By Arnab Datta

Oct 7, 2008 11:15pm

Debating McCain Reference to “That One”

ABC News’ Teddy Davis and Arnab Datta Report: Part way through Tuesday’s debate, Obama press secretary Bill Burton emailed reporters asking: "Did John McCain just refer to Obama as ‘that one’?"

"Folks are going to remember that," Burton told ABC News in a separate email.

Showing the power of a well-timed email, McCain’s reference to Obama as "that one" became a topic of discussion in the spin room following the debate.

Obama strategist David Axelrod called it "odd."

"Senator Obama has a name," said Axelrod. "You’d expect your opponent to use that name."

Asked about the Obama campaign’s effort to draw attention to the reference, McCain adviser Steve Schmidt sought to brush it off.

"I think it is diversionary on their part," said Schmidt, referring to the Obama campaign.

McCain’s "that one" reference came when the Arizona senator was contrasting his opposition to the 2005 Bush energy bill which was, in McCain’s words, "loaded down with goodies, billions for the oil companies," with Obama’s support for the measure.

"You know who voted for it? You might never know. That one," said McCain, gesticulating towards Obama. "You know who voted against it? Me."

Tuesday’s town-hall style presidential debate took place on the campus of Belmont University in Nashville, Tenn.

It was moderated by NBC’s Tom Brokaw.

Career gadfly Philip Berg has a new conspiracy theory — Barack Obama’s actually an African.
Berg, a 64-year-old Montgomery County attorney who in 2004 filed an unsuccessful federal lawsuit accusing the Bush administration of involvement in the Sept. 11 attacks, made the claim in another federal suit.
Obama is lying about his U.S. citizenship, Berg’s suit asserts, and actually was born in Kenya, according to Obama’s grandmother, brother and sister. Only U.S. citizens by birth can be president.
Berg’s proof? Widely debunked online accounts.
“Obama cheated his way into a fraudulent candidacy and cheated legitimately eligible natural born citizens from competing in a fair process …” Berg says in the complaint.
The lawsuit offers several scenarios:
Obama was born in Kenya. His mother is a U.S. citizen. Normally, her citizenship would transfer to the baby. But the suit says it doesn’t in his case because the law at the time obligated her to spend at least five years after age 14 in the U.S. She had him at age 18.
Even if Obama was born in Hawaii as a U.S. citizen, the suit says, he later lost his citizenship when he moved with his mother to Indonesia and she remarried.
The lawsuit was filed last week in Philadelphia against Obama, the Democratic National Committee and the Federal Election Commission.
At least one independent watchdog group has rejected as spurious claims against Obama’s U.S. citizenship: FactCheck.org.
“If this in any way had the slightest tinge of legitimacy,” said Mitchell Bunkin, a political science professor at Bucks County Community College, “[Obama's] opponents would have blown this up.”
Democratic consultant Dan Fee says Berg should be forced to pay all court fees and legal fees for everyone in the case “when it gets dismissed.”
“It’s a silly lawsuit,” Fee said. “People like that should go back to hunting for the abominable snowman. It’s just a waste of everyone’s time.”
In response to previous citizenship challenges, Obama’s campaign has posted his birth certificate, showing he was born in Hawaii on Aug. 4, 1961, on the campaign Web site.
Berg’s suit claims that the birth certificate posted on Obama’s Web site is “altered and forged.” FactCheck.org said it sent staffers to examine the original certificate and concluded it was authentic.
Berg is a Democrat who supported Hillary Clinton, lives in Lafayette Hill and served as deputy state attorney general from 1972 to 1980. He has unsuccessfully run for governor, state Senate, Montgomery County commissioner and the Colonial School Board in Plymouth Meeting.
Berg’s blog indicates he has spoken about his 9/11 lawsuit in cities around the world.
He could not be reached for comment Wednesday, and the Obama campaign did not respond to a request for comment. The Federal Election Commission said it was unfamiliar with the case and couldn’t comment.
Charles Miller, a spokesman for the U.S. Department of Justice, said he’s unaware of any other federal suit challenging Obama’s citizenship.
Berg asked a federal judge Friday to suspend Obama’s candidacy pending resolution of the case. U.S. District Judge R. Barclay Surrick shot down that request, but ordered the Democratic National Committee and the FEC to respond by Oct. 21 to Berg’s lawsuit.
kevin.amerman@mcall.com
610-820-6510
GRAPHIC: Headshot of Berg;Photo By Berg
LOAD-DATE: August 29, 2008

User Comments

The choice is quite easy:
McCain: Tax cuts for the wealthy and big corporations and none for those making less than $100,000 a year. (and yet he says he is for ‘main street’)
Obama: Tax cuts for the majority of working Americans, modest increases for those earning $200,000 or more a year (less than they were under Clintons tax plan)
McCain: Shift health coverage to deregulated private sector with fixed tax credit to all income levels, more Americans would lose coverage (and again, favors the wealthy)
Obama: Provide an additional insurance carrier that would allow more people to get insurance, and with tax cuts to employers providing coverage saving them an annual $140 billion, which would also increase revenue for health providers by increasing insured patients.
McCain: Wants congress to investigate Enron loophole (even though congress has already tried twice to pass bills that would close it, and both were vetoed by Bush)
Obama: Wants to close enron loophole right away, causing an immediate drop in gas prices for all Americans
McCain: Wants to drill for more oil, and build nuclear plants (even though we would not see any output from them for 7-10 years)
Obama: Faster shift towards alternative energy sources and better utilization of existing resources.
McCain: a D- student with a navy background that was dismal in both character and quality (read his book!)
Obama: a Harvard Law school graduate, magna cum laude, and a constitutional law expert
McCain: Military shoot first ask questions later foreign policy stance
Obama: Diplomacy and dialog with military as option of last resort
McCain: No foriegn policy experience except for armed services
Obama: Member foreign relations, Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, and subcommitties on European, East Asian and Pacific, African affairs as well as International development and security, specalized in International Relations in college.
McCain: Vast majority of introduced bills in Senate are directly related to the military.
Obama: Introduced bills for equal rights, environment, housing, health care, alternative and renewable fuels, safer drugs, constitutional rights, improved fuel economy and other issues relating to a better America and helping Americans.
Looking at the issues and what they would mean to our country, you would have to be as dumb as Bush to not vote for Obama.

Posted by: Bennie | October 7, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm

“That One” is what old white people refer to black people as when they don’t want to be bothered with their name. It drums up alot of harsh memories.

Posted by: Courtney Bryant | October 7, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm

Seriously. Are you kidding me?
I’m an outsider (from India on a biz tour).. and watching someone standing for the highest office in this country say such low words shows the character of the person.
John McCain pointed a pinger and was not even looking. Its very disrespectful.
People of the United States of America, the whole world is looking at you.. Don’t screw up this time.

Posted by: Patel | October 7, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm

“That one” is a dehumanizing reference to The Other. Just more of McCain/Palin appealing to their bigoted “base”.

Posted by: Essbee | October 7, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm

Obama folks have lost all their trick so playing low. Humm what a change!

Posted by: Tim | October 7, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm

McCain kept using the sentence
“I KNOW HOW TO DO IT” several times,
but elaborated little of how he
will do it.

Posted by: FM | October 7, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm

I wouldn’t say it was racist. Rude, yeah, damn rude. Seems to become the typical modus operandi of the Election 2008. First Hillary was bashing others for their ‘inexperience’ (a strategy which failed by the way), and now McCain is doing it.
If he just stuck to his guns instead of trying to be “snappy” and “zingy” – he’s running for the President of the United States, not the host of the Daily Show. WTF.

Posted by: Chicka | October 7, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm

who cares?? This is absolutly ridiculous, lets talk about the issues at hand, not how they refer to eachother!!!

Posted by: Laura | October 7, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm

I watched it, I got it, it meant absolutely nothing….Obama camp trying to make something of nothing. Move on.

Posted by: hanna | October 7, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm

Insulting the opponent is the last thing a presidential candidate can do!!. Insulting Senator Obama (twice) without calling the name shows the character of Senator McCain. It’s very silly and childish.

Posted by: AJ | October 7, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm

Thanks for your service to our country John McCain. It’s over now.

Posted by: Tom H. | October 7, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm

“That one”? That’s it! McCain the chameleon shows his true colors!

Posted by: tim | October 7, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm

just show behind close doors McInsane is a piece of work…he tries hard to behave infornt the camera.
last thing we need a derange man around the nuclear football.

Posted by: sam | October 7, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm

Yes, I’m surprised none of the analysts picked up on the racist meaning of calling someone “one” or “that one.” Here in Georgia some old white men from McCain’s generation still refer to black individuals as “the one” or “that one” and sometimes “boy.” Everyone in my house perked up when he said that. We were very surprised none of the analysts knew the old Southern meaning of calling a black man “that one.”

Posted by: Lucas Duchamp | October 7, 2008, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm

FM, you nailed it. Not racist. Just disrespectful and inappropriate. He has a bad temper and its starting to show on stage.

Posted by: Scott | October 7, 2008, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm

McCain is getting more and more grumpy each day. I think this one was way past his bed time.

Posted by: Ann | October 7, 2008, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm

I was totally offended when Sen. McCain refered to Obama as that, I actually thought I was the only one that caught it but it seems many did aswell. It was totally condescending in tone, McCain might not agree on policy but Barack is still a US Senator and should be respected as one.

Posted by: Jamar | October 7, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm

OK based on the comments here I did not dream about it. He did call him “THAT ONE” . Ok that about done it for me. We do not need an angry, old, senile, erratic, gambler jeopardizing our economy and international image any more. Mccain’s anger is dangerous. Can you imagine him in a world summit representing our country!

Posted by: yoye777 | October 7, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm

OK based on the comments here I did not dream about it. He did call him “THAT ONE” . Ok that about done it for me. We do not need an angry, old, senile, erratic, gambler jeopardizing our economy and international image any more. Mccain’s anger is dangerous. Can you imagine him in a world summit representing our country!

Posted by: yoye777 | October 7, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm

Let me guess: Racist, right?

Posted by: Jim Treacher | October 7, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm

Posted by: tim | October 7, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm

What’s your name boy? “Kuta Kenta”. No your name is “That One”. Now, what’s your name? “Senator Barak Obama.
Wow! You can’t sweep this one under the rug or say that it was just a “isolated incident”. “That One”!

Posted by: Dr. Moses, F. | October 7, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm

very low! and show he is out of touch with the times , he is not presidential material… never was.

Posted by: kelly | October 7, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm

The reference of “That One” towards Senator Obama made by Senator McCain shows great disrespect towards Senator Obama from Senator McCain. The slanderous verbage used towards Senator Obama from Governor Palin these last few days is a desparate attempt to regain the faith of the American people. Slandor will not win votes….Our economy has worsened over the last 8 years…why not focus on more important issues-the truth and not bs. We want change and it will come from Senator Obama!!

Posted by: Basanthi | October 7, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm

I am a Yankee and I knew what “that one” meant for his ‘uppity’ opponent.
McCain is just plain nasty and believes he is entitled to the Presidency. After all, he sold his soul to get it.

Posted by: susan | October 7, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm

Obama’s cult followers often refer to him as “The One.”
Leave it to those Kool-Aid drinkers to find a problem with someone creating a slight variation on their term.

Posted by: Lee | October 7, 2008, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm

How do people know McCain meant ‘that one’? He might have meant ‘That One’ – in reference to the self-proclaimed ‘The One’ of the Obama campaign.

Posted by: Obama-Yah-Wright | October 7, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm

OBAMA CALLED HIM “JOHN”… THEY ARE FRIENDS WHEN NOT RUNNING FOR OFFICE.
YOU NEVER SAID, “THAT ONE OVER THERE JUST CANT ..” TO PEOPLE YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH..
I HOPE REPUBLICANS ARE REGISTERING A LOT OF PEOPLE TO OFFSET THE DEMO PARTY REGISTRATION IN PRIMARIES…. I DONT THINK WE SHOULD EVEN BE LISTENING TO THE MEDIA.
IF ITS NOPT THIS , IT WILL BE RACISM.
MCCAIN/PALIN AND THE REPUBLICAN PARTY DO WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO TO GET THE VOTES OUT AND SILENCE THESE FOOLS..

Posted by: TJ, THE CLINTONITE | October 7, 2008, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm

McCain also says he’s going to buy all these mortgages from these morons who bough more house than they could afford at inflated values only a fool would believe. That’s as bad or worse than bailing out the greedy thieves on Wall Street. What about those of us who DIDN’T buy those houses because we knew they were overpriced? If someone had told me that in 3 years the “gubment” would come and pay off part of my house, I would have purchased it! So our tax dollars are going to bail out these idiots? If my neighbor gets $80,000 knocked off his mortgage, I want $80,000 knocked off mine! JUST SAY NO to John McCain’s crazy, reckless waste of tax dollars.

Posted by: Martin | October 7, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm

That my number reason why I don’t want Obama in the white house. As a black person I think that he will set back race relations decades.
McCain said that one. If Obama had been white no one would have cared but since Obama is black anything you could say to a white person while talking to them have to be analyzed to death and found to be racists just because.
Yeah, of all the debate things that were discussed economy, war but that one is what the Obama campaign wants to focus one.

Posted by: coolrepublica | October 7, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm

That one, as in, the second debate. What did you think I meant?
(BTW: McCain uses “that one” frequently in his stump speeches; the set-up is usually clearer, as McCain refers to Obama’s being one of the senators who supported it, not McCain — as in, if you had to guess who supported the Bush-Cheney ’05 energy bill, it’s that senator, not this senator. But it came off awkwardly on stage tonight.)
McCain was referring to Obama as a senator and then said this one didn’t vote for it.
The cameras cut away when McCain said this one.
McCain then referred to him as this one.
McCain has the worst luck the camera shots took him out of context.

Posted by: Jeff | October 7, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm

Hey let’s talk about Tom Brokaw — what a spoiler — I think this should be his last moderation — He was overly pushy…He only made references to time when Sen Obama was about to speak…he was to flexible with Sen McCain and he on numerous ocassions thanked Sen McCain for his anws but never did he thank Sen Obama…this was not my imagination…he also became too involve and stole the thunder of the Town Hall paticipants. where is Walter Conkite when u need him

Posted by: bellgirl | October 7, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm

It was to be expected. McCain and Palin seem to feed off hate and trash talk, Palin especially. McCain may be worth $100 million, but I won’t vote for someone with no class.

Posted by: joesmom | October 7, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm

To Jake Tapper,
McCain was noting the ironic vote on a Bush Cheney sponsored bill. He (rhetorically) asked the audience to guess which one of the 2 candidates standing there at town hall voted FOR the bill? The answer – “that one” (i.e. meaning that candidate, the democrat) and the one who voted AGAINST the bill — “this one” (i.e. this candidate, the republican.) The vote is in fact ironic (and telling) and it was not disrespectful as stated.
McCain uses this all the time he said that senator didn’t vote for it this one did.
McCain was using shorthand for that senator.
McCain said that one.
McCain says this all the time in his stump speeches.
McCain then referred to himself as this one didn’t vote for it.
McCain said that senator that one didn’t vote for it this one referring to himself did vote for it.
McCain has the worst luck. He is being taken out of context.

Posted by: Jeff | October 7, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm

Can any of you imagine if Obama shows such an arrogant towards McCain? Obama would never be this low. McCain’s inside is ugly.

Posted by: leighg1 | October 7, 2008, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm

McCain says this all the time in his stump speeches on the bush energy vote.
McCain says that senator didn’t vote for it this one did.
McCain was saying that senator did vote for it this one didn’t.
The cameras cut away when McCain said this one did vote for it referring to himself.
McCain said that one didn’t vote for it short hand for that senator didn’t vote for it and this one did vote for it.

Posted by: Jeff | October 7, 2008, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm

Obama took advantage of McCain’s war injuries in e-mail ad.
Obama blamed Clinton for Bhutto assasination.
Obama called Bill Clinton racist.
Obama blamed McCain for the floods in the midwest.

Posted by: Jeff | October 7, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm

That one was short hand for that senator.
The cameras cut away and McCain said this one didn’t.
McCain referred to himself as this one.
The camermas cut away right when he said it.
All McCain said was that senator voted for the bush energy bill and he didn’t vote for it.
That senator did this senator didn’t.
That one did this one didn’t.
McCain referred to himself as this one.
He says this all the time in his stump speeches.

Posted by: Jeff | October 7, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm

Obama clearly. McCain and Palin are showing their ture racist and “entitlement mentality” faces. We no longer have to speculate whether or not they think the poor, milddle class, minority, women (especially those who married up or inherited money, or those of us who earn under $200k (I only wish) aren’t worth the toliet paper they use to wipe themselves with after a good crap!

Posted by: Lartha J. Downes | October 7, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm

Not sure how 40% of the country doesn’t get it. McCain is NOT worthy of being president. He thinks he’s entitled to something. I hope he loses his senate seat. He’s entitled to go home at this point.

Posted by: J Diaz | October 7, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm

I watched the debate online, and someone forgot to turn off Brokaw’s mic. Oh was *that* entertaining. I second the trap door idea!
Yeah, he was pushy and sarcastic, but I think like alot of Americans, he was just tired of hearing the same crap we’ve been fed the last couple elections, and just wanted them to answer ONE SINGLE QUESTION with an answer that RELATES to the actual question at hand.
I thought he threw in a couple curveballs that tripped them up too – especially the “Who would you select as the next Treasury Secretary”. For all their ‘focus’ on the economy, neither had a ready answer, which I found telling.
Warren Buffett??! Meg Whitman? Since when is the treasury secretary responsible for job creation Sen McCain.

Posted by: Chicka | October 7, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm

“That One”? McCain is rude and disrespectful and comes across as a racist and sore loser. Do we want someone like McCain to be in the White House ? Sure he have served the country in the war. That doesnt automatically give him the right and the ticket to the White House !

Posted by: Sue | October 7, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm

I am outraged that Senator McCain, against the ropes, lowered himself to such a diminished stature by using a racially insensitive reference. I decided my vote tonight. Senator Obama carried himself with the dignity and leadership that the Office of President so acutely needs.

Posted by: Edward Shuherk, MD | October 7, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm

I have lived my entire life in the South and have been around both older black people and older white people. Don’t get me wrong…I’ve heard people on both sides referencing the other in racist and off-color language, but I have never heard white people deemingly refer to a black person as “that one” because they didn’t want to respect or bother to remember his/her name. Now you are just making things up to make it sound like McCain or anyone who bothers to challenge Obama is a racist.

Posted by: bkm | October 7, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm

Yes, especially coupled with the hate mongering rhetoric that has been coming out of his campaign directed toward Obama. The fact that McCain voted against the Martin Luther King Jr. holiday. McCain has shown that this is a cultural problem that he has with Obama.

Posted by: Sariel | October 7, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm

The character of a person running for the highest office in America is IMMENSELY important. What do you guys make of Bush’s arrogant smirks, his eye-widening dumbfounded looks that someone would question his lies.
Yes, that one IS disrespectful at the very least.
I cannot BELIEVE that Replubicans are trying to dismiss this insult.
Will you guys never admit to the truth!
McCain not only referred to him as “that one”; he refuses to look him in the eye, and failed to shake his hand at the end of the debate, tapping him on the shoulder and then pushing his wife out in front and walking away.
He is not professional enough to even HIDE his disdain for Obama.
Yeah, let’s put another arrogant a$$ in the White House.

Posted by: Ameera | October 7, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm

Besides McCain’s refering to Sen Obama as “that one” their campaign as a whole is rotten. Look at Palin – she by talking about Ayers and keeping media out is walking on thin ice invoking to a point of racism. It is about time she shut up her attacks. She does not have the intellect to talk about the issues and that is why she keeps talking about Ayers. She will be back at her old job in less than 4 weeks. She may as well start planning her moose hunting trips.

Posted by: silkwool | October 7, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm

Yeah, that was crass.
McCain’s up against a smooth (well, other than the stammering) operator, and you would think that his advisers would have made him realize that by now.
For the second time Obama brought up the Iraqi surplus…neither has anything more to say about that…lean on the mothers and make them at least pick up a big chunk of the tab for our forces from now on.
McCain also didn’t respond to Obama’s charges of deregulation. McCain should have pointed out that Fannie and Freddie were exempt from normal oversight and that regulating purely private enterprises is not the same thing. I would have thought McCain would have figured out to bring that up since he didn’t at the first debate.
Other than that, pretty much the same talking points from both candidates.

Posted by: Grand Old Party | October 7, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm

gfgf

Posted by: Linda/Michigan | October 7, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm

I pledged to run a respectful campaign.

Posted by: John McScum | October 7, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm

McCain is NOT an honorable man! I don’t care how much he thinks he is, HE’S NOT! As a retired Navy Senior Chief Petty Officer and Desert Storm Veteran, I wouldn’t trust him one bit!! Those of you who think he’s “the one” can go ahead and waste your vote, but I for one will not. I’m voting for the best candidate running, OBAMA!

Posted by: Desert Storm Veteran | October 7, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm

That’s funny. I thought Obama’s campaign was going to play the race card much closer to election day.

Posted by: Steve Langford | October 7, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm

To call a fellow Senator “that one” is very disrespectful. I doubt if McCain would ever refer to Sen. Lieberman or Sen. Graham as “that one”, or, for that matter, Sen. Clinton.
His running mate, keeps referring to Sen. Obama as unAmerican, when it was her husband, who wanted Alaska to cede from the United States!!!

Posted by: Nancy V. | October 7, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm

The DAY has finally come.
The Deliverer has come.
OBAMA means “blessed.” In Arabic.
Our message will finally be delivered to everyone.
Thank you Brothers for being in our side. Lets rally for the chosen one.

Posted by: muslims4Obama | October 8, 2008, 12:01 am 12:01 am

It is a derogatory term referring to African Americans. The notion that they are lesser than human. Even dogs have names but Black people are lesser than dogs is what it is referring to historically speaking. Totally stereotypical,,, all black people look a like,,, point and just say, “That one”. It may be way out dated but that is what people should take from that statement.

Posted by: chris@pdx | October 8, 2008, 12:01 am 12:01 am

The post debate commentary on ABC was so incredibly partisan I had to change the channel. I mean really, no balance whatsoever! I was half expecting to see Dan Rather called in for his opinion…

Posted by: Steven | October 8, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am

Wow, I wonder how all the vietnam vets feel about that comment?
Not to honorable. Did you see his wife ignore Michelle? You knew it would come out sooner or later.
Sad

Posted by: Jobamatx | October 8, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am

If Obama referred to McCain as “that one” it would also be seen as rude.

Posted by: cincyr | October 8, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am

“That One” that McCain refers to
means “blessed.” In Arabic.
Lets rally behind OBAMA

Posted by: muslims4Obama | October 8, 2008, 12:05 am 12:05 am

Hey remember Obama called a female reporter sweetie.

Posted by: golfgirlusa | October 8, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am

I can’t wait until Hussein gets elected… we’ll never have to fight a war again… we’ll just simply go to the U.N. and complain that anyone picking on us is racist because our President is black.
No, no, no… not God BLESS America… God DAMN America… nice mentors you got there, Barry.

Posted by: TexasRainmaker.com | October 8, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am

The next time McCain calls Obama “That One” or any other term, Obama should just say, “They call me Mr. Tibbs”

Posted by: Linda | October 8, 2008, 12:10 am 12:10 am

ABC….YOU SUCK!!!
JUST LIKE THAT ONE…NBC, CBS, CNN.
“THIS ONE” IS FOR MCCSANE, NOT ZEROBAMA!!!

Posted by: mike | October 8, 2008, 12:11 am 12:11 am

John McCain was arrogant, patronizing and narcissistic tonight with the audience and with Senator Obama tonight. His hostility was barely contained. Every answer was an attack and every answer was followed with “I know how to fix this”, “I have the experience to fix this”–but of course no specifics. A desperate, eratic, tragic man using desparate tragic, transparent techniques.

Posted by: Peggy | October 8, 2008, 12:11 am 12:11 am

What’s that?…. singing?!….. Sure sounds like a fat lady…

Posted by: dem in chicago | October 8, 2008, 12:11 am 12:11 am

What’s that?…. singing?!….. Sure sounds like a fat lady…

Posted by: dem in chicago | October 8, 2008, 12:13 am 12:13 am

What’s that?…. singing?!….. Sure sounds like a fat lady…

Posted by: dem in chicago | October 8, 2008, 12:14 am 12:14 am

McCain is tired, desperate, and erratic indeed. It sure showed tonight.

Posted by: David Riker | October 8, 2008, 12:14 am 12:14 am

that one he called him that one. I’m so disappointed in John McCain as an African American I can’t believe that a man who wants to be president will refer to his opponent who is trying to prove is not like us would be referred to as that one
please stop the racism John McCain please put your country first and leave it alone

Posted by: Deshawn | October 8, 2008, 12:14 am 12:14 am

If this is what Obama’s campaign is talking about he must have very real well tonight?
Invite Ayers to the White House so he can blow that up to.

Posted by: Joe A. | October 8, 2008, 12:15 am 12:15 am

OBAMA IS A MUSLIM . THEY ARE WHO AMERICAIN ARE A WAR WITH. WAKE UP! NOTHING ELSE MATTERS! AMERICAN WAR HERO OR A MUSLIM ! BOY THATS A TUFF ONE . GIVE ME THE WAR HERO CHRISTIAN!!!!!! PLEASE

Posted by: RL | October 8, 2008, 12:15 am 12:15 am

ABC…YOU AND “THAT ONE” SUCK, JUST LIKE CNN, CBS, AND NBC.
THIS ONE IS VOTING FOR McCAIN, NOT ZEROBAMA!!!

Posted by: mike | October 8, 2008, 12:15 am 12:15 am

McCain is tired, desperate, and erratic indeed. It sure showed tonight.

Posted by: David Riker | October 8, 2008, 12:15 am 12:15 am

“That one.” ?!?!
Did anyone happen to catch the reaction from the African American gentleman sitting behind Obama when McCain said that? Clearly an offensive remark. Sadly, not surprising.

Posted by: KB | October 8, 2008, 12:15 am 12:15 am

At the end of the debate McShame did not have the decency to shake Obama’s outreached hand but motioned him towards his trophy wife to shake her hand. He did not want to soil himself by shaking “that one’s” hand. What disgusting old geezer. “You kids get off my lawn!”

Posted by: LarryB | October 8, 2008, 12:15 am 12:15 am

Let’s cool down Obamacons. Obama has been referred to “Jesus Christ, JFK, Lincoln, The Messiah, The One as in the Matrix, The All-Encompassing, The All-Knowing, The All-powerful”. That’s the one that McCain refers to. That’s the one the vote for the Bill with Bush/Cheney.

Posted by: young_voter | October 8, 2008, 12:16 am 12:16 am

McCain said we need a leader who will have a “steady hand on the tiller” and watch the debate, even as he said this, HIS HAND WAS SHAKING!
Guess I’ll have to do what McCain says and vote for “Steady Hand” Obama.

Posted by: Eddy | October 8, 2008, 12:16 am 12:16 am

The Democratic Party is a big tent party. It attracts people with diverse backgrounds and viewpoints. The Republican Party is a small tent party. Its tent consists of a white sheet with two holes cut out to see through.

Posted by: hamishdad | October 8, 2008, 12:17 am 12:17 am

How many times did I hear McCain say I know how to do…? We make decisions and judgement based not only on past and current event but more importantly, based on future’s developing environment. Don’t public service have a training on how to solve problems? In this comment, I fear that same old things coming in next four years..if McCain is in the White House.

Posted by: Toots | October 8, 2008, 12:17 am 12:17 am

baah baah baah baah baah bra-ann
bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran
bye-bye-bye, bye bye McCain

Posted by: beach bunny | October 8, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am

Obama must have looked like the empty suit he is cuz here goes the race card.

Posted by: Joe A. | October 8, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am

WAKE UP AMERICANS !!!!!!!! GET YOUR HEAD OUT YOU BUTTS AND LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE TO VOTE FOR. MUSLIMS ARE OUT TO KILL AMERICANS AND AMERICANS WANT TO PUT OBAMA IN THE HIGHEST OFFICE IN AMERICA !!!!!!!!!!! WAKE UP!!!!!!!!! HE IS A MUSLIM

Posted by: RL | October 8, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am

Oh yeah, about the “that one” comment. McCain in his stump speeches and on many other occasions will use “this one” and “that one” to contrast differing positions on issues and different votes. Obama isn’t the first opposing view to be referenced this way, and there’s nothing racist about it – that’s just stupid (I’m black, BTW).
Now, was it disrespectful? Each person will no doubt decide for him/herself, but I’ve seen that dyed-in-the-wool democrats – the type of people who weren’t EVER going to vote for McCain under ANY circumstances – will jump on any excuse for their positions. The same people who excused Bill Clinton’s pecadillos will hop on a simple comment like this one as if it was the greatest sin ever committed by a human being and ride it all the way to the nearest sunset – as if it has ANYTHING at all to do with a person’s character, qualifications or capabilities.

Posted by: Steven | October 8, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am

I knew the left would focus on this and shout “RACISM!” from the rooftops.
Let me tell you about racism.
I’m black. And I’m a Republican.
When other blacks learn my party affiliation, I often hear the term “Uncle Tom” tossed my way.
You know, that I’m a ‘race-traitor’.
Whites and other minorities just give me a puzzled look. “Republican? But you’re black. Don’t you know any better?”
When Democrats learn that I’m a Republican, all of their vaunted tolerance ebbs away.

Posted by: John Reichs | October 8, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am

“the one” refers to Obama’s slimy friend like : Wright, Ayers, Rezko, Pfleger

Posted by: NOBAMA | October 8, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am

I’m going to enjoy grinding my heel into the McCain-Pailin ticket for the next three weeks. The ash heap of history awaits both of them, especially the sad, broken McCain.

Posted by: David Riker | October 8, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am

Jeff get a life…please. The McCain/Palin campaign has played the race card for months — and get away without being called out. This time they are called out. It won’t work even though they think desperate times call for desperate means…Let’s talk after the electon shall we.

Posted by: bellgirl | October 8, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am

Vote Obama 2008. Thousands of terrorists are depending on it. Remember if Iran nukes Israel Obama is right, diplomacy will work it all out.

Posted by: Jake | October 8, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am

Not smart – Andrew Sullivan already has the campaign button posted at THE ATLANTIC.
THAT ONE/
Biden 08

Posted by: Paige | October 8, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am

Your correct Big Tent includes terrorists.

Posted by: Joe A. | October 8, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am

Why was this not brought oup in the debate:
*ALERT: BARACK OBAMA STARTED HIS POLITICAL CAREER IN THE HOME OF A TERRORIST THAT BOMBS U.S. BUILDINGS & KILLED 2 POLICE OFFICERS IN THE BRINKS HOLD-UP ->>BILL AYERS

Posted by: John from FL | October 8, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am

Truly shocking even for an angry old codger with very bad manners -hopefully not racist, but I guess only McCain knows that answer to ‘that one.’

Posted by: Debbi Atkinson | October 8, 2008, 12:22 am 12:22 am

That’s funny. I thought Obama’s campaign was going to play the race card much closer to election day. Posted by: Steve Langford
******************************
Looks like McCain is the flush, with an
empty suit.

Posted by: spacerook1 | October 8, 2008, 12:23 am 12:23 am

Two Debates…Two rather convincing wins by Obama. How did the Republicans ever nominate such a weak, erratic, stumbling candidate as McCain? Wow.

Posted by: Rick | October 8, 2008, 12:24 am 12:24 am

All you left wing nut cases need to get Husseins nuts out of your mouths and come back to reality.
Crying about this comment is retarded, just like all you liberals are. Suck It.

Posted by: Hoo Ha | October 8, 2008, 12:24 am 12:24 am

OBAMA DONT EVEN PLEDGE TO THE FLAG !!!1 HELLO OR TAKE A OATH ON THE BIBLE. HELLO WAKE UP AMERICANS

Posted by: RL | October 8, 2008, 12:24 am 12:24 am

Oprah called him “The One”
That’s the problem with “The ONe”. Every criticism is racist. People I know do not dare put McCain bumper stickers on their cars. Bringing up Ayers racist? No way.
Obama is radical. Anyone who has not picked up on this is not paying attention. As he has no record, we can only look at where he comes from and what his associations are.
If I have to have major surgery, I want an experienced doctor.
I think Obama supporters are prejudiced against older Americans. The older population is beginning to resent these comments. Obama has called him “dishonorable”. That is a lot worse than “That One”

Posted by: gail | October 8, 2008, 12:24 am 12:24 am

So they wanted McCain to give Obama a name instead of saying “that one”. Well he could have said. “BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA!” Don’t think they would have liked that. You can’t win with these people no matter what you say. Maybe he should have said “That Holy One”!!

Posted by: Lynne | October 8, 2008, 12:24 am 12:24 am

Sounds like an old grumpy grandpa upset and don’t want to be bothered with….still, disrespectful.

Posted by: N | October 8, 2008, 12:24 am 12:24 am

I couldn’t believe an experienced senator, who is in the Senate, for 36 years making such a rude comment. I think there is a hidden agenda and it was a planned attack. I would say that comment was not presidential at all. We could say let us forget it and focus on issues. But that one was a way above the limits.
This is the man, who made a very nasty comment about Chelsy Clinton and later apologized. Let us hope he will promptly do this time as well. There you go again McCain, one for you list of things you regretted after saying or doing it.

Posted by: Raj | October 8, 2008, 12:24 am 12:24 am

LOL I think McCain sounded like who he really is. An old grandpa who was pointing at one of the smarter, younger generation…which is one of the differences here. The past 8 years? or new ideas?
The choice is pretty plain if people are honest and stop blindly following party lines.
Something has to give, what we have had is not working. John McCain is more of the same.

Posted by: Debbie | October 8, 2008, 12:25 am 12:25 am

My Brother “RL”
This is the reason why we need OBAMA.
He will unite us and people like you will understand that we have the true message of PEACE.
Our message will finally be delivered to America.

Posted by: muslims4Obama | October 8, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am

What’s that?…. singing?!….. Sure sounds like a fat lady…

Posted by: dem in chicago | October 8, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am

And you NOBAMA…I say KEATING 5!!!!!!
and 7+++ houses hmmmm maybe 8…whatever whoever fights for the middle class and the poor and can look me in my eyes when they talk to me — have my vote

Posted by: bellgirl | October 8, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am

Racism? Yeah right when Wright and his lunatic church scream God Damn America, Hate Whitey, and KKK of A, to glorious applause and ecstatic reactions by the Congregation?
Racism is a word devoid of meaning. Playing the racist card at every opportunity won’t work against NutJob. He is racist. Proud of it. Putin too … he openly called Rice a monkey and made monkey noises at her, used the N-Word.
So wake up. Racism means nothing. Playing the racist card against tough guys like Putin or Nutjob makes them laugh cause they know you are weak.

Posted by: whiskey | October 8, 2008, 12:27 am 12:27 am

I think what McSame meant was, The One, as in Obama is the One.

Posted by: jose | October 8, 2008, 12:27 am 12:27 am

Yes, the term “that one” is frequently racist. I have lived in the South, some years ago, and older white people there sometimes used the term to dismissively refer to black people.
We cannot know whether racism was in McCain’s mind. I don’t support him, but I am inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.
But even the term isn’t racist, it is rude and dehumanizing — and idiotic. McCain desperately needs the support of undecided voters, and this latest display of contempt toward his opponent certainly didn’t win him any support.

Posted by: Alex | October 8, 2008, 12:28 am 12:28 am

Go ahead and use the race card, I for one am tired of it.

Posted by: Tina | October 8, 2008, 12:28 am 12:28 am

That One what?
I think we have the right to know what Senator McCain means by the term “That One”

Posted by: shane in washington | October 8, 2008, 12:28 am 12:28 am

ALL THE MUSLIMS IN THE WORLD ARE JUST WAITING FOR OBAMA TO GET THE KEY TO OPEN THE GATE TO AMERICA FOR THEM!!!! PLEASE WAKE UP AMERICA

Posted by: RL | October 8, 2008, 12:28 am 12:28 am

Bill Ayers, his friend, killed 2 people but were so upset about “That one” Oh my god not “That one”
I’m crying cuz I’m so affended.
While don’t we kill more unborn babies so I can feel better.

Posted by: Joe A. | October 8, 2008, 12:29 am 12:29 am

If all the cryin’ whiners and vote frauding idiots help Hussein get elected, grab your guns and hold onto them. Hussein will take your guns away!!!
He is a muslim and will make islam the national religion. Socialism will come to this country if that one is elected. He wants to be dictator and has been getting his mind numb followers ready for his rule. They will follow along while he destroys our country and turns it into his dream of an islamic state ruled by a traitor, who fooled millions.

Posted by: Rebel Rep | October 8, 2008, 12:29 am 12:29 am

And, Dave, Obama is going to enjoy grinding his heel into you if he is elected. How anybody can vote for a man named Barack Hussein Obama for President of the United States after 9/ll is beyond my wildest imagination. I didn’t know the American people could be so stupid. I don’t like McCain either but I’ll take him over a MUSLIM anytime!!!

Posted by: Lynne | October 8, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am

Thanks Debbie — you said a mouth full. When Sara Palin was placed on the McCain ticket I nolonger took his candidacy seriously. I have respect for her as a business woman wife and partial mother, but no way should the RNC try to pawn her off as Presidential–
give me a break, please. A Sad Day

Posted by: bellgirl | October 8, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am

Sounds like Gramps should have dumped out his Depends before the debate started. Maybe he would not have been so grumpy, confused and rude.

Posted by: Giovanni | October 8, 2008, 12:31 am 12:31 am

When McCain used “that one” to refer to Obama, it was not an attempt at humor. There is a subconscious racial undertone similar to his patronizing tone in the first debate when he accused Obama that “he does not understand”.
The Grumpy Old Man mindset is starting to show and it is just a matter of time before he blurts “get out of my lawn”.

Posted by: Lee | October 8, 2008, 12:32 am 12:32 am

MUSLIM4OBAMA IS OBAMA A MUSLIMS

Posted by: RL | October 8, 2008, 12:32 am 12:32 am

Another fine product of the US Council for World Peace & the Keting 5. Bigot and Racist John McCain showed his true colors today by insinuating the the black man, I think his name was Oliver, was clueless about freddie mac and fannie mae. And to point at Obama and calling him “that one” was absolutely conduct unbecoming of a presidential candidate. If McCain said “that one” to Kim-jung-il or Putin, we’d definitey be in more hot water. McSame & Failin seccesionist, racist people that are for themselves first and then the country.

Posted by: anonymous | October 8, 2008, 12:33 am 12:33 am

That one is a hater of our country.
His pastor, his wife, his friends, his followers, ALL RACISTS!!!!
CRY BABY CRY!!!
SUCK IT YOU LEFT WING NUTS!!!
GO TO HELL IN HUSSEINS HAND BASKET!!!

Posted by: Hater of Hussein | October 8, 2008, 12:34 am 12:34 am

Would hate to hear how he refer to Latinos. LONG LIVE OBAMA!!!!!

Posted by: parrada | October 8, 2008, 12:34 am 12:34 am

That One 08!

Posted by: NameySamey | October 8, 2008, 12:34 am 12:34 am

It surely was disrepectful. McCain should have called Obama “the annoited one”.

Posted by: Jan | October 8, 2008, 12:35 am 12:35 am

Are you KIDDING ME? “That one” offends you? Grow up people. I hear that all the time. You really need to allow these guys to be human. It just goes to show how competition brings out the worst (and MOST IMMATURE) in everyone. Again, GROW UP PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Grow Up! | October 8, 2008, 12:35 am 12:35 am

GOD BLESS AMERICA!! NOT ALI

Posted by: RL | October 8, 2008, 12:36 am 12:36 am

I’m so glad that McNasty took the gloves off tonight like he promised and let Obama have it- NOT! I predicted that McCain would be a wimp tonight, and he lived up to it. McCain = Loser. Again!
Game Over!

Posted by: Jack | October 8, 2008, 12:36 am 12:36 am

I think I’m going to throw up if I hear that word “racist” one more time. I have heard it since the 60′s and it never stops. And it’s weird how only whites can be racists. The rest are victims…I’m sick of victims too.

Posted by: Lynne | October 8, 2008, 12:36 am 12:36 am

I think McCain just seemed angry throughout. I also think his campaign probably refers to Obama as ‘the One’ and so this might have been a play on that. Clearly, McCain doesn’t respect Obama and he has a hard time hiding it.

Posted by: Say What? | October 8, 2008, 12:36 am 12:36 am

Hussein loves to ne called the one, why all the crying?
He is a chicago thug who has Acorn doing voter fraud for him.
All you followers of that one can go watch your msnbc and suck bam bam’s dong.

Posted by: HATER | October 8, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am

McCain probably really wanted to say, “and that SOB but caught himself just in time!!

Posted by: Lynne | October 8, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am

Really, you people need to stop crying “race! race!” at every negative comment made about Obama. Its untrue, its silly, and its overplayed. You can only cry wolf so many times. Hopefully, you racists who play the race card will wear out your welcome soon.

Posted by: TPSMN | October 8, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am

John McCain is a crazy old PRIC%!
He’s got a lot of nerve talking to our next President like that. Seriously, you might love America McCain, but Americans loathe you. Go away now crazy pissed off dinosaur! Go worship your Reagan shrine, and pour hot candle wax on your chest…or whatever it is that angry old loonies do.
It;s O—V—E—-R!!!

Posted by: Rebel YELL | October 8, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am

Yeah, pretty disrespectful. I’d give McCain a pass, but he said it with such vitriol and sarcasm that it came across as really awkward and disgusting. “That One” once again did well and looked Presidential. “That One”/Biden 08

Posted by: Alex | October 8, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am

AMERICA VOTE FOR MCCAIN…NOT FOR THE ANTICHRIST OBAMA

Posted by: RL | October 8, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am

look…i’m black, and when i heard, “that one,” i turned to my husband and said, “that one what? that monkey? what the hell does he mean, ‘that one’?”
are you kidding me? let’s not bother with how they refer to each other? so obama could’ve said, “this bee-atch right here…” and it would’ve been ok?

Posted by: dknight | October 8, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am

I thought the quote to be odd. It evokes a era in which “that boy” or “that one” could be used to describe Blacks. Poor tastes John. We didn’t need this now.
If John apologizes tommorow, it will blow over. If not, it will blow up.

Posted by: Sam Publican | October 8, 2008, 12:40 am 12:40 am

McCain has no respect for Obama. He called him “that one” and refuse to shake his “hand” after the debate. Like Bush, McCain sees his opponents like the world: who doen’t agree with me is an enemy.
McCain’s calling Obama’s view regarding Afghanistan and Pakistan naive and dangerous, but when Sarah “Barack Kuda” Palin say the same, McSame called her:”a maverick”.
Sarah took the whole debate to enlighten contrasts between Biden and Obama, but when she is asked about differences between her and McSame: “we are mavericks”.

Posted by: Fred | October 8, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am

RL…if you’re really concerned that barack obama is the antichrist, then you should be happy he’ll be in office to hasten the coming of the true christ. yeah, i know it’s hard to face the facts!

Posted by: Correcting RL | October 8, 2008, 12:42 am 12:42 am

My brother “RL”
What is important is What’s OBAMA belief nad what’s in his heart.
Some may say he is a christian but we go deeper than that. We dont distinguish a person by so so name. We can tell and feel that he is the one that can unite all of us with all our differnces.
Give him a chance and you will be rewarded.

Posted by: muslims4Obama | October 8, 2008, 12:42 am 12:42 am

Too bad that there are some very ignorant right wingers in our fine nation. Personally, I think those calling him “Hussein” etc., ought to take your racism and move to somewhere it’s more appreciated. Try Zimbabwe. Or maybe Mars. Please.

Posted by: Bob from Virginia | October 8, 2008, 12:43 am 12:43 am

ALL OF YOU OBAMA SUPPORTERS PLEASE TELL ME HOW A AMERICAN CAN VOTE FOR A MUSLIM? BABY KILLER , GAY RIGHTS, MUSLIM , BABY KILLER

Posted by: RL | October 8, 2008, 12:43 am 12:43 am

It’s clear McCain needs a nursing home. We do not want to hear what he did then? We want to hear “what he is gonna do now”
He called Obama “That One” and stormed outta the debate without even shaking hands with Obama.
We do not need a grumpy old man for president.

Posted by: SG | October 8, 2008, 12:44 am 12:44 am

McCain revealed himself as a condescending, arrogant, sarcastic, racist ass.

Posted by: jack | October 8, 2008, 12:44 am 12:44 am

“Senator Obama has a name,” said Axelrod. “You’d expect your opponent to use that name.” – Obama Campaign Manager David Axelrod (Karl Rove of the Left)
so unless Sen. McCain said, “You know who voted for it? You might never know. Sen. Obama. You know who voted against it? Sen. McCain,” as far as David Axelrod is concerned, Sen. McCain would be “odd”? what a spin-doctor.

Posted by: Obamacrat for McCain | October 8, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am

McCain is Rude. His Diplomacy skills are almost nill.

Posted by: BoB4USA | October 8, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am

McCain, please go home and take a nap.

Posted by: Dbow_NC | October 8, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am

bam bams a sore loser already.

Posted by: parrada | October 8, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am

Senator McCain defintely won the debate. Senator Obama kept distorting McCains record and policies yet would not even say where he would cut costs. He did state more money was needed for education, health care (almost free) and energy costs. Obama’s health care package is a big bonus for the insurance companies just like medicare precription drugs for seniors. The seniors lost out on that one. I know, since I am a senior citizen. Obama policies are pipe dreams, not reality nor workable.

Posted by: Marla | October 8, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am

Bellgirl, when Sarah Palin was placed on the ticket, I started, for the first time in a long time, to have some hope for this country. She is like a breath of fresh air. Don’t ever underestimate the Pit Bull! You intellectuals kill me. Everything has to be so proper for you and so politically correct. If Obama is elected, you’re going to be crawling and wishing Sarah had been elected. You don’t realize the danger Obama is to this nation. But as long as you get your news from the commie media, you will keep on saying these stupid things.

Posted by: Lynne | October 8, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am

A teacher earlier this evening said this about McCain’s “that one” comment: “If I pointed at one of the black students in my class and referred to them as “that one”, I would be fired immediately.”
It sounded very like racial trigger words like “uppity” and it sounded disdainful and disrespectful. Barack Obama is a Senator of the United States. When McCain likes him or not, he should treat him with respect. Obama treats McCain with respect. Senators–and presidents–should maintain basic good manners and civility. Poor taste McCain.

Posted by: karela | October 8, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am

The above comment by muslims4Obama is by a known sockpuppet. I know this because I have the IP address using different names. Nice Try

Posted by: Obamatized | October 8, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am

VOTE MCCAIN

Posted by: RL | October 8, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am

McCain wanted Immigration reform.
Hispanice for McCain.

Posted by: Joe A. | October 8, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am

John McCain acts like a villain from BLAZING SADDLES! The new Sheriff is a N……THAT ONE!!!
Talk about giving someone the ultimate disrepect. You can’t even call him SENATOR or BY HIS FIRST NAME or HELL why not even call him Hussein at least that’s better than just saying THAT ONE.

Posted by: SigmaCh | October 8, 2008, 12:47 am 12:47 am

Hey RL:
We support Obama because we are not consumed by fear and hate.

Posted by: Oboma 4 potus | October 8, 2008, 12:48 am 12:48 am

How do we recognise a republican troll on this blog ?
1) They say they are democrats who will vote for McCain.
2) In their sentences, there is at least one of the following words: “Hussein, muslim, terrorist, Osama”
At this point, McCain should convince his friend Bush to bomb a nuclear plant in Iran. This is the last chance for him to win this election.

Posted by: Fred | October 8, 2008, 12:48 am 12:48 am

To Sam,
McCain was saying that candidate voted for it this candidate didn’t vote for the energy bill.
McCain says this all the time in his stump speech.
McCain has a black daughter. Enough aleady smearing McCain.
McCain said that one referring to that candidate and senator voted for it this senator didnt’ vote for it.
It was a comparison on the votes that candidate voted for it this one didn’t vote for it.

Posted by: jeff | October 8, 2008, 12:48 am 12:48 am

I went back and read more of the comments. Apparently a great many people are not aware that this is a racial slur used by older white people towards black people in certain parts of the country in order to demonstrate that the black person is of no consequence or matter. McCain’s mother and family are from Mississippi. I bet McCain knows what it implies!

Posted by: karela | October 8, 2008, 12:49 am 12:49 am

In the first debate “Barrack” kept referring to Senator McCain as “John” and no one said that was a sign of disrespect. He was acting like John McCain was his “buddy”. Notice this time it was different. He is a US Senator and knows more about America than Senator Obama ever will. Was the comment by Senator McCain meant to be slightly disrespectful? Yes but it was justified. I am tired of hearing how we should not have gone to war. Hey “Barrack” – that is now academic – we are there and now need to bring our troops home and close this bad chapter of this book. We need to restore American confidence and not have someone who tears down America by not respecting the flag etc. I am tired of his reference to the past. We have problems and we need solutions. All you people need to wake up. The Democrats have had the House and Senate for how long now – and what have they done. Our President has not quite been the leader he started out to be but I cannot see Senator Obama fighting for us with the current bunch in Congress. His tax cuts, health insurance plan, etc. are just band aids on the real problems. We need cooperation and John McCain is asking for the chance to get America together. Stop with the garbage on “the comment” and lets talk about the real issues.

Posted by: hoopman | October 8, 2008, 12:49 am 12:49 am

RL: You’re clearly uneducated because your comments are nonsense and you can’t even spell. A majority of Americans are pro-choice, pro-gay rights, and pro-diversity, so what do you mean “How can you vote for…?” YOU are in the minority, so you might want to think about people respecting YOU since the country is moving into the 21st Century. If you don’t like it, LEAVE.

Posted by: KB | October 8, 2008, 12:50 am 12:50 am

Was that the teacher that had her students sing the Obama song?

Posted by: Joe A. | October 8, 2008, 12:50 am 12:50 am

I’m from Illinois and have been an Obama supporter since he announced his candidacy. In that context, I want to say that it is absurd to accuse McCain of racism. He has done NOTHING to merit such an ugly accusation. Calling Obama “that one” was disrespectful, and I didn’t enjoy hearing it and thought it out of place in a presidential debate, but it was hardly racist. Like or dislike McCain’s policies (and I despise many of them), there is every reason to believe he is a good man and no viable reason to believe he is racist. It irritated me to no end when the McCain camp made a big deal about Obama’s “lipstick on a pig comment” and absurdly claimed he was a sexist. Attributing unwarranted meaning to McCain’s comment is equally unfair. Obviously, both camps are aware that many Americans are halfwits and therefore struggle to manufacture these bogus sound-bite “controversies.” Enough is enough. Let’s focus on the issues.

Posted by: Brett W. | October 8, 2008, 12:51 am 12:51 am

Alright! Let “the state” buy everyone a house. What a fantastic socialist idea Mr. McCain. I’m so impressed. Let’s buy everyone a car too. Anyone stupid enough to buy a house within their budget and pay their mortgage on time is a sucker!

Posted by: Socialists_4_McCain | October 8, 2008, 12:52 am 12:52 am

McCain is just like Bush…just another spoiled wealthy baby who has had everything handed to him all his life. He graduated 890th out of a class of 894! Daddy was an admiral and got little Johnny special help. Then he married an outrageously wealthy biyotch who only cares about the campaign so she can fulfill her jealousy of Jackie O and live in the White House to look down on all the little people.
Bush = young spoiled brat.
McCain = old spoiled brat.

Posted by: tellingit | October 8, 2008, 12:52 am 12:52 am

I am a Republican and I will vote for McCain, but only as the lesser of two evils. That said, their attempt to brush off his dehumanizing the racist use of “that one” – something I grew up hearing whites use to refer to “upstart” blacks in my childhood in Mississippi – is appalling. Maybe it was just a flub, but it was disheartening for me to see and hear. You don’t like to see “your guy” doing things like that.
I don’t think Obama would be a disaster – he’s bright and he obviously loves this country. I just think that McCain would be safer, given who we are now.
Although the addition of Palin (???) to the ticket is making me feel even less excited about this ticket. Not to the point of voting for Obama – I’m not going to start voting Democrat after 63 years – but it certainly is a bit of a letdown. That woman doesn’t belong anywhere near the Oval Office.

Posted by: Dan Breuer | October 8, 2008, 12:53 am 12:53 am

Most of us even Obama supporters know that McCain is better than this. He’s tiered, out classed and frankly out of his league right now. McCain needs to go home to one of his houses and enjoy retirment. He’s earned it – but it’s over now.

Posted by: freedomfighter1975 | October 8, 2008, 12:54 am 12:54 am

Anyone who thinks McCain has ANY honor needs to read how dangerous he would be leading our nation:
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain

Posted by: KB | October 8, 2008, 12:54 am 12:54 am

Both exSenator Allen from Virginia – “Macaca” and Senator McCain “That one” long for the good ol days…back on the plantation.

Posted by: Mike | October 8, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am

KB IF YOU LIKE GAYS AND MUSLIMS GO TO IRAN OR IRAQ . IN AMERICA WE LIKE STRAIT CHRISTIANS. GO LIVE WITH THE GAY MUSLIMS AND TAKE HUSSIEN WITH YOU! OBAMA WHAT EVER YOU WANT TO CALL HIM SEEYA KB

Posted by: RL | October 8, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am

senator mccain wants to return washington to the people. he wants to show that he is really going to help out the little guy over there. he is trying to be the candidate of the joe six packs. well when you call your opponent “that one” and not refer to them by their name, you show the inherent disrespect you have for a colleague. Makes you wonder, if you treat another human being like this before you are elected, how would you treat the rest of us if we elected you and nothing was at stake from us for you to pander to us anymore?

Posted by: Rachel | October 8, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am

Senator Obama was great! Did Senator McCain say he was bipartisan? Senator McCain had a memory lapse….No… the real Senator McCain came out when he referred to his fellow Senator as “that one.” Pretty sad and ironic.

Posted by: Rul | October 8, 2008, 12:58 am 12:58 am

i dont know if mccain’s comments were racist or not because i bring race as the last possible reason as a black man. i dont want people to think that i am misusing the race card. however, i thought calling your opponent “that one” was disrespectful, unbecoming of a presidential candidate, and demonstrated serious lack of control and judgment of Senator McCain and his emotions.

Posted by: roger | October 8, 2008, 12:59 am 12:59 am

McCain’s use of the words “that one” is like a kid, he is losing the race so he is reverting to name calling.He is no different from racist people who referr to African Americans as, “those people” or “you people.” Shame on the people who will pick a leader, who has no respect or tolerance for all people. Senator Obama is a gentleman with class, he always shows respect to his opponents.The rest of the world is watching, Senator McCain needs to play the game by the rules and stop the name calling!

Posted by: Ann Marie | October 8, 2008, 1:00 am 1:00 am

KB IS A BABY KILLER TOO . LIKE ANYONE CARE WHAT YOU THINK BABY KILLER

Posted by: RL | October 8, 2008, 1:00 am 1:00 am

ITs OK…
The Troopergate Report is due out Friday, Oct. 10

Posted by: Deena Rockefeller | October 8, 2008, 1:00 am 1:00 am

I live in the South. Referring to an African American as “That one” is racist — point blank, period. Between McCain/Palin’s klan rallies this week, I mean, campaign rallies, McCain not even looking at Sen. Obama in the first debate, his reference to Obama as “That one” in tonight’s debate, I can’t imagine what socially regressive goodies we’ll be in store for next Wednesday!

Posted by: Nash | October 8, 2008, 1:00 am 1:00 am

Well McCain did say the Gloves
would be coming off..
That one….is just the start…
only a few more Weeks of this
who I shall call the Glove less one!

Posted by: Anita Yova | October 8, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am

To Senator McCain,
I’ve got news for you. I’m one Southern white man who is voting for “that one.”

Posted by: Mark from atlanta | October 8, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am

so typical of the scummy McShame campaign. And typical of man with a lifetime grudge, someone who referred to his wife as a c–t. Don’t believe me? Still think he is honorable? Read all about this lifetime of deceit in the latest Rolling Stone.
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain

Posted by: no_more_mad_cows | October 8, 2008, 1:02 am 1:02 am

Brett, you’re pathetic, you are just a liberal pretending to be unbiased, get a life you American hater.

Posted by: Lets Roll | October 8, 2008, 1:02 am 1:02 am

NEWS FLASH!!!!! OBAMA IS 50%white 50% black 100% muslim

Posted by: RL | October 8, 2008, 1:02 am 1:02 am

RL…RL..
YOU need to FAST for 3 days to clear your demons in your heart.
This is what I mean of having OBAMA our leader and peace maker.
OBAMA..OBAMA reign on us NOW

Posted by: muslims4Obama | October 8, 2008, 1:03 am 1:03 am

Wayyyyyy down upon Swannee River, Senator McCain and exSenator Allen sittt, longing for the good ol days…

Posted by: Mikce | October 8, 2008, 1:03 am 1:03 am

When slaves were brought to market for sale, a seller would ask, “Which one you want?” and a buyer would point at a black man and say, “That one.”
When the plantation man wanted something done, he would point to a group of slaves and tell them what tasks he wanted done. He would say, “this one” do that, and “that one” do this.
McCain, in dipping into our nation’s shameful racist past you are an insult to decent, patriotic Americans. You just lost this vote.

Posted by: William Bennet | October 8, 2008, 1:03 am 1:03 am

I can’t believe he said that!!! What a Jerk!!! OMG… I thought it was a good debate and Obama did very well, but if there’s one thing I’m gonna remember about tonight its…….THAT ONE!

Posted by: dan | October 8, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am

“That one” didn’t bother me so much; however, McCain’s arrogance did. Did anyone else get the impression that John McCain thinks that he “can do” just about anything? I mean…can the guy brag about himself anymore. It’s one thing to be confident and a totally different thing to be arrogant. That was displayed tonight.

Posted by: woaitheo | October 8, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am

*Facepalm*
Really, when issues got you stuck you deal to things like this. How bout the last debate when Obama kept refering to McCain as John, yeah real classy Obama. McCain at the time never refered to him as Barack or Barry or whatever he picks to fit in with his current group.
Keep working on these “racist” dealings while the big boys work on real issues. All the dems wanted a race based on issues, too bad they fall flat everytime they talk because they have video to dispute them.

Posted by: Rbastid | October 8, 2008, 1:05 am 1:05 am

How pathetic that this would even be an issue. Leave it to the ALL-BAMA-CHANNEL (ABC) to give it so much publicity … and George Stephanopolous is so in the tank for Obama it is creepy to listen to him.

Posted by: Cassandra Washington | October 8, 2008, 1:05 am 1:05 am

MARK BETTER THINK TWICE 1YR LATER YOU WILL WISH YOU HAD NOT!

Posted by: RL | October 8, 2008, 1:05 am 1:05 am

NO race comments were brought up tonight, why are you liberal morons bringing up the race card? Stop changing your names and speak the truth, all you liberals want to do is change America in a SOCIALIST SOCIETY!

Posted by: Lets Roll | October 8, 2008, 1:07 am 1:07 am

This is really crazy. Everyone is more worried about Oboma being refered to as “that one” then anything else of any relavance. Next time Oboma speaks he can refer to Mcain as “that one” and they can call it even, then maybe we can get back to the facts. Fact is Mcain is not a great choice for president, one I would never vote for, except for the fact that he is up against Oboma, whom is a way worse choice. I wouldn’t vote for Oboma to be my town’s mayor, much less the leader of our country. It has nothing to do with him being “that one” but everything to do with him not being “the one.” Oboma doens’t offer soultions, he offers temporary fixes.

Posted by: Jennifer | October 8, 2008, 1:07 am 1:07 am

McStpd, his campaign, his idiotic VP, his wife, and everyone who supports that idiotic ticket……..ARE RACIST F**KING SCARED, GUILTY, WEAK, WHITE PPL…BOTH MEN AND WOMEN……NOONE HAS TALKED ABOUT THE WHITE MANS FEAR!!! THEY HAVE SPENT ALL THEIR EXSIT IN THIS CTRY OPPRESSING THE BLK MAN……NO MORE…AND THT IS THEIR BIGGEST FEAR….WHY R U AFRAID OF BLK POWER? WE HAVE HAD WHITE POWER FOR WHT 400 YRS?
GET USED TO SAYING…..PRESIDENT OBAMA…AND ONCE YOU GO BLACK…YOU DONT GO BACK!!!!
BUZZARDS KORNER!

Posted by: BUZZARD'S KORNER | October 8, 2008, 1:07 am 1:07 am

I don’t think it was racist, just disrespectful. McCain clearly looks down on Obama, as he has shown now in both debates. Not sure why but I suspect it’s his long military service (not just him but also his father and grandfather) and his wealth. Obama has neither a military background or personal wealth, but unfortunately for McCain he’s both smarter and more charismatic.
McCain may not realize that Obama is the better man, ever, but I think a majority of the American people do. In about three months Senator McCain, in public at least, will have to refer to Barack Obama as Mr President and the Commander in Chief. The irony is sweet.

Posted by: Alan | October 8, 2008, 1:08 am 1:08 am

hmm How should you decide? — An upstanding man with a security clearance who some far-right whack jobs claim is associated with a guy who once was a 60′s radical when Obama was 8 yrs old, OR… a lying, hot-headed philanderer directly involved and rebuked by his congresional peers in fraudulent financial transactions causing a major financial debacle almost exacly like what we are going through now. —- Your choice folks!

Posted by: no_more_mad_cows | October 8, 2008, 1:08 am 1:08 am

Obama was great in the debate. He is always genuine. McCain true colors are coming out. We all see how low McCain will go to win the presidency. He speaks so much about how much he loves his country, but is he will to put his career agendas aside to let the better man be president? Maybe not, but his actions show how much of a selfish, tricky person he really is. I used to think McCain was okay, but not anymore. The “that one” remark and the pointing at Obama shows how much hate he has inside of him. When you hate, you attract hate. We dont need that during these times. The remark about the young man probably not knowing who Fannie or Freddy was just plain old ignorant on his part and shows McCain’s disconnect with the newer generation and future. McCain is stuck in the past!

Posted by: Kolo | October 8, 2008, 1:09 am 1:09 am

All you people who refer to Obama as muslim are ignorant and playing to the Republicans typical strategy of fear mongering. It is &%*#ing unbelievable that over 40% of American people support the Republican ticket (McCain/Palin)after all that we have been through the last eight years.
Even if Obama was muslim (and he is not!) so what. I worry more about the evangelicals in this country trying to force their values on me.
Go OBAMA/BIDEN !!

Posted by: LJ | October 8, 2008, 1:09 am 1:09 am

MUSLIM4OBAMA YOUR RIGHT I DO NEED TO FAST. GOD BLESS YOU! JESUS IS THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIGHT! GOD BLESS MCCAIN/PALIN AND GOD BLESS AMERICAN. PLEASE PRAY FOR MCCAIN/PALIN MUSLIM4OBAMA! THEY WILL NEED IT WHEN THEY GET TO THE WHITEHOUSE!

Posted by: RL | October 8, 2008, 1:09 am 1:09 am

“THAT ONE?” IT HAS COME DOWN TO THAT NOW? HOW LOW CAN YOU GO? WELL, YOU ARE DAMN RIGHT JOHN, HE’S THE CHOSEN ONE SO GOPACK YOUR BAGS AND GO BACK TO THE US SENATE AND CONTINUE THE BICKERING BECAUSE YOU AIN’T GONNA SEE THE WHITE HOUSE GRANDPA!

Posted by: Emanuel | October 8, 2008, 1:09 am 1:09 am

Oooh, RL, your arguments are pathetic. America is for everyone. If you hate certain religions or other groups, you are the one that needs to leave America. Why do you hate this country and our freedom, where everyone can live no matter their religion? Sounds like you are the true terrorist. We’re all just laughing at you. Obama is ahead in the polls, will win, and will repair the damage done in the last 8 years. And hopefully, get you a scholarship to go back to school and learn some grammar and spelling. You’re embarrassing all of us.

Posted by: KB | October 8, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am

As much as I disagree with McCain’s sleazy campaign tactics and the nonsense over Ayers, etc, the “that one” controversy is being overblown. I was watching and listening and it may been a little awkward but you can’t really go too overboard on this one. Both campaigns have had their awkward moments. The issues matter, here, and for that reason I am voting 100% Democratic this year.

Posted by: Steve from Danville | October 8, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am

Look… I’m an Obama supporter and it is obvious to me that McCain meant to say, “Do you know which candidate voted for it… That one.”
C’mon, people…

Posted by: Josh | October 8, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am

The same people here saying “That One” remark is not a big deal and making fun of libs for pointing it our are the same people who got all giddy and blasting Obama for the lipstick on a pig remark.

Posted by: Scott | October 8, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am

Lets Roll – YOU are precisely the kind of lowbrow, know-nothing moron that prompts campaigns to make these kind of ludicrous assertions. You wouldn’t understand a true policy debate if it bumped you in your unemployed, over-mortgaged head. Nice work dummy.

Posted by: Brett W. | October 8, 2008, 1:12 am 1:12 am

Scott wrote: “The same people…”
……….. no we’re not .. we thought that was pathetic too!

Posted by: Cassandra Washington | October 8, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am

to Dan—the Republican who is proud of his inability to change…you must be in your mid-eighties….so sad you are so rigid and incapable of change…even when your gut and brain tell you how pathetic Palin is….read up on McCain…he may be not as safe as you think…maybe stay home???

Posted by: Mary | October 8, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am

It’s just sad when a man of McCain’s stature lowers himself to the level he has and forsakes his principles, his ethics, his morals because he can’t why any other way to the white house. Shame on you John, but then, like they say, “There’s no fool like an Old fool”.

Posted by: JR | October 8, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am

I doubt that Senator McCain’s “that one” comment was calculated. But I think that what he said is important because, under stress, a person often reveals what is truly in his/her heart. “That one” belittles the person to whom it refers. In the eyes of the person who says it, usually “that one” (depending of course on the tone and context) is more an object of disgust or contempt, rather than a human being of equal worth.

Posted by: lionheart46 | October 8, 2008, 1:14 am 1:14 am

I am voting Democratic this year. I think both parties have put forth their best candidate but Obama is clearly more poised right now, moving forward, to lead America. We need change and we need it bad.

Posted by: Steve from Danville | October 8, 2008, 1:14 am 1:14 am

McCain is pathetic. When he says that the US are a nation of good in the world, he doesn’t have a good memory or he doesn’t read the newspapers. Even the US allies have now a bad image of the US because of the Bush/Cheney/McCain administration.
Here in Switzerland, one of the most conservative country in western Europe, 76% of the population would cast a vote for Obama. The nation will be better with Obama as US President as McCain.
As an american abroad, we will elect the better president and not the stronger.
P.S. McCain won’t retreat from Irak until victory ? So, it could be take 100 years before he finds the WMD. How can this dishonorable man speak from victory about Irak ?

Posted by: Fred | October 8, 2008, 1:16 am 1:16 am

OBAMA IS 50% WHITE. EVEN IF HE GET TO BE PRESIDENT. HE WAS BROUGHT UP BY HIS WHITE MOTHER AND GRANDMOTHER ASK HIM! HE WILL TELL YOU! OBAMA IS NOT BLACK ! HE IS 50%WHITE 50%BLACK 100%MUSLIM

Posted by: RL | October 8, 2008, 1:17 am 1:17 am

As a non-prophet, I have ultimate respect for Alan who sees the inaugration in January of Obama and call the “irony” “sweet”.
Alan, can you also tell us where Osama is? Obama might just go after him. Or Obama wants to talk to Osama first?

Posted by: Not a prophet | October 8, 2008, 1:17 am 1:17 am

This year, the american people will elect the better candidate instead of the stronger.

Posted by: John | October 8, 2008, 1:18 am 1:18 am

I didn’t think the ‘that one’ comment was racist.. I was more concentrated on what each one really said. I know that on more than several occasions, McCain just flat out lied or continued on with his Roveian fear and ignorance tactics that he has resorted to of late. Obama kept, for the most part, on the issues like he should have. If he can keep that track, he is going to the White House. At the beginning of this race, McCain claimed he would hold an honorable campaign, and yet he is now desperate and turned to attacks. That is unfortunate, as it is hurting him even worse. In his own words, back in 2000 when Bush did it to him, he said:
“I just have to rely on the good judgment of the voters not to buy into these negative attack ads. Sooner or later, people are going to figure out if all you run is negative attack ads you don’t have much of a vision for the future or you’re not ready to articulate it.”
He is now showing that he really has no vision, and about the only thing he can articulate is that he is a “Maverick”.

Posted by: stephen | October 8, 2008, 1:19 am 1:19 am

MCCAIN’S AGGRESSIVE STANCE AND NAME CALLING IS ONE OF THE REASONS OBAMA WON! MCCAIN AND PALIN SHOULD BE CHARGED WITH PUBLIC INCITEMENT
The sorry state of McCain’s campaign is what you get when in the midst of a blowing wind of change you surround yourself with the architects of the old politics of personal destruction. They include in large measure the same operatives who contributed immensely to McCain’s demise in the 2000 Presidential election primaries–the Karl Rove protégé. Now they include so many lobbyists that McCain used to rail against in his days as a “maverick.” Old narrative now! And then comes Palin–from the least multicultural part of America–to ignite the bonfire of a cultural war that could have incalculable consequences if not snuffed off soon enough. Some of what she has said in the stumping are simply mind-bugling, irresponsible and naive. And McCain is cheering! In some European countries (Britain for one) McCain and Palin would be charged with public incitement for calling Obama a terrorist or implying that he is one, that “he is not one of us” and suggestively using his middle name to imply that he is an Arab terrorist in disguise. A sheriff in uniform (shockingly) made this shameful speech calling Obama’s middle name for effect—making it seem like a state-sponsored action (NOTE: Florida Governor and Joe Sen. Lieberman were watching approvingly). During Palin’s public addresses in California and Florida someone in the crowd shouted that Obama is a “terrorist” and in Florida one person raised the issue of assassination. The shout rang out: “Kill him.” What better proof than this that McCain and Palin are inciting the crowd to harm Obama? The Secret Service and the Justice Department should take such public speeches more seriously. The question now is: Who is the real John McCain? Remember that McCain was a Board member of an extremist organization (Singlaub’s US Council for World Freedom) that provided a forum for anti-Semites, racists and supported terrorist ultra-right wing death squads in Nicaragua and other Latin American countries. Secondly, why is McCain so angry—especially against Obama? There are so many who would hold McCain and rifle-packing Joe Six Pack responsible should anything ever happen to Obama! Clearly, this is McCain-Palin idea of change—cultural division, hatred, and conflict, anger and total avoidance of what really matters to the people like health care, economic prosperity, security at home, and popular leadership of the US abroad.

Posted by: Dr. Sam | October 8, 2008, 1:21 am 1:21 am

MY FRIENDS, I done think THAT ONE from Arizona done shot himself in the foot!
My wife and I had to turn it off about half way into the debate, it was embarrassing to watch. I think it’s time to put together his concession speech because come November 4th THAT ONE from Arizona will be needing it fairly early on into the evening.

Posted by: Hansi | October 8, 2008, 1:21 am 1:21 am

Be careful with your shouting, Marxist Liberals. Obama/Biden sounds like
Osama Bin Laden.
Wow!!!!!!!

Posted by: Jason | October 8, 2008, 1:22 am 1:22 am

“Lipstick” was McCain trying to slam Obama for slightly Palin when Obama was actually slamming the policies of McCain-Bush. That was a false charge of artificial outrage, and deserved comment. Tonight McCain should have said “Senator Obama.” But instead it seemed like he was answering his own question of “Which One?” I say back off and keep your powder dry for tomorrow. Tomorrow McCain will pop his head up, like a prarie dog, spew some junk, then pop down again and let Palin do the heavy smear.

Posted by: Steve from Danville | October 8, 2008, 1:22 am 1:22 am

CAme across some interesting read! “Republican voters are the least educated in the country and Democratic voters are the most educated”,that is a polled fact, check it.
You can really see it in these post. Read the Republican angry,rambling nonsensical post and contrast them to the Democratic. Take the experiment.
My advice, stupid ones listen to the Democrats.

Posted by: Canadian for America | October 8, 2008, 1:24 am 1:24 am

The comment wasn’t racist, just crude, and indicative of how out of sync McCain has been during this campaign. I’m Democrat but in the past I always admired his ability to stand up for what he believes in. This year though he has gone back on so much of his convictions, and he just seems kind of desperate.
I think that’s what has thrown him off this whole campaign, and really the signal event was selecting Palin, whose policies and positions are just Bush redux. If he had picked someone who was centrist and more like McCain has been historically, such as Lieberman, I think we would have been looking at a whole different dynamic right now.
But, instead, what we see is a rather desperate candidate who has lost his convictions and that has led to his loss of poise. I think he knows he’s on the way to a loss, maybe even a major landslide type loss. It would be sad, except there’s too much at stake to shed tears over McCain’s missteps. Obama is just so clearly the better choice and I just wish this election was over and done with already and we could move on to some real solutions.

Posted by: Alan | October 8, 2008, 1:24 am 1:24 am

Wake up, Senator McCain. The Senator from Illinois, or, as you call him, “That One” will be the next President of the United States who is smart, courteous and tactful. With warmth and congeniality,”That One” and “Mrs. That One” stayed around for many minutes after the Town Hall shaking hands with the audience, laughing and chatting with people while you and Mrs. McCain vanished without shaking “That One’s” hand after he extended it to you. Where are your manners, sir? I am a 63 year old former Goldwater girl who woke up in my senior years. I am ashamed at what has happened to the Republican party. Senator McCain has sold out to the social conservatives, the religious right and the ditto heads. Adding Palin to his ticket was the final manipulative straw. “That One” has my vote, my donations and my volunteer time.

Posted by: politicallysavvy | October 8, 2008, 1:25 am 1:25 am

The William Bennett poster is either an African American supporter of Obama, or a white computer geek working for ABC and or a Obama campaign blogger working in a hypocritical manner . If he understood reality, those days were mainly democrats supporting and enslaving blacks into severe service to the land owners who paid for them, feelings of a status by color, to pay how they should be treated by race and color, which is what the democrats stood for!!! Get the facts straight you lying liberal democratic socialist piece of pig sh**. Tell the truth you moron, or is that to hard to do, you American HATER!

Posted by: Lets Roll | October 8, 2008, 1:25 am 1:25 am

Mr. McGoo, whoops, I mean McCain, looked like a doddering old fool and sounded like one too. He treats the public like we are all stupid – never heard of Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac….geeeeeez. And ‘my friends’ every two seconds is how the kindergarten teachers refer to the kids in their classes where I work. CONDESCENDING!! We aren’t all dumb enough to think someone has terrorist connections because of their NAME.

Posted by: ameryan | October 8, 2008, 1:26 am 1:26 am

KB ALL I WANT IS FOR YOU GAYS TO STOP KILLING BABY! THEY NEED A CHANCE TO LIVE! SOMEBODY GIVE YOU A CHANCE !YOU WORTHLESS PIECE OF HUMAN CRAP! WE ALL SEE THE WAS A MISTAKE! BUT YOUR HERE! YOU HAD YOUR CHANCE GIVE THE BABYS A CHANCE

Posted by: RL | October 8, 2008, 1:26 am 1:26 am

@muslims4obama
The DAY has finally come.
The Deliverer has come.
OBAMA means “blessed.” In Arabic.
Our message will finally be delivered to everyone.
Thank you Brothers for being in our side. Lets rally for the chosen one.
You dim witted republican. Caught you. Barack means blessed. Obama means peace. If a father chooses these name for his son he means well. You are another McCain under the pant zipper serviceman who is trying to use the 9/11 fear of muslims against a candidate who is a devout christian. There are many black people who have muslim like names, but are not muslim.
Go figure. I guess “that one” has more devotees than he thinks. Go screw yourself muslims4Obama or whoever you are. You are truly a smear on America.

Posted by: John Schmitt | October 8, 2008, 1:28 am 1:28 am

alright, guys,
the bottom line is: McCain can never win this time, there is no way for him to turn the page now. all americans should now think about how could we do to help US back on the stage. U could blame everything on Bush, but he is stepping down soon (and i don’t think he is the only one who should take responsibility for current situation, afterall this nation is running by a group of top experts in the world). I sincerely hope Obama is “the one” who could make US be a strong nation in all aspects again.

Posted by: what | October 8, 2008, 1:28 am 1:28 am

Queer from Danville, how’s it going homo steve.

Posted by: Vote for the Maverick | October 8, 2008, 1:29 am 1:29 am

McCain has no courage. Why didn’t he look straight into Obama’s eyes and call him about Ayers. You know why? Because he can only stand in front of his supporters and ask who is Obama. If McCain wins this election it’s not because he was hero. It because the country is so naive and racist. Otherwise if the majority of the people are not naive and racist then Obama should win with a landslide. Let’s hope this voting stays clean.

Posted by: cony647 | October 8, 2008, 1:29 am 1:29 am

Wow…just imagine this….McCain wins the election, and meets with Putin of Russia, and in a joint press conference, refers to Mr. Putin as “that man”….. or how about this…meeting with the Premier of Germany, he refers to her as “that girl”….This man wants to be the highest diplomat in the world. He better get with those etiquette ladies. Personally, I am scared by Mr. McCain and Governor Palin. Trick or treat!

Posted by: Liz | October 8, 2008, 1:29 am 1:29 am

“That one” matters because it shows just how unstable McCain is, “my friends.” He’s far too quick to anger and show his irritation. He’s in a presidential debate, and he can’t keep his irritation in check. It’s not news that he has anger-management issues. But referring, “my friends,” to “that one” shows he can’t show the respect that is due to his very formidable and professional opponent.

Posted by: That One Supporter | October 8, 2008, 1:30 am 1:30 am

ABC and this blog room is a bunch of Obama paid bloggers and ABC bloggers for Obama, you can seriously tell by the rhetoric bs.

Posted by: SPEAK THE TRUTH! | October 8, 2008, 1:31 am 1:31 am

Between the “that one” comment and slyly referring to Joe Biden’s hair transplant, McCain showed that he is not only lacking in class, he is lacking in tact. Not only was he rude and disrespectful to Obama, he was disrespectful to a member of the audience when he questioned his knowledge of Fannie and Freddie. His repetition of “my friends” came off as totally patronizing and false. He and Palin are perfect for each other.

Posted by: Jane D. | October 8, 2008, 1:32 am 1:32 am

McArrogant and McUnclassy
For President? Are you kidding me?
Really? Are there people out there who are really buying all this BS from Palin and McCain?
I have no more words to express my disgust with this so called war hero. He can’t even be respectable to a fellow senator. He’s all about ‘me, me, me!”. On top of it, he’s a blatant liar and so is his running mate, the biggest moron from Alaska who’s puppet out of her league and doesn’t even know it.

Posted by: LocalAmerican | October 8, 2008, 1:32 am 1:32 am

“that one” OR “the one” who cares!

Posted by: "the truth will set you free" | October 8, 2008, 1:32 am 1:32 am

Lets not forget what makes our country so great–its the land of opportunity! With comments that were made by Senator McCain last night in reference to Senator Obama as “That One” just shows Senator McCain’s character. Senator McCain is racist and will never win the Presidential nomination. And dont let me get started on his VP candidate…thats another story in itself! I am voting for the right candidate and that is Senator Obama!

Posted by: Basanthi | October 8, 2008, 1:32 am 1:32 am

“Gays to stop killing baby?” “Babys?” RL, how about giving yourself a chance by learning English before you write unintelligible posts on a news website? No wonder we have a lower literacy rate than every country in Western Europe, and a high-school dropout rate at the same level as Mexico. Ironically, McCain has repeatedly tried to abolish the Department of Education. Get an education and then you can come back and discuss things with adults who know how to complete a sentence. You are an embarrassment to our great country, but thanks for the laughs!

Posted by: KB | October 8, 2008, 1:33 am 1:33 am

To person using the handle “lets roll”: Please brush up on your grammar and spelling before you post your next message. Your ignorance (on every level)is troubling.

Posted by: John | October 8, 2008, 1:34 am 1:34 am

This campaign has been missing a “There you go again!” moment until tonight. THE defining moment of the 2008 Presidential campaign: …”THAT ONE..” (with finger point)

Posted by: thisone | October 8, 2008, 1:35 am 1:35 am

Please don’t make the mistake of becoming overconfident. It is extremely important that you get out and vote on election day!!!

Posted by: lionheart46 | October 8, 2008, 1:37 am 1:37 am

>>>> “That One” is not a natural-born citizen, therefore not able to be president of the USA!
“The One” is an illegal alien!
Obama went against the Federal Judge and refused to produce his “vault” (original long version) Birth Certificate, his Certificate of Citizenship and his Oath of Allegiance taken by Obama taken at the age of majority.
Looks like Obama is voting “present” again when it comes to compliance with the Federal Judge!
Google: Berg v. Obama, No. 08-cv-04083.
Obama cooperate with the Federal Court or leave our country!!!

Posted by: Sarah in Florida | October 8, 2008, 1:37 am 1:37 am

A lot of McCain supporters in here spewing hate from every orafice in thier vile bodies. I guess that’s all you guys have left is racism, hate and fear. Well you can take that bile and get the hell out of this country – Republicans are better than that, I love a lot of Republicans and I know they would never condon the kind of speech coming from some of bloggers in here tonight or even the crap being spewed by Palin on the campiagn trail. Americans are better than that. You people are sick. Get on your white robes, ride around town and light some crosses in someone’s backyard because that’s all you are. Face it you’re nothing but a bunch of BIGOTS!

Posted by: freedomfighter1975 | October 8, 2008, 1:37 am 1:37 am

Post-rational
You have not done your research. Obama has worked with the Republicans to sponsor bills. Google it!

Posted by: Illinois resident | October 8, 2008, 1:37 am 1:37 am

I recall Jessie Jackson just recently saying he wanted to get rid of Obama’s —by cutting them off.
NO OUTRAGE FROM ANYONE?
And as for service to this great country Obama(in sporting terms)couldn’t carry John McCain’s jock strap.
By tomorrow everyone on the left will hace this turned into a big time racial event, because that is what you folks on the left do.

Posted by: Don | October 8, 2008, 1:38 am 1:38 am

ISLAM, is what this Country faces now with you stupid Obama supporters. Off with peoples heads, it will be in the future. Oh, but I forgot, Americans are more worried about their bank accounts, GOD forbid!!!

Posted by: SPEAK THE TRUTH! | October 8, 2008, 1:38 am 1:38 am

KB SPELL THIS! YOU WILL BURN IN HELL FOR KILLING BABYS! ENJOY!!!!!!!!!BY THE WAY LET COMPARE W2 SEE WHO THE DUMB AS# IS ! AND IF YOU THINK YOU WANT SOME NAME THE PLACE AND TIME! GIVE ME 48 HOURS I CAN BE THERE ! WE WILL SEE HOW SMART YOU ARE THEN!

Posted by: RL | October 8, 2008, 1:39 am 1:39 am

Some of you really are out in left field. MCCain said “bet you can’t guess who, not this one(referring to himself), this one(referring to Obama). Can the Obama make anymore of a mountain out of a mole hill, oh yeah that’s what the Obamites are doing.

Posted by: Heather M Stroup | October 8, 2008, 1:39 am 1:39 am

Bottom line, these debates are remembered for significant moments. This is it; McSame coming off as a condescending a$$h0le. Not only referring to Obama as “that one” (which, no matter how you spin it, is extremely disrespectful), but then telling the African American questioner that he probably didn’t know anything about Freddie Mac before the crisis. Condescending and patronizing piece of $h-t.

Posted by: Alex | October 8, 2008, 1:39 am 1:39 am

When McCain said “that one”, he demonstrated his inner feelings, a revulsion for Obama. He just couldn’t restrain himself anymore. Boy, he really is out of this whole thing. “That one”….So out of touch.

Posted by: Aravind | October 8, 2008, 1:40 am 1:40 am

I noticed McCain wander around aimlessly when Obama was talking. He seemed like a lost, demented old man looking for directions to get back to his house. If he gets elected I hope he does not go senile for at least 4 years.

Posted by: Nikc | October 8, 2008, 1:40 am 1:40 am

Interesting read, Republican voters are the least educated in the country and Democratic voters are the most educated,that is a polled fact, check it.
You can really see it in these post. Read the Republican angry,rambling nonsensical post and contrast them to the Democratic. Take the experiment.
My advice, stupid ones listen to the Democrats.

Posted by: Truth | October 8, 2008, 1:40 am 1:40 am

do any of you realize how much like children you sound?

Posted by: bak | October 8, 2008, 1:41 am 1:41 am

not racist, but juvenile, disrespectful and unbecoming of a 26 year political veteran. he didnt even look at him.
if McCain can’t look at Obama without getting angry, why should anyone trust him to deal with our enemies?

Posted by: Goon | October 8, 2008, 1:41 am 1:41 am

I don’t think the comment was racist, but referring to Obama as “that one” was definitely disrespectful and condescending. Not appropriate.

Posted by: Bobbie G. | October 8, 2008, 1:41 am 1:41 am

let’s get back to the real issue instead of “the one” or how old or young a candidate appears

Posted by: bak | October 8, 2008, 1:43 am 1:43 am

All you neocons and repubs need to get real. You guys make it about race more than anyone. Talk about spinsters. That many people didn’t think of it as a racist comment, they thought of it as rude and inappropriate. You repubs and neocons just show how stupid you are by keep on trying to link Obama to Islam. You refer to his Huseein middle name and try to justify your fears of a christian who has never been a muslim nor has anyone in his married family. He was raised by jewish white people. Aah, I got it. McCain coming from the U.S. council on world freedom explains his hatred of blacks and people from other religions other than christianity.
Neocons just want more power and money. They don’t want to bow down to a black man tainted by the hands of jews.

Posted by: Jerry Richardson | October 8, 2008, 1:43 am 1:43 am

What won’t Obama produce his original Birth Certificate, his Certificate of Citizenship and his Oath of Allegiance taken at the age of majority?
“That One” won’t cooperate with the federal judge.
Google: Berg v. Obama, No. 08-CV-04083
Obama is a citizen of Kenya and Indonesia, not the United States!

Posted by: Shenia in AK | October 8, 2008, 1:43 am 1:43 am

ABC has one person making statements in majority(with others involved part-time) and changing their posting names, just thought I’d let the American people know! ABC is in the tank for Obama, insider info!

Posted by: It's time to know | October 8, 2008, 1:44 am 1:44 am

(( Why didn’t he look straight into Obama’s eyes and call him about Ayers.))
If he did, I’m sure that Obama would have hit back about McCains 100+ lobbyists working for him, or his Keating-5 days, or how he sat on the advisory board of the US council for world freedom (the US branch of the world anti-communist league), or even his involvement with the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA), which he continues to support today. In contrast to Obamas tenuous relationship with Ayers who did bad things 40 years ago when Obama was a kid, McCain was directly involved in the largest S&L collapse in history (particularly at this point in time with our current financial collapse), and directly supporting some of the most brutal and savage terrorists. Not a comparison you would like to bring up in front of a national audience.

Posted by: stephen | October 8, 2008, 1:44 am 1:44 am

That One ? UNBELIEVABLE !
How can ANYONE vote for McCain ?
And..he’s so old that you’d be possibly
voting for Gosh & B’Golly Palin for President ! We’d be the LAUGHINGSTOCK
OF THE WORLD !

Posted by: marsha | October 8, 2008, 1:45 am 1:45 am

McCain’s utterance of “that one”, in itself, would not have caught my attention had it not been for two specific things. First was McCain’s air of total disdain for Obama during the first debate. They were asked to address one another, but McCain could not find the civility nor respect to do so. Even GOP strategists noted that McCain’s attitude was perceived as condescending by the public, though one added that McCain “detests” Obama. Since Obama has done nothing to John McCain, other than attempt to win the office to which McCain thinks himself entitled, I find it unsettling that McCain has expressed such a vehement emotion. More disturbing is the video tape of a recent Palin rally where there were outbursts calling for Obama’s assassination. The silence of Palin was telling. That she would stand by silently speaks volumes to me. Kind of reminded me of when a McCain supporter asked him about that “bitch” Hillary Clinton, and McCain’s only response was laughter. Here in Tennessee, and in school systems across our country, there is a program called “Character Counts.” If our children are learning the importance of character, so should we all. McCain and Palin lack character that I want my children and grandchildren to exhibit. The divisiveness and incivility in our society hit a fever pitch beginning with the election of 2000. Americans cannot afford 4 more years of turning on one another. As Abraham Lincoln so wisely noted, “a house divided against itself cannot stand.” The intent of McCain and Palin is clear. They are losing, and in a last ditch effort they have decided to forget about the issues that concern Americans. They have decided to divide and conquer, spread lies, repeat debunked rumors, and insinuate racism and classicism into the mix. I rarely evoke God’s name when speaking of things political, but I fervently pray that on November 4 the American people will say a resounding “NO” to the politics of ugliness and hatred and lies.

Posted by: Lauria | October 8, 2008, 1:45 am 1:45 am

Anyone with PROOF of Obama being a Muslim stand up and prove it.
Anyone talking about McCain’s age, how old are your parents and are they feeble like you claim he is?

Posted by: bak | October 8, 2008, 1:45 am 1:45 am

This election is very important for the unifying good of the USA, please do not use the RACE card (ref. OJSimpson murder trial 13 years ago)against Mr. McCain who is competent ,well- experienced, dedicated public servant.
How about Obama’s association with Bill Ayers, Jeremial Wright…?, and millions of contribution dollars from undisclosed, dubious sources to Obama campaign? I want transparency,honesty, good judgement, experience in domestic and foreign affairs from a candidate.

Posted by: Hannah | October 8, 2008, 1:46 am 1:46 am

Sorry Shenia, but you’re completely making stuff up. Typical right-wing smear and desperation. Pathetic and sad, like calling a fellow debater “that one”. Or calling the media “liberal” when it’s just calling things how they are. EIGHT IS ENOUGH!

Posted by: Alex | October 8, 2008, 1:46 am 1:46 am

Truth, what web site and poll you lying hypocrite!

Posted by: It's time to know | October 8, 2008, 1:46 am 1:46 am

Face it folks…these are politicians saying anything they can to get elected.
None of them are innocent when it to campaign contributions, past associations or bad decisions.

Posted by: bak | October 8, 2008, 1:47 am 1:47 am

(( What won’t Obama produce his original Birth Certificate, his Certificate of Citizenship and his Oath of Allegiance taken at the age of majority? ))
Have you been hiding under a rock for the last year?
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
And others.. gee, what a troll.

Posted by: stephen | October 8, 2008, 1:47 am 1:47 am

Calling Obama “that one” made McCain look like a racist. For a career polician, McCain is either supremely stupid or attempting to use racial slurs that fly under the radar. Either way, its intolerable.

Posted by: Cygnia | October 8, 2008, 1:48 am 1:48 am

SG if I remember correctly before the debate ended when Brokaw was still trying to read his cue cards about the next debate he had to ask the two participants(McCain-Obama) to move aside because they were blocking his view. In other words they were at center stage shaking hands and talking.
Did you not see this?

Posted by: Don | October 8, 2008, 1:48 am 1:48 am

Just a note. The article to which we are responding is about Senator McCain’s “that one” reference, and so it is appropriate that we comment on it.

Posted by: lionheart46 | October 8, 2008, 1:49 am 1:49 am

Sorry Hannah, but you have to use the race card after seeing this pathetic performance by McSame tonight. It was a degrading, patronizing thing to say. Very poor form. Not to mention McSame voted against MLK Jr.’s birthday being observed as a holiday. And if you can’t perform in a Presidential debate, how can one possibly run the country in a moment of extreme crisis?

Posted by: Rick | October 8, 2008, 1:49 am 1:49 am

No there, there.
I thought the biggest screw up of the night came when Obama slipped up and said the evil credit card companies make their home in Delaware. You could tell he was trying to take the words back as he said them. Why do they make their home in Delaware, is it because Biden is in their back pocket? Also when Obama said maybe some of you will remember how it was after 9/11. I didn’t see anyone under 7 in the audience so I think it is safe to assume everyone would remember.

Posted by: pennsylvaniavoter | October 8, 2008, 1:49 am 1:49 am

“That one”, an unfortunate slip of the tongue, was awkward but McCain was nervous and likely said it because….well, I can’t think of a good reason, actually.

Posted by: old_hippie | October 8, 2008, 1:49 am 1:49 am

And you’ve been there for every time the Oath of Allegiance was taken…at every event…

Posted by: bak | October 8, 2008, 1:49 am 1:49 am

I noticed a few times Senator McCain referring to Senator Obama’s staff as “Cronies” did anyone else catch this? I think Senator McCain is not tactful. I have no idea of whether he is racist or not nor do I care as many americans are (not referring to just whites – ALL americans) however I do believe that he is not respectful toward Senator Obama and he should be. I think he is rude, crass and I personally hope he doesn’t win the election because I feel that we will have 4 more agonizing years just like the last 8 not to mention he seems to have anger fits; not becoming of a US President in my opinion. Good luck Senator Obama, I will be voting for you.

Posted by: Kendall | October 8, 2008, 1:49 am 1:49 am

After 10 reviews of computer memory, we saw McCain introduce his wife Cindy to Obama. However, Obama never introduced his wife Michelle to McCain. In Fact, Michelle never looked Cindy in the eyes. How immature of Michelle not to look Cindy in the eyes.
No to Obama’s policies that doom America.

Posted by: Truth | October 8, 2008, 1:49 am 1:49 am

“That One” for President of the UNITED States of America !

Posted by: PulSamsara | October 8, 2008, 1:49 am 1:49 am

this is absolutely ridiculous. i found it disrespectful when obama kept referring to mccain as john at the last debate but nobody made any bones about it. stop your whining! this is pathetic romper room kind of discussions. like obama is some sort of sacred cow. get over it sweetie.

Posted by: venus | October 8, 2008, 1:50 am 1:50 am

The mainstream media has justified ignoring this story based on a “conspiracy theory” chain email (politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/465) making the rounds from some African missionaries. Politifact.com examined the email—which claims Obama gave $1MM to Odinga’s campaign—and declared it “a pants on fire”.
However, the underlying (more important issues) are verifiably true. In August and September 2006, Senator Barack Obama traveled to South Africa, Chad, Djibouti, Ethiopia, Chad and Kenya as a congressional delegation of one (Codel Obama) (“Codel Obama” The Hill 9/7/2006) While in Kenya, Obama consistently appeared at the side of fellow Luo Raila Odinga (“your agent for change’), who was running for President. (“Senator Rebukes Kenya’s Corruption” Chicago Sun Times 8/29/2006) Because of his African heritage, Obama was treated as a virtual “Head of State” in Kenya While campaigning with Odinga, Obama was openly critical of governmental corruption under President Mibaki –usually a fair, if undiplomatic, criticism from an objective observer.
However, Kibaki’s government has been better than most—and Odinga has his own corruption issues.(
“Loud and Populist, But No Political Outsider” The Guardian 12/29/2007)
Obama’s partisan support for Odinga was considered so transparent, that the Kenyan Government spokesman, Alfred Matua, complained of political posturing to aid Odinga’s election chances: “It is very clear that the senator has been used as a puppet to perpetuate opposition politics,”(“Walking The World Stage” Newsweek 9/11/06) And, “…we earlier thought he was mature in his assessment of Kenyan and African politics,” Mutua told AFP.”We forgive him because it is his first time in the Senate and he is yet to mature into understanding issues of foreign policy,” he said.”(“Obama’s Kenya Honeymoon Ends Abruptly After Graft Rebuke” 8/29/06) Subsequently, Ambassador Ogingo Ogego made a public complaint to the US.(“Kenyan Envoy Kicks Off Diplomatic Row” My Africa 9/27/2006)
Raila Odinga subsequently lost the controversial (probably rigged) presidential election. In what appeared to many—including Human Rights Watch– as a coordinated strategy from the top, (“Violence We Fled was Planned, Say Kenyan Refugees” Reuters 1/26/2008 and “Kenya: Violence Planned Before Poll, Says Report” The Nation 3/18/2008) his Luo supporters (a core of whom call themselves The Taliban”(“Ethnic Gangs Rile Kenyan Slums” Newsweek 1/10/08)) engaged in what US Envoy Jendayi Frazer called “clear ethnic cleansing” (“US Envoy Calls Violence in Kenya ‘Ethnic Cleansing’” USA Today 1/30/2008) of the Kikuyu opposition.

Posted by: It's time to know | October 8, 2008, 1:50 am 1:50 am

This lawsuit againdt Obama and the DNC could be the October “surprise”. The DNC and Obama are fighting this lawsuit to produce his Original Birth certificate, Certificate of Citizenship and Oath of Allegiance.
B O should cooperate with the federal court or remove himself from the election.

Posted by: Ginger | October 8, 2008, 1:50 am 1:50 am

“Keating-5 days”
And 3 of them are backing Barry. Go figure.

Posted by: Mack | October 8, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am

Obama talks that McCain cannot multi-task. Yet, Obama wants to handle America’s problems one at a time. Moreover, Obama supporter call McCain too old when Obama cannot multi-task
No to Obama’s policies that doom America.

Posted by: Truth | October 8, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am

Why hasn’t the media picked up that McCain’s was hesitant to shake Obamas hand at the end? Also, when McCain referred to Omaba as ‘that guy’ that really changed my opinion of McCain. He was on edge all night.
The other thing the media didn’t pick up on, is McCain said he knew how to find Osama Ben Laden, and when I become president, I’ll get him. Well why has he kept this a secret? why hasn’t he told our generals or our President. I am afraid McCain is now desperate, eratic and out of control

Posted by: william | October 8, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am

I am blown away that people are trying to make something out of “that one”. Everyone watching knew exactly what he meant. He was saying that Obama voted for the bill that McCain voted against yet Obama was trying to distort his record to say he was the one voting for tax cuts for the oil companies. It was in NO WAY racist or even rude. I personally think it is insulting to those people who have actually been victims of racism to equate such a harmless statement into racism. And we wonder why Republicans and Independents hate us Democrats….b/c of just this kind of thing! Please, grow up. You may not like McCain but there has NEVER been any kind of indication of racism on his part. However, there seems to be A TON of ageism in these posts. I personally find it offensive.

Posted by: sarah | October 8, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am

Did McCain forget to mention he was a POW ? I have heard about it 100000 times before, but I was expecting to be reminded of it one more time.

Posted by: Jong | October 8, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am

I’m DEFINITELY voting for
‘ THAT ONE ‘!
Get your consession speech ready McCain !

Posted by: Steve | October 8, 2008, 1:52 am 1:52 am

I found may of McCain’s comments condesending and out of line,Palin-esque if you will. He is clearly desprate and running out of time. She is always quick to make a rude remark or laugh at the opponent. Is this the person you want running your country? I didn’t think so.

Posted by: Lauren | October 8, 2008, 1:53 am 1:53 am

dinga’s supporters went on a rampage—burning Kikuyu homes and businesses, (“Ethnic Cleansing in Luoland” The Economist 2/7/2008) raping Kikuyu women, and murdering everyoOne in their path—including at least 50 Christian Kikuyu woman & children who had sought refuge in a church. They burned them alive. (“Mob Burns Kenyans Seeking Refuge In Church” CNN 1/10/2008)
“We have evidence that ODM [Odinga’s party] politicians and local leaders actively fomented some post-election violence,” Georgette Gagnon, acting Africa director for the New York based Human Rights Watch (HRW), said on Thursday.” (Violence We Fled was Planned, Say Kenyan Refugees” Ibid)
So: who is Raila Odinga that Senator Obama would expend his political capital and risk the goodwill of half the population of Kenya?
Their relationship is unclear. The BBC initially reported that Obama and Odinga were first cousins.(“Odinga Says Obama is His Cousin” 1/8/2008) The Obama campaign has since denied a familial relationship. Raila Odinga’s father Oginga Odinga was leader of the “Kenya People’s Union” and perceived as a “committed socialist” (“Oginga Odinga: Kenya’s Most Persecuted Politician” Kenya: Key Issues 8/21.2002). Odinga Sr. was also the political ally of fellow Luo; Barack Obama Sr.(The Risks of Knowledge (Ohio University Press, 2004) p. 182)
What we do know about Odinga is not good. A former Minister of Energy, Odinga is reported to have been set up in the oil business by the al Bakri Group and Muammar Quaddafi (“How Rich is Raila-The ODM Kenya Presidential Aspirant?” African Press 4/26/2007) Abdel Qader Bakri (or- Abdulkader al Bakri) was listed on the infamous “Golden Chain”–an internal Al-Queda list of wealthy Saudi financial sponsors seized by Bosnian police in a Islamic “charity” raid in 2001. (“Terrorist Financing Staff Monograph 9/11 Commission and “The Golden Chain”) According to his website, Odinga was educated in Communist East Germany, (Herder Institute, Leipzig & Otto von Guericke Tech. Institute, Magdeburg) (http://www.raila07.com) Odinga’s eldest son is named “Fidel” (http://www.raila07.com)
Perhaps most troubling is Odinga’s links to Islamic extremists in Kenya. According to Voice of America and the Evangelical Alliance of Kenya, on 8/29/07, Odinga signed a secret agreement (exposed 11/27) with Sheikh Abdullah Abdi of the National Muslim
Leaders Forum (NAMLEF) in which he agreed to institute Islamic law in exchange for Abdi’s support (eakenya.org)–thereby potentially disenfranchising and curtailing the liberties of millions of Christian Kenyan women. Further, he promised that Muslims suspected of terrorism would be safe from extradition—thereby establishing a ‘safe haven’ for terrorists in Kenya.
After the public outcry, Odinga denied signing a secret agreement. Angry at Odinga’s apparent repudiation, a member of NAMLEF subsequently released the agreement to the press. Odinga then claimed the document was a forgery, but acknowledged a secret agreement had been signed in exchange for Muslim support. Finally, under constant pressure, Odinga released what he claimed was the actual document (“Real” MOU) a considerably watered down version of the original; but still anathema to many Christian groups. “In response to the revelations, The Evangelical Alliance of Kenya released a statement in which church leaders said Raila, in both MOUs, ‘comes across as a presumptive Muslim president bent on forcing Islamic law, religion and culture down the throats of the Kenyan people in total disregard of the Constitutionally guaranteed rights of freedom of worship and equal protection of the law’” (“Concerns Raised Over Alleged Vow To Enforce Islamic Law in Kenya” Christian Post 12/18/2007) To many westerners, the idea of imposing Sharia in a predominantly Christian country may have seemed fanciful. However, Kenya has had Sharia courts for family law (not criminal law)—called Khadi courts—since 1963.

Posted by: It's time to know | October 8, 2008, 1:53 am 1:53 am

Why hasn’t the media picked up that McCain’s was hesitant to shake Obamas hand at the end? Also, when McCain referred to Omaba as ‘that one’ that really changed my opinion of McCain. He was on edge all night.
The other thing the media didn’t pick up on, is McCain said he knew how to find Osama Ben Laden, and when I become president, I’ll get him. Well why has he kept this a secret? why hasn’t he told our generals or our President. I am afraid McCain is now desperate, eratic and out of control

Posted by: william | October 8, 2008, 1:53 am 1:53 am

Here is a good look at government run healthcare. Click the link:
http://www.theadvocates.org/freeman/8903lemi.html
Obama states my plan is not socialized medicine, but it is heading in that direction.
No to Obama’s policies that doom America

Posted by: Truth | October 8, 2008, 1:53 am 1:53 am

When Barry loses we’ll all be called racists.

Posted by: Mack | October 8, 2008, 1:53 am 1:53 am

MCCAIN 08 ALL THE WAY “THAT ONE” IS GOING DOWN

Posted by: RL | October 8, 2008, 1:54 am 1:54 am

Grand ole Party…the reason why Mccain didnt bring up Fannie and Freddie because Mccain has taken money from them too. His TOP advisor Rick Davis was still on the payroll from last month.
coolrepublica…STUPID COMMENT!
When we elect George Bush, we never said oh he’s setting “white people” back although he is giving us a bad name/bad debt/bad leadership!

Posted by: Illinois resident | October 8, 2008, 1:54 am 1:54 am

not a big deal. it has absolutely zero effect on the REAL issues facing this country. mccain was simply trying to connect to everyday americans like palin did but failed miserablely. if obama isn’t offended, than neither should anyone else since it was directed at obama and not you. everyone trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill needs to take a deep breath and chill. mccain may be dumb, but he’s not racist and it was a harmless comment on his part.

Posted by: rob | October 8, 2008, 1:55 am 1:55 am

Obama wants to put Americans back to work with bridge and road building. Just how many Americans can operate heavy construction equipment? How many Americans want a pick and shovel job.
Obama’s taxes will tax those industries and businesses that can put America back to work. Industry and business need their earnings for research, advertising, expansion, tools, and machinery. Obama’s tax plan will strangle American business and industry. America cannot get back to be a productive country by road and bridge building.
No to Obama’s policies that doom America

Posted by: Truth | October 8, 2008, 1:55 am 1:55 am

McCain used to be a respectable man. But after the campaign he has run this year, I have lost all respect for him. Greed for power has led him to compromise on his principles. Sad old man.

Posted by: Amber | October 8, 2008, 1:56 am 1:56 am

I hope the Federal Judge will stop Obama’s run for the presidency, if he doesn’t produce the court ordered documents. “If” Obama is an American, why won’t he produce his Original Birth certificate, Certificate of Citizenship and Oath of Allegiance?
What is Obama hiding?

Posted by: Oren Young FL | October 8, 2008, 1:56 am 1:56 am

Did anyone notice how shakey and out of breath McCain seemed during the second half of the debate ? I was worried he was going to have a HEART ATTACK ! I think we’d have to worry about that for FOUR YEARS ! And Palen take over ? You’ve GOT to be kidding !!
‘ That One ‘ is getting my vote !

Posted by: Lauren | October 8, 2008, 1:57 am 1:57 am

What is with you guys and the oath of allegiance?

Posted by: bak | October 8, 2008, 1:57 am 1:57 am

Obama will not have sufficient taxes to finance his poorly organized financial plans for America‘s recovery. Obama’s financial plan will far exceed tax collections. I hear Obama stating he will close tax loopholes that business and industry use. The so-called tax loopholes Obama speaks about are the legal deductions business and industry need for their research, advertising, expansion, tools, and machinery.
Obama supporters are like Obama, they know nothing about economics, financing business and industry. All Obama supporter can pick up their picks and shovels at any Democrat headquarters.
No to Obama’s policies that doom America.

Posted by: Truth | October 8, 2008, 1:58 am 1:58 am

– Obama went against the Federal Judge and refused to produce his “vault” (original long version) Birth Certificate, his Certificate of Citizenship and his Oath of Allegiance taken by Obama taken at the age of majority. –
Dang.. I was born in Indiana, and don’t have one of those “Certificate of Citizenship” things, nor did I take any “Oath Of Allegiance” when I reached the “age of majority” (I’m assuming you mean when I turned 18?? Hard to tell with some of you).
All I did when I turned 18 was kill a bottle of tequila with some friends and had sex with my girlfriend. Does that mean I haven’t been a citizen for the last 50+ years?

Posted by: Concerned American | October 8, 2008, 1:58 am 1:58 am

What? The Obama camp wants to play the race card again and again and again?
I am shocked.

Posted by: One_American | October 8, 2008, 1:58 am 1:58 am

That is not a “document” one can produce

Posted by: bak | October 8, 2008, 1:58 am 1:58 am

how dare mccain refer to the messiah as ‘that one’. nothing but romper room rantings here. our economy is on the brink of collapse and your whining that somebody referred to bambi as ‘that one’ ridiculous. goodnight.

Posted by: venus | October 8, 2008, 1:58 am 1:58 am

Hannah talk about issues. Right now you sound like Elizabeth Hasselb…on the View. NO ONE WANTS TO HEAR THAT!
Talk about John Mccain’s plan. Negativity like that doesn’t get far with Americans.

Posted by: Illinois resident | October 8, 2008, 1:58 am 1:58 am

“that one” is an old highly racist term used by old white people of the previous generation. both McCain and Sarah Palin have repeatedly indicated their racism and bigotry reflected in their comments and inferences. it is disgusting and immoral and they should be ashamed of themselves. i am a pacific islander woman (hawaiian) and have heard the same junk whenever i go to a “red state” on the mainland. one day, we will all evolve to a point or generation whereby these immoral racist creatures have finally died off and we can live in harmony. shame on you McCain and double shame on you, Sarah Palin – you claim to be a Christian but you speak in racist tongues.

Posted by: mailani808 | October 8, 2008, 1:58 am 1:58 am

McCain says “That One” in public so we know what he says in private.

Posted by: McCain/Palin = Corporations First | October 8, 2008, 1:59 am 1:59 am

thanks One_American

Posted by: bak | October 8, 2008, 1:59 am 1:59 am

Obama’s healthcare plan will cause private healthcare plans to rise in cost. People will not have a choice to select a private healthcare program because of the private healthcare higher costs. This will be the start of socialized medicine and it will feed large sums of taxpayer’s money into the pockets of the pharmaceutical companies and the medical professions.
No to Obama’s policies that doom America.

Posted by: Truth | October 8, 2008, 2:00 am 2:00 am

“That one” … hmmmm …, as a world leader you should refer to people’s status by name official title, or MR/ Mrs/Ms … whether a racist attack or just a sign of disrespect, or just plain political wording; neither belong in the The White House as the leader of a major “World” power!!!

Posted by: ediaz | October 8, 2008, 2:00 am 2:00 am

Any business making over $250,000 is a very profitable business. One that can afford a tax rate identical to the one the upper class was paying during your beloved Reagan years. So suck it with the whole “tax” issue, Obama’s only raising taxes slightly on the rich, to Reagan levels. Problem with McSame tonight was that in addition to the MAJOR gaffes (sorry, but he blew it tonight with this comment), he failed to connect, again, to the middle class. Still can’t say those two words together: “Middle Class”. And they’re the ones who are going to decide this election. Not you kook scum right-wingers, like the previous two elections.

Posted by: Alex | October 8, 2008, 2:02 am 2:02 am

I was adopted when I was about 3 months old and have a very short birth certificate…only the mother’s maiden name. Does that mean I don’t have a “vault” certificate?

Posted by: bak | October 8, 2008, 2:02 am 2:02 am

– Obama will not have sufficient taxes to finance his poorly organized financial plans for America‘s recovery. Obama’s financial plan will far exceed tax collections. –
Hey, Newsflash: Neither will McCain.. they are both projected to raise the deficit, and McCain by more than Obama!
http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/
But hey, we don’t have sufficient money to pay for the $10 billion a month in Iraq, or that $700 billion bailout plan, or even the $500 billion for normal government spending Bush is burning through either!

Posted by: Concerned American | October 8, 2008, 2:02 am 2:02 am

Obama, I thank you for pointing out a Palin family connection to an independent group in Alaska. It proves that Todd and Sarah Palin want of separation from the business as usual crowd and the corruption in Washington, D.C. Obama supporters forget their American history of why the American colonies wanted to separate from the mother country England. The Palin family is as American as our ancestors are. The Palin family does not consort with terrorists like has been shown about Obama.
Sarah Palin will bring more change into Washington, D.C. than Obama.
Obama is showing association with Anti-Americans wanting to destroy American values. The Palin family is American in all their values and we do NOT see any Palin friends standing on the American flag. Ayers wiped his feet on the American flag. Obama has proven Anti-American ties that want to destroy America.
No to Obama’s policies that doom America.

Posted by: Truth | October 8, 2008, 2:02 am 2:02 am

When Barry loses we’ll all be called racists.
Posted by: Mack | Oct 8, 2008 1:53:55 AM
—————————————-
We already know what you are so why wait for the election?

Posted by: McCain/Palin = Corporations First | October 8, 2008, 2:03 am 2:03 am

McCain got spanked tonight. Or, more precisely, spanked himself.

Posted by: ToastOnDayOne | October 8, 2008, 2:03 am 2:03 am

McCain calls Obama “that one,” and Palin tells Gwen Ifill she won’t answer her questions. If McCain and Palin aren’t being racist, they ARE being very rude!

Posted by: Cammy | October 8, 2008, 2:03 am 2:03 am

the old one who looks like he needs a cane should have a seat and take his metimucil and preparation H.

Posted by: dude4thechoosen one | October 8, 2008, 2:03 am 2:03 am

“Obama’s healthcare plan will cause private healthcare plans to rise in cost.”
He plans on paying for his healthcare program by collecting fines from the people that can’t afford the coverage.

Posted by: Mack | October 8, 2008, 2:04 am 2:04 am

You wanna lie and cheat, fine! The FBI is watching you ABC, and who you work with, and who operate with ABC! You want to block certain posts, this is you’re final warning before action, think twice about your double standard and law breaking. Your bloggers are breaking the law, and we are watching you!

Posted by: Hello! | October 8, 2008, 2:04 am 2:04 am

McCain is a Racist senile old man, and have no place in the White House not even as a Senator.He is desperate because he is losing in the polls. he will lower himselfe to get to the White House, but in the eye’s of most American’s he is doing more harm than good for himselfe by putting himselfe deeper in the hole using words like that.”GOD BLESS OBAMA” “YES WE CAN” and “YES WE WILL”> We have supported White Canadiate for over two hundred years and it is time to return the favor, the favor of Voting for a Black Man for President of the United State of America.

Posted by: Richard | October 8, 2008, 2:04 am 2:04 am

In the final debate between Senator McCain and Obama, the lawsuit against Obama will be front and center. Obama’s refusal to provide the requested paperwork to the Federal Judge will sink “That One”. Obama should have provided the needed paperwork to the Court as requested.
Obama, produce your Original Birth certificate, Certificate of Citizenship and Oath of Allegiance or leave our country.

Posted by: Wilma F. | October 8, 2008, 2:05 am 2:05 am

“If McCain and Palin aren’t being racist, they ARE being very rude!”
Yes, everyone that doesn’t support “the one” or that one are racists.

Posted by: Mack | October 8, 2008, 2:05 am 2:05 am

Steven, Hanna
It was the presidential debate. Millions saw how RUDE that comment was! Plain out RUDE! It was uncall for and I am embarrass for Mccain! Independents…including myself do not over look comments such as this. As a presidential nominee, you are to remain professional at all times!

Posted by: Illinois resident | October 8, 2008, 2:05 am 2:05 am

Tax cuts– If you take from the rich and give to the poor because your Socialistic ideas tell you that individuals should not be wealthy has nothing to do with taxes. It is simply Obama’s way of introducing socialism to our great country. And when he does this non constitutional act of stealing peoples money in the guise of tax reform, people in this great country are going to tell him to stuff it by taking their business to other countries. Others will simply make up to the max $250,000 and stop earning more. Others will simply say screw it because once Obama puts his steal from the wealthy and give to the poor people from across America will not have the incentive to go for the American dream.
CHECK the history of CUBA. When Castro took over there were many wealthy Cubans and he took it all. Well where is Cuba today? All of you libs had better get a grip and look what is going to happen to our great country if he is elected.

Posted by: Don | October 8, 2008, 2:05 am 2:05 am

What is a “Certificate of Citizenship”?

Posted by: bak | October 8, 2008, 2:05 am 2:05 am

I get more and more scared of McCain/Palin with every passing day!
I’m glad the Secret Service is looking into the “kill him!” incident at Palin’s Nazi Youth rally.

Posted by: Samantha | October 8, 2008, 2:06 am 2:06 am

– Obama’s healthcare plan will cause private healthcare plans to rise in cost. People will not have a choice to select a private healthcare program because of the private healthcare higher costs. –
Bzzt.. wrong on both counts. The increased competition with the addition of another insurance provider will cause them to reduce costs in order to compete. And under Obamas plan, not only will you be able to select your health care provider just like you can now, the policy will be portable so you can carry it over from job to job! Plus, the increased number of insured Americans added to the system will increase revenue to health providers making them more profitable, stimulating the economy, and the tax benefits to companies providing health insurance to employers will save them an estimated $140 billion a year.. Neat how that works, isn’t it!
http://www.epi.org/content.cfm/pm126

Posted by: Concerned American | October 8, 2008, 2:07 am 2:07 am

My 6 year old daughter has started referring to John McCain as “grouchy old McCain”. After tonight I’m inclined to agree with her. Manners and respect go a long way. Sad.

Posted by: klpinaz | October 8, 2008, 2:07 am 2:07 am

The disdain he shows for Obama, or any political opponent, is one thing, what does he do when he has to talk with people from other countries that he really doesn’t like?
You want this man as president?

Posted by: Thinking | October 8, 2008, 2:08 am 2:08 am

A man that would diminish the humanity of a currently sitting United States Senator from the State of Illinois would EASILY diminish the value of a hard-working American from any other state paying taxes and trying hard to keep hope and head afloat. There is no excuse for that attitude, because it is indicative of his core belief. No wonder he always says “My Friends!” To me, it proves that McCain holds little strength in relationship with the American people. Friends can be replaced, and are fleeting over time.
It’s very simple.
If he would diminish even one man’s humanity, he would diminish mine.
John McCain cannot be my president.

Posted by: I am a Human Being | October 8, 2008, 2:08 am 2:08 am

You are a dreamer to think fines will pay for all you healthcare costs. You are out of touch with reality.
Go pick up your shovel and pick to start Obama’s road and bridge building program
No to Obama’s policies that doom America.

Posted by: Truth | October 8, 2008, 2:09 am 2:09 am

WHERE IS KB

Posted by: RL | October 8, 2008, 2:11 am 2:11 am

McCain was rude and disrespectful with that remark. He’s the crabby old man with a huge sense of entitlement. He’s losing so now his true character shows. It did have a tinge of racism to me, but more of a flavor of old, rich and entitled–and furious it isn’t paying off for him.

Posted by: kattheaunt | October 8, 2008, 2:11 am 2:11 am

– If you take from the rich and give to the poor because your Socialistic ideas tell you that individuals should not be wealthy has nothing to do with taxes. –
Got to get revenue from somewhere, and they are the ones who can most afford it. And anyway, the tax increase will be less than it was under Clinton..
I see the trolls are out in full force tonight.. guess they have to make up for that poor performance in the debate tonight.

Posted by: Concerned American | October 8, 2008, 2:12 am 2:12 am

“You want this man as president?”
He’ll do for 4 years. This country couldn’t survive Obama, Ayers and Wright. We’d be a third world country by the time his term ended. No Obama ever.

Posted by: Mack | October 8, 2008, 2:12 am 2:12 am

If you sling crap you end up surrounded by stinky stuff; the stink permeates you and starts to waft out in several ways including blatant disrespect for a Presidential candidate presently supported by a majority of Americans. That disrespects all of us. McCain/Palin are adversely impacting my olfactory organs. There ought to be a law.

Posted by: RespectAmericans | October 8, 2008, 2:13 am 2:13 am

McCain is nothing more than a REDNECK KLANSMAN in a Senator’s suit. Martin Luther King Holiday NO. To Black Man – You wouldn’t know about Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. To Senator Obama – THIS ONE.
McCain was no Fu**ing WAR HERO. He was a WAR ZERO. How did he get captured?? A maverick DISREGARDING orders???
McCain THE COWARD SOLD OUT TO THE VIETNAMESE AND SIGNED A CONFESSION. HE was not war hero. He sat his A** in Vietnam and DISHONORED his Admiral father and grandfather. A war HERO would never have signed a confession!!
Here’s his dispotition towards blacks, stated in his writing, “I am a black criminal and I have performed the deeds of an air pirate. I almost died and the Vietnamese people saved my life, thanks to the doctors.”
Dad was an Admiral, Gramps was an Admiral, I’m ENTITLED to be president..
NOT!!!!
MY FRIENDS, THIS ONE sould take his 100,000,000 ELITIST self back to ARIZONA, and take the rest of the RACISTS with him!!!

Posted by: AMERICANFOREVER | October 8, 2008, 2:15 am 2:15 am

When Barry loses we’ll all be called racists.
Posted by: Mack | Oct 8, 2008 1:53:55 AM
—————————————-
Exactly! McCain apparently feel he’s entitled to the presidency and “That One” has no business challenging him.

Posted by: McCain/Palin = Corporations First | October 8, 2008, 2:16 am 2:16 am

during the debate Mccain kept saying he knows how to get bin Laden and he will get him. Can someone please ask him why does he not tell our arm forces and general Patreas how capture and kill him if he really knows how to do. why is he waiting to become the president and than do it him self. why is he siolent for 7 or 8 years. should we call him a liar or traitor??
what a loser

Posted by: RahimAli | October 8, 2008, 2:16 am 2:16 am

i came to this blog expecting some intelligent post debate discussion but all i see is THE RACE CARD AGAIN. grow up. or at least broaden your talking points. if you over use the race card it becomes irrelevant when a legitimate race issue comes up.

Posted by: octoberlight | October 8, 2008, 2:17 am 2:17 am

Pay no attention to the ‘Truth’ poster.. he/she/it is not a McCain supporter, simply an anti-Obama troll

Posted by: jj1221 | October 8, 2008, 2:17 am 2:17 am

Healthcare costs are going higher because prescription medicine is the fourth leading cause of sickness and death. Obama cannot control medical cost that are heading sky high, Insurance costs are high because the carriers know of the faults in today’s medical professions. Time for a wake up call for another Obama dreamer. There is no competition.
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/09/23/history-proves-many-doctors-recommendations-are-disasters.aspx?source=nl
No to Obama’s policies that doom America.

Posted by: Truth | October 8, 2008, 2:17 am 2:17 am

My Dear fellow Americans, we all want what is best and right for our country. Lets open our eyes and look at these two candidates that want to be our leader and the leader of the free world. As an American watching candidates speak I have never seen someone refer to the other as “That One”. This tells us a lot about a candidate. If he cannot provide simple respect for an individual then what can we expect from him? Then this only points to the fact that McCain has his own agenda and does not care about us, what we think, and what is right for our country. This I think is just the tip of the iceberg and there are other character traits that he has that would be dangerous for our America. I pray to god that he loses, and I will vote to make a difference.

Posted by: Steve Coburn | October 8, 2008, 2:17 am 2:17 am

I read over the lawsuit regarding Obama and his questionable citizenship. The lawsuit demands Obama produce three sets of paperwork: Original Birth certificate, Certificate of Citizenship and Oath of Allegiance.
If Obama goes against the Federal Judge, then McCain will win.
The outcome of this lawsuit will be very interesting for that one.
Read: http://www.obamacrimes.com

Posted by: Interesting... | October 8, 2008, 2:17 am 2:17 am

“Exactly! McCain apparently feel he’s entitled to the presidency and “That One” has no business challenging him. ”
Hey isn’t that what Pastor Wright, and Father Pfleger said about Hillary as they were gyrating on stage? Everyone feels entitled except the affirmative action candidate.

Posted by: Mack | October 8, 2008, 2:19 am 2:19 am

was it me or did it look like mccain was about to have a cardiac arrest? Dudes not looking to well and palin as pres. is even worse!

Posted by: happyharry | October 8, 2008, 2:19 am 2:19 am

OBAMA IS WHITE! OBAMA IS WHITE! OBAMA IS WHITE! PLEASE STOP CALLING HIM BLACK! HE IS A WHITE MAN

Posted by: RL | October 8, 2008, 2:19 am 2:19 am

the use of “that one” was just another “senior moment”. time for bed gramps

Posted by: Joe A | October 8, 2008, 2:19 am 2:19 am

Get your “I’m voting for That One” t-shirts at cafepress.com

Posted by: jward | October 8, 2008, 2:20 am 2:20 am

Just like an Obama supporter, that avoids the truth, just use name-calling.
No to Obama’s policies that doom America.

Posted by: Truth | October 8, 2008, 2:21 am 2:21 am

Posted by: raknyc | October 8, 2008, 2:21 am 2:21 am

“Get your “I’m voting for That One” t-shirts at cafepress.com”
Yes so that everyone can point at you and laugh.

Posted by: Mack | October 8, 2008, 2:22 am 2:22 am

I noticed a few times Senator McCain referring to Senator Obama’s staff as “Cronies” did anyone else catch this? I think Senator McCain is not tactful. I have no idea of whether he is racist or not nor do I care as many americans are (not referring to just whites – ALL americans) however I do believe that he is not respectful toward Senator Obama and he should be. I think he is rude, crass and I personally hope he doesn’t win the election because I feel that we will have 4 more agonizing years just like the last 8 not to mention he seems to have anger fits; not becoming of a US President in my opinion. Good luck Senator Obama, I will be voting for you.

Posted by: Kendall | October 8, 2008, 2:23 am 2:23 am

McCain probably just forgot his name, hey i’m 80 years old and do it all the time…so lay off and give the man a break
McCain probaly just forgot his name, hey i,m 80 years old and do it all the time…so lay off an give the man a break

Posted by: oneida01 | October 8, 2008, 2:24 am 2:24 am

“read about the real war hero here…
http://www.rollingstone.com
Yeah, they’re just to the right of High Times magazine. They also glorify drug addicts like Keith Richards and Amy Winehouse.

Posted by: Mack | October 8, 2008, 2:24 am 2:24 am

Here is something better to read:
http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaLatest.htm
No to Obama’s policies that doom America.

Posted by: Truth | October 8, 2008, 2:24 am 2:24 am

GROW UP ! THAT ONE! MUSLIM, BABY KILLER! ALL THE SAME!

Posted by: RL | October 8, 2008, 2:25 am 2:25 am

Is Palin unqualified? Is McCain a racist? Who cares at this point?
I know one thing they both are for sure…LOSERS…get ready for it GOP…repeat after me…President Obama.
The American people have had ENOUGH nothing will change the results in 4 weeks…I can’t wait

Posted by: Cindy | October 8, 2008, 2:25 am 2:25 am

what was with the old geezer wandering around the stage while Obama was talking? I was waiting for an orderly to help him find his seat.

Posted by: Joe A | October 8, 2008, 2:26 am 2:26 am

In the last election, Kerry was up by 8 points, at this point in time.
Remember the “Tortoise and Hare” story. Obama is very smug and over confident. Another “bitter” comment will sink “the one”.

Posted by: Norman | October 8, 2008, 2:26 am 2:26 am

Are you kidding me?!?! You libs are crying over the reference “That one”? How immature and petty you all are … always scratching at the bottom of the barrel. Do you honestly think any candidate would DARE utter a racist comment in front of millions of people?? You racist fanatics are America at its worst. GET OVER IT ALREADY!!! MOVE ON!!

Posted by: Bogey | October 8, 2008, 2:26 am 2:26 am

– He’ll do for 4 years. This country couldn’t survive Obama, Ayers and Wright. We’d be a third world country by the time his term ended. No Obama ever. –
Absolutely correct.. why have tenuous connections with terrorists and racists when you can have the real deal..
McCain, the man who sat on the advisory board of the US council for world freedom, the american branch of the World Anti-Communist League and supporter of groups it’s chairman claimed they “promoted pro-Nazi groups” and was “virulently anti-Semitic”, and even at one point was funding Bin Laden. Or lets not forget McCains fondness of the KLA (Kosovo Liberation Army) and has provided legislative funding and arming so they could conduct some of the most brutal and savage terrorist activities. And he continues to support them to this day.
You are correct sir.. why put a ‘wannabe’ in office when with McCain you can have the real deal!

Posted by: Concerned American | October 8, 2008, 2:26 am 2:26 am

so what is the latest with the judge berg order for ‘that one’ to release his original birth certificate?

Posted by: octoberlight | October 8, 2008, 2:26 am 2:26 am

if i was mccain, i’d dump the wife for palin, she’s younger/cuter/dumber…..hell he might have already.

Posted by: dudewheresmybrain | October 8, 2008, 2:27 am 2:27 am

Then there is this to read:
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/barack-obamas-church-ultra-left-and-afrocentric
No to Obama’s policies that doom America.

Posted by: Truth | October 8, 2008, 2:27 am 2:27 am

Check out obamataxcut.com
Then check the tax policy center (a nonpartisan group) to verify. It’s pretty easy to get educated on the tax issue, thankfully.

Posted by: kk | October 8, 2008, 2:27 am 2:27 am

I don’t worry so much about the “that one” although it clearly revealed McCain’s hatred (or disdain if you want a milder word) toward Obama (because he’s losing I guess).
What concerns me more is the race-baiting and downright hate mongering going on at McCain rallies and being spewed by some of the right-wing talking heads.
I can say from personal experience that it seems to be pushing some McCain supporters toward violence, if not against Obama then against people who support him.
I am in Texas, and since McCain started with this last week, I have gotten increasing hostility or downright aggression from (mostly) older, white men either when I am driving on the road (I have Obama stickers on my car) or when I wear my Obama button in public.
It has so far been limited to being cut off on the highway, or being glared or shouted at in the grocery store, but I don’t discount the fact it could get worse (I am still wearing my button and still have my stickers though–I am not easy to intimidate even if I am only about 5 feet tall).
Now just think, I am a petite, white, blonde woman with small children (with me when some of these things occurred). If they will act aggressively towards me because I support Obama, what does that lead you to conclude?

Posted by: Dee Dee Lynn | October 8, 2008, 2:27 am 2:27 am

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!!!!
McCAIN HAD TO WIN THIS ONE AND…..HE LOST BIG!!!
NBC = 60% Obama 40% McNasty!
CBS = 39% Obama 27% McSenile!
Greenberg Quinlan = 42% Obama 24% McNuts!
Survey USA = 54% Obama 24% McDummy!
CNN = 54% Obama 30% McKeating-5!
And for you Republicans, even FOX Noise called Obama the WINNER!!
McCain = Old Nasty fool – loser!
Palin = DOLT with lipstick – irrelevant!
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, , ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!!

Posted by: Davis | October 8, 2008, 2:28 am 2:28 am

“You are correct sir.. why put a ‘wannabe’ in office when with McCain you can have the real deal!”
At least we would have a US citizen. Hey Barry, where’s your real birth certificate? Time is running out. Acorn can’t help you now.

Posted by: Mack | October 8, 2008, 2:30 am 2:30 am

karl’s rove’s campaign to destroy mccain has nothing on the obama lemmings efforts right now

Posted by: chris | October 8, 2008, 2:30 am 2:30 am

Dear country. There are so many people that are upset over the fact that Obama might win the white house. People are actually pissed off. If we rename the white house the black house, maybe people will calm down, have themselves a hearty laugh and go on about their business. Just joking…..

Posted by: johnnylee | October 8, 2008, 2:30 am 2:30 am

That one that won.

Posted by: AlaN | October 8, 2008, 2:31 am 2:31 am

This is just a bunch of black and white voters for Obama talking about race calling. I’m black and can tell the difference between style’s of talk! I work in Washington, and ABC and Obama supporters like to point this in this race category and columns. Stupid! If some people(Democrat) want to talk about the inner city not being educated, why do you think they(democrats) target African-Americans the way they do. This election is not about race, but religion faith and belief. And Obama is more to the Muslim faith than most believe and understand. His church, and his travels to Africa, and his own family connections by blood, everybody should check into! Muslim’s are aloud to lie in defense of allah, for the progress of Islamic domination, dealing with infidels! Obama’s Lie’s are his connection to Islamic terrorism, through deceiving!

Posted by: Roll Call | October 8, 2008, 2:31 am 2:31 am

how can a guy run the country when he eats dinner at 4pm and nods off around 7?

Posted by: Joe A | October 8, 2008, 2:32 am 2:32 am

“That one that won.”
Won what? Did I miss something?

Posted by: Mack | October 8, 2008, 2:33 am 2:33 am

mccain supporters aren’t right wingers, they are simply really low class. hence the need to fuel hatred….

Posted by: matt | October 8, 2008, 2:33 am 2:33 am

Sen Obama should have refer to McCain as that old one. McCain is rude I don’t know how he became a hero.

Posted by: AlRam | October 8, 2008, 2:34 am 2:34 am

“how can a guy run the country when he eats dinner at 4pm and nods off around 7?”
At least he’s not looking to score crack at 3am.

Posted by: Mack | October 8, 2008, 2:34 am 2:34 am

You know Mack, every time you or one of the other right-wingers goes off on the birth certificate thing, you remind me of why the founding fathers opposed universal sufferage.
Should you not at least have to have a basic understanding of the laws of the country to vote?
You are (according to an act of Congress from about 1791 I think) a citizen of the US if you are the child of a citizen of the US, regardless of place of birth. So unless you are challenging the citizenship of Obama’s mother, he’s a citizen.
By the way, it is by that congressional act that you wish to ignore than McCain is a citizen, since he was born in Panama.

Posted by: Dee Dee Lynn | October 8, 2008, 2:34 am 2:34 am

Mack,
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!
Say hello to PRESIDENT OBAMA!!!!

Posted by: Davis | October 8, 2008, 2:35 am 2:35 am

I am waiting for the Stars and Bars poll to give their opinion.
http://www.mosbihq.org/
No to Obama’s policies that doom America.

Posted by: Truth | October 8, 2008, 2:36 am 2:36 am

It’s not a “RACE CARD” it’s the RACE FACTS!
It’s not a race card, when the whole deck is LOADED from the start with RACE CARDS.
YOUR PULL

Posted by: AMERICANFOREVER | October 8, 2008, 2:36 am 2:36 am

McCain is in congress for 26 years and did nothing. I wonder what he can do if elected for 4 years. ENOUGH!!!

Posted by: AlRam | October 8, 2008, 2:36 am 2:36 am

– Yeah, they’re just to the right of High Times magazine –
Yup, and won numerous awards, has one of the highest circulations of all major magazines, and actually provides direct quotes, interviews and research that, while written with a slant towards their younger audience, has not been refuted. Who hasn’t wanted to be on the cover of the Rolling Stone, and now John McCain made it!
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/

Posted by: Concerned American | October 8, 2008, 2:36 am 2:36 am

If you think Obama is going to cut your taxes while we’re in this financial crisis, you’re as dumb as a box of rocks. He’s going to say anything you want to hear because you’re naive enough to believe someone who’s NEVER, EVER had a REAL job!!! You can’t come up with ONE THING he has EVER done to prove his leadership for this country!!! NOT ONE THING!!!! Our country isn’t stupid enough to elect a President with NO experience! It’s not going to happen! BRAVO, McCAIN! You win again!!!

Posted by: Bogey | October 8, 2008, 2:37 am 2:37 am

How does anyone win? First of all, Democrats are the most popular with the lower and “Middle” class because they promise to tax the hell out of people who have become educated and worked hard for their money and don’t expect all this free money from the Govt. Let’s look at some facts, are most black people really listening to or caring about America’s real issues, or do they just want to shake things up and get a “Black” President. It isn’t that I wouldn’t agree to a black President, it’s just that I don’t want OBAMA. I believe that he truly isn’t out for the benefit of all American’s. I believe he has a self serving agenda. If Colin Powell or Condaleza Rice ran for President, I would vote for them IMMEDIATELY. Obama has associated with some VERY questionable people who have proven that they don’t agree with the American way of life, yet people are willing to over look this because it’s all about what’s in it for them. What can the Govt give them for free? I don’t believe that McCain is prejudice! I believe that many people want to portrait him as prejudice to pursue a non existent agenda. America is going to hell in a hand basket if Obama makes President. Mark my words. He won’t even put his hand over his heart when the National Anthem is played. WAKE UP AMERICA!

Posted by: Iggy | October 8, 2008, 2:38 am 2:38 am

“Won what? Did I miss something?”
yes, apparently you did

Posted by: Joe A | October 8, 2008, 2:38 am 2:38 am

No “roll call” or whoever you are, its not about Obama supporters calling it race-baiting. Those are words the Associated Press used.
What else does “he doesn’t think like us” or “he’s different from us” (said repeatedly by Secessionist Sarah) mean?
There have also been shouts of “kill him” and “assassinate him” as McCain rallies.
And I am just reporting aggression that I have personally experienced.
Perhaps there is just a random wave (suddenly) of people cutting me off in traffic for no apparent reason while gesturing at me.
Perhaps its just a coincidence that they tend to be older white men with “McCain” stickers on their vehicles.
Or perhaps not.
However, I can tell you by what has been shouted at me (thing I would NEVER repeat or write) that the aggression in the grocery store was clearly about Obama and clearly racially tinged.

Posted by: Dee Dee Lynn | October 8, 2008, 2:39 am 2:39 am

Barack Obama’s Health Care Record
ARLINGTON, VA — With Barack Obama lying about John McCain’s health care plan today, please find below the facts about Barack Obama’s health care record:
BARACK OBAMA RECENTLY ACKNOWLEDGED HIS PLAN WILL COST AT LEAST $150 BILLION A YEAR
Despite What He Claimed Today, Barack Obama Recently Said His Plan Will Cost At Least $150 Billion, Despite Earlier Claims That It Will Cost Much Less:
Barack Obama Said On “60 Minutes” That His Plan Would Cost At Least $150 Billion. CBS’ Steve Kroft: “How much is it going to cost? $150 billion it’s going to cost, right?” Obama: “It is. It is. But we pay for every dime that we propose to spend. I believe in pay as you go. That if you want to propose a new program, you better cut some old ones. If you want to expand a program, then you better figure out where the money’s coming from.” (CBS’ “60 Minutes,” 9/21/08)
Previously, Barack Obama Said His Plan Will Save The Average Person $2,500 Per Year And Will Cost Taxpayers Between $50-$65 Billion Per Year. “Obama said his plan could save the average consumer $2,500 a year and bring health care to all. Campaign aides estimated the cost of the program at $50 billion to $65 billion a year, financed largely by eliminating tax cuts for the wealthy that are scheduled to expire.” (Mike Glover, “The Time Has Come For Universal, Affordable Health Care, Obama Says,” The Associated Press, 5/29/07)
BARACK OBAMA’S CLAIM THAT HIS PLAN SAVES FAMILIES $2,500 IS BASED ON “MISLEADING MATH”
There Is “Zero Credible Evidence” That The Obama Plan Will Lower The Costs Insurance Premiums By $2,500, Which Is Based Off Of “Misleading Math”:
Obama’s Pledge To Lower Health Care Premiums By $2,500 In His First Term “Is A Matter Of Considerable Dispute” Among Experts. “In speech after speech, Senator Barack Obama has pledged that he will lower the country’s health care costs enough to ‘bring down premiums by $2,500 for the typical family.’ Moreover, Mr. Obama, the presumptive Democratic nominee, has promised that his health plan will be in place ‘by the end of my first term as president of the United States.’ Whether Mr. Obama can deliver is a matter of considerable dispute among health analysts and economists.” (Kevin Sack, “Obstacles For Obama In Meeting Health Care Goal,” The New York Times, 7/23/08)
A Health Policy Professor At The University Of North Carolina-Chapel Hill Said The Savings In The Obama Plan Are “Wishful Thinking.” “Jonathan B. Oberlander, who teaches health policy at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, called it wishful thinking. ‘Do they have the potential to generate significant savings in the long run?’ Dr. Oberlander asked. ‘Yes. Do I believe they will produce substantial savings in the short run that can be used to finance Obama’s plan? No.’” (Kevin Sack, “Obstacles For Obama In Meeting Health Care Goal,” The New York Times, 7/23/08)
M.I.T.’s Jonathan Gruber Said That There Is “Zero Credible Evidence” That The Obama Plan Will Save The Average Family On The Costs Of Insurance Premiums. “Experts also are skeptical of both [Obama and Clinton's] claims that their plans will reduce the cost of insurance for the typical family by $2,000 or more. ‘I know zero credible evidence to support that conclusion,’ says M.I.T’s Jonathan Gruber.” (Factcheck.org Website, http://www.factcheck.org, Accessed 6/9/08)

Posted by: Lets Roll | October 8, 2008, 2:39 am 2:39 am

You want a person NOT BORN IN AMERICA.
TRY JOHN MCCAIN. HE WAS BORN IN PANAMA.
THAT AIN’T AMERICA!
MCCAIN IS NOT AMERICAN…
HE’S PANAMANIAN!!!!

Posted by: AMERICANFOREVER | October 8, 2008, 2:40 am 2:40 am

Factcheck.Org Said Obama’s Claim That His Plan Will Cut Insurance Premium Costs By $2,500 Is “A Bit Of Misleading Math.” “That’s a bit of misleading math. It assumes individual Americans will share in all of the savings for the health care system, which includes insurance companies, the government and health care providers. Obama claims families will save $2,500 under his plan, but they won’t see at least some of those savings directly in the form of lower premiums. And they may not see them indirectly either.” (Factcheck.Org, http://www.factcheck.org, Accessed 6/16/08)
BARACK OBAMA’S PLAN WILL BURDEN BUSINESSES WITH A MANDATE AND IS VAGUE ABOUT WHICH ONES ARE EXEMPT
Barack Obama’s Health Care Plan Requires Employers To Provide Insurance Or Contribute A Percentage Of Their Payroll To The Public Plan:
Barack Obama’s Plan Includes Required Employer Coverage Similar To The Failed Clinton Mandate Of 1993. “Obama would require almost all employers to offer insurance to workers or face a tax penalty, an idea that many businesses abhor and that is also in Edwards’s proposal. This employer mandate drove much of the opposition to the Clinton plan in 1994.” (Anne E. Kornblut and Perry Bacon Jr., “Obama Says Washington Is Ready For Health Plan,” The Washington Post, 5/30/07)
• “In Addition, Mandated Employer Coverage Has Faced Fierce Opposition In The Past And Likely Will Again, [New America Foundation Len] Nichols Said.” (JoNel Aleccia, “Overhauling Health Care: Two Divergent Visions,” MSNBC News, http://www.msnbc.msn.com, 9/22/08)
Barack Obama Is Vague On The Specifics Small Businesses Have To Meet In Order To Be Exempt From His Employer Mandate:
Obama’s Campaign Has Not “Put Out A Specific Number” When Asked To Identify Which Small Businesses Would Qualify For The Small Business Exemption And Tax Credit. “Under Obama’s health plan, businesses over an unspecified size would have to either make a ‘meaningful contribution’ to their employees’ health coverage or else pay an undefined percentage of payroll towards the costs of the national plan. Obama has also promised ‘small businesses’ that he would provide them with a refundable tax credit worth up to 50 percent of what they contribute towards their employees’ health premiums. ‘We haven’t put out a specific number,’ said Jason Furman, Obama’s director of economic policy, when asked by ABC News to identify who would be covered by Obama’s small business exemption and health-care tax credit.” (Gregory Wallace and Teddy Davis, “Obama Fuzzy On ‘Small Business’ Exemption,” ABC’s “Political Radar” Blog, blogs.abcnews.com, 8/5/08)
Obama’s Campaign Has Not Laid Out Details About How Much The Play Or Pay Or Tax Would Be For Those Who Don’t Offer Health Insurance Or Which Small Businesses Are Exempt. “The campaign has not said how large the tax would be for businesses that opt not to offer insurance, or how small a business would have to be to be excluded from the requirement. If the payroll tax is too low, say 6 percent, many businesses will opt to pay it instead of offering insurance, sending their employees into the public program and boosting federal costs, he noted.” (JoNel Aleccia, “Overhauling Health Care: Two Divergent Visions,” MSNBC News, http://www.msnbc.msn.com, 9/22/08)
Obama’s Staff “Declined To Be More Specific” For The Philadelphia Inquirer About His Employer Mandate. “Under [Obama's] plan, employers either would give employees ‘meaningful’ insurance coverage or pay a percentage of payroll to provide coverage for the uninsured. His staff declined to be more specific.” (Stacey Burling, “Clinton, Obama Differ Slightly On Health Plans,” The Philadelphia Inquirer, 4/15/08)
BARACK OBAMA SAID HIS PLAN MAY LEAD TO A SINGLE-PAYER PLAN “OVER TIME”
Barack Obama Suggested His Health Care Plan Could Lead To A Single-Payer System “Over Time”:
Barack Obama Says His Health Care Plan Could Lead To Single-Payer System “Over Time.” Obama: “If I were designing a system from scratch, then I’d probably set up a single-payer system. … But the problem is we’re not starting from scratch. … Making that transition in a rapid way I think would be very difficult. … So my attitude is let’s build up the system we got, let’s make it more efficient, we may be over time — as we make the system more efficient and everybody’s cover — decide that there are other ways for us to provide care more effectively.” (Barack Obama, Remarks At A Campaign Event, Albuquerque, NM, 8/18/08)
Barack Obama Was A Self-Described “Proponent” Of Single-Payer Health Care, But Later Backtracked:
Barack Obama Was A “Proponent Of A Single-Payer Health Care Program” And Said It Could Happen If Democrats Occupied The White House And A Majority In Congress. Obama: “I happen to be a proponent of a single-payer health care program. I see no reason why the United States of America, the wealthiest country in the history of the world cannot provide basic health insurance to everybody. A single-payer health care plan, a universal health care plan. And that’s what I’d like to see. And as all of you know, we may not get there immediately. Because first we have to take back the White House, we have to take back the Senate, we have to take back the House.” (Barack Obama, Remarks At AFL-CIO Forum, Chicago, IL, 6/30/03)
In 2008, Barack Obama Said He Would Only Support A Single-Payer System If “Starting From Scratch.” Obama: “[I] never said that we should try to go ahead and get single payer. What I said was that if I were starting from scratch, if we didn’t have a system in which employers had typically provided health care, I would probably go with a single-payer system.” (Barack Obama, CNN/Congressional Black Caucus Democrat Presidential Candidates Debate, Myrtle Beach, SC, 1/21/08)
KEY DEMOCRATS DOUBT THAT BARACK OBAMA’S PLAN WILL PASS
Senate Democrats Are Already Raising Doubts About The Likelihood That The Obama Plan Will Pass:
Senior Congressional Democrats Are “Maneuvering To Lower Public Expectations” Of Barack Obama’s Health Care Promises. “Congressional Democrats are backing away from healthcare reform promises made by their two presidential candidates, saying that even if their party controls the White House and Congress, sweeping change will be difficult. It is still seven months before Election Day, but already senior Democrats are maneuvering to lower public expectations on the key policy issue.” (Manu Raju, “Dems Hedge On Healthcare,” The Hill, 4/23/08)
Barack Obama’s Promises To Deliver Universal Care On The Campaign Trail “May Not Match The Political Reality On Capitol Hill.” “For some senators, the promises made by Sens. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) and Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) outside of Washington may not match the political reality on Capitol Hill.” (Manu Raju, “Dems Hedge On Healthcare,” The Hill, 4/23/08)

Posted by: Lets Roll | October 8, 2008, 2:40 am 2:40 am

WAKE UP BOGEY!!! YOU ARE HALLUCINATING AGAIN. 8 YEARS OF REPUBLICAN LOOK WHAT HAPPENED. ENOUGH!!!

Posted by: AlRam | October 8, 2008, 2:40 am 2:40 am

Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-WV) On The Obama Health Care Plan: “We all know there is not enough money to do all this stuff. . What they are doing is…laying out their ambitions.” (Manu Raju, “Dems Hedge On Healthcare,” The Hill, 4/23/08)
Sen. Chuck Schumer Questions If The U.S. Is “Ready For A Major National Heath Care Plan.” “Sen. Charles Schumer (N.Y.), a member of Senate Democratic leadership and a key Hillary Clinton ally who also sits on the Finance Committee, said he is ‘not sure we have the big plan on healthcare. … Healthcare I feel strongly about, but I am not sure that we’re ready for a major national healthcare plan,’ Schumer said.” (Manu Raju, “Dems Hedge On Healthcare,” The Hill, 4/23/08)
IN ILLINOIS, OBAMA HAD A “PERFECT VOTING RECORD” IN FAVOR OF STATE MANDATES
In Illinois, Barack Obama Had A “Perfect Voting Record” On Insurance Mandates That Are Now In Place In Illinois And Have Increased The Cost Of Health Care In Illinois:
“Obama Voted For All” Of The 18 Insurance Mandates That Passed During His Time As A State Senator. “Today, the requirement is one of 43 mandates imposed by Illinois on health insurance, according to the Illinois Division of Insurance. … By my count, during Mr. Obama’s tenure in the state Senate, 18 different laws came up for a vote and passed that imposed new mandates on private health insurance. Mr. Obama voted for all of them.” (Scott Gottlieb, Op-Ed, “Obama’s Health Care Record,” The Wall Street Journal, 5/5/08)
According To American Enterprise Institute’s Scott Gottlieb, Barack Obama Had A “Perfect Voting Record” On Enacting State Mandates That Have Increased Insurance Costs. Gottlieb: “The fact is that about 18 in all, bills came up – public acts came up that would impose new mandates on private insurance plans about things they had to cover and [Obama] voted for all of them. He had a perfect voting record. We know as a matter of policy, these state mandates end up increasing cost. Many of them are pushed by special minutes the states. In the case of dental anesthesia, pushed by the dentists, this is far more complicated dental procedures. Nonetheless, these are things that people may be willing to fund out of pocket or partially pay for. By mandating them, insurance companies need to cover the cost, it ends up increasing the cost of health insurance and cost of basic policies which in many cases is all people can afford.” (CNBC’s “Squawk Box,” 5/6/08)
Barack Obama “Clearly” Did Not Stand Up To Special Interest In Illinois By Consistently Voting In Favor Of Insurance Mandates. Gottlieb: “[B]arack Obama was hardly alone for voting for state mandates. In fairness, they have become less popular because a lot of states are realizing they do increase the cost of health insurance. But he’s out on the campaign trail talking about his willingness to stand up to special interests in order to control costs. In the state of Illinois, he clearly didn’t do that. He voted for all of these state mandates. In fact, he voted for a lot of additional insurance regulation, some of which we didn’t count because we didn’t feel it fit the mold of what you call a mandate. If you include the insurance regulation he voted for, voting record was 21 out of 21 public acts that came up.” (CNBC’s “Squawk Box,” 5/6/08
Barack Obama’s Health Care Record
ARLINGTON, VA — With Barack Obama lying about John McCain’s health care plan today, please find below the facts about Barack Obama’s health care record:
BARACK OBAMA RECENTLY ACKNOWLEDGED HIS PLAN WILL COST AT LEAST $150 BILLION A YEAR
Despite What He Claimed Today, Barack Obama Recently Said His Plan Will Cost At Least $150 Billion, Despite Earlier Claims That It Will Cost Much Less:
Barack Obama Said On “60 Minutes” That His Plan Would Cost At Least $150 Billion. CBS’ Steve Kroft: “How much is it going to cost? $150 billion it’s going to cost, right?” Obama: “It is. It is. But we pay for every dime that we propose to spend. I believe in pay as you go. That if you want to propose a new program, you better cut some old ones. If you want to expand a program, then you better figure out where the money’s coming from.” (CBS’ “60 Minutes,” 9/21/08)
Previously, Barack Obama Said His Plan Will Save The Average Person $2,500 Per Year And Will Cost Taxpayers Between $50-$65 Billion Per Year. “Obama said his plan could save the average consumer $2,500 a year and bring health care to all. Campaign aides estimated the cost of the program at $50 billion to $65 billion a year, financed largely by eliminating tax cuts for the wealthy that are scheduled to expire.” (Mike Glover, “The Time Has Come For Universal, Affordable Health Care, Obama Says,” The Associated Press, 5/29/07)
BARACK OBAMA’S CLAIM THAT HIS PLAN SAVES FAMILIES $2,500 IS BASED ON “MISLEADING MATH”
There Is “Zero Credible Evidence” That The Obama Plan Will Lower The Costs Insurance Premiums By $2,500, Which Is Based Off Of “Misleading Math”:
Obama’s Pledge To Lower Health Care Premiums By $2,500 In His First Term “Is A Matter Of Considerable Dispute” Among Experts. “In speech after speech, Senator Barack Obama has pledged that he will lower the country’s health care costs enough to ‘bring down premiums by $2,500 for the typical family.’ Moreover, Mr. Obama, the presumptive Democratic nominee, has promised that his health plan will be in place ‘by the end of my first term as president of the United States.’ Whether Mr. Obama can deliver is a matter of considerable dispute among health analysts and economists.” (Kevin Sack, “Obstacles For Obama In Meeting Health Care Goal,” The New York Times, 7/23/08)
A Health Policy Professor At The University Of North Carolina-Chapel Hill Said The Savings In The Obama Plan Are “Wishful Thinking.” “Jonathan B. Oberlander, who teaches health policy at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, called it wishful thinking. ‘Do they have the potential to generate significant savings in the long run?’ Dr. Oberlander asked. ‘Yes. Do I believe they will produce substantial savings in the short run that can be used to finance Obama’s plan? No.’” (Kevin Sack, “Obstacles For Obama In Meeting Health Care Goal,” The New York Times, 7/23/08)
M.I.T.’s Jonathan Gruber Said That There Is “Zero Credible Evidence” That The Obama Plan Will Save The Average Family On The Costs Of Insurance Premiums. “Experts also are skeptical of both [Obama and Clinton's] claims that their plans will reduce the cost of insurance for the typical family by $2,000 or more. ‘I know zero credible evidence to support that conclusion,’ says M.I.T’s Jonathan Gruber.” (Factcheck.org Website, http://www.factcheck.org, Accessed 6/9/08)
Factcheck.Org Said Obama’s Claim That His Plan Will Cut Insurance Premium Costs By $2,500 Is “A Bit Of Misleading Math.” “That’s a bit of misleading math. It assumes individual Americans will share in all of the savings for the health care system, which includes insurance companies, the government and health care providers. Obama claims families will save $2,500 under his plan, but they won’t see at least some of those savings directly in the form of lower premiums. And they may not see them indirectly either.” (Factcheck.Org, http://www.factcheck.org, Accessed 6/16/08)

Posted by: Lets Roll | October 8, 2008, 2:41 am 2:41 am

BARACK OBAMA’S PLAN WILL BURDEN BUSINESSES WITH A MANDATE AND IS VAGUE ABOUT WHICH ONES ARE EXEMPT
Barack Obama’s Health Care Plan Requires Employers To Provide Insurance Or Contribute A Percentage Of Their Payroll To The Public Plan:
Barack Obama’s Plan Includes Required Employer Coverage Similar To The Failed Clinton Mandate Of 1993. “Obama would require almost all employers to offer insurance to workers or face a tax penalty, an idea that many businesses abhor and that is also in Edwards’s proposal. This employer mandate drove much of the opposition to the Clinton plan in 1994.” (Anne E. Kornblut and Perry Bacon Jr., “Obama Says Washington Is Ready For Health Plan,” The Washington Post, 5/30/07)
• “In Addition, Mandated Employer Coverage Has Faced Fierce Opposition In The Past And Likely Will Again, [New America Foundation Len] Nichols Said.” (JoNel Aleccia, “Overhauling Health Care: Two Divergent Visions,” MSNBC News, http://www.msnbc.msn.com, 9/22/08)
Barack Obama Is Vague On The Specifics Small Businesses Have To Meet In Order To Be Exempt From His Employer Mandate:
Obama’s Campaign Has Not “Put Out A Specific Number” When Asked To Identify Which Small Businesses Would Qualify For The Small Business Exemption And Tax Credit. “Under Obama’s health plan, businesses over an unspecified size would have to either make a ‘meaningful contribution’ to their employees’ health coverage or else pay an undefined percentage of payroll towards the costs of the national plan. Obama has also promised ‘small businesses’ that he would provide them with a refundable tax credit worth up to 50 percent of what they contribute towards their employees’ health premiums. ‘We haven’t put out a specific number,’ said Jason Furman, Obama’s director of economic policy, when asked by ABC News to identify who would be covered by Obama’s small business exemption and health-care tax credit.” (Gregory Wallace and Teddy Davis, “Obama Fuzzy On ‘Small Business’ Exemption,” ABC’s “Political Radar” Blog, blogs.abcnews.com, 8/5/08)
Obama’s Campaign Has Not Laid Out Details About How Much The Play Or Pay Or Tax Would Be For Those Who Don’t Offer Health Insurance Or Which Small Businesses Are Exempt. “The campaign has not said how large the tax would be for businesses that opt not to offer insurance, or how small a business would have to be to be excluded from the requirement. If the payroll tax is too low, say 6 percent, many businesses will opt to pay it instead of offering insurance, sending their employees into the public program and boosting federal costs, he noted.” (JoNel Aleccia, “Overhauling Health Care: Two Divergent Visions,” MSNBC News, http://www.msnbc.msn.com, 9/22/08)
Obama’s Staff “Declined To Be More Specific” For The Philadelphia Inquirer About His Employer Mandate. “Under [Obama's] plan, employers either would give employees ‘meaningful’ insurance coverage or pay a percentage of payroll to provide coverage for the uninsured. His staff declined to be more specific.” (Stacey Burling, “Clinton, Obama Differ Slightly On Health Plans,” The Philadelphia Inquirer, 4/15/08)
BARACK OBAMA SAID HIS PLAN MAY LEAD TO A SINGLE-PAYER PLAN “OVER TIME”
Barack Obama Suggested His Health Care Plan Could Lead To A Single-Payer System “Over Time”:
Barack Obama Says His Health Care Plan Could Lead To Single-Payer System “Over Time.” Obama: “If I were designing a system from scratch, then I’d probably set up a single-payer system. … But the problem is we’re not starting from scratch. … Making that transition in a rapid way I think would be very difficult. … So my attitude is let’s build up the system we got, let’s make it more efficient, we may be over time — as we make the system more efficient and everybody’s cover — decide that there are other ways for us to provide care more effectively.” (Barack Obama, Remarks At A Campaign Event, Albuquerque, NM, 8/18/08)
Barack Obama Was A Self-Described “Proponent” Of Single-Payer Health Care, But Later Backtracked:
Barack Obama Was A “Proponent Of A Single-Payer Health Care Program” And Said It Could Happen If Democrats Occupied The White House And A Majority In Congress. Obama: “I happen to be a proponent of a single-payer health care program. I see no reason why the United States of America, the wealthiest country in the history of the world cannot provide basic health insurance to everybody. A single-payer health care plan, a universal health care plan. And that’s what I’d like to see. And as all of you know, we may not get there immediately. Because first we have to take back the White House, we have to take back the Senate, we have to take back the House.” (Barack Obama, Remarks At AFL-CIO Forum, Chicago, IL, 6/30/03)
In 2008, Barack Obama Said He Would Only Support A Single-Payer System If “Starting From Scratch.” Obama: “[I] never said that we should try to go ahead and get single payer. What I said was that if I were starting from scratch, if we didn’t have a system in which employers had typically provided health care, I would probably go with a single-payer system.” (Barack Obama, CNN/Congressional Black Caucus Democrat Presidential Candidates Debate, Myrtle Beach, SC, 1/21/08)
KEY DEMOCRATS DOUBT THAT BARACK OBAMA’S PLAN WILL PASS
Senate Democrats Are Already Raising Doubts About The Likelihood That The Obama Plan Will Pass:
Senior Congressional Democrats Are “Maneuvering To Lower Public Expectations” Of Barack Obama’s Health Care Promises. “Congressional Democrats are backing away from healthcare reform promises made by their two presidential candidates, saying that even if their party controls the White House and Congress, sweeping change will be difficult. It is still seven months before Election Day, but already senior Democrats are maneuvering to lower public expectations on the key policy issue.” (Manu Raju, “Dems Hedge On Healthcare,” The Hill, 4/23/08)
Barack Obama’s Promises To Deliver Universal Care On The Campaign Trail “May Not Match The Political Reality On Capitol Hill.” “For some senators, the promises made by Sens. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) and Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) outside of Washington may not match the political reality on Capitol Hill.” (Manu Raju, “Dems Hedge On Healthcare,” The Hill, 4/23/08)
Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-WV) On The Obama Health Care Plan: “We all know there is not enough money to do all this stuff. . What they are doing is…laying out their ambitions.” (Manu Raju, “Dems Hedge On Healthcare,” The Hill, 4/23/08)
Sen. Chuck Schumer Questions If The U.S. Is “Ready For A Major National Heath Care Plan.” “Sen. Charles Schumer (N.Y.), a member of Senate Democratic leadership and a key Hillary Clinton ally who also sits on the Finance Committee, said he is ‘not sure we have the big plan on healthcare. … Healthcare I feel strongly about, but I am not sure that we’re ready for a major national healthcare plan,’ Schumer said.” (Manu Raju, “Dems Hedge On Healthcare,” The Hill, 4/23/08)

Posted by: Lets Roll | October 8, 2008, 2:42 am 2:42 am

“Perhaps its just a coincidence that they tend to be older white men with “McCain” stickers on their vehicles.”
Give me a break. I see more white people with Obama stickers than I do black people.

Posted by: Mack | October 8, 2008, 2:42 am 2:42 am

Don’t be ignorant people. “That one” was a simple gesture to who voted for the bill.

Posted by: Randy | October 8, 2008, 2:42 am 2:42 am

it’s easy to spot McCain’s campaign bus- it’s the one heading down the highway with it’s turn signal on…

Posted by: Joe A | October 8, 2008, 2:43 am 2:43 am

You need more?

Posted by: Lets Roll | October 8, 2008, 2:45 am 2:45 am

Go to McCain’s website, GOD Bless.

Posted by: Lets Roll | October 8, 2008, 2:46 am 2:46 am

“THAT ONE”….HOW LOW CAN THIS WAR HERO (?) McNoShame McCain can stoop down. Referring to your fellow senator as “THAT ONE”. YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE A RACIST AND I AM SORRY FOR YOU.

Posted by: AlRam | October 8, 2008, 2:46 am 2:46 am

WAKE UP ALRAM! DEMOCRATS ALSO VOTED FOR THE WAR AND ARE THE SOLE REASON WE’RE IN THIS FINANCIAL CRISIS TODAY. GET YOUR BUTT OFF THE COUCH AND DO YOUR HOMEWORK!!

Posted by: Bogey | October 8, 2008, 2:46 am 2:46 am

“You need more?”
naw, 8 years of a republican president is enough

Posted by: Joe A | October 8, 2008, 2:47 am 2:47 am

1.20.09 – the end of an error

Posted by: Joe A | October 8, 2008, 2:48 am 2:48 am

“That one” is a big deal??? Good grief, what a waste of time. If there was any disrespect, it is probably because not much respect is deserved, point made, now everybody should move on….

Posted by: workingdoc | October 8, 2008, 2:49 am 2:49 am

McCain is nothing more than a mean old man, as well as a simpleton. Obama was brilliant at this debate. He will be a president that we can all be proud of…yes, even the Republicans!

Posted by: Go-Bama! | October 8, 2008, 2:49 am 2:49 am

High taxes is always enough, unless you want socilist government hand out’s you lazy bray!

Posted by: Lets Roll | October 8, 2008, 2:50 am 2:50 am

McCain is a racist…why else would he vote against recognizing Martin Luther King’s Birthday as a national holiday? Can ***anyone*** who is planning on voting for McCain explain why he would be against it? Anyone?

Posted by: John Johannsen | October 8, 2008, 2:50 am 2:50 am

Obama was a definite winner tonight. He was graceful, eloquent, clear, calm and projected all presidential qualities. In contrast to Obama McCain looked like senilic old man whose time is up. I would not have been surprised if McCain refered to Obama as “boy”. The comment “That One” had very loaded racial undertones. McCain needs to retire.

Posted by: jjohn | October 8, 2008, 2:51 am 2:51 am

Hey Bogey…you sound like Bush. So where are we now…in deep Bogey #^%$!!!

Posted by: AlRam | October 8, 2008, 2:51 am 2:51 am

May GOD have mercy on you’re soul’s!

Posted by: Lets Roll | October 8, 2008, 2:52 am 2:52 am

Clearly shows that Obama has gotten inside McCain’s skin .
McCain/Palin : Corrupt, uneductaed, unethical, liars.
McCain has no decency to shakes Obama’s hands!!!

Posted by: Chipkee | October 8, 2008, 2:52 am 2:52 am

WrokingDoc….McNoShame McCain your war hero is a racist plain and simple. Hope you can understand that.

Posted by: AlRam | October 8, 2008, 2:52 am 2:52 am

well, at least he went down swinging…lmao! see ya geezer!

Posted by: Joe A | October 8, 2008, 2:53 am 2:53 am

Obama and brilliant in the same sentence? What debate did YOU listen to? American is NOT that stupid. If Obama were to try to get a REAL job, he’d have to start in the mail room. That’s where all the people with NO EXPERIENCE begin their careers.

Posted by: Bogey | October 8, 2008, 2:53 am 2:53 am

Finally, an election that is a real “no brainer”. You’d have to be an idiot to vote for McCain.

Posted by: Scott | October 8, 2008, 2:54 am 2:54 am

That’s not good news for my candidate….His Alzheimer kicked in before the election……I didn’t know he is that old.

Posted by: jenny | October 8, 2008, 2:54 am 2:54 am

Bogey…I’m pretty sure “THAT ONE” intelligent than you are. And that is enough for me for him to be our next president.

Posted by: AlRam | October 8, 2008, 2:55 am 2:55 am

I am an Obama supporter, but the bias of the media this year is pathetic. They should stop even pretending to report a balanced account. Let’s appoint Obama President and get on with it. Really guys?

Posted by: Joel Wyatt | October 8, 2008, 2:55 am 2:55 am

mack i heard an ACORN office was raided by the FBI tonight in l.v nevada any word?

Posted by: octoberlight | October 8, 2008, 2:55 am 2:55 am

McCain came across as a petulant fool tonight.

Posted by: worldsam | October 8, 2008, 2:56 am 2:56 am

HEY REPUBLICANS!!
McCAIN HAD TO WIN THIS ONE AND…..Ooops HE LOST BIG!!!
NBC = 60% Obama 40% McNasty!
CBS = 39% Obama 27% McSenile!
Greenberg Quinlan = 42% Obama 24% McNuts!
Survey USA = 54% Obama 24% McDummy!
CNN = 54% Obama 30% McKeating-5!
And for you Republicans, even your precious “FOX Noise” called OBAMA the WINNER!!
McCain = Old Nasty fool – loser!
Palin = DOLT with lipstick – irrelevant!
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, , ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Davis | October 8, 2008, 2:56 am 2:56 am

Finally, an election that is a real “no brainer”. You’d have to be an idiot to vote for McCain….Hi Scott I know an idiot who will vote for McCain…the name is BOGEY!!!

Posted by: AlRam | October 8, 2008, 2:56 am 2:56 am

AlRam … Thanks for the compliment. When Bush goes down as one of the top 10 Presidents in 30 years, I’m guessin’ you’re going to say you liked him all along. Have you been attacked by a terrorist lately? If not, send Bush a thank-you letter.

Posted by: Bogey | October 8, 2008, 2:57 am 2:57 am

The problem with McCain’s healthcare plan is that it moves most folks from employee based plans into the open market. If you have ever tried to obtain insurance independently you would know that the cost is much higher even under best case scenerio (you are young and healthy). If you have a pre-existing condition you can forget it. Even if you are healthy enough to get the insurance once you do get ill they either jack your premiums up or drop you. Under emploee based insurance, because it operates as a pool, there is negotiating power – something you can forget about as a single subsciber. Face it – McCain’s plan is just another way of giving more power to big business. What is interesting is that McCain has spent almost his entire life, as a military dependent, in the military and as a member of the Senate, under the relative security of goverment health insurance. Small wonder he is clueless about what the real world is like.

Posted by: Mark from atlanta | October 8, 2008, 2:58 am 2:58 am

Jeff wrote,
“McCain then referred to himself as this one didn’t vote for it.
McCain said that senator that one didn’t vote for it this one referring to himself did vote for it.
McCain has the worst luck. He is being taken out of context.”
I’m sorry, Jeff. If you watch the footage, McCain’s quote is, “You know who voted for it? You might never know. That one. You know who voted against it? Me.”
He said “me,” Jeff. Not “this one.”
He is not being taken out of context there.

Posted by: FactCheck | October 8, 2008, 2:58 am 2:58 am

Bogey…a terrorist just attacked….it’s you!!!

Posted by: AlRam | October 8, 2008, 2:58 am 2:58 am

Well, a Democrat calling a Republican an idiot. That’s classy.

Posted by: Bogey | October 8, 2008, 2:58 am 2:58 am

AlRam–thank you for your note. Your comments to “WrokingDoc” suggests how little thinking it takes to start blabbering about “racist” imaginations. Move on, Mr. or Mrs. AlRam, you must have something more productive to do with your time than to create huge “racist” mountains out of absolutely nothing. These candidates said their piece and for the 10% of Blacks who would not vote for Obama, it would make little sense to offend them by any “racist” remarks. Your imagination is working overtime….

Posted by: workingdoc | October 8, 2008, 2:59 am 2:59 am

Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t Obama refer to himself as the “one”?
I thought it was nice of Senator McCain to humor Obama in his delusion that he is the messiah. You lefties have got to chill out. There are still 4 weeks to go until election day so you need to pace yourself in your hate & loathing.

Posted by: paulejb | October 8, 2008, 2:59 am 2:59 am

Comments from
who cares?? This is absolutly ridiculous, lets talk about the issues at hand, not how they refer to eachother == laura
I watched it, I got it, it meant absolutely nothing….Obama camp trying to make something of nothing. Move on. ==
hanna
Is that the way he will address other head of states he disagrees with??
And… I AM NOT part of the Obama camp. And… this is a ‘issue at hand’, it shows McCain’s character and judgement.
We CAN NOT allow someone like Mc Cain be president of our country.
United States of America is a great country, United States of America deserves better.

Posted by: SMS | October 8, 2008, 3:00 am 3:00 am

Working Doc I understand because you are also a racist…

Posted by: AlRam | October 8, 2008, 3:00 am 3:00 am

Mack,
So by what authority do you challenge the truth of my own experience?
Were you there when I was cut off, so that you may dispute that the 3 or 4 times this has happened in the past few days that the drivers of the other vehicles (one large pick-up, one small Hyundai, and one SUV that I remember) were not, in fact, older white men with McCain stickers?
Or are you simply trying to argue that because you, personally, have witnessed white people (I will presume for the sake of consistency, older white men) with Obama stickers that it could not be possible for me to have been cut off and gestured at by older, white men with McCain stickers?
If so, there is a logical problem. It is what is known as a “non-sequitur” which means, “it does not follow.”
It does not follow that because you have seen (or claim to have seen) older, white men with Obama stickers that I could not have experienced aggression from older, white men with McCain stickers.
And are you also going to tell me that I could not possibly have been shouted at in the grocery store by an older, white man who said something clearly racial in nature in reference to my Obama pin?
Did I just dream all that?
Whew, that’s a relief, then I don’t have to worry about it getting even nastier in the next few weeks.

Posted by: Dee Dee Lynn | October 8, 2008, 3:00 am 3:00 am

Paulejb,
Obama has never referred to himself as “the one.”
It was a name the McCain camp made up to mock him and then they used it in an ad.
So its a pure McCain invention.

Posted by: Dee Dee Lynn | October 8, 2008, 3:01 am 3:01 am

Dee Dee Lyn…you are right on target!!!

Posted by: AlRam | October 8, 2008, 3:03 am 3:03 am

Obama has never referred to himself as “the one” that I can find.
He once said, “we are the ones we’ve been waiting for”– it’s possible that the McCain camp picked up on that and rebranded the statement.
It’s also possible the McCain camp wants people to sit around wondering if Obama is the Antichrist.

Posted by: FactCheck | October 8, 2008, 3:05 am 3:05 am

- http://www.cafepress.com/obama_that_one -
John McCain is just upset because Obama is “the one” who is going to win! “That One” is going to be our next President, so show a little respect, John!

Posted by: THE ONE | October 8, 2008, 3:05 am 3:05 am

As a mother I have to wonder, would my black children ever have a chance in America? I mean here is a man who did all the right things, maybe his mother thought him, like I am teaching mine.God,Family,Education.This man is so descent,so well educated,yet to the racist amongst us, he isn’t good enough.Maybe if McCain had gone to Havard he would have had more class and not referr to Obama as “that one.” It seems to me, that despite how much, or what, an African American,achieves in this country he or she will still, never, ever, be equal, or get the same respect.We are suppose to be dunce and stupid; since Obama is not either, the “haters” and “racist” demean him by calling him a “terroist” and “that one.” We need to stop pointing the finger and clean our own, very dirty linens.That’s why we need a change, Barack Obama is on “EVERYONE’S SIDE.”

Posted by: Ann | October 8, 2008, 3:05 am 3:05 am

I can’t imagine such a remark would provoke such controversy.
Obama refers to women as “Sweetie”.
Why aren’t all the females up in arms about that?
Does white america have to vote Obama just to prove they are not racist?

Posted by: John | October 8, 2008, 3:06 am 3:06 am

mack i heard an ACORN office was raided by the FBI tonight in l.v nevada any word?
Posted by: octoberlight | Oct 8, 2008 2:55:52 AM
========================================
Yes there are results! They found the deeds to all of McCain’s 13 houses!!!

Posted by: Davis | October 8, 2008, 3:09 am 3:09 am

WHO SAID THAT I’M A RACIST? I’M NOT. IT’S ONE OF MY MANY SENIOR MOMENTS TO CALL OBAMA AS “THAT ONE”. I SAID THAT BECAUSE I AM McNoShame.

Posted by: McNoShame | October 8, 2008, 3:09 am 3:09 am

I can’t imagine such a remark would provoke such controversy.
Obama refers to women as “Sweetie”.
Why aren’t all the females up in arms about that?
Does white america have to vote Obama just to prove they are not racist?
Hey John..white america will vote for Obama because he much better than McNoShame McCain.

Posted by: McNoShame | October 8, 2008, 3:11 am 3:11 am

Name-calling on either side reduces the quality of discourse.
Just a thought.

Posted by: FactCheck | October 8, 2008, 3:12 am 3:12 am

You know what John,
there’s a BIG difference between being called “sweetie” and being called what I was called by an older white man in the grocery store because I was wearing an Obama pin (I will give you a clue–it has two words and the second one was “lover” and the other word is one my mother would rise out of her grave and slap me if I said).
I live in the South and people call me “sweetie” and “honey” all the time, and I have never taken offense.
However, what I was called the other day was clearly RACIST. So the reason we Obama supporters believe that there are racists out there is because there are.
And the proof of it is not that they are not going to vote for Obama. The proof is the things they say and do (including some of the things on the boards).
So get over your false indignation.

Posted by: Dee Dee Lynn | October 8, 2008, 3:12 am 3:12 am

Ummm… this isn’t a first time John McCain used a racist remark!!!
He used the term “Gooks” (“N” word for Asians) numerous times before during his 2000 campaign!

Posted by: No Country for Old Racist Men! | October 8, 2008, 3:13 am 3:13 am

Damn we got a lot of idiots in this country. And unfortunately most have been hypnotized by this celebrity (Obama). Who goes to church where a man preaches “God Damn America”. Where his wife was “finally proud to be an american” after her 1/2 black husband got the democratic nomination. The same man who has associated with people who hate our country and set bombs off on american soil. The Muslim world looks at him as a Muslim because he was born Muslim. Is this who you want to trust?

Posted by: Greg Garrett | October 8, 2008, 3:13 am 3:13 am

You think “that one” is bad? Wait ’til you read this October issue of Rolling Stone cover story about McCain….it’s REALLY SCARY.
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain

Posted by: sickofGOP | October 8, 2008, 3:14 am 3:14 am

You think “that one” is bad? Wait ’til you read this October issue of Rolling Stone cover story about McCain….it’s REALLY SCARY.
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain

Posted by: sickofGOP | October 8, 2008, 3:14 am 3:14 am

Actual Headline: Winfrey tells Iowa crowd: Barack Obama is ‘the one’ – CNN.com *** If Oprah can say it, that means it’s okay for us to say it, right? Or if I’m white, does that make it racist? Help me out here.

Posted by: Bogey | October 8, 2008, 3:15 am 3:15 am

You think “that one” is bad? Wait ’til you read this October issue of Rolling Stone cover story about McCain….it’s REALLY SCARY.
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain

Posted by: sickofGOP | October 8, 2008, 3:15 am 3:15 am

Greg, be careful with the word “associated” when you attack. As I am sure you are going to be reminded very soon, McCain has “associated” with dangerous and objectionable people.

Posted by: FactCheck | October 8, 2008, 3:16 am 3:16 am

Palin is about to get BUSTED on Friday for “ABUSE OF POWER CHARGES” by the State of Alaska!!
McCain looked like an OLD doddering fool at the debate last night…
The WHOLE AMERICAN ECONOMY IS TAKING FOLKS, AND THE REPUBLICANS AN THEIR DEREGULATION BS DID IT!!!
THROW THE BUMS OUT!!!!
It is the perfect storm

Posted by: Davis | October 8, 2008, 3:16 am 3:16 am

Bogey is the one and that is different. Can’t you understnd English?

Posted by: McNoShame | October 8, 2008, 3:17 am 3:17 am

not t come across as petty .. (there are many points more important) but I couldnt help noticing that Sen McCain sribbling away on his note pad , maybe he didnt want to risk forgetting his rehearsed answers , but !!!!! if, as he claims , a war injury prevents him from using a keyboard surely his ability to scribble so intensely would be affected.???
I just cant get past McCains lack of basic manors , ie not making eye contact with Obama , the “that one” incident …. I was taught as most of us to be respectful , polite etc…. this guy is just simply so so rude … !! even if I wanted to listen and concider his ideas I simply cant get past his arrogance…..

Posted by: lucy | October 8, 2008, 3:19 am 3:19 am

Lets see, Obama thinks its just fine to stab a baby in the head, and vacum its brain out AS its being born. He also supports letting babys die when the worthless abortionist is to stupid to kill it and it comes out alive. McCain opposses both of these nasty things. All of you Obama voters need to have your heads examined.

Posted by: wtf | October 8, 2008, 3:19 am 3:19 am

Greg Garrett,
I have not been hypnotized by anyone. I do not know Jeremiah Wright, but the Reverand Martin Marty,who is one of the most esteemed religious scholars in the country, has vouched for him and said those few sermons that went viral on the internet were not typical of Wright’s views.
I have been following Barack Obama’s career since he was a state Senator (well before it was in anyone’s interest to lie about him) because I read his first book. I have a very long view of him (several years now), and I KNOW for a fact that most of the garbage McCain is spouting (or Sarah for him) is just that–garbage.
I knew some day Obama would run for the Presidency and I made a promise to myself years ago (well before almost anyone outside of Illinois knew who he was) that I would support him when he did.
He is a thoughtful, very intelligent, reflective man who understands the world much better than most people in the US do and understands the plight of ordinary Americans much better than McCain ever will.
Now if you want to talk about people with truly problematic associations, we could say a good deal about Sarah Palin, and we could look very hard at what is taught in her church on a regular basis.
And then there’s McCain. He has glossed over his own radical connections, but they are being brought back into the light…

Posted by: Dee Dee Lynn | October 8, 2008, 3:20 am 3:20 am

Oh, McNoShame. I thought the word “one” is what you had a problem with. Boy, do I feel silly. (giggle, giggle)

Posted by: Bogey | October 8, 2008, 3:20 am 3:20 am

This is for Hoopman, Hater, and especially for RL, and also for all of you using this web site to spue out your racists vomit. It is very obvious that you are ignorant and extremely stupid based soley on what and how you manage to string together simple words and phrases. You are disgusting and should be banned from this web site. I hope that from now on,
no one else will respond to anything you say. You are not worth it.

Posted by: goldyoldy | October 8, 2008, 3:21 am 3:21 am

This is for Hoopman, Hater, and especially for RL, and also for all of you using this web site to spue out your racists vomit. It is very obvious that you are ignorant and extremely stupid based soley on what and how you manage to string together simple words and phrases. You are disgusting and should be banned from this web site. I hope that from now on,
no one else will respond to anything you say. You are not worth it.

Posted by: goldyoldy | October 8, 2008, 3:21 am 3:21 am

Palin/McCain-Bush/Cheney!
The WHOLE AMERICAN ECONOMY IS TANKING FOLKS, AND THE REPUBLICANS AND THEIR DEREGULATION BS DID IT!!!
THROW THE BUMS OUT!!!

Posted by: Davis | October 8, 2008, 3:21 am 3:21 am

Bottom line: Obama won the debate. McCain appeared desperate and condescending. He insulted the audience members with things like “I’m sure you didn’t know about Fannie or Freddie until this crisis…”!!! What makes McCain think that we are naive??? We all knew what those agencies were way before this financial collapse. How rude. How degrading. McCain disgusts me.

Posted by: independent 4 Obama | October 8, 2008, 3:21 am 3:21 am

lucy, in fairness to McCain, it takes different muscles and tendons to type than it takes to write. For example, it is much more difficult (some would say impossible) to get carpal tunnel from writing longhand.
I do not believe his ability to takes notes demonstrates that he is being deceptive about having difficulty typing.

Posted by: FactCheck | October 8, 2008, 3:22 am 3:22 am

Make-Believe Maverick
A closer look at the life and career of John McCain reveals a disturbing record of recklessness and dishonesty
At Fort McNair, an army base located along the Potomac River in the nation’s capital, a chance reunion takes place one day between two former POWs. It’s the spring of 1974, and Navy commander John Sidney McCain III has returned home from the experience in Hanoi that, according to legend, transformed him from a callow and reckless youth into a serious man of patriotism and purpose. Walking along the grounds at Fort McNair, McCain runs into John Dramesi, an Air Force lieutenant colonel who was also imprisoned and tortured in Vietnam.
McCain is studying at the National War College, a prestigious graduate program he had to pull strings with the Secretary of the Navy to get into. Dramesi is enrolled, on his own merit, at the Industrial College of the Armed Forces in the building next door.
There’s a distance between the two men that belies their shared experience in North Vietnam — call it an honor gap. Like many American POWs, McCain broke down under torture and offered a “confession” to his North Vietnamese captors. Dramesi, in contrast, attempted two daring escapes. For the second he was brutalized for a month with daily torture sessions that nearly killed him. His partner in the escape, Lt. Col. Ed Atterberry, didn’t survive the mistreatment. But Dramesi never said a disloyal word, and for his heroism was awarded two Air Force Crosses, one of the service’s highest distinctions. McCain would later hail him as “one of the toughest guys I’ve ever met.”
On the grounds between the two brick colleges, the chitchat between the scion of four-star admirals and the son of a prizefighter turns to their academic travels; both colleges sponsor a trip abroad for young officers to network with military and political leaders in a distant corner of the globe.
“I’m going to the Middle East,” Dramesi says. “Turkey, Kuwait, Lebanon, Iran.”
“Why are you going to the Middle East?” McCain asks, dismissively.
“It’s a place we’re probably going to have some problems,” Dramesi says.
“Why? Where are you going to, John?”
“Oh, I’m going to Rio.”
“What the hell are you going to Rio for?”
McCain, a married father of three, shrugs.
“I got a better chance of getting laid.”
Dramesi, who went on to serve as chief war planner for U.S. Air Forces in Europe and commander of a wing of the Strategic Air Command, was not surprised. “McCain says his life changed while he was in Vietnam, and he is now a different man,” Dramesi says today. “But he’s still the undisciplined, spoiled brat that he was when he went in.”
McCAIN FIRST
This is the story of the real John McCain, the one who has been hiding in plain sight. It is the story of a man who has consistently put his own advancement above all else, a man willing to say and do anything to achieve his ultimate ambition: to become commander in chief, ascending to the one position that would finally enable him to outrank his four-star father and grandfather.
In its broad strokes, McCain’s life story is oddly similar to that of the current occupant of the White House. John Sidney McCain III and George Walker Bush both represent the third generation of American dynasties. Both were born into positions of privilege against which they rebelled into mediocrity. Both developed an uncanny social intelligence that allowed them to skate by with a minimum of mental exertion. Both struggled with booze and loutish behavior. At each step, with the aid of their fathers’ powerful friends, both failed upward. And both shed their skins as Episcopalian members of the Washington elite to build political careers as self-styled, ranch-inhabiting Westerners who pray to Jesus in their wives’ evangelical churches.
In one vital respect, however, the comparison is deeply unfair to the current president: George W. Bush was a much better pilot.

Posted by: McNoShame | October 8, 2008, 3:22 am 3:22 am

I am voting Democrat …
… because English has no place being the official language in America.
… because it’s better to turn corn into fuel than it is to eat it despite its inefficiency.
… because I’d rather pay $4 for a gallon of gas than allow drilling for oil off the coasts of America.
I’m voting Democrat …
… because I think the government will do a better job of spending my money than I can.
… because when we pull out of Afghanistan and Iraq, I know the Islamic terrorists will stop trying to kill us because they’ll think we’re a good and decent country.
… because I believe people who can’t tell us if it will rain in two or three days, can now tell us the polar ice caps will
disappear in ten years if I don’t start riding a bicycle, build a windmill or inflate my tires to proper levels.
I’m voting Democrat …
… because it’s alright to kill millions of babies as long as we keep violent, convicted murderers on death row alive.
… because I believe businesses in America should not be allowed to make profits. Businesses should just break even and give the rest to the government so politicians and bureaucrats can redistribute the money the way they think it should be redistributed.
… because I believe guns, and not the people misusing them, are the cause of crimes and killings.
I’m voting Democrat …
… because when someone with a weapon threatens me or my family, I know the government can respond faster through a call to 911 than I can with a gun in my hand.
… because oil companies’ 5% profit on a gallon of gas are obscene, but government taxes of 18% on the same gallon of gas are just fine.
… because I believe three or four elitist liberals should rewrite the Constitution every few months to suit some fringe element that could never get their agenda past voters.
I’m voting Democrat …
… because illegal aliens are not criminals, are not sucking up resources through government aid, hospital services, education, or social services, but are just people trying to make a better life by coming to America illegally. We can’t blame them for that, can we?
… because our health care is too expensive. Just because it’s the best in the world doesn’t mean we should have to pay for it.
… because now I can marry whoever I want, so I’ve decided to marry my horse.
I’m voting Democrat …
… because I enjoy the process of trying to decipher Obama’s messages … it stimulates my brain.
… because McCain has too much experience. I want CHANGE … someone with NO experience.
… because Bush will probably go down as one of the top 10 presidents in 30 years, and I enjoy looking stupid.
Now, give me ONE good reason to vote Republican?!?!?

Posted by: Bogey | October 8, 2008, 3:22 am 3:22 am

I was unndecided. After tonight, I am voting for John McCain. If we are so shallow that “that one” can cause such a reaction, I mean, come on people we have got to be better thinkers than that.

Posted by: jim | October 8, 2008, 3:24 am 3:24 am

Oh, McNoShame. I thought the word “one” is what you had a problem with. Boy, do I feel silly. (giggle, giggle)
Posted by: Bogey | Oct 8, 2008 3:20:38 AM
Now you can get BOGEY!!!! Poor boy.

Posted by: McNoShame | October 8, 2008, 3:25 am 3:25 am

The choice is quite easy:
McCain: Tax cuts for the wealthy and big corporations and none for those making less than $100,000 a year. (and yet he says he is for ‘main street’)
Obama: Tax cuts for the majority of working Americans, modest increases for those earning $200,000 or more a year (less than they were under Clintons tax plan)
http://www.taxpolicycenter.com/
McCain: Shift health coverage to deregulated private sector with fixed tax credit to all income levels, more Americans would lose coverage (and again, favors the wealthy)
Obama: Provide an additional insurance carrier that would allow more people to get insurance, and with tax cuts to employers providing coverage saving them an annual $140 billion, which would also increase revenue for health providers by increasing insured patients.
http://www.epi.org/content.cfm/pm126
McCain: Wants congress to investigate Enron loophole (even though congress has already tried twice to pass bills that would close it, and both were vetoed by Bush)
Obama: Wants to close enron loophole right away, causing an immediate drop in gas prices for all Americans
McCain: Wants to drill for more oil, and build nuclear plants (even though we would not see any output from them for 7-10 years)
Obama: Faster shift towards alternative energy sources and better utilization of existing resources.
McCain: a D- student with a lackluster navy background
Obama: a Harvard Law school graduate, magna cum laude, and a constitutional law expert
McCain: Military shoot first ask questions later foreign policy stance
Obama: Diplomacy and dialog with military as option of last resort
McCain: No foriegn policy experience except for armed services
Obama: Member foreign relations, Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, and subcommitties on European, East Asian and Pacific, African affairs as well as International development and security, specalized in International Relations in college.
McCain: Vast majority of introduced bills in Senate are directly related to the military.
Obama: Introduced bills for equal rights, environment, housing, health care, alternative and renewable fuels, safer drugs, constitutional rights, improved fuel economy and other issues relating to a better America and helping Americans.
Looking at the issues and what they would mean to our country, you would have to be as dumb as Bush to not vote for Obama.

Posted by: jj1221 | October 8, 2008, 3:25 am 3:25 am

was unndecided. After tonight, I am voting for John McCain. If we are so shallow that “that one” can cause such a reaction, I mean, come on people we have got to be better thinkers than that.
Posted by: jim | Oct 8, 2008 3:24:26 AM
Jim is another racist.

Posted by: McNoShame | October 8, 2008, 3:26 am 3:26 am

Bogey, thank you for your cut-and-paste.

Posted by: FactCheck | October 8, 2008, 3:27 am 3:27 am

secretary of state in las vegas nevada raid ACORN OFFICES tonight . ACORN regional director implicated. front page online abc story. duplicate and false names on voter registrations. must be racism eh!

Posted by: octoberlight | October 8, 2008, 3:27 am 3:27 am

jj1221, thank your for *your* cut-and-paste.

Posted by: FactCheck | October 8, 2008, 3:28 am 3:28 am

Bogey,
Hey thanks for posting your “cut and paste” nonsense from your favorite right wing-nut website…
Listen you little pea brain, if you can’t write your own material and opinions then what are you doing here??
That goes for all of you Republican Redneck “cut and paste idiots.”
So that brings me to the subject of tonight’s debate. Sorry McNasty supporters, but he lost BIG TIME!!!
So trying to cover for your Grandpappy McCains A** isn’t going to work anymore!
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!!!!!

Posted by: Davis | October 8, 2008, 3:28 am 3:28 am

a disgusting way to address a fellow senator. sen mccain is a disgrace.

Posted by: Rich | October 8, 2008, 3:28 am 3:28 am

dear Factcheck….
Point taken, as i said maybe petty so thank you….
still cant explain away his arrogance..

Posted by: lucy | October 8, 2008, 3:28 am 3:28 am

Palin was part of a political party that wants Alaska to seperate from the rest of the country. And she claims Obama is unAmerican??? What planet is this wingbat woman from? And what part of McCain voting over 90% with Bush does the American public not understand???

Posted by: independent 4 Obama | October 8, 2008, 3:29 am 3:29 am

independent 4 Obama, actually, it was Sarah Palin’s husband who belonged to that organization.

Posted by: FactCheck | October 8, 2008, 3:30 am 3:30 am

You’re welcome, you’re welcome, and you’re welcome!

Posted by: Bogey | October 8, 2008, 3:32 am 3:32 am

dear Factcheck….
Point taken, as i said maybe petty so thank you….
still cant explain away his arrogance..
Posted by: lucy | Oct 8, 2008 3:28:47 AM
=========================================
lucy, nothing needs to be explained… That old grumpy grandpa fool you support BOMBED on stage tonight in the debate.
OBAMA – YOUR NEXT PRESIDENT “SWEETIE!”

Posted by: Davis | October 8, 2008, 3:32 am 3:32 am

I feel very welcome.

Posted by: FactCheck | October 8, 2008, 3:33 am 3:33 am

Hey Bogey,
If I were to vote Republican I guess it would be because I like to use the tax dollars of working Americans to subsidize CEO trips to spas.
Or I guess it would be because I don’t believe in science or democracy and I want the US to become a Christian theocracy.
Or I guess it would be because I think women not be allowed to use contraception and that they should be kept in the house until they have children, and then kept in the house to tend those children.
Or I guess it would be because I thought the way to make America liked and respected in the world was to start wars for no good reason, and then spend billions of dollars and thousands of lives losing them.
Or I guess it would be because I thought it was fine for anyone (criminals, the insane) to own as many of whatever kind of gun they wanted to and to use them whenever and wherever and on whomever they wanted.
Or I guess it would be because I believed in feudalism (that’s monarchy or rule by an aristocracy) where inherited wealth was the biggest predictor of your outcome in life and where the wealthy were not taxed at all and were subsidized by the lower (working) classes through heavy taxation.
But, thank goodness, I won’t vote Republican.

Posted by: Dee Dee Lynn | October 8, 2008, 3:33 am 3:33 am

You’re welcome, you’re welcome, and you’re welcome!
Posted by: Bogey | Oct 8, 2008 3:32:38 AM
==========================================
Well you little Republican Troll, we see that you can write like, well at least on Sarah’s level…
So what are you going to cut and paste next dumbass?

Posted by: Davis | October 8, 2008, 3:35 am 3:35 am

McStupid is a dumb ass UGLY IDIOT that is NO WAR HERO and a bigot. Oh, by the way, he is butt ugly. That is enough to not get him elected. However, if we talk on the issues then let us look at the policies:
1. Nationalizing bad mortgages to the tune of 300 more billion. How does he pay for it?
2. Failed Iraq policy. We are still spending 10 billion a month and not using the 79 billion surplus for oil profits to fund the war.
3. Deregulation. In case you missed that, DEREGULATION!!!!!!
4. Drilling when we only have 3% of the oil reserves. We need alternative to stop our dependence.
5. A health program with no real oversight of the industry. A tax on the program that off sets the 5,000 tax credit.
6. A dumb ass at the academy that he had D grade average and was at the lowest rung of the class.
7. Whoring around while a young cadet. I’m sure the conservative right loves this. Who said that ever stopped a repug. The worst hypocrites on moral values!!!!
8. The bitter attitude he has toward Obama. He understands that he can’t stand up to him so he and his dumb ass wife demonstrate bigoted actions against Senator Obama.
9. So on and so on. He is UNBALANCED.

Posted by: truthbetold | October 8, 2008, 3:36 am 3:36 am

No cut-n-paste there FactCheck.. care to discuss any of the issues on that list..

Posted by: jj1221 | October 8, 2008, 3:36 am 3:36 am

My family and I have always refered to others as “That one” when using that person as an example. No race involved, we are all the same. This is BS to turn an innocent colloquialism into a something ugly. I hate the way possible racial undertones have turned language into a mine field we have to traipse ever so delicately.

Posted by: Linda | October 8, 2008, 3:38 am 3:38 am

PALIN/McCAIN/BUSH/CHENEY -Looks the same to me!!
The WHOLE AMERICAN ECONOMY IS TANKING FOLKS, AND THE REPUBLICANS LIKE JOHN McCAIN AND THEIR DEREGULATION BS DID IT!!!
THROW THE BUMS OUT!!!

Posted by: Davis | October 8, 2008, 3:40 am 3:40 am

Fact check: Palin is trying to burn Obama based on associations. Considering she attended many of the meetings of this organization her husband belonged to, we could call that a very close assocation now can’t we???
Now, regarding the comment made by McCain tonight of “that one”, whether racist or not, was extremely rude and unprofessional, any way you look at it. He didn’t even shake hands with Obama after the debate.
Furthermore, McCain bailed out of the meeting room shortly after the debate was over, while Obama stayed and engaged with the audiance. McCain was rude to Obama, condescending to audiance members, and didn’t even stick around to listen to their concerns or issues.

Posted by: independent 4 Obama | October 8, 2008, 3:40 am 3:40 am

why won’t obama release his transcripts?
why won’t obama comply with the FEC request for him to release his online donation records? mccain agreed,
why won’t obama comply with Judge Bergs order to submit his original birth certificate?

Posted by: octoberlight | October 8, 2008, 3:40 am 3:40 am

So Linda,
It’s fine with you if Obama calls McCain “that one” in the next debate?
Or are you one of those that thinks even “John” is disrespectful when it comes from Senator Obama?

Posted by: Dee Dee Lynn | October 8, 2008, 3:40 am 3:40 am

(( 7. Whoring around while a young cadet. I’m sure the conservative right loves this. Who said that ever stopped a repug. The worst hypocrites on moral values!!!! ))
Don’t forget to add that he divorced his ‘trophy’ wife after she had a car accident and was confined to a wheel chair. Married the next one 3 months after the divorce, but actually got the Marriage Certificate before the divorce.. what does that tell you?

Posted by: jj1221 | October 8, 2008, 3:42 am 3:42 am

jj1221, I have seen your post on other comment pages verbatim, such as this one
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/10/mccain-obama-mu.html
It is the second comment posted.
And while I may or may not agree with the post, on this point, no, I do not want to discuss it.

Posted by: FactCheck | October 8, 2008, 3:42 am 3:42 am

independent 4 Obama, yes, I think it’s totally appropriate to call it a very close association. In the interests of fairness, however, I thought it important to point out that it was not Governor Palin who belonged to the Alaskan Independence Party, but her husband.
But yes– I think it is absolutely fair to say that Palin and her husband have a close association.

Posted by: FactCheck | October 8, 2008, 3:46 am 3:46 am

PALIN/McCAIN-ERRATIC!
Oh and did I say McNasty LOST the 2nd debate??
NEWS FLASH!!!
PALIN IS INCITING RIOT CONDITIONS AT HER RALLYS – CROWD SCREAMS AND CHATS “KILL HIM” AS SHE TALKS ABOUT BARACK OBAMA BEING A TERRORIST!!!
OH MY GOD………….

Posted by: Davis | October 8, 2008, 3:47 am 3:47 am

Oh for heaven’s sake, leave the birth certificate issue alone.
Here is the legal news version of the whole thing.
Please note that Philip Berg also filed a lawsuit claiming the Bush Administration orchestrated 9/11.
So are all you Right Wingers going to accept that as gospel now, since you believe his claims about Obama?
__________
Copyright 2008 The Morning Call, Inc.
All Rights Reserved
Morning Call (Allentown, Pennsylvania)
August 28, 2008 Thursday
FIFTH Edition
SECTION: National; Pg. A4
LENGTH: 545 words
HEADLINE: Federal lawsuit alleges Obama isn’t citizen of U.S.;
Gadfly Philip Berg bases it on widely debunked rumors.
BYLINE: Kevin Amerman Of The Morning Call
There is absolutely NOTHING that the McCain camp can do now to win the election. Even Faux news says that Obama is ahead by nine points.
The more slander and trash thrown around by McCain and Palin, the more independents like me will back Obama.
American might have been fooled before, but we know that BIG issues need to be discussed, not these slick, sorry attempts to defame character.
It reeks of desparation and ignorance. McCain can’t defend his positions, so he is now depending on distractions and trash talking. But he has “assocations” too. Wait until those come out. I don’t think McCain wants to go there….

Posted by: independent 4 Obama | October 8, 2008, 3:49 am 3:49 am

Obama and Obama supporters are in for a rude awakening. Obama’s programs cannot receive proper financing as he proposes. The tax base is crumbling due to the financial crisis. The proposed taxes Obama is basing his plans are on tax collections of the past. Even the bean counters are having a difficult time arriving at a dependable figure for future tax collections.
Obama’s national healthcare program will have people overburdening local clinics expecting immediate medical attention; however funding will be slow and incomplete. Obama is proposing that people can find work in his proposed highway and bridge program, a program that shows Obama’s immaturity in finance.
Maybe Obama is planning the return of the WPA and the CCC. In any event, all Obama supporters can pick up their shovels at any Democratic local headquarters. If you do not have a shovel, you cannot receive free medical care. Oh, Obama did not tell that part of his free medical plan. Surprise!
No to Obama’s policies that doom America.

Posted by: Truth | October 8, 2008, 3:51 am 3:51 am

Listen as Sen. Obama said we are at a defining moment and our nation is at war. First the economy and the war in Iraq. Let me say that tonight debate was ok but Sen. Obama won it but Sen McCain referred to Barack Obama as “that one” to me it was very offensive, as a black in America I would of never refer to someone as that one, even if I didn’t know the person’s name. Now America know who they should vote for and I am certain that We don’t need anyone that has a temper to lead our country because if so we will never be in peace because Sen McCain will be insulting everyone so America let’s elect Sen. Obama as our President.

Posted by: Lyonel | October 8, 2008, 3:52 am 3:52 am

Ewww … lots of bad, bad name calling. I’m honored to have gotten your goat. But I, a Republican, am above name-calling. Call me a Christian, someone who doesn’t want babies killed, who is proud of my country, and would never be stupid enough to vote for a President with NO EXPERIENCE!!! (Remember, the Democrats voted for the war too, but then didn’t like it when it got violent. Awww, poor little patriotic libs just didn’t know the definition of war until it was too late.)

Posted by: Bogey | October 8, 2008, 3:52 am 3:52 am

(( jj1221, I have seen your post on other comment pages verbatim, such as this one ))
Ahh, but the one above I added links to the sources so they could be verified!
Gotta keep ‘em honest and on the issues you know :)

Posted by: jj1221 | October 8, 2008, 3:55 am 3:55 am

This was not a debate, Tim Russert we needed you in the election season to ask hard questions. both did well ill give Mccain A-, Obama B-(this was because of his rambling on and on.)But he gave very direct answers to questions he could answer, like wise with Mccain but foregin policy is what the president decides on that the american public has little say over (edge Mccain) the economy will turn around and then what (both Tied)and relating to people in the crowd (edge Mccain). the press love Obama so much that they didnt even pay attention to utterly sloppy, down unprofessional Tom Brokaw, which I liked up til now. You sitting in Tim Russert chair, sir. Either retire from jouralism, or sign up be a spokesman for Obama. I’m a democrat no matter who wins the press need to reevaulate how the do business they arent Objective and ethical,
R.I.P
Tim Russert we miss you big guy!!!!!!

Posted by: Quintell | October 8, 2008, 3:56 am 3:56 am

WOW Bogey,
You actually strung a couple of halfway intelligent sentences together there…
Much better than Sarah Palin could do. Oh, did I tell you she is getting indited this Friday?
I here it is a Felony Count or two…
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Davis | October 8, 2008, 3:56 am 3:56 am

did ‘that one’ apply to harvard/columbia as a kenyan citizen is that why he won’t release his transcripts and college application records? that one has allot of secrets.

Posted by: octoberlight | October 8, 2008, 3:57 am 3:57 am

Just think, a Felon who’s more intelligent than YOU! Surprise, surprise!

Posted by: Bogey | October 8, 2008, 3:57 am 3:57 am

Bogey: Sorry but McCain is going to lose the election. Better get over it. You are forgetting that McCain voted with Bush over 90% of the time. We all know how that worked out….

Posted by: independent 4 Obama | October 8, 2008, 3:58 am 3:58 am

“Truth”
We are experiencing the worse economic crisis since the Great Depression (also caused by a Republican).
The Repugs can say what they like, this was caused by deregulation (nearly all economists and anyone with a brain can see that) and deregulation is the cornerstsone of Republican economic policy.
During the past 8 years, real wages have declined. The top 1% has gotten wealthier and the rest of the country, poorer.
We have huge deficits. Our credibility in the world is at an all time low.
Our military is exhausted and we have spent nearly 1 trillion and thousands of lives on a stupid, pointless war that has made us look weak in the eyes of our enemies.
As for you Bogey, I understand war. I come from a military family. The credo in our family was that you used war as a last resort, that you went in only when you could win, only when there were clear objectives and a clear strategy for victory, and only if you devoted more than sufficient resources UP FRONT to assure victory (Powell’s “overwhelming force”).
Don’t question my patriotism merely because I know the difference between wars and stupid wars.

Posted by: Dee Dee Lynn | October 8, 2008, 3:58 am 3:58 am

Bogey wrote,
“How immature and petty you all are”
“you’re as dumb as a box of rocks”
“Obama and brilliant in the same sentence? What debate did YOU listen to?”
“I’m voting Democrat because it’s alright to kill millions of babies as long as we keep violent, convicted murderers on death row alive.”
And then Bogey wrote,
“Ewww … lots of bad, bad name calling. I’m honored to have gotten your goat. But I, a Republican, am above name-calling.”
Bogey, you do your party proud.

Posted by: FactCheck | October 8, 2008, 3:58 am 3:58 am

PALIN/McCAIN/BUSH/CHENEY -Looks the same to me!!
The WHOLE AMERICAN ECONOMY IS TANKING FOLKS, AND THE REPUBLICANS LIKE JOHN McCAIN AND THEIR DEREGULATION BS DID IT!!!
THEY SCREWED US, MY 401K IS GONE!!!!
THROW THE BUMS OUT!!!

Posted by: Davis | October 8, 2008, 3:59 am 3:59 am

Republicans were crazy to nominate McCain for their ticket. This guy is much worse than President Bush in articulating his thoughts and seems to have a bad temper and seemingly not ready to accept the fact that he is going to lost to someone who is black, and has limited experience.
On top of it, McCain picking Sarah Palin who is fit to be just a PTA mom.
I predict Obama wins handily perhaps winning 340 out of the 540 electoral votes.
The best shot for republicans in this election would have been if they had picked Romney/Huckabee ticket.
Anyways they deserve to lose this election.

Posted by: sudhakar | October 8, 2008, 3:59 am 3:59 am

jj1221, touche!

Posted by: FactCheck | October 8, 2008, 4:00 am 4:00 am

R.I.P
Tim Russert
When he died earlier this year Jouralism died with him.

Posted by: Quintell | October 8, 2008, 4:01 am 4:01 am

No, the choice isn’t that easy if you passed economics:
“McCain: Tax cuts for the wealthy and big corporations and none for those making less than $100,000 a year. (and yet he says he is for ‘main street’)
Obama: Tax cuts for the majority of working Americans, modest increases for those earning $200,000 or more a year (less than they were under Clintons tax plan)”
Well, I am retired so those tax cuts for the working aren’t going to help me.
First Obama lied. Eventhough my income is less than $250K per year, he will raise my taxes. If I sell a stock and realize a capital gain, he has promissed to raise the capital gains tax.
Second, who do you think will pay these higher taxes on corporations. They only have two places to get it. They can raise the price of their products or reduce the dividends paid to stock holders. Either way, econ 101 suggests a reduction in employment.
Third, when he says that he will raise the taxes on the wealthy, he is talking about raising the capital gains tax. If you tax investment, you reduce investments. Less investment means lower employment and lower productivity. Productivity is related to the amount of capital equipment per worker. Higher productivity means higher wages.
So, would you rather have higher employment or lower direct taxes. A tax cut isn’t much help if you loose your job.
If you understand economics, you will realize that McCain is is correct and Obama is just using leftist rhetoric.
McCain: Wants to drill for more oil, and build nuclear plants (even though we would not see any output from them for 7-10 years)
Obama: Faster shift towards alternative energy sources and better utilization of existing resources.
I have to ask how these alternative energy sources are going to solve our energy problem. Both wind and photovoltaic require conventional (fuel burning?) power plants as backup. The Winter peak power demand occurs after the sun sets. There is a finite chance that the wind will stop blowing everywhere we have turbines at that same time — not likely, but what would we do if there were no power.
But, I have to say that I do not understand how changing how we produce electricity is going to solve the problem of imported petroleum. Electric cars are not yet practical and even if they were at more than twice the price of gasoline cars, I don’t see them taking over the market in the next 20 years. We need liquid hydrocarbon fuels. Clearly, drilling is not going to produce a lot more petroleum although it will probably help a little. The only way I see to produce the needed fuel for transportation without continuing to import petroleum is what President Carter suggested: synthetic fuel. I have heard nothing from either candidate about this.
IAC, I will vote for McCain based on his better understanding of business economics and his experience in the Senate.

Posted by: JRT | October 8, 2008, 4:01 am 4:01 am

Quintell, while I too miss Tim Russert, hyperbole done for the sake of insulting every other journalist on the planet is uncalled for.

Posted by: FactCheck | October 8, 2008, 4:03 am 4:03 am

the palin rally chanters were obama plants.

Posted by: octoberlight | October 8, 2008, 4:03 am 4:03 am

independent 4 Obama … I do not agree, you NO EXPERIENCE lover you. As I said before, this country isn’t naive enough to elect a President who would be working in the Mail Room if he were to get a real job. (He’s never had one, get it?) And I’m proud of the way McCain voted. If you’d do your homework, you’d find that the Democrats are the reason for our financial crisis. But obviously you’d rather just sit on the couch and listen to your beloved mainstream TV. Good luck with that. Maybe someday, you’ll see the light.

Posted by: Bogey | October 8, 2008, 4:04 am 4:04 am

We already know his true colors. Did he not call his wife a C**t? In public.

Posted by: Graham Moore | October 8, 2008, 4:04 am 4:04 am

My point for you “Truth” is that we can’t afford four more years of Republicans.
I said from the beginning of the Bush administration (and particularly once the Republicans got control of Congress as well as the White House) that they would run the country into the ground and in the end be ridden out on a rail.
I have not been fooled about anything much in politics my entire life, and that was case in point.
The country will be much better off with Obama than we were with Bush.
Maybe you like things the way they are. Maybe you inherited a few hundred illion or maybe you are a fat-cat CEO, or maybe you are one of those crazy people that believe Obama is the anti-christ, I don’t know.
However, if you like things the way they are in the US now, there are plenty of “third-world” countries you can move to and be perfectly happy (huge gap between rich and poor, no government regulation of businesses, no laws governing air or food or water quality, virtually no public schools, huge taxes on the poor and virtually none on the wealthy, nothing in the way of women’s rights, the ability to own weapons at will and even abounding religious fundamentalism).
However, the rest of us don’t really want that, so we’d like to clean up the mess the Republicans have made and get the US back on track, thank you very much.

Posted by: Dee Dee Lynn | October 8, 2008, 4:05 am 4:05 am

I see now that Mcain is and angry old man, and what eats him up is the fact that he is being beaten by a black man that is sophisticated and smart. He said “That One”, i found it very offensive and the nerve of some of the cable news analysts to try to cover or smooth this statement off as a generation issue. This is a racist statement. Mcain is just angry because he feels he is entitled from his family background. Tell Mcain this is not about pedigree, but temperment and character. I say one thing, this long 2 years election process has given me alot of lessens, I for one looked at Mcain as a decent Republican before this , i adored the Clintons too, but now i have a very bad taste in my mouth about them. Please all decent thinking people vote Obama, he is a good man , he never insult or talk down to people.

Posted by: hughy | October 8, 2008, 4:07 am 4:07 am

(( Obama and Obama supporters are in for a rude awakening. Obama’s programs cannot receive proper financing as he proposes ))
Neither can McCains.. although, under McCains tax plan, he will raise the deficit even greater than Obama simply because he is cutting taxes across the board. Estimated raise in deficit; $4.2 trillion over 10 years under McCain, $2.9 trillion over 10 years under Obama. It will be easier for Obama to close the gap than McCain.
(( Obama’s national healthcare program will have people overburdening local clinics expecting immediate medical attention; ))
Can you tell me next weeks lotto numbers also?
(( Obama is proposing that people can find work in his proposed highway and bridge program, a program that shows Obama’s immaturity in finance. ))
Not at all.. jobs will be created in many sectors. Increased insured patients will inject revenue into the health care providers causing an increase of jobs in that market, and the tax breaks to employers providing insurance coverage will inject capital to expand or create new jobs across all sectors.
Also, keep in mind that both Obamas and McCains health plans cost roughly the same, but Obamas will dramatically increase the number of insured which combined with his tax cuts for the low and middle class and employer provided health care will provide an almost immediate economic stimulus.
Deregulation will take time before lower costs are realized under normal circumstances unless acted upon by external forces (like monopolization which in a deregulated market is a real posibility).

Posted by: jj1221 | October 8, 2008, 4:07 am 4:07 am

JRT,
“First Obama lied. Eventhough my income is less than $250K per year, he will raise my taxes. If I sell a stock and realize a capital gain, he has promissed to raise the capital gains tax.”
Obama’s proposed increase in the capital gains tax *also* focuses on those making more than $250,000 a year. Check it out here http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/08/obama-clarifies.html
“Second, who do you think will pay these higher taxes on corporations. They only have two places to get it. They can raise the price of their products or reduce the dividends paid to stock holders. Either way, econ 101 suggests a reduction in employment.”
The fact that a corporation will do whatever is necessary to increase its profit can hardly be blamed on Obama.
“Third, when he says that he will raise the taxes on the wealthy, he is talking about raising the capital gains tax. If you tax investment, you reduce investments. Less investment means lower employment and lower productivity.”
This would hold more water if you could demonstrate that *more* investment results in increased employment. Current US figures would seem to suggest that is simply not the case.

Posted by: FactCheck | October 8, 2008, 4:08 am 4:08 am

oh davis everybody on these blogs knows you are a nut case who lives off your mentally disabled ssi claim. stop it with the ‘i lost my my 401 k claim.
hahahhahahahahahahahahahaha………..

Posted by: joel j | October 8, 2008, 4:08 am 4:08 am

As a male blk, I dont think that the usage of “that one” has any racial overtones. Married couples with lot of kids usually have difficulty remembering the name of all their kids and regularly refer to them as “that one” There are to many other problems in our society for us to get hung up on something that silly.

Posted by: johnnylee | October 8, 2008, 4:09 am 4:09 am

The cause the Great Depression was Democrat programs and poor Herbert Hoover caught the blame. It is much like the programs of Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton.
I hear Obama always saying the last eight years; however, he forgets the rest of the financial history.
No to Obama’s policies that doom America.

Posted by: Truth | October 8, 2008, 4:09 am 4:09 am

octoberlight wrote,
“the palin rally chanters were obama plants.”
Is that what the Secret Service investigation found? If so, could you please link your source? I would be interested to read it.

Posted by: FactCheck | October 8, 2008, 4:10 am 4:10 am

To anyone who doubts why we’re in this financial crisis, go to You Tube (dot com) and type in: Shocking Video Unearthed Democrats *** This is actual footage of your brilliant Democrats in action, causing the downfall of our economy. Can’t deny it now, libs! (Almost 2,000,000 people have viewed this video! I just love the Internet!!)

Posted by: Bogey | October 8, 2008, 4:10 am 4:10 am

While watching the debate I admit I didn’t really think too much of the “that one” statement. However, at the end of the debate when McCain didn’t shake Obama’s hand and on reflection of how he didn’t even look at Obama in the first debate, I now see it as being very rude and disrespectful. McCain is free to not like Obama, but show respect. How could we trust McCain as president going overseas and meeting diplomats he doesn’t like if he can’t even respect a fellow American…

Posted by: John from NC | October 8, 2008, 4:11 am 4:11 am

McCAIN = ERRATIC OLD FOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOSES 2nd DEBATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PALIN = LOST FIRST DEBATE!! LIAR AND CRIMINAL IN ALASKA TROOPERGATE INVESTIGATION – Results being released Friday in a PUBLIC DISCLOSURE….
OH, NO…
WHAT CAN WE DO PALIN/McCAIN SUPPORTERS, ANY IDEAS???

Posted by: Davis | October 8, 2008, 4:12 am 4:12 am

Factcheck
Like I said, if you want to live in a country where they tax the working classes and not the wealthy, I can name many of them (they are primarily in Latin Africa, some in Asia and some in Latin America).
These countries offer a fairly reliable predictor of what this country will look like if we continue on with Republican policies (or if you want a historical model, how about France, before the Revolution).
Personally, that’s not really the kind of place I want to live.

Posted by: Dee Dee Lynn | October 8, 2008, 4:12 am 4:12 am

McCain racist? Innocent
McCain oblivious to ways certain gestures come across to different races and walks of life? Guilty

Posted by: Mirror | October 8, 2008, 4:14 am 4:14 am

I’m voting for That One. Because $5,000 is only half of a yearly family insurance policy.

Posted by: cg | October 8, 2008, 4:18 am 4:18 am

Really Truth, your are misnamed…
Now I have read many theories about the cause of the Depression, but not one of them blames “Democrat policies.”
Where did you get that? Let me guess, someone at the Hoover institute maybe?
And only a Republican could lay this crisis at the feet of Bill Clinton. He did, I will admit (and I am not a particular fan of his) go along with some of the deregulation that began this, but it is really the Bush administration and the Republicans who went along who really gutted regulation, and allowed banks to go wild (anyone remember those bankruptcy laws they rewrote)?
But you have to love Republicans. When they thought things were going well a few years ago, they said that Bush had created growth (somehow it did not follow on from what Clinton had done) and now, several years later, we have a huge recession, but that is somehow because of Clinton policies.
So anything good that happens, well that’s because of Republicans, but anything bad, well that’s because of Democrats, regardless of who is in power.
That’s the Republican view anyway (unconstrained by the facts of course).

Posted by: Dee Dee Lynn | October 8, 2008, 4:20 am 4:20 am

RL, Get a life , you loser! Damn, even if we voted for Osama bin Laden, he could not do as much damage to our nation as morons like you and your republican party!!

Posted by: Jack | October 8, 2008, 4:20 am 4:20 am

factcheck i also heard that the ‘rally chanters’ at the mccain and palin events were obama plants playing the old tired race card again. some rally attendees (mccain supporters) spotted them before the event holding up protest signs before the event outside the rally sites. anyway gotta go.

Posted by: joel j | October 8, 2008, 4:22 am 4:22 am

PALIN/McCAIN=ERRATIC!
Oh and did I say McNasty LOST the 2nd debate??
NEWS FLASH!!!
PALIN IS INCITING RIOT CONDITIONS AT HER RALLYS – CROWD SCREAMS AND CHATS “KILL HIM” AS SHE TALKS ABOUT BARACK OBAMA BEING A TERRORIST!!!
OH MY GOD………….

Posted by: Davis | October 8, 2008, 4:23 am 4:23 am

Imagine if McCain got the job!! Do you really want your president to be in front of the President of China or even Spain, referring to him as “that one”? (They are other countries, for all you Republicans.) It’s not a race thing. It’s a respect thing. And McCain doesn’t have it in his character. He’s a petty little man who wishes he could take it all back and retire as a respected senator.

Posted by: Hamish | October 8, 2008, 4:25 am 4:25 am

Dee Dee Lynn, I’m not sure what I posted that makes you think I want to live in that country.
My comments have primarily been focused on correcting factual errors in some of these posts. Bogey has been wrong, JRT has been wrong, jj1221 has been wrong.
I’m not passing value judgments, because arguing over the internet is a colossal waste of time. I’m just trying to help people not mis-state themselves by saying that Sarah Palin was a member of the AIP or that Obama’s plan for the capital gains tax affects people making less than $250,000 a year. Both of those statements are simply incorrect. Sarah was not in the AIP. Obama’s tax plan provides relief for the vast majority of Americans making less than $250,000.
I’m not concerning myself with who has been right– your posted article on Obama’s birth certificate, for instance. I had not seen that article before, and I am glad you posted it: next time someone uses that argument to me, I can point them to the truth of the matter.
I believe Democrats and Republicans can debate passionately and constructively, but not if they get their facts wrong.

Posted by: FactCheck | October 8, 2008, 4:26 am 4:26 am

Ashame McSame is resorting to the old say anything campaign. Doesn’t surprise me that he called Obama….That One….since he called his wife a cu*t…just a nasty old man who gets nastier when he doesn’t get his way….polls not looking good for him.

Posted by: Realist | October 8, 2008, 4:27 am 4:27 am

joel j wrote,
“factcheck i also heard that the ‘rally chanters’ at the mccain and palin events were obama plants playing the old tired race card again. some rally attendees (mccain supporters) spotted them before the event holding up protest signs before the event outside the rally sites.”
It’s great that you also “heard” this. My question was *where* this incredible information comes from. Please cite a source, or do not bother claiming it as fact.

Posted by: FactCheck | October 8, 2008, 4:29 am 4:29 am

Shame on McCain.

Posted by: LarryP | October 8, 2008, 4:30 am 4:30 am

Factcheck
the obama people have druged up a bunch of thugs to drag themselves across the finish line in this one! I Dont see Obama as more credible

Posted by: staniam | October 8, 2008, 4:33 am 4:33 am

factcheck the obama birth certificate article you cite is only one which i feel is rather biased. best to go directly to the judge berg rulings regarding the case. widely available online. other recent updates connecting the case to the fact that obama will not release his harvard/columbia transcripts suggesting he may have applied with kenyan citizenship?

Posted by: octoberlight | October 8, 2008, 4:34 am 4:34 am

Davis
youre an example of the ob amathugs

Posted by: staniam | October 8, 2008, 4:34 am 4:34 am

staniam, does your belief in that mean that McCain should do the same?

Posted by: FactCheck | October 8, 2008, 4:34 am 4:34 am

As I suspected, that one is becoming an issue while “The One” couldnt even remember the name of the dead soldier that was on his bracelet.
So…someone remind me again, which is the bigger issue? Forgetting the name of a soldier killed in combat or someone calling someone else that one?

Posted by: mailman | October 8, 2008, 4:35 am 4:35 am

(( Well, I am retired so those tax cuts for the working aren’t going to help me.))
If you are a senior, you will receive a $50,000 exemption. Most seniors living on a fixed income will pay no taxes.
(( First Obama lied. Eventhough my income is less than $250K per year, he will raise my taxes. If I sell a stock and realize a capital gain, he has promissed to raise the capital gains tax. ))
To less than it was under Clinton (25%). As it is, the capital gains tax is due to expire anyway, putting it back to pre Bush levels. Plus, all current exemptions will be left in place, so, particularly on home sales, unless you happen to realize a huge profit, it won’t matter.
(( Second, who do you think will pay these higher taxes on corporations. ))
Corporate tax rate will not change under Obama.. McCain wants to lower them. However, as Obama pointed out, most companies do not pay federal taxes anyway due to existing loopholes. For example, Cisco and Microsoft pay zip in federal taxes:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2000/10/09/MN3707.DTL
(( Third, when he says that he will raise the taxes on the wealthy, he is talking about raising the capital gains tax. ))
Capital gains addressed above. And no, he means individual income tax on those earning $200K (individual) or $250K (family). He has all information on the campaign web site if you would like to investigate it.. also, here is an analysis of the two tax plans, and there are estimated tax tables so you can see what your tax rate would be under each:
http://www.taxpolicycenter.com/
(( If you understand economics, you will realize that McCain is is correct and Obama is just using leftist rhetoric. ))
Hoover coined the term “Trickle down”, and it was one of the main reasons for the depression. Regan was responsible for it being called Reganomics, and he single handedly raised the deficit by more than all presidents before him combined (from under $1 trillion to over $2.6 trillion). Bush took a balanced budget and surplus, and due to his tax cuts managed to raise the deficit by $133 billion his first year. It didn’t work, so he cut taxes in 2003 and again in 2004. Both set records for the highest jump in the deficit in history until recently. Yes, trickle down looks good on paper, but history has shown that it is indeed a huge failure. In contrast, the ‘bottom up’ approach Obama proposes will inject money into the economy immediately, stimulating the economy, which is something we need.
(( I have to ask how these alternative energy sources are going to solve our energy problem. ))
We should have began the switch to alternative renewable sources back in 1972. Oil is a limited resource, and we only have a small portion of it. I was disappointed when Bush released his energy policies and focused on breaks for oil and very little incentives for alternative sources. Natural gas (like what picken wants to do) is abundant and cheap, solar, wind, hydro will not suffice for all, but in locations where they will work should be implemented to reduce our energy consumption on existing resources. Tax incentives for alternative fuel vehicles will encourage more people to buy them and increased sales will provide opportunities for new businesses as suppliers and maintenance. Closing the enron loophole will immediately reduce prices at the pump, and return natural gas prices back to somewhere around pre-2000 prices (the remained flat for over 15 years until the enron loophole was enacted, and then jumped 320% – read the presidents energy policy). Clean coal is another alternative and abundant, and Obama does support nuclear in the mix.

Posted by: jj1221 | October 8, 2008, 4:35 am 4:35 am

Octoberlight
and not that I agree with the guy who wrote the antiobama book but he was deported from Kenya just for asking questions… things need to be answered about obamas personal info and associations before the election… period!

Posted by: staniam | October 8, 2008, 4:36 am 4:36 am

Factcheck
Mccain is honorable and a little more humble than Obama so he wasnt going to bring up ayers/rezko and ACORN which has been picked up by the main stream media in the form of an investigation of ACORN in Nevada…for Obama to sit back and act like he doesnt have to do another thing is disingenous and hes not Bill Clinton so he cant pull it off

Posted by: staniam | October 8, 2008, 4:39 am 4:39 am

octoberlight, to paraphrase Edward R. Murrow: since you made no reference to any citation of fact that I asked for, I must conclude that you found no citation.
I will wait to see what the Secret Service investigation turns up as concerns the identities of the Palin rally chanters.
On the birth certificate issue, I will investigate for myself. But I must admit, having done a cursory investigation of Berg since his name was raised, I am not terribly confident in him.

Posted by: FactCheck | October 8, 2008, 4:41 am 4:41 am

Mailman
these Obamathugs think they have it all planned out through innauguration day but Mccain came off as more genuine to me and yes Obama has good coaches to feed information but if you cant remember stuff like a name on a bracelet when it is on your wrist at least pretend like you can

Posted by: staniam | October 8, 2008, 4:42 am 4:42 am

jj1221
my parents are like you retired professionals that still are havign to work… my dad reacherd the maximum number of years he could go in his field and we had to put a new roof on recently… they are voting against their interests because they are votign Obama but they say that with mccain they will have more!

Posted by: staniam | October 8, 2008, 4:44 am 4:44 am

mailman and staniam, as our current President has not attended any funeral for any of our troops killed during this conflict, I am not sure you should be making this particular argument.

Posted by: FactCheck | October 8, 2008, 4:45 am 4:45 am

Factcheck
OMG you are sounding like the original Obamathug that made him into a credible candidate…Keith Obermann… he was funny when the war was serious and the Bush peopel kept making mistakes but he is funny and relevant no more and to have this election decided by journalists is a travesty

Posted by: staniam | October 8, 2008, 4:47 am 4:47 am

FactCheck wrote: “jj1221 has been wrong”
Factually? Please tell me where so I can prevent it in the future!

Posted by: jj1221 | October 8, 2008, 4:47 am 4:47 am

fact check i have friends that attended the mccain albuq rally and told me they were obama plants as they had been seen earlier outside with anti mccain signs.
it is late time for me to hit the sack

Posted by: joel j | October 8, 2008, 4:47 am 4:47 am

Factcheck
sorry but the war is no longer an issue… you make yourself appear to be arguing both sides but we can identify obamasnot when we smell it!

Posted by: staniam | October 8, 2008, 4:48 am 4:48 am

Joel
yea I know they do that,…I have been anti obama throughout and was a clinton supporter and had the chance to go to asheville the other day but I didnt because thugs protesting candiadates are cheap and small

Posted by: staniam | October 8, 2008, 4:50 am 4:50 am

staniam, this election will not be decided by journalists. It will be decided by the American people, or, if you are feeling cynical, by the Electoral College.
However, we as citizens largely depend on journalism to keep us informed on things. That goes for both sides. I sincerely doubt that you have not gotten any of your information from journalists, or at least from people who claim to be journalists.

Posted by: FactCheck | October 8, 2008, 4:51 am 4:51 am

JJ1221
you are right on! as the obamabots liketo say… I hope that the majority of seniors vote for what is right and against obama who has been condescending to them

Posted by: staniam | October 8, 2008, 4:51 am 4:51 am

fact check get over yourself. you sound a kgb bi polar weirdo. please stop with the fear mongering take your meds and go to bed. goodnight

Posted by: joel j | October 8, 2008, 4:52 am 4:52 am

PALIN/McCAIN=ERRATIC!
Oh and did I say McNasty LOST the 2nd debate??
NEWS FLASH!!!
PALIN IS INCITING RIOT CONDITIONS AT HER RALLYS – CROWD SCREAMS AND CHATS “KILL HIM” AS SHE TALKS ABOUT BARACK OBAMA BEING A TERRORIST!!!
OH MY GOD………….
Posted by: Davis | Oct 8, 2008 4:23:16 AM

Posted by: Davis | October 8, 2008, 4:54 am 4:54 am

For Immediate Release
October 7, 2008 Contact:
ICYMI: CNN Reports That Obama’s Relationship With Ayers Is “Much Deeper … Than Obama Said”
“But the relationship between Obama and Ayers went much deeper, ran much longer, and was much more political than Obama said.” — CNN’s Drew Griffin
CNN Report
CNN’s “Anderson Cooper 360″
October 6, 2008
CNN’s Drew Griffin: “Bill Ayers and his wife, Bernardine Dohrn, in the 1960s and ’70s, were radical, members of the Weather Underground, an anti-Vietnam war group that bombed federal buildings including the U.S. Capitol and the Pentagon.
“On the run for years, the case against them was thrown out due to illegal wiretaps and prosecutor misconduct. Ayers has never repented and has said as late as 2001, he wished he had done more to stop the war. Barack Obama confirmed during a primary debate that he knew Ayers and when pressed, said they served on a charitable foundation board together. And Obama condemned Ayers support of violence. But the relationship between Obama and Ayers went much deeper, ran much longer, and was much more political than Obama said.”
Obama Senior Adviser Anita Dunn: “What they are arguing is that somehow the fact that these two people who served both educational reformers in Chicago, both of whom did have their paths cross professionally as well as neighbors occasionally. But somehow this association is a problem for Barack Obama because of Bill Ayers past and things that happened in the 1960s when Barack Obama was 7 years old.
“And that’s just wrong and, frankly, it’s quite unfair.”
Griffin: “One place their paths repeatedly crossed, according to a CNN review of board minutes and other records, was Chicago’s Annenberg Challenge project where a $50 million grant from the Annenberg Foundation matched locally raised funds to improve schools.
“According to participants and project records, Bill Ayers fought to bring the Annenberg grant to Chicago, Barack Obama was recruited as its chair. For seven years, Bill Ayers and Obama among many others, worked on funding for education projects, including some experiments supported by Ayers.
“Stanley Kurtz, a conservative researcher for the Ethics and Public Policy Center has also been reviewing the recently released records of Chicago’s Annenberg’s challenge.”
National Review Online’s Stanley Kurtz: “Instead of giving money directly to schools, they gave money to what they called external partners, and these external partners were often pretty radical community organizer groups.”
Griffin: “And the board gave hundreds of thousands of dollars to Bill Ayers’ small schools project promoting alternative education like ‘The Peace School,’ where the curriculum centered around a United Nations theme, and another school where the focus was, African- American studies.
“And this was directly funded by Annenberg?”
Kurtz: “Oh, yes.”
Griffin: “Under Obama’s chairmanship?”
Kurtz: “Oh yes and the specific job of the board of directors was to give out the money.”
Griffin: “While continuing work on the Annenberg Challenge, Barack Obama and Bill Ayers also served together on a second charitable foundation, the Woods Fund. Among its recipients, Jeremiah Wright’s Trinity United Church where Obama attended and a Children and Family Justice Center, where Ayers’ wife worked. Ayers has strong defenders in Chicago, among them Richard Daly, the mayor, who called Ayers a valued member of the Chicago community. The city gave Ayers its Citizen of the Year award in 1997 for his work on the Annenberg project.
“For Obama, the chairmanship of the $100 million Annenberg board, helped vault him from Southside Chicago lawyer to political player. And that, too, has another connection to Bill Ayers.
“In 1995, months after the little known Barack Obama became Annenberg project chair, State Senator Alice Palmer introduced the young Obama as her political heir apparent.
“Where was that introduction made? At the home of the ’60s radicals, Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn. The Obama campaign again says it is just a coincidence.”
Dunn: “A Democratic state senator organizes a meeting of her supporters at the house of another one of her supporters. What is the problem here, Drew? It is the worst kind of inference and the worst kind of politics to say that somehow that says something about Barack Obama.”
Griffin: “Anderson, this meeting at Bill Ayers home has been classified in many different ways. What I can tell you from the two people who were actually there, is number one, former Senator Alice Palmer says she, in no way organized this meeting and she was invited and attended it briefly. And Doctor Quentin Young, a retired doctor, told us this indeed was Barack Obama’s political coming out party and it was hosted by Bill Ayers.”
Cooper: “So Drew, I mean bottom line, if Obama and Ayers worked together with others to — I guess improve schools, what exactly is the McCain-Palin camp saying is wrong with this relationship or this working relationship? Or however you want to characterize it?”
Griffin: “Well Anderson, I haven’t contacted the campaign on this issue. What they’re saying on the stump is the same thing that Hillary Clinton brought up during the primary campaign is the issue of trust.
“By raising this issue of Bill Ayers, and whether or not Barack Obama was hanging around him, palling around with him, or just working with him, Bill Ayers in the ’60s had a very, very different view of the United States that many Americans did. A lot of Americans were against the Vietnam War but not a lot of Americans formed a group and started bombing things because of it.
“Now, they’re trying to say that that raises judgment issues on Barack Obama. Which has been the tag other campaigns and now McCain’s have been trying to peg on him ever since he started running for president.”
Cooper: “But Barack Obama has publicly stated he does not agree with this guy?”
Griffin: “Correct. Well, he has said that he does — I forget his exact words but he’s certainly deplores the violence in the past.”
Cooper: “Right.”
Griffin: “I haven’t been able to ask him directly about the relationship he has or had with Bill Ayers.”
Watch The CNN Report

Posted by: yodaxl7 | October 8, 2008, 4:54 am 4:54 am

Factcheck
Ive relied more on print and cspan and sometimes cnn and Fox but MSNBC is a 24 infomercial for Obama… and if you thugs watched impartial tv like cspan you wouldve found out tonight tha the majority of the callers were less sure about Obama and undecided you cannot run this election into the ground by running otu the clock… I assure you that your coalition will pale in comparison to former hillary people allied with anyone but obama… and at the very least Obama will be president but be forced to take palin as his vp 269-269 mark my words!

Posted by: staniam | October 8, 2008, 4:55 am 4:55 am

Russert is my hero. jt1221: I’m afraid that to people of McCain’s age, ‘that one’ was euphemism/code for ‘n—–’ when ‘n—-’ wasn’t appropriate, say while having abolitionists over for tea, or school desegregationists, or when the house ‘n—–’ were around.

Posted by: MD | October 8, 2008, 4:55 am 4:55 am

jj1221, actually, I must apologize to you. I confused your post with independent 4 Obama’s, where the poster mistakenly said Palin was in the AIP.
Again, my apologies.
joel j, again, I suppose I must wait for the official Secret Service report. I do not know your friends.
staniam, you’re not making an argument other than saying “the war is no longer an issue.” I’m curious what you mean by that.

Posted by: FactCheck | October 8, 2008, 4:57 am 4:57 am

Everyone needs to look to Woodrow Wilson and not to blame the great depression on Hebert Hoover.
Wilson’s (Democrat) idealistic internationalism, calling for the United States to enter the world arena to fight for democracy, progressiveness, and liberalism, has been a highly controversial position in American foreign policy, serving as a model for “idealists” to emulate or “realists” to reject for the following century.
Wilson’s plan allowed the large banks to have important influence, but Wilson went beyond the Aldrich plan and created a central board made up of persons appointed by the President and approved by Congress who would outnumber the board members who were bankers at that time. Wilson’s plan did not allow for the distribution of wealth and that was the primer for the Great Depression.
No to Obama’s policies that doom America.

Posted by: Truth | October 8, 2008, 5:00 am 5:00 am

Ive relied more on print and cspan and sometimes cnn and Fox but MSNBC is a 24 infomercial for Obama… and if you thugs watched impartial tv like cspan you wouldve found out tonight tha the majority of the callers were less sure about Obama and undecided you cannot run this election into the ground by running otu the clock… I assure you that your coalition will pale in comparison to former hillary people allied with anyone but obama… and at the very least Obama will be president but be forced to take palin as his vp 269-269 mark my words!
Posted by: staniam | Oct 8, 2008 4:55:12 AM
==========================================
If these are your “real words” finally, after all of this time of you posting snide comments bashing Obama, then you are dumber than I ever thought you were staniam!
PALIN/McCain, yeah!
PALIN/McCAIN + TOAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Davis | October 8, 2008, 5:01 am 5:01 am

By the reasoning of the republicans, McCain cannot be President because he “pals” around with Obama (in the Senate). Hell, McCain shook Obama’s hand at the debate.
McCain can’t look Obama in the eye and refers to him as “that one” because McCain is a bit of wimp. He probably can’t look himself in the eye, either.
He let his bigoted constuency force him to read a statement saying he was FOR waving the confederate flag in the last election that he lost. He didn’t learn anything from the public humiliation. He stands for nothing but bigotry.
Obama/Biden 08!
Obama/Biden 08!

Posted by: Common Sense | October 8, 2008, 5:01 am 5:01 am

I put little emphasis on McCain’s, . . . “that one” quip. What IS to be emphasized, however, is McCain’s hawk-like stance on just about everything.
Obama is correct: . . “Agree with your adversary while you are in the way with him.” Or, as it was put more recently, . .”Never negotiate out of fear, but never fear to negotiate.”

Posted by: rakko_japan | October 8, 2008, 5:03 am 5:03 am

PALIN/McCAIN=ERRATIC!
Oh and did I say McNasty LOST the 2nd debate??
NEWS FLASH!!!
PALIN IS INCITING RIOT CONDITIONS AT HER RALLYS – CROWD SCREAMS AND CHATS “KILL HIM” AS SHE TALKS ABOUT BARACK OBAMA BEING A TERRORIST!!!
OH MY GOD………….

Posted by: Davis | October 8, 2008, 5:05 am 5:05 am

Davis
we established that those people at Palins rallies were Obama plants… seems like youve been exposed the secret service should visit you any time now

Posted by: staniam | October 8, 2008, 5:07 am 5:07 am

staniam, no, that has not been established by anything other than an anecdote by another poster.

Posted by: FactCheck | October 8, 2008, 5:09 am 5:09 am

common sense
you have some beef with biggots… in the south they are a part of life and your going to have to accept them with all of your riled up voters because of accorn

Posted by: staniam | October 8, 2008, 5:10 am 5:10 am

((( Mccain is honorable and a little more humble than Obama so he wasnt going to bring up ayers/rezko and ACORN which has been picked up by the main stream media in the form of an investigation of ACORN in Nevada… )))
I believe he was either warned or had the good sense not to bring them up because there is a lot more dirt on McCain that he does not want to resurface.. he has had his hands in a lot of pies over his 20+ years in Congress.
The Keating-5 is one I’m sure he would like to have long gone from the public eye. His sitting on the advisory board for the US council for World Freedom, and it’s parent organization the World Anti-Communist League and their ties to Nicragua and the Iran-Contra ordeal or it’s Latin American group is another.. His continued support of the Kosovo Liberation Army and their terrorist ties is another I doubt he would like to have dragged over the coals in the media.
Tenuous relationships, particulary ones like Ayers and Rezko that have already been tried by Hillary and torn apart at length pale in comparison to some of his direct involvements, so I wouldn’t confuse honor with the more likely motivation of self-preservation.

Posted by: jj1221 | October 8, 2008, 5:10 am 5:10 am

factcheck
and with your name you appear to be impartial but that in fact is true as well as something thats beyond a shadow of a doubt…. ACORN is under investigation

Posted by: staniam | October 8, 2008, 5:11 am 5:11 am

“That one” is not respectful or appropriate for a forum such as this. I’m sure it was not a conscious decision, it’s just that McCain can’t imagine that this black man is his equal, even though this black man is going to defeat him in the final count across the country.
A lot of use are going to step up our efforts, lest this sort of “dog whistle” racism have an impact.

Posted by: Kathleen | October 8, 2008, 5:13 am 5:13 am

McCain’s dishonorable, unChristian campaign has lost this lifelong Christian Republican. Angrily referring to Obama as “That One” sealed the proverbial deal.
If you told me even 6 months ago that I would trust – - and respect – Barack Obama more than John McCain, I would have laughed. But this is where we now are.

Posted by: faithnabove | October 8, 2008, 5:13 am 5:13 am

JJ
not so much torn apart as quashed by an overzealous obama crowd….these issues need to come out because its a judgement thing…the keating 5 has been known for 30 yrs and Howell Heflin who was a corrupt Dem senator from AL included Mccain because the other 4 were democrats

Posted by: staniam | October 8, 2008, 5:14 am 5:14 am

faithnabove
you cant be more transparent as an obama plant

Posted by: staniam | October 8, 2008, 5:15 am 5:15 am

staniam, yes, ACORN was raided in Nevada in response to reports of voter fraud. As the raid happened only earlier tonight, there is no information yet on the results of the raid.
But no, your assertion, based on nothing you can cite, backed up by another poster’s anecdote, based on nothing he could cite, do not make anything true as concerns the people shouting at the Palin rallies. I’m sorry. That’s just not how things work.

Posted by: FactCheck | October 8, 2008, 5:16 am 5:16 am

McClone looks desperate. ANY move towards Senator McClone will be four more years of the same old, same old!
Another definition of insanity is to do the same thing over and over expecting different results.
In other words, if we keep doing what we’ve been doing we’ll keep getting what we’ve been getting.

Posted by: rakko_japan | October 8, 2008, 5:17 am 5:17 am

If McCain shows this level of respect to a senator just imagine what respect he will show the regular man on Main Street.

Posted by: John | October 8, 2008, 5:17 am 5:17 am

Kathleen
please stop crying racism… it worked with hillary when she wasnt even being racist … you can step up your efforts but you dont have the guts or tenacity and certainly dont have a moral advantage with Obamas past ..

Posted by: staniam | October 8, 2008, 5:18 am 5:18 am

McCain came across as condescending, and most likely racist, when he made the remark “that one”. There was a collective gasp in the crowd I was with when the remark was made followed by “can’t believe he said that.” When McCain stood next to Obama at the opening for a handshake, McCain looked small, very old, and of shrinking stature. McCain seemed very old and not like an elderly statesman, certainly not Presidential. Kind of felt sorry for McCain.

Posted by: Lawrence | October 8, 2008, 5:21 am 5:21 am

McAngry is at it again. I will bet any one that by the end of this campaign, McShame will use the “N” word to describe his opponent. It’s sad that it took 26 years for the public to discover the real McCain. SAD is all I can say.

Posted by: cesarganao | October 8, 2008, 5:21 am 5:21 am

Factcheck
Try as you might to justify Obamas involement with ACORN… yes, nobody has been convicted yet but that just proves the larger point about the obama ties… and it is unfair at best and thuglike at worst for obama peopel to insist that everything come out abotu their opponents but not release relevant info that could absolve or incriminate obama

Posted by: staniam | October 8, 2008, 5:21 am 5:21 am

lawrence
using obamabot talking points is ineffective.. you think youve won but you will be demoralized in the next few weeks… nothing you have done has made a difference

Posted by: staniam | October 8, 2008, 5:23 am 5:23 am

Oprah introduced him as “the one”, McCain calls him “that one”.

Posted by: t.g. | October 8, 2008, 5:23 am 5:23 am

t.g.
absolutely… Mccain was trying to mock what Oprah the goddess of chicago ansd even she had enough sense to leave wrights church right away…. but with Mccains manmner of speaking he left a syllable out… its not over you obamasnots that have used race to get what you wnat will in fact put your cause back further

Posted by: staniam | October 8, 2008, 5:25 am 5:25 am

staniam wrote,
“Try as you might to justify Obamas involement with ACORN…yes, nobody has been convicted yet but that just proves the larger point about the obama ties”
I have not written a word justifying anything about ACORN, so I have no real response to that.
However, I’m puzzled by your second statement. You seem to suggest that if no one is convicted, that is evidence of wrongdoing? That seems somewhat contrary to the basic tenets of our justice system. Explain?

Posted by: FactCheck | October 8, 2008, 5:27 am 5:27 am

If you noticed how much McCain hobbled around and kept making notes for himself… my guess is he couldn’t remember Obama’s name. McCain sounded like a bitter man and he looked like an OLD man.

Posted by: Julie | October 8, 2008, 5:33 am 5:33 am

Factcheck
Mccain wasnt convicted or charged in the Keatign 5 whats your point? Obama needs to realease records of his involement with Ayers and how he gave the money to him to use with organizations like ACORN instead of straight school funding

Posted by: staniam | October 8, 2008, 5:36 am 5:36 am

Julie
young people like you call me old and Im 39 that is a personal afront… you have made a mistake by chosing a president by personal appearance… Obama will serve one term if that because he will be laughed out of washington… it really makes me angry when people call others even my age old…. Mccain is the same age as my mother and I guarantee you she coudl do it because shes tough … your an age biggot!

Posted by: staniam | October 8, 2008, 5:38 am 5:38 am

staniam, you’re strangely defensive without cause. You said, about ACORN,
“nobody has been convicted yet but that just proves the larger point about the obama ties”
And I asked you what you meant. Your response is that McCain was not convicted in the Keating 5 scandal, which is true. And then, bizarrely, you asked me what *my* point was. I was not making a point; I was asking you what you meant when you wrote what I quoted above.
I am still waiting to hear what *your* point was.

Posted by: FactCheck | October 8, 2008, 5:40 am 5:40 am

(( the keating 5 has been known for 30 yrs and Howell Heflin who was a corrupt Dem senator from AL included Mccain because the other 4 were democrats ))
And yet, McCain was the only one with close social ties to Keating.. frequently flying in his private jet and on at least three occasions vacationing on Keatings private island in the Bahamas. Given the current financial meltdown and everyone pointing fingers, I’m sure he would like to keep that as low key as possible.
As for the USCWF and KLA, those are direct ties and inescapable relationships, and bring up covert operations and government circumvented support for terrorist organizations dating back to Regan. That involvement has not really been highlighted in the media to date (at least not the mainstream media). Since one of his platform positions is focused on fighting terrorism, how do you think the voting public would react if the media started highlighting his direct support of such?
I’ll be interested to see what, if anything, starts trickling into the MSM when the current issue of Rolling Stone hits the newsstands with McCains face all over the cover.
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/

Posted by: jj1221 | October 8, 2008, 5:43 am 5:43 am

Doesn’t matter if McCain wasn’t convicted of any crime related to the Keating incident. What it shows is that he associated with and was VERY friendly with a person who was in fact convicted of fraud and being responsible for a huge bank failure and government bailout that cost taxpayers billions of dollars.
Palin thinks its ok to suggest that Obama was friends with Ayers, even though he was not anywhere close to as friendly with Ayers as McCain was with Keating.
Obama was never convicted or shown to have done anything wrong…but McCain was ethically in the wrong with his behavhior

Posted by: Paul | October 8, 2008, 5:44 am 5:44 am

Stupid old goober reminds me of Grandpa on the Simpsons!

Posted by: Bill in NC | October 8, 2008, 5:48 am 5:48 am

I hpe Obama does not win because if he does everything will become a race issue!

Posted by: chuck | October 8, 2008, 5:53 am 5:53 am

staniam, your silence speaks volumes.
If you want to change minds, bring your A game, not your C+ game. While a C+ was enough to get our current President through school, it’s not quite enough for me.
You betcha.

Posted by: FactCheck | October 8, 2008, 6:02 am 6:02 am

The term “that one” is at best insulting on a strictly protocol level — the kind of insult that hardly helps a President cross party lines and build consensus, or alliances with foreign countries, or build the peace, or keep the peace. It is typical McCain rhetoric. It is ALSO highly racially charged, and it is impossible that McCain would serve in the Senate over 3 decades, and travel all over the country in this campaign, and not understand that. It was either a slip of the tongue from a crusty old coot that reveals his inner feeling of disdain for his opponent (or anyone who disagrees with him), or a deliberate signal to his white, racist base. Either way, it is not presidential and he should apologize to Senator Obama.

Posted by: Deborah from NC | October 8, 2008, 6:15 am 6:15 am

Obama wants to put Americans back to work with bridge and road building. Just how many Americans can operate heavy construction equipment? How many Americans want a pick and shovel job?
May be that Obama wants to bring back the WPA and CCC. That would be a great way for people to pay for the national health program. People that do not want to work receive no benefits. The WPA and CCC seems great to me, Obama.
For those that do not know about WPA and the CCC:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Works_Progress_Administration
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_Conservation_Corps
When you want government to do for you, the government has the opportunity to give you something you may not like. I will not be seeing you all at camp because I only give to the government.
What do you say? You never realized that could be part of the great plan. Surprise! Surprise!
No to Obama’s policies that doom America.

Posted by: Truth | October 8, 2008, 6:16 am 6:16 am

PALIN/McCAIN=ERRATIC!!!
Oh and did I say McNasty LOST the 2nd debate??
NEWS FLASH!!!
PALIN IS INCITING RIOT CONDITIONS AT HER RALLYS – CROWD SCREAMS AND CHATS “KILL HIM” AS SHE TALKS ABOUT BARACK OBAMA BEING A TERRORIST!!!
OH MY GOD………….

Posted by: Davis | October 8, 2008, 6:22 am 6:22 am

The todo over “that one” is about as petty as it gets. McCain does enough slimey and stupid things, but this isn’t one of them.

Posted by: Hank | October 8, 2008, 6:23 am 6:23 am

Not surprising to hear this from Obama people- Racist! Whenever possible, it’s RACIST! How pathetic.
Obama’s overplaying that race card at every opportunity. It’s not going to mean anything after he’s through with the word.

Posted by: Paul | October 8, 2008, 6:23 am 6:23 am

“That one”, and the meanness of Gov. Palan’s insuations, demonstrate the true spirit of McCain’s campaign–and perhaps his personality.
We all heard earlier about his temper. He may have held his outbursts in check–so far, but his comment may well have revealed his new way to get mean and nasty.
One might think that a candidate who was undercut by “W” in a primary would have a better sense for the need for dignity and statesmanship.

Posted by: Jim from TN | October 8, 2008, 6:23 am 6:23 am

Paul:
How about giving us a few examples of the Obama campaign (his campaign, not people here) ‘playing the race care’ in his campaign against McCain. I don’t think because you are lying.

Posted by: Hank | October 8, 2008, 6:28 am 6:28 am

“That One” is indicative of a huge amount of disrespect from inside of McCain. Barack Obama is a Senator. This is not the type of person that I want in leadership. What do you tell your kids? It ‘s okay to be disrespectful just as long as you wear a suit?
Also, I would to share that his first name “Barach” is a Jewish name, an extension of name “Baruch” which no one in the media or public seems to mention. To say that all muslims are terrorists is just like saying that all priests like to have sex with little boys… total ignorance. …And to say that Obama is a muslim because of the name that he was given, even when he said with clarity, that he is not a muslim, but he is a chrsitian, … is also ignorant.

Posted by: Vince | October 8, 2008, 6:30 am 6:30 am

Factcheck
my point was Obama may have been comlicit in other peoples crimes that doesnt make him culpable I agree but who one associates with makes the person…. and Obama has had continued counsel from ACORN and Wright and rezko etc… Im not a sean hannity zeaolot but if someone professes to be pure ten they better damn well be!

Posted by: staniam | October 8, 2008, 6:32 am 6:32 am

Vince:
They know he is a Christian. Lying is just their nature.

Posted by: Hank | October 8, 2008, 6:33 am 6:33 am

Obama smears John McCain with being a bush clone and singing bomb bomb iran (that is pretty disrespectful on national TV) and McCain was taking an attack back to Obama about a lie he just told about a voting record, and your all up in arms about what he said.
Obama IS ALWAYS disrespecting mccain at his rallies, ALWAYS.

Posted by: Louise | October 8, 2008, 6:35 am 6:35 am

I also don’t think it was meant racially. But it was none the less very rude.My fellow Americans, if you’re planning on voting for McCain, please reconsider!! THE MAN IS A LOOSE CANON.I really believe Senator Obama to be the best choice for our Country in this grave time of need.We need a Politician not a Warmonger.

Posted by: Cajunman 1962 | October 8, 2008, 6:36 am 6:36 am

MaCain confusses me all the time as he gets very unclear, I think age is catching up. MaCain distancing himself from Bush is stubing his own party and that is why his separation from Bush 8 years is just not possible

Posted by: maua | October 8, 2008, 6:37 am 6:37 am

LET’S FACE IT.
McCain is a bitter man.
McCain is offended that he has to compete with a person who does not look like himself.
McCain is arrogant and snobbish.
McCain cheated on his first wife and married only a week after his divorce, which says something about his character. Why not just divorce first? Why cheat?
McCain, also is trying desperately to make up for the fact that he let his father down, by betraying his country and his fellow soldiers. He’s a hero? Why? …because he got captured? He gave in to their requests. His father told him he was disappointed. That’s a heavy burden. …but, you don’t seek to mess up the lives of everyone else by becoming president and acting as if you are concerned, when you are not, .. except for those who are covered in oil greed.

Posted by: Vince | October 8, 2008, 6:38 am 6:38 am

A few Republicans’ views on McCain’s temperment and character:
————————————-
“The thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine. He is erratic. – Senator Thad Cochran, R-MS
“I decided I didn’t want this guy anywhere near a trigger.” – Senator Pete Domenici, R-NM
“There’s nothing redeeming about John McCain…he’s a hypocrite.” – Former House GOP Whip Tom DeLay
“He is a vicious person. They so disliked him that they wouldn’t support him. – Former Representative Charles LeBoutillier, R-NY
“His temper would place this country at risk in international affairs, and the world perhaps in danger. In my mind, that should disqualify him.” – Former Senator Bob Smith, R-NH
“What happens if he gets angry in crisis in the presidency? It’s the president’s job to negotiate and stay calm. I just don’t see that he has that quality.” – Former Arizona GOP Chairman John Hinz
“Hardheaded is one way to say it. Arrogant is another way to say it. Hubristic is another way to say it. Too proud for his own good is another way to say it. It’s a quality about him that disturbs me.” Larry Wilkerson, former chief aide to Colin Powell
“John McCain is Bob Dole minus the charm, conservatism, and youth. Unlike McCain, Dole didn’t lie all the time while claiming to engage in ‘straight talk.’” – Ann Coulter
——————————-
For more quotes on McCain from Republicans: http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2006/7/5/00548.shtml

Posted by: Bugg | October 8, 2008, 6:40 am 6:40 am

Vince
Baracks name ends with a ck obvioulsy and thats not jewish… your point taken and discarded

Posted by: staniam | October 8, 2008, 6:45 am 6:45 am

Louise:
“Obama smears John McCain with being a bush clone”
———————————-
In McCain’s own words:
“No. I–the fact is that I’m different but the fact is that I have agreed with President Bush far more than I have disagreed. And on the transcendent issues, the most important issues of our day, I’ve been totally in agreement and support of President Bush.”

Posted by: Bugg | October 8, 2008, 6:46 am 6:46 am

After 10 reviews of computer memory, we saw McCain introduce his wife Cindy to Obama. However, Obama never introduced his wife Michelle to McCain. In Fact, Michelle never looked Cindy in the eyes. How immature of Michelle not to look Cindy in the eyes.

Posted by: Truth | October 8, 2008, 6:47 am 6:47 am

Mccain is not Bush … you think youve won but there as many radical republicans out there that will vote for mccain because palin is on the ticket… I dont mind helping them out even though Im a democrat… Barack will serve one term and be a mess and Clinton will run against palin… no amount of trahing or threats by obamabots will prevent clinton from running again

Posted by: staniam | October 8, 2008, 6:48 am 6:48 am

Truth
whether you are being facdetious or not that is the truth

Posted by: staniam | October 8, 2008, 6:49 am 6:49 am

Stanian:
Are you serious? lol Look it up. I shant waste my time trying to type common sense to you.

Posted by: Vince | October 8, 2008, 6:51 am 6:51 am

Democrats on John McCain
SEN. DASCHLE: He can work with Democrats on key issues whether it’s campaign finance reform or tobacco policy. He’s worked with us.
SEN. BIDEN: John McCain is a personal friend, a great friend and I would be honored to run with or against John McCain.
SEN. KERRY: I have enormous respect for him. He’s a courageous, patriotic American who stands up for what he believes.
HOWARD DEAN: I admire Senator McCain greatly, he’s one of the people we modeled our campaign over because he is very direct, very blunt, and nobody has to guess at what he’s thinking.
SEN. FEINGOLD: I love John McCain, he’s a great guy.
SEN. OBAMA: Since coming to Washington, I’ve believed that the right approach begins with the proposal put forward by Senator Lieberman and Senator McCain.
SEN. CLINTON: I know Senator McCain has a lifetime of experience he will bring to the White House. And Senator Obama has a speech he gave in 2002.

Posted by: Badger | October 8, 2008, 6:53 am 6:53 am

That’s funny, I guess us non-racist people thought “That One” referred to tax and spend liberals and other democrats. Why is it that everyone liberals always turn back to racism? The McCains have an adopted daughter who is more ethnic than Barack…

Posted by: DaveM | October 8, 2008, 6:55 am 6:55 am

If it’s racist to vote against a Racist – then I am a racist!

Posted by: Mike W | October 8, 2008, 6:55 am 6:55 am

Vince
I read Obamas first book at no time was he connected to anything jewish apparently the faithful were told not to read that book because it had some things about his past that were sketchy

Posted by: staniam | October 8, 2008, 6:56 am 6:56 am

Dave
I was flabergasted at the right for doing the things they have done in the past but now Im with them

Posted by: staniam | October 8, 2008, 6:57 am 6:57 am

“That one” — must be a southern term (no rude insinuation meant) because I am older than McCain, live in the Midwest and have never heard “That one” to describe an Afro-American. In my mid-western dialect, “that one” would be used to describe someone you wanted to disrespect without resorting to name calling.
It pained me to see McCain “hobble” around the stage and expect that people are going to feel safe in his hands. And that condescending “coddling/whisper like” voice, that just doesn’t work. He’s got the answer? I have his answer!

Posted by: Yankee | October 8, 2008, 6:57 am 6:57 am

So Vince, why do you play into the hands of the people who try to smear Obama? By debating the origin of Obama’s name, you make it seem as if it is an important issue when it’s not.
Everyone knows who Obama is (e.g., Christian — again, not that it should matter)

Posted by: Bugg | October 8, 2008, 7:00 am 7:00 am

You must use your own special dictionary (facdetious) as I am telling the catamaran or katotohanan as I know it.
Vote for Obama’s policies and choose your work program.

Posted by: Truth | October 8, 2008, 7:02 am 7:02 am

Staniam:
We all have names. Are we all bound to the meaning of our respective names given to us by someone else? To even suggest he is muslim, because of his name, even when he has clarified this silly notion, is a waste of people’s time.
His mother, who was white, gave him that name. Was she muslim? Let’s start talking real. This is why I am so very disgusted with republican views. They distort, lie unashamedly, and insist on undignified ways of getting to an end…. and there is an extreme and utter arrogance about it. As if there won’t be any consequences, and yet… the consequence was what we are experiencing now.

Posted by: Vince | October 8, 2008, 7:06 am 7:06 am

Obama’s Lead Narrowed Down To Only 2 Points.
NASHVILLE, Tennessee (Reuters) – Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama has a slim 2-point lead on Republican rival John McCain in a tight White House race, according to a Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby poll released on Wednesday.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081008/pl_nm/us_usa_politics_poll_6
(Obamorons, please don’t shoot the messenger)

Posted by: nononsense08 | October 8, 2008, 7:07 am 7:07 am

I really lost respect for McCain after this debate. Calling Obama “that one” and not shaking his hand at the end of the debate. What if it had been in reverse, Obama saying “that one” about him?? That would have been another story.
McCain should have thought about having Palin as a running mate. McCain says Obama is inexperienced – take a look at his running mate. She even made comments about Biden’s age – what about McCain’s age???? I understand from someone in Wasilla that as mayor. she was thought of an airhead – just what we need. If the polls show him losing ground, he had better take a look at his choice of running mate and his choice of words.

Posted by: kmn | October 8, 2008, 7:08 am 7:08 am

Vince, put down that mug of koolaid, and get yourself to poison control. There may still be hope.

Posted by: Badger | October 8, 2008, 7:09 am 7:09 am

I used to respect John McCain. I might even have voted for him. It’s so disappointing to see the way he has decided to run this campaign. Calling Barack Obama “that one” was the final straw for me. How much more dehumanizing could he have been? It’s reminiscent of an ugly time in America. A presidential candidate should be above speaking that way about his opponent in a public debate.

Posted by: DisappointedIndependent | October 8, 2008, 7:09 am 7:09 am

This article has nothing in it about ‘race’. It’s about McCain’s tendency to lose his cool anytime he is stressed.
It is posters here from both sides of the political aisle that have injected race into it.

Posted by: Bugg | October 8, 2008, 7:10 am 7:10 am

BHO and his wife are the Racists. I would never consider voting for him if he were purple – HE IS A MARXIST thug Democrat pol from Chicago! People with brains disqualified him when they found this out.

Posted by: Mike W | October 8, 2008, 7:11 am 7:11 am

Obama’s Lead Narrowed Down To 4 Points, CBS Poll Found.
(CBS) In a sign that the race for president has returned to about where it was before the first presidential debate, the Obama-Biden ticket leads the McCain-Palin ticket 47 percent to 43 percent among registered voters in a new CBS News poll.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/06/opinion/polls/main4504633.shtml?source=mostpop_story&tag=mostPopularTabsContent;mostPopularTabsStories

Posted by: nononsense08 | October 8, 2008, 7:12 am 7:12 am

Lol It is fairly enlightening to see that the supporters of McCain, are just like McCain and Palin, and most republicans; in that, when they have nothing of value to say, … when constructive conversation is not within their grasp, … they turn to attacking the person and the person’ character. Just read the comments, it’s fairly clear.
I have no doubt that I will make the correct decision, when I go to place my vote. Thank you all for your comments.

Posted by: Vince | October 8, 2008, 7:15 am 7:15 am

Despite what some posters here have alleged, McCain did NOT refer to himself as “this one.” If he had referred to Barack as “that one,” and then himself as “this one,” it would have made sense stylistically, as in “Who are you for? This one or that one?” But what he did was say was “You know who voted for it?… That one. You know who voted against it? Me.” As a linguistic device it would have worked much better if he had said “this one” abut himself. As it was, it came out glaringly awkward and transparently hostile.

Posted by: Honora Price-Laszlo | October 8, 2008, 7:17 am 7:17 am

Plea to the Media:
Please keep these associations of Senator Obama in your news coverage daily.
Google anyone of these characters and it’s enough to rethink if Obama is the “All American Guy”
First it was convicted political fixer Antoin “Tony” Rezko;
then it was Nadhmi Auchi;
then it was William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn; the domestic terrorist
then it was Rashid Khalidi;
then it was Rev. Wright, Rev. Meeks, Rev. Otis, Father Pfleger
then “black liberation theology’ and the ten point system taught at Obama’s church: Trinity United Church of Christ,
then it was Louis Farrakhan; the “Nation of Islam” leader from Chicago
then it was the New Black Panthers;
then it was Aiham Alsammarae;
then it was Jodie Evans;
then it was Hamas;
then it was Hugo Chavez;
then it was Fidel Castro;
then it was Muammar al-Gaddafi;
then it was North Korea’s Kim Jong-Il;
then it was the Communist Party USA;
then it was ___; and then it was ___.
Please have your “fair and balanced” media coverage remind the public of Obama’s past
Barack Hussein Obama doesn’t sound “All American” to me and to my community.
If the media doesn’t keep these associations in the forefront, we might have Obama with his risky radical ruthless associates in our lives.
Obama is risky, radical and far from Patriotic.

Posted by: al; from nj | October 8, 2008, 7:18 am 7:18 am

I seriously doubt anyone who was going to vote for McCain changed his mind because he called Barack “that one”. McCain wasn’t angry he was just telling a fact.Maybe that is what you object to..

Posted by: reality801 | October 8, 2008, 7:19 am 7:19 am

What sounds american? Sally? Jeff? Who is truly american?
I hope your rendition of america, is not of the rendition of what Hitler wanted.

Posted by: Vince | October 8, 2008, 7:20 am 7:20 am

Anyone notice that McCain said that we require a “Steady hand on the tiller” – twice? Sounds like McCain is endorsing Obama….

Posted by: Steve from NH | October 8, 2008, 7:21 am 7:21 am

“That one!” Does America need a white old man in the white house that has no sensetivity towards black America…I think not!

Posted by: zorar | October 8, 2008, 7:23 am 7:23 am

reality801:
You are correct. Few are likely to change their choice of candidate this late in the campaign.

Posted by: Bugg | October 8, 2008, 7:24 am 7:24 am

Did anyone notice that toward the end of the debate mccain did not use his mic. I think the guy was getting tired and it was way past his bedtime. Obama/Biden 2008!!!

Posted by: pt | October 8, 2008, 7:24 am 7:24 am

McCain is he a closet racist?

Posted by: zorar | October 8, 2008, 7:25 am 7:25 am

Get ready everybody, because the Dems the media, and Obama surrogates are about to play the worn out ole race card again. They are so predictable.

Posted by: Badger | October 8, 2008, 7:26 am 7:26 am

And the thruth comes out. The first debate, McCrazy did not look at Obama one time. Second debate he looked at Obama and called him “THAT ONE” The hood comes off.

Posted by: mgraymoon | October 8, 2008, 7:26 am 7:26 am

Well he is ” THE ONE ” so whats the big deal. We have been hearing that ever since that racist Oprah Winfrey brought him to Iowa and S Carolina. Obama talked down to McCain and constantly criticized him. McCain was way too polite – he should have been venomous and brought up all the distortions and lies that Obamas campign tells, plus the money chain and the voter fraud that his ACORN buddies have created. Obama pledged to run a different type of campaign but he resorts to the cess pool politics that he learned and practiced in Chicago.,

Posted by: jimbo | October 8, 2008, 7:27 am 7:27 am

The reason McCain was not as ‘COOL’ as Obama is because he deeply cares about this country. I can’t wait for democrats to control the congress and the presidency. I guess we will find out the hard way what it is like to live under far far far left wing agenda. Welcome to Socialist States of America

Posted by: Socialist _States_of_America | October 8, 2008, 7:28 am 7:28 am

TRUE Quote – (Dreams of My Father) – I ceased to advertise my mother’s race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.
TRUE Quote – (Dreams of My Father) – I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother’s race. [Townhall, “The Truth About Obama’s Disdain for White People”
TRUE Quote - (Dreams of My Father) – There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white. [Is Race the Issue? – forum site]
TRUE Quote – (Dreams of My Father) – It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.
TRUE Quote – (Dreams of My Father) – I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn’t speak to my own. It was into my father’s image, the black man, son of Africa, that I’d packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.
Partially True Quote – (Audacity of Hope) – (page 261) -
Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific reassurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese interments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.

Posted by: Badger | October 8, 2008, 7:29 am 7:29 am

mccain needs to pick out one of his 10 houses and retire quietly on Nov. 5th.

Posted by: pt | October 8, 2008, 7:29 am 7:29 am

I have a few names for Zero-bama too, and “that one” is not one of them. How about socialist, Marxist, Communist? How about friend of terrorists? How about accomplice of radical groups like ACORN who intimidated banks into giving people home mortgages who could not pay them back, which led to this financial mess we’re in now?
And the above criticism of McCain and his military and academic career, Zero-bama has no military career to examine much less criticize. And how come he has never released his academic records for scrutiny? The Beatles wrote a prophetic song about Zero-bama – “Nowhere Man.”

Posted by: Artie Curtis | October 8, 2008, 7:29 am 7:29 am

Interpret however you wish, it could have been racist or ..it could have been senility, him simply forgetting Obamas name which is the way I am leaning. Thats scary in its own context showing his age IS a factor. But more telling was the fact that as Obama tried to shake McCains hand he refused to return the handshake. THAT is something McCain shouldnt have done beause it makes “that one” stand out more clearly as possible racist.

Posted by: Fairfax | October 8, 2008, 7:30 am 7:30 am

“”That One” is what old white people refer to black people as when they don’t want to be bothered with their name. It drums up alot of harsh memories.”
Yeah, Bennie – it’s pure racism. That’s sarcasm in case you can tell, Bennie.

Posted by: Artie Curtis | October 8, 2008, 7:30 am 7:30 am

Well obviously the hopey-changey thing does not work for the Obamatrons anymore. They have to resort to obfuscating the issues. So much for a “refreshing breath of fresh air in Washington.”

Posted by: skipndeebar | October 8, 2008, 7:32 am 7:32 am

mccain can probably get a gig like Bob Dole did and advertise Viagra after the election to keep himself busy.

Posted by: pt | October 8, 2008, 7:32 am 7:32 am

Badger:
The only peoople ‘playing the race card’ are the posters here. Do you think we should hold McCain accountable for the disinformation that you and his other supporters post?

Posted by: Bugg | October 8, 2008, 7:33 am 7:33 am

I know how to do it, vote for me. That on don’t. How pathetic!

Posted by: release | October 8, 2008, 7:34 am 7:34 am

Obama Has color skin he looks like Motzzerella…

Posted by: jack | October 8, 2008, 7:35 am 7:35 am

Too bad that there are some very ignorant right wingers in our fine nation. Personally, I think those calling him “Hussein” etc., ought to take your racism and move to somewhere it’s more appreciated. Try Zimbabwe. Or maybe Mars. Please.
I dont know, Bob, you left-wingers are the ones who are always talking about leaving America for a socialist paradise. I dont see any of you moving yet. I also offered to donate money for a plane ticket for a few of the Hollywood left-wingers if they’d move but nobody took me up on my offer.
America is my home and my country, and I’ll make my stand against leftism and socialism where I always have. No two-bit socialist wannabe like Hussein Obama is going to run me off.
And what’s wrong with using his middle name anyway? He was given it, it’s his, and it’s not racist to use it.
But racism is the only argument you lefties have going for you.

Posted by: Artie Curtis | October 8, 2008, 7:36 am 7:36 am

McSame is an old man who forgot Obamas name. I think it’s an issue of senility.

Posted by: Amber -NY | October 8, 2008, 7:38 am 7:38 am

Why dont you stick to the issues, PT? You’ve lost the debate when you resort to personal attacks. But that seems to be what you Obamanistas do. You cant support your argument with real facts.

Posted by: Artie Curtis | October 8, 2008, 7:39 am 7:39 am

Artie Curtis, nah we like it here, thats what the change thing is all about. We will chnage this to make it better, and we will ship idiots like you to someplace else, or if you prefer we will send you to a better place…

Posted by: mitch | October 8, 2008, 7:41 am 7:41 am

I live in the south too, Nash, and in all my years I’ve never heard that term used for anybody. What part of the south are you from? South Philly, South Chicago, South LA?

Posted by: Artie Curtis | October 8, 2008, 7:42 am 7:42 am

The Republican senator’s lawyer in the case, John Dowd, told reporters in a conference call Monday that McCain had been the victim of “a political smear job” by Senate Democrats. When a reporter noted that McCain himself has spoken contritely about his role, Dowd responded, “I’m his lawyer and I have a different view of it.”
Dowd, in his conference call, wouldn’t tolerate a hint of an apology for McCain’s actions. “John was the only senator who threw Charlie Keating out of his office,” he said, reminding reporters of a well-publicized confrontation. Keating had called McCain a wimp for failing to do more to influence financial regulators on his behalf.

Posted by: Truth | October 8, 2008, 7:43 am 7:43 am

Amber, good point. McCain’s mind is slipping. It happens when you get that old.

Posted by: Bugg | October 8, 2008, 7:43 am 7:43 am

OOOOHHHHH! How dare he call Obama “that one.” It’s heresy to all the liberal nutjobs to refer to “THE CHOSEN ONE” as if he’s just a regular schmoe. Really, if that’s all you can come away with from this debate, you are mentally disfunctional. If I had some big monkey constantly calling me George Bush III, I’d be condescending too. OOOOHHHHH, I said Obama was a monkey. Let that Marxist indoctrination kick in and call me a racist hatemonger, you pathetic liberal automatons.

Posted by: raybojabo | October 8, 2008, 7:43 am 7:43 am

Yeah, I think OBAMA is THE ONE

Posted by: kawasaki | October 8, 2008, 7:44 am 7:44 am

Artie Curtis, yeah im not surprised you come from the South. Is the South gonna rise again Artie? Doubtful son, considering your granpa got his butt whipped and set straight on the issues. You rebs will never learn to stop being racist even after you had your arse handed to you. losers. We could always do it again…

Posted by: mitch | October 8, 2008, 7:45 am 7:45 am

It’s hardly some super-negative gaffe fro McCain. He obviously meant it in sneering jest. But it does sort of add to the image that McCain is a grump oldster, yelling at “that one” to “get off my lawn.”
http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: matt | October 8, 2008, 7:45 am 7:45 am

Dear Bugg, I don’t know if McCain’s mind is slipping, but Obama’s character has slipped long time ago. Welcome to Socialist States of America. I guess the radicalization of america has began.

Posted by: Socialist _States_of_America | October 8, 2008, 7:49 am 7:49 am

“Interesting read, Republican voters are the least educated in the country and Democratic voters are the most educated,that is a polled fact, check it. ”
Yeah, truth, and look at the mess the “educated” socialist democrats have gotten this country into. And I’m not talking about just the financial mess either, I’m talking decline of the nation overall thanks to democrat policies, the decline of the schools, abortion on demand, the culture in the dumpster, God removed from every public venue, cities taken over by gangs of illegal aliens, Obama buddy and bomber Bill Ayers in charge of “reforming” Chicago schools.
Yeah, education is the ticket. Leave your common sense at home when you go to college.
I spent my life working with highly educated people. The majority of them were dumber than a sack of hammers. Their common sense, if they had any to begin with, was educated right out of them.
BTW – would you care to give a source for your info?

Posted by: Artie Curtis | October 8, 2008, 7:49 am 7:49 am

Am I the only one that observed that Mrs.McCain keeps her hands behind her back at just about every public event. These people are in this to win. This is a contest, they can care less about the common man black or white. She is so out of touch and elite she refuses to even shake “white folks” hands. Do you want a first lady that looks down on
the American people as if we are peasants. Wake up America they are campaigning for a spot in history as Mr. & Mrs. President!

Posted by: Observer | October 8, 2008, 7:50 am 7:50 am

Obama and his supporters have played the race card way to often. People are immune to it now since it is used in situations that have nothing to do with race. It is sad really because when really racist remarks happen nobody will care.

Posted by: reality801 | October 8, 2008, 7:51 am 7:51 am

“Democrats are the most educated”???? Is that why so many of them are on welfare? Entitlement was always a platform for democrats (not republicans).

Posted by: Socialist _States_of_America | October 8, 2008, 7:53 am 7:53 am

It was a jolt in the debate. I was shocked when McCain said “that one.” It was dismissive at best, but it has so many other meanings in the US that it was just plain dumb to say. Now McCain camp gets to keep explaining this stupid remark instead of talking about the issues. Oh, and while McCain/Palin continue to try to tell us how scary Obama is, the world markets plunged further overnight – sure would like to know what McCain is going to do to fix this other than say “I can do it!”
Obama won the debate.

Posted by: jdinhouston | October 8, 2008, 7:53 am 7:53 am

The Rolling Stone rag fills its pages with distortions and half-truths. Any one that believes the Rolling Stone rag is not bias believes in the boogieman. If the Rolling Stone rag were no bias, they would print this link:
http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaLatest.htm
Vote for Obama’s policies and choose your work program

Posted by: Truth | October 8, 2008, 7:53 am 7:53 am

In my mind and I am sure in many other people’s minds the only thing that would have been worse would have been if he had used the term “you people”. The subtext and underlying intent of McCain’s statement is the same and shows his true colors. One would expect a debate in the campaign for the office of President of the United States would be conducted with at least minimum civility and respect. This comment by McCain is an insight into his character and his fitness for the office that he seeks. It is a sign of his desperation and his sinking position in the polls that he is resorting to character assassination and snide remarks, but isn’t that what the Republicans always do when they want to win an election? Well I have news for you Senator McCain; it is not going to work this time.

Posted by: Brian, Decatur, GA | October 8, 2008, 7:53 am 7:53 am

I think yesterday’s debate told the true story, that is McCain just seems older in body, mind, and spirit than the 72 years. At times he even physically older and not at all a picture of energy or vitality. He really needs to call it a day, this job is not for someone his age. Let’s be honest about it, he simply does look like he has a lot of gas left in the tank. We all at some point have to know when to call it quits. McCain should know that too and stop being delusional and self centered in his quest for power.

Posted by: Jake | October 8, 2008, 7:53 am 7:53 am

“the aging brain has more trouble retrieving information and doing more than one thing at a time, and at times it can forget a name. …”

Posted by: JMC | October 8, 2008, 7:53 am 7:53 am

McCain is running a RACIST, NEGATIVE CAMPAIGN and it shows!!
TO ALL MCCAIN’S SUPPORTERS, PLEASE KEEP YOUR KKK HOODIES ON BECAUSE HALLOWEEN IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER!!!!
REPUBLICAN CAMPAIGN RUNNING ON RACIAL FEAR, STEROTYPE, SMEAR AND HATE!!!
NO STRATEGY!!!
NO STRATEGY!!!
NO STRATEGY!!!
OBAMA/BIDEN08
REAL CHANGE THAT YOU CAN BELIEVE IN!!!

Posted by: sisterdearest09 | October 8, 2008, 7:54 am 7:54 am

This country does not have racism, they finally convicted O.J.

Posted by: No_More_Race_Card | October 8, 2008, 7:56 am 7:56 am

Moronic… Obama is still an empty suit who is really likable and reads a good speech.
Anyone who talks about raising spending with our economy and deficit is either a. pandering or b. a marxist. Saying it is “offset” by pulling out of Iraq is stupid. Ok, now we just broke even (which would be fine if we weren’t already trillions in debt). Every year I have to live within my budget. I don’t get to go back to my boss and ask for a raise because I spent too much (i.e. California). Everything I buy means there is something I can’t buy. I have to make choices… we should demand the same from our government. People like obama because a. he says he’ll give you free stuff b. he’s not bush and c. he’s black. only b. is a good reason to vote for him… except for the fact he is not running against bush.

Posted by: Brad | October 8, 2008, 7:56 am 7:56 am

reality:
“Obama and his supporters have played the race card way to often.”
———————————-
That is a lie. Obama has rarely if ever done that in this campaign against McCain.
But what the hell. Spread all the lies you can, and hope they stick to some people. Right?

Posted by: Hank | October 8, 2008, 7:57 am 7:57 am

Perhaps he meant to say “the one”. If there is anyone who watched the snooze fest that actally works and pays taxes(sorry students and government dependents) who does not realize that they both won the debate but we as taxpayers lost…taxpayers under Obama will need more lubricant when grabbing the ankles but we are totally screwed with either.

Posted by: david | October 8, 2008, 7:58 am 7:58 am

Obama used a race card against Clinton as well. Even Bill Clinton had to defend himself in an interview by stating “I am not a racist”. Bill has done more for black community than any other politicians, but I guess black community has a very short memory. Shame on you.

Posted by: No_More_Race_Card | October 8, 2008, 8:00 am 8:00 am

Obama,watched the debate last night and you were definitely on top.Just want to say,that from what I’ve seen,you have the makings to become a great president.
Just do me one big favor willyou?The next time McCain mouths off about how much he saved the country on the boeing tanker contract,ask him how much money Airbus gave him and his pals to try and give this contract to Airbus,so they could make a tanker that won’t even fit in our hangers,will cost more to operate and will need ten times the amount of repairs than the Boeing tanker would.
I really like the part about how Airbus will build a plant in the U.S. to build there plane here.If you believe that,I have some beachfront property here in the state of Kansas that I’ll sell you real cheap.
Whats next?Are we going to let N.Korea build our next submarine?You think I’m joking?All they would have to do is go into partners with some navy shipbuilder on the east coast and they would build the sub,of course they would send it over here to the us shipbuilders,so they could put the hubcaps on it.You say to yourself that it’s not plausible? Trust me,from what I’ve seen that goes on in Mccain’s little mind,it definitely could happen if you gave him enough money.

Posted by: Gerald Selvidge | October 8, 2008, 8:00 am 8:00 am

It means McCain believes Obama is 3/4th human like some of his forefathers.
McCAIN DOESN’T GET IT — America has evolved; America is proving to be better than that.

Posted by: America08 | October 8, 2008, 8:02 am 8:02 am

I don’t wnat a victim for a President .. whether in fact or merely how the person reacts to the world, victims who feel entitled to getting fairer treatment for themselves or being recognized for their pain are not what our nation needs in its leaders

Posted by: Step Bilal | October 8, 2008, 8:03 am 8:03 am

I don’t want a victim for a President .. whether in fact or merely how the person reacts to the world, victims who feel entitled to getting fairer treatment for themselves or being recognized for their pain are not what our nation needs in its leaders

Posted by: Step Bilal | October 8, 2008, 8:04 am 8:04 am

The only racist here are the ALL MIGHTY OBAMA brainwashed masses. Wake up people! This guy and his supporters hate and want to destroy the Constitution and replace it with European or even Soviet style Socialism. McCain isn’t perfect. No one is. But, OMG look @ what this guys stands for. He’s not one bit conceired with the lower or middle class. He just wants to exploit them. Remember what he said in San Fran. in front of his RICH LIBERAL FRIENDS about us being bitter. That was an elitest shot @ us ordinary lower and middle class people. Wake up. Him or all of his pundants don’t give a rats you know what about us. Elect this guy and we all pay dearly for it!! I will not be suprised though all who swallowed his garbage will. We have been warned. Oh, did I mention that he has “friendly” relations with a domestist terrorist,a convicted slum lord,a racist pastor that he only seperated himself from when it became a problem for him and then there is ACORN. Sit down and think about it.

Posted by: Craig Coghill | October 8, 2008, 8:04 am 8:04 am

Mitch – I wont even dignify your comment with an answer. As I said, you’ve lost the debate when you get personal.

Posted by: Artie Curtis | October 8, 2008, 8:05 am 8:05 am

I imagine McCain regrets ever having started his campaign for POTUS. He is exhausted. He is stressed. He is trying to win to impress his father, but it is taking its toll on him.
Between exhaustion and his own violent temperament, he is just not to the job.

Posted by: Bugg | October 8, 2008, 8:06 am 8:06 am

“It means McCain believes Obama is 3/4th human like some of his forefathers.”
Actually, America08, it was 3/5th of a person. And I’ll bet the rent you dont know why that figure was used in the first place.

Posted by: Artie Curtis | October 8, 2008, 8:07 am 8:07 am

It’s clear to see last night, who will be the best President and that is John McCain! I counted over 15 times where Obama agree with Sen. McCain. McCain blew Obama away on health care, the economy, foreign affairs and clearly connected with the audience better than the “golden boy” of the mainstream media.

Posted by: JT | October 8, 2008, 8:08 am 8:08 am

“Bill (Clinton) has done more for black community than any other politicians”
—————————————
That statemnt gets repeated often. But there are many politicians, black and white, that have done a lot more for the black community. Not a knock on Bill, just reality.

Posted by: Bugg | October 8, 2008, 8:11 am 8:11 am

I thought the American public had become so used to McCain’s anger management problem and his struggle to behave, that I am surprised people actually noticed this.

Posted by: rigatoni28 | October 8, 2008, 8:12 am 8:12 am

Once again, McCain has demonstrated a lack of respect and class!!!

Posted by: WalkerFergie | October 8, 2008, 8:12 am 8:12 am

My Mom taught me better manners.

Posted by: Ted | October 8, 2008, 8:12 am 8:12 am

The first presidential candidate for whom I donated money was John McCain. I’ve been close to him at a rally and posted his signs at my business and home. No longer. Obama was level headed and unflappable last night and I trust far more than McCain to be our next president.
As to the “that one” comment. True, it was better than “that boy.” But the underlying disrespect and racism was palpable. I was furious when McCain was smeared by the Bush campaign in South Carolina in 2000, but it worked. McCain knows that racism is alive and well and can sway an election. I hope it doesn’t work this time.

Posted by: Ruth Tucker | October 8, 2008, 8:13 am 8:13 am

As a person of color, I am outraged over McCain’s hatred of Obama — it’s obviously because of his color. McCain is respectful of all of the white candidates; it’s only Obama that he treats disrespectfully. Does this mean that McCain won’t be on the side of people of color? Of course it does. He only cares about white people. And now he’s inciting people in his rallies to kill Obama. Shame on you, McCain. Go back to your Jim Crow era!

Posted by: Wendy Huong | October 8, 2008, 8:14 am 8:14 am

It was a mistake for McCain to refer to Obama as “that one.” He should have just referred to Obama as “that.”

Posted by: tina | October 8, 2008, 8:16 am 8:16 am

Of course it was a “slap” but what else would one expect. It is pitiful that McLame and the rest of his group are sinking to such lows. We need serious discussions and debates about the frightening country and world we currently live in. Instead we get desperation, division and racist comments. From this point until November 5, I will refer to “them” as McLame and Pain in every comment I make. Just when I think McLame and Pain can’t stoop any lower, they do!

Posted by: Sharon | October 8, 2008, 8:16 am 8:16 am

The comment of “that one” made by John McCain when referring to Sen. Obama in the debate last night was totally unacceptable. I’m STILL angry about it! The American people no longer have ANY tolerance for that kind of crap! Senator McCain…how indignant of you.

Posted by: Sul | October 8, 2008, 8:17 am 8:17 am

McCain is a racist. Palin is a racist. Listen to their words on the stump. But even worse, McCain is a coward. He says one thing in his negative ads and on the stump, but face-to-face with Obama he is reduced to calling him “that one.” What a coward. McCain is a coward. I think he’s afraid of Obama.

Posted by: Ann, Omaha | October 8, 2008, 8:17 am 8:17 am

OOOOHHHHH! How dare he call Obama “that one.” It’s heresy to all the liberal nutjobs to refer to “THE CHOSEN ONE” as if he’s just a regular schmoe. Really, if that’s all you can come away with from this debate, you are mentally disfunctional. If I had some big monkey constantly calling me George Bush III, I’d be condescending too. OOOOHHHHH, I said Obama was a monkey. Let that Marxist indoctrination kick in and call me a racist hatemonger, you pathetic liberal automatons.
ME:>>>>> Bravely written by an ignorant piece of lifeless c.r.a.p. I notice how safe and secure you are saying that BS from behind your computer monitor and keyboard. Here’s a suggestion. WHEN Obama wins the presidential election, you can take your racist ultra conservative but to Mexico, have a burrito and STFU.

Posted by: MixMstr | October 8, 2008, 8:18 am 8:18 am

Wendy:
I think it accurate to say that McCain does not think much of women. In addition to the derogatory terms he has used, he has also treated Palin like a delicate flower that cannot take care of herself in public. He shelters her like an over-protective parent.

Posted by: Bugg | October 8, 2008, 8:20 am 8:20 am

Advice for Sen. McCain:
Sen. Obama is not your enemy…the Economy is. Unless you can successfully tackle the Economy, Americans will vote anyone, even William Ayres, if they think him to be more capable of tackling this Economic nightmare that threatens America and the World.

Posted by: Chukwura | October 8, 2008, 8:23 am 8:23 am

This wasn’t a debate – it was Tom Brokaw’s Q & A! A debate should be when the two candidates stand toe to toe and ask each other questions, giving each other two minutes to respond, and two minutes to state their position.
We don’t need “liberal news media moderators”. Since when are “they” the unbiased authority? A perfect example of that was just yesterday! Only Fox News reported the raid on ACORN headquarters, an Organization Obama headed up, for voter fraud, a big scandal that might change the election!
CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, DID NOT REPORT THIS, IT WAS KEPT FROM US BEFORE THIS DEBATE!!! The main media outlets kept this under wraps to protect their “boy”. If anyone had any doubts before about the media’s role to engineer this election towards Obama, this action alone should be enough to convince them that the main stream media is not unbiased and are only gossips of the worst kind. McCain won! Obama, after this voter fraud investigation, will be toast!

Posted by: IrishKay | October 8, 2008, 8:24 am 8:24 am

That was clearly a racist remark. It also goes to prove that anyone supporting McCain is a racist.

Posted by: Jared | October 8, 2008, 8:25 am 8:25 am

Im still wondering what he meant when he told the young adult that he might not have known what Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac was before this mortgage crisis. What did that mean exactly?… I wasn’t up in arms over this… I remember the first debate when he couldn’t even look Obama in the eyes! He bairly did last night. The media is making a huge deal over something trivial. What about the issues what about the lies that were said last night?

Posted by: Becky | October 8, 2008, 8:26 am 8:26 am

The devastating blow came when Obama threw the “bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, Iran” quote right in McCain”s face!!! I jumped out of my seat! It was so funny to see Johnny shrink in size to about 3 feet tall.
I felt I was being talked to by my stubborn old grandfather every time McCain spoke. I”m in my 40”s and I cannot relate.
“That one” won the debate

Posted by: Jacob | October 8, 2008, 8:26 am 8:26 am

In the last debate Senator McCain wouldn’t even look at Senator Obama when he spoke to him; last night he called Senator Obama “that one”!?!
That behavior and statement are very telling of the person’s character and/or lack thereof.
Senator McCain you are a great American hero however you are not a very self-aware man. As an independent voter trying to make up my mind I shall wait for the third debate to make up my mind but from what I have seen so far, I fear for our great country’s future if voters don’t carefully and thougtfully examine not only the candidates’ campaign rhetoric but their interpersonal behavior as well.

Posted by: Betty Ava | October 8, 2008, 8:28 am 8:28 am

Enlighten me how any one made in the image of GOD, and by GOD, is considered less than human by another similarly and equally made man.
Obama is equally a Senator and equally deserves the respect expected for McCain.

Posted by: America08 | October 8, 2008, 8:29 am 8:29 am

Bennie,
Why is it Obama supporters feel the need to lie? Your comparisons are flat out lies and mischaracterizations of both plans.
Patel,
Most of us Americans don’t really care what the rest of the world thinks. We’ll elect our own leaders. Thanks.

Posted by: Jon | October 8, 2008, 8:29 am 8:29 am

IrishKay:
This is precisely the form of debate that McCain has been calling for. If you don’t like it, complain to him.

Posted by: Bugg | October 8, 2008, 8:29 am 8:29 am

I’ve gotta hand it to democrats in this election, they really do have the upper hand. Because they can say all the crap they want about McCain, but if he says anything, and I mean ANYTHING about Obama, it’s racist. What about the pig-in-lipstick thing? That’s not sexist? Of course not, Obama doesn’t do anything wrong! How silly to even suggest it! I think this is ridiculous. I would be all for a black person being President in a FAIR election. But these silly little things they claim to be racist are what’s keeping this from being fair.

Posted by: Madi | October 8, 2008, 8:29 am 8:29 am

Look whos pulling out the race card.If it was Hillary up there that McCain said that one he would be sexist.To say that someone who supports McCain is racisist is childish.

Posted by: reddog0216 | October 8, 2008, 8:30 am 8:30 am

mccain thinks he is the master race—–lets see who thought that before—starting to sound like adolph

Posted by: rodney | October 8, 2008, 8:32 am 8:32 am

Please stop being so ridiculous.This is 2008 not 1958

Posted by: reddog0216 | October 8, 2008, 8:35 am 8:35 am

I think he was on the verge of making a racial epithet, tried to catch himself in the nick of time, and wound up making another instead. No way I’ll vote for this man now, and I am a Republican.

Posted by: CWA | October 8, 2008, 8:35 am 8:35 am

When my sisters and I get together, we always seem to get on the topic of our kids. I have two. One is just as mild and easy going as she can be the other one is a “wild child”. While looking at pictures one day I was talking about them lovingly (my beloved children)and referred to my “wild child” as “now That One is a whole different story”.
Come on people—move past it. We are all human. No one can say what Senator McCain meant.

Posted by: jwg | October 8, 2008, 8:36 am 8:36 am

I’m not sure what McCain meant (if anything) by the comment, but what really surprises me is the tone he and Gov Palin have taken. It’s almost like they’re treating the American people as idiots. I’m mean, what’s with “that one”, “Joe six-pack”, etc.

Posted by: jmengate | October 8, 2008, 8:37 am 8:37 am

You can put lipstick on “That One” and it’s still just Barack Obama

Posted by: Locke | October 8, 2008, 8:38 am 8:38 am

The worst part of the debate: TOM BROKAW. What a horrible moderator! First, he wouldn’t let either of the candidates expand on their answers because of the rules, and then he called the rules “loose” when he wanted to be a blowhard. He has obviously spent too much of his time in retirement being a talking head because he sounded like the typical talking head who likes to hear his own voice. Stay in the background, Brokaw. You’ve lost your edge. Brokaw really hammered home how much we miss Tim Russert.

Posted by: Working in Texas | October 8, 2008, 8:38 am 8:38 am

Obama wants to put Americans back to work with building bridges and building roads. Just how many Americans can operate heavy construction equipment? How many Americans want a pick and shovel job?
May be that Obama wants to bring back the WPA, CCC and use Workfare. That would be a great way for people to pay for the national healthcare program. People that do not want to work receive no benefits. The WPA, CCC and Workfare seems great to me, Obama.
For those that do not know about WPA, CCC and Workfare:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Works_Progress_Administration
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_Conservation_Corps
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workfare
What do you say? You never realized that could be part of the great plan. Surprise! Surprise!
When you want government to do for you, the government has the opportunity to give you something you may not like. Moreover, I hear Obama mention Democrat Franklin D. Roosevelt. FDR won a revolution in constitutional law and thereafter the Government could legally regulate the economy. In all history, the Democrats must regulate the economy and the banks. In ever case, regulation has caused a financial crisis. Woodrow Wilson (Banks), FDR (Economy), Jimmy Carter (Banks) and Bill Clinton (Banks).
I will not be seeing you all at camp because I only give to the government.
Vote for Obama’s policies and choose your work program

Posted by: Truth | October 8, 2008, 8:39 am 8:39 am

between mccain and palin–they are starting to look like the kkk hate mongers—–it wont work today dummies.

Posted by: rodney | October 8, 2008, 8:39 am 8:39 am

I was horrified to hear McCain refer to Obama as, “That one.” Regardless of how he meant it, it sounded disrespectful beyond belief, and I thought bordered (if not crossed the line) on racist. Shame, shame, shame on him.
It must be a personal characteristic of McCain’s not to be able to look his opponent in the eye. He didn’t do it in the first debat nor in the second, not even when shaking hands. Another disrespect. That’s the first thing we teach our children about shaking hands – a firm grip and look directly at the person! Shame on him yet again.

Posted by: Lisa | October 8, 2008, 8:40 am 8:40 am

I agree it was disrespectful but don’t know that it was racist. I think it’s just normal McCain – his internal strategy is to dislike, disrespect and disdain his enemy so all his essence goes to beating him.
That said, Obama won the debate and McCain just sounded like a politician saying “my friends” over and over and over.
Obama wins on merit, we don’t need for McCain to be anything but himself to win.

Posted by: Mike | October 8, 2008, 8:41 am 8:41 am

Madi,
McCain is also the one that started the pig & lipstick thing when he went after Hillary.
But both Obama and McCain were talking about issues, not people, when they brought up the pig & lipstick quotes.
I also see nothing racial about “that one”. It probably has to do with McCain’s forgetfulness.

Posted by: Bugg | October 8, 2008, 8:41 am 8:41 am

I DONT KNOW IF IT WAS DELIBERATE BUT THAT TELLS ALOT ABOUT MCCAIN, MCCAIN AND PALIN HAS BEEN DANCING AROUND HOW TO DEFINE OBAMA AND WE ARE WATCHING, WE WANT PALIN TO CALL HIM WHAT SHE THINK HE IS, ” BLACK”, MCCAIN WAS CLOSE TO IT AND I THINK IT IS VERY DISRESPECTFUL FOR HIM TO REFER A FELLOW SENATOR AS ” THAT ONE”.

Posted by: Prince Nduaguibe | October 8, 2008, 8:42 am 8:42 am

how stupid? … grasp onto something with MEANING to discuss … if you resort to talking about this, you have a little mind …

Posted by: yve2008 | October 8, 2008, 8:43 am 8:43 am

I’ve lived in North Little Rock, Arkansas my entire life, and have never heard white people refer to black people as “that one” in derogatory terms. Democrats are just making stuff up to make McCain seem racist. It worked against Hillary, and they figure it will work against McCain. I’ve been a Democrat all my life, but I’m growing sick of this particular tactic. I’m all for winning against the Republicans, but we are hurting ourselves in the long-term with this strategy. More than anything, we are hurting black people. People are going to grow tired of hearing, “racist, racist, racist,” and they are going to stop listening eventually. It’s like the boy who cried wolf. Then when a black person really is the victim of racism, we’ll be less likely to listen objectively. The Obama campaign has played the race card over and over in this campaign, and the people who will ultimately be hurt by this are black people themselves, who often ARE victimized by racism.

Posted by: Libby Reynolds, D-Ark. | October 8, 2008, 8:43 am 8:43 am

Bennie, Bennie, Bennie: “Obama: a Harvard Law school graduate, magna cum laude, and a constitutional law expert.” That’s what we call Bravo Sierra. Obama DID NOT graduate Magna Cum Laude. He just graduate Cum Loudy. He IS NOT a Constitutional Law expert, his concentration was in Constitutional Law and he is a Visiting Lecturer in Constitutional Law…but hasn’t done it awhile. Get your Obama-lama-ding-dong facts straight. Final note: You CANNOT graduate from college, especially a Military Academy, with a “D-” average. Did you graduate from college? Thought not

Posted by: Lee | October 8, 2008, 8:45 am 8:45 am

THE VERY NEXT COMMERCIAL ENDORSED BY OBAMA SHOULD END WITH: ‘I’m “That One” and I approve this message

Posted by: stoplying08 | October 8, 2008, 8:45 am 8:45 am

McCain is an old man,he forgot Obama’s name

Posted by: timbo | October 8, 2008, 8:45 am 8:45 am

I am as anti-Republican, anti-McCain\Palin as anybody, however, I would not make much out of McCain’s comment. I don’t McCain used it to intentionally disrespect Obama. However, it did fit in with the overall theme of the night was that McCain simply looked old and was speaking old ideas of the world and the country. He also seems perturbed about some references Obama made to McCain’s record and comments (like the bomb, bomb, Iran song)….He certainly did not look presidential. The comment was just one element of that.

Posted by: indy_voter | October 8, 2008, 8:46 am 8:46 am

i guarantee you that mccain and palin have some choice names for obama——they fit the profile—-just listen to hate mongering palin—

Posted by: rodney | October 8, 2008, 8:46 am 8:46 am

Oh this is clearly a racist remark. Here in the United States of the Offended we must march!!

Posted by: Lee | October 8, 2008, 8:47 am 8:47 am

It was rude, but it was better than the garbage going on at Palin rallies where they are yelling kill him and being nasty to reporters. What is wrong with the GOP? The party of Lincoln has strayed far from the ideals it started with.

Posted by: Catherine | October 8, 2008, 8:47 am 8:47 am

Would somebody please get past how demeaning “that one” either is or isn’t and fact-check the substance of McCain’s claim?
What were the details of the bill and is there anything in the record showing why each of the candidates voted on it as they did?

Posted by: Fran | October 8, 2008, 8:47 am 8:47 am

The closer this gets to the election the more stupid people become. This whole issue is laughable. Lets paint horns on McCain, we can call him the devil. Someone on this post said anyone who votes for McCain is racist? OMG, I’m holding my sides. We’ve had eight years of an idiot in office and you want to replace him with someone who has not authored one piece of legislation. Well, you guys picked Bush, now youre gonna pick Obama. You deserve what you get.

Posted by: Glenda | October 8, 2008, 8:48 am 8:48 am

I thought McCain’s repetition of “my friends” sounded artificial, sometimes angry and always condescending.

Posted by: Lisa | October 8, 2008, 8:49 am 8:49 am

Heck I wouldn’t have said “that one” I would have said “that idiot”. But I am just one of the people holds onto my guns and works hard for my money in the middle of the country.. I don’t care what color either one of them are… Obama is a politician (scoundrel) and a liberal who will say anything including attempting to play the race card (again) to get elected.. When are people going to look past color and see what these to people are really saying about their country and it’s people. We should all be ashamed of ourselves for putting two dolts at the top.
MCain should have gone after him harder.
I would have loved to see him squirm a little bit.

Posted by: bill4b | October 8, 2008, 8:49 am 8:49 am

If people think McCain calling Barack Obama “that one” is racist/demeaning, he only has himself to blame.
John McCain is the one who lacks the self control to treat Barack Obama in a consistently respectful manner. His disdain for Obama is widely known, he refused to look at Obama in the last debate, was cold to Obama on the Senate floor, even though Obama made the effort to be professional, and if anyone stuck around during the last few minutes after the end of last night’s debate, they saw McCain refuse a friendly handshake from Obama.
It’s so clear he does NOT respect Obama.

Posted by: taizhu | October 8, 2008, 8:49 am 8:49 am

This is the kind of debate we will be having for 4 years if Obama is elected. Every slight or imagined slight will become RACIST.
Get over yourselves – we have bigger fish to fry.
Study the issues & their voting records, but don’t select a candidate because he is or isn’t black.

Posted by: Cheri | October 8, 2008, 8:50 am 8:50 am

Perhaps McCain doesn’t want to use his name “Barack Hussien Obama” because they complain about that too. They are control freaks. Maybe McCain didn’t get the whinner’s latest call memo of the acceptable terms to call Obama. I vote for deceptive, manipulative whinners! Is that better?

Posted by: ubu1991 | October 8, 2008, 8:50 am 8:50 am

Obama leads in states with 248 Electoral College votes while McCain is ahead in states with 163 Electoral College votes. When “leaners” are included, it’s Obama 300, McCain 174.

Posted by: Jeff | October 8, 2008, 8:50 am 8:50 am

That one – big deal – get over it guys. Economy is tanking and all you remember is “that one”.
A choice between one who is fumbling for words/choice of treasury leader and another who says “that one”. Go with the one who is not afraid to take decisions that might anger the party bosses and you will have real change. BTW – I am not voting in this election (not eligible) but do care about consequences.

Posted by: Gumbo | October 8, 2008, 8:51 am 8:51 am

What do you expect? McCain has no class. You can always feel the boiling going inside him whenever he’s debating. He’s trying to control himself but he doesn’t succeed, so of course he’s going to have some “slip-ups” here and there…
No class… McCain has no class at all.

Posted by: JustifiedNO | October 8, 2008, 8:51 am 8:51 am

Most likely racist but at the very least disrespectful. It shows McCain is getting very frustrated at not being able to whip (figuratively) his opponent. It makes one worry what he’ll do when faced with Iran, Korea and Russia. One network runs a graph at the bottom of the screen showing viewers reactions. You’d think some McCain advisors would watch and tell him the negative attack tactic always goes against him. He’s got nothing to offer but attacks. And now he’s hoping to buy votes with this mortgage buy-out. It’s easy to try to trick people with that after the bill has been done. Where was that idea when he was in DC? The republican party would never have gone for it. They wanted the big business tax breaks and finally got them in the second version. To heck with the home owner. Where does the Constitution guarantee more to businesses than citizens? Why are so many laws in their favor although they aren’t mentioned a single time in our most important founding documents?!

Posted by: John Tate | October 8, 2008, 8:51 am 8:51 am

I’m a 54 year old white guy and I grew up around a lot of racism.
The comment was racist.
McCain/Palin are desperate because they know that Obama/Biden is going to win this election in a democrat landslide.

Posted by: David | October 8, 2008, 8:51 am 8:51 am

I thought that McCain’s true feelings about Obama came out. The first debate he couldn’t even make eye contact. This debate he referred to him so disrepectfully, as “that one” and during the same debate, he told an Afircan American questioner, “you probably have never heard of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac before last week”, inferring the man couldn’t possible own a home? I’d like to think this election isn’t about race, but I wonder. Especially since McCain and Palin seem to be inciting crowds with words like “terrorist”, when speaking about Obama.

Posted by: Intelligent voter | October 8, 2008, 8:53 am 8:53 am

Well, McCain wanted a new topic for people to talk about. I don’t think he wanted it to be about his disrepect for Obama.
“Be careful what you wish for” McCain.
McCain solidified his “grumpy old man” image last night with those words. He should have followed it up with “GET OFF MY LAWN!!!”

Posted by: Greg in MN | October 8, 2008, 8:53 am 8:53 am

Lee:
Yes, Obama did graduate from Harvard magna cum laude. He also taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School for twelve years. That might not make him the leading authority, but it does make him something of an expert in Constitutional Law.

Posted by: Bugg | October 8, 2008, 8:53 am 8:53 am

“I am here to tell you, Iowa, he is the one. He is the one!”
December 9, 2007
Oprah Calls Obama “The One”
Oprah coined the term “The One”

Posted by: geevill | October 8, 2008, 8:54 am 8:54 am

This is Reagan politics. Muddle the race and get as negative as possible so that undecided voters won’t vote.
I think it´s the first time in the history of the US that one candidate refers to the other as “that one”. Absolutely pathetic. How low can you go Mr McCain?
Also, I think folks in the South did pick up the racist connotation of “that one”.

Posted by: Marcos | October 8, 2008, 8:54 am 8:54 am

I was also startled when McCain called Senator Obama “that one”, but even more for how he started writing on a pad as soon as he came into the stage. Was he afraid of forgetting something? And when asked to rank three issues, **he wrote them down**. So maybe he just didn’t remember Obama’s name… just one more senior moment. By the way, some very insulting posts by people of all sides in these comments is distressing and sad. Let’s recover our civility so we can move ahead as a nation.

Posted by: Randolph | October 8, 2008, 8:54 am 8:54 am

mccain is trying to hide what he thinks and at times slips—palin seems to be well versed with the kkk—-isnt joe six pack the guy running around with the sheet on — and pointed pillowcase on his head—the hate mongering is coming from somewhere and she is relentless—-and smiles when someone says kill him——these are two very sick individuals

Posted by: rodney | October 8, 2008, 8:56 am 8:56 am

Well, “that one” is going to win the election next month!
Obama ’08

Posted by: Atheist 1 | October 8, 2008, 8:56 am 8:56 am

I think when McCain was referring to That One, he was making fun of the Obama’s “Chosen One Status”. Obama might win, but he will still not get any respect from people who question his troublesome associations. This is sad that we as a country pay more attention to Rhetoric over Substance.

Posted by: Rhetoric_Over_Substance | October 8, 2008, 8:56 am 8:56 am

China has liscensed Johanna Solar Technology to build a plant there. Some of the newest and best technology out of Germany! They are ahead of us.
#293 CTKEY on 10.07.08 at 9:52 pm Did he go to Harvard and Columbia? He can’t speak ! It’s amazing…He’s a lawyer and has trouble making a point.
____________________________Please tell
THAT ONE all about it, he is so stupid!

Posted by: HP Boston | October 8, 2008, 8:56 am 8:56 am

I was slightly offended when McCain assumed the young black man who asked the question about the bailout might not know anything about Freddie or Fannie Mac. Most people I know are keeping up with what’s going on in the US and abroad.

Posted by: Sandra | October 8, 2008, 8:56 am 8:56 am

“but it does make him something of an expert in Constitutional Law.”
Obama the one thought the DC gun ban was constitutional. That makes him clueless about constitutional law.
Theone is racist? We always thought Oprah was racist.

Posted by: geevill | October 8, 2008, 8:57 am 8:57 am

In all honesty, while I think a McCain – Palin administration would be the worst outcome, I think this attack on McCain is off-base.
It looks to me like McCain had a long pause in the original statement and “That One” refers to the question he posed.
This is what he meant I think:
“You know who voted for it? You might never know [guess] that one,” said McCain, gesticulating towards Obama. “You know who voted against it? Me.”
That is really a non-issue.

Posted by: Jeff | October 8, 2008, 8:57 am 8:57 am

JOHN McCAIN IS DEFINITELY A RACIST—I WANDER IF JOHN McCAIN IS SECRETELY A MEMBER OF THE KKK.

Posted by: HOOTU | October 8, 2008, 8:58 am 8:58 am

McCreepy is a disgrace!

Posted by: karen miller | October 8, 2008, 8:58 am 8:58 am

Again we’ve seen the condescending, rattling presence of John McCain, trapped in a “I know everything since I’ve run for President a dozen times” disrespectful demeanor. And how could anyone miss the single most OVER USED WORD (or phrase) in the whole debate…”my friends!” Used OVER AND OVER, and on occasion used several or more times in one run-on sentence. I just kept thinking someone would jump up, pull their wig or toupee off and run out of the audience in screams if McCain said it JUST ONE MORE TIME. Come on, once you have used “my friends” in primary debates as a prelude to a personal attack on an opponent, its over use becomes insulting, definetely not endearing, and leaves a bad taste in anyone’s mouth that isn’t deaf or void of intelligence! Come on McCain, give it a rest…perhaps better, give us a rest!

Posted by: TRUTHradar | October 8, 2008, 8:59 am 8:59 am

Hmmmm… looks like the media has caught onto the “that one” phrase and is milking it for all its worth. It DOES point out that McCain is barely in control of himself and is inherently rude. Racist? Guess it depends on what the meaning of “that one” is or is not. Rude? You betcha.
As for Republican supporters–why so defensive? Now it’s your turn to put lipstick on the pig–and this time, we know McCain WAS speaking and talking about Obama (as opposed to Obama’s comments that were simply attributed to Palin by McCain).

Posted by: stoplying08 | October 8, 2008, 9:00 am 9:00 am

I am African american. I didnt feel anything racial was mention by “that one”.
I am sure McCain, would have say the same thing if white guy was there. Our country is facing one of its greatest economic peril, we are discussing this.wow

Posted by: Charles T | October 8, 2008, 9:00 am 9:00 am

Sen. McCain and Sarah Palin are feeding into the worst that America has to offer…
Sen. McCain promotes this tone and attitude of hatred and disrespect… in a townhall meeting someone called Sen. Clinton a “B”… Sen. McCain just smiled and didn’t confront the offensive comment…
… Are you truly listening, Do you care? Or do you support it?
Increasingly, the level of racial hatred is being aired into the public arena… At McCain and Palin rallies, people in the audience are yelling “terrorist” and “Kill Him”… referring to Sen. Obama. McCain, and Palin just smile and ignore the racial hatred. They say nothing… just let the poison rain in America… Is this the America McCain/Palin want? It must be… They provide the gasoline… racial hatred lights the match…
“That One”…
how dehumanizating…
The mindset of racism is being fed by McCain and Palin…

Posted by: Bruce | October 8, 2008, 9:00 am 9:00 am

I agree, Randolph. This is a discussion, not a fist-fight. We owe it to ourselves to respect each other even if we don’t all agree.
As for those critics of the discussion of “that one”, well for goodness sake, that’s the topic of the blog.
Of course there are MANY more important issues. But McCain’s anger and disrespect does not bode well for his handling of global politics.

Posted by: Lisa | October 8, 2008, 9:00 am 9:00 am

Look folks, the comment is not racist.
Burton did not say it was in his statement. Republicans are inferring from his remarks. The statement was a thoughtless throw-away line from McCain. It is disrespectful of an opponent’s position, particularly an opponent who is an elected US Senator.
So, drop all the racist references. It is unseemly for both parties. It was disrespectful (though I don’t think intentional) and would have been if he was referring to Biden and not Obama. In the long run the statement is trivial…but it does re-inforce my belief of what McCain’s true temperment and judgement is all about….maverick, no. Loose canon, yes.
And I don’t think the comments pointing out it is dis-respectful are unreasonable

Posted by: indy_voter | October 8, 2008, 9:00 am 9:00 am

Posted by: geevill | October 8, 2008, 9:01 am 9:01 am

mccain and palin are responsible for the hate mongering —and there are absolutely no excuses—we dont want them in pa.and the polls show it

Posted by: rodney | October 8, 2008, 9:02 am 9:02 am

I see a pattern here with the posts. The McCain supporters are on the attack, saying it has nothing to do with anything, while Obama supporters say it have to do with everything.
Guess what? The Obama supporters are right. Town-hall debates not only give the people a chance to voice their questions, it also gives them a view on the personality of each candidate. Body language and how each speak says a lot about personality.
McCain appeared nervous and jittery as he walks all over the place when Obama speaks, while Obama was calm and cool as he sits still while McCain speaks. This shows a lot about how each conducts himself.
So that line might not mean anything per se to some, but it does give a strong hint to McCain’s personality and how he views Obama. It was rude and snide even if the line has no racial connections.
McCain is loosing his cool, and it appears his supporters are as well.

Posted by: GWP | October 8, 2008, 9:03 am 9:03 am

McCain behaves like an old curmudgeon. Calling Obama “that one”, demonstrated a lack of respect towards a fellow U.S. Senator. McCain lacks the temperament necessary to lead this great nation.

Posted by: Carlyle | October 8, 2008, 9:03 am 9:03 am

Awwww, McCain didn’t mean anything by saying “That One”. He’s a blithering old idiot, and should be allowed to have senile moments.

Posted by: Chuck | October 8, 2008, 9:03 am 9:03 am

The One and “that one” are 2 totally different terms.

Posted by: JuJuBe | October 8, 2008, 9:05 am 9:05 am

One graduated magna cum laude from Harvard law school, and the other finished in the bottom 1% of his class at the academy.
Tough choice.

Posted by: Bugg | October 8, 2008, 9:06 am 9:06 am

I’d be surprised if McCain meant his comment to be racist or demeaning – although I can most definetly see how it can be construed that way. McCain just doesn’t THINK. He shoots from the hip everytime and more times than not his abrasive, gruff, rude manner gets him into trouble. He is a nightmare diplomatically and America does not need another anti-diplomat in office. He comes off as a mean old attack dog with little intellect. His only example of bipartisanship is his relationship with Joe Leiberman. His comments and voting recond about women and his selection of Sarah Palin – who supports denying young teenage girls the right to an abortion in the cases of incestual rape as per her comments to Couric – prove he will do nothing to support women in office. He stated he knows nothing about the economy and proved it with his horrific ideas regarding a measley $5000 health care tax break while taxing health benefits, a $300 BILLION bail out for bad mortgages, freezing spending, privatizing social security (in THIS market!?!) and continuing the disasterous trickle down policies by giving the richest companies huge tax breaks. “That one” was a nasty, thoughtless comment but everything about McCain is appalling.

Posted by: allie | October 8, 2008, 9:07 am 9:07 am

Everything points to an Obama victory. And two of his biggest weapons in this campaign, money and organization, have not even been fully utilized yet. Axelrod has a veritable army out there. First they worked on voter registration. On Nov. 4 the effort will be getting out the vote. It is the Chicago way. It got JFK elected, it will get Obama elected: ORGANIZATION

Posted by: William J. LePetomaine | October 8, 2008, 9:07 am 9:07 am

‘The One’? Take a Number, Sen. Obama
By David Montgomery
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, July 31, 2008

Posted by: geevill | October 8, 2008, 9:07 am 9:07 am

What have Obama done to deserve respect (both politically and as a man). Associate himself with bunch of hate mangers, who hate America, whites and Jews? Radicalization of America has began. Congratulations.

Posted by: Alexandra | October 8, 2008, 9:07 am 9:07 am

mccain (maverick) is that what you call someone hiding behind a mask —-one that falls off ocasionally—and hate maogering palin is as he stated–(HIS SOULMATE—guess that makes her the true mccain—now that was not difficult to understand,he sure had to find a dumb one to do his dirty work.

Posted by: rodney | October 8, 2008, 9:10 am 9:10 am

The hypocritical mainstream media makes me sick. If Obama had been disrespectful to McCain, it would be front-page news:
“OBAMA’S FIRST MAJOR GAFFE IN THE RACE FOR THE WHITE HOUSE!”
But since McCain said it, then it’s “debatable” what he actually meant. And let’s not forget Sarah Palin’s attacks on Obama these last few days—-NOW she speaks to the press, just not on the issues.

Posted by: princess9681 | October 8, 2008, 9:12 am 9:12 am

McCain is very insulting and he his not fit to be in the White House Period. He needs to stop with the insults. Palin can continue because the world knows she is clueless. However, I would love to see her in an interview again. We need to laugh… She can’t answer questions and she can’t attack anyone with all the dirt in her closet.

Posted by: Sara | October 8, 2008, 9:12 am 9:12 am

I agree that Obama will win because he is the most effective person as it relates to Organizing the troops and running on the Platform of Change. I guess he learned it from Hitler and Communists, that it is very effective. I agree, it is effective, because America stopped paying attention to character.

Posted by: Socialist_States_of_America | October 8, 2008, 9:12 am 9:12 am

“That One” is a common reference to the person who is basically brainless in decision making ability. “That One” would be Obama.

Posted by: Bill | October 8, 2008, 9:12 am 9:12 am

Shows McCain grumpy temperment. Not a good look for someone who’ll have access to the button.

Posted by: frankiestage | October 8, 2008, 9:12 am 9:12 am

If McCain “knows how to do it” in regards to catching or killing Bin Laden, winning the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, containing Iran’s nukes …then he has a duty to tell the President and tell the Department of Defense. If he knows “how to do it”, but doesn’t tell us – withholds the information – then he is withholding critical information pertinent to our national security – that would be treasonous.

Posted by: Bo Toxic | October 8, 2008, 9:13 am 9:13 am

How people act is in concert with their character, their ability and the kind of person they are. Senator McCain talked down to people — telling one audience member “you probably never heard of Freddie Mac or Fannie Mae” like he was two! Refusing to look at Senator Obama, refusing to address him by name. But did you see at the end when Senator Obama approached Senator McCain hand out to shake, Senator McCain looked away then walked away! That is completely inexcusable and speak volumes of Senator McCain’s character. He has none — he has no respect for people. Shame on Senator McCain and the lack of manners he exhibits. But what most didn’t see unless they were watching C-Span — debate over but for a full 40 minutes at least they continued broadcasting Senator Obama and Michelle Obama talking to the audience, shaking their hands, listening to them, posing for pictures with them. Senator McCain and Cindy McCain — long gone. Obviously they had more important things to do than spend time with the very people they are looking at for support! Bottom line people is that the actions of Senator McCain do indicating his character and the type of person he is. Obviously he is a man who doesn’t care about the very people he seeks to represent!

Posted by: Rae | October 8, 2008, 9:13 am 9:13 am

McCain has condescended to Obama on multiple occasions saying “Obama just doesn’t get it” and “Obama just doesn’t understand”. I know when I am being condescended to and I don’t like it and neither does anyone else. It’s like your father or grandfather talking down to you as a child. It puts one in the corner requiring protest and rebuttle to regain perceived stature. The “That one” statement is really atrocious. It shows that John cannot look Obama in the eye. John’s Straight Talk express is careening off the rails becoming personal. I admire the man’s service but I don’t think he is the person we need in office the next 4 years.

Posted by: Bob | October 8, 2008, 9:14 am 9:14 am

“That one.” I don’t really think it was meant to be racist. Just the foolish rambling of an old man who is losing his grip on the situation.

Posted by: Lou | October 8, 2008, 9:15 am 9:15 am

“That one.” I don’t really think it was meant to be racist. Just the foolish rambling of an old man who is losing his grip on the situation.

Posted by: Lou | October 8, 2008, 9:15 am 9:15 am

I think Obama needs some basic science education. We don’t need to “safely store nuclear energy”. That makes no sense. We used to store nuclear waste from spent fuel rods. Nuclear power plants now use re-processed fuel that does not need storage. Number two, he discussed how government employees “invented the computer for communication”. Actually it was Claude Shannon and Bell Labs that invented the digital circuit design theory and switching technology as well as the transistor responsible for the modern computer. It was a government lab that created the Internet, or was that Al Gore?

Posted by: sensible001 | October 8, 2008, 9:16 am 9:16 am

i could not come up with a name for mccain —but he is sounding like adolph.

Posted by: rodney | October 8, 2008, 9:16 am 9:16 am

McCain = EPIC FAIL!

Posted by: Obama = WIN | October 8, 2008, 9:17 am 9:17 am

Why isn’t anyone picking up on the fact McCain refused to shake Obama’s hand. What type of character did that show? This is complete disrespect. Is this the kind of person we want in office? How will he represent us? Under pressure, McCain now has demonstrated he doesn’t control his temper, or his emotions and is unable to multi task or prioritize issues! We cannot trust him. When meeting with foreign Leaders, will he have a group of people to interpret what his actions and words meant? Way too dangerous of a risk.
SK-from MN

Posted by: Sandy | October 8, 2008, 9:17 am 9:17 am

McSame and Palin have for the last week showed there racist and hate. Them two are not good for this country and will put this country back many years. McSame and Palin both is trying very hard to make this race a racist race and try to sperate the American people. Please All American people don’t let this happen. We as a nation need to be unioned.

Posted by: gl | October 8, 2008, 9:18 am 9:18 am

McCain has always been disrespectful-ask his old Navy “cronies”.

Posted by: 24dinner | October 8, 2008, 9:19 am 9:19 am

mccain and the hate monger palin —just what we need when our country is in dire trouble
goodbye

Posted by: rodney | October 8, 2008, 9:19 am 9:19 am

Socialist_States_of_America – your a moron. Take your stuff to the Faux news website message boards and you and your cronies can stroke eachother….’s hair

Posted by: Tim | October 8, 2008, 9:19 am 9:19 am

“That one.” Geezer talk: he probably couldn’t remember Obama’s name. McCain looks and sounds like what he is–an old man. He needs to retire.

Posted by: Achshav | October 8, 2008, 9:19 am 9:19 am

Whether racist or not, it was extremely disrespectful. Even McCain’s camp said they wished he hadn’t said it. I think it just showed more that McCain has no respect for Obama. What if Biden had pointed at Palin and said “who wanted the bridge to nowhere? That one.” I’m pretty sure the outrage over sexism would be rampant.

Posted by: Brianne | October 8, 2008, 9:19 am 9:19 am

Is funny how McCain’s camp is saying that the Obama folks are making something out of nothing. I recall last night in Fox News that the McCain camp was actually saying that it was “great” the way that McCain referred to Obama and that they were going to make a point of repeating it through the upcoming days.I guess it is something that they are proud of…

Posted by: Ruben | October 8, 2008, 9:21 am 9:21 am

If he would have referred to himself as THIS ONE, it woul dhave been fine, but he didn’t , he said that one and then “me”. Sooooooo…..showing some true colors there Johnny boy, that one is how you refer to an animal or possesion.

Posted by: Nik | October 8, 2008, 9:22 am 9:22 am

WOW HOW IDIOTIC IS THIS SUBJECT DURING THE FIRST OF THE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES SENATOR McCAIN WAS CALLED “JOHN” BY HIS CONTENDER AND SENATOR OBAMA WAS CALLED JUST THAT SENATOR OBAMA IT SEEMS OBAMA CAN DISH IT OUT BUT CAN’T TAKE IT! I AM SO SICK OF PEOPLE YELLING DISRESPECT WHEN A WHITE PERSON SAYS SOMETHING AND YET THEY GET AWAY WITH IT!

Posted by: 1nana23 | October 8, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am

WOW HOW IDIOTIC IS THIS SUBJECT DURING THE FIRST OF THE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES SENATOR McCAIN WAS CALLED “JOHN” BY HIS CONTENDER AND SENATOR OBAMA WAS CALLED JUST THAT SENATOR OBAMA IT SEEMS OBAMA CAN DISH IT OUT BUT CAN’T TAKE IT! I AM SO SICK OF PEOPLE YELLING DISRESPECT WHEN A WHITE PERSON SAYS SOMETHING AND YET THEY GET AWAY WITH IT!

Posted by: 1nana23 | October 8, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am

boo hoo obamabnots whining because McCain mocked “The ONE” as Orpah calls their cult leader (Have they forgotten “We are The Ones we have been waiting for”)

Posted by: geevill | October 8, 2008, 9:24 am 9:24 am

If he said “my friends” one more time, I was going to scream. He is not my friend, nor is he yours. I guess this was the new drinking game. If so – we’d all have been drunk off our butts!

Posted by: Carolyn | October 8, 2008, 9:24 am 9:24 am

You have to have thick skin. If they are going to be a bunch of wimps how in the world are going to handle real threats. That’s the problem Barack Obama is a sensitive Metro-sexual. That’s the fact of the matter. John McCain on the other is a proven decorated War hero. You gotta have ba11s.

Posted by: Angelo | October 8, 2008, 9:25 am 9:25 am

Insulting the opponent is the last thing a presidential candidate can do!!. Insulting Senator Obama (twice) without calling the name shows the character of Senator McCain. It’s very silly and childish.

Posted by: klm | October 8, 2008, 9:25 am 9:25 am

it’s ABSOLUTELY a racist code word for “that boy” or “that n*****”. why are some of you so naive? he’s catering to the racist republicans (very old white men and women) who did NOT grow up during integration and are not familiar with obama but scared of anyone non-white/methodist/middle class. and he’s catering to the rich who don’t want to have anyone non-white in their posh neighborhoods. and pointing at him is like ordering the slave to go do a chore. that’s EXACTLY what he’s doing. it’s very subtle. but everyone knows what it means. i saw obama bristle just slightly but he kept his cool because he is so much more educated, sophisticated, and elegant than mccain could every hope to be. mccain is possibly a sociopath.

Posted by: emmarose | October 8, 2008, 9:27 am 9:27 am

Unbelieveable! The media is not offended the American people are offended. McCain talks about being ‘bi-partisan’ nonstop. HOW can calling a fellow senator, “that one” be ‘reaching across the aisle’? McCain is arrogant, no for my vote.

Posted by: noroomforgray | October 8, 2008, 9:29 am 9:29 am

So if I am pointing out a person to somebody else and I say, “That one over there,” I’m being dismissive?
Guilty as charged, I guess. I always say that. Who knew?
I’ll be on the lookout now for people trying to be dismissive of others by using that phrase.

Posted by: mak | October 8, 2008, 9:29 am 9:29 am

McCain has no class, and if you’re going to call somebody a name, at least look at them…

Posted by: Cindy | October 8, 2008, 9:30 am 9:30 am

Oh come on! Get over it already. It was a mis-speak. McCain meant to say “the one”.

Posted by: katablog.com | October 8, 2008, 9:31 am 9:31 am

If they are going to have a problem with this, it is obvious, the entire Barack Obama campaign is a bunch of pu$$ie$. Sorry to say. All you Obama supporters have been calling McCain old, senile<-sp? Out of touch. Do you hear his campaign whinning? Grow up and let the bag drop.

Posted by: Angelo | October 8, 2008, 9:31 am 9:31 am

You guys are all idiots. It meant nothing except that Obama voted for a Bush Chenry bill and McCain did not. OPEN YOUR STUPID EYES and listen. Nit picking. Jackass Obama is going to win. The media wants it bad and stupid people are following suit. You get what you asked for.

Posted by: Linda | October 8, 2008, 9:31 am 9:31 am

Personally, I could care less about that comment. It’s just John McCain being John McCain. Call it, disrespectful, a senior moment or what you will but it is not important. Here’s the desparity between the Republicans and the rest of us. CNN, which although a little left of center, is the most objective major tv news agency we can rely on had Obama crushing him in all of their opinion polls except for one. According to a smattering of all three political affiliations, it wasn’t even close. If you went over to that sorry excuse of a news outlet called Faux News, they had McCain winning the debate 86%-12%. Are you kidding me? Stupid McCain supporters used to accuse me of drinking the Kool Aid because I was an Independent voting for Obama, but at least I’m not on my way to Jonestown (or Palintown). Now, It is Bill Ayers and Rev. wright will be next if Ayers doesn’t have the desired effect. This info has been public knowledge for awhile now. Why bring it up now when you had all of this time to do so? I see a sense of complete desperation in the McCain/Palin camp and it borders on the ridiculous. I hope people can see through this. McCain is desperate and he’ll throw everything but the kitchen sink to get back his footing in this race. Obama/Biden 08′

Posted by: Tim | October 8, 2008, 9:32 am 9:32 am

Even if Obama was white and Mccain called him “that one” it would still show how rude he is. He has no class and is not fit to be president.

Posted by: Sher | October 8, 2008, 9:33 am 9:33 am

McCain is coming unhinged. His campaign should have given him a lesson in manners, especially after the first debate. He continues to look haggard, irritated, nervous and unconfident. This man should bow out gracefully, but I don’t believe he knows what gracefully means and I don’t believe he could do it, even if he did know. He’s losing it, in more ways than one.

Posted by: geecee | October 8, 2008, 9:34 am 9:34 am

I don’t think McCain intended to be racist, although it certainly came across that way. It more reminded me of some ancient granny complaining about a naughty kid. “That one was into the cookie jar again.” In either case, McCain showed that he just doesn’t get it. I was so excited when these two men took the nominations. I thought we would finally have a campaign in which the candidates could disagree on issues without villifying each other. To badly paraphrase the Bible, what shall it profit McCain if he wins the White House but looses his soul?

Posted by: Kate | October 8, 2008, 9:35 am 9:35 am

“which pile of garbage shoud I take out first?” “that one”….Obama is a united states senator who represents US citizens. What would we do if a foriegn leader referred to a US senator as “that one”???? It felt VERY disrespectful. I caught it immediately and I didn’t like it one bit. McCain is trying to convince us he can be a world statesman and he can’t even be civil for a moderated debate. BAd form. Very bad form.

Posted by: Frank | October 8, 2008, 9:35 am 9:35 am

“McCain: Tax cuts for the wealthy and big corporations and none for those making less than $100,000 a year. (and yet he says he is for ‘main street’)
Obama: Tax cuts for the majority of working Americans, modest increases for those earning $200,000 or more a year (less than they were under Clintons tax plan)”
McCain’s tax cuts include more Americans than Obamas. Yes, that includes the wealthy. Of course, anytime a tax cut includes the wealthy, Stalinist collectivists want us to think they’re the only ones getting a tax cut.
Incidentally, Obama’s plan will not cut taxes for 95% of Americans. It’s a lie that doesn’t jib with the specifics of his plan.

Posted by: ggg | October 8, 2008, 9:35 am 9:35 am

PLEASE EXPLAIN HOW ONE WHITE MAN CAN CALL ANOTHER WHITE MAN SOMETHING RACIST? I HAVE ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WAS FUNNY THAT PEOPLE PICK THEIR RACE TO THERE BENIFIT! HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN HE IS HALF WHITE GREW UP AS A WHITE MAN BECAUSE HIS LAZY BLACK FATHER DID NOT CARE ABOUT HIM! YET HIS WHITE GRANDFATHER RAISED HIM THE MAN IS WHITE NOT BLACK SO GET OFF IT!

Posted by: 1nana23 | October 8, 2008, 9:37 am 9:37 am

Oh yeah, referring to McCain as an old fish and Palin as a pig was not racist because they were white.

Posted by: katablog.com | October 8, 2008, 9:37 am 9:37 am

I guess I have to say it again as the media gurus NEVER get this right either:
now, kiddies, repeat after me…..Obama iisnot Black….Obama isnot Afro-American…..Obama ianot White. HE IS BBI-RACIAL. There, kiddies, have we all learned something now? So, your damned comments suggesting THAT as a slur on Blacks doesn’t fit, now, does it.
I would suggest that you communicate your new-found information to Mr. Burton of the Obama campaign, who apparently liked the idea of playing the race card again. Now, how about THAT, kiddies?

Posted by: justj joey | October 8, 2008, 9:39 am 9:39 am

What McCain said last night I don’t think was racist. You want to see racist and downright crazy, check this out:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/7/16748/0770/384/623031
Obama/Biden 08′

Posted by: Tim | October 8, 2008, 9:39 am 9:39 am

I guess I have to say it again as the media gurus NEVER get this right either:
now, kiddies, repeat after me…..Obama iisnot Black….Obama isnot Afro-American…..Obama ianot White. HE IS BBI-RACIAL. There, kiddies, have we all learned something now? So, your damned comments suggesting THAT as a slur on Blacks doesn’t fit, now, does it.
I would suggest that you communicate your new-found information to Mr. Burton of the Obama campaign, who apparently liked the idea of playing the race card again. Now, how about THAT, kiddies?

Posted by: justj joey | October 8, 2008, 9:39 am 9:39 am

RL – Obama is not a muslim. But you are a moron.

Posted by: Independent Voter | October 8, 2008, 9:40 am 9:40 am

It wasn’t racist. It was incredibly rude. It’s how you refer to someone when you don’t think much of them and don’t want to show them any type of respect by calling them by their name or title. We’ve all done it before when you want people to know how you feel about someone without actually saying something mean spirited. You say “that one” or “her or him” and point to them with a smirk and rolling eyes.

Posted by: Justeace | October 8, 2008, 9:40 am 9:40 am

What I find most odd, is that McKain keeps saying “he knows how” to: find terrorists, how to win wars, etc. So why hasn’t he shared this knowledge with his good friend Bush. If he had thousands of Iraqi civilians and professional soldiers would still be alive.

Posted by: Charles | October 8, 2008, 9:40 am 9:40 am

Obama is the most effective demagogue who learned from Hitler and Communists that Organizing the troops and running on the Platform of Change can win the elections. It is working, because America stopped paying attention to character and ignores the fact that many of his pals (or atleast the ones that are responsible for his meteoric rise to power) hate American (or atleast hate whites and Jews).
Of course he does not want to talk about religion, is because how else can he explain why he changed his name from Barry to Barack Hussein. Atlest Mohhamed Ali was honest about his reasons. Congratulations, Radicalization of America has began.

Posted by: Radicalization_of_America | October 8, 2008, 9:40 am 9:40 am

Are you serious? Once again the dems are crying. Get over yourselves already. You all somehow have predictive powers that McCain is going to die soon and express it on a daily basis but you cry, moan and groan when he says “that one”.
Go buy a box of tissues, honestly!

Posted by: MiamiR | October 8, 2008, 9:41 am 9:41 am

Mommy, mommy, that old man over there called me a bad word.
Yeah right, he’s going to kill Osama bin Laden.

Posted by: Joe | October 8, 2008, 9:41 am 9:41 am

Obama is a stupid porch monkey!

Posted by: geevil | October 8, 2008, 9:41 am 9:41 am

This is stupid and anyone who thinks that the comment was racist is stupid. How about publishing a book with all the words and phrases that white people are allowed to say so as not to offend or “victimize” anyone else.

Posted by: Sick&Tired | October 8, 2008, 9:41 am 9:41 am

Well, that does it for me…after all these people up in arms over McCain’s “That One”…..I’m convinced now that Obama is not “THE ONE” we’ve been waiting for.
Enough said. Thanks.

Posted by: Bob | October 8, 2008, 9:41 am 9:41 am

McCain is angry, and he’s panicking.

Posted by: dattexas | October 8, 2008, 9:41 am 9:41 am

“I don’t think McCain intended to be racist, although it certainly came across that way”…nobody INTENDS to be racist, at least not in public, but i think McCain clearly is. He can’t even look at Obama. Ithink it blows his mind that this poor half black kid from a single mother on food stamps grows up, per his own hard work, to be a Columbia university graduate, a Harvard Graduate and was elected president of hte Harvard law review and then was a law professor for 12 years before being a state senator for 11. Obama is much smarter than McCain. McCain graduated fourth from last in his class, he has numerous diciplinary infractions, Mccain just never really did good at anything he’s done. NOtice how he says he authors b ills “bad news, it didn’t get voted for”. MCCain is very ineffective. He lost FIVE PLANES and would have NEVER been allowed to pilot on an aircraft carrier had his father not been admiral. McCain hates Obama. Obama is everything he’s not, goodlooking smart and ….black???? how can that be??? aren’t blacks supposed to be poor on welfare and not be able to speak proper english??? how doe s this black guy talk better than me???? Mccain has such a HUGE problem with Obama and yeah, I think it stems heavily on the fact that Obama is accomplished for his young age AND …he’s black!! It rocks McCain’s world, as it does alot of wingbats. A superiority complex is an ugly thing. It makes you act ugly.

Posted by: waitingon the depression | October 8, 2008, 9:41 am 9:41 am

McCain went down worser than Kimbo Slice, as the faker he really is.

Posted by: Bobbi | October 8, 2008, 9:41 am 9:41 am

At the very least it was extremely condescending and snide to refer to Obama as “that one”. If an old person is angry and doesn’t want to accord his adversary the respect of recognizing him properly, he might refer to him as “that one”. Extremely odd and disrespectful by McCain. He looked and sounded like an angry, desperate old man.

Posted by: hopesprings52 | October 8, 2008, 9:42 am 9:42 am

Is this a serious question? Of course it was meant to demean Obama. Not a question in my mind. It’s too bad McCain can’t hide his contempt a little better and treat Obama with the respect he deserves AND has earned. As someone who DOES respect and support Obama, it offends me when McCain is so dismissive. McCain’s attitude implies that anyone who supports Obama is as witless and stupid as he thinks Obama is. I have no words for Palin. She’s a piece of work is all I’ll say. Pitbull is right. Thankfully, I think most people see this ticket now for what they are.

Posted by: nancy miller | October 8, 2008, 9:42 am 9:42 am

II dont think Obama was bothered by it one bit. But it makes McCain look ugly, frustrated and disrespectful.

Posted by: Mary | October 8, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am

justj joey – does it make you feel better to talk down to people? You sound like McCain. I know if you called me a kiddie like that to my face you probably wouldn’t have one left but that’s besides the point. The point is that you are a moron. I’m not offended but you have no respect to realize that other’s could take that the wrong way. Grow up and get a life.

Posted by: Tim | October 8, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am

geevil — dude that’s just not right and you should apologize.

Posted by: Angelo | October 8, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am

What was that sign he made behind Obama’s back? Then looked at a audience member with this damn him look on his face. It looked as if he was making a “C” gesture.

Posted by: Bobbi | October 8, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am

Courtney Bryant …do not even try to make it a “black” only insult, as a Native American, my people have been called this and many other harsh words…such as “savage”. At least the white man had a purpose for blacks….he tried to erase us. But, I do agree, McCain is a racist…no different than Oprah, Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton.

Posted by: Topawonga | October 8, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am

Okay, folks — time to brush up on your basic English. The phrase “that one” in Senator McCain’s context of the moment clearly meant “that Senator.”
McCain’s question was:
“Which voted for ?”
Answer: “That one,” gesturing toward Senator Obama.
It was not rude or inappropriate. It was merely a simple form of English expression.

Posted by: Bill Krumpter | October 8, 2008, 9:47 am 9:47 am

I was pleased to hear McCain’s “that one” as that pretty much clinched it for him.
Arrogant, derogatory remark may have caused him this election.
It showed his true nature

Posted by: Mary | October 8, 2008, 9:47 am 9:47 am

Geevil..proven to be a true McCain supporter. When you have been beaten by a black man at your own game, the name calling happens.

Posted by: Bobbi | October 8, 2008, 9:48 am 9:48 am

If Valdimir PUtin ever referred to Bush, during a public meeting, as “that one” instead of “president bush’ the WINGBATS would go CRAZY! Clearly it was a very disrespectful distasteful thing to say. It made him look a bit like white trash, honestly. As when someone curses. When you curse at another, you don’t make them look bad, you make YOURSELF look bad. Whomever they are is whomever, but YOU are the one who acted so disrespectful and nasty.

Posted by: Matt | October 8, 2008, 9:48 am 9:48 am

When John McCain is disrespectful and contemptuous to his equal, who he is sharing that stage with, he is showing his disrespect and contempt for all Americans who do not share his views!
John mcCain appears to be a very small spirited man.

Posted by: Truth Matters | October 8, 2008, 9:48 am 9:48 am

I think that McCain felt he had to come into this carrying the same tone that he and Palin have been carrying for the past few days…without bringing the actual rhetoric into play. He knew that the majority of Americans would disapprove of his bringing up Obama’s supposed “dangerous” associations. I think he was trying to communicate that attitude…He has an obvious contempt, and why wouldn’t he? Obama is obliterating his confidence at this stage! He came out of his convention riding high after the Palin surprise, and though it carried on for a while and gave him reason to hope things would be going his way from then on out, he has seen her immediate draw fall flat on it’s face. He is feeling bitter and irate, he shows his distaste too readily. Do I think it was racist? I cannot see inside his soul, but I think it definately appeals to the people out there who he knows are indeed racist… It does him no good to appeal to those people, because unfortunately he already had them on his side from the beginning.
As I read through these comments, and I have seen this too many times before, I notice things like “the chosen one”…”the annointed…the messiah”.
I think it’s horribly direspectful and way off base. It makes my skin crawl. It never ceases to amaze me that the people who attempt to set themselves apart as good and christian constantly try to appeal to the bad side of human nature. Keep your archaic fear tactics to yourselves…get over it.

Posted by: Malisa | October 8, 2008, 9:48 am 9:48 am

Leave it to ABC news to blow something little out of the water. the problem in this country is the media and ridiculous stories like this take the focus from facts to an irrelevant issue like race. MCCAIN is not a rascist and anyone who thinks that way is reaching…… abcnews is a joke

Posted by: postini | October 8, 2008, 9:48 am 9:48 am

Krumpter has a point.

Posted by: Angelo | October 8, 2008, 9:49 am 9:49 am

Are we really a country of such sensitive idiots??? Seriously…McCain didn’t mean anything by what he said. If you think it was racist, you need to get a life and probably a job!

Posted by: Annie Blahn | October 8, 2008, 9:52 am 9:52 am

I don’t think it was racist, it was just plain rude and disrespectful.That is not the character you want to portray being head of a powerful nation to other nations.

Posted by: Bobbi | October 8, 2008, 9:52 am 9:52 am

Are we really a country of such sensitive idiots??? Seriously…McCain didn’t mean anything by what he said. If you think it was racist, you need to get a life and probably a job!

Posted by: Annie Blahn | October 8, 2008, 9:52 am 9:52 am

Posted by: tim | Oct 7, 2008 11:39:59 PM
What’s your name boy? “Kuta Kenta”. No your name is “That One”. Now, what’s your name? “Senator Barak Obama.
REPLY TO TIM: That’s not how the film dialogue went at all. In the film “Roots,” no one said, “That one.” The name imposed on Kunta Kinte (correct spelling) was “Toby.” So it’s wrong for you to link the movie (charged with all the emotional symbolism it deserves) with an expedient choice of words from McCain. Apples and oranges.
The danger in your linking the film was to imply that McCain deliberately plucked those words from the film (though they never spoken in the movie). Was this your intent? If so, it was intellectually dishonest. You might have a good argument for your candidate somewhere beneath the surface, but we’ll never find it as long as you distort facts. It’ll also damage your credibility, as well as your candidate’s.
That isn’t saying McCain was effective or respectful in the debate. But we’re getting way off track in this election when we make something out of nothing.
Our biggest threat is the sloppy thinking of our citizens. Their lack of critical thinking skills causes us the gravest harm — from the financially illiterate who took out bad mortgages to shallow choices for president. Our government is only as strong as we are. Americans need to take a hard look at themselves and train their minds to evaluate the world about them intelligently.

Posted by: Lou | October 8, 2008, 9:52 am 9:52 am

McCain did asked “which Senator voted for it?”, and then answered his own question by saying, “That one.”
That’s exactly what it means.

Posted by: Angelo | October 8, 2008, 9:53 am 9:53 am

Okay, folks, time to brush up on yoour basic English.
The phrase, “that one,” in the context that Senator McCain used it clearly meant, “that Senator.”
McCain’s rhetorical question (paraphrased) was: “Which voted for the bill.”
And McCain’s answer was: “That one” as he gestured toward Senator Obama. The obvious meaning: That Senator.
IMHO, way too many people are overreacting to the least little thing in order to put a racial taint on it. We’d be better off by focusing on the real issues in this campaign — and race isn’t one of them.

Posted by: Bill Krumpter | October 8, 2008, 9:54 am 9:54 am

Watching the debate, I don’t think that the ‘That One’ comment was remotely racist. Disrespectful perhaps, but more careless than anything.
Watching him struggle through that debate really brought home his advanced age. I think perhaps he had a ‘senior moment.’

Posted by: Lacey | October 8, 2008, 9:54 am 9:54 am

“That one” is worth an article. Talk about pettiness! I’m an Obama supporter and it even angers me that anyone would be so petty.

Posted by: Mickey | October 8, 2008, 9:54 am 9:54 am

The term definitely has racial connotations. Whether McCain intended it as a racial insult in another issue.
I don’t think he did.
Nevertheless, it was a rude and demeaning way for McCain to refer to his opponent. And like McCain’s refusal to shake Obama’s hand after the debate, it highlights the man’s temperamental unfitness to be president.

Posted by: Katia | October 8, 2008, 9:55 am 9:55 am

Lynne, you are tired of hearing the word racist but you stated in your post that Obama should not be elected because of his name. What exactly would you call that? Not to mention this is a name given to him by his white mother but I’m sure that you believe in the racist ideology that one drop of black blood makes you black. If you don’t believe that why do you view Obama as black, why do you believe he is racist against whites which would mean he is racist against himself, his mother, and the very people he grew up with… I don’t think McCain was being racist, but he was being rude and dismissive, he is obviously angry for what I don’t know this is a campaign someone has to win and someone has to lose..
JL please present the evidence you have that justifys you saying Obama is a Muslim…There are many Jewish people named Barak (spelled that way) look it up. It just shows how ignorant you are to lable someone based on a name. If you do not like Obama that is your choice but to keep promoting lies makes your ignorance shine!

Posted by: Sandy | October 8, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am

He reminds me of my 84 year old mother who cannot keep the grand kids straight. “That one” she says when she can’t remember the kid’s name. Clearly he forgot Obama’s name. He is that old

Posted by: Kris | October 8, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am

” Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen.”
Ephesians 4:29

Posted by: Donna | October 8, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am

Lacey — worse yet, in the context of what McCain was talking about, it is proper English. He meant “That Senator.”
Which Senator voted for it?
“That One.”
End of discussion.

Posted by: Angelo | October 8, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am

I immediately took offense at John Mccain reference “that one” as not only racial and indicated his prejudice towards Senator Obama age. He’s just mad he doesn’t have this presidential election “in the bag.” Senator Obama deserved more respect than that. With grace and dignity Obama didn’t respond.

Posted by: charmaine | October 8, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am

I immediately took offense at John Mccain reference “that one” as not only racial and indicated his prejudice towards Senator Obama age. He’s just mad he doesn’t have this presidential election “in the bag.” Senator Obama deserved more respect than that. With grace and dignity Obama didn’t respond.

Posted by: charmaine | October 8, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am

If your white and you open your mouth someone will call you a racist a black person can say anything and never be called a racist it works both ways people.

Posted by: Real Story | October 8, 2008, 9:58 am 9:58 am

“THAT ONE” is going to be the next president of the United States.
McCain was arrogant, condescending and he and his wife did not even turn to shake hands with Michelle Obama. Not very diplomatic nor presidential. Can you imagine if it were the real enemy?
He doesn’t have any understanding with lower income, middle class families who struggles everyday. You are a good war veteran and thank you for your service.
I’m voting for Obama/Biden

Posted by: Aurora Fam | October 8, 2008, 9:58 am 9:58 am

I think geevil is related to that dead anthrax scientist

Posted by: Jeff | October 8, 2008, 9:59 am 9:59 am

This is just a tactic the spin doctors are trying to make into an issue. Don’t be stupid and fall for it. The truth is that B.O. is not prepared to be our leader. He will be another Jimmy Carter – yuk! He talks about a lot of things he is going to do – how will it be paid for? He said he would work on our problems in this country one by one-prioritize – they are all important and should all be dealt with at the same time- if he is going to be president he has to be able to walk and chew gum at the same time. John McCain is not a racists and can get the job done to put this country on the right path. For years I have followed how he has tried to get Congress to stop tacking on pork barrel spending to legislature. Wake up – read for yourself and stop relying on biased news groups to give you the real story.

Posted by: nvs | October 8, 2008, 9:59 am 9:59 am

What everyone is missing here is what it demonstrates…poor judgement. Lack of control. And not just this gaff. TWICE McCain set HIMSELF up to be slammed. And both slams he was slammed last debate as well! When he was walking around saying “you need to speak carefullY” i’m at home thinking “you dumb ass, the next thing Obama i s going ot refer to is your singing bomb bomb bomb Iran on a televised town hall meeting” an sure enough, that’s the next thing out of Obama’s mouth. Why did MCcain not know that? McCain was honestly surpirsed w hen it happened. why? It happened LAST debate, thesame exchange, mccain setting himself up to be slammed exactly the same way. I knew it was going ot happen, and i am just some joe shmo sitting at home with no debate prep. I dont trust McCain. Is it his age? Or is he really not that bright? I dont know. Either way, I wouldNEVER trust him to lead the country. Something, some mental faculty, is not there.

Posted by: frank | October 8, 2008, 10:00 am 10:00 am

I’m for Obama all the way. He is the best choice for America at this time.
At the same time, it is extremely unfair to label a person or statement as racist when it was clearly not intended to be racist, or when it comes from a man who has lived a long life without being racist.
Obama for President, yes. McCain is not a racist. The statement was not intended to be racist.
If some people are hyper-sensistive to various terms such as “that one…” etc., they should just deal with it themselves.
Must we walk on eggshells in fear that the next phrase we utter could be misinterpreted as racist. That is overly politically correct.
Obama and McCain are both decent individuals. Obama is the best man for the job of President. McCain is not. He is still a decent man and he is clearly not a racist.

Posted by: Harper | October 8, 2008, 10:01 am 10:01 am

Of course it’s a tempest in a teapot. Isn’t that what we are doing here? I thought that was the whole point.

Posted by: jock59801 | October 8, 2008, 10:02 am 10:02 am

This sort of divisive parsing of language is exactly why the American public is mad as hell.

Posted by: this one | October 8, 2008, 10:03 am 10:03 am

For ggg. As to your comment it was very idiotic. If you half black, your black. You would have no idea Obama was half white if he never said anything. How do you raise a black man as white man society will tell you it’s impossible.

Posted by: Charmaine | October 8, 2008, 10:03 am 10:03 am

For ggg. As to your comment it was very idiotic. If you half black, your black. You would have no idea Obama was half white if he never said anything. How do you raise a black man as white man society will tell you it’s impossible.

Posted by: Charmaine | October 8, 2008, 10:03 am 10:03 am

Angelo…I get Krumpter and your point. But Could he have not said Which Senator voted……….? Not me but Senator Obama voted…..! It was very distasteful on “the other one’s” part.

Posted by: Bobbi | October 8, 2008, 10:03 am 10:03 am

Bill K, you’re right, thankfully, race hasn’t been one of the issues of the campaign.
Presidential leadership and presence rightfully are issues, however, and McCain continues to slip when it comes to those qualities. Obama has been superbly poised in both debates, while McCain has appeared snipish and irritated.
Reagan, in contrast to Carter, for example won by exuding those same reassuring and gracious tones that Obama is now displaying. In times of national uncertainty, there’s no question that this stark contrast of poise and presence between Obama and McCain matters a great deal.

Posted by: Alan | October 8, 2008, 10:05 am 10:05 am

Why was nothing said in the last debate when Obama call McCain Tom and Jim?

Posted by: dana | October 8, 2008, 10:06 am 10:06 am

You guys have to stop blaming the MSM for McCain’ failures. It wasn’t the media that said…”that one”, it wasn’t the media that said to that African American “you may not know about it” (Fannie May), and it wasn’t the media that avoided at looking at his opponent in the eyes, it was McCain. What McCain did better than the media could ever do, is to show everybody who McCain really is. McCain and only McCain deserves all the credit here. The fact is…McCain is not the man to bring this nation together and fix what is wrong. All he proved more than anything is that he is NOT “that one”.

Posted by: Jake | October 8, 2008, 10:06 am 10:06 am

After all the fuss about ‘lipstick on the pig’, now McCain is in hot water.
Would he apologize?…I think not!
He is too arrogant and hypocritical to do it.

Posted by: thinker | October 8, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am

“The cameras cut away when McCain said this one. McCain then referred to him as this one.”
NO, NO, NO. McCain did not say ‘this one’. McCain said ‘me’.
“That one” is a derogatory reference — and everyone knows it, including McCain.

Posted by: hang | October 8, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am

Ok, the comment was a little strange. I was more put off by Gov. Palin (in the previous debate) calling Senator Obama by his first name when he wasn’t there. Its one thing when the person is in the room, but a little weird when they are not. (And no one seems to be calling her Sarah yet). I didn’t know the history of the reference, and obviously for people from the south it has a very negative one. I’m not sure Sen. McCain meant it that way (and I’m an Obama supporter) but mostly I agree that we are spending a lot of time on a two word comment when the economy is wonky, health care needs help, education needs help, and there are children in this county who go to bed hungry every night. Could we maybe spend as much time on those issues?

Posted by: Littlebit | October 8, 2008, 10:08 am 10:08 am

I should add that reverend Wright is not a flaming racist. Obama associates with real racists and his crew calls everyone else racist.
What has Obama done other than run for the highest office in the land? He has not done anything significant that would warrant respect.

Posted by: this one | October 8, 2008, 10:08 am 10:08 am

Can I have some cream and sugar with that comment please? A big to do about absolutely nothing – !

Posted by: Mike | October 8, 2008, 10:08 am 10:08 am

I think it was disrespectful to refer to Senator Obama as “that one.” Just as it was disrespectful for Governor Palin to refer to Senator Obama numerous times in the VP debate as Barack. It’s SENATOR Obama.

Posted by: Cynda P. | October 8, 2008, 10:08 am 10:08 am

Harper – Please McCain is a racist and there is no way to depend him. He don’t even look at black people becasue he feel blacks are beneth him. This is how a like of older white men feel about black people.

Posted by: gl | October 8, 2008, 10:09 am 10:09 am

Posted by: Bill Krumpter | Oct 8, 2008 9:47:02 AM
I was pleased to hear McCain’s “that one” as that pretty much clinched it for him.
REPLY TO KRUMPTER: No, that’s not what cost McCain the election. But something else he said last night just might.
What most likely cost him the election was his plan to expand the bailout to buy up bad mortgages and reprice them at their current value. Would anyone ever do that to your stock portfolio if you are only showing a paper loss? The plan is nonsense, and the moment I heard it, I knew that Republicans and Democrats against the bailout (who were still tilting toward McCain; aka, justsaynodeal.com) would just stay home and not vote at all.
This is the one and only statement that’s lead me to believe that McCain is truly out of touch — nothing to do with age, everything to do with him being too conciliatory and paying too much attention to the whiners and not the thinkers in this country.
There’s a strong majority of people who are against socializing risks. Obama, naturally, blew it with them, as he’s about socializing most of everything (he complains about government, but his solution to government is more government).
But McCain absolutely crushed their hopes that there was a chance we could defeat that mindset by being in lockstep with those for the bailout. Not just lockstep, but one step further with more unsound bailouts.
There’s little, other than opposing Obama, that will motivate that strong majority to vote. Not even Sarah Palin can save them, as she also missed her opportunity to dissent from the bailout with her opening debate statement. They could have had it all — McCain and Palin — but they blew it. It wouldn’t have happened if they would have just listened to the people.

Posted by: Lou | October 8, 2008, 10:10 am 10:10 am

Did anyone notice that when the debate was over and the candidates and their wives were walking around and shaking hands that Cindy McCain (most of the time) kept her hands clasped together in front of her while Michelle Obama was out there shaking as many hands as she could? What’s the matter Cindy? Too good to shake hands with us commoners? To some, this might be a little thing, but to me it spoke volumes.
OBAMA/BIDEN `08

Posted by: Chris | October 8, 2008, 10:10 am 10:10 am

George Bush has been in office for 7 1/2 years.
The first six the economy was fine.
A little over one year ago:
1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
3) the unemployment rate was 4.5%.
4) the DOW JONES hit a record high–14,000 +
5) American’s were buying new cars,taking cruises,
vacations overseas, living large!…
But American’s wanted ‘CHANGE’!
So, in 2006 they voted in a Democratic Congress and yes–
we got ‘CHANGE’ all right. In the PAST YEAR:
1) Consumer confidence has plummeted ;
2) Gasoline is now over $4 a gallon & climbing!;
3) Unemployment is up to 5.5% (a 10% increase);
4) Americans have seen their home equity drop
by $12 TRILLION DOLLARS and prices still dropping;
5) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.
6) as I write, THE DOW is probing another low~~
$2.5 TRILLION DOLLARS HAS EVAPORATED FROM THEIR STOCKS, BONDS & MUTUAL FUNDS INVESTMENT PORTFOLIOS!
YES, IN 2006 AMERICA VOTED FOR CHANGE…
AND WE SURE GOT IT! ….
REMEMBER THE PRESIDENT HAS NO CONTROL OVER ANY OF THESE ISSUES, ONLY CONGRESS.
AND WHAT HAS CONGRESS DONE IN THE LAST TWO YEARS? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!
NOW THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT CLAIMS HE IS GOING TO REALLY GIVE US CHANGE ALONG WITH A DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS!!!!
JUST HOW MUCH MORE ‘CHANGE’
DO YOU THINK YOU CAN STAND?

Posted by: lanceplunger | October 8, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am

The phrase “that one” is not even a derogatory reference. It has certainly never been a racist reference.

Posted by: this one | October 8, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am

hang, McCain then asked, “And who voted against the bill?
Answering his own question, “Me, it was me.”
Hang go back to bed.

Posted by: Angelo | October 8, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am

If McCain wanted to call Obama a stupid black monkey he would have. But he didn’t have to, because everyone knows it already anyway. McCain isn’t a racist. In fact he took the high road by NOT pointing out the fact that Obama is a stupid jumped-up porch monkey.

Posted by: this one | October 8, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am

“That one” is rude, regardless of who said it.
During VP debate, Palin kept referring to Biden as “the other ticket.” I thought that was a bit rude too. Don’t you have the respect to call them by their names?
I know that these aren’t the issues, but it gives an insight into McCain’s personality (he’s known for having a bad temper). Will he work effectively with others, or will he just be offending them as well?

Posted by: Jaclyn | October 8, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am

Democrats playing the race card? Nothing new there. People like Bennie beneath me feel the need to lie about McCain’s record and credentials because they don’t have a leg to stand on when voting for a guy who ran for president after barely 1.5 years as a senator with no military and almost no foreign policy experience.
FYI, McCain said he WILL cut taxes for all Americans. Obama said he “WANTS” to cut taxes for the middle class. Listen to their words in the debate if you don’t believe me. Obama also acknowledged he’ll fine parents who can’t afford insurance for their children and small businesses who can’t afford insurance for their employees, but never answered how much those fines will be even when challenged by McCain.

Posted by: Task | October 8, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am

Google “mccain racist” and you can read how he has referred to Asians in 2000. “That one” doesn’t come as a surprise as all.
THAT ONE 08!

Posted by: anony mouse | October 8, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am

McCain’s reference to “that one” – to me met ‘that N-Word” How can rational people not see that he is disrespectful and a bigot. So is his wife. He cannot stand being outclassed, outstyled, outsmarted by a “N-word” according to McCain.

Posted by: cool n calm | October 8, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am

Let’s see: a rich, white man refers to a black man as “that one”. I’ve heard and seen enough…have you?
Let’s see: a rich, white gal wears a $300 thou outfit at the RNC – while the rest of the country is teetering on poverty, save 2% of the bazillionaires and their rotten offspring. I’ve seen enough…have you?
Let’s read “Tale of Two Cities” again, shall we?

Posted by: Mary Lou | October 8, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am

this one – when a white man uses a dehumanizing term against a black man in America, it’s hard not to take it as coded racist language, given our country’s sad and divisive racial history. McCain should have known better.

Posted by: lev mendell | October 8, 2008, 10:15 am 10:15 am

I’m responding to one of the contributors of this site who wrote that “McShame’s” comment – “that one,” was viewed as offensive only because he was referring to a black senator and that “normally” there would not be such a fuss made. Let me assure you, if he had called a senator of any race or gender, “that one,” most of us would have noticed because it was simply very disrespectful and very un-presidential.

Posted by: Donna Barski | October 8, 2008, 10:17 am 10:17 am

One thing I know for sure — McCain is classy! http://tinyurl.com/4a44zt

Posted by: Huffybike | October 8, 2008, 10:17 am 10:17 am

It’s not about race. It’s about respect. If McCain can’t respect a colleague then why would he respect the American people? I wasn’t paying a lot of attention during the debate, but this grabbed my ear.

Posted by: Enviro | October 8, 2008, 10:17 am 10:17 am

“That one” sent off my “rude radar” immediately. Then I wondered, “Did he have a senior moment and actually forget his opponent’s name?” Not sure if it was racist, but it was disrespectful and a bit strange.

Posted by: obamamama | October 8, 2008, 10:17 am 10:17 am

To Lanceplunger: You would do well to crack open a history book. Absolute denial does not change the truth, your problem is your perception is your realty, not anyone elses. The sad thing is those who deny the past are typicaly condemned to repeat it. Good luck with that.

Posted by: Roger Howard | October 8, 2008, 10:18 am 10:18 am

I’m from the South AND was carefully indoctrinated in the art of political correctness. Never have I heard that saying “that one” is remotely racist. It simply is not.
McCain blew this debate for other reasons … this is a red herring for you guys and you don’t even know it.
It certainly takes off the “cognitive load” to take two words and justify who we will vote for … but it’s not very intellectually satisfying, is it? The world is a complex place, and we need to grapple with the issues and come up with better than either/or solutions.
Can we have a real discussion here?

Posted by: Lou | October 8, 2008, 10:18 am 10:18 am

Task – McCain made alot of promises he won’t be able to keep. That’s no reason for me to take him seriously. He lost my vote the minute he picked that obnoxious clown Palin as his running mate. I’m not crazy about Obama, but McCain has gone off the rails completely.

Posted by: American Independent | October 8, 2008, 10:19 am 10:19 am

Maybe it’s Grampy’s dementia setting in and he just can’t remember Obama’s name or that he is a Senator.

Posted by: Bell | October 8, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am

John must apologize for ‘the one’ remark to avoid being called hypocrite and arrogant, because he made too much fuss about ‘lipstick on the pig’.
But that’s not the most important point.
I was leaning McCain until his last bomb shell exploded: ‘the treasury should buy all the bad mortgages and give a house to all real estate gamblers’.
John that is the most socialist approach uttered by any politician in the last decade!
If USA chooses the socialist path, than we better hand it to Obama since he will not make a joke of the conservative principles.
Sorry John, I’m voting with the libertarian Barr.

Posted by: thinker | October 8, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am

Lou – I’m from the South, too, and I dunno about racist, but it sure was just plain rude! McCain has an obviously lack of respect for Mr. Obama which I found very sad. McCain has no class.

Posted by: Biggun | October 8, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am

I have just run through most of the comments made about the “THAT ONE” comment at last night’s debate, and I have to tell most of you that I have a bridge to sell……and most of you probably want to buy it! Don’t you realize how the Obama campaign INTERPRETED McCain’s reference to “that Senator? as racist??? Hell, the debate wasn’t even over and “Burton,” Barry’s communicator withe the press had tossed out an email to “that” ilk pushing the comment as racist, and boy, did they eat in up….like kids looking for more koolaid. Keep in mind that the media is no smarter than you, and they love to fan fires….with or without flames.
Obama isnot Black….Obama isnot White…Obama isnot Afro-American. Obama is, indeed, bi-racial…with neither half of his racial makeup being dominant. So, don’t join the kiddies and the Burtons and all those others who staff the Obama campaign AS THEY PUSH THE RACE CARD OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
,,,and you thought the Cardiff Giant was a hoax?…..and that’s that!

Posted by: justj joey | October 8, 2008, 10:21 am 10:21 am

Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran.
Who said that?????
And the Roosevelt quote is actually “Speak softly and carry a big stick”. Rhetoric from over 100 years ago!!

Posted by: James | October 8, 2008, 10:21 am 10:21 am

McCain is a racist AND rude.

Posted by: lev mendell | October 8, 2008, 10:22 am 10:22 am

Posted by: Chris | Oct 8, 2008 10:10:38 AM
Do I think it was racialy motovated, Yes. But not in the overt way of a Klansmen, but in that insideous way of trying to keep someone down.
REPLY TO CHRIS: Speaking of Klansmen, why on earth does the Democratic Party still have Sen. Byrd around? He was the “grand cyclops” (uber-creepy) of the KKK. Time to retire the evil, old guard.

Posted by: Lou | October 8, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am

Ok, this is a SECOND try to leave a comment here…
Anyone that is instrumental in MAKING SURE that AMERICAN POW/MIAs are ABANDONED, left behind, will treat YOU, on Main Street, the same way
Also, as to “Bail Outs”, there is an alternative, Better SANE Plan to begin fixing our probems
see Perotcharts.com

Posted by: POWMIA | October 8, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am

“That One”was a supressed racial slur from McCain,pure and simple,not to mention an excellant example of McCain’s hair-trigger temper that He’s so famous for.
How sad,Mr. McCain,how sad indeed.

Posted by: J.C. | October 8, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am

RUSH THE PRESSES OBAMA IS NOT BLACK HE IS BI-RACIAL OWE MY GOD! TELL EVERYONE YOU KNOW HE IS HALF WHITE………….

Posted by: 1nana23 | October 8, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am

Is the “that one” reference a “dog whistle” to the “AntiChrist”?

Posted by: Rich | October 8, 2008, 10:25 am 10:25 am

McShame lost the debate lost night. And he is going to lose the election. And this old black man is going to laugh long and hard at all the racists and white supremacists who ever did him wrong. Somewhere in heaven Martin and Malcolm are laughing, too. Yes we can!

Posted by: Biggun | October 8, 2008, 10:25 am 10:25 am

PEOPLE LISTEIN- IM A OBAMA SUPPORTER, AND I WILL BE RATIONAL ENOUGH TO SAY THAT I DON’T BELIEVE THAT SEN. MCCAIN MEANT ANYTHING BY HIS COMMENT. BUT I MUST SAY THAT FOR SOMEONE WHO IS A GRADUATE OF ONE OF THE TOP UNIVERSITIES IN OUR COUNTRY, FOR SOMEONE WHO HAS SERVED HIS COMMUNITY, AND HAS SERVED AT THE SENATE, FOR SOMEONE WHO IS A HUSBAND AND A FATHER, I THINK NOT CALLING HIM BY HIS NAME WAS JUST A LITTLE INAPPROPRIATE. I MEAN, THEY WEREN’T IN A LITTLE MEETING, THEY WERE IN A DEBATE WITH MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WATHCHING. GIVE HIM THE RESPECT THAT HE DESERVES BY IDENTIFYING WHO HE IS…NOT AS TWO SEN’S, NOT AS A REPUBLICAN TO DEM, NOT AS TWO OPPONENT’S, BUT FROM ONE MAN TO ANOTHER..

Posted by: VINCE-FOOD FOR THOUGHT | October 8, 2008, 10:28 am 10:28 am

Lou – hey, betcha can’t tell me how long or how long ago Byrd was in the KKK. Here’s a hint: Hitler was still chancellor of Germany and D-Day hadn’t happened yet. Ancient history, dude. Byrd moved on and repudiated the Klan a long time ago, why can’t you?

Posted by: lev mendell | October 8, 2008, 10:28 am 10:28 am

To :that one; Oddly I respect you, in so much as you don’t hide the fact that you are an out and out Racist. At least with you we as thoughtful,inteligent Americans can keep you in front of us and see you coming. John MCcain on the other hand is a closet Racist, steeped in years of priviledge. I am not the type to turn the other cheek, so for your sake Mr. “That One” stay in your trailer and dont venture out other than to get more cheap beer or visit your Dad in jail. America is for everyone, Even a troglodyte like you.

Posted by: Roger Howard | October 8, 2008, 10:28 am 10:28 am

Racist or not, it was still totally rude and no way to treat a colleague in the Senate. McCain owes Obama a public apology for his disrespect.

Posted by: karen topping | October 8, 2008, 10:29 am 10:29 am

No big deal. At least McCain didn’t call Obama a terrorist. His campaign is imploding anyway.

Posted by: em | October 8, 2008, 10:29 am 10:29 am

That’s it. We all know this is a racist nation. McCain is only invoking racism to remind all white voters that Obama is BLACK and does not deserve to be a President. This being a very very racist country I think it worked well. Now we will have racist discussion and all the white voters have an execuse to vote McCain and openly declare their allegiance to a white candidate.
How did a black person think he would become the President of America? Not in a million will the American white voters let a black man be a president and that’s the reality.

Posted by: Fairview | October 8, 2008, 10:30 am 10:30 am

Roger Howard – Drop dead you race mixing n– lover!

Posted by: this one | October 8, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am

John McCain showed his racial prejudiced views last night when he referred to Barack Obama as “that one.” If he had not enticed crowd hate, terrorist, kill him, treason, racial prejudice, news media hate at events lately this reference could be overlooked. NOTE -One person in crowd turned to black news caster and yelled at him “Sit down boy!” Then last night at debate McCain actually refused to shake hands when Obama attempted to shake his hands. That’s right McCain refused! Proof is on video.
This 2008 and racial prejudice and hate mongering are not to be tolerated. FBI security for Obama will be even higher now because Palin and Obama are enticing someone to “kill Obama!” McCain and Palin should be investigated by FBI!! Killing a presidential candidate is serious. No Republican or Democrat should approve of Palin and McCain encouraging “kill him!”

Posted by: Sharonklim | October 8, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am

McCain is just an angry, nasty old man. He’s out of touch and doesn’t know what he’s doing anymore. That’s why his campaign is such a total mess.

Posted by: Marquee Mark | October 8, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am

If McCain wanted to call Obama a stupid black monkey he would have. But he didn’t have to, because everyone knows it already anyway. McCain isn’t a racist. In fact he took the high road by NOT pointing out the fact that Obama is a stupid jumped-up porch monkey.
This is to THIS ONE _ HOW ABOUT YOUR MOTHER IS A MONKEY. YOU RACIST WHITE NUT! PALIN AND MCCAIN HAVE BROUGHT OUT ALL THE RACIST WHITE PEOPLE THAT WAS IN THE CLOSKET WHICH IS SAD!

Posted by: GL | October 8, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am

Posted by: VINCE-FOOD FOR THOUGHT | Oct 8, 2008 10:28:10 AM
Please Vince, Byrd is not worthy of your effort. Go higher up the food chain. You deserve better.

Posted by: Lou | October 8, 2008, 10:34 am 10:34 am

I’m from Arizona and it’s pretty well known here that McCain hates black people – remember that he voted against a national Martin Luther King holiday THREE TIMES. McCain is a racist!

Posted by: Let's Roll | October 8, 2008, 10:35 am 10:35 am

Lou – why can’t you answer my question? Please tell me how long ago Byrd was in the KKK, how long he was a member and why you think it still matters in 2008?

Posted by: lev mendell | October 8, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am

Posted by: justj joey | Oct 8, 2008 10:21:43 AM
And the Roosevelt quote is actually “Speak softly and carry a big stick”. Rhetoric from over 100 years ago!!
REPLY TO JUSTJ: You’re 100% right about McCain being an idiot when he said that.
As for Roosevelt, thankfully, some people don’t easily dismiss the wisdom of their forebears. As you get older and gain new perspective on what’s worth fighting for — and the best strategies for fighting, or winning peace — you’ll want to pass along those pearls of wisdom. Don’t be so quick to tear down what’s old or the lessons from the past.
Another pearl (modern variant from Isaac Newton): “If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.” We should all remember this.

Posted by: Lou | October 8, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am

: this one – What is you number becasue I will beat you ASS YOU HEAR ME. THIS IS ALL PALIN AND MCCAIN FALUT FOR INDICING RACIST HATE! THESE TWO ARE GOING TO PAY FOR THIS MESS THEY STARTED!

Posted by: GL | October 8, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am

TO “that one” look, I am not a N****R lover , because that would mean I care about you. A N****R is someone that is lazy,shiftless,ignorant and un-intelligent. All atributes that you proudly display. You’d know this but this information is “hidden” in things called books. Now, go have a conjugal visit with your 1st cousin,curl up in the fetal possition and cry softly. Run along little man, the “Big People are talking now”.

Posted by: Roger Howard | October 8, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am

GL – white people built this country. The white race is the only civilized race on the planet. All others are monkeys and mud people! I will not stand by and see this great nation dragged down by socialists and democrat race-mixers and race-traitors! Blacks are uncivilized animals. Just look at Zimbabwe if you want to see what black leadership gets you! RAHOWA! WHITE POWER!

Posted by: this one | October 8, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am

Sounds fair as in the first debate Obama couldn’t get McCain’s name right. JIMBILL
This is supposed to be an election for president not PR rock star. You are hiring the CEO of Firm USA. Who do you want to run the firm, a manager with over 25 years experience or the newly hired stockboy?
If you complain about Palin’s experience to be VP candidate where does that leave Obama? She has more real experience than he has. Or is Obama really running as Biden’s VP?
No time for an amateur.No on the job training time.

Posted by: AmerVtrn | October 8, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am

Roger Howard – don’t raise your voice to a white man, boy. Don’t make me warn you again.

Posted by: this one | October 8, 2008, 10:41 am 10:41 am

I’m from Arizona and it’s pretty well known here that McCain hates black people – remember that he voted against a national Martin Luther King holiday THREE TIMES. McCain is a racist!
Let the truth be told. McCain do not like blacks and have not respect for blacks. How can some one claim he will work arcoss the ailes when he voted three times for MLK hoiliday!

Posted by: gl | October 8, 2008, 10:42 am 10:42 am

AmerVtrn – wrong. Obama has seven years experience in the Illinois State Senate alone which is equal to Palin’s entire political career. Try again.

Posted by: nimbus | October 8, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am

Byrd has a history of opposing black judicial and cabinet nominees — though he occasionally reaches out, when necessary, as he did to Sen. Obama. He’s no fool, which explains his staying power. If you like this sort of guy, then keep voting him in. I, for one, would like to see him retire.

Posted by: Lou | October 8, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am

McCain is the choice of right-thinking American white men and women. He is the last hope of the White Race in America. If Obama wins there will be a race war in America.

Posted by: this one | October 8, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am

this one – You are a white racist hater and the HAte you as well! BRING IT ON YOU WHITE PIG AND YOUR MOTHER IS A BIG FAT WHITE PIG!

Posted by: GL | October 8, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am

This really is a RUKiddingMe??? moment! I really LOVE how Obama’s party is the only one talking race. Sorry, folks, Republicans will not vote for Obama because he’s a Democratic, not because he’s black (just like they didn’t vote for Kerry and Gore). Get over it.

Posted by: RUKiddingMe?? | October 8, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am

The racial undertones “that one” in the attacks are disgusting.
The next thing McCain camp will do is to come out and say outright “how can you vote for black man”.
This country, all said and done, is outrageously racist.
Obama may be up in the polls today and probably even on Nov 3, but HE IS NOT GOING TO WIN.
Racists in this country don’t’ care if the country goes to hell, but they will not let a BLACK man become the President. This is my prediction. McCain knows it, and he is playing his cards that way. I sincerely pray god that I am proved wrong. After Nov 4, this phenomenon will be written in
the history books as OBAMA EFFECT not Bradley effect.

Posted by: VP | October 8, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am

Democrats and the press are all the same. You focus on the little things and not the big issues. That is why we are in this mess now. We are not on a playground at recess. McCain was not being racist at all. Look at the records and the facts. Obama is not qualified to be President of this great nation after such short time in the Senate. He would never be promoted to run big business after 143 days on the job – why would you promote him to President. He is a good talker – but where will that get us. NOWHERE – Look into his past – look at his racist comments in the books he has written. Democrats and the press, are doing a great job at ignoring that.

Posted by: Lisa | October 8, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am

Lou – um, no, Byrd has a history of opposing REPUBLICAN nominees who happen to be black. Please stop twisting the facts and please answer my earlier questions. When was Byrd in the KKK and how long was he a member, and why does that still matter to you in 2008?
And what will you Republicans have to rant about when he retires?

Posted by: lev mendell | October 8, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am

@ Shenia in AK
Boy you are dumber than you look. No wonder Democrats are smarter than Rebublicans. You idiot!! Anyone with an iota of what it takes to become an american knows that if you are born by a U.S. Citizen on American Soil, they are american citizen. Obama was in fact born in Honolulu, Hawaii. Unless you want to disenfranchise, or secede Hawaii from the Union like Palin does Alaska, Obama has full rights to this country moreso than that ungrateful Panamian McCain. So get your facts straight!!! You want to get technical then vote against McCain who wasn’t born here, McCain was born in Panama. You nasty neocons and stupid republicans get caught on your lies everytime.

Posted by: Paul Boone Pickens | October 8, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am

Lou – um, no, Byrd has a history of opposing REPUBLICAN nominees who happen to be black. Please stop twisting the facts and please answer my earlier questions. When was Byrd in the KKK and how long was he a member, and why does that still matter to you in 2008?
And what will you Republicans have to rant about when he retires?

Posted by: lev mendell | October 8, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am

this one – Black people build this country you stupid ass whole! You are a real piece of work you little white nut case. ALL WHITE MEN DID WAS STILL FROM OTHER COUNTRY AND CLAIMED IT AS THEIR. WHITE ME ARE THE WEAKESS MEN THE THIS WORLD BECASUE THEY JUST STILL FROM EVERYBODY!

Posted by: GL | October 8, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am

Warn away, the simple truth is your in way over your head. This country was built on the back of immigrants and the poor.Both of wich I am sure you are. Trying to be intimidating on a blog shows what a sad little man you are. Look, someone sold you a bill of goods because your life is so pathetic that its the only thing you have to cling to. Your candidate is going to lose and your fears are now realized. So,go getdrunk, beat your kids, hit your girlfriend, and complain that “it aint fair”. You know, your typical day. Don’t you have to go clean your Hood or somethin? God Bless America, Even you MR. Racist. Smile.

Posted by: Roger Howard | October 8, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am

GL – don’t raise your voice to a white man, boy. I am your superior and don’t you forget it! When McCain takes power people like you will learn your place again. This uppity negro Obama is giving you mud people a little too much pride and sass.

Posted by: this one | October 8, 2008, 10:51 am 10:51 am

Roger Howard – keep talkin’ big mouth. You won’t be so high and mighty when your time comes. Stupid liberals don’t know what’s in store for them!

Posted by: this one | October 8, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am

Posted by: Roger Howard | Oct 8, 2008 10:39:28 AM
GL – white people built this country. The white race is the only civilized race on the planet. All others are monkeys and mud people!
REPLY TO GL: What you said is patently ludicrous. How on Earth did you arrive at that conclusion? Even closet racist Byrd once said, “Intolerance has no place in America.”

Posted by: Lou | October 8, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am

If my observation of Obama is correct, he will stop his campaign from continuing down the “That One” path. His goal is to lift this country up and he has been consistent in his message and behavior about this central ideal. He knows too well American doesn’t need the polarization on race at this difficult time. McCain and Palin, on the other hand, tried everything they can to polarize American people. Their strategy of bringing out the worst in American people so that they can thrive on anger and fear may or may not succeed. Obama once said he believes in the better angels of American people. I think he is right. There are those of us who are working everyday to feed our family and believe in American value and dreams. You may not hear us yelling and shouting, our strength is in our silence. We will vote for the better future of this country!

Posted by: Shannon | October 8, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am

Wake up, White People! The Demon-rats are the party of the socialist mud people! McCain is the last hope of the White Race in America!

Posted by: this one | October 8, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am

For the African Americans who have a problem with Senator Obama it’s an ashame and insult to your race. Knowing what African Americans went through just to get us to this point.Those who died for just being black, hung in trees, burned alive, and all the other horrible things that has been done to us a people. But for the African Americans who support Sentor Obama THANK YOU!
And for the white people who just can’t see yourself voting for an African American. Look where the white man has us today losing homes, banks folding, jobs being outsourced. Just stop the madness even though you will try to deny it “that one” Senator McCain is not the one to lead the country.

Posted by: Terri | October 8, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am

Posted by: this one | Oct 8, 2008 10:40:15 AM
Meant for that last reply to GL to be a reply to “this one.” Sorry.

Posted by: Lou | October 8, 2008, 10:56 am 10:56 am

Terri – it is not the white man’s fault that minorities weren’t responsible enough to pay back their mortgages. The Demon-rats caused this whole crisis by trying to extend credit to irresponsible minorities with ACORN and Fannie and Freddie and other socialist machinations. Decent, hardworking white people are not the problem – it is the minorities and mud people who are trying to destroy America’s financial system!

Posted by: this one | October 8, 2008, 10:58 am 10:58 am

Sarah Palin is a true American patriot and a champion of the White Race! She will be a great Christian President when McCain dies!

Posted by: this one | October 8, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am

Hey this one, It just goes to show how far a 6TH grade education will take someone. You can use a computer, I’m impressed. Now, after you get up off your 13 year old cousin and wipe the stink of stale beer from your breath(using a toothbrush is pointless for just 3 teeth)turn on your TV and witness the fall of your kind. By the time your in 8th grade the fourth time(about 2022) this country will be a beautiful mix of Hispanic,white,Black,Asian,Itallian,Irish and allother amazing ,intelligent,caring, talented people and guess what “BOY” you’ll have to leave this land because trailer parks will be a thing of the past-just like you! Have a nice Day. Smile.

Posted by: Roger Howard | October 8, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am

Obama talks that McCain cannot multi-task. Yet, Obama wants to handle America’s problems one at a time. Moreover, Obama supporter call McCain too old when Obama cannot multi-task
Handling one of America’s social problems at a time is called prioritizing. Prioritizing issues is the only way America will get out of the sinkhole we are in. Telling votes he will handle all social issues at the same time is pandering not mult-tasking. And think about it….You have a grave economic crisis and you want to multi-task on the solution instead of focusing in, getting to the heart of the problem and fixing it first. In my job I multi-task a lot but on crucial issues I know I must prioritize and focus. McCain did not demonstrate that he was focused. Obama did.

Posted by: indy_voter | October 8, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am

C’mon people… I don’t think he was being racist, just very rude. He thinks he is above Obama.
Its annoying.

Posted by: Best | October 8, 2008, 11:02 am 11:02 am

I for one am voting That One in ’08 … http://www.cafepress.com/thatone_2008

Posted by: Xeno | October 8, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am

Race has nothing to do with it. McCain is disrespectful to Obama, classless to Biden (hair transplants swipe)and condescending to an audience member/voter (fannie & freddie)
McCain should stop indulging himself with “My freinds…” he, his VP and his campaign are divisive divisive divisive. IMO: An administration run by these would be WORSE than GWB!!!!
I’m voting for “that one!”

Posted by: Libratine | October 8, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am

McCain is literally trying to dehumanize Obama by calling him “that one” and not even looking at him.
This kind of reference he’s using on Obama is a type of war tactic meant to help military kill others.
This matches the Obama terrorist-hate that’s been sprouting at Palin rallies. McCain cannot deny it now.
Shame on McCain for taking the debate to literally hate speech!

Posted by: Colette | October 8, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am

Watching the debate, I couldn’t help notice that McCain talks in generalities, he does not really answer the questions directly. This indicates that he lacks or lost the ability to think fast so he relies on information he memorized for the same speeches.
The incident of “that one” might not be intended as an racial insult, but more likely is the product of his lack of control of that famous temper.
No wonder his wife walks on eggshells around him.

Posted by: Luis Hong | October 8, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am

..please, please all you folks falling into the “race trap” put out by the Obama Campaign.
OBAMA ISNOT BLACK.
OBAMA ISNOT AFRO-AMERICAN
OBAMA ISNOT WHITE.
OBAMA ISNOT “THAT ONE.”
PLEASE RECOGNIZE THAT BURTON….”THAT GUY WHO PUTS OUT COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE PRESS FOR OBAMA’S CAMPAIGN STARTED THIS LATEST SLUR BY EMAILING THE MEDIA BEFORE THE DEBATE WAS EVEN OVER. As Obama is neither white nor black, is it okay that his campaign continues to play the race card? Now, THAT’S not fair….and the media folks let it slide right by, don’t they????

Posted by: justj joey | October 8, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am

We already know his true colors. Did he not call his wife a C**t? In public.
The funny thing is this appears to have been true….As well as other instances where McCain has made some intemparate remarks about others. I think I am beginning to lose what little respect I have had for the man…He certainly does not have the temperment or judgement to lead this country…

Posted by: indy_voter | October 8, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am

HEY ! This one. Your tag name is perfect. Do you not see, even with your limited thought process, you are surrounded on this blog as in real life with AMAZING, INTELIGENT, THOUGHTFULL< TRUE AMERICANS. There are Republicans on this sight and Demecrats as well as Independents. We all have varying view points but we're all respectful and thoughtfull in our responses. We also , all of us EXCEPT YOU, have something in common, wether we agree or not, we ,unlike you, are REAL AMERICANS, I have never been prouder to be an American than when we all stand together against ignorance, (yes that means you This One). Your hole is calling, please crawl back in it.

Posted by: Roger Howard | October 8, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am

Unfortunately for McCain, his “that one” remark only servs to tie him to the kind of politics that is typical of republican politics of George Bush.
Republicans politicians now routinely abandon the Golden Rule and seek to lead through division, castigation and guilt through association.
Unfortunately, for our country in the long run appealing to the darker side of humanity rather than its better half the pernicious effects of the expression of this dark side accumulate and have now greatly weakened our nation.
It is now clear that we need a change from the disastrous republican approach to government and politics that we have endured for far too long. Its time to dispense with wedge issues and the poltics of division, disdain and hate Its time to solve problems rather than creating them.

Posted by: sgp | October 8, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am

NOW THAT I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION…..
OBAMA IS BI-RACIAL.
GEE, YOU THINK HE WOULD AT LEAST SET OUR ENLIGHTENED MEDIA STRAIGHT, WOULDN’T YOU?
HELL, LEAVE IT ALONE…..THIS WAY AXELROD AND THE OTHER OBAMA CAMPAIGN GURUS GET TO PLAY THE RACE CARD, DON’T THEY?
I AM TELLING YOU FOLKS…YOU HAVE TO STOP DRINKING “T H A T” KOOL-AID.

Posted by: justj joey | October 8, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am

This is not a black and white issue – the people who are loosing their homes are the only ones to blame for that. If you want to make it black and white – look at the difference between New Orleans and Galvaston – Those who live there think they are owed everything – for natural desasters – it is not my responsiblity to pay for the stupidity of living in below sea level. The people of the mid-west did not go on tv telling everyone how the goverment needs to pay for their losses. And they did not start stealing from each other in the aftermath. Nor did it happen in Galvaston. You people are your own destruction. Look at who fills our prison systems – that our tax dollars pay for. You should be grateful that america takes care of you in all aspects. I guess it is true – the squeaky wheel gets greased first – those who complain the loudest are usually the ones to blame. That is why you will vote for obama – you know he will keep going with the handouts!
I am tired of paying for peoples poor choices. This is the land of the free and the brave – too bad so many people come here looking for a free ride. The american people should stand up and stop giving it.

Posted by: lisa | October 8, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am

DEHUMANIZING is the term that fits this perfectly. John McCain showed the American people just how he would treat any other man who stood in his path in his quest for power. It spoke volumes to the veiwers and continues here and elsewhere on bloggs and boards everywhere. I knew his running mate had NO social graces and I have heard and seen the infamous Mccain temper but in a nationaly teleivised debate WOW.

Posted by: faxbot | October 8, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am

hey…’INDY VOTER”….take your dirty mind and mouth to CNN with the rest of your ilk. Thanks.

Posted by: justj joey | October 8, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am

Imagine McCain as president and all his advisors are scared of him because of his hot temper. That would be a pretty scary scenario.

Posted by: Luis Hong | October 8, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am

This is reminiscent of Ross Perot’s use of “you people” in a speech which was widely interpreted (rightly or wrongly) as an expression of racism.
I doubt McCain’s use of “that one” was meant to show his disdain for Obama’s *race*, but it showed a lack of good sense and may reveal a deeper current of unconscious racism in his thinking.

Posted by: John | October 8, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am

“white people built this country”…well, that’s not exactly accurate. the chinese and Irish build the railroads. The blacks cleared teh southern plantations grounds, plowed, planted and picked and so built and maintained southern economy southerners wanted to break up Washington’s country so they could keep their humans in bondage, and hence, sustain their standard of living. When you look at genetics and DNA, black and whites, european decendent whites, have the closest relations of any other races on earth, from American indians, asians, polynesians, indigenous Australians, Eskimos, of all the races the closest two who have nearly indentical genomes, are blacks and whites.

Posted by: Jess | October 8, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am

John in Fl. Listening to air head Palin is not a wise thing. They didn’t bring it up because McCain is a “coward” that has used Ms. Palin to spread untruths about SENATOR OBAMA so uneducated people like you would believe it and therefore keep you uninformed and ignorant. McCain did not bring it up because he knows it will be proven a lie, he’s not gonna stick himself out there on such “slime”, that’s why he pick an unrespected and gullible person to do this. Palin is a disgrace for real women who work and take care of there family….she’s being used. NO WOMAN I KNOW GET USED BY ANYONE FOR ANY REASON.

Posted by: sara | October 8, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am

“don’t raise your voice to a white man, boy. I am your superior and don’t you forget it! “…I read this and laugh. I am a women, an engineer, and met this type of mental midget. It always makes me chuckle. the CLEAR sign of someone who is NOT that bright or accomplished is this faux superiority complex thing. Maybe they do this because they are actually very sensitive to the fact they did NOT accomplish anything in life, that they are NOT very smart. A guy like this, it rocks his world for him to look around the room and see that a women is the smartest one there, or a black man is more important and more intelligent than him. That had HE actually worked harder, maybe HE would have done better in life, that HE was the lazy one, the one who couldn’t cut it in school. So he walks around with this false bravado pretending he’s superior and the sad comical part of it is, it fools nobody. One such guy got fired from my last job. I told my boss it was no big deal. I know he was an ass but it actually didn’t bother me. My boss said “It bothered ME! The guy was painful to have around and if he can ONLY act like a normal person if there are white men in teh room then HE is liability. we had to let him go.” Tee hee hee. Poetic justice.

Posted by: Jess | October 8, 2008, 11:59 am 11:59 am

You ask now after you’ve posted 3 articles about it? Um, your bias is showing.

Posted by: Mack | October 8, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm

THIS ONE IS FOR “THAT ONE”.

Posted by: pamp205 | October 8, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm

I watched last night’s debate, I heard Senator McCain use the term “that one” in reference to Senator Obama and refer to himself as “me”. Poor use of the English language at best. Poor statesmanship at worst. Proper English would have been “that one, this one” or “him, me”. That is a pathetically minor point. There is a truly major point here that is being missed. So what if he uses this term all the time? Do you really think a foreign dignitary will take that into consideration when McCain speaks in his personal slang about people who disagree with him? Read the national news more often and you will know better. The leader of the free world is the President of the United States. Here is what I have to say to Senator McCain about getting my vote: Show me that you are this person if you want my vote. Don’t expect me to give you any slack for your “folksy” ability to relate to main street. I am main street and I don’t appreciate it when people “dumb down” their conversation because they think I am not educated as well as them. The average voter in the US today has the equivalent of 2yrs of college and is a blue collar worker. Blue collar is NOT synonymous with “no college” or “not well read” I really don’t care if you can tell me about the other guys faults, tell me about your virtues, and tell me the truth. Don’t waste my time telling me why I should not vote for someone else, tell my why I should vote for you. What qualifies you for such a high office? Explain why you have spent 26 yrs in the senate and have not been a force for positive change in all that time. If you had the solution to the current financial crises before it happened and you saw it coming, why didn’t I hear about you fighting for me in news reports before you “suspended” your campaign to go sit at a conference table in the White House without asking a single question? By the way, that was Senator Obama sitting across from you peppering the gathering with questions. He did not make any announcements about suspending his campaign or “possibly” canceling the debate, but he was there anyway, isn’t it amazing that he could be there, be involved, and not make a big deal out of the fact that he showed up to do his job? Finally; the next time you want to show your support of women in world politics; choose a partner who at least reads a newspaper she can name and someone who can speak with intelligence about domestic and world affairs without 3 weeks of intensive coaching. Someone who already knows about more than her home state because the issues are meaningful to her, because she is aware that a member of the government is of the people and for the people – that’s all the people not just those that fall into her narrow definition of right wing Christianity…there’s a large number of us out here. We live and work in the United States, we outnumber people like Sarah Palin 10-1, come see us on election day. We will be the ones voting for intelligent leadership.

Posted by: singlemomvoting | October 8, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm

Sounds like a good bummper sticker: “This one is voting for That One”

Posted by: mavericky | October 8, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm

Sounds like a good bummper sticker: “This one is voting for That One”

Posted by: mavericky | October 8, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm

I’m sorry but McCain seemed really old to me. I don’t doubt he was good in his days but his age has become a factor for me since Palin is his backup. I would’ve been more comfortable if he chose someone other than Ms. Palin who has been out spewing racially mean girl tactics. My vote will go to Obama/Biden…they’re just the better team. Sorry Republicans, you lost my vote b/c I don’t vote out of allegiance to a party or a philosophy, I vote with an open mind that tells me we need major change from the top and that means the Republican platform needs to give up the reigns. This once undecided, registered Republican vote will go to Obama/Biden. If he doesn’t win, then that would be disastrous b/c it won’t reflect him but racial prejudices…something no one will admit influences their views. Would we even be having this convo if Obama was white and McCain and Palin were black? No….Obama/Biden is clearly the better team.

Posted by: Michelle | October 8, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm

this may sound petty, but Mccain has the ugliness factor to overcome, physically. He is painful to look at. He sort of needs to be even MORE likable to make up for his ugliness, yet his demeanor and personality are so nasty and ugly as well. Obama is such a pleasant person. Pleasant to look at, his voice is this deep pleasant voice to listen to, his words flow so easily and he is such a likable guy. Why McCain was so eager to be right nexdt to this guy in his cranky old man ugly nasty voice and tone and ugly old man body I will never understand. each debate only hurts him. Each one you cringe to hear his voice, find his presence unattractive, and get more used to seeing Obama in a presidential position. What was Mccain’s logic in any of this?

Posted by: Mary | October 8, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm

To the blogger named “Lisa”, if you honestly think that you are a majority voice let me be the first white woman to jump as far away from you as I can get. You do not speak for me and never have. The color of a person’s skin has absolutely nothing to do with the attitude of feeling entitled to a free ride. How dare you call the outcry for help in New Orleans a case of people wanting a free ride? You obviously do not read the constitution. Those people in New Orleans are Americans and they have just as much right to benefit from that fact as anyone else who can claim citizenship in this country. By the way, ANYTIME a natural disaster results in unilateral destruction the area is given government assistance to rebuild. That is one of the supposed reasons we pay our taxes.

Posted by: singlemomvoting | October 8, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm

My observation, my opinion.
Watching McCain times 2 debating with Obama and seeing him on the campaign trail has given America a taste of the Real McCain.
McCain must have America edgy just listening to him and seeing how quick he snaps.
Yes McCain is a POW and he demonstrates his 30 plus years of more then broken bones. He was not only tortured physically, McCain shows a clear sign of an untreated unstable problem which continues to haunt him.
The man snaps in a New York minute.
I read Cindy was asked if John has a temper. God forbid if she said yes.
I notice Cindy follows Senator McCain around like most submissive women.
The other day when McCain was leaving his campaign speech in New Mexico he rushed past Cindy going up the stairs to enter his plane.
Nearly 5 feet past Cindy he caught himself, stopped cold and waited for her to walk the rest of the way together. That was clearly a second thought from someone who shows no respect (naturally) for his wife.
Where is McCain’s dignity and respect throughout this election.
OoPs, I forgot, PALIN is Senator McCain’s Soul mate.
Obama shows himself consistently without thought how a significant other treats their partner with respect, love and unity.
Like my mom told me and my 2 sisters as we were growing up, pay attention to how a man treats his mother.
Show me how a man/woman treats their partner and I’ll show you what kind of a person they are.
McCain’s campaign has repeated over and over again to the American people that Obama is not specific, Obama talks a lot but is never clear, Obama is some guy who came out of left field and America knows nothing about this scary stranger.
I couldn’t disagree more. In the last 2 plus months and the last two debates, Obama is a hard act to follow. YES, “That one.”
Obama shows a clear and precise vision.
The media delivers information to the people and it’s pretty clear who they’re supporting. That’s all fine and to be expected, to a degree. Especially with this election but,
I watched four different news channels last night.
Sean Hannity at FOX news. He is as erratic and out of control as McCain and his campaign people.
This news commentator was screaming and yelling terrorist throughout every interviews with all political parties. At first It wasn’t clear who was interviewing who.
It was said Hannity was doing his job while interviewing a “Jew hater” recently.
America should assume Hannity is a Jew hater too? GUILT BY ASSOCIATION? I certainly don’t think so…
I switched channels thereafter, on to the next one.
Maybe I’m a naive 18 year old first voter. I admit this is the first election I have been following.
It is also an assignment we were instructed to do.

Posted by: Breanna | October 8, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm

Glad someone else noticed Brokaw’s bias towards John McCain. Perhaps it is because Brokaw wrote a book about WWII and the veterans and thinks that McCain should get some points for his service in Vietnam. As Doonsebury cartoon pointed out on Sunday, McCain is still trying to win the Vietnam War. This shows how far behind the times he is. Please retire, take your 13 cars, your wife’s 11 cars and your 7 homes and RIP.

Posted by: Edie | October 8, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm

I am tired of the Obamanation calling anyone who does not agree with Obama stupid. I have every right to not believe him and believe waht I want, and the right to say it. so kiss off…you are not americans, just a bunch of talk and email garbage, just like your candidate. Even if Obama is elected, he can’t do what he wants…. we all have a say in that, you can’t make decisions with only half the country behind you(look at Bush) so if this is a win for Obama, we all lose. How many protests will we have…too many to count…how much money will we have…very little….tax break my rear, he has no idea waht it takes to get that passed…how mad will you all be when everything Obama tries to do get stopped by congress….Ha ha this will be pretty funny when you all get nothing….Illinois is badly in debt…what state does Obama represent? that’s right a state that is so far in debt they will never get out. So I guess we have that to look forward to

Posted by: truth1 | October 8, 2008, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm

I am tired of the Obamanation calling anyone who does not agree with Obama stupid. I have every right to not believe him and believe waht I want, and the right to say it. so kiss off…you are not americans, just a bunch of talk and email garbage, just like your candidate. Even if Obama is elected, he can’t do what he wants…. we all have a say in that, you can’t make decisions with only half the country behind you(look at Bush) so if this is a win for Obama, we all lose. How many protests will we have…too many to count…how much money will we have…very little….tax break my rear, he has no idea waht it takes to get that passed…how mad will you all be when everything Obama tries to do get stopped by congress….Ha ha this will be pretty funny when you all get nothing….Illinois is badly in debt…what state does Obama represent? that’s right a state that is so far in debt they will never get out. So I guess we have that to look forward to

Posted by: truth1 | October 8, 2008, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm

I find McCain’s repetitive use of “my friends” more patronizing. I find his choice of a running mate more insulting. I find it more offensive for McCain to imply that Obama, who has been campaigning for almost two years now, is somehow a scary terrorist. A campaign of innuendos, presumptions, and character attacks does not sit well with voters who are more scared about keeping their jobs and retirement savings.

Posted by: Center One | October 8, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm

Breanna you do my heart good. Thoughtful and insightful post.

Posted by: Idahogirl | October 8, 2008, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm

For those who don’t know, to refer to a Black man or woman as “that one” is almost as insulting as using the dreaded “nword” or calling a man a “boy” or a woman “girl” or “gal”
The geezer knows that, he is of that generation who learned those words as part of the segregated America we had at the time of his birth.
He is using racial code words that those who follow his thinking will understand.

Posted by: NatFrankie | October 8, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm

You know…I thought it was just me…but then I heard the news media report it on the noon news today…When McCain said “…that one”, I was really taken aback. I thought it was unprofessional. Then he went on to refer to himself as “me”. I was amazed at that reference too. For a highly educated man with so much experience, there was certainly a more dignified way for him to make his point.

Posted by: Mackie Harris | October 8, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm

“THAT ONE” FOR PRESIDENT!

Posted by: rhbate | October 8, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm

This has nothing to do with all or nothing my friend.
We (take all or nothing) American tax payers just bailed our President of the United States out of a grand total of $700 Billion dollars in the worse crisis in history.
What COUNTRY does President Bush represent.

Posted by: Breanna | October 8, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm

I didn’t see it as racist. I saw it as repugnantly arrogant and petulant. Screw you, you old man who was once a hero but is now nothing but a fading fraud.

Posted by: American Patriot | October 8, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm

So at best it was disrespectful and at worst racist. It caught my attention when he said it and the overtones it brings even as a Northern whitey. I want to give McCain the benefit of the doubt wish he would have prefaced it better by asking “which senator voted for it and which against?”. He was trying to talk too fast most of the debate and hopefully in his haste to make his point he set it up badly. Either way I don’t think it will matter in the end.

Posted by: ES | October 8, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm

LOOKS LIKE SENILITY HAS GOTTEN HOLD OF OLD MAN MCCAIN–HOPE THEY GOT THAT BED AT THE NURSING HOME READY FOR HIM!
OBAMA/BIDEN08
GOOD RIDDENCE MCCAIN/PALIN

Posted by: terryswifey | October 8, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm

Did you see McCain refuse to shake hands with “That one?”
Just G-O-O-G-L-E “No Obama handshake.”

Posted by: rhbate | October 8, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm

‘Obama Not Presidential’?
This is the new ad from McCain.
How Dare McCain try to go this extreme?
Watching the debate yesterday, I noticed one thing that looked like (past) presidential – that was McCain’s SKIN COLOR!
Other than McCain’s skin color, that man looked like one ready to step in a box – his body parts looked like frozen, looked much beyond his age, and his debate was absolutely non-cohesive, declaring his age and beyond. He did not answer a single question straight, always started blaming Sen. Obama.
If McCain thinks he can convince the majority of Americans that Obama is Not Presidential, that remark is going to come back to himself with more venom.

Posted by: Jim, Texas | October 8, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm

To the poster who wrote that Sarah Palin will be a great Christian President: newsflash: Sarah Palin make Christians everywhere cringe that she is such an idiot and makes those who identify themselves as Christian hide their heads in shame every time she opens her mouth. BTW, have you seen your local witchdoctor lately?

Posted by: American Patriot | October 8, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm

Let’s focus on the real stuff guys, they shook hands very first thing at the end of the debate, why do you think Tom had to ask them to move out of the way? There is even a picture of them shaking hands at the end, check out CNN and Time online.
Let’s get back to who could do the better job. Oh and if you think Mrs. Obama was not introduced to Mrs. McCain you aren’t paying attention again, they have met several times and they also spoke to each other. Again, a little research for that minor stuff and let’s get to what really matters. Who is best suited to be the president.

Posted by: singlemomvoting | October 8, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm

Sen. McCain looked totally confused during the entire debate. His answers were not cohesive at all, if he answered any question.
Sen. McCain was consistent and cohesive in hammering one theme throughout the debate, and he did that when answering every question, and it went like this:
‘Everything that went wrong during the last 8 years and everything that is going wrong now in this country is the fault of Sen. Obama (and his cronies!)’
Based on my memory, and also on the PBS flashback after this debate, considering all presidential debates from the Carter/Regan debate, no presidential candidate has ever sunk as low as Sen. McCain did during this debate.
I felt that Sen. Obama was compelled to go down to the level of Sen. McCain when he was falsely accused after every question, and looked frustrated. Even then he kept his poise and certain level of decency, and was extremely gracious in ‘correcting’ Sen. McCain, rather than throwing back blames. At this time of the campaign, independents like me may have already sorted out the merits of both candidates, and Sen. Obama should not have to defend the vague and false allegations from the Republicans, at any level. Only Sen. McCain will be damaging more of his standing by the on-going dirty tricks from his camp.

Posted by: Jim, Texas | October 8, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm

I thought it was offensive and a veiled racist comment…if he had said “those ones” referring to a group of black people, or a group of women, obviously it would be considered racist or sexist. Given the smears and attacks on Obama’s character that have been propagated of late by McCain and his airheaded coward of a running mate, it can only be read as offensive. And when McCain says, “my friends” it sure doesn’t seem friendly. There is sometime plainly hostile and condescending in McCain’s body language (no eye contact) and remarks that speak volumes about his “character.”

Posted by: Valerie | October 8, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm

At last we are at the bottom. The last line of defense for the Democrats. Race… It’s the only way they can win. Forget that Obama is a Socialist, forget that he has very little respect for this country, forget his lack of effective leadership, forget his lack of experience, forget that he’s a liberal.. Let’s stir up some Race mongering and make McCain look bad. Shame shame shame on such a disgusting tactic.

Posted by: Dandydon | October 8, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm

I think McCain had pooped his pants before the debate. Every time he sat down there was a grimace on his face and a squooch sound. Cindy apparently doesn’t like that job and good help is hard to find.

Posted by: rhbate | October 8, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm

I don’t think it is racist or even very rude. It does further McCains image as a cranky, doddering old man. As Kieth Olberman (sp?) said, he performance last night can be summed up with, “Hey, you kids! Get off my lawn!”

Posted by: Mac | October 8, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm

McCain is an honorable guy and deserves the benefit of the doubt on “That one.”
Politically, though, it was a big mistake. The comment sounded like something your cranky, not-all-there grandpa would say.
And as much as you might love Grandpa, you don’t want him running the country.

Posted by: jpr | October 8, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm

McCain has a black daughter.
McCain was referring to that candidate voted for the energy bill this candidate didn’t vote for it.
McCain uses this reference all the time.
He was talking about their votes.
That candidate Obama voted for this candidate didn’t vote for it referring to himself.
It was a comparison.
McCain has been destroyed by the media with distortions and lies.
The media has destroyed McCain with lies.

Posted by: Jeff | October 8, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm

“That one” is a dismissive comment.
MCCain appears to have little respect for Obama.
It’s ok if MCCain does not like Obama. Does his reference mean he has a KKK robe at home? Not neccesarily.
Does his reference mean he views Obama as less than human? I would say so.
His choice of words, “That one” was referring to Obama the man though…not his voting stand, his political affiliaton or party doctrine. He was referring to him the person. “That one” voted for the Bush energy bill. He pointed to Obama.
Any time you refer to someone by their race, religion, sex, orientation, etc. when addressing the person and YOU KNOW THIER NAME… it is dismissive and rude.
Maybe MCCain has to view Obama as less than himself in order to stay in the fight?

Posted by: watchingclosely | October 8, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm

UNLESS I AM WRONG THERE IS NO…..BLACK…..MAN RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT THERE IS A BI-RACIAL MAN AND A WHITE MAN. THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A BLACK MAN RUN. IF THERE HAS PLEASE TELL ME WHO IT IS BECAUSE I HAVE NEVER SEEN IT.

Posted by: 1nana23 | October 8, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm

Dandydon said “The last line of defense for the Democrats. Race… It’s the only way they can win. Forget that Obama is a Socialist, forget that he has very little respect for this country,..”———Actually, the LAST LINE OF DEFENSE IS CHARACTER ASSASINATION FROM THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. They are LOSING by 8-9 points!!! LOL, you don’t get it do you?? The ONLY thing you guys have left is slander.
McCain wants to TAX health benefits. I would say that he doesn’t care about Americans and their health.
McCain doesn’t care about the debt.
McCain is a degregulator. He was part of the Keating 5. He is rude and condescending.
He sold his soul to the religious right.
McCain wil lose the election. Get used cto calling Obama Mr President buddy. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: independent 4 Obama | October 8, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm

I think McCain had pooped his pants before the debate. Every time he sat down there was a grimace on his face and a squooch sound. Cindy apparently doesn’t like the job of changing his Depends and good help is hard to find.

Posted by: rhbate | October 8, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm

I think McCain had pooped his pants before the debate. Every time he sat down there was a grimace on his face and a squooch sound. Cindy apparently doesn’t like the job of changing his Depends and good help is hard to find.

Posted by: rhbate | October 8, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm

Referring to Barak Obama as “that one” is insulting and objectifying — and subtly racist. Before the Civil War, slave owners used similar tactics to strip the humanity from slaves, both to quell their own conscience and to “keep them in their place.” Shame on McCain! Shame on Palin and anyone who uses this phrase!

Posted by: Anne | October 8, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm

UNLESS I AM WRONG THERE IS NO…..BLACK…..MAN RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT THERE IS A BI-RACIAL MAN AND A WHITE MAN. THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A BLACK MAN RUN. IF THERE HAS PLEASE TELL ME WHO IT IS BECAUSE I HAVE NEVER SEEN IT.

Posted by: 1nana23 | October 8, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm

When he said; “That one,” he really wanted to say that N—–.

Posted by: rhbate | October 8, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

I’m not a McCain fan, but I don’t think he meant “That One” as a racist remark. He either forgot Obama’s name or he was just being himself in expressing his consuming disdain for his oppponent. Neither reason makes for presidential material. Obama, on the other hand, was cool, calm, articulate and presidential.

Posted by: annaloh | October 8, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm

UNLESS I AM WRONG THERE IS NO…..BLACK…..MAN RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT THERE IS A BI-RACIAL MAN AND A WHITE MAN. THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A BLACK MAN RUN. IF THERE HAS PLEASE TELL ME WHO IT IS BECAUSE I HAVE NEVER SEEN IT.

Posted by: 1nana23 | October 8, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm

Very racist and extremely rude.
McCain is old hat. Hopefully America can see through his chicanery.

Posted by: Michael | October 8, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

Very racist and extremely rude.
McCain is old hat. Hopefully America can see through his chicanery.

Posted by: Michael | October 8, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

That one is the one, first ever to be bought by illegal money parted and parceled into untraceable small amount in conjunction with a 90% black vote to knock Hillary to earn that one a berth in this presidential election.

Posted by: Obama-Yah-Wright | October 8, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm

I am not a Southern black person, but I know the meaning of “That one”…it is denegrating not only to blacks but to everyone. Some posters say it’s the Obama campaign trying to make something out of nothing…BUT IT IS SOMETHING. In recent days, the McCain camp has been stirring up racial hate at rallies. How dare they!!!
It’s time to have some one of intelligence in the White House, who isn’t going to shoot first and ask questions later.
If I was a Republican, McCain’s Health Care Plan would be enough for me to vote for Obama. What kind of plan does he think a $5000 tax credit is going to buy? And, for low income families a $5000 credit is meaningless since in most cases their taxes would be less than $5000.

Posted by: Liz | October 8, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm

I am not a Southern black person, but I know the meaning of “That one”…it is denegrating not only to blacks but to everyone. Some posters say it’s the Obama campaign trying to make something out of nothing…BUT IT IS SOMETHING. In recent days, the McCain camp has been stirring up racial hate at rallies. How dare they!!!
It’s time to have some one of intelligence in the White House, who isn’t going to shoot first and ask questions later.
If I was a Republican, McCain’s Health Care Plan would be enough for me to vote for Obama. What kind of plan does he think a $5000 tax credit is going to buy? And, for low income families a $5000 credit is meaningless since in most cases their taxes would be less than $5000.

Posted by: Liz | October 8, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm

UNLESS I AM WRONG THERE IS NO…..BLACK…..MAN RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT THERE IS A BI-RACIAL MAN AND A WHITE MAN. THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A BLACK MAN RUN. IF THERE HAS PLEASE TELL ME WHO IT IS BECAUSE I HAVE NEVER SEEN IT.

Posted by: 1nana23 | October 8, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm

There is no question that McCain’s use of “that one” was an attempt to belittle and objectify Obama; it also revealed the anger and arrogance that simmer just below McCain’s surface. I was born and spent a portion of my life in Mississippi, and I heard in that comment, the same tone of voice and attitude toward Afro-Americans that I’ve heard in some Deep Southerners, as in: “that n*****!”

Posted by: Jeff | October 8, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm

I do think it was an offensive and rude way to address a fellow politician and fellow presidential nominee. Obama is a repsectable politician just like McCain and should be addressed as such. I don’t think “that one” was overtly racist, but I can see how it would get that connotation – bottom line McCain should watch his mouth. Especially at this point in the race with his campaign struggling – and to me it seemed more like McCain’s desperation and anger towards the fact that his campaign isn’t doing well. It just shows how out-of-touch he is and how he let his anger toward Obama get the best of him. It was low, overly political, and a lame attempt at disrespecting Obama and discrediting him. McCain really has no way to make up for that blunder but it owes it to Obama and the American people to apologize.

Posted by: Kimberly | October 8, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm

So happy people watching this “farce of a town hall debate” with, in my opinion, bought and paid for by McCain campaign Tom Brokow as moderator. I thought I was the only one who noticed how Tom Brokow indulged John McCain and only mentioned “time” when Senator Obama was about to speak. Tom Brokow, in my opinion, is just another “grumpy old white man.” who, in my opinion is really “that one.” Personally, I can’t stand Mr. Brokaw. Hope Mr. Brokaw will no longer be moderating Meet the Press. Tim Russert, I really miss you.

Posted by: Shirley Jackson | October 8, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm

McCain talked of ‘clouds in the sky’ instead of the rain on the ground.
He talked of the ‘danger of floods’, but failed to see the dam break.
He cries of corporate greed but fails to give the people a lifeboat – instead giving tax breaks to shore up the foundations of the skyscrapers, where he sits and looks down upon the flood…
And somehow he thinks he is connected to the common people because his Hummer floated away.

Posted by: HeyYou | October 8, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm

Just to elaborate, if the hatred, cultural enmity and racial anger that McCain and Palin are attempting to stir up result in right-wing violence, then both of them will be complicit. This is *not* the direction a campaign for the presidency of the United States of America should go.

Posted by: Jeff | October 8, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm

Does anyone remember when President GHW Bush made the comment about one of his grandchildren that is half-Mexican? He referred to the child as “the brown one”. He got lots of criticism over that comment. The same goes for John McCain calling Barack Obama “that one”. It is offensive, plain and simple!

Posted by: Lydia | October 8, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm

lol THAT BOY OVER THERE! LOL
Oh and this one is classic. To the African American asking about the economy: “I’m sure you never heard of Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac before this election.” LOL
WHAT A DOUCHE!
I would have said:
“NA AH SAR, I AINT NEVER HEA NOTHING BOUT NEITHER THEM DOMINATING MORGAGE BROKARS SAH!” LOL ROTFL!!
I can’t wait till Dave Chappele gets his hands on this one!!!!!!

Posted by: zfirpo | October 8, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm

UNLESS I AM WRONG THERE IS NO…..BLACK…..MAN RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT THERE IS A BI-RACIAL MAN AND A WHITE MAN. THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A BLACK MAN RUN. IF THERE HAS PLEASE TELL ME WHO IT IS BECAUSE I HAVE NEVER SEEN IT.

Posted by: 1nana23 | October 8, 2008, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm

I wonder why McCain would ASSUME Oliver (young black male who posed the second question) would not of know Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac before this crisis?
McCain: “But you know, one of the real catalysts, really the match that lit this fire was Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. I’ll bet you, you may never even have heard of them before this crisis.”
That, in combination with the “that one”, and the constant “my friend” remarks, made listening to him just creepy!
Interestingly, reading the fact-checker sites and their stats, so far the Obama campaign has been much more truthful than the McCain campaign. Guess it’s no surprise.

Posted by: cmarie | October 8, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm

The Obama campaign was sending emails to every news media within a few minutes of the debate ending last night complaining about the “that one” comment–once again playing the race card. Sad…

Posted by: reality801 | October 8, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm

Thanks to the politically-correct police for protecting us from this invidious danger. If not for them, I wouldn’t know when to be enraged by a seemingly innocent remark. My pension may be falling and my job may be endangered, but there is someone out there protecting me from demonstartive adjectives.

Posted by: Marty | October 8, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm

UNLESS I AM WRONG THERE IS NO…..BLACK…..MAN RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT THERE IS A BI-RACIAL MAN AND A WHITE MAN. THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A BLACK MAN RUN. IF THERE HAS PLEASE TELL ME WHO IT IS BECAUSE I HAVE NEVER SEEN IT.

Posted by: 1nana23 | October 8, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm

Who is the better person for the job? Smarter, more competent and more in tune with the people of the USA. It has NOTHING to do with race. Most of us have moved past that decades ago (at least here in Canada)
We support Obama up here.

Posted by: PaulinVanc | October 8, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm

I’m voting for Obama but even I will admit that’s the one time this whole campaign McCain has every been charming. That was just some good comic relief.
“That one” votes for any bill that’s “loaded with goodies” like he’s a gullible child with a sweet tooth. Obama should laugh it off.

Posted by: chris | October 8, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm

Angelo wrote,
“McCain did asked “which Senator voted for it?”, and then answered his own question by saying, “That one.”
That’s exactly what it means.”
Just for the record, you’re incorrect. McCain’s actual quote was, “You know who voted for it? You might never know– that one. You know who voted against it? Me.”

Posted by: FactCheck | October 8, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm

I grew up around racists in redneck part of Colorado and since dont go back there very much. Old men in town who still use the n word to reference blacks also love to take a little jab by using, secretly encoded, so they think, as “that one”. McCain, you are an old, racist man. The blatant racists I know all support you.

Posted by: Ben | October 8, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm

Ben, I think it is more about disrespect. I don’t believe McCain was making a racist remark, just a rude one.
And blatant racists have to support *someone*, and I doubt it would be Barack.

Posted by: FactCheck | October 8, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm

Posted by: mrmoonpie | October 8, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm

the so call great leaders has already put the American people in a deep hole .No president if he does not take the bull by the horn and step way from traditional policies that only favors the elite few can save America. No empire last for ever and as one speaker says” the American way of life has a shelf life” and its close the the end. the mess that is due for cleaning will last more than one presidential term. Its the deceived sleeping American people that can change the faith of america.

Posted by: royal | October 8, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm

The reason why McCain is not like among his own party people in the past is not that he is different but he is arrogant and conceited. He has very little respect for others. That is what we are witnessing now. He is well past of his age and time for the presidency. Americans are in a paradigm shift and McCain doesn’t belong to the future.

Posted by: abumesh | October 8, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm

UNLESS I AM WRONG THERE IS NO…..BLACK…..MAN RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT THERE IS A BI-RACIAL MAN AND A WHITE MAN. THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A BLACK MAN RUN. IF THERE HAS PLEASE TELL ME WHO IT IS BECAUSE I HAVE NEVER SEEN IT.
Posted by: 1nana23 | Oct 8, 2008 2:19:16 PM
___________________
There has never been a bi-racial man run for president either. Also, please be advised that practically every so-called black person in this country is bi-racial. How many pure Africans have you seen?

Posted by: rhbate | October 8, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm

staniam: FYI I’m 46 so your theory that I’m so young that I belittle “older” folks like you doesn’t hold water. I stand by MY observation and MY opinion. McCain acted like a bitter man and looked like an old man. You say I’m a bigot. I say you’re an idiot.

Posted by: Julie | October 8, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm

Another day, another baseless cry of “racism” by the Obama camp. Imagine four year of that nonsense? Everytime “The One” gets some heat, some puppet pops up to claim it’s racism at work?

Posted by: Stan | October 8, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm

This one will vote for that one that won. That one’s a good one.
McCain and his sidekick Palin (or is it the other way around?) are becoming more unhinged by the hour.

Posted by: rogerthomas | October 8, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm

“That one” for all,
and all for “That one.”

Posted by: rhbate | October 8, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm

Racist? You’ve gotta be kidding me. Let’s all make a big deal out of NOTHING and ignore all the important issues at hand, just like we do everyday. America’s going down the crapper fast and it’s you people who complain about stupid things like this that are making it all happen.

Posted by: Ben | October 8, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

Has anyone seen Palin’s witchcraft video? What a psycho? This is better??
Has anyone heard McSane’s preacher? Calling the killing of Jews act of God??
This is better? The cheater, liar, fraud, loser, racist, old, moron will NOT run this country? Obama/Biden 364 McCain/Palin 174 Clear politics.. What a landslide!! McSane can’t even keep the red states while our real HERO is gaining in blue states and gaining the red states at the same time. Muslims are bad eh; Sorry Obama is not a Muslim. But you nutcases in Christianity are the real crazy ones. Remember the Oklahoma bombing?? Killing or hurting 1000 people? Who caused that? Yeah? I fear fundamentals of all religions.. Religion is a becoming a joke. Watch Religulous, explains what a joke this thing has become. We need sane, thoughtful, non FUNDAMENTAL people for our leaders.

Posted by: Republicansareidiots | October 8, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

Has anyone seen Palin’s witchcraft video? What a psycho? This is better??
Has anyone heard McSane’s preacher? Calling the killing of Jews act of God??
This is better? The cheater, liar, fraud, loser, racist, old, moron will NOT run this country? Obama/Biden 364 McCain/Palin 174 Clear politics.. What a landslide!! McSane can’t even keep the red states while our real HERO is gaining in blue states and gaining the red states at the same time. Muslims are bad eh; Sorry Obama is not a Muslim. But you nutcases in Christianity are the real crazy ones. Remember the Oklahoma bombing?? Killing or hurting 1000 people? Who caused that? Yeah? I fear fundamentals of all religions.. Religion is a becoming a joke. Watch Religulous, explains what a joke this thing has become. We need sane, thoughtful, non FUNDAMENTAL people for our leaders.

Posted by: Republicansareidiots | October 8, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

Give us all a break – some try to make a racist remark out of every word/phrase in the dictionary – absurd.
If Obama gets elected, within a year most of the fools who vote for him will be crying about the mistake that was made. McCain isn’t the perfect choice, but as compared to Obama – well Obama will make even Jimmy Carter look good.
This election is going to be close – if the Dems lose – they are already dusting off the news headlines- ‘we wuz robbed.’

Posted by: Bob Rocklin | October 8, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm

Obama may very well win this election what with sickos like Republicansare idiots voting for him. This guy needs serious medication. Amazed he can even log ontot the internet – then again probably his attending nurse does it for him.

Posted by: bob rocklin | October 8, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm

McCain did not refer to himself as “this one.” He said, “me!” So all those idiots out there that are hiding behind the story that he referred to Obama as “that senator” are full of crap. McCain does not even give Obama the respect of looking him in the eye! Always looking off to one side when he shakes his hand. You may not want to call it “racism” but he certainly thinks he is “above” Obama. NEWS FLASH!!! My vote goes to “THAT ONE!”

Posted by: Lisa | October 8, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm

100% of the current McCain/Palin ads are negative ads. 0% percent are on the issues.

Posted by: rhbate | October 8, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm

Rocklin, what did I say that was wrong? Religion is the evil of wars..
Wow didn’t even know that you can get internet in a trailer home.
Your favorite game, chasing after your chicken with mud your face while calling your “ma” Go Google redneck pictures and you will how stupid and retarded you actually look.
Obama is the best choice, sorry he is half black though. You really think the KKK’s and skinheads running around like morons disappeared?? They were suits and come to Republican rallies, calling to kill Obama.. Who’s sick now???

Posted by: Republicansareidiots | October 8, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm

Rocklin, what did I say that was wrong? Religion is the evil of wars..
Wow didn’t even know that you can get internet in a trailer home.
Your favorite game, chasing after your chicken with mud your face while calling your “ma” Go Google redneck pictures and you will see how stupid and retarded you actually look.
Obama is the best choice, sorry he is half black though. You really think the KKK’s and skinheads running around like morons disappeared?? They wear suits and come to Republican rallies, calling to kill Obama.. Who’s sick now???

Posted by: Republicansareidiots | October 8, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm

“THAT ONE” merch: http://cli.gs/2GPsZm

Posted by: George | October 8, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm

It is not a big deal that Obama was called ‘that one’. Mccain just said that because earlier in the election Obama was intently criticizing him.Besides at least he has a plan. What’s Obama’s besides raising taxes? Look at the facts he uses way to much ‘past’ and ‘present’ tense but McCain uses ‘future’ tense thus being more reliable on a plan for America.

Posted by: Brooke | October 8, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm

It is not a big deal that Obama was called ‘that one’. Mccain just said that because earlier in the election Obama was intently criticizing him.Besides at least he has a plan. What’s Obama’s besides raising taxes? Look at the facts he uses way to much ‘past’ and ‘present’ tense but McCain uses ‘future’ tense thus being more reliable on a plan for America.

Posted by: Brooke | October 8, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm

I’m white and I found the remark to be racially charged. Not surprising from McShame.

Posted by: realpeople | October 8, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm

So what is McSane’s plan?? “Sorry I can’t win on this thing called economy, I will call “that one” names like a little retarded rEPUBLICAN MORON.”
Giving tax breaks to 95% will hurt people?? Donald Trump, your days of escaping paying taxes are gone. Oil companies DITTO. Cheney’s companies DITTO.. 8 years is enough!! McSane looked like a little angry mad man last night.. No substance, loved Obama’s smiles thinking “this guy is an idiot”. Where is the Palin” I can see Russia from my window” Pig?? American needs change, the world needs a change!!

Posted by: Republicansareidiots | October 8, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm

“That one” isn’t racist? It was akin to calling SENATOR OBAMA (his title) “boy” or “those kind of people” All of those phrases are akin to using the ‘N” word in a more socially adept or allegedly polite way. There is NO question of Senator MCCain’s intent—he used the ultimately degrading turn of phrase that was basically a directed racial invective. No question about it, and I am white–the intent was clear–make Senator Obama to be less of a candidate, and less of a man. Jim Crow lives in 2008–how disgusting and vile does the Republican Party have to get when they are behind in an Election. In the future, Mr.McCain will have to use Mr. Obama’s propter title: Mr President.
“THAT ONE in 2008″

Posted by: David | October 8, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm

You know, I am black and what McCain said was not racist. People need to get off it and stop trying so hard to pen everyone racist! This is why I am not supporting Obama because his campaign has been playing daughter and always wants to play the victim.
Get back to the issues! Obama campaign, stop acting like babies.Grow up! and actually take your own advice about not playing into “distractions”.

Posted by: ashley | October 8, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm

Dear Lynne: What do you mean by “You People?”

Posted by: Kelly | October 8, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm

I have no clue as to why people will vote for McCain. No idea… I would like to have a President that is full of energy, that can work a 20 hour day without fear of having a stroke,a President that has vision. McCain is not “The One” Ladies and Gentleman. The problem is that we still have these hard headed conservatives that rather be hung by they’re eye lids than to have a Black President in office… People may not want to admit but it certainly goes through they’re mind without question. Sarah Palin VP… Please !!! Don’t insult our intelligence…. Oh wait a minute, we still have these back fence hill billies that can’t compute with intelligence… White is right…

Posted by: ASton DIaz | October 8, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm

This is ridiculous! “that one”, people get over yourselves. I am a black man raised in the South and there are many words “old white folk” called black men and women. We can’t keep causing a stir every time we here a word and try to make someone look like a bigot, or racist. That man spent seven years in a concentration camp for that one and this one. Poorly delivered yes, racist no!

Posted by: caleb | October 8, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm

Referring to a fellow candidate for public office in any context as “that one” is nothing short of rude and demeaning. Since it came from McCain, who still refers to Asians as “gooks” and probably worse in private, I think the reference to Obama as “that one” gave us a peak at a hatred and hostility that goes deeper than politics, but no deeper than pigmentation.

Posted by: Giovanni | October 8, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm

Obama also referred to McCain standing next to him as ‘this guy’. What does the MSM and the Obamamaniacs think of that?

Posted by: real story | October 8, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm

HAHA. What cracks me up is this comment:
“Posted by: susan | Oct 7, 2008 11:41:58 PM
Obama’s cult followers often refer to him as “The One.”
Leave it to those Kool-Aid drinkers to find a problem with someone creating a slight variation on their term”.
________
Man O Man. John McCain’s comment wasn’t even meant to be racist. I don’t like McCain one bit…but jeez. This chic is ALL WRONG lol. As I recall it was the christian right wing that labeled Obama as the one. It is a biblical reference to the Anti-Christ. Also, last I checked Kool Aid was a drink powder invented in the 1930′s by Edwin Perkins, a white man from Nebraska, that was cheap an easy to make and was only sold in white stores! I’m pretty sure that means white people were drinking it too…oh wait, except you. You must have switched over to Hater-Aide…or Racist Bigot with 100% Vitamin C**T.

Posted by: Marcel | October 8, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm

Caleb how many old white folk do you think. Used the that one statement doing sunday picnics. For their sunday picnic lynchings. Brother you are sick.

Posted by: parrada | October 8, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm

Caleb how many old white folk do you think. Used the that one statement doing sunday picnics. For their sunday picnic lynchings. Brother you are sick.

Posted by: parrada | October 8, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm

Hey, Laura, Hanna, & anyone else who thinks “That One” means nothing. So sorry, but it means you know “nothing.” “That One” is a major, big time, insult. As, one earlier comment pointed out it’s a derogatory way older white people refer to black people without having to say their name (being older & from the south, I know). It’s also often used in debates when you want to show disrespect to your opponent. Sen. McCain, whom I’ve greatly admired from the early 70s until last year (I’m also ex-Navy), now reminds me of Tommy in the movie “O, Brother, Where Art Thou?”. Tommy supposedly sold his soul to the devil so he could play the guitar “real good”. Sen. McCain wants to be president so much that he’s sold his to the conservative base. After the election of Sen. Obama, Sen. McCain should just retire as he’ll have no friends on capital hill, no clout, & no one will trust him again. A 72 yr old man who has a 50% chance of not surviving another 4 yrs chooses Gov. Cheerleader/Avon Lady, (who like the current president, doesn’t read newspapers. She couldn’t tell Katie Curic the name of even one paper she’s read, & couldn’t even name one recent US Supreme Court decision) just reinforces the observation that he’s not just a little out of touch, he’s way out of touch. Bollox.

Posted by: jo-barry | October 8, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm

Hey, Laura, Hanna, & anyone else who thinks “That One” means nothing. So sorry, but it means you know “nothing.” “That One” is a major, big time, insult. As, one earlier comment pointed out it’s a derogatory way older white people refer to black people without having to say their name (being older & from the south, I know). It’s also often used in debates when you want to show disrespect to your opponent. Sen. McCain, whom I’ve greatly admired from the early 70s until last year (I’m also ex-Navy), now reminds me of Tommy in the movie “O, Brother, Where Art Thou?”. Tommy supposedly sold his soul to the devil so he could play the guitar “real good”. Sen. McCain wants to be president so much that he’s sold his to the conservative base. After the election of Sen. Obama, Sen. McCain should just retire as he’ll have no friends on capital hill, no clout, & no one will trust him again. A 72 yr old man who has a 50% chance of not surviving another 4 yrs chooses Gov. Cheerleader/Avon Lady, (who like the current president, doesn’t read newspapers. She couldn’t tell Katie Curic the name of even one paper she’s read, & couldn’t even name one recent US Supreme Court decision) just reinforces the observation that he’s not just a little out of touch, he’s way out of touch. Bollox.

Posted by: jo-barry | October 8, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm

McCain’s statement is completely in character. He has made MANY disparaging statements about people over the years. In fact, I think it’s odd that more of those incidents haven’t been brought up by the so-called “Obama-bent” press.
(TO be honest, I’ve always wondered whether it was true or just a rumor that McCain called his wife a name that rhymes with “blunt.”

Posted by: pasc | October 8, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm

Is this fair? Cry of racism for innocent words. I hope it back fires on Obama’s supporters. I think it is unfair to have Obama on the democratic ticket because he is half black. We know clearly Clinton would have been a better candidate!!

Posted by: Advantage | October 8, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm

Something like that is to be expected from McCain and Palin. The whole campaign is upset that no matter what kind of mud they sling at Obama, it never sticks. McCain can’t understand how this young man is beating at a gmae he thought he OWNED!! Calling Obama “THAT ONE” just shows how much he really does not like or respect Obama. That is cool, because after this campaign I seriously doubt anyone will respect McCain anymore.
Obama/Biden 08

Posted by: Francheska | October 8, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm

And I guess that makes me a racist too…b/c I disagree with democratic ticket.

Posted by: Advantage | October 8, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm

Innocent words are not slyly trying to say say that Obama is a terrorist. Innocent words do not garner replies of “terrorist” and “kill him”, which is what happened during a Palin speech. These are not innocent words. These are back hand attempts to diminish Obama, but, funny how these attempts have only diminished McCain and Palin. I understand that the Secret Service is now in involved because of the “kill him” threat that was spoken during the last “rally”. ;-)

Posted by: Margie | October 8, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm

My point is let’s not give anyone an advantage because of their race. As I am a minority, I am proud to see someone representing us and giving us hope. But, I strongly believe we should play a fair game.

Posted by: Advantage | October 8, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm

“That One” is a black mark on Mccain because it was probably just the tip of the iceberg.
A “slip” like that is probably an inkling of the hate that Mccain harbours for Obama, and possibly non-WASPS. I know he doesn’t like Asians (look up his post-war comments after Vietnam). The man is out of touch with the world and reality, why we want another nut running Washington.

Posted by: Eric | October 8, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm

Please people, you all know that what McCain did by pointing his finger at Obama and saying “that one” is down right dis-respectful. Not harsh enough to be a racist remark, but as rude as they come. Think about it… If you’re talking about somdebody you know, “person A,” to your friends, and “person A” is in the room watching you, you’re not going to refer to him as “that one” and then point at him without even looking at him. If you do, then he doesn’t amount to anything in your book.
I’m offended by it because McCain has no respect for his opponent. Obama won the primaries and earned the trust of millions of people to get to where he is. McCain won’t even look him in the eye or acknowledge him as a legitiment person. Like Obama isn’t worth his time. If McCain’s emotional hate for Obama is so strong, then he doesn’t have the temperment to be the next president. Quite frankly I don’t feel comfortable with a man who runs a dis-honest, smearing campaign in the first place. I’ve lost my respect and support for McCain; My vote will go for “that one” in NOV.

Posted by: Drew | October 8, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm

Please people, you all know that what McCain did by pointing his finger at Obama and saying “that one” is down right dis-respectful. Not harsh enough to be a racist remark, but as rude as they come. Think about it… If you’re talking about somdebody you know, “person A,” to your friends, and “person A” is in the room watching you, you’re not going to refer to him as “that one” and then point at him without even looking at him. If you do, then he doesn’t amount to anything in your book.
I’m offended by it because McCain has no respect for his opponent. Obama won the primaries and earned the trust of millions of people to get to where he is. McCain won’t even look him in the eye or acknowledge him as a legitiment person. Like Obama isn’t worth his time. If McCain’s emotional hate for Obama is so strong, then he doesn’t have the temperment to be the next president. Quite frankly I don’t feel comfortable with a man who runs a dis-honest, smearing campaign in the first place. I’ve lost my respect and support for McCain; My vote will go for “that one” in NOV.

Posted by: Drew | October 8, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm

War hero came back disfigured and deformed psychologically. “Life owed him, he believed. He dumped his wife Cindy and got him a rich young woman. He expects to be awarded the Presidency. And to think “that one” this darkie, this newcomer, this better educated newcomer is going to win!!!!! I won’t look at him and dignify him.

Posted by: Lou | October 8, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm

I’m so glad that all of you Obama supporters are so concerned about civility that the statement “that one” seems completely outside the range of acceptable.
? – What have you yourselves called Governor Palin??
Lemme just check to see if this “offense radar” is working when it applies to you, reporters you listen to, people around you, or if it’s all relative depending on who is saying what to whom.
If I had seen civility from any one of you – your tender sensitivities would really mean something.
I mean, if it really mattered if a candidate is treated with respect.
“That one” isn’t even disrespectful.

Posted by: laura d | October 8, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm

I’m so glad that all of you Obama supporters are so concerned about civility that the statement “that one” seems completely outside the range of acceptable.
? – What have you yourselves called Governor Palin??
Lemme just check to see if this “offense radar” is working when it applies to you, reporters you listen to, people around you, or if it’s all relative depending on who is saying what to whom.
If I had seen civility from any one of you – your tender sensitivities would really mean something.
I mean, if it really mattered if a candidate is treated with respect.
“That one” isn’t even disrespectful.

Posted by: laura d | October 8, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm

You can tell when a poster is black. They are the ones that are the most disrespectful.

Posted by: jim | October 8, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm

You can tell when a poster is black. They are the ones that are the most disrespectful.

Posted by: jim | October 8, 2008, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm

The way Senator McCain openly shows disrespect for Senator Obama makes me wonder HOW MUCH WORSE he probably says when speaking only amongst family and close friends. I really can fathom that he frequently uses the ‘N’ word. Many from his older generation do.
Speaking of ‘older’ generation- I do think John McCain is just too old to be our president. This is the 21st Century-
he doesn’t even know how to use a computer. His generation have had their time – lets pass the baton to the younger, more vibrant candidates.
John McCain would make a great ambassador somewhere- just not our country’s president.

Posted by: Old Woman | October 8, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm

The way Senator McCain openly shows disrespect for Senator Obama makes me wonder HOW MUCH WORSE he probably says when speaking only amongst family and close friends. I really can fathom that he frequently uses the ‘N’ word. Many from his older generation do.
Speaking of ‘older’ generation- I do think John McCain is just too old to be our president. This is the 21st Century-
he doesn’t even know how to use a computer. His generation have had their time – lets pass the baton to the younger, more vibrant candidates.
John McCain would make a great ambassador somewhere- just not our country’s president.

Posted by: Old Woman | October 8, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm

“That One” is rude regardless of the context. Had Barack Obama said that can you imagine how much he would be criticized? How can an old white man say that and not be called racist or at least unprofessional or condescending?
McCain better think before he speaks!

Posted by: emdasher | October 8, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm

“That One” is rude regardless of the context. Had Barack Obama said that can you imagine how much he would be criticized? How can an old white man say that and not be called racist or at least unprofessional or condescending?
McCain better think before he speaks!

Posted by: emdasher | October 8, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm

I have never heard of “that one” being derogatory. But you want to talk about racism–how about the fact that 9 out of 10 blacks support Obama.

Posted by: Andrea | October 8, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm

To those who say he was saying “that one” didn’t, “this one” did…
Come on, guys. He said “You know who voted for it?” NOT “You know which one voted for it?”
Who implies a person.
THEN he said, “You know who voted against it? ME.” NOT “this one.”
So shut up.

Posted by: Matt | October 9, 2008, 1:15 am 1:15 am

that one and me TARZAN.

Posted by: parrada | October 9, 2008, 1:36 am 1:36 am

that one …..mcain it just cause you the presidence of the united states….it proved, you didnt understand what america is all about

Posted by: angelo | October 9, 2008, 2:15 am 2:15 am

It may be that McCain didn’t intend to be rude or racist with “that one”, but, combined with his tone of voice and body language the moment he said it, it was very rude and derogatory, to say the very least. Should we let it go and say it was just a gaffe? To me, it was like having your crotchety old uncle demean you in front of the family for doing something wrong. To some African-Americans, it was like using the ‘n’ word…should a man who wants to be President get a free pass on this?

Posted by: helas | October 9, 2008, 6:07 am 6:07 am

One of the first steps in hating is to dehumanize your opponent. McCain’s “That One” was a telling moment, but not something to overemphasize. He has struggled with his ways of expressing all kinds of things in his campaigning. To me, the much worse thing is the people at Palin rallies shouting, “Kill Obama,” or “Obama is a terrorist.” Palin is inciting that kind of talk, and then she is failing to point her finger at those people THEN AND THERE and say, “We don’t use hate talk in this campaign. If you want to use hate talk, I suggest you leave this rally.” Her failure (and McCain’s) to confront hate talk shows they hope to exploit hate for political advantage. I was glad to see that, just today, they came out against people introducing them using Barack Obama’s full name, and thus Muslim baiting. Why did it take so long to stand up on that simple issue? We need a new kind of campaigning and a new kind of politicians. McCain is the same ol’, same ol’.

Posted by: JAB | October 9, 2008, 7:38 am 7:38 am

through out this entire campaign Obama and the main stream media have been brain washing and bashing mc cain and linking him to bush. they have brought such comments to this election period throwing insults and negative ads at palin and mc cain —but that was ok? noooooo a higher up in the media and hate mongrals even said that bush should be killed and his head takren off.MY GOD WHAT ARE THEY TEACHING OUR YOUTH OF TODAY. but the story is the opposite when the actuall truth about obamas ties wih dispicable hateful anti – american anti white people are given to americans to let us know who he really is.

Posted by: MARIANN | October 9, 2008, 8:15 am 8:15 am

YOU SEE HATE IS WRONG!!!!!WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN DOING TO OUR CHILDREN IS SHOWING THEM THAT IT IS OK TO MOCK A GOVERNOR ON NATIONAL TV,IN EVERY MAGAZINE.IN EVERY NEWSPAPER ON EVERY TALK SHOW AND OUR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATE HAS BEEN DE MORALIZED AND DEGRADED AND CONSPERITIES AGAISNT HIM IN FRONT OF THESE ANIMAL NATIONS WHO WOULD CHOP US UP INTO LITTLE PIECES AND HAVE NO INTENTIONS OF PEACE WITH US.BUT WE CANT OUESTION WHO OBAMA REALLY IS.HE IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT AND WE BETTER DAMN WELL KNOW THR TRUTH .BUT YOU SEE WHAT THE MEDIA HAS DONE AND OBAMAS CAMPAIGN ?THEY KEEPING COVRING THE TRUTH BY THROWING INTO OUR MINDS THAT IT IS ALL MCC AIN ADS THAT ARE LIES. WOW THE TRUTH NEEDS TO COME OUT AND IF THE MEDIA DONT COVER THE TRUTH,IT BE BE BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS THAT OUT OF HATE FOR REPUBLICANS AND JUST WANTED A DEMOCRATIC IN NO MATTER WHAT AND WHO HE REALLY IS THEN THEN ARE JUST AS GUILTY AS HIM. THEY SHOULD HAVE FOUGHT FOR HILLARY TO GET NOMINATED ,

Posted by: MARIANN | October 9, 2008, 8:43 am 8:43 am

Can someone please give me a list of the names or phrases that we’re not allowed to use when referring to non-white people? The list seems to grow every day and I’m getting confused.
Better yet, give me a list of names and phrases that we CAN use. I’m sure that list will be shorter.
How you people…oops – I guess that was racist, too … can turn a simple phrase into a racial epithet is beyond my comprehension. Take my last statement, for example. I’m referring to you people in here, not an entire race of people. For goodness sake – can we stop being so thin skinned? I’d like for people to be able to say what they mean without having to worry about whether or not something is offensive.

Posted by: Zeeter | October 9, 2008, 8:58 am 8:58 am

I am still sick over that comment and the continuing racist rhetoric that is rampant these days.
As a child of the 60′s and having lived through many horrible things and political atrociaties I am so fearful for Obama.
The Rebulicans are feeding all the sick Racist minds in our country. Who knows where this might lead.
People in power must stop this!Stop the negative news!
If you want to talk about what’s good with this country, then let’s show it.
We are the laughing stock of the rest of the world, speaking of democracy, and showing anything but!
Everyone has to help stop this downward spiral, let’s concentrate on the real issues of the campaign. The economy being at the forefront.

Posted by: lorraine | October 9, 2008, 9:32 am 9:32 am

a person who have no future plans always sound childish and always has bad temper. dats what most of this McCain supporters do. COOL guys… we are about to introduce da new President of USA Sen. Obama…
racism is no use thats debatin no hatin

Posted by: Od. B. JUWA | October 9, 2008, 9:38 am 9:38 am

You all are uneducated idiots. I am an Italian/Korean American born in the US. I have been the victim of racism in Boston of all places. I have gotten the “ooohh, ahhh soooo saury” and the slant eyes remarks. And even when I was little, a black boy in the Smithsonian Institute asked another black boy if there was anyone in the bathroom, that black boy said “oh, some slanty chinese kid.” Mr. McCain was very respectful during the debate, thanked everyone for their questions, and obviously didn’t want to be repetitive with all the first person references. It’s kind of like a resume where you have to watch all your “I”‘s. I am also an American Veteran during Desert Storm and Bosnia. If Clinton did his job and treated the bombing of the Cole as an act of war (bombing a US Destroyer), we would have no need to be in the middle east now. All the vets from Desert Storm wanted to go back and get Saddam as early as 1994. My NCOIC has Gulf War Syndrome and still wants to go back to Saudi to this day. Wake up people. Did you all forget who holds the majority of the senate and house? DEMOCRATS!

Posted by: JayP | October 9, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am

Dear Fellow Voter:
How is it possible?
How could a man with the farthest-left voting record (in under 4 years) in the U.S. Senate…
… who has vowed to raise taxes and increase government spending exponentially at a time of grave economic crisis…
… who has not called for hearings as Chair of the European Affairs Subcommittee of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, which has oversight of military operations in Afghanistan…
… who has promised unilateral retreat from the War on Terror and unconditional talks with foreign despots…
… who has had long-standing, close relationships with a former terrorist, a hate-spewing racist minister, and the corrupt operators of Chicago machine politics…
… who has no public record of his work while attending Columbia University and Harvard Law School…
… who has no public record of his work as President (Editor 1990) of the Harvard Law Review…
… who has no public record of who financed Obama’s years at Columbia and Harvard…
… how could such a man be on the brink of becoming the next President of the United StatDear Fellow Voter:
How is it possible?
How could a man es?
The liberal media has one answer to that question: Barack H. Obama has been “delivered to us” (in the words of MSNBC’s Chris Matthews) as a kind of political savior who will end our national divisions, bind up our historical wounds, and infuse us with “hope” by delivering “change.”
But then there is the real answer. Thanks to the very same liberal media, few Americans have the slightest idea who Barack Obama really is, what he really stands for… or how he actually got where he is today.
Please — Senator Obama please tell us the truth.
PS: Modified text from TownHall.com

Posted by: Joe B | October 9, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am

Yes the questions from Joe B need to be answered before I consider voting for an empty suit.

Posted by: Mary A. | October 9, 2008, 11:18 am 11:18 am

Why isn’t anyone considering writting in Hillary for President on the ballot? We still have a right to do that!

Posted by: carol | October 9, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm

My feeling is that McCain used “that one” because he completely forgot Obama’s name. That actually scares me. The man is 72. While that’s not old for a lot of jobs it is for becoming president. He’s had a rough life-Years of torture in a POW camp. That had to do something to him mentally and physically. He’s also had a rough time trying to keep up with young women. Just trying to remember how many homes he owns is difficule.

Posted by: Melinda | October 9, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm

HELLO????? Hello???? hello??? I am truely very sorry for the Man we call a reporter and moderater, his name Tom Brokaw, we came from the same RED STATE, South Dakota. Only he was tainted from the start of this DEBATE…being a supporter of JOHN McCAIN, never should have been sitting in that spot, and yes all you people who are so outraged at being caught with your hands in the cookie jar, are all guilty by association! Yes you are. Just so put out! That your small ways are caught on video. John McCain not only said “that one”, he pointedly, at the end didn’t extend a hand to Senator Obama, he turned on his heals and Cindy finally put her hand out ONLY after Senator Obama extended his hand…shook Cindy’s hand but did McCain ever extend his hand to Michelle?? NO WAY…Then when they were shaking hands Cindy stuck BOTH HANDS BEHIND HER BACK and DID NOT EXTEND A HAND TO ANYONE. MICHELLE, GUESTS, NO ONE!!! This speaks of their CHARACTER, BOTH HER and JOHN! Well I take that back John shook hands with CHIEF PETTY OFFICER during the debate,( I believe that was against the rules too) Why aren’t we speaking about that too?? Also John and Cindy made “A MIGHTY QUICK EXIT” Gosh I just can’t touch any of these low lifes in the audience, they just aren’t of my class!John McCain along with Tom Brokaw are aligned in the fight of their lives. Nothings too DIRTY for them! Remember Edward R. Murrow…GOOD NIGHT AND GOOD LUCK??? We need to have the Lord on our side, the side of CIVILIZATION, be it Christian, Mormon, Jew, Seventh day Adventist, Muslim,etc. etc. etc. WE ALL LIVE IN THIS WORLD…Come on people if JOHN McCAIN COULD GET BIN LADEN… WHY THE HELL WAIT TILL GEORGE BUSH IS OUT OF OFFICE, GET THE S.o.B. NOW JOHN, THEN YOU WOULD WIN THIS ELECTION FAIR AND SQURE!!! Only you can’t and won’t too many of your people depend on raping the government of every last penny to be able to be in control of the masses…KEEP EM DOWN, KEEP EM WEAK, KEEP EM HUNGRY, OH AND LET”S NOT FORGET KEEP THEM SCARED SHITLESS…FEAR FEAR FEAR. THEN AND ONLY THEN ARE YOU IN CONTROL, BECAUSE THE ISSUES ON THE ECONOMY< THE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION TO BOOGA BOOGA BOOGA, THE SKY IS FALLING!! HELLO????? Hello???? hello??? Is anybody out there? Ground control to major Tom???

Posted by: Darlene | October 9, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm

Man, after i called Obama “That One”, That One has become so popular. I think i will vote for “That One” so that someone will call me “That One”.

Posted by: John McCain | October 9, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm

Man, i lost it on this one too. I said “My Fellow Prisoners” instead of “My Fellow Americans”. Oops.. he he he

Posted by: John McCain | October 9, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm

“That one” is racist statement? I’ve lived in the South for 55 years, went through the civil rights era and have never, ever, not one time heard it used in a racist manner. But the question is — which candidate comfortably attended an all black church for over 15 years and listened to sermons demonizing whites, and later named the pastor of this church his mentor? Boy, (uh oh) “That one, the one who did that, sure sounds like a racists to me. But hey, logic and actions are of such little value when we have such outrageous and obvious racists behavior as McCain using the well known racist phrase, “That one”. Great use of your time ABC. I look forward to your indepth reporting on Obama’s 15 year racist history real soon — YEAH — you bet!!!

Posted by: wtstan | October 9, 2008, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm

okay…you cannot possibly be referring to Obama as a racist against whites….his Vice President is white, and BY GOD is his mother white? Oh and I forgot that he was raised by a white grandmother.
Everyone keeps playing the race card. Obama himself has specifically tried to avoid it. To me, it doesn’t matter if McCain meant “That One” in a racist manner. It’d be rude anyway. Even in a high school debate, you do not refer to your opponent as “that one.” It’s basic etiquette. Politicians have to be careful about that; McCain wasn’t, and now he’s getting flack for it.
But really, all of us should really be worried about Sarah Palin. Think about it. McCain is 72 years old with a history of cancer. I’m sorry but Palin is a moron when it comes to policy. She’s clearly only repeating the fundamentals of McCain’s campaign that have been drilled into her and has no idea what she’s talking about, which is why she bombed her interviews. Seriously. If she and McCain win this election, I will have lost all faith in my country.

Posted by: manda | October 11, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm

Ummm, seriously? This off-handed address is being made into a character issue? Are you kidding me??? I think there are much more important issues at hand.
I for one am much more concerned with Senator Obama’s associations. ACORN, with Bill Ayers- a known Un-Repentant TERRORIST… Bribery and fraud convict Tony Rezko… and let’s not forget that beacon of the community Reverend Jeremiah Wright, with his racist, subversive, down-right scary sermons… Barack Obama attended his church for over twenty years. But oh yeah, he NEVER heard a sermon like that… Riiight. I’m sorry people, you are KNOWN by the company you keep and where character is concerned, actions speak much louder than words!

Posted by: Biaia | October 12, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm

Leave a Reply

Do you have more information about this topic? If so, please click here to contact the editors of ABC News.