Gun Group Accuses Obama Campaign of Swiping Its E-mail List

Yeah, Obama will say he didn’t know anything about this too.
In a rally in Indiana today Obama gave a shout out to ACORN. Yes, senator ACORN is a cheater just like you.
He hates the first ammendment, the second ammendment whatelse is coming?
Obama is turning out to be a nightmare.

Look at the letter. They sent it CC addressed to Barak H. Obama. That sort of hurts the credibility of the group’s complaint, considering they can’t spell his name correctly. I mean, it’s only been on national TV and on the front page of every newspaper every day for the last 21 months. Apparently gun rights don’t accompany spelling skills or funding for a quick proofread before sending a letter to a guy who most likely will be President of the U.S.

It’s probably someone from their own organization. I forwarded some emails and had to be sure that I wasn’t using a list from a cooperative that requires permission. Probably someone being unmindful so don’t jump to conclusions.

Oh Come on!!! This is an old trick!! How dumb do they think Americans are to fall for this too!!! Tell them “Hi” and invite them to come join the honest side!! I have 2 Vizslas and would love to go hunting. Grandpa who I bred was top AKC stud dog – #2 in Nation. Grand dam is dual champion!! Have male and female. Please contact me. Love to go hunting!!
These Karl Rove Tactics are so old hat!! This is 2008!! Obama will never take guns away from sports groups!! I am sure not scared.
Plus I am sure not willing to let McCain deregulate health care. Yes, he will – I am medical professional and understand the disaster that will happen!! No companies will offer health care eventually under his plan. Tax Incentive is taken away. People are are own!! Tax deduction means nothing since health care costs increase 8-10% per year. Whoops people will not only have to pay $7000 to start it goes up 8-10% more every year. No automatic increases at all!!
McCain idea of starting 401K under Social Security is a death sentence for social security. A defined benefit plan can not survive without new money coming in. Financially impossible!! All social security benefits will be gone in just a few years. Bankrupt. Insurance Pension Guarantee Company will only pay all people a much lower lump sum payout. Plan termination. Social Security gone!! I Understand ERISA quite well- especially defined benefit plan which social security is. Studied it for three year.

When Obama devotees call McCain slanderous names, it has to be a good sign.
Keep it up, folks, it emboldens our side.

Obama probably will claim he joined the Democratic Socialists of America because he thought it was a social club.

The National Shooting Sports Foundation — the trade association for the hunting, shooting sports, firearms, and ammunition industry…
Let’s see… so we must believe these right-wing neocon gun-loving lobbyist organization.
OMG, do you thin we are stupid. This is so obvious…

Interesting. So, what about the DOW today?

John McCain has turned this race into the dirtiest form of debate. When you can’t beat ‘em fairly assassinate their character. I am now funding the liberal 527′s to start dumping all of the McCain/Palin dirty laundry on the American public. John’s got so many skeletons in his closet this will be fun.

Real Republicans will not vote for mccain

What about Palin’s e-mails, Jake?
NYT: Palins Repeatedly Pressed Case Against Trooper
The NY Times is reporting tonight that Walt Monegan received over 3 dozen calls from the Palins and aides calling for the removal of Mike Wooten, Palin’s ex-brother in-law.
The bombshell which is preceding tomorrow’s release of the official report into Troopergate offers more details into the sordid affair with recollections of specific events that finger Sarah Palin’s involvement in pressuring her public safety commissioner to fire her ex-brother in law.
Ms. Palin has denied that anyone told Mr. Monegan to dismiss Mr. Wooten, or that the commissioner’s ouster had anything to do with the trooper. But an examination of the case, based on interviews with Mr. Monegan and several top aides, indicates that, to a far greater degree than was previously known, the governor, her husband and her administration pressed the commissioner and his staff to get Mr. Wooten off the force, though without directly ordering it.
The story makes it clear that there was direct contact from Gov. Palin herself regarding this case.
In all, the commissioner and his aides were contacted about Mr. Wooten three dozen times over 19 months by the governor, her husband and seven administration officials, interviews and documents show.
“To all of us, it was a campaign to get rid of him as a trooper and, at the very least, to smear the guy and give him a desk job somewhere,” said Kim Peterson, Mr. Monegan’s special assistant, who like several other aides spoke publicly about the matter for the first time.
Needless to say, this is a huge story.

Looks like the curtain is falling pretty fast for Palin.
The Alaskan public safety commissioner fired by Sarah Palin was contacted three dozen times over 19 months by the governor and her staff, who were pressuring him to get Palin’s former brother-in-law, a state trooper, off the force, reports the New York Times.
At one point, the commissioner Walter Monegan got a phone call from the director of Palin’s Anchorage office asking that the trooper, Mike Wooten, not be assigned to work at a state fair in 2007, where he had volunteered for duty in full costume as “Safety Bear,” a child-friendly mascot.
The reason provided by the gubernatorial aide was that Palin “was also planning to attend and did not want the trooper nearby.”
Monegan claims that he was fired because he failed to remove Wooten, who was engaged in a brutal child custody battle with Palin’s sister.
“I thought to myself, ‘Man, do they have a heavy-duty network and focus on this guy,’” Monegan told the Times.
Palin’s aides also discussed Wooten with Monegan’s successor, Chuck Kopp during pre-employment conversations. “Is there anything you can do?” an aide asked Kopp.

What is most disturbing to me about Obama is that his lofty rhetoric does not match up with his actual record. Take taxes, Obama says he will decrease the taxes of 95% of the population which on its face sounds good. Problem is Obama’s record shows he has never supported lowering the taxes of anyone. In fact just the opposite, Obama has consistently voted to raise taxes every chance he got.
Obama stated in the last debate that he tried to warn people about the Fannie Freddie meltdown, problem is there is no record of his actually doing that. Than Obama claimed that McCain was for less regulation when in fact McCain supported more regulation of Fannie and Freddie in 2005 and all of the Democrats blocked the bill.
Than there is the Ayers issue. Obama said that Ayers “was just a guy in my neighborhood” when if fact he finally had to admit to Gibson on ABC that he knew Ayers for 10 to 15 years. Obama was the chair of the Annenberg Challenge that Ayers founded and under Obama’s chairmanship, thousands of dollars were funneled to Ayers radical education projects whose purpose was to overthrow the capitalistic system in America, as Ayers stated last year in an interview in the UK.
The aforementioned are just a few of examples of Obama’s track record of saying something that sounds pretty good that is the exact opposite of his actually track record or just out and out lying. Sadly, many people that are supporting Obama just hear the soaring rhetoric and are unlikely to check out the facts. However, nothing is more important than finding out that what Obama says is the direct opposite of what he has been actually been doing.
Thomas Sowell: “The old phrase, “a man of high ideals but no principles,” is one that applies all too painfully to Barack Obama today. His words expressing lofty ideals may appeal to the gullible but his long history of having no principles makes him a danger of the first magnitude in the White House.”

Of course they won’t respond for a comment, Jake. They got caught yet again and until they come up with an air tight denial or some new way to shift the focus to McCain and the “failed policies of the last 8 years” (LOL, that one’s ran into the ground), the media will just play it off as trivial.
Be forewarned. This is just the beginning. He’s not even elected yet and already they’re stealing lists of possible gun owners for future use. That knock at the door and Obama’s Youth will be demanding your guns since they erroneously believe guns=crime, when the reality of it is crooked liberal politician=highest crime rate state.
The Tide is Turning!

McCain is really inciting HATE with his supporters. It is getting so bad that CNN is predicting that there will be violence.

LOL, Jake, a regular fan club of wanna be reporters you have on this post. In response to the very specific theme of your article, the only thing these posters can do is come back with Palin this and Palin that. Sheeple are as their master does.

“obamas behavior appears to suggest that he has no allegiance or respect to american legal processes.”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
No and that must be very typical for the former President of the Harvard Law Review…. LOL
Bust most of you GOP fools wouldn’t even know what the HLR is, how FAMOUS and highly respected it is around the world – and how prestigious its presidency, only reserved for the brightest among the brightest
such as our next POTUS

Ayers is for over throwing America as we know it. And he has lots of friends who feel the same way. There is no mistake in grouping Ayers, Rev. Wright, Farakan, and Obama’s supporters in the middle east all under the same anti-American tent.

hurt – there is no reason to call anyone a fool on this list. We are spending the time to talk to you.

“Ayers is for over throwing America as we know it.”
Is he?
Last time people checked he was hard working and well respected Prof at Chicago University, involved in education programs, charity etc.
You guys fantasize too much. This ain’t Disney.

landsend, i hope obama never produces a vault birth certificate, whatever that might be.
justin, have you been on another planet? the war in iraq costs more than a billion a month. do you think the chinese give us the money for the war because they like us? they own us. obama is not going to put us into another great depression. bush, with his inbelievable stupidity built the largest deficit the country has ever seen. john mccain’s economic advisor, phil gramm, shoved credit default swaps (called weapons of financial mass destruction by warren buffett) down america’s throat. the republican executives ran away with million dollar bonuses for their stupidity and we are going to pay for it our whole lives. don’t try to blame it on obama.

“Last time people checked he was hard working and well respected Prof at Chicago University, involved in education programs, charity etc.”
Exactly. Compare that to what all the bullying posters here do with their lives…

You guys must be talking about the Ayers from South Dakota working in the AIDS clinic. The Ayers the rest of us are talking about is the guy who bombed the Pentagon. When questioned a couple years ago about the bombings, he said that he had not done enough.
If you do not like talking about him, we can talk about the Liberation Theology crowd that Obama hangs around with. Rev. Wright is the most visible one of those racists that you have probably seen.
Wright of course is a backer of Farrakhan – another lovely racist.

Michele Obama worked with Ayers wife, Bernadeen Doren (also a terrorist) at a law office. The relationship between these people goes way back.

by the time the election takes place, McCain will
have ‘proof’ that Obama was involved in the Kennedy assasination and the baby Lindberg kidnapping…

Blue spake “by the time the election takes place, McCain will
have ‘proof’ that Obama was involved in the Kennedy assasination and the baby Lindberg kidnapping…”
Not to worry Blue, if worse were to be discovered, it would not change your vote.
If some one said they were going to make America more like other coutries would that change your vote? What would it take to change your vote? Are you taking in any of the information?

How can voter registration add up to 105% of one state’s whole population?
I’m confused.

follow the money
“Michele Obama worked with Ayers wife, Bernadeen Doren (also a terrorist) at a law office. The relationship between these people goes way back.”
RFLOL .. This is laughable
Dohrn:
From 1984 to 1988, Dohrn was employed by the prestigious Chicago law firm Sidley Austin.[19]
Michelle Obama -
Following law school, she was an associate at the Chicago office of the law firm Sidley Austin, where she first met her husband. At the firm, she worked on marketing and intellectual property.
With other words.. they never met at the law firm.. And waht about the law firm.
With o
Sidley Austin LLP, formerly known as Sidley Austin Brown & Wood LLP, is one of the oldest law firms in the world. It is the sixth-largest U.S.-based corporate law firm with over 1,800 lawyers, annual revenues of more than one billion dollars, and offices in 16 cities worldwide, with the most recent addition of Sydney, Australia, in May 2007.
Another Republican lie Debunked!

Who cares about Farrakhan?
4 in 5 world citizens endorse Obama.
Warren Buffett endorses Obama.
A record number of 63 Nobel Prize winners endorse Obama.
ESQUIRE just endorsed Obama.
Bob Dylan endorses Obama.
Many millions of Americans endorse Obama.
The whole of Europe endorses Obama.
A large majority of US newspapers endorse Obama.
Would be pretty remarkable if Farrakhan did NOT endorse Obama. But who cares?

“A large majority of US newspapers endorse Obama.”
No kiddin’?
Don’t elect a man your friends love, rather, elect a man your enemies hate.

mara, If Obama had got his way, Al Qaeda would have won in Iraq and with access to all of Iraq’s oil reserves, Al Qaeda would have the means and opportunity to attack us plus use the money to develop nukes. Further, if the US had not invaded Iraq, Saddam would still in power and we would be dealing with two hostile Nations, Iran and Iraq, in the process of developing nukes.
Evidence obtained from Saddam’s files shows that he had every intention of restarting his WMD program as he did not think the US would invade him. Saddam thought the US was a “paper tiger” just like Osama did. He was wrong.
If Obama had got his way and the US had backed down and not invaded Iraq, all of the terrorists in the Middle East including Al Qaeda, Saddam, Iran, would have realized that the US did not have the balls to attack them. Than what? Answer: You can bet your bottom dollar, the terrorists of the world would have no fear of the US and we would have been attacked again by now.

Todd Palin’s membership in (and Sarah Palin’s videotaped praise for) an Alaskan secessionist group with militia ties whose founder sought to speak against the United States at the U.N. in an arrangement between himself and Iran and who was killed in a “plastic explosives deal gone bad” a month after Waco.
oh my….

I am enjoying the list of people who supposedly endorse Obama. You left off Barbara Streisand. I was going to hold out to hear who Celine Dion endorsed – OK, I actually like her.

Change we all need. Send Senator Obama and his socialist agenda back to his corrupt Chicago home. The Democrats are the responsible party for our economic chaos. This has been stated by many economic/financial advisors and even the talking heads on TV. It is the reason the DOW keeps dropping. It looks like Obama may be elected and no one trust him with our economy. His higher taxes will curtail any economic growth. Those who pay no taxes are not investing in stocks, companies or new jobs.
ACORN and Obama’s association is not good news. There are voter fraud problems in 20 states where ACORN has been working. The FBI is now investigating. One person said he filled out 74 voter registration forms supplied by ACORN. And today, an ACORN worker were telling people to vote for Obama on video tape. Senator Obama’s campaign paid $800,000 to this corrupt group and all federal funding has been cut off.
Senator Obama and his supporters sees nothing wrong in proven corruption, fraud or lies. HE IS THE GREAT ONE.

What about Senator McCain’s relationship with his chief campaign advisor Charlie Black who said a terrorist attack would help the campaign?
What about Senator McCain’s association with Shelley Shannon who is accused of shooting and wounding an abortion doctor?
What about Senator McCain’s association with Charles Keating? What about his association with Freddie Mac lobbyist Rick Davis — you know, John McCain’s campaign manager?

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When Michelle was an intern at that law firm. Ms. (I have a bomb) Dohrn was her mentor. They also supposedly worked on a mentoring program at the University of Chicago.
”
THEY NEVER MET.
Dohrn and Michelle worked at the law firm at different times..

George W. Bush’s family has financial ties with the Bin Ladens

John McCain, in his interview with Charlie Gibson, hiding behind the words of yet another woman in order to advance his smears..

It is this Pentecostal association that most concerns and confuses the McCain campaign. As Minnery makes clear, millions of Evangelicals have accepted Palin because of her membership in a Bible church. But there is no denying that mainstream Evangelicals and Pentecostals, while political allies on many social issues, have historically had significant tensions over theological differences. The Evangelicals’ swoon for Palin might fade if it turns out that she continues to hold fast to Pentecostal practices and beliefs.

gene:
“anger, hate, fear and violence”
it’s REPUBLICAN America…..in all it’s hatred and xenophobic glory

i cannot understand how anyone who calls themselves republican-can, after this long nightmare of eight years of george bush, even consider voting for mccain.
when i look at the people standing behind mccain at these rallys, i wonder, are any of these people losing their jobs, their health insurance,their homes?
after eight years george bush, with strong support of mccain, has just about ruined every area of the working middle class person life.
how in the world can these people afford to even take a chance on a possible four more years?

concerned:
This sheriff is going to be disciplined and possibly fired for wearing his uniform while making a political endorsement with this inflamatory statement.
but hey… doesn’t count if it’s illegal as long as he did it for the Repubs…

omg – despite what Obama has told you McCain and Palin are not Bush and Cheney. It also comes down to which America do you want in the future.

follow;
I’ve got nothing against them…..but….. since everyone’s associations past and present now matter, lets make religious affiliations the next big thing… I mean.. isn’t Obama supposed to be the anti-christ or whatever the new nonsense email says…..

if it is a lie, mccain told it.
he has been supporting, selling, proping up bush at every turn.
it did not take obama’ campaign to tell me john mccain was and is in full support of george bush and what he has and does stand for.
good smart thinking republicans are pulling back and regrouping, george bush has tarnished the republican brand,
but good republicans will get it together again. but not with mccain.
when mccain gave that housing idea,
good republican in my neighborhood, almost exploded.
what foolishness.
mccain needs to pull some of the people who manage his wife’ money in and put them to work on an economic plan to help the people, and get off of the bill ayers and such. leave that to
“Enquiring minds want to know”
let the tabloids handle that stuff.
mccain find some good economist, put your head down and come up with a sound plan.
mccain supporters, please start asking your candidate to do something that is really going to help the american people all of us.
get out of the tabloid business.

* 10/9: Gallup Pres-Tracker: Obama 52%, McCain 41%
* 10/9: Hotline/Diageo Pres-Tracker: Obama 47%, McCain 41%
* 10/9: Rasmussen Pres-Tracker: Obama 50%, McCain 45%
* 10/9: Res. 2000 Pres-Tracker: Obama 51%, McCain 41%
* 10/9: Zogby Pres-Tracker: Obama 48%, McCain 44%
* 10/9: Civitas (R) NC: Obama 48%, McCain 43%
* 10/9: Str. Vision (R) FL: Obama 52%, McCain 44%
* 10/9: Str. Vision (R) OH: Obama 48%, McCain 46%
* 10/9: Rasmussen NC: Obama 49%, McCain 48%
* 10/9: Rasmussen FL: Obama 50%, McCain 47%

well, palin wants to be just like cheney, but with more power.
and we all know mccain is all the way in the tank with bush.
and i have not needed obama to tell me that.
mccain has not laid out any vision for america.
i want an america that is respected aroud the world again, and not because we have the biggest guns and know how to use them, but because we do have the big guns, and we can afford to try and get along with the rest of the world,
we are all on this one planet together.
and we cannot fight everyone.
mccain plays to people fears, and base nature.
the republican after eight years of george, need to regroup, and the smart, think republicans are doing just that.
regrouping.

Blue, What about Obama’s association with:
Rev Wright
Tony Rezko
Louis Farrakhan
William Ayres
Bernadine Dorhn
Rashid Khalidi
Nadhmi Auchi
Frank Marshall Davis
Saul Alinsky
Father Pfleger
Kwame Kilpatrick
Rev Meeks
George Soros
Raila Odingo
Abongo Obama
Black Panthers
Ahmad Yousuf (Hamas)

Justin – Sorry to be so slow. I have this life -and family – and kids. Pretty much nothing you said was backed up by any facts and none of it was accurate. The Iraqis hated Al Qaeda at the time we invaded, and had hated Sunnis for centuries. The Iraqis did not have weapons of mass destruction and no reliable source has shown that they did – or that they had the ability to devlop them. After 4000 American lives and billions of dollars, however, AL Qaeda not only has a stronghold in Iraq, – where they would have been tortured and murdered before the war- there is a strong resurgence in Afghanistan. After 4000 deaths and billions of dollars – we do not have control of Iraq’s oil reserves. The Kurds control some – but the majority is still divided between factions in Basra – and we are not one of the factions. If we had control, oil would not be topping $100/barrel.
What we have done in Iraq is destroy our economy, lose our allies, strengthen our enemies and build a Sharia government in Iraq, which overrules constitutional law – and build closer ties between Iran and Iraq than anyone ever thought possible. The ceasefire in Basra, which occurred during McCain’s visit, was negotiated in Iran – by an Iranian cleric. What we have done in Afghanistan is pull out again, allow opium to become its main economic product, allow Bin Laden to escape and allow time for the Taliban to rebuild. There is no victory. I hate Osama Bin Laden – but he must be laughing in his cave. He didn’t need another attack. All he needed was George Bush – and John McCain lives in a fantasy world where he offers nothing but the same.

Blah, blah. Polls don’t mean squat. The questions are rigged, the pollsters are Dems, the areas of polling are pro-O, etc.
I got polled two days ago. The pollster continued to push “So, even though McCain is guilty of blah blah, you’d still vote for him?” Several of those types of questions.

Aussie – I feel so much better about the terrorist Ayers because of your lovely bit on him. Could you also put together pieces on Rev. Wright and maybe Farrakhan, too. It would make us all feel so much better.

Excuse me Mr. Obama, I mean Senator Obama, sir. Um . . . know you are busy and important and stuff. I mean running for president is very important and . . . ah . . . I hate to bother you. I will only take a minute ok, sir?
See, I have these missing pieces that are holding me up, and I was wondering sir, if you could take time out of your busy schedule and help me out. You know, no big deal, just some loose ends and things.
Could you help me please find these things, sir?
. Your Occidental College records
. Your Columbia College records
. Your Columbia Thesis paper
. Your Harvard College records
. Your Selective Service Registration
. Your medical records
. Your Illinois State Senate records
. Your Illinois State Senate schedule
. Your Law practice client list
. A Certified Copy of your original Birth certificate
. Your embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth
. Your Harvard Law Review articles that were published
. Your University of Chicago scholarly articles
. Your Record of baptism
Why has Obama refused to release these basic documents?
With little more than 22 days to go, Team Obama has not yet released the following fairly routine requests for documents. Surely we, the People have the right to know who we are going to entrust with our country before we give him the keys to the White House.
1. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate
2. Columbia College records
3. Columbia Thesis paper
4. Certification of Live Birth showing where born
5. Harvard College records
6. Illinois State Senate records
7. Illinois State Senate schedule
8. Law practice client list and billing records/summary
9. Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mothers
10. Medical records (only the one page summary released so far)
11. Occidental College records
12. Parent’s Marriage Certificate
13. Record of baptism
14. S elective Service Registration
15. Trips schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007
16. Scholarly articles
17. Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups

follow the money,
I don’t think my post was lovely I just wanted a little truth so people know what is real and whats spin…
Calling Ayers unrepentent is false if one cares to look at facts…Perhaps one doesn’t thats your right!

You are arging about someone Obama was on a board with who did something dreadful and wrong – when Obama was 9 years old while our country turns into a banana republic. Our economy is collapsing. The divide beween the rich and the poor is the largest it has been in decades. Food stamp requests are the highest they have been since 1970. Unemployment is the highest it has been in 5 years – and the impact of the Wall Street collapse has not even begun to hit Main Street. And you are arguing about someone Obama might have known casually? Do you really think you will change votes? The slander and the lies and the hatred are not working. Did you watch John McCain in the debate? Have you seen the lynch-rallies Sarah Palin speaks at? A woman who is running for Vice President cannot speak in the English language, believes wars are a “task from God” is a closet end-of-days evangelical and that Alaska will be a good place for the rapture – and is married to someone who belonged to a party which wanted Alaska to secede from the union, and you are looking for commies under your beds because of OBAMA? There is a lot more to worry about than this tripe.

It’s no use, Bahaya. Both Obama and his campaign have doubletalked their way around those documents because it’s a distraction away from the real issues like the economy. FYI, mystery man Obama. You can’t deal with the economic problem at the moment, neither can McCain. You have neither the experience to know what will work and whoever is elected will certainly have people who will handle it far better than you. So man up to the questions and enough of this doubletalk.

“Obama was 9 years old while our country turns into a banana republic.”
More of Obama’s doubletalk. We don’t care if you were 9. We’re talking about the Ayers you’ve known since you’ve been on two committees with the man who invited you to his home and suddenly convinced you to run for office.

Concerned in OH
re: “A few years into 0bamanation and they won’t be worth the paper they’re printed on.”
as opposed to now, under a Republican presidency and economic policies?

“we don’t know much about sarah palin”
Again, another Dem excuse for Obama.
Hello, Sarah is running for VP, Obama is running for Pres. Big difference.

Hm, I guess it must have got cut off on your screen. What I said was “We don’t care that you (Obama) was 9 years old.” Because that isn’t the point of the connection.

Yhea the more ruthless Obama camp gets you know they are getting scared, there getting scared because they know the biggest surprise hasn’t even hit the people yet….Just wait until that one comes out, let me guess Obama will remain clueless about that one as well…. Well if Obama is not aware of these people and their backgrounds and choose to associate with them anyways, that’s a huge RED FLAG. I persoanly don’t want someone running this country that can not detect an AMERICAN terroist in his back yard….

emm,
i thought you were someone to have some type of conversation with.
but after reading some of your last post,
you must be “barking” mad.
and jackie allen,
you might be living in the same neighborhood with a ter.
who would have taken tim mcvey to be a terrorist?

what’s up ABC? even cnn (who is in the tank for obama) is reporting that obama donated 800 thou to acorn thur an arm org to register people…the probe now involves at least 12 states. the allegations are serious and they implicate acorn with fraud. yet abc is keeping mum on one of the biggest stories of this election cycle? i’am dissappointed ABC. imagine if this was a republican group committing this crime, it would be front page…

some of these people who refuse to try to decide about who to vote for based on the issues, but instead want the long list of things such as bahaya has listed, are also people who believe;
-9/11=inside job
-jfk,rfk, mlk,mm, and elvis are all still alive on a island somewhere.
-katrina was a punishment from god
-saddam hussein had wmd
-iraq was associated with 9/11
-man did not go to the moon-just a hoax
-tales of big foot are true-and that picture was real
-believe john mccain should be president just because he was a pow
-sarah palin should be vp/president because-”she is just like me”
-believe they are qualified to be president.
(they are probally right because, if bush could do it, they can to)

McCain is the ‘manchurain candidate’ for the likes of James Dobson & Focus on the Family and the other ‘christian identity’ theocrats.

Look like some group is looking for attention, they always looking for it one way or the other this time around election .
too bad for them this will fall on deaf ears whatever it is . people are wrap up in everyday matters thats more serious.

Emm? I wasn’t 9. Obama was 9. There is virtually no evidence that Bill Ayers convinced Barack Obama to run for office or that Obama shared any of his political opinions. On the other hand – there is ample evidence which shows that Todd Palin, who is evidently very close to Sarah Palin, believed that Alaska should secde from the United States of America, and there is written evidence (with witnesses) that the founder of the AIP hated America and was willing to engage in armed conflict with Americans if he felt like it. That is called treason. They were not school children. They were adults. There is also evidence – and no way around it – that John McCain accepted money from a man who stated that the Branch Davidians should “shoot at the heads” of federal agents because otherwise they might survive. McCain not only accepted contributions from this convicted felon, he held a fundraiser at his home in 1998 – again – when he was an adult and was completely aware of his donor’s wingnut views. The man’s name is Gordon Liddy, John McCain considers him a fine man (it’s on tape) and Liddy is a domestic terrorist. John McCain has also called Reverend Hagee his “spiritual advisor.” Reverend Hagee believes that the Cathoic Church is an agent of Satan. There are 70 million American Catholics.
These are not passing relationships – or conjectures. Todd Palin identified himself as an AIP member and Sarah Palin attended meetings. The founder was a violent man who threatened Americans – and was absolutely and completely unrepetent. These statements and actions happened while the Palins and McCains were adults and had full knowledge of the opinions of the people they chose to “pal” around with. And I am not even going to get started on the wingnut Mugee. Want to guess how long end-of-days Sarah attended that church? The Catholic-hating, end-of-world in our lifetime church? 28 years.

alex addtionally i would like to remind you that it was ivy league educated, insider, east coast geniuses, that have brought our economy to the brink of collapse.
as or me i will settle for the ticket with the citizen politician out of alaska. and a man who loves his country above all else. for me the choice is clear mccain/palin 08

Do the research, I personally find researching different things quite intresting, however if you want the information seek and you shall find if your serioius about what your looking for….
And for those who keep saying that people should not be linking Obama to Ayers because what Ayers did was when Obama was 9 years old… If Obama didn’t do his homework before serving on some board with someone and finding out the truth about who they were and what they’ve done. Obama must have had a clue, it’s not like it wasn’t on the news. Obama is only a few weeks younger then my-self and I heards about william Ayers, heck a lady that stayed under the radar all those years ago was apperhended about 10 miles from where I live today. She had a family, kids and grand kids, she had a good life that didn’t keep her from doing time in prison, she is still doing that time, one of the bombings she took part in bombing someone died. He was somone’s daddy, someone’s husband, someone’s son, and someone’s brother…. whether she feel’s bad about it now isn’t realavent… However, Ayers and his wife sat here on public T.V. and announced that they didn’t feel they did enough and wished they had done more, I suppose Obama isn’t aware of that either let me guess he didn’t see the interview.
Well if you want to know what’s coming up ask Obnama what eles he is hiding that he has attempted to surpress, then you’ll have your answer. I myself have already shared the info. I came across with those who were willing to look at it. If you think that I am as naive as Obama to share it with people via the internet you are nutso…. Just to let you know the internet is not the media you should be searching, because Obama and his cohorts have scrubbed a lot of pages. But there are places that they just can not get to in the amount of time they have had…. But if your a student you have so much information at your disposal…. Happy hunting.

Jackie Allen
Aussie has a good post earlier I think you should read!

OMG! OMG! OMG! NO say it isn’t so!
Must be their members are all out of work now and can’t pay the dues, so thyee will try and get it from Obama>

jt
To be President you have to be a natural born citizen:
Constitution setting out who is eligible to be president. Article II, which also specifies that a person must be at least 35 years old, says “No person except a natural born Citizen” can be president.
Barack Obama was born in the US so he can McCain wasnt so he can’t.
Sen. McCain is undoubtedly a citizen. He was born on Aug. 29, 1936, in the Panama Canal Zone, and Congress has specifically provided that anyone born there of U.S. parents, as he was, is a citizen. Indeed, the general rule is that anyone born of U.S. parents outside the United States is a citizen.
But is John McCain a natural born citizen? The Constitution does not define the term further, and legal scholars say the notes of the Constitution’s drafters shed little light on what they meant. It seems clear only that the founders wanted to make certain that whoever was president would be loyal to the U.S. alone and not to some other country. But the term “natural born citizen,” many scholars say, was not in common use at the time the Constitution was written.
In 1964, the Supreme Court ruled that “natural born” meant born inside the United States. In an opinion on an unrelated issue, the court observed, “The rights of citizenship of the native born and of the naturalized person are of the same dignity and are coextensive. The only difference drawn by the Constitution is that only the ‘natural born’ citizen is eligible to be President.”
U.S. ‘never had sovereignty’ over Canal Zone Besides, many legal scholars say the Canal Zone never was sovereign U.S. territory. In a February 1978 speech to the nation on the Panama Canal Treaty, heavily vetted by government lawyers, President Carter said, “We have never had sovereignty over it. We have only had the right to use it. The US Supreme Court and previous American presidents have repeatedly acknowledged the sovereignty of Panama over the Canal Zone.”

james you forgot to mention that mccain was born on a u.s military base.
on the other hand in the case involving berg versus obama the implication is that he was born in kenya thus the judge has ordered for obama to present a vault birth certificate and other documents.

Jackie Allen
Barack Obama’s mom was always American and Barack was born in America. He is natural born.
Sen. McCain is undoubtedly a citizen, He however is not a natural born citizen and therefor not eligible to be president under Article II No person except a natural born Citizen” can be president.

landsend
Its make no differnece:
State Department manual on U.S. citizenship has to say about children born on U.S. military installations:
Despite widespread popular belief, U.S. military installations abroad and U.S. diplomatic or consular facilities are not part of the United States within the meaning of the 14th Amendment. A child born on the premises of such a facility is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of birth.
McCain is a citizen due to an act of Congress which specifically provided that anyone born there of U.S. parents as he was, is a citizen.
But In 1964, the Supreme Court ruled that “natural born” meant born inside the United States.

YheaI agree with you there Bush Senior and Bin Laden were friends then they had a big falling out over What? MONEY of course. MONEY changes everything…. Speaking of money how many homes do you think Obama could have provided the homless in America. if he had collected donations for his cause and still took the public financing for his campaign. I was reading somewher he has had over 250 million dollars given to his campaign how many homes could that buy, how many jobs would that create…. Oh no he just has to blow it on looking hooked up with huge backers, uhm I wonder if all those individuals live in America and how many violatet the 4,600.00 maixmum donation rule. Oh let me guess Obama is not aware or will he claim credit for the blunders of his campaign managers. I thought he was using his experience at running a campaign as experience to run the country…. Well that’s hilarious, if your gonna take credit running a campaign as experience to run a country, you might as well take credit for the screw ups as well because if you throw that out, your portfolio is again lacking. So which is it Is Obama running his campaign or his is campaign managers runnig his campaign…. Someone is screwing up which one is going to claim the credit for having to return so many donations that were given and taken in violation to the campaign rules???
George W. Bush’s family has financial ties with the Bin Ladens
Posted by: Blue | Oct 10, 2008 12:21:37 AM

Oh, hey, jt.
A follow up on McCain’s NBC status. The founding fathers had not anticipated this sort of situation, and the question of a candidate’s citizenship status has never been a problem before (just one time when Arizona was a territory). There has been no precedent ruling to establish it one way or the other.
It’s most likely, however, that, given the area of grayness, the Supreme Court would rule in favor of granting Natural Born Citizen status to a person born by military parents stationed in the PCZ.

Emm
State Department manual on U.S. citizenship has to say about children born on U.S. military installations:
Despite widespread popular belief, U.S. military installations abroad and U.S. diplomatic or consular facilities are not part of the United States within the meaning of the 14th Amendment. A child born on the premises of such a facility is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of birth.
McCain is a citizen due to an act of Congress which specifically provided that anyone born there of U.S. parents as he was, is a citizen.
But In 1964, the Supreme Court ruled that “natural born” meant born inside the United States.
I think the reason the GOP let McCain win is because they know who every the gop put up is going to lose.. Better to waste mccain cuz he cant even be president anyway.

“In any case, isn’t it time the media start giving equal time to Palin’s buddy list of anti-American bombers and other radical associates?”
Again, for the hundredth time, Gov. Palin is not running for President, Obama is.

Posted by: JAMES | Oct 10, 2008 2:22:31 AM
wrong again.
mccain was born of american parents and is natural born. there is NO PROOF WHERE BHO WAS BORN. you can say ha, but no one has shown documentation to that fact.
the senate validated in a vote last year that mccain was a natural born citizen.

Posted by: Bob | Oct 10, 2008 5:56:56 AM
how about bho supporting odingo…?

The campaign has gotten so negative in the last week. Obama is running a pro-gun comerical in Pennsylvania.
VOTE NO on PROP 8 in California.

Ahhhh Jake, here we are with a second go round and you missed the boat again. Seems the WashingtonTimes is reporting yet another act of treason committed by Obama (they are saying it is an exclusive so I am assuming this is his second act of treason) Perhaps you should go look it up and REPORT THE NEWS!

Washington Times?
Hahahaha
Do you ever consider your sources? The Weekly World News is more credible. But you probrbaly think that the “I hate Obama” sites are giving you the “real facts”.
Looks like someone has gone to Fox’s site this morning, where 5 of 6 taglines are anti-Obama and the other is “Palin Cleared”. (Nah, no bias in their reporting right? They say so every 20 minutes.)
(And the investigation report hasn’t come out yet. Odd that McCain/Parrot are trying to pre-empt the results isn’t it?)

You DO know that 40% of voters registered by acorn are REPUBLICANS right? Notice you guys never mention that part.

$300 BILLION IN ADDITIONAL TAX DOLLARS TO BAIL OUT BANKS WITH BAD MORTGAGE DEBT
We will not stand for McCain’s SOCIALIST policies!
Hahahaha

Why won’t Brotha Obama show his certificate in the light? Its not a hard thing to do,is it? McCains’ dad and mom are citizens of the U.S. and I believe he was at the Panama zone where he was stationed in the USNAVY. This thing with Obama not opening up his credentials to all doesn’t pass the stink test. Just like all the rest of his lunatic fringe!

What FOX NEWS DOESNT TELL YOU WITH THIS ACORN STUFF:
FOX NEWS OWNS PALESTRA.NET
FOX NEWS SAY ITS A COLLAGE NESS NETWORK THATS DOING ALL THIS REPORTING…
FOX NEWS OWNS PALSETRA!

How and WHY did the Republican Party just get an 8 million $$ bailout from failing Wachovia Bank? The shareholders get stiffed, but Wachovia has the money to “loan” the Repubs 8 million. They can’t loan small companies money to meet their payrolls, but they can come up with 8 million for the Repubs to run their campaign on.

James feels the need to repost his problem with McCain. Here’s my answer again.
James, what I wrote was that:
the issue is moot since there was no anticipation of it during the time the requirements for presidency were written.
There have been no challenges to the requirement since.
If the issue of McCain’s NBC status was seriously a problem, the Supreme Court would be the body which would have to make a ruling on it.
Given the make up of the current Supreme Court, it is most likely that they would rule in favor of granted NBC status to Gov. McCain.
Since no one is willing to go all the way to the SC and push for an immediate ruling, due to time constraints as well as my previous point that they would most likely rule in favor of granting him NBC status, the issue is moot.
Obama’s citizenship status is another story with other factors involved that could easily be settled if he would only provide the required documents to the court that has ordered their submission. He has not done this which is why there is such a ruckus. If he’s unwilling to prove legit status, the assumption is that he can’t, regardless of his past claims that he has cooperated. The proof is in the pudding.

C’mon people. Read my post. Rat, McCain being a citizen is not enough, but as I and others have pointed out, the Senate granted him NBC status last year.

For goodness’ sakes, the certificate they produced shows the exact hour and minute Obama was born.
BOTH Obama and McCain are US citizens. This is a non-issue.
When will some of you get it in that Obama DOES not want to take away people’s guns. He just wants more regulations so it’s not so easy for criminals or people planning a murder spree to get their hands on them. Sure, he’s no gun lover, but even if he WANTED to take away your guns, he couldn’t. It has to pass through so many things are right now the majority of Supreme Court Justices are conservatives. Even if he appointed more liberal Supreme Court Justices, it wouldn’t even be a majority enough to overturn the Second Amendment.

Obama, Ayers, and Farrakhan all live within 2 blocks of each other…

Hacking email, stealing email lists, voter fraud, what does it take to get people to understand that the Obama organization has decided it is above the law and anything goes?
Try this: when you see the commercials for those prime time specials, remember the hedge fund investors who have financed Obama. How did Obama pay?
That is your 401k and your child’s college fund buying him prime time.

I suppose McCain/Palin are below common civility which is why they feel obliged to incite their supporters to call their opponent a “terrorist”. Even if you think he was involved in voter fraud-which he is not- he certainly is no terrorist. Elected officials DO get subject to background checks, you know.

“In Texas, over 4,000 DEAD PEOPLE are on the voting registration books — and some of those people were dead during the primaries, but voted anyway.”
Big difference between voter registration fraud and voter fraud. How could those dead people vote?

How can you trust him to do what he says on taxes, education, health care?
Obama is LYING about Ayers:
“Why don’t we just clear it up right now,” Obama told ABC News’ Charlie Gibson in an exclusive interview for World News. “I’ll repeat again what I’ve said many times. This is a guy who engaged in some despicable acts 40 years ago when I was eight years old. By the time I met him, 10 or 15 years ago, he was a college professor of education at the University of Illinois . . . And the notion that somehow he has been involved in my campaign, that he is an adviser of mine, that . . . I’ve ‘palled around with a terrorist’, all these statements are made simply to try to score cheap political points.”
But Obama LIED about Ayers. The two have a relationship that goes back many years during which Ayers continued to express his profoundly anti-American views. Ayers helped launch Obama’s political career and has been at his side throughout Obama’s early career.
Obama is LYING about ACORN:
Madeline Talbott, lead organizer of the Chicago ACORN community organization: “Barack has proven himself among our members. He is committed to organizing, to building a democracy. Above all else, he is a good listener, and we accept and respect him as a kindred spirit, a fellow organizer.”
Obama LIED about Rev. Wright:
“The statements that Rev. Wright made that are the cause of this controversy were not statements I personally heard him preach while I sat in the pews of Trinity or heard him utter in private conversation.” — Barack Hussein Obama March 14, 2008
DON’T EVEN MENTION THE FAKE COLB !…
Obama lies about who and what he really is…
How can anyone believe his promises in this presidential campaign?

THE AYERS/OBAMA TIMELINE:
1981-1983 = William Ayers and Barack Obama meet at Columbia?
1987 = William Ayers links up with Barack Obama in Chicago
1988 = Ayers solicits Khalid Al-Mansour to raise money for Obama’s Harvard law School education
1989 = Tom Ayers and William Ayers get Obama a summer job at Sidley & Austin (where he meets Michelle Obama); Ayers’ wife Bernadine Dohrn also worked at Sidley at about the same time as Barack and Michelle.
1993 = Ayers places Obama on Woods Foundation
1995 = Ayers makes Obama Chairman of Annenberg Challenge
1995 = Ayers hosts a coffee klatch for Obama’s political debut (Obama falsely claims this is when he met Ayers)
2007-2008 = The structure of Obama’s presidential campaign increasingly comes to resemble an Ayers-designed national “community organizer matrix” straight out of Maoist theory. This is not merely a presidential “campaign.” Obama’s organization is the first installment of an ongoing movement being paid for with tax-exempt contributions to his campaign, approaching half a billion dollars (many of it from foreign Middle East sources).
2008 = Obama, in response to ABC News, tells a national TV audience he was “six years old” when Ayers bombed federal buildings, and that they are only casual neighborhood acquaintances.

Voter Fraud in Ohio:
unbelievable that a U.S. district judge must issue an order requiring that the Ohio Secretary of State verify registrations.
CINCINNATI (AP) — A federal judge on Thursday ordered Ohio’s top elections official to verify the identity of newly registered voters by matching them with other government documents.
U.S. District Judge George C. Smith in Columbus ruled that Ohio Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner must perform verification required by the Help America Vote Act. That includes matching new registrants’ information against information in databases maintained by the Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles or the Social Security Administration.
The order was the result of a lawsuit the Ohio Republican Party filed against Brunner, a Democrat. …
Judge Issues TRO Against the Ohio (Democrat) Secretary of State:
Apparently, in some quarters, intervening in instances of a guy registering to vote 72 times and people being harassed by ACORN to register multiple times fall into the category of “suppression” rather than “fraud”. Thank God some of the targets who were harassed had the honor and courage to speak up.
““Plaintiffs assert, and the court agrees, that it is hard to imagine a public interest more compelling than safeguarding the legitimacy of the election of the president of the United States,” [U.S. District Judge George C. Smith in Columbus, Ohio] wrote in his ruling.”

Hero:
keep that Ayers stuff up, right up to the election, where McCain & Gov. Moose lose big time.

re: “The Obama campaign did not immediately respond to a request for comment.”
right , and they won’t because this stuff is sooooo lame………. keep it up, !
I will love the look on your faces late evening Nov 4, 2008.

This is ridiculous!!! How convenient!! Please tell them to go back to where they came from. I have had it with hate mongering, assassination enticements!!! These groups are dangerous!!

The way John McCain has allowed the two women in his life be the mouthpieces for his anger,as he stands sheepishly by their side- I herefore dub them the Rocky and Bullwinkle ticket(moose and squirrel)

Real Democrats will not vote for Obama! Good traditional Democrats treasure Democracy and will not countenance voter fraud and lies.