Citing Space Constraints, Obama Campaign Kicks Off the Plane Reporters from Newspapers Whose Coverage it Doesn’t Like

they should have kicked fox news off too… but once obama wins, fox will be irrelevant

McCain dropped people he did not like months ago

To Earthisnotflat:
Can wait until you regret your decision. I give it 3 months and the media will start will real news about the empty suit.

Kind of like Helen Thomas being moved out for a Fox News correspondent by President Bush. Thine own medicine does taste bitter, doesn’t it cons? You betcha!

That is bull. and they run around saying that the other side is bias and negative. PLEASE they are exactly the same.

Are you kidding me? What about McCain kicking Joe Klein off his plane? Why is the media cherry picking this?

They should have kicked off FOX NEWS too!

Muzzling the media !!! Where have we seen this in the past ?? -

The press are only annoyed because now they will have to travel with John McCain. And we all know that you don’t want to be on a plane with McCain around.
[Hey guys, where are the large blocks of text copied from Fox News. Nothing gets your point across more than mass cut and paste.]

Wow. For a party who cries effigies of a female VP, video games of a terrorist shooting the current President, and foul mouthed screeds by comedians and entertainers as free speech, they sure don’t value actual free speech much.
How Orwellian and not to mention hypocritical in the case of those who were crying out about Palin even discussing banning books with Wasilla’s librarian.

Let’s see:
– Obama uses thug tactics in Missouri to use taxfunded police to arrest anyone speaking negative of him.
– Obama supporters inundate Chicago interview of Stanley Kurtz with calls, even though Kurtz spoke from facts.
– Biden has a bad interview in Florida, station gets banned
– Biden has a bad interview in Philly, station gets banned.
– New Yorker posts cover cartoon of Obama that is not flattering, they get banned from plane.
– Large papers endorse mcCain, they get banned.
– Bill Burton attacks Foxnews for reporting on the 2001 Obama interview, Burton attacks Fox, but doesn’t attack the person who found the interview, nor the candidate himself for making the comemnts.
– the is clear bias toward Obama by the media, but he whines and gets mad if anyone says the slightest thing negative about him, usually calling it racist.
Do you see a trend? That anyone who speaks against The One gets some sort of punishment? What is going to happen to America when The One is given full power?
Be afraid, be very afraid Americans, if you are stupid enough to elect Obama, our country will be destroyed.
I love America too much, do you?

I don’t understand why this is news!!!!
Are we so against OBAMA that this will spin out to be something other than what it is. Let me tell you if they left FOX news on the plane than that is all I need to know that their is no story here.
Something else for McCain to talk about other than the issues…..Economy, Taxes, or anything other than talking about Pro AMERICA or THESE AMERICAN’S. I AM AN AMERICAN period…. STOP THE HATE
IF you can’t talk about things that your campain manager stated would lose the election for you OK but I would Like to know why hasn’t your running mate given her medical records as promised? or is my running mate going to be charged with ETHIC violations AGAIN? When are these answers going to be given. We already know what you will do for the country McCain (NOTHING)nilth, nada…..I watched a campain speech by you and all you could talk about was “Joe the Plumber” or OBAMA this OBAMA that..WHAT ARE YOUR POLICIES!!!!!!

Like they can write anything new at this point. They have made their case agaisnt Obama, they can complain about him from home.
Also, McCain has kicked reporters he’s not that fond of off his transporation before. So don’t even try to sound like he’s above such things.

Good for him, why should he cater to people against him?

Jen B. :”they sure don’t value actual free speech much. ”
How does this impinge free speech? How does not giving these reporters a free ride on his plane does this impinge free speech in any way?
THINK BEFORE SPOUTING A TALKING POINT YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND.

I dont think it is fair to suggest Jake is being biased in this report. He isnt judging, hes merely reporting the story..give him a break! He has been one of the best reporters on election issues.
As a Canadian, I sincerely hope the voters will elect Obama. I want to go to sleep Tuesday night knowing that there will be a change in stle and substance on international issues. We need a stable reasoned approach in these perilous times.

A man who spends that much on frivolous campaign infomercials and ads in states where he is winning and then has his spox say ‘logistics’ are the excuse, well that is hypocrisy or just lame.
But it’s his plane. The logo says so. And on Tuesday, it may become ‘his’ country and his logo too. It may become pretty harsh for his critics.

liberati: “Do you see a trend?”
That Republicans are still trying their Big Lie and slander technique even though they have been caught at it so many times they no longer have the credibility to pull it off?
Yup, I’ve definitely seen that cut-and-paste trend.

len: “A man who spends that much on frivolous campaign infomercials ”
You should look up frivolous in the dictionary sometime. I don’t think it means what you think it means.

Did you forget that McCain campaign kicked out Joe Klein of Time Magazine and Maureen Dowd of the New York Times?

Wow — the shape of things to come! The Wednesday night infomercial reveals that Obama said he’d always be honest about how he feels if he disagrees with someone. Now you know — he kicks them off the bus. So where’s the big change between him and Bush? That of course, means Mc CAIN is ABLE to win.

McCain did it also.. and so did Palin
So this is a mute issue and not news worthy.

“Progressive taxing is Not socialism, and charity and creating opportunities for the common good are not communism either.”
That sounds very much like Obama’s philosophy. Thanks for clarifying that for us.
And if trying to protect the middle class from the predatory aristocracy is “class warfare,” then so be it.

You neo-cons rail about Obama bumping reporters from HIS plane, but I don’t see you up in arms over Palin saying she was against a “free press”.
She has the gall to say that reporters asking her questions “violates her first amendment rights”, do you think she even knows what the first amendment is?

d0: “The ideal of sharing wealth, equalizing class divide has been so powerful, ”
…it is the basis of every first world nation’s government in the world (perhaps barring the under-1 million folks in Iceland with their 36% tax rate – and an explicitly socialist government). Are you really so dim as to think this is coincidence? That the rich, wealthy and powerful have all gravitated to first world nations with a progressive, spread the wealth tax structure?
It is the ONLY governmental system found in mankinds history to be both free and stable. But the Republican Party of Ignorance counts on it’s base to not be able to understand that simple lesson of history.
Going back to the tax rates used under President Clinton in the 90′s and the capital gains tax rate enacted by Reagan in the late 80′s is in NO WAY marxism.
Idiot.

Funny some of the same people whining online had no problem when McCain and Palin started kicking selected press off their planes months ago.
Hypocrites
Now where are the Palin Medical Records?

“– Obama uses thug tactics in Missouri to use taxfunded police to arrest anyone speaking negative of him.”
Never happened. Just another right wing lie.
“– Obama supporters inundate Chicago interview of Stanley Kurtz with calls, even though Kurtz spoke from facts.”
Kurtz told lies and is still telling lies. I guess its only ok for right winger to use their free speech rights though.
“– Biden has a bad interview in Florida, station gets banned”
Wife of GOP Media consultant does not get Jill Biden…bfd.
“– Biden has a bad interview in Philly, station gets banned.”
Station was not banned.
“– New Yorker posts cover cartoon of Obama that is not flattering, they get banned from plane.”
New Yorker was not banned. Ryan Lizza did not make the Europe trip.
“– Large papers endorse mcCain, they get banned.”
The Moonie Times is not a large paper. and NY is blue so no need for the Post.
“Do you see a trend?”
Yes right wingers are desperate.

jock59801,
OK, I will edit it and delete that sentence if it so offends you as a distraction.
How about his?
The ideal of sharing wealth, equalizing class divide has been so powerful, sweeping half a Europe and Asia and South America in the first half of the 20th Century.
The ideals of Marxism are not necessarily wrong; in fact, they are extremely appealing, and the history of the 20th century is a proof.
Yet, none of the practitioners have achieved their noble causes, each has left millions dead, in smaller places like Vietnam and Cambodia, and 10s of millions in larger states. The only major survivor of this practice is China, who has adopted Capitalism by all means except some certain rights that we enjoy here as granted – which is a different topic.
Socialism, a precursor of Communism, has never had a chance being practiced in the US.
Few really know what socialism is, but what 0bama wants to do IS socialism.
0bama is masterfully adopting the classic class divide of Karl Marx, playing one class – the 95% of the poor – against another class – the rich, the 5% to achieve his ambition.
It is not progressive taxation that makes 0bama a socialist.

Obama gave those seats to Jet and other black magazines.

we’v all seen how palin reviles the educated. she keeps the curtain closed all the time on all the flights never letting them have any access at all. she hates the thinking kind of people. she can’t answer any questions when grandpa mccain isn’t sitting at her side or she didn’t get tutored that morning. OHHH.. and the latest, she snubbed Penn State’s president from attending her rally that he allowed her to have at his school. More proof she hates smart people. Just brilliant. You don’t snub a local in a state you’re trying to win.

This is just another frighteningly communist move by the Obama camp.
Democrat for McCain/Palin – Obama scares the h*ll out of me

no one is scared of socialism talk. old grannies everywhere are all too happy to continue collecting their social security checks and medicare without you pure capitalists screwing with it.

it looks like most of you have your tin foil hats on this morning.
how nice.

What a surprise!
Now that you have promoted him or not to the finish line, he needs you no mo.
History, well 4 months are long enough, is always a witness.
Have we seen it before, anything familiar?
0bama promised to vote against and even filabuster the FISA bill, when he needed you in the primaries.
0bama breaks his promise, voted for giving Bush the power to spy on you, to take your constitutional right away, when he believes he had you in the Democratic camp and need you no more.

Here’s a question to anyone. Given the obvious circumstances, e.g., some media reps had to go; Who would you have chosen to ask to leave?
I don’t know if there was/is a list of the media reps that are on the plane for each of the campaigns, and the choice of papers that have endorsed the opposition (of either candidate) doesn’t end with those three I’m sure.
Who would you have picked? Why? And is it “fair” to choose or would a candidate be constrained to choices that won’t rile the opposition supporters?

d0
Hey, that was the only sentence that made sense. LOL. All of those people were killed by totalitarianism, not socialism.

Why is Fox News flying around with Obama?

E_DAY – 4: ELECTORAL COLLEGE EV POLLS
Obama 364
McCain 171
Tie 3
Please help me introduce President Obama.

Obama does not believe in freedom of speech, or freedom of the press. He holds the press hostage, either by threatening them with the “race card” or by threatening to exclude them, like he did here. Remember that he excluded ABCNEWs from hosting later debates after he didn’t like questions Stephanopolis posed at the debate with Hillary.
Don’t vote Obama. He opposes our constitutional rights.

It’s frighteningly communist not to decide to have a reporter from the Chicago Sun Times instead of the New York Post? Have you ever read the New York Post? Is it frighteningly communist to kick Maureen Dowd (New York Times) and Joe Klein (Time) off the McCain/Palin planes? Silly, silly, silly.
Giving $700 Billion to Wall Street and nationalizing banks and mortgage companies is socialism. So is deciding that petroleum in Alaska belongs to the state:
“And Alaska we’re set up, unlike other states in the union, where it’s collectively Alaskans own the resources. So we share in the wealth when the development of these resources occurs.” “We share in the wealth.” Sarah Palin You sure do. Alaska is its own little commune.

Mr. Tapper,
BTW, this article is near perfectly spun to solicit a “they’re against the others that don’t agree” response. Couldn’t you do one concerning Sen. McCain that would convey the same ‘flavor’. It’s certainly not mis-information but it is presented with facts that belie the issue, who would be chosen, by whom and what effect it would have on the remainder of the campaign. I am sure the reporters for the NYPost and the WashTimes do not feel the least bit ‘slighted’, in truth but I may be wrong.

Missing Information from Mr. Tapper: #595 in a Series:
Several weeks ago, the McCain campaign kicked both Maureen Dowd and Joe Klein off their campaign planes. Space was not a issue. Both Dowd and Klein had been critical of Mr. McCain’s incredible VP choice, Sarah Palin. Now, why didn’t Mr. Tapper mention this? It seems pretty relevant to the topic.

I am not surprised about Obama’s behavior. He wants this to be a communist country and is already showing his true colors.
He wants to do away with that pesky Constitution, he will pull a Hugo Chavez if he gets in, no more term limits and any opposition will be jailed. His police will take over and anyone that voices their approval of Obama and his socialist, Marxist policies will be condemned.
No one will be allowed to question him.. Is this really what we want in a leader? They don’t want it in Venezeula, North Korea, Vietnam, Soviet Union….Immigrants come here for our freedoms and opportunity’s, to get away from their communist states. But here we are letting a communist lead us blindly to slaughter with his Hope and Change mantra.

Isn’t if funny how Sarah Palin can’t stand smart people and gets mad when anyone asks her even a SIMPLE question? That’s really too bad that she’s been avoiding the media and won’t take any questions unless she knows them ahead of time and grandpa mccain gives her the answers cause she has to have time to write them on the back of her hand.

Posted by: d0 | Oct 31, 2008 1:17:59 PM
*If its a class struggle, then why would we sit back and keep giving to those who have it? Why does Exxon deserve a 4 Billion tax credit from McCain? They just made a record quarter profit. I’m not sure where in the World its okay to keep giving to those who have the most.. give it up! you don’t make over $250,000!

When has Obama mentioned his race?
Um, how about when he said..”uh, as you can see, I . . . I don’t look like any other president on the money.” He looked at the African diplomats in the front row. “The U.S. money — not your money, of course.”
To what was he referring to, if not race? He wasn’t responding to attacks, he was forecasting attacks that, ironically, McCain never made.

S Adams:
I would accept Obama extending any measures to get rid of Rush and Sean…..
Whatever it takes!!!! those two voices of demonic activity must stop….

think it’s funny anyone calls obama a socialist when you are all socialist if you’ve ever attended public school, received a social security check or medicare. if you hate these socialist programs so much, then take your kids out of school and pay for granny straight out of your own pocket. we have a mixed economic philosophy in this country and that’s the bottom line.
Posted by: birdy | Oct 31, 2008 1:21:53 PM
* Conservatives have a big imagination. In fact, for some reason they believe America is theirs and only theirs.. but what they don’t realize is they are the reason why we are where are today.
What we really are voting for are the policies of the past two Presidents.
Clinton VS Bush
we have a $7500 increase in annual income under Clinton
we have a $2000 decline in annual income under Bush
** You who are voting for McCain will continue to lose money. The smart people will relive the prosperity we enjoyed during Clinton years.
and if you don’t like it, then build yourselves bridges to nowhere, Alaska and go live w/ Sarah Palin in her corrupt state.

Jen B.:
Did you just get to this country? He doesn’t look like aany previous POTUS, to my knowledge.
Appearance, age, faith and all manner of information has been used in pass elections to marginalize the opposition of the more ‘status quo’ candidate. It’s an obvious not even intellectual observation. Really, I can’t believe you would think of that as the proverbial “race card”. It’s merely the truth. I have never seen or read a reporter “back down” or be cowed by an observation. Neither have I seen any indication that the MSM won’t address this issue, where do you get that impression? Again, amazing people, we’re not on the playground…curb the hyperbole, this is supposed to be a serious deliberative process.

Jake, one question. Are any of those booted papers owned by Sam Zell??????
I assume the LA Times has a good seat as well as other Zell papers.

Sharon,
I guess you support the wire tapping of all Americans then?

birdie Yes the grannies are happy to collect their rightful social security checks as McCain protects them. Now let me ask you this have you actually seen Obamas tax plan for seniors? Website QUOTE “eliminating Income taxes for seniors making less than $50,000. Barack Obama will eliminate all income taxation for seniors making less than $50,00 per year. This will eliminate taxes for 7 million seniors saving them an average $1,400 a year and will also mean that 27 million seniors will not need to file income tax return at all.” Now let me ask you this. Do you know that there are many wealthy seniors( I believe age 62+)have a$50,000 stock dividend income which in return means they have a multimillion dollar stock portfolio? And Obama mister middle class is going to have them exempt from filing. No wonder so many wealthy Florida retirees have jumped over to Obama. With a vote getter plan like this. So please tell me with him eliminating taxes from this wealthy base who is going to carry the burden? The middle class families?

This is just what dictators do, gag the press, investigate opponents, use propaganda…
A basic citizen asks a simple question and sees his life investigated because he didn’t like the answer. The non supporting press is being muzzled…
And that’s just the campaign. Wait, god forbids, that this guy gets in power…
Very scary reminder of most dictators rise to power.
God Bless America and protect us from Obama.

“He was merely quoting what others may express”
No. Obama was putting words into nameless people’s mouths. Words that no person ever said except OBAMA himself.

Paint VA Blue:
I understand your desire to see Obama win, but I must suggest that you please don’t say mean things like that about McCain…….Also, we shall be looking at Obama not just for the next four years as president, but for the next 8 years as president……
Otherwise, thank you for helping to paint PA blue…..

and this is news how? McCain have been doing this for MONTHS cause they hate the media. Palin can’t even have a single interview without grandpa mccain by her side since mean ol’ katie couric asked all those hard questions. ohh boo hoo…

and this is news how? McCain and Palin have been doing this for MONTHS cause they hate the media. Palin can’t even have a single interview without grandpa mccain by her side since mean ol’ katie couric asked all those hard questions. ohh boo hoo…

speaking of fox news , has anybody else noticed that they are getting ready for the obama presidency?
they are now all about changing their image and toning down the anti liberal rhetoric ,tick by tick.
just like the republicans , who are so despised by most americans now that they cant even RUN or CAMPAIGN as a republican. they have to use deceit to even get a vote for dogcatcher…pathetic and typical republican behavior.
they leave their party affiliation or any mention of it OFF of their ads and flyers ,and use democratic blue to confuse the nonchalant voter and hopefully steal a few democratic votes along the way.
elizabeth dole in nc and virginia foxx ,both nc republican incumbents, are both examples of lying republicans who will do or say anything to stay in office and keep reaming everyone.i have personally recently heard them telling bold faced lies and republican tall tales that are so crazy only whacko republican crazies COULD believe it.
amazing…
anyway ,have fun today republican cheater/liars because new laws are going to be made very soon to require republicans (and democrats) to 100% inform voters what party they are affiliated with ,in all contacts or ads.
STICK A FORK IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY !!ITS DONE!!

He probably didn’t want them reporting that his ceiling income for tax cuts dropped again today, down to $120,000.

Sicial Security is what we paid in and get back, is not taking ftom someone else to give to a bum who refuses to work.

Obama was a Socialist or had very close ties to them, may still be.
**
So wait was he? or wasn’t he? do you know? are you assuming? where’s your facts? Has Obama ever said he was a socialist?
you don’t know! So stop being such a pretender!
I got it! GOP-pretender

McCain has done this in the past. Why is this a story for the Democrats then?
Yawn.

Obama is a fake, nothing rings true when it comesto his past

Paintvgblue As a resident of DEMOCRATIC BLUE LIBERAL MASSACHUSETS I can honestly say I think you are going to be very BLUE being BLUE. I have some relatives and friends who have moved to Virginia and have been so much happier there with your RED status. Cost of living is lower probably because you have some republicans in office, more job opportunity then in my area of Mass., much more affordable colleges both state and private. Much more affordable real estate and so much more opportunity. So once again I’d be careful what you wish for. I am sur you ar amuch better fiscally run atate then Massachusetts. The liberals love to take from one to give to the other, even when they know there is an overabundance of fraud in the social services set up to help the less fortunate. But they don’t care it brings them votes.

Losers support socialism, because the idea of sharing other people’s wealth appeals to them. Sad reminder of Europe, especially France, where driving a nice car gets you plenty of dirty looks.

First Obama attacked Joe the Plumber in the Media, then it was cutting off access to a Florida news station that asked Joe Biden tough questions! Now kicking 3 reporters of his plane how decided not to endorse him. Yea this guy works across the Isle! This guy will attack anyone who opposes him! We will all be in prison camps if we appose this great dictator once you fools elect him.

If he’s the messiah then I’m the pope.

My state is true RED, inflation lower than national average, unemployment dropped from over 4 points to 3.6 th is quarter, low crime, housing market has not slumped as in other areas of the US. gas at 2.09 per gallon. GO MCAIN/PALIN

Paintvgblue As a resident of DEMOCRATIC BLUE LIBERAL MASSACHUSETS I can honestly say I think you are going to be very BLUE being BLUE. I have some relatives and friends who have moved to Virginia and have been so much happier there with your RED status. Cost of living is lower probably because you have some republicans in office, more job opportunity then in my area of Mass., much more affordable colleges both state and private. Much more affordable real estate and so much more opportunity. So once again I’d be careful what you wish for. I am sur you ar amuch better fiscally run atate then Massachusetts. The liberals love to take from one to give to the other, even when they know there is an overabundance of fraud in the social services set up to help the less fortunate. But they don’t care it brings them votes.
Posted by: conf1689 | Oct 31, 2008 1:51:49 PM
** Fortunately for me, you don’t live here. And I’ve attended public college here (raising 6% each year) Also the standard of living may not be as high, but when your income in declining and prices are increasing, that really doesn’t help. Virginians and many Americans alike are tired of being lied to. And also to dispell that rumor about ‘real va’ and not ‘real va’ well I live in the part of ‘real va’ Lynchburg VA home of Jerry Falwell and the people around here are sick of the republican party too! Look we’ve had democratic governors for the past couple of years and we love them here! VA is changing and I’m excited about that. I love the beach, the city, and the mountains but all across the state Virginians are voting for Obama.
**We wished for Bush in 2000 and 2004. We now realized back then we should have been careful what we wished for. We’re taking the blanket off our eyes and voting for some who’s real and cares for our nation.

If Obama is the future of the Democrats I want nothing to do with them.
Starting with Hillary they became the party of thugery and mean-spirited attacks.
With attacks on a simple man for asking a question to vile attacks on an opponents family.
Obama and Biden mocking the dreams of a plumber, arrogantly lecturing us on how to live, and boldly telling us who to give our money to.
Liberals/Democrats have proven to be anything but open-minded except to embrace racist pastors and domestic terrorist.
Led by Obama they are nothing more than the party of lies and intimidation.

John
The New Party was not socialist. It wasn’t even really a Party. I was a member myself for awhile, and I never even heard the term used by anyone.

His REAL NAME is “JOE THE UNLICENSED PLUMBER WHO JOHN MCCAIN WOULD TAX MORE THAN OBAMA WOULD.” See, Joe only makes $40,000 a year. (For you right wing math majors out there, 40,000 is less than 250,000.) The company he works for ALSO makes less than $250,000 a year.
Joe was LYING. Get it? LYING. And so are McCain and Palin.
When you give tax breaks to working Americans who will spend it on stuff they need, instead of to billionaires who will just stash it in offshore bank accounts, you are stimulating the economy, increasing corporate earnings, and yes, “spreading the wealth”. That’s not socialism, that’s CAPITALISM. That’s not anti-American, that’s PRO-AMERICAN.

Sorry, Blip. You’re mistaken. He warned on June 21st that the Republicans would attack his race. He said in Jacksonville:
“It is going to be very difficult for Republicans to run on their stewardship of the economy or their outstanding foreign policy. We know what kind of campaign they’re going to run. They’re going to try to make you afraid.
They’re going to try to make you afraid of me. He’s young and inexperienced and he’s got a funny name. And did I mention he’s black?”
He played it, played it first (unless you count Hillary’s camp), and the MSM has made a point of making everything about it ever since.

Maybe Obama is afraid of losing the election so he wants to stomp down on free speech right now while he still has the chance.

Obama is a good salesman but I’m not buying. How many more ties to extremists people need to understand this guy is dangerous.

They can put whoever they want on the plane… it’s their plane.
But I dispise the way you wrote this post as if this is the first time this has happened.
McCain kicked Joe Kline, and Moreen Dowd off his plane last month!

Your own McCain has made the state that Obama is NOT a socialist… Larry King, Live.
OBAMA IS NOT A SOCIALIST. Sarah on the other hand has proven she is.

What does this have to do with free speech? This is about who you invite into your private quarters, and that is not likely to be people who have been attacking and lying about you.

Joe the Democrat has been brainwashed and now repeats continuously the same sad song.

“You have absolutely no idea what Obama or his children heard in their church”
yes he does. Wright had a Pastor’s column in the church bulletin. racist anti-American trash.

the party’s own statement of its principles is clearly socialist. For example:
* The establishment, defense, and facilitation of worker, consumer, shareholder, and taxpayer rights to democratic self-organization.
* The democratization of our banking and financial system-including popular election of those charged with public stewardship of our banking system, worker-owner control over their pension assets, community-controlled alternative financial institutions. [Ed.: Hey, we may be in the process of "achieving" that one, and during a Republican administration, too!]
* Full employment, a shorter work week, and a guaranteed minimum income for all adults; a universal “social wage” to include such basic benefits as health care, child care, vacation time, and lifelong access to education and training; a systematic phase-in of comparable worth and like programs to ensure gender equity.

If you look at obama and his plans they fall right in line with the New party line. SOCIALISM

“I went to the same church for twenty years, but had no idea the reverend was anti-american.” Yeah right. The anti-american speech was on Thursdays and I go on Sundays.

Why do so many excuse Obama’s behavior by pointing to McCain? How does this justify anything? Two wrongs actually do equal a right in this brave new world? I’m not gettin’ it and I suspect that many independants & undecideds do not get it either.

Thank god for Fox News or we would all be fed Obama’s propaganda intravenously

Biden said $150K was upper limit of middle class’s incomes and Richardson said today $120 would be Obama’s upper limit for middle class. Obama’s definition of middle class is shrinking quickly everyday and no peep from ABC News about this. Instead they’re celebrating Obama’s dancing in the end zone.

“Obama is proposing a roll back of the Bush tax cuts”
Which means our taxes will go up.
Thanks for pointing out obama is a liar.
and Obama would let the “death tax” get re-instated too.

Willtor
If Wright was actually anti-American, you might have a point.

With Obama, Hope is all you’ll get. Wake up and smell the coffee. Work is to be rewarded and laziness punished.
We already have a progressive tax system. But Obama doesn’t think it’s enough.
Pay more because you’re smarter and are willing to to work harder is what he says. And euh oh by the way, I’ll give the extra money to people not generating much for this country… Obama is buying the people.

jock59801
FYI someone who says a dozen time “God **** America” is anti-American to me…

Oh! The dreaded death tax!
Did you know that if you can’t afford to pay the death tax… they keep you on life support until you get better, then pay the death tax, and then they let you die!
Oh… I hate the death tax. It is so sad and unfair.
But the estate tax is a great idea. I think you can pass along 2 million dollars, before they start taxing an inheritance.

do not hate anyone, but wil not vote for a man that hates america and wants to change our constitution. listen to his 2001 radio talk in chicago

Remind me again who has been in control of Congress for the past two years?? Was it Pelosi and her bad facelifts making her look like the JOKER, was it Barney Frank who had a lover as an exec with Fannie Mae and told us in July that the housing market was fine with respect to Fannie and Freddie, was it Chris Dodd who took the most money from Fannie Mae…..shall we keep going??????
Posted by: UnPoliticallyCorrect2008 | Oct 31, 2008 2:18:40 PM
** two year?
Republicans held it for the first 6 years of the Bush Presidency..
Now we’re fighting a war in the wrong country~> Nanci and Barney didn’t do that! All they’ve done is tried to stop these GOPers from ruining our nation even more! Go Nanci! Go Barney! Go Reid!
Go anyone! other than a republican~

(Unless you have said it before….please tell me you haven’t!)

John…
So you think that whenever somebody says “Change” it is part of the international Obama conspiracy to brainwash our youth and turn them over to the international bankers?
But did anyone tell you that international bankers are just puppets for the Annunaki? The shapeshifting, reptilian beings who control our world.

June 21st Obama mentioned race when Ann Coulter and other racists were saying stuff about him months ago.
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Now, now, birdy. Here I was good enough to supply a date and an exact quote from Obama and you want to try and blow it off with an unsubstantied claim like that. Tsk tsk. Hardly fair. I thought fairness is the new direction.
Senator Obama was barely on Ann’s radar. She was railing against the Republican candidates because none of them were conservative enough for her. And she even talked about throwing her support to Hillary, thinking she would be the DNC’s choice.
If you have quotes, I’ll be happy to publicly apologize, but the first time I heard raced mentioned negatively was after the Carolina primary and it was Bill Clinton who did it, not a Republican.

What I love are the towering intellectual giants that have concluded that three reporters left off the gravy plane leads inevitably to the imposition of prison camps and thought police. Hoo! What’s in YOUR Kool-Aid? ‘Cause I gotta tell ya, nothing we’re drinking on this side is anywhere near THAT good!
There’s no constitutional right to hitch a ride on a candidate’s plane. I wish there was – as a writer for ABCNews.com (in a manner of speaking), I would love to avail myself of such.
Alas for me and for thousands of writers that actually get, you know, paid to write, the criteria to ride the gravy plane is solely determined by the campaign which is, you know, PAYING for it. And the campaign always cherry-picks the press to their own advantage. That’s a given. Might as well complain that Rutherford B. Hayes wouldn’t let the Daily Telegraph writer on board the train during his last whistle-stop campaign.
It’s a political campaign. It’s not a mass-transit program for disadvantaged journalists.

The HUGE difference between Republican sins and Democratic sins is the party identification.
When McCain gives money to someone like Khalidi… it is no big deal. When Obama says something nice about the guy… it is a huge deal.
When McCain says something nice about ACORN… it is no big deal. When Obama gives ACORN money… it is a huge deal.
The only consistent thing here is this: All of the smears are coming from one place: McCain.
McCain attacks with some baseless guilt-by -association attack, swearing up and down that the sky is falling. Obama supporters respond by correctly noting that McCain is also associated with the very same figures!
The point of it all: Just ignore the McCain smears. They mean nothing, except that McCain is hiding from the real issues by running a sleazy campaign.

“I’ve been fighting alongside ACORN on issues you care about my entire career. Even before I was an elected official, when I ran Project Vote voter registration drives in Illinois, ACORN was smack dab in the middle of it, and we appreciate your work.” — Barack Obama, Speech to ACORN, November 2007

Again….with a Columbia and Harvard education, you would think the Messiah would understand simple math!
How on earth are you going to provide a tax cut to 95% of Americans when over 40% do not pay taxes? Of those remainder 55%, a good portion only pay payroll taxes, which under the “Ones” plan, you will never see more than $500 back and that is pending you owe nothing! Hmmmmmmmmmmm
Health Insurance, just how does Obama plan to implement a Universal Health Care coverage? Do you think the middle class will get stuck with that bill?…I think so…..But, all we have to do is look at Hawaii and see that they folded up that tent because it did not work and cost TOOOOOOOOO much MONEY!
Moving on, how on earth does he plan on paying for his $1 Trillion shopping spree? Do you suppose the middle class tax payers will foot that bill?? I think so.
And what about education? Well, all one has to do is see where Obama sent $50 million dollars….yes, that was not to the public schools for math and science but rather to the charter schools of AYERS choice. Yes, there is proof so lay off the smart remarks!
Wow…sure is nice to see what a Columbia and Harvard education gets you these days! Of course, we have yet to see his college transcripts, college thesis or ANYTHING he wrote for the harvard law review….hmmmmmm

Hey, Jake. Does the O-man’s plane still stink, as you reported some time ago?

And major corps are preparing for a roll forward on retail prices.
Posted by: Scott | Oct 31, 2008 2:15:58 PM
good for them Scott. you might want to add a caveat to that prediction though.
if said retail corps are selling something other than fuel ,food or other necessities they may be in for a rude awakening eg; gm/ us auto makers and the airline companies.
i dont think gm (or most other hard good retailers )will be raising prices anytime soon scott…really.
BUT YOU ALMOST SCARED ME SCOTT!! JUST FOR A SECOND …GOOD TRY!! OH NO HIGHER RETAIL PRICES…ALL BECAUSE OF OBAMA!!!
BOO TO YOU TOO!!
lmao!!

John McCain was keynote speaker for ACORN and spoke of them highly. Turns out he was for Acorn before he was against them. What a flip flopper.
And Sarah Palin says her values are the same as the Alaska Independence Party in a video made over the summer. They want to become more independent from America and leave her altogether. How unpatriotic.

At that meeting ACORn was not the main group there. McCain was hter supporting another organization. He did not train them, give them money, worwk for them etc. OBAMA DID

“The only consistent thing here is this: All of the smears are coming from one place: McCain.”
The only “consistant thing” is that libs ignore legit citizens/media asking questions, blow them off and claim that the questioning comes directly from the opposing party. The questions about Khalidi have been asked in the past by concerned voters, long before McCain made it an issue. And, of course, how does McCain’s involvement excuse Obama’s? How do you think that sort of “two wrongs” argument makes those of us who are indys feel? We don’t count?

my wife is sick and I am typing with no light, get real.

Paint VA Blue
You sound just like another dreamer.
Racism nowadays is too often used as an excuse. We’re in 2008! Obama is about to be elected. Is America still a racist country? I don’t hink so.
So when someone says “Damn America”, he just does not belong to this country and he is anti-American. Clear and Simple.

True Ayers and Obama spent millions on those Charter Schools. Nothing good came out of it. A total bust.
Also Ayers is on board of education that got Obama in the literature book (15 pages worth) in Wisconsin and other states.

KHALIDI was amember of the PLO, which = TERRORIST

McCain did not give him money per say. An organization that McCain was a member of gave that grant to an organization that at the time they did not know KHALIDI was a member of.

Now you’re just making things up. The obama campaign hasn’t given Acorn any money though he did represent them in a case.
Hmm. funny… my father represents lots of murderers in court, is he a murderer too just for being a lawyer?
McCain likes Acorn and thinks they do a swell job. He knew ALL about these same problems back then but the republicans are just trying to divert attention away from all those corrupted diebold machines and the disenfranchising of mostly minority voters so they can’t cast a ballot. The repubs aren’t targeting white neighborhoods.. they target mostly black and hispanic with “caging” tactics.

Well it’s already started. Obama and his advisors already talking about killing the high expectations his supporters have of him. With the financial crisis, he will not be able to do all that he has promised. Give me a break. That is what everyone has been saying all along and now Obama finally admits it. This guy needs to take his family and hit the road. Good Bye!

You mean that the whole organization was a terrorist organization… both the one that Khalidi belonged to… and the organization that McCain chaired which funded Khalidi’s organization?
Because, I think this is the standard you are working with… guilt by association… right?

Would you haul around a bunch of idiots who were badmouthing you? NO! “Hi Mr Obama, can you give me a gottya quote?”

PAINT VA……If we are giving money to schools who promote science, reading and math then I am all for it, BUT it is clearly documented that this is NOT where the money went or what it went for.
HUGE DIFFERENCE!

Obama campaign gave over 800K to CCI a shell of ACORN same offices, same phoe numbers, same board.

PAINT VA……If we are giving money to schools who promote science, reading and math then I am all for it, BUT it is clearly documented that this is NOT where the money went or what it went for.
HUGE DIFFERENCE!
Posted by: UnPoliticallyCorrect2008 | Oct 31, 2008 2:51:35 PM
* Where did it go then?

BLIP…get the facts straight dear…McCain did not give Kahlidi the money, it went to an organization that was to HELP Palestinians become a democratic state/country, not to setup a government that hates Isreal!

Conf…
It is much fairer to let senior citizens enjoy tax free income under 50,000…
And then, if they have these giant portfolios and land holdings, to tax their estate after they die.
Sure, the trust fund brats might grumble, but it seems like the fairest way to treat people after retirement.

“Would you haul around a bunch of idiots who were badmouthing you? NO! “Hi Mr Obama, can you give me a gottya quote?”"
Of course not. I imagine you’d also want to disrespect average folks as well as launch background checks that violate the civil liberties of those who oppose you aka Joe the Plumber.

Of course not. I imagine you’d also want to disrespect average folks as well as launch background checks that violate the civil liberties of those who oppose you aka Joe the Plumber.
Posted by: Cliff | Oct 31, 2008 2:56:37 PM
** we don’t care about Joe the Plumber.. he doesn’t even pay the taxes he was asking about~ He’s not a hard working American either~> is he on welfare?

Better not speak against the “great one”.
This is “change you can believe in”.
Obama officails will be searching all databases to gather “dirt” on you.
You will need a passport just to visit DC.
Any and all protesters against Obama will go to jail.
Freedom of Speech will be gone.
MSNBC will be the only news networked allowed to broadcast ….
Wonder why gun sales are up 30-40%????

“Most states require ID to vote.”
Provisional and mail-in ballots do not always require IDs.
Ohio is going to be a mess this year.

Scott…
If you disapprove of both campaigns… which candidate do you think will benefit you the most? Which will be best for your neighbors? Which will be best for the country?
You should decide based on these considerations. And ignore the smears about Khalidi or Sarah Palin’s makeup.
Pick the candidate who is going to do the best job. Who has the best plan.
I’m voting for Obama, based on these questions. But if you decide to pick McCain, I won’t hold it against you.
(I will, however, hold it against you… if you vote because you heard that Obama doesn’t have a birth certificate or because you heard that Palin believes that dinosaurs and humans lived side by side. Those are pathetic and stupid reasons to pick a candidate).

Blip ,thats just it. that they would use those kinds of attacks and innuendo shows how careless and dangerous the republican are. i dont want that kind of loose cannon say-whatever-you-feel-like-just-for-effect attitude running my country ,not even for my dogcatcher.
no victory is not worth the damage the republicans have already done. intended or not, they are fanning flames that shouldve been left cold and nearly lifeless.
by projecting an air of acceptance ,and by not quickly and firmly condemning ,the republicans have given at least a wink and nod to patent and tacit haters/racist/fringe lunatics.
that kind of behavior is just not acceptable for any reason Blip , and even much less so in a presidential campaign.

provision is just that, provisional.. and they get checked and thrown out if necessary. if the address comes up to the local starbucks as most of these acorn registrations had fake addresses going to local businesses, it’ll get thrown out.
voter fraud is less likely than being struck by lightening.
but what is likely is the disenfranchising of thousands of minority voters in the u.s. these “caging” schemes are being used targeting mostly democrat or minority neighborhoods. of the people turned away at the polls in florida in 2000, 54% of them were black.
jeb bush had police on standby in these neighborhoods because he knew what he had done ahead of time.

Does anyone even understand the Iraq/Afghan war is a holy/oil war?
where are the weapons of mass destruction?
why are we spending 10 billion dollars a MONTH while Iraq enjoys a 40 billion dollar surplus?
* When the conservative party can answer these questions, then I will start listening to them. NO one who supports the GOP or McCain or Palin will ever answer these questions. Probably because they don’t have an answer. I’m not sure when America became this ‘converting Christian country’ but the basis America was founded on wasn’t even right. They stole the land from the Native Americans and never turned back. I love America but there are some messed up parts of it and I’ve concluded the messed up issue in the political scene is the Conservative party. They are corrupt and will tell anyone anything, if they vote for them. Haven’t we learned in 2000 and 2004? why must America even contemplate about going down the same dubious path?

PaintVA….you have got to be kidding me? Joe the Plumber is merely a figure that is to represent hard working blue collar people.
If Obama would not have revealed his true colors, this guy probably would have not mattered. But like Biden, they both speak the truth when they do not have a teleprompter in front of them.
Biden & Barack=Bunch-O-Puppets
Posted by: UnPoliticallyCorrect2008 | Oct 31, 2008 3:07:11 PM
* Then why doesn’t he pay taxes?

Blip Sorry I can not agree it is not fair to wipe out a whole tax base of tax paying seniors who can afford to contribute. Especially when senior age is 62 ,I believe that leaves alot of years for someone to not have to pay taxes and you Obama supporters are stupid if you do not see this. Going to be a long time before those trust babies get to inherit so I don’t think thats the issue. Also Obama plans on not raising taxes on SINGLES up to $200,000 and families up to $250,000. Hate to tell yo but that $50,000. difference between singles and families of 4+ isn’t fair either.Do you know how much more it costs to raise a family? And Obama campaigned on the theme of being for Middle Class Families. What a joke and so many people fell for it. I must admit he is smooth he slid that right in there under your noses.

I’ll admit… it’s a scary time for Republicans. I have many friends who work on GOP campaigns, in “safe” seats… and they are sweating bullets.
I told them their chickens would come home to roost if they didn’t get in control of their tactics.
But for so many years, groups like Club for Growth were basting them in cash, and with 9/11 and their percieved advantage on national security… they all told me it would never happen. They really thought they had a “permanent majority.” (Hence the corruption and ethical lapses that have crept into the GOP).
Now, some of them have started endorsing Democratic candidates in their districts… and those who haven’t are flirting with the idea.
Fortunately, a few of them are seriously talking about reform. But we’ll see if they get anywhere. Most of these people threw their support behind Ron Paul… and have been pushed out of influence.

Hey Blip seriously I like Ron Paul.. he speaks some truths the American people need to hear

also joe the plumber did not seek obaman out. Obama came to him and had a slip of the tongue. Which will cost him the election IMHO.
Also his 2001 radio address in Chicago, made it worse and turned most of the ind to McCAIN.

Ayers received 50 mill from annenburg. He did not write in his grant the real reason for the money, he is not an idiot, even though he is a terrorist.
Ayers then started the Annenburg Chicago Challenge. Spreading his rhetoric to teachers, students etc.
Also annenburg could not take the money back once it was given.

Michael….seriously? So this whole fiasco is ALL Bush’s fault and the democrats had nothing to do with it huh?
Wow…..He sure did a lot in the past two years without Congress’ approval, huh? LMAO…….The last less than two years this country has gone down the toilet and you blame Bush for all of this issues.
I tell you what, I give you Bush and will raise you a Pelosi, Frank, Dodd, Reid Schummer, etc…etc…etc…
Posted by: UnPoliticallyCorrect2008 | Oct 31, 2008 3:13:18 PM
Ha ha we didn’t want Bush ever! But people like you voted him into office.. I’ll take Reid Pelosi Frank and Obama anyday over Bush McCain Spector and Palin..
remember only two of these people have been found guilty of corruption.. and its not the dems!
You seem smart.. wonder why you are so foolish?

hey Scott raise em up high but dont complain when your sales/profits go down ok?
keep firing people too ,thats a good response. it only works for so long though..
lately , there was a local retail store near me that tried that. he kept raising his prices ,and laying off employees to keep his profits high while everyone elses prices were staying about the same .he never would pay for sufficient employees so the shelves were often understocked ,dirty etc…
guess what? hes gone now ,who knows where. and theres a new place where his business was,looking good with lots of decently paid employees…and the other businesses are still just barely hanging on ,but they are hanging on…but they DO KNOW better than to raise prices on ANYTHING except food or gas…nobody is buying anything much except the necessities.
wake up Scott or youll be without a business if you arent careful.

Bush has no say on how bailout is spent. Stupid democrats gave full power to the treasurey secretary

Bush has no say on how bailout is spent. Stupid democrats gave full power to the treasurey secretary
Posted by: John | Oct 31, 2008 3:21:04 PM
** WHY WOULD WE GIVE PRESIDENT BUSH CONTROL OF 750 BILLION DOLLARS? ARE YOU STUPID TOO? THAT WOULD BE STUPID OF AMERICA TO LET A DUMMY LIKE HIM HAVE FULL CONTROL OF AMERICA’S MONEY! WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN FOR THE PAST 8 YEARS? IRELAND? CANADA? MEXICO?

John, where are you getting this? Most people agree with the graduated income tax. It was started by Teddy Roosevelt, McCain’s role model. McCain himself supports it.
* Whats even worse is he VOTED AGAINST THE PRESIDENT BUSH TAX CUTS.. now he supports them. He knew back then what America knows now– it doesn’t work!
wanna know why he switched his position? Because that was the only way he could win the nomination of his party~> Traitor!

Scott, I totally sympathize with where you are coming from.
But in relative terms, Obama has worked hard to keep the campaign focused on issues. Even his attack ads are usually based around some policy difference he has with McCain. Not always, but usually.
But having said all that… in the end… the election is about what we need as a country.
And while Obama is not my first choice as a candidate, in pragmatic terms, he is a lot better than his opponent. Health care needs to be fixed. Students need more support for tuition. And we need a foreign policy which is more creative than it is aggressive.
It might not work for you, but it does for me. And for that reason, I’ll admit I cut Obama some slack.
He needs to win. Not because I am a Democrat (because I have never voted for a Democratic candidate in my life). Not because he is “the one”. But just because he would make things better than they are now.
Sure, it sucks to hear the candidates attack each other. But they are both in this campaign. They are both doing it. And at the end of the day, what matters most is that the best one win.

Blip These wealthy seniors will not have to pay taxes if there income is $50,000. and this could be dividend income from a multimillion dollar portfolio.Obamas website Quote “Eliminating Income taxes for seniors making less than $50,000. etc.this will mean 27 million seniors will not need to file an income tax return at all” Now how a stock porfolio works is if you get dividend income yes it is taxed you need to report that as income BUT you do not need to report what your stocks are or what they are worth. So many seniors may be getting the bulk of their income from dividends and they will not even have to file taxes at all. Yet they could be sitting on millions of dollars. Now I do not see where this is a responsible proposal of Obamas .It was put out there for the wealthy senior/retirees votes and it is unfortunately it is working. But don’t tell me he is for the middle class. His one and only concern is winning and himself and this proposal proves it.

Conf….
But if you compare Obama’s plans for seniors with McCain’s plans for the estate tax…
Obama’s would generate more revenue.
And, I would argue that the estate tax is the most “just” of the possible taxes.

ok listen i have the real story …..
McCain is a old and weak and we all know that. We know that on Nov. 4th that is going to be a big day for him. A BIG DAY FOR HIM TO LOSE!!!!

Bottom line in this election comes down to the following.
SECURITY OF OUR NATION
Obama has a very bad record of hanging out with past and current TERRORIST, RADICALS, SOCIALST, FELONS, AND MARXIST.
Without security we have NOTHING
No economy ect.

Blip Regarding college tuitions Obama wants to give a $4,000.00 tax credit for college tuitions. Well under the present tax plan a parent can deduct up to $10,000. towards acollege tuition if they paid for their childs tuition. As a family of 4 soon to be 5 and if you have not voted yet may I suggest you go to Obamas sight and really look over his tax plans. It is not for the middle class FAMILIES.

What does Yellowcake uranium have to do with anything on this thread?
Are people still afraid that Iraq is going to nuke us?
We already invaded them… and didn’t find anything… and we are still there. If we invaded Iraq again, we would be fighting our own troops! Or is someone saying we need to get Canada?
Bizarre. That’s what Rush Limbaugh will do to you… makes you crazy.

hey conf###: I think it’s funny that we’re nailing down specifics on obama’s tax plan that hasn’t been finalized. he’s definitely laid out the ground work but i don’t see final specifics from either campaign. These things are works in progress and i hardly believe that my millionaire parents who make less than 50,000 now that they are retired, will be paying less tax than me. Obama wishes to close loopholes that allow rich people out of taxes and he certainly wouldn’t let this one slide.

“Scott, I totally sympathize with where you are coming from.”
Blip:
Guess I lied…Still here. Just had to hang to see a response.
At least you’re honest about it. But I suspect that there are more of us on common ground than there are those on both of the extreme ends. Wouldn’t know it the way the media has covered this election season. Pretty lame.
Either way, I doubt that either candidate will harm the country, but doubt either will do much good. Sorry, but I have far too many bad memories from the Carter years.
And now I must depart and get to biz. (But I’ll probably take a quick look later.)
Make it a great one.
Scott

Blip I am sorry to tell you but there are many senior millionaires and many are in Florida where Obama has lured them in with his tax plan. May I remind you I think the senior age is 62 plus.

jn— ya need those little whirley things– you know– those centrifuges
just a minor step to enrich, Unlike Bushy, who only needs his hand in our pocket

I hate to use the “S” word, but the American government would never do something as, well, socialist as seize private pension funds, right? This is exactly what cash-strapped Argentina just did in the name of protecting workers’ retirement accounts (Efharisto, Fausta’s Blog). Now, even Uncle Sam isn’t that stupid, but some Democrats might try something almost as loopy: kill 401(k) plans.
House Democrats recently invited Teresa Ghilarducci, a professor at the New School of Social Research, to testify before a subcommittee on her idea to eliminate the preferential tax treatment of the popular retirement plans. In place of 401(k) plans, she would have workers transfer their dough into government-created “guaranteed retirement accounts” for every worker. The government would deposit $600 (inflation indexed) every year into the GRAs. Each worker would also have to save 5 percent of pay into the accounts, to which the government would pay a measly 3 percent return. Rep. Jim McDermott, a Democrat from Washington and chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee’s Subcommittee on Income Security and Family Support, said that since “the savings rate isn’t going up for the investment of $80 billion [in 401(k) tax breaks], we have to start to think about whether or not we want to continue to invest that $80 billion for a policy that’s not generating what we now say it should.”

Paint VA Blue!: Whats should be what’s and wanna is not a word try using “you want to”

john– focus– repete after me Colin Powell–as an aside– did you know Powell advised BOTH Bushys not to engauge Iraq?

Sarah Palin fires every single person that doesn’t think like her back in her home state of Alaska. She especially hates smart people that went to good colleges especially. As you can see, she really hates college professors. She has a serious inferiority complex. She hired all her friends from her high school basketball team to do jobs they were unqualified to do back in Alaska.
How scary that she could be in the white house.

Yellowcake can also be used to scare people into invading countries that.
More recently, radicals, using words like Yellowcake and Uranium have tried to sway political elections in countries like the United States.
Yellowcake is very dangerous stuff.

To that I say, not so fast Mr Powell, the time to come clean has long passed. In fact, the window of truth-telling time for you ended when the first US soldier was killed in Iraq.
This admission proves that Colin knew the truth and could have stopped the freight train long before it made it to Iraq.
Picture this. The day before Congress is to vote on the resolution, Colin Powell, the only Bush administration official with any hands-on experience with war, schedules a public news conference on all the major television networks, and says:
“Saddam does not pose an imminent threat, I do not believe we need to go to war in Iraq, and I am quitting my job today because the administration is about to engage us in a war I cannot support.”
Think about that for a minute. And then think about how many members of Congress would have voted differently if Colin Powell had stepped up to the plate.

GIVE FOX THE BOOT!!! NO MORE LIES!!!
So called facts are fraud
They want us to allege and pledge
And bow down to their God
Lost the culture, the culture lost
Spun our minds and through time
Ignorance has taken over
Yo, we gotta take the power back!
Bam! Here’s the plan
MF Uncle Sam
Step back, I know who I am
Raise up your ear, I’ll drop the style and clear
It’s the beats and the lyrics they fear
The rage is relentless
We need a movement with a quickness
You are the witness of change
And to counteract
We gotta take the power back
Btw why is it freedom fighting to spend $10 Billion a month in Iraq, but Socialism to help Americans…Who are the real America haters in this race???

Here is my response to those businesses threatening to pass on higher taxes to the customers and laying off employees to maintain their profits.
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Dear Business owner,
 I am your competition down the road and will be taking on the employees that you no longer need.  I have seen a increase in my clients because I have chosen to not raise my prices and I need additional people with all the new work.  Some of these new clients used to be parked in front of your location.  A lot of clients have better jobs now and also have much higher spending power due to the reduced taxes .   I really appreciate your older Bush league business practices and hope that you continue with your policies.  I wish you the best under our new Obama administration and Democrat run government.  By the way, I paid a lot less taxes recently as my profits were under the $250,000.   But, of course, if profits do go above that mark, I will be glad to pay the extra 3% as it will be useful for the new health programs for my employees, help pay off the HUGE debt brought to us by the Bush administration, and help create more business opportunities for me with the new Green technologies.  I am also going to be using some of that new Green technology to lower my business expenses. Buy this new technology will help the economy because of my demand for it and create even more jobs in that sector and then again provide more customers for my products who can now afford to my product and my lower prices from you.   Again good luck with your business.  I hope you will be OK with those older Reaganomics business practices that McCain was promising to uphold for you. They never did work, did they. Trickle-down economics proved impossible to achieve just like communism in its day. Very Respectfully, Your competition.

John, in my country, the United States of America, we also have state-backed retirement accounts. We refer to it as “Social Security.” While it is not without its problems, we have had a very long and successful history with this program.
Many in my country view the father of these programs, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, as an important figure, who led us out of one economic depression and to victory in WWII on two fronts. He built Social Security which has saved generations of seniors from poverty.
Roosevelt and Social Security have their detractors. Primarily among militant anti-government factions, affiliated with the “Grand Old Party” (also called the Republicans), Roosevelt and his legacy are reviled as “socialist” and “communist,” however these voices are found primarily on the fringes of the American cultural landscape.
Maybe these types of savings accounts won’t work in your country. But they are great in ours.

No Michael…
Ask anyone. A tax credit is a better deal than a tax deduction.
Especially if you are talking about the middle class.

I’m sorry… I didn’t realize you were an American. You were talking about a program we have here… social security… as if it was some new plan hatched by the socialists in Argentina.
Sorry for the confusion.
But Social Security rocks the party out! Ask your grandpa about it.

(And by the way… When you retire… you will be able to get back the money that you put in… unless of course some paranoid anti-communist crank dismantles it.)

I was talking about the government taking over 401K accounts and merging with SS. THAT IS NOT RIGHT

No President will go to war without the backing of Congress. That is Political suicide.
Powell could have stopped it.
But he did not. A sad case of a man, who let his integrity go down for politics.

No not getting caught in cross fire.
If intelligence said it was there FINE we needed to act.
But if Powell knew it was wrong he should of said something at the start.

I agree… Powell should have opposed the war in Iraq from the beginning.
But, look at the times, there were so few Obamas and so many McCains.
99% of the press coverage back then was pro-war. Most citizens were. And the president and congress were, too.
It was a time of mass stupidity. So devastating that we are still trying to cope with the aftereffects. It will be years before we are done paying for the stupidity of the Iraq War.
But, I suppose, you might as well blame Powell. No sense in holding anyone else accountable, I suppose.

john– a different story about what?

John, I don’t suppose you know about the VP’s office and their direct role in the forgery of intel to get us into Iraq. If we must suspend all judgment and defer to intel, then it is a pretty serious crime for someone to manipulate that intelligence. You should take a very close look at how the intelligence was finessed to lead us into Iraq. It’s not a simple case. Most people have Valerie Plame and Joe Wilson, but I think if we are going to place such a priority on intelligence, rather than presidential judgment…. it is morally imperative that you examine the Plame/Wilson case, Chalabi’s role, Douglas Feith’s office, and the Italian forgeries. There is clear evidence of a concerted effort to manipulate our intelligence and force us into war. If the intelligence is the key factor, whoever botched that intelligence should be held accountable.

NO POWEL SHOULD NOT HAVE OPPOSED THE WAR
IN PUBLIC HE TRIED TO STOP IT. WHAT IF Gen PETRAIS HAD OF OPPOSED THE WAR IN PUBLIC? THE SEC OF STATE MUST FOLLOW THE PRES LEAD!!!!!!!!!

i agree barak obama needs to make room for other reporters.especially the news paper reporters who endorsed him and its also fair he let fox news and a few others who didn’t endorse him stay on board as well.i just wander if john mccain has some of barak’s news reporters who endorsed him on they’re plane because if not then its not fair for barak to have reporters who support mccain on his plane if this is the case than they should be kicked off the plane and only the reporters who are impartial could remain on the plane.because john mccain repoters could be only fishing for something negative to report about barak obama.

Blip I’ve got to go ,nice talking with you . One more question where is Obama going to get the money to give back a $4,000. credit for the college? He’s not going to tax the wealthy seniors he’s not going to tax the singles making up to $200,000 a year and when he tries to put it all the burden on small and big businesses and the big businesse move out for good and the small businesses don’t have anyone to work for or sell to then who is going to cover the less needy? The middle class? Well we won’t have to much left to give with the rise in the cost of living and the high cost of everytnig because Obama chased and taxed all the competition away. But GE will get all the government business and will have earned it with the NBC campaigning they have done for Obama. Lets see GE is big in wind towers do you think this may be why they are pushing Obama? This way they can get some business out of it all? That is if Obama actually wins.

John, Powel was fooled by the Bush and Cheney neo-cons just like everyone else. You fail to understand the full aspect of you accusation. And, it is the “Commander -in-Chief’s” responsibility to know the facts before everyone else. Do you really believe that Powell made up these facts to fool Bush or, God forbid, Bush and company made up these facts to most of everyone else? Now isn’t that and interesting thought. And, as I remember, McCain voted to go to war in Iraq, and Obama vote not to. That, to me, as an even more important fact to take into account during this election. With all of our hind-site, someone, Obama, actually kept his head about the Iraq war question. McCain fell right into line with the rest of them. Put some thought into that for a while.

john you are being short sighted I told you Powell said to bushy “no”=== so=== what was his motivation? where was his
profit? Powel did what he was told to do
why do you think hew quit?

For the second time in a week, a prominent Democrat has downgraded Barack Obama’s definition of the middle class — leading Republicans to question whether he’ll stick to his promise not to raise taxes on anyone making under $250,000.
The latest hiccup in the campaign message came Friday morning on KOA-AM, when New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson pegged the middle class as those making $120,000 and under.

Obama came out today and pretty much said dont expect me to do all the stuff I said I would do .

Barack Obama’s senior advisers have drawn up plans to lower expectations for his presidency if he wins next week’s election, amid concerns that many of his euphoric supporters are harboring unrealistic hopes of what he can achieve.
The sudden financial crisis and the prospect of a deep and painful recession have increased the urgency inside the Obama team to bring people down to earth, after a campaign in which his soaring rhetoric and promises of “hope” and “change” are now confronted with the reality of a stricken economy.

In an interview with a Colorado radio station, Obama appeared to be engaged already in expectation lowering. Asked about his goals for the first hundred days, he said he would need more time to tackle such big and costly issues as health care reform, global warming and Iraq.
“The first hundred days is going to be important, but it’s probably going to be the first thousand days that makes the difference,” he said. He has also been reminding crowds in recent days how “hard” it will be to achieve his goals, and that it will take time.
“I won’t stand here and pretend that any of this will be easy — especially now,” Obama told a rally in Sarasota, Florida, yesterday, citing “the cost of this economic crisis, and the cost of the war in Iraq.” Obama’s transition team is headed by John Podesta, a Washington veteran and a former chief-of-staff to Bill Clinton. He has spent months overseeing a virtual Democratic government-in-exile to plan a smooth transition should Obama emerge victorious next week.

Personally I would like to thank Senator Obama, for the way he has handle himself and his campaign, he had really cause me to relook at my attitude about life and my approach to it, because of the way he has handle himself under fire, there have been a lot of situation where I felt my character was unjustly attack, but my approach to it was by way of angry and firing back injust, so again Senator Obama I want to thank you.

Seems to me he is now claiming the opposite of what he has said for the last 2 years.
It will not be easy.
I can not do all I promised.
Socialist PIG = OBAMA

* But you know hating is hard work
When Obama will bounce back
It’s God’s work people
You can’t change God’s work~

Paint VA blue–The Dems have given Leiberman a very hard time since Lieberman quit their party and became Independent. The Liberals have hijacked the Democratic party, it is no longer the great party that it was.

Paint VA blue–which God are you taling about? The one 80% of Americans worship or Obama’s? I saw a video of Obama dated a few yrs back and Obama is talking about Christianity as if it were not his religion and making fun of the bible.
Very eye opening stuff, you should look it up and check it out yourself. It’s straight from Obama’s mouth.

S Adams
As liberals, we do not “embrace” or “reject” a person as a human being, based on single things they did that we may or may not like. Everyone deserves respect, and our attitude toward someone changes as good or bad things accumulate. I have never forgiven Powell for his actions at the U.N., but that doesn’t mean I can’t still give him the respect he earns on other issues.

dlboggan | Oct 31, 2008 4:43:34 PM: You get your news from Ed Schultz and MSNBC and you consider them fair and balanced? Don’t worry about it because as of Wednesday you will have a great American Hero as President John S McCain. Not an Anti-American Socialist in Barak H. Obama! But if by chance BHO does win hold on to your wallets because he will take you money and pay back all of his Radical, terrorist buddies who bank rolled his campaign! McCain/Palin 08! America First!

Posted by: S Adams | Oct 31, 2008 4:50:22 PM
* Plus its not a LAW to be a Christian in America!
Freedom of Religion–we’re guaranteed it! So you can’t tell anyone what to say or do or believe when it comes to God.. it’s not your job! It’s not the RNC’s job! America is LAND OF THE FREE HOME OF THE BRAVE
Not home of ANYONE WHO BELIEVES IN GOD.. we owe some respect to the people who don’t believe in God and their ideals too!

S Adams and John: General Powell has been a long-time favorite for all parties ever since the first Iraq war. Neither of you, nor I were in those offices when Bush pushed this country into the war in Iraq. Who really knows how we all were fooled. I am of course prejudiced to my belief that Bush and Cheney colluded to make the war happen at all costs. For either of you to call Powell as the sole culprit for this war is ludicrous at best and naïve at the least. If Powell had come out in support of McCain, I doubt very much, that you would be speaking of him in these terms right now. In fact, you would most likely be giving him great praise. Powell could easily have been left out on a great deal of the information and their sources. Many of us wanted to be able to believe what Bush and company was telling us at that time. Even me, I admit. Why would Powell not be the exception. Do note that Powell did resign because of the incident and has shown great regret for how he had not known more then he did. Do not make me believe that you could have done any better in his place, with or without his previous experience. I have always liked Powell and still do no matter which candidate he would have supported. But, lucky us, he did support Obama, with great good cause.

>>Paint VA Blue! | Oct 31, 2008 4:45:43 PM:
G-D has NOTHING to do with B I’s bounce…but should it stop in the “down” position, oh well……
c’est la vie… and all that jazz….

B O’s position

bah | Oct 31, 2008 5:11:55 PM
Boy, are YOU in for a disappointment.
Should he win, B O’s promises will trickle down to be but a dribble in the wind.
And even if McCain should win, the tax picture would need a magic brush to make it look palatable…..

bah–Well how do you know if you are getting a tax cut??? Do you make $42,000 (Obama voted 94 times to increase taxes for this amount and over), or do you make $120,000 (this is a new figure just thrown out by Richardson), or do you make $150,000(Biden’s new figure), or $200,000( Obama on Oct 27), or $250,000 (Obama on July 8). Too many numbers, I don;t think anyone knows what the real number is, the important thing is to just tell people what they want to hear so they will elect you, then do what you originally planned to do in the first place, raise taxes on income $42,000 +
BTW–You are paying taxes on Apr 15, for the year 2008!!, You will have to wait for next year to see the tax cut John McCain gives you.

The travel cost of this plane is paid for by the contributions of millions of Obama supporters!
I have donated $80, and I sure don’t want MY MONEY to be spent on giving free food and rides to newspapers that support McCain!
Why would I want to do that?!?
I would NOT expect McCain supporters’ money to be paid for newspapers supporting Obama either!

S Adams: Obama’s tax plans are posted out there for all to see. It should not be that hard for anyone to check it out, even you. Your supposed act of confusion does not jive with how well you claim to know your facts about everything else. Stop trying to be so transparent.

Why is Obama afraid to have journalists on his plane that don’t support him? That is such a joke. And oh, the excuses they come up with. LOL If you believe that one, I have land to sell you…!…

Msa123: You did not read this article very well, did you. There is nothing unfamiliar or uncommon with all of the candidates over the past several elections. He has done nothing new here. I would have done “exactly” the same and so would you. Don’t try to tell us you would not have and don’t think you can make your justifications any better then Obama’s. It won’t work and will only show your ignorance further.

e pluribus union: You have posted this same post on several other sites and it has gotten you no where. Nothing you state within our post have any facts to back them up. Again, like a few others out here, Most of your statements seemed to be pure speculation and outright theory coming from no other sources but yourself. Saying that something is something does not necessarily make it true. Please, for future reference, provide your statements with qualified supporting information from multiple non-biased reliable sources. Don’t pull words out of context to turn something into something it is not. And if I hear complaints that this was the media’s job than do your best to do what the media has failed to do according to you. I.E. practice what you preach. If you can start doing this, than, and may than, some of us out here might start taking you seriously, maybe.

Posted by: dlboggan | Oct 31, 2008 5:49:24 PM
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Then why is Obama saying different from what his website states?

Posted by: Bryan T | Oct 31, 2008 5:59:24 PM
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I have seen it, that’s why I want to know why he and his associates are throwing out different numbers. And why, if he is so stringent on the $250,000 and under income tax cuts to middle class, he voted 94 times to raise taxes on $42,000 and up.

Posted by: msa123 | Oct 31, 2008 6:07:31 PM
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Can’t argue with the truth. I’ve already voted for McCain (voted for Hillary for primary’s). I would have more respect for McCain is he had not signed on to the bogus $700 billion bail out that the radical liberals, Pelosi, Reid and Dodd were pushing.

“Can’t argue with the truth. I’ve already voted for McCain (voted for Hillary for primary’s). I would have more respect for McCain is he had not signed on to the bogus $700 billion bail out that the radical liberals, Pelosi, Reid and Dodd were pushing”
Hillary Clinton was the 16th most liberal Senator this year, scoring more liberal than Dodd and right behind Reid.
Hillary Clinton also proposed a major bailout earlier this year.
But someone who claims to hate the bailout and radical liberals states they supported Hillary the primaries.
The lesson as always? Right wingers lie.

The fact is Ryan C, I did vote for Hillary in the primaries.

“You are either with us, or you’re against us.” Does that sound familiar? Well, it should because it was Bush when he was talking about other countries getting involved in the War on Terrorism. However, this time around we will, god forbid, have a man that will eject the press if you don’t say what he wants you to say. How democratic can that be? We have already seen the way Obama plays ball. If you question his tax proposals you are either blacklisted(Orlando newstation) or all your personal information will be leaked to the media for public scrutiny(Joe the Plumber). Is this the direction we are saying we would like to go? Our forefathers risked all to be able to afford certain liberties, like free speech, to every individual. And this is the way we pay them back. How kind of us! They most be so proud! I am also entertained with the notion that these publishments were kicked off the plane to make room for press that could reach swing voters. Yet, these newspapers were replaced with Essence and Jet magazine reporters. Yeah, I’ll bet they are going to change opinions among their readers. I swear I sometimes feel like I am living in a Alice in Wonderland, where what appears to be true isn’t, and where we run from one repressive tyrant from the right, to his equivalent on the left.
P.S., to all the responders who keep saying that they do not want their hard-earned contribution dollars being used to cart these opposing journalists around…get a clue. These newspapers have to pay for their seat aboard the plane.

bah
Out of couriosity alone, how old are you.

S Adams: You can attempt to get into the lies argument all you want. All the of the hype being put up out their has been debunked before and it can be done again. Must I apply to you the same verbiage that I have applied to others about their posts? Ok, I will: Most of your statements seemed to be pure speculation and outright theory coming from no other sources but yourself. Saying that something is something does not necessarily make it true. Please, for future reference, provide your statements with qualified supporting information from multiple non-biased reliable sources. Don’t pull words out of context to turn something into something it is not. And if I hear complaints that this was the media’s job than do your best to do what the media has failed to do according to you. I.E. practice what you preach. If you can start doing this, than, and may than, some of us out here might start taking you seriously, maybe.

Since Fox News and Wall Street Journal still have newsmen on board there is no need to explain. These two are definitely right wing. Absolutely so!! Yes, I feel their endorsement of McCain played a part, but this is just way it goes and new crew realized the dangers when their bosses endorsed McCain. Just have to roll with the punches. Adding home town news is special.
Since no second plane – no big deal. McCain did same thing. Someone had to go unfortunately. Since they rolled dice and took stance – bye-bye. You play, you accept.

Ryan C Then why is he proposing this sweetheart of a total pass on seniors paying any taxes with these nice stock portfolios. It is to get senior votes and it is working. And as I said before he really does not care about the middle class. Obama cares for Obama and winning. Who do you think is going to make up for this total tax base of wealthy seniors Obama is planning to eliminate Income taxes for? Go to his sight and read it it is right there. He is a fraud and has said whatever he has to to get votes. I would type the quote for you but I am getting tired of doing that for the Obama supporters who don’t even know what his plans are. By the way in some states $250,000 a year income isn’t even considered rich for a family of 4-5 once you account for clothing, food, insurance,dental,cars for teens and insuring teens and then college. And singles can earn up to 200,000. that 50,000 diferrence he allows families doesn’t cover much. It just gained senior and single votes and the theme of middle class families is a con. It is Obama who is out of touch with reality.

Questioner: My goodness angry one. No one here as said you were not intellectual and no one here has said you were racist. You’re the only one that has brought that up. No one here questioned McCain’s, or Bush ivy league schooling but you. Saying that we made inappropriate statements about you does not mean we did. This only came from you head and no one else’s. I would suggest that this is a poor means of baiting those in debate with you. Starting something out of nothing. And by the way, Obama’s records are a matter of public record. All you have to do is do the research to discover them for yourself. Start at his official web site and then go from there to double check it to confirm the authenticity. Simple but affective.

Posted by: dlboggan | Oct 31, 2008 6:49:11 PM
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Oh please, I’ve read from your posts have been your opinions. I haven’t seen any proof of what you have said is true, other than to sight Barack Hussein Obama’s website.

Alas, I must go. My kids insist on celebrating Halloween, which I’m sure was invented by liberals.
Knock, Knock, Trick or treat, give me something good for free.

Ryan C, your attempts at logic would be comical if I didn’t feel that you were completely serious. You called the person who said s/he voted for Hillary in the primaries and McCain in the general a liar. Don’t be silly. I did not have the opportunity to vote for Hillary in the primaries but I did contribute money to her campaign. And you know I’m going to vote for McCain on Tuesday.

A Veteran: If you have “real” backed up proof from multiple reliable unbiased sources than please do provide that information. Make sure that you can also support your interpretation of that information, even if it’s from Obama himself or from any other source. You have the right to put your interpretation forth and the rest of us have the right to agree or disagree on our the merits and with our own interpretations. That is true democracy at it’s best. Good luck!

The Historical Lessons of Lower Tax Rates
by Daniel J. Mitchell, Ph.D.
WebMemo #327
There is a distinct pattern throughout American history: When tax rates are reduced, the economy’s growth rate improves and living standards increase. Good tax policy has a number of interesting side effects. For instance, history tells us that tax revenues grow and “rich” taxpayers pay more tax when marginal tax rates are slashed. This means lower income citizens bear a lower share of the tax burden – a consequence that should lead class-warfare politicians to support lower tax rates.
Conversely, periods of higher tax rates are associated with sub par economic performance and stagnant tax revenues. In other words, when politicians attempt to “soak the rich,” the rest of us take a bath. Examining the three major United States episodes of tax rate reductions can prove useful lessons.

dlboggan
And denied a debate with Fox moderators.

bah
Like I said, no comment on Obama Oldinga. No comment on Clinton backing on the decision for war. NO comment on Clinton intelligence on Iraq. I hope you are man enough to be able to admit you were wrong when the truth shows itself after he is elected. I have always paid taxes. I can ride out the next 4 – 12 years since I worked for and own everything I have. Did it on less than 50,000 for the total household income.

>>>moderate | Oct 31, 2008 7:11:40 PM
EXACTLY!
And all this information has been requested before!
Why all this secrecy about the man they want to lead our beloved country?
WHAT ARE THEY HIDING?????
WE NEED TO KNOW!

For those “bleeding hearts” who argue how letting Bush tax rate reduction for the few will have bad effect on our economy and all the people who will have lower taxes under Obama, could I point out that instead of referencing academic studies of dubious quality by economist of dubious intellectual ability and easy recognized ideology, one need just look at economy in Clinton years, with exactly the tax rate Obama proposes, with the state of today’s economy, which presumably benefited all by benefiting from the Bush-McCain’s tax break for the rich.
By the way, I wish 250K is adjusted for cost of living, as in New York this is not rich by any means, however, I have to see somebody who will pack his things and go fishing because he can’t keep 4.6% of the money he earns above 250K.

Here is my response to those businesses threatening to pass on higher taxes to the customers and laying off employees to maintain their profits.
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Dear Business owner,
 I am your competition down the road and will be taking on the employees that you no longer need.  I have seen a increase in my clients because I have chosen to not raise my prices and I need additional people with all the new work.  Some of these new clients used to be parked in front of your location.  A lot of clients have better jobs now and also have much higher spending power due to the reduced taxes .   I really appreciate your older Bush league business practices and hope that you continue with your policies.  I wish you the best under our new Obama administration and Democrat run government.  By the way, I paid a lot less taxes recently as my profits were under the $250,000.   But, of course, if profits do go above that mark, I will be glad to pay the extra 3% as it will be useful for the new health programs for my employees, help pay off the HUGE debt brought to us by the Bush administration, and help create more business opportunities for me with the new Green technologies.  I am also going to be using some of that new Green technology to lower my business expenses. Buying this new technology will help the economy because of my demand for it and create even more jobs in that sector and then again provide more customers for my products who can now afford to buy my products at my lower prices compared to your higher prices.   Again good luck with your business.  I hope you will be OK with those older Reaganomics business practices that McCain was promising to uphold for you. They never did work, did they. Trickle-down economics proved impossible to achieve just like communism in its day. Very Respectfully, Your competition.

dlbloggan, you have been studying at the feet of the master, Sen. Obama, haven’t you? You get your punches in down the page, claiming McCain is an puppet with a temper, parroting Obama/Biden’s tiresome suggestions that McCain is a clone of Bush, etc. You speak derisively of other posters, suggesting that anyone who disagrees with your point of view has been brainwashed by a cabal of Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, and some nut named Savage. All the while you purr that you are being, by contrast, reasonable, rational, and enlightened. Heaven forfend that someone accuse you of being a creature of Daily Kos, MSNBC, and Air America. (And, no, I am not making that accusation in a backhanded way. I do not think you get your marching orders from them, but I would appreciate you giving the same benefit of the doubt to good posters like A Veteran and S Adams on the other side of the political spectrum.) Then you top off the evening with a hearts-and-flowers call to unity and peace and love, which you tell us only Obama can bring about. Sorry, I’m not buying what you are peddling. SOmetimes you make well-reasoned arguments, sometimes you just accuse others of not having their facts straight or of mistaking opinion for fact, even though you do the same thing on a regular basis. You want to come across as above it all, too refined to lower yourself to the level of the uncouth philistines who do not share your views– a nifty piece of jujitsu that is really merely an elevated form of PeeWee Hermanesque “I know you are but what am I?”
Oh, and for the record, I don’t listen to talk radio. I get my news from a variety of sources including CSPAN, CNN, Wall Street Journal, 2 local newspapers, Time, Newsweek, US News and World Report, and, yes, Fox News. BTW, Fox News has two distinct parts, as does CNN and MSNBC. There are the straight newscasts, which I find as “fair and balanced” as anything on television, anad then there are the opinion shows, which are anything but balanced, but make no pretense of being. O’Reilly is an opinion show, just like Hardball or Lou Dobbs or any other. It’s like the distinction between the editorial page and the reporting on most newspapers.

Moderate: As one moderate to another, we call them where we see them and I don’t see that much difference between what you point your finger at me with VS what you yourself seem to have replicated in such a wonderful fashion. I commend you for your attempt to tackle someone not unlike yourself other than that we sit on the opposite sides of the fence. I am pleased that you took the time to read my posts and I try to read yours too. It is too bad that my hearts-and-flowers post is not something you seem to agree with on it’s merits alone. And, it is your choice, as it is for all Americans to agree or disagree with others. I am not a reporter or journalist by trade and I assume you are not either but am terribly interested in this election because of how important it is for this country to get off in the ride direction with the right leadership for the coming times. Brash statements of untruths and fabricated distortions do not hold well with me and I will call for facts and proof that they be backed up and then discussed on the merits of the interpretations of that information. It is not and should not be any different than what yourself should hold to. I am not a perfect debater and make my mistakes or am not aware of all new information that can occur even upon the hour. But, I will do my best to decipher that which I do encounter. I will not float down to your level and attempt to compare you negatively but give you the benefit of the doubt until I see that you are purposely or destructively harming our rights to be the Americans that we all need to be here. Respect needs to be earned but than abuse of the respect given is worse. Give both of our candidates the respect they deserve and stick to the real issues at hand. I sincerely believe that if McCain had followed that trail, he would be much closer to Obama then he is at this time.

Obama seems to have a very bad temper.. he gets annoyed very easily. Funny when you look close at Obama you tend to see a facade.. a lie. He acts so cool and even tempered but unfortunately it’s just that.. an act. Just read an article about him getting angry at reporters in Chicago following him around. Reminds me of a dr. jekyll and mr. hyde.

they said Essence & Jet magazine were getting spots on the plane instead of ‘real reporters’. What’s up with that? They’re monthly magazines not real reporters from daily papers!? the more we hear about the Obama thugs & his arrogant campaign, it makes me sick!

So you think Fox news has real reporters

Rev. Ike:
If we have Obama’s socialism we will all have depression. Clinical Depression!