Biden Teaches Political History to Carolina College Crowd
ABC News’ Matthew Jaffe Reports: Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., kicked off the last full week of the presidential campaign with a history lesson for students and supporters at East Carolina University, describing how past presidents had faced — and overcome — similar attacks to those currently being leveled at Sen. Barack Obama. D-Ill..
“Let me share a little bit of history with you,” the Democratic vice-presidential nominee began on the campus quad in Greenville, NC. “The defenders of the status quo, the defenders of the status quo, have always tried to tear down those who would change our nation for the better.”
“They said Thomas Jefferson wasn’t a real Christian, that was the essence of the campaign against him. Well, does that sound familiar?” Biden asked the crowd of 1500. “Ladies and gentlemen, they said Abraham Lincoln, they said he wanted to take away individual rights. Ladies and gentlemen, they said Franklin Roosevelt would destroy the American system of life. Sound familiar? And ladies and gentlemen, they said that John F. Kennedy was, quote, ‘a dangerous choice in difficult times.’ That’s what they said, they said John F. Kennedy was a dangerous choice in difficult times. Sound familiar?”
“Well, ladies and gentlemen, new ideas and new leaders are often met with new attacks and almost always negative attacks built on lies which are the last resort of those who have nothing new to offer,” noted Biden. “And that’s where we find ourselves.”
Biden said that Obama would follow this long line of past presidents in overcoming the lies and attacks to lead the country to “a better day.”
“Great presidents have always turned dire circumstances into real opportunities,” Biden pointed out. “In a turbulent economy, Barack Obama has demonstrated a steady hand. In a dangerous world, Barack Obama has demonstrated sound judgment. To a nation desperate for a better day, he offers new ideas, new leadership and real hope, ladies and gentlemen!”
Biden’s Monday morning Carolina rally continued his recent emphasis on the Tar Heel state, following three events last Thursday in Charlotte, Winston-Salem, and Raleigh. With Election Day looming just over a week away, Biden bellowed that Obama will be a "great president."
"Look, our problems, our problems are too big and for too long our politics has been too small. Barack Obama knows that we need to bring people together. Remind them, remind them of what we’ve overcome in the past and appeal to their better angels," Biden stated. "He knows that’s the way to unite America. Ladies and gentlemen, it may sound corny on a college campus to say it but it’s real, we are one nation under God, we are indivisible! We are all Americans, all of us! And ladies and gentlemen, that’s why I believe Barack Obama will be a great president of the United States of America!"

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Botox Joe being pawned off the colleges where he can do no damage. Six-Term Joe must be seethnig through his false teeth.
Posted by: geevill | October 27, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
Did he mention that from each according to his ability to each according to his need is what Zero wants to help the poor and equalize the wealth?
Posted by: d0 | October 27, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
What’s wrong with spreading wealth around? It sounds fair; after all, did not the Document say all men are born equal?
See, Zero is defending this Document on the basis of his fundamental philosophy of life. He is so Harvard smart, way above us poor, less-educated people who only know guns and god.
Posted by: d0 | October 27, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
I used to hear a lot of praise for George W Bush. I don’t hear it anymore.
Posted by: Reason | October 27, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
Teaching Political History this week… making Political History next week!
Posted by: Deep Release | October 27, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
Beware of what you vote for, you might get it.
Obama is to be feared.
Michelle is to be especially feared.
Posted by: allmost | October 27, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
History shows that the last time you elected someone whom you think he makes you feel good was George W. Bush.
0bama is even more “articulate and clean” who makes lots of feeling-good speeches.
Posted by: Atom | October 27, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
here’s a sample of what the type of interview from Florida would look like
directed towards McCain/Palin.
- Sen. McCain, You”ve made statements referring to “100 years of war”, are you an imperialist?
- Sen. McCain, due to your years of captivity, how can American”s know you were not brainswashed by the Viet Cong, putting forth a secret agenda to turn the U.S. into a communist state?
- Gov. Palin, with your previous radical associations, how can you ensure the American voters that you do not intend to eventually secede Alaska from the United States and found a Christian Faith based nation there?
- Gov Palin, you”ve made statements looking to extend the power of the Vice Presidency, well beyond that already claimed by VP Cheney, are you a dictator?
- Sen. McCain, with your tax policies and ties to the top tier in business and income earners, do you intend to turn this country into an oligarch or aristocracy?
Posted by: karronna | October 27, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
I love Governor Palin and Senator McCain and think they will do so much positive for this country and the people.
Beware of the left wing liberal media, they can tell no truths.
Posted by: me | October 27, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
whos trying to learn biden some history, we was watching tv during the depression……
Posted by: soso | October 27, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
karronna, you need to do more research, with unbiased attitude
Posted by: mirror | October 27, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
History shows that the last time you elected someone whom you think he makes you feel good was George W. Bush.
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He also didn’t run his own campaign, his campaign was negative, and like his campaign his presidency was run by his handlers.
Does that sound like McCain to you? it does to me.
Posted by: Thinking | October 27, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
“If you look at the victories and failures of the civil rights movement and its litigation strategy in the court. I think where it succeeded was to invest formal rights in previously dispossessed people, so that now I would have the right to vote. I would now be able to sit at the lunch counter and order as long as I could pay for it I’d be o.k. But, the Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth, and of more basic issues such as political and economic justice in society.” Barack Obama
Why does Barack Obama believe the mission of the Supreme Court is to re-distribute wealth in America? I’m no lawyer, but how does the Supreme Court have any role in deciding such a thing? Listening to these words from Senator Obama, it sounds like he thinks that the Supreme Court should not only make sure that blacks get a right to “sit at the lunch counter,” but should also make sure they get a bigger piece of the economic pie. Isn’t that what people are supposed to do themselves? I grew up poor, got an education, worked hard and bettered myself. And I did it all without the Supreme Court’s help.
Posted by: This is Crazy! | October 27, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
Biden puts it in perspective. Nice job. The zealots who listen to Hannity and Limbaugh won’t understand but the students in North Carolina get it. Lucky for America our future is on the college campuses across the country, not hunkered down in the basement listening to hot-talk radio.
Posted by: Steve from Danville | October 27, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
mirror…
Same to you.
Stung a little eh?
Posted by: karronna | October 27, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
This is Crazy..
well I think you said it all when you said “I’m no lawyer”…Read the whole quote in context…course you probably won’t understand anymore then than you did before.
Posted by: karronna | October 27, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
Biden gets it. The college kids understand it. The Hannity clones who worship Limbaugh don’t have a clue. The clones and ditto heads wouldn’t have an original thought unless they heard it first from Hannity or Limbaugh or Fox News.
Posted by: Steve from Danville | October 27, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
Yes, John McCain’s campaign is a tired cliche. It’s only the low-IQ GOP dead-enders who can’t see it.
All of the smart conservatives have left the building.
Posted by: ed | October 27, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
mirror,
how’s this for research….
John McCain’s nickname with his fellow soldiers at Hanoi was “songbird”.
Posted by: karronna | October 27, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
…..and they criticize Palin??? What a nothing Biden is !! A stuffed shirt running with an empty shirt !! I hope the students had a good laugh..or maybe a good cry..LOL
Posted by: Lorraine McKinnon | October 27, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
Fox News complains about media bias toward Obama but they have it all wrong. The bias is AGAINST the Republican politicians who lied about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, lied about the politicization of the Department of Justice under Alberto Gonzales, mangled our Constitution with signing agreements, and promoted torture in Abu Gharib. That’s the bias. We don’t trust Republicans to tell the truth.
Posted by: Steve from Danville | October 27, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
Republicans have been lying to America for 8 years. Now they have to be spanked with an 8-year time out. What will it take for the GOP to restore it’s credibility? That’s a good question. Except for Hagel and Lugar they have no ethical leadership.
Posted by: Steve from Danville | October 27, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
Same old identity politics… WHERE IS THE DAMN POLICY??? ANYONE!!! No we gotta vote for an empty suit with no experience, or a madman, who is just as incompetent as his successor. DOn’t blame the Republicans for the fact that YOU gave idiot Bush not one but TWO terms. And NOW you want another inexperienced nicomPOOP!!! Way to go America! Finish us off, once and for all! Bush gave us Russian/Soviet foreign policy of Empire and Occupation, and NOW Obama is being installed to implement Russian/Soviet economic policy!!! People STOP getting your buttons pushed by the Presidential puppeteers who are controlled by the multinational bankers. Vote 3rd party or not at at all… These two are soldiers of the corporate crime syndicate, nothing more nothing less. But if you really want to vote for the errand boy of those who enslave you, feel free to support the system and cast your vote for either one of these two empty suits…
Posted by: hmn | October 27, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
socialist, difference spreading the wealth…etc etc
used on everyone from Lincoln to FDR to washington to Adams and franklin
our greatest Presidents all called the same names that the RNC is using on Obama
if there wasn’t a better endorsement than that…
Posted by: dl | October 27, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
We are in the End Times. Voter beware
Posted by: Roman | October 27, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
What I think Obama’s tax plan will mean for us.
http://nevadapundit.wordpress.com/2008/10/20/what-obamas-tax-plan-means-to-the-middle-and-lower-class/
Posted by: NevadaPundit | October 27, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
wow, the good polling numbers for Obama/Biden is like spraying roach spray – all of the cockroaches come out of the woodwork. These were brilliant points by Biden. We shouldn’t reduce ourselves to the likes of Limbaugh and hate radio, but rather move on as it is our turn to play with the ball. The Democrats certainly cant screw up the economy any worse than it is now.
Posted by: KeepOurJobsSafe | October 27, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
QUESTION FOR ALL MCCAIN SUPPORTERS:
Is John McCain today willing to come out against all forms of ‘redistributing the wealth’, including:
A) the progressive tax code
B) Social Security
C) Medicare
D) unemployment insurance
E) all local property taxes
F) all local sales taxes
FOLLOW UP QUESTION:
Is John McCain a socialist?
Posted by: John | October 27, 2008, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm
I respect Joe Biden’s service at the senate. But is he physically and emotionally fit to be a VP? He sounds so weired and drunk sometimes. He asked “is that a joke” to his TV interviewer yesterday. He called out McCain name as “John McClain” at NASCAR event and gave weired speech or joke that no one got it. The other day, a reporter asked about his “mark my words” comment and he was acting like he didn’t even hear the reporter’s question. At one rally, he introduced his wife “This is my wife Jill…ohh…yes… and I’m her husband”. He acts funny and I’m worried that with Obama’s lack of experince and Joe’s weired acting might not make a good team to lead this country.
He failed to show his brain scan in his medical report and I heard that he had some kind of neuro problem few years back. He’s suppose to boost Obama’s weakness and I’m not sure how he’s going to help Obama.
Joe Biden is the one who has said “I’ll be honored to serve with/for John McCain” in his previous primiries. What made him change that soon.
I like him better than Obama but I’m reluctant to vote for their ticket.
Posted by: Zoe | October 27, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
He also didn’t run his own campaign, his campaign was negative, and like his campaign his presidency was run by his handlers.
Posted by: Thinking | Oct 27, 2008 1:31:41 PM
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You such a racist pig. Our Savior is positive, never lied to you and never baited.
Posted by: Atom | October 27, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
A) the progressive tax code
B) Social Security
C) Medicare
D) unemployment insurance
E) all local property taxes
F) all local sales taxes
FOLLOW UP QUESTION:
Is John McCain a socialist?
Posted by: John | Oct 27, 2008 2:10:18 PM
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Let’s have a race on who the biggest socialist is to run America.
Mr. Constitution Scholar has educated you well.
Posted by: d0 | October 27, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
Did he tell them about FDR getting on TV to address the nation about the 1929 stock market collapse? Or maybe that he doesnt even know the full duties of the Veep and Palin did? LOL!
Posted by: MBNA Joe | October 27, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
allmost>>>> the only one you fear is yourself for starting hate People like you Mc Cain and Palin should be sent straight to hell.
Posted by: NH voter | October 27, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
P U M A still lives.
Posted by: about | October 27, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
P U M A still lives.
Posted by: almost | October 27, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
P u m a for McCain.
Posted by: karronna | October 27, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
The Republican “MakeOver.v7 of John McCain want help the “Good ‘ol Boy” John McCain/Sarah Palin ticket.
John McCain can live out his life peacefully in one of his 7 or 8 homes and Sarah Palin can finish her term as Governor of Alaska.
McCain’s best days are behind him.
Posted by: Lookup | October 27, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
I am a democrat who, for the first time, will be voting Republican this year. My reasons:
1. The unfair and horrible way Hillary Clinton was treated by the democratic party and the media
2. Obama’s inexperience
3. Obama’s past ant-American associations (Ayers and muslims)
4. Obama’s unpatriotic attitude –always putting down USA
5. Obama’s socialistic economic plan
6. Obama’s and his wife’s angry attitude towards America
7. Obama campaign’s dangerous association with foreign donors who gave hundreds of millions of dollars to him
8. Obama campaign’s close relationship with ACORN
9. Obama’s pastor who said “God damn America” again and again (and Obama seems to agree with him)
There is no way that I will be voting for a shady politician like Barack Hussein Obama.
I am a proud American and will only vote for a true American(democrat or republican) like Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin.
Posted by: Robertson | October 27, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
Robertson: Were you really going to vote for Hillary I doubt it? You sound like just another republican trying to steal the election.
Posted by: Lookup | October 27, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
biden thinks it is corny to repeat the phrase ‘one nation under God…’ incredible/
MR. STATUS QUO biden has been feeding at the public trough his whole life and yet he condemns the status quo?
Posted by: nevada 2 | October 27, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
At least Biden knows his History more then we can say for Sara, she doesnt even know the Constitution
Posted by: Angie | October 27, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
Let’s see, what’s more important, not knowing when TV broadcasts began or not knowing the responsibilities of the job you are trying to convince people you are qualified to handle?? It’s a lot harder to inspire people to take a chance on a more hopeful future; it’s a lot easier to attempt to frighten them with the Politics of Fear.
BTW, Biden was only half wrong about FDR: he referred to Franklin Delano Roosevelt, not President Roosevelt, who did go on the RADIO in 1929 as Governor of New York to reassure people.
Posted by: mila | October 27, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
Wow, how nuanced…Democrats (and Abe) good and fighters for justice, all others evil trolls. Thanks for the “history lesson” prof!
Posted by: Wade | October 27, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
Robertson: Were you really going to vote for Hillary I doubt it? You sound like just another republican trying to steal the election. Posted by: Lookup
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Lookup – There are many supporters of Hillary (the one who got more votes than any other presidential primary candidiate in history) who are STILL outraged at the unfair treatment she received from the Obama campaign (race baiting) and the media.
BELIEVE IT!
Posted by: ch | October 27, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
I have voted Republican in the past, but no way can I vote for McCain. My reasons:
1. McCain’s close association with domestic terrorist G. Gordon Liddy
2. His oppostion to the new GI Bill
3. The 83 Wall St. lobbyists working on his campaign
4. McCain’s “no” votes on veterans health care
5. McCain’s eagerness for a confrontation with Iran
6. McCain’s $214,000 from Charles Keating
7. McCain’s 17 votes for de-regulation of financial services industry (before he decided we needed more regulation)
8. McCain would tax my health benefits
9. McCain voted against a mandatory rest period for troops between deployments
10. McCain’s campaing director was a paid lobbyist for Freddie/Fannie
11. McCain will not give my income group a tax cut
There is no way I can vote for a slippery, flip-flopping, hot-headed Washington insider like John McCain.
I am a loyal American and will only vote for a true Americans like Obama and Biden.
Posted by: William J. LePetomaine | October 27, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
Why does Barack Obama believe the mission of the Supreme Court is to re-distribute wealth in America? I’m no lawyer, but how does the Supreme Court have any role in deciding such a thing? Listening to these words from Senator Obama, it sounds like he thinks that the Supreme Court should not only make sure that blacks get a right to “sit at the lunch counter,” but should also make sure they get a bigger piece of the economic pie. Isn’t that what people are supposed to do themselves? I grew up poor, got an education, worked hard and bettered myself. And I did it all without the Supreme Court’s help.
Posted by: This is Crazy! | Oct 27, 2008 1:33:09 PM
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You are missing the point and yes, it is obvious you are “no lawyer”….
The context of the clip is the civil rights movement, and the commonplace observation (began with MLK) that the ’60s movement succeeded in winning African-Americans legal rights but stopped short of lifting them out of poverty.
Posted by: just curious | October 27, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
Robertson: Were you really going to vote for Hillary I doubt it? You sound like just another republican trying to steal the election. Posted by: Lookup
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Lookup – There are many supporters of Hillary (the one who got more votes than any other presidential primary candidiate in history) who are STILL outraged at the unfair treatment she received from the Obama campaign (race baiting) and the media.
BELIEVE IT!
Posted by: ch | October 27, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
P U M A still lives.
_______________________
in the wild and at the zoo…
Posted by: Get Real | October 27, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
Lookup – There are many supporters of Hillary (the one who got more votes than any other presidential primary candidiate in history) who are STILL outraged at the unfair treatment she received from the Obama campaign (race baiting) and the media.
BELIEVE IT!
Posted by: ch | Oct 27, 2008 2:48:14 PM
But it won’t be enough to elect McCain.
Posted by: d | October 27, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
McCain used the term “redistribute wealth” long before Obama did. Let’s face it, folks. They were both talking about TAX POLICY! Context is extremely important.
Posted by: William J. LePetomaine | October 27, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
OMG, you PUMAs! Hillary GOT BEAT! Get over it. Obama got more votes and delegates. That’s how it works. If you traitors want to vote for McCain, go ahead. Then stay in your little panty-in-a-knot snit for the next 8 years.
Posted by: William J. LePetomaine | October 27, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
The problem is that Obama IS a socialist with Marxist ideology that IS NOT a rumor. Bringing up history doesn’t change that Mr. Biden.
Obama is endorsed by the Communist Party of the U.S. That is a fact. Go to their website.
So, the questions posed to Biden accusing Obama with having Marxist ideals is very legitimate and should be a red flag to everyone in assessing Obama’s values.
You vote for Obama, you are voting for a communist party endorsed candidate.
Government works for us, we do not work for government… Government is our servant.
The general Government does not insure fairness or protection! Our Constitution does!.. Our Constitution protects us FROM government! It protects our rights & freedoms to succeed or fail… FROM government! It protects our freedom to Life, Liberty and Pursuit of Happiness… FROM government!
Our Constitution puts limits on our government not to interfere in our everyday lives; Our General Government exists to DEFEND OUR WAY OF LIFE, not constrain it, provide for it, or redistribute it!
That is what makes our way of life different from any other on this planet!
We have a Constitution that protects us, the people, from government! The Communist Doctrine protects government from the people! By turning government into master & provider!
This is the United States. You work for what you want… this country offers the facilities for anyone who is black, white, purple, green or yellow to pursue happiness and achieve wealth if you want it, and at the same time also allows you to fail… The choice is yours. No one will hand it to you! The general Government is sworn to defend, preserve and protect that way of life, OUR CONSTITUTION… Government owes nothing to anyone. They are our servants.
Any public official that takes the oath of office and then ignores his/her oath is im-perjuring him/herself and tantamount to treason against the US.
Our system is not broken… It is those who we put in charge that are broken.
For the life of me, why would anyone of this great country vote for someone who is endorsed by the Communist Party? An ideology that wants to take your hard earned money and give it to someone else who hasn’t earned it, an ideology that wants to outlaw the opposition, destroy our Constitution, our way of life, and replace it with Soviet style central planning and regulation. Yes, our elected servants can make mistakes and become self serving, but it is our responsibility to fire those who fail and replace them with those who defend and protect our Constitution! Not someone who will take the oath of office and then immediately perform perjury by ignoring our Constitution and be self serving to his/her own self interests and ideology!
America is a Capitalist system and a system of individualism!
I VOTE FOR CAPITALISTS NOT COMMUNISTS!
VOTE FOR THOSE WHO WILL DEFEND OUR CONSTITUION AND FREEDOMS, NOT THOSE WHO SEEK TO DESTROY IT AND CONTROL US!
IT IS WHO WE ARE, AND WHAT MAKES US THE MOST SUCCESSFUL AND MOST POWERFUL COUNTRY ON EARTH THAT EVERYONE ELSE ENVIES!
“The inherent virtue of Capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings…
The inherent virtue of Socialism is the equal sharing of misery.”
-Winston S. Churchill
“The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.” ~Ben Franklin.
Why doesn’t the DNC adopt the Hammer & Sickle as their new logo.
Posted by: Bellagio | October 27, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
McCranky voted against Bush’s tax cuts in 2001 because they were “weighted too heavily against middle class and working Americans”. In other words, the redistributed wealth upwards. Of course, he flipped on this issue to get the nomination. Also, and I say this seriously, Sen. McCain is very tired and his left eye lid is drooping again. I don’t like the campaign he has run, but I wish him no ill will. He needs some rest.
Posted by: B. Bear | October 27, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
Hey Sarah! Do you really believe that the earth is only 6000 years old, and that dinosaurs and humans actually walked the earth at the same time, and that you saw pictures of human footprints inside dinosaur tracks???
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/28/palin-claimed-dinosaurs-a_n_130012.html
Posted by: samurai | October 27, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
Since age seems to be an issue in this election, if Biden dies in office Obama selects a new vice president, if McCain dies in office, God help us!
Posted by: samurai | October 27, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
Talking points… Is all a republican has to say… Give me substance and I’ll give you my vote… Give me a talking point and I’ll give you one back… Same ole political game… Words that really don’t matter…
Posted by: gwilsing | October 27, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
A truly “Christian nation” like this one takes pride in calling itself for the most part, should be concerned and active in the lives of it’s less fortunate.A plan to releive the burdens on this nations struggling should NOT be attacked. Alot of this garbage being spoken against the Obama campaign and plan is just that.Obama= Hope& Change.McCain = More of the Same
Posted by: TV | October 27, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
“Is John McCain a socialist?”
No. Did you know Obama ran under the Democratic Socialists of America’s New Party?
Posted by: geevill | October 27, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
Biden giving a history lesson?
FDR speaking on television in 1929.
Who on earth gave Biden his lessons??
Posted by: SandyB | October 27, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
“Did you know Obama ran under the Democratic Socialists of America’s New Party?”
Did you know McCain is a traitor?
Posted by: samurai | October 27, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
Obama is the leader for our time.he is the face of our new America where all have an opportunity.He is wise intelligent and you know he has the grace and grit neccessary to face, solve and work on our problems ahead.McCain needs to retire and be the GrandMarshall at a parade.
Posted by: TV | October 27, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
Spreqading the wealth does not mean we are going to take from the rich and give to the poor. We all will be paying our fair share of taxes. The rich as you often see that they don’t pay any because they use all the loop holes they can and pay none if not very little. It is time they pay their share.We have taxes on food, movies, clothes, gas etc and etc that we all have to pay. The rich if Wash get so many things free. Look at Palin’s kids, they should be in school and they are out on the trail with her. How can she run an office if they are around her like a piece of gum? She won’t have time to think.Think? We should have put those trillions of dollars in Iraq to good use here and why pay when they have trillions of dollars over there? Remember the invasion? They were loaded and we are using our money? We need that for the people here losing their jobs, houses and colleges…But Bush had better plans. The surge is working, ok but if you have a glass of milk and spill it, you clean it up but if you had not spilled it you would not have to clean it up. Same with Iraq, we should not have gone there, enough is enough….Let them clean their milk up.
Posted by: mr | October 27, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
Bellagio – If “less taxes on the middle class/more taxes for the rich” qualifies as income redistribution, then how is “less taxes on the rich/more taxes for the middle class” any different??
Also, you seem pretty obsessed with the state of our “constitution” so where in that document does it cover the spying on its own citizens via the Patriot Act?
Posted by: just curious | October 27, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
On the same day that ABC posts a commentary on liberal bias in the mainstream media, it posts a story entitled “McCain to Attack Obama for Public Radio Comments from 2001.” One of the ideas McCain “attacked” was Obama’s belief that legislators should work to redistribute wealth through the passage of laws. What Obama did not touch on in that interview was that our country already attempts to redistribute wealth through progressive taxation, social security, medicare, and a host of other social programs that most people support. Shouldn’t the title of the ABC story be something like, “In 2001 Obama Advocated Further Redistribution of Wealth by Congress.” Instead, we get a headline designed to reinforce the idea that John McCain is once again attacking poor baby Obama for no good reason. Thanks, ABC, for posting the Michael Malone piece lambasting the mainstream media for its shameless left-wing bias. And thank you for proving his point.
Posted by: Carrie | October 27, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
i supported hillary over barack but there is NO WAY in hell I’d vote for mccain. You Dems who are don’t have a clue. Really. Get over your hurt feelings and move on. 4 more years of these clowns (republicans) and you will regret it.
Posted by: bob | October 27, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
I was always brought up to earn a living, not to be given one. BOTH candidates seem to promise us that they will both give us a living. Humans are lazy by nature, Hence we will always try to work as little as possible and expect the biggest rewards. The government has expanded its role little by little. We need a candidate that will give us less government and allow the people the right to govern themselves. Either McCain or Obama will take for the government and do little to supposedly help any of us.
Posted by: will it end | October 27, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
In 2001 John McCain said that Iraq was probably behind the anthrax attacks and probably also had something to do with 9/11.
yeah, right. that’s the leadership we need.
Posted by: bob | October 27, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
McCain + Liddy + Palin + Keating + 83 paid Wall St. Lobbyists + 17 votes for de-regulation =
POOR JUDGMENT
Posted by: William J. LePetomaine | October 27, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
STILL WAITING FOR ONE REPUBLICAN WITH THE BALLS TO ANSWER THIS SIMPLE QUESTION:
Is John McCain willing today to call for an end to all policies to ‘redistribute the wealth’, including the following:
A) the progressive tax code
B) Social Security
C) Medicare
D) unemployment insurance
E) all local property taxes
F) all local sales taxes
FOLLOW UP QUESTION:
Is John McCain a socialist?
Posted by: John | October 27, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
Obama socialist, McCain socialist. It’s just one thing after another:
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k204/fletchd98/1thingafteranother.gif
Posted by: samurai | October 27, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
Instead, we get a headline designed to reinforce the idea that John McCain is once again attacking poor baby Obama for no good reason
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Obama was discussing “redistribution” in the context of a legal discussion about civil rights. He was discussing whether the courts should make the things that guarantee a social safety net — education, welfare, and the like — court-mandated rights.
Obama was arguing that legislative action was a preferable vehicle for accomplishing such goals.
If McCain disagrees with Obama’s argument that the courts aren’t the primary place to accomplish such things, he should say so.
Lets have a debate about what the true context of the radio clip is and McCain can go over his Civil Rights record and elaborate why he disagrees with Obama and the premise of the Civil Rights movement.
Posted by: facts DO INDEED matter | October 27, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
This has to be some kind of joke!
The man who thinks that Franklin
Roosevelt was president in 1929
during the “crash” and went on TV to
calm the nation is teaching people
history!
Hey Joe here’s some future history for you:
On November 4th, 2008 Barack Obama and
Joe Biden will lose the election to
John McCain and Sarah Palin!
The turning point in the campaign
occurred when Joe Biden guaranteed that
Barack Obama would be tested by an
international crisis within his
first 6 months in office!
A vast majority of the remaining
undecided voters broke for John McCain
on election day!
Posted by: reaganfan | October 27, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
John – I’m with you. I’m still waiting for an answer to my question:
If “less taxes on the middle class/more taxes for the rich” qualifies as income redistribution, then how is “less taxes on the rich/more taxes for the middle class” any different??
Posted by: just curious | October 27, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
Jonh- I think the question should be stated as- Is either candidate willing today to call for an end to all policies to ‘redistribute the wealth’, including the following:
A) the progressive tax code
B) Social Security
C) Medicare
D) unemployment insurance
E) all local property taxes
F) all local sales taxes
FOLLOW UP QUESTION
Are Obama and McCain socialists?
Posted by: will it end | October 27, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
reaganfan, hate to burst your bubble there in La-La Land, but the undecideds are not enough to put McCain over the top.
Posted by: William J. LePetomaine | October 27, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
Biden giving history lessons!!
Like Biden said to Florida news anchor Barbara West:
“Is this a joke??”
Posted by: SandyB | October 27, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
hey reaganfan-
i’m sorry. It’s gonna hurt. but not long. 4 years I guess, maybe 8. i know how you feel. trust me. it’s gonna take a lot of us a long time to get over the past 8 years. but you can do it. you betcha!
Posted by: bob | October 27, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
The joke is Sarah Palin.
Posted by: samurai | October 27, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
http://web.archive.org/web/20010127032300/news.crosswalk.com/politics/item/0,1875,317134,00.htm
Chicago (CNSNews.com) – A Illinois state Senator is proposing to cure the alleged problem of “overvotes” and “undervotes” for political candidates on election day – an issued hyped relentlessly in Florida during the 2000 presidential election – by letting local precinct workers here to give oral instructions to confused voters.
But local conservatives see the legislation as reactionary and characterize it as a throwback to the “bad old days” of ward politics, where party operatives manipulated and intimidated local voters, leading, it is speculated, to Richard Nixon’s loss of Illinois in the 1960 presidential election.
Obama said that his “simple proposal” would enable precinct workers to provide “oral instructions” to voters who fear that they may have made an error when punching a ballot.
“There are a lot of people who make these voting errors, are aware of the mistake, but don’t know what to do about it,” says Obama. “This will be a useful reminder for the voters. The election judges will, if this is passed, be able to inform voters that they can obtain a new ballot.”
But Joseph A. Morris, a prominent local conservative, president of the Lincoln Legal Foundation, and a former Reagan administration lawyer, was concerned that the legislation might actually facilitate voter fraud in Chicago.
“The goal should be to eliminate voter fraud, not enhance it,” says Morris. “This bill is a throwback to the bad old days of ward politics in Chicago. Precinct workers used to step into the voting booths and ‘correct’ ballots for voters. The possibility of someone reviving that practice is frightening.”
OBAMA tried to do away with secret voting so his thugs could initmidate voters.
Posted by: geevill | October 27, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
– OBAMA tried to do away with secret voting so his thugs could initmidate voters. –
Did you bother even reading the article you posted before you came up with that conclusion? Apparently, your reading comprehension skills are severely lacking.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 27, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
I hope the Socialist Democrats do get the Fairness Doctrine reinstated. I look forward to seeing stronger conservative voices on the Daily Kos, the Huffington Post, CBS, MSNBC, Newsweek and their ilk. I don’t think Keith Blabbermouth will mind sharing his mike time with some up and coming Sean Hannity wannabee, do you? Under the Fairness Doctrine, I actually might tune back into MSNBC once in a while – just to watch Blabbermouth sputter and spew his vitriol while his conservative counterpart sits patiently, waiting his turn to air his views. Won’t the Fairness Doctrine be fun? Think of all the new business for the lawyers! Lots of lawsuits and class action suits on behalf of conservatives denied a voice on the Obama news networks. We can tie up the mainstream networks in lawsuits for the next 20 years. I want to see MSNBC Hannitized!!!!!
Posted by: Sean Hannity Rocks! | October 27, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
FYI everyone, Obama was born in Kenya and is legally NOT allowed to be president, just like Arnold Schwarzenager (born in Europe).
Look it up on you tube as Obama’s certificate and you will see a DEMOCRAT’s view.
Posted by: Carrie | October 27, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
Keep clinging carrie – what next? I can imagine it now:
FLASH: Obama trying to spread illness to rally members.
Totay in Des Moines, Presidential candidate Barack Obama sneezed into a crown of supporters in an attempt to spread illness. This was an obvious attempt to emphasize the need for his health insurance plan by starting a flu epidemic. While he did cover his mouth with a handkerchief, officials within the GOP say they have evidence that it was of dubious quality and was designed to allow the germs to freely pass, merely giving the impression that he was taking appropriate precautions.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 27, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
Ok.. So Kennedy brought us to the closest brink of nuclear war before and since that time.. So I guess he was “risky” and FDR brought us the New Deal, which is now being shown to actually have extended the great depression, not get us out of it, so I guess he did help destroy the American way of life.. So Biden, where’s your argument?
Posted by: Horse Rider | October 27, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
Horse Rider ,
It is The Obama campaign it does have to add up it must be great if one of the two Idiots say it.
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 27, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
John – I’m with you. I’m still waiting for an answer to my question:
If “less taxes on the middle class/more taxes for the rich” qualifies as income redistribution, then how is “less taxes on the rich/more taxes for the middle class” any different??
Posted by: just curious | Oct 27, 2008 3:34:38 PM
Because he will be rasing taxes on all who pay taxes and handing out checks to those that dont.McCain is not rasing anyones taxes,and if you look at the cost to the nation it is less under McCain than under oBamas
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 27, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
John – I’m with you. I’m still waiting for an answer to my question:
If “less taxes on the middle class/more taxes for the rich” qualifies as income redistribution, then how is “less taxes on the rich/more taxes for the middle class” any different??
Posted by: just curious | Oct 27, 2008 3:34:38 PM
Because he will be rasing taxes on all who pay taxes and handing out checks to those that dont.McCain is not rasing anyones taxes,and if you look at the cost to the nation it is less under McCain than under oBamas
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 27, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
Concerned American,
You are so funny….and an ignoramus, so I’ll excuse you. You probably did not look up the DEM’s view on the birth certificate because you are afraid of the truth, dingaling.
Posted by: Carrie | October 27, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
– Because he will be rasing taxes on all who pay taxes and handing out checks to those that dont.McCain is not rasing anyones taxes,and if you look at the cost to the nation it is less under McCain than under oBamas –
Your facts are incorrect.
If you fall under the $250K limit, you will be paying less in income taxes than you would under McCain. And if you look at how each ones plans will raise the national debt, McCain will raise it by $4.2 trillion over 10 years, Obama will raise it by $2.9 trillion over 10 years.
http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/
Posted by: Concerned American | October 27, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
Biden? History? Did he tell them once again about FDR putting the nation at ease when the stock market crashed in 1929 on national television? What a clown. Go get another face lift, working class joe!
Posted by: Rob | October 27, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
reddog-
A recent study by the Tax Policy Center shows that a hard working individual with a total income of $19,000 would see a $100 savings under McCain’s plan compared to a $900 savings under Obama’s plan. So what happens to that $800 under McCain’s plan? All of that money, plus some, instead goes to the family that makes $225,000, where McCain’s plan gives them $4,400 in tax breaks instead of the $2,800 in tax breaks that Obama’s plan does.
In other words, McCain takes $800 from someone making $19,000 a year and gives it to the family that makes $225,000.
Posted by: Just curious | October 27, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
William J Lepetomaine and Bob!
Dream on! It has been proven by the
New York Times no less that the
1.3 million newly registered voters
by Acorn are only about
400,000! Acorn’s registration figures
are way off and so are the
Liberal News Media polls!
The fallacy of averaging the polls as
Real Clear Politics does is that it
is an inaccurate system!
If the NYt/CBS give Obama a 14 point
lead and two other polls give Obama
aa 4 point lead when you add them
together and divide by 3 you get an
Obama lead of 7+ points!
It is likely that there is a flaw in the
NYT/CBS poll.
The true lead would appear to be 4
points which would be close to the
margin of error.
As your hero Dopey Joe Biden would
say, “mark my words” McCain/Palin
will win the only poll that counts on
Novemeber 4th!
Posted by: reaganfan | October 27, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
reddog-
A recent study by the Tax Policy Center shows that a hard working individual with a total income of $19,000 would see a $100 savings under McCain’s plan compared to a $900 savings under Obama’s plan. So what happens to that $800 under McCain’s plan? All of that money, plus some, instead goes to the family that makes $225,000, where McCain’s plan gives them $4,400 in tax breaks instead of the $2,800 in tax breaks that Obama’s plan does.
In other words, McCain takes $800 from someone making $19,000 a year and gives it to the family that makes $225,000.
Posted by: Just curious
Someone making 19,000 is not paying income tax!!!!
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 27, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
– You are so funny….and an ignoramus, so I’ll excuse you. You probably did not look up the DEM’s view on the birth certificate because you are afraid of the truth, dingaling. –
That horse has been beaten to death.. but you are free to continue doing so if it makes you feel any better.
Get the book that started it all, Jerome Corsi’s “The Obama Nation,” autographed by the author, exclusively from WND’s online store for the amazing low price of just $4.95.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 27, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
– Someone making 19,000 is not paying income tax!!!! –
According to the 2007 IRS Tax Tables, an individual with a taxable income of $19,000 pays $2,463 in federal income tax (if filing single. or $2,071 if filing jointly).
Posted by: Concerned American | October 27, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
Making 19,000 and agi of 19,000 is two diffrent things concerned
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 27, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
– Making 19,000 and agi of 19,000 is two diffrent things concerned –
You are taxed based on your taxable income. Being obtuse does not help your claims.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 27, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
Concerned American,
I dont see where it says McCains would raise our debt by what you say the only thing I found is a reduction of tax revenue in those amounts you state
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 27, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
Someone making 19,000 is not paying income tax!!!!
_________________________________________
Americans making that amount seem to know they owe about 15% in INCOME TAX!
Posted by: just curious | October 27, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
- Making 19,000 and agi of 19,000 is two diffrent things concerned –
You are taxed based on your taxable income. Being obtuse does not help your claims.
Posted by: Concerned American | Oct 27, 2008 5:13:55 PM
I am not He saying making I said someone making thats all
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 27, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
Posted by: reddog0216
Someone making 19,000 is not paying income tax.
If you don’t know the difference between tax and income tax, you might want to ask someone to explain it to you.
Posted by: lijaha | October 27, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
Posted by: reddog0216
Someone making 19,000 is not paying income tax.
If you don’t know the difference between tax and income tax, you might want to ask someone to explain it to you.
Posted by: lijaha | Oct 27, 2008 5:23:34 PM
Can you explain it to me?
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 27, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
– I dont see where it says McCains would raise our debt by what you say the only thing I found is a reduction of tax revenue in those amounts you state –
Are you really serious? What do you call ‘reduction of tax revenue’ when we currently can’t even pay for what we are spending?
Posted by: Concerned American | October 27, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
Concerned American,
No that does not mean we cant reel in what we are spending Obamas plan calls for a worse deficit using you theory if we keep the revenue the same and includes both canidates spending proposal Obamas plan leads to a larger deficit
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 27, 2008, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
Robertson – you’re no Democrat.
Democrats don’t listen to the radical right news you apparently subscribe to.
Posted by: Julie | October 27, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
Ok, lets take your example of an individual “making” $19,000 a year.. say a typical student working at Publix as a bag boy.
Based on 2007 return data, that individual would have one exemption (himself) worth $5,350. AGI is still $19,000, but taxable income would be $13,650. Federal income tax paid on that amount is $1,653 (2007 data).
Under Obamas proposed tax plan, that indivudial would see their income tax reduced by somewhere between $769 and $912 ($10K-20K bracket). Under McCains plan, that individual would see no tax reduction.
http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/numbers/displayatab.cfm?Docid=1975&DocTypeID=7
Posted by: Concerned American | October 27, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
– No that does not mean we cant reel in what we are spending Obamas plan calls for a worse deficit using you theory if we keep the revenue the same and includes both canidates spending proposal Obamas plan leads to a larger deficit –
Exact opposite.. at least Obama does generate revenue in the form of modest tax increases to the top 5% (although he has stated that it would be less than we saw under Clinton or Regan).
TPC estimates: McCain would raise the national debt by $4.2 trillion over 10 years. Obama by $2.9 over the same period.
http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/
McCain would have to come up with more spending cuts just to catch up to Obama without any cuts.
As for health plans, Both cost roughly the same, $1.6 trillion over 10 years for Obama, $1.3 trillion for McCain.. however, Obamas plan would cover more Americans and be more efficent at doing so. It would also generate an additional $140 billion in annual savings for companies providing health insurance coverage for employees, while McCain, like his tax plan simply favors the wealthy and would result in more americans losing coverage.
http://www.epi.org/content.cfm/pm126
Posted by: Concerned American | October 27, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
Concerned American,
I agree he would see no reduction he is paying less than 10% in taxes where is the problem
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 27, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
McCain would have to come up with more spending cuts just to catch up to Obama without any cuts.
As for health plans, Both cost roughly the same, $1.6 trillion over 10 years for Obama, $1.3 trillion for McCain.. however, Obamas plan would cover more Americans and be more efficent at doing so. It would also generate an additional $140 billion in annual savings for companies providing health insurance coverage for employees, while McCain, like his tax plan simply favors the wealthy and would result in more americans losing coverage.
http://www.epi.org/content.cfm/pm126
I dont believe it would be a savings If your only choice is a goverment sponsored program that must accept eveyone regardless of health Do you really think it will go down in cost???
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 27, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
I still can not find this tpc deficit comparison please put a link because I am missing it and I am very curious.
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 27, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
I have to run but I will research it some more if you post it
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 27, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
– I dont believe it would be a savings If your only choice is a goverment sponsored program that must accept eveyone regardless of health Do you really think it will go down in cost??? –
Obamas plan would lower costs due to insertion of high risk patients into a larger pool of insured patients. McCain on the other hand wants to create a ‘high risk’ pool that would actually increase costs.. as the analysis says:
“The Center estimates that McCain’s high-risk pool proposal, if adequately financed, could add another $1 trillion to the cost of his plan over 10 years. This feature is likely to be expensive for two reasons: 1) allowing people to buy coverage across state lines would remove existing consumer protections in some states, leading many people who currently have coverage through those markets to the high-risk pools and 2) many people with health problems who lose employer-based coverage under McCain’s proposal would seek coverage in high-risk pools.”
http://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/publications_show.htm?doc_id=707948
And there is no mandatory participation in the national health insurance pool. You can keep your existing insurance, take your employers plan, or choose the national plan. Also, the addition of another insurance carrier would encourage lower costs by the private providers due to increased competition.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 27, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm
– I agree he would see no reduction he is paying less than 10% in taxes where is the problem –
No reduction under McCains plan. Obama would give him roughly an $800 reduction.
The problem? That $800 would not be given to the guy making $19K a year, but would instead be given to the guy making $225K under McCains tax proposals.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 27, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
In the midst of all the false rumor being spread against obama, pls take a little time to check out this story:
The Norwegian newspaper VG has reported a truly amazing story about a newly-wed trying to get to Norway to be with her husband, and the stranger who helped pay an unexpected luggage surcharge. The blog “Leisha’s Random Thoughts” has translated the story.
It was 1988, and Mary Andersen was at the Miami airport checking in for a long flight to Norway to be with her husband when the airline representative informed her that she wouldn’t be able to check her luggage without paying a 100 surcharge:
When it was finally Mary’s turn, she got the message that would crush her bubbling feeling of happiness.
-You’ll have to pay a 103 dollar surcharge if you want to bring both those suitcases to Norway, the man behind the counter said.
Mary had no money. Her new husband had travelled ahead of her to Norway, and she had no one else to call.
-I was completely desperate and tried to think which of my things I could manage without. But I had already made such a careful selection of my most prized possessions, says Mary.
As tears streamed down her face, she heard a “gentle and friendly voice” behind her saying, “That’s okay, I’ll pay for her.”
Mary turned around to see a tall man whom she had never seen before.
-He had a gentle and kind voice that was still firm and decisive. The first thing I thought was, Who is this man?
Although this happened 20 years ago, Mary still remembers the authority that radiated from the man.
-He was nicely dressed, fashionably dressed with brown leather shoes, a cotton shirt open at the throat and khaki pants, says Mary.
She was thrilled to be able to bring both her suitcases to Norway and assured the stranger that he would get his money back. The man wrote his name and address on a piece of paper that he gave to Mary. She thanked him repeatedly. When she finally walked off towards the security checkpoint, he waved goodbye to her.
Who was the man?
Barack Obama.
Twenty years later, she is thrilled that the friendly stranger at the airport may be the next President and has voted for him already and donated 100 dollars to his campaign:
-He was my knight in shining armor, says Mary, smiling.
She paid the 103 dollars back to Obama the day after she arrived in Norway. At that time he had just finished his job as a poorly paid community worker* in Chicago, and had started his law studies at prestigious Harvard university.
Mary even convinced her parents to vote for him:
In the spring of 2006 Mary’s parents had heard that Obama was considering a run for president, but that he had still not decided. They chose to write a letter in which they told him that he would receive their votes. At the same time, they thanked Obama for helping their daughter 18 years earlier.
And Obama replied:
In a letter to Mary’s parents dated May 4th, 2006 and stamped ‘United States Senate, Washington DC’, Barack Obama writes:
‘I want to thank you for the lovely things you wrote about me and for reminding me of what happened at Miami airport. I’m happy I could help back then, and I’m delighted to hear that your daughter is happy in Norway. Please send her my best wishes. Sincerely, Barack Obama, United States Senator’.
The parents sent the letter on to Mary.
Mary says that when her friends and associates talk about the election, especially when race relations is the heated subject, she relates the story of the kind man who helped out a stranger-in-need over twenty years ago, years before he had even thought about running for high office.
Truly a wonderful story, and something that needs to be passed along in the maelstorm of fear-and-smear politics we are being subjected to right now.
UPDATE: Thanks for the recommends, folks! Also, remember this was 1988, when 100 dollars was quite a bit of money, compared to today’s value.
By the way, this would be the perfect antidote to the Smear E-mails going around. If anyone has a good long email chain list, shoot it out, and let it be passed along.
Posted by: themanwhosawtomorrow | October 27, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
Yeah, isn’t this the guy who said FDR was president when the Great Depression began and that he spoke to Americans who only had radios at that time on television and he’s giving a lecture on American history?
Sad thing is, honestly, I’m not sure most Americans who heard that gaffe(?) even flinched until it was pointed out to them. No more than most thought there was anything wrong with Dan Quayle misspelling ‘potato’.
The Socialist view of education is not stuff like learning how to do math, read, write, science, geography, history, etc., but rather to learn the Leftist view of the world…and rather poorly at that.
The ignorant are always easier to lead because the Intelligentsia tells them how smart they actually are and that the traditional ways are evil and stifle creativity and free thinking.
So the Socialist Intelligentsia have a built-in audience to lead (because, after all, they are the Enlightened Ones and know best…shut up-do as your told for the welfare of Society, they’ll handle the problems, they’ll take care of everything for you—all you have to do is believe and trust in the New Way).
Fifty years + of Leftist propaganda has softened us for a potential slaughter of Liberty. Sen. McCarthy was right.
Posted by: Grand Old Party | October 27, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
– The Socialist view of education is not stuff like learning how to do math, read, write, science, geography, history, etc., but rather to learn the Leftist view of the world…and rather poorly at that. –
Oh, you mean like how the world is only 6000 years old and man and dinosaurs walked around on it a the same time? Oh, wait, that was Palin.. never mind.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 27, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/10/atf_disrupts_skinhead_plot_to_1.php
The problem is that Obama IS a socialist with Marxist ideology that IS NOT a rumor.
Obama is endorsed by the Communist Party of the U.S. That is a fact. Go to their website.
The neo-nazis that were planning on killing 88 blacks and decapitating 14 more in a killing spree intended to end with Obama’s assisination were McCain supporters. Does that make John McCain a neo-nazi? ridiculous argument.
So, the questions posed to Biden accusing Obama with having Marxist ideals is very legitimate and should be a red flag to everyone in assessing Obama’s values.
So bellagio, are you a child molestor? who cares if you are not, the fact that I asked should raise a red flag. How is that a sensible argument?
You vote for Obama, you are voting for a communist party endorsed candidate.
Who cares what they think?
Government works for us, we do not work for government… Government is our servant.
Actually in a democracy we are ALL the government. In fact the Constitution points this out rather early on the document We the People in order to form a morre perfect union…of the people, for the people and by the people…
Sound familiar…if not pull it out sometime, it is an intersting document.
Our Constitution protects us FROM government! It protects our rights & freedoms to succeed or fail… FROM government! It protects our freedom to Life, Liberty and Pursuit of Happiness… FROM government!
Actually you are mixing up the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. As noted before the constitution states clearly that we are the government. While I agree the government is our servant it is also our civic responsibility. The Constituiton makes no claim about success or failure or what role we, the citizens can take legislatively to ensure freedom or fairness. It does ostensibly protect us from overzealous parts of the government we grant certain powers to, but nothing more.
Our Constitution puts limits on our government not to interfere in our everyday lives; Our General Government exists to DEFEND OUR WAY OF LIFE, not constrain it, provide for it, or redistribute it!
the Constitution is silent on tax policy since the amendment allowing the income tax. Your core argument should be the repeal of that amendment. Before that amendment the only tax the feds were allowed to levy were excise taxes.
We have a Constitution that protects us, the people, from government! The Communist Doctrine protects government from the people! By turning government into master & provider!
Oh boy, you should read up on your marxist literature. Marxism is generally speaking an economic system, like capitalism (that being said the Bolsheviks turned it into a governing philosophy of sorts, although the reality is they were nothing more than petty dictatorships trying to impose a marxist economic system, something Marx would likely find abhorrent). Our constitution makes no mention of what economic system we should adopt as a nation, only that the people shall govern it through legislation.
The general Government is sworn to defend, preserve and protect that way of life, OUR CONSTITUTION… Government owes nothing to anyone. They are our servants.
Office holders are sworn as such, not the government. Off course Bush had his folks swear an oeth to him as testified to numerous times in fornt of congressional committees. Don’t here you complaining about that one though.
Any public official that takes the oath of office and then ignores his/her oath is im-perjuring him/herself and tantamount to treason against the US.
Sure, but proposing a progressive tax policy that gets the votes needed in congress and is signed into law by the president and does not violate the actual protections provided for by the Constitution is in keeping with the Constitution.
Our system is not broken… It is those who we put in charge that are broken.
No argument here.
America is a Capitalist system and a system of individualism!
Again, Capitalism is not actually gaurentted in the Constitution. Capitalism and Communism are actually economic systems, not a governing systems.
I VOTE FOR CAPITALISTS NOT COMMUNISTS!
Actually you vote for Corporatistts. People who tend to serve the corporate interest ovber that of the general citezenry. The belief is that corporate health and well being leads to prosperity for all. Adam Smith, the grandfather of capitalism actually shunned large corporations. Look it up, it is right in his work The Wealth of Nations.
Why doesn’t the DNC adopt the Hammer & Sickle as their new logo.
Because they are not communists.
Posted by: pdxbuckeye | October 27, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
TO YOU DUMB AS ROCKS MCAIN/PALIN KAMIKAZES-
I’ll bet every single one of you voted W/Cheney the last 8 years-
How’d that work out for ya? (Wink, wink)
Next Tuesday evening will be SO SWEET
Posted by: Jon Rosen | October 27, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm
Push the right buttons and you can raise anyone’s ire enough to make them forget the real issues.
Posted by: George | October 27, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
You are correct dO. The Document says that all are created equal. However it doesn’t guarentee an equal share to everyone. You are supposed to earn your own way.
If Obama says we need to depart from the ” failed economic policies of the Bush administration ” why does he insist on yet another economic stimulus program.
The problem is that most people receiving the stimulus didn’t pay taxes in the first place. This is nothing short of Socialism, Comrad
Posted by: Jeff Burdge | October 27, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
Hey Jon! How sweet will it be when you’re standing in the breadline?
This spreading the wealth is great until the earners and producers in this country figure out that there is no reward for hard work and achievement. Why would I want to make $250,000.00 if Barak wants to increase the tax rate.
You should read up on the law of diminishing returns!
Posted by: Jeff Burdge | October 27, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm
Thank you to Concerned American, pdxbuckeye and others for providing real information and intelligent discussion. So many of the McCain people on the internet seem to only offer crazed attacks and sourceless accusations. It’s very hard to respond to them and you all have done an excellent job. I find this generally to be the case on most sites that I see, and I read a cross section of news sources, conservative and liberal. Actually quite disturbing in their anger and bitterness are the people on all sites who constantly insult each other and engage in nothing less than all-out fear mongering. Your clear mindedness on behalf of Obama and you’re verifiable and well sourced information as well, are much like the Obama campaign itself. That is why I think Obama will win. The prospect of an intelligent, well spoken and thoughtful human leading us to a more hopeful future is just too powerful. Especially in contrast to the inexplicable horrors of the last eight years. I respect Mr. McCain as a physically brave man who suffered greatly in service to his country. But he is making too many errors and sometimes is barely lucid in his comments. I look forward to having intelligence as a component again of the American face to the world.
Posted by: Neil | October 27, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm
Great website
http://hiphoprepublican.blogspot.com/
Posted by: Carrie | October 28, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
Hail comrad obama
He might sit in the chair but he will never earn the respect to be my president
Posted by: Ray | October 28, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm