Biden: McCain Attacking Obama, Obama Attacking Issues
ABC News’ Matthew Jaffe Reports: As Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama prepares to unveil his economic rescue plan for the middle class later Monday, his running mate Joe Biden said that Obama wants to attack the nation’s faltering economy, but their Republican opponent John McCain only wants to attack Obama personally.
“Barack is going to make a major speech on economic policy, gonna further outline what he’s going to do and how he’s going to deal with it,” Biden said at American Legion Post No. 7 in Rochester, NH. “And, but as you look at the, at least the excerpts released so far, it looks like John McCain’s entire speech is gonna be attack, attack, attack, attack. Now look, by contrast, it seems it couldn’t be clearer to me. It couldn’t be clearer to me what’s going on here. John McCain wants to attack Barack Obama and Barack Obama wants to attack the problems that face America today.”
Biden added he’s not worried that McCain’s attacks will influence the Granite State, but cautioned that the GOP ticket’s use of “false charges” and “baseless accusations” is an attempt to distract voters nationwide.
“If there’s any political audience in America that’s not likely to be distracted by this tactic, it’s the people here in the state of New Hampshire,” the Delaware lawmaker said. “Probably the most sophisticated group – I mean this sincerely – on both sides of the aisle. The most sophisticated group of political observers in the country. And so I doubt whether the attacks they’re going to distract you very much, but around the country they’re hoping to be able to do it.”
“But here’s the bottom line: these attacks don’t hurt Barack Obama, these attacks don’t hurt me," he continued. "Every single false charge, every single baseless accusation that comes forward is an attempt to get you to focus on something other than what’s going on in your family, other than something’s going what’s in your neighborhood, in your state. Beyond the attacks, and I mean this literally, beyond the attacks, what is John McCain really offering?”
Noting that he was in a state that McCain called his "second home", the site of the Republican’s resurgent run to the presidential nomination, Biden told voters that only Obama is capable of instilling the necessary confidence among international leaders to steer the country past this economic crisis.
“There’s a need for the international community in this global economy to come up with a common approach how to deal with this economic crisis. It’s not just talk, it’s a reality. You see the markets are moving again today, they’re doing better, they’re bouncing back a little bit. Why? Because of international cooperation with the banks in England are doing and what we’re doing. So folks, look, you need international leadership and it can only come from one place. The president of the United States of America. And it can only come quite frankly, in my view, obviously from Barack Obama.”
Re-hashing a line he first debuted back on his introduction as Obama’s running mate August 23 in Springfield, Ill., Biden warned that McCain might be "a great soldier", but that does not equip him to deal with the economic downturn.
“People assume because he had been a great soldier that he had certain hands, that John, in a moment of crisis, would know what to do,” Biden said. “Well, ladies and gentlemen, John’s hands have been anything but certain in the last year. They’ve been uncertain. And the McCain administration would be uncertain, clinging to the past, lurching from one bad idea to another.”
However, what the alternative would be to a McCain administration is another matter…
“In an Obiden – in an Obama-Biden administration,” said Biden, stumbling over his words.
“We know, we know…,” he tried to continue, before acknowledging his mis-step as the crowd laughed.
“It’s hard to get used to,” he then said with a chuckle. “I got it. We’re used to it, I got it. We got this thing the right way.”
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These attacks are hurting McCain within his own party. The polls show they are backfiring completely.
The founder of the conservative Blog, RedState, could not even bring himself to vote for McCain and wrote in Gov. Bobby Jindal, Governor of Louisiana.
Posted by: Paige | October 13, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm
Mccain your done!
Posted by: angie | October 13, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm
MOSCOW, Oct 13 (Reuters) – Russia test-fired two ballistic missiles and bombed a dummy town at the weekend, but analysts said the show of military preparedness was for domestic consumption and not a Kremlin warning shot to the West.
The exercises — some overseen by President Dmitry Medvedev and all given extensive coverage on national television — followed weeks of angry rhetoric between Russia and the United States over the August war in Georgia.
On Saturday, Medvedev watched the successful launch of a Sineva intercontinental missile from a submarine in the Arctic Barents Sea. It hit a virtual target near the Equator in the Pacific Ocean, the first flight at this range.
The next day, Medvedev inspected the Plesetsk military cosmodrome in the north-west of Russia where he watched the test-launch of a Topol nuclear-capable missile which hit a target on Russia’s Pacific coast.
Over the course of the weekend, 12 Tu-160 and Tu-95MS strategic bombers took off for an exercise that involved launching multiple cruise missiles to pulverize a dummy town on a testing ground in the Arctic.
Czar Vlad “The Terrible” is rattling his nuclear sabers.
In 1961, Khrushchev walked all over the young, naive, inexperienced JFK during direct negotiations. Kennedy’s weakness encouraged Khrushchev to start the Cuban missile crisis, and we narrowly avoided a nuclear war.
In 2009, Putin will walk all over the young, naive, inexperienced President Obama during direct negotiations. What worldwide crisis will Obama’s weakness encourage Putin to start??
Posted by: Ich Bin Ein Beginner | October 13, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm
Good glad it is blowing up in their faces ,P{alin is in on this too.She is a witch and will do anything to get this place in Government which she is not fitted for…..
Posted by: indp voter | October 13, 2008, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm
That’s McCain’s problem. The McCain camp has no strategy. The week before last there was no strategy. Last week strategy was to attack Obama’s association. The week is to plan a “comeback”.
The McCain camps problem is they have no message. They’re un-organized, They have no ground game…it’s horrible.
Posted by: Vanessa | October 13, 2008, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm
Lots of republicans were hitting McCain. Backing off was his only option.
But the faithful gop rabble are going to be pissed. lol. They believe this rubbish, McCain knows it’s only theater.
Posted by: ed | October 13, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
I DONT CARE HOW MUCH MCCAIN WANTS TO SHIFT.. HOWEVER, PALIN AND THE REPUBLICANS OUGHT TO CONTINUE CALLING OBAMA OUT FOR WHO HE IS..HIS ASSOCIATES.. ACORN .
MCCAINS SUPPORTERS ARE FRUSTRATED BECAUSE 90% OF THE MEDIA, IT TURNS OUT, ARE NEO-COMMUNIST LIBERALS..
HIS MESSAGE IS NOT GETTING OUT.
FINNALY, HIS SUPPORTERS GET TO VENT THEIR ANGER,AT RALLIES.
IF MCCAIN WANTS TO RUN AGAINST LBJ ANDRONALD REAGAN, THATS HIS CHOICE
THE POLITICS OF THE 21ST CENTURY IS NOT A NOBLE ENTERPRISE.
IF HE’S TOO NOBLE TO DO WHAT HILLARY DID TO OVERCOME OBAMA AND THE MEDIA–TIME TO QUIT AND SPARE HIS SUPPORTERS THE AGGRAVATION.
AMERICANS LOVE WINNERS AND DEROGATE LOSERS.
KERRY RAN A GOOD CAMPAIGN , WAS 10 POINTS AHEAD IN THE END BUT ENDED UP LOSING..
KERRY IS BUT A CARICATIURE AND A SUBDUED MENTION IN HISTORY.. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ” ANOBLE LOSER”
MCCAIN, THE WORLD IS NOTHING LIKE YOUR COZY MANSIONS.. NOBODY CARES HOW NOBLE YOU ARE, IF YOU LOSE FOR AMERICANS..
OBAMA IS CORRUPT. TREAT HIM AS SUCH
AND DONT EVER DISRESPECT YOUR SUPPORTERS AGAIN, SIR..
Posted by: TJ, THE CLINTONITE | October 13, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
McCain’s problem is also comments like this:
“John McCain, who admitted on Sunday that “the economy has hurt us a little bit in the last week or two”
Posted by: Paige | October 13, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
Lets look at the records!McCain has made change when he could co sponsored a bill to reel in fannie and freddie.Obama empty career never has done anything to change anything.All his promises nada nothing oh wait I am sorry he helped ACORN change we dont need
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 13, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
Obama’s Kenya campaign
http://www.washtimes.com/news/2008/oct/12/obamas-kenya-ghosts/
How will Obama spin this one.
Posted by: Jill | October 13, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
McCain’s problem is also comments like this:
“John McCain, who admitted on Sunday that “the economy has hurt us a little bit in the last week or two”
Posted by: Paige | Oct 13, 2008 12:38:21 PM
It has because they are the incumbent party when the economy sours so does peoples taste on the party
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 13, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
These attacks are hurting McCain within his own party. The polls show they are backfiring completely.
WRITTEN BY PAIGE _______________________________
paige,
YOU ARE MISREADING THE POLLS COMPLETELY
MCCAIN IS NOT BACKFIRING.. THE FIRST SHIFT CAME AFTER OBAMA ASSOCIATIONS WERE ATTACKED.
I AM A MCCAIN SUPPORTER BUT HE IS AN INCONSISTENT MAN IN THIS ELECTION..
REPUBLICANS OUGHT OT KEEP THAT PRESSURE GOING.. QUESTION OBAMA FOR ONE.
ANYTIME MCCCAIN IS ATTACKED BY PUNDITS, HE BACKS OFF.
PUNDITS WANT MCCAIN DISARMED… THEY ARE ALL PRO-OBAMA.
Posted by: TJ, THE CLINTONITE | October 13, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
Higher cost to corporations = higher cost to consumers simple rasie taxes on the corporations they get past on to you and me
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 13, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
TJ – I don’t have to send you far. See Gary Langer’s BLOG, The Numbers, right here on ABC.COM .
Posted by: Paige | October 13, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
Women of America Unite!
Unite against the sexist media and Barack Hussein’s Mugging of Vice President, Sarah Palin!
Women must unite against the liberal media vicious, sexist, cruel, demeaning, contemptuous UN-AMERICAN, unfair, unprofessional, unrelenting and blatantly biased treatment against Vice President Sarah Palin and acting blatantly in favor of Barack Hussein Obama during this unprecedented historic quest for the presidency!
Barack Hussein Obama claims a mightier throne, one forged in liberal ideals of justice and equality and hope, BUT he has benefited mightily from sexism in this campaign, and has remained silent. Obama supporters seem very happy with the sexist way pundits and some news organizations treat any action or statement by Sarah Palin, and many believe that most of the “venom” in the campaign is coming from supporters of Obama.
Women of America Unite in this defining moment in American history. To ensure we can grow up from the male dominated government that has caused many of the problems our country is facing; to a country where men and women are equal partners in governance.
Women of America Unite!
Unite against the sexist media and Barack Hussein’s Mugging of Vice President, Sarah Palin!
VOTE for McCain/Palin
Posted by: Manolete | October 13, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
McChicken and his cynical followers…….tsk, tsk. If they only had a brain.
Did you see McCain in a photo with the Acorn leadership on Politico? This is what was said…
Bertha Lewis, Acorn’s chief organizer, said in a statement that came with the photo, “It has deeply saddened us to see Senator McCain abandon his historic support for ACORN and our efforts to support the goals of low-income Americans.”
”We are sure that the extremists he is trying to get into a froth will be even more excited to learn that John McCain stood shoulder to shoulder with ACORN, at an ACORN co-sponsored event, to promote immigration reform,” she said.
To be honest, McCain is so far behind B Rock, we’re going to need a high powered telescope to find him after he get’s SCHLACKED in the GE.
Hypocrits always LOSE. Always.
POTUS OBAMA – IT’S ONLY A MATTER OF TIME
Posted by: Nat Turner | October 13, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
Sorry but Obama IS the issue… his socialist, big government, tax, spend and regulate stance on everything IS the issue… and the fact that he pals around with terrorists and race bating preachers IS the issue… meanwhile Obama runs adds making fun of the fact that McCain can’t use a computer… anybody see a problem here???
http://www.UpYoursObama.com/
Posted by: Up Yours Obama | October 13, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
Obama’s 95% Illusion!!
One of Barack Obama’s most potent campaign claims is that he’ll cut taxes for no less than 95% of “working families.” He’s even promising to cut taxes enough that the government’s tax share of GDP will be no more than 18.2% — which is lower than it is today.
APIt’s a clever pitch, because it lets him pose as a middle-class tax cutter while disguising that he’s also proposing one of the largest tax increases ever on the other 5%. But how does he conjure this miracle, especially since more than a third of all Americans already pay no income taxes at all? There are several sleights of hand, but the most creative is to redefine the meaning of “tax cut.”
For the Obama Democrats, a tax cut is no longer letting you keep more of what you earn. In their lexicon, a tax cut includes tens of billions of dollars in government handouts that are disguised by the phrase “tax credit.” Mr. Obama is proposing to create or expand no fewer than seven such credits for individuals:
- A $500 tax credit ($1,000 a couple) to “make work pay” that phases out at income of $75,000 for individuals and $150,000 per couple.
- A $4,000 tax credit for college tuition.
- A 10% mortgage interest tax credit (on top of the existing mortgage interest deduction and other housing subsidies).
- A “savings” tax credit of 50% up to $1,000.
- An expansion of the earned-income tax credit that would allow single workers to receive as much as $555 a year, up from $175 now, and give these workers up to $1,110 if they are paying child support.
- A child care credit of 50% up to $6,000 of expenses a year.
- A “clean car” tax credit of up to $7,000 on the purchase of certain vehicles.
Here’s the political catch. All but the clean car credit would be “refundable,” which is Washington-speak for the fact that you can receive these checks even if you have no income-tax liability. In other words, they are an income transfer — a federal check — from taxpayers to nontaxpayers. Once upon a time we called this “welfare,” or in George McGovern’s 1972 campaign a “Demogrant.” Mr. Obama’s genius is to call it a tax cut.
The Tax Foundation estimates that under the Obama plan 63 million Americans, or 44% of all tax filers, would have no income tax liability and most of those would get a check from the IRS each year. The Heritage Foundation’s Center for Data Analysis estimates that by 2011, under the Obama plan, an additional 10 million filers would pay zero taxes while cashing checks from the IRS.
The total annual expenditures on refundable “tax credits” would rise over the next 10 years by $647 billion to $1.054 trillion, according to the Tax Policy Center. This means that the tax-credit welfare state would soon cost four times actual cash welfare. By redefining such income payments as “tax credits,” the Obama campaign also redefines them away as a tax share of GDP. Presto, the federal tax burden looks much smaller than it really is.
The political left defends “refundability” on grounds that these payments help to offset the payroll tax. And that was at least plausible when the only major refundable credit was the earned-income tax credit. Taken together, however, these tax credit payments would exceed payroll levies for most low-income workers.
It is also true that John McCain proposes a refundable tax credit — his $5,000 to help individuals buy health insurance. We’ve written before that we prefer a tax deduction for individual health care, rather than a credit. But the big difference with Mr. Obama is that Mr. McCain’s proposal replaces the tax subsidy for employer-sponsored health insurance that individuals don’t now receive if they buy on their own. It merely changes the nature of the tax subsidy; it doesn’t create a new one.
There’s another catch: Because Mr. Obama’s tax credits are phased out as incomes rise, they impose a huge “marginal” tax rate increase on low-income workers. The marginal tax rate refers to the rate on the next dollar of income earned. As the nearby chart illustrates, the marginal rate for millions of low- and middle-income workers would spike as they earn more income.
Some families with an income of $40,000 could lose up to 40 cents in vanishing credits for every additional dollar earned from working overtime or taking a new job. As public policy, this is contradictory. The tax credits are sold in the name of “making work pay,” but in practice they can be a disincentive to working harder, especially if you’re a lower-income couple getting raises of $1,000 or $2,000 a year. One mystery — among many — of the McCain campaign is why it has allowed Mr. Obama’s 95% illusion to go unanswered
Posted by: Independent | October 13, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
Sign this petition if you think McCain should stop talking about Obama and William Ayers…and start talking about the economy instead:
http://www.McCainPetition.com
Gregg
Posted by: Gregg | October 13, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
Attacks aren’t working. McCain needs to show he understands the issues, he hasn’t done that. Obama has.
Posted by: Mulligan McCain | October 13, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
West Virginia is moving towards Obama. Now we’ve seen it all.
Posted by: Economic Think Tank | October 13, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
tj
it’s not that the media is “neocon liberals”
it’s that the media is Americans who do not want to see lies be propagated as news.
or another 8 years of being worked so you and others can propagate such lies
the same lies that got us here.
Americans…including those Americans who might work for the media…
are taking their country back from the far right nut jobs and the lies they propagate, their war on facts and the mischief and bologne they have played at the cost of our kids futures.
Posted by: dl | October 13, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
Politico has the photo of McCain at the ACORN event that goes with this statement:
Bertha Lewis, Acorn’s chief organizer, said in a statement that came with the photo, “It has deeply saddened us to see Senator McCain abandon his historic support for ACORN and our efforts to support the goals of low-income Americans.”
”We are sure that the extremists he is trying to get into a froth will be even more excited to learn that John McCain stood shoulder to shoulder with ACORN, at an ACORN co-sponsored event, to promote immigration reform,” she said.
Posted by: Paige | October 13, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
Ich Bin Ein Beginner…tell the rest of that story. How JFK told Russia after the blockade was put in place that no ships would be allow to go to Cuba. JFK, the young president, call Russia bluff and made them turn their ships around and remove missiles from Cuba.
Posted by: Nam vet | October 13, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
and don’t be fooled the numbers don’t add up
so read his lips
when Mccain says he won’t raise taxes…
he can’t.
so he will raise them evenly …keeping consistent with the 40 year republican tradition that is now recorded of increasing the middle class tax burden at twice the rate as the top 5% of wealthy like himself and his wife.
Posted by: dl | October 13, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
Top 2 reasons the tide as turned against the Republicans and John McCain:
1) Tax cuts in a time of war and great spending hasn’t help stimulate the economy.
2) Deregulation of the financial services market to the point of absurdity.
All the rest is hot air.
Posted by: Econ 101 | October 13, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
Key People-Sen. Joe Biden (D-DE
Deputy Political Director Muthoni Wambu
Former AFL-CIO PAC Coordinator. In 2000 Wambu joined with Vera Baker to form Baker Wambu & Associates, a political fund-raising firm. Worked for the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee during the 2000 and 1998 cycles. Bachelor’s degree in journalism from Howard University, 1997. From New York City.
Questions for Joe Biden -does this have anything to do with Obama choosing your 9,000 votes over Clinton’s 18 million? Has your Deputy Political Director heard from her former business partner recently?
Posted by: geevill | October 13, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
Extremists drew us into a war and have brought our economy to the brink of financial disaster. We fell for the bait.
We need to take back our country from this disastrous Bush/Neocon foreign policy, which is now bleeding into our economy.
McCain’s foreign policy is very closely aligned with Bush and company.
Posted by: off course | October 13, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
Who Care’s About Obama’a Associates??
William Ayers – An admitted Terroist and bomber, Who hates this country and capatilisim.
Tony Rezko- A Slum Lord- He was convicted on 16 of 24 counts involving mail fraud, wire fraud, money laundering and aiding and abetting bribery
Rev. Wright- Someone who hates Whites, this country and is Obama’s Mentor for 20 years.
Rashid Khalidi: Mr. Khalidi is a Palestinian scholar and author on Middle Eastern affairs who has called Israel a racist state bent on creating “an apartheid system
ACORN – The Community Assoc. that is cheating the Voting Process. Currently under FBI Investigation.
I CARE !!! My Mom use to tell me, ” Tell me who you hang around with and I will tell you who you are”.
McCain is not the Best Candidate but he is the better choice.
Posted by: JC | October 13, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
The right wingers are busy digging deep down into their underpants and trying to smear Obama with their brains. I LOVE it!
Posted by: Bill in NC | October 13, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
THIS IS THE ANSWER TO Angie” TO THE QUESTION “What worldwide crisis will Obama’s weakness encourage Putin to start?”. PUTIN WILL BE VERY CAREFUL NOT TO START A FIGHT WITH A BLACK MAN. HE WILL GET A BLACK EYE DOING THAT.
GO FIGURE Angie.
Posted by: Morris S. | October 13, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
If Obama is elected to president after all that is known about his backgound, then the country needs to be punished, and it will be. One thing that you can count on is that when it gets bad enough, the people will return to their roots. We have enough strenght to overcome even the worst president for a matter of four years. Carter proved that.
Posted by: Willard S. Norton | October 13, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
McCain is attacking the issues of our day. Barack Obama is attacking George W. Bush.
Posted by: Obamacrat for McCain | October 13, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
Willard, it ain’t gonna be worse than 8 years of Bush.
Posted by: wow? | October 13, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
Yet we Blame Bush & The Republicans about the Economy. Investigate Barnie Frank and Chris Dodd.
This came from our Congresional Records..
John McCain Warned About Fannie MaeSeptember 16, 2008 · Filed under Uncategorized
Senator John McCain, R, Arizona: Mr. President, this week Fannie Mae’s regulator reported that the company’s quarterly reports of profit growth over the past few years were “illusions deliberately and systematically created” by the company’s senior management, which resulted in a $10.6 billion accounting scandal.
The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight’s report goes on to say that Fannie Mae employees deliberately and intentionally manipulated financial reports to hit earnings targets in order to trigger bonuses for senior executives. In the case of Franklin Raines, Fannie Mae’s former chief executive officer, OFHEO’s report shows that over half of Mr. Raines’ compensation for the 6 years through 2003 was directly tied to meeting earnings targets. The report of financial misconduct at Fannie Mae echoes the deeply troubling $5 billion profit restatement at Freddie Mac.
The OFHEO report also states that Fannie Mae used its political power to lobby Congress in an effort to interfere with the regulator’s examination of the company’s accounting problems. This report comes some weeks after Freddie Mac paid a record $3.8 million fine in a settlement with the Federal Election Commission and restated lobbying disclosure reports from 2004 to 2005. These are entities that have demonstrated over and over again that they are deeply in need of reform.
For years I have been concerned about the regulatory structure that governs Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac–known as Government-sponsored entities or GSEs–and the sheer magnitude of these companies and the role they play in the housing market. OFHEO’s report this week does nothing to ease these concerns. In fact, the report does quite the contrary. OFHEO’s report solidifies my view that the GSEs need to be reformed without delay.
I join as a cosponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole.
I urge my colleagues to support swift action on this GSE reform legislation.
Quick Info
S. 190 [109th]: Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005
Last Action: Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs. Ordered to be reported with an amendment in the nature of a substitute favorably.
Status: Dead
Killed by the Democrats who had HUGE financial reasons to kill it (and it will cost taxpayers BILLIONS).
Source: Congressional Record, May 25, 2006
Posted by: JC | October 13, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
Obamacrat, He isn’t attacking Bush. He’s attacking Bush’s policies, which McCain has supported 90% of the time.
Posted by: hmm | October 13, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
Lets look at the records reddog0216 !
http://obama.senate.gov/press/070425-obama_durbin_in/
You are an idiot. You really shouldn’t even be posting because you don’t even know what the hell you are saying.
Posted by: Mark | October 13, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
Lets look at the records reddog0216 !
http://obama.senate.gov/press/070425-obama_durbin_in/
You are an idiot. You really shouldn’t even be posting because you don’t even know what the hell you are saying.
Posted by: Mark | Oct 13, 2008 1:29:13 PM
And where did it go with his democratic buddies running congress???
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 13, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
West Virginia is moving towards Obama. Now we’ve seen it all.
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Being from West Virginia, if the state goes to Obama, the devl better a winter coat.
I’d love to see it, but it’s hard for me to believe it will happen. The predjudices here are pretty storng and the educational systems pretty weak.
To me, that means we have a lot of folks that can be easily manipulated by the “secret Obama” crap.
On the other hand, our state economy is tanked. And McCain has offered nothing but a continuation of tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans.
Not that many rich folks in WV.
Posted by: Cold day in .....? | October 13, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
Sen. Barack Obama [D-IL]hide cosponsors
Cosponsors [as of 2007-01-08]
Sen. Richard Durbin [D-IL]
Sen. Robert Menéndez [D-NJ]
Cosponsorship information sometimes is out of date. Why?
Bill Text: Summary | Full Text
Status: Introduced Feb 14, 2006
Reported by Committee -
Voted on in Senate -
Voted on in House -
Signed by President -
This bill never became law. This bill was proposed in a previous session of Congress. Sessions of Congress last two years, and at the end of each session all proposed bills and resolutions that haven’t passed are cleared from the books.
Last Action: Feb 14, 2006: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs.
Other Titles: — Stopping Transactions which Operate to Promote Fraud, Risk, and Underdevelopment Act
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 13, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
Willard S. Norton: another dumbass republican with his head buried in the sand. The worst president???? the worst president in this country’s history will be gone on Jan 20, 2009!!! Your ignorance is staggering.
Posted by: Mark | October 13, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
Mark,
His own buddies turned it down!!! barney frank chris dodd I guess they were busy getting money from fannie and freddie well we know what barney frank was getting from one of the exexcutives over there!
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 13, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
Cold day in …..?, The polls are moving in WV. They aren’t there yet. This economy stuff has people shifting their paradigms. We’ll see.
Posted by: hmm | October 13, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
I think self-preservation is even stronger than prejudice. So, even in states that you’d think Obama doesn’t have a chance, you are seeing shifts. It just proves that a frank discussion of issues can move people. The economy has affected anyone who has a 401k, a health issue, and a job that isn’t totally secure.
Posted by: Issues Not Smears | October 13, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
Obama Tells Tax-Burdened Plumber the Plan is to ‘Spread the Wealth Around’…
Hillary says economic crisis breaks her heart…
SOCIALISM!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Poopie | October 13, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
angie,
all the russian bravado now is because of the present administration’s approcah to foriegn affairs (the Bush doctrine included).. continuation of that will result in more of that…
Posted by: truthhurts | October 13, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
Gas is down… stocks are up… looks like a bad day for Obama-bots…
http://www.UpYoursObama.com/
Posted by: Up Yours Obama | October 13, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
Poopie, This isn’t 1950s, the socialism scare tactics don’t work. We just socialized the banking industry under a Republican President.
Wipe your shoe clean and try again.
Posted by: wow? | October 13, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
anyone know whos said this??
I join as a cosponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole.
I urge my colleagues to support swift action on this GSE reform legislation.
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 13, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
Up Yours, Have you seen the polls? Obama is up by 10 in Gallup. The swing state polls are even worse. I’d have to say it is a good day for Americans, even the ones who support Obama.
Posted by: polls | October 13, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
reddog, the surge isn’t working with respect to the economy. all other stactic is silly.
Posted by: Wheels on the Bus | October 13, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
reddog, the surge isn’t working with respect to the economy. all other stactic is silly.
Posted by: Wheels on the Bus | Oct 13, 2008 1:57:00 PM
That is peoples ignorance not listening blinders by someone who speaks well with a tele prompter it okay to look at the facts for yourself
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 13, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
reddog, Obama didn’t use a teleprompter at the debates. I don’t even think he had notes at the town hall?
Posted by: Wheels on the Bus | October 13, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
Okay my point is if you look at the facts You cant believe what obama says equals what he has done
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 13, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
Did Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton “attacked” Barack Obama as unfit, unqualified and unprepared to be president, during the primary election season?? Remember Louis Farrakhan’s endorsment of Barack Obama, and calling the “Messiah?” Why, and who is Louis Farrakhan?
Posted by: Reality_Check | October 13, 2008, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm
Obama Tells Tax-Burdened Plumber the Plan is to ‘Spread the Wealth Around’…
Hillary says economic crisis breaks her heart…
SOCIALISM!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: WOW? | October 13, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
My fellow Americans…it’s the 11th hr before the election and the anger and fear is starting to rise with the boiling tensions of McPalin’s supporters. And what are we hearing?
Well…we are ‘not’ hearing a clear case for why McPalin is better, nor clear plans on how McPalin would handle pressing issues. We are hearing, however, that people are scared of Obama. Scared of what exactly?
They say Obama’s an Arab, a terrorist, a Marxist, a liberal who associates with terrorists. They yell kill him at rallies and call him Osama. Who are these people? Why do they choose to heed the toxic messages coming from the McPalin spin machine?
I never voted for Bush, but was sensible enough to understand that a majority of the country voted for him, thus, he must have appealed to them for some odd reason. While I had concrete policy disagreements with Bush, I never once heard him berated with the same tenor or acidic reaction that Obama triggers.
I do believe that if we are to move forward as a nation, the xenophobic racist elements of our electorate need to be ‘quarantined and reprogrammed’. The USA is a beautiful nation of diversity but a person of color at the helm terrifies so of us…even today.
Meanwhile, McPalin has known ties to former klansmen, successionist groups and people convicted of savings and loans fraud. But guess what, McPalinites have been so bamboozled, they embrace these facts as distorted testaments of patriotism. They represent the 19th century mindset in a 21st century world.
McPalin supporters have shown themselves to be far from sensible, logical and open. This is what scares me. We will truly move forward when these views change.
Posted by: Reed Ehr | October 13, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
Posted by: Nam vet | Oct 13, 2008 1:02:29 PM
Hey, Fake Nam Vet, JFK’s willingness to meet Khrushchev without pre-conditions or a real plan in 1961 opened the door for the near destruction of the planet. The Cuban Missile Crisis was avoidable. That’s my point Lefty.
Obama will invite the same Risks with his willingness to meet with Thugs–without any clear purpose or conditions. Peace through strength. Diplomacy is one means to peace, not an end unto itself.
Now go back to smoking dope and blogging on DailyKos.
Posted by: Ich Bin Ein Beginner | October 13, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
WOW?, Changing your name doesn’t change your lame message. It’s still Poopie.
Posted by: wow? | October 13, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm
Joe Biden is absolutely right.
0bama attacks issues, making repeatedly boneheaded mistakes, according to His Nothingness himself.
Unfortunately, McCain has to point out these boneheaded mistakes, even though you blind supporters still do not see a light.
Posted by: d0 | October 13, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
reddog, Obama didn’t use a teleprompter at the debates. I don’t even think he had notes at the town hall?
Posted by: Wheels on the Bus | Oct 13, 2008 2:00:26 PM
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Even George W. Bush could win a debate or two over John Kerry; do you really think Zero-bama is so stupid, so zero that he still has always to use a telepromter to air any wind, after two and half years doing Zero things on his day job in the Senate?
Posted by: d0 | October 13, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
Joe Biden is an Idiot who earned less than 1% of the vote in the Iowa caucus.
Even he had to admit Obama should have chosen Hillary.
Posted by: I'm not only a Hair Club client, I'm also the President Pro-Tempore | October 13, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
It is the economy stupid! Without a solid economic base, the United States of America is a vulnerable target from various religious fanatics such as Al Queda, as well as Russia, some tin-horn dictator from Venezuela, let alone China. Mr. McCain relies upon advice from Phil Gram who stated “We have become a nation of whiners” in an interview with the Washington Times. Phil Gram’s wife was on the Board of Directors of Enron, as well as their Audit Committee. They have nothing to whine about. I guess that Gram and McCain do not see a problem. When people lose their jobs, pensions and other retirement funds, as well as their homes, those “whiners” should just move into one of their other houses. It is time for a change!
Posted by: Larry Linn | October 13, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
“Tell me who you hang out with and I will tell you who you are” says a poster here. He then goes on to cite the conventional list we are all so tired of hearing about (Ayers, Wright, Rezco, et. al.). Americans are beginning to shift towards Obama because he gets his advise from the best and brightest economists we have. Today, Paul Krugman, an Obama supporter just won the Nobel prize in economics. I am confident, as a Colorado small business owner, and independent, that Obama has everything it takes to lead our country back to prosperity.
Posted by: BOsupporter | October 13, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
Obama is the first candidate to lay out a strategic plan to the current crisis and ceratinly McCian has forgotten about that, but McBush advisors will adopt most of the Obama Plan and put a glossy coating while attacking Obama Character.
McCain, accept the fact that Obama is on track in handling issues that America faces right now when you are in a dreamy world! Amy
Posted by: Ramya | October 13, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
Joe Biden is 1/2 of a great team – Obama/Biden. They will go down in history as being pivotal to changing the direction of America in the 21st Century when they began a course of cooperation and coordination with the rest of the world instead of confrontation and bullying. They will be remembered as having cared for the largest group of people constituting American citizens – the Middle class. They will be remembered for providing affordable health care for every citizen. They will be remembered for promoting education so that there were lots of bright young people who contributed to the revolutionary ideas necessary to move this country into the future with new forms of clean energy. It will be a watershed.
The Republicans are now reaping what they have sown.
Into the future with OBAMA/BIDEN!!!
Posted by: Donna Hughes | October 13, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
Paul Krugman, an Obama supporter just won the Nobel prize in economics. It shows that McCian supporter could not reach that heights because McCain advisors are Bush advisors, lacking BRAIN – Obama’s judgement is healthy and McCain’s is totally opposite – the weakness is all over ! Amy
Posted by: Ramya | October 13, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
I agree with James Hirsen of Newsmax: It’s time for Obama to apologize for the hate speech of his Hollywood pals, and while he’s at it he might also call off his biased buds in the media.
Sandra Bernhard said that if Palin came to New York she would be “gang raped” by Bernhard’s African-American male friends and also called Cindy McCain a “Barbie doll hooker.”
Pamela Anderson said, “I can’t stand her” and “she can s**k it.”
After telling thousands of fans, “You know who can get off of my street? Sarah Palin,” Madonna led fans in the following chant: “I’m gonna kick her a** if she don’t get off of my street!” She later shouted, “This is the sound of Sarah Palin’s husband’s snowmobile when it won’t start up in the wintertime” while letting loose with loud dissonant guitar feedback.
Cybill Shepherd called Palin an “American catastrophe.”
Betty White labeled her “one crazy b***h.”
If McCain has to apologize for people in his crowds that could be Obama plants stirring the pot, then Obama also needs to apolgoze for the hate coming from his Hollywood buds.
Posted by: Shelley | October 13, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
the two-year campaign of a presidential candidate is often a good indicator of how effectively/smoothly the candidate could run the White House… Mccain ain’t doin such a good job, is he?
Posted by: malone | October 13, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
Mccain will never acknowledge that Ayers was an accepted member of society and a respected college professor by the time Obama met him…
Posted by: malone | October 13, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
McCain spends more time attacking Obama than he does explaining how his “I have a plan” will actually work. McCain favors the wealthy, and any plan he concocts will put more money in their pockets. He doesn’t plan to “give” any aid to the less-fortunate. His health care plan only sounds good at the mention of the money he tries to make sound enticing. Don’t be fooled. Analyzed, the plan he proposes fails miserably. Listen to the experts – they state that Obama has a better health plan. McCain is on a downward spiral, finally, and hopefully he won’t be able to lie his way back to the top. More voters are becoming aware of “that one” and appreciating the unique qualities that Obama will bring to the White House when he becomes POTUS. He will be facing incredible never-imagined challenges: America is broke, we are not safer, the strain and drain of our Armed Forces is appalling, and our citizens are facing home foreclosures, job losses and health care is beyond their reach. What a depressing burden this has become for those who don’t have the luxury of a sizeable bank account to tide them over. McCain dumped his first wife for one who had money, lots of money. He doesn’t understand the financial burdens facing the average American. He has more cars and houses than he can use. The Republicans guard their money ferociously. They don’t care for sharing, only for increasing their assets. They pirated our government “for the people” and replaced it with their “for the wealthy people”. Our votes are all we have left, and now is the time when “for the people” should count more than “for the party”. I continue to hope that more and more McCain diehards will dare to care about sacrifice and real change, and vote for “that one”, whose name is Barack Obama. God Bless America.
Posted by: patricia3785 | October 13, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
Nice try Shelley, but Newsmax is just another conservative mouthpiece, like FOX, or Limbaugh, or Coulter……..
Posted by: Donna Hughes | October 13, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
Since McCain went on the attack his approval rating drop 10% and gave the campaign to Obama. If McCain now thinks that stammering some rhetoric on the economy will give him a win, too late. Out of step again.
Posted by: Perspective | October 13, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
Mccain will never acknowledge that Ayers was an accepted member of society and a respected college professor by the time Obama met him…
Posted by: malone | Oct 13, 2008 3:26:40 PM
In an article published on September 11, 2001—yes, really–the “accepted member of society and a respected college professor” said the following:
”I don’t regret setting bombs,” Bill Ayers said. ”I feel we didn’t do enough.” Mr. Ayers, who spent the 1970’s as a fugitive in the Weather Underground, was sitting in the kitchen of his big turn-of-the-19th-century stone house in the Hyde Park district of Chicago. The long curly locks in his Wanted poster are shorn, though he wears earrings. He still has tattooed on his neck the rainbow-and-lightning Weathermen logo that appeared on letters taking responsibility for bombings.
This was AFTER Obama started working with Ayers on the Annenberg Challenge!
Wake up, Moron!
Posted by: Unrepentant Weathermen for Change | October 13, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
Republicans suddenly are angry and outraged ..where were they for the last eight years while the messiah of their party, George Bush used and misused the good will of our people to advance the Neocon’s agenda and enrich his friend and almost destroy our country. Where were they? …they were seating in their couch watching Fox News, feeding their jell-o brains with lies about the state of union. FOX News have been telling you the absolute truth so it’s obvious that the rest of the news networks are lying! …idiots!
Posted by: jai | October 13, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
HEY UNREPENTANT WEATHERMAN:
ever heard of white supremacist Richard Quinn? a man who sold t-shirts praising the assasination of old Abe Lincoln? a man who called David Duke a “maverick”— Well he was a political adviser to Mccain in 2000!!! Mccains latest strategy of guilt-by association not only has YOU hook-line-and sinker, but he wouldn’t be able to stand up to his own scrutiny!!!(btw, the list goes on, my friend…)
Posted by: malone | October 13, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
Obama/Biden: Inclusive, empathetic, forward-looking, innovative
McCain/Palin: Divisive, stale, unfocused,anchored in the past
Forward with Obama/Biden ’08!!
Posted by: Donna Hughes | October 13, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
Obama is clueless on the economic
crisis! Implementing his
multi-billion dollars spending plans
will be like pouring gasoline on a fire!
Wake up America!
Obama’s policies will make this seem
like the “good old days”!
Posted by: reaganfan | October 13, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
ever noticed how all signifigant stock market crashes go togeather with republican Presedents? 1873-Grant. 1929-Hoover. 1973-Nixon. 1987-Reagan. 2001-Bush. 2008-Bush again. Time for a Dem, time for Obama.
Posted by: Jude McCarney | October 13, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
Reaganfan,
Apparently the Republicans were clueless about where their mantra of deregulation would lead.
This country could have had a lot of good health care and education assistance and job training and other supportive services for Americans for what the Republicans have forced us to pour down a rat hole over an unnecessary war, and now this financial crisis! Isn’t this just the icing on the cake!
Your priorities suck!
Posted by: Donna Hughes | October 13, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
Manolete – I would love to vote for a woman but Sarah Palin is not the right woman.
She has brought the ridicule and disdain upon herself by being unable to speak an articulate, thoughtful sentence that hasn’t been written for her. Also by showing no more than a superficial understanding of the issues.
No matter what you think, Katie Couric and Charles Gibson asked legitimate questions that someone wanting to be a heartbeat away from the presidency should’ve been able to answer. All she proved at the debate was that she could spew the talking points she’d memorized.
She is an appealing person and perhaps a competent governor, but no way ready to be VP. Don’t make me feel obligated to vote for her because of her gender because I don’t have to and I won’t.
Posted by: Shauna | October 13, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm
Anyone looking for insight on the flaws and the solution (major overhaul) to the fix the system can find them on http://coinage.me
It goes into detail how the summary information needed to actually manage a fiat currency system is not available and therefore cannot be properly managed.
Furthermore our information system systems are not designed correctly to support such a system the data is all disparate.
The is referenced by one of Obama’s advisors and can be read at the Obama link below.
http://tinyurl.com/52bczy
Posted by: Richard Thomas | October 14, 2008, 1:50 am 1:50 am
You may not like John McCain or the Republicans in Congress very much, but are you really willing to give Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and Barack Obama (the most liberal senator!!!) a blank check for the next two years? That’s the situation we’ll have if Barack Obama gets into office and it’s why independent Americans who fear having the country radically shifted to the left would be wise to vote for John McCain.
Posted by: Don | October 14, 2008, 6:36 am 6:36 am
I disagree that Sen. McCain is the culprit of the performance of the Bush Administration. He is not part of the Cabinet. In fact when Vice-Presidency was offered by Bush to McCain the latter refused on the ground of policy differences.
The first who should be blamed is the President himself, next is the Vice-President, then the Cabinet.
Why should Sen. Obama put heavily the blame to a single senator, from among the 99 other members, about the administration of a President?
Posted by: Renato Bermejo | October 14, 2008, 10:03 am 10:03 am
I disagree that Sen. McCain is the culprit of the performance of the Bush Administration. He is not part of the Cabinet. In fact when Vice-Presidency was offered by Bush to McCain the latter refused on the ground of policy differences.
The first who should be blamed is the President himself, next is the Vice-President, then the Cabinet.
Why should Sen. Obama put heavily the blame to a single senator, from among the 99 other members, about the administration of a President?
Posted by: Renato Bermejo | October 14, 2008, 10:03 am 10:03 am
Wright 101
Obama funded extremist Afrocentrists who shared Rev. Wright’s anti-Americanism
By Stanley Kurtz
It looks like Jeremiah Wright was just the tip of the iceberg. Not only did Barack Obama savor Wright’s sermons, Obama gave legitimacy — and a whole lot of money — to education programs built around the same extremist anti-American ideology preached by Reverend Wright. And guess what? Bill Ayers is still palling around with the same bitterly anti-American Afrocentric ideologues that he and Obama were promoting a decade ago. All this is revealed by a bit of digging, combined with a careful study of documents from the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, the education foundation Obama and Ayers jointly led in the late 1990s.
John McCain, take note. Obama’s tie to Wright is no longer a purely personal question (if it ever was one) about one man’s choice of his pastor. The fact that Obama funded extremist Afrocentrists who shared Wright’s anti-Americanism means that this is now a matter of public policy, and therefore an entirely legitimate issue in this campaign.
African Village
In the winter of 1996, the Coalition for Improved Education in [Chicago’s] South Shore (CIESS) announced that it had received a $200,000 grant from the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. That made CIESS an “external partner,” i.e. a community organization linked to a network of schools within the Chicago public system. This network, named the “South Shore African Village Collaborative” was thoroughly “Afrocentric” in orientation. CIESS’s job was to use a combination of teacher-training, curriculum advice, and community involvement to improve academic performance in the schools it worked with. CIESS would continue to receive large Annenberg grants throughout the 1990s.
The South Shore African Village Collaborative (SSAVC) was very much a part of the Afrocentric “rites of passage movement,” a fringe education crusade of the 1990s. SSAVC schools featured “African-Centered” curricula built around “rites of passage” ceremonies inspired by the puberty rites found in many African societies. In and of themselves, these ceremonies were harmless. Yet the philosophy that accompanied them was not. On the contrary, it was a carbon-copy of Jeremiah Wright’s worldview.
Rites of Passage
To learn what the rites of passage movement was all about, we can turn to a sympathetic 1992 study published in the Journal of Negro Education by Nsenga Warfield-Coppock. In that article, Warfield-Coppock bemoans the fact that public education in the United States is shaped by “capitalism, competitiveness, racism, sexism and oppression.” According to Warfield-Coppock, these American values “have confused African American people and oriented them toward American definitions of achievement and success and away from traditional African values.” American socialization has “proven to be dysfuntional and genocidal to the African American community,” Warfield-Coppock tells us. The answer is the adolescent rites of passage movement, designed “to provide African American youth with the cultural information and values they would need to counter the potentially detrimental effects of a Eurocentrically oriented society.”
The adolescent rites of passage movement that flowered in the 1990s grew out of the “cultural nationalist” or “Pan-African” thinking popular in radical black circles of the 1960s and 1970s. The attempt to create a virtually separate and intensely anti-American black social world began to take hold in the mid-1980s in small private schools, which carefully guarded the contents of their controversial curricula. Gradually, through external partners like CIESS, the movement spread to a few public schools. Supporters view these programs as “a social and cultural ‘inoculation’ process that facilitates healthy, African-centered development among African American youth and protects them against the ravages of a racist, sexist, capitalist, and oppressive society.”
We know that SSAVC was part of this movement, not only because their Annenberg proposals were filled with Afrocentric themes and references to “rites of passage,” but also because SSAVC’s faculty set up its African-centered curriculum in consultation with some of the most prominent leaders of the “rites of passage movement.” For example, a CIESS teacher conference sponsored a presentation on African-centered curricula by Jacob Carruthers, a particularly controversial Afrocentrist.
Jacob Carruthers
Like other leaders of the rites of passage movement, Carruthers teaches that the true birthplace of world civilization was ancient “Kemet” (Egypt), from which Kemetic philosophy supposedly spread to Africa as a whole. Carruthers and his colleagues believe that the values of Kemetic civilization are far superior to the isolating and oppressive, ancient Greek-based values of European and American civilization. Although academic Egyptologists and anthropologists strongly reject these historical claims, Carruthers dismisses critics as part of a white supremacist conspiracy to hide the truth of African superiority.
Carruthers’s key writings are collected in his book, Intellectual Warfare. Reading it is a wild, anti-American ride. In his book, we learn that Carruthers and his like-minded colleagues have formed an organization called the Association for the Study of Classical African Civilizations (ASCAC), which takes as its mission the need to “dismantle the European intellectual campaign to commit historicide against African peoples.” Carruthers includes “African-Americans” within a group he would define as simply “African.” When forced to describe a black person as “American,” Carruthers uses quotation marks, thus indicating that no black person can be American in any authentic sense. According to Carruthers, “The submission to Western civilization and its most outstanding offspring, American civilization, is, in reality, surrender to white supremacy.”
Carruthers’s goal is to use African-centered education to recreate a separatist universe within America, a kind of state-within-a-state. The rites of passage movement is central to the plan. Carruthers sees enemies on every part of the political spectrum, from conservatives, to liberals, to academic leftists, all of whom reject advocates of Kemetic civilization, like himself, as dangerous and academically irresponsible extremists. Carruthers sees all these groups as deluded captives of white supremacist Eurocentric culture. Therefore the only safe place for Africans living in the United States (i.e. American blacks) is outside the mental boundaries of our ineradicably racist Eurocentric civilization. As Carruthers puts it: “…some of us have chosen to reject the culture of our oppressors and recover our disrupted ancestral culture.” The rites of passage movement is a way to teach young Africans in the United States how to reject America and recover their authentic African heritage.
America as Rape
Carruthers admits that Africans living in America have already been shaped by Western culture, yet compares this Americanization process to rape: “We may not be able to get our virginity back after the rape, but we do not have to marry the rapist….” In other words, American blacks (i.e. Africans) may have been forcibly exposed to American culture, but that doesn’t mean they need to accept it. The better option, says Carruthers, is to separate out and relearn the wisdom of Africa’s original Kemetic culture, embodied in the teachings of the ancient wise man, Ptahhotep (an historical figure traditionally identified as the author of a Fifth Dynasty wisdom book). Anything less than re-Africanization threatens the mental, and even physical, genocide of Africans living in an ineradicably white supremacist United States.
Carruthers is a defender of Leonard Jeffries, professor in the department of black studies at City College in Harlem, infamous for his black supremacist and anti-Semitic views. Jeffries sees whites as oppressive and violent “ice people,” in contrast to peaceful and mutually supportive black “sun people.” The divergence says Jeffries, is attributable to differing levels of melanin in the skin. Jeffries also blames Jews for financing the slave trade. Carruthers defends Jeffries and excoriates the prestigious black academics Carruthers views as traitorous for denouncing their African brother, Jeffries. Carruthers’s vision of the superior and peaceful Kemetic philosophy of Ptahhotep triumphing over Greco-Euro-American-white culture obviously parallels Jeffries’ opposition between ice people and sun people.
More of Carruthers’s education philosophy can be found in his newsletter, The Kemetic Voice. In 1997, for example, at the same time Carruthers was advising SSAVC on how to set up an African-centered curriculum, he praised the decision of New Orleans’ School Board to remove the name of George Washington from an elementary school. Apparently, some officials in New Orleans had decided that nobody who held slaves should have a school named after him. Carruthers touted the name-change as proof that his African-centered perspective was finally having an effect on public policy. At the demise of George Washington School, Carruthers crowed: “These events remind us of how vast the gulf is that separates the Defenders of Western Civilization from the Champions of African Civilization.”
According to Chicago Annenberg Challenge records, Carruthers’s training session on African-centered curricula for SSAVC teachers was a huge hit: “As a consciousness raising session, it received rave reviews, and has prepared the way for the curriculum readiness survey….” These teacher-training workshops were directly funded by the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. Another sure sign of the ideological cast of SSAVC’s curriculum can be found in Annenberg documents noting that SSAVC students are taught the wisdom of Ptahhotep. Carruthers’s concerns about “menticide” and “genocide” at the hand of America’s white supremacist system seem to be echoed in an SSAVC document that says: “Our children need to understand the historical context of our struggles for liberation from those forces that seek to destroy us.”
When Jeremiah Wright turned toward African-centered thinking in the late 1980s and early 1990s (the period when, attracted by Wright’s African themes, Barack Obama first became a church member), many prominent thinkers from Carruthers’s Association for the Study of Classical African Civilizations were invited to speak at Trinity United Church of Christ, Carruthers himself included. We hear echoes of Carruthers’s work in Wright’s distinction between “right brained” Africans and “left brained” Europeans, in Wright’s fears of U.S. government-sponsored genocide against American blacks, and in Wright’s embittered attacks on America’s indelibly white-supremacist history. In Wright’s Trumpet Newsmagazine, as in Carruthers’s own writings, blacks are often referred to as “Africans living in the diaspora” rather than as Americans.
Asa Hilliard
Chicago Annenberg Challenge records also indicate that SSAVC educators invited Asa Hilliard, a pioneer of African-centered curricula and a close colleague of Carruthers, to offer a keynote address at yet another Annenberg-funded teacher training session. Hilliard’s ties to Wright run still deeper than Carruthers’s. A close Wright mentor and friend, Hilliard died in 2007 while on a trip to Kemet (Egypt) with Wright and members of Wright’s congregation. Hillard was scheduled to deliver several lectures to the congregants, and to speak at a meeting of the Association for the Study of Classical African Civilization, which he co-founded with Carruthers and other “African-centered” scholars. On that last trip, Hilliard accepted an appointment to the board of Wright’s new elementary school, Kwame Nkrumah Academy. Speaking of the need for such a school, Wright had earlier said, “We need to educate our children to the reality of white supremacy.” (For more on Wright’s Afrocentric school, see “Jeremiah Wright’s ‘Trumpet.’”)
Wright delivered the eulogy at Hilliard’s memorial service, with prominent members of ASCAC in the audience. To commemorate Hilliard, a special, two-cover double issue of Wright’s Trumpet Newsmagazine was published, with a picture of Hilliard on one side, and a picture of Louis Farrakhan on the other (in celebration of a 2007 award Farrakhan received from Wright). In short, the ties between Wright and Hilliard could hardly have been closer. Clearly, then, Wright’s own educational philosophy was mirrored at the Annenberg-funded SSAVC, which sought out Hilliard’s and Carruthers’s counsel to construct its curriculum.
Perhaps inadvertently, Wright’s eulogy for Hilliard actually established the fringe nature of his favorite African-centered scholars. In his tribute, Wright stressed how intensely “white Egyptologists recoiled at the very notion of everything Asa taught.” As Wright himself made plain, it seems virtually impossible to find respectable scholars of any political stripe who approve of the extremist anti-American version of Afrocentrism promoted by Hilliard and Carruthers.
Ayers’s Pals
An important exception to the rule is Bill Ayers himself, who not only worked with Obama to fund groups like this at the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, but who is still “palling around” with the same folks. Discretely waiting until after the election, Bill Ayers and his wife, and fellow former terrorist, Bernardine Dohrn plan to release a book in 2009 entitled Race Course Against White Supremacy. The book will be published by Third World Press, a press set up by Carruthers and other members of the ASCAC. Representatives of that press were prominently present for Wright’s eulogy at Asa Hilliard’s memorial service. Less than a decade ago, therefore, when it came to education issues, Barack Obama, Bill Ayers, and Jeremiah Wright were pretty much on the same page.
Obama’s Knowledge
Given the precedent of his earlier responses on Ayers and Wright, Obama might be inclined to deny personal knowledge of the educational philosophy he was so generously funding. Such a denial would not be convincing. For one thing, we have evidence that in 1995, the same year Obama assumed control of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, he publicly rejected “the unrealistic politics of integrationist assimilation,” a stance that clearly resonates with both Wright and Carruthers. (See “No Liberation.”)
And as noted, Wright had invited Carruthers, Hilliard, and like-minded thinkers to address his Trinity congregants. Wright likes to tick off his connections to these prominent Afrocentrists in sermons, and Obama would surely have heard of them. Reading over SSAVC’s Annenberg proposals, Obama could hardly be ignorant of what they were about. And if by some chance Obama overlooked Hilliard’s or Carruthers’s names, SSAVC’s proposals are filled with references to “rites of passage” and “Ptahhotep,” dead giveaways for the anti-American and separatist ideological concoction favored by SSAVC.
We know that Obama did read the proposals. Annenberg documents show him commenting on proposal quality. And especially after 1995, when concerns over self-dealing and conflicts of interest forced the Ayers-headed “Collaborative” to distance itself from monetary issues, all funding decisions fell to Obama and the board. Significantly, there was dissent within the board. One business leader and experienced grant-smith characterized the quality of most Annenberg proposals as “awful.” (See “The Chicago Annenberg Challenge: The First Three Years,” p. 19.) Yet Obama and his very small and divided board kept the money flowing to ideologically extremist groups like the South Shore African Village Collaborative, instead of organizations focused on traditional educational achievement.
As if the content of SSAVC documents wasn’t warning enough, their proposals consistently misspelled “rites of passage” as “rights of passage,” hardly an encouraging sign from a group meant to improve children’s reading skills. The Chicago Annenberg Challenge’s own evaluators acknowledged that Annenberg-aided schools showed no improvement in achievement scores. Evaluators attributed that failure, in part, to the fact that many of Annenberg’s “external partners” had little educational expertise. A group that puts its efforts into Kwanzaa celebrations and half-baked history certainly fits that bill, and goes a long way toward explaining how Ayers and Obama managed to waste upwards of $150 million without improving student achievement.
However he may seek to deny it, all evidence points to the fact that, from his position as board chair of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, Barack Obama knowingly and persistently funded an educational project that shared the extremist and anti-American philosophy of Jeremiah Wright. The Wright affair was no fluke. It’s time for McCain to say so.
— Stanley Kurtz is a senior fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center.
Posted by: uncle sam | October 14, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am
“Biden told voters that only Obama is capable of instilling the necessary confidence among international leaders to steer the country past this economic crisis.”
What a hoot! Only a few months ago Biden told us Senator Obama was not qualified to be President.
Biden and Obama deserve each other–speaking out of both sides of their mouths at will to advance their own political ambitions.
Our country deserves better!
Posted by: LJC | October 14, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
Bidens a traitor to his own people. He said during the primaries that Oslima was not ready and McCain was. Now because he has a chance for a little more power and prestige he sold his sole to the Devil below. To hell with you OBiden, literally.
Posted by: bombem | October 14, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
McCain admits that when he was a young man he was “excited as hell” at the prospect of playing a personal role in provoking an all-out global nuclear confrontation by bombing Cuba. Now that he is an old man running for president, it appears that McCain has not matured and gets very stimulated by thoughts of provoking war whereever and whenever he can. I sure wish people who are terrified by Obama’s middle name or the color of his skin would review all of the militeristic, provocative statements McCain has made in recent years and months, and seriously ask themselves which candidate they need to be afraid of.
Posted by: pbuchberg | October 21, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
Want a hint of what Obama Presidency will be? – Check on his campaign overspending!
Posted by: Renato Bermejo | October 22, 2008, 7:48 am 7:48 am