By Jennifer Parker

Oct 1, 2008 8:12pm

Stephanopoulos: Battleground Swing Sees Obama Within Reach of 270 Electoral Votes

ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos reports: Barack Obama is building a widening lead over John McCain in key battleground states including Pennsylvania, Florida and Ohio, new polls revealed today.

Obama is enjoying a shift in support in key battleground states thanks in part to his handling of the financial crisis, his performance in the first presidential debate, and souring views of Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin.

Obama is likely ahead in enough states right now to get 270 electoral votes.

Obama is leading McCain 51-43 in Florida, 50-42 in Ohio, and 54-39 in Pennsylvania, according to a new Quinnipiac University poll released today.

Other polls in Florida confirm a lead for Obama, including a Suffolk University poll of Florida voters showing Obama leading McCain 46-42.

Time/CNN has another poll out today that has Obama leading McCain 51-47 in Florida, 54 – 43 in Minnesota, 49 -48 in Missouri, 51-47 in Nevada, and a stunning nine percentage point lead in Virginia of 53 to 44.

However neither campaign believes that Obama has that kind of a lead in Virginia right now.
But both campaigns see a shift in these key battleground states toward Obama.

The number one issue for voters right now is the financial crisis, which has put the focus of this presidential election campaign on the economy and on President Bush.

There is some evidence that voters believe Obama has been a steadier hand in this crisis than McCain, including our latest ABC News/Washington Post poll, which found the Democratic presidential candidate has a 14-point lead over McCain in trust to handle the economy.

The second reason for Obama’s lead is the first presidential debate held last Friday in Mississippi. Most polls show that Obama won the debate.

Finally, there is Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, who boosted McCain’s poll numbers after her selection and during the Republican convention.

However she has suffered from series of media interviews where she gave muddled responses and Saturday Night Live skits that are making her into a punch line. The number of Americans questioning her qualifications for office is rising steadily.

Palin has become a bit of a drag on the Republican ticket so far, and voters are even questioning their commitment to McCain because of that.

McCain officials know that this puts so much more pressure on her at Thursday night’s vice presidential debate in St. Louis to come through with no major gaffes.

User Comments

Everything that people say about Sarah Palin and her not being qualified for vice-president, you are saying the same about Obama.
Moreover, Obama states he would go into Pakistani territory without Pakistan’s permission. I guess you missed that one. Obama has no military experience and does not want to be left out of any conversation for fear he will lose a voter. Obama is all wind that blows in all directions. Obama will do and say anything to try to be president.
There is no way to tell if any information gathered from whatever intelligence is accurate. Moreover, the Middle East conflict is not about bin Laden. The Middle East conflict is about OIL. America is killing its son for OIL. The people do not need another President Johnson to expand the Middle East conflict. It is time to get out of the Middle East. Vietnam was about the industrial-military complex and the Middle East conflict is about OIL
After a thorough investigation, there is no doubt in backing and voting for
Ralph Nader.
http://www.votenader.org/about/
No Votes For Obama. Obama failed our investigation. McCain has improved his position and is moving up for consideration in the presidential election.
This post is not paid for by any political party.

Posted by: Judge | October 1, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm

Surprise Obama; you may not be the first Afro-American president of the United States of America.
Link:
http://g33klite.com/index.php/facts/general/76-general/188-6-black-american-presidents
After a thorough investigation, there is no doubt in backing and voting for
Ralph Nader.
http://www.votenader.org/about/
No Votes For Obama. Obama failed our investigation. McCain has improved his position and is moving up for consideration in the presidential election.
This post is not paid for by any political party

Posted by: Judge | October 1, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm

The American people need a new voice and this is why I am voting Bob Barr.
Vote BARR!!
Let Third parties in the Debates!!!
http://www.bobbarr2008.com

Posted by: Jack .M | October 1, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm

Sorry niether candidate is going to get my vote, I am voting Bob Barr libertarian

Posted by: GMSilvia | October 1, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm

The American people are sick of the (D) and (R) controling Goverment. That is why I am Voteing BOB BARR!!
please vist http://www.bobbarr2008.com

Posted by: Nicholas | October 1, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm

Bob Barr is everything that is right in this country. People that are willing to move forward in getting another voice in the debates and the White House, please look into Libertarian candidate Bob Barr. Many have said that a vote for Barr is a wasted vote, but this is just not true. If the Libertarians just get 5% of the vote, they will then receive millions of dollars in funding for 2012 (which only (R) and (D) get) and will also achieved ballot status in all 50 States! Now to me getting another voice in Government, other than the same-old out of tune voice, into office in 4 years is very important step to changing our government. Just remember there are more the two opinions out there in America and there are still only two political parties in power.

Posted by: Luis | October 1, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm

He nears having enough electorial votes?
We should then just stop the campaign , swear him in and have each candidate turn in their money.
Besides we the people look forward to having someone else to blame for everything that goes wrong these days, of course if Obama wins, everything will be peachy on January 21, all problems solved, hungry people fed and the sick cured.

Posted by: david | October 1, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm

It isn’t just Palin pulling the McCain ticket down – it’s McCain himself! I truly believe there’s something very wrong with this man lately – he lies too much, people are now noticing those lies…no longer the man of honor he liked us to think of him as. So while part of the reason the McCain camp is losing ground is indeed Palin – the other half of the blame is on McCain.

Posted by: Nancy D | October 1, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm

The Constitution represents the people, the Libertarian Party represents the Constitution, Bob Barr represents the Libertarian Party. You do the math, they represent the banks, not us. Vote Barr give the country back to the people.

Posted by: GMSilvia | October 1, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm

The line between the dems and repubs is growing hazier. American is being had: we are like lambs to the slaughter. We are losing our civil liberties, our voice, and our freedoms, bit by bit. Please consider Bob Barr as a viable contender in this presidential election. Visit BobBarr2008 for a look at Barr’s stance on the many issues that concern us, especially his stance on liberty, freedom and the Constitution.

Posted by: Traci | October 1, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm

I am against these bailouts.
BOB BARR is against these bailouts. We need a fiscally responsible candidate in the White House this year, not big spenders like McCain and Obama.
BOB BARR for president!

Posted by: Luis | October 1, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm

Why isn’t the press raking McCain over the coals over his being a part of the Keating 5 scandal? Why isn’t the press raking McCain/ “Mr.Straight Shooter” over the coals about the numerous times that he cheated on his first wife before and after Viet Nam including with current wife Cindy? How’s that for character? If Obama had that kind of trash in his background, there would be constant reminders on the first page of the news. The press was all over Obama about what Rev. Wright, who is not running for President, said. What about what McCain, who is running for President,DID!!! The man lied to his family and now America. He doesn’t deserve to be President.

Posted by: MY2cents | October 1, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm

I respect Nader and glade he is breaking the Matrixs but BARR is getting my vote! He is the only one that is for true Liberty and Free trade!
Vote BARR and Libertarian Party!!!
http://www.1p.org

Posted by: Mike J | October 1, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm

Get a grip Georgey boy, the American
people haven’t even voted yet. So why
don’t you just shut up until
election time………..
McCain/Palin 08!!!!!!!!!!!
Eat your heart out….

Posted by: Joey | October 1, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm

I will not vote for the lesser of two evils, back to basics, Bob Barr ’08′

Posted by: GMSilvia | October 1, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm

We need to show the Goverment that we are not going to take it any more!!!
Vote Barr!!!
http://www.bobbarr2008.com

Posted by: Nicholas | October 1, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm

Voting Independent ticket puts Obama in office. He would get the majority. The others are too far behind in the polls to make a difference. Even McCain is failing partly because of that.

Posted by: carolyn | October 1, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm

Every US President and many vice-presidents had jokes about them and mocked since the invention of the media. It would appear that Stephanopoulos is unconscientiously promoting Sarah Palin. Maybe Stephanopoulos has a secret desire that he knows cannot come true.
After a thorough investigation, there is no doubt in backing and voting for
Ralph Nader.
http://www.votenader.org/about/
No Votes For Obama. Obama failed our investigation. McCain has improved his position and is moving up for consideration in the presidential election.
This post is not paid for by any political party.

Posted by: Judge | October 1, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm

“Controlling government spending is a necessary step to enact true tax reform, which will reduce the burden on all Americans and allow them to keep more of their hard-earned money.” This is what a Bob Barr administration wants to do for you. Will you let them?
http://www.bobbarr200.com

Posted by: LibertyFighter | October 1, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm

“Controlling government spending is a necessary step to enact true tax reform, which will reduce the burden on all Americans and allow them to keep more of their hard-earned money.” This is what a Bob Barr administration wants to do for you. Will you let them?

Posted by: Luis | October 1, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm

Obama was able to scam enough caucus support to weasel his way into the nomination.
With his ties to the Chicago political decadence, will anyone be surprised when Obama steals the White House?

Posted by: No Hussein | October 1, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm

Avote for the same 2 party system is a vote for evil. Obama and McCain are the same.
That is why I am voteing BOB BARR
http://www.bobbarr2008.com

Posted by: Gim | October 1, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm

Isn’t it what all of us want to hear from a presidential candidate: ” Unlike Republicans, who are calling for essentially permanent bases in Iraq, and Democrats, who have done nothing to counter Republican calls for an indefinite occupation, I would put in place plans for withdrawal without undue delay. While I support an exit from Iraq as quickly as possible, I would not publicly announce a timetable to our adversaries. However, as President, I would begin to immediately and significantly begin to reduce both the military and the economic security blanket we are providing the government.”- Bob Barr.

Posted by: RoadToFreedom | October 1, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm

Who is Bob Barr ???

Posted by: Levi | October 1, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm

The more I read and hear Obama, the more he reminds be of Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker (Baker). The religious pair that pulled millions of dollars from unsuspecting people and air conditioned their doghouse. Obama’s speeches remind me more of a sermon than a political talk. Of course, he is use to talking like a preacher in the church he attends. We do not see or hear anything about whites and Jews that has much value.
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/barack-obamas-church-ultra-left-and-afrocentric
After a thorough investigation, there is no doubt in backing and voting for
Ralph Nader.
http://www.votenader.org/about/
No Way to Obama. McCain has moved to the front burner. Obama failed our investigation. McCain has improved his position..
This post is not paid for by any political party.

Posted by: Judge | October 1, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm

INDICTMENTS BEFORE BAILOUTS
WHERE IS THE DEPT. OF JUSTICE?
Bob Barr for President

Posted by: Luis | October 1, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm

If BARR gets into the debates he willwin the hearts of all!!!
E-mail the CPD and ask to have Barr and Nader in them
Vote Barr 2008!!!
http://www.lp.org

Posted by: Vote BARR | October 1, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm

And, good old Stephanopoulos is doing his best to make his way to the front of the line for consideration as White House Press Secretary.
Why would anyone want to get elected to the White House when you can just take a biased stance for Obama on the hopes of getting an appointed job?
Old George must have not gotten enough during the Clinton years, or perhaps the details of why he left the White House would make a good story.

Posted by: No Hussein | October 1, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm

learn more about BOB BARR
www BobBarr2008 dot com

Posted by: Luis | October 1, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm

BOB BARR FOR PRESIDENT: Because I can no longer hold my nose when I walk into the voting both.

Posted by: Luis | October 1, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm

If McCain gets in we lose, if Obama gets in we lose, I will take no part in helping them hand any more of your money to the banks who lost it in the first place. I would rather fail doing what is right, then suceed at something I know to be wrong. I vote for liberty, I vote Bob barr

Posted by: GMSilvia | October 1, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm

Mr. “Christian faith” is trying to feed us BS with a bunch of polls that are nothing more than “black noise” Rasmussen sas they have 87% of Democrats supporting Obama. No way in these basttleground states. PUMA attack will elect MCCain.

Posted by: geevill | October 1, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm

Bob Barr is what is everything right with America!
Vist BOB BARR’s site!!!
http://www.bobbarr2008.com

Posted by: Vote BARR | October 1, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm

Bob Barr is what is everything right with America!
Vist BOB BARR’s site!!!
http://www.bobbarr2008.com

Posted by: Vote BARR | October 1, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm

Will he have Spike Lee with him?

Posted by: Maximeliano | October 1, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm

BREAK THE MATRIX
Vote third party.
Let’s throw these bums out!

Posted by: Barr4Prez | October 1, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm

The boiling frog story states that a frog can be boiled alive if the water is heated slowly enough — it is said that if a frog is placed in boiling water, it will jump out, but if it is placed in cold water that is slowly heated, it will never jump out.
This is what is happening to American citizens. We are slowly being boiled alive. Do you not see the gradual changes taking place? We are moving slowing away from what our founding fathers wanted for us and our government is growing larger and more corrupt. Sarah Palin is a power monger, control freak. Just what we need right now after Bush. Are you kidding me? I’ve been reading and research other candidates and I decided that I am not voting for either of the major parties this election. I am voting for Bob Barr.

Posted by: Paul | October 1, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm

MCBAMA : Same crap, Different Pile.

Posted by: Barr4Prez2 | October 1, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm

6. Isn’t it what all of us want to hear from a presidential candidate: “ Unlike Republicans, who are calling for essentially permanent bases in Iraq, and Democrats, who have done nothing to counter Republican calls for an indefinite occupation, I would put in place plans for withdrawal without undue delay. While I support an exit from Iraq as quickly as possible, I would not publicly announce a timetable to our adversaries. However, as President, I would begin to immediately and significantly begin to reduce both the military and the economic security blanket we are providing the government.”- Bob Barr.

Posted by: James CA | October 1, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm

Well, looks like we have alot of Nader and Barr fans. Isn’t it great to living in a country that you have the freedom to vote as you wish. The problem is if Obama gets elected and those of you voting for Nader and Barr will help that happen, socialism is not far behind him. Beware.

Posted by: Tracy | October 1, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm

MCBAMA: once they’re done with the American people and our Dollar, they’ll make us wish we had been paid in Pesos.
“Just say no” to BAILOUTS

Posted by: Barr4Prez | October 1, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm

“Controlling government spending is a necessary step to enact true tax reform, which will reduce the burden on all Americans and allow them to keep more of their hard-earned money.” This is what a Bob Barr administration wants to do for you. Will you let them?
This is what we all need!
Vote BOB BARR

Posted by: High | October 1, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm

I am so glad that I visited this site today because I have learned that there are other options out there. I was voting for McCain until he got behind the bailout and told me that my best interests where not at heart. Of course I should have known, the wealthy sleep with the wealthy and he is in bed with all of those corporate fatcats on Wallstreet! He talks about mainstreet but knows nothing of what it is like to be a middle class citizen. I am looking at Barr and Nader now but it seems that Barr mirror my own thoughts a little better. Please tell me more about why I should change my vote from McCain to Barr?

Posted by: Francis | October 1, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm

“Controlling government spending is a necessary step to enact true tax reform, which will reduce the burden on all Americans and allow them to keep more of their hard-earned money.” This is what a Bob Barr administration wants to do for you. Will you let them?
http://www.bobbarr200.com.
Posted by: LibertyFighter
I know your intentions are there, but this is the
first time I’ve ever heard of Bob Barr. He has very
little history from the news media, and coming
in less than 40 days before elections would be
fruitless and a waste of resources. Start thinking
about 2012 with a more organized approach. LOL

Posted by: spacerook1 | October 1, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm

Slow or fast, I choose stop socialism, not socialism light and indefinate war. Any choice not for Liberty is a choice for socialism. Bob Barr for life and liberty

Posted by: GMSilvia | October 1, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm

Is that the same ´widening lead´that Gore and Kerry had?
What happened to them? are they still alive or just political skeletons?

Posted by: Stephen from Indiana | October 1, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm

As far as i am thinking Obama and McCain are the same. Both Big Goverment and Limited Lberties. Thats why I am voteing Barr this year. No more Big Gov!!

Posted by: Hillary | October 1, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm

Dear John,
Could you and your lady friend please step aside and let the real candidate continue the campaign?
P.S. Tell that Obama fellow I have yet to figure out what he “hopes” to “change”. Some clarification would be much appreciated.

Posted by: Luis | October 1, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm

America needs to stop being spoon fed….
Wake up and look around you there are MORE choices out there!!! Look at what the current government has done. It has time to go back to the basics!
Being a homeschool mother of three I am concerned of how the government plays in the schooling of my children.
http://www.bobbarr2008.com

Posted by: Barr 'o8 | October 1, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm

Want to know what the Libertarian Party stands for, think Declaration of Independance, The Constitution of the United States of America, and the Bill of Rights, there you go the basics.

Posted by: GMSilvia | October 1, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm

Barr has been in the race since June!
The people are just wakeing up to see himnow that Obama and McCain have turned their backs on us Americans.
Please look in to Barr and if you are in a fully Red or Blue state vote Barr so the Libertarians can become a big Party next time around. Thats why I am.

Posted by: Jullie | October 1, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm

I’m glad that more and more people are coming to their senses. If you just cut through the BS, the issues are plainly clear.
McCain wants to continue along the path of reganomics, which is a disaster waiting to happen. His tax plan will raise the deficit by an additional $4.2 trillion over 10 years. Obama, while still increasing the deficit, will do so to a much smaller degree, which gives him a much better chance to ballance our budget.
http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/publications/url.cfm?ID=411749
Both Obamas and McCains health care plan will cost roughly the same (McCain: $1.3 trillion over 10 years, Obama $1.6). However, Obamas plan is much more cost effective; Over the 10-year period, McCain’s plan spends roughly seven times more (per capita) than Obama’s to cover each of the forecasted uninsured. McCains plan will result in an increase in uninsured due to his wanting to tax employer provided health care for the first time in history, while Obamas plan will significantly increase coverage to americans, particularly those currently unable to get insurance.
http://www.epi.org/content.cfm/pm126
And those are just two major differences. Differences that will directly impact americans, in the pocketbook and in their future. I’m hoping that more and more people will continue opening their eyes.

Posted by: Concerned Citizen | October 1, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm

Clearly, you have too much time on your hands to post all this stuff about Bob Barr. Seriously, if I go to the Bob Barr site, will I get a virus on my computer or something? Beause really, that’s how nuts you sound….

Posted by: LOL | October 1, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm

Dear Barrack,
I found one of your campaign signs that says “Change we need”. The attempts of your party and the GOP at social engineering and rewarding lenders who make bad loans have ruined the economy, but this sign will come in handy along with the empty coffee can that I have people drop the change into that I so badly need.
Thank you so much Barrack,
Joe

Posted by: HoboJoe | October 1, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm

We need to open are eyes people. The Democrats and Republicans are not going to do anything to help us. Thats why I will vote for BARR or NADER on Nov 4th!!

Posted by: Ron PA | October 1, 2008, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm

Changing your posting name, doesnt convince anyone that you are numerous people expressing the same outrageous opinion, especially when you do it back to back. Nice try though Bob Barr.

Posted by: grumpybumpy | October 1, 2008, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm

Stop the Drama, Vote for Obama!

Posted by: Truth matters | October 1, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm

Go see the Libertarians view on things!!!
http://www.lp.org
Go Barr

Posted by: Ron PA | October 1, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm

Bob Barr plans to cut Gov spending by 200 billion, on top of his “bail out plan” which would cost $0
So it is between how many trillions they will sink us in debt versus how much Barr will cut costs, and lower taxes. Guess it depends on who you want to get your paycheck, the banks and politicians, or you?
Bob Barr ’08′

Posted by: GMSilvia | October 1, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm

Bob Barr is a loser! Give it a break. Since McCain is losing now the racists are changing tunes and backing Barr. Anybody but the black guy, is their motto.

Posted by: Fairfax | October 1, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm

changing names, wanna bet? How much you got left, after your party members have given away your tax money

Posted by: GMSilvia | October 1, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm

Looks like message board is hijacked by third party nuts, This country is in this worst shape because of these people eating away Gore’s vote in 2000 and facilitating election of worst president in History.
I am amazed by complete idiots in this country.
Think about it, Vote Obama!!!!

Posted by: SJ | October 1, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm

Obama looks like he has an easier path to victory than McCain. He has too many paths to get in. It looks like he will gain IA and NM. If he wins any of these states and holds Kerry’s states: CO(Tie),Va, OH, FL, NC, IN, or Mo, Obama wins.

Posted by: Smartvoter | October 1, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm

I know your intentions are there, but this is the
spacerook1 said: “this first time I’ve ever heard of Bob Barr.”
That is unfortunate. I found Bob when I became disillusioned by the two major party candidates.
You also said, “He has very little history from the news media.”
This is true and that is because our news media is biased. They are bitches for the system. That is why again, you look for answers outside of what these clowns are telling you.
“coming in less than 40 days before elections would be fruitless and a waste of resources. Start thinking
about 2012 with a more organized approach.”
Better late than never my friend. Besides that, Barr has a pretty strong following. Approximately half of Americans are interested in a third party candidates according to Gallup. here is a link to the article http://www.gallup.com/poll/110764/Public-Divided-Need-Third-Party.aspx
Think about half of America working behing the scenes without the help of the media. It’s pretty awesome actually. We hope to be that big surprise come election time and send a strong message to our government that we are not going to stand for it any longer. It’s awesome to be part of that.

Posted by: Traci | October 1, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm

He Bob Barr freak, how much does he pay an hour for your comments? Or does he rather pay for each comment (regardless of the content as long as Bob Barr is mentioned in it)???
Stop the Drama, Vote for Obama.

Posted by: Truth matters | October 1, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm

Pathitic ways to stray from the issues. We are talking rationaly about the governments role and responsibilities to its citezens yet some just love putting lipstick on a pig.
Some people think nothing changes fast, it doesn’t take much research to see things happen much faster than 40 days. Remember 9/11, the world changed in less than a day, now the market crisis, yet people are so narrow minded as to deny themselves a solution.
Vote Bob Barr, or plan to pay 2-3 times the taxes you are now.

Posted by: GMSilvia | October 1, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm

It’s a lock. Cynics, you can cry now and eat the rest of your crow later. Grey Poupon?
Regarding Bob Barr…….Yes, both he and Ron Paul will utterly drain the last hemoglobin left in McCain as the S*** Talking Jetliner Express is going into a nosedive. Let’s watch McCain and Palin go down in flames. (AS EXPECTED)
POTUS OBAMA – IT’S INEVITABLE

Posted by: Nat Turner | October 1, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm

Judge – Moreover, Obama states he would go into Pakistani territory without Pakistan’s permission. I guess you missed that one.
__________________________________________________
No, many of us who lost loved ones on 9/11 greatly appreciate Obama going after the actual person responsible for the worst attack on American soil, Bin Laden. We have given billions to Pakistan and they have done nothing and gained no control over the governless northern territory of their country. McCain will follow Bin Laden to the “gates of hell” but won’t put in covert ops or a laser guided missle into Bin Laden’s cave in Pakistan?
Your OIL argument is an argument for Obama/Biden and your post is very random.

Posted by: Paige | October 1, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm

Idiocy is legitimizing the Two Party System…
By the way, I am racist now because I don’t agree with Obama? Sorry, but if I vote for Obama, that will make me sexist for not choosing the ticket that has a woman on it, won’t it?
Hmmm… I’m Latino, so I don’t think the racist label will stick, sorry.
Bob Barr And Wayne Allyn Root: the sensible choice.
P.S. why don’t you goo gle “Jimmy Carter and Bob Barr” along with the word “execution” and see if you can continue throwing out the word racist with a clear conscience, butt head.

Posted by: Luis | October 1, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm

Please, Please get out the vote for Barr! Ron Paul’s supporters going to Chuck Baldwin and we’ll turn Texas Blue! They are all on the ballot!

Posted by: Paige | October 1, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm

How will you pay for their spending, who will you send to die in their wars. I am a veteran and my course is clear, Bob Barr ’08′

Posted by: GMSilvia | October 1, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm

For all Repugs looking for a parachute due to the S*** Talking Airways going into a nose dive, VOTE Ron Paul.
As an Obama supporter, he is actually the best choice for you guys hands down. Unfortunately, the good ole boys network that plays “It’s Not Your Turn”, doesn’t consider the best choice.
TOO BAD – Check back in 8 years. Ron and Bob will be too old and another Democrat will be primed built on the ideals of change and adaptation.
POTUS OBAMA – IT’S A LOCK

Posted by: Nat Turner | October 1, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm

What a disaster for this country. I was voting for McCain, but I will now not vote at all. Obama will win, because there are too many americans that are brainwashed. I am now going to retire from the US Army and move to Germany. There is no way in hell I will serve under Barack Hussein Obama. SO LONG USA!! I AM OUT OF HERE!!Enjoy your new president.

Posted by: dwayne | October 1, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm

George is the biggest supporter of Obama and has caused me to not watch anything he is involved in. I would never miss his Sunday morning show until be just became another BHO clown. He could join the View audience where they just can not stop raising the Obama flag.

Posted by: William | October 1, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm

dwayne,
Don’t let the doorknob hit you where your Moms spit you.
Germany huh? The love him there too!!!
My recommendation is to move to West Virginia. You’ll be safe there.

Posted by: Nat Turner | October 1, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm

ROW ROW ROW your boats gently to defeeeat!
MERRILY, MERRILY MERRILY MERILLY, McCain will be BEAT!
Cry now, kill yourselves November 4th.

Posted by: Nat Turner | October 1, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm

For those who keep saying ‘Obama doesn’t stand for anything’, etc., apparently you have not gone to his website to read his plans…concise and detailed…go read them for yourself. We can’t do your homework for you.
http://www.barackobama.com

Posted by: Nancy D | October 1, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm

Having lived in this country for over 50 years, the mere fact that a scam-artist such as Obama could even be close to winning a Presidential election says a lot about the sad, sad shape of the United States of America.
This election, I will cast my vote against a welfare state and the ruination of the United States of America, but I will not stop there.
Not another tax dollar of my money will go to pay for an Obama welfare state or the socialistic values that he and his followers stand for.
Canada is a bit colder than where I live now, but it is still predominantly white and ruled by the same.
If Obama takes power, I have a feeling that a lot of people will opt for a cleaner climate.

Posted by: No Hussein | October 1, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm

Bye Bye to all CYNICS. America doesn’t need you anymore.
REPUGS WILL NEVER GAIN POWER AGAIN.
In fact, with ole Bushy going down in history as the WORST EVER President, calling someone a Republican will be a hate crime.
POTUS OBAMA – CYNIC SMASHER

Posted by: Nat Turner | October 1, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm

I once met a man named Nat.
Got hit in the head with a bat.
He said, “Vote Hussein.”
Then ran out in the rain.
And tried to make love to the cat.

Posted by: No Hussein | October 1, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm

** Canada is a bit colder than where I live now, but it is still predominantly white and ruled by the same.
If Obama takes power, I have a feeling that a lot of people will opt for a cleaner climate. **
Don’t wait.. please leave now. We don’t need people like you who care more about your party than your country. Send us a postcard.

Posted by: Concerned Citizen | October 1, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm

Hey William, I already lived in WV. My wife is German. I am so thankful for that now. She hates Obama!! All you liberals can have Obama as your president, and it will not be pretty at all these next 4 years. The USA is not the same anymore. I am 47 and I am out of here. At least I will be able to enjoy the German beer and all the fests. SO LONG USA, YOU MADE THE WRONG CHOICE, AND YOU WILL REGRET IT AS WELL.

Posted by: dwayne | October 1, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm

I’m gonna have to vote Chuck Baldwin Constitution party over “Barf, Insane McCain, Barrack O’Bomba”, or (reluctantly Ralph Nader or Cynthia McKinney) Why, because as Bill Veeck once said with his continuing voting for Norman Thomas after he passed:”I’d rather vote for a dead man with class than two live BUMS.” I’ll never be rich enough to vote for a Libertarian, Republican or Democrat. To say these people represent anyone making less than 900,00 a year is a pure insult to intelligence. 1st the FISA betrayal now “bailouts for Billionaires”, thanks Barack! Then Shia/Sunni screwy, bomb, bomb, bomb IRAN, Phil Gramn: “Your ALL a nation of Whiners!”, “the economy is strong, but Wall St. NEEDS a bailout… John “Insane” McCain. How ANYBODY can even stomach one vote for these two TURDS!!! Is beyond me…

Posted by: hmn | October 1, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm

Cut and snippet Obama bloggers on a salary.
No concern there except for the emerging welfare state and who much you can scam for it.
Whether I am here or not, someone will be watching you.

Posted by: No Hussein | October 1, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm

I know that most everyone in jail is innocent. Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha.
There are Afro-American police and judges that put Afro-Americans in prison. What a bunch of crap Obama supporters spread. It will be make great manure in the Spring.

Posted by: Judge | October 1, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm

First time I ever heard any one isinuate that Libertarians are rich, some one should call my bank, that negative balance is all wrong, lol.

Posted by: GMSilvia | October 1, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm

All Barr voters are here campaigning for a dead ticket ! What a bunch of losers.McCain’s supporters are pathetic and their candidate has one foot in the grave, and the other on a banana skin called Palin.The only viable candidate here is BHO-no other choices, and it is about time to inject some brain power in the white house and forget about the the non sense.

Posted by: Jack | October 1, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm

Same motivation that drives over 95% of the black voters, including you and the Reverend Wright.
C’est la vie, welfare whiners.

Posted by: No Hussein | October 1, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm

Listen to the cynics slurp down that “Blackened Crow”.
Grey Poupon??
LMA OFFFFF!
How does it feel to know that your last GREAT WHITE HOPE, John Wayne is riding on his horse backwards and is riding over the cliff with you on as well.
TIIIIIIIIIIMBBBBBBBBBBBBBBEEEEEEERRR!
POTUS OBAMA – Ahhh, I love how that sounds

Posted by: Nat Turner | October 1, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm

No viability in Hussein Obama.
Only promises of fame and fortune in the Socialist States of Obama, the Supreme Welfare Lord and Messiah.
The chickens WILL come home to roost, right after they empty their load on the heads of Obama worshipers.

Posted by: No Hussein | October 1, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm

For people who ‘claim’ to be Americans, some here sure do spout very non-American ideals. Canada would be a good choice for those folk, but I doubt Canada wants them either.

Posted by: BillyBob | October 1, 2008, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm

Isn’t it great to see the cynics down on their knees still moving their mouths but nothing is coming out.
Pathetic lot.
ONLY THE STRONG SURVIVE.
As another poster said, McCain has one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel called Palin.
IT’S OVER. Exactly when? That’s worth watching and waiting for.

Posted by: Nat Turner | October 1, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm

Then Nat saw the cat was a chicken.
Said Nat, “I’d best get to lickin’.”
So old Nat just bent over.
Started barkin’ like Rover.
And prepared to take a butt-kickin’.

Posted by: No Hussein | October 1, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm

To all of you Bob Barr supporters:
You do know that he was a good ole boy Georgia Republican back in the Clinton days. He was considered to be a hardcore Conservative.
Don’t be fooled by this Republican in a Libertarian’s clothing. His candidacy is a lost cause…

Posted by: Reality Based | October 1, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm

I love the sound of bigots in the evening, grasping at straws in a desperate attempt to verify their own world views and spew their vile. As their candidates numbers continue going down the tubes, I’m sure that they will continue to spew even more and in greater number.
At least the more intelligent and rational citizens of this great country can see through the BS and base their decisions on what is best for their country. I was beginning to have doubts, after all, it was most likely the same people who voted for Dubba the second time, even after having been burned by him the first go-round.

Posted by: Concerned Citizen | October 1, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm

Billy Bob?
You must have heard Dueling Banjos one too many times.
That lilting liberal whine is showing through.
Just bow to the east and pay homage to the Great Lord Obama.

Posted by: No Hussein | October 1, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm

See you at the Inauguration Sweeties!
POTUS OBAMA – IT’S A LOCK

Posted by: Nat Turner | October 1, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm

To all of you Bob Barr supporters:
You do know that Bob Barr is a good ole boy Republican from Georgia back in the Clinton days. He was known as being as partisan and a hardcore Conservative as they come.
Don’t be fooled by by this Republican in a Libertarian’s clothing. His candidacy is a lost cause…

Posted by: Reality Based | October 1, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm

John McCain:
“For my next magic trick, I’ll make my current VP selection disappear and a new one will appear in the form of Rudy Gulliani”! Aaaaand a one! Aaaaaand a two! Aaaaala peanut butter saaaaaandwicheeeeeeeeeees! Waahlaah!
She’ll be “taken care of” and “erased” in a couple of weeks.
With a shotgun wedding coming up for her daughter, she’s just too busy!!!!!
Hey, where’s Carly Fiorino??? Did she have an “accident” too? Sexism from the McCain circus??? NOOOOOOO!!!
THIS IS TOO FUNNY!
Obama/Biden – It’s a Lock

Posted by: Nat Turner | October 1, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm

What a bunch of crap by Stephanopoulos, a want-to-be White House appointee. He reports that people are more for Obama because of the way he handled the financial crisis. Obama did the same as McCain, nothing.
Obama offers every voter everything under the roof at the White House, with no explanation of how he will accomplish his miracles. THERE IS NO FREE LUNCH. Taxpayers, business and the so-called rich will not be able to support America with Obama’s plan for socialistic rule. If you want to live like the Chinese, Iranians or Russians then pack your bags. We the people of America prefer FREEDOM and that is something that Obama tried to take away from the good people of Missouri.

Posted by: Judge | October 1, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm

Then there’s the whining concern of a welfare citizen. You know the kind. When they run out of welfare, they just get another P.O. box and file again. This country was great until it became infested with the liberal maggots who are nothing more than worms who live off the flesh of others. The smell of the liberal, Obama worshippers is sickening.

Posted by: No Hussein | October 1, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm

*** What a bunch of crap by Stephanopoulos, ***
You do know that you are free to NOT watch him don’t you?

Posted by: Concerned Citizen | October 1, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm

Someone said: “liberal maggots who are nothing more than worms who live off the flesh of others”
Oh my, sweetie, did you forget to take your meds today? You should be very careful, that vein bulging on your forehead might burst, and we sure don’t want that happening now, do we?

Posted by: Janice | October 1, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm

Billy Bob.
Another Obama welfare state supporter and snippet blogger.
Yep, those liberals sure do support the country.
How about the way that Biden supported his country with five deferments?
Then, there is the Great Lord Obama who didn’t have to bother.
After all, you can’t serve if you can’t produce an original birth certificate.
The only support liberals give is to the campaign of their Lord and Master Obama.
Their Constitution will be the Obama bible, the Quran.

Posted by: No Hussein | October 1, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm

You are kidding me. You mean to tell me that Obama did not try to restrict the use of TV. WOW, that is a surprise!
And you are FREE to vote to be none socialistic. No for Obama.

Posted by: Judge | October 1, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm

Of course, you mean the poisonous meds that Obama wants everyone to get FREE. Obama supports the pharmaceutical companies and their killer drugs.

Posted by: Judge | October 1, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm

I can’t believe in light of Rev. Wright, Ayers, Odinga, etc., Obama is still getting any votes. Blacks voting for Obama is like chickens voting for the Colonel in light of substandard housing, the Garden to Nowhere, Annenberg millions for Chicago schools wasted. What is up with this country?

Posted by: JKIR | October 1, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm

*** THERE IS NO FREE LUNCH. ***
You are quite right.. which is why I’m amazed that people make this claim yet ignore the fact that McCain wants to cut taxes to the tune of increasing the deficit $4.2 trillion over 10 years. He apparently thinks that we can continue borrowing without consequences.. which I guess for him isn’t so bad.. he won’t be around much longer anyway, so what does he care?
Oh, by the way, you do know that less than 2% of the families in the US earn more than $250,000, and that the top 1% controls over 40% of the wealth in America. Obamas tax plan will only effect them, and corporations will see the same tax rate as currently in place, with the added bonus of a tax reduction for health care. Both candidates health plan cost roughly the same, but Obamas is more efficent and will cover more Americans.
http://www.epi.org/content.cfm/pm126

Posted by: Concerned American | October 1, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm

No Hussein- The Doctors are looking for you. It’s time for your group session.

Posted by: Get Real | October 1, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm

** You are kidding me. You mean to tell me that Obama did not try to restrict the use of TV. WOW, that is a surprise! **
Oh, too funny.. the campaign wanted local law officials to enforce existing laws regarding false and deceptive advertising!
So, I guess you are all in favor of false and advertising ads.. that actually isn’t a surprise.

Posted by: Concerned American | October 1, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm

To the far left is Obama and George Stephanopoulous,old Charlie Gibson is right there with them. They all want more govt. and don’t appreciate conservative points of view. George Stephanopoulous (can you imagine his first day of school when he had to write his name) can’t be trusted in his reporting. He’s so biased to the left that he’s fallen off the ledge.

Posted by: AgainstStephanopoulos | October 1, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm

McCain gambled by selecting Palin as his VP. Now he’s paying the price for it.
Fortunately, McCain won’t be given the chance to gamble with the US’ economy. The US needs a thinker for president, not a gambler.
PS: Who the heck is Bob Barr? Who in their right mind would waste their votes on Bob Barr? Might as well vote for me if you like to waste your vote!

Posted by: Bryan T | October 1, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm

Obama using those children to sing his songs and praises … Oh my God, reminds me of Communist China and those poor Chinese children having to sing Mao praises … Obama and his socialist agenda on display, alright
Obama has no credit of his own to stand on, he has to use styrofoam Greek pillars to create an atmosphere of false greatness …
Now, he wants to use children to sing his songs .. it was on his website ..
Despicable .. Obama, you cannot fake “greatness”. You only make yourself look downright STUPID.

Posted by: ThoseSingingObamaKids SHAMELESS PLOY | October 1, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm

There is no efficiency in Obama’s or McCain’s so-called health plan.
Obama’s national health plan would only feed the constantly rising medical costs. Obama’s national health plan would give pharmaceutical companies more undeserving US dollars to add to their trillion dollar bank accounts.
The national health plans of other countries are more of a failure than a success. There is long waiting periods for necessary surgeries. Many foreigners come to the US and pay for treatments out of their pockets.
The national health plan is more wind from Obama. The only problem is the American Medical Association. The medical lobby is strong and it has many times defeated any thoughts of a national medical plan. That is why there are many foreign doctors in the USA. I can hear the laughter coming from the AMA.
Obama, wants to do what? Ha..Ha…Ha…Ha…Ha
Obama knows he makes a promise that he can not keep. There are many promises that Obama, the Democratic puppet cannot keep.
There is no doubt in backing and voting for Ralph Nader.
http://www.votenader.org/about/

Posted by: Judge | October 1, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm

Mr. Cutler and Obama do not recognize the real problem with health care costs. I looked at a WSJ article and Mr. Cutler missed too many important points.
No one is addressing the real causes of rising health care costs. The doctors and the pharmaceutical companies are the number one cause of American sickness and death. Preventative health measures are great when people stop drinking alcohol in excess, stop eating junk foods, stop smoking cigarettes, stop using uncontrolled substances and drugs, stop the use of white sugar, use regular exercise and observe better nutrition. People will be healthier using more of a caveman diet and not the modern day diet of processed foods.
The reason for the tremendous increase in malpractice insurance is due to the insurance carriers knowing the dangers to human life by taking prescription drugs. There is no cure for cancer and the doctors know there is no cure. The doctors will use the word remission and not the word cure for cancer. I was associated with a 700 bed hospital for over thirty years. I know of doctors that would not take vaccines, fearing serious side effects or death. I know of two medical doctors that injected a lethal dose of a drug into their veins and died rather than go through the horrors of worthless chemotherapy. Yet Obama wants to spent trillions of dollars on a failing system called medicine.
Obama and McCain do not have a good health care plan. At least McCain makes people do something other than depend on the taxpayers to pay for every human need. Communism failed in Russia because the government wanted to control everything. America’s forefathers did not establish a country with socialistic ideals. Obama does not get it. This is America not Russia, Kenya or Indonesia.
Mr. Cutler and Obama want to give large sums of money to a broken health care system at taxpayers expense. If Obama wants socialism, then he should go home to his other country, wherever that may be. Obama, let me know when you are leaving, I’ll be there to wave good-bye.
After a thorough investigation, there is no doubt in backing and voting for
Ralph Nader.
http://www.votenader.org/about/

Posted by: Judge | October 1, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm

*** Obama has no credit of his own to stand on, he has to use styrofoam Greek pillars to create an atmosphere of false greatness … ***
And McCain is using a make-up artist from American Idol to make himself look younger. Who cares?

Posted by: Concerned American | October 1, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm

Okay Barr smear attackers;
Tell what is so good about being a TRILLION and a half in debt? Or how sh*****g on the Constitution is a good quality in a candidate? Why don’t you tell me how great it will be when McBama get’s us into another war? Tell me how tripling our taxes is going to help the economy? Amswer those questions then go back to your petty squabling, it’s still your right to under the constitution, for now.
Voting on principal, voting Libertarian

Posted by: GMSilvia | October 1, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm

My God ! I read a lot of sweet dreamers here and desperate McInsane supporters… Now that McSink has gambled his own campaign with Sara Fallin’ you’re ready to find the most despicable reasons just to attack Sen. Obama and not vote for him, even if it’s just in your own interest doing so, just because you’ve got nothing else left to do, poor you !
Stop attacking Sen. Obama, it won’t make you feel better.
This election isn’t about him, it’s about the country and what we need to do to take it back.
Your republicans buddies and Bushie’s policies have destroyed this country, destroyed our standing in the world and McInsane wants to continue the exact same failed policies, why ? That’s “masochism”. Finally we have a candidate who’s willing to fight for the American people. Instead of throwing all kind of stuff against Sen. Obama, you better educate yourselves about the candidate and learn for yourselves about his policies and plans; So ya don’t be stupid here, it ain’t gonna help you, make your own education and learn the issues:
1- http://www.barackobama.com/learn/meet_barack.php
2- http://www.barackobama.com/issues/
McInsane has been lying about Obama policies from the beginning; lies don’t pay, one day they backfire. That’s exactly what’s happening to McShame.
So, stop the drama and make your own education about Obama, it ain’t gonna kill ya, hight ?!

Posted by: Damon | October 1, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm

PALIN, be yourself … you are doing good just being you …
You have our vote Palin … so relax … be yourself … stand on what you have done …
I was so excited to get my election booklet and dying to get my absentee ballot … MCCAIN/PALIN it is …
We dont want Obama and no singing kids can change our minds, Obama …
and no styrofoam Greek pillars can make us think you are great ….
Obama, you are NOTHING …. and EMPTY VESSEL MAKING SOUNDS … Do us a favor and go back to Illinois ..

Posted by: GOBACKTOILLINOIS | October 1, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm

I went to and read everything at 6 different candidate sites, how many here have been to more than one?

Posted by: GMSilvia | October 1, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm

Judge Wrote: “Mr. Cutler and Obama do not recognize the real problem with health care costs. I looked at a WSJ article and Mr. Cutler missed too many important points.”
Hi sweetie.. perhaps you missed the Economic Policy Institutes analysis, which supports pretty much everyone elses analysis (well, I guess except yours and a few other ‘questionable’ sources that is)..
http://www.epi.org/content.cfm/pm126

Posted by: Janice | October 1, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm

** Obama and McCain do not have a good health care plan. At least McCain makes people do something other than depend on the taxpayers to pay for every human need. **
You are incorrect in your assessment. It’s not a free ride, but has guaranteed eligibility, which is one of the main reasons why tens of millions of Americans cannot get insurance today. Please make your vote on an informed decision, not on fear and ignorance.

Posted by: BillyBob | October 1, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm

I´m fed up of both parties. The more I know politicians the more I despise them. They are all paid by lobbies. The big financial companies have made a lot of money and led our economy to disaster and now we have to rescue them with our money. I won´t vote. Neither McCain nor Obama deserve my vote. F…. both.

Posted by: Jonathan | October 1, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm

On November 4th, can we vote “Present” ?

Posted by: Uncle Moe | October 1, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm

** On November 4th, can we vote “Present” ? **
Yup, you sure can dear.. but it won’t do much good. You can also do like McCain likes to do, just don’t show up. He has missed more votes in the 110th Congress than any other senator.. over 64% of them.

Posted by: janice | October 1, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm

Why isn’t the press raking McCain over the coals over his being a part of the Keating 5 scandal? Why isn’t the press raking McCain/ “Mr.Straight Shooter” over the coals about the numerous times that he cheated on his first wife before and after Viet Nam including with current wife Cindy? How’s that for character? If Obama had that kind of trash in his background, there would be constant reminders on the first page of the news. The press was all over Obama about what Rev. Wright, who is not running for President, said. What about what McCain, who is running for President,DID!!! The man lied to his family and now America. He doesn’t deserve to be President.

Posted by: My2cents | October 1, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm

Janice
Perhaps, you should better understand my post. You have been duped by the pharmaceutical companies into believing they can cure all your sicknesses. That is a lie and it is a lie that more and more good doctors are acknowledging.
Obama wants to spend trillions of dollars into a medical system that has failed the people. Let Obama tell me how he can stop these lies from the pharmaceutical companies and I will listen. He cannot because all the lies go back to man named JD Rockefeller. That is the AMA founder and contributor to the medical schools that push doctors to use the prescription drugs.
You Obama supporters are so narrow in your thinking and so blinded by misconceptions and lies.
After a thorough investigation, there is no doubt in backing and voting for
Ralph Nader.
http://www.votenader.org/about/
No Votes For Obama. Obama failed our investigation. McCain has improved his position and is moving up for consideration in the presidential election

Posted by: Judge | October 1, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm

Fat chance that Obama is ahead. Liberals cannot explain what he means about change. Obama talks vague and his blind supporters fill in the blanks. He is friend with bad people and liberals make excuses for his bad behavior and lack of experience.

Posted by: jim | October 1, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm

Jim said: “Fat chance that Obama is ahead. Liberals cannot explain what he means about change.”
Oh dear, Jim, are you serious honey? First and most obvious is the tax plan.. McCain wants to continue with reganomics which has proven to be a failure, and instead promote what I guess you would call a ‘trickle up’ policy.
He represents a change in foreign policy and promotes diplomacy and dialog over military might. He want’s to close the enron loophole asap, which will cause an immediate change in current gas prices (while McCain says that congress is investigating the issue). He wants to change our direction on energy independence, moving to alternative fuels much quicker than the current oil president (and McCain has the same stance).
How much more would you like to hear dear? Have you not investigated the plans put forth by both candidates? It sure doesn’t sound like it.

Posted by: janice | October 1, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm

Children singing about Obama …?
What do you think we are, Obama … ?
Communist America …
Our children singing about you like those brain-washed Chinese children singing Mao’s praises?
Get off your ego, Obama … you are NOTHING
You DONT HAVE OUR VOTE AND WILL NEVER HAVE OUR VOTE …

Posted by: Freak | October 1, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm

Mr. Present aka BO … decided to be Mr. Absent …
“call me if you need me?”
Obama, you are right … Washington doesn’t need you … you are Irrelevant … so go back to Illinois or wherever you please … We really dont care from where you came and to where you want to go …
Just NOT THE WHITE HOUSE …
VOTE SANITY – VOTE MCCAIN/PALIN

Posted by: 35 days to good riddens Obama | October 1, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm

Judge wrote: “Obama wants to spend trillions of dollars into a medical system that has failed the people”
Oh my, Judge.. don’t you realize that McCain will still use the existing medical system as well? And because he encourages private coverage, more Americans will be stuck with NO coverage due to existing conditions, even if they could afford it.
Please dear, don’t waste your vote on Nader.. regardless of any third party candidates superior views, a third party vote will be a waste of time. You might as well vote for me or just stay at home.

Posted by: janice | October 1, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm

Every anti-Obama post I’ve seen on this board is filled with venomous, reactionary, tripe. If you oppose Obama, it’s not good enough to say he’s a liberal, or a terrorist – that’s obviously far-fetched, desperate Rovian swift-boating. If you really believe McCain and Palin are better suited to lead this country out of the desperate trouble Bush and his cronies have got us into, for the love of god EXPLAIN WHY. I’m ready to listen; until then, I’m voting Obama.

Posted by: tom | October 1, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm

I have tried Tom.. unfortunately, most are completely unable to do so. I believe it is because there really is no rational reason for supporting McCain, and most are simply opposed to Obama for non-rational reasons as those you cited.

Posted by: janice | October 1, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm

This type of change…I’m in this race to take those tax breaks away
from companies that are moving jobs overseas
and put them in the pockets of hard working
Americans who deserve it. And I won’t raise the
minimum wage every ten years – I will raise it
to keep pace so that workers don’t’ fall behind.
That is why I am in it. To protect the American
worker. To fight for the American worker.”

Posted by: gman | October 1, 2008, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm

35 days and we will know if America is a NATION OF PINHEADS …
ONLY A NATION OF PINHEADS will vote a OBAMA as their president …
An Obama whose resume reads “written 2 memoirs for personal gain”
An Obama whose close friends are Ayers, Rezko, Rev. Wright, Jim Johnson of Fannie Mae. Close friend to the terrorist that bombed the World Trade Center .. ? Are these all coincidentals or does it reflect a PATTERN OF BEHAVIOR …
ARE WE MAD AMERICA … IS THIS THE MAN WE WANT AS OUR PRESIDENT???
WHEN IN DOUBT, ALWAYS ERR ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION AND VOTE MCCAIN/PALIN
IF we vote Obama, we ARE A NATION OF PINHEADS and deserve to live the next 4 years in the GUTTER …

Posted by: AreWeANationOfPinHeads | October 1, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm

This type of change;“We … have an obligation to protect Social Security and ensure that it’s
a safety net the American people can count on today, tomorrow and
forever. Social Security is the cornerstone of the social compact in this
country. …Coming together to meet this challenge won’t be easy. …It
will take restoring a sense of shared purpose in Washington and across
this country. But if you put your trust in me – if you give me ‘your hand
and your heart’ – then that’s exactly what I intend to do as your next
President.”
–Barack Obama, Speech in Des Moines, IA,
October 27, 2007

Posted by: gman | October 1, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm

Record of Advocacy: Obama has worked to promote civil rights and fairness in the criminal justice system throughout his career. As a community organizer, Obama helped 150,000 African Americans register to vote. As a civil rights lawyer, Obama litigated employment discrimination, housing discrimination, and voting rights cases. As a State Senator, Obama passed one of the country’s first racial profiling laws and helped reform a broken death penalty system. And in the U.S. Senate, Obama has been a leading advocate for protecting the right to vote, helping to reauthorize the Voting Rights Act and leading the opposition against discriminatory barriers to voting.

Posted by: gman | October 1, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm

Obama´s record:
130 times voting ´present´at the Senate.
Gosh, this is really change!!!

Posted by: Stephen from Indiana | October 2, 2008, 12:01 am 12:01 am

Improving Our Schools:
From the moment our children step into a classroom, the single most important factor in determining their achievement is their teacher. Barack Obama and Joe Biden value teachers and the central role that they play in education. They will work to ensure competent, effective teachers in schools that are organized for success. The Obama-Biden K-12 plan will expand service scholarships to recruit and prepare teachers who commit to working in underserved districts. To support teachers, Obama and Biden will foster ongoing improvements in teacher education, provide mentoring for beginning teachers, create incentives for shared planning and learning time for teachers. To retain teachers, Obama and Biden will support career pathways that provide ongoing professional development and reward accomplished teachers for their expertise. This Career Ladder initiative will help eliminate teacher shortages in hard-to-staff areas and subjects, improve teacher retention rates, strengthen teacher preparation programs, improve professional development, and better utilize and reward accomplished teachers.

Posted by: gman | October 2, 2008, 12:06 am 12:06 am

–( Obama´s record:
130 times voting ´present´at the Senate.
Gosh, this is really change!!! )–
Claim: Obama voted “Present” 130 times while in the Illinois Senate
Fact: True/Misleading
Reality:
It is true that during his 8 years in the Illinois Senate, Mr. Obama voted 130 times as “Present”. However, that represents only roughly 3% of the 4000 votes he cast in his 8 years there, and is not as unusual as many critics would lead people to believe. In an analysis of Obamas voting record while in the Illinois Senate, the New York Times wrote:
“Sometimes the “present’ votes were in line with instructions from Democratic leaders or because he objected to provisions in bills that he might otherwise support. At other times, Mr. Obama voted present on questions that had overwhelming bipartisan support. In at least a few cases, the issue was politically sensitive.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/20/us/politics/20obama.html
While the McCain campaign has continued to use this in attacks against Obama, they are hardly in a position to be criticizing. In the US Senate, McCain has missed more votes than any other Senator in the current 110th Congress, missing 412 votes, or over 64% overall. And in fact, Obama has cast more votes (348 votes) than McCain has (231 votes).
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/m000303/

Posted by: janice | October 2, 2008, 12:07 am 12:07 am

Fighting for Pay Equity:
Despite decades of progress, women still make only 77 cents for every dollar a man makes. Throughout his career, Barack Obama and Joe Biden have championed the right of women to receive equal pay for equal work. In the Illinois State Senate, Obama cosponsored and voted for the Illinois Equal Pay Act, which provided 330,000 more women protection from pay discrimination. In the U.S. Senate, Obama joined a bipartisan group of Senators to introduce the Fair Pay Restoration Act, a bill to overturn the Supreme Court’s recent 5-4 decision in Ledbetter v. Goodyear Tire & Rubber Company. The bill would restore the clear intent of Congress that workers must have a reasonable time to file a pay discrimination claim after they become victims of discriminatory compensation. Obama is also a cosponsor of Senator Tom Harkin’s (D-IA) Fair Pay Act. As president, Obama will continue to promote paycheck equity and close the wage gap between men and women.

Posted by: gman | October 2, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am

NationofPinheads…..only a pinhead would vote for McCain and caribou barbie after 8 years of GWB and the repuglicans.

Posted by: Mark | October 2, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am

If you were the boss, who would you hire???
OBAMA: Harvard law professor, Juris Doctor of law degree, constitutional law expert, Senate committees: foreign affairs, homeland security, veterans affairs, family, education, health.
BIDEN: Juris Doctor of law degree, Senate committees: Foreign affairs (chair), economy, health, crime, women’s affairs, education, technology, environment
McBUSH: graduated from the naval academy in the bottom 5% of his class, senate committees: economy, environment, official conduct (arguably the 3 biggest Republican failures!!!!!!!!!)
PITBULL PALIN: went to 6 different universities before finally getting a BA degree in journalism, no domestic or foreign policy experience but can see Russia from her house.
SERIOUSLY, THIS IS A NO BRAINER!!!!
If you vote McBush/Pitbull, the fate of your country will be in jeopardy. Everyone here in Europe is laughing at Americans— America has become the butt of all jokes— people are asking, how can they seriously consider voting for McBush and his Pitbull for another 4 years of Bush’s failed policies? Don’t they ever learn???
Remember the frontpage headline of London’s Daily Mirror newspaper back in 2004 when Americans re-elected Bush: HOW CAN 59 MILLION PEOPLE BE SO DUMB?

Posted by: kate buckingham | October 2, 2008, 12:10 am 12:10 am

All you McCain/Palin supporters we have given you eight years of your policies and it has proven to be Disastrous, give Obama his 4, telling us to vote for Mcsame/Palin is like jumping from a airplane without a second parachute.

Posted by: gman | October 2, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am

Only a PINHEAD can vote for a Mr. Present as his/her President.
Only a PINHEAD will vote for an Obama who has NO REFORM to show for after 10 years of political office …. that he has to erect styrofoam Greek Pillars to “look great”

Posted by: PINHEADs | October 2, 2008, 12:29 am 12:29 am

BOB BARR = Too Much Eye liner

Posted by: jay | October 2, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am

Main Entry: pin·head
Pronunciation: \ˈpin-ˌhed\
Function: noun
Date: 1593
1 : the head of a pin
2 : something very small or insignificant
3 : a very dull or stupid person
4 : George W. Bush or a supporter of same

Posted by: zippy | October 2, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am

–( he has to erect styrofoam Greek Pillars to “look great” )–
And McCain uses a make-up artist from American Idol to make himself look younger. Can we now discuss their choice in suits as well? Get a life man!

Posted by: janice | October 2, 2008, 12:40 am 12:40 am

Are we a nation of pinheads … find out in 35 days ….

Posted by: PinHeadNation | October 2, 2008, 1:02 am 1:02 am

Sorry ABC, this is just more spin by liberal media….I AM A HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN WHO WILL NEVER VOTE FOR AN OBAMA AND THERE ARE MILLIONS LIKE ME OUT THERE.
SICK OF McCAIN BEING BLAMED FOR ANY ECONOMIC CRISIS AND OBAMA WON’T BE ABLE TO DO JACK SH– FOR THIS COUNTRY BUT RAISE OUR TAXES, PEOPLE….GET REAL.
NATIONAL HEALTH CARE..NOT, $2,000 FOR EVERY COLLEGE KID….NOT, PONY IN EVERY BACK YARD….NOT!
NEVER BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA AND HIS FRIGGIN RACIST, TERRIORIST, CRIMINAL FRIENDS…..NEVER.

Posted by: DLM | October 2, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am

Have faith…poll numbers go up and down. If it’s close, McCain will probably win. Remember, this (according to the infinite wisdom of the MSM-and Lord knows they don’t like to be wrong) is supposed to have been a cake walk for the Dems. They are having problems. They have had problems. They criticized Bush for running on fear-yeah, I guess I shouldn’t worry about being flown into a skyscraper-silly me! But now they’re capitalizing (no offense meant, Comrades) on irrational economic fears that nobody understands.
If the MSM can suppress the fact that this whole mess began with Liberals forcing banks to give loans to minorities who couldn’t pay back the loans, and if they can suppress the fact that it was these Liberal Democrats who said that Fannie and Freddie were just hunky-dory, then Obama may indeed win.
But they won’t criticize because they don’t want to be labeled as racists-God , nooooo…not that!!! Besides, Obama IS their God.
But, if more moderates see that hateful Pelosi speech and the above comes out, the polls will change-and we’re seeing that a little now.
BTW, anybody else here think Palin’s been sandbagging and is going to rip Biden a new one?

Posted by: Grand Old Party | October 2, 2008, 1:05 am 1:05 am

Pinhead
head of pin
something small or insignificant
dull or stupid
Obama and his close associates and friends, jailbird Rezko, Ayers, bomber of the World Trade Center, Rev. Wright, Johnson … shall we continue?
PINHEADS PINHEADS PINHEADES …
Vote Obama as President and the Iranian President will be right … we become a nation going DOWN …

Posted by: PINHEADS | October 2, 2008, 1:12 am 1:12 am

Grand Ole Party
yea if Obama loses it will be Pelosis speech on the bailout as the defining moment… both Sen Reid and Rep Pelosi need to be defeated!

Posted by: staniam | October 2, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am

DLM
the obamanation thinks they have it like they think they cheated their just demise several times this election cycle… not so fast obamamorons!

Posted by: staniam | October 2, 2008, 1:15 am 1:15 am

HEY REPUBLICANS!!
Palin will effectively end McCain’s bid for the White House tomorrow night, so you Republicans can take a nice vacation (along with McCain) after the debate…
Just listen for the big FLUSH about halfway (or earlier) through the debate tomorrow night. That will be Palin flushing any hopes and dreams for a McCain win in November!!!
After tomorrow nights debate:
Palin = LAUGHINGSTOCK!
McCAIN = LAUGHINGSTOCK for picking Palin!

Posted by: Davis | October 2, 2008, 1:16 am 1:16 am

Ayers didn’t bomb the WTC…

Posted by: Grand Old Party | October 2, 2008, 1:18 am 1:18 am

Ken Blackwell , African American, Republican, Ohio, made a very sobering observation the other night on Hannity and Colmes. He was discussing Obamas ties to radical left people, and organizations. He mentioned Ayers, Alinsky, and Acorn, then stated, “and we’re not even out of the (A’s ) yet ” Where is ABC on this stuff? Never mind, I already know

Posted by: Badger | October 2, 2008, 1:19 am 1:19 am

Davis
youve been set up again.. we told you that your man will never make it to the White House and its your fault for hosting him when he made the statement abotu people clinting to guns and religion and havign antipathy for people who arent like them! By th e way we are goingto hand you back your beloved frauline Pelosi on a platter for making that speech the other day

Posted by: staniam | October 2, 2008, 1:20 am 1:20 am

staniam,
You were wrong about that loser Hillary, and you are wrong about your new “losers” McCain and brain dead Palin!
The only word the American people will use when they discuss Palin 24 hours from now will be LAUGHINGSTOCK!!!!

Posted by: Davis | October 2, 2008, 1:22 am 1:22 am

Badger
ACORN will seal the deal for Mccain… these Obamabots sealed their fate by making them the main fundarising arm of the campaign to hide conributions from radicals like Davis

Posted by: staniam | October 2, 2008, 1:22 am 1:22 am

Davis
Palin may not be the final running mate for Mccain and neither might biden be for Obama… they can cange this late… and if Hillary were to replace Biden you wouldnt vote for them because you are too much of a schmuck you are probably a personal friend if you know what I mean of that Markos guy from Dailykos who likes to wear rouge!

Posted by: staniam | October 2, 2008, 1:25 am 1:25 am

HEY REPUBLICANS!!!
You have less than 24 hours before your Moose with lipstick Palin, takes McCain and all the rest of you Republicans and PUMAs down the drain!
I bet all of you Republicans long for the days right after McCain drug her out of Alaska to be VP… Those were the days, huh?
I remember how all of you Republicans were dancing in the streets back then, slamming all of the Obama supporters…
That was before you and the WHOLE COUNTRY found out she was DUMB AS A ROCK and a pathological LIAR!!!
So as you watch tomorrow nights debate, listen for that sound. That would be the sound of all McCain’s hopes and dreams for the presidency going down the drain! It will sound like this – FLUSH!!!!
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Davis | October 2, 2008, 1:25 am 1:25 am

“Palin will effectively end McCain’s bid for the White House tomorrow night, so you Republicans can take a nice vacation (along with McCain) after the debate…”
Uh, if McCain loses we won’t be able to afford a nice vacation. We’ll have to support all those poor folks out there.
Hey, a few years down the line when the Obama Truth Squads are kicking down your door because you weren’t Patriotic and paid all your taxes or voted the wrong, way, don’t look for help…we won’t be on a nice vacation, we’ll be in a re-education camp somewhere.
You all thought Palin was an idiot about 0.0003 seconds after you heard her name. Besides, you guys think everybody without a (D) by their name is an idiot. Must be nice to be right all the time. If I vote Obama will my IQ be as high as yours? Pleeez, pretty pleez, tell us how you guys do it!

Posted by: Grand Old Party | October 2, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am

Davis
why dont you call yourself the libeeral q@@r that you are and be done with it… you will not dictate the election results and when you lose we are going to hunt you down and kick you out!

Posted by: staniam | October 2, 2008, 1:28 am 1:28 am

Grand Old Party
yea Davis probably was one of the ones who went to Conneticut in 2006 and tried to defeat lieberman…they see nothign but their own agenda…abotu the nearest thing to the obama camp is that movie with Denzel washington about that Drug Dealer Frank Whats his name from the 70s

Posted by: staniam | October 2, 2008, 1:31 am 1:31 am

Grand Old Party,
You all thought Palin was an idiot about 0.0003 seconds after you heard her name.
————————————–
Your wrong Grand, most of us at least listened to a couple of her speeches, watched McCain try to hide her from the press and did our research into her lies (bridge to nowhere) she was telling right out of the gate…
Then we pronounced her a FAKE, a LIAR and an idiot!
You see Obama supporters are fundamentally different from Republicans, we tell the TRUTH!!!
And in less that 24 hours the Republicans and the McCain campaign are TOAST!! And no amount of FOX noise spin is going to change that!!!

Posted by: Davis | October 2, 2008, 1:34 am 1:34 am

Davis
No you didnt listen to her shes not going to be the VP candidate anyway and neither will Biden you will accept lieberman as Mccains vp and clinton ans obamas vp

Posted by: staniam | October 2, 2008, 1:36 am 1:36 am

Polls change daily, but ANY poll needs to shave off at least 3 POINTS for Obama, per DONNA BRAZILLE (Obama’s girlfriend). People SAY they’ll vote the black guy, and don’t in the booth. Heck…..keep putting it out there that BO is way in the lead, and the drunk college kids won’t turn out Nov. 4., as they haven’t in the past. This election isn’t black/white, or man/woman, as much as it’s young and stupid vs. older/wiser.
VOTE THE GROWN UP CHOICE….SEN. JOHN SYDENY McCAIN and NEVER BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA!!!!

Posted by: DLM | October 2, 2008, 1:37 am 1:37 am

DLM
thats true and my vote for mccain and lack of any financial support for the democrats or working hrs for the democrats will hurt them in this state

Posted by: staniam | October 2, 2008, 1:42 am 1:42 am

Hey Davis…little newsflash…AMERICANS VOTE TOP OF THE TICKET 100% OF THE TIME…..or Dan Quale would have been a problem.
Seriously….even tho this election is a little different because the #1 on the DEM ticket needs to be hand held by Biden, and Palin will be a quick study in her #2 position….I WILL BE VOTING TOP OF THE TICKET…..John McCain (I wanted Hillary, without Obama).

Posted by: DLM | October 2, 2008, 1:42 am 1:42 am

staniam,
Unlike you I have been a supporter of my candidate Obama since the beginning…
You were first a Hillary Koolaid drinking insect, and when that didn’t work you jumped over to that old fool McSenile. I remember how happy you were when McDummy rolled out that lying pig with lipstick a month ago!
I just proudly contributed to the Obama campaign last night and you just sit in your underwear in North Carolina typing insults in the dark!!!
So tomorrow after Palin flushes the whole McKeating-5 campaign, maybe you can take a nice long vacation!
If you remember, this is exactly what I said would happen to that meteor Palin streaking across the sky! I said within a month she would flame out and hit the ground with a big dumb THUD!! So who was right fool?
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Obama/Biden ’08!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Davis | October 2, 2008, 1:43 am 1:43 am

Davis
Nope… I was a proud Hillary supporter from the beginning and I will be voting for the best candidate this time which is not Obama… you are mad because California wont make a difference in this election … and I am working and in clothes and you are the only one int he dark

Posted by: staniam | October 2, 2008, 1:46 am 1:46 am

Davis
you admit then that Obama knew what he was doing when he made that lipstick on a pig comment… Michelle Obama wears walmart dresses by the why you attack palin because Michelle cant compete with Palin and is a little backwoods and homely at that

Posted by: staniam | October 2, 2008, 1:49 am 1:49 am

MORE BAD NEWS REPUBLICANS!!
CBS News Poll 09/27 – 09/30
Obama = 50%
McCain = 41% Obama +9
Everyday Obama ticks up another point!!!
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html

Posted by: Davis | October 2, 2008, 1:49 am 1:49 am

davis
the poll of polls have him at a 4 pt lead… and the electoral college will swing back 100 votes in mccains favor when Obama does somethign else stupid

Posted by: staniam | October 2, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am

Davis….do they have computers in prison? You sound like an inmate, I.Q. zero. So full of hatred like all the Obama supporters. We Hillary supporters remember…we have long memories and you know what they say..”hell hath no fury like a woman scorned”. Even Hillary is voting McCain. I’m not waiting another 24 years to see a smart woman on a ticket either (although I would have voted McCain no matter who he chose as VP).
Take all your hatred and visit Trinity Church in South Chicago, why don’t you?

Posted by: DLM | October 2, 2008, 1:52 am 1:52 am

Davis
you admit then that Obama knew what he was doing when he made that lipstick on a pig comment…
====================================
Oh Gee you caught us staniam! Of course we all knew what he said you dope!
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Davis | October 2, 2008, 1:52 am 1:52 am

DLM
dont worry the October surprise will be Rev Wrights book! Even Davis cant write a check big enough to stop that from happening!

Posted by: staniam | October 2, 2008, 1:54 am 1:54 am

Davis
As I recall, there were alot of Gore, Kerry, Dukakis, and Mondale supporters pounding their chests like gorillas about polling numbers also.
Where are they now?

Posted by: Badger | October 2, 2008, 1:55 am 1:55 am

DLM,
Quit your whining and get over it, Sweetie!
I don’t hate anybody, I just don’t like staniam because he has proven himself to be a lying worm, consistently over time…
First for Hillary and now for McCain and that dumb as a rock running mate Palin…

Posted by: Davis | October 2, 2008, 1:56 am 1:56 am

I’d hide from the Press, too! Kind of like Barry did in the heart of the bail out crisis…different reasons, though. Palin will get attacked, insulted, and hit with ‘gotcha’ questions. Barry will sit back-if it ain’t broke and is working for you, then don’t try to fix it.
Whatever happened to the talk about these precious issues we’re supposed to talk about every time something bad comes about concerning Obama? His campaign is a cult of personality from the word go…but you can’t attack him personally, regardless of the implications of his judgment and ideology. As a voter, I want to know what the candidate is about-all I’ve heard is sickening talking points about Mr. Wonderful.
Palin may have been shielded from the press, but the press has been shielding Obama and Biden.
The Democratic Party is TOAST whether they win or lose. If he wins it’s going to be scandal after scandal (especially if Rezko turns stool pigeon)-the Hillary thing is not going away. We’ll be tried by every petty dictator out there and of course, Al-Qaeda. The Socialists won’t be able to resist higher taxes for their programs, and remember, Fannie and Freddie are still around. Things will be so screwed up, even Hillary won’t have a chance in 2012.
If he loses, nobody will every take the ‘Change’ BS seriously again. It’s a hi-octane campaign and people can only handle so much of it. Either way this country is dangerously divided.
Funny how Biden can say the stupidest crap, but he’s a genius-oh, and funny. Think about, if possible, from an objective standpoint.
And consider what’s looming on the horizon:
Palin/Jindal ’12

Posted by: Grand Old Party | October 2, 2008, 1:56 am 1:56 am

Remember Davis….you have to shave off at least three points in any Obama poll because people on the phone say they’ll vote for the empty black man, and get in the booth and DON’T. He can only win if he emails every idiot who got his 3AM text about Biden and reminds them endlessly about going to vote. Hope the kids are too drunk from the kool aid to find the voting booth.

Posted by: DLM | October 2, 2008, 1:57 am 1:57 am

Then you are lying cheating corrupt ACORN contributing dunces… to be that brazen means you have no business being in the poltical process… if nothing else Pelosi is out as speaker and Clinton will be majority leader you will have to pay for what youve done!

Posted by: staniam | October 2, 2008, 1:58 am 1:58 am

Stan….the Wright book won’t be published until January….he was threatened not to release it in October….too bad, as he’d make MORE money BEFORE Nov. 4. January is old news and the kool aid drinkers won’t want to read about their messiah, and the Republican won’t buy Wright’s racist crap….so he stands to lose.
He should publish it dispite his threats from Obama campaign.

Posted by: DLM | October 2, 2008, 2:01 am 2:01 am

Davis
dont call anyone sweetie you are a brazen reverse racist and sexist!

Posted by: staniam | October 2, 2008, 2:01 am 2:01 am

Badger,
Those guys didn’t have the “perfect storm” of the economy and an asinine VP pick like Palin on their side!
Mark my words you Republicans and former Hillary losers, you have less than 24 hours left, before Palin flushes the McCain campaign with her sheer stupidity!
You guys should turn on the TV sometime, to any Network besides FOX Noise and you can see what I am talking about!!
Palin goes into this debate tomorrow as a LAUGHINGSTOCK! And no amount of spin and lies will save her or the McCain campaign after tomorrow night!!!!!
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Davis | October 2, 2008, 2:03 am 2:03 am

DLM
that is too bad but they cant stop all the corruption from within from getting out like Bush did! if any other people that always vote democratic vote straight republican then it will be close

Posted by: staniam | October 2, 2008, 2:04 am 2:04 am

Davis
dont be so cocky… if you are wrong dont ever come on here again because we will trash you…Obama et al are corrupt and you know it… you just are confident because you have the antithesis of Bush in Obama but thats not a good thing!

Posted by: staniam | October 2, 2008, 2:06 am 2:06 am

Davis….you are hoping “Sarah America” doesn’t connect with “Joe 6 Pack”. She IS Middle America and more relatable that the other three! She serves this country and comes from humble beginnings…she is the American dream and loves this country, more than Obama does. His ego always comes first…not my candidates. You have to friggin earn the keys to the WH. McCain comes from a family who has served this country over 100 years and even back to General Washington. Obama Sr. was a goat herder, came here for 2 years for free education (knocked up BO’s teen age mom while having a wife and kid in Kenya)…and left BO at 2 years old to go back to Kenya and kill himself driving drunk.
Glad the McCain’s did more for this country than BO’s family.
Why won’t Obama “I am my brother’s keeper” send some sheckles to George who lives in a hut on $l.25 a month?

Posted by: DLM | October 2, 2008, 2:10 am 2:10 am

staniam,
You can’t get rid of me that easily!
I will be back here often until the election and even after. Just to rub your Republican noses in the moose droppings!!
Mark my words though, less than 24 hours until the big Palin FLUSH of the McCain campaign!
After the debate:
PALIN = LAUGHINSTOCK!! And the next Saturday Night Live skit!
McKeating-5 = LAUGHINGSTOCK for picking Palin!!
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Obama/Biden ’08!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Davis | October 2, 2008, 2:12 am 2:12 am

DLM
yep Obama has family relationship issues and thats unamerican! Davis probably has issues with family and religion so he can relate to Obama grasping at some kind of fantasy

Posted by: staniam | October 2, 2008, 2:13 am 2:13 am

Davis
I can and I will! Im not a republican Im a personal friend of the Clintons and you are trying to steal whats not rightly yours… its fitting that the same chicago machine that had possible involvement in kennedy issues is engineeering Obama

Posted by: staniam | October 2, 2008, 2:16 am 2:16 am

Davis….you are hoping “Sarah America” doesn’t connect with “Joe 6 Pack”.
========================================
If that brain dead idiot represents America, then we are all in trouble. My 13 year old daughter is smarter than she is and would probably make a better VP!
If American’s standards have sunk this low, that we would accept an idiot FAKE poser as VP, then our country is really lost…..

Posted by: Davis | October 2, 2008, 2:16 am 2:16 am

The comments here by McCain supporters continue to completely duck issues and facts.
Pulling out ‘truth squad’ references just show ignorance on that issue.. one where it was simply an attempt to make local law enforcement actually uphold existing laws regarding false and deceptive advertising, not an attempt to squelch free speech.
Claims like if Obama wins having to support the poor is also a good indication, and usually a reference to his national health program and not understanding what it is. Just an FYI, McCains and Obamas plans are close in cost, but Obamas would provide for much more coverage than McCains, and be more efficient at doing so. It is not a free ride, and participation is optional. The main difference is that it would allow people who cannot obtain insurance due to pre-existing conditions, and would actually save businesses providing health care benefits and estimated $140 billion annually. It is also estimated to raise coverage to the currently uninsured target base by 47%, while McCains would only cover 5%.
If you want to state a case for your selected candidate, at least do so in a rational manner, instead of just repeating sound bites without even knowing the facts behind them.
How about taxes? I have yet to hear one single McCain supporter explain how cutting taxes will benefit the country, particularly when we are at war. Anybody with higher than a 4th grade education knows that you cannot continue cutting taxes while increasing spending. Someone said the other day that McCain will end the war and the deficit will magically start to go down, which shows a lack of even basic economics.
Obamas plan will raise taxes, but on only the top 2% of the country (those households earning more than $250,000). This is on individuals only. The corporate tax rate will not change, and capital gains will return to a level less than that under Clinton; he has indicated, 25%, but all existing exemptions will remain in place. So unless you are going to make a HUGE profit on your home sale, it won’t make any more of a difference that it would now. If you are a senior, he proposes a $50,000 exemption on top of whatever others you have, so seniors, the ones who are struggling the most during retirement, will typically not have to pay any taxes.
We have the second highest wealth distribution inequality in the world, second only to Switzerland, where the top 1% controls over 40% of the wealth.
So, I ask again, HOW can McCain reduce taxes and continue paying for not only normal government spending and funding for two wars? Those earmarks is a fraction of a percent towards the cost.

Posted by: Concerned American | October 2, 2008, 2:16 am 2:16 am

Davis
You got the easy part done

Posted by: Badger | October 2, 2008, 2:16 am 2:16 am

Davis
thats real smart making your kids a issue just because you had a bad childhood you deserve what you are going to get and its not an obama presidency!

Posted by: staniam | October 2, 2008, 2:18 am 2:18 am

Davis
Continues to mock Palin when she has actually achieved far greater resuts for her constituents than his messiah, obambi,, who has achieved,,,,,???. Simply stupid.

Posted by: Badger | October 2, 2008, 2:19 am 2:19 am

Davis
I can and I will! Im not a republican Im a personal friend of the Clintons.
=========================================
You see what a LIAR staniam is?? A personal friend of the Clintons??????
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!!!!!!!!!
You are NOTHING but a Sicko-Wacko staniam, a small little lying worm, typing insults in your underwear in the dark…
If you really were a friend you would be out supporting Obama like Hillary and Bill are!!!!

Posted by: Davis | October 2, 2008, 2:19 am 2:19 am

Concerned american
Obama will raise taxes and he does not support universal healthcare because he cant pay for it.. we will take you down and you deserve it!

Posted by: staniam | October 2, 2008, 2:20 am 2:20 am

Davis
not tue…there is now law that says you have to support someone just because your former candidate says so… you arent getting the best of anyone if anything you are a very weak thug that has too much money so you sit around on these blogs just to be annoying

Posted by: staniam | October 2, 2008, 2:23 am 2:23 am

badger
yep you shouldnt be able to win the presidency by default… and likely Obama would be worse than carter so he would be like bush in 2004 on his way out by the time he gets in!

Posted by: staniam | October 2, 2008, 2:24 am 2:24 am

Well it is time for Nightline here on the West coast. I don’t want to miss more of the excerpts from the latest embarrassing Palin interview with Katie Couric today!!!
She can’t name a newspaper or magazine she reads or any supreme court decisions! Ha, ha, ha!!!!
This should be good, watching it all evening on CBC, CNN, MSNBC, etc. is OK, but when it is on Nightline it really reaches the whole country!!!
See all of you Republican fools tomorrow night. That is if you have the courage to come out after the debate and get POUNDED!!! It is going to be a massacre tomorrow for the Republicans!!
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Obam,a/Biden ’08!!!!

Posted by: Davis | October 2, 2008, 2:35 am 2:35 am

Davis
just go away

Posted by: staniam | October 2, 2008, 2:36 am 2:36 am

Davis at 2:16…THE FAKE IMPOSTER IS BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, who if it weren’t for the sake of HIS SKIN COLOR, wouldn’t be in this race. Any white guy with his resume, his lack of judgement, complete lack of experience WOULDN’T BE STILL IN THE RACE. Different rules for blacks, and I’m not afraid to say it. I am not racist. I would vote a black man….just not THIS black man.

Posted by: DLM | October 2, 2008, 2:37 am 2:37 am

Obama is an air head who care for NOTHING but himself. All who follow him are delusional.

Posted by: speedy_453 | October 2, 2008, 2:43 am 2:43 am

The candidacy of Hussein Obama is the result the debasing of america by the extreme left, from all the nonsense taught at schools to MTV. The youth seem to be drinking the cool aid and are running after this NEOPHITE and wind sniffer of OBAMA.

Posted by: speedy_453 | October 2, 2008, 2:52 am 2:52 am

Won’t it be surprising to lib Dems when they find out the whole country is not buying what the lib media is shoving down our throats? Republicans are a quieter group, but will riot in the voting booths….when pulling the lever for McCain/Palin….the alternative is UNACCEPTABLE!

Posted by: DLM | October 2, 2008, 2:53 am 2:53 am

Well, I asked above “If you want to state a case for your selected candidate, at least do so in a rational manner, instead of just repeating sound bites without even knowing the facts behind them.”
And yet, here I am still waiting for a single person to come forward and do so.
What a sad state this great Country has fallen into.

Posted by: Concerned American | October 2, 2008, 2:57 am 2:57 am

The media if it did its job right would be impartial and analytical and report the facts and events as they happen. But today’s media is a danger to the country since they are completely biased and are trying to influence the view of america with their distorted reporting in favor of the wind sniffer of OBAMA.

Posted by: speedy_453 | October 2, 2008, 3:03 am 3:03 am

Concerned.. I hear you! Is it no wonder that gallup polls show when you look at education level, the higher level of education, the more the vote shifts towards Obama. At postgraduate or higher, the difference is around 2/3 favoring Obama. Some people can’t make up their own minds based on reason and facts and can only repeat sound bites, misinformation and a long history of bigotry and hate. It is sad indeed.

Posted by: jj1221 | October 2, 2008, 3:04 am 3:04 am

jj1221: what in the world qualifies OBAMA for the presidency? What has he done for this country? And you, just because a person does not like your candidate, you want to label them as bigots. Doing so makes you nothing more than a real bigot. Obama is unqualified for the presidency, period. There is nothing bigot about saying that an unqualified person is unqualified. Obama is full of fluff and I’m surprised there are so many like you who don’t see OBAMA for what he is: panderer of the worst kind.

Posted by: speedy_453 | October 2, 2008, 3:10 am 3:10 am

To all liberals democrats who still have some love for america: do something patriotic on election day and vote for McCain.
McCain-Palin 2008! Victory!

Posted by: speedy_453 | October 2, 2008, 3:22 am 3:22 am

awsome speedy_453, we dems should vote mccain to be “patriotic”, and what’s that speedy? Oh right “Country First!” “small-town values” shouting those make it almost seem like your saying something

Posted by: rage.against | October 2, 2008, 3:50 am 3:50 am

Concerned American – prbly asleep by now but I couldn’t let this go …
law enforcement / advertising – but the “truth squad” teams are not applying same standards to Obama campaign advertising…which as even the NYTimes has noted is sinking to new levels? If it’s one-sided enforcement utilizing individuals who are representatives of public law enforcement, it’s heavy-handed and seems inappropriate.
on healthcare – Obama’s plan will add more people to the insurance pool if they option in, with no requirement that they do until the point at which they need medical care It addresses the symptoms (cost of health insurance), not the problem (high cost of American health care period). Adding people to the pool by making insurance “more affordable” doesn’t help the system – more people with presumably greater health risks adds costs to the system which then get passed on to the larger population. Just another form of income redistribution. McCain’s plan begins to target one of the greatest drivers behind the high costs – it involves the actual medical consumer in the decision-making chain and can begin to ping away at costs overall.
taxes -
(1) Many small business owners report their business income on personal forms, as solo proprietors etc. Taxing them @ higher rate does impact the economic growth engine overall – impacts frontline decisions on staffing, investment, etc. The problem comes from the cumulative impact – if each SMB cut business investment by $10K to offset increased taxes, the national impact is, of course, exponentially higher.
(2) talk about reciting campaign bullet points. Households earning $250K or more are not the top 2% of income. Per census data, the highest fifth (20% of the population) accounts for ~50% of overall income. A far cry from your stat.
BTW – check the recent FactCheck on Obama’s tax plan. $250K as a baseline catches a lot of people I know (double earners in metropolitan areas — not lawyers and drs etc, but managers in diverse corporate settings – IT, HR, Mkting, etc.). SSI/FICA, income withholding, mortgage (for a regular non-McMansion house), daycare, 401(k), energy, groceries, savings, etc takes a proportionate chunk out of their income.
The message from the Obama people seems to be – tough, buy a house in a lower-income neighborhood, move farther away from your job, send your kid to a community college – its more patriotic/fair to lessen people to the lowest standard than to raise people to the highest.
As for McCain’s plan – he does give higher % cuts where SMB owners and investors tend to be, to free up capital for investment. He also gives cuts to everyone else, just not as much as Obama. But – I repeat – he does give them to everybody. Many people will prefer that then the Robin Hood mentality of Obama (i.e, stealing from the more well=off is still stealing).

Posted by: ampost | October 2, 2008, 4:09 am 4:09 am

Let’s all just support Economic Violence by voting republican.
http://www.zazzle.com/economic_violence_bumpersticker-128038162598960921

Posted by: just give up | October 2, 2008, 4:12 am 4:12 am

–( what in the world qualifies OBAMA for the presidency? )–
What qualifies McCain?
–( What has he done for this country? )–
Fought for equal rights. Pushed for transparancy in government, for a shift towards alternative fuel, fought for better health care for all Americans, tried to bring an end to the war in Iraq in a sensible and insightful manner (and fully supported by recent testimony and study by the RAND corporation and the Iraq study group), pushed to reduce greenhouse emissions and improved fuel economy, attempted to close the enron loophole to reduce the gas prices we currently see, fought against discriminatory wage practices with minorities and woman, pushed for ethics reform in government.. should I go on?
–( And you, just because a person does not like your candidate, you want to label them as bigots )–
No, it’s when people deliberately do things like calling him “Hussein Obama”.. an obvious ploy by people who are indeed bigots and intolerant of those who are different. Something that flies in the face of what made this country great and our “We the people” upbringing.
–( Obama is full of fluff )–
Maybe you should open your eyes (or your mind) then. He is hardly full of fluff, and is indeed a very intelligent and gifted individual. Given the difficulties minorities face in this nation, his achievements are to be commended, not only in his education, but his teaching of constitutional law, fighting for the ‘have nots’ in our country and political career as well. Had he perhaps been a different skin color or had a typical American upbringing, this would most likely be a slam dunk for him, yet there are still people who harbor the mentality of those back in the time of Lincoln.
Perhaps you should get past your love of McCain and really look at the issues that face this country. Look at what the tax plans are between the two and how they would effect our country. Do you care about health care, which at current is in crisis in our country. The two candidates stance is vastly different on that point. Why is it that the real issues seem to be secondary with some people, when those are what will determine the course of our country for the next four (or longer) years?

Posted by: RedNeckJoe | October 2, 2008, 4:28 am 4:28 am

“BOTH” McCain/Palin are like watching a train wreck. It is very clear to any thinking person , this ticket is a danger to America “period”.
Tonights Debate will be interesting. All Biden has to do is just show up , and try to keep from “Laughing”.
Palin is an idiot , and she proved that to the world “all by herself”.

Posted by: James | October 2, 2008, 4:37 am 4:37 am

I know someone who was called by one of these pollsters, she said she lied on every question. When I asked her why she said she was tired of the media thinking that they are the ones that decide our elections.

Posted by: pennsylvaniavoter | October 2, 2008, 4:47 am 4:47 am

OUR ECONOMY IS SINKING SO OBAMA GETS A BOOST..
DOES HE REALLY WANT THIS COUNTRY FIXED..IF WE FIX IT ON TIME, MCCAIN WINS..
OBAMA HAS ’666″ ON HIS HEAD..

Posted by: TJ, THE CLINTONITE | October 2, 2008, 4:50 am 4:50 am

McCain/Palin have no idea what to do.McCain wouldnt even look at Obama during this last debate.

Posted by: Demo Rules | October 2, 2008, 5:48 am 5:48 am

– McCain’s plan begins to target one of the greatest drivers behind the high costs –
Indeed, it is a different approach. And I agree that competition does generally reduce costs and increase efficiency, unless other factors are at play (such as market monopolization). Yet by taxing businesses for their provided health care, McCains plan attempts to shift people towards private health insurance. Something that is estimated to force over 20 million Americans to wind up losing their health care, due to not just inability to afford private coverage, but due to pre-existing conditions (which is currently a major problem in our health care system). Have you ever tried to get individual coverage outside employment? The analysis by the Economic Policy Institute also shows that Obamas plan is more cost effective. McCain’s plan spends roughly seven times more (per capita) than Obama’s to cover each of the forecasted uninsured. In addition, due to tax breaks for employers in the Obama plan, the Wall Street Journal estimates an annual savings of $140 billion by companies providing health coverage. I am a small business owner, and health care currently is a very real problem for our employees and my company trying to providing it.
http://www.epi.org/content.cfm/pm126
– Many small business owners report their business income on personal forms, as solo proprietors etc. Taxing them @ higher rate does impact the economic growth engine overall –
According to IRS data, less than 15% of sole proprietorships report incomes of greater than $250,000. Yes, it will have an impact, I never claimed it wouldn’t, however, there has to be a line drawn somewhere, and there is no question that we must increase revenue if spending is to continue at it’s current rate. In many cases, those earning over that amount could shift to a different reporting method without a noticeable difference, particularly those earning significantly more. Remember, Obamas plan leaves corporate tax rates and existing exemptions exactly how they are currently.
http://www.irs.gov/taxstats/bustaxstats/article/0,,id=152029,00.html
– talk about reciting campaign bullet points. Households earning $250K or more are not the top 2% of income. Per census data, the highest fifth (20% of the population) accounts for ~50% of overall income. A far cry from your stat. –
According to US Census data, households earning $250,000 or greater represents less than 2%. I got that figure from the US Census data, not Obamas campaign:
http://pubdb3.census.gov/macro/032008/hhinc/toc.htm
(Report HINC-06, 2008 report using 2007 data)
Also, according to analysis by the University of California (UCSC), the top 1% controls close to 40% of the wealth in the US. If, as you claim, the top 20% controls half the wealth, then the vast majority of those people would not see a tax increase, but either no change or a decrease, with the rest realizing tax cuts growing greater as their income decreases.
– But – I repeat – he (McCain) does give them to everybody. Many people will prefer that then the Robin Hood mentality of Obama (i.e, stealing from the more well=off is still stealing). –
I agree 100%.. McCain wants to continue with a trickle down taxation plan. And while I’m sure everyone wants to get a break, one cannot ignore the fact that it is impossible to cut taxes while increasing spending. Somewhere, somehow, money has to be raised in order to continue spending. But history has shown, over and over again, that the results of that policy is dismal. Hoover, who coined the term, found out the hard way and contributed to the great depression. Regan did the same and increased the deficit from just under $1 trillion to over $2.6 trillion, more than all the Presidents before him combined. Under Bush, we have seen the same pattern, and the highest single year increase in deficit in our history.
Both candidates tax plans will increase the deficit however. According to the Tax Policy Center analysis, McCain will raise it $4.2 trillion over 10 years, Obama will raise it $2.9 trillion. If you look at the health care plans, McCain will cost $1.3 trillion over that period, Obama will be $1.6. The main difference is that McCains plan will take time before it begins to stimulate the economy and cause the deficit to increase faster, while Obamas plan would provide a much faster stimulus by giving more money to the working class to spend (as tax cuts), and businesses would receive an estimated $140 billion annually in savings due to his health plan (and use the money spent more efficently while increasing coverage to more Americans). You also have to consider that both will need to cut Government spending. Given the difference in deficit increases between the two, McCain will have a much harder time just trying to match Obama given the $1.3 trillion difference over 10 years, or in other words, he would have to find about $100 billion annual savings just to match Obama without any spending cuts.
These are not sound bites, and I have no particular party affiliation. I just have looked in depth at each plan, and can only conclude that Obamas is a better deal for America. And I haven’t even touched upon other aspects, such as foreign policy posturing, energy independence, etc..
Oh, by the way, thanks for providing the first real response to my queries thus far.. it is refreshing to actually hear an intelligent voice in all of this noise.

Posted by: Concerned American | October 2, 2008, 5:57 am 5:57 am

Repeating BS does not make it true. McCain lies so much (and it is documented) and is an underhanded backstabbing bully — yes I’ve done my research in Arizona — no thank YOU… add Sarah Palin – who cannot help putting her foot in her mouth because of her grossly unqualified nature – being picked for having ovaries and having borne a lot of babes isn’t exactly a really tough thing – look around America! And hey, how many Governors can string together a coherent sentence – she is not of one of them. But you know, stick her next to Lurch – whoops, I mean McCain and she DOES LOOK GOOD.
Now, you people who want to vote Nader or Barr – have FUN. But you just may allow McCain into office. In fact, are you in the employ of the Republicans? ;)

Posted by: staceroni | October 2, 2008, 6:02 am 6:02 am

Staceroni
NO we are democrats that are going to prevent a catastophe by not allowing Obama to be elected!

Posted by: staniam | October 2, 2008, 6:28 am 6:28 am

Seeing 50 posts in a row promoting Bob Barr makes it quite obvious there is a paid staff in some computer room somewhere Blogging for Barr. Look, I have seen Bob Barr give speeches and believe he is a man of integrity, and I would like to see him have more say in government, BUT do not forget how Nader was probably the main reason Al Gore lost to Bush in 2000. Gore would have been a great president compared to Bushco and all the atrocities executed upon our nation. I won’t vote for Bob Barr or Nader because by doing so I would be strengthening McSame’s chances of taking the presidency. Don’t vote Bob Barr, and you staffers quit flooding the forum with your message because it isn’t fair, it isn’t the purpose of these forums, which are for INDIVIDUALS who are not working for organizations to express their independent opinions.

Posted by: Jim | October 2, 2008, 6:29 am 6:29 am

When will we start talking about Keating5, Phil Gram and Republican McCain who is one of the guys he is now talking about he wants to go after? Republican McCain will say whatever he has to in order to get your vote. He’s against regulating the financial markets that are now failing but if he thinks you will vote for him he will tell you he is for it. He thinks the economy is fundamentally strong but when asked what economy is he talking about? He changed his statement to say he was talking about the American people are fundamentally strong. The American people he consistently votes against on issues such as healthcare, seniors, labor, unions, keeping jobs from going overseas, energy, childcare, active military troops, veterans and even hurricane survivors? Will the real John McCain please stand up?McCain voted NO on S AMDT 210 to S Con Res 18: To repeal the tax subsidy for certain domestic companies which move manufacturing operations and American jobs offshore.Republican McCain may lie but his record does not! Here is how Republican McCain voted for the American people:06/26/2007 Union Organization BillHR 800 Voted:NO08/02/2007 State Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP) Reauthorization HR 976 Voted:NO09/19/2007 Time Between Troop Deployments S Amdt 2909 Voted:NO10/05/2005 Health Care for Veterans AmendmentHR 2863 Voted:NO02/02/2006 Medicare Part D AmendmentHR 4297 Voted:NO11/17/2005 Medicare Prescription Drug Benefit AmendmentS 2020 Voted:NO11/03/2005 Medicare Premiums AmendmentS 1932 Voted:NO11/03/2005 Prescription Drug Plan AmendmentS 1932 Voted:NO07/11/2006 FEMA AmendmentHR 5441 Voted:NO11/03/2005 Medical Assistance and Prescription Drug AmendmentS 1932 Voted:NO11/03/2005 Hurricane Health Care for Survivors AmendmentS 1932 Voted:NO10/27/2005 AIDS Drug Assistance Program AmendmentHR 3010 Voted:NO06/27/2003 Medicare Prescription Drug Benefit billS 1 Voted:NO07/25/2006 Teen Pregnancy Education AmendmentS 403 Voted:NO10/26/2005 Low-Income Home Energy Assistance Program AmendmentHR 3010 Voted:NO06/16/2005 Reduction in Dependence on Foreign OilHR 6 Voted:NO06/16/2005 Renewable Portfolio Standard (RPS) AmendmentHR 6 Voted:NO05/08/2002 Farm Security and Rural Investment Act of 2002HR 2646 Voted:NO03/29/2007 Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Bill of 2007HR 1591 Voted:NO11/03/2005 Agriculture, Rural Development, FDA Appropriations ActHR 2744 Voted:NO10/27/2005 After School Funding AmendmentHR 3010 Voted:NO11/08/2001 Veterans Affairs and HUD Appropriations Act of 2002HR 2620 Voted:NO11/17/2005 Additional Funding For Veterans AmendmentS 2020 Voted:NO06/29/2000 Health Care AmendmentHR 4577 Voted:NO11/15/2005 Reporting Matters in Iraq AmendmentS 1042 Voted:NO11/15/2005 Iraq Progress Reports AmendmentS 1042 Voted:NO04/25/2002 Securing America’s Future Energy (SAFE) Act of 2001HR 4 Voted:NO

Posted by: CW | October 2, 2008, 6:36 am 6:36 am

Bill Isaac, FMR FDIC Chairman, stated this morning that this is a bad bill and most of the money will not go to the US but over sea. And, he stated, there were better ways to fix the problem with using tax payer money.

Posted by: willie | October 2, 2008, 6:40 am 6:40 am

Jim
I will vote for Nader precisely because you told me not to! It is your kind that prevented Gore from beign elected and voted for Bush over Kerry in 2004 because you were too darn dumb!

Posted by: staniam | October 2, 2008, 6:53 am 6:53 am

Jim, i agree w ith you…Don’t throw your vote away to this Barr, it will only help McCain.

Posted by: Jdub1986 | October 2, 2008, 7:24 am 7:24 am

Senator Obama and Senator McCain voted for BIG tax cuts for BIG Corporations last night. They are both for big money and neither are for the middle class. Democracy was dealt a huge blow last night. 94% of Americans citizens are against this bill and the people we voted in the Senate voted for it.
People of America this is a Dictatorship. And the people were not heard last night. WE can not let this bill pass on Friday.
And anyone who voted for ths bill or that will be vote for this bill, will be voted out of office on
Novermber 4th.

Posted by: John | October 2, 2008, 7:38 am 7:38 am

Who is Bob Barr? Keep dreaming!!!

Posted by: JA | October 2, 2008, 7:39 am 7:39 am

Why don’t we let you Republican vote for Bob Barr, Ralph Nader or Kitty Wahoo and you let us vote for Obama cause the only way McCain as a chance is for undecided to vote for the third party.
Obama/biden 08

Posted by: McClown | October 2, 2008, 7:49 am 7:49 am

Look out for Obama in Indiana. I worked the phones last night for Obama
55% Obama 40% McCain 5% undecided.
The other 6 people working had similar results.
We were calling small town folks. My first time getting involved, most of the others were rookies, had to turn some volunteers away all the phones were taken. A pretty good mix of people, I’m 59, most were middle age and younger.

Posted by: Tom. Tescher | October 2, 2008, 7:57 am 7:57 am

Why is FEC Keeping Lid on OBAMA SCANDAL?
It looks as if Senator Obama may have received MORE THAN $200 MILLION in illegal donations including millions overseas campaign donations. Four times during the last three months an FEC Auditor has asked his bosses to start an investigation into Senator Obama’s illegal campaign donations such as this one
Similarly, a donor identified as “Pro, Doodad,” from “Nando, NY,” gave $19,500 in 786 separate donations, most of them for $25. For most of these donations, Mr. Doodad Pro listed his employer as “Loving” and his profession as “You,” etc.

Posted by: HP Boston | October 2, 2008, 8:53 am 8:53 am

Here’s the deal. We could drown with a President like John McCain. If will not vote for Barack Obama, vote for Bob Barr. If you are thinking, “damn, I don’t wanna vote for Obama” Please do not default to John McCain. That would be the single most worst thing for this country. Anyone that votes for John McCain must be in a plot to destroy American and it’s future. Please, either vote for Obama or Barr. I beg of you!

Posted by: Drew Baby | October 2, 2008, 8:55 am 8:55 am

Posted by: BHOBLAH | October 2, 2008, 9:02 am 9:02 am

Posted by: BHOBLAH | October 2, 2008, 9:02 am 9:02 am

Nope.. I am not a Bob Barr staffer. I am somebody that is sick and tired of the ‘Big 2′ political parties trying to drive this country deeper in the hole.
John McCain wants to keep our military in Iraq, a war that was started on lies in the first place and so far, has cost us almost 4500 lives of our military, and countless lives of Iraqi citizens. He continually lies about varied topics in interviews and believes that this ‘bailout’ will actually help the situation.
Barack Obama is a closet Socialist in Democrat clothing. He wants the US taxpayers to foot the bill for an increased welfare program and a larger government for ‘oversight of the free market’ He sponsored the Global Poverty Act in 2007, which would give 25 Billion dollars to the continent of Africa (the US share, would roughly be between 3.25 – 3.65 Billion dollars… of TAXPAYER money). That amount will double in the year 2010 to the amount of 50 Billion total. Dont believe me, google ‘Global Poverty Act’ For those that do not want to google the bill, check out this link, the numbers are in paragraph (9):
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=s110-2433&version=rs&nid=
Obama has also stated that we should rebuild the Afghan, Iraqi and Georgia’s economies. How can we help other countries ‘build’ their economies when ours is in shambles?
I invite all posters/readers to check out http://www.bobbarr2008.com and do some investigation yourself. I find it very sad that anybody will vote the party line, simply because they are part of a certain party. The second thing that i refuse to do, is to vote for the lesser evil between Obama and McCain. Bob might not be perfect, but he has the best plan to get this country back on the right track. I understand that the changes that he wants to implement will take time, but each step in the right direction is much better than continuing the path that we are currently on.
Sick of the status quo, vote for a REAL change. Bob Barr 2008

Posted by: Brian S | October 2, 2008, 9:03 am 9:03 am

“Obama wins, everything will be peachy on January 21, all problems solved, hungry people fed and the sick cured.”
Posted by: david
david, no one is claiming this will happen. what i do know is things got much worse under bush. mccain is alot like bush. it’s time to try something else.

Posted by: thunderstorm42 | October 2, 2008, 9:13 am 9:13 am

“Obama wins, everything will be peachy on January 21, all problems solved, hungry people fed and the sick cured.”
Posted by: david
david, no one is saying this will happen. what i do know is things got much worse under bush…. mccain is just like bush…. it’s time to try something else.

Posted by: thunderstorm42 | October 2, 2008, 9:15 am 9:15 am

FACT: Barrack Hussien Obama is three Muslim names
FACT: Barrack Hussien Obama is senator of Ill.
FACT: Ill. has the highest crime rate
FACT: Ill. has the highest unemployment
FACT: Ill. has the highest taxes
FACT: Barrack Hussien Obama went 20 year to a Hate America Rev.
FACT: Barrack Hussien Obama had his political career started from the corrupt political machine in Illinois
FACT: Barrack Hussien Obama has ties with Ayers a known terrorist
FACT: Barrack Hussien Obama 2nd highest money taken from Fannie and Freddie
FACT: He voted present over 160 times because he could not make a decision

Posted by: BHOBLAH | October 2, 2008, 9:17 am 9:17 am

Obama just voted last night, to bail out wall street. I thought he was for the middle class? No one in America wants this bail out, NO ONE. I’m sorry
94% of us don’t want this bailout.
How can Obama he is for the middle class?

Posted by: John | October 2, 2008, 9:20 am 9:20 am

I am not stating that all Muslims are terroist but fact is Barrack Hussein Obamma has three muslim names, He has a hate America preacher and he has ties with the terroist Ayers. He said he would talk face to face with Countries Presidents who are know terroist. I don’t understand why poeple think he is going to save our country. He is going to bring Our great Country down.

Posted by: BHOBLAH | October 2, 2008, 9:20 am 9:20 am

Is the liberal media only polling the inner cities? I have 3 neighbors who are democrats and are not voting for Obama because he is to radical for them. I drive down the country roads and the sign are 20 to 1 for McCain.

Posted by: BHOBLAH | October 2, 2008, 9:34 am 9:34 am

Why is FEC Keeping Lid on OBAMA SCANDAL?
It looks as if Senator Obama may have received MORE THAN $200 MILLION in illegal donations including millions overseas campaign donations. Four times during the last three months an FEC Auditor has asked his bosses to start an investigation into Senator Obama’s illegal campaign donations such as this one
Similarly, a donor identified as “Pro, Doodad,” from “Nando, NY,” gave $19,500 in 786 separate donations, most of them for $25. For most of these donations, Mr. Doodad Pro listed his employer as “Loving” and his profession as “You,” etc.

Posted by: HP Boston | October 2, 2008, 9:46 am 9:46 am

Why is the media keeping a lid on this.
Why is FEC Keeping Lid on OBAMA SCANDAL?
It looks as if Senator Obama may have received MORE THAN $200 MILLION in illegal donations including millions overseas campaign donations. Four times during the last three months an FEC Auditor has asked his bosses to start an investigation into Senator Obama’s illegal campaign donations such as this one
Similarly, a donor identified as “Pro, Doodad,” from “Nando, NY,” gave $19,500 in 786 separate donations, most of them for $25. For most of these donations, Mr. Doodad Pro listed his employer as “Loving” and his profession as “You,” etc.

Posted by: BHOBLAH | October 2, 2008, 9:53 am 9:53 am

With Obama surging in all the polls I have to wonder what kind of October surprise we can expect from the Bush/McCain people in order to turn things around for them? Talk of a new terrorist plot against the U S? It worked four years ago for Bush, will they try it again or come up with something new?

Posted by: PhilBgood | October 2, 2008, 10:02 am 10:02 am

I am the proud mother of a Marine that served two tours in Iraq. I am also looking forward to having either a black or a woman president when our country is ready. BUT, I feel very strongly that right now to have ANYONE that has had any ties with a muslim religion is having Osama Bin Laden in office (Obama/Biden). Which means that what my son went over there for was not worth the sacrifice that some of his friends gave their lives for, and the lives of all those lost in the ‘twin towers massacre’.

Posted by: Susan W | October 2, 2008, 10:03 am 10:03 am

PhilBGood isn’t economic terrorism enough?

Posted by: Angelo | October 2, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am

You Americans are bizarre. I read through this, and I see plenty of rational debate coming from those supporting the Obama/Biden ticket, and nothing but hatred and vitriol from those supporting the McCain/Palin ticket.Can you offer reasons to vote for them other than that you loathe Obama? Do you really think repeating the same old disproved scandalous lines, and making what amounts to personal attacks on BO will make people change their minds? Surely the way to do this is to offer up the policies of McCain/Palin, and explain how they will improve your country (and for that matter, the world). I very, very rarely see this in any forums or blogs. With attitudes like this, it is no wonder the GoP is on the way down, rightly so if these attitudes are representative of it’s supporters. It seems obvious, but perhaps a predictable and trite line – could it actually be about race? I fear so, and therefore fear for your sad, sad country.

Posted by: Spaghetti | October 2, 2008, 10:21 am 10:21 am

Gore was expected to sweep the 2000 election, Kerry was slated to win by a landslide in 2004.

Posted by: S Adams | October 2, 2008, 10:23 am 10:23 am

I don’t believe the polls, even when McCain was up, the MSM is driving this election and they are not exactly nonpartisan.

Posted by: S Adams | October 2, 2008, 10:26 am 10:26 am

Good point Angelo!

Posted by: PhilBgood | October 2, 2008, 10:28 am 10:28 am

Angelo, let me expand on my point a little. Yes, you are correct about your economic terroism comment. However, the poor economy plays well for Obama. The point I’m trying to make is McCain needs a game changer and that is why I am worried about an October surprise. And don’t forget, Karl Rove is advising McCains campaign. Be prepared for anything as the McCain camapaign is in desparation mode.

Posted by: PhilBgood | October 2, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am

IT IS INCREDIBLE TO ME THAT SEVEN SHORT YEARS AGO WE WERE IN GRIEF WHEN MUSLIM EXTREMISTS ATTACKED OUR HOMELAND. NOW WE ARE ON THE VERGE OF ELECTING ONE AS PRESIDENT. THEY SAID THAT THEY WOULD TAKE OVER FROM WITHIN. STUPID LIBERALS DON’T WANT TO BELIEVE ANYTHING BAD ABOUT THEIR GOLDEN BOY. THE FACT IS, WE DON’T KNOW WHAT OBAMA REALLY IS. HIS POLITICAL RISE AND HIS MESSAGE ARE MORE CLOSELY AKIN TO THAT OF ADOLPH HITLER THAN ANY OTHER FIGURE IN WORLD HISTORY. NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO RISK PUTTING A RACIST EXTREMIST IN THE WHITE HOUSE. BY THE WAY, BOTH CANDIDATES WERE WRONG TO SUPPORT THE BAILOUT. ANYONE WHO WAS DUMB ENOUGH TO LIVE BEYOND THEIR MEANS OUGHT TO HAVE TO LOSE THEIR HOUSE AND PAY RENT. THE LESSON SHOULD BE IF YOU CAN’T AFFORD IT DON’T BUY IT.

Posted by: auntpearl1 | October 2, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am

History will be made with a women in the White House and not an African muslim man.

Posted by: Women4Palin | October 2, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am

Why is the media keeping a lid on this.
Why is FEC Keeping Lid on OBAMA SCANDAL?
It looks as if Senator Obama may have received MORE THAN $200 MILLION in illegal donations including millions overseas campaign donations. Four times during the last three months an FEC Auditor has asked his bosses to start an investigation into Senator Obama’s illegal campaign donations such as this one
Similarly, a donor identified as “Pro, Doodad,” from “Nando, NY,” gave $19,500 in 786 separate donations, most of them for $25. For most of these donations, Mr. Doodad Pro listed his employer as “Loving” and his profession as “You,” etc.

Posted by: BHOBLAH | October 2, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am

I don’t trust the polls taken by the liberal elite media.
Have faith. Voters will not put a muslim man in the White House.

Posted by: Women4Palin | October 2, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am

What the heck is with these blogs on abc?, I mean even fox news does not have this extreme right wing gestapo ideas.

Posted by: gtMET | October 2, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am

No Hussein, your an idiot. People are turned off by your choice of name alone. How shallow you are? I guess you were one of the few babies that chose your name at birth? I understand that two years ago when people were first introduced to Obama that his name raised some concern, but since we have become very informed of who Obama is and where he came from. His father, from whom he got his name, was never a part of his life.
People have been ignorant and passive in the past couple elections, but not this one. People like you have turned off independents like me. There is a growing trend withRepublican campaigns. Avoid the issues and preach Hate, Hate, Hate, use Smear tactics, and tell Lies, Lies, Lies. I pray for people like you man.
You might not like Obama’s policy, but he is an exemplary politician compared to McCain and other politicians. A good husband, good father, and very accomplished politician.
Also Judge, your comment,
“Everything that people say about Sarah Palin and her not being qualified for vice-president, you are saying the same about Obama”.
Sorry, to inform you, it’s not experience people are talking about, its her F’ing extremely low IQ. Obama, a BS in Political Science from Columbia, a law degree from Harvard, and first black President of the Harvard Law Review. Are you kidding me? This guy has brains, and we need that more than ever!
Independents for Obama!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: FU to No Hussein | October 2, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am

Women4Palin I agree.
Don’t understand how we are fighting Muslim terroist (not saying all are terroist) and have Barrack Hussien Obama, 3 Muslim names, who has been mentored by a Hate America Rev. for 20 years and has ties with the terroist Ayers. This just does not make sense. I think the polls are from inner cities only.

Posted by: BHOBLAH | October 2, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am

Yeah, that’s what we need in the whitehouse, Sarah Palin or is that Sarah Pagan? She speaks in tongue, is a snake charmer and now we are learning about witchcraft too? This is too much for me. I beleive in freedom of religion but Palin crosses the line.

Posted by: McFlub | October 2, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am

FACT: Barrack Hussien Obama is three Muslim names
FACT: Barrack Hussien Obama is senator of Ill.
FACT: Ill. has the highest crime rate
FACT: Ill. has the highest unemployment
FACT: Ill. has the highest taxes
FACT: Barrack Hussien Obama went 20 year to a Hate America Rev.
FACT: Barrack Hussien Obama had his political career started from the corrupt political machine in Illinois
FACT: Barrack Hussien Obama has ties with Ayers a known terrorist
FACT: Barrack Hussien Obama 2nd highest money taken from Fannie and Freddie
FACT: He voted present over 160 times because he could not make a decision

Posted by: BHOBLAH | October 2, 2008, 11:17 am 11:17 am

I am retired miliatry and Vietman Veteran who will be voting for Obama. The reason is easy. Both Sarah Palin and her husband are part of a movement that wants Alaska to secede from the UNITED States of America. No patriotic American would ever think of breaking up this great nation. Palin is a traitor for even thinking of such a thing and shame on John McCain for picking this traitor as his running mate.

Posted by: Proud To Be An American | October 2, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am

Hi Judge,
Its people like you, the uneducated, the narrow minded, that have driven our country down. Try getting an education, opening up you mind and actually reading the facts about Obama instead of listening to the lies that the republican party and macrappy spreads.

Posted by: Mike | October 2, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am

To those equating Palin’s and Obama’s experience, stop and consider for a moment. Obama ran for Senate in 2004, an has been running for president for close to 2 years. He has done 20 debates, published his policies, and over 100 interviews. He graduated from Columbia, and then Harvard Law school. He taught constitutional law.
Palin’s rise to power is impressive, but her educational and political background do not rival Obamas. She has no record on the pressing issues of today. And in her two interviews, she has raised red flags about her suitability to the office she’s aspiring to.
http://palincounter.blogspot.com/

Posted by: billthomson | October 2, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am

BHOBLA,
Your also an idiot. I wish I could meet you in person, I’d take your @$$ behind the woodshed shut that little smart mouth up.
Keep going with the name punch though, its just making our numbers go up in Ohio, Florida, Virgina, and my state NC.
BTW, when Obama becomes your president will you support him? B/C I got news for you bud, its going to happen 4 weeks and a few days from now.

Posted by: FU to No Hussein | October 2, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am

Obama just voted for a tax cut on Big business last night.

Posted by: Angelo | October 2, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am

FU to No Hussein stated by a true Democrumb.

Posted by: BHOBLAH | October 2, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am

FU to No Hussein
You can not tell me one of my facts are untrue. I will post more if you think you can prove one of these wrong.

Posted by: BHOBLAH | October 2, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am

FU to No Hussein Let get more facts since I know you can not prove one of the other facts wrong.
While I am getting more facts take a look at these you dumbacrat.
http://election.newsmax.com/bailout_fanniefreddy.html
http://www.jibjab.com/view/253615

Posted by: BHOBLAH | October 2, 2008, 11:52 am 11:52 am

Proud To Be An American
You are not a retired military if you are voting for Obama. You might of been in the military but I bet you received a dishonorable discharged.

Posted by: BHOBLAH | October 2, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am

Change? How about this for change……I just don’t understand why people seem to forget this….
George Bush has been in office for almost 8 years. The first six the economy was fine, and then in 2006 the American public voted in a Democratic Congress.
A little over one year ago:
1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
3) the unemployment rate was 4.5%.
Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006:
1) Consumer confidence plummeted;
2) Gasoline soared to over $4 a gallon;
3) Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase);
4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value evaporate (stock and mutual fund losses);
5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $12 trillion dollars;
6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.
America voted for change in 2006, and we got it! I am not sure we can afford any more “Democratic Change”!!!!!

Posted by: BHOBLAH | October 2, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am

Why is the media keeping a lid on this.
Why is FEC Keeping Lid on OBAMA SCANDAL?
It looks as if Senator Obama may have received MORE THAN $200 MILLION in illegal donations including millions overseas campaign donations. Four times during the last three months an FEC Auditor has asked his bosses to start an investigation into Senator Obama’s illegal campaign donations such as this one
Similarly, a donor identified as “Pro, Doodad,” from “Nando, NY,” gave $19,500 in 786 separate donations, most of them for $25. For most of these donations, Mr. Doodad Pro listed his employer as “Loving” and his profession as “You,” etc.

Posted by: BHOBLAH | October 2, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am

Concerned American -
Health care – check out NCPA’s analysis of the health plan including its conclusion “The McCain plan will not solve all our health care problems. But it has a far better chance of positively reforming the system than any other plan that has been proposed this campaign season”. Reasons – makes health care payment/taxation equitable for everyone, creates a national plan (more competition), and encourages control of discretionary spend (accupuncture,etc) by putting the cost on the consumer rather than embedded into the pool costs everyone pays as premiums.
SMB taxes – I should have been more specific. You can run an S corporations and some other formats (ex., LLCs) and still opt to use personal income form to record a reasonable salary and then dividend. You control cash flow, not ultimate tax liability. So, it’s not just the solos. IF you look at all the other options, I think you’re up to more than 50%.
“In many cases, those earning over that amount could shift to a different reporting method without a noticeable difference…” Have you ever tried to file corporate taxes in addition to personal? Qtrly income statements, qtrly payroll, qtrly unemployment, and then the annual filings. Make a mistake and you’re facing penalties. Hire an accountant and you’re out about 2K minimum for a small biz with simple accting, significantly more for higher.
Re census data – seems it’s 1) a question of definitions — census for ex tracks “income” more as wages, doesn’t consider other means of income (including capital gains) and 2) census data also relies on self-reporting. May sound elitist, but I bet more lower/middle income citizens fill out the form than higher income. Even on its face, the 2K/116K ratio cited doesn’t represent the highest level of income – start adding up every professional NBA/NFL/MLB player, add in 50% of Congress (conservative), add in every A-list celebrity, NYT best-selling author, Top 10 attorneys in each of the 50 states … you’re already over the number of “reported” households earning more than $250K … and it’s substantially more. Telltale sign – the median in the above $250K is only $400K.
- “I agree 100%” … if only we could stop there. (work awaits)
The real question becomes the ability to control spending. Reagan presided over a poor economic environment (thanks Carter) and a massive buildup of the military. Guns v butter, guns win. Bush again cut the taxes and then hit the accelerator on spending – some of it nondiscretionary, some of it caused by circumstances out of his control(ex., 9/11, DHS, Katrina…),and then GWOT.
I can’t find a good example of any one who successfully trimmed govt spending. Can McCain be different? – his stance on govt waste,fraud/abuse, and earmarks has been very consistent. Many of his much-cited “no” votes to popular-to-the left programs has more to do w/the duplicative costs of oversight/agency roles, etc. He has a track record of saying to friends and foes alike – no more. I appreciate that – especially since I suspect he’s a one-term candidate, who’s not running for re-election, not looking to appease any particular group.
Obama/Pelosi/Reid, on the other hand, scare the hell out of me. Every problem seems to have a governmentally funded solution, and I submit there is no such thing as a successfully funded government solution — the military being a possible exception and only if you except out the procurement process.
- re TPC analysis… TPC will they say are not biased, but sponsored by Brookings and Urban Institute does reflect a liberal leaning. I won’t bother with the AEI analysis (guess who comes out ahead – yes, McCain), the support for the new corporate rates which would put US in closer competition with European and other regions for business, the depreciation rules for select business investments which essentially acts as a stimulus package (freeing cash back up), etc.
As for the others – I’ve looked as well, and still come out preferring McCain – largely because of the tax issue, his much more pragmatic approach (he understands governance is compromise), and for his views on national security/foreign relations.
Thanks to you also – it’s been a pleasure

Posted by: ampost | October 2, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am

Barr/ Root 2008
The only way we can stop this maddness!!
Vote Barr/ Root

Posted by: Ron PA | October 2, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm

BHOBLAH has a neanderthal IQ.

Posted by: gtMET | October 2, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm

Stop Big Goverment.
Obama and McCain are killing us with taxes and Goverment growth.
Vote Barr
http://www.Bobbarr2008.com

Posted by: Ron Pa | October 2, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm

We will not be silent any more!!
As you see BARR and NADER people are fourming a BLOG BOMB group and we will not stop till we are heard!!!
Goooooo!!!! Barr!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Jim BARR!! | October 2, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm

gtMET wrote: BHOBLAH has a neanderthal IQ.
I think you owe an apology to all neanderthal’s.

Posted by: Proud To Be An American | October 2, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm

gtMET I will put my IQ up against yours or any other liberal. You just change you name eveytime you post on here because not one liberal on here can prove my facts as wrong. They also don’t like the videos that shows the dumbocrats screwed up the economy and the top people receiving money from Fannie and Freddie are dumbocrumbs and the the 2nd highest was your messsiah Obama.

Posted by: BHOBLAH | October 2, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm

Why is the media keeping a lid on this.
Why is FEC Keeping Lid on OBAMA SCANDAL?
It looks as if Senator Obama may have received MORE THAN $200 MILLION in illegal donations including millions overseas campaign donations. Four times during the last three months an FEC Auditor has asked his bosses to start an investigation into Senator Obama’s illegal campaign donations such as this one
Similarly, a donor identified as “Pro, Doodad,” from “Nando, NY,” gave $19,500 in 786 separate donations, most of them for $25. For most of these donations, Mr. Doodad Pro listed his employer as “Loving” and his profession as “You,” etc.

Posted by: BLAHisBHO | October 2, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm

There I change my name to make it look like I am someone else

Posted by: BLAHisBHO | October 2, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm

Attention to all people who are fed up with the daily bias of ABC against, John Mccain,and Sarah Palin.
Start Boycotting, ABC sponsors/ advertisers,today. Who here is with me?
ABC,blew it, and will pay when its all said and done.
Stepanopolis, Klein, Tapper etc etc etc should ALL be fired, along with the heads of this pro-Obama propaganda spewing company. The media has clearly manipulated the minds of many voters who trust them to report fairly.
I hope america wakes up to the rrealization of what the MSM has been cultivating.

Posted by: Badger | October 2, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm

The Seattle Times endorses Barack Obama saying, “Obama should be the next president of the United States because he is the most qualified change agent. Obama is a little young, but also brilliant. If he sometimes seems brainy and professorial, that’s OK. We need the leader of the free world to think things through, carefully. We have seen the sorry results of shooting from the hip.” Obama-Biden ’08!

Posted by: sawrad | October 2, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm

At first I was turned off by rants and tirades like those shared by BHOBLAH. Then I realized, with friends like these, John Sidney McCain III doesn’t need enemies. Obama-Biden ’08!

Posted by: sawrad | October 2, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm

BHOBLAH, the problem you have with your video identifying a few democrats in the house opposing regulating Freddie and Fannie and few Republicans being for regulatory oversight is very misleading (again, republicans are very good at this). The video is from 2004 when you had a republican president, house and senate. More reupublicans voted against regulatory oversight. Have you ever watched CSPAN covering a bill? If you have dozens get up and talk all day long. Where is the video of these politicians? BHOBLAH you are not only an an idiot but very sleazy. BTW, I served a year in the first gulf war and my cousin has now just gotten back from his second deployement in Iraq. We served honerably and were’t discharged. How dare you criticize me for excercising my right to vote for Obama! This is America, and the last time I checked we were a democracy republidick!

Posted by: FU to No Hussein | October 2, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm

We must all vote for McCain he does ot have a political ajenda. Obama is dangerous. His associations will bring this country down-
DO NOT let HATE WIN
JM

Posted by: mellinger | October 2, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm

Someone responds to me: “I will vote for Nader precisely because you told me not to! It is your kind that prevented Gore from beign elected and voted for Bush over Kerry in 2004 because you were too darn dumb!”
Looks like you are too “darn dumb” to see that OF COURSE I never once voted for Bush and saw way ahead of time what he’d do to the country. My point stands, if you vote for Nader or Barr, you are essentially giving a vote to McCain; are you too darn dumb to understand that?

Posted by: Jim | October 2, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm

My2 cents couldn’t agree with you more. Why aren’t they investigating McCain? And when Clinton had a one night stand Ken Star and Co. spent millions. This idiot we have in charge now killed thousands in the war, our economy is horrible, almost a Depression and no investigation into him and his merry men. Doesnt’ make sense to me. And I’m not saying it’s all the republicans fault, dems are at fault too, but BUSH AND HIS CLOWNS ARE IN CHARGE….

Posted by: Barbara | October 2, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm

ABC.. you are a disgrace. Your headlines read like a trashy, gossipy paper. Georgie, there there now. Don’t get your panties in a bunch when Sarah Palin kicks Biden’s ass.

Posted by: ml | October 2, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm

Beware uninformed believers.
Obama has aDangerous Economic Plan And then there are Obama’s dangerous economic plans for America.He wants to almost double the capital gains tax. He wants to strip the FICA tax cap off every worker making more than $97,500. He wants to increase the dividend tax. He wants to let the Bush tax cuts expire — giving almost every American family an automatic tax increase.
He has called for more than $800 billion in new spending programs.He is so radical he even backed driver’s licenses for illegal aliens — even though such a move would help future terrorists move freely in the United States.
He is the most pro-abortion candidate in the history of the country. In 2001, as a state legislator in Illinois, he opposed a bill to protect live born children — children actually born alive! He was the only Illinois senator to speak out against the bill.
He opposes gun rights. He has long history of trying to deny ordinary citizens access to guns. He originally backed Washington D.C.’s total ban on private handguns — a ban that was overturned. The NRA rated him an “F” on gun positions and says he is one of the most dangerous anti-gun politicians in the nation.Never forget that Obama is a Harvard educated elitist. To him we Americans are simply “bitter” and he has mocked us saying “[they] cling to their guns and their religion.”Support the National Republican Trust PAC’s Campaign to Expose Obama – Go Here NowExposing the TruthHillary Clinton was late in recognizing the threat Obama posed to her campaign, but once she did, her strategy worked.When Hillary exposed Obama publicly, her campaign saw a major turnaround.
Hillary won every major state primary in the nation with the sole exception of Obama’s home state of Illinois.
And even though Obama was “anointed” by the media and Democratic elites, Hillary went on to win eight of the last 10 Democratic primaries.How did Obama beat Hillary for the nomination? Well, using a loophole in Democratic rules, he was able to rack up large majorities in caucus states where he outspent and out organized her.But in large, contested states she won almost every time. Why? Because when Democrats heard what Obama really stood for, they turned on him. Make no mistake about it: If we let Americans know the truth about Obama, John McCain can win this election!But we must employ Hillary Clinton’s strategy. We must expose Obama for the dangerous radical he is.Send a donation today to help our cause – Go Here NowYou Can Make a DifferenceThis is why the National Republican Trust Political Action Committee is moving to implement a “shock and awe” strategy against Obama in key states.We plan to take out powerful television ads, Internet ads and other communications to inform Americans about the dangers posed by Barack Obama.We plan to target key states that can make a difference — But we need your help to do it.As a political action committee, we can accept up to $5,000 in donations per contributor. A $5,000 donation can help us saturate a key market for a full day with television ads.But if you can’t do the full amount, even $2,500 or $1,000 or $500 — Any amount you can afford will help.Stop and think how much Obama may cost you and your family in new taxes over the next four years alone: $50,000, $75,000, $100,000 or even more.

Posted by: Charles | October 2, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm

To all crying die-hard republicans…
PLEASE do as you say you will…it will make it easier to repair the damage you and your party has done to America if you are not here to be roadblocks to progress. SO, feel free to leave, go to Canada, Germany or hell for all I care.

Posted by: Jack | October 2, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm

Badger, you have your FOX (faux) NEWS.
Go there to get your republican love fest.The REAL news is on every other station. The truth hurts !!! If all
those stations were really biased and liberal, why did they hammer Bill Clinton daily when he was President?
They carried water for your party for years with all the cooked up
“scandals” you repukes launched every time Clinton farted.

Posted by: Jack | October 2, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm

To ampost:
You said “check out NCPA’s analysis of the health plan including its conclusion”
I have looked at them all. Keep in mind that the stated goal of NCPA is to “develop and promote private alternatives to government regulation and control”. Given that stance, I could have told you they favor McCains plan even before reading their analysis.
It really boils down to this, McCains plan is geared towards driving down costs and increasing efficiency in the health care industry through deregulation and competition. Obamas plan on the other hand is geared towards getting more Americans insured, particularly for those who are currently unable to afford it or have pre-existing conditions (which also prevents a lot of Americans from switching to better paying jobs and increasing their income levels). Both plans will cost roughly the same, although Obamas would be more efficient due to its increased coverage, while McCains would result in more Americans losing insurance, even though the cost of that insurance might be lower.
The question really comes down to, are you for more americans with health care at current levels, or less americans with health care at cheaper prices? I’m all for reducing health care costs, but that can always be addressed later. Right now, we have a health care crisis in the country, and that is hurting all of us, not just the uninsured.
You also said: “May sound elitist, but I bet more lower/middle income citizens fill out the form than higher income. Even on its face, the 2K/116K ratio cited doesn’t represent the highest level of income”.
Well, the census data’s highest level breakout is $250K or more, which is
understandable, since it is census data.. I might then suggest you go directly to the IRS site and pull up their tax statistics. According to them, individuals earning $250,000 or more in taxable income comes out to just a bit over 4% of all taxpayers. True, it is higher than the 2% indicated by census data, but not by much and still consistent with the 5%/95% ratio used in defining who would see a tax increase under Obamas plan.
You also said: “The real question becomes the ability to control spending.”
And that is indeed a key. But realize that issue has been at the forefront of the race, particularly with the recent bailout fiasco. Regardless of who wins, both will have to reduce spending, not just by reducing waste and abuse, but almost certainly on existing programs as well. It is the only way to get us back to a balanced budget and start reducing the debt we have incurred. And the American people will be watching like hawks to ensure they do. In that case, McCain will be at a disadvantage due to his across the board tax cuts with the wealthy getting the lions share. Obama has a far greater chance of closing the gap between revenue and spending simply because there will be an injection of tax money into the mix. As the TCP indicates, there is a about a $1 trillion dollar difference (over a 10 year period) in revenue generation between the two candidates when you combine both tax and health care plans, so McCain will be hard pressed to cut even more just to catch up.
Joe

Posted by: Joe Klien | October 2, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm

Obama will be the best thing happen to us Americans
Go OBAMA

Posted by: meron | October 2, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm

Obama Supporters…
Do you want YOUR tax dollars to stay here in the USA and try to pay off our nations debts? Or are you paying your tax dollars to bail out other countries? Obama initiated the Global Poverty Act 2007 (google it) as a Senator. He has stated that the USA should rebuild the economies of Georgia, Iraq and Afghanistan, again… as a Senator. I fear what he will do if he gets the keys to the White House.
McCain supporters…
McCain has said repeatedly that we should remain in Iraq to stabilize the country. Which we invaded under false pretenses, have been occupying for the past 5 1/2 years. He has also stated that we should back up Georgia and condemn Russia (like George W has done) because of their unprovoked aggression. Russia invaded Georgia after Georgia used its military on its own citizens and Russia stepped in to defend them. By the way, their response was much faster than our response in Kuwait, of course the distances involved are a factor. McCain’s stance on using the military is going to get us in deeper with Iran, which is understandably nervous, as we are waging 2 wars on its borders. As far as Iraq goes, does anybody remember the part of American History in which we had the ‘Red Coats’ in our fledgling country and we fought back to the ‘oppressors’ from England? Look at this from the perspective of the Iraqis, they want us out. Don’t get me wrong, I am a supporter of our military, but I do not believe that we should be sending out military might to fight a war based on lies.
Both McCain and Obama voted for these ridiculous bailouts, which will add to the tax burden of our children, grandchildren. Neither one of those candidates understands what is happening on Main Street.
The only candidate that I can see that is against the failed policies of both Obama and McCain is Bob Barr. Yes, it is true that his REAL changes will take a little time to have an effect, but each step taken in the right direction, is one less step taken in the wrong direction.
I’m inviting every poster/reader on this site, to investigate for yourself, take off your ‘party hat’ and look at the Issues. Go to http://www.bobbarr2008.com and check his stand on the issues out. Then go to the Obama and McCain sites and compare them. But remember,the ‘programs’ that McCain and Obama want to develop, are going to cost money… from SOMEWHERE.

Posted by: Brian S | October 2, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm

Charles wrote: “Beware uninformed believers.”
Charles, it seems that you are the one who is uninformed. A quick google search or browse over at factcheck.org would do you wonders.. try not to believe everything you get in a spam e-mail, it makes you look foolish.
Joe

Posted by: Joe Klien | October 2, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm

***
Obama initiated the Global Poverty Act 2007 (google it) as a Senator. He has stated that the USA should rebuild the economies of Georgia, Iraq and Afghanistan, again… as a Senator. I fear what he will do if he gets the keys to the White House.
***
It was actually initiated in the House (H.R.1302) where it had 84 co-sponsors, and once it PASSED in the House, was forwarded to the Senate and introduced as S.2433. It’s goal is: “To require the President to develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to further the United States foreign policy objective of promoting the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the United Nations Millennium Development Goal of reducing by one-half the proportion of people worldwide, between 1990 and 2015, who live on less than $1 per day.”
It would be in conjunction with other nations, not just the US alone, 30 co-sponsors. Also, according to the congressional budget office estimates, implementation of this bill would cost less than $1 million a year. In light of this, I would say your complaint is extremely petty given the worthiness of it’s goal.
Joe

Posted by: Joe Klien | October 2, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm

Harry Reid (Dem)–leader of the US Senate made a HUGE mistake or not the other day regarding a major insurance company—insurance company stock drops.
Nancy Pelosi (Dem)–leader of the House gave a speech right before the vote knowing or not all to well that her speech would drown the bail-out bill.
Mistakes from these very brilliant people, maybe or maybe not—-they want OBAMA to win. Planned or not? GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS you are not covering the REAL news…..the cost is the US a country that will be lost!

Posted by: Ann | October 2, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm

Bulletin: Newsmax is now reporting: a judge issued an order giving Obama 3 days to produce: the original copy of his Birth Certificate, a certified copy of Certificate of Citizenship, and a certified copy of Oath of Allegiance! This order stems from a lawsuit originate by Philip Berg, attorney!!
Go to Newsmax.com to view judge’s order!

Posted by: mfmros | October 2, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm

Joe Klein….
This is an excerpt from the Global Poverty Act.
(9) At the summit of the Group of Eight (G-8) nations in July 2005, leaders from all eight participating countries committed to increase aid to Africa from the current $25,000,000,000 annually to $50,000,000,000 by 2010, and to cancel 100 percent of the debt obligations owed to the World Bank, African Development Bank, and International Monetary Fund by 18 of the world’s poorest nations.
Now the G8 is possibly the G7, 25 Billion divided by the 8 (or 7) nations would mean that if paid equally, they would pay 3.125 Billion each or (3.57 Billion if only 7 nations pay) With those totals doubling in the year 2010. Even if the amount was 1 million as you say, I don’t want MY tax dollars going to a state sponsored charity for ANYBODY. Charity should be left to each individual to donate as they want.
The global poverty act link is:
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=s110-2433&version=rs&nid=

Posted by: Brian S | October 2, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm

McCain feels incompetent. He could not face Obama. During the debate see his eye contact. May be it is because of his inferior complex or may be his age. How can he meet with world leaders?

Posted by: robinson | October 2, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm

This is the same MSM tactic that was played out in 2000 with Gore and 2004 with Kerry.
In 2000, the media called Gore the winner when all the polling booths were stil open, then they actually cried when they had to backtrack. Real professional!
In 2004, the media claimed Kerry was expected to win by a landslide and were calling battleground states won by the democrats. Guess what? Bush won most of those battleground states.
We haven’t had the election yet, Obama campaign is using psychological warfare on America to make them believe that everyone is voting for him. I don’t know ONE person that is an Obama supporter. All the yellow dog democrats I know are voting McCain.

Posted by: S Adams | October 2, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm

Furthermore, Obama hasn’t WON any states yet because we haven’t had the election yet.
I’m waiting for Obama to trip up and call us the USSR instead of the USA.
Obama=communism

Posted by: S Adams | October 2, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm

Sorry, it was not Newsmax reporting lawsuit against Obama..to view judge’s order visit…Justia.com

Posted by: mfmros | October 2, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm

To ampost:
I was going to do an longer reply, but it looks like Joe already stepped in and hit a lot of it. In light of that, I do have just a couple of points. One thing Joe didn’t mention is your reference to business tax reporting. Yes, I file corporate taxes and have an accountant. I have friends who also are small business owners and some do the same, and some file differently via individual returns. However, they too rely on accountants to prepare their taxes simply due to the complexity of mixing business and personal incomes and its required reporting. If we assume your $2K is reasonable for accounting services (we don’t pay quite that much), for an income of $250,000 or more, you are looking at less than 1% of total income after taxes, and in any case is deductible as a business expense. Increased business size would also increase accounting costs, but I believe the cost ratio to after tax income still remain around the same level (less than 1% give or take). Just something to consider if you are in that ‘gray’ area that might be effected by the tax change.
And completely unrelated to the tax issue, I’d like you to read the following:
http://www.rand.org/pubs/testimonies/CT314/index.html
That report was given to Congress this month, and directly relates to current world events and how they were successfully handled in the past. It might just give you pause in your apparent support of our current military posturing. And it also directly relates to each candidates insight, particularly on how current decisions can alter long range results; where they have stood over the past several years, and how they will handle situations in the future. Intelligence and insight cannot be overlooked.. I believe we did that with Bush, and that didn’t seem to work out to well! (sorry, I had to get that jab in there– insert smiley face here).
Thanks.. and to everyone else, please make an informed decision when you vote.. our country depends on it.

Posted by: Concerned American | October 2, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm

Brian, here is the congressional budget office estimate for the global poverty act act:
http://www.cbo.gov/cedirect.cfm?bill=s2433&cong=110
And in contrast, how do you feel about this one (S.84: Professional Boxing Amendments Act of 2007) introduced by McCain that will cost, according to the CBO, $34 million over 4 years.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s110-84

Posted by: Concerned American | October 2, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm

ampost: I’m sorry, I mistakenly talked about accounting costs in relationship to ‘after tax’ values above.. I should have instead said ‘taxable income’.

Posted by: Concerned American | October 2, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm

my recovery package would have been to cut a 4,000 to 5,000 dollar check for every American filing a tax return last year. folks could have 1)made their mortage payments for several months 2) made a few car payments or not have been as traumatized about buying gas to get to work 3) seen the doctor like they have needed to for a year 4) buy their medication without worrying about how they were then going to buy food, 5) get the kids a pair of shoes, 6) maybe pay off part of their credit card debt, 7) perhaps take the old lady and kids out for a burger. all of these things would have lubed the economy from the bottom up, and would have restored confidence from the bottom up too. the world doesn’t care how confident the wall street wheeler dealers and banking mogels are. the world believes in the American people who make America roll.

Posted by: unclebigboots | October 2, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm

Bob Barr says the only thing the government should be taking care of is national defense and securing the borders.
I tried only driving on roads I paved myself, and it only worked for a few hundred feet. I’m way behind on feeding poor schoolchildren and fixing bridges in danger of collapse. Look, We tried deregulation–we deregulated the Savings & Loans, then had to bail them out. We deregulated the financial markets, now we have to bail them out. We deregulated the airlines, now they charge extra for checked bags and peanuts. Like it or not, we need the governmment to provide services and protect us from the producer-controlled “free” markets. Barr would throw out the baby with the bathwater. And, um, he’s not going to win–all he can hope for is to take votes away from McCain, which I actually support, so all in all, GO BARR (as long as you don’t win!)

Posted by: Heliocracy | October 2, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm

*** Bob Barr says the only thing the government should be taking care of is national defense and securing the borders. ***
Bob Barr bounces so far between left and right that someone needs to throw a net over him and put him in a padded room. Everyone, across the board, was glad when he left Congress. Look up ‘nut case’ in the dictionary for his picture.

Posted by: BigJim | October 2, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm

It’s completely unfair to lay the blame for the economy at McCain’s feet. He had nothing to do with it. Take a look at this article by Fortune Magazine, which clearly states that the economic mess America is due in part to the fault of Alan Greenspan and the democrats(http://money.cnn.com/2008/09/29/magazines/fortune/varchaver_derivatives.fortune/index.htm).
Basically, you see that the credit crisis has its roots in the late 1990s, under the watch of Alan Greenspan, and way before George W Bush came into power. Credit Default Swaps (CDS) are one of the main reasons for the crisis.
I quote from the article, “The federal government has long shied away from any oversight of CDS. The CFTC floated the idea of taking an oversight role in the late ’90s, only to find itself opposed by Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan and others. Then, in 2000, Congress, with the support of Greenspan and Treasury Secretary Lawrence Summers, passed a bill prohibiting all federal and most state regulation of CDS and other derivatives…The authors of the legislation were so bent on warding off regulation that they had the bill specify that it would ‘supersede and preempt the application of any state or local law that prohibits gaming …’”.
In other words, the current debacle is not the fault of the current administration. Why are people so silly? McCain is clearly the victim here, whom everyone conveniently blames. Within one week, suddenly everyone is all for Barack Obama. Has he really got a better plan for solving the economic crisis? Ok, so everyone says Sarah Palin is a newbie and lacks experience. Can’t the same be said for him?

Posted by: DC | October 3, 2008, 3:15 am 3:15 am

Concerned American…
Thanks for that link to the GAO office, but the numbers aren’t matching up. Don’t get me wrong here, am not trying to say you’re wrong, that is info from their site, but the numbers in the Bill and the description of who pays… compared to the GAO just don’t jive.
I just got off work and checked the site real quick, will get back to you on the other bill that you posted. But after a quick glance, (remember, I just took a really quick look at it) am wondering why we had to have a bill for boxing in Indian territory/tribes?
Heliocracy…
I respect your opinion on the S&L situation, but that’s also part of the argument, we should NOT have bailed them out or anyone else. If a business is mismanaged, it should be allowed to fail, or a private entity should buy it, not the taxpayers. Look, I own stocks and when I created my account (as with every other investor) there is a clause in the process that makes clear that any finances/funds that are used in the investing process are NOT FDIC insured and can lose their value, that’s part of the risk.

Posted by: Brian S | October 3, 2008, 8:11 am 8:11 am

Question – Who said this:
“Naturally the common people don’t want war. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”
Answer: Hermann Goering
Tactic last used by: George W. Bush

Posted by: JustSayNoToMac | October 3, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm

A vote for Bob Barr is not a wasted vote because it will help him get at least 5% of the general vote in each state. Each state where he gets 5% or higher means automatic ballot access for the Libertarian Party in the next election. Which means that instead of spending an entire year gaining petition signatures to gain ballot access and fighting bogus lawsuits from the Republicans to remove our candidate from ballots, the party can spend all that time and money on actual campaigning, TV and Radio ads, and actually get enough media exposure to give the two-party system a real run. So this vote is not about winning this election, it’s about winning automatic ballot access to make it easier to win future elections and easier to break the strangle hold that Republicans and Democrats have on our government. So if you want to continue living in a two-party quasi-dictatorship vote for McBama. If you want to increase the chances of someday in the future being able to elect a president who actually cares about the Constitution, then vote for Bob Barr.

Posted by: Randy Speeg | October 6, 2008, 10:22 am 10:22 am

SENATOR OBAMA,ANOTHER POSSIBLE innocent poorer black american ALSO NEEDS YOUR VOICE FOR JUSTICE AND REASON ???
DOES GOD NEED TO LOBBY OUR US CONGRESSIONAL LEADERS OF THE FREE WORLD ON BEHALF OF OUR POORER AMERICAN’S SENATOR OBAMA,OR ARE YOU WATCHING OUT FOR THEM ??
SURELY OUR US CONGRESS & US SUPREME COURT BOTH KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A STATE MURDER IN GEORGIA OR A POSSIBLE EXECUTION OF TROY DAVIS IN GEORGIA NEXT WEEK ???
OUR US CONGRESSIONAL LEADERS OF THE FREE WORLD CONTINUE TO DENY MIDDLE CLASS AND WORKING POOR AMERICANS PROPER LEGAL REPRESENTATION EVEN THOUGH WRONGFUL EXECUTIONS & FALSE INCARCERATIONS CONTINUE ALL ACROSS AMERICA ???
*** 700 BILLION $$$ AVAILABLE FOR US BAILOUT, & NO $$$ FOR ALL POORER AMERICANS PROPER LEGAL REPRESENTATION ???????
WHERE ARE AMERICA ‘S RELIGIOUS LEADERS ??
SENATOR OBAMA, THIS JUDICIAL INJUSTICE HAS BECOME AN AMERICAN ART FORM, AND NO LONGER CAN BE KEPT HIDDEN OR SECRET FROM THE AMERICAN PEOPLE EVEN IF CERTAIN (501c3) U$ RELIGIOU$ LEADER$ HAVE BEEN $ILENCED ??
LETS ALL HOPE OUR MEDIA FRIENDS CONTINUE TO SHOW AN INTEREST IN REPORTING ON THIS AMERICAN HORROR FACING THESE (TENS OF THOUSANDS) FORGOTTEN AND TRAPPED POORER AMERICANS, AND HOW THIS PRESIDENTIAL CONTENDER HANDLES THIS VERY SERIOUS ISSUE FACING AMERICA’S LATINO AND BLACK AMERICAN COMMUNITIES ????
WITH 80% OF THE BLACK AMERICAN VOTERS SAYING THEY SUPPORT SENATOR OBAMA IN THIS PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, IT IS ONLY FAIR FOR EVERYONE TO KNOW PRIOR BEING ELECTED OUR NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES HOW THIS DEMOCRATIC SENATOR TRULY FEELS ABOUT THIS AMERICAN JUDICIAL INJUSTICE CONTINUING TO INFLICT GRAVE HARM ON THE BLACK & LATINO AMERICAN FAMILIES AND THEIR COMMUNITIES NATIONWIDE ??????
*** WHEN GOD’S FACE BECAME VERY RED ***
THE US SUPREME COURT GAVE ENEMY COMBATANTS FEDERAL APPEAL HC RIGHTS LAWYERS AND PROPER ACCESS TO US FEDERAL COURTS,AND POORER AMERICANS (MANY EVEN ON DEATH ROW) ARE DENIED PROPER FEDERAL APPEAL LEGAL REPRESENTATION TO OUR US FEDERAL COURTS OF APPEAL, AND ROTTING IN AMERICAN PRISONS NATIONWIDE ?????????
**** INNOCENT AMERICANS ARE DENIED REAL HC RIGHTS WITH THEIR FEDERAL APPEALS !
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE $LOWLY FINDING OUT HOW EA$Y IT I$ FOR MIDDLE CLA$$ AND WORKING POOR AMERICAN$ TO FALL VICTIM TO OUR U$ MONETARY JUDICIAL $Y$TEM.
****WHEN THE US INNOCENT WERE ABANDONED BY THE GUILTY ****
The prison experts have reported that there are 100,000 innocent Americans currently being falsely imprisoned along with the 2,300,000 total US prison population nationwide.
Since our US Congress has never afforded poor prison inmates federal appeal legal counsel for their federal retrials,they have effectively closed the doors on these tens of thousands of innocent citizens ever being capable of possibly exonerating themselves to regain their freedom through being granted new retrials.
This same exact unjust situation was happening in our Southern States when poor and mostly uneducated Black Americans were being falsely imprisoned for endless decades without the needed educational skills to properly submit their own written federal trial appeals.
This devious and deceptive judicial process of making our poor and innocent prison inmates formulate and write their own federal appeal legal cases for possible retrials on their state criminal cases,is still in effect today even though everyone in our US judicial system knows that without proper legal representation, these tens of thousands of innocent prison inmates will be denied their rightful opportunities of ever being granted new trials from our federal appeal judges!!
Sadly, the true US *legal* Federal Appeal situation that occurs when any of our uneducated American prison inmates are forced to attempt to submit their own written Federal Appeals (from our prisons nationwide) without the assistance of proper legal counsel, is that they all are in reality being denied their legitimate rights for Habeas Corpus with our US FEDERAL COURTS and will win any future Supreme Court Case concerning this injustice!
For our judicial system and our US Congressional Leaders Of The Free World to continue to pretend that this is a real and fair opportunity for our American Middle Class and Working Poor Citizens, only delays the very needed future change of Federal Financing of all these Federal appeals becoming a normal formula of Our American judicial system.
It was not so very long ago that Public Defenders became a Reality in this country.Prior that legal reality taking place, their were also some who thought giving anyone charged with a crime a free lawyer was a waste of taxpayers $$.
This FACADE and HORROR of our Federal Appeal proce$$ is not worthy of the Greatest Country In The World!
***GREAT SOCIETIES THAT DO NOT PROTECT EVEN THEIR INNOCENT, BECOME THE GUILTY!
A MUST READ ABOUT AMERICAN INJUSTICE:
1) YAHOO 2) GOOGLE
MANNY GONZALES THE KID THAT EVERYONE FORGOT IN THE CA PRISON SYSTEM. ** A JUDICIAL RIDE OF ONES LIFE !
lawyersforpooramericans@yahoo.com
(424-247-2013)

Posted by: DOUGLAS FIELD | October 8, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm

SENATOR OBAMA,ANOTHER POSSIBLE innocent poorer black american ALSO NEEDS YOUR VOICE FOR JUSTICE AND REASON ???????
DOES GOD NEED TO LOBBY OUR US CONGRESSIONAL LEADERS OF THE FREE WORLD ON BEHALF OF OUR POORER AMERICAN’S SENATOR OBAMA,OR ARE YOU WATCHING OUT FOR THEM ??
SURELY OUR US CONGRESS & US SUPREME COURT BOTH KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A STATE MURDER IN GEORGIA, OR THE POSSIBLE EXECUTION OF TROY DAVIS IN GEORGIA ???
OUR US CONGRESSIONAL LEADERS OF THE FREE WORLD CONTINUE TO DENY MIDDLE CLASS AND WORKING POOR AMERICANS PROPER LEGAL REPRESENTATION EVEN THOUGH WRONGFUL EXECUTIONS & FALSE INCARCERATIONS CONTINUE ALL ACROSS AMERICA ???
*** 700 BILLION $$$ AVAILABLE FOR US BAILOUT, & NO $$$ FOR ALL POORER AMERICANS PROPER LEGAL REPRESENTATION ???????
WHERE ARE AMERICA ‘S RELIGIOUS LEADERS ??
SENATOR OBAMA, THIS JUDICIAL INJUSTICE HAS BECOME AN AMERICAN ART FORM, AND NO LONGER CAN BE KEPT HIDDEN OR SECRET FROM THE AMERICAN PEOPLE EVEN IF CERTAIN (501c3) U$ RELIGIOU$ LEADER$ HAVE BEEN $ILENCED ??
LETS ALL HOPE OUR MEDIA FRIENDS CONTINUE TO SHOW AN INTEREST IN REPORTING ON THIS AMERICAN HORROR FACING THESE (TENS OF THOUSANDS) FORGOTTEN AND TRAPPED POORER AMERICANS, AND HOW THIS PRESIDENTIAL CONTENDER HANDLES THIS VERY SERIOUS ISSUE FACING AMERICA’S LATINO AND BLACK AMERICAN COMMUNITIES ????
WITH 80% OF THE BLACK AMERICAN VOTERS SAYING THEY SUPPORT SENATOR OBAMA IN THIS PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, IT IS ONLY FAIR FOR EVERYONE TO KNOW PRIOR BEING ELECTED OUR NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES HOW THIS DEMOCRATIC SENATOR TRULY FEELS ABOUT THIS AMERICAN JUDICIAL INJUSTICE CONTINUING TO INFLICT GRAVE HARM ON THE BLACK & LATINO AMERICAN FAMILIES AND THEIR COMMUNITIES NATIONWIDE ??????
*** WHEN GOD’S FACE BECAME VERY RED ***
THE US SUPREME COURT GAVE ENEMY COMBATANTS FEDERAL APPEAL HC RIGHTS LAWYERS AND PROPER ACCESS TO US FEDERAL COURTS,AND POORER AMERICANS (MANY EVEN ON DEATH ROW) ARE DENIED PROPER FEDERAL APPEAL LEGAL REPRESENTATION TO OUR US FEDERAL COURTS OF APPEAL, AND ROTTING IN AMERICAN PRISONS NATIONWIDE ?????????
**** INNOCENT AMERICANS ARE DENIED REAL HC RIGHTS WITH THEIR FEDERAL APPEALS !
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE $LOWLY FINDING OUT HOW EA$Y IT I$ FOR MIDDLE CLA$$ AND WORKING POOR AMERICAN$ TO FALL VICTIM TO OUR U$ MONETARY JUDICIAL $Y$TEM.
****WHEN THE US INNOCENT WERE ABANDONED BY THE GUILTY ****
The prison experts have reported that there are 100,000 innocent Americans currently being falsely imprisoned along with the 2,300,000 total US prison population nationwide.
Since our US Congress has never afforded poor prison inmates federal appeal legal counsel for their federal retrials,they have effectively closed the doors on these tens of thousands of innocent citizens ever being capable of possibly exonerating themselves to regain their freedom through being granted new retrials.
This same exact unjust situation was happening in our Southern States when poor and mostly uneducated Black Americans were being falsely imprisoned for endless decades without the needed educational skills to properly submit their own written federal trial appeals.
This devious and deceptive judicial process of making our poor and innocent prison inmates formulate and write their own federal appeal legal cases for possible retrials on their state criminal cases,is still in effect today even though everyone in our US judicial system knows that without proper legal representation, these tens of thousands of innocent prison inmates will be denied their rightful opportunities of ever being granted new trials from our federal appeal judges!!
Sadly, the true US *legal* Federal Appeal situation that occurs when any of our uneducated American prison inmates are forced to attempt to submit their own written Federal Appeals (from our prisons nationwide) without the assistance of proper legal counsel, is that they all are in reality being denied their legitimate rights for Habeas Corpus with our US FEDERAL COURTS and will win any future Supreme Court Case concerning this injustice!
For our judicial system and our US Congressional Leaders Of The Free World to continue to pretend that this is a real and fair opportunity for our American Middle Class and Working Poor Citizens, only delays the very needed future change of Federal Financing of all these Federal appeals becoming a normal formula of Our American judicial system.
It was not so very long ago that Public Defenders became a Reality in this country.Prior that legal reality taking place, their were also some who thought giving anyone charged with a crime a free lawyer was a waste of taxpayers $$.
This FACADE and HORROR of our Federal Appeal proce$$ is not worthy of the Greatest Country In The World!
***GREAT SOCIETIES THAT DO NOT PROTECT EVEN THEIR INNOCENT, BECOME THE GUILTY!
A MUST READ ABOUT AMERICAN INJUSTICE:
1) YAHOO AND 2) GOOGLE
MANNY GONZALES THE KID THAT EVERYONE FORGOT IN THE CA PRISON SYSTEM.
** A JUDICIAL RIDE OF ONES LIFE !
lawyersforpooramericans@yahoo.com
(424-247-2013)

Posted by: DOUGLAS FIELD | October 8, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm

Douglas….
Here is an article that you might find interesting. Just so that you know this is not a post that is trying to make light of the situation that you are working on. The Headline is:
Barr seeks clemency for Troy Davis
The link to the story (at least part of the story) is:
http://blog.bobbarr2008.com/2008/09/19/barr-seeks-clemency-for-troy-davis/
I tried to go to the Macon.com web site, but their link had expired. But the link to the Barr site is still valid. It took me a few minutes to go back and find it.

Posted by: Brian S | October 9, 2008, 2:39 am 2:39 am

Bob who? Look, if you wish to throw away your vote, why announce it on the Internet. Most of us don’t about the person you’re voting for. Thank you!

Posted by: what667 | October 21, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm

what667… the only vote that is thrown away is one that is cast for the ‘lesser evil’ or to ‘block’ another candidate. I choose to use my vote as a stand for principle.
The problem with this nation is that the Republicans and Democrats have a stranglehold on the media and they are the only ones being followed. Both of them believe in larger government with more power.

Posted by: Brian S | October 22, 2008, 2:37 am 2:37 am

TROY DAVIS, PLEASE REMEMBER THAT AMERICA IS NOT THE OLD SOUTH ~ AFRICA !
A $TATE ECONOMIC BOYCOTT OF GEORGIA INTERNATIONALLY WILL OBVIOU$LY BE THE END RE$ULT OF GEORGIA DECIDING TO MURDER A PO$$IBLE INNOCENT TROY DAVI$ WITHOUT A NEW AND FAIR TRIAL ?
US CONGRESSIONAL MEMBERS WHO ARE ALSO LAWYERS BY TRADE, CONTINUE TO DENY poorer AMERICAN’S PROPER LEGAL REPRESENTATION !!!
THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY NEEDS TO BEGIN A FORMAL INVESTIGATION INTO THESE US CONGRESSIONAL CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY, AND HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS BEING INFLICTED ON poorer AMERICAN’S LIKE MR.TROY DAVIS OF GEORGIA !!!
HAVING BEEN DENIED APPEAL LAWYERS FOR THREE YEARS ON DEATH ROW IN GEORGIA MR. TROY DAVIS IS NOW BEING EXECUTED FOR A CRIME HE MIGHT NOT HAVE EVEN BEEN INVOLVED WITH !!!
SENATOR OBAMA PLEASE LET THIS COUNTRIES VOTERS KNOW YOUR FEELINGS AND THOUGHTS ABOUT A NEEDED FUTURE REPAIR AND RENOVATION OF OUR BROKEN JUDICIAL SYSTEM THAT CONTINUES TO ALLOW THE EXECUTION’S OF EVEN POSSIBLE INNOCENT AMERICAN’S LIKE TROY DAVIS OF GEORGIA ?????
BEING THE WEALTHIEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD SENATOR OBAMA, DON’T WE NEED AS THE LEADERS OF THE FREE WORLD TO BEGIN ONCE AGAIN TO RE-INVEST THE PROPER MONIE$ IN OUR OWN US JUDICIAL SYSTEM, ASSURING ALL OF OUR CITIZENS THEIR RIGHTS TO FAIR TRIALS WITH PROPER LEGAL REPRESENTATION ???
DOES GOD NEED TO LOBBY OUR US CONGRESSIONAL LEADERS OF THE FREE WORLD ON BEHALF OF OUR poorer american’s SENATOR OBAMA,OR ARE YOU WATCHING OUT FOR THEM ??
***OUR US CONGRESS CONTINUES TO DENY MIDDLE CLASS AND WORKING POOR AMERICANS PROPER LEGAL REPRESENTATION EVEN THOUGH WRONGFUL EXECUTIONS & FALSE INCARCERATIONS CONTINUE ALL ACROSS AMERICA ???
*** 700 BILLION $$$ AVAILABLE FOR US BAILOUT, & NO $$$ FOR ALL POORER AMERICANS PROPER LEGAL REPRESENTATION ? SENATOR OBAMA, THIS JUDICIAL INJUSTICE HAS BECOME AN AMERICAN ART FORM, AND NO LONGER CAN BE KEPT HIDDEN OR SECRET FROM THE AMERICAN PEOPLE EVEN IF CERTAIN (501c3) U$ RELIGIOU$ LEADER$ HAVE BEEN $ILENCED ??
LETS ALL HOPE OUR MEDIA FRIENDS CONTINUE TO SHOW AN INTEREST IN REPORTING ON THIS AMERICAN HORROR FACING THESE (TENS OF THOUSANDS) FORGOTTEN AND TRAPPED POORER AMERICANS, AND HOW THIS PRESIDENTIAL CONTENDER HANDLES THIS VERY SERIOUS ISSUE FACING AMERICA’S LATINO AND BLACK AMERICAN COMMUNITIES ????
WITH 80% OF THE BLACK AMERICAN VOTERS SAYING THEY SUPPORT SENATOR OBAMA IN THIS PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, IT IS ONLY FAIR FOR EVERYONE TO KNOW PRIOR BEING ELECTED OUR NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES HOW THIS DEMOCRATIC SENATOR TRULY FEELS ABOUT THIS AMERICAN JUDICIAL INJUSTICE CONTINUING TO INFLICT GRAVE HARM ON THE BLACK & LATINO AMERICAN FAMILIES AND THEIR COMMUNITIES NATIONWIDE ??????
*** WHEN GOD’S FACE BECAME VERY RED *** THE US SUPREME COURT GAVE ENEMY COMBATANTS FEDERAL APPEAL HC RIGHTS LAWYERS AND PROPER ACCESS TO US FEDERAL COURTS,AND POORER AMERICANS (MANY EVEN ON DEATH ROW) ARE DENIED PROPER FEDERAL APPEAL LEGAL REPRESENTATION TO OUR US FEDERAL COURTS OF APPEAL, AND ROTTING IN AMERICAN PRISONS NATIONWIDE ?????????
**** INNOCENT AMERICANS ARE DENIED REAL HC RIGHTS WITH THEIR FEDERAL APPEALS ! THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE $LOWLY FINDING OUT HOW EA$Y IT I$ FOR MIDDLE CLA$$ AND WORKING POOR AMERICAN$ TO FALL VICTIM TO OUR U$ MONETARY JUDICIAL $Y$TEM.
****WHEN THE US INNOCENT WERE ABANDONED BY THE GUILTY **** The prison experts have reported that there are 100,000 innocent Americans currently being falsely imprisoned along with the 2,300,000 total US prison population nationwide.
***WHERE ARE AMERICA’S RELIGIOUS LEADERS ??????? Since our US Congress has never afforded poor prison inmates federal appeal legal counsel for their federal retrials,they have effectively closed the doors on these tens of thousands of innocent citizens ever being capable of possibly exonerating themselves to regain their freedom through being granted new retrials.
This same exact unjust situation was happening in our Southern States when poor and mostly uneducated Black Americans were being falsely imprisoned for endless decades without the needed educational skills to properly submit their own written federal trial appeals.
This devious and deceptive judicial process of making our poor and innocent prison inmates formulate and write their own federal appeal legal cases for possible retrials on their state criminal cases,is still in effect today even though everyone in our US judicial system knows that without proper legal representation, these tens of thousands of innocent prison inmates will be denied their rightful opportunities of ever being granted new trials from our federal appeal judges!!
Sadly, the true US *legal* Federal Appeal situation that occurs when any of our uneducated American prison inmates are forced to attempt to submit their own written Federal Appeals (from our prisons nationwide) without the assistance of proper legal counsel, is that they all are in reality being denied their legitimate rights for Habeas Corpus with our US FEDERAL COURTS and will win any future Supreme Court Case concerning this injustice!
For our judicial system and our US Congressional Leaders Of The Free World to continue to pretend that this is a real and fair opportunity for our American Middle Class and Working Poor Citizens, only delays the very needed future change of Federal Financing of all these Federal appeals becoming a normal formula of Our American judicial system.
It was not so very long ago that Public Defenders became a Reality in this country.Prior that legal reality taking place, their were also some who thought giving anyone charged with a crime a free lawyer was a waste of taxpayers $$.
This FACADE and HORROR of our Federal Appeal proce$$ is not worthy of the Greatest Country In The World! ***GREAT SOCIETIES THAT DO NOT PROTECT EVEN THEIR INNOCENT, BECOME THE GUILTY !
A MUST READ ABOUT AMERICAN INJUSTICE:
1) YAHOO 2) GOOGLE
(MANNY GONZALES THE KID THAT EVERYONE FORGOT IN THE CA PRISON SYSTEM.) ** A JUDICIAL RIDE OF ONES LIFE !
***Someone please tell our US Congress that the GED degree that Manny Gonzales acquired in prison is not a LAW DEGREE !!!!!!
lawyersforpooramericans@yahoo.com (424-247-2013)

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