As Dow Plummets, McCain Campaign Highlights Palin’s Attacking Obama on Ayers
This morning the McCain-Palin campaign blast-emailed Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s attack in Clearwater, Florida, on Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., regarding his relationship with William Ayers.
"I was reading my copy of The New York Times the other day, and I was really interested to read about Barack’s friends from Chicago," Palin said. "Turns out, one of his earliest supporters is a man named Bill Ayers. And according to The New York Times, he was a domestic terrorist and part of a group that, quote, “launched a campaign of bombings that would target the Pentagon and the U.S. Capitol.” Wow. And there’s even more to the story. Barack Obama said Ayers was just someone in the neighborhood. But that’s less than truthful. His own top advisor said they were, quote, ‘certainly friendly.’ In fact, Obama held one of the first meetings of his political career in Bill Ayers’s home. And they’ve worked together on various projects in Chicago."
Senior Obama adviser David Axelrod told CNN that Obama had no idea who Ayers was when he visited his home in 1995.
"When he went he certainly, he didn’t know the history," Axelrod said.
"It’s a dangerous road, but we have no choice," a top McCain strategist told the Daily News of their new strategy to attack Obama’s character. "If we keep talking about the economic crisis, we’re going to lose."
Meanwhile, on Wall Street, the Dow Jones just fell below 10,000.
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The McCain campaign has picked a perfect time to “turn the page” on the economy — but apparently forgot to tell the stock market that it should stop being so maverick-y, droppin’ so much like that, so fast! Gosh darn it.
Posted by: JTom | October 6, 2008, 10:35 am 10:35 am
Vote McCain/Palin
COUNTRY LAST
Posted by: Paige | October 6, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am
Get angry people
throw these bums to the curb.
Posted by: dl | October 6, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am
Talk about your priorities. But this is exactly what McCain needs to do. He must gamble on character attacks despite the bad economy, and hope that voters get distracted.
Posted by: matt | October 6, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am
Jake, you and the MSM are supposed to make the connection between Ayers and the economy yourselves. If Obama had issued a timely denunciation of Ayers when he was eight years old, the DOW would be above 15,000. It is your fault and Obama’s.
Posted by: ricky | October 6, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am
The McCain campaign wisely chose Palin as the person to bring up these connections since we know from the videotapes she is 100% free of witchcraft.
Posted by: ricky | October 6, 2008, 10:41 am 10:41 am
The issue from now to November is the economy. Unless McCain is willing to share his fortune with the rest of America… it’s the economy.
Obama has to nail McCain on the economy tomorrow. Bash McCain on trying to “turn the page”. Many Americans simply can’t just turn the page. This isn’t a mantal recession. We can’t just “turn the page”.
That would be a very effective agrument. Obama should stay away from the Keating Five argument unless McCain brings up Ayers.
Posted by: Vanessa | October 6, 2008, 10:41 am 10:41 am
The McCain campaign wanted to talk about the economy, but they cannot locate Phil Gramm. He was last seen beating up whiners at Enron Field in Houston.
Posted by: ricky | October 6, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am
Focus on the economy McCain, opps he has no clue. Ok old man let’s go your route.
It is a Pandora’s Box If you start attacking Obama. What about Cindy McCain’s past drug use, what about Cindy flirting with McCain when he was still married to his first wife. What about Charlie Black? What about Keating five? What about McCain association with Phil Gramm?
McCain has a lot to answer for and the gloves are off now. Read about Sen. Phil Gramm’s involvement in the current mortgage crisis and you’ll be sick.
Posted by: geevill | October 6, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am
I know Sarah Palin once wrote a letter of recommendation for a guy who was later found to have used a Taser on a ten year old. But that was before she was made witchcraft free by her minister.
Posted by: ricky | October 6, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am
Hey! I don’t want to hear about the issues that are facing us today! I want to be distracted by irrelevant fodder being tossed about by a desperate campaign!
Posted by: Joe Six-Pack | October 6, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am
McMoron and the Pig in Lipstick have lost it. As I type this the Dow is down 553 points and Palin is talking about Rev Wright.
Posted by: jen | October 6, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am
McCain’s disgracful campaign will fail.
Posted by: dem in chicago | October 6, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am
GOSH darn it doggone Mccain is clueless about the economy now what well golly gee I know lets just attack obama for the next 3 weeks WINK WINK the american people are doggone stupid!! they dont know any better YOU BETCHA WE WILL PLAY ON THEIR SMARTNESS!!
Posted by: angie | October 6, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am
They all want to take your money, throw it overseas and further along wars of agression. Looks like I’m voting for NADER. Take that corporatocracy.
Posted by: hmn | October 6, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am
Gosh, darn it all. Let the Rethuglicans rip with the “guilt by association” game…I don’t believe it’ll work out quite the way they think it will. Let’s talk Phil and Wendy Gramm, Charles Keaton, Palin’s African Witch Doctor and her co-chairmanship of one of Ted Steven’s 527′s, etc.
Posted by: Brooklyn Democrat | October 6, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am
Why isn’t the title “AS DOW PLUMMETS, OBAMA ATTACKS MCCAIN ON KEATING”…
typical biased MSM at work again..
If you thought Wall Street was crooked wait until the MSM’s shenanigans come out in the open… they are killing this country…
Posted by: fob | October 6, 2008, 10:51 am 10:51 am
OK wake up AMERICA the dow has dropped 600 points and McCain and Palin are pretty much going around the country gossiping. I mean, I don’t get it.
NO answers just stupid statements about NOTHING.
Paige got it right: McCain/Palin
COUNTRY LAST
Posted by: what the hell | October 6, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am
You can tell a lot more about Obama/Biden by the people who support him.
Yes We Can – Barack Obama Music Video – has Views: 10,103,690
The following Artists were featured in the song and music video …
will.i.am, Scarlett Johansson, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Common, John Legend, Bryan Greenberg (guitar), Kate Walsh, Tatyana Ali, Harold Perrineau, Jr., Aisha Tyler, Samuel Page, Enrique Murciano “Si, podemos”, Maya Rubin – (Qen Annu Yecholim)” (Hebrew), Esthero, Eric Balfour, Nicole Scherzinger, Taryn Manning, Amber Valletta, Auden McCaw (in Valetta’s arms), Kelly Hu, Adam Rodríguez -”Sí se puede”, Eric Christian Olsen , Sarah Wright, Shoshannah Stern (American Sign Language), Ed Kowalczyk (guitar), Fonzworth Bentley – Violin), Amaury Nolasco, Hill Harper, Nick Cannon, Herbie Hancock (piano), Johnathon Schaech, Austin Nichols, Tracee Ellis Ross, Fred Goldring (guitar), Anson Mount, Alfonso Ribeiro, Cliff Collins, Vera Farmiga.
Change we need
Vote Obama/Biden ’08
Posted by: Yéil Raven's Daughter | October 6, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am
Obama’s problems= pure speculation and perceived guilt by association
McCain/Palin= actual legislative hearings for McCain, and ducking an indictment by Palin and her husband…
The choice is easy…Running out of ideas, running out of options, running out of tactics, running out of opportunities to make Bush proud, (and with 29 days left) running out of time.
Obama/Biden 08
Posted by: PoliticsAsUsual | October 6, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am
DOW down 500 points so go my 401K. I am highly disaapointed at McPalin.
Palin is an emoty suite..
Posted by: james | October 6, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am
As if anyone believe Sarah Palin can read.
Posted by: Bill | October 6, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am
Meanwhile, on Wall Street, the Dow Jones just fell below 10,000. And where’s McCain? He brought in a photographer to take some shots of him working the phones. He’s calling Palin with instructions of where was Obama when he was eight.
Posted by: newz4i | October 6, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am
fob
because the same bologne with keating and Mccain
are at work today with Keating and Gramm and davis
and Bush and Cheney
all writing our economic future.
Get angry America!
Throw this scum out!
Posted by: dl | October 6, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am
NEWS FLASH – Jake.
Dow under 9,800 – over 500 pts down.
It’s almost as if nobody in the McCain campaign knows that the financial world runs 24 hours a day.
Before NY markets opened, European markets had already been down 7%
Asian markets were down 5-10% overnight.
Latin American markets are now all down nearly 10%, Brazil is down 15%
What would a Maverick do?!?!?!
—
Maverick Economic Advisor #1′s former company cut 8% of its workforce (shedding 24600 employees)
Maverick Economic Advisor #2′s former company today cut 10% of its workforce (shedding 1000 employees plus 100s of temps)
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All you mavericks better skip that midmorning capuccino and muffin and save that $5 for the mattress.
AND SOMEONE PLEASE CALL TINA FEY!!! John McCain really needs her right now!
Posted by: Bud | October 6, 2008, 10:56 am 10:56 am
Does anyone know of Sarah Palin’s association with radical elements in Alaska asking for independence from the US. The party has lobbied since the 1970s for the right to hold a referendum on whether Alaska should secede from the United States. Its motto, “Alaska First”, contrasts sharply with the John McCain campaign slogan: “Country First.”
It seeks “the complete repatriation of the public lands, held by the federal government, to the state and people of Alaska” and aims to be “self-sufficient” by using profits from Alaskan oil and gas resources. It claims that the vote held in 1958 which led to Alaska becoming the 49th state of the US was corrupt and did not offer a proper choice.
While it is thought that Mrs Palin officially left the party to become a Republican in 1996, she recorded an address for its convention earlier this year in which she said: “I share your party’s vision of upholding the constitution of our great state” and told members to “keep up the good work”. So much for “country first”.
Posted by: geevill | October 6, 2008, 10:58 am 10:58 am
WE ARE LOSING OUR 401KS THEY ARE SINKING AND THE WITCH AND THE POW WANT TO TALK ABOUT NUTCASE PREACHERS AND AYERS WHO THE FRIG CARES WE ARE LOSING OUR SAVINGS!!!!!!!
Posted by: angie | October 6, 2008, 10:58 am 10:58 am
While the Dow plummets, Obama Campaign caught funneling $800,000 campaign dollars to ACORN, so they can continue their fraudulent voter registration efforts in all 57 states…………….
Posted by: SandyB | October 6, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am
We want our country BACK.
No McCain/Palin.
We want our country back!
No McCain/Palin.
Posted by: we want | October 6, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am
What is McCain doing to his legacy? I feel a bit sad for him. It’s one thing to win a campaign by going negative, but quite another to lose. I think Steve Schmidt is probably a very gifted political tactician, but appears to be a bit out of his league at the national level.
Posted by: Dignity wanted | October 6, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am
Obama made it seem at the debate he hardly knew Ayers. Besides serving on the Woods Fund board, in 1997 he and Ayers were to be on a University of Chicago panel organized by Michelle Obama, then an associate dean. And Ayers could reinforce Obama as an elitist: In 2002, Obama and Ayers were scheduled to be on a UIC panel with this lampoon-able title: “Intellectuals in Times of Crisis
Posted by: geevill | Oct 6, 2008 10:33:35 AM
Posted by: HP Boston | October 6, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am
John McCain’s campaign is dying. He is doomed.
He will lose whether he goes negative or not. Therefore, he should go positive and at least salvage what is left of honor.
Posted by: euro.guy | October 6, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am
McCain cannot win by attacking Obama. The country has mulled over all this crap before. He needs to start voicing his opinion on how he will help the country get back on it’s feet. Palin is a real depriment. She is trying to take over the campaign and her negativity is not helping McCains cause. They need to rein in the “pit-bull” and get down to work…
Posted by: newrepublican | October 6, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am
Say it with me…
We want our country back.
No McCain/Palin.
We want our country back.
No McCain/Palin.
We want our country back.
No McCain/Palin.
Posted by: say it with me | October 6, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am
“While the Dow plummets, Obama Campaign caught funneling $800,000 campaign dollars to ACORN, so they can continue their fraudulent voter registration efforts in all 57 states”
Business as usual. and where is help from the rest of Obama’s global citizens in this market decline? Where is Obama’s solution?????????
Posted by: geevill | October 6, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am
angie,
So is Obama going to do about? The Democrats already control Congress.
Posted by: geevill | October 6, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am
McCain talks about the economy at every campaign stop.
Of course the biased media pays no attention to McCain’s talk of tax cuts, spending freezes, etc. in order to help the crisis.
All Obama STILL talks about is SPENDING your tax dollars with his expensive programs to “stimulate” the economy, which at this point in time, would be worthless, and jumping all over McCain for giving tax cuts to corporations.
Posted by: SandyB | October 6, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am
Someone asked what is Obama’s solution to the economic crisis…
I’ll tell you: Kick McCain and his George Bush policies to the curb.
Any other questions?
Posted by: someone asked | October 6, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am
McCain is so desperate that he resorting to smear campaigns as the Country Financial system continues to go down.
His lie about stopping the Campaign appears to be clear it was only to get a few more votes.
McCain First. Country Last. In a Crisis McCain does what he always does, avoid the conversation, pretend it isn’t happening and hope it goes away.
159,000 jobs lost, our 401K’s are dropping. McCain needs to put up a plan for the American people or shut up!!!!
Posted by: Woman For Change | October 6, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am
We want our country BACK.
No Obuma, DEM CONGRESS IS CORRUPT!!!!!
We want our country back!
NoOBUMA! NO SLICK RICK THE POVERTY PIMP!
VOTE NADAR! TO FREE AMERICA!!
Posted by: HP Boston | October 6, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am
the Bush/McCain economy is imploding
Posted by: Gus | October 6, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am
Obama campaign doesn’t want the liberal media to talk about his association with known radicals. Hannity America last night focused on all of Obama’s associations with ACORN, Ayers, Wright. Does it not scare you to know that Obama is in the hip pocket of these known radicals? It does me….McCain/Palin!
Posted by: maverick_mom | October 6, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am
McCain if you ignore the Economy and 159,000 jobs lost and healthcare and our 401K dying, WE WILL IGNORE YOU ON NOVEMBER 4TH.
NOVEMBER 4TH – OBAMA/BIDEN – WHEN AMERICAN FOUGHT BACK !!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Change Agent | October 6, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am
McCain and Palin don’t get it. We’re in the middle of a major economic crisis and they want to “turn the page”. Well, too darn bad — I’m not ready to turn the page. I want to know what McCain and Palin plan to do to restore our economy? Please Sen. McCain, just answer the question.
Posted by: sinking slowly | October 6, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am
What exactly has been RESOLVED?
The Feds are only BEGINNING their inquiries into the ACORN voter fraud allegations.
Try again.
Posted by: SandyB | October 6, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am
This country is bad mess and she is slinging mud.
Nice to know they has so much info on what to do for us. <<<<>>>
Clinton already tried this and it didn’t work.She is fair game and we will see who slings the most last….
Posted by: indp voter | October 6, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am
McCain if you ignore the Economy and 159,000 jobs lost and healthcare and our 401K dying, EIGHT YEARS YOU AND BUSH DISREGARDED THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. WE WILL IGNORE YOU ON NOVEMBER 4TH.
NOVEMBER 4TH – OBAMA/BIDEN – WHEN AMERICAN FOUGHT BACK !!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Change Agent | October 6, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am
Change agent,
What is Obama going to do about the economy?
Posted by: geevill | October 6, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am
McCain is right to go after Obama, he is a liar and an opportunist, if he would just come forward and tell the truth about Ayers none of this would be amo, he has radical ties and if it was one, it would be off no great concern, but it is several and once again I blame the media for sitting on this stuff and letting this man get away with murder. It is relevant who he associates himself with, these are people that he can appoint to p ositions in his cabinet or lower level government positions. He claims not to know about Ayers and his ties to the bombings, but it is something that he should know, you have to be careful about your associations.
Posted by: Kim | October 6, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am
Say it with me…
We want our country back.
No OBAMA! DEMS ARE CORRUPT!
We want our country back.
No POVERTY PIMP AND NEW TAXES!!
We want our country back.
No OBUMA SLICK RICK IS A JOKE!
Posted by: HP Boston | October 6, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am
The McCain / Palin Team
- part of the Keating Five and the largest savings/loan scandal the country has ever seen
- Part of the Bush economic brain trust that has nearly sent this country into a depression
- Part of the Bush brain trust that believes the war should go on for many years to come
- Being investigated by the Alaska State legislation on abuse of power.
Now tell me…is this the team you want to lead this country into the future???
Posted by: VanLear | October 6, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am
Obama should have to answer for his past radical ties and his ties to Acorn. ABC, NBC, CNN, MSCBN need to investigate this issue just like they investigate important items like what Palin reads? Does anyone see the irony of the media coming unglued because Palin said she reads any and everything but the MEDIA DOES NOT INVESTIGATE OBAMA’S PAST RADICAL ASSOCIATES AND HIS TIES TO ACORN WHICH TIES TO THE MORTGAGE CRISIS.
Posted by: Kim | October 6, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am
maverick_mom
What scares me is that you believe anything Sean Hannity says.
Posted by: jock59801 | October 6, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am
Sarah palin is now on a daily quest to convince the nation that she actually reads something besides extremist publications.
George W. Bush did that too after it was discovered and publicized that he didn’t read current events himself.
Posted by: Truth Matters | October 6, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am
If the current economic crisis is in fact linked to fanny and freddy McCain could certainly speak of his efforts to rein them in and shout out the link to the Obama campaign. Additionally an attack on the Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac queen as well as Sen Dodd and the atrocious campaign donations from these failed institutions to their respective campaigns would go a long way to clarifying the issue for America.
Oops did not even post this yet and already the McCain campaign is listening!
Posted by: Smith | October 6, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am
I cant frickin believe it!!! This countries economy has gone down the crap shoot, the DOW is plummeting, my savings and 401K is up in the air and McCain an Palin wanna tell me that Ayers is the reason!!! Who gives a hoot about Ayers, my God, is this woman serious, why does she not CONDEMN the Univesity of CHicago for hiring “an unrepentant terrorist” and condemn all the Americans who send their kids to that school.. How STUPID do the republicans think we are…
Posted by: jB | October 6, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am
GEE EVIL
Well first lets nt blame the dem congress when its been republican led congress for 6 YEARS a republican president for 8 YEARS Senator Obama will first SHRED THE BUSH/CHENY policies keep the LOBBYISIT THE HELL OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE! REGULATION REGULATION SOMETHING THAT THE GOOD OLE MAVERICK AND PHIL GRAHM ARE AGAINST MCCAIN THE DEREGULATOR SAID AND I QUOTE THE ECONOMY IS STRONG DUE TO DEREGULATION OH REALLY IT IS WELL I DONT KNOW ABOUT YOU GEE-EVIL BUT IM FREAKING LOSING ALOT OF MONEY ON MY 401K
Posted by: angie | October 6, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am
McCain is not attacting Obama, he is only telling the truth. The man is friends to terriost, they bombed the pentagon, what else do we want. all the foriegn countrys want Obama to win why do you think that is so, because he is friends with them. And if he wins the election, we will be living as communist. Tell me Americans is that what we want.
Posted by: barbara gooch | October 6, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am
The Dow down 500 and Palin wants to talk about somebody that lived down the street from Obama?
McCain-Palin, totally clueless.
Posted by: bubba | October 6, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am
What exactly has been RESOLVED?
The Feds are only BEGINNING their inquiries into the ACORN voter fraud allegations.
Try again.
Posted by: SandyB | Oct 6, 2008 11:06:39 AM
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SandyB this is all to difficult for the bots to understand!
They have not received the talking points on this yet. It will now be resolved. OH AGAIN! IT IS RESOLVED WHEN WE SAY IT IS!!!
Posted by: HP Boston | October 6, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am
Kim: “He claims not to know about Ayers and his ties to the bombings,”
You are lying again Kim. Obama denounced Ayers’ actions a long time ago. But you wouldn’t know that because you only believe what you want to hear.
Posted by: jock59801 | October 6, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am
OK PALIN——YOUR INCOME 167 THOUSAND A YEAR COMBINED—–WHERE THE HELL DID THE MILLIONS IN ASSETS COME FROM —THE FUZZY MATH JUST DONT WORK OUT—THIS WOMAN +BNEEDS TO BE INVESTIGATED—-THE BRIDGE TO NOWHERE SURE WAS PROFITABLE FOR SOMEONE.—
Posted by: rodney | October 6, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am
People forget that though Dems control congress… Bush can easily VETO any bill
Posted by: Vanessa | October 6, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am
maverick…you’d better chck out how many lobbyists McCaim has up hi ssleeve and running his campaign. McCain takes PAC money and donations from all kinds of right wing oraganizations.
BTW, did you know that Ayers was fighting against the Vietnam was? He was trying to stop killing young men!!! Of course he was extreme, but he is now a respected professor. Please Obama was 8 years olds when this went down…
Posted by: militarymom | October 6, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am
rodney….the bridge to nowhere is where her money is being hidden…She is totally corrupt…
Posted by: thetruth | October 6, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am
“Senior Obama adviser David Axelrod told CNN that Obama had no idea who Ayers was when he visited his home in 1995.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | October 6, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am
Dear sweet little adorable Sarah…
Since we’re talking about guilt by association, I am sure that you will not be upset when the Democrats start airing ads showing that your husband was a member of a group that favored Alaskan secession from the United States.
People in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones……
Let not forget Sarah Palin association’s with the radical Alaska Independence Party that wants to secede from this great country, the United States of America.
And here is a quote from Alaskan Independence Party founder Joe Voegler:
“The fires of Hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government, and I won’t be buried under their damn flag!”
I wonder how Palin explains her husband”s verified membership in the “ALASKIAN INDEPENDENCE PARTY?” Seems she doesn”t believe in the UNITED States of America, does she??
Posted by: beck | October 6, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am
PEOPLE on this blog… THINK for a second. If Ayers is as bad as the republicans claim (I detest the acts he has done decades ago but…) He is a professor of English at the Univesity of Chicago.. so I guess the trustees of that institution, the Americans who send there kids there, the kids who he has taught, and all the people in chicago who have interacted with this man should all be CONDEMNED by Mccain and Palin for their association with a terrorist. HOW DUMB and STUPID do the republicans think we are…
Posted by: jB | October 6, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am
OBAMA WAS 2 YEARS OLD WHEN THAT RADICAL WAS A RADICAL. IF HE IS STILL A RADICAL HE WOULD BE IN JAIL.
McCain our Economy is dying. Get back to the PEOPLE. STOP YOUR LYING DISTRACTIONS. GET A PLAN FOR THE PEOPLE OR GET THE HECK OUT.
WE DO NOT WANT A WINK OR A MS CONGENTIALITY. WE WANT A PLAN AND ANSWERS ON WHAT YOU WILL DO.
I’M SICK OF YOUR LIES AND ANSWERS FOR THE PEOPLE AND I AM SICK OF YOUR AIRHEAD VICE PRESIDENT WHO DOESN’T KNOW A SUPREME COURT DECISION BESIDES THE ONE THEY GAVE HER TO COMMENT ON.
THE DOW IS FALLING. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? RUN BACK TO YOUR 7 HOUSES AND 13 CARS?
OBAMA/BIDEN – 2008 FOR INTELLIGENCE. FOR SAFETY AND SECURITY. FOR AMERICA AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FOR THE 1ST TIME IN EIGHT YEARS.
Posted by: American for Change | October 6, 2008, 11:17 am 11:17 am
McCain DOES talk about the economy at every campaign stop and how he will deal with it as President: spending freeze, tax cuts, etc. etc.
Palin is the one making the association attacks, which is what V.P. candidates are supposed to do.
Obama had better be studying extra hard for this debate. I have the feeling a VERY different John McCain is going to show up for this one. Even if McCain pulls out all the stops and ONLY hammers Obama on his and the other DEMS role in this financial crisis, Obama is going to be very hard put to defend himself and those of his colleagues.
Posted by: SandyB | October 6, 2008, 11:17 am 11:17 am
jock….Obama was 8 years old when Ayers was on the terrorist list. PLEASE…move on to more pertinent stories like our economy…or maybe why Palins minister had to bless her against witches before she came to Washington…
Posted by: newvoter | October 6, 2008, 11:18 am 11:18 am
Well first lets us blame the dem congress when its been corrupt for 2 1/2 YEARS a republican president for 7 1/2 YEARS Senator McCain will first SHRED THE BUSH/CHENY policies keep the LOBBYISIT THE HELL OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE! REGULATION REGULATION SOMETHING THAT THE GOOD racist OBUMA and corrupt DEMS SAID. Do not regulate Fannie and Freddie. OH REALLY IT IS WELL I DONT KNOW ABOUT YOU OBUMA!!!BUT IM FREAKING LOSING ALOT OF MONEY ON MY 401K
This is all the Change I DID NOT HOPE FOR…….
Posted by: HP Boston | October 6, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am
McCain DOES talk about the economy at every campaign stop and how he will deal with it as President: spending freeze, tax cuts, etc. etc.
Posted by: SandyB | Oct 6, 2008 11:17:35 AM
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tax cuts for the richest 1-5% of the country, spending freeze (what’s that mean for your local police, fire, roads, etc etc). oh, and that “war on earmarks” of his? the tinyest sliver of the total fed budget. and how will he ‘finance’ those wonderful $5,000 health care payments to familes? cut medicare / medicade. He doens’t know what he’s doing! that’s why he wants to TURN THE PAGE on the economy…
nice try, sandy b
Posted by: sp | October 6, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am
John McCain in the spring, commenting on a NC ad on Wright:
“We asked them not to run it,” McCain told reporters on his campaign bus in Kentucky Wednesday. “I’m sending them an e-mail as we speak asking them to take it down.
“I don’t know why they do it. Obviously, I don’t control them, but I’m making it very clear, as I have a couple of times in the past, that there’s no place for that kind of campaigning, and the American people don’t want it,” McCain said.
McCain said the ad was described to him: “I didn’t see it, and I hope that I don’t see it.”
I really miss John McCain. I believe he once has honor.
Posted by: mara | October 6, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am
ASK SARAH AND MCCAIN WHO IS KEATING.
ASK SARAH AND MCCAIN HOW MUCH MONEY DID MCCAIN GET.
ASK SARAH PALIN WHO IS MONEGAN.
ASK MCCAIN DID HE HAVE FUN AT KEATINGS HOME.
Posted by: Tired of the Bull | October 6, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am
Sandy…don’t forget McCain said he knows NOTHING about the economy( maybe that us why he got involved in the Savings and Loan mess). So the debate should be interesting. Plus don’t forget, McCain was in the forfront of deregulations which got us, in part, into this mess…
Posted by: formerhillary | October 6, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am
If Obama’s actually a socialist, he should say so, instead of relying on manufactured “charisma” to seize state power.
FDR’s charisma was real — but then, FDR didn’t start out in the mob.
Posted by: Belle Starr | October 6, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am
Three Facts About John McCain’s Extreme Record on the Economy
1. McCain’s economic plan gives Big Oil a $4 billion tax break while 101 million working families get no relief at all.
Source: Tax Policy Center, Preliminary Analysis Of The 2008 Presidential Candidates’ Tax Plan, 6/20/08; Center for American Progress Action Fund, 3/27/08
2. John McCain supports tax breaks for companies that send American jobs overseas. This year, we’ve lost more than 600,000 American jobs to outsourcing.
Source: John McCain 2008, “Jobs for America,”; “The McCain Budget Plan,” Washington Post, 7/14/08; USA Today, 3/20/08 Vote 63, 3/17/05; Vote 83, 5/5/04; Vote 517, 10/26/95
3. John McCain will continue George Bush’s tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans while the middle class struggles with stagnant wages and rising prices.
Source: MSNBC/FAU GOP Debate, 1/24/2008
Posted by: What matters | October 6, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am
“If we keep talking about the economic crisis, we’re going to lose.”
WOW.
Maybe because you guys have NO IDEA nor ANY PLAN as to HOW to fix the economy, but have plenty of ideas how to start a war with Iran or to continue pourong US$ 10 billion per month into Iraq?
Posted by: Grey Matter | October 6, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am
as a top McCain aide explained to the New York Daily News:
“It’s a dangerous road, but we have no choice,” a top McCain strategist told the Daily News. “If we keep talking about the economic crisis, we’re going to lose.”
Posted by: mccain is lost | October 6, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am
The Dow is down 500 – McCain took the weekend off.
Troopergate, Keating 5, Hagee, witchcraft — I personally would rather hear them talk about the economy, and if the economy is going to lose this election for McCain, then so be it. None of this other crap they are using to try to turn the page is going to turn the page when the economy is failing fast right before our eyes. Nothing maverick-y about not facing the REAL problems.
Posted by: hang | October 6, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am
mara…yes, I remember when he said he was going to run a “clean” campaign. What happened….perhaps Sarah Palin?
She is REALLY good at smearing people.
Posted by: newkid | October 6, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am
PhilGramm, McCain’s co-chair and economic advisor and the guy who thinks the economic crisis is “mental” is more responsible than anyone else for this mess. Bill Clinton isn’t innocent either.
Posted by: mara | October 6, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am
Wall Street won’t let McCain “turn the page”.
Posted by: Vanessa | October 6, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am
Doggone right it needs to be pointed out because Ayers is a communist (small ‘c’ as he likes to say). Obama shares this philosophy. Obama will take more wealth from individuals to fund larger government.
Posted by: Ken | October 6, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am
What exactly has been RESOLVED?
The Feds are only BEGINNING their inquiries into the ACORN voter fraud allegations.
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Lets blame Obama for this… because it must have worked.. We have had a Republican in office for 8 years….you guys are nuts.
Posted by: beck | October 6, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am
“Hey! I don’t want to hear about the issues that are facing us today! I want to be distracted by irrelevant fodder being tossed about by a desperate campaign!”
Yup yup, the more irrelevant the better. I’d rather listen to some #### about Ayres than concentrate on the fact that my retirement fund is going down the toilet. So glad that McNuts and McBarbie have their priorities straight.
Posted by: BMS in NC | October 6, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am
unfortunately mccain is being punished for the incompetence of the GOP in the last 8 years..if not for that he would probably would have had this election locked up a long time ago..
as to obama ..he’s just an empty suit..his advantage is that he is nothing and has done nothing..
sort of like a parasite or a vulture buzzing around wounded animals..
Posted by: HP Boston | October 6, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am
jB:
There is a professor at my first alma mater, (who was always known to be a leftover radical from the ’60s) from whom I took a couple of history courses decades ago, who came out shortly after the 9/11 attacks and made a statement something to effect of:
“Anyone who can fly a plane into the U.S. Pentagon definitely gets my vote..”
Although there was a stirring in the press when his comments got out, last I heard, this professor is still on their payroll, still has his tenure, and is still teaching college kids of all ages.
Universities have a little more leeway in whom they have on their staff than public schools do, so I wouldn’t make any big deal out of the fact that Ayers is employed as a college professor.
Many radical figures from the ’60s have made their way into college payrolls nationwide.
Posted by: SandyB | October 6, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am
MCCAIN SAID THE SURGE ALLOWED US TO WIN THE WAR. THEN WHY ARE WE STILL THERE?
WHY ARE WE STILL SENDING SOLDIERS? WHY ARE PEOPLE STILL DYING?
WHY IS BEN LADEN STILL ALIVE? WHY ARE WE NOT HELPING GEN. DAVID MCKIERNAN IN AFGHANISTAN AS HE IS BEGGING US TO DO.
WHY IS PALIN COMMENTING ON ANYTHING WHEN SHE NAMED A MAN DEAD FOR OVER 100 YEARS AND THE GENERAL IN CHARGE OF AFGHANISTAN. WHY ARE WE EVEN LISTENING TO HER WHEN SHE COULD NOT NAME A SUPREME COURT DECISION EXCEPT THE ONE SOMEONE ELSE GAVE HER. WHY ARE WE GETTING ADVICE FROM A WOMAN WHO COULD NOT EVEN NAME A MAGAZINE SHE READS EXCEPT TO SAY ALL OF THEM.
THIS DECISION IS NOT EVEN CLOSE
OBAMA/BIDEN 2008 – BECAUSE AMERICA IS SMARTER THAN A THIRD GRADER.
Posted by: Tired of the Bull | October 6, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am
McCain recipe for campaign success (thanks to Karl Rove);
Grass Roots Flambe or White Devils Food Delight
1. Take God’s Little Acre and remove grass
2. Apply polluted water to bare ground
3. Have sous chef Palin stir
4. Mix mud and fill pail
5. Throw mud at opponent and “liberal media”
6. Repeat every day until November 4
7. Serve with a smile while saying Country First
Posted by: bhciapol | October 6, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am
McCain-Palin. Turning the page on our economy.
Posted by: ricky | October 6, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am
LETS INVESTIGATE PALIN——HER ASSETS AND INCOME —-DO NOT JIVE—–MORE IN ASSETS THAN ALL THE EARNED INCOME FOR THE LAST 8 YEARS—OR PERHAPS MONEY GROWS ON TREES IN ALASKA—OR JUST FALLS OFF THE BRIDGE TO NOWHERE
Posted by: rodney | October 6, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am
My bad. That last post was supposed to say : McCain-Palin. Turning their back on our economy.
Posted by: ricky | October 6, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am
Doggone right it needs to be pointed out because Ayers is a communist (small ‘c’ as he likes to say). Obama shares this philosophy. Obama will take more wealth from individuals to fund larger government.
Posted by: Belle Starr | October 6, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am
Oh, and by the way, the Bush (REPUBLICAN) Administration has actually made the government even bigger, not smaller.
Posted by: Grey Matter | October 6, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am
Obama will continue to bankrupt the US by taxing every single American beyond limits! We don’t need Obama…AMERICANS DON’T WANT OBAMA!
Posted by: DK | October 6, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am
Rome burns while McCain fiddles!
Gosh darn it, Clinton needs to knock Palin on her butt!!
Posted by: Jim In Houston | October 6, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am
PEOPLE on this blog… THINK for a second. If Ayers is as bad as the republican’s claim (and I detest the acts he has done decades ago but…) He is a professor of English at the Univesity of Chicago.. so I guess the trustees of that institution, the Americans who send their kids there, the kids who he has taught, and all the people in chicago who have interacted with this man should all be CONDEMNED by Mccain and Palin for their association with a terrorist. HOW DUMB and STUPID do the republicans think we are… Obama was 8 frickin years old when the man did his crap… Is Palin without sin that she has to be peltin stones… Ayers an nutcase Wright have been beaten to death by the media… FOX Faux News have run it over and over an over… Cmon people… The economy is down the crapper and the DOW is tumbling… I can’t afford gas, or FOOD and my son could not go to the college of his choice because I can’t afford it.. I am hurting sooo bad and all McCain an Palin can tell me is about frickin Ayers… My God, what is becoming of this country… am so tired and sick of this crap… I pray Obama wins…
Posted by: jB | October 6, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am
It makes no difference that Obama “condemned” Ayers’ terorist acts. What the hell is a President doing having anything to do with a guy who bombed the Pentagon!!! Unbelievable!! It is just another one of Obama’s lies and cover ups. Obama’s associations do matter, a lot! It was not just bad judgement on his part. It reveals his lack of interest in doing the right thing. Obama is utterly unfit to be President. I don’t care if the economy dissolved–Obama is unfit.
Posted by: Dave J | October 6, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am
What is Obama going to do about the economy except put people like Ayers in the federal government?
No answer. What is the false messiah going to do????? vote present?
Posted by: geevill | October 6, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am
So where is the story about McCain auctioning off one of his houses? It is a 15,000 s.f. mansion. You have to pay $100,000 just to bid. Must be nice to have a wife who inherited a beer biz.
Be productive American workers and quit yer whinin.
Posted by: ricky | October 6, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am
The McCain campaign sounds so petty and trivial. Who cares about Ayers when the Dow is below 10,000 and everyone is concerned about a long recession. McCain sounds desperate and frustrated highlighting these small things in a big election.
Posted by: Rebecca | October 6, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am
” I look foward to the day when a man is NOT judged by the color of his skin, but by the content of his character.”
Posted by: cardinal | October 6, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am
Palin reads newspapers?
Posted by: indy_voter | October 6, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am
Ask Sarah if elected where will she be? LoL…. Little Mrs. Beauty Pagent Contestent they used you as a prop? Sarah you and Todd need to go back to little ole Alaska and let Todd get back to unofficial business of running things that you where elected to do..
Posted by: Mike | October 6, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am
You people are pathetic. Let’s talk about how many times Obama couldn’t vote anything but present in the Senate. Or how about the 94 times he voted for tax increases??? You think your 401K is hurting now…you haven’t seen anything YET. And crazy talking Biden hasn’t a clue. Obama has no right to be in the White house. Couldn’t you DEMS find someone better??? Oh wait, your other choice was Hillary? Laughable at best. What part of terrorists want to kill you do you not understand?
Posted by: EG | October 6, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am
SERIOUSLY CAN YOU IMAGINE PALIN RESPONDING TO RUSSIA OR NORTH KOREA OR IRAN.
I CAN SEE YOU FROM MY HOUSE. WHAT DO YOU PEOPLE THINK PUTTIN’S RESPONSE WILL BE. WELL AT LEAST YOU’LL HAVE YOUR PALIN DOLLS AND AUTOGRAPHS FROM THE AIRHEAD MAVERICK WHO YOU ARE GOING TO FOR WISDOM AND ANSWERS. I WOULD WAKE UP FROM THIS NIGHTMARE, EXCEPT THAT IT IS REAL. NO PALIN. NO MCCAIN.
I WILL GUARANTEE, AMERICA WILL BE THE LAUGHING STOCK OF THE WORLD AND BIGGEST JOKE IN HISTORY.
OBAMA/BIDEN – 2008
FOR AMERICA. FOR SECURITY. FOR ANSWERS. FOR INTELLIGENCE.
Posted by: Change Agent | October 6, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am
Can’t win on domestic policy
Can’t win on international policy
Can’t win on tax policy
Can’t win on medical care policy
Can’t win on financial policy
Can’t win on credibility (thanks Palin!)
Can’t win on judgment
Can’t win on personality
Can’t win with old war stories
Can’t win by winking and faking knowledge
Can’t even win getting mavericky
Uh, lets try name calling. Yah, that’s the ticket.
“I would rather sell my integrity than lose an election”
Posted by: Desperation Sets In | October 6, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am
RODNEY
WAIT UNTIL WE START TO REALLY FIND OUT ABOUT THE FIRST DUDE I KNOW OBAMA DOESNT LIKE TO PLAY DIRTY BUT HE BETTER GET ON THE BALL,HE ALREADY IS EDUCATING THE YOUNG PEOPLE ON KEATING FIVE YOU KNOW THE 18 19 YEAR OLDS THAT WERE JUST BORN IN 1990 NOW HE BETTER EDUCATE US ON MCCAIN AND HIS MAFIA AND MOB TIES AS WELL AS THE FIRST DUDE BELONGING TO THE ANTI-AMERICAN INDEPENDENT GROUP SARA IS GOING TO WISH SHE NEVER OPENED UP HER FILTHY LYING CORRUPT MOUTH!
Posted by: angie | October 6, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am
The dow drops 500 points and Palin wants to talk about what happened when Obama was eight years old?
When will McCain wake up and address the economy? His campaign is a disaster.
Posted by: mymyself | October 6, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am
HP Boston, If Obama is “palling” with terrorists, why are they not in jail?
oops, forgot that part, right?….
Posted by: Paul | October 6, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am
Or how about the 94 times he voted for tax increases???
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Fact check states this was not even close to being accurate.
But you must think Plain knows what she is talking about? Hahahahaha
Don’t let the facts get in the way of your babbling ok?
Posted by: Debunked | October 6, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am
LETS INVESTIGATE OBAMA——HIS ASSETS AND INCOME —-DO NOT JIVE—–MORE IN ASSETS THAN ALL THE EARNED INCOME FOR THE LAST 8 YEARS—OR PERHAPS MONEY GROWS ON TREES -
Posted by: HP Boston | October 6, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am
Why comment?
The title of Jake’s thread tells the whole story of McCain’s ideologically bankrupt campaign.
A sad day for all the ordinary Americans who once trusted the “maverick” Senator.
He and Palin are operating now from the gutter, while the country is in turmoil.
Posted by: McKeating | October 6, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am
Ayers:
University of Chicago Professor
1. Condemn this institution and its trustees for allowing such a repugnant man to be teaching there. how could they allow a man to mold the minds of american kids who take his classes. PLease condemn all the parents who send their kids to this school for associating with a man…
University of Chicago are training terrorists by allowing Ayers to teach their.. hope you idiots on this site realise how ILLOGICAL your argument about Ayers is and how stupid the republicans think you are because you take the bait…
Posted by: jB | October 6, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am
HEY ANGIE
HOW DOES SHE MANAGE TO HAVE ASSETS THAT ARE BEYOND HER INCOME—SHE CANNOT LIVE ON MOOSE ALONE—SOMETHING STINKS HERE
Posted by: rodney | October 6, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am
Gee we wouldn’t want to talk about the real issues now would we McCain and Palin.
Show how out of touch they both are with what the American people care about. They are using the same old Republican idea. If you don’t have **** to say about the real issue then make up some stuff to try to get some attention.
Obama and Biden are in touch with what the people want.
Obama/Biden 2008!!!!!
Now more than ever!!!!!
Posted by: Mark | October 6, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am
if all these terrorists obama pals around are well known and in the public eye, why havent we arrested them?
why are they not in jail?
seems odd
Posted by: Bhrandon | October 6, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am
America needs to get back to basics. I don’t hear Democrats or the media talking about Obama’s lack of experience….for God sake…he’s running for president..which I happen to think is a lot more important then Sarah Palin’s lack of experience running as vice president.
One of the bloggers wrote that McCain should share is fortune. Why should he …how did Obama make is fortune..I don’t see him willing to share it.
Posted by: RS | October 6, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am
THE PARTY IS OVER REPUKES YOUR TIME IS UP!! YOUR DONE NO MCCANT NOT NOW NOT EVER
Posted by: angie | October 6, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am
The phrase “if we keep talking about the economic crisis, we’re going to lose” should end up in an Obama ad. It was even dumber than saying, “we need to turn the page on the economy.”
Distract, divide, distort, and lie…they’re not going to work this time around.
Posted by: Brooklyn Democrat | October 6, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am
Viva la socialism– viva El Ayers.
Posted by: sub prime junkie | October 6, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am
I cannot believe that McCain actually wants to go dirty. This is a notorious womanizer who has had dozens of extramarital affairs on both his first wife and Cindy. And he’s deeply ethically challenged on the topic that is at the top of everyone’s list right now- the economy and its oversight. Look no further than his Senate censure during the Keating Five scandal. If McCain really wants to go negative, that would be a sad, regretable move. But… bring it on. We dare you, John.
Posted by: ElodieStClair | October 6, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am
Must have been one of those papers that was “put in front of her”.
And Ayres was convicted of what exactly?
Oh yah, nothing.
Posted by: Debunked | October 6, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am
WE HAS A SURPLUS WHEN CLINTON AND THE DEMOCRATS LEFT OFFICE.
WE HAVE THE HIGEST UNEMPLOYMENT, HIGHEST NEW HOMELESSNESS, HIGEST FORECLOSURES AND HIGHEST FINANCIAL FAILURE EVER AND WE STILL ARE NOT AT THE END OF THE REPUBLICAN/BUSH/MCCAIN ERA.
AND MCCAIN WANTS US TO GIVE HIM 4 MORE YEARS. FOR WHAT TO BURY AMERICA AND PUT A TOMBSTONE ON IT. NO THANKS.
Posted by: Tired of the Bull | October 6, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am
RODNEY
SHE STINKS AND SHE CORRUPT YOU SEE SHE THINKS WERE ALASKINS WE DONT HAVE MINDS JUST WAIT FOR ONCE THE OCTOBER SURPRISE WILL NOT BE ON THE DEMS THIS YEAR OH NO MCCAIN AND PALIN AINT SEEN NOTHING YET!
Posted by: angie | October 6, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am
In times of trouble, citizens of our country have always turned to those politicans that express solutions to problems. John McCain and Sarah Palin are voices of reason in proposing changes for the good of the country. In contrast, empty and impossible promises of Obama based on limited experience and even less understanding of underlining principles of our economy should make everyone fearful.
It is not “can he talk good” it is “can he have good talk”.
Obama does talk good.
A veteran that could never vote for such a fraud.
Chuck in Annapolis
Posted by: Chuck from Annapolis | October 6, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am
Ayers:
University of Chicago Professor
1. CONDEMN this institution and its trustees for allowing such a repugnant man to be teaching there. How could they allow such a man, a terrorist!!!! to mold the minds of american kids who take his classes. PLease condemn all the parents who send their kids to this school for associating with such a man… Could you imagine that the University of Chicago is training terrorists by allowing Ayers to teach there…
Posted by: jB | October 6, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am
SERIOUSLY CAN YOU IMAGINE PALIN RESPONDING TO RUSSIA OR NORTH KOREA OR IRAN.
I CAN SEE YOU FROM MY HOUSE. WHAT DO YOU PEOPLE THINK PUTTIN’S RESPONSE WILL BE. WELL AT LEAST YOU’LL HAVE YOUR PALIN DOLLS AND AUTOGRAPHS FROM THE AIRHEAD MAVERICK WHO YOU ARE GOING TO FOR WISDOM AND ANSWERS. I WOULD WAKE UP FROM THIS NIGHTMARE, EXCEPT THAT IT IS REAL. NO PALIN. NO MCCAIN.
I WILL GUARANTEE, AMERICA WILL BE THE LAUGHING STOCK OF THE WORLD AND BIGGEST JOKE IN HISTORY.
OBAMA/BIDEN – 2008
FOR AMERICA. FOR SECURITY. FOR ANSWERS. FOR INTELLIGENCE.
Posted by: Tired of the Bull | October 6, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am
The founder of the AIP was a man named Joe Vogler. Here’s what he had to say in a 1991 interview, only a few years before Palin attended its convention: “The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government.”
He also said this: “And I won’t be buried under their damn flag. I’ll be buried in Dawson. And when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home.”
Vogler has also said: “I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.”
McCain apologists will argue that Sarah Palin was not a member of this group. But Obama wasn’t a member of any Ayers anti-American group, either. And again, Palin repeatedly courted the AIP, and her husband was a member for years.
Posted by: SARAH HATES AMERICA | October 6, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am
People are losing their life savings and we are talking about Ayers?
Posted by: Chrissy | October 6, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am
geevill — you have to look beyond your hate sometimes to find how wrong you are!
Posted by: hang | October 6, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am
RNC to File FEC Complaint on Obama Fundraising Practices
A lawyer for the Republican National Committee today said the party will ask the Federal Election Commission to look into the source of thousands of small-dollar contributions to the presidential campaign of Sen. Barack Obama.
Posted by: HP Boston | October 6, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am
WE ARE NOT ALASKINS AND WE ARE NOT GEORGIANS PEOPLE ALL ACROSS THIS COUNTRY ARE WAKING UP FROM THIS BUSH NIGHTMARE YES WE ARE!! NO MORE OF THE LAST EIGHT YEARS ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!! SWIFTBOATING MIGHT HAVE WORKED ON KERRY NOT THIS TIME REPUKES NOT THIS YEAR OBAMA LANSLIDE INTO THE WHITE HOUSE!! CHANGE REAL CHANGE GOOD CHANGE IS COMING!! DOESNT IT FEEL GREAT!!
Posted by: angie | October 6, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am
hey Hp…
Guess WHAT? Good news – The Obama campaign has requested an investigation into Johnny’s funding too – since he also has many overseas donors.
SUCH FUN for ALL!
Posted by: karen | October 6, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am
people are losing their jobs, the economy is in recession/depression and this is all mccain has to talk about? no way, no how, no mccain!
Posted by: cletus | October 6, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am
The Republican administration SHREDDED the Constitution.
They took away more of our civil liberties than any in the past 50 years.
The operated with impunity and with a complete disregard for the law.
I guess that’s why PALIN likes them! She does the same thing in Alaska.
Posted by: Above the Law | October 6, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am
RODNEY
THATS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT THE OCTOBER SURPRISE HAS YET TO COME AND IM TELLING YOU IT AINT PRETTY FOR MCCAIN!! JUST WATCH!
Posted by: angie | October 6, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am
I thought Ayers was a prof at the Univ. of Illinois at Chicago???? Much different than UC.
Posted by: cardinal | October 6, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am
Sarah Palin talks sense?
This woman tells us to continue giving arms to Israel but we CANNOT second-guess them AT ALL.
Er, hello, as much as they’re our ally, we DO NOT let them do what they want! If they carry out questionable airstrikes that kill Palestinian civilians, we ought to ask some questions too!
Posted by: Grey Matter | October 6, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am
Indy voter – she doesn’t read newspapers, she reads Starbucks cups and gets the quotes wrong.
Posted by: This is SO Old | October 6, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am
Didnt mccain just give back 1.2 millon dollars in donations from overseas a couple weeks back THEY NEED TO INVESTIGATE MCCAINS MAFIA AND MOB TIES AND THE DONATIONS FROM THEM!
Posted by: angie | October 6, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am
Point is Obama looked at us and lied to our faces. Much like “I did not have sex with that woman.”
Posted by: cardinal | October 6, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am
HP Boston,
I find it very strange the RNC waited so long to do so and allowed Obama to sink all these funds into effective ads that forced McCain to spread his funds thinly. Wouldn’t they have done so earlier so McCain would not be forced on the defensive less than 28 days before polling day?
Posted by: Grey Matter | October 6, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am
I am amused that people are surprised about McCain’s mumblings and inarticulate utterance on the economy. McCain has reached the age of dementia – when memories go haywire and the brain sleeps while an individual thinks he/she is making sense. This is what is going on with Sen. McCain. This is natural and not his fault, but we are not going to be emotional and give him the presidency of this great nation to completely destroy what is left after Bush’s mess
Posted by: geevill | October 6, 2008, 11:52 am 11:52 am
OMG
Dow Jones 2 % lower, the European banks are also having difficulties, no one has confidence in the economy.
“It’s a dangerous road, but we have no choice,” a top McCain strategist told the Daily News. “If we keep talking about the economic crisis, we’re going to lose.”
Country First…
or is it Screw Country, McCain First, no matter what it costs.
Posted by: CLabs | October 6, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am
lol lol you bots are so afraid of Governor Palin!
Rome is burning and the sky is falling and you little lemmings are screeching at the VP candidate. Now you all hush up VP Biden has had a death in his family and needs you all to send a sympathy card.
Posted by: HP Boston | October 6, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am
NOBAMA NO WAY! NEVER WILL WE ELECT HIM! NEVER WILL HE RUN THIS COUNTRY! THE TRUTH ABOUT OBAMA WILL SET YOU LIBERALS FREE!
Posted by: HE | October 6, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am
PHIL GRAHAM THE MAN THAT CALLED US A NATION OF WHINERS AND SAID WE ARE IN A MENTAL RECESSION DAMN RIGHT IM WHINING AND ITS NOT MENTAL TO ME WHEN IM LOSING MONEY FASTLY AND ALOT ON MY 401K DAMN THAT MAN JUST TO THINK HE WILL BE MCCAINS SECERTARY OF TREASURY IN MCCAINS ADMIN WE CANT LET THAT HAPPEN HELL NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: angie | October 6, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am
The economy is what it is and NEITHER CANDIDATE TO DO SQUAT ABOUT IT, REALLY. It is just voting a figurehead into place now and selecting the one with the character and judgement on with a Country First mentality, and not a rock star ego first.
NEVER OBAMA….McCain would never hold hands with terriorists, never. Wouldn’t attend a “hate black” church.
NEVER EGO FIRST…..
COUNTRY AND PEOPLE FIRST McCAIN.
Posted by: DLM | October 6, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am
Halal Food Act Passed In Illinois Senate
In a landmark event for Illinois’ more than 400,000 Muslim, the Illinois senate has unanimously passed the Halal Food Act on Thursday to safeguard the interests of the Muslim consumer.
The Illinois Halal Food Act was sponsored by Sen.Christine Radogno (R-La Grange) with Senator Barack Obama as Chief Co-Sponsor.
April 10, 2001
Posted by: geevill | October 6, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am
Yeah,
I’m afraid of a VP who may have to take over a three-time cancer patient but knows less about foreign policy and history then an eight-grader.
Posted by: Grey Matter | October 6, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am
PALIN HAS TO BE AN ABSOLUTE TWIT TO DO THIS DIRTY MISLEADING CRAP FOR MCCAIN–DONT ALL WOMEN LOVE HER—–I THINK NOT
Posted by: rodney | October 6, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am
“Obama has the same physique as Reagan”
I agree with that. NANCY Reagan.
Posted by: geevill | October 6, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am
geevill,
Why don’t you remember that Muslim does not= terrorist? If all those 400,000 Muslims were terrorists, Illinois would be burning rubble.
I think it’s great he recognizes the need for religious tolerance and accomodating other’s beliefs.
Posted by: Grey Matter | October 6, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am
JOHN LENNON was also on the FBI’s terrorist survalence list.
But for Republicans, “Give Peace a Chance” is radical.
Posted by: You want an end to war? TERRORIST! | October 6, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am
Obama doesn’t pass the “STINK” test.
Character does matter…..you are who you choose to associate with! Wright, Resko, Ayers ….. good company? Man, if this mess was stuck on the GOP shoes, the media elite left goose steppers would be all over this!
Posted by: commrat72 | October 6, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am
Frustrated that a massive telescope project he backed had hit a snag in 1989, Sen. John McCain lashed out at a U.S. Forest Service supervisor, threatening his job if he failed to help get approval for the project.
McCain over the years denied making the menacing comment, but newly surfaced government documents indicate that his anger boiled over to the point where he did.
The incident with the forest official wasn’t the first or last time McCain became irate at someone he felt stood in his way.
From environmental activists to former high-ranking Republican officials in his home state, a diverse group of Arizonans have vivid memories of heated skirmishes with the Republican presidential candidate.
Posted by: McLiar's | October 6, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am
“Why don’t you remember that Muslim does not= terrorist? If all those 400,000 Muslims were terrorists, Illinois would be burning rubble.”
I didn’t say they were terrorists. I just noted how Obama took care of the Muslims until 9/11/2001. Now he disavows his pro-muslim feelings.
Posted by: geevill | October 6, 2008, 11:59 am 11:59 am
OBAMA IS A PURE JOKE….
OBAMA CANNOT FIX THE ECONOMY….OR
ANYBODY ELSE AT THIS MOMENT…..
OBAMA WILL DESTROY THE ECONOMY
BY RAISING TAXES TO ALL AMERICANS….
ALSO OBAMA IS WEAK ON DEFENSE AND FOREIGN POLICY ISSUES…..
OBAMA’S CONNECTIONS WITH ANTI-AMERICANS
MAKES HIM UN-FIT FOR COMMANDER IN CHIEF..
BEST CHOICE THIS TIME IN HISTORY IS:
McCAIN/PALIN ’08
Posted by: Nicholas | October 6, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm
I am amused that people are surprised about OBUMAS mumblings and inarticulate utterance on the economy. OBUMA has not reached the age of dementia – when memories go haywire and the brain sleeps while an individual thinks he is making sense. BUT This is what is going on with Sen. OBUMA. This is not his fault. IT is emotional and the presidency of this great nation can not be completely destroy , do not vote for the POVERTY PIMP!.
Obuma will overcome his stutter stammer problem with therapy.
Posted by: HP Boston | October 6, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
I am an itty bitty tiny little man like John McCain too. That is why I am afraid of Barack Obama.
Posted by: geevil | October 6, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
DLM,
Can’t you spot a Obama imposter yet.
I am stil a PUMA voting for MCCain.
Posted by: geevill | October 6, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
Jake, I question your ability to use logic.
First off, the resurfacing of Ayers started on Saturday….correct? Yes.
The Stock Market dropped below 10,000 when…what for it….Monday? Yes.
I know you and Obama don’t want or think his background is a worthy consideration, but, get real.
Oh, and Axelrod as your DNC-CNN source? Axelrod has his own ties to Hyde Park and Chicago terrorists.
Exit question: You do not think a candidate’s background and relationships are important, Jake?
Sheesh
Posted by: Captain America | October 6, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm
The economy is burning and McCain refuses to pay attention.
Palin’s refusal to pay attention to the economy will end all her hopes of running in 2012.
Americans remember when politicians refuse to care about their jobs and focus on other issues.
Posted by: Dan | October 6, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm
How did he disavow his pro-Muslim feelings? He’s a Christian anyway, but still believes those Middle-Eastern Muslim civilians hauled off the street along with Al-Qaeda insurgents should have access to a lawyer instead of languishing in Gitmo for all eternity.
Posted by: Grey Matter | October 6, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm
McCain is absolutely clueless when it comes to economics. The guy doesn’t even pay the bills or ballance the family check book at home. His mother was an oil heiress and he married a beer empire heiress. The guy has never worried about money for a day in his life.
And for all you mavericks out there. What do you have to say about the Weekly Standard – that bastion of Conservatism – when they say that McCain has “No Consistent Economic Principles”
Read it and weep kids. Your emperor has no clothes:
“No consistent economic principles can be extracted from McCain’s grab bag of policy positions, and no amount of textbook baloney about the free market, deregulation, and limited government will deter him from bringing his malefactors to justice. McCain’s economics aren’t ideological but improvisational–a campaign with shifting fronts, running on indignation.”
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/014/751tryie.asp?pg=2
Meanwhile:
-the S&P and NASDAQ are both down 5% (a considerably more important drop than the 30 companies that make up the DOW component)
-Canada’s market is suffering its biggest loss since 87.
-European markets are imploding
-Latin America is dropping like a rock; Brazil facing a record drop (why didn’t McCain’s honey clue him in on that!?!? He’s the Latin American expert, si?)
Oh Sarah, what would a Maverick do?????
Talk to your advisors, maybe?
Uh oh, just last month McCain advisor Donald Luskin said that we are heading into an age “of accelerating prosperity.”
Sure we are.
Accelerating into:
$10 trillion in national debt?
A financial industry that’s bankrupt?
A currency losing value by the day?
Thank you George Bush, Paulson, Greenspan, Bernanke and deregulators Gramm and McCain. et. al.
Thanks for letting America’s economy go down the drain under your leadership!
Heckuva job!
Posted by: Bud | October 6, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm
We lost 1/3 of the Foreign Affairs/National Defense debate and it needs to be picked up at one of the two last debates.
This economy will leave either candidate with no $$$$$ to do ANYTHING!
So let’s get to CHARACTER AND JUDGEMENT…WHICH B. HUSSEIN HAS NONE TO RUN ON. If this guy were white, like Ferraro said, he wouldn’t be where he is today…..no question.
Like O.J. who got the pass for 13 years and is now behind bars, hopefully FOR LIFE….no more passes.
NEVER THE MOST INEXPERIENCED, LIBERAL, RADICAL ASSOCIATIONS GUY….NEVER OBAMA.
Posted by: DLM | October 6, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
Considering the fury that Gov. Palin’s comments about Ayers has made, it would now appear the mainstream media and Obama campaign are sure on the defensive.
Posted by: Captain America | October 6, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
Funny thing, those polls.
The campaign is getting more negative, the support for the republicans keeps dropping.
Grandpa McCain is losing it, and boy… he sure is grumpy when it’s not going his way.
Posted by: CLabs | October 6, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm
Next year is the 80th anniversary of the Great Depression. If McCain wins, Vag Cheney will jump out of the cake to wish him Happy Anniversary.
Posted by: hamishdad | October 6, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
” it would now appear the mainstream media and Obama campaign are sure on the defensive.”
Playing defense… not needed, McCain is very successful in digging his own grave.
Posted by: CLabs | October 6, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
“Palin reads newspapers?”
Only the headlines I think. The article she’s talking about concluded that Obama and Ayers were not, in fact, close.
Anyway, I think this says it all really:
“If we keep talking about the economic crisis, we’re going to lose.”
So if there’s a difficult problem, they’re going to try and ignore it. Does anyone really want someone with that attitude running the country (again)?
Posted by: Aengil | October 6, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm
We’re losing TRILLIONS of dollars in the stock market, international banks are failing, we just authorized 700 BILLION to save our economy, and MCCAIN wants to talk about this?
What a waste of time, energy, money, intelligence, honor, respect, and thought.
He and his campaign should be embarrassed, ashamed and petty for resorting to this.
Sen McCain has NO more honor left.
Posted by: Mike | October 6, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm
Just curious: Why wasn’t your headline for the recent post on Obama’s attack of the day: “Dow Plummets; Obama talking about 20 year old S&L scandal”?
Posted by: Judasmac | October 6, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
“To say that Obama did not know who this guy was is a lie. As of at least 2004 he served on the same board as Ayers.”
You’re having a laugh aren’t you? Serving on a board with him in 2004 does not mean he knew who he was in 1995!
As for the board, look, it’s as simple as this: is Obama making bombs with Ayers? No. Has he been sitting on a board relating to educational issues with Ayer who happens to be an expert on educational issues? Yes.
Obama’s interactions with Ayers have been in respect of Ayers role as a Professor of Education – not in respect of Ayers past.
If you want to make an issue of it, tell us what specific things Obama himself has actually done that show him to share Ayer’s beliefs.
Posted by: Aengil | October 6, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
I just read the very impressive 10 pages of Rolling Stone’s portrait of John McCain as a make-believe maverick.
It’s the best and deepest thing ever written in this country about John McCain.
It truly is a must read, for Democrats and Republicans alike.
Kudos to Rolling Stone magazine for doing such a serious and important job.
Posted by: MrJohnson | October 6, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm
For those who say that McCain’s scandal was a 20 year old scandal and justify it that way are ridiculous. McCain was 58 at the time, don’t you think he should know by than who he should get himself involved with? You can’t justify his actions in the Keating 5 Scandal, he was wrong, and he has said himself that it was one of the biggest mistakes of his life.
Posted by: Kathy | October 6, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
I dont know about you guys but i’m scared of Obama and what he might do to the US if he becomes president. He is lethal and dangerous. He has no experience and has no idea what he’s doing or talking about. Who cares if he’s a senator that doesnt make him qualified to be president of the united states. He hasnt done anything in the senate? Oh wait, he did. He did vote but pushed the wrong buttons… “uh uh uh uh ooops”. Community leader? Leader of radicals and terrorists! Brace yourself USA… Barry Barrack Hussein Obama (whatever is his name) is the weapon of mass destruction!
Posted by: olivia | October 6, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
McCain was rebuked by the ethics committee for “poor judgement” in the last financial bailout. Geez, how do you get rebuked by the senate ethics committee? You need to be a really dodgy character to get their attention.
Posted by: memyself | October 6, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
Someone in the MSM has to have the balls to step up and do their investigative work on B. Hussein. FOX shouldn’t have to do this singlehandedly.
OBAMA NOT QUALIFIED TO BE C.I.C……JUST NOT. Why won’t Americans wake up….Obama is not Colin Powell or any other quaified black candidate. WHEN HAS OBAMA EVER REALLY SERVED THIS COUNTRY, AND NOT HIMSELF AND HIS POLITICAL AMBITION?
NEVER.
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN/PALIN!
Posted by: DLM | October 6, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
What else can the Republicans talk about? Maybe they are too embarassed to talk about cutting Medicare and Medicaid by $1.3 trillion dollars. My parents can barely afford medical costs now.
McCain has no answers for Health Care.
McCain has no answers for helping Americans that are losing their economic footing in this economy.
McCain has no answers for those veterans returning from fighting in two wars that have been injured and need medical assistance.
McCain has no answers for all the lobbyists that he has on his campaign staff that continued to make money through their ties to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac up until a month ago.
McCain has no answers for women that are making less than their male counterparts.
McCain has no answers for children that have substandard education in a nation that is continually slipping behind other nations economically.
McCain has no answers that don’t included smearing the other guy.
McCain has no answers to the real problems of Americans that have one house and a stack of bills they can’t pay.
Posted by: woman | October 6, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
“The question: Why do Obama’s deeds contradict his words? Is anyone in the mainstream media curious???”
Posted by: Belle Starr | October 6, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
And what is Obama going to do to fix the economy??
I still haven’t heard exactly what HIS plan is, other than his ranting about how McCain isn’t doing anything?
I’ve heard lots of talk and promises, but nothing substantial.
What IS Obama’s plan?
Posted by: SandyB | October 6, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
For those who say that McCain’s scandal was a 20 year old scandal and justify it that way are ridiculous. McCain was 58 at the time, don’t you think he should know by than who he should get himself involved with? You can’t justify his actions in the Keating 5 Scandal, he was wrong
———————–
TRUE!
Keating 5 scandal is 20 years old. And McCain was a key figure who helped and took money from Keating. Keating was convicted.
The Weather Underground was active about 40 years ago – of which Obama was NEVER a member. (And Ayres was convicted of what exactly? HINT: he answer is nothing.)
Attacks against Obama are only guilt by association, but McCain is just plain guilty!
This is going to be fun!
Especially when Palin gets convicted of abusing the power of her office. (No wonder she is demanding that the results of the investigation be kept from the public.)
Two maverick crooks backed by a crooked party. That’s the Republicans.
Posted by: Too Much Fun | October 6, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
The market drops 500 and Palin want’s to talk about what happened when Obama was eight years old?
Man, McCain is sinking fast in the polls. People just dont like him.
Posted by: memyself | October 6, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
Well it is about time that Obama is being exposed for who he really is and who he really knows. He has surrounded himself for years with oorrupt America hating individuals as well as his wife who disliked American until her husband was groomed to become a leader. How can some one associate hisself with haters and prejusticed people and claim to be one who will save America. William Ayres a well known terrorist activist and now know as an educator has been behind Obama from the beginning. He is now taking money for his presidency for foreign entities and will not acknowledge it. He is a abortionist advocate from the lowest degree. Anyone who would support killing the unknown born certainly can have no feelings for human beings much less himself. It is a well known fact Islamic terrorist and those like them are very patient in their plan to destroy America and western countries because of our faith to our God. It is my opinion and others, Obama is part of the master plan to destroy our freedom loving and God fearing countries.
Posted by: JERRY | October 6, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
Will Ayers has a conection to all the big media Tribune ring a bell outlets so don’t look for them to tell us the truth American people should be fairly ticked at all who are in Washington they all have thier hand in the pot and are on pot all are scum bags who run this country.And the media are nothing but liars.IMO
Posted by: Bishop | October 6, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
If Palin and the other GOP attack dogs are going to distort information for political gain, it’s only fair that the Democrats do the same to discredit their ticket. They should talk about McCain as an adulterer and Palin’s husband as a member of the Alaska Independance party. Go for the jugular!
Posted by: Muppetz | October 6, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
Jake- do you have any ideas why Obama’s story about Ayres has changed so many times? For example, David Axelrod said in February they were friendly because their kids go to school together (untrue).
Obama has been very hesitant to mention the Chicago Annenberg challenge, a supporter moved to seal the records when it was obvious they were about to be looked into, and twice the Obama campaign sent out an action alert for supporters to bombard a Chicago radio station when people discussing the CAC were scheduled to appear.
Do you have any idea why the Obama campaign has acted this way, or why most reporters have hesistated to investigate the relationship until now?
I understand the Dow is tanking, but Obama wants to be President. I want information about him to be available before people vote.
Posted by: MayBee | October 6, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
Hey Muppet– What info did Palin distort???
Posted by: cardinal | October 6, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
McCain to American people– “I got nothin’.
If I talk actual issues my campaign goes down the drain. So I’ve set the smear machine on high, and I have my shills all over the internet expressing SHOCK over Obama’s acquaintance with Mr. Ayers.”
This is phony-balony guilt by association. Other than a few dimwits out there (and/or shills on the GOP payroll), the American people aren’t falling for this any more.
Posted by: Katie O in Houston, TX | October 6, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
McCain’s POW torture stories
are all fake on which his
whole public persona has been
built.
For some thirty five years
he has succeeded in fooling
the public that his credentials
are unassailable based on
the suffering he endured as
a POW.
This presidential contest
has laid bare his profound
dishonesty and his addiction
to telling lies.
Posted by: anon | October 6, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
500 point drop AFTER the Democrats give Bush 700 Billion Dollars? Maybe the House Republicans were smarter than everyone gave them credit for!
Posted by: beebop | October 6, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
Palin distorted the fact that Obama’s association with Ayers is indicative that Obama hates America or has out of mainstream views. Well if we’re going down that trail, Palin doesn’t support abortion in cases of rape or incest, which most mainstream Americans think should be legal. Does that mean Palin hates women or America? No, but hey why not distort it since that’s what she’s doing to the other ticket? It’s the golden rule, treat others the way you would want to be treated. Be critical, but don’t sling mud.
Posted by: Muppetz | October 6, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
In 1996, Media Coverage of Bill Ayers Was Too Extensive to Believe Obama Did Not Know Who Ayers Was
written by: Erick Erickson
Monday, October 6, 2008 at 09:29AM
Barack Obama’s chief strategist, David Axelrod, claims Obama did not know that Bill Ayers was a domestic terrorist. You can see the claim here.
I think that is fatuous nonsense. Why? Let me lay it out to you:
Barack Obama, at Bill Ayers’ behest, began work in 1995 at the Chicago Annenberg Challenge.
In 1994, the Democrats decided 1996 would be an appropriate time to go back to Chicago for a convention. The whole world of Democratic politics was paying attention in 1994 after that was announced.
In 1994, Obama was paying attention. He was in the political currents already.
On August 7, 1994, the Chicago Sun-Times ran an article by Maureen O’Donnell about the convention. It was huge news because of what happened in Chicago in 1968 at the last Democratic Convention.
The news stories will filled with reminders of the riots of ’68 and interviews with the key players, including the O’Donnell piece, in which she wrote:
Bill Ayers, an associate professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago, protested at the ’68 convention. The former Weather Underground activist also spent 11 years as a fugitive after the Days of Rage disturbances in 1969:
“It’s kind of a riot” he says with a laugh about the upcoming convention.
“I don’t think people think of Chicago as the site of the (’68) convention. Chicago is still held up as the city of broad shoulders, even though the shoulders are slumping precipitously right now. When I travel and say Chicago, people say, ‘Ah, Michael Jordan.’
“You can find irony in it. To me it’s not surprising that there’s going to be a Democratic convention here. It’s one of the great four or five convention cities. In a sense, they had to get over it.
“I’m planning to demonstrate. If they invade Haiti, you can count on it.”
Of course she called him an “activist,” not “terrorist,” but did throw in the fugitive part.
As the convention came to town in 1996, the New York Times ran an article on August 26, 1996, by John Kifner, in which he wrote,
Mayor Daley’s agenda for public schools draws on two other consultants: Mike Klonsky, who in 1968 was national chairman of the S.D.S. and a demonstration organizer here, and a University of Illinois professor named Bill Ayers.
In an earlier life, Mr. Ayers headed the violent Weather Underground faction of the S.D.S., whose members saw themselves as revolutionary street fighters. His wife, Bernardine Dohrn, an S.D.S. leader once among the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s most wanted, is now a lawyer with a Northwestern University legal aid project for troubled youths.
At the height of this exposure, major media outlets were quoting Bill Ayers and pointing out his radical past.
What else happened in 1996 when the media was reminiscing about the Democratic Convention of 1968, and interviewing key players like Bill Ayers?
Bill Ayers held a political fundraiser for Barack Obama. [Note: There is some conflict as to whether the fundraiser was in 1995 or 1996. Nonetheless, (a) the coverage of Ayers was extensive after 1994 leading up to the 1996 convention and (b) Ayers did contribute to Obama's campaign in 1996]
And we’re really supposed to believe Obama did not know, by 1996, given all the major media coverage of the 1996 Democratic Convention going back to Chicago despite the 1968 riots — including local and national media interviews with Bill Ayers on the subject — that Obama did not know?
You’ve got to be kidding me.
Here are a few more news articles to show you how pervasive the coverage of Ayers was at the time:
From USA Today on August 27, 1996:
Sixties radicals Bernadine Dohrn and Bill Ayers, once leaders of the Weather Underground, are hosting a fund-raising event Tuesday night for Democrats Online, an Internet service starting up the same night. It features policy discussions and an endorsement page where users explain why they support Clinton.
From the Chicago Tribune on September 1, 1996:
DeZutter, now a professor at Malcolm X College, who long ago had been a reporter for the now-defunct Chicago Daily News, told me that he and his associates put together a gold mine of information and perks for out-of-town reporters.
The theory was that some among the 15,000 media reps who came here for the convention would be grateful to the activists and thus bestow national and even international coverage on their causes.
The carrot included a gang file of phone numbers and current addresses of many of the hottest players in Chicago’s ’60s chaos. Among those listed are Frank Sullivan, Chicago police spokesman during the 1968 riots; one-time fugitive Weather Underground leader Bill Ayers; and Richard J. Elrod, the former Cook County sheriff who won great admiration for his courage handling crippling injuries he endured while helping police during one of the era’s worst riots, the 1969 Days of Rage disturbances.
And if, somehow, you want to give Obama the benefit of the doubt that in 1996 he was too busy raising money to pay attention to who his boss was, how about August 3, 1997, and this Chicago Tribune story:
When you’re talking to Bill Ayers, it is hard to believe the soft-spoken, bespectacled education professor is the same guy the FBI was chasing for 11 years as a dangerous radical.
Nor is it easy to believe his wife, Bernardine Dohrn, also was a member of the Weather Underground back in the ’60s. They married while underground and resurfaced during the 1980s. Now he is an adviser to Mayor Richard M. Daley’s nationally acclaimed education reform effort and she heads a family and children’s justice program at Northwestern University Law School
Are we really going to give this guy a pass by believing he did not know?
If Obama really did not know, we must question his fitness to be President. A man that self-absorbed as to miss something this big playing out among his circle of supporters, is too clueless to be President.
Posted by: Doodat Pro | October 6, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
Muppet–But Obama lied about the relationship. Why?
Posted by: cardinal | October 6, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
Master de-regulator Phil Gramm, close McCain associate and advisor, has his messy fingerprints all over our current economic crisis.
Phil Gramm scares me WAY more than Obama’s acquaintance with Professor Ayers.
Posted by: Katie O in Houston, TX | October 6, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
Ah, big news, big news. John McCain has balanced the numbers on his health care plan. That guy knows his math.
According to the WSJ, while McCain TAXES EVERY WORKING AMERICAN’S HEALTH CARE BENEFITS, he will also CUT MEDICARE (for the elderly) and Medicaid (for poverty level women and children).
Great leader that McCain. He really WILL do for our health care what they’ve done for the banks.
And while the economic meltdown continues Sarah Palin prattles on about how great that natural gas pipeline will be when (and if) it gets completed in 10 years.
Posted by: Bud | October 6, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
Philip Berg is suing Senator Obama in Civil Court. Berg wants Obama to Produce his real birth certificate to prove that he meets the citizenship requirements to be President. Rather than just product the birth certificate (is he trying to hide something?) Obama’s legal team filed a motion to dismiss.
Posted by: CrystalD | October 6, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
Cardinal – why does it matter? Unless Obama himself was a member of the weather underground, or financing them or whatever, why does it matter? The whole point that this is an issue of speculation is to make him look out of mainstream. That’s the only reason why somebody like you would care. McCain got an endorsement by controversial evangelist John Hagee. Now McCain didn’t accept monetary contributions but he didn’t distance himself from him. Why not make a big deal about that?
Posted by: Muppetz | October 6, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
Muppet— I care, very deeply, about a potential POTUS who would lie to me.
Posted by: cardinal | October 6, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
LIE: “My view is that the community organizer was really a sham event. Bill Ayers was testing him.”(Andy Martin, Hannity’s America, October 5, 2008, “Obama and His Friends: History of Radicalism”)
TRUTH: Bill Ayers had nothing to do with Obama’s community organizing job. It’s pure lunacy to imagine that Ayers was “testing” Obama.
LIE: Obama’s “community organizing is a grand scheme perpetuated by none other than William Ayers.”(Sean Hannity, Hannity’s America, October 5, 2008, “Obama and His Friends: History of Radicalism”)
TRUTH: Obama’s community organizing was not a vast conspiracy for revolution devised by Bill Ayers.
LIE: “They live half a mile from William Ayers, the unrepentant terrorist” and “Just a half a mile from those homes is Louis Farrakhan.”(Hannity’s America, October 5, 2008, “Obama and His Friends: History of Radicalism”)
TRUTH: It’s true, of course, that Obama lives in this same neighborhood, as do tens of thousands of other people who presumably are also guilty by geographical association. The logic of this argument would be, if you live half a mile from a sex offender, then you agree with child molesters.
LIE: Obama and Ayers “appeared together at various public engagements…it would seem that they are more than just a little bit friendly.”(Sean Hannity, Hannity’s America, October 5, 2008, “Obama and His Friends: History of Radicalism”)
TRUTH: Appearing on a speaking panel is not a sign of friendship. There is no evidence that Obama had any role in ever inviting Ayers to speak.
LIE: In 1995, Ayers and Dohrn “hosted a political coming out party for a young Barack Obama.”(Sean Hannity, Hannity’s America, October 5, 2008, “Obama and His Friends: History of Radicalism”)
TRUTH: This was an event for Alice Palmer, not a “coming-out party” for Obama. Obama was invited by Palmer to the event.
But long before tonight’s Hannity, the right-wing has been spreading a series of lies about Obama and Ayers.
LIE: “Bill Ayers is an unrepentant terrorist.”
TRUTH: Bill Ayers is not, and apparently never was, a terrorist. The conventional definition of a terrorist is someone who tries to kill innocent people for political purposes. As Factcheck noted, In fact, nobody died as a result of bombings in which Ayers said he participated as part of the Weather Underground. (Factcheck)
LIE: “I’m sure he’s very patriotic, but his relationship with Mr. Ayers is open to question….Because, if you’re going to associate and have as a friend and serve on a board and have a guy kick off your campaign that says he’s unrepentant, that he wished he’d bombed more. And then, the worst thing of all, that I think really indicates Senator Obama’s attitude, is he had the incredible statement that he compared Mr. Ayers, an unrepentant terrorist — an unrepentant terrorist, with Senator Tom Coburn. Senator Coburn, a physician who goes to Oklahoma on the weekends and brings babies into life.’ (John McCain, April 20, 2008, ABC’s This Week with George Stephanopoulos)
TRUTH: Obama was not friends with Ayers. Ayers did not kick off Obama’s campaign. And Obama was not comparing Ayers’ actions with Coburn. Obama was pointing out that he works with people even when he disagrees with them.
LIE: “Obama’s oldest friend in politics is a murderer and unrepentant terrorist. Why are they friends?”(ExposeObama.com email, Sept. 7, 2008)
TRUTH: Ayers isn’t Obama’s oldest friend in politics.
LIE: Ayers was “Obama’s boss.”(Jerome Corsi, p. 147)
TRUTH: The chair of a foundation board is not the boss of the members.
LIE: Jerome Corsi claimed Alice “Palmer would never have introduced Obama to the Hyde Park political community at the Ayres-Dohrn home unless she saw an affinity between Ayers and Dohrn’s radical leftist history, her own history of far-leftist politics, and the politics of Barack Obama.”(p. 137)
TRUTH: The event wasn’t held primarily for Obama. It was Palmer’s own announcement that she would run for Congress. Obama was there as Palmer’s endorsed successor for her Senate seat, but there’s no evidence that he had any role in deciding to hold it at Ayers’ home.
LIE: Jerome Corsi claims about Obama: “either he did not know Ayers and Dohrn are still radical leftists–in which case he is implausibly naive–or Obama did know, which would confirm he joined with Ayers and Dohrn because Obama too continues to believe, albeit silently and secretly, in the Far Left’s radical agenda.”(p. 140)
TRUTH: Obama probably knew Ayers was a leftist, but he didn’t care. Obama believes in the notion of a free society, where you work with people you disagree with.
LIE: “Even today, Ayers appears to hold the same radical political beliefs he did in the Weather Underground, and Obama had to know that was also the case when he first met Ayers in 1995.”(Jerome Corsi, p. 147)
TRUTH: Corsi doesn’t explain how Obama “had to know” Ayers’ views on politics when he first met him. Telepathy? Mind-reading?
LIE: David Freddoso calls Obama’s distant connection with Bill Ayers “a remarkable relationship for a presidential nominee to have.”(p. 122)
TRUTH: It reality, it’s not remarkable at all. The notion that people should resign from foundations and refuse to speak in public in order to avoid any connection to a former radical never convicted of a crime is absurd.
LIE: “The major media simply have not reported on Obama’s two years at New York’s Columbia University, where, among other things, he lived a mere quarter-mile from former terrorist Bill Ayers.”(Tony Blankley, September 24, 2008)
TRUTH: Thousands upon thousands of people lived near Bill Ayers in Manhattan. Obama didn’t know Ayers.
LIE: Mr. Ayers founded CAC and was its guiding spirit. No one would have been appointed the CAC chairman without his approval. (Stanley Kurtz, Wall Street Journal)
TRUTH: Kurtz has no evidence to support his claim. Ayers was one of several people involved in starting the group, and was not its guiding spirit. According to the New York Times reporting, Obama was recruited by other CAC leaders who knew him through the Joyce Foundation.
LIE: Mr. Obama and Mr. Ayers worked as a team to advance the CAC agenda. (Stanley Kurtz, Wall Street Journal)
TRUTH: Kurtz has no evidence that Obama and Ayers worked as a team. Ayers attended six meetings of the group along with Obama.
LIE: “Obama is hanging around with Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright. By the way, Bill Ayers advertised himself as being a communist with a small c just when he was beginning to
partner with Obama on the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. (Stanley Kurtz, Hudson Institute, Washington DC, October 1, 2008)
TRUTH: Contrary to this McCarthyist attack, there’s no evidence that Obama ever knew that Ayers supposedly called himself a communist, nor is that a good reason for Obama to end his work on school reform and charitable activities.
LIE: “who provided Obama with the only executive experience he has ever had in his young life? Bill Ayers, unrepentant domestic terrorist, communist revolutionary… (Joseph Farah, World Net Daily, October 2, 2008)
TRUTH: Ayers did not provide Obama with the Chicago Annenberg Challenge job. And Obama has also had executive experience in community organizing, running a voter registration drive, as well as running his campaigns. The New York Times reported, “In fact, according to several people involved, Mr. Ayers played no role in Mr. Obama’s appointment. Instead, it was suggested by Deborah Leff, then president of the Joyce Foundation, a Chicago-based group whose board Mr. Obama, a young lawyer, had joined the previous year.”(Scott Shane, New York Times, October 4, 2008)
LIE: “Barack Obama is friends with Ayers, defending him as quote ‘respectable and mainstream.’”(American Issues Project ad, August 2008)
TRUTH: David Axelrod described them as “friendly,” not friends. Obama didn’t call Ayers respectable and mainstream (although Ayers now is); Obama’s campaign on his website posted an op-ed in the press that described Ayers that way.
LIE: “I can’t understand why somebody who wants to be president of the United States, I’ll be perfectly honest with you, would want to associate or not condemn the actions of people in the past.”(Paul Ragonese, April 27, 2008, Fox News’ Hannity’s America)
TRUTH: Obama has condemned the past actions of Bill Ayers and called him somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago. (April 16, 2008 debate)
LIE: “Mr. Ayers founded CAC and was its guiding spirit. No one would have been appointed the CAC chairman without his approval.”(Stanley Kurtz, Wall Street Journal)
TRUTH: Kurtz has no evidence to support his claim. Ayers was one of several people involved in starting the group, and was not its guiding spirit.
LIE: “Mr. Obama and Mr. Ayers worked as a team to advance the CAC agenda.”(Stanley Kurtz, Wall Street Journal)
TRUTH: Kurtz has no evidence that Obama and Ayers worked as a team. Ayers attended six meetings of the group along with Obama.
LIE: About Bill Ayers, “Barack Obama really couldn’t bring himself to say ‘you know, I really don’t like that guy.’ That was too much for him to say. He had to talk about what a decent guy he is and what a good professor.”(Jim Geraghty, “Hype: The Obama Effect”)
TRUTH: There is no record of Obama during the campaign calling Ayers “decent” and “a good professor.” In fact, Obama really did bring himself to criticize Ayers, denouncing him during a Democratic debate as “somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago.”
LIE: “Obama was feted at a fundraising event” at Ayers’ home.(“Hype: The Obama Effect”)
TRUTH: Obama never had a fundraising event at Ayers’ home.
LIE: Barack Obama and Bill Ayers had a close working relationship…the two of them were running the foundation together. (Stanley Kurtz, Fox News Channel’s Fox and Friends, September 29, 2008)
TRUTH: Kurtz has no evidence of a “close working relationship” beyond attending a few meetings together. The notion that Obama and Ayers were the only ones running the Chicago Annenberg Challenge is absolutely false.
LIE: “The most important smoking gun is that Barack Obama was funding Bill Ayers’ radical educational projects.”(Stanley Kurtz, Fox News Channel’s Fox and Friends, September 29, 2008)
TRUTH: This is false. Obama was the president of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, not its dictator. There’s no evidence that Obama made any funding decisions. Moreover, it would have been completely unprofessional for anyone, including Obama, to ban Bill Ayers from receiving funding for educational projects because of alleged radical activities decades earlier which Ayers was never convicted of. Kurtz has no evidence that projects were judged based on anything other than their merits. This is a pure smear by association.
LIE: Emails “give us strong evidence that there may have been a cover-up in Bill Ayers’ role choosing Barack Obama.”(Stanley Kurtz, Fox News Channel’s Fox and Friends, September 29, 2008)
TRUTH: This is a fabrication. The email Kurtz is referring to shows absolutely no kind of cover up. In fact, it shows exactly the opposite. In his blog, Kurtz quotes the entire email Ken Rolling wrote to CAC founders Warren Chapman and Anne Hallett and notes that Sam Dillon, Education Reporter for the New York Times, was working on an article. Rolling wrote about Dillon, He is trying to understand how Barack got ‘picked’ for the CAC board, by whom, why, etc. – I have avoided that question head-on though I believe Barack was Debbie Leff’s/Joyce nomination.” This email reveals no kind of cover-up, and the New York Times article found several sources that said Obama was not picked by Ayers.
LIE: “There is a secret group in the Obama-Biden campaign tasked with shutting off any leaks from the record that links Barack Obama to his longtime adviser and mentor Bill Ayers, professor of education at the University of Illinois and unrepentant Weatherman terrorist and fugitive from the 1970s….There is a substantial independent report from a major Democratic source that confirms Diamond’s suspicions. The source confirms the unit is led by Bill Ayers himself and likely includes Tom Hayden and other members of ‘Progressives for Obama.’ Most critically, the Democratic source says this unit has direct access to media adviser David Axelrod of the Obama-Biden campaign.”(John Batchelor, Human Events, September 12, 2008)
TRUTH: There is no “secret group.” Hayden reports, “I am not part of any effort, personal or organized, trying to protect Obama against any leaks.” The notion that Ayers is leading the “unit” is laughable. According to the University of Illinois library, “all papers have been available since August 26″ about the school reform group that Ayers and Obama worked on. Diamond, the source cited for the existence of the “unit,” declares, “I have no evidence of such a unit.” Diamond added, “I told Batchelor that I would not speak to Human Events yet he made up a quote from me and placed it in his article.”
Posted by: touche | October 6, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
Palin’s fantastically absurd
lies are rendering her totally
irrelevant in this presidential
contest.
Posted by: anon | October 6, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
Cardinal – I wish you the best of luck finding a politician who won’t lie to you. If you think McCain / Palin ticket your white knight who will never lie to you about controversial supporters or issues that are equally not as “mainstream” as Obama. Fine. Sleep tight beliving that. The fact is all politicians lie. But some have lies that are more damaging to the American people than others. Ayers isn’t one of them.
Posted by: Muppetz | October 6, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
And while McCain enjoys his afternoon nap and Lyin Sarah worries about “our neighbor” Afganistan, the financial meltdown continues:
-European markets close down a record 7.8%
and
-The dollar continues its slide (down 6% against the Yen since last Thurs.)
Oh, Sarah, what would a maverick do????
One thing she wouldn’t do is read the newspaper…especially when European brokers are describing the market as:
“It’s just in free fall. The outlook is still very bearish and we are nowhere near the bottom. There is no reason to buy anything at the moment.”
—
Oh, and John McCain and Sarah Palin better get Mavericky with all those Grand Ol Party people in the White House. While George Bush is hiding under his desk with Barney, Hank Paulson is turning the whole financial sector over to all his Goldman Sachs cronies.
Posted by: Bud | October 6, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
McCain has lost, why because he is running a smear campaign and NOT adressing the issues, what he would do to fix them. After all he said he doesn’t know it.
Posted by: Ranger Phx | October 6, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
And while McCain enjoys his afternoon nap and Lyin Sarah worries about “our neighbor” Afganistan, the financial meltdown continues:
-European markets close down a record 7.8%
and
-The dollar continues its slide (down 6% against the Yen since last Thurs.)
Oh, Sarah, what would a maverick do????
One thing she wouldn’t do is read the newspaper…especially when European brokers are describing the market as:
“It’s just in free fall. The outlook is still very bearish and we are nowhere near the bottom. There is no reason to buy anything at the moment.”
—
Oh, and John McCain and Sarah Palin better get Mavericky with all those Grand Ol Party people in the White House. While George Bush is hiding under his desk with Barney, Hank Paulson is turning the whole financial sector over to all his Goldman Sachs cronies.
Posted by: Bud | October 6, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
So this is the “NEW” Republican party?
Uh, right.
Same old party, same old ideas, and same old tactics (Or is it a stategy Maverick?)
Posted by: Gettin Mavericky | October 6, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
John McCain sat on a board.
“It was the U.S. Council for World Freedom. It was chaired by a guy named John Singlaub who wound up involved in the Iran Contra scandal. It was an ultra conservative right-wing group.
Posted by: 2Shay | October 6, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
What does it mean when David Axelrod says there’s “no evidence” they were close?
That’s pretty slippery. He can ask Obama, and speak directly for Obama. He should be able to say, “Obama says they were not close”. Saying there’s no evidence sounds as if he simply thinks someone else can’t prove they were close, but they may well have been.
Obama and Axelrod have both had to change their stories as new evidence has come up.
Why were they not just direct and honest from the beginning?
Posted by: MayBee | October 6, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
Ok, the Keating scandal will tar McCain for a few days, at least well after the debate. Obama should keep hammering McCain’s social security invested to the stock market, McCain’s health care tax and the economy tying McCain to Bush. But Obama is going to need another McCain scandal along the horizon. Does anyone know what that will be?
Posted by: Shawn | October 6, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
Can’t win on domestic policy
Can’t win on international policy
Can’t win on tax policy
Can’t win on medical care policy
Can’t win on financial policy
Can’t win on credibility (thanks Palin!)
Can’t win on judgment
Can’t win on personality
Can’t win with old war stories
Can’t win with a winking Pageant Princess
Can’t even win getting all mavericky
Uh, lets try name calling and fear tactics?
“I would rather sell my integrity than lose an election”
Posted by: Gettin Mavericky | October 6, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
Thank heavens the McCain campaign has turned the page on this financial crisis. The fact the rest of the nation has not proves his cheif economic adviser Phil Gramm was right when he called the U.S. a nation of whiners. Who you gonna believe, your 401K filtered by media elites or that nice Sarah Palin? You betcha. Wink, wink.
Posted by: ricky | October 6, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
If Obama wins in November, you’ll long for the good old days when the Dow only dipped below 10,000. Between November and January 20th, smart people will be selling their stocks in order to avoid paying the higher capital gains taxes Obama will impose. The only suckers caught in the falling market will be the common man with their 401k’s they’re too young to withdraw from.
All Obama has to do is crack open a history book and read how higher taxes prolong economic downturns. But he’s either too lazy to read or knows that scenario doesn’t play into the class warfare that’s his only chance of winning.
Posted by: marylou | October 6, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
If Obama wins, I predict that the economy will continue to be in crisis. He will blame republicans, ignoring democrats’ hands in the problem as well, and sadly announce that it will be necessary to raise taxes on people and businesses with incomes well below $250,000. Hey if GB could say no new taxes, why not Obama? He will also continue his social justice agenda, further placing our country in debt. We will see, hope all that hope and change helps…
UNLESS, he does as Clinton did, at the behest of the republican house and LOWERS the corporate tax rate to a European level at least. What?, you say? A European level? Yep. Shouldn’t we at least have a lower rate than DENMARK? 25% corporate rate in Denmark…hmmm.
Maybe, just maybe, businesses would be more likely to do business in the US if they could at least compete with EUROPE!
It is really not that hard…
Posted by: Wade | October 6, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
If McCain-Palin have dropped out in Michigan, does that mean the formerly productive American workers who once built Mavericks for Ford in that state know that model is a discontinued antique?
Posted by: ricky | October 6, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
Such a shame that we are about ready to enter a recession and all ABC news can do is write story after story about Palin.
Palin whines about the media and right off the bat, ABC kisses her butt.
There are more important stories to write about than Palin flapping her jaws about things she has no clue about.
Its not news worthy.
Why no stories about Palin’s husbands membership in the AIP ?
Come on Jake be fair or find another line or work…
Posted by: l | October 6, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
John McCain sat on a board.
“It was the U.S. Council for World Freedom. It was chaired by a guy named John Singlaub who wound up involved in the Iran Contra scandal. It was an ultra conservative right-wing group.
Posted by: 2Shay | Oct 6, 2008 1:32:24 PM
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You forgot that this “board” promoted Anti Semitic and Racist ideals!!!
Posted by: Davis | October 6, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
cardinal, Dr. King’s dream has come true. I am judging Obama by the content of his character – and have found him completely unfit to be POTUS!
McCain/Palin ’08!
Posted by: marylou | October 6, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm
I will support a lower tax rate for the rich as soon as they start contributing the same percentage to Social Security that us poor people have to pay.
Posted by: Dave | October 6, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
It seems that 95% of these posts are nothing more than rants equal to yelling at a wall. Since neither camp is willing to admit the imperfect nature of their position(s), I figure there’s a cathartic value in the ranting. I’d like a turn.
Like many, I voted for HRC – now I’m an island in this storm.
Though I historically favor the dems’ social positions, I’m fiscally conservative. Now that the dems are pushing Obama, I have a choice to support a candidate far left of my comfort zone – on both fiscal and social issues. Then there’s McCain – closer to the center, but sprinkled with some pandering to the right.
For me, it comes down to congress. Let’s face it, they’re about as lame a group of do-nothings as I’ve ever seen. A dem majority and they still can’t put meaningful legislation in from of Bush. Nancy and Harry spend more time bashing the right than doing their jobs. I’d have 1000% more respect if they made Bush get out a Republican veto pen.
So the question is, do we put a dem in the White House and give all the dems blank checks? Or let congress and McCain duke it out? I’ll take the latter.
Why? Take one of the biggest criticisms of the Paulson Plan (i.e. bailout). “Too much power and money in one guy’s hands.” Putting Obama in the WH is the equivalent – who’s gonna keep the gang of dems in check? A republican minority? You don’t have to agree with the ‘other party’ to admit the concentrated governmental authority is a bad thing.
Which brings me back to HRC. Would I vote for her if she had defeated Obama (all other congressional variables unchanged)? Probably – for 2 reasons. 1) She’s a polarizing (read, independent) figure. Lots of dems don’t like her. And she’s actually worked across the aisle in this world. 2) I know Bill isn’t supposed to count…but, we can’t ignore him. And his influence wouldn’t be all bad. Consider his efforts when supported by a dem congress. Didn’t take advantage. Then again, the dem leaders weren’t shrill partisans like the Harry and Nancy show.
Wow, I do feel a little better.
Posted by: SerenityNow | October 6, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
McCain can try turning the page, but he’s not holding the book. We the people decide what issues concern us and how they will affect our vote. I already knew about Ayers, Wright, and Rezko when I voted for Obama in the primary. I will vote for Obama again in the general election. People have forgotten or do not know that McCain was one of the Keating Five involved the the Savings & Loan scandal in 1989. Now they will be reminded. Obama for POTUS!
Posted by: dave | October 6, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
SerenityNow, you stated that you would have more respect for the Dem congress if they forced Bush to use his veto pen more often. Bush has vetoed more bills in the last two years than in all the previous six years. It’s true that the Dems are a majority in congress but in the senate, it’s 49 Repubs and 49 Dems with Lieberman caucusing with the Dems, thus giving them a majority. Not nearly enough of a majority to have any kind of control. The Republicans enjoyed control of the Congress and the White House for Six long years and look at the mess they’ve put us in! We need a Dem congress and Dem president to get us back on the right track…that would be balance.
Posted by: SerenityLater | October 6, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
The DOW plummeted 700 pts. today, and McCain wants to talk about some guy that Obama knew ten years ago. McCain can try turning the page on the economy, but the economy won’t let him.
Posted by: OMG | October 6, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
Okay, so Ayers is not related to the economy. What is Obama saying, besides “oversight” that will actually do anything to improve the economy?
Taxes. Will it help? I don’t see a connection.
Posted by: Wade | October 6, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
Seriously, this is so funny. If Ms. Palin actually took the time to do her homework, she would find that Bill Ayers is NOT a former/current terrorist. I had him as a professor at UIC and found him to be one of the most outstanding professors I’ve ever encountered. He met with students whenever they needed him and had our entire class in his home for a ‘field trip’. He would do anything for just about anyone, as would his wife. He is a true liberal and is a phenomenal human being!
Posted by: Pamela | October 6, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm
“I want just one of you ignorant spewing bots to tell me Obama’s plan for the economy, that will serve the crisis that we are in now”
There is one difference between Obama and McCain. Make the biggest spending cut in American history. End the war in Iraq, and let the Iraqi people govern them self. Save us 100-150 billion a year.
About the rest…
It’s campaign time, and both candidates promise a lot but we know we don’t have the money.
Don’t be naive, there is no money for the tax-breaks. Holtz-Eakin, McCain’s chief economic adviser, told you’re going to have to raise taxes whether you’re a Republican, a Democrat or a Martian.
Posted by: CLabs | October 6, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
I have not read all the responses, so I don’t know if anyone decided to say this, but… Sarah Palin was able to fit the New York Times in between her reading everything, and her reading everything else? Does Sarah Palin read up on anything? If she just Google’d once before she said something maybe she would think twice about what she was about to say, instead of saying anything the McCain writers push in front of her. If everyone Ayers was “associated” with was to be crucified, then some brilliant minds would be gone, including Obama. …I’ve just been handed a memo, McCain’s wife is a robot-terrorist. Must be true, no need to look it up.
Posted by: Toshiro Mifune | October 6, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
Let’s compare.
Obama was 8 years old when a guy he later knew in Chicago planned bombings. Obama had nothing to do with the plans.
McCain was an adult aged 52, and a US Senator representing Americans, when he himself executed corruption that led to bank meltdown of Lincoln Savings and Loans and cost American taxpayers $2 billion out of their own pocket to bail out the bank. Sound familiar? Obviously, that is relevant to today’s economic crisis.
Mr. Ayers donated two hundred dollars to Obama’s campaign, as a personal choice, with no strings attached.
Mr. Keating donated $112,000.00 to McCain, in return for policy changes of deregulation, that taxpayers never voted for.
That’s a stronger “association” to a criminal, for which McCain was investigated by the Senate Ethics Committee, than a mere “co-existance” where Obama happened to live near and work with some guy in his hometown.
In articles where you discuss Obama’s co-existance with a questionable character, perhaps it would be useful and fair to also include an apples-to-apples comparison of the characters that McCain “associates” with.
America is better than this.
Posted by: brooklyn | October 6, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
Somthing smells fishy…Gov. Palin??? The handlers said fine Sarah you want us to let you loose like the wayward moose you are –Go! And look at what happened…she pulled erroneous miscredible lies out of her flute…LOL She’s a waste of resources, but it will be good for the dems if she and the McCain camp gets just enough rope to hang themselves.
Posted by: required | October 6, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
So, Palin didn’t know about this old Ayers story?
Wow, she really is an idiot.
Posted by: Germanicus | October 6, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
At war the first casualty is the truth. At this electoral race the truth has been killed by McCain/Palin and the Republicans
Posted by: republicans nomore | October 6, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
We knew all about Ayers from the primary debates… and still the majority of voters support Obama.
And I’m not specifically talking polls here — I’m the first to say the only important poll is the one at the voting booth… whether my choice is up in the polls or down, I know they are not exact by any means.
What I’m talking about is far more revealing… and that is McCain/Palin campaign’s bringing this up NOW. Why not earlier if it’s such an important issue.
Palin never heard this before? Well, actually I can believe that of her… but McCain has totally known all of this for a long time. Before this election cycle, I would imagine (but I won’t state unequivocally because I don’t spread lies and rumors).
Posted by: dassis | October 6, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
I’m confused by the headline of this post. What exactly does the Industrial Average have to do with a campaign press release? You may as well blame it on what I had for lunch.
Posted by: Patrick | October 6, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
I think Palin is an idiot! Has she forgoten she actually has ties to a party calling for Alaska to break off from the United States.
Posted by: mainaj | October 7, 2008, 8:53 am 8:53 am
I am dismayed as I observe that I live in a country with a growing majority of people who want to elect a leader who has no regard for human life, as evidenced by his repeated rejection of legislature to provide any medical treatment of babies born alive as a result of botched abortions, and who is okay associating with those like Rev. Wright and Bill Ayers. They are anti-American, though they may not be jailed terrorists. I believe that you all need to go back and restudy American history, what our country was founded upon, and identify the qualities that made our founding fathers so successful. We have the oldest standing system of government in the world, more than two hundren years old. We need to return to the truths of the Word of God and judge the qualities of both men according to that. Remember, no one is perfect, not even the patriarchs of scripture, but we have a God who desires to use people that seek and serve him in order to accomplish his purposes in our lives, despite our blunders.
Posted by: Kathy | October 7, 2008, 10:29 am 10:29 am
I am dismayed as I observe that I live in a country with a growing majority of people who want to elect a leader who has no regard for human life, as evidenced by his repeated rejection of legislature to provide any medical treatment of babies born alive as a result of botched abortions, and who is okay associating with those like Rev. Wright and Bill Ayers. They are anti-American, though they may not be jailed terrorists. I believe that you all need to go back and restudy American history, what our country was founded upon, and identify the qualities that made our founding fathers so successful. We have the oldest standing system of government in the world, more than two hundren years old. We need to return to the truths of the Word of God and judge the qualities of both men according to that. Remember, no one is perfect, not even the patriarchs of scripture, but we have a God who desires to use people that seek and serve him in order to accomplish his purposes in our lives, despite our blunders.
Posted by: Kathy | October 7, 2008, 10:29 am 10:29 am
NAIROBI, Kenya —
The American author of a best-selling book attacking Barack Obama as unfit for the presidency was being deported from Kenya on Tuesday, a criminal investigations official said.
Oh, Obama… what now “my friend” and “fellow American”….
Posted by: msa123 | October 7, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am
McPain fiddles while the DOW burns.
Posted by: Colorado Dem | October 7, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am
Once again in a time of national crisis, our nation is being polarized with fear and hatred, this time led by Sarah Palin and John McCain.
It is the responsibility of the media to reveal truth, and NOT further fan the flames of an increasingly volatile situation. Not only has Palin successfully affixed a bulls-eye on Obama, she also is putting the press in great danger by stirring angry crowds.
This is a frightening situation in the face of a serious economic crisis. And, where is the “great leader” McCain? Along for the thrill-ride!
Out of concern for the safety of your reporters and the public at large, PLEASE refuse to report on Palin’s campaign rallies. Her untruths and her vitriol do NOT deserve your attention!
Also, in reporting about this, please do not further incite the situation. Please report as clearly and responsibly as possible. Palin does not speak facts. We need to learn them from you.
This is not “kitchen sink” campaigning; this is hate-filled and intentionally polarizing rhetoric. Please, let us not repeat the mistakes of the past.
Posted by: Deborah J | October 7, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am
Palin’s husband has connections with a radical separatist Alaskan group, Alaskans who hate America!
Posted by: carmen | October 7, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am
Maybe if you people watched McCain/Palin talk you would see that they are talking about the ecomony. Actually I haven’t heard Obama/Biden talk much about the ecomony, or how they plan on paying for giving 95% of the tax payers a tax break in this economy. I do feel that Barack Huessin Obama’s character should be questioned and I don’t see anybody questioning his qualifications to be President, his campaign would rather question the qualifications of Sarah Palin the bottom of the other ticket. What about his attachment to ACORN? PEOPLE WAKE UP, Barack Obama has absolutely no qualifications except to run for an office and THAT’S IT!
Posted by: Missy | October 7, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am
Missy – You haven’t heard Obama/Biden talk about economy because you may only listen to McCain. Everybody knows that economy is a hot topic for Obama/Biden, and they are talking about economy everyday. The person who is avoiding this topic is your favorite McCain. Everybody knows that he is now turning to personal attack rather than talking about economy. Obama will use the money that is spending in Iraq and the tax money that is giving to the wealthy to pay for his tax cut. How will McCain pay for his tax cut? How will McCain pay for the War in Iraq? Cutting government spending will NOT enough to pay for these expenses. You need to listen to both sides.
Posted by: Oh | October 7, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm
I find it interesting that these people keep bringing up this Alaska thing for Palin but fail to mention the bill that Obama and Biden signed a while back which would of gave the ok for Hawaii to leave the union. Face it guys Obama/Biden are much more kooky than McCain/Palin…no matter what things you spin. Also, I havent heard Obama talk much about how hes going to “save the nation” like the media thinks hes going to do. What is his idea for the economy? Also, the media FINALY covers ole Bill Ahers and its in a negative light to the republicans and not to Obama…WEIRD!
Posted by: Dan | October 7, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm
Palin unleashes the hatred we all know is really the only message Republicans have going for them.
With the crowd yelling “KILL HIM!” “HE’S A TERRORIST!” Palin encourages fear and foaming at the mouth hatred. She smiles while she incites Republicans to spew hate against a candidate running for office.
Posted by: Lee-Usa | October 7, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
You wont see the reports of Palin and McCain talking about the economy here. You need to go to other news agencies to see it. You also wont find the information on Obama and his terrorist friends and campain manager here. You need to see other news reports elsewhere.
Posted by: Jim Rod | October 7, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
In a 1991 interview, Alaskan Independence Party (AIG) founder, Joe Volger, said: ”The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government. And I won’t be buried under their damn flag.”
After denouncing Federal regulation of land use, he added: ”And then you get mad. And you say the hell with them. And you renounce allegiance, and you pledge your efforts, your effects, your honor, your life to Alaska.”
Todd Palin was a registered AIP member from 1995 to 2002, and the AIP leadership certainly considers Sarah Palin as one of their own.
Posted by: Lee-Usa | October 7, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
Sarah Palin ended her debate last Thursday with a quote from Ronald Reagan about how, if we aren’t vigilant, we’ll end up “telling our children and our children’s children” about the days when America was free.
Only Reagan wasn’t warning about Soviet aggression or terrorism. He was warning against legislation that would guarantee health care for older Americans – the program known as Medicare.
Now McCain is going after Medicare as well. McCain wants to pay for his health plan with MAJOR reductions to Medicare in a move that independent analysts estimate could result in cuts of $1.3 TRILLION.
Posted by: Lee-Usa | October 7, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
if all(and I mean all) of you have nothing better to do…get a job, pay some taxes, doesn’t matter who becomes president, they will not have a good approval rating as their campaign promises are lies, and we all know it so why argue. Just go and vote your useless vote and wait to see who the electoral college elects. Wake up America, your vote does not count. Read your history books.
Posted by: truth1 | October 7, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
Okay, Obama is a lawyer and Biden is a lawyer. Isn’t it the lawyers that messed this whole country up in the first place, including all the ones we have there now in office? That’s the single least trusted profession in the country according to polls for the last 10 years, and yet we have naive people all over the country thinking (it’s a miracle – they are going to tell the truth now?). Just because they say they will do something – DOESN’T mean they will! They get paid high salaries to lie professionally and twist words so you can’t understand what they are saying. Then they deceive people into thinking they sound so intelligent, so they get elected. WOW – That’s really what we need in office right now. What a JOKE! Let’s see a list of how they have ever helped you. But please start by listing the Bill you got from them. They are good at taking your money – just where they belong – in Washington. People wake up!
Posted by: Geo | October 7, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
Jake:
You may want to read excerpt from September 30th 1999 NY Times article before you tie Republicans to economic crisis!!
Fannie Mae Eases Credit To Aid Mortgage Lending
By STEVEN A. HOLMES
ln a move that could help increase home ownership rates among minorities and low-income consumers, the Fannie Mae
Corporation is easing the credit requirements on loans that it will purchase from banks and other lenders.
The action, which will begin as a pilot program involving 24 banks in 15 markets — including the New York
metropolitan region — will encourage those banks to extend home mortgages to individuals whose credit is generally not good enough to qualify for conventional loans. Fannie Mae officials say they hope to make it a nationwide program by next spring.
Fannie Mae, the nation’s biggest underwriter of home mortgages, has been under increasing pressure from the Clinton Administration to expand mortgage loans among low and moderate income people and felt pressure from stock holders to maintain its phenomenal growth in profits.
Better to do your homework and show some balanced reporting. I have not seen a reprint of this article anywhere in the media, but it is certainly circulating amongst taxpayers!
Posted by: Michael | October 7, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
Jake:
You may want to read excerpt from September 30th 1999 NY Times article before you tie Republicans to economic crisis!!
Fannie Mae Eases Credit To Aid Mortgage Lending
By STEVEN A. HOLMES
ln a move that could help increase home ownership rates among minorities and low-income consumers, the Fannie Mae
Corporation is easing the credit requirements on loans that it will purchase from banks and other lenders.
The action, which will begin as a pilot program involving 24 banks in 15 markets — including the New York
metropolitan region — will encourage those banks to extend home mortgages to individuals whose credit is generally not good enough to qualify for conventional loans. Fannie Mae officials say they hope to make it a nationwide program by next spring.
Fannie Mae, the nation’s biggest underwriter of home mortgages, has been under increasing pressure from the Clinton Administration to expand mortgage loans among low and moderate income people and felt pressure from stock holders to maintain its phenomenal growth in profits.
Better to do your homework and show some balanced reporting. I have not seen a reprint of this article anywhere in the media, but it is certainly circulating amongst taxpayers!
Posted by: Michael | October 7, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
It’s amazing how the democrats have yelled for the last two decades that Republicans were using fear tactics (terrorists, etc.) to win elections, and here we are in this campaign, all we hear from Obama is “fear tactics” – trying to scare people into believing that if we vote for McCain, it will be another 4 years of the Bush admininstration. Hypocrasy…
Posted by: Geo | October 7, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
This woman is a nut case.I will be my last dollar McCain is now wishing he had never put her on this ticket.He won’t admit it but baby you can bet on it.
What are they thinking.They have lost this race so now they want to ruin what is left of this country,,, …….
Posted by: NH voter | October 7, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
There is a huge difference between suggesting Obama supports local terrorists compare to suggesting McCain’s policies are no different from the current administration. Using words like terrorist, damning American, etc.. are fear-driven tactics. Asking people to compare McCain’s plans to Bush’s policies, on whether you want more of the same.. isn’t fear-driven, it’s reality. And a lot of people are facing the hardship of reality these days. If McCain’s plan was better, he wouldn’t have to divert his campaign to fear-driven tactics. It’s really sad, I thought McCain was better than that.
Posted by: Jennifer | October 7, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
It’s amazing how the democrats have yelled for the last two decades that Hey Geo, you wrote: Republicans were using fear tactics (terrorists, etc.) to win elections, and here we are in this campaign, all we hear from Obama is “fear tactics” – trying to scare people into believing that if we vote for McCain, it will be another 4 years of the Bush admininstration. Hypocrasy…
This is reality, not hypocrisy. And these aren’t scare tactics, it’s the cold hard truth. The Dems don’t have to “try” to scare anyone with a ’4 more years’mantra. As you can see by the polls, most people aren’t willing to go down that GOP road again.
Posted by: Sandra Johanson | October 7, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
To “Geo”…playing the “fear card” is no hypocrisy at all. It’s called a “major difference”.
The type of fear McSame and Wailin’ Palin is peddling is based in playing on people’s ignorance of the facts. Just as the Great Uniter has done for the last 8 years.
The kind of ALARM Obama is sending is a message that if you want another four years identical to the last eight years (let alone the last 8 weeks!)then vote for the man who stood side by side with the outgoing Administration 90% of the time. Now THAT is something to fear! Hypocrisy? Nah, just STRAIGHT TALK (wink wink!) you betcha!
Posted by: ConstitutionFirst | October 7, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm
I urge all voters to GOOGLE “Khlaid Al-Mansour’s connection with Obama” and then decide whether you could possibly vote for Obama!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: virginia | October 7, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
That’s what pit bulls are for after all!! Especially those of the female gender. When McShame has has no shame, no ideas, nothing of substance to offer, what else can you expect him to do but talk trash. The american people can see so clearly that this pair of “maverickls-not” would be a disaster for our country and the sooner they get lost together with the garbage that they are spewing, the better off we would be. The economy is in great danger of collapse and this pair of McShames think that we should ignore it and it would go away. Shame of those who still have a conscience and morals for not standing up to this pair of trash-bags. Say NO TO THE MCSHAMES!
Posted by: Karen | October 7, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
Sandra Johanson,
Pointing out that McCain will simply be four more years of Bush is not scare tactics. It is called telling the truth. The fact that McCain will indeed be like Bush is a scary thought…but it is the truth.
Posted by: indy_voter | October 7, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
Obama wishes the election would hurry up and get here as all these ghosts are coming out of the closets. I just heard that Dr. Corsi, who wrote a book on Obama and is in Kenya on their invitation to talk to Kenyans and go more investigation on Obama, was stopped from having a scheduled news conference and is being held in communicado in Kenya. Maybe Obama doesn’t want whatever Corsi had to say to get out before tonight’s debate. He is very close to and a hero in Kenya. My, my; his past may come back to haunt him. I wonder why ABC isn’t reporting this story. It’s all over the web. At least with the Internet we can see stories that major networks ‘censor’ from the voters.
Posted by: Mary | October 7, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
Posted by: Mary | Oct 7, 2008 4:25:02 PM
”I wonder why ABC isn’t reporting this story. It’s all over the web. At least with the Internet we can see stories that major networks ‘censor’ from the voters.”
Mary,you mean like the 13 minute web video about your ”honorable POW hero” McBush’s ties to The Keating Five scandal? This is all over the web too. Maybe you need to read instead of posting talking points.
Posted by: Hollyinla | October 7, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
The Palin-McCain ticket is so out of time. This is a dangerous, ambitious pitbull who would step over McCain to endear herself to the Rethugs so they’ll tap her in 2012. Some might have already.
Posted by: Hollyinla | October 7, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
Blame the media, spread propaganda, attack opponents, denounce intellectuals, spread fear of foreigners and minorities, etc..And strike when fear is high amongst the citizenry (economic failure, and crippling foreign policy)….Many Republicans come dangerously close to this…All that is really missing is the outright bigotry and racism, though I suspect for many it lingers just under the surface.
Posted by: indy_voter | October 7, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
Now I remember where I have seen Mrs. Palin before She was the mean girl at my high school.
Posted by: riddelup | October 7, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
Who the hell cares about Ayers. It is the economy and as long as Ayers has not committed a single murder and has not succeeded in hurting the US, he can be the pope for all I care. Palin does not have average intelligence but a good parrot and so don’t waste time in quoting her.
Posted by: gjkotw01 | October 7, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
I don’t know who’s going down faster McCain or the Dow? Does anyone really care about 30 or 40 years ago. Neither McCain or Obama, nor Ayers ( for that matter) were convicted for any crimes. So can we focus on the real issue the economy. Dang! you can’t tell me McCain knew Palin was such an extremist idiot.
Posted by: Charity | October 7, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
But they did have a choice. They could have taken the high-road and focused on real issues instead of resorting to dirty politics and character assassination. Maybe McCain would loose the election, but at least he would have been able to walk away with his honor and integrity relatively intact.
However, I believe McCain is now willing to sacrifice both of those qualities in a final attempt to become president. And if I had the opportunity to speak to him in person, I would look him directly in the eye and say it right to his face.
Posted by: Joe Sixpack | October 8, 2008, 4:08 am 4:08 am
I have read soo many comments, I am confused these Americans are so full of hate, paranoia (see Jerry and Olivia calling Obama a ‘part of Muslim plan to conquer USA/the world etc, God’s duty to halt it’, “ehm how did they know what God ‘s thoughts is? Are they God’s saints or what?),and lies and contra-lies etc.
I compared it with my country Indonesia’s history, full of rebellions (the Islam radicals pursuing an Islamist State, the Communist Party pursuing a communist state, etc),and/or independence revolts (Aceh, Maluku), since 50 years ago when the republic was still a kid.
What do we do towards the hundreds of thousands involved? They got amnesty from the former president (Soekarno) except the most big and dangerous one (the Communist party’s rebellio 1965),
(who was just given amnesty after the downfall of late President Soeharta), and NOBODY EVER TOUCHED AGAIN ALL THOSE HISTORICAL DEEDS DONE BY THOSE MEN IN THEIR YOUNG YEARS (they are all old men now).They live as normal lives as old people now accepted as friens, all forgotten and forgiven.
Why did people of such a big country like USA, a Christian too (Jesus said “forgive them..”), be afraid of such a small deed as putting a ONCE small bomb 40 years ago,done by a man now old, in his younger hot headed years?
I think the bomb was connected some way to the demonstrations against the Vietnam war by those thousands (or hundred thousands?) men in the l970′s demanding the end of a war claiming about 50.000 USA soldiers’ life.
And Palin, with her HATE RISING SPEECH AROUSING DESTRUCTIVE DEEDS (EMOTIONS)
she seemed to me AS A TRUE AGITATOR AT LEAST, OR A TERRORIST TEACHER AT MOST.
IF mcCain trails in economic polls,why didn’t he IMPROVE his ECONOMIC ATTRACTIVENESS? His character assasination like Bush did to Kerry would be erased by economic SITUATION, UNLIKE KERRY’s situation then.
om santi, Indonesia.
Posted by: om santi, Indonesia | October 8, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
Geo said: They get paid high salaries to lie professionally and twist words so you can’t understand what they are saying.
Just because you can’t understand what they’re saying doesn’t mean you should stop thinking intelligently in this election. Look it up, use a dictionary. You’re basically admitting that you are not intelligent. That is no way to prove your point.
Posted by: Lady Sixpack | October 8, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
Perhaps you should look at the left wing Congress for the answer to why the economy is in the tanks! Barney Rubble would have done a better job than Barney Frank!
Ever since the Democrats have taken over the Congress, they have made one poor decision after the other and neglected the tell tale signs of erosion.
Sure…the war has been an expensive undertaking…but I’d rather we have a big deficit than be DEAD. If you think it’s a coincidence we have not had another attack on US soil since 9/11, you are kidding yourself. It’s because Bush has done a great job at protecting us…saving YOUR butt, like it or not!
Posted by: Smart girl | October 9, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am
well i guess it is ok to support people who shoot doctors and blow up abortion clinics in the name of PRo Life.
NOT ONLY IS THEI THE RNC AS A WHOLE IT IS ALSO JOHN SIDNEY MCCAIN.
He one of his delegates at the conventionthis year, supported and praised a woman convicted of shootign a doctor at anabortion clinic in both arms. the judge in the case however, stated that this lady due to her actions deserved the label DOMESTIC TERRORIST.
LOOK IT UP.
MCCAIN AND DOMESTIC TERRORISM
BUT I GUES SINCE IT WAS AN ABORTION CLINIC THE RNC THINKS THAT IS OK.
Posted by: MARIO | October 9, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
Makes me wonder just what happened to Palin while at McCain’s ranch. To me, she has now become a “domestic terrorist”. Her hate speeches are inciting more hate, and, as we may soon see, violence. How can this behavior be allowed? I thought inciting a riot is illegal……….
Posted by: Linda | October 9, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
palin should be investigated for refering to obama as a terrorist. ten years ago nobody would of paid any attention to someone as stupid as palin. in today’s world an accusation of that nature made by someone who is on the political ticket to be v.p. needs to be responssible for what they say. she is a dangerous nasty viciously foul creature. if something happens to obama because of her race baiting and inciting the morons she needs to be held responsible. what she and mccain are doing ruins the elelction process. whatever happened to fair play and integrity. mccain and palin have gone to far. palin is committing political suicide. for what? mccain? more horribly bad judgement on her part. and what about that ghoul todd palin lurking around in the background of all her photos. doesn’t he have a life? who is taking care of the kids? it is just to wierd. these people are not normal.
Posted by: con46ie | October 9, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
jake, shouldn’t you start each post with, “I am a Democratatic party nationalist and I don’t mind saying what you will read is in no way objective.” so that those of us that are looking for some honesty don’t waste our time here?
Posted by: wow | October 9, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
I think McCain is past his prime. Way past his prime. At one debate, he invoked he glory of storming the beach at Normandy. At each debate, he opened by sending regards to “elder statesman” and their health crises (Kennedy, Nancy Reagan). Now we’re back with Cold War rhetoric about “socialism.”
Though acknowledging those colleagues having health problems is an honorable gesture, the whole pattern that emerges is a McCain who thinks like an old man fading out. His frame of reference seems to be not the 21st century but the concerns of the mid-20th century. And, he has shifted into retrospective, “closure” mode.
Posted by: Barbara Saunders | November 1, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
Since when is “Intellectuals in a Time of Crisis” a “lampoonable” title?!
You can sit on a board with someone (especially on a large, “prestige” board) without knowing the person well. Ditto appearing on a speaker’s panel.
Posted by: Barbara Saunders | November 1, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm