A Note About Comments Being Deleted
Some conservative bloggers have recently written about having their responses deleted from our comments section. They feared it had something to do with their political views.
The concern confused me, because obviously that’s not ABC News’ policy, and as anyone who regularly reads the comments here can attest, conservatives contribute responses all the time. As do liberals, moderates, etc. etc.
After checking in with the honchos at ABC News.com, and the people in our legal department, I’m told that this was the issue: ABCNews.com deletes user comments which attempt to include a url.
This is the policy only because of abusive spammers who user comment sections and message boards to distribute links containing a range of objectionable material.
Hope this clears matters up.
- jpt
UPDATE: To make this even clearer, I personally do not moderate the comments, nor do I have an assistant who does that. There is an outside company that monitors comments, which ABC News hired. If some of you have had comments deleted in the past that did not contain an outside URL, and were not in other ways a violation of ABC News policy (against profanity, or defamatory attacls, for instance), please post them and tell me when they were deleted and I will forward to the people in charge. The goal of the comments policy is to create a forum for lively but civil debate.
UPDATE 2: Tom, James and MayBee, thanks — that’s very helpful. I am forwarding these to the people in charge, who are then looping in the monitors. I’m not sure what’s going on here, but again, I want this to be a place where people of all political stripes can engage in lively, civil debates. For those who’ve noted that most people don’t keep their postings, if you can even give me a basic description of what the blog post was about, and what you said — as MayBee did — that’s helpful.
FINAL UPDATE: I take very seriously the charge that there are ideological considerations being given to our monitoring blog postings. ABC News takes the charge very seriously as well.
So even though I was on Capitol Hill all day Wednesday covering what is by any measure a far more important story — the economic crisis — a bunch of us have spent much of the day reviewing complaints from individuals.
Here’s the bottom line: The monitors say those whose complaints about alleged bias we reviewed today have other reasons to blame for their posts being removed, and for being blocked from posting.
I don’t want to call out any of the bloggers by name, or even nom-de-plume, but perhaps those complaining can see themselves in the following list.
And for anyone not directly impacted, but concerned about the charge, perhaps this will eludicate the reality behind the charge.
Blogger J — monitors say you have a habit of not only posting links and directions to non-ABC News video, which is a violation of ABC News policy, but of insulting other commentors, calling them "morons" or "imbeciles" on a regular basis.
Blogger L — you in the past have had comments unpublished for telling other posters to shut the f up as well as for posting links.
Blogger A — you have been unpublished many times for making inappropriate comments instructing others to stop having unprotected gay sex
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Blogger R — you’re generally only unpublished when you and other posters continually attack one another.
Blogger K — you can’t call other posters "scum."
Blogger T — you need to stop referring to other posters as "Nazis" or "Nazi fascists."
Blogger J – you often post the same comments numerous times.
Blogger M — all your posts are up. Maybe you’ve misplaced them since I tend to blog a lot, but they’re there.
Blogger H – this is not a blog where you are welcome to say that someone’s personal code of ethics is like a prostitute’s personal code of virtue. You also sometimes spam.
Posters of all political stripes are more than welcome to contribute lively and civil comments.
Please don’t post links to other websites and please try to be civil to one another, and I think this perceived problem should go away.
There are plenty of websites where you can insult each other with impunity. This is not one of them.
Thanks
Jake
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Posted by: dem in chicago | October 1, 2008, 10:29 am 10:29 am
Jake
Be Honest, many of my posts have been deleted whenever I speake the truth about Obama.
Let me say to you. Why don’t you some research on ACORN & OBAMA and write here
Posted by: adam | October 1, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am
Where is the Gwen Ifill story? Where is the headline for the poll that shows Obama lost 5 points to McCain? When you don’t inform the public, censor bad news about Obama and his partisan debate moderator, deleting comments is the least of your problems. When ABC News does not let people know the results of their own poll, you can only ask how far they are in the tank for Obama.
Last week, your headlines were Obama runs away with it 52-43. In fact, that is still on your poll website. Today’s poll results are only available through 2 links on hyperlinks. You can’t make this up. ABC News is pathetic.
Posted by: Karen | October 1, 2008, 10:32 am 10:32 am
Plus, I noticed that it’s impossible to get a comment that has the full name of Mr D Morris in it through the spam filter.
Posted by: greta | October 1, 2008, 10:35 am 10:35 am
Why isn’t McCain’s improvement in the polls under any recent posts? Isn’t him improving contrary to what Georgie S. and Jake Tapper have been telling us what the public mood is? Anyone with any sense of objectivity will find both ABC News and Washington Post burying of the latest poll a travesty. If ABC News and Washington Post had any journalists, they would definitely be considered unethical. But they are not journalists. They are DNC hacks. There is not debate. Today is the living proof of the partisan censorship, use of propaganda and outright media manipulation in an effort to get Obama into the White House.
Posted by: Karen | October 1, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am
Now the whining starts. The conservatives have basically controlled the conversation in the media for the last 15 to 20 years and finally, the balance is returning. All the whining in the world will not put McDumpty together again.
Posted by: c3pachman | October 1, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am
If ABC is on the up-and-up, where’s the Gwen Ifill / VP Debate scandal story ?
Posted by: Ron | October 1, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am
Thanks. I’ve also had posts deleted that, in retrospect, were way off topic or part of some petty squabble. That’s fine with me – this is not my blog. It seems like the point of many comments is to repetitively demand that Tapper report some story one way or another. This is incredibly tiresome, and almost never germane to the actual discussion.
As far as I can tell, very few people read the postings that are put up by others here. So, everyone seems to do their own deleting.
Posted by: Tungsten | October 1, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am
No Jake its everytime i bash John McBush, my comments get deleted. That elitist needs to be unmasked.
Posted by: Alexander T. | October 1, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am
More comments are deleted than just those with urls.
I’ve had comments deleted that disagree with the post (politely).
I’ve had comments edited to take out the meaning of what I was saying.
I’ve had comments deleted asking why my comment was deleted or edited.
You need to ask again, because someone isn’t being honest with you, Jake.
Posted by: MayBee | October 1, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am
“ABC News is pathetic”
Yet you still blog on here. I would ask where is headline of the Obama landslide.
Ohio: Obama +8
Florida: Obama +8
Virginia: Obama +6
North Carolina: Obama +2
Colorado: Obama +4
New Mexico: Obama +11
Iowa: Obama +10
These are Bush states of 2004 and Obama leading in all. Where’s that headline?
Jake is far and balance but the truth is this election is no longer closer.
Bill Clinton won by 6 in 1992 and that was a landslide victory.
Majority of the poll it’s Obama +6; nationally.
Posted by: Vanessa | October 1, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am
ABC has the right to delete message which
are misleading. A good number of Conservatives bloggers, love this game of twisting things!
Posted by: FM | October 1, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am
Not quite, Jake. Some are deleted without the urls. Either the policy is more detailed than that, or someone at ABC is exceeding the policy. Also, these comments are edited with phrases removed.
Dig a bit deeper.
Posted by: len | October 1, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am
Some democratic bloggers keep boasting that Obama is going to win. It ain’t over til the fat lady sings. The polls have gone back and forth. A few weeks ago, McCain and Obama polls were just the opposite of what they were yesterday. So public opinion can change and there is still an undecided group out there who will really determine the winner. When McCain was ahead in the polls I wasn’t boasting about it because I see how rapidly things can change and it would be smug of me to push it in other peoples faces.
Posted by: Fran | October 1, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am
Oh come on. I’ve had numerous posts deleted that contained no URL’s or bad language. They just weren’t flattering to Barack. Censorship has been going on here and on the other blogs (msnbc and cnn) for months that were simply Pro-Hillary or Pro-McCain. So your claim that it’s to protect yourself from abusive spammers is total BUNK.
Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | October 1, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am
HEY MR. SMART GUY….. WHERE IS THE STORY ABOUT IFILL AND HER OBAMA BOOK, ON ON ABCNEWS WEB SITE????
Posted by: sally | October 1, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am
It would not be unreasonable to conclude that the influence of a spouse will more often than not influence the other spouse to take on similar beliefs, like actions or characterizations.
According to Snopes website Princeton was requested to put a ‘restriction’ on distribution of any copies of the thesis of Michelle Obama (a/k/a/ Michelle laVaughn Robinson) saying it could not be made available until November 5, 2008 but when it was published on a political website they decided they would lift the restriction.
Michele Obama, the wife of Barack Obama stated that America was a nation founded on “crime and hatred”. Michele said “there was no doubt in my mind that as a member of the black community, I am obligated to this community and will utilize all of my present and future resources to benefit the black community first and foremost.”
There is an old saying “say what you mean, and mean what you say”…..which, of course, is not valid in Michele Obama’s case?
Posted by: Ann | October 1, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am
Thank you Karen.
Do you ever get tired of listening to your own broken record?
And if you hate this news source so much, why don’t you do yourself a favor and find something more to your liking?
I think we all win when you’re happy.
Posted by: really | October 1, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am
Sometimes the least members of the tribe will get out of line and even violate tribal policy. It is the responsibility of the chiefs to keep their minions in line. I have had only one post clipped, one that shined a light on what I viewed as unacceptable ABC News bias. If you are going to allow these ridiculous commentaries of sometimes equally ridiculous stories, you need to remove all censorship and let the chips fall where they may. I disagree with the policy of not allowing urls. Often the url provides counterpoint to an unbalanced story. It is only fair. Don’t you think?
Posted by: jcarob | October 1, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am
Give me a break! No one in their right mind is going to vote for an angry old man (I’m 63) and a nit wit.
Posted by: Mary | October 1, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am
Has anyone seen the “palin won debate” ad yet. Last week the mccain ad leaked out even before the debate happened. Republicans are such cheaters…
Posted by: pt | October 1, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am
ACORN’s Senator
By INVESTOR’S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Tuesday, September 30, 2008 4:20 PM PT
Election ’08: Barack Obama wasn’t just the second-largest recipient of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac political contributions. He was also the senator from ACORN, the activist leader for risky “affirmative action” loans.
Posted by: dem in chicago | October 1, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am
Not True.
Posts which criticize ABC, or Jake Tapper (even though civil) are deleted.
Posted by: sammy | October 1, 2008, 10:51 am 10:51 am
palin does have one advantage over Biden. Joe can not see Russia from Delaware.
Posted by: pt | October 1, 2008, 10:51 am 10:51 am
Pathetic, these “conservative bloggers” are so busy trying to collect mclame points that they have to resort to postingn URL’s and other useless and incorrect trivia to get their golf tee or whatever else the Palin/McCain ticket is offering these days. GET A JOB OR GET BACK TO WORK!
Posted by: Bob Lees | October 1, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am
p.s.
If that’s the “depth” of Tapper’s “reporting” on the posting policy here. Once can imagine he applies the same level of “digging” to all his reporting.
The posting and removal policy are obviously more detailed than just “URL’s”.
If he can’t get that story straight what else is he misreporting?
Posted by: sammy | October 1, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am
What is abundantly clear to anyone with a shred of honesty or integrity, is that the vast majority of the media are in the tank for Obama. You don’t even have the decency to lie about it anymore. There is no investigations going on as to the numerous and duplicitous links between Barney Frank, Rahm Emanuel, Obama, et al… links and ties to FannieMae/FreddieMac, ACORN…and others involved in this democratic made fiscal nightmare. Because there is NOT one honest journalist in the midst of you all. The FBI is now investigating 24 large mortgage lenders for alleged abuses. But who will investigate the pols and the lobbyists and the community agitators who made the bad decisions that ultimately forced businesses to make their bad decisions? Certainly not our “journalist!”
Posted by: catscratchfever | October 1, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am
Ok Jake we all needed a good laugh today, the posts don’t have to contain a url, just be against Obama, I have had posts deleted and seen many others deleted, and in fact seen posts with url’s stay…so come back when you can admit the truth! Anything else just makes you and ABC look even more ridiculous.
Posted by: samhiguchi | October 1, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am
Palin’s vague answers and her guns babies bibles routine will more than satisfy the right wing nut jobs.
Biden is in a no win situation. Even if he has total command of the facts, it won’t matter because Palin is only going to satisfy the right wing… that’s her job and why she was chosen. Facts are not important to Palin supporters.
Posted by: Gus | October 1, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am
Read the comments here. It’s comical.
It’s clear to me that Jake has done a fair and balanced job of offending both Obama AND McCain supporters.
You people need to get a life.
Posted by: Blue in Michigan | October 1, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am
“The concern confused me, because obviously that’s not ABC News’ policy”
it shouldn’t have confused you, it should have made you double check, not just what the policy says, but also what is being done.
you need to look at the deleted comments and see if they are appropriate
Posted by: trettione | October 1, 2008, 11:02 am 11:02 am
Jake, You are not telling the truth. You deleted a post a couple of days ago deleted cause I called you a heck [replace the "e" with a "a"]. Remember that story about the bracelet that you didn’t follow up on? That your assistant had to post an update to.. Yeah that one.
Posted by: steve | October 1, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am
you’ll notice ABC will not now (or ever) post the censorship policy. Censors NEVER do this because then they could be held to their own rules and biased application of their own rules would become obvious.
If the full policy is not published then the “policy” can be “adaptable” to, uh, certain circumstances.
ABC must have someone from the Chinese government as an advisor.
(see how long this post lasts….)
Posted by: sammy | October 1, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am
Just tell ‘em Fox News welcomes them all. They all swoon over there when the news is not great everywhere else. Perhaps they notice Fix Noise is losing its credibility with the populace.
Posted by: D | October 1, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am
Sorry Jake, many of mine have been deleted and I’m the most civil contributer of posts to these sites, right Sally?
Posted by: bombem | October 1, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am
REALITY CHECK!
this is a stupid blog
it’s not a job
it’s not affirmative action
it’s not votor fraud
it’s not mandatory
it’s not road rage?
it does not give or remove fortune
(or change minds)
IT IS…an outlet for pathetic keyboard warriors….including myself
so GET A GRIP ON REALITY!!!!!
Posted by: reality check | October 1, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am
“Some conservative bloggers have recently written about having their responses deleted from our comments section.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | October 1, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am
“Jake’s wife works for …”
And that is germane exactly how? My wife teaches autistic children and it isn’t a reason to support McCain because his wife had that gig too.
Politicians are fair game. If reporters become advocates, they are no longer civilians so they are fair game.
Family? No. Not unless they are also advocating publically. If ABC deletes this, so be it. Palin has the power to protect her family. So does Jake. Any of us would who could and should.
I’m not trying to be his buddy, just saying, show some class.
Posted by: len | October 1, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am
I have seen posters comment and complain that a previous post was deleted, and I trace it back and find it. sometimes they are unable to locate their previous posts and blame it on ABC.
Much like the GOP always blams a so called ‘liberal media’ for bias when the truth is they just don’t like to see the truth and facts reported.
(in spite of the reality that media is run by large corportations). Oh well, just one more annoying fact.
Posted by: Truth Matters | October 1, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am
“Hope this clears matters up.”
Such condescension. In a free society censorship always makes the censor look worse than the censored.
This is why ABC and Tapper are responding. They’re not doing a very good job at sweeping the issue under the rug, eh?
It’s all part of the loss of credibility of the Media. The biases are obvious despite condescending non-sequiturs (the URL prohibition is the most obvious of MANY “rules” in place).
Posted by: sammy | October 1, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am
This blog has been GARBAGE from day one. But then again everything Tapper says is and has been crap, so the “resource” doesn’t fall far from the “source” if you know what I mean.
Posted by: hmn | October 1, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am
I enjoy reading the comments posted by Republicans. It’s fun to see into the mind of those who are detached from reality.
Posted by: Reason | October 1, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am
It is not apparent why many posts are deleted. Deletions go far beyond inserting a url and naughty language. The standards for deleting comments are inconsistent. Weekends seem to be censored to a greater degree.
My suggestion is that the blog author receive a report of deleted posts for periodic review, that would help authors
Posted by: smith | October 1, 2008, 11:16 am 11:16 am
Jake
what about Ifil the VP moderator is writing a book about Lord Obama and will be released on the Innaguration Day.
Why don’t you ask her to resign
Posted by: tony | October 1, 2008, 11:17 am 11:17 am
It’s fun to see into the mind of those who are detached from reality.
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Why do you criticize or put down people with different views from your own? Why must you insult them? Maybe they are pro life and that is why they are voting McCain. How is that detached from reality?
Posted by: Subculture of Journalism | October 1, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am
I have had many comments deleted in the past months, especially when I was posting during the primary. Any comments that questioned Obama and brought real issues to the table were deleted. I stopped posting as I believe the site was and is obviously trying to help Obama win (first the primary, now the general). That is why I no longer view Jake as a legitimate journalist. This blog is simply a place for him to post Obama’s latest press release.
Posted by: Andrea | October 1, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am
Isn’t it what all of us want to hear from a presidential candidate: ” Unlike Republicans, who are calling for essentially permanent bases in Iraq, and Democrats, who have done nothing to counter Republican calls for an indefinite occupation, I would put in place plans for withdrawal without undue delay. While I support an exit from Iraq as quickly as possible, I would not publicly announce a timetable to our adversaries. However, as President, I would begin to immediately and significantly begin to reduce both the military and the economic security blanket we are providing the government.”- Bob Barr.
Posted by: cory | October 1, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am
It’s alarming that Ifill’s well-known bias toward, and financial (as well as “professional”) interest in candidate Obama is only becoming known to a mass audience a day before the VP debate.
It’s surprising that there’s no thread on THAT — or on the fact that “public” radio and teevee have spent the last year campaigning for Obama — first against other Democrats, now against other political parties.
Posted by: Belle Starr | October 1, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am
both campaigns must agree to the moderator of any debate
the book was announced before they agreed to have her as the moderator
so you have only two choices in this matter
1. the mccain camp is incompetent at doing the most basic of research
2. they didnt really think it was a big deal
Posted by: Bhrandon | October 1, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am
CNN is much, much worse. Try posting something that doesn’t glorify the chosen one over there.
Posted by: Mack | October 1, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am
belle star
the mccain camp is terrible, the media isnt running with obama
the mccain camp is just showing terrible judgment
peopel dont like a leader who has no firm position or zig zags all across the map in time of crisis
we are tired of the george bush reaction
we want the steady hand of obama
sorry belle
Posted by: Bhrandon | October 1, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am
ABC, the American Barack CHannel, has been engaged in a systematic cmpaign to discredit Sarah Palin, while endorsing the Obama Biden ticket. In recent interviews with both candiates ABC interviewers show an obvious imlbalance both in the nature and content of the questions asked of each candidate. There is compelling evidence, on a daily basis, both online and over the airwaves, that ABC editors are acting as agents for the Obama campaign. Now one could argue that ABC is violating the public trust, and endangering one of the most fundamental building blocks of a free society. That being the unbiased use of the Public airwaves. Instead of reporting the news, ABC consistantly cherry picks which stories to cover about these campaigns, and it is very evident that ABC NEWS reports heavily on issues that weigh negatively on the republican candidates, while passing on stories that do the same to the OBama biden ticket. Even this blog, run by Mr Jake Tapper, has an anti McCain Palin bias that is almost impossible refute. The internet is fair game, I dont have to be here. But as far as public airwaves go, this systematic effort by the networks to sway public opinion of those that dont have alternate sources for news such as cable/satellite or internet acess is a blatant violation of the public trust. Just report the news ABC. Quit skewing it, quit making it, quit managing it. Report the news and let us make up our own minds.
Posted by: Just A Test | October 1, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am
“the media isnt running with obama”
Delusional.
Posted by: Mack | October 1, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am
“Weekends seem to be censored to a greater degree.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | October 1, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am
“so you have only two choices in this matter”
No, 3 choices and #3 is the most likely.
3. The are aware of the book and make sure the issue gets out a day before the debate so as to soften Ifill’s questions. She’ll be very worried about appearing biased. Also if things don’t go well for Palin they can blame Ifill as “biased”.
This is the point about the lack of credibility of journalists. It damages their effectiveness. Jake is obviously in the tank for Obama and JAKE’S reputation suffers for it.
Posted by: sammy | October 1, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am
I’ve had many posts deleted and I seldom if ever include a URL. Somebody’s not telling the truth at ABC. (surprised?)
Posted by: Aston | October 1, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am
“peopel dont like a leader who has no firm position or zig zags all across the map in time of crisis”
Posted by: Belle Starr | October 1, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am
Hey, I’ve got a story for you to report on….
Looks like Madame Pelosi has been caught by an ethics watchdog group funneling approximately $100,000 of PAC money to her husband’s investment firm over the last couple of years.
Apparently when the Republicans do this the Democrats call it part of the “culture of corruption” in Washington, but when Pelosi does it, it’s called fair compensation for services rendered…………….
Posted by: SandyB | October 1, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am
“After checking in with the honchos at ABC News.com, and the people in our legal department, it seems that this was the issue: ABCNews.com deletes user comments which attempt to include a url.”
Thanks for publicly stating this.
Some of us of course knew that but its good to let the community know.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am
Why is Katie Curic getting any credibility on these posts when the dumb has the lowest rating of any news anchor on TV? As a matter of fact her ratings are lower than Bagdad Bob, remember him?
Posted by: bombem | October 1, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am
” ABC consistantly cherry picks which stories to cover about these campaigns, and it is very evident that ABC NEWS reports heavily on issues that weigh negatively on the republican candidates, while passing on stories that do the same to the OBama biden ticket.”
I’m not sure what they don’t just come out and endorse him? CNN and MSNBC already have.
Posted by: Mack | October 1, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am
i remember a few weeks of rev wright
sure didnt seem like the media was pulling any punches then
why arent they talking more about thsi witch doctor?
do you know what they do to witches when they think they find one? lol
i doubt rev wright ever killed anyoen, this preacher… im not so sure
anyway the point, if they were in the tank for obama why would they have ever done that to him?
i mean you cant just blame the media, thats stupid,
right now mccain is in the situation he is in BECAUSE
he gambled on his vp pick
he made many flips in policy during the beginning of hte financial crisis
he made a political stunt to save us on the bailout billl took credit and then failed blamed obama and now says he never blamed anyone
mccains camp has no clear message and cant seem to come up with a position and stay with it
this is the mccain camps fault they have looked unsteady and have made stupid mistakes
you can blame some in the media for being in the tank for obama
keith olbermann anyone?
but then you can look to fox and say hey they are in the tank for mccain
but when everyone is talking about something, its not because they all have switched to obama
its because mccain is faltering
Posted by: Bhrandon | October 1, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am
“Looks like Madame Pelosi has been caught by an ethics watchdog group funneling approximately $100,000 of PAC money to her husband’s investment firm over the last couple of years.”
Say it ain’t so. The wicked witch is dead?
Posted by: Mack | October 1, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am
Well, if truth really mattered…many would have enough integrity to admit the bias that exist in the media. There are multiple links to studies and polls that show roughly over 70+% reporters/journalist report their own selves to be liberal politically. Go the NewsBusters, Media Research Center…more than half of all Americans know there is a bias. There are even recent polls that show well over half the people know Obama is getting unfair coverage. Go to this link, it documents over 101 cases of media bias, lies, plagarism, fabrication.
It is abundantly clear that truth does not matter to many.
Posted by: catscratchfever | October 1, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am
“i remember a few weeks of rev wright
sure didnt seem like the media was pulling any punches then’
The only “media” that wasn’t pulling any punches was Fox news. CNN just laughed it off as being irrelevent, and then they ran story after story about the “black experience” in America.
Posted by: Mack | October 1, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am
I just heard that MSNBC is going to hire a Middle Eastern belly dancer as a news anchor to accomodate it’s large anti American Muslim audience. Look out Kieth O’ it could be your job or your head!!
Posted by: bombem | October 1, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am
LOL
mack it was on constantly play for two weeks
are you kidding me
that is lol you just discredited yourself
anytime you turned on any news show they were talking about rev wright
puhhhh leeasseeee
taht is just silly
msnbc was even constantly playing them, lol
pathetic
why did the media not jump on mccain mixing up irans involvment in iraq, or shitte and sunni mix ups
i mean if hte media was really in teh tank for obama, mccain wouldnt even have a chance
just wow grow up people have eyes and ears and you can say the sky is orange long enough that you yourself believe it, but just saying it doesnt change the facts
teh sky is blue
lol
pathetic
Posted by: Bhrandon | October 1, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am
You McCain supporters are so incredibly paranoid. You think everyone – every news agency (except Fox, of course), every broadcast journalist, every political commentator, every moderator of every debate – all in the tank for Obama. Get a grip! Maybe they just think he is the better candidate. That’s possible, don’t you think??
Posted by: geecee | October 1, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am
belle star
you are nuts
Posted by: Bhrandon | October 1, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am
“LOL
mack it was on constantly play for two weeks
are you kidding me
that is lol you just discredited yourself”
Give me a break. Yes with hard hitting commentary by Roland Martin, Anderson Cooper, Keither obermann, Chris Matthews, Donna Brasile and the rest of the Obama fan club.
Bottom line, if McCain had belonged to a white supremacist group, he would have been run out of politics.
Posted by: Mack | October 1, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am
jUST NOW:
OBAMA: WE WILL HAVE TO SACRIFICE AND PULL OUR WEIGHT
TRANSLATION: SOCIALIST CRAP
Posted by: Subculture of Journalism | October 1, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am
If you are going to delete messages with URLs then don’t have a box to put one.
Other comments are missing. Yesterday I saw a quote from Bill Maher posted on a View story. When I was going to show somebody today it is missing. The quote did not reflect well on Bill, so you took it down.
Ethics in running this site, I doubt it.
Posted by: PT | October 1, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am
“House Speaker Pelosi Used Political Donations to Pay Husband’s Firm”
Posted by: Belle Starr | October 1, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am
e”xcellent article just out in Rolling Stone
Make-Believe Maverick
Rolling Stone”
Was the piece written in between bong hits?
Posted by: Mack | October 1, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am
ABC keeps all deleted posts in the cryocrypt with Mr. D. Goofy puts them in there personally. And I have it on good authority that the network is not biased because Mickey is black. Mr. D. worked when Roosevelt was on television before there was color.
Posted by: ricky | October 1, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am
Your claim is absolutely not true. I could prove you wrong, but it would require me posting a url, which would summarily get rejected.
Posted by: ja | October 1, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm
That was a good one Mack. ROTFL
Posted by: Subculture of Journalism | October 1, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm
Will Sarah Palin ever release those tax returns?
Posted by: FromMyView | October 1, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm
Some of my posts have been deleted with a message about letting someone, I guess Jake, read them before they will be posted and I didn’t post links. One of them had to do with the box with Obama and Bidens pictures on it and Tony the Tiger saying “They’re great”. All I said was “I will never buy that cereal again”. What was so bad about that?
Posted by: Maria | October 1, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm
Pelosi corrupt? Of course she is, more example of media biasness and corruption. Charlie Rangel under ethics committe investigation now. Chris Dodd’s sweetheart mortgage deal with Countrywide, eventhough he is the chairman of the senate banking committee. Diane Feinstein and her husband being multi-muillionaire war profiteers when she as chair of the Senate appropriations(MILCON)funneled war contracts to his defense companies. Barney Franks ties to Fannie Mae. Rahm Emanuel ties to Fannie. Baracks ties to Fammie and the money’s he received from them. All of the evidence documenting the democrats complicity in this financial crisis now. William Jefferson 100,000 frozen FBI bribe money that he commandeered the NationalGuard during Katrina to escort him home to get. Where’s the fair and unbiased reporting concerning all that????
Posted by: catchscratchfever | October 1, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm
Thanks for the clarification
Posted by: FromMyView | October 1, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm
Thanks for the clarification
Posted by: FromMyView | October 1, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm
Palin cannot release her tax returns. Someone named Belle has them next to the Rose law firm billing records and will not release them until Michelle Malkin tells her to.
Posted by: ricky | October 1, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm
That is two posts on this thread that I have posted that have been deleted. No URL attached or included, no vulgar language, just pointing out that you delet posts for whatever reason, or any reason you want to.
Posted by: Thinking | October 1, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm
This is not true, Jake Tapper. I have posted numerous posts…no url, no obscenities…yet they have been deleted, simply because I may say something negative about The One. Please kindly admit that it is ABC news bias, that anything negative said about precious Obama must be ignored.
Your home page is the perfect example of this. YOu have a front page story about what papers Palin reads (such a silly story!), and you STILL have no mention of the HUGE issues of Obama’s involvement with ACORN, or his thug tactics with Kurtz and the National Review, or suppressing free speech in Missouri, or the creepy “Obama YOuth” forced to sing songs about him.
Kindly tell us, what exactly is NEWS to you?
That, my friend, is bias. So, see, no url in this post. But will you delete it b/c I have the nerve to say something negative about Obama? Let’s see.
Posted by: liberati | October 1, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm
“Some of my posts have been deleted with a message about letting someone, I guess Jake, read them before they will be posted and I didn’t post links.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | October 1, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm
“Please kindly admit that it is ABC news bias, that anything negative said about precious Obama must be ignored.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | October 1, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
jpt writes:
“If some of you have had comments deleted in the past that did not contain an outside URL, and were not in other ways a violation of ABC News policy (against profanity, or defamatory attacls, for instance), please post them and tell me when they were deleted and I will forward to the people in charge. The goal of the comments policy is to create a forum for lively but civil debate.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | October 1, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
Barack Obama has achieved a significant lead over John McCain in the days following the first presidential debate. Pew’s new survey conducted Sept. 27-29 finds that Obama has moved to a 49% to 42% advantage among registered voters. The race was virtually even in mid-September and early August. Obama had not led McCain by a significant margin in a Pew survey since June.
The latest national poll by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press, conducted among 1,505 adults (including 1,258 registered voters) by landline and cell phone, suggests that three factors appear to be favoring Obama. First, more voters rate Obama’s performance in last Friday’s debate as excellent or good than say the same about McCain’s (72% vs. 59%). Obama’s leadership image also has improved. There is now almost no difference in the minds of voters as to which candidate would use better judgment in a crisis.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
The first of the Disney “Rules of Conduct” )see below) is routinely waived when pro-Obama entities post ad hominem attacks on posters who don’t share their obeisance to The One.
Are some of the pro-Obama posters actually campaign workers? So it sometimes seems. This is something ABC could determine (now that it’s extremely late in the game!) by doing comments in house.
Posted by: Belle Starr | October 1, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
“I keep my posts and everyone else’s.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | October 1, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
“Barack Obama has achieved a significant lead over John McCain in the days following the first presidential debate.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | October 1, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
The outside monitoring source obviously works for Obama!!! All of my posts and many others without profanity, or defamatory attacks that are not Pro Obama, have been completely deleted. You might as well call yourself the OBC. It’s very sad to see where the media has gone from what it used to be. It’s media takeover from the Cult of Personality.
Posted by: Equality in the media | October 1, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
As well as deleting, locking out IP addresses
Posted by: The OD | October 1, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
I don’t have a copy, but I can think of two instances right off the bat.
1- Your post about Christopher Hitchens’s review of Douglas Feith’s book. In your post, you missed that Hitchens had said “not” in an introduction to what Feith had claimed, and therefore posted that Hitchens had said the exact opposite of what he really said.
At least three other commenters and I pointed out the *factual* error, and our comments were deleted several times.
2.Jake had a post you made about the Clintons being like the Japanese soldiers found in the Philippines decades later, still fighting the war, because they couldn’t give it up that they’d lost the primary. I made a comment with an introduction that that was nothing, we’re still hearing from Gore people that he really won the election of 2000. I went on to say some other things, but the part about Gore was edited out.
I think the people working in the service have a mind of their own. They are not working in the spirit of Jake Tapper, that’s for sure.
Posted by: MayBee | October 1, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
Jake, it’s not just comments with a url. I frequently have my comments deleted, especially after hours. Once a comment was deleted after being posted for several hours. Sometimes I have reposted several times to no avail. When that happens I just wait until the next morning and repost. Usually it takes then.
But at least once every two-three months I have my comments actually blocked with the following messsage:
“We’re sorry, your comment has not been published because TypePad’s antispam filter has flagged it as potential comment spam. It has been held for review by the blog’s author.”
My comment is never posted after the fact so I suspect that my comment was never actually received. It really gets frustrating because usually that happens after someone has challenged one of my comments or asked me a question and I am unable to respond. Fortunately that usually occurs on just one particular topic. And I am able to comment on other topics.
Posted by: James Danley | October 1, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
Jake – nearly all my posts are deleted shortly after they are posted. (They are not pro-Obama.)
The other day I took several screenshots of the before my posts were deleted and after they were deleted.
Here is one of them with three images stitched together:
It shows me asking why all the pro-McCain comments are deleted. Then someone else replies. Then both remarks are deleted. All done within 2 minutes after the initial posting.
Posted by: Tom | October 1, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
“We’re sorry, your comment has not been published because TypePad’s antispam filter has flagged it as potential comment spam. It has been held for review by the blog’s author.”
James,
That happens when you cut and paste articles sources and post too long a version.
It has happened to me as well.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
If none of your comments are being posted, you have somehow been identified as a spammer for previously posting too many urls.
To continue posting, you need to create a new name and put in a different e-mail address.
Posted by: cincyr | October 1, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
In my comment below:
Posted by: Tom | Oct 1, 2008 2:02:51 PM
there was a link to a screenshot of my posts that were deleted.
Now that link has been deleted!!!
How are we supposed to give you proof, Jake, if you delete it???
Posted by: Tom | October 1, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
@ cincyr who wrote:
“If none of your comments are being posted, you have somehow been identified as a spammer for previously posting too many urls.”
You might add, “If any of your comments are pro-McCain or anti-Obama or Democrat you will be identified as one that ABC does not want commenting and will censor you.”
Big brother is here. People always said it would be the Republicans that would usher in Big Brother censorship, I never thought it would be the Democrats behind it all.
Posted by: Tom | October 1, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
In the interest of full disclosure, I once made a comment about Senator Kennedy that was very fairly deleted.
Posted by: MayBee | October 1, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
I had some totally innocuous comments deleted in the primaries. But what I said was civil and true. Their only crime was being pro-Obama. And I’ve seen other similar comments deleted too.
I think you need to take a second look at the comment review policy here. Transparency would help.
Posted by: Jeff | October 1, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
Folks,
The above Tapper post simply isn’t true. I used to get on this blog all the time and post comments, but got frustrated when many were deleted because of a conservative leaning i have.
Any comment that points out possible bias in reporting by tapper is also always immediately deleted in my experience. I’d say 20-25 comments of mine were deleted over the last six months.
Posted by: JG | October 1, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
Belle Starr:
Agreed re pro-Obama posters are not regulated at all regarding defamatory and swearing posts. That has been my experience, and why i stopped commenting on these Tapper articles a few weeks ago.
Posted by: JG | October 1, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
I am a McCain supporter, and have had my comments (sans urls-figured that would be a reason to delete) strangely deleted.
However, I have also noticed that some posters who appear to support Obama pretty strongly have their comments vanish as well…
I have always thought, huh? What gives?
Sorry Jake, I am still mystified.
Posted by: Wade | October 1, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
Oh, please. Send the deleted posts to you and you will send them on? Give me a break.
It shouldn’t be necessary to copy our posts and check back to see if ABC’s henchmen allowed them to stand or if it was a “no free speech for Republicans” Day at Jake’s Place.
And no, I never post links. I know better than that.
Comment deletion is so common here that I’ve pretty much quit bothering with your posts. Consider this an exception.
Posted by: Lynn | October 1, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
Its not just conservative posts that are deleted!!
I think it depends on the editor of the day!
Im leaning towards Obama and so are my posts and Ive had many deleted! Many which dont fit for the reasons given to warrant deletion!
Posted by: Alex Independent | October 1, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
Jake – I want to give credit where credit is due. None of my posts have ever been deleted.
In the interest of fairness, however, I want to disclose that this is my first post.
You should be advised that I intend to publish a book to be released on January 20, 2009 entitled “How Fair the Media Has Been Toward John McCain” – it will be a work of pure fiction. To give it some degree of credibility, I’m asking Gwenn I. to write the introduction on “The Appearance and Perception of Impartiality.”
It should be a best-seller (I hope) – I need the money.
Posted by: Concerned One | October 1, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
Oh good grief.
Jake, as you know, I’ve read your blog and commented from time to time (especially in its earliest days). I’ve never seen bias here. You know that one of my own comments was removed not too many weeks ago, and I recognized that I’d crossed what I referred to in email with you as a “bawdiness boundary.” It was entirely my own fault.
There’s an appalling lack of civil discourse among the regular posters here. There is also a distinct agenda on *their* part, a determination to smear the so-called “liberal” media. They scream bias even while calling other people (and even you, Jake, their host — they’re in *your* house) foul names. Then they claim not to have broken rules.
It’s an old game.
I think your blog is moderated fairly and posters both conservative and liberal (I’m as liberal as they come) have their comments deleted only when they break the rules.
I love reading your blog, Jake. Thank you for it. And honestly (I hope I can make this general statement without its being considered an attack), I think you’ve given the complainers more time than is their due. They need to be honest with themselves, or just go away.
L’Shanah Tovah.
Jill
Posted by: Jill Nikolaides | October 1, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
attn ABC / jpt staff:
If you want an example of a needlessly-blocked post, I have one working right now in the “Crap Sandwich” thread.
The first time it didn’t go through, I edited it for length and for a paragraph possibly-questionable to an Obama operative. But it still won’t post.
But there’s no way to “send” it, you see, as jpt suggests.
Posted by: Belle Starr | October 1, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
I’d say the “spam filter” is human, in this case. If NOT, are there certain words that are verboten by the filter?
The post I have stuck in the “spam filter” does include a response to a poster who used the word “socialism” — which does appear in my reply.
Posted by: Belle Starr | October 1, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
Jake, Either you’re not being straight – or the censors aren’t being straight. Comments aren’t deleted because they contain certain acronyms, or because they contain profanity or because they are acrimonious (in fact, the nastier the better, as far as I can tell). They are not deleted when they contain outright lies, and only on a few occasions when they are outright plagerism from another site – even when they are called out. Censorship is random (from these posts it sounds like both anti-Obama and anti-McCain posts are deleted). There is one site with nastier comments – and that one seems to have no censorship at all. Posters are allowed to use “facts” from pseudo-sources like Investor’s Business Daily, which pretends to run financial tips – when it’s really the equivalent of WorldNetDaily. The article referenced above is part of an 18-part series, completely baseless, all of which discusses the Marxism of the Obamas. 18-part series. Somebody should tell her mama. I think she’ll be surprized. And after reading the Paulson bill, I don’t think we have to look too far to find the Marxists. If you need more help – try reading the House Alternative Bailout for Lobbyists. It suggests that we give tax breaks to companies who have overseas operations and have lost funds – effectively providing corporate welfare to corporations who have taken jobs away from Americans.
Posted by: mara | October 1, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
Jill:
I have to respectfully disagree. I have seen comments of mine that are very inoffensive deleted (I support McCain). I have also been surprised when I have noticed Obama supporters’ messages deleted, because I didn’t think they crossed any lines either. Then, I will notice some pretty outrageous comments that remain on the blog (not often). I really try not to be invective here…I think most people are pretty tame, even when they get kind of spirited…rarely delete worthy. I definitely understand why Jake is wondering, “huh?” because I am too.
I am genuinely mystified as to why certain posts get deleted…it seems almost random sometimes…
Posted by: Wade | October 1, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
Jake, many of my posts have been deleted that are definitely not vulgar or untrue. Dem’s blogs which are downright vulgar and nasty to McCain / Palin have remained proudly on your board. If you noticed, I have not posted anything in the past several days as I had promised myself never to post again on your blog. I had convinced myself that the Obama Squad to silence any crtique against him had overtaken your blog – with your permission. If the outside company that monitors comments, which ABC News hired is doing this, then you may want to check to see if they are the SS for Obama. Woe to this Country if BO wins!
In any event, if any of my posts get deleted again, I certainly will not be posting (or reading) your board ever again! But I really don’t think that you care!
Posted by: Beckie | October 1, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
Wade,
I am unsure of the criteria as well.
Sometimes we are allowed to post snips of articles, other times we are not.
Sometimes heated conversations get terminated, sometimes they rage on.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
Ryan C: yep we can agree on that…I really don’t think there is bias, I just don’t get it…
Some disgruntled guy who just hates blog posters because they are all idiots? Heh.
Posted by: Wade | October 1, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
“Some disgruntled guy who just hates blog posters because they are all idiots? Heh.”
LOL
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm
Ryan– heh heh..
That’s my only explanation!
Posted by: Wade | October 1, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm
This is my third screen name for comments on this blog. The other two seem to have been targeted for aggressive censorship.
Posted by: Smith | October 1, 2008, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm
I had a comment deleted on the Biden’s” helicopter forced down” post – it was the first comment on the thread – that simply pointed out that NRO’s Media Blog had posted the same issue 2ce. That’s all I said. Made no slam. Poof.
I never thought Tapper was able to delete comments realizing a big, complex website doesn’t allow for isolated admin privileges. I figured it was a monitoring department.
I do think every site reserves the right to monitor and delete inappropriate comments and content, but it’s very interesting a outside service would be policing for certain political views.
Posted by: Timetester | October 1, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
IIRC lefty blogs went ballistic when Washington Post deleted their profanity laced diatribes when they accurately reported Democrats took Abramoff money. Now they see nothing wrong with arbitrary comment deletion. Funny how that works.
Posted by: Topsecretk9 | October 1, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm
I’ve been spammed-which I don’t even know what it is-and deleted. I was deleted months ago for posting comments that are now allowed. I am a Democrat and anti Obama. It’s too late for articles like this. It was too late for the Rev. Wright stuff to come out. Obama has serious problems that have NEVER been addressed that I have posted and have been deleted. Does anybody here ever get the feeling they’re being watched?
Posted by: RL in Illinois | October 1, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
Jake,
Your blog is filtered differently than the other ABC blogs. To the extent that many of us no longer bother to even open or comment as our posts (right, left or middle) are unceremoniously wiped. Worse, I’ve even had a post of mine EDITED, which completely changed the meaning of my post. These are not just one-time episodes, but a pervasive problem unique to your blog entries.
It is being done in a couple of ways, one is content filtering. The second is IP filtering. Some nights are worse than others. If they instituted the same filtering rules as they do for say, Political Radar, then you wouldn’t have as big a problem.
As an aside for the blogs in particular, it may be useful to either require membership or post a portion of the writer’s IP address. I think if there were a slight loss of anonymity that the tone of things would improve on here (it is easy to toss insults behind the mask of the internet).
Thanks.
Posted by: MIguy | October 1, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
Jake:
I too have had comments edited.
Posted by: Rex | October 2, 2008, 12:23 am 12:23 am
I have had three comments deleted, only one of which included a url. All three posts were under stories related to Obama and the NRA. After the last deletion I stopped trying to post comments.
Oddly enough the last comment deleted was nothing more than a statement describing the fact that two of my previous comments had been deleted and asking if I had violated any rules. I got the ‘message’ that conservative voices were not welcome when that comment was also deleted.
I’m very curious to see if this post will also be deleted.
Posted by: Brad | October 2, 2008, 12:54 am 12:54 am
Good grief. Even now my comments are still being deleted. The Obamanists have no shame.
About par for the course. My comment was up for less than ten minutes before being deleted.
Delete count now up to four. Three under NRA related stories and one here. I will save this post, as I expect it will also be deleted. Let’s see how many times this evening my comments are deleted on a story about comment deleting!
Posted by: Brad | October 2, 2008, 1:23 am 1:23 am
I posted last night at 11:01 p.m.
it’s gone
as I said it would be
I presume this one will be next
Posted by: bruce | October 2, 2008, 8:57 am 8:57 am
Jake, back on July 24, 2008 for your topic “McCain Camp Rips Obama for Cancelling Troop Visit,” the following comment of mine was deleted:
Lee, I consider myself well informed. My problem with Sen. Obama is in part his lack of experience (3 1/2 years a U. S. Senator), but–in my opinion–he is wrong on ALL of the issues. Sen. Obama is in favor of wealth redistribution–which I oppose. Sen. Obama is in favor of continuing the ban on offshore drilling, which he says will not do anything to lower the price of gasoline–of which I disagree. Sen. Obama is in favor of womb-to-tomb universal health care–which I oppose. Sen. Obama is in favor of amnesty and an expedited path to citizenship for the 20,000,000 illegal immigrants–which I oppose. Sen. Obama is in favor of late term abortions–I am pro-life.
Now then you wrote: “…a president (Sen. Obama) they can be proud of not only for his brilliance and accomplishments but more for his character and ability to bring our country together, as he has proven already, behind a common goal.”
What accomplishments? Sen. Obama’s claim to fame is his speaking talent. He certainly is a great orator…as long as he is reading off the teleprompter.
His character? You are talking about the same Sen. Obama who sat in his church for 20 years and never heard the Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. preach Black Liberation Theology. Yet even after seeing the YouTube clips, Sen. Obama allowed his daughters to remain in that church knowing that they were being indoctrinated with that theology. It wasn’t until the YouTube clips of Father Michael Pfleger came to light that Sen. Obama decided to leave the church–not based on theology, but politically motivated.
Ability to bring our country together? So far he hasn’t even proven that he can bring the Democratic Party together much less the country.
Posted by: James Danley | October 2, 2008, 9:03 am 9:03 am
Jake, just now I attempted to send a comment of mine that was deleted back on July 24th. I copied and pasted it, but it was blocked (flagged by TypePad’s antispam filter).
The first part of my comment was: “Lee, I consider myself well informed. My problem with Sen. Obama is…” After explaining why I am against Sen. Obama, I then responded to several of Lee’s comments.
Posted by: James Danley | October 2, 2008, 9:14 am 9:14 am
I will attempt to resend:
Jake, back on July 24, 2008 for your topic “McCain Camp Rips Obama for Cancelling Troop Visit,” the following comment of mine was deleted:
Lee, I consider myself well informed. My problem with Sen. Obama is in part his lack of experience (3 1/2 years a U. S. Senator), but–in my opinion–he is wrong on ALL of the issues. Sen. Obama is in favor of wealth redistribution–which I oppose. Sen. Obama is in favor of continuing the ban on offshore drilling, which he says will not do anything to lower the price of gasoline–of which I disagree. Sen. Obama is in favor of womb-to-tomb universal health care–which I oppose. Sen. Obama is in favor of amnesty and an expedited path to citizenship for the 20,000,000 illegal immigrants–which I oppose. Sen. Obama is in favor of late term abortions–I am pro-life.
Now then you wrote: “…a president (Sen. Obama) they can be proud of not only for his brilliance and accomplishments but more for his character and ability to bring our country together, as he has proven already, behind a common goal.”
What accomplishments? Sen. Obama’s claim to fame is his speaking talent. He certainly is a great orator…as long as he is reading off the teleprompter.
His character? You are talking about the same Sen. Obama who sat in his church for 20 years and never heard the Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. preach Black Liberation Theology. Yet even after seeing the YouTube clips, Sen. Obama allowed his daughters to remain in that church knowing that they were being indoctrinated with that theology. It wasn’t until the YouTube clips of Father Michael Pfleger came to light that Sen. Obama decided to leave the church–not based on theology, but politically motivated.
Ability to bring our country together? So far he hasn’t even proven that he can bring the Democratic Party together much less the country.
Posted by: James Danley | October 2, 2008, 9:19 am 9:19 am
Sorry, I forgot to mention that the deleted comment was from your topic, “McCain Camp Rips Obama for Cancelling Troop Visit.”
Posted by: James Danley | October 2, 2008, 9:20 am 9:20 am
Nice job Jake. This guidance will help. Thanks
Posted by: SMITH | October 2, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am
And, as predicted, my post here was deleted. It criticized the moderators so apparently was considered either obscene or politically incorrect or (ding ding ding! we have a winner!) too true for comfort.
Posted by: marylou | October 2, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am
Blogger M — all your posts are up. Maybe you’ve misplaced them since I tend to blog a lot, but they’re there.
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Jake, I feel like this is perhaps directed at me (as none of the others apply), but I can assure you this is not true. I just checked the Feith post, but I can tell you that I had that comment deleted 3 times before it went up. Terrye’s was deleted several times, too.
as for this comment:
MayBee| Aug 11, 2008 2:08:59 PM
It was edited as I said and remains so. I don’t know, maybe I was insulting in some way that I don’t recall, but I didn’t just lose my post in your volume of blogging.
I really do appreciate all of your hard work and you.
I’m not accusing you or anyone at ABC of bias, by the way. I think you do an amazing job.
I still don’t think your monitors are being completely straight with you, but I’ll drop it.
If they can edit posts, as they obviously can, why don’t they just strip out the URLs of otherwise acceptable comments?
Finally, there should be a statement near the comment entry site stating that posts containing URLS will be edited and/or deleted.
That would be helpful.
Thanks again.
Posted by: MayBee | October 2, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am
Hi Jake-
I’m the author of the blog post that started this whole thing. On the night or two I was watching, the conservative comments were being deleted with regularity. Some of those comments fit neatly within one of the many categories you’ve listed above. But many did not, including one comment that still appears on my tiny blog (link omitted per ABC rules). You can add as many updates as you want, and I will never be convinced of anything other than the monitors wanting to create an impression that liberal thought outweighed conservative thought. In that sense, your comment section (at least on the two nights in question) was a microcosm of mainstream media bias – which is especially sad, since I think you’re one of the very few who is being fair with your reporting on the presidential campaign.
I wish you would’ve taken responsibility for what really happened, and vowed to clean it up – rather than line up your defenses – and then conclude by insinuating that the problem was a bunch of idiots talking about gay sex and the like.
It turns out this place is like all the others.
Posted by: ja | October 2, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
Young man, your integrity is refreshing and appreciated. It is something that has been missing from the MSM for decades.
For those claiming there is no media bias, it would take from now until eternity to list even half of the ways in which the MSM distorts, twists, manipulates, omits and out right LIES about people and events in their on going support of the dnc and “The Anointed One”. As the efforts of the MSM increases exponentially, there will never be an end until they reach the point where a marist/socialist/islamofascit government is in place and then shuts down the MSM as not being in total support of the government.
Because what they see when they choose to ignore the open bias is that such never exists. A small example, when curic was suppose to be “interviewing” Gov. Palin, curic DEMANDED that her staff omit the word “GOVENOR” when referring to Gov. Palin. When questioned on this, curic contacted c bs executives and received approval. BIAS? No, there was no bias. When gibson “interviewed” Gov. Palin, he raised questions about some of her previous comments, when she questioned if she’d used those exact words, gibson LIED and stated, “those exact words”. Hmmmm, seems that the TRUTH is alien to him as well.
IF Gov. Palin committed the same gaffs and screw ups that “The Bloviator” committed/commits, the MSM would be all over her like ants on a cube of sugar.
Posted by: TheEnigma47 | October 2, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
Jake,
I’m raising the BS flag on this. I just had my posts “disappeared” 4 times today. Someone at ABC doesn’t like criticism of Obama.
Posted by: sfcmac | May 13, 2009, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm