House Minority Leader Says U.S. in a ‘Recession’
"I said my prayers this morning, like I do every morning, so that I can understand and feel better about the vote that I cast," said House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, as the House prepared to vote — again — for the emergency economic rescue bill.
Growing emotional, his eyes moist, Boehner paused.
"But even if we pass this bill today," he continued, "let’s not kid ourselves. We’re in the midst of a recession. It’s going to be a rough ride, but it will be a whole lot rougher ride if we don’t pass this bill. I will say to all of you, when this bill passes today, remember those words ‘In God we trust,’ because we’re going to need his help."
Today marked the first time Boehner on the floor of the House said the U.S. was in a recession.
Republican leaders are generally reluctant to say the U.S. is in a recession. President Bush has never said it, and Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., tends to be elusive when asked if that word applies to the current economic climate.
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WoW. Clinton left our economy with a $230 billion surplus… under a democratic policy both Bill, Hillary, Obama, and other democrats share.
It’s time for a change. Obama/Biden08
It’s a landslide.
Posted by: Vanessa | October 3, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
I don’t know where the last person
writing got her imfo. from………
McCain/ Palin 08
Posted by: Joey | October 3, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
THE DEFINITION OF A RECESSION IS
2 STRAIT QUARTERS OF NEGATIVE GROWTH….
I”SAY VERY LOW GDP AT THIS MOMENT…
LET SEE THE 4TH QUARTER…MY GUESS IT”LL
BE NEGATIVE……
Posted by: ROBERT | October 3, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm
Vanassa:
I sure hope so…..
I would like to see senator Obama and Biden blow this election away…..
Posted by: shalom | October 3, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm
“Today marked the first time Boehner on the floor of the House said the U.S. was in a recession.”
Yeah but how many times has that guy cried on the floor? 5? 6? Come on Johnny, act like a man.
Posted by: dwightkschrute | October 3, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm
The latest Palin bomb: using “administers” as a noun.
Posted by: Danny | October 3, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
Let’s send Republicans to extinction … They need to pay for this … And while we are at it, let’s also put Bill O and Rush L out of business!! ENOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUGH!
Posted by: Democrat | October 3, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
it is time to kick Pelosi and the democrats out, and keep Bush as president.
Posted by: Sandy | October 3, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
Palins voice is likened to fingernails on a chalkboard, and those homespun anecdotes are gonna wear real thin, real quick. You betcha!
Posted by: grumpybumpy | October 3, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
Maybe Boehner can console himself by shooting off wooden arrows and getting drunk on Puerto Rican rum. Meanwhile, knowing I am part owner of $700 million in what our President calls “troubled assets, I feel quite secure knowing Sarah Palin can sell it on e-bay.
Posted by: ricky | October 3, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
‘I actually viewed the bumbling around the stage episode on TV while I was leaning over a patient today – and was somewhat concerned.
In light of the fact that this occurred just seconds after the facial issues that you documented in the other video is very very disturbing.
Let me put it like this. If I had seen a 70-75 year old man do that in front of me in the emergency room – that gentleman would be immediately admitted for what is known as a TIA.
This is a mini-stroke that often comes before a big huge one. It is likely that if this occurred – Senator McCain may have realized something was wrong – and immediately began looking for an exit.
This bumbling lost behavior followed by the initial onset of the symptoms is very commonly described by family members witnessing such events. Regardless, he should be admitted to the hospital for observation – ruled out for strokes with tests – and possibly be immediately begun on certain meds to attempt to abort any other such attacks.
I have not been able to find video of his speech patterns around the time of the facial problems today – it would be interesting to note if there were any changes. If it does turn out to be a TIA – the patient would need further evaluation to note if his carotid arteries are blocked.
I showed this video to 3 colleagues today – AND a neurologist – all of us agreed – this is concerning and should be immediately evaluated. It is, however, impossible to make medical diagnosis via a video – unless you are Bill Frist or Tom Coburn. I would caution you to be careful about making any insinuations about his medical condition based on just that alone. However, I am concerned enough about what I saw of Senator McCain today that he should be seeing a doctor immediately.
Just talked to two more buddies – again – they totally agree – one of whom is ardent McCain supporter.”
Posted by: jeru | October 3, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
I keep saying their is a lack of accountability with the Bush admin and with McCain- We have been in a reccession for some time-ask the middle class-and low income families-times are tough for people.
GO OBAMA/BIDEN WE NEED CHANGE TO BRING HOME CHANGE IN OUR POCKETS!
Posted by: Sophia | October 3, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
Someone should tell Sarah Palin. Last night, in her Morning Again in America speech, I felt like I was watching theatre. I expected her to break out into “Springtime for Hitler and Germany.” No, I don’t think she is a Nazi….as far as I know…
These are tough times, and Sarah gave a cheerleader speech that even Ronald Reagan, in the worst years of dementia, would not have stooped to – in a week when the Dow closed lower than any week in decades and millions of Americans lost money for their kid’s educations and millions of retirees lost money for their dreams. The woman is either truely dim, or so wealthy that she thinks this won’t hit her. Or both. BP gives nice bonuses. And it’s a good time to be a millionaire – like Sarah – the girl next door.
Posted by: mara | October 3, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
Venessa, Thank you for giving Clinton the credit of a $230 billion surplus! Hmmmm, if I remember correctly, BO and all his minions (including you) were trying to pull Clinton down. How times have changed! WOW! Also proves the point that Hillary should have been the Dem Nominee – not the inexperienced, far-left socialist that Bammy is!
Posted by: Beckie | October 3, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
I LOVE THE REPUBLICANS!!
Running around saying Palin won the debate last night, when every single poll gives it to Biden…
Also when did not answering the questions and reading two minute mini-speeches off of “note cards” (as Palin did), equate to somebody being smart and in command of the facts?
Biden wasn’t reading the “answers” off of “note cards” and he answered the questions thoughtfully that the moderator asked!!
Palin is still the same DUNCE we saw on SNL and in the Katie Couric interviews!!!
If the Republicans think differently, then will she be on the Sunday shows like Biden will be this weekend??
Posted by: Davis | October 3, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
The fundamentals of our economy are strong. We will be greeted as liberators. I told the Congress thanks, but no thanks. The check is in the mail. The proof is in the pudding. Why do you hate America?
Posted by: ricky | October 3, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
Thank you for explaining my name to me – it didn’t have anything to do with the post, but it was nice of you to give me information. It was also a personal attack. I believe that Mr. Tapper suggested that those were censored by ABC. It’s also a little confusing. I need to draw in “claws” – and thanks again for the compliment, but the candidate for VP should perform like a barracuda?
Someone should also tell Sarah Palin, before her next Morning in America/Shining City on a Hill speech that more jobs were lost in the last quarter than in the past five years. We don’t have to look backward – we can simply look at the day’s news. I would love to hear Sarah give her Morning in America speech in Youngstown or Michigan.
Posted by: mara | October 3, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
“Thank you for giving Clinton the credit of a $230 billion surplus! Hmmmm, if I remember correctly, BO and all his minions (including you) were trying to pull Clinton down”
When did Obama ever attack the budget surplus?
Obama has based his tax policies on Clinton’s.
Just more lies from Beckie.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 3, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
WOW guess Vanessa forgot all clinton left us with.Cheating on his wonderful wife then lied over and over about it,he was shameless the way he talked about what went on during that time,oh but guess morals dont matter ,and you can see how far we have went since that time.They all have been lying stealing ,cheating since then.We need to send them all packing and get a new goverment that will be by the people and for the people.Cut the money out and no one will want the job.
Posted by: fedup | October 3, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
Beckie
You do get when the GOP and Fox News say Obama is far left and the most liberal Senator in government what they base that on is that Obama has voted against George Bushes budgets and policies more than anyone else in the senate dont you ?
I call that wise the guy that votes against Bush more than anyone else deserves to be President!
Did you know that ?
Posted by: James | October 3, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
Palin’s response:
Darn it! Say it isn’t so John! What are you gonna do about it? wink wink.. You betcha’ my Maverick and I will reform the greed that’s like on Wall Street.
Posted by: Paige | October 3, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
James, your point being??!! By your logic, YOU SHOULD BE PRES!! Your guy will ruin this country – can’t you see that Bammy is the DEM’s own George Bush! Hope you never get the chance to find out……
Posted by: Beckie | October 3, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
Palin was a joke if anyone believes that pretend person they saw I feel sorry for them!
I cringed ever time she tried that folky stuff!
Posted by: James | October 3, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
Ryan C, I know – it is just a fairy tale! LOL!! Bammy hates the Clintons so much that he could not bear to even entertain the thought of asking Hillary to be VP! He tried to ruin their reputatation, but Hill will be back in 2012!
Posted by: Beckie | October 3, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm
The Democrats know it, they caused it.
Their bailout bill with all the additives was to pay back their friends with the help of the economy set up.
Posted by: seah | October 3, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
“Bammy hates the Clintons so much that he could not bear to even entertain the thought of asking Hillary to be VP”
Why would he pick Hillary?
She fulfills non of the traditional grabs for a VP (no swing state, not experienced, not popular with the general public etc) and her net fav rating was negative or zero at best.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 3, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
Beckie
The point is the base of your attack on Obama is being far left I just thought Id point out what that tag meant!
Far left tag is based on his voting record with george bush policies and budgets.. Give the fact Bush has lead this country into a dumb war the biggest mistake in Americas foriegn policy history…
Given that Bush has killed the American economy which even you know as you are aware that Clinton left a surplus!
Obama voting against Bush more than anyone else seems like a good thing to me!
Whats your point Beckie ?
You want for more years of this Bush/ McCain disgrace ???
Posted by: James | October 3, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
To dwightkschrute about Boehner.He’s more of a man then all the others in washington.I had rather see a humble man thats not ashamed that he sheds a few tears for our country we need more like him,rather than these who are proud and exalting self,GOD says he will resist the proud and exalt the humble.Man thinks humblness is weakness but their wrong it is a blessing to be humble maybe you should try sheding a few tears.
Posted by: fedup | October 3, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm
Ryan C and James – Give it up! You are both wrong and nothing you say can convince me otherwise! Your guy is a far-left socialist and he hates the Clintons! Why not admit it and move on?
Posted by: Beckie | October 3, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm
Beckie
I also think Hillary will be back in 2012……… As Obama’s running mate!
I really dont get or don’t believe people like you if Obama did lose this election Hilary will never get the support of Obama supporters! Not because of hate for Clinton but because of people like you!
Hilary knows that so why dont you ?
Hillary will be running for president in 2016 with the support of Obama and his supporters!
Posted by: James | October 3, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
James, I hope that Hillary never has anything to do with Obama.
Posted by: Barracuda | October 3, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
“Ryan C and James – Give it up! You are both wrong and nothing you say can convince me otherwise!”
I am sure we both realize that facts and truth had little influence on you.
“Your guy is a far-left socialist and he hates the Clintons! Why not admit it and move on?”
Because admitting something that is in fact not true would be lying.
And personally I like to leave the lying to right wingers
Posted by: Ryan C | October 3, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
If we aren’t in a recession now, we soon will be. We have this $700B timebomb hanging over our heads and $150B of sweetened PORK in it. We won’t be able to spend any money because our taxes will be so high. AMT relief? How many of ‘middle class’ America does that affect? It’s all a smokescreen. We weren’t able to stop them, although we yelled and e-mailed and called. Now we need to vote every single traitor that voted for it out of office. Print the list and remember it on election day.
Posted by: Mary | October 3, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
She already has…
Hillary Clinton issued a statement shortly after the debate praising Joe Biden’s performance:
“Tonight’s debate underscored the stark choice American families face in this election,” she said. “I’ve known Senator Biden a long time – as Americans saw tonight, he is a strong, passionate and experienced leader. Like Barack Obama, Joe Biden understands both the economic stresses here at home and the strategic challenges in Iraq, Afghanistan, and around the world.
“We saw yet again that Senator McCain and Sarah Palin will offer only more of the same failed policies of the Bush Administration. America’s hardworking Middle Class families deserve better.”
Posted by: James | October 3, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
HELLO MODERATOR GOOD TO SEE YOU BACK.
Posted by: Barracuda | October 3, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
Now why. all of a sudden are these new names and new voices popping up – pretty nasty ones – trying to convince us that there are millions of Hillary supporters who support Sarah Palin rather than Obama – when every poll (left or right) shows a significant shift in just the other direction? They all say the same thing . What was it that Frances Mcdormand (in her Sarah Palin accent) said in Fargo? “Now that would be quite a coincidence, dontcha think?”
And on Sarah Palin’s good old girl accent, can somebody explain to me why she didn’t have it in the Alaska debates – not a trace of Norma Rae – but she has it now? I’ve never met a kid raised by school teachers who talked anything like that. I was raised by a mother who worked cleaning houses and waitressing – and she didn’t talk anything like that either. What an imposter.
And I hate to break the bad news – but America took a giant step toward socialism this week – the biggest in history – and it wasn’t through Obama – it was through a bill written by George Bush and his friends. He couldn’t sign it fast enough.
Posted by: mara | October 3, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
Ryan C
“And personally I like to leave the lying to right wingers”
I didnt know we had a choice ? LOL
Posted by: James | October 3, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
James,
Whether they want to admit it or not women all over America owe Sarah Palin, as well as those who came before her, like Geraldine Ferraro, Shirley Chisholm and of course Hillary Clinton, a great debt of thanks.
Sarah’s performance last night was a slap in the face to the gross mis-characterization by the media. It is important for all women that she came out strong despite the attempt to silence and destroy her. I love Sarah Palin. Even if she is of a different ideology– than my DNC roots it’s symbolic.
Posted by: Barracuda | October 3, 2008, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm
Mara are you saying that Sarah is using a fake accent? That is a new one. I will have to thank her dialect coach.
Posted by: Barracuda | October 3, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
I am at a loss how the message from the House Minority leader turn into an attack on everyone connected with this election. Our poor character has really come out in this election. Today with the signing of the recovery bill you saw our country turned towards socialism. This is the subject which you should be blogging about not the mud slinging in the post.
Everyone knows these postong are looked at all over the world and what a picture we show of angry and insult. No wonder no one likes us. We do not even tear our enemies apart like we do in blogs. Blogging made be a god given right but not a right to behave in the manner many of you have chosen.
Posted by: William | October 3, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
Barracuda,
Woman owe Palin nothing! Why do they owe her ? She was tapped she didnt run and get 18m votes she hasnt been working for American woman or families for years!
Her state has the highest rape rate of all of America..
Her sollution: Charged woman for rape kits…
She thinks woman that are raped should have the right to choose!
Infact she thinks all woman shouldnt have the right to choose!
She isnt smart !
She isnt honest!
She just got picked in the hope that woman across America are so stupid they will just vote for a woman and not look at policies or issues!
Woman across America owe Mccain the bird for thinking they are that stupid!
Thank god none of the woman in my family are that stupid!
Posted by: James | October 3, 2008, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm
Mara
I was a Hillary supporter. I am not a new name so I don’t know what you are insinuating- if it is me that you are referring to. I have been coming to the abc boards since the primary but only recently came to the political radar. I posted but on the other kind of board-the one with the little script that you have to register for.
As for Palin she has changed many democrats minds. I have two friends who who were voting OBAMA…PERIOD. Not so fast, they said after the first debate and especially not after last night. They see that Sarah isn’t who teh media has portrayed her to be! My friends were were ashamed that they had spewed all of the media talking points against Sarah without really looking into them. They may even “hold their noses” and vote Republican.
That gives me hope. I will not vote for Obama. My daughter is finally coming around to McCain.
Posted by: Barracuda | October 3, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
All this talk about the Clintons make me sick they were bad news then and bad news now!
The Clinton messed up this country and Bush has tried to fix it! McCain and Palin will get it right!
Palin will be President in 2012
Posted by: Palin for President! | October 3, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
James I am not stupid. Your words only make me want to support her more.
Posted by: Barracuda | October 3, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
Sarah Plain didn’t come out strong. She was a legend in her own mind. She answered questions that no one asked and didn’t answer the questions she was asked. Swing voters came out after the debate almost 2:1 for Obama/Biden. She came off as a college cheerleader in one of the roughest weeks in American history. She winked like a teenager. She had a worldview that I have never seen in reality – “Let’s not look at the past 7 years – we’ll pretend they never happened” – even though we will pay for them for the rest of lives. She lied at pretty much every opportunity, although she apparently prides herself on being a Christian. She was able to complete sentences – does that make her qualified? And I don’t buy yet another “I am going to cross party lines because I love Sarah so much.” Sorry – the numbers don’t add up – and I’ve seen too many posts that say almost the same thing. She has the lowest approval ratings of anyone in the race, but all of a sudden Democrat women are coming out in record numbers? I don’t buy it.
Posted by: mara | October 3, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
The latest TIME poll from this month and today is only October 3rd.
Among the poll’s most dramatic findings: McCain is losing female voters faster than Sarah Palin attracted them after the Republican National Convention. Obama leads McCain by 17 points with women, 55%-38%.
Posted by: Paige | October 3, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
Recession? Didn’t he get the McCain campagin talking points? He needs to learn the McCain/Palin strait talk. Fundementals are sound, Americans are whiners.
Posted by: DMR | October 3, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
Mara, I was a delegate for Hillary. When I first saw that Hillary was going to lose the nomination to Obama. I was politically at a stand still. I didn’t know if I could vote for a Republican so I looked to the Green Party. I considered Obama until the debate. I also considered being a McKinney supporter. But Obama is not a leader in my book and never will be. I am registered in Virginia and now that being called a swing state I’m going to vote McCain/Palin. I feel very good about it. Not only do I admire John Mccain and his service, I love Sarah Palin. I will no longer be abused by the (un)Democratic Party. Plus, with Palin on the ticket I can maintain my commitment to the 30% solution. So it’s a vote I will be happy to cast.
Posted by: Barracuda | October 3, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm
From The Nation today:
But for decades, the voting-age population has been predominantly female: women vote at a greater rate and usually a little differently from men. Despite all the talk of disaffected Hillary supporters crossing over to the GOP after Obama’s nomination, serious pollsters found no such thing.
Posted by: Paige | October 3, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
Paige, I am sure that I am uninvited to sit at the cool lunch table with the DNC Obamabots. They lost my vote. They will lose my daughters vote. But they could not care less anyway.
Posted by: Barracuda | October 3, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
“Why would he pick Hillary?”
Oh just maybe because she had more votes than he did. And that frustrated him. Tore into his huge ego. Made his wife angry. He doesn’t need more of that.
And since Palin reminds him of Ronald Reagan, he needs Ol’ Joe to make him look young and Presidential.
It won’t work, but he believes it.
Posted by: len | October 3, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
What’s this I hear about the global economic crisis?
I thought the fundamentals of the economy were sound a couple weeks ago.
Now gee willikers, where did I hear that?
Posted by: Danny | October 3, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
Barracuda – Just stating the facts – Here’s some more from your state:
Clinton supporters: Palin won’t get our vote
Virginia’s Clinton backers say election about more than gender
On the day of Sarah Palin’s speech before the Republican National Convention, former Hillary Clinton supporters in Virginia said McCain’s vice presidential choice would fail in its attempt to woo former Clinton voters.
“I was incensed and insulted that Sen. John McCain thought he could easily replace my vote for one woman with another,” said Terry Holland, a Clinton supporter in Williamsburg who was inspired to volunteer for the first time for Barack Obama’s campaign on Saturday following the selection of Gov. Palin on Friday. “It was the choice of Palin that motivated me to get personally involved in the campaign. That was the straw that broke the camel’s back. That was what picked me up and made me go down there and offer to help.”
Holland, Sen. Mary Margaret Whipple (D-Arlington) and Clinton Superdelegate Susan Swecker held a news conference call Wednesday to discuss McCain and Palin’s stances on the issues that matter to Clinton supporters.
Palin will deliver a major address Wednesday night to the Republican National Convention in St. Paul, Minn.
“Clearly, McCain decided that he had to do something very unusual to try to pull this election out. He made a very quick and obviously somewhat un-vetted choice for Vice President to try to energize his campaign,” Sen. Whipple said. “McCain has done the Democratic Party a favor. Women are even more energized for Obama and are going to work very hard to elect him.”
Swecker, a superdelegate and a member of Clinton’s Virginia Steering Committee, said Palin stands for more of the same policies of John McCain and George Bush.
“Women’s support is not automatically transferable and it is condescending to us to think that it would be,” Swecker said. “There’s not any difference between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama and Joe Biden on the major issues facing our country. Too much is at stake in this election — and this team of Obama and Biden is the one that will bring our troops home, get our economy on track and help middle-class families.”
Posted by: Paige | October 3, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
Will McCain finally state the obvious and follow Boehner’s lead? He needs some gimmicks to win back voters on the economy…
Posted by: matt | October 3, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
Barracuda – My lunch table is super cool. It’s full of friends and family with different backgrounds and political persuasions.
Posted by: Paige | October 3, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
Paige, I was not disputing anything, but I know many women who are not voting for Obama who voted for Hillary.When Obam supporters say the things you are saying you are desperate in an attempt to cast a shadow on former Hillary supporters who are not voting for Obama. Obama wants to stop us from gaining momentum, to keep us from growing, to keep us from affecting real change in the DNC and politics. I was a Hillary delegate and I am voting for Mccain. A man that I find to be more deserving of POTUS than Obama. And also has a a commitment to service. Many women are protesting the sexist Democratic Primary Election of 2008 by voting for McCain/Palin.
Posted by: Barracuda | October 3, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm
Paige so is my lunch table. Diverse and very loving.
Posted by: Barracuda | October 3, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm
Recession, no ####. I think 9 straight months of job losses attest to the facts. But, when did Republicans start caring about the facts? These people might as well be living on Pluto. Republicans, take your snotty, condescending rich brat candidates and go home. Its all over for you except the last few dead-enders.
Posted by: Mike | October 3, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
Barracuda – I didn’t actually “say” anything. I posted current articles about former Hillary supporters and a press release from your home state. I’m sorry if those newspapers and polls are upsetting to you.
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This part is from me: The most sexist, male chauvinistic treatment of a woman I have ever seen is the McCain camp to Palin. Be seen, not heard. Exploit your children for our political gain. Don’t speak to the press, you may make a mistake.
You are decrying sexism, yet voting for a man whose record and history is ripe with it.
McCain:
opposes fair pay for women
voted against requiring insurance companies to cover the cost of birth control – no worries- viagra is covered!
McCain has a 0% rating from NARAL for support of women’s issues.
Mcain called his wife the most vile “C” word.
MAde jokes about women enjoying being raped by gorillas
Jokes about Chelsea Clinton being so Ugly.
The list is long – but if sexism is your soapbox, why would you support the candidate that has the greatest record of it both legislatively and verbally?
If you are upset over what the DNC has done, can’t you be more impactful working within your own party yo make change for the better than attempting to be a spoil-sport?
Posted by: Paige | October 3, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
STATEMENT FROM HILLARY CLINTON ON TONIGHT’S VICE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE
Hillary Clinton issued the following statement responding to tonight’s vice presidential debate:
“Tonight’s debate underscored the stark choice American families face in this election.
“I’ve known Senator Biden a long time – as Americans saw tonight , he is a strong , passionate and experienced leader. Like Barack Obama , Joe Biden understands both the economic stresses here at home and the strategic challenges in Iraq , Afghanistan , and around the world.
“We saw yet again that Senator McCain and Sarah Palin will offer only more of the same failed policies of the Bush Administration. America ‘s hardworking Middle Class families deserve better.”
Posted by: Paige | October 3, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm
Paige sorry to burst your bubble but I actually did not read your post when I saw that you copied and pasted. I most likely read it somplace else. You point is puzzling to me because I know people who are not voting Obama who voted for Hillary. Period. I am one of them. I was a delegate. Even Geraldine Ferraro said she may not vote for Obama.
But keep believing what the media is telling you Paige. Take a chance on feeling relieved that there will be less doors for you Obama supporters to vote on.
Posted by: Barracuda | October 3, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
Obama is a big part of why we are heading towards a recession. Thanks to his ACORN and equal opportunity mortgage lending, people were granted mortgages beyond their means. Now everyone is on the hook.
McCain needs to bring the hammer out, start naming names.
Posted by: Captain America | October 3, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
Gosh darn it, John Boehner. Didn’t cha know that yer not supposed to say the “r” word on the doggone House floor?
I think I now need to change my name from “Blue in Michigan.” Things are looking up since learning that McCain is packing his bags.
Posted by: Blue in Michigan | October 3, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
Barracuda,
You might want to take a peak at realpolitics.com and the current electoral map.
Things are getting bluer by the week.
This former Hillary supporter is for Obama as are, based on all of the polls out there, the majority of women in U.S. McCain does not speak for me as a woman and the issues that are important to my well-being and best interests.
Posted by: Blue in Michigan | October 3, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
Now that Paulson got his Bailout, what happened to that “Long and Painful Recession Problem” scare that was supposed to be cured, greatly implied or otherwise Bush and Congress will not issue and parroted his recession warnings to us?
What in the world can we understand that even our elected Senators and Representatives like Rep Boehner can vote for the Bailout if they already believe we are already in midst of recession that we understood this Paulson Bailout will solve.
Where were the media reporters and the economic and financial experts that now says that this bailout would not ease credits; would not deter recession that our country may have already have before this bailout; would not solve rising economic problem of high unemployment; and would not ease our country’s reliance on imported goods and foreign oil.
Simply stating our obvious questions:
What in the name of God and Allah and/or the Devil is the real purpose and objective of this massive $700B Paulson Bailout?
Are we to understand that our country and us the citizenry that this Paulson Bailout would not do us any bit of good?
That Bush and Congress should have allocated and spent that $700B in directly investment in domestic manufacturing and productions and jons creations, etc.
From what we now can understand from this Paulson Bailout Bill, are we really getting worthless Mortgage Backed Securities some or if not most were the products creations of Paulson and he sold at Goldman Sachs while he was the CEO in 2006.
So where will that leave us on Paulson Bailout shenanigans?
If I am not mistaken in my understanding that this Bailout is just really a massive handout to former cohorts of Paulson in Wall Street and without any benefit to us?
Posted by: Zee P Bee | October 3, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm
Blue in MI -Let me save you some time. Don’t bother w/Barracuda. Read my previous post. I actually posted the polls, articles and info. on the status of those “hillary” supporters. She has no interest which is what happens when you are a Republican posing as a former Hillary supporter.
Posted by: Paige | October 3, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm
Blue, I do look at the polls. I am Still voting for McCain. My family is. It is interesting that Obama supporters bring up polls which sort of seems to me as if you need that sense of security for yourselves. I have been in campaigns. Gore and Kerry were both suppose to win. I think the polls impress the younger ones more than me in my late 30′s.
If you Obama supporters are relying upon polls that is a big mistake. You are also antagonizing people (race baiting, name calling) that are crossing over or leaning McCain but are not sure. I find the persuasiveness of Obama supporters to be ZERO. I am am former Hillary supporter yet none of you have said anything to convince me to vote for Obama. You have just called Sarah stupid and produced polling numbers. That still does not get me to vote for the guy.
Posted by: Barracuda | October 3, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm
Paige you said
“If you were you would have been interested in what I posted as it is a statement from former Clinton delegates and Super delegates from your state. ”
Why would I need to read something you pasted about delegates from my state when I was a Clinton delegate from Virgina? I know delegates that are voting for Obama and others who are not. I was in Denver, Paige. I saw what you pasted and thought I don’t know where this poster is going when she is posting things that obviously I have seen. After all I am the Virginian here. I think you are upset because I am not following the model that the press has told you about. I interviewed with local news papers and such. I was at a press conference at the Small Library at UVA.
Posted by: Barracuda | October 3, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm
“We’re in the midst of a recession.” What was your first clue?
Posted by: DT VA | October 3, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm
No Barracuda – I don’t care who you vote for, but your stance is confusing. (see post at 9:13) Vote Mccain on the issues, but to vote McCain over sexism is dumbfounding. (once again see post at 9:13)
Posted by: Paige | October 3, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
Paige and you are voting for Obama, a man that is giving lip service to women like you. A man who ran the most sexist and racist primary campaign in US History. A man who ran Alice Palmer into the ground. A man who referred to a reporter as “sweetie”, A man who pays the women who work for them less than the men.
No I will not vote for Obama.
Posted by: Barracuda | October 3, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
Gore and Kerry were both suppose to win.
________________________________________________
The data shows at this point in October they were both trailing Bush.
Posted by: Paige | October 3, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm
Paige I was a part of that campaign too and that is not what many polls said and that certainly was not the case with Gore.
I actually gave you guys and said don’t lisetn to them they overpoll. That is all. Believe what you would like.Don’t be surprised if it does not turn out the way you would like it to in November and Obama loses.
Posted by: Barracuda | October 3, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm
Guys this is advice to all of you no matter what party you are rooting for.
Dont put too much faith in poll number. Hillary was supposed to lose in New Hampshire and she did not. Zogby, Gallup, Rasmussen, et al., have all had things go wrong with their polls. There is also the blow back effect.
Posted by: Barracuda | October 3, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm
Barracuda- Here is one of Many-
October 9, 2000
Web posted at: 5:05 p.m. EDT (2105 GMT)
WASHINGTON (CNN) — Republican presidential hopeful George W. Bush maintains his 8 point lead over his Democratic rival, Vice President Al Gore, in Monday’s CNN/USA Today/Gallup tracking poll.
___________________________________
I think you believe what you want to believe, hear what you want to hear and when it comes to sexism McCain has Obama beat verbally and legislatively. The man calls his wife a C**t, makes jokes about rape and you are crying foul over “sweetie”? I still believe you are a Republican -
Posted by: Paige | October 3, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
“Paige and you are voting for Obama, a man that is giving lip service to women like you. A man who ran the most sexist and racist primary campaign in US History. A man who ran Alice Palmer into the ground. A man who referred to a reporter as “sweetie”, A man who pays the women who work for them less than the men.”
For crying out loud…
The sex gender card was played by male pundits from the right who disliked Hillary. Remember the nasty joke from McCain about Chelsea Clinton
The nasty remarks from guys like Rush Limbaugh, Bill O’Reilly at the expense of Hillary..
Posted by: CLabs | October 3, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm
McCain’s respect for women…
“Though no tape of McCain’s quip has yet emerged, this is what he reportedly said:
“Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly?
Because her father is Janet Reno.”
The joke may be crude, but it pales in comparison with the published details surrounding the presidential sex scandal. McCain’s two-liner conveys some interesting insights into what he considers humorous (lesbianism, a young woman’s physical appearance), particularly since it was delivered to a Republican crowd. Remember, this is the party that champions pro-family values. “
Posted by: CLabs | October 3, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
No – I think her accent is her accent. I think her gonnas and thinkin’s and y’alls are all new. In her debate clips from Alaska – she spoke perfect English – which you would expect a school teacher’s kid and a candidate for governor. Since she took on the roll of “blue collar Mom” for McCain – she speaks as if she didn’t graduate from high school – because apparently somebody told her that’s what Americans want to hear. It didn’t work for Hillary and it’s not working for Sarah. She has the worse approval rating of all candidates. There are people who just didn’t make it through high school and I’m not putting them down. My Dad was one of them. But he didn’t pretend to be dumber than he was – ever. Listen to the Alaska debates. You’ll hear a different Sarah Palin. By the way, any idea why she didn’t release any of her financial records until after the debate? Do you think it might be because she makes 5 times more than most Alaskans and is a millionaire? I want her to go to Youngstown and talk to them about how much she knows about hurtin’ – and she should take Todd with her – after all – it must be tough to be on leave from a $100K/year job with BP. How d they ever make ends meet?
But I was glad today that Sarah realized that we’re going through some tough times. Last night she thought that was just all that looking back – like to the past two weeks.
Posted by: mara | October 3, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
Bush, McCain, Boehner and their whole corrupt conservative ideology are certainly in a very deep recession these days.
Rightly so and thank God.
Posted by: kurt | October 3, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm
I don’t want a christian fundamentalist to wink at me.
Posted by: Mr. Johnson | October 3, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm
To the blind person on here honestly trying to suggest Obama is worse about women than McCain? This one is easy. Go to their websites. On Obama’s you’ll find a large section under issues marked “women.” On McCain’s you will find no mention whatsoever of women. Then there’s the whole he didn’t support the recent equal pay bill. Or support birth control being covered by insurance. I won’t continue to bore. But the list is long, and it’s clear McCain is NO friend of women.
Posted by: Sandra | October 3, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
Barracuda – I agree with you. Polls can be dead wrong especially if you don’t take margins of error into account. But the polls show overwhelmingly that the Hillary voters have moved to Obama. I’m not sure where you are from – and you certainly don’t have to say – but most women who were Hillar supporters are not supporting Sarah Palin. The Republican women who were for McCain support Sarah Palin – and not all of them do. There seem to be a burst of posts from supposed Hillary supporters who all of a sudden love Sarah – I wonder why that would be? Especially when their posts don’t match up with what American women are saying – in polls, on the street – or anywhere but blogs? You should vote for whoever best represents your beliefs. If that is John McCain – and you can figure out what he believes in now – in 2008 – not the John McCain who disappeared in 2006 – then that’s who you should vote for.
Posted by: mara | October 3, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
NO politician who wants to overturn Roe v. Wade is supportive of women.
The religious right has an ideological obsession with “life” as a concept; they care less about the what happens in the lives of millions of women of flesh and blood.
Posted by: margaret | October 3, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
Mr. Johnson, I love your post.
Posted by: mara | October 3, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
Well Mara I am in Virgina and the polls did not get me and my family then. Hillary delegate here, not voting for Obama.
Posted by: Barracuda | October 3, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
And Sandra Neither is Obama. I have been to the website. Thanks but, no thanks. Aside from being a woman I am also human and will not vote for Obama, the man child on training wheels whose campaign whines about and demeans any woman that has run against him. At least McCain was a MAN and chose a woman. I am surprised that Obama supporters are not expecting Hillary to show up and debate for him.
Posted by: Barracuda | October 3, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
On pay equity. Sen. Obama is a co-sponsor of the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act and the Paycheck Fairness Act, legislation to end wage discrimination against women.
On reproductive rights. Sen. Obama is a co-sponsor of the Prevention First Act, to strengthen access to contraception and reproductive health care, and prevent unwanted pregnancies. He strongly supports Roe v. Wade and will oppose any efforts to overturn it.
On violence against women. Sen. Obama supports the continued reauthorization of the Violence Against Women Act — of which Sen. Joe Biden is the chief sponsor — as well as the Security and Financial Empowerment (SAFE) Act, which is legislation to provide legal, medical and financial support to victims of domestic violence.
On the Supreme Court. Sen. Obama opposed the nominations of George Bush’s extreme right-wing nominees to the Supreme Court, who have consistently ruled against women’s rights,
For more than a decade, Barack Obama has said “yes” to women’s rights, while John McCain has consistently said “no” – NO to pay equity, NO to contraceptive access and reproductive rights, NO to appointing Supreme Court judges who will uphold women’s rights and civil rights, NO to funding shelters and other anti-violence programs, and NO to supporting working moms and dads with policies that support work/life balance.
Posted by: Sandra | October 3, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
“I am so sorry I’m such a weasel.”
— Sarah Palin, October 8, 2000
Posted by: Girl Power | October 3, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm
Well Baracuda, if you like McCain, go vote for him.
But the records has shown that McCain don’t respect women, he shows no respect for Hillary Clinton and he certainly shows no respect for the truth.
And pork queen Palin wasted 15 million dollars tax-payers money for an ice-hockey stadium but didn’t want to pay for the rape kits.
Posted by: CLabs | October 3, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
Sandra, I actually never said i was voting for Mccain because of women’s rights. Some pre menopausal Obamabot somehow spun it out of my being a former Hillary delegate. When it comes to women I believe that both candidates have done their share of being sexist. My opinion on that will not change.
Posted by: Barracuda | October 3, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
Clabs: “Well Baracuda, if you like McCain, go vote for him. ”
Thanks I will (not that I needed your permission to in the first place)
Posted by: Barracuda | October 3, 2008, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm
“There’s something going on in Alaska where, you know, we get calls in our office all the time from national media outlets and international media outlets just wondering what’s going on in Alaska. And I think there’s something going on here with where you all are going as Master’s Commission students and now graduates and what’s going on in the state of Alaska.”
– Sarah Palin, June 8, 2008
Posted by: Girl Power | October 3, 2008, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm
“There’s been so many words, Ed, over the state of Alaska, we being the head and not the tail, and, um, I see things now in the works it seems like, things like, that’s coming to fruition. Things are perculating! Things are coming along, and just, you know, uh, praying for an outpouring of God’s spirit here, that revival to be here in Alaska.”
– Sarah Palin, June 8, 2008
Posted by: Girl Power | October 3, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
“You know there are – there are man’s activities that can be contributed to the issues that we’re dealing with now, these impacts. I’m not going to solely blame all of man’s activities on changes in climate.”
- Sarah Palin, September 29, 2008
Posted by: Girl Power | October 3, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm
“When it comes to women I believe that both candidates have done their share of being sexist. My opinion on that will not change.”
Baracuda, it was you who claimed Obama was a sexist and McCain not.
Posted by: CLabs | October 3, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm
Katie Couric: What other Supreme Court decisions do you disagree with?
Sarah Palin: Mmmmm…
[Pause]
Well, let’s see. There’s…
[Pause, deep sigh]
Of course in the great history of America there have been rulings, that, um, there’s never going to be absolute consensus by every American, and there are those issues, again, like Roe v. Wade, where I believe are best held on a state level and addressed there. So, you know, going through the history of America, there would be others but …
[Pause]
Couric: Can you think of any?
Palin: Well, I could think of, of, any again, that could be best dealt with on a more local level, maybe I would take issue with? But, you know, um, as, as a mayor, and then as a governor and even as a vice president, if I’m so privileged to serve, wouldn’t be in a position of changing those things but in supporting the law of the land as, as it reads today.
- Palin / Couric, September, 2008
Posted by: Girl Power | October 3, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm
There is the weatherman telling us Obama is responsible for the sun shining today.
Posted by: Barracuda | October 3, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm
Stop it Girl Power. Your posts do nothing but freak me out. :)
Posted by: Sandra | October 3, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
“Girl Power”
Wow that really is a handle that is a step up for WOMEN.
Snaps to you.
Posted by: Barracuda | October 3, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
“I had learned not to care. I blew a few smoke rings, remembering those years. Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it. Not smack, though. …” — Barack Obama
Posted by: Barracuda | October 3, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm
“What I want to argue about is how are we going to get there to positively affect the impacts we have got to clean up this planet.”
– Sarah Palin, October 2, 2008
Posted by: Girl Power | October 3, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm
“Well let me be absolutely clear. Israel is a strong friend of Israel’s.”
- Barack Obama
Posted by: Barracuda | October 3, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
Katie Couric: When it comes to establishing your worldview, I was curious, what newspapers and magazines did you regularly read before you were tapped for this to stay informed and to understand the world?
Sarah Palin: I’ve read most of them, again with a great appreciation for the press, for the media.
Couric: What, specifically?
Palin: Um, all of them.
September 29, 2008
Posted by: Girl Power | October 3, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm
It sure seems to me that women that find themselves into Palin are rather like her.
Posted by: Sandra | October 3, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm
“It sure seems to me that women that find themselves into Palin are rather like her.”
Yes indeed, poor losers. Can’t win a discussion and then turns nasty, playing the victim.
Posted by: CLabs | October 3, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm
I agree Sandra and the women that are for Obama, are rather like him. Empty.
Posted by: Barracuda | October 3, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm
“I agree Sandra and the women that are for Obama, are rather like him. Empty.”
Pathetic…
Posted by: CLabs | October 3, 2008, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm
I was referring to the B factor Barracuda. We all tend to like people that are like ourselves. I’ll take that as a compliment. I think unlike the other two bottom feeds Obama has an IQ. Then we could discuss the fact that anymore republicans are just mean people. I’m a centrist. And I’m mostly voting against the new big trend of “hating” on fellow citizens.
Posted by: Sandra | October 3, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm
“Sarah Palin has the smarts, the passion, and the courage to do the job.”
My 19 year old daughter
Posted by: Barracuda | October 3, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm
“fierce” oopsie gee golly shucks
Posted by: Sandra | October 3, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
“Sarah Palin has the smarts, the passion, and the courage to do the job.”
Pork queen Palin left Wasilla in debt – $21 million.
Posted by: CLabs | October 3, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm
Amen to Rep. Boehner. He is understating the case so as not to scare people. It is going to be a very bad winter no matter who wins the election, we are rearranging the deck chairs at this point. GM announced today it will not be advertising during the Super Bowl. Read the handwriting on the wall, people.
Posted by: newyorkguy | October 4, 2008, 12:01 am 12:01 am
TAX VOTE: Biden said McCain voted “the exact same way” as Obama to increase taxes on Americans earning just $42,000, but McCain DID NOT VOTE THAT WAY.
2. AHMEDINIJAD MEETING: Joe Biden lied when he said that Barack Obama never said that he would sit down unconditionally with Mahmoud Ahmedinijad of Iran. Barack Obama did say specifically, and Joe Biden attacked him for it.
3. OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING: Biden said, “Drill we must.” But Biden has opposed offshore drilling and even compared offshore drilling to “raping” the Outer Continental Shelf.”
4. TROOP FUNDING: Joe Biden lied when he indicated that John McCain and Barack Obama voted the same way against funding the troops in the field. John McCain opposed a bill that included a timeline, that the President of the United States had already said he would veto regardless of it’s passage.
5. OPPOSING CLEAN COAL: Biden says he’s always been for clean coal, but he just told a voter that he is against clean coal and any new coal plants in America and has a record of voting against clean coal and coal in the U.S. Senate.
6. ALERNATIVE ENERGY VOTES: According to FactCheck.org, Biden is exaggerating and overstating John McCain’s record voting for alternative energy when he says he voted against it 23 times.
7. HEALTH INSURANCE: Biden falsely said McCain will raise taxes on people’s health insurance coverage — they get a tax credit to offset any tax hike. Independent fact checkers have confirmed this attack is false
8. OIL TAXES: Biden falsely said Palin supported a windfall profits tax in Alaska — she reformed the state tax and revenue system, it’s not a windfall profits tax.
9. AFGHANISTAN / GEN. MCKIERNAN COMMENTS: Biden said that top military commander in Iraq said the principles of the surge could not be applied to Afghanistan, but the commander of NATO’s International Security Assistance Force Gen. David D. McKiernan said that there were principles of the surge strategy, including working with tribes, that could be applied in Afghanistan.
10. REGULATION: Biden falsely said McCain weakened regulation — he actually called for more regulation on Fannie and Freddie.
11. IRAQ: When Joe Biden lied when he said that John McCain was “dead wrong on Iraq”, because Joe Biden shared the same vote to authorize the war and differed on the surge strategy where they John McCain has been proven right.
12. TAX INCREASES : Biden said Americans earning less than $250,000 wouldn’t see higher taxes, but the Obama-Biden tax plan would raise taxes on individuals making $200,000 or more.
13. BAILOUT: Biden said the economic rescue legislation matches the four principles that Obama laid out, but in reality it doesn’t meet two of the four principles that Obama outlined on Sept. 19, which were that it include an emergency economic stimulus package, and that it be part of “part of a globally coordinated effort with our partners in the G-20.”
14. REAGAN TAX RATES: Biden is wrong in saying that under Obama, Americans won’t pay any more in taxes then they did under Reagan.
Well, at least we think he told the truth when he said his name was “Joe Biden.
Posted by: Barracuda | October 4, 2008, 12:14 am 12:14 am
Typical of what I’m referring to. Begin the mean mantra and then try to turn it and play innocent. Exactly like Sarah. “I agree Sandra and the women that are for Obama, are rather like him. Empty.”
Posted by: Sandra | October 4, 2008, 12:15 am 12:15 am
Sandra, Actually all I’ve heard since Obama stole the nomination is the Democrat supporters spewing garbage. Just like most of the blogs, garbage everywhere from the Dems. Obama is empty just like his past experience. Come to the South Side and check out the neighborhoods he’s organized for improvements. Same people still living squalor, maybe just free of some asbestos. Lies everywhere!
Posted by: The OD | October 4, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am
I think both Biden and Palin are good people. I can’t say that about Obama however and although I would trust McCain Palin or Biden as President I wouldn’t trust Obama as a dogcatcher much less as President.
Posted by: Barracuda | October 4, 2008, 12:27 am 12:27 am
oops sorry
” “- Puma
Posted by: Barracuda | October 4, 2008, 12:31 am 12:31 am
Actually Mara it is from Puma, the confluence. something you would know nothing about.
Posted by: Barracuda | October 4, 2008, 12:34 am 12:34 am
Yeah it was Mara. You think I typed the list myself? Guess you did not like the info I posted.
Posted by: Barracuda | October 4, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am
No dear, I looked. It is lifted word for word from Michelle Malkin. Word for word. Not a good idea. Pretty much associates everything else you’ve said with the dreadful Michelle. Good luck with your next identity.
Posted by: mara | October 4, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am
Mara I have not been to Malkins site. But thanks for the tips
Posted by: Barracuda | October 4, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am
Before the war, Al-queda was not present in Iraq. It’s after the war started things got messy.
So if there is someone that we shouldn’t trust it’s McCain, the whole Iraq war was a mistake and a big lie to the people.
Posted by: CLabs | October 4, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am
She would probably use a citation or reference if she was writing a book or an article but what does it matter it’s a bunch of lies that were said last night.
Posted by: The OD | October 4, 2008, 12:40 am 12:40 am
O yeah, give me a break..
Someone who claimed to worked for Kerry copying info from a Neocon website.
This must be a joke…. The same NeoCon figures attacked Kerry with lies and deceits, remember the Swift boat stunt they pulled.
Posted by: CLabs | October 4, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am
I don’t have an opinion on the information, dear – but if you are going to lift it off another website, it’s good to give credit where credit is due. It also casts an awful lot of doubt on the way you’ve pressented yourself tonight… let’s see… you’re a big Hillary supporter, but you just love Sarah Palin and can’t bring yourself to vote for Obama… you’ve worked in politics, including several Demcratic campaigns – but somehow your information and Michelle Malkin”s post are identical – and you just forgot to say so. I think people should support whomever they choose – and there are certainly reasons why some people are Republicans and why they support McCain – but honey – you have no credibility. But no worries – you can come back under another name. You’ll be easy to recognize.
Posted by: mara | October 4, 2008, 12:47 am 12:47 am
You just lost whatever trace of credibility you might have had left. You’ve worked in politics and you’ve never heard of Michelle Malkin? You post a list and pretend it’s your’s? You’re a Hillary supporters who reads and parrots crazy neocons? Nope. That dog won’t hunt.
Posted by: mara | October 4, 2008, 12:49 am 12:49 am
You know Mara, thanks for giving me an idea. I can use this site to direct women to PUMA. Never would have thought about that without you since I had to post the website.
Yes me, Hillary supporter from Virgina.
I post regularly on the Confluence. Did not know about Malkin. Thanks.
Posted by: Barracuda | October 4, 2008, 12:50 am 12:50 am
Democracy is in a Recession:
“In an apparent violation of federal regulations, the State Department has outsourced to private contractors the responsibility to investigate possible crimes committed by security contractors in Iraq.
Earlier this year, the State Department’s Bureau of Diplomatic Security hired the private firm U.S. Investigations Services (USIS) to fill positions in the newly created Force Investigation Unit (FIU) that investigates potential misuses of force against civilians by U.S. security contractors.
Posted by: jeru | October 4, 2008, 12:50 am 12:50 am
Facts such as the 14 lies that are out there for public knowledge from multiple sources and they not under a copyright law. Go back to school..
Posted by: The OD | October 4, 2008, 12:51 am 12:51 am
Palin is the GOP’s last hope although she is hopeless. McCain pulled out of Michigan and is on the verge of pulling out of PA. Florida is turning BLUE.
Troopergate is going to cease the spotlight in a few days.The only card in the deck for the GOP to play is Cheat Baby Cheat. Obama know has to win by a huge margin and he will. When one of his ardent critics, Charles Krauthammer of the Washington Post starts to clean up his smear opinion column, we know what time it is; OBAMA TIME!
Posted by: clarity | October 4, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am
“Both Sarah and Joe made the points they wanted to make.
Unfortunately for Joe, his points were not particularly convincing. As I’ve said time and again, Barack Obama’s main problem is that he has ceded far too many points to the Republicans. Thus, Biden was stuck defending Obama’s stupid non-positions, like “The surge worked, but I wouldn’t have voted for it anyway.” On gay rights, Biden made it sound as if the Democratic platform is the same as the Republican platform, when in fact, the O’Biden ticket believes in granting civil unions the same rights as marriage. On offshore drilling, Biden also agreed with Palin, practically chanting “Drill, baby, drill” right along with her.
Joe Biden was also determined to follow the Obama line of attack – that McPalin is Bush. Unfortunately, that attack has not been effective – otherwise, Obama would be 25 points ahead, since Republicans, Democrats, Independents and Rosicrucians all agree that Bush is a horrible President. But Americans don’t like Congresscritters either, and Biden is one, as are McCain and Obama.”
Former Hillary Supporter? Are you a Democrat that think Obama is a stinking corpse? Then come to:
PUMA- THE Confluence.
Posted by: Barracuda | October 4, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am
I have read the Charles Krauthammer piece. He is no fan of Obama, however McCain/Palin would be a disaster for this country.
Couldn’t agree more!
Posted by: CLabs | October 4, 2008, 1:05 am 1:05 am
“Why can’t Obama win his voters by himself? Isn’t that his job now? If the party was going to rely on and blame Hillary for Obama’s fate, why not put her on the ticket? Right now, she has a thankless job. Not only does she have to work overtime to see him win, but she gets no credit for it or her own work. Her suggestions for the bailout bill were casually brushed aside by Obama and Reid. Is that the way you’re supposed to treat you most faithful party member?
Obama has a lot to learn from the Clintons about what it takes to truly inspire voters. He has a lot to learn about how to lose the arrogance and be gracious. He has a lot to learn when it comes to not insulting voters. He has to learn to be enthusiastic and engaging and concise like Sarah Palin, who looked last night like she didn’t need help from anybody.”
Former Hillary Supporter? Are you a Democrat that think Obama is a man child? Then come to:
PUMA- THE Confluence.
ITS WHERE THE SMART WOMEN ARE
Posted by: Barracuda | October 4, 2008, 1:07 am 1:07 am
Palin suggested that Biden & Obama were waving the ‘white flag of surrender’..McCain speaks of ‘victory’ in Iraq….
it was Bin laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri who attacked, then planned to draw America into the mid east, they knew they could never win a military victory against America, but, they’ve won by using the predictable reactions and stupidity of Bush & Cheney to bankrupt the country.
Bin Laden is still free and laughing, and don’t bet that he’s ‘in a cave’.
Over a trillion dollars are suddenly available to bailout selected companies, 25 billion for the car companies, 170 million for pork in the bailout bill and who knows how much is still needed.
But…they said all along that there’s no money for social security, health care, infrastructure, new green technologies research…
forget PUMA, Democrats, Republicans whatever, ……whatever America was it’s now gone.
Posted by: Jazzman | October 4, 2008, 1:09 am 1:09 am
“Obama has every advantage to win this race with all of the training wheels, spotters, helmet, knee and elbow padding and a running push. The amount of support for a presidential candidate is unprecedented. Never before has so much been done for so long for so little. So, why is the race still more or less a statistical tie? Maybe because he is the weakest candidate the Democrats could have selected…”
Former Hillary Supporter? Are you a Democrat that thinks Barack Obama is a stinking corpse? Then come to:
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Posted by: Barracuda | October 4, 2008, 1:12 am 1:12 am
barracuda:
not that it really matters anymore but you said “So, why is the race still more or less a statistical tie? “…. have you checked out the electoral map lately….. looks like Obama will win with a pretty big lead…..
Posted by: Jazzman | October 4, 2008, 1:15 am 1:15 am
“Why can’t Obama win voters by himself?”
“Because he has never had to. Hillary won the majority of the Democratic voters in the primary, but the nomination was handed to Obama. This is the general election and Obama is not going to get pushed to the front of the class because he’s so “kewl”. This time he has to earn the respect of voters who rejected him in the primary as well as voters who are wondering if he is prepared to lead this country. Clearly, he is not prepared.”
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Posted by: Barracuda | October 4, 2008, 1:18 am 1:18 am
One congressmans voted last week no and now yest, because a racingtrack profid bill was attached tot the bailout. I want to crunch this guy, he is a freman stealing while on the job. We first need trancpanacy and accountablilyty for the lawmakers before we get the finacial guys.
Posted by: ab | October 4, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am
John Boehner is a cry baby. I can only imagine what a basket case he is behind closed doors. This is the third time I’ve seen him cry in the past two years and it’s all over dumb stuff.
Posted by: Wwaahhh | October 4, 2008, 2:16 am 2:16 am
“It’s an identity thing, and they’ll never vote Republican. They don’t get that I am dedicated to cleaning UP my own party….and that voting Obama is the worst thing for the Democratic Party’s future. They all buy into the fear-mongering that we won’t “survive” another 4 years of Republican rule.”
ARE YOU A FORMER HILLARY SUPPORTER?
DO YOU THINK THAT BARACK OBAMA IS THE WEAKEST CANDIDATE THAT THE DNC HAS EVER PUT ON THE TICKET SINCE CARTER?
ARE YOU A DEMOCRAT WHO IS TRIED OF BARNEY FRANK AND NANCY PELOSI? DO YOU FEEL THAT THE DNC IS NOW A JOKE?
Come to PUMA- The Confluence
WHERE THE SMART WOMEN HANG OUT.
Posted by: Barracuda | October 4, 2008, 2:36 am 2:36 am
How do you pronounce his name? “Beener”? “Bayner?” or “Boner?”
Posted by: JLL | October 4, 2008, 5:30 am 5:30 am
You’re really stupid if you think another four years of Bush policies are preferable to a man (Barack Obama) who will clean up the mess that the last eight years has made. You’re really stupid.
Posted by: JLL | October 4, 2008, 5:34 am 5:34 am
Vanessa,
Is it really you that posted that lewd comment or someone used your name to post.
It doesn’t sound like you.
Posted by: Dare Nigeria | October 4, 2008, 7:46 am 7:46 am
Vannessa, as a person of mixed race and a Democrat, and an unapologetic supporter of Barack Obama as I was of Bill Clinton, Al Gore, and John Kerry, I find it very insulting that you would suggest that the only reason you support Barack is because of the size of his private. You are obviously a Republican hack trying to generate racial tensions but most Americans, regardless of the color of their skin are more interested in the issues, not innuendos. The credit crunch and the economic disaster the Republicans have put us in is foremost on their minds and not distractions intended to create division.
Posted by: Mavis | October 4, 2008, 7:49 am 7:49 am
Battleground States Obama McCain Spread
Colorado 49.0 44.6 Obama +4.4
Ohio 48.0 46.0 Obama +2.0
Florida 48.6 45.6 Obama +3.0
Pennsylvania 49.9 42.0 Obama +7.9
Missouri 46.8 48.5 McCain +1.7
Virginia 49.0 46.6 Obama +2.4
Posted by: Andrew | October 4, 2008, 8:03 am 8:03 am
With the right People at the helm of affairs, the economy will bounce back again.
I just hope that the right Candidates win this election. If not, 1929 great depression will look like a child’s play.
Posted by: Dare Nigeria | October 4, 2008, 8:17 am 8:17 am
To Robert and all the “GOP First, Country Last” posters: perhaps Boehner can give McCain a call and let him know that for everyone except those with 10 houses and 13 cars, the economy is in trouble.
Posted by: American Patriot | October 4, 2008, 8:22 am 8:22 am
“Barracuda,” the fact that you would choose that name as your sign-in just shows you’re a Palin hack trying to fool women into voting for your ticket because of plumbing rather than the issues. Nice try you “GOP First, Country Last” hack.
Posted by: American Patriot | October 4, 2008, 8:24 am 8:24 am
I hope all the Obama supporters donate all they can and canvass and call!
The world is greatful for all your work and looks forward to you nation being the great nation again it used to be!
8 bad years please dont give the world for more!
Republicans have ruined your reputation around the globe and strained strong friendships your nation has held!
We will always be friends with the American people down under but Im hoping you vote in the smart guy this time!
An Australian for Obama wishing all Obama supporters the best of luck and health!
Peace!
Posted by: Aussie Friend! | October 4, 2008, 8:24 am 8:24 am
Sorry for the spelling mistakes its late night tomorrow here!
Posted by: Aussie Friend! | October 4, 2008, 8:27 am 8:27 am
‘Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies.’ Thomas Jefferson – I think this says it all. Now let’s vote all of these clowns out of office
Posted by: Mark Anthony | October 4, 2008, 9:21 am 9:21 am
For those who will cast their votes because of Pro-Life issues. This is the way I see it…..
McCain/Palin = Pro-Life. After you are born, you are totally on your own. If you are not rich, then you are in deep trouble. No house to live in, no food, no job, and no medical insurance.
Obama/Biden = Pro-Choice. They will do everything they can to help the middle class and the poor, so they can afford a baby. They will be provided help for a house, food, a job, and affordable medical insurance. God will inspire them to make the right decision.
Posted by: Monique | October 4, 2008, 9:34 am 9:34 am
Was that a republican???????
Wow…..
There is hope in America
Posted by: Omentum | October 4, 2008, 9:40 am 9:40 am
Biden 2006 Income – $248,459 Charity – $380
Palin 2006 Income – $128,005 Charity – $4880
Biden 2007 Income – $319,853 Charity – $995
Palin 2007 Income – $166,495 Charity – $3325
Hmmm.
I realize that many people can’t or don’t give monetary donations. Instead they give “charity” by volunteering and doing community service but I find these numbers very interesting.
Here’s Biden’s track record of giving. Sad.
Year Income Charity
1998 $215,432 $195
1999 $210,797 $120
2000 $219,953 $360
2001 $220,712 $360
2002 $227,811 $260
2003 $231,375 $260
2004 $234,271 $380 (2004 Tsunami)
2005 $321,379 $380 (2005 Katrina)
Even my daughter, who was 10 yrs old, saved her allowance and sent $150 to Tsumami victims, (I matched her with $150).
… my point is that the Obama/Biden ticket claim to care so much for the poor etc. but it seems to me that they only want to spend someone else’s money to help them. OURS!
Posted by: HP Boston | October 4, 2008, 9:42 am 9:42 am
Thanks, I’m pro-life and somehow, on my little own, I have food and a house.
The real question is, do you want someone who doesn’t know when life begins to seize control of your healthcare? Thanks, I’d rather go it alone.
Posted by: Ron | October 4, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am
So many McCain DEM’S it is time to put country first and vote for AMERICA!
NO vote for SLICK RICK THE POVERTY PIMP!
NOBAMA! NEVER VOTE OBAMA!
Posted by: HP Boston | October 4, 2008, 9:46 am 9:46 am
ARE YOU A DEMOCRAT WHO IS TRIED OF BARNEY FRANK AND NANCY PELOSI? DO YOU FEEL THAT THE DNC IS NOW A JOKE?
Come to PUMA- The Confluence
WHERE THE SMART WOMEN HANG OUT.
Posted by: Barracuda | Oct 4, 2008 2:36:38 AM
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YOU GO SISTA!!! The new Murphy’s law,
AMERICA WILL ROAR!
WE ARE THE ONES NO ONE WAS EXPECTING!!!!e
Posted by: HP Boston | October 4, 2008, 9:54 am 9:54 am
“I had learned not to care. I blew a few smoke rings, remembering those years. Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it. Not smack, though. …” — Barack Obama
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YOU ARE WAY OVER YOUR PAY GRADE SENATOR!!
Posted by: HP Boston | October 4, 2008, 10:05 am 10:05 am
We have BEEN in a recession since the 4th quarter of LAST year… Where has he been? Are these politicans completely removed from reality or WHAT!!!
Posted by: hmn | October 4, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am
Don’t any of you realize, it doesn’t matter who gets elected; the President hasn’t run this country in DECADES?!!! The New World Order has, and will continue to run “Wall Street,” The White House,”etc…, until He comes back. You think it’s bad now, just wait until after the election, or perhaps shortly before. We’re in for a WHOLE LOTTA HURTIN!
Posted by: Nancy | October 4, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am
Obama is the New World Order’s Golden Boy. he will follow their lead in his quest for power. He has associated with some pretty shady dudes on his rise to the top… criminal types. I guess that may not matter to some people who are rabid Obama fans… they are wearing their blinders.
Posted by: Fran | October 4, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am
America is not a third world country. We may have pockets of poverty, but no other country can compare to our means, even in a recession. Immigrants who came to this country were the back bone of the industrial era. they were poor, but honest, hard working people. People in our country want more entitlements… that is what Obama/Biden offer. They don’t want to bring people out of their poverty, just make more people comfortable in it.
Posted by: Fran | October 4, 2008, 11:17 am 11:17 am
I admire you John Boehner for two things: honesty and integrity.
Your recognition of God having to be the sole help in this “mess” is commendable.
I hope anybody working in the government or in any office for that matter will have to turn to God first and foremost when making decisions and not only when things go wrong.
I encourage all politicians, whether Republicans or Democrats; all voters, “seek first the kingdom of God…” and everthing will come to place accordingly.
Recession? Yes, recession of true values….
Have a good weekend everyone!
Posted by: manolmontana | October 4, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
God is in charge, Mr. Boehner? Not any more. You have created an economic dictatorship with socialized capital markets. You have put the devil in charge. You are either a liar or a fool and if you go running to God it should only be for mercy.
Posted by: MIchal | October 4, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
For those who will cast their votes because of Pro-Life issues. This is the way I see it…..
McCain/Palin = Pro-Life. After you are born, you are totally on your own. If you are not rich, then you are in deep trouble. No house to live in, no food, no job, and no medical insurance.
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ya know “monique” ,either you simply spew the PARTY LINE or you’re THE one and the same moron that always posts this scatology under different names.
your post is simply too stupid to reply to and only further illustrates the sheer lunacy and brainwashing of the left’s following.
Posted by: salome | October 4, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
WoW. Clinton left our economy with a $230 billion surplus… under a democratic policy both Bill, Hillary, Obama, and other democrats share.
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yeah………wowie–cooked books and bubbles that burst.
then 911 but of course the klittonistaHs cannot take this into account,bubba left a surplus…bubba left a surplus.
yeah,based on total bs,a .com economy.
Posted by: malakkasincLLC | October 4, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
Now we have the Rep. saying that this is only the beginning. Meaning the 700 Billion bailout. So there ah more ah commin. I dont know whats all the comotion about. The ecomie is so deep water there. I mean I keep hearing that in New York that they pay 1000 of them there dollars of an Ice ah cream and 400 million of them there dollars for tax breaks for Rum, and they call me stupid.
Posted by: 23e45 | October 6, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am
Uh I think that there Palin girl is what
we need in the whitehouse. Just think how
she would do if she were ah ah talkin with old Putin there about Georgia or any of the other world leaders. She so skilled with them there words shes ah using. I bet she would wink and and say
Hey there Joe say it ant so, then she wink and all would be alright. Who needs to anwser one of them there stupid questions, like ie.. Whats your name or what state is Washinton D.C. is in. She is exactly what we need in the big house. I bet she really knows how to whoop up one good cookin with them there Moose burgers. I always ah wonder why the Rep. have so much money for wars and other stuid things like the brick wall they want us to support but ah they don’t have the money for healthcare or edumacation_ Yes siree Bob… Hushpuppy
Posted by: 23e45 | October 6, 2008, 1:11 am 1:11 am
I think that they should take old McCain and make that there Palin Gal the President and old J. McCain the vice President. Now thats what I ah call a good ticket… Hushpuppy
Posted by: 23e45 | October 6, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am