Biden on Debate: I’ll Be ‘Disappointed’ If McCain Brings Up Ayers
ABC News’ Matt Jaffe Reports: For the first time in five weeks, Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., Tuesday fielded questions from his traveling press corps, applauding Republican candidate John McCain for standing up to some of the "attitude" expressed by GOP supporters at rallies and denouncing the Republicans for "over the top" ads.
"I was proud that John decided to take on some of the attitude that was expressed at one of his campaign rallies and I hope he keeps it up," Biden said, referencing McCain’s attempt to temper the fervor of his supporters at a Minnesota rally last week.
Continued Biden, "In my view, the ads that are being run picturing Barack Obama and people saying ‘known terrorist’ — I think that’s over the top."
As he continued his two-day bus tour across the Buckeye State stopping at Lisbon’s Steel Trolley Diner for lunch, Biden said "Barack Obama was eight years old when this guy Ayers was doing bad things."
Biden says he knows about Ayers but has never met him and pushed back on the notion that the former sixties radical could be classified under the general perception of terrorist. I think the average person looks out there and sees this guy who they say is a known terrorist, and I think they – the vast majority of the American people associate terrorism with, you know, radical Islamic groups and al Qaeda. I just think it’s – I think it’s over the top."
The Democratic vice-presidential nominee frequently notes that he considers Republican candidate Sen. John McCain a good friend, even while criticizing GOP ads that attack Sen. Barack Obama’s character and background.
McCain is aware that Biden disapproves of the GOP’s campaign tactics, the Delaware lawmaker said, even though the two senators have not seen each other since a September 11 service forum in New York City.
"I know John knows my views," Biden said, indicating his believe that voters will look past political attacks to focus on the issues at hand.
"They want to know what is John McCain, what is Barack Obama going to do to change their circumstance? What is it gonna do?," Biden said. "All through Ohio here, people are losing jobs. Their homes are being foreclosed on. The people who aren’t having their homes foreclosed on, they’re looking at the nest egg they had and the equity in their home drying up. And they want to know what we’re going to do."
Crediting former president Bill Clinton, Biden paraphrased "all campaigns are about tomorrow, not yesterday."
Continued Biden, "I think that’s what people want to know. And I think when you don’t talk about those things, when you don’t lay out, when you spend more time talking about your opponent than you do what you’re going to do, then I think it’s fairly transparent."
Biden said he felt "good" about tomorrow’s debate, expressing "total confidence" in Obama.
Biden warned that he would be "disappointed" to see McCain bring up Ayers in Wednesday’s third and final debate, though McCain has threatened to do so in response to Obama’s suggestion that the Republican candidate doesn’t have the guts to raise the issue to his face.
All Obama has to do, Biden says, is "repeat the performance he’s had the last two times out."
Biden said the debates have contrasted "a guy who’s confident and steady and a guy who’s not quite sure of where he wants to take the country."
The traveling press corps was satiated by Biden’s Q&A, but the senator was still hungry for his lunch, ending the brief session with "I’m looking for my cheeseburger here."
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Does McCain have the guts to tell Americans what his proposal of “A one-year spending pause. Freeze non-defense, non-veterans discretionary spending for a year and use those savings for deficit reduction.” really means?
No Funds For:
Breast Cancer Research
Hurricane Forecasting
Biomedical Research
National Parks
6 Million students receiving Pell Grants for College
Infrastructure investment and repairs
Early Childhood Education
Unemployment Benefits
Food Stamps
Energy Assistance
and on and on and on……
Posted by: Paige | October 14, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
The media has still not asked Joe about Wabmu yet?
Posted by: geevill | October 14, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
Be prepared to be disappointed them Sen. Biden. Because your old friend is more concerned with himself than with issues.
He’ll bring up Ayers alright. He’ll keep slinging mud and telling lies.
That is what people from the other side of that aisle do when they are out on the trail. He’s gone so far down that the light of honor and respect can’t be seen anymore.
I’m sorry to say this, but your friend John McCain is gone. All that’s left is Candidate McCain. And gone to is any respect for anyone else but himself.
Posted by: Greg in MN | October 14, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
I’ll be disappointed if he doesn’t.
Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | October 14, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
Biden is stupid.
Posted by: Walter | October 14, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
Obama’s people will do anything to suppress discussion about Obama’s past. Obama’s dirty laundry needs to be ‘Ayer’-ed out!
Posted by: tina | October 14, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
If he does, it will most likely be the final nail in his campaign. Given the fact that McCain in his past has had his hands in so many dirty pies, his rather long laundry list of questionable associations would be fair game as a rebuttal. I doubt McCain wants a lot of those past actions and associations brought which pale in comparison, particularly this close to election day and as far behind as he is. And I’m sure Obama has the list ready, just in case.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 14, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
John McCain is a shell of his former self. He has sold his soul to the Republican “extremists” who will lie, cheat, and spread hatred to stay in power. Poor McCain has gone to the “Dark Side”. Very sad ending to an American hero. I hope history will remember him for all the positive contributions he has made before this election campaign.
Posted by: Joe | October 14, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
The lefties are praying that McCain won’t bring up William Ayers on National TV. It will be wonderful to watch Osama Obama try and lie his way out without que cards. I can’t wait!
Posted by: Steve | October 14, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
Maybe he can bring up Jessie Jackson’s recent interview while in France, which was posted in todays NY Post! Wonder how many people in Florida would be interested in the below? According to Mr. Jackson..
The most important change would occur in the Middle East, where “decades of putting Israel’s interests first” would end.
Jackson believes that, although “Zionists who have controlled American policy for decades” remain strong, they’ll lose a great deal of their clout when Barack Obama enters the White House.
“Barack is determined to repair our relations with the world of Islam and Muslims,” Jackson says.
Posted by: chuck | October 14, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
Yes please bring it up Senator McCain!!! Do what the base wants you to do please!! You can expose Obama, and this is your last chance…
Well, on the other hand, it is the third debate; and I doubt that anyone watching hasn’t already heard about Ayers. So in reality, this will look desperate. And it wont have an effect anyway, as Obama is going to brush it off and McCain will be visually pissed.
This is a political trick that Obama, Biden, and us as supporters call the “Bait and Bury”. We don’t throw the first punch, but we will throw the last.
Posted by: PoliticsAsUsual | October 14, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
http://www.obamamccainbidenpalin.info
LOL
Posted by: scott | October 14, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
Oh yea, and Chuck;
funny how now all of a sudden you all actually give a d@mn about what Jesse Jackson has to say. When Obama wasn’t on the scene, you all hated Jesse…Now you give him credibility. Your comment, disregarded!
Posted by: PoliticsAsUsual | October 14, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
Casper MCchicken doesn’t have the big enough marbles down low to challenge that one, especially on Ayers.
However, both Obama and Biden are sort of egging McChicken on to do so as Obama must have a can of whoop a** so big that McCain is going to wish he never ran against “THAT ONE” at all.
Obama knows exactly what he’s doing and after McCain talked a little smack about what he’s going to do in the debates, HE’S NOW s******* his pants worrying about if he does, what will “THAT ONE” do?
That alone McChicken will not take a chance on.
POTUS OBAMA – b**** SLAPPING THE GOP
Posted by: Nat Turner | October 14, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
Well I hope that Barack is determined to repair our relations with the world of Islam and Muslims. We’ve certainly ruined our reputation and created ourselves as something of a monster who hates the arab world.
They’re part of it, too, people.
Posted by: Leighann | October 14, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
JACKSON ON OBAMA’S AMERICA
PREPARE for a new America: That’s the message that the Rev. Jesse Jackson conveyed to participants in the first World Policy Forum, held at this French lakeside resort last week.
He promised “fundamental changes” in US foreign policy – saying America must “heal wounds” it has caused to other nations, revive its alliances and apologize for the “arrogance of the Bush administration.”
The most important change would occur in the Middle East, where “decades of putting Israel’s interests first” would end.
Jackson believes that, although “Zionists who have controlled American policy for decades” remain strong, they’ll lose a great deal of their clout when Barack Obama enters the White House.
“Obama is about change,” Jackson told me in a wide-ranging conversation. “And the change that Obama promises is not limited to what we do in America itself. It is a change of the way America looks at the world and its place in it.”
Jackson warns that he isn’t an Obama confidant or adviser, “just a supporter.” But he adds that Obama has been “a neighbor or, better still, a member of the family.” Jackson’s son has been a close friend of Obama for years, and Jackson’s daughter went to school with Obama’s wife Michelle.
READ FULL STORY
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10142008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/the_o_jesse_knows_133450.htm?page=0
Posted by: Real Story | October 14, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
Paige – Freezing govt spending means keeping it at the same level, no increase for inflation, etc. It doesn’t mean a cut.
Posted by: Spd | October 14, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
Obama has set a trap for McCain… I hate you Repiglican pieces of garbage, I really do. I am having a good time watching you pieces of crap head right into history’s dustbin.
http://www.savagerun.com
Posted by: Gerald Clough | October 14, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
No I actually liked it when Jessie said he wanted to “cut Obama’s Nu*s off” remember that a few months back? Poor Jessie had to come out and say he was sorry he was caught on mic saying it! Fact is Jessie does not like Obama, but maybe this was Jessie’s way of trying to cut his “Nu*s” off without actually doing it!
Posted by: chuck | October 14, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
Everything about McCain – Please spend 2 min-
THE STRAIGHT EXPRESS
http://therealmccain.com/
Posted by: John Drew | October 14, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
NAT TURNER, GET OUT OF YOUR MOM’S BASEMENT AND GET A JOB YOU LOST PIECE OF CRAP
Posted by: Ted Nugent | October 14, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
I donot understand why Biden or any other democrats have to suggest McCain as to how he should run his campaign. If McCain continues his tecniques, he will definitely sink. The democrat should let him do the crap that he has been doing for days and see him going down.
Posted by: jt | October 14, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
When the democrats start applauding the republican campaign, then we know that we’re in real trouble. They’re such hypocrites. If Barak Obama was a republican with the same background, he would have been totally excoriated in the press.
Posted by: Night Guy | October 14, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
Have been thinking on a couple things.
How did Ayers’s “working group” get approved by Annenberg, a big R? Distance from project and the filter of academia…go read reports on the Annenberg Challenge and tell me if you can tell what they actually did…all they do is cloak action in academic terms…I can only imagine it was more difficult to tell what they intended to do before they actually did it.
So, Gregorian gets a proposal (he is a big academic, too) and it has all kinds of great language like “Partners” and “decentralization” and “parent involvement” etc., which means??? until it is put in practice. Sounds good though, right?
In practice, the Challenge created “partnerships” with schools that were dominated by “activist” “community organizing” groups that focused on identity and radical politics rather than education.
Reports from the Challenge talk about how much “institutional learning” and other things went on, and eventually report how nothing was achieved…
BUT, something was achieved! It is a bit like a b-movie…
Don’t you sometimes wonder how a particular movie got made, it was so bad? Sure, it gets bad reviews and makes no money, but everyone who worked on it gets paid and can pad their resumes.
Same thing here. What people often fail to see as a factor in the academic world and the “organizing” world is that self-interest is at play big time. Ayers and friends get to try to get their version of “change” in the schools, disguising it as something that might actually help. Then, whether it succeeds or fails, they can say, “we learned a lot”…meanwhile, they all get cushy salaries as board members and “organizers” and get to say that they were associated with this prestigious foundation, tout their supposed public service credentials, etc.
Meanwhile, the schools stay the same…bad, but more “enlightened” about “relevance” and “grass roots” change, etc.
See above for blueprint of Obama’s presidency…a lot of academic discussions about change that sound pretty good, but very little gets accomplished. Also, the demand for change, even if not everything needs it…
Obama will get paid and get the ultimate pad for his resume, that’s for sure. And so will all his friends in academia, who will drool at the chance to shift fed money to pet projects that accomplish little.
Posted by: Wade | October 14, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
well chuck i have been saying that forever. our support of israel and their illegal suppression of rights (among many other israeli misdeeds ) are the EXACT REASON all the muslims in the world are against us.
we need to let israel know that the days of them doing whatever they want and calling for our help when all the arabs come for them ARE OVER!! until they can act reasonably and fairly and according to international law,as far as i am concerned israel is an outlaw nation whose overt support by the usa hurts our national interests in many more ways than it helps ,which begs the questions: 1)why the hell are we spending all that $$ on aid to one of the richest nations per capita on earth and 2) what does the usa ,as a non religious government get out of backing israel? these questions shouldve been asked along time ago and 9/11 might not have happened.
screw israel and their land grabbing facist government. they could care less about anyone but themselves. pffft on them ,we need to disassociate our selves with the israeli government until they begin to show some 21st century ideals , not this zionism b/s.
THIS american taxpayer is all formuch much less israeli support from any us administration ,UNTIL israel starts acting like a nation of compassionate human beings seeking peace and fairness.
Posted by: bah | October 14, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
Keating 5.
Posted by: Bill | October 14, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
McCain is afraid to bring up Ayers (or any of the other sleaze) to Obama’s face because he knows what would happen; the counterpunch deftly blocking the blow and turning it back on the aggressor. Obama has done it again and again, turning a “weakness” into a strength (see rev Wright or Farrakhan from the primary, or foreign policy in the first McCain debate).
There is no need to bring up Keating; simply refuting the Ayers smear makes McCain look dishonest and petty, should he dare to go there (prediction: he won’t).
Posted by: Frank | October 14, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
So, when it was Obama v HRC, Clinton’s pardon of the Weathermen (who didn’t kill anyone) was another bad/suspect Clinton decision. Now that it’s Obama v McCain, no one should be held responsible for their association w/a group that did actually place bombs and kill people. Nice trick.
Posted by: WUB | October 14, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
He should bring up NAFTA instead. Obambi blew a gasket over it during the primaries, but Biden voted for it. Just goes to show that the Canadian official who said Obama was just lying over NAFTA was RIGHT!
Posted by: Angry Black Democrat | October 14, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
I suspect McCain will bring it up.
He and Palin are full of NO CLASS!
They will do anything even lie and
cheat their way into the White House
they are a disgrace. Full of Hatred
and Angry. Geez, what a wonderful
pair these two are to run the country.
By the way Palin is so very happy that
her son is in Iraq. She is a pathetic
mother. I feel sorry for her son.
She forced him into the military and
now she doesn’t even feel even a little
sorrow for him. I saw her rally where
I thought she was going jump up and down
with such happiness. Yep!! these
two are evil and they love wars!!!!
Posted by: Susie | October 14, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
McCain’s “OL’ GEEZER EXPRESS” has run out of straight-talk and the wheels are falling off:
MCCAIN HAS AN ABUSIVE TEMPER AND PALIN ABUSES POWER.
PALIN IS BUSTED. SHE IS CONFIRMED AS HAVING ABUSED PERSONAL POWER IN HER GOVERNOR’S OFFICE. VIOLATED ETHICS. PERIOD. WHAT PART OF THIS DON’T PEOPLE UNDERSTAND?
The finding of Palin’s guilt in abuse of executive power speaks worlds about John McCain’s lack of judgment. But of course he admitted he had only met her personally ONE TIME before he selected her–was it with the other Joe Six-Pack’s at a bar, and he decided to take her with him? Who knows, there are not even any pictures of him meeting with her before he selected the LUV GUV!
She’s no longer a pitbull, but has to go back to being a sleddog —….As the ol’ song says: You go North to Alaska, you go North perhaps you know, ….way up North….North to Alaska…. — RIGHT NOW PLEASE!
No longer a pitbull, but looking like a weasel–a little ol’ mavericky weasel-you betcha!
It’ll be painless when we become Mccainless and palinless…
Let’s put Obama and Biden to work for all America, and let’s do it now!!
Posted by: Benighse | October 14, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
Hey Steve, here’s hoping “Osama Obama” shatters the very fibre of McSame/”Stalin Palin”‘s being.
And I sure have never heard of a que card before, although it is I suppose possible that Obama was a “que” or member of Omega Psi Phi.
Perhaps you merely want to identify with the candidates most like yourself — after all, McCain graduated at the bottom of his class, and Palin dropped out of five colleges in as many years… in pursuit of a journalism degree. McCain is a divorced admitted philanderer. And Palin has clearly done a great job with her kids, what with their drug dealing, pregnancy et al.
Get a clue. Obama’s not an Arab, he’s not a terrorist, he doesn’t hate America, and he probably hates Jessie Jackson as a majority of black people do.
The funny thing is I don’t even like Obama, and I sure won’t vote for him, but your ignorance is appalling.
Posted by: matt | October 14, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
White supremecy is on it’s perverbial deathbed being read it’s last rites.
Cynical white Americans who have been pulling plugs of hair from their heads due to their insecurities with Obama out-thinking, out-flanking, out-debating and out-classing Casper McCain have now realized in the past several weeks that McChicken doesn’t have a porkchop’s chance in a piranha tank of even coming close to POTUS.
In fact, it will be a Ouji Board Miracle of unheard proportions if McCain gets 190 electoral votes.
Cmon, SING ALONG WITH ME!
Row row row your boats gently to DEFEEEAT!
Merrily merrily merrily merrily, all the CROW you can EEEEEEEEEEEAT!
Cry now, move to Alaska or kill yourselves November 4th.
Posted by: Nat Turner | October 14, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
Great Cartoon – Someone in My Neigborhood
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=77938
Posted by: KH | October 14, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
talk about it all – Acorn, Keating 5, Ayers, Wright, Rezko, NAFTA – just don’t talk about the other problems and I am a repub.
Posted by: jamescbuilder | October 14, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
With or without Ayers, Mr. Obama is the same fake candidate – the one who promises everything but produce nothing, the one who says one thing with one group but say a different thing to another, the self-made liar and hyprocrite from all angles.
Posted by: young_voter | October 14, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
Obama = The Man Who Never Was
By: William Ayers
Posted by: KH | October 14, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm
geri dear..NO ONE really cares what you think as you are just a gram..err grain of sand in obama’s kitty liter box..waiting for obama to relieve his constitution when he is sworn in.. face it gerald, your the king of the compost heap and already getting use to the smell….
Posted by: socalvoter | October 14, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
Obama, the creative African Wolf Spider has spun a web so transparent that the stupid, directionless and impulsive cockroach McCain doesn’t realize a trap when he sees one.
This is a classic example of using what your enemy thinks is his strength, (McCain’s Ego) which is actually his weakness, to lure him into a political ambush that will surely finish him off.
Heeeeeeeeeeere cockroach. Come a little closer…
POTUS OBAMA – IT’S A LOCK!!!
Posted by: Nat Turner | October 14, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
Great Quote from Americas Right Blog
http://www.americasright.com/
A great American named Samuel Adams once said, “if ever a time should come when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.”
Posted by: KH | October 14, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
The public need to know who Obama is. I want McCain to bring up this issue. Don’t blame McCain and GOP. It was Hilary’s team who brought this (Ayer and Pastor Wright) in the first place. It was NY Times who warm this again.
Watch Hilary’s recent interview, pretending like she didn’t know anything about it.No matter how much she says I’m totally behind Obama, I doubted that she will vote for him.
Posted by: DHK | October 14, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
Reality Check on Ayers
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/13/eveningnews/realitycheck/main4518056.shtml?source=mostpop_story
Posted by: snoodle | October 14, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
Mark my words, Obama is going to increase your taxes. Remember when Clinton swore up and down he would not increase taxes, what did he do in the very first 1-2 months of taking office??? Do you seriously not think Obama is going to do this? How is he going to afford his almost $1 Trillion in spending?????
Posted by: UnPoliticallyCorrect2008 | Oct 14, 2008 5:21:53 PM
Posted by: d0 | October 14, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
Isn’t it ironic to hear McCain supporters call Obama the lier, when it is the GOP and former supporters who are now trying to distance themselves from him and the campaign he is running. Even Florida governor Charlie Crist, a long time McCain supporter who helped McCain win Florida in the primaries is now distancing himself from McCain and his campaign of attacks.
As Time magazine recently wrote:
“McCain’s lies have ranged from the annoying to the sleazy, and the problem is in both degree and kind. His campaign has been a ceaseless assault on his opponent’s character and policies, featuring a consistent—and witting—disdain for the truth. Even after 38 million Americans heard Obama say in his speech at the Democratic National Convention that he was open to offshore oil-drilling and building new nuclear-power plants, McCain flatly said in his acceptance speech that Obama opposed both. Normal political practice would be for McCain to say, “Obama says he’s ‘open to’ offshore drilling, but he’s always opposed it. How can we believe him?” This persistence in repeating demonstrably false charges is something new in presidential politics.”
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1842030,00.html
And as McCain said himself back in 2000:
“I just have to rely on the good judgment of the voters not to buy into these negative attack ads. Sooner or later, people are going to figure out if all you run is negative attack ads you don’t have much of a vision for the future or you’re not ready to articulate it.”
[The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer, 2/21/2000]
Posted by: Concerned American | October 14, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
Spd – Even though you’re right about what a spending freeze is, McCain said in the last debate that by spending freeze, he was cutting off programs not related to defense and veteran’s affairs, go check it out on the internet, since this site won’t let me mention other sites.
If McCain’s got any sense left, he’ll talk about the issues of our time and not about a rehabilitated, former domestic terrorist who’s now a college professor. The last thing McCain wants is Obama to call him out on his past on live national TV. McCain would flip and we would get to see that crazy old man side of McCain.
And on top of it all, I’ve never been so disappointed in my fellow American Citizen as I am when I watch those McCain supporters talking about Obama. He’s not a terrorist, he’s a US senator for christ sakes. He’s not a Muslim, he’s a CHRISTIAN, Rev. Wright??? Hello? He’s not ARAB, He’s a United States CITIZEN, if he wasn’t he could NOT run for the presidency. These are our fellow country men and women, ladies and gents, and we can no longer stand for such unfounded ignorance. It makes us all look stupid.
Posted by: Chris | October 14, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
SPD- With no adjustments for inflation, he will have to cut. That is exactly why McCain needs to explain it.
Posted by: Paige | October 14, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
Obama, the creative African Wolf Spider has spun a web so transparent that the stupid, directionless and impulsive cockroach McCain doesn’t realize a trap when he sees one.
This is a classic example of using what your enemy thinks is his strength, (McCain’s Ego) which is actually his weakness, to lure him into a political ambush that will surely finish him off.
Heeeeeeeeeeere cockroach. Come a little closer…PLEASE BRING IT UP! They’ll have to scape him off of the floor with a spatchula when B Rock’s finished with him. ALL WITH A SMILE ON HIS FACE.
Classic!
POTUS OBAMA – IT’S A LOCK!!!
Posted by: Nat Turner | October 14, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
Ayres? Who cares? An intelligent and courageous person ought to be willing to listen to all views face-to-face. What matters are the resulting judgments made. It is hard to see how the country would gain with a president and vp who are close minded. The McCain ticket looks like the Ticket to Nowhere for moderate voters like me because the only message I am hearing them put any passion behind is “Look at me! I’m close minded and I think you are too! Let’s divide the country together.”
Posted by: Honest Tea | October 14, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
Bravo Joe! Palin wouldn’t be caught dead holding a press conference….
Posted by: Rodger | October 14, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
It is indeed sad that Senator Biden thinks that a man who organized and financially supported a group that was responsible for 25 bombings and 5 deaths is a “NICE GUY”. Bill Ayers was and is an evil man and was never punished or apologize for his actions.
Senator Obama had a volunteer relationship with this “terrorist” for 7 years. Senator Biden is simply repeating the same lies and distortions as Obama. Sad but true.
Posted by: Mary | October 14, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
Wow..you can’t use Obamas middle name, you can’t mention his terrorist friends, you can’t mention his felon friends, you can’t mention his racist pastor.
Obama isn’t a MAN, he’s a little girl.
Posted by: Jack | October 14, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
It is not that you can’t use Obama’s middle name.. the question is why would you?? When you say John McCain or Sarah Palin do you include their middle name? NO… so why would you want to include Obama’s?
Posted by: beck | October 14, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
As long as Biden and the Clintons will be on the east coast on Sunday, perhaps they can meet with Ayres/Dohrn and go on a guided tour of the D.C. buildings they bombed.
Posted by: Jack | October 14, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
Perhaps Joe Biden can get an autographed flag from Ayres/Dohrn. One that they’ve stomped on. Old Joe would truly appreciate that.
Posted by: Jack | October 14, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm
– Bill Ayers was and is an evil man and was never punished or apologize for his actions. –
Thank you Mary, We will be sure not to vote for Ayers in November. Fortunately, that will not be a problem since, at least here, he isn’t even on the ticket.
Last I checked, the Presidential race was between Barack Hussein Obama II and John Sidney McCain III.
And you see Jack, nobody said you can’t use Obamas middle name!
Posted by: Concerned American | October 14, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm
Ahh..there goes Joe again..Ayres wasn’t a terrorist because all terrorists are Islamic. ROFL..the man is a dolt.
Posted by: Jack | October 14, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
d0,
Obama can’t destroy the US economy – the Republicans have already done that! Do you live under a rock?
Posted by: Donna Hughes | October 14, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
Old Joe Biden speaks politics with people in a restaurant that closed 20 years ago.
Geez..I thought only Ted Kennedy was that out of it. Old Joe Biden..political loon.
Posted by: Jack | October 14, 2008, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
Not only does he need to bring up Ayers, he needs to bring up Acorn, Wright, and this issue about Osama not wanting to show his birth certificate. He doesn’t want America to know and that is why they always sweeping it under the rug!!!!He needs to show all of America who OSAMA really is!!!!!
Posted by: GO MCCAIN | October 14, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
I thought only Obama thought he was the “messiah”. But Old Joe thinks he can work miracles and heal the wheelchair bound lame.
Posted by: Jack | October 14, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
Is Obama trying to brainwash children in schools with the help of a publisher/supporter? I think thisis something every parent needs to see…
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2008/10/14/obama-pushed-our-kids-lit-textbook
Posted by: mary | October 14, 2008, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
Jack and Jill, errrrrrr Mary
Went up the hill to fetch some lies and rhetoric
Jack fell down, Mary frowned.
McCain was BLOWN OUT IN THE election.
Waaaaaaaaaaah! sniffle, sniffle, sniffle*
“THAT ONE” drank both of our milkshakes!
POTUS OBAMA
(With competition like McChicken, victory is ever so easy)
Posted by: Nat Turner | October 14, 2008, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
Your running for president Osama, so tell the truth the whole truth and
nothing but the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!
McCain/Palin 08
Posted by: Joey | October 14, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
I hope that McCain does bring up the Ayers thing tomorrow night at the debate, and that Barack has a really good answer that he has been saving for just such a moment, which is likely.
Then McCain will be no hits, no balls, and no Ay-ers!
HAAAAAHAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
Posted by: Donna Hughes | October 14, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
Maybe McCain can get an endorsement ad for Obama by asking Vera Baker who she supports.
Posted by: Jack | October 14, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
Old Joe has been slamming McCain pretty steadily these last few weeks and he “will be disappointed if McCain brings up Ayers”????
Go for it John, and don’t stop with Ayers – bring up all the questions we want answered by Obama: ACORN, Ayers, Rezko, Farrakhan, the Wrong Rev. Wright, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Khalidi, birth certificate, Larry Sinclair, lack of senatorial records, education records and medical records – no more free passes for The Tainted One.
As far as Keating Five goes, DO bring it up, after all, three of the five have endorsed Obama.
PUMA!
Posted by: LeeLee07 | October 14, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm
Obama, the creative African Wolf Spider has spun a web so transparent that the stupid, directionless and impulsive cockroach McCain doesn’t realize a trap when he sees one.
This is a classic example of using what your enemy thinks is his strength, (McCain’s Ego) which is actually his weakness, to lure him into a political ambush that will surely finish him off.
Heeeeeeeeeeere cockroach. Come a little closer…PLEASE BRING IT UP! They’ll have to scape him off of the floor with a spatchula when B Rock’s finished with him. ALL WITH A SMILE ON HIS FACE.
Classic!
POTUS OBAMA – IT’S A LOCK!!!
Posted by: Nat Turner | October 14, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
Why does ABC, as well as the other pro-Obama networks keep bringing up Biden.
Biden has shown he’s an idiot. is “huge” crowds are like 30 people. He’s actually kind of pathetic.
Posted by: Jack | October 14, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
LeeLee..don’t forget Obamas girlfriend. The one he’s paying off and living in the Caribbean. Vera Baker
Posted by: Jack | October 14, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
Gee. John McCain. Consorting with Enemy Agent Bill Timmons by appointing him head of the McCain Transition Team. You know–Bill Timmons: lobbyist for Saddam Hussein.
This whole Ayres thing is ridiculous.
Why is it that Republicans feel they cannot win an election without trashing their opponents?
And what is it about Republican voters that they actually buy in to this garbage? What has happened to the democracy envisioned by John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, and James Madison?
I am sad for my country.
Posted by: Yodacohen | October 14, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
Poor LeeLee,
If only McChicken had the marbles down low needed to not be so intimidated by “THAT ONE” who has continuously out-thinked, out-flanked, out-debated and out-classed him, he would be just like you.
Well, the both of you will have one thing in common come November 4th.
You’ll both be in the losers column for the highest office in the land.
B Rock is going to make history with McCain as the placemat before entry. At least McCain will be apart of history, right?
POTUS OBAMA – IT’S A LOCK!!
Posted by: Nat Turner | October 14, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
Geez..the Bush family spent years cleaning up the stains in the Oval Office from Bill and his blue dress friend. Now we might get Obama and his “friend” re-staining it.
Posted by: Jack | October 14, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
The soldiers fighting and dying in Iraq and Afghanistan for all of our rights run the spectrum of ethnicity, race, sex, and political affiliation. Everyone would seem to agree that they are all patriots. If you disagree, tell me why and which one’s aren’t? Why would anyone supporting the troops even remotely suggest that they are afraid to vote for someone that is a different color or sex than they are? Any answers?
Posted by: BSL | October 14, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
Obama’s could simply respond: “Senator McCain, Using your logic, Bob Scheiffer and myself would be guilty of bad judgement in the Keating 5 ethics violations matter simply because we are on the same stage with you. But then again, It wasnt your associate who did that, was it? It was you. And of course, It wasn’t your associate who revealed the entire flight inventory of the Forrestal to Hanoi, or showed them the flight paths into North vietman. It was you. And it wasnt your associate who gave so much information to Hanoi that their fellow prisoners named them ‘Songbird’, was it? It was you. And it wasnt your associate who said they would place the architect of the current economic meltdown; “Phil Gramm’ as secretary of the treasury. It was you. So, if you are done with all this guilt by association McCarthyism, We do have some economic issues to solve,
Posted by: Steve | October 14, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
Obama has said time and time again that the cynics would pull out all stops to prevent the change that’s coming from happening.
In essence, I have my popcorn and buttermilk ready for McCain to have ONE LAST GAFF MAXIMUS before the election. He’s overdue! His pattern is usually 2 a week.
Ohhhhh, cynics. I would feel bad too if I only had one dimensional tools when 3 dimensional tools are required to get the job done.
POTUS OBAMA – Neanderthals Will Be Outsourced
Posted by: Nat Turner | October 14, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
If Obama does win in November, will someone explain to him that Old Glory with 50 stars really is correct and South Iowa,
North Oklahoma, West Oregon, New Wisconsin and New Florida really aren’t states.
Posted by: Jack | October 14, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
Hey Jack.
ABC brought up Joe Biden because he is running for Vice President of the United States. The people of Delaware have re-elected him to the Senate 5 times. World leaders express their respect for him. You’ll hear him addressed very shortly as Vice President-Elect. He will be a heartbeat away from the presidency. THAT might possibly be why the press is paying some attention to him. Yuh think? Duh.
I’ve always noticed how idiots call people idiots.
Oh, and about the rumors your are trying to gin up. Are you a Christian? Do you want the 10 commandments posted in public buildings in violation of the Constitution as interpreted by the courts? Well if you are so perfect and holy, why don’t you read and memorize the 9th commandment. “Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.” Know what that means? Don’t be lying and making up defaming stuff about other people. If you do these things in life, some day you’ll regret it.
Posted by: yodacohen | October 14, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
57 states…must be ebonics U.S. geography
Posted by: Jack | October 14, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm
Jack,
Why do they keep covering Palin? She can’t even answer the question, “What publications do you read?” I guess she thinks that is a “Got-cha question!
One Biden is worth more than all of you Republicans put together. Joe Biden is the People’s Champion!
Posted by: Donna Hughes | October 14, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm
– Why is it that Republicans feel they cannot win an election without trashing their opponents? –
Because they know they can’t win on merits.. there is a reason Bush was not invited to the RNC and why he is not campaigning for McCain.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 14, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm
Just listen to Jack from Barnum and Bailey. Isn’t he hilarious? Awwwww, so funny!
Bufoonery won’t get you or McCain any closer to the miracle McChicken is going to need just to get 180 electoral votes.
Man, MCCHICKEN IS GOING TO GET SMASHED.
Keep up the jokes, though.
The Head Clown job is a lock for you.
POTUS OBAMA – Clowns know IT’S A LOCK!
Posted by: Nat Turner | October 14, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
Hey Yoda…That was the DEM whining about
the John Edwards story. How did THAT one turn out?
Posted by: Jack | October 14, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
What else can you do with trash?
Posted by: bombem | October 14, 2008, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm
Donna..Joe Biden is a gaffe prone DOLT.
If you respect his opinion…his opinion was that Obama wasn’t experienced enough to be President. So was he right, or a liar?
Posted by: Jack | October 14, 2008, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm
Yes, McCain should bring it up and while he at it. He also ask Obama about Jesse Jackson’s statement today.
“Jackson made the remarks to the World Policy Forum in France last week, according to The New York Post. The civil rights activist reportedly said that “Zionists who have controlled American policy for decades” would lose some of their influence with Obama in the White House, and that “decades of putting Israel’s interests first” would come to a close.
His denial are just laughable. This is a pattern of behavior from Obama that cannot be ignored anymore!!!
Posted by: sisters | October 14, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
Old Joe Biden…still sitting in the resturant talking politics. The one that CLOSED 20 YEARS AGO!
and the said Reagan had Alzheimer’s.
Posted by: Jack | October 14, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
Jack.. might want to ask Nancy Reagan about McCains treatment of his first wife..
And as McCain said Aug. 16, 2008:
“My greatest moral failing – and I have been a very imperfect person – is the failure of my first marriage. It’s my greatest moral failure.”
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_john_mccain_cheat_on_his_first.html
Posted by: sly | October 14, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
This time next year McCain will be shooing imaginary bi-racial guys off of his wife’s lawn while sipping on a tall glass of warm buttermilk.
Just think about it. He’ll return to the Senate demoralized. Lindsey Graham and LIE berman will give him a hug, hold hands and sing kumbaya together.
John Wayne McCain reduced to Bozo the Clown with lipstick on.
CLASSIC
POTUS OBAMA – IT’S A LOCK GRASSHOPPAS!
Posted by: Nat Turner | October 14, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
Be prepared to be disappointed Botox Biden. Is Biden implying that the term “terrorist” only applies to Muslims? That’s what he believes Americans think when we hear that word? Does Timothy McVeigh ring a bell? Terrorists come from all races and places. A terrorist 30 years ago(i.e. one who committed terrorist acts) is still a terrorist. It’s fair to bring this up along with all the other things the Obama/Biden campaign and the in the tank media would rather keep silent to include ACORN. Having said that I am happy to see Mickey Mouse has been registered and will most likely vote democratic. Rodents have rights too.
Posted by: Puka | October 14, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
Biden: “Chuck Grahams, state senator is here..stand up Chuck, let ‘em see ya..
Posted by: Jack | October 14, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
Biden: “Chuck Grahams, state senator is here..stand up Chuck, let ‘em see ya..
Oh God love ya what am I talkin’ about…
ROFLMAO No one in American political history has made as ignorant a comment, on the campaign tral, then Joe “foot in my mouth” Biden.
Posted by: Jack | October 14, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
Jack,
Obama said that he wanted, like Lincoln, (who appointed his rivals to his cabinet),to appoint people in his cabinet who would not necessarily agree with him, so they would challenge his thinking. Joe Biden is the first of those. Joe knows that.
He doesn’t believe in just sticking know-nothing party loyalists in positions like Shrub did.
Joe Biden is a respected knowlegeable statesman. He’s one helluva lot smarter than you are!
Posted by: Donna Hughes | October 14, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
Ayers? How bout a Kenyan Witch Doctor??
How about your state wanting to declare independence? How about dumping your wife after she was left crippled in an auto accident, keating 5, trophy wives, temper tantrums, hatred and division. McCain will Have To reach across party lines because he’s alienated everyone in his own party.
Posted by: Janie | October 14, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
Stand up Chuck…ROFL…Biden should be a stand up comic.
Posted by: Jack | October 14, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
Hey Nat: How do you get so much time on the computer sitting behind bars in your cell? If I was your cell mate i’d want some time on it to!!
Posted by: bombem | October 14, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
Oh look the rabid pit bull that started this firestorm has some ethics issues.
Palin has checkered history on ethics issues :
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081014/ap_on_el_pr/palin_state_ethics;_ylt=An1k_.Q0V097hZmZl4Fxyw.s0NUE
Posted by: Jwench | October 14, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
Donna..I’ve NEVER asked a man in a wheel chair to stand up in front of a crowd. I also don’t talk to people who aren’t there. (Like Old Joe at his resturant closed for 20 years)
Posted by: Jack | October 14, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
McCain has a BIG problem:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/14/mccain-transition-chief-a_n_134595.html
Posted by: Bill | October 14, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
Donna..Obama also said he was a member of a Church for twenty years but cannot remember a single sermon. Either Obama was:
1. Sleeping in Church
2. Afflicted with a memory loss disease.
3. A Liar.
Which is it?
Posted by: Jack | October 14, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
Janie..In the 1970s lefty political groups in my state called for leaving the union because of NAM. What about them?
Posted by: Jack | October 14, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm
Look Jack,
I volunteered for Biden in Iowa. I’ve met and visited with he and his family. I’ve watched him interact with people and heard him speak a number of times.
So don’t YOU try to define Joe Biden to me or anybody else! I know what kind of man he is and he is the rare individual who can be equally at home as an emissary on the world stage or as your next-door neighbor.
Posted by: Donna Hughes | October 14, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
Nat Turner, you are a disgrace to your race. Why don’t you slime back to the hood you came from bro?
Posted by: . | October 14, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
Donna..Obama also said he was a member of a Church for twenty years but cannot remember a single sermon. Either Obama was:
1. Sleeping in Church
2. Afflicted with a memory loss disease.
3. A Liar.
Which is it?
all of the above!
Posted by: pop | October 14, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
If he brings it up, it’s refuted and he looks like a petty smear-monger. If he fails to bring it up, he looks like a coward. Either way, McCain is toast. America is finished with the politics of the past.
Posted by: thebob.bob | October 14, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
“So don’t YOU try to define Joe Biden to me or anybody else! I know what kind of man he is”
wow Donna, do you have sticky lips?
Posted by: barb | October 14, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
McCain already lost his honor during this campaign; he could be digging his grave as a respectable American citizen during the debate.
Posted by: trent | October 14, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
Posted by: Bill | Oct 14, 2008 6:37:18 PM
Great post. Sure McCain has no skeletons…..lol. Just one of many!
Posted by: Jwench | October 14, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
It’s the economy, stupid!
Once famous words, uttered during the current and past Presidential elections Unable to defend issues such as the economy, McCain resorts to attacks, while Obama continues on path, realizing that people want solutions, not rhetoric.
So, we have McCain, who stated: “I know a lot less about economics than I do about military and foreign policy issues. I still need to be educated.”, and he is getting much of that education from Phil Gramm, who gave us the enron loophole and can be thanked for our current fuel prices.
And Obama? Supported and advised by Warren Buffet, now backed by former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker,
and another former Federal Reserve Chairman Greenspan told Bloomberg News he was “not in favor of financing tax cuts with borrowed money” when asked if the United States could afford big tax cuts such as those proposed by Republican John McCain.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aXl43P8d8T1s&refer=home
Let him sling mud.. the rest of us can get back our country and point it back in the right direction.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 14, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
McCain not only has the Keating 5, but William Timmons who is on his transistion team. Timmons started the Oil for Food program and has extensive ties to Saddam Hussein when he was lobbying big oil.
Posted by: Bill | October 14, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
Bill,
Maybe Obama should bring up McCain’s latest skeleton to pop out of the casket.
Posted by: Jwench | October 14, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
Biden has more to worry about than Ayers now. Like Obama’s connection to ACORN and his contributions to their organization and Jesse Jackson is outing Obama about his plan to cut Israel and start making “amends” to Muslim countries.
Posted by: S Adams | October 14, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
If Obama is elected…I hope he doesn’t die.
Posted by: Wade | October 14, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
Jack,
Your stuff about Biden is nickel-dime stuff. He has a great sense of humor and is the first to laugh at himself when things come out wrong. That’s just Joe.
Palin yelled at a group of her supporters yesterday, who began hollering that they couldn’t hear her, and she thought they were hecklers and shamed them with one of her lines about how they should honor and thank the US vets who made it possible for them to come and protest. All they were protesting was that they couldn’t hear her!
So buzz off, Jack.
Posted by: Donna Hughes | October 14, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
And ACORN.. the organization that McCain has now turned his back on..
“Bertha Lewis, Chief Organizer of ACORN, said, “It has deeply saddened us to see Senator McCain abandon his historic support for ACORN and our efforts to support the goals of low-income Americans. Maybe it is out of desperation that Senator McCain has forgotten that he was for ACORN before he was against ACORN; he was for immigration reform before he was against immigration reform; and he was a maverick before he became erratic. We were thrilled to partner with him to help reform the outdated immigration laws in this country, and were pleased to work closely with him on this issue.”
Lewis continued, “We expected Senator McCain to support our efforts to give voice to millions of Americans who have never participated in an election before. We are surprised at his efforts to vilify an organization that, until recently, he saw as an ally. Maybe this surprise attack and change of heart is indicative of his state of mind, and the way he would govern.”
McCain probably doesn’t want to bring them up either.. but we all hope he does.
http://www.acorn.org/index.php?id=12439&tx_ttnewstt_news=22386&tx_ttnewsbackPid=12387&cHash=5706e23a2f
Posted by: Concerned American | October 14, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
Biden has more to worry about than Ayers now. Like Obama’s connection to ACORN and his contributions to their organization and Jesse Jackson is outing Obama about his plan to cut Israel and start making “amends” to Muslim countries.
Posted by: S Adams | Oct 14, 2008 7:04:57 PM
Jesse Jackson is nothing but a big mouth and jealous that Obama did something he failed at. Figures you would think Jesse Jackson was right.
McCain has ties to ACORN, so quit the bs. How about McCains transition chief, US Council for World Freedom and G. Gordon Liddy. Care to explain those associations?
Then we have stupid little Sarah
AIP,Troopergate and ethics.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081014/ap_on_el_pr/palin_state_ethics;_ylt=An1k_.Q0V097hZmZl4Fxyw.s0NUE
Posted by: Jwench | October 14, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
NEWS FLASH!!
At a PALIN RALLY today in Scranton the ANGRY REPUBLICAN MOB is at it again, yelling “KILL HIM!!”
Oops there goes another news cycle for McCain!! Tonight the MSM with be be painting the McCain supporters with the ANGRY MOB BRUSH AGAIN!!!!
POLITICO
October 14, 2008
Categories: Sarah Palin ‘Kill him,’ again
The Times Tribune, covering the crowd awaiting Sarah Palin in Scranton, reports:
Chris Hackett addressed the increasingly feisty crowd as they await the arrival of Gov. Palin.
Each time the Republican candidate for the seat in the 10th Congressional District mentioned Barack Obama, the crowd booed loudly.
Some screamed “kill him!”
Supporters have been noted shouting “kill him,” “terrorist,” “off with his head” and other equally incendiary terms about Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama. Others have directly suggested Mr. Obama is a Muslim, which he is not, or a traitor. Some comments even drew rebuke from Republican presidential nominee John McCain.
No decent Republican, Independent or right leaning Democrat want to be associated with an ANGRY MOB!!!!
Another nail in McNasty’s coffin and another point up for Obama in the polls!!!
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Davis | October 14, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
Davis,
IF anything happens to Obama they should charge both McCain and Palin as accessories. Anybody who could vote for anybody who condones that from their supporters must have a few screws loose.
Posted by: Jwench | October 14, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
Davis, you just want to see a bro in the White House, you think it will do you some good.
Guess what. Obammy don’t care about us blacks from the hood.
Posted by: bobo | October 14, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm
Davis, you just want to see a bro in the White House, you think it will do you some good.
Guess what. Obammy don’t care about us blacks from the hood.
Posted by: bobo | Oct 14, 2008 7:30:51 PM
I guess you agree with McCain’s campaign?
Posted by: Jwench | October 14, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
McCain has a right to bring up Ayers tomorrow. Better that then sharp barbs from afar and nothing to Obama’s face.
http://www.political-buzz.com/
Posted by: matt | October 14, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
wench, Obammy aint’ gonna do us bros any good. don’t vote for him because he is a bro.
your a fool if you do.
Posted by: bobo | October 14, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
wench, Obammy aint’ gonna do us bros any good. don’t vote for him because he is a bro.
your a fool if you do.
Posted by: bobo | Oct 14, 2008 7:38:43 PM
You are probably as lily white and bald as they come.
Posted by: Jwench | October 14, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
Hey Nat Turner, nice comment about “Casper McChicken”. If a conservative had referred to Obama as a “Charcoal colered loser” the libs would be screaming racism. How about just referring to the man by his name. I think his service to his country has earned him that, as has Obama’s. What you think about their particular political opinions aside, they both deserve a modicum of our respect.
Posted by: Steve | October 14, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
Jesse Jackson is nothing but a big mouth and jealous that Obama did something he failed at. Figures you would think Jesse Jackson was right.
McCain has ties to ACORN, so quit the bs. How about McCains transition chief, US Council for World Freedom and G. Gordon Liddy. Care to explain those associations?
Then we have stupid little Sarah
AIP,Troopergate and ethics.
Posted by: Jwench | Oct 14, 2008 7:19:48 PM
———————————-
Jwench–Jesse Jackson is an Obama supporter, and his son is a co-chair for Obama’s campaign.
While McCain was invited to be a Keynote speaker in 2006 for ACORN, Obama has intimate and long term ties with them. He started out as a “community organizer” or “leadership trainer” as they call it. ACORN is based in Chicago and is a far left-wing organization that Obama openly supported, even giving contributions to them until they were caught doing their illegal voter registration. Obama sat on the Woods Fund and Joyce Foundation with Ayers, and they poured money into ACORN coffers.
Gordon Liddy, may have “planned” to kill someone, but Ayers and his wife actually did. They killed 2 police officer, bombed the pentagon and then tried to kill the prosecutor and his family in their home, with small children inside. Obama has extensive ties to Ayers since his first appearance in Chicago.
US Council for World Freedom was dedicated to ending communism in the world–Mccain was a supporter of their cause, not an active member and cannot be compared to ACORN.
Obama beats McCain 10-1 on every corrupt association.
Sarah Palin is a very successful governor of a state with a high approval rating. Have you succeeded that far in life????
Posted by: S Adams | October 14, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm
wench, Obammy ain’t our bro. If anyone we should get Jesse Jackson in the house.
Obammy won’t do squat for us bro’s.
Posted by: bobo | October 14, 2008, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm
wench, Obammy is a commie, he ain’t gonna do nothing for us blacks.
Posted by: bobo | October 14, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
Can’t wait to see the Final Presidential Debate tomorrow. Barack Obama is going to show his leadership qualities and win this election, and America will start practicing the term: “President Obama, after tomorrow’s debate.
Go Obama!
http://www.congratstothewinners.com/2008/10/final-presidential-debate.html
Posted by: FriendlyFred | October 14, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
Obama supports radical Islam. He suggested for his cousin Odinga incite riots if he lost the Kenyan presidency. At Obama’s suggestion, Odinga had his radical Islam thugs burn thousands of Christians alive. Yet, American Jews seem to be infatuated by Obama. Mind boggling really. Even Jesse Jackson knows what Obama has in store for Jews, if he is elected.
WAKE UP AMERICAN JEWS! DON”T FALL FOR THIS MODERN DAY HITLER.
Posted by: KHKH | October 14, 2008, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
– While McCain was invited to be a Keynote speaker in 2006 for ACORN, Obama has intimate and long term ties with them –
McCain has a much longer association with them than just 2006.. And I guess we should throw in the US Justice Department and League of Women Voters as well then since they along with Obama were the ones representing ACORN when they sued the state of Illinois for voter discrimination.. but the really funny part is, guess who has had their hand in all of this?
From the NY Daily News:
“In case you haven’t been paying attention, this is nothing new.
Republican leaders in New Mexico raised the same claims against an ACORN registration drive in the last presidential vote. Then they tried to pressure New Mexico’s U.S. attorney, David Iglesias, an appointee of President Bush, to bring a voter fraud indictment just before the 2006 congressional election.
After an investigation, Iglesias concluded there wasn’t enough evidence. A few months later, he was fired by Attorney General Alberto Gonzales in what became a big Justice Department scandal.
Last week, the department’s inspector general concluded the firing was “engineered” by former White House aide Karl Rove and New Mexico’s Republican Sen. Pete Domenici for Iglesias’ refusal to pursue voter fraud indictments.”
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2008/10/09/2008-10-09_gop_in_push_to_erase_voters_purges_acorn.html
Posted by: Concerned American | October 14, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
– FALL FOR THIS MODERN DAY HITLER. –
Absolutely.. McCain, the ‘original neocon’ and his neo-nazi connections should be no where near control of the worlds most powerful armed forces.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 14, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm
Gee, S Adams,
If Ayers is responsible for all of that damage, then why isn’t he rotting in federal prison somewhere?
Posted by: Donna Hughes | October 14, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
Concerned–And yet we have several indictments brought against ACORN workers for obvious voter fraud. In case you didn’t know, signing up Mickey Mouse and the Dallas Cowboys is illegal, as is signing people up up 17 and 25 times with different addresses.
Posted by: S Adams | October 14, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
McCain/Palin–Country first with traditional values and ideals.
Obama/Biden–Socialism agenda–”I will standup for the Muslims” The Muslims represent most of the terrorist groups around the world. These groups seem to be hoping that Obama will win.
Posted by: Mary | October 14, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm
– then why isn’t he rotting in federal prison somewhere? –
He got off due to technicalities. He is currently a distinguished professor at the University of Chicago:
Education:
1987 – Ed.D, Columbia University, Curriculum & Instruction
1987 – M.Ed, Teachers College, Columbia University, Early Childhood Education
1984 – M.Ed, Bank Street College, Early Childhood Education
1968 – B.A., University of Michigan, American Studies
RESEARCH AND TEACHING INTERESTS
Bill Ayers’s interests include teaching for social justice, urban educational reform, narrative and interpretive research, children in trouble with the law, and related issues. See http://www.billayers.org.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 14, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm
– And yet we have several indictments brought against ACORN workers for obvious voter fraud. –
Umm, no, registration fraud, and incase you missed it, neither Obama or McCain are connected or responsible for ACORNs trouble.
Keep clinging.. the file grows larger every day :)
Posted by: Concerned American | October 14, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm
– I will standup for the Muslims –
Mary, I bet you can’t cite where he said that.. go ahead, I’ll wait.
(hint: he didn’t)
Posted by: Concerned American | October 14, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
If McCain truly put his country first he wouldn’t have picked a dangerous dimwit like Palin for VP. She is unacceptable because he is old and his body has been ravaged by his time as a POW and his several bouts with cancer. His father died the next day after he came home after WW2. The thought of Palin ANYWHERE close to the presidency is enough to scare the bejesus out of me!
Posted by: Donna Hughes | October 14, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
Donna Hughes–Well Golly Gee, After Ayers admitted his guilt, he got off on a technicality, the evidence was illegally obtained and unuseable. His wife, Dohrn, pled guilty and served time.
“I don’t regret setting bombs off, I just regret that we didn’t do enough” Bill Ayers, unrepentent terrorist and good pals with Obama.
If these acts were done today, like, Tim McVeigh, Eric Rudolph) they would be under the prison.
Posted by: S Adams | October 14, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
If one wants to play the absurd guilt by association game, we have the McCain’s Keating Five Scandal and the McCain role in the Iran Contra Scandal linking him to ex-Nazis, and now we have William Timmons, the Washington lobbyist who John McCain named to head his presidential transition team, who aided an influence effort on behalf of Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein to ease international sanctions against his regime. Do these discussions move the national debate forward? A resounding No!! Bill Ayers is an obsession of the right wing and nothing more. People want answers to the financial crisis not meaningless innuendo. McCain is rightfully losing in virtually every battle ground state because he is unable to focus on any meaningful issues.
Posted by: jefflz | October 14, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm
A quotation I’d like to hear during tomorrow’s debate in connection with the Ayers/Wright discussion that ought to take place:
“Associate yourself with Men of good Quality if you Esteem your own Reputation; for ’tis better to be alone than in bad Company.”
-George Washington
Posted by: Jim V | October 14, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm
Concerned American,
I fail to see what the problem is with Ayers. It seems as though he has proven himself more of an asset than a threat at this point.
He is only important to the Republicans who are looking to stir up trouble and grasping at anything they can find to exploit.
I find Palin to be far more dangerous!
Posted by: Donna Hughes | October 14, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
Donna, you have sticky lips, get out from under your master Obama’s desk!
Posted by: z | October 14, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
– He is only important to the Republicans who are looking to stir up trouble and grasping at anything they can find to exploit.
I find Palin to be far more dangerous! –
I absolutely agree.. McCain can’t defend his positions on the issues, so he resorts to guilt by association attacks to distract voters. Palin, who claims she will reform government has been found guilty of ethics violations, and the board has now stated they are going to expand their investigation to other ethics violations and other key personal in her office. And yet, this appears the best that the GOP could come up with, which is pretty sad and an insult to the intelligence of all American citizens.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 14, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm
– I will standup for the Muslims –
Mary, I bet you can’t cite where he said that.. go ahead, I’ll wait.
(hint: he didn’t)
Posted by: Concerned American | Oct 14, 2008 8:41:27 PM
_______________________
Wrong, he did. “Audacity of Hope” p 261. The quote was” In the wake of 9/11…. I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction”
Another classic: This one is from “Dreams of my father” “White man’s greed puts the world in need”
This was based on a sermon written by Obama’s mentor -, none of than, Jeremiah Wright.
Did the white man put Obama’s brother in a 6 x 9 hut on $1 a month. Poor George, his brother could at least send him another $1 month to double his income. I guess the “spreading the wealth” doesn’t extend to his own family.
Posted by: S Adams | October 14, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm
Well Golly Gee, S Adams,
Jesus hung out with criminals too!
And don’t go accusing me of thinking Obama is the Messiah either! I’m in his camp because I followed Joe Biden here.
Posted by: Donna Hughes | October 14, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
Good article… American people should read. Educate yourself regarding Obama.
http://www.washtimes.com/news/2008/oct/12/obamas-kenya-ghosts/
Posted by: ml | October 14, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
– Wrong, he did. –
Great! I was waiting for you to pull up that SPAM mail.. now, here is the real quote:
Actual quote from “The Audacity of Hope” [pg. 261]: Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.
Obama did not say he would side with “the Muslims,”.. You really shouldn’t believe every SPAM e-mail you read, or take them on ‘blind faith’ :)
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_obama_write_that_he_would_stand.html
Posted by: Concerned American | October 14, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
z, or whomever you are at present,
See my last post, then go back to your gutter.
Posted by: Donna Hughes | October 14, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
Concerned –since we are playing word games with “voter fraud” and “registration fraud” –James Terry, Chief Public Advocate for the Consumers Rights League, today testified at a joint House Administration and House Judiciary Committee oversight hearing on “Federal, State and Local Efforts to Prepare for the General 2008 Election,” where he highlighted “corruption at every level of ACORN including embezzlement, cover-ups, misuse of taxpayer funds and voter fraud.”
Posted by: S Adams | October 14, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
Sing along, if your a McCain supporter and feel so inclined, with the lyrics here:
McCain – Palin Tradition
By Hank Williams Jr.
The left wing liberal media have
Always been a real close knit family
But, most of the American People
Don’t believe em anyway ya see
Stop and think it over
Before you make your decision
If they smell something
They’re gonna come down strong
It’s a McCain – Palin tradition
Now this old Union’s got problems
That is plain to see
The Democrats bankrupted Fannie Mae N Freddie Mac
Just like 1, 2, 3
The bankers didn’t want to make all those bad loans,
But Bill Clinton said you got to
Now they want a bail out, what I’m talking about
Is a Democrat liberal who doo
CHORUS
John N Sarah tell ya
Just what they think
And they’re not gonna blink
And they’re gonna fix this country
Cause they’re just like you N ole Hank
Yes John is a maverick
And Sarah fixed Alaska’s broken condition
They’re gonna go just fine
We’re headed for better times
It’s a McCain – Palin tradition
I am very proud of America’s name
Bu no society is perfect
And we have had our stains
If I’m down at the coffee shop and
Somebody wants to give our flag friction
We say please move on
Cause we’re standing strong
That’s an old John McCain tradition
CHORUS
John N Sarah tell ya
Just what they think
And they’re not gonna blink
And they’re gonna fix this country
Cause they’re just like you N ole Hank
Yes John is a maverick
And Sarah fixed Alaska’s broken condition
They’re gonna go just fine
We’re headed for better times
It’s a McCain – Palin tradition
Some are bound to tell you I’m
Preaching to the choir
And that is very true
And we are going even higher
Like a mama bear in Idaho
She’ll protect your family’s condition
If you mess with her cubs
She’s gonna take of the gloves
It’s an American female tradition
CHORUS
John N Sarah tell ya
Just what they think
And they’re not gonna blink
And they’re gonna fix this country
Cause they’re just like you N ole Hank
Yes John is a maverick
And Sarah fixed Alaska’s broken condition
They’re gonna go just fine
We’re headed for better times
It’s a McCain – Palin tradition
Posted by: KH | October 14, 2008, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm
– corruption at every level of ACORN including embezzlement, cover-ups, misuse of taxpayer funds and voter fraud.” –
And yet, not a single mention of either Obama or McCain.. how about that.
Ah, the file just keeps getting bigger and bigger..
Posted by: Concerned American | October 14, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm
Donna Hughes–Seriously, you followed the lying, plagerizing, gaffe machine? LOL. So you were one of the 10 people who voted for him for president.
Posted by: S Adams | October 14, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm
Concerned–I am not going to type that entire article for you. You know Obama is connected to ACORN so just keep drinking the kool-aid, and live in LaLa Land if it makes you feel better about voting for Barack Hussein Obama.
Posted by: S Adams | October 14, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
Obama thinks he can make nasty comments regarding the people of PENNSYLVANIA and then expect to win this state?? Think again loser! We have pride, not s##t for brains.
We are voting for John McCain. Democrats for McCain signs are all over Pa.
Posted by: ml | October 14, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
– I am not going to type that entire article for you. You know Obama is connected to ACORN so just keep drinking the kool-aid, and live in LaLa Land if it makes you feel better about voting for Barack Hussein Obama. –
As has been McCain.. and it is still a non-issue, even though you are still trying desperately to make it one. Of course, you have yet mentioned a single real issue.. such as taxes and how even Greenspan has stated that McCains tax cuts would be a disaster given our current economic situation.. or how his health plan is just more of the same and would result in more americans losing insurance..
As long as McCain and his fellow anti-Obama followers continue down the character attack road, the polls continue to shift.. so please, by all means, keep it up!
May Allah be with you :)
Posted by: Concerned American | October 14, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
S Adams,
You are as full of s**t as a Christmas goose.
KH,
Poor old Hank has gone to the dogs. I engraved a Ruger Bear-Cat for him once, but I’d be embarrassed to associate with him now.
Posted by: Donna Hughes | October 14, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
hey Donna, get out from under your masters desk.
you have blue lips from sucking Obamas kool aid.
Posted by: z | October 14, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
– you have blue lips from sucking Obamas kool aid. –
Yet another fine example confirming the polls showing the more educated are supporting Obama! (and also a good endorsement against inbreeding)
http://www.gallup.com/poll/108043/Candidate-Support-Education.aspx
Posted by: Concerned American | October 14, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
Obama may know that Ayers character – but McCain pals around with Sarah Palin. ………
http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/10/12/sarah-palin-im-so-pretty/
Posted by: Ohg Rea Tone | October 14, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
Concerned–We discussed the failed health care plan of Obama’s a few nights ago. I said all I needed to say about that, if you want to know about McCain’s look it up on his website. I already know about Obama’s plan that will be impossible to implement in this country.
Obama’s magic $250,000 number for taxes is stupid, and leaves out people living in states that have a higher cost of living and small businesses owners who have wages and overhead costs, while raising taxes on capital gains to dividend taxes and hidden taxes on gas, natural gas, and retirement accounts. Basically he wants to “spread the wealth” which is a socialist point of view and penalize those who bother to get an education and work hard.
Raising taxes would be disaster in these economic times, which by the way, McCain was right, the fundamentals of this country are strong. The stock market is making a comeback and oil prices lowering everyday. Obama’s plan would cause inflation. Basically, Obama wants to implement all of Jimmy Carter’s policies. That didn’t really work so well.
Posted by: S Adams | October 14, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm
Barack Obama is going to tax the rich and give to the middle class. Look at the dollar amount that will tax the rich and the look at the dollar amount the middle class will receive.
As of July 2007, the population was about 301,139,947 people.
1% of the population rounds out to about 3,011 will be taxed at about $93,709.
The lower middle class is about 20% of the population and is about 60,228.
Each lower middle class person receives a whooping $1.05.
If the next middle class group of 20% is included, that is about $0.525 per person. Since there is no real definition for the middle class, there is no reason not to include both lower middle class groups.
Therefore, which ever you decide is the middle class you will receive between $0.525 to $ 1.05 per person from the Obama taxing the rich claim. Do not spend it all in one place. If Barack Obama really wants to help the middle class American people, then he would have suggested the following:
1. Put a permanent freeze on all money going to foreign aid.
2. Return troops from the Middle East and give Israel full power to keep the
peace. In additions, give full support to Israel to keep the peace. If the Arabs
do not like it, too damn bad for them.
3. No bailout agreement for the banks. No money going to failing banks.
4. Take over all mortgages under $300,000. Hold the mortgages like the
student loans.
5.. No added taxes for anyone or business. The amounts collected are too small
to realize any true gains. Printing and implementing the new tax laws will
cost more than the tax collected.
6. Reduction or elimination of state taxes on private real estate property. If a
state does not agree, the state receives no federal aid.
7. 40% pay cut for all state and federal employees. If a state does not agree,
the state receives no federal aid.
8. States should collect taxes and give a portion of the tax money to the federal
government and not the feds giving money back to the states. That would
shrink the federal government and help eliminate federal tax abuse of money.
This is just for starters to cut the budget for Middle America for a return to better living. Obama and McCain talk a great deal and in the final analysis, it is the kind a change that stays the same.
Barack Obama leads McCain in bull throwing by 5%. Americans must wake up to the Washington, D.C. crap slingers. We need INDEPENDENT people in government and less government to control OUR money. We are NOT in need, government is in need. Too many government regulation swallow our money like a giant vacuum cleaner. Government sucks the life out of taxpayers. Barack Obama talks about redistribution of the wealth, it is the government that is too wealthy. Wake Up Americans.
Posted by: Independent Voters | October 14, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
– Raising taxes would be disaster in these economic times –
So, we have McCain, who stated: “I know a lot less about economics than I do about military and foreign policy issues. I still need to be educated.”, and he is getting much of that education from Phil Gramm, who gave us the enron loophole and can be thanked for our current fuel prices.
And Obama? Supported and advised by Warren Buffet, now backed by former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker,
and another former Federal Reserve Chairman Greenspan told Bloomberg News he was “not in favor of financing tax cuts with borrowed money” when asked if the United States could afford big tax cuts such as those proposed by Republican John McCain.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aXl43P8d8T1s&refer=home
Posted by: Concerned American | October 14, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
– Therefore, which ever you decide is the middle class you will receive between $0.525 to $ 1.05 per person from the Obama taxing the rich claim. –
Your math don’t match the estimated tax tables for each candidates plans.. or even come close:
http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/
Posted by: Concerned American | October 14, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
the sky is falling, sure depression, guaranteed disaster! gee where have we heard that before? the wsj recently said:
Even as Barack Obama proposes fiscally responsible tax reform to strengthen our economy and restore the balance that has been lost in recent years, we hear the familiar protests and distortions from the guardians of the broken status quo.
Many of these very same critics made many of these same overheated predictions in previous elections. They said President Clinton’s 1993 deficit-reduction plan would wreck the economy. Eight years and 23 million new jobs later, the economy proved them wrong. Now they are making the same claims about Sen. Obama’s tax plan, which has even lower taxes than prevailed in the 1990s — including lower taxes on middle-class families, lower taxes for capital gains, and lower taxes for dividends.
Posted by: greg | October 14, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm
I’ll be disappointed if the media keep igonoring the fact that Biden, Porter Goss, and Bob Graham and met with and wired 100,000 dollars to hijacker Mohammed Atta through Mahmoud Ahmed, head of Pakistani ISI, THAT I will be VERY disappointed that Biden met with a financier of 911 ON 911!!! DOES AYBODY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS!!!
Posted by: hmn | October 14, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
Comrades, good news from the western front. Comrade obama is going to spread the wealth around, he is going to take money from hard workers and give it to the lazy bums.
http://www.breitbart.tv/html/195153.html
Posted by: Obamatron drone #12323 | October 14, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
***
DOES AYBODY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS!!!
***
“The Times of India reported on the 9th that “The US authorities sought his removal after confirming the fact that $100,000 were wired to WTC hijacker Mohammed Atta from Pakistan by Ahmad Umar Sheikh at the instance of Gen Mahmud.”
http://www.yirmeyahureview.com/articles/2006/911_pakistan_connection.htm
Posted by: sammy | October 14, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
– Comrades, good news from the western front –
Indeed good news! Now we can get this country back on track.
(even the rest of your post is simply misguided rubbish)
Posted by: Concerned American | October 14, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm
Comrades, more good news from the western front. Comrade obama the most glorious Marxist leader wants to do away with the capitalist 401K program so that the state can look after us from now on.
Posted by: Obamatron drone #12323 | October 14, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm
HEY OBAMA SUPPORTERS:
BET YOU CAN’T PASS THE TEST!
http://barackobamatest.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.home
Posted by: Ed | October 15, 2008, 12:31 am 12:31 am
I would like to have someone give me a convincing reason to think that a man who wants to be President, who has a close working relationship with a known terrorist, is NOT a problem.
0bama has said that he started thinking seriously about being President while he was attending Harvard Law School, which was before he met Ayers (supposedly). What 0bama SHOULD have said when he met Ayers was, “as a man intending to run for President, I can not in good concience collaborate with a man who took up arms against that very same government, and has never repented for his acts of violence, nor for the declaration of war issued by his wife in the name of the Weather Underground, AYer’s terrorist group.”
That’s what an honest, patriotic man would have done.
But 0bama is thoroughly dishonest, he is a fraud, he has surrounded himself with anti-American radicals, and lied about his relationship with each one of them.
That is indeed a serious issue, no matter what the lefties try to say.
Don’t be intimidated into voting for 0bama because he is the first Black candidate. Vote against him because he is a fraud, and his policies are bad for America (unless you WANT to replace the Stars and Stripes with the Hammer and Sickle, as 0bama does).
Posted by: Nick in Virginia | October 15, 2008, 12:55 am 12:55 am
– BET YOU CAN’T PASS THE TEST! –
Too funny! Example question:
————
8. According to the Tax Policy Center, Barack Obama’s tax plans would cost the U.S federal government nearly $900 billion in his first term, and increase the national debt by $3.3 trillion over ten years. Do you believe the analysis that Obama’s plans will be too costly for the U.S., or do you think the changes are needed?
———–
Hmmm, lets see.. first off, the TPC analysis shows that Obamas tax plan would increase national debt by $2.9 trillion over 10 years.. not $3.3. And no mention that McCains plan would be even more, $4.2 trillion over 10 years.
Have no idea where they pulled that $900 billion figure from.. but the TPC report shows that first year deficit increases by Obama as $427 billion, and McCain at $827 billion.
So the disinformation machine continues..
http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/
Posted by: Concerned American | October 15, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am
– Don’t be intimidated into voting for 0bama because he is the first Black candidate –
He’s BLACK! OMG, I never noticed (nor did I care) It’s the ISSUES and the INTELLIGENCE that matters. When will some people get it through their narrow minded skulls?
Posted by: Concerned American | October 15, 2008, 12:59 am 12:59 am
Concerned American, YOU SHOULD GET OUT OF YOUR MOM’S BASEMENT AND GET A REAL JOB, BECAUSE YOU SUCK AS AN OBAMA BLOGGER.
Posted by: . | October 15, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am
The Obama Doctrine: “Launch pre-emptive strikes to stifle any criticism.”
The incredible amount of garbage being launched against McCain and Palin is
staggering. But, merely bringing up questionable Obama associations easily backed
up by records is ‘smearing’. According the MSM and Communists’ logic, neo-Nazis
should get a pass because they weren’t alive when Hitler was in power. Or,
Klansmen should be left alone because they weren’t even born when Gen. Forrest
started the Klan.
Also incredible is the dismissal of Republicans as uneducated. Seeing these
PhDs out ther like Ayers (and those that stick up for him), Ward Churchill, and
Angela Davis makes me think that PhDs (in non-technical, basket-weaving, social
type disciplines anyway) are more political than having anything to do with
real Academia and furthering Mankind’s collective body of knowledge.
Are the Libs going to kick all of the millions of Dems with no college degree
out of their party? BTW, both Palin and McCain are educated. At least with
Palin we know how she got the money to go to college…still a mystery with
Barry. Also amusing is the recent comparison of McCain to Wallace…wasn’t
Wallace one of those enlightened Democrats of the ’60s?
Posted by: Grand Old Party | October 15, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am
– YOU SHOULD GET OUT OF YOUR MOM’S BASEMENT AND GET A REAL JOB –
Sorry, none of my homes have a basement and I am retired..
But thanks for caring!
May Allah be with you :)
Posted by: Concerned American | October 15, 2008, 1:25 am 1:25 am
– The incredible amount of garbage being launched against McCain and Palin is
staggering –
Interesting considering even McCain supporters and the GOP are starting to distance themselves due to the campaign of lies and smears McCain has been running..
Even Time said:
“McCain’s lies have ranged from the annoying to the sleazy, and the problem is in both degree and kind. His campaign has been a ceaseless assault on his opponent’s character and policies, featuring a consistent—and witting—disdain for the truth. Even after 38 million Americans heard Obama say in his speech at the Democratic National Convention that he was open to offshore oil-drilling and building new nuclear-power plants, McCain flatly said in his acceptance speech that Obama opposed both. Normal political practice would be for McCain to say, “Obama says he’s ‘open to’ offshore drilling, but he’s always opposed it. How can we believe him?” This persistence in repeating demonstrably false charges is something new in presidential politics.”
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1842030,00.html
Posted by: Concerned American | October 15, 2008, 1:28 am 1:28 am
Hey Nat Turner, You make me wish that your mother and Obama’s mom had shared his feeling toward abortion….The late term partial abortion type where Osama thinks it is perfectly OK to wait until a baby is about to be delivered and then turn the baby in utero and stick a surgical pick into it’s skull and suck the brain out. All in the name of protecting a womans choice. I would argue that if a woman didn’t want a child they could have decided long before the delivery date, but not your beloved messiah. He could give two cents for the life of an innocent unborn child, but he will fight to the death to protect the scum on death row from being executed? That is something that I will never understand about liberals. I’m not in favor of the death penalty for anyone, that includes the unborn, but geez, how about standing on a position that actually makes sense. I guess very few unborn children will vote democrat, but many in prison would?
Posted by: Steve | October 15, 2008, 1:45 am 1:45 am
I have a two-word suggestion for Senator Biden.
The second word is “off”.
Posted by: c'est moi | October 15, 2008, 1:47 am 1:47 am
– The late term partial abortion type where Osama thinks it is perfectly OK to wait until a baby is about to be delivered and then turn the baby in utero and stick a surgical pick into it’s skull and suck the brain out. –
Saying the above just shows your ignorance on the issue and the legislation surrounding it.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 15, 2008, 1:48 am 1:48 am
I concur!
Posted by: Steve | October 15, 2008, 1:48 am 1:48 am
Really “Concerned American”? I would love for you to straighten me out. I’m an OBGYN. Let’s hear it fella.
Posted by: Steve | October 15, 2008, 1:49 am 1:49 am
Well? Still waiting for your explanation. I realize all you liberals believe you are so much smarter and worldly then us conservative hicks, but amazingly, some of us bumpkins actually went on to higher education and lo and behold…learned something about the world. Don’t tell me I’m ignorant on this issue. I deal with this every day and I practice in Chicago, so I certainly am aware of Husseins particular leftist beliefs!
Posted by: Steve | October 15, 2008, 2:01 am 2:01 am
On an issue like partial birth abortion, I strongly believe that the state can properly restrict late-term abortions. I have said so repeatedly. All I’ve said is we should have a provision to protect the health of the mother, and many of the bills that came before me didn’t have that.
Part of the reason they didn’t have it was purposeful, because those who are opposed to abortion have a moral calling to try to oppose what they think is immoral. Oftentimes what they were trying to do was to polarize the debate and make it more difficult for people, so that they could try to bring an end to abortions overall.
As president, my goal is to bring people together, to listen to them, and I don’t think that’s any Republican out there who I’ve worked with who would say that I don’t listen to them, I don’t respect their ideas, I don’t understand their perspective. And my goal is to get us out of this polarizing debate where we’re always trying to score cheap political points and actually get things done.
Source: 2008 Fox News interview: presidential series Apr 27, 2008
Posted by: Concerned American | October 15, 2008, 2:01 am 2:01 am
Wonderful clip and paste. Doesn’t mention his countless votes in the Illinois legislature pushing for complete “pro choice” issues to include partial birth abortions. He says he thinks the states can properly restrict, but he is against the ban himself (The Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003) his voting record proves it.
Posted by: Steve | October 15, 2008, 2:06 am 2:06 am
Look, we probably both agree in a woman’s right to choose what is best for her own body, but legislation should exist that outlines a timeframe to make that decision. Right now, in most states, it doesn’t.
Posted by: Steve | October 15, 2008, 2:08 am 2:08 am
He has explained his decisions again and again and has been consistent with that stand.. As he described, many supposed bills regarding abortion would have in fact made things worse than better. He is strictly pro-choice, and feels that each state has the right to decide for themselves. He does not support late term abortions except as he explained, the mothers health is in danger. He will not attempt to overthrow current law as defined by Roe v. Wade as McCain and Palin have suggested they would try to do.. He is after all a Constitutional law expert, which will be refreshing to have, given the fact that I believe the two idiots in office currently have never even read the Constitution.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 15, 2008, 2:25 am 2:25 am
Regarding the Supreme Court Ruling on the Partial Birth Abortion Ban:
I strongly disagree with today’s Supreme Court ruling, which dramatically departs from previous precedents safeguarding the health of pregnant women. As Justice Ginsburg emphasized in her dissenting opinion, this ruling signals an alarming willingness on the part of the conservative majority to disregard its prior rulings respecting a woman’s medical concerns and the very personal decisions between a doctor and patient. I am extremely concerned that this ruling will embolden state legislatures to enact further measures to restrict a woman’s right to choose, and that the conservative Supreme Court justices will look for other opportunities to erode Roe v. Wade, which is established federal law and a matter of equal rights for women.
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post_group/ObamaHQ/CZsK
Posted by: Concerned American | October 15, 2008, 2:29 am 2:29 am
And I assume as you are a staunch liberal you are well versed in constitutional law? At least more so than those “Two idiots”? He is at most an extremely left leaning radical with vastly questionable associations, and at least a junior senator with no legislative experience and only a strong background in canvassing urban neighborhoods stirring up the masses with his ACORN buddies. I can live with all that…..Just have him produce his damn birth certificate to prove he is a Natural born citizen not a naturalized citizen. If he can do that then I would shut up. However, he keeps stalling hoping he can prevent having to do it before the election. And don’t tell me he already posted it on his website and it was verified by Factchecker.org We all know who owns them and the association with Obama is also well known. Let a judge see it and decide. I think he’s lying and trying to get by with it!
Posted by: Steve | October 15, 2008, 2:33 am 2:33 am
I am extremely concerned that this ruling will embolden state legislatures to enact further measures to restrict a woman’s right to choose, and that the conservative Supreme Court justices will look for other opportunities to erode Roe v. Wade, which is established federal law and a matter of equal rights for women.
Just because it’s a law doesn’t make it a good one. Remember, slavery was the law of the land 150 years ago, that didn’t make it right did it?
Posted by: Steve | October 15, 2008, 2:35 am 2:35 am
– I think he’s lying and trying to get by with it! –
LOL – Yeah, Ok Steve..
May Allah be with you :)
Posted by: Concerned American | October 15, 2008, 2:45 am 2:45 am
You too my friend. You are articulate and seem fairminded, not like a lot of posters i read here. It has been a pleasure debating with you.
asalam alaikum
Posted by: Steve | October 15, 2008, 2:51 am 2:51 am
$5 says McCain won’t bring up Ayers — or else Obama brings up lobbyists and Keating 5.
McCain is scared sh–less.
Posted by: Jersey Joe | October 15, 2008, 4:00 am 4:00 am
Shocking development: Mrs Obama decides enough is enough: “My husband was born in Hawaii and adopted by his step father, does that make him unpatriotic; she asks”, on a direct telephone to API.
Posted by africanpress on October 15, 2008
Accusing API of colluding with American internet bloggers in an effort to bring down her husband, Mrs Obama said she decided to call API because of what she termed, API’s help to spread rumours created by American bloggers and other racist media outlets in their efforts to damage a black man’s name, saying she hopes African Media was mature enough to be in the front to give unwavering support to her husband, a man Africans should identify themselves with.
When API told her that our online news media was only relaying what the American Bloggers and other media outlets had discovered through their investigations, Mrs Obama was angered and she came out loud with the following: “African press International is supposed to support Africans and African-American view,” and she went to state that, “it is strange that API has chosen to support the racists against my husband. There is no shame in being adopted by a step father. All dirt has been thrown onto my husband’s face and yet he loves this country. My husband and I know that there is no law that will stop him from becoming the president, just because some American white racists are bringing up the issue of my husband’s adoption by His step father. The important thing here is where my husband’s heart is at the moment. I can tell the American people that My husband loves this country and his adoption never changed his love for this country. He was born in Hawaii, yes, and that gives him all the right to be an American citizen even though he was adopted by a foreigner; says Michelle Obama on telefon to API.”
This is a very interesting turn of events. The American man Dr Corsi was recently reported to have been arrested in Kenya because there was fear that he might reveal information on Obama when he wanted to hold a press conference in Nairobi.
The question now is why he was arrested and who ordered his arrest. Was Obama’s hand in this in any way? We will never know the truth but what is clear is that Dr Corsi was seen as a threat while in Kenya.
When API asked Mrs Obama to comment on why Dr Corsi was arrested by the Kenyan government and whether she thought Kenya’s Prime Minister Mr Raila Odinga was involved in Dr Corsi’s arrest, she got irritated and and simply told API not to dig that which will support evil people who are out to stop her husband from getting the presidency.
When asked who she was referring to as the evil people, she stated that she was not going to elaborate much on that but that many conservative white people and even some African Americans were against her husband, but that this group of blacks were simply doing so because of envy.
On Farakhan and his ministry, Mrs Obama told API that it was unfortunate that Mr Farakhan came out the way he did supporting her husband openly before the elections was over. That was not wholehearted support but one that was calculated to convince the American people that my husband will support the growth of muslim faith if he became the president, adding “even if my husband was able to prove that he is not a Muslim, he will not be believed by those who have come out strongly to destroy his chances of being the next President. Do real people expect someone to deny a religion when 80 percent of his relatives are Muslims?; Mrs Obama asked.
Mrs Obama asked API to write a good story about her husband and that will earn API an invitation to the innoguration ceremony when, as she put it , her husband will be installed as the next President of the United States of America next year.
http://africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/10/15/shocking-development-mrs-obama-decides-enough-is-enough-my-husband-was-born-in-hawaii-and-adopted-by-his-step-father-does-that-make-him-unpatriotic-she-asks-on-a-direct-telephone-to-api/#comment-35974
Posted by: KH | October 15, 2008, 7:13 am 7:13 am
The Media Better get “With it”
The media is not being honest about our candidates. Actually they haven’t been honest about Obama since day one.
Why is anyone pushing Obama and Biden?
Obama has no experience.
He’s risky.
He is scary.
His friends, his associates and his background should be questioned daily.
Rev. Wright, Farrakhan, Rezko, William Ayers, Father Plaeger and now ACORN.
We have a racist, an Islamic leader, a criminal, a terrorist and a fraudulent grass root community group.
Obama is running for President of our country, not for American Idol or for a “public speaking” position.
If the media doesn’t do it’s job. Obama and his group of “obama girl” followers might end up in our living rooms.
Obama is embarrassing.
McCain is experienced and a true patriot.
Posted by: al from nj | October 15, 2008, 7:55 am 7:55 am
Comrades, even bigger news from the western front. Comrade obama does not like the first amendment. Those that critisize the dear leader will be hounded by the obama thug squad.
Posted by: Obamatron drone #12323 | October 15, 2008, 8:39 am 8:39 am
For those who are Obama lovers and think that he will be better off. Be afraid, very afraid. Below is the insert from not edited comment by Obama inregards of “OBAMATAXCODE 101″. Let the lazy get some money and be happy I don’t care about those who actually making money and moving America forward and let the socialists reign.
“I’m getting ready to buy a company that makes $250,000 to $280,000 a year,” Wurzelbacher had told Obama. “Your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn’t it?”
“It’s not that I want to punish your success,” Obama replied. “I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they’ve got a chance for success, too … When you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”
At last! The truth outs!
Way to go COMRADE Obama!!!!!!!
Posted by: miantch | October 15, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am
don’t know what’s more scary, the cover up by the MSM for Obama, or his brainwashed Nazi Youth supporters like Bethb, who typically respond to any questioning of their Messiah with an angry barrage of hate filled insults.
Guess what Obots, your candidate was never vetted at all and has run the most corrupt campaign in history.
Better get used to people like Natasha, and millions of others who will only make sure to find out about Obama especially if he does steal the Presidency.
get used to it. He will never escape the upcoming scrutiny.
Posted by: . | October 15, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
If he brings it up, it opens the door for him to get beat down by his Keating Scandal…
Posted by: Jersey Joe | October 15, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
– Guess what Obots, your candidate was never vetted at all and has run the most corrupt campaign in history. –
“McCain’s lies have ranged from the annoying to the sleazy, and the problem is in both degree and kind. His campaign has been a ceaseless assault on his opponent’s character and policies, featuring a consistent—and witting—disdain for the truth. Even after 38 million Americans heard Obama say in his speech at the Democratic National Convention that he was open to offshore oil-drilling and building new nuclear-power plants, McCain flatly said in his acceptance speech that Obama opposed both. Normal political practice would be for McCain to say, “Obama says he’s ‘open to’ offshore drilling, but he’s always opposed it. How can we believe him?” This persistence in repeating demonstrably false charges is something new in presidential politics.”
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1842030,00.html
Posted by: bennie | October 15, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
I’m dissappointed that Biden thinks that J-O-B-S is a three letter word. Maybe Obamas correct and we do need to spend more on Education – at least in Delaware and Scranton.
Posted by: Billy Romps | October 16, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am
Sen. Obama, experience matters. I have made many mistakes in my short life. It is true, when I think about it, that each of those mistakes are among my greatest assets with respect to decision making, each and every one of them. This is because we all learn from our mistakes. At all times, I believe the best of my judgment is anchored in the cement that is my experience. I believe firmly that the longer I live, the more I will have experienced, and the better my judgment will be, on the balance. Sen. Obama, do you really believe that you have made enough mistakes to be the next President of the United States? I respect your ambition. I respect your charisma. I embrace your place in history, but I do not believe you have sufficient experience to lead this planet, not even close.
America, since the mainstream media has failed to examine Sen. Obama’s experience and lack of experience, you will have to determine for yourselves what exactly is Sen. Obama’s experience? What did he accomplish in the Illinois legislature? He was only there for a handful of years. What did he promise he would accomplish? What did he accomplish in the U.S. Senate? He has only been on the job as a U.S. Senator for 1xx days. What did he promise he would accomplish? What has he changed in this world? This country? The Presidency of the United States is an executive position Sen. Obama. Do you have any executive experience? Have you created a budget, negotiated a budget, revised a budget or managed adherence to a budget?
You insist on presenting Sen. McCain’s experience as being only an puppet of the Bush administration. I saw Senator McCain stand up to President Bush’s Defense Secretary. He stood in a manner that no other did. He changed the course of the war in Iraq. What percentage of all GOP legislative votes sided with President Bush’s? What percentage of all Democrat legislative votes sided with Presidents Clinton, Carter and Johnson’s policies? I have no idea, but I’d venture to guess that, had the media presented that information to the American public, we’d find rank and file partisanship throughout our recent history. How many Americans would be surprise by that?
Well Senator Obama, you might be able to claim that you did not support the Iraq war resolution, but what can you offer as proof that it was the right decision at that moment in our history? You were after all in the small minority. Our country was after all reeling from the worst terror attack in our nation’s history. How would history have judged President Bush had he not led our troops into Iraq and then, a massive terror attack occurred yesterday, perpetrated by terrorists that lived and trained in Iraq over the past few years, with or without knowledge of Saddam Hussein? I think about it this way. History, failed to present enough evidence to push the World to coalesce and intervene in 1930s Europe. But modern history is 100% clear on that point, it would have been the correct decision. History might well judge the Iraq war to be not a right decision. History will judge the Bush administration on many points. One of those may even record it, in part, as a series of lapses in the judgment of a young President, swayed by the belief and conviction of an older, seasoned Vice President and the overwhelming circumstances of a world that had changed dramatically, in an instant. I agree with you that we don’t need another eight years of the Bush Administration, we dont need another eight years of an inexperienced President, Sen. Obama.
Posted by: Obama is a Joke | October 19, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm