Conservatives Embarrassed About Palin (A Continuing Series)
"The thought of Sarah Palin as president gives me acid reflux," Chris Buckley tells the New York Times. He said his father, the late conservative icon William F. Buckley, "would have been appalled."
Writes Peggy Noonan, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin "is a person of great ambition, but the question remains: What is the purpose of the ambition? She wants to rise, but what for? … She doesn’t think aloud. She just … says things. … She does not speak seriously but attempts to excite sensation …
"In the past two weeks she has spent her time throwing out tinny lines to crowds she doesn’t, really, understand. This is not a leader, this is a follower, and she follows what she imagines is the base, which is, in fact, a vast and broken-hearted thing whose pain she cannot, actually, imagine. She could reinspire and reinspirit; she chooses merely to excite. She doesn’t seem to understand the implications of her own thoughts …
"In the end, the Palin candidacy is a symptom and expression of a new vulgarization in American politics. It’s no good, not for conservatism and not for the country. And yes, it is a mark against John McCain, against his judgment and idealism …"
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I have to say I realy dont like Palin..
I wonder how after all this is done she wil feel about herself ? McCain used her as a stunt and she has been tired to a crazy campaign and acted with out honor i wonder how she will feel about all this.
She isnt ready to lead and she isnt strong enough to say enough if she hates how she has acted and been used!
Either way she’s weak!
Posted by: Mike NC | October 20, 2008, 7:17 am 7:17 am
We already know that women aren’t welcom in presidential politics. So what is new here, Jake?
Posted by: tina | October 20, 2008, 7:27 am 7:27 am
What we cannot deny is that there have been an influx of conservatives beginning to flow into the Obama camp- or at the very least, showing decreasing confidence in McCain’s pick of Sarah Palin.
Those of you who shout that they are not real conservatives or have been hoodwinked by Obama, really, that’s just ridiculous. You should instead be looking at why they’re not supporting McCain and try to work for there instead of sliming your own side.
Posted by: Grey Matter | October 20, 2008, 7:29 am 7:29 am
Inside the beltway dribble by both Noonan and Buckley. What neither of these fine people understand is that we are simply tired of Lawyers and Bankers posing as caring and understanding leaders.
In regards to all those brilliant minds we have steering our economic policies… a group of winos could have done a better job.
Posted by: david | October 20, 2008, 7:29 am 7:29 am
When McCain can’t even say his VP choice is qualified when asked in a nation debate, that says it all.
All McCain has said about Palin’s credibilty is he’s “proud of her” and she “draws a crowd”.
Just another example of poor judment by John McCain
Posted by: Capt McCain and His Talking Parrot | October 20, 2008, 7:33 am 7:33 am
tina,
Hillary Clinton is very much welcome in presidential politics. So is Condi Rice, Kay Bailey Hutchison or Olympia Snowe, but NOT Sarah Palin.
I’m a woman myself, and would like to see a woman get there, but I want her to be the right woman. And to me, Sarah Palin is not. Her interviews show how shallow her understanding of foreign policy is. She is terrifyingly flippant about standing by while Israel invades Iran- hello, how about innocent Iranians? Or regional stability?
Stop crying sexism. Sarah Palin is being slammed because of her QUALIFICATIONS. I know there are some people out there who are sexist, but in this case, it is obvious she is not qualified. How can anyone compare her few years as a mayor, barely two years as a governor to Obama’s eight years in the Illinois Senate, then in the US Senate? What executive experience? She left her town swimming in debt. She abused her power.
If she were a man, it’d be the same- people would see her as unqualified.
Posted by: Grey Matter | October 20, 2008, 7:33 am 7:33 am
I would not have minded a woman president..Hillary comes to mind.
But Palin is just a gimmick to energize the Republican base…she has no substance.
Read more about her on Alaska Daily News, read her real story and what she did as Mayor and Governor and you will see what she might do as president….it is very scary.
If the media won’t vet her and look into her past, then we as voters must.
Her hubby a member of AIP and her praising that group as of June 2008 and then praising her getting elected Governor so you can get inside the government.
You just need to do your homework.
Everyone believes what they hear about Obama and reports on that, why not report on Palin, what are you afraid of Jake?
Obama/Biden ’08
Posted by: Bev | October 20, 2008, 7:34 am 7:34 am
We already know that women aren’t welcom in presidential politics. So what is new here, Jake?
======================
Certainly, it has nothing to do with her complete lack of knowlege of national and international affairs.
It’s just because she’s a woman.
Yah, uh, sure, that’s it.
Posted by: Truth Hurts the GOP | October 20, 2008, 7:38 am 7:38 am
It pains me to even respond to anything about Sarah Palin. Great leaders understand the power of their words. Great leaders are not divisive, they seek to unite – thus they are called leaders. …………………
Posted by: Ohg Rea Tone | October 20, 2008, 8:33 am 8:33 am
Anybody that believes that Obama has more experience has lost their mind’s, better yet, give me examples. You will not find one instance where he is more Qualified. Second, all the interview’s are of the washington and NY elite that have brought you your current Economic disaster. Third, all you have to do is look at who support’s Obama.
Hamas
palistenians
chavez
castro ayres
rezko
frank dodd
kenyan murderer, odinga
Abortion rights
Gay rights
the elite movie stars
p diddy
madge and skank sandra bernhard
That should be good enough to prove he is The wrong choice for the Middle Class
Posted by: Eagle Eye | October 20, 2008, 8:34 am 8:34 am
“If the media won’t vet her and look into her past, then we as voters must.”
If the media wonn’t vet her? Made me laugh out loud, that did.
Posted by: Jim - PRS | October 20, 2008, 8:58 am 8:58 am
When I read articles like this it makes me sad. Just an opinion piece- so you don’t like her. Well, I don’t like Obama, and I will tell you why-with facts. Obama has some unsavory people in his past- but what is sad about this is two things- 1, that he claims he really didn’t know these people, and 2, (and most importantly), that he used these people to grow his political base, then, when people support him, disavow a relationship. Pathetic. typical politician. And pork-he is the king in the short time he has been in office. And what decision making have you seen from his career? Votes present rather than taking a side- doesn’t want to be held accountable for anything. so what are you truly getting behind? A man who doesn’t want to take a stand-that way he can honestly state that he didn’t sign up for either position. Careful, you people will get what you wish for! Welcome to socialism!! And sadly, there is proof- Obama joined the Democratic Socialist of America in 1995 in Chicago. And signed the contract to be visible and involved on the national level. Where is my camo uniform- you know its coming!
Posted by: Terri D | October 20, 2008, 9:00 am 9:00 am
Jake, count me as another conservative who is not only embarassed but also ashamed. When we have a VP candidate that we have to sequester, it’s not a sign of confidence by the campaign. When we have Joe the plumber giveing more press conferences than Palin (still zero), it’s not a sign of confidence by the campaign.
McCain’s lack of judgment is the issue – he chose someone that not only isn’t ready but cannot even pretend to be. She has had 7 weeks now to study up. How much longer do we go on blind faith that at some point she will be able to utter coherent thoughts regarding the big domestic and international issues facing our nation?
Her selection was a stunt, and the fact that she remains on the ticket is utter insanity and disqualifies McCain as a serious candidate for the office he seeks.
Republicans used to stand for exceptionalism, about promoting a positive and uplifting vision for America and our ideals. Now, the campaign is all anti-Obama, name-calling, awful insinuations and ugly rumors. Powell was right – how many of us are going to be disqualified by the RNC as non-Americans? How much more can McCain divide us?
Embarassed, yes. Ashamed of my party – even more so.
Posted by: Florida Republican | October 20, 2008, 9:04 am 9:04 am
Republicans have been “fooling” the American public for a long time with gimmicks and tricks. However, this time, they were unalbe to pull it off and get away with it. They had hoped to divide and they did in a small measure. But the times are too great and too serious for people to go into their separate corners especially when they feel that we are all of us in this together and must unite if we are to overcome these challenges. Sarah Palin was a dismal choice based on stunt and a gamble that the American people were just not paying attention. We were.
Posted by: Angellight | October 20, 2008, 9:49 am 9:49 am
I am a woman. Sarah Palin is not qualified. If John McCain were going to pick a woman, more qualified woman are Republicans. Sarah is great speaker, but that is as far as it goes. I have researched her extensively up in Alaska. And I became alarmed. My excitement for a woman soon turned to total alarm.
I am very concerned about her honesty and integrity as well. Alaska Legislative Investigation found her to have abused her power as Governor of Alaska.
The hate mongering speeches she gives is so very dangerous!! The insulting dangerous Robocalls shock me. The poor children who have received these calls are scared to death.
Posted by: Sharonklim | October 20, 2008, 9:50 am 9:50 am
I like Palin. She just hasn’t had the time to be “slick packaged”. Obama is still a manufactured candidate whose people have run the most organized campaign in history. He’s had unpresedented media coverage and money raised. It amazes me that supposedly intelligent people cannot see the overwhelming selling of him. People are so angry at Bush that they are willing to believe anything Obama tells them. It’s equally stunning the suppression of his backround. Again, people don’t seem to care. He has absolutely no executive experience. I wonder how soon the excuses will start when he can’t make good on his promises, because it WILL happen. Mentors like Bill Ayers will continue to spread his message under the radar because he’s never stopped. Predictions: The troops will not come home. The economy will not get better. Welfare will more than double. We will be allies of Israel’s enemies. His healthcare system will not work. You will be taxed more than he says. His “friends” will come out of hiding. Opposition will be punished.
Posted by: RL in Illinois | October 20, 2008, 9:53 am 9:53 am
As far as Peggy Noonan, she must have known somebody to get her job. She’s an idiot.
Posted by: RL in Illinois | October 20, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am
Republicans have become a national and worldwide joke with their support of Palin. The disgust and astonishment at Plain’s selection is rightly justified.
BTW: say it ain’t so……
Freddie Mac secretly paid a Republican consulting firm $2 million to kill legislation that would have regulated and trimmed the mortgage finance giant and its sister company, Fannie Mae, three years before the government took control to prevent their collapse.
Posted by: Blue | October 20, 2008, 9:59 am 9:59 am
Grey Matter, sorry but you are wrong. The Left and the liberal media would have gone after any Pro-Life woman that was on the Republican ticket. That is what this is all about. Gov. Palin is “unqualified” because she does not support abortion. Can you honestly tell me that John Edwards has more experience than Gov. Palin?
I, personally, am very excited about Gov. Palin being on the ticket. I trust her more than I trust Sen. Obama. That’s because I see through Sen. Obama. Unfortunately, the majority of the American electorate refuses to take a deeper look at him because they are enamored with his voice and looks. He really IS, at the very least, a socialist. But with all of his communist background, and the fact that he has yet to denounce the tenants of Communism, my concern is that he really is a communist. The Europeans see this, and that’s why they love him.
Posted by: James Danley | October 20, 2008, 10:04 am 10:04 am
James Danley: Obama got that big reception in Berlin. You don’t seriously think Germany is communist do you?
Posted by: Aengil | October 20, 2008, 10:10 am 10:10 am
‘Palin was an ill-considered compromise. She has little experience and has displayed an alarming lack of knowledge on national and international issues. ‘
re: James
‘He really IS, at the very least, a socialist. But with all of his communist background, and the fact that he has yet to denounce the tenants of Communism,…’
you Republicans are sounding more paranoid everyday and your pent up seething xenophobic rage is showing……. I am glad you will become a political minority for a long to time to come….
Posted by: Blue | October 20, 2008, 10:10 am 10:10 am
YOUR HEADLINE SHOULD SAY:
Elite conservatives don’t like Palin
Average, hardworking, middle class conservative LOVE Palin.
Posted by: Frieda | October 20, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am
Sarah Palin, already a national joke ,thanks to SNL and Tina Fey’s spot-on lampooning, is not only an embarrassment to the country,but the entire world. Can you see her representing the United States with her backwoods mentality? Do you think foreign diplomatic envoys will be able to have her “betcha’s” and “golly’s” translated properly? Do you think that Middle Eastern cultures that are ultra-conservative will be impressed with the winking and kiss-blowing?? (not to mention her double pageant waves…)??? The United States would be the laughing stock of the international community and rightly so. The world watches us with intense scrutiny because of our leadership position amongst the nations of the world. The Free World expects and deserves better than a hockey mom with baggage !
Posted by: The Reminder | October 20, 2008, 10:23 am 10:23 am
It is noticeable throughout the primaries and now just how much Obama supporters depend on rage and feed on it. It is a destructive technique for culture in general.
The trick is to frame the opponent in a bad light. It is their first move when they are confused by a reply or contradicted. This is something they share with Obama who is thin skinned when his intellectual superiority is questioned.
The framing of his organization as intellectually superior and all others as inferior (‘dumb’, ‘moron’, ‘scoundrel’) has been their most consistent approach throughout the primaries and beyond. This results in the ‘self/other’ antipathy that feeds the rage machine.
They are doing this deliberately because they are doing it consistently.
Means matter when considering a candidate and the means used by the Obama campaign indicate his term in office should he win will be a divisive one with little achieved except to drive divisions deeper into the American psyche.
Don’t respond with rage or hurt. It empties your life into their hell.
Posted by: len | October 20, 2008, 10:27 am 10:27 am
EMBARRASSING?
What’s embarrassing is having Obama running for President when he’s unable to produce a legal birth certificate.
Posted by: Susan | October 20, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am
Those of us who live in the “real world”…where we like to think for ourselves, rather than being told by the Noonans, Buckleys, and Parkers of the worlds how we are suppose to think–LOVE the Palins and “Joe the Plumbers” of the world. They get it.
They (we) know that a government for the people and by the people was NEVER suppose to be made up of life-long bureaucrats who decided that they were “smarter and better” than those they were elected to SERVE. That our government was never suppose to be made up of rulers but rather public servants who serve the common good, not the good of themselves or special interests.
Sarah Palin understands that…Joe the Plumber gets that. These Uber-Conservative-Elitists like Buckley and Noonan–they are too smart for words.
Similarly with the elite media–except they add the additional dose of liberalism or go even further into outright socialism with their “here’s what you heard” commentary.
The “breath of fresh air” that many people hear in these new voices that have come out this election cycle–is those that finally represent US. We relate to them. Finally–someone speaks our language. They understand our daily life and don’t degrade it or mock it. They embrace it and us.
Posted by: Michelle | October 20, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am
Washington insiders. All of them whoever they are. I don’t know anyone who actually watches these shows.
McCain chose a woman of the people and the beltway crowd are in a snit.
Posted by: geevill | October 20, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am
Seriously, what has Peggy Noonan ever done? Palin, at least, has run a state, negotiated giant contracts and inspired millions. It sounds like Noonan is jealous and desperately clinging to her increasing irrelevancy…
Posted by: The Dude | October 20, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am
They are embarrassed to be seen with any real American Sarah Palin, Joe the plumber or me.
Posted by: geevill | October 20, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am
so true
Posted by: B.O.B | October 20, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am
Palin’s rise is proof that
the dumbing down of America
is proceeding apace.
Posted by: anon | October 20, 2008, 11:16 am 11:16 am
Re: Peggy Noonan:
Vaulting ambition that o’erleaps
and falls on th’other.
A little “Macbeth”, anyone?
Posted by: rogerthomas | October 20, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am
C’mon,
every one is entitled to his or her opinion, remember freedom of speech….
Fact is that Palin is a lightweight on many area’s. She can winkle and do her betcha stuff, maybe she is even in reality very likable, putting her in charge of corporate America is just to irresponsible.
What leadership has she shown, she doesn’t dare to do interviews because the media is to ‘liberal’.
Posted by: CLabs | October 20, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am
frieda,
should average, middle class american be running the coutry?
Posted by: B.O.B | October 20, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am
it was a bone headed mistake for a man of john mccain’ statue, and age to pick mrs. palin,, it has been unfair to her,
and would be unfair to the country.
he should be yelling mayday, mayday
about his STT straight talk titanic going down, with his followers yelling socialist, ayers, and birth certificates
Posted by: B.O.B | October 20, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am
really, mrs. palin is getting a bad rap here. mccain’ campaign has been wrong on so many levels,
she should not be taking the blame for it failing.
when in actual fact he was down and out
before she came on the scene.
it is because she came on the scene he has gotten traction this long.
so it was a brilliant politcal stunt at the time, but it has backfired on him
Posted by: B.O.B. | October 20, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am
Peggy Noonan is quite correct: Sarah Palin is the Babbitt of the 21st century!
Posted by: chuck | October 20, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am
McCain could have picked:
Kay Bailey Hutchison
Elizabeth Dole
Condoleeza Rice
Christine Todd Whitman
Jane Swift
All high-profile political figures who might have provided confident, intelligent, political challenge for Barack Obama and Joe Biden.
Particularly, Kay Bailey Hutchison and Elizabeth Dole, would have boosted interest from female voters who have been repelled by and embarassed for Sarah Palin’s utter, vacuous, narrow-minded, mean-spirted, small, tiny, ignorant world view.
John McCain ran down a list of qualified Republican females and rock-paper-scissored his way to Palin. For some reason, the view on the ground is that McCain prefers women he can dominate, for instance, the type of wife he chose. I don’t see him as capable of “running” Kay Bailey, for instance.
Colin Powell was correct in his assessment of John McCain’s inadequate judgement towards his own campaign, the election, and the electorate.
Posted by: Dallas | October 20, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
More propaganda from the liberal MSM and drive by media.
It is well known that Chris Buckley is not a conservative like his father, so no surprise there.
The only “conservatives” that are embarrased about Palin are in the media.
There is no story here, move along people.
Posted by: Sean A | October 20, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm
frieda,
should average, middle class american be running the coutry?
Posted by: B.O.B | Oct 20, 2008 11:30:51 AM
====================
YES!
People who actually pay bills, know what it’s like to live on a budget and show up for work, work hard and not take 10 vacations a year.
YES. Those are the people who I want to run this country.
Posted by: Sean A | October 20, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
len:
re”Means matter when considering a candidate and the means used by the Obama campaign…. .. will be a divisive one with little achieved except to drive divisions deeper into the American psyche.”
the above post by ‘len’ is a good example of why the Republicans are so far gone….
Calling Dems divisive? as if the Republicans and their robo-calls, etc. haven’t become the most negative hate filled campaign in American history…..
Posted by: Blue | October 20, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
What so many of you don’t know is that an American President is seen as first among equals by Global Heads of Government.
Mrs Palin, recent events have shown, lacks indepth knowledge of issues.
She excites the base but to someone that is non-partisan, She is an epitome of what has brought America to its knees in recent times – Ignorance.
She has become an butt of jokes all over the World. People tune or turn up to/for her Campaign Speeches because they are looking for gaffes.
She is been able to do well for herself in Alaska with less than 700k population. How she was able to rise to that position reminds me of the fable where the one-eyed man is king in the land of the blind.
Her lack of depth is an insult to all women that can think on their feet. She is an insult to the Hillary Clintons of this world.
Posted by: Dare Nigeria | October 20, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
Aengil, no the German government is not communist. But a good size portion of the people of not just Germany but all of Europe are sympathetic to the communist cause.
Posted by: James Danley | October 20, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm
frieda,
should average, middle class american be running the coutry?
Posted by: B.O.B | Oct 20, 2008 11:30:51 AM
====================
YES!
People who actually pay bills, know what it’s like to live on a budget and show up for work, work hard and not take 10 vacations a year.
YES. Those are the people who I want to run this country.
Posted by: Sean A | Oct 20, 2008 12:06:17 PM
Wow, I guess I could be the vp then. I guess any of us could. Cool.
Posted by: annie | October 20, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
Blue, explain to me how someone can be mentored by and consider as a father-figure a communist for five years when only 14-18 years of age; spend several years studying and practicing the principles of another communist; and then for more than two additional decades associate himself with other radicals who espouse anti-America and anti-Capitalism views and not come away with some of their beliefs?
This is not paranoia. This is a legitimate question that needs to be answered. The American people should demand that Sen. Obama come clean.
Posted by: James Danley | October 20, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
Blue, as a follow up, this is not rage. I am not the least bit angry. The fact is I like Sen. Obama. I just do not agree with his ideology. I certainly don’t have to agree with a person’s ideology in order to like them. In fact, I have members of my own family who I love dearly, and we disagree on ideology.
Posted by: James Danley | October 20, 2008, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm
Sarah Palin fights Socialism. That is why she increased taxes on oil compainies in order to finance welfare checks to all Alaskans including the rich.
Posted by: ricky | October 20, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
I think it is very wise of conservatives to speak up about McCain’s lousy judgment in choosing Falin for his running mate. Falin is no more fit to be VP or POTUS than any other beauty queen in Alaska! Just look at the choices she has had made for her: Just this weekend, instead of going on Meet the Press, or Face the Nation, she goes on SNL. And even on SNL, she doesn’t OPEN HER MOUTH! She’s not even allowed to speak on a comedy show!! That’s bad, folks! She cannot hold her own on a comedy show, so she defintely can’t hold her own on the world stage. Suppose she has to go to the UN to speak? Would the translators even be able to understand what the heck she’s saying with her “Gee, Golly”, “you betcha”, and winking at the men in the audience instead of speaking clearly? How long do you think that would be tolerated before they all started walking out? This woman would have us in a war before we knew what hit us-ignorance is not cute, and not what we need (any more) running for office.
Posted by: Gigi Jones | October 20, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
It is not Governer Palin that is unfit, it is Sentor Obama who is unfit with all his close ties to radicals and enemies of the United States. He even supported the Humas in speeches while a state senator.
Hopefully, it is proven that he indeed was born in Kenya and not elligible for office of President.
Posted by: Mary | October 20, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
Ricky, it is the Alaska State Constitution that mandates that Alaskan residents (minimum one-year residency) receive an annual oil royalty dividend check. Alaska does not have a state income tax, nor a state sales tax (although some cities and boroughs have sales taxes), and more than 80% of the state budget is from the royalties and taxes on the oil producers. Alaska had a $6 billion surplus (because of the skyrocketing oil prices) and since the cost of gasoline was hurting the citizens, Gov. Palin chose to send each resident an additional $1,200 oil royalty dividend check instead of giving the money back to the oil companies.
Posted by: James Danley | October 20, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
As offensive as I find her “real America” rhetoric, Sarah Palin’s not really the issue. McCain’s lack of judgment in selecting her is the issue. It was just another stunt in a campaign comprised of stunts. It’s almost painful to watch him try to claim that she’s ready to be President.
Posted by: Brooklyn Democrat | October 20, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
Brooklyn Democrat, and I find it laughable that so many people believe that Sen. Obama is ready to be president just because he is articulate, charismatic and attractive.
Posted by: James Danley | October 20, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
Hey Blue: Did you miss the Hillary Urinal targets? Have you seen the Palin t-shirts? Have you listened to an Obama speech lately?
No, I guess you haven’t.
Just in case: Dylan Sucks.
Posted by: len | October 20, 2008, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm
OBAMA IS A FRAUD!
Doesn’t have a US Birth Certificate! Get a clue people!
Posted by: Jake | October 20, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
James Danley
with all due respect….
suggesting that Obama is a communist is a lil bit much….
len…
good buddy re: ” Have you listened to an Obama speech lately?
yes…. speaks about McCain being ‘out of touch’ with what’s needed for the country, he speaks of disagreements McCains polices
and chastises McCain for the low road campaign tactics…
your point is ?
Posted by: Blue | October 20, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
Blue, Frank Marshall Davis WAS a communist. In fact, he was an agitator and a recruiter for the Communist Party USA during the five years that he was mentoring and being a father-figure to young Barry Obama.
Saul Alinksky WAS a Communist and the founder of modern community organizing in America. It was his principles that Barry Obama studied and practiced when he was a community organizer.
The fact that Sen. Obama has continued to surround himself with radicals means either Sen. Obama holds at least some of their beliefs (i.e., birds of a feather flock together) OR Sen. Obama has shown a true lack of judgment in selecting his friends.
Posted by: James Danley | October 20, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
Birth certificates are public records and Obama’s birth certificate has been copied and can be seen by anyone who can surf the internet. He was born in Hawaii in 1961; Hawaii became a state in 1959 and before that was a territory (same thing as being born in a state for political purposes). McCain was born in the Panama Canal and had to have Congress issue a decree or whatever they call it, to declare that he is natural-born citizen eligible to run for President. Don’t any of the Obama haters ever check their facts?
Posted by: Karen Linton | October 20, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
What I’m finding out in this election is that at least 1/3 of Americans are basing their choice as to whom they would elect for President on one issue only, and then running with it. We all should consider every issue that is out there, test all accusations and information thoroughly, and keeping in mind that we need a President who will know how to deal intelligently with the current economic crisis and the wars in Iran and Irag.
If we judge either candidate on race, religion, creed, age, etc…it is unconstitutional. I actually hear one American say that she wouldn’t vote for Obama because of his name and another said he wouldn’t vote for McCain because he is too old. America needs to wake up and take our right to vote seriously. This shouldn’t come down to hearsay that hasn’t been tested. It should come down to who is the best and most prepared person for the job. If you only make that judgement based on your biases for either candidate, you aren’t practicing your civic duty as an American citizen.
Posted by: Julie | October 20, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
I’m a progressive and I’m embarrassed by Obama – and “his” media. For him to pretend that he was antiwar just to beat Clinton was horrible. But the left bought it. Then he picks pro-War Biden as a running mate, and the hypocritical liberals and media said nothing. Now he’s gushy over getting Powell — who fraudently sold the war for Bush — to endorse him , and you are writing about conservatives feeling embarassed about Palin. Give me a break. Palin isn’t running for President.
Why don’t you ask the question how a supposedly antiwar and anti-Bush candidate can be gushy over a former military/Sec. of State who went before the UN and made the case for intervention based on evidence that was a forgery but which was easily verfiable as inauthentic. He also was instrumental in blocking Clinton’s efforts to end the ban on gays in the military — which gave us the horrific “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy. Yet – you say nothing of this. No wonder 55 percent of Americans believe the media is biased. It’s so blatantly obvious.
Posted by: Tommy | October 20, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
By far, the funnest part of the campaign has been watching conservatives eat their own. Go to the freeper sites and watch them hang Colin Powell in effigy in the comments, along with Peggy Noonan, The Chicago Tribune, Christopher Buckley, Chuck Hagel, the list gets bigger every day. I think the word is schadenfreude.
Posted by: USMC | October 20, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
I’m a progressive and I’m embarrassed by Obama – and “his” media. For him to pretend that he was antiwar just to beat Clinton was horrible. But the left bought it. Then he picks pro-War Biden as a running mate, and the hypocritical liberals and media said nothing. Now he’s gushy over getting Powell — who fraudently sold the war for Bush — to endorse him , and you are writing about conservatives feeling embarassed about Palin. Give me a break. Palin isn’t running for President.
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No progressive would ever say anything remotely like you just did. Go back to Rush’s website and stop pretending to be something you’re not. You can’t be a progressive and believe in the big, bad librul media conspiracy.
Posted by: USMC | October 20, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
McCain’s famous “poor judgment” of the Keating scandal days continues unabated. Consider:
Campaign manager Rick Davis–paid lobbyist for Freddie/Fannie
Sarah Palin–even the neo-cons are appalled
Economic advisor Phil Gramm–called us a nation of whiners
Advisor William Timmons–paid lobbyist for Saddam Hussein after first gulf war
Convention Manager Doug Goodyear–paid lobbyist for military junta in Myanmar
Advisor James Loeffler–lobbyist for Saudi Royal family
Posted by: William J. LePetomaine | October 20, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
re: Posted by: William J. LePetomaine | Oct 20, 2008 4:43:07 PM
the neo-cons may be apalled, but the neanderthal-cons are pretty revved up
btw … WJP, appreciate your insight on gubernatorial matters
Posted by: OneObservation | October 20, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
Julie, with all due respect, one’s reason for voting for someone is that person’s business…and his or hers alone. The criteria used in making the decision is ALSO that person’s own business. The U. S. Constitution does not prohibit an individual from voting for or against someone based on their “race, religion, creed, age, etc…” OR even based on just one issue, or even a flip of a coin. The U. S. Constitution only forbids excluding a person from being on a ballot based on “race, religion, creed or maximum age (there are certain minimum age requirements for some offices).
Posted by: James Danley | October 20, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
The truth they say is bitter. Of all the endorsements so far, Gen Colin Powell’s reasons for his endorsement of Obama is the most objective and reasonable analysis of how the US Presidential campaign has been run thus far.When the US sneezes, Europe catches a cold.Although europeans do not have a right to vote in US elections, they are equally affected by Wall Street problems sometimes even more so. Open your eyes, ears and hearts. Sarah Palin is simply NOT qualified for the office McCain wants her to hold. God knows what McCain was thinking when he made that choice! God help you when you make that choice come Nov 4, 2008.
Posted by: James Cosby | October 20, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
Oh abcnews, abcnews–you and your lot keep trying to undermine Palin but I just returned from a rally with her here in CO and i can tell you there are thousands who love her.
Posted by: Karen | October 20, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm
Republican past and present catch phrase
Past
If someone said Iraq war wrong, they were
unpatrotic
Were the WMD?
unpatrotic
Tax Cut for the rich, non for middle class.
unpatrotic
Wall Street Regulations
unpatrotic
Present
No more tax cut for the rich
unamerican
Palin not qualified
unamerican
Not voting for Mccain
unamerican
Hey Republican it looks like your catch phrase not catching on this time.
Obama/Biden-08
Posted by: attacked tired | October 20, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
Peggy Noonan is dried up and bitter. Her day came and went and she has let her bitterness take over her objectivity that people used to enjoy reading and hearing. It is sad really! Why does she question Palin’s ambition? She has stooped to cranking out articles that any tabloid could produce in seconds. That’s ambition at it’s worst. Just writing to pander to the highest bidder….
Posted by: Shel | October 20, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
wonder what they would say about palins calendar circa 1984—-they would flip their lids.
Posted by: rodney | October 20, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
I don’t understand anyone saying Palin will do a good job because she’s ‘one of us’. I know more about international relations and economics than her but I wouldn’t ever say I should be v.p. We need someone very knowledgeable and very intelligent as our leader. Someone much smarter than the ‘average Joe’. Let’s face it Bush was an average guy. Look at all the trouble that has resulted from letting an average person be the ‘decider’.
A president or vice-president should need details told to them (like details about current trade negotiations) but not how things in general (like the economy) work.
It would be like when you needed a surgeon so you hired the nice guy next door, because he would have someone next to him explaining stuff. In truth you’ve got to know an incredible amount of detail before you operate, much more than you can cram in during a campaign. If you don’t understand thoroughly how the economy works, you’ve got no business running for office. Read Obama’s second book and you see he really understands all the subjects a President needs to know.
It’s simple. Both McCain and Obama are loyal public servants. Both of them want to do the right thing. But you’ve got McCain who admits he doesn’t know much about economics (which to me is criminal if you are a senator for 26 years and you don’t learn about a topic you are affecting with your votes!) and Obama with a lot of knowledge. McCain graduated near the bottom of his college while Obama was near the top.
McCain has been rich for the twenty something years he has been married to Cindy, with no real idea of how ordinary people live. Like Bush, his base are very wealthy people.
Obama took out student loans. He knows what it is like to worry about money and affording a house. His base are ordinary people, the poor and the middle-class who have made over half of his donations collected, one twenty dollar bill at a time.
McCain has trouble communicating unless he is reading a speech. Obama can communicate extremely well. (This really comes in handy when negotiating.) McCain is known for an anger management problem while Obama has a calm demeanor even when those around him are losing control.(again crucial in negotiations, dealing with your staff, leading during emergencies)
Obama is the better choice.
Posted by: Lydia | October 20, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
I agree with Karen. Just went by the Palin rally in CO. There were ‘thousands who loved her’ there. Each one wearing their own little cattle bell…standing in the field, chewing their cud and listening intently to the empty words and meaningless gibberish coming out of Sarah’s pie hole.
Posted by: Larry W | October 20, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
I’m not appaled by Sara in the least. What appalls me is that we have a terroists loving, won’t put his hand over his heart during the National Anthem socialists on the verge of the being the left wing Liberals President.
Even Joe Biden has stated that the office of Commander In Chief isn’t one for on the job trining. It’s a miracle how a man’s opinion changes when he is offered the position of Vice President
Posted by: George | October 21, 2008, 12:23 am 12:23 am
Look at the liberal logic.
Sarah palin running for the Vice President is inexperienced.
Obama who even Biden thinks is inexperienced and who has less than 2 years working experience in Senate is more experienced.
Great Liberal logic.
Posted by: Greg h | October 21, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am
It sounds like Sarah is trying to salvage what may be left of her political career. Distacang herself from Mcain, telling Rush and all of America “I have nothing to lose” .Does a True winner speak like that? Do they keeps diagreeing with their running mate. Lately it seems like Sarah is finding more things to disagree about with Mccain than Obama does
Posted by: mscaro | October 21, 2008, 1:00 am 1:00 am