Biden: ‘Divisive, scurrilous’ GOP will throw bathroom sink, too

oh that Joe, the hair-plugged botox lose-That’s kitchen sink. oh I get it another attack on “joe the plumber”
Guess what Joe-McCain is going positive. We have positive proof Obama was a member of a Socialist party.

Socialist? Marxist? When did wanting to help build up and create a life better for lower and middle income people become a bad thing? Healthy people equals greater productivity equals fewer lost work days which means businesses will prosper. The republicans had their 8 years of dictatorship, not democracy and its time to move in a new and better direction.

Someone keep Joe away from the bunny ranch

Are you paying attention? – We are already having to socialize the banks due to the current administration!!!! We have seen the devastating impact of Republican policies playing out in our everyday lives, do you think we’re stupid? Do you continue to want the policies of Bush, Cheney and Rove running your lives? They have just about run this country into the ground and destroyed the international reputation of the greatest country on earth. How can you defend the Republican ticket? If John McCain is such a maverick, how come he has not managed change in the TWENTY SIX years he has been in the US Senate? If he knows how to end the war, WHY HAS HE NOT SHARED THAT UP TO THIS POINT?

How ironic that the same party that has continually taken away our rights and civil liberities, claims they are the party of “freedom”.
But put a waving flag behind you, spew a couple meaningless platitudes, say “patriot” a few times and the lemmings will buy anything that follows.
The original patriots were not soldiers in uniform, they were ordinary folks who stood up against an oppressive government. A government who did not represent them and in which they had no representaion.
Eight years of Republican doctrines necessitates the new patriots stand up and remove them from power.

What’s wrong spreading wealth aroud? Zero is so Harvard smart, he knows what’s good for ya. Trust him. He will take from the rich idiots like his friend Buffet and give you the poor, less-educated, gun and God-hugging lazibones their rich wealth. With Buffet’s $50 billion he gave his rich friend Gates, Zero would have made 50000 millionaire out of his Chicago street that his used to organize.
It is this that Zero Believes In – from each according to his ability, to each according to his need. What a perfect world that Zero will help to lead us! Yes He Can.

Dog needs a bath ,
Your right and you are wrong.The more we allow to let goverment take control of our life the more we lose as a nation.You blame corporations for the problems in this country I blame people and the goverment.I own a Buissness and any increase I get from Uncle sam Gets past directly on to the consumer who ultimately suffers!!!

I am Voting Obama because of the following lies, I hear from Republican.
- I hear that Obama is a Muslim.
- I hear that Obama pals with terrorist.
- I hear that Obama dangerous and lacks experience.
- I hear that Obama is going to spread the wealth and all the businesses are gong to shutdown
- I hear that Obama health care coverage is Govt take over.
- I hear that I do not live in Pro-America places
I know who the real Barack Obama is from last 20 months and I do NOT watch Faux News to get my information.
You have to be of real low IQ who can’t see how pathetic is our coutry with Republican policies.
Even intellectual(if there is such thing) conservatives are slowly realise that country need a change for better with Obama.

I think the straight talk express drove off a cliff and is taking the McCain campaign and the Republican party with it. All this sleeze is just pitiful and shows how desperate McCain has become. How sad that a war hero who took the high road as a POW turns into a troll when he runs for president.

Government controlling your life– I got two words for you: homeland security. The Repiglicans have just presided over the largest expansion of government in U.S. history– and all for the purpose of keeping an eye on you and to listen in on your phone calls. It’s the Repiglicans and their religious crazy friends who are interested in controlling your lives. It’s one of the main reasons that Palin is scary– she’s so non- Alaskan in her desire to run your life for you. I hate you Repiglicans, I really do.
gerald clough
http://www.savagerun.com

Reddog,
First off, it’s the use of the word “socialism” I was commenting on. But your point of increased pricing is somewhat valid. However, I don’t agree.
85% of small busineeses will benefit from Obama’s plan. Which means 85% will have a positive impact on the economy because their costs will go DOWN. If you’re making more than $250k/year as a business and are actually paying 35% (as McCain wants us to believe), you need a better accountant.
Seriously. You should be sheltering your money. The Fortune 500 average is 17% paid in taxes. That’s NOT 35%. I pay more than that and I’m certainly not making over a quarter million.
In eight years, the top 5% of wealthy Americans have DOUBLED their holdings, and the middle class has seen a REDUCTION in pay.
That’s wealth redistribution. But it’s going the wrong way.
When a guy tells you he will take your money and give it the already well of, that’s supposedly “Americun”.
But when someone suggests a more equitable system that will benefit 85% of the citizens, that’s “evil socialism”.
Supply side economics is a complete FAILURE. By every single metric used, it failed. The only reason we hung on for this long was we kept borrowing from other nations to falsely stimulate the economy. It’s caught up to us.(Debt increased by $5 TRLLION in just eight years)
Sorry, but no McCain/Palin. (I won’t even start about the choice of the latter)

Minn Rep Michelle Bachmann on Chris Mathews show last night called for a investigation of Congress to see who was “un-American” and who was “pro-American” in Congress. Who was that said “Facism will come wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross” Her Dem opponent for Congress has since raised $107,000 for his campaign since this went viral last night. Wake Up America!

You blame corporations for the problems in this country I blame people and the goverment.
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Government of the people, by the people, for the people. Ever hear of it?
Since when has Corporations ever had the best interest of the people in mind?
Fear and Greed all they have. A five year outlook, no moral standing, no spine to do the right thing, it is all money. Corporations have no heart, no soul, all they ahve is a meaningless mission statement.

I get Palin. I finally understand why McCain chose her.
He didn’t only choose her because of her gender to rally the HRC disaffected voter or her executive experience as a governor, he chose her because she is a throw away. She is disposable. He can use her to rally the negativity, fire up subconscious racism, invoke fear and do it with a “I’m a common person just like you” persona. McCain is using Palin. The fact that she is a female highlights his disrespect toward women. McCain’s policies on women’s health and equal pay for equal work continues to show his condescending attitude toward females.
Had Palin been a male, she would have never been chosen. McCain could/would never throw a male counterpart under the bus to spread the negative sleaze his campaign has been spewing.

McSame and the Repiglicans only know mud so it is easy to keep wallowing in it.

Funny, I’m certain that government grew under the Bush and the republican majority, so that kills the socialism argument. By the way, it was Mc Cain who advocated the buying of failed mortgages.
McCain chose Palin cause she is a woman. His judgment was based on politics alone. She is clueless. Erratic doesn’t go far enough to describe his behavior.
Was Condie Rice not qualified enough? Huckabee? Romney? And wasn’t Palin’s husband involved in a secessionist movement/group?
What a joke…lmao

so funny that GOP thinks they are the symbol of America…. and just look where we are after 8 years of GOP.
market is crushing down, deficit is skyroketting, home closure, broken health care…. is this what you want?
drop capitalism or socialism…. are we happy, are majority of americans happy?
or only top minority is very happy?
drop the ideology… be realistic….

I saw a news reel of McCain/Palin backers going into a rally the other day and I was reminded by the hatred and prejudice during the 60′s with people yelling terrorist, Obama Bin Laden, and he and his friends are going to blow us up, and even 1 guy had a stuffed monkey with an Obama sticker on it.
It’s eerily similar to the skinheads / kkk / nazi’s who generate fears in unintelligent people to be afraid of anyone not like them.
Remember the Bush philosophy that if you’re against the Iraq War, you’re un-American!
You have this Palen weirdo from Alaska with the voodoo priest and the husband belonging to a succession group who wants to succeed from the USA puking her rhetoric of lies and stating she is glad to be at pro–American towns. Don’t you all see what is happening in this country? It’s becoming very scary and should remind us of the racial violence and hatred caused by the McCarthy era of calling anyone who wasn’t with them communists. My neighbor had an Obama sticker on his care and someone painted a swatsika on his car and said “kill all nig#$@#” & Obama lovers.”
You, Sarah Palin and John McCain are responsible for throwing gasoline on the embers of our violent past of hatred and fear dividing this country literally into black & White.
What we deserve in this country is for our taxes to be used in educating our children and keeping them healthy and not be used for unnecessary wars and rip-off contractors who are friends with the government…Aren’t we supposed to be a country by the people and for the people?
Socialism is only a word, but to some extent it is used around the world where countries take care of their people like Canada, Europe, Netherlands, Holland,and Asia. We are rated way down compared to the rest of the world in healthcare, life expectancy, and education and it amazes me their are people in this country who seemingly don’t care where our taxes go, but if someone wants to use them to educate our children or keep us all healthy they yell “Socialism”
Terrorism is only a word too, but it’s being exploited in this campaign and we look like schoolyard children fighting on the playground for no reason.
You want to know why the “real” terrorists never struck us again after 9/11? Because it has worked and is still working. They intended to destroy our free society and it’s working.

Giving the tax breaks that go to the rich, to the middle class is socialist?
Why because you are trying to help those who truly need it.
Smells of a double standard.

Senator Biden, if they will condone this, what won’t they do?
http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2008/10/16/confess/

I love how Republicans claim Democrats want socialism when it is Bush and Mc Cain policies that are socialist. Bailing out the banks and giant corporations while leaving regular people and small business to die. As Robert Reich said on The Daily Show the other night,we have socialism for the banks and capitalism for the people. Thank goodness the lies of the Republican party are finally coming back to haunt them. If you look at the America’s history since the industrial revolution, it is pretty clear that every time we have a Republican President the economy gets betters for only the rich and worse for the poor and middle class, greed sets in until the bubble bursts and it takes a Democrat President to come in and fix the mess. The greedy rich did not learn from the money orgy of the 1920s that led to the stick market crash of 1929 and the last Depression of the 1930s. It took Franklin Roosevelt, as Democrat to fix the mess Republican’s made. Then, the greed and the Reagan era had to be fixed by Clinton. Now the greed of the Bush era has to be fixed by Obama. I hope people actually learn this time, tat unbridled greed and economic growth for only the wealthy, the so-called trickle down theory, does not work in the long run. Since the 1930s, the Democrats have had a better more stable long term way of making everyone better off. It should be noted that the Republican Party of Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt no longer exists. If either of them were alive today, they’d be Democrats.

It’s really disgusting that the Republicans, who had the presidency for eight years and the house and senate for six are not hanging their collective heads in SHAME at what they have done to this country. Instead they just continue their old line of attack, attack, attack anyone who wants to change their ruinous policies. Those who have plundered an entire nation to the tune of trillions of dollars, who lied us into a war that cost 4,000 plus American lives and over a million and a quarter innocent Iraqi lives. Who have tirelessly worked to drive this country into the ground every day they’ve held their stolen office. It’s time people see who the real fascists, the real communists are. They have a lot to account for.

Kerry, You and I must be soulmates, because I couldn’t agree more. This nation desperately needs a new set of priorities. We need to focus our energies right here at home and repair our failing economy, rebuild our infrastructure, and try somehow to recapture the ability to work together as one people for the common good. If that is a dream that has been lost forever, then I guess it doesn’t really matter much who gets elected, but this old Capitalist grandmother is voting for Barack Obama and Joe Biden, and proud to do it!

Could anything be worse than 8 years of Bush/Cheney??
You betcha!… 4 years of McCain/Palin. I cannot believe how many “misguided” people buy into their nonsense. They support the same policies that the GOP has been using to destroy the middle class. Subsidize lower taxes for the corporations and wealthiest Americans… with money and reduced services from the middle class. BTW.. McCain’s healthcare plan will be an absolute disaster…. resulting in taxpayers having to subsidize a high risk pool for about 40 to 60 million Americans who will be denied by medical underwriting.

Man, reading these posts I’m almost starting to have faith that Americans are finally seeing through the same empty rhetoric and tactics that gave us George W Bush.

Put it this way, had the United States been taken over by the reds a decade ago, would it be worse than what W and his gang have done on every front to destroy the constitution, bankrupt the economy, and divide the country?
Is this the kind of America you want?

Why is it fair that Millions of millions of people have sucseeded throughout time without goverment handouts.I have no problem helping someone help is onething handouts are another.

Put it this way, had the United States been taken over by the reds a decade ago, would it be worse than what W and his gang have done on every front to destroy the constitution, bankrupt the economy, and divide the country?
Is this the kind of America you want?
Posted by: Byron | Oct 18, 2008 11:28:51 AM
You blame bush and his gang for this Economic mess look no further than the democratic run congress DODD PELOSI FRANK REID.

Thinking – Black Hawk was a bad idea of Clinton’s.

McCain’s association with Liddy isn’t news. The Chicago Tribune covered it back in May, when the Clinton campaign was roadtesting the McCain campaign’s tactics. Let’s compare:
* Bill Ayers participated in bombing a statue, the New York Police headquarters, the U.S. Capitol, and the Pentagon. G. Gordon Liddy participated in a White house plot to subvert the Constitution.
* Ayers has never been convicted or served prison time. Liddy was convicted of conspiracy, burglary, and illegal wire-tapping, was senteced to 20 years, and served 5.5 until President Carter commuted his sentence.
* Ayers is now a professor of education. Liddy is a conservative talk radio host.
* Ayers has said “we didn’t do enough” to stop the Vietnam War, a statement interpreted by some to mean he thinks he should have set off more bombs in the early 1970s. In 1994, after the feds stormed the branch Davidian compound in Waco, Liddy said on his radio program, [sorry, rough language coming] “Now if the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms comes to disarm you and they are bearing arms, resist them with arms. Go for a head shot; they’re going to be wearing bulletproof vests. … Kill the sons of bitches.” (And as for Liddy on Hitler….)
* Ayers and his wife hosted a campaign event at his house for Obama in 1995. Liddy hosted a campaign event for McCain in 1998.
* Ayers donated $200 to Obama in 2001. Liddy has given at least $5,000 to McCain over the years, including $1,000 this year.
* Senator Obama has called Ayers’ terrorist acts “despicable” and condemned them. Senator McCain appeared on Liddy’s radio show last November and said, “I’m proud of you, I’m proud of your family…. It’s always a pleasure for me to come on your program, Gordon, and congratulations on your continued success and adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great.”
I’m not going to bother with quantifying the sins of Ayers and Liddy. And please note, I offer no defense of Ayers here. Go ahead, assume the worst of both men, and you can say, as does Chapman, that each man “back in the 1970s, extolled violence and committed crimes in the name of a radical ideology — and… has never shown remorse or admitted error.”
It’s simple: if you think Ayers is a voting issue, then you must think Liddy is a voting issue. Have fun voting for Barr or Nader.

Joe – your OK – BUT that other guy – is a FRAUD! Obama is an Arrogant, Radical FRAUD – his corrupt gang/CULT members are trying to BULLY their way to the top.
SMART Americans will VOTE McCain/Palin-
we can TRUST them.

reddog,
so, in your world – capitalism = happiness?

Off topic, but I want to educate a few people on our progressive tax system. You are taxed progressively. So, if you make over $250K, and we are under Obama’s tax plan, you only pay 39% on anything over 250K that you have AFTER your deductions, etc. So, if your bottom line is 275K, you will pay 39% on 25K, which ends up being $9,750. Under the current system, at 36%, you would pay 36% on 25K, which is $9000.
So, you will be paying an extra $750!!!! That’s it!! For every $25,000 above $250K, you pay an extra $750.
Jeez, that is not so bad. It is what is was back with Clinton and Reagan, I believe. I wouldn’t be whining about that, trust me.

Message to McCain/Palin & Neo-CONs: Enough is enough. McCain has no vision and no leadership ability. Palin has no interest in the actual government itself. She is driven purely by her own selfish interests, and she does not even have any kind of intellect to discuss the US Supreme Court and its important landmark cases that frame our laws. Joe Biden and Barack Obama are the best choice for our country now and for the next 8 years, especially with the current economic crisis. They do not support socialism-that’s neo-con repub talking points. Most of the fools out there who are saying that-don’t really know what socialism is! Enough with the scum-ridden attempts to link Barack with Ayers: There is NO substance to any of Ayers’ activities from 40 years ago and Barack’s campaign of TODAY. Ayers was an anti-Vietnam war protestor who engaged in questionable acts against an objectionable, unpopular war. However-he was never charged or convicted of anything and today is a well-respected college professor at a well-respected Chicago university. So drop it.

I’m thinking Alaska may be one of those NON Pro-America parts of the country based on the Alaskan Indepence party’s platform…
and…isn’t that redistribution of oil money a little….well…socialist?

Listed to the angry republicans. They’re loosing this election and the only thing they can do is bitch about how bad their opponents are. The republicans have ruined this country. Now we see their true colors and what they stand for. Not policy, not fairness to all citizens, not gamesmanship, just attacks against democrats, name calling, bitter crybaby lying, YOU ARE BAD LOSERS. This will hurt you down the road when you need independent’s votes. How could any young person who registers to vote identify themselves as a republican?

We live in the greatest country in the WORLD. I am incredibly PROUD- yes PROUD- that we are responsible for giving 50 million people their first shot at FREEDOM. Isn’t it AWESOME!!! Some of you libs need to quit drinking the kool-aid that the media, Dems, and Obama socialists are feeding you!! Beem with pride that you live in the GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD!!!!!

ful4rce, Can I ask you how Obama, who has been accused of being a liberal, can at the same time also be a socialist? He can’t be both. Some logic, please!

The RepubliCON Party is the true Socialist Party. Look at the past actions of the RepubliCON Bush Administration over the last several weeks! The government take over of our financial system. The RepubliCON negative smear campaign. The Greedy OLD Party can not say anything good about itself, so it resorts to AVOIDING the challenges and issues that are important to America. The RepubliCON RED banner missing only the sickle and the hammer!!!!

Sorry about that. I guess I get angry too when I hear what is being said. I’ll try to keep my mouth shut.

I think it’s a little nervy for a Republicans to talk about Gestapo-like tactics! Do I hear Florida 2000? do I hear the Patriot Act? Do I hear Guantanamo? The politics of fear is all they play! “You can trust us”! Yeah, right! We can trust you to favor the wealthy, to promote unfair deficits and so cslled “free trade”, to “redistribute the wealth” from the shrinking middle class to the top 1%. Get real people! I can’t stand another four years of these tactics!

fulrce.
sorry for being “elitist”…but seriously…learn how to spell…c’mon …beem? instead of beam…that’s not just a keyboard slip.
I think you may benefit from a furtherance of educational opportunities that will hopefully be offered to you under the coming Obama administration.

This whole anti-ACORN campaign is a fraud to try and suppress new voters from taking part in our democracy. This exact same phony campaign was what resulted in the US Attorney scandal and Atty Gen. Gonzales resignation and its been pulled out of the dirty tricks closet for one more try.
Further, the percentage of bad forms turned in by ACORN is almost exactly the same as the number of phony signatures turned in by the GOP when they recalled Democratic Governor Grey Davis in California. It is an inevitable by-product of low paid or volunteer signature gatherers and under intense investigation does not result in fraudulent votes being cast.

Karen…leave it to a lib to avoid the truth of the issues and attack someone with a 3.94 college GPA and a Summa Cum Laudae grad…

New Hampshire, October 17—The National Anthem and the Pledge of Alliance was scratched according to Sandra Abrevaya, communications director for the Obama campaign at the last minute because they needed more time for speeches. SOCIALISM IS ROLLING IN. We do not need the traditions, the respect, the flag, and the pledge anymore —–CHANGE IS COMING. The flag pin finally gets tossed into the wastebasket, right OBAMA.

Actually, anger is part of my persona when thinking about our leaders. I feel ripped-off ever since W came a-waltzing into DC. I’m angered and embarrassed by how he’s handled stuff. I’m actually surprised, which makes me angry, by how Obama (who will win this election) is being viciously attacked (the attacks are the very core of the GOP right now). I’m not surprised when I hear these attacks being echoed by republicans instead of issue-based debate. I know it’s easy to swallow the rhetoric that the GOP leaders dish out. I encourage you to think about what matters and what is factual.

O, Mark O., need I educate you as well?
Okay, boys and girls, here’s a little lesson for those of you drinking the kool-aid of liberal college professors, the media, and the Obama socialists…
Socialists want the government to be as involved as possible in controlling the lives of ordinary people like myself. Liberals want the exact same thing. Bigger government intrusion and control over as much as possible.
This concludes today’s lesson. I tried to keep it in simple english for those who might have difficulty understanding. I hope you boys and girls learned something.

ful4rce
You’ve been blinded by the light. Intelligent perhaps but no common sense. Liberals want honest leaders that won’t lie to them and place their children into a war based on lies.

Duffy…better blinded by the light than poisoned by the kool-aid the media, liberals, and Dems keep feeding people.
50 million people now have a real shot at FREEDOM- no more rape rooms, torture chambers, and dictatorships…It feels good to be an American. I wish Obama and liberals could allow themselves to take some pride in this reality.

ful4rce,
Sorry for attacking your spelling :)

I’d really like to get the IQ scores on these republican dead-enders. They must all be in the lowest 10%. Their rhetoric doesnt even make sense.
Posted by: bob | Oct 18, 2008 11:50:21 AM
bob ,always remember the republican battle cry ,ie ; ” no sense being stupid if you cant show it.”

Joe Botox Bidens is a Career politician expert at LYING, Biden is a gutless coward who has No moral spine.
Biden has no values, no fixed opinon, he is a weasel who goes with the wind.
Remember Biden said Obama is not qualified to be President 1 year ago and now he is on the ticket! Biden is a typical scummy politician.

Gov. Sarah Palin – SOCIALIST!
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“[In June of 2008], Republicans in Congress…united to defeat a proposed windfall tax on oil companies, deriding it as a bad idea that would discourage investment in U.S. oil exploration.
Things worked out far differently in the GOP stronghold of Alaska, a state whose economic fate is closely tied to the oil industry.
Over the opposition of oil companies, Republican Gov. Sarah Palin and Alaska’s Legislature last year approved a major INCREASE in taxes on the oil industry — a step that has generated stunning new wealth for the state as oil prices soared…
…Palin’s administration [then] gained legislative approval for a special $1,200 payment to every Alaskan to help cope with gas prices, which are among the highest in the country.
That check will come on top of the annual dividend of about $2,000 that each resident could receive this year from an oil-wealth savings account.
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Gov. Sarah Palin and President Hugo Chavez – two leaders who are popular because they tax oil companies and “spread the wealth around.

Gov. Sarah Palin is a Socialist, who like Hugo Chavez, President of Venezuela, taxes oil companies and then spreads the wealth around!
Gov. Sarah Palin is a Socialist!
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Over the opposition of oil companies, Republican Gov. Sarah Palin and Alaska’s Legislature last year approved a major INCREASE in taxes on the oil industry — a step that has generated stunning new wealth for the state as oil prices soared…
…Palin’s administration [then] gained legislative approval for a special $1,200 payment to every Alaskan to help cope with gas prices, which are among the highest in the country.
That check will come on top of the annual dividend of about $2,000 that each resident could receive this year from an oil-wealth savings account.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2008103325_alaskatax07.html

Dear Red Dog, you are a gravelly person today, you are (inside joke)! Man, it is amazing how the right wing gets all you guys so wrapped up in a dither. Obama isn’t talking about socialism, he’s talking about the ideas that came from the very beginning of our country. Back when my family got here, we helped our neighbors. If someone needed help, we gave it to them. And some of the kids from the poorest homes ended up being the same people who helped us, later, when we needed it.
You all have your pants in a twist. It is time to come down from the top of the barn and try to see all of this in a different way. Heck, you know as well as I do that the Republicans made the rich much richer in the past 8 years and it didn’t lead to more jobs – it lead to people having 7 homes, yachts, lots of jewelry, etc. You know Henry Ford’s wonderful and true idea that he needed to pay his workers enough to afford Ford cars. That is as socialist as a capitalist can get!
Hey, I got my boots on and have to go get to work on the steam engines!! Cool, huh?
I’ll get the pie in the oven tonight – so come over for coffee tomorrow and we’ll talk all this out. But I don’t allow cross words in my house, so put that cute smile back on that sweet face of yours.
Love, Mom

I see that “socialist” is the GOP troll word of the day, well how about one for McCain and the republican party, “Fascist”. They have NO regard for our Constitution, our laws or any US citizen that DOESN’T think the way they do. John McCain is a “Fascist” and will continue Bush’s plan to destroy Democracy.

JR – the fascists in this race are on the left. They will not let people speak, they are beating up people in New York, ACORN thugs are stealing votes. Good point about fascists.

plumbers, that’s load of GOP bullshitt

The idea that ACORN is somehow stealing votes by turning in defective voter registrations (as required by law!) – NOT THAT IS A SWINDLE!

Oh, but the Dems are now fascists are they? I wish you guys would make up your minds. Are they liberals, socialists or fascists? McCain’s confusion seems to have rubbed off on his supporters. No wonder the country’s in a mess.

Whose a facist?
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Typical fascists accuse their political opponents of being:
1. foreigners
2. socialists or communists
3. unpatriotic
When all else fails, they threaten their political opponents with violence, shouting out slogans like
“kill him”, “terrorist” and “off with his head”
—
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and talks likes a duck…its a duck.
Supporters at Palin’s rallies, at least,…
walk, talk and act like fascists – they are fascists.

A form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation or victimhood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion.
– Robert O. Paxton, The Anatomy of Fascism
Sounds like republicans to me.

“This will go down as the dirtiest election in American history”
because of the republicans and their lack of honor.

plumbers, hey I’m not defending thuggish behavior. If any laws have are are being broken, let’s prosecute the perpetrators. So how many Republican zealots have broken the law over the past eight years? Let’s be fair about this – the GOP is hardly a bunch of angels either.

That should be: “have or are being broken”

Posted by: plumbers | Oct 18, 2008 1:18:41 PM
Income distribution?
You can’t be bothered to read the full quote, can you.
Who needs a complicit media, when we have an electorate that won’t bother to inform itself, but is content to slavishly and mindlessly follow the talking points of the RNC or marching orders from Hannity, Beck, and Limbaugh?

duffy: “I encourage you to think about what matters and what is factual.”
“Liberals want honest leaders that won’t lie to them and place their children into a war based on lies.”
Why don’t you wiki: Saul Alinksy, ACORN, Williams Ayers, Rezko. You don’t have to like W. W is not a candidate in the election. Obama is. Read up on his ideologies and who had major influences in his life, and what they believe.
If you don’t think Obama has lied through his teeth (but in the ‘I didn’t inhale’ way), you simply refuse reality. Really, wiki Saul Alinsky and see if you don’t think Obama is taking advantage of our primed and ready ‘state of affairs’ for his agenda. If you don’t believe it is so, I’d like to hear why. But you have to read it… not just spout disbelief off the top of your head.

“He’s trying to suggest that a plumber is the guy he’s fighting for,” Obama said. “How many plumbers you know that are making a quarter-million dollars a year?” If they own their own business, they could—and if you will not stand in their way.
While the media and Left blogs continue to dig into Joe’s personal life and affairs for asking The One a question.
If Obama were truly a purveyor of a new kind of politics or a decent leader, in any sense of the word, he’d stick a different sentence into his stump speech. Something like, “Hey, everyone chill out. Joe is a man who asked me a question. As presidential candidates, John McCain and I have faced plenty of tough questions. The good citizens who ask those questions don’t deserve to be torn down for their efforts.”
Obama’s frowning upon the practice would go a long way toward quelling the bad practice of vetting every townhall and ropeline questioner as if he were a Supreme Court justice.
But you see, Obama is not a man of new politics or leadership. He is a man who endorses raising the cost of free speech for everyone who disagrees with him. He is a man who sends out Action Wire alerts to mobilize voters to shout down detractors who appear on the radio. He is a man who sends letters to the Department of Justice to ask it to investigate political ads that aren’t even inaccurate, much less criminal.
Joe’s experience is making every sensible American voter wonder whether it’s worth asking their representatives that question they have on their minds. The man who talks endlessly about the value of getting new Americans involved in the democratic process is allowing their intimidation without comment.
It seems Obama only approves of getting dead people, cartoons, and the Dallas Cowboys involved, via voter registration fraud. Mickey Mouse just don’t talk back like Joe the Plumber does.

“Wall Street are mainly elitists from the left”
are you kidding? This proves your demented, Wall Street is about as conservative as it gets. Who cares what Paulsen’s wife is, Paulsen is a republican.

JR _ I am a democrat or was. I am not defending Bush or the GOP. I am worried about this election.
Listen, we all know John McCain is not liked by the GOP. McCain works more often with Ted Kennedy than he does with Cheney. Bush hated McCain when McCain pushed for the surge – which worked and probably saved a million lives in the middle east.
When the left, including that bomd throwing brat Ayers, had us pull out of Vietname, over a million people died in Vietnam and Cambodia. Obama was all for that.

Plumbers:
I been right wing all my life and a firm believer in people working and being able to keep what they make. I also beleive in a capitalist society but to be honest with you I’ve finally realized that this country has been socialist for a very long time.
Please explain to me why it is we take money from the taxpayer an pay farmers for not growing food a large part of the billion dollar farm subsidies program.
how about subsidizing the oil companies, the insurance companies, the pharmaceutical companies, and now bailing out the banks who due to greed and bad business practices should have gone belly up.
In a capitalist society we would surely let them fail and the CEO’s with the 250 million dollar salaries would be out of work.
It would seem to me that we are already socialist the difference being that we take from the poor and give to the rich, like Robin hood in reverse.
It would seem that corporate handouts and subsides which are a re distribution of wealth are ok if it goes to the rich friends of the repubs but if Obama suggests it going to people who need it it is socialism.
If you can convince me I’m wrong I’ll vote repub otherwise I’m going across the board demo.

Alex P – please look at the SNL video.

Haynes – we all agree there are wars we should not be in, but once everyone votes for it and we are in we cannot pull out and let the innocent be punished. McCain’s surge was the right course and time has shown that.
I have heard that over an order of magnitude more people died when we left Vietnam – within a two year span – than the entire involvement including the French fiasco. Remember Kennedy got us into that one.

THERE IS NOTHING MORE SCURRILOUS THAN SCUMBAG BIDEN!!! Blaming the man who was in the car accident of your wife and children, for drunk driving! You are a liar! The man was driving a tractor and tried everything to avoid hitting your family’s car. You have lied your whole life and you have the nerve to say anyone else is scurrilous! You say drunk driving was the cause so people feel sorry for you or it helps your guilt in some way. You plagiarized and lied through your whole life so you’re in good company with Obama — two great running mates together! Going to Hell in a handbasket together!

Janet – good point. If you want real lying ask Biden any question.

Obama-Biden will win…… enough of Republican rule…they have squandered the national wealth with no remorse. McCain-Palin want to continue more of the same. They really don’t have a plan to change things.

Corzine the democratic governor of New Jersey is one of Paulsen’s old buddies from Golman. Corzine has done his best to wreck the economy of New Jersey – or so I have heard.

Biden accuses Palin of attacking some American’s patriotism, but not too long ago, Sen. Biden said it was unpatriotic of Americans to not pay more taxes than they were required to. That’s scurrilous, lots of good American’s don’t write a bigger check to Uncle Sam than they are asked, and they don’t deserve to have their patriotism smeared.
Sen. McCain attacks electoral fraud. Sen. Obama attacks John McCain.

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janet:
“WHO’S BEHIND THIS FRIGGING MESS WE ARE IN, BARNEY FRANK, CHRIS DODD THAT’S WHO. FREDDY AND FANNIE GOLDEN PARACHUTER RAINES, ALL ASSOICATES OF SENATOR OBAMA”
This along with Obama’s history of friendship with terrorists, anti-Americans, and racists makes no difference to his base supporters of blacks, die-hard democrats, and the young who think he’d cool. They need to take Obama with them and go live with his relatives in Kenya.
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– This along with Obama’s history of friendship with terrorists, anti-Americans, and racists makes no difference to his base supporters of blacks, die-hard democrats, and the young who think he’d cool. –
It seems only the same people who fell for the fear and ignorance tactics that got Bush elected and has shaped his political aganda share the above views.
And as the current McCain campaign continues down it’s path of character attacks rather than focusing on issues, the number in the polls continue to slide. I voted for McCain in the 2000 primaries because he opposed Bushes tax cuts for the wealthy and held a tax position similar to Obama this election. Not this year. This republican is voting for Obama and the future of the country.

D. Grant Haynes writes:
*how long should Americans stay in Iraq to protect Nuri al-Maliki and other American apologists?
*We all know a freed Iraqi populace will hang such people from a lamppost.
*The Iraqis will sort it out in time and maybe Americans will finally have learned a lesson?
*Reparation payments are in order.
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1. Reparations? For what? The Iraqi government is already running a multi-billion dollar surplus. You want us to pay Iraqi even more than the billions we’ve already poured into that country?
2. You seem strangely delighted at the prospect of seeing al-Maliki “hang from the lampposts”. Your glee at seeing someone hang strikes me as goulish, to say the least.
3. The Americans will learn a lesson as the “Iraqis sort it out” (by slaughtering each other, no doubt).
How will an all out Iraqi civil war teach Americans a lesson? Haven’t the Iraqi people suffered enough?
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I will be voting for Obama this Nov. 4th. I guess this just goes to show that not all Obama’s supporters agree on all the issues.:-)

McCAIN YOU AND YOUR BUDDY PHIL GRAHAM’S DEREGULATION CRASHED THE ECONOMY!
The Graham-Leach act of 1999 removed all of the regulatory protections of the Glass-Stegal Act put in place post Depression in 1932. The Glass-Steagal Act regulations stopped banks from doing exactly what they did in recent years, get to big and run wild!!!
In 2000 Phil Graham came back under George Bush and a Republican Congress and removed the rest of the regulations on financial institutions that eventually led to this entire mess!!!!
This week that earned PHIL GRAHAM an honored place on CNN’s “10 worst culprits” of the current financial crisis!
I don’t see Barnie Frank, Chuck Schumer or Chris Dodd on CNN’s “culprits list!”
And John McCain voted against deregulation time and time again throughout his career in both the House and Senate..
There is no denying these facts and Phil Graham was/is McCain’s principle economic adviser!!
CASE CLOSED!
Let’s elect SMART LEADERS FOR A CHANGE! Obama/Biden ’08!!

The Fannie Mae (housing crisis) begin with Carter and the Democrats and estended to Clinton. The Democrats put much pressure on stable banks to make loans to unqualified people, people who once their mortgage was approved, could barely make the monthly mortgage payments. Bush and the Republicans have made lots of mistakes, but the blame game should note that the Democrats mistakes lead to the present housing crisis which lead to the domino effect of a hugh financial crisis. Put the blame where it belongs.

It should be noted that most of the mortgages that Fannie Mae holds are solid mortgages. They did not make loans to people who they knew could not afford them. Those mortgages were structured so that lower income folks COULD afford to pay them. Greedy lenders and realtors applied those standards to everyone and sold houses to people who could not afford them. It has been reported that Fannie will not need very much of the bailout package just passed to shore it up, even though it holds a majority of all the mortgages in the entire country.

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I am voting for McCatn the devil I do Know.
From the Detroit Free Press, reporting on new allegations of ACORN fraud in Michigan:
“He didn’t mention reports that his campaign had given $800,000 to Citizens Services Inc. — an ACORN subsidiary — this year. His campaign said today that the money was paid as part of a get-out-the-vote effort — not voter registration — during the primary season. ACORN’s political action committee has endorsed Obama.”
$800 THOUSAND DOLLARS for get out the vote efforts during the primary season?? Hmmm . . . maybe that’s what paid for all those buses into Iowa during the caucus, all the lawyers and agitators in Texas during the caucus. More than three quarters of a million dollars for gaming the caucuses and fraud? It would be irresponsible NOT to speculate.

“I am voting for McCatn the devil I do Know.”
YEA !!! Go McCain!!! Go Palin !!!
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All you folks on the right that are SO agrieved to pay taxes – especially under a democratic administration, apparently – here’s what you need to do: Live free in the wilderness! It’s getting harder to find with drilling everywhere, but it’s still out there somewhat. Then, make sure you have no roads or bridges, no army or police, no postal system, no libraries, no public service of any kind. And be sure to let the rest of us know how it goes and how you like it!
Seriously, I wonder how it would be if everyone who paid taxes got to choose one or more categories that their dollars specifically went to? All the hawks could choose to fund the military, all us bleeding-heart liberals could choose to fund head-start programs and the like, and middle-of-the-road folks could spread it around completely. Liklihood of this happening? Zero. But it’s a ‘thought experiment’ and reminds one that it’s not just parting with some of our money that gets us upset, but disagreeing with WHAT it’s being spent on. And by the way, most of it by far is spent on the military.
So, you tax-haters who don’t want to move to the wilderness, keep pressing your representatives to cool it on military spending! There is a serious lot of infrastructure all around our country in need of rebuilding, and I’d argue that’s as real a part of our national security as the army.

If the Democrats are about reform and change they wouldn’t be spending $188 million on T.V. commercials to get Obama elected(see the New York Times today).

Is there some reason you all write to blogs? Do you enjoy hitting your heads on walls? Do you think that you can change people’s minds with some of the junk I see in this discussion?
You know, you might as well go out and find some friends and have a beer – because you are pretty much wasting time here. It is incredible to me that people get some satisfaction from writing the same things over and over – oh well, I get some satisfaction in writing here and there trying to raise the level of debate. But from what I’ve seen here, since my first post, many people are getting some sort of thrill from throwing mud.
I know you all know better than this.
You are in my prayers – and come over for coffee cake tomorrow only if you can check these attitudes at the door and talk with me about something more postiive – something that has a chance of helping us both be better people.
Do you think you are going to live forever? I know each of us struggles with our demons – but you really need to think of what you are leaving to the world.
Love, Mom

Just in case you’re new here – someone here (posing as several) has about 20 browsers opened up on his old IBM tower PC and is posting all of this anti-Obama stuff on every single political blog here, CNN and MSNBC. Oh ya, and even Alaska Daily News. Its the same person – after you’ve been here for a while you will just IGNORE like the rest of us. You can spot him a mile a way by his screen names (usually female or ‘independent something’ or ‘former dem’ or a european name). The same cut & paste blah blah as well as spelling and grammar patterns – so obvious.

Hey Dopey Joe Biden, it’s not divisive
to expect a man running for president
of the U.S. to explain how he could
sit in a church for 20 years and not
hear the Anti-White, and Anti-American
comments of Reverend Wright and
Father Flager!
It’s not divisive to ask Obama why he
lied about his relationship with
weather underground terrorist Bill
Ayers who launched Obama’s political
career in his home.
They worked closely together on the
CAC and Obama gave out grants to
promote radical behaviour amoung students which was one of Ayer’s pet
projects!
It’s not divisive to ask Obama to
explain his relationship with Acorn!
This is a group that Obama represented
legally and he also trained
community organizers for them.
His campaign gave $800,000 to an Acorn
subsidiary company this year and
Acorn is being investigated for
voter fraud in many battleground states
this election year!
Was the $800,000 a payoff to Acorn to
encourage them in their attempt to
steal the election for Obama?
We Want Answers Mr Obama and Mr Biden!

Michelle is one ugly ass, angry militant racist gorilla, dontcha think?
ugggghh, go back to Kenya b*tch!

Monkey House–Michelle isn’t going back to Kenya anytime soon. Are you kidding me, her in-laws live in 6 x 9 huts, she would have a difficult time finding lobster and caviar there. Anyway she’s too busy ripping out the roses in the Rose Garden to plant her watermelon seeds.

Janet,
2000 – 2006: FOR 6 LONG YEARS, THE REPUBLICAN MAJORITY — YES, THE MAJORITY — REMEMBER THAT TIME?
WAS RUNNING THE COUNTRY. THERE WAS NO DEMOCRATIC THREAT.
THE REPUBLICANS HAD 6 LONG YEARS — 3 TIMES AS MANY YEARS THAN THE DEMOCRATS HAVE HAD FOR ONLY THE LAST 2 — INCLUDING THE WHITE HOUSE — AND LET’S JUST LOOK AT THE TRACK RECORD:
1. REAL ESTATE — 2000 WAS THE BEGINNING OF THE ARTIFICIALLY CREATED AND WALL-STREET MANUFACTURED “BUBBLE” THAT WOULD EVENTUALLY COME TO A CRASHING FALL JUST WEEKS AGO.
IT STARTED IN 2000 – UNDER YOUR WATCH.
2. BY THE TIME THE REPUBLICAN MAJORITY WAS DIMINISHED BY A DEMOCRATIC HOUSE AND A NARROW 1 VOTE NOT A MAJORITY, BUT A SLY EDGE OVER THE REPUBLICANS IN THE SENATE IN 2006,
YOUR PARTY HAD ALREADY RUN IT’S COURSE,
DRAGGING 10 BILLION $$$$$ DOLLARS OF OUR MONEY TO IRAQ — INCLUDING ANY AND ALL FRIENDS OF BUSH, CHENEY AND CABAL ALONG THE WAY WHO OWN THE MAJOR CORPORATIONS LIKE HALLIBURTON AND OTHERS
AND HAD ALREADY DE-REGULATED, AHEM “NO WATCHDOG REGULATOR TO MONITOR THESE WALL STREET CROOKS” THE WALL STREET BANKERS IN CHARGE OF GIVING MORTGAGES TO ANYONE WHO COULD SIGN THEIR NAME “X” TO A PAPER, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT THEY COULD AFFORD A HOUSE OR A BALLOON PAYMENT,
AND
THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT LIVES — PEOPLE DYING
IN A LIE FOR A WAR.
THE REPUBLICANS / OR SHOULD I SAY ‘CONS’ ARE RESPONSIBLE.
SO THE NEXT TIME YOU TRY TO DISTRACT AND DIVERT ATTENTION FROM THE ENTIRELY WHOLE TRUTH,
REMEMBER TO INCLUDE YOUR OWN MESS.
WE ARE VERY PROUDLY FOR OVERTHROWING THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
AS WE HAVE VOTED REPUBLICAN GOING ALL THE WAY BACK TO LINCOLN IN THE 1800S – MY FAMILY —
AND WE HAVE ALL LEFT THE PARTY IN FEBRUARY OF
2003 — AT THE START OF THE IRAQ WAR BECAUSE
YOUR PARTY, THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS A CABAL
OF CRIMINALS THAT HAVE HIJACKED THE PARTY
AND WE WILL WORK TO SEE ITS DEMISE TIRELESSLY
AS WE HAVE BEEN –
MAY THE CRIMINALS GO TO THE HAGUE AND THE
KEY THROWN IN THE BOSTON HARBOR.
FOR THE REVOLUTION AND NOW LIFE-LONG MEMBERS
OF THE PROGRESSIVE WING OF THE TRUTHTELLING
PROGRESSIVE PARTY — WHICH AINT REPUBLICAN.
OBAMA – BIDEN 08
P.S….. WE WANT THE PARTY OF LINCOLN BACK AND UNTIL THE CRIMINALS PAY THE PRICE,
WE WILL WORK FOR REPUBLICANS TO LEAVE THE PARTY IN OVER TO OVERTHROW THE THUGS NOW RUNNING IT.

awww..

Is it just me or is it really ironic that Obama Biden is almost like Osama Bin Laden put together?