Bubba and Barack to Rally in Sunshine State
Former President Bill Clinton and Sen. Barack Obama will be campaigning together in Orlando, Fla., on Wednesday night.
The rally starts at 11 p.m.
There has famously been much tension between the two men. Obama resented what he saw as dismissive and even some racially-tinged comments about him made by Clinton and supporters of Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, during the primaries;The former president resented implications that he had in any way played the race card and he didn’t like Obama’s criticisms of his policies such as NAFTA.
For many Democrats this joint appearance has been a long time coming.
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11 pm – isnt that rather late for the typical FL electorate i.e the +65 set?
Posted by: ilvoter | October 25, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
Jake,
Are you going to report Bush’s attempt to use the Department of Justice to disenfranchise 200,000 new voters in Ohio?
Posted by: Virginian Marine | October 25, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
Jake
Please report on how Bush is gonna try to steal the Election for Mccain
Posted by: Angie | October 25, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
i have a HUGE question for you, Jake:
“Obama resented what he saw as dismissive and even some racially-tinged comments about him”
How exactly did you learn that “Obama resented what he saw….”? i’m guessing you heard that from Obama himself in the strictest of confidences because the rest of us seem to have missed that declaration from Obama. This is big news to me, Jake old boy.
I do think that you would do your journalistic career some justice to modify that to “Obama supporters”. I really don’t think you should rush to credit Obama with a type of resentment that he himself has never aired. It’s presumptuous of you to claim to know what goes on in his head.
Posted by: QUestion | October 25, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
Wow.
So after playing both sides against the middle (classic Clintonian behavior) Bill Clinton finally decided to slither his way on over to the winning side.
Make him crawl, Obama.
Posted by: Dallas | October 25, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
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Posted by: justme | October 25, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
This was a message from a highly decorated and one of the most respected intelligence agents in the world. His last warning words to his beloved country before he died last month.
Remember what I said. It is true and part of a misinformation plan is to make the truth look paranoid. Just look around and see the media and DNC parroting the party line. The Christian Religion is evil. Homosexual is normal. Patriotism evil. Rebellion and changing the Constitution normal. Disarm the citizens normal. NRA and hunters evil. The Military and heroes evil. Anti military and ridicule heroes normal. Success and hard work evil. The government owes me normal. Shocking this is right out of the handbook of communist and Islamic terrorism guides to revolution and over throwing a country. Schools teach the government is evil and socialism utopia normal. Divide the races through agitators and media. Destroy marriage and the families. The state is the parent. Call evil good and smear and destroy good. Look at the Hollywood crowd. McCarthy was right and history has proven it. They flock around dictators and tyrants Chavez, Castro, Iranian, and Syrians. Wake up and vote for McCain if you want freedom. After 40 years of Intelligence service I can just say look and watch. Look at Obama’s friend’s Islamic Marxists terror operatives. Rev. Wright Marxist preacher of Racist Hate and division. William Ayers Marxist radical terrorist. Farrakhan Muslim Marxist. Research the hidden years at Columbia University. Also the overseas trips. Victor Marchenco, Mohamud Kioj, Sayad Kael, Fhaad Hussan these are a few of the Islamic and KGB friends who financed and open doors here through contacts. I am not long for this earth. A Terminal Sickness has attached to me. I want to warn my beloved country.
Posted by: Frank | October 25, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
1. The Obama retirement plan. I love it, we want to tax and take your money and possessions so we can spread your wealth among us. I will not have to work for that acorn to hustle fake votes. They said the more fake votes the bigger cut of your wealth we will get. Us Obamiacks were told when the master Messiah is elected we will party on your working backs. I want your car and your house. you will just give me your money. I just love Obama’s tax plan. Retirement brought by the messiah
Posted by: Greg | October 25, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
EVERYBODY will be watching this campaign event just for the body language.
Posted by: nancy | October 25, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
Let’s face it. Obama does not need Bill Clinton to win this election. If anything, I see Bill as a drag.
Posted by: John in Hartford | October 25, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
Why would Obama want Bubba to campaign for him? Bubba always steals the show!!
Posted by: Shelley | October 25, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
Is Jake on vacation? Lately his article topics and the articles themselves are simplistic and full of rumor and assumptions.
I miss Jake. Bring him back.
Posted by: Lydia | October 25, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
I hope Obama appreciates the Clintons. yesterdaHillary was in CO yesterday and will be in New Mexico today. All his supporters who gripe about what they haven’t done should take a look at the republicans and be grateful. Huckabee, and Romney have done about Zero for McCain. Hillary especially has done a tremendous job.
I am so sick of the critcisim of the Clintons. As an african american I truly belevie that Obama’s camp was political motivated when he questioned everything the Clintons said and tried to tie it to racisim. I am voting for him but his supporters were awful with the racisim charges and now that they see palin I hope the Bill and Hillary.
Posted by: rachel | October 25, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
Let’s face it. Obama does not need Bill Clinton to win this election. If anything, I see Bill as a drag.
Posted by: John in Hartford | Oct 25, 2008 4:09:27 PM
That’s funny because Gore and Kerry thought that too and look what happened.
Posted by: Jwench | October 25, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
Jake: Any chance you could get a gatekeeper? I love people’s comments, but only when they’re ON TOPIC.
Posted by: SuLee | October 25, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
I would just like to say that no matter anyone says about our two running mates. None of them will be able to accomplish what they promised in the short time that they are in office. The only way changes will be made is if we the people, citizen, communities of America stand up and fight for what we deserve. Freedom of speech people, Raise your voices!!!
Posted by: American | October 25, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
Obama doesn’t deserve Bill Clinton’s support. Can’t wait until all this is over and Obama’s defeated.
Posted by: bromfield22 | October 25, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
Maybe Bubba can give ObamACORN some sage advise on his tryst with that gal down in Martinique.
Bubba knows all the angles.
Posted by: Captain America | October 25, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
I love this headline from CNN, “Palin’s ‘going rogue,’ McCain aide says”
If by some wild chance McCain was to win, well, ole John better hire a food taster. Palin has ambitions and they don’t include McCain, she’s the kind of neo-con that believes the end always justifies the means. She wouldn’t hesitate to give McSame a push into the next life.
Posted by: JR | October 25, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
Aren’t people stupid. Fox News is the only one to watch. They are fair. ABC, NBC, CBS just needs to go. Anybody that watches them has to be crazy. Bill Clinton should never campaign for Obama. He is to smart for that. He knows Obama should not be President. It does matter what you believe.
Posted by: Janice | October 25, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
I love this headline from CNN, “Palin’s ‘going rogue,’ McCain aide says”
If by some wild chance McCain was to win, well, ole John better hire a food taster. Palin has ambitions and they don’t include McCain, she’s the kind of neo-con that believes the end always justifies the means. She wouldn’t hesitate to give McSame a push into the next life.
Posted by: JR | October 25, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
Thanks so much Mr. Clinton for helping close the deal!
OBAMA 08/12 in my beloved Florida!
Posted by: reef133 | October 25, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
Captain America
Only idiots believe the ACORN Lie. First of All ACORN is required to give all of it’s registrations to the government real or fake. 2nd of all ACORN is the one that reported the questionable registration. 3rd of all McCain supported ACORN when he gave them a rally in 2006. 4th of all Obama defended Acorn along with the United States Justice Department to force Illinois to enforce the motor votor law. 5th of all fake registrations don’t change elections because those people don’t exist and have to show up to vote. 6th of all Republicans tend to have superb luck when it comes to falty voting machines.
Posted by: MM | October 25, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
Can someone please tell me why McCain’s and Palin’s crowds are always 100% white and Obama’s and Biden’s are multi-racial?
Posted by: rhbate | October 25, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
rhbate
October Surprise: Obama has more white support then any Democratic candidate since Jimmy Carter.
Posted by: MM | October 25, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
Sad, isn’t it. Vote McCain and Palin.Vote McCain and Palin – forget about all the stupid stuff ABC reports
Posted by: Janice | October 25, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
Janice
LOL, Forget the facts, Forget reason, forget 5 out of 6 news organizations, and vote for McCain/Palin. Republicans in a nutshell.
Posted by: MM | October 25, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
Can someone please tell me why McCain”s and Palin’s crowds are always 100% white and Obama’s and Biden’s are multi-racial?
Posted by: rhbate | October 25, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
rhbate
Minorities tend to vote democratic. Ironically the total of minorities is the majority.
Posted by: MM | October 25, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
Who Frank? You conveniently left out who said that? Or was he a “secret” intelligence agent? hahahaha
Posted by: lily | October 25, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
McCain doesn’t have crowds.
Posted by: lily | October 25, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
Is that post from Frank a real one? Can’t tell if it is fiction.
Posted by: H. Dunn | October 25, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
Ya Janice – the MAJORITY of us are stupid.
Posted by: lily | October 25, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
Bill knows there is stuff coming. Ever the pragmatist he maintains the cheeful demeanor of a loyal democrat. No one will fault him when chaos ensues.
Posted by: jcarob | October 25, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
This is a blog people, not a news article. It’s the author’s analysis. There may have been some tension, and there may still be some tension, who knows? But look at the campaign the Obama/Biden team has run–top notch. I’d be willing to bet they’ve been saving Bill and Hillary Clinton for their end game–also using them sparingly for greater effect. I just hope this half hour Obama commercial doesn’t get too fancy. People don’t want to see conspicuous spending by politicians right now. On the other hand, every time undecideds, Independents, and moderate Rebulicans have seen Obama for themselves (instead of through the lens of McCain’s campaign smears) it’s been helpful. Whoever wins, I just hope we can all come together to fix this mess we’re in.
Posted by: D. | October 25, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
Its a shame that only MM and rhbate are talking like they actually use their minds. And Frank, that intel officer who died most likely senile. No disrespect.
Posted by: The Oracle | October 25, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
The rally starts at 11pm??!! Will anyone in Florida be awake then??
Posted by: T | October 25, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm
An Obama supporters do need to stop attacking Bill and Hill. Give it up, Obama won and the Clintons lost. No need to rub it in, lets have some class.
Posted by: The Oracle | October 25, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
Clinton made Obama a better candidate, and Obama would have made Clinton a better candidate if she won. Obama’s ground game force Hillary to develop one because she had taking her lead for granted most of the time running. Although it was impossible to see then, now we can see the fruits of that labor. I’ve been saying it since the primaries, Obama will force McCain spend money in time in safe red states and look at it now McCain is running behind in Missouri, Indiana, Virginia, N. Carolina, Florida. All the toss up states are Bush states.
Posted by: MM | October 25, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
Clinton made Obama a better candidate, and Obama would have made Clinton a better candidate if she won. Obama’s ground game force Hillary to develop one because she had taking her lead for granted most of the time running. Although it was impossible to see then, now we can see the fruits of that labor. I’ve been saying it since the primaries, Obama will force McCain spend money in time in safe red states and look at it now McCain is running behind in Missouri, Indiana, Virginia, N. Carolina, Florida. All the toss up states are Bush states.
Posted by: MM | Oct 25, 2008 5:32:48 PM
I do agree she did make him a better candidate. Both Clintons, especially Hillary should be commended on the job they have been doing for Obama.
Posted by: Jwench | October 25, 2008, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm
I hope you all looked into the Palin going rogue article.
please mccain and palin supporters please read this and tell what you think of it.
it is not being reported from obama,
it is not from msnbc.
palin going rogue.
what about this?
Posted by: cheer up,smile,nertz | October 25, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm
Obama will be a great President, and when need be, he’ll lean on either Clinton for certain advice…
Posted by: The Oracle | October 25, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
Dont worry Tommy, soon the hurt will go away and you’ll come to accept Obama as your POTUS. Say it with me, “President Obama”…
Posted by: The Oracle | October 25, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
Wow! just reading all the blogs – it’s amazing what negative/hatred lies beneath some of us …. May God help us all. Create is all of us a clean heart and renew the righteous spirit in us all… Amen
Posted by: Paulapoo | October 25, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
Isn’t it weird that Obama would campaign with people whom his supporters, the media, and his surrogates labeled racist, stuck in the past, negative, divisive, and a host of other negative things? I guess Obama is more of the same: he will do anything to get elected.
Maybe the Clinton’s are doing what is good for their country. Ever think of that? Obviously they got over what happened in the primaries, too bad some of you can’t.
Posted by: Jwench | October 25, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm
jwench, .i am over it. my point is that the whole stuff was a bunch of BS launched by Obama’s team and spread like a virus by Daily Kos, Huffington, et al. As a civil rights activist, I loathe people trivializing racism just for political advantage. That’s what Obama did. Because of this, he is NOT good for the country. He is good for himself! I’d rather have McCain than Obama. At least McCain isn’t pretending to be a lefty.
Posted by: Tommy | October 25, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
I respect and admire the political integrity of both of these guys — they actually care about the middle class American. I’m glad to see the cooperative effort!
Posted by: jmb | October 25, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
Oracle — I never accepted Bush I, Bush II, or Reagan as “my” President. I won’t accept Obama either. I’m used to critiquing the president. Obama won’t be different. He’s a big sham.
Posted by: Tommy | October 25, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
DON’T DO IT BILL..THAT RACIST RADICAL AIN’T WORTH YOUR SUPPORT!!
Posted by: artest | October 25, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
I love how people now say that Clinton made Obama a better candidate. During the primaries, it was a totally different story. She was “kneecapping” the first poor little black man to make it this far. Bah humbug. People will say anything to rationalize Obama’s inconsistencies. I luv it.
Posted by: Tommy | October 25, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
I don’t think you have the time right. Unless they’re aiming for live local news coverage.
Posted by: Chevy | October 25, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
Ruby Red – I am not a Republican. I would never vote for that loathsome party. But I hate Obama. He’s a liar and a sham. Just like Reagan. Oh well, I guess that’s what it takes to get elected in the US. Just think – this country picked Bush over Gore. What a stinking joke.
Posted by: Tommy | October 25, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
If you haven’t notice the Republican party has been blatantly racist. Might I remind you of a certain flier that had Obama and fried chicken and watermelon. Vote for the liars McCain and Palin, I could care less.
Their campaign has been despicable and probably the dirtiest in recent campaign history. If you condone that type of behavior fine, I choose not to.
Posted by: Jwench | October 25, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
love how people now say that Clinton made Obama a better candidate. During the primaries, it was a totally different story. She was “kneecapping” the first poor little black man to make it this far. Bah humbug. People will say anything to rationalize Obama’s inconsistencies. I luv it.
Posted by: Tommy | Oct 25, 2008 6:15:18 PM
I think her toughness in the primaries did help him become a better candidate. I voted for her not him. I am voting for him now because McCain is a total idiot.
Posted by: Jwench | October 25, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
Joe Biden will be the president, after Obama go to jail for missleading the Amercan people,he is not even American citizen, was born in Kenya, and taking all of us for a fool.He lied obout everything.
Posted by: Wolf | October 25, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
JW – I’m voting for mayor, governor, senators, and house of rep member — not president. I will not vote for Obama. He does not sit well with me. I don’t vote for people I don’t like. I don’t care what party he’s with.
Posted by: Tommy | October 25, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
JW – according to Obama’s supporters, the Clintons were racist too. Is racism only bad when its coming from Republicans or when its coming from the Clintons during the primaries before Obama has the nomination?
Posted by: Tommy | October 25, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
IT’S ABOUT TIME!
Posted by: y.sister | October 25, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
Obama just cannot close the deal. Be truthful. His camp cheated in the primaries. Mrs. Clinton. Why would Bill do this unless 2 reasons. Think about it.
Posted by: Christie | October 25, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
Wouldn’t now be the perfect time for Bubba to screw up and throw Obama under the bus for what he did to Hillary?
Posted by: Shelley | October 25, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
Andy Griffith says “Be a patriot and vote for Barack Obama”. Its hard to argue with that. Ron Howard and Andy Griffith, even Henry Winkler have come out and supported Barack Obama! True Americans; Andy Griffith, Ron Howard, Henry Winkler, Barack Obama, and Joe Biden. All are as American as apple pie!
Posted by: Fairfax | October 25, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
What Clinton should do is stand up for his country and put Obama in his place for using the race card. Clinton could turn out to be a very popular man. He looks cheap, again for doing this. Where is a real statesman when you could use one. Colin Powell’s another weak person. Joe the plumber has more backbone.
Posted by: Christie | October 25, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
I use FOX news to tell me how WELL Obama is actually doing. Even they can not deny he has run a great campaign. When FOX is even showing Obama up in the polls, you can take it to the bank because he does not have any friends over there. ;-)
Posted by: francheska ;-) | October 25, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
fairfax – if i took advice from actors i would go with kelsey grammer over the washed up henry winkler any day.
Posted by: Tommy | October 25, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
Clinton brought down Hilliary, and will bring down Obama, he’s the best operative the GOP has right now!
Posted by: hmn | October 25, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
Oh great! So now we have a politician that we know beyond a doubt will look Americans right in the eye and lie to them campaigning for a politician whom you can’t get a straight answer from. Sounds like a real great combination. All we need now is for John Edwards to join in. If Obama wins is Edwards still going to be Attorney General?
Posted by: professorj | October 25, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
hmn I disagree. So far Joe Biden is John McCain’s biggest asset. McCain’s strategy for the final few days should be to just buy Joe Biden air time and let him speak off the cuff. lol
Posted by: professorj | October 25, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
Where is Jesse Jackson? Why isn’t he out campaigning for Obama?
Posted by: professorj | October 25, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
My opinion is that this country really is not ready for a female president (or vice president). Bill will do well for Obama. And I think Bill will definitely put a “bite” on John and Sarah’s blatant attempt at putting “fear” into this campaign. Freedom isn’t free. You cannot live in fear and still believe you are free.
Posted by: Yankee | October 25, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
lvoter – not for this election – Senator Obama is a big draw no matter what the time. McCain was in Albuquerque this morning – drew about 1,000 people. Senator Obama will speak tonite at 9:00 PM – let’s see how many supporters he will draw!!
Posted by: sandy | October 25, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
Obama has been the greatest campaigner since John Kennedy. Even better than the influential Ronald Reagan. The numbers tell the story. Having Clinton step in at this time in the right places is just another example of Barack Obama’s campaign genius. If uses anywhere near this skill as President then he will be a terrific President. And, that wouldn’t take much after the abominable failure of George “King” Bush. God bless America. Go Barack Obama!
Posted by: gtrmaniac49 | October 25, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
RE: Post by gtrmaniac49 Actually if you study the 1960 campaign you will learn that if not for Daddy Joe buying the Chicago Democratic machine there never would have been a President Kennedy. Everyone in America knows that without a doubt the most vile, despicable, corrupt political organization in America is the Chicago Democratic machine and yet they have tricked nearly half of the country into supporting their slick new protégé for President of the United States.
Posted by: professorj | October 25, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
Republicans here are frantically rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic….Desperation is so ugly!
Posted by: sandy | October 25, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
I agree. There is just too much fear mongering in this campaign. Like Joe Biden reminding us this week that if we don’t support John McCain sometime next year that red phone in the White House will ring at 3:00 AM and an inexperienced community organizer might answer it and get us all killed. That was totally uncalled for.
Posted by: professorj | October 25, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
ProfessorJ says:RE: Post by gtrmaniac49 Actually if you study the 1960 campaign you will learn that if not for Daddy Joe buying the Chicago Democratic machine there never would have been a President Kennedy. Everyone in America knows that without a doubt the most vile, despicable, corrupt political organization in America is the Chicago Democratic machine and yet they have tricked nearly half of the country into supporting their slick new protégé for President of the United States.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eveyone knows? I have my doubts about that. I remember the Daley years. My point is the charisma John Kennedy projected over a dour-looking Richard Nixon that was a breath of fresh air in modern, at that time, American politics. Obama’s huge crowd numbers have nothing to do with the 1960-70s Chicago Political Machine. I live in Florida and I couldn’t believe the buzz over Barack Obama coming to our town recently. I couldn’t go but the compulsion to want to be there was tremendous. I understand that were at least 50,000 in attendance on a week night. And, if Obama’s campaign is centrally supported by the CPM then the surely know how to promote. After George W. Bush’s wrecker ball Presidency Barack Obama will be a welcome change.
Posted by: gtrmaniac49 | October 25, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
The republicans are desperate. The polls show Obama so far in the lead that I won’t even bother to vote.
Fact is Obama is already spending millions and millions of dollars on his victory celebrations. Obama knows he has this election sewn up. Don’t expect any surprises.
Posted by: Demsforever | October 25, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm
Obama/Biden/Clinton !!! Wooo Wooo !!!
Posted by: Left Arm | October 25, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
Demsforever – You’re right. Me and my buddies are not turning out to vote. Obama is going to win this one for sure.
The republicans don’t stand a chance.
Posted by: Ali Khan | October 25, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
How could the rally possibly start at 11 pm?
Posted by: Lee | October 25, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
professorj – I worked on Kennedy’s campaign – my first presidential campaign. And, I have worked on every Democratic campaign since then. If “the Chicago Democratic machine” was involved in JFK’s election or any other, there was no indication of it at the grassroots level – any more than there has been in Senator Obama’s campaign. Get used to it – there is a tsunami on its way – his name is Barack Obama.
Posted by: sandy | October 25, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm
Why hasn’t Obama denounced ACORN? Why did he give one of ACORN’s entities 800,000? Why did Obama change his tax plan? Why is he raising the cap on social security? Why hasn’t Obama mentioned what he considers an affordable price for healthcare premiums? Why doesn’t Obama tell the American public why his first Muslim affairs coordinator resigned after 10 days? Why did Obama say that Ayers was a guy who lived down the street when first asked? The list goes on and on and on!
Posted by: Linda/Michigan | October 25, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm
I checked the polls and Obama is ahead by 12 per cent in Florida. Why bother to vote. I am going to just join in the celebrations.
Posted by: Joe Fish | October 25, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
Get used to it – there is a tsunami on its way – his name is Barack Obama.
Posted by: sandy | Oct 25, 2008 7:50:37 PM
You’re spot on sandy. On election day, I am going stay home and have a couple of beers to celebrate with my buds.
Posted by: Demsforever | October 25, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
Demsforever and Ali Khan – voting is a privilege – if you choose not to vote you also loose the right to complain. Better not see your monikers’ posting after the election.
Posted by: sandy | October 25, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm
Bubba campaigning for Obama.
Well that ought to finish him off.
Bye, bye, Obama.
Posted by: willy | October 25, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm
RE: Post by Linda/Michigan I’m glad you mentioned Obama’s plan to remove the cap on FICA payments. None of the sites where you can compare the candidates tax plans include that amount.
Posted by: professorj | October 25, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
Obama supporters we MUST vote. Polls can lie and every vote counts! Do not become complacent because you are assured of a victory! That is what the rebubs are counting on.
VOTE and make this the biggest landslide victory in history!
Obama/Biden 08
Posted by: Jay | October 25, 2008, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm
sandy My first campaign was for John Kennedy as well. True none of that came up during the election. The problems with illegal voting in Illinois and South Carolina were not discovered until much later. I’m afraid that may be the case this year as well.
Posted by: professorj | October 25, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
The republicans are desperate. The polls show Obama so far in the lead that I won’t even bother to vote.
Posted by: Demsforever
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The republicans are desperate, that’s why plants like you are attempting to encourage people not to vote.
Everyone vote.
Of course vote Obama.
But Vote!
Posted by: Julie | October 25, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
professorj – and what about Florida and Ohio in the last election? Voter fraud seems to be the norm for election day.
George W. Bush late Friday asked Attorney General Michael Mukasey to investigate whether hundreds of thousands of newly registered voters in the battleground state of Ohio would have to verify the information on their voter registration forms or be given provisional ballots, an issue the U.S. Supreme Court weighed in on last week. The unprecedented intervention by the White House less than two weeks before the presidential election may result in at least 200,000 voters in Ohio not being able to vote on Election Day if they are forced to provide additional identification when they head to the polls. 200,000 disenfranchised voters? The beat goes on….
Posted by: sandy | October 25, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
McCain supporters we MUST contimue to campaign hard and vote! Polls can lie and every vote counts! Do not become complacent because you are assured of a victory! That is what the dems and their friends in the main street media are counting on. VOTE and make this the biggest landslide victory in history!
McCain/Palin 08
Adapted from Post by: Jay | Oct 25, 2008 7:59:09 PM.
Posted by: professorj | October 25, 2008, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm
sandy Maybe I missed it but I don’t recall a single actual voter fraud conviction from those baseless accusations.
Posted by: professorj | October 25, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
professorj – come on! Another Republican talking head point – You know better – any asociation that Senator Obama has had with ACORN were legitimate interactions.
Posted by: sandy | October 25, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
sandy Philip J. Berg is a former Deputy Attorney General of the State of Pennsylvania and a two-time Democratic candidate for governor. I’d say that pretty much makes him a Democrat.
Posted by: professorj | October 25, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
professorj and willy – and people do not change party affiliations? McCain was originally a Democrat but switched to the Republican Party in order to get elected to Congress. So your points are?
Posted by: sandy | October 25, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
professorj – but no comment on Bush’s intervention in Ohio? A casd ALREADY decided by the US Supreme court?
Posted by: sandy | October 25, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm
sandy I strongly encourage Democrats like Mr. Berg to change parties. Even I was a Democrat once. Maybe I misread your post. I thought you claimed that Mr. Berg was a “lifetime Republican.”
Posted by: professorj | October 25, 2008, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm
professorj – you talking vote REGISTRATION fraud, NOT voter fraud. And Republican voter registration FOLKS have NEVER been a problem? Come back to reality!!!
Posted by: sandy | October 25, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
McCain supporters we MUST contimue to campaign hard and vote! Polls can lie and every vote counts! Do not become complacent because you are assured of a victory! That is what the dems and their friends in the main street media are counting on. VOTE and make this the biggest landslide victory in history!
McCain/Palin 08
Adapted from Post by: Jay | Oct 25, 2008 7:59:09 PM.
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Just place your little finger into that
little hole in the dike. That should do it…right!
I don’t think so.
Posted by: spacerook1 | October 25, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
sandy Participating in one side of a lawsuit or a court case regarding eligibility for voting is not voter fraud. Voter fraud like Obama’s ACORN group practices criminal and if you have any proof that such a crime ever took place I suggest you give it to the US Attorney General. I work hard all week trying to educate young people. I’m not real interested in doing it all day here.
Posted by: professorj | October 25, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
sandy Now think about that. Voter registration fraud precedes voter fraud. People cannot vote illegally if they are not registered illegally.
Posted by: professorj | October 25, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
Hey, anyone else read the article on CNN about ‘Palin going rogue on McCain’? With all that has transpired since his pick
it makes one wonder how any reasonable person could even think to support that ticket.
What was it McCain later said about selecting Palin—something like’I followed my heart’!
If it weren’t so embarrasing I could laugh!
Posted by: Leukevent | October 25, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
Yes_We_Will – same here – I will be working for Senator Obama until the very last minute!!!! Also waiting to see how many people show up for Senator Obama’s rally in Albuquerque this evening – I live too far way and cannot afford the gas, but I would love to be there. Only about 1,000 people showed up for McCain’s rally this morning.
Posted by: sandy | October 25, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
How can you disenfranchise 200,000 fraudulent voter registrations?
Posted by: Linda/Michigan | October 25, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
It would be great if Bill Clinto could become an ambassador-at-large and help restore America’s image.
Yes, better to help late than never. Let’s be honest, Obama is going to win in a landslide and there will no ‘Hillary in 2012′. Both Clintons know it and best to share in this 2008 victory.
Posted by: ken | October 25, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
professorj – voter registration fraud and voter fraud are two completely diifferent things. The difference has been explained time and time again by different media outlets since this whole issue hit the news.
Posted by: sandy | October 25, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
The republicans are desperate. The polls show
Obama so far in the lead that I won’t even bother
to vote.
Posted by: Demsforever
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The republicans are desperate, that’s why plants
like you are attempting to encourage people not to
vote.
Everyone vote.
Of course vote Obama.
But Vote!
Posted by: Julie
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Sounds to me like he has a bi-poll-or disorder.
Hey,Hey
Posted by: spacerook1 | October 25, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
If Obama gets elected, I do not want to hear you cry, Oh, Obama promised he’d give us healthcare but now he says there is no money. He said that there would be no middle class tax increase. He said that he would fund education but now there is no money for that either. He said that he would protect America from terrorism but I guess he lied!
Posted by: Linda/Michigan | October 25, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
sandy I’m sorry that you cannot afford the gas to go to an Obama rally this evening, or any place else you might like to enjoy. The rising price of gas and other items these past two years have hurt a lot of people including my own family. Are you working, or looking for work now?
Posted by: professorj | October 25, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
Grom TIME magazine article: “Barack Obama has prospered in this presidential campaign because of the steadiness of his temperament and the judicious quality of his decision-making. They are his best-known qualities. The most important decision he has made — the selection of a running mate — was done carefully, with an exhaustive attention to detail and contemplation of all the possible angles. Two months later, as John McCain’s peremptory selection of Governor Sarah Palin has come to seem a liability, it could be argued that Obama’s quiet selection of Joe Biden defined the public’s choice in the general-election campaign.”
Posted by: sandy | October 25, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
Obama’s ability to draw a crowd is not surprising. The people who get free government benefits will always support the politicians who promise to give them more government benefits. When discussing the American Revolution, a Scottish-born British lawyer and writer Alexander Fraser Tytler (1747 – 1813), was attributed as saying. “A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.” Americans reached that moment with FDR’s New Deal and have been tumbling down the path of self destruction every since. Today over half of the households in America receive a regular monthly check from the government and nearly half (44%) pay no income taxes at all. American governments at all levels are already spending $21,294 in transfer payments for each low-income household and the poverty rate remains in double digits. Will more money solve the problem? Just how long do you think we can continue on this path? Obama’s socialist tax policies will break the will or drive off tax-paying American Capitalists until there is no one left to pay for all of his socialist programs.
Posted by: professorj | October 25, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
IF YOUR REGISTERED TO VOTE. VOTE! DO NOT STAY HOME. VOTE! TELL YOUR BOSS YOUR VOTING & WILL BE LATE! VOTE! VOTE! VOTE !
Posted by: My Grandma Says | October 25, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
Can someone please tell me why McCain’s and Palin’s crowds are always 100% white and Obama’s and Biden’s are multi-racial?
Posted by: rhbate
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Maybe McCain ran out of money for the fill in
audience.
Posted by: spacerook1 | October 25, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
professorj – still looking for work. As the economy declined so did by resources. I lost my house and my truck. And no, I was not one of those people who got sucked into a home loan I could not afford. With a good job, I could afford anything I wanted and still put money away. Now I have nothing left.
Posted by: sandy | October 25, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
sandy Been there. I finally gave up looking for a job that was no longer there and went back to graduate school in 1992. It was really hard with a family that included two teenagers. I borrowed to the hilt on student loans and am still working two jobs to pay them off. However it was the best decision I ever made because it gave me a career in a field with high demand and fairly good pay. I know things are tough but you should try your best to turn things around. I have always told my kids that life is a roller coaster and when you are down just stay on the ride because it will go back up. Of course when you are up you have to understand that you will not always stay there.
Posted by: professorj | October 25, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm
professorj – How are tax cuts socialist?
Posted by: sandy | October 25, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
RE: Post by spacerook1 Do you really need someone to explain that to you?
Posted by: professorj | October 25, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
sandy How do you give tax cuts to 95% of Americans when over 40% pay no income tases? Taxing upper income people and then sending money to people who didn’t pay anything to begin with is not a tax cut, it is the socialist policy of income redistribution.
Posted by: professorj | October 25, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
President Bush and the Republicans actually did give tax cuts to working Americans “In 2001 and 2003, President George W. Bush proposed and Congress passed a series of tax cuts to reinvigorate the economy and reduce the government’s burden on workers’ paychecks. Because of opposition to these measures from some in Congress, they were implemented as temporary tax cuts.” The first thing Obama and the Democrats plan to do if elected is to let the Bush tax cuts expire. That means everybody making over $40,000 will see their federal taxes go up.
Posted by: professorj | October 25, 2008, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm
professorj – unfortunately most people do not understand that up does not always mean up! I have also gone back to school to earn my doctorate degree – what helped sink me was $500,000 I had to pay back after my husband died. Good health is not a certainty in life, either.
Posted by: sandy | October 25, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
Actually, tax cuts to 40% of the people who do not pay federal income tax is WELFARE.
Posted by: David | October 25, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
professorj – no, it means everyone making over $250,000 will see their taxes go up.
Posted by: sandy | October 25, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
sandy Are you working on your doctorate now or have you finished?
Posted by: professorj | October 25, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
professorj -working on doctorate now – decided it was a good plan being I am not working. I am half way through the program. Already gathering materials for my dissertation.
Posted by: sandy | October 25, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
spacerook1
Sad to say maybe it is just racism
Posted by: A concerned american | October 25, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm
Unfortunately I agree that no matter who is elected we will probably not see any tax cuts until the economy improves. I believe thet the economy will improve faster under a McCain administration than under an Obama administration. Too many small business owners — who create 80% othe new jobs each year — are worried about Oabma’s anti-business tax policies and making plans to cut back if he is elected.
Posted by: professorj | October 25, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm
This election is about whether we will have a recession or a depression. There is an old economics joke about the difference between a recession and a depression. The punch line is that a recession is when you are out of work and a depression is when I am out of work. Last week I was talking with a friend who has a small business that employs about 20 people. He is pretty sure that times will be tough next year. He said that if McCain is elected he thinks things will turn around next year so he will try to hang on. However he believes that if Obama is elected his taxes will go up and his business will go down to the point where he will probably have to lay off about half his people. Then he made the remark that he would start with those employees with Obama stickers on their cars because they helped cause it. Many small business owners and professionals are very concerned about Obama’s tax and spend policies and making plans to cut back if he is elected. I can’t believe that so many workers are willing to vote themselves out of a job.
Posted by: professorj | October 25, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
sandy I sincerely hope that you are pursuing a field where there is a good deal of demand. I have a friend who recently completed her doctorate in economics. Unfortunately there is a bit of a glut of economists looking for teaching jobs right now and too few positions. I told her than in today’s market any economist who really understood supply and demand would not be an economist. She did not see the humor in that. On the other hand we have tow positions open in accounting and cannot find a qualified accounting PhD willing to teach college for less than 100K for 9 months.
Posted by: professorj | October 25, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
Demsnever – It doesn’t matter what you think. Polls show Obama will have a landslide victory.
Obama is leading by such a wide margin in early polls that I won’t have to vote on Nov 4.
Posted by: John Bull | October 25, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
I am not voting for Obama because of his lack of experience, his liberal “tax and spend” voting record and I am afraid that if he is elected he will surround himself with radicals — as he seems to have done in the past. However these arguments about Obama’s birth and religion are absurd and were debunked months ago. His birth certificate has been posted upon the web and verified by the State of Hawaii. He has publicly stated his Christian faith many times and was a loyal member of a racist Afro-centrist Trinity United Church of Christ for more than 20 years before he decided he had better disavow his racist America-hating mentor/pastor/uncle in order to get elected. Even if he was a Muslim in his youth Christians should be shouting halleluiah at his conversion. On the other hand, if that is the case, Muslims will have to issue a fatwa.
Posted by: professorj | October 25, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
Jobs that pay more than minimum wage are businesses that Obama wants to increase taxes on. Businesses that pay an average of 15.00 or more an hour will be the ones penalized. The mom and pop businesses that pay minimum wage are the ones that will see no increase.
How is that going to benefit us?
Still waiting for someone to tell me what Obama considers an affordable monthly premium for his health insurance plan. Is it a 100.00 per month or 500.00 per month? This is an important factor that he seems to leave out and none of the media seem concerned enough to ask about.
Posted by: Linda/Michigan | October 25, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm
professorj – my doctorate degree will be in education – instructional leadership in higher education with a focus on curriculum design and instruction.
Posted by: sandy | October 25, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
sandy Well good luck to you with your education and career. I wish you all the best.
My eyes are bleary and my typing is getting worse. I think I’ll go read a good book. Good night all. Try to be nice to each other.
Posted by: professorj | October 25, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
I am an expat American living in the Philippines and working in Asia. Over the past 8 years I have watched the precipitous demise of US moral authority and influence for good around the world.
When I read most of these comments — it confirms that this is self-inflicted. It is not the Congres, it is not the parties, it is not the president.
The amount of ill-will, hate, and igorance, regardless of education level is startling. An uninformed, uncivil, electorate that this not willing to educate itself and have serious debates on the issues ressults in the kind of campaigns we have have seen over the past number of years.
I fear for the great American experiment in democracy. An elecorate that is unwilling or unable to deal with each other with informed opinions about the pressing issues of the day desrves what it is getting.
Posted by: Luke | October 25, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
Obama & Clinton, the Blind Leading the Blind. Wonder how much Bill gets paid to be with Obama, it sure is not for charity.
Posted by: directconnection | October 25, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm
McCain/Plain supporters… Don’t let the media and press abuse their power with the Power of Suggestion. They want us to become complacent and feel defeated so they may clear their own agenda and get their candidate Barack Obama elected.
Posted by: conf1689 | October 25, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm
Anna – People began lining up for Sen. Barack Obama’s 9 p.m. rally in New Mexico around noon Saturday.
At UNM’s Johnson Field Saturday, the Obama campaign hopes to draw the largest ever crowd for a political rally in the state—about 30,000 people.
Supporters of Obama got there early to get a good view—about nine hours early for some supporters.
Only a few hundred showed up for McCain this morning in NM.
Must be lots of crazies out there – 175,000 drawn by Senator Obama last week at rallies; NO ONE showed up for McCain’s rally in Sarasota FL.
Yep! Lots of us “crazies out here” – crazy to have supported Bush for 8 agonizing years. Looking forward to a new generation of government. Get used to saying PRESIDENT OBAMA!
Posted by: sandy | October 25, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
I love to see our two great American political masters at work, together!
Posted by: susanwillis | October 25, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
Obama does NOTHING without political calculation. Obama cares for NOTHING but his political advancement. How much KoolAid can his fans drink? Enough already. Obama has no qualifications to be president. He is being imposed on America by the liberal elite and the media. Obama is nonsense.
Posted by: speedy_453 | October 25, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
conf1689 – yes they do work but his supporters KNOW when he is coming! Many of his crowds consist of retired folks (many veterans), many college students who have time off during the day, or people like me who take a personal day when I know he is coming, or folks who work swing shifts. And an evening rally – a gift to his supporters!!! I would love to be at his rally this evening but gas for such a trip is beyond my reach right now as I live so far from Albuquerque.
Posted by: sandy | October 25, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm
My Parents just moved to FL a few months ago for retirement.Now they live in a rich community and are voting for Obama.I hope FL won’t be a repeat of 2000.
Posted by: Didi | October 25, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm
THE END IS NEAR
Posted by: t | October 25, 2008, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm
Just watched Senator Obama’s speech in NM online. HUGE crowd in Albuquerque for Senator Obama’s speech – put to shame McCain’s estimated 1,000 “crowd” this morning! All ages, all sizes and shapes, all colors, (White, Black, American Indian, Hispanics, Asians), “Cambio Change” – signs written in Spanish!!! Estimated crowd – 30,000. Go Obama!
Posted by: sandy | October 25, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm
didi Did they move for the no state income tax? They should be able to pay Obamas federal tax increase.
Posted by: conf1689 | October 25, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm
Sandy: most hispanics are conservative when it comes to social values. I bet most of those there do not really know who this Obama is. If they knew what his liberal supporters will do to the american family, many of those present at those meetings would not have gone. Obama is riding a facade into the white house. He is making empty promises and running a campaign of lies and deceit.
Obama is nonsense
Posted by: speedy_453 | October 25, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm
Geez, Obama campaigning with racist Clinton? Where’s Ferraro? One of the lowest points of the Obama campaign in the primaries was using the race card on both Clinton and Ferraro. Of course since it’s become apparent that there is still a great deal of fondness and respect for Bill in this Country (in particular after 8 years of George W) and that the Clinton’s are extremely popular down in Florida then I guess the Obama camp can forgive Bill his racism. What a joke.
Posted by: Melissa | October 26, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am
Nate: have you not had enough KoolAid already yet? Stop the gulping already.
Obama is nonsense.
Posted by: speedy_453 | October 26, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am
speedy_453 – maybe in past elections but NOT this one!!!! I have canvassed several times for Senator Obama in this state which has a HUGE Hispanic population. I have yet to find a Hipanic family NOT voting for Senator Obama. Nationwide he is carrying 46% of the Hispanic vote, carrying white voters by larger margins than any past presidential campaign in our lifetime, red states are turning a beautiful shade of blue, his electoral college count is between 277 to over 300 depending upon which electoral colllege map one observes, and the beat goes on….
Posted by: sandy | October 26, 2008, 12:06 am 12:06 am
Melissa: absolutely right. Obama is a joke. Even his trip to see his grandma was a political calculation. First they call the Clinton’s racist and now they are campaigning together. May america keep Obama away from the White House and vote him back to Ayer’s apartment.
Posted by: speedy_453 | October 26, 2008, 12:06 am 12:06 am
sandy: I don’t trust your numbers; you liberals are deceivers by nature. But even if those numbers were true, my point is that the hispanic voters that are supporting Obama do NOT know who Obama really is. If they knew what Obama and his liberal friends will do to the american family, hispanics would NOT vote for Obama.
Posted by: speedy_453 | October 26, 2008, 12:09 am 12:09 am
speedy_453 – that is because you are too lazy to check things out YOURSELF! All you do is repeat the talking points the McCain campaign hands you and run with them. Stupidity is hereditary…ignorance is inexcusable. Seems that you fall into both categories.
Posted by: sandy | October 26, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am
sandy: I know all I need to know about Obama to know he is not what America needs. Wether you accept it or not, Obama has been dear friends with racist Rev Wright. This cannot be good for America. Obama launched his political career in Ayers apartment! This cannot be good for America. Not to mention the liberal agenda against responsibility, families, etc.
No on Obama.
Posted by: speedy_453 | October 26, 2008, 12:24 am 12:24 am
Update on Albuquerque rally crowd count for Senator Obama: 35,000 who got in and 10,000-15,000 who stayed outside because they couldn’t get in! McCain rally crowd this morning in Albuquerque: 900.
Posted by: sandy | October 26, 2008, 1:07 am 1:07 am
Sandy: “I take it you do not own a television set, radio, or buy a newspaper.” No, that would make a democrat.
Obama is nonsense.
Posted by: speedy_453 | October 26, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am
Can anyone explain to me why Feldman pushed these two fake stories? (the one about the GOP girl who carved a backwards “B” in her face and then blamed a large black man…and now the awful story about a hateful Jewish letter)?
Aren’t these both stories of Republicans who got caught doing something terrible?
The girl is in jail and Feldman is in trouble\lost his job.
These are Republicans, right?
Posted by: gr8bigguy | October 26, 2008, 1:16 am 1:16 am
Obama is nonsense? YOU speedy are the biggest nonsense on this site…or should that be nuisance?????
Posted by: sandy | October 26, 2008, 1:16 am 1:16 am
sandy: keep dreaming; keep drinking the KoolAid.
Posted by: speedy_453 | October 26, 2008, 1:26 am 1:26 am
speedy_453 – Sorry, I do not drink kool-aid! :)
Posted by: sandy | October 26, 2008, 1:32 am 1:32 am
what ever happened to voting being one day only (except for absentee ballots) Whats this about extended voting periods in some states. Was obama (the terrorist behind this) I’m surprised extended voting periods didn’t happen when john kerry ( the dictator ) was running as the LIBERAL nominee on the ticket.
THE END IS NEAR
Posted by: t | October 26, 2008, 1:40 am 1:40 am
IF YOUR REGISTERED TO VOTE. VOTE! DO NOT STAY HOME. VOTE!
TELL YOUR BOSS YOUR VOTING & WILL BE LATE!
VOTE! VOTE! VOTE !
Posted by: Left Arm | October 26, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am
Sen. Barack Obama, the Democratic nominee, brings far more promise to the office. In a time of grave economic crisis, he displays thoughtful analysis, enlists wise counsel and operates with a cool, steady hand. The same cannot be said of Sen. McCain.
Since his early acknowledgement that economic policy is not his strong suit, Sen. McCain has stumbled and fumbled badly in dealing with the accelerating crisis as it emerged. He declared that “the fundamentals of our economy are strong” at 9 a.m. one day and by 11 a.m. was describing an economy in crisis. He is both a longtime advocate of less market regulation and a supporter of the huge taxpayer-funded Wall Street bailout. His behavior in this crisis — erratic is a kind description — shows him to be ill-equipped to lead the essential effort of reining in a runaway financial system and setting an anxious nation on course to economic recovery.
Posted by: jane | October 26, 2008, 2:40 am 2:40 am
Bush..oh Bush..it’s free music to everyone :)
Posted by: Tim | October 26, 2008, 3:01 am 3:01 am
isn’t good
Posted by: Free music | October 26, 2008, 3:05 am 3:05 am
Those who are voting for Obama/Biden are very short-sighted and are voting for the past. If you hate Bush and blame him on everything then you are just doing a protest vote. This is also not a personality contest if you are trying to compare them with McCain/Pailin…on who is cool. Substance matters. Look at the future where Obama/Biden and the Democrat super majority are going to take this country… to the ground. If you are employed right now and a low hanging fruit to become unemployed, I am sorry to say that by voting for Obama/Biden you will just be voting for your unemployment.
Posted by: golocks | October 26, 2008, 3:23 am 3:23 am
The end is near… Cute…(early voting) Reason, adequate machines, count is honest, machine problems and other issues as a result of the million plus new registrations and voters.
Posted by: RosaritoBjaCa | October 26, 2008, 7:23 am 7:23 am
Luke, Thank you for your comments.
The tone on this string is disturbing – but reflects the sound bites as pushed by both compaigns.
But these sound bites seem to reveal the basic mind-set of the 2 alternatives:
On the one hand – FEAR of the “other” or, as referred to by both McCain & Palin “them”. Fear of change, even though we know the status quo is deeply flawed; and fear that all our sins, of hatred and abuse, will come back to haunt us.
But on the other hand, I see Obama’s message as unstintingly positive. His unwillingness to descend into personal defensiveness and his efforts to refocus on the issues time and again in the last debate, to me, are indicative of a very different mind-set than what is feared.
Here in the South, I hear constant rumblings of fear of “those people” being put in charge of us. These seeds fall on fertile ground in an atmosphere of all-encompassing fear of our current financial situation. I have not observed the arrogance that so many fear, but a wonderful pride of so many Americans feeling that they are truly American in every sense. Interestingly, Newt Gingrich also commented on this phenomenon.
I believe that Obama will do what he thinks will work for our country, not one group, and that he understands that we can only stand together or we will surely fail.
Obama’s basic concept of “trickle up” seems to make so much sense. As I have understood my economics courses and as current events have supported, the multiplier effect of a $ in the hands on the middle class through jobs is much more powerful for our fundamental economy than putting another $ in the hands of the barons of Wall Street or even a “bail-out” that rewards avarice and stupidity and punishes prudence.
Forgive the length of this – got carried away.
Posted by: ms_risible | October 26, 2008, 8:12 am 8:12 am
President Clinton has not done anything above or beyond for Senator Obama. He made a one time show for him. His Rally was indeed successful but he holds a serious grudge. When Senator Obama is elected he will come thru for the American people even more than President Clinton did due to the economy crisis and the 2 ongoing wars. When President Clinton was elected he was not faced with multiple catastrophic issues like Senator Obama will have. In addition, our country has new issues in history to face and Senator Obama and Biden will have many things working at the same time. President Clinton’s personal grudge will bite him back later if he’s doing it to show his loyalty to Hillary. President Clinton has obviously made a choice here for political reasons. Four more years of the same Bush mentality rather than his loyalty to the American people. He wants both Bill and Hillary to make history as the first husband and wife who served as President of the United States. What he doesn’t know… Would Hillary do a better job with the major problems we have. Bill never served under these extreme conditions. He has taken a pompous stand on this. That’s selfish towards the American people and it should be a matter of “Country first” for President Clinton. The American people have no doubt Hillary will make a good President and she has our full support if she plans on returning in 2016 but now is now Bill Clinton. We have 2 wars and an economy that Bush and his administration threw under the bus. Where’s your loyalty you once had for the American people. Again, Hillary Clinton will be our FIRST woman President of the United States. Our FIRST woman period. Let us not put a woman V.P. in the oval office just because.
OBAMA/BIDEN08
Posted by: RosaritoBjaCa | October 26, 2008, 8:41 am 8:41 am
I want to thank those who will and are voting for Obama because they have their rights and can see the future of American people regaining respect in the world. If McCain is elected he will continue to impose some laws that shall hurt the American people in the world. American people were respected every where they went and the world was learning from American system of governments and education to which America is losing, the only way to face the world and say again that you are demonstrating freedom is by closing that fine line and embrace all American without discriminating and racialism and nepotism.
Let every American be an American no matter what color one has he or she is an American and God love them all just the same. Think about some one who is wearing clothes of $160.000 and yet is fighting for a poor person who is jobless?
Think of how some Americans are going to bed without food in their stomach and some one has millions in the bank?
Think someone is losing the family house because they can’t afford to pay their mortgage because they have no work or job, or it was overcharged I mean the house was not for the amount they were charged by the mortgage company the interest is high they can not renegotiate with the bank where do you think the affected American people turn to? Anyway, the American people have the answer in their hands if they make bad decision that will be their choice for the next five years therefore let us not make mistake as last election.
Think of those immigrants who are turned back to their countries where they have nothing to eat or clothe. While we are throwing tones of wasted food every day and waste clothes which some companies have turned to make millions of dollars and put them into their pockets without thinking of the people who are here and are looking for those clothes as the only way to have clothes on them. These clothes are being donated by American people to the American people who are less fortunate so that they can as well share and clothe themselves instead they are even being sold like new cloths to American who were to have those clothes for almost free. But today it’s a boom and work is impossible to get, where else do these people turn to? Obama is the answer to the poor, may God appoint him and cover him with his favor
Rev. J Kingara
Posted by: John kingara | October 26, 2008, 10:41 am 10:41 am
Remember, many do not look upon Bill Clinton with kindness. perhaps there has been reticence on Clinton’s part to campaign not just because of resentment and dislike (which is obviously there) but also because the Bill Clinton brand might not be popular with the long memories of some folks.
Posted by: yerkesdodsoncurve | October 26, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
Fifty bishops say US election is about abortion
Rocco Palmo 25 October 2008
A quarter of America’s bishops have said that the most important issue for voters in the forthcoming presidential election is abortion – comments that may help boost the fortunes of Republican candidate John McCain.
Some 50 out of the nation’s 197 active bishops have published articles or given interviews during the run-up up to the election urging abortion as the key issue on which voters should decide which way to vote.
Senator McCain opposes the 1973 Supreme Court ruling on Roe v. Wade, which legalised abortion in the US, but has refused – most recently, at last week’s final television debate between the presidential candidates – to impose an abortion-based “litmus test” on his Supreme Court nominees. The Democratic candidate, Barack Obama, has repeatedly indicated his support for the 1973 ruling alongside a pledge to sign a proposed Freedom of Choice Act that would invalidate any state or local ordinance intended to “deny or interfere” with a woman’s choice to have an abortion.
Among the bishops who have intervened is Bishop Robert Hermann of St Louis who last Friday wrote: “the issue of life is the most basic issue and must be given priority over the issue of the economy, the issue of war or any other issue.” His comment came in a column for the archdiocesan newspaper that appeared hours before Mr Obama addressed 100,000 people in the heavily Catholic city.
In Missouri – a normally Republican state where Mr Obama has taken a lead in the polls over recent weeks – Bishop Robert Finn of Kansas City-St Joseph wrote in his diocesan newspaper that “despite hardship, beyond partisanship, for the sake of our eternal salvation”, Catholic voters “should never” support a candidate who favours the continued legalisation of abortion.
In Colorado, Archbishop Charles Chaput of Denver made national headlines after calling Mr Obama “the most committed abortion-rights presidential candidate of either major party since the Roe v. Wade abortion decision”. Later that same day, saying that he was speaking solely as a “private citizen”, Archbishop Chaput told a dinner for a Catholic women’s organisation in his archdiocese that the assertion by his Catholic supporters “that Senator Obama is this year’s ‘real’ pro-life candidate requires a peculiar kind of self-hypnosis, or moral confusion, or worse”.
But a growing group of clergy has sought to counter the abortion-dominant focus. Speaking to The Washington Post, Bishop Gabino Zavala, auxiliary in Los Angeles, said: “There are many other issues we need to bring up,” and listed “racism, torture, genocide, immigration, war and the impact of the economic downturn on the most vulnerable among us”.
Bishop Zavala’s comments were echoed by Bishop Terry Steib of Memphis in Republican-dominated Tennessee, who wrote in his diocesan newspaper: “We cannot be a one-issue people.” He continued: “I have received letters from well-meaning people telling me for whom I should vote and how I should inform parishioners regarding the candidates for whom they should or should not cast their ballot … It is not my duty, nor is it my role.”
In a heavily anticipated discussion, the bishops are to debate the gravity of political support for abortion at their next Baltimore plenary, a week after the 4 November vote.
The US bishops issued voter guidelines last year which were approved by 98 per cent of the bishops’ conference. But the 30-page text has been seized upon by lay-led Catholic interests supporting both Mr Obama and Mr McCain. As Mr McCain’s backers have sought to focus on the document’s assertions that “intrinsic evils” such as abortion, euthanasia, embryonic stem-cell research and human cloning “must never be supported”, Mr Obama’s advocates emphasise passages that state Catholics “are not single-issue voters” and “should not use a candidate’s opposition to an intrinsic evil to justify indifference or inattentiveness to other important moral issues involving human life and dignity”.
Posted by: HANK | October 26, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
“I think Senator Obama made it very clear where he stands on the issue of abortion,” said Dean. “This is a personal decision that the government does not have the right to make but,
If an alive baby outside the womb is still a “personal decision”, then that should give me the right to eliminate anyone I so personally chose at any stage of life, since they have become an inconvenience?
Congressmen like these are an inconvenience.
Posted by: CAROLE | October 26, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
I have a real need to know why no one will discuss the issues instead of picking at each other like kids why don’t they bring up McCain’s moral character. It should be embarassing to look so stupid to only throw jabs when in reality we all need answers to our growing problems. Its bewildering to say the least.
Posted by: Kathy K | October 26, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
“right now and a low hanging fruit to become unemployed, I am sorry to say that by voting for Obama/Biden you will just be voting for your unemployment.”
Posted by: golocks
golocks, it was under Republican “economics” that thousands and thousands of jobs were lost. If we continue under the same policies, then how are jobs going to be regained? Do you know why jobs were lost? Because the middle class has no money to stimulate the economy! When the middle class stops spending money, then large and small companies that sell goods and services do not have enough people to buy their goods and services and therefore, they must downsize because they are not selling their products to consumers. Ask yourself (well if you are middle-class, less than $250K) are you buying less that what you were about 5-6 years ago? Well if so, then that gives you a small glimpse of what happens when 90%+ of Americans who are middle class are not buying as much, and how this affects those companies that are letting people go. That is what is causing the joblessness in this country! Obama wants to turn that around by giving middle-class Americans a moderate tax cut to help them gain more confidence in spending money. And those people making over $250K will get a 3% increase per year which is about $7,000 for income right at $250K.
Posted by: lkinopfl | October 26, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
When did it become ok to support UNWED pregnancies, those of you who call yourself Republicans? What type of message are you sending our children? This is not ok with me. And trust me when I tell you I am (was) a very conservative republican until SHE came into the picture. John McCain had my vote, but I don’t want my 14 year old daughter thinking this is acceptable nor the standard. Don’t we have enough to deal with, let alone a VP who supports teenage, unwed, SINFUL sex?
Posted by: ketherly | October 26, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
I truly admire that solidarity within the democratic party. And nothing makes me more proud than to see the former president Clinton standing side by side with our future commander in Chief Senator Obama. How exciting and sweet it will be the day when the democrats take control both Houses the Senate & Congress. There is no question, Obama is going to bring the best changes ever in American lives. He is real reformer who is going to shake up things and clean Washington. I hope McCain can stop lying to call himself a reformer after he voted 90% of the time with president Bush. Now, I have great faith in the American people that they will not be fooled again by McCain/Bush. This message is for McCain and his 25% supporters, the fact is most American simply don’t trust you and that’s why they all want to vote for Senator Obama. McCain, I urge you to go back home in Arizona and eat your barbecue ribs. And please, hockey mom give us a break and we are tired of listening to your craps. Case closed, we already made up our minds to go for Obama/Biden ticket. We got fooled twice and no more again. Enough is enough.
Posted by: strongguer | October 26, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
Barack Obama and President Bill Clinton together!! Wow – what a crowd draw. Yes, it has been somewhat hard for Bill Clinton. He really wanted it for Hilary. And he love being at the top.
I am proud that Obama and Clinton have come together. Time does have way of healing rgw soul.
Hope full rally will be televised. Excited to watch.
Posted by: Sharonklim | October 26, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm
I agree Obama is a danger. I worked for the FBI anti terror unit for 25 years. All of Obama’s associates were under our watch. They are attached to world wide terror groups. Obama is a extreme left wing anti american constitution, He is far worse than Castro or Chavez. He received over $$$250 million fraud campaign donations from Iran and Saudi. Wake up america. If he is elected their would have to be a milatary coup to remove him. After 25 years as a counter terror expert I must warn America Obama is a enemy of your freedom and safety.
Posted by: Chesty | October 30, 2008, 10:05 am 10:05 am
Clinton only campaigned with Obama so he would pay off Hillary’s 10 million campaign debt. The unity of the democrat party is a alussion and comes down to money and lies. Obama used the same acorn fraud votes to rob Hilliary.
Posted by: Kathy | October 30, 2008, 10:12 am 10:12 am