Biden Not Worried About ‘Joe the Plumber’

McCain loves Joe, a registered Republican, who also happens to have a state tax lien filed against him for NOT paying his taxes.
Looks like they vetted Joe about as well as they did Palin.

So if I read this correctly, our next VP is not concerned about Joe the Plumber who regardless of circumstances is still a tax paying citizen; and is polishing up his golf clubs…gee doesn’t that give you confidence in the next administration’s ability to handle the job…The way it sounds you would think that we were electing the next student body pres and vice pres…GET SERIOUS ALREADY..IT LOOKS AS IF YOU ARE GOING TO TAKE THIS…

OK OK .. I am sick of hearing about “Joe the Plumber”. Can we move no now?

I second that beck.

Joe the Plumber doesn’t even make $250k and he owes $1200 in back taxes…so whatever Biden said about is irrelevant..

I find it interesting that we should be concerned about a man who is in a position to consider buying his employer’s business. A lot of Americans right now can’t afford to even THINK about buying a business! They are only worried about losing their jobs!

So if I read this correctly, our next VP is not concerned about Joe the Plumber who regardless of circumstances is still a tax paying citizen; … Posted by: socalvoter
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well actually, no. he’s a tax-evading citizen.

Joe Biden called Sarah Palin “dangerous.” the media drove the story that McCain rallies were “racist” and “klan meetings.” Even Sen. Obama whined about it in last night’s debate. But the Secret Service just found the alleged story “unfounded.” http://www.timesleader.com/news/breakingnews/Secret_Service_says_Kill_him_allegation_unfounded_.html the media wasted our time, this was clearly a set-up, a fabrication, to smear the McCain/Palin base.
We cannot count on the media to cover us or our opponents fairly and unbiasedly. They will drive whatever story, notwithstanding falsity, to make us look “desperate” and “erratic.” We must count on ourselves. From today until election day, I call on us to proudly and boldly share our support for Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin in our daily lives. Tell your friends who you’re voting for, and tell them why you’re voting for them. Tell your co-workers you don’t like the changes Sen. Obama brought to Chicago. Tell strangers when you go shopping or jogging, that Chicago is not a better place because Sen. Obama pushed Bill Ayers’s education agenda, and the South Side of Chicago is not a better place because Sen. Obama swelled the ranks of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s Trinity United Church of Christ with our next generation for 20 years. If we don’t stand up for ourselves, no one will. God Bless You and may God continue to Bless America.

Now ABC is trying to dig up dirt on Joe Plumber. He gets the Palin treatment. Wow, he has tax problems. Guess what-that”s because of the socialist like Obama. Joe Plumber did not ask for a handout or complain.
ABC where is Obama’s real birth certificate?

But beck.. I thought the Obama supporters were caring and responsible people.. you know people who are concerned about the little guy..WHY SHOULD YOU BE SICK OF JOE…HE REPRESENTS WHAT YOU WANT FIXED RIGHT??? THIS IS A MAN WHO HAS ECONOMIC CONCERNS ABOUT HIS FUTURE..WHERE IS YOU COMPASSION..IS THAT NOT WHAT OBAMA IS ABOUT?? Or was it all just talk????? Just as I thought…the next four years will be like the last 2 years on steriods…

Geevill……gotta love that flash of the hand you’re trying to pull because McCain’s plant, Joe the plumber(wonder if he knows Joe sixpack?)got outed. LOL @ the silly plumber telling Obama he doesn’t trust his tax plan when the guy isn’t even paying taxes. Typical republican crap. Talking about Obama’s birth certificate isn’t going to pay Joe’s back taxes.

You Americans are absolutely self-centered, whining, pathetic excuse of a homo sapien! Either everything wrong in the world is 100% due to Bush, Cheney, Iraq war, McCain blah blah blah or the golden sunshine and koombaya of forgiving and being peaceful will happen when Obamanomics will come to power and rule the world! While you people cry over your selfish, self centered agendas, the rest of us (hello … there is the rest of world!) suffer because of greed, because of lust for power, because of arrogance! And you wonder why everyone else looks down at you with absolute contempt! You got your just desserts people and maybe just maybe this crisis will make you less arrogant and be more humble!

Giving JTP is not even there and having difficulty to pay his tax, why he approaches Obama to express worry about Obama’s tax plan. Can he really afford to buy the plumbing business he talked about ? Is this a planted ploy from McCain ? I remeber McCain said something about “…we have them (Obama) where we want them to be …”, a day or two before the debate.
Maybe, Joe The Plumber should be renamed to Joe The Puppet or Joe The Ploy.

good point..Is he not still a citizen?? Shouldn’t Obama supporters be sympathetic in his economic troubles?? Isn’t that why they are voting for Obama because he shows compassion toward his fellow man??? You offer the fact that this poor man is not a tax paying citizen with satisfaction ARE you trying to prove a point based upon someone tragedy….SHAME ON YOU…Seriously if he has a State tax lien on him it is more that likely it is for property taxes…If he works, he has to pay pay-roll tax..he does not own the business..he hopes to buy the business; therefore, he has an employer who takes out pay-roll tax…fica…etc…GEEZ OBAMA SUPPORTERS START PRACTICING WHAT YOU PREACH…

So lets just say that JOE was a Plant from the McCain Camp, does that still take away the fact that OBAMA SAID “HE WANTS TO SPREAD THE WEALTH?”
Does it take away the fact that Obama said what he said? NO!

Clearly, Joe “the plumber”, aka “the tax cheat”, aka “hospital bill deadbeat”, aka relative of Charles Keating…
…is a McCain plant.

People, let’s look at this logically: Obama was at a rally and this ‘Joe the Plumber’ guy asked a question which was more hypothetical than reality. He wanted to know if he works hard, saves money, takes risks, succeeds, and then buys a business, will he be taxed at a much higher percentage rate for that success? That is the basic principle: Should you be punished for financial success. Joe was asking that. It doesn’t matter if he is a plumber or a doctor. Or if he owes back taxes. It was a question to explore Obama’s fundamental principles. Obama responded by saying that if one already makes over $250k, then the government should indeed punish you by taking even more money from you and redistributing back to people who make less. Obama’s arguments on why this was a good idea were nonsensical, since providing tax relief to “Joe” 10 years ago does not help him now. The argument that people who make more should pay more is CORRECT! They do pay more, since it is a percentage of your income. The more you make the more you pay. Obama wants to increase this to 39% instead of 35% (current rate). The top few percent of earners already pay the majority of the taxes in the US. And “rolling taxes back to pre-Bush era” is nonsense-speak that really translates to “take money from voting minorities and give it to the government.” That is known as class warfare. If you want socialism, then move to Europe. I will finally add that doing the right thing in life often may not look great to others on the surface, but the core principals should be the driver. Lower taxes stimulates the economy. Lower corporate taxes brings businesses back to the US. Lower taxes on “the wealthy” helps drive the stock market, small business investments, etc. Perceived political correctness has run rampant in the US, and that is our #1 enemy. McCain is a lesser evil to our economy than Obama.

So I guess all you “fascists” ( I call you fascists since you call us socialists) who are anti “spread the wealth” are PRO-DEFICIT and ANTI-MIDDLE CLASS, huh? I say this because when the rich pay a little more EVERYONE does well and the deficit shrinks. When the rich don’t pay their share, the economy suffers and the middle class suffer. THIS HAS BEEN PROVEN BY HISTORY! LOOK IT UP! Clinton, who followed Obama’s tax plan had RECORD JOB CREATION and LEFT A SURPLUS. Reagan and both Bushes had poor job creation and RECORD DEFICITS. And guess what? They all three gave tax cuts to the rich and burdened the middle class.

wow very interesting
http://www.jaiderbertoli.com/blog/9-blog/10-joe-the-plumber-not-a-licensed-plumber

So “Joe the Plumber” is not a plumber and owes $1200 in back taxes? Not sure why the guy is so afraid of more taxes if he doesn’t even pay ‘em in the first place…
McCain can’t seriously use this guy on rhe trail or as a centerpiece of his economy plan. He’s damaged goods – with a record of lying and tax evasion.
http://www.political-buzz.com/

Actually Joe the plumber isn’t a plumber at all. Reporters found out that he doesn’t have a plumbers liscense???

Obamamaniacs need to treat their delusional narcissistic disorder.Now it is Joe who is in their way,before it was those rural voters who cling to everything but New York Times,then it was Palin the moose burger eater etc.
Their nose up in the air attitude combined with a sense of entitlement will backfire.

Can someone please call the coroner?
White Supremecy, as you once knew it IS ON IT’S DEATHBED.
The executioner will be making a visit November 4th and it won’t be for tea and biscuits.
POTUS OBAMA – IT’S A LOCK! 19 DAYS

There are plenty of small business owners and I am glad that Biden has told us how he feels about us. Obama needs to call his tax cut what it is, welfare. He wants to deprive people of all self respect and hope of accomplishing anything without the assistance of government. There are lots of small businesses who are successful in spite of government. We face the same crushing expenses that big corporations face without the benefit of a better bargaining position. We pay payroll taxes, workers compensation insurance, health insurance, general and business liability insurance, income tax, sales tax, corporate tax, etc., we are the risk takers who sacrafice day after day to achieve the american dream. We do not get sick days, vacation time, we work 6 or 7 days a week 10 – 12 hours a day so that one day we can provide a better life for our family. Obama now wants to get a cut just like a Chicago gangster. No cuts for Obama’s welfare plan.

McCain and Palin should be ashamed of thier attacks and false statements. JTP probably is an implant from thier camp. They don’t have anything positive to offer so they slam the candidate that does with whomever they can find. I don’t see how they can sleep at night knowing they are willing to give up the lives of our military for thier greed. 4 more yrs of Bush and Cheney and all thier secrecy makes me sick. Don’t believe that McCain and Palin will be any better, Just more of the same.

– There are plenty of small business owners and I am glad that Biden has told us how he feels about us –
Absolutely! I am a small business owner and I look forward to Obamas tax plan. I might be able to finally afford health insurance for my employees which would be fantastic.

Nat Turner–The MSM is driving this election and the ignorant Obamabots are too stupid to see it. In 2000, they said Gore was going to win by a landslide and had him up in the polls sometimes in the double digits over Bush. Then they were so sure of themselves that on election night they called Gore the winner, when some of the polls were still open and people were still standing in line. Guess what? Bush won.
In 2004, the MSM once again said Kerry was going to sweep the election and had him up 10 points in Ohio the day before election day. Guess what? Bush won.
I do not believe the pollsters, who do they poll, where do they poll? When do they poll?
Obamabots are sheep who believe everything they are told. Baaaaaa

– Obamabots are sheep who believe everything they are told. Baaaaaa –
Actually, most look at each candidates positions and what that would mean for the country.. And from what I’ve seen, the ones voting for McCain don’t really support his platform, they just don’t like Obama.

Sean,
You are a LIAR.
By this time in 2000 and 2004 Bush was leading by 6-9 points.
So, stop lieing “my friend”.
McCain will lose. The old geezer is toast.

Obamabots are sheep who believe everything they are told.
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We don’t believe that the Republican VP is in any way qualified or credible. But YOU do simply because the Pubs told you she was.
We don’t buy in to rediculous accusations about “secret terrorists” or “fixing an election” but YOU do because the Pubs told you it is so.
Baaaaaa Baaaaaa Baaaaa

In the past 8 years, the wealthiest 5% of Americans have DOUBLED their holdings.
The middle class has seen stagnant growth at best. Actually a reduction if we factor in cost of living increases.
THAT’S pure wealth redistribution!
Only, under Republican guidance, the wealth is redistributed FROM the middle class TO the already wealthy. The wealthy get to coast on the backs of the middle class American.
If letting the mega-rich keep more money stimulates the economy and creates jobs, why is unemployment increasing, jobs are shrinking, wages are decreasing, and our entire economy is tanked across the board?
Supply side economics is a failure. There is NO WAY to say otherwise. Not by ANY metric used. It FAILED! (Unless you’re one of the top 5%)
I prefer a leader who is trying to help 85%+ of the American population over the guy whose main concern seems to be a non-tax paying plumber without a license.
Say hello to PRESIDENT OBAMA!

McCain stated that American corporations pay 35% in taxes.
That statement is 100% NOT TRUE!
Whlie the tax code reflects a 35% rate, the ACTUAL amount paid by the Fortune 500 was LESS THAN 18%.
I pay more than that, and I’m only making $50k/year.
Why do Pubs have a problem with corporations paying their share of the burden in America?
Ronald Reagan RAISED corporate taxes. Is he not the quintessential Republican for you guys?
There are families in this nation that need tax relief just to pay their bills. Anyone making over a quarter million per year is not exactly suffering.
But when you have 7 houses and 13 cars, had a sliver spoon your whole life, and you’re married to an heiress, I can see where you would be out of touch with 90% of America.

“I cannot,in good conscience, support a tax cut in which so many of the benefits go to the most fortunate among us at the expense of middle-class Americans who most need tax relief.”
John McCain 2001
OBVIOUSLY, HIS CONSCIENCE JUST DOESN’T BOTHER HIM ANYMORE.

Joe aka Sam the plumber was nothing but a plant for McCaign. He’s been spouting off about getting rid of social security, what a great idea the Iraq war was and is, and after admitting he dosen’t make $250K, he says what if Obama is lying and starts taxing small business that make less than 100k.Funny, he dosen’t even own a business. It’s time Joe stops getting the attention for asking Obama a question, while being filmed, about taxes. How tranparant. I can’t beleive the media hasn’t picked up on the scam.

I’m curious to know where M@chiavelli is from? It might interest you to know whoever we elect will do nothing he said he would. Whatever he does do, you can bet it won’t be in the interest of the people. It will be to satisfy their own power trip. The Americans don’t screw up things this bad. Washington does! No one in the government looks out for us. So don’t think we don’t know exactly how you feel. Just want you to know we feel your pain.

Clearly, the McCain campaign plans on beating this to death until the poll numbers tell them it’s not working and then they’ll move on.
Why do they insist on tormenting us with the same old garbage? McCain used to have real ideas and real stands on the issues. It is disingenuous for him to promise all these tax cuts when we are spending way too much money. Yes, I heard the “spending freeze” but we are spending too much. Yes, I heard about the “earmarks”, but two months of war in Iraq surpasses all the earmarks for the entire year. Yes, Obama is planning on spending a ton but at least that money gets spent at home and may create some new jobs (or preserve existing ones).
Why is McCain so desperate?

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/10/16/obama-organizer-targets-the-big-house/
Obama at it again, more voter fraud.

One more thing M@chiavelli. It is our money that pays for everybody and everything all over the world. If you’re footing the bill and doing without I bet you’d be a whiner too!

liberals are lemmings!

But when you have 7 houses and 13 cars, had a sliver spoon your whole life, and you’re married to an heiress, I can see where you would be out of touch with 90% of America.
Posted by: McCain – not for the middle class | Oct 16, 2008 6:10:22 PM
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that is hateful; we should have a respectable discussion.
Sen. McCain has been starved… not just gone hungry, we’ve all gone hungry before, but starved. Have any of you been starved before? He has gone to bed in the cold. He has been denied critical medical attention when he needed it most. He has had his dignity stripped from him when he was tortured so badly he had to dig deep into his primoral survival instincts and choose between making a false “confession” or dying a slow and painful death. I don’t think Sen. McCain wants any of that on us. In fact, being born with a silver spoon lodged up his nose, son and grandson of Admirals and all, despite that and considering the fact that he chose to go through all that for us, I’m convinced he will do everything in his power to keep any of us from having to go through it.
If there is one candidate that can’t empathize with the anxious and the suffering, though, I would think it’s Sen. Obama. I don’t think he’s ever been in a situation where he has had to lose hope. In this campaign, he says he can’t possibly be an elitist because at one point, his mother was on welfare, but according to himself in a Time Magazine article by Joe Klein in 2006, Barack Obama said, “I was going to a fancy prep school, and my mother was on food stamps while she was getting her Ph.D.” http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,1546362,00.html now, Sen. Obama’s mother’s status as a legitimate welfare recipient or welfare abuser is irrelevant to Sen. Obama’s character himself, but his mother’s being on welfare by no means indicates that he is neither an elitist or has suffered as Sen. McCain and the American people have.

Good Grief M…. I am sorry! I have insulted the wrong person. My apologies! Lol

“A rude awakening is coming to the left in this country!” Mmmmm, I don’t think so. Have you looked at what is happening in the Senate and House elections lately? :-)

Chris, Jesus was not a socialist liberal, he was Jewish! I you wanna know what Jesus was about in politics with his own people, take a look at Israel! Just talked about personal responsibility and the kindness of the human heart through giving, which shows one’s true heart. He also said follow the law’s of the land, and give unto caesar what is caesar’s. This is not a socialist country, and neither is Israel. If you talk about you being well off, why don’t you donate you’re time or even money to organizations who already do such things, instead of the Government saying too, or you will go to jail. You sound more like a liberal nut portraying to be a well off Christian. Get a life and stop lying! Jesus also spoke against that also!

You pick out one part of my post, THE DEBATING! You seem to have a cut and paste complex. I read your post, and you are a paid Obama blogger with his talking points, no more. You don’t care what I say or throw out there, you just post, then get on you’re knee’s a pray to Obama after your post. So why waste my time with a partisan liberal nutcase.

And you know what Mickey, Christ was a socialist RADICAL! OMG!!! He railed against the political and religious establishment of Israel. He told his followers to “sell all they had” and to follow him. He said that “it was easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven”. He associated with the downtrodden and castaways in his society rather than the Jewish elite. Have you ever actually read the words of Christ – you know, the red ones?

Mickey. OK my anger was over the top. I apologize for that. If there were more Christians like you and I then we wouldn’t need any government support for the needy. The government will never be as efficent as direct support of misisons. I commend you for your service to your community. I also commend the Catholic church and the Baptists for all they do. I wish all Christians were as involved and committed. Unfortunately that is not so. Again, please accept my apology.

Sean,
You are a LIAR.
By this time in 2000 and 2004 Bush was leading by 6-9 points.
So, stop lieing “my friend”.
McCain will lose. The old geezer is toast.
Posted by: Steve_NJ | Oct 16, 2008 5:57:35 PM
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Steve_NJ,
Sorry to get you worked up into a tantrum but the facts speak for themselves. Look it up, there is this great thing called google now.
In 2004, Newsweek Survey reported Kerry at 48 to bush at 46.
Gallup reported Kerry 53 to Bush at 46, with Kerry leading in Ohio by 6.
CBS reported Kerry leading Bush 48-43.
I’m not LYING.

That’s right, SELL!!! Not give away!

– I make $42,000 a year, and keep your hands out of my pocket, –
Then you will be glad to know that under Obamas tax plan, you will get a $500 tax cut (if you file individually, $1000 if you file married/joint).. under McCain, you would get zip!
http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/

Josie – you’re probably right about that. But it is also true of McCain. Every 4 years politicians promise us the moon to purchase our votes. Once elected they do what they want to do anyway. The sad part is that we continue to fall for it. I guess I get more cynical with age.

“Fox Claims a New “Report” Says Obama Raised Taxes 300+ Times While in the Illinois State Senate — Guest Dan Cronin (R-IL) Turns Into a Blithering Idiot Trying to Back it Up”
http://www.newshounds.us/2008/02/26/fox_claims_a_new_report_says_obama_raised_taxes_300_times_while_in_the_illinois_state_senate_guest_dan_cronin_ril_turns_into_a_blithering_idiot_trying_to_back_it_up.php

Joe Biden! Come on folks please get with it. He is a con man. He made $320,000.00 last year and guess how much they gave folks to charity? $995!! I don’t make anywhere near that but I gave and have always given a whole lot more than that! I believe in 10 years he has not given more than $4,000!
The same for Obama he only started to give when he knew he was running for Prez. Do your homework and understand how these two men are the most liberal and corrupt and are going to raise our taxes and lose jobs for us. They just want to be charitable with our money not theirs!
Are you really all that stupid to put these two and let them control our taxes and our lives!

Obama decides “who needs it” and who doesn’t.

Joe, hopefully you shank one into the woods and kill an endangered species.

Recordings and information leading to recent API story on Michelle Obama’s telephone call is now being cleared for release
Posted by africanpress on October 17, 2008
API is disturbed by the way many have reacted to the story on Mrs Obama’s call. Many have shown us by the way they have behaved towards API that they only think of their own interests because they have demanded that the audio recordings should be released immediately. We understand that the tapes should be released, but those who have demanded the release of the tapes seem not take into account that API may become a suing target.
The Recordings:
API has recordings of the conversation between API and Mrs Obama (Shocking development: Mrs Obama decides enough is enough: “My husband was born in Hawaii and adopted by his step father, does that make him unpatriotic; she asks”, on a direct telephone to API., and we confirm that the audio will be released to the public. In the last 24 hours, API has been consulting legal advisers on the way forward in order to avoid being sued by the Obama camp. API has realised that the contents of the tapes if made public may change the political atmosphere in America for ever, especially in the next few days.
Due to enormous reactions received, API now understands the impact of the statements made by Mrs Obama. The American people have reacted in a way we in API would never have expected.
Many have question why Mrs Obama would choose a little known online media group instead of the American media. API was chosen because of a Nairobi contact that did not like the way API was covering Barack Obama using information collected from American media outlets. The Nairobi contact prevailed upon Mrs Obama to talk to API.
The only thing API may have done wrong is not informing Mrs Obama that the conversation was being recorded. This is why it is taking time to release the recording while consulting a legal team because API wants to be legally safe from any Obama camp law suit.
The US Media Outlets:
Since the release of Mrs Obama story, many US media outlets have insisted that API should release the recordings made when Mrs Obama spoke with API. We understand the importance of the recordings in our possession and yet the first thing we are thinking of is not simply to make them public because groups are pressurising API to do so. The release of the information will be done, because we know we have Mrs Obama on tape, but API must do it in a way that does not put API in an embarrassing legal situation.
Die-hard Obama supporters:
A number of Americans who are die-hard Obama followers have tried their best to intimidate API using all kinds of threatening methods when they call in and when they email us. They are implying that API is planning to destroy Obama’s chances to become the next US President. API does not have a direct interest in the US Presidential elections and we want Obama supporters to understand that. However, when someone who may become the next first lady makes such comments as in the story we have published, the public have the right to know. Intimidation directed to the publishers of the story is not the answer.
The delay to make public the recordings is expected to give time to Mrs Obama to come clean and tell the American people that her comments were not meant to harm anyone but that she was reacting to the media pressure on her husband. She should also come out and tell the American people that she will not discriminate those who are not Obama fanatics if she becomes the first lady.
Die-hard Mcain supporters:
Those who do not support Obama are actively pushing for the release of the recordings also, and we understand them very well. In many telephone conversations with them we, however, get disturbed when we realise that most of them want the recordings to be released because they want to use it to stop Senator Obama from being elected President. They state clearly that if the story is true and released now, the contents will safe America from a constitutional crisis that may come if things come out after the elections that proves Obama was adopted by a foreigner, thus, disqualifying him from the Presidency.
Some readers:
Some have questioned why API has its base in Norway. Online News Media can be based anywhere in the world. With the Internet age, a news network can have people anywhere in the world. API’s news correspondents – 19 of them are real and based in the African Continent. API is a solid Daily Online News Channel and this Obama story will not change that.
Questioning API on being based in Norway:
There is nothing wrong having African Press International based in Norway and the channel run by Africans from the African Continent. Even Kenya’s present Prime Minister Raila Odinga lived in Norway for some time before joining the Kenya government.
API has also been accused because of the timing to release Mrs Obama story. Some even discus small issues as to why API telephone number starts with 00, and spellings in the article. This to us in API sounds ridiculous.
The important thing to be concerned about is how API obtained the story and how genuine it is. The second thing is to exercise understanding and to respect why there is a delay in releasing the recordings. API is not saying there are no recordings, but it is important to take serious API’s concerns on a possible suit if the tapes are not handled carefully.
API is not out to convince the American public of anything. We do not want to influence the outcome of the US Presidential elections. API got a true story and published it. The fact that the story has caused a stir was unexpected, but that does not mean API must rush in a manner that will cause problems to itself, just to satisfy those who want the audio tapes so badly.
When the legal concerns are cleared, which is happening in a short while, API will make public all the recordings available. This will also include comments, not yet published, which will most certainly put the Obama Campaign spokesperson who had dismissed the story off balance.
Even if our recordings or any other recordings had surfaced after the elections and if the contents were damaging to the elected person that still could have caused any elected president to vacate the White House. We all know that the tapes released in the US in 1974 forced President Richard Nixon out of office. The truth is the truth. The tapes during Nixon time did not lie.
The same here. The recordings that API will release soon will not lie to the American people. Most probably, it will change the political landscape, something the Americans should start getting prepared to face.
Published by Chief Editor Korir
African Press International – API
http://africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/10/17/recordings-and-information-leading-to-recent-api-story-on-michelle-obamas-telephone-call-is-now-being-cleared-for-release/#comment-37305

Talk about “redistributing the wealth”, the Republicans have already been helping to redistribute the wealth for the past 8 years – from the middle and lower income groups to the very rich top 5%. That’s fair heh?

Joe is a dumbass who doesn’t know the difference between net and gross income. As many people pointed out he’d gain more under Obama’s tax plan, what a dope… It’s really pathetic that he gets so much attention though.

The tax cuts by Obama are nothing but smoke and mirrors.
I looked at my income from 2001 to now, I make under $250,000 a yr, and I found that under Obama’s plan I would be paying $4,000 more. Obama plans to let Bush’s tax cuts expire and execute his own.
It does not add up and once again proves that Obama is a liar.
For all the socialist programs he wants to implement, he will have to raise taxes, it’s impossible to do everything he wants to do without raising taxes.
Stop taking Obama’s word for it and do your research. He wants to raise all taxes across the board, capital gains tax and dividend tax will double, 28% profit from all home sales, inheritance tax, new taxes on gas and natural gas. Believe me you will feel it.
Haven’t we had enough of big government running this country. We need to take our country back not give it to Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Franks and Biden. We’ve already seen what they do in power.

To CT –
You need serious help, take a break, a vacation of all this pollution you keep spewing for Axelrod and Obama. As Obama if he can spot you given the fact that he is so frigging generous!

– The tax cuts by Obama are nothing but smoke and mirrors.
I looked at my income from 2001 to now, I make under $250,000 a yr, and I found that under Obama’s plan I would be paying $4,000 more. –
Where exactly did you ‘look’?
http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/

The Republicans have already been helping to “redistribute the wealth” for the past 8 years – from the middle and lower income groups to the very rich top 5%.
That’s fair heh?

CT,
you are delusional if you think anyone doesn’t know you are an an Obama supporter.

Jeremiah Wright moved into a brand new $1.6 million home with a $10 million line of credit (paid for by his church). oh yeah, it’s in a gated mostly white gated community.

His 15 minutes are up, the government will now dismiss what he thinks or cares about. He owes $1200 in back taxes and there is a lien on his house. I kinda feel bad for him. Or McCain could really take off with this and try to use it as a talking point about how the last thing he needs is more taxes, but please, spare us. And I doubt it anyway.

Joe Wurzelbacher didn’t give a speech or make a commercial. He asked a question. He stood on a rope line, and Obama picked him to ask it. The Tanning-Bed Media seems to feel that they have a duty to expose every last part of Wurzelbacher’s life, but that asking Obama to explain his political partnerships with Tony Rezko and William Ayers, and his long friendship and financial support of rabid demagogues Jeremiah Wright and Michael Pfleger, are not just out of bounds but downright racist.
So what have we learned from this episode?
1. Thou shalt not offend The One by asking him a question. Of any kind.
2. Anyone who questions The One will have to undergo a public pillorying of a kind unseen since the Red Scare, or perhaps the Inquisition.
3. The Tanning-Bed Media will happily participate in any inquisition, as long as it keeps them from investigating irrelevant issues like Obama’s ties to the Chicago Machine, William Ayers, ACORN, or his record on protecting infanticide.
Don’t ask questions. Don’t check the records of people running for political office, but do check the records of those who dare violate Rule #1. No dissent will be tolerated. Our political and media masters have spoken.

Barack Hussein Obama II for president!

Leave Joe alone. He’s just an average guy, sans publicist, who is just trying to build a better life for himself. the problem with this so-called tax cut is that obama is lying. the WSJ just had an article that dissected his tax plan and found his claims to be very erroneous. also, if your boss gets a tax increase you don’t get a raise. the customers get charged more. period. DUH!

Regarding “distributing the wealth”, the Republicans have already been helping to “redistribute the wealth” for the past 8 years – from the middle and lower income groups to the very rich top 5%.
And its the real “Plumber Joe”s who have been paying.

Noticed that the liberal morons are grasping at straws again. They are actually trying to say Joe the Plumber was a plant by the McCain campaign and he has connections to Keating. He is a distant relative of someone who is Keatings son-in-law. Apparently, the Dems were working fast and furiously last night digging up dirt on Joe so they would have ammo today and they found that Joe may owe a small amount in back taxes. If he’s so well connected to Keating, why haven’t his taxes been paid? Why is he “trying” to buy a business? If he’s so well connected to Keating, he would own the business right now.
There is no logic to these accusations against Joe the plumber. He had an opportunity to ask Obama a question and he took it. Doesn’t matter what his party affiliation is, he is still an American and represented a lot of small business owners who probably would have asked the same thing?

Those of you involved and consenting to digging up dirt on a single working father because he dared stand up for what he believed was right….well, all I can say is you reap what you sow. If this man loses his job because of the lamestream media and people like you, he should sue every last one of you until you have nothing left but your pitiful skins.
I don’t care if you’re for Obama or McCain, this is still free America, you have a right to believe what you want to believe, and not one of you have the right to attack this man and consent to deprive him of his job because he does not believe what you want him to believe.
If this is what life will be like under an Obama administration, expect to start seeing people you know disappearing into the gulags. And one day, it will be your turn.

The “liberal media” didn’t put “Joe the Plumber” in the media spotlight, John McCain did in last night’s debate.
“Joe the Plumber” himself has hardly shied away from center stage, spouting off his opinions on every subject under the sun to anyone who would put a camera in front of him.
Since he has been preaching his views on tax policy, the American public deserves to know that he’s failed to pay around $1,000.00 in taxes that he owes.

I get it “Bob the builder”, “Floyd the barber”, “Joe the plumber” and “John the failed presidential candidate”
Obamanation 08

Gee, it’s frightening how a lot of Americans are ignorant on Economy.
I don’t know for you guys but Economy is largely studied in Europe, Asia..since High school.
1- A tax cut is NOT WELFARE
2- A Tax cut does not mean spreading the wealth around. it means the government will take a bit less from the ones who can’t afford to pay more..and take a little more from people who can really afford it. NO ONE is GIVING MONEY FROM THE RICH TO THE POOR!
analogy:
3 glasses.
glass 1 is full at 1 third = poor people
glass 2 full = rich people
glass 3 is empty = the state
Now the state needs money to go to War (sthg US like to do), pay for roads building, airports, federal employees…etc.
What do we do to fill in the state’s glass? instead of taking the whole 1/3 of water in the poor people’s glass, we will leave them with their 1/3 of water so that they can drink and therefore live.
However we will ask the rich people to fill in the state’s glass a little because they have a full glass of water and they can still drink water after having given some of their water to the state.
Now the rich people understands that the poor people can not give their water because if they don’t have any water to drink, they can not live and buy stuff from rich people! they know that on the short term…they will give water and poor people won’t but then this relief will enable poor people to refill their glass and create some sort of balance.
So now:
Glass 1 poor people = 1/3 (we didn’t touch it)
Glass 2 rich people = half full (gave water but still rich)
Glass 3 the state = half full
later
Glass 1 poor people = half fool
Glass 2 rich people = full
Glass 3 state = half full (they still owe enormous debts to China, UK, Japan)
Galss number 2 is full again because poor people were able to buy, consume…etc and poor people could save a little thanks to the tax cut.
Simple analogy for simple minded People whot calls Socialism or Welfare a simple Economy formula.
There is no punishment, redistribution or communism in this. The money goes to the state so that everyone can function again.

‘Joe the lying plumber’ finally decides to come clean and correct. He now says: ” I would be receiving Obama’s tax cuts.”
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/17/joe-the-plumber-obama-cut/
It’s time for the American people to get it right and NOT vote for McCain-Palin, instead vote for change. It’s time for this country to turn the page and seek a new and better future for ourselves and our children.It’s time for REAL change in Washington, it’s time to elect Barack Obama for president !
Obama-Biden are the wiser and stronger team to solve the crucial challenges we have in this nation and abroad !

Just send me half of your paycheck and we can bypass the government. Thank you
(Will happen under Sen. Obamas plan of redistribution anyway.)

WOTDO, do you know a lot of salons gas stations, little restaurants that make more than 250K??? tell me where they are so that I can ask them how they do it? and who go and buy their clothes? who fill up their tanks to the full? who go and eat at the restaurants? because middle class people can’t afford to do that anymore
if the middle class does well= everyone does well.
oh and even if they did more than 250K only the surplus would be taxed! check it up!
also, how mccain is going to finance his program? he wants to lower tax for everyone? yeah right, that will raise US deficit and make us even more dependent on foreign countries.
We already have massive debts to China, UK and Japan!
it’s maths, simple.

OK Sabrina. Pretend you’re an average sized neighborhood restaurant. You serve 100 tables a day at an average of $40. That equals $4000/day. Let’s say you’re only open 6 days a week, that comes to 312 days at a total of $1,248,000 revenue per year. Depending on what your net profit is, you could easily be over the $250,000 range. The current tax rate is upwards of 40% for corporations and you want to take more?
And to answer your question on how we reduce debt, we start spending less. That is what you do in your own household, right? Basic economics – you tax businesses or individuals (and you WILL be taxed higher beginning January 1, 2011 regardless of your tax bracket) and they have less to invest and spend. Period. Less money to invest and spend equals a slowing economy, recession and then depression. You can’t tax your way out of it.

The moral of the story is not to question the government and especially the democrat messiah. Does this give evidence to the assertions that Obama will try to overturn the second amendment and gun ownership rights? The vote was close in the previous supreme court decision but liberal justice Kennedy made the decisive vote knowing it would have lead this country to civil war. A domestic militia is need in time of war. People should start stocking up before it is too late. Do not take freedom for granted. Just look to the history of Cuba.

Oh my! Joe the Plumber is so bad, good heavens you liberals…like you have a lot of room to bash:
Snopes.com has an interesting article on Obama’s newly rehabbed plane (by the way, it’s all over the news about how bad it smells inside, he probably should have it rehabbed inside too) — the problem I see is that he removed the American Flag and put his silly campaign symbol on it…why does he have such a problem with the American Flag? In my opinion he doesn’t respect our country nor our flag, and as his wife has stated to millions of American’s “this is the first time in my life that I am proud of America” WHAT???!!! And are you only proud now because your husband is running for the highest position?
Poor Barack, just like Glenn Beck said, he is the unluckiest man…could have had any woman, afterall, he’s not all that bad looking, and then he marries Michelle, and recently finds out she doesn’t like America. Then he sits in a church for 20 years and finds out that his reverend, who is like family to him, is a racist and hates America, damn, that’s two people in his close circle that he just didn’t have a clue about….then, again he is unlucky, he could have his campaign kick-off just about anywhere, there are nice reception halls, nice podiums, churches, resort convention rooms, and there are 100 thousand home-grown terrorists, and over 300 Million people in the world, and darn it…he happens to pick the guy in his neighborhood whom he claims he barely knows and kicks off his campaign in his living room, and this guy is William Ayres, bombed the pentagon…but unlucky Obama didn’t know! Ayres is not sorry for the bombings o f the Pentagon and Capital and Judge’s house….he is only remorseful that he “didn’t do enough” as he claimed just recently.
Only in America…does a person get off on a technicality for this type of criminal – terrorist act, and then, have the opportunity to land a job as professor in a college … sounds to me like he ALSO has the gift of a silver tongue. This guy Ayres isn’t dumb (a dummy wouldn’t get this far, this guy is smart, he’s a con, ol’ Bill Ayres, Barack’s friend, such a good guy now) … Wow…this is beginning to make sense to many people. Word of warning, be careful who you vote for…you could be voting for someone that may not be what you think they are — they come in at the right time, with the right words, with charisma and likability, saying things that most think they want to hear, and like I’ve said before, they have the gift of the silver tongue.
Reminds me of the con-artist I once knew…could talk his way into anything…strong smooth voice, great speaking ability, sharp mind, great way with people, and then they turn out to be this horrendous person that one would never guess–and I wondered after the terrible things he did…what really was his background? Oh yes, I remember how clever he was to be able to escape the questions….deja vue. Laugh…it sounds funny, paranoid maybe…but, I’d trust McCain over Hussein Obama in a heartbeat.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/airplane.asp

Rollingstone huh? Need I say anymore.

Capitalism vs Socialism
The top 5% of earners pay 60% of the federal taxes as of now. I’d say they are paying their “fair share” already. No need to make them pay more.
Guess what? Not much will change with either candidate as president. This boils down to people arguing over economic principles: socialism vs capitalism. In the end, socialism is perceived as the ‘politically correct’ choice, so we will go there eventually. Although capitalism is what created this great country.
Oh and one other comment: Obama wishes to restore the world’s opinion of the US. Ask yourself this: which countries are morally superior to the US?

nycperson…to answer your question:
“Ask yourself this: which countries are morally superior to the US? ”
Well…no offense but US have to stop thinking they are leading the world, because they are clearly not.
about 75% of the countries in the world are “morally” superior to the US.
Get a passport and travel…you’ll see for yourself and be ashamed when you get back to the US.

Sabrina, please describe to me what specific actions those countries (75% of them) are doing to make them morally superior to the US. When i say morally superior i am referring to domestic and international affairs. I am not saying that the US is the moral authority. I am saying that most countries have no right to judge the US since they lack moral superiority.
I sense that you have elitist tendencies. You’re assumptions are wrong. I have a passport. I have traveled the world. I know lots of people from other countries. I work with them on a day to day basis.
Here are some observations i have made:
-The US has very little racism compared to the rest of the world. France is pretty bad. Japan is brutal. There is of course a spectrum. Let’s not even begin to discuss Africa. Or Mexico. Or so many other countries where ethnic cleansing is occurring right now.
-Most countries do nothing about international affairs and look to the US to intervene. Then if anything goes wrong, we are vilified.
-Our biggest enemies have the most immoral governments. One example: look at the way women are treated in many of these countries.
-The UN is a joke. Veto power from China and Russia. Are those countries moral? Please describe to me the acts that make them morally superior to the US.
-Our prison system is like ClubMed compared to most countries.
-Some nations really do like Americans. It’s a myth that the world hates us. I have seen it first hand. I will say that in Europe, it is considered “cool” to put down America. And saying that capitalism is evil is quite chic.

A-hem. Joe the Plumber does NOT, despite popular belief, pay his taxes. He’s rich, making 200,000 a year, and still does not adhere to the law? This just shows that Old McCain is getting desperate. Joe the Plumber is RICHER than the average American, but is still gonna be safe if McCain becomes Pres! However, Obama is LOWERING TAXES for 81% of American citizens. Now, tell me, who should you support, Joe the RICH Plumber or Homo Americana, the Average American?
Yes, I’m supporting ThatOne. ThatOne who does not support negative ads. ThatOne who is lied about by the Oldie. ThatOne who is righteous and acknowledges the rights of the next generation. ThatOne who is right.
Yes, I’m supporting ThatOne. And ThatOne is Obama!
~~~~~gObama~~~~~