one another.
The thesis provides a trove of Mrs. Obama’s thoughts and
world view seen through a race-based prism. This is a very
divisive view for a potential first lady that would do untold
damage to race relations in this country in a Barack Obama
administration.
Michelle Obama’s intellectually refined racism should give all
Americans pause for deep concern.
Now maybe she’s changed, but she sure sounds like someone with an axe to
grind with America . Will the press let Michelle get a free pass over her obviously
racist comment about American whites? I am sure that it will.
PS: We paid for her scholarship.

Posted by: Tom Barranger | October 31, 2008, 6:47 am 6:47 am

A 7-year-old radio interview in which Barack Obama discussed the failure of the Supreme Court to rule on redistributing wealth in its civil rights rulings has given fresh ammunition to critics who say the Democratic presidential candidate has a socialist agenda.
The interview — conducted by Chicago Public Radio in 2001, while Obama was an Illinois state senator and a law professor at the University of Chicago — delves into whether the civil rights movement should have gone further than it did, so that when “dispossessed peoples” appealed to the high court on the right to sit at the lunch counter, they should have also appealed for the right to have someone else pay for the meal.
In the interview, Obama said the civil rights movement was victorious in some regards, but failed to create a “redistributive change” in its appeals to the Supreme Court, led at the time by Chief Justice Earl Warren. He suggested that such change should occur at the state legislature level, since the courts did not interpret the U.S. Constitution to permit such change.
“The Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth and sort of basic issues of political and economic justice in this society, and to that extent as radical as people try to characterize the Warren Court, it wasn’t that radical,” Obama said in the interview, a recording of which surfaced on the Internet over the weekend.
“It didn’t break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the founding fathers in the Constitution, at least as it has been interpreted.
“And the Warren court interpreted it generally in the same way — that the Constitution is a document of negative liberties, says what the states can’t do to you, says what the federal government can’t do to you, but it doesn’t say what the federal government or state government must do on your behalf, and that hasn’t shifted.
“And I think one of the tragedies of the civil rights movement was that the civil rights movement became so court-focused, I think there was a tendency to lose track of the political and organizing activities on the ground that are able to bring about the coalitions of power through which you bring about redistributive change, and in some ways we still suffer from that,” Obama said.
The 2001 interview evokes recent questioning by Joe “The Plumber” Wurzelbacher, the Ohio man who asked Obama about his proposal to raise taxes on people making more than $250,000. Obama told Wurzelbacher he wants to hike taxes on the wealthy so that the government can spread the wealth.
Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton said Monday the comments on the tape have “nothing to do with Obama’s economic plan or his plan to give the middle class a tax cut.”
“Here are the facts. In the interview, Obama went into extensive detail to explain why the courts should not get into that business of ‘redistributing’ wealth. Obama’s point — and what he called a tragedy — was that legal victories in the civil rights led too many people to rely on the courts to change society for the better. That view is shared by conservative judges and legal scholars across the country,” Burton said..
“As Obama has said before and written about, he believes that change comes from the bottom up — not from the corridors of Washington. … And so Obama’s point was simply that if we want to improve economic conditions for people in this country, we should do so by bringing people together at the community level and getting everyone involved in our democratic process,” Burton continued.
John McCain’s campaign said the tape proves that Obama is too liberal for the White House.
Now we know that the slogans ‘change you can believe in’ and ‘change we need’ are code words for Barack Obama’s ultimate goal: ‘redistributive change,’” said McCain-Palin senior policy adviser Doug Holtz-Eakin.
“Barack Obama expressed his regret that the Supreme Court hadn’t been more ‘radical’ and described as a ‘tragedy’ the court’s refusal to take up ‘the issues of redistribution of wealth.’ No wonder he wants to appoint judges that legislate from the bench,” Holtz-Eakin continued.
National Review reporter Byron York, a FOX News contributor, said the U.S. government already has a progressive tax system that gives money earned by one group to another group, but it’s a matter of degree. He added that Obama’s outlook on that system hasn’t changed.
“It seems clear from listening to this that the Obama of 2001 and probably the Obama of today feels that the government doesn’t do that enough, and I think that’s probably the big point in this tape,” York said.
“You’ve got to take him at his word,” York added. “It seems to me that the tape shows that this is simply a goal he has had for a long time.”
In a speech in Cleveland on Monday, McCain said the Obama interview is just another indication that the Democrat wants to increase sharply the amount of government spending.
“Today, he claims he will only tax the rich. But we’ve seen in the past that he’s willing to support taxes that hit people squarely in the middle class, and with a trillion dollars in new spending, the most likely outcome is that everyone who pays taxes will be paying for his spending,” McCain said.

Posted by: Tom Barranger | October 31, 2008, 6:48 am 6:48 am

Tom Barranger,
Did I miss something? Is Michelle Obama running for office?
If we’re voting based on the wives, there would be a lot of interesting things to say about the millionaire Cindy McPill.

Posted by: Paul New man | October 31, 2008, 6:50 am 6:50 am

Tom Barranger,
“A 7-year-old radio interview in which Barack Obama discussed the failure of the Supreme Court to rule on redistributing wealth in its civil rights rulings has given fresh ammunition ”
Don’t you see the irony in this sentence?
A 7-year-old anything is “fresh ammunition”?
Who are you going to shoot with that kind of ammo? It will almost certainly be a dud.

Posted by: Paul New man | October 31, 2008, 6:53 am 6:53 am

Tom Barranger,
Hmmm. Since Khalida is such a bad guy, what would you call an organisation which sent him $450,000 to finance his operations?
And what would you call the chairman of the board of the company that sent the money?

Posted by: Paul New man | October 31, 2008, 6:57 am 6:57 am

Answers
International Republican Institute
John McCain

Posted by: Paul New man | October 31, 2008, 7:08 am 7:08 am

Does that mean that the IRI should be on the US watchlist for organisations funding terrorist entities?
And where would that place John McCain?
My point is, you are just a far-right scaremonger. Your posts are void of any intelligence and that type of missinformation should have no bearing on this election.
Unfortunately, if you throw enough .hit at the wall, some will stick.

Posted by: Paul New man | October 31, 2008, 7:11 am 7:11 am

Well?

Posted by: Paul New man | October 31, 2008, 7:11 am 7:11 am

The best estimates show that Obama spent $5,000,000.00 on his 30 minute infomercial playing the POTUS.. WOW for 30 minutes that is what he chooses to spend money on pretending to be in the OVAL office. DID he have the fake Obama presidential seal on the podium again??
Arrogant.

Posted by: amazed801 | October 31, 2008, 7:12 am 7:12 am

“A question of perspective :Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin, what if things were switched around? Think about it. Would the country’s collective point of view be different? Could racism be the culprit?
Ponder the following: What if the Obama’s had paraded five children across the stage, including a three-month-old infant and an unwed, pregnant teenage daughter? What if John McCain was a former president of the Harvard Law Review?• What if Barack Obama finished fifth from the bottom of his graduating class?• What if McCain had only married once, and Obama was a divorcee?• What if Obama was the candidate who left his first wife after a severe disfiguring car accident, when she no longer measured up to his standards?• What if Obama had met his second wife in a bar and had a long affair while he was still married? • What if Michelle Obama was the wife who not only became addicted to painkillers but also acquired them illegally through her charitable organization?• What if Cindy McCain graduated from Harvard?• What if Obama had been a member of the Keating Five? (The Keating Five were 5 US Senators accused of corruption in 1989, igniting a major political scandal as part of the larger Savings and Loan crisis of the late 1980s and early 1990s.)• What if McCain was a charismatic, eloquent speaker?• What if Obama couldn’t read from a teleprompter?• What if Obama was the one who had military experience that included discipline problems and a record of crashing seven planes?• What if Obama was the one who was known to display publicly, on many occasions, a serious anger management problem?• What if Michelle Obama’s family had made their money from beer distribution?• What if the Obama’s had adopted a white child?• You could easily add to this list. If these questions reflected reality, do you really believe the election numbers would be as close as they are? This is what racism does. It covers up, rationalizes and minimizes positive qualities in one candidate and emphasizes negative qualities in another when there is a color difference.
EDUCATION BACKGROUND:• Barack Obama: Columbia University – B.A. Political Science with a Specialization in International Relations. * Harvard – Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude / Joseph Biden: *University of Delaware – B.A. in History and B.A. in Political Science. *Syracuse University College of Law – Juris Doctor (J.D.) vs. • John McCain: *United States Naval Academy – Class rank: 894 of 899 / Sarah Palin: * Hawaii Pacific University – 1 semester *North Idaho College – 2 semesters – general study * University of Idaho – 2 semesters – journalism *Matanuska-Susitna College – 1 semester *University of Idaho – 3 semesters – B.A. in Journalism.
Education isn’t everything, but this is about the two highest offices in the land as well as our standing in the world. You make the call.”
Wow this is the best comment I have heard here so far.

Posted by: TruthHurts | October 31, 2008, 7:24 am 7:24 am

Obviously he doesn’t mind taking your money and giving it to others–
Today on my way to lunch I passed a homeless guy with a sign that read Vote Obama, I need the money. —— I laughed——-. Once in the restaurant my server had on a Obama 08 tie, again—– I laughed —–as he had given away his political preference–just imagine the coincidence. When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept.— He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone who I deemed more in need–the homeless guy outside. The server angrily stormed from my sight. I went outside, gave the homeless guy $10 and told him to thank the server inside as I’ve decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was grateful. At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he earned even though the actual recipient deserved money more. I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application.

Posted by: amazed801 | October 31, 2008, 7:24 am 7:24 am

amazed801
If you’re giving out $10 tips for lunch, you can obviously afford to redistribute a little.
I’ve got a restaurant and I’m sure I could find a McCain tie.
What are you doing for breakfast?

Posted by: Paul New man | October 31, 2008, 7:28 am 7:28 am

Lou | Oct 30, 2008 5:50:24 PM: Please tell where Obama has stated or anyone of his important constituents have stated that you will have to pay more taxes if you make anything less the 250K. Stop speculating that which you have been brainwashed with by the right wing propaganda machine. Get a clue, man, Obama is much better for you then McCain. He will help bring this nation back together again. McCain will be just as divisive as Bush has been and just as supportive of big business which take much more money away from you then the government ever could. Think about it. The balance between what the few rich and powerful are getting in return for what they take from you should be a big fat yes vote for Obama.

Posted by: dlboggan | October 31, 2008, 7:38 am 7:38 am

I am a Obama supporter I have been for 2 years,I now campaign for him I walk ,call, e- mail, you name it anything for the Big change that will take place when he’s elected.For the future of this country and for your kids and grandkids VOTE BARACK NOV 4TH

Posted by: seer1 | October 31, 2008, 7:43 am 7:43 am

The hypocrisy of McCain and his supporters is beyond pale:! *************
(1) They question the American citizenship of Obama because his father was Kenyan, even though his mother is a white woman from Kansas and he was born in Hawaii!!————YET John McCain who was born in Panama!! is without question?
**************
(2) Obama makes a reference about spreading the wealth and it’s socialism?————YET Sarah Palin boasts about spreading the oil company wealth inAlaska?
******************
(3) They question Obama’s attendance at a party for a Palestinian American————-YET John McCain chaired a board that gave half a million dollar in grants to the same Palestinian-American’s foundation? *************************
(4) They say Obama pals around with an anti-American terrosist because he was appointed to a board that had Bill Ayers on it————YET John McCain is friends with a convicted fellon Gordon Liddy AND Sarah Palin pals around with a husband who is a member of a secessionist party in Alaska that says “damn America”? *********************** (5) Sarah Palin is marketed as the “everyday” hockey-mom, joe six pack’s girlfriend ————- YET she spends 150,000 dollars on dresses and make-up AND buys her 7-year old daughter a $7000 Gucci bag?? **********************
I could go on and on ……………. ******************
The saying goes “Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. AMERICA WAS FOOLED ONCE BY THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WITH GEORGE W BUSH ! SHAME ON US IF WE LET OURSELVES BE FOOLED BY MCCAIN-PALIN

Posted by: Joe the Plumber | October 31, 2008, 7:45 am 7:45 am

Obama, next “President The United States”

Posted by: Demo Rules | October 31, 2008, 7:49 am 7:49 am

Update America:
We can’t vote for a person that keeps telling the same lie over and over again. The Democrats have had control of congress for two years and they have not CHANGED anything. Bush for 8 years minus Democrat Congress for 2 years equals 6 years. Obama, that equals 6 years NOT 8 years.
Biden says the ExxonMobil 14.8 billion dollars in profit for the 3rd quarter should go to the people. That means that big oil will not have money to continue operations. It is time to invest in bicycles. That also sounds like nationalization or socialism.
The Democrats are making the same empty promises that we know that Obama can’t keep.
The Associated Press watched it, and surprisingly, the 30-minute infomercial also failed to impress them:
“Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama was LESS THAN UPFRONT in his half-hour commercial Wednesday night about the costs of his programs and the crushing budget pressures he would face in office.
Obama’s assertion that “I’ve offered spending cuts above and beyond” the expense of his promises is accepted ONLY by his partisans. His vow to save money by “eliminating programs that don’t work” masks his FAILURE throughout the campaign to specify what those programs are – beyond the withdrawal of troops from Iraq.”
Calvin Woodward reports that Obama misled viewers on at least five key points in his 30-minute final argument:
–Health care costs – Obama claimed his plan would lower costs by $2500 per year per family, but it DOES NOT. In fact, Obama can’t point to any particular cost reductions. He plans to spend $50 billion over five years on modernization and chronic-disease prevention and presumes that this will lower costs in the future, but in the meantime it RAISES COSTS at least in the short run on everyone (the $50 billion doesn’t come out of thin air).
–The Pay-Go of his plans – NO, he hasn’t demonstrated that he’s found the revenue for his spending, despite his claims last night. Non-partisan analysts believe that his spending programs will ADD at least $428 billion to the DEFICIT in his first term, and that’s if you accept his non-specific pledge to cut spending in other areas.
–Tax cuts for working class families – Before the commercial aired, he had already begun BACKING AWAY from that idea because of the financial crisis, although Obama didn’t acknowledge it in the ad.
–The “right” to affordable health care – Obama DOES NOT guarantee coverage in any of his plans, at least not for adults.
–Getting out of Iraq – Obama noted that the US spends $10 billion a month in Iraq and talked again about “bringing that war to a close” — but he’s BACKED AWAY from his previous pledges to get out on a strict 16-month timetable, which is as fast as the remaining units can be properly withdrawn.
No to the Democrat liars.
Update America does not respond to any Obama supporters without credentials.

Posted by: Update America | October 31, 2008, 7:49 am 7:49 am

My job went overseas as well as 300 of my co-workers.Our jobs went to a country that you and I as taxpayers send American monies there plus our jobs.When it came time to vote for unemployment extensions mcsame voted NO each time,but voted to send 162 billion dollars to a war built on lies.On the other hand Barack voted yes for the extensions as did every Democrate in office.The repukelicans vote the way bushman wanted them to NO.So now people you tell me who will take care of the Americans in this time of need,the democrates or repukelicans?

Posted by: seer1 | October 31, 2008, 7:50 am 7:50 am

Update America:
Many big company plants closed and Dana Corporation lost jobs to Canada. The Dana Reading, Pennsylvania plant closed because the union wages and benefits were the direct cause of jobs going to Canada. The people of Canada welcomed the Dana Corporation jobs from America. Dana Corporation finally emerged from bankruptcy. Guess what? Their Korean plant is doing fine. The huge property that once belong to Dana Corporation in Reading, Pennsylvania is for sale with Dana never to return from Korea or any other foreign country.
Thank You Unions for Not Supporting American Jobs. Obama supports unions for all America.

Posted by: Update America | October 31, 2008, 7:58 am 7:58 am

One other point for mcsame to connect Barack to ayers was wrong,wrong,wrong.Mcsame himself has a indirect connection to ayers that no one talks about.The widow of Annenberg,who gave money to ayers for that educational project,also gave money to mcsame because she supports him for president,ummmmmm no one talks or wrote about that one.

Posted by: seer1 | October 31, 2008, 8:04 am 8:04 am

Update America:
On January 27, 2008, RezkoWatch posted an article about Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.)’s Illinois senatorial district which included eleven buildings of slum housing belonging to indicted political fixer Antoin “Tony” Rezko, Obama’s political patron. On March, 12, 2008, SusanUnPC (aka susanhu) posted the excellent article “Irrefutable Proof That Obama’s Own District Was Home to 11 Rezko Foreclosed Properties” at MyDD.
http://rezkowatch.blogspot.com/2008/03/follow-money-more-on-rezkos-slum.html
Georgian mansion of Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) where he has resided since June 2005.

Posted by: Update America | October 31, 2008, 8:12 am 8:12 am

Obama’s infomercial cost–$166,666.67 per minute!!! Per minute!!! It does make sense though since he sends his children to a private school that charges a tuition of $19,000.00 per child per year. Per child!! Per year!!
Arrogant

Posted by: amazed801 | October 31, 2008, 8:12 am 8:12 am

To update america:I am talking about unemployment extensions for American workers!The repukelicans voted NO,while the democrates voted YES!My job is gone nothing I can do about that,but there is something Washington can do to help out people who lost their jobs because of outsourcing and the democrates did!The repukelicans kept spending,spending,spending on a war built on lies.They built a brand new zoo in Bagdad (WITH AMERICAN TAXPAYERS MONEY)but could’nt vote YES to extend unemployment benefits?

Posted by: seer1 | October 31, 2008, 8:14 am 8:14 am

Bill Thompson, a pioneer in direct response marketing who advised Perot in his presidential bid
Thompson quote “He needed to make himself look totally white,” he said, adding Obama should have acknowledged that even though his skin is slightly darker, he’s still a regular human being.
“It’s going to come down to whether the average Joe or Jane accepts Barack Obama as an African American or a human being,” he said.
WHAT THE HELL IS UP WITH HIM?

Posted by: watching | October 31, 2008, 8:15 am 8:15 am

dlboggan asks–”Please tell where Obama has stated or anyone of his important constituents have stated that you will have to pay more taxes if you make anything less the 250K.” —————
JOE BIDEN–”$150,000.00″

Posted by: amazed801 | October 31, 2008, 8:18 am 8:18 am

We can all dig up crap,but the question is,is it the truth?What I write is true.VOTE BARACK NOV4TH

Posted by: seer1 | October 31, 2008, 8:19 am 8:19 am

Update America:
Facts that Obama and his supporters keep telling.
Obama has created misdirection by claiming it is rich Americans that cause our financial crisis. In reality, the Democrats are the direct cause of the financial crisis and the economic meltdown. Without the rich Americans, there would have never been a Middle Class, there would only be rich and poor.
Now, Obama makes promises that anyone can look through like a pane of clear glass. Obama does not have the power or funds to complete any of his programs and he knows that. What cause the 10 trillion dollar worldwide financial crisis is well documented.
There is footage of Sen. Schumer and Rep. Frank rambling against regulation on Fannie and Freddie? Truth hurts. You know why the Democrats were for the unabated operation of Fannie and Freddie. It allowed for more funding for banks to issue loans to ‘victims’ that did not have the ability to make their mortgage payments, in the event of an unexpected setback (like rising food prices). The other thing that it allowed was to allow the banks that made those loans to sell them and it allowed Fannie and Freddie to package them with other loans and sell them around and around. It worked fine until people stopped paying the mortgages. The Democrats were the main obstacles to reigning in the GSEs. This is fact not reported by Ms. Couric, and Mr. Gibson or the left wing think tanks.
Democrats fervently opposed reigning in Fannie and Freddie because they believed that they effectively created homeownership for those that would not have had access to the same without their existence.
Obama’s role was to take no action even when it was brought to his attention by the Bush administration. Acorn was protesting in local banks, bullying them, under auspices of the CRA to make home loans to ‘victims’ that could not afford the terms of the loans they wanted the bank to make. The banks were threatened with a LAWSUIT, if the did not make a loan. It is not the shame of the banks; it is the shame of Obama and the Democrats.
Now Democrats are implying that because Bush and McCain received campaign contributions that they are also responsible.
Democrats are completely responsible for the financial crisis that is totaling $10,000,000,000,000 and counting. Moreover, Obama received more campaign contributions from Freddie and Fannie then both Bush and McCain.
The Jimmy Carter and Clinton administrations are the DIRECT CAUSE and NOTHING ELSE that forced the banks under threat of a LAWSUIT to make loans to persons without sufficient funds to repay. That is how the LAW reads.
In addition: The Democrats had control of the congress for two years and it is business as usual. NO CHANGE from Obama or Democrats. That is 8 years – 2 years equals 6 years. The Democrats do not know simple math. There is no way the Democrats can run the United States.
Update America does not respond to any Obama supporters without credentials.

Posted by: Update America | October 31, 2008, 8:21 am 8:21 am

American taxpayers building up a country that the bushman destroyed.Chenny and his cronies making blood money from the lives of beautiful young women and men for WHAT!Bushman and chenny will be forgotten in the history books.

Posted by: seer1 | October 31, 2008, 8:26 am 8:26 am

ANYBODY NEW TO THIS BOARD: KNOW THIS: You will see the SAME posters here EVERYDAY spouting the same lies about Obama – hidden behind multiple screen names. Even though regular posters here answer their dumb questions, debunk their lies and call them out on their fairy tales – they show up and start all over every morning. PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE POSERS HIDING BEHIND THE SCREEN (names). They are angry, old, impotent, geezers – probably paid per/post. If you want good unbiased information – go to one of the good websites that check the facts. Have a great day!

Posted by: lily | October 31, 2008, 8:32 am 8:32 am

Here are the top reasons to vote for Barack Obama..
http://www.middleofright.com/2008/10/top-reasons-to-vote-for-obama.html

Posted by: Michael | October 31, 2008, 8:43 am 8:43 am

The part I really liked was when the light beamed down from the heavens as the messiah raised his arms skyward. I had goose bumps all over my body but then just at that moment my dog let out a fowl odor and ruined it all. The inspiration was gone in a split second.

Posted by: Billy Bob | October 31, 2008, 8:45 am 8:45 am

lily,
You’re right.
Unfortunately, there are very few articulate contributors to this list who support McCain. Unfortunate, to the extent that at least we could have an interesting and informed discussion.
These people who keep reciting the Republican littany of fear have nothing intelligent to say (assuming there are _real_ people behind the posts).
Most people have made up their minds by now. Maybe there are a few undecided voters here. I assume they’ll be turned off by the idiotic posts of the fear mongers racists.

Posted by: Paul New man | October 31, 2008, 8:56 am 8:56 am

Just the facts please—
“Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., was the most liberal senator in 2007, according to National Journal’s 27th annual vote ratings. The insurgent presidential candidate shifted further to the left last year in the run-up to the primaries, after ranking as the 16th- and 10th-most-liberal during his first two years in the Senate.”

Posted by: amazed801 | October 31, 2008, 8:58 am 8:58 am

Barak Obama got good ratings for his “commercial” because it was a good commercial. I watched it and I was surprised that it was over so quickly. It was easily understandable, the stories were real, and the message was true. He clearly explained his tax plan so even a goldfish could get it, so all this going back and forth about it seems pretty trivial. The bottom line is can the country take four more years of the same economic policies and the answer is NO. And McCain promises four more years of the same basic economic policies. His health care plan will actually raise taxes on the middle class and the tax credit will not be enough to offset the cost of health care which well exceeds $5,000 a year, as well as the amount to be taxed. The McCain campaign has and will continue to drive home dirty politics instead of policies because they can’t win on policies. They can only win on lies and smear tactics. They’ve even admitted as much. It just doesn’t make a case for election of a republican ticket. Obama is the voice of real change and has the policies to back it up. Everything else is just so much blather.

Posted by: Julez39 | October 31, 2008, 9:00 am 9:00 am

Intelligent people discuss facts not other people.

Posted by: amazed801 | October 31, 2008, 9:01 am 9:01 am

The commercial is worthy of an emmy. It was well written and scripted. It told a story and got across a message of ‘vote for me’. It reminds me of the movie wag the dog. It is all in the presentation with no real substance.

Posted by: James | October 31, 2008, 9:19 am 9:19 am

amazed801,
How would you define a personal as being liberal?
Is being liberal bad for the country, per se?
Can it be dangerous to you health?
Isn’t it just a label that right-wingers (label too) use to indentify people who aren’t right-wingers?
If so, then an organization which identifies Obama as being a liberal is doing a service to anyone who isn’t a right-winger: It simplifies our choice.

Posted by: Paul New man | October 31, 2008, 9:22 am 9:22 am

oops person

Posted by: Paul New man | October 31, 2008, 9:26 am 9:26 am

James,
The commercial was certainly well done. “No real substance”. I find that harsh but that’s your view so I’ll respect it.
Still, don’t you think that in this race, in general, Obama has been more on-topic than McCain?
It seems like he’s at least addressing the issues which are important to the country. Perhaps he doesn’t have all the specific answers. At least he has most of the right questions.
McCain and Palin tire me with questions like “who is Barack Obama?”.
What’s the point?
What are the important choices facing the country today?

Posted by: Paul New man | October 31, 2008, 9:38 am 9:38 am

I’m always amazed at the conservatives who whine and groan about somebody “taking something from them”, yet they don’t blink when the freakin pentagon wastes tens of billions on weapons systems that don’t work or arent’ needed or when mining companies get billions of free land usage rights from them…the hypocrisy overwhelms me.

Posted by: Aryan | October 31, 2008, 9:58 am 9:58 am

Alex H. Your four points are way off… If they are true, give me a decent unbias website you got that garbage from. Your feelings about this tax hike seems to be based on false accusations. Not everyone who go’s to college does drugs. Plus the economy is falling because people can’t buy nothing, in particular, middle class, thus freeing up the responsibility of the middle class to support this country as the upper class people take their money and support other countries by putting their profits overseas, will allow money to flow freely into small businesses and get the housing market to jump start since middle class people could afford things now.
You also have to take in consideration that the tax hike before Bush, was 39% and now it is 36% for the rich. Between those times, we came to a realization that that was a mistake on top of the deregulation of the market. Obama is thinking for the people and if you don’t believe he is, then vote for McCain who thinks that the businesses are the change for our country when all businesses are about one thing, making their pockets fatter and not caring for the people.

Posted by: Henry Fulcher | October 31, 2008, 10:04 am 10:04 am

The sudden financial crisis and the prospect of a deep and painful recession have increased the urgency inside the Obama team to bring people down to earth, after a campaign in which his soaring rhetoric and promises of “hope” and “change” are now confronted with the reality of a stricken economy.
One senior adviser told The Times that the first few weeks of the transition, immediately after the election, were critical, “so there’s not a vast mood swing from exhilaration and euphoria to despair.”
HEELO OBAMA FANS! This is your candidate already gearing up to let you down. If it wasn’t so sad, it’d be funny!

Posted by: Mizpanda | October 31, 2008, 10:21 am 10:21 am

Spread the wealth around.
BO may have used those
words to communicate with
Joe the Flimflammer.
As for the tax hike to those
making more than 250K the
upper limit will go 39.6
percent of the Clinton
years from the current
36 percent Bush charges.
95 percent of working Americans
will get a tax cut including
retired seniors on social
security.
The occupation of Iraq will
end along with its 10 billion
monthly expense.
Middle East oil will be a
thing of the past in about
ten years or so.
Joe the Plumber would have
found all the tax proposals
to help the middle and the
working class – including
people like himself – too
difficult to understand.
BO, falsely believing that
Joe the Plumber is a
hardworking man about to
buy a 250K plus plumbing
business, tried to appeal
to the skinhead’s conscience,
by asking him to look back
to the days on his way up
when he himself would have
appreciated tax breaks so he
could attain his present
status of being able to
become the owner of a small
company.

Posted by: anon | October 31, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am

Posted by: moosedog | Oct 30, 2008 5:50:11 PM
Hmmmmmmmm….that’s great!
It’s interesting that now the MESSIAH is telling his supporters to not get to excited because he CAN”T get the economy back on track.
That’s why he wanted all of you to vote early….so he could come out and tell the country before the election that hmmmm.. HE CAN”T DO IT!!! He wants to tell you now so you don’t send a lynch mob after him after the election.
How’s that for your Messiah? He is a joke.

Posted by: Don't drink the koolaid | October 31, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am

I think the comment by Michelle Angelique is brilliant and insightful I have copied it and I am sharing it with many of my friends, both R’s and D’s. Thank you for making me think.

Posted by: Suse | October 31, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am

Not buying barrack.
Money could be well spend helping the less fortunate……..liked you always preached.
But then again, you’re never a man of your word.

Posted by: USA-No1 | October 31, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am

McCain and Palin tire me with questions like “who is Barack Obama?”.
Posted by: Paul New man
————————–
Here’s an anology to help you understand:
Would you let a child molester watch your kids? Don’t you want to know something about the person before you entrusted them with your children?

Posted by: USA-No1 | October 31, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am

Its funny.Reading all the blogs, the repubs sound so negative and angry just like McCain. The dems sounds so upbeat and positive like Obama. I am voting for Obama simply because he is a better decision-maker than McCain. Sarah Palin,you gotta be kinding me!

Posted by: Independent | October 31, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am

This is a tale of two Americas where one only white Americans get to have the American dream and others get scraps to nothing. How about this and i pose this to all you rebuplicans. Since everyone is so up in arms about “redistributing the wealth” per say lets do this. Have a flat tax. every one pay a certain percent on what they make. That would be fair but you know what your answer would be . You wouldn’t want it. Because under these tax laws you meaning rich propotionately dont pay according to what you make because of loopholes and other ways of lying and deciet. So before you start talking about socialism that all this society has been masked as capitalism. It is ruled by one might spirit greed. Where the rich mostly white mostly covertly racist dont want to see anyone else prosper,but scream if you work and pull yourself up by your bootstraps you will succeed. whats missing is one major problem they make sure you have no boots so you cant pull yourself up. That is why when a black man drives in a s class ,bently or any high end car you get those looks. thats why police pull you over because they are conditioned to believe your not supposed to have nothing.Well guess what it is time to pay the piper. Here what the fear is really about not the money. It is about the playing field where the game of success has been always tilted so that ignorant, non-creative, uneducated whites who can have a house, big trucks with all the whistles parked out side without a high school diploma will now have to fend for them selves on and even field. that even though slanted Blacks, Hispanics, Jews, and Indians have over came now have a chance to CHANGE THE GAME.

Posted by: andrew | October 31, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am

We lost the chance of a democratic presidency when the idiots put Sen. Hillary Clinton out of the race. Too bad!
Now we are stuck with an inexperienced politician whose past and present close friendships with hateful anti-American people will be a major factor in the voting booth. It saddens me to do it, but I will be voting for the Republican ticket on November 4.
At least, in my own opinion, John McCain is a true American who will never compromise the values and security of our great nation.
We need a president who is and has always been proud of USA and who, under no circumstances, belittles or bad-mouths my country as Obama, his wife, and his pastor do.
We need a president –democrat or republican– who is a tested leader and who instills American greatness and pride in our children. That leader is John McCain.
I will never vote for a shady and an inexperienced politician like Obama just for the sake of party loyalty. Party loyalty went out of the doors when the democratic party leaders kicked out our candidate, Hillary Rodham Clinton, and replaced her with Barack Hussein Obama. It was a stupid thing to do for them but, at least, we have a good alternative in John McCain.

Posted by: Salisbury | October 31, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am

Fact Check:
CBS, NBC, and Fox forced their viewers
to watch the infomercial!
The more important stat is how many
people stayed with the program til
the end.

Posted by: reaganfan | October 31, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm

Sad, that we don’t learn from history.
Ecconomic crisis, caressmatic speaker, (who tells everyone what the like to hear), big crowds, etc.etc.etc.

Posted by: USAfirst | October 31, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm

Nice POST on Capitalism and trickle down economics!
Old Crumudgeon:
Nice to hear you have lots of money to try and influence the election in November. Unfortunately, in this Democracy, people cast votes – not dollars! With Obama gaining new individual voter enthusiasm, there’s a little thing called Mo, as in Momentum. Time for a Capitalism Tune Up, folks. The Republicans represent people of privilege. You like your ludicrously excess wealth and want to keep it that way, The Republican administrations have made serious blunders over the past decades. Chief among them is believing in the myth of “trickle down” economics. This relies on the premise that “Rich people know best and will spend their money to lift the American economy”. What they missed was that in a period of accelerating globalization, their “trickle down” sprung a leak and became “trickle over”, as in, trickle over somewhere else. Money makes money, and it chases lowest cost production to maximize profits. The tax breaks for the rich ended up only partially benefiting the American people, The balance essentially fueled multiple capitalist bubbles Worldwide. This mis-guided policy was good in intent, but failed in execution. We financed China’s economic explosion, and now they own us! Time to re-balance fundamental values. Instead of compensating people based on how much money they have, they will be compensated based on how much energy they produce – as in “How many Joules did you generate today”? People of privilege don’t generate energy – they consume it. Only farmers, miners, drillers, & “processors” generate energy. Government employees, lawyers, stock traders, and all the rest of us service folks consume energy. Capitalism rewards production, but it has become twisted by the Republicans to also reward financial manipulation, for their own benefit. Increased economic inequality within our society has been the result. Instead of CEOs receiving 1,000 times minimum wage rate, maybe just 100 times minimum wage rate will have to do, to reward them for their management of risk. I trust Barack Obama to lead us into this economic transformation. He is intelligent and knows how to listen and work with people. These are two traits that Republican reactionaries (McCain=Palin=Bush) lack. I would entrust him to oversee this fundamental re-distribution of wealth within our society. It’s still capitalism (reward production), just a more balanced version of it.
Posted by: edwidder | Sep 14, 2008 10:55:10 AM

Posted by: dlboggan | October 31, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm

Very nice after election prediction about die-hard republicans:
On November 5, 2008..you will wake up knowing that the United States has elected the first president of color in our history. It won’t matter who the right wing bigots have thrown at him, Palin will be back in Alaska trying to explain to the citizens of Alaska why she abused her power and why she let her husband Todd be an unelected co-governor and run a shadow government, and at long last John McCain can join some of his lobbyist friends in the private sector and try without success to lobby the new ethics reformed Democratic congress.
Some of you haters will blow a gasket and threaten to leave the country because you can’t abide being under an Obama administration, and some of you will stop watching reality television and Fox news and actually get an education so that you can stop being duped by the extremes of your party. Some of you will continue to make yourselves sick as you wallow in your bigotry and racism, and some of you will raise your children with the new incentives and tax breaks that you have been wanting and needing, some of you will continue to listen to Rush while he plows himself with drugs, booze and Viagra and lives behind his compound while making a fortune off of naive and gullible listeners, and some of you will learn the new technology and get good paying green jobs. Some of you will sit alone at your computer and continue to spew lies about our new president, and some of you will join a community organization and work block by block, neighborhood by neighborhood to make this a better country. And finally, some of you will go off to the loony bin and keep repeating over and over again…
“Rezko, Ayers, Wright…Rezko, Ayers, Wright…Rezko, Ayers, Wright…while the rest of us celebrate getting our country back. But, at least you will have good health insurance, because our president, President Barack Obama will take care of you too! Ain’t life grand?
Posted by: Marie | Sep 14, 2008 3:12:29 PM

Posted by: dlboggan | October 31, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm

I do support Obama and am proud of it. I am an American who cares enough about my Country, which is supposed to be for the people, by the people and of the people and not about International Corporatists, neocons and people who want to control what you think, do, buy or work at. OBAMA is for the Country and the people. McCain is corporate and neocon sponsored, as exhibited by his extreme use of former corporatists and lobbyists managing and advising his campaign. Sarah Palin is being heavily managed and controlled by former Bush administration people.
It’s true: Seven top McCain officials were lobbyists, though the campaign stresses that none is currently registered to lobby Congress:
• One: Campaign manager Rick Davis is a major telecommunications lobbyist.
• Two: Senior foreign policy adviser Randy Scheunemann recently faced scrutiny over his foreign lobbying on behalf of the Republic of Georgia, which has been embroiled in a military conflict with Russia.
• Three: Senior adviser Charlie Black was a foreign lobbyist for dictators in Zaire and Angola in the 1980s, fodder for the liberal group MoveOn.org.
One of the group’s recent ads charged, “Charlie Black said he didn’t do anything wrong. John McCain should tell Black he did. Call John McCain and tell him to fire Charlie Black.”
• Four: Frank Donatelli, the Republican National Committee’s liaison to the McCain campaign, has had clients including Exxon Mobil.
• Five: Economic adviser Nancy Pfotenhauer has lobbied for corporate giants like Koch Industries.
“Both John McCain and Sarah Palin have challenged special interests, challenged their own party. That’s the test of courage,” Pfotenhauer has said.
• The final two lobbyists are McCain’s congressional liaison, John Green, and national finance Co-chairman Wayne Berman. They both lobbied for Fannie Mae, the troubled mortgage giant.
And let’s not forget Carly Fiorina, McCain’s Financial advisor and HP’s former CEO who was fired for poor performance but still walked away with a multi-million golden parachute. Did she not say that the Palin/McCain camp could never run a corporation?

Posted by: dlboggan | October 31, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm

Mizpanda: And I wonder if the realities after the campagn would be any different for McCain then they are going to be for Obama. Get a clue “my friend”. McCain has no answers to these serious issues other then to continue following the same policies and neo-con controlled decisions of the past eight years. This corporate controlled party is over, trickle-down economics has proven a failure as much as communism was in it’s day. The tried and true, “for the people, by the people, of the people” government is returned to make American prosperus, respected, and powerful again. Obama will be the catalyst to the purpose. The party is over for the few rich elitists and the powerful neo-cons.

Posted by: dlboggan | October 31, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm

I am so tired of this freakin egomaniac. I have resigned myself to the fact that he will win the election; I have said all along “Why are we bothering to have a GE when the media has already elected this guy ?” I am not so sure that Osama and BiNLAdin can solve the problems of the universe. I just see higher taxes, crappy health care and more welfare, oh sorry, redistribution of wealth. Isn’t that socialism ?
JFK was not a communist/socialist. Obama is NO JFK !!
I still don’t know who I am voting for…I don’t like either one of them. I will vote for the one I hate the least. Shoot yourself in the right foot or the left foot….

Posted by: KC_1971 | October 31, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

Did you all notice it was sponsored By ACORN and if you called in the first 15 minutes you got two votes for the price of one! Where was Billy Maze he would be better at trying to sell a crappy product! NOBAMA O8 or EVER!

Posted by: batesba74 | October 31, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm

Did you all notice it was sponsored By ACORN and if you called in the first 15 minutes you got two votes for the price of one! Where was Billy Maze he would be better at trying to sell a crappy product! NOBAMA O8 or EVER!

Posted by: batesba74 | October 31, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

MY WIFEY WAS JUST TRYING TO SAY, SHE WOULD ONLY BE PROUD OF AMERICA IF GOOD OLE BUCKY WAS ELECTED PREZ. NOW DON’T BOTHER ME ASKING ABOUT ISSUES ANYMORE. (yes but mister president, it’s time for the State of the Union Address). WELL, JUST RUN THAT HOPE AND CHANGE CAMPAIGN SPEECH BY THOSE SUCKERS AGAIN.

Posted by: . | October 31, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

Since the MSM won’t cover it, have you read that the middle class has been ‘redfinined’ once again? This time by NM Gov Bill Richardson..down to 120k. Do I hear 100k anyone? 75k?

Posted by: Cheryl Palmer | October 31, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

Has anyone seen or heard from Biden or did they put the muzzle back on.

Posted by: jody | October 31, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm

The Choice In This Election Could Not Be Clearer…
- Hope -vs- Fear
- Future -vs- Past
- UNITED States -vs- Right Wingnuts
- Open Government -vs- Barons of Greed
- Barack Obama -vs- A Third Bush Term

Posted by: Targaray | October 31, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm

DAMN IT, WILL YOU TELL THEM TO WAIT A MINUTE? I NEED TO FINISH MY SMOKE IN THIS HEAR BATHROOM IN THE WHITEYHOUSE, I’LL BE RIGHT UP THERE FOR THAT MEETING IN A MINUTE! OH TELL MY KIDS TO QUIT SWINGING FROM THE CHANDELIERS TOO! AND DON’T LET ANYONE IN THE LINCOLN BEDROOM, WE ARE HAVING A CRACK PARTY AND GAY SEX!

Posted by: BUCKY NOBAMA 08 | October 31, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm

Republican’s have traditionally raised more money than their Democratic counterparts and you never heard them complain before. Why are they complaining now?
Additionally, my husband and I both came from humble backgrounds; we both paid our way through college and law school and now enjoy a very comfortable living and enjoy a lot of perks simply because we make a lot of money. It always amazes me when we get free things or deeper discounts simply because of our income bracket. Where were these perks when we most needed them?
I know my family would get to keep even more of the money we earn if McCain won, but at some point people have to say I have enough and I can’t take it with me.
I also believe that we should help society as a whole and don’t mind paying more taxes because ultimately the world is a better place when we take care of each other and make sure children have a good education and those in need of medical care have access to it.
For those of you claiming taxes collected would be handed out to drug addicts, it sounds like the scare tactics being used in this election have worked on you.
Please go back to your faith and really look at what Jesus would have done and stop fearing those who are different than you. Jesus would never harbor hate or such vitriol for other human beings.
The world would also be better if we stopped being so hateful to each other simply because of our political affiliations or the color of our skin.
(Independent voter)

Posted by: Blue | October 31, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm

TROY DAVIS, PLEASE REMEMBER THAT AMERICA IS NOT THE OLD SOUTH ~ AFRICA !
A $TATE ECONOMIC BOYCOTT OF GEORGIA INTERNATIONALLY WILL OBVIOU$LY BE THE END RE$ULT OF GEORGIA DECIDING TO MURDER A PO$$IBLE INNOCENT TROY DAVI$ WITHOUT A NEW AND FAIR TRIAL ?
US CONGRESSIONAL MEMBERS WHO ARE ALSO LAWYERS BY TRADE, CONTINUE TO DENY poorer AMERICAN’S PROPER LEGAL REPRESENTATION !!!
THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY NEEDS TO BEGIN A FORMAL INVESTIGATION INTO THESE US CONGRESSIONAL CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY, AND HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS BEING INFLICTED ON poorer AMERICAN’S LIKE MR.TROY DAVIS OF GEORGIA !!!
HAVING BEEN DENIED APPEAL LAWYERS FOR THREE YEARS ON DEATH ROW IN GEORGIA MR. TROY DAVIS IS NOW BEING EXECUTED FOR A CRIME HE MIGHT NOT HAVE EVEN BEEN INVOLVED WITH !!!
SENATOR OBAMA PLEASE LET THIS COUNTRIES VOTERS KNOW YOUR FEELINGS AND THOUGHTS ABOUT A NEEDED FUTURE REPAIR AND RENOVATION OF OUR BROKEN JUDICIAL SYSTEM THAT CONTINUES TO ALLOW THE EXECUTION’S OF EVEN POSSIBLE INNOCENT AMERICAN’S LIKE TROY DAVIS OF GEORGIA ?????
BEING THE WEALTHIEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD SENATOR OBAMA, DON’T WE NEED AS THE LEADERS OF THE FREE WORLD TO BEGIN ONCE AGAIN TO RE-INVEST THE PROPER MONIE$ IN OUR OWN US JUDICIAL SYSTEM, ASSURING ALL OF OUR CITIZENS THEIR RIGHTS TO FAIR TRIALS WITH PROPER LEGAL REPRESENTATION ???
DOES GOD NEED TO LOBBY OUR US CONGRESSIONAL LEADERS OF THE FREE WORLD ON BEHALF OF OUR poorer american’s SENATOR OBAMA,OR ARE YOU WATCHING OUT FOR THEM ??
***OUR US CONGRESS CONTINUES TO DENY MIDDLE CLASS AND WORKING POOR AMERICANS PROPER LEGAL REPRESENTATION EVEN THOUGH WRONGFUL EXECUTIONS & FALSE INCARCERATIONS CONTINUE ALL ACROSS AMERICA ???
*** 700 BILLION $$$ AVAILABLE FOR US BAILOUT, & NO $$$ FOR ALL POORER AMERICANS PROPER LEGAL REPRESENTATION ? SENATOR OBAMA, THIS JUDICIAL INJUSTICE HAS BECOME AN AMERICAN ART FORM, AND NO LONGER CAN BE KEPT HIDDEN OR SECRET FROM THE AMERICAN PEOPLE EVEN IF CERTAIN (501c3) U$ RELIGIOU$ LEADER$ HAVE BEEN $ILENCED ??
LETS ALL HOPE OUR MEDIA FRIENDS CONTINUE TO SHOW AN INTEREST IN REPORTING ON THIS AMERICAN HORROR FACING THESE (TENS OF THOUSANDS) FORGOTTEN AND TRAPPED POORER AMERICANS, AND HOW THIS PRESIDENTIAL CONTENDER HANDLES THIS VERY SERIOUS ISSUE FACING AMERICA’S LATINO AND BLACK AMERICAN COMMUNITIES ????
WITH 80% OF THE BLACK AMERICAN VOTERS SAYING THEY SUPPORT SENATOR OBAMA IN THIS PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, IT IS ONLY FAIR FOR EVERYONE TO KNOW PRIOR BEING ELECTED OUR NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES HOW THIS DEMOCRATIC SENATOR TRULY FEELS ABOUT THIS AMERICAN JUDICIAL INJUSTICE CONTINUING TO INFLICT GRAVE HARM ON THE BLACK & LATINO AMERICAN FAMILIES AND THEIR COMMUNITIES NATIONWIDE ??????
*** WHEN GOD’S FACE BECAME VERY RED *** THE US SUPREME COURT GAVE ENEMY COMBATANTS FEDERAL APPEAL HC RIGHTS LAWYERS AND PROPER ACCESS TO US FEDERAL COURTS,AND POORER AMERICANS (MANY EVEN ON DEATH ROW) ARE DENIED PROPER FEDERAL APPEAL LEGAL REPRESENTATION TO OUR US FEDERAL COURTS OF APPEAL, AND ROTTING IN AMERICAN PRISONS NATIONWIDE ?????????
**** INNOCENT AMERICANS ARE DENIED REAL HC RIGHTS WITH THEIR FEDERAL APPEALS ! THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE $LOWLY FINDING OUT HOW EA$Y IT I$ FOR MIDDLE CLA$$ AND WORKING POOR AMERICAN$ TO FALL VICTIM TO OUR U$ MONETARY JUDICIAL $Y$TEM.
****WHEN THE US INNOCENT WERE ABANDONED BY THE GUILTY **** The prison experts have reported that there are 100,000 innocent Americans currently being falsely imprisoned along with the 2,300,000 total US prison population nationwide.
***WHERE ARE AMERICA’S RELIGIOUS LEADERS ??????? Since our US Congress has never afforded poor prison inmates federal appeal legal counsel for their federal retrials,they have effectively closed the doors on these tens of thousands of innocent citizens ever being capable of possibly exonerating themselves to regain their freedom through being granted new retrials.
This same exact unjust situation was happening in our Southern States when poor and mostly uneducated Black Americans were being falsely imprisoned for endless decades without the needed educational skills to properly submit their own written federal trial appeals.
This devious and deceptive judicial process of making our poor and innocent prison inmates formulate and write their own federal appeal legal cases for possible retrials on their state criminal cases,is still in effect today even though everyone in our US judicial system knows that without proper legal representation, these tens of thousands of innocent prison inmates will be denied their rightful opportunities of ever being granted new trials from our federal appeal judges!!
Sadly, the true US *legal* Federal Appeal situation that occurs when any of our uneducated American prison inmates are forced to attempt to submit their own written Federal Appeals (from our prisons nationwide) without the assistance of proper legal counsel, is that they all are in reality being denied their legitimate rights for Habeas Corpus with our US FEDERAL COURTS and will win any future Supreme Court Case concerning this injustice!
For our judicial system and our US Congressional Leaders Of The Free World to continue to pretend that this is a real and fair opportunity for our American Middle Class and Working Poor Citizens, only delays the very needed future change of Federal Financing of all these Federal appeals becoming a normal formula of Our American judicial system.
It was not so very long ago that Public Defenders became a Reality in this country.Prior that legal reality taking place, their were also some who thought giving anyone charged with a crime a free lawyer was a waste of taxpayers $$.
This FACADE and HORROR of our Federal Appeal proce$$ is not worthy of the Greatest Country In The World! ***GREAT SOCIETIES THAT DO NOT PROTECT EVEN THEIR INNOCENT, BECOME THE GUILTY !
A MUST READ ABOUT AMERICAN INJUSTICE:
1) YAHOO 2) GOOGLE
(MANNY GONZALES THE KID THAT EVERYONE FORGOT IN THE CA PRISON SYSTEM.) ** A JUDICIAL RIDE OF ONES LIFE !
***Someone please tell our US Congress that the GED degree that Manny Gonzales acquired in prison is not a LAW DEGREE !!!!!!
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Posted by: DOUGLAS FIELD | October 31, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm

For all those who dislike Obama for the color of his skin, shame on you. How many are you out there, that are so called christians? but you have such hatred in your hearts. What are you afraid of? loosing power that never exist, it is fear that you have of someone different than you. What gives you that right? this country was built on the backs of slaves and immigrants. Our history states “All men are to be created equal.” Obama has the right as an American citizen, United States Senator to be become the next Commander in Chief. How many of you have lost your jobs ? family members or friends lost theirs? How many of you have lost your home? or know someone who lost their home? How many of you lost your pension? How many of you paid $4.00 or more for gas to get back and forth to work? How many of you are having a hard time putting food on the table to feed your family or just making ends meet? How many of you out there have lost your health care? How many of you stood by and watch your jobs being shipped overseas? ENOUGH PEOPLE! and if you havent had enough of this crisis then you vote for the same and continue to suffer because you are not part of the elite making millions of $$$. Or you can vote for a CHANGE. What do you have to lose. Some have already lost your job, home, car, medical and what little dignity you have left. I didnt know wanting others to have the american dream became a “socialist “. America wake up! you are entitled. Do want someone that uses fear to win an election that has no plans for the majority of americans? And for the record i am desert storm war veteran (disabled), How many of you know someone that is a veteran and is homeless? but they too has paid their dues to this country that we ALL love. So many veterans out there are disabled, unable to to find work, not able to take care of their families, they are loosing there homes, their pride, dignity, and what is this country doing for them? Some of you out there thinks this is WELFARE! I read some of these blogs. I am disgusted that you can call Obama a liar, WAKE UP this Iraq war was built on a LIE. Which is costing American taxpayers (you and I) $10 billions dollars a month. I DESERVE more, as well as the next man or woman, and definitely the men and women that put on a uniform to serve and protect this country. This is The United States of America. It takes all of us to make this country a great nation. All of this division needs to STOP. And you out there, that reads this blog, for the next 4 years, where will you be? What will you be doing? Do you think you would be in a better situation? or will it be the SAME? Vote America! Your vote reflects your life and the people around you. So when you cast your vote, vote on the issues that will help you. And ask yourelf, will your character be questioned?

Posted by: texas1 | November 1, 2008, 12:13 am 12:13 am

If Obama becomes President within six months Obama will start butchering and gassing Christians and Jews.
Why?
A.- Obama is a born Muslim and was a practicing Muslim until the age of 28 which makes him a secret Muslim.
That’s why Obama wants to take away your guns. He wants you dead and America disarmed. Beware of electing an anti American Iranian spy.
Today I sold all my stocks and bonds and are in cash 100%.
I bought Guns food and Gold and are looking for a safe country in Europe.
Remember the smart Jews in Germany who didn’t believe in Hitler’s “Change”, they sold everything and moved to neutral country and lived. The others believed Hitler and were butchered and gassed.
If Obama is elected I’m leaving for Europe soon. White civilization is about to end in the US and I don’t like the law of the Jungle.
May god save us all.

Posted by: Don Trump | November 1, 2008, 9:42 am 9:42 am

I suspect the 33 million viewers was way below what obama expected to herald in his big win on Tuesday. Palin got much bigger numbers for the Biden Debate and SNL. When Palin does her big ad in 2012 just 5 days before her election I expect over 100 mil viewers at least will tune in. Such is the power of this extraordinary woman.

Posted by: Liveen | November 1, 2008, 10:29 am 10:29 am

I suspect the 33 million viewers was way below what obama expected to herald in his big win on Tuesday. Palin got much bigger numbers for the Biden Debate and SNL. When Palin does her big ad in 2012 just 5 days before her election I expect over 100 mil viewers at least will tune in. Such is the power of this extraordinary woman.

Posted by: Liveen | November 1, 2008, 10:29 am 10:29 am

I just saw this comment elsewhere:
The LA Times seems to think it’s not in the public interest what went on at the Jew bashing party Barack Obama attended at his friend Rashid Khalidi’s house.
I was thinking…if the LA Times doesn’t want Americans to know, maybe Professor Khalidi will let us know.
He does not take calls from journalists…only private citizens…
Call 212.666.5463
Amazing little thing that Google search…
I spoke with him today…check out my blog to find out more…
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Posted by: americanpatriot | November 1, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm

Come Tuesday Obama will still win by a landslide. Whatya gonna do.
dairylfromindy, have you forgotten what The Bush campaign did to McKain in 2000?

Posted by: exatlantic | November 2, 2008, 7:24 am 7:24 am

It’s impossible to compare what was done with what could have been done, but Dr. Tantillo, who has a marketing and branding blog ( http://blog.marketingdoctor.tv ), argues that the video was overproduced, and that whereas young people may respond to it, it may have actually turned off older voters: “Its slickness (i.e., sweeping cinematography, dramatic pauses, presidential-looking desk for Obama and that soaring soundtrack) might have just reinforced the idea in some people’s minds that Obama is ‘The (self-appointed) One.’ I can see this back-firing among an older demographic.”
He also speculates that the video’s real intention may have been to “fire up the base”–but thinks the money would have been spent through targeted ad buys.
Tantillo’s full post: http://blog.marketingdoctor.tv/2008/10/30/obama-should-have-spent-the-money-on-ad-buys.aspxping cinematography, dramatic pauses, presidential-looking desk for Obama and that soaring soundtrack) might have just reinforced the idea in some people’s minds that Obama is ‘The (self-appointed) One.’ I can see this back-firing among an older demographic.”
He also speculates that the video’s real intention may have been to “fire up the base”–but thinks the money would have been spent through targeted ad buys.
Tantillo’s full post

Posted by: sloane | November 2, 2008, 9:38 am 9:38 am

It’s impossible to compare what was done with what could have been done, but Dr. Tantillo, who has a marketing and branding blog ( http://blog.marketingdoctor.tv ), argues that the video was overproduced, and that whereas young people may respond to it, it may have actually turned off older voters: “Its slickness (i.e., sweeping cinematography, dramatic pauses, presidential-looking desk for Obama and that soaring soundtrack) might have just reinforced the idea in some people’s minds that Obama is ‘The (self-appointed) One.’ I can see this back-firing among an older demographic.”
He also speculates that the video’s real intention may have been to “fire up the base”–but thinks the money would have been spent through targeted ad buys.
Tantillo’s full post: http://blog.marketingdoctor.tv/2008/10/30/obama-should-have-spent-the-money-on-ad-buys.aspxping cinematography, dramatic pauses, presidential-looking desk for Obama and that soaring soundtrack) might have just reinforced the idea in some people’s minds that Obama is ‘The (self-appointed) One.’ I can see this back-firing among an older demographic.”
He also speculates that the video’s real intention may have been to “fire up the base”–but thinks the money would have been spent through targeted ad buys.
Tantillo’s full post

Posted by: sloane | November 2, 2008, 9:38 am 9:38 am

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