Anti-Defamation League Weighs In on McCain/World Anti-Communist League Controversy
Because of the Ayers story, lots of folks for all sorts of reasons are looking for other "guilt by association" stories about Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.
The ADL has weighed in one — the McCain/World Anti-Communist League controversy.
It doesn’t seem to me as though the ADL thinks there’s a whole lot of "there" there.
Says the ADL:
"In discussions in the media regarding Sen. John McCain and his supposed 1980’s connection to World Anti-Communist League (WACL), the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) is cited as having labeled the group as a forum for extremists, racists, and anti-Semites.
" * In its 1981 report, Terrorism’s Targets: Democracy, Israel and Jews, ADL described the WACL as ‘a gathering place, a forum, and a point of contact for extremists, racists, and anti-Semites.’ (Page 23 of the report — page 25 of the pdf.)
" * In the 1980’s, then-Congressman John McCain served as a member of the Board of Directors of the United States Council for World Freedom (USCWF), an affiliate of the World Anti-Communist League (WACL).
" * At the time, the Chair of the USCWF organization was John K. Singlaub, a retired Major General, who also served as the Chair of the WACL.
" * In a 1985 ‘Letter to the Editor’ of The Village Voice, ADL stated that General Singlaub had made a concerted effort to rid WACL of anti-Semitism and that, ‘While ADL doesn’t possess enough information to be able to give WACL a totally clean bill of health, we [were] satisfied that substantial progress has been made since 1981 in ridding the organization of racists and anti-Semites whose presence led us to publicly express our concern at that time.’
" * ADL has no information that at that time John McCain was aware of or had any connections with the WACL."
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Maybe Sarah Palin can talk about this at her next press conference. Oh, wait…
Posted by: Reality-based | October 9, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
John McCain did not disclose his position on the board even though he was required to do so as a member of Congress.
What is he hiding?
Posted by: Ryan C | October 9, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
We are dangerously close to repeating the McCarthy era of paranoia, finger pointing and guilt by association.
Posted by: Prometheus | October 9, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm
Wasn’t Obama on a honorable board of an anti-poverty group? Doing good work for American people and society?
And McCain on a board of “a gathering place, a forum, and a point of contact for extremists, racists, and anti-Semites”? Planning funds and strategies for death squadrons in South America?
Anyone notice the difference?
Jake, do you?
Posted by: herta | October 9, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
WAS JOHN MCCAIN palling around with know terrorist G Gorden Liddy?
The one on the Nixon tapes proposing that Democrats and anti-war demonstrators be killed?
The one who coordinated the Watergate and Daniel Ellsberg’s psychiatrist’s office breakins on BEHALF OF THE REPUBLICAN ADMINISTRATION of Richard Nixon?
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Personally, I would like to thank John against-bush-tax-cuts-then-for-em McCain.
By diverting his own campaign from substansive issues that might mean something to voters, he has wasted day after precious day of time before the election.
Posted by: John McCain's conscience | October 9, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
Jake, please explain why would call it ‘guilt-by-association’ if McCain served on a board of a group that is DIRECTLY linked to international terrorism (death squadrons, political assassinations etc)?
Guilt by guilt, would be the right term.
Obama was an perfectly respectable board with various people from different background, Republicans but also Prof. Ayers who did despicable things when he was young. These things had nothing to do with what the board/Woods foundation was about though.
Compare that to the World Anti-Communist League.
The USCWF was founded in Phoenix, Arizona in November 1981 as an offshoot of the World Anti-Communist League. The group was, from the onset, saddled with the disreputable reputation of its parent group. The WACL had ties to ultra-right figures and Latin American death squads. Roger Pearson, the chairman of the WACL, was expelled from the group in 1980 under allegations that he was a member of a neo-Nazi organization.
The U.S. Council of World Freedom claimed to be cleansed of these elements. The group’s director, retired Major General John Singlaub, said he had purged some of the more “kooky” members, including a Mexican chapter that “blamed everything on the Jews,” and “even accused Pope John Paul of being a Jew.” The Anti-Defamation League, once critical, applauded Singlaub for his efforts. Moreover, the USCWF was granted a sense of political legitimacy when President Ronald Reagan addressed the group in September 1984.
But the group’s secret activities were still controversial. It claimed to support “pro-Democratic resistance movements fighting communist totalitarianism.” And during the 1980s it became a vehicle for the Reagan administration to prop up some of the more totalitarian, anti-communist efforts in Central America.
Posted by: megan | October 9, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
I turn off the TV so my daughter can not see Sarah Palin.
Hillary Clinton. Madeline Albright. are the type of leaders I want my daugther to look up to.
Posted by: PALIN | October 9, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
DOES John McCain sound more and more like Joe McCarthy?
Of course, to the right wing extremists, that will be perceived as praise!
Posted by: John McCain's conscience | October 9, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
This is all silly stuff, and we have no one else to blame but the McCain camp. Why distract us from issues that truly matter? McCain has made tons of mistakes and poor judgments in his life. Palin still sleeps with someone who was a member of the secessionist Alaskan Independence Party until just a few years ago. Has the Obama camp raised all those things as some sort of core issues? What a waste of our time!
Posted by: chris | October 9, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
The McCain campaign has waged a hateful & yes insidious racist campaign the past few days. Its shameful & a black mark on America’s image. Rather then merely reporting on the rhetoric, isnt it time you took a stand on this? Do you really want your next President to be tarnished like this? Out of common decency , call the McCain campaign on these horrific tactics & get them back on track before it gets even further out of hand!!! They are inciting an angry mob mentality that everyone is now recognizing could get out of control Do the right thing & call it as it is!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Dee | October 9, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm
McCain, by having been on this board, is part of one the most painful and scandalous chapters in America history.
In Afghanistan, the World Anti-Communist League was headed by….
well?
by Osama Bin Laden. You read that right: OSAMA BIN LADEN.
Talking about Bin Laden -
in 1998, John McCain gave an interview to Mother Jones in September. His interview was published in the November/December 1998 issue. Here’s an excerpt from that damning interview:
Mother Jones: You not only have had combat experience in Vietnam, but you were also a prisoner of war. When you look at terrorism right now, with people like Osama bin Laden, do you have any reservations about watching strikes like that?
John McCain: You could say, Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that’s depicted? Most of us have never heard of him before.
I beg your pardon? This 1998 interview took place in mid-September, right after the August 7 1998 bombings of the U.S. embassy, which was attributed to Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda!!!
Posted by: keraton | October 9, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
Really, why is it that Republicans can’t admit that they have really badly screwed this country over, and that, for the most part, they’re immoral, uneducated, irresponsible bums? It would be the first step towards actually becoming conservative, beginning to have respect and understanding for their country and world, and raising themselves out of the gutter. Instead – as modern Republicans tend to do – McCain and Palin lunge for the gutter, like rats lunging for garbage. But – amazingly – Americans appear to be waking up – finally – and not buying the crap anymore. McCain and Palin look more like trash with each passing day, as if someone was tearing the big green garbage-bag facade from the filth that lies inside. I would be ashamed had I supported an adminsitration that launched an unnecessary war and destroyed the economy of my country. Why can’t Republicans summon up even a tiny bit of shame for the evil they are responsible for? No Christian could support mass murder or mass-murderers – so who are the self-proclaimed religious folks consistenly voting republican? No patriot would ever support an unnecessary war. Thankfully, the republicans are going to go down hard this time, and all of the appeals to prejudice, racism, and fear mongering only reveal their sickness and evil.
Posted by: bob | October 9, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
Obama is a chain smoker? How does he ever have the balls to talk about health care solutions with a straight face? With all the medical knowledge we have today, smoking is just plain dumb!! Obama – what a role model for youngsters!!
Posted by: Temagami | October 9, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
“the Obama campaign is going off the deep end panicking”
HA! HAHAHA !!HHA HAHHAAAAA!
EVERY national poll shows Obama with the biggest lead in US history.
The only thing the Obama campaign is panicking about is whether they will win by a just any landslide, or by the biggest landslide in US election history.
The more McCain goes down in the polls, the stupider the republicans get when they post here!
Posted by: clifton | October 9, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
Like Obama, I would be a chain smoker too if I was running for President! And, I have never smoked!!
Posted by: Sloaned | October 9, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
Glad to see that the racists are out in force to defend the leader of the lynch mob, Grand Wizard McCain.
Posted by: Drew Nicholas | October 9, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm
Why did John McCain leave the mother of his kids in 1980 to marry a 17 year younger woman he met in 1979?
Family values?
Being a good father?
Honor?
Posted by: mama jones | October 9, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm
“the Obama campaign is going off the deep end panicking”
yeah I guess because he’s leading McCain by 11 points in today’s and yesterday’s Gallup tracking poll and because most of the electoral vote projection sites predict a landslide for Obama
Posted by: kevin | October 9, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
Yes, 1980 was a good year for McCain. He betrayed his wife, ran away from his children to marry a very rich witch, plus he stepped on board of one the most infamous militant right wing organizations in the world.
Boy, what a great CV for a US President.
Posted by: greg | October 9, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm
The WACL as recently as 1978 called for the military overthrow of the US government and was composed of ex SS and other Nazis. How can you clean that up? By the time McCain joined it Reverend Moon money was already flowing into it which i guess makes it acceptable as the Washington Times?
Posted by: JL | October 9, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
Jake,
Guilt by association, by definition, is not “fair”. It is not refutable even by reputable sources. That is the point. So that’s why this whole business is nonsense. I would encourage you to move on to more important matters.
Posted by: MIguy | October 9, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm
As a freshman congressman in the early 1980s, John McCain did not disclose his connections to a controversial group that was implicated in a secretive plot to supply arms to Nicaraguan militia groups during the Iran-Contra affair.
McCain did not list his service on the board of the U.S. Council for World Freedom on mandatory congressional disclosure forms asking about positions he held outside government.
McCain’s aides said he wasn’t required to report the affiliation.
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A review of the personal financial disclosure forms McCain filed after his election to the U.S. House in 1982 show that he did not list the group in the section of his 1982, 1983 and 1984 reports in which he was required to disclose all positions he held outside of government.
The instructions on the form require filers to report “the identity of all positions held on or before the date of the filing during the current calendar year as an officer, director, trustee, partner, proprietor, representative, employee, or consultant of any corporation, firm, partnership, or other business enterprise, any nonprofit organization, any labor organization, or any educational or other institution.”
Posted by: secret | October 9, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
MCCAIN HAS BEEN ENDORSED BY THE KKK!!!!
HIS CAMPAIGN IS BECOMING FULL OF HATE AND RACIST!!!!!
MCCAIN IS THE REAL TERRORIST!!!!
OBAMA/BIDEN08
Posted by: sisterdearest09 | October 9, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
NYT: Palins Repeatedly Pressed Case Against Trooper
The NY Times is reporting tonight that Walt Monegan received over 3 dozen calls from the Palins and aides calling for the removal of Mike Wooten, Palin’s ex-brother in-law.
The bombshell which is preceding tomorrow’s release of the official report into Troopergate offers more details into the sordid affair with recollections of specific events that finger Sarah Palin’s involvement in pressuring her public safety commissioner to fire her ex-brother in law.
Ms. Palin has denied that anyone told Mr. Monegan to dismiss Mr. Wooten, or that the commissioner’s ouster had anything to do with the trooper. But an examination of the case, based on interviews with Mr. Monegan and several top aides, indicates that, to a far greater degree than was previously known, the governor, her husband and her administration pressed the commissioner and his staff to get Mr. Wooten off the force, though without directly ordering it.
The story makes it clear that there was direct contact from Gov. Palin herself regarding this case.
In all, the commissioner and his aides were contacted about Mr. Wooten three dozen times over 19 months by the governor, her husband and seven administration officials, interviews and documents show.
“To all of us, it was a campaign to get rid of him as a trooper and, at the very least, to smear the guy and give him a desk job somewhere,” said Kim Peterson, Mr. Monegan’s special assistant, who like several other aides spoke publicly about the matter for the first time.
Needless to say, this is a huge story, Jake.
Posted by: mcnasty | October 9, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm
Interesting article from Roland Martin:
if we are to use the association tag as evidence of a candidate being unfit for president, what about McCain serving and working alongside people with virulent bigoted pasts like Sens. Jesse Helms, Strom Thurmond and Robert Byrd?
Do we have evidence that these individuals committed specific acts against African-Americans during Jim Crow? No. But we do know that their hateful words, and willingness to uphold laws that were absolutely anti-American, did not represent the best of this nation.
Thurmond ran for president as a Dixiecrat in 1948 with a platform of maintaining segregation. Based on Helms’ policies, he didn’t see blacks as full Americans.
Posted by: Chelle in Fla | October 9, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm
Obama camp is blasting the media will everthing to bury the Ayers connection.
They did the same thing last time it came up.
Making it seem That Obama is hiding something.
Well any man who lie so much about Ayers stating he barely knew him and was just a man in his neighborhood. When he had a personal and close relationship to him for 20 years. Needs investigated.
Obama and Ayers were friends for a long long time
Obama was taken in by Thomas Ayers, Now In Chicago that was a Pretty Big thing.
Thomas Ayers was the who of who in Chicago,
Posted by: seah | October 9, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm
1987 William Ayers meets Barack Obama 1987 Michelle Obama and Bernadette Dohrn work at Sidney Austin law firm
1988 Ayers solicits Khalid Al-Mansour to raise money for Obama’s Harvard law School education
1989 Tom Ayers and William Ayers get Obama a summer job at Sidley & Austin (where he meets Michelle Obama); .
1993 Ayers places Obama on Woods Foundation
1995 Ayers makes Obama Chairman of Annenberg Challenge through 2000
1995 Ayers hosts a coffee klatch for Obama’s political debut (Obama falsely claims this is when he met Ayers)
1997 Obama and Ayers were on a juvenile justice panel sponsored by the University of Chicago
1997-2004 Obama Illinois Legislature
2002 Obama and Ayers panel on intellectualism that was co-sponsored by the Chicago Public Library
2005 – Present US Senate
2007-2008 The structure of Obama’s presidential campaign increasingly comes to resemble an Ayers-designed national “community organizer matrix” straight out of Maoist theory. This is not merely a presidential “campaign.” Obama’s organization is the first installment of an ongoing movement being paid for with tax-exempt contributions to his campaign, approaching half a billion dollars.
2008 Obama in response to ABC News, Obama tells a national TV audience he was “six years old” when Ayers bombed federal buildings, and they are only casual neighborhood acquaintances. A lie
Ayers bombed federal buildings, and they are only casual neighborhood acquaintances.
Posted by: seah | October 9, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm
Apparently the ADL thinks Obama is a better friend of Israel than McCain. But then again Foxman was always more than wiling to change his mind for a kickback or two. Some people come pretty cheap…
Posted by: hmn | October 9, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
please read article out at . sarah and Todd Palin association with Akaska Independant party. They do not have nice things to say about us nor our flag. She even told them this year to keep up the good work. She will now wish she had not lied about Obama’s relation with Ayers. Tomorrow we will see why Sarah and MCCain wanted to stop investigation.
Posted by: Betsy | October 9, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
re:Post by: bob | Oct 9, 2008 10:13:59 PM
Really, why is it that Democrats can’t admit that they have really badly screwed this country over, and that, for the most part, they’re immoral, overeducated, irresponsible bums? It would be the first step towards actually becoming responsible, beginning to have respect and understanding for their country and world, and raising themselves out of the gutter. Instead – as modern Democrats tend to do – Obama/Biden lunge for the gutter, like rats lunging for garbage.
Best wishes.
Posted by: Dave in lv | October 9, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
IT’S GREAT TO SEE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY SO DAMN DESPERATE! IT’S THE SMELL OF SWEET SUCCESS AND MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!
Posted by: dvine | October 9, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
IT’S ALWAYS THE CORRUPT REPUBLICANS WHO SCREW OVER THIS GREAT NATION WITH THEIR GREED AND LACK OF LEADERSHIP.. AND AS ALWAYS IT’S THE DEMOCRATS WHO HAVE TO COME INTO OFFICE AND CORRECT THE REPUBLICAN MESS..
OBAMA/BIDEN- CHANGE FOR GOOD
Posted by: dvine | October 9, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm
Honestly, there’s as much “there” there in this McCain/Singlaub connection as there is in the Obama/Ayers connection. Which is to say, there’s not much at all.
But for the sake of equal coverage, given how breathlessly ABC and other media outlets have followed the Ayers story and perpetuated the McCain camp’s groundless smears against Obama’s character, how about giving this story some legs?
Fair and balanced, right?
Too often Tapper seems like a GOP shill. I’m sure that he is, but lately he’s been coming off that way, especially in his hyping the “Bracelet-Gate” non-story.
Disgraceful. I’d expect that kind of crap from FOX, but not from ABC.
Posted by: R | October 9, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
Those supporting Barack Obama knows he is so dirty that his opponents needs to be brought down to the level of the sewer where Obama presides with his anti-Americans associations. Senator Obama does not tell the truth about himself, his policies for tomorrow, or his opponents. Those supporting Obama are waiting for his free hand-outs, not changes good for the average American families or society. His changes are nothing more than socialists ideas. Take from the responsibles and give to the irresponsibles. SOCIALISM IS NOT AN AMERICAN IDEAL. INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY IS AN AMERICAN IDEAL.
Posted by: Marla | October 9, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
Let’s see Ayers, Wright, Mohammad. oh yeah and Farrakan, the one that called obama the Messiah today while giving a speech in front of a large group of Muslim Clerics. Nice. He is now the Messiah!!
Posted by: Kim | October 9, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm
IT’S ALWAYS THE CORRUPT REPUBLICANS WHO SCREW OVER THIS GREAT NATION WITH THEIR GREED AND LACK OF LEADERSHIP..
Posted by: dvine | Oct 9, 2008 11:15:30 PM
However, Fannie and Freddie were making major payoffs, “contributions” to Dodd, Dem, Obama, Dem, and a large number of other Dems.
The top guys who ran and looted Freddie and Fannie were also Dems.
Frank became a lover to a senior executive of Fannie Mae and states his consistent support for anything Fannie requested was not influenced by his personal relationship.
For the last 2 years Dems controlled the committees overseeing Fannie and Freddie. They actively blocked proposed reforms to reduce risk.
Many experts believe the current economic problem was largely due to Fannie and Freddie actions.
It appears the facts don’t support you.
Posted by: Dave in lv | October 9, 2008, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm
Anti-Defamation L. Should look at the comments and harassment of the democrats when Gov. Palin was select to be V.P nominee to the republican party. Why Obama campaign send 30 lawyer to Alaska to try to come out with dirt about Gov. Palin.
ABC is worse than the national inquirer when it comes to defame people.
Posted by: Real_Thinker | October 9, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm
The McCain / Palin rallies are frightening. Of course people have the right to free speech: that’s a fundamental right in the Constitution. But shouts of “Kill him” etc., etc.? No. The fact that both of these candidates refuse to take responsibility for the increasing fervor in rallies that are starting to look as if they were being held in Germany in 1933 is an insult to democracy.
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The only thing missing from a McCain/Palin rally are people actually wearing their hoods and sheets.
Posted by: McCain/Palin = Corporations First | October 9, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
the starlit sedona night.. chicken and steak fed you by the hero himself… homemade ice cream… the warmth of the hero’s beneficent smile at you and the lover… do his bidding now.. who knows… press secretary… and the lover back… his smile even warmer because on the side is even better… just like him… all yours… for the marching orders….
Posted by: matt | October 9, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
McCain is stuck in the past. He is all about war and thinks war is the solution to any disagreement. Are we not tired of this? Have we not lost enough of our precious and brave soldiers? Enough is enough. This must stop now.
Posted by: Al Jones | October 9, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm
Hey Sarah-Why not crawl out from under your rock and answer questions about your and the First Dud’s involvement in the AIP successionist movement. Seems a little Unamerican to me.Got something to hide?
Posted by: Pa Girl | October 9, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm
PALIN-You are an idiot, you should be letting your daughter see a variety of women in power and let her make her own decisions, she will encounter many different types in her life time, knowledge is power.
Posted by: Kim | October 10, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am
I feel badly for McCain. I believe he is a good, honorable, decent man. Political campaigns are about who can spin the best story with the public. His campaign is not good at that. Obama’s campaign, has either been really lucky or they are more skilled. The campaign has nothing to do with how the person will govern. We don’t really know that in Obama’s case. We have some idea in McCain’s case. Unfortunately, McCain would probably have been a great President if he had been elected eight years ago. His time has run out. He is an American hero, though.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | October 10, 2008, 12:10 am 12:10 am
Did you know James B. Fowler, McCain’s friend who was busted for smuggling heroin out of Thailand, is the same guy who shot Jimmie Johnson, an unarmed black man, and set off a movement that led to The Voting Rights Act? Ironic that McCain knows the guy whose killing of an unarmed black man led to the Voting Rights Act. Very Ironic.
Posted by: kravitz | October 10, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am
We all need to remember, The John McCain & most Republicans moto: By any means necessary! Lie, cheat If that does not work, Lie & cheat some more.
Shady associations = McCain/Palin, Dump sick wife for new trophy rich wife = McCain. Fire Staff memeber for not firing Ex Brother in law = Palin! Christain Morals. Not! They can not win on policy so here come’s smear tactics gain. The world is watching this.
Posted by: Sherry H | October 10, 2008, 12:43 am 12:43 am
The U.S. Council for World Freedom became controversial when it became the public cover for the White House’s covert operation to fund the Contras without congressional approval, with Singlaub working in secret with Oliver North to raise money from foreign governments.
McCain sat on the advisory board of this group, which subverted US laws by covertly funding the contras. This is not a tenuous guilt-by-association fallacy, but direct involvement which makes any ‘ayers’ connection pale in comparison.
Posted by: sammy | October 10, 2008, 12:47 am 12:47 am
The nime e1ev3n was perhaps planned as a way of ensuring a 2nd term? Governemnt l1st ening on everyone was perhaps because knowing of these obscene stock market lowerings?
By automatically throwing money into the markets per standard, the govrnmnt is just teaching the markets to continue selling off to obtain more powers.
If one where to require health care via companies only, then one could decrease funds to government employees and amplify all mistakes they make as a reason to pr vatis e everything. A true leader is the person who can implement the work processes for the organisation which works in a reasonably safe and cheap way. Talk to both people who work in pr vate and pub 1ic sect or (wage, how much extra redicoulous work, office environment) – and see if it is exactly the same – if not, someone prefers to create the mu lti-bil lionaires, instead of having well functioning p ub 1ic se ct 0r serv ices.
So, think about it. Where has the de mocracy gone, truly? And why? If v oter turn-out numbers is easy to mani pulate in the systems – then why not have everyone who v oted on one candidate going to stadiums afterwards, to see which cand idate gets the most people there.
Posted by: Steve | October 10, 2008, 12:47 am 12:47 am
Good Christian Values? Not McCain/Palin. Can not win on policy, so bring in the smear tactics. Guilty by association= McCain/Palin! Dump 1st wife for rich trophy wife=McCain! Fire Staff member because would not fire ex brother in law=Palin!
Posted by: Sherry H. | October 10, 2008, 12:48 am 12:48 am
Dave in IV : Did you really write that part of the problem is people that are “overeducated”? That’s what’s wrong with the populist movement. I don’t want a president that I can “picture myself having a beer with” – I want my president to be smarter than me, better spoken, too busy to barbecue because they’re, I don’t know, leading the free world? That’s why the G.O.P. is dying. Everyone except them knows that presidents should be exceptional. Everyone but them wants an exceptional leader.
Posted by: james | October 10, 2008, 12:52 am 12:52 am
Maybe this cr issis is only a massive psychological test on how normal persons react to group financial problems? Easier ma mipolated..
Posted by: Man | October 10, 2008, 1:09 am 1:09 am
McCain’s smear campaign is really showing everyone that he really has no plan for this country. Why don’t they present a coherent economic plan so people will listen. My 401 and 457 plans lost 50 percent of their value. So why would I listen to this nonsense campaign he is running.
Posted by: redgirl | October 10, 2008, 1:29 am 1:29 am
America needs to be asking…
What do we really know about McCain?
and
What do we really know about Palin?
Vote Obama-Biden ’08
Posted by: Leah | October 10, 2008, 2:01 am 2:01 am
Oh well we will use it anyway. McCain is not telling us all he knows, he is keeping it secret, is he one of us? I think we need to clear the air. The people have questions. He was born in a foreign country, what do we really know about his allegiance? I suspect something.
Posted by: Thinking | October 10, 2008, 2:14 am 2:14 am
McCain sure is demagoguing the crisis now.
Posted by: Danny | October 10, 2008, 2:38 am 2:38 am
The American people better wake up and open their ears and eyes and listen to what is going on. If McCain wins the presidency and he dies, he will leave the presidency to Mati-Hari, who comes from the Alaskan freedom party to aid Russia in taking the American country without firing a single bullet. This whole thing is so scary. The only thing that we will have left is our guns and religion.
Posted by: mary | October 10, 2008, 2:40 am 2:40 am
Thinking ahead.
Does it bother anybody that the various charges, slanderings, accusations, the very ability of a political party to brand an obvious American citizern as somehow foreign means that there is a large audience who are like minded? The violent lurch to the extreme right wing by the McCain , The RNC and their proxies, seems to be the beginning of a deepening of desperation, but also a troubling leadership crisis within the Republican party. The choice? Integrate the various extreme right wing fringe groups with the Party platform. McCain’s positions and lies are Hitlerite in the eerie manner in which they are endlessly repeated and drummed upon until bit by bit, in tiny increments, the absurdites are gradually allowed in discussion. It is very obvious the Hitlerite technique of repeating lies is working to a degree. If a man is a child when someone else commits a crime, does that crime infect a non participant? Yet it is repeated until it is a blemish somehow, next, there is linkage to equally unrelated topics, until, there is s solid block of misinformation to package. Damage: There is a large segment of fringe individuals to whom this type of rhetoric is inflamatory and to whom such subject matter most likely will inflame to action. I hope the secret service heard the “call” at a McCain rally that someone might “volunteer” related to Sen. Obama. What is this person supposed to step forward to do? I certainly did not imagine this. Can the Republican ticket be this extreme? To publicly make such a call for something to be done to Senator Obama? My last point is that Senator McCain will go down in history as the first candidate to have his campaign be the possible spawning event for racial warfare. Very saddening.
Posted by: Curtis | October 10, 2008, 5:10 am 5:10 am
Mary Wrote :” If McCain wins the presidency and he dies, he will leave the presidency to Mati-Hari, who comes from the Alaskan freedom party to aid Russia in taking the American country without firing a single bullet.”
I am also becoming worried about if McCain lives. Is he really excercising the judgement of someone who wishes to lead? HOW can this man lead a nation he is dividing on such harsh terms? It is good to win an election, but once elected, what are his options? Having in the process of winning, alienated a very substantial portion of the populace, what are his governing
options? Repression? Do you think the election is thought through this time? In the midst of such a crisis, after “assuming” power, how can this regime lead ? Who will they lead? They have no plan…just all these zigs and zags , hoping to keep the game alive until the election and win a divided country. John McCain ! Patriot?
Posted by: Curtis | October 10, 2008, 5:24 am 5:24 am
Hearing about & watching some of the Palin/McCain rallies is frightening. Palin and McCain are not holding a rally, THEY ARE TRYING TO INCITE A RIOT!
The only thing coming out of Palin’s mouth is HATRED AND RACISM. How dare she comment on Obama and Ayers, when her closet is full of skeletons and she is currently under investigation.
OBAMA/BIDEN 08 & 12
Posted by: Debbie, Columbia, SC | October 10, 2008, 6:12 am 6:12 am
Whoa!!! The trouble with our economy etc. is all the democrates fault! Who’s been in office for 8 years???? I guess we’re headed more of the same if McCain gets in. People are losing money and there’s more of it to come. Maybe if you wake up, and check what has been taken from you, you may change your mind, hopefully.
Posted by: kmn | October 10, 2008, 6:36 am 6:36 am
Why can’t McCain/Palin stick to the issues. McCain wants to bail out homeowners – where’s the money coming from? Health care – wants to put a plan through that we’ll end paying taxes on? Does this make sense? McCain says helping the homeowners mistake?? I guess so when he can’t even answer where the money is coming from. Palin can’t answer questions – as she doesn’t know the answers. This is what we need in office. She says troopergate is closed – wow still investigating. All they are doing is a dirty politics campaign, slamming others. They had better look at what they have done. Are their records clear? I think not. McCain has a lot behind him – why isn’t he answering to this” How about Palin?
Let’s not have dirty politics – issues are the key. People are worried about losing everything, unable to retire due to losing their retirement savings. Why aren’t they talking about this, just smear tactics.
McCain/Palin are not the ones to lead this country. McCain is skirting the issues, being eratic. Palin does not have the experience to lead the country. How can she be, doesn’t know anything about the economy, foreign policy and very little about energy, and unable to answer questions. More of the same with Bush – now just McCain/Palin.
What happen to facing t
Posted by: kmn | October 10, 2008, 7:09 am 7:09 am
the real republican party has left and gone to regroup, after bush ruined their brand,
the people at mccain and paline rallys
are some folks from
rent-a-mob
(to have the torches is extra)
Posted by: wow | October 10, 2008, 9:28 am 9:28 am
Jake writes: “Because of the Ayers story, lots of folks for all sorts of reasons are looking for other “guilt by association” stories about Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.”
Yet lots of folks are looking to emulate the wacko guilt by association tactics of the Republicans. Thank heavens it is not Barak Obama, who continues to address issues related to our economic future.
Posted by: ricky | October 10, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am
I remember, on our TV Channels, we showed some rallies in Middle East countries where people were “Kill American” and other hate filled chanting… We called them Terrorists….
NOW, here we are at the McPalin’s campaign, people are chanting almost similar statements, if not worst than those… What do we do NOW?
Something is really Wrong…..
Posted by: RA | October 10, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am
That’s the problem with guilt by association… it’s BS.
It was BS when McCain uses it against Obama, it would be BS if Obama were using it against McCain.
The closest the Obama campaign has come is the Keating 5… which wasn’t so much “association” as much as it was political favors to help a criminal fleece the taxpayers.
Posted by: Blip | October 10, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am
Maybe nothing there….but maybe some investigation should be done into John McCain’s noted public displays of temper including one against his wife. It goes to who John McCain really is. Quick-tempered and erratic. I also have never heard John McCain questioned on how he committed adultery on his first wife with Cindy and his carousing. Again, goes to his character. I think in all fairness if questioning Obama on Ayres is justified then questioning McCain on these incidents is fair as well. Who is the real John McCain?
Posted by: indy_voter | October 10, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am
The Repubs can dish it out, but they can’t take it! They throw mud about the association of Ayers and Obama, and make up crap in doing so. McCain’s association with WACL is a FACT! That group, headed by John Singlaub, was associated with all sorts of right-wing death squads in El Salvador and Nicaragua. I can’t believe that McCain didn’t know about that, and he probably backed it bedcasue those death squads were killing “communists,” like those Jesuit priests in El Salvador back in 1983!
Then there is the Keating Five, and can you imagine the likes of Hannity and Limbaugh going after any Democrat involved if that issue were going on today. But let’s fast forward to McCain’s ties to his campaign manager, Rick Davis, of Fannie Mae, and Phil Gram, the one Repugnantcan Senator mostly responsible for getting rid of the Glass-Steagle bill that set up the regulations that banks, insurance companies, and stock brokerage firms had to abide by for decades! Enougn said! If you now still ant to vote for McPalin, you are an un-Amerikan fascist!
Posted by: L.D. Freitas | October 10, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am
“The closest the Obama campaign has come is the Keating 5… which wasn’t so much “association” as much as it was political favors to help a criminal fleece the taxpayers.”
The Keating 5 is not guilt by association when McCain was one of the Keating 5.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 10, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm
What I got to know is – Who is Barack Obama?
I say bring out all the facts of all the candidates. Why does Obama react so defensively when people want to know about his past? Looks like he’s just trying to run out the clock before people find out.
McCain and Biden have been vetted for years. We know both of these ol’ guys. But who is this man who wants so bad to be the leader of the free world?
Posted by: Rich Ng | October 10, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
When you hear the people at the McCain Palin rallies it you’re looking at how hateful some of these people really are.And to think that we have to intermingle with people like this at any given time.These people should be on a watch list they sound pretty radical.To be able to yell out the hatful words they do is something to hear and yet say that this is the USA.
Posted by: damehen | October 10, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
Thanks, Google! Now Perhaps Barack Can Explain His New Party Membership
Illinois: Three NP-members won Democratic primaries last Spring and face off against Republican opponents on election day: Danny Davis (U.S. House), Barack Obama (State Senate) and Patricia Martin (Cook County Judiciary).
New Party establishes that not only was the party an amalgamation of far left groups, but Barack Obama knew that when he sought the party’s endorsement.
Posted by: CrystalD | October 10, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
One day we will all look back at this election season and be ashamed. In case you ever wondered, this is what racism looks like. It is the journalists assisting McCain in slandering a candidate because of his race.
When was the last time that a candidate with Obama’s credentials was said to be unqualified to be president? The columns that perpetuate lies are plentiful. The writers pretend that they are informing the people, because that lets them sleep at night.
Posted by: JTIS | October 10, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
I don’t recall reading that Palin released her own Troopergate report exonerating herself. That is ludicrous enough to discuss, don’t you think. Where is the public outrage at the race baiting at McCain’s rallys? Why won’t the networks call him on it? Why do they continue to smear Obama (Ayers) when they know the truth? Where is the integrity in journalism? Where are the real journalists? I think we should boycott all sites that do not treat both candidates equally. Not to do so is to condone the behavior. To paraphrase the adage, we must stand for something or we will fall for anything.
Posted by: Ihjt | October 10, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
Over 100 econimists, including 5 Nobel Prize winners, signed a letter today that stated that Obama’s overall proposals would negatively effect the economic crisis that we are in. 1) taxing corporations will only force more corporations to move oversees, reducing American jobs
2) Taxing the wealthy, who already pay much higher percentages than others, will only cause them to invest overseas, bank overseas, and live overseas
His socialistic plan for healthcare will diminish the quality of healthcare for everyone, and these are jsut a few of the valid points
Posted by: sgrass | October 12, 2008, 12:40 am 12:40 am