Hillary: Palin ‘Composed…Effective’ During Debate
ABC News’ Nitya Venkataraman Reports: If you were asking her to score it, Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., would describe Sen. Joe Biden’s debate performance as "flawless", and tell you she’d always expected high marks for Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin on the debate stage.
"I think she’s very good," Clinton said, praising Palin on Ryan Seacrest’s Los Angeles-based radio show Friday morning. "It’s amazing: she’s been thrust into the national spotlight with very little preparation and I think that, all things considered, you saw a very composed and effective debater last night."
Praise for Palin’s debate performance aside, Clinton reiterated her support for her former Democratic rivals during the morning radio interview and said "the real issue is who is better for America."
Referencing the current challenges facing the country — Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger’s call for a potential $7 billion loan to California run day-to-day operations in his state among them — the New York senator said "the Obama-Biden ticket is much more likely to deal with these tough problems and I think the McCain-Palin ticket, as we saw again last night, is offering pretty much the same prescription which helped to get us where we are today."
As for the debates themselves, the New York senator laughingly said she enjoys taking in a debate when neither she nor her husband are required to participate. It was hard to watch her husband face-off on the debate stage, Clinton said, and "nerve-wracking" to play her own tapes back. "It’s like watching my daughter do something. It’s just a human reaction when somebody you love or you’re really rooting for is in that kind of position," Clinton said.
Clinton is in Los Angeles for an environmentally-themed Saturday fundraiser "Angelenos Go Green for Obama" to raise money for the Democratic presidential candidate and Democrats in November Senate races. The event will be headlined by longtime Clinton friend Jon Bon Jovi who hosted a New Jersey bash for Sen. Barack Obama last month which hauled in more than $4 million.
Both Sen. Clinton and her husband, former President Bill Clinton, have come under recent fire for what some interpret as lukewarm support of Obama who defeated the New York senator four months ago after a bruising, eighteen-month battle for the Democratic presidential nomination that left deep divisions within the party.
Despite her praise for Palin, Clinton stood firm behind her party encouraging voters to "strike the center" and "figure out how we’re going to work our way through this" to "come out of it stronger than we went in."
"What I’m hoping is on November 4 we are going to clean house from top to bottom, we’re going to get back to having people who know what they’re doing and can explain it," Clinton said. "But I am really hopeful we’re going to elect strong Democrats, we’re going to get back to putting the people’s business first, we’re going to get a much better balance between the do-nothing folks and the do-everything folks."
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Posted by: Joe Six-Pack | October 3, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
WAY TO GO, HILLARY!!!! THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING GOVERNOR PALIN! I KNEW YOU LIKED HER!
OOPSS…LOOKS LIKE HILLARY DOESNT SUPPORT NOBAMA 100% AFTER ALL…SORRY OBAMABOTS, YOU LOSE!!!!
Posted by: NewOrleansLady | October 3, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
Looks like Hillary likes Palin as well:
“I think she’s very good,” Clinton said, praising Palin on Ryan Seacrest’s Los Angeles-based radio show Friday morning. “It’s amazing: she’s been thrust into the national spotlight with very little preparation and I think that, all things considered, you saw a very composed and effective debater last night.”
Posted by: Nottingham | October 3, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
I hope they clean house also.. for both sides.
Posted by: beck | October 3, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
If Obama wins this election, Hillary won’t get her chance in 2012. McCain 2008 ~ Clinton 2012!
Posted by: Michelle | October 3, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
Senator Hillary Clinton: the best Presidential candidate that our children, our troops and America needs more than any other
Posted by: chris | October 3, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
Thanks Hillary,
Now we will see Whoopi,Joy,Sheri, Barbara,msnbc,cnn,abc,nbc, panties all in a bunch for Hillary’s comment.
Posted by: blksister | October 3, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
I was impressed with the both of them. Biden showed he knows how to answer questions in a calm and civil manner, while Palin was in command of the questions put forth before her. The one glareing point that was a tripping point was Palin’s incestance to change course when she could NOT anwser. All-in-all, no one bloodied each other and the debate, if you can call it that ended in a draw!!!
Posted by: Ken Woodard | October 3, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
The bar was set low for Palin, so of course she looked good. I really find her “folksy” stuff nauseating, and she really didn’t answer the questions well. The whole thing about the fundamentals of the economy being strong referring to the American people – do they really think we are that stupid. Her folksy act belongs on Hee Haw – not in the vice presidential debates!
Posted by: malkittens | October 3, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
Imagine
Mrs. Joe Six Pack…
the President is in a plane somewhere
and she is told she needs to ask the President permission to shoot down a plane with a suspected terrorist on it…and a bomb somewhere on it that couldn’t be found / was not confirmed…
and it is a domestic carrier..?
if it was Israeli?
if it was Russian?
now imagine her if it was British?
that’s right Mrs Joe Six pack …mrs… picks the questions she has been prepped for
Mrs..throw insults and then dive behind her gender and smile?
imagine her making decisions to shoot down commercial planes with 100′s maybe thousands of civilians…Americans on them
imagine her if she was sitting near “the button”…and Russia invaded Poland ? Takikistan?
or India sent a nuclear missile into Kashmir?
People enough is enough
this woman is not equipped to be president.
she makes Huckabee look scientific and diplomatically aware.
this is crazy and the same team that threw us under the bus for their own power is now trying to do it again.
Posted by: dl | October 3, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
There are 2 types of republicans, the rich and the joe 6-pack. Only problem is the rich republicans get the prize, and the joe 6-pack republicans get to foot the bill (BAIL-out). NOT this time NOT with all us joe 6-pack republicans voting for OBAMA 2008…THIS man is for real.
Posted by: Sara palin | October 3, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
Clinton will get her chance in 2012, regardless of who wins in November, because both mccain and obama are weaker, less capable and comparatively unprepared for what awaits the President who starts his job in January of 2009, whereas Hillary’s mere election would have begun the resurrection of America’s international credibility and declining market numbers, and her job performance would have made her re-election a waste of time for any potential opponents
Posted by: chris | October 3, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
OBAMA 2008…I am vote with my POCKETBOOK…I need more money
Posted by: SARA Palin | October 3, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
Thanks Hillary,
Since we can’t have you for our pres, at least we can vote for McCain and Palin. It is nice for at least one democratic leader to tell the truth about Palin’s debate Performance.
The liberal media is out of ocontrol. Even Charlie Gibson last night was disgusted with the coverage. Every time he tried to act professional and comment truthfully, he was cut off by the bias talkers.
Posted by: Marilyn610 | October 3, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
Hillary’s faint praise of Sarah “Jesse Ventura” Palin is pitch-perfect: Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. I’d love to see Hillary take Sarah on a walking tour of Harlem….
Posted by: fougasseu | October 3, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
the key here is
she said she hopes we get back to having people “who know what they’re doing and can explain it,”
yeah that ain’t Mrs. pakin…ugh.
Posted by: dl | October 3, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
Thanks Hillary, for the support of Governor Palin. I know you will be attacked by the Obamabots, the View, and all the media, excluding Fox News, since they are all in the tank for Obama. You were the better candidate and I would be voting for you, but as it stands, I can’t even look at Obama and his self-centeredness…therefore, November 4, this democrat is voting for John McCain!
Posted by: Tina | October 3, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
the only thing “real” about obama is his ambitions for political office (those same ambitions that made him join and abandon a church for the sole purpose of local credibility)
Posted by: chris | October 3, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
I think Bill and Hill are coming around. I believe that they want what is best for middle America, because they too could be sitting on their laurels, Monday morning quarterbacking, and complaining and murmuring, but they are not. They are helping an organization that all but turned on them.
I want Hillary to become Secretary of State. She would be great. And I did not always believe she was qualified, until I saw what the Republicans (John McCain) thought about women. (one dimensional , one liner pinups).
They may win, but it won’t be on substance.
And I am not even a part of the elite. (or unattractive).
I hope in the future there are more viable women candidates, but they should work their buns off like Hillary did.
You go girl!
Posted by: renu | October 3, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
I say put our country first … and let McCain have the next four years so we can ELECT HILLARY CLINTON IN 2012!!!!
Posted by: Francisco Cardenas | October 3, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
Even Charlie Gibson last night was disgusted with the coverage. Every time he tried to act professional and comment truthfully, he was cut off by the bias talkers.
Posted by: Marilyn610 | Oct 3, 2008 4:43:00 PM
I noticed that too. Its a shame that Obama is being forced down the throats of Americans by the media…he is an empty suit with no substance!
Posted by: Kathy | October 3, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
Go Hillary!!! Stop saying she’s lukewarm. What are John Edwards and Bill Richardson doing? Give me a break.
Clinton/Bayh 2012!
Posted by: Angry Black Democrat | October 3, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
vote for the best candidate for our children, our troops and America on November 4th….that’s why i’m voting for Senator Clinton
Posted by: chris | October 3, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
Hillary has to toe the line with Party Loyalty and thank God we don’t have to.
Biden lectured and Gov. Palin spoke to Middle Americans and we want that Washington outsider in Washington!!!!!
Hillary knows the sexism and treatment of Gov. Palin….Hillary knows it well, and instead of eating our own, let’s promote our own….especially bipartisan McCain/Palin ticket..each bucking their own party when needed and working with Dems and Independents.
I am a passionate Hillary supporter who switched to McCain the minute Hillary withdrew AND AM THRILLED McCAIN PICKED PALIN!
NEVER OBAMA….God this country would suffer…and I would count the days until the next terriorist attack on our soil.
Posted by: DLM | October 3, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
I think all Hillary supporters should vote for McCain in order to make sure Obama goes back to thugland…that way, in 2012, Hillary will become the first woman President!
Hillary 2012!
NoBama 2008!
Posted by: Kathy | October 3, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
it is highly unlikely that even if mccain wins, palin will have any real authority or power for the next four years, and we will definitely be faced with a better choice by that time (Senator Clinton) then we are now (obama/mccain)
Posted by: chris | October 3, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
Hillary and Bill are voting McCain/Palin too….we want her back in 2012 against Gov. Palin…c’mon now….we ALL want to see that.
Posted by: DLM | October 3, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
Hillary has been campaigning for Obama and will continue to do so. The fact that she made a kind comment toward Palin doesn’t mean she is endorsing her or McCain. It looks like the fake Democrats for McCain are back on to get mileage points today.
Posted by: bhciapol | October 3, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
it is highly unlikely that even if mccain wins, palin will have any real authority or power for the next four years, and we will definitely be faced with a better choice by that time (Senator Clinton) then we are now (obama/mccain)
Posted by: chris | Oct 3, 2008 4:51:32 PM
I agree!
Posted by: Kathy | October 3, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
Hey, I think we’re on something here! Seriously, if all the Hillary supporters, who have seen how sleazy Obama/Biden are, will vote for McCain/Palin, we will be able to vote Hillary in office in 2012. She’s the BEST candidate of the three, even though her own party, stabbed her in the back. Lets send out the rally cry, to vote McCain in……we don’t need a liar like Obama as our President!
Posted by: Bakersfield | October 3, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
What else could Hillary say? If she’s negative the pundits will say it’s sour grapes. Better to give Palin some praise even though to most Americans she still came across in the debate as someone who is clueless and cannot deal with the complex issues facing our country. Women see it more than men do and the polls reflect it as well.
Posted by: Carl Steccato | October 3, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
You know how to do it don’t you you bit–….. you think if he looses you will run in 12 yes,you will run but it won’t be the white house sweetie…
Posted by: me who didn't buy her crap | October 3, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
@ bhciapol :
I don’t see the fire in Hillary and Bill for supporting Obama. If the truth be known, they probably can’t stand him. And yeah, what happened to Richardson….after he backstabbed Hillary for a chance at the VP position, Obama threw him under the bus as well. Have to hand it to Obama, he IS in this election for himself, not for America. I’ve NEVER seen a politician with so much evil and greed as Obama, using other folks for personal gain!
Posted by: Bakersfield | October 3, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
McCain has said he will appoint the best and the brightest to his cabinet, from both parties….the wealthiest to receive only a $1 year. He’d be smart to appoint Hillary and he is only interested in one term…so she will be running again in 2012. Obama CANNOT win if that is to happen…although I’m not saying he would learn something in 4 years and maybe win a second term. We’d be voting him out of office so fast it would make Jimmy Carter’s days look like Reagan’s.
NEVER OBAMA….THIS HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN EVEN BEFORE PALIN.
Rembemering how Barack Hussein Obama campaign and MSM kicked her in the teeth everytime AND SHE NEVER COMPLAINED. I see it happening again ladies….open your eyes….do you want to wait antother 24 years?
Posted by: DLM | October 3, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
NEVER OBAMA….THIS HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN EVEN BEFORE PALIN.
Rembemering how Barack Hussein Obama campaign and MSM kicked her in the teeth everytime AND SHE NEVER COMPLAINED. I see it happening again ladies….open your eyes….do you want to wait antother 24 years?
Posted by: DLM | Oct 3, 2008 4:59:52 PM
Me Too! Send out the rallying cry! Hillary Supporters for McCain! Get P.U.M.A. fired up! Lets go…lets get rid of Obama!!!!
Posted by: Bakersfield | October 3, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
Why do she and Bill lift a finger this B. Hussein? I’d be lifting my middle finger. What’s with all the fundraising still? Didn’t BO get enough contributions last month?
Bill and Hill need to sit this one out and let Richardson and Edwards do some campaigning for Bozo/Biden.
Posted by: DLM | October 3, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
To read some of the neo-con posts, you get the idea that all it takes to be a supporter is NOT calling Palin an idiot.
I guess that works if your expectations are LOW enough and your desperation is HIGH enough..
Posted by: JR | October 3, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
I will vote for Hillary in November.
Posted by: Carol Alabama | October 3, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR MCCAIN/PALIN 08!
HILLARY 2012!
Posted by: tammy | October 3, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
God, what a bunch of crack heads and dumb neo-cons on here today. I guess school’s out.
Posted by: JR | October 3, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
I will vote for Hillary in November.
Posted by: Carol Alabama | Oct 3, 2008 5:04:29 PM
Me too, as long as my vote doesn’t go in favor of the Democrats and Obama…I wouldn’t give him the time of day!
Posted by: texan | October 3, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
Count me in, I’m voting for McCain/Palin as well.
Posted by: JR | October 3, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
Bakersfield….I’m hoping there are enough of us who see the scarey suit for what he is….EGO FIRST, ME FIRST. What has Obama EVER done for this country? You’ve got to earn the keys to the WH, and he is not worthy just because his skin is black.
I’d vote for a black man BUT NEVER THIS BLACK MAN.
Earn it….B. Hussein, go back to the Senate and put in more than 143 days, and drop your trashy friends (Rezko, Wright, Ayers)….by using YOUR OWN JUDGEMENT and not by being forced to….like when Hillary made you reject Farrakhan’s endorsement….oh and Hamas too. You sure get the scariest people behind you.
COUNTRY FIRST McCAIN/PALIN ALL THE WAY!
Posted by: DLM | October 3, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
Its obvious Hillary Clinton is still bitter about her loss to Obama and so are some of her supporters. Its too bad they can’t put their country first (maybe this is why Clinton lost the primary). Also, since when has graduating from the top of your class been a bad thing? We’ve had a “bumper sticker”, joe six pack President for the last eight years and look where we’ve ended up: 9-11, Katrina, 2 wars in the middle east and a decimated military, unemployment at a 5 year high, gas at $4 per gallon and our economy in the toilet. We need a President and Vice President who are well spoken, thoughtful and intelligent. We do not need President who brags about graduating at the bottom of his military class and an ex-beauty queen who transferred between 6 community colleges.
Posted by: Tracy | October 3, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
I think Mrs. Clinton continues to exhibit total grace and attitude in commending Governor Palin. Hillary Clinton is ONE classy lady. I agree, Hillary supporters SHOULD vote for McCain. A vote AGAINST Obama is a vote FOR Hillary!
Hillary 2012!
Posted by: Donald | October 3, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
Do any of you so called Hillary supporters really think Hillary will run in 2012? That’s crazy. She ran a good campaign and I was one of her loyal supporters but she lost. I can’t imagine her running again when she lost so much money in the process. When you so called Hillary supporters vote for McCain/Palin come November, you will have to live with the consequences of another 4 years of a painful existence.
Posted by: LF | October 3, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
When it comes down to it, there is definitely power in numbers. Obama is imploding right now. His campaign is not about America, but about Obama. I hope and pray that Hillary supporters vote for McCain and send Obama packing. He was “selected” not “elected” as the nominee. Hillary showed class, each and everyday, while Obama put her down, with the help of the MSM. She NEVER irked at these misstatements about her. I hope she runs in 2012. Right now, I’m hoping and praying that enough Hillary supporters will rally around McCain/Palin in order for Obama to lose and lose BIG!
Obama can’t “sugar-coat” what he did to Hillary!
Hillary 2012!
Posted by: Donald | October 3, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
Oh Tracy please…. Even Obama supporters are saying good things about Palin. Claire McCaskill – who couldnt get further up in Obama than even his wife – said that Palin was “poised,” “telegenic,” and “very likeable.” Is she bitter too?
Posted by: Angry Black Democrat | October 3, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
Hey Hillary supporters…..voting for her in Nov. allows B. Hussein to inch closer….think twice. Voting Hillary is a vote flushed….MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD AND WE WERE SO AGAINST OBAMA WE MUST VOTE McCAIN/PALIN!
Don’t throw your votes away Hillary supporters….the only way we’ll see her in 2012 is not seeing BHO near WH.
McCain in a one term Prez…Hillary will run in 2012 (against Palin?)..who knows…..JUST DON’T THROW YOUR VOTE AWAY WHEN THEY WILL ONLY AMOUNT TO THOUSANDS…..MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND VOTE McCAIN/PALIN!
Posted by: DLM | October 3, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
Palin did wonderful. She did´n try to make a role and present herself as somebody she isn´t . She was natural, likeable, calm, warm, comfortable, down-to-earth, speaking clearly to American people. She just showed her credentials: ´this is what I have done in Alaska and what I want to do in Washington, take or leave it´. I was deeply impressed. Biden was not bad but so boring and repetitive, with a typical professional politician speech, with no connection to American people.
Palin will be an excellent VP.
Posted by: Stephen from Indiana | October 3, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
Hey Hillary supporters…..voting for her in Nov. allows B. Hussein to inch closer….think twice. Voting Hillary is a vote flushed….MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD AND WE WERE SO AGAINST OBAMA WE MUST VOTE McCAIN/PALIN!
Don’t throw your votes away Hillary supporters….the only way we’ll see her in 2012 is not seeing BHO near WH.
McCain in a one term Prez…Hillary will run in 2012 (against Palin?)..who knows…..JUST DON’T THROW YOUR VOTE AWAY WHEN THEY WILL ONLY AMOUNT TO THOUSANDS…..MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND VOTE McCAIN/PALIN!
Posted by: DLM | Oct 3, 2008 5:15:41 PM
McCain/Palin 08!
Hillary 2012!
Posted by: DK | October 3, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
Hey Hillary supporters…..voting for her in Nov. allows B. Hussein to inch closer….think twice. Voting Hillary is a vote flushed….MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD AND WE WERE SO AGAINST OBAMA WE MUST VOTE McCAIN/PALIN!
Don’t throw your votes away Hillary supporters….the only way we’ll see her in 2012 is not seeing BHO near WH.
McCain in a one term Prez…Hillary will run in 2012 (against Palin?)..who knows…..JUST DON’T THROW YOUR VOTE AWAY WHEN THEY WILL ONLY AMOUNT TO THOUSANDS…..MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND VOTE McCAIN/PALIN!
Posted by: DLM | Oct 3, 2008 5:15:41 PM
McCain/Palin 08!
Hillary 2012!
Posted by: DK | October 3, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
Hey Hillary supporters…..voting for her in Nov. allows B. Hussein to inch closer….think twice. Voting Hillary is a vote flushed….MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD AND WE WERE SO AGAINST OBAMA WE MUST VOTE McCAIN/PALIN!
Don’t throw your votes away Hillary supporters….the only way we’ll see her in 2012 is not seeing BHO near WH.
McCain in a one term Prez…Hillary will run in 2012 (against Palin?)..who knows…..JUST DON’T THROW YOUR VOTE AWAY WHEN THEY WILL ONLY AMOUNT TO THOUSANDS…..MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND VOTE McCAIN/PALIN!
Posted by: DLM | Oct 3, 2008 5:15:41 PM
McCain/Palin 08!
Hillary 2012!
Posted by: DK | October 3, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
LF – why wouldn’t she run again? She’ll be the presumptive favor if O-bam-bam loses. She has a hard core fanbase — and trust me, the bills will get paid….One thing is true: if O-bam-bam loses, he won’t be running again. No one’s going to take that chance. Runners-up can run again. Not nominees.
Posted by: Angry Black Democrat | October 3, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
PUMA! PUMA! PUMA! PUMA! PUMA! PUMA!
Posted by: PUMA!!! | October 3, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
Tracy…..Obama AND BUSH are bothHarvard Grads…..I wouldn’t care what university McCain and Palin graduated because their heads and hearts are in the right place….their judgement too. IT’S NOT ALL ABOUT HIM…..IT’S COUNTRY FIRST WITH MY TICKET. Obama should have become an actor, since he always needs the love and attention, since mom and dad abandoned him.
Also, is he yelling his speeches more and more…..I have to always turn the TV down when he comes on YELLING like a preacher we all remember….Rev. Wright.
Posted by: DLM | October 3, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
I don’t think Hillary’s bitter. She’s done everything possible to elect Obama and I give her credit.
Gallup and Rasmusseen poll: Obama +7
Posted by: Vanessa | October 3, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
HILLARY SUPPORTERS HAVE THE POWER TO BEAT THE IDIOT OBAMA!
VOTE MCCAIN/PALIN 08!
Posted by: DK | October 3, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
HILLARY SUPPORTERS HAVE THE POWER TO BEAT THE IDIOT OBAMA!
VOTE MCCAIN/PALIN 08!
Posted by: DK | October 3, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
HILLARY SUPPORTERS HAVE THE POWER TO BEAT THE IDIOT OBAMA!
VOTE MCCAIN/PALIN 08!
Posted by: DK | October 3, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
Vanessa….always shave off three points for Obama for those in the booth who don’t vote for who they say on the phone they will vote for,…..because they feel intimidated….Bradley effect.
Posted by: DLM | October 3, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
Vanessa is ALWAYS misrepresenting polls. The only POLL that matters is the one on November 4th, inside the voting booth, when you pull the lever! This year, vote McCain/Palin! The ONLY choice for America!
Hillary 2012!
Posted by: DK | October 3, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm
DLM,
Actually add 3 points. Majority of the Obama supporters use cell phones.
Posted by: Vanessa | October 3, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
Hillary..you should have emphasized on the good job done in the debate by Joe Biden, and praised him and Obama. Everyone now know what is in your heart.
Shame on you Hillary Clinton :(
Posted by: Moon | October 3, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
I agree with Clinton: Palin was very effective in telling us that the McCain/Palin ticket had no plan to really address our problems. In fact, she seemed to be begging us to vote the government out of existence by voting for McCain/ Palin — oh yes, with one exception, of course, that we keep enough of the government so it can continue wasting our dwindling resources in battles abroad.
Posted by: chris | October 3, 2008, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
Voting for Palin because she is a woman is no way to vote. Stupid is as stupid does I guess.
Posted by: S Adams | October 3, 2008, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
Biden’s performance was flawless? Really? Somebody remind me WHEN we (and the French) threw Hezbollah out of Lebanon!
Posted by: Nonnie | October 3, 2008, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
I think Palin should have slammed Obama for supporting infanticide.
Posted by: s mebep | October 3, 2008, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm
Palin should have slammed Obama for being friends with terrorists who bomb the Pentagon.
Posted by: s mebep | October 3, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm
Angry Black Democrat,
She still had a large bill left over. I sent some money to help. Why didn’t all you so called supporters help her retire her debt this time? Just asking. If I were Hillary, I wouldn’t trust my supporters to help me if I ran in 2012 for fear of being in the same position as I am in now. I feel the only reason all you so called Hillary supporters are voting for McCain/Palin is because you are fakes in Republican sheep skin or you don’t want an African American in office. By the way I’m African American also. If you are a true democrat, you would be loyal to your party. I don’t buy being a democrat and voting for a ticket that will give us more years if GWB. This little game you guys are playing has gotten old.
Posted by: LF | October 3, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
I think Plain should have been more clear that Obama’s stuoid plan for implementation of 10% tax increases to small businesses is not a good way to address the recent unmemployment figures
Posted by: s mebep | October 3, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
I am a Hillary supporter too. However, I think it will be wishful thinking to believe that a vote for McCain now will open up a chance for Hillary in 2012. If President McCain performs okay, they (or Palin) will stand a far better chance than Hillary of getting elected in 2012. If he screws up and presses the red button, I don’t know if you and I will still exist to give our dear Hillary another chance.
Posted by: chris | October 3, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
Palin and Cheney both have a love affair with oil and both have abuse of power investigations going on. Here is the status of hers.
http://hnn.us/blogs/entries/55229.html
Posted by: Paige | October 3, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm
The Clintons are up to something – again!
Posted by: LongT | October 3, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm
After all the smears and lies are told, vote for REPRESENTATION ladies. Women are in the majority worldwide, yet are still beat into submission by men’s appearance of being more qualified to lead. Hey women, it always will be like this if you never elect a WOMAN !
Posted by: disillusioned2008 | October 3, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
I think Palin should have asked Biden why climate change now is all becuase of man .. does that mean the climate change occurring in the past 100s of thousands of years was also caused 100% by man?
Posted by: s mebep | October 3, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
No one cares about your opinion.
Who are you anyway?
You’re just some idiot who spends hours writing a bunch of meaningless gibberish on the blogs.
Go outside, get a life. Really, you’re just not as important as you think you are. No one cares what you think. Why should we listen to a moron?
Posted by: You're opinion means didly | October 3, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
After all the smears and lies are told, vote for REPRESENTATION ladies.
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By all means. Vote regardless of issues. Vote regardless of driving our country into the ground. Vote for the same thing we’ve had.
That will help get a woman elected President for sure. Just vote vagina no matter what!
Posted by: Hear Me Roar | October 3, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
“I think that I have a lifetime of experience that I will bring to the White House. Sen. John McCain has a lifetime of experience that he’d bring to the White House. And Sen. Obama has a speech he gave in 2002.”
Hilary Clinton
Posted by: s mebep | October 3, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
Robert:
you need help.
Posted by: shalom | October 3, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
Palin should have slammed Obama for being friends with terrorists who bomb the Pentagon.
Posted by: s mebep | Oct 3, 2008 5:37:54 PM
That would have been constructive. How about they discuss the issues instead? Wild concept, I know.
Posted by: J | October 3, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
I think Palin should have asked Biden why climate change now is all becuase of man .. does that mean the climate change occurring in the past 100s of thousands of years was also caused 100% by man?
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SHE COULDN’T ASK THAT. BECAUSE PALIN THINKS THE EARTH IS ONLY 10,000 YEARS OLD…REMEMBER?
Hahahahahaa
Posted by: Evolution is Logical;Creation is a Palinism | October 3, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
There you go all you lefty-socialists out there. Even Hillary saw the obvious.
Posted by: Mr Whiffle | October 3, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
Palin sucked! PERIOD! She came across as a caddy brat who was not going to answer any questions from the moderator. She was a snob and I personally don’t appreciate anyone who thinks they are above the rules (Bush).
I personally did not appreciate how she brought in Biden’s wife into her answer (she sounded so sarcastic)…you republicans didn’t like it when Edwards brought in Cheney’s gay daughter into his answer.
She is just plain mean…nothing charming about her one bit!
NOW she’s using the excuse that Katie Couric was annoying as to why she came across like an airhead in those CBS interviews.
PALIN, GET THIS STRAIGHT…you crammed for the debate…you were coached…you were told what to say and how to say it. And that is why you wouldn’t answer the moderators questions…to avoid your usual DEER in the headlights moments.
BUT THIS woman is not buying your bullsh-t! Unlike all the other women and surprisingly men on this blog, I hold EVERYONE who is running for the two highest offices of the land with HIGH EXPECTATIONS…REGARDLESS OF THEIR SEX.
You women crying about sexism…shut up, it’s like the black man that keeps crying and hiding behind the race card. AFTER A WHILE YOU JUST GET “ANNOYING.” BUCK UP! YOU ALL SOUND LIKE “WHINERS”!
Annoying and whiners…yeah, the Republican’s favorite two words!
Posted by: Theresa | October 3, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
OBAMA IS THE BIGGEST JOKE OF THE
CENTURY……
Too true. It IS funny that he’s kicking Mr “Maverick’s” butt isn’t it.
Too Funny!
Posted by: Good Times | October 3, 2008, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
SHE COULDN’T ASK THAT. BECAUSE PALIN THINKS THE EARTH IS ONLY 10,000 YEARS OLD…REMEMBER?
Hahahahahaa
Your mother couldn’t afford an abortion right?
Posted by: Josef S | October 3, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm
I agree with Theresa-
Sarah Palin is such a snob. I cannot stand her one bit. She is mean.
Posted by: Monica O | October 3, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
Mr.Whiffl,
All Hillary said in a nutshell was she a good debater. I don’t see where any of what Hillary said can be her backing Palin or even think Palin has a clue.
She’s not stupid enough to say something really negative about her. People liked the Hillary that they saw towards the end of the campaign, she isn’t going to blow it.
Posted by: J | October 3, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
How about they discuss the issues instead? ….
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The next potential US President having been friends with a terrorist who bombed the Pentagon is not an ‘issue’.
The Far left really loves to pull the wool over thir own eyes and see Obama for what he really is.
Posted by: s mebep | October 3, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
It is quite sad if your reason for voting McCain/Palin is strictly because you don’t like Obama/Biden. McCain is quick-tempered, prone to irrational behavior (suspend his campaign). Palin’s winks are condescending. She constantly misuses the word “also”. A VP should be able to speak properly and coherently and not in run-on sentences. A McCain/Palin admin will be another 4 years of the last 8. The country will continue to be a mess. So, subjecting the country to 4 more years of recession, war, damaged international relations is worth the chance that Hillary may run in 2012?
Posted by: rnbow007 | October 3, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
Sarah Palin does not speak to ME!
I hate it when she thinks that she is the “joe-six-pack” or the ‘hockey mom.”
SO WHICH IS IT?
Posted by: Bobbie Jo | October 3, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
Quite interesting to see how many so-called Hillary supporters will claim that they could easily vote for a black man, and yet if you read between the lines, its all racial slurs. I guess no one dares talk about this, but obviously there is a mental barrier for a lot of WASP/C voters to vote a black man into office. You ask African-Americans to move on – now its time for all Americans to stop ignoring the gorilla in the room and start addressing these issues. When you refer to Obama as Hussein linking him with former dictator Sadam, or thug, its all subliminal strategies using scare tactics.
Secondly I dont understand how being a 6-pack Joe or mediocre can ever be a credential for running for VP. Im sure, when it comes to your own health, you would want the best and most schooled doctor in the country do your by-pass surgery? Then why in God’s name would you let a rookie like Palin, who doesnt know the first thing about foreign policy, get anywhere near the White house, in a time like this when China is taking over and people around the world are switching from dollars to Euros, and Americans owe more money than the rest of the world combined! The preemptive era of arrogance and Bushism in American politics, has come to an end with the Wall Street Crash (part II).
That s why we non-Americans believe in the Obama/Biden-ticket.
Posted by: You need to be told | October 3, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
You have your headline wrong on the front page. It’s Biden she called “flawless.” Duh.
Posted by: Jean | October 3, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
Sarah Palin is such a snob. I cannot stand her one bit. She is mean.
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but Obama is phonier than a $3 bill
Democrats = Mindless sheep (as could be seen from the video of those brainwashed kids of Nazi parents singing about Obama)
Posted by: s mebep | October 3, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
I dont understand why any one that is american born would vote for oboma.yes its been bad with Bush but dont shoot us down for good by electing oboma.This is the year to vote republican even if you aint one,it will hurt alot less in the days ahead.Oboma is nothing but a lair that will do whatever it takes to win, he is so full of hisself it makes me sick.I dont care for the other party either but they are better of the to evils.
Posted by: fedup | October 3, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
Sarah Palin did not answer one question the moderator asked, because they didn’t fit with the PREPARED answers she was fed!
This woman is not fooling anyone.
Posted by: MaryKay | October 3, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
Palin should have slammed Obama for being friends with terrorists who bomb the Pentagon.
Watch Hannity on Sunday night, he’s going to cover all of Obama’s old pals. Let the Marxism shine through Barry.
Posted by: Lefty O'Doule | October 3, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
Hillary 2012!
Obama treated Bill and Hillary like they were racist pigs. They should have been treated with respect.
Go Palin/McCain!
Posted by: lm | October 3, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
The front page teaser says Clinton called Palin “flawless”, the first paragraph says Clinton called Biden “flawless”.
Is it really ok to screw that up so badly?
Posted by: Steve | October 3, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm
God Bless Hannity for exposing the truth about Obama !
Why does he hang out with that dorky little liberal guy ?
Posted by: s mebep | October 3, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
Can anyone read? Hilary said Joe Biden’s performance was flawless, not Palin’s. She said Palin was effective and a good debater. WOW that was a glowing endorsement!!
Posted by: Ray | October 3, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
LF — unlike you, I don’t consider politics a game or something that I engage in blindly. First, I have donated to Clinton, thank you very much. Second, I have not said I would vote for McCain. I am just convinced I won’t vote for Obama. Third, I am making a bigger statement than just voting for whatever Democrat won the nomination by withholding my support from him. I do not trust him, nor do I appreciate the type of campaign he ran/endorsed. Basically calling older people “more of the same,” poor people illiterate, racist, “lunchbucket” voters, and women “bra-burning feminists stuck in the past” is not my kind of politics. Oh – and trashing the only successful Democrat in the last 44 years (Bill Clinton) was absolutely stupid. You guys sold the party to Obama. Enjoy!
Posted by: Angry Black Democrat | October 3, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
s mebep-
you are a racist jack-as! You’re an embarrassment!
Posted by: JJ | October 3, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
I agree with Theresa-
Sarah Palin is such a snob. I cannot stand her one bit. She is mean.
Then by all means DON’T VOTE FOR HER!
Posted by: Gargoyle | October 3, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
I will never vote for HIllary Clinton again. Hers and Bill’s lukewarm party support and obvious sour grapes about her personal failure to win the nomination leave me with a bad impression of her as a person. She knows and admits the damage that the Republican party has done to our country over the past 8 years, but it seems she’d prefer to watch the Democratic Party that strives to repair this damage suffer this year so she can say “i told you so” and run in 2012. No thanks, Hillary, you either care about the immediate future of this country or you don’t. Put your ego aside for a minute and support your party and Senator Obama, an intelligent and honorable candidate who is as worthy of the opportunity to be president as yourself.
Posted by: iamwomaninMI | October 3, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
Posted by: s mebep | Oct 3, 2008 6:06:07 PM
How about the economy and Iraq? Issues that really matter. Bringing up past news that didn’t lead anywhere is not constructive.
Posted by: J | October 3, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
The headline says Clinton called Palin flawless. The article says she called Biden’s performance flawless.
Which is it?
Posted by: RogueMentality | October 3, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
HEY ABC: your tagline on the website has Clinton calling PALIN’s performance FLAWLESS. That’s flat out wrong; she said that of BIDEN…a mistake or a deliberate falsehood? Hard to tell anymore, but you darn well better fix it.
Posted by: cameotoo | October 3, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
Sarah Palin did not answer one question the moderator asked, because they didn’t fit with the PREPARED answers she was fed!
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That is BS !
It is CERTAINLY OK when Osama Obama refuses the question in his debate.. and says as his response “The question we REALLY need to ask ourselves is.. (Whatever BS I fell like blurting out)”
Its OK if Obama does it – but it is Evil when Plain does it ..
you HYPOCRITE
Posted by: s mebep | October 3, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
Posted by: iamwomaninMI | Oct 3, 2008 6:15:00 PM
Her and Bill have done more to support Obama than past candidates have done.
Posted by: J | October 3, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
I won’t be surprised if Bill and Hill vote for McCain and Palin. Theire endorsement of Obama and Biden is a sham and a pretense because the democratic party put them up to it.
Posted by: eyegraphics | October 3, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
Well I don’t know who’s going to win, but whomever does they’re going to have a strict budget to work with. Jobs are going away, stock market and housing market drops and the value of the dollar dropping are going to seriously hamstring whoever is in the white house. No one person can fix all this.
Posted by: Kremlin | October 3, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
Bringing up past news that didn’t lead anywhere is not constructive.
Its a cardinal sin if it is about Osama Obama TURTHS associating with terrorists – but it is OK to make lies about Palin bainning books and making people pay for rape kits.
HYPOCRITE !
Posted by: s mebep | October 3, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
Actually, I think both Democrat and Republican candidates are a joke. I’m voting for Ralph Nader. Nader is the right man and he WILL kick some rear in Washington. After all, Nader has been kicking Washington rear for quite a while.
Posted by: Walt | October 3, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
“You need to be told”: I am black and I don’t support Obama. Before you call me a “sell-out” or other childish name, I have probably voted for more black candidates than any of Obama’s new youth movement. I voted for Jesse Jackson, David Dinkins, among other black candidates during my life. Just like angry women were going around saying “just not this woman” with respect to Clinton (and now Palin), I am saying the same thing about Obama. No way, no how, nObama.
PS: I’m not racist.
Posted by: Angry Black Democrat | October 3, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
Hillary is being kind. Did you know based on “fact check” done today by CNN, about 98% of what Palin said last night was either completely false or so misleading it bordered on the ridiculous? It makes me sick to think there are actually people so dumb they support her.
Posted by: Bill | October 3, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
I was not sure about voting for Palin but your performance confirmed my vote for her. I enjoyed both Palin and Badin performance last night but Palin out did herself in my mind. Good debate Palin and Badin.
Posted by: willie | October 3, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
If you call showing the ability to string together coherent sentences doing “well”, then yes, she did “well”.
Posted by: randy | October 3, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
you are a racist jack-as! You’re an embarrassment!
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Is that you Matt Damon ? You sound like a typical Democrat.
Posted by: s mebep | October 3, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm
Hillary is being kind. Did you know based on “fact check” done today by CNN, about 98% of what Palin said last night was either completely false or so misleading it bordered on the ridiculous? It makes me sick to think there are actually people so dumb they support her.
Let me guess, you’ll say 100% of what Biden said was true. Have you been drinking Kool Aid early today lefty?
Posted by: Mr Whiffle | October 3, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
oh, please, iamwomanmi — Hillary has done more than any losing candidate has ever done. The beloved Ted Kennedy, who was all up in Obama’s butt, didn’t even speak in support of Carter at the convention, nor did he shake his hand. He certainly didn’t campaign for him. Howard Dean didn’t do much for Kerry. And where on earth are John Edwards (ooops) and Bill Richardson? Why is everyone looking to Hillary? If you read the article, it says she was headlining a fundraiser for O-bam-bam. Which fundraiser is Bill Richarson attending this weekend?
Posted by: Angry Black Democrat | October 3, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
s mebep: anyone with internet access can fact check your “Obama friends with a terrorist” tripe. Truly, there are worthwhile issues: Did you know McCain proposes to extend Bush’s “trickle down” tax cuts? Were you aware that 760,000 jobs have been lost so far in 2008? Did you know kids living in poverty increased to 18% of our population? Did you know we just spent 1 Billion funding failed “abstinence-only” programs? These are a few items worth discussing. Americans could care less who McCain slept with or what Rev. Wright ranted about.
Posted by: Idahogirl | October 3, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
Posted by: s mebep | Oct 3, 2008 6:18:19 PM
Well you just showed what a dolt you are by referring to Obama as Osama. Typical Republican behavior. That was an internet rumor, Obama has had plenty of them such as being a muslim (not true).
Any intelligent person would research that kind of stuff and find out what is true and what isn’t.
Posted by: J | October 3, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
Change your headline immediately abc. You should be ashamed. Stop trying to mislead people. She said biden was flawless on cnn they actually have the right quote. She couldnt come out and say that palin was a bubble head could she? She has been to florida, new mexico, nevada, ohio, michigan, and california all in the name of barack obama. I dont see reid, or pelosi campaigning for obama. hillary helped obama raise 5million for his campaign while he barely lifted a finger to help her with her debt. She has done more for him than any other former presidenttal nomniee. She will be in pa for in about a week too. So stop with the luke warm stuff, she’s done more than enough.
Posted by: rachel | October 3, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
Biden won the the debate hands down, Palin gave a solid performance in mediocre babble I was not at all impressed with her. How many times does she say ‘also’ when she babbles.
What worries me is that America will sleep walk into voting for McPalin because she winks.
Posted by: James, England | October 3, 2008, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm
I liked it when Palin called Joe “Senator Obiden” – even Joe got a chuckle out of that.
I actually like Joe – I think he’s “real”. Obama .. well thats a different story.
Posted by: s mebep | October 3, 2008, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm
NO WAY, NO HOW, NO OBAMA!
NO WAY, NO HOW, NO OBAMA!
NO WAY, NO HOW, NO OBAMA!
NO WAY, NO HOW, NO OBAMA!
NO WAY, NO HOW, NO OBAMA!
Posted by: beverly | October 3, 2008, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm
Hey you morons, the headline is wrong. Clinton said BIDEN was flawless, not PALIN. Duh.
Posted by: RealityCheck | October 3, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
Don’t listen to Bill. He’s lying himself. First of all, CNN didn’t say that Palin lied 98 percent of the time, and it also pointed out misstatements by Biden. Also, if you go on the “real” factcheck — factcheck.org — you will see nonpartisan analysis of the debate. CNN is hardly nonpartisan.
Posted by: Angry Black Democrat | October 3, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
That was an internet rumor, Obama has had plenty of them such as being a muslim (not true).
Actually when he was signed up for school as a child, the ledger has him listed as Muslim.
Posted by: Lefty O'Doule | October 3, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
Hey you morons, the headline is wrong. Clinton said BIDEN was flawless, not PALIN. Duh.
Posted by: RealityCheck | October 3, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
Joe Biden should be at the top of the ticket, Obama should be back in Chicago with his thugs. Doesn’t matter, this Hillary supporter is voting for McCain!
Posted by: Anne | October 3, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
Americans could care less who McCain slept with or what Rev. Wright ranted about.
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Only a democrat would NOT care that their presidential candidate hangs out with terrorists.
Imagine Osama invting the Loonie Iranaian into the Oral office for cheese and crackers.
Posted by: s mebep | October 3, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
Sarah Palin wants the past to be off limits. She wants to opt out of press coverage. And she wants to expand the powers of the vice president, which, Who were those greedy and corrupt people Sarah Palin talked about? Ken Lay? I’m still waiting, here in California, for my refund from Enron’s market manipulation. Jack Abramoff? Duke Cunningham? Ted Stevens? The Keating Five? Would Palin have outed Valerie Plame? Pardoned Scooter Libby? Forced Harriet Myers to testify?
Biden was adequate but missed great opportunities to ask what would have happened if George Bush had succeeded in turning Social Security over to Wall Street. He missed the chance to remind America, the city on the hill, the beacon of freedom for the world that Palin extolled, that we are now known around the world for torture, rendition, and preemptive invasion and occupation. He didn’t mention Hurricane Katrina and how conservatives developed, rather than preserved, wetlands and ignored, rather than maintained, levees. The “pro life” party will always favor jobs, development and low taxes over human life. He missed the chance to remind America that McCain-Palin’s economic advisor, Phil Graham, referred to America as a “nation of whiners” and wrote legislation which gutted oversight of the banking system. He missed the chance to tell Sarah Palin that “drill, baby, drill” means relying on a finite 19th century energy source. It’s a bit disingenuous for Palin to now talk about energy independence after Republicans put Bush-Cheney, two oil men, in office, and for decades fought every effort to increase the fuel efficiency of cars. Even Boone Pickens has figured this out.
Perhaps if we had a president with “the vision thing,” who challenged us to be rid of the need for oil in ten years, we could save our economy and the planet. A “maverick” VP who thinks that global warming is not man-made, thinks sexual orientation is a choice, thinks humans walked the earth with the dinosaurs, and wants to “drill, baby drill” would be a disaster we cannot afford.
Posted by: tkforchange | October 3, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
Hey ABC, you got the headline wrong!!! Great journalism!! Do you have monkey’s writing headlines?
Posted by: Ryan | October 3, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
Actually when he was signed up for school as a child, the ledger has him listed as Muslim.
Posted by: Lefty O’Doule | Oct 3, 2008 6:26:23 PM
So what? There are Muslims in this country that do a lot of good. To keep using that nonsense is unproductive. Obama is a Christian so get off that bs.
Posted by: J | October 3, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
Yesterday the Wash Post had a headline “Palin names Ferraro as her favorite Vice President.” They had a video tape of an interview with Couric where Couric asked, “who is your favorite VP.” She said — “well, I would like to talk about a candidate — as for candidate, it would definitely be Geraldine Ferraro. She broke the glass cieling and made this possible for me.” Then Couric pressed her on actual VP…and she responded. Talk about misleading headline.
Posted by: Angry Black Democrat | October 3, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
OK people what is Hillary supposed to say…”SHE is an airhead and only got where she is today because she is a conservative woman?” Hillary does NOT want any backlash like Ferrarro received earlier this year. Why didn’t this report focus on FLAWLESS by Biden and STOP putting the spotlight on Palin? Flawless is better than effective ANY day. GO BIDEN!
Posted by: Dar | October 3, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
Editors, your hyperlink headline is incorrect. It should indicate that Hillary thought BIDEN was “flawless” NOT Palin. Get it right (pun intended). Then all of these wacko neocons will stop blogging once they read the truth (which the article actually states). Sad that people only read the headlines. Hillary lost – get over it.
Posted by: RealityCheck | October 3, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
FIX YOUR HEADLINE. IT’S WRONG. WRONG HEADLINE. HEADLINE WRONG. WRONG HEADLINE. HEADLINE WRONG. WRONG HEADLINE.
Posted by: Oops! | October 3, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
Hey you morons, the headline is wrong. Clinton said BIDEN was flawless, not PALIN. Duh.
Posted by: RealityCheck | Oct 3, 2008 6:26:46 PM
Actually, the story is wrong. Hillary said Palin was flawless, Biden, well, he barely could hold his own. LOL! Lets see, a 25 yr senate verteran being beat by a brand new Governor….hmm…sounds like the Obama camp is imploding!
Way to go, Hillary! Thanks for supporting Governor Palin. I knew you would come around and support the McCain/Palin ticket!
McCain/Palin 08!
“COUNTRY FIRST!”
Posted by: Anne | October 3, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
we don’t need a liar for president ? what planet have you been living on for the las EIGHT YEARS?? McLame/Pain – are just like the liar serving now- just older and dumber – as if!
Posted by: cdew | October 3, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
Obama is going to win. Then, when the first Suprean COurt Vacancy comes up, he is going to park Hillary there. Bill will be left funing when Obam calls on Al Gore when he needs a Democratic elder statesmen for assignment. Gov Palin will go back to Alaska and try to launch a national campaign in four or eight years and will fail. Charm only goes so far.
Posted by: dmr | October 3, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
Angry Black Democrat,
You’re an angry, black, Democrat voting for a ticket, that represents a party, that doesn’t care about you, or your concerns. I’m not saying that because I’m a black Democrat, I’m say it because history shows it to be true. From the Civil Rights movement, to Affirmative Action, equal opportunity, joblessness, the judicial system,and Hurricane Katrina. The Republican Party has shown a total lack of concern, regard, empathy, and willingness to address the concerns of African-Americans. And have in fact done everthing they could to impede the progress of African-Americans. This is America, and you can vote for whomever you like, but don’t kid yourself about what, and whom you’re voting for.
Posted by: randy | October 3, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
Were you aware that 760,000 jobs have been lost so far in 2008?
_____________________________
It will get much worse with Osama’s tax increases on small businesses and corporations.
Posted by: s mebep | October 3, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
You mean BIDEN was flawless. The headline is totally wrong.
Fixed that for ya.
Posted by: abillmann | October 3, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
the VP debate was stunning. Palin did a decent job faking about 20% of the questions and didn’t even bother answering the other 80%.
i couldn’t help thinking of the end of the movie Billy Madison, when the debate moderator says to Adam Sandler, “Mr. Madison, what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.”
Posted by: movie fan | October 3, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
Only a democrat would NOT care that their presidential candidate hangs out with terrorists.
Imagine Osama invting the Loonie Iranaian into the Oral office for cheese and crackers.
Posted by: s mebep | Oct 3, 2008 6:28:52 PM
You are nothing but a Republican troll. To think people like you actually breathe thinking people’s air.
Posted by: J | October 3, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
I thought all you lefties loved Hilary? The Clinton’s will sink Obama’s campain in October by secretly releaseing dirt to the Repubs that they have on Obama . October should be fun!!!
Posted by: Ynot | October 3, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm
Why is this news?
Posted by: a reader in georgia | October 3, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
Hill and Bill are going to seal this bad boy. Watch them sit tight in Florida and Ohio and campaign relentlessly for the next month.
Did you see Bill in Florida?? He is on his game. Unparalleled in campaigning.
Hilary Clinton, Supreme Court Justice.
Obama 08
Posted by: Jobamatx | October 3, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
I know most of us dont want to hear it but the bottomline is most McCain/Palin
supporters are either idiots or racist. Maybe I’m wrong but you would have to be a
complete idiot to believe that a McCain/Palin Administration would be any different than The Bush Administration.
They’re campaign policies are the exact same, the past 8 years has been a resounding failure across the board.
I keep hearing about how the surge worked and The Obama/Biden ticket refuses to admit it.
Here’s the deal and correct me if I’m wrong “were we not in Iraq 3-4 years (prior to the surge) spending 100′s a millions if dollars a day
while thousands of Iraq citizens and hundreds of U.S. troops were being killed or wounded?.
Not to mention this is an unjust, undeclared war fought without the full participation of our allies, under false
pretenses that McCain has supported from Day 1. With that said and you still believe McCain is a better choice
to become the next POTUS thats proof postive you’re indeed an idiot. On the other hand if your beef with Obama
is because you just cant fathom or stomach voting for a black man, when he’s clearly the better choice,
then that qualifies you as a racist and theres no other way for me to sugarcoat it. I’m sure you’ll deny or rationalize your
anti-Obama postion but in your heart of hearts you know the truth, stop lying to yourselves and do whats best for the country
and support The Obama/Biden ticket, this is our future people, this is our childrens future “DONT BE AN IDIOT”.
THINK ABOUT THIS AND POST YOUR HONEST OPINION
What if John McCain were a former president of the Harvard Law Review?
What if Barack Obama finished fifth from the bottom of his graduating class?
What if McCain were still married to the first woman he said ‘I do’ to?
What if Obama were the candidate who left his cancer striken wife after she no longer measured up to his standards?
What if Michelle Obama became addicted to painkillers and acquired them illegally through her charitable organization?
What if Cindy McCain graduated from Harvard?
What if Obama were a member of the ‘Keating 5′?
If these questions reflected reality, do you really believe the election numbers would be as close as they are?
This is what racism does. It covers up, rationalizes and minimizes positive qualities in one candidate and
emphasizes negative qualities in another when there is a color difference. Race always plays a role stop kidding yourselves.
Posted by: IdiotHater | October 3, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
I may be a Republican troll – but at least I am not stupid enough to vote for Osama Obama – who hangs out with Terrorists.
Posted by: s mebep | October 3, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
** It will get much worse with Osama’s tax increases on small businesses and corporations. **
Don’t know what rock you have been living under, but Obama does not plan to change the corporate tax structure on bit.
Posted by: James Waters | October 3, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
Posted by: Jobamatx | Oct 3, 2008 6:37:55 PM
Both Clintons are excellent campaigners and they are doing more than previous candidates have done. I’d like to see Hillary in an Obama administration.
Posted by: J | October 3, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm
The Headline of this piece is misleading. The text of the piece says Hillary Clinton would describe Joe Biden’s debate performance as “flawless”; she thought Palin was “very good”. And Clinton reiterated her support for her former Democratic rivals during the radio interview.
Posted by: sawrad | October 3, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
I may be a Republican troll – but at least I am not stupid enough to vote for Osama Obama – who hangs out with Terrorists.
Posted by: s mebep | Oct 3, 2008 6:38:29 PM
On the idiot scale you are a 10.
Posted by: J | October 3, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
Hillary you and Bill have done enough to help Obama – more than ANY OTHER candidate that lost the nomination. Enough is enough..no matter what you do his supporters will claim you havent done enough. If Obama gets in office he will kick you and Bll to the curb no matter what. Thats his pattern and he always has to be in control of everything and everyone. We know you have had to campaign for this radical empty suit but enough already !!!
Posted by: jimbo | October 3, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
Hilary lost! Stop being babies and get over it!
Posted by: Justeace | October 3, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
hillary,
i and so many other supporters still believe in your message and plan to lead america back on the right track. see you in 2012. we will back back w/ a united party unlike any other. HILLARY ROCKS!
sincerely,
loyal hillary supporter!
Posted by: mario | October 3, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
s mebep — 95% of the small businesses in the USA earn less than $250,000 a year, therefore, under Obama’s plan NONE of those businesses would see any increase in taxes, NO INCREASE IN TAXES AT ALL.
John McCain’s tax breaks leave 100 million middle class people out (they get no tax cut at all)
100 million people would NOT get ANY tax cuts with John McCain’s tax plans.
John McCain is giving Billions of dollars of tax cuts to Wall street companies, and leaving 100 million middle class people out!
Posted by: petra | October 3, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
Why all the critiques? Palin is just a pretty face designed and elevated to grab Hillary women. It is so sad that McCain had to go that low. I think the American people are smarter than that. It will show when McCain concedes come November.
Biden was a class act. Palin was a robot who talks funny.
Posted by: Obama 4 POTUS | October 3, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
Why does the headline say Clinton says
“PALIN FLAWLESS”? Right wing bias, perhaps?
Posted by: Allen B | October 3, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
ABCnews.com – you people are totally incompetent. THAT’S WHAT SHE SAID ABOUT BIDEN, NOT PALIN.
Posted by: Ed | October 3, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
Angry Black Democrat: I do agreed. No to Obamam no to ACORN, and no to democratic party.
Posted by: Another Angry Black Democrat | October 3, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
Can someone explain to me why your hero (Osama Obama) thinks it is OK to leave newborn babies to die in stainless steel bowls on hospital counters with no medical care.
No this is not a joke – he voted for NO medical care for newborn babies (who were originally intended to be killed but the killing failed) FOUR times.
Not just poor judgement – but MORBID !
Posted by: s mebep | October 3, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
Are you going to fix this headline or what!? Don’t make me contact advertisers. We don’t need any more false support for Palin. I’m glad our expectations are so low that whenever a republican candidate doesn’t cry during a debate it is considered a success. Do we really want these low expectations for someone who may be the next President? Oh yeah, I forgot that she is a maverick and an oil and gas regulator, despite not mentioning one fact to support these positions. I am going to start using this stuff in real life from now on, let’s see how well it works.
“Hi boss, I am the best employee and saved the company. I don’t have any evidence, but take my word for it. Because I say it, it must be true.”
Posted by: Ryan | October 3, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
Why does the headline say Clinton says
“PALIN FLAWLESS”? Right wing bias, perhaps?
Posted by: Allen B | October 3, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
At least Palin aint like Dan Quayle
Posted by: Jethro | October 3, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
Posted by: Obama 4 POTUS | Oct 3, 2008 6:44:00 PM
Her accent reminds me of an old Pennsylvania dutch woman….lol
Posted by: J | October 3, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
s mebep — 95% of the small businesses in the USA earn less than $250,000 a year
you lie – it is 50 per cent (another of Joe Bidens lies)
So what I ask – still those over 250K – those are 2/3 small business – Osamas tax hikes will kill America
NOBAMA !
Posted by: s mebep | October 3, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
Anyone who celebrates Sarah Palin’s exceeding the lowest expectations ever in a debate should be ashamed of themselves. All she had to do was not poop in her hand and throw it around the room to exceed expectations. That’s not winning a debate. That’s pathetic to begin with.
Palin is the last person on Earth who should be calling anybody unqualified for anything. She acts like the average American is some beer-swilling, fat, booger-eating ignoramus and condescends to us by referring to us as Joe Sixpack. It’s insulting to act as if the average American needs some ditz talking down to us like we’re four years old and can’t handle straight talk about the state of our country. We don’t need her “Aw shucks, golly darn it!” cheerleading crap. We need a serious candidate who is intelligent enough to deal with the issues facing us today.
The absurd notion that intelligence is a horrible thing is pathetic. When dealing with the most complex economy in the world, the threat of terrorism, fighting two wars overseas, housing crises, etc…do we want the sports anchor from Alaska and the guy who graduated almost last in his class? Seriously. Why wouldn’t we want the smartest guy in the room?
The dumbing down of America needs to stop. Being smart is a good thing. Being condescending to millions of average Americans like myself just pisses me off.
Obama’s the obvious choice.
Posted by: Karl | October 3, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
It is unfortunate that the McCain/Palin supporters cannot even defend their own candidates positions on a single issue. Perhaps that is because when you look at the issues and what each candidate proposes, there really is no defense.
The only defense they have is to attack. Take the focus off the issues, so nobody realizes it until it’s too late. That is exactly how dubba got into office and we have been paying the price ever since.
Posted by: James Waters | October 3, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
At least Palin aint like Dan Quayle
Posted by: Jethro | Oct 3, 2008 6:46:19 PM
We don’t know that, ask her to spell potato(e)….lol
Posted by: J | October 3, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
Bakersfield,
You need only to look to your right… John McCain chose “poor” Sarah Palin as his running mate without ever vetting her. Thrusting her into the spotlight, and a position she is not nearly ready, or qualified for. This isn’t just Dems., and left wingers saying this. Many right wing consevatives are saying the same thing. He threw several members of his staff “under the bus” after it was reveled they had lobbyist ties. Remeber Rev. Hagee? Neither does John McCain. Oh yeah… and when was the last time we heard from Carla Fiorini? Not since her “Palin isn’t qualified to run a hugh company” gaffe. Can anybody say “under the bus”? John McCain has turned his back on every principle he ever had in order to win this election. If I were you, I would worry about my own candidates principles, and morals. Wait…I don’t want to leave out the whole leave my crippled wife for the hot 24 yr. old thing. What an upstanding guy.
Posted by: randy | October 3, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
She acts like the average American is some beer-swilling, fat, booger-eating ignoramus and condescends to us by referring to us as Joe Sixpack.Posted by: Karl | Oct 3, 2008 6:47:17 PM
You just described s mebep .
Posted by: J | October 3, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
Republican Trolls like to spread the Foxnews hate. I love it. If Obama is such a terrorist, what are you prepared to do when he is your Commander in Chief? Hope that he just goes away? Why would you fill yourself with such childish hate? obama is an American and a statesman. He was also the only Presidential candidate in this race born on US soil.
McCain is a Atheistic war monger, who is super rich and super old. he is the face of a failed Washington. This country belongs to the citizens, not the Billion Dollar corporations that McCain really cares about.
Posted by: Obamatized | October 3, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
Seriously. Why wouldn’t we want the smartest guy in the room?
Right, so why vote for Obama then? Unless you meant shrewd rather than smart.
Posted by: Kremlin | October 3, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
** So what I ask – still those over 250K – those are 2/3 small business – Osamas tax hikes will kill America **
According to IRS figures, roughly 4% of Americans earn greater than $250,000. And if you look at sole propritorships, less than 15% earn over $250,000. I’ve got a good idea where your numbers were pulled from, but they do not reflect reality.
http://www.irs.gov/taxstats/indtaxstats/article/0,,id=98123,00.html
Posted by: James Waters | October 3, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
I think the government should pass a law to wipe-out everyone bad debt that appear on thier credit reports as they are doing for the banks. This way the banks and the people can start on equal ground. AFter the banks get all of this money from taxpayer why would the bank gives me money if I have a foreclosure on my report?
Posted by: jjoy | October 3, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
*** Can someone explain to me why your hero (Osama Obama) thinks it is OK to leave newborn babies to die in stainless steel bowls on hospital counters with no medical care. ***
Can you explain where you get this stupidity from?
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obama_and_infanticide.html
Posted by: James Waters | October 3, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
ABC please correct your headline,
Hillary said BIDEN was flawless not Palin!!!!
Posted by: hopesprings52 | October 3, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
She acts like the average American is some beer-swilling, fat, booger-eating ignoramus and condescends to us by referring to us as Joe Sixpack
And Obama saying we’re bitter Americans clinging to guns and religion is not condescending? I think you started on the Kool-Aid a little early today.
Posted by: Josef S | October 3, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
For all the uneducated people that took Hillary Clinton comment out of tex and ran with it. Yes, she praise Sarah Palin because she was shocked that the dumb lady was able to say as much as she did especially since she dont know nothing. Palin is a disaster waiting to happen and a vindictive one also. And for the ignorant ones out there that couldnt see through Palin she is as fake as it comes. And she still didnt know what she was talking about. And why crush Obama, at least he will have a man in the office with him like Biden that know a lot about policies and how to run the economy. Your sorry President Bush whom most of your ignorant asses voted for is the one who got you in this mess anyway. So go head and vote McCain and Palin and start looking for a tent to live in once they make office. Because if the world is bad now Surely your Million Dollar President McCain will see you on the streets while he feast in his 12 house.
Posted by: claudia | October 3, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
Posted by: James Waters | Oct 3, 2008 6:53:47 PM
Out of his A$$. Typical Republican talking points.
Posted by: J | October 3, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
I thought all you lefties loved Hilary? The Clinton’s will sink Obama’s campain in October by secretly releaseing dirt to the Repubs that they have on Obama . October should be fun!!!
Posted by: Ynot | Oct 3, 2008 6:36:42 PM
There will be a LOT of surprises for the idiot Obama this month! I can’t wait!
Posted by: dk | October 3, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
The Clintons have some serious opposition research (dirt) on Obama that she would’nt use in her campain, I wonder what it was that was so serious ? My guess is that it somehow ends up in McCain’s campain without the Clinton’s being implicated!!!
Posted by: Ynot | October 3, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
Biden was very good and yes, Palin did better then I expected. And I do acknowledge, as a female she is attractive and confident and looks really well on television. But as far as I am concern, there was not much substance to her points. I believe that because she knew that it was possible she would not remember the points or would not know the answer to a question, she provide herself a way out by indicating in the beginning that she would answer her own questions. That is not debating. To me when she did not answer the questions, I believe it was because she either forgot her lines or she did not know the answers.
Posted by: Opinion | October 3, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
Claudia….get a life, you DemWit!
Posted by: dk | October 3, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
It appeared that each time Palin got stuck she resorted back to telling Biden “let’s stop pointing fingers backwards at what the Bush admn did wrong.” And she’d repeate past attacks on Obama. She appeared scripted as if someone had told her, “If you get stuck on something, say this or that to divert attention away from yourself and your lack of knowing what to say.” Palin came across as sounding scripted and thoroughly coached. And on the rare when she finally felt she had a brilliant convincing something to say she perked up and lit up with it. Clutching it like a lifeline.
Posted by: MyTake_OnDebate | October 3, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
I am reasonably sure that Palin doesn’t have aspirations to run for president. She isn’t a Washington insider and will not be going to Washington to stay like most professionals politicians do. Alaska is in her blood. There is no other place like it.
McCain/Palin does give Clinton a clear shot for the White House in 2012. If Obama wins, he will have this country so screwed up because of his dubious associations, if the country survives, there will be no way a Democrat will be elected again.
Don’t worry too much about the polls. They are being heavily weighted to try to show momentum and the bail-out debacle has enfluenced them as well. That will subside. The media showed Kerry ahead and Gore ahead too and look what happened.
Clinton 2012
Posted by: Diana | October 3, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
** I think you started on the Kool-Aid a little early today. **
Exactly.. I cannot imagine why Palin would continue along this “We are for the middle class” path when it is more than apparent, looking at McCains tax and health plans, that they are simply for the wealthy and big corporations. His tax plan will do nothing for the low and middle class, and his taxation on employer paid health plans for the first time in history, combined with a tax credit that will nowhere come close to paying for an average family health insurance policy will just cause more Americans to lose their health coverage.
And yet, people still buy it. Amazing.
Posted by: James Waters | October 3, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
Yes, she praise Sarah Palin because she was shocked that the dumb lady was able to say as much as she did especially since she dont know nothing.
Wow, I didn’t see that in the article, you must have some personal insight into what Hillary actually thinks and meant. All bow to claudia!
Posted by: Geezer | October 3, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
is it me or does the headline say the wrong thing. She said Biden was FLAWLESS not PALIN dumb ABC great journalism
Posted by: frank | October 3, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
s mebep – or whatever the hell your name is:
Obama answers the questions! ASS!
Posted by: jj | October 3, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
The nomination of Barack Obama over Hillary Clinton is just another example of the best woman for the job being passed over for an underqualified man.
Bush is absolutely terrible and McCain could be worse; but just wait till you see 4 years with an angry, racist black man in the oval office.
Posted by: Alex | October 3, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
Read between the lines, HRC Democrats! Bill and now Hillary are trying to be subtle but they want you to vote McCain. She will be back in 4 years IF and only IF McCain is elected. We all know she is the best of the three and would have beaten John McCain handily.
Posted by: Jen | October 3, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
Hillary said BIDEN (not Palin) was “flawless”. ABCNEWS.com, Please read your own stories (and correct your top page link to the story).
Posted by: Time after time | October 3, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
From:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/10/joe-sixpack-speaks.html
Friday, October 03, 2008
Joe Sixpack Speaks
Come on in.
I prefer Joseph, really. It’s not a status thing. It’s just, you know, once I was walking down the street in Wasilla, it was all “Hey, Joe!” “Hey, Joey!”
Yes, that’s right, I don’t drop my “g”s. What is that, anyway? There is a “g” at the end of the word, after all.
The thing is, sure I like bowling, poker. But I also like Vivaldi, you know? It’s so condescending. It’s as if they’re trying to draw a caricature, a one-dimensional person for purely political purposes.
(Brushes hair back with his hand. Steam from radiator hisses softly in background)
And did you ever notice how the people who use the term “Joe Sixpack” are never from the lower class of the population themselves?
It’s an act, really, on their part, just a political vehicle, a means to an end. If I was working for her, and said just one thing the wrong way, you can be sure that ol’ Joe Sixpack would be canned just as fast as a load of Wasilla salmon.
Personally, I’d rather have someone who saw me as an actual person, not a political trope. They’re more likely to care about me and my kids’ needs, rather than using the false empathy designed to once again lure the middle and lower classes with populist appeals that are then brutally contradicted by their policies.
I mean, it’s as if they’re hoping that we’re stupid, so that we’ll fall for the same old empty words, and then they think we’ll just fall asleep again once they’re in office, while they cater to their buddies again, you know?
(Dog barks). Quiet, Bruno!
It’s like they create a symbol of a false humanity, in order to avoid dealing with our actual problems and needs. It’s like my foreman told me, who’s that guy, what’s his name, oh yeah, Dostoyevsky said: “A man who lies to himself, and believes his own lies, becomes unable to recognize truth, either in himself or in anyone else.”
Anyway, I’ve got to get going. You can take the rest of the six-pack with you if you want. I’m giving the stuff up. Fogs the head, makes you vote for these opportunistic guys, you don’t hear what they really are saying.
Not this time.
This time, it’s going to be different.
Cite:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/10/joe-sixpack-speaks.html
Posted by: Jana Walter | October 3, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
Guess how Palin became a “hockey mom”
Her son was cut cutting the brakes from over 50 elementary school buses. Lucky for one driver, it was found out before children were put in danger.
So they send her son to juvenile school in Michigan where he spent his time…playing hockey!
She’s got a teenage pregnant daughter and a juvenile dilinquent…and she wants to take care of MY family?
RIGHT.
Posted by: Palinexposed | October 3, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
This is a dumb question, but I have to ask it. Is ANYONE on this blog unbiased?
Posted by: Avalon | October 3, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
Palin has performed well under tough circumstances and intense performance pressure. Hillary obviously sees the potential.
Posted by: rafraf | October 3, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
This is my top five candidates:
Hillary #1
McCain #2
Biden #3
Palin #4
Obama #5
Posted by: young_voter | October 3, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
Palin has performed well under tough circumstances and intense performance pressure. Hillary obviously sees the potential.
Posted by: rafraf | October 3, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
I don’t get the headline on the front page. It’s misleading and obvious most of you haven’t actually read what she said.
She called BIDEN flawless not Palin. All she did was call Palin effective in teh debate. But she goes on to say that McCain\Palin would be wrong for the USA… GOP people looking at that and taking confort or causing trouble really are desperate…
Oh and where was she when she said it? At a Bon Jovi concert raising millions in funds for Obama. Still obviously not supporting him.
Posted by: Pete | October 3, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
Change the headline! Very misleading!
Clinton is quoted saying “Joe Biden’s debate performance as “flawless” NOT Palin. What kind of garbage writing is this?
Posted by: Todd | October 3, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
If anybody thinks Obama is going to lose, then it’s a huge mistake.
Posted by: peter | October 3, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
Dostoyevsky said: “A man who lies to himself, and believes his own lies, becomes unable to recognize truth, either in himself or in anyone else.”
Sheesh, you just described 99% of Washington.
Posted by: Avalon | October 3, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
I was a strong Hillary supporter who was seriously planning on voting for Obama until last night. Her frank, honest style has proven to me that while the Democrats have made promises about making change to empower women, the Republicans are actually doing it. It’s not about talk and promises any longer, it’s about ACTION and RESULTS!
Go Sarah!
Posted by: Paula | October 3, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
ALL OF YOU FAKE DEMOCRATS(FOR HILLARY NOW VOTING MCCAIN)BETTER BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR. YOU DO KNOW THAT IF HILLARY WAS RUNNING RIGHT NOW SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN PUT THROUGH THE COALS. WITH ALL OF HER AND BILL’S SORDID BACKGROUND(AND ALOT OF IT IS SORDID) SHE PROBABLY WOULD NOT HAVE SUCCEEDED. I WANTED HILLARY TOO BUT I WOULD NEVER SWITCH PARTIES BECAUSE I’M “MAD” OR “UPSET”. IF YOU DO THIS JUST STAY REPUBLICAN. DO NOT COME BACK. YOU NOW FIT RIGHT IN WITH THE REPUBICAN RIGHT. GOOD LUCK.
Posted by: skinniib | October 3, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm
We all need to be concerned and know more about Biden’s health. Biden had surgery twice for brain aneurysm to correct an aneurysm in an artery that supplies blood to the right side of the brain. His last surgery was in 1988 and he did not returned to the senator for 7 months after the initial diagnosis, after suffering a pulmonary embolus (blood clot in the lungs), requiring another surgery between his two brain operations. And, we are worry about McCain’s health.
Posted by: suzy | October 3, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm
I was a strong Hillary supporter who was seriously planning on voting for Obama until last night. Her frank, honest style has proven to me that while the Democrats have made promises about making change to empower women, the Republicans are actually doing it. It’s not about talk and promises any longer, it’s about ACTION and RESULTS!
Go Sarah!
Posted by: Paula | Oct 3, 2008 7:07:01 PM
Quit lying. If you bought into that bs I feel sorry for you. She sounded like June Cleaver on steroids. If you ever did support Hillary McCain/Palin stand for everything Hillary is against.
Posted by: J | October 3, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
you need to realize how professionally slick the clinton’s are. both are careful not to criticize the other side too negatively because they both know that those undecided voters who like both candidates are still undecided and they carefully craft their words with the possibility of winning those people to the dem’s side. whether you believe this or not, the clintons desperately want to keep their names alive and will fight for their ticket no matter what for nothing more than being remembered as the golden couple of democrats. obama is smart enough to know this and he is using them…yea for him…unlike kerry and gore…they lost. mr clinton was screaming in florida for obama…red faced and fisted and all. guess what, obama is up in florida!!
Posted by: barb | October 3, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
** This is a dumb question, but I have to ask it. Is ANYONE on this blog unbiased? **
Many are. Many are not. Most who are biased however cannot come up with a single reason why they support the stance of their candidate.
For example:
McCains trickle down taxation plan is what got us into the financial mess we are in today. You cannot keep borrowing money to pay for your expenses. Like a home equity loan, you can only keep borrowing against it until you have no equity left.. then you wind up losing your home. That is exactly what is happening to America.. just look at the deficit.
Both Obama and McCains health care plans will cost roughly the same, but Obamas will cause more people go get insurance, while McCains will actually cause people to lose coverage. According to a recent Economic Policy Institute and Wall Street Journal analysis, and estimated 20 million will lose coverage under McCains plan. And Obamas plan will be more efficent.
I have yet hear anyone provide valid reasons for supporting McCain.
Posted by: James Waters | October 3, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
Posted by: suzy | Oct 3, 2008 7:08:31 PM
Newsflash, Biden isn’t running for POTUS.I would be concerned about McCain’s health knowing that Caribou Moose Hunter is waiting in the wings.
Posted by: J | October 3, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
Saying that Palin did a good job for the Republican party is like keeping a horse in a race with a broken leg. He can’t win.
Posted by: Maggie | October 3, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
So let me get this straight…
Sarah Palin’s son was caught cutting the brakes from school buses then he gets sent to a school in MI where he plays hockey and that is why she is claiming to be a “hockey mom”?
ARE YOU KIDDING ME? That is her claim to being a hockey mom?
Her son would have put all those children in danger and she is bragging that she is a HOCKEY MOM!!!!!!!
Posted by: unbelievable | October 3, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
Dostoyevsky said: “A man who lies to himself, and believes his own lies, becomes unable to recognize truth, either in himself or in anyone else.”
Sheesh, you just described 99% of Washington.
Yep, the 1% would be mens and womens room attendants and parking valets. The rest are all crooks and liars.
Posted by: Ovaltine | October 3, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm
I can’t believe what I’m reading…but if it’s true, Sarah Palin should tell the truth about her claim to being a “hockey mom.”
This is not right.
Posted by: Thomas | October 3, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
Rasmussen has Obama up by three in North Carolina, 50 to 47. Recent data reveals that Obama is leading new voter registrations 2 to 1. Just this past weekend here in North Carolina, the Obama campaign statewide registered 107,000 new voters in a two day period. That is a record for NC. We are doing are part in NC to force the McCain campaign to have to defend a traditional red state which will only help our cause to turn CO, NM and VA. OBAMA 08′
Posted by: the_peoples_pres | October 3, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
Hillary didn’t say Palin was “flawless” as the subject line suggest. She said, Biden was “flawless” and Palin was composed and effective. It’s what we’ve always been taught about being good sports about any opponent and not the mudslinging dirty tactics the GOP has so adopted in recent and previous elections. It’s obvious whoever wrote this blog is bias and is a Palin/McCain supporter.
Posted by: WhatWasReallySaid | October 3, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
It is time to kick Pelosi and the democrats out, and keep Bush as president.
Posted by: Sandy | October 3, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
It is time to kick Pelosi and the democrats out, and keep Bush as president.
Posted by: Sandy | Oct 3, 2008 7:16:04 PM
That is the stupidest thing I have heard today. Thanks for the laugh.
Posted by: J | October 3, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
Karl– Brilliant post. thanks for saying what millions of us think.
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Anyone who celebrates Sarah Palin’s exceeding the lowest expectations ever in a debate should be ashamed of themselves. All she had to do was not poop in her hand and throw it around the room to exceed expectations. That’s not winning a debate. That’s pathetic to begin with.
Palin is the last person on Earth who should be calling anybody unqualified for anything. She acts like the average American is some beer-swilling, fat, booger-eating ignoramus and condescends to us by referring to us as Joe Sixpack. It’s insulting to act as if the average American needs some ditz talking down to us like we’re four years old and can’t handle straight talk about the state of our country. We don’t need her “Aw shucks, golly darn it!” cheerleading crap. We need a serious candidate who is intelligent enough to deal with the issues facing us today.
The absurd notion that intelligence is a horrible thing is pathetic. When dealing with the most complex economy in the world, the threat of terrorism, fighting two wars overseas, housing crises, etc…do we want the sports anchor from Alaska and the guy who graduated almost last in his class? Seriously. Why wouldn’t we want the smartest guy in the room?
The dumbing down of America needs to stop. Being smart is a good thing. Being condescending to millions of average Americans like myself just pisses me off.
Obama’s the obvious choice.
Posted by: matt | October 3, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
Sarah is flawless. What a bretah of fresh air this woman is. http://www.sarahpalinfanclub.com
Posted by: dlw | October 3, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
Obama will never be President, I could explain all the inside info. to you but it would be a waste of my time. Believe what you like, but the secret elite oil and banking group has chosen McCain just like they picked Clinton before he even ran for president. These people dont lose, just look at the bailout vote to se what they controll. Obama may have been an ok president, but it wont happen and God help him if he does…
Posted by: Ynot | October 3, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
Hillary supporter here…voting for McCain….god I hope he doesn’t die!
Posted by: NubTail | October 3, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
No Baden isn’t running for POTUS but Obama did claimed that he picked Baden for his experienc and to cover for the experience he lack. No experience Obama needs Baden to help him lead but Baden may not be in his right mind today or tomorrow. This is way, I over look Baden if he say some wrong.
Posted by: suzy | October 3, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
ATTENTION ABC NEWS– PLEASE CHANGE THE INCORRECT TITLE OF THIS ARTICLE. it is NOT “Hillary to Ryan Seacrest: Palin Flawless”
how can this get by on your main page ALL day long?? who’s in charge of this thing, Bay Buchanan?
Posted by: earl | October 3, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
Anyone who celebrates Sarah Palin’s exceeding the lowest expectations ever in a debate should be ashamed of themselves.
Oh you make me feel so ashamed. Ok I’ll follow you and whatever you say. I don’t know what came over me, but you obviously have wisdom others don’t, so just tell me how I should vote and I’ll do it.
Posted by: Loser | October 3, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
Where in this story does she call Palin “flawless?” Fix your misleading headline ABC.
Posted by: Mel | October 3, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
No Baden isn’t running for POTUS but Obama did claimed that he picked Baden for his experienc and to cover for the experience he lack. No experience Obama needs Baden to help him lead but Baden may not be in his right mind today or tomorrow. This is way, I over look Baden if he say some wrong.
Posted by: suzy | Oct 3, 2008 7:20:55 PM
Can you please type that in english. Who’s going to help McCain? Caribou Barbie?….lol.It’s scary to think that she would take over if McCain croaks.
Posted by: J | October 3, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
** Believe what you like, but the secret elite oil and banking group has chosen McCain **
It is no secret that McCain is all about being for the wealthy and big corporates. That is not a headline. Just look at his tax plan and it’s distribution. Huge cuts for the wealthy, zip for low and middle class. Palin’s home state of Alaska receives the majority of it’s revenue from oil. You don’t have to be a psychic to figure out where their loyalties are, and they aren’t the “joe 6-packs” as Mrs. Palin calls the hard working Americans out there just trying to keep a home over their families head.
Posted by: James Waters | October 3, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
MUST READ!!!!!! MUST READ!!!!!!
Sarah Palin Son Track Palin Going To Iraq To Avoid Jail Time?
By Dylan on Sep 6, 2008 in US News |
Sarah Palin Son Track Palin Going To Iraq To Avoid Jail Time? – Sarah Palin’s son Track Palin has joined the army to avoid going to prison.Track Palin is not going to Iraq because he is patriotic but because he was arrested,for vandalizing the brakes of a school bus,in order to avoid jail he enlisted himself in the army.Track Palin will be performing security duties for his brigade’s top officers in Iraq starting on September 11, 2008.That’s all we have for now on Sarah Palin Son Track Palin Going To Iraq To Avoid Jail Time?
Posted by: TinaF | October 3, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
Paige said: Palin and Cheney both have a love affair with oil and both have abuse of power investigations going on. Here is the status of hers.
And Obama is being investigated for campaign fraud. Taking contributions from Iran of all places, and not disclosing the fact. When asked to disclose, his campaign declines to answer. I wonder what that means?
Also..today…Larry Walsh from Will County Illinois had the FBI raid his office. He is a friend of Obama’s, and has helped him campaign, and Obama campaigned for him. Obama also did more than that….something to do with earmarks. Hmmm
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/03/fbi-raids-obama-friends-office/
Posted by: Jeanie | October 3, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
Hello out there~ are there any sane people out there??
Look at the economy, the environment, our children falling behind every other country in their education…
Don’t vote McCain or Hillary this year, VOTE OBAMA
Don’t we owe a future to our children???
Posted by: karen miller | October 3, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
Obama stated he did not have forgein policy experience and he had picked Baden to guide him in this area. What if Biden has another brain anesurysm and what will Obama do with no experience?
Posted by: suzy | October 3, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
I’ll make a deal with the Dems. If you can get the Cubs to win the next 3 in a row I’ll vote for Obama.
Posted by: Chi-town | October 3, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
People keep saying that Biden lies too much. I do not see it that why. Biden has a health issue that may affect this thought so I over look what he say most of the time.
Posted by: suzy | October 3, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
Vote Obama if you Love America.
Vote McCain if you Damn America.
Posted by: M | October 3, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
The peoples prez said: Rasmussen has Obama up by three in North Carolina, 50 to 47. Recent data reveals that Obama is leading new voter registrations 2 to 1. Just this past weekend here in North Carolina, the Obama campaign statewide registered 107,000 new voters in a two day period. That is a record for NC. We are doing are part in NC to force the McCain campaign to have to defend a traditional red state which will only help our cause to turn CO, NM and VA. OBAMA 08′
And all states that are considered battle ground states, as well as a few others are being watched carefully with all these new registrations. Seems that wonderful organization by the name of ACORN likes to dabble in illegal voting practices.
Posted by: Jeanie | October 3, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
Posted by: karen miller | Oct 3, 2008 7:25:38 PM
What convinced me to vote Obama was Hillary and Bill’s speeches at the convention. I also thought about my 3 year old niece and my other nieces and nephews futures. We need to stop and thnk what is best for the future of the children in this country, and McCain and Palin are not it.
Posted by: J | October 3, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
** Obama stated he did not have forgein policy experience and he had picked Baden to guide him in this area. **
He never claimed to not have experience. In case you missed it, he does sit on the foreign relations committee in senate, along with several other international and foreign subcommittees, and specalized in international relations on college.
And McCain/Palin? No comment.
Posted by: James Waters | October 3, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
Sarah Palin Son Track Palin Going To Iraq To Avoid Jail Time? – Sarah Palin’s son Track Palin has joined the army to avoid going to prison.
This is so dumb. The military hasn’t done this since the draft was stopped. Obviously you’ve never served a day in your life. At least come up with a lie that sounds good.
Posted by: Lefty O'Doule | October 3, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
Obama stated he did not have forgein policy experience and he had picked Baden to guide him in this area. What if Biden has another brain anesurysm and what will Obama do with no experience?
Posted by: suzy | Oct 3, 2008 7:26:26 PM
He will have other advisors..duhhh.
Posted by: J | October 3, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm
Oh those crazy Clintons. What won’t the say in praise of McCain/Palin in a last ditch effort to ensure that Hillary can run in 2012. If they spent half as much time praising their own party’s candidates as they do McSame/Fail’in…wait…I was just about to imply anyone cares anymore.
Posted by: Mikeinwa | October 3, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm
SARAH EXPOSED FOR HYPOCRACY!!!!
YOU MUST READ THE FOLLOWING!!!!!
Sarah Palin Son Track Palin Going To Iraq To Avoid Jail Time?
By Dylan on Sep 6, 2008 in US News |
Sarah Palin Son Track Palin Going To Iraq To Avoid Jail Time? – Sarah Palin’s son Track Palin has joined the army to avoid going to prison.Track Palin is not going to Iraq because he is patriotic but because he was arrested,for vandalizing the brakes of a school bus,in order to avoid jail he enlisted himself in the army.Track Palin will be performing security duties for his brigade’s top officers in Iraq starting on September 11, 2008.That’s all we have for now on Sarah Palin Son Track Palin Going To Iraq To Avoid Jail Time?
Posted by: hockeymomexposed | October 3, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
Wow. Misleading headline much?
Posted by: paronomania | October 3, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
why are some women so enamored with Palin? she has continually done nothing for our sex. I’m a woman, a mother, a Clinton supporter and am voting for Obama/Biden come November. Just because a woman is on a ticket Does Not mean she will advice the cause of women.
Posted by: Nancy Lee | October 3, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
FIX THE HEADLINE ON THE SPLASH PAGE.
http://abcnews.go.com/
upper left corner carousel of top stories.
Hillery called BIDEN’s Performance “Flawless” – NOT Palin’s!! Good Freakin’ Grief!
Posted by: Chris L | October 3, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
“Obama is imploding right now.”
That has to be the best comment of the evening. I can’t imagine going through life and shutting out reality like some of you people here do. It’s unreal. I’m proud to be FOR my candidate and not entirely AGAINST my opponent. I detect a real sense of jealousy among Hillary and McCain supporters alike. Obama is ahead in ALL the polls. Obama and Biden were both declared winners of their debates by polls, Obama has more money, he is ahead in electoral map projections, and he has a vastly better ground game. Wake up. Hillary lost and McCain is losing.
Posted by: Justin | October 3, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
Hockeymomexposed:
Thanks for the info…US NEWS had a report on it. Politico.com has the story, too.
This is ashame. If this is her reason for being a hockey mom, SHE IS NOT REPRESENTING ME.
Posted by: soccermomsrule | October 3, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
Who is flawless?
This article titled Palin “flawless” , followed by a quote of Clinton of prasing Biden ” flawless”.
The only relevance here is a flawed editorial integrity.
Please make up your mind before you report.
Posted by: Confused | October 3, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
I watched the debate between Governor Palin (5 weeks of national debate experience) versus Senator Biden (35 years of national debate experience).
Obviously, she is a quick study. Just imagine what she will be like after four years as vice president! She has been a Mayor and a Governor. She is more qualified than anyone running.
John McCain showed great judgment in choosing her.
It’s too bad the DNC and biased media didn’t “select” Biden or Hillary. OBAMA HAS BASED HIS ENTIRE CAMPAIGN ON LIES. HE HAS TOO MANY TIES TO TERRORISTS AND ANTI-AMERICANS. DON’T FORGET “God Damn America” JEREMIAH WRIGHT, PFLEGER, FARRAKHAN, AYERS, REZKO (TO NAME A FEW). BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA IS A DANGER TO OUR COUNTRY. Obama’s ties to organizations like “ACORN” caused much of the country’s mortgage foreclosure issues. ACORN IS UNDER INVESTIGATION FOR “VOTER FRAUD” IN MANY STATES! Obama is a wolf in sheep’s clothing.
I’m voting for the Honorable John McCain in November.
STOP THE DRAMA – NO OBAMA!
GET A BRAIN – VOTE McCAIN!
Posted by: REPLACE DO-NOTHING DEMS IN CONGRESS | October 3, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
Nancy Lee-
read the following:
Sarah Palin Son Track Palin Going To Iraq To Avoid Jail Time?
By Dylan on Sep 6, 2008 in US News |
Sarah Palin Son Track Palin Going To Iraq To Avoid Jail Time? – Sarah Palin’s son Track Palin has joined the army to avoid going to prison.Track Palin is not going to Iraq because he is patriotic but because he was arrested,for vandalizing the brakes of a school bus,in order to avoid jail he enlisted himself in the army.Track Palin will be performing security duties for his brigade’s top officers in Iraq starting on September 11, 2008.That’s all we have for now on Sarah Palin Son Track Palin Going To Iraq To Avoid Jail Time?
thanks, hockeymomexposed.
Posted by: jj | October 3, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
Posted by: Nancy Lee | Oct 3, 2008 7:33:39 PM
You are exactly on the mark. She is and never will be a Hillary Clinton. Those women who will vote McCain because of Palin, don’t have their best interests in mind.
Posted by: J | October 3, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
ABC needs to correct their headline before the mindless republicans start spreading their propaganda. Hillary said Biden was FLAWLESS.
Posted by: Chris | October 3, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
Everyone watch Hannity this Sunday evening. He’s going to bring out all of Obama’s dirty laundry. Meet all of Obama’s pals who got him where he is.
Posted by: Right Wing Express | October 3, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
** This is ashame. If this is her reason for being a hockey mom, SHE IS NOT REPRESENTING ME. **
She does not represent most woman in America, unless they are so far to the right they are about to fall off the table.
In other news, Palins attempts to postpone “Troopergate” has failed, as an Alaskan judge rulled yesterday that the Legislature has every right to continue their investigation and overturned the injunction preventing them from doing so.
And her biggest ‘win’ so far is that she did not put her foot in her mouth during the debate.
All in all, not a good week for Palin.
Posted by: James Waters | October 3, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
You are exactly on the mark. She is and never will be a Hillary Clinton. Those women who will vote McCain because of Palin, don’t have their best interests in mind.
True, only YOU know what their best interests are.
Posted by: Lefty O'Doule | October 3, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
I’m voting for the Honorable John McCain in November.
Posted by: REPLACE DO-NOTHING DEMS IN CONGRESS | Oct 3, 2008 7:35:27 PM
You mean the same honorable John McCain that lies everytime he opens his mouth or the same honorable John McCain that dumped his first wife?
Posted by: J | October 3, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
The headline and the article don’t seem to match. The article said that she thought Biden was “flawless” and Palin was “very good.” The headline didn’t say that.
Posted by: Independent08 | October 3, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
What am I doing? I have no idea what I am talking about,
Posted by: hockeymomexposed | October 3, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
Sarah Palin is a hockey mom, but she doesn’t say how she became one.
Her son cut the brakes of school buses, he got caught, and went to juvenile school. A school where they play hockey.
And she is bragging about it? That is shameful. I’ve been reading the blogs on this story and it’s too bad that she can exploit something so vicious that her son did for her own political gain.
Posted by: phonypalin | October 3, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
Yes Independent08, this has been noted by several here.
Posted by: Fred Indy | October 3, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
Posted by: REPLACE DO-NOTHING DEMS IN CONGRESS | Oct 3, 2008 7:35:27 PM
Hi Sarah…lol
Posted by: J | October 3, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
Fix your front page headline.
Hillary said Biden was “flawless” and that Palin’s was,”composed.” Your headline misquotes Senator Clinton big time.
Posted by: MaryM | October 3, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
Fix your front page headline.
Hillary said Biden was “flawless” and that Palin’s was,”composed.” Your headline misquotes Senator Clinton big time.
Posted by: MaryM | Oct 3, 2008 7:42:49 PM
Imagine that, misquoting a Clinton.
Posted by: J | October 3, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm
J:He will have other advisors..duhhh.
Finally you are seeing and saying what I was trying to get you to see. So will Palin if some thing happen to McCain. Palin and Obama can be President because they have other advisors to support them. So stop saying Palin is just a heart beat away to the President seat. All presidents will have other advisors as well as the VP. So she can become President if some thing happen to McCain.
Posted by: suzy | October 3, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm
Sarah Palin becomes a hockey mom because her son gets arrested. He goes to Iraq to avoid jail time.
At least Biden’s son has an honorable reason for going to Iraq.
Why isn’t the msm covering this story.
If Sarah Palin is claiming to be a “hockey mom”, we ought to know what is behind that title.
Posted by: Thomas | October 3, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
J: There are college grads that are not good spellers. Just watch Jay Leno. Some of them don’t know who the first president was.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | October 3, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm
Palin didn’t make a fool out of herself, so everyone is happy. Glad to see repubs have such high standards.
Maybe if some people actually read the article, it’s BIDEN who is flawless according to Hillary…not Palin.
Dag-gummit.
Posted by: McPalin | October 3, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm
You betcha. by golly … ‘wink’, ‘wink’. Ameria need a beauty queen int he White House.
Posted by: Erin - WA | October 3, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
ct
Posted by: stan | October 3, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
Finally you are seeing and saying what I was trying to get you to see. So will Palin if some thing happen to McCain. Palin and Obama can be President because they have other advisors to support them. So stop saying Palin is just a heart beat away to the President seat. All presidents will have other advisors as well as the VP. So she can become President if some thing happen to McCain.
Posted by: suzy | Oct 3, 2008 7:44:33 PM
Posted by: suzy | Oct 3, 2008 7:44:33 PM
What is the big deal with Biden’s health? It’s more important for the POTUS to be in good health. SHe is a heartbeat away, correct me if I am wrong. At least Obama has a clue about most things, unlike Palin. Oh that’s right she knows about mooseburgers and hockey, gosh darn, geewillikers.
Posted by: J | October 3, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
Kathy: Your are so right. Obama is an empty suit along with an empty head. And I know definately the Clinton’s do not like Obama but are campaigning for him because Hillary wants to keep her senate seat. It looks like the democrat dogs have her in a bind.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | October 3, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
** Finally you are seeing and saying what I was trying to get you to see. **
You apparently missed the difference. Palin has no experience. Biden has probably more than anyone else in Congress. McCain has no foreign relations experience except for where the military is concerned, Obama does have foreign relations experience, but no where as much as Biden. Who in this mix is the only one with zip? Who in this mix has the next least? And who is the pairs running for office?
Posted by: James Waters | October 3, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
J: There are college grads that are not good spellers. Just watch Jay Leno. Some of them don’t know who the first president was.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | Oct 3, 2008 7:46:22 PM
Did I say something about spelling? Don’t think so.
Posted by: J | October 3, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
J: There are college grads that are not good spellers. Just watch Jay Leno. Some of them don’t know who the first president was.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | Oct 3, 2008 7:46:22 PM
Ohhh the potato(e) comment. Well as VP or POTUS you should know how to spell.
Posted by: J | October 3, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm
Hillary wants Nothing to do with running for president in the future she has just cinched it for me. I will NEVER vote for her again NEVER I think Bill has damaged himself too with the dem core too. hell why don’t they just go be lapdogs like Liberman call themselves Independents and have her run and then as a an indy and NOT a DEMOCRAT F her and BILL She got donations from me that will never happen again either I hope she chokes on her Campaign Debt !!!!!!! If it was the other way around Obama would have got behind her and her running mate and supported them and show a UNITED front not this BS Biden too he’d a been out on the stump doing what he could to support a Clinton whoever ticket. again she will NEVER get MY support AGAIN !!!!!!
Posted by: richardcranium1 | October 3, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm
LF…Biden keeps talking about how he and Obama will “change Washington.” Biden has been in Washington more than 30 years and Washington is worse now than before. So if he has had 30 years to make those changes, what will he do different?
Posted by: carolyn | October 3, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
Just because Hillary can admit that Palin was good at her debate, doesn’t mean she “supports” her. I like the fact that she understands that Palin does have her good points, but it is just as important that Hillary realizes that Palin is in no way ready to be second in command! And that goes for all of us; Yes, or course Palin is a good person, a great soccer Mom and not too bad to look at either. But none of these are pre-requisites for the Vice President position. We all know too well, that the right team for the job is Obama-Biden. Isn’t time to get our America back!
Posted by: Don | October 3, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
I never realised what an expert politican Bill is until I heard him talk about Palin. His wife is listening. You only attack things you are afraid of…to attack Palin is to work from the side of weakness. They attack the policies….I don’t respect everything about the Clintons but there’s one thing you can’t ignore….Bill is one smart politican. Probably the best alive.
Posted by: kennedy | October 3, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm
malkittens: Yes, I think your that stupid voting for the democrat dogs. And they will be licking their wounds on November 4th.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | October 3, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm
On the ABC.com front page it reads: “Hillary to Seacrest, Palin Flawless”
…. it is so sick that ABC continues to give Hillary bad press even when she is no longer a candidate. Is everyone at ABC obamatized???????
McCain-Palin ’08
Hillary Clinton 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Cassandra Washington | October 3, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
Some of you on here with your racist rants about Osama Obama blah blah. Hmmm At the same level, Bush/Chenney/McCain. Who’s been responsible for the decline America for the last 7 years? I’ll give you a hint, no terrorist activity within the US since 2001.
Posted by: EvenField | October 3, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
** Obama is an empty suit along with an empty head. **
Hardly an empty head.. he is indeed a very intelligent and gifted individual. Qualities that will be refreshing to have in the oval office after 8 years of a wingnut being there.
Posted by: James Waters | October 3, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
Obama does have foreign relations experience
Ordering out for Chinese is hardly foreign relations experience.
Posted by: Loser | October 3, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
“she’s been thrust into the national spotlight with very little preparation and I think that, all things considered …”
It’s called damning with faint praise.
Posted by: Andy | October 3, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm
Suzy, you are right. Thank you for respond to J. I do not think he realized the relationship between advisors and the President.
Posted by: Lisa Again | October 3, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
J: I know how to spell. And how about you? I wasn’t aware you were in the spelling bee contest with the 8th graders. Now I know who that man was.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | October 3, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
I don’t respect everything about the Clintons but there’s one thing you can’t ignore….Bill is one smart politican. Probably the best alive.
Yep and one of the best liars ever. He could look right into your eyes and tell a blatant falsehood without missing a beat. It’s too bad the rest of Washington can’t do that, at least then we would think we were happy.
Posted by: Kremlin | October 3, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
All this nastiness and PUMA rants from women and Palin/Hillary supporters is really not doing your candidate a favor. Do you really think people are going to vote for a nasty/sarcastic/angry woman and stand by her supporters after it’s taken so long for a woman to get this far? All you do is fire up the opposition even more.
Posted by: McTrolls | October 3, 2008, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm
** Ordering out for Chinese is hardly foreign relations experience. **
He currently sits on the following in the US Senate:
Foreign Relations, Member
Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, Member
Subcommittee on African Affairs, Member
Subcommittee on East Asian and Pacific Affairs, Member
Subcommittee on European Affairs, Chair
Subcommittee on Federal Financial Management, Government Information, Federal Services, and International Security , Member
Subcommittee on International Development and Foreign Assistance, Economic Affairs and International Environmental Protection, Member
And specalized in International Relations in college.
Care to comment on McCains or Palins Foreign Relations experience?
Posted by: James Waters | October 3, 2008, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm
WTF is Hillary doing talking to Ryan Seacrest in the first place? Since when is that blowdried clown a serious journalist?
Posted by: Americans First | October 3, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
J: I know how to spell. And how about you? I wasn’t aware you were in the spelling bee contest with the 8th graders. Now I know who that man was.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | Oct 3, 2008 7:58:09 PM
First of all I am a woman. Secondly I do know how to spell. Somebody in that position needs to know simple stuff. That bs aside. Palin doesn’t have a clue what she is talking about .Prove to me that she does and I might listen.
Posted by: J | October 3, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
Anyone who says that Gov. Sarah Palin did great in the vice presidential debate did not see the same debate that I saw on the evening of November 2, 2008.
I saw an EXPERIENCED executive of government NOT able to string together more than one coherent sentence.
If you were closing on a home mortgage and Sarah Palin was the loan officer, would you be able to understand her?
If Sarah Palin is the best choice Senator McCain had to choose from, I would say that the “Grand Old Party” talent pool is very low.
There is an ol’ saying in Minnesota and that saying is, “If you feel strongly about something and if you can not explain it in coherent sentences then you are just tap dancing.”
I was hoping that the camera would pan so that we could see those red tap dance shoes.
Let’s get real. The experienced, executive Sarah Palin can not explain one republican platform to a serious listening audience.
I can not believe that she is the best that the GOP has to offer.
Do you really beleive that she is helping the GOP ticket or do you just want to believe because McCain chose her?
The experienced Sarah Palin can not compose a single coherent thought. You saw it for yourself last evening.
Drill Baby Drill, is that a mating call?
Posted by: Kenneth W. of Minneapolis | October 3, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
J: I know how to spell. And how about you? I wasn’t aware you were in the spelling bee contest with the 8th graders. Now I know who that man was.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | Oct 3, 2008 7:58:09 PM
First of all I am a woman. Secondly I do know how to spell. Somebody in that position needs to know simple stuff. That bs aside. Palin doesn’t have a clue what she is talking about .Prove to me that she does and I might listen.
Posted by: J | October 3, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
The Clintons love the Clintons.Period.Now it is time for change, and I despise the repugnicans who hassles the Clintons to death when they are in the White house and put them through years of letigations and ordeals-now they love the Clnitons only to defeat Obama.What hypocracy! Not this time.Go Obama 08
Posted by: Jack | October 3, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
I do not get it. Palin is not a breath of fresh air, she is a bimbo and last night she should have been wearing a shinny ruffled dress, for heaven’s sake she thought she was in a pageant and not in a VP debate. The ONLY time a woman applying for a job should feel oh so free to blow kisses and wink at an audience is when she’s picking up a dude on the street, FOR CASH. This woman is the biggest embarrassment to womanhood I have seen in my 31 years…. and you don’t say NU-CU-LAR, the word is NUCLEAR, stupid, stupid, stupid woman you are Palin!!! and all of you “Joes” who think this woman should be anywhere near an office that takes care of citizen’s lives must be well into your second, or third six pack already….
Posted by: neverIdiotPalin | October 3, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
Some of you clearly did not read the article…..Hillary said Biden was flawless……….
Posted by: lanawonders | October 3, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
James Waters: You have to be kidding. I thought he left his brains in Harvard. Get a grip. For a suppose to be intelligent person he missed the boat. He was so educated he got himself involved with crooks later after college. And if he is a true american why did he attend a racist anti-american white hating church for twenty years. I can tell you why. Are you aware of the fact that as a young boy Obama disliked his mother’s race? That’s when he started to become a racist. I read his BIO in the NYT. Get yourself a copy and read.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | October 3, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
** Drill Baby Drill, is that a mating call? **
That is TOO funny! I got to remember that one.. thanks Ken! (and you are absolutely correct about your observation.. except for the date :)
Posted by: James Waters | October 3, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
Bill is a flawed individual and Hillary is not the warmest personality around – but their service to America and how his Administration benefited our country (and how we would have been better off with her Administration this January) takes priority over what kind of people they might be (or what others accuse them of being)…..at least some people care enough about our children, our troops and America to realize that Bill Clinton was a good President, and Hillary Clinton would’ve been a great President that we so desperately need right now (and still might be in 4 years)
Posted by: chris | October 3, 2008, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm
There is an ol’ saying in Minnesota and that saying is, “If you feel strongly about something and if you can not explain it in coherent sentences then you are just tap dancing.”
Then again you elected Jesse Ventura and maybe Al Franken. Two real history makers.
Posted by: Loser | October 3, 2008, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm
** James Waters: You have to be kidding **
Nope, and you really need to get off your logical fallacies and look at the issues. Frankly, they are getting a bit boring and torn around the edges. Why is it that not a single McCain supporter can actually defend their candidates stance on the issues and instead resort to attacks and Roveian practices? Perhaps because they can’t defend them?
Posted by: James Waters | October 3, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
Are you aware of the fact that as a young boy Obama disliked his mother’s race? That’s when he started to become a racist. I read his BIO in the NYT. Get yourself a copy and read.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | Oct 3, 2008 8:06:18 PM
Let me ask you something. Do you know anything about biracial children? They do struggle as to which race they belong to. I don’t fault him for that because I have not walked in his shoes. I do have a biracial niece and we are teaching her to embrace both sides.
Posted by: J | October 3, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
Palin is dumb as a fence post and couldn’t answer a straight question. Hillary thinks that is effective? Now I get an idea of why her campaign tanked.
Posted by: mainecoonrudy | October 3, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
The Clintons love the Clintons.Period.Now it is time for change, and I despise the repugnicans who hassles the Clintons to death when they are in the White house and put them through years of letigations and ordeals-now they love the Clnitons only to defeat Obama.What hypocracy! Not this time.Go Obama 08
Yep, couldn’t have possibly been anything the Clintons did. They were and are squeaky clean.
Posted by: Josef S | October 3, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
“WTF is Hillary doing talking to Ryan Seacrest in the first place? Since when is that blowdried clown a serious journalist?”
since the same country that has American Idol as its top-rated show chose pretty fluff (obama) over prepared experience (Clinton)
Posted by: chris | October 3, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
neverIdiotPalin ;; You say this :::This woman is the biggest embarrassment to womanhood I have seen in my 31 years.
a mother of 5 that is a governor of one of our states and she is an embarrassment to women?…..what kind of woman are you?…a mud wrestler?
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
Mariann Pepitone wrote: “And if he is a true american why did he attend a racist anti-american white hating church for twenty years.”
Right-Wing talking point.
Ms. Pepitone, what are you afraid of?
Ms. Pepitone, you should ask your 2 senators do they think that Senator Obama is a racist?
Do you have any other thought provoking opinions that you can offer us?
Posted by: Kenneth W. of Minneapolis | October 3, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
sarah palin like to refer to herself as the hockey mom…well we don’t need a hockey mom running for vp of the united states maybe she will be better fitted for the vp for her children PTA. and a marvick in needed in the wild west not as the top elected politician of the unites states. so please stop referring the ma’cain and palin as a marvick. we need some one that understand the people not folk heroes
Posted by: bigrus | October 3, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
Palin is dumb as a fence post and couldn’t answer a straight question. Hillary thinks that is effective? Now I get an idea of why her campaign tanked.
Posted by: mainecoonrudy | Oct 3, 2008 8:10:20 PM
Did you read the article? She was basically saying she did ok for her first debate. Nothing more, nothing less. The bar was set so low anything other than burping or farting would have been a good showing.
Posted by: J | October 3, 2008, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
I’m confused. The headline for this article claims that Hillary called Palin’s performance “flawless.” Yet the body of the article mentions that she was referring to Biden. It really doesn’t matter, just wondering why the misleading headline?
Posted by: Carolina | October 3, 2008, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
Imagine
Mrs. Joe Six Pack…
the President is in a plane somewhere
and she is told she needs to ask the President permission to shoot down a plane with a suspected terrorist on it…and a bomb somewhere on it that couldn’t be found / was not confirmed…
and it is a domestic carrier..?
if it was Israeli?
if it was Russian?
now imagine her if it was British?
that’s right Mrs Joe Six pack …mrs… picks the questions she has been prepped for
Mrs..throw insults and then dive behind her gender and smile?
imagine her making decisions to shoot down commercial planes with 100′s maybe thousands of civilians…Americans on them
imagine her if she was sitting near “the button”…and Russia invaded Poland ? Takikistan?
or India sent a nuclear missile into Kashmir?
People enough is enough
this woman is not equipped to be president.
she makes Huckabee look scientific and diplomatically aware.
this is crazy and the same team that threw us under the bus for their own power is now trying to do it again.
Posted by: dl | Oct 3, 2008 4:40:01 PM
Hey dl, its a good thing you bring this up since every potus since the invention of the airplane has been through this exact same scenario. ohhhh wait a minute, that only happens in the movies. sorry.
Posted by: out-here in texas | October 3, 2008, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm
** Yep, couldn’t have possibly been anything the Clintons did. They were and are squeaky clean. **
Well, after many years and several million dollars of tax payer money trying to find anything on Bill that they could.. look what they came up with. Are you glad at how your tax money was spent on that one?
Posted by: James Waters | October 3, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
only an anti-American believes the Clinton Administration was a detriment to America, and only one who wants the best for our children, our troops and America now realize that another Clinton Administration was our best option
Posted by: chris | October 3, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
neverIdiotPalin ;; You say this :::This woman is the biggest embarrassment to womanhood I have seen in my 31 years.
Hmmm, I think maybe Rosie might be the biggest embarrassment in 31 years. Then again it could be Jane Fonda too. That’s a tough race to call. There are so many.
Posted by: Gwen | October 3, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
Palin might style herself as a pit bull, but Biden was holding the leash last night. Biden controlled it. All Palin had were creepy winks and rambling incoherence.
Posted by: Mark Tabbs | October 3, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
keep sending your money to the palin-mccain ticket! let them USE Palin to empty your bank account so THEY can live in luxury. you notice that the mccain camp doesn’t even want her to talk to the media anymore now that the debate is done. that should be your first clue. c’mon people.
Posted by: McTrolls | October 3, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
Thanks Hillary. Good job!
You know how it feels when those MSM,Obama backers attacked you when you were running.
Posted by: catleya | October 3, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
Well that says it all really. Hillary is giving her supporters the okay to move over to McCain/Palin. And I think I will. Thanks a bunch Hillary.
Posted by: jill | October 3, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
“Lordhelp…a mother of 5 that is a governor of one of our states and she is an embarrassment to women?…..what kind of woman are you?…a mud wrestler?”
A mud wrestler may treat her kids better. Did you see where your heroine’s 6 month old child was yesterday? yeah, helping his dear mommy with the the photo op for about 2 seconds, and then off he went on to he arms of another one of the children she’s popped out but obviously is not taking care of. This woman only cares about herself, she wants to be president, did you know that? now, do you know who takes care of her children while she’s pursuing her “dreams”? yeah, her older children. And then you wonder why that girl got pregnant. The answer is easy: ’cause she doesn’t have a mother. Got it, Joe?
Posted by: neverIdiotPalin | October 3, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
“Lordhelp…a mother of 5 that is a governor of one of our states and she is an embarrassment to women?…..what kind of woman are you?…a mud wrestler?”
A mud wrestler may treat her kids better. Did you see where your heroine’s 6 month old child was yesterday? yeah, helping his dear mommy with the the photo op for about 2 seconds, and then off he went on to he arms of another one of the children she’s popped out but obviously is not taking care of. This woman only cares about herself, she wants to be president, did you know that? now, do you know who takes care of her children while she’s pursuing her “dreams”? yeah, her older children. And then you wonder why that girl got pregnant. The answer is easy: ’cause she doesn’t have a mother. Got it, Joe?
Posted by: neverIdiotPalin | October 3, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
Loser wrote:
“Then again you elected Jesse Ventura and maybe Al Franken. Two real history makers.”
_______________________________________
YOu are correct about Ventura, Franken remains to be seen.
I can speak from experience. All that “joe-six-pack” talk is just talk.
America, don’t make the same mistake that Minnesota made by electing someone who talks like “joe-six-pack.”
Posted by: Kenneth W. of Minneapolis | October 3, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
fougasseu: Hillary wouldn’t take Palin for a walk in Harlem because Hillary and Palin are white and they would stand out in the crowd. And who wants to stand out in the crowd.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | October 3, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
Well that says it all really. Hillary is giving her supporters the okay to move over to McCain/Palin. And I think I will. Thanks a bunch Hillary.
Posted by: jill | Oct 3, 2008 8:17:30 PM
Where did she say that? Enlighten us all.
Posted by: J | October 3, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
** Yep, couldn’t have possibly been anything the Clintons did. They were and are squeaky clean. **
Well, after many years and several million dollars of tax payer money trying to find anything on Bill that they could.. look what they came up with. Are you glad at how your tax money was spent on that one?
I’m not happy with giving tax money to the government at all.
Posted by: Josef S | October 3, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
fougasseu: Hillary wouldn’t take Palin for a walk in Harlem because Hillary and Palin are white and they would stand out in the crowd. And who wants to stand out in the crowd.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | Oct 3, 2008 8:19:26 PM
Bill Clinton is white and has an office in Harlem. What’s your point. I am sure Hillary has been in Harlem.
Posted by: J | October 3, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
ABC needs to change this headline immediately. This is nothing more than a desperate attempt to change the narrative.
And you Hillarybots have gone beyond ridiculous to just pathetic. She lost fair and square, people. Deal with it.
Posted by: Oregon Voter | October 3, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
ABC needs to change this headline immediately. This is nothing more than a desperate attempt to change the narrative.
And you Hillarybots have gone beyond ridiculous to just pathetic. She lost fair and square, people. Deal with it.
Posted by: Oregon Voter | Oct 3, 2008 8:21:27 PM
I was a staunch Hillary supporter. Don’t lump us all into that group of idiots who would vote McCain.
Posted by: J | October 3, 2008, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm
Kenneth W. of Minneapolis
I sure hope you guys don’t elect Franken, that guy is waaay out there and has said some incredibly stupid things. Even when he was on SNL I never found him particularly funny.
Posted by: Loser | October 3, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
LordHelpLiberals,
if Palin is the woman you want to represent women in general, a woman whose own campaign doesn’t want her to speak, can’t answer voter questions without complaining, a sex symbol among men (even a porno being made after her), running for the 2nd highest position in the country…if that’s how you want women to be represented, then fine. I just think there are more qualified women.
Posted by: McTrolls | October 3, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
Mariann Pepitone loves McCains wrinkled white weiner.
Posted by: Pepitone's My HOOOO | October 3, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
It seems as though folks seem to forget that she said Biden was “flawless”.
Flawless:
Performance perfect, unblemished, unmarked, unimpaired; whole, intact, sound, unbroken, undamaged, mint, pristine; impeccable, immaculate, consummate, accurate, correct, faultless, error-free, unerring; exemplary, model, ideal.
Great job Joe!!
You were flawless as Hillary states!
Posted by: think-long-term | October 3, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
Loser
Right Norm Coleman has about a 8 or 9 point lead over Franken. But, we still have a good 3 1/2 weeks to close the gap.
Posted by: Kenneth W. of Minneapolis | October 3, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
Whenever I read these reactions to current news events I’m amazed at how mean and crazy a lot of the comments are. Does all this represent a true cross section of our nation (if so we’re screwed) or are the nuts more likely to post semi-literate, thoughtless attacks on anyone in any way not just like them.
And of course LOTS OF CAPS AND PUNCTUATION MAKE IT LOTS MORE CONVINCING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: wondering if we're doomed | October 3, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
McCain teabags Mariann Peptone on the regular doggone it.
Posted by: trig palin | October 3, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
Chris: You are right about Obama. All he wants is to make history like MLK and have control in this country. If you notice many times while speaking he sounds like a dictator and that will happen if he is elected. And the fools that voted for him will be kicking themselves. I am willing to bet that when he’s on the platform he saying to himself, I have these suckers eating out of my hand.
Does Obama love this country? No.
Does he like the flag pin? No.
Does he care about the people? No.
Does he care about himself? Yes.
Does he want to make history? Yes.
Does he like the Clintons? No.
That’s my opinion of Obama and that’s putting it mild.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | October 3, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm
wondering if we’re doomed
I think you pretty much nailed it.
Posted by: Loser | October 3, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm
Palin did a great job, but what did she do a great job at? During a debate, each debater has a pre written list of points they want to make. No matter what the questions are, Obama is going to try and make McCain look like more of the same and McCain is going to make Obama seem inexperienced. The trick is to do that and still answer the questions you’re given, no matter how indirectly. Palin did a great job with the talking points the McCain brain trust gave her, but I can’t think of a single question she answered. Yes she was folksy and yes she appealed to “joe six pack” but all and all I would have rather heard real answers to the questions, and not a thinly veiled stump speech.
Posted by: John | October 3, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
Mariann.. you obviously are unable to defend your own candidate on the issues.. but I would like you to at least go to the library of congress and see just what legislation each has introduced, which is a good indication of what they believe in:
http://thomas.loc.gov/
In the meantime.. we will wait patiently until you have anything really meaningful to say.
Posted by: James Waters | October 3, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm
Pepitone’s my Hoooo: Are you talking about your mother again. You must have forgot her name.
Posted by: mariannpepitone@hotmail.com | October 3, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm
Good golly Mariann you hit the nail on the head. We can’t have a negro President. Us white folks just can’t stand those uppity Negros with their fancy degrees trying to suck up all the white man’s air!! How dare they!
Posted by: trig palin | October 3, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm
Amen McTrolls!
Palin is exactly the type of woman that makes the rest of us competent, smart women seem shallow. She uses sex appeal to win people over(thus my reference above to the winking and kiss-blowing as compared to selling yourself on the street). Not a single one of my female friends are voting for the Repubs, because all my female friends have BRAINS. McCain/Palin would lead us farther into the abyss we already are in courtesy of GWB. Obama/Biden, the only choice, the clear choice.
Posted by: neverIdiotPalin | October 3, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
Unlike Hillary and Bill, the rest of us don’t have to continue to support the democratic party which has gone way too far to the left.
Posted by: Susan | October 3, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
Does McCain love this country? No, he loves himself. Don’t start on the POW.
Does he wear a flag pin at the debate? No.
Does he care about the people? Lobbyist and Big Oil.
Does he care about himself? Yes.
Does he want to make history? Yes, by thinking women are stupid.
Does he like the Clintons? If it gets her voters.
That’s my opinion of McCain and that’s putting it mild.
Posted by: McTrolls | October 3, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
Who has changed the most since January 2008? McCain
Who had made more outrageous political moves since August 2008? McCain
Who changed his position on the ecomomy in less than a week’s time? McCain
Who tried to change the face of the GOP in the last 6 weeks? McCain
Is this the kind of Change we, Americans, want?
I say NO!
How about you?
Posted by: Kenneth W. of Minneapolis | October 3, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm
The debate that I heard:
Moderator: Same question to you Governor Palin.
Palin:
Well golly gee guys and gals, its time to get outta the fryin pan and into the fire. Why with me and my fellow Joe Six Packs lining up behind The Maverick (wink wink) we will rule..I mean we will change the world. My good buddy good pal John, who I just met 4 weeks ago and is now my bff, is gonna take his 26 years of experience with leading himself on behalf of mostly himself and from now on and hence forth will fight everybody and their dogs, but not those cute pitbulls that have lipstick on (giggle…wink wink), shout out to the hockey moms woof woof…(giggle giggle) remember that movie with Julia Roberts, I love that movie…(giggle giggle snort). Anyways, Johnny will be on the spot and ready to deal with all this ..stink and I for one am proud that I will get the honor to be right in there helping him scoop out the .. and let me tell you there is a lot of it and John The Maverick knows because he’s been there for 26 years, (giddy movement giggle giggle). After we rev up the surges and defeat the tallybannie we’ll go build a new embassy in Jerslusium or whatever..you all know what I mean… that one place. Hey maybe we can build a new white house right here in America but I think it should be in Alaska so we can always have our eyes on Russia and be watchin out for those folks cause they are right there and could row row row their boats right over at any ol time. Sometimes when I pray God shows me images of myself leading the world’s fight against witches…or evil and I know that …Oh I just gotta get back to taxes here because in band camp er I mean Alaska me and my homies (wink wink giggle giggle)..See America I can relate and speak directly to you and use the lingo that is down with the down low. So in Alaska as Governer I cleaned up the politikin as usual and everybody loves me and I love everybody there and did you know I have 5 children. I don’t love Democrats because they are evil. John McCain is such a maverick and he will fight the Democrats, I mean the tallybannie forces all the way to Spain but he isn’t going to sit down with nobody because he knows that Bush’s policies were dead right even if Bush now realizes they weren’t. John’s the maverick and he knows and I’m a maverickette! (giggle giggle…wink) I’m one of you guys and gals and when I get to be the VP Cheney told me that I can have more power than even the President if I want to and I can even pull the strings that make his mouth move and vice versa and so I’m positive that we will be working together although Johnny wants me to focus on oil in Alaska which will require me to stay in Alaska most of the time and he wants me to focus on birds and bees stuff and I’m happy to do that but if the Republicans need me to I can be John the Maverick’s wing man and we can “Weekend at Bernie’s” things up there in Washington and over there in those foreign countries who have evil leaders who don’t like us and our allies will just have to get on board with us or we will just have to make them see things our way because we are Mavericks. But I won’t look back like “Say it isn’t so” Joe over there. By the way 26 years ago, John McCain the Maverick…who is a Maverick…I’m a Maverick…we are all Mavericks except that Obama dude. But then in 2005 The Maverick once again tried to get something done about the ol Fran and Fred but his idea never got off the ground and he didn’t push the issue because nobody listens to him, least of all the Republicans. He is the maverick and he can pull his party together and he dropped everything to do it because in 2005 he proposed some stuff and reached across lines. He knew in order to get the bailout done and done right he needed to go to Washington and sit in the room and use his dead silence while in that room to unite everyone and he used his mind powers to relay his ideas and it didn’t work but that is because of the Democrats anyways so here were are again. But let me talk about Alaska again and my ability to straight talk proves I have no idea what it is all these guys who have been in Washington are even talking about but I’m doing it with a straight face (wink wink) and I can talk like I think the restuv my fellow Joe Six Packs talk so ya’ll understand me and I promise to never use big words or go off topic and the Maverick has a plan for the American people now that he has had 26 years to plan it. We will not look back and we will change the future from now on and to prove that he can and is the one to do it, when The Maverick John wins in November, he will ask God to cocoon him until January when he is sworn in and when he appears out of his cocoon it will be a bright light of sunshine and ya’ll will really want to be there and see it. I’ll be there with my dad, mom, family and my daughter and her baby daddy and my husband is going to tailgate, it’ll be awesome and the American people will just get a kick out of it. Then everybody will see the Maverick like in the movie Top Gun and that’s a shout out to you soccer mom’s out there, you betcha it is! (Giggle, wink) Finally as VP I will do whatever the grasshopper wants me to do and I will say what he wants me to say and it doesn’t matter if I look like I don’t know what I’m talking about normally in my media interviews because I will never again have to answer questions that I am not given at least one week to study up on first so that’s a big “in your face” to the mean and evil media. (wink…sneer…wink). So I may not say what you think I might want me to say and I might not answer any question but that is exactly what everybody in America wants and by goodness golly gee that is what The Maverick and I are gonna give them come Nov.
Moderator: Senator Biden do you have a response?
Biden: Governor Palin, W T F kind of answer was that?
Palin: Oh now Joe (giggle giggle wink)
Posted by: Subject to Interpretation | October 3, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm
Mariann is really a 40 year old white male transvestite for McCain. Loosen up the garter belt darn it.
Posted by: trig palin | October 3, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
And you Hillarybots have gone beyond ridiculous to just pathetic.
Posted by Oregon Voter
Yeah,,, we are pathetic enough to vote for McCain.
Don’t cry baby!
Obama won’t get our votes..
Posted by: catleya | October 3, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
J: Bill Clinton can have all the office’s he wants in Harlem. My point is there are just too many blacks in Harlem and I don’t mind if I live in the same building with them providing we outnumber them.
Posted by: mariannpepitone@hotmail.com | October 3, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
*****************
…….”I was a staunch Hillary supporter. Don’t lump us all into that group of idiots who would vote McCain.
Posted by: J | Oct 3, 2008 8:24:34 PM”…..*********
I agree J, most of the extremely inflammatory comments are acts of desparation by republican posers……..or trolls or whatever you want to label them…
Posted by: think-long-term | October 3, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
J: Bill Clinton can have all the office’s he wants in Harlem. My point is there are just too many blacks in Harlem and I don’t mind if I live in the same building with them providing we outnumber them.
Posted by: mariannpepitone@hotmail.com | Oct 3, 2008 8:40:45 PM
OMG…..how racist can you be.
Posted by: J | October 3, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
Subject to Interpretation
________________________
You have proven yet another point.
Sarah Palin is fodder for Saturday Night Live comedy.
Nothing more and nothing less. Punch lines for water cool jokes.
Posted by: Kenneth W. of Minneapolis | October 3, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
Palin looks like she had something in her eye with that wink-wink bs.
Posted by: J | October 3, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
In regards to the debate, I did find it went well for both of them, Palin really needed this in her favor. My only problem is, if that had been another man would Biden have been as pleasent as he was last night. I just thought he was warned not to give her a hard time, that is not the way this should be. Now I am a woman and I have been in the work force, I have yelled at men, and they have yelled at me. Nothing sexest about that, it comes with the job. I also thought she was well coached. But again I am waiting to see how see does on other interviews, the last one I saw her on, McCain was sitting along side of her. And from what she said in the debate she wants to actually work. Now does anyone really think that if McCain wins he’s going to let her have any say in how he wants to run things. GIVE ME A BREAK…. I just think he is using her to get the female vote. Well sir, not this woman. Your going to have to have a better showing then that.
Posted by: Linda | October 3, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
Mariann Pepitone nobody wants to live around you because you are a pedophile.
Posted by: trig palin | October 3, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
Subject to Interpretation ..if you send your message out in 4 parts, someone may read it..Geez, you put me to sleep 1/2 way into it…i know it was C R A P . but my 5 year old thinks you liberals are idiots, so i like to tell him what you comment on.
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
J: Bill Clinton can have all the office’s he wants in Harlem. My point is there are just too many blacks in Harlem and I don’t mind if I live in the same building with them providing we outnumber them.
Posted by: mariannpepitone@hotmail.com | Oct 3, 2008 8:40:45 PM
————–
To quote from South Park, “If you don’t like it you can geeeeeeeet out!”
Posted by: Mmkay | October 3, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
hmmmm,,,I saw young McCain was quite handsome though. Of course you can’t tell it now.
wait until you people also getting old, look at yourselves.
Maybe you even uglier than McCain!
Posted by: catleya | October 3, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
I had to laugh at Campbell Brown tonight on CNN. They were playing a clip of Palin and Campbell basically said that the answer she gave was useless….lol. Instead of answering the question went back to Energy Independence.
Posted by: J | October 3, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
Hillary- you are a class act!!! I wish you were debating MC Cain- you could take him and her!!! Hillary – we want you!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: angela | October 3, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
Hillary- you are a class act!!! I wish you were debating MC Cain- you could take him and her!!! Hillary – we want you!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: angela | October 3, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
neverIdiotPalin…i will pray for you and your he/she female friends
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Posted by: Virginia Harris | October 3, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
bakersfield: I have been saying the same as you. Obama is in this race to make history. His mother gave him books on MLK to read when he was young and he got obsessed with the idea of running for president. I am aware of the fact that as a young boy Obama disliked his mother’s race and grew up to be a racist that’s why he joined that church. He was also anti-american that’s why he didn’t wear the flag pin but got critized on that. He is using this country for his own benefit and I cannot understand the people in this country that many are so educated they can’t see the light. Most of the speeches he made in the beginning were from the book of RFK and that’s were he got the words hope and change. He might have been at the head of his class but why did he come out being an ass.
Posted by: mariannpepitone@hotmail.com | October 3, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
I’m a McCain supporter, but I would really feel better about this whole election if it were between McCain and Hillary. If Hillary won over McCain we would still be okay.
I gained respect for her after she won all the key states in the primary, she held up with grace and dignity, while the world watched as Obama basically stole the candidacy from her.
She was the clear winner in all the debates, was much more knowledgeable in foreign, economic and domestic policies while Obama just agreed with her.
Posted by: Kay | October 3, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
Hillary is lowering everything and I’d have supported her but if she wants play word games about Palin and suggest she’s doing ok….forget Clinton. I voted for her but if she would allow that to happen to the United States she is a traitor. Palin is reality tv show joke: winking, strutting, smug, stupid, so arrogant she cannot see her own idiocy….I work hard and I work with dignity: Palin is a joker and the Clintons are playing semantic games…..I voted for Hillary but I expect more from her now…..Bill: “I did not sleep with that woman…” Hillary: “She doing ok…new to the scene….” Hillary is parsing her works just like BILL….they had good things for this country but not this way….
Palin is horrible and McCain is stupid do throw his away his dignity just for this game….
We are a broke nation: they need to wake up….people are truly suffering and they are playing games….
Posted by: Michael Bell | October 3, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
Posted by: mariannpepitone@hotmail.com | Oct 3, 2008 8:50:50 PM
How dumb can you be to post your email on here….lol. Secondly you are nothing but a racist B—-. Shut up with your racist rants!
Posted by: J | October 3, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm
*** I cannot understand the people in this country that many are so educated they can’t see the light. ***
They can, that is why those with higher education are overwhelmingly voting Obama. They have the ability to ignore the BS like you have been spouting and look at the issues and where each candidate will take this country. Thank you for pointing that out.
Posted by: James Waters | October 3, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
I had to laugh at Campbell Brown tonight on CNN. They were playing a clip of Palin and Campbell basically said that the answer she gave was useless.
hey J…why is it that you think that just because someone is on TV, they are experts on anything?..kinda makes you look like a little child that believes everything they hear or read..makes
you look like an idiot, eh?,,,i would
craw up in a hole if i let Campbell Bown sway me..geez, get a life of your own…you can do it. Whoopie Goldberg an idol of yours too?
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm
catleya: I agree with you about McCain’s age factor. But I always say when their talking about McCain they are talking about their own mother and father who could be older than McCain or younger and may not live to be 72. Tim Rustert died in the Meet The Press Room at age 58. I just seen Diddy who made an AD about Palin. The only thing I can see on the AD is his big white teeth. Other than that he must have made it in the dark.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | October 3, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
Today’s media objectivity regarding Sarah Palin is really weird…unnerving even. It’s like when the eye of a hurricane passes over you and the storm surge hangs for just a bit. Then it comes again and breaks the flood wall to the City. Unnerving…
Posted by: A Difference | October 3, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
hey J…why is it that you think that just because someone is on TV, they are experts on anything?..kinda makes you look like a little child that believes everything they hear or read..makes
you look like an idiot, eh?,,,i would
craw up in a hole if i let Campbell Bown sway me..geez, get a life of your own…you can do it. Whoopie Goldberg an idol of yours too?
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | Oct 3, 2008 8:56:08 PM
It doesn’t sway me, I know who I am voting for. IF you saw the clip they asked her about the bailout. She blew the question off and went back to energy independence. I found Campbell’s take on it amusing. Palin looked like an idiot in the clip like she didn’t understand the question.
Posted by: J | October 3, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
you liberals should not pick up magazines in the checkout lines..geez, you don’t have a clue as it is. A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
Hillary cannot be elected president … there are far too many variables and politics are far too tenuous and fickle, someone else will be in the spotlight in 2012 if McCain wins … and it won’t be Hillary — it will be another Democrat, the public does not give second chances to failed presidential candidates — and if McCain wins in 2012, he automatically wins in 2016 … you cannot beat an incumbent president, it is very rare -that’s the reality
Posted by: Nate | October 3, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
Posted by: J….i think you are an idiot for calling her one…have you ever in your widest dreams imagined that your liberals might have a chance to win an election if you try to sell your candidate instead of bashing others?…try it, see if it works..you have nothing to lose. You cannot sell me on Biden by bashing Palin..only makes you look like a 4 yr. old
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
you liberals should not pick up magazines in the checkout lines..geez, you don’t have a clue as it is. A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | Oct 3, 2008 8:59:52 PM
Like you do….lol. You Republicans keep spouting off untrue bs at every turn. I guess you have to do that when there is no substance to your candidate or his VP. I guess you think Cowboy Bush did a good job the last 8 years too.
Posted by: J | October 3, 2008, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm
Anyone who says that Gov. Sarah Palin did great in the vice presidential debate did not see the same debate that I saw on the evening of November 2, 2008.
No Kenneth W from Minneapolis I didn’t see that one. Are you saying that, not only can your Meesiah part the red sea, but he can now time travel?
The debate I saw on October 2, 2008, was great! Palin was very easy to understand because she spoke to the American people, Biden been lyin the blowhard thought he was speaking to his Cronies in Congress. He was so boring I was falling asleep when he spoke. Blah Blah Blah, lie, Blah Blah lie.
Posted by: S Adams | October 3, 2008, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm
you think she is an idiot for not answering a question..i think she is a genius for not answering a question if she does not know the answer…i guess she could just makeup a answer and look like Obama-yo-mama
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
LordHelpLiberals: I am glad you said that. I just got thru with a comment to J. Campbell Brown got called on for trying to cut into one of Palin’s advisor’s statement. She has a big mouth and a small head. And if she is so smart why wasn’t she chosen for the VP? After all she talks to all the candidates. The only thing is she thinks she knows it all and knows nothing.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | October 3, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
you liberals should not pick up magazines in the checkout lines..geez, you don’t have a clue as it is. A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | Oct 3, 2008 8:59:52 PM
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standard Palin answer
Posted by: McTrolls | October 3, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
J…all things considered, Bush did ok…i’m still alive and my kids have food on the table..no different for me when Clinton was Pres..we ate then also,.
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm
Sarah Palin looked and acted like Bush in drag.
Posted by: M | October 3, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm
The first class lady Senator! The Caucusses voting fraud hurt you so bad during the primary. Please be more careful next time around.
Posted by: mtr2311 | October 3, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
Posted by: McTrolls ..ever think to use facts instead of gossip?…put down you gossip magazines and use you own thoughts ..what you see and hear..try it…if you need help, i can call my 5 year old over
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
“I may be a Republican troll – but at least I am not stupid enough to vote for Osama Obama – who hangs out with Terrorists.”
your ignorance makes me want to vomit. i am literally ashamed to be from the same country as you. and anyone else who actually supports beauty and the deceased. you are an embarrassment to humanity and to the democratic process.
Posted by: bridget | October 3, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | Oct 3, 2008 9:05:34 PM
I don’t have to bash Palin, she shows how inept she is on most manners that we care about.
If she had any clue she would have been able to answer the question not tap dance around it.
I am done with you republican trolls for the night. I must go to work. Keep spreading your lies etc.
Obama is gonna clean up in a few short weeks. Then we will be rid of the filth we have had for the last 8 years.
Posted by: J | October 3, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm
** you liberals should not pick up magazines in the checkout lines. **
Most don’t fortunately.. most look at the issues.
McCain tax plan: Huge breaks for the wealthy, pretty much zip for the low and middle class
Obamas tax plan: the less you make, the more of a cut you get. Only people with taxes getting raised is the wealthy.
McCain health plan: Tax employer provided health care for the first time in history, resulting in more people dropping health insurance.
Obama health plan: More Americans will receive health care, and businesses will receive tax credits totaling an estimated $140 billion a year.
Enron loophole: McCain says that “congress is investigating it”. Obama wants it closed immediately, causing an immediate drop in gas prices at the pump. (PS: Democrats passed 2 bills this year to do just that, and Dubba vetoed both of them).
McCain and energy: Drill more and build nuclear plants. Both long term (7-10 years before we see any results).
Obama and energy: faster shift to alternative energy, better utilization of existing resources.
Foreign Policy: McCain echos Bush on foreign policy, which has been a disaster. Obama favors diplomacy and dialog over military action. Much better chance of fixing most of the damage done over the last 8 years.
Sources: Both candidates web sites. Library of congress, congressional vote database, tax policy center, economic policy institute, congressional budget office, etc..
If you want to know who Paris is doing this week, pick up a magazine at the checkout. If you want to make an informed decision, go to the source.
Posted by: James Waters | October 3, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
LordHelpLiberals – why do you brag about molesting 5 year olds? You wingnut child molesters are sick!
Posted by: truth telling man | October 3, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
S. Adams: The polls state that 55% now believe is ready to be VP. That’s the good news for McCain. I understand there sever thousand people when her plane landed for the debate. She is going on the campaign trail now and I think this debate may have changed the minds of the people. There is another close friend whose name I forgot that is being investigated. And it looks like Rezko is standing alone although obama is involved in this deals. I don’t know why they don’t serve him.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | October 3, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
Mariann Pepitone …mostly of the women covering the news are mad as H E L L at PALIN FOR ONE REASON ONLY..jealousy..no other reason…Katie Couric, Barbara Walters, Campbell Brown, and the liberals spokesperson” Whoopi Goldberg” and on and on…nothing but jealous
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
Is anyone out there wondering if they were watching the same Palin that the media is talking about? I thought she was awful. She looked and sounded like she had been programmed by a computer and was programmed to look straight, smile and just keep on talking. If Biden opened his mouth to her for any comment or to put her in her place, the media would have murdered him.
It is such a joke. The media walks the middle line not wanting to offend anyone that “might” be in office. Every since the bush got in the media has turned into a bunch of scared children. Bush said if you write one thing I don’t like your news won’t get one single thing. What happen to the ethics of the press???????
It’s all a scam.
Palin looked awful and sounde like some woman they pulled out of her house to program and put on a stage.
I like Palin …. so don’t bother slamming me…..I didn’t make her what she is. I am just truthful.
How could any stable person think that she would be capable of being the president in the highest office in the world?
Posted by: treasurehunterb | October 3, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
Liberals are smarter, better education, better informed and more successful than Conservatives. That’s a fact. Conservatives are derranged white trash losers who live in trailer homes, smoke meth and get all their “news” from FOX.
Posted by: Cons Are Trash | October 3, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
truth telling man ..that one hurt…geez, lord help you child!!!
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
Sarah Palin is a butterfaced clown that nobody takes seriously anymore. She is McCain’s mistake.
Posted by: American Gun Rights | October 3, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
Cons Are Trash ..want to have a 5 minute debate with a conservative?…you can’t win, but it would be fun…two rules..facts only and you can’t answer a question by blaming someone else…
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm
LordHelp – step away from the 5 year old and put your hands over your head. You sick inbred Cons are not fit to raise your own kids. Get your hands out of the 5 year old’s toughskins, pervert!
Posted by: truth telling man | October 3, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm
LordHelp:
According to your reasoning (?) being smart, accomplished, educated, well-traveled AND good looking are mutually exclusive huh? wow, you, obviously, must have none of the above, you must really be a troll!. Neither my friends or I got to where we are using our sex appeal (which we could very well have). That is the kind of woman I respect. That is the kind of woman I would vote to represent me in office.
Posted by: neverIdiotPalin | October 3, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm
“And you Hillarybots have gone beyond ridiculous to just pathetic. She lost fair and square, people. Deal with it.”
Posted by: Oregon Voter | Oct 3, 2008 8:21:27 PM
Hillary Supporters know Hillary did not lose “fair and square” at all, but deciding to vote for McCain/Palin on Election Day has helped us tremendously.
We do feel a lot better now, thanks.
Hope YOU can get OVER that. :D
PUMA!
McCain/Palin 2008 – in lieu of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton
“No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party which ignores her sex.”
- Susan B. Anthony
Posted by: LeeLee07 | October 3, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm
LordHelpLiberals – okay, here’s the topic. Conservatism has failed completely at every level. Why are you still a Conservative. And… GO!
Posted by: Cons Are Trash | October 3, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm
do you honestly think in your warped mind, that Palin became governor of Alaska because of her looks?..seriously,. this answer will either confirm that you are an idiot, or force me to change how i look at you.
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
Posted by: McTrolls ..ever think to use facts instead of gossip?…put down you gossip magazines and use you own thoughts ..what you see and hear..try it…if you need help, i can call my 5 year old over
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | Oct 3, 2008 9:09:34 PM
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I can see the prices on the board at the gas station. I can see the price of food at the grocery store. I hear people worried about retirement and their stocks. I hear people who can’t afford health care. I hope you can afford to send your 5 year old to college one day. Wouldn’t want a child to get left behind.
Posted by: McTrolls | October 3, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
Conservatives are the biggest losers in America. Nobody takes these failed fools seriously anymore. The Reagan Revolution is dead and everything the Cons once believed in has been completely discredited. Liberals have been vindicated and proven right once again.
Posted by: American Gun Rights | October 3, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
LordHelpLiberals – Of course Palin didn’t get anywhere on her looks – she’s ugly as sin! She got where she was by being a backstabbing opportunist who never passed up an opportunity to step on her benefactors in his sick quest for power.
Posted by: Common Sense | October 3, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
I fart in the face of Sarah Palin!
Posted by: Mr. Methane | October 3, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm
I am a Hillary supporter and I know that the Clintons have to do what they need to do to stay in the political arena; however, I personally appreciate that they are not being TOO fake and trying to go all out for Obama. McCain in 08…Hillary in 2012!
Posted by: SM | October 3, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm
IF McCain does not win, this woman has ZERO chance of becoming anything on the National stage. She would be absolutely ripped to shreds by a Hillary Clinton or anyone else on the top of the next ticket. She didn’t answer questions. Period. If anyone thinks she is knowledgeable of the issues, or has any ability to really understand them is ridiculous. She didn’t prove squat! She said she didn’t care how global warming was caused — only that we need to fix it! You can’t approach problems like that. You need critical thinking skills! She is not ready and will not be in four years. She needs to be sent back to Wasilla.
Posted by: Matt | October 3, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm
IF McCain does not win, this woman has ZERO chance of becoming anything on the National stage. She would be absolutely ripped to shreds by a Hillary Clinton or anyone else on the top of the next ticket. She didn’t answer questions. Period. If anyone thinks she is knowledgeable of the issues, or has any ability to really understand them is ridiculous. She didn’t prove squat! She said she didn’t care how global warming was caused — only that we need to fix it! You can’t approach problems like that. You need critical thinking skills! She is not ready and will not be in four years. She needs to be sent back to Wasilla.
Posted by: Matt | October 3, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm
bridget: Right on. I am voting McCain. I wouldn’t vote for ObamaBinLaden myself. There is another close friend of ObamaOsama’s being investigated but I didn’t hear it all. For a Harvard graduate he certainly didn’t make the grade on his own. Every speech on the platform was copied even his convention speech. And he didn’t earn his way thru college his mother’s mother paid his way because he lived with her when his mother died. They were never poor and she was not on welfare. His mother was a college graduate who made the mistake of marrying a man who was abusive, power hungry, a womanizer and a drunk. He got killed in a car accident in 1982. She died of cancer at age 53 which is young. Obama has half brothers and sisters in Kenya, a half sister in Hawaii. His father was married and divorced four times.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | October 3, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm
Bridget wrote:
“”I may be a Republican troll – but at least I am not stupid enough to vote for Osama Obama – who hangs out with Terrorists.”
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Who are the terrorist that Senator Obama hangs out with?
Posted by: Kenneth W. of Minneapolis | October 3, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
LordHelpLiberals – okay, here’s the topic. Conservatism has failed completely at every level. Why are you still a Conservative. And… GO!
Posted by: Cons Are Trash
you are wrong about failure of Conservatism…you said “completely at every level”..that is where you screwed up…not a fact, so strike one against you..it has failed at times, but Ronald Reagan stopped the cold war using it…that was no failure…next.
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
“No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party which ignores her sex.”
- Susan B. Anthony
Posted by: LeeLee07 | Oct 3, 2008 9:17:15 PM
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That’s why the McCain camp doesn’t want Palin to speak. Too dangerous. She needs more training if she expects to be as good as a man, and make as much money as a man….at least according to McCain, who voted against equal pay for women in 2008.
Posted by: McTrolls | October 3, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
American Gun Rights – Great Post! It’s true – Conservatives are against all change by definition, and life is about change. I’m pushing 60 and when I look back over the course of my life there is not one single issue that Conservatives have ever been right about – in almost every instance, from segregation and civil rights to gay rights to women’s rights to dergulation and supply side economics to Saddam’s WMDs, conservatives have been completely wrong about everything.
Posted by: kim devitt | October 3, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
Common Sense …every heard of
factually comments”…nah. your comments prove it.
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
common Sense Exactly: According to LordHelp, women in the media are “jealous” of Palin… HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA are you kidding me? any woman in the media is more informed and capable to run for VP than Palin is that’s why they are all pissed!! did you see the SNL skit when Katie Couric tells Palin that she seems to get increasingly “adorable” when she doesn’t know an answer? well, that’s exactly what Palin was last night, soooooooo a-do-ra-ble. It helps mask the clueless-ness and avoid the deer-on-the-road look, I’m told.
Posted by: neverIdiotPalin | October 3, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm
If Obama wins in the 2008 election, Hillary Clinton should switch to Republican, run for President in 2012
and pick Powell as his VP. That would
be a knock-out team.
Posted by: Pol | October 3, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm
What is this so-called “Conservatism?”
Is this a product of right-wing radio?
How long have this term been around?
Is it a gang?
Posted by: Kenneth W. of Minneapolis | October 3, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
LordHelpLiberals – that’s where you’re wrong. Reagan ended the cold war by IGNORING the Conservative foreign policy establishment which told him not to trust Gorbachev. But after the Reyjavyk Summit, Reagan pursued a classic liberal approach of diplomatic engagement – “trust but verify”, remember? Reagan could only win the Cold War by adopting liberal principles.
Care to try again?
Posted by: Cons Are Trash | October 3, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
Cons Are Trash …my turn…you probably will not answer this one, so it will be the nail on your coffin. Is Palin qualified to be VP and if not, why? ( not experienced, be carefull)
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
Question: Who first coined the term “Trickle down” when referring to their tax plan?
Answer: Hoover in 1927. It was one of the major contributing factors for the great depression.
Question: Who set the record for the largest jump in our federal deficit before the current administration due to his ‘trickle down’ tax cuts?
Answer: Regan and his famous ‘Reganomics’. While in term, he managed to raise the federal deficit from just under $1 trillion to over $2.6 trillion. More than all previous presidents before him combined.
Question: Name the president that took a balanced budget and federal surplus when he entered office, and managed to still raise the deficit by $133 billion his first year due to his ‘trickle down’ tax cuts?
Answer: George W. Bush
Question: Who set the record for the highest single year deficit jump in history?
Answer: George W. Bush, who raised the deficit by over a half a trillion dollars.
Question: Who has had the highest deficit increases in history due to huge tax cuts for the wealthy and increased government spending?
Answer: George W. Bush
Question: Who in the 2008 Presidential race want’s to continue a ‘trickle down’ economic Policy?
Answer: McCain
Those who choose to forget history are doomed to repeat it.
Posted by: James Waters | October 3, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
Pol – nice try, but I doubt there will be a Republican left by 2008. They have disgraced themselves to the point of irrelevance and collapse.
Posted by: Amber Dempsey | October 3, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
Am I the only one who wasn’t impressed by Palin’s cute, perky cheerleader attitude? Who the locker room jocks, foaming at the mouth encouraged her to play tough like one of the guys? When she couldn’t keep up with or had forgotten what to say (surely she’d been scripted and coached) she resorted to Alaska and six-packs and attacks on Obama and blaming the Dems for being too overly focused on the Bush admn. mistakes rather than looking forward. Although, she used every opportunity to look back herself when it suited her to blame the Dems. Like Colin Powell, Condileeza Rice, Clarence Thomas (Who Bush seniro admitted he was chosen for his SMILE (smile on Clarence, but that’s insulting beyond reason if you know what we mean)), Sarah Palin wasn’t chosen by the GOP for her intellectual abilities or political experience. As the before mentioned were chosen for their racial makeup, Palin was chosen for her gender, which is actually insulting to all women. The likes of Powell was never meant to have any real pull or influence with them, he was meant to just be a black face when things got tough. Even he once admitted they placed him on “ice” ignored him, ostracized him from their little exclusive pact whenever he had a thought or opinion not in step with their own. In essence, when Powell forgot his place, he was booted from the club.
Posted by: My_Take_On_Issue | October 3, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
Cons Are Trash ,,,got you here..Reagan used the oldest conservative trick in the book against Gorbachev…he coned him and lied to him…biggest con job ever.
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
Interesting that the press was not in any hurry to do much polling re. who won/lost is last night’s VP debate. AFRAID OF A LITTLE REALITY??
Posted by: Temagami | October 3, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm
trust but verify”, remember? Reagan could only win the Cold War by adopting liberal principles.
Trust and verify a liberal principle?…SO, WHY IS IT YOU CAN BASH PALIN WITHOUT VERIFYING ANYTHING FIRST…YOU KILL ME.
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm
LordHelpLiberals – no, she is not. And before you start rambling some predigested con nonsense about Obama’s supposed lack of experience, please remember that Obama spent 7 years in the Illinois State Senate before he ran for the US Senate. Alot of you wackadoo Republicans seem to forget that fact.
Posted by: Amber Dempsey | October 3, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
“Seriously. Why wouldn’t we want the smartest guy in the room?
Right, so why vote for Obama then? Unless you meant shrewd rather than smart.”
Posted by: Kremlin | Oct 3, 2008 6:50:34 PM
depends on how you define smart. for me, these are the qualifications of an intelligent person:
Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA
Undergraduate, 1981-1983
Columbia University
B.A. Political Science with specialization in international relations
Thesis topic: Soviet nuclear disarmament
Graduate
Harvard Law School
J.D. magna cum laude 1988-1991
President, Harvard Law Review
as opposed to attending 5 different colleges to get a journalism degree only to not be able to name ONE newspaper that you read? or graduating in the bottom 5 of your class? i guess we just judge intelligence differently.
Posted by: bridget | October 3, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
I think the larger issue here is one of substance and genuine-ness versus “acting like a politician”. What some have described with regard to Governor Palin as “folksy” to me is simply being herself, and not trying to play a role. She has a genuine connection to mainstream American’s, whereas Biden is just a typical Lib politician; it could just as well been any other Lib politician in the spot and we would have heard the same rhetoric. That’s where Palin sets herself apart from literally any other politician. A lot of Americans, particularly Lib’s, are not used to this, and don’t know what to make of it and write it off as folksy or goofy. She is a real person, not trying to act like anything other than herself.
Bottom line: Sarah Palin, like any other State Governor (ex: Bill Clinton), has more credentials than Barack Obama with regard to executive management experience and, in fact, is more qualified to run for President than Obama. And none of the extremely far left baggage and dangerous friends and mentors that Obama has.
Anyone who votes for Obama simply has to be either naive, blind, or just plain stupid. He will drag us all into the bankruptcy of this country with his Marxist philosophy. And if you don’t understand what Marxism is, then you don’t know what you are voting for.
Good luck with all of that.
Posted by: Jeff Roe | October 3, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
How sad that the candidate who got more votes than any other presidential candidate in history is not on the ballot.
Hillary 2012!
Posted by: csh | October 3, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
Having a hard time getting MaCain/Palin yard signs (Cleveland,OH). Going like hot cakes. Pretty much even now, but I think that the state will come through for McCain/Palin.
Posted by: Temagami | October 3, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm
LordHelpLiberals – um, yes, trust but verify is a classic liberal principle that goes back to JFK and Truman. You really don’t know much about American history, do you?
Not sure how this applies to Palin – after all, we’ve already found her to be a liar on the “Bridge to Nowhere” funding issue. We trusted her at first, but it turns out that her claims couldn’t be verified.
Also, Reagan never “tricked” Gorbachev. WTF are you talking about?
How does it feel to lose a debate to a liberal? LOL
Posted by: Cons Are Trash | October 3, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm
It’s difficult for me to believe that anyone who supported Hillary for president in the primaries would switch to the opposing party that represents the polar opposite of her campaign. I don’t think you really supported her principles to begin with. Fickle is what I’d call it.
Posted by: George | October 3, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm
my 5 year old asked me how he would know if he were a liberal of a conservative…i said, we can answer that with one question…i SAID, “DID YOU JUMP IN THE LAKE TODAY”?..HE SAID, “YES”..I SAID YOU ARE A CONSERVATIVE..he asked how that made him a conservative…i said, if you answered like this, you would be a lib…Bob jumped in the lake first, then sue , then Bill , then Ann….Bob says, he won’t jump in…i have known him for 2 hours and he is a sissy and won’t jump..Sue and Ann started to dare me to jump in , so i did…it’s all Bob’s fault because he jumped in first..Sue and Ann are to blame first because they dared me…it was not my fault i jumped in the lake !!!
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
Anyone who votes for Obama simply has to be either naive, blind, or just plain stupid. He will drag us all into the bankruptcy of this country with his Marxist philosophy.
Posted by: Jeff Roe | Oct 3, 2008 9:34:45 PM
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I think you forget that the country is already trillions of dollars in debt. And that was before we lost an additional $1.2 Trillion in *one day* during the Wall Street crisis. We spend billions in Iraq every month. We borrow money from other countries. Now we have the 700 billion dollar bailout. But I guess this is all Obama’s fault because he’s been the president the last 8 years.
Posted by: McTrolls | October 3, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm
LordHelp – also, to answer your question about Palin’s qualifications. I would say that based on her checkered educational history and disturbing lack of knowledge about the world – as demonstrated in her interviews with Katie Couric and Charlie Gibson – she is CLEARLY unqualified for the office she seeks.
Posted by: Cons Are Trash | October 3, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm
LordHelpLiberals – was that before or after you molested your 5 year old?
Posted by: big bad bob | October 3, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
** has more credentials than Barack Obama with regard to executive management experience **
Substitute “John McCain” for “Barack Obama” in the above and it still true, yet nobody seems to bring up that point.
Posted by: James Waters | October 3, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
Ha! Cons Are Trash just demolished that fool LordHelpLiberals. Too funny. Cons are through.
Posted by: Obama 08 | October 3, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
WAY TO GO, HILLARY!!!! THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING GOVERNOR PALIN! I KNEW YOU LIKED HER!
OOPSS…LOOKS LIKE HILLARY DOESNT SUPPORT NOBAMA 100% AFTER ALL…SORRY OBAMABOTS, YOU LOSE!!!!
Posted by: NewOrleansLady
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You would have to be freaking retarded or republican to think the article stated Clinton was pro Palin and anit-Obama
Posted by: rage.against | October 3, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
James Water
What you pointed out in your history lesson [the deficit] is exactly what happend when Palin was Mayor of Y-Cil-A, and her current spending as governor of the State of Alaska.
Posted by: Kenneth W. of Minneapolis | October 3, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
Also, Reagan never “tricked” Gorbachev. WTF are you talking about?
do a little research…it was a thing called “Star Wars Program”..Reagan dreamed of it, but it was not going to happen..he took the concept, made the russians believe we could pull it off…he coned him you idiot..he lied…conservative way…i win !!!
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
Hillary is first class. She gave Ms. Palin a compliment, not an endorsement. I was impressed by Palin’s performance last night, but not enough to change my vote for Obama / Biden.
Biden could have corrected her on a couple of points like the name of our military leader in Afghanistan, but gentleman that he is, he didn’t. It was a flub, but not an issue to debate.
Posted by: George | October 3, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
If that’s the way you feel, how come you don’t put Palin at the top of your ticket, since she has more “executive experience” than McCain does, too. LOL
Posted by: Obama 08 | October 3, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
Political Liberalism promotes dependence upon government. Conservatism promotes dignity and self worth of the individual. The Amish are my conservative heroes – they even successfully lobbied congress to become exempt from social security. Their lifestyles speak volumes about what the individual can accomplish WITHOUT BIG BROTHER GOVERNMENT TO LEAD THE WAY!! THAT IS WHY I AM A CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN – AND PROUD OF IT!!
Posted by: Temagami | October 3, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm
How sad that the candidate who got more votes than any other presidential candidate in history is not on the ballot.
Hillary 2012!
Posted by: csh | Oct 3, 2008 9:35:30 PM
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The system that both Clinton and Obama agreed to was delegates, not votes. They [both] also agreed to disqualify FL and MI for breaking the rules. If there are problems, they should be brought up before the game starts, not when you start to lose.
Posted by: McTrolls | October 3, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
LordHelpLiberals – the problem with that claim is that Reagan wasn’t bluffing. He actually thought Star Wars worked. If you read George Shultz’s memoirs you’ll see that Reagan went into Reyjavik and came out of it thinking that he was acting in good faith with Gorbachev. If it was a mere “trick” or a “con” it never would have worked. Your knowledge of these events is shallow and incorrect.
You lose. Thanks for playing.
Posted by: Cons Are Trash | October 3, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
** Anyone who votes for Obama simply has to be either naive, blind, or just plain stupid. He will drag us all into the bankruptcy of this country with his Marxist philosophy. **
Please explain this philosophy!
McCain and Obamas tax plans: According to TPC analysis, McCain will raise deficit by $4.2 Trillion over 10 years. Obama by $2.9.
According to EPI analysis (and WSJ), McCain and Obamas health plans cost roughly the same ($1.3 vs $1.6 trillion over 10 years), yet Obamas is more efficent and will allow coverage for more Americans.
Combined, McCain plans on spending considerably more, giving less back to middle class Americans, and causing more Americans to lose health care.
Plus he has a much greater chance of entering the US into yet another war.
Which one has a better chance at bankrupting this country?
Posted by: James Waters | October 3, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm
she is CLEARLY unqualified for the office she seeks.
Posted by: Cons Are Trash
ok, this is check mate….the constitution of the united states sates very clearly what the qualifications are…i made it clear to you i wanted qualification, not experience…read this and weep..check mate…heck, you could even pull off the duties..as dumb as you are.even your ACLU buddies could not argue this.”
III Qualifications and Candidacy
Print this section
The qualifications for the vice presidency are the same as those for the presidency. The vice president must be a native-born American of at least 35 years of age who has resided in the United States for at least 14 years.
The Constitution gives the vice president few other official duties. The vice president serves as president of the Senate, formally presiding over Senate deliberations. Even this constitutional responsibility is limited, giving the vice president a vote on Senate bills and resolutions only if there is a tie vote. Because of this limited role in the Senate, the vice president rarely comes to the chamber. The Senate selects a president pro tempore (temporary president), who supervises the Senate most of the time. The vice president also presides over a joint session of Congress when it formally counts electoral votes for presidential elections
The vice president’s daily activities vary depending on the president’s schedule. When the president is in Washington, D.C., the vice president usually attends meetings of the Cabinet and the National Security Council. The vice president also spends time managing the work of the special committees that the president assigns him or her to lead. The vice president may also meet with official visitors and stand in for the president at important political party gatherings, awards ceremonies, and other social events.
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
Temagami – how can you say crap with a straight face after the last two weeks and the Conservative bailout of Wall Street? Sorry, but reality has shown that Cons’ are full of crap. Your entire ideology is a lie. Just pipe down and contemplate your disgrace quietly. Nobody is listening to your crap anymore.
Posted by: Common Sense | October 3, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
Posted by: Cons Are Trash ..Reagan “dreamed of start wars”…it would have been years away even if he could afford it…geez, he coned them…he had them believeing that we could pull it off in a year or two..he was not as dumb as you think.
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
“That’s why the McCain camp doesn’t want Palin to speak. Too dangerous. She needs more training if she expects to be as good as a man, and make as much money as a man….at least according to McCain, who voted against equal pay for women in 2008.”
Hmmm, Obama does not pay the women on his staff as much as he pays the men on his staff!!! Maybe you should question that.
The McCain Camp is following Obama’s lead. He is also not giving news interviews – not that it would make any difference. Obama has a whole bunch of questions left unanswered, such as where are his senatorial records, his medical records, his educational records and his real birth certificate?
We would also like to hear about his ties with ACORN, Hamas, Ayers, why he listened to Wright for 20 years without hearing a thing he said, the possibility of illegal campaign money funneling from very shady sources, his relationship with Larry Sinclair, the murder of Donald Young, the gay choir director at Trinity who reputedly had a relationship with Obama and that abortion thing.
We also would like to know why Obama and his supporters keep badgering those “racist” Clintons with all of their “baggage” to keep campaigning for him.
If Obama would just step forward and answer all of those questions, we might feel a little better about voting for him for President. However, we know that he will continue to avoid those questions and we also know he is as dumb as a bag of rocks and is not qualified to lead anything, much less a country.
I guess we have no choice but to continue to support McCain/Palin for President and Vice President. Oh Well! :D
PUMA!
McCain/Palin 2008 – In lieu of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.
No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party which ignores her sex.” – Susan B. Anthony
Posted by: LeeLee07 | October 3, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
Temagami
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When do you predict that there will be a civil war between conservatives and liberals?
There are liberals who share your same devotion.
Posted by: Kenneth W. of Minneapolis | October 3, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
Temagami
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When do you predict that there will be a civil war between conservatives and liberals?
There are liberals who share your same devotion.
Posted by: Kenneth W. of Minneapolis | October 3, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
LordHelpLiberals – resorting to technicalities? Give me a break dude. That’s not an argument, that’s a trick question.
You lose.
Posted by: Common Sense | October 3, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
Ugh… why bother? It’s useless trying to talk sense to a Con anyway.
Posted by: Cons Are Trash | October 3, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm
oh..and Bush did lie about WMD
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm
Common Sense – SIX POINTS!! Thanks!!
Posted by: Temagami | October 3, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm
LordHelpLiberals – nice try, but Reagan had also conned himself. He really believed that Star Wars/SDI was viable. This is fact. Read Schultz’s memoirs.
You don’t really know much about history.
Posted by: Cons Are Trash | October 3, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
LordHelpLiberals = Low Information Voter. LOL
Posted by: Amber Dempsey | October 3, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
Posted by: Common Sense …not a trick question…i even made it clear…i said qualifications, not experience…my 5 year old sitting here knows the difference…i deal with fact..that’s why you can’t win…throw gossip out the door.
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
If the liberals were really worried about the national debt, you would not be voting for Obama.
Liberalism means large spending and government run social programs, this requires higher taxes. But don’t think you are exempt if you make less than $42,000 a yr. Obama plans to raise taxes across the board, believe me you will feel it. Obama’s Universal Health care program would cost over $3 trillion a yr. We will go bankrupt.
If you want to use Bill Clinton as an example, look at all the programs Clinton cut, including to the veterans hospitals. Clinton also ignored attacks to the U.S. Two U.S. embassy’s were bombed and Americans were killed and he did nothing. U.S.S. Cole was bombed and he did nothing. While Bill Clinton was president, Al Qaeda reared it’s ugly head and bombed the Twin Towers, did he go after Bin Laden? NO. He gave them the opportunity to plan 9/11 instead of going after them and the Taliban in Afganistan.
How did having a surplus help the victims of 9/11? Was it really worth it?
Posted by: S Adams | October 3, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
Why are Cons so aggressive about their ignorance and stupidity?
Posted by: lubricated cucumber | October 3, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm
S Adams – that’s a pack of bulls–t and lies. Please stop lying. Thanks!
Posted by: kimbers | October 3, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm
i know everything about history..i is what i do…you asked me about the conservative way ..i said Reagan used it every day…he lied and coned the russians…he even fooled you….you are just a little confused .
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
The Department of Defense does have a missle defense system (this may be the so-called Star Wars)
Posted by: Kenneth W. of Minneapolis | October 3, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
LordHelpLiberals – She is still not qualified. There is also a difference between meeting qualifications and being qualified. Nice try.
Posted by: Cons Are Trash | October 3, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
Now we have the 700 billion dollar bailout. But I guess this is all Obama’s fault because he’s been the president the last 8 years.
Posted by: McTrolls | Oct 3, 2008 9:40:16 PM
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Dude, you don’t know your history. The root cause of this mess started long before Bush ever even thought of running for President. It started under Jimmy Carter in 1977. You really should do some research in places other than the Lib blogs. Start with the Community Reinvestment Act which *FORCED* banks (by law) to provide loans to so-called “underserved communities” (read that: poor people). ACORN (you know, those wonderful “community organizers”) had a large hand in putting extreme pressure on the Carter administration to make this happen. That’s a good place to start in your education of the real world versus what the Lib’s would have you believe. Wake up dude.
Good luck with all of that.
Posted by: Jeff Roe | October 3, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
To LeeLee07: You can stop beating that dead horse now.. frankly, those same talking points are getting rather old and torn around the edges. Yet another McCain supporter who cannot discuss issues.
Posted by: James Waters | October 3, 2008, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm
LordHelpLiberals – only a fool claims to know everything about history. Thanks for confirming that. Also, thanks for confirming that Cons are liars.
Posted by: American Air Power | October 3, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
she meets them all of the qualifications…that’s a :FaCT”..call your ACLU buddies..
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
Jeff Roe – Complete crap. Stop lying. Thanks!
Posted by: American Gun Rights | October 3, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
I guess, Hilary can recognize a great woman when she sees one. I am not surprised she liked Palin’s performance. Too bad Obama was not as objective when he was looking around for a VP candidate. Or maybe he was afraid that with Hilary on the ticket, he would not be able to turn our country to Socialist States of America.
Posted by: Alexandra | October 3, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
LordHelpLiberals – she may meet all the qualifications, but that doesn’t mean she’s actually qualified. Two different things, kid. Ask your five year old to explain it to you.
You lose. Again. LOL
Posted by: Cons Are Trash | October 3, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
LordHelpLiberals – only a fool claims to know everything about history. Thanks for confirming that. Also, thanks for confirming that Cons are liars.Posted by: American Air Powers
you really don’t want to go there…here is a list of all the presidents that have lied to you..there is not a “dem or a Rep monopoly on lying.
George Washington
2 John Adams,
3 Thomas Jefferson,
4 James Madison,
5 James Monroe,
6 John Quincy Adams,
7 Andrew Jackson,
8 Martin Van Buren,
9 William Henry Harrison
10 John Tyler,
11 James Knox Polk
12 Zachary Taylor,
13 Millard Fillmore,
14 Franklin Pierce
15 James Buchanan,
16 Abraham Lincoln
17 Andrew Johnson
18 Ulysses Simpson Grant
19 Rutherford Birchard Hayes
20 James Abram Garfield
21 Chester Alan Arthur
22 Grover Cleveland
23 Benjamin Harrison
24 Grover Cleveland
25 William McKinley
26 Theodore Roosevelt
27 William Howard Taft
28 Woodrow Wilson
29 Warren Gamaliel Harding
30 Calvin Coolidge
31 Herbert Clark Hoover
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt
33 Harry S Truman,
34 David Eisenhower
35 John Fitzgerald Kennedy
36 Lyndon Baines Johnson
37 Richard Milhous Nixon
38 Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr
39 James Earl Carter
40 Ronald Wilson Reagan
41 George Herbert Walker Bush
42 William Jefferson Clinton (lied more than once)
43 George W. Bush
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
Alexandra – actually turns out it was Bush who just turned our country into the Socialist States of America with his Wall St. bailout. Kind of ironic that Bush had to use socialism to save the free market when capitalism failed. LOL
Posted by: big bad bob | October 3, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
Dude, you don’t know your history. The root cause of this mess started long before Bush ever even thought of running for President.
Posted by: Jeff Roe | Oct 3, 2008 9:59:55 PM
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Bush hasn’t done anything to help it. Last I checked, we are adding to the deficit. What are McCain/Palin planning to do differently to get us out of “this mess”?
Posted by: McTrolls | October 3, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm
LordHelpLiberals – How old do you think I am? Only McCain is old enough to have been lied to by every President of the U.S. Thanks for confirming that you are, in fact, a fool. LOL
Posted by: American Air Power | October 3, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm
LordHelpLiberals – How old do you think I am? Only McCain is old enough to have been lied to by every President of the U.S. Thanks for confirming that you are, in fact, a fool. LOL
Posted by: American Air Power | October 3, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm
she may meet all the qualifications, but that doesn’t mean she’s actually qualified
that almost makes sense…=geez
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm
You know Hillary (and Bubba too)it is getting mighty old with your lukewarm backing of the Obama/Biden ticket. You are such a poor loser. You played games for an entire year as senator of NY when you were on every news/talk show.(Meet the Press, etc.) ” No, No, I am not running, there is so much I want to accomplish still in NY” Then when you threw your hat into the ring, you took it for granted that you would win. You didn’t plan well, you didn’t spend wisely, you ignored the caucus states, and some how you felt it was a done deal because Bubba was out there campaigning for you. Well, it didn’t happen………so get over it. You and Bubba are both planning to run in 2012, so you are doing as little as possible and keeping as much distance as you can. It will take YEARS to clean up this mess from Bush, and at times I almost wish NcBush would win, just so that it’s another Republican cleaning up the sh–, but unfortunately, I don’t think this country can survive as we are on the brink of total economic meltdown.
Posted by: had enough?? | October 3, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm
** Obama plans to raise taxes across the board, **
False. Please see:
http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/
** Obama’s Universal Health care program would cost over $3 trillion a yr. **
False.
http://www.epi.org/content.cfm/pm126
(Hint: McCain $1.3 trillion, Obama $1.6 trillion over 10 years)
PS: WSJ has an even better analysis.
S.Adams, you really need to educate youself and stop buying into the sound bites coming out of each party.
Posted by: James Waters | October 3, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm
Joe Lieberman was right when he said that the democratic party has changed (I presume he meant by moving all the way to the left of the political center). That is why I, who voted for Bill Clinton and Al Gore, will not vote for a democratic ticket. I suspect many will join me.
Posted by: Alexandra | October 3, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm
LordHelpLiberals – How old do you think I am? Only McCain is old enough to have been lied to by every President of the U.S. Thanks for confirming that you are, in fact, a fool. LOL
Posted by: American Air Powers
you said this, and I’m the fool? McCain was born when FDR was president…and i’m the fool ?…you comment says otherwise
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm
The liberal mindset has little ability to rationally come to reasonable decisions and beliefs, primarily because libs in general do NOT use INDUCTIVE and DEDUCTIVE reasoning processes ….. which leaves them with THINKING with FEELINGS and then defending their points of view by attacking anyone who does not agree with them, with the ample use of nonsensical statements with colorful adjectives. Ironic, because the classic definition of the term “liberal” is one who looks at all sides of an issue and makes a decision on that issue based upon rational thought.
Posted by: Temagami | October 3, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
LordHelpLiberals – yes, you’re the fool. Ask your five year old to explain “hyperbole” to you. LOL
Posted by: American Air Power | October 3, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
a liberal said this “she may meet all the qualifications, but that doesn’t mean she’s actually qualified”..the comment did not make sence to me, so i decided to get together the kids in my wife’s first grade class ( they are about on the same level as liberals, or close enough) if it made sence to them…only one said it did.
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
*** McCain was born when FDR was president…and i’m the fool ?. ***
The jury is still out on if you are a fool or not.. but you certainly cannot spot sarcasm and have yet give a valid reason for your stance on the issues.
Posted by: James Waters | October 3, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
LordHelpLiberals – How old do you think I am? Only McCain is old enough to have been lied to by every President of the U.S. Thanks for confirming that you are, in fact, a fool. LOL
Posted by: American Air Powers
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you said this, and I’m the fool? McCain was born when FDR was president…and i’m the fool ?…you comment says otherwise
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | Oct 3, 2008 10:10:32 PM
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It was just a little Alaska humor from American Air Powers, dog-gone-it. Shout out to Wikipedia!
Posted by: McTrolls | October 3, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
Temagami – and what do you base this total load of crap on besides your own irrational prejudices against liberals? Talk about “thinking with your feelings” – do you realize that you just indicted yourself? Heckuva job, genius. LOL
Posted by: Biggun | October 3, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
Sorry James –
Just because YOU say that horse is dead does not make it so. That horse is alive and kicking and it may be enough to kick Obama’s a$$ back to Chicago. If the MSM would do their jobs and show some journalistic integrity, no question, the nag would be sustaining some serious injuries.
As far as discussing issues, please!
Both Obama and his campaign are based on a hot mess of lies, therefore, any argument regarding Obama’s policy stances are automatically rendered flawed and invalid. Obama has flip-flopped on nearly all of his original positions and you and the rest of the Bots still continue to defend and support this fraud.
You can take YOUR talking points elsewhere, we have heard them all, researched them all and found them all to be bs, just like your Messiah.
PUMA!
McCain/Palin 2008 – In lieu of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.
No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party which ignores her sex.” – Susan B. Anthony
Posted by: LeeLee07 | October 3, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
i don”t have time for you…your intelligence shows in your comments..nothing that pertains to anything.
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
“I will vote for Hillary in November…”. I appreciate your plan that would make you feel good. But if your hope is to see Hillary run in 2012, by voting for her you would hand the presidency to NoBama. Is that what you want? If not, then you’d better vote for McCain!
Posted by: tiger | October 3, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
LordHelpLiberals – first of all, what is “sence”? Is it like sense? Good Lord, son, you can’t even read and write your native language at an adult level and you’re whining that other folks don’t make sense? Second of all, what are you doing gathering a first grade class around you this late in the evening? Do their parents know? You sound like some kind of child molester to me. Sicko.
Posted by: Biggun | October 3, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
James Waters .. i would love to debate the issues…do any of you Obama supporters actually know one?..i only hear Palin bashing from most of you.
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
** Both Obama and his campaign are based on a hot mess of lies, therefore, any argument regarding Obama’s policy stances are automatically rendered flawed and invalid. **
Thank you for proving my point about McCain supporters being completely unable to defend their candidates position, and only able to attack and pull out the same old Roveian practices.
Posted by: James Waters | October 3, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm
Biggun – ANOTHER SIX POINTS!!
Posted by: Temagami | October 3, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm
LordHelpLiberals – well it makes perfect “sence” to me. Allow me to explain it to you with an analogy. I do alot of hiring of contractors at my job, and while many meet the qualifications on paper, it’s up to me to determine who is actually qualified to do the job. Just because somebody looks good on paper doesn’t mean that they’re actually capable of doing the job well. Does that help? Maybe you need to have adults explain things to you rather than children that you’ve kept up way past their bedtimes. Weirdo.
Posted by: American Gun Rights | October 3, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
Do their parents know? You sound like some kind of child molester to me. Sicko.
you are a moron…i don’t have any kids n the house..i use that to prove a point..you need a 1st grader to figure out what you libearls mean…basically idiot, i’m saying you have the mind of a 1st grader…
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
Here are the ABCs of Sarah Palin:
A: Abstinence-only education: Palin opposes all other sex education programs.
B: Bridge to Nowhere: Repeatedly claims to have said “thanks, but no thanks” to Congress. This is not true. Palin supported the bridge boondoggle before Congress said “no thanks,” andstill took the earmark from Congress for other projects. Palin has continued to spend earmarked funds on a second Bridge to Nowhere — Don Young’s Way — named after Alaska’s champion pork-barrel congressman (Young raised funds for Palin’s campaign for Governor).
C: Censorship: Palin inquired about banning books at the Wasilla public library. Palin prepared to fire the Wasilla librarian, but backed off when the community rallied to the defense of the librarian.
Extra Credit
D: Debt: Palin left Wasilla with $19 million in long-term debt (Wasilla had no debt before she was Mayor).
Posted by: Kenneth W. of Minneapolis | October 3, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
American Gun Rights …question for you..when you hire someone, do they need to be able to do your job, or do you train them?
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm
Temagami – seriously, kid, do you have any actual data to back up that nonsensical rant of yours? What are you basing your claims on? See that absurd load of crap may fly among the morons and lackwits who watch FOX News and listen to rightwing hate radio. But here in the real world you have to back up your claims with actual data. Or else YOU’RE the one basing your ideas on “pure emotion”. Please provide your data to back up your claims. Thanks!
Posted by: Biggun | October 3, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm
LordHelpLiberals – I hire contractors – it’s not my job to train them. Which is why I screen them to make sure they’re actually qualified to do the job – and I don’t just mean licensed by the State, either. I’ve seen plenty of licensed bozos who didn’t know which end was up.
Posted by: American Gun Rights | October 3, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
you , me, the icecream man, the Pillsbury dough boy my neighbors dog, and even a couple liberal idiots commenting in here are not only qualified, but can pull off the duties of the VP with their eyes closed and one foot tied to one hand. as long as they meet the qualifications of our constitution…do you believe in our Constitution?.
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
Your candidate does not have any stance on the issues. He has stolen them all from Hillary. ROFLMAO!
I don’t know about Rovian tactics, I have always been a Democrat and have always voted as such, that is, until this year.
As far as attacks, I have been on this board for months and like I said, you can’t defend the hot mess of lies that is Obama without calling your own integrity, if you have any, into question.
However, I will continue to express my opinions in regards to Your Messiah because I like to and I can.
You should just get over it. I am done with debating with members of the Kool-aid Cult. Most of you are too far gone to be helped. :D
PUMA!
McCain/Palin 2008 – in lieu of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton
“No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party which ignores her sex.” – Susan B. Anthony
Posted by: LeeLee07 | October 3, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
LordHelpLiberal – why are you using other people’s kids to make a point? Why can’t you just make it without making us all think you’re some kind of freaky child molester? It’s really kind of creepy… just make your point and step away from the children. LOL
Posted by: Biggun | October 3, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
** ames Waters .. i would love to debate the issues…do any of you Obama supporters actually know one? **
Health care: How do you feel about his taxing employer provided health care for the first time in history in an attempt to shift employees to private coverage? Most analysis shows that this will result in many millions of Americans losing health care coverage, particularly the low and middle class.
His $5000 tax credit across the board regardless of income is yet another example of his favoring the rich. While the rich will have no problem covering the difference in price (average family coverage is $12000 annually), the low and middle class will have a much more difficult time doing so.
In addition, many who are forced to drop employer provided coverage will be unable to obtain private coverage due to pre-existing conditions. This also will effect those looking at switching jobs, preventing many from moving up the income ladder.
Obamas plan has the opposite effect, will provide coverage for more Americans and will contribute an estimated $140 billion in savings to companies providing health coverage to their employees.
Posted by: James Waters | October 3, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
Biggun is right. What is LordHelpLiberal’s weird obsession with other people’s children? Can’t he make a point without verbally fondling kids? It’s getting a little disturbing…
Posted by: Amber Dempsey | October 3, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
American Gun Rights …my point is this..i also hire people…most are not “experienced enough to do my job when i hire them…i do not discriminate fore that reason…over time, many get the experienced and take on responsibilities that i do…why sir, do you want to discriminate against Sara Palin?
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
S Adams – that’s a pack of bulls–t and lies. Please stop lying. Thanks!
Posted by: kimbers | Oct 3, 2008 9:57:56 PM
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That’s all you can say. I lied? I did my research and there are many references to back me up? What part did I lie about? That our embassy’s were bombed and U.S.S. Cole and nothing was done? Tell me what did Clinton do? That he raised taxes and cut spending to worthy causes? These are facts! Did I lie when I said that Al Qaeda was planning 9/11 while Clinton was pres. They planned it for 2 yrs before 9/11/2001. Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t Clinton president in 1999? And didn’t he have a surplus when he left office?
Posted by: S Adams | October 3, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
Amber Dempsey …..you are another moron
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
Biggun…i was giving you the benefit of the doubt…i used the 1st grader to interpret your words for me. I will send them to bed…but, i may not know what you are saying from this point on.
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
S Adams – your research is wrong. Nobody is buying your crap anymore and we are under no obligation to tell you why. Suffice it to say that decent people are just not going to tolerate your kind of partisan crap anymore. We are just going to call you a liar, laugh in your face and then ignore you. That is all your kind deserves. Either learn to come correct and tell the truth or be prepared to be ostracized by decent people.
Posted by: Biggun | October 3, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
Biggun
One of your LIBERAL profs at a local community college (Cleveland)last week gave a media assignment that called for students to do a research paper on network news programs. Students were allowed to use ALL networks … except… FOX!!!!!!! TALK ABOUT ACADEMIC FREEDOM – LACK OF!! LIBS ARE REALLY NOT TOO BRIGHT. NOW THIS IDIOT IS ON THE OUTSIDE LOOKING IN – WITH INSTANT FACT CHECKS AND IMMEDIATE COMMUNICATIONS, AIR HEAD PROFS NEED TO “THINK” ABOUT THE RESULTS OF THEIR ACTIONS. KERMIT EBI DEFINES THE TRULY MATURE AND EDUCATED INDIVIDUAL AS ONE WHO IS AWARE OF THE POSSIBLE AND PROBABLE CONSEQUESCES OF HIS ACTS AND NON-ACTS AND RESPONDS, BASED UPON THAT AWARNESS.
Posted by: Temagami | October 3, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
S Adams kimbers is right. You are a liar. Nice try.
Posted by: Common Sense | October 3, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
Bush hasn’t done anything to help it. Last I checked, we are adding to the deficit. What are McCain/Palin planning to do differently to get us out of “this mess”?
Posted by: McTrolls | Oct 3, 2008 10:06:21 PM
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Wrong again, genious. Continuing on my first entry: In Jan. 1995 Janet Reno under the Clinton administration further revised this law
(so-called “sub-prime authorization”) that compelled banks, by law, to give loans that were not capitalized (no down payment, no interest and low interest loans that turned into higher interest loans over time, etc) to this same underserved community. Banks then had to get very creative to meet the quotas for these types of MANDATED loans or face severe penalties.
In 2003 Bush recommended what the NY Times called “the most significant regulatory overhall in the housing financial industry since the Savings and Loan crisis a decade ago”. This change was to move governmental supervision from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac (FMAFM) under a wholly new agency created under the Department of Justice which would give it more oversight power, more auditing power, and would require FMAFM to better capitalize their debt. But that legislation was blocked in 2003 in Congress – by the Democrats – because the Dem’s were in bed with ACORN and other community activist grass-roots groups. Rep. Barney Frank, Senator Chris Dodd, the Clinton administration – all were in bed with these groups.
And Barney Frank said at the time, “…these two entities, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, are not facing any kind of financial crisis. The more pressure we see on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.”
So basically the Socialists forced the private sector to behave in ways the private sector didn’t want to behave, but was forced to under threat of law, giving loans to people who are bad risks.
I’m done educating you. You’ve obviously been brainwashed by the Lib drones you hang with. However, it may, not be too late to save yourself. Trying doing your own research and then maybe you’ll see the light.
Good luck with all of that.
Posted by: Jeff Roe | October 3, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
joe botox Biden. He was hard to look at. No expression.
Posted by: fuel rod | October 3, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
joe botox Biden. He was hard to look at. No expression.
Posted by: fuel rod | October 3, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
Biggun …do you know anything at all about Obama?..anything will do…just one thing as to why you are voting fr=or him..( most liberals only say because Palin is an idiot)…i’ll give you a chance
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
Temagami – what does that unhinged rant have to do with providing me with data to back up your absurd claims?
First of all, why should any credible professor give FOX News the time of day? It’s not a legitimate news organization and nobody serious takes it very seriously anymore. Second, telling me this anecdote is not providing me with data to support your earlier claims.
It seems to me that you’re the one who doesn’t do very well with inductive/deductive reasoning.
Posted by: Biggun | October 3, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm
LordHelpLiberals – sure, I know that Obama was President of the Harvard Law Review and taught Constitutional Law at U Chicago. Frankly, after the way Bush and Cheney ran roughshod over the Constitution I am very inclined to vote for a President who actually understands how our Constitution really works.
Posted by: Biggun | October 3, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
Jeff Roe – complete nonsense. Try again. Thanks!
Posted by: Amber Dempsey | October 3, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
America is the only country in the world where you can make/prepare someone to be Vice President in 5 business days. How sick and dumb founded is that? What kind of respect do Americans expect from the world or even real Americans for that matter. I frankly can’t help to wonder how Palin made it to the Governor spot???
It is really sad to see how low of a standard G.W Bush set for generations to come!!! What a shame!!! NEVER MORE AMERICA! NEVER SHALL WE HAIL TO STUPIDITY AND IGNORANCE! SEE WHERE THAT GOT US!
Palin must go back to College and get informed before running for any Government office!!! Please!!!
Posted by: Saruh | October 3, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
…of course Palin IS an idiot… but that’s not why I’m voting for Obama.
Posted by: Biggun | October 3, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
** do you know anything at all about Obama?..anything will do…just one thing as to why you are voting fr=or him **
LordHelpLiberals, I am still awaiting your rebuttal..
Posted by: James Waters | October 3, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
Biggun,,and that makes him qualified?
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm
Damn… the Libs are really kicking Con arse here tonight! Nice to see – I guess the GOP really is intellectually bankrupt after all. LOL
Posted by: surrealistic pillock | October 3, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm
LordHelpLiberals – In my opinion, yes. Thanks for asking.
Posted by: Biggun | October 3, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
Biggun, FOX NEWS IS DWARFING ALL THE OTHER NETWORS COMBINED IN BOTH RATINGS AND INCOME – THE PHRASE “FOX IS NOT A LEGITIMATE NEWS SOURCE” IS LIB ORIGINATED IN ORDER TO BELITTLE THE OPPOSITION – GOBBLEDEGOOK!!
Posted by: Temagami | October 3, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
James Waters …your comments are not Factual..they are full of what ifs and promises…i can only deal with what has happened , not what someone say they will do..cannot debate what someone says…sorry, but give me a fact.
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
Temagami – incorrect. Fox News is only “dwarfing” the other CABLE news networks. But it’s ratings are a drop in the bucket compared to the three broadcast networks’ national newscasts and even the Jim Leher Newshour on PBS. And FOX News is widely considered to be biased and partisan and not a serious newgathering organization. Also, according to media watchdog groups across the political spectrum, FOX News consistently gets its basic facts wrong. Ratings and Revenue do not equate with accuracy or professionalism. FOX News is not a serious news network. Sorry, but that’s a fact.
Posted by: Biggun | October 3, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
In my opinion, yes. Thanks for asking
my point..your opinion only matters to you…and a couple 1st graders.
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
Then why did you ask for my opinion in the first place? Duh.
Also, dude, please stay away from the first graders. It’s really getting creepy. You child molesting freak.
Posted by: Biggun | October 3, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm
** .your comments are not Factual..they are full of what ifs and promises…i can only deal with what has happened , not what someone say they will do..cannot debate what someone says…sorry, but give me a fact. **
They were based on what each candidate has stated and detailed analysis by places such as the tax policy center, economic policy institute and wall street journal. I asked you to defend your candidates position, and you apparently cannot.
** i can only deal with what has happened , not what someone say they will do **
Then the jury is in, you are indeed a fool. How can you best determine what direction each candidate will take this country if you refuse to even examine their positions. Hindsight is 20/20, but unfortunately you cannot change the past, only the future.
Posted by: James Waters | October 3, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm
ROFL… Biggun is cracking me up… LordHelp just keeps walking into it and getting clowned! LOL
Posted by: Amber Dempsey | October 3, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
Another Dumb founded and empty headed Republican in the White house and that country is done for! G.W Bush Presidency was the equivalent of 2 nuclear bombs dumped in this country, if not worse!!! Lord have mercy!
Posted by: Saruh! | October 3, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
Obama is turning out to be a real loser. First he tell us “TO GET IN OUR NEIGHBOR’S FACE.” NOW, ON HIS WEBSITE HE IS REQUESTING HIS SUPPORTERS TO “PICKET” PALIN APPEARENCES IN TEXAS. THIS GUY IS A CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT??
Posted by: Manitu | October 3, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm
James Waters – was there ever any doubt? LordHelpLiberals is the biggest fool here.
Posted by: surrealistic pillock | October 3, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm
ALSO, I HATE BLACK PEOPLE!
Posted by: Manitu | October 3, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm
the positions you are referring to are nothing but campaign promises..geez, were you born yesterday? When they candidates start throwing around how much they are going to spend on this and how much they are going to spend on that, well, you must be an idiot or just got off the boat…it’s not about what they say, it’s all about what they do…no wonder yoiu Lib’s can’t win an election..it’s not the politicians it’s the liberals voters that are the fools
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm
So what if I love first graders? With their smooth, downy skin and silky little bottoms? Is that a crime? I’m only human!
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
Biggun …ok, i will leave the first graders and go back to your sister. she moves every now and trhen
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
Who cares if I touch a few young boys “down there”? I am only giving them gentle instructions in the ways of love. Better it’s me than some gross girl with her stinky girl parts!
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
Some idiot wrote: “sorry, but give me a fact.”
You cannot debate facts, by definition. If that is the level of intelligence you posses, then you have no business determining the future of this country by voting.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 3, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
This place is getting to weird for me… I’m outta here…
Posted by: Biggun | October 3, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
well, Obama probaly likes 1st graders also, so why not !!
Posted by: Biggun | October 3, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm
Sure I’ve been to prison a few times – but that’s only because the prudish authorities can’t understand the kind of love that takes place between a grown man and his neighbor’s young children…
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm
idiots using my name…wow, i’m impressed
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm
And so what if I accidentally killed and ate a few children? It wasn’t my fault that they wouldn’t stop crying, was it? It’s not like it makes me some kind of monster…
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
oh well..just shows that they can’t stand up to anything…playing childish games by using my name…oh well..i wil lget the last laugh
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
Of course narrow-minded people will use big words like “pedophile” and “sexual predator” and “cannibal rapist” but how can they put a label on my desires?
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
Obama – “THE WAR IS LOST – BRING TROOPS HOME, NOW.”
“THE SURGE WILL NEVER WORK.”
“WELL, MAYBE THE SURGE IS WORKING, BUT NOT THE POLITICAL SOLUTION.”
“I NEVER EXPECTED THE POLITICAL SOLUTION TO WORK.”
……. OBAMA IS NOT EVEN QUALIFIED FOR HIS JOB AS SENATOR!!
Posted by: Jimbo | October 3, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
They can play childish games, but I will get the last laugh when I play my favorite childish game… luring my nieghbor’s children into my basement.
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
** it’s not about what they say, it’s all about what they do. **
Then it’s Obama in 2008 hands down. McCain does what is best for the Military, Obama does what is best for America.
Not what they say, what they do.. view for yourself.
http://thomas.loc.gov/
Posted by: Concerned American | October 3, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
John McCain: “But I believe, Katie, that the Iraqi people will greet us as liberators.” [NBC, 3/20/03]
“It’s clear that the end is very much in sight.” [ABC, 4/9/03]
“There’s not a history of clashes that are violent between Sunnis and Shiahs. So I think they can probably get along.” [MSNBC, 4/23/03]
“This is a mission accomplished. They know how much influence Saddam Hussein had on the Iraqi people, how much more difficult it made to get their cooperation.” [This Week, ABC, 12/14/03]
“I’m confident we’re on the right course.” [ABC News, 3/7/04]
“I think the initial phases of it were so spectacularly successful that it took us all by surprise.” [CBS, 10/31/04]
“I do think that progress is being made in a lot of Iraq. Overall, I think a year from now, we will have made a fair amount of progress if we stay the course. If I thought we weren’t making progress, I’d be despondent.” [The Hill, 12/8/05]
….McCAIN IS NOT EVEN QUALIFIED FOR HIS JOB AS SENATOR!!!
Posted by: JIMBO | October 3, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
You know liberals judge me just because I like to wear the skin of first graders after I rape them, kill them and eat them – but what do stupid liberals know?
McCain/Palin ’08!
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
Psst.. hey Jimbo.. Even Gen. Paetraus said the surge didn’t work.. go read the congressional transcripts. Don’t forget to check out the part where McCain asked why we couldn’t just let the genocide happening there continue!
Posted by: RedNeckBob | October 3, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm
Anyone who votes for McCain/Palin is either a racist or a complete idiot. I been reading all these pissed off Hillary supporters acting as if she endorsed Palin, what a crock of you know what. The bottomline is is this. McCain/Palin supporters cant stomach the fact a black man actually has a real chance of being the next POTUS and that scares the hell outta them, let go of your racial biases and do whats right for your country for once in your pathetic lives.
Posted by: Anti-Idiot | October 3, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
OK OK I give in. I understand that Palin isn’t qualified to be the #2 most powerful position in the country. Yes, when I hire people, I don’t discriminate based on whether or not they can do the job. I offer on the job training. But just any joe-six-pack off the street shouldn’t be VP. For the VP of the United States, I guess should have higher standards. Even my 5 year old knows this.
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
I’ll make a deal with the Dems. If you can get the Cubs to win the next 3 in a row I’ll vote for Obama.
Posted by: Chi-town | Oct 3, 2008 7:26:42 PM
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I BELIEVE SENATOR JOHN MCCAIN HAS BEEN TRYING TO REACH YOU!
he read your post and now wants to make you his Secretary of State.
Wait, are you Black? He says he needs a Negro for that position.
Posted by: GIGI - www.johnmaccainwantsyou.com | October 3, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm
Hey,Jimbo! Some lib loser is using your name – like Japan in WW11, the ONLY way the libs can win is by deception – REMEMBER BOOK CALLED “MASTERS OF DECEIT?” Description of COMMIE tactics – much the same as you see on these sites- BUNCH OF LOSERS!!
Posted by: Manitu | October 3, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm
Redneckbob – yeah right!! YOU LIBS MAKE UP SO MUCH GOBBLEDEGOOK THAT YOU ACTUALLY BEGIN TO BELIEVE IT!! RECENT RESEARCH ON TOPIC DOES CONFIRM!!
Posted by: Manitu | October 3, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm
Manitu: Why would he tell his supporter to “picket” Palin appeareance in Texas? Thsi man really hate women.
Posted by: Sally299 | October 3, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm
Sally299 – I have no Idea – all I know that it was on Obama’s website. I have not checked toight, but I know it was on earlier!!
Posted by: Manitu | October 3, 2008, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm
Michelle wrote: “If Obama wins this election, Hillary won’t get her chance in 2012. McCain 2008 ~ Clinton 2012!”
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More than certain, Hillary will be offered a high profile post in a McCain-Palin administration. McCain respects Hillary very much and vs – the two of them have an excellent relationship!
The party-lines as we know them are crumbling (Lieberman, etc) Hillary can still run for President in 2012. Whether she supports Obama or not now it will not make a difference – the Democrats will still need her – they do not have anybody else better than her!
The Clintons do not owe anything to Obama… he made his bed – let him sleep in it!
Posted by: Natasha | October 3, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
I’m done educating you. You’ve obviously been brainwashed by the Lib drones you hang with. However, it may, not be too late to save yourself. Trying doing your own research and then maybe you’ll see the light.
Good luck with all of that.
Posted by: Jeff Roe | Oct 3, 2008 10:36:26 PM
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Awe say it ain’t so, Roe. There you go, your ticket always looking back, dog-gone-it. You didn’t answer the question. What do McCain and Palin plan to do about it? First they were for the bailout, then voted for it, then want Bush to veto it. Maybe McCain should suspend his campaign again and actually layout a plan instead attacking the democrat plan. I’m waiting to hear plans laid out…not talking points.
Posted by: McTrolls | October 3, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
http://www.usawakeup.org/obama.htm
Posted by: Stone Dog | October 3, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm
Question – Who said this:
“Naturally the common people don’t want war. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”
Answer: Hermann Goering
Tactic last used by: George W. Bush
Posted by: JustSayNoToMac | October 3, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
OH NOOO!!!!
You’re darn Tootin’ I’ma vote for McCain now cuz I want Hillary to run in..um, EIGHT years?
you guys don’t give up DO YOU?
You really want Hillary’s supporters!?
awwwwwww so cute.
Posted by: GIGI - OHMYGODYOUCANTBESERIOUS | October 3, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
Anti-Idiot (Genius) -
I am black, am not a racist and am not voting for Obama. Obama is going to have to be more than black to get my vote and a whole lot of others.
On the other hand, that is a nice thing for you, as an Obama Supporter, and a member of the Unity, Change and Hope Party, to be saying to your fellow Americans because they do not agree with you and Your Messiah.
We are all Americans and we have the right to vote for whom we want to without being called racist or an idiot.
You need to grow up.
PUMA!
McCain/Palin 2008 – In lieu of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.
“No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party which ignores her sex.” – Susan B. Anthony
Posted by: LeeLee07 | October 3, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm
Do Nothing Folks – well right off the top of many are Obama, Pelosi and Reid.
Do everything folks – yep, that would Put McCain/Palin in the WhiteHouse!
Palin is More Qualified than Obama!!! Lets
Posted by: McCain / Palin '08' | October 3, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
McCain and Palin ARE` EFFECTIVE!!! They are Mavricks who have a record of working for the people, in bi-partisanship. Obama and Biden are bench warmers. BTW did Biden get a eye job? He looks Chinese now.
Posted by: No Way No How NOBAMA! | October 3, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm
Sally said: “She stated, she does not care about the republican’s policy but strongly believer republican will protect this country and prevent civil war on our soil. Just stating her comments and my family feeling.”
Oh Sally dear, please tell your friend that her fears are completely irrational, and since you say she does not care about the republican’s policy, that just goes to show how baseless her decision is. If anyone will lead us into another war, it is McCain.. that is all he knows or cares about.
Janice
Posted by: Janice | October 3, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm
digusted, you’ve got to be kidding! obama always says “the question is…” to advoid the Real Question…. get a brain.
Posted by: Not Fooled | October 4, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am
Digusted – notice that the media was in no rush to declare a winner – WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU?? USE A LITTLE INDUCTIVE REASONING – IF THAT’S POSSIBLE FOR A LIB!!
Posted by: Temagami | October 4, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am
Have we reached the point of mediocrity in this country that Sarah Palin’s debate performance was actually acceptable to her supporters (fortunately, Independents in early polls do not share that view) because she didn’t fall on her face, as many conservatives feared? That’s your standard? No wonder there are still some of you who still think George Bush, the very definition of mediocrity, is a good president.
In a word, Palin’s debate performance was pathetic. She couldn’t win a high school student council election with those homespun platitudes, repetitive inane comments about the war, and most strikingly her refusal to answer not a few but EVERY question put to her that demanded a direct answer.
Every economic question received the tired tax-and-spend slogans Republicans have bellowed for years.
Foreign policy: “You were wrong on the surge.” — That was it. Not one single idea of her own (which is understandable, since she has none). What would you do different in bad economic times like this? “Cut more taxes in Walissa.” The great foreign policy team around McCain-Palin includes Rudy Giuliani, who has about as much foreign policy experience as Madonna, and who history will record mishandled 9/11 in tragic ways.
Palin’s next foreign policy guru? Mitt Romney. — The same stiff-haired flip-flopper whose entire foreign policy experience was pedaling his bike trying to convert Mormons in France. Or Henry Kissinger, who ran illegal wars in Laos and Cambodia to get Richard Nixon re-elected and lied when he told Americans before the 1972 election that, “Peace is at hand” in Vietnam. I suppose if your worldview is seeing Russia from an island in Alaska, and having a border with our threatening neighbor, Canada, you love these guys.
The Economic Crisis: When asked about the current economic crisis, she says nothing because she knows nothing. But she sure talked about her family breakfast table a lot. That’s the table the citizens of Alaska paid per diem for her to sit at for over 300 days as governor. She says electing her and McCain is electing two mavericks who will cut spending, including earmarks. Palin has asked for, and gotten, $1 million every day in pork for Alaska since she’s been governor.
Palin says she and McCain will appoint the most qualified people to government despite party labels. Sort of like your second grade friend you put in charge of Alaska’s agriculture because “she loved cows as a little girl,” Sarah?
A word for Moderator Gwen Ifill: The right intimidated you. You never forced Palin to answer a question directly and not duck; you bent over backward to take her sophomoric answers seriously; and frankly you treated her with girlie gloves.
But that’s not the point. Even with your softball questions she couldn’t get past “aw shucks,” “hockey moms” and “Wasilla values” (which get weirder and weirder).
If the stakes weren’t so high, this obviously nice and fairly articulate person can probably still govern the state of Alaska, where frankly it doesn’t much matter. But vice president of the United States? That is a bridge not only too far, but the real bridge to nowhere.
Posted by: If that was "effective" ... | October 4, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am
Say Goodnight Pubs ….do you really , honestly and of sound mind, believe poll numbers?..please, say you don’t
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 4, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am
Temagami wrote “We are only attacked when we are perceived to be weak”
Yes dear, you continue to beleive that..
You apparently do not realize that we had the worlds largest army, by magnitudes, on 9/11 and yet those nasty men still did what they did. You do realize that we are spending BILLIONS of dollars a month due to the actions of al-qaeda, which the CIA estimated to consist of 1000-1500 individuals around the world? That is considerably smaller than the town of Wasilla. But due to the fear and ignorance tactics of our administration to lead the sheeple of this country into war that had nothing to do with 9/11, we have now put the country on the verge of bankruptcy. And yet, knowing all of this, people still continue to believe the lies fed, and still believe, as John McCain does, that we can continue spending without any consequences.
Honey, you seriously need to step back and take a look at this countries situation, how we got there, and how we are going to get back to where we were. And I’ll give you a hint, McCain ain’t the answer by a long shot.
Posted by: Janice | October 4, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am
Congratulations Governor Palin!!
Thank you McCain!Thank you Senator Clinton!
And, hell NO – we are NOT going to “waive a white surrender flag” Mr. Obama bin Biden!!
A USA Military History (Tchaikovsky 1812 Overture)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6370539579217643597&hl=en
GOD BLESS AMERICA!
Posted by: Natasha | October 4, 2008, 12:25 am 12:25 am
Hmmm, sounds like Bill Hillary are BOTH voting for McCain.
Posted by: LJC | October 4, 2008, 12:25 am 12:25 am
Say Goodnight Pubs ….do you really , honestly and of sound mind, believe poll numbers?..please, say you don’t
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | Oct 4, 2008 12:19:43 AM
Obviously the McCain camp believes in poll numbers since they are pulling out of Michigan. There is some common sense still left in the world of republicans. (unless you want to shell out some more of your money to them so they can stay) Now, bring on the Karl Rove playbook, and see if the negativity doesn’t bring more voters Obama’s way.
Posted by: DB | October 4, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am
Natasha darling, you still beating that same old drum? And are you suggesting that people should vote based on how others are voting.. you do sound like one of the sheep.. mindlessly following and believing everything you are told without any capacity for creative thought or questioning. That is how we got 8 years of a ‘C’ student in office, and we can’t take any more from a ‘D-’ one..
Posted by: Janice | October 4, 2008, 12:32 am 12:32 am
Sarah Palin kept referring to “Joe 6-pack” during the debates because her answers sound a lot better after drinking 6 beers.
Posted by: David Letterman | October 4, 2008, 12:34 am 12:34 am
Now, bring on the Karl Rove playbook, and see if the negativity doesn’t bring more voters Obama’s way.
Posted by: DB
you poor ignorant liberal…i said nothing negative about anyone. I simply asked if they really believed in polls?…they really don’t mean squat…i would even say that if McCain were ahead…do you really trust ABC to conduct anything without bias? i feel sorry for you if you believe in polls…you need to wake up and smell the coffee…my mama taught me a long time ago..don’t always believe what you read..believe what you see.
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 4, 2008, 12:34 am 12:34 am
Anti-Idiot (Genius) -
I am black, am not a racist and am not voting for Obama. Obama is going to have to be more than black to get my vote and a whole lot of others.
On the other hand, that is a nice thing for you, as an Obama Supporter, and a member of the Unity, Change and Hope Party, to be saying to your fellow Americans because they do not agree with you and Your Messiah.
We are all Americans and we have the right to vote for whom we want to without being called racist or an idiot.
You need to grow up.
PUMA!
McCain/Palin 2008 – In lieu of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.
“No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party which ignores her sex.” – Susan B. Anthony
Posted by: LeeLee07 | Oct 3, 2008 11:30:34 PM
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LIAR! lol!!! BUSTEEEED!
so you’re saying “just cuz I’m black it does not mean I should vote for Obama” but you top it off with a remark that indicates WOMEN should vote for McCain because he’s got a woman????
LOL are you enyce pants on fire???? lol!
Posted by: GIGI | October 4, 2008, 12:35 am 12:35 am
Sarah Palin kept referring to “Joe 6-pack” during the debates because her answers sound a lot better after drinking 6 beers.
Posted by: David Letterman | Oct 4, 2008 12:34:42 AM
sounds like something my 4 year old would have said..geez, nothing better than that?
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 4, 2008, 12:36 am 12:36 am
Janice. Clinton did not respond to any number of terrorist attacks on our people overseas. THAT gave the message that WE WERE WEAK AND RIPE FOR AN ATTACK ON OUR HOMELAND. He also cut our military down to bare bone – FROM WHICH WE HAVE STILL NOT FULLY RECOVERED. THE WAR AGAINST TERRORISM IS SOMETHING THAT NO COUNTRY HAS HAD TO PLAN FOR BEFORE. WE MADE MISTAKES, BUT HAVE LEARNED WELL – OBAMA HAS NO CLUE ABOUT ANY OF THIS AS HE WAS SO WRONG ABOUT OUR GOALS AND PROGRESS IN IRAQ. You tell me why the terrorists prefer Obama over McCain – PLEASE DON’T SPOUT NEGOTIATION GOBBDEGOOK.
Posted by: Temagami | October 4, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am
ther phrase “joe six pack ” has been around for 100 years..why do you liberals act like Sara Palin just made it up?. if Biden would have said it, you would be laughing all the way to the toilet…you guys make this way to easy for us..is their any intelligent life out there in liberal land?
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 4, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am
Looks like Palin is having a hard time winning over those coveted Clinton supporters…at least the women, who are wise to it. The men, well she’s eye candy…she’s a MILF to them so I guess that’s our standard for women in politics from here on out. Way to represent. Go women! Woo! Listen to all the male pundits she’s swooning.
Troopergate is coming. October 2008.
Posted by: YoYoMa | October 4, 2008, 12:40 am 12:40 am
LJC wrote:
“Hmmm, sounds like Bill Hillary are BOTH voting for McCain.”
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:-)
The Clintons owe nothing to Obama. He made his bed – I guess he will have to sleep in it…
I am Natasha and aprove this message.
Posted by: Natasha | October 4, 2008, 12:40 am 12:40 am
Just because Clinton and Palin are on opposite sides does not mean that Clinton can not be gracious. Of course, some people are not able to understand that.
Posted by: Iam4thiscountry | October 4, 2008, 12:40 am 12:40 am
McCain/Palin Will Put Country First!
Obama Wants YOU to Learn Spanish!!
Posted by: Voteing McCain In Ohio | October 4, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am
Gigi – I changed my vote to McCain as soon as Obama was “selected” as the nom by the crooked DNC.
If you are talking about the Susan B. Anthony remark – that remark pertains to the DNC and is at the bottom of all my posts.
I never said anything about women should vote for McCain. Women, like men, will vote however they please.
Now, get a grip on yourself, wipe that kool-aid stain from around your lips and go to bed.
PUMA! McCain/Palin 2008 – In lieu of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.
“No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party which ignores her sex.” – Susan B. Anthony
Posted by: LeeLee07 | October 4, 2008, 12:42 am 12:42 am
Hey “Temagami”, here is a fact for you to chew on.. Bin Laden had been trying to tempt the US into Afghanistan for a couple of years.. he calls it his ‘graveyard of empires’. Clinton refused to fall for his tricks.. Guess who did.. Yup, that numnuts that is currently in office. And then he botched it up so bad by only sending in a ‘token’ force, he tried to distract the American citizens from his failure by leading us into Iraq.
Ever heard of the saying: “Only fools rush in where wise men fear to tread”?
Bonus question: Who of the two candidates graduated college 5th from the bottom of their class and has a military mentality?
Posted by: Concerned American | October 4, 2008, 12:44 am 12:44 am
when I hear the phrase “Joe Six Pack” It gives me a visual of a guy with a beer belly sitting in a chair in his underwear scratching is b…s with one hand and holding a beer in the other. I think it is really insulting.
Posted by: Iam4thiscountry | October 4, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am
liberal idiots” you can
‘t be that stupid.
“Joe Public” redirects here. For other uses, see Joe Public (disambiguation).
Look up John Q. Public in Wiktionary, the free dictionary.John Q. Public is a generic name in the United States to denote a hypothetical member of society deemed a “common man.” He is presumed to have no strong political or social biases relevant to whatever topic is at hand, and to represent the randomly selected “man on the street.” The equivalent terms are John Q. Citizen and John Q. Taxpayer. Female equivalents include Jane Q. Public, Jane Q. Citizen, and Jane Q. Taxpayer.
In the United States, the term John Q. Public is used by law enforcement officers to refer to an individual with no criminal bent, as opposed to the terms perp or skell, used to qualify unsavory individuals.
Similar terms for the common family can be Mr. & Mrs. John Q. Public, Mr. & Mrs. John Q. Citizen, or Mr. & Mrs. John Q. Taxpayer
Roughly equivalent, but more pejorative, are the names Joe Six-pack, Joe Blow, and Joe Schmoe, implying a lower-class citizen (from the Yiddish schmo: simpleton, or possibly Hebrew sh’mo: (what’s)-his-name).
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 4, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am
LeeLee
Good for you honey, that’s the easy way to go. I guess it works for some people just to vote for or against something just for partisan reasons.
Condescending remarks a Clintonite won’t make ya’
gotta love a Wansta.
Posted by: GIGI | October 4, 2008, 12:47 am 12:47 am
GET THE BEST PALIN STUFF AT http://WWW.SARAHPALINHASAPOSSE.COM
Posted by: dlw | October 4, 2008, 12:47 am 12:47 am
you poor ignorant liberal…i said nothing negative about anyone. I simply asked if they really believed in polls?…they really don’t mean squat…i would even say that if McCain were ahead…do you really trust ABC to conduct anything without bias? i feel sorry for you if you believe in polls…you need to wake up and smell the coffee…my mama taught me a long time ago..don’t always believe what you read..believe what you see.
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | Oct 4, 2008 12:34:49 AM
A page out of the McCain/Palin playbook, ignore what you want and spin it to suit your needs. After ignoring the main point that McCain thinks polls are important, I was stating that the Obama camp KNOWS the negativity is coming because it is October AND McCain is down in the polls so McCain will think of some stunt to throw everything off. Will it work? We’ll see. ABC is not the only one conducting polls (and not just online). But on the electoral college maps that the PROS are looking at, McCain has his work cut out for him.
Posted by: DB | October 4, 2008, 12:48 am 12:48 am
Iam4thiscountry…google “joe Six Pack”..you should read before you think because what you think is not what it means….
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 4, 2008, 12:49 am 12:49 am
Main Entry: Joe Six–Pack
Function: noun
Etymology: from the stereotype of a six-pack of beer as a workingman’s drink
Date: 1975
: an ordinary man ; specifically : a blue-collar worker
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 4, 2008, 12:50 am 12:50 am
This is just one example as to why Palin keeps referring to “Russia’s proximity to Alaska”.
To the obnoxious Catie Curic, Campbell Brown, and the rest of the media clowns:
Have you understood yet what Governor Palin was trying to tell you – idiots – when she made the comment about Russia’s Putin peaking into our airspace?
Read on media partisan morons…(and this below is NOT an isolated incident, trust me).
Russia bombers get NATO escort near Alaska:
Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:51am EDT
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSL2659163020080326?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews
Posted by: Natasha | October 4, 2008, 12:50 am 12:50 am
DLM wrote: “NEVER OBAMA….God this country would suffer…and I would count the days until the next terriorist attack on our soil”
—————————————
Obama will be having tea with the terrorists.
Posted by: Natasha | October 4, 2008, 12:54 am 12:54 am
and these are my six children:
Brystol
Track
Willow
Trig
Piper and
Nato.
Kids, say hi!
LOL!
Posted by: GIGI | October 4, 2008, 12:57 am 12:57 am
Posted by: DB ..McCain does have his work cut out for him…ask anyone of TV news if polls matter, and they will tell you they do because they need to sell air time..ask any one that is a political science major or with half a brain, and they can explain to you why polls don’t mean squat.
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 4, 2008, 12:57 am 12:57 am
To the obnoxious Catie Curic, Campbell Brown, and the rest of the media clowns:
Have you understood yet what Governor Palin was trying to tell you – idiots – when she made the comment about Russia’s Putin peaking into our airspace?
Posted by: Natasha | Oct 4, 2008 12:50:59 AM
OOOOOOH that’s what she meant!!
Thanks for clearing it up for the “meant-to-say” campaign. I’m switching my vote right now.
Posted by: McPalin | October 4, 2008, 12:57 am 12:57 am
“Voting for Palin because she is a woman is no way to vote. Stupid is as stupid does I guess.
Posted by: S Adams | Oct 3, 2008 5:31:20 PM”
Perhaps you should tell the same thing to the blacks who are voting for Barky because he’s kind-of-black.
Posted by: Sharon | October 4, 2008, 12:58 am 12:58 am
Gigi –
I am voting for McCain because Obama is dumb as a bag of rocks and is a racist and liar too boot. All of which makes him eminently unqualified to be president.
If that sounds partisan to you, so be it.
Please remember to wipe that kool-aid stain from around your lips before you go to bed.
PUMA! McCain/Palin 2008 – In lieu of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.
“No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party which ignores her sex.” – Susan B. Anthony
Posted by: LeeLee07 | October 4, 2008, 12:59 am 12:59 am
Concerned – The tragedy is that you libs put out so much garbage and interpret it as “FACTUAL.” What’s worse …. is that you even begin to believe the stuff!! Bottom line is that Obama is for hope and change, but -THAT’S ALL, THAT’S IT, NOTHING MORE. JUST GOBBLEDEGOOK POLITICAL TALK. HOPE AND CHANGE? WHAT EXACTLY IS THAT? INCREASING THE SIZE OF THE FED BY TWENTY – THIRTY PERCENT…. TO SAVE US FROM OURSELVES?? OBAMA HAS PAPER THIN RESUME’, IDEAS THAT HAVE FAILED IN EUROPE AND CANADA, AND A TRAINLOAD FULL OF BAD BAGGAGE. OBAMA, TOGETHER WITH PELOSI AND REID IS A RECIPE FOR DISASTER!!!
Posted by: Temagami | October 4, 2008, 12:59 am 12:59 am
McCain pulled out of Michigan because he will not win the state and no reason to waste his time or money there…sounds smart to me…he did not need polls to tell him that..he needed to have some common sense and half a brain
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 4, 2008, 1:00 am 1:00 am
Natasha,
do you even know the definition of the word terrorist?
What would you consider a terrorist?
a member of the Klu Klux Klan, a Muslim Man from Maroc, or both?
Would you have tea with a person from Japan?
Can YOU see Russia from your backyard?
Then Senator McCain wants YOU to join his cabinet!
LOL
Posted by: GIGI | October 4, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am
ask any one that is a political science major or with half a brain, and they can explain to you why polls don’t mean squat.
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | Oct 4, 2008 12:57:25 AM
Then why isn’t McCain campaigning in California? I mean, if polls don’t mean anything, then he still has a chance to get all those west/northwest states. He should be competing in every state, not pulling out. I guess McCain has got it all wrong.
Posted by: DB | October 4, 2008, 1:03 am 1:03 am
Gigi –
I am voting for McCain because Obama is dumb as a bag of rocks and is a racist and liar too boot. All of which makes him eminently unqualified to be president.
If that sounds partisan to you, so be it.
Please remember to wipe that kool-aid stain from around your lips before you go to bed.
PUMA! McCain/Palin 2008 – In lieu of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.
“No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party which ignores her sex.” – Susan B. Anthony
Posted by: LeeLee07 | Oct 4, 2008 12:59:36 AM
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oh dear… what a connundrum. That’s the very reason I didn’t want to vote for Palin!
Thanks! I think I’m voting for Biden and the black dude.
Posted by: GIGI - gotta love a plan B ... gotta ignore a loser. | October 4, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am
Angry Black Democrat: wrote
“I am black, am not a racist and am not voting for Obama. Obama is going to have to be more than black
to get my vote and a whole lot of others. On the other hand, that is a nice thing for you, as an Obama
Supporter, and a member of the Unity, Change and Hope Party, to be saying to your fellow Americans
because they do not agree with you and Your Messiah. We are all Americans and we have the right to
vote for whom we want to without being called racist or an idiot. You need to grow up.”
******************************************************
Its obvious “Angry Black Democrat” is nothing more than a pathetic attention whore.
No where on any blog, forum, message board or any other form of social commentary media
have I EVER said I’m voting for Obama because he’s black. I’m voting for Obama because
I think change is needed, I believe we need a new administration that differs from the failed Republican
rule of the pass 8 years, and mainly because Obama/Biden is by far the better choice.
As far as your statement “Americans have the right to vote for whom we want” I could’nt agree more.
You do indeed have that right, no matter how moronic, ignorant and idiotic that choice may be.
I also dont believe Obama is The Messiah, I believe he’s clearly the best choice BOTTOMLINE.
I still believe that most McCain/Palin supporters are idiots and racist and I gathered that opinion
from the anti Obama/Biden comments I’ve read here and on several other blogs like this these past few months.
FYI
I’ve voted for several white men all my life without blinking an eye, in all phases of politics, from Congressmen, Aldermen
Judges, Mayors, Senators, Governors and Presidents. Every time I voted for whoever I felt issues directly affected my life
or whom I thought was the better choice to lead. This election is no different and to vote against a candidate strictly because
you’re bitter that he beat out a candidate you supported, or because he’s African American is racist and/or downright ignorant.
Our future, and the future of America is much too important to tolerate such ignorance
Posted by: Anti-Idiot | October 4, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am
– HE WAR AGAINST TERRORISM IS SOMETHING THAT NO COUNTRY HAS HAD TO PLAN FOR BEFORE –
That is because there is no such thing as a ‘war against terrorism’. Terrorism is a tactic, and one that has existed for thousands of years. Your statement is just a sound bite that has been thrown about to try and get people to support the invasion of foreign countries looking for individual terrorists, provoked or not.
Do yourself a favor, and read this:
http://www.rand.org/pubs/testimonies/CT314/index.html
It is a study by the RAND group given as congressional testimony, and is a historical analysis on terrorist groups (over 600 of them) and how they were removed. Perhaps your perspective will change.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 4, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am
Katie Curic gets on TV and tells you libs that Obama is leading 46% – 41% in the pools and you guys act like she is GOD….lord help you all..are you serious…turn off your TV’s, burn your newspapers until Nov. 5th…use common sense and vote fort who “you” think is the best person for the job…not because Whoopi Goldberg hates Palin and Katie Curic is trying to save her job. you can’t be that stupid, or can you?
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 4, 2008, 1:05 am 1:05 am
McCain pulled out of Michigan because he will not win the state and no reason to waste his time or money there…sounds smart to me…he did not need polls to tell him that..he needed to have some common sense and half a brain
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | Oct 4, 2008 1:00:38 AM
Why’d he even start if he knew he wasn’t going to win there? What prompted him to pull out? A sudden thought?
Posted by: DB | October 4, 2008, 1:06 am 1:06 am
Senator Hillary Clinton
and
Governor Sarah Palin
have absolutely nothing in common. Other than the fact that they both are females.
nothing
nada
zilch
0.00
;-)
Posted by: GIGI - oh and talking of dumb as... | October 4, 2008, 1:06 am 1:06 am
To the media morons and all the left-wing-socialists-marxists Obama supporters:
Just do a Google search with keywords:
NATO+ALASKA+RUSSIAN+BOMBERS
Now, perhaps the media clowns can shut-up and stop making fun of Palin’s remarks about Russia’s Putin peaking into our airspace near Alaska.
Posted by: Natasha | October 4, 2008, 1:09 am 1:09 am
LeeLee07, That’s a Ditto!!!! McCain/Palin cause DNC is allin’!
Posted by: Voted Hillary in Ohio | October 4, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am
ask any one that is a political science major or with half a brain, and they can explain to you why polls don’t mean squat.
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | Oct 4, 2008 12:57:25 AM
Then why isn’t McCain campaigning in California? I mean, if polls don’t mean anything, then he still has a chance to get all those west/northwest states. He should be competing in every state, not pulling out. I guess McCain has got it all wrong.
Posted by: DB | Oct 4, 2008 1:03:35 AM
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heck… I am a Poly Sci major.
And I am sure as hell not making such an irreverent affirmation.
Didn’t ya’ll hate us “political elites” ? what now they need us?
(comment NOT directed at DB)
Posted by: GIGI | October 4, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am
To the media morons and all the left-wing-socialists-marxists Obama supporters:
Just do a Google search with keywords:
NATO+ALASKA+RUSSIAN+BOMBERS
Now, perhaps the media clowns can shut-up and stop making fun of Palin’s remarks about Russia’s Putin peaking into our airspace near Alaska.
Posted by: Natasha | Oct 4, 2008 1:09:19 AM
————————
she is serious?
Posted by: GIGI | October 4, 2008, 1:11 am 1:11 am
** HOPE AND CHANGE? WHAT EXACTLY IS THAT? **
Go look for yourself:
http://thomas.loc.gov/
Search on bills introduced by both McCain and Obama (and Biden if you like)
Posted by: Concerned American | October 4, 2008, 1:12 am 1:12 am
it wasn’t a stupid ABC poll that did it..it was knowing that he did not have a chance…don’t see anyone in California or New York campaigning, do you? McCain took a chance in Mich…did not work out…kinda makes you think he is smarter than you give him credit, eh?
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 4, 2008, 1:12 am 1:12 am
“oh dear… what a connundrum. That’s the very reason I didn’t want to vote for Palin!
Thanks! I think I’m voting for Biden and the black dude.”
Yeah, Gigi, with all that kool-aid around your lips, I kinda thought you were. You do know that Palin is more qualified to be president than that ½ black dude you are voting for, right?
You have some kool-aid on your blouse too.
(snicker!)
PUMA! McCain/Palin 2008 – In lieu of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.
“No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party which ignores her sex.” – Susan B. Anthony
Posted by: LeeLee07 | October 4, 2008, 1:15 am 1:15 am
vote fort who “you” think is the best person for the job…not because Whoopi Goldberg hates Palin and Katie Curic is trying to save her job. you can’t be that stupid, or can you?
Well you’ve gotta get your facts from somewhere. Newspaper, TV, Internet research, Radio, even Fox News. How else do you know anything? Word of mouth? Or does everyone have time to go to the congressional library? Especially the fresh new college voters who were raised in different, non-racial, non-hate times than many repubs. They want something that will secure their futures, not pay off older voters social security and retirement. At least that’s what I hear from campuses. Young voter turnout will be strong, mainly because of online activity.
Posted by: YoYoMa | October 4, 2008, 1:16 am 1:16 am
To uneducated and geopolitically inept left-wing-liberals:
If you think that Sarah Palin as the Governor of Alaska – a state that is only 1.5 miles away from the Russian border – is NOT in the loop of NATO ACT such as this one below – either you are really naive or you must be smoking something funny!!
May 16, 2008
ACT and JFCOM host Joint Forces Reserve Orientation Course – videocast
VIDEOCAST
http://www.act.nato.int/media/5-Multimedia/Vidcasts/080514jfroc.wmv
For a more information regarding ACT:
NATO ALLIED COMMAND TRANSFORMATION
http://www.act.nato.int/
NATO ACT Multimedia Library
http://www.act.nato.int/content.asp?pageid=520
Posted by: Natasha | October 4, 2008, 1:16 am 1:16 am
Google search…
Results 1 – 10 of about 53,000 for NATO ALASKA RUSSIAN BOMBERS
Just one of the “eye catching” items about which Americans are clueless. We have fallen asleep a long time ago because the liberal media simply does NOT want the voters to know – they do NOT want McCain to use it as a campaign talking point, you know…(they think that we are stupid)
There you have it…
NATO fighters again accompany Russian bombers near Alaska
RIA Novosti
09/04/2008 12:11 MOSCOW, April 9 (RIA Novosti) – NATO fighters accompanied Russian Tu-95 Bear strategic bombers on a regular strategic patrol flight on Wednesday, a Russian Air Force spokesman said.
Four Bear bombers and four Il-78 aerial tankers conducted a patrol mission over the Arctic and the Pacific Ocean and performed aerial refueling, which is the second exercise of Russian bombers near Alaska in three weeks.
“During the flight over neutral waters near Alaska, the Russian planes were accompanied by NATO fighters,” Colonel Alexander Drobyshevsky said.
Interceptions of Russian combat aircraft by NATO fighters have been a common occurrence since Russia resumed strategic bomber patrol flights over the Pacific, Atlantic, and Arctic oceans last August, following an order signed by President Vladimir Putin.
Drobyshevsky reiterated that regular patrols of Russian strategic bombers do not pose a threat to other countries, and Russia always issues prior warnings of their patrols.
He said that the main purpose of these missions was to train pilots in instrument flight and aerial refueling.
Source:
Global Security
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2008/04/mil-080409-rianovosti04.htm
Posted by: Natasha | October 4, 2008, 1:20 am 1:20 am
polls are not scientific..impossible to even be within 10 pts …could go to a grocery store on a sat. and get 100 people to answer..go to the same grocery store on sunday, ask 100 people, and your poll will be completely different. sit outside a college football game wil lget you one result, sit ouside a churuch and get anotgher…if poolsters want a certain #, they wil ljust ask certtain types of people ..it’s all unpredictable…ask Harry Truman..he went to bed a loser.
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 4, 2008, 1:20 am 1:20 am
awwww… I remember the good ol’ days in the school yard when nerdy boys tried to “hit” on me by making stupid jokes. Who would have thought we’d both end up here today. Except, I’m mature and intelligent now.
SO anyways, It is preposterous to say that a woman with the absolut minimum required academic education can be more prepared to be president than someone with the Knowledge, Experience, and sponge-like attention for world issues like Barak Obama.
Did you know that at some point, both our leaders were in the same continent at the same time, and that life-altering circumstances that occured to each of them were fundamental in forging the very disntinct views we are being made to choose from?
I think that’s quite ironic.
Sarah Palin had amazingly reached her full intellectual potential at this very time as well.
;-)
Posted by: GIGI | October 4, 2008, 1:21 am 1:21 am
LeeLee07, That’s a Ditto!!!! McCain/Palin cause DNC is allin’!
*Posted by: Voted Hillary in Ohio | Oct 4, 2008 1:10:04 AM
That’s right. Sit around and think of things that rhyme. That’ll show us. Catchy slogans. My friends, that’s not change we can believe in. In the meantime, we have an election to win.
Posted by: SayItAintSoJoe | October 4, 2008, 1:22 am 1:22 am
** You do know that Palin is more qualified to be president than that ½ black dude you are voting for, right? **
By what criteria? Running of Wasilla or Gov of Alaska?
Then she is more qualified than McCain as well.
And don’t look now, but your racial underpinnings are showing :)
And Natasha, yup, you have convinced me, that Palin woman has more than enough foreign policy experience.. good thing we got her on watch up there in Alaska to keep them nasty ruskies out. I’ll sleep safer at night when she returns to her job in November so she can keep watching out for us up there.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 4, 2008, 1:23 am 1:23 am
Posted by: YoYoMa ….go research what your candidate has done in the past, what they say they will do in the future..a man’s actions are worth a 1000 words!!! Vote not for what they promise you, vote for keeping their promises…geez, no wonder you LIB’s can’t win an election. i do not need Katie Curic swaying me to vote her way…just shoot me if i’m that R E T A R D E D
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 4, 2008, 1:24 am 1:24 am
Wow – no one told me that the National Organization of Low Information and Purposefully Ignorant Voters was meeting here today.
I’m thinking the so-called Hillary supporters are actually republicans pretending. Any REAL Hillary supporter would be offended by the airhead, stereotypical cutsey Sarah Palin. No REAL woman could support an unprepared incompetent who relies on her sexuality (flirting & fake cutsey-pie behavior) to distract from her inadequacies. The wink & fake “you betcha” is enough to make any REAL hard working, intelligent, competent woman cringe. Tell me, can you imagine Hillary lowering herself to wink in a coquettish manner? The cheerleader had to have McCain protect her from Katie Couric for cripes sake! How can she possibly protect the country????? Ya’ll should be ashamed of yourselves!
Posted by: pam | October 4, 2008, 1:25 am 1:25 am
neverIdiotPalin ;; You say this :::This woman is the biggest embarrassment to womanhood I have seen in my 31 years.
a mother of 5 that is a governor of one of our states and she is an embarrassment to women?…..what kind of woman are you?…a mud wrestler?
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | Oct 3, 2008 8:12:39 PM
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I reckon she’s a person with a brain of her own.
and what the hell is wrong with mud wrestling?!
I’m telling you, these people are out to divide this country.
Posted by: GIGI | October 4, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am
** Vote not for what they promise you, vote for keeping their promises…geez, **
Yup, thats why I keep saying, go to the source:
http://thomas.loc.gov/
McCain: Military to the max
Obama: Helping Americans
The choice is clear.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 4, 2008, 1:31 am 1:31 am
GIGI..you got me there..i actually like mud wrestlers. what was i thinking?
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 4, 2008, 1:31 am 1:31 am
Wow – no one told me that the National Organization of Low Information and Purposefully Ignorant Voters was meeting here today.
I’m thinking the so-called Hillary supporters are actually republicans pretending. Any REAL Hillary supporter would be offended by the airhead, stereotypical cutsey Sarah Palin. No REAL woman could support an unprepared incompetent who relies on her sexuality (flirting & fake cutsey-pie behavior) to distract from her inadequacies. The wink & fake “you betcha” is enough to make any REAL hard working, intelligent, competent woman cringe. Tell me, can you imagine Hillary lowering herself to wink in a coquettish manner?————————-
lol! yes they are opening a new chapter
Politically Against Liberal Intelligence and Negroes
Posted by: GIGI | October 4, 2008, 1:32 am 1:32 am
I don’t mean to be insulting, but 20 years from now are a lot of these Hillary supporters going to be stuck in the past along with those who dreamt for decades of a Goldwater, McGovern, Wallace or Perot comeback? Speaking of Wallace, wouldn’t it be wild if Hillary ran as an independent? That would be an interesting choice on election day.
Hillary will be 68 four years from now, and of course, McCain’s age eight years from now. Some plays from the Democrat’s handbook?…”She’s too old.” “Her weak VP pick will be just a heartbeat away from the presidency.” “We can’t afford four more years of Obama’s failed Socialist policies.” “She voted for the war in Darfur before she was against it.” “She must think we’re pretty stupid if they think we’re going to vote for her just because she’s a woman.”
Will we get that, or will the media still be siding with Barack I or yet another Drowne’s Wooden image?
Posted by: Grand Old Party | October 4, 2008, 1:35 am 1:35 am
GIGI..you got me there..i actually like mud wrestlers. what was i thinking?
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | Oct 4, 2008 1:31:40 AM
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You almost KILLED poor Joe SixPack!
lol!
Posted by: GIGI | October 4, 2008, 1:35 am 1:35 am
i think an embarrassment to women is a little overboard. would be like me saying Obama is an embarrassment to men.. not going to go there.
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 4, 2008, 1:35 am 1:35 am
Posted by: GIGI ..almost doesn’t count in politics , does it?
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 4, 2008, 1:37 am 1:37 am
Oh but it is NOT lordhelpliberals
I can’t believe, of all women OF ALL WOMEN OUT THERE you gotta go and pick THE ONE who seriously (ohmygodmybrainhurts! so many thoughts at once!) has never had any previous knowledge of ANY other Supreme Court case other than RvW.
SO MANY WOMEN! SO MANYYYY!!!!!!
if you think that this is a similar situation, um. okiedokie.
Posted by: GIGI | October 4, 2008, 1:40 am 1:40 am
if you a very good hillary supporter then vote for mccain and let us see two well meaning americans compete in 2012 and not Obama.i supported hillary but now i am totally for palin both body and soul i will work for palin and i have been convincing some people in district to vote for palin and not the sweet tongued obama. but i will likely consider hillary 2012
Posted by: msm is too bias!!!!!!!! Palin is the answer | October 4, 2008, 1:42 am 1:42 am
Yeap, Obama bin Biden (The Naive)would also have you believe that Putin’s bombers are “just refueling” near US airspace – over Alaska “neutral” waters!
The question is, why we do not hear about this in the American media? Why is it that we have to go to Reuters, BBC, Deutsche Welle etc to find out? I have BBC World News (not to be confused with BBC America) and I hardly watch our 24 hour news for dummies American networks. They are pathetic – they do not tell us half of what is really going around the world. That is why half+ of the American voters are as naive as Obama bin Biden is about geopolitical issues.
Global Security
NATO fighters again accompany Russian bombers near Alaska
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2008/04/mil-080409-rianovosti04.htm
Russia bombers get NATO escort near Alaska:
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSL2659163020080326?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews
Posted by: Natasha | October 4, 2008, 1:42 am 1:42 am
ok…so her elevator does not go to the top floor..and there are times when her lightrs are on, butg no one is home…i will go that far, but, very v=few VP picks have been experienced for the job or the Pres. job going in…VP is a lerning as you go job…always has been..sad, but true…go back 40 years..Spiro Agnew, Dan Quayle. even Al Gore was a moron in 92. .(.i would say bill clinton, but you would only get mad at me)
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 4, 2008, 1:44 am 1:44 am
what? nothing counts in politics! lol NOTHING, nothing at all… you can do WHATEVER YOU WANT and you will be decreed a formidable running mate to a presidential nominee :)
bottomline for me. DON’T care about color, gender, religion, big town, small town, all over town…
I just can’t vote for a man who would do ANYTHING FOR HIS COUNTRY. Except allow a gay AMERICAN person help us fight our enemies.
Posted by: GIGI | October 4, 2008, 1:46 am 1:46 am
“Its obvious “Angry Black Democrat” is nothing more than a pathetic attention whore.
No where on any blog, forum, message board or any other form of social commentary media have I EVER said I’m voting for Obama because he’s black. I’m voting for Obama because I think change is needed, I believe we need a new administration that differs from the failed Republican rule of the pass 8 years, and mainly because Obama/Biden is by far the better choice.
As far as your statement “Americans have the right to vote for whom we want” I could’nt agree more.
You do indeed have that right, no matter how moronic, ignorant and idiotic that choice may be.
I also dont believe Obama is The Messiah, I believe he’s clearly the best choice BOTTOMLINE.
I still believe that most McCain/Palin supporters are idiots and racist and I gathered that opinion from the anti Obama/Biden comments I’ve read here and on several other blogs like this these past few months.
FYI
I’ve voted for several white men all my life without blinking an eye, in all phases of politics, from Congressmen, Aldermen
Judges, Mayors, Senators, Governors and Presidents. Every time I voted for whoever I felt issues directly affected my life
or whom I thought was the better choice to lead. This election is no different and to vote against a candidate strictly because
you’re bitter that he beat out a candidate you supported, or because he’s African American is racist and/or downright ignorant.
Our future, and the future of America is much too important to tolerate such ignorance”
@Anti-Idiot(Genius) -
Angry Black Democrat did not write that, I did – LeeLee07. You might want to apologize to Angry Black Democrat. Lol…
That said – you can believe what you want to about your Messiah. You should also afford others the same right to believe what they want to about their candidate of choice. If you have been reading these blogs, you should know that most of the racist and idiotic blogs have been posted by Obama supporters, like yourself.
We do not have to like Obama, support Obama or vote for Obama. When you accuse others of not voting for Obama because they are racist or idiots you leave it wide open for yourself to be viewed as racist and an idiot – because the only reason you are voting for Obama is because you, yourself, must not want to be considered as a racist or idiot by others who think like you.
You should not get p’oed at people because they realize the truth about Obama and refuse to vote for him. You also need to stop spewing hate and accept the fact that we have the right to disagree with you.
Like I told you before, Obama is going to have to be more than black and have a penis for me and others to vote for him. He is not qualified – the position of POTUS is clearly above his grade level.
Oh yeah, he did not “beat” anyone. Your boy cheated all the way. You know it and so do we.
However, Hillary Supporters are not bitter and have gotten “over it” and many of us are now voting for McCain/Palin. Our choice, our vote, our right.
May I suggest to you and others who think like you to stop being bitter, realize that a lot of Hillary Supporters are not mesmerized by Obama’s bs and for you all to just “get OVER it” because we are not changing our minds.
As far as being an “Attention Whore,” you are the one ranting on this thread.
ROFLMAO! Lolololol. :D
PUMA! McCain/Palin 2008 – In lieu of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.
“No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party which ignores her sex.” – Susan B. Anthony
Posted by: LeeLee07 | October 4, 2008, 1:46 am 1:46 am
Wow, I’m amazed you came back LordHelpLiberals, after the whooping you got earlier. Still can’t defend your candidates stance on the issues, but that would be hard for anyone to do. Oh wait, I remember, you won’t because you said they were all lies anyway.. nevermind.
Posted by: RedNeckBob | October 4, 2008, 1:47 am 1:47 am
I CAN DEFEND ANY ISSUE..I CAN’T GET YOU LIBS TO TALK ABOUT FACTS…I ASK A QUESTION AND YOU GO BACK TO Bush…REALLY HARD TO DEBATE AN ISSUE LIKE THAT..YOU GUYS ARE TOO DEFENSIVE AND DO TOO MUCH FINGER POINTING..HAVE YOU EVER DONE ANYTHIng Wrong…? JUST ONCE MAYBE? i CAN ADMIT OUR MISTAKES, CAN YOU?
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 4, 2008, 1:50 am 1:50 am
I think it’s sad that some people can’t and won’t look past color/gender and all the negativity and just listen to the candidates, do your own research and decide. Voting for someone just because you feel its time for a woman is ludicris, I’m all for a woman president BUT I want someone who I feel can actually run a country with knowledge,skills and ability. Sarah Palin is not the one. Also not voting for a man/woman of color because their not caucasian is ludicris. Vote on character and content and where they stand on the issues and hand. It’s definitely time for change for the whole nation. There is so much diversity today in ethnicity that on a census or job application many of us have to check other! People wake up and really smell the flowers and the coffee. Love one another/neighbor/co-worker and treat people with the same respect that you want. As the old saying goes God doesn’t like ugly. What goes around comes around. You reap what you sow. And last but not least What you do in the DARK always comes to light no matter what gender or race you are!
Posted by: Judith Mulkey | October 4, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am
@Hillary in Ohio -
Thanks! You are right, the DNC is ailing, but not as bad as they will be on Election Day :D
PUMA! McCain/Palin 2008 – In lieu of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.
“No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party which ignores her sex.” – Susan B. Anthony
Posted by: LeeLee07 | October 4, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am
Hillary has done so much for Obama, he better give her a cabinet position. She could have made it so much harder for him.
Posted by: rachel | October 4, 2008, 1:53 am 1:53 am
America will be in great danger voting for barack the whole America supremnacy will be lost in no time.America is in real danger and Obama will bury this country. Have you stopped to ask yourself why is most middle east islamic countries wanting Obama ?? if America makes this mistake, the net day Iran and Alqeuda and all muslim extimist will rejoice over America. This country is going to be doomed forever and this is a mistake America might never recover from and it will be toooooooooooooooooooooooooooo late. Ipray Americans get wiser and think and not depend on this useless media houses to bring America down
Posted by: msm is too bias!!!!!!!! Palin is the answer | October 4, 2008, 1:53 am 1:53 am
** The question is, why we do not hear about this in the American media? **
Because it is such a non-issue that only rabid Palin supporters think it is.. duh!
Watching russian planes don’t cut it when you use it to claim foreign policy experience.
Sitting on the foreign relations committee in the Senate does.
Don’t try to insult the intelligence of Americans.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 4, 2008, 1:53 am 1:53 am
GEEZ, How can we defend their issues when we don’t know what they are?…like the debate last night…when the reality check was done today, both Palin and Bi den did not have their facts right more so than not…Obama voted for this,.McCain voted for that…if you judged your pick from that last night, well..i have some swamp land
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 4, 2008, 1:55 am 1:55 am
GIGI wrote: “Blah blah blah… has never had any previous knowledge of ANY other Supreme Court case other than RvW.”
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Barack Hussein Obama said that the US has 57 states! You have not heard about it?! Oh, I know…the darn media did not play Obama’s “57 state gaffe” as often as the played the Catie-Shrill-Curic interview with Palin.
Btw, it is Barack Hussein Obama who is running for President (of the… 57 states – ahahahaha) – NOT Palin!
Posted by: Natasha | October 4, 2008, 2:00 am 2:00 am
this is a fact..Obama is running a campaign against Bush and dragging MCain into it…Biden can’t touch Palin, so the liberal press is doing the dirty work for him. McCain is caught up in somethign he probably should not be and poor Palin is only guilty of saying yes to McCain when asked to run with him…issues, heck you wouldn’t know an issue if there even was one…IS THERE AN ISSUE? i don’t waqnt to vote for MccAIN, butg you liberals give me no choice…give me an alternative, i’m begging you..but, not Gore, Kerry of Obama….please someone eles , another option for me…
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 4, 2008, 2:01 am 2:01 am
America will be in great danger voting for barack the whole America supremnacy will be lost in no time.America is in real danger and Obama will bury this country. Have you stopped to ask yourself why is most middle east islamic countries wanting Obama ?? if America makes this mistake, the next day Iran and Alqeuda and all muslim extremist will rejoice over America. This country is going to be doomed forever and this is a mistake America might never recover from and it will be toooooooooooooooooooooooooooo late. I pray Americans get wiser and think and not follow this useless media houses to bring America down.
Posted by: msm is too bias!!!!!!!! Palin is the answer | October 4, 2008, 2:01 am 2:01 am
** .I CAN’T GET YOU LIBS TO TALK ABOUT FACTS…I ASK A QUESTION AND YOU GO BACK TO Bush…REALLY HARD TO DEBATE AN ISSUE LIKE THAT. **
I believe it has already been pointed out, more than once, that you cannot debate facts. A fact is a fact, period.
Try this one:
McCain has missed more votes in the 110th Congress than any other senator.. over 64% of them.
Care to debate that one?
Or how about this..
Fact: Obama has voted more often in the 110th Congress than McCain.
You see.. you cannot debate those.. they are facts, and anyone with half a brain knows that. Now, lets try this:
Fact: McCain supports and says he will implement a “Trickle Down” taxation policy, giving huge tax cuts to the wealthy and very little or none to the low and middle class.
Care to take that one on? Or is it just a lie?
Posted by: Concerned American | October 4, 2008, 2:02 am 2:02 am
I CAN DEFEND ANY ISSUE..I CAN’T GET YOU LIBS TO TALK ABOUT FACTS…I ASK A QUESTION AND YOU GO BACK TO Bush…REALLY HARD TO DEBATE AN ISSUE LIKE THAT..YOU GUYS ARE TOO DEFENSIVE AND DO TOO MUCH FINGER POINTING..HAVE YOU EVER DONE ANYTHIng Wrong…? JUST ONCE MAYBE? i CAN ADMIT OUR MISTAKES, CAN YOU?
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | Oct 4, 2008 1:50:02 AM
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LOL
I would love to make you run like all the other “Republicans” before you..
But I gotta go. Nikki Sixx’s room just caught on fire.
Darn it.
Posted by: gigi | October 4, 2008, 2:03 am 2:03 am
McCain has missed more votes in the 110th Congress than any other senator.. over 64% of them.
Care to debate that one?
can’t debate that..it’s a fact
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 4, 2008, 2:03 am 2:03 am
gigi..save yourself..run woman , run !!!
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 4, 2008, 2:05 am 2:05 am
** Barack Hussein Obama said that the US has 57 states! You have not heard about it?! **
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/57states.asp
Posted by: Concerned American | October 4, 2008, 2:06 am 2:06 am
Fact: McCain supports and says he will implement a “Trickle Down” taxation policy, giving huge tax cuts to the wealthy and very little or none to the low and middle class.
Care to take that one on? Or is it just a lie?
can’t debate this one either…i agree with you..a tax plan that will work give me something i don’t agree with you on
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 4, 2008, 2:07 am 2:07 am
** You do know that Palin is more qualified to be president than that ½ black dude you are voting for, right? **
By what criteria? Running of Wasilla or Gov of Alaska?
Then she is more qualified than McCain as well.
And don’t look now, but your racial underpinnings are showing :)
And Natasha, yup, you have convinced me, that Palin woman has more than enough foreign policy experience.. good thing we got her on watch up there in Alaska to keep them nasty ruskies out. I’ll sleep safer at night when she returns to her job in November so she can keep watching out for us up there.
Posted by: Concerned American | Oct 4, 2008 1:23:14 AM”
Concerned American – Why don’t you go find Obama’s senatorial records, educational records, and medical records and let us not forget that pesky, elusive REAL birth certificate?
Obama has not done one damn thing except ensure that some poor tenants had “natural”air conditioning for three months in the dead of a Chicago winter (while he pocketed the repair money) and that some late term aborted babies had the misfortune to live out the rest of their lives in a stainless steel bowl in some hospital’s utility room. I am Pro-Choice, but I really can’t get with that.
As far as qualifications, Stuttering Sam (otherwise known as that hot mess of lies that is Obama), well he has none, except reading a teleprompter and stealing other peoples political stances, speeches and votes.
My racial underpinnings that are showing, they are black, just like the rest of me – what are your “racial underpinnings” showing?
Think about it.
PUMA! McCain/Palin 2008 – In lieu of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.
“No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party which ignores her sex.” – Susan B. Anthony
Posted by: LeeLee07 | October 4, 2008, 2:09 am 2:09 am
question for you/….why don’t you liberals try selling me on your candidate instead of bashing mine?…is that your strategy? or is it because it’s much easier to do? I would much rather try to convince you on what my man would do to get your vote than tell you how much of an idiot yours is.
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 4, 2008, 2:10 am 2:10 am
lol
et tut john mccain?
ConcernedAmerican is my new hero.
lordhelpliberals is my new palin
pitbull with lipstick? nah, just a bully with empty words.
Posted by: GIGI | October 4, 2008, 2:13 am 2:13 am
Concerned American wrote: “Because it is such a non-issue that only rabid Palin supporters think it is.. duh!
Watching russian planes don’t cut it when you use it to claim foreign policy experience.Sitting on the foreign relations committee in the Senate does.
Don’t try to insult the intelligence of Americans.”
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You just proved that you are as naive as Barack Hussein Obama! Perhaps the first time you heard NATO ACT is here and I doubt if you even read anything to learn about it. In this case it is natural that you would consider it as a non-issue.
Barack Hussein Obama did not think that the Russian invasion of Georgia was not an issue either until he gor blasted in the media!
Americans are insulted by Barack Hussein Obama’s naivete and ignorance. He thinks that making a speech at the Branderburg Gate in Berlin – how arrogant – gives him national security credentials! Ahahaha!
Posted by: Natasha | October 4, 2008, 2:14 am 2:14 am
Concerned American | ..anotrher one…this on is important to me. a couple months back, your man Biden said that Obama was not experienced enough to be commander in chief…what , if anything, has changed since then?…did Obama take an Internet course?
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 4, 2008, 2:16 am 2:16 am
GIGI..want to go around for a couple rounds? i will take Palins side or Bush’s , for that matter,..let it rip
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 4, 2008, 2:17 am 2:17 am
natasha, don’t verge off from the comment.
Concerned American said that watching planes hardly counts as foreign affair experience.
Care to address THAT with a BIT of coherence?
Palin-Nation… it’s catching.
Posted by: Gigi | October 4, 2008, 2:17 am 2:17 am
ah what the hell!… they are in Guadalajara, nothing I can do right now…
“McCain has said he would never, ever sign a bill that had an earmark.
“I will veto every bill with earmarks, until the Congress stops sending bills with earmarks,” he said in a speech in April.
At the Republican National Convention, he put it this way: ‘The first big-spending, pork-barrel earmark bill that comes across my desk, I will veto it. I will make them famous, and you will know their names. You will know their names.”
It got huge applause.
But on Wednesday — in his first vote in months — McCain voted for earmarks.
In an attempt to woo recalcitrant House Republicans to vote for the $700 billion economic bailout bill, senators loaded it up with earmarks, including $2 million in tax breaks for companies that make wooden arrows for children and millions for U.S. wool producers and auto racetrack owners.
McCain had warned against such a thing happening. In a speech in Michigan before the vote, he said: “It is completely unacceptable for any kind of earmarks to be included in this bill. It would be outrageous for legislators and lobbyists to pack this rescue plan with
taxpayer money for favored companies. This simply cannot happen.”
It did. And he voted for it anyway.”
Care to explain to me how this is not the maniobre of a STRAIGHT UP SPLIT PERSONALITY LOCO?
Posted by: GIGI | October 4, 2008, 2:19 am 2:19 am
** I CAN DEFEND ANY ISSUE.. **
Apparently not.. you completely ignored your candidates stance on taxes I mentioned. That is twice now.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 4, 2008, 2:20 am 2:20 am
bully?..geez, read all of my comments…show me one where i bashed Obama, McCain Biden or Palin…you can’t..not my style…I am a Ronald Reagan card carrying republican conservative that judges someone on actions, not words.. I do not have much tolerance for blatant ignorance or stupidity..too many of you liberals make it way too easy for me to get confused.
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 4, 2008, 2:22 am 2:22 am
i agreed with you on McCain tax stand..what do you want me to do..argue against my own beliefs..i can’t do that.
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 4, 2008, 2:23 am 2:23 am
Concerned American | ..anotrher one…this on is important to me. a couple months back, your man Biden said that Obama was not experienced enough to be commander in chief…what , if anything, has changed since then?…did Obama take an Internet course?
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | Oct 4, 2008 2:16:12 AM
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NO, but Biden did.
The fact that people want CHANGE is omnius, otherwise McCain would not have swiped the concept. It is understandable that a an experienced and seasoned politician would take that stand. But it is expected of an honorable person to back track it if is substantiated (pardon my horrible spelling)
I personally dislike the phrase “flip flop” in a negative context. I live in Miami, I don’t own any real shoes.
I don’t mind for the people who represent me share in the idea that we as humans are not perfect, and that we GROW and that our oppinion is directly influenced by our KNOWLEDGE which HOPEFULLY (governor Palin) increases DAILY. A man who changes his mind based on new information available to him is NOT a flip-floper, that man is an innovator.
and to reach world peace, thank you!
Posted by: GIGI - my fellow Americans, heck... my fellow elitists | October 4, 2008, 2:25 am 2:25 am
Natasha wrote: We won’t raise a white flag of surrender! (or words to that effect) The directed us to the following site about American Military History.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6370539579217643597&hl=en
This is a stirring, well put together video accompanied by Tchaikovsky’s 1812 Overture. This overture has been used frequently to celebrate the 4th of July and other patriotic American holidays. It is a wonderful composition. What most people do not realize is that it was written to celebrate the victory of the Russians over an invading enemy and at the conclusion incorporates the bells of the churches of Moscow, canons firing, and the Russian National Anthem. It celebrates the victory in 1812. Many Americans have believed it to celebrate the War of 1812 (the year the British invaded the USA in an attempt to take us back) which ended a few years later with the British defeat. It was during that war that Francis Scott Key (while being held on a British vessel in the harbor outside Baltimore) penned The Star Spangled Banner upon rising the next morning and seeing that our flag was still flying over the fort that was the first line of defense for Baltimore—the British had not been able to take the fort. This did not become our National Anthem until around 1930 (before that we had no official anthem). While the 1812 Overture has nothing to do with American Military History it certainly inspires strong patriotic feelings because Tchaikovsky was a Russian patriot.
Posted by: George | October 4, 2008, 2:25 am 2:25 am
Fact: McCain supports and says he will implement a “Trickle Down” taxation policy, giving huge tax cuts to the wealthy and very little or none to the low and middle class.
you said the above…i agree with you..it is his tax plan…what else do you want me to say?… it is a tax plan that will work..but, you do kinda stretch it when you say “huge Tax cut” i don’t agree with huge…but, it is a tax cut.
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 4, 2008, 2:27 am 2:27 am
** can’t debate this one either…i agree with you..a tax plan that will work give me something i don’t agree with you on **
Ok, I don’t agree that trickle down tax policies work. They haven’t in the past, and they are not working now.
Hoover coined the term when he first implemented it and it was one of the major reasons for the great depression.
Regan tried it, and during his term raised the deficit from just under $1 trillion to over $2.6 trillion, more than all the previous presidents before him combined.
Bush took a balanced budget and federal surplus when he entered office, cut taxes, and in his first year wound up raising the deficit by $133 billion and has since set the record for the highest single year increase in the deficit in history, twice. And the events of the past few weeks have yet to be counted.
How can you say it is a tax plan that works?
Posted by: Concerned American | October 4, 2008, 2:27 am 2:27 am
GIGI…you almost sold me
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 4, 2008, 2:28 am 2:28 am
I forgot to mention at the end of what I wrote about the 1812 Overture and the Star Spangled Banner that I am a patriotic, Christian, gay, Democrat and I’m voting for Obama.
Posted by: George | October 4, 2008, 2:29 am 2:29 am
And ThANK YOU Natasha, for that eloquent and completely coherent response in which you address the issue you yourself KEEP BRINGING UP for some god-awful reason…
oh wait…
HEY LET ME ASK you or anyone who would be interested in answering even though it might show what racist ignorants you are, what’s so wrong with a little exotic in one’s name?
eh? NATASHA?
Because, see… true story, My younger brother’s name is Fidel. And guess whats’ my maiden name? oh yeah…
Does that make my brother, a bad person?
really? one’s NAME?
Posted by: GIGI | October 4, 2008, 2:31 am 2:31 am
because it will be the wealthy that will take their tax cuts and invest it back into the economy… I work for a couple very rich people,,,i doin’t work for poor people or middle class…if you put my rich company owners out of business, well, then i am out of business..will you hire me? if you make al lof the rich people pay more taxes so that you can give more poor people welfare and food stamps..well, good luck .
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 4, 2008, 2:32 am 2:32 am
GIGI…you almost sold me
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | Oct 4, 2008 2:28:49 AM
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Baby but I wanna buy you…
OK this could be fun. HOW would you have answered Katie Couric’s 700billion dollar question?
(from the top of my head) – woouldn’t it be better to spend 700billion to help out the poor, main street, healthcare etc etc… HOW would it not be better?
Posted by: GIGI | October 4, 2008, 2:33 am 2:33 am
GIGI…you almost sold me
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | Oct 4, 2008 2:28:49 AM
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Baby but I wanna buy you…
OK this could be fun. HOW would you have answered Katie Couric’s 700billion dollar question?
(from the top of my head) – woouldn’t it be better to spend 700billion to help out the poor, main street, healthcare etc etc… HOW would it not be better?
Posted by: GIGI | October 4, 2008, 2:33 am 2:33 am
What is interesting about the Reagan tax cuts and the Bush tax cuts is the fact that each time my tax bill went up $2000. My salary at the time of REagan was $26,000 a year as a teacher. For the Bush cuts my salary was $56,000 and still a teacher. I never saw a tax cut either time.
Posted by: George | October 4, 2008, 2:34 am 2:34 am
I forgot to mention at the end of what I wrote about the 1812 Overture and the Star Spangled Banner that I am a patriotic, Christian, gay, Democrat and I’m voting for Obama.
Posted by: George | Oct 4, 2008 2:29:22 AM
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Right on!
Hey that was some interesting reading. Thanks!
Posted by: Gigi | October 4, 2008, 2:37 am 2:37 am
where is it written that the rich “have ” to help the poor?…i take care of my family,. you uld take care of yours. i feed my kids first, and when i have money left over, i donate it to charities and feed the poor, not because you liberals demand it, but because i choose to. tax me more, i lay off workers and i donatre less to the unfortunate..so you force the goivt. to take care of you..should not be that way.
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 4, 2008, 2:38 am 2:38 am
Care to explain to me how this is not the maniobre of a STRAIGHT UP SPLIT PERSONALITY LOCO?
Posted by: GIGI
i can’t argue with you on this one…
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 4, 2008, 2:41 am 2:41 am
OK this could be fun. HOW would you have answered Katie Couric’s 700billion dollar question?
(from the top of my head) – woouldn’t it be better to spend 700billion to help out the poor, main street, healthcare etc etc… HOW would it not be better?
i don’t know if Katie said it, but it would be the best thing to do..crazy move to bail them out.
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 4, 2008, 2:43 am 2:43 am
can i ask you aBOUT A Katie question with Palin?..you seem intelligent, you may really answer me on how you feel…i’m taking a chance.
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 4, 2008, 2:44 am 2:44 am
where is it written that the rich “have ” to help the poor?…i take care of my family,. you uld take care of yours. i feed my kids first, and when i have money left over, i donate it to charities and feed the poor, not because you liberals demand it, but because i choose to. tax me more, i lay off workers and i donatre less to the unfortunate..so you force the goivt. to take care of you..should not be that way.
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | Oct 4, 2008 2:38:42 AM
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who?
whatev, election talk. we all none of these will see the light of day.
real issues:
health care
roadways
national security
education
elderly
national invesment
these are the issues I care about.
Posted by: GIGI | October 4, 2008, 2:47 am 2:47 am
boy, you give me four more kids, and half a degree in journalism and Palin and I are like, sisters.
(well I also would have to throw out the window years and years of trailing on my fathers trips through countless countries, and my travels with my last employer, two languates, the fact taht I suscribe to at least four periodicals, two fashion mags, one entertaiment and two Travel magz… um, that I’ve actually MET at least ten ambassadors, and will soon be related by marriage with a vice president hopeful of an island nation, ohgood god that woman and I have NOTHING IN COMMON!)
sure! SHOOT! lol
Posted by: GIGI | October 4, 2008, 2:50 am 2:50 am
ok..here is your chance to be human..surprise me……i’m serious…Katie Couric asked Palin if she believed in abortion..Palin said she did not…Palin said, i believe that life starts at conception..Katie: so, do you believe in the morning after pill? palin: , i do not believe in abortion and believe that life starts at conception.,,Katie: so, what you are telling me is that you don’t believe in the morning after bill..Palin: i believe what a woman does is her business, but i don’t believe in abortions…Katie: OK, let me get this straight…you are telling me that you do not believe in the morning after pill…now, my question to you..do you actually not believe that they are trying their best to bait her?..seriously, i am deaf, dumb and blind and i dont’ get it.
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 4, 2008, 2:51 am 2:51 am
boy, you give me four more kids, and half a degree in journalism and Palin and I are like, sisters.
i would, but i’m fixed !!!
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 4, 2008, 2:54 am 2:54 am
** you do kinda stretch it when you say “huge Tax cut” i don’t agree with huge…but, it is a tax cut. **
and
** because it will be the wealthy that will take their tax cuts and invest it back into the economy.. **
That is the theory, but it has not worked yet, as otherwise the deficit would not continue to rise. “invest it back into the economy” means revenue to offset the tax cuts.. hasn’t happened yet, even though it’s been tried over and over again.
As for the size of the tax cuts, according to analysis by the tax policy center, using the numbers John McCain says he will implement:
“Senator McCain’s tax cuts would primarily benefit those with very high incomes, almost all of whom would receive large tax cuts that would, on average, raise their after-tax incomes by more than twice the average for all households. Many fewer households at the bottom of the income distribution would get tax cuts and those tax cuts would be small as a share of after-tax income.”
** if you put my rich company owners out of business, well, then i am out of business.. **
So are you saying that if they don’t get their tax cuts, you will be out of a job? Did you work for them when Clinton was in office?
Posted by: Concerned American | October 4, 2008, 2:58 am 2:58 am
–( if you make al lof the rich people pay more taxes so that you can give more poor people welfare and food stamps..well, good luck . )–
Those taxes would go towards paying off government spending and the deficit. We are already paying for welfare and food stamps, and will continue to do so under McCain and Obama regardless. You apparently have as much economic knowledge as McCain, none.
Posted by: jr1221 | October 4, 2008, 3:03 am 3:03 am
Palin lost the debate last night. She skirted around issues, didn’t answer the majority, and was wrong on the rest. Yes, she’s a good debator…but that is not a qualification for a VP.
The only thing I got out of the debate was that my choice was the right one from the start…Obama/Biden.
I am just amazed at the number of people on here who STILL have not done their research…and believe what they hear instead of checking it for themselves.
McCain/Palin has proven to be a disaster – spouting lies, misleading, untruthful…but Christian? Where I come from, Christians do not lie…
Posted by: Nancy D | October 4, 2008, 3:03 am 3:03 am
I can very firmly answer this question with no problem. I believe Katie Couric is trying to EXPOSE Palin’s beliefs. Katie and many other (female) reporters have some tought shoes to fill. We’ve had other female reporters interview foreign mandataries and made them fess up about personal and quite intimate details.
And now here we go and we are being witnesses to this highly controlled first woman on a republican ticket circumstance and of course the gender card is just as (if not more delicate) than the race card issue. All the Charlies and the Bobs and the Harry’s in teh world would NOT have the same opportunity that Katie was given. Because Katie and Sarah are seeing eye to eye. Sarah can’t use that smirk-turned-mock attitude with Katie. She’s got no weapons that Katie does not have. which allows us to see Sarah Palin as a PERSON, and not as a WOMAN.
What you are experiencing, my friend, is a weird, but very normal and quite prolific syndrome. It’s the same thing that makes you apologize to your daughter after she disobeys you, misbehaves etc…
YES, it is hard to swallow strong women. This is not the role we are used to seeing a woman in. So we MUST be able to soften that blow (with good looks, eh Hillary?)
SO I invite you and all others to STOP contradicting youselves. Because it is that very demeanor that Sarah Palin used against Charlie, against Joe and against Obama. However, if Katie used it… well it’s just awful isn’t it?
The phrase I used at the beginning of this answer, it’s the phrase Katie Couric was looking for. It’s phrase I can use, and it’s a phrase I want to hear my future president to be able to use. Sarah failed me by dodging the answer, thus creating the very game that we are critizicing Katie for.
IF she truly cannot deal with the media, like many Republicans are asserting. I sincerely doubt she can deal with people like the Grand Ayatollah (forget Mahmoud! that’s nothing!) the true supreme leader of Iran.
Posted by: GIGI | October 4, 2008, 3:04 am 3:04 am
Concerned American …i am no better, no worse off now than i was when Nixon was president…i agree, that it goes in cycles and not everyone o=is like that…people in Mich. lose their houses because they are out of work..but, those people in Louisiana that lost their house in a hurricane , still lost their house….things happen…i don’t care if Obama, McCain or palin is president..it is what it is and we need to take some responsibility for our own lives when possible and stop blaming Presidents..anyone in their right mind knows that it boils down to congress not doing what’s right and only doing what’s best for congress…i would bet my first born and my dog that this country would get back on it’s feet without a president if congress would stop fighting with each other and do what’s right.
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 4, 2008, 3:04 am 3:04 am
gigi…you win !! well done
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 4, 2008, 3:06 am 3:06 am
Americans have traditionally believed that with privilege comes responsibility. A first generation Swiss immigrant recently wrote in the Dallas paper that that was what we practiced during WWII. The high end tax rate was 70%, he said. I was born in 1939, but I remember that during the war we had black outs when the sirens went off (all lights out, cars pulled over and parked, etc.) until the all clear was sounded (these were drills—fortunately there never was an air attack, but we prepared for that eventuality). Hospitals and schools had special shades on windows that did not allow light to filter out. Gasoline was rationed, tin cans were saved, and we took ration books to the store for certain food stuffs. In 1943 no copper pennies were minted. We were at war and we all knew it. My uncle is buried in France. We saw flags with stars hanging in the front windows of homes in the neighbor hood. We were at war and we all knew it—we saw it in the news reels at the movie theatre—at school we bought stamps for Savings Bonds for the war effort—-we had victory gardens in our back yards. WE were at war and we all knew it because we were all (men, women, and children) involved in some way—it was not “business as usual.” God Bless America!
America! America!
God mend thine ev’ry flaw,
Confirm thy soul in self-control,
Thy liberty in law.
America! America!
May God thy gold refine
Till all success be nobleness,
And ev’ry gain divine.
America! America!
God shed his grace on thee,
And crown thy good with brotherhood
From sea to shining sea.
This patriotic American is voting for Obama.
Posted by: George | October 4, 2008, 3:06 am 3:06 am
boy, you give me four more kids, and half a degree in journalism and Palin and I are like, sisters.
i would, but i’m fixed !!!
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | Oct 4, 2008 2:54:45 AM
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LOL
Posted by: GIGI | October 4, 2008, 3:07 am 3:07 am
Hear me roar…5:51….
Vote vagina…..you got that right….98% of blacks are voting black….see any difference? If 98% of women voted for the woman this would be over now. However, blacks are 14% of our country and women are 54% of our population.
People vote top of the ticket everytime…people vote 50% on who they like, and 50% vote on policies that they “think” will be implemented.
I’m going with who I like, trust, admire for service to this great country and I suppose you all know where I’m going with that, because yes, I am 50 years old, and right of center.
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN even BEFORE HE PICKED PALIN.
NEVER OBAMA.
Posted by: DLM | October 4, 2008, 3:09 am 3:09 am
Palin lost the debate last night. She skirted around issues, didn’t answer the majority, and was wrong on the rest. Yes, she’s a good debator…but that is not a qualification for a VP.
The only thing I got out of the debate was that my choice was the right one from the start…Obama/Biden.
Posted by: Nancy D | Oct 4, 2008 3:03:34 AM
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yes but what REALLY matters is that SHE DIDN’T SUCK.
That’s what McCain was hoping for. America loves an underachiever.
Posted by: GIGI | October 4, 2008, 3:12 am 3:12 am
GIGI …i thought you missed that last one..so unlike you. since we can’t have kids, do you have 6 years to get a half a degree in journalism ?
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 4, 2008, 3:12 am 3:12 am
Hear me roar…5:51….
Vote vagina…..you got that right….98% of blacks are voting black….see any difference? If 98% of women voted for the woman this would be over now. However, blacks are 14% of our country and women are 54% of our population.
People vote top of the ticket everytime…people vote 50% on who they like, and 50% vote on policies that they “think” will be implemented.
I’m going with who I like, trust, admire for service to this great country and I suppose you all know where I’m going with that, because yes, I am 50 years old, and right of center.
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN even BEFORE HE PICKED PALIN.
NEVER OBAMA.
Posted by: DLM | Oct 4, 2008 3:09:09 AM
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Sir, please stop embarrasing yourself.
To the rest:
Gentlemen, it’s been fun. and in the wise words of ubber tall Dee Snyder… “we’re not gonna take it”
Posted by: GIGI | October 4, 2008, 3:15 am 3:15 am
Patriotic Barack Obama lapel pins unveiled honoring all 57 states
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/05/new-patriotic-o.html
This guy is so lame! BOYCOTT CNN & MSNBC for manipulating the Presidential election with the biased pushing of obama before researching.
http://www.dontvoteobama.net.
Obama needs to tell us more about his relationship with Ayers. It’s important because voters might well wonder whether that relationship, coupled with Obama’s longtime relationship with the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, is just the beginning of a pattern, a pattern in which Obama seems quite comfortable with people who really, really, really don’t like the United States of America. If you question him or his values or policies, you’re part of the “divisive, distracting” practices voters associate with Washington. If you become an unquestioning, adoring political groupie, you’re not. Them’s the Obama Rules.
One day after being drubbed by Hillary Clinton in Pennsylvania to the tune of 200,000+ votes, Obama’s chief political adviser David Alexrod was on National Public Radio claiming that white working class Democrats barely exist and hardly matter.
Axelrod said, “The white working class has gone to the Republican nominee for many elections, going back even to the Clinton years. This is not new that Democratic candidates don’t need or rely solely on those votes.” Posted by: Harrette | May 10, 2008 at 05:20 AM
Source:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/05/new-patriotic-o.html
Posted by: Natasha | October 4, 2008, 3:15 am 3:15 am
And so to bed. May the angels of heaven watch over all of you—and they will whether you believe it or not.
Shalom!
Posted by: George | October 4, 2008, 3:16 am 3:16 am
Hillary, Bill and Chelsea all voting McCain/Palin in the privacy of their booth….I just know it.
She wants her na-na-na-na-na-na moment.
I know I do.
McCAIN/PALIN ’08
HILLARY/? ’12
Posted by: DLM | October 4, 2008, 3:17 am 3:17 am
GIGI …i thought you missed that last one..so unlike you. since we can’t have kids, do you have 6 years to get a half a degree in journalism ?
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | Oct 4, 2008 3:12:48 AM
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SIX YEARS?
South Africa is only less than two years away! and I need my credentials! lol every four years since Italy I’ve been saying the same! “NEXT TIME, I’ll have my PRESS credentials!”
This is the one!!! SOUTH AFRICA 2010 OR BUST! lol!
Posted by: GIGI | October 4, 2008, 3:18 am 3:18 am
the above comment will make absolutely NO SENSE to anyone who ignores that there’s a world out there, and that AMERICA is an actual continent comprised of MANY MANY MANY countries (Sarah Palin)
Posted by: GIGI | October 4, 2008, 3:20 am 3:20 am
– it is what it is and we need to take some responsibility for our own lives when possible and stop blaming Presidents. –
And we also need to take responsibility in getting America back on track, and that responsibility is in selecting, to the best of our ability and knowledge, leadership that will accomplish that.
If you truely do not care, then you should not vote.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 4, 2008, 3:26 am 3:26 am
Source:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/05/new-patriotic-o.html
Posted by: Natasha | Oct 4, 2008 3:15:31 AM
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A BLOG?
YOU’RE SENDING ME TO A BLOG??
A BLOG? you’re serious?
this is where you gather your data?
this is how you receive your news???
AT A BLOG?!
oh God help us…
Oh geez, all those years in college, all those news papers, all those periodicals… what a waste! I could have just read A BLOG!
A BLOG?!
as a source??? REALLY!
Posted by: GIGI | October 4, 2008, 3:26 am 3:26 am
rage.against wrote: “You would have to be freaking retarded or republican to think the article stated Clinton was pro Palin and anit-Obama
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To retarded left wing liberals she says what they want to hear. It is one thing what they do in public and it is another how they truly feel. They can not stand Barack Hussein Obama and I would not be suprprised if they did vote for McCain Palin. One thing is obvious even to a 7 year old – they are not really campaining for him!
How many times have you seen Senator Clinton out in the field or going on TV giving her two cents about Obama? I see senators from both Republicans and Democrats parading on CNN, FOX, MSNBC supporting their candidates. When was the last time you Hillary! And good for her! I do not blame her – in fact I would loose my respect for her if she was following around a guy who DUMPED HER!
As for President Clinton – he considers McCain a great man but he could not even bring himself to use the words “great man” for Obama when Tom Brokaw asked him last Sunday on “Meet The Press”!
Posted by: Natasha | October 4, 2008, 3:27 am 3:27 am
are you out of your mind??/No real Hillary supporter would use Sarah and Hillary in the same sentance. You have no voting conscience or scruples-Hillary can make it on her own-shes got the right stuff-to say she needs McCain to win in order for her to win-is an insult to Hillary-you were a stinking mcCain supporter all along-now get out of here-go wash your mouth out with soap
Posted by: cowgirlblues | October 4, 2008, 3:29 am 3:29 am
lord help liberals-perhaps you missed the portion of the debate where palin said she subscribed to cheneys “theory ” that VPs could have more powers? You might want to rewatch that
Posted by: cowgirlblues | October 4, 2008, 3:40 am 3:40 am
Natasha scribbled: “How many times have you seen Senator Clinton out in the field or going on TV giving her two cents about Obama?”
Oh dear Natasha, did you not read the article above here (go ahead, scroll up, it’s all those words up there at the top of this web page.. go ahead, I’ll wait).
“Clinton is in Los Angeles for an environmentally-themed Saturday fundraiser “Angelenos Go Green for Obama” to raise money for the Democratic presidential candidate and Democrats in November Senate races”
Surely you don’t really believe all this stuff you are spouting off about, do you? Poor thing.. guilt-by-association, conspiracy theories, falsehoods that have been proven over and over again to be false, unable to even examine the issues.. Dear, you do live in a very dark and scary world don’t you.
Posted by: Janice | October 4, 2008, 3:43 am 3:43 am
Cowgirl wrote: “palin said she subscribed to cheneys “theory ” that VPs could have more powers?”
Oh yes, that was amazing wasn’t it? And how about Cheney claiming that the VP was not part of the executive branch, and had to have a Judge order him to maintain records that he wanted to shred!
Thank goodness both Obama and Biden are experts in Constitutional law.. it appears that nobody in the White House right now has even read the Constitution.
Posted by: Janice | October 4, 2008, 3:47 am 3:47 am
GIGI wrote: “A BLOG?!
as a source??? REALLY!”
Yes Miss Naivetee (Obama is contagious, you know)- when it comes to a comment posted by another user to an ITEM REPORTED BY A NEWS SOURCE LIKE THE ONE FOR EXAMPLE THAT YOU ARE PARTICIPATING HERE the appropriate thing to do is to state your source.
The item was a comment by another blogger to a news article that LA TIMES – A MAJOR NEWSPAPER REPORTED (like ABC NEWS HAS REPORTED THE ITEM THAT YOU ARE BLOGGING ABOUT HERE.)
I do not see any sources for your information. Yous know there is something that is called “copyright” and there is something that is called “plagiarism” – something caused Joe Biden to kiss his first attempt to run for President goodbye!!
Or are you disputing the fact that Obama did in fact made the gafee about the 57 states and subsequent to that stupid left wing liberals came up with an actual 57 state pin (they think that they are funny) and gave Obama one also!! Get your facts straight before you talk. The whole story was even on network and cable news but you missed this too – darn media they are not repeating the Obama gaffes as often!!
If you had visited the link you would have noticed the news article that LA Times reported to whicj people are alloed to comment. Next time do your homework before you open you put your foot in your mouth!
Posted by: Natasha | October 4, 2008, 3:51 am 3:51 am
HERE IS A FEW MORE FOR YOU GIGI!!
And this one from… REUTERS!!! (which means that the whole world is laughing with Obama bin Biden!)
Ahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!
Obama: “I’ve now been to 57 states”
(00:27)
May 9 – On the campaign trail in Beaverton, Oregon, Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama mistakenly tells a crowd that’s he’s been to 57 states – with one left to go.
http://www.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=82127
And, this one from LA TIMES (remember, LA TIMES IS A NEWSPAPER – LA stands for LOS ANGELES (just in case you are still confused)
Barack Obama wants to be president of these 57 United States
LA TIMES
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/05/barack-obama-wa.html
Posted by: Natasha | October 4, 2008, 4:03 am 4:03 am
You democrats that are voting republican are CRAZY! What are you thinking?
Posted by: Tim | October 4, 2008, 4:04 am 4:04 am
Well, well, well,… go, go, goooooo…. Hon. Gov. Sarah P., you will be the next VP of the United State of America.
Sen. Hillary gave you a nice comment and we are sure that she will vote according to her conscience and belief that Ms. Sarah P. a qualified and fitted to be the title holder of this Nov. election.
Forget the negative comments of some concerned critics, but the majority of American registered voters will VOTE for Ms. Sarah P.-McCain lanslide victory.
Posted by: Balweg | October 4, 2008, 4:06 am 4:06 am
Yaps ms. Natasha, we feel that the majoriy of the Democrats will vote for the landslide victory of Ms. Sarah P. & McCain.
One of them is Sen. Hillary Clinton and co. who believe that their lady senator will be their candidate on 2012!
But they like Ms. Sarah P.-McCan to their VP and President this coming Nov. election.
Poor Obama, your fellows will abandon you, it’s purely politics!
Posted by: Balweg | October 4, 2008, 4:20 am 4:20 am
Janice-
I saw it Miss Naivetee #2 – so what? How many freaking months have passed since Hillary suspended her own campaign? I am talking about intense – serious campaning – not just appearances once a month!
And I repeat – how many times have you seen Hillary on the Sunday political talk shows for example – ie. “Meet The Press”, “Face The Nation”, etc. (have you ever watched them dear?) And where is she when Juliani, Polenti, Thompson, Ronmey, Wasserman, “Bela Pelosi” and others are all over the cable news on Larry King, and other shows campaining for their respective candidates????!!!!!
Hillary is smarter than many left wing liberals…Remember, the 3:00 am call to the White House? Trust me, only an idiot would believe that she has changed her mind about Obama not being fit to be Commander in Chief. She has never – not once – not during the primaries – not now – she has ever said that McCain is not fit to be Commander in Chief! To the contrary, during the primaries she said that McCain would make an excellent Commander in Chief!! You missed that part, hah?
Poor baby…vote for Obama bin Biden – he needs you… (he needed Hillary too but he blew it!!)
Speaking about judgement, hah?
Posted by: Natasha | October 4, 2008, 4:23 am 4:23 am
– Concerned American – Why don’t you go find Obama’s senatorial records, educational records, and medical records and let us not forget that pesky, elusive REAL birth certificate? –
Sorry, but medical records are not available due to privacy laws..
Senatorial voting records:
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/o000167/
And you can find the bills introduced into the US congress over at the thomas center at the library of congress.
Senate Committees:
Foreign Relations, Member
Health, Education, Labor & Pensions, Member
Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, Member
Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, Member
Subcommittee on African Affairs, Member
Subcommittee on Children and Families, Member
Subcommittee on East Asian and Pacific Affairs, Member
Subcommittee on Employment and Workplace Safety, Member
Subcommittee on European Affairs, Chair
Subcommittee on Federal Financial Management, Government Information, Federal Services, and International Security , Member
Subcommittee on International Development and Foreign Assistance, Economic Affairs and International Environmental Protection, Member
Subcommittee on State, Local, and Private Sector Preparedness and Integration, Member
Veterans’ Affairs
Education:
Graduated high school 1971
Occidental College then transferred to Columbia.
Graduated Columbia 1983. Degree in political science and specalizing in International Relations
Graduated Harvard Law School 1991 mangna cum laude with a J.D. in 1991
President Harvard Law Review
Professor, University of Chicago Law School 1992-2004
Birth Certificate:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/
– Obama has not done one damn thing except ensure … that some late term aborted babies had the misfortune to live out the rest of their lives in a stainless steel bowl in some hospital’s utility room. I am Pro-Choice, but I really can’t get with that. –
Don’t have to, it’s false:
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obama_and_infanticide.html
Posted by: jj1221 | October 4, 2008, 4:30 am 4:30 am
Mrs. Clinton has went out of her way to help Obama. Obama disrespected Mrs. Clinton over and over. Now, right in our faces, he uses her to shore up his lacking votes. Obama truly has one objective (use anyone), to become elected president. Obama’s team bashed Hillary and now it’s bash Sarah. They dare say they care about women’s concerns. Why do women support this guy, wake up!
Posted by: Christie | October 4, 2008, 4:35 am 4:35 am
Natasha sprawled: “How many freaking months have passed since Hillary suspended her own campaign?”
Oh honey, you do put a lot of weight into what Hillary says, don’t you.. do you always vote based on how hard others campaign for a given candidate? What a terrible way to choose a leader. Were you by chance a cheerleader in school?
Are you unable to look at the issues and make up your own mind, or do you let others do that for you? That would explain your other, ummm, ‘quality’ of just spouting off whatever you happen hear, regardless of it’s accuracy.
Poor dear, please get some rest.. you do seem a bit worked up. It will all be over soon enough and you can go back to hiding in the closet from all those bad things in the world that are closing in around you. Rest assured, they are just in your mind.
Posted by: Janice | October 4, 2008, 4:44 am 4:44 am
GIGI – You are as NAIVE as Concerned American – as NAIVE as your “Chosen One” – “God’s Gift to America” as Bela Pelosi refers to Obama bin Biden!
Read one more time… Palin is NOT going to disclose to you or the media or anyone else for tham matter exactly what she or the Alaska National Guard is up too when Russian Bombers are “picking through our airspace”. Unless you think that she in not in the loop of what our Defence Department, the NSA, the CIA and others may be sharing with her. After all she is the top Executive in her State – and whether you like to hear it or not she is the Commander in Chief of the Alaska National Guard. Or do you think that NATO, our military, NSA, and other agencies are waiting until there is an atatck to inform the Governor of any “plans” of action? You are all pathetic – geoploitically clueless left wing liberals – truly dangerous for our country.
Here it is one more time…but you probably can not even understand a word even if you read it.
And, can you please tell us WHERE DID OBAMA BIN BIDEN GOT HIS NATIONAL SECURITY EXPERIENCE – IN KENYA – INDONESIA OR IN CHICAGO ILLINOIS AS A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER? OR DURING HIS ABSENTEE SENATORS’ CAREER (AS SOON AS HE BECAME SENATOR HE – THE NAIVE – STARTED RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT!!!
REMEMBER LEFT WING LIBERALS – IT IS OBAMA RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT NOT PALIN. WE WILL KEEP REMINDING YOU OF THAT BECAUSE YOUR BRAIN IS FULL OF OBAMA CRAP AND YOU HAVE GOTTEN MIXED UP WHO THE ELECTION IS ABOUT!!!
To uneducated and geopolitically inept left-wing-liberals:
If you think that Sarah Palin as the Governor of Alaska – a state that is only 1.5 miles away from the Russian border – is NOT in the loop of NATO ACT such as this one below – either you are really naive or you must be smoking something funny!!
May 16, 2008
ACT and JFCOM host Joint Forces Reserve Orientation Course – videocast
VIDEOCAST
http://www.act.nato.int/media/5-Multimedia/Vidcasts/080514jfroc.wmv
For a more information regarding ACT:
NATO ALLIED COMMAND TRANSFORMATION
http://www.act.nato.int/
NATO ACT Multimedia Library
http://www.act.nato.int/content.asp?pageid=520
Posted by: Natasha | October 4, 2008, 4:45 am 4:45 am
Christie thus spoke: “Mrs. Clinton has went out of her way to help Obama. Obama disrespected Mrs. Clinton over and over. Now, right in our faces, he uses her to shore up his lacking votes.”
Oh Christie honey, are you serious? Hillary and Barack had a pretty nasty campaign against each other.. it was not a one way street, as you seem to make it out to be. In fact, most of the smears she tried have now been picked up by the GOP, even though they were already proven false. And once you take off your rose colored glasses, she is under no obligation to campaign for him, but is doing so on her own free will.. you make it sound as if he is somehow forcing the poor woman to do so against her will, which is rather amusing.
As to why women support him? Well, he has has a firm belief in equal rights and our right to choose for one. The other side has come right out and said they do not support that. Just go look at the legislation Obama has introduced in the Senate and you will see plain as day. If you were not aware of that, then dear, you really need to look into these things if you want to make an informed decision come November.
Posted by: Janice | October 4, 2008, 4:53 am 4:53 am
Natasha poor dear, are you really that clueless? Please, go to a dictionary and look up “Foreign Relations”.. watching planes, even with friends in high places, is not part of that description sweetie, no matter how many time you repeat it to yourself.
Posted by: Janice | October 4, 2008, 4:58 am 4:58 am
Repetition is the mother of learning…the next few weeks will be spent to remind American people of a few very important things such as the fact that Obama did not gain any more security credentials since March 06, 2008! And that is a fact!!!!
HILLARY QUESTIONS OBAMA’S SECURITY CREDS
Posted: Thursday, March 06, 2008 5:47 PM by Mark Murray
Filed Under: 2008, Security, Clinton, Obama
From NBC/NJ’s Athena Jones and Aswini Anburajan
WASHINGTON, DC — Hillary Clinton today suggested Barack Obama had not met the commander-in-chief test.
She said that proving he was ready would be important with John McCain as the Republican nominee and with national security as a key issue in the election.
“I think it’s imperative that each of us be able to demonstrate we can cross the commander-in-chief threshold, and I believe that I’ve done that. Certainly, Sen. McCain has done that, and you’ll have to ask Sen. Obama with respect to his candidacy,” she said during a meeting with military officers and other national security experts in Washington, which was convened to discuss her own readiness for the job and her plans for dealing with the war in Afghanistan.
The New York senator began the meeting by talking about the support she had received from military officers. “As president, I will draw on the experience of leaders such as those you see before you to confront our challenges and to seize our opportunities to build a safer and more just world,” she said, adding that she was grateful to have her own experience to draw on having lived at both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue and having traveled to more than 80 countries representing the country.
She mentioned having had a conversation today with King Abdullah of Jordan to discuss challenges facing the region. “Some may believe that experience doesn’t matter or that even in today’s world it is a liability. But as generals and admirals, ambassadors, and other senior leaders charged with protecting our security know, experience doesn’t just count for something. Often when lives are on the line and a decision must be made, experience counts for everything. In this election, we need a nominee who can pass the commander-in-chief test,” she said.
But in a conference call with reporters today, Obama foreign affairs adviser Susan Rice questioned Clinton’s own experience. “You don’t get that experience from being married to a commander in chief,” she said.
Rice and Greg Craig, another Obama adviser, repeated a constant theme of the Obama campaign that Clinton’s initial vote for the war in Iraq made her judgment on foreign policy poorer than Obama’s. Rice also tried to walk a fine line by trying to discredit any substantive work that Clinton had done as First Lady, while trying not to undermine the role.
She praised the work of Laura Bush and Clinton as goodwill ambassadors who did “laudable work” on specific issues in the international arena, but she said that the U.S. government does not turn to the First Lady in a time of crisis. She also claimed that Clinton’s claims that she had played roles in the conflict in Bosnia, Macedonia, and Northern Ireland were overstated.
“She took a trip to Bosnia with Chelsea, Sinbad and Sheryl Crow. She claimed that bullets were flying in the air, but she was at a meet and greet and concert for the troops,” Rice claimed.
The Clinton campaign has been pushing the national security theme hard for days, beginning with their release of the “Children” ad — with a ringing phone and a question about who voters want answering the phone at 3:00 am in the event of a crisis.
During the brief Q&A at her meeting, Clinton was asked about her role when her husband answered phone calls during crises in the middle of the night.
“I don’t talk about the conversations that I had with my husband in the White House, but obviously I was there for a lot of phone calls at different times of the day and night, and I have a very clear idea of what it takes to be prepared and ready to not only to answer the phone but then to make the decisions that are required depending on what the crisis is.”
MSNBC NEWS
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/03/06/739131.aspx
Posted by: Natasha | October 4, 2008, 5:03 am 5:03 am
Janice – stop acting like a two year old and give us some real arguments. YES its is about “watching the Russian planes” – and you know darn well what that means… Read the NATO ACT one more time – did you figure it out yet?Are you that naive, really …Are you all at the Obama camp that NAIVE?!
Even George Bush is smarter than you!!
Even George Bush is smarter than you!!
Posted by: Natasha | October 4, 2008, 5:13 am 5:13 am
Natasha wrote: “WHERE DID OBAMA BIN BIDEN GOT HIS NATIONAL SECURITY EXPERIENCE”
Well, here we go again.. He is of course on the foreign affairs committee in the Senate, as well as the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs committee, and the subcommittee on Federal Financial Management, Government Information, Federal Services, and International Security.
So you see honey, he does have some ‘security’ creds floating about.. he has done a bit more than just watch planes. And as for your “ABSENTEE SENATORS’ CAREER” remark.. poor dear, you do know that John McCain has missed more votes in the 110th congress than any other senator, don’t you? And Obama has actually voted considerably more than him as well. Dear, you should really should check your ‘facts’ out a bit more before you go making yourself look silly. Here is a good place to start:
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/m000303/
You go there hun, it’s a place called the “Congressional Vote Database” and has all sorts of real facts.. like how McCain has missed over 64% of the votes this congress, and has only placed 235 votes (missed 420) while Obama has voted 352 times. You can learn all sorts of fun facts about the candidates if you try, really! Another fun place to go is the library of congress, where you can see what each has been up to in terms of sponsoring bills.. poor McCain is rather lacking in that department this session of congress, and has only been named on under 40 so far, while Obama has well over a 100.. not bad for someone who supposedly hasn’t been there, huh? Really, please do go have a look-see, ok? I think it would do you a world of good!
Posted by: Janice | October 4, 2008, 5:14 am 5:14 am
Balweg wrote:
“Yaps ms. Natasha, we feel that the majoriy of the Democrats will vote for the landslide victory of Ms. Sarah P. & McCain.
One of them is Sen. Hillary Clinton and co. who believe that their lady senator will be their candidate on 2012!
But they like Ms. Sarah P.-McCan to their VP and President this coming Nov. election.
Poor Obama, your fellows will abandon you, it’s purely politics!”
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Dear Balweg – the poor Obama fellows are simply freaking out because they were probably having the expectation that Senator Clinton was going to tear Governor Palin apart! Wishful thinking in their part… Senator Clinton has moral values and character – the poor Obama fellows lack in both. All you have to do is look at their “Chosen One” – “God’s Gift to America” as “Bella” Pelosi refers to Obama Bin Biden!!
Here is a must watch video by all morally sound American fellows who must know how dangerous the Marxist Fellow – Barack Hussein Obama will be for our country…
A VIDEO PORTRAIT OF BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA
http://www.eyeblast.tv/Public/Video.aspx?rsrcID=2036
AMERICA THINK BEFORE YOU VOTE!
Posted by: Natasha | October 4, 2008, 5:31 am 5:31 am
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AMERICA THINK BEFORE YOU VOTE!
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WE ARE. THAT IS WHY WE ARE VOTING FOR OBAMA. IF YOU LOOK AT THE ISSUES AND EACH ONES POSITION ON THEM, IT’S REALLY A PRETTY EASY DECISION. FROM WHAT I’VE SEEN, THOSE VOTING FOR MCCAIN ARE SIMPLY DOING SO BECAUSE THEY DISLIKE OBAMA, AND MOST ARE FOR SOME PRETTY IRRATIONAL RESONS. THAT IS SAD.
Posted by: SamShore | October 4, 2008, 5:55 am 5:55 am
Michelle – If McCain wins, we might not be around to have an election in 2012. Hillary’s “praise” for Palin notwithstanding, Palin, in the debate, did nothing more than spout the talking points which she learned at debate camp. If anyone really cared to listen, there is no depth to her words, just as in her interviews of the past couple of weeks. No depth, no real understanding, just alot of filler that rambles on and on and means less and less as she continues. If this is who you want in a position of power then I would say you have no understanding of the importance of the issues at hand. Handing the government over to McCain and Palin will not be good for the country.
Posted by: counting crows | October 4, 2008, 7:43 am 7:43 am
Obama made a fool of himself on his Hollywood visit abroad. McCain didn’t have to prove Obama wrong on Iraq – OBAMA DID THAT TO HIMSELF!! Obama’s lack of experience shows itself all along the way in this campaign. He DOES excel in one area though – HIS MOUTH – PROBLEM IS IT IS ALL GOBBLEDEGOOK AND THE NAIVE OR POORLY EDUCATED FALL FOR IT!!
Posted by: Temagami | October 4, 2008, 7:51 am 7:51 am
OBAMA, PELOSI AND REID TOGETHER AS OUR NATIONAL LEADERS? Got a business? Get the hell out!!
Posted by: Temagami | October 4, 2008, 7:55 am 7:55 am
According to ‘factcheck . org’ Biden told 14 lies in the debate – so I guess he’s a “flawless” liar.
Posted by: Alina Petrovic | October 4, 2008, 8:01 am 8:01 am
Hey come January 15th or so When Obama comes out and says well america I really wanted to do all I promised But I have looked at the books and Its time to be more Patriotic all of us need to roll up our sleeves and work a little harder give a little extra.As a nation that has just been robbed he cant do anything else!
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 4, 2008, 8:19 am 8:19 am
The debate looked like teacher and student in an exam. Also, it looked like a boxing where the one with 60 times in the ring while his rival experienced 3 times in the ring. At the end, the referee decided both drawed. It’s amazing. But the viewers said the student/little experienced boxer won…!
Posted by: DOFF | October 4, 2008, 8:24 am 8:24 am
I am feeling so superior as a Brit. Reading some of these comments makes me realise how uneducated most Americans are. Racist too. Saying Obama is linked to terrorism is outrageous. I forget though – most Americans do not realise that there is a world outside America. Get a passport! Saying Palin is intelligent – seeing her gaffes recently, she is probably the thickest woman on this planet. God help American and the rest of the world if she becomes VP. All the women out there supporting her, don’t vote for someone because they are the same sex. Unbelievable.
Posted by: Kate | October 4, 2008, 8:29 am 8:29 am
LordHelpLiberals asked “where is it written that the rich have to help the poor”? Um, in the Bible? Duh
“If a man shuts his ears to the cry of the poor, he too will cry out and not be answered.”
-Proverbs 21:13
“Speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves, for the rights of all who are destitute. Speak up and judge fairly; defend the rights of the poor and needy.”
-Proverbs 31:8-9
“No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money.”
-Matthew 6:24
“Then Jesus said to his disciples, ‘I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.’”
-Matthew 19:23-24
“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’ They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’ He will reply, ‘I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least among you, you did not do for me.’”
-Matthew 25:41-45
“He who mocks the poor shows contempt for their Maker; whoever gloats over disaster will not go unpunished.”
-Proverbs 17:5
“He who oppresses the poor to increase his wealth and he who gives gifts to the rich–both come to poverty.”
-Proverbs 22:16
“Jesus answered, ‘If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.’”
-Matthew 19:21
“He who gives to the poor will lack nothing, but he who closes his eyes to them receives many curses.”
-Proverbs 28:27
“People who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge men into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.”
-1 Timothy 6:9-10
“Command those who are rich in this present world not to be arrogant nor to put their hope in wealth, which is so uncertain, but to put their hope in God, who richly provides us with everything for our enjoyment. Command them to do good, to be rich in good deeds, and to be generous and willing to share. In this way they will lay up treasure for themselves as a firm foundation for the coming age, so that they may take hold of the life that is truly life.”
-1 Timothy 6:17-19
“He who oppresses the poor shows contempt for their Maker, but whoever is kind to the needy honors God.”
-Proverbs 14:31
“A generous man will himself be blessed, for he shares his food with the poor.”
-Proverbs 22:9
“The righteous care about justice for the poor, but the wicked have no such concern.”
-Proverbs 29:7
“There will always be poor people in the land. Therefore I command you to be openhanded toward your brothers and toward the poor and needy in your land.”
-Deuteronomy 15:11
Posted by: Fact Checker | October 4, 2008, 8:29 am 8:29 am
Kate – you have no idea. The United States is largely populated by morons who lack even a basic education. I’m from Norway, and I’m not sure if it’s always been that way, but I have lived and travelled extensively in America – and largely in “Red State America” and the levels of ignorance, misinformation, racism, xenophobia and willful stupidity I found there was shocking. Aside from a few educated, middle class enclaves, the United States is essentially a third world country. Actually, it is worse than many third world countries, because the people there don’t realize just how ignorant, uneducated and cut off from reality they really are. America now is like Russia in the ’80s – just before everything fell apart.
Posted by: The Spectator | October 4, 2008, 8:37 am 8:37 am
Obama supporters are drunk off their Obam-Aid. Obama is so full of himself and he was an extremely ungracious winner when he beat Hillary for the Democratic nomination.
We’re going to let the leftist-loons like Obama, Barney Frank, et al. in America run our country????
Vote no to the empty suit! Voted no to the talking head! Vote no to Obama/Biden!
Posted by: NOBAMA08 | October 4, 2008, 8:44 am 8:44 am
to idiothater who posted @ 6:38PM…
WELL SAID…WELL DONE…your comments were so right on…..how easily all could have happened in reverse. Can you imagine if Obama had graduated 4th from the bottom or better yet if Michele had been addicted to drugs as Cindy was………well that would be so typical of “those people”. Unfortunately….the republicans are mostly racist and they will do anything, even elect a senile half-wit and his totally idiotic “maverick” side kick. God help us all.
Posted by: Sandy | October 4, 2008, 9:03 am 9:03 am
The time is now!
To remind Americans that Barack Hussein Obama is just another politician that will do or say whatever it takes to fulfill his political ambitions. Barack is calculated and methodical about hiding his true convictions and intentions, and uses deception to get elected.
The time is now!
For Americans to remember Barack Hussein Obama’s intimate 20 year relationship with the Priest of Hate, Jeremiah Wright, who blessed Barack and Michelle marriage and baptized both their daughters. AND, to remember the hideous videos of Jeremiah Wright’s congregation which included the Obamas, damning America with bombastic joy, after the Muslim’s criminal attack on America on 9/11.
The time is now!
For Americans to remember how Barack’s Priest of Hate, Jeremiah Wright used his tax-exempt church to exercise a radical political agenda, and how he refers to Israel, as well as America, as a “racist” State. Barack’s religious leader, Jeremiah Wright believes that the true ‘Chosen People’ are the blacks; and that black values are superior to middle-class American values.? Indeed Barack’s Priest of Hate, Jeremiah Wright is a black supremacist.
The time is now!
To remind Americans that Barack Hussein Obama wants to be president to implement Jeremiah Wright’s dream of a black supremacist society in America.
The time is now!
For Americans of all political parties to come together to preserve the future of the country we love and have always been proud of, by voting for a True American Patriot and War Hero who risked his life for our country:
John McCain for President of the United States of America.
Country First!
Americans for John McCain/Sarah Palin
Posted by: Joey | October 4, 2008, 9:09 am 9:09 am
Hillary is right.Hillary knows that Sarah is a far better choice as a VP then Bidden.
Posted by: Duane Z | October 4, 2008, 9:20 am 9:20 am
I just don’t understand people out there who are switching on vote from rep. to dem becaue Hillay is no longer contender. What are they thinking?
They just don’t have a fundemental political idea.It is a shame!!
Posted by: BYSA | October 4, 2008, 10:02 am 10:02 am
This is supposed to be an election for president not PR rock star. You are hiring the CEO of Firm USA. Who do you want to run the firm, a manager with over 25 years experience or the newly hired stockboy?
If you complain about Palin’s experience to be VP candidate where does that leave Obama? She has more real experience than he has. Or is Obama really running as Biden’s VP?
Sergeant Ryan David Jopek of Merrill, Wisconsin, his family had asked Barack Obama to stop wearing the bracelet with his son’s name on it. Yet Obama continues to do so despite the wishes of the family.”
Posted by: AmerVtrn | October 4, 2008, 10:06 am 10:06 am
“He got where he was by being a backstabbing opportunist who never passed up an opportunity to step on his benefactors in his sick quest for power”
You mean Barack? Barack “Change” Obama?
How did Obama win his first Senate seat? By challenging his opponents’ right to be on the ballot and succeeding, so he could run unopposed.
I wrote about this in detail in April when Alice Palmer campaigned for Hillary in Indiana. Here’s the back story, from the Chicago Tribune:
Palmer served the district in the Illinois Senate for much of the 1990s. Decades earlier, she was working as a community organizer in the area when Obama was growing up in Hawaii and Indonesia. She risked her safe seat to run for Congress and touted Obama as a suitable successor, according to news accounts and interviews.
But when Palmer got clobbered in that November 1995 special congressional race, her supporters asked Obama to fold his campaign so she could easily retain her state Senate seat.
Obama not only refused to step aside, he filed challenges that nullified Palmer’s hastily gathered nominating petitions, forcing her to withdraw.
He actually got four of his opponents off the ballot that year.
“He wondered if we should knock everybody off the ballot. How would that look?” said Ronald Davis, the paid Obama campaign consultant whom Obama referred to as his “guru of petitions.”
In the end, Davis filed objections to all four of Obama’s Democratic rivals at the candidate’s behest.
The politics of change? A new kind of politics in Washington?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-070403obama-ballot,1,57567.story
Posted by: nobamama | October 4, 2008, 10:06 am 10:06 am
Fact Checker: Excellent revelations on behalf of the poor. Another case in point is the law that God laid down requiring the harvesters to leave part of the harvest in the field so that the poor could glean from the fields what was left there for them. Ruth, King David’s grandmother, was one such gleaner. Thank you.
Posted by: George | October 4, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am
I would not say that American’s lack intelligence as a couple of visitors from overseas have said. What some American’s lack is a willingness to read and investigate before they talk or write. There are many who will simply repeat half-truths and lies because they happen to fit in with minds already made up—it’s a “I’ve already made up my mind, don’t confuse me with the facts” mind set. This has led to more “shouting” and name calling and less civil discourse. That is one of the flaws (and there are others), one of the impurities in the gold that is great American experiment. Over a hundred years ago Katherine Lee Bates put it quite simply in a poem that is a prayer for this great country of ours.
America! America!
God mend thine ev’ry flaw,
Confirm thy soul in self-control,
Thy liberty in law.
America! America!
May God thy gold refine
Till all success be nobleness,
And ev’ry gain divine.
America! America!
God shed his grace on thee,
And crown thy good with brotherhood
From sea to shining sea.
This orthodox Christian, gay, pro-choice, patriotic, Democrat is voting for Obama.
God bless America!
Posted by: George | October 4, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am
I just read over what I wrote and notices a couple of errors (flaws). There should be no apostrophes in Americans (they are plurals not possessives). Sorry!
Posted by: George | October 4, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am
Joe Biden’s 14 Flawless Lies
1. TAX VOTE: Biden said McCain voted “the exact same way” as Obama to increase taxes on Americans earning just $42,000, but McCain DID NOT VOTE THAT WAY.
2. AHMEDINIJAD MEETING: Joe Biden lied when he said that Barack Obama never said that he would sit down unconditionally with Mahmoud Ahmedinijad of Iran. Barack Obama did say specifically, and Joe Biden attacked him for it.
3. OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING: Biden said, “Drill we must.” But Biden has opposed offshore drilling and even compared offshore drilling to “raping” the Outer Continental Shelf.”
4. TROOP FUNDING: Joe Biden lied when he indicated that John McCain and Barack Obama voted the same way against funding the troops in the field. John McCain opposed a bill that included a timeline, that the President of the United States had already said he would veto regardless of it’s passage.
5. OPPOSING CLEAN COAL: Biden says he’s always been for clean coal, but he just told a voter that he is against clean coal and any new coal plants in America and has a record of voting against clean coal and coal in the U.S. Senate.
6. ALERNATIVE ENERGY VOTES: According to FactCheck.org, Biden is exaggerating and overstating John McCain’s record voting for alternative energy when he says he voted against it 23 times.
7. HEALTH INSURANCE: Biden falsely said McCain will raise taxes on people’s health insurance coverage — they get a tax credit to offset any tax hike. Independent fact checkers have confirmed this attack is false
8. OIL TAXES: Biden falsely said Palin supported a windfall profits tax in Alaska — she reformed the state tax and revenue system, it’s not a windfall profits tax.
9. AFGHANISTAN / GEN. MCKIERNAN COMMENTS: Biden said that top military commander in Iraq said the principles of the surge could not be applied to Afghanistan, but the commander of NATO’s International Security Assistance Force Gen. David D. McKiernan said that there were principles of the surge strategy, including working with tribes, that could be applied in Afghanistan.
10. REGULATION: Biden falsely said McCain weakened regulation — he actually called for more regulation on Fannie and Freddie.
11. IRAQ: When Joe Biden lied when he said that John McCain was “dead wrong on Iraq”, because Joe Biden shared the same vote to authorize the war and differed on the surge strategy where they John McCain has been proven right.
12. TAX INCREASES: Biden said Americans earning less than $250,000 wouldn’t see higher taxes, but the Obama-Biden tax plan would raise taxes on individuals making $200,000 or more.
13. BAILOUT: Biden said the economic rescue legislation matches the four principles that Obama laid out, but in reality it doesn’t meet two of the four principles that Obama outlined on Sept. 19, which were that it include an emergency economic stimulus package, and that it be part of “part of a globally coordinated effort with our partners in the G-20.”
14. REAGAN TAX RATES: Biden is wrong in saying that under Obama, Americans won’t pay any more in taxes then they did under Reagan.
Posted by: LightSeeker | October 4, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am
I’m sure there are more flaws someplace. This side of heaven it may be impossible to get all the weeds out, but we’ll be okay if we concentrate on the overall effect. This is what we musicians, artists, writers, etc. call “effect”—looking at the big picture, not at the tiny speck.
Posted by: George | October 4, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am
In 1994 O. J. Simpson murdered Nicole Brown…
In 2008 Simpson was found guilty of cime and will go to jail.
In 2008, O. H. Obama murdered Hillary Clinton….
In 2008 Obama will loose the presidential election to SARAH PALIN.
The time is now!
To remind Americans that Barack Hussein Obama is just another politician that will do or say whatever it takes to fulfill his political ambitions. Barack is calculated and methodical about hiding his true convictions and intentions, and uses deception to get elected.
The time is now!
For Americans to remember Barack Hussein Obama’s intimate 20 year relationship with the Priest of Hate, Jeremiah Wright, who blessed Barack and Michelle marriage and baptized both their daughters. AND, to remember the hideous videos of Jeremiah Wright’s congregation which included the Obamas, damning America with bombastic joy, after the Muslim’s criminal attack on America on 9/11.
The time is now!
To remind Americans that Barack Hussein Obama wants to be president to implement Jeremiah Wright’s dream of a black supremacist society in America.
The time is now!
For Americans of all political parties to come together to preserve the future of the country we love and have always been proud of, by voting for a True American Patriot and War Hero who risked his life for our country:
John McCain for President of the United States of America.
Country First!
Americans for John McCain/Sarah Palin
Posted by: Manolete | October 4, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am
Malkittens, YOU might find Palin’s “folksy” demeanor nauseating but she speaks fluent Midwestern and the midwestern states is where this election will be fought and won. Quite frankly, the American voter is sick and tired of the slick, double-taking, saying-nothing delivery of Barack Obama. This guy enjoys his rock star celebrity status but that’s not what we need in the White House. We need a straight talker and someone who speaks to the Heartland of America. That COULD have been Kathleen Sibelius. But Obama didn’t have the guts to choose her and chose a Clinton Crony instead. So this election will go down as the one Obama didn’t have the guts to win.
Posted by: SymphonyGirl | October 4, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm
Hillary is being extremely generous. On Thursday night, I witnessed a starlet on the American casting couch, desperately winking and flirting because she still doesn’t know the script for the big co-starring role.
Posted by: Rudy | October 4, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm
I live in the midwest and no one speaks like Palin did at the debate. It’s insulting. Symphonygirl must live in the hills or something.
Posted by: lindy | October 4, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm
OBAMA ONLY RISES WHEN OTHERS FALL
THATS WHY HIS SUPPORTERS ATTACKED SARAH PALIN.
OBAMA IS NEVER RISING ON HIS OWN , HE’S EMPTY.. NOTHING TO SHOW.
THE ECONMY FALLS-OBAMA RISES
SARAH OR MCCAIN IS DRAGGED THREW THE MUD, OBAMA RISES
SARAH PALIN RISES..OBAMA FALLS
THE ECONOMY STABILIZES.. OBAMA FALLS.
OBAMA HAS NOTHING BUT SPEECHES AND HANDOUTS FOR EVERYBODY–SOCIALISM
WELL, THE MONEY IS ALL GONE SO YOU’ALL WILL GET NOTHING BUT SPEECHES FROM OBAMA.
Posted by: TJ, THE CLINTONITE | October 4, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
OBAMA ONLY RISES WHEN OTHERS FALL
THATS WHY HIS SUPPORTERS ATTACKED SARAH PALIN.
OBAMA IS NEVER RISING ON HIS OWN , HE’S EMPTY.. NOTHING TO SHOW.
THE ECONMY FALLS-OBAMA RISES
SARAH OR MCCAIN IS DRAGGED THREW THE MUD, OBAMA RISES
SARAH PALIN RISES..OBAMA FALLS
THE ECONOMY STABILIZES.. OBAMA FALLS.
OBAMA HAS NOTHING BUT SPEECHES AND HANDOUTS FOR EVERYBODY–SOCIALISM
WELL, THE MONEY IS ALL GONE SO YOU’ALL WILL GET NOTHING BUT SPEECHES FROM OBAMA.
Posted by: TJ, THE CLINTONITE | October 4, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
National Policy should be more oriented toward high paying, high tech employment than credit & housing market.
Though everything matters because the color of the money is the same, however, the sequence should be set straight.
High paying & high tech jobs should be the top priority of the next administration.
Why is the economy of countries like India and China have boomed?
It is because they have implemented the correct sequence of money generation. They have gotten their priorities straight.
The sequence should be set straight because the ability to buy homes, health, & maintain sound credit, all DEPENDS on high paying employment.
More High paying employment in today’s world emanates from high tech jobs.
Posted by: Perflead | October 4, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
Gov. Palin missed her calling as a televanglist. That role is more suited to her than the VP slot.
Posted by: mythicwoe | October 4, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
Hillary liked Palin’s debate?
Palin’s winks were annoying to me and inappropriate. If it’s anything, it’s not presidential. Our country is in serious crisis. Her winks made the debate like anything but serious. Can you go to an interview, winking to your interviewer???
Posted by: leighg1 | October 4, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
Hillary liked Palin’s debate?
Palin’s winks were annoying to me and inappropriate. If it’s anything, it’s not presidential. Our country is in serious crisis. Her winks made the debate like anything but serious. Can you go to an interview, winking to your interviewer???
Posted by: leighg1 | October 4, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
DORKS CRITICIZING HILLARY AND BILL FOR NOT OOZING LOVE FOR BARRY HUSSEIN OBAMA!! NOT INTO MUCH LOGIC ARE YOU??
First, your beloved B.H.O. acts in complete contempt of Hillary in public with facial expressions that were undeniably disliking her, during the Primaries. Then, his campaign addes insults and really gets low and calls her and her daughter STREET NAMES!!! Like, this is a former First Lady of two (2) terms!!! Then, this dude has the nerve to dictate to her and to tne super delegate, how things are going to be –excuse me??? Think about it — This dude learned how to be electric as a speaker from the MANY YEARS UNDER THE MENTORYING OF REV. WRIGHT!!! AND, LIKE AN EVANGELIST, HE PUT HIMSELF ON THE NET TO USE POLITICS INSTEAD OF RELIGION TO GET HIS DONATIONS! Yeah, he learned. Then to top it off, AFTER INSULTING BILL CLINTON’S WIFE AND DAUGHTER DURING THE PRIMARIES, HE SEEKS ADVISE FROM BILL!! Please — I am soooooooo unimpressed!!
Posted by: MCN | October 4, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
Aw, too bad Republicans…
The Gallup numbers POST DEBATE are out!!
Gallup Tracking 10/01 – 10/03
Obama = 50%
McCain = 42% Obama +8
I guess Americans weren’t impressed with Palin’s canned answers and her little memorized speeches huh??
Also, is it within the debate rules to have answers written on notes cards at the podium like Palin had? It sure was funny to see her reading prepared “general answers” that didn’t even match the question asked half of the time…
You can’t learn how to be VP or President (if something happens to McCain) by cramming for a week….
How pathetic that the MSM even gives her any credibility at all!
Posted by: Davis | October 4, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
The Clintons may say they support Obama, but really they don’t because Obama pulled the race card on them, and trashed Hillary with all his lies. In this case, words speak louder than actions. Go Clintons!
Posted by: Rocker | October 4, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
Those of you thanking Hillary for supporting Palin are totally missing the point, and also her strategy. She didn’t want to insult you and polarize women voters who have been considering Palin, so she complimented Palin (though if you could hear her in her home with Bill, you would hear her honest opinion: that woman is a complete embarrassment and an idiot). She complimented Palin to get your ear, then she told you that the most important thing is to vote for the Dems to get the nation back on track. Did you get the message? Don’t vote Republican because it will be a continuance into the void.
Posted by: Alan | October 4, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
((( The Clintons may say they support Obama, but really they don’t because Obama pulled the race card on them, and trashed Hillary with all his lies. In this case, words speak louder than actions. Go Clintons! )))
It was hardly a one way street. Most of the smears Hillary pulled have now been taken up by the GOP, even though they have been proven false. Obama won, you people should get over it.
In addition, you should look at the issues and how each candidates position on them will change the direction of the country.
Both candidates will lower taxes. McCain will lower them for the rich, while the low and middle class will not see any cuts. Under Obamas tax plan, the low and middle class will see the greatest tax cuts, and only those families earning over $250,000 will see an increase.
Both candidates health plans will cost roughly the same ($1.6 vs $1.3 trillion over 10 years), yet McCains plan will actually cause more Americans to lose insurance, while Obamas will cause more Americans to obtain insurance, and will be more efficient in doing so.
McCain has a military background, and if you look at the bills he has introduced in congress, that is his primary focus. Obama has a strong educational backgroung and teaches constitutional law. If you look at the bills he has introduced in congress, he is across the board for Americans. Better health care, better housing, equal rights, increased usage of alternative fuels. Their stance on foreign policy is also different, with Obama favoring diplomacy and dialog over military force.
Obama wants to reduce gas prices immediately by closing the enron loophole, McCain just says that congress is investigating it.
If you just look at the issues and how they will steer the country, the choice is pretty obvious.
Posted by: Sally Johnson | October 4, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
I wonder if the Hillary supporter here know that McCain is running an advertisement that implies that Clinton is not qualified to be Vice President. See
http://kalmquist.blogspot.com/2008/10/mccain-advertisement-disses-hillary.html
Posted by: Kenneth Almquist | October 4, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
NOW she’s talking about Ayers?
does anyone else get the feeling she pretty much addresses “issues” as she find them out? lol!
what is she gonna talk about tomorrow? the fist bump????????
Posted by: GIGI | October 4, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
Obama’s Crazy Crew can promise the sun. Let’s get real! Stop letting the elite beltway media tell you who you should vote for. Check out PitbullPalin.org to show your vote.
Posted by: Johnathan Glen | October 4, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
“After that recent interview that wasn’t so successful because as I admitted on Fox TV the other day, I was annoyed and I was impatient with some of the questions, and I need to learn to I guess hide to some of that annoyance, some of the annoyance with some of the questions I received was because I am so apparently outside the Washington elite and the media elite, that sometimes
I don’t understand
why they are asking what they are asking
when Americans want to talk about
energy
independence,
they want to talk about
how they are gonna be able to send their kids to college,
to hear our solutions to challenges to
health care…”
SAYS SARAH PALIN, COMPLAINING ABOUT THIS:
“COURIC: Why isn’t it better, Governor Palin, to spend $700 billion helping
middle-class families
struggling with
health care,
housing,
gas and groceries?
… Instead of helping these big financial institutions that played a role in creating this mess?”
*let’s see if they take the bait* lol!
Posted by: GIGI - in memoriam of "I slander, you slander, we all slander" | October 4, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
Here’s more to see what O’Bambi will do for you.
INTERESTING DATA JUST RECEIVED ON TAXES
>
> Spread the word…..
>
> This is something you should be
> aware of so you don’t get blind-sided.
> This is really going to catch a lot
> of families off guard. It should
> make you worry.
>
> Proposed changes in taxes after 2008 General election:
>
> CAPITAL GAINS TAX
>
> MCCAIN
> 0% on home sales up to $500,000
> per home (couples) McCain does not
> propose any change in existing
> home sales income tax.
>
> OBAMA
> 28% on profit from ALL home sales
>
> How does this affect you?
> If you sell your home and make a profit, you
> will pay 28% of your gain on taxes.
> If you are heading toward retirement
> and would like to down-size your
> home or move into a retirement
> community, 28% of the money you
> make from your home will go to taxes. This
> proposal will adversely affect the
> elderly who are counting on the income
> from their homes as part of their retirement income.
>
> DIVIDEND TAX
>
> MCCAIN 15% (no change)
>
> OBAMA 39.6%
>
> How will this affect you?
> If you have any money invested in stock
> market, IRA, mutual funds,
> college funds, life insurance, retirement
> accounts, or anything that pays
> or reinvests dividends, you will now
> be paying nearly 4 0% of the money
> earned on taxes if Obama become president.
> The experts predict that ‘higher
> tax rates on dividends and capital gains
> would crash the stock market yet
> do absolutely nothing to cut the deficit.
>
> INCOME TAX
>
> MCCAIN (no changes)
>
> Single making 30K – tax $4,500
> Single making 50K – tax $12,500
> Single making 75K – tax $18,750
> Married making 60K- tax $9,000
> Married making 75K – tax $18,750
> Married making 125K – tax $31,250
>
> OBAMA
> (reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts)
> Single making 30K – tax $8,400
> Single making 50K – tax $14,000
> Single making 75K – tax $23,250
> Married making 60K – tax $16,800
> Married making 75K – tax $21,000
> Married making 125K – tax $38,750
>
> Under Obama your taxes will
> more than double!
> How does this affect you? No explanation
> needed. This is pretty
> straight forward.
>
> INHERITANCE TAX
>
> MCCAIN 0% (No change, Bush repealed this tax)
>
> OBAMA Restore the inheritance tax
>
> How does this affect you? Many families
> have lost businesses,
> farms and ranches, and homes
> that have
> been in their families
> for generations because they could not
> afford the inheritance tax.
> Those willing their assets to loved
> ones will not only lose them tothese taxes.
>
> NEW TAXES BEING PROPOSED BY OBAMA
>
> * New government taxes proposed on
> homes that are more than
> 2400 square feet
>
> * New gasoline taxes (as if
> gas weren’t high enough already)
>
> * New taxes on natural resources
> consumption (heating
> gas, water, electricity)
>
> * New taxes on retirement accounts
> and last but not least….
>
> * New taxes to pay for socialized medicine
> so we can receive the same
> level of medical care as other
> third-world countries!!!
Posted by: NEEDED INFO | October 4, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
Obama’s Crazy Crew can promise the sun. Let’s get real! Stop letting the elite beltway media tell you who you should vote for. Check out PitbullPalin.org to show your vote.
Posted by: Johnathan Glen | October 4, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
Obama’s angry Crazy Crew can promise the sun. Let’s get real! Stop letting the elite beltway media tell you who you should vote for. Check out PitbullPalin.org to show your vote.
Posted by: Johnathan Glen | October 4, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
I mean… ANYTHING is open to interpretation… pretty much AAANYTHING!
Sarah Palin can say “my beautiful daughter piper” and be interpreted as a lie, because… boy is that child ugly.
so why are we killing ourselves over?
OBAMA 08!
Posted by: GIGI | October 4, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm
This goes to show you again how shallow Sen Obama was. He had the chance to put an intellegent, repected, courageous woman on the ticket – truly making the Democratic Ticket historic. But NOOOOOO… His ego couldn’t handle it. Of course, to be fair, he would have had to endure an election where Sen Clinton would have continue to outshine him and knew by Nov, the rest of the country would have been asking to reverse the 1 and 2 slot names on the Dem ticket!
Posted by: RUKiddingMe?? | October 4, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
Hey, GIGI…Grow up. Or better yet – look in the mirror if you can stand to look at a REALLY UGLY face (your jeans probably barely fit too). Not fun when someone makes fun of you. Of course, your mockery is not even close to the truth (but I’m betting mine is on target!).
Posted by: RUKiddingMe?? | October 4, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
Parties aside. We are in bad shape because we have been under a leader that
has managed the country and the countries finances poorly. Should we risk voting for McCain/Palin because he is not honest about rasing taxes. Don’t you realize that the cost may not come in the form of taxes however it most assuredly shows up somewhere. If we cannot see that we are all connected we are in trouble. I wish McCalin and Palin were smarter and qualified. It would make things easier if we had two parties that had great candidates so if ones preference of Presidential candidate loses short of peoples being prejudice we would have the confidence tthat at least the other party has some intellegence and although we do not agree with many of the polices we know that it is not about oil and money. We know that he who is president cares about America. We know that saying anything to win and avoiding questions is not a charateristic of a president we want in office. We should all want our president to be truthful and forthcoming. We should not want our president to be sneaky and win without honor. Tell the truth be honorable and win because you held your head high with honor. Palin is not presidential material. She just isn’t. I wish she was but she is not. Let go of hatred and nonsense. This is not a game.
I think about it. We are in some real trouble if color is still and issue in america. We are in great trouble if we can’t get passed color.
It is not about color. It is not about gender. It is not about being folksy.
It is about America.
Posted by: Yves | October 4, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
Wow….you republicans are really trying to sell this Palin person as being someone worth listening to. Hillary was being polite in praising Palin…..but all of us know her dig at Palin came in the quote where she said, “What I’m hoping is on November 4 we are going to clean house from top to bottom, we’re going to get back to having people who know what they’re doing and can explain it,” Clinton said.lol Now Obama has a hard time getting his points across sometimes…I will say that, with his stumbling all over the place sometimes, but he does eventually come out with a coherent thought that is an attempt to answer directly the question being asked. It is also obvious that Obama has the intellectual capacity to be president. Now I’m not an Obamabot, I voted for Hillary, but it’s clear Palin has no business being where she is, period. And to say that Hillary is even remotely hoping that the McCain/Palin ticket wins, is ridiculous. I think it’s clear she wants the democrats to win. I’m voting for Biden and so are the Clintons. I wouldn’t vote for McCain/Palin if Hillary or Bill paid me….and most of us women who are true democrats are doing the same thing. A true democrat is cringing at the mere thought of Palin being the first woman ANYTHING. Good grief, leave it to the republicans to pick someone that looks good with little in the brain power department to keep the country from ever electing another woman.
Posted by: Ellie | October 4, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
Hillary, we miss you. I could never vote for Obama. I know you meant to say NoWay, NoHow, NOBama!! The Democratic party elite kicked the best candidate to the curb. We won’t forget in November.
McCain/Palin ’08!
Hillary ’12
Posted by: Carol | October 5, 2008, 12:51 am 12:51 am
Hey, GIGI…Grow up. Or better yet – look in the mirror if you can stand to look at a REALLY UGLY face (your jeans probably barely fit too). Not fun when someone makes fun of you. Of course, your mockery is not even close to the truth (but I’m betting mine is on target!).
Posted by: RUKiddingMe?? | Oct 4, 2008 8:45:21 PM
—————————–
“Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno.”
no, are YOU kidding ME?!
John McCain has absolutely not an ounce of diplomacy, the USA needs a crassy un-diplomatic presidnet like I need a hole in my head. We need to heal foreign affair foes, not increase them.
stupidity. it eventually shows.
Posted by: GIGI - McCain USES & DISRESPECTS women | October 5, 2008, 8:52 am 8:52 am
Hey, GIGI…Grow up. Or better yet – look in the mirror if you can stand to look at a REALLY UGLY face (your jeans probably barely fit too). Not fun when someone makes fun of you. Of course, your mockery is not even close to the truth (but I’m betting mine is on target!).
Posted by: RUKiddingMe?? | Oct 4, 2008 8:45:21 PM
————————————-
RUKiddingMe?? Her brain is fried by listening to Obama’s “pretty speeches”!!! (Obama as in.. “This Is Above My Pay-grade!)
I am off to a lucheon of former Hillary Clinton supporters, who will be voting for McCain-Palin! And, this event in Massachusetts my friends – a state in which Senator Clinton won the primery!! Ahahaha! Perhaps New York and Massachusetts will be “The November Surprise”!!…… :-)
The poor Obama fellows are simply freaking out because they were probably having the expectation that Senator Clinton was going to tear Governor Palin apart! Wishful thinking in their part… Senator Clinton has moral values and character – the poor Obama fellows lack in both. All you have to do is look at their “Chosen One” -”God’s Gift to America” as “Bella” Pelosi refers to Obama Bin Biden!!
Here is a must watch video by all morally sound American fellows who must know how dangerous the Marxist Fellow – Barack Hussein Obama will be for our country…
A VIDEO PORTRAIT OF BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA
http://www.eyeblast.tv/Public/Video.aspx?rsrcID=2036
IF ELECTED OBAMA WILL BE HAVING TEA WITH TERRORISTS
AMERICA THINK BEFORE YOU VOTE!
Posted by: Natasha | October 5, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am
I am Libertarian a former Hillary’s supporter. I’m voting for McCain/Palin/08.
GOD BLESS McCain/Palin and send them to the White House this November 2008.
Posted by: Beatrice | October 5, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am
Natasha,
So, is Boris Baddenov going to be at that luncheon with you? You are either A. Republican masguerading as a former Hillary support or B. Incredibly lacking political direction. I have no respect for anyone either (Republican or Democrat) that votes against their party’s interest. The leaders of the party merely reflect their party’s ideals and directions. It is not an Obama party. It is not a Clinton party. It is the Democratic party. Same on the Republican side. Support the party you have chosen or leave the party. But don’t try to convince yourself your still a member of the party when you vote and work against it. If you want to become an Independent liike me, fine. But do that before an election is held not during simply because your candidate lost. I hold absolutely no respect for people like that. Again, I sincerely doubt you were ever anything but a Republican.
Posted by: indy_voter | October 5, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm
“Due to the historically low expectations for Gov. Palin, were she simply to do an adequate job tonight, at no point cry, faint, run out of the building or vomit, you should consider the debate a tie.” Queen Latifah as “Gwen Ifill” in SNL tells the audience.======>
This is an incorrect stereotype of women. Never ever did Gov Palin once act like this. Cry, scream, faint, walk out.. are you joking??!! In fact, the reverse– as a newcomer on the scene with eggs being thrown on her– she took on tough pundits by hand and foot!!! Brave, strong and full of integrity!!
How can Fey and Poehler do this to their own gender and perpetuate the bad steretypes is beyond reason; that too.. just for a little silly laugh.
I’m not a Palin supporter.. but even her critics must agree:
Gov Palin did an EXCELLENT job in the VP candidate role- far far better than most would if they had 5 weeks on the scene with a newborn– that includes Biden, McCain, and even perhaps Hillary… folks!!
Posted by: champ | October 5, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
Also some statistics from the VP debate.
Number of times Biden used the word “also”: 3
Number of times Palin used the word “also”: 48
Posted by: Rudy | October 5, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
If Hillary didn’t keep telling everyone that a democrat must win,.. she could have ran on an independent ticket and beat 0bama.
Really? She thought that she was only creditable, because she was a democrat?
She should have said, she was the most compitant. Period.
She blocked herself. Even 0bama won’t have anything to do with her. except to use her.
Posted by: CarDriver | October 5, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
REASONS NOT TO VOTE FOR OBAMA
http://www.donotvoteforobama.com/
Posted by: Natasha | October 5, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
TIME: OBAMA AND THE NATIONAL ANTHEM
Have a look at the photo from the October 1, 2007 edition of “Time.” It shows Obama, Hillary and Bill Richardson at the Steak Fry of Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) on September 17 in Indianola, IA during the National Anthem. Richardson and Clinton have their hands on their heart. But not Obama. Does he perhaps believe that, like wearing the flag pin, the hand on the heart isn’t “true patriotism”?
During rendition of the national anthem when the flag is displayed, all present except those in uniform should stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. Men not in uniform should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart. — United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171.
Click here to see the “TIME” photo
http://www.donotvoteforobama.com/images/obama1
Posted by: Natasha | October 5, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
Obama’s Challenge
The campaign speaks to “Radicalism.”
By Stanley Kurtz
Today, in a piece in the Wall Street Journal entitled, “Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools,” I offer a report on my research into the archives of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC), an education foundation once headed by Barack Obama. As I explained in “Chicago Annenberg Challenge Shutdown?” the Richard J. Daley Library of the University of Illinois at Chicago first agreed to grant, then abruptly denied me, access to the files of this foundation. Subsequently, the Daley Library again reversed their decision and made the CAC files available.
↓ Keep reading this article ↓
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MTViMGRmMmYxZTgwZTFjYmFjODU5YzM4Y2MwM2ViMjY=
Posted by: Natasha | October 5, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
As I always thought Hillary Clinton is honest and fair and will give credit to where credit is due.To bad she keeps campaigning for Obama when he treated her so badly. Does she really think Obama is the best one to run the country right now? I wonder,it is sad to see her party control her and Bill right now. Especially after the treatment they gave her.
Posted by: conf1689 | October 5, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
When Sara Palin did not answered the “newspaper questions” I strongly view that she is smart because she is journalist by education as well and can hedge off a catch-ya questions even though it may post as a innocent one. (do any of you know exactly which magazine that you read at the doctor office or do you read any and as much as you can whatever that is there a your or your kids doctor office?) I read my newspaper at the local library and asked to use magazines at my doctor’s office as recycle product since they throw away about 40 per month. After I am done with those I also bring it to Hascom AFB Family exercise room for patron (mostly moms) to use while they are on various machines (Reuse+Recycle=Reduce waist)
Folks Sara Palin is smarter than we giving her credit for. For example she asked Bidden if she could call him as “Joe” is a set up so she can let him fall into her trap to lay on him a preset line as “Say it isn’t so JOE…” I think the intellectual folks as well as Bidden can see that he felled into her trap right after she make that well crafted line. I can sense from seeing that Bidden become impressed & respecting her more after the debate for her confident and her well thought coming back at him (mind you he knows that all eyes on her, cameras on her, the world is watching her) and she is not shaken yet she has the gall to stir him up instead.
I also want to say thanks to Mrs. Clinton for sticking up for another women that already paid her due and have the guts and attitude to work her way up to and through various glass sealing = Sara Palin. There has never been a women Mayor in her town, and there has never been a women Governor in her state — yet she worked on it on her own (will, intelligent, handwork…)with her spouse and family to get there not being handed for by her family connections or money or special interest set aside college entrance Ivy League university degree. * * Thanks to Mrs. Clinton * * for being a true women to herself + her female counter parts and last but not least to her younger female generations such as her daughter Chelsea, my daughters and Sara Palin daughters to recognize in the public forum for Sara Palin’s hard work, determination, sweats and tears for doing and accomplishing as much as Sara Palin did in there public life time up-to and including the preparation and deliberation of the VP debate. Mrs. Clinton was fair and kind to her women-kind as it should be. I have more respect for Mrs. Clinton for speaking up for Sara Palin in the public statement as well as VP candidate Geraldine Ferrero on MSNBC right after the debate “…Sara Palin is very much presidential …” via the completion of the debate with Bidden.
If any women or men take on with oil companIES and even won have my vote that they will fight for me, my family and most of all my country when in time of need. When a women or men fight against their own party (normally a kiss of death for their political career) and even WON over these forces then they truly work for the people and not for the good-old-boys network or soon to be golden parachute CEOs of corporations — thus they will get my vote as well as my dedication to teach my young children (who I have and will always bring them to the voting booth since 1st child was 18mos now up to JrHS … HS is a different story) about what is a leader and who has the quality of a leader for the people and to our country.
As a small business person I always look for a contractor currently busy and working on another project similar to my need and hire them to work on my job for our business rather than looking for a person that walk up to me and claim that they can do XYZ – then I have to check them out much more to have basis and confident to hire them. Grandpa always said give the job to the person that is currently busy since they always know how to get things done = Sara Palin currently working as an executive or president of a company = her state Alaska. Don’t get me wrong when the job is not as critical I also hired unemployed single mom, HS and college kids, to spread the work and income to those in need as well. Yet a big and important job I screened my project leader/manager wisely and most likely not to someone have no experience when I don’t have the time to have to teach them as OJT (On the Job Training.)
We should not be a continuous fool for expecting and believing everything politicians said and promised during the race but on their experience and character and proven records/accomplishments isn’t that what corporations and companies hiring gate checks as well and universities and colleges used to accept their student candidates. Why are we such a fool in believing only on thousand up on thousand of words from stump speeches and political ads. Don’t we all learned from what the media play it over and over what the prior candidates said that made them sound as fool when we hear it again and again and they wish that the media stop using and playing those empty promises lines or ridiculous sound bites = John Kerry said ” … ready to report for duty …” Howard Dean “… Yeehaa!…” Bush Jr. “… but I am the decider …” Nixon “… I am not a crook!…” – - should I say more or are you remembered these empty or silly political words and statements all during the campaign time. Please American wake up and stop being petty with the small and noise points but look deeper and harder at the things and qualities points in an candidate that is not even obvious to the eyes and mind at first.
I hope you join me to do your homework and hard work to chose the right person for this hard job P/VP but not using the emotional points that you might ware loosely on your sleeves to make your choices and decisions. – - Best
Posted by: VietNam Imigrant | October 6, 2008, 1:59 am 1:59 am
It is a shame we have to deal with Palin as a VP candidate. It is insulting to have her name in the same sentence as Hillary’s. They are the two extremes.
Even though I would have preferred Hillary as our next president, I completely understand what is good for my country.
As an american it is a clear choice based on the merits alone. Obama for the president. He is an elite not an elitist.
McCain? No way 4 more years of the same.
Posted by: Drake | October 6, 2008, 2:22 am 2:22 am
“IF ELECTED OBAMA WILL BE HAVING TEA WITH TERRORISTS
AMERICA THINK BEFORE YOU VOTE!
(Natasha)
”
Natasha: Are you serious? Do you have any idea what you are talking about. What a slander! Just because of a middle name? Do you seriously believe that?
Shame on you.
Good Lord!
Check your facts before mud slinging.
Otherwise it might backfire.
Posted by: Drake | October 6, 2008, 2:46 am 2:46 am
Hillary thinks we are going to clean house? Really, Hillary? How are you or we going to clean house when the sleze you are supporting is still dumping crud all over the house? Hillary Clinton is in fantasy land now. Support for Barack Obama is support for an absolute danger to the nature of this republic..and this comes from a lifelongDemocrat and former Hillary Rapid Responder….VOTE NOBAMA ON NOV 4.
Posted by: NewOrleansPuma | October 6, 2008, 9:04 am 9:04 am
Posted by: Natasha | Oct 5, 2008 11:31:32 AM
RIGHT “NATASHA”
Because Hillary LOVES IT when her supporters vote for the man who called her only child the ugly daughter of Janet Reno.
Right.
Posted by: GIGI | October 6, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
NEW LEADERS OF AMERICA (NLA)
OSAMA BIDEN
OSAMA BI/DEN
OSAMA BI(NLA)DEN
OSAMA BINLADEN
Posted by: me | October 6, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
NEW LEADERS OF AMERICA (NLA)?
OBAMA BIDEN
OBAMA BI/DEN
OBAMA BI(NLA)DEN
OBAMA BINLADEN
Posted by: what | October 6, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
Before anyone votes for Sen. Obama, think twice because you do not want Sen. Hillary Clinton to miss a second chance to run for the presidential office in 2012. If Sen. Obama wins, Sen. Hillary Clinton will not have a chance to run again in 2012. So, let’s see Obama’s ship sink so that Sen. Clinton can run in 2012.
Posted by: dream | October 6, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
For Sure,Lets WAKE UP WOMEN;If Sara Palin is not even BOTHERED to BREAST FEED {NEW 6 MONTHS NEW BORN BABY BOY”TRACK”},DO YOU EVEN THINK SHE CARES ABOUT AMERICAN CHILDREN AND WOMEN?”I GUESS HER DAUGHTER BRISTOL IS BREAST FEEDING HER BROTHER”After all she ALSO HAS MILK NOW!!!DON’T WASTE YOUR VOTES AMERICAN WOMEN,YOU ARE WAY TOO SMART THAN THAT!!PALIN is only Looking for a NAME,AS FOR McCain,Hmmmmm!He is only Looking for a “COMPESATION” for the {VIETNAM TORTURE}And then LEAVE US IN A DITCH(PALIN) AMERICA WILL NEVER GET OUT.OPEN YOUR EYES AMERICA!!!.
Posted by: Lina Yona | October 6, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm
Hussein Obama is an arabic man, not an african american. Black people are too smart to be fooled with this one. Do we really want to place the presendital command and our country’s future in the hands of Hussein Obama and his Arabic friends who hate everything America stands for.
Posted by: Barbara | October 7, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am
Vote for Obama and say goodbye to Hillary forever. I am a Republican who would have voted for Hillary, but only if Hussein Obama was not on the ticket. Others from my party would have voted for her also. The Dems cheated Hillary and the American Voter by not supporting her. She is smarter than either of the two canidates on either ticket. She was the only qualified person seeking the office of president. Hillary is an intelligent, lovely lady and so is Sara Palin. My dream ticket would be Clinton/Palin. Now that’s a winning ticket. Hey, snobs on the View, what would you think of that? Speaking of the view… how about letting the cute, young blond express her opinion. Talk about the old Washington Senators, how about the wahed up, washed out Woppi Goldberg and Barbara Walters, who like to listen to themselves talk. Maybe if we didn’t have to look at them, it would be easier to listen to them.
Posted by: Barbara | October 7, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am
If Barack were white ‘he’ would have been leading by a 15 point and made an easy win. Everybody knows it. Dark waters run deep in the US…
And. Someone who supports a Hillary/Palin-ticket knows its nonsense. Politically they are as far a part as can be. Why not focus on the politics instead?
Posted by: You need to be told | October 7, 2008, 4:13 am 4:13 am
Barack Hussein Obama actively sought and received the stamp of approval of a Marxist third party that operated briefly in Chicago between 1992 and 1998.
The New Party was a Marxist political coalition whose objective was to endorse and elect leftist public officials — most often Democrats. The New Party’s short-term objective was to move the Democratic Party leftward, thereby setting the stage for the eventual rise of new Marxist third party.
Most New Party members hailed from the Democratic Socialists of America and the militant organization ACORN. The party’s Chicago chapter also included a large contingent from the Committees of Correspondence, a Marxist coalition of former Maoists, Trotskyists, and Communist Party USA members.
Posted by: GoUSA247 | October 7, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
to GoUSA247.
Please forward me all references of the above excluding FOX news :) I can see your smearing campaigns of xenophobic innuendo are running wild. Please go home and look up McCarthy…it might ring a bell.
Posted by: You need to be told | October 12, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm