Debate Tip: Look for Palin to Use Biden’s Own Words to Attack Obama

Barracuda!

SP
you are being sarcastoc but that just might exactly be the argument to use…. the man is questionable at best… there is no grounds to use the “Lesser of two evils” argument for Obama over mccain

When they call her “barracuda”
is that about how much knowledge of these overwhelming issues we have facing us?
or is it because she swims like one?
if a barracuda bites in the ocean…but all the people in the nation were destroyed by her pressing the button to blow up Putin’s rearing head…
does it make a sound?
ugh
the worst ticket in our nation’s history…
Mccain Palin
dumb and dumbest.

Myself and many others, are not interested
in attacks.
We want to hear her plans and where she
will take the country to.
Attacks is wastage of time and do not
help anyone!

HP Boston
you have been trying to bring up scandals…
as each one has gotten disproven or investigated after all of your distracting non sense for 2 years…
stop
Obama is a good guy who has faced every issue…every problem thrown at him…every question… and given detailed thoughtful answers on almost every single one…for almost 2 years.
Mccain and Palin are the worst ticket we have ever seen in our nation’s history.
when do you realize those tactics from the past 8 years aren’t working anymore.

Well, I guess if using past words and some changes on positions determines who wins the debate, Palin will win hands down – since the McCain campaign has hid her from the American voters, she has very little past words or positions for someone to hold her to. This is a ridiculous smoke and mirrors, sound-bite cramming exhibition tonight by Gov Palin that, even should she do well, do nothing to assure the American people that she is qualified for office. Just like any college student or graduate can relate to, all it shows is that her short term memory capabilities are good. Joe Biden has been out, available to the public, in over 90 public interviews, Meet the Press, etc. In the minute number of interviews Palin has held, we have seen her at odds with McCain’s foreign policy in Pakistan, and show a “stunning” lack of in depth understanding of the most basic of foreign policy and economic principles. Surely the American voters are smart enough to know a “debate camp” graduate as opposed to a candidate with extensive, in depth knowledge of the complex, critical issues facing this country and threatening the futures of our children and grandchildren.

Then let Biden remind her that a few months ago Palin, talking to Charlie Rose, said that she didn’t know yet who she’d be voting for in this election.

Interesting reading:
Ann Coulter’s colum, October 1, 2008.

Sarah needs to ask Joe about his coal mining days in Scranton – must have been child labor and then have him talk facing death in the helicopter and how he loved FDR’s TV speech in 1929.

She better embrace the posture of humility after having embarrassed herself and America so much in the Couric interviews.
Only humility can save her in this debate.

That’s a “debate tip?”
Another “tip” grass is green, water is wet

Guess Dl is assigned this blog today to keep us all informed about all the liberal bs. You may need Ryan C. to give you a hand, he has a quite large play-book and seems to know the answer to anything we throw at him, like it or not. I, like Senator McCain and Sarah Paln are true patriots. I stand and place my hand over my heart when the National Anthem is played. And, if I were not a woman I would wear a flag pin in my lapel.

Mrs Palin, please elaborate….
Thought so.
Obama 08

“Why is FEC Keeping Lid on OBAMA SCANDAL?”
Posted by: HP Boston
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Adjust the color on your tv set.

Mrs Palin name on newspaper you actually read?
Though so
Obama 08

Sarah barracuda? Yeah lets vote her into office based on her high school basketball team nickname.
Really?
Obama 08

I like Sarah Palin. If she had a few beers in her, I bet that I’d like her even more.
However, no matter how many facts and one-liners the GOP crams into her head, she is not ready to be President of the United States.
McCain/Palin in ’08? Thanks, but no thanks.

“scandals…as each one has gotten disproven or investigated after all of your distracting non sense for 2 years…”
Indictments of ACORN in over 12 states. Fact.
Obama sueing banks to make subprime loans. Fact.
Obama using Annenburg funds to radicalize Illinois schools. Fact.
Obama encouraging intimidation of citizens by his supporters. Fact.
Relentless smearing and fabrications against his opponents in races he has run since his days as an Illinois Senator. Fact.
It isn’t that there aren’t sufficient facts to prove the shady behavior of Barack Obama, it is that his supporters don’t care. So this election in the final days is coming down to the low-information voters versus the low-experience voters such as yourself who haven’t experienced enough of life to know what a term won by intimidation will come to soon after the election.
The way one wins limits what one can achieve. By that measure, an Obama administration will be the greatest failure since…. George W. Bush.
As the twig is bent, so grows the tree.

Beck,
“What is up with this $200 million in earmarks attached to our Bailout Bill??? Repubs suck!!!”
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Didn’t the Dems vote too? Maybe they were the ones that voted to give a tax break to make wooden arrows and a tax break for Hollywood. Dl and Ryan C. will put their liberal spin on this…just watch.

Sarah honey, just be yourself….oh wait….never mind!

Palin can attack Biden and Obama all she wants…in fact, she has to attack because she has no experience of her own. Unlike Obama and Biden, she has no track record. She never really commanded the AK National Guard to do anything. Her stint as mayor of Wasilla resulted in a 30% increase in taxes and allowed her to get exemptions for snowmbilers (her husband races them) and plane owners (her father-in-law owns one). She flip-flopped on the Bridge to Nowhere, and spend $27 million on a three mile road on an island with 50 people and no cars. She claims to have passed a pipeline bill, but the bill she supported doesn’t authorize building of a pipeline. She vetoed money for the AK Special Olympics and made women who were raped in Wasilla pay for the own rape kits, detering many from even reporting the assaults. She fired a respected police officer for taking a trip her office approved. She promotes family values, but wasn’t around her family enough to keep her daughter from getting pregnant by a self-avowed redneck, and her preacher started his career by declaring a woman in his Kenyan village a witch and responsible for a rash of auto accidents, then drove her from her home. He prayed for Palin to be governor and drive the witches and non-Christians from Juneau.
She can say what she wants about Obama and Biden, but the facts are Palin is a freak and not worthy of the office of Vice President.

Anyone who reads a column by Ann Coulter has no credibility! That woman is disgusting!
Barack Obama said he wanted to choose people for his cabinet who wouldn’t necessarily have the same view on issues as himself so that they would challenge his own thinking. His first pick, Joe Biden, is the beginning of that idea.
Read the book about Abe Lincoln, “Team of Rivals” and you will get the idea, as Lincoln appointed his rivals for the presidential nomination as his cabinet members!

Mr. Coffee: Believe me, no one is impressed with your pompass attitude so get over your self. Now that being said, as far as any poll goes do you remember Truman, Duey?

“Let’s not forget what is happening in Ohio this week with the early voting.”
I haven’t but the outcomes of those tactics concern me more. As pointed out before, ACORN and Obama’s long association with the organization will be the cause to challenge votes in many states, and that will make a bad situation of temperament fueled by the inevitable economic pain much worse.
Even if Obama wins, the first year will be a nightmare and the second will be worse. The elements of racism that have been used so freely by Obama and his supporters to divide the citizens will come roaring out in bumper stickers, etc. This will feed the fire.
If Alinsky wanted chaos, this will do it.
The means make the difference in the outcome.

Let’s not forget what is happening in Ohio this week with the early voting.”
I haven’t but the outcomes of those tactics concern me more. As pointed out before, ACORN and Obama’s long association with the organization will be the cause to challenge votes in many states, and that will make a bad situation of temperament fueled by the inevitable economic pain much worse.
Even if Obama wins, the first year will be a nightmare and the second will be worse. The elements of racism that have been used so freely by Obama and his supporters to divide the citizens will come roaring out in bumper stickers, etc. This will feed the fire.
If Alinsky wanted chaos, this will do it.
The means make the difference in the outcome.
Posted by: len | Oct 2, 2008 10:44:17 AM
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GD scary huh Len……………it is the PLAN!

A little off the subject, but has anyone seen Obama’s channel on Dish network? I can’t believe this is allowed. Channel 73, I won’t post a link to the story because it would just be deleted.

Biden could say,
“Of course in the great history of America there have been rulings that there’s never gonna be absolute consensus by every American.”

S WHY DOES MCCAIN NOT WEAR HIS FLAG PIN?

“I do not support Palin’s claim that she can see Russia so she has foreign policy experience. But I do have problem with MSM ridiculing her when the same MSM was gloating about the fact that Obama grew up in Indonesia(when he was 6 for god’s sake) qualifies him better than Hillary Clinton.”
It probably doesn’t qualify for foreign policy experience, but don’t you think Alaska has to keep a particular eye on Russia, especially now, since they just invaded Georgia? But someone who needs 300 foreign policy advisors probably didn’t have much experience in that area either.

More needs to be known about Obama’s role in ACORN. Not just the voter fraud portion, but his role in ACORN Housing and its contribution to the financial meltdown. A website called the mouth peace has a great video out there.
Jake, do a story on this…I won’t hold my breath.

Donna Hughes – it’s amazing that people actually buy into the constant spin of these campaigns. You hold Biden up as an example of Obama’s promise of a contrarian cabinet? Are you serious? This is the same guy who claimed to be the ultimate DC outsider. Yet Biden is about as comfortably inside the beltway as you can get. And his contrarian views?? I haven’t heard a peep of disagreement since he was chosen to run with BO.
Here’s the thing – all the ‘contrarians’ are simply pandering to a different group of constituents than Obama. Their views will magically ‘change’ if chosen for the cabinet. Why? 2 words – political expediency. Today’s politicians are slaves to the polls. Their not leaders, but simply well-informed puppets. You can’t compare to Lincoln’s world – news and opinion traveled through physical routes, not virtual networks. Hence, leaders used their judgment first and answered to their constituents later…

Palin comes to this debate to attack Biden and Obama armed with the dullest sword ever imagined by humanity. Biden’s only task tonight is to not laugh in her face. Can you imagine how hard it was for Couric not to laugh during their interviews. And the amazing thing is Palin kept coming back for more. It was like watching Homer Simpson…how many times is he going to try lick the frozen flagpole in one episode. Republicans should really be ashamed for trying to jam this ticket down the throats of Americans.

I’ve read Seven Pillars of Wisdom, Donna. I don’t recommend it because about three quarters of the way through it, it becomes cloying and full of self-pity and self-loathing. Deadly boring.
Most have seen the movie and few have read the book, so it is better to use a common reference than an obscure one. It avoids alienation through smugness.
Biden may be your gazelle, but it is Obama who will be the herd leader. So a bit of humor for you to point out why you might want to consider a common approach the people can get behind over the ivy leaguer we-own-america approach:
The fastest gazelle rises early to outrun the slowest gazelle.
The fastest lion rises early to chase the slowest gazelle.
The lazy hunter rises at noon, loads a gun, and shoots the fastest lion before shooting the slowest gazelle.
The slowest lion waits in the bush for the hunter to reload.
The crafty vulture patiently waits to feed on the slowest gazelle, the fastest lion, or the lazy hunter.
Be the middle gazelle.

Palin just by showing up at the Debate wins, when the moderator is more in the bed (figurely) then her opponent with the top of the ticket then Palin wins for showing the courage for still debating.
sp What makes you think Obama can handle any of that you say since he has far less experience then Palin who has the same if not more then Bill Clinton had when he took office!!
What does a Community Organizer do other then set up parades for the town!!

Why did the Des put on earmarks totaling over 200 Billion dollars in the bailout bill. Thank God Republicans stood up to it and stop the majority of the earmarks!!

Will Someone get a true answer from Obama other then ‘Change’
What does Obama know about executive problems, he cant even take a stand on anything other then allowing babies to die!!

Mew: From MEW:
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Will SOMEONE ask Mr. McCain exactly what evidence he can offer as proof that HE KNOWS HOW TO WIN WARS? He is the only person in the world who calls the situation in Iraq a war won. He loves the way it sounds “I know how to win wars!!!” flailing his arm and that glassy watery stare–and everyone smiles? The man is suffering delusions of grandeur.
Posted by: Mew | Oct 2, 2008 11:19:02 AM
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Mew, This is MEW, don’t get us confused.
I am on the other side. Just wait for another attack and see what your anoited one will do.

Spock Wrote
“Spsp What makes you think Obama can handle any of that you say since he has far less experience then Palin who has the same if not more then Bill Clinton had when he took office!!”
This statement is beyond laughable! It’s my favorite current neocon attack/defense. We don’t want your “everywoman” who duped her way into the Alaska governor’s mansion potentially running our executive branch. Your simple understanding of “experience” is frightening. The recent comparisons of the experience of Truman and Clinton to Palin are shameful. Both men were/are great minds with intense intellectual curiosity, well versed in classical educational experience, translated into a comprehensive worldview, similar to Obama. Palin’s experience (and intellectual capacity) are much more in line with that of Dubya, and look where that’s gotten us?

This is such an easy argument to throw back at Gov. Palin. Obama explained the timetable and “blank check concerns to Bush” in the last debate, and people will either agree or disagree with the troop funding issue.
But as someone mentioned in an earlier post…how does McCain defend his vote AGAINST the expansion of benefits and assistance to veterans by Sen. Webb?
Biden should simply state that he disagreed with Obama back then, but that he understood Obama’s point and his previous votes in favor of troop funds demonstrates that. What is Mccain’s record on assisting veterans? Shouldn’t we take as much care of our soldiers in the battlefield as those who came home from the battlefield?

len,
The fact that you didn’t have the gumption to read all of SPOW, says a lot. I’m sorry you didn’t find it a very good read. There are, however, a number of people out here who would disagree with you. Many of Lawrence’s observations in the Arab Revolt in WW1 are still pretty applicable today in Iraq. General Petraeus is a reader of Lawrence and it is Lawrence’s principles of paying and working with the local sheiks that have been one of the three reasons why things are calmer in Iraq. Joe Biden’s plan for Iraq was also one that took history into account, and though it was never officially used, Iraq has pretty much settled into three states along sectarian lines with local control being encouraged, and a federal government overseeing the national concerns (perhaps some day).
All in all, I’d say that TE Lawrence is still more relevant than you are! And refering to popular movie, which was the version of events that was filtered through David Lean’s own particular baggage, rather than the actual material is misleading.

Did ya notice McCain wasn’t wear a flag on his lapel in the first debate??
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Does he really need to wear that after all the years he has served for this country? Not only he is patriotic but also his father and grandfather. All (3) of them served this country and I want to see him at the white house. Call me narrow minded or childish, I don’t want to see someone whose father ccame to American, took all the best (education at University of Hawaii and Harvard and two beautiful white American women)and didn’t even served this country and didn’t even pay tax to tthis country. Also left his two wives with no child support.

‘General Petraeus is a reader of Lawrence and it is Lawrence’s principles of paying and working with the local sheiks that have been one of the three reasons why things are calmer in Iraq. Joe Biden’s plan for Iraq was also one that took history into account, and though it was never officially used,……’
Posted by: Donna Hughes | Oct 2, 2008 11:36:12 AM
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Donna, Joe is a master on history, hum… don’t think I would be quoting him so readily. Remmber FDR being on TV?

mary.jane : Your argument is ironic, considering McCain’s refusal to release his medical records. With his four malignant skin cancer relapses, statistically there’s only a 38% chance he’ll survive through 2010. And that’s only one of his conditions that we know about. I for one, do not think our country would be safe in the hands of “President Palin.”
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At least skin cancer is not as scary as hiding facts about Obama…. No one can say 100% sure that he’ll die while he’s in the office if he wins. I’m sure there can even be his second term. Look at his mother, who is 96 but looks like 76. I’m glad to say that McCain’s team didn’t come out with “fight McCain’s health rumors” website.
If McCain wins, Palin will have (4) yers of VP experience and if he wins the second term, Palin will have (8) years of experience. Then, she’ll be ready to run for President. She is still alot better than Obama, who talks bbig with little experience. Consider that, he loves himself too much that he wrote (2) memoirs about him at the age of 44. Writing memoirs and book signign tours and this campaign took (3) years of his senate term.

Ben wrote: Barak Obama seems to me to be the quintessential American success story — mixed-race son of a single mother uses his intelligence and work ethic to get a superlative education. Instead of turning his talents into a high income job in business, he works to improve his country at the local community level. His talents are recognized and he rises through politics to be a candidate for president of the nation.
Isn’t that the fabled American dream we’re all supposed to share and admire, Flag Pin?
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Ooop….are you talking about his father Barak Obama Sr? I was talking about Obama Sr. not Jr.

Donna sez: “The fact that you didn’t have the gumption to read all of SPOW, says a lot.”
I know when to put down a text when the author strays into self-pitying irrelevancies. Everything you say about Petraeus is true. He is a fine general and his surge tactics snatched victory from the certain defeat that Obama was satisified with for his own deeply flawed agenda.
Every serious military man reads SPoW but they understand that Lawrence was a deeply flawed man who used the Arabs for his own deeply flawed purposes. The lessons you mention are all covered in the first quarter of the book.
Anyone who would imitate TE’s character would be a self-sadistic soul. He was talented but a fool’s fool. Providence saw to it Petraeus was cut from different cloth.

“You have your opinions, and you are entitled to them. I have mine, to which I am entitled. Neither of them are graven into stone as absolute truths.”
On that, we have consensus, Ms. Hughes. Thanks for the exchange. It’s rewarding to do this with someone who does read the harder texts.

Donna Hughes:
‘General Petraeus is a reader of Lawrence and it is Lawrence’s principles of paying and working with the local sheiks that have been one of the three reasons why things are calmer in Iraq. Joe Biden’s plan for Iraq was also one that took history into account, and though it was never officially used,……’
Posted by: Donna Hughes | Oct 2, 2008 11:36:12 AM
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Donna, Joe is a master on history, hum… don’t think I would be quoting him so readily. Remmber FDR being on TV?

Ah, good ol’ Geevill back again to malign Joe Biden. Same old, same old.
MEW makes much of small things.

“If Ifill thinks questioning her conflict of interest (she stands to make millions if Obama wins) is racial or racist then that alone is a red flag for me. If she says she doesn’t understand why that would concern people, she is either a liar and unethical or foolish and out of touch. Since she played the race card, I think she is all of the above.
Ifill didn’t tell the commision about her pro-Obama book (book also touts Axelrod’s other protege, Deval Patrick), and so the commision should remove her or Ifill should announce a full disclosure statement at beginning of debate so that the viewers know.”

Staged “debate” dance now ready for 24/7 consumption.
Bailout Barack Obama w/partner Bailout John McCain.
Full-spectrum media suppression/distortion
target Ralph Nader and Ron Paul.
Your vote is your power,
they fear it, use it.

Ben writes: “Barak Obama seems to me to be the quintessential American success story”
You gotta be kidding me!
A guy who uses his college education to become a “community organizer,” and from there goes right into politics, is the “quintessential American success story”???
Since when?
“Community Organizer” is just a euphemism for “political agitator”.
And politicians produce NOTHING. They generate no wealth. They make no scientific discoveries. All they do is run for office.
The “quintessential American success story” is a guy who CREATES something: A car (Henry Ford). A Polaroid camera (Edwin Land). Or a guy who SOLVES something: How to make liquid-fueled rockets (Robert Goddard).
“Community organizers” and politicians are drones. They organize and redistribute the wealth produced by the productive in our society.