Does Obama Still Think Ayers Has Been ‘Rehabilitated’? No, Says His Campaign
Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., told a radio host yesterday that by the time he found out about William Ayers’ background as a member of a violent radical 70s group "The Weather Underground," "I assumed that he had been rehabilitated," since Ayers at that point had become an apparently accepted member of the Chicago academic world.
Ayers was, when Obama met him, "a college professor, teaches education at the University of Illinois, and that’s how I met him, was working on a school reform project that was funded by an ambassador and former close friend of Ronald Reagan’s and I was sitting on this board along with a whole bunch of conservative businessmen and civic leaders, and he was one of the people who was on this board."
But since 1995 — when Obama met Ayers — the founding member of the Weather Underground has gone on to make it clear that he doesn’t think he did anything wrong. And Obama has worked with him (as have plenty of others, including some Republicans) on education issues and such.
And Ayers has made it clear that he is unrepentant.
”I don’t regret setting bombs,” Ayers told the New York Times in 2001. ”I feel we didn’t do enough.” Asked if he would do it all again, Ayers said, ”I don’t want to discount the possibility. I don’t think you can understand a single thing we did without understanding the violence of the Vietnam War."
In a comic strip that Ayers recently posted on his blog, Ayers tried to explain the "we didn’t do enough" quote from seven years ago, writing, "It’s impossible to get to be my age and not have plenty of regrets. The one thing I don’t regret is opposing the war in Vietnam with every ounce of my being. During the Vietnam War, the Weather Underground took credit for bombing several government installations as a dramatic form of armed propaganda. Action was taken against symbolic targets in order to declare a state of emergency. But warnings were always called in, and by design, no one was ever hurt.
"When I say, ‘We didn’t do enough,’ a lot of people rush to think, ‘That must mean, "We didn’t bomb enough s—."’ But that’s not the point at all. It’s not a tactical statement, it’s an obvious political and ethical statement. In this context, ‘we’ means ‘everyone.’ The war in Vietnam was not only illegal, it was profoundly immoral, millions of people were needlessly killed. Even though I worked hard to end the war, I feel to this day that I didn’t do enough because the war dragged on for years after the majority of the American people came to oppose it. I don’t think violent resistance is necessarily the answer, but I do think opposition and refusal is imperative."
(He doesn’t think violent resistance is NECESSARILY the answer?)
So, today, with today’s facts, does Obama think Ayers has been "rehabilitated"?
No, he doesn’t think so, a source at the campaign tells me.
Obama spox Bill Burton says of Obama’s comment that he thought Ayers had been "rehabilitated": "Sen. Obama was referring to his education work but he, of course, does not believe that work absolves him of the despicable acts that he committed 40 years ago."
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Jake- did you ask why Obama and his campaign have given so many untruthful and/or misleading stories about this so far? Why, in fact, he’d failed to mention his Chicago Annenberg Challege experience at all up to this point?
I would like reporters to start looking into what Obama’s CAC board supported for funding.
Acorn. Klonsky. A power struggle with Daley, and poor results.
Obama has been giving out false information about this for a reason. I would like a reporter to find it before we vote.
Posted by: MayBee | October 10, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
The stock market is on a roller coaster, and McCain is trying to buy on bad loans at full price and you have three post on Ayres, two supposed Biden “gaffes” with ONE post regarding the economy.
As a fellow communications major and former newspaper director, I’m appalled — where is the journalist integrity to inform the populace on ISSUES? Geesh.
Posted by: Really? | October 10, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
We are facing an economic 9/11 and all John McCain can talk about it a man who did a very bad thing forty years ago and ‘Drill, baby, drill.’
Posted by: Matt | October 10, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
Everyone Obama has ever associated with needs either jail time, rehab or mental health treatment. Including Obama himself. He is world-class as far as flipping and flopping. First, he didn’t, then maybe he did, but didn’t know at the time that he did. So that excuses him for all his sins. B.S.
This man has so many faces, I wonder if all his teeth get brushed.
Posted by: nicole | October 10, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
Obama stated “I assumed he had been rehabilitated.” Hey maybe Bin Laden is also rehabilitated. It is really, really, really hard to believe that Obama really thinks Ayers is a roll model as Ayers has said publically that he wishes the group had bombed more, killed more and so forth. What judgment does his man Obama have?
Posted by: Ann | October 10, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
NObama does possess the arrogance in believing Americans will constantly buy into his disassembly.
Posted by: David | October 10, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
Matt -
You seem to miss the point – yes he did a bad thing 40 years ago but in 2001 Ayers himself said he does not regret it and feels they did not do enough.
What is up with that. Is this clown is an educator.
Posted by: Frank- South Hampton,NY | October 10, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
HAVE WE ALL LOST OUR MINDS? Because McCain and Bubblehead start playing up a SLIGHT connection Obama has with Ayers all of a sudden THIS IS THE CENTRAL ISSUE IN THE CAMPAIGN? ARE WE INSANE? Ayers is not on Obama’s staff. I’m not aware that he has supported him financially. He certainly has been repudiated by Obama. WHY ARE WE EVEN TALKING ABOUT THIS? WHY ARE WE PAYING ATTENTION TO MCCAIN’S DESPERATE ATTACKS? ONCE AGAIN, AMERICA, ARE WE REALLY THIS STUPID? THIS IS THE SWIFT BOAT OF THIS CAMPAIGN. IT IS PERIPHERAL, NONESSENTIAL, AND MOSTLY UNTRUE.
And let’s consider one more thing. Look at the hatred and venom McCain’s campaign is generating. Is that what we are as Americans? Or are we better than that? WHERE’S THE HONOR, JOHN?
Posted by: jon in maryland | October 10, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
The Ayers family selected and groomed Obama for political office.
Without the help of Bill Ayers (plus his father, wife, brother and other associates), Obama would probably not be in political office.
- It was Ayers the gave Obama power and prominence in Chicago by naming Obama to the Annenberg Challenge and Woods fund which doled out over $100 million to radical, left wing organizations.
- It was Ayers, in his house, who had a party with the Chicago elite to introduce Obama as the new person running for office in Chicago politics.
Without the huge help of Bill Ayers there would be no Obama.
Sidenotes:
- Bill Ayers wife, Bernadette Dohrn, worked in the same law office as Michelle Obama.
And didn’t Obama know the Ayers family in 1987?
In 1987 there was a push for school reform in Chicago. Thomas Ayers was a leader of the ABCs Coalition which was coordinated by his son, Bill Ayers. One member of the coalition was the Developing Communities Project, headed up by Barack Obama before he left for Harvard.
Posted by: Zank | October 10, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
This man constantly lies. Why didn’t he just tell us the truth during the ABC debate against Hillary??? He is dishonest to say the least. I have followed this story and he will give you non-answers until he is caught red handed. This man doesn’t have the integrity that I seek in a president.
Posted by: Jay | October 10, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
For you die-hard supporters for His Nothingness. The market crash is a vivid warning of what you will see under a Zero-bama administration.
Zero-bama pushed hard to pass a so-called economic stimulus program, basically giving some of you up to $700 bucks, to “save” the economy. On the contrary, HRC wanted a targeted economic plan aimed at banking and mortgage crisis – this was 12 months ago! Yet, the Congress, headed by his House Mommy and Senate Daddy wanting to show their support and to pick an Affirmative Action candi, went along, ignoring the real crisis and a viable solution at that time, again 1 freeking year ago.
Now, this $700 did nothing, as characteristic to His Nothingness, to the economy; actually it led to the down-slide of more than 40%!!!! in the market. On top of this, this phony still wants to give you $1000 to (1) buy your vote if you vote for him, and (2) boost and rescue the economy if you elect him.
This is a serious judgment problem. Has he really ever made a good judgment call when he has the responsibility of doing something????
Are you blind supporters really as moronic as this phony is!
Posted by: d0 | October 10, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
The economy is hurting and this is what we abc news chooses to talk about!!!!!
Posted by: saqres | October 10, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
@ Frank from Southampton (one word, BTW): You are a perfect reflection of why the nation is turning away from McCain. His supporters are crazy, hysterical and hopelessly wrong. The ugliness coming through at these rallies is an embarrassment to the Republican party, of which I’m a member.
Country first? Not even close.
Posted by: Howard, NYC | October 10, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
First, has anybody looked at the financial news, the state of the nation, or the truely dangerous, violent, and unAmerican vitriol coming out of McCain supporters in the last week? Is there a reason why this column is pretending that it doesn’t exist? It looks a lot like Germany in 1933 and it’s appalling that anyone at this network would fuel more of the hatred.
Second, if anyone out there used to be a supporter of the old John McCain – find Christopher Buckley’s piece today. It is astute and reasoned and says it all. The John McCain of 2000 wouldn’t vote for the John McCain of 2008 – he would not even shake hands with him.
Posted by: mara | October 10, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
Ayers won’t be rehabilitated until he picks up all the garbage in the snow with shovels and rakes and implements of destruction. And pays the $50 fine.
Officer Obama came to the realization that it was a typical case of American
blind justice, and there wasn’t nothing he could do about it.
Posted by: len | October 10, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
Another typical judgment problem by this Phony Nothingness. Anything surprising? Unless you are blind.
Posted by: d0 | October 10, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
Jon in Maryland, Life just aint fair is it?!?!
Posted by: David in Atlanta | October 10, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
Jake
c’mon we are clearly seeing the link between Ayers and Obama is nothing
and compared to Palin and her rallies and the similarity link to Vogel and AIP…
and the apparent similarity in values of a future Timothy mcVeigh as she incites her crowds
is what you should be focusing on if you want to ignore the economy…
instead you look at the less connected relationship that theywant to take your eye off the economy with.
Lets talk about AIP like is coming clear today is a mcuh more significant relationship that Obama’s board meetings and house meeting with a guy republican national past officials gave 50 million to.
Posted by: dl | October 10, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
How is WIlliam AYers related to the beating my bank accounts have taken over the last week? How is Rezo or what ever his name is related to my husband losing his job? They are distractions put out by McCain because he does not get economy. Same deal with Acorn. Yeah some say it is part of the problem and it may be but so are the greedy guys we just bailed out on Wall Street. By the way I WANT MY SPA TREATMENTS NOW!!!!There is enough blame to go around Pelosi and company ande ven John MCCain. He fought for deregulation for years before he saw the light.
Posted by: Jenny Rome Ga | October 10, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
Zero-bama IS ACORN.
Posted by: d0 | October 10, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
Ayers is a dead horse. McCain can keep beating this thing all he wants but in the end, it’s still a dead horse.
McDeperado is a sad thing to watch.
Here’s a radical idea, try acting like you give a rat’s but about the middle class.
Posted by: Adolph | October 10, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
One would think that someone with an Harvard education would be intelligent enough to look into the backgrounds of those he chooses to have a close relationship with for years. Apparently, Obama failed his character training at Harvard. He lies and distorts proven facts.
Posted by: Marla | October 10, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
The “Left” only wishes they had an Ayers like connection with McCain
Posted by: Barbara | October 10, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
and Obama thought Rev. Wright was sweet and innocent and Tony Rezko was just a really nice guy. He thought the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) would never violate our most precious right, our voting laws. The list goes on.
McCain/Palin for the sake of the country.
Posted by: emma | October 10, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
Try all you like, Republicans, with your smear tactics and trying to keep people from voting. None of it is going to work this time. The crap you brought us in office is soon to be over!The American people see through your lies and say Enough is Enough!
Posted by: Caribel | October 10, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
In a letter to the editor published in the NY Times today, William C. Ibershof, who was the lead federal prosecutor of the Weathermen in the 1970s (I was then chief of the criminal division in the Eastern District of Michigan and took over the Weathermen prosecution in 1972)
[He says that he is…]
amazed and outraged that Senator Barack Obama is being linked to William Ayers’s terrorist activities 40 years ago when Mr. Obama was, as he has noted, just a child.
Although I dearly wanted to obtain convictions against all the Weathermen, including Bill Ayers, I am very pleased to learn that he has become a responsible citizen.
Because Senator Obama recently served on a board of a charitable organization with Mr. Ayers cannot possibly link the senator to acts perpetrated by Mr. Ayers so many years ago.
Posted by: Wiscon108 | October 10, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
Hopefully before long all the Republicans will be singing “Super Trooper” by Abba. (Ok I admit I listened to my Mam Mia sound track at lunch. This song came it and well It just seemed applicable.)
Posted by: Jenny Rome Ga | October 10, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
Obama most likely first knew Ayers back in his days at Columbia University in the mid-1980s.
While Obama was going to Columbia University in New York, Ayers took education courses at Bank Street College, adjacent to Columbia in Morningside Heights — before earning his doctorate at Columbia’s Teachers College in 1987.
-Obama studied under Edward Said, a friend of Bill Ayers.
(Said even wrote a published rave review for Ayers’ book “Fugitive Days”
In his blog, Ayers praises Said for being an advocate of the Palestinians.)
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While attending Harvard, Obama got a summer job in a law firm in Chicago where Bill Ayers wife, fellow terrorist Bernadette Dorn, worked. This law firm was also used by Tom Ayers, father of Bill Ayers.
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Barack Obama and Bill Ayers shared the same views on many subjects – that is why Ayers selected Obama to be on the board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge
and the Woods Fund.
Together Obama and Ayers gave out money to Jeremiah Wright’s Trinity Church to promote its Marxist “black liberation theology”, underwrote the Arab American Action Network (AAAN) founded by Rashid Khalidi, a top apologist for Yasser Arafat and into the “Small Schools Workshop” — a project begun by Ayers and run by Klonsky ( Mike Klonsky, a fellow SDS and Maoist associate of Ayers ) to spur the revolution from the ground up.
Ayers selected and groomed Obama for political office. It were not for the help of Ayers, Obama would probably not have gone any where in politics.
Posted by: Zank | October 10, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
Obama, Ayers, Chicago organizers, ACORN — all part of the same rotten fruit!
Posted by: dl | October 10, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
Yep yep yep…. another of those denials. Just watch how the matter with Wright developed from crazy uncle to someone he cannot disown to someone he finally disowned. Drip drip drip…when will Obama release his full medical records?
Posted by: zeferimus | October 10, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
According to reports, even Obama’s airplane stinks. Stink seems to follow him wherever he goes!
Posted by: dl | October 10, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
McCain/Palin = losers
Posted by: Vicki | October 10, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
First, Obama sees nothing wrong with working with Ayers. Then he says he didn’t know Ayers was a violent activist. Then he says he thought Ayers had been rehabilitated. Now, he says he thinks Ayers has not been rehabilitated.
Obama acts like a lawyer trying evade responsibility, which is what he is. He’s not presidential material.
Posted by: tina | October 10, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
Imagine that, Barack wants to talk about something else besides his questionable past. Sorry. America’s about to pick its President in a time of crisis. Now more than ever, character counts!
Posted by: Rich Ng | October 10, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
Bill Ayres was and is accepted as an important advocate of education reform, one who is a professor at a respected university.
Guilt by association is the game that Joe McCarthy played. He was unAmerican and so is John McCain.
NOW CAN WE get back to the economic problems facing this nation?
Unless that is John McCain wants to talk about the Obama’s nanny or gardener or if he has a toupe or something equally important!
Posted by: John | October 10, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
I have 3 friends whose company where they work just went belly up. I work to help people who have cancer, find resources if they lose or don’t have their health insurance. It is so surprising to people that there really are Not many resources available, and even then so have to have No assets, what so ever. So, we really need to not be fooled re: the GOP attacks os Obama, with old c….p. We all will be hurting if we Do!
Posted by: fempharoh08 | October 10, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
Repub. you can continue bringing
this Ayers issue morning and night.
But what I can tell you is:
No one can go back and change a bad
beginning. But anyone can start
now and create a successul ending.
Posted by: FM | October 10, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
Obama Says McCain is Trying to Fuel Anger and Division….come on Jake…
Posted by: linda n carolina | October 10, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
What I meant to say in my last post is
if there any resources availble, you would have to have No assets at All to receive them!
Posted by: fempharoh08 | October 10, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
The tom cat that prowls the alleys at night in my neighborhood has more integrity that Barack Obama. At least, the stray cat don’t repeat the same lies over and over again.
The Democrats are responsible for our current economic mess. One can give away $$$$s only so long before the account runs dry. SOCIALISM AT ITS BEST. OBAMA AT HIS BEST. REDISTRIBUTE THE WEALTH.
Posted by: Mai | October 10, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
Wow, what anger from the far right-wing of the GOP. Still throwing stones without looking over at Sarah Palin sleeping with a person who was a member of a political party (AIP) which has as its central platform Alaska seceding from the United States — i.e. treason. What’s more bothersome: Obama once, several years ago, being on a non-profit education committee with a bunch of republicans and Ayers (I guess all those republicans are to be considered terrorists, as well), or a person who continues to this very day to be closely associated with, and in fact sleeping with, a traitor!
Hummm……
Posted by: Jay | October 10, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
Obama is starting to sound like Nixon. Several months ago, Obama’s first response was that Obama knew Ayers because their kids went to school together. Problem was Ayers’ kids are fully grown and Obama’s are in elementary school. The story’s a changin.
Posted by: Rich Ng | October 10, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
If Obama’s tenuous association with Ayers should make people question his judgement, what about McCain’s serving in the Senate with Strom Thrumond, who himself ran on a segregation platform? Should McCain not have denounced him for previous actions and resigned in protest?
Posted by: Truthiness | October 10, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
So McCain is launching a dirty campaign.
Well, you have to fight fire with fire and if the media is so against you, what else can you do to get the stupid Americans that believe that total socialist to maybe step back and take a look at this phony empty suit. Wake up before it is too late.
Posted by: Polly | October 10, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
Hero – Oprah did not make the list? For shame!!!! She must be devistated.
Posted by: Jenny Rome Ga | October 10, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
Barbara:
The right only wishes they had a viable candidate like Obama.
Posted by: The Unshrub | October 10, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
According to obama’s past and behavior, 30-40 years from now, if bin laden is still alive, we can work with him for the greater good.
maybe we can give bin laden a medal for good behavior
ACORN thanks obama for that 800,000.00 and the Millions during his state senate years….
Posted by: carpenter.nyc | October 10, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
How come no one talks about the FACT that the education board Ayers and Obama sat on WAS FUNDED BY A REPUBLICAN? And that REPUBLICANS SAT ON THE BOARD WITH AYERS AS WELL? Personally, I’d hold the person WHO FUNDED THE BOARD AYERS SAT ON much more responsible for being in bed with a terrorist than anyone who merely served on the board.
The funny thing is, the American people are way ahead of the media on this one. After nearly a week of pointless, non-stop smears and distortions and lies by the McCain campaign (with the collusion of the media hacks like Tapper), OBAMA’S POLL NUMBERS HAVEN’T CHANGED AND McCAIN’S FAVORABILITY RATING IS PLUMMETING LIKE THE STOCK MARKET.
What we’re seeing here is the dying gasp of this sort of ignorant, hateful GOP politics. The GOP may have a future, but the party is going to have rebuild itself from the bottom-up.
Hate, fear, and ignorance are not patriotic.
Posted by: R | October 10, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
Mara: I quess what we are saying is falling on deaf ears. They love to stir the pot! They cater to the lowest intelligence in our country.
Posted by: linda n carolina | October 10, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
I am so sick of smear campaigns. Americans are better than this.
We know what the real issues are. Our world economy is in crisis, people are losing their homes, many are without health care, our education system is falling behind, we are in debt up to our ears because of this administration, we’re still spending $10 billion a month in Iraq, Afghanistan is on a downward spiral.
These are the issues but somehow McCain thinks we’d rather focus on conspiracy theories surrounding the first black candidate for President? You betcha!
Posted by: cincyr | October 10, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
“and by design no one was ever hurt”…he’s lying..plain and simple…a Police Officer was killed by his group.
Posted by: Scabby-Nubtail | October 10, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
Obama Supporters: The economy’s bad so it does not matter that our next leader does not share the same values you do.
It sounds like a magician asking you to watch one hand so he can pull a trick in the other.
Posted by: RonS | October 10, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
Sen McCain and Gov Palin seem to be inciting their crowds to emulate the actions of Bill Ayers.
Posted by: Karl | October 10, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
ayers HEARTS obama
acorn HEARTS obama
and obama HEARTS them back….
keep on hating, keep on cheating,
only in America…
Posted by: carpenter.nyc | October 10, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
What is “Republican Logic”? It must be an oxy-moron
Posted by: Larry Linn | October 10, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
@ RRRR
THE AYERS/OBAMA TIMELINE:
1981-1983 = William Ayers and Barack Obama meet at Columbia?
1987 = William Ayers links up with Barack Obama in Chicago
1988 = Ayers solicits Khalid Al-Mansour to raise money for Obama’s Harvard law School education
1989 = Tom Ayers and William Ayers get Obama a summer job at Sidley & Austin (where he meets Michelle Obama); Ayers’ wife Bernadine Dohrn also worked at Sidley at about the same time as Barack and Michelle.
1993 = Ayers places Obama on Woods Foundation
1995 = Ayers makes Obama Chairman of Annenberg Challenge
1995 = Ayers hosts a coffee klatch for Obama’s political debut (Obama falsely claims this is when he met Ayers)
2007-2008 = The structure of Obama’s presidential campaign increasingly comes to resemble an Ayers-designed national “community organizer matrix” straight out of Maoist theory. This is not merely a presidential “campaign.” Obama’s organization is the first installment of an ongoing movement being paid for with tax-exempt contributions to his campaign, approaching half a billion dollars (many of it from foreign Middle East sources).
2008 = Obama, in response to ABC News, tells a national TV audience he was “six years old” when Ayers bombed federal buildings, and that they are only casual neighborhood acquaintances.
Posted by: Hero | October 10, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
No one seemed too concerned about the ISSUES when they had Sarah Palin’s pregnant daughter to be talking about instead.
Posted by: SandyB | October 10, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
R :
ok…so the republicans are funding radicals like ayers, and acorn so that they can support an empyt suit like obama, so they can beat McCain….
hello…
the republican that gave the money to ayers’ fund was made to believe the money was going to help the education process in the inner city….instead ayers+obama used it to fund their buddies for more radical teachings…
after the fund was made, there were NO PROOF of any improvements in the children’s learning in math, and science…..
follow the money and find out who signed for it….ayers+obama
Posted by: carpenter.nyc | October 10, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
Oh, stop all your hysterical rants you McCainiacs. Ayers never said “I wish we had killed more”. He said he wished he had “done” more, perhaps more speaking out, more demonstrating, sometinig more to end the War earlier since it didn’t end until 1975, after 58,000 of our soldiers were killed for no good reason. There wasn’t anything American citizens could do to end the War. We had to wait it out until the Viet Cong resolved it for us. Ayers didn’t even “kill” one person. He bombed government buildings, yes. He may not have been a good man in 1970, and maybe not even today. But believe me, there were a lot of angry Americans and anti-war protestors back then who did a lot of acting out because they opposed a vicious, useless War that nearly destroyed this country. (Sound familiar?) In any event, I doubt Ayers went around bragging about what he did so many years later, and Obama may not have known about this at all. Ayers never did any jail time for his activities, either. Obama and Ayers were on a Board together, and that doesn’t constitute anything illegal.
Posted by: geecee | October 10, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
Caribel, Is accusing Republicans of voter intimidation your best defense to voter fraud committed by NObama/ACORN?
Posted by: David | October 10, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
I believe that many of the racist anti-Obama posts on this site are actually created by Obama supporters pretending to be McCain supporters. Their intent is to create the illusion that McCain supporters are hateful, ignorant racists. I also believe that the few racist-types who show up at McCain rallies are Obama plants. They are playing to the media. It’s all a part of the strategy. Their hope is that if they can make ordinary Americans believe the racists have risen en masse to oppose Obama, these ordinary Americans will rush to his defense and give him a “sympathy” vote. The media, of course, helps this strategy along by focusing not on the millions of Americans who have well-founded reasons to oppose Barack Obama, but on the few idiots who don’t like the color of his skin. For a new kind of politician, Barack Obama certainly knows some old political tricks.
Posted by: Disappointed Dem | October 10, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
Charles Keating did more damage to America than the entire Weather Underground combined. And the Ohio National Guard had more innocent blood on their hands.
Posted by: Yukon Sam | October 10, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
ACORN learned from obama to go to bank official’s homes to harrass them to keep lending money to ANYBODY THAT CAME INTO THEIR BANKS.
ayers+obama FUNDED ACORN.
FUNDED ACORN TO KEEP ON HARRASSING
and during the primary against Hillary, obama FUNDED ACORN to KEEP ON CHEATING to steal the votes from Hillary’s supporters.
obama knows 2 ways to play,
pay to play
cheat and win
Posted by: carpenter.nyc | October 10, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
Bottom line is: Barack Hussein Obama should scare the hell out of all true Americans. The man is a true Socialist
Posted by: Gary | October 10, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
If this were a job, Obama’s personal references would be Jeremiah Wright, Bill Ayers, Tony Rezco, and Franklin Raines. If I were Obama, I too would be hoping that my interviewer did not call on my personal references.
Posted by: RonS | October 10, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
ayers+obama used the funding to teach people how to cheat and win in elections in chicago for years….years….
and inturn ACORN got paid well.
CHEAT AND WIN CHEAT AND WIN….good education process taught by the “professor ayers and the almighty obama ”
thanks to the woods fund (ayer’s bank account)
Posted by: carpenter.nyc | October 10, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
Well Obama finall answered the question of when he learned of Ayers radical terrorist past when he stated
“Ultimately”
“I ended up learning about the fact that he had engaged in this reprehensible act 40 years ago.” I say Thanks to Sara Palin
Obama also “Ultimately” after 20 years of “inspiration” ,learned about Rev Wright thanks to Fox Sean Hannity
“Jeremiah Wright who spoke at a press function in Detroit was not the man he heard preaching every Sunday”
Obama may have been suspicious as he states in Chap 14 of Obamas book “Reverend Wright shrugged “Some of my fellow clergy don’t appreciate what we’re about. They feel we’re too radical”
Obama also “Ultimately” learned Tony Rezko thanks to a Court and Obamas discounted home purchase
“This isn’t the Tony Rezko I knew, but now he has been convicted by a jury on multiple charges that once again shine a spotlight on the need for reform.”
Obama also “Ultimately” learned about Mike Klonsky ideas of education and communist ties thanks to right wing bloggers
Mike Klonsky postings were entirely deleted from the Obama campaign web site in June after several independent bloggers noted Klonsky’s connections to Obama and Ayers.
Obama also “Ultimately” learned about Hatem El-Hady’s thanks to Michelle Obama who had listed him as a friend
Hatem El-Hady’s web page has now vanished from the Obama campaign website. No explanations given
Obama “ultimately” learned thanks to campaign staff,
The New Black Panther Party appears openly anti-White, anti-Jewish, and anti-America. After Obama’s Tuesday damage-control speech,his campaign pulled the Black Panthers’ endorsement story off their website
“Ultimately” may not yet have arrived for Obama on Khalidi ,thanks to Khalidi returning the Woods Grant favor by hosting a fundraiser for Obama.
Obama “lavished praise” on Khalidi in 2003 when the former PLO functionary took a job at Columbia University, according to an LA Times article last year.
“Ultimately” may never arrive for Frank Marshall Davis’s role as a mentor to the young Obama but if Obama read Franks book Livin’ the Blues he would “Ultimately” learn as Frank wrote that “when author Richard Wright in 1944 left the Communist Party”,”aided only the racists who were constantly seeking any means to destroy cooperation between Reds and blacks”(p. 243)
Obama “Ultimately” learned about his racist Grandma that raised him
“but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe.”
I say the voters will “Ultimately” learn that of all the above associations, the only person of them all that he publicly stated that mad him cringe was his grandmother. I just hope its before Nov4.
Posted by: Justthe Facts | October 10, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
Jake,
Please post this.
Let it go. Let it go. Let it go. This is a non-issue, Obama has been open about it, and countless news sources have shown that there is no close relationship between the two. ABC needs to get out of McCain’s sinking tank. Do we really want to spend the next 4 weeks talking about who once went to dinner with whom? Do we really want to discuss Obama’s Wright vs. McCain’s Hagee? Obama’s Ayers vs. McCain’s being on the board of an anti-semitic group? Biden’s earmarks vs. Palin’s support of a secessionist group who advocated “Alaska leaving the Union through violence if necessary”? Obama’s Rezko vs. McCain’s Keating and membership on a board that illegally supplied arms during Iran Contra?
Q) Why is Ayers the issue when the economy has lost 50% of its value? A)Because the media has let McCain talk them into making it an issue. All of these folks have pasts, and I think one could make a pretty persuasive case that McCain’s past has a few more major ghosts in it than Obama’s (repeated affairs, cheating on disabled wife, blind political ambition, Cindy’s drug additions and felony theft of drugs, etc). I don’t think any of their associations or past actions were meant to inflict harm or undermine their abilities to lead. Stop enouraging this crap. This election is too important.
If ABC absolutely can’t manage to police itself away from stupid character attacks, then at least attempt to be objective and let loose the dogs on McCain’s drug use, extra-marital affairs, Cindy’s addictions, Cindy’s felonies, Palin’s involvement in AIP, McCain’s involvement with illegal arms deals and anti-semitism, etc.
Why does the terrorist card work on Obama and not McCain when McCain has a must shadier past? McCain has less melanin than Obama.
Posted by: Adam | October 10, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
Hey Shrubbery.. One would have to be a Bin Laden sympathizer to view a candidate with ties to terrorist as being viable…
Posted by: Barbara | October 10, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
Nice try republicans. No one cares. Obama will be president-elect on 11/5; president in Jan ’09 and relected in Jan ’13. Get used to it.
Posted by: dem in chicago | October 10, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
obama was a lawyer.
lawyers lie all the time and they have no remorse for it….all they want is their fee….
how convenient :
obama runs woods fund, woods fund ACORN, ACORN pays obama fees for his work….
all swimming together in that pond of chicago style politics….
something smells
Posted by: carpenter.nyc | October 10, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
Disappointed Dem …….
If what you were saying were realistic, then those few rogue supporters would not be tolerated in the McCain/Palin rallies. They are not only tolerated, they are encouraged and they fit right in with the rest of them.
Face the facts, McCain and Sarah Palin are Demogogues.
Posted by: Truth Matters | October 10, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
The media MIGHT want to mention the appearance/disappearance of Mike Klonsky as a blogger for the Obama website.
If Obama WERE bent on socialism, that’d be fine — IF he could bring himself to put forward something other than a Republican-lite platform, along with his personal supposed-adorability, to attract votes.
Trouble is, most of Obama’s political history has been uneventful, except for his own advancement toward the big coup.
The worst thing about Ayers/Obama/Klonsky may not be that Ayers actually is, as he claims, a “communist”, but that the hyper-”left” may have operated for all these years as … the EXACT opposite.
Posted by: Belle Starr | October 10, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
obama was a community organizor and instructor for ACORN…you know it looks like he did a good job. Wonder if lying and cheating were included in the course? He does a good job at that.
Posted by: Polly | October 10, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
Ayers’ education work has been just as divisive as Rev Wright’s religious work!!!
Posted by: Cassandra Washington | October 10, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
Why, in fact, he’d failed to mention his Chicago Annenberg Challege experience at all up to this point?
posted by Maybee
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annenburg? You mean the very one who just endorsed John mcCain this week????
Posted by: Truth Matters | October 10, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
I totally understood what Obama said the first time. Obama has always condemned Ayers acts.
Posted by: Brandon | October 10, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
When obama is when everyone will change their minds including these brainwashed hater celebrities. what do they think because they are rich it will matter to a
all the black liberation army and rev wright and william airs and farakahn.woo this is so prophetic straight from the bible telling everyone thta nation will rise against nation and leaders will become faint out of fear because of the things happening upon the whole enhabited earth. and many will come in my name claiming that they are the messiah BUT DONT BELIEVE IT .it says it will deceive even people who believe in god.now THAT radical black leader of the islamic nation quote on the video THAT HE IS THE MESSIAH ABOUT OBAMA. .everyone is gone MAD…TAKE A LOOK AT him. .he is going to let CHAVEZ AND all those crazy dictators in. and the leader of the black panthers say they will cut off the whites peoples ears and noses and GUT OUT OUR FLESH. now go to last sundays hannity america and see the documentary with thes people who obama has ties with now as we speak. he just recently got blessed by them for the run for presidency and lives on the same block with 3 members ofanti white, anti american guys. dont forget rev wright who he said at first and strongly that he would not disown him, and then less then a month later staged a setup with his rev of 23years and said he would dis own him.you guys are wacked out like the rest of this hateful brainwashed materialist stepford wifes society. you dish your violent hate out for some like sara palin and listen to that he she beast woman madonna and listen to demacratics in alska that obama paid all those demacratic judges to convince us that she did something when the deputy first said she didnt until obama and his thugs went to alaska to pay them off .ypu sickos madddd. if a hateful kkk member anti american president was running i would call for HIM TO STEP DOWN IMMEDIATELY AND SO SHOULD THIS DANGEROUS MAN OBAMA.
Posted by: MARIANN | October 10, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
And if you want to know the change Obama and Ayers have in mind, look at what they did at the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. Look at Obama’s Chicago years, which explains why Ayers and Dohrn would host the launching of his political career from their living room. That’s where Obama doesn’t want to go — because if voters look there, he’s toast.
Posted by: vs | October 10, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
Adolph,
Ayers is hardly a deadhorse.
Independent voters:
NObama – 34%
McCain – 32%
Still undecided – 31%
Posted by: David | October 10, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
I don’t see how McCain/ Palin can honestly make such a non-issue into an issue of patriotism and integrity when Palin remains married to a former member of a secessionist party and when the McCain camp has been doing everything possible to stonewall the Troopergate investigation, not to mention they have been running the ugliest campaign in our recent presidential election history.
Posted by: chris | October 10, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
the republicans look really ridiculous talking about ayers. they remind me of little kids saying bad things about somebody else. at least obama attacks on the issues and not on the personal level. That’s why obama is more respected due to his professionalism. Mccain is being the wrong role model.
Posted by: elguero | October 10, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
MayBee
Clearly all of you should spend less time watching fixed news and actually read. Like Palin, you’re all low information voters. This info has been out for a long time. Now, what I’d like to know is how all of you players feel about the fact that Ayers was appointed to this board that he served on with as many as 5 other REPUBLICANS by Walter Annenberg who was given an ambassadorship by RONALD REGAN. Annenberg’s wife who is still alive endorsed McCain. Are the Regans, Annenberg’s and McCain terrorist?
You’re all just ticked because the tall, smart, young guy is beating the snot out of the short, stupid, Old guy. Graduating 5th from the bottom of your class means you’re not Presidential material. Sorry but joe six pack is beneath the Whitehouse and 5 schools in 6 years does not scream Vice President of the United States.
Posted by: roxanne | October 10, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
jpt quotes Bill Ayers:
“by design no one was ever hurt.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | October 10, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm
Carpenter – “CHEAT AND WIN CHEAT AND WIN….good education process taught by the “professor ayers and the almighty obama ” I thought that that was the
Republicans tactics until they switched to lynch mobs.
Posted by: Jenny Rome Ga | October 10, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
“the republicans look really ridiculous talking about ayers.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | October 10, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
For more information on Ayers, ACORN, and other recent revelations, check out the NO Quarter and Texas Darlin’ Blogs.
Right now ACORN is being investigated for Voter Fraud in a number of states, and guess who was involved with ACORN?
Posted by: Yavo Lem | October 10, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
Matt -
You seem to miss the point – yes he did a bad thing 40 years ago but in 2001 Ayers himself said he does not regret it and feels they did not do enough.
What is up with that. Is this clown is an educator.
Posted by: Frank- South Hampton,NY | Oct 10, 2008 2:13:22 PM
There you go only listening to one side.
“In the ensuing years, Ayers has repeatedly avowed that when he said he had “no regrets” and that “we didn’t do enough” he was speaking only in reference to his efforts to stop the United States from waging the Vietnam War, efforts which he has described as “. . . inadequate [as] the war dragged on for a decade.”[21] Ayers has maintained that the two statements were not intended to imply a wish they had set more bombs.”
Were you even alive in the 60s ? Those were different times back then. I don’t agree with his attacks, but things were different then. One of my co-workers is a convicted felon who I have had a beer with outside of work; does that make me a felon ? Am I a bad person ? No. He did his time, turned his life around, has a family and it was over 25 years ago.
The world economy is in crisis and the headline that comes out of the McCain campaign this morning is Ayers. What a joke.
Posted by: Matt | October 10, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
If McCain had even just shared a cup of coffee with Timothy McVeigh, his campaign would be toast. But no worries Barack, the Times will run it on page A21 (they save the front page for really important stories such as the pregnancy of Sarah Palin’s daughter;-)
Posted by: William | October 10, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
“Obama spox Bill Burton says of Obama’s comment that he thought Ayers had been “rehabilitated”: ‘Senator Obama was referring to his education work but he of course does not believe that work absolves him of the despicable acts that he committed 40 years ago’.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | October 10, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
OH BY THE WAY I AM NOT FAR RIGHT BUT YOU NUT JOBS ARE FAR GONE/ YOU MAKE EXCUSES FOR EVERY THING .IT IS THE FAR LEFT THAT IS CAUSING ALL OF THIS. THE MEDIA THE MAIN CHANNELS COVERING ONLY OBAMA AND TELLING LIES ABOUT THE POLLS AND EVERTHING. LOOK AT OPERA WOW SHE HAS AN ALL WHITE AUDENCE AND CONTROLS THEM ALL,WAIT UNTIL THEY GET THE SHOCK OF THEIR LIFES WHEN OBAMA THE LIAR GETS IN. THEREIS NO RIGHT WING HYSTERIA BUT THEIR IS LEFT WING RADICALS WHO WOULD DO ANYTHING JUST TO GET A DEMOCRAT IN .HOW IS IT THAT OBAMA WON OVER HILLLARY NOW REALLY COME ON NOW ….IT WAS FIXED… .HE HAS NO EXPIERENCE
Posted by: MARIANN | October 10, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
Like I said earlier, McCain’s idiotic attempts to smear Obama wouldn’t get so much coverage (as if it’s news instead of the rantings of a losing candidate) if the media (including CBS, ABC, NBC, etc.) didn’t give it so much traction.
When Obama wins the election, the mainstream media is going to have less credibility than ever before.
Posted by: princess9681 | October 10, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
“Were you even alive in the 60s? Those were different times back then. I don’t agree with his attacks, but things were different then.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | October 10, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
“If McCain had even just shared a cup of coffee with Timothy McVeigh, his campaign would be toast. ”
McVeigh was a killer – he took out hundreds – and for no reason – how can a thinking person compare the two…
How about if McCain had a relationship with a convicted criminal who worked to undermine democracy and went to prison for it?
he did – his name is G. Gordon Liddy – and haters like you don’t care about little facts like that!
Posted by: Fred | October 10, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
The bottom-line to all of this is that Obama has not been voluntarily forthcoming and has outright LIED about the extent of his involvement with William Ayers and ACORN.
Additionally, if not moreover, Obama’s repeated claim that our current financial crisis is the result of the last eight years of Bush’s failed policies is not only an outright LIE but, since Obama played an instrumental role in ACORN obtaining thousands of sub-prime mortgage loans, it’s a HYPOCRITICAL LIE.
NObama! NO way! NO shape! NO form!
Posted by: RacerJim | October 10, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
Just to illustrate how stupid this whole guilt-by-association meme is:
Several Republicans have been indicted and convicted of corruption, sexual misconduct and other charges.
John McCain is a Republican and is known to have associated with many of these individuals. He served on committees with some of them, and may have, on occasion, had social contact with men later revealed to be criminals and/or pedophiles and/or guys with unusually wide stances.
So how certain are we, really, that John McCain is not secretly a criminal pedophile with an unusually wide stance?
Is any of this penetrating? Hello, McFly! It’s just another pointless, vapid iteration of the old Rove smear machine, like the earlier versions it’s all blatant lies and innuendo, and just because a lie is repeated an infinite number of times by brainless sock-puppets like Hannity does not make it any more credible than the first utterance.
Good grief, people! Use that squishy gray stuff between your ears for something other than to keep your head from imploding!
Posted by: Yukon Sam | October 10, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
My dad always said, if you want to see a person’s real caharacter, watch what he does when boxed into a corner. With his attack politics McCain has revealed himself to be pathetic.
Posted by: frank burns | October 10, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
If we’re going to talk about the 1960s, let’s talk about McCain and his acceptance of the bombing of civilians in Viet Nam as “patriotic duty.” Didn’t McCain himself admit in a 1997 interview with Mike Wallace that he (McCain) was (is) a “war criminal”? His words, not mine.
If John McCain fail to see the Viet Nam war as immoral and the Iraq war as both immoral and illegal, then I have no use for the man nor anyone who would even consider voting for him.
Posted by: Fred | October 10, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
Ask the people in Chicago — Ayers is simply part of the scene, and no one thought anything of it until this election. McCain is throwing mud and hoping some sticks.
Posted by: frank burns | October 10, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
Ayers, Dohrn, Rev. Wright, Rev. Pfleger, Rezko — pretty unsavory list of friends, Mr. Obama. And yeah, pin that on a Republican and he’d be toast.
Posted by: Mehesha | October 10, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
When will Obama be asked about his memebership in the Democratic Socialists of America? There is documented evidence of his attendence at meetings.
(and spare us the Obamabot talking points about Alaska)
Posted by: geevill | October 10, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
“Ask the people in Chicago — Ayers is simply part of the scene”
Thank you. So is Obama. The scene is radical liberalism.
Posted by: geevill | October 10, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
I watched the news showing McCain’s interview on Fox being televised on CNN, FOX, and other networks. In the interview McCain said he wanted Obama to come out with the truth about Ayers so the public can decide. Why isn’t anyone calling out McCain on his hypocrisy on TROOPERGATE? He asks for public truth from Obama, yet he sends his lawyers to Alaska to cover up TROOPERGATE to avoid public scrutiny. Why doesn’t McCain let Palin testify about her TROOPERATE connection so the American Public can decide – the same standard he wants to apply to Obama. Do you smell hypocrisy?
I don’t want to hear this excuse that TROOPERGATE is politically motivated and that the AYERS connection isn’t. Palin was in office as a government official during TROOPERGATE while Obama was eight years old when Ayers did his despicable act. You tell me which has more validity in applying a standard of judgment — a person governing when the act was being committed or a person who was eight years old when someone else committed the act?
If judgment is what McCain is questioning about Obama, shouldn’t the American pubic question McCain’s judgment for picking a VP that may be using her powers for personal reasons? Sounds like Bush/Chaney tactic to twist the law f to protect them elves and those they surround themselves with. After all, Palin’s character could be a heart beat away from the Presidency if McCain is elected. The public deserves the truth by her testifying in front of an INDEPENDENT board, not one she picks. How many middle class citizens you know that would get away with ignoring a subpoena — hmmm, I guess if you could hire high powered lawyers to put you and your cronnies above the law, you could.
Come on, what are you afraid of McCain, the truth? McCain keeps preaching about transparency in government, but I guess that only applies to others, not himself or those he surrounds himself with.
McCain seems to wear hypocrisy as well as one of his thousand dollar suits. His campaign and campaign tactics looks more and more like the same eight years of Bush scare tactics that middle class come to despise. BUSH SCARE TACTICS MAY OF WORKED FOR THE WAR, BUT IT WON’T WORK FOR THE ECONOMY. WE SWALLOWED THE BUSH SCARE TACTIC PILL BEFORE AND THE ONLY CURE FOR THIS CANCER IS TO PUT IN OFFICE SOMEONE THAT DOESN’T REFLECT BUSH POLICIES WHILE CAMPAIGNING — WE NEED A PRESIDENT WHO BELIEVES THERE IS A BETTER WAY AND THAT SURE ISN’T THE MCCAIN’S HYPOCRISY POLICY THAT APPLIES TO EVERYONE ELSE, WHILE HE APPLIES DIFFERENT STANDARDS TO HIMSELF AND THE HYPOCRITES HE SURROUNDS HIMSELF WITH.
BRING IT ON, MCCAIN AT THE NEXT DEBATE. I DARE YOU!
Posted by: steeve | October 10, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
ACORN: Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now.
Well, at least we know now what “community organizers” do.
Posted by: SandyB | October 10, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
Someone (helloooo media) ought to take a look at the “educational reform” ideas Ayers and Obama were pushing through Annenberg. Educational reform sounds benign. Take a look at what Ayers means by reform and who got the Annenberg money. That’s Obama’s so-called executive experience. Wouldn’t want that “reform” in my public schools.
Posted by: Mehesha | October 10, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
Dear Mr. Obama!
When you first learned of these Ayers acts, why did you not run away from him as fast as you could, instead, continuing to meet w/ him, serve on boards w/ him, give speeches with him? Also, how would any sort of rehabilitation make up for what this man did?
Sincerely,
-Millions of people who you want to vote for you next month
Posted by: Chairman Maubama | October 10, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
Every time a question is asked about Obama, we get either (1) an attempt to change the subject or (2) the next in a string of evolutionary answers, to wit: He’s just a guy in my neighborhood, I didn’t know he was a terrorist, I knew he was a terrorist but thought he was rehabilitated.
I never heard the racist comments. I could never disassociate myself from him, no more so than my white grandmother.
What a load of crap.
If you had no problem associating with someone, be stand up enough to say so. But don’t insult our intelligence.
Posted by: Bob | October 10, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
Distraction and Distortion. Hate, Anger and Fear is all they’ve got.
The other members of the Annenberg Board need to issue a joint statement condemning this. Evil prospers when good men remain silent.
Posted by: thebob.bob | October 10, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
Hey folks, it’s like Rev. Wright said. Obama will do whatever he needs to do to get elected. That’s what we’re seeing.
Posted by: Marie | October 10, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
In 2002 Ayers was on the cover of some paper stomping on the flag and let me tell you to this day it pisses me right the h off because this is what those that protested the war did my Husband was drafted but Ayers daddy was a big shot like all the other kids who were protesting the city’s that were burned the roits will never be forgotten the cofins draped with flags at dover thousands some of us had no choice but Ayers did.I will never vote for a socialist.
Posted by: Bishop | October 10, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
Damn straight, Bishop.
Ayers’ dad was a big shot with a utility and got him off the hook for his murderous activities. Got the lovely Ms. Dohrn a job at Sidley Austin law firm. Dohrn got the job even though she couldn’t practice law because she had a criminal conviction…
Posted by: Marie | October 10, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
It makes me ashamed to think many of the commentators here are also Americans.
Frankly, I don’t care if Obama’s ties to Ayres are every bit as strong as Obama-haters claim. So what? He was on a board of a non-profit educational foundation with Ayres, with a lot of other people. Big Deal. He attended a Democratic political meeting in Ayres house, at which time he may or may not have known about Ayres’ past. Again, Big Deal. You get involved in politics, civic affairs or even the PTA, chances are you’ll rub elbows with some people whose past you don’t endorse. Show me some proof that Obama was making bombs in a basement with Ayres and I’ll worry about their supposed association. And need I remind everyone that Ayres was never convicted of anything? As opposed to the likes of McCain pal G. Gordon Liddy or Oliver North, who sent arms to terrorist state Iran (doesn’t providing weapons to a terrorist state make one a terrorist?). Both of them darlings of the Right, I might add.
I also take exception to all the people calling Ayres or Wright America-haters. Ayres he opposed the Vietnam war. You can do that, even in violent fashion, and love America; in fact love it so much that you resort to violent means to stop it from doing something you consider wrong. Wright has criticized the U.S. government for many things (and there is, let’s be honest, much to criticize over the years. Our ability to criticize is what makes America great). Again, not necessarily a sign you hate America. And if you look at his record of good works, he’s really more one of the first President Bush’s Thousand Points of Light or our current President’s faith-based initiatives.
Not paying your taxes, now THAT’s the work of someone who hates America.
Posted by: Marko | October 10, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
Hey Marko — Ayers got off on a technicality. His own quote is “free as a bird, guilty as sin.” Yeah, guilty of trying to kill people like policemen. And, he said quite recently that he wished he’d done more back in the day.
That’s Mr. O’s friend.
Posted by: Marie | October 10, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
Marko I haven’t met any terrorists at my PTO.
Must be strange in Chicago.
Posted by: Sonya | October 10, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
Marko have you seen Rev. Wright’s “goddamn America” video?
What do you call that?
Posted by: redstate22 | October 10, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
I’ll say it again — Ayers (Marko, take note of the correct spelling), Dohrn, Wright, Pfleger, Rezko. How many of us have a group of friends like that?
Does the man have any friends who aren’t unsavory?
Posted by: Marie | October 10, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
LTTE to the NYT from William Ibershof, the lead prosecutor of the Weatherman.
“As the lead federal prosecutor of the Weathermen in the 1970s (I was then chief of the criminal division in the Eastern District of Michigan and took over the Weathermen prosecution in 1972), I am amazed and outraged that Senator Barack Obama is being linked to William Ayers’s terrorist activities 40 years ago when Mr. Obama was, as he has noted, just a child.
Although I dearly wanted to obtain convictions against all the Weathermen, including Bill Ayers, I am very pleased to learn that he has become a responsible citizen.
Because Senator Obama recently served on a board of a charitable organization with Mr. Ayers cannot possibly link the senator to acts perpetrated by Mr. Ayers so many years ago.”
Posted by: Ryan C | October 10, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
Look at the way they spent the Annenberg money. Look at Ayers’ educational philosophy. Think about whether that’s what you want in your schools.
It’s scary stuff.
Posted by: Marie | October 10, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
Murtagh was a kid at the time Ayers and Co. tried to kill him and his family. Hid dad was a judge.
Posted by: Marie | October 10, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
Jake, you’re very smart–you realize that there won’t be a job for you in a McCain administration unless there IS a McCain administration. But how about, just once, covering something that the other 55% of Americans care about?
Posted by: Jim Sweet | October 10, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
Ayers, Wright, Dorn, Frank Marshall Davis and all of Obama’s other associates do hate America. They want to change America from the America set up by our Founding Fathers into a Marxist utopia of their own making. Just listen to them. God damn America from Rev Wright. Have you ever read Ayer’s views and Frank Marshall Davis poetry about the country? Have you ever listened to Obama himself. He says all the time that America is no what he thinks it should be and he wants to change it. He never says America is good or great. It’s always flawed. And stop with the crap about Liddy and Oliver North. They were fighting FOR America and our interests against the very kind of radical communists and stalinists that Obama and his ilk support. Ayer’s was fighting his OWN country. And bombing and killing people in his OWN country. And if Liddy and North did anything wrong, they have paid the price for it. Ayers got off on a technicality and then even went on to flippantly say something like “guilty as hell and free as a bird. Only in America” What a jerk. There is no comparison between him and Oliver North. North is a patriot. Ayer’s is an America-hating Marxist.
Posted by: yellowrose | October 10, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
Not to mention Obama’s association with ACORN, wanted across the country for voter fraud.
Now that’s community organizing!
Posted by: Marie | October 10, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
The fact Obama doesn’t think this matters tells me all I need to know about his lack of judgment. Plus, if he’s been hiding this bit of his past, what else is Obama hiding??
Posted by: Mark | October 10, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
He’s hiding his bar application and his college transcripts.
This guy couldn’t get hired by the Secret Service or FBI because of his association with Ayers and the hidden transcripts.
Wow.
Posted by: Marie | October 10, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
Tex You are known by the company you keep.
Posted by: Sonya | October 10, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
“You are known by the company you keep.”
McCain sat on the board of a group that traded arms with Iran and financed right wing death squads in Nicaragua
McCain considers Charles Keating to be a close personal friend going on several decades now.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 10, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
Go ahead folks, be useful idiots.
Whatever.
Posted by: Sonya | October 10, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
As someone else pointed out, the statute of limitations may not have run out on crimes Ayers has committed. He may still be on the lam.
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Posted by: kim STACEY | October 10, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
“I think that when people support you, it doesn’t mean that you support everything they say. Obviously, those words and those statements are statements that none of us would associate ourselves with, and I don’t believe that Senator Obama would support any of those, as well.”
– John McCain, in reference to the Jeremiah Wright controversy
Posted by: Yukon Sam | October 10, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
Look at the education reform Obama and Ayers supported with $$ through Annenberg. Folks, it wasn’t reading and writing!!!
Posted by: Marie | October 10, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
Obviously that should have been Marxism and not Maxism. Another typo.
Posted by: Yavo Lem | October 10, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
The race card again.
By the way, I don’t think the slam on universities has to do with the sciences, Professor. It’s the humanities. Look at Duke.
Posted by: Marie | October 10, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
McCain considers Charles Keating to be a close personal friend going on several decades now.
Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 10, 2008 4:52:45 PM
__________
… A close friend who has paid his dues to society…. and learned his lesson.
Obama waits until all the dirt is in before he flings HIS friends… Jeremiah, his white grandmother, Pfleger, into the crocodile pond….
WHOOOOPS!
There goes Ayers!
Who’s next?
Posted by: klondike kate | October 10, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
Obama was the impetus in back of troopergate; he sent his spies to search out all warts and scars embodied by a woman who came to the national political arena with an 80per cent approval rating from her state!
Well, that sounded like too much competition for the other newbie in town, B O, so he decided to send his goons up to Alaska and treat her like he’s treated each and every other one of his competitors.
Just never forget that Obama is the slickest of Chicago politicians… taught at the knee of an expert, Emil Jones, and fostered by the king of advertising, Herbert Axelrod!
Old slick-um…. can certainly pick=um…
But I’ll pass… or maybe write in “axelrod” as a candidate!
Posted by: klondike kate | October 10, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
I don’t recall reading that Palin released her own Troopergate report exonerating herself. That is ludicrous enough to discuss, don’t you think. Where is the public outrage at the race baiting at McCain’s rallys? Why won’t the networks call him on it? Why do they continue to smear Obama (Ayers) when they know the truth? Where is the integrity in journalism? Where are the real journalists? I think we should boycott all sites that do not treat both candidates equally. Not to do so is to condone the behavior. To paraphrase the adage, we must stand for something or we will fall for anything.
Posted by: Ihjt | October 10, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
One day we will all look back at this election season and be ashamed. In case you ever wondered, this is what racism looks like. It is the journalists assisting McCain in slandering a candidate because of his race. When was the last time that a candidate with Obama’s credentials was said to be unqualified to be president? The columns that perpetuate lies are plentiful. The writers pretend that they are informing the people, because that lets them sleep at night.
Posted by: JTIS | October 10, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
where does race come into this?
The only ones who keep bringing it up are Obama supporters…..
Is this the only platform Obama has to fall back/ off of?
Isn’t he “everyman” BI racial?
Why does it become a matter of race when someone shows up HIS warts and scars……?
Methinks Obama and his followers… protest too much!
Posted by: klondike kate | October 10, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
Obama’s Other trye friens!
This is a story we’ve largely missed. While Obama’s Acorn connection has not gone entirely unreported, its depth, extent, and significance have been poorly understood. Typically, media background pieces note that, on behalf of Acorn, Obama and a team of Chicago attorneys won a 1995 suit forcing the state of Illinois to implement the federal “motor-voter” bill. In fact, Obama’s Acorn connection is far more extensive. In the few stories where Obama’s role as an Acorn “leadership trainer” is noted, or his seats on the boards of foundations that may have supported Acorn are discussed, there is little follow-up. Even these more extensive reports miss many aspects of Obama’s ties to Acorn.
Posted by: Down Mexico Way | October 10, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
Obama’s greatest accomplishment has been to somehow convince voters that McCain (who democrats have loved for 2 decades) is the same as George Bush (who they understood was extremely different when he campaigned against McCain in 2000). Obama supporters have concentrated so much hatred on George Bush that they have not taken a close look at who it is they are supporting. They have not demanded the details of what Obama has done for even the last 10 years.
The accepted answer to the Ayers question in the primary was that Ayers was some guy that lived in Obama’s neighborhood and quit asking these “guilt by association” questions!
But Obama has an extremely limited history. By all means don’t remove his honest associations! In the absence of all associations, he has only his ability to campaign. And in the words of his former pastor, “Obama says what he says because he is a politician”.
Obama may actually benefit by having so many questionable associations. Many voters will accept his defense against any one of them and not understand how deep-rooted the others are. They may not consider that even if you believe he is not corrupt, his inability to identify corruption is a dangerous trait for a President. They may not realize that this is what they hated most about George Bush.
Nobody has suggested that Obama is “guilty” of what Ayers has done. The evidence suggests that they hold similar views. Had the public records that were finally released last week regarding his association with Ayers been available during the primary, he certainly would have lost to Hillary.
The money did not go to schools. It went to what Ayer’s referred to as radical education reform. So the question is, do you believe that Ayers selected someone with similar radical views to hand out this money?
Posted by: PJS | October 10, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
Logan Act violation??? No penalty??? Any Foreign Policy experience or knowledge???
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§ 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments.
Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.
1 Stat. 613, January 30, 1799, codified at 18 U.S.C. § 953 (2004).
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It has been alleged that during his July visit to Iraq and during discussions with the Iraqi leadership, Sen. Obama attempted to have negotiations regarding the status of troop withdrawals delayed until there was a new administration in office, either his or Sen. McCain’s. This ostensibly occurred while the Bush Administration was in fact in the process of conducting negotiations in this regard. In the interim, Sen. Obama has offered various explanations, but the basic fact is that IF he did as alleged, he should be charged with a felony under the Logan Act, above. For more information, see TexasDarlin and other blogs, plus the New York Post. Search under ‘Zebari’ and ‘Taheri’, who is the Post columnist who broke the story.
Posted by: Yavo Lem | October 10, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
It is too late for the old man and his militia gang to derail the Obama Express. Obama is very honest, very staright forward, very likeable, very sincere and above all real gentleman. He deserves to be OUR PRESIDENT, when Bush-Cheney and McCain have dumped us in to a cesspool. Bush-Cheney must be indicted for their crimes and McCain must be sent to Arizona Desert to enjoy his retirement.
Posted by: John afradi | October 10, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
PINNOCHIO……
This man’s nose would be worn out!!
NOW.. we are learning about ACORN?
And, again….more explanations…..no ties said TEAM OBAMA — what is $800,000?
How many different explanations on Ayers……I reviewed the video of the ABC debate with Hillary over Ayers. Ayers educational ties are with Chavez and that was Obama’s explanation today.
Remember how many explanations on Rev Wright? Remember what he said about his grandmother?
Isn’t everyone upset because they said Bush was so secretive? AND THIS IS MORE OF THE SAME!!!!!
PLEASE ..
LOOK AT OBAMA’S RECORD. WHAT ELSE IS GOING TO COME UP?
Posted by: Debbie | October 10, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm
>>>PJO110 | Oct 10, 2008 6:12:18 PM
Are THOSE people running for President?
Posted by: klondike kate | October 10, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
Shamefully, the media has given Obama a free pass. Obama’s associations with shady characters, ex-terrorists, and extreme socialists has been downplayed or totally ignored by the media.
During the primaries you [the media] decided that Obama was going to be the next president. What makes this travesty more outrageous is that television and radio networks using the public’s airways operate under licenses owned by us the citizens.
Who gave you the right to so flagrantly try to influence the outcome of a presidential election?
It is critical that Obama’s background be scrutinized as has been that of all other candidates. To you network executives I say, look closely at all the Wall Street executives; you might be held accountable next.
Posted by: Santiago Flores | October 10, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
This nuance of whether or not Ayers is “sufficiently” rehabilitated is midding the point. It still has nothing to do with Obama.
Obama condemned Ayers’ crimes, but was willing to work with him 40 years later to get some good things done. Obama works with a wide assortment of people all the time, whether he thinks they might have done something bad in the past is hardly relevant.
Posted by: jock59801 | October 10, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
Can you imagine Cindy McCain taking drugs from people who really needed them, shameful. Talking about that makes about as much sense as talking about Ayers.
The problem with you Republicans is you can’t go forward because you are talking backwards.
Obama all the way to the White House.
Cory
Posted by: Cory | October 10, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
Google “Steve Stoll and Sarah Palin.” Want to know who’s really pallin’ around with terrorists? As it turns out, Sarah “Joe Sixpack, hockey mom” Palin, that’s who. This story is about to break big and finish the job McCain has done of ruining his campaign. McCain blew it by picking Palin, especially now that it’s come to light that she supports terrorism on our own soil. Go ahead and read up on it now, Steve Stoll and Sarah Palin. If you aren’t a KKK member, you’ll be shocked, disgusted and frightened of this enemy combatant McCain picked as his running mate. No exaggeration here. This is terrifying stuff. Really terrifying as her ties to this group are as current as 2008.
If you really put country first, you’ll be voting OBAMA/BIDEN 2008.
Posted by: Republican Christians for Obama! | October 10, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
Of COURSE this latest version of truth is not more true than any of Obama’s earlier versions of the truth. “He’s just a guy in the neighborhood” became “He did not know who he was before they met in Ayers living room” became “They had met before his political launch but he didn’t realize it was THAT Ayers” became “He learned about his past at some point” became “I thought he had been rehabilitated.” Rehabilitated HOW, Sen. Obama? And once you knew he was NOT rehabilitated, did you disassociate yourself from him? Speak up? Go along to get along? Start figuring how to spin it when you launched your national campaign?
The folks who helped Obama get elected in Chicago (Wright, Ayers, Rezko) don’t play so well on the national stage.
Posted by: Moderate | October 10, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
I don’t recall reading that Palin released her own Troopergate report exonerating herself. That is ludicrous enough to discuss, don’t you think. Where is the public outrage at the race baiting at McCain’s rallys? Why won’t the networks call him on it? Why do they continue to smear Obama (Ayers) when they know the truth? Where is the integrity in journalism? Where are the real journalists? I think we should boycott all sites that do not treat both candidates equally. Not to do so is to condone the behavior. To paraphrase the adage, we must stand for something or we will fall for anything. Posted by: Ihjt | Oct 10, 2008 5:29:54 PM
Since we are airing candidate’s dirty laundry, how about John McCain left his disabled wife- who had lobbied extensively for his release- for Cindy, and, to add insult to injury, John’s mother sued the poor lady for wedding trinkets. How about Cindy McCain stole and was addicted to drugs that should have gone to poor children. How about she did this because John was entangled in the Keating 5 scandal. How about John McCain was involved, perhaps inappropriately, with a female lobbyist. I could go on and on, but I simply do not have the years to devote to it.
Posted by: Alright Already | October 10, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
Can someone please write to Obama and tell him what he needs to think and say this time because he keeps getting confused
Posted by: msa123 | October 10, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
This is absurd to even be in the news! I sit on a board. I have never asked any of the members what they were doing 40 years ago. Nor do I care. I care what they are doing now.
It is hard to believe how easily Americans can be led.
As somebody wiser than me said: It is all about the excellence of marketing and the gullibility of the people.
Posted by: Truth Matters | October 10, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm
Why did David Axelrod, Obama’s senior campaign official tell us that Obama did not know Ayers was a terrorist? Then we here that Obama knew but thought he was “rehabilitated” and now he doesn’t think he was rehability.
Michelle Obama worked with Dorhn @ Austin Sibley until Dorhn left the firm after she could not be admitted to the Chicago bar – she would not appologize. Michelle Obama left Austin Sibley to go to work for Mayor Daley and Bill Ayers was working with Mayor Daley on the same issues at the same time.
ABSleeze spends all its time spinning for Obama. There is absolutely no attempt to report the facts. Shamefull.
Posted by: ubu1991 | October 11, 2008, 7:51 am 7:51 am
Mr. board member and others — put aside the association with ayers theme and LOOK at what obama and ayers did with the annenberg money. this was not some benign activity funding the three Rs. Their idea of “education reform” was to fund one radical group after another. Not what I’d want in my school and I’ll bet not what most other Americans would want either. Look at it! That alone is reason to qustion Mr. O’s so-called executive experience, even if Ayers weren’t a terrorist.
Quit accepting what the media keeps calling “education reform.” It wasn’t. And by the way, it did not good. Millions wasted. Annenberg is probably spinning in his grave.
Posted by: maureen | October 11, 2008, 9:42 am 9:42 am
Get real. Obama got hired for Annenberg board by Ayers, he supported the radical grants the board made, he gave a glowing review of Ayers’ America-hating book on criminal justice and Ayers and his awful wife launched Obama’s career at their house.
And we’re supposed to believe this doesn’t mean something? How dumb do they think the public is?
Mr. Clueless ought to be run out of town on a rail.
Posted by: holly | October 11, 2008, 9:49 am 9:49 am
Old news people. Ayers is old news. New news? Palin found guilty of ethics violation in Alaska.
So you can keep harping on an old 60′s nut case…or you can talk about someone who abuses their power running for VP.
Which one has an impact on your life today huh??
Posted by: Greg in MN | October 11, 2008, 10:05 am 10:05 am
so let me get this straight greg. you think a drunk who tasers kids ought to have a gun and a badge? that’s who you want in law enforcment?
wow
Posted by: maureen | October 11, 2008, 10:12 am 10:12 am
To Wow,
You have taken the side of Powerful against the weaker although there is no proof that the trooper did the things that Ms Palin said he did.
It It seems that ‘fair justice for all’ are words foreign to the extreme right.
GREED and DISHONESTY are illnesses
Posted by: Noted | October 11, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am
The Ayers-McCain connection.
They both received money from the Annenbergs. Should McCain denounce the Annenbergs who hired Ayers. Should he claim that the Annebergs suppport domestic terrorism? Why has McCain not returned the money he received from the Annenbergs? Annenberg was an Ambassador during the Reagan years.
Why has McCain not denounced or returned the money he has received from CAC Board member and former Nixon Assistant Secretary of Labor Arnold Weber?
Posted by: Mr. Unite Us | October 11, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am
Who is John McCain?
Yesterday after a week of hateful anti-Obama events, McCain told supporters that Obama is a decent man, and that that they shouldn’t be scared if Obama becomes Presidents. But McCain approves the ads that claim Obama supports terrorism.
Posted by: MrUniteUs | October 11, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am
to Noted — the original reports on the drunk trooper document the tasering.
Posted by: maureen | October 11, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
I am praying that the republican nightmare is finally ending and along with it, their attitudes and strategies of promoting guilt by association, rumor mongering, character assassination, fear mongering, xenophobia, and racism, as well as anti-intellectualism. My grandmother told me in 1960 that only bad will happen when the republicans gain power, and I have found that to be true. I am also hopeful the media will stop coddling the ultra right wing conservatives, just because they slam their fist on the table and scream about being treated unjustly – when their stupid ideas are actually called stupid. Most of the ultra conservative philosophies, from creationism to trickle down economics have been leading to the destruction of all the great principles that have created the greatest country in the world.
Raising associations with Ayes – an aging professor, who wants to hold onto the romantic notion that his efforts forty years ago, as violent and unacceptable as they were, somehow made a difference in the Vietnam debate for the good – is a very sad example of the desperate lengths the conservative movement is willing to go to try to assassinate someone’s character via an association for political gain. Ayes had no impact on the debate on the Vietnam war. He is a person of absolute insignificance on the world and national stages. And by now history has shown that his violent activities (as with all terrorist attacks) only served to hurt the very cause he claimed to promote. Terrorism is always the choice of the faithless coward.
In many ways Ayers stubborn inability to fully renounce those activities and see them for what they are is a reflection of John McCain’s unwillingness to disassociate him with the failed conservative policies that he has lived all his live espousing and believing. HE STILL WANTS TO USE THESE SAME STRATEGIES today, to deal with the very crisis they created. At least Ayers is willing to concede that violent civil protests may not have been the best choice (yea, he is getting close, but no cigar yet). I feel sorry for both men, at least Ayers seems close to an epiphany and maybe he will realize someday soon that his violent activities were antithetical, hypocritical and anti-productive given his stated goals. I do not think John will ever have such a moment.
Just so we are clear, I am in no way trying to say that John’s conservatism is the same as Ayers terrorism. Ayers tried to arrogantly and illegally take matters in his own hands, did not participate in a debate, and had insufficient faith in the correctness of his own beliefs leading him to selfishly and cowardly acts that threaten people’s lives: he was just lucky he never killed anyone. His activities were arrogant and self centered. John McCain is a far nobler human being who has given this country his dedication, service and honorably contributes to the debate in this country (well except for a few rather sleazy negative ads out there in TV land that I have to tolerate every five seconds in my battleground state).
Posted by: will | October 11, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
I’ve heard that Obama is paling around with the descendants of civil war veterans as well. Unrepentant terrorists from the civil war who were given amnesty for their terroristic acts against the sovereign nation of America! And he wants their descendants to vote for him. He even invites the descendants of civil war terrorists into his very own home!
Posted by: Vietnam Protester | October 11, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
Do you know the backgrounds of everyone you associate with? I can guarantee you that you don’t.
This Ayers thing is just a ludicrous witch hunt.
Perhaps you should question McCain as to why the Annenbergs donated to him? They are the ones who had Ayers on their board. They must be terrorists and these terrorists are funding McCain! Oh, my!!
You people make me sick trying to put down a good man like Barack Obama.
You people make me sick trying to demonize ACORN. A bi-partisan organization that has been around for many years that helps poor people. An organization that was following the laws and reported the suspicious registrations but had to turn them in by law. Whose to say a Republican plant wasn’t put into the group to purposely make out false registrations? Eh? It’s not beneath a Republican to do something like that. Republicans even eat their own. Look what the Bush campaign did to McCain when he ran before.
Go ahead and vote against your own best interest. Give more to the rich and kick the poor in the teeth. Our founding fathers will once more roll in their graves.
Posted by: MargaretO | October 12, 2008, 6:33 am 6:33 am
It is not just Obamas relationship with Ayers; it is also his involvement with Rev. Wright, Tony Risko, Father Flagran and Khalidi (that we know of) that is of great concern; these people are radicals to the core. If Obama is elected, he will need to fill over 3000 positions in his administration; who do you think will come calling for him to return the favors to these people for helping him to get to where he is?
In his book, Audacity of Hope, Obama said, “I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”
The saying is very true: you become the company you keep!
Posted by: Questionable relationships | October 13, 2008, 9:08 am 9:08 am
I THINK THAT THE COMIC MEANT THAT IN ADDITION TO THE WEATHERMEN, AYERS FELT THAT THE AMERICAN PUBLIC AGAINST THE VIETNAM WAR DID NOT DO ENOUGH TO END THE WAR. HE DID NOT RECOMMEND THE METHODS HE THOUGHT THEY SHOULD HAVE IMPLEMENTED.
THE ISSUE IS NOT WHETHER AYERS IS CORRECT OR NOT, IT IS TO TAKE UP THE CAMPAIGN IMPUGNING OBAMA AND NOT DISCUSSING REAL ISSUES THAT CONCERN THE UNITED STATES’ ELECTORATE.
Posted by: chris in chicago | October 14, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm