At the Foothills of the Smokey Mountains, Obama Assails McCain Attacks

Ahhh Republicans.
They say they’re not smearing anyone as they repeat the smears. And do so with a straight face.
They are obviously desperate.
Kind of sad what John McCain has been reduced to.

How interesting: in response to the Ayers TRUTH being revealed, Obama talks about smears and distractions, swiftboating, and the AP calls it racist (darn, that race card again!).
Yet, Obama has yet to deny the claims. WHY? because they are true! read the facts people, stanley kurtz has a very factual and revealing article , based on the Challenges own records.
There is absolutely no doubt that Obama was associated closely with a terrorist, a man who not only was responsible for several murders of law enforcement, but also, was not repentaent, and was photographed after 9/11 stepping on the American flag!
EVERY VETERAN, EVERY AMERICAN, EVERY HUMAN should be offended by Ayers and Obama. They disgust me more than I can say. How anyone can still deny this and support Obama blindly is just beyond me.

The history of John McCain is that he cracks under pressure. The Straight Talk Express is going downhill on the slalom course.

The National Association of Police Organizations endorsed Barack Obama today. On a conference call with reporters, NAPO president Tom Nee pledged the support of more than 287,000 police officers and 2,000 police organizations from around the country.
Joining Nee on the call was vice presidential nominee Joe Biden, who guaranteed Nee that an Obama administration would seek NAPO’s input on any crime bills and promised to increase federal support. “We are going to re-establish the Crime Bill,” Biden said. “We are going to put another 50,000 cops on the street. We are going to provide the kind of technological help you guys need.”

“McCain and Company remind me of punks on the corner, nothing positive to add, just drawing attention to themselves.”
That is an excellent observation and actually an accurate description of McCain and many of his cynical adherents that crowd these blogs.
The fight against cynicism is IMO one of the strongest motors of the “Obama movement” in America today.

Now let’s get this straightened out …
Associating MCCain with Bush is just fine BUT
Associating OBAMA with REZKO, REV. WRIGHT AND ALL HIS QUESTIONABLE PALS is not fine????
OBAMA, YOUR ASSOCIATIONS AND THE ONES YOU CHOOSE AS YOUR FRIENDS IS IMPORTANT TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE …
GET THAT INTO YOUR HEAD THAT IT WILL BE A DECIDING FACTOR IN YOUR ELECTION…
YOU ARE WHAT YOU EAT …
YOUR CONSTANT ASSOCIATION WITH THIS WEIRDOS IS A PATTERN OF BEHAVIOR, IT IS NOT A COINCIDENCE .. YOUR RECORD MATTERS. WORDS CAN LIE, RECORDS DON’T
NO OBAMA 08 …

John McCain: smears first, Michigan last.

BRING ON THE SMEARING,McCAINIS REALLY DESPERATE.BUT OBAMA JUST BRUSH IT OFF.AN SARAH CAN`T STAY OUT OF THE BED LONE ENOUGH TO MAKE A GOOD SMEAR.

McCain should be honest and say “mein Kampf” instead of “my campaign”. He’s a DIRTY poltician, a maffia boss of the gambling world, a patron of Kremlin lobbyists as Rick Davis on the one hand and a former board of the extremisr right wing U.S. Council for World Freedom on the other, a cynic of power whose human integrity was destroyed by the criminal Vietcong, a dangerous opportunist in an America that needs decency, honesty, transparency and the opposite of cynicism in its leadership.

The news media is so liberally biased I rarely bother to read it any more.

Paul Begala wrote a book about McCain and knows everything about the man.
Part of his comment today:
“This guilt by association path is going to be trouble ultimately for the McCain campaign. You know, you can go back, I have written a book about McCain, I had a dozen researchers go through him, I didn’t even put this in the book. But John McCain sat on the board of a very right-wing organization, it was the U.S. Council for World Freedom, it was chaired by a guy named John Singlaub, who wound up involved in the Iran contra scandal. It was an ultra conservative, right-wing group. The Anti-Defamation League, in 1981 when McCain was on the board, said this about this organization. It was affiliated with the World Anti-Communist League – the parent organization – which ADL said “has increasingly become a gathering place, a forum, a point of contact for extremists, racists and anti-Semites.”
Now, that’s not John McCain, I don’t think he is that. But you know, the problem is that a lot of people know John McCain’s record better than Governor Palin. And he does not want to play guilt by association or this thing could blow up in his face.”

So, how many of you are losing your home and car based on McCain and Palin economics? That’s the issue here, those two are more dangerous than Bin Laden!

Yeah! Now that Palin is out their spouting off about Obama’s pretend relationship with Ayers, who was an activist while Obama was a child, at least now we can talk about Palin’s courtship with the ANTI-American and secessionist AIP, and her husband Todd”s MANY YEARS of membership. VERY RECENTLY. One has to wonder why the Palin’s hate America, and what their motives are now and her wanting a VP power grab, and about McCain’s duplicity regarding the Palins” history. if that fails we can talk about Palin’s WITCH-HUNTING MINISTER.

NO OBAMA 08
Associating McCain with Bush only works as far as people believe it – and depends on what people think of Bush in the first place.
Likewise, associating Obama with the few of his hundreds of acquaintances who may have said or done something bad in the distant past will also work as far as people believe it – or care.
So far not so much.

Obama was 8 years old when Ayers was a member of the Weatherman. McCain was an adult and a senator when he associated with Charles Keating, another bailout scandal. Which one bothers you more?

McCain can distort the truth all he wants, but the American people are wiser than they were 4 years ago. It is blatantly obvious that McShame is on the ropes and looking for anyhting to slow down his decent. Obama will continue to speak about what matters, the economy, health care and the environment. Let McShame throw mud, there is plenty of skeletons in his closet that can be brought out as well. the Keating 5, His history of infidelity, gambling rumors, P.T.S.D., his wifes drug addiction and Palind troopergate. I could go on, but you get the picture.

Ignorance can be cured with education stupidity cannot. Unfortunately the McCain political camp is stupid not ignorant.

No more drama vote for Obama! Dont let the smears or lies take over. Fight the lies with the truth and keep on talking about the economy. Go Obama/Biden.

It is about time that Obama’s radical associations are deeply and thoroughly looked into. The leiberal media have let these associations slide by. I am certain that the coyuntry does not want to have a person as president whose associates are Bill Ayers, Tony Rezko and Jeremiah Wright.

Paul Begala wrote a book about McCain and knows everything about the man.
Part of his comment today:
“This guilt by association path is going to be trouble ultimately for the McCain campaign. You know, you can go back, I have written a book about McCain, I had a dozen researchers go through him, I didn’t even put this in the book. But John McCain sat on the board of a very right-wing organization, it was the U.S. Council for World Freedom, it was chaired by a guy named John Singlaub, who wound up involved in the Iran contra scandal. It was an ultra conservative, right-wing group. The Anti-Defamation League, in 1981 when McCain was on the board, said this about this organization. It was affiliated with the World Anti-Communist League – the parent organization – which ADL said “has increasingly become a gathering place, a forum, a point of contact for extremists, racists and anti-Semites.”
Now, that’s not John McCain, I don’t think he is that. But you know, the problem is that a lot of people know John McCain’s record better than Governor Palin. And he does not want to play guilt by association or this thing could blow up in his face.”

Wail these two fight on a few small words the Country is going down hill with the bailout!!
Stop the stupied fighting and talk about the facts, thats what BARR is doing!
BARR fought the bailout while Obama and McCain voted for it dispite the fact that 78% of American did not want it.
Vote BOB BARR and other LIBERTARIANS in office this yea based on th FACTS!!

I think “No Bama 08″ compared George Bush to Ayers, etc…. but, there is a difference –
Ayers DID clarify his comment that is quoted by the Republican smear machine as the “unrepentant” one from 2001.
Bush hasn’t offered one iota of mea culpa for the state of the country he and his buddies have said “so [what]” to!

McCain shouldn’t go down the guilt by association path given his Keating Five past.

Lets not forget Mccain’s associations: G. Gordon Liddy a man who tried to subvert american democracy and with whom Mccain has a continuing association; The keating 5. And what about Palin? Married to an Alaskan seperatist belonging to a party that would see Alaska leave the United States. ABC lets look at those associations.

WHY IS OBAMA AFRAID TO GO TO THE CHARACTIER ISSUE?
IF YOU HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE, YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE TO FEAR, OBAMA …
LET THE FACTS BE PRESENTED TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, AND LET THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DECIDE …
THAT IS FAIR ENOUGH …

Obama is not fit to be president of the USA!……
Obama has been marinated in revolutionary ideology from his birth-mom, dad, step-dad!…… Consequently, he has been drawn to people with similar world views, and there are many of them including his wife!……
Unfortunately, his formation has resulted in a guy not in sinc with Americans or American values!……
The content of Obama’s “change” ideology or his world view has been glossed over and everyday Americans just look at his corporate welfare promises not his class warfare srategy!
Also, we have been in recession bordering on a serious depression before, and we spent many years recovering from the results of strategies like Obama’s!…… But, he is so full of himself that he just doesn’t get it! :(

Danielle,
McCain has associations with mob bosses. He even sent one a birthday greeting. I doubt you will see Obama bring this up.
McCain First, Country Second

Danielle:
“If McCain had a buddy that bombed abortion clinics in the past, I know for a fact that the Obama camp would not brush that off.”
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If it was 40 years ago, and that person neither planned nor advocated doing it now, and that person was now significantly contributing to society, then YES the Obama camp would ignore it. Out of millions of supporters, some might not, but the Obama camp would.
Leave to McCain/Hill to wallow in the mud (with lipstick of course).

SEND OBAMA TO JAIL.

Excuse me but wasn’t Palin’s husband involved with the cessation party of Alaska. Correct me if I’m wrong but that is treasonous and punishable by life in prison or execution. She also attended the event. Her views are more radical then many are led to believe. Just listen to some of the pastor sermons in her church. Guilt by association. Let’s start with Palin and McSame and the Keating 5!!!!

Oh Please,
Palin is a liar. She is not fit to
be a governor nor a Vice-President.
go and ahead and vote or her and reap
what you sow. This lady will never be
honest. All who vote for her will be
stratching their heads going what did
she say Oh another lie!!
You won’t know her truths from all her
lies. She is the biggest liar.

Guilt by association indeed.
From an earlier post:
Paul Begala wrote a book about McCain and knows everything about the man.
Part of his comment today:
“This guilt by association path is going to be trouble ultimately for the McCain campaign. You know, you can go back, I have written a book about McCain, I had a dozen researchers go through him, I didn’t even put this in the book. But John McCain sat on the board of a very right-wing organization, it was the U.S. Council for World Freedom, it was chaired by a guy named John Singlaub, who wound up involved in the Iran contra scandal. It was an ultra conservative, right-wing group. The Anti-Defamation League, in 1981 when McCain was on the board, said this about this organization. It was affiliated with the World Anti-Communist League – the parent organization – which ADL said “has increasingly become a gathering place, a forum, a point of contact for extremists, racists and anti-Semites.”
Now, that’s not John McCain, I don’t think he is that. But you know, the problem is that a lot of people know John McCain’s record better than Governor Palin. And he does not want to play guilt by association or this thing could blow up in his face.”

One question keeps bothering me…
If Ayers is a known terrorist, why is he a professor at the University of Illinois and not locked away in some cell in Guantanamo?
Is it Clinton’s fault? I just want to know…

Oh please, is this the best they can do?
Choosing Palin was McCain’s first act of desperation.
These kind of tactics are the ship going down…

John McCain is chairman of the IRI – how much money is put in his pocket from this organization.

John McCain’s personal fortune traces back to organized crime in Arizona, through his father-in-law, according to a report published by a multi-news agency team called Investigative Reporters and Editors Inc.
IRE reporters Amy Silverman and John Doherty, writing in the Phoenix New Times, note that the father of McCain’s wife, James Hensley, was convicted by a federal jury in U.S. District Court of Arizona in March 1948 on seven counts of filing false liquor records. Hensley also was charged with conspiracy to hide from federal authorities the names of persons involved in a liquor industry racket with two companies he managed, United Sales Company in Phoenix and United Distributors in Tucson.
The umbrella company, United Liquor, at that time held a monopoly in Arizona, organized and managed by Kemper Marley, who was accused of mob ties by a reporter who was murdered in 1977.
Silverman and Doherty report that by 1955, Hensley had launched a Budweiser distributorship in Phoenix, “a franchise reportedly bestowed upon him by Marley, who was never indicted in the 1948 liquor-law-violation case ­ or a subsequent one ­ despite his controlling role in the liquor distribution businesses.”
According to Marley’s longtime public relations man, Al Lizanetz, the Marley liquor empire was founded by the Bronfman family dynasty of Canada which operated Allied Finance Company, Northern Export Company and Distillers Corporation ­ the Seagrams, Ltd. empire.
As chronicled by the “Rumrunners and Prohibition” video shown popularly on the History Channel, during the 1920s, the Bronfman family made millions in bootlegging, accounting for half the illegal liquor crossing the border, working in a profitable distribution deal with the infamous mobster Meyer Lansky, who later moved on to establish the crime syndicates in the casinos of Havana, Cuba, in the 1940s and 50s.
Arizona in the 1970s drew a “who’s who” of organized crime figures seeking to retire in the sun, including Rochester, N.Y., mob boss Joe Bonanno, who spent his last days along the Lake Havasu shores and in a quiet home in Tucson.
In 1977, after Arizona Republic reporter Don Bolles was killed when his car was blown up by the mob in a parking lot, a team of 36 journalists from 27 news organizations, known as IRE, published an 80,000 word 23-part series on organized crime in Arizona.
Dan Nowicki and Bill Muller, reporting in the Arizona Republic March 1, 2007, documented that in 1953, Hensley was again charged with falsifying records at Marley’s liquor firms.
Hensley was found not guilty after being defended by William Rehnquist, the future chief justice of the Supreme Court, Nowicki and Muller wrote.
In 2000, Hensley, then 80 years old, still controlled the Budweiser distributorship valued as a $200 million-a-year business, with annual sales of more than 20 million cases of beer.
On Feb. 17, 2000, Pat Flannery reported in the Arizona Republic that Hensley’s beer-distribution empire was the fifth largest in the nation, “a Budweiser franchise whose bigwigs hold the No. 2 spot on Sen. John McCain’s all-time career list of corporate donors.”
Since 1982, according to the Center for Public Integrity, Hensley & Co. officials have pumped $80,000 into the campaigns of McCain, Flannery wrote. More than a quarter of that has been donated since 1997.
Flannery further reported that in 2000, Cindy Hensley McCain, the senator’s wife, held a 37.18 percent financial interest in her father’s Budweiser distributorship, although she was not involved in day-to-day operations.
The McCain’s four children held a combined 23.55 percent interest, though their interests were at that time held in trust.
Arizona crime connections again surfaced in the 1980s when McCain was implicated as one of the five U.S. senators named in the “Keating Five” scandal.
Charles Keating Jr. and his associates paid McCain some $112,000 in political campaign contributions between 1982 and 1987, while Keating was organizing a massive real estate fraud in the then FDIC federally insured Lincoln Savings and Loan Association.
In April 1986, McCain’s wife and father-in-law also invested $359,000 in a Keating shopping center, before the savings and loan scandal broke.
Keating was sent to prison under civil racketeering and fraud charges for the $1.1 billion loss the investment scheme cost the public, although McCain and the other U.S. senators involved managed to avoid charges in the Senate, with McCain receiving only an Ethics Committee rebuke for exercising “poor judgment.”
Even today, McCain’s 2008 presidential campaign staff includes several prominent lobbyists, despite the senator’s claim to be a campaign reform crusader whose goal is to take money out of politics.

What a great day (weekend) for the Truth to come out about Obama’s ties to these radicals and racists.

McCain’s personal fortune traces back to organized crime in Arizona, through his father-in-law, according to a report published by a multi-news agency team called Investigative Reporters and Editors Inc.
IRE reporters Amy Silverman and John Doherty, writing in the Phoenix New Times, note that the father of McCain’s wife, James Hensley, was convicted by a federal jury in U.S. District Court of Arizona in March 1948 on seven counts of filing false liquor records. Hensley also was charged with conspiracy to hide from federal authorities the names of persons involved in a liquor industry racket with two companies he managed, United Sales Company in Phoenix and United Distributors in Tucson.
The umbrella company, United Liquor, at that time held a monopoly in Arizona, organized and managed by Kemper Marley, who was accused of mob ties by a reporter who was murdered in 1977.

McCain’s personal fortune traces back to organized crime in Arizona, through his father-in-law, according to a report published by a multi-news agency team called Investigative Reporters and Editors Inc.
IRE reporters Amy Silverman and John Doherty, writing in the Phoenix New Times, note that the father of McCain’s wife, James Hensley, was convicted by a federal jury in U.S. District Court of Arizona in March 1948 on seven counts of filing false liquor records. Hensley also was charged with conspiracy to hide from federal authorities the names of persons involved in a liquor industry racket with two companies he managed, United Sales Company in Phoenix and United Distributors in Tucson.
The umbrella company, United Liquor, at that time held a monopoly in Arizona, organized and managed by Kemper Marley, who was accused of mob ties by a reporter who was murdered in 1977.

There’s Joey Bonanno, a mobster whose birthday and funeral McCain had been invited to (though he declined to attend but sent Bonanno his birthday wishes; he is also reputed to have received campaign donations from this mob family). There’s his wife’s family’s long connection to mob henchman Kemper Marley, believed to have assassinated an Arizona reporter in 1972. And how about G. Gordon Liddy, convicted of plotting the Watergate break in and secretly advocating kidnapping war protesters? He also told his radio audience to shoot for the head if they were ever confronted by the ATF because they wear “bulletproof” vests. There’s Oleg Deripaska who Rick Davis arranged meetings between Deripaska and McCain after the State Department “yanked his Visa” in 2006 due to his ties to organized crime. The first meeting was in January 2006 and the second was in Montenegro in August 2006. Later that month, Deripaska wrote to Davis and his partner to thank them for arranging the meeting. “Thank you so much for setting up everything in Klosters so spectacularly,” he wrote. “It was very interesting to meet Senators McCain, Chambliss and Sununu in such an intimate setting.” This is just the tip of the iceberg but if McCain is ready to go that route, I’m sure he’ll be the one on the losing end.

Good for Obama – never let the sun go down without fighting back at these smears. The McCain/Palin campaign is getting desperate. Pathetic bunch they are.

McCain is a LOSER!!! Now we’re going to have a Black President. At least he’s smart enough to surround himself with smart people. After all, he beat a Clinton and they had not lost in almost 30 years. Get over yourselfs. McCain in a loser.

wow, The republicans are going back to this again. I guess trying to win on sympathy didn’t work. why go back to a dry well? the American public knows all these things About Obama are debunked, why bring them up again?
For anyone who still thinks Obama is not an American go to fact check . They have all the proof you need.

No way No how NOBAMA !! NEVER!!!!

If Braack Obama manages the economy like his buddies in Washington managed the housing market, will the resulting depression cause another civil war?
I suppose the US could implement the Biden plan — the Eastern United States can be socialists, the Middle United States can be capitalists, and the Western United States can be communists.

PALIN IS CLEARLY A STREET FIGHTER. SHE HAS LIMITED INTELLECT BUT IS TRYING DESPERATEY TO GET ATTENTION AND VOTES. THE POOR LADY IS UNABLE TO DEAL WITH ISSUES, SO IS CONDUCTING A CAMPAIGN OF SMEAR AND SLANDER. GOD HELP US IF SHE REMAINS IN THE POLITICAL ARENA. FORTUNATELY SHE WILL LIKELY FADE LIKE JOE MCCARTHY AND HIS KIND.

Obama is clearly the best choice for our next president – especially when it comes to foreign policy. McCain is too black and white (like Bush; with us or against us). We need a thinking president who will weigh all the options before making a decision; not just shoot from the hip and ask questions later.

I dont believe Obama is a terrorist but i do truly beleive he is a far-left radical and has known associations with people and community groups that are just this. I dont trust him one bit. when he was a state senator they called him the Senator for Acorn becuase he basically did what he could for this group(which is now facing voter fraud and also helped us get intot his economic crisis by forcing banks to give out sub-prime mortgages to people who couldnt afford them).

Obama’s typical technique is to try to divert attention away from his sordid past by invoking words like “silly” and “smear” and “preposterous”, then in parallel his campaign operatives, on background, start leaking phrases like “racially tinged” or “racial overtones” in order to get the race card pumping. Anything to protect the Obama from the press investigating his past. I can see the pattern, I hope you can.

Welcome back Carter!
Welcome back staglfation.
Welcome back gas lines.
Welcome back double digit unemployment!

What a pathetic empty suit we have running for President (or Dictator in his case). Here’s the kind of sick human you guys have been brainwashed to be worthy and are supporting.
Obama voted against the practice of allowing babies who have escaped the abortionist’s attempts to murder them, to live. So….they are left to die on their own if they are born alive from a botched abortion. (Maybe you’ve seen the tv spot featuring someone who a couple of decades ago, did escape this? She begs Obama to change his mind….) This kind of deep cruelty and disregard for human life in anyone is abhorrent, but in a PRESIDENT?!

alec; you better be very afraid then…since Obama will win in a landslide. When Fox News does a story about G Gordon Liddy and his pal Mccain then I might give them some credit for being anything other than a fear and hate-mongering station. Ayers is nothing to Obama….

What TRUE American launches their political career from an UNREPENTANT TERRORITS home??? There needs to be an investigation into Obama’s ties to Ayers by someone who will tell the truth and not the usual MSM LIARS who are in the tank for the “Chosen One.” Obama has too many anti-American friends. Obama took the American flag off of his plane and replaced it with a rising sun. I wonder what that rising sun stands for. WAKE UP! I can’t believe that there are that many stupid Americans. Start doing some research on this guy and the 20 or so associations he has. I don’t care if you want to call it guilt by association. NO ONE has this many anti-American associations and isn’t anti-American themselves!

Everyone is so sure they know what caused the current finanicial crisis. Yet everyone offers a different reason.
I.e., we’re hearing BS.

Barack Obama did it with Hillary Clinton during the primary season and now he’s doing it again during the fall campaign season: If you criticize him in any way, his surrogates and friends in the media accuse his opponents of overt and covert racism. Talk about shameful behavior. The Obama campaign cheapens the word “racist” by accusing any opponent of being a racist. As a lifelong Democrat who marched for civil rights during the sixties, I find this tactic of the Obama camp to be disgusting. I plan to vote for John McCain even though I risk being called a racist for doing so.

Palin’s husband was a member of a political group that wanted to stop being a part of America and make Alaska its own entity. Sound patriotic? McCain has big oil lobbyist helping run his campaign, they are not “upstanding” citizens in today’s economy that’s for sure. His father in law made deals and is rumored to have worked with the mob. It’s not that anyone will care and thus unless McCain and Palin are Snow White and Mr. Clean they really shouldn’t throw stones. Obama is a nice man, thoughtful, considerate and a good husband and father. He’s never been accused of outbursts of anger nor irratic behavior like McCain. Obama is the only choice to lead our country in 08

Wow, Obama is the biggest cry baby in the historyu of US preisendtial politics. LOL! Really pathetic, Barry!
Obama’s chickens are coming home to roost!
Oh, and keep calling us racists, Obama and mainstream media/cheerleaders. We love it when you do that!!
We are so sick of Obama’s whining and race card dealing.
America is going to rise up and put an end to the Obama regime on election day!

How many people are losing their home or their car because of government action? The Constitution requires the government to pay fair market value for anything they take.
Chances are the people who are losing their homes and/or their cars are losing their assets because they bought more than they could afford or they suffered a personal tragedy that sapped their resources. The answer for both is also in the Constitution — file bankruptcy, keep enough to get a fresh start, and rebuild your life.
Communism isn’t the answer. Socialism isn’t the answer. Personal responsibility is.

Even Rove has come out to say that McCain shouldnt have telegraphed the attack line. Theyve just given Obama a free counterattack.
Obama will just repeat the strategy and note that McCain is living in la-la land instead of addressing the economy.

“We figured it out all by ourselves. Anyone who votes for Obama is a terrorist/racist against americans.”
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And anyone who disagreed with Bush was unpatriotic, right? (Don’t worry about McCain. He was apparently patriotic because he has supported Bush all the way.)
McCain and the Fearmongering Express.

John McCain sat on the board of a very right-wing organization, it was the U.S. Council for World Freedom, it was chaired by a guy named John Singlaub, who wound up involved in the Iran contra scandal. It was an ultra conservative, right-wing group. The Anti-Defamation League, in 1981 when McCain was on the board, said this about this organization. It was affiliated with the World Anti-Communist League – the parent organization – which ADL said “has increasingly become a gathering place, a forum, a point of contact for extremists, racists and anti-Semites.”

America, what about the U.S. Savings and Loan crisis of the 1980s and early 1990s was the failure of 747 savings and loan associations (S&Ls) in the United States. The ultimate cost of the crisis is estimated to have totaled around $160.1 billion, about $124.6 billion of which was directly paid for by the U.S. taxpayer?
The core allegation of the Keating Five affair is that Keating had made contributions of about $1.3 million to various U.S. Senators, and he called on those Senators to help him resist regulators. McCain said, “I have done this kind of thing many, many times,” and said the Lincoln case was like “helping the little lady who didn’t get her Social Security.
McCain and Keating had become personal friends following their initial contacts in 1981, and McCain was the closest socially to Keating of the five senators. McCain was criticized by the Committee for exercising “poor judgment” when he met with the federal regulators on Keating’s behalf.
McCain and his supporters, before you sling **** at Obama look at your own front and back yard!!!
Obama/Biden08 real Leadership that you can TRUST!!!!

Jake, it might be interesting to try to explain, as a journalist, why pretty much ALL McCain fanboys and Palin fangirls that post on your blog are incredibly angry, bitter, agressive and rude.
And that after 8 years of GOP rule!

karela…
Don’t worry.. if Mccain wins, your kids and grand kids are gonna go to Iraq for VICTORY!!!!!

Small minds always think small. it is obvious that McCain has no more ammunition than turning into himself into right wing racist following palin’s little brain cell. We are all paying the price for every single policy that McCain supported.
MCCAIN-IS IDENTICAL TO BUSH
MCCAIN- SUPPORTED EVERY SINGLE POLICY THAT HAS PUT AMERICA IN THIS MESS
MCCAIN-IS SUFFERING FROM DEMENTIA (HIS TRUE MEDICAL RECORDS SHOW THIS)
MCCAIN- IS TOO OLD AND ILL TO BE PRESIDENT WHILST PALIN IS SIMPLY TO STUPID

How sad.
Sarah Palin is so weak that she has nothing better to do than smear and tear down.
Ask Sarah about here connectons with LeHay and Dobson and their right wing ultra consevative Christian unholy alliance.
You want to really get sick?
Sad, so sad.

Perhaps Obama is responsible for the common cold, too. After all he has been associated with it on several occasions.

Any person with a half a brain that thinks what McCain and Palin are now doing in this election is just, is not part of the America the majority are looking at. Enough with the smears, Enough with no ideas, Enough inferior intellect, Enough of the winks and moronic statements, Enough of FOX NEWS and their blatant lies… This time around the brains will prevail. Hope and change are coming Sarah Palin and Mr. McCain and your NEW Karl Rove campaign WILL not work!

The old man looked really tired to me,and the heehaw bozo palin is not helping.The country is in economic catastrophe: foreclosures left right and center,job losses, health care ad lst goes on.They must think the American people are stupid.The can entertain all they want, but sorry to say,the comedy is over.This is a new dawn,people are tired of the lies and gimmicks.

Obama will deny any association and lie through his teeth to get what he wants. “Birds of a feather flock together” and he has clearly flocked with some of the most radical, racists, extremists in the country. Wright, Pfleger, Raines, Rezko, Ayers, Farakhan etc… Anyone who attends a church for 20 years where the pastor preaches hate and damns and defames America and the white race, should not be President of this country. He has mingled with criminals, extremist, racists, terrorists and now he wants the country to think he is a choir boy ready to lead. He is running for his own agendas, and considering his past associates, one would have to wonder just what his agendas are.

But the Times has yet to mention, let alone devote an entire article to, Sen. John McCain’s relationship with radio host and convicted Watergate burglar G. Gordon Liddy.
GORDON LIDDY, A CONVICTED BURGLAR.

killerbee:
Charles manson??? Wow, what next? Atilla the Hun?
Relax, Ayers is a highly respected professor, person and worker in his community.

just look at the real picture, Obama fell right in with the rest of the theives in the bail out rip-off. lost my vote. thought he was a fair man, guess i’m not to bright. might as well vote to continue the present bush s-c-r-e-w you campain and vote republician.

G Gordon Liddy……good old pal of McCain.

Jake it is about time that the Ayers, is brought to the voters. If this had not been covered up by the press since last year, there would have been different results in the primaries, Did the Press set on information that was know by many for months, or are they just lazy and write what was sent to them by canidates, Appently the later is the answer. Dont anyone forget that we are hiring someone to lead and it is important that we know about the past and present associates.

Don’t like Obama don’t vote for him. Some people like filth and that would be the McPalin ticket.

A Word For The Wise-
All these posts that say “I’m a former Hillary Democrat sick of liberal politics” is just a Red-Stater posing as a Democrat. Pay no attention.

Give me a break, this is a typical Karl Rove tatic. You are losing so we are going to attempt to smear the man. Oddly enough the Republicans have had the white house for 8 years and all of sudden the financial situation is Obama’s fault please. Do not fear what is new, we will not take your guns, force your daughters to have abortions or hang Joe 6 pack. It is our hope that we can ALL benefit from Barrack Obama’s presidency. Unless you are a racisit, which many people are I can not see a reason why anyone would not vote for Obama. Further more McCain better watch what he starts he is not exactly pure as the driven snow – give me a break, give us all a break and vote for Obama

jerry
Y’all have been talking about Ayers from more than six months. Nothing has been “covered up.” It’s just that nobody cares.

Does McCain STILL don’t understand that Americans are waiting for policy proposals instad of smears?
Then he is truly out of touch with what the large majority of Americans cares about these days.
Plus, he needs some new advisers for the last month of his ever more desperate campaign.
Last time he dared to say “straight talk”?
I’m afraid he’s zig-zagging his Erratic Express into the ditch at high speed.
Mitt Romney would have done better, certainly on the economy.

5 Things that Don’t Matter to Obama Supporters
1) His religion — they don’t believe he heard Rev Wright’s sermons, or he didn’t take those sermons to heart, or that he merely attended Trinity for political purposes.
2) His associates — they don’t care that his only real leadership role was given to him by William Ayers and they don’t care that he would not have been able to buy his Chicago mansion without the assistance of Tony Rezko.
3) His campaign financing — they don’t care that he flip-flopped on public financing, they don’t care that he refuses to provide a listing of his smaller donors, and they don’t care that he has fundraisers working for him overseas and sending money to his campaign.
4) His position on abortion — they do not believe that he did not support the Born Alive Infant Protection Act or that the common practice as his wife’s hospital was to put children who survived an abortion procedure in a soiled linen closet until they died — IL Congressional testimony to that effect be damned.
5) His position on gun control — they don’t care that he has previously supporting banning all handguns and that he supports huge taxes increases on hunting ammo and weapons. They also don’t believe that the Global Anti-Poverty Act contains the UN Millenium standards requiring a ban on “small arms”
5 Things that Matter to Obama Supporters
1) He is black. We need diversity in the Whitehouse.
2) He is running on the Democratic ticket. The Republicans have been in the White House too long.
3) He is not George Bush. Obama supporters hate George Bush.
4) He is not a Clinton. Obama’s most ardent supporters hate Bill and Hillary Clinton. They are old school and he is new and cool.
5) He is Barack Obama. Damnit, that is reason enough.

Translation of today’s headlines from the McCain camp: “Mayday, Mayday!”

STOP DAMAGE TO OUR ECONOMY AND COUNTRY
STOP MCCAIN AND THE THE DOG WITH LIPSTICK!
MCCAIN IS TOO OLD WITH NOTHING NEW TO OFFER. REMEMBER ONE FOOT IN THE GRAVE!

pamp(6:56):
good post. do you have a link to that?

what have we got here? A candidate who puts forth a VP pick who looks good but can’t answer questions in a straight forward manner without a wink, blink and a aw shucks. McCain thinks you guys all vote with a beer in one hand and you @#$# in the other. All dreaming about how good she’d look splayed over a 69 mustang.HAAAAAAA

Oh people would care about ayers if the media actually covered the story for more than half a day.
Edwards Affair- 1-2 days coverage
Trooper Gate July-October.
Ayers 3 hrs.
You tell me who the media is going to elect this time around!

The Republicans on have fear and hate left to rely on. I’m not buying. I’m voting Obama!!

levgram | Oct 5, 2008 7:17:04 PM AIN”T that the pot calling the kettle black????????

Republicans
aren’t you embarrassed of what your party has become?

When you can’t say anything good about yourself……

Sometimes the truth hurts!…It is time for Obama to feel the the pain instead of inflicting it on others!

Registered Republican – If “your” team wants to play that game, they should be prepared to defend their candidate against the dirt in his background, and he has plenty that can be dug up at a moment’s notice. It’s a shame, or as Ms. Palin might put it, “a doggone darn shame, dontcha know” that this election has to drag everyone down into the muck of the worst of politics. At a time when this country is in dire straights, and it will get worse, we have to contend with this idiocy? The republicans have no issues, no policy they can bring to the American people, so they resort to filth. As far as I’m concerned, the so-called controversies regarding Ayers or anyone else the republicans want to pin on Obama’s back, are not going to pay my mortgage, pay the medical bills to get my kids to a doctor when they’re sick (or, in my case, get my daughter to a trauma center of a hospital after a devastating car accident), fill up a shopping cart with food, or get me another job when I’ve lost the one I’ve had for 20 years. Ayers and company are distractions from the realities of our lives. McCain has become an old, sad, and confused man who has exhibited scarily erratic behavior of late and his running mate is a clever and charismatic woman who can memorize well and read a prepared speech but who has aspirations higher than her capability. McCain’s people are franticly throwing out the bait but I’m not biting.
Obama/Biden 2008

Republicians haven’t you already paid for McCain mistakes once, twice, three times? Remember, the U.S. Savings and Loan crisis headed by Charles Keating and his good friend, racist John McCain!!
What about the 21,000, mostly elderly investors who lost their life savings?
It’s never too late to repent!!!
Obama/Biden08

McCain was taken in by a big time swindler, Keating
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All the more reason not to trust his judgement, he was all taken by Bush.

Rev Wright’s “G D” sermon. How many of you took the time to really listen to it? None of you who continue to spew garbage about it. It was a speech on how our foreign policy….supporting Bin laden , Saddam, stirring the pot overseas for years. Acting like we were GOD.. ours was the only way. Yes our chickens came home to roost that day and they will come again until we stop the meddling.

How can this be a smear its true. Obama the con man has a lot of bad people as friends. This is the right time to talk about this. He is a radical left wing socialist that would destroy the United States. No Obama

Christ, does anybody have a shred of decency left in them anymore?!?! What is WRONG with you people!!!!???? What’s next? Gunfire? Take a serious chill pill. Dear Lord in Heaven. Stop IT !!!!

Sarah you chide Joe Biden for looking back at the last 8 years and yet you look back 40 years for all of your strategy, 40 years ago John McCain was a prisoner of war. Forty years ago Bill Ayers was a domestic terrorists. Just as John McCain is no longer the skirt chasing booze swilling middie, neither is Bill Ayers what he was, now an educator, writer and (gasp) community organizer. If the argument is that if you are with these people it will rub off (guilt by association) how come McCain was once opposed to torture though he spent over five years with torturers. He didn’t become a pill popper living with one either.

It was the Keating 4…yeah!! Keating 4
Besides, who can afford a 6 pack these days???

“Obama better not go into this retaliation mode against McCain if his only ammunition is about the Keating scandal.”
Don’t make a laugh… You know anything about McCain? Ha! The guy has closets full of truly troublesome connections (extremist right wing networks, despicable lobbyists) and actions (a large part of his senate votes were PAID FOR by the lobbyists he claims to be fighting against).

Ok Obama
Deploy the KEATING FIVE bomb.

If back history matters, McCain’s first divorce was due to his infidelity. His first wife was in a kind of illness and her height shortened 10″. He ran after a young, rich Cindy, who have the money to help him clam up the political ladders; and force his first wife to go through divorce quickly. What does this say about this man, his character???

Pubs can’t win on domestic policy.
They can’t win on international policy.
The can’t win with tax policy.
They can’t win on health care.
They can’t win on personality.
They can’t win with war stories.
They can’t win with winking.
They can’t win with “experience” (Thank you Palin!)
They can’t win with credibility. (Thank you McSame)
Their last gasp is trying to smear Obama. Same tactic they use every election. It the “we suck. but look at this accusation” strategy.
AMERICANS ARE FED UP WITH THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND THEIR OLD SMEAR TACTITCS. IT WILL BLOW UP IN THEIR FACE COME NOVEMBER.

Paul L | Oct 5, 2008 7:29:31 PM What party who controlled the House and Senate passed the BAILOUT?

Obama open that can of whoop @#@.

mj… I went to the site you posted re: Barack Obama and ACORN. I can see where you are coming from by the fact (posted right here for all to see and read) that you call that site “non-partisan”.
Do you understand what non-partisan means… it isn’t “agrees with me”. Fine if you agree with them, we all have a right to our opinion, but let’s try to have some objectivity when we search for truth.

McCain has nothing new to offer apart from continuation of the Bush policies

Rev. Wright spoke for himself, not for Obama!!! We are all guilty of association with IDIOTS!!!
But that don’t make you just like them!!!
Obama/Biden08

Who is CURRENTLY UNDER INVESTIGATION FOR ABUSE OF EXECUTIVE POWER?
Who is DUCKING SUBPOENAS? (It’s just THE LAW right?)
Who is hampering an investigation started by a bi-partisan committee well before she was nominated?
Who is asking for the results of the investigation to remain hidden from the public?
WHO IS OBVIOUSLY HIDING SOMETHING?
INNOCENT PEOPLE DON’T OBSTRUCT JUSTICE.
We know who the liar and the faker is in this campaign.

remember the Honey Bee | Oct 5, 2008 7:31:53 PM I am Barack Obama.

McCain sucks! Enough said!

remember the Honey Bee | Oct 5, 2008 7:31:53 PM Does saying something mean it is true?

Peel away the facade. And what do you see, a witch with lipstick. Palin practices witchcraft. The only thing genuine about this woman is witchcraft. Witchcraft wants to take over the country. Her husband already hates our country. Being a witch, she knows how to read the tarot cards and read McCain will die. And then her and her husband will take over the presidency and the country. Wake up people. It never said in the bible the gender of the antichrist

I AM AFRAID OF OBAMA! I took a test online to see if I were a Democrat or Republican. Results showed I was independent. I am 57 year old female and not too much into politics. I have not been able to sleep at night for months because of the nomination of Obama. I am not prejudice and have black friends. I am SCARED to death of Obama. I took one look at him and felt very uneasy. I feel people are being brain washed. I remember when Bill Clinton was on the campaign trail and thinking to myself “he is a womanizer”. I believe Bill did a good job but I also was right about him being a “womanizer”. I think Obama will ruin this country. He smokes 3 packs of cigarettes a day and I feel he is very hyper. (I just quit smoking 2 years ago) I have nothing against smokers…I m not a very religious person but I believe that he is the one that will head us toward the END. He is very inexperienced but that is not my entire concern. I believe that he is a radical and is very very dangerous to this country. I am not a blogger and it pains me to sit a my computer to post this so I sure hope people will hear me. I think it is terrible the way the media plays out against the candidates and tries to ruin them regardless of what party you belong to. Remember, the media killed Princess Diana! If this is what freedom of speech is all about (saying whatever you want about anyone you want) then you can keep it. There is no RESPECT anywhere as far as I am concerned. People protesting and tearing up property outside of conventions, etc. Is absolutely pathetic. We are all human beings and live together is supposedly a great country. We are supposed to be proud to be American’s. When we act like we have we are not setting an example to other countries. We need to join together and stop acting like idiots! PLEASE HEAR MY PLEA!

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McCAIN WILL DO FINE WITHOUT THAT BUNCH OF DUMMIES. ANY AMERICAN WHO WOULD VOTE FOR A MAN WITH NO REAL EXPERIENCE IN EFFECTUAL WORK, NO QUALIFICATIONS FOR BEING PRESIDENT, WENT TO A HATE CHURCH FOR 20 YEARS AND HAS “HUSSEIN” FOR A MIDDLE NAME……..THOSE PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT HIM DON’T THINK MUCH OF THEIR COUNTRY OR THEIR FUTURE. I WAS A STRONG DEMOCRAT AND AFTER THE DEGRADING WAY THE DEMOCRAT HIGH HOGS TREATED HILLARY……I MADE A CHANGE….I CHANGED TO McCAIN THAT DAY AND I AM VERY HAPPY WITH HIS VP ALSO. SHE IS REFRESHING, INTELLIGENT AND VERY QUALIFIED AND A “REAL” CHRISTIAN, NOT A PHONY. I GOT TIRED AND FED UP WITH THE DEMOCRAT CORRUPTION.

I love the smell of negative campaigning in the morning; it smells like….desperation.

sorry mccain and palin are starting to look like they are mentally ill.nothing but lies and overstated bs.
just what we need a senile old halfwit and a lieing twit that dont know anything—-or perhaps he is that desperate–what is next (racist remarks)
put mccain back inthe hanoi hilton where he learned his propaganda–you know the vile things that he spouted about the usa

How can it be a “smear” when it is a fact that Obama has associated with Ayres? And now there are other reports that the Obama campaign is whining about “racial” overtones. GIVE ME A BREAK. The race card thing is getting tiresome. The only person who has referred to race in this campaign is Obama himself.
And guess what. The Keating 5 is nothing compared to a bomb-throwing domestic terrorist. And I’ll bet the same liberals who are invoking the Keating 5 don’t think anything about Chris “Countrywide” Dodd and other other politicians who got sweetheart deals and who oversee the very industries that tanked…and guys like Obama pal Jim Johnson, who walked away with MILLIONS and MILLIONS from a failed agency.
Here’s something for you liberals to consider. If McCain attended a “coffee” at the home of a right-wing equivalent of Ayres & Dohrn (say, a pro-lifer who blew up an abortion clinic), OMG. That would be enough for me not to vote for him, too. But the reason that leftists aren’t concerned about Ayres is that they are on the same page with him.
God help this country if Obama is elected.

“They’d rather try to tear our campaign down than lift this country up,” Obama said.
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Obama said this with a straight face? As he goes around the country telling everyone how rotten America is and how rotten their lives are? That’s all Obama and his wife and their associates do is “tear down America”. We’re “a downright mean country”. We need Obama to be President because “America isn’t as good as it was”.
Cut me a break!
All of Obama’s closest associates hate America with a passion, and most of them hate it simply because of it’s “whiteness”.

FOR ALL THE GOOBERS OUT THERE TOUTING OBAMA —– electing Barak Ayers/Joe REZKO to any office above Street-sweeper would be a HUGE mistake of epic proportions. These are people from the main doctrine of Socialism that has brought the Country to this crisis. Both parties AND THE AMERICAN PUBLIC are at fault for this, however it is public record as to how the Democrat’s greed and policies created this mess.
As for the idea of ‘elect McCain and your children and grand-children will be sent to Iraq for “victory”……. Electing Obama will just mean that your children and grand-children will only need to step out your/their back door to fight terrorist for our Freedom. Barak wants to dine with terrorist — I do not.

victo
If it “pains” you to sit at your computer and assassinate someone’s character with no logical support, then don’t do it!

How many trips did John McCain make to Iraq when Saddam Hussian was in power? McCain supported Saddam who was a terrorist his whole life. I am sure there are a lot of clips showing McCain cozying up to Saddam.
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True. The Pubs brought Saddam to power to fight the Iranians. Just another great judgement call by John McCain.

McCain is not a war hero- FAVT. He disclosed the American strategy putting his comrades in danger. MCCAIN IS A PENSIONER SET IN HIS WAYS. WITH RESPECT, JUST STICK TO THAT OLD BOY. NOTHING MORE TO OFFER AT THE 12TH HOUR. RETIRE WITH GRACE

Obama dosn’t like smear but who does, he turns it into racial assults which it isn’t.
He’ll use race to his end no matter what.
Cast your vote to reflect what you want to see in the supream courts.. PERIOD

Vote for Obama is a vote for Socialist States of America. I guess our press is already completely controlled with pro-Obama bias, so once he becomes the president it will become official. After all it was Lenin who said “A lie told often enough becomes the truth”

lmao, most you guys are idiots.McCain will carry on bush’s Politics. All you McCain followers must want to see this Country go down the drain worse then it already is.McCain has no idea what to do with anything.He brought in Palin just to try and win the womens Votes!Lord help us if this 2 get in Office.

McCain is no PATROIT when he helped his close friend, Charles Keating swindle 21,000, mostly elderly investors out of their life savings.
Republicans Wake Up!!! Bush/Cheney have already shown you and the American people, the back side of their ***!!!
Republican Party blinded by racism and hate!!!
Obama/Biden08

Those professors sure are scary. Smart people are something we should fear.

Vote for McCain – World War II got us out of a depression..McCain will start World War III – Think of what it will do for the Economy! Also pick out your plots early…between War and his healthcare plans we will all die early

mccain is not smart enough to stay on the issues—-so like when hillary lost he said ,they want a woman -give them one (anyone)–palin is a real piece of work just like mccain—the crown prince of the hanoi hilton–and most people over 50 know what that is about.

Senator Obama, it’s not smears when
the facts are true.

The real reason Palin’s son went to Iraq was not Patriotism, but because he was facing a jail sentence for cutting brake lines on school buses, and the judge gave him a choice, war or jail. Hmm… pregnant daughter, jail-bird son…how could she manage this country, when she can’t even manage her own family!

Jamie, I realize few McCain people have been keeping up with the debates throughout the year, but this Old News about Ayers, is OLD NEWS.
Now, the Rick Davis Scandal, is Newer, as well as more facts about the Keating 5 Scandal.
Both deal with McCain, and both Deal with Morgages.
This is the same Old McCain. Out of Touch with America, and in Touch with Corrupt Realistate Agencies.
I bet a HUGE investigation in the Connections will occur. :)
Unless there is one already. :)
Bill Clintons connection with Rick Davis.
Long time friends with McCain.
Was this Economic Failure, due to inside Information, as well as Mis-Information to the Public?
Will Rick Davis be charged for Fraud, along with his partners in crime?
Will this be Known as the ‘Davis 5′?
Can McCain ever stop his Gambling addiction, with Middle Americas Money?
Only time will tell. :)

palin can take her imitation folksy bs back to alaska–however she may be impeached there–what a piece of work.

A vote for McCain is a vote for DEPRESSION and WAR!!!
OBAMA/BIDEN08

Interesting news from Ohio today. Obama’s supporters are registering people to vote early today from the streets. I guess paying a dollar to a homeless person goes a long way. I must admit this is a brilliant strategy, but at what cost to American democracy.

Jersy John, Did read any other blogs? I’m not voting for either but I will say there are blog trolls from both side. And guess what….nobody’s going to switch them over! You might consider destroying both party’s….they both got us into this mess. The Republican president and the Democratic congress.

Sarah Palin = George Bush with Lipstick

Ok Obama
Deploy the KEATING FIVE bomb.
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What bomb? This had been covered over and over by CNN and Fox in the special they did about McCain. McCain was never charged with anything. This is NOTHING new. However, why won’t Obama release his Columbia Transcript and why has his Senior essay gone missing? By the way, wasn’t Ayers teaching at Columbia when Obama was a student there? Didn’t Michelle Obama and Bernadine Dorhn (Ayers wife) work together at Sidley and Austin in 1989? I think all of these things and more will come out this month and more!

The real reason Palin’s son went to Iraq was not Patriotism, but because he was facing a jail sentence for cutting brake lines on school buses, and the judge gave him a choice, war or jail. Hmm… pregnant daughter, jail-bird son…how could she manage this country, when she can’t even manage her own family!
Posted by: Intelligent voter | Oct 5, 2008 7:53:44 PM
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I read this too, in an Alaskan Newspaper.
Alaskans are speaking out against Palin.
She inherited a surplus of cash for her state, and blew it all away. Now , they are asking her, ‘WHY?’, but she hasn’t answered.

mccain spouting about ayers—–tell us john about your association with the north vietnamese—you know the ones that you were helping spread propaganda against our troops and the usa—you still should be tried for treason.and you have the gall to show them on tv as your friends, you are one very sick individual.

Can not believe you Americans. Your politics are run on sound bites, fleeting images of baby kissing or baby bashing. Your country has lead the world in to the most dangerous period in global history and you would seriously consider putting ‘our’ future in the hands of a right-wing, warmongering, out of touch 70 year-old and his gun toting, air-head, trophy VP. May your god save us all…we are going to need it if the unthinkable happens. If the rest of the world had a vote guess who would win and ask yourselves why. (posted from New Zealand)

Can’t wait till all this is over on November whatever. I’m gonna go read the funny pages now………..

Ringer: Give ‘em hell! Oh ya…you forget something….the Democratic congress helped get us into this mess! You can’t forget the other half.

AND NOW, FROM THOSE WONDERFUL FOLKS WHO BROUGHT YOU “WATERGATE”, LET’S HEAR IT FOR THE MCCAIN/PALIN TEAM. LETS GIVE THEM A BIG ROUND OF APPLAUSE….DOES MCCAIN KNOW HOW TO TELL THE TRUTH?? CAN HE GIVE A SPEECH WITHOUT PERSONAL ATTACKS AND JUST STICK TO THE ISSUES AT HAND, LIKE THE ECONOMY?? THIS MAN IS A RAVING LUNATIC. THERE ARE SO MANY PROBLEMS THAT NEED ATTENTION RIGHT NOW AND MCBUSH HERE IS TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING WHICH OCCURRED MORE THAN 40 YEARS AGO. THIS MAN IS TOTALLY OUT OF TOUCH WITH REALITY… WOULD SOMEBODY PLEASE SHUT MCCAIN UP.

McStiff, is Out of touch, out of ideas, out of time, out of luck, and OUT OF IT.
Desperation is not pleasant to watch. But this time the American public is clued in to the same old tactics of the Republican right-wingers: smear, lie, twist the opponents words, take things out of context, smear some more, and most of all, lies, lies, and more lies. Sorry we don’t believe you any more. We were fooled for a while, but we woke up.

Yes I read all the blogs..I can even see some of the McCain’s trolls that post on Ireport are posting here…They have the same theme/Style so it is easy to find them. At Ireport one actually confessed that he works for McCain..I think he was tired of us cornering him on issues.

Does anyone take the Republicans serious anymore? They are pathetic.

We are ready to drop the Keating 5 and everything else on McGerotol head!!
There’s a new generation who has not heard about McGerotol’s shady past!!!
Obama/Biden08

O, that silly old McCain. Here he is in a speech from 2003 that helped to get us in an incredible mess:
“Saddam Hussein has developed stocks of germs and toxins in sufficient quantities to kill many millions of people in the most horrible of ways, and has placed weapons laden with these poisons on alert to fire at his neighbors within minutes. He develops nuclear weapons with which he would hold his neighbors and us hostage. Failure to end the danger posed by Saddam Hussein’s Iraq makes it more likely that the interaction we know to have occurred between members of al Qaeda and Saddam’s regime may increasingly take the form of active cooperation to target the United States and Europe with weapons whose use threatens civilization itself.”
Wrong, wrong, wrong.
It cost us thousands of lives, billions of dollars and our reputation in the world.
Thanks for your guidance, McCain!

Everybody that is not a ‘Far Right Extremist’, is now being called a ‘Leftist’.
Anybody notice even the Regual Republicans are calling the Far Right, out of Touch.
The Far Right seems to be getting smaller and smaller, as they realize, Palin is picking up McCains same, ‘Twitchy Eye Syndrome’.
I think there is a cream for that. :)

Rove Suggests Former POW McCain Committed Treason and Fathered Child With Black Prostitute.
In 2000, McCain operatives in SC accused Rove of spreading rumors against McCain, such as “suggestions that McCain had committed treason while a prisoner of war, and had fathered a child by a black prostitute,” according to the New Yorker.

ha ha ha ha someone wants to say that although mccain voted along with bush 95% of the time that he is different–wow are losing your mind–

Hey flav,
I have friends. I don’t compartamentalize them into white, black, yellow, brown or red. That, buddy, is prejudiced.

It’s about time the media report on Senator Obama’s ties with this terrorist, and with Rezco, Wright, and others. This is not a man we can trust with the presidency. If the media had done it’s job for the past 20 months, Senator Clinton would have been the nominee, rightfully.

mnccain did commit treason spreading propaganda against our troops and the usa—but when you father is in charge of the pacific fleet you can get away with anything.

You’re both breathing car fumes….they’re both to blame! As long as you support the two party system you will always get variations on a theme. They will manipulate it back and forth for years and years until the country is gone. Demand variety!

Hillary the right choice???? Are you out of your mind.
Hillary has her own dirt – remember whitewater…
Obama was eight..Did he ride his big wheels up to the capital and helped Ayers..PLEASE…
OBAMA BIDEN 08

Its about time that character finally came into play. Its funny when one side says its an isssue but the other side says its smear tatics. And if the shoe were on the other foot they would call for his head. sounds kinda like every other dictatorship in the world today. Lets see China, Korea, Cuba, besides the idiot Chavez. Wow and we want these people telling us how to live our lives. Last time I checked this was a ONE Nation Under GOD. Not Mohamad, Budda or some other form of higher power. I for one will not accept Socialism as the media and left wing want. I can think just fine on my own and if I make a mistake then its mine not the governments. So those that can not think for themselves go right ahead and have the government do all the thinking for you. After all it your choice but I will not convert when liberty starts slipping away. You will find me on the front lines fighting for what I believe in And that is a “Government of the PEOPLE for the PEOPLE by the PEOPLE.” NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. For those who do not know its was Lincolns Words.Which if I am not mistaken was a republican who granted the slaves freedom. NOT THE DEMOCRATS..after all most democrats opposed this piece of legislation oh yeah resulting in the Civil War.
So go ahead and let character be a non issuse, when all comes to pass you have no on to blame but yourself.

They’re not “smears” if they’re true. And they are true. Senator Obama has been “smearing” Senator McCain with President Bush for months. Ayers, Rezco, and Wright are fair game. If Senator Obama wants to talk about the future, fine. But he’s proven over and over again that he has placed his hopes on winning by tying Senator McCain to the past (President Bush.) Senator Obama has made his own bed.

What I object to is seeing that ABC portrays this article under the title in such a way as to make it appear that their is a ‘valid militant link’ that Obama is reacting to. So media, how about being journalists instead of trying to make the news up? Is Ayers a ‘militant link’ for Obama..? I hardly think so. The recent article basically says there is no ‘there’ there… and at the time when the country considere Ayers a militant and radical etc. Obama was 8 years old.
Seriously the media need to be journalists and stop being sensationalists!!!

30 more days of McPunk, I do not know if I can take it!

I once saw Obama J-walk. McCain once went through a yellow light without yelding.

mccain wants to use smear tactics—well now –we will open his closet for him –and it is a very deep closet ,filled with all kinds of foul things that he was involved in—-and some out here know of it first hand.
mccain is for mccain and as far as he is concerned we all can go to hell.

She really is a pig in lipstick. Such an unpleasant person. She’s a good politician, but on a personal level she just seems like a pig.

McCain – Palin 08,
It’s just as good as a bridge to nowhere… Wink, wink, nudge, nudge…

Bring it all,
Rhasid Khalidi a terrorist who had funded the suicide bombers to blow up themselves in Israel has ties to barrack Obama! Actually Barrack Obama had worked for Rhasid Khalidi!
BRING IT IN, AMERICAN JEWS MUST KNOW OBAMA TIES WITH RHASID KHALIDI!@\
Bill Ayers is a pretty much knowns story!

Keating 5 is old news. Senator McCain was found to have done nothing wrong (unlike some of the other four – all democrats, by the way.) I’ll put Senator McCain’s record on trust and judgment against Senator Obama’s EVERY day of the week.

I attended the rally in Asheville today, and it was fantastic.
It seems to me that John McCain is running out of ideas on how to gain support, how to inspire people, how to fairly campaign, and so, with nothing left to run on, he’s turning to smearing Obama. He realizes there’s a good chance he may lose, and people’s support of Palin is falling by the wayside, so this is his last resort.
Obama’s ties to William Ayers are nothing new. They’ve been talking about it since Obama ran for senator, and now for President. It just shows how desparate McCain is right now.

Palin – McCain 08,
It’s just as good as a bridge to nowhere… Wink, wink, nudge, nudge…

The Democratic Party is a big tent party. It attracts people with diverse backgrounds and viewpoints. The Republican party is a small tent, or pup tent party. There is barely enough room in the Republican tent for an evangelical preacher and an eleven year old boy.

Obama was eight years old. True. But Ayers has not regretted what he did. In fact, he wishes they had done more (even today.) Senator Obama knows this. And yet, he will not disassociate himself from this domestic terrorist. That shows his extreme lack of judgment.

tony, you say “I for one will not accept Socialism as the media and left wing want. I can think just fine on my own and if I make a mistake then its mine not the governments.”
Apparently no-one has filled you in on the biggest socialist policy of our time: your friend George Bush’s $700 billion bail-out plan. That’s right, a gift from the taxpayers (us), to the banks. Sounds pretty socialist to me.

McCain is runing a very bad campain, and we would never know if some Obamabots infiltrated his campain, But McCain is an American and i trust McCain, before I
trust Obama. Obama have to many terrorist freinds and relatives, like his terrorist cousin Odinga in Kenya.And a lot of his supporters are not very nice people.

DON’T BE SCARED OF OBAMA!!! BE PETRIFIED, TERRIFIED, FRIGHTENED AND DOWN RIGHT UPSET THAT PEOPLE JUST LIKE YOU ARE READY TO VOTE FOR A SNAKE NAMED MCCAIN/PALIN!!!
PEOPLE LIKE YOU HAVE VOTED FOR REPUBLICANS FOR THE LAST EIGHT YEARS AND LOOK WHERE WE ARE!!!
REPUBLICANS WOULD RATHER THROW THIS COUNTRY INTO A DEPRESSION RATHER THAN SAVE IT, BECAUSE A MAN WHO IS BOTH WHITE AND BLACK IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT!!!
WHITE MEN OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS/HAVE BANKRUPT THIS COUNTRY!!!
IT’S TIME FOR EVERYONE TO ACCEPT THE REAL CHANGE!!!
OBAMA/BIDEN08

Obama befriended an unrepentant domestic terrorist, William Ayers, who bragged about his bombings of the NY Police Headquarters and the Pentagon in his 2001 book. Obama chaired Ayer’s education program.
Obama’s good friend, Tony Rezco, helped Obama buy his house. Rezco is now a convicted felon.
Obama was with Rev. Wright for 16-years and Wright gave the lifetime achievement award to Louis Farrakhan who said: “Judaism is a gutter religion,” “Hitler was a good man,” and “White people are not yet human, they haven’t evolved yet.” Give me a break people! You want to elect this guy president????

Two years ago, Hatem El-Hady was the chairman of the Toledo, Ohio-based Islamic charity, Kindhearts, which was closed by the US government in February 2006 for terrorist fundraising and all its assets frozen. Today, El-Hady has redirected his fundraising efforts for his newest cause — Barack Obama for President.
El-Hady has his own dedicated page on Barack Obama’s official website, (by the way it had been removed but we do have a record)chronicling his fundraising on behalf of the Democratic Party presidential candidate (his Obama profile established on February 19, 2008 — two years to the day after Kindhearts was raided by the feds). Not only that, but he has none other than Barack Obama’s wife, Michelle Obama, listed as one of his friends,

golfgirlusa worries: “We know too little about Obama.”
People set against voting for Obama will ALWAYS AND FOREVER say that they “don’t know enough about him.” But that doesn’t seem to bother them when it comes to McCain or Palin. How much do you really know about them? Obama’s been under the spotlight constantly for the past 18 months, while Palin was a complete cypher until just a few short weeks ago! Or how much do you know about McCain’s fidelity? How many women was McCain unfaithful with while married? How well do Americans know about his outrageous temper tantrums and how he finds it impossible to compromise in negotiations? How close were the “associations” of Palin to her husband Todd while he was a member of the seccessionist Alaska Independence Party, whose founder declared hatred for the US?
Now, to be frank, I think a lot of these issues are completely or nearly irrelevant; of them all, the only one I think is really serious is the one about McCain’s judgment and temper. I don’t care much about an individual’s sex life, and I doubt that the Palin’s association with the AIP is a sign that they’re “anti-American” any more than Obama’s having met with Ayers is a sign that he is some kind of flaming radical. Why? because the rest of his record shouts out the opposite.
For the vast majority of Americans, their knowledge of any of the candidates is no more than anecdotal. But there’s a subtext to this election that is racial, whether people admit it or not. Obama doesn’t “look like the rest of us (whites)” or his middle name “Hussein” is somehow scary, or . . . and on and on. None of those things, though, are relevant to me in the context of the overall person. I think I have adequate knowledge from all the media coverage this past 18 months to judge the intelligence and characters of both Obama and McCain as candidates, and I’m satisfied that Obama is the better choice for our nation today.
YMMV.

like mccain says– we cannot pull oput of iraq after all THE CHINESE NEED THE OIL—QUITE SIMPLE ISNT IT

McCain has no honor. It is a shame that he has thrown everything away and will end his career in disgrace.

keating 5
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McCain’s shift to blatant lying is a good sign that he is quite desperate.
As an Obama supporter what would bother me would be McCain addressing issues and presenting himself as presidential material.

The question is whether this is the end of it, a mere test-balloon, a back-fired attempt by Palin at testing limits of campaign decency, or just the beginning of it.
And the answer to that will speak volumes about the Republican nominee himself, for it is clear that the style of campaigning which a candidate condones is instructive about how he might govern.

Bring it on neo-cons! When it comes to smear’in and fear’in, the Republicans are in a class all their own!
We can also have a good long talk about the “Keating Five”, you betcha!
How about those darn endorsements for McCain by those religious right nut-cases, gotcha!
Gosh-golly, I almost forgot good ole Ms. Palin, she’s got a few things in her luggage like Trooper-Gate, fighting polar bear protection, enquiring about banning those darn offensive library books, that silly bridge and road to nowhere.
Viva Obama-Biden

McCain for President?
Thanks but no thanks!

Those allegations against Obama are so exaggerated. If any of this happened to be true, i’d buy that bridge to nowhere.

So, Liberati, you’re not bothered by McCain’s “good friend” G. Gordon Liddy, a convicted felon, or his close association with Keating?
Obama’s last connection to Ayers was at least 10 years ago. Liddy is a 2007 contributor to McCain’s campaign, and McCain called endorsed Liddy’s Fascist views when McCain CHOSE to appear on Liddy’s broadcast.
Every American should question why John McCain would endorse this lawbreaker who participated in the destruction of the Nixon presidency.

Note to NOBAMA4ME…The difference is McCain himself said we would be in Iraq for 100 years and he has agreed with Bush 95% of the time…so those are not smears…Yes, Obama ’08!!!

McCain was born in Colon, Panama. There is a real legal question whether he is constitutionally eligible to be President. (Although, this issue was ignored with FDR, who was born in Canada of US parents.)

Aviva, TAviel Aviv:
Pass me one of those PBR’s, poser.

Obama’s association with Ayers is quite a bit more than ‘they happened to have served on a board at the same time’.
Ayers was co-founder of CAC. He received a $49 million grant and Obama was the Chairman.
Obama would not have been put in charge of spending $49 million without Ayers direct involvement.
But Obama wants to make believe that this is ‘a guy I know’.
How many ‘guys you know’ put you in charge of spending $49 million?

John McCain Profile:
John McCain hobby? Political stunts!
John McCain dream? Be the president no matter what!
John McCain political ideology? Opportunist!
John McCain cheerleader? Sarah Palin.!
John McCain favorite place? Florida, many elderly residents and you can manipulate the voting results!
John McCain favorite Cable news? FOX spin masters!
John McCain favorite movie? Pinocchio!
John McCain favorite song? Bomb.Bomb..Bomb Iran!
John McCain favorite word.? President Reagan ,my friends!.
John McCain friends? Wealthy people like him.!
John McCain ability ?Regular flip flop.!
John McCain number of houses? Seven!
John McCain Number of cars?Eleven!
John McCain definition of middle class?Under five million dollars assets!
John McCain family business value? Over hundred millions!
BAIL OUT FULL OF EARMARKS AND PORK CHOPS>>>LIAR!!!!!!LIAR
Sleazy McCain you done it again!

The campaign should be conducted on the issues. Personal attacks should not drive the news coverage. It would help a lot if the same number of words were devoted to explaining complex issues instead of repeating personal attacks and responses to them. It is time that americans and their representatives returned to the days of civil discourse. Demonizing the opponent is an insult to the intelligence of the american voters.

Did you hear we’re in a recession? We’re having a party? Who’s bringing the cake? Obama? McCain has a big bunch of ballons? Congress has a 700 billion dollar gift? The democtrates and the republicans! Bless their souls!

zeke warns: “I hope you’ll all still be yukking it up when these associates are running the country.”
Um, which “associates” are we now talking about? Obama’s or McCain/Palin’s? What if McCain is elected, Phil Graham takes over Treasury and pushes us into another Great Depression, then Palin takes over upon McCain’s sudden demise, and under pressure of the Depression decides to allow Alaska to secede (with Todd as Diktator for Life) as an independent nation, which then sells its oil to Russia. Ooh, scary! Well, that scenario is at least as “possible” as any involving “associates” of Obama “running the country” in any meaningful way. Swiftboating smears, no more, no less.

The Republican are the only terrorists here. This is the continuation of the Bush administration’s politics of fear. Keep people afraid and you can make them do anything. Tell me the difference between Bush and Bin Laden. Both religious fundamentalists, both want to control the mid-east, and both brainwash their followers and send other people to kill and die. I guess the only difference, is more people have died at the hands of Bush.

Mary: Why talk the issues? Isn’t more fun to talk Terrorists and gotcha’s and cute little Katie Courick?

Its going to be fun for whoever wins, 50% of the population cant stand them and will work to sabatage their administration. Sounds like fun…

Clinton’s pit-bulls tried to bring up this trash in the Democratic Primary (slime-ball Lanny Davis in particular). It backfired in a terrible way for Ms. Clinton!
If you are going to go after Obama-Biden, you gotta go with the issues and paint a picture of where you see America tomorrow, you ain’t gonna win peering through the rear view mirror on a foggy day!
Personally I believe that McCain could have won this election with a centrist running mate with solid economic credentials – he went with the right-wing Republican comfort zone – evangelical nut-case, down-home, folksy crap! It flies in the face of America’s changing demographics and shows how totally out of touch he really is.
Now I have one prediction that I feel fairly confident about:
Obama-Biden + L A N D S L I D E = WHITE HOUSE

Independent John”
“Those allegations against Obama are so exaggerated.”
———————————–
Actually many of them are outright lies.

McGambler is rolling the dice again. But the odds this around for him is 1 in a 100.

The economy needs to be on the top of both candidates’ narratives going into the next four weeks. Neither of them can afford to get side-tracked by personal attacks, smears, or smoke-screens. There is too much at stake for that adolescent nonsense. The situation we find ourselves in as a nation, as a world, calls for grown up leadership, intelligent, measured, diplomatic, tough, creative and innovative. I want to hear how both candidates stack up in these contexts, not who is Black or White or rich or poor or hot or whatever. I care about none of that. How will each of these candidates skillfully bring America from the brink of certain economic collapse, for instance? And how will his measures and initiatives restore the value of my 401K which has basically been reduced to nothing as a result of all these missteps? Cause everything else is hot air which I don’t have time for.
By Marion, Esq.

Barack Obama was much older than 8 when William Ayers was photographed stepping on a US flag in 2001, for an article in which Ayers said he had “No Regrets” for his violent actions in the Weather Underground.
In fact, at the same time Ayers was in a Chicago alley desecrating the flag, he and Barack Obama were serving on the board of the Woods Fund together:

i sure would like to hear some of mccains racist comments behind closed doors —–wow

Sisterdearest: Got some bad news sweety…you’re going to have a depression no matter who you vote for and both party’s did it.

some of you have the guts to condem rev wright—YOU NEED TO CHECK OUT PALINS EXORCIST

MCCAIN CAMPAIGN IS DEATH SO LETS SEE IF THIS RISK HE TOOK WILL REVIVE IT, BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT THEY CANT EVEN MANAGE THEIR CAMPAIGN WELL, THEY JUMP FROM CHOOSING PALIN TO SUSPENDING CAMPAIGN ALL THESE DID NOT CHANGE NOTHING……

A day in the Life of P U M A
Sunday October 5.
“I live in Pennsylvania and will be swinging the state with a vote for McCain/Palin. I can not vote for Obama in good conscience, as it would set a dangerous precedent for the Democratic Party (not that it hasn’t already). Therefore, I’m “going nuclear” at the top of the ticket.”
“I am a 48 year old Hispanic… formerly a Democrat for 30 years. Formerly because I abandoned the party for its sexist treatment of Hillary and for their persistence is shoving Obama down my thought.
Last week I received a letter from the Democratic Party asking for a contribution. I put all of their literature in their self addressed envelope and wrote with a red magic marker to take me off their list.”
“Nevada, home of caucus cheating, voter intimidation, violent Obots, and KNPR radio, whose host pigeonholed me and days after my interview compared my sources about Obama (such as “We Will Not Be Silenced” documentary, made by DEMOCRATS, to using Wikipedia as a source).
I’m voting McPalin 2008″
P U M A
Obama’s worse nightmare will become a reality in November. And Barry…we told the polls we were voting for you. (wink)

MCCAIN IN REALITY HAS A VERY BAD GAMBLING HABIT—HE NEEDS PALINS EXORCIST

Hey does anyone know if the millions of PUMAS paid off Hillary’s debt yet? How about the mass of PUMAS in Denver…what were there like 4. Real woman vote on issues not body parts.

Let McCain/Palin go negative. THAT IS ALL THEY HAVE LEFT TO CLING TO ;-)!! McCain is tottering around and looking angry and beady-eyed and Palin is floating in the clouds signing autographs at every stop. I seriously doubt it will help them at all because if you can not CONNECT to the voters on SUBSTANCE and NEEDS, you will still have the chance of losing. Especially when Americans are facing so many financial troubles. I want someone who will make MY LIFE BETTER and I have that right to be selfish like that because I am an American.

It all started in March 1987. Charles H Keating Jr., the flamboyant developer and anti-porn crusader, needed help. The government was poised to seize Lincoln Savings and Loan, a freewheeling subsidiary of Keating’s American Continental Corp.
As federal auditors examined Lincoln, Keating was not content to wait and hope for the best. He had spread a lot of money around Washington, and it was time to call in his chits.
One of his first stops was Sen. Dennis DeConcini, D-Ariz.
The state’s senior senator was one of Keating’s most loyal friends in Congress, and for good reason. Keating had given thousands of dollars to DeConcini’s campaigns. At one point, DeConcini even pushed Keating for ambassador to the Bahamas, where Keating owned a luxurious vacation home.
Now Keating had a job for DeConcini. He wanted him to organize a meeting with regulators to deliver a message: Get off Lincoln’s back. Eventually, DeConcini would set up a meeting with five senators and the regulators. One of them was McCain.
McCain already knew Keating well. His ties to the home builder dated to 1981, when the two men met at a Navy League dinner where McCain spoke.
After the speech, Keating walked up to McCain and told him that he, too, was a Navy flier and that he greatly respected McCain’s war record. He met McCain’s wife and family. The two men became friends.
Charlie Keating always took care of his friends, especially those in politics. McCain was no exception.
In 1982, during McCain’s first run for the House, Keating held a fund-raiser for him, collecting more than $11,000 from 40 employees of American Continental Corp. McCain would spend more than $550,000 to win the primary and the general election.
In 1983, as McCain contemplated his House re-election, Keating hosted a $1,000-a-plate dinner for him, even though McCain had no serious competition. When McCain pushed for the Senate in 1986, Keating was there with more than $50,000.
By 1987, McCain had received about $112,000 in political contributions from Keating and his associates.
McCain also had carried a little water for Keating in Washington. While in the House, McCain, along with a majority of representatives, co-sponsored a resolution to delay new regulations designed to curb risky investments by thrifts such as Lincoln.
Reluctant participant
Despite his history with Keating, McCain was hesitant about intervening. At that point, he had been in the Senate only three months. DeConcini wanted McCain to fly to San Francisco with him and talk to the regulators. McCain refused.
Keating would not be dissuaded.
On March 24 at 9:30 a.m., Keating went to DeConcini’s office and asked him if the meeting with the regulators was on. DeConcini told Keating that McCain was nervous.
“McCain’s a wimp,” Keating replied, according to the book Trust Me, by Michael Binstein and Charles Bowden. “We’ll go talk to him.”
Keating had other business on Capitol Hill and did not reach McCain’s office until 1:30. A DeConcini staffer already had told McCain about the “wimp” insult.
When he arrived, Keating presented McCain with a laundry list of demands for the regulators.
McCain told Keating that he would attend the meeting and find out whether Keating was getting treated fairly but that was all.
The first meeting, on April 2, 1987, in DeConcini’s office, included Ed Gray, chairman of the Federal Home Loan Bank Board, as well as four senators: DeConcini, McCain, Alan Cranston, D-Calif., and John Glenn, D-Ohio.
(Years later, McCain recalled that DeConcini started the meeting with a reference to “our friend at Lincoln.” McCain characterized it as “an unfortunate choice of words, which Gray would remember and repeat publicly many times.”)
For Keating, the meeting was a bust. Gray told the senators that as head of the loan board, he worried about the big picture. He didn’t have any specific information about Lincoln. Bank regulators in San Francisco would be versed in that, not him. Gray offered to set up a meeting between the senators and the San Francisco regulators.
The second meeting was April 9. The same four senators attended, along with Sen. Don Riegle, D-Mich. Also at the meeting were William Black, then deputy director of the Federal Savings and Loan Insurance Corp., James Cirona, president of the Federal Home Loan Bank of San Francisco, and Michael Patriarca, director of agency functions at the FSLIC.
In an interview with The Republic, Black said the meeting was a show of force by Keating, who wanted the senators to pressure the regulators into dropping their case against Lincoln. The thrift was in trouble for violating “direct investment” rules, which prohibited S&Ls from taking large ownership positions in various ventures.
“The Senate is a really small club, like the cliche goes,” Black said. “And you really did have one-twentieth of the Senate in one room, called by one guy, who was the biggest crook in the S&L debacle.”
Black said the senators could have accomplished their goal “if they had simply had us show up and see this incredible room and said, ‘Hi. Charles Keating asked us to meet with you. ‘Bye.’”
McCain previously had refused DeConcini’s request to meet with the Lincoln auditors themselves. In Worth the Fighting For, McCain wrote that he remained “a little troubled” at the prospect, “but since the chairman of the bank board didn’t seem to have a problem with the idea, maybe a discussion with the regulators wouldn’t be as problematic as I had earlier thought.”
McCain concedes that he failed to sense that Gray and the thrift examiners felt threatened by the senators’ meddling.
‘Always Hamlet’
The five senators, including McCain, seemed like a united front to Black.

I MUCH RATHER WRIGHT LIVING NEXT DOOR TO ME THAN TRHAN MCCAIN THE KING OF PROPAGANDA.

I do think Obama will win this election. Welcome to Socialist States of America. I guess many of you then don’t have to work for a living. You can just take it from the ‘rich’. Except once you remove the incentive to succeed, there will be nobody to take from.
“Communism is like prohibition, it’s a good idea but it won’t work.” Will Rogers (1879 – 1935),

I’m an Army veteran, and I’m voting for Obama. McCain and Palin have absolutely nothing positive to offer, and they are an embarrasment to our country…GO OBAMA/BIDEN!!

Mr. Obama is ahead in all the polls that I look at. But he’s still a serial liar. He will be a weak, indecisive and hypocritical leader.

“In fact, at the same time Ayers was in a Chicago alley desecrating the flag, he and Barack Obama were serving on the board of the Woods Fund together:”
As were other RESPECTABLE members of the community, who chose to contribute to the Woods fund, a respectable charity established in 1941.
Are you calling all of the board members terrorist sympathizers?

mtr2311,
You are right in that McCain’s pattern of associations (and abuse of women) should be clear. He dumped his wife and kids for a younger woman who was rich with no morals (stealing drugs from charities), then picked a veep who lies whenever a mic is in front of her mouth. McCain’s pattern is obvious.

I’m still trying to figure out how they fit 28,000 people in a high school at Obama’s event today? Sounds like fuzzy math….

“The truth is that Ayres hosted Obamas first fundraiser for the Illinois Senate at his house”
Yes that is true.
Its also true that John McCain’s close personal friend Charles Keating raised in campaign donations for him.

this time the seeds that mccain is sowing will come back to him as weeds—-and the lieing dipsy twit will be impeached as governer…

“I do think Obama will win this election. Welcome to Socialist States of America.”
More fox news rhetoric, unsubstantiated by any real facts.

A Day in the life of P U M A
“New to GA via Chicago and San Diego, I did cast my vote in IL for Obama to be elected to the US Senate.
He will not get my vote for the Presidency”
“So, the roll call – IL voting for McCain/Palin – my vote is not for sale and never will be. I will also not be voting for any down-ticket dems due to their shameful, pandering, lying, etc behavior in pushing this unqualified, lying sleazebag on us.
In answer to someone’s question about BO – all the dems here in IL are giving away their rightful legislative bragging rights and assigning all of it to him. I don’t understand it but am guessing they’ve been heavily threatened.”
“Then we can all take back the Democratic Party from the likes of Obama, Howard Dean, Harry Reid, and Nacy Pelosi once and for all!!
Our Revolution to take back the Democratic Party begins with this election!
We must teach the Democratic Elites and Obama a lesson they will never forget.
Back to Chicago Obama must go!”
P U M A
You told us to get over it. We didn’t.

Sounds to me just like Sarah Palin in the recent debate.
cinkid56 wrote:
These questions are coming up again because Barrack has not answered them. Like every question put to him, he uses rhetoric to dance around a straight answer, then says that since he answered, the question is now off limits. “Next question, please.”

mccain smear tactics will give obama another point or two ahead—we are sick of the vile old treasones geser–and the dipsy twit is just that.

It is not a smear if it is true. We need to know the real truth before it is too late to vote for McCain and have someone that should be on the terrorist watch list elected to run our Executive Branch. What does the FBI have to say about the background check they did? I don’t suppose we will ever know for sure if Obama gets elected.

LOL!
Yes the PUMA’s power will truly be felt in IL!
When are you guys going to realize even the freepers are laughing at you.

LIES, Trashing, smearing, and negative ads is a one way street when it comes to great and wonder savior of the world BO the great…. he can lie and swear to it with no comments at all from ABC, CBS and NBC, they will just IGNORE it ….. they have decided BO is their man….. and they WILL help him trash McCain and Palin…. the ill informed just eat it up……..

Piece of cake.
“I am from the ever-important swing state of Pennsylvania. I will be voting for John McCain. Not because I agree with his political views, but because
–I will not allow the Democratic Party to fraudulently shove their candidate down my throat simply because “I’m a Democrat”
–Obama would destroy the Democratic brand for decades to come
–I will NEVER, NEVER, NEVER forgive Obama, his political garbage bag of surrogates and the DNC for what they did to Hillary and Bill Clinton. NEVER.
–I have set my goal as seeing Hillary in the White House by 2012 and if Obama is elected, that will never happen.
–If we truly care about the Democratic party, we will not endorse their ‘win at any cost’ strategies being employed
–Obama, in my view is dangerous to both party and country.
– Bill Clinton’s tepid support of Obama, and continued laudatory comments about McCain could not be sending a clearer message. And if there is ANYONE I trust, it’s Bill Clinton — He has earned that from me.
I used to be conflicted about voting for McCain. Now I will proudly do so because I know I am doing it for the right reasons. As a swing-state voter, my only option is to vote for McCain. His centrist views will still be a refreshing change from the neo-con disaster of the Cheney administration.
I remain committed to the PUMA cause – NOBAMA, NO WAY , NO HOW, NEVER.”
P U M A
Go ahead underestimate us.

Recently near every rock in Alaska was turned in an effort to dig out anything tarnishing on a VP candidate and was concidered acceptable as part of the vetting process. Now that a candidate for PRESIDENT’S relationship (a relationship HIS campain has described as friendly) with a non-repentant domestic terrorist is called into question, we are calling it smearing. Seems like a double standard to me. Why are we just hearing about this at the national level? Go ask the media. Maybe Charlie or Katie could look into it for us.

So it looks like the Dems will win the election. We will then give our foes a timeline as to when we will give them victory. We will also embrace change. I am not sure yet what that means to me. I own my home. I have a job. I have health care. I have a wife and two kids. If change means that I am taxed more then change sucks. If change means I will not have a job or a house or a wife or my kids well that sucks too.
What Change is Obama talking about for me? Why do I need change?

McCain, why do you hide your involvement in the savings and loan Keating 5 scandal? You are more interested in lying about others than focusing on your own flaws. Please share with us why we should trust you.

if mccain wants to play dirty we will dig up some of his propaganda broadcasts from the hanoi hilton—then you all will know what he is.

If I said that Obama had ties to Noam Chomsky, then you could say that I might be smearing him – though perhaps Obama admires Chomsky? But, even then, Noam Chomsky girlfriend didn’t die when making a bomb; but as we know from history, this happened to Ayers – his girlfriend was apart of the Chicago Underground, and she died trying to make an explosive device intended for some political target. It’s also historical fact that Ayers hosted the first coffee when Obama lauched his political career in Chicago…they know each other for many years now.

John McCain became a U.S. Representative in part to the support and donations of Charles Keating, a shady lawyer who ran the Lincoln Savings and Loan. While McCain served in the House of Representatives, Keating flew McCain around the country on his private company jet. McCain took his family on Keating’s jet to vacation at Keating’s private Bahama resort on Keating’s private island. 9 times. McCain also failed to report the gifts on his income tax returns.

“I looked at the “We will not be silenced” videos – eek! I am considering what this nation will look like if these people are in charge. I really do not want to live in a “Liberation Theology” nation.”
Oh please; you watch a campaign rally and take a quote meant to rally support to a cause and conclude that this will somehow devolve into a “Liberation theology” nation?
That is beyond ridiculous; by your logic many football coaches are also wild-eyed liberals bent on destroying our nation.

Obama is winning PA by a large margin, PUMA people.
Your effect is zero.
You had your fun at the convention, getting media attention for basically a tiny group.
But you’ve been exposed as a joke and fraud.

McCain has ran out of option, old man please respect yourself and your party, I know you’re not that smart, see your choice for Vice President, she’s as dum as you’re even worst. McCain your time is over.

“OBAMA IS A KENYAN MUSLIM THUG DRESSED AS A TROJAN HORSE..SENT BY THOSE WHO HATE US TO DESTROY AMERICA FROM WITHIN.”
Then the choice is clear for you- build your bunker and vote GOP.
The rest of us clear-headed folk will vote for the candidate that has a plan and a vision of hope for the future.

P U M A
Google: The Confluence
“I’m with you Puma! from NC, and my voting means that no one else can take my vote, and that we will have a democratic senator again from this state.”
“Washington State- With you all the way P U M A!!! As time goes by, I and my family have decided it has to be JMAC. We are proud to call ourselves PUMA’S…”
“Another black woman who will not vote for Obama, here. I’m in Nevada. ”
“NObama here in Michigan. I’m a proud PUMA, will probably vote McCain/Palin”
“I’m from Indiana, voting by absentee ballot, for Sen McCain and Gov Palin! When Hillary was finally forced out of the primary and Obama ascended in his coronation, I solemnly stood up, dusted my shoulders off, and walked over to the McCain side (though only on the edge, I’m a Dem gone Independent who’s voting Repub this year”
P U M A
(whistling)

Obama said he was sticking with the issues? Really? Like the “issue” of McCain’s “erratic behavior”? LIke the issue of how many houses McCain owns? Get Real– neither side is pure here. Obama has been trashing McCain, like he trashed Hillary before, all along, while making a big show of being above such typical political efforts. Same old politics, NOT post-partisanship. I prefer McCain’s openness in attacking his opponent’s judgment. He doesn’t pretend to do one thing while doing another. Maybe Obama wants to change the subject from how he gets his millions of dollars of contributions?

If Obama wins and you hate him, then just stop working and apply for welfare. If McCain wins and you hate him then just get a high paying job in the millitary industrial complex. There now everyone can win!

Democrats No More Vote for McCain> I could care less because Obama will win PA by 8-10%.

Paul,
You are only just hearing about it now because you are uninformed. The rest of the world has already researched that non-issue and concluded there was nothing there but a smear from the right.
Obama/Biden 08!

It was Obama’s buddies Franklin Rains and Jim Johnson”
Buddies? One guy took a phone call and the other helped with the VP search team.
They are hardly part of the campaign inner circle.
However,
Rick Davis’s firm(mccain’s campaign manager and longtime advisor) was paid $240,000 this year alone by Fannie Mae for access to McCain.
That was after paying him millions before that.
Or Charlie Black who also made millions lobbying for Fannie Mae.

Palin is dumber than a bucket of rocks.

Democrats No More By the way Obama is asking us to help out in Ohio where the outcome is still in doubt. I’ll be in Columbus next week because PA is just about over. My guess is that McCain will pull out of PA in a week or 2 just as he did in Michigan.

Ryan C: Got some bad news…you won’t see the quiet second amendment people until the end. They’re taking it all in, quietly. Don’t jump up on the stage yet. There’s a hell of a lot of ‘em in PA. We lose with either candidate. Overseas war waste with McCain. Second amendment with Obama. There’s a reason the founding fathers talked of both. Most people here have never even read what they said and why the documents exist.

Ben: “It is not a smear if it is true.”
What is “it”?
The fact that Obama and other respectable citizens sat on a board of a respectable charity established in 1941?
Ben: “We need to know the real truth before it is too late to vote for McCain and have someone that should be on the terrorist watch list elected to run our Executive Branch.”
“Should be on the terrorist watch list”?
OKAY, then go ahead and demand that all of the other board members of this charity be placed on that same list.
And while you’re at it, everyone that ever came in contact with Ted Kacynski while he was a faculty member should also be on that same list.

There was a time when I liked McCain, no longer!
To many of these comments are written by people who have nothing better to do with their lives except tear down others……shame on all of you!
The internet is a very useful tool to learn about the outside world. It’s too bad most of these same people don’t have the sense to use it!
Sad…………
My vote is for the honest guy…..Obama

The last bastion of a scoundrel is to divert attention away from his own inadequacies and point an accusing finger filled with distortion, exaggerations and lies! McCain has put the character issue to rest. The “respectable” Senator from Arizona is truly… a scoundrel!

Yea, so Obama was 8 yrs old when Ayers was a terrorist (who by the way was cleared of all charges). DID I MENTION OBAMA WAS 8 YRS OLD???? An 8 yr old terrorist…doesn’t make much sense to me.
Sorry McCain/Palin (or Palin/McCain from the way some ex HRC supporters are making it sound), your fear mongering, filthy smears are not going to win me over. As a matter of fact, I am so insulted that your camp thinks I am dumb enough to fall for this with out actually reading up about it, that this has actually solidified my vote for Obama.

The Ayers “connection” is a dead horse that has already been beaten ad nauseum by Fox News. Doesn’t McCain have anything else??? Why can’t he run on his integrity? Oh, that’s right, he’s a Republican.

“If McCain can shifting the focus away from the economy he will facilitate the emergence of irrational fears of blacks and he will be able to turn the tide in his favor.
This is easy to do by presenting Obama as dangerous and foreign to American values. By portraying Obama as a terrorist, McCain will very quickly get the response he needs to be on top before election day.”
Exactly – and we will have yet another ineffective idiot in office, a reactionary who will ratchet up the fear in order to pander to the very idiots he has helped create by cutting education.
We can’t afford to let these un-educated hicks and their irrational fears rule us all; we must encourage the young free-thinkers and minorities to get out the vote.
Obama will hopefully follow through on his promise to fund education; ignorance is a blight on this nation that must be stopped.

The democratic party and media have whipped up a hate machine to rival the pre WWII crowds. Look at the hatred in this blog.
I did not understand how Rev. Wright could exist – with no one settling him down – no one contradicting him. I am getting it now.

I was arrested in 1968 in Coral Gables Florida for leading a anti Vietnam War protest march of 10,000 people down South Dixie Highway. I was 19 years old and was one of many patriotic Americans who were opposed to the war. Two years later and upon graduation, I enlisted in the USArmy. Protesting for a cause and enlisting were both my patriotic duty. Simple minded people may find that concept difficult to understand. I thank God that our Founding Fathers understood that concept and wrote it down in the Constitution. I am proud to espouse the statement made by President Teddy Roosevelt in which he made a point of advising voters that agreeing with everything he said was not being patriotic and that patriotic Americans have an obligation to sometimes disagree with their President. So, do I need to advise my friends that under McCain-Palin rules, they may be palling around with a anti-war sympathizer from the late 1960′s? Give me a break. McCain-Palin tying Obama to a now respected University Professor is pure folly. Does every student who ever took a class taught by Bill Ayers need to make this disclosure? If it is fair for McCain-Palin to call Obama on this, I suspect it is fair for Obama to call McCain-Palin on 1. the Keating-5, 2. How I got into the Naval Academy with lousy grades, 3. how I crashed two Navy jets and still got to keep my wings, 4. how I had a one year affair with a liquor heiress and married her one month after my divorce from my first wife. 5. How Governor Palin’s husband was a member of an organization that promoted Alaskan independence. 6. How McCain belonged to a right wing anti-semetic organization. 7. How Governor Palin associated herself with and exorcist witch hunter and credits him with her gaining the Governorship. I think McCain-Palin need to stick to the issues. If they want to sling crap, there is a lot more that can be sent back the way it came.

I used to think that Senator Obama was an honest, decent individual with good judgment and integrity. I have since lost all respect for the man. In my opinion, he has been swallowed whole by political power and greed at its worst, and will stop at nothing to get what he now wants. He has lost what once made him an admirable person. How very sad.

Barack Obama is just a great candidate and will make a great President. McSame’s attacks are a desperate last ditch effort to take focus off what is truly meaningful to the American people and that is the economy. Hillary tried the same thing and it didn’t work and the same old negative crap we are so tired of won’t work this time either. Obama baby, Obama… President-Elect Obama!

Yep, the next four weeks are going to be ugly. It’ll be coming from both sides but at least we know who’ll be wearing the pants and making the big decisions on their respective sides of the campaign.
let’s fight a hate filled smear campaign and maybe everyone will forget that we’ve been screwed over for the last eight years by a dumb- dictator, are a laughing stock around the globe and we would like to sell you four more years of the same crap…

Jab Said, and it’s worth repeating:
“Last month, 159,000 people lost their jobs.
This year three quarter of a million people have lost their jobs.
Middle class and poor Americans have lost jobs, pensions, health care, homes, retirement funds and are paying the highest inflation in 27 years.
How do McCain-Palin’s lies about Obama help those hurting people?
Let McCain-Palin talk about what they will do for all the hurting people.
And let them explain McCain’s part in the “deregulate at any cost” culture which caused this.
Let him explain how he can justify the fact that his advisers like Carly Firoina got 40 Million Dollars in golden parachute when most of what she did was to lay off 18,000 working people.
Let him explain how he can get around the fact that his adviser bank lobbyist Phil Gram (McCain’s next secretary of treasury?) led the rush to deregulate and set up this meltdown.
In other words, let them talk about the economy which really matters to hurting people instead of telling lies about Obama.
Others may forget where this economic meldown came from (from Bush-Cheney, McCain-Gramm), but believe me, I won’t.”
If you poor people could set aside your ideology for a moment, and shut off Faux News, you might realize that you’re being lied to by the reactionary GOP.
The GOP will do NOTHING to protect your job – they will do NOTHING to decrease the cost of living – they will do nothing to get us closer to energy independence.
The GOP is relying on your emotions and sense of self-righteousness to vote them back into a position where they can look down their noses at you while protecting the corporate fat cats.

“I was arrested in 1968 in Coral Gables Florida for leading a anti Vietnam War protest march of 10,000 people down South Dixie Highway.”
And are you also friends with the “esteemed professor”, Bill Ayers? You people need to crawl back under the rock you came from. The 60′s are over. Radicalism is dead.

Please watch Hannity’s america on Fox news. They are talking about some scary things abuout Obama. This really needs to be out there. This man will destroy our country. Please watch and research. This is all true.

Yeah! Now that Palin is out their spouting off about Obama’s pretend relationship with Ayers, who was an activist while Obama was a child, at least now we can talk about Palin’s courtship with the ANTI-American and secessionist AIP, and her husband Todd”s MANY YEARS of membership. VERY RECENTLY. One has to wonder why the Palin’s hate America, and what their motives are now and her wanting a VP power grab, and about McCain’s duplicity regarding the Palins” history. if that fails we can talk about Palin’s WITCH-HUNTING MINISTER.
AMEN TO THAT ONE! I think the McLiar/McPalin ticket better back off if they know what is best for them.

Anytime Palin opens her mouth, it’s good for Obama.

“Please watch Hannity’s america on Fox news. They are talking about some scary things abuout Obama. This really needs to be out there. This man will destroy our country. Please watch and research. This is all true.
Yes hurry up and find out what Bund Leader Sean Hannity wants you to think.

why is it that pelosi, frank and the dem leaders get no credit fot the lowsy economy??? i think congress needs change we can believe in

Hussain Obama and friends plan to overthrow the U.S. Government but you stupid liberals won’t realize it until you have voted him into office. We are going to be in deep, deep, trouble and there will be no way out once King Obama is in office.

If you think that Sean Hannity speaks the truth than you are as pathetic as he and the rest of the Republicans.

PEOPLE!
THE ISSUES!
THANK YOU.

Will the people in this great nation be fooled again and elect Bush into the White House the third time? We will find out on Nov. 4th.
This is going to be a tough month. So many of us are hoping for the best for this nation and yet the divisive smears just keep coming! Ever since the primary, Obama has proven again and again he is steadfast, brilliant, and doing his best to help lift this country up.
American is a great nation. Obama once said that he believes in the better angels of this country. I am one of the better angels he spoke of. I refuse to let the mud fight affect me. I will continue to pray for Obama, Biden, and the future of our country. This is the first time I can vote. I believe in America, I will vote for a better future for our nation. Come Election Day, I will vote for Obama!

OBAMA’S “CHANGE” IS A SLOGAN……
NOBODY ASKED HIM ABOUT DETAILS,BECAUSE
THERE AREN’T ANY………
HE’S A LIAR……HE CANNOT PROVIDE
UNIVERSAL HEATH CARE OR ANY OTHER
SOCIAL PROGRAM BECAUSE CONGRESS WILL STOP HIM…….
BILL CLINTON HAD A SURPLUS AND HE
COULDN’T DO IT………
OBAMA IS AN OPPORTUNIST..AND HE’S
UN-FIT FOR COMMANDER IN CHIEF….
McCAIN/PALIN ’08

Who would believe Palin? When Palin needed to sell her house during her last year as Wasilla mayor, she got the city to sign off on a special zoning exception — and did so without keeping a promise to remove a potential fire hazard. Palin: “When you consider even national security issues with Russia, as (Prime Minister Vladimir) Putin rears his head and comes into the airspace of the United States of America, where — where do they go? It’s Alaska.” Major Allen Herritage, spokesman for the Alaska Region of the North American Aerospace Defense Command at Elmendorf Air Force Base: “To be very clear, there has not been any incursion in U.S. airspace in recent years.” Experts: It’s not a great idea to run a government using Yahoo! e-mail accounts. The practice is dangerous and can run counter to laws ensuring government is open and accountable. By using non-governmental email systems, “Your information is out there available, beyond the official mechanisms there to protect it . . . When she’s communicating about government programs, that information is not being protected with the typical precautions the government has put in place in its own risk management process.” I am sure Palin will find this hard to swallow since she often uses the phrase “open government” to express her political identity. Most assuredly, Palin uses Yahoo so she will be able to withhold some emails from public release. Sounds like a crook trying to cover her trail. “I think it’s a stretch to, in any way, to say that she’s [Sara Palin’s] got the experience to be president of the United States.” Republican Chuck Hagel

jim
you do have to admit they are good for a few laughs—those who believe them are so dumb that they will not find where to vote.

GL: Obama’s pretend association is like McCain’s pretend vote against the first assault weapons ban. They’re both fact…deal with it. Sorry if he’s being attacked. That’s life.

… Back to US, back to US, back to USSR!!
USA, protect your freedoms on Nov 4th!

Oh yes, I agree. I come to this board just to see the McSame’its try to support the old crustacean who says he’s a progressive change agent… ha, ha, ha… How freakin’ hilarious…

“Obama should answer questions truthfully in details, including his association with Ayers, his religion, and his citizenship. These questions are very important to American voters.”
These questions have been answered, but you and others are preying on the less informed, trying to create FEAR.
Haven’t we had enough fear-mongering and lies for the last 8 years?

Palin is grasping at straws after her selection as McCain’s Vice-President has further derailed McCain. The Ayers thing was COMPLETELY vetted during Obama’s Democratic campaign against Hillary Clinton.

sandalwood | – Palin and her husband attended many meeting with Alaskan Independence Party (AIP)
Palin called this group “inspiring” and endorsed their “party’s vision”.
So, don’t start nothing you can not finished!

“These questions have been answered, but you and others are preying on the less informed, trying to create FEAR.
Haven’t we had enough fear-mongering and lies for the last 8 years?”
It’s a coincidence that he lives in the same neighborhood as Ayers and Farrakhan?

How about we argue about their socks. McCain wears communist red socks. Obama’s are pink for same gender marriage.

Sean: A sincere answer: Good on you that you have a job, health care, and own your own home. What change means is this: others not so fortunate but surely your equal as human beings and members of our society will have a little better shot at what you have; the balance will shift some small way in the direction of caring most about the middle and lower classes of our society, and a little less toward rewarding unfettered greed whose preferentially assured success is witnessed by the fact that we are currently witnessing the largest wholesale transfer of wealth to the highest earning 5 % of our society in the HISTORY OF THE REPUBLIC. Sorry to tell you, that isn’t ultimately good for the country. Why? Because the very “wealth” so selfishly accruing to the already rich is produced by you and I, the people who actually work and struggle and produce. When too much of that real wealth and buying power is consolidated in the few not the many the economic engine of society grinds to a halt: turns out, rich as they are, they cannot buy enough to keep the market chugging. The market needs a huge number of consumers. As Henry Ford knew, you must pay a wage sufficient to buy the very products you wish to sell, so make sure that your capitalist machine is WIN-WIN. Right now it grossly favors the already favored. What a Democratic Administration will do, however imperfectly, is focus more on the needs, rights, and dreams of the very people who CREATE the very wealth the richest so eagerly claim as their own. Yes, its a different philosophy that the GOP, who make no secret that they believe in preferentially serving the wealthiest, because they believe that the benefits of bald self interest will eventually “trickle down” the less fortunate–the fact that the opposite is occurring while they say this is yet further evidence of the “up is down” fantasy that is being sold as the ‘free market,’and why it is all falling down when you discover people are living in a house of cards.

Google: U.S. Council for World Freedom McCain
Keating Five
Alaskan Independence Party (AIP)
Palin called this group “inspiring” and endorsed their “party’s vision”.
Carl H. Lindner Jr (A McCain top fundraiser)

More Republican game-playing to try and distract from what Americans really want to talk about, which is what does McCain actually plan to do to better our country and solve the problems and correct the wrongdoings that he helped create under the current administration. They would rather make it a cult of personality, an image campaign, and avoid actually committing to doing anything. Obama is right, America is tired of the tabloid-like smears and wants leaders who will stand for positive change, not gossip, spin and double-talk.

the lieing sick old geser and his soulmate are done in pa—goodby and good riddance we are tired of your sick crap.

“Morning Call Tracking Obama +10
Quinnipiac Obama +15
FOX News/Rasmussen Obama +8
Franklin & Marshall Obama +7
SurveyUSA Obama +6″
Cling to those polls, because they are gonna be achangin.

Everybody should have equal rights…my right, you’re wrong. It’s nice to see ABC has been pretty tolerant lately. Let’s all give ‘em a hand (clap, clap)

We don’t need someone in the White House that wouldn’t be able to pass a background check for employment with the FBI.
Just say no to left-wing radicals.

McCain and company think the economy is strong. He even said so the other week. Palin had to (conveniently) explain that what he meant was the American worker was strong. What? What? Hello! What?
Did she mean strong like in BO or strong as in muscle. Hello. Are they idiots?
People making as much as 80,000 a year are struggling to make ends meet. It shouldn’t be like this folks. The republicans have screwed the USA and if anyone falls for their phony line of crap then they deserve the great depression that they will get. Of course, if my memory serves me tonight, the great depression did not affect the wealthy, only the middle class and the poor as much.

Let’s make Indiana a blue state for the first time in 40 years!
Indiana for Obama!

From Today’s P U M A diary
“Please explain to me how it is a “smear” to mention Obama’s associations with Ayers, but it is perfectly ok to bring up everyone and anyone that Hillary ever met in her life? Didn’t their mothers ever tell them that “birds of a feather flock together?” I know mine did when she objected and/or forbid me to hang out with certain people in high school even though I assured here I wasn’t doing what they were doing.
Put on your reddest lipstick, your highest heels & your chicest pantsuit & vote for the Woman, It’s Important!Virginia resident here in Culpeper. McPalin 2008″
“I voted for McCain/Palin last Tuesday, in Ohio. And as I said, I didn’t feel once twinge of guilt.”
“Yes, I love the fact that Paln is inspiring young conservative women just as Clinton inspires young liberal women. Honestly, Palin inspires me! I am voting McCain/Palin. I don’t care that she’s conservative. Unlike other liberals, I’m not blinded to the fact that there are many conservative women out there and I believe they have just as much of a right to be part of the women’s movement as well.
Too many liberals have reduced feminism down to one issue – abortion. That is an unfortunate mistake. Women’s issues are vast indeed and I can’t wait to have more women in govt on both sides of the left-right divide. Men aren’t grouped into one political group, so why should women be?”
P U M A
google the confluence

Nolad my boy….the democrates have run congress. You get one point for the president. -1 one for forgetting congress. You still win a prize. A depression of grandest proportions! And as a complimetary parting gift. A free tin cup so your kids can beg for money.

MACK WHO CARES????? It’s all irrelevant.

Mack – who helped McCain get into Annapolis? LOL

All the Democrats have to do is show a President Palin in the White House contemplating a message from God, and pushing the NUKE button. The thought of people actually voting the the Repubs ia amazing. It’s no wonder we are he laughingstock of the entire world.

McCain is a total sellout. He claims “Maverick” status through bucking his own party on issues like campaign finance reform, torture and global warming, yet he is taking millions from lobbyists (Obama isn’t taking a dime from lobbyists), dropped the ball on torture, and stated he wouldn’t now vote for the very climate change bill he wrote himself.
He is the biggest flip-flop in American political history.
For someone accusing Obama of being “elitist”, it can be stated with surety that McCain is much more of an elistist than Obama could ever have hoped to be. Obama was raised by a single mother, and had enough brains and suport to get himself into Columbia and later Harvard. McCain, on the other hand, was born into wealth and power (the only reason he wasn’t removed from being able to fly planes) and was able to use his position to avoid consequences for his reckless youth. Obama went into community service (and tell me you would not admire any young man for doing so), while McCain got drunk and womanized all over the world.
To me, McCain is the rich elitist if there is one. Obama simply is smarter and better educated. You tell me which of those sounds more “elitist”.
Obama voted against the Iraq War. He was right. McCain is still probably looking for WMD. McCain was clearly wrong on the war.
The current tactics of associating Obama with a “terrorist” when Obama was 8 years old is absurd. With the internet, we are able, much more quickly, to sort out the facts from the factless attacks.
McCain would be a continuation of the politics of fear, and a continuation of a much lower standing in the world a la Bush. Obama will offer us hope again, not only for the economy, but for a renewed standing in the world among our allies.
Vote Obama and end the InSanity!

Will – You are very astute – your very brief but pointed post, “All the Democrats have to do is show a President Palin in the White House contemplating a message from God, and pushing the NUKE button. The thought of people actually voting the the Repubs ia amazing. It’s no wonder we are he laughingstock of the entire world” is the very reason Palin scares the heck out of me.

jessy jaymes—you forget that mccain was a d student—-very qualified HA HA HA HA HA–THE PLANES HE WRECKED AND THE HAVOC ON THE CARRIED PLUS HIS PROPAGANDA BROADCASTS WHEN A PRISIONER PROVES EXACTLY WHAT HE IS—DUMB DUMB—HE MAKES GOMER LOOK LIKE A GENIOUS

You people will further hurt your own prospects by electing a president and VP who barely finished college themselves. Terrorists are the least of your concerns, especially if you’re living in rural America, which is surely the case for most of you.

Why are more people not recognizing the importance of Obama’s charisma. He could actually restore many of our allies, that look at America and despise it currently. It’s the second most important thing to me, after the economy. 2 of the many reasons Obama/Biden in 08 instead of McSame/Putin in 08.

Here’s the silliness of the whole concept: Has Obama committed any terrorist acts? Nope. Has Obama ever been found guilty of breaking any laws? Nope. Has Obama ever said anything disparaging about the U.S. at church? Nope. These are all things that other people did, not Obama. If we went by this standard we’d all be in trouble, we’ve all known somebody who did something, said something, broke some law that we didn’t know about…especially McCain. How many of his congrssional buddies and comrades are now or have been sitting in a federal prison??? Doesn’t that make McCain a crook by McCain’s own standards? Did McCain do anything about Bush’s illegal wiretapping of American citizens without warrants? Doesn’t that make McCain a constitutional law breaking raketeering conspirator? Give it up McCain. Obama’s record is of good deeds and aspirations, yours is long and scary!

“If Obama’s “CHANGE,CHANGE,CHANGE” is for reviving of prosperous capitalism America, it will be fine.”
Stop right there.
Obama will not and cannot affect such change, without the co-operation of the Congress.
Our system protects us from undue influence from the President; you will still have conservative elements in Congress that will no doubt stonewall any radical bills.

Nolad McSnitch….I’m glad you brought up Palin’s pathetic explanation of what John McCain really meant when he said that our economy was fundamentally strong. Oh! I get it! He was talking about the American worker! Yea! Right! I haven’t heard so much BS since I faked being sick to skip school when I was a kid.

Trash-talking Palin says
Obama pals around with
terrorists which of
course is not true.
What is true is that
McCain palled around with
the North Vietnamese for
five years and gave them
classified military
information which helped
them shoot down more planes
with greater accuracy.

“Hillary Rules – Obama stole the votes the Hillary earned in Michigan -first with half – then with all of her votes.THIS MICHIGAN WOMAN IS GOING MCCAIN.
One more note for you if you think in any way that the Clintons are supporting Obama – read between the lines – watch their actions.
HIllary is putting in as much as she will to show her party unity – nothing more or less. Bill is speaking in two tones – listen very careful to his words – we are and we read his message loud and clear.”
“They were life long Democrats. Dad passed away abstaining from voting in the last electgion. My mother for the first time will vote Republican. Not because of Obama’s race or gender – but because she no longer believes the Democratic party is affiliated with her beliefs.-Michigan”
“Carolilna North – right there with yoy I won’t vote for Bev for Governor or Hagan for senate. I will leave the senate race blank because I can’t vote for Dole either.
As for my congressman David Price – I won’t vote for him either as he was very involved in the DNC primary corruption. I was invited to a private reception for David this afternoon but skipped it. I have donated to him for years and years (until this year) and usually attend these functions but was afraid I would embarrass myself today. He is pond scum.
I will vote for McCain/Palin. ”
P U M A
It is now 30 days before the election. Initiate the P U M A effect!

James Danley
We know Barack Obama pretty well by now. Between his books, his policy positions, his speeches, and his millions of enemies trying to find anything bad about him, we have a fairly complete picture.
And we are voting for him in record numbers. So maybe it is YOU who needs to learn more about him!

McCain goes all out Rovian and we know how that turned out these last 8 years!!!!
Given that Senator McCain thinks the “fundamentals” of the economy are strong in the face of the greatest economic crisis facing Americans in generations what else does he have left in his political arsenal but smear and distract tactics? McCain is completely out of touch with everyday Americans and the challenges they are facing — high and growing unemployment, rising healthcare costs, trying to figure out how to send their children to college and plan for a secure retirement..
In case you need reminding where Senator McSame’s head is at – in his own words…
“I didn’t decide to run for President to start a national crusade for the political reforms I believed in or to run a campaign as if it were some grand act of patriotism. In truth, I wanted to be President because it had become my ambition to be President. I was sixty-two years old when I made the decision and I thought it was my one shot at the prize.” [John McCain, "Worth the Fighting For: A Memoir" (2002)]

hhhmmm let me see, we’ve been in this race now for what, almost 19 months? All this stuff about Obama stayed secret all this time? Give me a break. It’s all been debunked and disproven.

puma’ if you care so much about hillary,
you be the ones to pay the last bit to retire her debt.
mccain was right there saying bush and cheney were right. no mavrick there.
mccain and the repubs must not win.
the country has suffered enough.
mccain has shown he does not have a new plan for this country. why should he?
he thinks the plan george bush had for this country is just fine.
say no to mccain and palin continuing the bush bringing down of this country.

Let Palin release her college trascripts before asking Obama’s. Palin is a puppet in the hands of old man McCain. McCain/Palin is a disaster for the USA. Old man with an inexperienced and foolish running mate.

Guilt by association is a dangerous game. We might, for instance, point out that Palin has been sleeping with a man who joined a party that thinks so little of America that it advocates succession from the country. This didn’t happen when Sarah Palin was eight years old, and as a gubernatorial candidate she spoke at the party’s 2006 convention. As governor she told the party, “Keep up the good work!”
I can not wait until this blow up in Sara Palin face!!!!

As Rachel Maddow said, “The McCain Campaign is already circling the drain.”

it seems sarah palin really does need to stay at home and get her own house in order, I really don’t think she is up to the job.
if mccain was serious about having a woman, why not pick some other rep woman.
afraid she would be smarter than he is.
mccain and crew will keep up the same plan for this country as bush did.
we need a break.
noway, no how, no mccain.

mccain and the repubs have to be accountable for the mess bush has put us in.
we cannot send mccain and palin to the white house while bush and the repubs
have put us in the poor house.
mccain and palin, you are going to have to answer for what bush and cheney did to this country.
Posted by: omg | Oct 5, 2008 10:04:46 PM
In reply: the democratic congress is the one who put us in this mess.

I can see the Pacific Ocean from my house. I think I’ll apply for a job as an Oceanographer tomorrow.

Wow, I guess Palin’s Ayers comment has made the people restless tonight. I guess everyone is freaking out about the polls for this coming Tuesday when all of this hits the fan.

jock59801, you stated that you have a “fairly complete” picture of Sen. Obama. Maybe a “fairly complete” picture is good enough for you and millions others. But there are still millions of voters who may want a “more complete” picture of Sen. Obama.
So please cite a source where Sen. Obama has specifically stated that he was never recruited by Frank Marshall Davis to be a CPUSA member. Please cite a source where Sen. Obama has specifically stated that he was never a member of the CPUSA. Please cite a source where Sen. Obama has specifically stated that he has never espoused any of the tenants of the CPUSA. Please cite a source where Sen. Obama has specifically stated that he has never espoused any of the tenants of Black Liberation Theology.

What’s an “American worker”? Here’s just one of a thousand examples:
A company in Ohio that produces alternative energy (wind, solar) begins the long process of starting up with help from government subsidies under the Clinton presidency. It is ready to start business and will offer over 300 new jobs to American workers. One problem. Clinton’s second term is over, and Bush is expected to drop government subsidies for start-up alternative energy businesses (oh, surprise!). The worst comes true for the Ohio start-up. SO it ups and leaves for Germany where labor and the costs of doing bsiness will be cheaper! My friends who captain ships transporting alternative energy products syas the U.S. has to import that stuff. Nothing is being produced here! In other words, WHAT AMerican worker? Our jobs are being shipped overseas thanks to Bush ties to the oil companies.
End the Bush-Cheney-McCain-Palin oil economy now! And don’t be fooled by either McCain or Palin. The oil industry is inside both of their back pockets!
By the way, Palin was FOR the “Bridge to Nowhere” originally. She only voted against it after Congress killed it. And let’s get real: she was chosen only to provide sexual favors for McCain. And I’m not talking about actual sex here: I’m talking about his choosing her based ONLY on her sex. because it sure as hell couldn’t have been because of her BRAINS!

Obama clearly has control of the dialogue in the campaign (at this moment…). He can make McCain-Palin look desperate and angry even before their ominous attack plan has been launched.
http://www.political-buzz.com/

What about McCain’s Senate censure for his involvement in the Keating scandal years ago? And aren’t we in a similar but larger mess now? The conservative base is determined to win this election even if they have to resort to lies, half truths and more lies to do it. Who cares about the truth…any fool can write something on the internet and it is taken as gospel.

What about McCain’s Senate censure for his involvement in the Keating scandal years ago? And aren’t we in a similar but larger mess now? The conservative base is determined to win this election even if they have to resort to lies, half truths and more lies to do it. Who cares about the truth…any fool can write something on the internet and it is taken as gospel.

This harkens back to McCarthyism when Senator McCarthy tried to destroy careers through guilt by association. If guilt by association is the standard, then Sarah Palin may be a party to treason, given that her husband, it is reported, was a member of a secessionist group, seeking Alaska’s secession from the United States. Let’s not go back to that era!! Why is the press even reporting this rubbish!

P U M A
diary Sunday October 5th
“The culprit in this case is Obama’s proposed reform of the Hope Scholarship Tax Credit for college tuition, which he would rename the American Opportunity Tax Credit. He would increase the credit’s maximum value from $1,800 to $4,000 while still phasing out the credit over the same income range, $100,000 to $120,000. The larger phase-out would boost the penalty on work from 9 percentage points to 20 percentage points. No way. No Obama. Democrat first time in my life I am voting republican -gulp.”
“Carolina North — they have to lie about Obama’s crowds because Palin is getting anywhere from 30-60k. Can’t have a “fluffy bunny” showing up the big man, now can we?”
“I live in Heath Shuler’s district. He endorsed Hillary only after the primary because his district went overwhelmingly for her. At the convention, he switched to Obama. I will not vote for him. I am voting a straight Republican ticket for the first time in my life. Obama was in Asheville today. They say 28,000 attended; gross exaggeration. They say only one protestor; gross under exaggeration. I was there. Over 100 people lined the street with McCain/Palin, Nobama, and P U M A signs.”
P U M A
The DNC told us to go away…So we did.

Obama gets coveted Communist Endorsement
“The clearest expression of this developing movement pivots around the candidacy of Barack Obama, whose inspirational message and politics have captured the imagination of millions.
So much so that many commentators and politicians use the words ‘transformational’ or ‘transforming’ to describe his candidacy — that is, a candidacy capable of assembling a broad people’s majority to reconfigure the terms and terrain of politics in this country in a fundamental way.”
Sam Webb Chair Communist Party USA

Never let up on keeping our freedoms, independence and our democracy. Continue to speak out on the anti-American friends of the Flim Flam Obamaman. Ayers, Wright, Farrakhan, Flagler…all want to see our government fail.
America, why do you choose your friends? Because you have something in common and share the same ideas on life. Sometimes we even share the same friends. America, need we say more about the friends that the Flim Flam Obamaman has and why?
Ayers bombed our Pentagon…our Pentagon…America…is not the Commander and Chief the head of the Pentagon? Does not the Flim Flam Obamaman want to be that Chief? Sure it happened when he was 8 or 9…but does that excuse him from still associating with a man who is unrepentent after all these years and admitted to bombing it? He’d be in jail today if not for a technicality that threw his case out. After 9/11 he even stated his same hateful views against our government…he hasn’t changed…only his friends have and one of them wants to be President of the United States.
America…we will never let up on these friendships until they are thoroughly investigated. There is too much at stake here…America…we cannot afford to open the doors to a socialist state if the Flim Flam Obamaman ever, ever gets near the house of the people – the White House.
The Democratic leadership are liars and deceivers. They are trying to tell America…they are being attacked. America…they deserve to be attacked…they are the enemy when their platform is a socialist, not a democratic, platform!
My vote is for President Elect McCain and Vice President Elect Palin. I will also be voting straight Republican to make sure and clean house on those do nothing Democrats headed by the Speaker of the failed Democratic House – Marie Antoinette – Pelosi.
VOTER REVOLUTION…HERE AND NOW!
FLIM FLAM: HE IS DECEITFUL, HE IS A FRAUD AND HE IS DOUBLE-DEALING AND DOUBLE-TONGUED

Try if you will, the American has spoken and just like Sam Cooke “Change Gone Come” the clock is ticking on the McCain campaign and each and every McCain/Palin supporter knows itm they’re mad as hell right now but where has this anger been the last 8 years?
The bottomline line is this and its crystal clear.

I think both lack the leadership quality. Obama no depth, not a good speaker, no charisma, appeals to the superficial, and those who want changes at any cost, with no regard to consequences.
Mccain not a good speaker, no substance,no charisma, made the a mistake to choose Sara Palin for VP.
This reflects a decline in the quality of decission makers , and leaders the US has produced.

“sarah palin ia a 4th reich white separatist who is playing the nationalist card but this is america where white’s are becoming the minority”
Racism cuts both ways my friend – my skin color shouldn’t matter to you any more than yours does to me.
As you said, we are under Divine Law.
“I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.” – Martin Luther King

TakeAmericaBarack – Don’t forget about Phil Gramm’s wife! Wendy Gramm was head of Reagan’s Task Force on Regulatory Relief and she also chaired the US Commodity Futures Trading Commission during Reagan’s last term. Under Gramm, the Commission exempted many energy futures contracts from regulation. A month after Wendy Gramm, wife of Republican Phil Gramm, resigned from her commission position, she was appointed to Enron’s board of directors!

Interesting comments on the whole thing by Joe Lieberman….
Independent Democratic Sen. Joe Lieberman of Connecticut, who has jumped parties to support McCain, also called Palin’s comments “fair game” and suggested a double standard is at work among those who would say Obama’s ties are irrelevant.
“If the shoe was on the other foot and John McCain had one of his earliest campaign events at the home of somebody who had formed a right-wing group that had bombed buildings and then had been on a board with the guy for several years, you bet the Obama campaign would have been raising that question. It’s just the way it is,” Lieberman told “FOX News Sunday.”

Palin is a shallow and pathetic voice.
After showing up on the national scene three weeks ago she is ready to tear down a dignified candidate who her own party head McCain stood up for. Palin is shallow, stupid and more so just dangerous and ugly in her put downs, her rhetoric and her Britney Spear winks…..while she lies about her own record. There are brilliant Americans everywhere who can serve and who are dignified even in dissent. Palin is a joker who will damage anything she touches. There are brilliant women everywhere—why are we so enthralled with a silly winking idiot who thinks Putin “rears his head” over Alaska….what a lost and sad state that to raise women’s profile we resort to a beauty queen with a rifle—what about women who run companies, in the senate with track records, with integrity rather then investigations for corruption after 16 months in office. We just saw our banks collapse and we are discussing a vice president who has shown she can’t handle a media interview….No one has to like Obama but we also don’t need a campaign run on put downs, suspended campaigning, and smarmy attitude laden speaches by Palin who seems like she is on American Idol …. does she ever say something other than a memorized sound bite jab….
McCain will push her aside if he is elected: he will push women back in time rather then forward….you watch what they do after they have used her “charm….”

Oh how sweet it is!!
republicans do die hard and with much whining ans complaining even after they ripped off the American taxpayer the biggest I have seen in my short lifetime.
Hey, don’t go away mad, just go away!!

Did anyone else see the Sarah Palin Debate flow chart? Hilarious!! Google it. You will enjoy it no matter on what side of the aisle you sit.

The (leftist) mass media, e.g., ABC
(A)lways (B)e (a) (C)ommunist, will
one day rue the day they supported the
O’bama election. Sadly, with the loss
of their press freedoms, it’ll be way
too late!

Posted by: USVet | Oct 5, 2008 7:06:31 PM
You said the EXACT same thing on this board two months ago and now, Obama has a bigger lead. Obama ate the chickens, their not coming home.
What a McSame tool.

Ok if it’s going to be a discussion about Ayers, then it’s time to bring up Charles Keating, John McCain’s buddy who was at the center of the Savings and Loan scandel and bailout! McCain received gifts from Keating, used his private plane repeatedly as well as vacationing repeatedly at Keatings place in the Carribean. McCain spoke with government officials on Keating’s behalf, in effect lobbying on his behalf. Now that isn’t a vague association, that’s a direct connection that involved McCain getting a slap from Congress for his bad judgement. The S&L crisis was another example of deregulation gone wild just as is the trouble we’re in today. McCain seems to constantly be tied to questionable judgement and failure. This guy is unfit to be president.

If Palin wants to defend something she needs to defend why she hasn’t protected the women and children of Alaska. Read the following it’s facts not gossip. She put oil and gas before the safety of the women and children
According to the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence, Alaska’s rape rate is 2.5 times the national average.
Alaska also has the highest rate per capita of men murdering women. Ninety percent of Alaskans would vote to increase funding for victim service programs because according to the coalition, programs are in dire need of more funding in order to serve the sheer volume of victims. Seventy-five percent of Alaskans have been or know someone who has been the victim of sexual assault or domestic violence. Alaska’s domestic violence shelters, sexual assault services and programs for survivors have seen relatively small increase funding. In 2008, the state budget included an additional $300,000 in funding for victim service programs. According to Alaska’s Council on Domestic Violence and Sexual Assault in 2009 Governor Palin’s budget includes an increase in funds to help shelters offset the higher costs of fuel, utilities and insurance. But the extraordinary levels of violence against in the state of Alaska and the underlying causes still require a much greater level of state-level funding oversight. According to the Alliance for Reproductive Justice, who lobbied to address these issues in 2007, the Governor did not respond. The Alliance has this to say on their website “Governor Palin did not deliver and did not take a leadership role on any of these issues. In fact, this year, when there was a 7 billion dollar state surplus she did not step up to the plate for the women and children of Alaska…we were truly disappointed with her lack of action on this critical public health issue.” Most of Alaska’s funding for sexual assault and violence against women programs comes from the federal government.
Peggy Brown executive director of the Alaska Network on Domestic Violence and Sexual Assault said ” She’s really done a lot of work on oil and gas, but when it comes to violence against women and children…we haven been on her radar as a priority.” Current and former officials from Palin’s adminstration confirm that an anbitious plan to tackle the crisis has apparently sunk into doldrums arriving at the governors offices. These are the people of Alaska talking about her. People please listen to the cries of the women and children of Alaska. How can we trust her to protect the country when she can’t protect a population of 650,000. Also, the same day they gave her a welcome home greeting, later that day they had a Reject Palin Rally over 1,000 women were there. It was the largest rally turnout Alaska has ever seen. And she wants to represent Hocky Moms. Google Track Palin vandalizing buses. In 2005, him along we three of his friends alledgally vandalized 44 buses. They broke mirrors and cut the brake lines on buses. A bus driver noticed the damage the next mourning. He spent time in a juvenille facility in Michigan. Although he served his time, and is moving on with his life (which is a good thing)the point I’m making is Palin is a fake and she has too much drama in her life to be trying to point the finger at anybody.

Publius: we all agree. Wait until the work with the corrupt ACORN organization starts getting some scrutiny. They have an enforcement squad and have been a major contributor to voter fraud – not that any of that would matter to the democrats who are out for blood.
The Wall Street Journal reports one incident where ACORN submitted 1800 voter registration forms. Only 6 of them where for eligible voters. Obama was legal council for ACORN and funneled money to their get out the vote effort. No wonder he wins in Chicago.

Did anyone else see the Sarah Palin Debate flow chart? Hilarious!! Google it. You will enjoy it no matter on what side of the aisle you sit.
Posted by: John InSane
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Where is it located on google?

Parrothead – With you blogging there’s no need for me – you can tackle the McCain/Palin machine of and misdirection pretty darn good all by yourself.

Funny that Condie Rice has recently gone to Lybia. I guess it is ok for Republicans to deal with former terrorists.

“I think it’s a stretch to, in any way, to say that she’s [Sara Palin’s] got the experience to be president of the United States.” Republican Chuck Hagel

Fox News is getting desperate. They may as well say “we hate black people.” Or atleast “we don’t want a black president”. Right now they’re running a program called Obama & Friends: History of Radicalism. They’ve been doing this all day. I hope Obama wins just so Fox News looses.

McCain’s campaign has to do its’ own investigative reporting because the media will not. The media, MSNBC, NYTIMES, love Obama and have been rooting for him since the primaries. They refuse to follow up an his associates, or his shifting positions on taxes, diplomacy etc. Chris matthews and keith olberman of MSNBC are so anti McCain it is disgusting. They trip over themselves praising Obama. No one talks about his lack of experience, his abdication of leadership on the Senate SubCommittee on Afghanistan as Chair when he never had a meeting, his history of rewarding his friends while spending taxpayer money on dubious products, his assoicating with people who hate America, bomb America, and cheat Amwericans. No one looks at the ramification of Democratic controlled Congress and Presidency and how bad that is for governing the country in a bi-partisan fashion. Reid, Pelosi, Obama trio is not good for the country. If Obama can’t take the truth then maybe he shouldn;t be running. He is the most liberal of Senators backed by Daily Kos and MoveOn, who do not back moderates.

If Palin is going to say this, it is now perfectly legitimate to point out that she repeatedly courted a secessionist group founded by someone who openly professed hatred of the American government, cursed our flag, and wanted to secede from the Union.
Todd was a member, with a brief exception, from 1995 until 2002, according to the Division of Elections in Alaska.
The founder of the AIP was a man named Joe Vogler. Here’s what he had to say in a 1991 interview, only a few years before Palin attended its convention: “The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government.”
He also said this: “And I won’t be buried under their damn flag. I’ll be buried in Dawson. And when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home.”
Vogler has also said: “I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.”

Obama and ACORN Stealing Votes
When watching the various investigations of ACORN by almost every state – remember Barack Obama and ACORN goes way back. ACORN = The Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now.
“I’ve been fighting alongside ACORN on issues you care about my entire career. Even before I was an elected official, when I ran Project Vote voter registration drive in Illinois, ACORN was smack dab in the middle of it, and we appreciate your work.” — Barack Obama, Speech to ACORN, November 2007.
ACORN is a private corporation that refuses to release its financial statements, NOT a Non-profit, yet Barack Obama made multiple grants to ACORN while with the Woods Foundation.
Senator Obama served as a paid director to a “progressive” Chicago-area non-profit organization, the Woods Fund, from 1999 until almost 2003. William C. Ayers served with Senator Obama on the organization’s board of directors.
2001 the Woods Fund gave a $40,000 financial aid grant to a group with ties to the PLO
2002, the Woods Fund gave the Arab American Action Network a second gift of $35,000.
Senator Obama chaired the CAC from 1995 through 1999 Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC) — what essentially became Mr. Ayers’ failed Leftist attempt to redesign education in Chicago schools
Woods Fund, it also made a $1,000,000 contribution to Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC)

McCain’s VP Choice Is Under Ethics Investigation For Abuse Of Power In Alaska»
Palin’s reformer image took a hit last month when she was accused of attempting to get a state trooper fired. That state trooper was her former brother-in-law who had gone through “a messy divorce” with her sister. After the trooper’s boss wouldn’t act on the governor’s request, she fired him. Though Palin says she doesn’t “have anything to hide” and she “didn’t do anything wrong there,” an investigation has found that one of her aides pushed the firing:
Gov. Sarah Palin on Wednesday revealed an audio recording that shows an aide pressuring the Public Safety Department to fire a state trooper embroiled in a custody battle with her sister.
Palin, who has previously said her administration didn’t exert pressure to get rid of trooper Mike Wooten, also disclosed that members of her staff had made about two dozen contacts with public safety officials about the trooper.
Palin’s scandal envelops her in the constellation of scandal-plagued lawmakers currently serving in Alaska. Here’s a brief overview:
Sen. Ted Stevens: Last month, long-serving Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens was indicted by a federal grand jury “with seven counts of making false statements for failing to disclose” gifts of over $250,000 from the oil services company VECO Corp.

I truly and honestly think could beat her, and I promise not to say “ya” in a professional setting!!!
TINA FOR VP!!!

Extremely Scary!!!! Extremely Unsettling!!!! And you McCain/Palin supporters may think she is cute when she winks and memorizes lines and you sell her dolls like you are in a ballpark watching a game, but there are Real Enemies of Ours who would not negotiate with an Airhead who knows nothing and would regard her as a JOKE and you voting her in would make you the JOKE also. You would be asking for Danger. Make “Say It Ain’t So Joe” go home. If that does not scare you, nothing will !!!!!
OBAMA/BIDEN 2008 – Country and Security First !!!!!

Palin is getting more aggressive, and it isn’t even just toward Obama. She publicly chastised McCain for pulling out of Michigan. Ouch. Bet McCain didn’t appreciate that. I think Palin is beginning to believe her own hype and she thinks we’ve all forgotten the Couric interviews (or we accept Palin’s nonsense spin about those interviews being filtered and unfair). We’re about to see the growth of an enormous ego. Wonder how McCain will deal with it? All I know is that for me, as a woman, I’m repulsed by Palin — she’s a poser. And her “palling around with terrorists” accusation against a sitting United States Senator offends me.

NO WAY
NO HOW
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MCCAIN NO PALIN !
wE WANT TO PROGRESS WITH OBAMA!

I have said it for months now – take the “l” out of Palin and you will see that she will be the pain in McCain’s campaign. Not only did Palin not answer many of the questions, she arrogantly told the moderator that she did not intend to answer her questions. She obviously had memorized speeches for particular questions and if a question was not answered by one of those speeches, she regardlessly recited one of her non-germane speeches. She is arrogant and full of pride and told the world that America was a prideful nation. She wants more power for the VP – whether it is provided for in the Constitution or not.

If this script were flipped, the Republicans would be chewing Palin up and spitting her out.
Biden had to hold back. I wish Hilary could have stood in for Biden just that one night. Wouldn’t you like to see that?

Just because you associate with someone doesn’t mean you are like them. If your roommate in college uses drugs, does that mean you do to. If Sarah Palins husband drives drunk, does that mean she does too. If McCain’s wife is a drug addict and thief, does that mean McCain is also. A politician meets thousands of people. Obama can’t help it if the man lives in his neighborhood.

Apparently, John McCain wants to be president so much that he will do anything to get there. The allegations about William Ayers are old stories — he was in the Weather Underground in the 1970s. Is he a “radical” now? No, he’s an educated liberal, so I guess we still shouldn’t like even more. Nonsense.
By the way, have you ever asked yourself how Senator McCain came to be an Arizonan? I lived there in 1981 when he first moved into the state, and it was common knowledge he arrived because his advisors had told him it was the best place for a conservative Republican POW to get elected to Congress. Which he did almost immediately. He was ambitious then, he’s ambitious now, and he’s apparently sold his soul to the far right conservative wing of the party, the very people he used to shy away from.

I cannot imagine another race in American history where the media has done so much to hide from the voters a critical and damaging piece of information about one of the candidates: His apparent 13 year association with a man who worked to bomb domestic targets and kill his fellow citizens.

If Republicans are hanging their entire lot on something Sean Hannity has been saying for six months on his show–and apparently it hasn’t worked to this point, yet they keep on keepin’ on–they truly have nothing, nada, not a thing left.

P.U.M.A.:
People Unable to Maturely Acquiesce.

It’s that time of night again… the super long ranting posts appear. Cut or Copy and Paste I would imagine. Sheesh, someone said people are getting paid to post for the campaigns… it can’t be very much is it?
Anyway… I’m thinking about this MSM thing (I read that as mainstream media…right?) Well, consider — if it is serving the mainstream, it is likely to be serving the majority. Fringe groups etc. usually don’t represent the majority, right?
And in America (according to that pesky little Constitution thing) the majority rules.
I’m glad, I wouldn’t want some of the groups posting all over the internet (from either end of the political spectrum) to rule.

This is a dangerous strategy “do you know of anyone who turned out to be dangerous…” becuase most likely, most of us can say yes. I went to a talk that police had for parents on keeping your kids safe, and they had some numbers, something like you w ill be friends with over 200 people in yourlife, and you figure about 5% of hte population turn into criminals, and I forget the percentagese of mental illness and drug addicts, but it turned out that each of uswill know 10 to 20 bad bad people. Most you will never find out what they did, but trust us, he said, they are out there. I got me thinking, one Iknow of was, I thought, a really good kid, even cute, who endedup murdering his g irlfriend when she broke up with him. Stabbed her 15 times. Another turned into a convicted childabuser. In the 70′s Obama was about 10. I really dont see the purpose ofthis. It’s already been debunked he didn’t know this person as a friend, they happened to live in the same town. But even so, are you repsonsible for what other people do? Palin slept with her husbands business partner. McCain cheated on his wife and left her and her children, and Cindy married another women’shusband. I would say it’s much more important what THEY DO, their decisions. THAT tells you MUCH MORE about a person.

What is a ‘true fact’ as opposed to a ‘fact?’ Or, how about a ‘false fact’?

As the days grow shorter and McSame and Palin grow more desperate, expect that attacks on Obama will become more extreme and more outrageous. Do not expect the neo-cons to go down without using every dirty trick in their Karl Rove playbook. Problem for them is their policies are so extreme that they continue to exploit the middle class, and they have a rebellion on their bloodied hands and cannot buffalo the American public with the mess that they have created.

How can I responsibly vote for a man who refuses to directly address any important issue in any tangible way, instead constantly attempting to redirect my attention to his latest sideshow, produced to prove the unworthiness of his opponent based upon another obtuse side-issue? Palin seems to be just eye-candy, and the emptiest of suits yet an experienced sports announcer, hired to deliver the blows.

McCain and Gramm for the past 26 years have torn down regulation. McCain is known as the Deregulation Senator. Now that his actions have come back to haunt him at the failure in Wall Street including the failure of a 158 year old banking institution Lehman Brothers. First he didn’t recognize it with the stupid comment that the economy is fundamentally sound. Then after the world recognized the seriousness and after the comments made by Mr. Greenspan that this is the economic crisis of the century. After he had a night’s sleep, he woke up with a revelation. He said we are in an economic crisis. Ya think ????? Let’s fire the president’s SEC Chair and then lets put together a 9/11 commission while people are taking boxes out of their ex-jobs. His economic advisor has no plan. McCain himself had no plan and no clue. He may be good at war, and maybe that’s why he keeps trying to start one with Iran and then Russia. He would cripple America. Our lives are affected. We are losing our homes, and our jobs. Banks are failing, so now our investments and pensions are at risk. We have to lowest regulation in years thanks to McCain and Gramm, but we are in the worst shape since 1929. This is serious. This is not a joke.
Obama for President, because some of what McCain does and says is not funny. It is just scary !!!!!!!!
They ignored the America people and their suffering for Eight Years. On November 4th, we will Ignore Them. OBAMA/BIDEN 2008 – When America Fights Back !!!!

It really surprises me how ignorant the American people are and how willing they are to remain ignorant. It also is amazing to me that people will vote for someone merely based on party although that vote may mean the election of someone who may destroy their lifestyles if not their very lives. People are more than willing to listen to words rather than look at actions, I guess because they believe ignorance is bliss or they simply don’t care (I don’t know which is worse). Yet ignorance led to the rise of Hitler, World War II, the Holocaust, the rise of Fidel Castro, Idi Amin, and the list goes on.
So many people on this site are willing to shove Obama’s associations under the rug because he’s 1) a democrat, 2) McCain has had his fair share of scandals, and 3) the economy collapsed under Republicans. Number One is inarguable, every one votes along party lines unless something truly scares them about their party candidate or the other guy really connects with them on a particular issue. The second argument holds some water: McCain has had his share of scandals (the main one I hear about is the Keating 5 of which McCain was largely exonerated and happened 20 years ago). There are a couple others and if these scandals truly concern you then Obama’s should as well, but party lines tend to blind you. McCain’s people will turn a blind eye to his scandals and Obama’s people will turn a blind eye to Obama’s scandals. The third argument I could write a paper on. The main points though are that the financial crisis did not occur just because of Republicans. It occurred because of the actions, rules, regulations, and good ole boy reciprocity that the American people have allowed to happen over a thirty-year period under both republicans and democrats.
Now many of you may believe that you have figured me out and that I’m a McCain supporter and will therefore just blow me off, right smears about me or just go on another McCain smear. That is not the truth because I am not voting FOR either of these candidates. I will McCain down on my ballot because I believe Obama is the worse of the two evils, but I do not truly support McCain. I hope the day will come when I can vote for someone that I do support and who I believe will ACT in the best interests of the American people and not just one demographic, but all demographics.
But let me ask you this since the majority of the people on this site are Obama supporters. How can you believe that Obama is not a radical leftist who supports those who hate Americans and Jews when 1) he got to his position through the support of corrupt individuals, unrepentant terrorists, and organizations that use intimidation to gain power. It’s not just Rezko (slum lord), Ayers (who was not convicted because of legal technicalities), Wright and Flager (prechers of hate who shame their positions). It is also the fact that Obama gave $70,000 to Rashid Khalidi (former President of the Arab American Action Network), who worked on behalf of an organization that sponsored terrorism against Jews. By associating with these people, gaining power through them, and then minimizing his relationship with these immoral individuals and their activities, Obama legitimizes their power and ideals. He therefore passively supports those hate filled activities and words even if he does not outright condone them. These people: Rezko, Ayers, Wright, Flager, Khalidi, and others do not deserve any respect or power and yet Obama shows respect to these people and legitimizes their actions, thus giving them more power. While I have concerns about McCain, his actions and associations do not scare me the way Obama’s does and people have a reason to be terrified if Obama is elected President.
Again if this truly does not concern you, then what makes you believe Obama will be an effective President? He worked as a community organizer/lobbyist for years where he received millions of dollars to fund projects in Chicago. Yet during that time poverty, crime rates, and schools did not improve. Instead Obama just wasted millions of tax payer dollars, while furthering his career and the careers of corrupt individuals.
A person’s past shows you how a person will act in the future but basically the majority of the people on this site would rather ignore Obama’s past and focus on his words that contradict his actions. I guess again for many of you, ignorance is bliss.

Aww poor lil Obama! He is finaly being called out for the unpatriotic hater that he is. Get ready ready to rumble! The truth is now comming out. And you thought we were so stupid as to let you get into office? Yeah right! You want to destroy our way of life, and will say anything to get in. You have blackemailed, threatened, intimidated far too long. The American people will be told the truth. McCain did not fight for our country and get stuck in a POW camp just to let you take over this county. No way NO how No O

McCain is an angry, bitter, grumpy old man who was outright ignorant and disrespectful to both the moderator and Obama. He tried to answer his two minutes and take Obama’s minutes as well rambling about stories he’s told 5 billion times. I think I will throw up if I hear him say that I did not get Ms Congeniality one more time. No, you got Mrs. Congeniality because you and Bush are the same. Eight years of ignoring the people is enough. On November 4th it will be our turn to ignore you. OBAMA/BIDEN 2008
As witnessed during the debate the McCain plan is essentially $300 billion in new tax breaks, $200 billion for big corporations, $100 billion for the very wealthy, and 100 million Americans are LEFT OUT out. It’s more of the same. Eight years of ignoring the people is ENOUGH! On November 4th it will be OUR TURN TO IGNORE YOU! OBAMA/BIDEN 2008

Sean Hannity talks patriotism but never served in the military. He has repeatedly distorted, exaggerated and outright lied! He has no credibility. The only one’s listening to him are the one’s who believe what they want to believe. He’s preaching to the choir. The choir has had some defections lately. Many know Palin was a foolish pick.

I used to defend McCain to my liberal leaning friends… now they just call me to laugh about my previous positive remarks regarding his character. McCain has really let me down… I thought he was better than this. He could withstand torture in Vietnam to maintain his character. But now, he is trading that character for a shot at the White House. It’s obvious this isn’t the same person. I won’t be voting for him.

Obama was 8. No kidding. This is about a guy who did bad things when Obama was 8. Seriously. That’s the big scandal. Can you say DESPERATE???????

The Committees for Correspondence for Democracy and Socialism (CCDS)
Democratic Socialists of America (DSA)
Communist Party USA (CPUSA)
All three organisations are backing Barack Obama

The NEW YORK TIMES (Obama and ’60s Bomber: A Look Into Crossed Paths, Published: October 3, 2008) article that Sarah Palin referenced, states that:
even some conservatives who know Mr. Obama said that if he was drawn to Ayers-style radicalism, he hid it well. “I saw no evidence of a radical streak, either overt or covert, when we were together at Harvard Law School,” said Bradford A. Berenson, who worked on the Harvard Law Review with Mr. Obama and who served as associate White House counsel under President Bush. Mr. Berenson, who is backing Mr. McCain, described his fellow student as “A PRAGMATIC LIBERAL” whose moderation frustrated others at the law review whose views were much farther to the left.
Radicalism is not a trait that one can effectively hide for DECADES. Republicans are trying to distort who he is. Furthermore it would be STUPID to insinuate that Obama is a secret racist because he is half-white, and was raised by his beloved white relatives. That would be like accusing someone who is half-Jewish of being an Anti-Semite. It makes no sense!
As far as his patriotism goes…Given what happened to Medgar Evers, Martin Luther King Jr., John F. Kennedy and Robert F. Kennedy, politicians who challenged the status quo of the 1960s “Joe Six-Pack” American society, Barack Obama must love America a heck of a lot to run for the Presidency of the United States to begin with. Sarah Palin’s accusations, especially in the last days of this campaign, are criminally negligent and endanger his life even further. THE McCAIN CAMPAIGN IS PAINTING A BIG FAT TARGET ON HIS BACK! We can’t let them get away with this.

It should come as no surprise that Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was a Republican. In that era, almost all black Americans were Republicans. Why? From its founding in 1854 as the anti-slavery party until today, the Republican Party has championed freedom and civil rights for blacks. And as one pundit so succinctly stated, the Democrat Party is as it always has been, the party of the four S’s: Slavery, Secession, Segregation and now Socialism.

ayers acts–unrepentant acts–speak to his character. bho’s affiliation with ayers speaks volumes about his character…

All I have to say to McCain backers, pay no attention to the polls, they are purposely swayed to make it seem meaningless for us to go out and vote. Do not take the bait, get out and vote, and spread the word as well! Star Tribune had Obama up 18% in MN today, when Survey USA had McCain up 47/46 just 2 days ago. A little research and you find that the poll consisted of 46% dems and 26% reps. DO NOT TAKE THE BAIT, GET OUT AND VOTE, TELL YOUR FRIENDS!

I am so sick of the Obamabots lying their bottoms off claiming deregulation caused the subprime bubble and bailout. Newsflash, it was do to the libs pushing CRE forcing banks to give loans to people with bad credit. To make it worse another one of the libs nightmares Freddie and Fannie basically guarantee taxpayers would rebuy these bad mortgages from all banks including bad ones that set about to make millions/billions $$$$ off lining bad credit risks from illegals, bad zip code properties, from people with no money down and people who have low credit scores for not paying their bills such as druggies and anyone else they could dig out from under a rock. If a bank dared refuse to give a bad loan Obama’s community activitist ACORN would sue and black mail the banks—even the banks complied, Acorn with attorneys like obama, would basically threaten lawsuits shakedown the banks into donating to them. Subprime bubble is due to subprime—the reason subprime loans were given is because the government required it due to CRE, Fannie and Freddie made money off it, and community organizers (Obama) made money off it.

“It should come as no surprise that Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was a Republican. In that era, almost all black Americans were Republicans.”
In that era, the Republican party more closely resembled what the Democratic party stands for today.
If you honestly think that the fatcat, Nixon-era arrogant neocons like Bush/Cheney have any connection to Black Americans today, then you haven’t been paying attention to the poll numbers.

Cincyr: News flash, Obama does not care about the little guy, which showed when he had to read the name off the bracelet he was wearing during the debate.

spacerook1 spewed: “I’m tired of seeing these so called independents spewing the Democratic Party talking points.
Anyone voting for Barack Hussein Obama is insane.”
More fear and insults from the GOP.
Typical.
But hey – I’m going to vote for McCain because “spacerook1″ says I’m insane if I don’t.
LOL.

Posted by: Rich N. | Oct 5, 2008 11:08:52 PM
The only thing they would be scoffing at is that people elected GWB TWICE and IF McCain gets elected, we voted in another idiot. They will wonder what the hell was wrong with us!

When someone states a fact about you–that’s not a smear.Okay they quit hanging out together, Ayers and Obama, when Obama decided to run for president-so technically -he isn’t paling around with him now, after all what would people think.Because Palin told the truth about Obama’s relationship with Ayers, Obama’s camp is saying the attack is racially tinged, give me a break.They have used that race card so many times it’s dog eared–give it up.Who believes that crap ?

John McCain sat on the board of a very right-wing organization, it was the U.S. Council for World Freedom, it was chaired by a guy named John Singlaub, who wound up involved in the Iran contra scandal. It was an ultra conservative, right-wing group. The Anti-Defamation League, in 1981 when McCain was on the board, said this about this organization. It was affiliated with the World Anti-Communist League – the parent organization – which ADL said “has increasingly become a gathering place, a forum, a point of contact for extremists, racists and anti-Semites.”

“What we have here is a failure to disassociate”.
Yours Truly,
Cool Hand McCain

Name one person (except for wife Michelle) that sticks up for Obama and says “I’ve know this guy, he’s honorable, he’s my man?” . . . I’m still waiting. McCain has guys lining up to stand up for him (even Dems, even Biden). Obama’s wingmen have all been ditched – Wright, Rezco, Ayers, etc. Who is this guy?

Doesn’t matter what you think, Obama’s going to win and that’s that. Teachers can talk about why we chose Obama, because the Republicans screwed up the country to the point of a second Great Depression. Be damned hard for Obama to outdo that one.
After he’s elected we’ll show you how to run the country because apparently you didn’t pay attention when Clinton taught you.
Can you imagine Palin running the country? Winking and telling the people of America “I’ll check on that and get back to ya”;)

Hey Kent,
Isn’t there a tad bit of difference between a right wing organization and a left wing terrorist outfit that engaged in bombing campaigns?
“What we have is a failure to disassociate”, Cool Hand McCain

NOVEMBER 5, 2008 = END OF PUMA ERA!!!!!!

McCain leads. 0bama follows.
Yeah, McCain LEADS our troops to WAR and Obama FOLLOWS the news and wants to help the middle class. Which is better?

We don’t have to wait for our great, great grandchildren in a history class years from now to hear about the fools that put the current President in office. We already know.

After Obama and Michelle take over the White House, and the govornment everything will change, a lot of people who is big supporters and will help to elect him, will be going under the bus, and some may even go to some labour camp.
He can not have anyone around him who will be even a slightest treat to his power. The total government picture will be different as we know it. But now he have to use every body he can to get elected.

Hey Tina,
Sounds like you’ve already forgotten history as recently as 2000 and 2004.
“What we have is a failure to disassociate”, Cool Hand McCain

April,
A. Palin’s comment was not a fact, it was a misleading distortion — there is a difference.
B. The Obama camp hasn’t cried racism… that was an article written by an Associated Press reporter which stated that Palin’s comment had an inference of racism. It was not a definitive charge of racism. Look it up yourself, you are on the internet and you seem to want facts.
C. And no… the Obama/Biden campaign and the AP are not the same thing.

Obama can try to soin his way out of this but there’s just too many garbage people he’s friends with. Ayers, Wright, Rezco, his communist father, the list goes on. What does he come up with? The Keating five??? Some petty crap that happened 20 years ago. You know why they don’t talk about it much??? The other 4 were democrats.

wade b:
the bho supporters act just like those that supported hitler…look at his youth groups…look at the kids singing bho songs now, and the black kids in combat fatigues chanting his praises. this has gone far beyond support.
bho is the one running for president. however i would question others associting with ayers. as for universities, they hire all sorts of educators, both sides of the fence.
i do have a problem with having a national holiday, ie a paid day off for people costing the country huge amounts of money, for someone of no more national significance than presidents etc. it is also a ridiculous waste of time and money–re-printing anything on the existing road with new labels, signs, etc., solely to appease one group of individuals–in evry city– using the threat of calling some one racist as you did me for questioning its need. bho has also played the race card. he is the one that brings it up…”no one looks like me on money…did i mention i was black?, they will try to scare you because i am black. mlk would not be pleased with bho’s strategy. i believe he mentioned being judged by the content of character not the color of the skin.

REPUBLICANS = WMD’S (WEAPONS OF MASS DISTRACTIONS)

Since the Dems came to power in Congress in 2006 we have had even higher gas prices, higher unemployment, higher inflation and now this $700 billion bailout which they caused. Even SNL and Alec Baldwin have admitted that. This is not the CHANGE that I want from Barack Hussein Obama.

it’s obvious that the gop is in a desperte state when the even the campaign manager admits that they will resort to personal character attacks…it also goes to show you how idiotic palin and mccains ‘tactics’ and ‘strategies’ are…they could give a flying rat’s ass about the average person’s well being in this country…their avoiding any discussion about foreclosures, healthcare, and the economy because they have no real solutions…and this insane comment that obama is somehow linked to terroists? are you serious? question…wasn’t obama 8 years old? if ayers was such a terroist why is he allowed to teach @ a university? if ayers was such a terroist why is not locked in guatmo down in cuba? if ayers was such a terroist why isn’t he locked up period?! if ayers was such a terroist why isn’t he on the government’s enemy number one list?
i look at these attacks as such…
IT WORKS BOTH WAYS! i hope palin and mccain opens that door…because again it works both ways…and eye for an eye.
palin must have forgotten that her husband endorsed alaska’s succession from the united states right? not only is this the ultimate unpatriotic act but i would substantiate such as treason!

“What does he come up with? The Keating five??? Some petty crap that happened 20 years ago.”
Who are you, Michael Milken?
That “petty crap” was banks playing dice with money that was entrusted to their care – the direct result of de-regulation sponsored by McCain’s economic guru Phil Gramm.
You wouldn’t be singing that tune if you lost your money to this criminal behavior.

Revisionist History, I believe the history books will be very kind to President Bush. I believe he played the hand he was dealt about as well as anyone could. He did not cause the problems, he got us through the problems that we faced.

I hope this starts the end of the republican party. They have practiced fear and smear, slash and burn politics one time too many. I would love to see the look on school girl Sarah and gramps McCain face now.

Nyla: I did answer your question if you care to read my posts. As to Ayers: Ayers was not locked up due to legal technicalities. Ayers did do everything he was accused of. FBI agents who went under cover have given interviews sating that Ayers taught them to make a bomb and told them to blow up certain buildings. As to Obama being 8 years old, Obama is not 8 years old now and he associates with Ayers who still holds the same ideals. Obama and Ayers also worked on projects together to reform schools to teach more radical viewpoints. We do have the papers for that with both Ayers and Obama’s names on them, you just need to look them up. But Ayers is not my major concern as you can read in my previous post. It is rather long, so I doubt you will actually read it.

America’sDestruction
Of course Obama “wants to put more troops into Afghanistan and Pakistan.” That is where the people who attacked us are! And the generals are saying they desparately need more troops to succeed in Afghanistan, but Bush can’t give them any becuase he has them all tied up in Iraq, where the people who attacked us were NOT!!!

How low can a man sink himself in self pity!!
The day after the VP debate I saw John McCain on a campaign stage gleefully asking the audience, “How did she (my girl!) do yesterday”
I asked this question after my daughter’s first piano recital, and also after her first poem recital, when she was 5 years old.
I felt sadness on how low this man can sink in self esteem.
After all, every American with at least a brain the sign of a peanut could see that the VP ‘Debate’ was not a debate at all. When Sen. Biden answered the questions from the moderator from his vast knowledge and experience, Palin was still working on her notes like an elementary school girl, and, with absolute disrespect to the organizers and the moderator of that debate, and with the arrogance of spoiled child, insisted that she wanted to read through all of her notes. I have watched debates before, at several levels. If graded as a debate, Palin would have got an ‘F’ for that performance, because she did not answer any of the questions from the moderator. In a high school debate tournament, a performance like would have invited an automatic ejection after the answer to the 2nd question!
Big TV Ratings – as a network person has pointed out during the Sunday Political Forum, most of the people watched the VP date as an entertainment, not to support Palin by any means. I watched it to see if that event could out her out of her misery, and for my thinking mind, it did more than enough; but she is still standing and firing away insults after insults to Sen. Obama. If not made under the campaign cover, these insulting lies can invite legal hazards. Apparently John McCain wants to pretend he is above such low-ball tactics, but allowing Palin to do such things like a hired hand does not relieve McCain from the responsibility for such acts. Tactics like this will only lower McCain’s esteem further among independent Americans.

if so many think voting against bho is racist, then i am voting aginst his unprepared, un american, unpatriotic racist

Great have them explain all these associations too:
Jeremiah Wright – Black separatist and Mentor.
James Cone – Black Separatist and racist.
Saul Alinsky – Communist ‘Community Organizer’.
William Ayers – Radical anarchist.
Fr.Pfleger – Radical religionist and race baiter.
Louis Farrakhan – Radical Islamist and racist.
Tony Rezco – Convicted felon and thief.
Frank Marshall – Communist and Obama Mentor
Mike Klonsky – leader of the New Communist Movement
Marxists of Chicago Democratic Socialists of America – support Barry
The Committees for Correspondence for Democracy and Socialism (CCDS)
Democratic Socialists of America (DSA)
Communist Party USA (CPUSA)
All three organisations are backing Barack Obama
John Sweeney – president AFL-CIO – Member of the Democratic Socialists Of America

“Imagine our great-great-grandchildren scoffing at our generation in history class while their teacher tells them “yes class, those fools elected Barack Hussein Obama as president even though the voters knew he was associated with an American terrorist. Children, many of the problems we have today are directly attributed to President Obama. Certainly a dark time in American history.”
- – -
Follow up discussion. Yes, class President Obama duped the American public into electing him despite having no significant achievement as an elected official. His presidential aspirations led him to nearly avoid all his duties as an elected official, run for the next office, and write two memoirs. President Obama is a scar on our history.

J-Well the US has been through an attack on 2 major cities, a war on terrorism in 2 countries, 2 hurricanes that forced evacuation of major cities, wild fires, floods in the midwest, a tech bubble bursting, a credit bubble bursting, and high oil prices. New Orleans and Louisiana were run by Democrats who didn;t evacuate the city when they should have. The tech bubble which gave Clinton record revenues, forced Bush to cut taxes which alleviated the affects of the bubble and 9/11. The subprime mess started in the 70s when the Democrats forced banks to lend to unqualified areas if the banks were to expand. The mortgages were securitized during the Clinton Administration. Last Sept Democrats decided student loan lenders were making too much money so they forced the lenders to charge less interest. When the credit crisis hit, lenders decided to back out of student loans. Democrats would admit them made a mistake so they forced the Dept of Education to back the loans. High oil prices are a result of environmentalists controlling drilling since 1981 when Democrats stopped offshore drilling. We have a supply shortage but the Dems continue to oppose drilling. We still have relatively low unemployment rate compared to previous recession. The economy will survive. Bush has done alright considering he has faced more crisis than any President since FDR. He has taken back the power of the Presidency which Democrats whittled away for 40 years. We have not had an attack on the US since 2001. McCain has disagreed with Bush on many occasions and he even disagreed with Reagan on sending troops to Lebanon. He didn’t want to send them. I’m voting for McCain. He has the knowledge and abilities of Biden and more.

Both parties practice fear. Dems are doing it on the economy although they have done nothing to help it for 2 years. Congress approval rating is 17%. That’s lower than Bush’s. All the Dems are doing is bashing Bush. They have no ideas. They’ve gone dirty a long time ago by bashing Bush, now all of a sudden McCain’s campaign says something about Obama’s associations and the left wing media jumps on it.

look in mccain closet you dont wanna know whats inside there he knows his timeing is near so he is getting desperate so he goes very low then he use his polar bear witch to take his attack out

The ONLY (and I do mean ONLY) issues I agree with the republicans on are gun control, foreign policy, and a strong military.
As far as domestic policy and the economy, I usually agree with the democrats. I am no fool of either party but I do believe it’s time for the pendulum to swing…

uh jock, Al Qaeda was in Iraq and if you listen to Patreaus it is important to still be in Iraq. You also need to look at history where we pulled out of countries too early and the situation became worse than before we went in (if this happens we will be responsible for that crisis as well as the Iraq war). While Pakistan and Afghanistan are important our resources are limited and we can’t do everything at once. If we leave Iraq before it stabilizes, Iraq will once again be a breeding ground for Al Qaeda.

NOVEMBER 5TH OBAMA WILL JOIN THE
LOSERS CLUB ALONG WITH KERRY AND THE OTHERS………
“CHANGE”IS A POLITICAL SLOGAN…
OBAMA IS A JOKE……
OBAMA IS A LIAR…….
HE PROMISES UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE,BUT
HE CANNOT DELIVER IT…….
BILL CLINTON LOST THE SAME ISSUE…..
OBAMA WILL RAISE YOUR TAXES TO PAY
FOR HIS SOCIAL PROGRAMS……
OBAMA IS WEAK ON DEFENSE AND FOREIGN POLICY………
I’M AN EX-DEMOCRAT VOTING REPUBLICAN.
McCAIN/PALIN ’08

“Obama can try to soin his way out of this but there’s just too many garbage people he’s friends with. Ayers, Wright, Rezco, his communist father, the list goes on. What does he come up with? The Keating five??? Some petty crap that happened 20 years ago. You know why they don’t talk about it much??? The other 4 were democrats.”
John McCain’s life has been a series of mistakes. Over and over and over he has to recant, backup say he’s sorry, wishes he had done it differently, admitted to activities he wasn’t proud of. The appologies and the wishes for a “do over” go on and on for McCain.
What he has proven over his career in the military and politics is, by his own admission, that he’s wrong about half the time. I want my president to have a better batting average than that. Heck, supporting Bush 95% of the time with his votes is enough to steer me clear of McCain.
But back to the quoted first paragraph, yeah that was a nice association list. Unfortunately, that’s all old news with no illegal activities or relevant associations noted even after months of spin and innuendo. And of course with every news organization in the free world looking for a scoop, nothing damaging was ever turned up.
Hey but when you can’t win on the issues because you’re part of the problem, you have to go back and dig up old stuff that didn’t fly too high in the first place.
It’s about issues. McCain can’t win on the issues. That’s why he and his minions are desperately trying to get everyone’s mind off the economy.

Let me point out of the Keating 5, all the other people that were in it were DEMOCRATS. The special procescutor wanted to drop any charges against him but the Ethics panel, controlled by Democrats thought it would look better if a Republican was among the defendants who were Democrats. ” In November 1990, the Senate Ethics Committee convened to decide what punishment, if any, should be doled out to the Keating Five.”In the case of Senator McCain, there is very substantial evidence that he thought he had an understanding with Senator DeConcini’s office that certain matters would not be gone into at the meeting with (bank board) Chairman (Ed) Gray,”"Moreover, there is substantial evidence that, as a result of Senator McCain’s refusal to do certain things, he had a fallout with Mr. Keating.”But the investigation found that he was the least culpable, along with Glenn. McCain attended the meetings but did nothing afterward to stop Lincoln’s death spiral.In the end, McCain received only a mild rebuke from the Ethics Committee for exercising “poor judgment” for intervening with the federal regulators on behalf of Keating. Still, he felt tarred by the affair.”The appearance of it was wrong,” McCain said. “It’s a wrong appearance when a group of senators appear in a meeting with a group of regulators because it conveys the impression of undue and improper influence. And it was the wrong thing to do.”McCain noted that Bennett, the independent counsel, recommended that McCain and Glenn be dropped from the investigation. I’m sure the truth will not get in the way of Obama supporters.

John McCain and Sarah Palin want to be elected like Republicans but they are trying to avoid discussing issues critical for the American families. And portraying themselves like reformers because they are embarrassed of the last 8 years of the Republicans –Bush Administration Americans want answers to they problems they want better healthcare they want better pay they don’t want just change because that sounds good on election time, they want change from the Bush policies.
The financial institutions are bankrupt. The dollar super weak
The military are stressed out dangerously. Factories and jobs move overseas.
Home owners become homeless. And John McCain worry about the judgment of OBAMA?
McCain is desperate to be a President! He doesn’t see the disaster of Iraq coming when he vote in favor of War .He support deregulations and then argue about the circus of Wall Street .A person who talk against the Government but he favors the government interference .What you can say about his judgment? Now we know that not only Obama can lead, but also he had a plan for the future of this great country!
Now McCain can snooze tight. Obama can answer the 03.00 am call any time!
Rebublicants can spin like wash machine all day long! The truth is
Senator McCain past actually impairs him from to be flexible and confront the future with open mind. The last days of the campaign confirmed that McCain -Plain are the most inadequate people to run this country!
The same people who gave George Bush a second term should feel responsible for the mess that is occurring today. They are the same ones who today have doubts about the ability of Obama to be a good choice for President. At war the first casualty is the truth. At this electoral race the truth has been killed by McCain and the Rebublicants .

The character of Obama matters because he wants to be President. If Obama wants to friends with shady characters like Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, Farakkan etc then it matters to the American public. Why is Obama running away from his record. If Obama is so confident about his friendship with such people, why does’nt he come clean on it!

That’s it? Thought so……

The proof that Sen. Obama conducts a civilized campaign is that nobody knows about the steamy early years of Sen. McCain, or his wild outbursts in the US Senate against his fellow senators, etc., etc.

America’sDestruction
no you did not answer my question! i don’t care to read your posts because it’s another desperate fearful attempt from the repugnants to smear a candidate that actually gives a damn about the average american in this country…again…you have associated ayers with the likes of osama bin ladin and the like…do you honestly think if the cia, let alone the american government would let off a terroist (after 9/11, by the way) on a technacality?!!! get real…put your fear aside and talk real issues that affecting most americans…poor and middle class the like…we are in a democracy (so far) vote for whomever you chose…it is a choice…if you like the direction the country is going in then put the bitter war monger and the dizzy hockey mom in the white house…if you want change…then vote for obama…it’s your choice…but don’t resort to personal attacks on this man’s character! what palin and mccain are doing is shameful…really very unpatriotic…again i say…let palin open that door…there’s still a lot of skeletons in her closet.

If this guy(Ayers) was a terrorist, why isn’t he in jail? The Republicans are trying the ugly game. I am afraid they will destroy this country. May God help us avoid self distruction.

Posted by: wade_b | Oct 5, 2008 11:35:36 PM
not moaning just responding to your comment. you have no idea what i may know about the mlk holiday evolution.
not worth further discussion to me.
Posted by: John Doe | Oct 5, 2008 11:36:23 PM
global-warming has been shown not to be solely the fault of man. there is a climate chage component. bho folks started many of the palin rumors, on of which was the intelligent design comment–un true–, one being the aig membership–untrue–, one being that she was covering for her daughter by claiming trig as her own when the daughter had him–untrue, etc. if roe v wade is overturned the abortion issues goes back to the states. the issue of character is of issue in this election BECAUSE of bho associations. bho was registered in indonesia for school as being muslim and indonesian. interesting to mention nazi’s in the same breath as bho. his followers look more and more like the mindless followers that idolized hitler every day. bho was a aprt of acorn, as an organizer and lawyer. it is acorn that helped him win the caucases in the primary, and acorn that is fraudulently registering and then voting under false names. they are charged with multiple voter fraud violations across the country.

PUMA doesn’t exist. It’s a figment created by the Republican party and a handful of activist democrats who care more about their 15 minutes of fame than their country.
It’s not statistically relevant. But you can pretend we don’t all know you’re a white republican pretending to be a black democrat who thinks “Obama did nothing for African Americans.”
It’s a blog; you can pretend to be a gnome wizard for all I care.

The whole world looks at us and see if would redeem ourselves from the stupid, reckless acts of last 8 years, by a president whose only successful act was to sell hate and lies to get elected twice.
Are we so smart to ignore the feedback we are getting from the whole world?
Or are we simply stupid to be swayed by the smear campaings?
If we consider some who has problem in saying few sentences coherently in her mother tongue, to be our leader, then we have a problem folks!
You cannot vote for Hillary; and if you are patriotic, for God’s sake, just suppress your racial feelings for this time, and give Obama and Biden a chance before GOP would turn this country to hell-hole detached from the rest of the world.

Posted by: Dave | Oct 5, 2008 11:49:58 PM
ayers and dorhn escaped jail on a technicality of prosecutorial misconduct.

Posted by: Democrats No More | Oct 5, 2008 11:47:39 PM
I was a staunch Hillary supporter who WILL vote for Obama.

IT’S JUST AMAZING HOW MUCH HATE THERE IS IN 2008 ALL ON DISPLAY FOR THE WORLD TO SEE & WITNESS…AMERICA, THE BEACON AND EXPORTER OF DEMOCRACY, CIVIL RIGHTS, HUMANITY, EQUALITY & YOU KNOW…ALL THAT MANURE! AND JUST AS AMAZING HOW SO MANY ON HERE TRY LIKE IDIOTS TO PASS OFF THEIR HATRED, IGNORANCE & BIGGOTRY IN PERFECTLY WRAPPED, PERFECTLY TIED & REHEARSED PROPAGANDA, LIES & SMEARS…AND CALL IT CONSERVATIVE “VALUES” FOR LACK OF A MORE INTELLIGENT OR BETTER NAME. TOO BAD THEIR ISN’T ENOUGH “LIPSTICK” TO GO AROUND!

Seth.
I DIDN’T TRASH BILL CLINTON……
I VOTED FOR BILL CLINTON TWICE….
I SAID: BILL CLINTON LOST THE HEALTH
CARE ISSUE REGARDLESS HIS POPULARITY.
READ MY POST CAREFULLY…….
…AND YES I’M AN EX-DEMOCRAT.I LEFT
THE PARTY THE DAY AFTER HILLARY DROPPED
OUT OF THE RACE……

Senility has set in; Desperation is in the air; Lies and demagoguery are the order of the day in the McCain-Palin Campaign. It would be amusing if it were not for the fact that McCain is running to be the president of the United States of America with a running mate with links to the Alsakan Independence Party. America First? or is it Alaska first, and Always?

Foxy Sarah Palin she isn’t good enough to make independent voters to vote for McCain. But she’s good enough to make her new sleazy smear attack against Obama .
The question is if this old block becomes the next President and die? You will be the next commander in chief? YOU MUST BE JOCKING?
Joe Biden was chosen for VP, for his honesty free spirit and his experience!
He’s supposed to make a point when is needed. Sarah Plain was chosen for the position after only one meeting .The decisive factor was only the women’s vote and the prerequisite to be the John McCain cheerleader. She makes only scripted interviews and has very thin Resume. Sarah Plain VP? Thanks but not thanks!

Actually, Ayers never bombed anything himself, and none of them ever killed any innocent people. They were trying NOT to hurt anyone. No, that doesn’t excuse what they did, but it hardly puts him in the same league with bin Laden.
Some perspective please, people?

Posted by: Seth | Oct 5, 2008 11:54:20 PM
sorry seth, not the first one to make the comparison. look at the posted videos of young children singing to bho and the young black men dressed in fatiques, chanting to obama….there are HUGE similarities. many have made him in do deity.

Nicholas,
Thanks you. Democrats for McCain
please google: The Confluence

If Ayers is a terrorist, Sarah & Todd Palin are terrorists too.
Does anyone know of Sarah Palin’s association with radical elements in Alaska asking for independence from the US. The party has lobbied since the 1970s for the right to hold a referendum on whether Alaska should secede from the United States. Its motto, “Alaska First”, contrasts sharply with the John McCain campaign slogan: “Country First.”
It seeks “the complete repatriation of the public lands, held by the federal government, to the state and people of Alaska” and aims to be “self-sufficient” by using profits from Alaskan oil and gas resources. It claims that the vote held in 1958 which led to Alaska becoming the 49th state of the US was corrupt and did not offer a proper choice.
While it is thought that Mrs Palin officially left the party to become a Republican in 1996, she recorded an address for its convention earlier this year in which she said: “I share your party’s vision of upholding the constitution of our great state” and told members to “keep up the good work”. So much for “country first”.

10- Yes, good old crazy uncle Wright! Who can forget him? Prepare to see “Wright reloaded.”
_______________________________________
Since YOU went there, what about Pastor Muthee? Why, isn’t that Sarah’s witchdoctor pastor, who goes around from country to contry ‘casting out’ witches, warlocks, demons, and evil spirits?
Wait, wasn’t Sarah’s pastor Muthee seen doing a ritual cleansing on Sarah in a clip floating around the Internet? Wait, Sarah is a witch? Geesh, what’s Sarah gonna do now that Pastor Muthee will be too busy casting out demons etc, this October to give her ANOTHER witch cleansing? Sarah better find another witch doctor who does ‘ritual cleansing’ to fill in for her current witch doctor who’ll be overseas no doubt looking for witches, warlocks, and demons no doubt (lol)…
That Crazy Uncle Muthee (lol)……………..

Foxy Sarah Palin she isn’t good enough to make independent voters to vote for McCain. But she’s good enough to make her new sleazy smear attack against Obama . …
Good comments.
Independents are what they are because they are people who can think, not follow like idiots.

Posted by: Joseph L | Oct 5, 2008 11:57:14 PM
what is in a name…..maybe “barry soetoro?”

This birth certificate crapola annoys me. Dang. It is a non issue.
There is no “long form” as opposed to “short form” for any birth certificate I have ever seen. Sheesh, it’s not a copyright.
Berg is an opportunist trying to pass a frivolous lawsuit off as some major event.
Who knows, maybe he’ll get a book deal… then he’ll need that copyright paperwork.

McCain is starting to sweat as the polls show Obama is pulling way ahead of him at 51% to McCain’s 39%, so McCain is stooping to his typical under handedness, by hitting Obama below the belt with his unethical lies about him. McCain ought to be focusing on the real problems in America, and what he is going to do about them if elected, and not just how he can slander Obama. He continuously shows his true colors, and has no idea how the common folk live, and how they are struggling just to keep what little they have, while him and his wife flaunt their wealth of owning seven houses. He is a joke, just like Bush.

dassis- McCain admits his mistakes- he takes the blame for the breakup of his marriage and he did not like his behaviour in the keating affair. Obama never admits mistakes unless the media is on him. And the media loves him. His continued association with Ayers, Rezko, Wright is an example of his bad judgement. The media doesn’t like to to do any investigative journalism on Obama so the McCain campaign has no choice but to let the public know the truth.

Funny (?) we should find ourselves in a banking crisis again with big Mac in the middle. For a refreasher . . . just how embroiled Mac was in the last banking crisis . . . a la Wikipedia:
The Keating Five were five United States Senators accused of corruption in 1989, igniting a major political scandal as part of the larger Savings and Loan crisis of the late 1980s and early 1990s. The five senators, Alan Cranston (D-CA), Dennis DeConcini (D-AZ), John Glenn (D-OH), John McCain (R-AZ), and Donald W. Riegle (D-MI), were accused of improperly aiding Charles H. Keating, Jr., chairman of the failed Lincoln Savings and Loan Association, which was the target of an investigation by the Federal Home Loan Bank Board (FHLBB).
The result of the collapse of Lincoln Savings and Loan was that 21,000 mostly elderly investors lost their life savings. After a lengthy investigation, the Senate Ethics Committee determined in 1991 that Alan Cranston, Dennis DeConcini, and Donald Riegle had substantially and improperly interfered with the FHLBB in its investigation of Lincoln Savings. Senators John Glenn and John McCain were cleared of having acted improperly but were criticized for having exercised “poor judgment”.
McCain didn’t go to jail, but he wasn’t far from it.

Obama deserves to be smeared…How dare anyone impugn his character…

What P U M A is saying about race baiting Obamabots:
“Sarah Palin Yep. She’s a racist, because she criticized Barack Obama. I will never vote for Obama and I was a Hillary supporter.”
“Smart people learn from all races and nationalities.
Each has something to contribute to the well being of all.
Judging someone that you do not know is plain dumb.
But not everyone in any race is a good person.
Judge people for who they are the good, and the bad.
Making excuses for bad behavior is just as condescending and insulting as racism.
This the first election cycle that I have been accused of racism because I want the best for my county and in my opinion that is NOT BARACK OBAMA”
“As for charges of r*cism, if there’s one thing this election season has shown, it’s the desperate need of so many on the left to prove their Impeccable Liberal Credentials by hurling accusatory remarks at others on the left. It’s no wonder we have only the shreds of a DNC political party remaining. McCain/Palin 2008. I will vote repub for the first time in my life”
“Frankly, the whole racism charge against former Hillary supporters is becoming utterly meaningless. Just another conspiracy theory at this point – fabricated and propagated by those who see evil all around and now find it closing in on them. Perhaps everyone needs to examine their own demons and leave others out of it.”
P U M A
You called us prejudiced and we are.

The Keating 5 mess should have landed McCain in jail. Stop being a closet racist and accept the fact that you will have Senator Obama as your President. McCain is no hero. He dropped bombs on children and women during his raids. He caught caught. He survived with the help that his dad was an Admiral. There are 55 thousand who did not make it back. Those are my heroes. McCain was so deep in with Keating it is a shame. The trips to the Bahamas and his wife’s investment. Durty Politricks. He was called the wimp by Keating. His politicopal bedfellow called in his favors after contributing hundreds of thousands to McCain. The result was the lost of 3.4 billion of taxpayers money and about 190 million of Keatings S and L ‘s customers money. This was his bedfellow as a Senator. Barack was 8 years old when that other mess occured. McCain is on vapors so attack character. What about leaving his first wife for the other trophy. Now he has the republican viagra in Ms. Congeneality in Carribu Barbe Palin. Get real America , Barack is a natural leader with smarts and a vision. Get on Board, even if you are a biggot.

Senator Obama must answer to the revelations linking him to radical associations if he is going to be our commander and chief. The media has made us quite aware of every detail of Senator Mccain’s life, and it’s only fair that Senator Obama receives the same treatment. We heard enough fluff from the Obama camp. It’s now time to come out with the facts. Contrary to claims that this issue serves as a distraction from substance, this issue is critical in that it shares the ideology of the Democratic presidential candidate and places him under the scrutiny of the American public where he must answer to us.

“Dem No More”,
WHY are you voting for McCain, even though you allegedly supported Hillary?
You know he holds a completely opposite position than Hillary on every issue.
The ONE thing they have in common is they’re both white.
I’ll try to take your word that you aren’t racist. But a reason why McCain is so swell would sure help.
ANd no, anti-Obama FoxNews quotes don’t cut it. Try to think of one (1) positive thing that both McCain and Hillary have in common. (hint: skin color doesn’t count in this exercise)
(bonus points if you don’t include the word “maverick”)

It is a Pandora’s Box If they start attacking Obama. What about Cindy McCain’s past drug use, what about Cindy flirting with McCain when he was still married to his first wife. What about Charlie Black? What about Keating five? What about McCain association with Phil Gramm?
McCain has a lot to answer for and the gloves are off now. Read about Phil Gramm’s involvement in the current mortgage crisis and you’ll be sick.

Beatrice – do you mean GRANDpapa McCain?

McCain’s volatile temper became legendary in Congress and how he uses expletive-laced words in an attempt to demean and destroy his critics.
McCain’s cooperation with his captors and realize why many veterans wonder why McCain was not punished for making treasonous statements to the communists.
Sampley, a long-time POW/MIA activist delves into McCain’s puzzling relationship with his former captors and his apparent abandonment of other Americans left behind in Vietnam as missing or prisoners of war.
Leaders of the POW/MIA movement describe how they fought to have McCain and the U.S. government investigate reported sightings of missing and imprisoned military members, and describe their contemptuous treatment by McCain and his staff.
‘Vetting John McCain’ uncovers how the senator’s impressive family background protected him as the Navy ignored incidents that should have caused the young aviator to be drummed out of the Navy. The book compares McCain’s behavior with a similar incident that cost a female Navy aviator her career.
‘Vetting John McCain’ compares McCain’s actions with those of other captives who, injured and ill, spat in the faces of their captors and attempted escapes through treacherous jungle territory. It explores his intimate connection to the infamous Lincoln Savings and Loan scandal, his backing by a fraudulent newspaper editor-publisher, and his speedy abandonment of his friend when the fire of public scrutiny grew too hot.

John McCain,s Keating trumps one million Ayers. McCain was knee deep in it and should have been sent to jail. The Keating 5 says it all for that country first/last, fake talk express,, man without a questionable pass McCain He was on Keating’s payroll and his loan got called in by the God Father- Keating himself. If the Fed’s did not step in when they did, he would have gone down with Keating. Dont buy the hype. McCain is durty.

I am an independant and I’m voting for McCain!!!

McInsain and Dufus Palin, how stupid can 2 people be, go on and use the palling around with terrorist card. while the country is in a shambles. These repub don’t care about nobody but them selves, constant job lost, high food cost, high gas cost, high health care, you name it and we got it. You have to be dump as hell to vote for the same old crap that we have been getting for the last 8 yrs. I am sick to death of this BS, If you guys want to be sleeping on Silly Sarah’s bridge to nowhere go on and vote for old sleep at the switch Mcsame & crazy bird Joe 6 pack!!!!1

Oops. I meant to say:
The Keating Five accomplished their ends, making millions for savings and loans executives nationwide, while slamming investors. The institutions they raped include this ONE:
“The result of the collapse of Lincoln Savings and Loan was that 21,000 mostly elderly investors lost their life savings. ”
This was ONE, ONE that fleeced 21,000 of their life savings . . . unfortunately, Mac didn’t just fleece one, he fleeced thousands. If one institution left 21,000 high and dry, how many elderly investors were left with nothing by the rest?

They portray themselves as mavericks because they are embarrassed to talk about the last eight years with the worst president in history. What will happen on the eve of the election? Will a Bin Laden video appear to try to frighten Americans to vote Republican again? Will they use their handy friend Bin Laden in their campaign again? And how can anyone trust the electronic voting machines? The Irish dismissed the system because it could not be trusted. There is no paper trail with the voting machines. Therefore no way of manually counting the votes.
Only one man can restore America’s standing in the world. Obama. In one month the world could change for the better, if the American people send a clear message that they do not want more fear, more aggression, more isolation, more intolerance.
Most of the world will hold its breath and hope that America will once again become the sort of country it once was before Bush, so bridges of goodwill can be rebuilt and the rogue state can find its sanity, not just for the sake of America, but for the whole planet.

$$$’s- Do you think Franks and Dodd might be responsible when they stopped Mccains attempt at reforming Freddie and Fannie a couple of years ago. Franks said Freddie and Fannie were rock solid. Dodd got the most contribitions from Fannie and Freddie and Obama got the 2nd largest contributions. But I guess that is ok becuase the Dems can do no wrong. Hypocrits!

I spent the last two years of High School in a daze- drank beer heavily and tried drugs enthusiastically.
- Barack Hussein Obama

There is absolutely no doubt that Obama was associated closely……
Posted by: liberati | Oct 5, 2008 6:16:25 PM
________________________
Seems like a whole lot of “guilt by association” to me and not one bit of proof that Obama himself ever did a thing that would demonstrate disloyalty to his country. In my some countries they kill someone based solely on “guilt by association,” so I would never endorse anything like that. I would think if you, or any other racist Republicans had proof Obama himself ever participated in a disloyal act, you or someone like you would have proof of it. If no proof, it’s just a baseless charge that no one with a brain would even repeat.

Regardless of where you get your talking-points, a vote for McCain is a vote against women’s reproductive rights. I mean, if you’re anti-choice, that’s fine, but that’s not terribly in line with Hillary.
And you are aware of Joe Biden’s strong activism on behalf of women, right?
You’re certainly welcome to vote however you want, but your best efforts would be in supporting an Obama administration and calling for strong women in key positions in his administration, supporting women candidates for the House and Senate, and promoting women issues in ballot initiatives.
I won’t deny that there was a media bias against Hillary, but I also will point out that most of those acting the most sexist towards her were conservatives and FoxNews. By voting for McCain you reward their sexism.

jschmidt
Of course the Republicans and the Democrats all had a hand in it…. but the people who did the real damage, that was outlined in my post.

P U M A
is diverse
“Another black woman who will not vote for Obama, here.”
“Being a black voter they can not call me a racist for not voting for Obama ”
“My cousin (to me): No self respecting black person would vote for Hillary Clinton. Hillary is a woman but she is a white woman.
People this is racism.
I did by the way tell her that I am McCain /Palin.
96% of blacks are for Obama
Behold me:One of the 4% who are not.”
African Americans for P U M A
Never Obama

The only ones convicted in the Keating 5 were all Democrats taking bribes! Yea, lets bring up The Keating 5, even Obama knows there’s no story there. Or as Bill Clinton would say”There Is No There, There”

dassis- Obama has a much more cozy relationship with Ayers- his mere association with Ayers should disqualify him. He was never vetted by the power hungry Democratic party. He is not qualified to be President given his inexperience, his lack of leadership credentials as evidence by his unwillingness to have 1 committee meeting of the Senate Foreign Relations subcomittee on Afghanistan. He seems to have always taken care of his friends when it come to giving them taxpayer money whether it is for failed housing projects or failed schools. He has no record of reaching across the aisle to work in a bipartisan fashion and McCain does. And he has voted 97% with the Democratic Party and is supported by MoveOn and Daily Kos- not the sign of a moderateWe will never agree on this but will continue to disagree, respectfully.

When McCain returned to the United States in 1973 after more than five years as a prisoner of war, he found his wife was a different person. Carol McCain, once a model, had been badly injured in a car wreck in 1969. The accident “left her 4 inches shorter and on crutches, and she gained a good deal of weight.” Despite her injures, she had refused to allow her POW husband to be notified about her condition, fearing that such news would not be good for him while he was being held prisoner.
But, just a couple years later, McCain, while pondering a future in politics, met Cindy Hensley, an attractive 25-year-old woman from a very wealthy politically-connected Arizona family. While still married to Carol, McCain began an adulterous relationship with Cindy. He married Cindy in May 1980 — just a month after dumping his crippled wife and securing a divorce.

I voted Republican the first time I voted. I voted for Bush in 00.
I really regret casting my vote for Bush in 2000. I had no idea he would be as bad as he ended up being. I thought he would be like Bush Sr. And the tax cut really appealed to me.
Since then, I made sure I didn’t repeat that mistake.
I used to have a lot of respect for John McCain. I still want to, and I hope he redeems himself in the senate next year and puts all this behind him.
It’s disappointing to see the smears and dishonest and disgraceful negative ads. I always expected more of him, but I guess it’s hard to turn around a losing campaign. This won’t work, but I know he doesn’t have anything better.
It’s just sad when people you look up to disappoint you so greatly.

It seems to me that the Republican motives in their smear campaign is successful. Almost every post on this site mentions the scurrilous charges made by these people, and very few of you mention the real issues we face as Americans,i.e., the economy, the wars, social security, etc. Don’t let these turkeys win by falling into their trap: Talk about the ISSUES!

Obama/Biden = dumb and dumber

jschmidt…
Obama used Ayers to get campaign money? Are you talking about the reported gathering at his house that was arranged by another state senator — I don’t have the whole story at my fingertips, it’s in the NYT article — and Ayers’ $200 donation?
By the time this happened Ayers was a respected academic (whether you agree with the respect is irrelevant, his community is relevant)…. and was in no way acting as a terrorist.
If I was held accountable for everything I did during the sixties, I’d be considered a completely different person than I am now. I have grown, learned and turned away from a lot… no, I never bombed a building, but I’ll tell you and you go after me all you want… I was opposed to that immoral, despicable war as much as anyone.
I along with Senator Obama do not condone Ayers (and company)’s acts — but I choose to forgive and I choose to know people as they are today.
You lose on this one if you continue to condemn. Without grace we are all equally fallen.

Well let’s talk about John McCain, the enemy collaborator, guilty of giving aid to the north Vietnamese. Yet, while many of his fellow captives were corp marshaled and drummed out of the service, because McCain was the son of an Admiral he was given a pass. American hero my A#*! Let’s talk about that… Now that’s a conversation that Americans should be having.

Obama = the new Malcom X

Darragh Murphy is the founder and executive director of Puma …….
she is just another version of
Ann Coulter

It isn’t a “smear” campaign if it lists facts, is it? Just because the MSM has refused to vet Obama, much like they did George Bush in 2000, doesn’t mean that the facts coming out about him on the blogs are incorrect, just that we have a biased media interested in only one thing, the election of Barack Obama as POTUS. Why has Obama been allowed to seal all his records from Columbia and Harvard? Why has Obama been allowed to present one paragraph of medical records when John McCain produced 1000 pages? Why has the MSM not called for his records from 8 years in the Illinois Senate that he claims to have “lost”? Why hasn’t he been questioned about his chairmanship of the $150 million Chicago Annenberg Challenge, and why he doesn’t even list it on his already thin resume? There are just too many secrets about Obama’s past, and the MSM’s failure to investigate any of this is not just biased, it is criminal.

The main thing that scares me about McCain and Palin is how they always defend the situation America has gotten into economically, and especially in defending this war in Iraq, which as been the main cause of our economic situation here in America. It is a flashback for me from the Vietnam era, when our government leaders continually supported this war, while they kept our troops in a no win situation. This is “blind patriotism” and it is when our leaders refuse to admit they have been wrong, or they remain in complete denial. This is the way McCain and Palin come across to me, as supporting the wrong cause, just because the other side is for a different cause.

I hear Obama is going to bring up Keating 5, awesome! The main part of that story is the 4 Democrats that were found guilty of kick backs, and McCain was found to have done nothing wrong. I know because I live in Arizona and we followed the case closely…….

America would lose all influence with other nations if Sarah were VP (or worse yet, prez.) Sarah would be treated like the joke she is by other world leaders. The only person in the world not dumb enough to realize what a joke Sarah is–is Sarah herself. I almost feel sorry for her.

Obama scares the heck out of me.

My fellow Americans, you have just witnessed the end of the USA and the constitution if this is allowed to go unchallenged. Our so called Representatives have, against expressed desires of those they swore to represent, blatantly sold us and our children into slavery. The SCAM BAILOUT bill will not cure the problem. It will compound it. There are three things to do. Mount a Constitutional challenge, vote each who is up for reelection and voted yes out of office, and start recalls on those who are not up for reelection this election. Save THE USA while we still have the time. To say I am throughly disappointed and discussed, is an under statement. The true feeling is much like the feelings I have had putting fallen comrades in body bags. Those who voted for this, PORK BARREL SCAM BAILOUT, have put The USA and The Constitution in a body bag.
Do you wonder why the DOW went down after the vote for the SCAM BAILOUT? Because it marked the end of free representative America! Communism is bad for business !

John and Sarah are awesome!!!!!

Posted by: Seth | Oct 6, 2008 12:34:55 AM
exactly what women’s rights would we be loosing? the dems have hung abortion over women’s heads as a reason to vote dem for too long. that is not the only issue woman care about. overturning roe v wade would simply send the issue of abortion to the states, not abolish it.
mccain was strong enough to choose a woman for his running mate, something bho did not have the nerve to do even though hillary got half the dems votes. bho ran the most sexist campaign of late. there is no way he respected women.
liberals…of which i was one…have somehow come to define a feminist or progressive , independant woman simply by her stand on abortion. Palin represents all a feminist stands for…decisions, family, job, stature, etc. she is a true feminist by nature of the word.

Barack Obama = Radical liberal

For those too young to know or remember. Change for the sake of change is seldom for the better. 1975-76 the U.S. was in turmoil, and people were demanding change. An obscure young man with good credentials(exceptional credentials compared to the aspirants today) championed the cause.1975 Carter sensed that the mood of the country was anti-Washington and that people were interested in a candidate offering change.On assuming office in 1977, President Carter inherited an economy that was slowly emerging from a recession. He had severely criticized former President Ford for his failures to control inflation and relieve unemployment, but after four years of the Carter presidency, both inflation and unemployment were considerably worse than at the time of his inauguration. The annual inflation rate rose from 4.8% in 1976 to 6.8% in 1977, 9% in 1978, 11% in 1979, and hovered around 12% at the time of the 1980 election campaign. Although Carter had pledged to eliminate federal deficits, the deficit for the fiscal year 1979 totaled $27.7 billion, and that for 1980 was nearly $59 billion. With approximately 8 million people out of work, the unemployment rate had leveled off to a nationwide average of about 7.7% by the time of the election campaign, but it was considerably higher in some industrial states.
Carter also faced a drastic erosion of the value of the U.S. dollar in the international money markets, and many analysts blamed the decline on a large and persistent trade deficit, much of it a result of U.S. dependence on foreign oil.
In July 1980, Carter received a favorable rating of only 21% in the Gallup Poll. That was the lowest rating any president, including Richard Nixon at the time of his resignation, had received since polling began in 1936.
When Jimmy Carter left the White House in 1981 and handed the presidency over to Ronald Reagan, he was widely viewed as a failure. Carter, and the nation, had been humiliated by the long ordeal of the Iranian hostage crisis, as well as the botched rescue attempt that left Americans dead in the desert. The Soviets had brazenly invaded Afghanistan, and Carter’s response (including boycotting the 1980 Moscow Olympics) was seen as ineffectual. Carter’s tenure also witnessed an energy crisis, soaring inflation(11-12 percent), and skyrocketing interest rates(21.5 percent). The smiling, confident, fresh-faced Carter of 1976 seemed long gone, replaced by a growing national malaise.
This not to mention the devastated military preparedness and income tax rates. Do we need to re-live this in 2008-2012?
In July 1980, Carter received a favorable rating of only 21% in the Gallup Poll. That was the lowest rating any president, including Richard Nixon at the time of his resignation, had received since polling began in 1936.
When Jimmy Carter left the White House in 1981 and handed the presidency over to Ronald Reagan, he was widely viewed as a failure. Carter, and the nation, had been humiliated by the long ordeal of the Iranian hostage crisis, as well as the botched rescue attempt that left Americans dead in the desert. The Soviets had brazenly invaded Afghanistan, and Carter’s response (including boycotting the 1980 Moscow Olympics) was seen as ineffectual. Carter’s tenure also witnessed an energy crisis, soaring inflation(11-12 percent), and skyrocketing interest rates(21.5 percent).
This not to mention the devastated military preparedness and income tax rates. Do we need to re-live this in 2008-2012?

On 5/25/08, McCain declared, “I received the highest award from literally every veteran’s organization in America.”
But McCain’s opposition to Jim Webb’s (D-VA) 21st Century GI Bill puts him in opposition to the Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America, the American Legion, and the national commander of the Veterans of Foreign Wars.
The recognition McCain has received from veterans groups is not “high awards” but failing grades:
— Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America gave McCain a grade of D for his record of voting against veterans. (By contrast, Obama got a B+.)
– Disabled Veterans of America noted McCain’s dismal 20 percent voting record on veterans’ issues. (Obama had an 80 percent.)

touche- the Dems were in control of Congress for the last 2 years. They did such a great job recognizing the subprime crisis didn’t they? Maybe it was because Freddie and Fannie had Dodd, Franks and Obama in their back pocket. No party should control it all!

Seth if you bothered to read the Confluence you would see that there are P U M A women who are voting for McKinney or Nader, or not voting. That is about 6% of P U M A ‘ s.
Our platform is on our website
or any of the other 5,000 or so P U M A sites.

It sickens me to find a man who is running on his veteran experience to run this country would even have the nerves to vote against military benefits. He truly is a dishonor to our military men and women
2/02/2006Tax Rate Extension Amendment
HR 4297 NO
Senate (44 – 53)
11/17/2005 Additional Funding For Veterans Amendment
S 2020 NO
(43 – 55)
10/05/2005 Health Care for Veterans Amendment
HR 2863 NO Senate
(48 – 51)

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, who has made a crackdown on gift-giving to state officials a centerpiece of her ethics reform agenda, has accepted gifts valued at $25,367 from industry executives, municipalities and a cultural center whose board includes officials from some of the largest mining interests in the state, a review of state records shows.
The 41 gifts Palin accepted during her 20 months as governor include honorific tributes, expensive artwork and free travel for a family member. They also include more than $2,500 in personal items from Calista, a large Alaska native corporation with a variety of pending state regulatory and budgetary issues, and a gold-nugget pin valued at $1,200 from the city of Nome, which lobbies on municipal, local and capital budget matters, documents show.
About a quarter of the entities bestowing gifts on the governor are represented by one of Alaska’s most influential mining lobbyists, who said in an interview that she was not involved in the tributes. The lobbyist, Wendy Chamberlain, has a relationship with the governor’s family through the friendship of their teenage daughters.
On forms disclosing the gifts, Palin, who is the Republican vice presidential nominee, routinely checked “no” when asked whether she was in a position to “take official action that may affect the person who gave me the gift,” and a spokeswoman for Sen. John McCain’s presidential campaign said the gifts had no undue influence on her.

John McCain is a fraud and a fake war hero. Don’t be afraid to look it up yourself republican drones. What’s wrong? Scared the truth will hurt? That you’re backing a traitor to your country? Or don’t you care?

Man I am white and I know exactly what the million man march was about. It was not about Louis Farrakkan getting to know Obama! Clearly there is no ties between Louis Farrakkan and Obama!

P U M A is run by an Ann Coulter impersonator who during interviews is unable to string 2 sentences together without contradicting herself.

Saying that Obama “palling around with terrorists” is a pathetic attempt to play of people’s fears to terrorism, so much for running a clean campaign looks like the McCain ticket is the same old republican running against a democrat with a new coat of paint. What is even more sad than McCain right now is those of you who 1.) think all muslims are terrorist 2.) think that Obama is a muslim. The fact is this Obama is a Christian man through and through yet you want to throw rocks so bad you hold on to your fantasy that he is a muslim so you can justify discriminating against him on election day. You people make me ashamed to be an american citizen.

Unconvinced,
As a Democrat I find it shameful you would attack John McCain, who spent years under torture, by claiming that it has been faked. The case is well documented. If you are going to attack McCain please do it based on policy differences, or judgment claims, not by stooping to low-blows based on make-believe.

P U M A is run by
THE C O N F L U E N C E
What P U M A thinks of bottom feeder Obamabots:
“Sorry bots, but Karl
Rove doesn’t need to play you. Obama already played you. Now you’re bringing your own candidate down by spewing your vile rage and hatred at Sarah Palin. It’s different this time, isn’t it? When you did it to Clinton, nobody (except a bunch of old, menopausal, “low-information” Democratic women) called you on it. Republicans are different from Democrats. They stand up for other Republicans. They play to their base instead of trying to drive it out of the party.
Congratulations. You used slimy smear tactics to win the primary for your candidate. Now you’ll have to figure out how to get him elected without all the people you and he disrespected all through the primaries and during the convention. It couldn’t happen to a better bunch of people.”
P U M A

unconvinced-
No need to trash McCain. Obama will win this election without having to stoop to that kind of dirty politics.
McCain is a war hero and he deserves our respect.
He just doesn’t get our votes by default, and so far he has done nothing in this campaign to earn them. And it doesn’t help that he runs a dirty campaign and is wrong on every issue that matters.

The “American Dream” is not an entitlement, it is an opportunity. For all you Obama supporters who think the man is going to give you free anything, wake up and smell the roses. What did he do for his constituents in the Illinois Senate for 8 years? Nothing, zero, zilch. He fed the corrupt landlords and developers like Rezko off the sweat of his people, left them in substandard housing which is now boarded up, all for his buddy Rezko. Oh, yeah, all is not lost, he and Michelle got the house in Hyde Park they really couldn’t afford. How silly of me. And how stupid of all of you who think this man is in this for anyone other than himself. The record belies the rhetoric, period.

No need to fire back, just start explaining your associations. Simple.

Posted by: John Foster | Oct 6, 2008 1:23:23 AM
excuse me! haven’t you read the anti mccain palin posts??? bho supporters have a corner on hate and rage.

TypicalwhiteAmerica–
That was a nice piece on black churches and Obama…….He sound like Martin luther King back in the 1950′s and 1960′s.
Apparently he wants those preachers to become active in black communities for the good. No it is not enough to serve food to the poor. You have to show the “poor” resources …like getting a job and confidence to keep the job. As a sociologist, a lot of urban areas have been hit hard with hopelessness. These issues are far more complex and should not be exploited for negative use. Nice try… YOU ARE OT DIVERSE AT ALL!

2008 Election!
Giving the economical status of our country there is no time for the old politics. Let’s look at Senator McCain’s judgement on VP – in my opinion this was a poor choice. He was hoping to get Senator Clinton’s supporters to his side. Governor Palin! Is she ready to step in if she had to take Senator’s McCain’s place, ABSOLUTELY NOT ! The race will be in history books to come, as we look back we will be thankful that Senator Obama -was elected PRESIDENT. Thank you for voting for the right man !

Dems No More,
Yeah I admitted I made a big mistake when I was a kid (18) and voted for Bush.
I voted for him bc I didnt pay attention, didn’t read the news. I saw a Newsweek cover that said Bush and Gore were the same.
I’ve learned my lesson. This time around I read about the issues, took the time to find out about the candidates and decided to vote with my head.
I don’t believe for a second you believe in anything McCain stands for.
But you’re still gonna go out and vote for him. So I can’t respect anything you say.
Anyone who goes out and votes against their best interests gets what they deserve. Fortunately you won’t have to regret voting for McCain like I regretted voting for Bush.
Because No Way, No How, No McCain.

Is there anybody out there with a functioning brain that doesn’t see this new “tactic” (or is it a strategy?) by the McCain campaign for what it is: a desperate last minute attempt! If they were so concerned about the character of Obama, why hold this bs until now?
oh BTW: McCain better be careful…his tights to mafia, and gambling may pop up, not to mention that cretin Palin’s affair with her husband’s partner and her ties to the Alaskan independent party…
I have a brilliant idea for the McCain campaign: instead of engaging in disgusting, narrow-minded, mediocre politics that attract the dummest americans…how about an economic plan that is DIFFERENT THAN BUSH! how are you going to help the economy??

Let’s look at McCain/Palin’s grades/class ranking and they start the debate.

All this going on while Biden’s at his mother in law’s funeral. Classless stuff from McCain/Palin. Classless stuff

Posted by: Maritza Rogers | Oct 6, 2008 1:45:53 AM
information has to wait until this time in an electio, or the msm and the electorate forget…

Posted by: Posty | Oct 6, 2008 1:48:37 AM
apples and oranges. we are talking about bho here not biden(as usual)

The 60′s are over. Send this left wing radical back to his community organizing roots.

bl,
wow, we agree on something. it would be a grave tactical error to attack biden now.
then again, with mccain’s campaign’s track record i wouldnt put it past them.
have you ever seen a more poorly run campaign? it makes kerry look like a genius.

Guilt by association? Isn’t it pretty clear that Sarah Palin is under investigation for misusing her powers as governor? This isn’t a half truth made up by the democratic party. Will be interesting to see how that one turns out. Though I’m pretty sure she will get away with it now that top paid attorneys are on the case.

First, I really respected John McCain as a man of honor and character. Now, he is just another Repulican candidate using smear tactics.
Another Danger, he can’t control Sarah Parlin to shut her mouth during this campaign, how can he control her during his Presidency especially she wants more POWER. :)
Just a thought

John: We Democrats, progressives and proud liberals have researched the Republican propaganda machines lies about Obama and have found them false, miss-leading and loaded insinuations without real facts. Guilt by association is not actual guilt. It proves nothing and only re-enforces the progressive movement to push the liars, cheaters and selfish neocons out of our government. The party is over, my neocon friend. Get used to it. Power to the people, not the few and greedy ones.

“John: We Democrats, progressives and proud liberals have researched the Republican propaganda machines lies about Obama and have found them false, miss-leading and loaded insinuations without real facts. ”
Of course you did. You must be a liar yourself. Why doesn’t he just answer the damm questions.

Posted by: ray | Oct 6, 2008 2:12:40 AM
provethey are incorrect!
all the information hannity presented can be found in msm.