A Different Member of the Keating 5 Introduces the Boss at Obama Rally

Just as Jake Tapper has made no mention today of the Wall St. Journal coverage of the statement by McCain’s senior economic adviser that a McCain administration would cut Medicare and Medicaid.

The Keating Five? Weren’t they the opening act for The Dazz Band in Ohio in 82? I don’t think they were around for the whole tour with only one hit.

as they say….heh

Obama is taking advantage of Ohio’s new controversial early voting:
Obama’s campaign is using its financial and organizational muscle to boost turnout among his core supporters – blacks and the youth. His campaign long planned for this early voting period and organized car pools from college campuses to early voting sites across the state.
Independent groups seeking to increase poor and minority participation also transported voters from places like homeless shelters, halfway houses and soup kitchens.

But Obama is, unfortunately.

It’s about time Obama discussed McCain’s role in the Keating Five. That was a real association, not a guilt by casual asociation smear that Sarah Palin is broadcasting. Let’s see how her own rap sheet turns out by election day. The McCain campaign is trying to suppress it or at least postpone it. Besides, who can sympathize with someone who shoots wolves from helicopters, lobbies to remove protection from polar bears, and has a Kenyan preacher lay hands on her to protect her from witches. In Kenya his cult murders women accused of witchcraft.

So one of the Keating Five is an Obama supporter…
Somehow I don’t think that’s equivalent to actually being one of the Keating Five.

It seems the Democrats greased the wheels at Freddie and Fannie so poor people could get loans. While a noble thought it hurt the poor most of all. The results are still being played out in the credit markets and it’s impact not yet certain. Obama seems to be the favorite in the polls. If he should win in November, and the economy continues it’s decline, he may be remembered only for his failures.

Numerous Invalid Registrations Reported
ACORN is at it again!
Crown Point (Lake County), Indiana
Lake County Republican Chairman John Curley wants a federal investigation into hundreds of voter registrations bearing fictitious signatures or the names of dead and underage people.
“Fraudulent applications are the workings of ACORN groups operating from Milwaukee and Chicago who are getting out the vote for Obama…”
“…it appears some ACORN vote canvassers pulled names and addresses from telephone books and forged their signatures.”
Hoagland said large numbers of voter registration forms bore signatures all in the same apparent handwriting style.
LaSota and Hoagland said they instructed ACORN on how to legally register voters, but apparently the organization’s canvassers broke rules to meet ACORN-set voter registration quotas….
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While the Republican Party is pushing the Federal Election Commission to investigate the possibility that Democrat Barack Obama collected excessive contributions, its own candidate is facing scrutiny on the same subject.
The FEC sent a letter to Sen. John McCain’s campaign treasurer Sept. 30 demanding the candidate turn over more information about “contributions that appear to exceed the limits.”
The letter is accompanied by a nine-page list showing scores of overages from McCain’s August campaign finance report, including nearly $13,000 from Texas rancher Ray R. Barrett Jr.; $9,200 from an Iraqi security consultant, H. Carter Andress; and $5,000 from Joseph F. Davolio, an executive at a major national liquor, beer, and wine distributor.
“Please inform the Commission of your corrective action immediately in writing and provide photocopies of any refund checks and/or letters reattributing or redesignating the contributions in question,” the letter from the FEC’s senior campaign finance analyst, Leah S. Palmer, says. “The acceptance of excessive contributions is a serious problem.”

Agreed. John Glenn is not running for president. McCain is.

So much for the politics of change!! what an A$%.

When asked why voters should not be more concerned about McCain’s proposed cuts to Medicare than various sightings of the Keating Five, a famous ABC correspondent replied “let them eat ACORNS.”

Glenn’s not running for President.
Does being one of the Keating Five make you unsuitable to be President? Maybe. Does being one of them make you unsuitable to introduce Bruce Springsteen? Hard to see how!

Charlie Keating, the banker and anti-pornography crusader, would ultimately be convicted on 73 counts of fraud and racketeering for his role in the savings-and-loan scandal of the 1980s. That crisis, much like today’s subprime-mortgage meltdown, resulted from misbegotten banking deregulation, and ultimately left taxpayers to pick up a tab of more than $124 billion. Keating, who raised more than $100,000 for McCain’s race, lavished the first-term congressman with the kind of political favors that would make Jack Abramoff blush. McCain and his family took at least nine free trips at Keating’s expense, and vacationed nearly every year at the mogul’s estate in the Bahamas. There they would spend the days yachting and snorkeling and attending extravagant parties in a world McCain referred to as “Charlie Keating’s Shangri-La.” Keating also invited Cindy McCain and her father to invest in a real estate venture for which he promised a 26 percent return on investment. They plunked down more than $350,000.
Unfortunately, any lessons McCain learned from the Keating scandal didn’t affect his unbridled enthusiasm for deregulating the finance industry. “He continues to follow policies that create the same kind of environment we see today, with recurrent financial crises and epidemics of fraud led by CEOs,” says Black, the former S&L regulator. Indeed, if the current financial crisis has a villain, it is Phil Gramm, who remains close to McCain. As chair of the Senate Banking Committee in the late 1990s, Gramm ushered in — with McCain’s fervent support — a massive wave of deregulation for insurance companies and brokerage houses and banks, the aftershocks of which are just now being felt in Wall Street’s catastrophic collapse. McCain, who has admitted that “the issue of economics is not something I’ve understood as well as I should,” relies on Gramm to guide him.
Ricky:
I read that also. McCains bill would cut Medicare and Medicaid to pay for his health plan.
Empty Suite.. He has no clue.. The man is clueless.

Obama = Loser!

Mishaps mark John McCain’s record as naval aviator
Three crashes early in his career led Navy officials to question or fault his judgment.
latimes great story..

Howard Wolfson on Obama: “It’s Over

No, you see we know the other 4 Keatings are Democrats. We also know that they are not running for president. McCain is. Obama was not involved in the Keating 5. McCain was.

Let not forget Sarah Palin association’s with the radical Alaska Independence Party that wants to secede from this great country, the United States of America.
And here is a quote from Alaskan Independence Party founder Joe Voegler:
“The fires of Hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government, and I won’t be buried under their damn flag!”
I wonder how Palin explains her husband”s verified membership in the “ALASKIAN INDEPENDENCE PARTY?” Seems she doesn”t believe in the UNITED States of America, does she??
hey Sarah, go ahead and bring up Obama’s pastor…
I’ll take an angry marine pastor over some witch doctor…
and also don’t forget McCain’s pastor(s) the one who said New Orleans desrved what it got, it was punishment from God….

In his most serious lapse, McCain was “clowning” around in a Skyraider over southern Spain about December 1961 and flew into electrical wires, causing a blackout, according to McCain’s own account as well as those of naval officers and enlistees aboard the carrier Intrepid. In another incident, in 1965, McCain crashed a T-2 trainer jet in Virginia.
latimes…

As a presidential candidate, McCain has cited his military service — particularly his 5 1/2 years as a POW. But he has been less forthcoming about his mistakes in the cockpit.
The Times interviewed men who served with McCain and located once-confidential 1960s-era accident reports and formerly classified evaluations of his squadrons during the Vietnam War. This examination of his record revealed a pilot who early in his career was cocky, occasionally cavalier and prone to testing limits.
latimes..
Mishaps mark John McCain’s record as naval aviator

McCain just voted for a bailout bill with pork and earmarks. Where is his integrity on the campaign trail when he says “I will veto anything with pork with my veto pen” ?

I just read a conservative blog that said, “I just can’t wait for the moment when John McCain–contrite and suddenly honorable again in victory or defeat–talks about how things got a little out of control in the passion of the moment”
I just hope that anyone listening at that moment, spits in his eye.

John Glenn is not running for president last I saw. John McCain is and John McCain was rebuked for using poor judgement….at age 58 not 8. I don’t think any of this is should be relevant but since relevancy and truth doesn’t matter to McCain\Palin then everything is relevant in my mind. Including McCain’s womanizing and adultery. Let’s get it all out…All you have to do is search the Internet on McCain+corruption. There is plenty to find. May not be truthful but McCain\Palin have shown truth does not matter.

Have you seen the videos of kids chanting Obama slogans? The Democratic party has become an Obama cult. If Obama wins and they serve Kool Aid at Obama’s ignauration, by all means, go ahead and drink.

The bottom line is this is going to be a massive blowout by B Rock.
McCain will be lucky to get 200 electoral votes when Obama is finished with him.
POTUS OBAMA – IT’S A LOCK

The election is over. Obama won.

I just listened to Palin recent rally in Florida and she is changing the tone from this morning. She did not mention Ayres or Rev. Wright this time.
She had nothing to say anyway. The DOW fell plunged below 800 at a point today.
I guess they are feeling the heat. They thought this was Kerry and 04 when we did not fight back..

It was a shame a lossing proposition for McCain to change the topic on a day when so many Americans especially seniors are losing their retirement benefits due to the stock market crisis.
McCain = countryself

BREAKING NEWS!!!
PPP NC POLL
Obama 50 McCain 44 Barr 2
Senate
Hagan (D) 49 Dole (R) 40 Cole (L) 5
Thank you Barr for taking Mccain votes….

Keating 5. Is it a band or something?
I heard McCain was the lead singer. His best song was De Regulation which is the cause of this financial crisis.

Typical– free pass for one, harsh criticism for the other…all the difference is party affiliation…

John “Keating 5″ McCain is the one running for Presdent (not Glenn). McCain will shoulder the full responsibility for the $billions lost due to the bribes and backroom deals between McCain and Keating.
Who is more dangerous, Ayers (a University Professor) or Keating (a Convicted Felon)?
Which association cost the American tax payers $billions; McCain/Keating or Obama/Ayers?
Which of theses fiascos are relevant in the face of our current financial crisis?
If you said McCain/Keating you are right.
The same deregulation that McCain pushed to enable Keating to swindle US tax payers out of $Billions is the same that the McCain/Gramm crooks cooked up in 1999 that are going to eventually cost the American tax payer $1.50 trillion.
McCain is a CROOK.
Crooks are forced to retire.
We will retire McCrook on Nov. 4th.

professorj,
It it was just one associate of John McCain’s it would be one thing…but c’mon
Liddy
Ifshin
Hagee
Quinn
Viet Cong
Davis
Gramm
Keating
Singlaub
Where oh where does it end John?

LMAO even the left winger at MSNBC are saying the CBS polls are made up, how about the others, Remember New Hampshire, when that curtain closes anything can happen, we may wake up to Ralph Nader as Prez

Maybe because John Glenn isn’t running to become President of the United States in the middle of an economic crisis that he’s enabled through both word and deed throughout his 20+ years in Washington. However, I hear John McCain is.
It’s all about relevance.

karen. I don’t understand. When did any of the people you listed except the Viet Cong ever say they they hated America. And what association does John McCain have with the Viet Cong except being tortured by them for five years?
I simply listed Obama’s anti-American mentors. His list of crooked friends would take too long to compile.

McCain was exonerated… Obama has not even been investigated for his shady associations.

Why should the Obama campaign mention Glenn? Is Glenn running for President? Is he the Obama opponent that has announced that a month of personal attacks should turn the page on the American economy?
When Barbie Palin talks about “pallin’ with terrorists”, does she mention say the mayor of Chicago who does a lot of projects with Prof. Ayers? Or about the Staff of Ayers’ university? Or about the publisher of his books? Or about say Amazon that is selling his books? All “palling around with terrorists”…?
What, in fact, is all this BS about?
Can’t we just conclude that Palin is the dumbest creature that ever set foot on a Presidential ticket and be done with it?
Please.

Give it up. Keating has nothing to do with this election as this is really old news which most of were aware of for years. On the other hand most of what has come up about Obama is much more recent with no responses from him on any of the issues. Without responses to clear this up I would find it difficult to vote for him

McCain was chided by the senate ethics committee for “bad judgement” and McCain said, “it was the worst mistake of my life”.
That’s not even getting into all the free travel and trips he got from Keating. He didnt pay it back until he was busted. The House and Senate couldnt agree on where it should be investigated.

No one knows who Barack Obama really is. He says what the people want to hear. If he said or did something that is not working in the polls, he changes sides. Look at his past and tell me that you are comfortable with him running the country.
Obama is frightening!
Dem for Palin/McCain

Right now Obama is trying to deflect from his corrupt campaign contributions, how many Terrorist gave to him, hundreds of thousands of dollars cannot be accounted for… Who is really trying 2get Obama elected? Something is fishy in these contributions

“one of the issues facing voters is whether or not Gov. Palin, who is a heartbeat away from the presidency, has the ability to lead at thsi time?”
I think she is, but let’s do this as a risk assessment problem.
Governor Palin is better prepared at this time to be Vice President than Obama is prepared to be President. Palin is proving to be a remarkably quick study and should anything befall Senator McCain, she would be more than ready. Obama, on the other hand, has to be ready day one and quite obviously he is not.
So if you want to pose this as a risk assessment, the Democratic ticket comes with the most immediate and greatest risk.

With the Keating 5 we’re talking about $112,000 that Keating went to prison for and McCain was exonerated. LET’S TALK ABOUT THE CONTRIBUTIONS TO OBAMA CAMPAIGN THAT ARE UNDER INVESTIGATION. Doesn’t want public financing because his overseas terriorist friends wouldn’t be able to bundle their $$$ into his campaign.
Millions are being looked at closely, some from a couple of Palistinian brothers, so the $112,000 from 20+ years ago bothers me little.
NEVER EGO FIRST OBAMA.
COUNTRY FIRST McCAIN/PALIN

Vicki,
Name me one person that died from the so-called Ayers Bombs.
Keating cost the tax payer $billions. It was McCain’s deregulation machine that made it possible for Keating The Crook to succeed.
It was the McCain/Gramm 1999 deregulation gambit that caused the current financial crisis.
Like I said earlier McCAIN IS A CROOK and we are going to retire him on Nov. 4th.

Obama has a 6 point lead in NC.
Wow, McCain is falling apart.

How dare Sarah Palin attach Barack Obama on terrorism. Since she and McCain are so American, why don’t they ever talk about the terrorists right here in America – I’m talking about the ones that hide behind white sheets. Give me a break, how desperate can she and McCain get?
Sarah, the best thing you can do now is go back to Alaska and take care of your precious baby Trig, and be the best grandmother that you can be!

The Democrats really blew it. We could have owned the White House for at least the next 16 years. We should have chosen HRC, who would lead us through this mess. Then, she’d be re-elected. Obama would have 8 years to do what he hasn’t done so far – have his actions match his word. If he fell on his face again in the next 8 years, we’d have someone like Evan Bayh to take over. I mean, this is a junk year. I don’t like McCain, but I FEAR Obama.

There is nothing wrong with voting early as long as it is a legitimately registered voter and a ONE TIME THING.
Apparently many of the voters being registered by ACORN are not valid and therein lies the controversy that will probably end this election up in the Supreme Court again.

Running for President with an adoring liberal media and celebrity endorsements and rock star status DOES NOT QUALIFY ONE FOR PRESIDENT! Nineteen months of having 300 advisors machine your campaign does’t cut it…but Bozo will keep talking finance as he sees it is his golden opportunity to the keys to the WH. Unbelieveable.
NEVER OBAMA. I will turn off all TV and raido for 4 years.

What they are saying at P U M A
Monday, October 6th
“If anyone dared draw a picture of Obama in such a condescending and thoroughly dismissive way just because of his race, I’d be the first to cry foul. So why can they do it to a woman?
So here’s the deal the media is trying to sell you: If Obama loses it will be YOUR fault because YOU are a racist.”
But if anyone printed anything portraying Obama as being the “step and fetch-it boy” for Nancy and Teddy? If they portrayed him in a big pimp hat with feathers and platform shoes? OMG, the horror! (And rightly so).
Women get no protection by society from the hateful stereotypes directed at them, even when those stereotypes are just as wrong and ugly as any based on r@ce.
“If I wasn’t worried to death about the future of this country & the future of the party that I loved but that no longer exists, I would find the fact that we are witnessing a real, life Ministry of Truth in action quite interesting. Don’t like the old story? Why just write a new one. Obama now claims he didn’t know about Ayers’ past when he gave him that little “get to know you” fete in his home. He didn’t know about Rezko either, or what was going on at his Church. Most sad of all is not the fact that there are morons who buy these lies but that they don’t understand that even if true, anyone who is so oblivious to his surroundings is not fit to be president.”
P U M A
We voted for Hillary.
The DNC gave us a BOZO instead
McCain/Palin 2008

Palin is not only a lier, shes a loud mouth, trying to appear as somthing she is not and will never be, smart. This chick can’t even run her own house, Alaska and has absolutly no class. You poor Reps. have placed another Dummy to head up your party, one you can hardly stomach, and he’s added chatty kathy to the poor poor mix. you guys are a bad joke.

SEN. CASEY: LET’S SEE MCCAIN SURVIVE WITHOUT GOV’T HEALTHCARE…
As the two presidential campaigns assault each other over past associations, the Obama campaign took the opportunity on Monday afternoon to cast John McCain’s health care plan as a product of “misguided, reckless ideology.”
Taking to the phones, Sen. Bob Casey of Pennsylvania and former Florida Sen. Bob Graham determinedly laid into McCain for proposing a policy that would result in massive Medicare cuts and higher taxes for some insured.
“Think about this proposal in the context of others, [and] you have to wonder about what John McCain and his running mate’s priorities are for America,” said Casey. “This is not putting your country first, it is putting a radical, misguided, reckless ideology ahead of the interest of families of America.”
Casey went so far as to challenge McCain to “survive without his government provided health insurance,” in order to better understand the struggles of those uncovered by their employers.
“We have a pretty good deal and it is about time the American people have access to the same insurance we do,” he said.
The call is part of a concerted effort by the Obama campaign to shine the political spotlight on health care and Social Security issues in the wake of the current financial crisis. The effort has included a bevy of television and radio ads, blasting McCain for seeking to privatize both these programs. The two Senators were granted an assist from the Wall Street Journal this morning, which reported that the McCain campaign would fund health-care related tax credits (which they believe will help people pay for their own insurance) through massive cuts in Medicare and Medicaid. Douglas Holtz-Eakin, McCain’s senior policy adviser, said savings in those two programs will come from cutting waste and unnecessary spending.
“I think the fact that this health care plan has been examined now and the Wall Street Journal would say in the lead paragraph that it could results in cuts of 1.3 trillion dollars in over ten years is further proof that John McCain’s campaign is being run by conservative ideologues who have no connection to what is going on in people’s daily lives,” said Casey.

Did you hear the Stevie Wonder song supporting Barack? Goes like this -
Ba-rack O-ba-ma
Ba-a-rack O-ba-a-ma
Ba-ra-ack Obama-a…
(Repeat several more times)
Kind of like the nominee, sounds good, but when you read the transcript there’s nothing there.

As if Troopergate weren’t enough, Palin has a serious tax problem now.
Palin’s Tax Returns Are Wrong: Jack Bogdanski (Lewis & Clark) notes that the State of Alaska did not follow its own per diem policies in Governor Palin’s case, as set forth in this two-page memo, Income Tax Implications of Long-Term Per Diem. Jack notes:
This document is a potential blockbuster. It establishes two important facts:
1. The state has long acknowledged that it had a duty to determine whether Palin’s “tax home” was really Anchorage and Wasilla, a conclusion which would have required that her per diems be reported as taxable income.
2. The state knew that when an employee is planning to spend a majority of her time on state business in the Anchorage area for a four-year period, Anchorage is the employee’s “tax home,” and per diems for time spent in the “tax home” are taxable income.
So why didn’t Alaska officials follow the state’s official policies and report Palin’s per diems as taxable income on her W-2? Only they can answer that.
And how can the tax lawyer whose opinion was released by the McCain campaign on Friday say that “no special consideration was ever given to Governor Palin, notwithstanding that she was the governor of Alaska”?

Mishaps while flying?
It’s always good to have friends (or relatives) in high places.

To GiveItUp:
Although I disagree as to all thr reasons as to why Mccain/Palin have already lost. I agree that indeed Obama has this locked in.
Senator Obama will be the next president. The mudslinging just makes the republican side look desperate.

Yes, and the one thing the Obama campaign is forgetting with all of their voter registration drives, and ACORN donations, and the alleged voter fraud now occurring is the fact that even though the liberal media is on their side, even though both houses of Congress are controlled by the Democrats, the U.S. Supreme Court is still a predominantly conservative one.
Whatever they saw constitutionally fit to order in Bush v. Gore, will more than likely be what they see to order in Obama v. McCain.

P U M A says:
What our members are saying:
“Barack Obama: when it comes to the content of his character, he doesn’t have a shred of it.”
“And who injected it (race) into the race? That would be Obama himself, and his lackeys in the corporate, lying media, who care as much about race relations as they do about telling the truth. That would be not at all. See, they only cry bigotry when it suits their interests. And their interest is to have a sock puppet in the white house. If they truly cared about bigotry and hatred they would recognize the rampant sexism that has gone on this election season ”
P U M A
Democrats who are not voting for Obama.

If Glen was sincere in his efforts he’d roll on McCain.
That said the MSM has the story on Keating & McCain’s extensive involvement & McCain’s son’s position on the board of Freddy Mac until 6 months ago & McCain’s involvement in helping stonewall Bob Dole’s legislayion that would have allowed records on POWs & MIAs to be released.
There are so many stories on McCain & his troubled past including his wife’s drug addiction that he tried to cover up that the MSM refuses to cover…

Poor McLame, you have totally misrepresented the situation that occurred in Ohio this past week. In a nut shell, the Ohio state law allows early voting to begin 35 days prior to election day; but voter registration doesn’t conclude until today, Oct. 6. So the Sec. of State of Ohio interpreted the law to allow same day registration and voting between the time that early voting begins and Oct. 6. The GOP challenged this and lost. So for the week ending today, individuals were allowed to register and vote the same day. THAT IS THE CONTROVERSY.
And the McCain campaign was all over it. As soon as the ruling came down, they had their grassroots-workers busy registering people and seeing to it that they got to an early voting site the same day.

When the pollsters call us. We say that we are voting for Obama. When our friends ask we say we are voting for Obama. When your canvassers come by we tell them we are for Obama. We lied.
On election day we will vote McCain/Palin.
Your poll numbers are skewed and WRONG. (wink)
It is called a P U M A Pact

Springsteen’s “Born in the USA” takes on a new meaning.
Obama was born in the state of Hawaii.
McCain was born in Panama.
The natural US citizen law written after his birth was not meant to exclude him as a potential candidate for President but it is so poorly worded (like the one that allowed Cheney to get away with treason for outing a covert CIA agent) for births dated that far back that his fellow Senate members decided they needed to pass a non-binding Senate Bill in support of his efforts to run for President, just in case the issue got all the way to the courts. Nice to have friends in the Senate or the US Supreme Court (right Mr. President).

Yes Ryan, I see your point.
My spelling is just like McCain’s judgement.
Completely wrong

“Faulty Logic, you are absolutely wrong. Several news organizations conducted their own recount and found that George W. Bush ended up with more votes than Al Gore in Florida in 2000.”
Actually, I think Gore won the nation wide popular vote in 2000, but who cares at this point?

“After this election, Americans will have the least experienced, least qualified, least prepared president in living memory if the Republican candidate is elected and has a heart attack or if the Democratic candidate is elected and does not.”
Posted by: ryan c | Oct 6, 2008 5:14:15 PM
Well said. I’m afraid neither Senator McCain or Senator Biden actually chose a qualified running mate this election.

In Sarah Palin’s church, while Sarah Plain was sitting in church, pastors have preached that Jews deserve being attacked in Israel, that it was God’s punishment for them for being Christians.
Less than two weeks before Palin was chosen as John McCain’s running mate, she sat in the congregation at Wasilla Bible Church as David Brickner, executive director of Jews for Jesus, suggested that violence in Israel was part of God’s judgment on non-Christians. THIS IS WHAT HE SAID: “But what we see in Israel the conflict that is spilled out throughout the Middle East … is an ongoing reflection of the fact that there is judgment. … When Jesus was standing in the temple, he spoke that that judgment was coming, that there’s a reality to the judgment of unbelief.”
SARAH PALIN at one time at her church even joined a pastor on stage who had preached negatively about “Israelite” control of the financial sector.

John Glenn didn’t go to jail. He didn’t take money from Charles Keating, or invest in Keating’s real estate ventures. Or vacation with Keating in Barbados – nine times.
Keating went to jail with his buddies, Michael Milken and Ivan Boesky, world-class financial pirates.
McCain ran interference for them in Congress, stalling the regulators, stalling legislation for regulation.

God help us if this election is as close as 2000 and ends up in the courts. The Obama cultists will riot and burn down our cities. Uh, make that their cities. In the red states not so much because we are still clinging to our guns and Bibles.

Bruce hasn’t been connected to the blue collar working man since the 70′s. Now, he’s just like every other clueless, elite celeb.

This all just look like last minute desperation from the Republicans. They are giving their death throws right now. It just cements the Obama victory. As long we stay vigilant the Democrats will prevail and the more the Mc Cain camp throws mud the more others make a landslide possible. Landslide is the objective now not just winning.

Jill, you are correct. And I may have misinterpreted Faulty Logic’s comment. Al Gore did have more votes nationally. But that is irrelevant. The winner is determined by who garners the most Electoral Votes–as outlined in the U. S. Constitution.

dassis,
PUMA is an acronym for “sore loser”. It litterally stands for Party Unity My Ass. Which was an apparent attempt to bully Obama in to picking a NY senator as his running mate. Of course, it was about as effective as the swift boat tactics from the Arizona Senator.
Help is on the way.
The 2 SNL characters, Grumpy Old Man & The Church Lady, are on there way out. I thought Carvey played them better anyway.

At war the first casualty is the truth. At this electoral race the truth has been killed by McCain/Palin and the Republicans

Well, I’m going to ignore the rantings of the lunatic fringe and actually address the point of Mr. Tapper’s post. You, sir, are the master of understatement. It is quite ironic that the Obama camp thinks nothing of using John Glenn at a rally the day they launch an attack on McCain. But then, I am continuously reminded that they are fairly tone-deaf. McCain was exonerated of wrong-doing in the Keating affair but chastised for showing bad judgment. He learned from that mistake and spoke openly and extensively about the mistakes he made. In fact, the Keating 5 affair was instrumental in developing McCain the crusading reformer we have today. He has written about the incident and the lessons he learned. He has been open and painfully honest. He is, I would argue, in a strong position to be able to talk about the importance of the company a politician keeps. He has learned from his bad judgment. Obama won’t even admit to any of his own mistakes. He stubbornly refuses to admit it shows bad judgment to be involved with Ayers or Rezko. He repudiates Rev. Wright once Wright dissed him in public, but still shows no remorse for having spent all those years in the man’s church. It reminds me of the way he sorta comes around to admitting the surge worked in Iraq but stubbornly refuses to say that in hindsight, he should have voted for it. I am more comfortable with the judgment and attitude of John McCain as a national leader. Maybe, if Obama learns from his lapses in judgment as McCain did, someday he could be president. But he is not ready yet. John McCain is.

I agree, picking John Glenn may not have been the best move…but I think some of us are missing the forest for the trees. McCain was chastised for using bad judgment. Bad judgment is exactly the problem. The same bad judgment, which lead McCain to ask if Bin Laden is really such a bad guy in 1998. The same bad judgment that thinks the solution to lack of oversight is less regulation. The same bad judgment that picks a VP that can’t name a periodical, or answer a direct question. Common, if Catie Couric takes you behind the woodshed; what happens when you meet with someone who’s really hostile, e.g. Putin? There’s a good chance he might use a big word or ask a basic question about American culture that a 3rd grader can answer? I digress….a long history of bad decisions. Should I mention Carol McCain (now that’s family values)
Ask any football coach in the country. You’ll get the same answer. You play like you practice. If your habit is to spew incoherent BS at the 1st sign of conflict, then that will be your reaction. On the other hand, if you practice doing the right thing (treating people with dignity, answering questions, conducting yourself with some integrity, as so forth) then that will be your natural reaction. That’s why McBain hasn’t been able to rattle Barrack. McCain will continue to fall on his face, flip flop, and whine about the media for the next 4 weeks. Then we get a break…bye bye Johnny Mac!!

John Glenn is over-hyped as a former astronaut, but he has the self-knowledge to clean up his act after Keating-Five.
McCain has instead pushed for deregulation up and down Wall Street ever since. Calling himself a Mavericky doesn’t change that. The old man hasn’t learned his lesson and won’t learn it before Nov 4.

GOSH, DIDNT JOHN MCCAIN ADMIT HIS TERRIBLE LACK OF JUDGMENT ? CONTRITE OR NOT, HE HAD A LAPSE, IN FACT, HE HAS LOTS OF LAPSES… FOLLOWING HIS PATTERN OF PIVOTING OPPORTUNISTIC EPISODES, ONE GETS A FEELING OF A CAMPAIGN WITH A COMPLETE LACK OF DIRECTION, NO STRATEGY AND A COMPLETELY ARROGANT DISREGARD FOR THE ATTENTION SPAN OF VOTERS. IF ONE FOLLOWS THE TRAIL OF MISCUES,TACTICAL MISCALCULATION AND BLUNDERS,IT IS APPARENT THAT THIS CAMPAIGN IS MISSING INTELLIGENCE, NO, NOT WHAT YOU THINK I AM SAYING,MAYBE NOT…. HE IS BLINDED SOMEHOW TO THE REAL DEVELOPMENTS TAKING PLACE IN THE WORLD….NO INFORMATION ! WHY? MAYBE IT IS DUE TO HIS STRICTLY IDEOLOGICAL VIEW. LOOKING AT THE WORLD WITH THE WRONG ANALYSIS IS JUST AS BAD AS HAVING BEEN LOBOTOMIZED ! IN HIS ATTEMPT AT MAKING HIS CAMPAIGN MIRROR THE CONSERVATIVE IDEAL;, AND FIT THAT VIEW INTO HIS WORLD VIEW, HE HAS BECOME UNREALISTIC IN TERMS OF POLICY, PRESENTATION, ETC. ONE EXAMPLE IS THE CANNED ,SCRIPTED RALLIES WE SEE NOW. i HEARD SARAH PALIN , IN ONE OF HER SPEECHES INTONE “DRILL BABY”, WHICH HER CHEERING SECTION PROMPTLY TOOK UP… TERRIBLE STAGECRAFT AND DEVASTATINGLY REVELATORY OF THE EMPTINESS OF THIS POLITICAL CHARADE OF A CAMPAIGN.

It was McCain who was the main guy fightning to protect Keating. McCain who was his close buddy, who used his jets, expensive vacation homes [yet worth $ 100 MILLION with Cindy ?!] —– McCain has a long history of lies and distortion. Would you pick someone in the bottom quarter of their class to run your company? Because he would have loved to be “that good.” —– McCain was 895 of 899, just a hair above the very bottom!!! And even then he would have been kicked out except for his daddy admiral. —— He “used” to be a maverick, compared to most Republican Robots! But being a cheerleader for this UNNECESSARY IRAQ WAR, voting with Bush 90%+ of the time, shows those days are long gone! —– The Iraq War has NEARLY BANKRUPTED THE US !! $$$$$$$ —- It will cost $ 3 Trillion, or $ 3,000 Billions by the time we pay off the “Chinese credit card.” Same as if the Republicans BURNED DOWN EVERY AVERAGE HOME IN THE MIDWEST, FROM IOWA, MN. TO MICH. AND OHIO !!! —– With that kind of “experience” he may be worse than Bush !

This is all just politics, and in politics (whether democrat or republican) you do whatever it takes to get the top job (i.e., president). My issue with this is that McCain did exercise poor judgment, but he’s admitted that, was reprimanded, and has consistently said over the years that it was a mistake. There’s also a suggestion by politicians, including Democrats, that he was included in the whole thing to make it look like it wasn’t just Democrats, and that when the investigating group wanted to drop him from the charges because his part was negligible, the Democrat-controlled congress wouldn’t let them because they didn’t want it to look like it was only Democrats that were involved. Not surprisingly since the Democrats were as corrupt in the 1980s as the Republicans got in the past decade. What’s interesting to me, though, is that I’d really like Obama to publicly apologise for his association with Ayers. He distances himself, but ironically doesn’t seem to demonstrate the same repentance as McCain over the Keating 5. This bothers me a bit as it suggests real ego on Obama’s part, which is not appealing.
Keating 5 is old news (Bush used it in 2000). Ayers is old news (Obama was a kid when that stuff happened). Both men perhaps exercised less than ideal judgment (depending on who you are and what you believe in), and so when I ask myself what matters for today and hopefully tomorrow, I’m left only with the question: what’s the relevance? In my opinion, the relevance is: have these two men learned from previous mistakes? Can they admit shortcomings and correct for them? What does their RESPONSE say about their personality?
I’m a Democrat. I’ll vote for Obama. And in any event, I’ve no doubt his administration and perhaps Obama himself will do plenty of dodgy things during their time as well

It is interesting that in his bio, John Glenn discusses the Keating scandal.
What Obama is not telling you is that as soon as they were advised that Keating was under investigation Glenn and McCain ceased any relationship with Keating and did not try to provide any other assistance. However, three high ranking democrats continued to help Keating .
Glenn, according to his words asked to be severed from the investigation since he had done nothing wrong. He was told by the committee chairmen that he had to stay because McCain was even less culpable and if they let Glenn go they would have to let McCain go and that would leave them with only Democrats.

“Folks the Keating Five would not have been mentioned except Sarah Palin keeps trying to connect Obama to Ayers. That opens the door to look at McCain’s past. Obama was a child when Ayers was protesting and as adult was on two committees with the man.”
And Ayers helped launch Obama’s campain at Ayers house. And Obama wrote a revue of Ayers book. But how was Obama supposed to know he was a terrorist?
McCain didn’t know Keating was a crook until the meeting, and then he removed himself from it. Oh yeah….
“After a lengthy investigation, the Senate Ethics Committee determined in 1991 that Alan Cranston, Dennis DeConcini, and Donald Riegle had substantially and improperly interfered with the FHLBB in its investigation of Lincoln Savings, with Cranston receiving a formal reprimand. Senators John Glenn and John McCain WERE CLEARED of having acted improperly but were criticized for having exercised “poor judgment”.”